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Episode 127  Leveraging the Power of Your Network, with Jon Talarico

The Entrepreneurial You

29:28 min | 1 year ago

Episode 127 Leveraging the Power of Your Network, with Jon Talarico

"<music> hey is jolly dumez of of edo fire and the entrepreneurial you this show for dedicated and passionate caribbean entrepreneur seeking daily inspiration brought to you by author speaker in award winning entrepreneur hencke watkiss porter. You must be prepared to ignite <music> the currency a real networking is not greeted but generosity keith causey greetings my peak performance. How are you doing today. I just that you're having a great day. Welcome to episode one one hundred and twenty seven of the entrepreneurial you podcast hanukkah walk sporto. Today's episode is with john. Tulloch rico janis among the world's foremost experts on building relationships that yield amazing results for his clients. John has worked directly with some of today's today's most powerful and influential business and thought leaders celebrities and more importantly people just like yourself looking for a way to connect next and create a life of your dream. I'm looking forward to this conversation on leveraging the power of units work with with john. It's how to recall welcome john. Thank you so excited to be here. Welcome jamaica and yeah really excited for this our own <hes> and what's your favorite thing about jamaica. I met you ran your jamaica. Yes saw me. I spoke with the legendary less brown yemen yeah so <hes> the people of jamaica i think is my favorite thing. Just the kind hearted spirit always striving to to be the best that they could be <hes> just a warm wonderful country country and i love it. I love the people all right so i'm happy that you had a great time. We had a great time welcoming. You here and them really have happy that. You're on this podcast with me so we're gonna just go right into having this conversation leveraging the power of your network because your story is pretty much one that depicts that power and home which we can never get to win in our everyday lives note tennis about your journey sure he could well. I i actually grew up in michigan. I'll give you the short version kind of <hes> blue collar town. <hes> mama's on food stamps welfare. They got divorced when i was seven so that was at the time kind of went. Divorce wasn't really opulent back then yeah exactly so y'all by seven. I was kind of embarrassed of of my upbringing <unk> by age twelve. I started <hes> drinking around age nine for about two years. I <hes> had some really horrific. Things happen to me by a woman who was entrusted to take care of me the and that she did not do in all. I'd like to speak to people who have been through some hardships. I know a lot of people have gone through some things and so i understand that and <hes> fast forward a a bit you know i realized later on in life that headed when i hit rock bottom round two thousand nine was working for one of the top internet marketing guys and the thought of had the dream job and realized that it was not all it seems so i actually ended up living out of a motel my wife and two dogs kind of homeless we it didn't have a job. We're broke and that's when it kinda hit me that you know i wasn't going to go out like this. My life wasn't going to be defined by this and started ready to take an inventory of what i had and while a lot of times we think we don't have things we have some most important assets life which are our relationships family and friends friends and work so from that is <hes> where we're at today and i've been able to <hes> build some amazing relationships and leverage those contacts all over the world been able to travel traveled thirty six countries five continents last few years and just met some amazing amazing people and helped a lot of people are realized that they can live the life of their dreams so you've you've had a not so glorious life right <hes> in the beginning and in the beginning and you mentioned that's that's a while ago. You know you could have been very bitter right. You could've taken that sense and being very bitter and disowned the the world owes you everything but you just said something that is absolutely absolutely very profound john and that we think sometimes we think we don't have but what we have is so much more and so you talk the boat you alluded to relationships and i want you to exit owned a little bit more on the power of relationship when i was at my lowest points i i saw quote one day. I was going to starbucks every single day. You know sets up their office sarah. I'm seeing the same people every day will see you. Tomorrow and i'm walking can home one day. I saw this quote from marcus aurelius. It said <hes> the thing progress <hes> what stands in the way becomes the way and i that hit me like a ton on a bricks. I'm like well. I have become the problem in my own way. I've blaming people angry becoming the victim and i realized that that moment that my life was not going to be defined by this so i took an inventory of what i had in my life and which was i made a list of all the relationships that i had family friends work associates. It's college people and that's when i started to realize that by reaching out to my relationships existing ones <unk>. Let's like an inventory like you have. If you have a business these are very valuable things that people want to help each other. You know at the end of the day. Everybody just wants a better life in you find at the core. Most people want to just help other. People gives them great satisfaction for me. I love helping people so it's also important to be able to ask for help when you when you're down and out so many people these days they don't speak up we have to deal with bullying and and people have gone through some horrific things and it's important you you find your voice and have the courage and the confidence to tit least speak up even if it's to one person and so then i started speaking up to my network my relationships and by taking action sometimes we don't know what the next step should be in so we don't do anything we get paralyzed boy there'd be fear of i doubt by negatively by by blaming by being a victim but once you take take that first step and maybe you don't realize what it's your where you're headed but at least you do something and you reach out to your network you reach out to these relationships and say hey. This is what i'm doing and this is what i wanted to. Maybe <hes> is there anything you can do to help me the universe they reward people who take action and so when that started to happen it was amazing what started to unfold in my life. I started getting phone calls from people say. Can you do this for me and that's really where my life took off is when i actually reached out to my network <hes> and actually the let me back up. The most important thing is when you're reaching out to people's is to offer value. I saw a lot of time to those places of desperation where where we really think <unk> but you don't understand. I need to pay the bills next month and if if i'm volunteering or giving away my time or or my my thoughts mightiest for free that's not got pay my bills but what happens. Is something very amazing that i've seen it over and over again in my life a lot of my friends lifeline my clients is that when you give without expecting anything in return without having an agenda the universe god whatever you wanna call it rewards you and you will be amazed at what happens in your life and things that you start to manifest. Well okay so you've said that. A lot of nuggets right there like a lotta powerful nuggets at the core is that some of the things that you said like core people want to help others right and genuinely believe that people are genuinely nice people at the core until whatever recipes triggers something else right. Another important thing you talked about was asking for help a lot of us. We need to get to the next level. Whatever that is but we are afraid or you know too prideful in your ego gets in the way eh of asking for help right the court that you also mentioned ease what stands in the way becomes the way right all right. You're just so many nice things that you've said right there that we could see this conversation. No different direction talk about so many other things but i'm going to try and bring bring it back you know just and focus on because you said something <hes> also importantly give without expecting anything in return turn or <hes> so we know and let me preface it holds all you do that when everybody right no john seemingly also parasitic for a city. It's all about like you know i am. I am in a situation where i know. Purses are held some personal to help me because of a particular my putting cygnus standing and it's not a genuinely please of wanting to and to help yes. We know that when we give it will come right back to us right and any not come from the person's we have given to but it comes right back so there is no need to be policy but how can you know <hes> prevent yourself from on should be that parasites and even becoming parasites. Yes well of all the time in a lot of my clients. A lot of my friends are very famous celebrities celebrities and athletes and actors and all that in so i approached a lot because <hes> and it's always most of the time with ill intentions because they haven't agenda so the first i the first thing that you need to do is you need to have clarity and and really you have to have <hes>. I like to say the word act. First thing is awareness in clarity clarity. You need to be aware and clear about what it is. You want for your life. Then you start to look at the relationships around you in your life and say okay who would best help me be able to get to michael then. I want you to set that aside for a minute and see okay. These are the key people that that might be able to help me get where i want to get but what is important to for them. What kind of things could i do to be value. You have to let go of any expectation of anything that results because maybe that's not how you're going to get to where you wanna go but by being of service certain things will happen. Certain people will come into your life and i i know this because i've tried it both ways and i did it the the kind of hustling way and it doesn't work because your intentions are pure in the universe god. Whatever you wanna call it does not reward those things that are not authentic so i've tried the other way. It doesn't work now when i do it. Did it the way you discussed while i gave value i and without expecting anything in return. I'll give you a great example in how i ended up been in bob proctor ladino him from secret one of the for me the greatest teacher around. I wanted to build a relationship with bob because i loved his teaching followed his work for years and i started going to some of his <unk> seminars. I started paying attention to what was important to bob well. He loves the song. It's gonna be a bright bright sunshiny day. Johnny nash and i actually hunted him down. He's a reclusive clues that was kind of his one hit and he doesn't do public appearances but i hunted him down in texas and took me six months got him to agree to autograph album for bob proctor offers eightieth birthday. Now bob didn't know me yet but i had that album sent back to me and i made it very easy for them. Include the postage the marker the letter everything was done and i had a friend at one of seminars. I dropped it off at the front desk and from that that was about four years ago i now a few months ago ended up at bob's house where he was given me a testimonial for my course now when i gave him that sure i would love a relationship with bob and his inner circle and all that but i was okay at that did not happen because has i generally wanted to do something that would touch person's life and so when you think of something unique that something you know a lot of the people that we want to connect with what are all. We already very wealthy. They're already very famous. So how can you be different. How can you be genuine. Where you want to do something for that person and then you let go let go of any expectations because then that's not pure giving that's an agenda and that never works so anything to your listeners. It's find out something that means a lot to to the people you wanna work with and then do something kind you don't you don't wanna by people but you know you can do things that touch people's lives lives for for next to nothing and when you start to give an have gratitude every day then people the right people will start to come into your life the right situation situation so right circumstances will be created for you and you will be amazed at how quickly on your path to the life of your dreams and even having this conversation they become dot com. I personally become very annoyed. I know persons wanted to connect with me simply because of my network i mean i understand that after time you'd be relationships and these these things happen by default right so no needs to try and get with me simply because i i don't like that and i don't think we should practice that so i. I'm glad you're you're you're right here with me talking about leveraging to power network and how to do it without you know becoming <hes> seemingly just opportunistic opportunistic great for that relationship that it's it's all about you know you're investing in people we know we all want something because everybody's tune into what <hes> w i i wasn't for me right and what is into that radio station apparently but at the same time at the same time when you're able to add value oh you know think about giving value i and things will will come and don't necessarily know because he want to always extract but just give and and it will come right but see because god indeed authenticity and i love that you're you know you're talking about that. No ho do you find opportunities quickly. You talked but when you look at your life and you made a list of all you know all your relationships and so on and go from there. How do you find those opportunities. Where do we even look for them right. The first thing we have to do in the first place we have to look is instead looking outside. We need to look inside because so many of us think that we know what we want and i'm sure a lot of your listeners are most of them are all entrepreneurs and everyone loves the book thinking grow rich but if you ask most people if they've read that book you'll see all the hands chance go up ninety nine percent people. I'm sure ninety nine percent of your listeners will say yes. That's an amazing book but then you ask how many people actually do the six steps that he talks about guarantee to prove a life of riches and that is a clearly defined goal with a set timeframe and you read it to yourself a morning tonight and you'll see maybe one or two hands up so we have to look at be able to look in the mirror took me a long time to be able to look myself in here because <hes> i just you you know a lot of us have been through some things and we allow that to consume us and like you said earlier. The ego goes words comfortable. It doesn't want you to step out and change people's lives. It doesn't want you you to change your life because it's safe and comfortable where it's at and that we're that is usually negatively or a life of regret or doubt or victimhood or fear and so by looking inside and saying okay look. This is my goal. This is what i really want. Bob proctor talks out about your sea level. Goal which is something completely out of the realm of what you think is possible but it is definitely attainable so you get clear on your goal. Then you start 'til reverse engineer who can help you. Who in your network can can help you and if you don't how the network i i talk a lot about some call to people remove where i really believe this. I've done it and shown people that i can get to anybody in the world through one or two of my connection so you start to look at. Maybe a great site is lincoln. Let's see who <unk> who connected to the person you want to get to and if you don't have the relationship in if they don't have the relationship maybe that they have a relationship to someone else that can help you so you kind of reverse engineer your network and who you need to get to then you got to do research sneak. A lot of people are just they're just. They don't put in the time they complain. They spend a lot of time with social media and they say the the very busy but then you need to do you need to do research about the people that you want to do business with because you never know when you're gonna get an opportunity and so so you wanna know you want to put yourself in situations. Also you want to go to events. Go to seminars go to these different things but the well armed be well research so you know what's important so when that opportunity does present itself. Let's say less brown walks by us. Mr brown now are you. I listen to this. I know you're doing this. How's your health. The little things are what are gonna make you stand out and be unique. Absolutely i remember when lebron conference. I actually interviewed him and it was <hes> i had a it was a brief moment but it was a it was a great interview as you know last week on on on the podcast guest my guest terry dir she talked about being successful in business is an inside job and you've pretty much mentioned a while ago to about success. Anything is an inside job. He first of to look within and so get claire. What it is that you really want and once you have that clarity who it is that can help you to you know to get to that goal then we we take it from there. No you've mentioned about <hes> just jumping back a little to some of the successes you've had leveraging or your network and just reaching out at one of you you mentioned undesirable bob prato but if there's any other examples of how you've you've been able to travel the world and connect connected in fact one of the things that even triggered me to to to have this conversation with you because i remember <hes> meeting you right here let lesbian conference and then when i read unac- singles new book and he was saying some things about you in the book. You say no what is confirmation. Let me just have this conversation with john so all right awesome so give us some other examples of you leveraging the power ria network jer nigga. I have for the last eight years. Here's become business partners with with connell. I'm sure most all your listeners know him. I've traveled around the world with him. That came out of a phone call and someone asked me if i could bring him to india now. I didn't know him through the what i teach in through what i talk about. I was able to get him there yet. Now we will actually be down in brazil october. We'll be back in india december so i'm i'm partners and the when i talk about my relationships i'm not running and taking a selfie in all these photos. A lot of people like to post these are people that i can call directly and i have their number. These are because because of what i teach their genuine relationships partnerships and business relationships less brown asked me to come run his company for a couple of years. I went in there and helped him get things sorted without <hes> have great relationship less. I was able to a lot of your listeners. I'm sure loved cricket. Even though we we have enough time in the world west indies but probably one the few americans you'll find who loves creek. I lived in trinidad for year and i was able to put together deal and bought the trinidad and tobago cricket team when they launched the c._p._r. League it was a co owner of that with like a mobile from england. I put that whole deal together in six weeks with no idea how i was going to do it but because of what i believe in what i teach in the mindset that principles i use that deal was done in six weeks at twenty five million dollar franchise. I became co owner of that. A lot of clients in in bollywood of one of my favorite clients is is <hes> brian lara the <unk> y'all him. Oh yeah still do a lot of stuff with brian spoken this morning. He's over in india for the world cup so brian lara. There's there's <hes> i've done produced produced two feature films how raised four million dollars for that now the clients i have several billionaire clients one owns a football club in india and several several clients in bollywood several clients music so but some of my favorite clients are people who aren't <hes> celebrities or people you won't read about on the internet the people who actually have been through some hard times and who have been close to giving up in through what i teach through a course that i put out there. I've been able to help them get back on track to know that they have great value to know that something called the million in you that that million dollar gift each one has that special million dollar d._n._a. Where we have our unique gift that unique to each and every one of us to give and bring to the world and to transform our lives in the lives of people that we come i'm in contact with and so those are the most special people from the ones who who i touched by my message to know that i can give them hope and by sharing my story order by being authentic i i share openly about what i've been through my life and what i've been able to overcome so whether they've been through emotional physical or psychological abuse or or any kind of other stuff that there's always hope no matter where you are at in the world no matter what age you are color race ethnicity doesn't matter but you all have everyone has a unique gift anytime you mentioned indies lightbulb something goes off in my head because i'm so in love with that country having spent two months there there <hes> in in two thousand eighteen and so you talk the boat of course you you you do stuff with your econ. <hes> to india was it and <hes> you're doing all these amazing things with these names that are known but you did also looted a fact that the per- you work with people who are not we're not says is known. They just want a better life and they want to construct a bit eleven so you can help them to do that. I'm going to ask you what is that one person can construct this bitter live and perhaps you can segue into <hes> the course that you have that can help persons to that sure nigga <hes> well in mike course and in the webinar i teach kinda masterclass they teach people that they have to master these three steps to change their life and the first step that i talk about is is really what i call mastering during the mirror where we have to get honest with ourselves and we have to be able to look in the mirror <unk> for years i would you know even wash my face on an angle because i was so ashamed of my life and and how things turn out so we have to have complete except in so for what we've been through and where we're at in our life you have to take a an honest inventory tori of where things stand and able being able to look at yourself in the mirror and saying okay my past does not define me and the future does not define me but today what actually can i take today. Those are two days that we should never never worry about ever which is yesterday and tomorrow we should just focus today one day at a time but you have to be able to look yourself self in the mirror and say okay. This is what i'm gonna do. Now doesn't matter what's happened to me works <unk> so you you master the mir. The second thing you need to do is you need. Take an inventory of your network like we talked about earlier and really have clarity about what it is you want and then start to figure out who can who in your network can help you get to what you want and i go into much greater detail in this. I know we're short on time and the third step is really the where you need to change your mindset. I talk about in the training. <hes> we've all been to a lot of seminars. We go to all these things. We all fired up. Get back home. When we and everything goes right back down it was and we all want a better life. We know that if we do certain steps steps some most of us. Do we just changed a few things we can have the life that we want but most of us don't ever do it and so i've been i just been obsessed with trying to understand dan why when even my own life why if i know i do these things i can get to the promised land so to speak. Why don't i in like you said earlier. It's the ego there's something i call the minefield that that that gap between where we're adding where we wanna be and so you have to have awareness and recognize what it is. That's been holding you back. Usually it's either fear doubt up blame the victim so the first step is awareness then this is what i talk about when i see you have have to act awareness this the c. is choices. Now you have to start to make some other choices because at ego will fight you so hard to any it does not want you to change. It wants you just to go through life. Miserable unhappy have regrets in like what could have been in it wants you. It wants you stay safe but that's not what we're here for. We're here heared play huge and to make a difference in the world each and every one of us and the most important thing that t is thank. Thanks give thanks you have to have gratitude you know we talked about a lot of my celebrity clients and all this stuff and it was great. I've been able to travel on the ruled private jets and all that wonderful stuff but what really transformed to change my life life is when i started to have gratitude every morning and get back in. I now volunteer a lot with the organization called starkey hearing foundation <hes> we went to the dominican in public and gave hearing aids to sixteen hundred kids. I just was able to bring them to trinidad year ago and when i was able to put that hearing on a little seven year old boy who had never heard sound before in his life if it changed my life no longer did all these fancy parties and planes and all these stuff that didn't matter anymore. I realized that that moment that this is what was important jordan so we have to have gratitude. We have to remember that we have to be thankful each and every morning and that's the way we need to start our day and give back and so from that like you mentioned. God created a course if everyone wants to go check it out at million new dot com forward slash free training if you go in the chat box and you just put the words nica in there i wanted to do something special for listeners also asked for is that go through the course. Give me a review but i will put i will send them a coupon code indika where they the course for free. I wanna do that for you and for the people jamaica. I just ask once you go through it. Give me an honest review. I love to hear the feedback of the course and really in that course you're gonna gonna learn everything that we talked about today on the podcast in much greater detail how do how to look at where you're at in your life how to change your mindset how to evaluate and find your network. How do you use that network how to leverage to get back how to adopt the the two people removed mindset and something which i think is helped me stand out from most people is something called little things for big connections how to how to do those little things that will make a lasting impression on other people amazing master the meru through taken venture of network and change your mindsets <hes> in in a nutshell. That's essentially what you've said. In the last few minutes is such a pleasure. We're speaking with you. John and i know you mentioned the website that we can get your free course but we also want to give you this opportunity to just mention where social oto nido <hes> that we can find you <unk> on on facebook. It's <hes> john keller rico jay owen t._a. L. a. r._i._c._o. <hes> same on instagram as well -solutely amazing thank you so much my guest as been john taylor rico and i thank you john and wish you all success as you continue to give back and you continue to having person persons to extract opportunities from the global network and construct the life that they think is impossible. Thank you can and really a grateful to you and grateful mazing stuff. You're doing there for the people jamaican in around the world really to change change lives and anything i could do to help. I'm always here for you. Thank you for having me. You're very welcome and thank you my people former for tuning into this episode with john taylor rico. 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RHLSTP Edinburgh 2019 07 - Spencer Jones / Janey Godley & Ashley Storrie

Richard Herring's Leicester Square Theatre Podcast

1:01:07 hr | 1 year ago

RHLSTP Edinburgh 2019 07 - Spencer Jones / Janey Godley & Ashley Storrie

"<music> ladies and gentlemen welcome to the new town theater. Please welcome a man who already rather damp today his regional ring not the thing very much for coming along to this podcast. It's called rigid. Herrings lipstick smear teats podcast. It's a trip to come up with the new thing with this too. Many interview ones comedians and drink other communities boring so from now what this is going to be. It's going to be attribute to the scene in under milk. Wood west isn't penn halligan stick around her nipple. I'm gonna talk to all about guests about their main memory. Just that one seems he's like no one remembers that is i remember it very clearly. I'm friends with susan hannigan on twitter. Now that's all i think about when she tweets but i was hanging out with the silent disco walking tool that people with headphones around singing and dancing in the streets that you can't see what this singing singing and dancing japanese fans of nauseous horrible doesn't it but it's it's not it's really cool. Most of them are just listening to this podcast as they do it. They call it relates to persona plus gonna. I've been up again today. I was looking at five fifteen this morning by my son singing nearly two singing his version of baby shaq five fifteen in the morning which is just going daddy daddy which isn't even the real ashok sung. Somebody may not be aware baby. Shaq had cha small child right now and you will become quite where steeler charleston you'll become pretty quickly so it was good though i mean there's a lot of subversive comedians on the fringe but nothing is subversive being waking five fifteen by that and happened to go in and then face that chart for the rest of the day poking you in the i four stars. I'm giving him for that performs. Yeah i've been walking back and forth to this gig and then going home look after kids but every time i do that walk. Something happens on a con on working on the meadows. If you want to go to become contract of if you can hang onto the bar for two minutes you got one hundred pounds of you've seen that he's a fake you stay com. Don't do it is. It's not spinning around or something if you do they get a guy you can do it because it's not spinning around and then it's been ram when you try to which is impossible so don't do. It's unbelievable. We'll it's good to see. People being ripped off in the other day today as well. I got soaking obviously as across the meadows at the other side of the meadows. There's a phonebox advertising tour of wet wet wet which is when you being heckled by redundance communications technology you so you really know your at the edinburgh fringe and that's all the way down i saw the most obnoxious man in the world and i tried to take a photo of him but bosko in the way he was quite old man. There was two of them wheeling along suitcases. The wheelies cases but quite small ones. Men of their size should have eased. They've been able to carry. They're both williams along the pavement down. Broadcast great grey bobby unlike a group of spanish go kids came the other way and he didn't know how to end his hand and he just let it bang into all of of them never seen anything more honest sort of funny but it was also farm and i was terrified to go the fuck you doing my whiny carrying that then some very big scottish men came pass no sudden he was able to wheel may was wade's. I wish him because they said to me one the obnoxious edinburgh which is joining fringe time. He's quite impressive. Have you seen you seen silent disco anyway. Look it shows seven now. So in research is fucking minimal. I'm going to tell you it's going to be a lot of emergency questions. My best casted. It's just gonna get worse and worse as the fringe goes on. Please come see the show. How i i am on tour as well. I'll be much more happy and less wet. Ah richard having dot com slash podcast slash tour if you want to see them coming into you and i will start trying to put some guests those gigs in september and brian less bristol quite soon but my guest today my first guest is probably best known as days from hollyoaks later. That's why we will come today and out of the rain the he pays suggested sit down here. Pick up the much carter up. We go how you doing good. I didn't say hollywood. Holyoke slight took us up. It's a bit too sexy for me. It was the one yeah swear to sway arri and slightly sexy and i find the six thirty one sexy another five minutes for me well. How what did they do in dave was a real straight laced born again christian who who's really cool yeah hey guys it's going to be this and he got spiked with mushrooms and a dog started talking to film this. Can this is weird for you tweet terrible. I always wanted to be on holiday. 'cause i was hoping when i was about thirty five forty. I was hoping they'd just part of a four year old man who comes into chester faster and just gets off with all the details one. That's what i was hoping i'd get that part and i kind of kept on mention on social media more of the holy right right to still get back to the idea but they basically don used to as it curves me with. He did tiny andrew collins site. He was rubbish. He got to go to bat now. If i go that role now is a fifty two year old so he different different sort of poll hollywood yeah yeah by. It's not nice as as a forty year old. It's still horrible forty look man. I've i've been watching your tv show which is just coming. It's all on. I play right yeah the the clunk which is awesome awesome. I don't know if you've seen this show yet. But it's ten minutes long. You can get more on. I player so much in ten minutes. I've seen clips of your standard for there's elements of that so so imaginative as a comedian the question you really asked his way to get your crazy ideas from. You must be on drugs. But where did you get your crazy ideas because i can't look like all of our minds kind of going one hundred miles an hour. Everyone's minds. Maybe it's just me it's just being it's not like i'm thinking of idea idea did this brain keeps moving and doing stuff and home in my gaffe. I've got like a work room with like like a cable. It's up because i like to play. I'm rubbish but there's music there but there's also some paints and stuff and this stuff to draw then you've got the kids and then you go to the computer and i think i might be a little bit a._d._h._d. Where boorda that now no one of his. I feel like i'm gonna pay you paint for one minute. Ah buddha now but as long as you keep in a home eventually stuff starts filled up the bills game paid mrs. Lets me live like that. Did the program is very much character. That types of presume is heavily based on your wife. Yes yeah he was long suffering but he seems real team. You thirteen which oh yeah. It's definitely not rowley is lady. You're here. He goes again. It's a funny the wife character of her but who's not your sleep well it is i mean you talk about this iraq. Tobacco you say on forty whatever you always reference your age as you're walking around with things stomach but it's lovely to be able to carry on playing into adulthood and beyond owned yeah. I'm very lucky yeah for now yeah. I'm getting away with <hes> as we look at it from the outside you go. This is mental what you're getting away of eh but it must have been difficult when you first went onto stage with that because obviously if you're going to do in stand up clubs away or so there's people going on traditional standards. Coming on first gig was awful january for go on as made first and then i'll go it goes someone like me and i walked stage badly for output the tights on came on this issue in tights and it died died and then the next one i think i mean i was managing for maybe three minutes on stage and then bottling it. There was one bit wide shot into a glass like if ayoola in a bad mood you can show class and i thought that was a good idea. You can hit us feel now like taking a microphone and you another phony this unlike x. factor when they sing quantity two then they sing they did that for me is getting yeah on night. Move on it takes a lot of polls. I mean we can see you bowls in your truck. It does a lot of courage that to push through that and presumably aid through quite a lot of difficult things to the point where people understand what's donald yay you do you think about i think being like an old man and not giving ago comedy sir. I'm happily a really really skin old man. Who's just tried it. It doesn't mean rather than i didn't try sitting. They're gonna wish bloody tried it. I should have definitely turned a dog. Poop bags. Were hat should have gone much of the guy who you like. What percentage of the i._t. Is don't work or don't make it so you're trying to basically mundane objects and yes visual puns on my citizen but it's fun in the comedy mundanity as well but it's it's different yeah. It was more percents hit rate. I reckon this usually did he stuff works but sometimes it's very degrees you kind of have to work out why it's not work. It's hard to a number and it really at stuff. Sometimes changes like obviously with an audience like i've got the minute. We should just me saying gee. I remember mama over and over again. If you say you do remember the young moms and gang onboard brought into the minds as a comedian. I just want to get thinking technical issues behind it like you're doing pretty melbourne and i'm thinking to do you have to take that. There's a thing with your wobbly and you have to take on the flight with all the props you must the go-to melba shows based at the airport when idiot bring noise it was made it inside and i just went on my i've no idea if any of this is legal but look and that was enough for them not to look at any the black no one's going to do that way to fix in which you're allowed smuggled some weight of it all uh-huh cook get soggy and then stop to the side of the plane took. There is some lovely stuff in that just in that first episode of you put your face in koko pop and then and then gradually fall off. I mean that's what i wanted to do like <unk> breakfast theme where that pretty breakfasting with malcolm lines when they do the stripper and then there's stuff. I thought be quite nice to have a guy who's like a conductor but he feels like he needs to have a bid to eh. The idea was banged down into two bags per active cocoa pops because they were better and then you come up with a bow tie on and then i kind of get like a breadstick and conducts wherever it was going on but then not like this lowly changes and before you know face covered in vacillators of boko pops and it's a it's a chat with the agent so you it just kind of always evolving and again. Did you try every different breakfast to find out the best one <hes>. I wish i had but no we someone mentioned coke reports. We tried it and that was there's my mom makes johnny where we've always wanted to have a plate of something. We had this idea for spaghetti pollen as there was going to be and it was going to be had as kids. We never got around to that. Never was we had this idea. We never did it but you know you get puns japon. We kind of our county. I wanted my kids to come up to me and say in in the show. He says what counts go into his head and i go to look into this pond the ideas i did my whole head into the pond and then come out with these nice green. The allegation of long tash never have yeah. It's it's such an individual thing i mean there are echoes of other the stuff in sometimes it feels like very old slapstick comedy something a little bit of young ones. Ask sorta stuff because it's talking objects but it does it is is finding your own comedy voice which you've done very i mean how long how long were you working in the club's before you well i would say because i started very young like hit. Double double that in seventeen years old marks and spencer and nice run three gigs first two gigs with bright right turkey was at the sixth form disco and and i said we'd smashed it lovely thing you start. This is amazing. I say mama home not just need to find it from a big seventeen years old onto giggs phone party. Everyone's like trying to get off of each other. They snuck in vodka and i got to the d. django yoga the company now and he says he'll yeah yeah yeah and you stop the record and there's gonna be some comedy now. Booed off stage my fortieth. My best mates in two thousand four the clowney kind of stuff eureka moment. I'd been doing loads of stuff but then it was probably five six issues ago. I started trying hard. When the kids came first i came along and it was like you need to sort this out. People rely on you but you have to call of acting as well you're in crow nation and if he asks the code base into two days before and then they i bought it and then when nobody should rejoice impression really it'll be fine and we find and it's not just about al it has a great it seemed a little as the series progressed a little bit on the nose and benoy toby because the guys in charge said like the camp of his time was the biggest comedian in the world and they went for wreckage evasive because he's as you know the based on so well in america they wanted it to be that and a significant because you kind of went came to edinburgh in two thousand fourteen scene on knbr i did one gig went well and the cost was that and that's how i got the worst that endeavors horrible. I got that job out of it. A <hes> yeah has wreckage obeys commented upon no. He hasn't no no no no. I know people that know him and he's never mentioned it really it. Doesn't you would have even sometimes gets no beef so this is an american comedian who always takes the piss out of him and he is on twitter. It's quite angry guy. They probably means. He's not angry about you. Know try the hardest and from what i was born in reading as well. That's part of the accent. It's quite easy so we'll pretend pretend go back and ask you a couple of emergency questions. That's sorry doesn't just trying to sell to the audiences. I'm i'm gonna ask you this. I'm gonna it's coming in quite random okay. If you had to invent a fifth season two other seasons pretty put it in between and what would happen in this fifth disease. That's great. I think i think let's have some like just between all winter and spring. We're going to quote it. Why would i think about eh and maybe a season before summer so you can work out how to wear shorts because i look rubbish insurance too nice little caesar season many seasons working at what you need to like section getting trousers gradually imperceptibly for three months it. Nobody knows just grab some yeah yeah. Let's let's make that happen. I think in edinburgh they needed. They need four seasons. They've only got one every season every day. Okay there's there's some questions and you know. I don't remember writing. I i'm not saying i wrote this book quickly. A is your happiest memory of a time when you were alone or with with other people question his memory. That's that's a question for date. Apparently that's the one big request yeah. I'm going in my thanks bye happier alone or with other people perhaps memories like when when the kids were born the did did you read it because i'm glad the kids a ham and the day they were born. Both of them was a horrific. Just once it finished gig gigs exactly yeah once i think it was when my daughter was born because we convinced the we're going to have two sons not not like kind of feeling just there was little clues and stuff you know when they do the scan and stuff and then it was daughters i it was that was an amazing feeling. That's pretty big. You know it's funny how you sunday listen to. This is going to be really upset finds out. He didn't want to get very happy. Watching the rookie movies on my own still get goose pimples. Yeah i kind of you know the older. I get the more i like big as much as possible uh-huh yeah. It's nice having a family. It's all right now that you have to pretend that you have to pretend my master thing i know we're on the same wave like i will do one more and then we'll have to get the crazy ladies from backstage. I'll ask you this. I'll be interested to find out this. Would you rather have a that dispenses talcum powder yeah so nipple or a finger that can travel through time so you can go anywhere in the past all the future not the president of discovered because that is just your finger and you can you can ulta things can look through the whole and see what's going on so you can you can. You can't get any further than that thing got. He can spend some top cover. That's a base of the question is what would you do if you could put your finger through time. What would you touch it. Probably i probably do stuff but then you want to see the result of afterwards so i think just my finger popping up very key moments in time there. Is there yeah just in case as a big back to the future still issues. There is something in the bible about a finger appearing. Maybe yeah. I mean just some aiming for the bible times. He's not significant story remember. There is something about a disembodied finger. This is a question. I thought i love coming to edinburgh hardly ever done. I'd like to go and see the lewis of lewis chessmen national museum gallery. Whatever is i would quite like to take some of those home home with me and keep them in a drawer. Did you see that someone found the lewis chessmen they draw the fifty lewis chessmen you must do. They were discovered in the oatmeal. Someone like that big of mike. The olive lewis probably i'm thinking about it and and that just this really so slightly comic but quite cool chest that from viking times i would like to own one of those if you could take one item from any museum of the art gallery in your life to take home with you in the world or just set your interesting anything that you look. Is there a painting because it's like no ought to be the most valuable thing could be. Oh god is there anything. He finds having in your house a nice van gough the other day that never seen before. I thought i'd like that that's not one of the main once the cheaper than another one of his to see how much the price range like so maybe some from the summits do beatles yeah maybe good to have john lennon's dot pinole played in imagine. Not me pretty good happened. Never play imagine on it. Chopsticks videos online to annoy people. He should as version imagine you have my p._i._n. No ready into we've got fantastic. S coming up so it's going to be slightly but thank you so much coming. Wins your show. I love the posters well a loved. They all the five five at the pleasance one of the ones beginning with beyond besides just walk in and the monkey metaphor is my late the disco which is with every night. If there's anyone wants to get up and sing please do amazing stuff as you do have to say if you haven't seen before jones it about just getting old but everyone. I see now good what they do fuck he's. He's an amazing comedian as quickly mentioned the fact you should we'll go program. That is a gift as always what these shows as always dumped fifteen years is making collection at the end for scope which is a charity that is helping disabled disabled kids and trying to get equal rights and access sable people. If you feel that is worth something you can give someone in the buckets up to the show either someone holding one going out or if you look for me i'll be sitting sitting on a desk in the entrance door will slightly wet from the rain and we're back on my table. Hopefully you can give give somebody that. I'm also selling mercy questions books. You can buy the brand new questions book at knock-down prices. I'm trying to shift my remaining stock. You can buy the original questions ashton's book and you can also buy some amazing robusta week stickers. I'm one of the cool kids if you buy both books you get those stickers for nothing. That's an amazing. I think we've got a few more. That will be available on. Go faster stripe dot com if you are quick as well. I'm very happy to sail osaka. New programs do sell fees all that nonsense. I have a card machine. You can pay card if it's working p._k. Does the end of his does he goes out. I sometimes i make forty. Five pounds spent on pre monitoring sub sandwiches. That's what i spend on right right. My guess i've really prepared nothing for these two but i'm on even been done what they're best known for. I haven't their best known for <hes> being up against each other for the herald scottish culture awards but which of them was the winner of that and is therefore the best of the two and would that lead then also best known for their like russian dolls. One of them came out the other ones. Vagina is is the is the there might during in this show another one might come out of the other ones i will. We'll never bad for just off. The cuff was because i forgot to prepare. Apparently he's amazing. Johnny nash these related from scotland scotland like you coming coming up. I'm not pregnant. I'm just bulletin. Search your horrible mon-. I thought i thought you were a sexual the family in the just produce another another clone when when the time is ready yeah we just keep pollen comedians rejoin to okay saw audie mason's whole catholic wefa. Fani is setting the stage and a masonic lodge watch. I feel like i should rule out much as i can just start shaking hands. We are flashing manappl-. I don't they do they. Do many women who comes in the leaves him in a coffin is my guest or just a pontiac respect put them in a coffin hashtag signal mason's no so far i've been caught read about the masons on this podcast and we haven't been kicked off. This selects not discuss that might be sent the prison context shape. What am i doing. All the police are in the masons on that. They aren't so who won the which one of you won the award for being the best cultural thing in scotland the one who's had more time to contribute culturally yeah. It was me she she heckled me all the way through speech and the funny thing is people in the audience are under didn't know that she some that no she was madore your suicide up. She's let's play and i could see the horrified caught. It was very very upmarket and all these people are really upset that she lost a warrant. Explain madore that was booed me and i thought it was funny money but there was you know those old people that shouldn't attend events because they don't have the right cultural and put the salt lake. I'm not mike if i work in james. I can't tell if it's me or is that right as my microphone working okay. I think it does my j. That'd be able to hear you. Thanks for the national space station causing day schnorr should all yesterday decors bushy it enough law at the fringe because we don't have a million pounds for two lots for the month. She got up at like nine in the morning born and she does these voiceover videos. You'll love adwan understand name. She was doing some. I don't know what you're doing all that katina's best it's something over and over again and it like sweat tend to my dream and then walk me up and i was furious and then you didn't understand why i was in a bad -ment she said in a bad mood every single time she wakes up sensuous and a half these want which is true so i'd understand why why you're surprised i used as the morning when i'm in a bad mood when i wake up the pattern holds mother stopping like what's wrong with you. It's more thing and of woke up. That's that's true even as a newborn baby. She will not let us 'cause. I hear your voice. I told you wouldn't need any question. I'm like just take the rest of the show off can have a nice tough now with my own idiot children so they say it is i have to apologize because every time i complain about edinburgh the price of edinburgh combination on twitter some will then living blasco and commuting and i will then say told janey godly about that he lives in glasgow doesn't commute we can't because of this show oh and then she's got her show and then i'm doing martial and then i'm doing radio for tonight so it's not like we can just come in the train. Do a couple of shows stunned in a bus. Shell are and then wait to that spanish then you need to be here you can an hour flat this three and a half grand this year and the women asked us not smoking flat so i still left haley my i'm saying in the house they'll go to children and they don't contribute anything is working. Yeah conscien- conscient- seven thousand pounds for the i._t. The guy who i it's a nice house. I have to say what it is. I mean it's not worth a go into the always worth it but the guy who owns the house is friends the guy i know in london and i've mentioned which tank stay in my house and saw tweeted this and then now. He's all his friends taking the piss out. He's a socialist guy. That's right. Thank you for being good for that. I decided not spend any money on anything else. I post soon. They'll be a fish oil so it's a different thing and the sense is a different thing that not good but then you don't have a gun komo wage command either. We take such rusty talk to strangers. Don't do you guys both you've got a fantastic attitude towards the friends. Well actually we're. We're talking about the shows a free and you want them to be free because we want to see them when they can't afford to see him. It's actually doing an important message for the mental health thing masters last year. Smear tests spat important to get your smear test because women are dying of embarrassment and that's ridiculous and this year. I'm talking about being mental 'cause the n._h._l. Waiting list was too long for put so now you have to listen to. It's free and i think it's good. I mean i still make money. That's the other thing is when you do a free. Show people think that you're not making any money and i don't do a big push on the bucket speech h._m._o. Even she gets annoyed because my speeches if you like to and you've got money stack one in if you don't like it just keep that to yourself because nobody likes us that set they don't push for money. I think that when you're not a paid venue and i've been at eleven so i've watched comedian set when nazi what's in their stomach salem new sexy tar every day and knowing that they still won't go home with money. No one knows they'll go home and even though the sold out every day because the venues taken a cotton because everybody's taking that and i never ever wanted to be a never wanted to live that life where the syringe was distressing the the wasn't fun anymore and the free fringe ellos you to have fun allows you to not have to set without boulder in your chest and also not funding tortoise so that's my ghetto. I didn't feel for the people who live in edinburgh coming up. It's expensive excessive anyway. Yes there is a free show this important that that i mean hardcore what can claus claus speech in a non know that the arts on always accessible to people on a limited budget and i'm not that i'm not you know scan anymore but i remember wants want to come through the french. People can't afford sexting ticket. They can't afford the twenty five train or whatever it is and then he just can't afford to see more than one with such a huge risk and the thing about the three shows is it makes it really accessible for people to come and see a show and then go well. I don't have money and people often coming mccune go jimmy. I don't have any money like nothing for money. You don't have to pay. This'll be fine. Enjoy the show. Go have a good time and i see people. You can put money on the bike do it. You can't do it if you're really scared. Take money out and cause. I won't die for the one a couple of people take care of me and it just takes that whole thing is this hasn't fought us as far really posh english people. It's not fought us no as far as all comment and see have a laugh and some people put do you know bitch curtains and use mobike which is fun as well. We'll keep them after brexit when the economy clashes but but from a business sense even though from her socialists everybody deserves entertainment and that fucking boys study away from business sense it just makes it just makes good sense as well because you'll yourself when you're a newer comedian and and you're coming to the people who have to equate are going to spend that equipped to see somebody off the tally gonna spend that money to see somebody they know and are guaranteed laughs offs because of made them locks before they're not going to risk money on me soon you act should come and during the three fledged because it's it's a way you can get see because he told repeatedly the only when you come to the flinders to get seen by people you can get seen by people actually seat. You're not fighting retrofit head and you're you're fighting when people people who you don't think you're available the other thing that made me speech to the free throw because i've done other venues for years of assembly that plays in the whole lofton pneumonia mona member one day i was on fly on fly them and do the daytime shows to get an audience son and then i would fly them. These people went obediently loved to shore. We'll see you at six o'clock and i'm like thank god and then i'm standing outside the pleasance and up comes the people who taught me that shaw and in front of me was a guy from like you know some big comedy promotion company and this is what the medal of the festival get free tickets so as ready defensive over these people. Why did you buy a ticket for me. When a guy standing there we can't eat hundred of not beg off e tickets but has comedian has bike london by that's gonna make it next on the tail so we need to people ed room so i'm like why did you say the venue kevin away fleet ready three festival swollen maps myself and properly and i do get some steaks. Some of the promoters moore's upset or didn't do the festival. You legitimize kill us. Thank you say and good and i'll pay my tax. John what's more important up. Pay my fucking staff obviously doing the beggars don red shirt off. You've seen newspapers. They don't well. This avenues saying <hes> nick burns was saying that down the line. You'll get your foot in the door and then it means you could ever leads onto other jobs which i think was driven the eight tonight with all those people was dying off but it's not you know there's so many people here now then people leaving an everything there you're not guaranteed to get expect kids to come on the come from all over the world will come from the no even grown cats all over the world and they come here and they work for a twelve hour shifts and it's like all would actually charity so they get paid title trump and then eleven and a floppy nineteen other kids but if they put it didn't expedia geno what staff see something funding because there was a girl selling tickets opens with rain when she came up to an interesting this is going to be at the edinburgh fringe and you're gonna be saying how just printing tickets for people if they're not going to pay for to do anyway. I love both of you on social. You'll meet lots of reasons. You both have grab hold in the internet then you love manson. Don't follow me on aw that's mike doesn't sound weird because the jeevan. I'd see all the time i was lucasville. You must be your memory twee. We love social media for me is really weird because the people in public assumed the people my age can walk social wichita's it snap chomp that are bodice thing social media and your as fit for years hot and my dad would fight law and then she got twitter know she fakes spur strange. They're finally hoppy saved armata and she can tell when i'm arguing arcane with some dishes by the hardness of typing i can heat and i can no or she's. She's in an argument with some. I'm gonna hate. I love the people who take you on jamie king. They think oh it's it's a woman show crumble. Are they really don't know you not. I will go for that. Foul brought roll out some to go. I don't like your your no funding needs meet and you watch mcelwee arsenal well. That's not very nice genoa elsa very nice. You're i go away. Keep off to our feed. You don't look at lake it. When it's the geyser lake you ugly and then you look at their profile picture and for those listening i did a thumb with a face and i like the ones that see you'll never get section sex and you look at them and you see if you've been in a fire. I don't care if you gonna question. My ebola have sex. I'm going to slide you. You entered the yawn the door tip me. He sees nettie touches. My heart down on also we love to harden dodd pump like crazy soul sounded. Just one room isn't it. I like to stand at the door and shape. Why are your heart mummy and then they have to pay me. Go away we while the your video is on the doing online incredible ashley really really really good fun. Thank you tail what in some of the therapies greymouth roads estate in scotland f stop with scott issue because we you can't allow representation like when i was growing up you only score people i saw were drug dealers on the bell on the father or org or on ankles in but i just like the idea of things being different if they were scottish in and i've got some cabot tires lake chad i had a pet cop artists really good at parker and i love the fact that she did. The handmaid's tale discussion migra outward retweeted spoke of boats that she was absolutely she cry. She's all by this author and it's me i have to around the hall where camera and i can be certain just like watching t._v. Or reading a book and she just comes in we are wagging low for comfort to get your camera can hole and then we have to tell donna it cute. We have to put the sausage dugout pikers speed tepi toys beacon is on the floor and and then i have to do and then she's trying go back in your room and then they go online and i love your characters but she's always done even when she was in the pub she used to commend the pump and all the drunk men with who is this giggly dick did make me funny noise. He's he's your child is really come into the pulp open just to mention to say does and i would walk ken and address and be like teddy lows of needs a love are aw just horrified old man would be stayed in a saucer assassin. She's very weird. It stop start animation throwing camera and she took all the to be plea deals and been along with it was always a jewish escape tape from the nazis always and the wash wanda's toed pump to tell them it's really bad. I didn't know they had they had the baby and they often and i didn't know any better we couldn't say which just means the jews escaping the nazis dad's lucky and you in how the playmobil which was always a catch in the off switch to catch unseen and then there's let we need the nazis and the mummy opened the up and down the bb and the other lick contel she escaped and everybody was fain and it was really good and then occasionally like the ginger cat would come on and just like pee in the middle of my scene and she couldn't add it. It should be allowed to beg tat than i the but she was always. That's all she ever wanted to do is make felony. Even this very small al-sharar wanted to do was just setting the carpet. We are comedy comedy and make the internet allows. It's interesting when we talked before you saying is sort go to gallon t._v.'s us people but then something ten years austin that doesn't matter anymore the first working class scottish woman to be on on have i get used for you and set five years the forest they are yeah. Thank you your lot lusted. Applause does not no. I think it's the attorney has a proper ha ha for for both of stuff that i'd pitch to bbc for years. They relate mill. They taught you or your mother name and then the first video made the f. harry potter scottish got thirty million hats yeah they are melian melian heads and that paul won't really what well with the public lake here. I was like manna it was it was a great feeling the same with people who were very much like you have to be less political gene yet. It's all symbolic and then she's made our bread and butter making fun. Ana politicians fight trump but one of the things as well as she made the b._b._c. and modern media had a real had to be like a a one minute set that somebody at media skill has taught all the people in media has to one minute there with research does she actually through exchange. She made a video that was over two minutes and they know changed. The rules can belong the algorithm who's changed on facebook so they want your goes to be longer than three minutes. It's a weird thing it shows all the time and it makes the vetted air for the robots the site but yeah the internet has changed things and nothing that at people always said to i need to working class to scummy remorse us to me and you're working to load your to common. You're not and you won't ever find your audience and the whole time the audience was there and i phoned them and now the only so innovative national you. We say two years ago lucy a woman running. Ah hopefully things are changing in the world. Hopefully things are getting better for women and for different social groups because of a man puts up. This is the thing we've noticed if agai sergio is content on the web to a woman puts the coin and that's just the kevin we were speaking without mama journalist for female pits story up and it gets it gets hundreds of comments a man. It's just that still exists that as stow that thing that the minute on it you put up a video hateful comment hateful comment oh wiscon- more for women than for men. It's just the just the there's always going to be. He some guy like there's a man who comments every time i told you before you know funny like that's go to change but it keeps it but just people showed numbers walking in the street china a wide awake wait but i'm one trade and i was playing. I was playing pokemon. Go and this guy drove past me and he was like fuck off. 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I saw the should not funny honey. I'm like fine. You bet what my favorite one is no dues when a lot of people say you're not funny. I can't believe m._d._c. You might argue standard say venue until the seven hundred people people coming on the show pintucks and you don't like me because i'm sure they'll lesson but sometimes they do and then they turn up with we flit scene but yet a spy no and how you're not really mothered indoor. We've been hired by the dash gov government to cause trouble date divert attention away from what's actually i'm gonna talk. She's an she's an emergency. I'm a spy for the but each government guy sigma venue give the flyers. I mean the the gag that night was hysterical took such a straight on stage and then upon i just watched the f we wear the flaw yeah. The wages for the british government beat an emergency nights or a shot but i just accept that that is people who only stop for not just go well. 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About how your life was game with an obvious the joke about at life life inside side book is amazing that relationship is my mother endorser smugly and belly cross han no all i know as really good good powell's pretend like she was always like i'm not your land on your mother but that was bill scher. She's very eddie much for powell's born of the fact that my dad is very audience. Good innocent socially suggest to step had there and n. b. like her husband daughter too yeah. That's a homicide but you've always even when we were young. We're young. She was always good fun and we've always been written became a thank in a really weird win all seriousness. I know that she grew up up and the more she realized can lay off hard. She became very cheap. You became very protective and overcompensate today and and for you know she would see at amend but this is an example when she was bit for a fight before xia's nearly one she was calling my hair and transceiver namo annum the mommy mumias yield the baby by stress and i think children did do that. They sang that when they go there. You're gone and became to do but she's all you turn an elite benjamin button and go all babyish pella right. That's to be able to be very supportive of each other. We very really have a fight because loving husband who has autism can sometimes be so exhausted and drained and became the gang up on hammer we burton and she's been great 'cause even tell him he's wrong economic and then she'll go as soon as i go for a pitch the manatee leave the room. She's like listen up your arsehole. You'd be annoying woman for four yeah just fucking leona league and then schuermann giggle heavy i wrong and then you'll feel bad yeah that has ruined my dad's life. Yeah it can never be rate of edison again elvis or these songs nine of let's do a couple of emergency questions with them when they go so fast the time on the show but i'm going to go old school emergency questions both what is the most pretentious book you ever bought but never never read lincoln and the bardo okay yeah. I've never read. I just bought it so much to look smart in front of a whole book short man and no and i think i saw a catcher in the rye. Just somebody's cheap clarksdale. My friend becky nobody has call us new my friend becky used to take cash by your check just met with attack just to see if she'd get pilled over and she never got search for our was dead and she would have cashed on the other weird one book about what life than the book <hes>. That's why that's the guy the guy killed in man read catcher in the ryan and that's what made him kill on. I think we should be mental health. Help people that make people think catching rights to blame okay controversial. 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1011: It's almost 2020? Did anyone tell Doug and Strickland???

The Nice Guys on Business Podcast

38:40 min | 9 months ago

1011: It's almost 2020? Did anyone tell Doug and Strickland???

"A science experiment gone terribly wrong. Here's what's coming up on the nice guys on this. It's time to listen to Jerry voicemail. It'll be like eh Bob. I got some jeers never told us what kind of music he likes. I you GonNa just say I bet. He's a hair metal fan. Oh Jared Kids Hydra wife come into your from California. The State Prison in Los Angeles County is prison. CAST would doug pretty mouth sandler and stricken soap on a rope bonner bill from where you are now to where you could be get expert tips to grow your business to be more productive and more efficient. Whether you're trying Brian to build influence grow your community or make it rain bestselling author of Nice guys finish. First Doug Sandler can lead the way the nice guys on business is is produced by turnkey podcast productions. Now here's your host Doug Sandler way okay. Well we do have a whole bunch of stuff to talk about. We are post holiday right now. Do you have the Post holiday blues not yet not yet. Hey by the way Welcome back welcome back minister about on the other side of the micro Mr Deck Sandler Moorer So welcome to To one final episodes before the beginning of Twenty twenty I can see clearly now the the clear vision of twenty twenty is now here. The Rain Is gone the rain is gone. Who is I can see a ops? Johnny Nash One who really truly one hit wonder if there was a remake. Cover that somebody did ooh. I can't remember who do the remainder because remake was really big too although almost exactly like the original. I'm going to have to look it up now. So did Did Dan Fogelberg. Ever think that. His Oleg Zein was ever GONNA take over. You know into the into into the new year's by for a few years kind of get this popular thing going on but just never really did. I just ate myself by saying Dan Fogelberg his old Lang signed I mean his. Does he have a same old Lang Zayn or something like that. Would hold on a second Jimmy Quinn remake of it. Jimmy Goldberg hold on. I'm looking I'm looking at up because I because I can't. I thought the name of the song was. Yeah there's an old lifetime but I didn't. It's it's like an old classic explains it's all on the Dan. Fogelberg I think wrote is it hold on a second New Year's Eve in for Same Old Lang Zion. That was the name of it. Don't you remember me and my old lover in the gross restore the snow. Who is falling? Okay is that was that one is called my only now. It's actually called Same Old Lang Zayn so I wasn't sure if that was ever supposed to take over as a As like a a New Year's Eve we've hit but you know it kind of pulls at the heartstrings. A little bit and he was. He's a little bit like down in the dorms. Because I I don't think he or his or his ex actually had anything to do on Christmas Eve. 'cause they're both in grocery store on Christmas Eve and they go out and drink a couple of beers in the car. Who knows what happened after that? I don't know kind of ships over that kind of skipped over that entire part and then just moves onto the rest of the song a she gave a kiss to me has a hey guy out say something about the snow turns into rain. It's depressing song though. I kinda depressing. Uh of going to look up the lyrics now what do you think of that. All of a sudden is that like a New Year's Eve song now just because it has the words Alang sign in. Well I thought it was maybe one one of those songs that That was trying at some point. The reason I thought about it was because I was talking about This is GonNa be our first song until our for some are one of our or last episodes until the the new year and and then I was thinking A New Year's Eve songs and then I was like Oh yeah Christmas Eve song that Dan Fogelberg and and then I remember Shit I just age myself and then that whole the whole process went over my head. I don't know. She said she married her architect. Who kept were who kept her warm and safe and dry okay? there's there's a lot of lyrics in that song. The songs that they have now. How many how? Many words you think anchor before they start to repeat themselves during the typical lyrics of a song. You would probably know any. Tell me what you want what you really really want. No tell me what you want. No idea what made me think of that song right so in Dan Fogelberg Song Same Old Lang. There's like one two three four five six seven eight nine. There's like there's there's like fifteen paragraphs in that sauce lot. Yeah that is a lot. That's a lot you must have put a lot of thought into. I still have no idea why we're off on this but okay yes last. Our last show of the two of us for two thousand nine hundred ninety. Is that true the last episode for you and me for two thousand nineteen. Let's see what's what's the date. What is the day? Oh you're right because the into this when he said Yeah. Wow tomorrow the twenty seven seven. Yeah editing is tonight and we're doing it's going to be out tomorrow. Yes that's incredible. Yeah it's like we're like hey we we get more time like we used to have to record on Saturday instead. Right we bunch up. Yeah always always always happens. What is the? What's that saying? Oh you're going to fill the exact amount of time that you're Tasca's whatever it is you're right however given for your task at the the amount of time needed to complete a task will expand to the amount of time that you have available to do the task. Yes and I'm noticing strickland that you're it. Sounds like you're not in your normal setup today you're a little bit more eco-aid sounds he get some glass going on around. You is my sensing that the right thing. They should be quieter. Because I feel like if I if I talked to close then it's GonNa pop all over the place. Is that not good. I don't know I don't think I like that strict because of creepy. He's a little. I'm in a day job so I'm going to office right now and it is like just all it's like nothing on the walls and it's it is amazing audio like I moved into my office downstairs. I think I was telling yes last week. And I've got these panels all set if I don't move the panels even when I'm really close to my mind. I still hear the echo because the room. It's it's Acoustics are amazing things. But it's okay. I got metal panels but I don't have my panels here so so I'll just talk nice and close to the MIC instead. Quieter selling you're just say hi stricken binder and we are at the golf channel so so doug is now teeing up to the eighteenth hole and wow really got all of that one. That was kind of A. Oh looks like it's balanced and it is. It's someone someone in the head. It's I think it's okay because it gets other throwing it throwing it back on. That's not not very good. Not Very sportsmanlike. Sean knows all about that. He's a big golfer. Has I wonder if that's ever happened at a professional golf tournament where somebody actually like Like what is it called when you when you wait not wing the ball but you hit hit it off to the side. He hits somebody the in the in the and then they what happens if they throw it. Are you allowed to so. I know you're not supposed to throw the ball. But when they considered out and play Sean Carpenter to to And to chime in on this because he would know better than me. But I'm pretty sure the whole thing is like play it where it lies so David was to hit somebody right. Wherever it hits it's them and then falls and balances that's where you play at from like they'll just get out of the way like if they're on lookers in there on the side like they will do their best to get out of the way and and if it falls like not in the rough but like out of about Oh well you know? There is an outer balance rule too. But I don't know what that is like if it falls out of bounds you take a one stroke penalty me and bring it to the edge of the INBOUNDS. But Shawna's better I added you were looking at. I just happened to. I tried to Google it and then another article came up corner fan struck and head by Foul Ball. During dodgers game died of blunt force injuries. I heard that well that was a year or two or three hours When was it that was that was in February? So it's about a year ago. The California woman died in August is result of being hit in the head by embattled ball at dodger stadium. Yeah that's that's that's crazy shit. God that's not that's not good. How much does that cost not good not good? She was She was celebrating a recent seventy ninth birthday and fifty nine to edit wedding anniversary with her husband. How talk about a celebration in coming to a screeching halt? No doubt. Can we talk about happier topics. Sure absolutely well we do have a voice mail in there I believe it is from From jared and we and we got some I wanNA talk maybe maybe this year maybe this episode about the upcoming year goals and maybe where where we have been over. I know we didn't really prepare for this. We got some time. We've actually been all. These are old town dose. Oh my God they're sold. I haven't heard anything. It looks either because some of them are my topics. I have discount tires experience funding fans meet up and Bucky haight hundred day challenge. Oh okay yeah well we can talk about all of those but I really would like since this is the final episode or maybe the first episode. We probably should do in two thousand twelve. Twenty twenty is to talk about goals for the upcoming year. Not only for us but for our team as well because of a topic that you just mentioned which is our which is our Turnkey team absolutely absolutely. Do we want to just get get into the voice mail now all before we forget totally sounds like you're in a studio like a professional studio and somebody. Somebody turned up. The river still sounds. It's so perfect. Really close is it's okay doesn't sound head yeah you can fix it in the verb. You can't truly Fox you're screwed if you've Henry is very hard to take river about and that's okay it's all good. I just sit here it sounds okay. Okay yeah it sounds it sounds sounds good. I mean if you had never listened to the show you would think that normal but if you are listening to the show in your hearing you now you're like what did strictly just get into a professional or something like that. You know all those guys. Those radio guys at turn their reaper mob. Just up they had like yeah. So that's that's kind of weird. Sounds all right now. Can we get to the voice. Yeah yeah play the voicemail hate allegations x-jerry here so it's fries it's I guess I really don't have to say it's fried anymore. Because it's always it'll be on a Friday. I'm listening to Friday episode. And you're listening voicemail about the MERCE and and going on here here we go about Doug and his band card yes yes yes yes having lotion in your merce. And it's all women compliment house off. Your hands are yes that does qualify for removal of a man card once once again taking a long time ago my friend equal listening to your show that are men. Probably I agree with me. I can't speak for everyone but I will speak loud enough that everybody will hear it my friend just saying he'll love you great show. I'm only a few minutes in. I don't know twenty percents. This was action. How long you start you? Couldn't you know give to cartridge giving us an hour. Man You know we should do you know I mean. I don't know how long we requested that people call in leave a message coffee to forty two. Dd Doug leave a message. Anything like we WANNA listen had time we can just talk about your company. We won't give Shit. And who goes jared in which we love them. We Love Jared. I don't want jared to stop calling in. We maybe need to create like segment music for jared not not not focused right not like. Hey who's calling today. WHO's got no fucking specifically for jared all right just seriously I like this but but but I see adding extra time onto the on onto your editing? I I don't WanNa give you any more over 'cause now now it's new to what we do is this is N.. caster drop so like before instead of instead of doing it in the edit later I'll be like. Hey it's take for it's time to listen to jared voicemail Babak Jerry. Yeah that'd be the eighties hair metal version. The yet part was it Steve. O'Brien record something but then like it wouldn't be like a musical thing so maybe I will just records to find some good music on audio hero. Hair metal music. I I think jared has never told us what kind of music he likes. I GonNa just say at Betty's hair metal fan I'm gonNA find like an eighties styled uh-huh and put vocals overtured. I don't even know how you did. That include occurred for next week. I'll have to ought to do that to make myself a note. Okay all right. Well I don't WANNA I don't WanNa take away from any of the Subjects or the topics that you have and we haven't spun the wheel in quite so I don't have the wheel here. The wheels at home so I can't spend it but we can pick. It's obvious to tell that whatever if you're using the twenty one hundred or whatever you're using your must be holding making noise as okay now you. You're you're very fidgety. You normally and just in life alone. You're fidgeting and now put something in your hand your extra Fiji so so you need you need like A little velcro thing or you need. Maybe you need a little bit of a buffer between you and the minor one we use. User Yeti Mike's Right and you hear yourself really pretty loud right twenty one hundreds like I hear myself but I don't hear myself I self that loud. That's the problem so I'm not hearing all the handling noise I'm trying not to. I'm aware of the fact that I'm holding the Mike and so I don't WanNa handle and move too much but apparently it's not doing ching album so well remember remember about six months ago. I was at this At this event and one of the things they gave to me as a podcast or Being represented there and helping them out was they gave me a high all microphone. It's like a two hundred and fifty or three hundred dollar microphone and they also gave me the the little digital The exelon digital mm converter. So it's the same thing this really really good sound quality microphone and technical piece of equipment which I figured out US sound but I couldn't hear yeah figured it out but I couldn't hear myself in my microphone out of the It's not that I couldn't hear myself but it was really really salt. It's kind of like using using your Your bose headphones as a and they have a little microphone on the court using bose headphones. When you're on the phone with somebody and you can't use here that perfect perfect person perfectly clear? But you can't hear you because of the the noise damn noise cancelling side of it so like I hate using this as a as a as Phone and that microphone the highlights. The same thing. I can't stand using it. Although it's a really high quality Mike I can't stand us a curious. What the sound quality was how it's different from the he added very curious to do an AB test of that at some point? But you know it's not not that big a deal right right all right. Well let's go on to some of the topics. I am very curious curious about we tease last last week. About the your Your discount tire story and then I. I'm really curious about the the the buck you hate when you go. You bought tires before for your car right so yeah. Let's do when you buy tires. Do you just like go into wherever and just say give me tires I well I do a little bit of shopping ahead of time so I know what kind of price I'm going to be walking into. Now keep in mind. I've had my highlander now for uh-huh ten years so I kinda know that it's going to be about one hundred thirty to one hundred and fifty bucks tired go in there but I still shop the sales and see what's going on but they are my place to go is I really like to go to COSCO. Because it's like they don't they. Don't try to sell you anything. And that's the that's the part about going into a tire place. I hate is they. They always try to upsell you. Then they try to sell you on the on on the The hazard warranty thing and then they try to sell you on Xtra balancing in a line not balanced but and so by the time you get out of there that hundred and fifty dollar tire no cost you about two hundred bucks so you take a five hundred twenty dollar sale and you turn it into an eight hundred two thousand dollars sale. And that's not cool so anyway. That's that's traditionally my experience so it's funny because I totally agree right. I'm GONNA COSTCO membership. And one time I had to replace one tire for my Ford Ford Focus and and I was getting ready to sell sell it and I just wanted the absolute cheapest one I could find because I was literally getting ready to offer right and they were like okay. Well we've got one. That's like hundred thirty dollars or something and I'm like don't you like sixty or seventy dollars tired because like I trust Costco Right. They're not gonNA mark stuff up like but they only sell mid and in high price tires so costco doesn't they don't care the cheapie. Whatever budget tire so it wasn't like Oh my God I said so so I did a whole bunch of research and I'm I'm shopping around and stuff right and of course so when I buy tires us when I do it's like I N T W and there's discount tires and there's all these faulk in places and and really the the what they carry can vary hugely right? I mean for most cars. You can find a sixty seventy eighty dollars higher but the exact same ones from a different manufacturer could cost two or three hundred bucks easily right. Okay so I do try and I find discount discount tires right and I'm like what type can I make an appointment. They're like no just show up. I'm like okay. What time do you open eight o'clock so I get there right at eight o'clock because look you know these places you don't get the puck and early right like five 'til ain't right and there's probably six or seven people? They're already waiting like in line. It's like okay. It's crazy right now. And these aren't like drop-off people these. The people that are that are going to stay while they're waiting outside the door like lined up like you know who's going to be I in crab. Here's where they they just fucking won me over okay. As soon as as soon as the doors open at eight o'clock right there are like seven tails guys that walk out and fan to meet everybody and basically every sales guy just walks right up to a customer immediately immediately. So it's not like okay. You're next in line your next online. They fuck in walkout to meet US and like the guy comes up and he's like hey man. My Name's Corey and I'm going to be helping you out today. What what can we do you for you and again i? I'm assuming everybody else got the same experience but it was so that was the first thing that was corey so hold on. Let me I gotta Ask Questions Art. Should I listen to the story either way so my question is are some of these the texts that are actually gonna put the tires on or do you feel like these are all front. You like like you can't staff like that the entire your day because that would be a waste of good question. I honestly don't know I should. I should have checked because they had like eight bays right. What did you do that? You're attack or visit a sales guy but normally like if if I go into a store the tech guys know pretty much as much as the front they might even know more and I feel like they give you more honest information. Although it's probably a mall solution which is probably why they they have They actually have make up. Its Polish looks like under the nails. Let me see your nails Terry. Okay considered uh-huh yes but yeah it was really interesting so like the and the guy was again he was just really nice. Like A. What's going on? What can we do for you today and I said Hey I'm going to? I called in and you told me you've got this cheapie. Whatever seventy dollars tire away? We're talking forty the Toyota where we go on. This is my Toyota. See The mini. Oh wait a minute I sorry sorry you originally thought you were talking to your because it's just a couple of weeks rent okay and I was like yeah. We called in earlier. And you know I don't know how much longer we're GONNA have the car so I just want the budget tires. I called earlier. You guys said okay. Cool he walks over he takes a look and you know really helpful and he had not pushing not trying to sell stuff. I can't remember some of the other stuff you but it was all just really Friendly Nice personable. You know there was no push to sell shit. I mean you know he threw others like do you want this. Do you want that okay. Cool off and when I said I wanted really cheap ones he. He wasn't like well. You know those kinds of Sauk you know. Oh I know like he walked me through he says. Hey here's the stopping distance of these versus other ones and and get I did the really cheap ones in. And he looked at them like dry stopping distance wet stopping distance compared to the more expensive ones right and he's walking Any showing it to me on the screen. He's like yeah this is like Oh yeah these are you know it's not quite as it's like ten feet longer stopping distance for the cheap ones versus. This is the ones that cost twice as much. And he's like that's pretty close. It's all good right so it's not even like he's trying to push me. It's it's it's kind of like going into into the Carmax and into have you ever been the word Parker glasses kind of like going into those two places where you go in they basically give you the facts and they let oh you decide. It's like when you go into Carmax I. I know that you are probably going to pay a little bit more for the car. Because they have this no negotiation perspective or standpoint or that's their philosophy that's great and I appreciate the fact that they have that but I I love the fact that I'm okay paying a little bit more because I'm getting the the gift of not having to the haggle. I don't want to buy a car. I just WANNA go in. Get something that I. I'm happy to pay a fair price for it and and if I can get out of there without the that that that should be feeling inside me like Oh my God I was either just taking advantage ever man. I won that deal. I'm not looking to make a killing and win. I hold a car for for a long long time. My Toyota again. I've had it's two thousand eleven so it's I've had it for almost ten years now and you know I remember just going in there and just so happy when I made the deal made it so easy just made the deal. Toyota actually was offering zero percent financing at the time. And made it even easier for me so I don't WanNa negotiate any of that so the idea of going into a tire place which I get the same feeling when I go into a higher places like go into store. It's like you don't you don't really know what you're buying. It's like it looks like to me. I don't know okay. What's the what's the difference? I mean I know the brands like Michelin. You're going to pay a little bit more for that but outside of Michelin I don't really know any other brand. That's like We met like Pirelli fast gas right and here And Michelin Tires and then goodyear is like a solid brand but when it gets to like I don't even know any of the other. It's I have no idea so with and he you know these guys they didn't. I don't know if this is specific to this discount tires that I went to or if this this is company wide. But it's like I think of them as like the generic cheap guy whenever with their customer service was totally. The and I'm I'm a convert right if finding new tires again I'm not gonNA shop around. I'm going to go to fucking discount tires. It was cool. I was very impressed. Okay all right. I love that you were impressed but I love the fact that you were impressed right out of the gate. I mean it sounds like at eight o'clock by eight. Oh one you were impressed already and they would have had to have done a real real huge turnaround in order for you not to be happy with whatever was going to happen at the like. I think that would have made you comfortable. Actually spending a little bit more money because of the and then the other thing they did was we had like wheelock. The Guy Ask if we had wheel locks and I'm like no. We got rid of those ages ago and he looked at the tires and he's like Oh you do have one wheel lock on here and I'm like Oh crap you know. Could you guys get me a another bulk to replace it. Because I know what he's going to steal fucking a ten year old minivan tires right and so he's like straight in the black market right now. Ten year old. Hey soon as you went over ten years damn you just hit the the popularity thing. There was mini classes. So I was like yeah you know what at tack on whatever. And it's like no they. They just threw men right and apparently there were three other bolts that we had on different wheels that were the wrong ones or something weird so basically yeah they just throw man. It's like whatever I'm like Kroll of that. Hey Hey I don't want you to be fearful of this Mr Bonner but You wheels are within about selling off. How many miles have you been driving this about? One hundred and fifty thousand Sh. Hey so that was. I mean that was really it that was I was. Actually I would consider a generic product. This is not a product that I would think to myself. Oh my God i I- right coffee. I'll have to go to starbucks right or you know whatever it's like this couldn't be more generic but they have won me over as client now with that service. Okay well you'll see what the next experience has in store for you if the next experience equals the first experience and you know that they have a system in place to maybe do that. I don't know all right. Tell tell me about the Bucky haight. One Hundred Day challenge. Now you've got my my curiosity for those of you who don't others in a podcast call eight minutes motivational hate with Bucky. haid which is one that we produce and very interesting show. All the episodes are about eight to nine minutes. Also a short form. So it's a great one if you don't have a whole lot of time but his one I today actually just came out today. You lost me strict way. You lost me there for a minute. I don't know if I'm sure you probably have it in your recording. But you blanked out author. You're I'm sure my local you said you said eight or nine minutes motivational hate. And then I lost new episode coming out today or actually it would be yesterday from the days. Being published is one hundred eighty challenge so he blocks out his world his life in hundred the day blocks and what he does on the given day of the first day you basically says okay here my goals for a hundred days from now now. I like when you go like Oh. I want to make a goal for the year right well the year. It's kind of long. It's a really long time right or a week or a month. It's assigns to short right. So he sets out. He creates goals for himself. Four hundred days and he lives his life in hundred day blocks and at the end of the he says goals up and he looks at them. You know every week to say hey. Where am I going towards my day goal and he wants to get there and at the end he says? Okay what did I accomplish. What what did I accomplish the things that I didn't accomplish? Okay why did I accomplish it. Because the goal was to far too big or was because I really didn't apply myself or was it because maybe it wasn't a good goal at all in the first place and then he starts all over again. I thought that's pretty fucking smarter. Maybe we should think about doing that. That it is and all that is a pretty interesting way to set goals. I I really never thought I'm I'm not really good with Maybe I should. Maybe this is a self fulfilling prophecy when I say I'm not really good at podcast that I'm not gonNA. I'm not really good at setting goals but I really do have a hard time because I feel like it puts me in a pressure packed the position to try to reach those goals. Now I'm not saying that that's a bad thing but I like to enjoy what's going on. I I you know life is not a destination. It's a journey. They really like enjoying the journey. It's kind of the same thing I've talked to. Jj about this many times about hiring coach or getting somebody in position to to kind of to help motivate you or inspire you to get to the next level and it's like I know I'm going to get there and I feel like I'm not looking until I'm ready for accountability. I don't want accountability. Yeah until until I'm actually ready to sign up for it and the couple things about coaching or goal setting that that have a challenge for remade especially when it comes to coaching. Is that number one. Somebody's kind of There to check up on you but the second thing is you're paying money somebody checkup on you. So it's almost almost like It's a double edged sword for me so I don't like to spend the money and I don't want to be held accountable. I WANNA be. I WanNa hold myself accountable for stuff. Well I agree I. It's it disavowed. Anyway I agree and I WANNA I WANNA have fun of my journey but I like to have fun with more money in my pocket too. So you know that's the we. We need the balance. I think there's a good balance and we do have We have some additional expenses that we've taken on turn key that are You know for next year her. You know some investments that we've made that mean we've gotta bring more cash in. I mean I was just thinking about that the other day. The the the commitment that we've made made to this. It's it's pretty significant. Actually I know I know. It's pretty significant. I totally agree with you. I did it. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA blame it all on you. I did it because you I I said to you. Here's here's here's the reason why. I don't think we should do it and you were like. Yeah Yeah I agree with you and we get on the phone with them in your you completely change your mind. I'm like Oh district on the other side of this now like yeah I know I know I know we have to have things. Things like like diversification in areas that we can shelter our money from not in the League in an in an illegal way but shelter legally from from tax liability. But it's like dude. I'm just trying to pay my bills right now. Let's like can we get passed the bill paying stage and a saving stage. You know. I'm in a different part of my life and maybe you are or maybe I'm not maybe we're in the same exact position but it's like you own a house and I have own houses in the past and I wanna own House again. I'm like now we just put this investment strategy in place where I'm like jeeze. He's now this really does take. This has to take a priority even over that because this is a commitment that we made to do it or we lose it I E ee. Let's let's see what happens with turnkey sales have written here in the check so I still I totally. I'm curious to see what happens a turnkey with us here with sales and profitability. Because I still completely agree with the principal and the idea deorbit. I just don't know if the amount that we might have been a little aggressive. That's the only thing I'm Marie considering. Is that made a little more but can you talk. Can you talk with our investment. Strategist and you guys figured out and let me know. I'm happy to go. You know I always say this. I'm happy to go along with anything that you agree area and I did I I really did because I was thinking. Oh okay with that. got a little bit more room here. I don't really have to worry about it. And then like shit story moms now. I'm going to think about. I'm going to give them a call. It happens I I'm not blaming not blame not blaming you at all not at all I just I just get to the point where I say okay. Is this a good goal and then I figure all right well you guys know what you're doing too so it's I'm just one one part of the equation. I'm just the guy that's that's doing the selling but I'm not the person that actually keeping the clients clients or all that other stuff you kind of work with backend systems and if we don't have a good back end system then we're not gonNA keep our clients anyway so it's like oh no we have to have a good front end bring in clients and we have to have a great back end where where you're actually maintaining and doing what we need to do for the clients all the stuff I need to get matt and show in gear and then we'll be fine. They can help us. Let's bring a lot more money and I think we just have to have right those well. I always talk about this all the time about those hit. Those hidden gifts Ed podcasting is offered in one of the big ones is the is the joint venture partnerships in the relationships. That we've built just like any good business. It really isn't just about bringing in customers in the front door and maintaining and servicing them properly. Yes that is a critical component to having a successful business. But it's all the other opportunity that you've created when that you create when you're doing those things so important too so Yeah I agree. I agree All right do you want to Any other topics that you WanNa talk about or do you want to wrap up. I have an appointment with funk fans bring up just for anybody that will be in the La area next weekend we are one week away from our a a turnkey podcast get together. All of our team is getting together in. La and you've guys can come meet US any listeners. Who are in the La area or if you WANNA fly to the La area drive the La area? Saturday what's the name of the place we're going to the TIKI bar Saturday afternoon. It's called the Purple Orchid Saturday the fifth of January at four. PM We'll be there from four to five. At least maybe five thirty who knows. We'll probably reporting episode. And if you happen to be in the La area this is Los Angeles it's in El Segundo right. It's actually going to. I'm I'm GonNa give you the Purple Orchid Elsa Gundel I'm GonNa give you the the link for that seek input but They are at two twenty one richmond. Just nice showers in the in one. Oh that's just unbelievable. By next week we may be talking about Monday. Dot Com also. It should be exciting. That's our new project management software that we're still working being on the details. Marjorie is feverishly working with Monday. Dot Com to set it up for our turnkey so we can get rid of the spreadsheet because I know you hate spreadsheets. Well it helps us to Joe Definitely considerably give it makes my job makes my job easier if I have less stuff to do. Hold on a second and for some reason I can't I can't walk and Chew Gum at the same time. So hold on just GONNA PUT I. They only have a facebook page. I don't I don't understand why places can't have like stool. These are good. Picking good drink pig drinks drink pictures right in front of yet have. Have you ever been into a bar. That's got the The little bit cooler almost like the The tap it's got bigger meister but it's exclusively an APP thing. That's what this in the background of this photo. Yeah here's all the information it's going to be right on our facebook page Yeah fifteen thousand. Two hundred eight eight people loncle three. PM To two a M. We won't be so they don't even open until three so we're GONNA get there like an hour after they open so it'll probably be pretty dead. That's good yeah yeah all right so that is again is that Saturday. I don't know my counter. Whatever wait are we doing? Yeah next Saturday the Saturday a week. Not Tomorrow Okay. Yeah that looks looks like hold on a second. I can verify that more when my calendar here that is sh got you know if if things would just work better you know online. I just have no wait you know. Saturday is the fourth okay. This Saturday is the fourth is in your brand new Mac. Just like doing everything for you. You don't even have to think anymore. I'll tell you something. I did. Click on a speed test and my upload speed now that I'm actually hardwired wired in is over three hundred my download speed. I still don't get it. My download speed is still around twenty five. That's I guess that's okay. I'm sorry my download speed need is three hundred twenty. Five three hundred is yet so that would be on Saturday. Saturday January fourth Saturday January four o'clock Pacific Time El Segundo. We'd love to see all their anybody that wants in fact will buy. Hey drink for anybody that comes by. Wow okay we'll by everybody. Wow we are really so and you think we're going to record an episode at the at the Purple Orchid. Your ear your Puerto Vallarta Right. Yeah totally totally. I think we did that last year from From Rocky dish down in Manhattan beach. Yeah it was pretty loud but yeah we did do that excited. I'm actually shows up. Let's check out of here. Happy New Year. 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Ep. 304 - Talking with Australia's Biggest Crypto News Source

CRYPTO 101

37:14 min | 8 months ago

Ep. 304 - Talking with Australia's Biggest Crypto News Source

"All override. What is up all you good beautiful wonderful citizens of CRIP nation? It's your host Bryce Paul and we have a special announcement If you guys have been tuning in you will know that. We have the Crypto twenty twenty summit that we are hosting this is going to be January twenty ninth to January thirty first we got over sixty of of the biggest baddest speakers in crypto presenting on their projections for twenty twenty with their projects are going to be doing all sorts of fun forecast forecast. It's going to be amazing. And the best part of it all is it's free and it is online so go head to. Www Dot crypto twenty twenty summit Dot Com and register for your free ticket and we hope to see their. What's up crypt nation this pizza? It's a mind here. Bryce is letting me go first today. brice how're you doing. Ma'am I am. I graciously giving you the talking. Stick Dick I but yes super excited. We were joined by a gentleman and a scholar Alec Saunders the CEO and founder of Nuggets News. which is Australia's Israeli? As biggest. Biggest CRYPTO news source Alex welcome to the show. Thanks so much for having ause looking forward to get into everything today you yeah you know with every dark night. There is a new dawn and the dark knight was me getting scammed out of a ton of money but the dawn was. I happen. Happen to run into you as you were doing coverage of it and said Hey I know who this guy is. You know. It'd be really cool if I got a chance to talk with more in depth about some some good things going on in Crypto in the world and you were gracious enough to take me up on that invitation. So welcome to Crypto one. Our listeners are known as crypt nation nation and they are good citizens and indeed but they're not very technical might be just getting into crypto and blockchain so we really need need our guests to keep things at a high level. And you're so good at that on your channel or sixty thousand subscribers already so The conclusion this podcast God. Can you guys definitely need to go. Check out nuggets news on Youtube and listen to all the wonderful insight that Alex has been delivering to space search for several years. Now almost going on three years. Is that correct. Yeah publicly on an innovative source. We've been doing this since two thousand twelve. Wow Okay so how did you get into crypto. And why did you decide to start nuggets news so my story starts back around university so is is a studying pharmacy and I'm still qualified pharmacists. But on parents guide me some shares from my twenty first birthday which happens if Beijing two thousand eight which must your review is now is the financial crisis so that little portfolio lost half valley and my parents Tafa value of retirement funds SORTA said to them. He's decided to weld reinvesting works. Pay someone to lose. How fat money are knocking? Do better than that so I wanted to learn about shares and that really took me down the rabbit. I hope because I had a good love of Sohn's and mass. Oh ready and I just love the why investing what the options all the derivatives markets. So yeah the kind of the gold bug once you learn how banks debt and money works. I definitely think I'm sure we'll get into it. That is Something that he's coming So I became a Golden Silvo documentaries some wonderful education out there on Youtube and whatnot and that led me to Bitcoin. Twenty Two thousand twelve zero hedge. There was an article and I think it was only one video on youtube at the time about what he's going and I must have watched that over and over again. And just I just clicked with me straightaway that everything else we had digital in instant. We had small fines But you could. You could send money to other. People not traveled lot an odd. Had that issue. When you WANNA send two hundred dollars to England's for example Lived there for years played cricket and that used to cost you fifty dollars Olas to sit in two hundred dollars and then the exchange rate that give you that rebuffed another ten percent so all these stuff just made sense to me. I just knew it was a matter of time and then in two thousand thirteen. We had that I run up. Two thousand dollars in crashed in October. One of the people that got scared by crashes on a maybe it was because of the financial crisis but I always always wanted to buy the Obviously that Oh worked out really well and then in two thousand seventeen. All my friends and family had thirty people at that stage. The following US ed Adamy till this facebook group said tweety conversations about Bitcoin That will popping up. And that's when I started making videos every diaa just get more and more questions and comments and side than on end up doing VDI everyday just about the nearly three years and we have premium in height light services. We do as well for extra education that people that want extra content. That's awesome and it's a really good story and I think a lot of people have come into crypto. Kinda kind of the same way you know got burned through the financial crisis or you know they saw this quantitative easing in money printing high inflation rates. And all this kind of stuff and they're there's gotta be another system So I I think that that story probably resonates with a lot of a lot of crypt nation. Here but you know kind of taking a step back. I mean you. Keep a sharp eye on a lot of different areas whether it's market movements or you know regulations different coins coming out. So is there one thing that excites you currently currently in this current market about crypto. Just that excites you. More than anything else offshore so one of the angles that we went for will actually actually. I've never really told. Many people doubt before so before nuggets news it was cold world news ends. The focus was always macroeconomics and finance and everything that was going on as you he said with Qa and negative interest rates just started if you easy and people would just thought this was the most foraged ever an odd never locked. Economics never even studied in in highschool. But I'd really got into Australia economics in how this all works ends. I think that is still the most exciting team crypto and at the moment way going through another allow Rally that we had during the middle of the year I could. Maybe that'd be lighter Please do the jomie going to that. Now Yup Yep I guy so I think at the time we're in Alabama which is becoming more most similar to twenty fourteen twenty fifty because the direction and everything that's happened happened Many shorts and sorry much leverage trading in a lot of the volume. It'd be taken out of the market and a lot of people tried to to show at Doc. seeks Kite was that was a big resistance and a DVD at the time saying the number of shorts is going really hot here in all we have to do is get some wiles to pushes through that. And it's GonNa be short squeeze and next thing you know that squeezes all the way the Tin Chi and again we had more people jumping and tron short the Martha just thinking. That's not why it'd be coining. The holidays is unnatural. And all of a sudden we've squeezed all the whites of forty thousand because at that stage far Markian sneaking bayrock. It's ever of getting getting the next the next stock who's GonNa one hundred thousands and now that's just kind of all on winding again so Necessarily to three May maybe down to five or six but in the grand scheme of things. That's Oh sued the healthy soon upwards trajectory coming out of Along the ban market big. They getting back to your original question. The most exciting thing what's happening. Globally in the macro sense of the moment is that central banks promised everyone the one that Kuwait it'll be stuff was temporary. The money printing the negative interest rates. The market believed them and then the Fed had to do a huge Utan at the end of last seeing when stock markets crashed a now since. I've pulled that extra money out of the system. You've probably read these headlines about the Raipur markets and again. That's pretty complicated. Get stuff but all it means is. There's not enough money that satisfy what the banks need to shore up the books and a lot of the bags and pension funds of got all that money Johnny Nash trying to get us and returns than buying up lots of bonds. And there's not a lot of cash None of us Dole is on in that system so we had a little bit of a scare in September. But I think is biggest gay coming at the end of this month and there's been some good rupp's about that recently and just lost not the UH Chairman Paul cities urban to maybe buying more taught of bonds and this is basically almost guaranteeing that they're about to start Qa full and so with the Stating that Bitcoin Price Gouging Silva had a great run. And now that's being unwinding again. I think the market in everyone around the world. It's just sort of pausing and saying what what comes next because if we're going deeper into negative interest rates in the money printing sought was about study in and it never even really really finished in some countries that stuff as I say he is going to be rocket fuel so declining Golden Silva Yeah. We just saw report the other the day. And you know we're dating this episode by mentioning it but a joint bank mentioned just how fragile the current Fiat system is and that it could see potentially a digital asset basically a takeover of Central Bank digital assets by twenty thirty. What do you think about that? And what are some the fallouts and potential cataclysmic fallouts worldwide before that happens. It's just so interesting. Because they sort of conspiracy theories you can call them around fees that how the dollar is getting crash at the moment with everything happening the kind of I think it's the cleanest dirty shirt in the laundry and everyone's GonNa need. US stolas to pay down the debt before the US Dollah on wants because of all the debt that eat has itself right when you look at what's happening like these X. Federer's have championed coming out and saying buy gold and Janet Yellen says there's not going to be across snell off time in a year later. She's talking about the next recession. We say Bank of England mark. Connie saying the. US Dole has too many privileges as the world reserve card. See we need a new digital system as you. You said Deutsche Bank Credit Suisse the meth always coming out and like talking these language. Where something's GonNa Change all the central banks buying gold at the same time trying to regain nate go from overseas summing biggest brewing and amazing only the people that have to upper try confidence incidence by literally side that one of the tools is for coal but it's basically just talking inside that everything's GonNa be good because if I said everything's going to be bad that's a self perpetuating cycle bad sentiment? That's all want so. I definitely think it's Disharmony Cermony Todd's telling that something is coming and do you also look at the inverted yield curve as well as like kind of a telltale sign that you know a a recession could be impending and then kind of a follow up to that is a downward move in global equities net positive for a currency like bitcoin or for an asset like bitcoin. I think the yield curve invasion may be less relevant. It's Baiting in the past because interest rates was soy log facade long so if interest rates were at five percent or seven percent and then you get the yield curve. The it's a little a different to what we've had lightly with interest rates being sweeps in three percent and then invest I still think it's significant may be slightly different The two previous recessions the US is chugging along a lot better than a lot of other countries so yeah. I'm not sure what's what's what happened. I think people are waiting to save. They're gonNA put more money because at the moment. The stock market is detached from the real economy and this places like Australia's in retail recession recession. And if we didn't have high immigration rights the real economy would be in recession but the stock market is about to get record hot and I think it will because they're talking about starting. Qa money printing industry for the first time. So when you look at what's happening around the world the US is assigned story. It's all widening inequality polity because all that money is just pumping asset process particularly Real Estate Bonds. So I don't necessarily think we're GONNA have a crash. Actually I keep just flooding more and more money into the system and if we did have a crash on I think bitcoin would probably sell off just like go south initially but once the dust settles then of people got will. What did I do and again? They're going to do what they've always done. Pre money and low interest rates. And that's fronts GonNa Rush to God because I actually tend to agree with that even though they say that you know Bitcoin is une correlated with equities. It it seems that in a risk off market. You're not going to go to a risky asset like bitcoin. Yeah I mean I could be wrong and it all depends on the nature of how plays out because nobody likes being scared. And as you said if there's anything that's unknown in Okinawa rushing to that asset that. They don't know how it's going to perform but if these kind of unwinds slowly and is more and more of the money printing in it's all kind of very clear where this is going to go. There may be people. Start to trickle into the coin in Detroit is a guy mock it two years. Voting shorting I O oh stop fleet positive in sought to push it up in like in Crichton a narrative that between east the of the people go to in these happened so maybe it does go up on. I'm not I'm not to sauce. That's why you huddle long-term. Yeah exactly. No that's actually a great point. I mean since the markets are show illiquid and easy to manipulate I it's it's very thinkable that the trends could there the tides could shift. I'm slowly but I mean I kind of moved on from Bitcoin a little bit more torch just block chain in general I mean there's so many great use cases of blockchain but they don't really require sometimes a cryptocurrency our utility token to be attached to them so so what is your view on the macro view of coins. Do you think that there's a future for most of these things and are there one or two coins that maybe you think do have a future as a message from the style has always been at ninety nine on ninety nine point nine percent of these GonNa file at at the moment is probably ten thousand. Different group does was smart contracts. So just blockchain's so that's still leave you with a hundred or more good the projects. So that's what we try to and presently I ended up ask daddy and that's very very small percentages of mice in Bitcoin debiting a crm as well. So I've always believed that the succeeded the ones that actually need to be centralized in. They need censorship resistance. Take the long list of things that comes with a blockchain so way way voiced hinted towards in what happened in twenty seventy nine the the project that performed the best. What are the ones that got the most hot from on the best exchanges? But they're all down onto knob now because that doesn't really have any drivers yet and what was starting to say is something like day for now. That wasn't even a word. When women covering projects like Synthetics Micah zero x older day five projects caught by that people now loving and have been the best performance because they needed to be centralized that had good teams I could tech? They didn't really spend money on marketing. Getting listed on good exchanges and that's all coming to the forefront and he can say it in the real steps about the amount of ace that's locked up in these in who's who's using them and remember this is showing Bam and he says Oh. Every day we breaking records Happening in all these little projects so other things lock again DAHLEM decentralized computing power centralized file storage. Anything that actually needs to be. Decentralized is in these projects have been around for three or four years. Quoting the background and now they're getting recognized Decentralize insurance on nixes mutual was a project we have on the podcast last week. A lot of people don't WanNa put them money in day five because they're worried about the smart contract risk so now you can actually get that insured side all well. It's it's the Lego that they call it. This is happening on the theory. So it is sort of things really excite me but I'm definitely not a maximum Anyone can argue that. There's not hundreds of projects. Thousands of the best developed is around the world working on other things that aren't bitcoin. 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I know they would definitely like to think that they are but whatever creates talking points and more clarity. Some people believe that All all publicity is good publicity. I don't think we necessarily believe that over here though You mentioned that you know without immigration. There would be a recession in Australia. The right now but what's the legal. Climate like four crypto. Is it growing is it. CL- clarity Australia. What's the state of Crypto in the Land Downer? Yeah so it's been pretty widely used actually for a number of years now well ahead of the US now in bear markets. Nobody really likes to spend eight group. uh-huh now but in twenty thirty forty knows. A website popped up code living-room touchy and you could pay any bill in Australia. Doc with bitcoin enough added about a dozen other coins now but transferred someone else's Bank a dentist bill by bill pay credit card off in the. NFL is just fantastic in. I think I want to start up business to strike the following year so along with that and the you know in this like a bit of a middleman middleman. So there's lots of Qods we can spend decrypt are but there's a company in the middle will now is GonNa step further where traveled Ahead of them on ans- investing sure Yes we wrote. APPER has been able to every shelf at Brisbane able now accepts Gupta directly southern Middleman cod or a website or a price Asa mentioned in about three hundred of the mistrial. Now that a directly accepting crypto A lightning lightning network up and running and travel by being a really try to push this tourism narrative. Hot So if he doesn't account to Ustralia you can ring them up Pisces. Lots of home addition. You toured the Aria race. Hyphen that all be That's unbelievable Sounds like Australia might be the next leader of the free world because here in the the United States we try and go forward and just run into roadblock after roadblock for roadblock and there's there's no there seemingly no oh end in sight if you use the congressional hearings with Mark Zuckerberg is any kind of way to gauge the level of progress in the United States. I don't don't think even ten percent of our senators have taken the time to know what bitcoin or cryptocurrency has yet. They're just too absorbed in their own agendas. Unfortunately unfortunately that's probably the positive side of things if we want to get to the negative I think around security tokens for example. They'd trading knows the same as any securities so this good regulation framework there if you WanNa stick to it where to be grise around the ICR's what's utility ability tycoon non fungible targeting as the things that I get off after the regular ends. It's still a little bit. Mickey intensive just a currency artsy is some pretty good laws in. It's pretty clear around those ones as well but at the moment as we speak. I was just listening to this Aria e you just mentioned the wine with Mark Zuckerberg in because industry. Is it proposing these ten thousand dollar cash band and they they want to apply to Cryptos well. So I don't a high compulsively applauds group dive at anyway but the way though the negative interest rates the I think it coming to Australia you've seen the banks in the news. The royal commission all the scandals going on there. It's just crazy to made it gonNA be mole laws to force people to US banks who the bag who've Judge with phase the crime rates have been decreasing nod evidence decide that the black markets out of control all the damn all the money laundering. It's been in. The news is happened through casinos. So again it's the banks in the casinos. These guys have been targeting peaking on the little tradesman crypto enthusiasts of the the ones that need to be cracked down on a night already talking that dropping net for ten thousand dollars down to two thousand dollars so my grandparents are in the east. Attach and is really frustrates. Me where this is all going and the narrative that I present is so far from the truth it's described seems like A. We'll have a lot in common. Still trying to come up with a crazy conspiracy theory as to what the overall goal is for negative interest rates and and having so many currencies collapse you know wise the system so broken. Why are these people are supposed to say everything's fine now finally bringing everything's not fine and what what is going to come out of this? You know are they going to let society plunge into chaos before saving us with some incredibly draconian system that plunges the rest of the world into something that looks communist China even though they still call it democracy and freedom. I really wonder it's interesting. You say that yesterday Australia. We got downgraded for the first time on in terms of the Civil Liberties I think is is the United Nations or Assam Global Group that puts out these send-off yes strategies. There is now losing its civil freedoms we have cameras that monitoring us in the cities the trialing some of the stuff that happens in China of encryption ban with China making it illegal to encrypt things and they want companies to keep the government back doors. If they ask so yeah I would have never thought what would happen to feel easy guy on the fest. Everyone probably thinking about the future. Possibly leaving outside of Australia down in. Tasmania out of the way. But I I really would love today in a position that a lot of people in these in these countries and the inequality ones that again takes away Freedom he can't afford to move away so does does wire me where this is going. I don't think we're GONNA have a collapse like a Mad Max. Stahl scenario the art the government would just feed and despoil these assets in print all this money before collapsed kind of what they're doing the housing market at the moment because the alternative is just that so much worse for them if that if that happens if we have the complete collapse so I think for the first time if the people are pushing back. It's what we say with these populist movements yellow vis a vis the list of countries where Hussein these half a dozen now lost last night in Sydney we had twenty thousand plus people protests because we built these really bad bushfires industry the prime minister now late is basically saying. They don't believe anything to do with climate. Change that I believe that any of these. If there's nothing they could do to challenges and not even willing to give more money to the Faris that need it and people listen angry at all. Ladies of the moment I feel like they. Don't they listen to his country. Reason is social media. People have got a voice now and I think as movements Cammisa and that's maybe wanting politicians didn't say coming we've talked to some other guests on the podcast recently about the potential future sure of digital nation states where you might be a citizen of a theory or assistance of CRYPTO DOT com. Where there's no real need for these borders and a potential potential uprising against these failing legacy systems and government models could potentially lead to You know these blockchain projects Having more influence over our lives than we ever thought they could but in a good way between decentralized governance and deploying something like that on a massive scale with like libra trying to do I think it really opened. All of our is that you know maybe the biggest use case in Crypto that killer use case that we're all looking for wondering about how could be the actual freedom of humanity itself. Not just our finances. What do you think about that Yeah definitely a great to some degree on like Mike. Vitale A massive libertarian. But you've got the OSCO who pays for the schools on the roads in hospitals. So what is the tax system GONNA look like does it change to some universal basic income. And you may be just a bisi tax to leave the country intrigue rather than income tax because like contract. Everything that's going on at that stage normal people are moving to places like Mulcher or the Portugal's Hong Kong's maybe not Hong Kong so much now that you know what I mean with just friendly a tax havens and these digital mad. Everything's he's going down. This path of technology and software online businesses entrepreneurs. So why would someone continued to leave in Stryer Pie. These high tax rates in individual tax rights and based subjected to Alesi for Rosen Freedoms when I can move to just about anywhere and live comfortably blake particularly if you've made money Yet sorry much bang for your buck. You know these other developing nations. You can go there and be superwealthy so I think it's a really tough prospect prospect governments have facing and we've actually seen it in all of these countries you guys probably say. The statistics were wealthy. People in CEOS and whatnot they kinda getting out while the going's thanks Gordon. Moving to these other places. Oh yeah one hundred percent I mean I I remember Back in two thousand seventeen. Everybody was talking about moving to Puerto Rico for the act. Twenty twenty a to deal where you could basically not have any capital gains and you could start businesses for one or two percent income tax and all sorts of stuff like that hat but then everybody was like Oh wait no the market crashed. I'm going to stay here in right off capital losses the next year so it was pretty crazy but You know Kinda Kinda taking a look towards the future here we go to To close out you know what trends did you see. Unfolding in the CRYPTO markets. Kind of in the near term. Twenty twenty You know kind of a side. I think we already touched on defy quite quite a bit like a aside from you. Know more defy projects in more defy or locked up in defy. Are there any trends. That you're kind kind of hearing that will be unfolding. Yeah I mean just quickly again but I think if we go down that path of negative interest rates this once we have more more friendly apps where people can earn that interest in is probably not going to stay at ten percent annually because more people will be doing it. But if it's really the easy for someone to download an APP with that you know the Celsius will the block file decentralized ones which I think that's absolutely massive drive once once the average passing can pocket money Narran smartphone APP noon interest in. I don't even know that this crypt behind that on top of that I mentioned insurance. I think that's pig supply chains. That's always been one that I've been bullish on with starting to see that now I'm interviewing. Hi and soon pinfolds which just one of Australia's largest wine companies are now using some of that giant technology. So the that opens up Global Commerce Africa Rica India days of the places where they don't have fine lines but they've got smartphones. They don't have banks but they are about to have a bank. He count on a mobile phone. And if they're your Blaga in Iran or if you're in one of those developing nations you've got a good idea if you wanna work for for someone on a two thousand Allah do Having to pay other people ten or twenty dollars an hour in the west this is really going to open up all these tasks economy. And that's the things that really saw me. Yeah I think that's a great insight I know there's a couple. Companies in Crypto that are trying to bring UK Bank accounts on mobile phones to people in Africa should be really interesting to see that progress over the next couple of years. But there's a few other questions that we wanna ask you still and is your questions that we ask everyone because it's so interesting to hear the different answers. All the time was one person that you really admire in the crypto space. You've seen so many come and go. Who really sticks out to you above all the this is one of the things that actually really disappoints me? That crypto is is that there's not that many think. Andreas a had him on the other day. And he's just brilliant and he tries to stay unbiased and writing a book about out of Syria when everyone thought he was maximalist. Oh that bitcoin goes delays at Lotta guts so yeah he's probably the If you don't follow anyone that you just getting into definitely follow him but other guys gray but I just think it's disappointing. We say people like Richard Hot for us to might be going. I'm doing that. The Hicks Theme Raja Verse Gone Down. He's on Pathan. He's allowed to do that. I encourage free markets experimentation but all these infighting in toxicity and all these people should be laid using the spice. It's wanting disappoints me that we don't have that many people to adopt it. I would agree with you but I would also say that that. There's a new influx of people and they're not crypto. OJ's that have become jaded by all these different things and now just kind of clutch to what they know. Their life depends ends on it but there are people that are ex Goldman Sachs that are ex Nassau that are you know former associate. Deans at Columbia University and Stanford Grads ads and things like that. That are getting into the space that have a whole fresh perspective on what crippling blockchain can do for the world and A Different Code of ethics as well that I think we're going to see some new heroes emerge. I really do. Yeah hype and hype. That snowed under a false. Oh spray tans Trying to later on down the path of products in digos good if it's on Whoa Straits rates and and down that path does die. The the libertarian route. Yeah it's GonNa be a mixed bag. We see some things that are both. Um I'm you know one name that comes to mind. Is Ed Felton from off chain. Labs to name. You've probably never heard of from a company you've probably never heard of. This guy was the former. CTO Of the White House could literally work for anyone who wants to in the world. And he wants to work in Crypto in blockchain and then there's a guy named tyler spalding whose X. Nassau as more patents right and I have friends and he's now building a payment rail system that bypasses bank so retailers can accept crypto really easily so there are definitely some heroes left on our side that the light just hadn't shine in the sky yet but it's coming y'all yeah I I I definitely sleeping than The beast yet but Yeah it's it's tough Thompson. The hundred percent agree. And you know another question that we like to ask people. Is You know. Besides his any companies that you're invested in you know what's one company that you think is GonNa have the biggest impact in Crypto in say the next one or two years No one speaks out at the moment to be honest. I still think it's the like it's just boring to cite bitcoin or a theorem but they platforms that. I've been to everyone the tempted network effects. That's where the biggest opportunity is and what you're saying with. The smaller projects is that they can get maybe coding to Congress. Oh opaqued on. All of these projects have had a lot of issues shoes. That were the Athenian culas and will not site that at les stupid that I mean for band AIDS continues to get eager. Be Guests are is one company company. I mean I don Shula Australia but I love what college were doing. It's another industry. Where if we had a Centralized energy grid is a lot of problems is to have to solve Trials in India Japan and fossil fuels. Renewables I mean that is just a famous counseling headlines Globally and if there's unloaded companies in these industries well. I shouldn't decide college. But if that sort of decentralized energy grid can lead to a renewable energy boom Naven bitcoin mining he studied into drives renewable energy technology That's that just be so also meet. That could come from. The crowd is spicer's sort of a grain revelation. Yeah yeah definitely and I guess the last question that we have for you today is this was the very first podcast. Someone getting into the space heard what would you want them to know about. Getting involved in MM crypto the tie you need to take your time. Everyone raids about I WanNa buy that day. I think it's processing the takeoff without them. MM-HMM THEY WANNA get rich if the price is enjoying much thou goan such how to make money Stumble across old scams. That is definitely something. That's holding the industry back at the moment the Tikey Thanh to learn and because what we think it's going to it's going to continue to grow of many many years and and If you rush chances are you probably up. What you doing this? S few months. And you'll be. She had taken Utah very well said Alex. Thank you so much for being on the show today. we're really excited to also see your presentation at the Crypto Twenty Twenty Summit Where you're going to be talking about the four things to watch in twenty twenty awesome? Thanks much young US keep up the good work our pleasure and again. Ah where can people find if they want to contact you with more questions or information so now gets news on you cheap Alex Saunders on a tweet up or nuggets news dot com that I use for everything we do. Wonderful thank you so so much. We'll talk to you again soon. Thanks guys choose. CRIP nation just a friendly neighborhood reminder to go to. Www Dot crypto twenty twenty summit Dot Com and register for your free conference pass to the Online Summit Kripa Twenty twenty seven it. We got sixty speakers who are given their bold predictions for prices and bold predictions for a technological legal developments in this crazy crypto space. 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How Electronic Communication Gets You in Trouble & The History of Your Favorite Halloween Candy

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How Electronic Communication Gets You in Trouble & The History of Your Favorite Halloween Candy

"Today on something you should know some simple proven ways to de-stress one. Just requires you listen to a particular song from nineteen seventy two then electron of communication like texting Email is good for something's bad for others. You can never ever ever do anything truly important or changing via Email. You can't fire. Somebody can't hire. Somebody can't break up with them on a mentally chicken, arted and Weasley don't do it. Plus, why do some people like sweet snacks some like salty snacks and others like both and with Halloween approaching? You'll hear the fascinating stories behind some of your favorite Halloween candy's. The reason why reese's peanut butter cups became so popular. It's because they have this unique taste and the reason for this is actually caused by an accident. All this today on something, you should know. If you're a regular listener to this podcast. You know, we've talked about the idea that we're also connected to current events and to our bosses and co workers and loved ones. And yet as connected as we are at the end of the day were somehow more isolated than ever. Well, the logic Woodlock hopes to change that they strongly believe it sometimes you need to disconnect in order to reconnect. The logic would lock is an all inclusive destination spa at truly feels worlds away. Even though it's just a short drive from New York City, Philadelphia and Washington DC, they're long list of awards speak for themselves. The logic Woodlock has this philosophy of personal awakening by helping guests. Take a step out of their day to day routine and reconnect and discover passion and hobbies that ignite their spirit. They return home ready to connect with themselves. And loved ones in a meaningful way. 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Smelling coffee or citrus fruit helps to de-stress you by creating balance between your nervous system, brain chemistry and hormones eat. Honey, researchers in New Zealand confirmed that long held belief that among its many healing properties. Honey, reduces anxiety and calms the mind have a good laugh or a cry. Both stimulate the Vegas nerve, which reduces the levels of cortisol the stress hormone in your blood and increases serotonin production in your brain, a good laugh, also boosts your energy and a study shows that it may improve short term memory as. As you get older run cold water over your wrists by dripping cool water on pressure points on your wrist and splashing it. Behind your ears. You cool the arteries right under your skin taking the heat down a notch and calming your entire body. Listen to birds real or recorded, the sound of birds in the wild can have a restorative effect on you, and although there is no scientific evidence. We can find people swear that listening to the nineteen seventy two song. I can see clearly now by Johnny Nash can have instant stress reducing effects and make you more optimistic. And that is something you should know. Think for a moment about how you communicate with people throughout your day. I suspect more of it is not face to face than is face to face is telephone Email texting social media, even notes in memos on old fashioned paper. But the point is that it's not face to face, and that can lead to miscommunication, misunderstandings, and real problems between people that could be avoided. If you understand the strategies that make virtual communication more precise. And here to explain it is communications expert, Nick Morgan, he regularly appears on CNN, and he is author of a new book called can you hear me how to connect with people in a virtual world. Hey, Nick, welcome. Hey, mike. Thanks for having me on your show. It's great to be with you. So I'm sure everyone has misunderstood a text or read something in an Email that the sender. Never intended. So the experience is pretty universal. But it does seem to come with the territory. I mean without without voice inflection or facial cues. We tend to assume we know what the sender is saying, and and sometimes we're wrong. So why do we keep doing the conveniences of virtual communication are so powerful that they're here to stay. The issue is just there is a huge downside that we hadn't been fully aware of. And we're slowly getting aware of it, which is that virtual communication strip out the emotional subtext that were so used to getting face to face. We don't think of it this way but face to face communication is actually very efficient for humans. We get together. And with rolling of the eyes and nodding of the head and smiling and flinching and scowling we we exchange a huge amount of motion emotional information with each other about what are intense are what you think what you're thinking. I'm thinking how I'm reacting to what you're saying. How you're reacting what I'm saying all of that. It's something that humans care about very much. We care about each other's intent. And so what happens in the virtual world is it's much much harder to get that intent to get a clear reading on that intent. And so we struggle. We assume the worst because in a sense, it makes perfect sense for us to assume the worst because that's liable to keep us alive. And so when we don't get information about what the other person's intent is we tend to assume that they're angry at us. So they're hostile. And that's why Email so often get misread. That's why audio conferences so often create hostility amongst the team. And that's why we get trolling in the virtual world because people are assuming the worst were hard-wired to assume the worst. So that we can be looking out for danger. Isn't that interesting that you're right when when you see something written? Down in a text or an Email and it lacks. It's stripped away of all of that stuff. You just mentioned you do read it in the worst possible way. You do one of the unintended consequences virtual communicating is it so officiant is so easy. We've created vast amounts more of it. So we're all all information overloaded as a result. We tend to communicate with shorter and shorter bursts of text and words in an effort to just keep up. And so not only is the affect and the emotional subtext missing. But we're getting more and more telegraphic as we go. And so those one word responses, they just don't cut it. They assume that they make us assume that the other person's angry in like I said in the beginning. I it just comes with the territory. It is what it is. We're hard-wired to assume the negative which leads to misinterpretation. And so what do you do about it? It's just really at base learning a new conversation getting articulate getting conscious about how we're feeling emotionally and getting used to putting that back into the conversation where normally in a face to face conversation, you wouldn't have to. And so I say it all begins with asking the other person. If you don't know the answer to the question, how did what I just say make you feel and that accomplishes two things first of all it's suggests that I care about how you feel and that I care about the impact of what I just said had on you and second of all gives you the space to say something. But I I can think of a lot of cases where that might. Be awkward. I mean, you're almost sounding like a therapist. How does that make you feel in? There are some relationships and communications where that doesn't really lend itself to especially in written communication to end. The you know, how does this make you feel? So so how do you accomplish that the first thing I would say is get used to emojis in the business world. There's several studies that show that we're not quite fully ready to adopt emojis because we see them as sort of for kids or or sort of juvenile, but they actually are I limited attempt to put emotions back in. I like to say about Email that we've been doing Email roughly since the end of World War Two. And the only thing we've really learned since we started is at all caps means you're shouting. That's not much in fifty years. And most of us are not very good writers. And you add to that the fact that we're all moving faster in so typing less and trying to get by with short as possible answers. Then it's really time to start getting a little bit more conscious about putting some of those emotions back in at the very least give me an emotive. Con says whatever what I just said I met with a smile as opposed to a sneer. I have always assumed because because I have been victim of the misinterpreted. Virtual communication. I'm always tried and been conscious of the fact that there's always that potential, which I imagine. It'd be good advice for anybody to to to approach it every time knowing this could be misinterpreted. But my experience is that shorter is not always better. And that that's where so much of the misinterpretation happens is because there isn't enough detail in there, and so it's left up to the reader to figure out what is meant. And as we discussed a few moments ago, we typically assume the worst is that a fair is that a fair strategy. Absolutely. We were still communicating as if we were communicating face to face, and we communicate face to face. I don't have to tell you about my intent. And I don't have to tell you. If I think what you just said hurt my feelings because you'll see that. And I'll see that. And we're still communicating that way, we write as if the other person could sort of Intuit what we're saying. And that's not the case words, don't convey the. Same information as face to face conversation written words, so so absolutely. We need to go longer rather than shorter. We need to go with a motive cons and anything else that will help us Ed emotional context, which gets harder and harder to do as messages get shorter and shorter, it seems and you know, one of the fascinating things to me anyway about how people text and then text back, and oh that's not what I meant. Oh, this is what I meant. Oh, you forgot to answer. This other question that I asked you in the last Email if people just picked up the phone, they could resolve this whole thing in a lot less time than this back and forth and re explained oh you misunderstood. And yet we don't use the phone or we we don't use the telephone part of the phone. Well, yeah. That's right. One of the interesting things about phone these days, it's become more and more seen as an interruption rather than a chance to chat. So something about the nature of our interactions is has accelerated so much that a phone call seems like a big deal. Whereas it's just much easier to send a quick text message or Email message. And yet the problem, of course, is as you note that they're much more likely to be to be misunderstood. And then and then you have the whole process which takes much longer than the original phone. Call would've taken to try to unscramble the mess that you've created. Person created. I'm talking with Nick Morgan. He's the author of the book. 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Once you've written the Email is to read it aloud to yourself, and this only takes a few seconds unless you've written a book and try it in various tones of voice. So read it as if it were Sar cast that can see if that makes any sense or read it as if you were angry and see if that makes any sense, it's very interesting. When you read something aloud you go it's that sounds like that I didn't mean that better at a few words that will clarify my intent. Remember, the key? Here is intent that's what other people care about. And your words don't often convey that very well so reading it aloud as a way of hearing whether what you mean what you intend is coming across. And so that's the first thing to do. The second is to try to put in. Various indications of intendant, I like emojis because they're easy even if they are a bit juvenile. I think in time we'll just get more used to them, and they'll they'll get the respect they deserve in the business world. But until then you can put in descriptions of what your intent is what I mean here is act, and then the other thing is just understand that you can never ever ever do anything truly in deeply important or life changing the Email. You can't fire somebody can hire somebody. You can't break up with them. You can't do a whole list of of emotionally significant things via Email just don't do it pick up the phone see them in person. But don't try to do emotionally significant life significant things. We Email Email is is great for exchanging information for setting up conference calls for for exchanging information of various kinds. It's not great for conveying nuance. I see sometimes I know people. Sometimes who have like family fights via text, and I think this wouldn't have happened years ago. And I'm wondering is is this a trend and will this get worse where people just stop talking to each other? And and and do exactly what you just said not to do and that is have emotionally charged conversations via text. And and what will that do? Certainly going to raise the depression rate in a few other social indicators that were not happy about I'm sure it's a terrible state of affairs. When people are texting each other instead of having significant conversations base face, it just doesn't work as well. And you're absolutely right. I seen especially millennials who prefer to text because they're controlling the conversation. The other person can't reply, and so it feels emotionally safer, but in the long run it's riskier because you're more liable to be misunderstood or to create a misunderstanding. And so it's better to bite the bullet and practice those non verbal skills and talk to somebody face to face, but we've all heard stories of people who have broken up or fired somebody with a text or any of their behavior. It should not be done. It's it's. It's it's a fundamentally chicken arted in Weasley. Don't do it. That's it. That's I love that. It's chicken hearted and Weasley and don't do it. Just don't do it. It's just don't do it. So often the advice as I mentioned before the the advice is that if you can rather than send an Email or a text to the guy in the cubicle next to you get up and go talk to him. I mean that seems like sensible advice. Yeah. Absolutely. And good practice. So you don't your your personal skills? Don't atrophy in this ritual world. Do you think that's happening? Do you think that that personal skills are atrophying because people just don't use them? It does take a little practice to learn how to talk to somebody else a certain amount of our body just instinctive, but some of its practiced in socialized as well. So yeah, if you don't practice, you won't be as good at it. Is there other research into this that that? Has shed some light or has come to some interesting conclusions that you can share one of the fun ones. Is it turns out you're more likely to succeed at work? And in this case, it was particularly the consultants. Team that was studied you're more likely to succeed. In other words, have higher billable hours as a consultant if you use more social words in your Email, which which is assigned social order a sign that you're indulging in chitchat in the Email as well as sticking strictly to business so words like football and coffee, if they show up in your emails, you're more likely to be successful. I think as sort of wonderful and hilarious because the first thing if anybody Reno's emails would think was oh this person's just chitchat. But it turns out surprise surprise chitchat is important for business success. It's the water cooler conversation made virtual right? Well, it's it's important in in face to face communication too. So why wouldn't it translate over into virtual? And there's a there's a further follow up into the study, which is you're less likely in in hard times to get laid off if if you indulge in that kind of. Chitchat and the same with social media turns it, we think of Facebook and the other social media as timewasters things you do to escape from work. But it actually turns out that employees who are affected and create relevance. Social media connections are less likely to get fired than those who don't. And so again, it pays to be social in ways. Of course that are appropriate to the to your business and whatnot. But it's time to stop thinking about Facebook and the other things as timely stars. But think about them as as replacements as you just pointed out in the virtual world for what we used to do or had more time to do face to face. Those things are important. That's the human glue that keeps us together on the downside. There's a straight line relationship between. The amount of time that two segments of the population spend on cell phones, and their likelihood to be depressed, which I find very alarming the two populations that have been studied our teenage girls because I spend a lot of time in cellphones. But also retirees one of the original promises of the virtual world was hey, a retirees can stay in touch with their grandkids or their friends and family around the world. It'll be effortless. They don't have to leave their easy chair to do that turns out doesn't work. They still get depressed, or they're likely to get depressed. The more time they spend on on social media. Well, isn't that interesting? When you think about it that in business being social and being on social media. And using social words is actually good for you and socially, at least as you say, teen girls and elderly people retirees it can have actually have a negative. Effect. But, but those are really just unintended consequences. It's not why it's not the reason why we do or don't use virtual communication or social media. I think is mostly I think it's mostly convenience and just the use of virtual communications. So we don't take into account though, is the what we've been discussing which is the odds that you're going to screw something up and actually making more work for yourself. Well, but what you were talking about before that that people text because they have more control over the conversation. They they they can. You know, a real conversation. Somebody can call you names until you you're wrong and all kinds of things, and and you have to respond right away. But texting is at your pace. That's right. And you can look up the answer come up with a clever respond right in your own time. That's that's the whole as synchronous benefit as they used to say of a virtual communication and something that we all feel you mentioned earlier that audio conferences and video conferences are situations. Where a lot of his miscommunication happens. But with audio conferences, you at least have voice and inflection, which is good. And in videoconferences, you can have voice inflection and facial expressions. So why is it happening there? You're hearing the voice. Yes. But the way voices are condensed over phone lines. And I can explain the technicalities of it. But the short version is they that cuts out a lot of the emotional information that a voice normally conveys, and so it's just a little harder to get emotion on a phone line than it is face to face. Even if you had your eye shut I'm face to face. I mean, the the voice itself doesn't convey as much information. And then if you have a video conference, of course, you're seeing the visual, but remember a video conferences is two dimensional. It turns out a six cents that we have that. We're not consciously aware of something called proprio -ception, which is our unconscious mind spent a lot of time tracking where we are in space, and where the other people around us are in space. We care a lot about that for obvious reasons of safety people get too close to us that we have to track them, very carefully. If people are standing behind us, and we need to know where they are. And so you're appropriate -ception tracks all that. On a video conference. You can't do that effectively because what you're looking at as a two dimensional screen. And so you have no idea where that other person actually is they seem closer than they are for their way than they are very confusing for the unconscious mind. And so that's why we find video conscious exhausting. It's why many people end up shouting at each other on video conferences because I think they're further away than they are. But typically, again, what happens is our threat levels raised because we see people, but we don't off our way they are. And so we tend to assume the worst assume they're crowding are spaces. So you are getting more information than a text. But it's still a very imperfect form of communication, and there's still a lot of emotional information that gets left out you were talking earlier how in virtual communication when we don't fully understand the sender's intent, we tend to assume the worst, meaning, and it just that just happened to me as you know, I we had to postpone this interview because our power was out the other day, and I. Had a document I had to print that day. And so I texted my sister-in-law whose power was on. And I said can I come over to your house in print this document? And she said sure come on over so later in the day, our power was still out. I texted her. I said our power still out. So I'm on my way to print out this document, and she texted back Ono, I'm on the computer. And so what I assume she meant was. Oh, no. You can't come over now. Because I'm on the computer. That's what she meant. At all what she meant was Ono your power still out bad for you. Good news is I'm on the computer I can print it out right now. Had nothing to do with what I thought and what I thought had nothing to do with what she meant. Right. And that such a perfect example because we can easily see both sides of that. And see how it could be misread. And yet we can see what she meant. And you're in you're absolutely right. It's it's completely the tone that conveys different intent depending on on how on how you read that. So I I love that example, at the perfect example of how things go awry so quickly in virtual space. Well, because when I told her how I read it when I saw her she looked at me like how could you possibly have have interpreted that from what I wrote? And yet, I couldn't even imagine that she meant what she meant when she wrote it, so and and this is somebody that, you know, trust presumably the close relation to you. You can imagine how much more easily it is to get things screwed up when we're talking clients or business associates and that kind of. Thing. So this is a great example. Well, given the way we communicate today. I think this is so important for everyone to keep in mind when they're texting and emailing and using virtual communication, so I appreciate it. Nick, Morgan has been my guest his book is can you hear me how to connect with people in a virtual world. And there is a link to his book in the show notes. Thank you. What if the experience of driving a luxury vehicle wasn't limited to just inside your car, but extended out into the world around you. 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It's the candy kids like today. Candy doesn't change much and the stories behind some of the great classic Halloween. Candy are fascinating here to tell. You about them is Darlene lacy Darlene is the author of a great book called classic candy. She also has an extensive candy wrapper collection, which is currently on display at the Los Angeles central library. Hi, darlene. Welcome. Well, thank you for having the on the show on excited to talk about. The history of candy. So as it relates to Halloween went wended, the idea of let's hand out candy to kids who come to the door dressed as goblins. Wh how did that all start? Well, you know, there's tales of how this began in Ireland with people going around asking for candy going door to door. But really as far as it goes in America back at the turn of the twentieth century. There was always Halloween parties, but they tended to be people would come to people's houses. And they would get, you know, some apple cider doughnuts and cookies, and that sort of thing and then slowly, but surely especially during the postwar period, they began handing out candy a little bit more. And when the baby boom hit this is when people really started having their kids dressing up in costumes going from door to door, and it really kicked in and since then there's been no turning back. He does seem over the last several years. Maybe decades now that the trick or treat. Seems to have faded in popularity. Just not as many kids are going out ringing doorbells and collecting candy like they used to. Yeah. It does seem like the whole experience of going from door to door for Halloween. That has really died off the idea of getting candy from strangers really took a hit starting in the nineteen sixties and kind of built up into a frenzy in the nineteen eighties. In terms of concerns about tainted Halloween candy. You started to have these stories. Oh, somebody has what the razor blade and a candy bar or some pins or sometimes even drugs and these stories began to make headlines and this beavered pitch began to build, and it's interesting because really most of those stories have been disproven over time. They turned out to be more just scares and urban legends. So a lot of the concern really was. Isn't all that warranted? And in the nineteen eighties around nineteen eighty two. It reached a fever pitch. In terms of the paranoia hospitals started offering x Ray services to scan the candy for the children to eat it, which I don't know if that's very safe either. And so are there some clear cut favorite Halloween candy's that that everybody can agree on it? It depends on the region. You come from. There was a survey back in two thousand seventeen about the most popular Halloween candy from state to state, and as it turns out New Yorkers love kit. Cats Californians prefer almond joys Texans like three musketeers and Alaskans like Reza's, peanut butter cups. So it just really depends. But those candies are certainly big favorites. And then other candies. Like, candy corn is still favorite. I believe. In Georgia, and you have other candies that aren't chocolate he likes. We dish. Fish can also be very popular. And of course, it's hard to go wrong with gum or bubblegum. But what about those? What are they like those big marshmallow peanuts? Whoever likes those circus. Peanuts are one of those odd candies because they look like peanuts. But there marshmallow and their banana flavored. So you have to really wrap your head around the whole essence of the circus peanuts to really enjoy it. It's definitely a candy that has faded in popularity over the years. But I know people who still love them. So I wouldn't count them out yet one of the things I guess I like about candy is it doesn't change much. I mean, the candy that I liked as a kid is the same candy that kids today like it. There isn't a lot of room for newcomers. It seems. Yeah, that's the interesting thing about candy. Most of the candy. That's popular today was introduced back in the early nineteen hundreds for example, the toothy role which was the first penny. Candy it came out in eighteen ninety six which was seven years. Before the first Ford model, a was produced, and then you have other candies like Hershey kisses. They were made in nineteen oh seven when teddy Roosevelt was president. So when you pick up that piece of candy, you should realize that it's been around for over one hundred years. So let's talk about some specific candies. I mean, I like Snickers bars and butter fingers and reese's peanut butter cups and somebody had to have come up with the formula to create these candy bar. So so where did they come from a lot of the popular candy really came out in the early nineteen hundreds of the nineteen twenties and the and example of that would be reasons. Peanut butter cups. We think of it as a Hershey candy. But you might ask yourself a where does the name Reese come from? And Reese was the name of Harry b res who worked on one of Milton Hershey dairy. So far and as he worked for her. She he became inspired to become an entrepreneur and start his own candy company as well. So he started making different types of chocolate and peanut candies named after members of his family. And then he heard from a supplier that it was. There was a shortage of keynote flavored peanut butter type candy that was covered in chocolate people were demanding it and so Harry Reid's decided to start making peanut butter Cup. And the reason why reese's peanut butter cups became so popular is because they have this unique taste, you know, you might try one from a competitor. It doesn't quite have the same taste, and the reason for this is actually caused by an accident when Harry Reid started manufacturing, the peanut butter cups. He was using old equipment and disa- Quinton. It was slightly burning the peanuts. When. It was roasting them. And here he didn't even realize that this was happening until the peanut butter cups. Started becoming so popular. He bought new equipment and expanded operation when he did that he discovered that the peanut butter cups had lost that magical taste, and so he had to find a way to reproduce it with a modern the Sheena Reyes. So that it kept that special flavor. What about Snickers bars where did they come from, HUD? They get their name. It's one of my favorites. So I I'd like to hear that one some people might know this, but a little bit of trivia about the Snickers bar is that it was named after the Mars family's favorite horse knickers and here in America. We have known the Snickers bar back from when it was introduced in nineteen thirty but overseas in the United Kingdom for the longest time up until the nineteen nineties. It was called the marathon bar, and there's no official reason. Zain to give given to explain this. But the rumor is that the Mars company didn't like the idea that Snickers rhymed with the word knickers the name over there for women's underwear. Well, what an odd thing in our these candies like this knickers bar and the Tuzi role. Are they basically the same as they've always been or have? They changed. Andy has more or less. Stay the same in flavor over the years over the decades until really recent times, we've seen a lot more changes in the recipes of candy bars. A lot of that has to do with the economics of the cost of cocoa. But one interesting story when it comes to a change the recipe is with the butterfinger bar, which is another top Halloween candy. The butterfinger bar was originally made by the Curtiss candy company back in nineteen twenty three and they were looking for a follow up to their hugely popular baby Ruth bar. And so they came out with the butterfinger. It was a huge hit and Curtis candy thrived for many decades. But after a while they sold the company, and then they sold it again. And they sold it a third time to Nestle. In nineteen eighty nine. And during the transfer of ownership, apparently as the story goes the recipe was lost. And so nasty had to frantically look to recreate the recipe. So I can't say as a person eating better fingers back then that I noticed. So I think they did a good job. But this year Nestle has sold the Curtiss candy line yet again to the company that makes kinder- candy and tic TAC, and this company Ferreiro SPA one of the first announcements they made is that they're going to revamp the recipes one more time to improve the flavor. So we'll see how that goes. But hopefully, it'll be good. If it ain't broke don't fix it. I mean, why would you wanna butterfinger to taste any different than a butterfinger? I know well, it's possible that they just felt that Nestle had already kind of weakened the flavor. A bit through some changes. I can't really say for sure, but I have seen this with other. Classic candy where it's been decided, oh, the candy shouldn't be as chewy or the candy shouldn't be as hard. And so you'll see that sometimes just with different trends with candy making the candy companies will proactively change the recipes and being a big fan of classic candy always against that the way it was is there any sense as to why the candies that fade away fade away. Or I it's just you know, it's like restaurants. You know, some make it some don't I mean when I was a kid a good and plenty was really popular. Turkish bomb knows Turkish taffy was really popular. Nobody seems to be that crazy about him anymore. Even if well, I know they make them, but it they just kind of have lost popularity. Do. We know why I have my own theories. About why certain candies have faded in popularity and these candies. They do tend to be ones that are strong in flavor such as liquorice or root beer barrels or even meant have become less popular over the years and often it's candy. That's very chewy or very hard to eat. You know, you had these candy bars like the black cow bar that was meant to be sucked on all day things like that. I think partially the candies that are hard to eat have kind of faded away because of dental concerns, and then also I think the candies with the stronger flavors. It's just a trend. It depends on how you grew up people who are baby boomers or somewhere in that age range, they tended to grow up with more of the old. Drugstore penny candy. That was based on these flavors. You had your peppermint sticks. You had your hor hound drops candies made from molasses and kids these days, they have grown up more with sour candy that seems to be the intense flavor that they're the most familiar with. And so I think is it is with having a taste for anything. Whatever you're introduced to at a young age is something that you tend to appreciate if you try it later on you might be a little growth out by it. I remember the big wax lips that people would chew on. And I don't see those anymore. They are they gone or is just a I'm on the loop. Slips are one of those funny Halloween candy's because they're so improbable first of all they call them candy when they're really not a candy at all. They're basically, paraffin wax, and for people who aren't familiar with them whack slips? They were introduced in the late nineteen forties early nineteen fifties. They were really a baby boomer Halloween candy where they were exactly as you might imagine. They are big wax lips or things vampire fangs or moustache is that children could bite down upon and have a little disguised to wear. And after the kids got tired of wearing them. They can start chewing the wax which had a flavor to it. You could choose like chewing gum. It wasn't exactly the most Alicia gum. But it was something to chew and. Actually, you can still get wax slips these days, but they're not as common you have to find the right store where did three musketeers come from. And why that name and in what is it? There's the funny thing about candy today where a lot of the names of candy. They don't make a lot of sense such as three musketeers why? And the reason is because when see reading Muskateers first came out it came in three pieces, it was three chocolate bars the came in one package, and they were filled with the nila strawberry and chocolate nougat. And that's the story behind three musketeers and his time went on due to again the economy particularly back in the seventies. There was a big sugar shortage and that caused the price of candy to really zoom high. And so the candy company started to console. Holiday to make the candy more economically and three musketeers is one of those bars. Took a bit of a hit and became just one candy bar wasn't the Milky Way bar considered pretty revolutionary when it came out. And then it spawned Snickers and other candy bars the Milky Way bar I came out, and it was this huge hit and the reason for that was because it had new get nougat was a new thing. And there was another candy bar actually called the fat. And that I invented nougat for candy bars and Mars thaw that is an opportunity basically perfected the nougat, and they came out with the Milky Way bar which got its name from the idea that it tasted like, a malted milk, a multi milk milkshake. And so that just took off it became the number one, candy bar and so. They Mars basically stuck with that formula to make candy bars with nougat, but to add a little bit of this track. A little bit of that change the flavoring and has the candy bar line. Is borne any other specific candy story that you think is particularly fascinating that we haven't talked about. I'd like to share as the sad and spooky story of bubble. Yelm, bubble Yelm, which was very popular. Halloween. Candy in the nineteen seventies. Nearly went out of business because it became the victim of one of the biggest urban legends surrounding candy. But William was the first soft bubble gum and people just went wild over it. But then nobody knows how it happened a school yard. Rumors spread that the softness and the gun came from the addition of spider eggs, and people believed that sales plummeted and life savers, the company that made bubble Yelm had to put out a big PR campaign to quell the fears of chewing bubble yell, and apparently these advertisements that they put out in the newspaper did the trick people realize that couldn't possibly be true and bubble Yelm has. Survived to stay. Well, it's really interesting to hear the stories behind candy in the popular Halloween candy in particular. So I appreciate you sharing. All this with us, Darlene. Lacy has been my guest. Her book is called classic candy. And she also has an extensive candy wrapper collection, which is currently on display at the Los Angeles central library. There's a link to her book in the show notes for this episode. Thank you, Darlene. As you can tell from that discussion about Halloween candy. I have a bit of a sweet tooth, but other people they prefer salty snacks. So why the difference why do some people like sweet and other people like salty and some people like both. Well, a lot of it has to do with genetics. Our DNA determines how sensitive we are to certain flavors. Those of us with a sweet tooth may have a higher sweet threshold, for example. So we crave more sugar to satisfy our taste butts. By the way, you have about ten thousand taste buds on your tone, just about everyone is hardwired to succumb to a sweet taste because of what happens in your brain. That's sweet signal gets into the reward center of your brain. Which then makes you crave. More aside from genetics. What you crave today has a lot to do with what you've eaten your whole life. In other words, if you grew up feasting. On potato chips. You're more likely to prefer that same salty taste as you get older. And that is something you should know your rating and review was always appreciate it on itunes, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to this podcast. I'm Mike Carruthers. 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#577: Are You Winging Your Sales Process?

Advanced Selling Podcast

21:34 min | 9 months ago

#577: Are You Winging Your Sales Process?

"In this episode of the Advanced Selling podcast bill shares a new technique for ridding your heart of calcium deposits fact checker. Doug makes a cameo appearance without even being here and we take a good hard look. Look at one of our favorite topics the P. Word process walking back to the the advanced selling podcast episode number one of Twenty Twenty we are the longest running arguably the largest sales training. PODCAST world names. Bill Oh cast. I'm Brian Neal. Welcome Brian Twenty twenty. Thanks we've been thinking about twenty twenty eight longtime how many times have people been talking about you know seen clearly. Everything's coming into focus. Yeah Johnny Nash. Bom Good Good. I heard today that had me had me tappin. My Foot in the car is his freak out. Oh chic by by Sheikh it. Are you sure Les Freak by by Oh Shit slave freak by chic not I freak by Freak by chic. Hey who I talked to the doctor. I don't know I talked to F. C. D. fact checking Doug. Oh you did really good. He sent me a note about out. Leo Sayer ever we talked about. I think I can dance. And he sent me a note and I got back with him and said thanks. We'll use it. And then he sent. I got a reply that had his phone a number on it a perfect. I thought maybe he wants me to call him. Why not so? He didn't like what are you calling. He did not want me to call them and so I called him he goes. Hey Bill Caskey said yeah. Did you want to call you my email on the phone number so he was very appreciative and we had a nice so anyway all all right. So here's a story to bring you want to get right into it or do we want to. Because I mean it's stories. Get health related. Well this story is related to our topic Bacon. Our topic today is how buttoned up is your sales process. and Are you paying attention to the details of it and so I went to WHO It's a little bit of a stretch. Maybe I went to get a heart scan and I've been I'm on a pretty much of a healthcare. I'm really focused on fitness and health and muscle building ending and cardio and so I've been getting some test Ron just to make sure I'm good to bump it up a little bit and so somebody said Gephardt skin okay. Forty nine dollar heart scan. Have you ever had one Why do the treadmill stress tests? Okay which I think is after the heart scan right I think I think it's better than the heart scan is just a just a quick look look look see your ticker so I had it done and which went to riverview hospital up no gray people? They were very nice. Of course they're all podcast listeners. Of course all the cardiologists drove their sales people at heart. So we got done she goes go out. Go out sit in the chair there and And I'll bring you results back. Okay good so. She brought the results back. Can she goes You know sit down there. She said now now all of the results are not perfectly accurate. We have radiologists. That looks at this thing a couple of days after this and then we will send this to your doctor. She said who is your doctor. I don't really have a doctor buys made up somebody so She says you you have a you have a tremendous calcium build-up. You're a three twenty on this thousand point scale. I guess you people in the medical profession would no more but the point is that they give you the range like zero to four hundred x four hundred seven hundred seven hundred thousand is you're almost dead. Yeah and so I was at the very low end of the high range so which means I was. It was nervous. I I mean she shows where all the while the blockages or calcium as an and I said okay well what what does all this mean I mean I see the the data here but what does it mean she goes. Why you need you need to Go rest. She said you need to talk to your doctor. He or she will give you what to do next. Okay okay so I was nervous and so the rest of the day you know drink Coffee and milk and so I thought calcium. I better stop drinking milk and go through all this process and I stopped eating meat. I stop eating sugar and if they can two days is going to help us but and then I went to oh by the way one thing she goes. Yeah you might try meditating. She said that. Yeah Oh out the door because maybe doctor house up for maybe try meditating. I'm like does that really knew then. Calcium up uh-huh with an audio audio sound anyway so I saw a friend of Mine Doug Singer. WHO's a cardiologist? At a party Saturday night after this happened on Thursday to get the heart yes he was raised to the win. I said tell me about this. He goes let me tell you about heart scans. He said they are a marketing. Being ploy to get you to buy for further stress test. All the all the stuff you said it's not that you shouldn't pay attention to it. But he says I can't tell tell you how many times P patients come in. And they're nervous because they're scan shows up calcium and they come in and there's nothing wrong he says there's no baseline on it. It's just a number out of nowhere. He he said here's an here's an interesting fact. I've got ten cardiologists in my department. Never has one of them ever done a heart scan which tells you something about Itself this anyway. So the pro and I thought the process of revealing the numbers to me was very lax it was it was not Buttoned up and it caused me to get nervous. And there's no reason for it to be so we talk about process today and buttoning up the process a little bit but if you've never you've had the stress a stress test and so that's that's the I think that's the end all be all die and get no seat belts that's the next. That's the next best thing because my I talked to my doctor he goes. You don't need a heart scan if you do stress test stress way more way more accurate and that processes handle the stress much cash. It's actually it'll it will make you relax because it comes back with the percentage of likely that you're gonNA have a heart attack right after looking at your watching your heart go up and down on a treadmill and it's really really great always makes me feel good that I do it. Okay all right well. I've never had any heart problems or any out of breath but all of a sudden out now every time I walk upstairs but I get a little long we the saying. Hey it's the new year and if you are coming back to a calendar that looks a little bit sparse. Can you like to have some more meetings booking. Listen to what I'm saying you're not alone. The number one problem sales people have booking prospect meetings. And if you don't get the front and working then we know that the back end won't work one of those things that gnaws at us all the time we're always asked ourselves. How do I book more first appointments? Well if you're in that boat you should know about chronological logic. The world's first calendar monetization engine chronologically takes Leeds from any channel and converts them into meetings for you chronological literally literally books out your calendar so you can maximize your meetings your pipeline and ultimately your compensation you can use technology for yourself or if you'd like to learn more book academic with them and you'll see how it works at chronologically dot. Ai That's chronologically K. K. A. R. O. N. L. O. G. I C. DOT A so process wise. Here's this started this week and I worked a football game yesterday we were talking about processes and we. I realized when anything goes wrong in the football. It's almost always because we didn't follow a little bits of process. One little thing got wrong. It made me also think about flying and those of you who may have ever been on a plane flying across the country during the game. I think this is actually the day before the game That you'll see the pilots sometimes especially when you're flying on regional airline the pilots. Let's will meet each other right before they get on the plane. So the first officers and the captain's sometimes are assigned to fly this plane and they don't have never met before and maybe they're newer younger in their careers ears but what they do is they all have the same process that they follow so that allows them to hop into a jet and fly a bunch of people safely midway halfway across across the country without having a problem at that sort of thing. They deal with checklist. They use the same framework the same logic. Something okay so it happens on football. It happens with flying airplanes. Shouldn't it also happen in selling. Shouldn't we take a really hard look at our processes and ask ourselves. Do I have a process. Is it as good as it can be. Do I follow it. Why not know those sorts of things so think about this is a thought provoking episode for you to sit back and go man yeah? What is my process this and does it work? And how could it be better that sort of stuff. So process is the topic of the day. That's a great topic I think so too. Yeah Yeah I've always. I've always wondered bird. I had a friend of mine who is a pilot for American and he flew jumbo big seven seven seven to China Beijing in India. And I I was asking him once about about the process and he says you know it's it's the same every time we could fly three. Different routes of course unit flight of Beijing are not doing three a day. But if you're no matter or how many you're flying. You're doing the same checklist. Same process all the time all the time the language is the same your definition for a wing not different than my definition of whatever. It's just all very very buttoned up. Yes extremely and so the question is as you post it is what about in sales and so maybe we take a walk through the sales process and talk about some observations that we have that. We've seen the might help the listener. Get a little more buttoned up about yours. Yes and I I would say for there are a couple of different elements here because I also believe there are processes within the process We were watching a now these. I watch that's you ever watch these shows on air disasters. I actually I liked him too. And when you watch him and what most people don't know and we I was talking to my wife about this because we're watching a show together and she's like what are the said. They actually have a checklist for when stuff goes wrong so the engine flames out. There's a checklist for that. If the oxygen drops in her d. deep pressures agent happens. There's a checklist. There's there's a checklist for things within the general flying and so as you're listening to this I want you to think about that. Your company will likely have a sales process and you may also have your own process within the company sales process. The main thing is that you're able to document that number one and you're able to repeat it and you can share it with someone you you know exactly where you're going either broadly with your company's process or within your own for yourself so if I said we've got a a listener Gig we're going to go up to Chicago to do for a podcast in group who we like a lot and one of the things. We're going to talk to them about us. How territory manage well? Probably I'm guessing. The reason we're doing that is because you got fifteen twenty five people doing it totally differently and so how can we structure that button. It up a little bit better. I think it's a really really good thing to examine for yourself herself. I think that's probably typical though if you have a sales team if you're a VP of sales listening you've got you know. Twenty thirty fifty people management team. I bet that's probably really a pretty systemic issue. which is everybody's got their own thing? Your own way of doing is you could have a sales process. But you if I watched you go through it and Travis and me you could see three very different characterizations at yes. Yes so I like the I like the idea Tim Ferriss wrote a book called the four hour workweek. You remember that absolutely you years ago. Oh and one of the things that he's stressed in there. He said if you're going to work less and achieve more you've got a delegate if you're going to delegate you've got a document until things are documented your process the sub processes like you talk about Brian until they're documented. It becomes hard to see where the problem is us. And you forget if you don't have a checklist in front of you and I'm guilty of this. Sometimes I'll wing first calls but I know when I have a checklist when I prepare and go in and have have some a conversation with somebody. If I've got an agenda or checklist. Whatever you WANNA call it things always go better? Always they always do. And I'm the same boat I mean for the most part I'm pretty diligent diligent with that those processes and then occasionally get sloppy or you get you get relaxed 'cause you know build some rapport with somebody who sort of come off script and it doesn't work you know I just had a gig that I got get a no force. I like the fact that I got a decision as reexamined I go backwards. I got a little too comfy with these people to chummy with them. You know and I said Yeah. We're going through it and I knew I was talking to. I knew there was a there was an owner of the company. I wasn't talking to. I knew I was exposed. What if I was following the process though when I got to the process which is one one of my sections? I would've said I need to go have a meeting with that guy but that's it. I didn't do that and let it go a little too far without that I would say ninety percent of the time that I lose a deal deal or or don't get one I probably should get. It's because I've come off the process I got lax. I got sloppy. Maybe it's because I had extra report maybe it's because I felt time constraints or I just felt in a needy place. I felt like well. He wants to quote so I better and the quote and that's the wrong thing. Yeah absolutely so the good thing to do you know Kinda step up one of those things that it needs to be written down as the first thing I think you need to be able to say articulate what it is I love the idea of also needs to be written down in a way you can send it to somebody else and they can understand. Yeah Yeah that's another thing people miss sometimes. They try to internalize their own lingo jargon into a process. People don't give a crap about that like what are you talking about. Just put it in simple simple form so other people know. Yeah I can follow along with that. How many times have you well? I was somewhere the other day and I asked somebody. Tell me about your business. And it was like seven minutes of all over the place stream of consciousness chasing little white rabbits through the forest. I mean I had no. I literally had no idea after seven minutes what they did. And it's because we are not buttoned up about how we explain our business. How explainer value? Yeah I wrote down. Here's you were talking that. Let's say you're process has five components to it. Maybe first step is a discovery second step is an economic step. Third step is whatever. You've got four five steps underneath underneath each one of those. You probably have a series of sub bullet points or sub checklist so the decision process. We WanNA know are we talking to the CEO if that's who you're talking to is VP of sales merchandising. What are the people that you need to have involved so this could be? It could be a fairly significant document. But so what right if you WANNA close ninety percent of your deals or even seventy percent. You've got to have some kind of structure see. I love that and people who listeners can't see this bill is kind of sketched out. Visually visually sketched out in pin. I might say normally. He's with Pencil. This is a pen so he can't do anything with this. We don't want to change it but you had these big. Oh never mind line. They have a pocket versus his pocket. How many of you carry a number two pencil? Mechanical on at the Click. Click one like you got a legitimate old school. You think eighty percent. That's a great question. Doug drove in fact checker. Doug get on that. What's the percentage of Americans that use a number? The two pencil without its mechanics is a small very smart. But he's catching this out. This is what it should look like. It almost looks like what he calls. Pictogram pictogram one of those things called and there's little pictures of things icon. I kinda Graham. I caught I caught a classic Lanna Graham known as it is anyway. It's kind of like a plan a gram though this little right top-shelf shelves so you got a big process at the top little processes below and you think about the the things we've compared this to see think about five an airplane a captain in a first officer don't meet and get in the cockpit and say hey don't worry about checking the engines today. We're we're good. They don't do that. They go right down the list. Engine checks boom on it The power boom boom boom. Okay now ailerons. Check rudder checked everything. Everything's checked so if you do that it's really hard to screw. Anything is hard and when pilots do in a checklist. When something's wrong they stop like can't I can't go along? Yeah I had one flight. Two weeks ago. Save guys like we have a computer glitch air. That's coming up. We don't think it's a problem but it needs to be reset. We can't reset it so we're going to have to delay and the flight was delayed an hour. They stopped flying because there was a glitch in the process. That's awesome great so let's talk about maybe three or four things. It should be a part of the checklist as a sales professional to be seller. What are a handful of things? Maybe you give a couple of. I'll give a couple of things that just I have to be checked off before you advance. Yes and you're talking about the actual what the components would be. Yeah Yeah Yeah like discovery like like something like that like what's inside. The discovery process that you say you can't go any further until you find this out. Yeah so one thing that will be in the discovery. checklists would be the Raw reasonable economic motive. What's the economic motive meaning I've got an issue or a problem and do my able to delineate how much that problem is costing me or how much opportunity costs I've got not going the other direction Not just like in our world that wouldn't be we want people to be. You know skilled better. We went there. That'd be some economic upside to it if we can find that at all because that helps us recognize whether or not the investment in our work is worth for them good. That would be a thing. Good I have assessment now. Assessment doesn't necessarily mean paid assessment. But you've got to have some kind of a process that you take people through in order to find out. What are the problems? What are you trying to accomplish? What your ideal outcome or the economics of this? If you don't get it done economies if you do so probably go backup from where you are and just some kind of assessment some kind of survey or audit or whatever you wanna call it and maybe it's just something you have for yourself. It's just a page that you you keep to keep you on track when you're asking these questions kind of like a heart scan meditate a little more sir breaks the best forty eight hours start. Meditating break up the calcium bringing the calcium break up the calcium Here's something that I think needs to be under the process section so one of my headings process us And there is who all is going to be involved in the whole project. Everyone from The person who's going to sign the contract the person who's going to support the program internally and who the people are within it because I've got those three in our world those three constituents can make or break a deal right so so in the deal I lost. VP sales. You know brings me in. I met all the sales people I didn't meet the CEO. There's where my process failed. If I would have been following my checklist right the three still might have gotten to the same conclusion. But I wouldn't have gone as far as I did without it. That makes sense because as the proposal for me which they shouldn't have if I'm that's right. Yeah that's good One other thing I have here is somewhere during the near the end of the process I wouldn't say this is the first call but it might be and that is have you been able to cast the vision of what it looks like to work with you. That's really good. So let's say that it's a you. You are. Typically in a ninety day selling cycle. Maybe it's three or four calls everybody's different militias for the sake of argument's say that's it. I'd say on the second or third call. You would say look in the event we worked together. I know we're not there yet. In the event we work together. Let me share with you. What it looks like to be a client of mine? Yes and you just lay out you you know step one. After the deal is signed the engagement letter signed. Here's what we do. We have a meeting of four of us. We go to Sullivan's and we have dinner and smoke cigars and we drink a lot and we talk about out the issues and second thing is I come back after that meeting and I deliver a articulation of the elements and we project manager thing. Whatever the process is? It's nice to be able to tell the person somewhere. Here's what it looks like to work with me that to me as part of the process that's great. I love that yet. Nobody does that. No people. Don't talk talk about moving on. Here's what it's like to be a client. It's so easy because you're not saying. Hey we're getting ready to close here. You're just saying in the event we worked together is what it looks like. It's great I love doing that. Great last thing. I'll say in the timeline or in the process. They just gave it away in the process. I would also think about putting a timely We're we're on boarding thirty new employees this week and we put we. Even we even change this. I put down like I thirty days. Forty five sixty. I'm like let's put dates on that. Let's just be a little more even more precise with that. So instead of Saint Forty five days we're going to say February sixteen February nineteenth. That just really helps people say okay. C. N. here and the things going to come to a conclusion at some point. I love the database language to that. Yeah Hey if you have some kind of an event coming up sales meeting strategy meeting customer conference of some kind you like Brian or I or both of us to come out and talk. WE'VE GOT ONE IN CHICAGO COMING UP HERE IN A couple of weeks and we'll look forward to visiting good people up in Chicago. Send us an email to listener advanced selling podcast dot com in the subject subject. Line just right come see us. 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#575: Sales and Achievement Lessons from 2019

Advanced Selling Podcast

22:59 min | 10 months ago

#575: Sales and Achievement Lessons from 2019

"In this episode of the advanced selling podcast. We talk funerals. Leo Sayer Jack. Candy and the get up dance all in one episode and we spend some time reflecting electing about what great things twenty nineteen has taught us walking back to the advanced selling podcast the longest running sales training podcast. We are entering into the final episode of Two Thousand Nineteen. I'm bill caskey. Brian Neal here and welcome back for those of you who have joined us for the last. What thirteen almost fourteen years? We have been releasing episode every week. And we really appreciate you. We hope two two thousand nine hundred was an awesome year today. Brian and are going to share a couple of things with you. We've learned in this year and I think it's a good time of reflection before we head into twenty twenty. We've been waiting for twenty twenty forever and hits here do have to say the Twenty twenty vision things you know. Yeah yeah absolutely can see so clearly I can see clearly now. who was at Johnny Nash? How about that? Have you ever heard of the get up dance now. Get up dances a It's one of those. It's not really a country dance but it's one of those dances. It's like a lion. Dan Got Kinda sly and we have a friend WHO's having a wedding next year and they want us to do this dance so my wife and I were looking at this weekend and I'm trying to dance you know. Ah Good though and it's good. It's funny though. It's just different great. There's some kind of groove crab that I just don't have the get up dance. Is it neutral. Yeah fairly new. All right. Yeah it's good. It's good anyway. Where was I going with that? I I have no idea. Hey Brian. I don't know if you've noticed that you have sales tools. That are really good at telling you what to do. But wouldn't it be great. Mr Neal L. if they actually did the work for you I will tell you. I'm lazy human being with this. Anybody that wants to do work for me. I'm in all if few wished you could afford your own executive admin which you actually have due to fill your calendar for you. This might be interesting to you in. The name of the company is chronologically. It's the the world's first calendar monetization engine chronologically takes Leeds from any channel and converts them to meetings. Let me say that again takes. I leads from any channel. It could be online. Could be webinars that you've run. It could be freebies that you've created it could be linked in any of your social channels and converts them to meetings at literally books out your calendar for you so you can maximize your time. Your meetings your pipeline and your compensation you can use their technology for yourself and book a demo. Mo at Chronological Dot A.. That's CR- Chronological K. R. O. N. O. L. O.. GIC DOT Ey. We're going to be having being the one of the founders of this company when I talked to them originally and we WANNA make sure we liked the tools. This is a good one. This is a cool thing because essentially what what happens is you're a salesperson and you literally come open your calendar Sunday night and this tool has booked demos for you or sales meetings for your next week and the way they do. It's very these little is special to John. But it's really cool so we're glad to have you know. I think one thing that we sales professionals channels are going to have to accept is automation and I think we don't. I think they're still this reluctance and resistance to well. You know what if I'm going to call somebody muddy I'll put him in my calendar and I'll bang bang out calls and I'll just keep calling him. Economists like wait a minute. Is that really the best use of your time. Couldn't you be using artificial intelligence elegance and a follow-up mechanism like this forget about a is a follow-up mechanism that you can use to help you manage your time and your prospects. I think it's awesome awesome. It's great and it's it fits into something that bill you talk about a lot. which is am I doing thousand dollar an hour work hundred dollar an hour worker ten dollar an hour work and there's a lot of this stuff that when you really step back from it can be in feel and look like ten dollar an hour work and you can have machine do that for? It's really smart. Okay okay. We need to remember deep thoughts by Jack. Hanna Oh yeah that the the youngsters are GonNa have to look that one up as concurring deal you know I remember where I was talking with. The get up dance is remember the song. I think think I can dance. I think I can. I can dance. I think I can now. It's by Leo Sayer. Oh I love Leo Sayer Leo. Sarah had like three or four. Oh always yeah but he had one called. I think I can dance. Yes I know I know you know it. Yeah I do and anyway I never realized how Legendary Endure Leo Sarah's in the UK. He's like is he British. Though I think's okay we'll have to check or does no longer give us the Bio Doug Dros in calling on Doug Jones give us a bio on Leo Sayer don't look it up now. Well I don't know if he's dead but it says as years active one thousand nine hundred ninety three to present. I mean he's still he's still song records still isn't it that somebody died the other day and it was a real. I was a real fan out of their music. Obviously it wasn't this guy anyway. Leo Sayer used to have. I don't want to go into detail because again. Convert hyper conscious of this but there was a thing the pacers used to have have a guy named dancing Harry. Okay and dancing. Harry would come out of the stands. This was back in the eighties and nineties during the playoffs and he would always dance to the song. Aw come out and put the heck's on the other team as it was very funny until they learned a little bit more about dancing Mary. It wasn't but anyway topic today. Eight twenty here. We're dancing areas these. We thought it would be a good idea to share with you. Some of our lessons that we've learned twenty twenty nineteen and we believe it's a good time for reflection of what's worked and what hasn't for each of us and I think lessons are a good way for us to kind out of encapsulates the year and say what did we learn that we can carry forward to twenty twenty and so I know you've got a couple written down and I've got a couple of written down are there any any macro LECI- big-picture less weird might apple. Does this right so when it's time for a new phone phone starts Jack up so I type these out and they're going I can't find but I know what they are. I do I start with one start. I'm going so my phone is off now. I can't read what it says anymore. It's coming it is coming from my heart but I know what three I wrote down the first one is. Everyone wants a magic bullet and I really feel strongly this year after all these years that that I know what the magic bullets and selling and the magic bullet is changing your energy changing our energy all of all the energies that you show up with your sales calls to your sales behaviors to work to your internal team. Would I just. I've had a couple of clients this year when I've watched I've got one. They just started in August. And I don't know where they're energy was real well before but I know that their energy has switched and they've just owned all the things we would teach a client all all the things about embracing abundance and good good intentions and healthy detachment and feeling comfortable in the process and being just real open safe asking. They just have done everything. And it's just they're killing it results wise and it seems effortless because they work really hard all this pressure off like all the pressure is gone and I think that's the magic bullet. It's the energy with which you show up to these interactions. You see these these meetings. That's it don't choose your phone. Don't you think that I love that and I agree with you. Don't you think that the energy plays out out so importantly in the first part like I know I need to make these twenty five calls this week. You know what I'll put it off until Friday and then conventionally it's June I still haven't raped halls and and I know I'm not accusing I do it. We do it what we're not in a good energetic state. We put put off stuff because it doesn't feel right when you get right energetically. Yeah those are hard cost me no not at all they want to make effortless just it. Just it's just so smooth like yeah just made these calls and had these conversations and some said yes some said no some said maybe just worked intentions were good. Yes and it's effortless for the prospect to because they don't feel like he'd put up you know no no it just feels when even listen to some of these calls back. It doesn't sound like any sort of sales call that we sniffed out. You know ten twenty years ago. Whatever that's good all right? I've got one that's similar to that and and I I've found that people really do want the deep part which I I think. Energy is part of that deep part. I just don't think they know. L. How to ask for it so when someone shows up our world they say Gimme Gimme some language. Give me some moves tactics. What they're really asking for is giving me the solution to my problem? We're telling them is. That's not the solution to your problem. So when when we go in deep deep I mean looking at well. How are you thinking about things? How are you thinking about your purpose here on the planet? How are you thinking about the value? You bring to your customers if you're not thinking correctly about that stuff then when it goes to get get translated translate into the market. It's just going to come out soulless and cold and kind of handy. Yes but I would lesson. I've learned here. Is that people. Actually they want that deep stuff. They don't know how to ask for. It sometimes agree I would agree. What do you tell them? Because I get asked that question people not as much which is I think I would but I get asked from teaching thinking column stuff. Going through the right idea of abundant attachment goes so I I really struggle with detachment. Well how do I fix that. The last that in class what do you say to that. Someone says I'm really struggling. Dealing the Nike just do it. Unhelpful unhelpful relatively unhelpful. It's like the one I took golf lessons. My backswing is very fast and slow your backswing down. Slow your back. So every time time I took a swing a slow your backswing Don. I'm like this is not helping you. Yelling a million slow my backswing down probably makes me want to go quicker so come up with something something else man for one hundred bucks. Envisioning the ball as your face beating it up. So here's one. Here's one thing that I think we can ask people pulling I'm sure you have when someone says how do I detach. Yeah I say why are you in this business. Why do you even do this? Whether it's it's commercial. Real estate dental manufacturing. Why do we even do that? Because until you get in touch with why this work that you do is important into you and to the world into your market until you get in touch with that it becomes hard to detach because everything feels transactional if you're an attachment mode so it's like well. Well how do I detach while I need to get that sale. How am I going to detach? Well forget it you've already. You've already lost that game. So why do you do what you do is a real good way. Okay for you to get clear about. What's the whole purpose? What's my general purpose here in this business? You know work that I'm in and from there then you can become detached because now it's about helping other people get what they want your your clear on your purpose. Your purpose is to help people solve a problem in a certain area so now the focus is all on that not on what I'm going to get so it becomes easier to detach I like good answer. Here's a reflection that I have from the the past year is we're we're getting lots of messages from the world that is like go go act go hundred calls a day. That and I agree. There's like I wrote down here that I I believe that. Action Breeds Action. I do that. What I think is more important is is a consistent? Amount of small actions over a long period of time is the key to long-term high performance. Success in selling and and long-term inaction will slowly joke. You out drive you down and I've just seen this happen at a couple clients. When I've I've noticed this where? The small amounts of inaction in December and January don't show up in their sales results until June and July. And then so what they're doing. Is this massive action. Massive inaction massive action massive in action. And I've come to the realization realization over this year. That if we just do little bits it's in your book. Concerted Market Small Bits of action over a long period. The time or the trick do we need to redefine action because he used to be action. Was Outreach it was picking up the phone making the going to networking session getting a referral and so it was all very out bounty. Is there a reason to redefine. What action is today given the social platforms linked data? I mean it seems like there's a there's another level of action beyond just outreach. Yeah I mean I think it's all tied together. I mean to me it's all that's that's all part of of action. Yeah it's to me. It's the what's worse to me. Is the inaction so this is part of my own self reflecting you reflect on yourself and I look look at some self reflecting me to reflect on yourself. Why don't you tell me that we help? We help with a couple of dumb this down for you bring up blintzes again callback. Still have one no go have one. Don't just look it up go have a blitz. I look at so you look at social media stuff. You look at instagram. And like Oh my gosh. This hundred thousands of people in our podcast and I've got like fourteen instagram followers. Well why is that. Well well because I've done forty eight instagram post in the history of instagram. You look at someone who got four million instagram followers. They've for a a minute. The hurdle life is there. And what's interesting. I'm in so there's a balance and all that but there's no doubt that they're small amounts of behavior over a long period of time payoff. They always do. They do. In physical fitness and weight loss and spirituality in Studying my rule study with football all and things just little bits over a long time. Are the trick. Yeah little bit. That's really good little bits and I think in Gary manner talks talks about this. A little bit is try the four to seven things that you think might work whether it's instagram whether it's Lincoln navigator I got a call from a guy today so you know what my manager wants me to use Lincoln navigator and he's complaining because I wasn't using it and we look and there's fifteen people in the company bought it for all of them not one person's using it right and I and I said well how. How much training have you had on thirty minutes? Well of course you're not going to use it because you don't see the value in it and forget about whether it has value or not my. I'm open but I'm not sold but whatever the question is have you been given enough training that you can honestly say I looked at it. I tried it not for me or I looked at it and try that this. The the best thing ever correct and so part of that going to these consist an actions and then doubling down on those things that work and aborting and in just leaving those things that don't to the CY is critical too. Because you can't do. Lincoln navigator published pieces of content. Have a youtube channel have apart. You can't do it at all so you've gotta double down on something right and I know a couple of guys who've done a small amount over really long time podcast. Steer built up. It's Me Bill we've talked about all of bounce. Some you know any one. I don't like that same company excluded did I also don't like people say when they say speaking of Said Glass Eight when people say yeah so the glass I was really broken and thinking speaking of Said Glass. Look like that statement at all Paul knowing about on it. Yeah well what did you say. Well said let's I got to do with class class speaking reflecting onset employees. She's I don't like it when people I mean on the good hear something funny I was going to say but I'll do a real quick quick story. I went to a funeral the other day of a guy which is not a happy occasional matches. Probably what amused me was the Obe it. It was obviously written by his wife. Okay because that was all and he was in his sixties and his wife fine but yeah obviously his wife wrote it and and there was a lot of reference to his beautiful wife. They're wonderful marriage their model their model children. Well some if it was the children that Roy you wouldn't right but I thought isn't that a little bit full of yourself. Yeah he's want to reread it. Feel good about yourself podcast listener. So I'm sure they'll they'll be calling me. Sorry about your loss. Okay so I bet you lost but anyway my excuses are. You're nothing but a story that I tell myself that allows me to to really use those excuses to get out of behavior so I have an excuse like well. You know I don't have the time to do that right. Yeah and that's really be ass because if it it worked in a generator to a large amount of money or large amount of fulfillment or whatever. I would find a way to do it. Yeah and I think we have to ask ourselves. What excuses are we telling ourselves? And what's the story behind that that we're telling ourselves because until we change the story behind it we really don't change the excuse and all those things I found an. I just believe this. Each they don't matter doesn't matter I mean they're they're the story doesn't matter we'll that whatever the thing is like like what like you said like well. I don't have time or say things like well. I'm not good on audio people. Say why don't we podcast. Not Get an audio like what do you mean. You're not gonNA audio. How many audio have you recorded? And what have you feedback on people. That say you're not good at it. You know what I mean it just and then the you're not good at is for someone says you're not good at it and someone else does. I mean it just it. Just yeah crazy saying that. The story that we tell ourselves probably has some holes and there's no yes and this story is safe because it keeps us from. I'm doing we're right right so don't really want to challenge the story. Then we're there were all into video or whatever that was having a glass of wine with a a couple of friends of ours and you wrote that sorely glass. No I was not and I said I'm not gonNA products products aren't my deal all and this person who you know said I'm going to respectfully disagree with you. You're wrong and I'm like what he means. Like your greater products. You just choose not to do them. I was like Whoa. She's ready to tell me more he's right. Yeah she's like your audio podcast. A really good on video choosing only people sell products that suck on video. And you're good on video. It's a choice you're making It was really good. She's right she's right but I have the tape value on new products so we need people in our lives. I used to say that we because most people would say oh well you know you are not used to know I get you. I feel you man. That's good instead of saying that's right almost all. Bs On that issue she did. It was really really thankful she really and then what happens when she did that now. My wheels going. Oh my gosh. She's right yeah I'm wrong. She's right let's go to last one for me. Personal calendar ability is key. It's not what you think. People think. Personal Accountability means. How many calls you build? And that's fine. We'd do all that. That's great This to me is about recognizing that you have way more in your control than you think you do and I was on a call with a client the the other day or doing a little check in they've lost a ton of businesses a retention group ton of business as I'm doing the check in about fifty percent of the people said well actually pretty good now I lost a half my business but most of it was out of my control. Just cut back on spending Chose to go a different direction. Nothing we did or I did and I'm not blaming these people because but no I really believe they really do and you cannot be a high performer. I don't believe with that kind of attitude you cannot because you will always find why it didn't work outside of yourself. There's always something you could have done without question question because I always say when people get let go from jobs like well they'd cut back. There was nothing I could do. Well they fire. Everybody didn't fire everybody. Some people for a reason isn't that why didn't they keep you over them. And so that's the thing. I think the trouble with that though. Is that when you're when things are going well. Yeah that's the time to do the things that will what prevents you from losing the business a year from now because once somebody says. Hey we're going to cut back it's too. It might be too late then. It may not be but so it's the dichotomy the th the things to do are when you are when they love you and they're buying a lot from you that's the time to go in. And Swirl the pot and say what other order the other problems that you're having versus a year from now just told you there. You're out feeling good. That's good so we want to hear from you. Put this in in the link Dan. If you're a member of our link group Make sure you put in here. What did you learn in two thousand nineteen any reflections? You had this prompt you to think of some some things that maybe Were deep dark secretive lessons for you or in the bright sunshine lessons for you. Either way is fine. We'd love to hear from you. If you're not not a member of Arlington Group. Make sure you go to advance selling podcast dot com slash late. Dan Join Up. We have Almost twelve thousand people in that group have some good conversation so make sure you join us their merry Christmas happy holidays and happy New Year.

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CNN10 - 5/26/20

CNN 10 (video)

10:00 min | 4 months ago

CNN10 - 5/26/20

"Back Online after the Memorial Day holiday this is CNN coral. Who since good to see you? We have a report on Memorial Day coming up in. Today's show while summer in the northern hemisphere doesn't officially start until June Twentieth Memorial Day is seen as the unofficial beginning of the season and with warmer weather. Descending on much of the United States people were out and about packing beaches in some places as they reopened a lot of folks were without masks and apparently ignoring social distancing rules and Americans were cautioned not to let their guard down the White House's Corona Virus Task Force Coordinator says wearing masks is crucial to keeping the disease from spreading. They help prevent droplets from someone sneeze or cough from reaching other people one question submitted the CNN is about whether you can catch covid. Nineteen by going to the pool. The Centers for Disease Control says a pool or hot TUB. That's well-maintained in disinfected is not likely to carry the virus from one person to another so you probably won't get it from the water but health officials say you can still catch it from other people there. So they're advising Americans to stay at least six feet away from others even at the pool. Different nations have different levels of corona virus cases. The US has confirmed the most with more than one point six billion positive diagnoses since the disease first arrived. Brazil and Russia have each confirmed more than three hundred thousand cases and the United Kingdom and Spain have each seen more than two hundred thousand nations are also at different stages when it comes to their responses to reopen or not to reopen that is the question many are asking and when restrictions should be lifted. That is the challenge. Many are facing Fred. Plugin gives us an idea of how different schools around the world are cautiously welcoming students back. It looks almost like a normal school break at the school in Copenhagen except for the police tape dividing the school yard just one of many measures meant to keep kids from bunching up and prevent the spread of the corona virus. The head of secondary education says if you follow the guidelines given if you keep this if you make sure to wash your hands keep sanitizing coughing in your sleep and not in in your hand and so on so forth. I think we'll be safe. Denmark started reopening schools more than a month ago and so far. New Corona virus cases in the country haven't spiked. The government says what's surprising. Neither students nor teachers wear masks. Instead they keep distance and wash hands and sanitize very often. It's a bit challenging but you You get used to after time. It's a different picture in South Korea. Children they're not only wear masks. Some are seated behind plexiglass dividers to prevent infections still the country shutdown dozens of schools after two kids tested positive. Even the first major corona virus epicenter on China brought kids back two weeks ago. Your to masks are mandatory and the school's President says other strict measures have been taken. Choi and the rearranged the facilities on the campus to ensure each class. Has its own restroom. He says its own boiled water room and its own alternative classroom. France reopened schools last week but has already had to shut some down again after recording. Dozens of corona various cases still Francis. Education Minister says he believes the kids are doing their part visit. If the pupils understand the social distancing rules. He says the wearing of masks and in some cases they show the way including for adults because they understand what's at stake the mood. Denmark says it hopes to have all students back in school next week but physical distancing rules means. They don't have space for them all so they are getting creative moving some classes into local churches and even the church graveyard all to try and short children can have their lessons even in times of. Pandemic Fred Friedkin. Cnn Berlin with US observes as Memorial Day was originally known as decoration day. It began at the time of the US civil war when mortars decorated the graves of people who fallen in battle. The name of the event was changed to Memorial Day. After one it became time to remember troops who'd been lost in every conflict and it's now celebrated on the third. Monday in May one of several federal holidays held a Monday to give workers along weekend in Normal Times. Parades are held thousands gather for public events that remember. America's fallen servicemen and women. The president laid a wreath at the tomb of the unknowns. That's Arlington National Cemetery. In Virginia and that somber ceremony was held as planned on Monday. But there are a number of Memorial Day Traditions. That look very different. In the corona virus era. The flag that covers the casket is no longer handed to the next of kin instead. It's gently laid on a table. Next to the grave at Arlington National Cemetery solemn funeral owners adjusted in the age of Corona virus to pay tribute to decorated World War. Two veteran Robert Belch here. Everyone wears masks even the rifle platoon. Captain Doug Rhody has been back from Iraq for just eight months. He now performs ceremonial duties for the army's guard. Unit here means a lot to me that we can still be there for families. Even though you know we're dealing with a lot as a country right now the new reality only ten family or friends or allowed. Graveside as few troops as possible perform funeral honors distances. Kept masks are worn but still the same dignity and respect that every funeral even with the changes even is on this Memorial Day. Arlington is open. Only to families of those buried here specialist. Joseph Gorgas is part of the army's elite Caisson platoon the unit that carried those killed on the battlefield elderly veterans and president of the United States since covid nineteen started. We have gone from conducting forty missions as a platoon a week. Two zero the horses that pull the case on Stiller on-duty but with extra troops required to do it right. The case are not being used to limit the number of people interacting then second trivia. What is the only state made up of two peninsulas? Florida Massachusetts Michigan or the only state that borders four of the Great Lakes and has two peninsulas is Michigan. Ohio At this time We're just waiting for the water to craft store assessing damages. We have and we have been assisting people with shelter. Global pandemic is almost something about. Oh but we are here. And to the best of our ability we are going to navigate this together two very loosely quote Johnny Nash. A clearly now thanks to my bionic. I not how the song went. But this is how the science going. According to research published in the journal Nature Scientists at Hong Kong University are working on electrochemical. I it is not ready for prime time. It can't see much yet but researchers hope the prototype could eventually work better than a human. I even managing to provide night-vision. It's I opening research that aspiring Spiderman will want to keep an eye on. They have eight of those anyway. And whether they're crawling on the World Wide Web or squinting through a web of darkness a BioNIC. I could not the cobwebs off and help them invasion and set their sights on the night coral. Today's show we're keeping our eyes on wall in poor PEC area high school it is in Hawley Pennsylvania. 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S2/E15: The Inside Outline by Jennie Nash

The Rookie Writer Show

09:46 min | 5 months ago

S2/E15: The Inside Outline by Jennie Nash

"Hi Welcome to season two episode fifteen of the rookie redder. Show I'm h-share Brown and I'll be your host today. We're going to be looking at a class again. This one's called the inside outlined by Johnny. Nash it's available through the company's website. Jenny NASHES Company's website author accelerator. They use the teachable platform. Which is super easy to use. And I'm a huge fan. I have seen Jenny and many women are free and paid. She's great about getting involved with organizations like women's fiction writers of America She never fails to deliver. She is the author of nine books in three genres and has sold more than one hundred thousand copies of her books. She's now using those experiences to help other authors as a book coach and in addition she's created a whole platform for training and helping other people interested in becoming book coaches through her company. The aforementioned author accelerator so she suggests that nurturing authors as they wrote their books used to be baked the traditional publishing process Think like F Scott Fitzgerald and Ernest Hemingway. And the editors that they worked with but this has since been squeezed out of the traditional publishing process. And of course India authors have never been able to count on the support of team automatically assembled around them so authors are increasingly building their own support structures by hiring their own editors their own publicist. And yes the rumble coaches. Nash says a good book coach is a combination of the following things. They're an artistic mentor. Third they're a project manager there. An editor support staff there sometimes therapists and if you go to the author accelerators website when he hit the landing page. You're asked to choose between the following. I WANNA BE. A book coach. I want to write my best book. From there. You'll navigate to a different set of options that will lead you to tools and classes meant to support your goals. Whichever they are. Some of these tools are free like the email based class that you're offered when the pop up comes when you arrive on the website and others are paid I was able to secure this week's class for free. That was a bargain because I think it's usually a hundred and fifty bucks or something on a promotion that Jenny offered in response to the corona virus shelter in place orders that most of the country's under With the usual caveat that there's a lot more to this class that I'm able to cover here. Here are my three things from the inside? Outline number one rules of the inside out one. You've probably come across a number of other plotting and outlining methods that have different beats at different points along three structure. This is different from that For starters she's very prescriptive about the physical space that your outline. We'll take up so the basic rules of the in initial inside outline. Are these no more than three pages? Long No more than three lines per bullet point one inch margins doublespace twelve point five. So she's like I said very prescriptive. The reason for this is after working with hundreds if not thousands of authors. She's observed that oftentimes authors will get lost in their own outlines with too much detail. It makes it difficult to see the proverbial forest for the trees so limiting yourself to these hard and fast rules about length will help that so plan on an opening closing and probably around ten scenes or less in this outline. Okay the next one number to each scene will have two parts. I can't summarize it any better than Jay Nash. Herself does so here ago. Going to quote her. The inside outline is a bullet point list where each bullet point describes a major action of the story. What happens and is paired. With a second bullet point the describes why it matters to the protagonists. The first bullet point is the scene and the second bullet point is the point of the scene. She calls these sets tears. So taking this top view of sorry And quote taking this top view of not. Only what happens but why it matters will help you keep track of both the emotional arc of the story and the events that are happening to the characters to create the conditions that are causing that emotional arc. Okay number three. The foot bone is connected to the ankle bone. The ankle bone is connected to the leg bone so even without the other scenes. Keep your eye on cause and effect with the major scenes. Each set of bullet points must caused the next here in some way in Q. Session Nash went on to add that. If your book has a story told in a non chronological way create to inside out once once chronological and one. That's the way the reader will experience your story so make sure they both make sense. Here's your hack. No one puts baby or they're inside outline in the corner. This tool is not something. You'RE GONNA WANNA do once and put to the side. It's not a one and done so after you've used it to sketch out the big picture of your story that you're telling while simultaneously Testing it for residents. Then you can flush it out to keep track of all the scenes in your book or you can use it to help solve a problem. When you get stuck you can use it during revisions. It will always help you. Sort of keep your foot on the rail ts. One of my favorite quotes from blazing saddles always good. Keep your foot on the real okay. Here's the quote from Jimmy. This week when novelist talk about outlining. They almost always mean outlining the plot. The result tends to be densely intricate grids. That lay out the details of what happens next. I've seen a great number of these kinds of grids and they always make my stomach hurt. I know how much time they take to make. And how much effort and ails infrequently? They guide the writer to where they need to go. The reason plot grids always leave out the most important part of the story which is the why and the meaning behind anything. That happens the inside outline. Lets you marry the two together and gives you an easy way to get down the key elements of your story? Andrew plot without ringing the life out of either end quote so. I love Jd Nash. I don't know her well. I've just barely interacted with her. She seems so kind and warm. But she combines a lot of experience and expertise and like. I said a warm approachable vibe and as I said before. There's a good bit more here than what I'm able to highlight on this episode. There's another whole lesson within the class about the one page book summary which is also incredibly helpful. What you think and Adam minimum whether you're fiction or a nonfiction writer definitely check out author accelerator DOT COM to pick up some excellent free tools and courses or visit Jenny. Nash Dot Com for this free resource entitled my top ten tips for writing a book worth reading. It's awesome it contains tools like the pdf how to commit to a book idea case. You're wavering. On that there are lots of other things besides that she gives away a lot of stuff for free if you WANNA check out some other author accelerator courses for writers. Currently they have a writing course bundled that has three courses bundled together for discount blueprint for a book fiction and Memoir versions self study the story Genius Workshop With Lisa. Kron how to revise novel navigating the path of publishing how to write a query letter. The pitch track fiction and nonfiction versions and finally the outcome outline for nonfiction writers. I hope this was helpful to you next week. I'll be applying the same approach to another masterclass. Margaret Atwood teaches creative writing. Remember now. Masterclass has a fifty percents sale for their masterpass. So you it's it's more like a buy one get one. I guess it's more of a Bogo so get one for yourself. Get One I give one to somebody. Love Okay exciting update. I've recently opened a rookie writer though Ricky writer bookstore on bookshop dot org now all of the books that we've reviewed here are available in one place and I love this so much. All sales benefit local bookshops. If you've been following bookshop dot org it is really fun to see that number on the top of their homepage just grow exponentially just even in the last few weeks. You're able to order things online and local bookshops. Fill your orders you can also get epochs this way I. This was news to me. I didn't really dig around enough to pick up on that sooner but anyway check it out. Bookshop Dot Org in specifically. If you go to the show you'll be able to click on the link to get to the rookie writer bookstore itself other news and other news fellow author Robin Kid able and I have just posted our most recent episode of Our podcast. Unsettling reads come. Check out our spoiler for your review of Alan Baxter's served cold and browse our other reviews of books from the crime. Fantasy horror literary mystery sci-fi Suspense Thriller Genres. You can find it all at unsettling reads dot Com and to find out what. I've been working on fiction. Wise visit h Dare Brown Dot Com. Don't forget the H. Actually doesn't matter. I HAVE BROWN DOT COM to. It'll take you the same place anyway. Sign up for the e mail list and I'll send you a free story every month. Just one email a month. They promise not to inundate you. I hate the Pesky emailer finally to help keep track of both your writing goals and your time which we're leaving. The some of US have a lot of it. Right now is still sort of slippery. 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New Music Friday: Feb. 15

All Songs Considered

21:07 min | 1 year ago

New Music Friday: Feb. 15

"Support for this NPR podcast and the following message. Come from the UPS store, offering services from shredding to printing to mailboxes and instead of closing this holiday. The UPS store is doing another ING altogether. Opening the UPS store every ING for small business. And of course shipping. Happy, Freddie, everyone from NPR music and all songs considered. I'm Robyn Hilton. And it is new music Friday. We're looking at the best albums out on February fifteenth starting with shock cons. Hello happiness. Shock Akon is the singer her new album is Hello happiness. And for this week's music Friday. I'm joined by Lauren on key. Hey, Lauren haven. Hello happiness. We're going to just call you happiness Friday. And Stephen Thompson, low Robin, and why would have phenomenal record from shock. Connor. I in twelve years. Yeah. There's two ways you can get out this record. I think you can talk about the fact that Chaka Khan's been making incredible music since the mid seventies with Rufus and then on her own she's never left the dance floor. Her records are always still out there. She's never stopped performing. And who she is at sixty five with a fabulous new album. I in a long time or you can just dance to this record. It's a dance record all the way through but you hear every sliver of her career across all the songs. The funk the dance music hurt the strength the for pipes which are good enough that she. Sing at Aretha Franklin's funeral last year. So it's all their laid out. You mentioned being able to hear every sliver and one thing. You can also hear the every sliver of is just every note every beat every baseline. This is a very spare record in a lot of different ways. It's only seven songs and like each song. You can hear the air in the mix. Let's hear another cut from the record. This one's called too. Hot. Begins. Stephen. I would never have thought to call this minimalist until after you said that now listening to this. I hear the spare nece in that. Especially that opening some great baselines on this. Everything's allowed to pop and you hear what she was doing with Rufus in the seventies. But not in any retro way at all. But that spirit behind you got the love and tell me something good that rock funk mix that her voice was so perfect for inner voice. Still sounds fantastic. It's really exciting to think about where she might head record comes out. Great to have her back shock on the record is. Hello happiness. Thanks, lauren. Thank you. All right from shock Akon. Let's go to something completely different. This is the singer known as right ex-. His new record is called unfurl. My. Right. Xs, the artist is new record is called unfurl in the song is untold. This is the musical project of riot coming. He's a singer from Australia his previous record in two thousand sixteen called dawn. And that was on my top ten list for that year. And this one could be this year. This record is marvelous. I mean, you remember when Bonnie zehr cut a like a single with James Blake. Yeah. And it's like, man. That's right ex-, you know, ended that combination of that that swooning falsetto with the lychee beats attached. And also real emotion, you I remember when you wrote about his last record and you described it as like your your headphone of the year. I mean, he he makes headphone music. He makes this very immersive and swoon and sweeping music that can can be really intransigent his songs. Open up so beautifully and keep thinking of blooming flowers, and he has said that he actually. Intentionally called the album unfurl as a nod to sort of all the beauty in the world. And how it can slowly reveal itself overtime for willing to listen the artist is right. Xs record is unfurl. Let's go now to yon tier and his new album all. Keys. Yeon tear Sohn is the artist. This record is all in. This court song is called Pell P, l L he's a French composer. And musician who sings on this song and much of the record in a Celtic language called Brenton his music sort of straddles a lot of different worlds. What's he doing on this one? Well, if you look at the whole of Yang tier since career, he sometimes resisted, the term composer that his music just happens to kind of map over like, for example, a lot of film music early in his career. He became known as the composer who did the music and Ali, but he didn't compose that music for the film. They just took tracks from his first three albums, right and stitched them into a score. That is one of the most famous movie scores of the last twenty five years you listen to this record. It's got a little bit of a spacier feel to the whole album is largely about our connections with nature, and or how we're very often disconnected for. Nature, and he has all these little ambient sounds woven into the songs. Just floor me and like the there's the laughter of children. He wrote the song Pell, in fact, for his son. It's gorgeous this record. And that record is called all from John tear Sohn. We still have a few more albums to highlight on this week's new music Friday, but first let's take a short break, and we'll be right back. They US any Ron have been at odds for a long time. And we tend to think it all started with the Iranian revolution in nineteen seventy nine. But that's not the whole story this week on through line will take you back to four days in nineteen fifty three that changed the US Iran relationship forever through line where we go back in time to understand the present. It's new music Friday from all songs considered. I'm Robyn Hilton. And I'm here with Steven Thompson. We are looking at some of the best albums out on February fifteenth. We start the second half of our show off with the band, sir. Baby girl and the album crush on me. Survey girl, the artist this album is called crush on me the song flirting with her. We had to get some Qatar noise on this week's show and survey girl a relatively new artist. Who is sir? Baby girl. Well, sir. Baby girl is a singer named Kelsey Hogue kind of a theater kid who's grown up into an increasingly larger than life persona part of what I really love about this project is she knows exactly who she is. And she knows exactly what she wants to say with music this album crush on me is a kind of concept album about self destructive urges, and it's designed to acknowledge those and break through them. And what really jumped out at me reading about her and listening to this record is this is the kind of music that comes out of the gate with a reason to exist and something to say, and so many of the ideas behind the record tied into her persona and her identity, she identifies as non binary and bisexual us. His she her pronouns, but that queer nece is really woven into into these songs in a way that I think really connect. Yeah. It's an album that refuses to be any one thing. Like as I was listening to it at one point. I thought well, it's okay. It's bubblegum pop. But then suddenly take a turn towards something more like punk or I think, oh, it's garage rock. And then it'd be more like eighty seventh pop it really traverses a lot of sonic territory, the album crush on me from sir baby girl. Let's go to the singer j s on DARA and his new album tales of America. The. Pull. Do. Wizardry? Pastor. Com. Cerny? Lovin sanity. Jason Dr is the singer new album is called tales of America and the song is days of insanity. This is the singer Bob Boylan, I introduced me to last fall on all songs considered. Another record is finally out reminded who Dr is. And then we can dig a bit more into what he's doing on this record. Well, J s DARA has a fascinating backstory. He grew up in Nairobi. Kenya? With limited means did not have access to instruments, but he did have access to a lot of nineties alternative rock. He eventually relocated to Minneapolis, which he will tell you is colder than Kenya. And eventually got his hands on guitar and keyboard which allowed him to teach himself how to play music he was inspired to quit school the day after he saw his first concert by a singer songwriter named Noah gunnison and decided to pursue music full time and has been embraced certainly by the public radio world, the current in Minneapolis. Has done a lot for his career. And he's got that. Sweet soaring voice. The name that kind of kept coming up for me is David Gray can hear the sandy quality to it. He's got a big range that I think he's still fully learning to master. I'm not necessarily as into his falsetto that sometimes kicks into late in his songs. But man, you can just hear the talent. He's got a fairy very engaging beautiful voice. And especially for someone from Kenya. He really nails the sort of free. Wheeling spirit of of American acoustic music, you know, like in the spirit of thinking Paul Simon or or Dylan and not just musically. But lyrically a lot of the songs are about chasing, the classic American dream or or or finding the heart of America or the American identity ties into his story. I mean, he has this incredible story is an immigrant story. J on DARA is the singer. And the record is tales of America. We've got one more album that we wanna play on this week show. But I. Stew quick lightning round of some of the other notable releases for February fifteenth. There's this beautiful record by the ambient artists. Johnny Nash outright. Now, it's called make a wilderness just really beautiful record the singer Noddy Natasha reggae tone, artists her debut album luminosity is out right now. And if you've not heard of her the singles that she dropped a head of this record have been streamed more than a billion times Notting tasha is a singer. There's a great guitar rock record out right now from the artist Betty who the album is called Betty, an Averill Levin. Ever Levin is back with a new album called head above water that I was really surprised by a really solid record from ever living. Yeah. There's a lot of stuff out on February fifteenth. You can go a lot of different directions, the Tedeschi trucks band. Big Blue's rock band has a new album called signs the synth pop band lady Tron is back with a self titled record. It's I in eight years singer songwriter, named Hayes Carl who's really really impressive lyricist has a new album called what it is and two very very different country records. Noting the Texas singer songwriter, Dale Watson who plays very kind of vintage old time classic country. His new miss call me lucky, and then you've got all over country radio for years now, Florida Georgia line, they've got an called kit say ain't country and can't say, they ain't. All those records are out February fifteenth along with our last record that we wanna play comes from the singer, Robert Ellis. His new album is called Texas, piano. Man. Heavy you love. You're trying to convince but you've already made up your mind. This look familiar. Having that same conversation in the car. It's the same situation. Moving. Donny. Robert Ellis is the singer. This new record is called Texas peon fitting title, the song is called there. You are in Stephen. I've always thought of him as a country singer, some of his early work even had a real twain to voice, you know. And this is not that he is a really inventive guy. And he has played around with his identity from record a record and this album, Texas, piano man as its title suggests kind of recasts him as this very stylish troubadour with a sound that is straddling all sorts of eras. You really land a lot in like classic seventies. Singer-songwriter pop and country. I think it was our colleague LARs got rich who likened him to a cross between gram, Parsons and Elton John. And I think I think there's something to to both sides of that there's a little bit of glam e feel and it's all timeless and really gorgeous Li song. I kept thinking of herring. Nielsen. And I think maybe in part because these songs feel a little subvert. To me. I mean, the take on different meanings, depending on how earnest you think he's playing he sings about lost love and lonely loneliness and regret, but I never quite trust him. And I'm not sure entirely why maybe it's because there are also songs like, I'm f ING crazy on it where they are sort of dark playful at the same time in I feel like he's trying to sort of subtly, disrupt everything. Well, there's there's something about performing kind of almost a costume that you've never worn before that could seem really inauthentic, or it could be a case of somebody who has crafted a persona as something of an unreliable narrator. And he wears that costume well in this is a an all white tuxedo. He's wearing on the cover of his album. He said when he announced this record. He said with Texas people expect a certain thing, and they want a certain thing. And I fought that for a long time. I've realized though that Texas shouldn't be made a category. I wanna redefined to the. Side world what it means to be Texan a little bit Texas forever. This record Texas, piano man from Robert Ellis. All right. Thanks, Steven that you're rub. That'll do it for this week's new music Friday. Remember to tell your friends about the program and check out our new music Friday playlist on Spotify. Just search for NPR music in the Spotify app. You can also see a list of what we talked about in here. 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111819 ATJ in 30

Ace and TJ

26:08 min | 11 months ago

111819 ATJ in 30

"The Ace and TJ radio are the best and most loyal listeners. In the world we see that every year when our listeners step up in amazing ways for Ason Jason. TJ's breaking and entering Christmas. This year we're accepting donations that are tax deductible and we're starting already to ask of our radio family to donate hey to help more families this year for the holidays. If you want to help you can go to Aced J. dot com the ace and TJ APP or Radio Family Charity Dot Org Mark and look for the breaking and entering Christmas donate add. Thank you for your support. Inner to win with the new. AC TJ radio family. Mondays download our APP. Opt to enter and each week will pick one random name in read it on the air sometime after seven. Forty Five A. M. Eastern. If you hear your name you'll have fifteen minutes to call in and two eight eight eight four one. TJ from the Mothership Market of Charlotte North Carolina. Take thirty PODCASTS. Here's your hey it's Harrison Fillon rob today. We've got a great. At Jan thirty four you We got people from low crazier side. Something called I'll show you crazy. And then later on we got one in done compliments. He received the only reason ever received once it but first up. We got riggins Dog Walker in theory. PODCAST it took the Act J. Sho- presents a moment with riggins. I can't do bar class like I can barely do a plank. I can't even sit up now. A sit up. I can't sit up. Cj take all morning. I so riggins What has happened when you met your new dog Walker? All we know is that you met your new dog Walker and you said it did not go will what happened. It went so poorly that my stomach hurts the thought of telling this story. Everybody followed the saga. I had my dog Walker for a long time. Got A new new one About a month ago she's been great she's always on time and she does really with my dog so I had met. Her are a couple of months ago. One time very briefly. She asked me she recognized my dog so she goes. Oh I've walked him before and for the purposes of the story Lori let's call her Katie. It's not her real name but you'll understand what happened to use a fake name for the dog Walker. It's that bad yes. The cells is use a service. That's how she would have walked dog and you're not physically met her exactly okay. So but now she has been walking him every day for two months and on Saturday on Friday night I am walking the dog in the evening and and I walked past the vet. That's near me. He stops at the door because the vet techs and the veterinarian will come out and give them a treat so he knows that like stop the doors of the vet because he loves it so he sits down and a girl not the vet tech comes running out with the treating her hand to give them one and she goes hi. I'm Katie. I'm your dog Walker and I went. Oh It's good to see. I didn't recognize her but she's real cute like knockout. And she's we're we're talking about the dog and she's petting him and he's loving her and all that stuff my great she says Also write my number down so you can text next me in case you ever need somebody in the blink of an eye or if you need to house sit or whatever some okay so type in Katie put a number in and she goes in just text me later so I'll have your number 'cause through the APP. It works differently so my great. This is perfect. I get upstairs. Go to type out a text message I type in Katie Bunk at the center type in the message. Hey Katie good to meet you again again. Ha Ha I appreciate. You always take good care of my dog I'll see you soon. Ten minutes goes by fifteen. Eighteen minutes goes by being. I get text message back and it says hey mother blinker good to hear from you again. Lose my number two years ago on the road in different. Katie I hooked up with a girl named Katie on from tender. It was a week long intense relationship that ended very poorly with me with her calling me and cussing me out like S- Obama fly woodland on me right. Cuss me out to the to the Hilt I. I'm shaking Tony. The story now so what I read this message and at first I'm confused. I went through my phone across them. I like threw it out like that hot potato. I I'm like my hands are shaking right now thinking about it. 'CAUSE who I'm like really freaking out. I ended it so not cool and she was a little crazy. which Kinda that's why? He was so intense for like a week. uh-huh we were seeing each other every day. Like you know going out and stuff and you know doing all that kind of stuff but for some reason my phone did not distinguish distinguish the two different. Katie's that I had and I would never even knew never even knew so I did did not respond. Of course I didn't respond but it was just the most horrible thing that's ever happened to me. Stay with somebody that I don't see any more okay. So Katie let's say X.. Just for the purposes of the story here. Yeah Chances are listening in our knowing that you're talking about this on the radio right now. What would you say twenty twenty percent Oklahoma? So didn't want to respond. Didn't want to get into that. Whatever now did you then text the real Katie the new Katie? Or were you so distraught that you didn't even go back and text the dog Walker. Katie didn't even respond to the Rio. Katie when you got to do that I will I I will but that was like she was just hit me up so I can have your number so if you ever need anything but I I'm telling you like it took me a good ten seconds I think like what is she talking about. And she's calling me a blank blank or lose my number and I just seen Katie ten minutes ago and at the moment it hit me. That's the girl. Did you delete her number. So you don't make that mistake again. Yeah we'll good good. Hey good to hear from you again lose my number blank blank blank blank. And she's not wrong like it. She was like she was wild. Wild what did you do. She started getting a little too much for you and then you he goes through or whatever I didn't go stir at all like I couldn't have. We hung out for a week like everyday lunch and dinner during the week. You know how crazy that is for me but it was intense she. She was saying crazy things that I never heard from any other girl for doing things. Such girls weren't doing so I was like Gaga for and then one day I couldn't make dinner for with her and she lit me up on the way out of work. I was driving down the interstate and she lit me up so I was like. I'm not awesome that anymore which I don't know I could handle it a lot better but she was crazy right and I was like you know nuts for all right so anyway. That's my story will. That's all thank you Johnny Nash. National never do this is the ace and TJ in thirty podcast coming up on the TJ. Show Friday we met a lady was going on her first date or the guy that she met it. Is it a fake facebook dating. So we're going to check back in with her and see how that turned out. She was very excited about it to tell us her her story. So we're looking forward to finding out how that worked out and if you are a member of the ace and TJ radio family who entered the contest through our APP that were having for this week. It's your chance to win. Five hundred dollars. You are listening for a name. We will announce that name sometime in the next few minutes or so. When we say your name you will have fifteen minutes to call and if you call within fifty minutes you five hundred dollars very simple contest through our APP? You don't have our APP. You can download free in your APP store sponsored by Papa. John's on what did your ex put too much importance. You had to end it because he put too much importance on this and not enough attention attention to you Not Cheating or anything like that F.. This is This is a good example of what we're talking about. Meg says the dog too much importance on the dog. He now lives with his dog alone. that that's a that's a good one. It's also a touchy one. People go No she dare say anything bad about about a dog but I know a lot of dogs that have ruined relate not the dog. Didn't ruin the ray relationship. The person who couldn't control their attention and I gave to the dog ruined. The relationship is the good one drinking. He would be wasted on a Tuesday night at the age of thirty MHM judge that one. Yeah okay there's one here though. That is so so weird. She said She caught him watching Piano playing xrays What piano playing looks like if it were an X-ray Yeah I honestly had never heard of that before even either but was he. I mean is that any worse than catching them watching regular P.. I don't think so I don't think so either I think it's worse really. Yeah so out there so mad you know. This latest is He put too much a Importance on me gave her too much attention. Oh there ain't no status thing that means that she was just must have been up to no good No I'm kidding. Naked being all kinds of stuff like him. He didn't want her going anywhere. He wanted to know her whereabouts at all time. Who you talking to who it is that you know that kind of he put too much attention on his mom? I dated him for a while. He was Super Nice. Had everything going for him. I moved into my new apartment. I ask him if you wanted to come stay the night. He told me he'd have to ask his mom. I was like what He said he always involved his mom and everything we'd go out to dinner. He'd call his mom and let her know where we were going ahead of time. We meet after work and hang out. He call his mom. We decide on the spur of the moment to go to the movies. He had called her Mama. And who's going to the movies. Oh no this is a really good when he put too much attention on his ex facebook stalking not ignoring her drama. Clearly he wasn't over her. You put too much importance on whatever your ex is doing then. Yeah you'RE GONNA and you'RE GONNA end up losing the one that you're dating even if you're looking at your ex and talking crap about how much you're glad you're over her and and rid of her. It's still let it go. Those are fascinating that's crazy. Yeah because if you WANNA lose the woman's interest in a hurry stop paying attention to you're good point. Get a new dog right SAS wait. I'm sorry Ooh your boyfriend did that. But you're still forget you're still on the line. He's hasn't stopped paying attention to you know on on the nights he wants to all right so coming up on. Now trending with Regan's officers that cocaine is not mine. That cocaine is not mind. My window was open and I was dragged listened. The best story of the day is in now trending in less than ten minutes. This is the ace and Tj show. Thirty hey thanks for listening coming up I'll show you crazy. Is The thirty podcast. This is the ACE and TV and thirty podcast now. Jason Dj on demand on case and TJ DOT COM TJ APP or through. I heart radio never duplicate crunch of Papa. John's brand new garlic Parmesan crust. Fresh never frozen original dough topped with Parmesan Papa. John's famous garlic sauce if a fabulous dog with crazy over bell imagine the tizzy throw over this growth. Get a one topping pizza with a new garlic Parmesan on crosswords. Just ten bucks better ingredients. That are Pizza Papa. John's not battling with discounts fees and tax extra prices vary Rodin and fields has been named the number one premium skin. Care Line North America for the last three years. There's something for every skin concern now at ace. TJ Dot com click click the Rodin and fields add on our partners page. There's a sixty day. Money back guarantee and new monthly specials go to a C. J. dot com and click the road road and fields. Add on our partners. Page coming up on the TJ show. has anyone ever told you. Your toes does look like sunflowers. What's a compliment? You've received one time and one time only it's called ace and Tj's one and done in about thirty minutes on the ice and TJ show. So we ask. I'll show you crazy. What happened when he called you crazy? Oh my Gosh This lady said Well anonymous please. I ran over a guy's foot Afrikaner. Christ I also wrote the word. The W word in cursive with lighter fluid in a girl's yard after she called me crazy. The ended lit it on fire so it was permanent. What course that's not crazy? The guy with the foot was fine. Yeah the girl was. It's not a not a good person. wrote the W word in her front yard in big letters and then lit it on fire. Burn for the whole neighborhood to see this lady says one time When my boyfriend now husband and I got into a fight about six years ago we were in the car and he called me crazy and it threw me over the guy said? Oh you think I'm crazy. How crazy would it be about? Drove US right in front of that diesel then acted like hours going to and he called his mom to come rescue him. But then that made me even crazier and I smacked this phone out of his hand. We had a very large break from each other to reevaluate it. We were good for each other's sanity or not. I never dreamed I'd do that stuff but I was definitely acting crazy. It's always always the way it is like. I have no idea. Look what you made me do. You're being crazy and she's like how drivers in front of that hold up so you see ladies doesn't just because somebody breaks one of the women rules doesn't mean that you are then excused used from you know whatever repercussions would come from doing what you're GonNa do for example just because he called you crazy doesn't mean that you can abuse him or attack him physically or destroy his property. It's still illegal to do that. Just because somebody said a word and I think the more if guys would press charges own women. They'd stop doing our way. Say that he cheated on me so I busted out the windows when does in his truck and keyed. Okay well if you had you arrested for destruction of property the next friend of yours. That got cheated on wouldn't wouldn't do that. Go jail put them in jail. How crazy going be in jail? That's what I WANNA know. Keep me anonymous. Nana my husband calls me crazy. While we were driving down the highway I looked around a major. Nothing was around us or behind us and I said crazy seriously. You you WANNA see crazy. I'll show you crazy. You have no idea what crazy is and on the highway. She just slammed on the brakes slinging. Everything forward stopped. The car just began screaming while cars had caught up to the winning by. They're they're sitting in a four lane. Ours is coming up swerving around Washington Washington. They're screaming at proved him wrong. Yeah none of US Lucie. Welcome to the show Paul. Hey we've got about sixty seconds. I'll show you crazy. What did you do your ex-husband? When he said you were crazy? I suspected my ex-husband was actually a senior. Mommy and what happened is I. Put a tracker background his car and when I followed him actually saw him at another woman Pal philly ended up calling the cops and because he he's in the military. I ended up actually reporting him to the military police. What he called you crazy? You literally bug his car. Yeah it worked out okay. That's fair responding. Yeah well when you call somebody crazy and you beat them and make them feel like they're actually crazy or you try and do something to prove them wrong right true. Thank you lucy. Thanks for calling Dr Kinda felt like we have a moment there that the yeah well she caught him so she wasn't wrong and let me take take it one one more to go over the top was he is they said anonymous. Please backstory. Her husband had his side chick bring him home and after sixteen hour shift I was she was cutting up food and he started trying to talk to her and she said Don't upset me a while. I'm holding a knife. He said you're crazy when he turned his back. She stabbed him with a steak knife in the back. What okay come on ladies can't do? She said she realizes now that it was wrong but he called her craze. He's not supposed host the do that. She said I showed him exactly. What crazy looked like Now you have something to share the rest of the day coming up on now. Trending with Regan's Okay I'm like blown away by that. We will get to all the top trending topics in less than ten minutes in now trend. It is the TJ show. TJ's grandkids videos are sponsored by KML. dun-rite go to jail dun-rite dot com for all your roofing. Restoration needs more. TJ The gas off the TJ APP is your source for streaming more show after the show live each weekday at ten A. M. Eastern turn four download the more show after. Show podcast stay connected funny on the AC TJ APP available at play right. So what was the weird. You're the compliment. You received one time and never again you remember it because it was so weird or out or out of place and I thought it was going to be mostly all women and there's a lot of guys in here too. Yeah I I knew that we would get Some of these. This is one that I've never heard presented this way before guy I used to work with This is what the The lady says I wore heels and he was staring Internet me one day. He came up and asked what size shoe a war. And I said That I ended said that I had the most beautiful arch he hit ever seen. Oh Oh gosh. Because usually the foot freak guys will go for the accomplishment on the toes rather than the arch. Oh you got a beautiful arch Ming Limbs of the Real Golden Arches. He right there just now. I was at the gym a couple of months ago. I was on the shoulder. Press after I got done this guy walked over and said hey what's up. Honestly they've been how you doing. He said pretty good. I just wanted to say you've got really nice. Nice armpit hair. Oh he goes. I didn't know what to do or say after that so it was awkward. I just walked away. It was super we. What was the guy expecting the reaction to be to it a compliment like that? I mean he's was. Oh thanks It's just so we try to keep a conditioned off. Brush it out a a few years ago. I was in a bar and a woman came up to me and she said looking into your eyes reminds me of skinny dipping in the Caribbean is. It was pretty weird. I did did not know how to respond to them. Look again if you don't WanNa do this because you wanna just get away or it's creepy or whatever but try to follow up with a question to get them to explain more because a Lotta Times it'll throw him off guard. Iv Looking reminds me of skinny dipping in the Caribbean Ribian. If he'd say how so 'cause I wanted skinny dip with you in the Caribbean Rian. You know you gotTA throw them off to make them make them respond on their feet. And they'll a lot of times prove themselves themselves to be dumb 'cause Now I don't know how this works out but the lady sent a message that said the older women minner freaks that she says my guy does landscaping and the story. He tells me about rich. Grandma's for example one lady asked him to come inside to move a table for four and she kept having him move it to different places in our house. I dislike watching you work. I appreciate ashamed but I gotta go of it. It's not a specific. I just like watching. You are rotated elicit this is my favorite one. LISTEN LADIES YOU'RE GONNA. I love this. What lady wouldn't swoon? For this one I was playing the piano with a guy in the middle of it. He tells me he can't tell I had had three babies at all. Six thirty five at noon. Subscribe now Jason. TJ On demand now tunes. Hey it's TJ. And I wanNA tell you about my recent stay at the Ballantyne on the second you walk in you know you're in a fancy hotel is not only beautiful but the staff goes out of their way to make sure you have the most luxurious luxuriance experience of your life to go to the Ballantyne Dot Com and see all the great things. You can enjoy everything from their SPA to golf. 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#27  Wolno, czyli moment wyboru

Ze stoickim spokojem

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#27 Wolno, czyli moment wyboru

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Muses Ep 123: Rita and Bob Marley

Rock N Roll Archaeology

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Muses Ep 123: Rita and Bob Marley

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Hello and welcome to another episode of Muses. Hello I Am Your Co host shanty and your other co host links. Hello we want to start off today by thanking a couple of a new patrons. Thank you so much for your support. Even I know January in the beginning of the year is kind of a tough time to start startup new subscriptions. But we really appreciate that you are investing in us so we want to thank Darlene. Caleb love that name Melanie. This is my Sui trend. Melania that I know thank you my love and chase guess. Thank you so much and I actually know. Oh Caleb we worked at Massey Hall together and he is a musician a really talented musician and he goes under the name. The Sun Harmonic so people should checkpoint. Oh I know that yeah oh cool right on so links. I had a fantastic day today when we messaged in day was like what time are you coming over and you told me I was like no worries. I'm just having a nice afternoon bath. 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I just was in the mood to add a little bit of bronze ing and I've been really maybe it's because we're have this upcoming move to the farm that I'm just feeling so natural into all these kind of different for natural ways to feel good and stayed nourished and I've been really enjoying my dark roots so I've been trying to tap into my natural hair color. I think since you've known me I've been blonde but I think that it might be time to just go back and a part of me wants to go to the drugstore doc. Store and get a boss die of Brown Brunette. I don't know if that's a good idea though. I probably shouldn't do that. Yeah I wouldn't if you're not used to it especially of dying Leon. Yeah I know I'm almost anxious like I don't know should I be Brunette when we go to. La Something to think about. It's coming up. And if I was Brunette Brunette than we could definitely do the Simon and Garfunkel album cover. Yeah and then the other amazing thing that I did today was this morning. I made my very first coffee tonic. So I won't tell you the secret of exactly what's in it because somebody created it and made it in a selling how to make these coffee tonics and essentially it's just using rose hip or nettle and adding a fat like a ghee or butter in two eight your coconut milk and milk and then putting it all together and making this really frothy beautiful coffee infusions so that sounds delicious. Yeah that's how I've been living my life these days. That's amazing well. You've got an episode for us today. Do my first of twenty twenty. I'm going to talk about Rita and Bob Marley and they have a really interesting fantastic crazy story story so I can't wait to hear about them. Are we starting off with the song yes started with. Could this be love I do okay all right well for this episode. I read Rita Marley's book. She wrote a memoir in two thousand thirteen gene called no woman. No cry my life with Bob. Marley fairly recent yeah. I liked that so her book isn't always written in the order. That things happened and I've done my best to put it in the order. Some things may be a little out of line but this is all her story and you know do my best to make part of the researching process I appreciate when a book is Non Linear it does give it a little bit of extra. I mean I like them both but I think it does make more sense when we do take what we've read and we do put it in a linear fashion and follow that kind of Schema of early life and and up until when they met their roster bs all right and it does make for an interesting breed when they do that. Yeah all right well Rita Marley. She was born Alfa Reta Constantia Anderson on July twenty fifth nineteen forty six in Cuba but she grew up in a neighborhood in a neighborhood called. Trench town. Which is located in Kingston Jamaica is in the one that Bob was always singing about in Bob? They they lived there together. All right in her book she describes the neighborhood as a ghetto that was full of thugs thugs and thieves killers. Sex Workers Gamblers but along with some of the bad was a lot of good and she learned very early on how to survive. And to do so you you have to be smart. You have to be ambitious. You have to be strong so those are really important things to her so anita was five years old. Her mother left so it was her father along with her brother Wesley. His name was Leroy Anderson. He was a carpenter and a musician and and his sister Viola agreed to take him and his kids in to live with her so she was really close to Viola and her grandmother growing up as well. So Rita's aunt sounds like a really great woman an incredible role model. She was a dressmaker of wedding clothes. And and they lived in one of the nicest houses in the neighborhood. Viola was the neighbor. Go to for any issues. She helps solve them. She created a weekly lottery three for the neighborhood where they would all put their money in and they would have a draw at the end of each week and she made sure everyone in the area voted as well so she was a really awesome Head of her time kind of woman. Great now reader's own. Mother never acted like one so having viola there she really got the love and you know female attention that she needed growing up. She was sort of her surrogate mother. Viola was also musical. She sang in the church choir and her uncle. Cleveland was also a singer so it was quite a musical family reader herself. How voice so very early on Viola was teaching her songs putting her in the church choir? All of that Jamaica had two radio stations and on Saturday one of them had a program called opportunity knocks where people all over would be giving opportunities that they were searching searching for so when Rita was ten she got on the show and she got to sing and won the contest. Oh Yeah so from that day on. Rita had the stream of being a singer. So things aren't always easy growing up though. Rita learned early on very early on about discrimination at school. The kids called her. Blackie toot suit. Because she had very dark skin in very white teeth oh so she talks on the book about Jamaica having this really long history of color consciousness racial struggle even just skin tones matter okay So it was also difficult for families to stay together and keep afloat financially. So what would happen was usually in Jamaica one or more family members would move to places just like the US or the UK for opportunities and then send money home to help the family back home. So when Rita was approaching her teen years her father decided go to England to help the family so reader and her brother assumed that they would be sent for in about a year or two but finances made that impossible. Her father other did keep in touch but she didn't see him again for more than ten years. How so this made her relationship with her aunt all the more important? She writes anti meant so much to me because she gave me the reason to be a tower of strength. She gave me that ambitious feeling. She'd say just because your mother left you and your father's gone doesn't mean you'll be nobody. I'm anti you're going to be someone anti so. When she was fourteen another passed away and she had a son who's eleven named Constantine or they call them Dream Walker and he came to live with them as well so they had grown up together and they were really close and her aunt had begun to teach them how to harmonize so in the evenings they would listen to the radio and perform all the songs together? They would get a station for Miami. That played things like Otis Redding Sam Cooke Tina Turner the supremes so all the goodies from America would influence her as well as the Scott downs of trench town. So her Jayme. We're getting so good that they began performing for the neighbors at half a penny apiece half a penny in Jamaica. The public education system is only free through elementary school but not everyone gets a full education. It was really interesting reading her book and Learning About Jamaica and you know from the forties onward and their progress and things they really fascinating book for anyone who wants to read more about that. It was really interesting so rita ended up getting a half scholarship and her aunt agreed to help pay for for the other half amazing. Yes she said that after a while they had coupled trouble though keeping up with the schoolbooks lunch money and all that so her brother Wesley who was in college at the time he got a day job and continued his schooling at night in order to help Rita. Wow yeah so by seventeen. They felt a responsibility though to pay her own way because she'd been living off her aunt for so long and her brother now so while she still wanted to be a singer she knew that she had to also be practical so she left high school and went straight into nursing school and she also enrolled in night school to learn shorthand and and typing in hopes of getting a secretarial job. So Rita's really on a path of making something for ourselves. So what should happen to sidetrack. All this she Meets a guy gets pregnant. You're right so she just begun weakening at Kingston's hospital than at eighteen years old. She gets pregnant. Rita talks about how much shame she felt. Teenage sexuality was just not something the thing that was okay. Yeah and her aunt was really disappointed in her family. Felt the same and they sent the boy off to England which was another huge huge blow for Rita so she says you know. They weren't love and they wanted to keep the baby. Though everyone around them was insisting she terminate but she refused and in November member of nineteen sixty four nineteen year old Rita had her first child who she named Sharon so though her aunt look good at that was her choice. Yes and she interesting that she had the in a way an option. Yeah and that's that was her choice. I was okay. Hey good and of course. Even though her aunt was not happy about the situation once Sharon arrived she fell in love with her. And things got better so with read out of school and not working in her main focus was her daughter and music pearn dream. We're still constantly singing at home and a girlfriend of hers named Arlene began to join them so they kind of formed this group. They were big fans of a group that were in Jamaica called the whaling whalers who were also a trio though three men and they were quoted not far from where she lived lived so she made it a mission to meet them they would pass her house on the way to the studio and she began to talk to them until one day she was like. I'm also a singer. Did you ever go on a mission mission to meet opposition. That's why did I remember those days. Like seeing a photo of someone or listening to to abandon then like making it my mission to either meet them or befriend them and then and then accomplished with an accomplishing it. Of course best feeling ever yes. That happened happen many times. That was my entire team years so she was like gamma singer and they were like Oh like why. Don't you perform for us so one of Wailers Robbie who come to the studio audition. Here's this man. Known as Sir Cox owner who owned one of the recording studios in town some raiders. He does father's friends also knew this cock zone man so it was set up for her and her friend and cousin to go and audition sing some songs for him and for the whalers so robby played guitar for them. It went really well so rita. Marlene and dream became the backing vocal team for the studio. Oh a side note about dream. He was only thirteen happening and the guys decided he needed a new nickname because they said only old men have dreams. The young men have visions so he became vision. That's cute yeah so rita talks of studio one being this wonderful creative space where everyone had a voice and a creative energy was just so wonderful. They'd be there all day and night but no one would complain because it was just so much fun right. They were now the whalers backing backing vocals but they also did backing work for other musicians. Who would come to the studio so they became known as the sole? Let's Cox suggested that Robbie helped train rain and rehearse them in this rita began having some feelings for this man. So this man is named Robert Nesta Marley. So Robert Moore Bob Bob as we know him. Bob was born on February. Six nineteen forty five. His father was captain Norval Sinclair Marley. A white retired hired British naval captain. who was close to sixty years old when he impregnated Bob's mother sadullah Malcolm who was only seventeen at the time? Yeah Yeah So. By the time city. They called her was linked stare. I don't know what you're saying. That by the time city was nineteen. She was married impregnated and ambandoned abandoned by the captain. Course Yep according to read Bob Claim team only ever met his father wants but like Rita he had this extended family on his mother's side. Who helped raise him? Yeah so Rita says that at first. Her relationship with Bob was more affectionate in a brother. Sister type type of way she was a young mother. Shouldn't exactly know how to navigate that situation and she really did feel all this shame of being an unwed teenage mom so she kept her child a secret from everyone at the studio but one day she was working. and run of. Rita's breasts started to leak. And Bob I noticed and she says he immediately started asking questions about the child. Is it a boy or girl. Where is she? Why did you keep her a secret? Where's the father can meet her so she says she felt concern and care coming from him and she was really impressed? Considering Bob was also still a teenager at this point he lives a year older than Rita. That's only during with the age. Difference was cool so right now I'd say they're like nineteen twenty. She says his interest in her child made her feel proud instead of ashamed and he told her go take a break go home feed Sharon that he would see her later and he did. He showed up at her house that evening so he could meet baby Sharon right so it was that moment that redes- feelings went from like a sisterly thing to something stronger and they became Kinda bonded. Sharon was about five months old and Rita was still corresponding with the father of Sharon. Who was in England? But Bob actually had issues with that and was like you gotTa stop. Stop writing him like he isn't helping to care for your child. He isn't here for you and she did what he asked like. She stopped writing him so bob began caring for them. He would bring them what little money or food he could to help them. In Rita's words. She says and so though. I didn't expect this. I became his as as in. Okay now guys this is my girl. Yeah so I'm having a little bit of mixed feelings you're GonNa have a lot of that in this Because I can only see some foreshadowing but I don't know sometimes I'm surprised and sometimes I get surprised so I'm not quite sure what to expect. Expect which is a good thing. It's making for a good story. They had a unique relationship. We'll get onto that okay. So the whalers released their first album album the wailing wailers in nineteen sixty five with Rita and the soul doing backing vocals. They also began performing live with the band which read it absolutely loved she. I has never experienced concerts in dance halls and things so like all of that was getting bigger and super exciting for her and in no time at all the wheelers were the number one male group in Jamaica and the soul. That's getting a good amount of attention as well. Interestingly as a couple they're both very serious about one another from the get-go oh and seem to understand that. This was a partnership but rita says even in those early days. Bob had other women. So yes right. Yes she knew about them but he never brought them around her and he cared about her so much and that they spent so much time together at the studio and staff Athen when he was carrying for Sharon and Rita she just she just didn't care. These other women didn't bother multitask apparently asking again. He ever so she writes about their feelings growing stronger for one another and I thought I'd share this beautiful little piece that she wrote. Bob Made me want to try. I trusting my musical instincts making me responsible for harmonies but demanding perfection. We were rehearsing in this little cove. and Oh suddenly we were so taking away looking into each other's eyes and singing and then we put our mouths to each other's we were still singing as if we were giving oxygen to each other and I'm thinking king is this love. The song with that title hadn't even been written yet. Is this love. And then we were kissing and laughing and looking into each each other's eyes and I'm thinking wow this is magic this is magic. I'm in love with this. I love him. We love each other the moment you realize you love someone. I love that and thinking about this yesterday. I'm so I consider myself so fortunate and I'm so grateful that I have experienced love with a few different people like a real serious. I'm talking about not the love that that I thought that was love and realized later in maturity that it wasn't love but actual like immaturity knowing that was loved that was loved that and then that just reminded reminded me of the moment. You realize I love this person. I love that. She managed to remember and capture that moment and share for it and I thought I play a little clip here of song that Bob and Rita recorded together around this time called. Hold onto this feeling. Let's do it. Galvin I see your name next to a So as I mentioned Rita experience racism because of her dark skin and then the book she says that Bob Bob really helped her embrace her beauty as a black woman. She says. Bob Began to show me the roster way to live your Queen Black Queen. You're pretty just awesome are you. Don't need anything else. You don't have to straighten your hair. You should wear it natural so apparently being a rastafarian was like the worst thing you could be in Jamaica. Oh which I never knew no of course not so. People looked at the RASA way of life. The way like straight-laced Americans Erkin looked at hippies back in the sixty dirty good for nothing lazy smoking joints the you know that kind of thing but for Rita it was really a revelation that made her embrace herself and be happy in her own skin. Her aunt and her brother weren't happy about it and she actually says that her brother was so angry that he you argued over it with her and slapped her in the face while that's how anti Rasta people were back then yet it's an is interesting on brothers takeover a paternal role. Yeah Yeah for sure but Rita was really happy and determined to live life the way she wanted so she was like too bad So Bob and Rita that got married on impulse. Oh Yeah I was just going to save all Yup. You're right impulse. February tenth nineteen sixty six. Rita was nineteen. I believe and Bob twenty-one so this was because Bob's mother sent for him from America. BOB REFUSED TO LEAVE WITHOUT MARRYING RITA. I for fear that someone someone would find her and take her away grave. Reason great in I feel like so many people got married like that in the wars. Well and then yeah. Yeah so they plan for him to sponsor her when he got to Delaware which is where his mother was living. They performed a show on their wedding night and the a bill with Jackson five which I thought was okay. Hold off surprises. They would open for a lot of bigger names. That came to Jamaica Eh. Because they are kind of the big band in Jamaica. Yeah so she says was really happy day and they made love all night. In two days later Bob left for Delaware they they wrote each other almost every day and read. It continued doing background singing for other artists. Imbaba's working as well. He worked first in a Chrysler factory and then a hotel before he he was like you know what America is not for me so he really long to be back with Rita and about eight months later he abandoned Delaware and came back to Jamaica. Okay so I'm GONNA play a clip from one of the first songs Bob recorded when he got home about him and read. It's called Nice time. uh-huh aw the right. So yeah one ball came home back to music and back to business and they were really smart and knew do that to keep the rights to their music. They had to start their own company. which is exactly what he did was called them named after the whalers and the so? Let's at one point wave. They were producing and manufacturing their own records. Bob and Rita. We're living at readers aunt's house still. Her aunt actually added a room on which face the the road for them to live in before they were married. Rita's at was getting so angry because Bob would kind of sneak in staffing but finally they're married so she accepted okay so she she put this little room in the front which faces the road and in the day they would curtain off part of it and make it into a little record shop and they actually sold their records that added that I love that right invasion so cool so she said there'd be days where they sold three records and then others they sold as many as twenty five and they created aided this little cage cashier's booth and there are now two replicas of that cage one. At the Bob Marley Museum in Kingston and one at Universal Studios in Orlando. Hey I like really part of their history and Rita would also make deliveries of records on her bike cute. So it's so surprised I read. His aunt became him or her aunt's place became the centre of social scene with Bob's friends and musicians hanging around all the time they'd be played music. Smoking joints playing soccer eating getting all of antiques food. They were getting a successful but they're still really struggling financially. They didn't pay rent but they pay d'Electricite bills and Rita says that she spent a lot of time worrying worrying about them making ends meet especially because she relied so much on her aunt and she wanted to give back to her aunt. You know. Oh totally understandable so readers really worrying worrying about things now so what happens to two young lovers worrying about the future. You're struggling comes Bob and then in the baby carriage yes. I'm good at this game. Yes so yeah. They were still struggling. I'm Bob was feeling like he needed to step up as a man in a father and like he was like we need to cut ties. We need to move out into our unit like we need to be our own family. Let's stop relying hang on your aunt. Things were getting stressful because her aunt was kind of critical on them for a while so by wanted to move back to his hometown which was Saint Anne while everyone I thought they were crazy. Rita was like I'm standing by man. I'm moving with him and they went to live in this House that Bob's father had given his mother which stood empty since since his mother was still in America so this house had no water no electricity but who needs those things when you're young than love exactly so they make the move and redefines out right away like whatever warning her about. She writes when I got inside and I saw there was no kitchen or toilet. I thought Oh my God. What had I get myself into? The smell of the place. Nauseated me whatever it is I thought that's my husband this. This is what my husband has. And that's what I have to accept. I felt felt like I'd entered a different world while she certainly had but the next day they got to work they rigged up a beds. Some boards and logs. They prepared a kitchen. One thing that really are we sustained. Rita was how welcoming the whole town had been like when they arrived. The town was like singing and like welcoming them and the whole town pitched in to help make their home. Nice to community unity right there. Yeah it sounds really nice and read a made her stronger and want to stay so in no time at all. They were kind of flourishing. They're feeling like adults for the first time they got their first home. They began growing their own food and had a pet donkey which rita would actually ride to like from the farm to the village. Tell me there's a picture of that. We should look it up okay. Rita would still visit her aunt. Every few weeks go to Kingston check on the records that they were selling and was their only source of income at the time so she would bring home whatever supplies they needed with what little money they had about a month before the baby was do though they moved back to Kingston to make sure the baby would be delivered safely and Sadullah Marley was born August. Twenty third nineteen sixty seven. She was named after. Bob Marla Mum Oh and they also gave her a nickname though which was nice time just like the song that we just played them. mm-hmm so back in Kingston. And she's had her baby. They both decide to kind of pick up their musical career again. Real Rita realized music was more than just just a financial gain for her but something she needed to do. It was in her blood her friend and cousin who were in the group they both emigrated to the US. So Rita Rita how to find two other women and they formed a group. They were opening shows a lot. They've traveled to Canada to play. Apparently and Bob would travel with them as security until the whalers put out another album so soon. Both at the acts were touring together. All around the Caribbean and when they were away. Rita's aunt would take care of her. Kids kids okay. Thank you andy. Yes things are moving fast enough. Though for Rita they were still living trench down. She didn't like the idea of her children growing up there in property all four of them are still living in that one room in her aunt's house to top it off. We just pregnant again fertile. Myrtle thankfully a change happens. When you're twenty two I like I can't even imagine I can't I cannot? I can't even imagine now. So who so. There was a change on the rise Johnny. Nash was an American singer. He was looking for new material for his company. J Records Jad records records and he came to Jamaica so bob began working with Jad and finally kind of seeing. US dollars for the first first time. And the marlins became friends with Johnny Nash and his wife Margaret but Rita actually was noticing things that kind of bothered her. And this kind of is I guess foreshadowing foreshadowing for the rest of their time together as well. She talks about being at their home and Johnny being surrounded by groupies while his wife would be in the other room like on the phone talking about business. Jason stuff like she just accepted it. She wondered if that was like what it was like in America for all women because she had no idea and it kind of made her insecure. The answer's Yes. That's what it was like in America for all all rock wives raise so rita. How are things on her mind though like the delivery of her her son David? What's happened? October seventeenth nineteen sixty eight. David would become known as Ziggy Marley. I was wondering if ziggy would be their. They are child or if Bob would go on and have children with other women jubilee does but I wasn't sure if our ziggy was ziggy. Is One of her okay. So work with jive records was going well and they were soon issued passports and visas to come to work in the states. They plan to stay in Delaware with Bob's mom before heading to New York work the kids were coming with them to luckily though Bob Mum Bob's mom ran a daycare. So that helped with the kids when Bob and Rita went to New York doc so we did talks about seeing New York for the first time. And how like. Why'd I didn't crazy? It was for her. She'd only known of America through movies and that paints a certain picture her for instance. She was shocked to see how many people were around. Who looked like her and even more shocked to see homeless people in America? Do you wish she shocked because in the movies yeah they're not showing Homelessness Measuring homelessness representation of minorities is not. I mean eighteen yard. There was some of that but not enough certainly for the homeless thing. She thought that only happened in trench town like that is a ghetto. But America's like this rich nation like surely they don't have homeless people right so read a met up with her friend Margaret. Who took her shopping up like an American woman so she had this new kind of polished looking? She was having fun so their music. Business in the sixties like so many other artists we know the label told them like your fans. I can't know yet you're married right. That's going to affect sales so Bob told the magazine Rita was her sister and to learn that by reading it and was not so pleased about that either but she was like you know what I'm GonNa stuff otherwise it's going to affect me right. Yeah you could think like if that's what you're being told by these people than the greater good so ridiculous. So long they worked for Jad records the more. They realized it wasn't the place for them though. They used Bob songwriting skills for other artists. They wanted to make Johnny Nash. The Big Star Bob and since he was working for them he got minimum memorial. -ties because Jad on the copyrights she says almost none of what Bob recorded for them came out in his lifetime. But when Bob died they a flooded the market with it and made a lot of money off of him so they wanted out of their contract and it took some time but there are still and they're still a few hard years ahead of them with Rita really worrying about their future you know. Is The music thing ever going to workout. Are we ever going to get out of my aunt's house by Nineteen seventy-one Rita who was pregnant again and things still weren't looking up in case you're wondering by now Rastafarians do not believe in birth control or abortion so wall. She did not want to add another hungry mouth into the family her beliefs gotten away of that. I guess hey baby number four so to deal with this situation. Rita thought it was best to get out of her poor aunt's house. Who at this point was going nuts at the idea of having another person to help support Rita Rita was to move to Delaware with Bob's mother? Their two daughters was gonna stay behind with her aunt. Yeah exactly what happened. Happened with Bob and Rita when they had to be separated from their parents. It sucks. It's yeah yeah yeah so she she couldn't be with our Kids Zeki or she did take ziggy actually to Delaware he was young. So Bob and the girls were supposed to come later so immediately started working as a nurse when she got to Wilmington. Yes okay but that wasn't enough to pay the bills so she also did housework until she got a job Bob as a live in nurse slash housekeeper for this rich Old Lady. Unfortunately dreams of Bob joining her were dashed when Bob received a draft notice. So because has he had taken out citizenship papers few years before the. US like they wanted him in the military. and Bob wasn't up for that. So the idea of him joining wing her was squashed. Oh my God yeah besides that Baba's desperately wanting to pursue his dreams. Rita says he was writing songs constantly. Really he was writing about her two songs like talking blues. My baby is gone. Baby come on home all those kind of written in that period so as the months when on Rita came closer to her due date and she had never felt more alone. She's out there with Bob's family who are nice. But but it's still like in-laws the distance between her Imbaba's really killing her and affecting their relationship for the first time she was really sensing no optimism for their our future. You know she had a good relationship with his parents but they were kind of old school and she felt that she was being taken advantage of at times. It wasn't an equal partnership. Let's put it that way. So this is a really depressing period for her. She really worked hard until her baby was due and their second son Steven was born April Twentieth Nineteen Seventy-two you right away. She began writing home trying to figure out how to go back there but newsroom. There is also troubling. She learned her from her aunt. That things with Bob weren't so oh good Baba's delivering with the girls. But her aunt said that they're a Nike. Wouldn't even show up. You know he wouldn't come home at all. Yeah one read. It did come home a few months later. She learned. Bob have been dating not WanNa to other women while she was away. Apparently these relationships had actually began begun before Rita laughed. Because guess what but both of those women were pregnant. Oh my goodness clearly bob has like super sperm. So Rita had their son. In April a woman in Pat Williams and Janey hunt had two more boys of Bob's in May -Kay in the book. Rita says I was very upset to learn about all of this though it's common in Jamaica but since then I've come to love both of these boys to think of them as my son wicked cool. Yeah so Rita's on the fence here about like. Should I step away from Bob. Like I'm hurting a lot over this. Do we have a future as a couple you know. Their finances says are up in the air. This is what Rita says in the book. Even though I was in so much pain I did not want to lose my husband I asked myself. Can I hold out I. I knew he loved the kids as much as I did but he was distracted. Because of the pressures there is just too much. Mix up where there's weakness. I have to be strong. I thought strong for the kids. Even if I'm angry as hell Bob I have to be strong for him. I felt I had to take the lead and that we had to try to be friends because we were partners. Now we we're forever connected. We are family. Yeah that sounds that sounds about right. Yeah that like from what I've learned learned about her so far and just I guess how women deal with these kinds of situations in general kind of a little bit of self preservation as well to take that step. Sure for sure and you. You're going to remember reading twenty-five dealing with all this right. She's got what four kids no money. Poor she feels like she has to stick it out. What other option option? Is there really right. So also if she's kind of intuit Ding Bob still having any kind of success. Then yeah you know you don't don't WanNa. Some good news was on the Horizon Bob. Man Named Chris Blackwell. He was the owner of island records. Chris Chris saw that there is talent there and want to try to help him so he gave the whaler some money to go into the studio and put together an album. A deal was finally incite. Blackwell Blackwell have bought a big rundown house that had some acreage and some outbuildings setup and it became sort of hang out rehearsal space for all the musicians and after after the first release they arranged it so bob takeover the property and eventually own the entire piece of land so that was passed onto Bob as final payment payment for his share of the deal that the wheelers signed with island records off. So finally Bob had this house not only that it wasn't entrenched town but in a Kinda swanky area they never imagined being but Rita Foley really apprehensive about it though since it was more of a communal space and with the other whalers is there she says you know there was always girls there and things going on so she didn't really want her kids to be in that environment either so she cited. I'm GONNA hold back. I mean awaited out. I'm going to see how things go. But she would still go there like every day and hang out and everything so the whalers first album catcher fire was an instant hit and the beginning of have really incredible. Things toured England the states. They were opening for like slides family stone in Vegas in Jamaica. They were instant celebrities. Women began moving into the house. Like I said and Rita wasn't stupid. She knew what they wanted. They wanted. She so levelheaded about it though but she says I don't WanNa put put it entirely in a negative way since this opportunity made it possible for him to create what he did so like she knew I guess equal balance right. Good things is come not so good things well you know. He's lucky that he married somebody. So level headed chart and mature because like Yep if it would have been another woman with any kind of other temperament like he would have been in exactly exactly so yeah. Rita was going to the house like for every day. It was house on hope road. I'm going to call it. Hope road from now on so I wanted to make sure that was obvious. She says like Bob didn't even sleep there. There's some nights. He was going home to read a couple of nights a week. He would stay at the. Hope roadhouse or somewhere else other nights money started to roll in and Arita says that Bob was always very generous and always made sure that his family had everything they needed. Bob Kept trying to convince me to to move into the house but that there was little space on the promises that the family could have you know alone and as Rita puts it at this point though I wanted my independence. I wanted to leave if trench town. Yes but not at the expense of myself respect yet. Yeah so what did. She finally started looking for housing outside of her aunt's house. And outside of Bob's place for her and the kids. So Bob wasn't super keen on this but Bob screwing half the women in Jamaica and doesn't have a leg to stand on at this point so he agrees to give the money for her to find a new place so at this point Bob is with a woman named Esther Anderson who was a model in a photographer that I was working with the whalers. And I'm sorry right how she APP for Rita. That one's got hurt. Oh God yeah all of his women were just just unbelievable honestly you can find so many photos of him with other women to so. This woman was helping the record label and the label was using him for her and Bob's relationship as PR. Okay Yeah So. The home that Rita found for them was pretty awful at the time though it was hard to get to. It had no lights no water but that is how strongly lead reading wanted her independence and so on moving day. She stopped by hope road with the kids to kind kind of let bob no like okay. We're like we're moving now. This is where we're moving. And when she got there she ended up having a confrontation with Esther says that Esther answered the door. Baba's sleeping astro got mad at her and was like why are you here. The men sleep and obviously being the wife of the man readers like. Who Do you think you're talking to and Rita actually says that esther was yelling at her? Why don't you stop breathing? All you do is breed. Bob Needs a career. Let him have his life like all this shit before Bob. Bob Finally woke up hearing these women yelling and this all happened in front of the poor kids so rita was like really frazzled. Really upset she was. He's like I'm out of here and that night. She says that Bob actually came to the place and she actually really felt good about it even even again that the place wasn't great but she was like on her own. She was standing up for herself. It was like the first time she truly felt like an adult. They soon got utilities. They were the first in the neighborhood to get them. And that led to the whole community getting them so it was like a victory for ya. Rita's also standing up for her kids telling Bob exactly like what this is. What your family needs? And again he always provided there was never an argument over that and Baba's still paying attention. He would bring her gifts like fruit flowers chocolate. So this is where. It's kind of confusing. Because like it's like they still have a relationship. It's shifting into a different one but I think they were still like intimate sometimes TMZ but then not other times and she understood as she put it that these women were for a time and she was for a lifetime. That's how she she saw it. I think esther was the only one she ever had a confrontation with after that. She says that she made sure to not get in contact with any of them. and Bob made sure their paths wouldn't cross so out of respect to her like he wouldn't flaunt it in her face. Come will I guess something's she. She says it did still hurt at times. Other times their relationship would be going so well that she wouldn't even think about these other women so rita was really embracing her independence though. She put her kids in the school. She made the home. She planted a garden. She got her license which was like a huge deal for her over time. Touring Allot so rita and the kids. It wouldn't seem for a while but when he did come home he was always going over there. To visit them really describes these times as more friendship base. There were still kind of figuring out their new roles in each other's lives lives. Bob was of course seeing other women. But there's always affection between her and Bob I like that. Yeah sometimes physical sometimes not but one thing that continued their musical relationship and trusting. Yeah many times Bob will come to visit. They'd sing or compose together. Apparently Rita actually helped him write a lot of the songs back then and as the kids were going up it became obvious that they shared the talent and passion of the family. So both of them of course really encouraged their kids and they would put on little like Marley shows as they called them in the cellar for friends and family. So with Bob Away as much as he was reading to find other friends and Amusements Schmidt Emmanuel own own Stewart who was known as tacky he was Jamaican soccer star. They developed a close friendship. which did not please Bob which is interesting? I was wondering during if something was going to be happening on her end with Saudi lt because she deserves a relationship right she does a stable one. She says that one time Bob Actually confronted tacky almost getting into a physical altercation and Baba's like you're sleeping with my wife. Ironically Bob shows up with a woman. He's sleeping within. has this fight like in front of her. So you know I guess he can screw whoever he wants but God forbid she does right so it's kind of like those incidents that led rita reaching her limit she says by nineteen seventy-three. Bob was just having so many public affairs. She didn't even want to be physically involved with him anymore. You know knowing he was having God knows however many other women at the same time his behavior also led to her taxis friendship turning into something more so he was really there for her. He saw what she was putting up with. Bob was concerned. He was not amused. So tacky. Really cared about the kids. It was there for them as well. You know anytime Baba's away. So there's there's very alarming and triggering and disappointing incident in the book. Sweat did want to warn people if you don't want to hear here's something negative. Go forward minute. Maybe so Rita says that. There's this incident in her words. She says that she was almost raped but she was definitely raped. She says at that point she'd really drawn the line with Bob. In regards to their sexual relationship it was over. She wanted nothing of it he he came over he wanted to have sex. She said no and she says he said you're my wife and I want to therefore it happened so she she says that happened and guess what no she gets pregnant so her third daughter. Stephanie was born in Nineteen Eighteen. Seventy four so because she was in these other relationships at the time and stuff some people including Bob Marley's mother claimed that Stephanie is not Bob but Bob always claimed her as her his own and Rita clearly believe so as well. I'm only adding name. Because I did more research on their kids online and I saw that okay. But tacky wasn't isn't even listed as a father. Another man is so I don't even know either way again. Bob Saw Stephanie is his and knowing he has super sperm. I'm not Indonesian it right. So Bob Asto providing for the family. They were working out there. ever-shifting relationships still having relationships with others. Rita Rita her own garden was becoming so successful that she ended up going into farming full-time. Nice Yeah Bob mcgarrell yeah. Bob Bought her. A farm agreed attended to it. She grew coconuts. nays bury's star apples oranges Avocados and more all organic and there was so much produce. Who says she had to give a lot away until Rita had a clever idea of opening up a little depot on hope road perfect? Yeah so bob was still there and always musician friends. So in Time Rita created the Queen of Sheba restaurant which was a huge success. It began as a juice bar but soon had an Donovan and they were creating more so this also helped to make read them more involved in Bob's life again in the kids as well 'cause she would bring them to hope road and they'd be there all day so things we're pretty good in their own way but as we know Rita does have this thing about wanting to be independent and at this point she starting to wonder you know. Should I divorce like like should we like. I don't know she you know she just wanted something of her own. She was feeling aimless. I guess a little bit. So this led Tarita joining a drama group that she describes as a light opera group and that led to read a singing again so from there she met up with some old friends. This who also some of Jamaica's top female singers Judi Moen and Marcia Griffiths who actually had a hit in the states called Electric Boogie and they performed together one night Eh. Marshes Greg's gigs. And the crowd went nuts and it incited that passion and read it again to be on stage so at the same time the whalers where ending their three album deal with island records and the other two wheelers weren't exactly happy with all the pr that had been done with the group. Going from the whalers to Bob Marley and the wailers was not something they agreed on and the other two members just decided to go their own way so that was really difficult for Bob but he pushed forward he kept the name found musicians. Got A new deal with island records just him and while recording his next album he asked Rita. Why don't you come down the studio? Bring your friends Martian Judy and when they got there they did backing work for a song he was working on at the time called natty. Dread and that session was so successful that it led to Bob asking asking the label if they would come on for the rest of the album if the getting compensated for it do you think they were actually read. It actually says says that in the book that Bob asked her like what how much and she was like. Whatever you're giving the other two so she stood up for herself off and yeah they were getting good pay and it was a huge deal for Rita indefinitely? Kind of reignited. Something there Bob then asked if Rita would come on tour with him singing on stage every every night and Rita and the girls who are now known as the I three they were on board and part of the band so thank God for Rita's and saving saving the day again agreed to take care of all these kids so they could go on tour they also had enough money now to hire a helper for her aunt and a friend took care of. Rita's restaurant yeah. Well she was away. Yeah so tour was a real exciting experience for Rita. She had done little ones before but now there were doing big ones. They had their own bus on hotel. Hotel rooms read insisted to be treated as one of the. I three not Mrs Marley Yup and even though she did still tend to Bob onto her she'd make sure his clothes were ready that he was eating properly and whatnot. She felt independent. They mainly toured Europe around this time usually for like three months at a time then they become home for a bit and and they were like that for the next seven years. Wow yeah also making albums inbetween. Of course I had no idea that their relationship had this kind of longevity yeah mazing and of course over seven years. There was lots of highs and lows. Their relationship went from something more to just friendship and back again again over time Bob would still bring his flings onto our times and when things were rough preteen them while also being super possessive of her what she she could and could not do on the road on Noyon Yeah. They're incidences where he would get jealous and acted irrationally over nothing and read it talks about having her two girlfriends friends in the band and how much that helped her greatly. Preda says sometimes on tour if we had an argument before the show and Bob wanted to apologize while we were performing wing. No woman no cry. He used that opportunity to come over to me. ONSTAGE put his arms around my shoulder sometimes with a kiss or a whisper and say say I love you in my ear. I was going to play that clip. But I'm going to play that at the end of the episode. I thought instead I play. Ah Ah tune that. Apparently Bob wrote four Rita to sing and it's called play play play. So let's play some Rita you. Yeah that was a great choice. Put that in so one thing that happened. While on tour was rita got to meet two of her half sisters because her dad had had an affair with a woman in Sweden he was in England and and read a found out about them in the seventies and while touring she had this big family reunion. They got really close after that so that was really cool. Yeah you you mentioned Bob. His other kids and everything. So if you're wondering about the two other sons that Bob had the few years previous it was Rita who actually made sure that they were tended tended to and that those women got enough money to provide for them but there came a point Morita thought all the children should be together and Rita says they took the min so I have no idea. Exactly how many of Bob Kids from other women. She began raising but she said their mothers would come and visit like hope road and that they seem happy with the situation like they were living there. So Bob had three more children with random women in nineteen seventy three seventy five seventy six six. So I know for sure they took in Karen who was born in Nineteen seventy-three and at least one of the sons born in Nineteen seventy-two not sure how many others okay but there's there's a lot of them floating around now hard to keep up with all the kids. Rita actually did confront Bob about all these babies. and Bob's line about it was that reader couldn't possibly have all the babies that he felt that he should have and yet he didn't want to put the burden on her body. Do you favor yes you you know you. That's too much having one every year. So these other women you know they're making up for it. He's a master bullshit. He'll so rita actually actually has her last child her six. That was a daughter named cerita in nineteen seventy-five all daughters except for his two sons back. And that's daughter was with tacky the guy that he was still around in a good friend. Yeah so some. Barley Sometimes sang about political issues and was a bit of an activist in late. Nineteen seventy six. There was this big election happening in Jamaica. Intentions were really high. There's a a lot of issues and divide lots of crime and death at the time. The government actually came to Bob to help bring the people together and a free piece concert called smile. Jamaica was about or was going to take place on December fifth nineteen seventy six so tensions at that time were at an all time high by and they were actually danger because people began. Assuming things about Bob's you know where his political intentions lay things like that. So on the Friday before the concert Kurt reader was leaving four hersal when she got into her car with two other young men from the neighborhood and she saw some men that she didn't recognize coming at had them with guns so she starts the car shots ring off the Rita feels something warm coming down her neck and realizes she was shot in the head. What yeah so? She immediately stopped. The car arrested her head on the steering wheel. One of the gunmen came over. Put The gun to her head but then said everyone's one's dead and never fired again so someone nearby must've heard the shots and called for police because she heard sirens they guys ran off. Rita got out of the car to find Bob. Bob had been in the kitchen at the time. He was also hit in the elbow by a bullet. And the man that had been inside with. Bob Don Taylor. His manager was shot five times but miraculously none of them were actually killed my God. Yeah so they were admitted under under police guard to the hospital and Rita was told they couldn't take the bullet out of her head yet as it was too close to her brain and they needed the swelling to go down. It was actually her dreads. That saved her her. Her RASTA dreads. So Bob wasn't going to let you know this experience scare him into hiding and he was like you know what I'm performing Sunday doing during this concert as planned some of the band members did back out and others came to help support. But guess who didn't Back Down Rita as I was going to say that still still hospital jacket with her head all bandaged of performed. How bad bad ass she does say those shots did change them them though and did scare Bob and being in the public and everything like I can't even imagine They did end up finding the men responsible for this shooting. So I need to talk about a woman now. That many remember as one of Bob's great loves her name was Cindy break. Spear Sydney was actually born in Toronto. Oh cool she was raised in Jamaica. She was four though of all. Bob's flings Cindy was most definitely the one he probably loves the MOST NEXT TO RITA so I guess it makes sense Rita on a disliked her from the beginning you know she knew she was probably her biggest threat. As I mentioned the timelines are often the book. And when I look up sending Bob's time-line line online it mentions them entering relationship in nineteen seventy seven. But in Rita's books indefinitely was in Bob's life before that maybe as early as seventy how many four. So I'm not really sure when exactly they became a couple or whatever but maybe as early as seventy four so cindy even lived at hope road and paid Brentford time. Rita does say over time. She began to like Cindy and they never had any bad confrontations or anything. Cindy was respectful fall to read as much as she could be considering the situation. I guess so by nineteen seventy seven. Read them bobber off again. His focus was on. Cindy well we don Barbara dealing with shooting cindy was experiencing her own fame because she won Miss World title in One Thousand Seventy Seven. Wow yeah so read. A mention is a her. Like Cindy and Bob planned to do a movie beauty and the beast but that fell through shell semesters that Cindy and her mother had expectations. That weren't met. She believes that Bob had told Zinni. Like I'm gonNA divorce going to marry you but that never happened Bob Did however move to England with Cindy and record for about six months after the shooting and in nineteen seventy eight. Cindy had their son together. His name is Damien. Oh I've that's unfamiliar early so read. Dan Him still talked almost every day though and she was still part of the band and went to England to record and tour and everything. Something really awesome for Rita happen. Though in the end of the seventies he's she was finally getting some recognition and attention for her own talents and the possibility of a solo record. Rose so a French record company named Hansa offered Rita deal for an album. Bubbas supportive of Radio but not very supportive of this. So apparently appear are agent named Kathryn came to visit Rita to like discuss everything. and Bob Literally chased this poor woman out of the house like in tears not cool no but Catherine was also bad Aska and shows like I'm not letting this man's scared me and she really pushed for Rita to you know do our own thing and they did like press together and everything so that album would be called who knows who knows it. Feels it the unfortunate thing with this. Though was it all began to break for Rita just at a time. When Bob's health started it to be an issue so nineteen seventy-five Bob had an injury? Playing football one. Another player was wearing spiked heels. Starting not heels shoes and stepped on his big toe so bob ignored his toe. It never healed properly. And then in nineteen seventy seven he reinjured it and the nail fall off off so yeah after that a malignant melanoma developed. Bob Did not believe the doctors who diagnosed this. They said that they could take take care of it by cutting off his toe. But Bob was adamant about keeping it and no matter how much rita try to rationalize with him. He just wasn't having it. She says she could feel his anger and resentment towards her whenever she did mention it to him and it got to the point where she felt forced kind of support his decision to keep the peace. Keep the to-. Oh yeah so bob cat believing. There's a sore toe it's going to heal. He checked himself out of the hospital. He went on tour like that he was playing crazy. Shows was that last tour Rita talks about how she felt she was losing him. The bond was voting. His health was deteriorating. He was ignoring it working even harder than ever are up early for interviews doing double show. Sometimes she really felt helpless and they would always just get an arguments one time time when they were in New York for show. Bob Actually passed out in Central Park so Dr King checked on him. Check the to- which of course was getting worse worse and they said you know this is spreading but bob would not slow down. She says for the first time on a tour there was like so much secrecy people are trying to keep her away from him him things like that. A lot of people of course relied on Bob for their paycheck rates. Keeping him going when we know the story this is not unique. Exactly hiding musicians is pain the APP so this doctor finally was confronting Bob saying cancer like this to- it spread it's in your brain your liver it's in your lungs. The doctor said you know you're going to die and finally they decided okay like maybe Bob I need some rest so rita was like really outrage that it got to this point and she did everything she could. She got Bob Checked into a cancer treatment center in New York and later Miami for radiation treatments and Cindy actually came from England and together the cared for him while and you know waving their incredible women are incredible. Yeah at this point. Cindy had actually moved on in Nineteen eighty-one she would marry another man but her bopper still close. He was the father of her son right. She didn't stay until the end but she was certainly there to show her love and support. So I'm not going to go into the painful details of his struggle and deterioration Tirupati. He lasted longer than expected but ended up passing away on May Eleventh Nineteen eighty-one he was thirty six. Wow yeah read of chorus took it extremely hard. This was not only her great love but her first real experience with death to a month before his passing Bob Receive Jamaica's Order of Merit and after his passing tens of thousands came to mourn and pay their respects. The funeral is a celebration of him. Leaders from both th- political parties spoke the whalers played. You know the I three played and so did Rita Bob's kids. They were now known as the melody makers so so unfortunately like so many other stories told when the musician dies young and at a high point in their popularity of legal battles tend to ensue. Peter and Bunny the previous wheelers came the woodwork. Again there was issues there. A lot of random people came forward with crazy claims man pretending they're BOB's father. More supposed children. One of Bob's all that kind of stuff a big old mess big old mess. Yeah but Rita was really determined to fight and maintain. Bob's legacy make sure all all their kids were supported. So that's Rita formed our Rita Marley music or Robbie. Marlene music kind of both. She was Iraq. Didn't big business manager here at first but she knew she had to do it and it came with a lot of trial and error and like broken trust and stuff. She goes into detail in the book. You know if if you want to read about it check get out. I'm going to skip some of that. Another thing. That sounded familiar. WAS THAT RITA decided to turn the hope road home into the Bob Marley museum cool and that's operated by the Bob Marley Foundation which is a charitable organization. Rita says all the kids are involved in the place in one way or another and those who visit shouldn't be surprised to find one or more of them on the grounds on any given day that'd be cool to visit and Redes- Queen of Sheba. Restaurant has even survived. Yeah they also have a bit of a museum at Universal Missile Studios in Orlando which they've given a lot of artifacts in order to keep spreading his legacy so she didn't like a personal presley. Yeah exactly and Hank Williams kind of thing so many and they also put on concerts every year on his birthday that feature the family members and the I three so to go on to be involved in many more recordings and many of their children if not all of them went into music as well ziggy and the melody. Makers were a group from seventy nine two thousand and two. They won four grammys. I think their whole family is involved in musical things in one way or another you know onstage on stage behind the scenes they're pretty cool family and also went on to put out more albums herself in one thousand nine hundred one her album. We must carry on was nominated for a grammy cool. Oh love it so with the kids. Grown Rita found a new purpose in two thousand with her Rita Marley Foundation which is a non for for profit organization that took her to Africa and she helps to work there and alleviate poverty and hunger and has also. We're giving out many scholarships to music students in Ghana so call and the foundation also hosts annual Africa Unite Concerts to spread global awareness. So Oh of course. The Bob Marley Foundation does the same for those Jamaica helping to make places like trench town. Better for those who live there and The book was published in two thousand thirteen and read a mentions that she was a grandmother. A thirty eight. I have have no doubt that is probably risen but the research on that just seemed way two dauntingly so forgive you done enough thirty eight holy crap in two thousand sixteen. She suffered a serious stroke and has kept a low profile since however she did attend a public event in March of two thousand nine hundred thousand where her and the I three were actually honored with an award for their contribution from music. Amazing thanks. And that's that's that's Bob and Rita. That was so good. Thank you an hour ago. I knew nothing about either of those those people and now I'm just again just full board with this piece of music history that. I'm so glad that you told us about thank you. The research was incredible. Story was great. Read is obviously amazing. It's just another one of those stories where you know. She's always there. She's part of the music. Doc Not just as amused but up on stage yet not a lot of people know so now you know thank you so much well. 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332: No Such Thing As An Innocent Apple

No Such Thing As A Fish

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332: No Such Thing As An Innocent Apple

"Hi. Everyone James here now before we start this week show I, just WANNA. Tell you one little thing about it, and that is that it was actually recorded quite a long time ago all the way back in February in fact, and the reason I want to tell you that is because. First of all it's obviously in the office and we're all still in our homes at the moment, and also because they'll be a few things that we might saying that the might really perhaps give away that we didn't record this week For instance, I do talk about Jessica carrot for Awhile and that probably would have been dated reference anytime that we said in the last five years. But Hey, when you listen, you'll get the idea. So enjoy the show and just marvel about how young we all sounded back in February. Okay. All with the PODCAST. Hurdle. Hello and welcome to another episode of no such thing as a fish, a weekly podcast coming to you from the QA offices in covent garden. My name is Dan Schreiber is here with James Harkin Andrew Hunter Murray and Anna's Inskeep, and once again we have gathered round the microphones with our four favourite facts from the last seven days a no particular order here we go starting with you Anna. Fact. This week is in the eighteenth century women. Express. That political beliefs by wearing decorative stickers on their faces. Wow. What kind of stickers did they say like vote Labor or yes screw you Boris just. Women have amazing foresight. Stick around. So, facial stickers were huge fashion for about two hundred years. And about the turn of the eighteenth century, they suddenly became political and so there was one commentator. For instance said he went to the Opera Anti saw two parties are very find women as he said, ranged in battle formation against each other and. One group was wearing patches and stickers on the left side of their foreheads on the other on the right hand. Apparent. They were weak supporters and Tory supporters and looked into this and this was a thing. So it wasn't the stick as what just like little light beauty spots or something, but it was way you are them. That was important. Yes. That seems to be. Yes. So they started off decoration, but it got to the extent that there was some marriage contracts where women would insist before they married the husband that regardless of the husbands political opinions, the wife should be able to patch a she pleased. Wow. So you'd have one two things, but did it get to the point where people you know Nec full-face Tattoos? Did you ever see people just completely would see not completely the full face, but we might see lots of these like fake beauty spots and you could supposedly identified prostitutes. Their faces had so many of these patches on the. Sign of being sexy though having lots of stickers well, having one sticker was supposed to be and the reason is. Supposedly Venus the. Goddess of Beauty. She had one mole of her face and it was by that one imperfection that you could see how beautiful the rest of her face was on. The idea was that they were kind of copying by having light one little beauty spot. It would show the pale -ness of your skin perhaps saw show off the rest of your skin. So if you have lots and lots of tickers that means you're really really beautiful because you've got so many imperfections to disguise how fit you are. Obviously believe what I look like without these tickets. Really. Nice. It could have been that you're covering the symptoms of STD's. So, sorry. Well, I didn't think that we had. Glue stick technology in the eighteenth century. Lou. Sure. Okay. Do they kind of fuzzy felt stickers that kind of thing? I, actually don't think we had fuzzy felt. They would be made of various things they could be made of silk officer or leather sometimes, and then they have mouths for apparently mouth now. On your. Tongue. Now if I suddenly deliver. Mouse from what I was. Okay mouse her okay I heard mouth as well. Okay right until you. So and then they come on the bank often surface that you could lick. So women tended to take out the bikes and lick them to attach them to their face. You get very thin paper that does that they had adhesives. So they just stick on with some glue. Sometimes the adhesive wasn't so great. So there was an article in the spectator that spoke about a woman who had at beauty spot on her fall forehead, but by the end of the evening gowns to. Think more more elaborate as well. Didn't they? Is it caught on? So I think it started in France and the French cooled them Moosh, which is for flies a little flies landing on your face. But. Your they expanded to be wedge shaped. So by the end of the eighteenth century, you'd have cut into stars or of moons or crown shapes or any chevy she wanted really you still get those don't you On small children. Adults who like a bit of Fun Yeah, Oh you wearing. Copy dog on. I was so considering this by. I. You do get like little kind of I dunno stars and yeah. I've been very brave at the dentist today. Lucile. Stick on your. Did I know actually? I used to have one of those, but it was a safety pin one. So that's not for the forehead. Now for the cloaks safety pin, really badge I'm describing. What's interesting about that is I think you're only brave at the dentist once so you don't need it to be. You only needed to be a sticker. Do you know what you're right? I'm confusing it with my I've been to a party pizza heart bad which is a badge. That's the thing that lasts a life. If you have a pizza hustler the early nineties. You don't want to be worried budget says I'd be brave at the just to show. You feel pretty silly at the military parade. Brave. I got this one for bravery. Some drawings that people have done of some of the designs and there was a horse and carriage one and I think that's been. Taken out of. Shame. Yeah it's really hoping that that would be because I just saw how interesting heads must have been back thing. Know what. You're sitting on the tube and someone sat across from me with a horse and carriage drawn on their head, and they had other cartoons need the paper just. Two people still have tattoos these days. So you just you just read people's Tattoos. But they give me a look. Not. Friendly. Oh. Well, this is the thing about other kinds of stickers is that they could be indicators of how friendly or not someone is. So bumper stickers. If people have bumper stickers on their car, they tend to be more aggressive and territorial drivers. Study in two thousand and eight by Colorado State University, and they surveyed people saying, do you have bumper sticker on your car and do you drive like a bastard and basically people said Yes to one said yes to the other they said, yeah I drive territorially more aggressively do not respond constructively on the road when people can my way? The baby on board stickers. Well I read the article and actually it doesn't matter what's on the sticker, right? So you might have a sticker says, everyone needs to be kind to each other and you're still going to drive like a maniac. Yeah. So baby on board as well. Likely. To be aggressive just one little thing on an alternative use for stickers for yourself for decoration is to cover blemishes. I think that's sort of where facial sticks come from originally but men were them quite a lot to cover blemishes or to accentuate them and so So if men had been to war, for instance, it became quite coming for them to come back and they'd put a skull sticker over that scar I. Think if it's GonNa to fade or something then you. Black Scarves Ed. So there's for instance, has an well that ends well, which now makes sense. If you know where Bertram comes back from war and it says, he's GonNa Patch velvet on his face, and it's unclear if there's a scar on Johnny and it was sort of thing that people did if they hadn't really seen much military action and they were recovered and they'd run away at the I in any way is that they've suddenly put a big blemish on their face to imply that they'd been shot in the head. Wow. Yes. Amazing. I've got little scar my face maybe all drive accentuated. With some mouse for. One of the sides and that show. Somebody got shot in civil wars can. Obscene bumper stickers sometimes be a matter for the law. Okay. So there are all these losses that happened in the USA. Particular or whether it's basically creating a public disturbance just by having it on your car. So in two, thousand and eight. Guy Went to the Georgia Supreme Court because he had a shit happens bumper sticker. Okay and he won. Then more recently, this is very rude by the way but the police in Florida arrested and charged a man who had a bumper sticker which said I, eat ass. Right in the middle of his back windscreen as well. So there's no way if you're driving along the UNC. To Donkey Meat Doing A. Full. Actually should have paid the police pulled him over and they can you remember so it wasn't offensive and he said, well, how do you just do that and they said, can you move the second s from us? So it will be a as but then the grammar police come into. An guys who is the grandfather, the god of stickers. Stick Scott of stickers a couple of albums Khanini on no I was thinking of Mr Avery. Avis Stanton. Sorry. Well because you never do any of the office Ataman. Andy. you familiar with avery stickers but those of us who post letters every once in a while still more of A. Factor has been building up. No Stanton Avery mate was the inventor of the self-adhesive sticker as he didn't need to lick it you didn't need to add glue. And he's still dominates the labor market today so. He. So he built his stick machine I love this by marrying together a motive from a washing machine and a sewing machine sewing machine pause. So we smash them together and generated the shed load of stickers. His company was initially could come clean products spelling come. M.. Which I think is a good thing was changed. How did he make glue? He was as very cagey about. He was pretty tired. and. So he really liked dragged himself up from the bottom he lived in a rented check in coop while. He couldn't even. Pay The chickens every. A Own The coupe they were also renting. parable flatmates. Eggs every morning. That's true. Yeah. Do you want to eat a bag if you're flatmate just laid it? Horrified I. Ate. Food that's come out of any of my friends also. So. Cool. He could have read an eight and then in brackets x have. Chickens. Close brackets us. Another strong defense. So he tried to business how did he get a washing machine in the chicken coop? So I think this is post chicken coop. Got It. Because he married a slightly wealthy lady who lent him a bit of money. And t the wanting the washing machine goes back to your place I took. Chickens out tonight. Anyway the Hindu. Love. That night. Okay, it is time for fact, number two, and that is my act. My fact this week is that the very first print run of the adventures of huckleberry Finn had to be pulled after a bookstore owner discovered someone had sneaked a drawing of penis into one of the illustrations. The first suspect has to be illustrator shoe. Yes. We genuinely dot. We don't know if Z illustrator. We don't know if it was the photo engraver at the actual factory where they were printing the book. What we do know is when these books came out at the end of chapter thirty two Huck Finn is meeting his aunt Sally and Uncle Silas an Uncle Silas has a bigger penis drawn in. In the illustration itself and as a result, thirty, thousand copies had to be. Built, and did they they definitely checks? They checked the plot and they don't is not part of the story line that references Uncle Silas direct widdly widdly I read the book and I can confirm there isn't a bit where uncle has has an erection and showing it off to his family very disappointing when you got. Is the editor is? So. This is obviously a very important book in American Literature Ernest Hemingway said all modern American literature comes from one book and it's called Huckleberry Finn and the idea was it was the first book that use the vernacular of Americans at that point Americans were really rising in the tone of British and European authors not using the day to day language and he kind of set the tone. Unfortunately. It's also a book that's laced racism and that's causing huge problems. Basically, since publication it's it's not a book that sort of not been controversial throughout the years. The language uses difficult racist than we should say that it set mark Twain wrote in ABC's but it set about forty earlier the eighteen forties as an inch and the main plot with infant has is basically it's about Hopkin who is this kind of poor kid who held us he thirteen and he runs away along with a runaway slave who is called Gin and they run away together and they all good friends and Jim is a very sympathetic character but at the same time problematically draw yeah. Penis like Uncle Silas we should. People have objected to stuff other than that. So it was extremely controversial as soon as it was published largely because of the kinds of crudeness of some of the language and that was written in this native dialect it wasn't just like older American dialect to its proper Mississippi eighteen forties dialects, and it was bound for bad grammar and employment of inelegant expressions things like nine, hundred, five Brooklyn. Library bandit because hock not only aged, but he scratched. So apparently that's disgusting and he said sweat when he should have said perspiration. So Mark Twain have been kind of unhappy with the way the publishing have been going and he decided he didn't want to have normal publishers like before and get the money that way he wanted to have a subscription service. So he sent people door with like. The first chapter and said look this new. Now, how do you fancy buying and then we'll send you all the chapters in future and basically because he did this meant, he could have full control of it which meant he had full control of all of the illustrations and it that when the illustrators kept sending him stuff, he was like, don't like that. Don't like that. Don't that. Don't like that. Do that belong lane. It's so is that maybe why they brax theory that the illustrator hated him so much because he kept asking him to change things is like right? But they offer massive reward to the pressman working on the novel the Five Hundred Dollar Award, which would have been a lot of money today and no one fessed up. So we still there's no culprit. Is Investigation Still Open. And the reward is still available. He had a terrible relationship with his so types such as and proofreaders and everyone like that. Didn't they might be why pissed off with him he hated them and it does sound like they kept on trying to improve punctuation and grammar, which was deliberately not killer and I'm getting a text bag and seeing the corrections that have been made. He wrote to a friend I've telegraphed orders to have the shot without giving him time to pray. So it was tense. I. Think if someone. Picture. Wasn't the most successful book that he published with that firm. So the first two books, the that firm published huckleberry, Finn and the memoirs of Ulysses s grant ex president, and it was pretty much the last thing grant did was write this book and it was so successful that he gave grant's widow the biggest ever royalty check in American publishing history absolutely massive and it was thanks to that door-to-door tightening the James mentioned because it was war veterans. So, the civil war veterans going door to door selling book, and that's a pretty strong sell. You know I might be wrong in saying this. But from the story that I know about that, it's that when ulysses s grant died, his wife was really struggling financially and was not given any help from anyone and Mark Twain published the book and gave her that high amounts of royalties before he knew it was going to be successful so that she had. Money to live off for the rest of her life Apparently. It's an extraordinary book that Autobiography Tony Yeah Yeah I've read. So many things about being the best book by anyone in government ever as a solid, just incredible apparently better than the art of the deal shoulder. So. Jacob Reese. Bugs book about the Victoria. Now if you WANNA talk about offensive line. Mark Twain wrote the first book on a typewriter in America is a bit of dispute over whether it was Tom. Sawyer another one of his books it's usually credited as Tom Sawyer but he used to love running on a typewriter and no one really had it at the time. So people used to write him letters and he would write letters back on his typewriter. They would then right back to him asking about the typewriter and not got so annoying with so many people running back to him asking holy moly. What is this? This is incredible that he stopped writing letters using his typewriter. Inundated I really love his correspondence because he didn't really much like them. A lot of time that he I'd I read one that he got in nineteen, ninety, one and the letter said Mr Mark. Twain. I'm a little girl six years old. I have read your stories ever since they first came out I have a cat named Kitty and a dog named pup. I like to guess puzzles. Did you write a story for the Herald Competition I hope you'll answer my letter yours truly Augusta contract to which he replied well, no, he didn't reply. He just roasts comments on it saying Labor Tab of Middle middle-aged Lia- to pull it autograph. He invented one game for kids which I think. Sounds pretty cool. So he he mentioned how a eight hundred and seventeen foot path. Of His driveway and he mocked every single foot and that was supposed to be a year and it was the year from ten sixty six when William the conqueror arrived in Britain and the idea is you would walk along the path and each point when there was a new king or queen in England or Britain than you would stay in the ground and you'll be like Oh. This is that what the first this is Henry the second Blah Blah Blah. and. It was a way of having fun but also learning your kings and Queens because in those days, education was very much rote learning like you just had to learn all these things and this was a fun way of doing it a very, annoyingly slow way of getting to the front door offers. But he turned it into a book. Didn't they tried to? It sounds really complicated. I didn't fully understand that even us to retain. It sounds a bit like battleship. So basically, it was another history date memorization game, and essentially you'd have a shot with a series of dates on it and each player would say a date. So you say nine, thousand, nine, hundred, and then the other playhouses and event happened on that date say the end of the First World War I cleverly chose. Out something to say. Also chose a date that was nearly ten years off. possibly. Shoot. The plan puts a pin in that day if they get it right and if if they didn't. Get A. Couple dates you want plus quite fun for Nerd. K It is time, for fact, number three that is Andy. Factors that before vaccination was invented the main method of inoculation against smallpox was to powder scabs and blow them up your nose. Ought to get someone else to blow them up. You'll knows. Very hard to blow up your nose and this was how inoculation what for a long time it was Unin China thousand years ago. This was the method they knew about this. Didn't it works reasonably well. So if you were healthy, you would get some smallpox scabs and you would lead them for little while because fresh scabs were likely to give you the infection properly. So they would be dried aged smallpox scabs and they would be pouted up and then they will be blown up your nose with. Special. Silva blowpipe for the procedures. Well, the Chinese doctors had special blowpipes to do this and then. Apparently, the right nostril was used boys in the left for girls and you would maybe get some mild symptoms and some people did actually just get full blown smallpox but. Most people got know. and. Then we'll resistant to any following exposure is a low percentage wasn't a. Really decent way of doing it before we had the method of vaccination and we didn't know about this is that right? The eighteenth took about seven hundred years to get over. is by the same method, is Max nationwide, which is the it's an attenuated or weakened version of the disease and a scab on your body that makes unsee bodies that can fight got that, and then it can fight against the main thing. Is that right? There was another version where you had some powdered scab as well or you had some pus from a smallpox pustule and you would make little scratch on your skin, and then you would just pull that. All Rub. Rub that powdered scab until skin that worked to and that's called vary elation because was the Latin for smallpox. In Two thousand eleven. The Virginia historical sites in Richmond had some things from his collection. And one of them was a letter from the eighteen seventies that had a smallpox scab in it. And the idea was that the personally wrote a letter in the nineteenth century was sending its to his father. It had been taken from the child and his father was going to make into Dustin inoculate people. But then it never got to the recipient. Found this letter, and of course, immediately, the census but disease control came in the Hazmat suits. Holy Shit without needs to be having this that the public can see this because smallpox has been radicals it basically has an. So. Yeah. In the end, they've there was some of the virus on the scope still, but it wasn't deadly in. Pretty hard. Hundred how when was it was from eighteen seventy six and they found the in twenty eleven along that it's really spooky finding it not knowing what it is. You just think you've found a little button or something, and maybe it's like a little sticker to. But all these doctors that are in methods of doing very relation. There was some celebrity doctors in. Britain in the seventeenth eighteenth century who what gets out. So have you heard of Johnny notions. Johnny, Nash. Well, he was Scottish doctor and he had a really successful method of area lighting because he would. He would collect the pass first of all and everyone had their method of making it a bit less debbie basically so he would dry it with peop- smoke. So you had a lovely was smokey flavor for. Then, he would bury it in the ground between sheets of glass. Okay. With some Chemphil then he would keep it there for seven or eight years. This is like he's making a whiskey is. Genuine. Then he would insert it and he would then put a cabbage leaf on top of plaster. was apparently a really good way of doing it and it just gave you the nice amount. I. Suppose it does take the edge off of the past doesn't it? Vice PD cabbage flavor to. The, apparently, you were more likely to get a job if you could be seen. Smallpox scars because then the suggestion was a great, you can work with us. You know going to pass it on you've had already. Seen as a sort of great interest safe workmate. So to two at the earliest people who works with inoculation Robert Cock in Germany and Louis Pastor in France. And they fell out with each other because pastor wants was doing a talk and he used the phrase wreck we Allemande, which means a collection of German writing but the translator translated as Ogg we Allemande, which means German allegance. And so. Never forgave him for that because he thought that Pasta was calling him arrogant although I think before that they loathe other if you read the dialogue that they had the letters, they wrote each other it's just basically spitting with rage. Cock writing letters to past are accusing him of stealing all of his ideas and vice versa saying you're fraud. Really, foul language because those this huge fight basically when we suddenly discovered the power of the idea of facts Asian between a few scientists wasn't there. So it was that was off to Jenna. Okay. So I'll put is the person who Kind of we give the we say created vaccination. Yes. Tonight. Right He. Got, it for milk weights. Did he yeah though milkmaids near him and he noticed that they got to think old cowpox, which is a disease that counts God and they would only get one single pustule on their hands, which is where they've been touching the cows because of all the milking and he theorized this is a mild version of smallpox. So then he did this amazing Gamble Jenner, he took some pass from a milkmaid and. He injected it into a child. On. Six. Not, his trial by the way over he did also dealt with his child actually later on so badly. I think when he knew worked. And then he six weeks later, he injected the child with full blown smallpox. And he didn't know how it works and. Then later in life they became friends. So Child James Phipps. Jennifer Gardner which if I hadn't what would have made the gardening very, very awkward. I think for a long time I think he would have ruined. You Rose Bush. He had smallpox when he was a child Geno and one of the reasons that he kind of went into getting rid of it later because he had such a bad time. He was very elated. So they gave him some of the puzzle. Some SKOP. So something. But he was prepared for that by being starved, purged and blad locked in a stable with other infected boys. Boys So they kind of related all these people gave them like very mild symptoms and then put them all in a stable meanwhile stanton every. Checking. On May. Okay, it's time for our final factor, the show, and that is James Okay. My this week is that you can tell if a movie character is a goody or a body by the kind of phone they use. that sucks now that I know that I'm watching movies know sorry this is not just a spile of one movie. This is spinal old movies. So, this came up in my rss feed. Thanks to the blog neater. Armagh. which follow and it was an interview with Rian Johnson who is the director of the film knives out. And he said that apple have forbid filmmakers from leading villains use their iphones on the screen and so if one of your characters is using an apple product, then they must be a good guy. So you can't tell who's the good guy in the good the bad and the elderly, for instance. It's a wonderful life I feel sure ready mobile phones. Sometimes it's not clear who is a good Ian? WHO's a body? If someone you someone pushes one person in front of a train to say five people who will be allowed to my phone at the medicine any decent starring everyone has a mixture of. Has One. I. Find a one ANDROID. A. Good Point and actually that saves it for me because the movie might've been sponsored by. So. That's good. Okay. Great. Stops googling which funding sponsor. And Yeah, there was also an article in the verge that says that apple says that its products should only be used in the best light. That reflects favorably on apple products and they don't they according to Apple. They don't pay to have the foams in movies. But what they do do is give lots of free phones books, stuff to the people making the movies in return for them being nice. But they wouldn't show someone looking up on the Internet how to kill oftens. on a MAC book. Yeah where to inject this person's and But. This is a thing called product displacement, which is the. Product by product placement is where you replace a real brand of the fictional one because the original brand really annoyed about. So there's a film called flight which starred Denzel Washington as an alcoholic pilot. WHO He manages to pull of a crazy movie. The plane's about crashed. You know it's it's all gone wrong on the plane and he manages to fly it in upside down and then landed the right way up at the very last moment. Say the first five minutes of that movie is one of the best things I've ever seen. It's so so amazed. Okay, and the rest is terrible right? They want to say that loud dog seen it to shit down things the film is bad so. Not to watch especially now, the endings been spoiled. With. The rest of the film is just like the legal process about whether he was right to save the plane and. Watch film and you're five minutes late. Be The worst habit. Like they should make into a short. Should I? Anyway. MEKA's who gave us back to the future. He is an alcoholic pilot. Denzel Washington. The character. Sorry. But Robert Zemeckis water to the character but he drinks budweiser and vodka that budweiser own either while he's flying the plane or shortly before I mean you guys have seen the film. So you'll know bubbas were about this and they said, can you not show this drunk pilot? Abud before he. And they refused. They said there's nothing you can do but it so. Happens sometimes movies do have to buckle to these bigger companies. So slumdog millionaire when Danny Boyle made that he gave an interview where he talked about the fact that he had some criminal gangs Drinking Coca Cola at one point and ice cold Coca Cola and Sorry. Are you personally sponsored by coca? Cola today. Wow. Was it was refreshing ice cold Coca Cola. Available in shops. But Yeh drinking in that and Coca Cola took a stand against it and so they had to painted out in the post production yeah. Many was the most bizarre film I haven't realized this but obviously at the time it was a huge. It won the Oscar didn't it and it was massive I realized it was made by the same company makes you want spin in a so it was one huge piece of productivity. Yeah isn't that just a carrot makes. Well he wrote slumdog millionaire. It might be as called for. He's pretty hands off with it but yeah, he's Atari beneficiary of both those things. Senator, it's company could sell it oh. Of course, it's like Salvador. Deliberately named to be like the cellar door. Jesper does love his. Full back. Door, it's actually just a Sarah to. Any international listeners. Will you just precarity? There's no time. This he wants to and then they decided to make slumdog to sort of advertise wants to be a millionaire and the screenwriter for slumdog millionaire was one of the CO creators of who wants to be millionaire. But the only thing that they stipulated the end, this is a spoiler where he's being accused of cheating the heroes being accused of chasing the host of millionaire tortures him back stage, and at that point they said, we can't have it looked like the show is torturing this boy because that's GonNa make us look bad. So it was just going to be the host. So it was like Chris, tyrants out on a limb. Was Chris. Tarrant Bill. CLEANING UP TO JASPER CARROT. Upper Chris tarrant. Torture equipment does the host of who wants to be millionaire have access to backstage like. You couldn't do more than a quick Chinese bird or a wedgie could. Not tensioned music. Advert break. That's how. I found out. Just, looking at product placement stuff, I found out one of the first ever examples of product placement on a podcast. Okay. So this was in two thousand and five. There was a show called dawn and drew show. Okay and it was the newspapers at the time had to explain what a podcast us was, which is the report I read said podcasters or this particular focus is a program filled with strong language that. Is available only in a digital format and downloaded on ipods and other devices that play MP three files. So that's what a podcast and this one was the dominant true show and it was sponsored. It was product placement Ted by durex. Okay and DUREX had inserted their product show because was hosted by a husband and wife, and the show featured the husband and the wife and the dog Hercules tasting flavored condoms. That was the first over. The firm said they were delighted. They said this is. Exactly, how we want to position the brand? Would they come those for dogs and humans alike? Because he'd have to have a dog meat flavors. Strobe read today. So what do I dislike? We've got fervor to sink before we. Your this is not a product placement, but we're recording this podcast on MAC computer our guy. Now if you were to close that, don't close it because we might lose the recording but you'd see that they apple is upside down as you're looking at it. So maybe if you have close it You see it's kind of upside down as you're looking. Now, the reason that is is for product placement reasons. So it was in legally blonde, which is probably great fell. She is using an apple. Mac. But the apple is upside down to what we have today because that's the way it used to be because it makes much sense if you have it closed and you're looking at it, the apple is the right way up. And that's how it used to be. But then there was an employee called Joe. Merano. WHO said to Steve Jobs look if we're going to put these movies, what we need is when it's open and you're looking at it, the apple is the right way. They changed it or someone's just watching you and a cafe. Of course you've got to put it the right way out for the people looking at it owns ready. That's really interesting. So basically, the apple on your Mac is not for you. It's everyone else. Wow. Some appetizers. The next step they're doing for advertising and things. So appetizers in soap operas, selling billboards inside the fictional locations in the soap operas. Yeah. So Coronation Street UK is a fictional street at, but it's Victims Street with advertising billboards on it. Yeah, and Jewelry shops and other shops are up appetizing space and. Coronation Street. Clever and there's a new thing that other appetizers doing where you'll be able to digitally alter what viewers onscreen it when they're streaming. So you from people see different things. So. If you are watching, let's say you drink whisky and your TV knows that you drink whisky. There might be billboards for whiskey brands in the background whereas if you if you're a person who secretly buys Doug beat played with conduct. Watching Kardashian Street with your parents. Such a good point. I'm looking at each other suspicious. Christine. Based on the time of day. So if you're wanting late at night, they'll be for all do carnations. Late Nights. Yeah that'd be full late night stuff swearing. Okay. In the morning surreal orange juice or whisky. Just. One ironic thing about this fact is that apple's are assigned that someone's the villain watt. In films apparently people were spotted this if you're the body, you're always in oppal. No always. Yes so it's devolved. To do that because not pull a day keeps away This is true. Please send in more if you've seen them a Drako malfoy does it Jeffrey Russian parts of the carbon? Some crunches on Apple, call him Pharaoh and he's playing a vampire and something or other. And, it's it's name the arrogant apple. Just to show you dominance because you're gonNA showing you know loop. I can apple as well as talking to you. I didn't give enough of a crap about what you're saying to stop eating my apple, the slight the history of the poison dart hole in fairy tales and things been theorized. Internet James You should check the Internet. For more on that. Of Eden again. It's all on the floor. It sounds like we can think of everything on the. Internet on US so. Okay, that's it. That is all of our facts. Thank you so much listening if you'd like to get in contact with any of us about the things that we have said over the course of this podcast, we can found on our twitter accounts. I'm on at Schreiber land chains at James Hudson Andy Andrew Hunter. Edges escape you can email pocos. Q. I don't come up. To our group account at no such thing or a website. 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Episode 06 - Two-Gun Sue: Part 2, by Isabel Ostrander

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Episode 06 - Two-Gun Sue: Part 2, by Isabel Ostrander

"Hi Hi, my name is Jonathan. Pezzo and welcome to episode six of the weekly podcast pulp. Where we take a journey one page at a time through the literary underground of Pulp Fiction. Today, we're picking back up with the gang from the circle six ranch in the second part of Isabel Austr- anders to gun sue the novel was originally presented over four issues starting in the February fourth, nineteen twenty, two, argosy all story weekly. Now, pulp magazines kept their prices affordable in order to ensure that audiences in the working class could afford these low-cost luxury items. In nineteen twenty two when this story came out, the average income was just under thirty two dollars a week which when counting for inflation would equal four hundred and eighty eight dollars in today's terms much like today the majority of people in the US in the low to lower middle income bracket and in the years after World War One saw a steady decline in the quality of their life as jobs became harder to come by with little or no worker protections. We like to think of the roaring twenties as a time of excess and they were if you were one of the lucky few who were able to afford it. But for most people life was the constant push and pull of manual labor and stress without the social and economic protections we enjoy today it's easy to understand why these hundred twenty to one hundred fifty page magazines were such. Effective escapes that stress into worlds of fantasy adventure, romance and mystery. I can't help but feel that there is a deep connection between the culture and two gun sue and the time in which it was written. Instead of being set in the midst of the frontier expansion when life in the wilderness was a constant struggle between man and nature, we meet our main characters in the poindexter family just as the American. West has become largely tamed the intrepid men and women who worked so hard to establish civilization in these remote locales find themselves once again, being controlled by the old money eastern establishment that they had worked so hard to escape in coming West. Can this family that's worked so hard over two generations to create a life and a home on the edge of the world, defend it from those who WanNa take away everything they've built. Well, let's find out as we jump back into to gun sue. So. Sit Back, turn out the lights and let me tell you a story. Chapter to the hold up. At an hour before sunset another girl was approaching the circle six from quite different direction long loomed in deep chested with the superb lines of budding maturity her skin was tanned clear. Brown. And Brown to was the soft hair windblown now although it glinted readily where the slanting rays of the sun reached it beneath her hat. Her eyes were grey blue and steady with the depth which comes from looking into far vast stretches and her small Chin was firmly dominant. There was no hint of wariness either the girl or the mount though they had ridden hard and far. But as they came parallel with the first line of barbed wire, which marks the domain of the circle six, she leaned forward and murmured caressingly. Easy now, Moon Lady we're almost home now. In the last few miles are always the longest you know suddenly she straightened in the saddle shading her eyes with her hands for from the midst of a rising dust cloud upon a branch road to the right there came a sharp uneven pounding of uncontrolled hoof beats and the figure of a bay horse running crazily with empty saddle and swinging stirrups board down almost directly upon her. As it neared the girl, saw that the white markings upon its breast and shoulder were splashed with Crimson. Uttering low exclamation she wheeled the Black Mayor Leap forward beneath her touch and riding a wild curve upon the riderless horse. She sees the loose rein in a grip of steel and shouldered the crazy animal safely around the turn to bring him to a halt. Bullseye. Something very like, Saab. Tore its way from between the girls set teeth but her eyes flashed bullseye they got you. Where is your master the horse trembling in every limb winning softly with pain but the wild look faded out of the great bloodshot eyes and he rolled them at her. It was as if he were trying with all his might to speak. The girl examined the wound in the shoulder and then cast the rain-free Home Bullseye. You can make it old boy, go home and tell him what has happened to Lee responding to the urge of her tone as if to the sting of a whip bullseye gathered his all but spent forces in Sprang -standingly forward along the road which led towards the distant ranch gates. The girl felt an instant at the leather belt low hung about her waist, and then wield the black mayor into the by straining her is through the settling dust ahead. If Lee had been writing at the extreme end of the east section and he had been his badly wounded as his horse she might not find him in time. Even now, it might be too late. The state road crossed this a mile or so ahead, and it might be that someone had seen the riderless horse recognizing his markings and giving the alarm. But few of the neighboring ranch men would be traversing it at this time of the afternoon and the highway was principally given over to the occasional touring motorists. If. The darkness should come before she found -ly stifling an unmistakable Saab this time the girl bent low over the neck of the black mayor urging her to the limit of her speed. The lines of barbed wire gleaming in the last rays of the setting sun flashed past her on either hand like streaks of fire and the dust Rosen spiral world's behind. She neared the state road, and then all at once above the rhythmic beat of moon ladies. Flying feet there came to the girls ears a humming roar of a high powered car still subdued by distance but rapidly approaching with a light but firm touch, she slowed the black mayor into a loping stride and rode out upon the highway where she halted squarely in its centre with one hand upraised. But the huge oncoming car showed no disposition to stop it advanced upon her with undiminished speed while it's driver and the figure beside him waived peremptory arms and a masculine shout was lost in the roar of the engine. The girl did not move or lower her hand but the other crept to her holster and came away with something leveled and gleaming the car careened suddenly with a shriek of outraged breaks and came to a jarring. Stop not to lengths from moon ladies tense. But immovable figure. Sorry. But I'll have to borrow your car the girls tone rang out clearly and firmly above the imprecations of the man beside the chauffeur on the front seat there's a man hurt a hold up the hysterical scream came in a high feminine voice from the to Know Briggs why did you stop? Why didn't you run the rich down? It's a woman, the chauffeur began apologetically but. The girl on the black mayor was already returning her pistol to its holster. I. Didn't mean to frighten anybody but you wouldn't slow up and I've got to have your car. She explained there has been an accident drive on briggs a bulky form swathed in veils and a silk duster rose suddenly in the rear seat of the car take. Are you a worm briggs drive on I say if that creature doesn't get out of the? Road to hands flew to the girls belt this time there was a quick turn of slender risks and twin muzzles glean straight from her hips at the occupants of the car get out she spoke low but very distinctly, this is a hold up if you like, but it is a matter of life and death there's a wounded man out there on the range that I have to get to him get out all you except the driver. The large woman had shrunk back with a second horrified. Shriek, at the site of the guns. But now a taller more slender figure rose beside her and cold languid infinitely contemptuous voice drawled father are you going to permit us to be despoiled of our car and forced out on the road by any such flimsy excuses that the woman wouldn't dare fire a sharp bark and a single shot cleave ing straight upward into the air caught the. Word from her lips, the black mayors ears twitched but she gave no other sign not. So the occupants of the car, the show I settled matters for himself by promptly sitting back and elevating both hands above his head. The large ladies shrieked once more and covered her eyes and the second man beside the driver opened the door and steps spryly down into the road, sweeping off his goggles and cap as he did so to reveal a sparsely. Covered with grizzled hair we are at your service madame he remarked with grim humor and turn to the Tony Door. My dear you should know by experience that I never take issue with a woman much less one who has so convincing argument on her side the tall feminine figure alone had remained unmoved and now disdaining his hand it descended and stood waiting while the elderly man assisted the stouter occupant of the to know to alight meanwhile. Still covering them the girl had slipped from her saddle and replacing one pistol she turned to black mirror, and then touching lightly on the flank go home moon lady she commanded as she had to bullseye fail no I've gone for Lee the mayor gave one questioning glance from her mistress to the strange monster of the machine and then trotted off obediently backup the side road while the girl approached the car and the trio who stood beside it. If you take that road to the first turning on your right and then follow the wire fencing. It'll lead you straight to the gates of a ranch where they'll take you in. She announced your car will be brought back to you there soon as I've done with it, the bulky figure had shrunk back in horror at her approach but the Taller one away with mere shrug while the. Elderly man asked can you tell me how far it is to the hospitable gates you mentioned he spoke with an ironic courtesy, but the girl appeared oblivious to his sarcasm about six miles four. After you strike the fence line, you'll find a town with a hotel of sort a few miles further should you prefer that and they'll end you horses at the ranch if you can ride 'em. There was no hint of contempt in her matter of fact, tone but the elderly man read and slightly f this ranch you mention is the nearest I fear. We must endeavour to reach it and throw ourselves upon the mercy of its owner, but she seemed confident of are welcome. In this part of the country, we don't refuse our help and time of need or close our doors to anyone she mounted to the seat beside the show for the Pistol Still Resting Lightly upon hip furthest from him, turn this car and drive back as fast as you can until you come to a break in the fence where the wires are down on the right side of the road, then cut straight through it. Yes. Ma'am he responded with Alacrity it's back about three miles sought when we passed and there's dead horse lion there a a sort of Calico Pony. Without a word or glance at his employers, he turned the switch key in stepped on the starter with the first low humming of the engine. The car began to back in a sweeping curve to turn and shoot off down the highway in screening cloud of dust. A little later when garrison chandler having taken leave of Sylvia at the gates of the circle six was loping slowly toward the Bar Bardea for supper and a smoke with the boss of the outfit he came upon a strange group in the road. A tall willowy girl who's loosened veils revealed hair of a brilliant guy and almost classically perfect features was moving forward with a languid grace, which yet outstripped the pace of a small elderly man and a massively stout women who leaned heavily upon him and expelled each breath with a grown the unmanned pulled up his Bronco at the same instant that the trio halted and they stared at each other for a long moment in mutually astounded recognition Gary, the girl cried at last. Gary where in the World Chandler. By all, that's wonderful. The elderly man on ceremonies Lee withdrew his arm from that of the stout companion and hastened forward while she echoed weekly. Mr Chandler the young man had flung himself from his horse and grasped a hand each of the girl and her father daisy Mr Atchison. You're the less people I would've expected to encounter and Mrs Atchison to he advanced towards her is quick I in their motoring tire and generally disheveled appearance. You're not on a walking tour surely call it rather forced March. My Boy Dakin atchison spoke with the same grim dry humor which he had evinced a short time before we were held up a while back and our car commandeered by an enterprising young female road agent. Commandeered Mrs Atchison interrupted in hygiene. The car was stolen Mr Chandler and our chauffeur kidnapped we were compelled to abandon it and all our hand luggage at the point of a pistol. Two pistols mother daisy corrected. Do let us have all the thrills and we were fired upon supplemented Mrs Atchison her tones deepening tragically it was a miracle that we were not all murdered in cold blood. What's this Gary stared from one to the other of them. incredulous. Amazement you cannot be serious. There are no road agents left in this part of the country to say nothing of female ones. So I would have been willing to swear an hour ago, but I have had reason to change my mind atchison remarked the young woman most certainly meant business even though the single shot fired was into the air and our show for recognize the signs. You remember, Briggs I selected him to pilot us on this trip because I suspect him of an origin in the gangster element of the lower east side and although I did not actually anticipate trouble of this sword I thought that he would have had more nerve in a possible emergency. Then the impeccable Francois, he put up his hands without a murmur however and I cannot say that I blame him considering that the lady had US covered from the start but. It's all to utterly impossible to believe Gary exploded you have been mistaken for some other party and made the butt of some stupid sort of practical joke. If you think it could be anyone's conception of joke to force a person in my state of Health to leave her car at the mouth of a gun Mr Chandler and walk for Miles Mrs Atchison voice ended a grown. You spoke of two pistols Gary. Turned helplessly to the younger woman. was there an accomplice? How many were there in this gang which held you up? Only. One atchison replied before his daughter could speak the young lady was alone on a great black horse and she operated both guns most effectively from the hip from the hip to gun sue the thought flashed blindingly across Gary's mind and for a moment, his senses revealed. It was utterly absurd of course. And yet, what could be more unbelievable than the actual presence here before him in this Western wilderness of this astute. Wall. Street financier and his luxury loving wife to say nothing of the very girl who had been in his thoughts that afternoon as the EPA thome of incongruity with his own immediate surroundings choking back and almost hysterical tendency to laugh the young man I'd the older one speculatively. A girl on a great black horse hadn't. He heard somewhere from big Matt perhaps that Susanna Poindexter wrote a black mayor which she had broken herself if there could be some possible explanation. But didn't the young woman say anything Gary Stamford at last you spoke of commandeering the car didn't she offer any reason for holding you up in that fashion she blocked the road and drew her gun when Briggs wooden stopped the car atchison began again. But once more his wife interrupted the creature uttered some far fetched excuse about someone having been hurt and it being a matter of life and death by anyone can tell by the way she handled those dreadful pistols that she was desperate character. She pointed both of them at us when I ordered Briggs. Drive on and force her to get out of the way after he had stopped to avoid running her down I. consider it a mercy that we were not all killed outright. The young woman said, it was a matter of life and death emergency Gary repeated slowly she compelled you to leave your car and then drove off with breaks. Yes. Addison confirmed after dismounting and sending her horse back along the road which she directed us to take and where did she say that road with lead astonishment had given place to eager interest in the young man's tones. To a ranch where she seems quite assured that we would find hospitality the financier was eyeing him narrowly luckier chandler you know something what is it? What did this melodramatic performance mean? I have no more idea than you. Mr Atchison Gary responded diverse enterprising road agent offer any assurance of returning your stolen property. She said, the car would be brought to us there when she had finished with it daisy spoke suddenly she also mentioned a town with a hotel further along if we preferred that to the ranch, who is she gary she was quite a remarkable looking young person who sat her horse like a man and issued orders as though she were accustomed to being obeyed I believe that you know her I don't he disclaimed I never saw her in my life but if it is the woman I think it may be I should feel inclined to believe that she had a very urgent reason which justified her in her mind at least in commandeering your car even at the point of a gun. To guns. This road leads to the circle six ranch and I have met the chap who owns it let me show you the way and I am sure that you will be received with all the hospitality of the world. And it is actually European in my car and hand luggage will be returned to me intact to say nothing of Briggs atchison demanded the ghost of a smile flickered and Gary's is, but he responded gravely. If I were you, I should feel quite as assured of both Briggs and the car as though they were in the garage at home. Chapter three unexpected ally. The heart of the girl in the car had given a wild leap of exaltation when Briggs spoke of the dead Calico Pony lying by the road where the wires were down lead been able to put up a fight at least an examination of the Pinto's body might reveal how far he could have run before he dropped so that she might calculate the approximate distance to the place where Lee must be lying. She did not even glance back at the trio left stranded in the road but covertly studied the part of the chauffeur's face which was visible beneath his visor cap and goggles his nose was. Short and didn't upturned but the smooth shaven lips were firm in the square jaw lean and pugnacious and healthily tanned the Red Brown hair beneath the cap showed a tendency to curl close cropped though was and there was a boyish. Johnny Nash to the set of his broad shoulders as if instead of being cowed by this adventure, he was thoroughly enjoying it was the man hurt bad. Ma'am. Briggs did not take his eyes from the road as he asked the question but the friendly interest in his tone was disarming after the strain of the last few minutes and the girl replied frankly I don't know. I'm afraid. So. His horse was making for home shot in the shoulder. I thought much when I see the other one lion there. I says to myself that there had been some sort of scrap and I and I would have stopped right then and there only well, you saw the kind of folks I'm working for man don't you think I'd have run you down though I'd have ditched this bus I he spoke with an honest sincerety there was. No mistaking and the girl relaxed her tense vigilance with sigh of relief I wasn't afraid and whatever trouble there has been here. Your people won't be molested. They'll reach the ranch I spoke of safely and be well cared for if that old lady can walk a few miles, the shoulders beside her heaved slightly in chuckle from Briggs, his lips it would be worth a month's pay to have Mrs Atchison here you call her that ma'am. And I guess she can make it though I don't believe she's walked a block in ten years. He added abruptly a change sober tone we're getting near there now and you need to keep that gun trained on me I'm I'm with you. You may want both of yours if there's likely to be any little mix up and I guess from what I've just seen that you're able to handle a ma'am. But if you feel you can trust me with my own it's right under your seat there. Of course, you only got my word for. It that I won't double cross you. He turned then for an instant to face her and the girl looked into the pair of deep Brown eyes as confident of being accepted in good faith as those of a friendly intrepid dog accustomed to quick decisions the girl nodded in slipped her pistol back once more into its holster. Your word is good enough. I'm sure but I don't believe that there will be any further gun play the man we've got to find and bring in his my brother and the only enemies he has or some rustler's cattle. Thieves and half breed Mexicans for the most part have been running off our cows she explained quickly, that is our ranch there on the other side of the fence g, all those miles, and my party thought I that you were sticking them up for the bankroll. He chuckled once more and then exclaimed here we are. I'll need the speed that we've got to hurdle that ditch but we can come back and have a look at the horse hold tight Ma'am the heavy car swerved tilted sickeningly, and then seemed for an instant to hurl itself through. Space landing with a crashing jar, which shook every bone in the girl's body as it plowed through the break in the fence and over the uneven ground for a few rods. Then with another protesting screech of the breaks it halted, it had scarcely come to a stop when the girl leapt from it and with the chauffeur close at her heels ran back through the gap with its trailing wires to where the dead animal lay. It was a Mexican Pinto a wretched specimen of its kind, the lean barrel and flanks Ronald and scarred from pastelle usage. And still flecked with blood lather blood had formed in a wide pool to from the mouth and nostrils, and there was a bullet wound in the chest. Maybe you recognize him by the Markings Briggs suggested he must have been stole to away back when he was worth stealing for it looks as though some sort of brand has been burned off him there and again there on the earth. The girl shook her head. Some of the punchers might know him. But whatever identification marks there were on the Saddle Ben ripped away. You can see the leather is newly cut. He was shot through the lungs and can't have gone far. She rose from her knees in the tram. Earth and stood gazing back over the range with straining is that gang was pretty bold about it or do they usually pull off a trick like this in daylight out here? The chauffeur was following her gaze. We didn't pass a living soul on the state road for more than fifty miles coming along though. So maybe they wasn't taken so much of a chance at that. They must have known where my brother was a ride in line today and lay in wait for them. The girl's lips tightened we ought to be able to follow their trail in for short distance anyway. There was more than one of them. you think Ma'am this tall grass is trampled down, but it's kind of a narrow line. The chauffeur paused uncertainly as his unaccustomed is roved over the patches of crushed mesquite. There were two of them they wrote in single file. The girl went slowly forward following the fresh trail. The other horse was bigger the Pinto lead. See where he circled around and doubled back. That's when there were looking for their man. G Briggs remarked again in immense respect it don't mean anything to me. Ma'am. I would think I was going some if I could tell the make of a tire by the tracks in the road, but this beats it. Looks though as if he had made for that hollow over there, Donut, the trail was indeed leading ever narrowing circles towards a slight depression in the rolling ground fringed with low scrub brush and as they neared it, the girl paused and her breath cotton her throat, the rank grasses at her feet were blotches here and there with ominous splashes of Reddish, Brown heads only where the circus pony back there. Got It. Ma'am Briggs ventured consolingly. The girl shook her head there are hoof prints of a single horse. It must have been poor bullseyes and my brother can't be far if her voice died away in her throat and Briggs asked suddenly in a lower tone, you know if there's a rock over there behind that bunch of bushes, she followed the direction of his pointing finger and her body tensed for through the elongated shadows cast by the low brush she saw that just beyond them. They're loomed a darker form as though something were crouched or lying motionless. Without a word, the girl handed one of her pistols to her companion. And then stooping low started to creep towards it but Briggs placed himself before her no man he whispered determinedly I'm going I. Cautiously crouching almost to the ground he circled around the clump with the girl following closely after until they came upon the body of a man. He was lying upon his back with his arm thrown across his face and one leg doubled oddly beneath them and at the first glimpse of the still figure the girl gave a little sobbing. Cryan darted forward to fall upon her knees beside it. Gently lifting the limp arm, she drew it down to the side of the unconscious form and raised the head to cradle it against her knee. The face. So revealed was that of a very young man scarcely more than a boy and its resemblance to her own was unmistakable. Even though it was cast in a heavier masculine mold. His hair however was yellow save wherein Crimson streak mad at dangerously close to the temple and the lashes which swept the cheeks unnaturally now beneath their Tan glinted like gold. Is it him briggs asked superfluous -Ly and then laid a practice thumb and forefinger upon the flaccid wrist. He's got a nasty side swipe on the head Ma'am and I don't like the way that leg is crumpled under him, but he ain't dead by a long shot. She glanced up for a moment and he saw to his inward relief that there was no tears in her eyes but rather a bright hard light and her voice was curiously even in steady. As she replied, it is my brother, his forehead and scalper just grazed by the bullet but his leg is broken. Of course, I've seen more than one of our boys like that and I know we'll have to carry him back to the car I. Forgot I've got something that'll maybe do some good I briggs rose and then hesitated. You Ain't afraid of being left here alone for a minute till I. Come back. Are you a look was his only answer and as she bent once more over the boy's body the chauffeur turned and sped away to where they had left the car just the fence when he returned bearing a vacuum bottle in a small bag he found that the girl had somehow managed to straighten her brother out upon the ground and was cutting away the stained and sodden cloth from about his. G. That's bad briggs knelt beside her got another ball through the KNEECAP didn't he? It's Lucky Mrs Atchison was such a bug about carton a first aid kit with her She's got enough in here for a young hospital and there's hot coffee in that bottle. Together they bandage the boy's head and shattered knee and then raising him to a half sitting posture they forced a little bit of warm coffee between his lips. He gulps and moaned faintly but gave no further sign and the girl looked up once more at her companion. It'll be just as well. Perhaps, if he doesn't regain consciousness until we get him back to the ranch and one of the boys can ride into Dexter for the doctor she remarked still in that level unemotional tone. Pain is likely to be pretty bad in that knee we can carry between us to the car. No ma'am. Briggs dissented once more you stand aside and I can carry him easy. Is Dexter the town you spoke about a while back to the old man. Mr Atchison I mean. Yes hadn't you better get the car out into the road again before we put my brother into it that hurdle over the ditch I did already Ma'am when I went back for the kit he paused and added slyly I wouldn't be surprised if the ranch were headed for is the same one you directed my party to it is it's the circle six. The girl looked somewhat doubtful from her brother's recumbent form to the chauffeur. Are you sure you can carry him alone? Watch me Briggs smiled, and with a swift gentle movement gathered the boy up in his arms and strode off through the gathering dusk while she followed with the bag and bottle. The car was at the side of the road headed once more in the direction in which it had originally been travelling. The girl settled herself in the now supporting her brother in her arms the chauffeur east him down beside her and they started slowly upon the homeward way as they turned into the branch road briggs glanced over his shoulder. All right Ma'am. Ain't. Shake him up too much. Am I know my brother hasn't moved? For the first time she smiled faintly. You've been awfully good. I don't know how out of managed without you. Anyone would have done as much that portion of his face which was visible beneath the goggles reddened however at her praise. The reason why asked you about Dexter was because this bus can travel faster than any horse and you'll send a man with me to show me the way. So I won't lose any time. I'll drive in for the doctor as soon as I get you to the ranch. The twilight was deepening into dark when just before they reached the gate of the circle six, a whirlwind cavalcade swept from it and dashed furiously down the road towards them with West Hayward in the lead and Tad. Mason. Link Dole and several more strung out behind him. Briggs. Slowed down in the group separated as they came on and drew up on each side of the car. Mizzou West. gulped found him Gosh Almighty as he heard bad. I'm afraid. So a shot just grazed his head, but there's another through his kneecap Susannah responded who done it. The others had crowded there broncos closer. I don't know but there's dead Pinto back there on the state road where are wires down she shifted her burden slightly in a low moan came from the boys White Lips, some of you might recognize him by the markings I. Reckon we don't need to see him to figure out what outfit he belongs to West turned with a quiet menace to the chauffeur and. You you're the filler that had to be held up to make stop. We've been hearing all about it from the gray muzzled old kyle that blue in the ranch with the two females you an ominous murmur arose from the others and Susanna cried no way s he only obeyed orders at first and he's been splendid I never should have been able to bring Louis. Without his health let one of the boys lead your Bronco home and you get in with me, the change was effected and the car started off slowly once more the others fell in behind except for Tad Mason who had assigned from the former galloped off down the road we'd have been out looking for you before this. Miss Sue but clint brawner word that the. Wires were down away over on the Ridge to the West section beyond the creek and we kit it out over there west explained that must have been just a blind to draw as many of you as possible way from this end of the range Susannah had lowered her voice. You think it was Jake brower him are some of that Greece are outfitted his and sheriff. Deputies hunting him now, but they say you ain't showed up around Dexter for two or three days or federal res or be looks mistake either we just naturally got a run that outfit added a country, but we can't do it on the say. So of he hesitated and Susanna finished for him of the del Rio girl. She can't be so bad wes remember how she worked over the boys who were hurt when Montana Dan tried to shoot up the whole town good or bad. Miss Sue Felix mishegas mixed up with this business with Jake for shore. When we got back to the ranch house, we found that Bullseye had come in shot through the shoulder and then moon. Lady. We knew you must be with Lee somewheres. Then we was just riding now to find you and out of the ranch house comes this little cuss matter than Bob cat with a yarn about being held up by words evidently failed the foreman and again, Susannah. A woman road agent, you knew, of course that it was I. I suspect. Before he said ten words of course after them hostages had come in and and the look on. His face when she followed him out, what had told me anyways, he pauses they turned in at the gates and added I o on the boys would have strung him up. There weren't time no wis-. Susannah replied gravely these people are guests as long as they remain at the circle six and they must be treated with every courtesy. So please pass the word onto the boys when. We get LE- into the house link or one of the others must go in the car here with this man to Dexter and ordered show him the road and bring out Dr Rankin if the DOT. Gain off on one of his bootleg trips or hitting up what's left in the last one west responded sceptically he's the only one near mammoth city anyways. So we'll have to chance it. Briggs had brought the car to a gentle halt, the door of the Ranch House and as he descended an open, the Tono door, the light streamed fourth and Sylvia's voice quavered Oh. Soo. Is that you has something happened to Lee. There are some perfectly wonderful people here from New York. City and they told me of the dreadful thing you've done. Go back retorted Susannah briefly please hurt but not badly. Keep those people out of the way and I'll call you when I need you. Lee Is my brother to there was indignant protests very close to tears and Sylvia's voice but she retreated nevertheless leaving the door wide and briggs began tentatively if you'll let me carry him in Ma'am. I O pond that we contend to that without your help young feller, interrupted West jealously as the rest of the escort drew up on their broncos. But again Susannah intervened of course you in the boys can west but I told you before that if it hadn't been for this young man's help and kindness I could never have brought home. Let him give you a hand and we'll put me on the couch in the living room till Dr Rankin comes together West End Briggs carried the still unconscious boy into the spacious room while the punchers dismounted in crowded about the doorway muttering and subdued fashion among themselves. Then, the grimly taciturn link Dole started off with Briggs for Dexter. The punchers their broncos into the corral and made their way to the cookhouse and Suzanne was left alone with her brother but not for long even as she bent over him to moisten the bandage about his head a quick. But light step sounded behind her and the little elderly grizzled man appeared. It seems that we owe you an apology mme he spoke in a subdued dry tone. My name is Dakin Atchison and I trust your brother has not been severely injured. Had you explained we should have been only too glad to take you back to the scene of the. Accident. And subject your family to the possibility of a real life shoot and party Suzanne coldly as I remember I wasn't given the opportunity for an explanation of any sort. That was entirely the fault of Amelia. My wife Atchison said quickly but still in that subdued tone with a side glance to the still figure on the couch, she has most positive disposition. However, you'll admit my dear young lady that your argument was most effective. I understand that my chauffeur has gone for a physician to attend your brother. But in meantime my object in intruding upon you is to offer my services if I can be of use to you in any way. Thank you. Susannah pointedly I hope that my sister has made you and your family. Comfortable. Quite he hastened to assure her and then hesitated. I have learned that the hotel in town a few miles away which you suggested while excellent of its type would not Be Pleasing to Mrs Ashes, our daughter, and the nearest one of the sort which we are accustomed to is in a place called Mammon city will you be so good as to tell us how far that is and if the roads are quite safe at night Mrs Atchison is you now is nervous and highly strung and in spite of her appearance far from well Mr Atchison, Susannah interrupted with a calmness bordering on exasperation such hospitality is the circle six can boast we offer you gladly. Until. Mrs Atchison feels able to continue her journey. Please make yourself as much at home as you find possible in these unaccustomed surroundings, Cook will serve dinner in a little while and in the meantime I, feel that my brother needs my undivided attention I hope that under the circumstances you will forgive my unceremonious appropriation of your car this afternoon, and if you require anything, my sister will be only too glad play and master. Stammering his thanks the elderly little man accepted the hinton withdrew. A moment later Lee poindexter opened his eyes sue it was Jake Brower He got me. This episode was co produced by Melissa Star The music in today's episode was provided by Epidemic Music Dot Com. If you like pulp, please check out our sister. The curious matter anthology, it's a series that adapt short stories from famous authors in Science, fiction and horror into full cast cinematic produced audio dramas including a five part miniseries. Presentation of Philip K Dick's second variety. 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SYSK Choice: How to Be More Powerful & Fascinating Facts from the Google Earth of Health

Something You Should Know

35:45 min | 1 year ago

SYSK Choice: How to Be More Powerful & Fascinating Facts from the Google Earth of Health

"Today on something you should know how to find the best seat in the movie theater. I'll tell you exactly where it is in every theatre plus. Would you say you're a powerful person will discuss how to acquire power and how not to lose it. Due to the power paradox. The power paradox is is we get power by being emotionally intelligent and advancing of other people but once we feel power we lose those very skills and are vulnerable to the abuse the power also you'll discover how to de stress quickly. He'll need some honey coffee the sound of birds and a hit song from one thousand nine hundred seventy two and some amazing findings on what we really need to do to stay healthy and live a long time. The leading dietary risk factor in the United States eight isn't too much red meat or lack of whole grains. It's not eating enough fruit all this today on something you should know something you should know is sponsored by. 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You can use in your life today something you should now. Mike carruthers compiegne welcome to what is now our regular weekend episode of something you should know and this episode begins with a question. Is there really a the best seat in the house at a movie theater. Does it really matter where you sit or maybe the better question is is there a perfect place to sit in a theater and the answer is yes according to the director of Global Technology and THX is company that's involved in the design of movie theaters others and making the experience the best it can possibly be and he says that when a theater is being built the sound is calibrated by taking microphone measurements measurements and while the goal is to make the experience the best it can be for every seat in the House the closer you can get to where they tested and where they put those microphones the better your seat will be and the seat where the microphones are placed is typically in the very center about two thirds of of the way back from the screen that is essentially the best seat in the house. If that seats taken the advice is to fan out to a center seat you WanNa stay a close to the center but start moving forward not back because the closer you are to the screen. The more you increase what's called your Horizontal Zonta Viewing Angle in other words the closer you get to the screen up to a certain point where it's too close the closer you get the more the screen fills what's up your field of vision and that is something you should know when you think about someone who is powerful. What does that that mean power. What is power. Is it money. Is it influence what what gives someone power over other people and how can you increase your personal power here to discuss that is Dr Kellner. He is a professor of psychology at the University of California at Berkeley and author of the book the Power Paradox welcome to the PODCAST docker. It's great to be with you Mike. I love this conversation about power because so often you hear people say well. He such a powerful awful person or he has a lot of power and usually I guess that means there. I assume that to mean he's got a lot of money or he's got a great job or he's high up in an organization but what is power mean to you. Well you know what power means is. It's not just money or military might or politics. It's really how you as an individual can influence other other people is how you alter the states of other people so give me an example. Well we know for example that you can have an enormous influence on other people's really good ideas right not necessarily money and so you know if you have an idea like Thomas Clarkson did where he really was upset about the conditions of slaves as writing and slave ships he wrote a simple essay in the eighteenth century and it really led to the undoing of slavery so one idea can change world politics and and I think we can be thinking about powers just influencing the emotions and ideas and conditions of other people's lives so when people say well. You know I have of power or you have power. This guy's got power it. It basically means they have the ability to influence what happens to other other people exactly. Mike you know very simply every moment of our lives when we're with our kids romantic partners we go to work where you know in a community media organization. Our power is in each moment. Do you have the capacity to influence. That person changed their mind alter how they feel well but but sometimes you don't need to do that or want to do that. Yeah and you know ironically in a lot of people have come to similar collusion when when you WanNa try to influence and they're often reactive so it's really this capacity to influence others that it's the kind of deepest form of power so having a great idea is is great but not if you don't know how to use it and express it and get other people hooked into it yeah absolutely you you know so the the you know best way to think about this is my power depends on how my ideas and the resources says that I share and the practice that I engage in to what extent does it move through social networks and if you have great ideas and your hermit living in a cave you have no power right so I gotta get out and engage with other people and and and spread your thoughts and and notion so it's really the ability to communicate your ideas not just just having the ideas yeah and you know and this is where the science is really painting a really clear picture that you know when kids at school all people who've joined the military people at work if they really engage in others right and they they and they spread those ideas and they ask good questions and they you know express gratitude in these ways of really engaging face to face. That's where your power really lies capacity to influence so is there uh-huh away to do this. Is there a way if you have always felt somewhat powerless to up your power. Yeah you know these these great studies of of just that right where you you bring people in you. Give them a chance to influence and they're just really simple techniques. You know so one is you know make sure early in a conversation that you express your point of view right and very often lose power. If we don't speak up we can gain power by asking great questions and by showing an interest in other people that earns the respect that they have and it gives it's a platform for power so really engaged with others and make the move and once you have this power. How do you make sure that you hold onto it well. This is when you know this is why I called the book the Power Paradox. which is you know we gain power? Mike you know as we've been talking about you know empathizing and listening and respecting people and sharing and collaborating August stuff right and then all of a Seddon when we feel powerful and feel kind of this almost manic rush of like wow I'm on top of the world here we stopped listening and we stopped we start treating people people disrespectfully and we kinda get greedy and so I think the key to avoiding that stuff is just to you know just to stay focused on other people. Just just make it a a very steady practice of your daily life. What happens when you've got two powerful people trying to kind of out power each other. We've all been there also who are trying to dominate things well. I love this study and has just been published that asses. This is question like you know what we know. You know Mike is you know. Power tends to make us a little bit less imaginative or less astute listeners of other people. We generate worse conversations. Were interrupting people a lot of bad stuff and so these these scientists asked the question what happens if you take a bunch the powerful people and you haven't tried to solve a problem and they actually are less effective in solving problems than the right mixture of people who are less than more powerful so put a lot of people together who have power and you're probably. GonNa get less productive work done. I'm speaking with Docker feltner these a professor of psychology at UC Berkeley and he's author of the book the Power Paradox so docker when I think of someone who is powerful or someone who isn't powerful I think of like introverts and extroverts extroverts are better equipped to have power because they have that ability to engage with people and to get people to come to their side much more easily than quieter shyer more introverted people yeah and you know it's. It's such an interesting question so in a lot of contacts. You know kids at school. if you're working in a kind of a dynamic organization at work it is the extrovert who then really you have to think about what the core of that is which is it's somebody who really is just reaching out to other people people engagement right that will get you power but you know. Mike I work in consult down at facebook and Google you know engineering and statisticians and data people and they're giving these new kind of context or or work settings there. You have a lot of introverts who are doing really well so it it really it really depends on the context in how you get power but you a good bet is to really make sure you're reaching out and building strong social ties. Let's talk a little bit about the nuance of this just because I can think of people who ask a lot of questions. Who are you know always talking. Who are you know always always throwing out ideas and they're more annoying than powerful so there's more to it than just trying to you know you put yourself in the front of the conversation. There's gotta be some nuance to it. Yeah well put you know and we've all you know the book a power the power paradox talks about these old practices that get your power. You know expressing gratitude encouraging people asking good questions just stuff. Your grandma might tell you're right but we've all been around people who seem to be kind of faking this stuff and we it rubs us the wrong way. The person's thank you in a kind of inauthentic way and you know I think this is where the hard work really begins and a lot of people who have thought long and hard about great power great leaders just great community munity members suggests that it really is deeper kind of ethical commitment to the welfare of others and that you can't fake you know and once you find find that then these other practices of getting power of asking questions kind of really empathizing readily follow but you gotta do the hard work to they committed to others but if your intent is to engage others and help others and all that how do you get what you want. Well you know you have to I mean it one of the striking discoveries in all of this and you know I've just been writing thing about this. Is that we actually you know. When we cooperate with others we experience activation word circuits in our brain when we share resources with others a path to power reward circuits in the brain are activated when we express gratitude and show appreciation of other the people the same thing we get these physiological bursts of pleasure so very interestingly neurosciences discovered that we find rewarding again gratifying and uplifting being good to others so these past two power have their own personal delights since it is the title of Your Book? What is the power paradox well. The power paradox is this this puzzle social living which is we we get power by being emotionally intelligent and advancing the other people but we once we feel powerful. We lose those very skills. Are Vulnerable honorable to the abuse of power. Isn't that amazing so you once you become powerful. You lose the ability to know how to become powerful. I know and and you know if you look at history you see this time and time again and and what we find is this is just part of our daily lives. Is I get power by listening carefully and the minute I feel powerful. I'm not as good at at knowing what other people think so. I would imagine that being aware of that might help as it first step that if you realize that that's likely to happen you can guard against it or not absolut. Absolutely you know I think thank you know I I mean. Humans are amazing in how powerful just simple awareness is right just being aware of for example some warning warning signs that you might be abusing your power. Are you interrupting people. Are you not listening carefully are you. You know studies show that powerful people will literally literally turn away from somebody who speaking and look at something else check their cell phone or whatever these are warning signs that you are quickly losing your power. Our and problems may arrive. Do you lose power as fast as you gain it or is it is it is roughly the same speed on on the way down as it is on the way on the terrific question really question right so. I actually think you lose power more precipitously or fast then gaining it. I think gaining power in a lot of context is tough work. You know when you think about rising in the ranks that are in an organization but I think you know these abuses of power are quickly picked up by the people you're leading and and our make for a quick downfall how much of this is style versus substance and what I mean by that. Is you say that it's important to get your ideas across all that. What if your ideas aren't so great but you're still really passionate about him and you explain them well or when you're you know engaging and all that you may not have the substance but you've got the style? Do you need both or does that work. Is that good enough. I don't think there's a substitute for substance and you know the best answer to your really important question. Mike is is the studies of the legacies Z's. US presidents right and what they find is yeah. It's great to have this style of listening and then really sort of collaboration. Shen great communication but you also need a bold idea that unites the body politic or the country and the great presidents they they have this style. They're great storytellers. Lincoln was they're great listeners but they they have this substantive idea of that really transforms the country and I think when you look at innovation in the workplace if you look at great science if you look at Great Literature Great Film Substances Essential and it's interesting because because you know some of the abuses of power that we've been talking about actually diminish your ability to be made innovations to produce substantive contributions. What about the other way around. Can you have the substance and not style and I'm thinking in terms of like and I'm a big fan so I'm not I'm not saying anything negative about say Johnny Carson but he was not known as a as a nice guy or good listener a guy who would get out there and engage people but but he had so much talent that he had the talent he didn't need to do the other stuff. Yeah I mean I think you can clearly think of you know Lou geniuses at at trade right at you know the comic interview or or the scientist or the moviemaker or the artist who will will change the world through their their genius but I think that that time and time again we see that it also if you have this style it really appeals inspires your your influence will be even greater well. No that's true because you guys like say Jay. Leno who came after Johnny Carson was known own for being a very nice friendly engaging guy and he did quite well too so no. I think there are a lot of surprising examples of how you know. Niceness and just to sort of a good character is the basis of a power terrific well. I appreciate your time. Thanks Dr Yeah Great Observations. Mike thanks ducker. Kellner is a professor of psychology at the University of California Berkeley and author of the book the Power Paradox. There's a link to his book on Amazon on the show notes page Wjr for this episode of the podcast on our website which is something you should know dot net every day you hear health advice based on research and sometimes the information from that research conflicts with other information from other research so you never really know what to believe but there is actually a new massive study that is different than all the others in some pretty significant ways as that is worth paying attention to and. I think you'll find quite fascinating here to discuss it is Jeremy Smith. He is the author of a book called Epic Measures Measures Which Discusses All this Jeremy explained what is so interesting about this information in this research and how you got involved in and all that a friend of mine was a mathematician and I looked him up a few years ago and I learned that he was now a professor of global health at the University University of Washington and asked myself. How on Earth does a mathematician become a professor of health? I called him and I found out that he was is part of a global scientific team trying to create the equivalent of Google Earth for health and that's tricky because says you need to draw data from all over the world you need to fill in the gaps and information you don't have and just as important you need to correct the errors and inconsistencies in everything that's already out there for example when you add up the claims of all the different groups measuring one disease or another you find out that everyone dies two or three times over and obviously that's not possible at the same time many people causes and countries or never measured at all so the idea would this study is. Let's try to measure everything for everyone everywhere in the same way and make sure the numbers add up in a consistent way in looking at all that is there though a danger that because different parts of the world in different cultures and different people are are so different from each other that global snapshots don't mean much yeah if you are someone like. Bill Gates or the United Nations and you're interested in devoting your fortune or your efforts to global health than the big picture is really important but the cool thing about this project. That's it's profiled in that. Pick measures is that you can zoom all the way into your country or your age group or in the case of the US where there's more data sometimes you can look all the way down to county level and see what's most important for me or my family or how are we doing compared to the people next to us or the people couple of states over one of the things that you say that you talk about in the book is that fruits are healthier than vegetables. So how do you know that right and can you explain how that statement comes to be yeah. I was really surprised to learn that the leading dietary risk factor in the United States isn't too much red meat or lack of whole grains. It's not eating enough fruit and this is literally just two three the apples a day or the equivalent the reason not eating enough fruit is so harmful in this country is because fruit wards off off two of our leading killers heart disease and stroke. It's not that fruit is necessarily better for you than vegetables or something else. It's that we are further away. From our ideal amount of consumption in other words people are actually doing a little bit better at eating vegetables than they are eating their fruit and so the study he doesn't look at what's better for you in a vacuum it looks at what are the trends where people actually are in their diet exercise etc you know when I read that that I googled it and I couldn't find anybody else. Say differentiating between fruits and vegetables it is in most cases one group and and they're not treated separately and no distinction is made between the two in terms of health benefits anywhere well. This is really one of a kind of study in many ways it's taking everything ever discovered from everywhere else all the scientific literature and trying to put through sort of one consistent analysis and it's published in peer reviewed publication and The British Medical Journal Journal The Lancet which is sort of the British equivalent of the New England Journal of Medicine so when you know another really surprising fact on a global global level is that lots of people interested in involved in the cause of clean water and sanitation making sure people have clean drinking water with this study found is that that that is an important cause but five to ten times more important in most countries is the issue of indoor air pollution people cooking with thirty cook stoves and it just wasn't on the global health map before in the same way fruit hasn't been on the US health map but the US findings were introduced used to the public and this sort of interactive tool where you can play with them. US Health Map at sort of big presentation at the White House with the first lady eighty so I don't think it's you know to fringe at this point well so explain that a little deeper about the indoor air pollution because I've certainly heard that that's a problem but not not to the extent that you just stated well if you think about it if you have a dirty cook stove which is basically someone cooking in an unventilated related way with sort of dengue or charcoal. What you have is the equivalent of everyone entire household smoking twenty four hours a day and so it leads needs to lung cancer it leads to heart disease leads to stroke and it leads the disabling conditions like blindness and it affects people of all ages whereas whereas you know dirty water is important and it's especially affecting young children who die subsequently diarrheal diseases but but the number of children dying at early ages has dropped dramatically and so you want to address issues that affect people at all ages of life and once that you might not have thought to study before for but of course in this country not a lot of us are cooking with dengue so no country. We've got clean water. We've got you know Clean Cook Stoves so here we do want to look at the other kind of causes of death and the risk factors as I said low fruit consumption is a easy thing to improve at low cost for almost anyone but then there's other issues like you know smoking. It's still a leading cause of death in this country. If we eliminated you know cigarette consumption in this country. According to the studies estimate eighty percent of lung cancer cases would be eliminated and other things that we were well aware of but maybe having hard numbers on before for example are are you pursue. The ideal diet heart disease falls by about ninety percent stroke falls about seventy percent increasing physical activity or lowering body weight can cut the toll from diabetes you know somewhere between thirty and seventy five percent depending on which of those two paths through pursuing so so you can kind of see where am. I what are my biggest risks and you can zoom all the way in you know. I'm a male in the United States between thirty five and forty for my I particular group. The greatest dietary risk factor isn't low fruit consumption. It's actually over consumption of processed sort of lunch. Deli style meets so you know I I should be paused before I reach for the next hot dog. One of the things that fascinates me about this is that there is certainly the the information in your book but you don't need your even your book to tell the average smoker knows. Every smoker knows that smoking's bad for everybody everybody that's eating at McDonald's knows it if you eat there seven times a week. That's not good for you but people don't even with the information in hand aren't motivated needed often to do anything about a big message that I got after following. This research is that public health efforts can be just Mustaz or more important than individual efforts. Look at New York City. It's gotten a lot of attention and in some cases a lot of criticism for pushing a lot of public health efforts like cutting smoking and making cigarettes more expensive by like restrictions on what can be serving in food or the even the size of sodas at the same time if you're born in New York City today. You're likely to live about ten years longer than you were a generation go. It is the single greatest life expectancy gain in this country if everywhere in the US had the same gains as New York City. We will be the longest longest living country in the world instead. We're about fortieth but are you attributing those gains to those policies. I think that it's you know that's a great question. AM I. Attributing those gains to those policies. I think that they've had a big impact. I mean Pe- smoking has plummeted in New York. pity and certain elements of physical activity and diet have improved dramatically because of these public health measures other countries trees like Australia have modeled their public health efforts after the findings of this study and have seen similar kinds of gained and and internationally see that as well I mentioned dirty cook stoves the government of Rwanda a very poor country in Africa did sort sort of their equivalent of cash for clunkers they saw this finding and they swapped out a million dirty cook stoves for clean cook stoves and so I think when you look at what is the biggest problem the people I care about face you can say okay. What are the sort of solutions that are out there. It may be smoking. It may be diet right and maybe something else altogether. I live in County in Montana that does very well for smoking does very well for physical. Activity does worry well for obesity. Lisa compared to the rest of the country but according to their data. We've got a pretty big binge drinking problem and that leads to car crashes. Violence self-harm arm a host of other injuries so I can look at the data and say okay. This is actually where our biggest problems by. What are some of if you can. I do it as as succinctly as the fruit thing just to whet people's appetites some of the other things that aren't so obvious that that are making a difference work clearly can make a difference yeah well. There's a couple of other things in Diet for example the study suggests that second only to fruit and important is actually eating more nuts and seeds so that includes you know peanut butters or just sort of a handful of nuts and I think that's about about one hundred and fourteen grams weekly so it's not a huge amount it's just sort of something the sprinkle into the Diet and you know in terms of not just preventing premature premature death but sort of helping yourself live a long life to the end they suggest that the big issues people face are low back pain gene depression neck pain anxiety disorders and a lot of these actually can be addressed with things like regular stretching breaks or or you know. Inter proven interventions for depression anxiety including therapy so things like a pain in the neck you might just dismiss are actually pretty important affecting a lot of people and can be addressed. Are there things that people generally believe either help or a hurt your health that turn out at least according to this study turn out to be not true. You know diet high in red meat. doesn't ring very very high for example in the sort of toll according to this study Diet high in processed meat is much more important so I guess you could say hey. It's okay to have the steak but maybe skip the Baloney so another sort of surprise killer to me. Were the host of injuries injuries. I mean row worldwide road. Injuries kill more people than AIDS falls kill more than people than brain cancer. Drowning claims many more people than a lot of causes of death that you might think of much sooner. It was interesting to me that I read in the material about your book that a surprising number of people who die and there is a cause of death issued that the cause of death is medically the impossible. Yeah this is sorta scary fact every year about fifty million people die only a third of them have death certificates even in countries like the US. Yes we have death certificates about a quarter of them are just inaccurate on their face. They have causes of death like senility hangnail or something subtle title like heart failure think about heart failure. Everyone who's dead has had heart failure was it caused by drowning was caused by car crash was caused by heart attack. You you have to know that if you WANNA help save lives just to put it in perspective I mean there are studies out every day reporting that you should do this to live longer anger and do this to prevent disease so explain how the study you're talking about is different than you know. The usual studies that show up in the paper every day this is a thousand scientists over one hundred countries spending about a quarter of a billion dollars over a twenty year period to pull this all together and they're now updating it annually and in some cases even quarterly and what I love is. If you go to health data dot org their website you can play with the visualizations nations themselves yourself and sort of zoom in and look up whatever you're particularly interested in. Wow Fascinating look great. I appreciate your time time yeah. Thanks so much for having me and I appreciate the show. That's Jeremy Smith. He is the author of the book epic measures one doctor seven billion patients since and there is a link to his book on Amazon on our website. The show notes page for this episode has it. It's at somethingyoushouldknow dot net and finally today how to de Stress when you're all worked up because sometimes you just you just need to chill. Bill and here are some proven ways that will help you de-stress really really quickly. I smell coffee. Our sense of smell is ten thousand times more more powerful than any other sense in the body. Sniffing coffee or citrus fruit helps you de-stress by creating balance between your nervous system brain brain chemistry and hormones. Here's another one eat honey researchers in New Zealand confirmed the long held belief that among its many healing properties honey she can reduce anxiety and calm the mind have a good laugh or cry both stimulate the Vegas nerve which reduces the level of of Cortisol which is the stress hormone in your blood and increases serotonin production in the brain a good laugh also boost your energy and a new study shows that that it may improve short term memory as you get older run cold water over your wrists by dripping cool water on the pressure points on your wrist and splashing flashing it behind your ears you cool the arteries right under the skin taking the heat down a notch incoming your whole body and listen two birds recorded birds or live birds. The sound of birds in the wild can have a restorative effect and finally and there is no scientific evidence since that anybody's ever found to prove this but people swear that listening to the nineteen seventy two song. I can see clearly now by Johnny. Nash can have instant instant instant stress reducing effects and make you more optimistic and who doesn't WanNa be more optimistic and that is something thing you should know. Please leave a rating in review at I tunes Apple podcasts. Cast Box pod bean wherever you wherever you listen to this podcast a rating and review really helps us out. I'm Mike carruthers. Thanks for listening today to something you should know.

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On the Trail of... Bob Marley. Plus old skool pubs, old skool drugs and an old school. (S4, Ep9)

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On the Trail of... Bob Marley. Plus old skool pubs, old skool drugs and an old school. (S4, Ep9)

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We made me my that with you. yeah I wanted to say with this is to check out the pedestrian is. Meanwhile I went to W.. W One. And it was a lovely the olex Gershon. The city is this is a great city. Yes. In August September where we are now in the middle of pandemic. It's it's quite empty. You can along and you know. See anyone a lot of I, forty five minutes. Mind you. We will into the brandon estate in war with. Where we chanced upon an estate up court the Canterbury arms, which identing I'd ever come across before. and. A way outside was a grizzly old guy sitting that asset to A. Should we stop for half and he said Hey stop for? Welcome. And let me stop took for the harp whether. Awesome. System Love, the drinking one way system and then onto Soho which is expected is much better with less traffic. But even better off five o'clock when some Rosa closed completely and people come out rolling astroturf onto the street and all the chance to tables. And then we went to the coach and horses beside Clo-. You know again, you know 'cause wandering is perfect table. Going around. Yeah. Wonderful back now in fuller's direct management better or for worse. Does mean as op-ed those. Little Bit if he wants. Yeah. But now it's Not. Great. Pandemic. Pandemic. Love it. And then we walked home again Via, the river at one by the river we dropped into the other from council check out its last days. We were going to have one in that, but I'm afraid it's already. Into you. Know, the other concert shopping and. I. think that is officially closing on the twenty. Fifth September. Inside. Peter and all the little. Beach Bar Center. So finished dead. Yeah very sad and so we win win for one in ten cuts more throat one in the next heads in Campbell and finished up with the name. Donald Triple cheeseburger. Codes due to missing number being called while giggling. Proper holiday. My advice would be eight triple cheeseburger hot. Yeah. Yeah. Wasn't much of a trade in. You could say that was my key takeaway from the day Oh. Oh. So, yeah there's a wonderful holiday and then you could sad holiday and Brixton. went to the Brixton old school pub. Cool. Nice pop popcorn put together by goose which took in a lot of the PUPS. Back in the day that were great. We just checking to see this location. That's nice. Yeah. Relatives Yeah. So involved. Lots of Hansen. On my hands I've never been descriptions instant with the Scotch chilly and my right testicle. Think about and. So we start off first of all at the effort whole tavern. Lovely. It was We were told it's full inside limp off. Empty. But Type it in the garden whether fourteen person limit. But they seem to be fifteen people coming going the guns if you get into the toilet to wait until someone car. But that was lovely and then we went onto the dock star, which is I may have mentioned before was reverted to basically boys pub-. Pu- The decks have gone tables on the floor. This is not done anything to do with the pandemic. No, just. Another step in evolution of bookstop. Yeah. The W nine Baugh was closed goose very sad about that. I think he had some Shenanigans on. Back in the day but he pushed on to the Marquis of long which. CENA full. Not Far, from David Bowie your house. Very handsome. Victorian. Backstreet lovely fixtures and fittings the rich or extensive skunk outside and some old boys swearing at the does on TV. It was really quite. and. Go into a bit of Baldwin advertently photographed gazes. Second. Fight the pope. I did about you. But whenever someone takes a photo of me, I'm like, how do you want me? What's my motivation? The. Tell me breezy in. Yes. Exactly as some direction, but this oversee felt very differently. anyway, I let him live and we pushed on to the Queen's head. She may remember a massive music back in the day. The fact white family famously formed there and called it home and all sorts going on in the upstairs room where parrot would you cocaine? But when we arrived, it was evacuated quiz not. Believe it and. We raped guess the outback and shoutout TIMBUKTU and nineteen seventy four random points. And then it was through the estates to the hero of Switzerland. Soon, you may remember to be a tower. Block? But Alas and indeed a lack. Closed at ten PM. This is the problem with the new normal no fucker updates to websites. No. Not that the hero hit Switzerland how's IT website? If you WANNA find out when there you have to send them and telegram. anyway pushed on to the junction junction. This too was just about to close at ten thirty. So you know thinking. Way order two points each and settled. onto the terrorists to enjoy the traffic. And perhaps not unrelated to this. It was favorite probably not. Yeah well, that sounds wonderful. I went on a mini cool myself out to a depth with Mrs started off with Busta Busta Mantis. Has Jamaican fusion fusion food. What makes it fusion chips? Actually, that's not true. That's harsh is is. It's very It's. Very nice food and villages room. Lovely. But it's next around mountain and you are sitting out on the roundabout now that's you know Knicks Knicks the roundabout Oh. Yeah. Okay. Inside faith. On Creek side. I think having a pump on the sort of quite industrial bit means you can you can have you drinking outside music can be worked out. And Yeah. It's a people. Looks it kind of. Shutting Down, how many beers they're offering? Many as we found today yes. Yes. But not little faith they had. Six, absolute bangers. Trinamul them. Not. All of them but but the majority perhaps. And football is back life. Suppressing. Being. Good Fun. you've been to some life game i. mean there are many available to us but you may find. Read I have you came down to To watch him. To see the friendly match against. The cry. Is it in crave foods cray cray food slash. Bonner's. And, Yeah. It was great to ICS Sealer Games. Again and also see some of those faces. Somewhere where it's just test. It's spear into debt by this. Isn't it? Yeah. That very dirty Burg was Ziegler ingredient salt fat. normally the keep it gets a bit of. Defense from the it was the other way round. VCD given us. Greens I think we were out have much practice. Apologize to him and said I'm sorry. This because he was, he was on yourself the buggers which was ironic 'cause he's big boned himself. Yeah. He was. He was suggesting that we might be interested in Vegan, burgers? Yes. Because we're hungry. Hamlet. hipster cons something like that. Yeah. Yeah he mediating. I stopped beforehand for one in era. Yes which had never been to I've always been meaning to go to since Kerr Church wrote that piece on desert about air. Yes. So linked to on the coast. It's It was a while ago now and it was a great. Good he's made me made me want to visit because you. You may remember she. wrote about seeing a pig driving a car. I mean this is an odd place. And she mentioned the running horses pub where I went for Pine and. Although it sounds like that one I think it was another pub that she did have an issue with some running. Local travelers turned up at the pub. With in on their horses and rode them into the pub. And when The. Issue with them. They said well, it says pet's welcome. pint outside the running horses by the street and watched opponent trap overtake. Police car. Well perfect perfect. and. Found another local game Peckham Town F C who just landed the London trophy indeed With is thought to be the first men's team to win a senior trophy under the management of a woman. Mary. So, congratulations to them and her. I thought time for their I league match of the season record attendance of about seventy. And they've got a famous tiny stems there the holds about. Eight people. The record what is seventeen seventeen? Pandemic indeed in these post Kovic Times now limited to one person at the time. As Little Q.. but it's a lovely day out on the south circular three quit infrequent for ten pair. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Be taking advantage of them over the next. Yeah. Weeks that was great and funding on the football front. I went down to see touch that women play another hundred seventy five souls champion Hill on Sunday to watch an eight goal thriller. Eight nil. Win. that. Often and the great thing about women's team is that afterwards, they will go out for a pint. Do they. The human. Just, like me except fitter than better foot will. Put up a quick mention four to places that. We both went to didn't we in Ramsgate? On the. Air Yeah apparently. Yeah. Very little memory I remember the boating pond. The voting point was great. Now I'm the boating pond on the West. The team behind the Ravens in the skies have opened the ravens gay on see. A pop up a majestic voting. Yeah. Lovely. Gloss in your hand on the palm trees and some Silky from speakers it could be on base. and we enjoyed a fulsome range of gats ails washed down with Margarita, slush aces lot you do. and. You've heard. Pub Garden. Pub Beach. Beach always coming back to me now. Zehr. Off We went to another face on the west side on West road actually the Bedford which was a rough house. It used to be the new landlord described as the place where drug dealers went to die. Anyway the kneeland imported five tons of Sahara and sand tipped into the garden. now, you can lounge out in the garden deckchairs with the fate of and we did shoes off even and we did. Quite sensational feeding couple of. Gems Dan the in Ramsgate. Right. Onto. Posts. Coast yes. Yes. Actually did some did some writing on deserter? About Peter Perez, not everybody knows who Pete About he was in the band Kuti only once lived in south London and Forest Hill mostly and one of the singles another girl another planet has been on virtually every indy combination. You may not know the only ones, but you know that song you'll never. Sing it. Well if it wasn't for the copyright issues. But yes, he was a bit of a south London legend he Didn't live in south London with his wife and his girlfriend and his valet. You can get away with it. Yes whilst he was putting together the band, the only ones and he was he financed the band basically through dealing as she. he he smokes an incredible amount and it's even hit the team used to smoke. Molly Yes. Good until two one source. Who will be visiting late who who's footsteps will be pulling later in date. And? Yes he even had a snort off with Keith Richards. Keith Richards wanted to produce the band and had a couple of meetings about it, and then they didn't really get much further than competitive cocaine sniffing. But yeah. He had a very interesting life and his the biography about him is really trillion well written by Nina Antonio. and we a piece on the site at the moment with a couple of videos from his mean it's amazing. He survived. Because he, he the only ones had like three albums as of. Late, seventies maybe the and then disappeared a split up and he disappeared for ten years down drugs home popped up again disappeared again. And Struggling heroin and crack addiction but then popped up about three years ago did a CETERA album with his sons behind him and yeah. Somehow has survived I think the suffers now with COPD. Is As does his? Wife because. They've been smoking and chasing the Dragon. on this kind of tin. Tin Foil nobody. warned you about tin foil. Keeps making. Toxic. Tenfold There's not the heroin all the crack. And so. Next we're going on the trial. Yeah subject for this episode. We're going to. A spot in Peckham. It's now the Damilola Taylor Center. where he played a seminal Gig to some school children. Bob of cool was a history and influential figure in reggae. He really brought reggae to the to the world. Imported into the mainstream chance the. Incredible crossman pop songs as well as ring a and covered lots of different genres even folk. And but he's he's trips to London were quite significant in this Korea definitely yeah. He was already a huge stall but he in in his own country but he came here. and that. Kicked kicked his career on the. and south London Hannah Poulton definitely yeah. Let's. Just go. Right. Here we at the. Taylor Center in Peckham, formerly Pekka. Amana. pick them out of school when Bob Marley was invited here to play a Gig in classroom with his mate Johnny Nash. who was was probably more famous England at the time due to. His single I can see clearly now. he was already a big star in Jamaica. By nineteen two, but he was trying to broaden his audience coming to England. And it wasn't going very well. Was it the he was struggling to get radio play sterling to get gigs and he made some Geezer in Soho Club who? Disagree come and do a little GIG GIG for his The schoolchildren he talked. And so he came here Johnny Nationally they played an acoustic to acoustic sets for the kids. And then afterwards, Played football in that yard there in that yard with with with all the boys and. Looks like they're going to build on that yard now it got. Some. Building fencing around it But yeah. We Watch documentary recently didn't we about that time in? In Peckham. With some of the children talk about their experience. But quite amazing to see the pictures of Johnny National. Folk, money sitting there in front of the school kids that gets us. Yeah. Amazing. It's quite good Taco. It's on the I play. Now should you fantasy catching it and? Some of his experiences. In England informed his next album catcher fire, which was a kind of A. Another kind of breakthrough for him is slight change of style and not not for the traditional reggae fans and he was a pioneer in. Rick. Ails. And he returned to tour with their album in seventy three and play two weeks in Peckham. wrote. Plays all over the country, but he played it Mr B's. A forty-three Peckham High Street also known as Mr B's bouncing. Ball. At in Hawaii. And yeah. He also played on the old grey whistle test when he was over that time and that was that was quite important again, boy into a new audience. And it very unusual to have a reggae artist on a on a rock show was Russia. Wasn't here. And then his his. Audience was even further broadened when Eric Clapton covered I, shot the sheriff, which was a massive hit on both sides of the. Atlantia. Slightly ironic given that he was a racist taunt. Maybe it wasn't then. May grew into maybe yeah. Yeah although. You know powwows but he he supported that speech A. And later gave one of his own which was. Worse. SPEC Jockeys. Lovely. Lovely. Yeah. So yeah I think you're coming to England was a big step in his career wasn't in it it moved him on a bit. Hit, brought into a much wider audience, and by the time he came for his next trip is to sold out and his audience is kind of fifty, fifty of black and white. And he he kind of brought. reggae from Jamaica to the world. and. Considered London and Britain as his second home in many ways didn't he i? Think he recognized it. had. A big influence on him and although when he was here about accounts, he missed the Sun Sea Beach. Punctured CETERA. Lots of about he loved yes he could still get ganger. Yes. Thanks Don. Let. He could still play football when they will probably his music football and we'd where he's yes, he's loves. Are we going to mention here that he used to play Bulla in Battersea. Park we candy. Yes. He he used to live in Chelsea for TI. He ended up there after an a session assassination attempt on him in make. And Yeah, he he just loved he would have a football everywhere. They went. He Yeah. They take it on, take a ball on tour course and he would say you know if you want to get to know me, you have to play football against me in the waiters rock. Was it Peter Tashi said that wherever they went on tour that stop off the town? No playing in five or something, and he said that book would just go and buy those footballs. I know. Yes, yes and he used to buy kit to take home to trench town. For the kids they're young play with play with Eddy Grant Battersea power. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Next up the news news. News. So the News put-in-bay news I mind done my pumpkin guess but there is one you wanted to add, right? Yes. There is an i. only know this because of Emma who? is at every pomp and burry opening MS, dump Ms Dump. Thank you Emma appointee the Silver Fox to us. This is in the Bar Bexley, where which is become my microprobe central in i. mean there's so many Michael there possibly because it's the least London like Barra. Yes. It does candidates the epicenter of my republic explosion. On the kind of feels like Kent. Difficult time to be opening Microsoft fill and in that location as well it's on. PDA Avenue in kind of Bexley and we know it because it's round the corner from where my parents used to And if it had opened when they were like I would have visited much more often. Say Fair. Okay in other news I thought mentioned the perimeter. Project, by Quinton Lake whose Zim Spent five years walking round the edge of Britain. Not. Six thousand six, hundred miles. Any finished it yesterday. he finished Erkki Day. It's been a great twitter feed really enjoyed it. filled is wonderful observations and photos will be I'm sure great book. I would have gone to macy mistake but preparing for this. fucking. I think the most impressive thing of the whole trip is getting the time off from his wife and children. Young Charles Wow maybe maybe too I think definitely won. I mean, what would you say if you said you were for five years? Don't come back then. If I said to Mrs Raider boy by. Five years. She'd say bring me back a cream egg. in more walking news Andrew Morris Walking. Slightly more modest hundred and sixty four miles in memory of his father Ralph. Yes. The X. Hamlet. Plan. To raise funds for the Kale Foundation in the community along the way. you can search. Ralph. Morris pilgrimage. On read all about the trip. Lincoln on that was well, yes. Indeed. Good Luck to Andrew tells us he will be raising gloss in memory of his father every night. And lunchtime. Roy. Andrew also would like to be remembered. Plus Chateau to. Do. What what what? Y- yeah. Are they called urban one urban one they they receive grapes grown all over London lie in back gardens and scrublands etcetera. And turn them into. Wow that's brilliant and you can sign up and take yours along this Saturday, the nineteenth of September. I wonder what it tastes like. I mean people say it's Tastes okay. But I'm going to give troy. Yeah. It's going to be a massive slander isn't it? it's always tricky. Isn't it with? Making it from scratch. The runs move my friend Ali thought Humor Rodney story tries hand at winemaking any report vineyard emigrated to Australia. And them off the first harvest, he sent away a sample of wine to the lab to be analyst. And it came back with a note that said your horse has a bladder infection. After that. The stock market. what else we go Oh we'll go to Kiev hang of it. Couple that. Thanks to the Brixton had to bring this to our attention. As an article on Bloomberg actually is a group of Finnish research is believed they've discovered. What people have spent? Sentry Searching For a cure for hangovers. Apparently. A- dose of twelve hundred milligrams of the amino acid l system. was found to reduce alcohol related nausea and headache while a dose of just six hundred milligrams. Helps Alleviate, associated, stress, and anxiety. this is coating to researchers at the University of Helsinki Invasive, eastern Finland. Around Dump Blind Study. Lots of volunteers consuming alcohol. As. Well as Reducing or even eliminating entirely else esteem also helped reduce the need of drinking the next day. thereby cutting the risk of alcohol addiction the need to drink the next day when you have a terrible hangover. Do Ya the dog of course. Yeah. Anything that kills. Well I'll until this finding yes, exactly. Apparently Binge drinking is very film Finland and That's why. The center of this sin this test miss. Experiment. How a little bit further down the article, it says the researches received funding from the company which sells the L. Sistine supplements. Twist still was. So that's probably what other bowls in and. You can have dose of L. Sixteen or you can basically do I do and have a dose of double-leg banking and chips the lovely nap. Back in the game. I did enjoy in the articles. The study ran into some difficulties. Some participants weren't able to consume all the alcoholic quiet. excluded. Some had such high tolerance levels that they experienced. No hangover symptoms. And some was sidelined because they insisted on topping the dose by heading for the bar. Good. I'm. Right even though we've been talking about almost nonstop for the anti cost, we're GONNA do title. We're GONNA do towns yes. I. businesses to pump recently. You'd be surprised to hear and I was talking to. Aligned likely friend of mine who she she it's not a rough public Chichi runs and I won't say which one these But. They do have more than Fisher of Ankara and a young policeman came into pop recently and decided to be a real. stickler wanting to see license and he wanted to search the premises and was so thing. and doing this inspection. He found a baseball bat was just above the bar. And he said to. This is suck. Deadly weapon. Can you out. For. This. And she said, well, if you look closely is a bowl next to it. It's not a deadly weapon. Children Living, upstairs. This is this is what we do. You're going to have to get up earlier in the morning to catch me out my lap and he said to a little boy nearby am. Yes and activists isn't it and she said, yes, ma'am. Yeah. Smack him on the wrist. Yeah. She managed to get out of it somehow but. She wasn't pleased that. They need the police around the law. To have a poking around for. That baseball back election. LESS THAN IDEAL Next we're. On the trail. Backpack on trial back on the trail with going. Wilkinson more of Molly's footsteps. We're going to go to Crystal Palace Park where he played his launched UK cake. and. His last London Gig. At the Crystal Palace Garden Policy, which was a huge event in between seventy and eighty. Young the old rusty up. The rusty that. Yeah. So we'll. See. At Crystal, palace? Park. Where both molly. Lost on the GIG in nineteen eighty? Very beautiful is to today isn't it is really lovely. Isn't it the stages still he'll though it's in some states of disrepair yeah crystal. Palace. Bowl I. Think it was cooled. Filled with. Surrounded by water. and then you can sit up on a hillside. Watching the gigs scene of many great gigs in the seventies eighties. That's right. Yeah. the Crystal Palace Garden Party Pink Floyd the faces Beach Boys Lou Reed. oxy Music Elvis Costello and that alleged account Eric Clapton. Enough him. So. Yeah. By the time Bob had returned to live in London. He he was he was a pretty big stall at in Nineteen, seventy seven he brought out the exodus album with a string of hits and Time magazine called it the greatest. The Twentieth Century LIKE WAITING IN VAIN AND Jamming JEMAINE JAM in Yeah. Doughnut. Susan. Yeah if he did four to bridge with with punk which was going going off at the time, didn't he? And PUNKY REGGAE party was one of the tricks on the album. He named checks bands. Yeah not do. that. Maybe that's where he got the idea for jamming. You. Not Going to get this information anywhere else. Information. And unfortunately prior to this Gig in one, thousand, nine, hundred. Injured a toe playing football in perished in the someone. Foot. and it revealed because it wouldn't he'll reveals. What turned out to be skin cancer. and he had some alternative therapy I'm afraid do. Yes which of course didn't work would urge you if you're unfortunate enough to to get cancer to see proper doctor and see. Certificates. Yeah and he wouldn't have toan `putative, which might have A. Let. Him Live Longer So it ruins football. Yes. Fair enough. Yes Sir but by one thousand, nine, hundred, one of the one of the biggest stars in the world. And he played here in Crystal Palace Park right here not stage. Yeah. Supported by the average white band. And Joe Jackson. Yeah, yeah. So as we can see in front of the stage is A. So potent, really an algae covered potent. Yeah, and there was a lot of week going down the GIG and it was a warm day in. June, and people just piled into the potent. Getting. Even more stoned and some some get. killed a duck. And through a Joe Jackson. And he stormed off you wouldn't come back on these very upset about he loves ducks. Ducks. Like bobby smoking as well. He he was a big campaign to stop smoking being banned in bars judge. Smoking facts can thanks man, yeah Yeah, Fox ducks. Yeah. Yeah, and so the boy was played a fantastic set by all accounts legendary Gig, and then after she came back on his own with his acoustic and then played redemption song. which that point was unreleased came to that year. very special. Moment for For everybody, who was there none of whom can remember it? You living down the road there's an one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, nine, hundred. have been living in that didn't know anything about him Of course, I would have only been five or six. Expected to. Be. Sure. Yeah and yes, and as a result of he's he's cancer Bob Molly died. At. The. Young. Age. Of Thirty six. UNBELIEVABLE ISN'T IT And he carried on for some time still doesn't away but. The compilation album legend so zillions. Around the world what does the Post. A poster on everyone's wall seemed to be at one point. On the seventies and eighties. Those like to smoke up yeah yeah. and. Yeah. Amazing. He came from a country that was exploited only Britain and he came here with A. Lot of positive vibes and to the author. Babylon. Babylon and help help change it in some way. Definitely, the influences palpable wasn't there not just punk post punk as well and yeah. The police. Not. Not. Yeah Yes that's Bob. I'll be making an investigation into rest. Of any. The religion or way of life espoused by Bob. And apart from the stuff about gold. Religion. Bits I think that might be something in it I very what's that the sanctity of cannabis Yes. The tree of life which bears twelve men are fruits and unitive fruit every month and the leaves tree with the heating of the nation's. Revelations twenty two to be good mate. And an I am now going to hear myself with the help of this blue. Peter? LUPITA. When I wrote earlier. Called sebate. Don't see you can't see. Down over your eyes. Oh Yeah. That's better. Well. Look would you look at the colors? That's amazing. You love this. I'll sure what are you going to? You Know Pasta Duchy on the left hand side. I'd love to great. But I'm I'm prevented from doing so but what I can only call Kovic common sense I don't understand that this. Sharing of splits during a pandemic would be foolhardy in extreme I'm sure you agree. Really the end of this debate could contain literally almost a dozen microscopic viruses that want sucks deep down in your lungs could do untold and lasting damage to the delicate lining of your, what the actual fucker they. They dinosaurs. Dinosaurs been. You have especially for me Thank you. YOU'RE A BOMB DASA Okay time for bum. Bum Dasa. My first offering. Is Douglas Adams, oh? Yeah of. CHOCOLATE CHOCOLATE Yeah Yeah he famously said I love deadlines are like the bushing sound they make as they fly by. Yeah. He said he liked ideas and hatred writing Benza he had a great idea for a book once a starship title. WROUGHT, great idea. took it to the publishers. They loved it. They gave him a tasty advance. Years went by still hadn't finished it years and years. To nearly seven years after he got the. Is Five weeks to guy before the final final final deadline and he rang up a mate Terry Jones. Fame is it can you write this book for me a copy? Any dates did they Jerry Jones record already? Yeah. Tremendous procrastination good. One. Oh I've got a couple of nominations sweet one from a guy from fessel the twitter feed of anonymous. Confessions? He wrote during lockdown. I bought a pack of twelve adult nappies. And when drunk regularly pair on comedy wet myself in various locations around my house hugely liberating. Like. Him. To be considered. and. John Shea tweeted about playboy tennis star. vitas. Colitis do you remember him a little bit before my time but? I thought it might be a good submission John tweeted just being reminded one of my all time favorite sports quotes. Playboy tennis visco lighters, glass of champagne in hand after a rare victory over Jimmy Connors in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty. He says. Let. That be a lesson to your nobody beats vitas Carolina seventeen times in a row. Those three. Well, you know, I, I think this is the funniest. I think as far as bummed dosing is concerned I think the man with the adult nappy is good. Will play anonymous. You're a boom DASA. What's is it the scene? Social Media. Yes well, you may well make noises like that because the first one is a very sexy one. This is Love Sexy. This is from Tips Stevenson who? has written about men way men right about women all. This is She did a whole threat there's loads of them. Kicked off with this. He charged into the room. Testicles Bouncing Gaily. Enough. I source scar and wondered if he'd have a sick. You opened his plump lips. Promise but annoying words came out something about own match. The temp had his two top buttons open. Detino how much kissed her eating at me flirtatiously. Almost, more fun if he doesn't talk to what allowing myself fantasy after all I was running fortune five hundred, he was just a blank page for me to write my desires. He set opposite on the tube daily. This was an invitation. When he picked up his copy of shortlist, she would start a conversation he was shot she could tell by how he crossed his legs to shield his pocket potatoes. He liked to finger to turn a page filthy little shy smut. Loads that threatened is absolutely, but just to prove it men. Don't worry about women in. His an example from ogled awesome posts. CASSANDRA, woke up to the rays of the sun streaming through the slats of her blinds cascading over her naked chest. She stretched a breasts footing lifting with her arms. As she greeted the some she rolled out a bed put on a shirt a nipples permanently showing through the thin fabric. She breasted boob early to the stairs and Titi downwards. Tremendous. What was the first threat again, I'm going to see now that was tipped Stevenson's woman writes about men like men right? Bent Women. Yeah. one of the thing that amuse me where we put a a cool out on twitter to ask if anybody could. Figure out which south London legend connects the stones the WHO's squeeze? The Dole's blink one, eight, two, baby shambles and T rex. Coast Pizza Parrot but MR folds e tweeted. Is it Con Custodian of the Bride's Hill Tavern. then. tweeted Keith Moon famously remains bond posthumously. Do some kind of a carry on the carnal nature in the Gulf Room Oman combing talk about it if you ask him. Dental. Okay. I saw A couple things on the social media. Benjamin Myers came up with a neat way to circa invent the rule against Moore six people meeting up. We alluded yes. That's what we need. He said he tweeted I'm organizing an illegal rave on the Moors come dressed in Tweeden and carrying guns they can't fucking touch us. Best, artisans lunch. and. The other thing that you must have seen it was the dental at. ODDS joining in coaxing us back to work. these ads on the tube the first of which read and I think it bears reading in full for the full horror. The first which read. Hearing an alarm putting on a tie. Carrying a handbag receptionists caffeine filled air taking lift seeing your second family water cooler conversations, proper bands, the buses, jokes, plastic plants, office gossip those wade carpets face to face meetings not having to make lunch seeing BCC accidentally replying all hearing buzzwords leaving early for a cheeky afternoon in the sun. Wind. You fucking. Absolutely fucking. Car cracked. First of all. I'm not sure which is worse out of receptionists or hearing buzz words. But someone else pointed out. I think it's just so telling. The end of list of things we supposedly love miss going to work they had to add leaving early. Before we will. Talk shows. And they admitted to put. For a beer. Exactly yeah nothing about sleeping in the toilets. No. I'm I'm never sanitizing delegate nights. and. Finally Oven Welsh the author. Had some advice on twitter about Sunday's. He wrote Sunday's a tough bastard. They think they're they where they race reset you into wage slavery. Is it fuck? So you have to treat someday rough show who's boss and hammer the Boston relentlessly, the recovery must be a Monday or Tuesday that time. attack. Wise words very wise where very. Well played. On Sundays. Well I suspect that we have time for this time out. Yes. I'm just wondering Vince voice about Sunday's to Wednesday's to. You mean. Exactly. Let's get paralytic in a responsible sort of way. was hoping you were going to say I. Mean it's the end of the working day. Yes. It's the end of all working day if you can go to that. Thank you very much for listening and thanks to Pope Molly for being such a do absolutely. Thanks to go out London the going out in town. And we'll leave you with this. for we know we may have said this before. Hard work never killed anyone. But why take the chumps A quick. Kutu because we know where we're going we do going because we're so we're in Crystal Palace Pong. You Ain't got to consider the options around here and there's one that will favorite, which is a taproom which you say. We very fond of. Local crew. Named after. Tree. The Barry's. Enough? Well since this industry would have to do the revered as well or just one pint. If you go. The Douglas. Attack really important affiliated. With. Gipsy Hill Brew. Thank. God. Look for the sitting out. The traffic with a punt.

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Episode 129  Conference Speaking with Karl Hughes

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Episode 129 Conference Speaking with Karl Hughes

"Came uh-huh hello and welcome to the six figure developer podcast podcast where we talk about new and exciting Technologies Professional Professional Development Clean Code career advancement and more. I am John Calloway. I'm Clayton Hunt Nash. With us today as Carl Hughes Carl is is technology team builder software engineer and startup enthusiast he cto at the Great Network and Helps Technology Speakers succeed at CFP FP land. Welcome Carl and hey could be here. Guys so Carla before we kind of jump into the Things would you just give our listeners. A little little bit of background but for yourself maybe tell them how you got started in the industry yet. It sure so I have been working with education. Technology start ups for the past eight years or so long before that we were just talking before the show about our connection is Louisville Kentucky which we all have emanated from at some level so I did my very first internship with GE appliances Global Kentucky as washing machines at my best memory or. I don't know funnest memories from at that. Time was sitting in the basement where we do the black box. Testing on. Washing machines is basically a pressing everybody in every combination that you could possibly imagine in writing it all down and then sending up to the senior engineers Tell you okay. We did a new version tomorrow. You're going to do again about the Mo- soul-sucking software about or you can do. But but at the same time you learn a lot in it was a good intro to the industry I suppose okay cool and then so what are you doing these days. You say their CTO. Yeah so more recently and have been working for the rain now for about four years. We great papers for K.. Through twelve teachers way it works. Is We have a pool of college. College students who work around the country remotely to grade essays for teachers that work with US and It's kind of a weird thing. Is that not something that other companies are doing We work with several dozen schools in the US and a couple of districts now as well so early stage startup but On it gave me the opportunity a couple years ago to start kind of I guess I got the bug start speaking and Kinda got into new architecture explaining some of the things. We had bill from the reasons that we built things the way we had You know one of the fun things were with a small early stage startup as you making a ton of Greenfield we feel that For so tune into and obviously escudo out of those up in the early days and so the great thing is that when you go and talk about Out that you can talk about the pros and cons the cons pros and so that got me into speaking couple years ago. I started by applying to about fifty eighty conferences. My first year I got seven acceptances. Six of them actually happened. One of the conferences got canceled for no fault of mine and the happens. That's one of the things you find. Is you start speaking and then at going through that whole thing finding fifty. CFP's that were submit to. I I had this huge spreadsheet of CFP's and from there. I decided to start bailing out old ones close soon to my friends who also spoke and maybe six months to a year later itself landing page and see land was born in. So that's been my side project. Last year I would imagine working in a startup open and making some of those early decisions that it's pretty easy to worry and stress about the the decisions that you make so it sounds like you didn't really worry maybe interested over a a couple of different choices in progress from there. What were some of those early decisions that may be plagued you or the You stressed about making. Yeah what's interesting. They range from the very low level. Like what database are we going to use and how we're going to index it to the very high level. What is the user experience needs to be? How do we go live? Like how often do we deliver software all kinds of things so it's really hard. I think that's one of the things that is most challenging about this role. Where in in early days? You're doing everything I found what was really helpful is to find a good group of mentors some of Chicago some of them abroad. Connect with remotely elite as well as listening to I guess. Obviously it's a big one bill so just reading books. There's a interesting book called the Architecture Open source applications that I read a couple years ago it goes through all messy and weird decisions that were aid build these huge open source projects and you just realize what you read that okay. My software is bad but also where his bat. And that's okay like that. We're all just trying to make it a little better. All the time and the business requirements are changing on this so some of the decisions Or tangible are we gonna go with the micro services architecture we're GONNA try to elevate monolith. Are we going to use separated front back in. Are we going to use. HP As as a language or we're GONNA use note as language. Are we gonNA use on or you know we're GONNA try to follow every trend of which Framework is hot today. Or we're gonNA just kind of stick with what we and those kinds of decisions are really hard to go back on. Once you've made in so you Kinda they have to live with them and there's the things you sort of learn along the way But I I really enjoy it as well so I think that it's a unique opportunity. Students a chance that you know as a lot of larger companies. Get that chance so going going back in in your answer They're just a little bit. You mentioned agent Finding mentors what processes did you use to go on and find those mentors. I mean that's one of the more difficult things to do our industries to find somebody that is knowledgeable enough and willing to help Jenny tricks or or anything that you could share. That would help people do the same absolutely. The Big One is staying in touch with people so when I realized at some point was that I I would meet people. Let's say I go to meet up and I meet the speaker briefly and I say this is a great talk and then at the end and I never talk to that person again. That's not very useful to me or the speaker and what I found was it had started off another spreadsheet I kept a spreadsheet of all the people that I sort of want to keep in touch with because maybe they were peers or maybe they were headed Munich career or little hyme in their career now and help bring along and keep in touch that has paid off dividends much greater than I can can explain so some tangible examples that I got in touch with somebody somebody who I guess this got my current job. I met the founder somewhere I liked your idea. She basically no software developer with her issues completely league. I had no idea where she was from there. We stayed in touch a few months later. She got some funding she hired on and then just recently this last month. I just hired tired of upper because I've stayed in touch with her for two years from meet UPS. We've gone to actually spoke at her boot camp that she went to and like. You can't do that unless you intentionally usually stay in touch with people so stars Reggie in when you do get the chance to meet people just kind of put an spreadsheet if you like and every six months send an email and I'd say hey how's it going when he get coffee. Grab a lunch. Maybe it takes time in it. It's one of those things that you have to invest sort of in your your your your network in in hiding mentors because it doesn't happen easily. Yeah that's what I really enjoy about. The speakers groups the user user groups the conferences. It seems like there's a really helpful networking everybody's really encouraging and supportive of one. Another the three of US used to work in Louisville Kentucky in intended the Dot net is a group there and Palooza conference in the summer or various times of the year when when it was scheduled and then still go back to that conference once a year and see the same familiar faces and and rekindle those those relationships that that we might have. I've let languish a little bit in our absence but just looking on on twitter about the the support of community on twitter and the past couple of weeks reading about a lot of our friends that have gone to the Antarctic In really looking forward to them bringing back penguins for everybody. Just you know it's really encouraging to see the community. Supportive of those. That are interested in speaking in Cherry. Yeah I would agree. I found the the speaker community to be one of the more helpful of all the technical communities and I think it sort of makes sense because when you volunteer to speak at a conference rarely do you get paid. Rarely do you get any correct Tangible benefit but you're helping hundreds or dozens of people in the audience learned something new or learn that it's okay screw up or whatever it is that you're getting to and I think that that sort of means a data transfer people who are naturally kind of helpful so I've been in some speak bigger Slack chat groups are slight groups and some groups just kind of people staying in touch with them and then like you said you see him at the same conferences. Every every year I for me is mid West is kind of by people in whenever I get to go. It's like everybody. I know I know that that will that that you know it's it's there's a lot of fun it's It gives you this way to keep in touch with people that you would be submitted to a variety of different local. Oh user groups in both national and international conferences and even even if my talk isn't submitted I usually get pretty good feedback as to wide or maybe how it could could approve it. How could approve the abstract in order to to maybe be selected at a future conference? You'd you'd mentioned that you submitted your first venture into speaking you when you submitted to a number of different places speak What types of venues were those? The first year I was not as selective as I because I am now in a partly it was. I had no idea what I was submitting. In what the conference were. If this were like if any money was going to say US I've I always felt like okay. I can speak okay but I've never ridden abstract so I had no idea what that was. That was gonNA be like anyway. I looked at a couple of. There's a few different kinds of conferences that you've in target one is the sort of regional technology specific watson eventually dot net user goes out to maybe a state or two that's like a little dot net regional conference or there's at national conferences insurance. Well same engaged in that. All these communities have wicket regional and national international conferences. So you can kind of go technology specific. And then there's some sort of ron ones. They cover a ton of things. So Code mashes a really good example It I think they have like two thousand and three thousand dollars every year. It's just wild to see and for that they cover so many different technologies nontechnical. AM technical talks that a lot of stuff gets accepted and they have like ten tracks running once. So if you want to speak those kind of big conferences cover Good and then. There's kind of leadership focused and team focused conferences so the lead developers well-known Goodwin. Has I think three locations nations now the new London New York. Ab Still Austin Texas and that kind of confidence. It's a little more like softer talks managerial talks. It's like making the architectural decisions so you get out of the technology specific softening of higher level. So all those can be good in. You have to know which talk doc goes with which conference in which audience and that is probably the hardest thing in also the thing that I screwed up the most most new speakers. Screw up what. What are some of the ways that you help speakers? Sort of got of hone their abstracts and find the find the right conferences to submit to or or went up. Yes yes so. I personally a little bit of one on one mentoring with friends who ask for help abstracts. There's a speaker slack group that I've been in. It is also a dish people do that. I've done a little of that but mostly with land mostly just about finding the open. CFP's offering bring us that give you a little advice digest a lot of things that I've learned so last year against the interview about thirty thirty five speakers who were speaking at international in Events around the country as well and I in all those interviews I kind of ask speakers some key things like how do they finds you have these Howard. They sort of selecting which ones are right for them. How what is some of the biggest mistakes? They made tips for New People. So it's really great to get all this advice and then distill it down to this one. Big Guide House built one site so with Dan. There's a big section on rating abstracts Picking the right conferences parts is and so there's a whole lot there but The biggest one is is sort of knowing who your audience is Ford. The conference in who it is for your talking so I'll give you an example. How you screw this up? I one time submitted to talk to a conference that was like a was more for Upon like that website administrators so people run through nights more press sites and They are more on the tend to be more on the design inside the administrative side and my talk was about testing distributed software systems in pretty it. It was not the right talk for that audience and got accepted which I think you know they probably got. Oh well he's going to figure out a way to merge in with the audience it no. I did because idiot so I got up there naked. Tell there's a lot of blank stares in size like okay. Am I doing it live like I got back off and like make this adjustable adjustable put this at the right in the right level. It's really hard to do if you didn't prepare for that so I'm now much more careful but you have to learn those kind of things just doing what. What types of talks did you submit in those early days so I found initially a lot of talks got exempted were ones around specific cevik technical topics kind of similar to what you give it a beat up? I think that Those are maybe a good place to start because every conference wants wants a certain number of really hard new cutting edge technical talks And as I've kind of done it a little longer I've been trying to shift the little more towards I guess like softer talks for higher level talks about decisions and managing teams lately to have been giving an pitching a lot on writing unless code. So I think one of the things that I've noticed in the last ten years of writing software that the underlying tools to get us to a workable sort of minimum. Minimum level are so much better than they were in years ago in goes even further. They were their bed or twenty years ago. So in other words you can start with a framework gives you a ton of love features out of the box research project or you can go find an API. That does a lot of things for you. You don't have to go build a converter on your own. There's another building alling. PDF converters. But I'm really lazy. And so I think it's really great. Somebody else have won twenty bucks a month for cheap compared time. That is what we're doing. I'll have to maintain inch so there's things like that strict like that. I think developers need to sort of their general. Like I must build it in. It's not built here that not it. Is it yeah. It's just A. It's hard to do that because it's either are some risks when it comes to picking someone else's technology instead of your own but there there are different risks when you build everything yourself scratch so for anyone interested in the guide that you mentioned earlier. What topics are actually covered in the guide ride? And where might they find the guide. Yeah so safety. Land Dot Com. There's a link just after the Sort of header. Dang admissions Out So it says it says like comprehensive guide to speaking at conferences. You can also look for on Google. CFP Land Guide will come up. But basically what I did was. It's kind of walked through. Let's pretend you're completely new to speaking. You've never even been to attack conference. What do you have to do to go from that to actually deliver your I talk and I I sort of started off with? Just what are Very like if you've been to a bunch after students give that section and as it goes it's like why do people wanna go speak instead of just attend. The conference ahead of the conference is actually choose their speakers so there's a CFPB process but like what are they looking for in. That kind of thing is really hard to suit to figure out until you talk to some organizer's or reads on coast more measures. They tell you it's about these things that sometimes you would expect there's finding the right. CFP is for for your. You're talking to your audience again. There's submitting abstracts in actually writing them. The sort of technical writing that goes into them and there's a lot of great tips there that opposed from other people people give away. There's actually like making your presentation and I'm delivering the slides which is a whole nother skill. It's interesting when you speak. You have to have skill sets. That are not necessarily the same field right. What you're going to talk about and then you have to actually deliver what you're talking about and make slides along the way to or some kind of visual eight and it's really hard to do all of those things? It takes a lot more time than yeah I think people into the Bait and then finally the last bit is just kind of the logistical things. You should know pay to go to your first conference. I for example sample it just kind of -ssume that when conference accepts me as a speaker that means the conference is going to happen. In the speaker the organizers will just tell me all I need to know how to to sit back and wait that is a dangerous assumption to make and I found out the hard way as well but I think it's like being proactive communication. I think there And so each of these actions kind of dies in the whole thing is about seventeen thousand words as a short book but you can kind of pick and choose the areas that you're most interested in based on where you're at your speaking journey in in your assembling this information for the Guide and putting together your thoughts and gathering thoughts from those that accept except abstracts. What are the items that we should be thinking about putting together abstracts for our talks? Yeah so some of the things that I've noticed a lot of speakers talk about besides just fitting the conference is like. Is it actually in exciting topic to you. Is it something something that you will go up on stage in deliver with enthusiasm or is it. Something you just think is like well. I can talk about that the speakers who are really sort of top opt here get really jazzed up about with at and then the other side of that is. Do you actually owed at topic so again. If you go on stage aged you just learned you walk through your first intro to react to joyal and then you just go. regurgitate stations may ask you a question. Outside of your death. It's GonNa it'd be tough and you're going to struggle in. Maybe not the you know the best place to do that On the other hand if you've been working with postcards for five years which a lot of offers sure have been working with the database for years you probably picked up two or three things that most helper somehow and you probably don't even realize that so there's these unique kernels of knowledge that people have because they worked in a certain industry or certain feel for long enough that sometimes they just take for granted. I was talking to a friend the other day he was saying. I have no idea what to speak about. And I was asking about some of his projects at work. And he says he just went through internationalizing. I never done internationalization. I've always worked for companies where we were only in the US matter but ends a huge challenge. And I was like I would love to hear that. I bet that's a talk that you could deliver every every conference in the country or the world because every developer runs into this. It's very hard is notorious the other things that come up or I. It's kind of like some of these. Things are definitely you must do. And some of these things are a little more light encouraged but not necessarily always the case so some some some speakers have talked with have mentioned. They want their talks to make the world better place so in. So maybe that means making code cleaner navient means increasing diversity. I industry maybe it means making environmental priorities more forefront of people's minds in so that can mean a lot of different things. There's no no it doesn't on every talk has make the world a better place necessarily but I think to some extent they do because hopefully people are waiting. The other one that a lot of speakers went to lasting omission is making your talks actionable and this was really interesting because a lot of talks are kind of is like the same thing I could have gotten by just reading the tutorial and I think that's a a weakness that Speakers point out with newer speakers like they don't realize they should go beyond or they should tell a personal story those kind of personal stories. And like here's the problem. Here's the solution used or very actionable whereas the whole like nick react up for the first time it's like well. I don't know that that's something you can go find that online so Trying to make that content unique is is is is a big deal but I also would not discouraged speakers from just trying even if you are giving talking something has been done a million times is it's not the most novel thing it just get up there and do it because the more comfortable you get the easier it is to deliver that next. Talk and you'll get better at a time so like anything. Thank you have to start. Goes that people beginner vase or else you're never gonna get that had created Gory Mountain at expert base which I feel like I'm still very much working working my way up now from the top so yeah I would say start at your local user group. 'cause Clayton I run a user group here in the Tampa Saint Pete Florida the area. And we're we're always very open and welcoming to new speaker so if you WanNa if you WanNa just get your feet wet maybe even see. If there's there's an opportunity to do a fifteen minute. Lightning talk they'll reach out to your local user group because I'm sure they'll they'd be more than willing to have you come in and speak. I run a meet up group here as well will end. Its as our two biggest problems or finding sponsors and speakers. And if you're willing to do those I wanted to talk to you Buddy Day Yet like you've got my phone number so I agree I think in. That's how I started to. I actually started off by giving my toxic local meet ups and out local area boot. Lucas this is another one. That's kind of a new thing. There's all these coating boot camps Coming up all over the country especially in bigger cities and they're always looking for people from ministry to come in and tell their students a little bit about what it's like actually working out there to great way to practice beginning you can give them a great way also to test your talks for it. Beginner friendless service which is is important because a lot of times they're exceptions. This lots of you want your talks to be like digestible by anyone. Even if they don't get all the the nuances every tiny little Parisian you want. You want someone who's never used technology that you're talking about to at least be able to follow and get something so I've found that really helpful to go to those Buchanan stocks there so I would get if I get blank faces there. It means I'm probably GONNA get blank faces in the conference. I don't want that so I need back. Here are just assume people show up to the conference with their blanket. Change it one of my favorite kinds of talks to give is is a more dangerous guests and fraught with peril. I thoroughly enjoy giving live. Coding talks which usually involves me starting with something. I want to show the the audience and falling flat on my face and then having to fix it in front of the audience. It's a bit of a drill in adrenaline rush and John Likes to see me fail. Let me clarify and say that I enjoy watching. Clayton's live coding demos because if if he encounters a problem it is very entertaining watching him recover and it's very very worthwhile to see how one deals with that unexpected behavior. Sure and recover from it because I've been to talk swear. An unexpected error occurred and it kind of tanked the the rest of the talk so much more inclined to be supportive and learn from how the individuals is recovering from that in the regard to live coding. Though do you have any advice that you might give to somebody surrounding live coding Either avoiding it or getting through it and and winning instead of instead of falling on your face. Yeah so this actually gives gives came up several times in the interviews did in like the others in different sources for tips for speakers and a lot of people just say they avoid live coding because it exactly of the reasons that you mentioned is that it is risky and you have to know. There's a good chance that you're going to get out there in whatever you prepare doesn't work wi fi or the video feed pick up your monitor for some reason. You can't control all of that so you're gonNA have to either be uncomfortable enough to sort of make it up as you go in. Some people are good improvisers. Or maybe you've been writing code long enough that you can just figure it out. You'll make something productive that people will get. I've also seen Jubilo flat on their face in not able to pick it back up in audience kind of jumped in and try to like one dollars got onstage with them and try to help him. can navigate through which was great. I mean again supportiveness of the community. Hopefully we're trying to help each other but you don't want to be in. That situation wishes not comfortable. So until you're very comfortable like coating onstage There's some things you can do to get yourself ready for it if you decide. Go with library one. Is You can practice beforehand with the actual equipment that you'll be using for the conference so if he gets a conference early if the day before owning up and you ask the maybe people are you should check with him beforehand. But can I go ahead plug into the Monitor and see how my lot code works. Make sure it all works with the actual lifestyle using you can have a video. The Obama up to go to which is a super great idea if I were ever doing live coding out probably give recordings tobacco two or something like that that I could just show or another Kenan method is to basically. Just give people the link in say like you know. Here's a step by step tutorial. I'm just GONNA show it Sorta show you highlights here rather than try to do it all live. which could also? That's kind of how I've done it when I've done live live. Coding is upset. I'm just going to give it to this step but if you want all the steps there get help your select for that. I should probably do some of those. Please don't it's it's so much much more but yeah there is something to be said for win. If you are a relatively new coder and you're in the audience and you see someone who's been doing this for twenty years go out there. It's screw it up it. It kinda makes you okay. I'm not the only one I know. There's now this whole like this whole world of people who code life twitch which I can't imagine you were maybe we're just to get out like and and it's very when you watch a little Cincinnati you realize first of all most what they do screen because you're just thinking and then second of all and they screw something. You're like yelling at the Monitor. It's that you missed the semi colon there. Of course they don't see it anyway so it is kind of good to show that you flaws to nap in earlier. You mentioned that it's a couple of different skills to be able to put together a talk. It's it's writing the abstract attract. It's it's putting together your notes. It's may be assembling code if it's a code heavy example or or talk in its public speaking. It's delivering the talk. Do you have any specific advice or tips and tricks in their initial delivery. Or you know like what do you do with your hands. How do you participate with the audience? How do you interact with the audience? Yeah so the actual delivery part. There's there's kind of two sides there's the planning structure side and then there's the actual mechanics of delivering the talk. So do you want to use your hands. You WanNa have a mike on your halvor schism Mike. You're holding. Are you ready for both. Because you never know. It's this is GonNa give you. I actually know speakers who bring their own. Mike's because they just WanNa know the equipment which having had a couple might screw up. It's not a bad idea in it. I'm forced to them loud enough that I think I just make up with it by the audience. I don't know that they appreciate that but August forever finger. So couple of things that came up One it was really fun was asking all the speakers. How do you prepare in those moments leading up to to get a stage? They're one of my favorites. Was Alex add things lessons CODA. He talked about going to the bathroom before the talk and he started beating beating on his chest and just yelling he won and he's like it doesn't matter what I want. Put his routine. And he's more than once walked Taylor stolen but maybe you can do that in a simpler way. I know other people listen to pump up music music or they I for me. I walk around the the conference. I'd maybe two or three conversations so I can warm up my voice or just warm up by talking motor whenever something that gets you kinda going Other people though they they sit in their room quietly until the moment they get on stage so I think a little a little bit of his finding works for you and phase on to actually get on phase ideal. You've practiced so much in in front of a mirror in with a recording of yourself a bit. It is no surprise. When you do get on stage you know your hands are GonNa do you know how many times you're hopefully going to say or not say Or a quieter Forget you're lying or whatever what I like to do is practice my opening line really strongly and then from there. I kind of have bullet points. I know I wanNA hit. I personally. Don't use Speaker Speaker notes by Nolanda speakers. Do and I think that again be really good. Helpful I find that if I happen to make it look at it too much and so I try to just kind of know my side slow but but I I think that One of the big things that came out in talking with all these speakers was that the majority of the ones who are very successful speakers do a lot out of it practice and so they make it look easy but it's because they spent a Lotta time prepping and they've been giving these talks in May have like a rotation five or six talks that they've given for years and they may have cleaned him up changed over time. But when you look in the audience really really good speaker but the truth is they've done this thirty forty fifty tops in so you give yourself a little bit of a break but also start thinking handle. I prepare myself to a point where there is no mystery when I get on stage. I know what's happening you've mentioned The CFP Land and the guy that you have Are there any other resources that you could point people to that may be looking to get into public speaking or speaking conferences etcetera. Yeah absolutely I have another page. And it's linked from the Guide and and it's the light earliest blog post wrote. It's basically just a big collection speaker. Resources the one. That always comes up. In conversation as VM. pursuer she think the face it last night she has been speaking for many years salting it. She's written books in cheesman compiling this huge open source list so if you look up. Vm Am Bresser. And I'm sure y'all can get Lincoln. The show notes. Her public speaking guide lists resources is top tier. It's even I think in mobile a couple of languages now so that's a really great one. There's also out see if I could find what it's called out delete. There's there's another another guy who has a whole website. It's got like twenty thirty pages that covers a lot of similar around. What our guide? PRECIP U. N. does It's been around while too so it's another great resource Definitely pulled a couple quotes for him in the guy too. So there's awesome awesome I'm sure that if if you can look that up we can allies including the Shannon's so we will do that to kind of go in another direction. One of the questions. We ask everyone that that we it comes on To give specific advice to people who are just getting started in the industry Maybe they're looking to like level APP or just break make into into things. What what kind of words of wisdom would you give them yet? I have been doing. These talks boot camps for several years. So this question comes up all the time that I meet with at least probably one or two bootcamp grads every week to just have they ask a copier report all of these things in the. I have several things that point to the first one is focused on meeting people because they best long-term investment in your. Oh you know yet you a lot of recent bootcamp Brad. Swallows College Guts. It's been older time applying to jobs in mass in just the spray and pray approach and you will eventually get a job when you do that. I don't mean to say that it doesn't work but it is not nearly as beneficial to getting the right job for you as his meeting people in knowing what is actually like were these places especially when you talk radio second third job so invested in relationships people in the second thing that I always tell new developers or is go deep in one language. I that's just my opinion. I know there's other people that say the other I think though that learning one language Java script or hi Connor Rubio. PHP doesn't really matter. It teaches you by going really deep knowing what that language is knowing several frameworks in it you can be really useful for for that first job so when somebody says well we'd like to hear you but you've done the how to tutorial different languages like what are you actually know you know in a real world situation you don't watch and and that's where we all started. You can focus in drill in one narrow thing it actually helps a lot and then the great thing is once you learn one language really really really. Well it's actually not that hard to transfer most of those skills. Such programming languages are not as people think. So okay How rebound if our listeners wanted to sort of follow you more a specific place on social media or what? What was that working working? I'm I'm on twitter at Carl L.. Hughes Karl spelled with a K.. So I also have the CFPB DOT com and there's newsletter. WanNa get calls for proposals. I won't helping out. New Developers. Education has always been one of my actions so I appreciate every contacted. I get to have excellent. Do you one last question. Do you have any upcoming speaking engagements that you can shut out yourself. Yeah I'll show myself. I actually toned it way down. Speaking the the last few months I had my wife had a baby fourteen weeks ago. So congratulations So anyway my next conference is in June. It's called developer first. It's sort of a tech leadership conference at the first year. They're doing it so it'll be interesting to see me and I said absolutely so. That's the next one. The developer first is what's called well. Thanks Carl really appreciate you coming on the show. Yeah thanks everybody that was Carl Hughes. Carl is a technology team builder software engineer and start up enthusiast he cto at the great network and helps technology speakers succeeded. CFP Land if you like this episode. Please he's light reight interview on I tunes fine show notes blog posted more at six figure dot com and be sure to follow some twitter at six figurative. This has been another episode of the six figure developer. podcast helping others reach your potential. I'm John Calloway. Arm Clayton Hunt Johnny Nash

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Chris Blackwell - Legendary Music Executive, Hotelier, Entrepreneur, founder of Island Records & Island Outpost Properties

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Feel Immensely lucky to call a friend. He's the founder of Island Records Island Alive, Films Blackwell on the island outpost family of Resorts Jamaica. He's credited with discovering Bob Marley and was as manager until his death in nineteen one and. And Chris, and island records put out many other musical treasures, including albums by cat, Stevens Traffic, Grace Jones Nick Drake Vonda among many many others Chris Eighty two years young. He's been around the world lived nine lives and it's one of the kindest funniest most lead back world changers you'll ever meet any is without a question one of the heavyweights of both the music and Boutique Hospitality Industries. He now dedicates most of his time to Jamaica and his island outpost properties throughout the island. Please enjoy my conversation with Chris Blackwell. Welcome to the PODCAST, Chris. Thanks for being on. Where are you today? I am in New York City where I have been on the lockdown basically for about ten weeks, it's been quite an experience. And you're normally spending the majority of your time in your room in the center of Jamaica, Punch Pont or in the ocean at your other property. Golden. I is the longest in in decades that you've been in the city. Yes definitely longest ever the coast. It's very different. You know I mean because. The very few cows on the street that very few people will key hardly shocks Restaurant Sandro do you recall another time in your lifetime where people were in a pandemic or locked in their houses? No, I don't remember that because them. You know when when polio came on the scene I had polio, but it was a minor. It wasn't like this. You know it wasn't something that you had to. Capitol to bump into somebody because catching, you're born in Jamaica nineteen, thirty seven, you've been around the world. You've lived nine lives. You're one of the kindest funniest most laid back world changers I've ever met. You're one of the few people that really were a mentor to myself, and my partner is without any expectation of return I, I wanted to start at the beginning now. I want you know your, you're you're rare-breed a white Jamaicans, I wanted I wanted to give us the ad that the origin story. I was actually born in London and came to Jamaica. When I was six months, I grew up the first five years old in Jamaica. and. Then when I was about six seven, I was sent to England to go to school was a Catholic school. My father's mother was a sort of religious maniac and shoe she ready. Know insisted that I needed to be brought up as a Catholic et CETERA. So my mother was originally Spanish Portuguese, Jews who came to Jamaica in the. Seventeen hundreds. I was sent to England when I was six and something to go to school, and I went to Catholic school, and it was miserable absolutely miserable. It was a bad idea to send their because I been very sick with asthma. Asthma? Badland. And the school was in the Thames Valley and just about the worst place you can be if you have asked is in A. Climate. So I was very sick, I was in. The hospital, a lot of time I was on breathing things, and then I went back to Jamaica. When I was about seven. The House. and. was there for about a year and then I came back to school in law school in England at a school which was. On. The seaside. On, the eastern coast of England. and was at that was fine. I wasn't sick in much healthier. And then after that, I was. I went to what was really. Kinda. Push School, which I got into appeal because my. Family had gone to that school and and donated a lot of money to the school. You know of fifty, sixty s for when. I managed to get into the school. I actually enjoyed enjoyed my time at school. They're they. They didn't enjoy me so much, but I enjoyed it. And, then I know that you decided not to attend university what led you to that decision. Well, the truth of it is because I didn't pass any exams, I couldn't have qualified for anything. So I didn't have I had three levels in two different attempts, which is various. The truth is that you know. I'm totally uneducated officially. My education has come from. Meeting people talking to people hanging out. While, mazing. You know I know that you move back to Jamaica and were in real estate managing juke boxes, and going to shows I know that's what led to the transition, your interest in in music. But tell US bring us back there a little bit. I was back in Jamaica, little earlier than that about the national at seventeen or something like that. I was sixteen seventeen. Again. From connection I managed to get I was offered the job. I was offered the job by governor of Jamaica, the person who was the British governor, the time my role was to meet. People who are coming to visit kings, house, and you make them look up to them, and maybe Simpson somebody who sort of met them at the entrance took around and introduce note was that that kind of a job by my job would be you know twelve. So take the government and his wife to. Judge, every Sunday and visit that kind of a job. It was something which was a great opportunity because it was the time when Jamaica was getting ready to become independent. So old the soda main politicians than people who are going to be running to make. would. Come to Kate's house all the time, and so I got term. Mason a no older people who was basically over the next five, ten years were going to be running, Jamaica. I. Enjoyed that a lot. And then the person who had often been the job he will send transferred to to be. In Cyprus, which was another British territory as it were. which was going through a lot of problems at the time. So he left and when he left I actually left the job to. And I got a job selling real estate and. In, Iran like that, and then I did that for a little bit than. United, severity salted going to all the sound system shows sound system dances. And tell tell the listeners would sound system is what a sound system show dance is. Well one was in those days. Speakers with me like. Two stories high almost united, just massive because the volume they would be able to come out just unbelievable. You could hear you have five miles away. It was really really exciting. The music was initially played at that time. Most of it was American. Be Music. It was mostly from New Orleans from fats, domino, people like that. I used to go to other shows. And I went to this this, you know where where people would just. Sing a song, etc. that kind of thing I was amazed, there was a couple of guys sale who I thought like these guys are really good singers that should make meet them at. CPAC. Make a record with one thing, and this is before you. You'd never made a record before this. Just popped in your head, just popped in my head this. So after the show is that went backstage the the guy who I really focused on was the guy who had voice very similar to a cynical was very. Singa at that time blackouts. Great. Great Singer. So I spoke to him about maybe I, love to do recommend as you Britain any songs or anything. The Guy said, well, you know he's writing a song etc, and then another guy came up and said, well, what about me and then another guy said came up and said what about me? So I found myself A to. Make three records with three different guys, which is what I did and the first one I put outs went to number one. In Jamaica in Jamaica? And then second one I put out went to number one. And then the record I put up went to number one and they will stay. Right in the top ten, in fact, six songs were in the top ten because it was the three songs, the sides, and the besides would six songs in the top ten. which is. The highest ever achieved in the music business was actually put up. I just love the whole process that that was just it for me I. Just I just loved. After is exciting in working in the studio web cumulative people, and then you know then going out and then hustling around and trying to get them into juke boxes of Montana managed three juke boxes in Jamaica. I made a deal with somebody who had the juke boxes that I would sort of manage them for him than take new music etcetera, etcetera. That was an incredibly experienced because you go around the different Baas and clubs and things all around to make up way in the country of Cosa Jukebox was everything in those states, episodes that that is it because that that broke the music to the box with the cloud. Again, I learned a lot from that that I mean I really enjoyed it was it was really a trip you derive sometimes you know and you. You arrived and going to the Little Bob in a minute on five minutes. BOB was packed. You could not move into whether it was those one particular fishing village I. Remember was like that everybody was everybody was virtually almost naked. They will efficient than the hope Bob was absolutely. act. And I took out one of the songs which had been on the jukebox noticed hadn't been played much. So good I take that out and replace it by something else as I took it up. Everybody was like almost like a riots don't take that out put that back of it was really fun was like it was just a soda typically strange unusual way life. Most people never seen anybody of my complexion. You know in areas that I was because it was just was just the roots Fisher nor people working in the country in the. sugar estate. So things like that. And that's really what I stopped. And what led to your thinking around taking these records to the UK? We'll tell you what bedrooms because after. I released my records and they became successful. The sound system is. They started producing records to before they had mainly just imported records, cases. I would go you know come up to New York by the records and come back and sell it to the sound system guys. soundsystem guys decided, they'd stop producing records. and. Their records with great. You know my record said become a little smooth, another little kind of polished. And their records were role an exciting. And stimulating you know and I thought to myself. Well, you something these guys. Their records. Really really great. My records at that time. The ones I'd made was selling in England, but they went selling so well in Jamaica. So. I went to see over sound system is my said literal and give me your. In England I'm going to go to England base myself there. Give me a recordings in England and our re release employer in England and pretty much all of them gave me the rights to mock their records in England. and. So that's really how I saw in England. Your first hit was millie small my boy lollipop. Correct. Yes, that's my bet I chop top of jots hit. In the UK now you had your top of the chart I record. You ever put out in Jamaica I three, but this is this is a much bigger market and as I understand it, there were Jamaican communities on the outskirts of. London on the outskirts of these major cities. This was this was a major sort of reggae crossover, correct? Yes. I would say on a slate that's pretty much the first record I Scott Record really which became a big hit which and Scott became the music, the name of the music initially before before reggae. Born Reagan became born. In the mid sixties I, think this was in the early sixties and so Scott was really the the rhythm, the you know, and those the records such, what selling to the Jamaicans who lived in England? And it became huge. So my my mind when I, say huge I, mean on a tiny basis, but it was. It was huge amid was busy all the time because I was driving around in a little mini cooper. Visiting over the record stills. And selling them record. Then sometimes, you know I traveled to Gristle traveled to Birmingham all something, but most of the time it was really all around number. And again, it was something that I really love doing because it was something that was growing wasn't something that. was taking off initially because the only people that initially were buying records Jamaicans living in England. From bent at South. The joke seep into sort of people who went to clubs, and after a bit, it starts to pick up a kind of following that it didn't happen quickly. kind of slowly steadily. We'll be back with more of the hustle after the break. Do. You know what your online businesses worth. Quite light is brokerage that's passionate about helping entrepreneurs scale and sell their online businesses for six seven or even eight figures. 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TIMES, all this under island records, these these artists that you're putting out with these individual records before you start at island. No I sought I started island with. With with this was three guys, tell you about what? So at the top? And then around the same time, like within those those few years you I went out to, Goldeneye. Correct. Goldeneye? Yes. I've been to go tonight because I knew Ian Fleming and my mother's house was very close to with Fleming's housewives. That's where I met him. There was also very famous. British. Sort of hero in the of the entertainment business. A Producer director, and that is no cowed. You know I knew not allowed in the funding and they both lived fairly close to win. My Mother's house was on the North, coast, of Jamaica. So I got to know them at a time. You ended up thinking about reggae music in the mind frame of what was being marketed as rock and roll music. Initially, it was with Jimmy cliff correct. That was the first reggae artists that you'd thought. You could run a route that was similar to what you're seeing the rock and roll marketing production and promotion. Yes. I. Really felt that to me. Jimmy festively was really strong. Live e could move really well, and songs were really good and he was and still is he's still around, you know he's really. Incredible talent. Jimmy. Jimmy Cliff. Also, you're not actually is the person. Who introduced Bob to the person who I the coded about money? So in a way, Jimmy Cliff. So discovered vote mark. Incredible. It was my understanding. That you worked with him, but it didn't really work out and you didn't get to run the route that you wanted to bring us back there. Tell us a little bit about this transition time because this is right around the time that you met. Bob Marley. I, really believe Jimmy Cliff. But we just weren't getting success story whatever the reason I guess songs quite rights or whatever. Even. Though he was building with following with his life live show because Jimmy Cliff Oh always had a very good sense of finding musicians and he would come come back one week in. Sort of new band together and. Then, you'd have them the band. Really. Really Great. But we were never able to get a hit with Jim. I had told him when he had come to talk to me about the fact that he'd been offered by OSCE a victim been offered to sign with them, and I said Oh Jimmy, you shouldn't sign rhythm because you know what getting A. So he decided to stay with me and not to sign to osceola victim within about. Ten days of that. Somebody told me and said, would you like to make up Nali in the wailers because they are in England and this stranded because they'd been in? Stockholm. Doing some music for film, that F. has sent them back to London than they had no options back to Kingston. So could you meet with them and see if this could do some deal with them to get them? You know. So they can get back to Kingston. So what? So that's how I met the. Already, doing films in Sweden, for instance. So they had some international recognition. Why didn't they have a manager? Why didn't they have a a partner like you? The manager was really bad. They had at the moment at that moment. He was really based in America. He was American. Guy. He wasn't really into the Jamaican music. He'd gone to Jamaica and he'd liked it. US main focus was American music, and the his main artists was his name was Johnny Nash and he managed John Nash. You really was having a career of his own. The guy wasn't really paying too much attention to end the wins. I, recall you telling me this and I couldn't believe it in this meeting. Was this where you gave them the money to go on record an album that was also partly what they use for the airfare. Bring us back to the room. When they arrived. They walked in like God's. Walk in like. Three. Guys who was stranded. In London no way to get back home. They walked they worked in, they had such charisma. And such a presence, all three of them, Peter, Tosh, bunny way in both modern three of them. I just sat with them than chatted to them and. Ask them what they were trying to do what they were aiming for when. They will basically aiming trying to get You're not some Jamaican music on American. Black, radio and. And I tell them I didn't really think that that would happen right now. I didn't think I didn't think that would work right now because I didn't think that making music with something at that time was going to be appeal to black American. Radio. So, they said what you think and I said well. I think you should be like a black. Rock Act. Bob Kind of picked it up a bit Piton Bunny. Didn't feel the same way they felt they should be going on the way they would do, and they didn't know about changing into being a rock and roll act and stuff like that. I asked him how much? Would it cost him to do now? And they told me, they send five thousand ONS. Four thousand. Thousand, pounds decided that the best way to try and work with them because they'd been given a very hard time. Because they put a team together. They made a lot of their own recordings, the recordings with great those early recordings above me a great great recordings. But. They never got the chance because you know the it, it was kind of a little bit of a corrupt system because you know the the big produces. The sound system guys not. They, they had kind of control over the DJ's and etc and So. It was very hard for these guys to get across and how they went back. The Jamaica. And then I went back to Jamaica maybe three months later. Rather, hoping that I was Gonna ask something. But what what did you? Where did you place the ads that there would be music for you to listen to or the these guys would be in business with you at all? I I just felt it. You Know I. Felt I felt. The need, but I said, you know what I mean, and a couple of them weren't fact keen on the idea. I think Bob was ready to try and move away from what they were doing in, China. Give it more of a rock sensibility. Seem. You're back in Jamaica. You're going over to the studio and you hear this music for the first time. What was what was the first song heard on this album? The first one I was catching fire. I liked it a lot. It's before we put the guitar before I'd added any of the players on it because what it was, it was still very much a Jamaican recording and then I took Bob to London. To do some more work on the album, just to to make the album bit more roguish I had the towers to at met in muscle shoals, and he was in England and them I, put him on the record played. He played a brilliant. Opening Guitar Soda For the First Song on the album which was cold down humbly jungle. In England, we really made the album moved into having kind of rock element to it, but the record was made in Jamaica. Was Great Brecca to it was a great record Jamaican record. It just didn't have the. Guetta elements that were added. For when we went over to Ayman. You're essentially giving similar advice to what could be heard. I. Imagine in the Ninety S or two thousand, which is like you're not GonNa win on the radio. You're GonNa win on college radio. You'RE GONNA. Win on live touring the experiences. What's GonNa win you lifelong fans is that fair to extrapolate that as your mindset at this time? Yes. Well, definitely was the focus would be on on live gigs because they had such a strong image, the three of them you know they were kind of. For some people, they were scary as hell. they would just something different as a band that you'd never see you know they. Arrested you know and they will wild. But then musicianship was fantastic that I record can't you file when I heard it. I when it was finished I've I was so excited about it and that's what my self destructed is going to sell a million copies. You say, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. REGGAE NO REGGAE albums episode more than five thousand copies said by I. Just think he's going to sell it an incumbent. So. I, was I was actually on the road traffic in American I rang back to England. And I said Hausa Day and they said we showed about three thousand. Three thousand, that's all you. So said, let's that's pretty good for radio. And I was so upset. Earlier and that this has been proven, right? Well, eventually ended up the catcher fines sola copies eventually. But it just as. It opened go at record opened the door. Definitely. You also got to work with you to tell us a little bit how you got exposed to you too and how and how it was different in the way that you manage them as artists. I sold them for the first time after a concert that bug noni was doing in London and somebody had set up for you to play a little club in south, London not far from where about was doing his concept Crystal Palace in London. How big was this? Bob Show. A big one. It was actually his last ended up being his last show in them in England for he passed. It was in I. Think it was in, nineteen. Eighty. So often the show I went to this. Little. Club. Tiny. Little cloud. And there were about fifteen people there in in the club which you know about five or six a people with me and an about five or six people with the band and about five or six hangs zone who they out. So it wasn't. It wasn't a propagate. Setup Gay. It was just something with they were going to play and I would I would meet in meeting them all seeing them, play it, Cetera. When I saw them, I. Thought I. Thought they were fantastic at thought. The aura was fantastic, and that presence was fantastic. There was just something about them, which I just knew that they were going to make it. I didn't really feel the music initially because it was much more. You know I'm in. Jamaica is all about heavy bass and heavy drums and things like that. And then music was much more high frequency if you're not mean like it Utah and and so. I, didn't. Feel it personally, but I absolutely felt them and also. There was a guy who was the manager was really impressive. And you know back in those days, most most manages not all by any means most of the manages would be. The, Palette one of the musicians who couldn't play an instrument and so he ended up being helping. Get them. Bookings etc etc.. But in the case of you to. Know, Sunday. He was dressed in a suit union with a tie on and all that sort of thing, medical negoti take a serious separations and so it was a mixture of their presence. and which I believed in completely with the fact that I felt, they had somebody there who is really serious and really knew what he was doing and be able to manage the I. Tell the people that records that really wanted to sign them, signing them, but I wanted either records to be supportive of them. Fully. Supportive of them and take the leadership. And support the leadership instantly. Give them a base to do what they want to do. That was based on the fact that. I believed in the band themselves and in the manager they had. So many cases the record business. People medal around on necessarily metal around? Yeah. She you know you're signing somebody. They know during that said life. Let them find their way rather than trying point Jim this direction or that direction when. The. Not, a musician or Anything else to something they'd like to hear. So there'd be a lot of situations I would say over the years, the record business, a lot of artists. Found themselves in a difficult position where they they they went. To do what they were doing, what they were creating. concept's never really the case because we were independent, we were tiny independent. Didn't have the answer to a board of directors. So anybody, we could just do what we believed in. We were different kind of company reading. Of, the hustle will be right back after this short break. I find it. So fascinating how many artists loved working with you? Because you guys were hands off with them in that way where you saw yourself, not as like you know the six member of the band, you saw yourself as this empowering function that would clear the runway for them to focus on their creativity in their craft in the art that they. were making without. It's just an interesting line to walk that. It seems the second nature to you. Yeah. It's true. When different than that? For God, because wasn't a cooperation wasn't. into the kind of a private company that was the difference. If I had a job, I couldn't signed, but me as I signed molly. To, give him some money and go make a record I. couldn't they say you crazy as it happened. Everybody around you. Crazy neck. That money are not going to see him again. I. Said, well, I don't think I believe in the guy. It's very, very different. I mean, it's it's. It's. It's a luxury. A huge luxury debate will follow your own instincts and everything in a structured company. It's not often that you're able to do that. I want to talk about the whole journey. Not just you know the music as you were entering your fourth decade as all types of music executive, you started to transition into place making you were still running island, and you're designing your first resorts and hotels in properties. Correct that sort of came by overtime. You know there was. A place in Jamaica which I used to go to his child. Came on the market at Coastal Ray. Hill. It's. It's. It's house three, thousand feet up. In the mountains behind Kingston I bought that when I bought it, you didn't buy with the idea of that I was going to make a home out of it. I bought it with the idea of you know developing. It's a kind of a place. People can gun visits into. You can say I've lounge show. You. Vote, sort of. Resort. Hotel. Next. One after that was good night initially built by Ian Fleming. Who wrote all of the James Bond books in all of the James Bond for written there. I that I bought that really because my mother had asked Smith if I could. Buy At full her because it did come on the market. And she had been looking after that for the in Fleming some this is off the implemented died. She asked me if I could buy because you know she loves the house and she's been swimming all time. I told the okay, I would do that. But. I didn't actually really have the cash to do it at the time. So. I bought nine told him. You know this displace in the near. Curious. You know which is really nice. Place. Where Will James Mon Books were written and that's of beautiful spot and everything. I, recommend you buy the House that. Said you what you think and I said I. Think. It's a great thing based by by. So he said okay. So. Cold. The agent was to house to set. Okay. Baba's going to bite and they went through all the documentation and everything in it. Takes Jamaican six months old. So something like that. Happen in six months time. It's everything was ready to sign them. O'Brien said really action never got around to go see it yet feels need to save before you've been dissatisfied so well. Yeah. You should go see it. So he went to see it when he saw t send you know it's not really my thing to rush from. It's not my my kind of. Place. So I can I get out of it and buying which time my finances had recovered. SO THAT'S I. The. Before the art deco renaissance of Miami Beach, you know in the eighties nineties the Marlon in tides. Tell us a bit about that chapter. We had signed the go singer from the COBWEBS and she was going to video in in Miami. So. Eventually with them and I went driving around an every single building. On South Beach, every single building was for sale. What's going on? Get it. Everything was run down and there was a lot of you know drug running and stuff like that. Going on South Beach was considered very dangerous at that time Miami was just. You know a bit of a mess except that it had all this some you know on Deco buildings there, and I thought the is incredible. Look look at the beach beaches incredible company that nobody. So. When I went to see this, go I met somebody there who was so somebody who was to me was a goddess says it will add name was Barbara who the Nikkei. I by then picked on a couple of ideas, different locations that I'd like to buy I spoke to Barbara, who naked let's set up. I would love you to do something a little different than what you normally been dating, which is close at Levy to design the Marlon Patel this one place, which is all broken down to say crack. Attic. House down it was mess them. So, she did the design for the modern. And the Marlon. became the the sort of attell got a lot of press. And that soon, attracted. Of, the, Saudi. And he will come and stay at the mall trade is and from that to screw. Around what year did you make the transition to place making back in Jamaica and investing this level of hospitality infrastructure into your your Jamaica properties? It was the mid nineties when basically. Things would do really well there, and then I decided I really really wants to come back individually. That's how that happened. The night sold I sold a tell. Had the couple of tells in in the Bahamas one, Code Pink Sands, another coach. Compass. Point. Bill to strobe. Radio success and then southwest night. I encourage any listener to you know Google, island outposts and take a look at how Chris designed spaces and how he and his partner. Rico think about you know barefoot hospitality in a really making these places feel like you're over at a friend's house more. So than at like a fancy hotel. Tell us about it. Was it conscious with a strategy where you're like, you know what I see this, and this is clearly a great way to get into the people. I. Love to come springtime in the spaces I care about or this sort of happen as a natural progression from your from your previous career I, just did it as I like. What I feel, you know what I feel people would like. Because I. Am a lot of experience. Traveling. Around tells. Because I, went I love to go on the road for the. Point you know and I I love that I remember one day menu almonds, etiquette was mckerrow. Atlantic records and doing all the time. On. The road the band's used to you got a record company is supposed running. and. I said well I, I like to go on the road with the band because I like to. See will tap may get a feel of what's happening and how they're doing and. The experience of traveling. In different places is the greatest thing, ready menu You just learned from that once you. Once you open to learn, you'll have all the genesis when you're traveling. You from Detroit to Chicago and the Chicago to. MEMPHIS all over the place places that. I. Loved it. I absolutely loved Ola handle the time. So things. Things just didn't work you. So things which were. A lot of money was spent in. The was like sort of a waste of time. They hadn't a feel in the head. No Wolf. You know that kind of thing I guess with all that experience I just loved that as what? What people really need when traveling. It's just simplicity Mike. What? What is simplicity you? To be comfortable and space, you know I mean. I never liked big hotels about. Liked to know lo lot of car does. So let kind of thing, I, I didn't think that was the have a nice feel to it so. I've always liked big which a more personal where you are. Now this is you'll space. Comfortably. Your space and now you you invest all of your energy in time. Really Jamaica. I'm curious. What do you think it is about Jamaica in particular? I grew up as a child and I was sick. So I, was really looked after by Innis pretty much all the time as a child I was on my own I don't remember any birthday parties or. Christmas. Policies Whole Ponti Parties. Things like that because. I. Was I was I. was just not that well. All the time so. I grew up really big nuts looked after by Jamaicans. So that was really my route I kept them a great deal because they were really looking to me and said. What I really wanted to trying to do is to improve the lives of the people. That, you know method come in touch with up to know that will. What motivates your lifestyle now like what are the things that bring you the most joy? If it's something that that you've set up, you've got while you're working on and it's working. Let's joy. You know. Enough that. Always trying to do something and to do it well, and to have at something, which has a. Lasting time, not something which is gonNa bake flashing the pen. And also something which feel can lost in and grow. Always a long term thinking. You had a great quote back in the record business. In the career business I'm in the artist's business with records being milestone. So I'm not in the record business per se. What are some of the things that you think we should keep in mind one planning for the long term and building things that are intentional. Clearly, what brings you pleasure. What are some of the other things fm any that that you'd like to see us carry forward. I think. Giving people opportunity if you are in a position that you can help somebody in any way or have an idea. Something, you know struggling with something an idea. What to do? ADS believes that one should. Elevate things all the time. I just really wanted to thank you for being on the podcast in giving us a bit of your time and for me personally just for the inspiration, and you're the helping hand for for the years, and again you know we we. We do really appreciate you coming on. We'll thank you. Thank you very much. It's been great. Meteo? Honestly. Really Good I. Love with your drink then leverage. Thank you, Chris. Thank you for listening. This has been the art of the hassle. See next time. For more podcast from iheartradio visit, the iheartradio APP, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Do. 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