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Achieving success in law while building big family. Ep 69
Hi, this is Laura Vander Cam. I'm a mother of four an author journalist and speaker, and this is Sarah Hart Unger. I'm a mother of three practising physician and blogger on the side, we are two working parents who love our careers and our families. Welcome to best of both worlds here. We talk about how real women manage work family and time for fun from figuring out childcare to mapping out long term career goals. We want you to get the most out of life. Welcome to best of both worlds. This is Laura this episode sixty nine which is first airing in late November. We'll be talking with our guest. Kathleen burns about making partner at a major law firm while raising a whole slew of small children. So looking forward to all we're going to learn from that, but lots of stuff going on in our lives big stuff going on and Sarah's life as that. She is moving. Us about that. Well, we're not going that far. So this isn't one of those like exciting. Horizon changing moves across the ocean or something like that. So my husband has decided to pursue an opportunity in a different health system, which happens to be the health system where I work, and he will not be at the same hospital where I am. But the location is such that they are both approximately thirty minutes north of where we currently live. And therefore, it makes a lot more sense for us to live up there rather than Don here so up there is still quite south. We're thinking about the Fort Lauderdale suburb type of areas, we're not even sure where exactly at this juncture. But we are going to be moving away for Miami Beach. Which is it's really bittersweet. I mean, you know, there are some upsides we will both have less commute. Well, he will actually probably have more commute because it's commute was like five hundred minutes have significantly less commute. We will have. More house for the money because it's much cheaper real estate market. The communities are bit less congested away on though, I loved the walkability of where we currently are on the downside. You know, we won't have family within a stone's throw like we currently do. So that's going to be really sad. Currently we could run into his aunt on a morning run. I see his dad walking the dog in the morning, and it'll be really sad to lose that and being able to walk to family gatherings. And I'm also very sad to lose the school. The preschool were animal and Cameron were from ages like two to five Genevieve will get to experience that place, and it was really wonderful. So yeah, just a lot. Our current plan is that instead of listing our house while we're still living in it. So that we'd have the pressure of having to get out frequently. We are a yes, there is background noise. Hold on a second. I'm like, you're she's like you could hear that. Okay. Where should I start from it? So why don't you just say? Just they like, lots of logistics. Okay. We'll have to. So whoever is splicing this displace this in with my ups and downs. Make it sound as smooth as you can. Thank you. So lots of logistics. We are planning on moving in with my inlaws for a few months. Probably we're like six months until the end of the school year. So our kids can finish school here. And that way, we don't have to live in our house while we're trying to sell it. So just a lot of unknowns. That that is the worst is living in the house while you're trying to sell it. I mean, obviously, you have to some situations most situations probably, but trying to keep it clean trying to like, you know, make it be like, you're not there. Exactly having to get out of it like potentially like in the middle of Genevieve's nap. Okay. We have to vacate like, so I think this will be much better. We're very appreciative that this isn't an option for us suggestion. I'm pretty good market. And I'm like you said it's a small contained area. Like if somebody wants to live in that area. There's only so many houses they can get. So if you're on the market, I think, you're you're you're well placed right? I guess it depends on listening relocate to Miami Beach. Let me tell you. My house is the best house. You can Email me for DS. Yeah. Exactly now, that's a well. It's moving moving hard. It'll be nice to have more space. I know that something you've been in a concerned about in terms of the kids sharing rooms not that that's about thing. But yeah it worked out. Okay. But it's such a steep. Change in cost per square foot that we feel like it's probably worth just getting a room. So Johnny can have a room and potentially even an office to allow for a little bit more focused work for my husband or me during. Times of when all three kids are home. Yeah. Well, but just I mean, I I've been thinking about your schedule and in terms of when you you're losing the pumping, and you're gaining back half an hour on the commute like life was just going to have this huge chunk of margin in it. But it doesn't doesn't have. Now. It's it's kind of exciting to think about where the Senate is our day will be will be going. That's that. That's a nice way of thinking about it. What we will find out. We'll update everyone. I'll have to do some some pre and post time tracking. Not sounds great. Well, I think we're we're ready to transition to our guest. We're very excited to have. Kathleen burns our guest today. Kathleen is a partner at Nixon Peabody, which is a law firm. She is also the mom of four. So a lot going on in her life. So Kathleen, thanks for being on. Did you introduce yourself to our listeners yet? Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here. Chatting with you guys though yet. You mentioned I in the momma for a Mike kids are seven five three one a have three boys in a girl. My daughter is the three year old, and I am a lawyer Nixon Peabody. So we are a global one hundred far we have sixteen offices all over the US and abroad. I am based in the Boston office, which is our firms largest office. And I am a partner in the complex commercial disputes group, which means that I am a litigator. So I spend a lot of my time working with clients who are involved in lawsuits in state and federal court related to their businesses. And I also spend a lot of my time with clients who do not want to get involved in lawsuits counseling them about disputes or challenges that they might have with release spec to their business or any government investigations and work with them. So that they do not end up in the courtroom. Well, I am absolutely impressed with all of that. Particularly. The fact that you've managed to do all this while having so many children in such short time. So I mean, I'm sure a read our listeners are curious as well. So a lot of our questions are going to to center around that. Let's just pause. We have twenty months to seven years. So that was for children within a six year timeframe five and a half year. Yeah. Six and a half. I think at my oldest was six five and when my youngest was born. Yeah. Five and a half when my youngest now. Yeah. And you grew up at a big family yourself. Right. I did. Yeah. So I'm the oldest of six kids. And it's funny. I always knew that I wanted to be to have a big family. I loved being part of a big family, you know, for the most part. But it's funny. I thought that as the oldest of six kind of thought of myself as like a second mom, I thought I did such a great job taking care of my siblings in helping my mom out. And it's funny that now a realized a totally overestimated how much did help my mom because I think, you know, it's only when you become apparent you realize how much work it is to be a parent saving. Now. I have a real appreciation for everything that by bomb dead while we were growing up. But even you know, still I just I love being part of a big family. I love that chaos unit. Something that that makes me happy. So I'm frill that I've been able to have these four kids in that. I've been able to keep working while I've been doing you. And did you know you always wanted to be a lawyer or as well or did that develop later I did? I don't know that I knew exactly what kind of law wanted to practice or what? Specifically I wanted to do. But there's a lot of lawyers in my family. My grandfather was a lawyer. He was sort of your classic small town lawyer in a little town in New York. Everybody knew everybody really respected him. I used to go into his office with him might uncles are lawyers. So that was something I was always interested in and so everybody, I knew in college said, well, you should try it before you actually go to law school. So I decided to work as a paralegal when I graduated from college it did that for a year. And I said, Yep. This is this is what I wanna do. Despite all the people who worked with who told me, are, you sure you really want to be alive. You want to think about something else? But I did that for a year, and I really liked it. So I went on to law school after that. Why do you think that is why do you think people were really telling you think hard about this because we've had questions about this in the past for people who are considering going to law school? And I know a lot of people are are wearing why do you think that is? Well, I think you know, I think a lot of it is loans. I think that a lot of people take out huge amounts of money to go to law school. And the question is how long does that take him? How long is that gonna take to pay those loans back, but I think it's also just this perception that people have of the profession as being one where you have to work tons and tons of hours and part of that I think is that traditionally lawyers Bill by the hour. And so the more allergy Bill the more money, they make traditionally, and I think that is really changing companies are doing a lot of different billing models a lot of different arrangements. Besides that billing model the hourly billing, but I think that is something that really discourages some people from going to law school or or becoming lawyer because they just picture those long hours, which can be true in some cases, but not necessarily in all. Cases in. Did you go straight to your firm out of law school, or did you did you move around? I did know I am a lifer. I have been here. I get an internship Nixon Peabody when I was in law school. So most law firms will take on a big class of summer associates. They call them their second year after law school. And then at the end of that summer, they decide to make offers to those summer associates to become full-time associates. So that's what I did. I've been here graduated law school in two thousand seven and I've been here since then on that's really really cool. But you know, I know I know that your firm has has definitely been been working on electing more more women partners. But I'm guessing when you started there there were probably fewer than there are now in in maybe not as many examples as one might might want to see an particularly women with lots of children. And so I'm curious did you did you wonder whether it would be. Hospitable to to make partner. If this was something that's gonna be really difficult. Like, how did you view that? When you're first starting out. I did I definitely wondered if this was something that would be possible. And we do have a great number. There are some really great women partners. At this firm a bunch of them have small children. There's a lot of male partners here who have small children. And of course, a lot of people who remember what it was like to have small children. But that's definitely something that I thought about a lot especially as I started having kids of my own. And you know, I wondered what is the best path for me. So one of the things I think our firm does a great job. With is identifying you know, the circumstances or the environment that each attorney will will succeed in in. So there's a lot of different pass not necessarily, you know, you've got to work for X number of years in then you either become a partner or you leave right? We have a lot of different pass or attorneys today successful. And there was a time. Time when I had, you know, probably two kids in life was getting pretty crazy that I wondered is my path gonna be one towards partnership or is my path going to be one that's on a different track. And there are a lot of people here who have some really interesting arrangements into some really interesting work. And I thought maybe that was something I might be better suited to. But you know, what the more I thought about it. I thought I can do this. I can do with these partners are doing maybe with just fewer clients. And so I talked with my mentors, and I talked with the leadership here, and they were really really supportive. So I was able to work on a part time schedule with flextime schedule. And you know, it's it's been possible on I think it's been a really successful arrangement. So you were able to be part time while still remaining on the partnership track. Yes. Yep. Is that unusual from from the is that actually something that's happening more. You know, I think it's happening more I have some friends at other. Firms who have done a similar thing. But it's definitely the reaction that I get is yours as well. I didn't know that that was an option in. Honestly, I don't know if I really knew if it was an option starting out. It was something that I had to ask about in. There are other people at our firm who have done it. It's not just made. There's other people that have had part time arrangements who have made partner while on that part time track. So other people have definitely done it and been successful in a variety of models. But I do think it's something that people are doing more and more. But I also hear that surprise from others at other firms that that is something that our firm has been really amenable to because I think people are curious about the practicalities of it. Because one of the things in any service firm that making partner is about showing that you can bring in clients and bring in a certain book of business that that will sustain the firm. And I said, I imagine people are like will how are you making those numbers if you're not? Not you know billing the full quantity of time. So so how does that practically work is there a different level of what you need to bring in. Or is there a sort of different expectation if you're on a part time trying just how how does that work? Yes. So I am currently at seventy five percent schedule. So what that means is that I my requirements rank goals for how many hours I Bill and how much business I'm bringing in or or seventy five percent of your typical fulltime partner, and my compensation is then seventy percent of that fulltime compensation. So as as a practical matter, really, it means that I just take on fewer cases, it's not something that's easily quantifiable by, you know, number of hours in the office or days of the week that I work, although there's certain there's certain parameters that I try to work around. But as a practical matter just needs work on fewer cases in that. I might go. Goals for bringing in business are are slightly reduced than those of somebody. Who's working fulltime makes sense from my perspective since I do something sort of similar medicine. But I'm very curious. How you do? I mean, I think our listening to be interested in the details of lakes of what does that mean? Do you take one full day off do you plan on leaving early with law? I would expect it's not something that's all that easily compartmentalize Ables on very curious about how you can protect yourself from bleeding. You know, seventy to eighty to ninety two some working fulltime or more again. Yeah, it's funny that you say that I think when I first came back from my first maternity leave. I had this view that my life, and my work would be very compartmentalized. And I tried a number of different schedules. Like come in early at leave early that I could spend time with my son in the afternoons. I was off on Fridays. I sort of tried a number of different more, rigid schedules. And I think part. That was due to the fact that I was I was junior. I was a fourth year associate at that point in time. So I had a little bit less control over my schedule. And now, I think it's really a lot more fluid. So I'll give you an example of a typical week for you know, to the extent that any week is typical. But what I'll do is. I will try to go in super early on Monday morning and come home, you know, in time for dinner in bedtime in bad time at all of that. I will work generally a full long day on Tuesday. This is in idea that my friend Kelly gave me to really load up on a really long day at the beginning of the week that I can just kind of power through all of my work that requires you know, big chunks of concentration and focus. So I'll take a really long day on Tuesday Wednesday. I'll try to work from home, and I will try to save tasks that are can be done in smaller time periods. So it's responding to emails getting smaller things done. So I can also participate in dropping off my kids in picking up the kids getting them off the bus. Things like that. And then I'll be in the office again for a full day generally a long day on Thursday where it kind of wrap everything up, and then I try to be home in primarily with the kids on Friday. So of course, it never really works out. Exactly like that, you know, things lead into one another. But in a perfect in in a typical week, that's sort of what it looks like I love that. I love that you've kind of overtime honed, basic, and the template that will help you not be tempted to work eighty hours. Then also keep that fluidity in case, you know, on Tuesday, you end up having something that you really wanna go with one of your kids than you. Swap at her etcetera that sounds that sounds fantastic. Exactly. Also, dr. There are a lot of trial and error. Yeah. We always talk about thinking in terms of one hundred sixty eight hours, not twenty four right? You have to really long days can be helpful for that. Because then you have three more reasonable days. Right, right. You're not even being off. And I also try to take you know, sort of a weekly view. And also, a monthly view of you know, sometimes I have a really busy month this year. Unfortunately, it was July, and I had a lot of depositions and just really busy intensive work going on. And I knew that that was time limited. I knew that I had a deadline in case that was going to come to a close at the end of July. So I knew that that was time limited and then in August. My schedule got really light. And I was able to spend a lot more time at home as able to do some work from home days early in the afternoon spent some time at the pool at the beach. So I look at it in terms of the week. But I also try to look at it in terms of the month end just sort of, you know, a adjust the pieces where they need to be adjusted. Do you track your time to? So that you can cause I'm impressed able to say, okay. July was heavier in or is it just you just kind of remember? Oh, yeah. No. So I track my time you guys, I think Laura would be impressed instead of thirty minutes. Increments. Lawyers. We do six minutes increments in. So we Bill our time in six minute increments. So if I spent point two hours working on something for client record that point to. So I'm always very aware of the number of hours that I'm working in a week, and you sort of track your personal time outside of that. Are you like tracking fatigue? Not insist minute increments. I bet. Increments. I think that would be released sad to say how many six minutes, I spend picking up doing other mindless. Thanks, but yeah, I try to that's generally more by feel. I think NFL idea for sure I have an idea of, you know, my my buckets of time I like to think of them as an, you know, if I'm low on spending time with my older kids, or by younger kids are low on time around the house try to compensate for that certainly not a one for one. But you know, kind of a rough Justice sort of white, well, let's talk about your support system. Because you're you're husband also is also working until you gotta to career family with the four kids. What what sort of support system makes us work on the homefront? Yes. A we have an amazing nanny she was with us starting win. I think way had our second child, and then she actually decided to take a break in wanted to work a little bit less. So we actually got an opaque for two. Years around the time that my fourth child was born. So that was a lot of extra support that we had at that. Really busy time. And now we have our same nanny she's back again, we have her. She's excellent. And my husband, and I we really trade off, you know, we are rarely both at home on any given evening during the week. We try to look at our schedules in advance and say, okay, we'll I've got these really busy things going on this day. This day is lighter able to get home. And so he's really sort of tried to trade off. And you know, sometimes that works great in. Sometimes it doesn't and we both have to travel or we both have a big meeting on any given day. And then we rely on our nanny who's amazing as well as our extended family, our neighbors. We have a whole crew of people that we carpool with in that we share driving responsibilities with my in laws about an hour away. So they'll jump in sometimes when be both have to travel, and you know, we kind piece it together. I'm kind of curious from the perspective of of I guess with your oldest big seven. Maybe you're not quite in the thick of the after school activities so much wouldn't one of the challenges. We've had is like three people going in different directions in in the hours between say three thirty and six have have you had any of that are curious how you think you'll wino- paneling that? Oh my gosh. Yes. I spend so much time on family, logistics. I sometimes feel like it's that riddle with the box in the boat and the grain going across the river that we've got to make all those pieces work. And like you said, yeah, my oldest is seven. So we don't have a ton of activities, but we do have kids at multiple different schools doing multiple different things. So right now, we're able to cover with a lot of car pooling and may being home generally two days a week so between my nanny, and I we can kind of divide and conquer. But I do think that might require some additional schedule modifications maybe in the future when? They get a little bit older. There's always over. We've been quite tried that you hope maybe one of the two they wait a couple of years. I'm not kidding. Some of them. I patiently families told me that that is not in completely out of the out. There solution for your thirteen fourteen set out of the Kathleen, I mean, your one thing that we've heard from other people in professional service. Trump is the idea of timing your children in in your career journey on an number of people who have to lead through a certain hoop for for their work. Whether it's, you know, making partner, we're getting tenure all that decided to start their families after they have been through the obviously you from what I recall, you got the announcement that you had been elected like while you right when you were pregnant with number four right to the that hold on. Susanville family before this. What what led you to that decision? And what would you advise other people who are building legal careers? Oh, gosh. You know? I think it's hard. I think that everybody has their different thing that works for them. And I just I have to say I just never considered holding off on having kids. So that I could accomplish any particular goal at work. I always thought that it would be something that I would try to do at the same time. I think that is one thing that's really hard for women in particular at a lot of farms like this is the years that you're supposed to be really putting in your time in working super hard improving yourself are also the years that many women have just gotten married and start having kids. So it is it's a really it's a really hard thing to navigate, and I just, you know, I don't know that I have any advice for anybody else except to do what works for them at that particular time in their lives. You know, it's funny. I I knew. While I felt that it might impact, you know, my maternity leaves or six months maternity leaves. And so I thought that that might impact my passer partnership are my experience in the firm here has really been great. I think I was you know, right within the zone of when people typically make partner definitely, you know, a little bit later than maybe some of my peers who did not have all of that parental leave time. But it's something that I. Just never thought about I guess, I've never really thought about the timing all that carefully. I just kind of thought that I could do it and make it work. And it's funny. I do remember getting that call for my practice group leader who said so got some exciting news for you. I said he got some exciting news for you. We both have explaining each other. Laughed. And he said, you know, you did it with three sure he'll do it with four of you know, I don't think it's going to be a big deal. So it was great. It was really hundred supportive. Yeah. That is amazing. But that's I mean, that's great. But it was supportive. I would definitely like to hear if you we have a lot of listeners who are in law firms and many law firms out there at least talk a good game that they would like to have a more diverse partnership. More more women stick it out to that level. What can they do to make sure that more women feel like this is a track they can be on that? This is something that they can build their careers and do what can what can law firms practically do. Yeah. I think it's something that's really important that a lot of law firms are looking at right now. And I think one of the the most important things that they can do is have really strong mentor ship programs. A thank that. And I think it's important to have a couple of kind of mentors. I think it's important to have mentors who do have small children who are going through that same stage of life that younger associates are going through. I think that's really important. I also think it's really important to have somebody who's later in their career who's been successful. Who's brought in a lot of business who has that that long view and can explain that, you know, different periods in your career in different periods in your life. Are are you know, their seasons and they change. So I think that mentor ship is really important and that those mantras are Spence excuse me, those mentors or sponsors as well. I think is really important that it's not just somebody teaching you in telling you what to do. But really, you know talk. Taking up in getting your name out there, and I've been really lucky to have excellent mentors and sponsor or sponsors, both moms with young kids, and you know, older men who have been in the profession for awhile who give me a lot of guidance. And then I think the other thing is some to have really great parental leave policies in one thing that our firm just instituted that. I have to say I wish that they had when I was in associated having kids is our ramp-up policy. So a lot of law firms offer extended lease which I think is great because life as a lawyer at a big farm is really busy. And so, you know, coming back at a time before you know, that four or five or six month period. I think is is really tricky. And I think that longer time off sort of prepares helps you sort of get a little bit better situated before you're you're right back in it. And so I think when I was in assists. Was probably informal unwritten policy that you weren't held to the exact same standards as everybody else upon returning from maternity leave. But now it's been formalized in so associates returning from parental leave have three months, I believe it is where they are held to about eighty percent of their typical billable hour requirements, but they're still paid at full at their full rate in. So it's sort of a ramp up period that allows them to feel like they're meeting their goals, and to do with they're supposed to be doing, you know, while getting that time to readjust be pumping allowance. Something along those lost hours. You're like, okay. Well, there's my twenty percent. I'm sorry. I was just gonna say I'm always morally must have to just do with the market for different people in different professions. But I it still shocks me. That medicine is like like, none of this applies like none of it. And I don't know why are how long it's gonna take. But I'm really happy to hear that another professional feels that. There are companies really doing the right thing in mazing things for women because to my ears. All that sounds just like a dream. Yeah. Kathleen, I was going to ask you what I mean this. This is almost going to segue into our listener question that we definitely want have you addressed. 'cause you're kind of the expert on this, which which is that one of those things that gets the question a minute. But what imagine that eighty percent bills? But one hundred percent pay allows you to do is kind of reestablish have time to reestablish those client relationships because I know one of the tricky things in a client facing industry like law is when you disappear for six months. You know, your clients are working with other people and. Owning that relationship is often a big part of people's currency within their firms if that heart of what's going on there. Yeah. Exactly. And that's exactly it. And I think the the policy recognizes that doing facilitating a responsible transition is really important. And I don't know that it doesn't really help anybody. If you're working one hundred percent up until the moment you give birth right? And then just kind of dropping off the face of the earth. And similarly, you know, it's not the best thing for the client. If when you get back lead a one you just jump right back in. There's definitely that period. Where you need to reacquaint yourself with what's been happening. And a lot of that is not time that you do Bill to the client. It's it's just sort of working time. So I think the policy recognizes that having a really good effective responsible transition. It's something that takes time. And so I do. Yeah. I think it's the policies really important for that. Right. We'll aren't our listener question. This week is is about we. Oh, sorry. When. How are you? I don't want to skip your question about the running and like. Kind of heard the logistics. I guess we don't need a full day because we heard about her week. I really Laura had written in her notes where do you fit in running? So I know that she runs I need that answer before we move onto our QA Kathleen when you run possible, but I I run on as early as I can in the mornings, I got a treadmill this year, which has been a game changer. And then sometimes I don't run in the days that I don't run. This is really sad. I do the seven minute workout app, and I take seven minutes while the kids are watching TV in the morning, and I do that to sort of sort of helped me start my day. But yeah, I try to do my runs on the weekends on the days that I work from home that I can go through my day in my sweaty running close in story about getting into the office. And I it's always a better day when I am able to fit it in. But there's many many days when I can't. Exactly such is life. Thank you for fitting that that question. Our listener question this week is is from a woman who who lives in the UK and is having her first child she's expecting her first child ending work around Christmas having the baby right around that time. This is actually a woman who is married to another woman. So there's you know, non traditional things right there. So they can see their their child through IBS in donor. All that. Anyway, she has a pretty big job. She says she's the communications director for a nationwide NGO. She loves her job at stressful challenging all this great stuff the thought of going off on maternity leave and leaving my job. Even if only for a while is scaring, she's got great people working for her. She sorting out her teams plans budgets in individual objective their next year unit before she goes, but she's still very anxious about leaving them. So I she wants to know what what should I do to prepare for my maternity leave in an intense job. Like that, you know, she says, I know in some of little. Fine off. It was on the baby. It's great. It's just the next two months that are worrying to her on. And that she also asked the question of what can you say to reassure me that I'll still be me when I come back to work. I keep feeling paranoid that I'll come back and not be the same ambitious sharp creative Hurson show. You know, she's obviously very excited about her baby. Doesn't know exactly how that will change life. But knows it will. But she also still wants to have her big career. So I wanna hear from you a what you do to prepare for a longer maternity leave, especially when you've got people reporting to you clients things like that. And also knowing that you'll be the same person coming back in the you'll still care about your career. Oh, gosh. She has. So this is something that I have been through four times in every time. It did get a little bit easier. But I have to say in terms of preparation, it is it's it's there's a lot of uncertainty, and you have a lot of questions about how things will go. But on the flip side actually think it's a great opportunity. For number one organization and number two team building. So I was very deliberate about the process of transitioning client. So I wanted all of my cases in matters that I had going on and worked with those teams in those clients to bring in somebody who could handle the work that I had been handling it sometimes that would be just one person. Sometimes it'd be a number of people, and what I thought was really helpful to bring those people in early so star, you know, seeing them on emails start bringing them to meetings. So that they can get familiar with those issues. And then before I actually went out. Unfortunately, all my children were born very late. None of them were early. So they didn't have that dramatic. You know? You know, dropping off the face of the earth leaving maternity leave. But so a few weeks before I would try to sort of hand it over to them, and let them take the reins and do with a we're supposed to be doing while I was kind of in observing role. So that really helped make for a smooth transition and really helped sort of make both the clients ill that they had a solid team in place. And then also helped the people at the firm who are working on that matter field that you know, everything was covered in that. You know, there was a good team handling that in terms of return from maternity leave. I know it's it's hard. I think that it's really tough transition to come back to work and on the one hand, I think, you know. Of course, you're the same person, of course, missing person. I want to work hard. I want to do. Well, I wanna help my clients all their problems. I want to be successful. I wanna be a contributing member of my firm. But on the flip side, I think there is a really big difference in that. I don't. I think I had any real time constraints before I had kids. I mean, I had time constraints. I had other things that I wanted to do personally, but no hard stops. No, no absolute deadlines that I had to be out of the office for or really be mindful of on a daily basis in. So I would say on the one hand, you know, of course, you're going to be the same. You're going to be the same hard worker in the same person. But on the other hand, I would say embrace the changes I found that I am so much more efficient now than I had been previously. And I think it's, you know, sometimes not the best thing in the world. When you do have all the time that you could ever think of to answer a question, right? Sometimes it's helpful to have those constraints in. So I would say you're definitely going to be the same person. But also embrace those changes, and and some of the differences in the different perspectives that you bring when you return sounds like that you are the maternity leave exiting long enough in how. How many times he do it eventually hopefully figure it out? Yeah. Now, I think our listeners should should know that she will be the same person in the sense of if you are really fine meeting in your career before you probably still will after run. I think he knows Joseph. She has the support system in place to make it work, it's entirely doable. And that's one of our goals with best of both worlds is to help people. See that it is. And I will add that I also agree about you know, that you will not change person at all. And I actually find that going back to work was one of the things that kind of enjoyed feeling more like my, quote, unquote, former self I wanna go back like there's something magical about that office environment in and getting back to what you were doing before that kind of reminds you that you can you know, you can still do that. And you can still be your own person. Even when you're there for your family, and I think that can actually be. Again, like another positive spin on what can be a tough situation. Very with that. We'll Kathleen we always end our episodes with our love of the week has section. We're talking about something that's cool in our lives. Sweet doesn't have to be related to anything. We've talked about before. So hopefully, you'll be able to share one with us that we can go first. So that yet you have a minute or two to think of it, Sarah. What what are you loving this week? I am loving my cheap. Fifteen dollar year buds inspire three hundred headphones because I lost them. I tend to lose them like every year. Maybe some say break. I don't know. This is like my third parent. But it's not it's not it's it's generally my own faults. Like either done something terrible to them like left him out in the rain or lost them in there. The only ones if it might ears and they're so easily replaced the ball. So I love it. You have in their literature that they are specifically designed for smaller ears. I think you really like they were trying to get the women audience, and I was looking on the package and it said specifically designed for smaller ears. So. Yeah. And I can't by the way anybody who's like, well, why aren't you using wireless? I've tried like three types they all fall out of my ears. I think I have spat ears matters who knew will mind is this is this is a since I am spending. A lot of time driving my for small children around various activities this seat warmer function in my car. I love to turn this on in the winter that it, you know, you have the heater in your seat. For some reason. Just you know, it's nice to have a toasty seats while you're driving around in the cold and rain bringing everyone everywhere. So that's kind of my my little truth in in the winter. Kathleen, looks what's what's good for you. Right now, also loved my seat warmers, especially the. It's really simple. But I have been loving my kindle lately, I have been trying to spend a little bit more time reading, and I think I've been trying to use my commute time in particular to instead of just e mailing constantly the whole time or scrolling through my phone of trying to read my kindle instead. And I find that when I take that thirty minutes on my little kindle, which I can bring everywhere with me whether it's on my commute or in a doctor's office when I have downtime. I find that. If I use that couple of minutes to read a book, I just feel like it's actually giving me some me time some rest time, and I really enjoy it. So I've been living my kindle lately. Awesome. We love kindles as well with Anke so much, Cathy. We really appreciate your being with you so much for having me. It was great chatting with you. Thanks for listening. You can find me Sarah at the shoebox dot com or at the underscores shoebox on Instagram, and you can find me Laura at Laura Vander, Kim dot com. This has been the best of both worlds podcast. Please join us next time for more on making work in life work together.
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Ep. 2,833: Anthony Smith, Dominick Reyes and Gilbert Burns
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The only showed broadcasting live from the Mandalay bay resort and casino in the fight capital of the world, Las Vegas, Nevada. The lights are on and the mic, sir hot. It's time to get your MA fix junkies. Take it away. Big John, gorgeous, George goes. Are you ready junkie? Babysitters you written? Did you get it? All. From the bike capital of the world inside the beautiful Mandalay bay races sports. You're listening to the may junkie radio show. The only show that matters. I'm your host gorgeous, George with me as always the devious, and dastardly goes our east coast my left. It's the bite analyst, Dan, Tom using the show today. Josh jumbo. Josh Becky, what's up guys. What? Killing like a villain. Yeah. No. I'm not. No. I'm just gonna hold back from icing my buddies. They don't do that. Okay. It's funner when you them, right? So here it comes. You all know, I have three good buddies that a lot of you have met. I have a lot of good buddies. But the these are three that I grew up with known for for a minute. Gabe, who doesn't have a nickname. Sometimes we call him junior or gays. His name gets butchered more than mine. Does it really do showed me a receipt? They call them cave cave. Yes. All right. And then squid and Woody right? Yeah. See them during March madness during the Super Bowl and other occasions. Well, two of them. I can't stand from the months of September two right about now because they're big Cowboys fans, and they shut the fuck up right answers the Cowboys keep winning. I got to put up with it. And that's fine. I'm willing to put up with it. But when you got a big old fat trap like they do. And you have an opportunity to go. Watch your team in the playoffs at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, which is about an hour and a half minute drive for Woody in about a five hour drive for the squid even throw in traffic. If you're a hardcore fan like they say, they are you need to be at that game. Yeah. Scenario. First of all I kept hearing is. Yeah, we're going all the way, and we're going to be there. All right. You know at the time they were struggling, and I was like yet the cute guys. But it's not going to happen. Now, they're in the final eight and. They have a matchup versus the LA Rams. But last week they kept saying remember, we have this phone threat, text thread, and they kept saying hokey. So if eagles take out the bears, and we beat who they play the forecast thing who they play eagles and bears Seattle. And then we'd beat the Seahawks. Go to LA, man. We're so they're all they did that and they're not going. They kept doing that. I'm looking for tickets Woody with your squid, I found some here and there circling because now the phones isn't just words, it's emojis and texts and this and that then one of them throws out. A fun fact all I said was hey, you got your work cut out those teams that have had the by and their two weeks at home resting high winning percentage. Oh, man. It's going to be sixty five percent. Cowboys fans we're going to own that. That stadium. We as an against them them to and. Whatever else. The math works out to. I know from living in southern California that the Memorial Coliseum holds about ninety three thousand, but I wanna have simple math something to go with ninety and I'm gonna pretend they said sixty and not sixty five if sixty percent of that stadium. The ninety thousand seat stadium is going to be Cowboys fans that means nine times six fifty four thousand Cowboys fans are going to be there. What I found out tonight is that in the LA area and Vegas. There's fifty four thousand more hardcore fans than these two buffoons. Yeah. Well, we checked and those they sky rocketed the five hundred if you sit up I just turned off the phone. And so instead, I'm gonna go get a TV and watch it in my in my living shut up. Because you got me all fired up for the last two weeks about what you might be doing. And I'm living vicariously through them part of me is like damn why can't my Niners? Do that. Right. Yeah. But they're not. So there's doing it. Now, I am they're ready to push buttons. If they lose the first one that just laughed my azoff. But when they don't I will also take my medicine, and all I can do watch. All this the threat just keeps coming on my phone on my I message we're this. We're that we're legit repeats, Dallas, whatever man they're entitled to it. But I was really really disappointed to see that squids. Always slinging all these bed in college basketball college football. I sure thousands are wrist every day. And he can't just try five hours. He started saying something about I gotta get a room. Don't what he lives there. Yeah. All you. Gotta do is drive Woody friends out in that area. All you gotta do drive to woody's or big Ralph's that guy is waiting for you with a cooler and some sandwiches and some waters, and then some cold ones that have at the stadium. Then you both get in the car car pool. So LA's, traffic's horrible. I got you. But at least you got a carpool buddy you had down there with the four hundred or the five hundred dollar tickets that you paid for. All right, whatever it's like you lost the bet. It's like you got a flat tire something something happened. But something that you weren't expecting. And we do it for the things we weren't expecting you might as well do it for something that's going to be fun. Epic right because the Cowboys haven't had this. I think it's been twenty some years since either one a playoff game, or at least advance at this level, something like that. I don't know. But at least to a point where they don't have to fly to Texas now you're talking about three hundred dollar flights. And he'll you have to do the hotel and flights to get there. Let's road trip. But this one is just the gas tank up and back. You stay at what he's you. Get to the stadium cheer on your team, you die with them or you live with them, or whatever take pictures postal on Facebook comeback crash woody's of you have to get in your damn car and drive back to Vegas. I agree. You know what? I mean. It's that's just that's just what you have to. Do. You have to do it for the record. I will say this. I actually wanted to Cowboys win their first game. Because I think it's way funnier when they get smashed in the second round if they lose in the first round, then you're gonna hear well, nobody expected us to be here anyway. But if they get Chris in the second round now, they have a little bit of hope. And when I want them to go through the meat grinder. Yeah. But I am really disappointed in those two guys. Now, the other one just chimed I'm gonna get a new TV to Sida who cares. Give me off red. We all got nice TV's at this point. You know, I'll do fun things. But we don't do is go to playoff games. Those are on the road talk about the nineteen ninety floored warrior, and if see championship game that I went to or the one we went to for the Spurs to store, you can tell for the rest of your life. These are memories. It just so happens like gave the other two we can't go to a game together unless it's USC or the Lakers, I suppose, but football we can't because he's a Redskins fan. I'm a Niners fan goes. And I did it once, but that's because the Redskins were playing in San Francisco, but for the most part, I don't want to spend my money to go see his team and vice versa. I get that. But these to have that in common, and we talk about it all the damn time. And check out this Cuban cigar look at this steak. Look at these golf clubs. They make good money. The money comes in. And it goes out sack up assholes. Seriously. Waiting for me. It doesn't get any better than that you want. Do you want the Cowboys to overtake the raiders moved to to Las Vegas is that close enough? An Uber ride home and back or do you want? Or does what do you want him to play with Cucamonga earthquakes playing and and play in that it doesn't get any closer than the LA Coliseum? I know find a way. This is a rally cry for them to find a way to go to that game. And if not leave me off the threads, call yourself a hard core. Cavalry fan. I asked holes. Yes, they never go. Holy cow. Like, I couldn't believe it as I was reading these Texas after noon and that little throw in of the TV like, oh, yeah. The good call man. Don't care what you need to do you need. Do what I do. You just got to redo your rankings on your friends list and bump them down. I honestly probably vote someone until the Super Bowl, I won't reply. It anything to do with football. They wanna talk about something else. I'm in all chime in. Oh, yeah. College basketball or the Vegas Golden Knights. The lakers. Whatever don't bring up the Golden Knights. Josh pissed off another fight on your hands. You bring back friends and caller ranking start ranking things. Dude. It's fun to rank your family members in your friends. I know it sounds like an asshole move, but you got a lot of shit done. Yeah. And then you actually, it's a little subliminal a little subtle jab. Where you tell your friends and your family shape up. That's why I haven't been returning your emails or texts like I used to because even Jag off these last few months or years or fill in the blank. I don't know if you know this. But everyone on my phone has a credit score rating. And every time they piss me off their credit either goes up or down. No matter wanna look this individual is eight forty. That's a good credit score. Who's the king of bed advice can't say, oh, but that that person is good credit with me? I'm watching a highlight of Reggie Miller. And he actually was calling James harden clutch the other day, that's a big win home. And if I'm James harden, I went home, and I heard somebody told me that or him telling me that it'd be like, wow. I guess I guess I really am that you know, like, I feel real good about being. Want to be clutch? All the superstars, but I don't I can't remember more clutch guy than Reggie Miller. Ran in for him to call you Mr. clutch. That's like that's like, gene. Gene doodo Jean Lebel saying you can be. Oh, no sorry. It was Roddy. Piper. Saying you can be rowdy. You know? I used to be rowdy, and I'm retired. You cannot use my nickname too strong. Endorsement one of the best one of the best sports moments. I call myself lucky to be able to view live nineteen ninety five Eastern Conference finals, you know. No just watching live viewing being alive for using little guy right for my time little guy, but I can hold. I can hold my own already any adult at my parents party one had a sidebar about NBA, Dan, Tom already collecting. Ten years old. Okay. But I mean, I I was already cutting newspaper clippings from like ninety four ninety three onward, you know, following following basketball like hardcore and being able to watch that turnaround. What was it? We're talking Knicks and Pacers. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And believe I can't was it. What was it like nine minutes, and some points even reference actually that in my Brian Ortega article when I was talking about his skill set post. This Frankie Edgar knockouts around his back may and just comparing him. He is an essentially coming to the conclusion that you know, comparing him to Babe Ruth kind of in the article, but he was essentially a clutch player and we all love clutch players. And that was a good example of a clutch player for may. And I felt better reference in Reggie Miller. And I kinda reference that one but thank Saint back Miller in their house. It incredible finish when the Pacers played the Knicks in the mid nineties. He scored eight points in six seconds. You know, I left your house. I can't believe in and take his own life. Those four. Friends that you're talking about or those three friends you guys all rented a house, and I was at that house. And I thought they were done I got in my car, and I left, and I remember when I got home, you told me what had happened, and I did not believe you. And I even like, I don't have a phone back then. So I waited awhile before I actually found out that it was true. And the only time I can ever remember something like that happening in may was when saint-pierre lost to Sarah. There was a pride event going on and Frank Trigg. He was calling him back then with more or no. And he had called me any asked me in the fight. I believe the same period got knocked out. He didn't believe me. And he was like, yeah, you're foolish at your bullshit. And you can even hear moral in the background go man quit pulling her legs. And I think they went awhile before they actually realized that it had actually happened. Oh, yeah. By the way, it was a eight points nine nine seconds. Yeah. So that's easy to just Google. Reggie Miller point, eight seconds. You can find that little sequence. There was a three pointer. I think you had to run back and turn in mid air. And then Huckabee pointer, I mean, I can do one out of ten I think, and that's what my feet set and no one guarding mean. He did what he did. But look I'll finish with this. By the way today, our guests. We'll be Gilbert burns Dominic Ray is Anthony Smith those are three m I guess on this radio show where we spoken very little. I wanna finish with this for my buddies, and this is more to squid than Woody squid. Do you? Remember when we were seventeen years old and we went to two game sevens back tobacco. You're seventeen and eighteen that was the Los Angeles Lakers game seven, Boston Celtics, and the and the Detroit Pistons we didn't have that kind of money. I don't know where the hell we got two hundred. That's what it costs us to get in. Are you? And they thought his his data ticket. Yeah. The money just comes and goes, then the memories don't know what I mean, don't and I know my dad can say I went to a game even to game six game was better. We won from like, it wasn't like his came down to like a Magic Johnson type show, you know, the little shot. I don't know what it was what it was game six. He had the better game. But we were there to watch everybody rush the court. I was just telling Jon Landau, the story about the limousine driver who tried to get loud Lippi with Lakers fans, and then about thirty of us jumped on his limo and just completely demolished stone cold. He asked for it. But but but squid you remember that right squid? Do you remember when we made shirts that said? Gola foster the Lakers because Boston fans used to used to say what these say beat LA LA LA and Laker fans used to say, Boston sucks. So we combine the two and printed out the dumbest t shirts, you could possibly make cheapest shirts, probably like one seventy five cents for shirt, and we're still don't pretend we tried. We sold a few. And then also tapped on the shoulder by LAPD. He can't be doing that took it from us. He let us keep the money. I think because we said we haven't sold anything, you know, we're all scared, but we were Housel in. You know what I mean? And he just can't erase those good memories. He had so many the shirts damn tickets and get the fuck outta town man on Saturday drive up onset drive up on Saturday pickup. Woodie go to the game. In the game live with the consequences of the game. And then if you're tired of dry back, then stay at woody's. He's got a guestroom and drive back the next day, and if you can pull it off if you didn't drink or you just feel refreshed, and you can do it the comeback all in one night. Let's say it's as simple as a school, especially when you talk it up like they're good squeeze got serious. Right. Serious. You heard the man squid, and and I'm not gonna let Woody off either. Because. He's he's right there with just as guilty Cowboys and shit. Yeah. How about them Cowboys? That's what they say. Every Sunday what's up Prescott? And this guy and Amari Cooper. We're going all the way that they do this. They'll be in LA. We're so there you ain't shit. You ain't there. You can be there. You got time to be there. But you ain't there right now. So we wouldn't have ashamed I'm doing. We wouldn't we wouldn't be here right now. You seem fired up. I am fired fired up. You know, the other day we went to USC versus UCLA both teams suck this year. USC five hundred but were used to going like eleven to twelve and one thirteen whatever. We were like five and six and six time we played UCLA. UCLA was like foreign eight we had no business at the game. But when we bought the tickets the season started we had a really good time. You know that I can imagine. Tailgated? They still had rate laughs. The game was good. We lost the game. And I can still say it was a fun time. Gives need a reality. Check. Oh my God. All right. So. You know, who are three guests are. But let's talk about some other things that have you know, Carolina Cal Cobo cabbage is fighting Michelle Watson, I like that matchup. Yeah. There's people that are willing through and Dominic. Reyes. I mean, I know it now because I had to look it up. But he's fighting Vulcan those four no in the UC. He's ten ino- overall. So pretty soon we're going to be talking about him. Like Corey Anderson has to start sweating him because Anderson I think feels like his quarters up on the video game. All right, Anthony Smith's plan. But I got next for Jones. But he better watch out because is really really exciting. And I didn't really I thought he was like two, and I thought he was like ten ino- and to see, but no man is last week was that OS Pete win. And now, he's got to MIR. That's a big fight caroliina Cova cave, which is a big fight a lot of champions, either know who they're finding or they're already booked to be finding some of these athletes. Some of these challenges that are coming up in the ranks. It's a pretty exciting time. If you're never may fan the spring of two spring. Well, we're still in the winter. But the early part of two thousand nineteen going into the spring on memorial day's really really setting up nicely rankings mean nothing have your that. Number one contender. It almost means nothing because I never do all he's gotta do put on a great performance in guess what? Now, he got the shot. I will say kind of add in Georgia's note, it's exciting time more. So for light heavyweight which we haven't been able to say in a while. We've been kind of you know, almost making fun if you will because it was, you know, the, you know, the premier division for so long, and it kind of had been has been thinned out. No, thanks to you know, one of the greatest of all time John Jones and Daniel Cormet holding his dead while he was away. I mean, having those two guys at the tops going to make any divisional thin but this quietly contenders. Kinda like what you're saying George and by the way, Dominic Reyes. Yeah. Four and owned the UFC now quietly. Three officials stoppages though, you could say four stoppages if you guys remember at that third round with Pia he knocked them out of the pretty much the last second. Really on the Connor Connor card. Right. I believe it was. Remember the one to twenty nine up to twenty nine. Yes, sir. So we have some really really good guests on today's show excited to talk to him. Burns will come in around in about ten minutes. So I know we're gonna have to take a break pretty soon. And then we'll talk to in the second hour, we got Smith and raise backtrack now. All right. Let me start throwing out the number. Look the first two shows kind of in a feel feeling out process here of prime time. And getting my bearings straight eastern time. All that bullshit. But here we go so lock these numbers. Eight seven seven fight ninety three eight seven seven three four four four eight nine three. That's the same thing as fight ninety three. And that way, you don't have to scramble to hear me say, you already know it lock it in the phone and just put him and junkie radio again. Eight seven seven fight ninety three or eight seven seven three four four four eight nine three. And I just told you when the guests are coming in five thirty PM Pacific for Gilbert burns, six PM Pacific for Dominic. Reyes six thirty PM Pacific. Anthony Smith in between them we have some pockets where we take commercials or we cover the latest news. Are we more importantly, we take calls from you all so call in and talk about maybe you don't maybe forgot to get into the daily debate. You just want to chime in on that. Maybe you want to chime in on the latest news or still offer an opinion on the Covington who's mon- Woodley triangle there or what should what should DC do? Now that Jones kinda just went ahead and did his own thing. You know, we kept thinking his DC gonna get less than you know. Less there, by the way, has still paid two hundred fifty thousand to the Nevada State Athletic commission and around this time is win. He completes the one year sentence of the infraction. He had at UC two hundred against Marquette. He had a a one year suspension. It got put on hold. But when DC said me and Leser and all that activated itself. Again, Lessner had to basically make himself available to you Sada to show that he's cleaned. So that he can compete in that aside from that you have to pay two hundred and fifty thousand and then he can go forward with that. And if not then I guess would be the the next guy because deceit has said, so and I don't know that anybody else's more qualified, do you think he has to pay two hundred and fifty thousand or do you think he says I really liked the come back? But there's this little fine hanging out there just says we got that player. Yes. Yes. They do. So they go just go out there and pay the damn thing. And guess what have the fight? They'll be some bonus in there for you. Or you'll make it back. I mean, you know, you will make it back. I mean, really, maybe you can just say, or we just don't have you, you know. But I would think that the wants to they want to conduct a business transaction. So I don't know if they can say, we got you where the, wink, wink. But I think they'll say look man, you know, we sort this out the financial and the financial come in from a big fight that involves you guess what that two hundred and fifty will be covered. I I would think that that's how it would work. It's good to be Daniel Cormet right us just chill. And there's basically three giant fight out there waiting for you. Whatever happens happens right there. Either way you're gonna make a ton of money. Well, the listener fight is a windfall because there is a guaranteed mill paper. He's if Jones would happen that would probably go over Jones. We're getting close to a million the I know the eight hundred at that one in Anaheim would be the first one did. But I would imagine the third one would be a million steep. Not as big as those. Right. Not as big with still good. But I think Lessner is the one and. And sorry to disrespect Brock Leser here. But I think that's the easiest one as well out of meal Jones and Leser agree with that. Nagy vegas. That's fair. Although hopefully, the guy. Hi, clear me over over these walls, right here all of thunderlips. The. He could. Yeah. All right, guys. Let's do this. Let's take a break. And we will reset the table here. Gilbert burns, we'll be joining us followed by Dominic Reyes and Anthony Smith, we'll be some pockets call in so again, eight seven seven fighting Eighty-three or eight seven seven three four four four nine three. You lose to the fight and then the ring announcer. Get this is your home for all things combat theories. XM fight nation channel ninety three and on your phone with the Sirius XM app up assholes. Ulster reschedule that meeting calling your wife and her lunches off. It's time for enemy junkie radio. With gorgeous, Jordan goes. Right. It's tipping off at actually tipped off the Milwaukee Bucks. They will be playing against the airplane against James harden, and the Houston Rockets enjoy all the action from the hardwoods on MBA radio series. Two seven x eighty six streaming on your phone and at home on Sirius XM connected devices and speakers shot out to send me the squid was actually listened to my little rant there. Got you comeback was kind of dumb. But was it fat? No, I've only been to one you have seen the last five years you. Yeah. That's true. I close to being true. I know. That's why I just looked at it and said, I mean, all right, but. Yeah. That's dump the shot up this. Okay. I said what I said. And I hope the I hope they go because you can still get the TV and all that, you know, it's not one for the other come on Dominick. Cruz actually is trying to book like a day or two ago. And I feel terrible. I think I'll sending over a text as he was getting shoulder surgery. Now as someone who just has been nursing a sore shoulder, and he's probably got torn labor or something. I wish him the best. He has had the worst. Is he probably the most snake bitten? Yeah. Of all athletes. Have you covered in mixed martial arts. I think so. Yeah. The only. Right him because he's had like different. Yeah. Canes had a couple. Like like three torn ACL's. But, you know, look at the career he had to sit crews had a terrible career. But I mean cruises had so much time on the shelf man this. Yeah, it's spits been two years since he lost to Garbrandt feel the last guy you can make argument for bad luck. That guy's been able to pick and choose this nicely and not saying that in a mean way, but he did tear both these heels. I remember that. And I thought he torn oak chemo's had a bad run too. Yeah. Yeah. He died from Ursa. He had a hip replacement. See these guys at least got the championships where I'm not trying to play hairs, but it just point adds that it's interesting topic. You bring up because then you have guys like I would argue TJ grant, he never got that title shot all the way to and the career editor right there. And it's close as I am to the trophy here a career ender for TJ grant. He was on a five zero run when dropping the lightweight and I mean. Conceivably who was champion Pettus. Maybe I forget probably. Yeah. It was supposed. It was supposed to be Pettus is be no supposed to be no supposed to be Benson Henderson. And then and then they and pets was set up to face. Although at that time when they're talking about that super fire trout cut to go down. But then TJ grant pulls out so then well who better to step in Milwaukee, Than's, and he Pettus and Pettus got the title. That's when pet is worthy red suit, right? And he was front row. And that's when he called out. All right. It was. I think it was like you'll see one forty three one thirty seven. In the the reason I bring it up is because on that particular day if four out of five hundred dollars hit on the main card and Joey Varner, actually crafted with the assistance of Ford from Vegas. They crafted together a five teamer. I looked at it and said, I'm in because I'm very easy to convince to put a wager in, but this one had a lot of underdogs this one, Dan Tom had Bigfoot meeting. Alastair? Yep. Yep. And little dog beating her shoddy Rashad Evan. Yes. So basically, I was like you guys are crazy. Here's my fifty. I get cash parley. But. And the only favorite. I think was Aldo over Frankie over Edgar. Yeah. And it was so it was the Garo Rashad I I forget the other and it was four. No. And I remember at the very end. When you do one of these parleys, if you really really wanna like have some fun with it when you do a partly in Nevada, and you have a lot of underdogs in your last piece happens to be in the main event, preferably. It's nice to have the the favorite in there for one you feel a lot better. Like, oh, my God across all these hurtles. Now, I got these are the better guy. Not Eggers, easy, right? But here's the advantage. The one thing you can do is head using the leverage of the plus points on the underdog. So I told Joe Varner. I'm like, hey, man. These tickets are worth about five. Jeez. Each. Maybe we should heads a little on on Edgar. He was like in the arena. I got all though. I got the good guy. Got the I got the champ. You know? And I was like, yeah. But four hundred dollars just one. I mean how much can we tip? They can we poke that devil. Like, let's walk away with something. He was you could either walk away with four no matter what or you could find five but get zero right? And all this all this was happening in between three. Rogan's talking to whoever the talking. Trying to explain the prince. It's not like, we're. No. So Dan, you should head. You'd probably go. Okay hedging, he didn't know what that meant explaining in an arena. You're hoping technical and back and I'm like trying to write on my race. Okay. This is what happened that night. He said. Nope. And I was like, well, I don't have. I don't have that sack. So I did something to for. I think what I wanted to do was running all the way back to make legal wager here mentally bay. And then ran right back to the mentally bay events on. Yeah ford. Also, we played the percentages. But joy aren't got the biggest payday head of anyone because I'm throwing his business out there. I don't care. I don't think Lulu cares. He's got that Sam's Club money now though. Yeah, I saw bring that up by screen shot at that was like what the heck is going to Texas. You guys last? If it was too late. And and yeah, no, I was just going to bring that up. But I want I want to sidetrack is to get a call on. Oh, okay. Then. Then we have to get to that call, and I guess we'll keep trying Gilbert burns who so far we're over over one. Who do we have guys we got how from Chicago what's up? How how're you doing? What's my reward? My credit score goes. Milk that upon us goes good advice. Do forgive the credit scored would just worry about what he has you on under his phone. That's why I don't wanna look my name. Actually, I have doubted the real house Lintas. He's one of those teams number will give it. I don't have a credit score for but I'll put window right now. A figure that out look at this news. I miss this afternoon news. This was in between Megan in the shower and driving down here. Joseph in Evita's signed a new four fight U of C deal at flyweight. So is there has been an eleventh hour decision or is it still hinging on Suharto's? Gotta be dillashaw. It's or they bring it back or what here's what he said was at no point that somebody say, however, if something were to happen you need to finish the rest of your contract at one thirty five he said that never even came up. Yeah. Four fight. It doesn't specify the way class for his deal. I imagine like it doesn't specify the way class for any other dealing our own has their own Stephen. Tweeted out earlier regards this story, remember as the end of the day nothing negative, but they all can contracts are all all they can they can do pick. And choose what they want to do with these things at the end of the day guy. So true. So true man that was just boosting. Say that. I said you were going to next one I'll man boosting. I think it'd be easier. If you just said that the white, right? Oh about you took me serious. I was a full in about I was just playing with the media. Anyway. So what's his name? What's the score? Did we gave them a seven ten seven? Oh, okay. And someone eight forty. Yeah. So what does that eat forty guy done that how that how hasn't twenty hasn't? Oh, yeah. Get an eight four calls when he's in town hall reaches in his pocket to by someone a beer. He's a caller to the show. I can't put how's business out there. Oh, he's done some negative. Well, I mean if you went to a concert with how. Passing out. Listen. Hey, I've I've had how fall asleep with me a couple times. But he's still one of the better dates I've had Hal is infamous for falling asleep in and get this. I'm probably worse. This is no one knows it. Yeah. Yeah. My buddy gave were to call in right now. He could name five spots, and you guys are fucking dial. Like how did on, sir? I know for sure yeah. For sure. Once at the horse races. I think the strip comes more impressive. Had he falsely put a strip club. Well, it's not like they're always on your lap. I mean, there's a lot. I mean, the only thing you have gone in your. You know? That was impressive. Can can I say that or? Airplane? I won't tell the story. But he actually he threw up on himself and then fell asleep that one. My new too. All right. How? I may go down. Right. But just like fury. I'm up in ten. You know what I mean? And I'm ready to go for another two. You know? So anyway. Oh, I'll just say Alexander Hernandez versus owning a couple of Cowboys and one like. Mike, Colorado, all from Texas. He's getting disrespected again, he's he's he's a plus one fifty dollars. I don't understand the man Alexander got lucky with his punching is dare US Cup was gonna finish them or I guess, ticker. All right that that guy is my kryptonite when it comes to gambling, even when I bet I bet against them. I always get it wrong. Torius. Be talking right now, you guys talk about that. He's one of the harder gas to read, but I do agree with how? And I'm a big Alexander support may not big. But I mean, one of the only few people taking him against guys like oh AM and whatnot. So not that. I don't believe Alexander Hernandez. But that one didn't make sense it was similar to Barbosa Hooker. Now, I ended up taking Hooker. But that was before the odds shifted the odds ended up shifting making Hooker the favorite Barbosa the dog. And even though I was on Hooker. I didn't understand that. I'm no Hooker should be an underdog here. He's much less past win this fight and same with her aunt is saying I'm gonna go with Hernandez or not go with Hernandez here. I don't know what I'm going to go with in that fight. I'm actually going to be looking into that one soon. But I think the odds are off guys. Point. Hooker. You like to get on top of well. You know, you never wanna Hooker as a dog, right? You'll you'll. How still there hang up when I'm Josh for. All right. The USC on March thirtieth is going to Philadelphia to the Wells Fargo center. That's big news. And I'll tell you why. Because that's the city of brotherly love is a really really big city. I think it's the fourth most populated city in the United States. Don't quote me on that. It's either Houston, Detroit or Philly. I think it's Philly, of course, the top three or New York LA, Chicago. And there are a lot of fighters based out of Philly. But the the UC for whatever reason just hasn't been able to go there much, you know. In their history. And. It's baffling because it's a big boxing or. Yeah. It's boxers current boxers like puck is fighting or did you find? All right. Well Hopkins of their Danny Garcia the league. Joe frazier. Lots of boxers. So they're going back, and now Paul failed is the first guy I thought about, but as you all know he's booked. Do you think Paul fell there should politely and respectfully ask his opponent? Hey, man. Manda, ma'am. I didn't catch you at a bad time. Right. No. No, no. Let me ask. You question. Right me villi man in in six weeks later, then we're supposed to fight clear that all you call Sean shelve your Mark McMahon or to whoever your matchmaker. Isn't you say I already cleared it with so? And so, but could you just move my fight? I would love for Paul Felder to have his fight in the city of brotherly love, man. That's the first guy. I thought about. Yeah. Sorry. Go ahead. I was gonna say it's a bummer. No fell. There is obviously, you know, up the big name that they recently boss was Eddie Alvarez. And then he really shot out the fun size Makovsky, man. That guy's a Philly dude as well. But again, you know, flyweight who was cut prior to the kind of I don't want to fly with departure of not even invested of that in that point. But you know, what I'm saying you have to go what Pittsburgh guys we just what's his name? Just retired. We had him on the show went from heavyweight to light heavyweight outta mill said, but he's not no longer with them. So now, she Kagan believes got Philly ties perhaps. But I think she's been been in living in New Jersey times camp, they're the closest guys now Daryl Horter who's like I think it was like Harrisburg PA or something like that will sit Hayes at one time was affiliate guy before moving to San Diego. This was I f l going real real real. Yeah. Yeah. But, but yeah, there's some quality names there. I think that could. That you could tie you know, that down to and it is unfortunate Eddie Alvarez sign with one championship. And he would have been good. And I probably probably did think about him before. Maybe paul. I don't know. But that's going to be fun, man. I'm glad you did that. And I think the hidden Wichita for the first time, and I want to go back to Seattle. I've heard some good things about every time. They go to Seattle. You've had that fight card in Oakland with shell Sunan and Anderson's over the first time. Why haven't they been back to Oakland? Like, there's some major cities that need to get more. These shows a easy easy. We like our shows out here in Vegas. Don't take them away for weeks notice what name popped up in my head to. But is a Burt Watson wouldn't be there to. Yeah. And thinking about the last night the last time they were there. But one of my favorite baby. Last is one of my one of my favorite shows. Of course, you have C one. Oh, one headline by BJ Penn. Kenny floor, and you're the Andersons over Forrest Griffin fight there and Johnny Hendrix. I I still hear that Rolling Stones walkout song, you know. And he Marissa della member. Got that kind of controversial stoppage to some. I think at the time. But it was it was a very told you that I I remember him fighting. Amir's at all, but I don't really remember the fight the same walkout that heating. Big now, use a different song. Gimme shelter. Big did black data back. That the tar strumming in in Johny Hendricks. Wasn't that known table? You know, really, really good memory. I'll maybe I should apply to a blackjack not think about it there you all right? A good idea for us to go to commercial too. So I don't know if you can do that. Josh, let's go to commercial this song. It's junkie. Don't fight nation. Chelny three reset. We'll see we can real locate. You'll burns not a lot to move on. We still got Dominic gray is anti Smith going in the second hour. Stay close. Life is early. 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No. He kicked the kicked this coffee off the table. He's pretty pissed at this point. Hey, do you reference earlier shadow to the YouTube chat, of course? But just in the YouTube chat through this reference that you guys in reference George was talking about he said Dominic. Cruz is the Derrick rose of m m a standard. That's comparison. It is a good comparison Jau Jesse. I heard he's going to be out until late two thousand nineteen already. Yes. Elite two thousand eighteen so basically by time dominant Cruz fights again, it'll be three years, which is the same layoff. You had from when he fought whoever it was he fought last until KM occupy it wasn't it three hundred three plus years or something of that. Terrible. Yeah. Buddy, still like early thirties. And he's got tinware. No, no, no sorry. He he doesn't have to wear and tear just got shoulder and wear and tear. But from the injuries, but he's also healing everything else. So I suppose. Yeah. Can we clear something up? Yeah. What what is God's history. I had I swear to God. I've never heard of this. You can have that is so her mom, and my mom, go way back and like growing up just kind of always referred to hers kinda my older sister. But not by blood, so a God sister. But there's like a ceremony involved in that. I mean, there was there wasn't. There hasn't been an official ceremony. Maybe we could do one shadow to Lynch. He's visiting from California. No. We haven't done an official ceremony or anything. No. But I mean, you don't decide that your parents decide it, right? I was mutual I suppose again, these aren't questions I'm necessarily thought about but. Yeah, I mean, the original connection was my mom and her mom working working together way back in the day longtime. So I should sit here and go men if something were to happen to George I need someone to give me a wedgie. And then I picked somebody that I just think would be like, a cool older, brother. You can listen you can make your own rules. Are you kidding me? You're in Vegas. You got like half an octagon is a studio you're ball. And you could do. By the end of the week. God brother in a God sister. Yeah. I was gonna have you ever heard of a godmother? Do they have to me presence on my birthday again make up your own rules? Didn't know it was a thing to rank friend thing you made the sauce making this. No, wait a minute. You rake your own friends and family in your phone and has they deserve it. Right. But you kinda shot it out like we would all go. Oh, yes. The God sister. I have never even heard of that. I'm I'm the king of Mandalay bay. I don't know if you guys ever knew that. Was there a ceremony? God's not yet. It's coming though, titles are gonna make the rankings ceremonies. A key. Again. I haven't thought about that. I'm just saying if if you're gonna tell me that you rank your friends and your phone, I don't wanna get a agree for God sister. All right. All right. But the key is a ceremony he had a ceremony. So you can have that you know, you can have the type of relation with someone to be official for you to be able to talk about it and back it up you have to have the ceremony. That's so I can joke, and I'm the king men lay. But there was no ceremony so ceremony. I'd have to have a ceremony and since I know I can't then I think you can really why not. Media. It's Sunday football, right? When it's packed. We open up the windows, and we say, hey, everybody, see this guy. He's the king of Mandalay bay raise your your glasses. Everybody. A crown on your head. And you be the king. We do that every every major of Ed by the way, like not not every weekend, obviously. But every major event that day or whatever to do it and get through spas. Otherwise, you gotta pay rounds. He'd be like Paul. I am the king. I like that. That's good. Good thinking. All right. Well, March thirtieth folks is when the headed to Philly just to kind of round out that little conversation that we had earlier the UC's got a really really hectic schedule in two thousand nineteen we suggest you go to remain junkie dot com. When you have a chance, cook, the rumors tab, and we got it all outlying, they're not just UC. But Bela Tor one championship NFL, all of the major organizations that are out there throwing on shows credible shows great fighters there in our rumors tab, the ironic things I think Eddie Alvarez fights the next day at one championship. Yeah. He had a pretty funny tweet about it March thirty first and that young lady that that subdued the would be mugger pollyanna Vienna. That story just blew up on him may junkie that was an Libertad show was quoting him and may junkie, and what were the other ones buzz, you know, TM. Mzee, but she's already got a fight booking. She's got Hannah ciphers at UC to thirty five here in Las Vegas and here's another booking. Check this out. Most hardcore fans are gonna dig it. The casual fans going to be like, you know, what I mean? But I love this by booking of Charles all of our versus David taymor. You've see on ESPN plus two in Brazil. These are just too quiet guys that have winning streaks in a hectic division, which is one hundred fifty five pounds. And the winner is gonna have a lot of shine on them. I think it's one of those fights where you're going to see a certain moment. And if it doesn't happen you're going to this. This just got interesting take sorry to interrupt something that won't be on junkie because it got tweeted only twelve minutes ago, but it's close to our show a close to you guys. All Joe Joe lows on we did got the official cured call today. No, more cancer talk. No, more neuroblastoma. This wasn't a surprise. But it was still great to hear. What was really good to hear was the any kind of goes on. But it's on his Instagram. Yeah. Oh, I thought they baby had defeated that years ago. So I came back as it wasn't official. That's why said it wasn't surprised the official, call the cure. It car. Joe is on. That's great news. That is really really great news. But I say he retires second when you said is it him because the baby thought had had, you know, recovered fully. But yeah, that is great news. There is that is one of the nicest people in all of main Joe is on. So that is good news. Ricky Simone draws Hania in abandoned about a UC to thirty four in Melbourne Australia. And then I mentioned earlier in the show caroliina Cova cabbage. She is facing Michelle Waterson. Adt that card in Philadelphia, right? It's the top of the hour break. I did hear back from burns. So we'll see what we can do to reshuffle things here. It's don't finish in three stay close. We'll be back in about ninety seconds. Thank you. Getting everyone. I am run delirious here with the coach awry. I'm the host with the most ringing out three incredible wonder physicians all the way from North Atlanta. Georgia plays stop clapping has now. Migo? Tell your boss to reschedule that meeting. Call your wife and teller lunches off. It's time for more intimate junkie radio with gorgeous, Jordan goes. All right. It's the beginning of the second hour here junkie radio coming to you live as of this past Monday. So here we go. We got a really really cool. So lined up the first hour, we were kind of discussing the latest news in mixed martial arts. And now, we got some interviews lined up. We're starting off with a killer. But devastator Dominic Ray is debuted in the UC and has quietly gone four. No in the UC. He really sorry. Mid two thousand seventeen I remember I was excited because he was a Kelly guy, and he debuted in then I couldn't believe I had to read my is a few times to realize he's already at four. No in the ten in overall in that big win over Vincent Pru for sure. Now, we know, hey, this guy's top ten closing on top five material. And now, he's got Volcan Ozdemir. So folks write that name down and start, you know, if you're looking for the new wave of fighters to ride that train, you know to be a fan of because they can't fight forever and someone we're gonna stop. Retiring, and this is one guy that I think you wanna get behind. And he's a he's all around athletes got a wrestling background, and he can strike, man. He really really has some devastating kicks. Plus, he's a fan of the LA Lakers. So how can you not love this guy? His name's Dominic. Reyes joins us now. On hotline. What's up Dominic? How're you doing? Just driving around right now. Hey, how did you? How did you get swept under our radar man? I knew who you were you were winning. But that's four wins in the you have seen like seriously in two thousand nineteen you get past volcanoes Demere next thing. You know? It's it's Uber's Jones. Right. I mean. Sienese get behind you a little bit more. That's the plan with this London. Fight year come against ovo. Can I think for me is going to be a statement statement fight kinda come out there and? Really show division. What's up the guy should be worried about? Yeah. And you have been doing that. Because you have a eight out of ten of your winds happen finishes. I man, you know, what I almost need to know. Yeah. I need to apologize myself. How how did I let this just happened? You know what I mean? Very very subjective. I'm very very I like professionalism all the time. So I'm not one of them guys. That says, oh, yeah. I I have favorites. And my favorites are the Kelly folk calories. You know what? I mean, this guy should be a guy that's been on our show at least seven eight times. We should be talking him up. He's beating Jared cannon ear. He's beating Vincent impro-. He's undefeated. He's a finisher. What more do we want? Holy cow. And now, you're right. He got volcanoes Demere in London. Dominic man. Do you see two thousand eighteen is the year that you could you could be competing for world title, or do you want to take it slow? What's your protest? Where is two more fights in the title? So I mean by the end of the year, maybe December fight for the title that that seems realistic to be honest. Do you want it to be Jones when you get there? Dominic or does it do you do? It matters. I want I I would love to be the guy to dethrone Jones spend the plan all. If if I'm a fan, and I'm hearing that I get even more excited. This guy's not running away from the challenges love it. All right. Dominic. Reyes. Dominic contract wise. It seems like you're right around that area where maybe you could be seeing a new contract. And anytime there's a guy with an undefeated record. They have to kind of play that game. Right. Can you fill in where you're at? And what you would like to do as far as your contract when that does come up. Well. I mean when you when your contract comes up, and you want to get paid, especially when you're in defeated. But yeah, I'm gonna get paid man, I wouldn't fight, and I wouldn't in dramatic fashion. So because you have pay close sorry to interrupt because you're so close getting a win keeps undefeated keeps you moving forward. But do you feel that little bit of pressure that may be getting a win and having a stamp on that wind can even bump you up a little bit more? Absolutely. I mean, it's all about performances in UFC. I mean, you guys jump over time. But I think I think that that that stamp on. It is is kinda my trademark, man. I like to, you know, have no doubt in the minds of anyone watching the fight that I won that fight. I like what you said about one in its stuff against Jon Jones wanting that fight but going back a couple of months ago when Daniel Cormet was the champ there, did you feel like that as well? Like, you would have preferred to face a guy like John Jones. Or was it just a matter who who the champion was like back. Then was it. I want pizza Cormie, or did you always want to kind of have this this fight with John jobs? Jones. I started fighting twenty twelve so I mean look at that Jones the guy then and I've been kind of training for me in time. Well, yeah. That's kinda. Yeah. Eight. Yeah. So this is what I said, I think it was yesterday. Or that before I felt like we know Smith got next. He's playing the game. All right. He's playing the John Jones Arcadian I'm going to school here with this reference and Corey Anderson put quarter up there. He says I got the winner. But what I did mention in this before I even knew we were going to book was I go be careful with a guy like Dominic is because if raise wins he make it in front of for Anderson. You know what I mean, coy Anderson? He's sweat his next fight. Now, Corey Anderson is wife's gonna give birth around March all respect there. He doesn't want to rush into a fight or anything. Exactly. But that you know, this is a business. And this is a sport that doesn't wait for anybody. So coriander says X move will have to be very very calculated. He'll have to have a good performance the guy like Dominic Reyes is can come in and snag that. And you know, what I'm starting to get excited about two five again just talking about some of these names out there still is wreckage. We had a great debut from. Johnny walker. So hopefully, two thousand nineteen is the return of light heavyweight. I agree. I hope so I mean, I hope to bring it bring it bring the life back as well, man. I've always looked at light heavyweight in really been like, well guys are pretty powerful. They could use some serious damage and division kinda fell off. And I'm happy to be part of the new riding crop of heavyweight out there ready to put it on the line for you guys. Dominic Ray is our guest here on MA junkie radio. He's facing volcanoes the mirror. You've see fight night on ESPN. Plus that's coming up on March sixteenth in London. When the fight analyst, Dan, Tom what you got for Dominic. Reyes man. Well, maybe it's because it's my job to watch tape. But I'm different from my co host here man, you've been on my radar since day one at least from the USC. I have course, I'm not just saying it to say because you're on the phone. I, of course, became aware of you with the viral knockout. But here is going to parlay into my question for you. Don, here's here's what I was. Why was impressed? It wasn't. Because of that knockout that knockout your first yo see fight caused me to go back and watch what I could from you. But it was. Pass fights, man. There was watching things like anybody can get a flashy knockout. Yes, you have athletes which is enough to make you stand out in your division or any division. Let's be honest. But what impresses me the most was watching you ride position? Being smart went to bail went to commit the things that you you seem way beyond your ears. So my long winded question to you here. Dom what age or when was it for you that you realize your natural ability for fighting because you came from football and other athletics, if I'm correct and also when was it that your coaches and people around you, which I'm sure that people notice that you had a natural proclivity for this fighting stuff. Probably right after the draft in twenty twelve I started training, and I may. I noticed that. I was kind of built better for the may than football. Long limbs tall athletic, you know, powerful. But still light at the same time. I think on the in twenty eleven I didn't really know how to throw a punch, man. I didn't. In twenty twelve. Like, Wow, I've never done any kind of formal striking ever. It's all based 'em as stuff like, you know, people learn how to learn how to cook off a food network. Uh-huh. He didn't even watch boxing talented, where I could I could take everything and learn from it, I can watch things. Learn from it and actually perfect technique that way, that's my football background though. I believe in watching film. That is definitely clear out of the anybody's are you in that you can you can do the damn thing. But just to be clear, did you even watch like boxing or mixed martial arts before before twenty twelve prior even just as a fan. The similar not really. Wow, that's super that's super resume. Just last one. For me. You mentioned obviously the football Craig me from around. Did you combine with the forty Niners by chance was that was that was I reading that correctly? With the jet. I was in New York playing ball for Stony Brook. Came in like going to the Gulf rains with Dominic and he's just like, what do you do swing this thing? And like three years ladies wearing a green jacket. Yeah. I mean, I've always natural ability for a good wrestler, and I've three other brothers. My eldest brother Alex Rae as he fought my carry on short notice. So we got two brothers in the UFC. So it's kind of always been we just fight with each other. I noted earlier your fan of the Lakers. Tell me what you think we're we've got the fourth best record in the Western Conference. Could this be the year that we actually sneak in and maybe get to the conference finals or am? I being a little optimistic. I slow down a little bit. I see is anything's possible with the Braun. I mean, you never know especially being this close. Like, I turned it up. So get healthy. I we'll be good. Yeah. I had a feeling we could be like the sixth ranked team seventh-ranked team. But I couldn't believe it. When I looked Niki relating. Number four, and that means we would get a home playoff series. And and they just keep getting better and better and LeBron is pretty special, man. Like, I think he's been the eight straight finals. I mean, he's lost a lot of them. But still just to get to that dance. Pretty damn impressive. Now, he's also on his back. Yeah. Yeah. For sure who do you got in the Smith Jones fight? I mean. Yeah. Win. I think. Okay. All right, there you go. That's what I wanted to hear was he has a victory. All right. Smith Topi predator, dude. He throws those hands. I mean if he just goes out there and throw caution to the wind. He might have a chance, that's my opinion. Tell me tell me off year. I was saying earlier that to be Jones, you gotta get them within the first ten minutes or so maybe fifteen just see like it's a tough puzzle to solve as it just goes on. Because he he really does have a pretty good fight, I q and he's got a lot of experience. I mean, if thrown everything every body type is way, every type of fighter, you know. And he, you know, he's been in just these big big fights any always rises the occasion. But I like a guy like Smith, for example, does we've seen them. I some people early. I'm thinking that that might be his best bed. It's just go strong and go hard for ten twelve fifteen minutes. He knows where he's strong, and he knows he should use that to the bandage. Joe's you gotta look at this. He has a master strategist and his corner. He's really good at following the game plan. So first of all you need to understand that. How would you be yourself? And then you have to be able to adapt just like he adapts mid-fight. And then you can't. And then you go to like f the John Jones Lor, you know, what I mean forget that. He's he's just a man fight him. Don't be scared of him. You know what? I mean. I think those three things you could be Jones. I mean, I'm gonna be Jones if nobody else does. There you go. Like that right confident dominating everything's spot on that's the way, you gotta do it was because you could tell he kept the real. But at the same time, he's not pussyfooting around. He's here to be a world champion. So good stuff there. Dominic. I like it. Thank you. All right. You ever come to CPI? It'll. And you all the time. I'm going to Mars. No ship. He done messed up dominant. Yeah. Yeah. You messed up. I'm gonna tell you why we would like for you to pop in and co hosted episode with us sometime, I don't know tomorrow's too. But if you're if you're constantly. We'd like to learn a little bit more about to these dodgers these Lakers growing up in so cow football that stuff these spots are only like ten twelve minutes long. And so we talk a little bit about the fight. But I really like it when fighters coming we just had Curtis milliner milliner coasting yesterday, and we get to learn so much more about you guys. And sometimes I feel like the fighters themselves at the hustle a little bit more. But as media, we can definitely go in different routes in our route on him and made junkie radios had been the gift fighters in our studio and have them coast the episode with us. Sounds awesome. I'd like to do that the invites there will be in touch if tomorrow too soon. All right. We get it. But, but if you you know, on other occasion, your schedule clears up, we'd love to have you brother. Awesome. How nice night thanks for the interview. You guys you guys later talking. I see you two. At Dom Ray is Twitter handle give them a follow. Folks. This guy is really really a great great fighter and he's off to an impeccable. Start at ten no overall eight no in the see. Sorry four no the UC. And now he's got a big big fight. That's what Smith over was beating Volkan. So all can you know, he needs. He needs to hold onto what he's got to. Otherwise, all these young guys. We're talking about are gonna pass them up. He's part of that future for that division. Really? When you know, the guys at the top of your take them out these guys would it would be a really fun division. These would just be battling. Yeah. He's twenty nine is bowl. Cancel he's still time. All right. Give me an update. Josh we able to connect with Gilbert burns that was actually standing by pulling back the curtain a little bit. If you wanted a break, we could get him after the break or I could call them right now he standing by. Okay. Let's do the little break. We can get one of the two breaks done. And then when we come back, we'll be talking to Gilbert raise don't touch that dial semi radio, I'm fighting nation channel ninety. In force them to a tire undefeated from a with a record of. Oh, oh, they are gorgeous, Georgia and go and this is intimate junkie radio. NBA fans, you gotta put it on NBA radio. The Milwaukee Bucks are playing the Houston Rockets. Enjoy all the action from the hardwood on NBA radio series. Two seven x eighty six and streaming on your phone and at home on siriusxm connected devices and speakers, thank you. Dominic grey is for his time shot up to Steven Morocco for lining up. Our next guest is Gilbert burns Gobert burns got to win in December of two thousand eighteen he defeated a live EA OB in mercy, and he's looking to get on the Philadelphia card. If you follow him on Twitter, you can tell that. That's that's right up there, man. He says I liked that follow him on Twitter at Gilbert duty. No, all right. Let's get them on here. What's up Gilbert? How you doing man? I'm good. How you doing? Good. Thank you for asking. All right. Great way to end two thousand eighteen with that win over. Oh, AM Olivier in Marseilles. He's a tough guy, you know. And you got the win. Two and one in two thousand eighteen you've won three of your last four. And now you're looking to get on that Philly card. I got that. Right. So the thing is I don't like to so much. I mean so far for fight and the field. His tourist flying. Like, the all the CD star. You know, L see two other. They them. It says. Yeah. So I like it. So now just looking for the pointy, but pretty pretty on that car loved that dates. So what does Shawn Shelby or who's your who's your matchmaker? Mc Maynard or Sean. Shelby. Shelby. What if Sean Shelby, text you and says, all right hotshot? I saw your Twitter. You wanna fight on Philly? Who do you wanna fight? What do you tell them? What he takes them back. I don't know like anybody. But I I they come on mind cease to Joe much best. John mcdevitt. See? Okay. Yeah. I like that. Yeah. Here, but I'm not I'm not asking five. For like a boarding chips. I gotta make that gotta make sense for leave for the guy for the you know for the company. So I think you'll be like interest matchup, and they suppose fighting Canada. I think he got hurt. I kinda follow. Always nothing serious backing traded pretty soon. So yeah, I think that's what makes a lot of. These also won three of his last four. So he's kind of in the same situation as you. So I like you, and I think that usually I think that usually gets the job done when the athletes are like you, and they voice enthusiasm for being on a card like you did for Philadelphia on March thirtieth, and then you can tie in the name or two man next to you know, they start the door start to open. You know what I mean? I'd love to see that fight. If I'm being honest. Even think too. I kind of do so much do scenario in kinda do a lot of reprimands or have priming. They stand that fate. Cannot pull them person. I gotta make comed- for heat forty UC. You don't forty days and the makeup be nice. So the the only thing that they gotta know if you need letter know her I thought. I follow. He so I saw coupling Luke they help today. So why not my call him on like nicely? But. Might call. My call him on pretty. While you're doing it right now. Because trust me writers, they love these types of headlines. So I think you're actually taking care of two things in one shot here by doing the interview mentioning his name. He's on our show quite frequently. I don't think he'll take it disrespectful at all. He likes challenging himself and your seven UC fourteen and three overall Sierra respectable opponent for him. Be like talking sheet. I'm just asking fighter could fight, you know, nothing to have respect for. I think he's very he's a guy. Very great father so couple he's fights. And if he fights makes that's it. That's all I'm not being respectful. If if ask your phone fund that's respectable. So that you know. No, I understand. All right, Gobert Burns's, our guest here on MA junkie radio. Like, I said earlier he is seven three in the you have he's fourteen and three overall and he's got one three of his last four fights including the last one over Libya in. At UC thirty one the fight cartoon place in Toronto Canada tonight, max Holloway, defeated Brian Ortega. All right. So the fight analysts, Dan, Tom, Dan, what do you have for Gilbert burns? Hey, Gilbert, I'm looking here during the Graham, and you know, I see a picture of your friend, Kamara obviously, you guys have trained together. And I know you've you've helped Comoro I'm sure with with with a grappling aspect. Let me ask you a as far as Kamara skills. Obviously is a is a really good wrestler a great fighter, but as far as jitsu skills. Can you tell us something that maybe would surprise us that we don't know is he like a lot of wrestlers and dizzy, mainly focus on more writing and stalling positions or does Camara who have some submissions that you think would surprise the general public Gilbert? Being train you'll be trained. Forget it five years five or six years, and the guy the thing that that impressed me so much is either blue guys always improving every single flight. He'd be driven heaping sofa table, you spent hours and history is very good. A lot of people don't know. But he he he's a ground better GT trees under George Santiago hates may coach edgy in ROY. He he has natural Bill like for fight. He he just a stall he has rarely troll gonna apart by next couple of trade that we trained more. Over four card the pizza when he forced issue where I wanted to guy and they say diesel side with so we both want by knockout. But he was the guy who will help each other that same because he was fighting fighting. I was longer than me that would jail time. So great so hard to get get him into submission, and it'd be helping a couple couple of fights nothing. But like. Pushing that day might you was she up here the whole mug and eat hearts get the guy Lewis initially that very good like wrestling based in his leg, you say this study. He's always learning very different levers, very they're did in. I might say almost impossible to submit. Wow. That's awesome to hear and just one last one from Gilbert another fighter, obviously, you have experience with your brother. Herbert burns. Congratulations to him. He's recently coming off a win. Can you? Tell us anything what's next for him. Or is there anything you can share in that department? Yeah. Titus we Bill long week after my fight. It just went on to Kazakhstan and gotta also performance the guy that lesion like dry on buffalo handle. And together over the next tyrant car tired and car they would be if Florida March I think in the second week could to ward. The florida. So yeah, he's already packing training guy. I think we like to play that all the on like things for Clement aggressive, and he got all the guys. Thanking co I think he'll be getting on a couple of weeks. Maybe three billion go. She's very more doing the may be as Dana. White industries would be back on swing. They he got a couple of least rake you'll be debt you. All right. We're talking to Gilbert burns right now goes would you rinse Gilbert, you got some mental going into two thousand nineteen in regards to two thousand nineteen what m may New Year's resolutions. Did you make for your career? A lot. I would-i. I wanna give in this tweet. Your bet you sure. Hopefully, I can get three weeks that that's that. That's the main goal for this year and largest with the we we we know what the statement went. That says she there's more supporter for me. I'm always being the fight. Is twist back like the enemy expect and says, well, I don't like the, you know, too boring fights like I wanna get like, you know, like cook performance domination that. That's why I'm looking forward to be pricing on my fight. If with gather finish like there wasn't on. My last flight, I just wanna perform like all dumb nation ofen drive to finish the guy. He's that that that that first minute towards the last the last round, I'm well, I wanna be things. My my New Year's resolution together. Three Foley strike, but to the top team. You know in making that is easy. I wish all fighters said what you just said. I wanna fight three times this year. It seems like a lot of fighters are either fighting one two if we're lucky. Nah, man like like Curtis. Milliner was our guest yesterday. He fought four times in two thousand eighteen Israel Awda Sonya, he fought for four times in two thousand eighteen so you gotta get in on one of those early ones and. Hopefully, you stay healthy. But I think three's a nice number. But I can live with two. But man, there's a lot of fighters that only fight once. It's tough because it's tough to stay relevant because there's so many great fighters out there. Sure. And the other thing too. I think he will mentally anytime gets a fight for sure let's go through four. I let ahead fourteen games because they had the camps to fight easier here in London with the completion fully out and so forth camps, and they had three fights floods. Also reprimands the Kasai Larry find two week couple couple of grappling match that keeping busy. But I I love the. Yeah. I love the competition because even even with that launch thing hookah, I kind of let us hope from that laws like. I think any type of competition for your meat put me on that you levels. Fires a personal and I would say four or five year, but Bill there four fourteen kids, then a hand less. My body was beat up by awesome. We don't boomer CEO was go Webuye was three threes. Three five. Good just I just thought of that too. Those camps are brutal. It's easy for us as fans and media go. Yeah. Yeah. Fight three or four times, we get it. We forget about the eight week training camps the weight loss. Strict, you know. Great number. We we the we'd all the peparation. We we the fight with little celebration with little rice back to healthy enough time. All right. Well, let's even get you on the fight card in Philadelphia. Gilbert burns was John mcdevitt. I love it. Hopefully it happens. And I wanna thank you for being on the show. It was really fun talking to you Gilbert. So we appreciate your time. Thank you guys ever do the show a lot. Thank you. So we appreciate that common. All right. We'll talk soon my man and follow him on Twitter folks at Gilbert duty. No. So it's Gilbert like his name, and then D U R N H O. Let them know you heard him on the at ever may junkie radio show the quick break. I know Anthony Smith is ready to go. You're listening to remain junkie radio on fight nation channel eighty three. Stay close. We'll be right back. Your one stop shop for the best. Brew wrestling and boxing is right here. Sirius XM fight nation channel ninety three. They can drink mentos flavored diet coke without their stomachs giving a single fuck. They are gorgeous towards and goes, and this is Emma made chunky radio. Sirius XM is giving our subscribers and opportunity to go to land for Super Bowl fifty three grand prize winner will receive a trip for two tickets to the game. Plus you have an opportunity to serve success official blog reporter for rules to enter go to siriusxm dot com slash Super Bowl. Do that before January twenty third. No additional purchases necessary. The NFL is defined in the Fisher rules have not offered or sponsored this week stakes in any way. Our next guest is a beast. He had a hell of a year two thousand eighteen especially when he made them move up to light-heavyweight skidding people all over that octagon, choking them towards the end of two thousand eighteen and that he was rewarded with a shot at John Jones light heavyweight title at you've see thirty five. He joins us now on the hotline Lionheart, Anthony Smith. How you doing man? I'm doing great, man. How you doing? Good. Congratulations on getting the title shot versus John Jones. That is going to be an amazing night here in Las Vegas on March. Second. I'm sure you're still on cloud nine. Yeah. Little bit. My nose to the grindstone pretty hard. You know, there's not a lot of time to sit around and and and feel good about myself. We gotta we gotta fight to get ready for them. We got a big challenge in front of us. And I'm looking forward to a man I really am excited. Let me ask you two questions, and I'll turn it over to the guys and these are going to be a little off the wall. Hopefully, you're with me, though, when you lost a Caesar for era, July two thousand sixteen dollars second fight in the first you lost your second. Remember what that felt like, and what did you think about where your career was headed? Did you have any doubts? Like, man. Do I belong in the like, can you remember your mindset that night? Yeah. I remember what everything lost feels like. I remember exactly where I was. My biggest thing is been. When are we gonna figure this shit out? Like, I I know that I I knew then, and I know I knew what then as much as I know. Now, I ha- I have the abilities to be the world champion. I know it I feel it. I feel it in the gym. I feel it in my in my heart. I, and I I know it, and I believe it, I truly believe in myself. And and, you know, all this time just for whatever reason, it's like, you know, I'd get one thing together. And the something else would fall apart fix that. And then something else like I got this like, I'm driving a fucking hoop. Dee all the time and every time we fix something. So far. I'd like to compete, right? That's how you know. Like, you fix it. And something else breaks fixing. It's like God team. Why can't figure this out? And you know that it's the same thing with the Santos loss. And February like it's just things were falling off, you know, and. Just a terrible spot to be when you feel like you're when you know when your heart that you're good enough to be a world champion though that you're good enough to hang with these guys at the top. And and you're right there with them. And then every time you get there. You just can't put it together. I it's it's so depressing him it really is. Yeah. So that's what I was gonna say you you the hoop? The put it together. You added a piece you won three in a row after the fair loss and then just less than one year ago? Anthony Smith, you'll loss to the AGA Santos. I I remember seeing a tweet from you. And and you know, you I mean, obviously, you take these losses hard. But what was it that drove you where you knew, hey, I can still keep adding pieces to the hoop Dee, and and you know, have an save the year. You know, a lot of people would be like, oh, man. It's two thousand eighteen not even going to be my year. But look at the year, you had man these are some hall of fame names, marisha Rashad Evans, and then you got one of the toughest to fivers. Front of you in volcanoes Demere and boom three finishes. That was an amazing turnaround. Yeah. I just I just I I know that science sounds cliche. Minute sounds lame. But I I just don't I'm not letting anything stop me. I'm not I don't I I've said he does is far back as shit who knows two thousand fifteen you know, like two thousand fourteen baby with the whole strike force thing before that like, yeah, I'm gonna be a world champion or I'm gonna die trying. And and I believe that one hundred percent like I'm going to be a world champion, or I'm gonna be the first guy to die in the gun trying and in in and I believe that. And I'm okay with that, you know, and I've made peace with whatever, I gotta lose whatever. I gotta sacrifice to get there. I make peace with it. I'm good with it. Anthony, the major. The radio. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Oh, you go. You know, the the it was tough and it, but that's it. That's a lot to me because I knew going into that fight that I wasn't one hundred percent from the white car. I knew that. I wrecked myself. And I knew that it was gonna be a that that was gonna be a bear. And I knew that what I done to myself that there's no way fight at that level. And and nine times out of ten it's not gonna go your way, no matter what I'm gonna go out there and do it. So you know, when I left Brazil, I knew I wasn't gonna see hundred five pounds again. Anthony Smith, our guest here on MA junkie radio. He fights John Jones at UC to thirty five on March second here in Las Vegas. Thirty one wins in his professional career twenty eight finishes fellows, that's an incredible run. And how about this to win streaks of three in his last fight? He's won six of his last seven and he's fourteen into in his last sixteen. That's because he had an eight fight win streak. So he's been killing it an incredible year in two thousand eighteen after that Santeals Las moves up the light heavyweight and goes three, and oh, and that's how he got this shot. All right goes, what do you ever Anthony Smith, and we've interviewed a lot of people who were getting ready to fight John Jones, but they all had different motivations. Some of them said I'm doing this for the money. Other set I'm doing it. Because I want that belt and a few of even said, I just wanna knock that smile office faith, which one are you? Title. I want to try to whether it's you know, when I started this Ron John Jones wasn't JP. So, you know, being the first person to to be able to hand John Jones is is is I legitimate loss is is huge motivator. And that's definitely something. That's gonna summit my legacy, obviously, financially and career wise. It's going to propel me that's going to submit my legacy. People are always gonna talk about that. But at the end of the day, this whole journeyman has been about being the world champion, it it. That's all it's been about. It's been about for that one moment in time. You know, who knows how long it lasts those long. Keep it. But my goal is is to get it. And and how that Bill wrapped around my waist by Dana white, and and to here in new, and that's what my motivations. It's not personal John. It's not this. This is strictly. This is strictly my dream. This is what I've been pushing for since I was seventeen. I've heard you talk about how you think you can be John Jones and all the stuff you said made so much sense to me. I thought it was brilliant. Some of the things you were saying, but I guess my question for you is it seemed like it was coming from a guy who's already thought about the game plan of fighting this guy like in other words when you got the announcement. You're fighting John Jones. I don't think you sat down said. All right, guys. Let's come up with I feel like you already had the game plan right in that assessment is something that you've been thinking about for a long time. This particular match up your. When Michael bisbee was getting ready to fight league rock hold or not. We was getting ready. Find air Silva, Michael business always wanted to fight here. So because he just felt like he had that that certain style that he felt matched up really well with Anderson Silva, and Michael talked about that a lot about how we thought that. He he could be the one to do it, regardless of how he did all these other fights, whatever losses this guy air, some beat back whatever he felt like he had the right style. And he was the right person to do it. And that's how I feel you know, John Jones I've been talking about John Jones sin probably since June. You know, I've been this isn't an accident that ended up here. And I'm not surprised, you know, I know that everyone's kind of pretending like, I'm being gifted something. And that I'm just you know, I it was just up in the air knowing what was going to be like I knew I was gonna fight Jonjo the same as I got beating Ozdemir that was the whole motivation in fighting to mirror. What I didn't wanna fight that early. I want. I I wanted. A little bit of a break. But I also knew the John Jones is probably going to become a back, and I wanted to position myself at a place to where I was going to get that. And being the number two in the world at the time, it almost guarantees it. And there wasn't a whole bunch of clear contenders. So I've been thinking about John Jones since since you know, June. Dan, Tom or fight analysts? What do you have for Anthony Smith? Hey, Anthony, another good reason. Why it seems that a twenty eight teen was good year? It looks like you've got your black belt Brazilian jujitsu. Correct me if I'm wrong. I did I did. Awesome, man. Thank me. A huge was a huge accomplishment for me that was was one of the proudest moments of ever had. I know that people talk a lot about my ground game. How don't have one? And and whatever, but you know, like, we're not doing ju jitsu when we're fighting. You know, like, I'm I I can separate the two and a lot of people can't do that. Or don't do that in and Maija jitsu game in the fight way different than it is in the key. But I I mean, it's real easy to look up my jitsu credentials. I mean, I've never entered a tournament. Not in not medalled. You know what I mean? I just wanted to Chicago open and and the whole open division. So it's not like, I can't grapple. It's just a lot of times. She's not too. Yeah. No, definitely. I think you have underrated grappling. And that's something. I'm willing to stand by putting a writing anytime. I cover you Anthony. But when when I was coming across that photo was on your Twitter. And I noticed you Twitter didn't have the blue checkmark anymore. And I couldn't find your Instagram we victimized by some kind of social media thing or what happened there, man. No. So we changed my we change my Twitter handle because I wanted the problem that we run into all my all my handles were different. So I wanted I wanted a little bit more continuity like I wanted my Instagram handle in my Twitter handle tobacco. And so my life changed when it changed by Twitter handle, it it took away my verification, so honestly, give shit about that. So my managers working on it with Twitter. They're trying to figure there. It'll be back shortly just takes time. So I lost checkmark, which is which is whatever. But I actually got a three day Dan on Instagram. So I should be. Nice. Everybody's gonna know who who you are soon enough. Even even the Casuals last one for me, Anthony, I I don't want to stir things up, and I know fighters ever go no fighters ever, go into a fight one hundred percent. But I do remember on the desk when this was kind of being floated loosely in the post fight UFC two thirty two which by the way, you killed it on the desk, sir. But I do remember you saying something about you wanted to you know, he'll up a few things can you elaborate on that? And and do we have anything to worry about for for your March date with Jones? No, no, no, man. I'm good. I I tore a tourist small ligament, and my wrist in those Demere fight just, you know, they'll do hits hard, you know. And it's it's just from punching. You know, I was in a cast all up until two days before I went on a desk. I was in cast up until my Arp for my for my thumb all the way to my armpit. But I got it off in well with the role that we we went through all the testing, and and all that stuff. And I'm good to go. All right. Anthony will hey, man. I hope you have a safe camp. And I guess we'll be seeing a few weeks for of C two thirty five. Congratulations, you deserve it. And I can't wait to see this fight. So thanks for doing things. We're doing our show is always no worries many time. I think it'd be in Vegas towards the end of the month. So maybe I'll start by be cool to hang out with you guys person into don't hang out. Yeah. We'd love that man. All right. We'll keep in touch. We'll see we can get in here. We'd love to have you you take care. All right. Take care. Anthony. We'll see you. Solid, dude. Very. Yeah. How about that twenty eight finishes out of thirty one win? Yup. Aggressive. Geez, man. Like. Us. No, you got your hands full. All right. Let's finish up with good to bake is. We got a great question here. This one could be all over the place. I don't think this one we're going to be combining and agreeing five thousand three hundred sixteen votes came in. Let's go Weaver's. All right. Most people wanna see Jones and Cormie a and then Habib versus McGregor and then third place newness versus cyborg and in fourth place. It's other. But here's the question rematch is the theme if you could only pick one rematch guys to see this year. What is it? Dan Tom leadoff. I'm surprised here. A obviously you said so yourself other came in the least votes, which usually other does right guy. That's maybe not a surprise. But what came in third in the least of these aided options was my pick newness. I I think that's the only one that makes the most sense, you know. You know, the other guys have other options, and I think we could live without seeing those fights happen, but who else to cyber gonna face and Nunez? She does have to belt. So that technically means she has most off more options and most champions, but even her I don't think there's a big line banging at the door bantamweight. I think that needs to be run back. So I got newness cyborg out. All right. This is the way I look at it. A beep and Connor just doesn't make sense to me. There wasn't anything in that first bite that made me say I gotta feed that again right away. Cormet jones. I've seen it. I could live without it. Okay. Cyborg Nunes, one amended at to defend her other belt. So I'm okay with that. I'm gonna go with other. Here's what I think. It's perfect timing for the the Connor d as matchup. We're always talking about how it hangs out in the wing. Let's do it now to settle it. Now, I thought you were going to go Connor Halloween. You would have came what? What? But I know that everybody would call me out and say, aren't you the guy that says we need to protect these titles, and this and that I would have loved to have seen it at featherweight. Yeah. I thought you were going to say Derek losers gone. All right. So listen, if it's Hobie MacGregor my phone came. But if it's website McGrane are sorry if it's even McGregor. It's tons of traffic where the website the show blows up with listeners. There's nothing like having Connor fight. But act can't say is Jones the Cormie from me. But here I have a whole different take all it's because Cormie is going to retire soon. So all these other fighters like they're in their late twenties early thirties. Like, I feel like we have time maybe cyborg is hinted towards hey, I want to start a family someday. So maybe there's a little bit of on the clock there. But let's say DC extends his deadline self imposed deadline March nineteen or March twentieth. When he turns forty I don't think we'll get pass international fight week. And I want to see them. However, my caveat is it's got to be at heavyweight. Yeah. I was gonna ask you. What are you gonna do when they sit there, and they're talking smack again, we've heard it so many times. No, what are they? Nearly can say, yeah. Yeah. Had the cut to get to you. Now. I'm happy Olga my shoulder. Now, I'm happy and content. And you know, now, this this is the big boy title, he can spin it in some sort of a fashion. Look at them skinny let you say anything he wants to. It's a whole different call me when you're ready that goes the way out with look at that. It's tough I want I want to argue against it. I want to say that that that your option has the least grounds for justification on paper. But the results don't say that do they came in number one. Yeah. Four but said Jones and Cormie and then up even Connors just because those guys have I mean Russia in Ireland. I can't believe injured yourself doing a promo for another fight to other guys the fight. You know, what I was going to declare myself about eighty percent healthy on the shoulder. And that little movement of whatever I did the Kamala, I think so that hurt, but you know, they are all they're all great fights. But I feel like my only argument really stems with the Cormet deadline. You know, if it wasn't for the deadline. I don't know. I don't know why would say newness cyborg. Because it was definitive. And the problem is I wanna man, I I didn't really want a super fight. I'll take them, you know. But but now I want noon as go back and fight VERA. And if she wants cyborg and rest and the newness can come back. But when does it ever go that way, there's always injuries or contract? Hold out. So I know it's not likely but Jones and cormier man, I love Blad, bad blood and think about Jones, I mean, he would make history by being another champ champ one, and then cormier would really make history because that's what stops people from calling him. The goat is the losses to Jones. So now have a win over Jones. I mean, this that would be really really historical. So that that's why would that one. Hey, thanks to all of our readers of the website in the listeners of the show for participating. That's our beloved junky nation, and with that, I guess we gotta start closing things up. So first of all shout out to Steven Morocco. He lined up Anthony Smith nag -nificant dominant grey is he is making. Efficient. And by the way, we gotta get that guy on because he had an interesting article regarding Brock Leser, all the things I was saying is because I read a Steven Morocco article, and he has to pay that two hundred fifty thousand dollar fine to the NSA see before he can even fight cornea. And I believe he's closing in having satisfied the one year penalty that you saw two imposed on them when he tested positive. For performance enhancing drugs at you'll see two hundred. I know some of you are saying wait a minute that was eighteen months ago. It's because when he stepped outside of the U of C the clock stopped, and you have to be continuously tested by you Sada, otherwise, you don't complete, you know, your one year term while you're punishment, or whatever you wanna call it. So that's that. All right. Thanks, the jumbo. Josh did an excellent job. 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Hey, everyone. It's finally over and complete all ten episodes of the addictive eye opening mind-bending podcast series, the end of the world with my buddy. Josh clark. I just throw in my buddy. It's ready for you to binge everyone. It's all out there in the world. Alternate episodes, really deep Hetty stuff. I'm very proud of my my partner in crime writ stuff, you should know for creating and really pulling off this podcast all on his lonesome. He did a great job everyone. It's called the end of the world with Josh Clark. And check it out benge all ten episodes right now. Listen and subscribe at apple podcast or on the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. Everyone and welcome to movie crush sans. More lagoda. Introducing the jazz program on NPR sweaty ball. How you doing? I'm great, man. How do you feel about jazz music? I love jet you. Yeah. Yeah. Kidding? It's okay. Yeah. I'm I'm a beatnik jazz head jazz had smoking them jazz cigarettes as Gretz drinking, cheap wine. Cheap wine. Yeah, I love jazz via always well, not always got into jazz in college. I like, my my knowledge is not absurdly deep of genre. But same it's there's some do. Okay. Youthful stuff out there you ever received. The Kim burns epic Nunca mentoring. Now, those are two long. You've never seen any convergence. I've seen the Ken burns affect or they you know, zoom into the photograph. Well, nuno's holes this week. All right. If I was going to watch one Ken burns, doc, should it be like a war one or jazz or baseball bizzare baseball. And that make that up. I don't yet. But don't watch baseball. You don't like, basically. In. Sentencing you to fucking fourteen hours on bass. Okay. Rally all the jazz jazz seems like a fun one. It's a it's great so much wrapped up in the culture, and it's such like an intensely America ground, art form. Yeah. I mean music guide probably recommend that. If you don't want quite such a long thing that I would recommend Lewis and Clark because it's shorter. Okay. But just watch. I will I'll watch it again. I will say this Ken burns, you seen those masterclass thing that they're advertised all over the internet. Yeah. They were advertisers on stuff. You should know. How cool. Yeah. No. It's great. I've seen a couple of seen the one with the guy from the French laundry, the chef and also Gordon Ramsay as good one. Yeah. Yeah. You can take these. But can burn has has one on filmmaking. And I'd never seen what he looks like he has the goofiest little haircut. He has like bangs like straight across the top. Oh, yeah. It's a whole thing. Yeah. That's the real. Conversely. Now, I'm not gonna poke it burns. No, he's obviously, very very important filmmaker, and he's he wrote my interesting haircut choice. Probably looks at me. What's up spike in your hair up in your late forties? Come on, and do whatever you want. Brian grazer? No, no your Bryant. Let me tell you about Pete who loved hockey and always wanted to play in the NHL Pete played since he was three and begged his mom to let him stay on the ice by some nights. He even slept in his hockey skates. Pete practiced and practiced unto one day when he was forty seven Pete realized he just wasn't that good. So he threw his skates in the trash. But then he heard how gyco proud partner of NHL good save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch. So it all worked out. All right now, we're even start with your holes. And here's what I did know. I did a Sifi addition. Oh, cool. I might I might farewell here. Supposedly loading it in your favor. However, I didn't try and stump you, but I obviously didn't put Star Wars, and Harry Potter on their Harry Potter is not Sifi, my friend that is magical realism. Sorry. I don't want to taint your favorite, don't ruffle. My Harry Potter feathers. Wanna change your favorite thing? I now. I know. No, I any to be focused here. All right here. We gala got my little bracket drawn out my column ready. So like, I said, no, I tried to pick movies, they're all very popular films. But I didn't just lob any softballs your way, really. I'm ready. All right, ready, number one Star Trek to the wrath of Khan. The one where he says Khan. That's a no no it is. Well, sure, he says kind, but did you see it? Maybe that's I saw the remake with continent with Benedict. Cumberbatch come Cumberbatch number one. No one's ever said that I know number two, no. The Robertson meccas. Matthew, mcconaughey Jodie Foster film contact. Yes. Of course. So that in the theaters love that movie. All right. I figured. Yeah. Number three. This is a bit of a softball. Steven Spielberg's, a I artificial intelligence. Yeah. Yeah. I liked it. I know it kinda got got dragged a little bit. Yeah. And the endings a little strange because it was the Kubrick thing right there. It was like half Kubrick kind of took it over in Spielberg did up a little bit. I think you know. I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. Shined it up. Yeah. I mean, it went from Kubrick Spielberg, and they're pretty different thing. I'm remote that movie is kind of a bummer. It's like a real sad movie. Yeah. You know what? I only saw it once, and that's probably for a reason totally because most Spielberg I can watch a couple of times over. Sure at least. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, these a formerly fantastic filmmaker like he makes really good choices in. Let's say formerly formerly like his. Yeah. The latest like he's he's made some continued ready player one. Not that good. It was just kind of stuffed with references. I got bored. All right. Speaking of stuffing. No. Yeah. Oh, but goodness gracious. You gotta move on. All right, number four strange days. Kathryn bigelow. I adore that movie with a kind of early VR kind of sex tape kind of stuff right now. Yeah. It's all about like, recreating other people's memory as a little bit ahead with some really cool. No it holds. It's a really good movie with is it refines, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Really cool better than hackers which I think probably came out that year too, right? It's just like that cyberpunk kind of Robert Redford. Yeah. Let's hackers with Robert Redford. That's amazing. Know, Robert, Redford, computer movie, the law, nor man sneakers sneakers. See now that's fair. But doesn't picturing hacker is a movie with all of these kind of teen heartthrob of the moment. Like, I remember it's like one of the movies that does such a bad job of depicting, the idea of the internet. You know, it's just it's so funny dummies idea like some Mike sure they literally like zoomed through these digital buildings, but it's such a dated silly movie. Yeah, they're peeking behind the ones and zeroes a now, exactly. And it's also their fashion is so like absurdly, you know, cliche. Like, we've got like what's his name? Matthew Lillard has like weird red dreadlocks say, my friends, leather, pants and stuff. Yeah. That's why I laugh because the idea of Robert Redford being in that movie. Amazing Elia do say Matthew little Lillard and dreadlocks. All right. Number five. You've seen this. Here's a softball for for. You know, twelve monkeys wonderful wonderful Terry Gilliam, why some of these are on here. Because quite honestly, it's hard to stump. You sifi? I was looking around. It was like no seen all decipher you could if you were going to do what you could do it with like some the day the stood Stiller's medicine. There's a fair. All right. Number six. Logan's run have not okay. Have not. And I've always wanted to. And I think there was talk that Nicolas winding Refn believe who are really did drive was going to do a remake of Logan's run at sounded interesting. Yeah. Wow. All right. Number seven under the skin. You know, the scarlet Johann I didn't finish watching it. Okay. And I know cool. It's just real slow. It was a real slow burn it kind of lost me. And I had I had rented or something like that. I didn't finish it. But really cool soundtrack. And I need to give another shot which wasn't in the right head space for it. I think I Gotcha. All right. Number eight. And this is specific Salinas the solder bird Clooney version. I fell asleep during that when to Chuck so where we counting these kind of. I paid money to see it in the theater. Well, but I I definitely fell asleep during it. I think I just got some dental work done. And I I had a head some like muscle relaxers. Tarkovsky remake. I fell asleep hardcore. Yeah. Weirdly specific memory. I know very very very specifically. Remember? Know what to do there? Then. I mean, you paid money went and saw it yet dental work. I think it's a no I I will not I couldn't tell you anything about him. So well, I saw the whole thing. I couldn't tell you about it. And it's fair number nine dark city. I love dark city, that's one of my favorite modern scifi movies number ten. I think heavy with this one star man with Jeff bridges now that came up recently in conversation. I don't remember. Who's who brought it up? Is it good? Is it kind of kind of is it good? Oh, I imagine it's dated. I mean, it's a bit of a cheat because it's more room romance. But it is about an alien they're Nalen that's thought there was an alien alien does. But he's like Jeff bridges yet. Okay. He doesn't act like jeopardy is this really capex. Remember k Pax? I didn't see that. I know the movie. Yeah. That's with the creep. Right. It's the creep. That's how he shall not be named number eleven. I have a feeling he's done. Sure. Seems like forever. Oh, yeah. I think such as he keeps making the wrong move. Oh, weird thing. He didn't character that he blasted on the internet the guy from the cards. Yeah. The one he got fired from. Yeah. He did a bit in character. Like, I didn't even watch it. I thought I just read the headline start to say, really unfortunate. And I didn't see. All right eleven I think we just talked about it in the last episode another earth. Oh, no, no. That's after this is another another with Marlene movie. I like to definitely I like her a lot. Yeah. Me too. She has a. She fits in these Sifi projects. I think there's an other worldliness about her somehow, but it's also like pretty grounded, and it sort of Sifi is sort of on the fringes of it, and it's never like overtly Sifi, but it's sort of conceptual point around. I dig it. Yeah. Number twelve equilibrium. I don't think so two thousand two Christian bale. Now, I haven't seen it either. But it was on all the list of scifi movies. You should see that. You probably have not seen it. Right. Well, I I have not seen it. So check it out. No. It's tied six two six. I might I might might be the one that that makes me no often grazing. So I see some see some yeses inter future. Okay. Starting with the fountain. Yes. I had to think about that. Because that's another kind of slow plotting weird one that I maybe didn't watch all of. But now, I think I think I've seen it all of it. I think you have to sunshine. Yes. That's boil Danny. Boyle fact, I remember you talking about that asks very room. I know I think you're gonna totally snag this. Okay. Snow piercer is next. I love snow peer source. She saw that on June. Ho, I believe what is it? Not Vietnamese Korean director. Yeah. It's not the guy who did old boy, but they're sort of buddies. And it's the guy who did that movie the host. I wanna say which is like a monster movie. I have loved snow piercer. I thought it was so cool it well design and all so good. Yeah. It looked so great. The whole thing was great design is and how John Hoult. Yeah. He did the host. He did. Oh, he did okra. That's right with our buddy. John Ranjan Ronson. I didn't know that you memories of murder, maybe emerge. Movie called mother and the host the hostess great. Well, he's super talent. He's amazing. Yeah. No, really, really great. All right. I might get you this next one number sixteen free, Jack. No. But there's a really good. How did this get made episode where they talk about it? And it just sounds like the most absurd movie ever of all time and make Jackson Atlanta years ago. Is that right before the Atlanta was a big interesting. Yeah. Aren't there like garbage can fire kind of street scenes that probably was down chairman? Yeah. And Emilio Estevez Nic. Yeah. Free, jack. It's like you sort of sort of got a quantum leap quality to jump into other people's bodies or something like that. Yeah. I think free Jack is a verb that. Yeah. That's I don't know. I don't know. All right. I I definitely have you this because you already alluded to it. I think invasion of the body snatchers or no you did Dave. You're sit still the original. Yeah. With Donald Sutherland, isn't there an even older one them? I don't know. I think that Donald Sutherland is a is a remake and that was like in the seventies. And then there's the one I was talking. I have not that's kind of open their mouth. And make the weird moaning faces or whatever that's a very famous theme. Eight favor with three to play. Okay. Number eighteen Johnny pneumonic. There's another. How did this get made about that one? And I saw that one of the theater. Yes. Henry Rollins is in it like super buff, Henry Rollins. All right plays. Like a scientist. Is there? Any other Henry owns now? I guess he was a skinny kid. He used to be eating needs to be as buff as eve now. He was. Yeah. Number nineteen you've seen this primer. Yeah. Yeah. With the time machine. No, you have secured it in your favor s with only one ago. Boy doesn't matter. Okay. I wanna know have you ever seen Westworld film? No all right now series that I know it's totally different. So eleven to nine. Good job pretty close to fifty fifty again. That's usually how it goes. This was a this was me trying purposely to kinda stump you, well, you did a good job. You also gave me reminded music things that I would like to see and like I really I really do want to watch the body snatchers. That's an interesting looking moving. Yeah. Seventies. Sci-fi? It's always great. If you haven't checked out my new series the end of the world with Josh Clark. The now's a great time to start the holidays are over the doldrums of winter had begun. And there's no better time to explore existentialist dread than right now. But wait, there's more to the end of the world than that. Yes. The series is about existential risks. But it's also about hope the threats that are coming our way that could wipe humans right out of existence. Could also be just the thing that makes us band together. In a way that humanity never has before in the end of the world. 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And if you're if you're new to the show, I'm sorry, if you made it this far even talking about holes and. Taints? Nobody said anything about attain dill now Chuck that was choice you made. Oh, my buddy, my buddy Wesley who's a big stuff, you should know fan. And listen to all the other shows as well said, it's a real shock to hear you say at bombs. To see my true self coming true, self. Yeah. A lot of people love it. No, the stuff, you should know self still your true self. And honestly, I like doing the shows where you can't swear I liked to allied being able to swear. But it's it's sort of like, you know, it's a challenge. It's a challenge. It's sort of like Will Smith rap. Yeah. I'm used to it on stuff, you should know by now. I don't feel like a second nature. Yeah. And you know, what that allowed us to get very broad fan base. It really did family teachers school children. Absolutely same same with ridiculous history. Like, I think some people really like the fact that it's not. So you know that crass, but like I love swearing, but there's something about it not being a part of the equation that makes it a little bit comforting in some way. Like, I don't know. It's interesting. Yes. Sometimes it's funny. I will just a nude as much as I do. But I do when we're recording stuff, you should know. I will just because it fits so. Well, and a so funny, I will make it very dirty crass joke as we're recording. Yeah. Just and then we laugh and say BBB, obviously cut that. Right. But I decided to say, of course, sometimes you got to you can't sit on that stuff. Now. It's comedy gold. It really is. All right. Are we up with fucking we're up with fucking? This is gonna be our last segment because I'm going to go through a lot. Of these and some of these if I read them last time, I I don't remember. And I'm not going to keep a spreadsheet on F bombs. That'd be a spreadsheet though. Michael Scanlon says go Succoth fuck exactly how does one Succoth book. Donnie, Darko Donnie Darko classic a bunch of people said that got a read the planes trains and automobiles last time. So I'm not going to go did Aaron surreal step says for weddings and funerals. The first lines of the movie Hugh Grant upon realizing he woke up late. Oh fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Yep. I remember somebody my mom, maybe was talking about how like the first word in that movie is fuck and how that was somehow very shocking to her at the time really wanna meet your mom. No, she's pretty cool. Laura. Brown ex you says, I am not drinking any fucking merlot from sideways. Yeah. Emily, we're gonna go through the. Zander pain films. It's gonna be our jam starting sideways, and we're so busy we've been talking about this for like two and a half months really have not been able to do it. What's that one the black and white one? Oh, the bresca Brassica. I have not seen that. I really want to skid. Yeah. Yeah. I mean will forte. I think is a super super underrated actor. Yeah agree. He's silly. As can be an a love it. But he's a really great. I love that. We're kind of getting back into. I maybe this is not something that that stopped happening. But like like, Robin Williams, for example, total amazing comedian that turns out had incredible acting chops, and we're kind of seeing more and more of that these days. Yeah. Like, what's your name Melissa McCarthy's in that movie that got some not I don't think she got nominated? She did she did get nominee straight. She is just starting to do like some of us work, probably while he was the first real dramatic PC's ever done. Many of those goofball gross out comedies after the excessive bridesmaids or whatever that I think she probably got typecast as that for this lobby, you know, eventual balance that out the app forward, and she's talked about that in interviews. How Hollywood it's so difficult to escape from that image where everyone wants you to be the goofy pratfall kind of unattractive woman or whatever. That's that's how she lives. Her words. Kind of. Right. She's kind of had to really do some work to push through that especially when it's hard for the artists when they're paying you like a lot of money to be in those big comedies like it's hard to turn down when she'd been an extra for a long time. And of course, getting big financial opportunity. You kinda like need to jump on that you do if secure yourself then start doing the art house stuff. Yeah. For sure it hasn't come here yet. And I can't quite remember the title, but I'm very excited to see me to Tracy FOX from inglorious bastards fucking duck said it gets every time Susanna. I'm sorry, Susie Hannah is a little bit of. Eyeball trick a portmanteau. Nice bust in that Susie Hannah from Jerry Maguire. Let's go right now. Let's go to the zoo Ray zoo, you know, the fucking zoo is closed you said fuck. The kid is a little kid of the spiky hair. That was me doing my little kid. That's good kid was cute. He was cute. He's like now, he's probably a terror running around in Hollywood Boulevard hopped up on goofballs hopped up on the Binny's. Kerri Mason says the almost f-bomb from aunt may an Spiderman homecoming that was a great moment. I like these variations on the theme. Scott k hill says they fuck you at the drive thru. Okay. They fuck you at the drive through. I can't quite catch that one. That was Joe Pesci in lethal weapon three. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not sticking. Yes. That is totally with was let me see Ernie Weaver upon seeing the chompers in galaxy quest. Well, fuck that. PC thirteen. Well, it said it was over dub for the PG version anxious thing, but it was hilarious said as an f-bomb. Let's go with. Well. Let's go with Hudson from aliens. This is Simon Mushin. That's great. That's just fucking great man know, what the Fokker we supposed to do. We're in some real shit now man games overmanned games fucking over. Yeah. The NIA heard improv that game over part really thought. I read somewhere I buy that. Yeah. Man. I'm so sad about him. So really is sad. Oh, what a bummer. He seem like a good guy. He's like everything that I've read about. And he seemed like a genuinely kind person I have recommended this before. But if you listen to the Marc Maron interview with Bill Paxton, and I listen to that. And I was like I want to be his neighbor in friend. Exactly. He's such a good, dude. Your buddy Paul f Tompkins he had on the show. Does a great character on comedy bang bang, where he plays that character that he plays in Titanic or you're just talking about? Oh, just looking for the heart of the core. Pretty hefty him this past weekend. Oh, really? Yeah. I love him. He's such a vibrant weird guy. Yeah. His laugh is infectious. He's great. All right. Don, mild friend from New York, by way of Connecticut. She says, no, we're not gonna fucking day Stonehenge. Derek Saint Helen's of spinal tap was talking about like Stonehenge that was in serious danger of being trodden upon by dwarf. That's right. Yeah. So tiny little Stonehenge and L how don's children Stonehenge Nathan haunted moon. Movies so much fun and saw spinal tap in concert back. Then what at the FOX theater or? In they did an album and a tour, and I will say this. I love spinal tap the movie so so much, obviously, that's why I went and the concert was not fun to be at. So is it just kind of like too much of a good thing. All in a row like you need, the actual dialogue and not just songs. But they did bits, and it was just like. Wasn't fun. It was one of those things where it wasn't funny enough to be a comedy show and the music is the music. Yeah. I don't know, man. It just didn't feel right. That's fair. I can totally picture what you're saying. Yeah. Like still get creeped out when anything about that Stella Carlson. R O pal says Mary Steenburgen from step burger steppers what amid step burder, burgers mcgurn hamburgers. Stepbrothers? I'm going to open a burger place called step burgers like wall. Burgers, open up right next to the wall, burgers, only need to step sibling. Maybe my mom will have a baby. It's never too late Stellan says what the fucking fuck they got a lot of up likes because I think just seeing the lovely and sweet Mary Steenburgen drop f bombs. Oh, what is this from from step burgers? Oh amateurs is. She still married to Ted Danson because they got divorced. They got divorced in. No in curb your enthusiasm. Yeah. I never watched that less. Oh, man. No, no. He's he's with. Larry's ex wife in. Wow. Man. I got to see that. So good. All right. Let's do five more of these Seth Johnston Nolan. No, this is one of your favorites. Marla from from fight club. You should go and say, no, you know. Oh, yeah. Haven't probably haven't been fucked like that since grade school. That's it. That's shock value. Shock and awe line yelled, David fincher. I can't remember if that was in the book or not if that was in the Chuck panic book. Well, it was a different line. Oh is that? Right. Was it worse than the book? Yeah. I do remember the line. I want you to have my abortion. I thought that was the line that there was in the movie as well. Oh, yeah. I think that was on the book though, I can't remember if the grade school and was in the book, the book has a pretty different direction actually with the with the plot. Books. Yeah. He kind of stopped being interested. But I was really really into those for a while. Yeah. Good books. Yeah. For sure quick quick reads voice. This is one of my favorite F bombs ever everyone. Brandon sir ago says from blue velvet Dennis hopper. Fuck that shit. Yeah. Paths blue ruin it's great. We do silence of the lambs as anyone said, we did that was that was a thing. That was definitely a thing. Yes. That was one of the first ones that's one of the first ones. Jason LV from anchorman. The legend of Ron burgundy go fuck yourself sandiego, and then smile and dead is. Boy that character kills me. It's a good one, you know, but never goes away. Oh my gosh. Chuck, I got boy do I have a podcast wreck for you. Yeah. Yeah. The Ron burgundy podcast coming soon. That's right. It's I've heard such good things about it. Sounds like delightful. This. Gosh. All right. Two more. From blade. Robert Lamm are Robert Lamm. We should have gotten him in here to do this reading some other fuckers always trying to skate uphill. Tennessee blade. I either. But that's a really interesting image. I'm picturing that in my mind now. Yeah, it's like some people are like they're just like one thing about things the wrong way. That's a good expression. Yeah. I like I skate a Bill ice skate uphill ice skating. Hard on a flat surface, let alone. Uphill. Can I skate pretty good? You really? Yeah. I went to a hockey phase back post college interesting. Okay. Where I played like pick up hockey mountain worked at the rank. Yeah. So skated around a lot play a little pick up. Cool. Yeah. I was not good at hockey. But I learned how to skate. Okay. Let me see David mills from sixteen candles. They fucking forgot my birthday. Oh, all right. We'll finish with that. When everyone that's a sad one. Yeah. This is good. There's still hundreds more to go. We're into the F bombs, and no you are too and Nolde you have anything else. No, no. He's are fun though. Because it's it. Yeah. And this is a good segment check. This was a stroke of genius on your about that. Well, okay, a bit crafts. But that's fair. Yeah. All right. Bye. See? Hi, my name's Josh, David fine. I'm the host of the fatherly podcast here with my co host Jason gay dads question questions about what legal cannabis means for our kids who designs. Awesome playgrounds. Why our kids don't think we're funny true? 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