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John & Ken Show Hour 4 (05/04)

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John & Ken Show Hour 4 (05/04)

"Equity is the call of this moment. In order to meet this moment we have to recognize. I have made mistakes and we met the moment. It's a stair step. He's trash the throughput critics out there. Promoting partisan political power grabs moving our way towards where the puck is going not gonna change course just because of a few naysayers and enduring staters. Our north star continues to be equity doors wide. Open now you like it or not gavin newsom. Who's doing great jobs. I cannot tell you how lucky we are to have gavin newsom as our governor and it will end soon. He's a bump. Let's allow ourselves to dream of brighter. Days ahead what. Update on the rico against governor newsom from john and ken on day when the california republican party released a new poll that showed the recall is tied. They say forty five. Forty five ten percent undecided. Now this was done by an outfit called mclaughlin and associates supposedly they pulled for schwarznegger back two thousand and three in his run to replace gray davis. I don't that makes them credible or not but they have this race up for grabs forty-five yes forty five. No fifty two percent of voters say newsom puts his political ambitions before californians fifty percent think the state is on the wrong track. And the big shock here. The ethnic group most likely to support the recall our latino voters forty nine thirty nine. Why is it says here are pretty much split. Forty-seven forty-five and latino voters who took the survey in spanish vote. Yes fifty three percent. Oh boy wow they have really soured and if you think oh. They lost jobs. They lost a lot of jobs. Couldn't get unemployment checks and kids in school. They had to take care of their kids at home and at school was like a babysitter for some and the virus ripped through their neighborhoods far worse than anywhere else. So why would they feel in warm towards newsom while he's sitting at the french laundry which by the way that polls that's the big issue was the big issue there mesh reasons to Recall newsom fifty four percent the french laundry scandal. That's what led to big petition signings. After that was the homeless crisis school lockdowns unemployment benefit fraud. Scandal we're going to play you a new ad from a man. We're about to talk to again. This was newsome's opponent in two thousand. Eighteen in the governor's race businessman. John cox from down in the san diego area. Here is his new thirty second ad california's choice beauty east. John cox grew up with nothing. Made himself a remarkable success. California's falling off a cliff. I- taxes unaffordable cost even elon musk. Gavin's mismanagement of california is inexcusable. We need big beasely. Changes in sacramento. I'll make him recall the beauty. Me the nicest smartest beast in california john cox and to show that he went on a meet the beast but tour which featured a one thousand pound live bear. Let's get Johncock welcome how are ya john. Great to be with you guys again We're going to call this guy that's pretty boy and We're gonna put in a beast who's going to do something about the miserable conditions of people's lives in this state We got great weather. Just lousy. Political management sacramento. You think he would have been elected if he wasn't a pretty boy to any office. I don't know it actually helped obviously and of course it also helps that. He's nancy pelosi's nephew and he also had the billionaire. Getty family bankrolling his business and his political activities. Why so what. You tried to tell us your team when you were running against him that this guy was an empty suit and then i think people now have found out about that. I mean let's face it. I got millions of votes but not enough. Because i wasn't a politician. I wasn't a celebrity but now people need see what he's done with this pandemic. I mean all you gotta do is compare california to florida. I've got nephews. That are in orlando and they've been going to school since last august with a real teacher in the classroom disney worlds but open since last. July disneyland just opened up on friday. You're you're right about the the latino vote. because people have lost jobs. They lost opportunity. They've lost their businesses. They've been crushed their kids. Not being able to go to school nuisance. Kids have been going to school just fine because he has the money to go to private school but Normal parents that don't have all that money can't choose a school. We've gotta get school choice. We know who's in control the school. It's the union bosses. It's not the parents. We cannot put the parents charge. Here what do you notice about californians compared to twenty eighteen. What is different about campaigning. In talking to them now they now realize what damage politicians like newsom can do to their lives. He shut him out of church. He destroyed their small businesses. They're small restaurants that they worked in and sweat it and and totally you know had committed themselves to and he destroyed but he let strip clubs and pot shops open he lets home depot cosco and amazon make a fortune but the little guy has been absolutely crushed in this whole thing as you guys know. I'm a small business man. I can't imagine what would have happened. My business my business has been run out of business overnight. That would have just devastated. My family and i and i think that's what's really driving. This recall if you had been elected in two thousand eighteen in the pandemic occurred while you were governor. You've taken a more florida like approach to this. Maybe absolutely protect the vulnerable quarantine the sick but don't quarantine the healthy Dissenters in florida. Certainly one of the protect people. You did a much better job than andrew cuomo and giving newsom in protecting the elderly. But he didn't quarantine the healthy he let people stay in business and and live their lives and they lex. Kids go to school in front of teacher. Our kids have lost a full year of school. And i know yeah i know. I just think it's shocking like here in la county. There are no teachers teaching in person. Not none of them in la. The deaths hit zero literally zero on sunday and and we're now in the in the yellow tier everything should be wide open like florida at. I mean the cases have dropped ninety eight percent and the teachers will not teach and do some does nothing to force the issue. I it's fiber gassing. Costco workers had to go to work. Grocery workers had to go to work. Police firefighters had to go to work healthcare workers who put their lives on the line. They're just wonderful. They had to go to work whereas if the teachers can't go to work and you know this is all about political power. This has nothing really to that. The realities of the disease. This is about exercising political power. And let me tell you the union bosses. Let the last thing on. We got to get these kids in school but more importantly guys we've gotta fix so many other things that are going on in the state this recall is not just about the pandemic. it's about housing homelessness. Electricity water Fires crime the homicide rate is skyrocketing in our major cities. They're not doing a thing about homelessness and the tax burden. Our tax burden is just outrageous. Florida runs their entire state government with out an income tax. They don't have anywhere near the tourism or our agriculture or natural resources. That california has flora. The doesn't have silicon valley. or hollywood. how were they able to run. Their government without an income tax and ours is the highest income tax in the country. It's just mismanagement guys and this recall is gonna give us an opportunity to really run towards the changes that we need to really fix the state with the gift from over the weekend. Seventy six thousand prison. Inmates are now eligible for early. Release yet we have tons of money to pay for healthcare for undocumented people who broke the law to come here but we don't have any money to be able to protect people. Listen the the people of the state. I as i said got the message during this pandemic that the politicians don't work for them and the french laundry was such a gift guys. I was there this afternoon. By the way i'm in san francisco. Right now he were a radical one. Thousand dollars lunches. Yeah no no. I didn't i wouldn't let me in. I had i had to do a press conference right across the street. You could get an appetizer for three twenty five but you know i. It was so instructive that that dinner was all about these celebrating. A birthday of the lobbyists. It wasn't even gavin newsom birthday. It wasn't the pretty boys birthday. It was the the lobbyists birthday and newsom was attending to show his field to the To the lobbyists who let's face it. It's the lobbyists and the special interest groups. Actually call the tune in sacramento. We all know that but the french laundry really hit home so you think the vibe is different. Compared to twenty eighteen you got a different thing on one hundred percent. I mean let's face it in twenty eight team. We had three percents on employment The economy was going great. Thanks to the president and we were doing just fine as an economy today. The unemployment rate in the state is eight. nine percent businesses have been crushed. Kids are out of school and of course all the problems i talked about look at last year last august. We were being told in the twenty first century in california. We couldn't run our air conditioners because we didn't have enough electricity. This is third world kind of stuff and and he's gonna have us all driving electric cars. Where are we going to get the electricity for all of us to drive electric cars all right john by the way the the bear behaved itself. Today this is a well taken care of bear for all the peter people out there and for the animal rights people. I love animals. This is a bear that was raised in captivity was never in the wild. It couldn't be in the wild. It would never survive and it's been movies it's been it's been in commercials. It's a member of the screen actors. Guild a member of the union for performance. Okay so it's well taken care of all right. Don cox dot com to find out more. We'll be talking to you again. Leading up to the recall. Vote lubbock guys. Let's do it again. Thank you john. Cox candidate to replace gavin newsom. Who kicked off a tour today. Called meet the beasts bus tour comparing himself to gavin newsom. Who's beauty. John cox is going to be the beast for california problems. And yes debra mark. They brought along a one thousand pound. Live bear. you're okay with that explanation that it was it was a good gal. Wealthy couldn't survive in the wild fed. Holy mac i was just. I just saw it on tv. That's a big bear. it's a massive bear is just sitting there with everybody looking around. We got more coming up. John and ken. Kfi again certain. Axios is a political website. biden is considering naming. Garcetti ambassador to india. It's not a good place to go right now. You'll it's nicer than downtown. La it's an immediate. i hope Could be soon. he's done next year. That's the end of his. Yeah as mayor and he wants out because you know. La is a disaster zone. And it's not gonna get any better. the He's one of several candidates under consideration for the india posting. And there's gonna be other ambassadorships announced that our city could be in the running for but right now the buzzes garcetti. To india now their best of their ships are kind of a fun. Easy job right. Yeah you just go to cocktail parties and you say vacuous things and now like the but at one though. The trump gave to the woody johnson from johnson. Johnson pharmaceutical he got he got england and billard yet their research on my time in london surrey countries. You want. you'd love to be ambassador in paris or in england but the thing is our is bolting. He so desperately wants out after he destroyed the city. Well speaking of which. I almost thought this was a joke. A listener sent this last night. And then i saw the story this morning. It was only a couple of weeks ago where we both went. Are the proposal that the la unified. School district would extend the school year by two weeks. And we're like the kids lost a year of learning plus two weeks at pitiful other teachers rejected it. I'm cutting up. Give it extra five percent of teacher. Members responded seventy six percent opposed extending the school year and it would be zoom weeks. Of course it's not we're doing. They wouldn't even give two extras zoom weeks. Wow data i really don't care. This teacher's union president united teachers los angeles sesame. My art crews folks are exhausted. We have some great educators. That are doing amazing work. But i do recognize. We'd have lots of people during the course of this year. I don't want to downplay that. That's what she said about the if you don't return to the classroom have you gotten Many emails from teachers saying they're they're upset that they can't teach in person. I don't think we have a lot of la unified school district teachers teaching. We get teacher emails from other districts around southern california and they're always saying don't be with them. I'm back in the classroom or something so this seems to be an l. a. teacher phenomenon I think so. That's that's at least. The people respond to show. It's like a brainwashed cult. Isn't it i. None of them want to come in well. They belong to that group that we talked about earlier. The atlantic magazine article these far extreme liberal progressives who believe it's corona virus till the end there and they're never coming out of their bunkers there now anti education and then they wonder why so. Many parents want school choice. Why so many want charter schools and private schools and the right to go to any school. They want so now. They're going to search for other options to help students academically harmed and garcetti screaming every day about the kids city. Not being allowed in a real school. He's going to go off to. India is going to run and is going to run to india. That's book which is one of the few places that maybe a bigger disaster than los angeles right now. I guess he'd have to consume. Because if it's an open position they gotta fill it right. Yeah yeah well. Hey say it's active consideration. Who would be mayor for a year. I don't know there's probably some deputy point mike bond must be the city council president semi look at. I'll look that up immediately. Deputy mayor or probably i would. I don't know i well. We'll see we could find out. We got bored covered asir india. What a weiner. Johnny can't kfi. John and ken show john kobylt and ken chiampou. Kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app coming back three days. Well the moist line folks. You want to be one of them. You've got to leave a message. One eight seven seven moist eighty six one eight seven seven six six four seven eight eight six. Oh making some headlines this afternoon. Move over octo mom. We have a woman whose from molly who went to morocco and gave birth to nine babies nano mom non applets. No how do you fit nine. Babies in their caesarian section delivered five girls and four boys. A scan told her she had seven in there. But whoops surprise guys nine. Two of them were hiding. she must've taken way too. Many fertility drugs twenty five years old but it doesn't say you can't can't happen naturally. I guess nine eggs that dropped it. Seems like an american thing. Taken a bunch of fertility drugs. It doesn't seem like a thing that's done in africa. Well molly is the right. Place is an island off the coast of italy. I think it's it's actually bronco which is on the northern edge of. It's actually kind of wealthy. Let me see if i'm right there. she's no. I'm sorry i'm wrong. i'm wrong. I'm wrong. It's a landlocked country in west africa. Yeah i i thought so. What was i thinking of bali. It's out in the pacific poly a. It's a black woman. I'm looking at a picture. And that's why i thought she was african. When i saw this story yeah so there you go all right now. How now how does because applets all right because you can. You can get one egg. A month comes out of a mom and the sometimes can split into two babies and then like when you start getting into triplets by grouplets you you have to have multiple eggs drop which you know can happen. You can have an extra egg roll. Roll out the shoot. But how do you get nine eggs without without there being fertility drugs and write a this is. This is a west african country. That's probably poor. Dan to morocco to make sure she got better care. Yeah once the leaders in west. African country of mali is found out. She had seven kids in there. They said let's get a democracy where can get better care and she had nine. Sometimes you get the these freak multiple births with an older woman. Because they're more likely to be taking fertility drugs. Know they're getting to be thirty five or forty or something and they really want babies badly and they take the drugs and then something happens in a whole bunch comes out right and they say that you know usually when you have multiple births like this you often don't have the reach full-term but Looking at a picture all nine of them. I mean there are small but And they're obviously in the intensive care unit of the baby's ward there but the looking. Okay now we turn our attention to the bizarre story involving the end of the marriage. Bill melinda gates and the revelation today number one. They didn't have a pre-nup and when he married melinda gates he was already billionaire so there was already a lot of money there but the other thing that came up which has attracted attention today is a woman he dated before melinda by the name of an win blad. She's a venture capitalist. They dated in the eighties but they broke up. Nineteen nine hundred eighty seven the same year. He met melinda but apparently the two of them have stayed in touch in fact every year. Bill spends a weekend with an at her beach house on the outer banks of north carolina with some might consider to be an unusual arrangement and apparently his wife. Melinda didn't mind that he would leave for a week and spent his time with by the way and is married to. She's married to a san francisco. Private investigator edward klein. Who happens to be the brother of actor kevin klein. How's that for you. Know the thing is you're dealing with all genius people here and i think they have different kinds of relationships. Guess i. I don't think they have the same romantic additional think. It was just closeness right. In fact he called her to ask. What do you think if. I asked melinda to marry me. It was like his best friend kind of yeah and that can that can happen. Also i read that. He really got interested in his wife when she beat him at a puzzle. So the stuff that turns this crowd on intellectual challenges. Oh yes bill man. This is the venture capitalist woman They met in one thousand nine hundred eighty four and they would go on virtual dates and you might say wait a minute. Nineteen eighty-four virtual date. Well they would go see the same movie at the same time and then talk about it on their cell phones. Well there you go. that's high. And she convinces to stop eating meat for a short alf. That's that bill gates was a big mcdonalds fan. Oh yeah yeah yeah. That was very short time. He drove patched. Mcdonald's ended that. Yeah because i think last time we talked to gates is climate change. And he's another one that says we've got to cut back on meat. Yeah sure and someone said how about you. Start with your own joke. Mcdonald's wrappers all over your office never mind. Oh when he meets up. One of these best buddies is warren buffett. And when they meet up always go out to. Mcdonald's that's right yeah. I don't think she reminds me this woman and lindblad of. Who's the one that ran for governor against jerry brown that came in studio and we had a good time meg meg whitman. She looks like into shoulder. she's seventy we will. When they met down. There were much younger right. But i mean she's older than bill right but you're going back. What thirty seven years. She would have been thirty three. Yeah yeah very strained. Get old quickly situation but again no pre-nup so they're going to say something like she doesn't care because what she's going to get billions matter what matter i mean if i could be a continue has a one hundred and thirty billion dollars. Thirty billion all right. So what are the fourth richest people in the world behind bazo ceylon. Musk and some french luxury. Goods owner bernard arnault jeff. Jesus got divorced now. He's got two hundred billion six. T what does it matter when you're that wealthy. What i was thinking is the island in now the mediterranean molly baltar more coming. John and ken show. Kfi said multiple bird. There's only been two sets of nine babies being born at once in recorded history and i know the The first time it happened. Nineteen seventy one in australia and Within six days they all died and then in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine in malaysia and all nine died within six hours. Wow and even with the for that nine hundred seventy one thousand nine hundred ninety nine ninety nine right. Because today's medical technology might really help here. Yeah and when it comes to octuplets that's happened eight times and seven out of the eight times summer. All of them died. The only exception was octo. Mom's to mama all eight or fine a first time that ever happened. So this is Be right here in california superior healthcare so when you when you hear that. The baby telefoni. She was here in. yeah she was. Yeah when you hear that. The babies in mali are all doing fine. We have to wait a little while Okay so some time on saturday. Some part of the united states maybe could have a little problem. A chinese rocket is going to Rain down on the earth. Good where well still trying to figure it out there tracking the rockets trajectory. It is the long march five. Be rocket somewhere around meg eighth. That is saturday. We'll enter the earth's atmosphere. It's possible completely dissipate. There won't be any debris but they can't be certain of that. The rocket was used by the chinese to launch part of their space station last week while most space debris objects burn up in the atmosphere. This rocket twenty two tonnes has prompted concern that large parts could re entering cause damage if they hit inhabited areas we expected to re-enter sometime between the eighth and tenth of may and that two day period. It goes around the world thirty times. The thing is travelling at eighteen thousand miles an hour. So if you're an hour out at guessing where it comes down your eighteen thousand miles. So that's why they're having. I mean i'm seeing one story. It's mentioned new york. One stories mentioned beijing once mentioned philadelphia but most of the world is empty. That is true. Chances are water. I mean that sounds like a high article. That's what it says. The ocean remains the safest bet for where the debris is going to lash square. Miles of the biggest cities in the world are tiny little blips in comparison. The whole earth right isn't the earth. Three-quarters water something like seventy percent water. Yeah right and then. There's a enormous amounts of empty land. So but boy if we could tell exactly where the where that space rockets going to land. Yeah and then drive somebody out there. Hey go standing there yeah. They has dan right here. As far north as new york city madrid in beijing but as far south as southern chile and in new zealand. It's possible so they don't know. Apparently though this has happened. Before i saw a story where some metal parts rain down in a city i think it was in africa this story but i thought i saw that. That has happened that you know you're having a debris really unlucky day. If a chinese rocket falls on you this is true. That's a bad day. It's probably more likely than getting cova after being vaccinated not much conway's here our. Hey we got more thompson tonight right. It's tuesday a wondering about him. Yeah he'll be on but he hasn't come in for some reason. I don't know why he's one of those. We read about his type. That was that right. Oh there's an atlantic magazine story. Yeah wait a minute when you were out. He filled in for you. He came in. Yeah but i was. That was pretty vaccine. Bob danger is post vaccine. But but look your i can. You've had your Vaccine right yeah okay. John had misty and their eric and St gregory bellio crozier's had his. Yeah what's with the masks. Yeah that's what i'm asking. We're indoors Here's been inoculated. And we're all wearing masks i policy. It's like wearing a life preserver. Around here you wouldn't do that. That'd be funny. If people started wearing life preservers yeah. They'd be just as useful floods. Any silly thing you you'd wear on your head the seat belt seatbelt in here. That's right that's not going to stop. the virus. Never know this all right. Bad behavior on flights is way up. They usually get about one hundred a year. They're up to thirteen hundred so far this year. Do you know last flight. I was on. It actually took a flight first time in over a year. Wow nine in the morning. Coming back to la. They're handing out free wine to everybody really. Yes oh that's great people are grabbing it like. It's the last glass of wine on the plan. It was amazing. He joined the communist. I i don't know what this was for. I guess this is. The big welcome back was in south west knows delta delta and that gives an excuse to take your mask off the whole dealt old slogan we get you there. Yes it's like. Yeah well thanks right like it was a favor. Yeah right like an airline. That doesn't go where you wanna go get you. They're unbelievable bar thompson. I can't wait cursor. Coming up. Caylao los angeles second kfi koa to los angeles. Orange county live radio app.

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Saturday, February 20, 2021

NBC Nightly News

21:28 min | 3 months ago

Saturday, February 20, 2021

"Breaking news tonight the terrifying moments above colorado plane parts falling from the sky crashing into front yards a united airlines triple seven declaring may day and making an emergency landing. What went wrong. We talked a terrified residents on the ground. A major disaster declared a texas more than fourteen million without clean water the long lines for food and water a hotel burning out of control the sprinklers by the cold and has the weather warms up burst pipes now flooding homes. It's pretty much all ruined not not much able to be saved. Plus the outrageous customers get energy bills for thousands of dollars despite the blackouts the nationwide vaccine delays after the storms. What the white house. And fedex say they're doing to make it up migrants crowding at the southern border as the biden administration reverses a trump policy stopping asylum seekers the first busload crossing into the us. Check your mute. Entire school board resigns after being caught on zoom trashing parents over their calls for in learning. It's really a fortune. Exactly they want to pick on as they want their babysitter back. Plus our groundbreaking of teens and the pandemic. Why so many aren't getting enough sleep. And the mom teaching her daughter black history one photo at a time. This is nbc. Nightly news with jose diaz balart. Good evening we begin with breaking news. Out of colorado. Where a boeing triple seven bound for hawaii had made your engine failed video of the plane moments. After it happened you can see the black smoke and left behind. Parts from the plane literally fell off raining down on residential neighborhoods below. This is part of that plane in one front yard and this is more debris in a nearby soccer field. The plane forced to return to denver and make an emergency landing. You can see the damage engine there. Tom costello has late details. The video purportedly from on board united play three twenty eight terrifying the right engine on fire most of the covering gone while on the ground shrapnel and what appears to be the engine cowling in the front yard of a home in the denver suburb of broomfield nearby more chunks and pieces literally no soccer field. It was just after one pm mountain time when the pilot on the triple seven flying from denver to honolulu with two hundred forty one people on board declared an emergency twenty. Twenty eight heavy mayday mayday. He say his departure united three twenty eight hundred and eight aircraft carrier native star immediately. Witnesses didn't puff of smoke as to bre- began falling from the sky cleared the looked up and saw stuff just raining down from the sky so took shelter. United says the plane experienced uncontained engine failure. Where the engine fails and explodes rather than containing the failure despite widespread debris. No one on the ground was hit a remarkably. We have had no injuries reported yet. So considering how nice weather today compared to last weekend the amount of debris in how far it stretches the dog park is right here obviously the turf field behind me and we have had no reports of any injuries drawing parallels to an uncontained engine failure three years ago on a southwest airlines flight the mate an emergency landing in philadelphia one passenger was killed when the shrapnel punctured her window pulling her from her seat today no injuries. The flight landed safely at denver international transportation secretary buddha jet. I know that. Ntsb is already mobilizing so that they an independent agency can provide a roadway information as they piece together. What has happened getting to the bottom of this. Mechanical failure is going to be critical or did the engine ingest a flock of birds as a took off from dia or perhaps even a drone all of those possibilities right now are on the table. Jose tom costello thank you. We are joined now by aviation expert on veteran pilot. Johncock john good evening. Engine failures rare. What what could have caused this. This sort of engine failures very rarest known as uncontained failure. They're going to be looking for components inside. They're playing inside the engine. That may have failed before and caused this supplement metal fatigue on one of the turbine blades. Something like that so the ntsb now has this. Huge debris fields spread out across neighborhoods. What are they going to be looking for the. Ntsb will gather all of the evidence that they can all from the things that fell off of the airplane as well as the engine itself. And then they'll very carefully looked for anything that said that a blade failed a disk failure compressor section. were turban. disc fail they. They know what to look for. Because there's only so many things that can cause this sort of engine failure johncock. Thank you now to our other major breaking news in texas tonight a weather crisis is now a humanitarian nightmare. Millions are without clean water others waiting hours in line for food and now the cost damage from the disaster is beginning to become clear oregon. Chomsky reports from dallas tonight to the end of the texas deep-freeze turning one crisis into another hall. The fire overnight flames tore through a kaleen hotel. The fire made even worse by failed. Sprinkler system damaged when it froze the water issues. Still impacting more than fourteen million. Texans now forced to boil or find. Bottled water to supply is deemed safe. Drinking water flushing water. Any washing water any water. I need the water today. President biden approved an emergency disaster declaration offering grants for temporary housing and loans to repair property. Damage for seventy seven hard hit counties but texas officials say. It's not enough. Governor asked for a major disaster declaration for all two hundred and fifty four texas counties for both individual assistance and public assistance. This is what to seagal goal and his wife. Paulina came home to a burst. Pipe flooding there downstairs. Water went into those walls and our biggest worry worries mold for our kids. You don't with anything with moisture related but couple unaware of the damage until they got home from the hospital where both worked long hours treating patients. Many who lost power for slips in accidents on ice we can we can land spaceships on mars but we can't figure out how to get energy to communities in texas. It's quite frustrating. Frustration shared statewide with the extreme weather. Energy prices soared now residents who've had power reporting energy bills in the thousands. The governor holding an emergency meeting tonight to address it in austin. Nearly forty percent of the city lost power for multiple days catastrophic failure a catastrophic cost to the freeze on its way to surpassing hurricane. Harvey as the state's costliest weather event in history for the millions still without water and countless others picking up the pieces. Help can't come fast. Enough and morgan joins us now from dallas morgan. And the idea when this water disaster will be resolved. Jose even with millions facing those compromise water supplies. It is important to note. Progress is being made. Local communities are lifting those boil notices by the hour. Jose morgan chest in dallas. Thank you the storms are dealing another major blow to millions. Who helped to get their kovin. Vaccines this weekend. Sites in every state put appointments on hold or cancelled plans altogether. Blaine alexander has details as the country starts to fall out from unprecedented winter weather. It's bringing another devastating impact slowing the shipment of precious vaccines six million doses delayed impacting thousands of sites in all fifty states the biden administration now urging states to make up ground. We're asking vaccine administration sites to extend their hours even further and offer additional appointments. If we all work together from the factory all the way to the vaccinators we will make up for it in the coming weeks in new york. This chart shows the sharp dip in vaccinations over the past week. As a friday. Only forty percent of the expected supply actually arrived even sunny. California is feeling the impact in los angeles all city run. Vaccination sites have been forced to shut down friday and saturday. David fish off got the news as he was waiting in. Line are think that's crazy that they don't have you know more more more vaccine the rest of this country according to the county more than sixty thousand doses are stuck in kentucky and in tennessee home of the fedex shipping facility. The company says it's rerouting as many vaccine shipments as possible using regional hubs in california and new jersey. the white house says all backlogged doses should be delivered in the next week and some progress in hard hit texas. This houston hospital opened one thousand vaccinations slots starting today. They've already been filled. But the delays are even more devastating for patients like colin words a stage four lung cancer survivor and kansas. She can't even get on the vaccine waiting list. I'm stuck in my house. Because i'm scared to death to go anywhere because i've fought cancer for four years heart and I don't wanna die of covid. You know after going through all of that. S and blamed joins us from atlanta. Where that city is also seeing some delays this week. Well that's right jose. In fact this very parking lot is used as a vaccination sipe but the county has not notified anyone who scheduled to get their second maduna shot on monday that those appointments will have to be rescheduled likely for some time in the coming week. Jose blaine alexander. Thank you to help you plan when and where to your cova vaccine are interactive guy can help visit plan your vaccine dot com for more information. Sweeping changes are underway for our country's immigration policies. President biden is now relaxing. Tough trump era rules for asylum seekers at the border. Here's meghan fits here tonight. A major change in the nation's immigration policy as twenty-five asylum seekers cross the border from mexico into san diego there the first of twenty five thousand waiting in mexico for asylum hearings here in the. Us some have been there for years. Like an heloc. Amato's i was very afraid. 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Meaningful Sport - Prof. John Kaag (Pt1) - Running | Existentialism | Camus | The absurd | Philosophical Suicide

Physical Activity Researcher

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Meaningful Sport - Prof. John Kaag (Pt1) - Running | Existentialism | Camus | The absurd | Philosophical Suicide

"This is the physical activity researcher. Podcast a podcast for researchers of sedentary behavior physical activity and sports join for a relaxed dialogue about research designed practicalities. And well anything related to research. Learn from your fellow. Researchers useful and relevant information that does not pay into formal content limited space of scientific publications. And here's your host. Welcome everyone this is the meaningful sport. Podcast and im your host not gotten meaningful. Sport is a series of discussions on the y and how involvement is sport than physical activity can be an important part of a life worth living. If you are interested in the theme you might also want to check out meaningful sport dot com there. You can find podcast. Show notes read a blog and access many resources for further explorations of meaningful sport. In this podcast we have explored several perspectives. On how and why. Sport can be part of good life and finding meaning but today we are going to ask whether sport can sometimes be escape away to flee the absurdity of existence and defined a full sense of meaning in a meaningless world. I'm delighted to have. Professor shawn cog from the university of massachusetts lowell. Discussing with me today. Professor cog has written several books including hiking with nietzsche which is certainly interesting for our listeners. Today we explore questions about meaning value in sport drawing partly on his recent essay titled how to live with die. Welcome to the podcast professor johncock. Thank you so much for finding the time for our conversation. Thank you so much for having me. I'm delighted we have this jazz discussing. I already mentioned at also Shared his interest in nietzsche's philosophy. And and i really enjoyed your book on hiking with niches. Just kind of start with that. But i think for for today i would like to start with more reason. Work that you've done. So i read your short essay how to live with dying where you write the very personal story of how you've been runner for twenty years and how running almost killed you about year ago. So let's start from this very powerful personal story that you share in the text exploiter role at running has played in in your life I think that the story is really one. That many avid runners Could probably tell on at least part of the story is i mean when i was young i was brought up in fairly controlling conservative environment and i took running as a way of actually laying claim to my life for the one thing that i alone could control and an exercise more generally as a way of limiting or creating a space for myself It was a way of escape. But also a way of reclaiming Time and energy that i felt was being drained by other forces beyond my control. And i i mean when i started running in high school it was just type. It was a type of authentic experience. That i- i- claimed. And then i rode and swam in college and that what initially was sort of authentic experience where i could be myself became more and more compulsive and what i think we could explore a little bit. Today is the way that exercise Can often times exist right on the brink between compulsion and authentic experience and i found myself to bing more often than not into the sort of routine sort of habit sort of compulsive mania with my running which again i think that many Competitive athletes probably could also identify with and just to sort of fast forward. I'm now forty one. And last year i was on a treadmill and i would always lock the treadmill in Seven oh four And i'd run for usually six sixty eight miles At that pace. But when i hopped off the treadmill last on march i did so and I had to lay down on the gym floor. And i went into what's called the tax which is also known as the death beat. My heart went into full cardiac arrest. And i had to be sort of shocked back to life and then taken to the emergency room and i was diagnosed with. What's known as an abnormal right coronary artery. Which is the leading cause of sudden death in in elite athletes or one of the leading causes and it turns out that i've been Running on heart. That didn't quite work appropriately. And so the story that i told in the american scholar. Which is the essay that you referred to is the realization that i had used running as a way to run away from life rather than to embrace it for a long time and one thing with the cardiac arrest is that you don't have much time or you realize you don't have much time left and it's the reevaluation of life and Sort of you know. One of the questions that i had to ask in that moment was what was i running from. And how should. I re orient my life so that exercise and running could be a return to life rather than simply in the scape. It's such power whole story and we will towards the end talk about your relationship with running then after all this. This has happened. But i think what you already started exploring an and what will be very nice for us to cover. Today's that when when does running or any sport become from this more life affirming activitated something that becomes somewhat obsession or or compulsion and we know that the lord of runners very attached to their training schedule and adding more miles and you know achieving this pace and achieving the time in five or ten k. Or whatever is the goal so yeah. Let's let's maybe start talking about that. Then so maybe just share a little bit of your thoughts about running us and activity. That could be life affirming if we if we talk about nietzsche for example. Where us do we get lost in our activities. Sure i mean this. Is i think one of the background or the background that we need to discuss a little bit is just Human existence and the way that Philosophers like nietzsche or who and mentioned in the essay described humans existence and these philosophers might the sort of philosophers that i gravitated toward through my teens. My twenties thirties and now in my s all of them sort of a grew up and came of age in the nineteenth century nineteenth and twentieth century. At a time when traditional forms of value traditional ways of tapping meaning were becoming too. They were. They were slowly being seen as being outmoded or being largely meaningless. What i mean by this is when frederick nietzsche In the second half of the nineteenth century says that god is dead famously. Nietzsche is actually not celebrating. This fact he's saying we have a massive problem in our in our modern age. It is the fact that The sort of forms of institutional meaning that we got from the church that we offer medication that we got from politics that we got from Any type of religion or ideology these forms of meaning no longer held sway No longer held real meaning and nietzsche in the nineteenth century was saying in the absence of god or in the absence of these traditional forms value. How do you form meaning. How do you structure your life. And i think that many runners are using running to structure their lives and that can be both a boon or benefit their lives but it can also be a way of masking the underlying. Boyd or the underline problem that was identified namely There is nothing like intrinsic value in the unit in the universe. And what we do we Fill our days with a twenty mile runs or when we feel our days with these goals that we think that we need to pursue We both create some sort of structure meeting her lives. But we can also lose track of the fact that our lives are precious and fragile and an ephemeral and fleeting and. I think that that's one of the things that nietzsche's philosophy also wants us to take account off. Certainly it is the case also with a canoe. An existential is more generally in the twentieth century. They want us to realize that our human lives are ones that should be imposed of choice and that that we have choices over the lives that we lead. And i think that a point where running or any type of exercise becomes a compulsion rather than existential valuable. You activity is win. We no longer have choices over our lives over the routines that we set for ourselves that the routines themselves take on a live life of their own. And that's a point where nietzsche would be suspicious of our activity. Does that make sense. Yeah it it makes a lot of sense. Yeah you also talk in this essay about how your relationship with running changed in your life as s it certainly dawson who who've been runners full following a period of time. I think it was really interesting at the beginning. You mentioning this long. Comfort runners like the tibetan runners. I remember reading about them. As part of my travel reading when a been debate about ten years ago. I think and and that has been one inspiration for you and i could relate to that and we have all these popular books about like the born to run book when it came out. That was a massive running boom. And and there's plenty of popular literature on running and meditation and mindfulness and even spirituality. So yeah my question would be this part of why running is attracting so many people that it is almost a super human or divine activity as you put it in your essay and is it the our way to strive for transcendence even a sublime to the i mean running is beautiful sublime activity. When it's done correctly. I think yeah. Yeah and one of the things that attracted me to running. Is that when you reach. A certain point in running and in a certain type of exercise on it also attracts me to yoga and yoga practices. Your mind goes off and for us with busy monkey minds as the buddhist might say running is a type of meditation that allows your mind to simply go off and you don't realize about the yards that you're covering the miles that you're covering they just go and you are running and that's all you are. You're not not thinking about other things you're not thinking about you're not you're not preoccupied or expecting It's this type of. I mean we describe it as a flow state but it's it's any type of repetitive activity. Where you just immerse yourself. I sometimes ask my students like where do you find yourself. Then they say well. I find myself running or playing basketball or playing music and then i say where do you lose yourself. And strangely enough they come up with the same types of explanations and so i think that that's Finding yourself in losing yourself in those types of physical activities is a type of transcendence. That is mystical. You know i mean. In in another time we would have called it religious mysticism but Today we just call it running. And and i think that that's very valuable exercise for individuals who are constantly on the clock in their normal everyday lives. I think running provides that type of respite. So when i was young when i mentioned that i grew up in controlling environment. Everything was calculated. My grades were calculated. The time on my swimming meets were calculated. The amount of food that i took in was calculated and running was one of those things that i could just for a little while. Get away from that rat race and get away from the measuring but but strangely enough You end up using the same type of measurement when it comes to running if you fall into the sort of well. It has to be seven. Oh four jobs for six miles in your forty years older. It has to be you know. Six thirty two for three miles. When you're you know fifty four something. I mean it it. It has to be when you end up using the same type of calculations and calculated Calculating abilities to measure. You're running i in the transcendent sometimes. Simply drop sow at least yeah. Yeah i was going to say such a paradox. that on the one running such liberating activity Way to experience freedom and some sense of transcendence but at the same time especially now the health technology and gps will cheese and an all. These things are all over us. We also often trapping ourselves to metrics and and we let the watch. Tell us whether this was a good nor it was a bad run instead of how how we felt. Exactly i mean. I think about this Article that i wrote for the point magazine. It was called step count and i was running. I was in san diego. And i was running along. The ocean in this woman passed me and she said to me. You should really get You should really get one of these smartwatches. You should really get this. She was running fast and she passed me and she goes. How many steps have you taken. And unlike i don't i don't i don't i don't have one of those things and you should really get one. And then she just blew by me she must have been going six twelve miles or something lou by me and and i thought to myself beautiful runner effortless but at the time you could tell that. She was hinged to her device And checking her device at all times and it's concerning that we allow our running to be drawn into that a new writing in in your essay that you've been a runner for twenty years. Did you have you had these negotiations with with with the watch with technology are. How are you suck. Yeah i mean. I I can butin triathlons and I am. I was very very reverential of time and mindful of the time that i spent Exercising and and i would take three and four hour. they're called trap on called brick practices where you would do You know you would. You would swim for an hour and then you would ride for three hours. And what i discovered is that I was so worried about those types of practices and how they went. And whether i could get them in a week and what i discovered is that on after my heart attacks and cardiac than cardiac arrest is that i had been sacrificing large parts of my life for the sake of those practices and sacrificing. You know certain things about my professional and personal lives At the sacrifices i was making for my athletic regimen was Were pretty considerable. And it took me. It took me really confronting death to really reorient myself to actuality in usa. You are using communist philosophy to explore some of these questions about meaning absurdity of existence and run in this podcast. We haven't talked about kamu yet. Tweet talked about heidegger and each sar. Try to some extent so maybe we can go through some of key ideas in commerce thinking what he meant with Miss of sece's well. That's the famous thing that most listeners have heard of. yeah. I love to sew in the mississippi fisk Opens this book with a very famous and very disturbing verse. Lining says there is but one serious philosophical question and that is suicide whether to live or not to live is the primary question and everything else after that whether we live in four dimensions or six or philosophical very technical philosophical questions on everything else is just window-dressing where it's just whereas secondary to this question of is life worth living and why and canoe said that we when we asked that question. Is life worth living. Oftentimes we We looked to institutions like the ones that nietzsche was saying are largely meaningless in the nineteenth century. We looked institutions to give us those answers about whether life is or not so for example. I look to my priest. Dry looked my mother or father. Where i looked my spouse or i looked to whoever and canoe says that those types of moves where i looked to my routine or my habits were my regimen right. Those types of moves For commu and for existential more generally simply don't work what is most basic about us as human beings are that we live alone that we've learned that we die alone that our choices are ours and that we are in certain you know jump all sorts words condemned to be free in other words. You have radical freedom over your life. Okay you can live. You can take your life. It's up to you. And i think that Caboose philosophy was one that i learned when i was relatively young probably. It was my one of my first readings in college and what i used running to do was to structure my life. Then i i tried to in some ways Flea what can says is our existential condition. Which is the absurd like komo says that every single human life is lived through. If we're honest as the absurd now usually we think about and this is why it's philosophy is called the philosophy of the absurd now Usually we think about absurdity as something extraordinary or weird or uncanny something out of the ordinary and canoe says that we should understand our condition the absurd condition of human beings in a slightly different way. He describes the absurd as a divorce or separation between human purposes and a perfectly indifferent universe in other words we as human beings have purposes. We have a desire at deep desire to figure things out but we live in a universe that couldn't give a damn couldn't doesn't care at all about our purposes us and that's very disturbing thought for many many people can lose. Says we need to own up to it. Though because otherwise we give ourselves over to We give ourselves over institutions in groups type that he was facing during the rise of the nazi regime for example that pretend to give our lives intrinsic value says there's no such thing as intrinsic value. He says that we are sisyphus. Which i'll talk about second. But he says we as human beings live a meaningless world that the only meaning that we could have in this world is what we give to it and the task of life is to try to indiana says revolt against the absurd john. Describe if maybe you think the listeners would be interested. But maybe i'll stop there light. You poke me terms of. Yeah so if we start with the starting point that the universe doesn't give a damn so we we have all our purposes in our intentions. But you're actually. None of them are none of them really matter and so how are we going to figure our lives. What's yeah i would just left sitting here. And how can we commit to anything in this world. That's the task. I mean so i'm yet Let me give you let me give our listeners. A little bit more of a sense of this absurdity so can mussa's it. Hey we're really likes systematise. In other words the ancient figure or the logical figure who was condemned to push a boulder up the hill by the greek gods and then when sisyphus gets his boulder. The top of the hill on the boulder falls down again. Now this according to canoe is the absurd condition and it's not like the rat race that we do every day at our jobs right. That's not the absurd or are sisyphean condition. The sisyphean condition is syphilis has a purpose to push the boulder up. The hill and the universe is completely indifferent to those purposes namely there is gravity that will always draw vulgar back down now if we think about that in the context of our own unique individual lives that is to say that We have purposes like forming a household like healthy like having meaningful relationship but in the end the universe doesn't care at all about those projects and in the end. Those projects will come to not what i mean by. That is your attempts to be healthy. We are destined through the grave. Like we're just going to be warm food. Your your attempts to form a houseful. Hold in the end cosmetically speaking. It's all going to be. Dust is Point now many of my students. When i say that to them are distraught right they think. Oh my gosh. what am i going to do. My this is such a depressing philosophy. Dr keg Things Things that it's actually a honest to the human condition and be liberating. So how does that work now can move things that when he's being brought up in Or coming of age philosophically. When he's coming of age nineteen forties and watching the rise of fascism. He thinks that the organization of society right these these organizations that pretend to give universe meaning in some sort of lockstep way. You can think about The way that any fascist regime operates by way of giving its adherents or its members a sense of order by wet or a sense of meaning by way of strict order commute thinks that these institutions that. Pretend to mask the absurd. You know it try to mask. Our condition are two things one that they tend to be unjust and there tend to be lots of sort of injustices committed on their behalf and then no one is actually responsible. That's that's the first danger. The second danger is that if you give yourself. Over as an adherent to these types of systems or these types of compulsive unthinking ways that you might get the end of the year liking discover that you haven't really lived in other words you haven't decided how to act right you've just been going through the motions like an automaton were machine and i think that could move is says says that we need to own up to our absurd condition because it allows us to make choices for ourselves terrifying choices where we take absolute responsibility but at least it's our lives that we're going to be living. Were trying to live in the face of the absurd Now one of the strangest hearts that canoe No rights in the myth of sisyphus is where he says that we must imagine sisyphus as being happy And i think that that's something that we should probably talk about an explorer in reference to running. I also think that we can talk about the absurd in terms of running a little bit in a little more. Because i think what gives us is a way of thinking about are running practice both as potential form of what he calls philosophical suicide but also in terms of what he calls revolt or authentic wage. Respond to the absurd. Yeah again so many ideas. So let's move onto the concept philosophical. Suicide what does come you mean with that. Philosophical suicide is any type of he says that when your base would be absurd namely being one of cicis where we live in a universe that is completely indifferent to our human purposes. Many people get scared. And there is a way of fleeing the absurd which is called philosophical suicide philosophical. Suicide is any form of action or thought in which we don't claim choice liberty or freedom of our actions when we give ourselves over to the strict routines of modern life and we live thoughtlessly and we tried to flee where escape the unsettling idea the absurd and i think that one of the i mean you can think about philosophical philosophical suicide in many different ways. Think about the way if you've ever had a friend who's in a marriage that is deeply unhappy in you. Say to him or her. Will you just leave. You know you're free to do so. And then that friend says to you while i simply couldn't that's philosophical suicide it's a lie Sort will call it bad faith but it's a lie about who we are as human beings namely that we are free and it's to say i can't do it i am stuck. I must continue the way that i am and could move says many institutions like religion. Like the insist that we must be a certain way and says that's a form of what he calls philosophical suicide so that's the and navy our listeners and i certainly have from when asked themselves how am i committing philosophical suicide. What my life leads me to ignore the fact that i live the absurd condition right. Yeah absolutely and i was going to say that. It's not just religion for example that would have a rigid idea of how you should live your life like university career structures. All these things are certainly a also giving you a very narrow idea. What is a good way off leading your professional life and what is not and and so forth and also in sport There are certain goals certain projects that are more valued than than some others and runners saw easily. Kinda lured to the idea that you know running a marathon. They send that time. What is success. And i mean if we think about the amount of time that it takes to be competitive athlete in the amount of training. It really is an issue of orientation to that amount of time. It's must you do this or are you choosing to do it That's that's the pivotal difference for a canoe because athletics can be a form of revolt. Which will get to a second which he thinks is an authentic experience but The idea that my life will be meaningful. If i run a sub three hour marathon for example or a sub two and a half hour marathon or i mean the idea that i would that my life would be meaningful if i wanna triathlon or did an iron man. This is a lie because it's not. It's komo says you might do that. But then you you again. You face the facts that all of us are going to end up with a cardiac arrest like all of us. Cardiac of this means that your heart stops. You don't want it to but it's gonna do it anyway and That's that's what the human condition is. Now i don't want you. I don't want our listeners to be bummed out too much right. What i want is the idea that that our lives are so precious and fleeting and fragile that we actually choose how to live which means choose to do the marathon right us to train. Dome allow the training to dictate your life. You know ask yourself. Is this something i still want to do. Is this something that is giving my life routine. Meaning right Ask yourself. And i think that's the difference for komo. He saying be aware. Be always conscious of the condition that we're in because no particular goal and no particular time is going to actually flip you over into some sort of You're never gonna wake. And i mean i know lots of competitive athletes who say at one of the saddest moments of their life is the day after a race where they worry well right now i can tell you that the from experience that is also the case. Because it's because you realize that oh this isn't going to bring me lasting happiness now. I have to look for another goal right or another. I mean type of Type of worship and we all get to choose what we worship and where. We tap meaning but We also sometimes forget about that choice when we're in the midst of it. Yeah what you said about reaching that goal and and the next day you have this blues. I mean sports psychology researches. Just load so work on like post-olympic blues and mental healthy shift athletes might be facing. After they had this big event up they trained for for some time. And then you end up having this sense of emptiness and orients nation and even if you want maybe that's not exactly giving us that this action after all uneven especially when you've won highest levels because the question is where do you go from here and and why do i not feel happier and i think that one of the reasons that can move says we don't feel happier is that we think that these things right that these discreet goals are going to deliver us to being some other type of person and we're always stuck with ourselves and ruffled emerson says. My giant goes with me wherever i go. Well that's that's the case i mean. Don't become somebody radically different like you. Don't become a god just by not achieving some sort of goal transcendence is an At best i think in the moment in those types of flow states where you lose track of the miles that you're going or lose track of the time and we're fully immersed in the activity those though the that's type of transcendence that i think that can move could at least get behind to some extent and certainly nietzsche could get behind it to some extent. Thanks for joining us this week. On physical activity research through podcasts. If you like this shope makes you never miss an episode by subscribing or follow the show on twitter. This podcast is made possible by listeners. Like you thank you for your. If you found value in the show we would really appreciate raising apple. Podcast which ever after us or if you in real old way simply tell a friend about the show the great help us. We have a fantastic lineup of guests forthcoming episodes so be certitude. Thank you all for your support and have a great day.

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June 11, Hr 3  Greeley Police Chief Mark Jones

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June 11, Hr 3 Greeley Police Chief Mark Jones

"This is mornings with Gail fueled by Great Western Petroleum, only thirteen ten, Kfi. In the days after George Floyd's at tragic death, protests erupted in over three hundred and fifty cities around the country National Guard was deployed to twenty three states. More than fourteen metro areas implemented curfews so for more than two weeks. Protesters have taken to the streets sometimes several times per day, demanding justice for George Floyd for George Floyd's family, demanding police a defunding in some cases disbanding of police departments and a comprehensive as a comprehensive re imagination of a public safety. Good news is Greeley hosted several rally. Several protests that remained peaceful joined this morning by really police chief, mark, Jones and cheap Jones. Welcome back to the show. Thank you and good morning I think it's a testament. Not only to the calm that we saw that so characterized. Those protests throughout Greeley relative to George Floyd but a certain. It's certainly a testament to our community that those protests did not turn violent. How does law enforcement prepare for protests of this magnitude after what we have seen over the past two weeks? Well jail. That's It takes a lot of work. And we we certainly I guess. Let me first say that I'm extremely thankful that the protests that have taken place in Greeley have have turned out peaceful and. Have Been I mean good for our community so but it does I mean we have to plan. I kinda say we plan for the worst and hope for the best. and so we have to have a plan in place, because obviously if things got out of hand and we didn't have a plan, that wouldn't be good, either so we. We like I said we kind of plan for the worst and hope for the best and thank goodness. They really was the best. Law Enforcement I think almost to a man and a woman across the country absolutely appalled disgusted at what we saw on video as those. Police officers in Minneapolis apprehended, and then murdered George Floyd Derek Chavez, did of course he is accused of. Murder What is your response to that? Well. I mean obviously I think police departments across the country including ours that. We say across the country I still believe that ninety nine percent of police officers are are great people who are doing it difficult job and do the very best to help the people that they can and good cops are appalled Whenever bad cops do things that that they shouldn't do and then unfortunately the actions of abuse in effect all of us tremendously. Senator Ted Cruz twinning this morning. The vast majority of police officers firefighters the law bravely rush into harm's way. Risk their lives and limbs to protect the vulnerable communities, while more can be done to ensure the rights of every American are protected. defunding police departments is not the answer. Did you ever think that you would see a day where something that was just so left field and talking about? defunding that. Police departments across the country. Did you ever think there would be a day that we would be having this conversation? Well Yeah, you know I I guess I can't help, but reflect on. People ask you that back whenever they legalized marijuana. And legalizing other drugs across the country like in Denver and it's like people ask me and I it's like yeah, in my wildest dreams. I would have never believed ten years ago. That would have happened, and so it kind of along the same vein. Yes I I would have never in a million years thought that America would say we don't need police department, so we need to defend them and and come up with alternatives I. Guess I'm just not really sure what that looks like. Some suggest in order to get rid of the so called a bad apples and bad apples in every profession. This is not a pejorative comment about law enforcement whatsoever, but some suggests that to get rid of bad cops. We need to start with their unions your thoughts. Well I mean. That's I. Guess kind of a tricky question and again you know like here in Greeley. Police, officers, association, which is which is I think the good for the officers, and and they're. Very reasonable and we really haven't had the type of issues that you see with the strong unions and some of the bigger cities, but I I guess I will make a comment that and I've I've been to a number of national type. Schools are trainings with other cheese from around the country. When you talk about, you know some of their frustrations with trying to get rid of police officers do things that aren't right, and then they get their jobs back. through, you know. Know I I guess the state unions. That's not really accurate, but yet it is, and their hands are tied. You know they they've tried to get rid of officers. Then get their jobs back and then do it again and so I certainly have heard the frustration from some of the larger cities that have very strong police unions from upper management that that is a struggle Thank goodness. We don't really have that here. but I i. do think that is a piece of. Community policing united had the opportunity to talk about that quite a bit the importance of building relationships and understanding between law, enforcement and members of our community, but you take other steps in. Don't you? At Greeley Police Department to? Ensure that law enforcement is well affair well aware of. Sword Diversity and how to deal with. Different people of different stripes. you know we do and I guess that's been. One of the positives of this is I've had a number of emails and phone calls over the last couple of weeks. You know the that are demanding that we need to adopt this or do away with this or whatever and I've been able to say you know what most of the things that they've talked to me. ME, about have been in the police department for a long time or have been at degree police department for a long time, such as some of the De Escalation, training antibiotic training, and all those things, but I guess I would just comment on that because I've also had. People say that they don't believe antibodies strings enough, but you know my philosophy has always been and. And I tell people all the time. I I mean I think we should treat all people to say you know, and there should never be discrimination or a lack of police, response or the way we treat people. anybody should be different, but we we should treat all people the way we want to be treated and the way we want. Our family treated whether they're. They're a victim or suspect or whatever so you know to me. It's not I certainly. Training is part of it, but part of it. I think he's just what you believe in your heart. Your philosophy is and and that's what mine is, and that's what I say. All the time to the police officers and I think people we try to hire absolutely believe that. County you counter the myth within your own community of a systemic racial bias which has become really. The talking point of mainstream media in the wake of the tragic death of George Floyd but that perception which has been debunked of systemic racial bias within police departments. I I guess. I don't claim to be an expert on on all of that. or I I mean I've been through implicit bias, training and other things, and and I don't claim to be an expert to understand exactly what all that that says and does I. Get you know I mean that? That's a difficult one again. I. Guess is all I can say. Is that I think if if people have in their minds, heart that that everybody we treat everybody the way we'd like to be treated. I think that goes a long ways and whether there's internal biases that we don't even know that we have which is is part of what implicit bias training is I. Guess You'd just be aware that we treat all people with respect and again that's not to say that there aren't vacations with police and and difficult situations that involve firearms and knives, and whatever, but but you know even though you might have to use a certain amount of force to overcome. Some violent behavior it doesn't mean that you have to treat people with disrespect. Eight Sixteen, now thirteen ten K of k thirteen ten KFI K. A. dot com joined by Greeley police chief. Mark Jones wanted to ask you about this sweeping police accountability bill that just passed the Colorado Senate a thirty two to one and it will move into the house and ask you a little bit about those the implications of this bill, and I have to admit the timing of it seemed a little opportunistic to me. Well, I! Think and I've told people the last two or three days whenever I come in about it that it's a little bit difficult to make a strong comment about it until we know what the final bill looks like me and you know I'll say that when the bill started, I think there were a number of things in it that were extremely problematic, or there would be a lot of unintended consequences that wouldn't. Wouldn't be good, but they have cleaned it up quite a bit and change some things, and taking some things out and I'm I'm hoping for the Best so I think it's. It's certainly heading in the right direction but it's GonNa. Be Really hard for me to say exactly what I think. It's GonNa. do or not do until I know what the final wording is fair enough so on that note. We will table the conversation at this point in time, but love to get you back on and get your reaction to that, but again. Thank you for all that you and your fellow. To to help provide a safety and protection around the community. Are you getting any backlash from the community? You know I I'm glad you brought that up. Because I would say overwhelmingly. We've received a lot of support without a lot of. Goodies and things dropped off at the police department with people saying. Hey, we support at this time I mean. I've certainly think somebody worked hammers. Recently, that would say there are other people out there. That feel differently, but I have to emphasize that I believe the majority of the People here have been extremely supportive. Greeley police chief Mark Jones thanks as always for your time. Certainly do appreciate it. You Bet calculator. Eight eighteen now thirteen ten KFI. All sports story in northern Colorado state in the country tune into the hall show weekdays noon to two and thirteen ten KFI, k.. If you miss any portion of mornings with Yale go to thirteen ten kfi am dot com to download the podcast today back to jail. That sock. That's think about eight twenty, five, now fifteen ten K of gay thirteen ten JFK DOT com. Gail fueled by Great Western Petroleum live local via the collision specialists studios. Okay, this is kind of cool. Because I was actually watching This is a movement that is sweeping the country. Now as a restaurants are very slowly cautiously reopening with all of the covert related Covid nineteen related restrictions in place. You know every other table We actually went to a restaurant and I had to giggle just a little bit because There was a bar in the center of the restaurant. Restaurant and of course all the Barstools were there and they had it wrapped up with the equivalent of police tape. Is it was a crime scene? You know everybody doing what they can days right? But watching this morning some restaurant owners because once again those profit margins vary very narrow in the restaurant industry, and with the restrictions on capacity the number of people that can be in the restaurant based on square footage at any given time. Many restaurants opting not not to reopen. Because well from a financial standpoint, it just doesn't help any number of restaurants, though looking to expand. Maybe they don't have an outdoor patio, but perhaps there's a parking lot so looking to expand their seating capacity by. Offering meals outside, but I was watching gentlemen I believe out of New York this morning said well. That's all well and good, but here's the problem. As long as the sun is Shining Yeah, we'll have more people. Come in or out. To a restaurant, but the bottom line is what happens when it rains. What happens when the wind is blowing? No, so actually for many restaurant owners facing so many challenges in a time of covid nineteen. Well, it's it's kind of a tough situation when it comes to reopening, but got a piece this morning talking about. Dot C. DOT has created a fund to actually help. cities across the state allow restaurants to extend their seating capacity onto streets, perhaps onto sidewalks, unused parking areas so I wanna get into that, but interesting conversation and thank you really thank you I so appreciate your wisdom fascinating conversation this morning with Greeley, police, chief Mark Jones, and of course all that's swirling around with the calls for defunding or disbanding police departments across the state. You've got protesters and Seattle. SEATTLE, taking over seven block area, calling it a no police zone, actually taking over precinct in this area of Seattle calling it the Peoples Department. Whatever the heck that might mean, but the narrative has been so negative as once again the kitchen sinking when it comes to law, enforcement continues as a result of the actions of well some pretty bad cops. That did some pretty bad things unforgivable things when it comes to the tragic death of George Floyd at the hands of. Minneapolis Minnesota police officers. Bottom line is it's not generalize. Let's not stereotype and it was just so warm to me when I asked. really police chief Mark Jones. Are you feeling the fallout all this anger toward a law enforcement, and this totally false narrative that law enforcement by its very nature nature is systemically racist to you can find any number of studies. Many of them done by liberal. College, professors that to their surprise, perhaps to their Chagrin that is definitely not the case but Kudos to you Greeley when I asked cheap tones this morning. Are you feeling the backlash his? Yeah, well. If you look at some of the body Cams, there are some people that well don't necessarily appreciate the role of law and order, but. He also said the outpouring of support. From you Greeley. In terms of just emails and Punk, 'cause saying I just offering support, and you're dropping off goodies at the police department. Keep it up, really keep it up eight thirty now thirteen ten K. F. K.. UNC bears target game coverage lives on thirteen ten KFI. It's always your turn to comment text K, a two, three, one, nine, nine six to get involved in the conversation mornings with Gail continues now thirteen ten Kfi K.. Well in a time of Covid nineteen again we all had to get creative and be inventive. So, many business owners have had to be as well in order to reopen in some semblance of limited capacity I suppose is the best way to describe it particularly at restaurants, and we actually went out and had a lovely meal at local restaurants support local restaurants to the best of your ability but it. It's funny, isn't it? How when you try to find any positive coming out of this pandemic? Though we're learning to appreciate the little things again and going out to a restaurant for me was such an amazingly normal and a fun experience. How about you are you comfortable as restaurants reopen? Are you comfortable going back to a restaurant for dining service? Nine, seven, zero, three, five, three, thirteen, ten, eight, seven, seven, three, five, three thirteen. Drop me a text on our thirteen ten k. up, K, a text line at three, one, nine, nine six. We'll see. Is doing what it can to help those small business particular restaurants, the ones that have been so hard hit by the covid nineteen related closures cdot. Has Created A fund to help. Cities extend restaurants onto streets again because they are limited when it comes to indoor seating. The restaurant I was at probably have the same experience. It was kind of like every other table. Lot of social distancing going on the single use menus sweatless goes on and on they can salt and pepper shakers off the tables and you know. Know the little containers of splendor, or whatever the case may be the yellow, the bluer the pink stuff we'll just leave it at that house that meanwhile can Amazon writing in the gray trib communities attempting to help restaurants reopen from covid, nineteen shutdowns, extending their seating areas onto sidewalks and streets might well be able to get an assist from the Colorado Department of Transportation Cdot. Jamie Grim? Is the local government liaison for CDOT well. He told northern Colorado elected and appointed leaders just yesterday that the State Transportation Department has designated four point one million dollars in a mobility grant fund to help communities buy or rent barriers to keeps ceding and pedestrian areas separate from traffic areas, many communities in northern Colorado of worked with restaurants to extend their customer areas to areas outside of the restaurant in order to help. Help them seat. More people while understate ordered limitation on customer distancing frequently. However, those restaurants are located on state high ways well. That makes it a little bit more problematic now, doesn't it? It makes it more difficult to extend though seating areas onto the street. GRIMM said we want this referring to extending outside seating. We want this to work, but we don't want people. People to get mowed down yet. Thank State Regulations require that Concrete Jersey barriers installed pedestrians are walking or seated next to vehicle traffic lanes. In addition, speed limits would need to be reduced and use usages would need to be compliant with Ada the Americans with Disabilities Act. Windsor Mayor Paul Renna Myer asked about entertainment districts that are bisected by state highways such as in. In downtown Windsor in downtown, loveland local officials have expressed concern about whether people could carry an alcoholic beverage across the state highway. If the entertainment district is is on both sides of the highway, Grimm said CDOT has been unable to find reference in State Law to that concern, my Gosh, she talked about the domino effect, right? She said CDOT does not issued liquor licenses. Okay it is issuing special use permits for use of highway rights of way, so the communities can extend pedestrian or seating areas onto streets that are also stayed highway. It's kind of like dinesh their own risk, right? We don't want individual businesses to come to us to request these. But. We'll give cities, cities, special permits, and have them oversee their you. She said special use permits are good for a hundred and twenty days, and can be renewed if communities determined that restaurants continue to need access to the streets, Beth snow, or excuse me Ben's though director of economic health and housing for the city of Greeley said the Greeley City Council approved on first reading a Go Cup ordinance that will permit outside consumption of alcohol along certain parts of the downtown area, including Eighth Avenue, which is also US highway, eighty-five parking areas on the highway will be converted to pedestrian or restaurant use while retaining traffic flow. A grim, said that information about. How to apply for those mobility grants. Will be available from cdot a yet this week. Someone again, CDOT, being innovative, getting creative creating that fund. To help cities extend restaurants onto streets, but speaking of go cubs. Well, it begs the question will to go. Booze and alcohol delivery become the new norm for Colorado, bars and restaurants fascinating piece I pulled a few days ago from the Denver. Post by Josie Sexton, relative to those lovely adult beverages over the past few months in Colorado, drinkers have been unpacking bottles of wine from their restaurant to go bags or carrying out plastic cups, filled with Margaritas alongside their tacos or getting old fashioned delivered. Delivered right to their doorstep on with dinner as one of the rare crowd-pleasing effects of the age of Corona virus in quarantine to go, alcohol has also helped to keep restaurants and bars afloat during the ten week shutdown around eighty seven percent of Colorado restaurants report making revenue from it this according to the Colorado, Restaurant Association, but even as restaurants and bars begin to reopen state lawmakers are also considering extending the takeout alcohol provision for another two years. At least there's a Senate bill to thirteen. It was introduced in the Colorado General Assembly. In early June would allow alcohol takeout and delivery to continue through July of twenty twenty two at that point. The legislation would automatically be repealed so that lawmakers and the public could decide if alcohol go should become the law indefinitely. Think about that nine, seven, three, five, three, thirteen ten. Sees Me Eight, seven, seven, three, five, three, thirteen, ten dropping attacks stat three. One, nine nine six Mike Laszlo is a Colorado based liquor attorney who represents restaurants and bar clients. He says this. This is certainly changing the law, but it's doing so temporarily. Laszlo emphasized that the bill would just continue. Governor Jared police's order, and then repeal itself at around the two year mark until then it would allow restaurants, bars, breweries, distillery, pubs, and other businesses with various liquor licenses to sell their alcohol for takeout and delivery, which by the way. They have been doing since March businesses would be restricted by their to go container site sizes, seven hundred and fifty milliliters for wine and spirits and seventy two fluid ounces for beer insiders, and they would also have to keep their gross revenue from food and alcohol, takeout and delivery to a maximum fifty percent of total sales revenue. Now Laszlo added that restaurants already need to maintain twenty five percent of their sales from food, so if they did become more like retail liquor stores. He said they could only sell so much. So that's important to know, there are indeed limitations, but would it impact liquor stores well? Many say. Inevitably. Do Crates her. Who Owns Mondovi? No, this is a twenty one year old wine shop and Denver's highland neighborhood said I don't have a problem with the restaurants offering alcohol takeout in delivery, but if it's a permanent thing well, he wouldn't be too happy with it. He said that during a time of covid nineteen has sales have been like Christmas every single day, but he's also lost income from around two hundred canceled weddings that he would have supplied wine to now only in places like New Orleans for example. Could you previously walk out of a store buying a boozy to go cub and the logic holds? If you're already spending money on to go food drinks prepared by professional bartender else paired. Wine Some gay could be an obvious bonus shutdown a show anything up restaurants bars. It's set. Their owners are sure to get even more creative as we all of add to given any loosened restrictions so once again this proposed bill would allow to booze and alcohol delivery to become the new norm for Colorado bars and restaurants through July of Twenty, twenty, two, when it again would be reviewed, repealed and reviewed eight forty, eight. Now, thirteen ten KFI KIA thirteen ten KFI K.. preps radio is northern. Colorado's home for the past high school coverage potential matchups for the nuggets in the revised NBA playoffs. We'll talk, too. Chris Dempsey on the next hole show thirteen ten KFI. The chance this morning pretty far ranging conversation with Greeley. Police chief Mark Jones but asked him about that sweeping police accountability Bill that actually pass the Senate overwhelmingly I think it was a thirty two to one vote on Tuesday this as the bill moves to the House now. I had to come across a facebook post. from what excuse me Larimer County, Sheriff Justin Smith. Let's just say he wasn't a fan. Well, neither was initially. Greeley State Senator, John Cook. this coordination piece by Cuyler me out of the Greeley trip, saying that when Greeley State Senator Johncock Cook saw the first draft of a Senate bill to seventeen he was. Disgusted I thought the timing of the introduction of that bill with everything else. That is swirling around the country with all of the rest, and well just all the protests that some turning violent, and let's not get it twisted I do support peaceful protests, but when it turns violent, turning innocent business owners in the victims. That's where I draw the line, but senator cooked, said the way it. It was introduced. I was one hundred percent against it. I referred to it as the anti law enforcement bill. It was punishment. It was revenge and thought that sediment was actually echoed by Lamoure County Sheriff Justin Smith in a facebook post, but meanwhile back to Senator Cook. That's what the bill was all about punishment and revenge, but Dan in a rarely seen level of dare I say it's bipartisan collaboration. Cook along with Colorado Springs Republican Bob Gardner were able to discuss amend quite substantially. The law enforcement reform bill such that Cook was actually able to support it along with nearly every other state senator said we had huge concerns. Law Enforcement had huge concerns, and so we worked with them met for several outer hours, so that was Saturday at the capital, and they promised to work on some amendments. Amendments we've met with the ACLU those groups, and it's now a whole new bill. We've got almost everything we wanted. In amendments now among the biggest concerns cook held on behalf of law, enforcement was the limitation of a good faith exception, which by cooks, description is a defense for a law enforcement officer who was operating in good faith, but something amiss occurs. Cook went on to say A. A lot of times an officer acts in good faith, but perhaps there was a mistake, and they wanted to hold the officer accountable for the first one hundred thousand dollars of liability from that mistake cooked, said the officer was not allowed to use insurance money either either to pay that one hundred thousand dollars. The city would've been able to indemnify them. That was the number one thing Cook added several. Several other highlights to this bill that got changed including the definition of a stop, the inclusion of state patrol by the way the initially presented draft at left's state patrol out and the requirement that body camera footage be released without exception within seven days. Cook said I'm all for body cameras. I think that they exonerates law enforcement more often than that seven days. No exceptions I said this in committee. Say Officer talks to a witness who has just witnessed a homicide identifies that person gives a description then the killer sees that on TV well, that's a witness against him. Well, he can just go back and well silence the witness, which has happened or a sex assault on a child say kids in there that has to be released no exception for privacy, and that he said is a huge concern is that he was pleased with the bipartisan effort which he acknowledged was not commonly seen on a bill of this magnitude, eight, fifty-seven, now thirteen ten KFI. K., all sports story in northern Colorado state in the country tune into the whole show weekdays noon to two and thirteen ten Kfi K.. Eight, fifty nine now thirteen ten k. thirteen ten. KFI K. A. DOT COM mornings with. Gail fueled up that Greek Western Petroleum poof morning. It's been and we're going to have a busy show I have for you tomorrow as well, but in the meantime keep it here your home for live and local programming Brady. Hall hosts, Hall Show Course Weekdays noon to to. Now with your host Tanner swint coming your way at four o'clock this afternoon and a K F K A. Classic Bass? UNC bears target game. Coverage lives on thirteen ten KFI, K.

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John & Ken Show Hour 4 (05/14)

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John & Ken Show Hour 4 (05/14)

"John and ken show john kobylt ken. Chiampou kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. Welcome everybody to the last hour. This on friday Fifteen minutes away round one for the voice line folks who john earlier in the show called very intelligent. I think they're a genius philosophers team. There's a lot of lot of that comes out of the moist line. You have to pay close attention though. It's not always obvious. Sometimes it's subtle wisdom. Listen to twice record it. Sometimes you might wanna play it backwards. Secret message make a loop out of it tonight off. The podcast go. There's hidden i there's mysteries in there. One more video thing and i used to love to make fun of this particular kind of video for years. The cat videos of god. Did you see the cat jumped five floors out of a burning building. And it's now pretty cool looking. Yeah we to. I don't feet and runs off stories. Can you do that. If i jumped five feet i would end up in intensive care and have amazing dexterity. I've i've often seen that when i watch him. Climb trees or just the way they can move so fast. If you if if they get scared by your show the other day i was on a sidewalk in the neighborhood and i guess i didn't even see the cat. It was in the bushes and scared. It went running right to the street and it was a car coming i saw. Don't tell me don't tell me. I'm going to be responsible for this. Cat began squished. But it didn't. I'm watching right now. Oh wow pretty cool. He's great and look at that had the instincts to get out of that building. It's not good to here. Hurling cleared a wall to there was a wall outside the building and landed on the grass on the ground on the alex on its feet right. Yeah bounced once. Fives one bounce. Not the dead cat. Bounce live cat bound. That's the nine lives thing how we're going to see what this sounds like. Apparently it really shook up viewers all over the world. Yesterday they were unsettled. His one term. I heard unsettled unsettled. I wake up feeling. Unsettled found it bizarre. They found it disgusting. Some did it is the mayor of new york city. Bill de blasio doing a morning news conference eating a hamburger and fries to make the announcement that you too can get a free shake shack burger and fries if you get vaccinated. This is another attempt by elected officials to get the vaccine hesitant offering sri burgers. So let's see what it sounded like. Thank you so much randi. Thank you to the whole shake shack team. This is really going to help us out. Did you say free fries when you get vaccinated i vaccinated. You're saying i could get this delicious rice. He's my mandate burger and fries. But there's also a burger element to this avesta discussing too early for breakfast. It's you look at this and think about some people love hamburger. Some don't really want to respect all ways of life but if this is appealing to just think of this when you vegan vaccination tobacco that sound. I'm getting very good feeling about vaccination rate this moment. Thank you to rudy. Of course daniel meyer to help us with the recovery. Pc begins to make ourselves carton. Oh he's he's got hundreds and hundreds of people killing and shooting each other and that would be more dignified thing dignified. Here's a story that. I bet you have not heard this. One is brand new on the vaccination radar. We have and i don't think he's going to be the only one guy that runs a store in ontario canada who well he posted on instagram. That vaccinated people should not come into his butcher shop. I repeat no vaccinated people and why is it. Concern is vaccine shedding. Have you ever heard of this. No sounds like a good internet theory though. That's pretty much our vaccine shedding. We have decided that since the majority of our customers are women and since women are most at risk for the side effects we ask that if you've been vaccinated please order curbside pickup or delivery for twenty eight days after being vaccinated. What is he talking about. And by the day it's got a great name who goldberg. Hey yahuda who does you. Who runs a butcher shop. He claims there's evidence that people have been vaccinated are shedding spike proteins which appear to affect women's menstrual cycles. I love hey he what he's reading shows that what he's what is he reading. Shouldn't that be the story. What is he. What is your who reading reading shows. He's cut slabs meet meat for living that being around someone who's been vaccinated can cause reproductive health issues for women and he says in my store i'm going to stand up for women and stand up for women's rights and i'm going to protect my customers. Yes he says he's not a doctor can't serious named vaccine he's not happening is not a doctor and vaccinated. Admit contagious particles is a butcher. The butcher doesn't think you should stand near vaccinated person because they're shutting. What are they shouting. Exactly what proteins proteins. The little spicer protein. There's no spike proteins in the vaccine. We have reached a new level of madness in this country. It's it's like you said earlier. In one corner we got the people that are going to ask forever. Good lord. They were still. Don't wanna come out of their homes. I saw another one of those stories. Today there are so traumatized they don't know if they can ever fully remerged into society. Oh i've got somebody in my face. But some of them are going to the extra therapy. And they're they're like just the most neurotic person i've ever read about right. And they have a like fifty sixty followers who constantly agree. And they're all neurotic to and it's all about wearing a mask anyway. They're all vaccinated. They're all women and they're all going to wear a mask and it doesn't matter where they go they go to the star of the airport. They're gonna go for a walk in the woods. Everybody agreed they are going to wear the masks indefinitely and these were the same people who were scolding the non mask wearer's last year for being anti science being stupid and ignorant and not believing in the science now the same organizations that insisting you should have a mask lashed there are saying you don't need one this year if you're vaccinated and suddenly this crowd ignores them ignores them by suddenly they're anti science ex- the exact same mental disorder that the anti mask people had last year the exact same disorder. Did you have those lawn signs in your neighborhood. We believe in science and they went on with me. Believe black lives matter seen those. Yeah respect for all. I believe you should shut the f up for the rest of your life. And i tell you nobody cares tvs and they come out with their masks on outside their backs. I'm i'm going to say you don't really believe in science. My hairdresser had this client for years and years and years and years and the woman said to her. I'm sorry. I can no longer come to your salon. Because you've been vaccinated. You'll make me sick. Anybody vaccinated will make the unvaccinated people. Sick and jacques there see so this is a new thing that's spreading around. That's the first. I've heard of it so she won't come and get her hair done more. Be caused exactly so at first. My bike protein. My hairdresser have the first vaccine and when this woman got wind of it. She begged her not to get the second vaccine in. My hairdresser said i'm fully vaccinated. And she said. I'm so sorry i hate to say this but i can't come to you anymore. How many days we have left of. What being on this planet you. That's what you're trying to calculate. How many days i have left. I'm going to start marking xs on the calendar like doing prison. When we come back we'll be visited the by. What did you call them. Enlightened a enlightened philosophers enlightened philosophers. Those are mois line friends coming up next johnny. Ken show john kobylt and ken chiampou. Kfi am six forty live everywhere in the iheartradio app. No right so i guess. It's time for the lighten philosophers philosophers on the moist line. You leave a message at our toll. Free number and some of the calls that are collected there harvested at partition organs. One eight seven seven boy. Stadi- six john excited to hear from you. Have the perfect solution if we're going to close down the prison why don't we turn that into homa. Gotta room they got heat got caught up pistou these they got cafes can hospital if self contained perfect place for them to live so i live in a low income apartment building about twenty percent of the people. Here haven't paid their rent. Surprisingly people who haven't paid their rent for a year and a few months now to have grand cars are working really. Is your morals screwed up getting rid of the homeless and let the bison stay at least your work for their food eliminate didn't homeless i want the bison here talk year about the whole of prices within my friends. You know as well as i do that never going to change until one you get rid of all the wacko politicians here in california and to you have to reopen all the data silos across the united states where you can put all these people into a asylum where they'll be taken care of properly then happen you're never gonna call. Tell me why it's our problem that we need to make their lives. Better in these migrant countries for these families and individuals. Why do we have to make it better than them. That country's problem that country lizard. Not somebody is wearing their masks. While they're driving alone in their car they can wear fifty nine man around with the damn those phone while they drive. And then so. Let me get this straight president. House plan that he's doing accumulate. The army by giving which i can in turn us stores that are both because they can't afford a higher anybody and to act on the money i got to use in places. I can't use them. Do you think john cox will win all the votes around big bear and as you give all those voters of ban can be that for all the time spent and all. The money spent on the bullet train. How many reservoirs could we have built route. The state of california and we'd probably have money left over all the rhino trumpsters. You would've got the shot if trump was president. You're saying go. Get the shot you moron. Thank you signed a real reagan republican pay. This might be a reason why people might not want to go to work Everybody's getting high drinking more. Tell them for very now. That's why people want to work. Nice stimulus checks. Yes sir johncock his their on air what. You're seeing the decline of western civilization. They don't push kids to study math or advance math. They one holding back. That's about as stupid as i've ever heard caffeine. You're trying to bribe offering us now. Would a coincidence the governor news. Kim my vote that cheap her daddy's gonna fire love with six hundred dollars. Governor gonna vote the recall. Yo ask now that the cdc and even barbara for rare covering move the outdoor nasc mandate for people who are vaccinated. We have an opportunity to witness the greatest visual iq test of all time book on the streets when you walk around people by themselves walking around outdoors on. I mean really needs are high level on so if the department of education doesn't believe in natural talents and abilities. Can i expect that everyone now to be the quarterback the fake bulking relieving message. Please hang up. Goodbye natural talents. You're right though john. They are ingenious. Yeah there's a lot of wisdom that i just see store here. That walmart is dropping. The mask mandate for fully shoppers trader. Joe's today. I don't think anyone ever wore a mask and walmart. Don't think there was somebody at the door checking for fag. Been uncovered faces is not the problem in walmart. That website people have walmart. Markets other uncovered areas six photos. You're gonna hear more of our voice line friends coming up at about twenty minutes. He should be handicapped pants the front door. Johnny ken show john kobylt and ken chiampou. Kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. We're almost out of here. Got another round of the voice. Line people to play in about fifteen minutes. The nhl has a weird problem. National hockey league is approaching. Its playoffs and i guess they realigned the divisions so that one of them is the all canadian teams But eventually because it's the playoffs and you're trying to crown one winner for the stanley cup. The canadian teams have to play the north american teams with canada. Still quarantine rule. Is that right. Yeah so if the american teams go to canada to play a game there right now into the rules canada. They have to quarantine. I think it's fourteen days looking to slow down the playoffs. Players are probably all vaccinated. That's the argument. The makings arguments your chase. Why don't think they're all with everybody. There's always going to be people that don't want to be back. Said well mandate the vaccine or you're out of the league. How about that one. They're trying to get a travel dispensation. Based on how stringent their covid protocols have been this season and it says more players and teams. Staffers are getting vaccinated so where the blue jays playing there in buffalo last year. Yeah oh i don't sit. Still going on yeah. How does that work with the toronto white candidates so uptight with big stick up its rear end. So they're asking for a decision by june first from the canadian government. About what about this other playing there. Twenty twenty one home games in florida about see. That's what they did to get around the problem. There is spring training site in play in buffalo last year. But they're in florida. Yeah so yeah there. Exiled from their own country. Wow florida has enough bad baseball teams. They well they got a third one. Nobody shows up for tampa bay or marlin game so yeah. They can't play toronto because the minor league team is coming back. Well the times Did another story about bribes to politicians. Of course it's money that flows politicians ways. This is about mayor. Yoga pants eric. When he took office back in two thousand thirteen good lordy years already sky. You'll look around. He launched this charity. The nonprofit mayor's fund he's raised more than sixty million dollars from corporations foundations and individuals but the times founded this sticky part comes in almost four million dollars of it came from contributors who gave through accounts that mask their identity that you see talked about the heston payments view but there were rules on payments which involve reported them to the state. But this is something called and this came up once a few weeks ago. Donor advised funds. Don't the they have a very complicated confusing term right so the lose interest you see. Donor advised funds. It's at well. It's so that some Political parasites can contribute big dollars. Garcetti in exchange for Some kind of favor now. How much now. It says it allows contributors to shield their names organizations when making charitable contributions on behalf of a politician. So the thing is the politician probably knows and he gave the money but the public right. The media is not gonna find out to you because you can remain anonymous. And he's a donor advised fund. Do you think any of the contractors who charge seven hundred thousand dollars for a homeless apartment may be giving money to garcetti's funnier. That's what you wonder. That's exactly the kind of people who do. It doesn't the people who are ripping off the taxpayer at the other end. Garcetti's office reported that a three million dollar donation requested by the mayor came into the mayor's funded december an undisclosed account holder made. The gifts were donor advised. Fund overseen by bessemer trust a wealth management firm got to be a contractor garcetti. Spokes whole commerce declined to reveal the individual the company behind the three million dollar donation. Say well they're trying to fix like who. What could garcetti control. That would make a three million dollar donation worth it and really when you're the mayor what you control is the developers menegon a lot to be earned there. You could control condo buildings and hotels things like that where The developer is going to be spending billions of dollars to develop a large parcel of land or put up fifty storey hotel. Whatever it is so the three million is nothing. I'm most businesses. Can't spend three million and again there. Aren't that many issues that that garcetti has any power over anyway. But he controls permits building. Permits environmental clearance. That sort of thing i betcha. That's a contractor in case you're wondering why the homeless apartments cost seven hundred thousand dollars and why it costs a hundred and thirty thousand dollars from eight by eight shed. That would be another clue. Asked to comment for this story. The mayor's fund chief executive detroit. Lynn said ono. The focus should be here on the two hundred and fifty five thousand angelenos and counting who've received a vaccination thing got money to put food on the table at business open yet. This is what the mayor's on does donor. yeah now. If we went through an employee list how many employees do you think are related to politicians or city administration officials. How many of them have their Wives girlfriends mistresses deadbeat kids. That beat brother-in-law littered all over. It's amazing fans out or it's like peeling the onion. You know you're trying to figure out a way to stop corrupt politicians from staying corrupt by doing something about campaign contributions so they come up with a campaign contribution laws and somebody says. Well what we'll do. We'll have these special nonprofit funds donate to them so all right. We want to know who they are two. Then now we're called. Donor advised funds so then the individual gives to some other middleman. Reveal her denting and then middle. Dan gives to the mayor's they pass amazing how they just completely. Because it past hummers things up these bare bones Regulations on political fundraising and political donations. You know there's a two thousand dollar limit teeth to it right but there's nothing that stops you from setting up a fake nonprofit and then these Billionaires can give millions of dollars anonymously to the fake nonprofit and then you have the spoke soul saying allen. No you know. What we're doing is providing scholarships for Youthful entrepreneurs in the okay typical corruption. Here you go goldman sachs Gave a quarter million dollars and The gift went to a youth employment program a youth employment program. I i always read about these youth employment programs. How come there's thousands of youths on the streets in gangs shooting each other up every night. How come those guys never get into the youth. Employment program goldman sachs. Buddy never reaches that crowd you. Of course they are employed. They're running drugs and weapons. So they're making money. We got another round of johnson. What are they again. The enlightened philosopher enlightened philosophers otherwise known as the moist line people coming every call has some wisdom. You just gotta be listening closely. John and ken show john kobylt and ken chiampou. Kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. Oh it looks. It looks like costco to got the no mask if you're vaccinated Go to costco. Never mind now. I'm in the twenty one of my boyfriend. He won twenty one when they returned. All your items because you stepped away from your cart. Yes was renders. I have on stepped in a costco once one years. Yes that's pretty good. Say boycott. I mean it. Just blow off steam. It's like. I'm never buying that time i went in there. I didn't buy anything. I don't even have card. Would you do that if it was in and out the defended you. Actually i boycotted in and out for Did that remember you saying. They won't make the burger medium rare anymore that i forgot. You're very active. It's time to finish up with the boy. Slide folks the enlightened philosophers. Leave a message and you might be part of the playback of some of the calls. One eight seven seven eighty-six john and ken. We're so excited to hear from you. It's about time finding money then governor to all california's money again. But yeah before the recall. Yeah i think we gonna do to him when he us all the time and jump event but anyway matter how you look at name is going to get it back from us anyway. Higher taxes can't win. You know the one thing. Nice about youtube is that people have posted all kinds of old educational videos from the forties and fifties and watching those. I learned that soybeans are used in all kinds of chemical slapstick and cosmetic products other than mommy one of the tv business shows. An analyst was talking about the newsom bribery and she referred to him as gavin newsom. I've decided to use my bribe to help. Refinance the recall the kenya's strawberries and lemon lotion lack of strawberry lemonade and strawberry lemonade. friday afternoon. In many of you are in europe cars and trucks probably on your way home after a long week. If you're alone in your car truck right now take quick. Look in the rear view mirror yourself. If you wearing a mask take thing to look like a fool. You look like vite and when he walks in charleston. Open field kenny team. Stop getting that vaccine. There's no way. I don't trust this government for anything but this is all scan the whole thing scam and i'm not putting back on my body. I'm not gonna do guys rx. You got comfortable. You've lost touch with reality. Friendly gen headed sane. Oh the seductive little details. And i thought it was a family friend that acted more than you. Don good work. I think there's another reason why people are going back to work and the unemployment appointment could also be that a lot of people. Don't wanna wear a mask or whether at work for eight hours. Covert maintain can infect and destroy. My billing does that mean. I need a johnson and johnson and johnson vaccine debra mark smokes pot. Oh well that explains. It is the pipeline connected to the internet ridiculous. Why is the electrical grid connected to the internet. That's ridiculous to somebody. Please hire me. I mean come on veteran educated. Hire me and that's clean bathrooms for fourteen dollars. An hour hiring john kobylt you are an amazing individuals. It just baffles me that you can say something very intelligent and then two sentences later. Say some of the dumbest. I've ever heard in my life. Keep it real brother. Hey guess and are stupid governor. Newsom time for you. 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Episode 119  Conversion Killers for Photography Sites with Jan Koch

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Episode 119 Conversion Killers for Photography Sites with Jan Koch

"Welcome to the wordpress photography. Podcast the podcast for photographers. Who want to learn how to get the most out of wordpress to grow their photography business. You don't need to be a geek to understand wordpress settled back and listen as we show you how. Now here's your host scott widen kipah wits. Welcome to episode one hundred and nineteen. My name is scott wine wits. And today i'm joined by my guest. Johncock host the wbz agency summit and consults businesses on hosting their own virtual events. His agency power community driven businesses that serve digital agencies to host virtual event so they can grow their loyal audience and establish thought leadership. When he's not working on the business he loves spending time with his wife and daughter were chasing his silver lab through his backyard. So welcome yon finally. We're connecting And i'm glad to have you in. This is going to be a really good a really good educational discussion for a lot of photographers around the world. Thank you so much. I haven't meets code. It's an honor so everybody where you're from because obviously you've got a different accent than i do so allow share a little bit a little bit about your backstory absolutely so i am from germany so english is not my native language bandwidth we if i mess up. Sometimes i do my best. I started using what press in. Twenty twelve's Originally where. I got in touch with his online marketing digital space and in thousand thirteen. I decided to become seven employed. And i haven't looked back since so it's the best thing ever for me. And as you mentioned we have a small family here that is supported by lend business and virtual events and stuff like that recently acquired vitual summit mastery dot com. which is the leading course for running ritual events. It's actually the cause. I took to run. Majority wants to learn how to do the the right process out to make sure that the events are successful and stuff like that. So excited about this. But i'm also very much looking forward to talk about all the good stuff. We have coming up today for sure. So you started using president who doesn't twelve. I just did a quick. Google search that means you started using wordpress inversion around three point four. Yep that's really interesting. I love hearing that. I love hearing because like every stage of wordpress has a different look in a different function that didn't exist in the past and it's always fun to see a just a date myself a bit. When i first started using wordpress was still version one and there is no gallery system so i started using extra gallery. Whatever your it was version one. that's yeah so so what. What is your your favorite thing about. Wordpress that As helped you stick with it and You know that helps keep you. You intrigued and interested in one to recommend it to others. Yeah that's a really good question. And they are two aspects. One is how flexible the system. It's like you can do almost everything with repes- if you know your way around. Php and my sequel pretty much do a lot of things with what president than i'm not a developer by trade. I've learned a business consultant Studied for business consultant so What i needed to rely on especially in the beginning is the community and education from the community and by diving into the community mercy myself into that and sharing what. I'm learning learning from others. That is what really made me. Stick with what press because there are so many tutorials out there. There are so many helpful people that you can just approach on twitter or stack overflow or whatever in any facebook group that you might find your own wordpress people want to help you if you post is somewhat relevant question left on your homework before that so That's the best thing ever now with the virtual events that i'm hosting i'm seeing this to speak from all across the globe just willing to volunteer to speak and to help me get the word out of what i'm doing. I think that is the best thing about many other. Cms can out from for sure. Yeah the community is definitely one of the best aspects of wordpress. The is great. But you don't get the same experience community wise that you do with software In the websites based like yes sure. There's facebook for squarespace or or wicks one up but the interactions are not nearly as as in depth as you get in the wordpress based plus these dedicated events. Both what used to be in person basically barely virtual these days I can't wait to get back to the in person stuff. how many can you have any work camps. have you been to. I'm just one. I have to admit were europan. Twenty eighteen in berlin. Did you speak at it or you just an attendee. I just wasn't made some friends for the first time cool. yeah at. we're camp europe. That's one of the bigger of the two big ones where camp europe in your work camp. is it. I think it's called. Us i think they change computer as it is. Yeah location every year. Think right yet location. Yeah so you own a press agency and you run an agency summit i can you. Can you explain what we're press. Agency is what. I ate agency in the in. The broadest terms is simply an agency that uses what press to deliver website for customers. So when you talk to those agency owners or maybe even freelancers As you would seventy hear them say that they said what press but they say a website and they happen to use wordpress because represents the best tool for them and to be frank. That is the angle they should take. I think because Declines they serve or declines. Is they don't care whether it's West squarespace wakes whatever. They just want a website that that delivers the results. That looking for so usually that it's more brand exposure. It's more leads. More sailed stuff like that and whether that happens to be done with wordpress or any other to couldn't be of less important for them One thing that that just to my mind is I think the day before we are recording this automatic launch the done for you services where they build websites four thousand nine hundred. Us doesn't up. And i saw so many mixed feelings about those in the community but my initial thought was that most. What agency owns some freelance Should thank them for that because they know i think have set a baseline for what you should charge for website. I see many many people when it comes to running an agency running freelance business. They undercut themselves on prices. Way too much. I think when you go to fiber for example you get four hundred dollars or something like that. Essentially they just slept theme on the site and then If you can now get to the right clients and they ask you for quote and you open the discussion with well. The founders of what press charge five grand for the most basic website. I can do it for four and a half so that immediately doubled the prices of most agencies. I would assume at least smaller ones. Yeah that's a. It's it's been interesting watching the discussion on on the more on the on the agency side in in on social media since that announcement came out You know it. I think it impacts everybody in the we're space but definitely of course agencies more Because now you're talking the the largest Wordpress development company in theory Is is now offering something that you offer or you know other people offer and it's just a you can you can take a multiple ways you can take it as as ooh that hurts or you can take it as a good. There's another company serving clients That maybe you know they'll try them and they won't like the experience come to me and young coming over competition. Yeah i think it all comes down to the loyal audience that you're building for agency and what i thought when i saw this is that they are just creating another revenue stream for potential. Ipo later this year so they're just trying to make the company more attractive and that is the job of every entrepreneur and every business owner. So i don't think you can blame them for them. Maybe they could have communicated a little bit better and made it more like obvious what they are doing right right right. Yeah i'll be sure to linked to that in the show notes. Nobody's interested in seeing What what what. A matic announced So everybody knows what agency is now gone. can you explain what. Wbz agency summit is. That is the one which i think all. Wbz agency owners need to attend that. Obviously i'm biased. Because it's my conference. But it's essentially an event hosted for professionals and business owners who happen to us wordpress to build websites and serve their clients. And i'm bringing together. Industry leading experts that either have grown raving the successful agencies For the summit. I had the founder of ten up. I had the founder of what they've studios and seminar people on there I bring in marketing. Experts like bridget will yard for twitter marketing. For example i bring in other ceos and founders of raving the successful companies in the space example the founder of wbz media the phone of delicious brains Another co founder of studios was on one of the panels. That i hosted. And it's a mix of prerecorded sessions live webinars. That go live during certain time. And it's essentially a conference taken online where you have a certain start date and end date and in that time you can see all the conference contents for free. The prerecorded contents there was a thirty. Six prerecorded sessions last year. And then i had. I think ten life events. So that's life webinars in panel discussions group discussions and those are all tailored to help the attendees grow their businesses from all sorts of angles. So i run a business. But i don't know everything when it comes to growing the business. That's why i tried to bring on experts or know a lot more than i do. As it's purely for selfish reasons i if i'm on this because i want to grow my business and then i just asked them some questions that i know from overseeing what con- what communications go on facebook groups for example on twitter. I see the quest the same questions. Come up over and over again and those happen to be the questions that i'm facing to when i'm growing my agency and those are the topics i want to talk about with the industry experts and then everything is available for free. Why the vendors live and after the event is what you can pay to get lifetime access to all the sessions awesome. Yeah no it's It's a very smart thing to create something that is educational for the masses. But it but selfishly is for yourself right. It's it's 'cause you're you're you're only benefiting everybody at that point but you have your goal in mind and in a way you have in your goals in mind helps others more because the content is being curated more than what you want and i also had another different as an interesting conversation with rent fish skin the corner from us on on the i w p summit i did in two thousand fifteen and we were talking about Me not being native english speaker. And i was telling him camera that it might be a disadvantage for me because there was Still is some form of imposter syndrome. Another i gonna talk. Because i am very mess things up and i do from time to time but nobody really cares. Luckily knee said not being a native english speaker as an advantage. Because it makes me listen more carefully and that is something that i just wanted to get out there for everybody who's listening who also struggles with impulsive syndrome from time to time. Whatever you think is a disadvantage tried to turn it into an advantage and for me listening carefully because they have to process actively what the counterpart the interview speak into is saying makes me dig deeper into their questions. Sometimes that's great advice. I definitely suffer from imposter syndrome as well and That is definitely definitely great advice. And i completely agree with rand I think Not only do you listen more carefully. But i also think that in some ways that we're press i mean it's forty percent of the internet at this point to right And i might even argue that. Majority of that is not in the united states that A very very large portion is in europe and And and all over so people can identify more with people who are speaking english. But also obviously not i nate native include speakers before so You know it's I think it is an advantage for you in some ways as well Okay let the. Let's dive into the topic for today. the topic is basically conversions for photography websites. The first thing we wanted to talk about was google analytics. This is something that hopefully by now every photographer is using google analytics for their websites There's if you're not. There's a lot of plug into that can help. Set it up for you Monster and sites one in the one that. I actually have been using this kit. Which made by google now and That makes it really easy to only set up your analytics but connected all from your press back in basically But hopefully everybody is using google analytics. How can photographers Identify conversion killers on their websites. That's a really good point. And one thing i would like to pre face this conversation with instead if you have implemented google analytics awhile ago. Please go into your account and double check that it's updated version four because at some point version three. I think it came out like october november last year At some point version three eventually was stop sending you data and then you're left with nothing if you didn't update Conversion killers is one thing that i think everybody every website owners should be aware of at some point. And it all depends on your current situation. So i would start with defining the goals like what goal. Desio website wants to achieve if. You're a photographer chances. Are you want people to get onto your contact. Page to book a shooting with you. You want people to get onto your pricing page. So that you know that what you're showing them on your website is enticing enough for them to consider to hiring you you want people to click on the call me button to book a call with your to schedule a call with you. All these inflammations as something that you have to define before we even started about talking conversion because if you don't know what the main goals on your website are what are you going to optimize for that. That is that's the first step i would take and then when it comes to looking into google analytics it easy is overwhelming but luckily i think you don't need to understand. All that is going on there you can easily spend two months in google ended it takes to muster it. But i don't think you need it What i would start with is when you look into google analytics. I'm looking into my account right now. you want to look at the overall development of your traffic like so traffic. Going up is traffic going down. That is i would say the first thing that you immediately should consider. google presents. That right on the dashboard. Then what i would do is i would look are brilliantly perfect then i would look into the Audiences and i would see where the people are coming from for photography sites. Obviously you want to have local traffic. You don't want to target people if you're located in new york. Don't want to target people in san francisco for example. It doesn't make sense. They won't drive overall flyover to book with in most cases. A annesley like some form of sedan cvt photographer. He wanted to make sure that. When you are in the audience tap or in in google a four i think it's called acquisition in music. -sition you can see where the uses a common from and you can see in the audiences on a very beautiful map how your users a distributed in google analytics where they're coming from and that indicates where you should focus your efforts on creating new users is it like google listing for example. Is it getting more exposure in local magazines on your local on the newspapers like that. Is it getting more active and local facebook groups that you want to participate in drive traffic back to your website and When you are talking about all the traffic acquisition what you should keep in mind is that google can actually tell you. The conversion rate in psychedelics the true percentage rate if tracking his Which in the in the. Us is way less strict then. It is in europe with gdp. Are that stuff What you can do in google analytics in google analytics. Four there is a section called all events where you have predefined events so that is Click is an event fire downloads. The first visit is event page. Scroll and so on what you can do. Is you can target events based on the pages that you have on your websites so for example you can set up event for page view on your portfolio page so that you see how many people come onto your website. Actually see the pictures that you're gonna see the galleries. You can target an event for your pricing page for your contact page on. I highly recommend you do that. Because this gives you numbers to operate on gives you like a base nine and what is a little bit. Tricky is that when you create an event takes around twenty four hours in google to show so you have to be patient with that You cannot like google in this things. It's a little bit slow but what you can do. You can create these events and then give give it like a week or two to collect some data before you really decide anything and then it gives you a good idea of reaching goals that you want to say for example one to have five percent of all the traffic coming to your website landing on the contact page and sending you a message debts way you get that five percent from and if you see that you're at one percent rather than five you can look at way or website is leaking the traffic so that would be in the engagement step in oakland analytics. You can see the number of views certain pages on your website. Get you can see the time on page people spend on these individual pages you can see the bounce rate on these individual pages and if you just take like an hour or so to go through the list of those pages you will immediately see where people spend more time with We have people spend less time and where people actually leave your website without taking any action and that is the that that is one way to identify conversion cassettes. That's what i would do is focus on those pages that stick out the most and then work your way up from there and one thing pay for stub rambling here. One thing is just do one change at a time and then give a week or so at least before you measure the results because if you change five different things on five different places and you see the metrics improve or decrease you don't know which of these five changes cost the chain essentially so you just won't be testing one step at a time. So google analytics has A lot of areas where you can dive deep into your your audience and pages that are that are serving well and different events that are going on your site and all these different things and as you said you can spend two months to to dig into it and even then you only scratching the surface for you. How far down the rabbit hole. You can go but goo goo lennox is free for everybody who wants to use it. I'm dr paid for. There's a paid version of it. But i don't think people do that. There is an alternative that is fairly new but offer something really interesting. We've been using it on the image. The website and i've been using on my photography websites ends called. Microsoft clarity also free And i find it fascinating to To go through this now. I view services like it in the past Services like click tracking heat mapping and even a tracking which is basically just mouse movement. And i. it's they're fun To to to look into All the data and watch the videos that go on and and whatnot charge. Love and a lot of money and microsoft is making this free as of now. You never know what's going to happen in the future which shocked me the fact that they made this free So can you share a little bit from your side of clarity. How a comparison to who olympics. And things you can find for conversion optimization stuff from there absolutely i think you nailed it. I will shock to win. Microsoft announced it and i was really hesitant to to put something for bikers soft on my website even though i am a pc user. I switched from make like three years ago. I was hesitant to to trust myself with this but on the with all that they are doing recently. They're going into the right direction in terms of the open source community What i really love about clarity is the heat map tracking the recording the sessions. I think it's not a full replacement for Because analytics dive so much deeper into the traffic. Like the traffic sources demographics this split between devices that the geographical information that you can get it all so much deepa so much better in google analytics. But what you can see in clarity Dozens of you are those heat maps in those recordings and i've just To refresh my memory. Just before call went through the recordings from one of my online shops that sells a merchandiser online event. And it's so cool to see pupil actually on their phone browsing. And just you see where people tap and stuff like that and that is Depending on how many how much traffic you have. You can spend another two months in clarity watching although session recordings but what would. I would love what i would advise to do. Is i would combine the two things so when you identify the pages that you think have in google analytics or thanks for bringing this up. That's amazing you see The pages in google analytics that you want to look at and then in clarity you can go into the recording tab for example you can open that you are and then clarity shows you how people are actually using specific era which i think is really really helpful because it identifies if people are clicking on the right things for example if you have this very fancy design. Sometimes what happens is links aren't identifiable things easily or buttons earned identifiable as buttons and nobody clicks on them and instead they take on the slide show or something like that because they see something moving there and it's the same with the heat maps really. I prefer heat maps recordings because the heat maps show aggregated data whereas the recording is just one user per recording which i think is less statistically significant but both tools combined. Give you a lot of clarity on the sections where people get stuck where people don't understand something for example if you have these really fancy photos and people spend four minutes watching your photos on the website and then leave the page. That's a sign for you to interrupt them at some point. Maybe a pop up after two minutes if necessary or just reduce the gallery to normal size after two minutes because nobody's really looking for forty minutes onto photo and just admiring every detail because you're not uploading photos and four k. Ideally that will take us to two minutes to download a picture from the website. I love to share. Two things that i think would be really cool Once really cool one. That was a good finding that that i discovered using clarity actually yesterday or two days ago. I discovered this. So what. what's going to be really cool. Is you were talking about how the video recordings are one at a time right which i still get pulled into that rabbit hole. I wind up watching any of them. Because you know it is what how people are interacting with your website but it would be cool it for microsoft to down the road whether it's a paid upgrade or still part of the free platform please make it part of the plea free platform that they use. Ai to basically take these recordings and see what everybody's doing and then put it together. Basically the ai saying look this is what people are doing. And this is how you can improve it or like. Here's our recommendation based on what people are doing on your site because they know you know. Hey i can can determine what's happening and can mix just. I mean look addicts. They have these new insights feature that. Give you these. Ai driven piece of advice on your analytics right so that would be cool if they if they find a way to use ai to to aggregate all these video clips into actionable advice right now regarding the the the heat map with the click tracking on imagery website on our pricing page. We have been comparison table of all the plans. Right do got the the at the top is the pricing comparison with a little bit of info. And then you can. Scroll down to see more with the be. Comparison turns out that people were actually clicking are trying to click on the first column which is a name of a feature right. And i'm like oh wait. That's not a link but a lot of people are trying to click it. No-one our projects is to go into that comparison table and make all those clinical obviously to new to from a conversion standpoint. You want those into a new tab. You don't want to pull people away from pricing. Pricing page may maybe just editor or something explaining the tool. Yeah yeah so There's something active work on now over. The next couple of months is how do i. How do i optimize so people are clicking for no reason right so what do you think makes makes them. Click on that element is is it. The design is at the position. What we think it could be that. It's just a little bit of text in a column. That looks like i mean. It's the colors. just black text. It could be that people are just trigger-happy on their with their mouth really. There's no way to know. But i mean there was a lot of people do it so i figured it's worth worth exploring to figure out how to make that. Easier for people are nicer for people who actually are trying to click this. That's actually a really good point that you're bringing up here is always come from the perspective of improving the user experience. I think that that is something. I should have highlighted. Earlier is when we are talking about this conversion rate optimization. The ankle for the website own obviously is to get more leads to sell more photos on nine to say mookie or whatever but that's not what we can focus on doing conversion optimization. We need to make the experience for the website visit at the best that it can be served them and then by doing that. Guide them through the decision making process. Yeah so. I do have an article with a video on the log on clarity and explained how you can actually connected to your website. Either doing it with their. You know their Javascript snippet they can put into Into or by installing the plugin. There's even a free microsoft clarity plugging at microsoft produced so there's multiple ways you can do If you want check that will link to that article in the show notes as well So you wanna talk more about goals How to maybe determine what goals and how you wanna track those or anything you want to dive into into the goals because when it comes to conversion as you said earlier if you don't have the goals then you're not tracking forty up. Yeah there is a saying that What's get what gets measured gets improved that the name was said that escape me right now but that's a mantra. I really live by and when it comes to goal setting. I've touched upon it in the beginning that you should identify what your website should do for you. So whether that is generating more calls inquiries via web form Whether you have a booking calendar on there so people can book book meetings with you stuff like that once. You have that in place Reverse engineer how. You won't get there. So i would ignore clarity. If you're beginning in this process. I would ignore mix of clarity. I would still install it. But i would not vote worry about it too much because you just want to collect data and the beginning i would go into google analytics. Now would identify I've written on four key. Metrics that i think are really important. That is decreased bounce rate on your page. That is how quickly people are leaving page without doing anything without clicking on a link to a different page on your website for example and you can do that by Testing various things so it could be related to the traffic source. Just could be that you're randomly ranking for keyword that isn't relevant to the content on your blog. I've had that multiple times happen Could be that you are linked from some random page that drives traffic. That isn't relevant Could also be that your copy on the website or the the layout on the website isn't compelling enough to to make people want to click onto the call to action that you have and that is that Clarity comes in. After you've collected some data you can see where those elements are where people drop off. And don't scroll any for that. Don't click on the city as the stuff like that. Then i would focus on increasing the time on page that people spend on your page that is always assigned for somebody is actually consuming what you have put onto the website so whether that is browsing through the image galleries that you have whether that is Going through the about page learning more about who. You are what you doing. What your approach to photography is whether that is defining was setting in the setting up a form that qualifies leads like Do you want a wedding shoot. You want family shoot to you. Wanna baby shoot. What timeframe do you want to do the shoot in how many people stuff like that. You can go crazy with these forms. You know that video content. Yeah content that's really Really big right now in the photography industry where Photographers are now starting to comfortable in front of the camera and adding a video on their about page instead of just being text and votto right so that you can. You can take that idea and bring in two other pages talking about your pricing on the pricing page and talking about the booking process and the session process on the booking page. So yeah i love that that. That's a really good to increase the time on page and to be honest when i started doing more video i mean right now for those watching. I do have a pretty fancy setup now but that certainly wasn't the way i started. I just started with a simple logitech. Webcam in my my my room when i lived with my parents so it wasn't wasn't like that and it doesn't need to be and the the benefit you have been photographer. Is you have the nice ear. So circling lipid beg to impose syndrome. Don't let that hold you back from putting video. I think just makes much more relatable. You're bring up a great point. Here's scott Then obviously coming back to the metrics we talked about the bounce rate and we talked about the time people spend on your page the third point i would say all the conversion metrics so when you set up your goals in google analytics i would look at those as the third thing because first of all you want to ensure that you have the right daytime auto to base decision on if you have fifty website visitors a week then. That's not valid data. It's not statistically significant to do any decision with fifty visits you want to have like one hundred conversions each before you can even start testing it. It hurts to hear this probably because depending on your traffic levels it takes a while to get there but you just have to be patient. I think to to go that route into to just Yeah wait for the data to pie up until you can make an informed decision on what you can actually change on your website. And then the fourth metrics i would say is improved the number of pages people open on a visit on your website so that is doing a better job in guiding people through the website and making them look at the areas of your website like the contact from the pricing page the about page guiding them through those pages and guiding them by that through the decision making process you. There's a. there's a photographer that that I've had on the on the show. I think twice or three times. Remember at this point but One thing that that he. Brian capper ritchie. has always pushed for with photographers. Is treating your websites. Photography website like a any other business funnel so when somebody comes to his website for a wedding. He directs them to a wedding funnel. And then there's like there's a page where there's the gallery There's another paid down the funnel where which is another page which is information about his work. You know how he handles weddings. And there's another one where it's Testimonials about weddings. And then another one. Where the bookings. So it's like a legit funnel with beautiful called actions button that get you to the next page So it would be good for a lot of talk treating their websites as a funnel basically handle all all these these key point that you just brought up in one shot if you treat you website like a funnel. You're doing that all really would i. One hundred degree with that. Like for every type of service that you offer. You should have separate fun. I one hundred percent agree with it. But it's it's a lot of work to set this up. Oh yeah yeah. And that's where like what if you're just getting started. Just get a website up you know. Pick up the image theme star with preset. Get the website up right done. Wants your business growing. You can then start worrying about you know okay. Do i now design this myself. Do i now optimizes myself or to hire somebody like yawn to do this for me. Right so How do you know if you don't have the budget brand new start with the the the least amount of effort to get your your site up your site. Is your business card. You need a site no matter what you worry about the rest later. Let let let let microsoft clarity gather all that data for for two years until you start seeing a revenue up and you need to expand or grow or do whatever it is for your website. You need to do you know. That's a one hundred ninety. So is there anything else. You'd like to share Any final tips or advice you want to share with the listeners and viewers before we wrap this up. I think we've covered a lot of ground in conversational ready. So what i would like to emphasize on is always put your visitor. I whenever you do in these optimization things always put yourself in the shoes of your visitors thing about what they want to achieve on the website. What what questions they have. What needs they want to get served by coming to your website whether that is just browsing around for photographers in your area. That is actually booking you. Because they're already familiar with you count from that perspective and then don't rush things give yourself time to properly execute the tests. Don't over think. All those tests. I see many people who unfortunately let themselves hold bag by all the options that you have in the space. You can tweak so many things on website whether it's button color whether that worrying of headline whether that's placing an image left or right don't over think it s you said it's get started and then it rate one step at a time. That is i think the most important takeaway for sure great advice Thank you for joining me today. can you please tell the listeners. The absolute best place to find more information about you. The best place for now is wbz agency summit dot com but this will not be so relevant for people in the space. If it s for photographers. I do have a facebook group that i would like to plug that it's called w. p. mastery and this is for people who use wordpress so if you are what as us if you want to learn more about how to make the most out of your what website check out the wb must reface book group. We are roughly one thousand five hundred people and they're all very helpful. Were coming community awesome. 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 California Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom

It's All Political

49:14 min | 2 years ago

California Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom

"Welcome to. It's all political. The San Francisco Chronicle is political podcast. I'm Joe gear. Fully the chronicles senior political writer and today on the podcast. Our guest is California. Lieutenant governor Gavin Newsom he's running to be the governor of California, not Newson. I've known each other professionally for about fifteen years or so so instead of getting deep into the policy weeds with them and Lord knows the dude can go deep into the weeds. I wanted to explore different side of them wanted to know what he learned from his perspective from his time as the San Francisco politician, also talks in-depth hear a lot about his dyslexia. It takes him roughly an hour preparation for every minute of speech e gives because of them, and we bust up some facts and fiction about his childhood was he really born with a silver spoon. His mouth like Republican opponent Johncock said on this. Podcast recently. Next getting in depth. But not in the weeds with Gavin Newsom. Governess? Welcome to. It's all political. Good veer. All right now, we've known each other professionally fifteen years or so we're gonna go to look back your career and life in the bay. What shape? Do you shouldn't have said. He has already regret already regretting. Yeah. You have income inequality is is the is one of the most profound issues that affect our our culture today. And and as you know, one of the lines of attack of your opponent is pushing the line that arc in everything as he threw me, and I'm accountable to every single bad thing in the country. Not just our stay. Yes. Yes. Besides that. He said on this very podcast. You're born the silver spoon. Your mouth and the truth is a little more complex, preferably your parents. When your tears old largely raised by your mom, Tessa substan- jobs exclusively raised by my mother. I love my dad, but exclusively rise and your dad was an attorney who ties with very wealthy Getty family or friends that getting kids growing up. Kinda whipsawed between these two worlds. You you're with your your mom three hundred sixty days a year. That's whip sign up to define you what you were. So you're exposed to these two worlds how did that shape? Your your your your mom one time, we might not have presents for Christmas. And then you're you're on the European vacation. What did you learn about the two worlds shape what you're coming? My mother raised me the older, I got then I had the opportunity is a teenager perhaps to to experience, you know, once a year or so things that certainly my mother couldn't afford to allows to experience. So to the extent that opened my eyes to different world, it certainly did necessarily shape my world my world was shaped by my mother where was shaped by reality. That was present twenty four seven to the extent. It was an exception. The experiences that I was fortunate enough to. Have because of a family association. I imagine it's not completely dissimilar to others growing up that have other resources that are not in direct or rather indirect. Contrast, the experience I haven't home it just happened to be those experiences around travel were were extraordinary, but also other extrordinary relationships with people doing amazing things that inspired me and enliven me. My mother worked for aid dude option especial kids, the default family, people intellectual developmental disabilities. One of the reasons I'm still very involved in the Special Olympics and some involved with best buddies and was involved with hiring folks when I was mayor with an onshore disability. So all those are just syrup Wentz in life when architects life, your your experiences architect, your life in sort of amassing of all those experiences crate of the person that's in front of you. We all have those in our own respective lives as well. And then. Didn't think that I wanna talk to you about is your this Alexia that that shape that which? I become more and more intrigued with how you know. After hearing you certainly during our talk here, there'll be many, facts and figures. Disseminated by I like stats, but it. How much time does it take you to prepare for giving? A let's say a fifteen minute presentation, where you're were you, how do you walk us through the process that that how you because it's very difficult for you to say, I mean, I it's not a gross exaggeration probably an exaggeration. But not a gross exaggeration every minute. There's an hour connecting to that of reading rereading distilling. What I reread aggregating it contextualising it. And then present it, I rarely rarely read speeches. I had speech handed to me. I won't even bother to read it I would have to practice and reread something dozens of times in order to feel comfortable with it. I would have almost impossible time if it's on paper, and I look up I would lose my space immediately. So the closest approximation speeches that I read. Would be a state of the city speech that I know requires some cogent considerations to glan time, and like and those are teleprompters which are spatially easy to read and not lose your your place. So it's profoundly difficult. It still doesn't get easier. You just learned overcompensate, but there's normal amount of time and energy put into the things that are unseen to make it seem a little bit easier. When few of someone presents something like orally to. I mean, like, here's here's a is that one of the things better for you too. So I always in my business. You know, one of the reasons I think our businesses became successful as their visually appealing meeting. I'm very visual in the experiential, the sights the sounds of smells all that very sensitized to tickly folks with dyslexia, I think have a disproportionate sensitivity to their surrou-. Roundings they sort of feel rooms there's a sensitivity to rooms. But there's there's a lot of there's a sort of over-compensation visualizations a consequence. Extending answer your question. I can intellectually deal with an issue. But I have to see it firsthand. You're gonna talk to me about homelessness. I gotta get out on the streets. You've talked to me about a project. I gotta go out and see the site all of a sudden, then at three dimensional is it and ask completely different resonance different meetings. So I spent a great deal of time walking around connecting to the issues to the extent, I can because all of a sudden, then those issues are made real. And as a consequence of that, I can grasp can appreciate I can understand them. What is that? That will be challenge when you're the governor a huge state. So that you gotta get gotta get out. I look I opened my office as Lieutenant governor incubator in the south of market in San Francisco. So I wasn't isolated on the sixth seventh floor of the state building was security guards. And sheriff's deputies around me. So as governor that would be my same approach. It wasn't was mayor. I mean, there wasn't a Friday rare. Was there Friday where I didn't walk around the streets, particularly tenderloin. Used to take the cable car down to work and then walked from the cable car to the civic past Civic Center into into my office, drug my staff, crazy Fridays. Everyone was here we go. It's gonna complain about panhandling. Open drug use all kinds of related quality of life issues. But that that's a way of sort of expressing way of connected in and I still porna- me and will continue to be successful as governor one. Of course, you know, nationally for for one of the first de first major city mayor to Lee to marry same sex, folks, that's retrospect, that's a politically crazy move thirty six days into your first term, and you know, obviously. Gotten much national praise for this. This has become the law of the land. But. Onto the lot of we're going to talk about this day. You got a call. I believe on election night. From Senator Feinstein who said that you help George Bush the backlash to that. Which helped George W Bush win the election. I read that paper naturally in call. Oh, she did not. In fact, I was with her lunch that day her election day lives, I spent sitting next to her. We were so sure of the outcome. The election for Kerry. So the prize to read that in the paper the next day as much as anyone she didn't make a call. She didn't make this. She she wasn't upset with you know. I mean, we never nearly had it out afterwards. But you know, it's I read what she said about it, and she spreads nothing during the lunch real spent a lot of time together prior in the lunch, but nonetheless, she had a different point of view. She was hardly in the minority. She was no vast majority of folks, and she was hardly the more moderate of the voices. There was some of the most progressive icons never chronic party. That were even much more of a trio like in much more. A negative than just a Sesing. As a pundit is what she did what she believed happened because of that issue. Others expressed very sharp. Critique. The what the out of a chip you're thirty six year old guys are first year in office listed that what did that you're coming out with a with a major, you know, sort of a very paradigm shift, and you get this blowback from the from hardly people are supposedly in your same. How did that change? You just hardens you you, you know, whether yourself through it, and you know, I think it shaped a couple of first of all these all the same people that were telling me universally the same thing do the right thing. Stand up on principle. We come and go and politics. And then all of a sudden, I do that never was how could you do that? Why did you do that? Not this way have done it that way too much too soon. Too fast, should've waited. And so all of that, you know, that was difficult. I mean, it was not an easy process. I I remember one of the most significant moments of all that was watching CNN, and there was a scroll CNN when they started those scrolls where it said mayor Daley Sukagaw said he would have done the same thing had he been a mayor of Cook County, and that was a big moment for me. It was sort of the first public expression of elected official least well known official that had my back. Right. I remember calling him expressing great appreciation for that. Because he truly was the exception. You know, so it was difficult. There was a lot of soul-searching numbers not just weeks and months of that it was years of that. Because very action there's an equal opposite. Action. And we had a lot of setbacks with constitutional amendments and other states people pointing the fingers a lot of experts a lot of pundits a lot of members of the community leaders saying, you know, this is an abomination who is person think he is. And and so there was a lot. I mean, it was not an easy few years. Get that gets you the guts to to try the things that we're kind of maybe seat as a little bit out there or not did that. Well, you know, we were honestly. And I know, you know, people may say this is gross exaggeration. It's not we were worried about recall efforts. I was worried about. Legal ramifications. We actually reached out to two private attorneys and not just our city attorney. He was an elected official himself. He had his own politics to address. So I needed my own counsel. I remember watching sorts Nager on meet the press and talking about those riots and chaos and lawlessness and people are out there saying, I should be arrested. And there was it was early conversations about a recall lot of my base, quote, unquote, west side base, my Catholic base. My father's world, Irish Catholic families. They had a very difficult time with it while known priests. The biggest mistake he ever made was quietly courage. Congress does support me which by the way should have been doing. But the first place. So all of that was tough. And it was that was that was truly the based which I came out the west side of San Francisco think is a lot of theology. Oh at San Francisco a hold on. Yeah. San Francisco wasn't ready for that. We weren't ready for sieve civil unions. We had just dust was just selling domestic partnerships with salve Asian army in the United Airlines all the consternation that was trying to be resolved with Leslie cats and Susan Lee Allen, I'm Yanna and governor Brown at the time that we're trying to work our way through domestic partnership challenges. So it was it was interesting time. But it hardens you after you get through that after survive that then you get you get a little more Dacians. I think you get a little bit more. I think he boulder I think you get a little more congruent more clarity more conviction. You you tend to if you with this you I tend to identify with zeal, and passion and conviction not just tacit engagement in that sort of drove that it's still does to this day that issue what? Issue that came up right now, we're in the midst of hotel strike in San just noticed. I didn't notice that. So I drove yes. And another first year thing for you was there was a hotel strike there. The hoteliers for their fear campaign supported you. But you went and walked the picket line there did that was that like a spur of the moment thing or what? No, how did that shake? It was if it was frustrated look the hoteliers enormous amount for me, independent expenditures and others back before says and United anyone who believes citizen. United is created problem with money politics should pause consider the fact that money politics was big probably before since United. But that said they were proponents of my candidacy in the union at self led by Mike Casey was even the opposed. I say they were Gresley opposed to see Mexicans out for mayor and disappointed deeded yet a very short period of time after I got elected. There was dispute and there was a converse. Sation I had with some of the hotel yours. Couple edit flown in from out of state one from out of the country out of the UK made some flippant comment to me that this is an essence of PL just a unit in their vast portfolio. And I remember that sort of stinging comment, and it sat with me, and I couldn't get over it. Because for me wasn't about a unit about my city was our reputation. It was about our values. It was about the people that work there, not just Bizet. They're certainly not just the investors, and that was literally the trigger where I sort of shifted my engagement with some of the key leaders, the hotel council, and some of the key managers HR directors that had assembled in the city and saying, you know, what I get why you locked out your employees for couple of weeks because they had gone out on strike for couple of weeks, tit for tat I understand that. But you're now having a conversation with me give. Jimmy heads up that you want to continue the lockout. And I said we're getting close to holidays. You don't need to do that you made your point. This is not about my Casey, it's about the workers. And it's about there being used in this debate in a way that can really hurt their lives and their families lies. They said, no, we're going forward. I said, please don't do that. They said we're gonna do that. I said don't do that. And they did. And I said fine. You leave me no choice. I'm with the workers. And I walked picket line with the workers. And I pushed back, and it's a point of emphasis, I want to reinforce this. You can't buy me. No matter if you think you can buy me, I promise you given the opportunity I will prove to you. You're rock I grateful for support. But it doesn't change my point of view changed my point of view, facts and conditions. And there's a default. My default is at the end of the day, social Justice, economic Justice. And that's why I was proud to. Walk the picket line. And I thought it was a right. Then you do even though mayors aren't supposed to do that, and you necessarily tipping your hat, and it goes it didn't make it easier to come to an agreement, but I felt compelled and that's one of the concerns. Now, I think with you with the summoned Sacramento would be you got the nurses with the the labor federation. How are you going to push back? You know, same. Point. If you think you've got me look at my record. I'm gonna call balls and strikes as my point if someone comes in and just 'cause they write a big check thinking all of a sudden, I'm gonna agree with everything they tell me agree with it. Just simply wrong in that scant evidence to bait base that assertion, and I think that hotel examples e substantive proof point because again, let's remind wasn't just the mayor's race that hotels were supporting they support him. I initiative care not cash as many other initiatives, and my previous campaign supervisor I did enjoy turning my back, but I had to because they turned their back on the workers, and you can't hurt poor folks that are struggling to make ends meet disproportionate women in minorities and think that somehow just because he supported me, then I'm gonna roll over and being complicit in the pain caused on folks that I think really matter and I have an obligation to care about. What are the wraps on? You when you're a mayor was that, you know, the policy veteran anybody, but the schmooze e part of politics, you can you can certainly give a great speech in front of connect with with voters. But the schmooze e kind of working the political game talking to your fellow supervisors or the supervisors that was a weak point. You're criticized for. Do you think that's changed? And what are you? What have you done to try and prepare yourself instead of dealing with, you know, summary, the supervisor's nine eleven whatever it is these days. Hundred twenty legislatures legislators in Sacramento, what have you been doing to to to prepare to deal with pick up the phone? A very close relationships with the legislature have developed over not just seven years probably twenty years Toni Atkins being approved point I knew and choose city council in San Diego. She's now the head of the Senate we worked on homeless policy, many, many moons ago, many of the San Francisco elected so now and keep editions of influence, close friends built-in pointed to a portent bodies are Sesa recorder in San Francisco, and I've got very close with other elected, not least of which are Senator suddenly member who are very close Scott wiener of worked with on. So many issues backed his days when he was on the democratic central committee before us, even a supervisor excetera. So my only point of emphasis here is strong relationships. And yeah. A little bit of of of experience with the board. But I wanna mind you something you don't need to be reminded of. But it's an important point. You had the master of all elected officials guy reinvented the artists schmoozing one of the greats that happens to still be in our midst Willie Brown came from the assembly his capacity to do the impossible that deter limits in the state of California. He came to the city with those same supervisors that I had to work with and they almost recall Willie brought he called one of them drunken little door f-. Another one of them almost got a fistfight with them and his office. And then starting point people when he was out of town. He had a difficult time. You you had a mayor leave the God rest is Saul internalized that strive so much. He's literally not here today in some respects. I think I did fight. Well, with some of these folks are they're difficult bunch. And I don't think it gets more difficult than some of these that have been around San Francisco politics. So I feel more than prepared. And frankly, wildly lose the ask about the breath of fresh air that are some of these enlightened leaders in Sacramento. Wow. Okay. We're going to Clinton frame out when okay the Republicans you've not had to deal with a lot of Republicans. You know, certainly in San Francisco, but who the Republican first thing I did when I became Lieutenant governor's went out on a bipartisan trip with I think thirteen fourteen Republicans to Democrats to Texas or your Trump. Yeah. It which is a proponent of my willingness to reach out across the divide see solutions ideas, and wherever I can find them. I'm not ideological from that prison. My want good ideas wherever they could be sourced and married in a big Republican family. I. I was accused by those same members of the board. That thought Willie Brown was a right wing conservative who needed to be recalled of being quote, unquote, compassionate, conservative for most of my term as mayor which is the great irony of the state white race known believe that certainly my opponent would never believe that in the race for governor. So, you know, I look I I. I'm interested in the individual. I want people I want to I'm along with people of character and integrity, intellectually curious. You don't have to be intellectually superior if being curious and wherever those folks lie, whatever their party identification is those the folks that I tend to be attracted to and we'll spend a lot of time with regardless of party. And we're about the same age. I think birthday coming up next week fifty one we go through life, we have regrets professionally and personally when you look back in San Francisco, what are what do you regret professionally personally with you learn from in broad strokes that connects the previous about relationships with with members of the San Francisco board of supervisors there is some truth in look, I'm not I'm not belittling those relationships. But I was I was promoting some real change on homeless policy on on our drug and alcohol treatment strategies. On housing policy, hope and other things don't just healthcare policy. But I do agree if there's one lesson. It's the old adage that great old African proverb says you wanna go fast, go alone. You want to go far go together. There is truth that I definitely learned that lesson that I if I could go back on so many this. We just made it more difficult for ourselves by not establishing an engagement that was more thorough and more nuanced to get support internally. And so that example, LeBron's fishers together, we tend to go I'm not sure we would have ended up on the same side. We just made it more challenging so I ended up having to do ballot initiative probably seven or eight ballot initiatives that I did that were unnecessary. If we just got the support of members the board. I'm not sure we could have. I'm just saying, you know in hindsight community just. Centers sample that which by the way, something the city should be supportive of an enthusiastic by the way at four five of them to deal with the quality of life issues out on the street. That was an issue that stubbornly whatever reason Khanna politics on Harrison were promoted, and yet we didn't get a lot of by the board. There's no reason hindsight we shouldn't have magin that was about stubborn personalities. It was about all of us already having well established in our camps. You know, we had trouble with getting free internet San Francisco. I mean that was one supervisor who in the meeting there's minutes of the meeting from the company involved said I don't care if it's a good idea or not I will never let that mayor get credit for now. I soon have allowed that to happen. Maybe that's on me. Maybe that supervise. I don't know. He's the same supervisor voted against the hope six program, but those kind of things I think maybe by another go at it and other angle that that's just that's just an abandonment of any principle. It's pure politics. But you know, politics is two way street and takes account for that. So it's kind of things I regret substantively go deep to policy over the years. I just went back to your point. I mean, just maybe more time or rationally I think the key is give people credit, even if they don't even involved in something. That was your great idea. Thank you. And all of a sudden, I've noticed, you know, even if you just make it up Willie was great at that. It used to give people credit for things like really didn't. Even know. I thought about that. And he's a master politician still in work many cases. But there's you know, there's what is the old saw which elected officials Senate and some fancy one. Yeah. Said there's no limit on what you're capable of doing when you don't care about who gets credit and there's truth to that. And when you're young you're running so fast. You don't think in those terms or I get the more those things really don't matter to me as much at all. And I feel more prepared now with those relationships different pace Sacramento profoundly different than just a few key supervisors it in democratic Republican. Aspects to me is in livening. Interestingly actually, like a diversity of opinion. I think it's healthy. So I just think better prepared and all of those are lessons over the course last few decades. You're also unlike would be if elected any other governor in that you're very close the people in the tech community. How do they influence? What what do you get from that entrepreneurial spirit and adapt city, they think exponentially, not literate in linear terms. They think in terms of changing lives of billions of people not millions or even hundreds of thousands. I love that. There's a disruptive quality some of these folks. And there's a beginner's mind. They don't know what they don't know. So that we they're willing to do things that most of us wouldn't do because they're not burdened by other people's preconceived notions or assessment of situations. And so, you know, off to climb the mountain to see on the other side, they tend to see through it and that enlivened me, but at the same time, they're also very dubious about government. They're also very dubious about organized labor. They think this is, you know, the the most codified calcified the industries and institutions around. How do you reconcile those those students in your life? So I'm generally, you know, very close with Mark betting. Godfather, my daughter Mark doesn't feel that way. And he's one of the most lightened yet tech leaders out there. So I think there's we tend to categorize people to broadly, Franco, vast majority. My no. Personally, very close don't necessarily feel that way. But they may be represented by by that point of view in terms of their broader advocacy as as an industry writ large, not as individuals. But that said, yeah, people these are these are folks that don't believe incumbent capitalism. They believe in innovation capitalism. And so that comes not expensive, quote, unquote, labor, but incumbents more broadly, and and old rules and regulations that they get in the way of innovation in that spirit. And I think that's the real frictions where you stand on that are you for depreciation schedules or you for our deducts credits. I mean that the answer that is manifested, and where your biases in terms of your your framework, are you sort of the chamber protecting what the trophies on the wall or you for you know, the little guy trying to punch above their weight and breakthrough with an. App to completely change an industry and make it more customer Centric. And you said the other day that perhaps the cure to the DMV is is from the tech the tech amended quest where could you working playing? I mean, just imagine, you know, we can go on a journey together by finding some of the best and the brightest leaders in the retail space that are thinking about the future of retail. I mean thinking about some of the folks at apple that are in the future that they're in that space twenty four seven helping us design twenty century experience that is increasingly digitized. It's not required to go into box. And wait in line. Imagine, you know, customer service organizations like Zappa, I'm being I pathetically urine the spirit question that are consumed by a customer service interface reimagining that interface at the department of motor vehicle tech savvy DAV leader that leans in and truly looks at every funk. And says why isn't this bunk shit yet? Digitize that is in live to me. We're still in the twentieth century model. It makes no sense. And by the way will only get worse as we tried to enroll more these folks in the Riady program in the next year. So some big has to happen. I'm committed to try to is there anyone in particular. You've talked to and said could you actually convince from the tech world hate come on those warmth figurative examples, those quite literal? Our real people come to me with folks they've identified saying, you need to talk to this person who lives in this space and should advise you at least on Reconceptualise ING. Yeah. The retail experience that is the most. Willie symbolic and substantive interface between taxpayers and government, and that's the DMV. And that intrigues me. It's not the solution. But it allows I think us to incorporate different points of view that I think are more relevant to the world that we're living in look everybody's been conditioned by Hamdan. And yet we're still filling out forms in triplicate in some cases of the that's not gonna work for much longer. You have a very complex relationship with our current governor, Jerry Brown, childhood friend, family friend from your for life. Ran against them briefly for governor took them off a little bit in your first days of of ever melody. Yeah. Over that economic development PS visiting Texas with those Republican era. You his he said to you. Hey, I'm only a phone call away. And would you make that call consistent? I talked to ten days ago about commutations about bills he was thinking signing vetoing sat down with them, multiple -cations recently. So the answer's no that that's happening. That's not any question. Okay. So Italy happening now unbelievably responsive, and he's he's open to talking. Okay. Oh, yeah. You're more poorly. Not just him. His staff has been extraordinary across the board without exception. What did you learn from your time when you first approaching the job as governor, of course, famously said, well, maybe this should be shouldn't be elected position. Maybe she chicken package put I do believe it should be reformed. I haven't changed my position on that very strongly about that fight. What did you learn about Sacramento? Even though you're here in San Francisco out from your eight years. Different pace pace is so much slower. I came in with quixotic. Pace desire to attack a lots of issues in real time. That's the mayoral mindset twenty four seven it's a very seasonal up there. There's pace Evan flow sessions and cycles. And so it's just the pacing was to me the most difficult transition, and you know, you sort of you learned just expectations in that respect. But there's a cause and effect decision making in manifestation of those decisions in real time that that are very real visceral at the local level that do not exist as you move up into state office. And how would you how would you adjust to that? I mean, I have substantively economic plan was demonstrable example that I felt a great sense of urgency two thousand ten twenty seven billion dollar budget deficit twelve point four percent. Unemployment rate twenty seven twenty seven billion dollars for me. It was you know, that we just couldn't cut our way out of their tax away out of there. We needed a growth agenda. So I thought writes about best. Practices when I do my business. I'm gonna learn from our competitors. And so I wanted to see those ideas, and and be inspired by what was working what's not trying to cooperate north California vision, and for the governor that was you know, we'll get to that. But I'm triaging the state. We're in crisis are on ready was just lowered. We've got payroll considerations cash flow concerns in so different pacing different. Prioritization 's and in in different expectations. Terms of who are controlling those levers of power, why not get assure you who Donna governor is not well positioned to be in the driver's seat is released. Learn that barred by the next time. Ed Hernandez told us today that he is talk to you about wanting to change that relationship or you've talked to him. I love it. I think it's critical for the institution talked to Lenny, and as well, how would you want to change it? We should run into ticket. The officer stick it. I mean, it's the best practice across the country. It's not exclusively the only best practice. But I think it is the best practice, and I think that would allow the governor two point someone that can meet the moment, for example, for me, if I had my choice, I could have Lieutenant governor that had an expertise around the issues of of globalization and technology the future of work new work styles. New arrangements workforce development. It's sort of meet that moment someone was savvy in that space that can run some of those efforts that would be an ideal candidate as an exempt like Gavin Newsom. It's like a like a very me. But but somewhat or whatever, maybe maybe just someone who's an expert in the resource management, and I can meet this moment is relates to natural disasters in preparation or expert, and interoperable, whatever you could contextualized what you're trying to par ties as an administration extend that administrative framework and focus to your Lieutenant you said the other day when you're at the chronicle that you have thirty groups of people right now looking at all sorts of fact. Apology to be exact which he hates me mentioning because everybody calls and says, why am I not on that thirty? Yeah. Actually credit problems thirty one people I thought about three hundred people, but there's thirty one thirty groups thirty thirty groups on working on various issue and thirty one three hundred people three hundred and thirty people just working thirty one people just working on healthcare. We have that's one of the biggest groups right now, many former Obama people you to particular, what do you hope to get out of them? And why when expertise still liberal deliverable, I've got a couple of binders of of me weekly updates every Friday today. I'll receive my weekly updates from the policy groups on key issues related to those topics that are important to the group articles that they've clipped new data new facts new research best. Actes which is the source of most of their work. I wanna know what others are doing crown the world, not just cross country. And number two. I want the benefit of expertise. I, you know, having some of these folks that were involved in the design of the that's why I had a wonderful conversation as an example deep conversation, why didn't Obama pursue the public option? And what the limitations were not just the political invitations with the practical invitations, and then had a conversation is that a pursuit in California. Forget once position on single or not is that a legitimate alternative policy proposal. And so we run down that line of thinking others purely on what's working as an example, someone who was very involved in and Sesing for a think tank, the three different single payer models, the beverage model that the Bismarck model national health insurance model and what? Distinguishes the three for profit nonprofit multi pair in more traditional government sponsored healthcare each one of those variant on single payer in how can each one of those inform us in California based on our unique circles. So those are the kinds of things that sort of that kind of expertise that we're plugging in to our broader agenda, then just folks that are they're saying how you contextualize conversation around healthcare. What are the bills that were introduced that were not acted on? What were the bills that were rejected? What are the bills that we -ticipant introduced next year? How can we begin to prioritize those how do we focus on the administration of those priorities meaning best practices? Best people who's doing the who's excelling who's falling and all that forgive me for long winded have just basically expressing what the purpose of these groups. Right. So so what do they are? They going to say do you say okay by February? I I'd like to have what's your recommendation? What what is the poor? They're not transition, doc. Payments? I'm not getting ahead of myself. Right. Really is. Why do I get every Friday? I get updated its to really have going on. I mean, that's why I can go in an Ed board and talk to you about the the Bismarck model, which is Switzerland, not just terminate etc. And talk about what Taiwan did so didn't forms me. And makes me more granular a candidate, you lose, folks. I mean, I don't think it's necessary in these campaigns people tend to roll their eyes after your fifth or six point. But nonetheless, it matters to me because I feel I directly on you. Thank you. It's nice. But it's, but but I think it's important, and it allows me hit the ground running what I hope to do. If I do win is an trend in transition will expand those circles because trust me people are gonna man that and, but we're gonna have we're gonna have documents that are ready to be translated into more actionable agendas, and that is a huge vantage. I think for the next governor. And I imagine on hold that John Cox's doing the same thing. I don't know. The you said your first goal. Your priority goal is early childhood education and explain little bit of what that is. And how are you going to pay for it? So there's sustainable goals in situational goals. Many the the clearly the first priority for the next governors be prepared to submit a budget, which is going to be due in January and then make the very difficult decisions of Sesing talent and appointing key positions to these various agencies. Not just the horseshoe itself. The governor's office of then sort of stacking priorities in in situation those parties have to be housing homeless healthcare. So those are three top priorities housing. The housing crisis. The homeless crisis manifesting everywhere, and then the brewers healthcare, which again, our biggest driver our budget. But the sustainable issue that I wanna focus on party is the issues three. So I met allies situation. And sustainable priorities long-term, but priorities for long term investment. And then the short termism. That's required dressing the politics. Not just the policy around the immediacy of the crisis of the presents itself. The governor touted how much she has in the reserve as a major accomplishment, where are you on the priority of keeping we will have another recession? What is it were you on the priority property, the first thing, I would if I was architecture budget right now, I I do if there was surplus is statutorily set aside that ten percent of the general fund as the first act of any new budget period. So that's always exactly, but that was as mayor. I mean, most of the friction you refer to those supervisors was around that we did a rainy day reserve I was trying to pay down debt, and we did some pension. During the receptor sessions. I had to make tough choices we were producing by me. None of this was easy. And so I'm I've been changed. I believe in that fiscal discipline. I believe investing in the future. I wanna continue pay off our debt we paid off about thirty billion of our thirty five billion dollars of our wallet debt, not all five billion needs to be paid off immediately. But I wanna continue to knock that down. And I wanna continue statutorily get to that ten percent of our dental fund raiser, and you've also talked about restructuring the our taxes. This is more of a long gun. How what what is the in layman's terms is that mean are we taxing the wealthy more raising the corporate tax or some sort of the crease tax. What does that mean by some estimates? Eighty five percent of our economy is currently not taxed so what happens you have fifteen percent economy. That is is in some cases over taxed regressive sales tax the highest in the country earning portfolio. More than it is wealthier folks, you have income taxes for middle income earners that hit nine point three percent and earnings a little over fifty thousand dollars. I don't I think that is a burden on working, folks. So I'd like to see if we can brought in that tax pace begin to attach a more rational dressing issue volatility, which is the burden of having a tax base that is not broad and look at what other states have done, which is exactly what our policy groups are doing many other states at boot in this direction abroad in their tax base to the issue of Allah Tilleke, and I want to do this from this prison. Some experience. They worst thing it candidate for governor can do say here the three taxes I wanna raise your three tax wanna lower. Here's the folks that are full of it. And they're not even invited round the table. Get picked pissed off before I wanted to be angry after the products that if everyone is angry quite literally that means everybody five percent, everyone adding give something in adds something. And basically, you know, everybody's got to be willing to have a conversation aknowledge what currently exists persist is not going to work and puts us in a competitive advantage. That's majority of people I think are prepared for that engagement because I haven't met anyone that is not having that conversation privately. Everyone acknowledges our taxes to needs to be overhauled. It's just everyone has a different perspective. What that means? It's a prop thirteen conversation for some folks. It's an oil severance tax for other folks. It's a service tax for other folks, still it is getting rid of the income tax as we know it making a simple. Flat. Everyone has different pain in my job is to try to incorporate as many ideas together, but I wanna market in this context. The question we need to ask around the table an answer as what world are we living in what are the trend lines defined this world in how tax code allow California to be competitive in that environment. Everything's on the table. I would imagine has to be the best approach to getting. That's why we did healthcare in San Francisco. Everybody had to come around the table and no preconceived notions. One last question. I I don't understand your campaign motto. Them courage, her courage. What's a change? I don't know. It seems like is it I'm not arguing for the status quo seems like courage. Is it depends where you put the pause courage for a change or courage for a change. I mean, it seems like dissing you could be dissing someone out like your fellow your predecessors. I was running. I'm running against twenty seven people. And it was appointed contrast in I can assure you it is a point of contrast with my opponent today. I'm not running against governor Brown. I'm not running. Against anyone except the my Ponant in the status quo in this. I am not satisfied with the affordability in the state. I'm not satisfied. What's happened in the middle class not satisfied with happening homeless? I'm not satisfied. What we're doing early childcare? I'm not satisfied that we have an economic competitive. Economic development planner competitive framework to dress the issues of nature of the nature change of our economy. I'm not satisfied what having higher education. So it does require courage for change. But that's not an indictment of current leadership. It's an indictment on the current state of so many stubborn issues that do require a courageous approach to problem solving healthcare being obvious point that. Yeah. What you thirty six days and tear first Merrill tour term. There is a huge. Dacia as you would say move with. Same sex marriage. Should we expect a similar one? Sure. Like February surprise well. But I don't have. But I don't you anyone. That's. Third. The pressure's mounting for no expectations being set. Nothing plan. Yeah. No. I have to under promise and over got scripting at your first ten plan know, not Phil Walsh, Willie Brown said. He was the Bill Walsh of of course. There's only one Bill Walsh one mayor Brown. No. We're not doing that. We're but I am. I am forgive keep referring in the context. I always use the word architect, we are architect. Prioritization of what we want accomplish some of that is constrained by the the sort of lazy punditry of the hundred days, but I resembled over. I always we always because we all are we all are in that prison recognize it, but but but I going to be limited. But that's because I think frankly, short termism has been the enemy of so many of the solutions to the problems that. The state faces and we need to have a saving best motto. And that may actually be the biggest change the first hundred days, perhaps or disrupting this notion of short termism. All right. Thank you so much for all, right? I'd like to thank you all for listening today. You can Email me at J air Foley at chronicle dot com. You can hit me on Twitter at at job air Foley. And I'd like to thank governor governor Newsome for being on the podcast today. This was recorded by the way, at his campaign headquarters office in very nondescript building in San Francisco, I'd like to thank Fernando de as the San Francisco Chronicle's managing editor for digital producing today's podcast and remember governor some once infamously fit or not.

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Episode 119  Conversion Killers for Photography Sites with Jan Koch

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Episode 119 Conversion Killers for Photography Sites with Jan Koch

"Welcome to the wordpress photography. Podcast the podcast for photographers. Who want to learn how to get the most out of wordpress to grow their photography business. You don't need to be a geek to stand wordpress settled back and listen as we show you how. Now here's your host scott widen kipah wits. Welcome to episode one hundred and nineteen. My name is scott wine wits. And today i'm joined by my guest. Johncock host the wbz agency summit and consults businesses on hosting their own virtual events. His agency power community driven businesses that serve digital agencies to host virtual event so they can grow their loyal audience and establish thought leadership. When he's not working on the business he loves spending time with his wife and daughter were chasing his silver lab through his backyard. So welcome yon finally. We're connecting And i'm glad to have you in. This is going to be a really good a really good educational discussion for a lot of photographers around the world. 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There are so many helpful people that you can just approach on twitter or stack overflow or whatever in any facebook group that you might find your own wordpress people want to help you if you post is somewhat relevant enough on your homework before that so That's the best thing ever now with the virtual events that i'm hosting i'm seeing this to speak from all across the globe just willing to volunteer to speak and to help me get the word out of what i'm doing. I think that is the best thing about many other. Cms can out from for sure. Yeah the community is definitely one of the best aspects of wordpress. The is great. But you don't get the same experience community wise that you do with software In the websites based like yes sure. There's facebook for squarespace or or wicks one up but the interactions are not nearly as as depth as you get in the wordpress based plus these dedicated events. Both what used to be in person basically barely virtual these days I can't wait to get back to the in person stuff. how many can you have any work camps. have you been to. i'm just one. I have to admit workum europan twenty eighteen in berlin. Did you speak at it or you just an attendee. I just wasn't made some friends for the first time cool. Yeah at work at camp europe's that's one of the bigger of the two big ones where camp europe in your work camp Is it. i think it's called us. I think they changed computer as it is. Yeah location every year. Think right yet. Location. yeah So you own a press agency and you run an agency summit i can you. Can you explain what we're press. Agency is what. I ate agency in the in. The broadest terms is simply an agency that uses what press to deliver website for customers. So when you talk to those agency owners maybe even freelancers as user seldomly. Hear them say that they said what press but they say a website and they happen to use wordpress because represents the best tool for them and to be frank. That is the angle they should take. I think because Declines they serve or declines. Is they don't care whether it's West squarespace wakes whatever. They just want a website that that delivers the results. That looking for so usually that it's more brand exposure. It's more leads. More sailed stuff like that and whether that happens to be done with wordpress or any other to couldn't be of less important for them One thing that that just to my mind is I think the day before we are recording this automatic launch the done for you services where they build websites four thousand nine hundred. Us doesn't up. And i saw so many mixed feelings about those in the community but my initial thought was that most. What agency owns some freelance Should thank them for that because they know i think have set a baseline for what you should charge for website. I see many many people when it comes to running an agency running freelance business. They undercut themselves on prices. Way too much. I think when you go to fiber for example you get four hundred dollars or something like that. Essentially they just slept theme on the site and then If you can now get to the right clients and they ask you for quote and you open the discussion with well. The founders of what press charge five grand for the most basic website. I can do it for four and a half so that immediately doubled the prices of most agencies. I would assume at least smaller ones. Yeah that's a. It's it's been interesting watching the discussion on on the more on the on the agency side in in o- on social media since that announcement came out You know it. I think it impacts everybody in the we're space but definitely of course agencies more Because now you're talking the the largest Wordpress development company in theory Is is now offering something that you offer or you know other people offer and it's just a you can you can take a multiple ways you can take it as as ooh that hurts or you can take it as a good. There's another company serving clients That maybe you know they'll try them and they won't like the experience will come to me and young coming over competition. Yeah i think it all comes down to the loyal audience that you're building for agency and what i thought when i saw this is that they are just creating another revenue stream for potential. Ipo later this year so they're just trying to make the company more attractive and that is the job of every entrepreneur and every business owner. So i don't think you can blame them for them. Maybe they could have communicated a little bit better and made it more like obvious what they are doing right right right. Yeah i'll be sure to linked to that in the show notes. Nobody's interested in seeing What what what. A matic announced So everybody knows what agency is now gone. can you explain what. Wbz agency summit is. That is the one which i think all. Wbz agency owners need to attend that. Obviously i'm biased. Because it's my conference. But it's essentially an event hosted for professionals and business owners who happen to use wordpress to build websites and serve their clients. And i'm bringing together. Industry leading experts that either have grown raving the successful agencies For the summit. I had the founder of ten up. I had the founder of what they've studios and seminar people on there I bring in marketing. Experts like bridget will yard for twitter marketing. For example i bring in other ceos and founders of raving the successful companies in the space example the founder of wbz media the phone of delicious brains Another co founder of studios was on one of the panels. That i hosted. And it's a mix of prerecorded sessions live webinars. That go live during certain time. And it's essentially a conference taken online where you have a certain start date and end date and in that time you can see all the conference contents for free. The prerecorded contents there was a thirty. Six prerecorded sessions last year. And then i had. I think ten life events. So that's life webinars in panel discussions group discussions and those are all tailored to help the attendees grow their businesses from all sorts of angles. So i run a business. But i don't know everything when it comes to growing the business. That's why i tried to bring on experts or know a lot more than i do. As it's purely for selfish reasons i if i'm on this because i want to grow my business and then i just asked them some questions that i know from overseeing what con- what communications go on facebook groups for example on twitter. I see the quest the same questions. Come up over and over again and those happen to be the questions that i'm facing to when i'm growing my agency and those are the topics i want to talk about with the industry experts and then everything is available for free. Why the vendors live and after the event is what you can pay to get lifetime access to all the sessions awesome. Yeah no it's It's a very smart thing to create something that is educational for the masses. But it but selfishly is for yourself right. It's it's 'cause you're you're you're only benefiting everybody at that point but you have your goal in mind and in a way you have in your goals in mind helps others more because the content is being curated more than what you want and i also had another different as an interesting conversation with rent fish skin the corner from us on on the i w p summit i did in two thousand fifteen and we were talking about Me not being native english speaker. And i was telling him camera that it might be a disadvantage for me because there was Still is some form of imposter syndrome. Another are gonna talk. Because i am very mess things up and i do from time to time but nobody really cares. Luckily knee said not being a native english speaker as an advantage. Because it makes me listen more carefully and that is something that i just wanted to get out there for everybody who's listening who also struggles with impulsive syndrome from time to time. Whatever you think is a disadvantage tried to turn it into an advantage and for me listening more carefully because they have to process actively what the counterpart the interview speak into is saying makes me dig deeper into their questions. Sometimes that's great advice. I definitely suffer from imposter syndrome as well and That is definitely definitely great advice. And i completely agree with rand I think Not only do you listen more carefully. But i also think that in some ways that we're press i mean it's forty percent of the internet at two right And i might even argue that. Majority of that is not in the united states that A very very large portion is in europe and And and all over so people can identify more with people who are speaking english. But also obviously not i nate you know native speakers before so You know it's I think it is an advantage for you in some ways as well Okay let the. Let's dive into the topic for today. the topic is basically conversions for photography websites. The first thing we wanted to talk about was google analytics. This is something that hopefully by now every photographer is using google analytics for their websites There's if you're not. There's a lot of plug ins that can help. Set it up for you Monster and sites one and the one that i actually have been using his psychic which made by google now and That makes it really easy to only set up your analytics but connected all from your press back in basically But hopefully everybody is using google analytics. How can photographers Identify conversion killers on their websites. That's a really good point. And one thing i would like to pre face this conversation with instead if you have implemented google analytics awhile ago. Please go into your account and double check that it's updated version four because at some point version three. I think it came out like last year At some point version three eventually was stop sending you data and then you're left with nothing if you didn't update Conversion killers is one thing that i think everybody every website owners should be aware of at some point. And it all depends on your current situation. So i would start with defining the goals like what goal. Desio website wants to achieve if. You're a photographer chances. Are you want people to get onto your contact. Page to book shooting with you. You want people to get onto your pricing page. So that you know that what you're showing them on your website is enticing enough for them to consider to hiring you you want people to click on the call me button to book a call with your to schedule a call with you. All these inflammations as something that you have to define before we even started about talking conversion because if you don't know what the main goals on your website are what are you going to optimize for that. That is that's the first step i would take and then when it comes to looking into google analytics it easy is overwhelming but luckily i think you don't need to understand all that is going on there. You can easily spend two months in. Google ended it takes to muster. But i don't think you need it What i would start with you. Look into google analytics. I'm looking into my account right now You want to look at the overall development of your traffic like so traffic. Going up is traffic going down. That is i would say the first thing that you immediately should consider. google presents. That right on the dashboard. Then what i would do is i would look are brilliantly perfect then i would look into the Audiences and i would see where the people are coming from for photography sites. Obviously you want to have local traffic. You don't want to target people if you're located in new york. Don't want to target people in san francisco for example. It doesn't make sense. They won't drive over flyover to book shooting with in most cases a nessie like some form of sedan cvt photographer. He wanted to make sure that. When you are in the audience tap or in in google a four i think it's called acquisition in music. -sition you can see where the uses a common from and you can see in the audiences on a very beautiful map how your users a distributed in google analytics where they're coming from and that indicates where you should focus your efforts on creating new users is it like google listing for example. Is it getting more exposure in local magazines on your local newspapers like that. Is it getting more active and local facebook groups that you want to participate in drive traffic back to your website and When you are talking about all the traffic acquisition what you should keep in mind is that google can actually tell you the conversion rate in psychedelics. The true percentage rate if tracking his With in the in the us is way less strict then. It is in europe with gdp. Are that stuff What you can do in google analytics in google analytics. Four there is a section called all events where you have predefined events so that is Click is an event fire downloads. The first visit is an event page. Scroll and so on what you can do. Is you can target events based on the pages that you have on your websites so for example you can set up event for page view on your portfolio page so that you see how many people come onto your website. Actually see the pictures that you're gonna see the galleries. You can target an event for your pricing page for your contact page on. I highly recommend you do that. Because this gives you numbers to operate on gives you like a base nine and what is a little bit. Tricky is that when you create an event takes around twenty four hours in google to show so you have to be patient with that You cannot like google in this things. It's a little bit slow but what you can do. You can create these events and then give give it like a week or two to collect some data before you really decide anything and then it gives you a good idea of reaching goals that you want to say for example one to have five percent of all the traffic coming to your website landing on the contact page and sending you a message debts way you get that five percent from and if you see that you're at one percent rather than five you can look at way or website is leaking the traffic so that would be in the engagement step in oakland athletics. You can see the number of views certain pages on your website. Get you can see the time on page people spend on these individual pages you can see the bounce rate on these individual pages and if you just take like an hour or so to go through the list of those pages you will immediately see where people spend more time with We have people spend less time and where people actually leave your website without taking any action and that is the that that is one way to identify conversion cassettes. That's what i will do is focus on those pages that stick out the most and then work your way up from there and one thing pay for stub rambling here. One thing is just do one change at a time and then give a week or so at least before you measure the results because if you change five different things on five different places and you see the metrics improve or decrease you don't know which of these five changes cost the chain essentially so you just won't be testing one step at a time. So google analytics has A lot of areas where you can dive deep into your your audience and pages that are that are serving well and different events that are going on your site and all these different things and as you said you can spend two months to to dig into it and even then you only scratching the surface for you. How far down the rabbit hole you can go but goo goo lennox is free for everybody who wants to use it. I'm dr paid for. There's a paid version of it. But i don't think people do that. There is an alternative that is fairly new. Offer something really interesting. We've been using it on the image. The website and i've been using on my photography websites ends called. Microsoft clarity also free And i find it fascinating to To go through this now. I view services like it in the past Services like click tracking heat mapping and even a tracking which is basically just mouse movement. And i. it's they're fun To to to look into Into all the data and watch the videos that go on and and whatnot charge. Love and a lot of money and microsoft is making this free as of now. You never know what's going to happen in the future which shocked me the fact that they made this free So can you share a little bit from your side of clarity. How it compares to lyrics and some cool things you can find for conversion optimization stuff from there absolutely. I think you nailed it. I will shock to win. Microsoft announced it and i was really hesitant to put something for bikers soft on my website even though i am a pc user. I switched from make like three years ago. I was hesitant to to trust myself with this but on the with all that they are doing recently. They're going into the right direction in terms of the open source community What i really love about clarity is the heat map tracking the recording the sessions. I think it's not a full replacement for google analytics because analytics dive so much deeper into the traffic. Like the traffic sources demographics this split between devices that the geographical information that you can get it all so much deepa so much better in google analytics. But what you can see in clarity Dozens of you are those heat maps in those recordings and i've just To refresh my memory. Just before call went through the recordings from one of my online shops that sells a merchandiser online event. And it's so cool to see people actually on their phone browsing and just you see where people tap and stuff like that and that is Depending on how many Traffic you have. You can spend another two months in clarity watching although session recordings. But what would i would love what i would advise to do. Is i would combine the two things. So when you identify the pages that you think have us in google analytics or thanks for bringing this up. That's amazing you see The pages in google analytics that you want to look at and then in clarity you can go into the recording tab for example you can open that you are and then clarity shows you how people are actually using specific era which i think is really really helpful because it identifies if people are clicking on the right things for example if you have this very fancy design. Sometimes what happens is links aren't identifiable things easily or buttons earned identifiable as buttons and nobody clicks on them and instead they take on the slide show or something like that because they see something moving there and it's the same with the heat maps really. I prefer heat maps recordings because the heat maps show aggregated data whereas the recording is just one user per recording which i think is less statistically significant but both tools combined. Give you a lot of clarity on the sections where people get stuck where people don't understand something for example if you have these really fancy photos and people spend four minutes watching your photos on the website and then leave the page. That's a sign for you to interrupt them at some point. Maybe a pop up after two minutes if necessary or just reduce the gallery to normal size after two minutes because nobody's really looking for forty minutes onto photo and just admiring every detail because you're not uploading photos and four k. Ideally that will take us to two minutes to download a picture from the website. I love to share two things. That i think would be really cool. Ones really cool one. That was a good finding that that i discovered using clarity actually yesterday or two days ago. I discovered this. So what. what's going to be really cool. Is you were talking about how the video recordings are one at a time right which i still get pulled into that rabbit hole. I wind up watching any of them. Because you know it is what how people are interacting with your website but it would be cool it for microsoft to down the road whether it's a paid upgrade or still part of the free platform please make it part of the plea free platform that they use. Ai to basically take these recordings and see what everybody's doing and then put it together. Basically the ai saying look this is what people are doing. And this is how you can improve it or like. Here's our recommendation based on what people are doing on your site. 'cause they know you know. Hey i can can determine what's happening and can mix just. I mean look addicts. They have these new insights feature that. Give you these. Ai driven piece of advice on your analytics right so that would be cool if they if they find a way to use ai to to aggregate all these video clips into -able advice right now regarding the the the heat map with the click tracking on imagery website on our pricing page. We have been comparison table of all the plans do got the the at the top is the pricing comparison table with a little bit of info. And then you can. Scroll down to see more with the be. Comparison turns out that people were actually clicking are trying to click on the first column which is a name of a feature right. And i'm like oh wait. That's not a link but a lot of people are trying to click it now. No-one our projects is to go into that comparison table and make all those clinical obviously to new to from a conversion standpoint. You want those into a new tab. You don't want to pull people away from pricing. Pricing page may maybe just editor or something explaining the tool. Yeah yeah so There's something active work on now over. The next couple of months is how do i. How do we optimize so people are clicking for. No reason right. So what think makes makes them click on that element is is it. The design is at the position. What we think it could be that. It's just a little bit of text in a column. That looks like i mean. It's the colors. just black text. It could be that people are just trigger-happy on their with their mouth really. There's no way to know. But i mean there was a lot of people do it so i figured it's worth worth exploring to figure out how to make that. Easier for people are nicer for people who actually are trying to click this. That's actually a really good point that you're bringing up here is always come from the perspective of improving the user experience. I think that that is something. I should have highlighted. Earlier is when we are talking about this conversion rate optimization. The ankle for the website own obviously is to get more leads to sell more photos on nine to say magi or whatever but that's not what we can focus on doing conversion optimization. We need to make the experience for the website visit at the best that it can be served them and then by doing that. Guide them through the decision making process. Yeah so i do have An article with a video on the log on clarity and explained how you can actually connected to your website either doing it with their. You know their Javascript snippet they can put into Into or by installing the plugin. There's even a free microsoft clarity plugging at microsoft produced so there's multiple ways you can do If you want check that will link to that article in the show notes as well So you wanna talk more about goals How to how to maybe determine what goals and how you wanna track those or anything you want to dive into into the goals because when it comes to conversion as you said earlier if you don't have the goals then you're not tracking forty up. Yeah there is a saying that What's get what gets measured gets improved that the name was said that escape me right now but that's a mantra. I really live by and when it comes to goal setting. I've touched upon it in the beginning that you should identify what your website should do for you. So whether that is generating more calls inquiries via web form Booking calendar on there so people can book book meetings with you stuff like that once. You have that in place Reverse engineer how. You won't get there. So i would ignore clarity. If you're beginning in this process. I would ignore mix of clarity. I would still install it. But i would not vote worry about it too much because you just want to collect data and the beginning i would go into google analytics. Now would identify I've written on four key. Metrics that i think are really important. That is decreased bounce rate on your page. That is how quickly people are leaving page without doing anything without clicking on a link to a different page on your website for example and you can do that by Testing various things so it could be related to the traffic source. Just could be that you're randomly ranking for keyword that isn't relevant to the content on your blog. I've had that multiple times happen Could be that you are linked from some random page that drives traffic. That isn't relevant Could also be that your copy on the website or the the layout on the website isn't compelling enough to to make people want to click onto the call to action that you have and that is that Clarity comes in. After you've collected some data you can see where those elements are where people drop off. And don't scroll any for that. Don't click on the city as like that. Then i would focus on increasing the time on page that people spend on your page debt is always assigned for somebody is consuming what you have put onto the website so whether that is browsing through the image galleries that you have whether that is Going through the about page learning more about who. You are what. You're doing what your approach to photography is whether that is defining was setting in setting up a form that qualifies leads like Do you want a wedding shoot. You want family shoot to you. Wanna baby shoot. What timeframe do you want to do the shoot in how many people stuff like that. You can go crazy with these forms. You know that video content. Yeah content that's really Really big right now in the photography industry where Photographers are now starting to comfortable in front of the camera and adding a video on their about page instead of just being text and votto right so that you can. You can take that idea and bring into other pages talking about your pricing on the pricing page and talking about the booking process and the session process on the booking page. So yeah i love that that. That's a really good to increase the time on page and to be honest when i started doing more video i mean right now for those watching. I do have a pretty fancy setup now but that certainly wasn't the way i started. I just started with a simple logitech. Webcam in my my my room when i lived with my parents so it wasn't wasn't like that and it doesn't need to be and the the benefit you have been photographer. Is you have the nice ear. So circling lipid beg to impose syndrome. Don't let that hold you back from putting video. i think it just makes much more relatable. You're bring up a great point. Here's scott Then obviously coming back to the metrics we talked about the bounce rate and we talked about the time people spend on your page the third point i would say all the conversion metrics so when you set up your goals in google analytics i would look at those as the third thing because first of all you want to ensure that you have the right daytime auto to base decision on if you have fifty website visitors a week then. That's not valid data. It's not statistically significant to do any decision with fifty visits you want to have like one hundred conversions each before you can even start testing it. It hurts to hear this probably because depending on your traffic levels it takes a while to get there but you just have to be patient. I think to to go that route into to just Yeah wait for the data to pie up until you can make an informed decision on what you can actually change on your website. And then the fourth metrics i would say is improved the number of pages people open on a visit on your website so that is doing a better job in guiding people through the website and making them look at the areas of your website like the contact from the pricing page the about page guiding them through those pages and guiding them by that through the decision making process. You know there's a there's a photographer that that I've had on the on the show. I think twice or three times. Remember at this point but One thing that that he. Brian capper ritchie. has always pushed for with photographers. Is treating your websites. Photography website like a any other business funnel so when somebody comes to his website for a wedding. He directs them to a wedding funnel. And then there's like there's a page where there's the gallery There's another paid down the funnel where which is another page which is information about his work. You know how he handles weddings. And there's another one where it's Testimonials about weddings. And then another one. Where the bookings. So it's like a legit funnel with beautiful called actions button that get you to the next page So it would be good for a lot of talk treating their websites as a funnel basically handle all all these these key point that you just brought up in one shot if you treat you website like a funnel. You're doing that all really would i. One hundred degree with that. Like for every type of service that you offer. You should have separate fun. I one hundred percent agree with it. But it's it's a lot of work to set this up. Oh yeah yeah. And that's where like you know. What if you're just getting started. Just get a website up you know. Pick up the imagery theme star with the preset. Get the website up right done. Wants your business growing. You can then start worrying about you know okay. Do i now design this myself. Do i now optimizes myself or to hire somebody like yawn. This for me right so How do you know if you don't have the budget brand new start with the the the least amount of effort to get your gut your site up your site. Is your business card. You need a site no matter what you worry about the rest later. Let let let let microsoft clarity gather all that data for for two years until you start seeing a revenue up and you need to expand or grow or do whatever it is for your website. You need to do you know. That's a one hundred ninety. So is there anything else. You'd like to share Any final tips or advice you want to share with the listeners and viewers before we wrap this up. I think we've covered a lot of ground in conversational ready. So what i would like to emphasize on is always put your visitor. I whenever you do in these optimization things always put yourself in the shoes of your visitors thing about what they want to achieve on the website. What what questions they have. What needs they want to get served by coming to your website whether that is just browsing around for photographers in your area. That is actually booking you. Because they're already familiar with you count from that perspective and then don't rush things give yourself time to properly execute the tests. Don't over think. All those tests. I see many people who unfortunately let themselves hold bag by all the options that you have in the space. You can tweak so many things on website whether it's button color whether that worrying of headline whether that's placing an image left or right don't over think it s you said it's get started and then it rate one step at a time. That is i think the most important takeaway for sure great advice Thank you for joining me today. can you please tell the listeners. The absolute best place to find more information about you. The best place for now is wbz agency summit dot com but this will not be so relevant for people in the space. If it s for photographers. I do have a facebook group that i would like to plug that it's called w. p. mastery and this is for people who use wordpress so if you are what as us if you want to learn more about how to make the most out of your what website check out the wb must reface book group. We are roughly one thousand five hundred people and they're all very helpful. Were coming community awesome. 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New Jersey Man First to Get a Successful Face and Double Hand Transplant Healing Well

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New Jersey Man First to Get a Successful Face and Double Hand Transplant Healing Well

"It's thursday february fourth. I'm oscar ramirez in los angeles and this is the daily dive asked. Incredible medical story of twenty two year old. Joseph was the first person to receive a success base and double hand transplant after a car. Crash left joseph with eighty percent of his body burned and twenty surgeries later. His doctors thought he would be a good candidate for the transplants is now six months out from his surgery and healing and progressing very well in child. Health reporter at usa today joins us for how it all happened next amazon. Founder and ceo. Jeff bezos stepping down from his post. It will not be leaving the company however instead he will serve as executive chairman where he'll continue to work on innovations for amazon and big decisions about the future of the company. Patrick thomas reporter. The wall street journal joins us for what this change in position. Means for basis and amazon finally california governor gavin newsom continues to take political blows as a recall effort against him takes in more signatures and republican. Opponents are emerging to run for governor. Should the recall qualify to be on the valley former san diego mayor. Kevin falkiner has thrown his hat in the ring. And so has businessman. Johncock sima met Political reporter at the la times joins spur who is stepping up as the recall. Effort dean steve. It's news without the north. Let's dive in addition patients and say trumped everything. You can't really get joining us now. Is karen weintraub health reporter at usa. Today thanks for joining us. Karen thanks for having me. We have an incredible story. A guy by the name of joseph demio. He's twenty two years old in two thousand eighteen. He was in a fiery car. Crash left him with over eighty percent of his body burned. And what happened now is he. Is the first person to receive a successful face and double hand transplant carrying. It's an incredible story. Tell us how this all played out. You received twenty different surgeries and his plastic surgeon said look i've done everything i can do and introduced him to a surgeon at nyu langbo. Who had done a number of face. Transplants that gentleman saw. Dr edward override. Rigas joe demio and said i can help you but i think you should have hands as well and it was about a year long process a little less than a year of testing joe to make sure that is is despite the burns on his face. He couldn't move his eyelids but his is themselves. Were fine his teeth refined so underneath this burned facade he actually was in pretty good shape so that made him a good candidate. He was young he was also incredibly determined. He wanted to get his life back in his independence back so he was a great candidate for this procedure and miraculously. They found a donor who work for him because he'd had blood transfusions. After the accident he had a lot of antibodies in his bloodstream. And so ninety. Four percent of people in the world. His body would have rejected a transplant from them so they needed one of these six percent people and they found him about ten months after they started looking. Obviously the tragic side of transplant is one person gets to live but somebody has passed in order to make the donation so incredibly generous donation from the family to give the face and lower arms from before. I'm down to this young man there six months out from the surgery now and the team is trying to declare a success with it. Obviously he's way ahead of schedule. As you mentioned the swelling in the face will go down over time. But you know he's already regained some sensation in the hands. He's been able to use them. You know brushes hair and all that stuff and do even some light. Exercise lifting weights doing push ups from like a bench stuff. I mean. that's a lot within six months. And as you mentioned the donor gave everything you know from the top of the head down to the neck over to the ears and the arms at the forearms and that's a lot and a lot of stuff to connect to reconnect. You mentioned that the team the operation team spent over a year rack all of this. They went through great pains to be able to do this right. And it was an eighty person team involved. So it's a huge number of people and probably another fifty or sixty with involved in his rehabilitation so this is not a simple procedure at all but obviously dramatic for this young man. It's given him a life back and yes he's got two goals left us achieved. Everything said he can shower by himself. Spaghetti is his favorite food but he was having trouble. Picking up. couldn't pick up a piece of pizza or a hamburger with his burned hands. She didn't have enough opposable thumb and forefinger enough grip to do that and now he can eat by himself that way he can play cool. He's very into physical fitness and he is lifting weights even on days. He doesn't do physical therapy. He that at home he tries to fit but he likes food too much so he's not been as he would like to but it's really an incredible story. The other piece. That i found really striking about this story is that in order to help the donor family. Which obviously was making this this incredible donation and to help them feel less of a sense of loss actually during the surgery and aspect of nyu printed out three d. printed the man's face and arms and they put it back on the court he would look normal to the grieving family and i just found that at astounding aspect and obviously important to the family. And we don't know much about the donor other than he died of a stroke. I know the family wants to remain anonymous for now. And joseph did send them a letter thanking them for all of it and everything. What are the other interesting things. That i thought was kind of the psychological effects of this whole thing. That's why the doctor said they wanted to give the face transplant too. Because a lot of times victims can't recognize themselves if they've been disfigured or something but they can recognize themselves a lot quicker you know if they do the face transplant and things like that. So that was the psychological effects of this was also very interesting. Yeah i found that fascinating as well even in in an mri and a brain scan. You know when you look at a picture of yourself if you're severely burned you don't see that as you but when you see any other face. He was able to very quickly adapt to having this this new face and seeing it as himself and seeing his hands as his own hands as opposed to something outside of himself. While i like. I said just an incredible story. Wish him the best of luck and continue fueling and and just getting back to normal as best as he. i know he's got as you mentioned. He's very driven. He's got a lot of goals still that he wants to achieve so good luck to him carrying weintraub health reporter at usa. Today thank you very much for joining us. Thank you as the demand for telemedicine grows. So does the need for connectivity. Five g. meets that need qualcomm remains focused on giving doctors and patients superior security rich five g. Connectivity learn more at qualcomm dot com slash invention age. Never thought you'd make a great switchboard operator or seltzer man or professional royal mistress full-time jobs your jam with a podcast. Just for you. I'm helen hong and i met beat and we host. The new podcast job sleet taking a look at jobs that used to be a thing and now not so much. Iheartradio is number one for podcast. Don't take our word for it. Find jobs elite on the iheartradio app. Or wherever you get your podcasts. Supposed to allow him to train. The next ceo was well. He'll have some influence in terms of strategy and easing his successor into the role as executive chairman. Joining us. now is patrick. Thomas reporter at the wall street journal. Thanks for joining us. Patrick thanks for having me on. Tuesday we got word. That jeff bezos. The founder and ceo of amazon is stepping down. He's going to be carrying on as executive chairman now. This is kind of a little practice. That's been popular in some big companies as of late. But what does this mean for amazon. What is he going to do now. That he's stepping down as ceo my understanding. Is he still going to be highly involved in the company. Just tweaking things a little bit. He is stepping into an increasingly popular role in the effective chairman. We've seen quite a few longtime. Ceo's such as bob iger from disney last year made a similar move into the executive chairman from his ceo role and in the case of basil's as a founder. He said he still going to be around. You plans to put more time and discipline those other passion projects such as blue origin. The washington post some of his other initiatives but he is still very much around some of the experts management. We talked to study the executive chairman role. Say that in a lot of respects. Nothing has really changed here. When you're the founder you still have such a strong influence over the company and this is going to allow him to of train. The next ceo as well he'll have some influence in terms of strategy and easing his successor into the role as executive chairman. He still around. He's still very much influences. Able to kind of guide the company but people aren't won't be reporting to him in the same way as as if he were ceo but he is still very much around looking over the company. Andy jesse he's going to be the one stepping in necks he was running amazon's cloud computing business Amazon web services which is just huge and is becoming a bigger part of a lot of different companies tech companies. Parts of their business that they're working on so he's going to be stepping up in there but let's get back into a little bit more about kind of the difference between ceo and executive chairman. They say basil's is still going to be involved in a lot of what they call one way door issue so these are just huge decisions in the direction of the company and that is one of the benefits of like the executive chairman. Is they get to still be involved in strategy and a little bit of operations and in this case as the company said yesterday evening's call that he is going to be involved in some of these big decisions such as acquisitions or getting into the grocery business so he is still very much. Want to be part of that and especially with the key difference between an executive chairman or even the chairman role. The independent chairman of the board is that this is someone in the buildings. Still this is someone who is going to be engaged day-to-day operations of the business. And you hear chairman roles. Those are very common. But that's still someone who might show up at board meetings. They're not in the company headquarters in the building. The executive chairman roles very much in the building and overseeing some of the day to day operations. The key difference again from ceo is the vice president's the other executives they don't report directly to the executive chairman and ceo but in many respects the executive chairman would still have say in strategy and of course have the ear of the ceo. One danger note is some of the experts we talked to said this can go bad if the founder or long-term ceo stepped into the executive role hangs around. Too much is too much of an influence. Does quite wanna let go. That's kinda when things can go a little wrong. It's striking that balance of being too over the shoulder. Ceo verses only showing up to a couple of board meetings a year. it's finding that balance as you mentioned before. He's the founder so he's has everybody's ear still so that is going to be an important and we'll see how they if they can reach that in a letter to employees. Jeff bezos did say. I've never had more energy this about retiring. And we know about. Jeff bezos style. When it comes to running the company he always says he wants to emphasize being relentlessly innovative. And this kind of role seems like perfect for that where he can maybe take off a little bit of the day to day business and and as we mentioned make those big one way door issues just seeing where the next step of amazon will go because it's such a huge company. Now we rely on it for so many things retail as we mentioned the cloud computing stuff is bigger now. Jeff bezos is going to be able to take this opportunity to take the company in big ways. I feel like a lot of people. Don't know they very much. Innovator enough they were. He's been involved in scores of the company's patents and amazon and it's affiliates and blue origin the space company over the past. Twenty years he's very much involved in a lot of the company's innovation interesting to see how they strike that balance. What's really next for amazon. Jeff as is going to remain a fixture there. The news came down stepping down and ceo. At i think it was like. Oh my god. What's going on now. But he's still very much going to remain within the structure there so we'll see how it all plays out patrick thomas reporter at the wall street journal. Thank you very much for joining us. A traffic act. What's supposed to proceed flattening of the curve. everything it should be up as up. Everything be down is down. Case rates positivity rates hospitalizations. I see us testing starting to go back up while vaccination rates in the state. But we're not out of the woods with seema meta political reporter at the la times. Thanks for joining sima. Wanted to talk a little bit about california politics. We've been hearing about this recall. Effort against governor gavin newsom. They are still collecting signatures. Last time i saw they had about one point three million signatures. I think they need one point. Five by mid. So they're on their way. We'll see if they make it there but what we're seeing is a bunch of people. Republicans already coming out saying they want to run for governor if the recall qualifies some familiar. Names we have a san diego mayor there. We have john cox who just ran against gavin newsom and loss. Tell us what we're seeing going on right now mostly went together have been gathering signatures for quite some time now and they do need one point five verified signatures by mid-march. They say that collected one point three. But i'm in terms of what we actually know through the secretary of state's office only about four hundred and some thousand have been verified so while they're sitting on a palestine. There's sort of this painstaking process to make sure registered voters. The forms have been filled out correctly. We really we can't say they have one point three and they don't know how many of those are valid typically typically have a big chunk gets thrown out because they're signed or their or their invalid for other reasons so we actually don't know exactly where they are but they are feeling the momentum behind their back. They're raising money they raised. You know we have close to two million dollars if not more And they they. They really momentum on the streets. I'm over governor. Newsom his handling of the coronavirus pandemic the closer economic closures Just sort of how the economy's going here and be all the uncertainty we've seen over the past year And so the question is now. We're starting to see. Some candidates emerged from the work of who will challenge him. If the recall does qualify for the ballot. You mentioned come faulkner. He's the former mayor of san diego and he was twice elected In a city that has more democratic voters than republican voters. He has certain ability to cross the aisle. He worked with the democratic city council. He put successful introducing homelessness there for a couple years of his tenure tenure. We saw johncock to. He's a businessman. He did run for governor. In two thousand eighteen against kevin newsome. He spent close to six million dollars with money on that race. But he's still lost pretty handily but twenty seven or thirty. Point any republican. Who runs is going to have a challenge in the state given how democratic leaning the is you know the the voters here have not elected republican statewide since two thousand six That's it you know. There's some new polling out. Just some does have some vulnerabilities. There's a new poll out by uc berkeley institute of governmental studies. They basically say more than a third of the state's registered voters say they would vote to recall. Governor gavin newsom forty-five percent though say they would oppose a move. And this kind of illustrates. How difficult it's going to be even if it qualifies the on the ballot. It's still going to be a tough go to actually recall him. And and that's why it's so important that some of these other people that hope to get him out of there and be installed as governor kind of start running now they have to start getting their name recognition out there again. It's a tough go to be able to do it. You mentioned in your article. People were gonna be asked two questions. Do you want to recall governor gavin newsom and who should be put in place so these people need to make the names no now true and then the other question is the last time we had a recall. Governor in the state with two thousand three hundred and thirty candidates ended up renting movie star. Arnold schwarzenegger ran and know. I mean he pretty much out of the water because he had so much name id. He was such a well-known celebrity. He was so famous right. Now there's no arnold schwarzenegger that we know of waiting in the wings. So i'm super people like have faulkner on johncock to set is absolutely right. And they have to get their their faces out in front of the california voters to instead of they know who they are they know their policies. Nothing really difficult state in a state as large as this where the only way to really effectively do that on television. The television is really sensitive. We have some of the most expensive media markets in the country running against governor gavin newsom these republican challengers obviously under hit him on the economy and the way things are going in california but really the main thing is the pandemic the response to the pandemic. And we've seen a lot of stumbles out of gavin newsom administration on this front. We know the big fumble when he went to dinner at the french laundry. We've seen the vaccine rollout stumble here and there and this is also kind of what fueled the recall. Effort gave it a little bit of new life. Because it's been going on for some time and this is what kind of got it going again. Next when i started the recall effort. This wasn't really a thing but it's giving them some momentum. I mean obviously there are some sort of self made airs like the french laundry jenner. You mentioned with the optics that were horrible while the rest of the state is being urged to stay at home. And you know not go out not have to restaurants that are indoors and two only with members of your household Broader well Response to the pandemic whether it's the vaccination roll out or you know the school closures disclosures. There's obviously a lot of frustration among citizens and my parents. My small business owners. I think what it comes down to his wife voters place the blame squarely on gavin newsom or will they say this sort of like on a circumstance. I'm like any in our lifetime and trying to figure out how to deal with it. I mean it's it's hard to point to say you know handle this absolutely perfectly. There's been a lot of flaws all over the country so the question is do voters blame governor or do. They think he tried his best. Get something that was a a huge disaster. That no one's ever dealt with before i mean going back to that. Uc berkeley poll. Obviously these things shake out along party lines independent voters in that poll though forty percents and they're opposed to recalling newsom thirty two percent support it so the independence are going to have a large presence there in. I mean how many people turn out to really vote in these other types of elections and whatnot. So we'll see the numbers will be there at all throughout it and that's the question who is more or less motivated to turn out and we don't know that answer yet and first of all if they we still don't have enough signatures we should those signatures are in the middle of march. It'll take some time for the counties in the states. Validate those signatures. And then there's this whole calendar that starts of various bureaucratic have to jump through. It's unclear if there isn't a recall election whether it'll occur in perhaps august or maybe november. The timing is very uncertain and that could also make a difference if by september if things are turned around schools are open if the economy is relatively open. People may differently than they do right now. When we've seen a lot of inconsistency so i mean having the election could also impact you know what happens so there's a lot of unknowns out there but this is still you know. This is something that i think. A lot of people last year political experts in both parties last year. We're very skeptical. This going anywhere and in recent weeks. It really seems like there. There was noticeable momentum on the recall back percentage who knows the book was getting mentors. But people i speak with sacramento elsewhere. Who are not involved in the recall. Believe now that it's more likely than they did in the winter in december. And that's why it's getting so much attention so we'll see what happens on all of that seema meta political reporter at the l. a. times. Thank you very much joining us. Thank you so much for having me on act. That's it for today. Join us on social media at daily auden both twitter and instagram comment give us a rating and tell us or is a church. All those iheartradio subscribe wherever you get your podcast. This episode of the daily divers produced by the right and engineered by tony soaring tita. This is your daily dot.

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Hour 4: 10/22

The Paul Finebaum Show

39:16 min | 1 year ago

Hour 4: 10/22

"Hello everybody you're looking live at fans Ville a college football utopia with a rivers flow with ice cold Dr Pepper attaches where every day is Saturday and everyone's a fan even babies paintings and the seasons never change because the only season is college imagine how much chaos y'all have on a Saturday morning there because it was busy enough on Friday afternoon well it was really good really enjoyed seeing you uh it's all hands on Deck Alabama right now and I I'm I predicted this at the beginning of the year I said I don't know if you remember I said one of the any any national what I've been told by a few others that he can make it happen he's just going to have to release all very very quickly but he's still GonNa get hit and we know that AH jets ready and warming up after the game's over the take bryce young straight to Orange County airport and get him on a white Tuscaloosa because Obama Lsu talk let's get back to the calls in Rick and so cal ripken always great to hear from me and my man thank you very much in Saint John Bosco they're the closest to any college programs that we have here right now so very very excited I've heard that there's going to be kiffin joined us earlier Jesse Palmer started the program off a fantastic conversation with him a lot of talk a lot Auburn Lsu talk probably even more on Game Day or at least the nation Highly suggested and the guy that called earlier asking the questions yes Friday would be the best time to go I can only are four podcast twelve on a Tuesday afternoon and the evening here on the East Coast glad you are with us you cried passion than pattern tree of college football leaves Keer the Paul Finebaum show I and I it's very unfortunate I'm not as confident as you know I don't look at everything through Crimson colored glasses if he's not playing to title sec run will have something to do with Mac Mack Jones whether or not he'd be able to you know to get Alabama over the WHO hang with the one and only Squirrel Hemos Carl man the pleasure was all mine I tell you if anybody gets the chance to come visit you guys nobody else I hope I'm wrong but I just don't see it happening brother so it's certainly not going to be he's always good to hear from you be well talk soon the other day we were in Stark Mike Call Hey we're excited finally for some excellent football here on the West Coast the two best college teams in southern California going at it modern day before the game's over if he's able to play against Lsu that there's GonNa be a point for Max GonNa be right back in there so I'm not as confident as ever one hundred percent there's just no way and they're not going to beat Lsu and so you know that's I think that's the reality of the fact that it isn't as plant for Phil Mississippi and one of the traits of the season I got to run into my where my caller heroes and he sun hung out with this and it was really great on your son Hey same here but I enjoyed watching the the moorhead interview I mean I was away any back I figured it would go down at some point the guy's a bag of chips man he is fantastic when protected and these fantastic with the receipt coming it was not an ambush he was in a hurry to get off that stage I will say that he didn't he didn't linger a long time on with you know oh I would say based on everybody I've talked to these alumni these are people who go to the Games there's about sixty or seventy percent of the fan base that would not carry yeah I'll say this about coach Moorhead He was cordial I saw him the next I saw him twice I in fact I went back to my hotel to drop my what you're going to ask him I don't know if he knew you were going to ask into the follow up in the follow up to follow up but he knew it was what's coming or he made some he made some reference to that nature so it was no ambush because a lot of people want to claim you ambush them and then there was no ambush possible replacements for them already so they you know sofa media's is stronger Mississippi the one interview I enjoyed most was the co versed and you give him time but man oh man now you gotTa do is hit the guy one good time but it just seems like he's limping off the film spins have the have the season under way for a second and you described the way it looked I felt I mean I was there but walking up you said he was coming I kept my side of those who write their checks now I mean I I was fairly disappointed with some of the comments I heard I had no interest in doing anything with with yeah five people listed as Dave Aranda Todd Grantham Sonny Dykes Seth literal and Billy Napier is five if he lived tomorrow and they've already got some names possible replacement candidates have you heard any of those I have not there I'm serious around each other Saturday morning he was very cordial now none of the he is not a very popular coach. I've lived here for twenty eight years and I've Seen Mississippi state coach is coming Athletic Director Johncock thoughts you had thought she had him on the ropes and I I don't know I enjoyed a lot of people Mississippi we're not happy with it ruin friendly a lot of the players were coming on so I had protection and then I I saw again Saturday morning and he sat right next to me on Eh but you know when he said you know I see improvement I see them practicing hard that just didn't make sense to me I mean you you see improvement on Game Day Gordon Rodgers will give us his take on the week ahead we can head in the SEC. After this you're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast back during the break we were listening to on other than have a a friendly interview he's a friend of mine and and and we've gotten along very well he just decided to they'll say that but I personally unhappy about well they were saying he took you to the cleaners and that you try to Kinda ambush I mean what have you kgo eight cheerleader which is fine that's his Farrago but that's really probably not going to work with someone like me recall a little off thanks appreciate the call let's continue with more more college a moment at eight five five four to seven to eight five it came walking up the stairs behind me and he looked at and like her you so I stuck out my hand knitted teach myself and I almost I remember the story you tell about Shane quarterback sneak it really would have been a walk in it might not have been as clean as it looks there but it would have been a touchdown and I believe it would have been a walk in so to see this play unfold no one on the offense new guarantee no was going to do this you know so my sources there at Tennessee power run it was called the power run and means the left side of the offensive line is blocking down the playside guard is pulling around and that is the perfect play for linebackers that are stuffed in the GATT trying to stop introducing the Knicks saving is a shame from the finebaum show and I almost said Squirrel from Bob show but I said Nah I'm I'm shaking dude but this is the worst absolute look to audible into a quarterback sneak that you ever can see I mean there's six guys essentially between the two tackles so it was a terrible decision and but anyway I you know they thought you were kind of went below the belt with with your tactics and I didn't think so that's just radio they can't see what you just showed but summit up and tell us what what possibly went wrong yeah you know it was really tough policy Jordan Rogers Breakdown the big moment in Tennessee Alabama Jordan thank you for the time great to have you on so for those who may have missed it Listening I put myself in the shoes of the quarterback even if you had the latitude from the head coach that said Hey if it's there you can audible to a quarterback sneak which I don't believe he had landed name was seven minutes left in Jones Alabama offense were not moving the ball not saying it would have been a win for Tennessee but that's a completely different ballgame so to clear that up is not called a quarterback sneak Paul let me let me flip it over and get your thoughts on that Jones you've seen him a little bit we'll see him a lot more this weekend against Arkansas in the game broadcasts while I was really eager jumped in the film this weekend and when you watch the play initially perplexed because yeah you see guarantee no guarantee no via Paul was the people that get paid by Mississippi state to broadcast and do whatever they do or going to always take the side way in show what it was and they're actually Jim Chaney dowd up the perfect play here now it's not like he knew exactly what Alabama was gonna do they just kind of fell into it so they have down scheme which and Alabama fans may see more than they want to see of him against Lsu what do you make out of him it's interesting I mean no doubt there is an immense amount of talent it was a great interview don't hold back when these guys I wish I was going to be down in Baton Rouge so you guys this weekend 'til are Marcus and all those people low for me thanks for taking me early in that game with some pressure package is what I like about Auburn and I'm not overlooking them by any means I don't know if they have what it takes to keep pace on the offensive side of the ball but this a lot of times you watch this offense receivers are so good they can get open verse anybody partially that is the case but partially when you watch to it some guy he is so good at me hip relating defenses with his is so yes those receivers can get open but to does a lot to make those openings that big this offense is going to be much different time they're hitting those dig routes over the middle of the field guys are wide open why because in order to get to borough you have to bring pressure this team doesn't have to bring pressure so I don't expect it's going to be as easy for health and we've seen him when he's not healthy he's not saint player I know I know Auburn fans are going well could you could everyone hold on just a second about November a quarterback sneak bills to see a guard pool. There is no scenario on this planet where anybody would call a quarterback sneak with guard pulling just doesn't happen so I wanted to get into the film right aspect shorter throws expect more ball control I expect them to get the ball at Amac Jones hands as quickly as possible because his strong suit is not throwing the football down fields around Mack Jones I mean there's four receivers out if you get in the ball and space they're going to make plays for you but there was a couple throws by Mack Jones that really look at you go you can't put an Alabama unit that group up front they can get pressure with four and when you can do that you can leave those guys in zone coverage over the middle of the field when you look at Lsu what do you see borough he's GonNa make you pay think they slow him down but I don't think they can do enough on the opposite side of the ball to keep pace with Lsu you're nowhere to run did the game with frame this one for us and tell us how how they match up Yeah it's interesting I think both teams really trying to find their identity Georgia they're just keep them out shifts introduce myself and he went on and and he sat down and he knew what was coming because you said you know there's a couple of things one talk to you about we're in Tiger Stadium this weekend break this down for us this one's interesting honestly if you look at what Florida did against borough they gave him some problems bag off meeting somebody was picking me up to go out to dinner and as I got off the elevator guess who are running into Joe He was cordial another chance and not sure what they're gonNA do at that position Tennessee has some pieces in place to be a good football team at least down the road and I think if they find themselves in offense they're built to slow down Berle they're not going to stop him but the reason being they have four guys up front when you look at Derek Brown Marlon Davidson Nikko and can cover with anybody in the country anybody in the SEC that's for sure So of Tennessee can't figure out their quarterback position to pay on the health of our and guarantee no and if he's ever going to have to lean on nausea Harris this offensive line in this running attack I don't think it will bite them this week against Arkansas but you better believe if Mack Jones is in against Lsu after Lsu just exploit the middle of the football field ostrich should be able to get pressure with him on four have an extra guy in coverage but the end of the day if you don't get consistent hits mentioned them Helpless Jigger this game out well it's interesting I mean South Carolina at times has looked really good I mean just flip on the film against Georgia I think they're back in other Games in both of these teams Mississippi State and text today and are limping into the game. A Kyle you saw you were you were in Starkville and offense running the football with the quarterback and with Kylian Hill so Garrett Street or is going to do that Texas A. and M. on the other hand I think for the first time realizing that for Mississippi State Garrett schrader is not necessarily the prototypical quarterback for this offense of what Joe Moorhead wants to do but they're finding their identity and how to be successful Carey so this is a very evenly matched ballgame and when it's evenly matched you really look at that turnover margin the turnover battle whatever quarterback can protect the football the best that team's going to win the football game Jordan Mizzou and Kentucky we thought this would be a really important game the bye week or low is not one hundred percent I think Lsu is going to be really hard to beat if they don't have to it's below at one hundred percent outside the pocket and what I saw when I flipped on the film facing vanderbilt who by the way vanderbilt has struggled on defense and that's put it politely they've been terrible on defense hormone as a quarterback and bounce throw there were two throws he just flat out bounce now you can call it nerves you can call it whatever you want but this is not two he's not that talented and coverage and so all day Kelly Bryant really had nobody opened they couldn't get things going and in spite of the quarterback situation at Vanderbilt this defense really watch this game it was the best performance I've seen it over the vanderbilt defensive line in a really long time 'cause they weren't blitzing the heck out of Kelly Bryant they were Russian ro and as he's one hundred percent healthy and when he is one hundred percent healthy this offense is balanced obviously the running back situation Rico Dowdell TV and features going to get a lot more teams they both have four more losses than they had hoped for but South Carolina has looked really good even losing to Florida and Tennessee you already official really decided you know what I'm GONNA run kill in mind and I'm GONNA I'm GonNa hope that unlocks the offense in this passing game I think did a little bit so I might give the edge slightly with four stunts upfront a lot of confusion and they made Kelly Brian uncomfortable and what we learned was that kind of what we saw at Clemson Kelly Brian is not the most accurate quarter Taylor decided to kind of call his own number probably trying to do the Cam Newton where you jump in your reach the ball I mean he felt like he was that close but honestly it'd be hands off it's a twenty eight twenty game if they can't be successful as an offense Isaiah spill in the running backs they're just not getting it done since Corbin went down early in the season and this is the first game that I think Jimbo in here in the phone number's eight five two four to seven to eight five is dusk on the east coast pretty much close to nightfall and back when he's uncomfortable he struggles with his accuracy that Vanderbilt Defensive Front deserves a lot of credit the back as well and since Vanya was able to get pressure with four they could is night has fallen on this Tuesday night Yankees fans are hoping the world series would open here tonight but instead it's in in and I'm like what is going on I don't understand it because when I watched Missouri on film Kelly Bryant was making some good strides who's protecting the football who's being dynamic with his legs making plays out there right now coach taggered were hit by a bus tomorrow we would not target coach Meyer period I say that with all due respect according to a statement from the athletic director David Coburn he said there there is a lot of complete nonsense floating around I said no no that's a different interview me I said interview are Paul had Paul heading stuttered I mean he didn't know how to answer I mean he just sounded like a fool to Texas A. and M. Because I think their identity and the balance that they can create on the opposite side of the ball with killing Mon- running the football is much better than what Mississippi State's able to do and one that I was doing I was excited about this Paul I would I would have better understand this game because I mean Missouri explain please it over Urban Meyer or or Steve spurrier Mr Coburn and continue to losing at FSU stupid statement come on Kush Meyer but we would not target Steve spurrier either Great that really makes a lot of sense I would definitely stay with Willie Taggart one football game for them Jordan Rogers Great to have you on we will see a couple of days thank you very much sure appreciate it Paul Ordinary Rogers great conversation what happened to Saturday and national Paul I was baffled honestly I doing a game so I just get to see the box score looked at the score and it was following it as arguing with they are definitely more one dimensional running the football and tech say am I think can exploit that in Knoxville on Saturday afternoon I mean you have to ascending in May while there've been some rumors all day that Urban Meyer was being looked at by FSU find triggermen who and I think it will be lower and I think it needs to be they can put a game together so I think it's a very evenly matched team I think Ryan Linski is continued director seem to want to top each other for idiotic statements lately let's get going to Harry next in New Orleans so Hello Harry Paul coming right back you're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast back we're live in New York football season and get a taste of fans Vilnius Fall during a college football game near you Dr Pepper the official drink a fans Ville grab some today they're really I'm sure guarantee is probably not going to be sending Jordan and Christmas cards we're up against the break still plenty of time for you to get unfortunately if if to wasn't able to go against Lsu for whatever reason wouldn't it be incredible if young tool came into that game and a lead aches and Georgia on the weekends with ESPN and You know I'm always looking to the future Paul would it be wouldn't it be incredible week since spoken to as ball tall relating this to find that the good times roll hey you go well Paul's enjoyable past several weeks and then to couldn't get couldn't go to starting job back the rest of the season astor's but he obama to a victory over Lsu de never thought about that would be that would be and will as well have a great evening thank you for listening to the Paul Finebaum Show podcast the Paul Finebaum show Ah exactly the time that I'm finishing right in his tweet and you raise the tweet you know we're talking about it just blows my mind I think that's all I need to say but Ray I think is very secure and I know when teams lose the athletic director always get some of the blame because he ultimately made a he's not a good head football coach look what he did at Florida Florida they have got so much talent house was at Florida and he needs to do but also I think that rate tanner our ad is phenomenal phenomenal baseball coats not get it done he's got somebody else there and his name is tag of a Loa well yeah me listen Super Nice Job met right there several times he needs to be a baseball ambassador for university and we need to get another eight decision but I don't think this season is over yet and I I've seen some very positive signs from coach Mush Champ I realize he won't you can read the tweet and you were talking about was to his brother and perhaps coming out there right fall that's exactly right I do not understand him but blew my mind they really do I'm writing this tweet and you can read it now for yourself you can read my tweet about what and hey comes in here it just seems like such the buckle at the university right now and I think it starts at the head with right tanner and white thank you very much Big Red in South Carolina Holiday Grad good afternoon hey how you doing this afternoon amid I cannot wait to tell Brennan family were on the way and I'll be talking to you see you soon in a bill I still think that will most champ is this guy for the University of South Carolina I just think neutral observer I'm not I'm not long suffering gamecocks fan but I do appreciate your call Jim is up next Hey Janelle these things happen taking those games of chance it looks like the Albans giving all the supports windows right now Auburn's number nineteen the country nobody wants to talk about them he didn't take Florida where he had to go from Florida now we get him at South Carolina he's not really voting thing at South Carolina at all little bit about stuff on the football and been paying all my life but I think that we've got one more we in in us and that's going to be against it whoever the new ad years if we ever do one the first thing that needs to go we'll musty well big red six Saturday night I'd get him in the game as soon as I'm getting into game amazing I start Jones that's exactly right but ball I'm glad to get into tell ya hello and and I'll be walking I'll be doing a walk through tonight commanders getting ready for I oh here's a disappointment Mag Jones I mean at this point in your career you better be ready to go in there and play he's not ready like the guy that's always thank you for the call Ray Tanner very well thought of he I think he was given an extension by Harris the outgoing president I realize there's a new president he's got talent there's nobody surprise us like Nick's sit around and you know let a guy that can't get it done I want to know what you know I just tell you what I know I just tell you the the the the Halley potential possible here me I think you you start magazines against Arkansas and you try to get a lead and then you you take a chance watch certainly and and the guys working with you know Utecht not working they're working timing routes day and night with those four great receivers and it won't be hard this guy around we didn't go my I agree with you on that so that's all I got okay listen Jim you may very well be right well Jim can throw the ball and he gets listen I don't want to be outraged here you just you just compared maybe follow our Jim dropping dimes all over the place let's just we're doing well thank you very much good POW listen I just WanNa let you know I am an Alabama fan trapped in Clinton country you got to have somebody he can you got the four grades was in football and they can't get the ball to him through a Jewish mother can watching trae that's that's my let's continue amy is in South Carolina Hello amy how how're you doing and I wanna thank you for saying everything that you say it this way about the crying Clinton I love it to all these people that know what they know something you think Knicks is GonNa sit around again against the same like and not having the talented quarterback and he doesn't it just what the different so jim by by the time we got to New Orleans two years ago everyone down there was buzzing saying the two was clearly challenge by they cry and they want and they complain and I want to applaud you for exposing them for who they are buy INS and about their quarterback sunshine Clinton has been acting as if they have been in this race for decades we'll see against Lsu and that's only two weeks away three you really you know they got Arkansas play I'm sure they know let me let me ask you this what would you do how quickly would you get him in the well thank you I appreciate I pray and I honestly appreciate your own state and how they're acting as if they are the Alabama the ls she news the George's of football and they're nothing get him in the game sometime in the first quarter you about eight or nine minutes after the first corps into the first quarter and they go and they don't I'm telling you anyway I just love it hey listen I don't at this point in my career I am not really trying to win friends but I've always said this and I'm consistent with this message I'm not going to have a successful program you're exactly right and I wanNA thank you for your own thing because for those of us who are trapped here my obligation is not to the people that sit in the ivory towers my obligation is not to coaches athletic directors my obligation is to the audience this this show that you're listening and watching TV right now is built on on fan participation and if I'm not honest with the audience all championship today yes she was and she called in because she asked you what you thought Alabama doing Roger Said Reich which or backer never heard of him so he came on your show he talks about in the dark you know the guy can't play I'm sorry he can't cut it I just baby is that is that what you're Intel your Intel is telling you that no that's okay politics you just take it for what it's worth that's all I got to say now Jim I'm just telling it like it is because nobody else is the sports in the sports nation is doing what you're doing I don't know that that is a that is a very sapien point I know it and I've got to let's leave on that ball although hobby did I mean the only I mean I I don't know is whether he is ready to play or not well he's he's more ready guy told them on the dirt I can tell you that right now outplaying Jalen hurts in practice I don't I mean you're you're you're you I mean I'm Outta hey fast whatever doing just got her a person that hasn't played college football yet

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BONUS 2: Talk Art Podcast x Homo Sapiens Podcast - Part 2

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BONUS 2: Talk Art Podcast x Homo Sapiens Podcast - Part 2

"The wait is over. New episodes of the walking dead season ten premiering early february twenty first on. Amc plus don't miss the extended 10-season featuring six new episodes each focused on fan favorite characters. Prepare for all new high stakes showdowns emotional reckonings a catching up. On the latest season before new episodes drop with season binges exclusive content in early access to new episodes the best walking dead experiences only on amc plus get lost in the walking dead universe today available at free and on demand sign up at amc plus dot com abc. Plus only the good stuff. Hello miss aping listeners. Count visit is a little extra treat for you. All we've done a special episode teaming up with the podcast talk which is a brilliant protocols about art hosted by russell taibbi and robert diamond. So we've done a homo sapiens. Meets toll card episode where we kind of fused. The two things in the topic is basically clear out. If you haven't listened to a cup for it's really popular. They talked to all different sorts of people about art. Like took stephen fry grayson. Perry billy porter tracey emin. And the reason they posted it was to demystify are an. I am all full. That so part one of the episode is over on twitter feed so go there and have a listen and part two is here on our feet. So you can listen. To the entire episode if you straddle the two feeds in the first part of our chat. We're all talking about the artists that have shaped an influence. So people like madonna david. Hockney and all this part on our feet is part to where we we're discussing the queer art movement and we discussed all the that we have in our homes masterminds from ebay and we answer the famous question which is what piece of art would we still in an heist. We had so much fun. Recording this episode so have a listen and checkout or cards episodes. They're brilliant how the autism today that are queer and and having a big impact on coach Good question. I don't know the i have the answer to that but i was thinking about who i like now and there's this guy could liam partly who is not queer but he came to my attention because he had a bit queer aesthetic. That made me think of david hockney. He's based in hackney wick and he does. These very simple paintings are very hockney. Ask of like they're really cool. I just think he's really interesting. It's actually very current. Because this whole there's a big move at the moment figuration and it says that he's influenced by mcdonald's the beatles and picasso. I love i love that. And it's kind of de mystifying. In the same way. Like i always think people who are making all no indulging the mole pretentious side of are just really interest me because it feels a bit more pure and this is amazing guy on ebay who i think is probably deliberately hidden but like he makes fakes of stuff on ebay. Like say he'll say like this is young johncock to sketch and stuff and so fucking clearly not one because it's three ninety nine a to cause full exactly the same but i still love it because i think something quite fun in playing with that the way that people will change their attitude something based on where they think it's from and be like. Oh good thank him this. I think that's such an interesting thing. Because i've got andy warhol marilyn and the thing is it's the the man who was the story but the man who was the screen printer for andy warhol like after he. After warhol died he still made some turned a few out for extra cash. One of which is the one of the ones i've got. So what claiming they were made within his lifetime. Or do the name him. After andy warhol and i'm not sure if he i'm not sure if he if he fessed up or discovered later but the thing is that he's basing their the same things because they are the same skinflints that came from this thing. And he's the man who oversaw it but he but he sold some after cats. I guess they would just have lying around. And and so. It's an interesting thing so technically is a war. He'll of course. Because i signed the whole thing. Actually it's not sort of sanction. Does the proper way still is a little bit. But i said you know that kind of a you guys sure. Know that sort of hierarchy slash nobody in terms of whatever when and what Providence and all that stuff. So i think it's really interesting though because i it's so ridiculous i've actually gotten onto a maryland and my study in the city and got it interesting. I got to inam. What's up his code kinds of city. It was on on an auction for the opening of lgbt the first lgbt center in kansas city by that country western start Who got sort of totally shut. Die when she came out name right. But tha that was. I bought at the auction. Boys you asked him about queer autists in the future but who for you are those people. Well i think there's a whole there's a whole group of queer. Art movement is happening in new york and brooklyn and but the. There's someone when. I was thinking about this earlier and i thought someone who's really done something incredible with hindi wiley. Who was i. The first man of color black man to ever paint a presidential portrait but also he's openly gay so historically to be chosen to paint their portrait of Barack obama when cheryl did one of michelle obama it's That was a massive moment in our history queer. History black history for for him to have done there. I'm just looking now. Incredible he he he. He's also done a public sculpture of a young black man in of nike trainers sitting on the back of a horse that they put into times square. And it's now gone to. I want to say chicago. But i can't quite remember but it's gone to like a confederate kind of what you call it like next to all the confederate statues. So is this kind of contemporary sculpture. That's now going to be you know alongside all the ones from history. So it's really important sculpture that he's yeah but we've been doing so much research on all this and there's lots of them incredible like photographers that there's a lesbian photographer. Proud lesbian photographer catherine opie. Who actually one of her favorite. Images of mine is justin. vivian bond. Have you seen this image where they are facing out looking at us. And it's a very bold brightly colored background and there was a series of and catherine opie very proudly Lesbian and she really catches lot. The whole very Butch lesbian community and the lesbian bikers and then she really is heavily involved in kind of archiving and showing all the different sides of what it is to be queer and margins than the margins. She's a really really important photographer. But i just when. I saw that know you interviewed justin. Vivian bond. I was like yeah this. This is a really good person for you guys to be awhile and listeners. To be aware just as being this great things right now you know. She paints as well and She has done very sort of our projects actually. But she's doing right now. She does is all these different. People's is a little watercolors and they're really mesmerizing. Seven an expedition in nam province. Tyne but she's been showing them in her on her instagram. But they're little watercolors of is but there are so so incredibly capture. A person that you that you know. They're usually of famous people that you know. She again is is an incredible performance of his trial. Laser performance. everything. Just like really that one and also as a painter cordless for tino. Who's incredible. And then dora dora in lemberg. There's a whole gang entities this show some oil. Yeah and actually. I was wrong. It was richmond. Virginia which is where i'm kahinda wiley sculpture is not chicago. I've just checked for to be things. Don't what would you live with. You live with art works or postcards posters or anything that you love. yeah. I've got stuff around the house like i was thinking about how i went to this house. Like this junk shop in somewhere like near my parents out near like hamilton. And they i went in and there was this amazing painting on the wall. That was like a really simple landscape done in like they represented like the cliffs of dover maybe with three shapes and it was beautiful. And i remember. I bought that painting and it was by this guy where they'd emptied his whole house and he was always just sort of artists for fun and they were telling was furniture and stuff and i got the chair. I'm sitting on from his house as well. But i wish i bought more because it's the most incredible painting that people always comment on and there were two there and i was like. Oh maybe i should get both. But i didn't. If i got the i've got one of the so you know that guy fakes on on the ebay he did one of Roberto chill leader him. Say he did a fake one of those. I have one of those. I don't sell an tell people israel and this is amazing magazine called derriere lemaire wa. I've ever heard of that now. So it's like a french magazine. The seventy s and they used to get really amazing. Artists like raphael. You back and chill leader as well from canada title. Because i think i dare elam lemaire wa is from alexandra calva okay. Maybe that's it. Would they used to get incredible artists to do a centerfold each week in the thing. So you'd get amazing piece of all but for really small amount money so that was kind of my into how i could find get works of people i loved. Obviously i couldn't afford the real thing. So i've called leads of things like that round said that's interesting. There's a thing like that that My friend cynthia rowley and bill powers. He's got to call the half new york. They have a thing. I sort of an online thing. Is it cold where you they would do sort of a small small collections. You call it. They make prince donate. They sell prince. Yes but limited additions of of by vedic interesting people. I've got one by a what's his name. Who just who lived in chelsea hotel and died. Well you know Yeah i've got no anyway. I really loved the idea of actually people thinking. Oh let's make something. It's more windows designers collections for what was up at eight. Am remember did a series of collections. With like my shell yeah. Everyone was like fighting in the isles. They minus cuthbert heart. She made a functional beanbag chair that you can sit on with one of her paintings on it for that company. I know what it was called. It was called exhibition. A do you know. Do you know my friend. David dreamt free. Yes on david run free. They used to live in the chelsea and he painted me a few times and actually did he did. I've gotten our highest a really beautiful. Sorry huge watercolor of me and my dog honey. The my dog died and david pinto law. Actually in this hires. She said that we have these party because and he would he'd be the only one up an honey. The two of them are spent time together in the mornings while we were all hung over. And so he did all these sketches. I know these paintings of her and he wrote a book about people in their dogs just beautiful and they just is amazing things of dancers and he had to pay me in the in the chelsea tail and i loved it because i started going to therapy he told chatty chats to buy stuff hours whilst he painted sketched the history of the hotel as well. I mean that's incredible incredible. Yeah reading credible. I mean it's so it's so weird because you i think the money by night for the hotels standing there night voting all over. Yeah i just remembered patti. Smith's book just kids about her and robert mapplethorpe and yes. We had patio on our podcast. Yeah it was amazing. I love that. She was talking about that being gen interesting has she was. She was almost like she encouraged rubber not to work so he could pursue his art and she would work the them in the way that they supported each other as artists was incredible and the can paying the rent on time hanging around onto the thing i loved about her and alan. You know really well. But like i'd never met her before. But the fact that she is so let you know she so allegedly coup you know she embodies all these things that people perceive as cool but actually she was the one paying the bills she is. She wanted to pull rubber. She went she had a proper job. And she's very candid about things like she said because she did that. Massive song with what's his name. Massive american autism the one that made a springsteen with bruce springsteen and she yen she said oh i'd love to write. Sounds like bruce springsteen. I just can't she's the canada and unpretentiousness is. It was amazing. It was incredible to hear about those times with her and roper. Just living in this tiny room mazing also instinct the idea of like the fact. They were a couple and then how he was gay but he. He couldn't solve a beaver at that time. Well but then yeah we were talking about because then maybe bisexual and she said the amazing thing that she she said she. In those days. There wasn't really the the notion that someone who seems straight could be gay thing until she gets saying used because he was just a guy highschool. Saying i didn't quite understand what it meant and then she explained to me. That's the gay man in those days would be either either hidden completely. Close it or in our big flaming flamboyant sort of stereotypes. I guess i'd to show that to make people understand or but the idea of substrate acting as that closing leases that didn't exist knows days yes so true. I was a story about new york just because we were talking about it. We had Nicky hustling came on the podcast and he was talking about living in new york around the wool whole times. He claims that he discovered andy warhol well as she sorry out. It didn't help. His hair at today was in wigs. Favors actually says nick would him in his post both. Yeah and maybe it's rather freud came but He employed andy as an illustrator invoke. He's to get answers to these drawings. These gigs and nikki said that the amount of wool hosts they used to just sweep up off the desk into the ben everywhere. I go is just chilling. Yeah because he. He's like shoes and jewelry. Yes the fashion stuff. Yeah totally we. Of course i don't know if you remember. We met in the russell. I met in a bath house. History boys no. We met in the bath back. It was actually the russian. The russian i saw that so it wasn't it was predominantly for homosexual crowd. This was a very mixed community is We did meet towels. We did meet. And that's true that's true. And then we hung out in the meantime loads and yes. I met your your mind or carmine. Who's a very nice man car man. I know base that's right and then a member roadway or it's a great thing it's a sort of a fundraiser. That broadway cares. Equity fights is great sort of organization result is money and they have a thing called blood beers once a year. Especially busy this evening of all these dance routines. There's a theme every year but basically all these stunning people basically take a close off. In under this incredible i went on and gold law my underwear at the end and i remember darnell stage and they put like dollar bills in u knickknacks. Yeah just to like raise money and this spring finger up my palm on a member. Finra put twenty dollars. Yeah so thank you very much like whoa actor. I know you evidence that thing. It's called rotation or something. Everyone goes i and you basically just die and people and you're like a big big. Oh boy or girl and you go out and you just people put money in you and stuff it down your jockstrap or wherever you're waiting. I think it's a very interesting and salad. Solitary experience to go through on oil change. My life sounds like a sort of like frat party initiation initiation could and back stages such fun because everybody's getting painted in glitter. All these funny colors. I take some great photos. Backstage is such an amazing. I wonder if you agree with this russell to that. Compared to working in the west end the sense of community and so of of friendship between companies and blood is incredibly different. Isn't it but you know what would you know. I put that down to that. We don't we have here but we don't have the community. We don't have the place where everyone hangs out you play here. You go home. No one really knows what everyone else is doing whereas new york they know everything they what is that. There is such a fan base for broadway parenthesis. The people go and see the shows that have been panned and they were going to see the shows the hits so they can talk about it at dinner and the of community there. I think comes from again going back to it. The aids epidemic and the fact that the community was so brought together from all over america from all over the world and they were brought to this little town this little community and it was decimated and everyone club. Together near broadway fights aids broadway cares equity equity fight you had all these these people rallying and rally in an an an and creating these support networks for all of these people that it created this really strong solid loyal community to each other and i was working with producer. Recently you told me store and he was working in costume during the whole aids epidemic and the tragedy was is a they would be checking dancers and actors for roles in chorus line of separate shows and it would come back and say oh. He's visiting family. Oh he's gone away for the summer and they were all euphemisms for his gone home to die. He's gone away. he's he's eyeing and everybody knew what they were but no almost like he's got aids is dying but it's like going to visit family would come from the agent and you're like i'm saying it now got goosebumps. That was is an unbearable euphemism to get back and he said he was like just ripped through and we had that definitely in the uk but that sense of community. That sent us mytalk growling. Like he's on the sense of like sense of just like activism feels like it really bound together. I it's so interesting. Because when i was in the play in london and new york and i was doing and game at the old vic and i i sort of felt that thing. Where does everyone go. Where's everyone going. What was happening afterwards whereas the and there just wasn't i know london is an earlier town closes earlier and i had to make my peace with that when you think about swinging london but actually hit you have to fuck to find a drink after midnight unless you go to. One of those clubs. I think that's changed. Though i think even in the early two thousands it was still a bit later. 'cause loads of the night i got worse. Yeah so many create nightclubs have gone. And that's they're the ones that used to be open to wish nice. Yeah yeah so. Do you like the moving number okay. Is the new east london. And there is a queer bubble down there. of i think it slightly different in the sense that i mean people do call it shortage by the sea and all that but the truth is i think people. I don't think it's going to become like he did in the regeneration sense only because it is just that tiny bit too far away people to commute from if you know what i mean but i think the thing i have found is a community here of a lot of queer people have moved here and there is a community which i've never experienced in my life which is super super special. And you know margaret was just incredible. Because even though we weren't allowed to do the march you toco the we still have this kind of like a collaboration between everyone so there was a photographer. Hey could lisa who photographed maybe like four or five people in a week or career people and then they put them up windows around the town and then it became a kind of walk. The visitors dead to still celebrate and there were lots of initiatives like that but the nice thing is the young kids. Because there's loads of kids who have gay parents and they were growing up you know celebrating pride from the age of like three four five and there was a big family event on saturday in one of the bandstands outdoors and they had to limit numbers. And all that stuff. But it was just so sweet to see all these kids like dancing and celebrating. And i don the rainbow it was. It felt really sweet. Actually i realized living here. I feel very like i can be myself. I loved it when i went for christmas. I just thought it was such. I love that kind of mixture of You know it's why. I used to like living in his lincoln in sort of the late. Ninety s that mixture of socioeconomic and racial groups. I felt that's what market for me to like a great sense of community. I really really enjoyed myself. Actually your your visit your visit with talk of the town. So many people told me that they saw you heard that they saw you and then you ended up in the local newspaper. It was very sweet so proud to have you here. Actually weren't christopher went. Because i loved your tv show back to life. And didn't you film down the road. Yeah we filmed in dungeon s and high and we because i made it so the writer and star was daisy haggard haggard. And she you know her. And i sat down and she was like. It was a show for bbc three which they don't have a lot of money to spend and she was like i wanna make like an american indie movies like winter's bone and i was like interesting of quit and we can have to shoot it within the twenty five and then i was like actually there is dungeness like that kinda looks like outback america and if we could persuade everyone to go down there to film you get those kind of vistas like an american indie movie so we went and saw stop there and then we sort of based a few bits we found high looks like suburbia but is on the sea. So it's not that kind of cute idea of seaside. It's like suburban semi's on the beach. And i'm saying well that looks a little bit stratum so if we filmed most of the quite similar to tapan palm bay west gate and places like that. Yeah and when. I saw that show. I was just moving to margate or around that time. I think. I think i was still living half in london half here and i remember watching it and i felt like i was learning about. Can't quite strange. Where really beautiful shots of made me think of if derek jarman to because they've done yeah 'cause we so we go like free pass to film on the dungeness estate where you're allowed behind the gates and stuff and we saw germans house and things and that's when they would just beginning the campaign to save the house and the garden which has done another one wasn't he because in the eighties. I think i learned so much about through the pet shop. Boys music videos. You know what. I mean like he made you know before i saw his actual films and read the book and all those things but like i know i think he was so important. And the whole channel. Four like culture of the eighth by derek. Jarman did do they saved his is hosted. In the end she did. Yeah prospect cottage god. Yes yes stunning that garden. You're talking about allen. Did you stand outside your water. And also no road. Yes yes it did up there. And i always find myself to standing opposite staring up thinking. Wow what happened in that. Little flat unique. You guys know the story of what went on. You will say dragged me there russell and when you told me the story which he'll do right now. I was kind of appalled with. No joe and kenneth halliwell college and they were like They became lovers but they never told anyone that they were lovers and they shared this little flyer and what they did was. They had this shared passion for college and they loved colors and they would go to local library. And then there's one in archway and one in holloway and they would take books from there they would take pages at the books and they would also deface them with different descriptions of what the book was about it in the background. It'd be like it and a book by ralph for example and they would write something else that not always reliable went by erm roger kipling and then they would they would write something else in the back to the jungle book. There was quite Innuendo and sexuality so people were then get these books off the shelf from walk to the front and built what the hell is this and they were face the from the images from the inside they call ours the inside of the flat completely in all these photographic things from all these books that told the pages of which they then got caught for sent to prison for six months each separate prisons in prison joe watson completely thrives at the time of his life there came out inspired. Kenneth halliwell completely broken in prison. Came out completely different person. They came out. Joe often became A superstar comedy theater writer. Kenneth halliwell became the struggling. Very ilab. bit embittered actor who is home and then there was at one point where joe was about to go meet the beatles because he was going to shoot a movie for the beatles and the script for them and can to a moment of right each and bludgeoned him to death. We've is evening standard award. And they were there and then killed himself and it wasn't to the driver ryan the next morning to come up and pick up job watson that they realized that this had gone on in this little flat and his whole kind of like it was like when i played with this evening standard awards. Yeah he says i think. Youtube is a great film coming and russell. Toby i'd be for marine. You'd be got off chris. How did you start making films and things because i never. I never realized you were film director. Until they saw back to loud. I star i started by. I started out as a music video director. And i did lots of music videos. Which is how. I met will young ashley and then because i had lost his videos. And then that's how we started this podcast in fact. And that's actually how i met you. Russell do you remember. We met with will once you came to my office when we were doing video. Where will was going to be a pregnant man and we had to do this fitting for will have a pregnant belly per on which was deeply strange. Not for the pregnancy real. Just the whole thing was strange. Why why were you there. You're in the video. No no i mean. We're used to hang out for a while. We'll make sure. Yes yes so. I did lots of music videos. And then because of that i i did lots of videos for lily allen and they were sort of funny said that i to do comedy stuff which is how i ended up doing but to life so always wanted to go that way anyway. My dad was a fashion photographer is sort of. I liked visual things by new. I wanted to tell stories so that time and the rest is history. We ask every guest that comes on if we can do. The truecar normalities is that if you could do in our highest of youtube could own any work of art in the world for many museum or anybody's collection. What would it be a more i would. I would still the jeff koons dog. You know the big enormous scotty a west highland terrier puppy but the popular steel that first of all come it guggenheim in bilbao years deck. Where does it no. It's not permanently. The no i think. That's where it was first them. And oh i don't want to so much not yes. This massive maybe three. I think there's a place as i look onto. This meadow them looking on. My trampoline is on one side and the anthony who cuts her grass. He he he. He does his two circles. One for the trumpeting and another circle as this going to be something else and then a path up so it looks like a coke and two gigantic bulls on. And i always wanted to get something to go in that second circle up trumpian and jeff koons jeff. Koons puppies would be absolutely fabulous. I worked i worked with them with the print company contradictions and we made a print with yoga teller. Which details the puppy. But it has stephanie seymour reclining. Just on the top of its head. She's like all the way up on this giant puppy. And that could be you alan right. It's line lama full bloom. that'd be good eight. Sexual what you. Christopher i think if i had to do a heist of something it would probably be this on e. bay this someone who sells chill leader paintings. Rea- one one i one i love the royal offer me by. That is what your go-to are often. They're probably like it'd be hysterical for you because you'd be like this person is no real salatin touch it but there's one on that it's really expensive and i would steal. That said i could have it rather than it sitting in my watchlist ben. Ice is expensive. I think it's about twelve grand. How expensive k. Okay laughing crazy interesting. Well it's weird isn't it. I realized he could get. Maybe it's worth more than that. I want to look into this. Do you think a fake through providence. If you have to would after before any of the artworks that means it was made after the artists lot lifetime or they can't ready to the artists call after even though it may be the artist. But there's no provenance so this is why it's good. We have had a. My mom had a lowry in our house. There was a painting wasn't real but it was made. I just found out the other day. It's made by ninety five year old woman in reading. I mean i love her. Who will she. She liked to really get a movie. That's another popular ellen team up on this right. I'm over the other. The other question we ask every guest on is what is your favorite color. Who yellow oh. that's nice. How comes do you know why. I love yellow walls. Every every house. I've had has yellow walls a fading degrees and i don't know there's something i think by the way that yellow changes with light and i think just really uplifting to me. I love that color. I try. I have lots of yellow your kitchen if i have a choice to paint. Something kitchens yellow. I just like yellow. It just makes me feel happy. And i don't over think it you know who who loved yellow is money. His kitchen was yellow. Shut up. I went there and i always remember seeing and it was a really powerful experience to walk into a bright yellow kitchen. It's injure verney in france from paris to there. And i think you can travel in a day or something but if you love yellow. His kitchen's like really good. You should let go out. Christopher what's your favorite color might have to be green. I think green is. I like the feeling of the soothing nece. I love to be around. My sitting room is green like sort of dusty green. It makes me feel peaceful reminds nature. I love it. And i think you can dusty green in my sitting room. Yeah you sitting rooms your living room or is it. Is it separates you now. Just the one russell going back to money he has. He had a balcony off the yellow kitchen or yellow lounge or something. You know when you opened the doors the greenwood come in to actually. It's just say since. This is a crossover episode. Have you ever been asked. And can you. Please give us answers. I've got no idea rust. Have we been asked. I want and i don't even know if it exists but my me and my fascinations and obsessions very time. Few consistencies but the one that i really want is not an on kuwabara who did these paintings there ever come through the world. He was saying he would make a painting of the date and the day for free. So that's all they did. And i won't one for my birth and i don't think there is one that exists if there is one it's probably looking about three and a half million dollars this so simple and clean and kind of perfect. That is something that i would cover that. I don't even think i know go. That's what i'm thinking. I'm thinking well one fake one giving a honey leave it with the. Yeah yeah voting for november tonight you were you go if you rub mine has always been the same. Which is free to. Carlos my birth. Which is actually owned by madonna allen with and it's a really tragic birth baby where the mothers died but i've always found that painting to be like so incredibly powerful and that was a big deal my teenage years and when i saw it on loan at tate many years ago it was really shocking because it was so tiny in real life it was like really small and it wasn't in my head who is this giant thing and it was actually but also i'm obsessed with faith ringgold. Who's an american african american. And she did a lot of kind of mosaics. I think in one of the stations may be in new york in one of the chief stations. Maybe like one hundred and twenty-fifth and there's there's all these aspects of people flying. But i couldn't steal that because it's obviously a it'd be taken away from the public reverse we still from a steal from madonna before he's still from the public and color. What color wise. Justin colors as well. I guess i'm always gravitate into like a blue. But more like a kind of grey blue or more slate blue. Or i remember i went to a donald judd's house in spring street in soho new york. Which is the most incredible tour if you have a new york. Just the minimalism of it. That the color of the white. He painted the windows and the metalwork was in battleship grey. And it's beautiful is a bluey grey. And when i came back here. I had a paint make because it was from a brandon in america which you can get here so i found the people here that could get the colluding to make these paints very typic- unless i get the paint made up. There was donald trump's house. Now i have a on certain doors and features in my house so fancy thank you. Mine is mine is orange. I love the color orange. And i've always been obsessed and i love wearing orange. It makes me feel super positive. If it's something to do the way. I look at literally in. Let's say hari. Krishna knows hurricane how orange all the time. Oh my god am i. Think this A religion that's oranges you're right. I think you're right they do that. i think. That's a really amazing egon. Sheila touring where. He was wearing an orange coat which i really liked. Oh my god talking with the gun. She is not concerned about just just to just to wrap up our art art i. I've just had to tell you something. Identity did not use sheila. It's monk. I made some signs the other day. I cooked some nines first time ever. I just felt like nine. So i thought i'm going to fuck off nines. I can do it. He means numbered. Not an old lady. Nine bread yes cook. You cook semo ladies gretel people but they're so you know when nine sort of bubbles up and you have these circles and twenty nine got to sort of circles of the darker circles well mcnabb. Yes yes airbus. But my air my non. This one of them looked like monks. The scream it's uncanny did it did it did it. Did he should instagram. It was absolutely incredible. This like the little face of the person actually and the screaming. That's what my nine looked like. I've still got. I haven't eaten. I've kept in a box if you gave that. If you if you call up. Madonna and say i'll give screen promise it's the real world. Just give me that free decarlo on a number you don't allow when you an colmey yet hang up. I'll give it a go alan. It's been it's been such a joy. Thank you so much. It's been absolutely lovely. This has been amazing. Thanks guys this is having a force. Some what a lovely chat with two lovely boys is ever going to go and buy all my favorite arneb. I hope not anyway. 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Ep. 238: Stop the bleeding

Tights and Fights

49:54 min | 2 months ago

Ep. 238: Stop the bleeding

"You guys can you even believe it. Max fund drive is coming. It's coming up lying. i won't. I will not because it's not a lie so i won't pal max line drive is coming. That's right we want you to help. You can get involved right now without even spending a single cent yet. That comes later. Here's what you do telmex fun. What our show means to you. Email member stories at maximum fund dot org or call three two three six zero one eight seven one nine. That's three two three six zero one. Eight seven one nine and we'll probably handle any compliments very well. Do you have like a like. What are you looking for. Give an example of what like if you heard this message from someone you would. You would like we succeeded in our goal right now. Talking on an earnest note it would be to hear from anyone who feel seen by our show kazan. My favorite messages to get when people messages and say i listened to your show. 'cause it feels like you've heard me thinking as opposed to a lot of other shows. I've heard there are other wrestling podcasts. And i've heard that they possibly have a narrow view of what wrestling should be. And how you should enjoy it. I've i've only heard that. I've been told i mean people say a lot of things. People say a lot of things so i love it when people say listen to our show because it offers an alternative an alternate perspective and it speaks to how they feel on a more selfish. No is a year since. I've been goes therapy of my self. Esteem is very low so any any compliments. I could get I i will accept them. Thank you yeah. I'm not one hundred thing out. But i always love hearing from people who started watching wrestling or are able to to watch wrestling with any pressure feeling like they have to catch or know certain things because they listen to the show. So if that's you let's now or just what you like about the show that makes you laugh. Compliments cookie monster impressions cookie from your cookie monster. What other wrestlers are like other characters. Who's the count whose oscar the grouch. Who's snuggle up against readily. Let us know with your with either your voicemail. Three two three six zero one eight seven nine or you can record yourself on your phone and email it to member stories at maximum fund dot org if no one calls in and does oscar. The grouch is stone cold. I'm going to be so upset. So that's that's my request please. You have your orders. Perfect rosalie it ties. A you know you know. Welcome to tights and fights the show that discusses wrestling with sincerity and hilarity. That it deserves. I'm loves unsanctioned match at lublin. And i'm joined today by my fellow member of the nation of conversation the hurricane khurana lindsay calc. Alo- me. we'll see how are you doing today. Okay that's literally in here. we're now just dab. We've rustling what's going on. We've come full and command. Julia now realizes every word has to be written down. Oh we ought be controlled. I wanna peel onion. That is lindsay. let's get into the layers of it. All therapy yes. Let's do it do it. Danielle is outlined. The snyder cut today. Which both of us have watched. I want to get your thoughts on it. I'll i'll share mine. I because maybe we should put over no never. Here's this is my definitive statement. I'm now making this for the press. I will not be taking questions at this time It is better than the theatrical cut. There are there are lots of good moments and there are lots of terrible zack. Snyder's could never read comic book. He just likes things that look cool as ideas that everybody should say fuck. It is four hours long as full four hours long and the reason why it has to be a full four hours long is because he has to go back and basically wedge three different origin movies into justice league movie so that you care about the characters in this universe and have some sense of why they're there and what they're doing. You have a better sense of motivation for all of them but somebody wrote a review saying that it was better than endgame thumbs from off. I've ever heard is really appreciated lockdown. That person's really enjoyed having a year to take for themselves. An interest to think it's been better for humanity to do this. Yeah i get it and game was only three hours long. But it was also the culmination of eleven years of filmmaking. You dumb douche lindsay. What did you think so my rebuttal. Simply it's actually an entire agreement. This would be the worst ever. I point is. It's four hours long so three points to make that for because that was one one is i thought i lost my mind and then i got to the point spoil it but not really when batman says to the joker that when i kill you and i will fucking kill you i was. I had to rewind it. Make sure i hadn't hallucinated that. Because i was like this. Does that feel weird. It felt weird. I took issue with the fact that joke looked like he'd been superimposed by me on my phone i spent yesterday writing notes to other authors to go in with my new but when you send a proof of a new book you send copy out to other authors before it comes out so that they will read it and hopefully say nice things about it it's basically bribing slash bullying but like the most passive aggressive ever. But you have to write notes. People you know and people you don't so it's really weird writing notes to authors. You don't know say like please. Will you read my book and not shits on online. Which is ultimately what you're doing and in at least seven of those notes genuinely after i ran out of things to say and worked out how to be charming to strangers. Who would see straight through because they knew the purpose of these notes. I literally started writing. Like i am watching. Zack snyder's justice league and also writing this note. And i'm sorry but at least this book is better than that movie and i don't i don't know how that's going to go down but it's happened so i apologize to those authors in advance and then my favorite story about justice league is what i wouldn't see in the cinema because they had movie passes at that time would see anything. I went to the cinema to see it and it was just me and these four or five. Dudes sat in the back row about ten minutes in one of them turned around to the although dude. This fucking sucks and the ship option but just start should up just started and then about four or five minutes to an hour in the same guy saddam This is my day off this week. You son of a bitch and walked out walked out the other one that really wanted to be there with so mad and so upset and all the other friends just laughed at him. I've a definitive ranking for the dc. You films this did not change justice league's place in that ranking now. I mean it was longer than a wrestlemainia. it wasn't anymore it just it was longer than lockdown. It made less sense to dark. And it's two dom and everything looks like three hundred of seen that so fuck it arlo suck. We got that out of the way. No you don't have to do this that you know we're only a few weeks out from wrestlemainia so let's have another pay per view that wrestlemainia had been cancelled Had died so i don't. I don't know if it's happening okay. Well then we'll at least we'll have fast. Which is which is notable. Let it is the first. wwe event. i don't know what they're calling. They mccollum paper. He said he where they call them. Events or whatever. It's the first one to air live on the peacock streaming service there very few of the major streamers that i was not a day one subscriber meeting you how is among them. I use it frequently. I watch at least one episode of cheers a day. That's how my latter stage of lockdown is going we're on we're about halfway through season two. That's how i'm coping. That's my new. see first. Stage of lockdown was frazier. We're actually going backwards. We've to cheer cheers now season two taxes. Going to be before that you're gonna go back. Is lobbying hard for night court. Which i've never seen owns connections but it's not on johncock. We have to find it agree. It has curious if jeff agrees with me. One of the worst series finales of all. Yes i can confirm. He agrees with you and i have never seen it but i do know that he believes glenn rate show. I mean john lower cat anytime someone from night. Court appears in cheers pop. So hard that i think. We're watching wrestling like he gets so excited. So yeah yeah. That's right harry. Anderson was on a lot he would come in yet he went to. He went to boxing match. Up played a con. man is great. The great harry anderson r.i.p. Anyway the network will be gone next month. Some point next month whether it's mid or beginning i cannot remember which not important if we look back on this experiment which was seven years almost seven years exactly seven years long and they're certainly been issues along the way there's a lot of a lot of wwe's acquisitions in the in the late nineties early two thousands all about acquiring tape libraries. They knew that the value and had the foresight at the time to realize and i know they tried to launch their own cable channel. There were a lot of stop and starts before before we got to to their streaming service. But they've they were very smart to become sort of an archive of all level wrestling. And figure out how to monetize really really smart business strategy when we look back on the wwe network and its seven year run and where it ended up. Do you feel like it is a success. Given the fact that we know it didn't always hit the numbers that they wanted to. I don't think they ever did really taking the corporate side of the numbers and what they were trying to achieve. Because i can't speak to that. I only know whether or not they think that was successful without analyzing it. 'cause like baby doesn't do math but from a viewer perspective as someone who signed up at the very beginning I thought it was a huge success to me as a viewer and as a wrestling fan. Because i watched it all the time a genuinely found it to be a meaningful resource as a wrestling fan. Like i got to see stuff. I'd never seen go to see stuff. The i loved the. I have wanted to see again. I just really loved being able to dig in. Go find stuff very easily and without having to fuck with youtube. Which i hate a so. Yeah i loved the network. And i am sad to see it go. I'm sad. i'm sad for my loss of my friends at w. network. I use it a lot as well. I thought it was really really smart. I know they never you know. They look the tip of the iceberg in terms of the amount of content. They have especially old school stuff. That now i think i think even just to attack it from a business side so i i agree with everything you said on the creative side. I'm going to go business side where they found a way to continue to monetize that content without being responsible for the overhead of site making updates to it. That's something that they don't have to worry about anymore. They don't have to be beholden to on every investor. Call say well here's how many subscribers we have a net and we're trying to offer a free month to get people in now folks with their. They're going to drive people to peacock which is good for peacock and peacock gives them a built in subscriber base. That they can use juicy huge they will be able to better separate out all right. Here's old school. Here's current here's everything. Yeah everything you need to watch. The w never needed to be a network. Just what they have here is is fine so i think it's a really smart exit. They proved it out enough. That another company was like this is valuable enough to us that we want to pay you win a license your footage from your or wire content library rights. Yeah that's that's a huge deal and they've. Wwe app was not perfect. You know the interface was not great though. Always problems are always glitches now. How many times. They rebooted it revamped. It always issues having played around in the peacock version a little bit for the last couple of days. It's not super intuitive to me even less so than the wwe. But i have faith that it could get. I'm sure there's a bunch of people this weekend. You're going to be like wait. W w reason here. now. I'm going to wash mania i loved as a kid. Maybe they convert them the fast lane you know. And then they convinced them for wrestlemainia which sadly being cancelled and died in the woods so sad to hear it from memory. Be a blessing a couple of matches from fast lane that That i want to dig into very quickly. One being daniel bryan vs roman reigns the last time these two faced each other at a pay per view at a fast laid with several years ago to help establish rangers and main event player. Now roman reigns is made of player and daniel bryan is the filler viewed until we get to edge. That said what is the best possible. I'm gonna ask for both matches. What is the best possible outcome to this. I'm just amazed me sad. Because i want to be so excited for daniel bryan roman reigns. It has so much potential to be an absolute bond stola. But it's phil feud so. I don't know do you know what in my heart of hearts in my dream ha and my lindsay gets to grant three wishes. That would be a sad use of a wish. Wouldn't it anyway. It would be that daniel bryan would somehow win this unlike let him lose it again on roy in two weeks you know but like let him hold it this week. Let him polled it at raw this week and then have him lose it right before mania summer slam ninety nine right. I listen the first match of mania and make him wrestle two matches the your again. He's done that before. We'd be mad for a love that he'd love to do that again. I know it has to end up being roman. Ed it has to be. There's been the build i just. I hate to see daniel bryan being used as filler. If you're not going to do it in an innovative fun way. I hope to be surprised by the booking. Don't think i will be now now. You apollo and big e facing off the i see title. It's built for a while. I think it'll be good match. I personally my preference would be to put the title on apollo while he's still building up in a big each as i don't think it hurts is really hard to hurt biggie right now. Yeah i mean this feels like a mania latch to me not a fast lane match. So i am assuming shenanigans of some kind to have the spillover into mania I think it's bringing out the best in both of them if you can if you believe this is the best version of apollo. I'm still on the like. Let's just keep this goes. Because i just don't trust them and it's nothing to do with him and his office do how good performance he's doing. I just don't trust them. And so i'm into it. I love what it's done for big e. I deeply enjoyed his. Let's get many von his ass. Promo he went the full jewels of reservoir dogs like he is going berrocal and i i think anything that lets big e show you how good he is. I am into because for so long. He had to be the goofy happy smiley. Still the enforcer of new day but still goofy hip swollen. Big idea in pelvic thrusts. And i'm like no. I want to be afraid when he looks in that camera. With that intensity he is a giant man. I should feel like he could main someone for nine. Now it's you you take. What am i take yours. Now you come here to hurt me not computer. Maybe you now. Now lets you step on my lawn. Does your house beating you bidding you now. That's not enough no end to end you. Also this is too big men slop mate so meaty men's lap me an angry meaty. Men's lop mate. You love to see it. You'll love to see it. I'm i just want this on the mania match and i. i don't wanna be that person like vince. You give me these two fucking black men fighting over title a mania and you give me two black women fighting for a title over mania and you fucking give it to me straight and you don't fuck with it and you let these people be as excellent as they are. You've damaged your issues mania that already where the choice you made today so you give me these fucking things or again. We'll have to have a really set memorial service about that time that it was in a plane crash. Do you want to call an audible talk about that before we go into the main event if we're just most of aew in case you aren't aware. And i feel like the people who listen to this podcast now. Now they've announced the wwe will be co-hosted by titus o'neil and hulk hogan l. What feels like a blatant attempt to rehabilit- like look titus is with him loose black friend. Look he's got a black friend. Everybody else got a black friend. Everything's fine now right now. He talked to his one. Black friend. news won't block friend said it was. Okay fuck me fuck. May the tone death of this even tone deficit. it's like jesus christ. This country is more divided. The world is more divided than has ever been. I didn't go through an election cycle for the shit. Like if i wanted this. I would've. I would've let the other guy win like i didn't spend the entire fucking year campaign and raising money and getting my citizenship. So that fucking hulk hogan could host wrestlemainia. I woke up and saw jane of text messages from you guys that i genuinely couldn't believe it when i did open text message. My brother said the exact same thing. Like i i. Just i can't believe it. I cannot believe it and yet believe it. More than i ever believed anything in my entire life. I'm so fucking satisfy. Titus i cannot. I don't know what his reasoning is. I'm not gonna go into not gonna wonder i'm just gonna assume the best of him because i know he's a fucking great guy I don't i don't get it. Don't get it except racism. But i don't i don't understand why how i legitimately wonder this and none of us can know the answer unknowable. Whether or not it even makes a difference for like who is watching them to go. Well i'm tuning in now. Hulk hogan is going to be on a mike for ten minutes across two days. Holy crap i think those i think those people do exist. I don't think they're good people and certainly such a concern to me and like i mean there's just so much you could speculate wildly and we all know that's my favorite fucking thing to do but it's like a peacock was like can you. Can you get the ogm fella. The kids love that hogan fella. This peacocks. I like what was the conversation who was in the room when they sat down. And said what do you think about getting -tarian who was not as first time on television. He's been on. He's been on raw bunch on now but this is like there's no it's no surprise really you haven't had him on for a while. This is how you get to reintroduce them. They've been no and it's to reworking min and re since he showed up mania in new york. When alexa bliss was forced to enjoy his fucking presence he showed up that and did a little light. Da it's me i'm back. Racism doesn't exist anymore. I'm forgiven because apparently titus. Oh like i it adds nothing takes away so much. That's why i don't want to apologize on. Wwe programming at any point. I talked to some boy scouts. No he didn't thank you. Thank you just double checking. I just i just want all of our listeners to know that i will likely still be watching mania. Because i'm weak and a hypocrite. But every time he's on the screen. I'm gonna tweet that thing that he said because he said that that he said and you can't take that back and he hasn't apologized apart from apparently to some boy scouts so i look forward to turning off my comments closing my dm's and just pointing some stuff out. Not only that. But just something to think about usually now like you had the the teen vogue editor who they like. People get things uncovered and it destroys their careers. He made more money. Oh yeah from that videotape. Oh yeah or at least was awarded more money. Who knows what he actually got off of it but he made more money off that tape that he probably did his entire career by a long shot for him. Racism paid off. Yep yeah if anything you could say it raised. His profile is not just the payment that he made out of gocha it also raised his public profile so high and it made him a character in all of this it made him a character in the them and us bullshit by them. I do mean racists. Because he's a hero a hero to some terrible people. Because e made out like a bandit on this note will. He didn't do anything wrong. i'm like he did. he did though. He said something really wrong. He's sets on and that didn't even have anything to do with the video like they'll the he was allowed to to be painted as the victim because a private tape got leak. Yep and got reported. Let's not forget now that it wasn't like he didn't he maintained a pretty clear squeaky clean public profile than this gets out. He gets to play the victim. He does suffer. I mean. I get it that he lost his. Wwe contract also a ton of money and they brought him back. This is not a and this is not the same as like a james gunn where he gets released by disney for dump stuff that he'd already apologized about and then he apologized again yet. Like took responsibility. Said i was one hundred percent wrong. That was stupid. And i completely understand this decision. I don't remember hulk ever going through some of that comes. Hey i'm the victim. That tape never should have been out there. You never should've known now. I'm not black. I'm not in a position to accept anyone's fucking apology of behavior. I will say. I believe there is room for people to grow and learn from things that happened in the past when they were ignorant that those levels of it at this levels of everything. There's certain things you can't fucking comeback from you know like some of us still take issue with a certain very popular prince these days for not looking at the Halloween by was even the halloween party. Just dress up. As a nazi. You don't like some of us. Still find that fucking problematic when other people celebrate that guy now but like you know maybe he changed any grew and ignorant. I'm not sure how you can be that ignorant but like some people say stuff that they think it's funny or they say suffer affect and they didn't realize they didn't know in the time in the context and the culture whatever certain things were allowable on now and as long as you know it. You've grown from you loan for it. You acknowledge it publicly. You ask for that forgiveness and if you don't get it you don't get it but like i believe room for growth. There is a a huge difference between time served and doing the work huge difference. And you don't get to just wait out a statute of limitations and then poke your head out. Say we cool. I met with a couple of people. There's work that needs to be done. How come all valley. This is not about wrestling anymore. At least we're talking about wrestling the of anything to say about what we've discussed so far if you can follow it then. The conversation continues on facebook twitter. Instagram and discord. We come back. We're going to talk about what's going on with the awa women's division for good reason major update coming next on tights. And he folks. It's me james m host of minority corner your home through these but wild times for weekly doses of pop culture history news nerdy stuff and more queer and allied lens. Lets how you get joel schumacher. Putting nipples madman advert. And i say this is a game. I say this is the game man. Didn't ask for it. I don't need to see batmans nipples on board with this. I did a bunch of research. I wanted to just know about the history of black people in our so. Not only did they race. What people from their history. They also started to flip and use slurs. Were not done like we're not done with the work that needs time in so stay awake. Join me and some of your new. Every friday here on maximum fund to stay informed empowered and have some fun minority corner because together we are the majority of cash text and fights. I'm how loveland joined today by so much coffee if one corner of wrestling some extra attention this is our mainland the good it should only add some point that will be longer than a full episode. We don't we don't go we don't go we don't look back. We only move forward. It's been years in the making lindsay has like. Would you mind telling us in in an expanded version of the house segment in podcasting today. What happened in the aws division. This week how you sat down. I can see that you that. Was i sit and ninety five percent of the time i get yourself apple. Watch an ad julian on it. You'll never see again. See him drink about protein. Keep waiting for start pace in pace in the room while doing bicep curls while because he knows i'm sat here right now and i can not compete with him on my apple. Watch while we're doing. This how i just. I want our listeners to driving safely. If they're driving them to slow this over. I want everyone to be because at blood pressure is about to go through the roof. Not only with a two matches this week to women's matches two of them in two hours and two years to matches one of them was only the faulk main event. Talk about that is i. Don't care about the match. Like i think she's great. I think she's going to be incredible. It was a squash. Whatever it happened. We'd an unsanctioned lights out match between thunder rosa. Dr baker thunder rosa from impact is that. Nwa women's champion. She's eight l. u. I believe time. Because she's there all the fucking dot says she might as well be. I mean it doesn't mean anything anymore. Nothing means anything awa anymore unless you're in a faction so and it's the best of my knowledge. She isn't yet but she's there now. She's all the time. Okay let's do this. If you will permit me please do this as bad news. Good news and i'll do the bad news. I think you're gonna get yeah and i. I will say this that. I thought both women did a fantastic job. I see we've moved from ripping off. Wcw new japan to To ripping off e cw cdw. They were like to fucking fluorescent light. Bulbs away from me vomiting. They could have told that exact same story without both of them. Cutting themselves open and bleeding everywhere. It was not necessary. It just didn't. I didn't need it. It didn't add anything for me. I got that they wanted to beat the crap out of each other. It didn't need to be unsanctioned either at felt like a match that they've sanctioned a bunch of times and also to me that sort of goes it's the main event. But it's unsanctioned it's unsanctioned which i know is not what they're actually say. This is such a heated rivalry that we couldn't sanction a match between the two of them. Because it's so dangerous. We couldn't handle the liability of two wrestlers with with a bunch of chairs ladders and tables that we keep under the ring at times. That are used very often. We can't sanction that unless both of these people showed up with fucking samurai swords you can sanctioned the match and the lights out lights on thing did it was really weird. I i i. I'm so glad that that women have made main invented. I wish the there's no reason. Why in twenty twenty one that. That should be like made a big deal right now. We should not be celebrating this right now. Today is a very sad day for wrestling and the fact that was celebrating this on the day. That all cogos voest wrestlemainia what. He's is ravi. i i really wanted to. I wanted to like this match a lot. More than i did it just as soon as the blood started. I was like this as i. That's all i can think about. I just you look. You look a little green and sad. You look like a sad kermit. I hope that that a large amount of audience enjoyed the match. If you enjoyed the match then it's great. I'm not saying. It was bad objectively. Just for me i just. I'm done with the bleeding and shit i'm done with people taking shots to the head. I'm done with the thumb tacks. That doesn't add anything for me. We know from watching these matches that whoever introduces the thumb tax is going get down on the tax. It's the rule of thumb rule of tables smelted. Empty the bag out and and just do a frog swept onto his in. Get it out of the way and then let's move on. I applaud all the effort that everybody put into the match. I wish i had liked it better. That's it it's not even. I wish they had done a better job. I wish that i could say that that was my that was my bag. And as a main event it that felt like it should have been a pay per view match. If you're gonna pull out all that stuff. And they i don't know i just. I really wish i had liked it more. Because now i feel like if they never do it again. That's somehow my well. I should have liked it more. I didn't. They gave me a bone event with women in it and i didn't like the bad news for how our opinions nothing and if i loved it and you hate it they would not give off good good good. I'm glad everybody is getting work. And doing stuff i just. I wish i had been more into it. Especially considering the fact that i like both performers. And i like the feud and the build that they've had and it's felt like a really nice slow burn. Also why is it not over the belt. Well i mean this is. This is the thing so my take on. All of this is that. I did enjoy the match with provisos and ultimately i came down. I've watched a couple of times. I think about it a lot. It left me with more questions than answers when i stopped to think about it. So just on the whole. I watched it my initial just watching. I watched it live. Because i want you know what my eyeballs. I've been asking you for more women and asked you for what has made you gave it to me as well watch it live you get my rating. They don't care but again. Like i asked you for a thing and you gave me so i will watch you. I thought it started kinda slow. Wants it picked up. It did not stop. And i like hugh. I'm not a fan of blood. Like you know i don't like bleeding bleeding sake i also don't like heavy bleeding and britt. I think when a little deep britain have babies i blade. Job may have been a bit much. Which was she's medical profession. I know only you. You knew but other than this didn't probably need to see her doing it in the corner when she was under the ladder. I feel like the camera. i'm kind of about. Why is she ducking your head down. Okay cool which was a fuck up because it really affected her. Makeup makeup was great although cleverly red eye makeup so the the blood really merged and it made it was beautiful effects from it from a aesthetics point of view but i was really worried her eyelashes coming off because she kept having to rubberized. And there were points late. Rebel of fucking towel but that's-that's by the by these are the things that affect lady when she watches wrestling. And i'm like a lashes flashes. Well they stay on budgetary right genuinely concerned because she wanted her eyelash off. This is going to look weird. I what you get from such a load of perspective. It's not just whether or not i enjoy the match. It's not my personal lake. Do i like this kind of much. I don't i don't like death matches. I don't like hog matches. I hate that. It's such a fucking. Aew trope wrestling like everything else is romance novels. It is packed with tropes. It is packed with stereotypes and archetypes. And a w is guilty. I think than anyone for using shorthand and it's lazy it's lazy storytelling. But there is still positive me. That is an angry lady. Angry woman who plays very much in the anything you can do. We can do better sandpit and at several points during this match. I was screaming. Have that much because this match how to brutality to it was entirely lacking from the kenny mocks match where i felt like they were tap dancing around that bob dwyer just playing in the middle of the ring casella who don't want to go to close too soon whereas these are like. Hey how about we just fucking try to kill each other on telly and they did and they did and it was a lot. They shouldn't have been in a position where this was something that needed to be done to prove anything. They're both super talented performers. The evolution of brit baker from when she started to now. It's fucking insane. It's like l. All meteoric lake from those early promos where she was just bombing every time. Show a mouth. Which is just a very bland diva because i care about every single one of you in here and because i am an honest role model. I have to tell you guys that right now. We are on a commercial break because there's no way in hell. We're going to wrestle just for huntsville alabama right. It's going to be on. Tv to where she is now were anything she says. I listened and i believe it. And i can and her ring skills their her storytelling skills are superlative. She's a fucking dentist. Like i mean. I genuinely think she is a star. I wish she wasn't in eight. You i wish you as an xt so bad. 'cause i just think she would shine. I think she would absolutely would abroad our on quicker. They would have developed a character faster. She such a natural. He'll she's so snarky a wonderful at if a building her like to be a face a face but the face of the company if they're building out to be the bad guy. 'cause i want i don't wanna see thunder rosa versus sheet or again like an. I love thunder rosa. I wanna see brit shida. I won't i won't that match with britain cheetah unless bleeding and fewer contacts. 'cause those two could also kill each other. It could be a good match but lost. So where does that leave brit he. I hate to compare and contrast. but it's literally my job. You look at annex t. You even look at main roster. Wwe you can see where everyone folds into the puzzle. It's not to people in one story to people another story everything's interconnected you see where it goes like. Raquel and dakota lost the women's tag team titles because we're kelly moving into a feud with eeo which also then creates friction between and raquel like everything builds into each other. They've also pulled in the zoe. Stock debut into that few to build her like everything plays together in comes together. A w nothing feels like. It's part of a bigger picture for the women. It just feels like giving someone a spotlight for one minute. And then it's gone away at the very least it showed the pull off a longterm storyline. Because this is several months but now where does it go and who does it into that is always the issue. Right is as soon as a story and that's the the curse of of running wrestling promotion and also being a wrestling fan as once that's over will what's next. Yeah that was great. That was really exciting. Now what are you going to do with the two of them. 'cause i don't wanna see them wrestle each other anymore wrestle each other ever again i like i feel like i. I feel like the next natural matches britain shida because even though brit lost it feels to me like she's the stall that came out of this but she lost so ossetia the guardian. Get an offer sheet. And i love shida. I absolutely love sheet. I love her matt wrestler. They haven't given her anything to do. I would put in a long term storyline. Not not maybe not as long as this. But i would have shida stock so what i would what i would do if i was booking a w women's division who they will never hear this. They don't actively confirmed by people at eight. All you i would have. She'd be like johnson challenge. Just come out and be like every week. I'm going to take on a challenge at every week. I want someone and have that. Be the second women's match of the week. I wouldn't even have that be there. Needs to be two a week fuck. Uaw to women's matches on dynamite every fucking week from here on in. You gotta give it to me. I would have one of them every week. Be shida taken on challenger. And then eventually i would have get to brit brits at the bottom of the pile. She lost this match. I think bert bakker would make an amazing champion. Cashew would be the fucking worst would be so great so great. She could wear it when she did. Dentistry love if you have any thoughts on what we've discussed here connect with us on facebook twitter instagram and discord via the league's in our show notes. We'll be back after this with some things from the wrestling world that you should know about. This is tight. Simplex i riley smell. I'm sydney mcelroy. And taylor smell and together. We hosts a podcast called still buffering where we answer questions like. Why should i not fall asleep. I it is under party. How do i be fleet. Is it okay to break up with someone using emojis and sometimes we talk about. No we don't know find out the answers to these important questions and many more on still buffering a sisters guide to teens through the ages. I am a teenager. And i was to butts but spot spots ball. Welcome back to tights and fights. I'm how lublin. And i'm joined today by lindsey county. This week we want to end the show by sharing the joy of wrestling with you. This is the three count lindsay. What would you like to put over. I forgot we do this. Even though we re week and i was like what will put over. We'll probably know an x t because they're all out with govan so i actually even though we spent the main event talking about this. I wanted to put over. Because i think it's not fair that she has lost in the shuffle. I wanted to put over rebels involvement in the women's. Not john awa because i think she adds so much brits character she added to the match on the revolution pay per view and she cracked with the the crutch like she really ads and she plays that supporting role so well i think she's so good at it. I think she's very charismatic. She's a brilliant actor. I think she genuinely a good actor. I love facial expressions. I love that. She doesn't overplay. She knows how to be that very very strong supporting role. She does what she does excellently. I would love to see how get spotlight. But i do still want her by brit side all times so we really just wanted to give her credit where credit's due. Because i i think those supporting roles so often get overload especially when it's a woman and especially when it's a woman eight because late you know there's only four seconds to give any women attention on telly. So i'm putting over rebel because she has been doing strong work for months now and it needs to be celebrated right. I'm gonna put over something from an x t a not the way you think. There's a dairy queen commercial during the show with johnny canvas. And guess what i loved him. I love blizzards. I love the way. I love watching the two of them now e. I'm i love the two of them talk about their relationship. Their couple kids get into live their dreams. I know it's a commercial by just bear with me and let me have something good in this fucking world. Fans is johnny gargano. Sorry on and off the road. We know a thing or two about happiness for us. Happiness comes from being together and sharing in lifestyle moments. This is our story about how share happy presented by so. Our new family is fantastic. It feels like what did you say. Best friends even we are. Yes we were friends then. Best friends and now husband white. I just love to do all these fun. New exciting adventures with each other. I love it. Basically just live their dream. Why didn't they eat the food. How why didn't they eat the food. Those chicken fingers look good. Go on julian. Would you like to put in the over. Yeah okay something never expected this. I always think back on. What my favorite wrestlemainia moments are and aside from the good matches. I like when the story lines play out and end the way they're supposed to end and it feels really good and you get a moment where you feel like you know the usually. It's the good guy winning because heels exist to lose and my favorite example of that is the shows that they ever did a wrestlemanias. They ever did. An arena happened in chicago and the match was shawn. Michaels versus vince mcmahon and on paper. That sounds like the stupidest match and the goddamn world but when you basically have the full context of shawn michaels getting beaten up for. I think a few months at that point by vincent man returned to his most evil self. This match is an exercise in elderly abuse. Automatic is taking out an entire half years worth of frustrations on vince mcmahon. He slams him over the head with magazine cover. That had just come out with. He beats up everybody who tries to stop him. He handcuffs shane to the bottom rope and flips them off before he jumps off of a ladder and lands on vince mcmahon. Who's on a table with a trash can over his head. It's just it's wonderful. It's so cathartic and it's just like jr's having like an orgasm on the microphone on commentary the whole time because he loves seeing. Vince mcmahon get beaten up. It's just it's so much fun. 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Beauty and the Beast (4194)

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Beauty and the Beast (4194)

"Bugl audio newspaper for visual world. Hello buglers it's monday. The seventeenth of may twenty twenty one. you may if you are a britain-based listener now give you a headphones or speaker a hug and it will register as a legal hug for the bugle. Podcast which this issue. Four thousand one hundred ninety four. I andes altman host joining me this week. A former resident of i the same house i lived in and be the same womb. I lived and worked in for nine munster. Not at the same time. With the case of the quibbling sibling. helen's altman. That was your longest office. Job wasn't it second-longest allah secondly. I lost a full eleven months in the other one. Well full destination joining from a strange faraway place in another world or at least for another off this world if this is indeed a world anymore. It's alice fraser halloween candy. Yes indeed. i am in queensland in australia. The strangest of australians. And as far as places go go quick. 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Would you say looting getting getting in the way of everyone tag. also a most none of sarah palin children to tag the barracudas is the symbol of california Such campaigning using symbolic animals. Of course not allowed here in the uk after that tragic incident in wales which led to an entire village burning to the ground Is it possible the johncock simply making a big play for the electorally. Crucial voter demographic of people who wants to be able to shit in the woods without the threat of prosecution. That's woj tactical running by for me. That does make sense. Our dad was very motivated by finding property where he could be outside without any fact. He's the like a late bloomer. Or what generations. Bopha ms silence. So yeah he is john. Fox's republican vita demographic maybe is all about Exterior evacuations sharing a lot about a family in this episode. I'm proud i'm pig us news now adam. Some very exciting news Recently broken by the new scientists website her helen about pigs being able to breathe oxygen through their pig houses Yeah that's the boss. Pigs have pig us yes Also there's Sausages process former believe. I'm so i mean what. What implications does this have for for humans because you know obviously we. Yup pigs are now very much all role models and inspirations Has served as a species as joel tapped into so. I'm what am now. Wha- just explain exactly what pigs do why and how this might benefit us well They enhance the ties. The pigs and essentially put ventilators up there acids when you open ventilated in hospital down your throat. It's pretty unpleasant. It requires a lot of heavy drugs. It can be very traumatic and can damage your lungs whereas up yours. Moss s damaging. So you think you have. Pigs can do it. Maybe humans can breathe through their offices and maybe ultimately humans will find be literally able to talk out their arses. Well they haven't quite dealt with yet is the fact that it's it's not it's not a passage is only for pudding. Ventilators up the stuff that comes out. So that's that's true of pigs as humans as it seems to be quite common amongst mammals. Yeah okay so the problem. Is i guess when you shit into your ventilator yes well that's that's a famous saying isn't it don't don't shit ventilator and shit where you breathe justified in other animals News groundbreaking operation has been performed on a tiger Here in In england a telugu with bad is is now Had a a special operation. And it's always a good again. If i may simplify the story Hopefully this will have mandrake leads in the line type effects way under. Please take the throne at the lines foot. And then india reno and the romans bang for the law into tweets Age the christian gladiator the lawns at now This disguise okay. he's He took the thorn foot. Give me someone else to to death But if we could save tigers is is possible. they will then also let us blunt in that teeth in stockton tearing us limb from limb as they as they love to do so. I mean this is kind of songs we need isn't it. Do you think you'll be like a saint jerome. In the lion. Took the thrown out the lines foot and then the lion just followed him around everywhere just be following. Cataract surgeon around the lawns fearing clingy. Well in some in some parts of the world the stone cold tigers is believed to ward off the evil eye But in this instance the evil eye was the tigers. I and it needed an operation and we gave that operation so it can see us better and make its plans at one funnel piece of animal news. It is immersed that roald amundsen nine hundred eleven twelve antarctica grand prix. Robert falcon scott to the south pole could be disqualified retrospectively after new evidence suggests that he might have known on the illegal still warm flesh of raw penguins and his victory of the flat flightless flappers by roaring now i am become death destroyer of penguins of course penguins Contraband under the The laws of antarctic exploration at the time before they fully discovered Anabolic steroids and the always powder expiration star apparently learned to eat penguins on an earlier expedition. Where it was found by an american doctor. Frederick cook that charing down on raw penguin could stop you. Getting scurvy Mitch on a as as a as a parent who has spent much of the decade in half. I joined to encourage children to eat healthier food. You've only known. Role penguin was an option Then we might have fewer fights over over broccoli. I'm apparently they used to trap the penguins with With music what they got a crew member who had a corn with him to start tootling the colon. The penguins would world laugh at this described by one of the the people in the admissions being. Let the pied piper of hampton penguins award up and then the Killed uneaten which ship music is spanned. Wight that's why if music food of polar expedition plan Must have left. The penguins feeling pretty broke off. No pandemic news now and well as mentioned the star here in the uk. It's party party party time Hugs allowed again. There is salva concern about the so-called indian variant which is challenging our beloved uk variant in the global race for top variant The government is going ahead with easing lockdown scientists warning the risks and the government is responding. My saying yeah well economy can if you want. But maybe donen saw light yet. Which is the kind of clarity. We will come to. Non love us most tedious over of global crises. How are you going to celebrate the reopening of Of bits of life this week well. I read a five point guide to save hugging on the bbc website. Since seaport and says don't go around hugging everyone outside. Turn your face away from each other and keep hog shorts so basically hug someone like being forced to make up. After an argument song. We understand this is the thing andy. These like relaxing of the rules against hugs reveal. Only one thing and it is that hugs would never allowed in the uk. Social distancing regulations were merely tissue in vale of the deep british desire to remain six feet away from everyone up to and including the nearest and dearest loved ones except when berry drunk. And the only reason that we've had the regulations in place is to balance the urge not to help people against the also deeply british urge to complain about things. And this is a very exciting new conspiracy theory on on this virus. Run necessarily as we see safe all being bill gates trying to implant robots into people's brains. It's actually the british people trying to avoid awkward social situations where expected to have physical contact with other people when our national damage has wrought some havoc on the world's in the past so there is previous form. Yes this is one of the things you notice about at quote unquote ethnic jokes. Like i find if i tell jokes about my jewish culture at an indian people relating to. We have domineering mothers. Who want to hug you a lot as well and then you find that it's related to other cultures as well and it turns out the british the weird ones. You'll do what we touching your children yet. Your the ones who have this strange inability to express your every other. Cultural earth is actually quite good at communicating olympic like takeover different countries to prove their love for them. So i can just keep cake. We're been told as the government has advised caution with the with the relaxing of Of guidelines the latest protocols all that restaurants can have customers inside but in order to deter people from spending too much time inside with other people. Stop should be as rude as possible. Food should either be cut or undercooked and instead of ambient music venue should play the sound of industrial drilling. Fox's and prince charles wrapping. That should have been back outside. In two thousand twenty to thirty minutes max cinemas meanwhile have been advised to show really terrible films that people out from in the first half hour such as any film featuring a concept vow on this podcast and sports similarly has been instructed to minimize the time fans been in stadiums and arenas boxing home teams to tank it in the opening minutes of referees to give unjustifiable decisions against the home team and for the pa system to announce. The club has being taken over by one or more of a genocidal despot. A curiously une jailed plutocrats or an anonymous volts. You capitalists cartel to fans to storm out of the stadium in disgust millionaire news now and Well it's a delight to be joined on this podcast by two billion has In in terms of spiritual wealth if not necessarily financial wealth. but we'll world. I know both of you are kenyatta owners And as a member birthday birthdays a as a child often argue a new york straight on the power with the y'all well. Jeff bezos has what a. I guess i mean this was an amazing story to jeff beatles's new lot because is that that difficulty. What does the man who has everything by for himself. The man who has everything and it turns out the answer is a half billion dollar yorker so big it needs to support. You ought to work properly. Well you get lonely too touch. Come on come on. He's he's recently divorced. Can you really blame him for trying to soothe his heart with a four hundred seventeen foot. Soupy ios among us has not post break up. Invested some of out one hundred and eighty five billion dollars in a luxury ship. The size of a dreadnought fraudster. Escape the stifling reminders of x the boring nation state based constraints of land-based legal jurisdictions on the open ocean from basis point of view A billion dollars to spare and it basically has about trillions of dollars to spur could he. I mean as as buying a yacht with a backup your necessarily the best use of of that money in or could he have spent some of it. For example on improving working conditions and pifer amazon warehouse staff all threaten with loose change into various governments collection buckets also known as paying bit more tax. No no options not of interest to him and they also a noted that be chief executive officer of a superior interior studio said that this yacht khun cruise for nine thousand nautical miles without needing refueling and she said clients can enjoy life at sea for long periods without having to go mix with others. So this is jeff. Bezos is having as close as possible to his own planet until four nine. Exactly it's not far away and well another one of those billionaires who's done the jetta terrific pandemic economically elon. Musk the undisputed willie walker reality last week. He said he was going to pay for moon. Mission using a means by joe crypto currency based around pictures of skeptical looking japanese causing crash and the value of the rival pseudo. Money bitcoin biology. Bitcoin is for the environment. Whilst let us not forget also planning to block to the moon and having also recently given himself the new job title of techno king title coincidentally fought over vigorously by man helen in the ninety s club scene across rubbing center with crayons out. Your abuse official elon. Musk correspondent Usually get worried for mental. I mean look elon. Musk continues his long running winning streak of counterbalancing all of his business ventures with incredibly bad annoying failed attempts to be cool and or funny on twitter or television. He look i this the thing about this the thing about this kind of story where he said that he's going to let people pay for space things with doors coin and then you know that it's his going to send his first mission to mars and it's going to be called doj one. I find a lot of my smarter. Friends struggle with stories like this because they think they must be missing something complicated and that this kind of announcement can't possibly be as stupid and pointless as it sounds but the thing is it is it has dominated. There's no behind the scenes story here. There's no plan is four dimensional chess. There's no chance at all they all at best playing checkers and if it's chickens they're playing against themselves and they keep losing in other billionaires news. Well bill gates it. Turns out loves train sets particular a very big train set. That is the canadian national railway network and the trains. That run on been reported gates owns thirteen billion dollars. Worth of canada's biggest biggest railway Alice your massive fan of Of railways as well as what's What's the point. I mean look okay so this is all coming out as he and melinda gates split their assets of all of the billion as i have more time for bill gates because at least he's close carrying malaria while also Presumably doing something sinister in the background and filling trains with mosquitoes. well look they. They figured out a vaccine to solve malaria. But i'm not going to be pleased with it until they have it. injected by mosquitoes. And then Been i'll be happy. Maybe giving something back. Isn't it striking. But when you are the richest people on earth still all you can think of really to do with. It is by things that go boom boom. It's like a seven year old. Would do if they were. Suddenly a billionaire. Trains big boat go to the moon. Well we'd never truly grow up. As a species. History is testament to that in other billionaires. news Some of the world's leading social media billionaires have come together to launch a new scheme To try to help deal with online hate. Speech and anonymous provocation or online. The the group has launched do speak ill of the dead a new scheme which aims to stop people spewing ball towards other people who are alive now instead only abuse the long dead a spokesman for the for the group center we cannot stop people using our platforms an outlet for their assault verbal brutalities to take responsibility for the consequences of that billions twitter because well traffic traffic. We have businesses to run. But we can't do written towards channelling their hatred towards those who can't be affected by it so we'll be helping are angry uses. Dispense daringly graphic threats towards for example. Women who wore slightly more than averagely revealing togas and third century rome or visceral prejudice against long extinct tribes to do things differently to us in the prehistoric america's or groundless complaints about how the immigrant communities and moved around the world around fifty thousand years. Bc taking jobs in banning us from saying what we want to say we feel. This is the most beneficial way for us to abdicate responsibilities whilst also protecting our users god given right to spew abuse at others so some positive movement in that direction britain news now and last week. We had the state opening of parliament. Where the queen dabbling in her intimate rollers. The nation's visual voice-over artist carry ip the shit out of the government's latest legislative program. And whatever else we lose is a nation helen. We always do ridiculous official ceremonies better than anyone. It's the last thing to go. It's a boxes punch and But this did. I tell if you watched it last week but then the quainton crown. This year I mean i know you love the The the pump ceremony that goes with all british institutions under an a huge fan of the of the monarchy as a symbol that Some people just for being special but she didn't wear she didn't wear a crown suitable headgear. When you're announcing things about voter suppression well. Something caught. it was the crown. Yes trump would be suitable. It was kind of mauve with some stuff on it until mauve as a color symbolizes in. I think that's all the colors. All political parties Mixed up with some yoga. I think but it was this morning. She didn't take the opportunity. Where jimmy hat. As a as a gesture of reconciliation towards scotland with some fight ginger killed. But what you mentioned voters of voter suppression but she's Was highly popular amongst politicians who Nothing shows. They liked that job because they want to keep it by whatever means possible that their plans announced for people to have to show photo. Id at british. Elections is followed a surge in fraudulent voting in one thousand nine hundred which across the general election local and european elections leads to a grand total of four criminal convictions and to police cautions and yet they managed to to to move against this at form of electoral fraud. Well and is much easier to solve problems. That don't really exist swallow. We need your simple wisdom's on the show and for possibly the first in your life you in the former conservative cabinet minister. David davis agree. Eight described the clients as an illiberal solution in shoot of a non existent. Problem is nice to hear a politician speaking truth for once. Well i mean the the queen also got in trouble for spouting the government's plans on social care around the absence of social care and there's nothing more beautiful than watching a woman in her nineties. Sell literally her age mates down the river. Yes she's sick of signing telegrams to people fair enough she doesn't want anyone to survive a boris johnson. The promise that he would do the social care crisis when he became prime minister. Twenty nineteen and it turns out not all of boris jones. Promises can be completely relied upon a management of a full nine words social cat in the queen's speech which had proposals on social care reform will be brought forward. Not nine it. Brevity is the soul of weight. It is also the soul of a government policy that hasn't been properly thought through custard or indeed Written a toll. And i think it showed. How incredibly good. The queen is a job that she managed to say. Those words without such is twitching an eyebrow or saying. I both as a page here. You've missed out a bit. Beause passive noise inspire confidence. Don't they pass the sound stuff. That's in hand. The daily mail even was not impressed and they took some time out from their latest scoops including famous woman walked my walls wearing something to accuse johnson of a breaking his promises to the electorate and john replied but they like that. Look at the election results. So this just by. This is not a problem. It's not so much a sledgehammer to crack not as a sledgehammer to whack a grain of salt on the pub table. Next to where you just eating a bowl of pistachios which obviously didn't cracking in the first place whilst alien bat creatures which are impervious to all weapons of and sledgehammers a drinking all the based straight out of the barrels and shitting on the pool table and finally This week as a quick joke view. How many cybercriminals gangs does it take to take a major pipeline offline and caused massive disruption across the entire usa to want to take the five and a half thousand mile long pipeline. Offline spot panic buying of petrol several states to declare an emergency chute fuel. Prices to a record roy Get a five million dollar ransom. And then attack european division of tech giant sheba and the other to think all which we not. It seems lovingly easy inside. We'll just carry on hacking into the weathering solar democracy but don't ch- alice This story this isn't the that's the pipeline has been covering a five and a half thousand miles of american muslim potent pipelines. In the us. I was taken offline by hackers his indeed criminals and fourteen year. Old hackers around the world is said to be turning their attention from cryptocurrency. Is the big get rich quick scheme slash scam sane and hoping to turn the hands to hacking like it's the nineties again this is the untold story of mad max colonial pipeline. Which is this very long pipeline. Suffered this what. They call a ransom whisk cyberattack which is where they attack you cyber and ask for them is sort of petits particularly being taken personally by the us because they immediately paid the ransom wild president joe biden was signing a new cybercrime executive order before colonial. Just admitted that they didn't trust the president and they didn't trust american cyber defense capabilities that they were willing to pay literally any ransom so You know people may be encouraged to continue to do this kind of thing in the future which is pretty depressing. Hackers afterwards made an announcement on their website which was quite sweet. They said they didn't mean to cause any problems. They just wanted money. Which is the most american approach to morality. I could possibly touching. Isn't it when you wanna thought they might have thought through the implications of taking a pipe pipeline offline than they would kohl's it would there would be implications of it and the the group's dockside modern day robin hood stealing from the rich and giving to themselves and it's our goal is to make money and not create problems for society those those are not mutually exclusive activities of on capitalism. Andy cole's problems for society. Does they had either or choice. Just want to make a dishonest living less. Let them bring just at the end of this week's bugle. Thanks very much for joining us shortly. Play out with some lies about some of premium level voluntary subscribers to join a motor. Join bugle launches script from scheme in any form to give a one or occurring donation to poke dot com and click the donate button. I'm helen plug all your shows if you can keep it to be great. Not the al and only have three one is this one is broncos investigations where we recapping the tv show. Miles of almost completed on is the illusionist. Which i just didn't episode about the origins of sos case you need that. For any reason in this world alicja about this week's goggle this makes gaga is monster. Goggle is james paulie and spittle and alison spittle reviewing the process of looking batteries. Which might be the funniest thing i've ever heard. Certainly heard in a very long time. I highly with mendez upset with the goal. Also last post which comes out monthly used to be daily Than i decided. I would do it in a more reasonable manner and my sort of Ongoing non funny podcast but you can find it all at patriot mccomb slash ls fraser john. I think's headquarters. Should be banned of the machiavellian plotting that goes on in the corporate world seems to happen in firms. Hq's explains john so if you ban them from having a fancy main office weren't concoc- games. I think find a more honest trustworthy. Business landscape will evolve in no time in fact concludes john our band businesses from having more than one room in any single building. They're mostly just showing off in any case. Thomas lee one does if elephants ever regret even. Usually course they've taken is a species. Sure lot of props for being massive the feature in more children's books than the average creature. But i can't help thinking how trunks tusks teeth thing has brought the much unwanted attention whilst being so enormous means. It's harder to make them participate in sport. Horses dogs humans and balls do stephan reading the dolphins sleep with one eye open set about designing an island opening device that will enable humans to do the same. We simply can't get complacent in the evil lucien. Rice says stephan. These fin waggling widow's might spend most of their time digging around in the seats. No discernible porpoise purpose. Sorry but if they've got something we don't. We need to respond also working on a device that enables babies to walk unaided within thirty minutes of birth as well as an obvious weakness in team human as far as i'm concerned charlie. Bret has found that asking for clarification as a highly effective conversational strategy. It makes whomever you're talking to think they're so smart that our incredible ideas beyond the of normal humans says charlie whilst also making it seem that you are genuinely interested and wants to learn more whereas in fact the chances are you simply were listening an abiding time before anyone realizes use zoned out. Five to ten minutes ago to think about sport. Alexandra wilshire is not convinced that umbrellas have much of a future in the age of modern modernity in which most modern people now live. Alexandra explains we simply don't have time to mess around with raleigh's anymore. Reckon within ten years we'll have hats. That can quadruple apas. Hats umbrella social distancing moat and barbecue as demanded by the weather and social situation or controlled by an on yours. Oh someone else's found and finally sheyanne pancake uchi or indeed jeon or perhaps kion pan coochie otsuji on hearing that the queen owns all the swarms in england wonders. What will happen in the extremely unlikely event that her majesty ever policies away. I don't see charles as much of a swan guy to be honest says jam. He seems to prefer trees too. Large an intimately aggressive aquatic birds. So i think he sold them all off if he personally signed their feathers. Were the royal pen. I recommend looking at a couple of grand a swamp and if my estimate of one swan per eight people in the country is correct. We're talking seven billion cueto thereabouts. He would have to spend a lot of time autographing swans but it would be worth it here and if this week's lies goodbye.

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Discover the Most Profitable Skill in the World with Dan Lok

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Discover the Most Profitable Skill in the World with Dan Lok

"Lights that sparked fire nation J. L. D. here with an audio masterclass on discovering the most profitable skill in the world to drop these bombs I brought Dan. Lock on the Mike Dan. started. From nothing in his now a multi millionaire, he got his start with just a handful of high income skills. Now helps others do the same today fire nation we're GONNA talk about. The single most important high income skill that anybody can develop to make a lot of money grow real business, and eventually give back. We'll talk about how to predictably Andrew Lila we turn one dollars into five a new way to make quote unquote Dr Income before noon, and then spend the rest of the doing what it is you want and so much more fire nation as. Soon as we get back from thinking our sponsors fire nation, you're trying to grow your business but the waste based on your calendar says otherwise if you're interested in learning how you can get. Virtual. Assistant to Book You five to ten appointments a day than this free training is for you visit scaling with systems dot com slash cash sign up today scaling with systems. DOT com slash cash looking for a business coach who has helped thousands of entrepreneurs just like you to increase your profitability by an average of one hundred and four percent per year offer less money than it would cost to hire a fulltime minimum wage employees schedule your free consultation today with Klay Clark at thrive time show dot com slash fire thrived time show dot com slash fire. Dan CEO what's up to fire nation and shears. So the interesting about yourself that most people don't know what's a fire nation. Well, wonder things. I. Think People don't know is one of the things on my bucket list is I. WanNa learn how to drift. So. Recently I bought a car which is like manual Sharon. I'm learning how to how drift and I'm I'm planning to make a little you know video series on Youtube actually documenting this whole process I'm not knowing how to drive manual to learn how to drift. So that's something that you'll don't know. Wow. Well, I can't wait to see the instagram slow mo video once you figure that out and you get that Tokyo, drift down. Hopefully. Man We'll please don't because we have more episodes to record on entrepreneurs on fire in the future years just like you have a lot of stuff going on in your world as well and fire nation has I share with me talking about discovering the most profitable skill in the world I mean who doesn't want that skill so Dan Lewis break down brother. What is the single most important high income skill that anyone can develop if this is a big F They WanNa make a lot of money grow real business, and eventually give back it is the ability to persue imprint I call that cooperating now John many years ago when I learned this from my first mental Alan. When he said to me a Dan because at a time I was struggling right. I was in my early twenties ahead just feel many businesses. And when he told me under his wings, he said Dan, I'm GonNa give you one of the most valuable and most popular profitable skews in the world. They'll transform your life. It doesn't matter what you want to do. You want to launch a business. You WanNA generate more income. I'm going to teach this to you I said, what is that is that ought off copulating and I thought Johncock writing I thought he has to do with like copy I thought like, are you gonNA teach me legal patent? Trademark stuff I don't want to be a lawyer. What is this thing is? No is that Dan look around you is that thing that you do think about any single every single product that you WanNa buy whatever you want to buy the clothes debris bran everything that you do. Someone from somewhere created that ran someone wrote a copy something that you see from an infomercial something peaceful men from online from direct mail back in the dates. Everything is copy write these odd the sodden ring makers behind the scenes that actually makes things work a speech. Is Written by Copywriter a movie is written by copywriter. You think about that way, but we see this every day right. So as an entrepreneur thing about like John. The podcast the title. The headline that's coperating emailed. No, it's copy your your show note that's copy write the ad that you run. That's copy the content you create doubts copy right? It's all sales copy and he's one of it's one of those things where is so powerful so profitable but no, one thinks about it we kind of just in and out the ones who into no you know and I know how powerful? In terms of. Business right entrepreneurs on fire. Important copy is to your business. It's everything. It is everything right? So it's like but people don't think about it. People don't don't they don't. They don't pay attention to it and what's interesting it that copywriting one of the biggest mints is they think it has to do with writing. has nothing to do with writing. Isn't that interesting is the biggest myth. I define copywriting as closing in print because you know I think closers, right? It's a former clothing is not. Writing it is about using the power of the written words. To, influence persuade right to communicate your message. He has to do with actually closing and selling. It's not about the writing because if it is about writing than all the highest paid copywriters. Will be from like we'll be the the English teachers from school. They will be the professors, but that's not the case it has to do with understanding what what makes people buy and most don't know why people buy right and understand what what motivates people to take action I always say that is not the thing is the thing that's also thing if you can use your words fire nation to persuade people via copyrighting the world is Your Voice Ter- I love. Dan, how you put those words together copywriting is closing in print think about those words is closing and France at so good and then there's new kind of writing this new kind of writing the business owners are frankly they're desperate for. What is it? Okay. So think about where? Back in days right we're talking. For some of the fire nation you like, what is this like a direct mail? The envelope thing that you get in the mail right? If you have a mailbox, right. So back in the days we have cooperating and we I learned cooperating from from those type of styles right? The traditional old school, right long copy long-form copy all the hype e copy. You know what I mean like you know how to make X. amount of dollars in extra days and like I call them hype copy. And back in the days, you could get away with a lot of that stuff simply because. You don't have a lot of issues but fast forward today if he won advertise on social media you pretty much if it's not facebook, it's not google. Like. Wales you go right? Yes. He can do to podcast but I'm talking about running ads, right? If you WANNA. Skill your traffic you on a scale, your offers you want to put off in front of a lot of people you pretty much like facebook and Google you you gotta work with these guys and this is speaking from experience because we were scaling accompany massively through facebook and like there was some month John we were spending a million dollars a month on. Month right. That's the multiple. Don't make a minute we're spending million. But some big checks and and you might think I'm I'm writing a big check to facebook they should love me right. Problem is now because facebook because of what's happening right that the under scrutiny right? So now facebook. Ads that used to work they don't work anymore. So a lot of a lot of people like if you listen in this fire nation, if you've ever run facebook ads, have you ever been disapproved? Right have you ever had the ads like running suddenly they just disapproved you can run that anymore and you don't even know why you know what happened like. I've got this office converting. It's all know disapprove worse case scenario you've had your account shutdown. Right I've had both. Right. And the more you spend the more with more more strict they are. So. What happens is now you want to scale traffic. You've got see you've got John you've got an offer that works you know you spend a dollar, you're going to get three dollars back right is working so well, you just need to see it, but you can't run it because facebook is not lying along the run it and you. Say Okay. So what do you want from your facebook I want to spend money with you but you don't run yet. What do you want from me? Because nowadays, they won what I call complying lobby I called a scalable copy. Okay. So we need to take the proven principles from the past that is the you know. To abide because we emotions to I logic. We you know the the benefit we have all those things but you didn't the new settles talking about five ten percent difference. This is the difference between you can run S-. To scale your business and not running gets at all doesn't matter how off is right and a lot of business owners entrepreneurs they struggle with this, they don't know they. Set up an account. What wise I met. My my ads are getting disapproved because it's not compliant and he's a thing. FACEBOOK has two compliance policy and all that legal Mumbo jumbo. You don't understand what it means. Like. Can I say this cannot say this now this is. Speaking speaking from. Knox, right. So we idea lot testing I'm like, how can I ask like I would have like a hundred ads that are running and suddenly one day I have fifty percent of them shut down like approved I'm like what the heck is going on more. I haven't at producing so great return, and at the minute I wanted to spend one hundred bucks a day. Suddenly want to spend a thousand bucks a day gets up disapproved. So I got very frustrated. So then I wonder I got to figure this out because the ones that business owners who could figure this out and your competitors. Donor how to do this thing about the edge that you have. Now he's what's here's the million dollar question. Think about how many business owners out there in the middle of covert. Than pivot than the market online, they need a skilled, the business skill, the revenue. How much are they willing to pay? Someone to write what I call. So social media complying right compliance scalable copy not that's where the opportunity is is not just copulating severe specific on cooperating with talking about here fire nation. The answer is priceless. These businesses will go out of business if they can't figure out scalable copy, these businesses will go out of business if they can't figure out compliant copy. So the writers who understand the kind of copywriting that they can navigate the labyrinth of facebook the other social platforms right now those. Are. The winners you can name your price because business owners are desperate for this. But why do even the best writers on the planet Dan Struggle To do this type of writing that we're discussing right now because the school right? Because they learn from de time there's no facebook there's no they don't need to follow these policies so they could literally say, Hey, you know he's a product that you're selling weight loss product. He is how you can lose you know ten pounds in thirty days. You, can make but now facebook no no. No you can't promise that you can say that or certain types of shocking value statement where you can get facebook. How facebook think about stuff they want people to stand platform want advertise advertise on the platform. That's how they make money. Right? Do you understand how they think they don't like some sort of messages. In, let's say in back in the days. like full page newspaper. You can be very sensational about it right on facebook they don't like that they want you to. Tone down your message of it like not as much hype. That's the best way to describe it not much hype lead had been more factual. No crazy promises. No crazy claims now but the problem is if you are an school copywriter, that's all you know. Like the best example I can give you John is this imagine someone who's like a a martial artist a fighter okay. You're fighting on the street like you not a fight suddenly now putting in a ring, you put on those gloves, protective gears, all the weapons that you know you can't elbow not you can't kick I'm sorry, right you can't do this. You can't do that. Well, how do you want me to fight right? That's what facebook gets right. But if you can crack that code when you get championship belt in the boxing ring, that's worth like a lot. And it's It's extreme something that nobody talks about people on us and how valuable is, and it doesn't matter if the business owners that offline going online, I'm talking about anyone that's don't any serious marketing on the Internet like us. Right we influencers big time big time e Com company the all struggle with this you talk to ten of them. Ten of them had right as disapproved and most don't know why and I know why because I was spending money. Alto something John River people people know do know facebook actually has three different tiers of accounts. About you don't know that I did not know that there are three tiers of accounts. So it depends on how much you spend. So you have to spell a castle most advertisers when you start small spending the money to say whatever. Tens of thousands a month tearing. You're like the Tijuana basic when you're spending. ALVA threshold like we're talking millions. Then t to you have a I have a different dedicated account representative. Not a people right and then you have to the highest tier, which is like, Coca Cola and the big companies right? They have different tier he used to think. The more you spend right the more you want to scale the more complying your copy needs to be. So, if I'm a smaller advertiser, I could actually get away with qubit stuff facebook like your small fish but the minute you get into because the ads now putting in front of millions of people, my stuff has to be much more compliant followed their policies. and. Really being like black and white. They're not making crazy promises that that that people who are not driving my the traffic offer that's questionable or a questionable business because that's the last thing they face but once they don't want to give the eyeballs attention to someone that they don't think it's it's worthy of, and that's that's the best way I could describe it right and that's how this works and cooperating. So fascinating. Can I give you just a quick demonstrate? Yeah. Please do. So think about John Thing about. Let's pretend you are a back a huge huge basketball fan. Okay and you are huge Michael. Jordan Fan. Okay. Huge bike withdrawn. Following Michael Longtime Fan. So let's say I say, Hey, John I have a pair of Air Jordan's here. Okay Air Jordans okay. Now, how much would you pay for it? Let's say you you want it. You don't have it. How much would you pay for that? Just kind Of five hundred dollars. Go five hundred bucks. Okay. What if John S it? Okay. Here's a pair of Michael Jordan, but it's autograph authentic by Michael Jordan. Jordan actually sinus. On this pair of shoes. Okay. Now, how much the value has gone up fifteen thousand dollars. End Up what if I said John Assuming all this is true what I'm saying. Jordan sign it and his actually. Awarded once when he was in. A match Jordan wets stauton sweat plus he signed it. How much this is worth. I'm up to thirty six thousand dollars now now, just what if this Air Jordan? Not only he. Sign it. He would he would the LAS match? Before he retired. And this a photo caption an. Obedient like capturing him taking off the shoes the last match before he retired and he autograph it and it's authentic. It's certified by certificate. How much that is worth. Now hundred and fifteen thousand dollars he's a question John. The intrinsic value of that pair of Shoes has not changed now. is still a pair of shoes is the same feature, right but what has changed the story? So, think of what we did here. Suddenly with story I HAVE NOT FIVE X. Not. 10x Not twenty acts not a hut-like. We're talking about a hundred and more of the value of something. That is essentially same intrinsic value. That's why stories. Sale and facts tell, right. And most business owners entrepreneurs, they don't understand at the end of the day people by don't buy products and services by stories. But how often would trained on how to craft stories, how to use stories to create more precisely value how? To be more persuasive and unless you know one of the things that we talked about, but you need to use stories in your copy so that you don't need to lick I don't need to hype it up to say, Hey, this thing is worth a lot by Asus. Did it. He's a story to the right audience assuming a year Jordan Fan. You see value for someone who is not the right audience. They don't see the value and that's fine in marketing. We want to put the right offer in front of the right people, right? That's perfectly fine but that's the power nothing has changed. That's why I said it's not the thing is the thing this else to thing? So DNA have fire nation. Salvator eating right now, and we're about to thank our sponsors but I don't want to go too much further. So take a very short timeframe right now because we're going to talk about this in length at the end of the episode but you have created something very special copywriters on fire dot com, and again, this is just a short little tease right now we're GONNA go into depth at the end of the episode on this. All of this in more is going to be discussed within copywriters on fire DOT com. Tell us more because my paying out of dealing with facebook and I had to figure out. Okay. How do I scale my own companies? My my offers you know my my marketing what do I need to do and I was looking around with like I was studying try to find books on this taboo topic guess what did isn't want All the books it's. Out of date, right they don't talk about they talk about it but no one talks about how did not get my ass disapproved what do I need to do? So because train so many students on the odds of closing right how do you close on the phone and this is a good that I have which is operating in doing it since early twenties my early twenties. So I, put together compress my decades and today's of how do I take proven marketing persuasion principles but apply the into modern days on talk a lot about that on copywriters on fire and it's A free you can attend and at the end of the free training. If you want to get more information, you WANNA, go deep dive into your learn more from your how I do these things and every single thing that I teach is not from a book it's what I do in my own company I like I was showing you he's the ad that run he's the things that works he's a thing that doesn't work and more importantly it's how you can utilize this and actually develop high income skill be able to work remotely generating income and provide for your family Helping businesses right with the copywriting with the email I'll give you a simple example and he's tricked out teach all my student teacher to ninety something I talk about in in the free training by teach this to you right now think about John Lewis say someone who has an email this of? Fifty. Thousand people now, that's a big list. Right joyless much much that much bigger but fifty thousand wouldn't you say that's A. Reasonable these sports we miss more size list. Yeah. So Fifty K., and let's say someone is doing sending emails got few offers sending email to that list and let's say they sent how. Ten emails like. A month. And that's they may NSA degenerate. Ten thousand dollars from that email this. Okay, that's pretty good. But. What if as coppery you go in and you help them does hey, instead of doing one email every three days what if we can? Only, engage your not spamming them, but engage a reader and increase the limit to maybe do a daily email at. The storytelling compelling engaging ema every single day. I saw like off the offers increase the frequency. Now instead third ten emails you're doing email. La Logically speaking assuming the email is interesting. You have the same opening rate. is logical thing you can double triple the revenue company does by increasing the frequency. So if you can have a list of someone who's making, let's say ten, twenty, thirty, thousand a month you can double triple the revenue well, is it? Do you think it's too much to ask if they pay you let's say one hundred bucks per email that you're right right you do you help them to thirty emails? You'll making three k. a month the here's the thing. If you follow like the way, the I teach my system, you can craft an email in less than thirty minutes a day. So I called the half hour workday thirty minutes a day you do one email you do thirty emails. You'll making three thousand dollars a month. Now, those three thousand, a month is not six figure income years. They'll tankeea a month but how many would be happy just like almost like a side hustle on the CY. Three K. a month does that help to pay off the bills does to help to supplement some income it's real money. Yeah. It's good money. Right. So that's what what if you take on you can do more than can you do with more than thirty minutes a day? An hour hour and a half a day on three clients right now you're talking some some serious money, but he's the kicker. What's your overhead? Ball. You need your Internet young computer, but seriously the overhead almost nothing it's nothing and and you are not like building your list. You don't have to create a product. You don't have to drive traffic you don't have. No. You're piggybacking bagging. You're leveraging the business owners, right what they have and you helping them to generate more revenue. That's why I said a teach all my students. We are not in writing business. When a revenue generating business, you help them generate revenue in exchange they're more than happy to pay you. A. Very decent amount of money especially during the crisis right? Because in good times, companies need revenue in bad times. Companies need revenue really need revenue. Revenue so they will not have problems. So you in your in-command because you're in demand, there's a lot. The Dan just said their fire nation debt. I hope you're understanding, digesting and absorbing. Heat is actually shared a specific example that you're going to get on this free training copywriters on fire DOT com. He's not going to be offering this free training forever. So deftly. Head over to COPYWRITERS ON FIRE DOT COM, get this full free training and a certain number of you're going to be like this is exactly what I need, and then some of you and be like this is what I need. Now I want to go deeper I, WANNA go bigger because this is a different world we live fire nation we're living in a world where we don't know what's going to happen next month next year I mean we. Could have total shutdowns in the future multiple times and if and when that stuff happens, guess what you're going to be at home in front of your computer and there's GonNa be ways you can take your knowledge from something like copywriters on fire dot, com, and generate revenue for you for your family and by the way in a safe way, you're not having to go out into the real world if in one that is still dangerous in the. Future and expose yourself attention to these things like you have this opportunity to just be sitting down you and your keyboard in making real revenue. We have so much more coming up fire nation as soon as we back from thanking our sponsors looking for a business coach who has helped thousands of entrepreneurs, just like you to increase their profitability by an average of one hundred and four percent per year all for less money than it would cost A. 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This one weird e mail hack, the exact messaging scripts and channels. They used to easily book four five appointments in your calendar per day the new model of finding hiring intriguing sales reps that have them closing appointments for you in fourteen days, and so much more get ready to learn how you can wake up every day to counter filled with qualified prospects without having to spend thousands of dollars on as complicated funnels. It's all in this free training visit. With systems, dot. COM SLASH CASH to sign up today that's scaling with systems, dot com slash cash. So Dan we're back and you've been sharing just a lot a lot of great information all around copywriting how it's just so important to be able to create scalable copy that's compliant. What business owners are literally desperate for we've talked about copywriters on fire dot com that free training, and we'll talk a little bit more about that in a few minutes here but. You know how to predictably and reliably turn a dollar and the five dollars, and you know how to make a quote unquote doctors income before noon, and then you can spend the rest of the day by the way doing things that you want. So kind of break these things down for us like how can we turn down to five dollars? How can we make doctors income before noon? What are the processes good question thing about John Back in the days like you were talking about in in in this in doing crisis, you know how many years ago we talk about working from home how it's such A. It's such a gift. It's a privilege right now I'd say it's not a luxury to work from home. It's a necessity. Problem. For those who like who don't have the ability that this is just my personal believe you'll have to buy my belief but you know how? Before we always talk about the gap between rich and poor Wall Street versus Main Street I truly believe in the next ten years. Is the was able to work from home remotely have the ability gender income compared to those who don't. That's how I see it because now shifting from the the GIG from the job economy to really work the GIG or Excu economy right that being able to work remotely it's absolute necessity. So to answer your question. So if you're a business owner because you may be thinking well, John Dan, I can hire a copywriter to help. Of course you could. But by having that foundational knowledge, just like myself, I have a huge cooperating team but then when you know Who is good and WHO's not just to have a basic understanding then you don't have to waste money on copywriters that you know they're not good. They cannot bullshit you. Already know what? So even if you're not doing the work is good to know what is good and what is the ability to tell right if you WANNA generate income now there's so many ways to think about. I I should example with you with like email. I'll share. A copywriter real-life copyright example. Okay. This copywriter rights for the Keitel industry like a very niche copywriter and that's why you to do when you get good kind of niche down. Okay. So Has A lot experience. So there's this company, the selling Akito offer. And they've been running traffic traffic and now I'm GONNA get into later be technical hanging there Lebron technical that when you're running offer when you are driving traffic one of the most important metrics you know what I call average Baillieu. Okay. Average cod value. That means for. X.. Amount of buyers you know. Divided. By revenue. Average. Order value that I get. So this say if I haven't caught value of. Fifty Bucks? Fifty dollars and I am running traffic and each customer cost me. Forty five dollars. Okay. That means every sale that I make. I'm losing five bucks you with me right by nation you lose five bucks of that's the case, but if I could get my avocado. Up where for every every every. So if so if I can spending fifty bucks and I'm making fifty bucks. Okay. Now I'm breaking even if I can't be spending fifty I'm making one hundred that's good I'm doubling my money. So you're with me so far. So anyway, this a copywriter. So this company hides copywriter and it's okay I'll average cod value right now it's like thirty two bucks. Thirty Bucks and I want I just want to increase the value of that because otherwise every single sale were losing money I want to get to you like at least break even we're talking very minor so. Highs copywriter and said for every dollar. The landing page offer you can help me to increase. Aristotle Valley I'M GONNA. Pay You twenty thousand dollars. Now, why would someone pay twenty thousand dollars for every dollar increase? Because it allows the offer to scale. You're not into writing business in a revenue generating business. So this this Kiddo, copyright took one full day eight hours. To craft his Co... Some one saw the of work. The Klein runs the offer what's able to bummed the offer. By two dollars average caught value to two dollars and somewhat sense at the end one day of work. This copywriter got pay fifty, two, thousand dollars. Fifty thousand dollars one full day of work. For increasing that cabal now. That's a pretty good payday when you agree that's a pretty good payday but I want you to think about from the client's perspective. Why is he willing to write a check for fifty two thousand dollars for someone to write a page because now guess what he hasn't offered that he'd go and skill McMillan's. Because that was the bottleneck for him. So you're not getting paid by how many words Desta people this a lot of people they think writing charged per word. I'm GONNA give you a big one here. If you all you want to generate high income. As a copywriter don't charge per word, don't charge per patient don't charge per hour. Now right there. Just. It's Mind blowing people. Dan What do you mean? Yeah. Don't charge per don't charge per page don't charge per hour if you want to make low income, that's what you do. You want high income, you watch a retainer. Charge per project or a base pus results. Right now you're you're getting. Revenue share just like a lot of fun builders father who funnel builders funnel is nothing more than copywriters plus do not set a funnel. It's. Good digging charge. By John Knowing, how much these funnel bureaus church a lot a lot and they're worth it. Yeah. Why? Because they generate money they generate revenue. Yes that's the bottom line right. So if they bill a funnel yeah, I paid on fifteen twenty k. but the generates a million, a million shore, right so that's so many opportunities. Really you look at facebook ads you look at agency you look at e Mail you look at Chat Bot a love. Chat. Bot. You look at a landing page you look at like sequence and look at a launch I could go on and on and on. Copy is everywhere, and if we single one of those misses, they need copywriters, they need good copywriters people have got skills people. Like, how social media? How scalable copy work so is huge continuously going to be this huge demand would like you're you're not gonNA replace by. Replaced, by technology because. Robots don't understand emotion. They don't understand how human beings that that one on one connection to human being emotion cannot be replaced by a lifetime. Anyway, fire nation. This is the powerful stuff you get when you're consuming the content from Dan log this guy, the practices, what he preaches the guy this living in the real world putting these practices to real life and he's making real revenue as a result. So let's end strong. We've talked a lot about what copy can do, how can persuade how can scale you know I love that base plus results because then you're actually getting paid off a result, you're going to be giving people fire nation is results. Talk to us about copy writers on Fire Dot Com we've already shared some great details about it. So we need to go into too much death, but just Huila fire nation know why they need to go there for that free trading and what's is waiting for them. So in the training, I, walk you through like the opportunity first of all to give you. A clear understanding how big the industry in how big the opportunity is and how you can actually set up have a business model position yourself in a way that you can ethically prophet from this trend and it's been around a long time but because social media now it just becomes way stronger and what are some of the ways that you can charge money As you can get paid and more specifically talk about complying but he's also has different aspects right in the few other components that that I'm going to share with you as well and I'm also going to teach you how you can make a great living right I'm talking about my students now doing you know anywhere from five hundred or six figure a year income from home. Here's the kicker John with one client. I'm not talking about my model that I teach is not I called it a one climb model I don't teach the motto go to up work free lands size and all that you know try to Pfeiffer, you make ten dollars, twenty dollars, thirty dollars, and then you gotta work with hundreds of clients and you know being exhausted to Nov that try to make. A liberal living? Like that's not what I teach. I teach the one inclined model. How do you pick the right client where to find them? Exactly how do you find him? You close them right and then how do you lock in a deal and you just work with one and you get the voice and you just get paid is a very, very simple. Model like keep things very very simple, and then a win relationship. They want you there because you're generating a lot of revenue for them you want to be there and you don't need a jump around. You don't need a worried about the knicks cake and the Knicks Gig in the next week as a lot of writers struggling writers, they have this you know. Income Roller Coaster, which it's not necessary. If you follow my methodology, just focus on one right and how you deliver enough value like John Let me ask you a question if there's a copywriter writing copy for you bringing you. Right let's say a million, a million, half a union revenue. Would you be comfortable which be okay. Paying that pace person as a tank. At least because listen I want this person to be sharing on my success, I want them to be fired up about growing this business even more only give them me percentage of that and I don't want them going anywhere else. That's it. Right and you know this person gets you boys, right. You know this person saves you time in any kind of promotion in new product launch at you do you can bring storm and right there, and so he this person is she participates in your success, right? It's very much working. Together like a little partnership and that's the power. So that's why I saw it above writing right and every like successful business owner entrepreneur wants stat. They need that right John Wants to stay in his zola genius connecting asking questions being the best interviewer John You want to be stuck writing, copy all the time absolutely not brother but sometimes you have to, you have to rise on the copy because that's why you need to do. But if you have a choice like no I, loved to have someone helping happy meal name. Written content you need think about your blog thing. Give you some examples. Much writing right now in the business you have email I mean think about I've got e mails going out for every single episode that's three days per week I've got emails going out on off days for other things that I'm doing other promotions. and. Then we have the show knows pages themselves. We have to write a copy for our sales pages that were coming up with all joint ventures that were doing I'm having. All emails like this. So it's endless. It really is endless endless. So that's why said when you know how to fine identify and closed at client you just need one I don't need like thirty, fifty, hundred of these pfeiffer five, ten dollars client just need one John Right and and a lot of entrepreneurs out there that they need. That is so many of them and then mixture like very simple. So that's that's the business model and that's what I teach. At copywriters on five dot com copywriters. On Fire Dot. com I hope that this one lives episodes fire nation you go back and you listen to a a number of times because Dan dropped. So many value bombs, I. Hope you do take the action that we're giving you for this completely free training copywriters on fire DOT com go sign up for you will not regret it and plus guess what you're. Going to get by the way like when you sign up for something like this, you're GonNa get Dan's copy his email sequences, his sales letter you're going to be able to learn and funnel hack and copy hack from Dan who makes millions and millions of dollars in who spends millions and millions of dollars like this is unbelievably prices information fire nation. So Dan Brother. Thanks once again for coming back because fire. Nation knows they're the average of the five people they spend the most time with and they've been hanging out with de L. in J.. L. D. so keep that heats and Dan once again, brother thank you for your generosity for your authenticity for your transparency for that, we salute you and we'll catch you on the flip side. Thank you unless your copy on fire. Hey fire nation today's value bomb content. was brought to you by Dan and hey, successful entrepreneurs they accomplish big goals. That's why I created the freedom. Journal. 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"The old adage done. You'll get what you've got. We cannot continue to do what we have done over the last number of weeks many of us understandably developed little cabin fever some. I would argue developed amnesia. Others have just frankly taken down their guard. And i understand that. Do you was discussing it at an early dinner. Not that that matters. So that's the governor of california who's in the midst of a recall threat so that hasn't happened yet right not enough signatures yet and i know the deadline is the middle of march. And what's amazing. Is i've lived through one of these already. When arnold schwarzenegger ended up the governor of california they recalled their dole. Dull governor at the time but morell works so if if the recall. Is there a vote to recall. And then you're out and then you have an election to see his governor or do you run again. How does it work. I think if we could ask kevin faulkner who is the mayor of san diego among other positions through his career until recently turned out in his announced that he is going to run for governor. Indeed if gavin newsom is recalled. Kevin joins us. Now how are you sir gentlemen. Great to be back with you. I'm doing great. Thank you cool so refresh. Our memories is there. I the recall vote. Yeah i think we are going to be in a recall. A situation you you correctly pointed out that the the deadline here in california is the middle of march to get about one point five million signatures I believe that is going to happen because of the anger and frustration towards our existing governor. That's across the spectrum absolute idiot but then if that's successful is the election for who takes his place like the next day you're a month later i don't remember. Now that's right. It's on the same ballots off. Shell the governor be recalled and then the list of candidates below so it all goes together and then. When would that probably happened. Guess everybody's best guest is sometime In the late summer or fall so we both live in california. It is in many ways astoundingly beautiful and interesting slice of planet earth and has a history full of all inspiring innovation creativity and energy on the other hand. Most of that's gone in. It's a bit of a crappy ways. How screwed up. Do you think california's we're headed in the wrong direction. And i've been very vocal about that And particularly over the last several years. And you know as. I announced that it's time. For a comeback in california and to take on you know the failed status quo that the newsom represents and it's across the board and and you know glad you've been talking about schools not reopened in california because look they're opening safely across this country and other states. Private schools are open in california and yet our kids are getting put farther and farther behind because our schools haven't safely reopen. It's time to open our schools now not a week from now or a year from now And all the other issues that you know folks are really just at their wits end in california. Homelessness are jobs that are leaving to states. You know public safety. I did not defunding the police as mayor of san diego. I increase the budget. Because guess what we want safe neighborhoods and it works. I remember it was last year in the bay areas. Where i i thought saw the stat over half. The people were considering moving in the next year. And i wondered if that's ever happened in human history anywhere in the planet. Any era where half the people were considering leaving in the next year. It's just amazing. It's amazing and it's real unfortunately and and look. We're you know our love. Our great state where we ought to natural beauty some of the best entrepreneurs right and you know the the california dream is still there but to see so many folks jobs companies families that you know can't stay because they're gonna get taxed out of existence. That's what i'm talking about. That's that's the type of change that we need to make it. You cannot repeat you cannot take california companies for granted because guess what they have a choice to locate to other states. How about governor. That says we want your jobs here. How about a governor. That says it's important for us to grow our economy and not take it for granted. So kevin is a pretty moderate republican. That's the way i would describe you. Are you going to run with our next year. Name or independent or does it matter. Yeah i don't think it matters and look. I am a republican. I'm prop republican whose one and a majority democratic city in san diego. And do all the things that i'm proud of the only big city in california where we reduced homelessness the last two years by double digits. Why because as we've talked about in the past. I allow tents on our sidewalk. I think that you know condemns folks to die on your sidewalk. We're better than that. And so look. I think what california's what they're less interested in in partisanship to your point. I think they want somebody who's gonna roll up their sleeves and get the job done. And i don't care if you're republican democrat or independent. It's let's turn the state around. Let's let's get us back on track so get enough signatures on the ballot and then it's officially okay. We're gonna have a recall election schedule. the election. the people that are officially running. Will you all had debate each other. I i think that'll probably be the case but i think he also mentioned in a recall situation. We are likely to have that's right. I don't remember the candidates. Remember arnold schwarzenegger debating. What's her name from moran huff po. Remember her arianna huffington. And then Gary coleman stars. Oh yeah okay. We got that to look temple. There was a few candidates kevin faulkners online. He was the mayor of san diego until fairly recently. And he's running to be the new governor california Would you like to say anything about the other. Two major candidates who've announced johncock search mouth. paul appetite. no look. I think we're going to have a lot of folks jump in but i do think Californians have seen as a lack of competence. And they're looking for somebody who run a major american city got results like we did in san diego and the type of person that could say again i. I want republicans democrats to say. Let's put are the best interest of our state forward and actually not be afraid to make decisions and to get things done and so you know all of these all of these issues that we care so deeply about the. They're just they're not going the right way in california and you know i have some success of bringing some folks together and as i said getting results. Wouldn't that be something. Well here's a rubber meets. The road issue for you and california's role out of the vaccine has been awful. But as i m a fair man. I will point out. It's been awful around the globe. Any thoughts on how to streamline it get it get shots in arms. Well that's exactly it and you know the fact that we are the most innovative state. I'm a little biased. Obviously in the country But the fact that we were so woefully unprepared for the vaccines when they came out. And so you know one of the biggest things. Why you've seen that that. That real anger in california is because we continue to have not just the conflicting kovic rules with open and close and businesses with no science behind it but the fact that we were one of the worst states in the country the worst in the country of a roll out because we did not have the planning the preparation and the logistics. We all have the same goal. Let's get those needles and everybody's arm but the fact that it was so slow in california bureaucracy. It's just unacceptable to quote the cliff. We played from old gavin Quit doing the same thing. Or you're going to get the same result former san diego mayor. Kevin faulkner run for governor the most populous state in the union. I'm sure we'll have more chances to talk. Kevin good to talk. Thanks john. I had come somehow. I blinked that out of my mind so when california had the recall election. And i don't know how much would arnold running drove the craziness and made it feel more like. I guess anybody can be involved. That definitely added to the circus atmosphere but ours arianna huffington who was like nowhere in the polls and never had a shot but she was so loud. yeah or celebrity. She kind of like got a lot of attention and they had to carry top five in the polls have debated or something like that. And you had gary coleman right luzon's past the yes so he can't run for governor no The porn girl is probably not doing for joe biden. Good ni o. A dead guy. I guess yeah good. Oh yes so. It will be a zoo in all probability on the other hand. There's a lot at stake. Let's say kevin's running for office. So he's got to be positive about you. Know the state. He's running for a get that but we're the leader in innovation. Texas is sitting back ten gallon hat cigar in mouth. Saint suri are pair comes another corporation blowy believe louis. I assume everybody in texas behaves that. Play that one chihuahua. this is another guy. That's running for governor. With his little report card eighteen eighteen again in terms of quality of life highest homelessness in the country. Worst graduation rate in the country around seventeen percent of students in california don't graduate the worst slash highest cost of living in the country and the worst wildfires in the country. One point eight million plus acres burn other than that looking pretty good and just complete. Utter nonsense gabby gave away creepy. Creepy gavin newsom pal taya. Who's a sri lankan american venture capitalist engineer politician and the founder and ceo of social capital. He's also a part-time food reviewer reviewing The french laundry restaurant. That gavin newsom dined in during a late dinner and we Yeah we had an early dinner. Never mind then. It's okay so here's your math reviewing the food that you might get it such such a place. Anybody who wants. Who's listening to this. Who wants to go to the french laundry. Stay at home. Poor a bunch of salt on whatever you're gonna eat melted stick of butter in the stick of butter. The microwave drink it and then basically take fifteen hundred dollars. Played it on fire to the trash can trash actually other nonsense. That's great while. Wow you know. I'm reading about Shimon champ e He said in the past in in two thousand seventeen that for ethical reasons he regretted helping facebook become the largest social media platform. He said the short-term dopamine driven feedback loops that we've created or destroying our society works no civil discourse. No collaboration misinformation mr truth. And it's not an american problem. This is not about russian ads. This is a global problem. It's eroding the core foundations of how people behave by in between each other interesting guy. Yeah i'd say so that's faulkner. John cox is also running. We talked to him back in the day. I don't find him very and he'd more former celebrities in this. That's what my history of recalls in the state of tommy. Yeah exactly more former celebrities. More delays and liberties elon. Musk got another rocket going. And which has got another phony name among other things about child. Which team are your favorite celebrities rooting for the super bowl. Who doesn't want that list. What the new spokesman for the state department has got a heck of an interesting social media pass to tell. Yeah it quite a story so they do look for all that The armstrong and getty show absence basis will be turning over the reins for the company's longtime cloud computing boss and jesse. Now i know nothing about jesse other than his last name rhymes with sassy sassy jassat sounds. Good to me as i names andy. So he's ran the and as what the what the person that's run amazon now that Jeff bezos to stepped down which. I don't know if that means anything anybody. But to the point it's notable that the the guy who was in charge of the amazon web services kind of their their computing side of things. Is the guy put in charge. Right we we think of amazon is the place that sends me my toilet paper on on schedule. It's practically amazon's hobby that package stuff that they're known for with their gigantic distribution centers compared to the prophet there cloud computing and iot arms lately. Unaware of ways does this is all completely new news to me. Just reaffirming how little. I know about anything. the biden's state department spokesman jelena's porter. Who's the secretary of state. Now abe lincoln. Did you just use the first. Initial of anthony blinken on twitter. He goes by a blinken. Abe lincoln is on twitter. And i feel like we need to let people know that might be misleading people in subtle way. In what way all right. Abe lincoln showed me. The lie as lincoln is on twitter. So the spokesman follow for a lincoln. Yes i gave you her name. I won't give it to you again. Because i'd have to scroll up anyway. She had tweeted a couple years back. Twenty fifteen twenty sixteen. I'm sorry. Facebook post the largest threat to us. National security are us cops. She said in her facebook post. Not isis not rushing hackers. Not anyone or anything else. If don't wake up and rise up to this truth. The genocide against blacks in america will continue until we are near extinct. Okay so that's every bit as crazy as old marjorie taylor grain absa freakin lutely. I mean it's from the same playbook absent freaking lutely but one everybody's talking about you. You mentioned off the air. The i saw this yesterday a list of news outlets that lead with marjorie taylor green. She's the republican congresswoman who's Cunanan insist crazy stuff. Yeah lead with meeting. That was their number one story. Yeah like every cable show. That's not on fox. Every show on cnn msnbc lead with new york times a website washingtonpost website. There are several others. Just everybody lead with her mouth. As if she's the number one story in america minnesota pretty out there stuff from the state department spokesman. Yeah yeah that's a crazy person that's a militant a radical. You sure certainly out of mainstream conversation. Yeah unbelievable Where your favorite celebrities rooting for in the super bowl. No no no no no time for crap like that. Brad pitt grew up in missouri. So he's rooting for the kansas city. Chiefs don't care. I didn't. That's that's fascinating. I think what happens with sports teams a lot. I've done this myself is if you can come up with any tangential reason that you could possibly root for the team at the drove by that stadium. Once you do yeah. My roommate in college were from from their whatever. Yeah was brad pitt. Chief's fan before patrick. Mahomes Care by the way. I'm pro bandwagon. I say why root for a bad team wait till team is good and root for him if they turned ban. Stop rooting for your fake fan. What my support. Try winning rooting for a bad team. Seems like a complete waste like ruining for bad tv. Show all the stars left the plots dumb but watching it because it's my tv show going into a diner and every day you order an omelette and they just put a rusty nail in there because you to be restaurant but understand. They got a new cook understand. Keep go to that restaurant. Because you're loyal because i grew up here because it's a process. Winning is a process. Got a stick with them. They you have to stick with them better players if they decide the teams no longer too good they go to a different town now. So you're essentially just rooting for his shirt. Essentially yes yeah. The chiefs exciting bunch of shirts. These days i predict they win by thirteen up. Ignoring the armstrong and getty rule any sports production. You must bet one of your fingers. Barbaric sports predictions so easy and everybody makes some. Nobody's ever held to account you make sports prediction. You're wrong you lose a finger which finger that's up to. You even be a tow. It's gotta be a finger. I think a thumb go thambo cheese. No an ape. What separates you from the beasts. Only for the super bowl super bowl or the world series. Those are thumb events. Getty the demand for telemedicine grows so does the need for collectively five g meets. that need. qualcomm remains focused on giving doctors and patients superior security rich five g. Connectivity learn more at qualcomm dot com slash invention age armstrong and getty show. We haven't talked about immigration. Really longtime interesting hot hot topic. It kind of comes and goes usually some some brings it on Then it's the hottest topic in america for a couple of weeks. Then it goes away again and nothing get solved. I think it's combined with immigration downturn combined with the trump administration just had firm policy so people didn't like claiming to be refugee anymore. It worked pretty effectively right so just wasn't much of a topic but President biden signed three executive orders. A lot of it overturning stuff. That trump did yesterday and It was poorly written. He signed the executive orders yesterday. Trump didn't do them yesterday And the immigration topic is back and i was just doing a little research for the segment. Talk about it and i realized why so tired about it. The last time. I talked about illegal immigrants in. Yeah illegal immigration. That's what i'm mostly interested in. That's what most people are interested in in terms of trying to stop but just trying to do the research to talk about this. I couldn't find anything where they didn't blur. The lines constantly between legal and illegal immigration to make their point how immigration helps our nation of a majority of americans think immigration helps the country. Yes yes we do. I do to how many people think illegal immigration helps the country not very many at all. No no utopians activists. Have you heard. Joe biden talking about illegal immigration. And how you're gonna stop it from happening and we have somewhere around twenty million illegal immigrants in this country. What kind of what. Kind of way is to run a country. that's crazy. How many people have come in just however many decide to come we have no policy whatsoever just whoever decides to come right and what skill level and what what skills they're gonna bring doesn't matter what anybody from anywhere just however many wants to come find dangerous criminals you're racist that's obviously a stupid policy. Oh yeah and then immediately if you start to get in any pushback on and you get into the or racist conversation. No wonder we stopped talking about it. It's so tiring realities. So i haven't heard anything in the last couple of days while the left-wing media biden. Finally we're back to carrying about immigration in the bring us you're tired and hungry masses or whatever all itself is okay. What are you gonna do about illegal immigration. We're not bringing the wall. We're not building the wall anymore. The stupid stupid wall. Are you gonna do anything about the flow of illegal immigration. Our policy still going to be whoever just wants to come here comes here and if your school ends up being half spanish. Speaking teachers can't deal with it and you can't teach kids and it just randomly happened. It's no policy government policy. No one voted on and nobody discussed. It just happened that still okay. No it's ridiculous absolutely ridiculous way to run a country well said yup it's indefensible is strategy. It's not a strategy senior administration official said. President trump was so focused on the wall. He did nothing to address. The root causes of wire people coming to our southern border. You know if you wanted to make broad foreign policy argument that we ought to help out central america somehow so it's not as violent and poor and disease ridden and so many people want to come to our country. We can discuss that. When that's a thorny four hundred level college discussion though and to be crazy expensive no matter what you do on how much tax money i should pay to make sure that various south american countries have a better government right. That honduras is a nice place to live but so again i'm willing to have the discussion but it is complicated and expensive to make a statement that implies. It's obviously what we need to do is crazy so let me let me finish the statement. President trump is so focused on the wall. He did nothing to address. The root causes of. Why are people coming to our southern border. It was a limited wasteful and naive strategy and it failed. People continue to migrate to the united states. Even today because of it. President biden's approaches to deal with immigration comprehensibly fairly and humanely. That is a word salad. People continued coming to the southern border because of the border wall and tin continue because of trump's terrible strategy. That's a bizarre thing to say. It's because they live in crappy places they wanna live in a better place they maybe want freedom and the rule of law or just better you know economic opportunities and then i will do the same thing. I have no problem with that but to act like trump created that. That's just bizarre and like npr this morning saying in the trump administration which forced asylum seekers to wait in mexico as if that was just unthinkable. Now you can't come in until we approve your application. You're supposed to apply at your local embassy. What part of that do not understand. Why do know the answer. The republicans don't want to solve it because they'd rather argue about it and raise money off of it. It's it's such a failure of our government. It's not hard and it can be as humane and fair. Is we want it to be you. Get together both parties. You study at demographics economics. All kinds of different things. How many people do you want from where with what skills pick a number and then allow that to happen and no more heck take six months and you could get ninety percent of america. Sign off on what i just said. Jeff let's remind ourselves. How does the refugee thing work. Okay if you have to apply locally and somebody doesn't apply locally they'll get in simple as that how many people from where with what skills do we want. Can't we have that conversation. No come to a a number terminent. Just allow that are we just gonna continue allow whoever whoever's thinks gets in the way we'll do it. Yeah crazy. Quick word from our friends at carshield chilly time a year. And that's when a lot of car breakdowns happen. Thanks to carshield. You can have maximum safety on the road for low month-on-month cost they also protect you from expensive car repairs. In fact plants from carshield can save you thousands for a covered repair. I think this gives you an idea of how popular it is or how much people like carshield over. A million drivers have been helped. It's america's number one auto protection company at this point that means it's good and you should look into it and whether he got you know you're just barely over your warranty when you when you bought your car away over your warranty get rid of the worry when you sign up with carshield. You can take your car to your favorite mechanic or dealership to do the work. Carshield deals with the rest call. 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There's a limit to the number of people how many's enough a million i'm ten million per billion about five billion people coming into the united states without any sort of paperwork are you okay with five billion when l. Too many talk about the number. Let's pick a number then right and you also have to and then this is a beautiful example of the way economics really works. When you pervert. A market for instance. I will do that job. And that job but i will not do that job and those first two jobs aren't available the third one is but i will not take that job and i will take taxpayer money instead. That's how you get to the point. Where unlike past generations americans aren't doing farm labor and so we have to import people to get the crops. Pick any farmer will tell you that you can't hire american's number one. It's too expensive Number two they don't do the work so why don't we have a temporary visa program if we agree in you know getting back to the beginning what i was saying. Maybe we're not all going to agree that we need to import people but if we agree yeah we'd probably do establish a number. It's not that hard but again both parties. They don't want the solution. They want the issue so as watching. Cool hand luke. The other night on netflix nice between that and rocky cohen. Luther do an egg thing. In that right you're on a real Eg eating movie classic kick here. I may have run out of them may have run out of classic movies. Where the eggs but multiple eggs with rocky with rocking. Who look if anybody can come up with one more classic movie where they eat multiple eggs an omelette but eg eaten is a is a plot point. Oh yeah yeah yeah. Yeah i'd have to think long and hard about that ain't no man can eat fifty eggs i can. How long our says the great paul newman. He so good in that movie anyway. The reason i bring it up is a lot of the movies centered on prison. These guys committed various crimes and they ended up in prison and they're out on a chain gang and their Their in ditches whacking down weeds with the stick. And that's what they're doing. And i just thought it's amazing how far we've gone from when we we would have prisoners. Do that sort of thing and just thought that was you know unconscionably bad to make them do manual labor. That other people were willing to do to make a living right. You could make somebody who committed a crime. Do it right now. Prisoners won't do it and we won't even make we won't even make somebody do. It was like an able bodied person who needs a job and they'd get paid for it. They won't do it. We'll bring in somebody. Let somebody illegally come from another country and the taxpayers will pay the person that doesn't want to knock down weeds in the ditch to to look for a job that would fulfil the dreams because it would just be too awful to make them do that and the taxpayers will also pay for all of the social programs and the schooling in the medication etc. For those folks. We've imported under the table to do the week. It's amazing it is a society can change that much. F- f little perverse. Oh speaking of that sort of thing. Inmates oregon or a gun crazy. It's just announced. Who's going to get the vaccine. I i'm gonna call my lawyer. I'm a ghana ghana is going to. I love this guy that just because it's so charming so good all right. So let's see oregon vaccines. Oh good looking. Teenagers are more likely to break the law. What stay with us Armstrong and getty show. I'm gonna call my lawyer form of. It's yes i'm gonna call my lawyer gun. I'm gonna call my lawyer gun. I'm going to Cute little russian teen explaining how to get out of the clutches of putin secret police who might end up doing hard labor like cool hand luke somewhere in siberia like old nevada likes of only sentenced to two and a half years plus the years already served plus a bonus poisoning. Oh my god. They'll be he sa- isn't he. Being sent to a labor camp. I think so. Yeah so i don't know how old he is. He's like my age a little old to be doing hard labor. A soviet style labor camp fail work. Beat and starve them. Death pitchers well that that's the other thing. He's got to be concerned at any moment that somebody's gonna he hit him in the back of the head with a club and say i you know how prisons shovel slipped. Yeah or just paint a little Polonium six on her appalachia six or whatever was dang. That's a main. You wouldn't think that could happen in the twenty first century and i know well totalitarianism. It never goes away. It's constant in human history To this very day as his slavery notably enough Who can forget the wranglings in oregon over who should get the vaccine. I in the endless meetings were. They decided nothing. But all came off is super woke. My word for today is Decolonization my word would be pensive. In for me the word today would be. I think somebody compassion and also trust. Nobody's rows for the day was already blanking kidding me. Yeah how about get this done. How about get shots in arms. Well as america's wacky est state Works to get available. Covid nineteen vaccine shots into the arms of oregonians as quickly as possible. A new group of people has become immediately eligible for the vaccine inmates. A federal judge on tuesday ordered the state to offer all inmates in state. Correctional facilities of covid nineteen vaccine. They are in the states phase. One a group which is currently eligible to get the vaccine. They say twenty five percent of the inmates in oregon. The state prisons have tested positive for the one of the interesting things about oregon. You got the crazy crazy. Lefty politics my word of the day is decolonization. Got all that stuff. And then the republican party in oregon put out a statement. Was it last week. That the january sixth insurrection at the capitol was a false flag operation. Actually done by mtpa. The republican party put that out as a statement. Oh boy oh boy not helpful and in a related story. Barely good-looking. Teenagers are more likely to break. The law says a study. Let's make sense. Scientists having watched lots of disney movies went into the study thinking. No ugly people are the bad guys. Reacher researchers have found that the phenomenon of the hot felon is grounded in fact after a four year. Study of american adolescence. Why would it be more likely though. Used to get away with stuff. You can charm your way out of thing. That's part of it more than hundred high school students. Between twelve and sixteen were asked to rate their attractiveness. Those who gave themselves a high score were later on the You write your own attractiveness which we've talked about before we're like seventy seventy five percent of people think they're above average yes which doesn't work mathematically. Yeah you might be above the medium. It's possible that there's a small group of people who are so homely they you know drag the medium. Well no. I don't know that was opposite as opposite i got the math room anyway. of of of the those who gave themselves a high school found one really unfortunate. Looking person doesn't count for five. No other people how which mexican underway average and median. I just got back. I mean bill gates walk into this room. The average net worth is you know ten billion dollars sweet. But the median net worth is significantly less. Oh so those who gave themselves a high score on attractiveness were found to be significantly more likely to get involved in drug dealing vandalism or shoplifting. Researchers from bowling green state university in ohio predicted had predicted that people will consider themselves ugly would have low had lower self esteem and scored highest is troublemakers. Again having watched disney movies. If you are pretty your good. How want to drill down on this. It might have as much to do with the sort of person that would sign a test. I'm above average looking. Now some people would legitimately be above average looking. And they're just you know self aware enough and and not What is that called where you're being fake. What's the term when you're being fake. No you're you're you're you're you're you're pretending i like the guy. I'm not a very modest. Yes not false modesty you get. I am above our dog. I got another sunny but there would be a crowd there. That's not above average looking. That thinks they are. That might be your criminal right there. That is probably true. What they did terminal bad boy streak. That makes more attractive. What they determined was the attractive attract larger groups of friends applying more peer pressure Keep in mind. We're talking about twelve to sixteen interesting. We've hypothesize it has to do with popularity in friendships. Most types of offending behaviours are committed in groups so it's likely outcome of the fact that being pretty equals more friends than social connections which in turn results more opportunities for fending. Well that's interesting you know versus like here. Kind of a loner don't fit in. Don't have any friends which you'd think might turn you wanna rebel against society or in some ways but not the crimes they studied there is however Some upside in being a good looking criminal previous studies have found the judge moore in the in the pen. No they've found. That judges are more lenient when sentencing attractive defendants than ugly one. That doesn't surprise me that and that's the well we've talked about it. A lot with the governor of california. That's just a study after study of showing that you know it intuitively from your own life. You make assumptions about attractive people that they're more competent just all the way around and they might eventually undo that assumption but you assume they're competent. It takes a long time to figure out a good a really good looking guy or really good looking woman is a dope takes a long time for your brain to like comprehend. That the can't be the will dress. The aren't how hot they are spend enough time with really well. They are just not that smart and we. We had an early dinner but the dog apologized to dogs. Oh exactly yeah. Oh we didn't get to the the case of the serial sperm donor boy. That's a good one. I'm it's gone crazy in the netherlands where this took place they think this guy might have hundreds like four five six hundred children and one of a were really hit home to me is on dating sites. People keep running into their f- their half siblings. Boy that's not good. Yeah this one gal like two three times. The nether regions in the netherlands at sound at skillful among others. Strong and getty.

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December 17: Long time coming

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December 17: Long time coming

"I'm justin link host of the village from cbc podcasts for years men were vanishing from toronto's gay village the community had always suspected a serial killer. And in the end they were right called a podcast that transcends true crime by the new yorker and recommended by the atlantic and esquire. Find the village on. Cbc listen or wherever you get your podcasts. This is podcast. hello. I'm carol and. I'm chris boden this as it happens. The podcast edition tonight longtime coming thirty two years. After the lockerbie bombing american authorities are poised to lay new charges against the libyan bomb expert. We hear from the widow of one of the dozens of americans killed on that flight. Where there's a chill. There's a way an ontario ice cream maker teams up with a local health unit to store. The pfizer biontech vaccine which has to be kept at minus seventy degrees celsius pushed a lot of people's buttons. And now you can push the one button that will bring down president. Trump's former casino in atlantic city. If you're willing to pay the price for a good cause news you can't use but you don't care a p. i write a releases. His annual newsmakers of the year list which includes such stop the presses headlines as man grows humongous beat and dog on roof after the laces our annual airing of w o mitchell's classic tale about a young boy into scott who dreams of getting skates. Christmas only defined. His parents have gotten off on the wrong foot. And to the last droppings new research reveals that pandas enjoy nothing more than meticulously covering themselves in fresh force manure and then it's smooth soiling from there on out as it happens the thursday edition radio that accuses them of mounting a smear campaign. Talk for thirty. Two years victoria cummock has been looking for answers about her husband's death. Johncock was one of the two hundred and seventy people who were killed in the bombing of pan am flight one o. Three over lockerbie scotland. That was in one thousand. Nine hundred eighty eight and the families of the victims still do not have satisfying answers about who was responsible for the terrorist attack. Now the us justice department is expected to lay charges against libyan bomb expert named abu. A gillum suit accusing him of completing the device that blew up the plane the new york times and the wall street journal report. The charges will be unsealed in the coming days. We reached victoria. Cummock in miami florida story. I know it will be thirty two years on monday since your husband was killed on. That flight does a day. Go by you. Don't think of him and that day in nineteen ninety eight. There isn't a day that goes by that. I don't think about john or fellow. Passengers and everyone that died tragically on december twenty first nineteen eighty eight. And now you've heard from. Us attorney general william bars office. He's contacted you. They say charges are coming against the alleged bombmaker. How do you feel about the prospect of those charges. I think for nearly thirty two years. The families of the american victims have been waiting for the us state department and the department of justice to take lead in the investigation and prosecution of of all the co conspirators and and suspects in this case. We all know that. I'll megrahi did not act alone and clearly with the scope of an operation like this. There were many other people involved. But it's been twenty nine years since the last indictments came out from our department of justice and we're hopeful that there's been some some movement in the case although we are suspect because the us doesn't have extradition with libya people a summation of some of the background. You say the indictment thrift documents nineteen ninety-one and that was abdelbaset al megrahi and another man. Mr fema was acquitted. But mr el-megrahi served on the part of his sentence. You've always believed that there were accomplices to this crime. What have you seen. What what you know about. All these years and what efforts that were made to find out there was accomplices. Well frankly it seems that After the trial that concluded with mcgraw he's conviction in two thousand and one and livia paid restitution to the family members. We really saw the case had gone totally cold. Our annual meetings with the department of justice where basically photo ops and condolences and visiting the arlington memorial. It wasn't until family. Member and investigative journalists can dorn steam travel to libya in two thousand eleven and two thousand and twelve and started to conduct interviews and found documents and really helped identify and locate the key suspects including my suit that the case was really brought back at least in the forefront and at that point in time we saw a great you know he's got something substantive and that's tangible and then again there was nothing. There was utter silence attorney. General bar was the Keynote speaker at last year's arlington annual anniversary and he really made no mention of of any movement five years ago. Th ken dorn stein you mentioned. His documentary is called my brother's bomber because his brother david died on that flight and him. He has pursued the story. He five years ago as you say he revealed that. Why do you think it's only now that the us authorities are bringing charges against mr messaed. You know. I don't know i just remember My conversation with group At the department of justice including loretta lynch and basically i remember one of the fbi agents there had said well you know right now. It's really libya's a really very dangerous place For investigators to go and i laughed. Because i said here's his jewish american boy who has traveled in and out of libya numerous times in twenty eleven. Twenty twelve to conduct interviews and le'veon's are not friendly at all to anyone. That's that's jewish. And i said and if he didn't find it too dangerous. Fbi agents you know the best thing. Investigative group supposedly on the planet would find libya too difficult to go. I said you know we know that the cia is in and livia anyway. So i'm sure that you know if there was a will they could've gone in there and you know for me for the families. It's been very distressing to see you know after nine. Eleven the pursuit of been loud and al-qaeda and our government's search that would really leave no stone unturned. And you know sadly that has not been the case for this terrorist attack against america. Nineteen eighty eight. I'm thinking that that maybe attorney general bar. Who wanted to book end his career. At at the department of justice you know since he was a part of the original indictments in nineteen ninety. One of female megrahi And he is just days away from leaving office thought that he would bring forth some indictment so he could That he was a part of progress of the case although indictments and convictions we know are are not one in the same. But does it matter. What the motivation. And mr bar is or the circumstances if it finally means that somebody might be brought to book for making that bomb. Oh absolutely not. I think to finally have the will of this country and the department of justice to pursue someone after after all these years. This is the first step to justice. You have been doing this for thirty two years pursuing justice. And i know you've been dozens of congressional committees you've vice presidents about aviation safety. You have met mr gadhafi. You've done anything could do. What keeps you pushing for these answers about what happened that day. I think we all would We all like to my husband. We owe it to Everyone that died because we really need to find out the truth about what happened. In order to hold those accountable and without accountability there is no justice and ultimately the worst thing is is without justice there is no deterrence. The toy. I know that you're looking toward that anniversary on monday. And so i appreciate that. She'd speak with us today. Thank you. I appreciate your interest. Thank you so much victoria come husband. John died in the bombing of pan. Am flight one. oh three. She was in miami president donald trump's hopes of a second term in the white house have gone co boom and so one of his former casinos in atlantic city. Next year for good cause the city is auctioning off the opportunity to press the button to implode the building. Marty small senior is the mayor of atlantic city new jersey. And that's where we reached him. There's small what sort of interest is there and being the one to blow up donald trump's former casino. First of all. Thank you for having me. And it's a great day here in the city of atlantic city at my state of the city address last year. I said my one of my goals for twenty twenty was too Demolish trump plaza. It became Severely disrepair became an eyesore and it became a safety hazard and We're happy to announce that not only. Are we imploding. trump plaza. But at the same time we auctioned off the proceeds to do the countdown and press the button and going To youth in atlantic city Through the boys and girls club of atlantic and has bidding started to be the person who does the who does push the button. Yes love is up now on live. Auctioneers dot com and also on january nineteenth. At one pm that will be live auction online. my goal is to raise a million dollars for the boys and girls club of atlantic city There's been a lot of caused a lot of interest And people who want to donate directly to the boys and girls club as well as well as Participate in this auction. Can you just tell us you mentioned that has become the buildings actually become dangerous. What i just described the state to the trump plaza hotel and casino at this point mission began in like may late may and They're preparing the building for implosion but prior to that any time that we got north west win It was a danger You know to the surrounding area you had chunks of concrete falling off the top of the building you have metal flying everywhere and it was a dangerous situation now it close completely in two thousand fourteen But this was one of four atlantic city casinos that was in the the the the trump portfolio what happened to the others world. They've been repurpose. trump taj mahal which was the main casino for donald. Trump is now hard rock on the former trump marina. is now transformed into golden nugget. He also at one time on trump's world fair which has been to down prior to that but the is trump plaza was the spot. Where all the major events In atlantic city took place. They would sponsored right next door to historic boardwalk hall. That's where all the mike tyson fights. Were back in tyson's heyday. When he fought in the great city of atlantic city. it was the home of wrestlemainia four and five so to see that place deteriorate You know it's it's it's sad but ultimately it's ironic because donald trump on the national scene has said that he took advantage of the bankruptcy laws. He heard a lot of mom and pop businesses. He heard a lot of Minority businesses And he said he he said look. I made all the money. I could make out of atlantic city and then i left so It's it's a great thing that now. We're going to demolish that building and we want to raise money for children in atlantic city to prosper. You're gonna to get rid of a building that's Has to come down. You're gonna raise money but the clearly. There's some symbolism in this as well what what is the message that you think people are sending with us. oh when i As man responsible for the health welfare and safety but at the same time this will definitely put an exclamation point not only on donald trump here in the united states but donald trump in atlantic city. How would you describe his relationship with atlantic city at this point There's none used people. He abused people he like. You said he made all the money that he can make didn't matter You know who he stiffed on his way out the door and Tom for good riddance. You're a democrat. Do you think that your view of donald trump is shared by people in atlantic city. This isn't about democrat decision about republican. This is about the right thing to do to protect the health and safety of atlantic city residents and at the same time since donald trump has taken so much from so many atlantic city is Tom used to give back to the atlantic city. So this isn't a political thing. He's not a politician anymore He's on his way out of office. Which ironically he's going out like a sore loser And that's not the message that you know you wanna send the people but at the end of the day like i said we're doing the right thing for atlantic city. Do you think the person though who had pay the money and enough money to be the person to push the button. Do you think it'll be a kind of kazakh moment for them. Yes i mean. i'm. I'm pretty sure i mean We're going to engage a lotta people. high level politicians. And you know people that are interested in helping out the boys and girls club of atlantic city and being the one the press the button. That's prime piece of real estate as well. What do you think we'll go there. And i it's it's a tremendous Real estate piece It's exactly in the middle of atlantic city You never got one opportunity to get this right. You never hardly have sinister city. Oceanfront property become available and that's a prime piece and we look forward to working with carl icon in his group to assist them in any way that we can To put an exciting new development there. And when do you think that might be able to see. This implosion happen well. It was originally scheduled for january twenty ninth moments before my press conference today. The demolition company called us and said that for safety reasons has to be pushed back a little bit. I guess there's a delay in construction Any construction you could be building a house putting up a fence. I'm there's always some sort of delays so We know what's happening. We know israel and we can't wait all right. We'll be watching mayor small. Thank you thank you. That was mayor. Marty small senior of atlantic city new jersey. That's where we reached him every year around this time. The anticipation builds people from l. Myra to start anxiously. Refreshing of atkinson's twitter feed and at eight twenty nine this morning. He finally posted it. The twenty twenty newsmakers of the year. It's dave's tongue-in-cheek roundup of the lighter items that made headlines in canada's smallest province so as usual it was time for us to give him a call for a rundown of the winners. We reach dave atkinson charlotte town. Dave i understand. You almost gave up on making a pi newsmakers of the year list. This year what happened. So i don't know about you care but i kinda found this year but of a bummer In the middle of summer. I just kind of. I wasn't feeling like the news stories. We're coming across. And they were actually couple that i thought you know what what nominate that for a newsmaker normally here but it just felt. I don't know it. Sounds silly. And i just i had. My energy wasn't into it and then come september. I had more than one person say. Boy i can't wait for the newsmakers so the people demanded that you had no choice. In this you had to come up with the newsmakers list. And who are we to deny them. But i think it's just it's a bumper crop. I mean it's probably. I think it's probably your best list and so we should go through some of these. Of course the one that comes to mind right away his dog on roof. That's a headline. what's the story. There are other story where you can get the entire thing in three words the entire stories but a dog who was on a roof that there was a couple of there is a couple of who lives over in summerside and they got a call from the police and they said do you own a husky and they said well yes. We do own a husky and the police said well. Your dog on the roof and the entire story is about how the dog managed to squeeze his way through an upper window and sat on the roof and had a great time. There's wonderful photos. I suggested you. You look it up Yeah dog on the roof. I've seen the photos. They're great the doug but basically the dog went out on the roof and the window and the dog went back through the window into the house. The dog the dog was never in any problem. And the dog but Anyway it's in the news. Okay now the one we're gonna air. This is clip. We actually a story. We aired here on as it happened. So we'll play this and then you can tell us what's going on here. Here's the clip. Her of mcgurn yesterday and the beach are usually last and the carrots. I run into something pretty interesting. Just the last few beets are sticking noticed. One pretty dark. How long have you been gardening thirty years. Have you ever had a beat this big help. You grow them every year. Have you ever experienced this before with any other vegetables. Carrots pretty big character. I had one this year with five. Looks like your hand. i guess. What's the plan for the. I know i'm gonna keep it around for a while. See what happens if anybody comes up with another big one. Do you think it'd be good to eat. or what. Great big reveal their. What could that be about. That's bi farmers. Sumner mathis and and he's talking about you guessed it. The headline men grows huge. And you know what. It's a huge beat. Let's celebrate like there's no scientific measurement on it he's figures it's probably about four pounds and estimates that keeps the Probably feed feed ten people so that that is a large beat and it is in the news and it was on as it happens because how could we not do. A huge beats. Well i don't know why you would open now. Of course there was a very big political scandal infants island. Here's the headline matthew. Mckay dyes his hair. So what was the the the story there okay. So he's he's the minister minister of economic development tourism And early in the early like back in march right after things have been locked down. He was doing what a lot of ministers are doing and giving daily updates on facebook to let people know what was going on and one day he had to confess that Pretty soon you're going to notice something. So i'm just gonna put my credit in the table now. I dyed my hair and haven't been able to get to the salon so soon my secret will be out. i mean. did you put that on facebook and that would make national headlines another story. We didn't do which really surprises me. because There is an adolescent default. The heart of as it happens and so any chance to talk about a penis story is something we just wouldn't miss and so here stratford. Pe man mas penis infield inserted shepherd. Man has become a bit of a he's sort of florida man of prince edward island. We every i think if you look back at every list we've done there's always been a for a man anyway. This is a fellow who owns it a piece of property over and strategist rich from charlottetown. And he he was for a few years maintaining just a couple of crop circles Just for fun as he voted but then one day he. Wouldn't it. Be funny if i if i added to that and And drew something a little bit more phallic and so it's one of those things where you don't you can't really see it from the road because i mean it's just mowed into grass but wouldn't you know that google earth can see it pretty well and it ended up on the news. I love the quote in the. Cbc story that he gives the he says that the start off the crop circles. And i made a longer cut. So i could drive down toward the end of the thing and then it started to take shape and someone said why. Don't you make it into a giant. Johnson and i said why not challenge accepted an away i went there was also one of i. Don't have this story but there's also a wonder parts part of the end where he confesses midwife isn't a big fan about it and probably doesn't know that it's going to become national mirror possibly why he didn't make it onto as it happens he maybe didn't want to anyway so but that it really is. It's just a great list. I maybe some of them on sidewalk That may have been not an hasn't happened story but pesky beaver no longer a problem. This is in. Oh so you think that you're going to have as good a crop for twenty twenty one. I mean you can only hope never years different. And i think i've even said this before. Carol there comes a time in in in most years. Where like you're halfway through the union. Gosh it just not seeing any good ones but the back half of the year but it is just seems to serve up story after story after story like even yesterday there was a there was a cat that lost a fair amount of weight. That's a lot of people really fought should have made the list so greta with that. But we stand by david. I'm glad that you did it again this year. And it's great to talk to you again. Thanks so much. carol. Dave atkinson is the author of the annual. Pi newsmakers of the year list. We reached him in charlottetown to read more about dog on route for the unusually large beat. Go to our website. Cbc dot ca slash ai. H as you look back on your date. It's easy to pinpoint the moment things went wrong. At first it was great. A hike turned out to be a great first date idea and the guy really knew his way around the forest plus super cute but then it happened. He found the horse manure and rolled around in it for a really long time. Then he scooped up the manure applied to every part of his for. And that's when you knew your friends were right. Never date a panda. You probably didn't know pandas did that. It's news to most of us but not to researchers with the chinese academy of sciences who've been studying this meeting aspect of panda behavior since two thousand seven in a new study described the phenomenon pandas in the chin ling mountain. Seek out horse dung. Then they throw themselves into it in thrash around with abandoned and then they get serious using their pas to cover every single square centimeter of therefore in the end they look like winnie the pooh impersonating a rain cloud and they smell like a stable after a real blow out horse party the researchers suggest that in theory at least there are compounds in the horse poop that might keep as warm in the frequently frigid mountains but whatever its purpose as long as they don't mind the smell and it's not ruining date well no harm deng The theaters have closed. But the show look on play me. Podcast is thrilled to present a new series. The show must go on featuring provocative productions from some of north. 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Ashley chapman is the vice. President of chapman's ice cream. We reached him in markdale ontario. Ashley we know you're used to dealing with cold ice cream but have you ever had the store anything at minus eighty degrees celsius. Yes i have actually many many times to be honest. What's the temperature you use for ice cream then. Well i scream We typically keep our freezers Anywhere between minus thirty and minus thirty five degrees celsius That being said we have transported samples of our ice cream all over the world on dry ice and That would be about minus seventy two. What is it minus eighty six degrees celsius. I believe is the coldest rice get which is how they're transporting this. This vaccine visor cova nine nine thousand nine hundred vaccine is is coming in dry ice and so what have you been able to secure for people in your community for being able to get that vaccine. Well we We moved pretty quickly Few weeks ago as soon as we saw that the pfizer vaccine was gonna move. But it's going to need temperatures of of colder than minus seven days so we started calling around and we found a solution that was Kind of essentially like a Home fridge-freezer unit about the same size but it does go down to It does go down to minus eighty. I believe it's the coldest that one goes down to more than one understand. Yeah we we. We truly lucked out. We spoke to this lovely gentlemen from oshawa and told them where told him where we were and he went. Oh martell my aunt and uncle living martell so he he was great to work with and he said look. I've i've been. He was being run offices feed. He's pretty much sold his entire inventory. Except for two of these freezers and the soon as we talked to him and said you know will take them. Both if you weren't able to secure those freezers would that with the hospital with your. Would your community have been able to get access to the vaccine Potentially my understanding is that there are a couple of these units and different hospitals in our area but it certainly would have Made it much more challenging so my heart goes out to our health professionals. And the stresses and the pressures that they have been under since the beginning of this and anything that we can do to just just help them see the light at the end of the tunnel and and and then just you know maintain for a few more months as there's more than worth any than any price. Why was it so important to you to be involved in. Storing the vaccine Well a couple of reasons My parents have always believed in being part of the solution. And we've been part of the pandemic response solution for for decades With our freezers So really it was important to to to us to maintain that And then let's let's be honest. My my parents are seniors I live in this community. I live in this area and Anything i can do to protect The people that i love around me. I'm just. I'm just gonna do it when you say that your that. Chapman's has been involved in pandemic response for decades. What do you mean by that Well most Health units have a plan of how to distribute a Vaccine if needed And so i think my parents were originally contacted. Probably in the eighties. At some point where they said oh well if there is a pandemic we may need a place to store and you've definitely got lots of freezer space. So this is your your. Your parents started. Chapman's almost fifty years ago. And so they signed onto this. What did they think that. It's finally come to pass that. They are playing this role. Your company is well. At the time it was it was pretty basic. My my father had a luckily a very mild case of polio. When he was a child like this is a generation. That sees the The value in vaccinations then when they first approached it would it was inconceivable to them to say. No like how could you. How could you not help out if there's a great health catastrophe right when you told them that you had a that. You had got these freezers for the hospital. How did they respond well. The first question was how much people yeah. You don't operate a successful business for almost fifty years and not that i how has your i understand your company. You like other stores like lob laws You gave a kind of a boost to your employees. Pay at two dollars more. But you stayed with it when others like blah blah's ended its pandemic pay. How you how your employees doing They're actually doing really well Champions ice cream is never paid minimum wage. We've always been considerably higher than minimum wage but when we actually looked at what it costs to live in our area. We realized okay. The now is the time we're going to do it. We're gonna make this Pandemic pay permanent. And we're gonna put our starting wage into the into the bracket of a living wage for area and it was just the right thing to do. Actually it's good to talk to you. Thank you great talking to you too ashley. Chapman is the vice. President of chapman's is green. He was in markdale ontario. And we have more on this story on our website. Cbc dot ca slash ai h Skating is very popular this year. In winnipeg the demand for backyard rinks has skyrocketed in toronto. There are weightless to hop onto local rings and in saskatchewan one. Young boy is hoping for a pair of skates under the christmas tree. That young boy is actually fictional brian. O'connell and he grew up in the nineteen thirties on the prairies. The only thing he had on his christmas list was a pair of skates but sometimes parents. Don't get it right. Here's former as it happens. Co barbara budd. Reading an excerpt from wwl mitchell's classic. Nineteen forty seven novel. Who has seen the wind. In the o'connell christmas began as the rule early in december when the boys started to decide what presence they would like in brian. Second year of school. Christmas was called earlier to the parents attention because with the beginning of winter. Brian asked for skates. Maggie's first response was unbelievable. It was difficult for her to think that one of her boys was old enough to once gates. She reminded him that he was just past seven. And that forbes. E hoffman didn't have skates yet ryan replied that art sherri had them art who was a year and a half older than brian had inherited a pair from an older sister. They're high tops has been cut down. They had to be worn with three bears of woolen socks. So that arts feet wouldn't slide around in the shoes but to brian stateless. They were things whose beauty would endure forever. Skates became a frequent topic of conversation at meals at length. The grandmother said she was sick of hearing about them. Would it not be possible to get the child. A pair so that he could break his neck and give them a few peaceful meals. Maggie forbade brian to mention skates at the table again the day that he saw the new tube skates in the hardware store window. Brian called on his father at work. All why can't i have them. Dad well your mother says you're too young for them. No but i'm not. I'm sevens pretty young for skates. I was seven a long time ago in the fall. I'm past seven. Well you're still too young when you're older next year. Perhaps but i'll be older at christmas. That's a long ways away. May i have them for christmas. No i don't think so son. After brian had left gerald felt a pang of remorse difficult to see why. The boy could not have skates so that night. He had a talk with maggie. Perhaps by christmas time he asked her he'll be almost seven and a half then. His wife looked at him a long time before answering. You know i love him to gerald. I hate to deny them anything as much as you. It's just that he seems so. Do you think he's old enough do you. Honestly i think so maggie. It isn't because he just wants them so badly. Well he's old enough. Let him skate so after a decent interval brian was told that he might possibly get skates for christmas. Bobby then insisted that he should get skates too but he finally settled for a hockey. Stick and puck Brian looked forward with eagerness to the promise cates. He thought of them often whenever the boys gathered after school with worn sliver thin sticks to play a sort of hockey between tin cans goalposts and with a blob of frozen horse manure for a puck and the more he thought of them. The less envious he was of art with his women's skates there would be nothing feminine about his. They would be sturdy tubes with thick felt tongues night before christmas. He was almost sick with excitement and anticipation as he lay in his bed with bobby beside him he could see the skates clearly with their frosted tubing and the clear runners that would cling to his thumb when he ran it along them to test their sharpness. He could see himself gliding over the river alone on shining ice with a twist. Lean a shower of ice snow and he came to a breathtaking. Stop bobby stirred in his sleep. Wake bobby but bobby didn't answer him. Perhaps there would be strapped over the ankles. Not that he would need them for his ankles. Were strong his feet wouldn't slop. He flexed them beneath the covers. Stronger than anything. Maybe they were too strong and when he pushed he would push the ice clean full of cracks. He closed his eyes tightly. Only could get to sleep. The time would pass more quickly when one slap it was nothing swift as a person on skate. Swift as the win. He came brian. He came body was jumping on the bed. His hair bright in the winter sunshine. That filled the room. Brian jump from bed come. On their stockings lumpy with oranges each with a colored card cardboard clown protruding from its top hung from the mantle of the fireplace. Bobby sleigh that could be steered was before the tree. Bobby threw himself upon the parcels. Hey wait a minute cried brian. They're not all yours just with your name. He began to sort up the presence upon which maggie the night before had printed in large block letters that brian could easily read anxiously bryan. Watch the growing pile of parcels beside him. He opened a deep box to find it full of colored cars and an engine in little compartments. He opened another a mechanical affair. Which when wound caused too long men to dance all the while turning round slippers were in one promising looking parcel and as he opened the last of his parcels he was filled with the horrible conviction that something was wrong and then he saw a parcel behind the christmas tree. His name was on it. he opened it. They were not to escape. They were not single runners skates. They were bob skates double runner affairs with curving to- cleats and a half bucket arrangement to catch the heel of the shoe for swift moment. Brian's heart was filled with mixed feeling a disappointment bitter and blinding was there but with it a half dazed feeling of inner release and relief that he had got skates. They were skates. He told himself as he turned them over in his hands. What's the matter of ryan. Bobby had looked up from his fire. Engine ryan got up and went into the living room. He sat on the window seat next to the shamrock plant. The bob skates upon his knees. When bobby came through a wild later clutching hockey stick a foot longer than himself. Brian paid no attention to him throughout dinner. He spoke only when spoken to when his father and uncle were seated in the living room with lighted cigars and his mother and grandmother were in the kitchen washing the dinner dishes. He went unnoticed to the hallway. Put on his coat. And two. And with the bob gates went out. He passed other children as he walked pulling christmas. Sleighs and christmas toboggans some with gleaming. Christmas skates slung over their shoulders. Through the fiercely tinsel snow sparkling unbearably in the sunlight. He walked not toward the downtown bridge. Where children and adults swoop over cleared ice but toward the powerhouse and this small footbridge there. He sat near a clump of willow fitted the skates to his feet buckled the straps over his steps and went knee deep through the snow on the riverbank to the ice. Once on the ice he stood for a moment on trembling legs. He pushed with one foot skidded sideways. The other went suddenly from under him and he came down with the bump that snatched his breath. He got carefully up and stood uncertainly. He pushed a tentative skate ahead and then another. He stood still with knees half bent. He gave a push with one skate. Preparatory to swooping over the ice and fell flat on his face he got up. He began a slow forward sliding across the ice painfully noncommittal steps of a stroke victim just risen from bed. He was not skating. He was walking with an overwhelming feeling of frustration. That reminded him of dreams in which he ran with all his might but stayed only in one spot. He fell again and felt his elbow go numb he sat on the ice looking at his own feet ahead of him and he began to cry. Bryans parents his grandmother and his uncle were seated in the living room when he got back to the host. He was carrying the bob skates as he came out of the hallway. I been skatin- said sean. Brian didn't answer him. Uncle shawn asks you a question. Son said maggie. John's big freckled hand reached out to take one of the bob skates. That's a damn. Fool questions sean. Bella doesn't skate with bob skates. Had somebody pulling you did ya. Brian shook his head. What's wrong brian. Father was looking at his tearstained face. Brian rushed from the room. What do you mean maggie trend to. Sean what do you mean. What's wrong with escape. What did you mean. Oh yeah they call them. Gates said sean. You can't skate with just teaches. Kids a healthy respect for ice. That's all got up at all a skid like hell never forget the first time. I took gerald on ice with a pair about same age as brian. He had a hell of a time ended up hanging onto coat tails whilst i pulled him around. That means that bright. That means that maggie got up and went swiftly from the room. She found brian at the kitchen window. Oh don't they work son still looking out the window. Brian shook his head all. Aren't they what you wanted to. He got out with difficulty tubes. Like can harris his. Oh i'm so sorry brian. Mackey wants to shoulders moving. She turned his face around to her. Own don't please. don't sweetie all fixed it. And she went to the phone. Mr harris have you got a pair of of tube. Skates left is small size. I wonder i wonder if we will. If you could come down to the store with me and my son you will that night. Mcgeough karnal stood at her children's bedside with her white nightgown to her heels. Her hair into black braids. She looked like a little girl in the dennis of the room. A glinting carter. I and she saw a length of leather lace hanging down the side of the bed. Brian slept with his hand clenched around the runner of one tube skate. His nose almost inside boot. Maggie reached out one hand and laid it lightly upon brian's cheek. She kept it there for a long time. Then she gently took this gate from his hand. She turned and with the flat. Soft steps of the barefooted. She went from the room. That was the great barbara budd reading from the novel who has seen the wind by wwl. Mitchell will have more readings during the holidays including the shepherd on thursday december twenty fourth. You've been listening to the as it happens. Podcast our show can be heard monday to friday on. Cbc radio one on sirius xm following the world. Six you can also listen to the whole show on the cbc listen app. Download it for free from the app store or google play. Thanks for listening. I'm carol off. And i'm chris for more. Cbc podcasts go to cbc dot ca slash podcasts.

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MBA1742 How Much Should You Spend on Marketing? + Free Ride Friday

The $100 MBA Show

13:17 min | 2 months ago

MBA1742 How Much Should You Spend on Marketing? + Free Ride Friday

"One hundred dollars. Because when you're better so is your business. That's why we delivered daily ten minute business lessons for the real world. I'm your host or coach teacher. Omar's and home also co founder of webinar ninja an independent software company. I started with my partner back in two thousand fourteen and just a heads up. Today is free right friday every friday. We give a lifetime membership to one of our training programs. We're giving away. Easy course are five hundred dollar course over easy course dot co view on win it. Just leave us an apple. Podcasts reading review and you enter our weekly random draw. Listen on on friday like today to see if you won. It's that easy. It's our way to say. Thanks for showing us love on apple podcasts. And today's lesson you'll learn. How much money should you be spending on marketing. Whether it's facebook. Google ads paying an influencer sponsorships in person events how much cash to be dropping on marketing bring in customer many businesses. Think about this in a totally wrong way. They think oh. I should be spending twenty thirty. Forty percent of my budget on marketing. Won't today's episode. I'm gonna give you a simple formula to know how much you should be. Spending to acquire a customer and the total amount of money should be spending on marketing. You're going to take some notes in today's episode because this one might just be a game changer for you so let's get into it. Let's get down to business. Support for show comes from start. Your first online business might all new ten part audio course on himalayan learning this is of course is going to get you from zero to one. That's gonna get you from thinking about your business to actually launching that business getting it out of your head and into the real world recover things like validating your idea creating your first product pricing marketing financing your business even creating your business website and more check it out and himalayas dot com slash nba and use code nba to get a fourteen day. Free trial again. The timothy dot com slash. Nba promo code nba marketing. It's money we have to spend to bring in new customers. It's one of the things a lot of entrepreneurs neglect and they wonder why they're not making enough revenue one. Today's episode. i'm gonna give you a simple formula to know how much to spend to acquire customer. And how much and told to spend every single month on marketing a lot. We will go around doing this the wrong way. They kind of just think. I want to acquire customer in the cheapest way possible or i want to acquire as many customers as possible with the least amount of money. No no no okay. I'm going to save a lot of headaches a lot of time and especially money so this is what you're going through. Your first step is need to understand the ltv of your customer. The lifetime value. How much money on average does each customer spend at your business now. You might be using some sort of Data or revenue analytics tool like profit well or burr. Metrics or chart mogul but to keep things simple. If you don't have one of those tools about the way propolis freeze if you want to check them out. They can integrate with your payment processor. but an easy to figure out. The ltv is to kelly all the revenue you've ever made in your business and divide that by the number of customers you've had so the make things simple. Let's just say. I made one hundred thousand dollars in revenue in my business so far and had a hundred customers if i divide that that means my. Ltv per customer is thousand dollars on average. The amount of money i take from each customer in total is a thousand so some customers will spend more. Some customers will spend less but this is on average thousand dollars per customer. Now this could be because some customers are buying more of your stuff or coming back are staying longer. If it's a subscription service or Are buying up upsells. This all is factored in the ltv. It's an average of how much money you make per customer so this number is really important. Your ltv why because now you know how much you make per customer so every time you get a customer on average you're gonna make a thousand dollars from them in the lifetime of customers rating with you so now you know you need to acquire this customer for less money. You have to factor in how much it costs you to get this customer. Not only in terms of you know maybe add dollars of running facebook ads. But if there's somebody that's on your team that's hired to do this marketing person or using service you have to include that cost too but if you're doing it yourself then we're gonna go straight up the cost to acquire this customer so if you spent two thousand dollars to have a booth at a conference and you got four customers out of conference it costs you five hundred dollars each customer. If you're ltv's thousand that's not bad okay. You doubled but tv's three hundred. You lost the money on acquiring that customer. This why you're ltv is so important to know. How much money are you going to get by acquiring this customer so once you know your ltv you know you have this much wiggle room on acquiring that customer now. I like to at least start by spending twenty five percent of my ltv on the customer. Why because i have other expenses of my business. And i want to be able to skill this as much as possible so if my ltv one thousand. I don't want to spend more than two hundred fifty dollars to acquire that customer. Ltv is four hundred dollars. Then you spend more than one hundred dollars obviously the lower the caq. The customer acquisition cost the better. That means you are getting a tremendous amount of upside tremendous value from that customer with very little cost in your into acquire them. So that's a next thing you need to figure out. How much does it cost you to acquire a customer. Not every channel that you try to Market is gonna get you the same cac so you might run facebook ads and let's say for example. It costs you ten dollars per lead to get A lead and you can convert those into customer at a twenty five percent conversion rate. I mean it cost you. Forty dollars to acquire customer on facebook at you might sponsor a podcast and you have a unique link and that unique link tells you how many customers do get and this is why when it comes to something like sponsorships it's good to experiment and see With a few episodes how well it does. You can understand the caq so that you can double or triple down on this medium on this avenue of marketing. Now now that. I have my caq. Let's say for example. It costs me fifty dollars to acquire a customer. Look at your growth goals. If you want to grow and bring in one hundred new customers this month you now know how much you have to spend to get those hundred customers. A hundred times fifty. You're cac which is five thousand dollars. Now if you're ltv is a hundred thousand dollars because it's one hundred customers times thousand for ltv thousand then your total ltv for these hundred customers is a hundred thousand dollars so you don't mind dropping five grand to make a hundred grand. This is how you find out how much you should spend on marketing. It's your caq times. The number of customers you actually want to bring in now you might be saying. Well omar i wanna bring as many customers as possible first of all. That's not true because you don't know if you can handle infant amount of customers if you have the right customer support team if your system can handle like how traffic you have the right service if the right You know redundancy in your technology to be able to handle it in your online store. This is why it's good to have milestones so your first month you might say okay. I want to bring in one hundred customers hundred times my caq. That's five thousand dollars awesome. I'm going to bring in those customers. Then i'm going to up the ante. And i'm gonna try to go with one hundred and fifty next month. I'm gonna reinvest in the money made from that marketing. And all those new customers i acquired and go for one fifty. Then go for two hundred and by slow and steady. You'll start to see the things you need to scale on with a customer service. Whether it's your servers these you'll start to see a little bit of extra load or slowness that you need to prep for the you need to actually upright an invest money into that but now you know how much you should be sending on marketing. Every month fire tv. Find out how much it costs you to acquire customer and then multiply the number of customers you want to bring in times or caq cost for acquisition per customer and you got your monthly spent got more on today's topic but before that let me give love to today's sponsor webinars we know how well they worked generate new business for coaches consultants and other creators. We know that marketing is ten times more powerful than you add. Webinars cheer campaigns. But what's the right platform to use. 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It might be okay for a week two three weeks nearly a month. Maybe you in two months. Depending on the market you're in how saturated it is but you're gonna have to change it up. Your back will start to rise. It's going to cost you more to acquire a customer that's just the nature of tapping into a certain nisha market or Audience it's endless. You're going to have to pivot and change. Change campaign changed the offering change the funnel so keep calculating your cac as it changes and keep calculating how much you should be spending marketing based on that and always make sure your cac is reasonable like to say twenty five percent of your ltv. Why because that rise cac is going to happen so even if it's thirty thirty five forty percent. I'm still in a comfortable profitable space. Thanks so much for listening to one hundred via show. Today's episode down over though it's free friday. Let's see who won this week's free ride to easy course are five hundred dollar course over. 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That have him stay with me for as long as possible. See as a challenge as a game and you'll have a whole lot of fun with your marketing. Thanks so much for listening. And i'll check you in monday's episode. I'll see you then take care

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Lost Tracks of IndyCar: Trenton Speedway

Pit Lane Parley

23:17 min | 1 year ago

Lost Tracks of IndyCar: Trenton Speedway

"Uh-huh welcome to another episode of Tain Parlay. Welcome to another lost track edition of in Parlay. My name is host. Mike Jokam joining me to you. Talk a trend speedway today and I'm sure he'll be back to talk. Some of these other trucks here is frank. Santa Rosa Frank. Thanks for joining me tonight in Mike any appreciate that the offer. Great to have you on for those who I don't know frank has a great motor sports. podcast called drafting circuits You you may have heard me on there some point earlier this year last year but Today were were here to talk. Trenton speedway which is or it used to be about ten miles from where I grew up. Right in Trenton. New Jersey. So Frank Where do we start when we talk about trends speedway well Trenton? speedway actually one of the oldest tracks On the planet. You know the oldest old tracks A lot of your early Oval Oval tracks in the United States began horse racing facilities. Now Trenton just a seventeen year Trenton. If you're not familiar with New Jersey trend is in central roll West New Jersey. It's about oh about half an hour from Philadelphia a little over an hour from New York City. So it's between it's a big population. Centers and New Jersey has a large population of its own with Trenton being Pretty well populated city as the capital of New Jersey The track was put together in nineteen hundred again for basically for horse racing but in that same year they built the tracks they did have their first auto arrays which was more of a kind of a curiosity The automobile was still very new. A lot of people had never seen one in their life. So this was more of like you know. Get your first look at the amazing new horseless carriage You know But but that was the first Motor Motor sports event at Trenton in nineteen hundred but racy really Kinda didn't catch on there till about Oh nineteen twelve. They use it for a horse racing. They they had a couple of races here and there Between Nineteen O five nights. You know eight but in nineteen twelve. They started hosting auto racing regularly now. Trenton is part of the New Jersey State. fairgrounds and auto racing at the State Fair. All across the country became pretty much the rage in the in the early Nineteen tents and whatnot so They they they continued. Take on racing. The the A half mile dirt oval They ended up building grandstands there And and and raced you know during the state fair and then on occasional weekends here and they're true the year until nineteen forty one when with World War Two Auto racing issue was bad across the United States as you know. Every manufacturer was Raila whatever's towards the war effort so Like like every other track in the NATA saved they decided dormant until nineteen forty six and they reopened the track and they they expanded the half Mile Oval to a one mile oval. Now the interesting thing they did here was they. Actually they move the track a little bit. They changed the profile. Attract back to get that one mile oval in there but they didn't move the grand stance Because there is a concrete foundation under the grandstands it was pretty easy to move the tracks little heart and move the grants and so you had this really odd viewing angle in the turn one to two area Where were you? Were the spectators rather far from the track. And the you know the the the profile of the new track didn't match the profile of the all tracks but the grandstand mashed profile. The old track. That was not fair But folks got used to it and as racing kind of You know picked up there in nineteen forty. Nine was the first time we saw the indy cars which were called the championship. Cars then raced on the dirt there. didn't come back They were you know transition more mortar pavement but there were a lot of modified races and run which brown kind of things But what they in nineteen fifty seven. I believe they went ahead and pave the track and which brought the champ cars cars back For good and the champ cars raced at least twice a year in some years three times a year all the way until the track closed in nineteen eighty the last races there were nineteen. Seventy nine In that in that stretch of having the champ cars we you know we saw a lot of great races and again sometimes you know two times a year sometimes three times a year. But the the master of Trenton was a young man named. Aj foy. And I know that some of you folks that enjoying the corporation have heard of him But he had never heard of him. Yeah so but yeah. But he he was a king of Trenton. And then this other young fellow who didn't live that far away was the prison tread. Mario Andretti also WANNA. I believe Mario won in seven races of Trenton. Major one twelve so those guys really had figured out So we continued on the pay. One Mile will For Uh for a decade until they want to expand this thing to what you call superspeedway latch which was mile and a half. Now all the confines of the real estate there's a housing development over on the other side of the track so they couldn't just Kinda you know just expand the thing in a straight line so they essentially bent the track. Give it this kidney bean shaped so. There's a dogleg on the back straps. It's not a Dogleg. In the traditional sense Dogleg is inverted. So you've got an oval with a pronounced right turn. That was made it a little interesting for guys to set up but the guys who had figured out the old track figured out the new track again. We're talking Mario and we're talking AJ So Yeah that that track continued on until the demise by then a little bit. But I don't want to do all the talking talking. I want to see what kind of things you throw at me yet. No it's funny you mentioned the For lack of a better term here the kidney he being shaved Started in nineteen sixty nine that you were just talking about sixty which appeared in that indy. Five hundred hundred Historical Ish video game that was on the original xbox a number of years ago it was considered pretty dangerous. If I'm not mistaken correct for the guys who didn't figure it out. Well the thing was excuse me all right was dangerous then Training was no more or less dangerous than other tracks. As a matter of fact there's only three deaths for the INDYCAR guys That have been And then one is a very interesting story. Jimmie reese Either nineteen fifty eight that was prior to the kidney. Bean shaped but Jimmie reese had been involved in an accident earlier that year at the Indianapolis Motor speedway the accident. That took the life of Pat O'Connor Now another driver name Eh Eh. Deletion was widely blamed for this accident. However Jimmie reese fail to little at fault and when it came came down to it when when his car was slipping away with in front of him he kinda brakes really hard which collected some guy behind him Now when Dan Rea said his accident Trenton when his car was getting way he he didn't break or slow he kinda kept his foot in it which which watched him over the fence and cost him his life now. Some folks say that he was you know had learned that lesson. I didn't want to didn't want to collect other guys behind. But we'll never be able to ask him because he lost his life crash. But that's kind of kind of odd little undertone story there But but as far as you know was was the kidney bean shaped dangerous more dangerous than than other tracks when it comes to. I mean sure there were some guys who couldn't figure it out But I mean if you look at if you look at the stats look at the speeds at Trenton You know not not a lot of guys I mean when you compare to place like Langhorn which would chew up guys. Spit them out. Or even if you compare it to the Indianapolis speedway which would lose guys is Left and right and sometimes you know two and three guys in the same race meeting Trends no more dangerous than anywhere else but it was just it was interesting it was different. It was hard to set your car up for. 'cause this is. This isn't a time where the guys were running primarily ovals all the time so they put a lot of stagger a lot of staggering at tires to make turn left really well but the trend had a you know it wasn't it wasn't just a little writer and it was. It was a straight up right. Turn in the middle of that back extra away. So the the old video and pictures I've been able to find are are pretty remarkable You touched on. Aj Foyer. And I'm looking at the winners list. Here one two three four five times in a row between night April nineteen sixty three in July nineteenth of nineteen sixty four at Trenton and For those listening posts these pictures on our social media after the episode is released My great grandfather got some a picture of Eddie Sachs in a victory lane in nineteen or the early nineteen sixties I have a extra from nineteen sixty. Do Three in victory lanes miracle photos Trenton. And yes we will definitely talk Langhorne in the upcoming weeks as the other Even more local tracks To to me here so you know talking. More about Trenton. In addition to the Kidney Bean one of the turns from Pocono was modeled after Trenton. If I'm not mistaken correct. SS correctly the terms of token are modeled after Milwaukee Indianapolis and try and turn one is trending turn to is Indianapolis and Turn Street. Is Milwaukee But it's interesting that you bring up Pocono because Pocono was actually poconos built in nineteen seventy one But Tokyo title had a little bit to do with The demise of Trenton Based on the yeah there about an hour apart Trenton actually did host NASCAR They the only house in the May Times I believe I don't number one. They didn't draw crowd Folks preferred the oil cars to these stock cars. Stock cars really didn't didn't catch on nationwide until much later but once Pocono was up and running The NASCAR guys which even cup series now is called all the grand national series then decided to to move their date that they had reserved for Trenton to Pocono The last Nascar Qarase was in nineteen seventy two at Trenton and in nineteen seventy four. They debuted focused on. They've been having Quite good success at Pocono ever since they did the NASCAR'S I was gonNA call them the grand nationals did the NASCAR's have any different struggle with the kidney. Bean tape than the indy. Cars did very similar struggle. Getting you guys. That are running primarily all ovals you know other than the occasional Asian trip to riverside which where they set up a car for a road course. But you I mean here you are you want to set up for an will because you know seventy five percent of the track rackets oval. It's just other than that one. Turn in there so the struggles were similar with the setup so But but speaking of the danger of track I wanted to before we got not too far off the subject of the danger of drying. I wanted to bring up a guy name Tommy Thompson now. Does that name ring a bell to you at all. Only because I see his name on the front of my computer screen right now looking at Trenton speedway facts but to be honest with you outside of that no it does not table so interestingly enough. Here's a guy who was it was Kinda lost to racing He was an African American driver and he was a very talented young man. He was running. And the USAK mini indy series. which is the precursor to Any lights But it was really closer to former former supervisor back then it was nineteen seventy eight Where Tommy had a pretty promising career he he was running wheels also running in the Askar? Oh but he's he lost his life at Trenton in nineteen seventy eight MVP You know the In the mini indy. Erase the the the opening act. That's the word I'm looking for the opening act for the for the big Usak race That was won by Mario Mario the next day but but here's a guy who could have realistically be Willy t ribbs to the the bachelor the first african-american qualify for the five hundred. Because this guy was pretty good. He was working on a shoestring budget but he had some had some decent backers So that that was a little tragic in the what could have been a kind of scenario. They're coming out of Trenton yet. Now that you talk about him I definitely have heard my. Hi Dad. Talk about him in the past Real quick not necessarily a Trenton question. But because you brought it up How did the mini indy? Cars differ from the Super Vee cars of for Franken case. You didn't listen or any of our listeners. Forgot back in May we talk to now former. NHL Goalie Mike McKenna. Whose Dad was as Subaru driver? Back in the sixties seventies. I'm sorry Michael has to check with you on when when he raced. If I'm not mistaken the the mini indy and actually foremost super. Vee were. We're pretty much the same formula. It's just there were sanctioned by different Wadis there you have it Usak Mini Indy. But it was essentially the same thing as a formula Super Vee and there are a lot of really good any car racers who came up through super vague Michael Andretti Bill Elsa Rick mears his. Name's like that And the I think they just read the Usak once you sang by Usak. We're called mini the than the SEC had their formula Super Vee and then they later had gotten Robert Bosch Company to sponsor the series in the sea When Cart Kinda took over from USAK as the primary sanctioning body for the indy cars But I don't believe there's a whole lot of difference and I'm sure there's a couple of old timers out there who will correct me and tell me I'm totally wrong that spectrum but as far ars I know the many very similar to the supervie's let's We'll wrap up our our trend. speedway addition addition. Here with the you know what led to the demise of Trenton speedway now you mentioned conor will lead to the demise from from the NASCAR perspective the but what led it to now become a ups shipping facility and housing a cramped housing development in Trenton New Jersey. Well there's a lot of contributing factors there if you look at The fate of say Riverside in Ontario California. It's very similar to what happened to trend. uh-huh as urban sprawl kind of moved in and again trying to sandwiched between New York City and Philadelphia. Real estate values were much higher therefore redevelopment than they are to have a have a racetrack. They would sit there Dormant for most of the year until the state fair came around pocono played a part in the demise. We had A. It sounds weird to say. Oakland wasn't ultra-modern facility to Trenton. They say that today with the POCONOS got knocked. It'd be a little behind the ties. But you know back back in the early seventies and you you know what's POCO open their doors. That you sack was there right away and So you've got the kind of geographical area covered fan so the crowd started and the The other contributing factor was they were looking to move the state. Okay Fair from Trenton to Sussex County which happened in I wanNA say nineteen eighty three which was about two years after the the track close but they went ahead and sold the track and the entirety other state fairgrounds to private developers. A few other things that factored into this might be seventy six. The when he figured stay fairgrounds state money coming into their right in nineteen seventy six. There's a lot of state money that went into build giant stadium to attract both New York giants and the New York jets to play new New Jersey up in the meadowlands Then in nineteen eighty. They built the Basketball Stadium there to track the New Jersey Nets and the New Jersey devils. So he's got state. Money is being funneled. A that way. Farther up north and SORTA little less going into Trenton. That combined with the the real estate prices going up to where it's more lucrative just to sell it The state money and the dwindling crowds all kind of off an apartment. There so a lot of folks will tell you that various nothing. Nothing you can see that will tell. Are you a speedway used to be there but there are a few things you can look at If you go to the next to the the UPS facility. There's a nice nice little a second meditation garden. It's called the Grounds for sculpture as a Lotta sculpture. A lot of Greenery and plants and whatnot. It's just a nice little place place. There's a little part in the middle and it's these sculpture court. Now when they pulled the grand stands out in the still. We're talking about this concrete foundation that they couldn't they wouldn't pull out when they moved the track in the fifties So they still didn't pull that concrete foundation out so they so they built the grounds for sculpture These sculpture court right over the top of the concrete foundation so he footprints of these sculptured court is the contour of ask from Trenton. Other than other than that. There's not a lot you can. I see some folks. There's a street in the suburb. That used to be the front straightaway. I mean it's been paved over so many times and whatnot. It's it's it's not the same with I. I really don't see that you can see that there. But the the Sculpture Court still has the contour of the original grandstand there. So if you can kind of visualize it when he's when you save you could stand in there. Ignore all the sculpture in imagine a racetrack. Being there you can maybe feel it but otherwise otherwise it's You know there's nothing left you know urban development there's a nice Housing silty a big. UPS thing I went to I went to the last indycar races at Trenton. And those were nights you seventy nine when the cart series had three races that year. I watch the double header event in June. Bobby one one. Both of those Ask the time I was there. The facilities were you know obviously suffering from some lack of upkeep and whatnot that all factors into that state money being funneled up to the meadowlands for for football basketball and hockey which was drawing more folks and racing so But again Trenton has left an indelible and indelible Galvin Marketing Race to you know to sit and talk with Mario Sit and talk with. Aj or sit and talk with other guys that have one. They're like you know Gordon Johncock and even Bobby Unser Rick mears won the final race at Trenton They'll all have fun memories. Yeah I've got a picture from. Aj's less when they're hanging on my wall here in in the office it's Such a cool track to talk about Frank thanks very much for the history lesson on on trend here. I think we'll we'll talk Langhorne next In the near future here but I hope everybody appreciated this and enjoyed the Nazar speedway edition and As well and we'll be back with more these throughout the off season. Thanks very much frank. Thank you appreciate having me on no problem art.

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The Return of "I Can't Breathe"

Start Here

22:07 min | 1 year ago

The Return of "I Can't Breathe"

"It's Wednesday may twenty seventh and three fateful words. I can't read our back. You start here for the second time this month. A video shows an unarmed black man killed as people watch he essentially was suffocated choke to death. The outrage in Minneapolis and what civil rights leaders want to happen next. President trump says open up. Or I'm taking my business elsewhere. We have to know that when the people come down they're going to have the doors opened. The political fights over cove nineteen have quickly transformed into cultural wolves and we haven't seen astronauts lift off from American soil in nearly a decade. Let alone like this. We're talking about research like generating human tissues organs. Even Retinas decisional be historic if the weather holds from. Abc News. This is start here. I'm Brad Milkey if you on twitter at all on Memorial Day you might see this video. Please don't don't come close to a white woman central park in New York City outraged when a black man asks her to leash her dog. Never Paprika American men threatened my life. Please tell them whatever you like. She since apologize. She's been fired from her job at a financial firm and she surrendered that dog. She was dragging back the adoption agency. He's recording is threatened me and my dog but the outrage wasn't just over her fearful reaction was the way she appeared to invoke the power structure involving cops and black men. His name is George Floyd. He was black unarmed and he was pinned down on his neck by Minneapolis. Police later on Monday night. Another video surfaced this time from Minneapolis and this incident. The COPS HAVE SHOWN UP. A black man is cuffed and arrested and minutes later. He stopped breathing on camera a the last two months. We've been leading the show news about public health crisis in this country. Will this moment in Minnesota crystallize something for many leaders there and elsewhere asking if we're so capable of changing our habits to keep people safe? Why are African Americans still dying in situations? That shouldn't be deadly. Let's go straight to Alex. Perez in Minneapolis. Right now. Alex. This really sparked fury in the last twenty four hours. Can you just start by breaking on this video because it's hard to watch? It's very difficult to watch Brad. It runs for about ten minutes and in this video you see the four responding officers particularly two of them who are approaching George Floyd and You see one officer who has his knee on. George Floyd's neck up. You're not getting into Combat George Florida's on the floor. The knee is on his neck. Basically choking him for about ten minutes and as the clock is ticking. You hear bystanders. And other people nearby say he can't breathe. Get your knee off a him. Selena gave several points in the video. You actually hear George Floyd himself say please please. I can't breathe but the officer continues to have his knee on his neck row. He Ain't crime rope now by the time. Emt's arrive. It appears from this cell phone video that a bystander took that. George Floyd is unconscious right now right now and we learn shortly thereafter soon after that from authorities That he had died officers. Were able to get the suspect in handcuffs and officers noticed that the mail was going into medical distress. Authorities initially said that his death was due to some sort of medical episode. That occurred when police responded but that cell phone video that a bystander recorded shows otherwise it appears from looking at that video that he essentially was suffocated choke to death. And I think it's an important point. You make their Alex the sound everyone's GonNa Point to is the sound of this guy calling out. The real crisis is after minute is going by while this guy is silent and then lifeless and the cops knee is still on his neck. What led into the video? Do we know what was happening beforehand. So what we know from officers right now is that they were called to the scene because they were told. The suspect was trying to use a counterfeit bills. Counterfeit money to pay for something to officers arrived. Low candidate suspect a male believed to be in his forties sitting in his car. How escalated to the point where the officer had his neon his neck for ten minutes. That's clear but during this time when the officer has his Neon his neck George Floyd is handcuffed. He does not appear to be fighting. He does not appear to be resisting arrest. And that's one of the reasons All of the bystanders. The people who were gathering nearby were trying to get the officers attentions because he appeared to be doing nothing wrong yet. He had a knee on his neck for ten minutes. I've been trying to find the words to describe what happened. All I keep coming back to is that he should not have died well and so that happens on Monday night. Four officers were fired Tuesday afternoon. What happened to those twelve eighteen hours while we know authorities have launched an internal investigation The county prosecutor here is reviewing the case. We know those officers were wearing a police body cameras on them. That video is now part of the investigation now. This is the first time if you talked to. Anyone who Has served cover these issues in Minnesota the first time that authorities take action so quickly and immediately. Fire these officers. That's the only way this is going to stop is if somebody is brave enough on the other side. Say Hey he wrong. That's not how this go in a lot of the demonstrators and protesters That I talked to say they appreciate that. They believe that that should have happened. It shouldn't have been drawn out process to get them fired for having peace in the streets chain of citizens and the police but now they want to see these officers face charges face repercussions for their actions because they accused that officer of murder and it so striking in that video to see you know the small crowd of people losing it as they're trying to convince cops knowing that if they approach push someone off that that things would get worse last night we did see that anger to start to boil protests at the police precinct in Minneapolis at trek. Hundreds soluble started throwing things at police vehicles. That was damaged to car windows. Police responded with tear gas and those chance of I can't breathe from the aftermath of Eric. Garner's death now echoing through the streets again. Alex Perez in Minneapolis. Thank you. Thank you Brian. If I told you earlier this year that within the span of a couple of months a hundred thousand Americans are going to die that layoffs will skyrocketed reach. We've never imagined and it still in the middle of all. This Americans would be flagrantly ignoring public health officials. What would you expect the stock market to do yesterday for the first time since March traders arrived back on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange and prices climbed? Now it's twenty five. That's a very big day. It's up very substantially over the last six months. This is a key part of how president trump sees the next several months as officials in places like Alabama say they are still seeing surges to see the number that we have right now. We've had over two hundred. Forty percent increase has really been a game changer. For President is much more likely to talk about the Dow than the body count. He said he'll overruled governors on when to reopen churches and restaurants. Well he can't overrule them but he could move the Republican National Convention. And he's threatening to do just that. If North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper decides not to allow big crowds. And it's worth mentioning here. Roy Cooper is a democrat. Because more and more you're seeing the very idea of following CDC guidelines become a partisan issue down to the appearance of the presidential candidates themselves. Let's go ABC's senior congressional correspondent. Mary Bruce and ABC's Political Director. Rick Kline Mary. Let's start with this. It's a huge political moneymaker the Republican convention biggest. Show in town. When it's there. Is there a realistic chance? It gets moved all look. The president is essentially saying that he's going to rip this convention away from North Carolina. Unless they guarantee him that he can have a packed house. I humbly and gratefully accept your nomination wants to juvenile convention with everyone elbow to elbow but regardless of what the president wants. There's just the reality of the current situation. We have to know that when the people come down they're going to have the doors. Open Conventions are essentially a giant party and it is very hard to imagine how in this environment I third party can pull that off right now. I will say that it's okay for political conventions to be political but pandemic response cannot be and so while he's threatening the Democratic governor of North Carolina that if he doesn't get on board will then he's going to jump ship and take his party somewhere else The president it seems as also looking for someone to blame and he wants to blame the Democratic governor of North Carolina and not the virus. And we'll have to see whether or not the governor and he's a Democrat. A lot of the Democrats for political reasons. Don't want to open up their states. So recline I mean it's not like politics and pandemic haven't been intertwined since the beginning like we've clearly seen that but are we reaching a new stage right now is the response of the virus becoming more are versus De. Well there's no question that there's been a return to politics. Maybe not as usual but something closer to that. We're seeing. Joe Biden starts to emerge from his basement from his home servers. Biden making his first public appearance since the start of the coronavirus lockdown wearing a black mask and laying a wreath to mark the day. No Biden can wear a mask but he was standing outside with his wife. Perfect conditions perfect weather there inside. That don't wear masks and so I thought it was very unusual that he had one on president. Trump has been more than willing to to try to make a political animal out of this virus almost from the start and certainly in recent weeks he views. The virus is something that needs to be maneuvered around. He needs the perception that the economy is on the move. We're GONNA have a third quarter that's going to be good. We're GONNA have a fourth quarter. That has the potential to be really good. And we're GONNA have the best. You're one of the best years we've ever had next year and the Democrats really want to bring the campaign back to the idea that this president wasn't prepared for this pan-demic he wants to be able to be going into the fall. Saying the economy's coming back look at the stock market is rising but what? Everybody's predicting has happened other places if you don't do this well there's going to be a second way that he joe Biden sharpening his message that Donald Trump deserves a lot of blame for the state of the economy. You WANNA re start the economy. You want to reopen the economy. Let's do something creative. Let's do it fast. Let's put Americans back to work and let's make America better a Republicans on board for this rick like a Republican governors that thinking about healthcare there had to be democratic governors. Who WANNA turn the money? Spigots back on I mean Andrew. Komo's visiting the White House today. So how clear is the divide when it comes to actual governors? Who HAVE TO GOVERN. Well the governors are viewing this a little bit differently than say a senator or a campaign operative. The governors need to get through this and their state's residents are just figuring out what life's GonNa look on the other side when the other side of covid nineteen. Maybe they're they still need things from the federal government you have an infrastructure that's crumbling. You need to jumpstart the economy. You need to create jobs. Do it now. So the governor's I think we'll be a lagging indicator of the return to politics for the most part. They are trying to do their best by their state's residents whatever that means you do have some governors that are very strong allies of the president. Like Santa's of Florida who raised his hand and said Hey. I'm willing to get that convention North Carolina. If you don't want it word I would love to have the RNC pack. I'm a Republican. It'd be good for us to have the DNC in terms of the In terms of the economic impact for the most governors recognized that this is still a very tense moment and that it's not over however much it may feel like a return to political normalcy. We're not there yet. Mary is that sort of the sense. You're getting or do we see the president trying to trying to wrangle the Republican Party. Trying to get in lockstep a little bit I look. The Republican Party is in a jam in some ways. They WANNA obviously support the president but governors as Rick says are tackling a whole host of really really tricky issues. Just like every other governor across the country we have asked the RNC to present to us in writing their proposals We've had discussions with them about a very limited convention all the way up and this is why the fight over the convention. I think it's such stark reminder of the state of this race because this is a split screen presidential race from here on out of this backyard but I didn't want to give the the pleasure of seeing it to you. Have right trump out there refusing to wear a mask publicly while Biden is making a point of being photographed in them. You wearing a mask. Projects strength or weakness leadership when it presents projects leadership that trump ramping up. His campaign traveled to swing states while buying remains mostly behind closed doors on the virtual campaign trail and you have trump demanding an all out traditional convention while. Biden's team is floating the possibility that there's may go virtual as well the president's excited to see that Joe emerged from the basement on it. It is a bit though that in his basement right next to his wife. He's not wearing a mask but it really is the latest front in the culture wars. And we've seen those kind of divides being used by politicians being exploited by politicians. But when you see a Maga- flag a paid for by the campaign out at beaches around Memorial Day weekend you know that this is a signal and when you see Vice President Biden deliberately wearing that mask in public over on Memorial Day itself. He's sending his own signal about the kind of leader he would be and it's not purely a red versus blue issue. It's not purely a cultural issue but it definitely has those ratifications through politics. And he's not rhetorical questions the ramifications there for each and every American remember that Columbia University. Study the set a couple of weeks early on that delay action might have led to tens of thousands of unnecessary American deaths to which the President Essentially Columbia's at to get them at highlights. The divide. You guys are talking about that. He's essentially saying don't trust the researchers here Mary Bruce recline? Thank you both thanks Brad. Thanks next start here. Air TRAVEL IS WAY DOWN BUT AMERICAN. Space travel is open for business and yes it is a business. The countdown is on the other side of the break. Nation is in need of a pick me up. The American Space Program might get one today. If the weather holds to one zero and lift off the final lift off of Atlantis. Shoulders of the space shuttle. America will continue the dream and this has not seen an honest to goodness rocket launch from American soil with astronauts on board nearly decade. One is scheduled to blast off this afternoon in. Abc's transportation correspondent Gio Benitez in Cape Canaveral Florida and Geo NASA's involved. But the real story seems to be the group that they're partnering with to that. Oh absolutely breath. They are partnering. Up with SPACEX. That is Elon Musk's company and he is going to be here on the ground. Americans shooting into the sky. On the SPACEX Falcon nine a two hundred twenty nine foot tall rocket with reusable boosters lowering the cost of spaceflight we've got the Falcon Nine rocket with the crew dragon capsule aboard and that crew dragon is going to have those two astronauts. Doug Hurley and Bob Benkin vel ultimate goal for for US says astronauts and test pilot is just to go up there and prove out the vehicle. Prove out the mission. It is very exciting because this is creating a commercial spaceflight program this could potentially lead everyday people going into space one day and more than that private companies are going to be able to conduct research in space. We're talking about research like generating human tissues organs even retinas and that can happen in microgravity that can happen in space it cannot happen on earth yet. So it's very exciting. What this could lead to will and so. How will this work today? What is the plan so right now? They are going to wait to see what the weather does. Four thirty three thirty three. That is the exact time this must launch cannot go at any other time and the reason is is that they want to catch up with the International Space Station. These new family of a spacecraft are all autonomous so We conduct a lot sooner. The space station has to be at an exact point for them to launch and that allows them to save fuel as they travel up to the space station. It's going to take about nineteen hours to get a lot of pride today. A lot of handshakes cheers but tomorrow reality really sets in four thousand pink slips go out tomorrow to NASA employees here at the Kennedy Space Center. they will be looking for new jobs as the space shuttle program wind down. And so you know NASA has actually done this from American soil right for like close to a decade. Now you've got spacex and Virgin Galactic and blue origin like you said they've been launching things but never with humans on board and never with this kind of human risk right. So does this feel their two people. You're talking to like a pivotal moment. It is and nobody. Here is downplaying. The riskier explosion. Cape CANAVERAL SPACEX rocket blew up on the launch pad. Would you look at SPACEX? In particular there have been several problems with the tests We saw two rockets Falcon nine just like this one Actually explode on the launch pad during several tests in Africa. Ceo Mark Zuckerberg expressed his disappointment in space. X is failure. The satellite was expected to offer. Internet connections to enlarge part of the African continent. In fact Elon. Musk himself tweeted out. Those videos saying you need these tests to happen. You need these accidents to happen so that you can learn from them. This is risky business. All right it. Is Risky business? We understand the risk. It is risky a one in two hundred seventy chance that there is a catastrophic failure during launch. Nobody thinks that that is a small chance of but they are certainly prepared for it. All of these astronauts incredible Brad is that they are just so calm and they say that in that moment. They are not thinking about catastrophe. The only thing keeps you. You know a little on edge is is tempus showed like the launch camp for the weather they are. They're thinking about how to get this ship into space and do it safe because we don't launch. I know I'm going to be sitting here for another hour and a half and I really Mathur boomer. Scenario for a company like SPACEX. You fail the competitor's Galactic Blue Origin now see a foothold. You succeed and all of a sudden you are running away with this thing in the meantime. Abc has broadcast today with National Geographic at three PM EASTERN LAUNCH AMERICA MISSION TO SPACE. Live Gio Benitez right in the thick of it in Cape Canaveral. Gio hope the weather holds for you. Thank you thank you so much. We'll be watching. It won't last thing every time we've talked about American sports leagues reopening so far. It's been proposals trial balloons. We'll see what happens it afternoon. I am delighted to be with you today. To announce the National Hockey League's plans for resumption of play for one league and its players have signed off on an actual plan yesterday National Hockey League Commissioner. Gary Bettman announced that the current hockey season will pick up just skipping straight to the playoffs purposes of nomenclature record keeping and NHL Awards. Two Thousand Nine hundred twenty regular season has been deemed. It completed for safety. Do all the playing just two cities with secure hotels and practice facilities but then you think well that stinks for teams that were right on the edge before everything imploded who instead of regular sixteen teams. This would be twenty four. Almost the entire league gets in which then makes you think well then that stinks for the teams that were doing really well if everyone gets in. And it's almost as if the regular season never happened at all. They're trying to alleviate that by passing the top teams all until later rounds. Obviously if you are in seventh or eighth place you don't want to play in tournament you just want to make sure you make the playoffs. If you're an eleventh or twelfth you may want to play in tournament but this is the issue plaguing every team sports player right now fairness bang for your Buck Major League Baseball player Ian Snell said even if they can only play half the games on the schedule he still wants his full seven million dollar salary. Thirty three million plus people have fafa unemployment. I got to get mind when you were scheduled to make seven million dollars. It's the dumbest thing to say. Look Johncock which leads a little tone deaf as Americans lose their jobs but his point was you're GonNa make me rush back for less money with his weird format. Why would I put my Elf on the line for that now the NHL Players Union has agreed to this to city? Playoff idea still might not happen though a large portion of the players live outside the US once they get here they got a quarantine for two weeks. Once they quarantined that got a practice and only then can they actually play the NHL? Says the deadline for practices. To begin is to lie. I barely a month away. Tiktok hockey fans. Hey again if the weather holds in Florida you want to check space launch three. Pm Eastern noon Pacific on ABC ABC News Dot Com. Abc's apple have it all for young. I'm Brad Milkey see them.

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