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"john carpenter" Discussed on Show Me the Meaning!
"At dot. Co so just wanted to mention that at the outset so you can feel confident and prepared especially as you're going into this conversation to think about all the things that you disagree with or that you agree with so that you can contribute in your voicemails or e mails as we talk about john. Carpenter's the fog. That starts the scream. Queen jamie lee curtis adrian boult tom atkins janet lee and how hobart among others. It's an ensemble cast. Let's just go around and talk about first impressions and then what was it like revisiting it. Let's start with raymond. I've seen the fog quite a few times. This is probably a top three. John carpenter films for me. I really really love this picture and More than anything. I love ghost stories. That was my first love as a kid growing up. That's what made me wanna be a storyteller and It's one of the things. I love about this movie that it's just a straightforward. Really simple ghost story doesn't do anything to fussy gets in and out in like ninety minutes flat. Eleven of which austin joked about on twitter being just opening credits. It's actually twelve. It continued for another minute and a half after eight weeks after after you bug me the first time. I think it's just a really solid ghost movie. Good nuts and bolts filmmaking very atmospheric and a lot of fun A lot of fun to revisit this time around. So i'm excited talk about it. All right ryan so. I'm glad to be here on john. Carpenter month John carpenter top. Three filmmakers from me. I'm sure we've talked that kind of in the past but like in terms of not not only just watching the movies but as a film make an influence. I would say like i love how he directs movies. How he plays with genres and specifically love how what he does with his scores in know how he makes his own since since base scores so I love the shit out of john. Carter i want to preface. That and it was interesting. Hearing what you just said raymond this is your top three for him and stopped because everything you just said. Basically i believe as the polar but i'm the polar opposite of because this is one of my least favorite carpenter move interesting like It's like it's perfectly fine fun little ghost story but i don't go to john carpenter movie just for fun regular old tired with the movies you know. He's a special filmmaker to me so to me. This is most normal kind of no frills just kind of playing playing a paint by numbers genre ghosts movie. That's perfectly watchable. But like i don't i don't leave going. Wow which is almost every other. John carpenter movie has while moments for me and this is kind of his thrills and also very importantly you say you love stories. I don't really love ghost stories. Like the one i love movies are fighting words. It's more just like a few in my ghost. Movie is literally the movie ghost right because to me. That's that's pretty good. Yeah it's really fun and it's more than just it's more than just a ghost movie. It's like out a lot more going for it and stuff. But like i know to me. They're not that scary. I don't really get the logic of how they work all the time. It's from movie to movie. It just seems like they can do a lot of stuff in just spook you..
"john carpenter" Discussed on Show Me the Meaning!
"What is up everybody. Welcome to show me the meaning. Wise cracks movie podcast. All righty in this week. I austin hayden. Smith joined by the show me the meaning crew of ryan haley sub film bands or regiments. Brian is. he is red state. Ryan is he is. Let's funhouse chatmoss redstone ryan here. Talk about the phone and raymond kremer. Everybody has it going all right so a little bit of housekeeping before we get into today's episode. I we want to let you know that we did run a patron poll a patriotic pole and there were some films that were selected by the three of us. And we let y'all vote on which film we would be covering out of the six that were up there. And i just wanna go through the results real quick so in last place with one percent of votes was. I'm your woman now. What the hell is this movie. I've never heard of that. I'm your woman is a movie that came out last year and last month i was trying to catch up on a lot of twenty twenty movies that i had missed over the year and I give it to watch. And i i really really enjoyed it. It's kind of a a deconstruction of a crime. Movie that sort of follows the kind of characters that would typically be sidelined in a crime movie of specifically you know the wives and girlfriends the the the sort of scorned women who are always pushed to the edges of the frame and more traditional crime pictures but i really really love raymond. What is your record in these in winning these wise crack movie polls. I don't know. I haven't been keeping track. I know that we've done. We did something of mine from patriot oil. I think somebody may have been a patriotic choice of my. It's taken me years to the strategy. On how to to go about this. Because i i used to come out with like oh man. This is some rare cool movie. I hope that it wins my poll but no never do the rare movies anymore. Look baby and favorites crowd-pleaser so the last one was last place was i'm your woman with one percent. The second to last one with eight percent was my choice of mud. The third to last choice with fifteen percent was surf. Nazis must die which without one. I'm going to have to just say. We got. Put that on the list at some point because i would say surf. Nazis must is number four in the patriot. Pull number one in all of his whole historical breakdown on that film. You know it's it's a retelling of world war two with just surfers surfing nazis For the whole family in third place was sound of metal which is another film. That i don't know anything about i. I've been wanting to see that. Yeah the the drummer who starts going dan. Another great Twenty twenty flick. Okay caught up early this year. Very very good. Lead performance from rozan med good performances. All around i love his amid. Okay great and then second place was my choice another round. Which is the new venture. Berg mads mikkelsen Team up Which is probably actually see in theaters. I think i'm gonna see it this weekend. Actually at the ritz theater. If people have writ. I haven't seen it yet. Oh okay..
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"The star studded high production surrealistic musical sitcom shangri la plaza was originally produced as a pilot for b. nineteen ninety ninety one season but for one night only the network decided to air it as a summer fill in on july thirtieth nineteen ninety and that half hour made history. Well kind of in a really weird bad way. So we're gonna talk about the sitcom shangri la plaza. All of the weirdness that occurs around it to talk about cop rock. That was abc. Same year that this came out. It has a very cop rock field. But what is what are your reactions to this the intro. I could not tell you what it was about. If you pay me any amount of money it so abstract i guess and never mind the cheesiness. that's i expect that it's one thousand nine hundred ninety experimental. Things are a little bit weird. I was just saying that. Like i guess seinfeld came and say yeah television at that point but i could not tell. It seemed like a place. Where maybe there's food and abc live. I don't know what is highly. It's hard to tell it's it all began really with nineties. L. a. mall culture shangrila was inspired by that and it was filmed on location in north hollywood strip mall at the corner of vineland and burbank boulevard. In north hollywood california just went for it. This set a strip mall was built on top of an original strip mall which is where the problems really begin. This mall on mall design was the topic of a washington post story in nineteen ninety emmy award winning art director. Jeremy ray elton best known for his work on playhouse was responsible for the set sign. And that's not the only high-calibre name attached this very confused project. Broadway legend terrence man. Who played leads in. Layman's and cat stars as ira bondo machine mechanic who works with his brother. George jeff jaeger lanes musician love interest. John remain in seinfeld. Speaking of seinfeld at the mall's bodyshop. When amy molloy hardin yes jan on the office takes over her shitty husbands donut shop. I think after he dies. Both brothers are instantly. Smitten future smallville. Star nexium sex cult leader. Alice mac a very young l. Plays amy's precocious eight year old daughter in her only on screen acting role jazz. Great carmen lundy plays the donut shops. Only employees savion glover plays a wrapping teen commenting on. What's happening kind of greek chorus style. An oscar nominee. Chris sarandon plays the plazas landlord. It's for something where it's just a pilot of a throwaway like experimental pilot like pretty heavy hitting actors. The show itself was helmed by horror sci fi writer director nick castle. You may know him as the co writer of john. Carpenter's state from new york. And he played michael myers in the original halloween. The composers were craig sapphire or sedan known from his work. On cheers and mark mueller. Who wrote the theme song to duck tales and jennifer pages. Nine hundred ninety eight hit crush it just like there's a lot of talent involved in this project and it just gets lost along the way while working together on projects like the last starfighter tapped the trio discovered. They had a common passion. The three of us loved old musicals. Knicks dad was a choreographer who had done royal wedding and many other movies sephardim says and the opportunity to make a musical finally happened. When cassel's pal jeff sagansky became the head of cbs. He was looking for something new. Some fresh ideas for cbs program lineup castle savannah mueller who themselves the schmaltz kings were creating in la based rock opera and unique written and composed by credit on the pilot the or inspired like i said by the strip malls around the mall culture in the late eighties early nineties. Kind of creating something colorful and also their love of musicals. It's like a hat and a hat on a hat. The pitch to cbs was also pretty weird. The schmaltz kings cleared off sagansky desk and with the keyboard and two speakers. They perform songs from the show in character.
"john carpenter" Discussed on Around the World in 80s Movies
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"john carpenter" Discussed on Around the World in 80s Movies
"They'll the loneliness of being there without women. It was kind of a humorous scene where mcgrady is shown to have a sex doll that was later removed as something. That was too distracting by carpenter. Now one of the pre carpenter screenwriters. I don't know who john carpenter didn't want to name the person but try to frame the alien in the end as he positive symbiotic force rather than a destructive force carpenter. Happy to be a nonconformist. He was kind of a lifelong loner. He wasn't fond of a message of symbiosis. But if you want to see a version of that concept and you want to see women in version of the thing there's a twenty eighteen film called the nile. Elation that has a mostly female cast that does explore these symbiosis theme that this other screenwriter tried to present but was rejected by carpenter. Now getting back to things. Shooting took place primarily in juneau alaska as well as stewart british columbia and carpenter and his crew endured harsh cold lack visibility at various times carpenter and several members of the second crew went without heat or electricity or running water for several days at a time while they were scouting locations and filming exteriors using acting doubles warming sheds and vats of soup were needed at pretty much all times especially because the trailer heating was inadequate. Everybody pretty much got sick. Interiors were done mostly at universal studios but they refrigerated the studios as much as he could to keep things cold. Not quite a freezing. But they did have to contend with things like chemicals in the air and kerosene smoke filling their lungs so it wasn't any picnic either if you're a carpenter. Fan does have his theme of people trapped and having to fight their way out. It's very familiar in that respect than this speaks to carpenters own years of being confined physically or in his career. His love of horror is kind of entrapment. As well. Fear of he feels that. That's a universal. Fear that all audiences the world over can relate to you carpenter in particularly though has a fear of being controlled by other people because he feels that losing that autonomy that he has means losing his identity or the identity of the art that he's trying to create carpenter always seen as kind of an outsider looking in he's not somebody who's able to assimilate very freely. He resists a conformity in favor of maintaining his individuality which is why the thing is something that makes him personally. Afraid now. it's not always easy for carpenter to make this movie. They reduced campbell's characters from thirty seven to twelve for the screenplay but carpenter still felt challenged because there are too many personalities to have to give direction to for particular scenes too difficult to photograph all of them especially when they called for all of them to appear. In a specific room indoors carpenter felt that the middle of the film is also to talky so we started to restructure it. He decided to reshoot several scenes outdoors taking up to the snowy locations to provide more outdoor experience with.
"john carpenter" Discussed on Around the World in 80s Movies
"Equiped stir dot net today. I'm going to be getting into a film that has been largely anticipated by listeners. Of this podcast at least a few have reached out to me and put it on their list of ones. They want me to cover the thing from nineteen eighty two also known as john. Carpenter's the thing. Because john carpenter did direct. This film it's r. rated. It does have pervasive gore a lot of gore for its time violence and language. The run time is an hour forty nine minutes. I guess kurt russell's the main star is more of an ensemble piece. it does have wolford bramley. Keith david richard meser. Tk carter and a whole bunch of other john carpenter of course is the director and the screenplay is credited to bill.
"john carpenter" Discussed on Rock N Roll Archaeology
"Yeah Man let it makes me WANNA go back and watched the entire series again. Yeah and the first season that's just great I. Love the season they do such a great job just building the the universe you know. So many nods to classic films to it's. It's kind of impressive like there's some youtube videos out there where you can. Find. People the breakdown, every Easter egg a nod you know and it's it's crazy man it's crazy and him is from the opening scene you know. anyway argue. that. I look at some synth. Horror Music specifically, John Carpenter. by and number one. Go Watch the thing right now, Q.. You promise that you would I will I promise were eager to hear your your your thoughts on it next week you. Totally. I. Got You I'm John. Dude. I'm telling you. Get some some depends ready as in. Diapers adult diapers Africa. You're going to have to turn the light on. When you sleep tonight for sure. But this is one of the greatest horror sci fi films of all time. I'm actually reading up on John Carbon Right now. This was a few years ago I. Hope it still a thing but apparently, he has mentioned interest in making a film based on dead space video game series which would be. Phenomenal. But that's like perfect John Carpenter You know a story you know dead space. Perfect alliens space. Cool. It's big in a space. Have you seen killer clowns for motivating? Did. Just screamed out loud when they heard that. That one's a goofy like. Colt class you should watch it man. It's. It's fun. Yeah might maybe I'll pull it up tomorrow mark. Doing man all right So Yeah Q. that's it. Those are Halloween episode. I. GotTa Get. My candle out here. You know you end figure out some way to safely distributed this candy. Maybe I'll throw at them. I'm going with blood the blood. All right man happy Halloween happy Halloween everybody Hey if you wanna find out more about us. Go to our website. No filler podcast. Dot. com. I'm not going to go through the whole spiel bonus episode. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Twitter at Nuffield podcast. Finds there. And that's that man next week I. Don't know what we're GonNa talk about next week you because I don't even know a date is beside Halloween. It's Halloween did telling.
"john carpenter" Discussed on Rock N Roll Archaeology
"Feeling spooked already brother Happy Halloween Deed Q.. It is hallows eve it is the eve of hollows. In this is our bonus episode. It's a tradition number. There were not grave digging tonight like we were last last year that was fun. But go back and listen on that one. If you haven't heard, it was a blast. We covered a band called the undoing of David Wright. Those guys know how to how to bring the spookesman. Thrive. So. Yeah Yaqoob. This is our czar annual Halloween episode and I. Mean This is. It's been a scary year just general q i? Feel like we a lot of times people are like Oh man I. Love this time of year you know. I like to scare myself. Watch Halloween in You know watch scary movies and dress up in costumes and stuff. It's like dude, we've been scared shitless the entire year as a as a collective Globe right? It's it's been shit. Yeah. This is an interesting interesting year on the the blip of human existence. But yeah, what are you GonNa do q if a trick or treater. Knocked, on your door what's the plan? What are you? GonNa do I. Don't know but I mean, let's think about our officer you get a nice big. PVC PIPE And just like hold it up, and then just like drop the candy through the pipe in just kind of lands in their bucket. That way you know, hey, you can maintain distance. And still provide. A treats. So, you talk like at an angle, sure like downward angle. So at slides into the bucket. Yeah I mean think about other kids they're short. While I was thinking maybe like blow darts style. Okay just. Smack in the face. Yeah that that is another MC candy corn unwrapped Kanye. That's another great option is just load art style road at the to. Get Lots of lots of options I read one of my co workers he's to just. Put a bunch of like lollipops. He's GonNa stab them in the ground. And they can just grab a lollipop which I think is kind of cool. Of, course, there's GonNa make it grabs like tandem or whatever. But know, of course for that kid, there's always that one kid man I think about it man, this is a relatively safe. Thing. In the year of the pandemic. You interacting with them for maybe ten seconds at most they probably are going to have a mask on already. Everybody's going to be dressed up as a as a nurse or a doctor. You already have the masks here Zombie nurse doctor done done. But our? Accu If you are a a horror movie aficionado. You may have recognized the song that played us in. That was the theme from. The fog. which came out in nineteen eighty. This was John Carpenter film. Starring, Jamie, Lee Curtis you know fresh out of the The the grips of Michael Myers John Carpenter's had I'm GONNA use Jamie Lee Curtis. Again, when I make a film about creeping death is one word you could use. Beyond the fog is basically about. Fuck you. Have you seen. Have you seen the film. No but the guy that I work with on the weekends. He highly suggested that he's been an eighties horror kick recently, it's the best decade for horror. No doubt. But Yeah, it's about a fog that sort of brings in the ghost pirate ship you kind of thing. Really Cool. Special Effects So If. You haven't guessed talking about John Carpenter. And His giant Norma's influence on not only like horror movie soundtracks but sint wave rate nods to John Carpenter all the time. we're gonNA play something that sort of speaks to his legacy. And but yeah, we're GONNA. Focus on one soundtrack in particular. I just wanted to play that theme song because it's like the perfect like. It's sounds like the themes time to Halloween in general right had that Oregon in the beginning of it right the cool. Little Piano Line. It gave me a proper spook did so perfect. but yeah. Many many of you would. Think John, Carpenter music you immediately think of the Halloween deems right. That spooky ass, piano. Super Eerie Piano Yeah and yet but if you're a fan of Halloween franchise. You probably remember. Not. Being too thrilled with Halloween. Three south the one where he's in a where he busts out of a hospital or now that's the second one. Okay. Halloween Three Q. Doesn't feature Michael Myers in the film what a lot of people were like what the Fuck You know we have a Halloween film without Michael Myers is he even like brought up in the film like as it is? Is Jamie Lee Curtis, in it is the same universe. Yeah. It's the same universe, but he's he's just not in it and it's been a while since I've seen it but basically the idea it's it's really silly if when you break it down basically it is about a This this company that makes masks for kids to wear. Called the silver shamrock company. And basically the masks function you basically I don't know it's like I don't walk types unit that's the point the point is I think I am DB covers it nicely kids all over America wants silver shamrock masks for Halloween. Yes. But no. Obviously. There's some some carnage mall dre because it's a halloween film. But the point I'm trying to get at Q. Long winded -Ly as usual is this is to me one of his best films scores. Sorry. One of his best scores I. Think I stand by I. Fucking. Love the thing. Have you seen the thing? Now. I know I'm sorry you've gotTa Watch. That man that is that is one of the best horror films of all time and and I apologize to everyone else's listening just screamed. Yeah. I'm sorry I, mean I don't get me wrong I. Love the first Halloween. That's like a fucking legend legendary film rate. That I've seen countless yet. It's great antidotes up. It's a fundamental promise to you all. On this hallows eve I will watch it tonight the thing. Oh Dude. You'RE GONNA. Love it. It's got some of the best practical special effects in in movie history I mean. It just mind boggling dude yeah. I don't know what what I'm waiting for but my God it was time like the present brother and there's definitely no time like Halloween this anyway. This is a lot of talking. Let's play some tunes you're. So as you may or may not now John Carpenter's is known for his sense. Music. and. Specifically, Q.. He Used Ems V. C. S. Three Seventh I. Don't know that means either thought that sounded familiar but. Anyway And I think we even played. We played a track off of escape from New York in our come true's episode because we talked a little bit about the history of sent wave and stuff like that. Right the score following through features a very heavy synth score, which is why. It's my favorite. Of the Halloween scores, but also I think it's got some of the coolest. Most since.
"john carpenter" Discussed on Around the World in 80s Movies
"From the people of Earth however, in real life that song doesn't appear on that golden record actually is johnny be good by Chuck Berry but perhaps not quickly satisfaction by the stones features piano and. Tamarine by Starman composer Jack Nici. So bringing it full circle there Michael Douglas was very high cheese work since he composed one flew over the Cuckoo's nest, which was a douglas production. Any wanted him to bring that. Magic to Starman. NICI also worked for Douglas just a few months later for the jewel of the Nile and ICHI would receive a Golden Globe nomination for the score for Starman as well. Now, the soundtrack if you've bought this contract to star made, it includes duet between Jeff Bridges and Karen Allen the cover and Everley brothers classic. called. All I. Have to do is Dream Very famous song they actually sing it within the course of the movie kind of an acoustic performance within the home movie footage at the beginning of the film but it came about because Karen Allen Jeff Bridges like to sing together during their downtime in the film they became great friends during the making of this movie. In fact, if you listen to the commentary for Starman that was done with John Carpenter and Jeff Bridges he kind of admits he did fall in love with Karen. Allen during. The making of this film, and he feels that sometimes he does fall in love with his leading ladies despite the fact that he's been married since nineteen seventy seven, that's neither here nor they did make a music video for the song to promote the film and at the end of that video if you watch it, you can actually search for it on Youtube and find it. They do feel the notion to kiss each other romantically at the end of their singing together. So I think they were overcome with emotion for each other at that. Moment they became good friends. They still remain friends. They still get together tea occasionally seeing Karen Allen sometimes appears onstage with bridges and his band, the abide irs, and in addition to singing, she also knows how to play harmonica she the blues harp for the band when she does make her appearances Starman for some reason, has a reputation of being kind of a hit film for John Carpenter may be a successful film, but actually really was not it never cracked the top five on any of its weeks of release but word of mouth. was kind for it. It did linger in theaters for a while it was a modest earner and went through the holidays and then it took in two thousand, eight million dollars overall in the US, which is pretty good for a John Carpenter film. Unfortunately, the production budget was twenty, four million dollars, and that's not including all the advertisements and the printing of the films and all that other stuff that causes overhead but it did make money back if you want to consider that it was successful with international markets as well. So in the end. It was a hit even though it did not make very much money above what Columbia paid for certainly a big disappointment when you want to compare it to what e t took in. But despite all of that I do think that Starman as a movie, it's very underrated I think it's an overlooked gem by John. Carpenter fans. I. Feel like so many other of his genre films are picked out by genre. Lovers for instance, horror film fanatics really love obviously Halloween, the thing and some of his other films and a lot of his. Fans feel like this is much more of a mainstream or commercial type movie for him not necessarily much more virtuous movie definitely more of a crowd pleaser. So they tend to ride it a little bit more than some of his other films. Carpenters name is above the title when you buy it. So some of his fans may be disappointed seeing him take on such a light romantic film generally disregarded in his overall body of work has an autour but I feel that this definitely showcases John. Carpenter's strengths as a director as somebody WHO's committed. To the story and storytelling, he does tell a story quite well despite all of the contrivances and the shortcuts that he needs to take. You ultimately do come to care about these characters and you're interested in their plight enough to make it to the end, and that's why I will give starman three and a half stars out of four three, nine stars on ice into they do think this man is a good film and I definitely recommend it for people who like this kind of movie if you're a romantic comedy fan especially if You have an inkling toward science fiction. You definitely will get a lot of mileage out of Starman. Certainly, it's a movie I've seen quite a few over the years I introduced my wife to it for the purpose of this review she had never seen before and she came away. She's not a big sci-fi fan necessarily, but she came away really enjoying it as well. So three and a half stars out of four is what I think star earns. Now before I go I do have a few notes that I do want to talk about. Nine hundred eighty six, Michael Douglas did produce a TV show for ABC that was based on star man and actually was a sequel but much leader Starman had Robert Hayes in the star man role at set about fourteen years after the events of this movie and Feature Starman man who assumes that different body that's why it's Robert Hayes in not jeff bridges and we also beat his teenage son they're searching for the missing Jenny Hayden. It did only last one season however didn't find a mass audience, but he did find a cult audiences enough for them to have during the time that it was on. The air they met worth starman celebrations because they really did enjoy this premise at least at the time. It is beloved TV show for those people who took an in in the mid nineteen s Michael Douglas he enjoyed with John Carpenter did with Armand enough to ask him to direct usually fatal attraction, which would have been a definitely an interesting choice to helm that film but unfortunately, carpenter hated the script for fatal attraction called it a knockoff of play misty for me, which was coincidentally a film that was written by Star Man's Dean, Reisner back in the day for Clint Eastwood in the Early Nineteen Seventies. Instead one of the directors that carpenter replaced Onstar man replaced him on fatal attraction Adrian Lyne, the Gig and it became a huge success it twenty sixteen co-producer Michael. Douglas was still involved trying to make a remake of Star Matt. He developed a film with Sean Lee as the director in Irish I'm L. as the screenwriter. The new version promised to have this younger caste, but little has been heard of this project after its announcement in two thousand sixteen. Twenty eighteen though in the interviews Jeff Bridges revealed that he and Karen Allen had cussing coming back for his starman sequel independent of the one that Douglas was trying to do with Levy they were disappointed that they were not even asked to participate in that remake. You feel that they should come back to do another starman film. Certainly, that would be interesting for Starman fantasy I. I don't know if there are enough vance to justify the amount of money and time and effort to put into remain so it may never come about but I definitely would be interested in seeing it if it ever does. To be seen, I don't want to get my hopes up. Thank you so much for listening. Hope that you enjoy this retrospective look at starman. If you have your own thoughts on star mandate, you want to impart to me maybe something I missed or maybe something that you want to echo in terms of how I feel about this film, you can find my contact information that my website that's. Clips through Dot Net Q. Wip S. T. E. R. Dot, net I, e mail address least my twitter feed facebook pages scrammed any of those ways adequate to get in touch with me on any subject that you want as far as what I'm going to be talking about next week it's a film I actually mentioned during the body of this review. It's another movie that does get comparisons to et. Although it's much more of an independent film, definitely an Indie Film vibe not an easy to find. Nowadays, you might have to this. Ebay. For a copy of this or maybe check your local library. They might actually have it there because it's not an easy to find. At least here in twenty twenty, it called the brother from another planet written and directed and edited by John Sales who did nights guys that eventually became et and I will be talking about that which I haven't caught since I was in college and I was very much enamoured of the film at that time to watch it a few times the brother from another planet from nine hundred four until Dan, thank you so much for listening and joining me on his trip around the world.
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"Priests shoots vampire the Crotch like twelve. That's for sure well. Nobody acknowledged it. Guns are like you know. They distract the vampire they slow the vampire down muzzle. Go right for the CROTCH. It just reminded me though that Simpson's where they do Mister Burns Dracula and it's like Oh horrors give mistake leases like dad. That's growing I think of the line from that exact same episode where it's like No. I'm the head vampire master vampire bullshit. Totally CIDRE when I said you could kill him by sticking his Dick and shooting his day. It was a joke. A joke where we're getting to know each other padre. I'm talking. I'm talking about hard Dick Soviet talking about her all the time. All this shooting does lead to James was like hey use the steak him in the heart with the stack. And that's still really doesn't do much. I think around here. Daniel Baldwin is still pulling guys and vampires out because the sunlight and there's a moment where where Jim where James Woods is is being dragged by vampire. And it's like Oh my God. It's a ticking bomb. He's going to go out there and be exploded with all right. It's kind of bad as he rolls off at the last second. But he's stay. He stake in her as well. And it's really just like one ever yet. He's a maniac the way I understand it. It's a stake in your done. That's how I that's how it should be sure that's the way I do it. You one of those old fashioned garlic should hurt him. Aren't you know I think Vampires should be sparkly? They should have fun and vacations and I think they should go to school and get a diploma and when they fuck the bed breaks should be hipster. Vampires there should be a sub and vampires. There should be every kind of Vampire Saban dom definitely like it So yeah it. This all comes to nothing. Because they're like will FARC we didn't get all of them and now the Sun's going down uh-huh at according to rule number ten. You can't even kill a master at night. Okay why is that old priests try to high tail it? The master rises Yang valid. And again here's the thing he talks and he's talking a lot and he's got character with agency or he never talks at all. This half in half out is actually kind of bad. Yeah you're totally right. I mean here. They just took a load Jack. Exactly I also know. No deal with Our friend what's that Guy's name Mike? Something the Karate Dream Mike. Dexter no come on Eric. You know the guy that the the number two like Barnes my karate badboy boy Mike Barnes thanks vampires bad boy Mike Barnes. What did he showed up in this movie? That'd be pretty bad ass because Terry Silva could use a fucking little side you know. I'll tell you what he'd break brick. That's my you break fucking brick. I write padres time to release the special weapon. Ref Machos with us and get them physically fighting all of these vamp and we also have Tim Robbins saying Vampire Vampire. Yeah that Dude's definitely gonNA slice of Vampires via freaking them out Yeah so somewhere around here. Katrina finally fully turns into a Vampire Bites Daniel. Yeah they all kind of separate The the Padre jumps behind a store window thing. And it's kind of hanging out laying load James Woods gets knocked out by Valich and Daniel Baldwin finally succumbs to his vampire injuries. Thank God And so it's Kinda Great. I love this part of the movie. It's James Woods Hog tied to the front of a truck Not Too Shabby and this is when Dun Dun Dun Maximilian. Shell comes out. Oh yeah the cardinal himself as crooked and it's because Classic Vampire Selling Point Maximilian. Shell is getting on in years. You know more sunsets behind him then ahead of him and he wants to live forever forever so of course he does a deal with the vampire community ass and he mentioned how his faith has waned over the years. It's it's it's it's interesting and then and James would is called like a lone crusader and and this is part of the ritual to have like this one super believer that they would crucify on a burning cross. I don't know why it has to be a burning. Well you know because vampires are very showy. The answer I was I was my my attention was waning at this point and then it was a James Woods kitten crucified. Hold on but not before putting my phone island but not before saying that a valid here quote poll smoking fashion. Yeah thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen I'm getting more and more okay with this crucifixion as we go. Oh Yes light it up dude I like how reprehensible James Woods is in real life and as this character. There was a mention of his backstory which I thought was pretty fascinating that his parents were killed like his father was bitten by a vampire and his father turned and killed his mother and then he had to kill his father then ever since then he became a ward of the Vatican and was raised to become a master. Slay slay raised by the church. Man I don't WanNa be a word of the Vatican I'll tell you that much Absolutely not oh man. Oh man if they should've gotten him to be a special guest on Buffy fucking racist slayer there ever was out man. Here comes fucking Jack Crow. Buffy you're going to hate working with Jack Me Buffy Puffy can can you feel me can you? Can you feel and sixteen but come on your call right you? Good also keep a puck and Kenya away from me. Don't don't don't go back. Don't go back to Robert Deniro to stay here with me. Kendra apologies to enjoy that. Everything right it's all right. Are you in school?.
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"No carpenter. Just give me a goat. Actually doing it will be burned myself a really into this role. I used to do this all the time. Don't worry I'm ready for this. I mean like we said this is kind of Daniel Bolton's biggest role anyway. I can imagine him throwing himself into it again. It's carpenter James Woods. The known quantity totally So Woods and the Padre Padre get to this hotel. James Woods immediately. Hits this guy with the phone which is fucking great But this is where basically exploring the link between this dude. Valich is the Namion valley and Katrina. We see him bucket decapitate. This priest again pretty decent special effect. Yeah and this is when I start falling asleep to be honest. Well this is the mystery unfolding definitely the that is unfolding as valid is trying to find this special cross that was from Old Europe. That's now buried in the southwest in order to complete the ritual to make him like a day walker. An immortal vampire that is not affected by this fucking break. The Cross and half put half Europe half in fucking South America. Call it a day but it's a show us the people it's the thing. The thing is known was as smart as Stephen. Saint in the Catholic Church. No I don't think they had other things in mind at the 'cause I paid attention. So the the the cross it was used in the ceremony that turned. Valich from a a priest who was like working with the poor he became like a Bohemians. They say And and they tried to like it was like a botched exorcism and the early reverse X. Or something to that effect and they turned him into in doing this and it was a frame job. Because just because he was helping the poor They turned him into a vampire and this will turn him into the vamp like the best vampire. We'll right because he's a master who can also walk during the day. So essentially. He'll be unstoppable. It was just another whoopsie daisy by the Catholic church in a long line of would absolutely dude. I have to deal with the problem now. Let's not to think of what we did. Let's just do. What would cabinet? Is that right though that they say that they did this? Reverse exorcism on this. Because he was helping the poor yeah he became like Heat in that little Maximilian Shell thing. It becomes a revealed he was like he became. Bohemian and he was like I believe in all of you know God's children deserve everything like it was an equality guy in they're like well fuck that. Shit and they Put a detail right so valiquette was cool with like same sex marriage back that who knows. Listen listen listen anything resembling communist values. You get turned into a vampire that is rule number one rule number two. You molest kids. Use Sons of pitches. We are GONNA move you to a different church at. It's GonNa be really annoying and keep paying. You gotTA keep getting paid. What is Bohemian? Even mean is like always aligned to the HABSBURG crown checklist Avakian or is he just like a hip though. I think it means that that word that James Woods used earlier in the film six. Yeah Yikes so like now. They're they know what he's after so they have to find what he's where he's going in the pre black cross were also told is the the Bercy Cross. There's this other big scene where he aware of Alec actually gets the Bercy Cross. It's kind of hilarious. It's outside of looks like a Franciscan kind of monastery kind of thing. And it's all these vampires who were told our masters wake up and it's like six to eight different people men and women coming out of the dirt like with their eyes closed their magical man. I got one guy like with both eyes open. He's looking for. I worked broader. My mouth are horrible. I did it again. Laura Palmer this kind of reminded me of David Lynch ride like in the in the new twin peaks with those dirt Mun. Jackie is yet totally man. Getting late. Dude I love I honestly the scene of the vampires storming this monastery dude. These guys are like sitting ducks to these vampires. They're just you get a whole sequence of them like just being slade by these all these monks being thrown and ripped apart. It's not bad it's not bad there's one deed it's Kinda great 'cause there's one guy who's clearly just like pushed over but his robes like land on something that's on fire at this dude just starts cooking up this monks just on fire. It's all the pyrotechnic work in this movie phenomenal. It's pretty. It's a great man. It's a grade and the real problem with his movies. They're so cold on these footsteps for so long. Yes it is a lot of just playing catch up. I mean 'cause like when When the team gets to the monastery you know everybody's long gone so long gone that they're putting in the sound of like flies buzzing around so these dudes are now just like rotting. That's how long they're byline these vampires the whole trying to get Laura Palmer to like see what vallecas up to through the psychic link. They see like oh he's GonNa get the cross because there's the map and he kills Father Malina so then we just go to a church and that Father Molina presided over. And it's just like talk. Newest state trooper just feels like padding. Yeah this this cop character in that priests in that priests church is hilarious because James. Woods is like yeah. We're going around the country investigating hate crimes on Catholic people. Do you mean that. They're doing the heat backwards right. That's okay yeah go this way. It's kind of a funny exchange though because the COP is like. Oh now wait a second all right any new information you get. You'RE GONNA share it with US right. James Woods is like yeah because they mistake him for like fed. I guess now he's he's straight up says he's working for the Catholic Church. It is amazing. Like all right. This way worked for the Catholic Church. I don't know man. How about the fucking federal government steps in the Catholic Church? Okay cool wait outside fuck head get the fuck Outta here crash. A Sheriff I. Do you have any quote Unquote Vampires? You need me to kill you know. We got a little bit of payments to me if you had some quote Unquote Vampires de ray rent stabilized. Apartments could take care of those quarter-on-quarter Vampires. You Know Kevin. You just reminded me. There is a thing in that opening motel scene. Where Mark Boone Junior and some other dude are trying to impress the sex workers By saying that their vampire hunters and it brought to mind like this is still a world where vampires or not a known thing right yes it is still a mystery kind of thing so I feel like why are they telling people 'cause well it'd be let's be honest. The Catholic Church doesn't keep its about shut leaks out before this is Iraq. Yeah they were also getting their rocks off and I feel like it's like whatever like we tell we've stepped on the Moon. Man Yes share. That's true so it. So this other padre at this dude from a hell on wheels Roy a favorite. Yes Guinea course. My my absolute favorite. This guy was in late seat. What was the actor's name again to ten Guinea? Yes that might be a slur but yes we we accept it played in Helen Wheels. He didn't really emerge towards the later seasons. I think like three through five or so where he kinda played like a check to Sir Thomas Durant of course. Of course Thomas. Durant is doing the expansion out west making the railroad. The thing is this guy is doing it from the other way. And this when the show finally decides to address the whole Chinese labor of creating the the Railroad. It took them three seasons to address that. Yeah Yeah I well. We're not GONNA get a four season. So why don't we do something worth a damn like? The first two seasons are show was very much like were in Kansas. Okay we're just hanging out cans Gotcha Gotcha Gotcha this guy. A player in one of my favorite law and orders. He's one of those guys who killed his wife His like his girlfriend her daughter and their employer and then like act like seduced. Everybody like the not his lawyer the jury and everybody like because he's such a nice guy really. It's a really good episode. If you can find it it's it's a og law and order Geelani Order. Love me some. Ojea law and order. Ooh Oh wow you speak in vampires. I just noticed. In Twenty Sixteen. There was a show that started. Which according to this is how wheels and now. It's a show called Van helsing. Oh yes there you gotta shorter. Yeah I believe. It's on the SCIFI network. People love shows that like nobody watches? But if you say it in a room with more than one hundred People Twenty Hulu. Hey you know what? Oh Yeah Vanessa. Helsing distant relative of famous vampire. Hunter Abraham van helsing. Oh so it's like modern day. Oh I don't know everybody. I'm looking at this picture dude. With Horn people are tweeting. You right now in real time by arts. What wait for. She's three. It gets really good. Sure it's sexy is fuck folks from these promo photos. Steam punk kitties out is it. Steam pockets deemed bug. I'm in I might be. It looks kind of a little actually so I don't even know like they kind of just show up at this town. They lay siege on this town That's where he he has taken the large cross to do the ritual. San Tiago is the name of the town and I guess I guess they. It's actually another interesting thing that I wish I could see is they realize like the whole town is gone. And they're either dead or have been turned into Vampires and James. Woods is basically like all right so you know he has been working on this for a long time. He's been working on taking out this town bit by bit. So he's got this like entire town as its home base kind of all interesting. Shit. I'd Rather Watch. Yes exactly like they come. Apparently this is a movie where right before it started. They slashed the budget by two thirds. So that probably has something to do with it. Yeah that's a good call. I didn't read it. That's unfortunate but the funny thing is even for a slashed budget. I mean thankfully. They kept so much of it in you know. Just the production value of the special effects goes don't look cheap carpenter doesn't do movies that look cheap. I mean like find me one like on any budget. He'll find to make it look like something goes the. Mars actually is probably the worst. It's the most. Cgi you see him us. I think I will say though that I think The what the Fuck. The Twenty ten movie award. The Ward is cheap. Only the sense of like you can tell by like the quality of the digital camera that he's using to make the movie. Looks very cheap. Know what Netflix. Gift John. Carpenter movie if fucking does make a fucking movie. I don't know man. I saw him in concert which ruled by the way. I think he's just kind of happy smoking pot with his son he might very music and just doesn't WanNa do shit. There might be. Yeah I totally I. Totally feel. His quote was when The the new Halloween came out. And they're like Oh. Are you excited about this new Halloween Blizzard? I'm excited that. They paid me like they consulted him. But it wasn't very much like yeah. I get consulted because they get fucking paid and that's cool because I'm John Carpenter. I'm one hundred years old and I'm just hanging out well back to nine hundred ninety eight So John Just about to sign contract over for a seventy million dollars to make this vampire movie with Alec Baldwin Right. Yeah Daniel Baldwin. Yeah Man. I love album. Yeah no great. What you're saying Alec do right. Yeah we're we're doing the movie with Baldwin Mary to the mobs Alec Baldwin Right Yeah. Mojo technically can't get mad at me because I said a Baldwin was circling the role So they're gearing up to take this down this town of goons they realize the safest place all these vampires to be sleeping during the days in this jail which I guess has like multiple floors below it or all. The cells are something that we really don't see a lot of this jail. There's a lot of elevator business and I'm like what? What are we spending so much time on this elevator? Down Point for me a lot to fuck this whole we gotta do this. Elevator Action Bullshit. Great game totally. Great Game But this is I noticed it at the beginning of the movie but this is where I finally made the note about it. Dudes James Woods fucking fake as fuck crossbow..
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"All corrupt cops. You know James Woods and a GAL era Daniel Balden tried to get in here and save. The day doesn't really work out so well Other they share at this point also gets only bitten by Thomas Griffith He gets her on the thigh there. It's a very sexual seen all big time. Dude and after you know a couple of weeks ago with Stuart Townsend and possibly one of those unsexy vampires of all time. I was pretty okay with this. I was like it's a vampire. Were doing like a oral sex nod here you know yes. She knew that fucking James Woods wasn't going to be doing this yet. Oh no dude. That's not that's not for guys like James. With if you know what I mean what Daniel Baldwin might do it. He was like the type to me absolutely and good for him. Nice so yes so Crow Jack Crows the crow. Tom Cervo Joel along with Montoya and Katrina Escape. Don't by the way don't forget gypsy. And Cam don't call. Yeah so they escape from from this dude he kinda like tries to latch onto the car and Daniel Baldwin shoots him in the face which is pretty great And then I think the car accident like immediately so like the next day. It's like the sun's up there walking down the street and it's like a loan desert highway and it's too dirtbags and a pretty lady walking down the street like this is a fucking Rob Zombie movie. It is very well because they take Shirley James Woods wants to take her. He knows she's been bit but she's got a sex she got any says it's like really quickly as he should have a second. Click with a vampire. We gotta get. What what what. Yes so the lore here right and I guess this is this is sort of. I guess throughout most Vampire Lords that in some way. If you're doing vampire lore in where there there is like a master vampire head vampire the other underlings ours like psychically linked or either that or like emotionally linked or something. So yeah I thought this was kind of a cool thing. Like he can track him through her connection with the master vampire and that plays into the hall talking about the master ship before. I read that on Wikipedia. They mentioned in the book. The differences between Vampires Doll Vampire dollar sign and is. There's like a vampire detector in the book and I feel like this is much more in line with Lord to have it be a psychic connection. A vampire detector like device or like. It's a person it's satellites some type of Egon. Shit outfoxed Foxwood. You'd get some doctor Spangler on the case. This town is gone after the slaughter. This town has got to be ray like there's nothing left. They killed all the hookers in like a fifty mile range. I would say so. You know it's like the economy town seems I get. What else is there? Other than the sun. God Motel and dirt. I mean for a town of Thirty People Kevin. Maybe that's all you need to stay afloat. I suppose yeah but you're right. I think well they do. James Woods like sees the news report later. Or maybe it's Daniel Baldwin's watching TV and it's like yet. Nineteen people were killed and oh by the way they were all decapitated. The motel was burned to the ground. This would be national news. Yeah yeah everybody would be hearing about this So yeah the they got to figure out how to get back on the road Jack is respecting that. They've been set up in some way Because he says you know because The the master. This dude knows he's like Oh. Hello Mr Jack Crow and you know as like is this motherfucker knew my name knew we were going to be so on and so forth so what they do to get back on. The road is steal a car from Frank. Darabont everybody's gotTa Sarah Nice. I asked the guy. Yeah that's amazing I do. I do like this scene of just stealing this dudes Cadillac man. She's two of walking dead scripture in neck. Give it back tired of that. But I'm GonNa take all the money going to take all the money created by dude. What a credit absolutely and that's still on the air. I was thinking about that the other day for some reason or another but it's shocking to me that that shows Dhillon and none of us are watching it right. Gave after like whenever The MOM died. I was done. You know what everybody. I came to this party with his left. So I'm good. Oh move friends. Who did I have been off it for the better part of a decade it whenever the Nagin seasonable that when I stopped. Yeah Oh so you saw Jeffrey Dean. Morgan Oh yeah I did too? Oh Yeah you guys blew right past me So yeah so they they go back to the motel and Daniel Baldwin is basically assigned to get this woman to safety. Go into hiding or whatever while James Woods like takes care of the scene so there's definitely a montage and again great effects here of James Woods stake in hearts. Cutoff mark. Boone Juniors had now. Here's a question though. 'cause I just I don't know if it's because I've seen this movie so many times or if it happened. Someplace else has embarked Putin junior been decapitated and other Phillips. No I mean. I'm sure I'm not gonNA take the money on redoing New Jersey gambling on that. I'm not going to gamble on it. But I'd fair enough. I think that might be. How sons of anarchy ends may be I. Do I love that? There's this thing because like when they split and he goes Daniel Baumann you take it back to the hotel. I gotTa Take Care of the scene Blah Blah Blah and like Daniel Baldwin's like. Hey Man Vampire rule number seven you never take care of all you never. You never bury a team by yourself and it's like can you tell me what these vampire rules are. That'd be helpful very much. That is a thing that I i. It's actually always annoyed me with this movie because it annoys me in any movie. Where there's some character has a philosophy. That's a bunch of rules or whatever the fuck and you're just like throwing those rule rule number two eight three never you know and this. It's fucking littered throughout this movie. It means absolutely nothing like he could say. Hey Man we shouldn't bury this team. You should bear the team by yourself. You know they were my teammates. Do or whatever the fuck but yeah vampire rule number seven never been but I hate that shit into eventually we get like vampire rule number one and it's like That's the things you don't know the other ones I think it's like one seven and one is like. Oh if your teammate gets bitten you have to kill them or whatever and right. There's a whole part of this movie where Daniel Baldwin does get bitten and just hides it. So he's violating rule number one which is also a thing that happens a ton in Zombie. Yes and that was another thing that made me feel like this was like a real weird half-and-half kind of thing. I will say I'd like that. They don't explain stuff like him. Cutting the heads off and burying them that specific way because this could have gone exposition town really quick. That's very true. And they do not explain much. I kind of prefer that that to them over because they were never. I don't think they're ever going to hit the juicy middle. I think it was either GonNa be way too much or what way too little. I agree with that. 'cause you you're dropped right into the action in this movie and we. Canada's pick it up as you go so it's it's it comes to it even though yeah slow the fuck down sooner. Well that's the thing is once once this. I did the first twenty five minutes or whatever are fine. It's like and it does feel dusk-to-dawn like stealing cars and shit and it's like okay and then like the middle of this movie soggy and the N. doesn't even actually bring it back up that much. I kinda don't but we'll we'll get there. I look at this Alec Baldwin has to go back to check yo which Baldwin. Oh Shit no Katrina I. Actually I will feel the Baldwin test that was Baldwin Rule Number. One all right. Fuck out at his diner. Now here's the thing if you make a mistake one of the Prime Baldwin's you gotta drink a beer. If you mistake us for Adam Baldwin you gotta take a shot just Baldwin was in firefly where you're drinking Hobo. Also Steve Wait a way to have Alec Baldwin say. Here's the thing. Oh yeah here. Do you think Danielle what you need to do. Is Watch Human Centipede Phenomenal Movie Daniel? It's kind of shocking. Daniel Baldwin escaped being in any of those movies because the kids just see him being like the guy or you know actually the other thing you'd be swallowing shit at the bag along Daniel Baldwin dudes as a like a shitty detective in a later saw sequel. Definitely you league. Kind OF SURPRISE. That did not come. They have to be releasing that that will that saw movies released directly right either. It looks like he made them saw themselves. Well they are pulled that shit they all they already got the Lesser Walberg to be in the Yeah yeah that's true. You can't have an entire franchise populated by Shitty brothers. So Donnie yes Donnie Wahlberg a cop and a bunch of them Steve. Tear to your thing though. I don't know what the situation is with the Chris Rock movie. That's what you're talking wondering if they're gonNA pull it or just. Vod It. I this is anybody know what the original release date was supposed to be all. That's cooked yeah I feel I think I heard something about getting push. I saw the trailer in front of The invisible man. It was the first time I've seen it and I gotta say it kind of interesting to know there was a trailer. It's pretty cool frequent. Yes spiral Eric's checkout. It's very not giving too much away which I was pretty surprised about so James Woods goes to visit with the Catholic Church. He Visits Maximilian. Shell and I have to admit surreal stupidity here at the beginning. When they're you know in the opening credits John Carpenter's vampires. It's James Woods it's Daniel Balden Shirley and then it's end Maximilian. Shell and I'm like. Oh Wow they got the guy. The Guy who played knows Farrah to back. That's pretty auto. That guy died in nineteen thirty six. Max Schreck Yeah. He was does with his movie. He's I was excited for Max. Meili million schnell being in this because of course of his great performance in the Blue Max. I believe I'm right about that. Maybe I'm wrong but it wasn't. He also in deep impact previous up he was was he definitely has. What is the the blue? What the Blue Max. It's a a war one drama with James Mason and a bunch of other people. It's really do. I said Lee do like James Mason movies..
"john carpenter" Discussed on We Hate Movies
"Junior farts playing Jay. Kay He fights it looks at the couch. What you don't like philophical. Some days I wipe off the farts some days. I went off to come and the blood dude couch driver at an I love it. We got of course Sheryl Lee Laura Palmer herself as in this movie. It's hilarious because I was so excited to see her in a non ten eight grill literally. Not Be dead as the COOLEST ETHAN. Li- like she's like not alive for more than five seconds the dispel and she's also pretty much comatose and weird throughout the entire thing anyway. Yeah John this is Cheryl's agent. Yeah she has to be dead. Play living person. It's just that she's technically dead in the winter's bone you don't know that but you know it's in the script she is. Katrina one of the prostitutes servicing. The party's she's of course. You know going straight for James Woods I mean. That's that's where you have to go in that scenario Daniel Baldwin over Shang soon actually if I sank soon or like the padre see if he's a game or at heartache heartache. I'd rather get fucked by Daniel Baldwin. James would absolutely yeah sure. I agree with James. Woods is fucking Yellow S. T. This movie to would be grateful. Vp Thankful pudge thing. Yeah I mean. That is kind of comforting. Could be that small spoon. Were really opening it up to the floor. Then Mark Boone. Junior over the two of them. I think the thing is like I would like to hear Mark Boone. Junior's Adventures I. I don't know if being slammed by. Maybe maybe if he's from behind him on top Baldwin on top. Maybe I want this bill next day with Mark Boone. Junior I guess is what I'm going for. Okay I think the thing is the fantasy should be we could just hang out with Mark Okay and nobody has to fuck anybody. Can I fuck yes? You can fuck all thank you. The master comes in. He starts laying waste to people Mark Boone. Junior is the first ago in spectacular fashion. The best movie. I think it is great. There's a knock at the door and everybody's like oh we're out of beer and he's like no. I've got beer and he he gets up and opens the door. This dude cut some fucking scrotum throat and couldn't believe it. His body just falls apart. It is exquisite cutting demonic sweet. This dudes laying waste everybody. Another great kill though. I have to say I've never seen this happen at a vampire movie. The master himself takes a shotgun and shoots the padron the throw dude. It's fantastic. That's really something I guess. It's to make him commit suicide. Send Him to Hell Dude. Absolutely now Thomas Ian Griffith in this movie is mostly without dialogue. But I feel like this must be like what he considers his the biggest part of his career. You think so overcrowded. Kid You know karate kid three three excuse bad boy Mike. Barnes was kind of jockeying for the top slot in the in the baddie category. In that I just feel like this movies. Like he's like okay. You did karate kid part three now. You really fucking break into your work with John Carpenter. You're playing the master vampire named Yawn. Valid or whatever apparently is the original. Vampire Dracula doesn't didn't exist. But we all know Dracula exists but you know. Here's the thing I do appreciate This movie not bothering with the D word agreement but then why set him that the same with point in history like thirteen hundreds medieval Europe. Its Steam Kirk correct. Like Vampire Dracula Anyway. But they're also rewriting dracula like vampire All over the place like clearly wants to make his own thing. It should have been like. Oh Yeah Vampires. The day started in the nineteen seventies. A guy at a t shirt SERPICO was the first There was a there was a dude who did some bad lewd bathroom and fucking bit this lady's neck and it was all downhill from there. If you don't suck her blood how do we know we can trust you? Exact.
"john carpenter" Discussed on We Hate Movies
"So this team is they're hunting down nest of goons as they're calling them looking for the master and you see the whole like process here it is. It's a fun way of hunting vamps. You know they're like dragging him out into the sunlight and it is. It's fun but you know it's it's Kinda horrific in that regard because you're looking for the master and got a house Assab this. It's like dude. Come on I want to get dom here. I WANNA get masturbate. Her out here my God but I do like I do like the idea of shooting these vampires with arrows that have this retractable like wire. That is attached Daniel Baldwin's pickup truck and he liked backs up and reverse and brings them out into the sunlight and they they exploded in quite a fashion Andrew. The James Woods even says crispy critters he does. Oh Man I I did light up at that crispy. Critters line Here's an idea for it makes sense the ideas you go in you hook them and like some as a truck usually it's Daniel Baldwin. Let's go fucking shed and they they drag him out and they burn. They burn hilariously. Why not burn the house down? That's the move and then then what's going to happen. They can't go anywhere it's fucking. Gm Do think David Koresh was a vampire absolutely and the ATF is a secret like vampire hunting organization. That was one of the disappointing parts about that. Paramount Network mini series Starring Taylor Kitsch. Is they left out? All the parts of David. Koresh being a vampire that's just weaken the story yeah he needed virginal blood. They both called a bunch of women their brides. So yeah absolutely true. Chris One thing we do have to mention So James Woods is whatever the Jack Crow but dude Daniel Baldwin playing modern. Toya Kuni Mon Mon Toya Look I kept thinking about Al Pacino. Even though that's Tony Montana but still but I don't know what fucking Bacon Grease US put in his hair. This is jet black which is not the Daniel Baldwin. I know and Love I get from homicide but you know like you know he just not. It's IT'S A bad. Look I think Steve. It's always Bacon Grease. It's actually does for you one for me one for you. He's a scooping. Bacon grease out of a pair. I prepared this Bacon while I bathed advocating. I fucking love about fucking Montoya is that he has a fucking customer service. Ed said on the silly on his huge Ed AMMO party. This this little heads that is hanging on by a thread So did you put a heavy load in your dryer and might have done it though. You know what we're going to send out a technician a hold on. I've got a vampire on line. Three burn motherfucker bird you calling about maytag repair or vampire-hunting. Please press too hard times out here. I have to have two jobs. It takes data. Do this dragon. These vampires could unplug it. I'm going to hang up if you re plug it back in or else we've got nothing to talk about. Look you put the dishwasher liquid in the little space. You don't drizzle it all over issues. That's not how it works but I can't. I can't stress. This enough garbage goes in the garbage. I had a customer service thing. I was ordering a bookshelf from website. I'M NOT GONNA name. What through four different variations. A key kept coming in wrong. I they sent me the wrong pieces and they say the wrong bookshelf. Then they sent me a metal great for no reason to burn. Did you have to send any of this back? I through? They were cool enough. They're like just throw it away. Okay great exactly so but like the La- every time you call. It's very like sweet midwestern woman like oh my goodness sir. That's terrible. How did that happen? That's ridiculous and the last one I got was this guy and his Latin. I'm fucking at the end of it. Here o'memory refunded this fucking things and I don't blow up when customer service people know about doing that at the time. I'm just explaining but I'm pretty heated and I'm like listen money back that a guy sure that's why I this sounds like something out of a movie I gotta get..
"john carpenter" Discussed on We Hate Movies
"We all wanted to Vegas Jersey. Quick Story This guy new in a high school did not like him. His father worked with my mom his father doctors over for you. Dr Kids so I find out what maybe five years ago for some reason. We're talking about this guy. So what what what's going on with What's his name? You know the sun is like Oh yeah. He had to sell his beach house in his car because he got into online gambling. And he like he thought he was going to be like the no the guy with the shades and the poker tournament. Oh man it's a bad problem especially I I can imagine right now. People like well. That's how I could make money and it's like dude. Do not fuck with the online gambling. You could be the next What's his name? The new Daniel Grou new. What is that guy? He's a professional poker player shades cabin. They're all wearing shades. So we start at a as James Woods puts it a New Mexico shithole right and he's wearing shades because he's a professional vampire hunter and how. I would always love to be introduced in a motion picture Daniel Baldwin taking a Piss on the side of the road another IMDB Trivia. Did you hear that you hear this? You see this this. It's the street. They Alec Baldwin took this role and then Brat for a little while and then it was like oh. I can't do it. Why don't you cast Daniel Ball? I would say I would say what happened. Probably was a junk carpenter got Daniel Baldwin and just act like Alec Yes just do an impression of Alec. That's the best thing you can do that. Well that's what that's what life told him to do. Not John Carpenter true but I don't think it's good anywhere else here. It is while he was in now since we did death wish for the crackdown. I watched that Charles Bronson impersonators movie. Death kiss which is a loose sequel to the death wish franchise and Journal Baldwin. Claes like the man cow. Ask Radio DJ talking about the scum of the street whatever it is straight up just an Alec Baldwin impression. That's I mean it's weird because like their brothers so like sure they might sound a little the same. I don't even Baldwin. He's different and Billy Baldwin. I feel like Daniel is the one that because he looks the most sort of like Alec or at least like rotund Alec Bright like it it could you say that again a rotund. Alex I love. Well he was the one that The only clone of Al that they kept. Yes the rest of them they had to go. You know they're in the jars and everything. Well he even has the same like gate that alley like like I always. I didn't really notice is with Alec Baldwin. Until thirty rock because so much of that show was like walk and talk like the way Alec Baldwin kind of carries himself. Daniel Baldwin carries himself exactly the same way in this movie and like it's because he's he plays the same kind of characters like Billy Baldwin was always like the hunk of the Baldwin's if you will then you got your your Stephen Baldwin. He did seem like he was always like the young Baldwin but also with like do cool trying to be the cool Baldwin again right by Odom Bio Dome for sure. What's The Lord? Jesus Christ was he the only one who tried to be funny. I think that's true too. Yeah I think he's funny Baldwin. Do you think at some point in the nineteen eighties. Adam Baldwin was at a diner and then like all four Baldwin brothers showed up like hey man wrong name wrong decade wrong. Diner kicked him out could come. You GotTa Patch me in you got with you guys come on. I would love to see like a Baldwin Battle Royale other way. Alec is Pretty Funny Right. We were just talking about thirty rock. He's very funny. Yeah that sort of came later though for him it was like that was like his is turn so yeah. I mean he's I will say this really quickly. He's very funny in Jonathan Demme's married to the mob and also beetlejuice is pretty comedic. That's fair that's true. I'm wrong about that. No but you are right. Those those roles for Alibaba were few and far between earlier on and now. It's kind of like well now. It's just fucking donald trump on us and they were second to the fact that he was a hunk like even Baldwin is not a hunk but alex was a fucking hunk. Oh yes live luck in God isolate that audience. I mean have you seen Working Girls Ladies and Gentlemen Ladies and gentlemen have you seen work. No I haven't trump your honk wise. Billy Baldwin was like a model a different type of hung. That's like the slender model. God and Alec is like you want a big guide. Bob You or whatever get bumped by a slim guy dude and also billy Baldwin. Didn't get a good. I'm trying to think of movies. Like other than sliver. And then he got good in the squid and the whale. He's got backdraft which I think is a tuned and both of those. Stay to fucking Cindy Crawford and that one movie fair fair game my God. I watched that a lot as a young young man. You know. Here's a little bit of a tidbit did you know. That's that is a based on the same book as Cobra. I yeah wait. What movies based on Air Game is that right? Yeah Billy Baldwin. Cutting pizza with scissors is my question. And Cindy Crawford is the pizza so there. Scumbag vampire hunters. There's a ton of them in the beginning of this movie. It's a real team here and this is it's a thing where it's like. I get it economical storytelling. You want a pair this team down but it would be rad to have like some kind of Prequel of this movie where these guys are going around killing people especially very entertaining in these early scenes. A very young Mark Boone. Junior what's weird. It's because they're not. Nobody's you know what I mean like the cast people here. One of the guys is the doodoo played. Shang soon in mortal Kombat was also awesome. I feel like I've carbon calls even if it's like low pay like you you get in there. Oh yeah no doubt about it. John Carpenter as me. It'd be a movie I'll be there yesterday This is a dark time for carpenter which I guess sort of still is ads really truly lifted. I was I was looking at that myself. Actually this is it is right after escape from La Is when he does this and after. I still like escape from La. I'm kind of a contrarian in that regard but after that he's he doesn't really have much right. You Got Ghosts of Mars bad the ward which I straight up turned off your. I heard nothing but bad things I didn't go in for. I could yeah. I'm not crazy about the war but I do. Kinda like Osa really. Yeah you know. So much of that was the fucking heinous soundtrack. Well Yo you have to get a fucking this. Is The carpenter FARC Guitar era? I WANNA give nuts. I'm sorry because it starts in in the mouth of madness that also has a far guitar. But it's a little better than those in. The Madness was better when I re watched it. Pretty recently added a good enough. I think that's I think his best movie of the nineties because he did that right before escape from L. A. or no sorry escape from La Ninety-six village of the damned ninety five. Not a good movie Though yes absolutely In the mouth of madness and then you can catch this on a shudder. I think it's kind of. It's like half worth your time. Bodybags exact. Its exactly half worth your time. Yeah but so much of it I think is carpenter acting in. The movie is like the crypt keeper surrogate kind of character. Oh and then. Also Jesus can't forget. Nineteen Ninety two is a definite state memoirs in invisible man..
"john carpenter" Discussed on We Hate Movies
"This week on the program has a film about. The undead smelled this much like stale beer. It's John Carpenter's vampires. I'm Andrew Jackson Stephen Sadek Eric Cisco Chris Cabin and we hate movies L. Everyone welcome to we hate movies. Thank you for tuning in as always. That's right John Carpenter's vampires from nineteen ninety eight directed by Preston sturges. Oh wait so John Carpenter. I was the one he did. After the. What the Gulliver's travels Preston sturges follow up. It was fun. It was the follow up to gullivers travel ties into our Patriot episode this month which is going to be on the thing another. John Carpenter a better John Carpenter film. Yeah absolutely which about being terrified about catching something. That'll be just in time for Halloween. I mean vampirism is also something that's like Oh am I going to catch it and it's like I wish that was the pandemic right now because I already can't go outside and the daylight share fucking you know might as well have a nice ravenous nightlife like a vampire would then. You're a sexy person for the rest of your life first of all. I've never been a sexy person so I think becoming a vampire would make me sexy life changing and death changing is what you have to become an expert in capes. Yeah like you need to know which one for which kind of night. It's it's a lot of stuff to although these are terribly sexy. Well that's the thing about this movie and why I will say a print i. I didn't see this in the theaters but I have seen this movie. Probably close to twenty times. Because I can't remember. It was a thing where I had it on like the early days a DVD or if it was like taped off of HBO or something this was a big TBS TNT here. I remember that Song this movie. Somehow I've never last night to change opinion. You're never got into it. I never saw it in full. I only saw parts of it and then are watching today. I realized why because I had to bail. Because a really drags at a certain point. Yeah and for a movie. That's a hundred and eight minutes to that's unfortunate because it's such a contained story but you know it's very simple like we have to do this before this time and then that's it it's GonNa be like we are dragging ass. I will say I wasn't the one thing about this movie is. I actually was never bored. I this movie does not bore me. It's just stupid as all hell by the hair dye. Well also I mean it's Tommasi in Griffith. Talking yes transient. I just look at him. Chris I want to run something by you. I wrote down in my notes. I came up with an alternate title for this from Dusk. Till don't I think we should workshop at a little bit but I think it's a good starting place is I'm GonNa crack a beer. It's the apocalypse gus. This we should start drinking on the air. You're right Oh already drinking. I've been drinking This owes a lot to do from dusk till dawn. That's a really good point. There's no doubt about it. I mean it's like what I was GonNa say was it's Oh why kind of appeal to me is because I don't think I saw from dust on until much later that's the but it's a movie where I was just so fascinated by scumbag vampire. Yeah because that's what this is. These are scumbag vampire hunters hunting scumbag vampire look the see the script and move. It was supposed to be filmed in. Nineteen ninety-four Industrial Donald. Supposed to come out the same time but there was fucking four years of negotiations between James Woods and Daniel Baldwin about gets to say bitch the most. It went on for four years. And they're like we're going to top it out at seven hundred You meet Jimmy. I need I need to take the Crown Jimmy idea. Here's the thing though about that car because Steve. You mentioned something similar yesterday when you're watching it about them saying bitch all the time so I was. I'm Bitch Watch when was screening at today. The first bitch does not happen until like fifty two minutes into the movie but from there have Occa- you get a fucking plug from the dam. And the weirdest thing is I think that carpenter is a misogynistic director. Like he's do director in terms of like he's done movies that are mostly centered around man Cetera. But like women are either like done justice or not. But like it's not like this is like a straight up misogynistic vampire movie but why that is though is a damn quits. Well yeah but I think what they're doing here is like oh it's fine because she's a monster or but then the thing is the way to fix that part of this movie. Is You make this priest character. The second priest he needs to be a woman. It's a nun and now we're doing something sure. Yeah that's a good call. What is a super none who could hold the screen like Tim? Guinea though Bayou Back Theory by the way folks I went on a week a pedia this and there was a little thing about this movie was almost and I think this was like when carpenter wasn't involved but it was almost dolph lundgren with Willem Defoe as possibly the vampire banner movie up at a movie better movie..
The Monster Movie Hall of Fame and 'The Invisible Man'
"Later in the show. I'll have an interview with Lebron L. The writer director of the new updated edition of the invisible man. A movie that shifts the perspective of the classic horror movie to the victim in this case played by the Amazing Elizabeth Moss when Elsa Clever Jonah craftsman and we had a fun chat about how he's reinventing the work of the historic universal monster movies and some of his aides filmaker. Heroes like James Cameron and Paul Hogan and John Carpenter but I I am joined by ringer contributor and one of the best film minds around Adam Neiman. Thanks for joining me Adam. Thanks for having me Adam. We're here to build another wing in the movie hall of fame. Today we said post and beam on the monster movie hall of fame. Now you know monster. Movies are tricky because there are two distinctions between them. One is your classical scare movie that enrapture audiences but maybe doesn't really mean very much and then. The other is the load-bearing bearing metaphorical monster that communicate something to the world about maybe it's ills or human psychology or things of that nature I assume that you are more fan of the latter. But May maybe that's not the case. I think I'm a fan of the ladder when it's less calculated You know the the joke I liked to tell his one day. Someone's GonNa make really good specific movie about a social problem like documentary and then at a press conference the director. She's going to be like this movie's a metaphor for zombies and just waiting for someone to do but I mean I think that in the last couple years because you have some like Jordan. Peele who has spoken not in terms of monster movies but in terms of horror movies. He's talked about you. Know his office for those social thrillers or Social Horror Movies and the metaphorical dimension to them. And so you know because monsters are a subset of horror movies as you say a delivery device for for scares those streams often do cross but yeah. I think some of the best monster movies of all time are definitely ones where monsters represent something whether it's something inside or outside society or something inside or outside people but I'm also just a a big fan of movies. Where like spooky things jump out at people in eat them? So it's a IT'S A. It's a fine balance before we get started on constructing this this list that we've put together here. Do you remember your first monster movie experience at the movie. That felt like a monster movie to me and I mean it it is a monster is when Pinocchio gets swallowed by the whale. Oh yeah which is. Obviously you know I mean there's a biblical reference there to to Joan in the whale and it's You know like for for for kids. Who Who who see Pinocchio? That whale is just nightmarish and terrifying and and gigantic. I mean my dad. I think that's the first movie he ever told you to. Took me to it. Just absolutely scared the hell out of me that and the giant squid in Twenty Thousand Leagues under the Sea. Same thing oh great both Some Disney spun con there. Well done by in and and you. Well I'm thinking about Pinocchio as you say it and the thing that scared me more than the whale is the sequence in which the boys turn into donkeys boys which is just absolutely disturbing and also kind of metaphorical in its way Not to put too fine a parasite point on it I'm trying to think of my first true scary movie experience. I feel like what I got two young Frankenstein before I got to Frankenstein in. It's funny. How when something like that happens how it can obscure your relationship to movies and I think it actually made me Not so much scared movie theaters but just just sort of happy and smiling and laughing. I tend to laugh at horror movies and monster movies because I get kind of perverse thrill out of them and I so I if young Frankenstein. Ken Count that would be. That would be my number one. I mean obviously. I saw a bunch movies that we'll talk about here on this list that a very young age. And maybe that's an opportunity to just go right into it. So here's what we're going to do. We'RE GOING TO GO CHRONOLOGICALLY. So there's a long history. I would say monster. Movies are essentially as old as movies themselves. So we're going to try to walk through. Essentially I don't know eighty ninety years of movie history and try to capture. What are the absolute most representative interesting compelling fascinating monster movies ever made and the monsters? I think the conversation should really be about the monsters inside of the movies and why they're so effective as devices for either sending those messages or just scaring the shit out of us. So you chosen five. I've chosen five. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA Ariffin vamp little bit. Why don't you give me your first pick going all the way back to the nineteen thirties? Sure and you know it's interesting because now when we've got it arranged chronologically we've got this this interesting blindspot which. Kinda be filled in as we go along. Which is we've both bypassed. The true initial cohort of Universal Monster. Movies right the very late twenties very early thirties because the first movie on my list is King Kong. So I have bypassed Dracula Frankenstein you know bride of Frankenstein Which are all these enduring literary properties that have been made and remade for a long time and I think the thing about King Kong. It just feels like the primal scene for me of monster as spectacle because he's not human sized right. He's not an actor costume he's not You know someone doing an accent or wearing makeup. He's a special effects creation and the thing about the original King Kong. Every time I watch it is. It is just so spectacular visually. In an analog era. You know the the integration of those stop motion special effects into old sets and the exaggerated camera angles on the actors and just the the surrealism of it. I've read that. The actual surrealists the the practicing artists within that within that movement re huge fans of King Kong for one thing. 'cause monster just keeps changing size. You know it's inconsistent it's inconsistent but it's also just stunning because from scene to scene you know when he's just represented by giant hander giants foot or the close ups on the is and then you can also still cut backing these establishing shots and seeing him in these different environments and. I think it's the way also that it goes from this primal island to this urban city. The monster in his home context. And then sort of you know thrashing around in the middle of maternity causing chaos. It's just like the deepest the deepest core horror fantasy. You know that that that I can think of I. I just think it's absolutely astonishing and I never tire of watching it. It's funny I think a lot of the monsters on our list Get repeated and reused and re contextualize over and over again the thing with King Kong is is the actual character of King Kong comes up over and over and over and over again. We're getting another King Kong movie this year. And for whatever reason I would say between King Kong and Godzilla. Those are really the only two significant monsters that we never tire of somehow. That don't don't expire. You know I think that the idea behind what King Kong represents and there's obviously been an extraordinary amount of both academic critical just fun writing about What happens when colonialists enter a less developed world and attempt to steal things from it But in addition to that it is this grand spectacle and we talk a lot on the show about is. It doesn't move. You have a reason to be seen in a movie theater. Then I feel like the original King. Kong is is one of the landmark achievements and you have to see this on a giant screen. There's nowhere else for to be seen. We'll for sure. I maybe just in terms of bridging King Kong with those other brand name monsters of the period he in genders the same kind of complex sympathy. That you have with Boris. Karloff Frankenstein. Right I mean you even have a rhyme in those two movies wherein Frankenstein. He picks the little girl up by the river without doing what he's doing. And you know drowns her accidentally and certainly king kongs intentions towards Aren't violent. They're they're in his sort of chivalrous or desirous or somewhere in between there. I think the reason he endures an even the point that God's Zilla as a character eventually got bent in King kongs direction because the original godzillas dot anthropomorphized sympathetic at all. And then over the years. And they made Godzilla more like King Kong. I think being inside that sort of like destructive force but you're also misunderstood and you're more a victim of circumstance than anything else that's a really appealing escapist fantasy for filmgoers even thinking the original King Kong as terrifying as it is and as brutal as the violences like a people have never seen it. He smush is people into Goo on screen. You know You're still with him and I think that that's a really great monster. Movie needs on some kinds of great monster movies that you need that possible level of identification or sympathy. So it's not just purely a nightmare. I think the original King Kong does that just just amazingly well. So you're next pick actually doesn't do the former thing that you were just describing which is there's no crushing there's no Gu. There's no absolute violence of a kind in your next week. What's your next movie? The next movie I have is is cap. People which is part of a cycle of really low key atmospheric horror movies produced in the mostly in the nineteen forties. Bhai guy named Val Luton and I would say that if you get a chance to see Ken. Jones documentary thou loot man in the shadows. I think it's the best documentary I've ever seen about a filmmaker at particularly about how Luton changed horror movies by using the lack of a budget. And the lack of franchise -able characters. You Know He. He didn't have the roster that universal was working with all these all star. You know horror icons so he made it less more. It's the it's the the the the cinema of of of suggestion and scary around the edges. But it's also movie about people transforming into cats I. It's a booby that plays the the ambiguity of is this or isn't this real up. You know for for a long time but it really does give over to the idea that the main character the heroin does when stimulated or afraid you know actually transform into A cat due to this this this Eastern European mysticism and it's also a movie. I'm sure they'll come later. That gets remade in the eighties and completely liberalised because instead of just talking with someone turning into a cat or remembering someone turning into a cat you actually see it on screen with with special effects and it's It's less effective to me. Do you do you like the Paul schrader version that you're describing the eighties version. I like the Paul schrader version. Because it's wild acid trippy. Paul schrader horror movie. And it's it's glory and it's actually not as full-on like latex hydraulic special effects. His other movies from the period. But I I love the original are you are you. Are you fond of the delude films directed by Jacques Turner? Who did a bunch of the other ones is it a? Is it a a a source of Phantom for you it is? I saw cat people and the Leopard men in a couple of them many many years ago and then actually over Halloween this year my wife and I were looking and you know as I get older Halloween. Getting more and more difficult to program. If we're not gonNA rewatch something. But we watched a couple movies. We watched The criterion collection had the ghost ship which I had never seen which I thought had. It has a very similar approach to kind of What's happening in the shadows? Which is most of his films are using that strategy of not showing the thing and then I watched by myself. The body snatcher and both of them. I thought were pretty great. I mean I this is also a case where I I. I probably saw Kent Jones's documentary before seeing any of the films and while that was a great thing for my film education it also kind of warped perception of the movie because I was seeing it as a kind of intellectual exercise in a way where I understood technique as opposed to some of these other movies that we're GonNa talk about here where I just happened to be nine years old when I saw it in a completely reorganized my brain chemistry in a way but I do like his movies. And especially this one that you've chosen well and then also just the last thing to say but it may be that because it's not special effects and spectacle it anticipates where horror movies would go in the sixties with the idea of the monster within right. I mean here. It's not a an invading apor vampire. It's the idea of a woman who's subconscious and her inner life motivates this transformations client about the link between monstrous and desire and monstrous and repression. Which is why it tends to be. You Know Pretty Beloved Academically but I mean by the sixties. Neither US talk about these movies. But you start having the idea of the human monster in movies like psycho or whatever else and you can kind of trace aligned from the way cat. People stages horror towards that stuff. I think I think that's right. And I think it's probably a capitals nifty double feature with the peg for this film the invisible man because that movie is also as much about.
"john carpenter" Discussed on The Fickle Fanboy Podcast
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"john carpenter" Discussed on Song Exploder
"You're listening to song explorer musicians, take apart their songs and piece by piece tell the story of how they were made. My name is Rashid your way. Nine hundred seventy eight John carpenter wrote directed and scored the film Halloween was made on a three hundred thousand dollar budget and ended up grossing over seventy million dollars making it one of the most successful independent movies ever released. The main theme to the film became one of the most iconic pieces of cinematic music ever made all weaned went on to become a franchise with ten more Halloween films since the original in October two thousand eighteen a new Halloween film was released directed by David Gordon green. And for the first time since the first film John carpenter. Composed the score that included remaking. His theme song for the new film. This time with the help of his son Cody carpenter and his godson Daniel Davies in this episode, the three of them breakdown. How they did it. I little history. Here's John carpenter. Boylan we made Halloween back in seventy eight. We didn't have any money for composer. So I always knew that I was going to be the composer. We had three days at a recording studio sound art studio in central LA. I knew I was going to do the main theme to Halloween night had that down pretty much everything else. I was gonna fake it just improvise it. So I had three days to do. The score originally. I wrote with a piano that was the easiest and simplest. But I didn't know how to use the synthesizers at the studio. And so Dan Wyman the synthesize a teacher at USC. He tuned everything up. So I would say to him I wanna rhythmic sound here. Or I want something that sound like violence. I didn't have to confront what would happen if he had a lot of money to hire a composer. Because we did. So I'll never know what I would have done. But everything worked pretty well. And I think I got all the melodies that I wanted. After the first movie, I never believed. There was much of a story left to tell. But the original people who held the rights decided. No, that's not a good idea. Let's keep making sequels. So I'm motionlessly divorced myself from long ago, and so John carpenter wasn't involved with the sequels, but then cut to twenty sixteen. Well, I heard about another sequel Halloween and all of a sudden Jason Blohm appears Jason is a high power rather successful horror producer in Hollywood. And he said to me, well, they're gonna make a sequel. So why don't you and I work on it? And we can make it good. We're make it better. And I said well, nobody's really challenged me that way. So this is great. I'll do it. The first step in making the new Halloween was to find a director. Jason blonde started seeing who is out there who was interested and finally came up with David Gordon green. He and his partner. Danny McBride had come. Up with story. So they came over here to pitch me the story and see if I liked it. I thought it was terrific. And they said, we'll will you do the music, and I said, yeah, I'll do it with my son and godson the three of us have been putting out albums, and we'll do it together. So that's how it all came about. I'm Cody carpenter conceptually. We wanted to not stray too far from how my dad did it in the original film. So we use a lot of similar sounds and instruments from the first score. But kind of updated and modernized the piano was the first sound that we used because that's kind of the main focus of the peace. I'm Daniel Davies something that John pointed out early on that the purity of that Pia knows what makes it scary. And it was important to keep that. The piano from the new movie is clearer brighter than the old sound you need to have that panel crisp clear up front and pure. So that everything else can surrounded and be the terrifying. Bizarre elements of the peace. Daniel brought over a couple of synthesizers that which from. There are so many since now that can come close to those original sounds. The over Heim OBI six. Part
The New Halloween Movie Is Great. And You Don't Have To Watch the 10 Other Movies To Enjoy It.
"Michael Myers is back. David Gordon green is behind the wheel while the Halloween franchise has gone through many sequels and remakes. This one seems to be special due to its talented team behind the camera and an endorsement from John carpenter himself who owns an executive producer credit on the film to seal including seventy. Think of it, they say, skip it. Yeah. Yeah, but they haven't seen the other ones. So you know, I, I feel by his word. Jimmy Lee. Curtis also an executive producer credit in his back playing Laurie strode as she comes to her final confrontation yet. Right final come on. It's never the final with the aforementioned Myers, a masked figure who has haunted her since she narrowly escaped his killing spree on Halloween night for decades ago. The film premiered at tiff last month to extremely positive reactions, and it's one of the most intimidated films of the year for a lot of people. I'm going to be going on Friday night. Actually. It's going to be spooky and hopefully a lot of fun. I just watched the original and now forget all the other sequels. This one is a direct sequel