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Biden's Order Targets Half Of New Vehicles To Be Zero Emissions By 2030

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04:26 min | Last month

Biden's Order Targets Half Of New Vehicles To Be Zero Emissions By 2030

"What kind of car do you drive. And what's your gas mileage. My gas mileage stink. Since i added a long commute to culver city california. Now your answer and my answer may change in a few years under president. Biden's new plan. The president signed an executive order with target to get half of all new vehicle sold in twenty thirty to be zero emission. Cars and trucks at the white house. Yesterday biden said the goal is part of a race for the future. A future of the automobile industry that is electric battery. Electric plug in hybrid. electric fuel. cell electric is electric. And and there's no turning back. The question is whether we'll lead or fall behind in the race for the future. His plan also includes stricter fuel economy and emission standards. So what does all of this mean for. America's auto industry john zarrella is the president of the alliance for automotive innovation. The industry's leading lobbying group based in. Dc he's on the line. john welcome. Thank you good morning now. Our car companies ready to meet the president's goal for twenty thirty. You know it is an ambitious skull. It's a very aggressive goal. And we're prepared to meet the challenge as long as we have the appropriate complementary public policies in place. And what does that mean. What kind of appropriate policies are you looking for. Yeah you know. it's a great question. This is nothing short of a transformation of the auto market as well as a transformation of the automotive industrial base. And so when you think about how significant this is Policies support with regard to things like vehicle incentives to make the purchase of these technologies which are a little bit more expensive now a more accessible to more people the building out of public charging infrastructure structure. We've got about one hundred thousand charging station today. In the united states in california alone estimates still need one in two million by the end of the decade and in order to transform this industrial base. You've got many companies that are devoted to building internal combustion engine so support for that. Transformation will ensure that the american worker wins in transformation. So i was going to ask you about that john. The american worker because the vitamin string says it's push toward electric vehicles will create manufacturing jobs. But how could it be that you can ensure auto workers will not be left behind as the industry transitions from gas to electric. Yeah that's that's a big question. And and i think the big piece of that again is working with policymakers to ensure that there is support for that transformation a we've got to build whole news that's of battery plants. We've got to make sure that we've got an industrial supply chain that supports battery development raw materials and the necessary components. And i think what you can see here and you'll start to see this. In the bipartisan infrastructure. Bill is that there are there are policy. That could be put in place to support those investments. And i think that's really important. One more thing john because okay so i i live in california and i just recently started this job so my commute is longer which means that my gas mileage i realize is not as great as i thought it was electrical vehicle. Electric vehicles need charging stations. And here in california. They are not as plentiful as gas station. So what needs to change to ensure more people have incentive as you mentioned earlier to buy the zero emission cars. Like maybe i might in the future. Yeah you know. Congress is looking at this question right now and i think there are two pieces to at one. Congress can extend and expand a tax credits to support the purchase of these. There is a seventy five hundred dollar federal tax credit that available right now but it's not available to all costs. Moore's for all vehicles all the time. So i think we're losing john guts. John basell president of a lobbying group alliance for automotive innovation.

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TYT Extended Clip - August 19, 2020

The Young Turks

51:19 min | 1 year ago

TYT Extended Clip - August 19, 2020

"Offense. Oh yeah, that's right. You're watching the young Turks Mana area and it's Wednesday, which means I'm co hosting with John Zarrella host of damage report on TYP network. Make sure you check out that show and all our other wonderful programming You can find US everywhere extremity zumo Pluto I don't even sumo's a thing. It is a thing we're on SUV OH. We're. You know we're yeah we're on twitch. I. Don't know there's just so many places where you can find us. Yes. Yes. Yes. For those of you watching US live. Thank you for watching US live and for those of you who are members just know that we have some awesome members only programming today. And you can become a member by going to Y T dot com slash join a few programming notes before we move onto the stories of the day Well. Turns out that Noam Chomsky was interviewed by our very own Jank Uber. So definitely check out that interview on the conversation with Jank Uber You can watch that Thursday of this week at five thirty, pm Eastern Time Two, thirty, PM Pacific go to ty dot com slash live or on youtube or on twitch like I mentioned were on various places where you can get our programming and speaking of twitch Jr.. is going to be hosting a watch party. So we're doing these watch parties where various hosts on the network will watch movie along with you on twitch and it'll be a shared experience. It'll be wonderful. So make sure you check that out with Jr on Saturday August twenty second eight pm time five, pm. Pacific. You can find our twitch channel at twitch DOT TV slash ty T. twitch dot. TV Slash. CIT. All right John Are you ready for some news? Isn't going to be. Let's do it. Postmaster General Louis to joy claim that he would halt all the operational changes that conveniently make it difficult for people to vote by mail at a time when people are more likely to vote by mail because of the pandemic. Now, as we've said before Lewis should destroy is a huge trump supporter has donated millions of dollars to Donald Trump, and he immediately started to a basically take certain mail sorting devices off line, which, of course, the post office would need in order to sort a huge influx of male that's likely to come about as a result of mail in ballots. We saw some evidence of mail drop boxes being picked up in various cities across the country and so now he saying. Don't worry don't worry there's enough backlash and so I'm going to stop but he did not commit to undoing the damage that he's already done. So the hill reports that the postmaster general on Tuesday said that he would pause just pause these changes to postal service operations until after the election amid bipartisan outcry a sharp reversal after trump spent days defending joys actions the joy said retail. Hours at post offices would remain unchanged mail processing equipment and collection boxes would not be removed and no mail processing facilities would be closed. Now, that's what joy is saying, and even if he's being one hundred percent honest there, there's a huge problem with the fact that he has not committed to undo some of the damage that's already been done and so much more trusting of the leadership. For the Postal Union and many of them have spoken out and I want to share their perspective on this a little bit more than a dozen of these postal union leaders actually spoke to CNN and shared what they're experiencing behind the scenes. So I let me just note that the original plan implemented by the joy would basically get rid of hundreds literally hundreds of mail sorting machines. Six. Hundred seventy-one machines used to organize letters or other pieces of mail were slated for reduction in postal facilities this year now when it comes to the union leaders, Mary Bell is one of them and she's the General President of a local chapter of the American. Postal Workers Union in North Carolina and she said that seven sorting machines at a Charlotte postal facility have been either separated out. Dismantled or entirely removed in recent weeks bell says that she does not expect these dismantled mail sorting machines to be powered up time for the election. So some damage is already done. Let me give you more roscoe woods president of AP W. local four, eighty, forty one said a dozen machines at a distribution center in Pontiac Michigan had been removed from service in recent weeks, and despite destroys a announcement he said he has heard from postal management that the machines are not supposed to be put back to work. And by the way, let me also just be clear about one other thing. It has been a longtime dream of conservative Republicans and even some conservative Democrats to essentially dismantle nachos machines within the postal service but to dismantle the postal service altogether right to essentially privatize it and do away with it, and it's not surprising that someone Lewis did show would wanna do that because he has a vested interest in companies that serve as a Competition to the postal service or I shouldn't say the postal service serves as a competition to them because of the fact that the postal service is much cheaper and so he says look I've already done some damage I. Guess I'll stop for now but I want to let you know what I plan on doing after the election. Here's a direct quote. I came to the postal service to make changes to secure the success of this organization and its long term sustainability I. believe significant reforms are essential to that objective and work toward those reforms will commence after the election. Well, you know one of the best ways to ensure that the postal service will remain sustainable is to do away with a ridiculous rule that forces the post office. To, Fund. Pensions Seventy five years in advance seventy, five years in advance that was a law a rule implemented by the Bush administration for very specific reason to ensure that the post office would have a difficult time being sustainable Detroit has private interests here he wants to do away with the post office. So he can see a little return on his investment and it's absolutely pathetic and sad. That anyone would by any of the arguments coming from these right wingers who do not have the best interests of Americans in mind John. Honestly it feels like. Like after all the outcry, all of what's come out that spin you'll very obvious and thankfully people working at the post office have have their experience and made it made it very clear. It'd be like if you were infected by the coronavirus and it was ravaging you and you made a big stink about it. So it was like, okay, I'll I'll. I was just trying to sustainable. You're still there. You've already done the damage. The organs are possibly irreparably harmed for the rest of my life. It just doesn't. It doesn't make any sense and honestly it look there's so many different ways to look at what he did in saying I'm pausing it. That is I think far more likely than Oh, sorry that was my mistake my bad. You know I didn't WanNa make you think that I was interference the election. So one is that it's simply a publicity move to help get through. The hearings that are about to come and that it won't actually be a pause or it could be that there will be a pause but it's a publicity move any realize that even if Even. If the Democrats came into the house right now, guns blazing, we're gonNA, pass legislation I. Don't know how they would fix all these problems in a small amount of time that we have. But even that amount of time is more than if he just waits two to three weeks and then starts doing it again and I know that sounds ridiculous. Right? I mean there was this big stink. The news was talking about it. Let's say he stops for now in three weeks he starts pulling sorting machines again, what's going to be done about it like realistically based on the experience we've had over the past two years what would happen. Nothing Nothing but I mean, it'd be fine. Yeah Yeah own you you were. Really. Turn it is that he can afford deposit because he's done the damage that he intended to do. Honestly. Yeah you're absolutely right I mean I i. feel like both scenarios of course are disastrous. So on one hand, you can have him. Announced that he's going to stop doing what he's doing, but he's probably GonNa, continue because he's I mean. He doesn't have to worry about real consequences. Sure. He's going to have to participate in this hearing and I'm glad that Democrats decided to get back to work at this moment of crisis, not simply because of what's happening with the post office but I mean, we're still in the middle of this pandemic. Let me just remind all of you. I'm sure you already know because many people are feeling it in their personal finances still no new round of stimulus right and so I'm glad that they got back to work and I'm glad they're going to. At least attempt to hold them accountable but they need to have the kind of attitude that Republicans had toward Hillary Clinton, and Benghazi there was nothing there but they wouldn't let it go it was it was clearly an obviously nothing more than political theater, but it was effective right and so I think if Democrats don't drop this topic and refused to allow themselves to get distracted, then they could maybe ensure that people who WanNa vote by mail the ability to do so but right now I'm terrified. Because if you look at some of the polling including recent poll by CNN, there's a huge portion of this country that has bought into the messaging by the trump administration arguing that mail in voting is not safe that it's it's not a valid way to cast your vote, and so you need people to have faith in our electoral process in order to participate in that process, and so there's already all sorts of damage that's been done and it is terrifying because you know we're in a situation where. It's not about winning because you're the better candidate that Americans prefer. It's about throwing the election and stealing it by playing all of these Games with the post office and by planting these seeds in people's minds that the outcome of the election is not going to be valid because mail in voting. Is. Is. It leads to a prevalence of fraud, and of course, we've we've shown various studies showing that's not the case but how much does that message through? Exactly Yeah Yeah and if in the end if this is successful, even if let's say he's done for now, he's not going to do any more damage. We don't know how much damage has already done. If it's a close election, we'll never know honestly if it was what swung it, and even if someday we find out in some way which we won't, it wouldn't matter it wouldn't reverse it like once the damage is done what's that election is swung bats that's it. It's just it's such a horrible situation. It's one of the reasons we talked Jaren on the different for this morning about I sort of. People are saying things like if trump wins American democracy is over I, get the inclination and certainly there will be a lot of damage done but it doesn't take his reelection for him to have done significant damage that damage is already here and I don't want to give people the idea that if we can stop him then we're good no things have been wrecked top to bottom. And we're seeing that joy the fact that he has no fear whatsoever that what that he's going to be significant arm, but it's GonNa be locked up. No no consequences for him. There are no consequence of anymore even if somehow they had they found emails laying out in one detail what they're gonNA do and why they're going to do it. What's the best we can hope for trump pardoning him honestly like people still have this idea that we have this system we did ten or twenty or thirty years ago we don't nothing really counts anymore nothing really matters. This is one chance of. Potentially start to reverse a bit of it. Well, we have one other mail in voting story to get to. So let's talk about that again. In person you can vote in person the Democrats seemed funny with the looting in person part not so much the other way because they want to be able to do it all by were manipulated. Well, that was donald trump junior thinking that he was making a logical statement by arguing that if people can go out there and loot, of course, he's making a disgusting generalization about protesters then they would have the ability to vote in person. Now, that's an interesting statement. Especially, considering his own father refuses to vote in person and is getting a mail in ballot from the State of Florida. But the thing about that statement that actually gets under my skin. The most is it's so typical of a right winger saying something dumb and thinking that they're quote unquote owning the LIBS and in reality I mean if you look at the demonstrators, they're not representative of everyone who would want to vote by mail. So to argue that, no, these protesters if they can go out. There and protest they can go out there and vote as well. I? Think that that's a misleading and intentionally. So now Donald Trump parroted his idiotic son on twitter writing. If you can protest in person, you can vote in person but again, trump is voting by mail in Florida. So if he has the right to vote, then we should have the right to vote by mail. And so they want to draw this distinction as we've talked about before between mail in voting and absentee voting I've noticed that they've changed their messaging a little bit to refer to universal voting versus absentee voting i WanNa, talk about you know the I guess difference there although they're still really no difference but John I wanted you to jump in and just quickly comment on what the trump's had to say about I, mean I think you laid it out really well, I would only add are are a lot of 75-year-olds protesting and person or looted person a lot of people with significant PREDISPO-, predisposition towards certain types of illnesses they protesting and looting in person it's such a stupid stupid I like the. The only way that as a right winger, you can own someone is with an audience of people who are even less clever than you. That's it. If you think about it at all, if you scratch the surface at all, it doesn't make any sense. At obviously doesn't make sense because he has literally never met anyone who has voted in person every single person top to bottom in the White House has all voted by mail. It is interesting to hear them like accuse others of being owned like. I'm on the left I'm not owned by anybody I can say what I want to say on this show I don't have any type of. Corporate interests in. mind. No one is. Paying me to say things right whereas you know if you look at Donald Trump specifically, he's certainly owned I mean he He prostitutes himself as a politician got millions of dollars from the NRA started off his presidency with all this tough talk about gun regulation and what are the? IRA. Do Hey you little bitch here's some money shut up and that's what he did. He's owned. And I think he was also owned actually. So. So let's talk about the actual facts because you know knuckleheads are going to be knuckleheads but is there a difference between universities voting absentee voting? Well, it's interesting because not many states do what's referred to as universal voting where people who are registered to vote will get a mail in ballot. Now, California's one of the states that did not have that process in place before but due to the pandemic they are now sending ballots to every registered voter, but by the way prior to. Getting your ballot California actually set I know this because I live in California, sent me a form to confirm that I still live at that address I had to verify that. So there are safeguards in place to ensure that fraud does not take place. So let me give you more of those details right now only nine states and the district of Columbia so far planned to hold universal mail in elections in which ballots automatically mailed to all registered voters without needing to request one I. So California as I mentioned we'll start proactively mailing ballots to register voters joining universal vote by mail states such as Colorado many states will send every registered voter an absentee ballot application. So an absolutely t ballot application is essentially A form that you have to fill out to give a reason why you WanNa vote by mail, right. But at the end of the day, the situation is the same right. There are safeguards in both instances to ensure that voter fraud doesn't take place. That's why we don't have a prevalence of voter fraud in this country very studies have shown that and so other states that do this the universal mail-in. Or Washington Utah and they've been doing this for years. It was never a problem until trump realized that he was trailing in the double digits in national polls by the way according to the Brennan Center for Justice at New York. University. There's no evidence that mail balloting increases electoral fraud as there are several anti-fraud protections built into the process designed to make it difficult to impersonate voters or steel ballots. Just to give you some examples those provisions include requiring people requesting absentee ballots. To be registered voters, mailing ballots to the official address listed on voter registration rolls meaning you have to be a registered voter to get the ballot in the first place, and it requires voter signatures on the external envelope and having election authorities make sure the ballot came from the address of an actual voter. If a ballot appears questionable, some states use a signature matching technique to verify the signature of the voter. So oftentimes, you'll hear right wingers make these stupid arguments about like who? Go to bill it. Okay. Well, then did you commit voter fraud? Did you register your dog to vote because that's the only way your dog could have gotten a ballot. Voter registration fraud. It would. It would be very difficult for a dog to get through all of those protective measures, but I would say that if they could. Go honestly that's a special DOC. I mean, there are all special. Charter. Vote. Well. and. It's important. It's really important that people. Feel comfortable participating this upcoming election. Many people for good reason are afraid to go vote in person because of this pandemic. I mean, trump seems to have some favorability among older. Older voters, and so he probably shouldn't be spreading this message that would make them question the validity of voting by mail I want I want to look at the most recent graph comparing the United States to Europe when it comes to this pandemic. Luckily lately, we've been seeing a little tiny bit of a dip in our Kovic numbers, but we're still very far off in terms of. Success that we're seeing with European countries. So it's so depressing and embarrassing to see that it is in a sidelights vote by mail. Yeah and more power to you for reading that Brennan Center result for what the Fifteenth Time How many times have you read that show twenty times I don't know. and. Meanwhile, they have successfully. On the right, they've successfully gotten their voters to believe that universal mail in ballots is. To steal the election, it's obviously fraudulent all of that but universal absentee ballots that's totally great. Republicans should do that at the very least they believe those two things simultaneously. And they don't care about the Brennan. Center any of this, the fact that multiple states red and blue have been doing this mail in voting for literally years that not only is there no evidence that it's linked to fraud but there's also evidence that it's linked to any advantage for either party. It could in the end end up benefiting Republicans because it might make it easier for older people vote they. Tend to lean Republican just the whole thing. It is so frustrating and I don't know maybe you feel the same way to continually go back to topic where the people who believe misinformation about it have been inoculated against any new, any new information, any new facts, and they honestly don't care they just don't care. So you can try to do fact checks and everything, but it just feels so pointless sometimes. Well. Let's take a break get a little breather and when we come, BACK DONALD TRUMP decides to attack American company that makes an American product and employees. American people we'll be right back. Electric cars are awesome but they aren't the best tool for every job. You can't park them on the edge of the sidewalk while you run to the store for a few things on top of that electric car is just financially out of reach for many. People that's zoom electric scooters come in when I say electric scooter I'm talking about small motorcycles with space in front of you to put your feet zoom scooter has a range of sixty miles offers a smooth ride up to forty miles per hour and can be charged from any electrical outlet start saving on gas while reducing your carbon footprint and find out more go to dot com slash zoom enter the code to it fifteenth again additional discount. What's up everyone welcome back to ty T. Annan John with you want to tell you a quick note about our partner aspiration aspiration in ty. Joined forces to do a sweepstakes on an e scooter. So you can definitely check that out for your chance to win just go to t t dot com slash green summer for all the details and if you already have an aspiration account, there's still a way for you to enter for a chance to win again, all you need to do is go to t y t dot com slash green summer to get all the details Alright, well, you know what? I totally forgot to remember comments and I'm going to do it right now. So Progressive Pirate says I. Think Joy is worried about going to prison I. Don't think so I really don't I mean. No Just, don't there's never any consequences and so I'm not just saying not to be pessimistic I mean we've had. So many different types of crimes happen on a higher level, right by people in positions of power, and you know as soon as Democrats have. Any position of power themselves. They decide that they want to look forward not backward and let's say in like this imaginary fantasy. World Democrats, do something strong and find a way to successfully prosecute and convict him of something I think that John's right I mean. Is someone like trump is willing to pardon anyone and everyone? so He'd find a way to get them. You know the freedom that they don't deserve. Pardon me Roger Stone for protecting his interest during the election and then not giving it up. This would be the exact same thing. So he would do the same thing I don't see why he would. Honestly. John writes in and says, every ballot that is mailed in can be contested for dozens of reasons. Millions were thrown out in two, thousand eighteen in the two thousand, eighteen election you're right I. Mean we've seen we've seen that before. and. That's why you need to not only vote early if you're voting by mail because of everything that's happening with the post office but just be super careful and make sure that you fill it out correctly because any little mistake could lead to that ballot getting thrown out. So you know honestly. It's so counter to the narrative that we're hearing from Republicans like yeah. All right and I don't want to ignore. Rats solicits read a few of those just finish listening to today's episode of Td are John Shapiro impression is scary Sorry. Lost the title for doing what you do. Thank you. And then there was one other comment. Yeah. I wanted to read a few twitch comments so Erie. Man. forty-two gifted a sub to the channel. And it's there eighty fourth gifted sub to ty far Nice I. Think it's is it Iryh its iron man, right? Yeah. I rea- that is I. Don't think. Okay. All right. Well, let's get to the news guys because there's a lot to get to. Donald Trump has decided to attack an American company that makes an American product and Employs, many American people. So why would he do that? Well, it's over an obscure local news. Story Out of Louisville, Kentucky. That showed a screen shot of. That was taken by a good year employees. The employees claim that this screen shot was from some sort of racial discrimination training that they had to go through, and there was apparently zero tolerance for a certain type of peril. So the slide. That acceptable apparel includes black lives matter gear or anything that talks about. Gay. Lesbian, bisexual. transgender pride unacceptable on that list you have blue lives matter all lives matter Maga- attire, and political affiliated slogans at material. So you know this is something that of course, upset Donald Trump because he wants to make sure that anyone who wants to wear goofy hats can wear goofy hats. And so He tweeted about this saying the following don't buy goodyear tyres. They announced a ban on Maga- hats get better tires for far less. This is what the radical left Democrats due to play the same game and we have to start playing it now. So few things I want to just quickly mention. Donald Trump recently went on a rant about cancel culture and then proceeded to cancel courier because of some policy that they have about certain political tire and then Look I I personally don't care about whether or not. Someone wears a Maga- hat I don't get triggered by it. I don't really like I judge them. There's no question about that like if you want me to prejudge you, that's the best way to do it. At first I was like, yeah I don't think good. You should do this I think good. You should just let people what they want to wear as long as it's not like super inappropriate or could. Endanger someone as they're doing their job or something. You know if you're making tires you, I'm sure you have to wear certain safety equipment. But at the same time, I mean we're in such a divisive terrible environment right now as a country and when you go to work, you have to be around people you work with and so y needlessly do things that are going to antagonize your colleagues or your co workers and make the work environment even more unbearable than it needs to be. But Kayleigh mcenaney was asked about trump's boycott and so I want to watch that video and get your thoughts. John. Let's take a look. The president retaliating against a private company for their dress code and potentially jeopardizing American jobs. So good here needs to come out and clarify their policy. There is an image. To clear. Yes. I did see their statements which still still fared failed to clarify their policy racial equality racial justice. But not for political speech free scattered across the border. Now, that's not that unusual the president even retail to goodyear tweet. Equity. Issues. As far as I'm concerned blue lives matter is an equity issue. There have been police officers across this country that have been targeted because they wear the badge. Except if you choose to be a cop, you have made a decision to be a cop. People don't get to choose what their races they don't get to choose what their sexual orientation is and so to try to extend an argument regarding equality to people who make a decision to work in a certain field I think is like absolutely ridiculous. But John I wanted to get your take. Yeah. It's the whole thing is just so frustrating. Yes choice versus you know being born into is a great point the actual reality of who is being targeted and oppressed, and who is pretending to to try and draw the spotlight to them selves. The fact that one was an organic movement meant to draw attention to an injustice. The other was a direct response intended to take the spotlight back again like if I sit next to when we sat in the studio I I, sit next to Brett let's say hypothetically, we both had kids and I got a world's greatest mug and he got a no no. I'm better DAD Mug. Those are not equal. One is more aggressive. Okay. and so it's just yeah it's like saying that you have lgbt Pry Lgbtq pride is just a positive thing about a group. We know how many people have attacked others while Maga- hats we know that all lives matter is a direct response and aggressive response to this civil rights movement. There's no reason why they wouldn't want to limit that to be safer. They're probably GONNA end up banning literally everything. So because the right got triggered by this everything's going to be cancelled that'd be my prediction. For good year, but I also love in his original tweet the idea that the the left does this all the time we have to start to you guys boycotts something like every week. What are you talking about start doing something? Fox. News is all boycotts and they boycott Curie Nike and a million other products is nothing new but I also love one another thing where he's like you can get much better tires for lower prices. Does anyone think he did market research before he tweeted that? Does anybody. Who Ain't. He won't even do market research for his own businesses. That's why he went bankrupt six times. I. Mean the Guy Is Lazy and incompetent as hell. So of course but no, that's look this story. Okay. Forget the apparel part of it. Right I actually think that's a very small part of this discussion I know this is what triggered the discussion but at the heart of it is this characteristic of Donald trump that. So damaging to the country, right? It's about how he always prioritizes. Himself his own political agenda and his own self interest above anything else and while being president of the United States is a position of power right and there are people out there who are lured seduced by that power. In reality what that position is supposed to represent is a service is a public service, right? You're supposed to be willing to give up so much in order to represent this country to lead this country but even when it comes to something on a very like granular. Irrelevant level something like. As relevant as wearing a Maga- hat, DONALD TRUMP is willing to see Americans lose their jobs like assuming that this boycott is successful and honestly I don't think it will be but assuming that it would be right. But that's his intention. Let's boycott knowing that employees are going to lose their jobs if people follow through with this boycott because. My my VP's are her because people won't be able to wear goofy hats just your man he's in a seven days. He's in his seventies. Like imagine like Obama's like. I just heard that like know Oscar Mayer wieners banning the hope shirt don't eat their wieners. They're better wieners that would've never ever happened. I just want the world to be saying, and honestly trump is gonNA freak out. He's always gonNA freak out. He's GonNa pretend that. Okay. I, know exactly. I think it works best this way and and people pointed out that the beasts vehicle the president uses goodyear tyres A. Time. But anyway, it was the response to the tweet that really got me most worked up. Because you know there are people with three times as many twitter followers as us who'd literally the only thing they do is respond to everything trump tweets and say, yeah, you're the best. So I looked at his good your tweet replies and it was all people saying no more good year for me just agreeing with it which find they're going to do whatever he says, but then there were all these replies saying good your tires are second rate. Like what did you think that yesterday I had no idea it's better or worse than firestone or literally any other type the idea that. You can say I'm not going to purchases product because of what they did. You could boycott something fine people boycotted Goya but they did it because of the political thing didn't suddenly start saying Hormel has better beings. Unless. They already believed it. Okay. But you can't have your factual statements about the world be entirely determined by day by day political calculations that and I know this seems like a weird thing to focus on and every time. I talk about you caring about the nature of reality or actually caring whether the things you believe actually true. It seems like this weird abstract philosophical thing that we don't have to worry about but. They're like millions of people and trump was just talking about it and Laura Luma just got elected and Marjorie, the Cunanan woman she just WanNa primary like this is actually leading to something. This idea that facts are totally optional. You can just make them up and live your life based on that. This isn't just a philosophical concern. This is having real world impact on our politics and it's only gonNA, get worse from here. Yeah. Yeah. You're absolutely right with that You know when you get to a point in your life when family members are sending you Cunanan posts as evidence for the ridiculous arguments they're making You know you die inside a little bit God forbid you ever aggressively correct them because you know they'll come at you aggressively. But if you correct them, they'll whine and cry about it. Anyway play professional issues out of this I know and we'll go ahead and take a break. But when we come back, we'll talk a little bit about. DNC speech there's been a lot of. Misrepresentation over the powerful speech that she's given. So clear that up and also I do want to issue a correction over some of my comments about Michelle Obama's speech explain when we return. Welcome back. Welcome back to Typ an-and John with you. I'm just GonNa read one quick super chat from jared who wrote in to say I feel I literally got disowned because I would not back down when it came to the importance of black lives matter and Police Accountability Jared I love you I'm proud of you and I absolutely feel you I absolutely feel you and you know if you had the same or have had similar experiences but it's amazing how many people feel confident in asserting whatever it is that they believe aggressively and then when you buy back all of a sudden, they're the victims anyway let's get the rest of the news. I hear by second the nomination of Senator Bernard Sanders of Vermont for President of the United States of America. For anyone who has even a few brain cells, it was abundantly clear that representative Alexandria Cossio Cortes endorsed Joe Biden at the end of her speech and it was a short speech but it was a short speech because that was the time she was allotted and it was powerful even though it was a short speech, unfortunately, the powerful message that she was trying to. Put. Out there. was muddled by the nonsense over at NBC. News. which shortly after the her speech tweeted the following in one of the shortest speeches of the DNC. Cossio Cortez did not endorse Joe. Biden. I. Hereby Second The nomination they quote of Senator, Bernie Sanders of Vermont for President of the United States of America. So everybody you know like I know we all have short attention spans I know that we're all paying attention to multiple things at once. But let's let's just listen before we spout off because apparently the reporters at NBC News Didn't do that. Let's read the statement again I. Hereby Second Second The nomination of Bernie. Sanders? Senator. Bernie Sanders of Vermont when you second someone's nomination, it means that you are nominating you are endorsing the person. That was endorsed by the person you're seconding that's that's what happens there. Right and NBC knows that they know unless they hire competent reporters which. Based on what you see on MSNBC? That's not too far fetched. So let's just keep it real. Now after a little bit of backlash NBC tried to correct the record tweeting editor's note and clarification this tweet should have included more details on the nominating process. LLC didn't by she's always quick to come people who come at her, and so she said, so NBC News How are you going to fix the incredible amount of damage misinformation that you are now responsible for the at one fifteen a m because a tweet at one fifteen, a m. To slip under the radar after blowing up a totally false and divisive narrative across networks isn't it and look to be fair to. Leave because she deserves a fairness in the story and more. NBC might have issued a little bit of a correction but in reality if you look at the way that they've covered her speech and headlines, they haven't really. So take a look at this headline where they write. Nominates Bernie Sanders in sixty second DNC speech? No she didn't she. She nominated. Joe. Biden. And by the way she clarified this on twitter. She said, if you're confused no worries convention rules require roll call and nominations for every candidate that passes the delegate threshold I was asked to second the nomination for Senator Sanders four roll. Roll Call I, extend my deepest congratulations to Joe. Biden. Let's go to November and you know I've seen some commentary about like. Well, you know she could have said it in a way like let's let's give you some examples of a way that she could do this where she mentions Joe Biden by name look let me just keep it real you've. been respectful toward Ao see like they have had this like Rolodex of horrible Republicans? I mean people who pushed this country into endless wars in Iraq like Colin Powell's GonNa speak and. You know all of these right wingers. Bloomberg is going to is a lot more time than. Was Right, and so all of a sudden we're talking about how AFC needs to be respectful and message in a clearer way that's friendlier to Biden. Remember they gave one minute to speak and it had to be prerecorded and approved before it could air at the DNC please I'm just not buying any of this. It's so stupid, it's this nonstop. Finger pointing toward progresses these. that. Progressives. Behave, in a certain way you know that they they fold, they know their role, all of that but then establishment Democrats can do and say whatever they want. They can slap you in the face whenever they want however they want and you're you're not supposed to ever fight back or speak out against it. It's so frustrating and even when you do what they ask you to do the right these ridiculous stupid misleading headlines about you. Anyway. Those are my thoughts on it. Yeah. But how do you really feel? Yeah. So everybody. Knows exactly what was happening? They know this tradition that if you've got this many delegates, you're gonNA. Have Your name placed and you're GONNA choose people who speak in favor of you doesn't mean that they think or want you to get it doesn't mean that they're not working to get the eventual nominee to win and obviously she has and Bernie is Bernie had already spoken the night before everybody's. At, NBC News knows exactly how that works and they chose to present a see as if she had gone rogue and decided no screw Biden I'm supporting a Bernie. Sanders and if you watch her speech, if you follow this news coverage, you'll come away knowing that that's not the case. But if as many people will you just see that you know then you're gonNA come away with a false impression. And they know better and they decided to do this. You know I looked just randomly. Hillary. Clinton's name was placed in nomination for president back in two thousand eight Jerry Brown after losing to Bill Clinton in ninety two Jesse Jackson and Gary Hart in Eighty. Four Ted Kennedy's name was placed in nomination after losing to Jimmy. Carter it happens all the time is the most standard thing and to leave off they said we need to add more details about the nomination process. No you need to add one that this isn't a symbolic move that you were warned about you access door speech beforehand you were not suddenly like Some raised by what she was saying, it's so dishonest and coming from the same basic company that was smearing Bernie Sanders supporters online is digital brownshirts talking about like the Nazis storming the magic no line. That's basically what Bernie Sanders was. One of the primary nights do you have to put this in the context of how they've treated this movement throughout and the fact that it's very likely? I don't think this is unfair to say that this is an early attempt to start to sideline. Who they probably fear some day will be a Bernie Sanders es candidate for president. Like early attempt come on. I mean I feel like this has been going I. Don't know I think I think I misinterpreted the end of her speech I did because when she said Bernie Sanders nominated Biden. So when she said I second Bernie. Sanders. Is Nomination I thought that she was just like seconding what Sh- what Bernie had said, but I, just not an honestly I don't care I don't care nominee who cares who cares what was way more powerful and I think this is also part of the reason why they. Decided to cover the story using this angle as opposed to actually talking about her speech, her speech was powerful and it brought up. You know colonization, which is unprecedented in these types of speeches so. Let's actually focus on what matters, which is what her message was take a look in fidelity and gratitude to Amass People's movement working to establish twenty-two for centuries social economic and human rights including guaranteed healthcare higher education, living wages, and labor rights for all people in the United. States. A movement striving to recognize and repair the wounds of racial injustice, colonization, misogyny, and homophobia. And to propose and build reimagined systems of immigration and foreign policy that turn away from the violence and xenophobia of our past. Movement that realizes the unsustainable brutality of an academy that rewards explosive inequalities of wealth for the few at the expense of long term stability for the many. And who organized a historic grassroots campaign to reclaim our democracy. In a time when millions of people in the United States, are looking for deep systemic solutions to our crises of mass evictions on employment and lack of healthcare in least spirit to the Pueblo and out of a love for all people I hear by second the nomination of Senator Bernard Sanders of Vermont for President of the United States of America. Yeah I did originally misinterpreted. So apologies for that but honestly. Like we she did it way more. Didn't really get anything wrong because you did not come away thinking that she was trying to get Bernie Sanders to become the next president United States right? Exactly exactly and honestly after watching her speech I came away with was wow, that was an incredibly powerful speech especially given the short amount of time. She was given to make a message to to put out a message and look here's the. Reason. Why I think they're totally distracting from what her message actually is look. She mentioned labor rights not real popular with the salvage politicians these days. Yes that includes Democrats. Democrats do not care about labor rights. Let's just keep a real. The only way that they will is if Labor gets organized and does something about it, let's just be honest. There's also the fact that she brought up colonization. That's a big no-no in American politics because we're such an angelic country. You know we don't have this dark disgusting past. We're GONNA pretend like you know all about stuff is wiped away and we did these incredible stings and founded this country and there was no one here and there was no colonization. I mean obviously the truth that couldn't be further from the truth, but it is unprecedented for a politician to make that. Kind of statement during a convention speech, and then she mentioned reimagined systems including in regard to foreign policy. These are powerful powerful statements and so what does NBC do they decide? Yeah, we don't like any of that. We don't like any of that. We know Biden isn't going to try to do any of that. So let's go ahead and try to misrepresent what is doing here and it's just so sad cathodic and petty. All right. Well, we have four minutes left. So let's. Try to fit one more and I was trying to constrain myself. We can keep going if you all now. Yeah. Let's actually let's move. I'm going to fast forward to a different story because the next one we don't have enough time for the next one. Let's do. Pittsburgh next if that's okay guys. All right so Police in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania have apparently taken a page out of Portland playbook and are now using unmarked unmarked vans to basically snatch protestors off from the middle of the streets as they're demonstrating. Now, these are not federal agents. This is different from what we saw with the trump administration, but it doesn't matter. We have police in unmarked cars snatching up protesters in broad daylight. So on. Saturday, for instance, Matthew Carter a protest Marshall was snatched off the streets into a white van while directing traffic during a march against police violence, he was steering protesters through the streets for a weekly protests. Called Civil Saturdays sounds dangerous led by a youth organization block young educated according to Carter's twitter account. That's when he was. Lured by men into an unmarked van by passengers who said they were looking for directions so they lied to him the passengers were not wearing police uniforms and were heavily armed Carter said Pittsburgh police claim cardio was blocking traffic and that organizers of the March did not communicate with them about their route. The organizers from the youth group have disputed this and held a press conference Monday to defend cordier and call out the contentious police tactics. By the way I totally believe the protesters here neither Peduto nor the police department responded to city lab requests for comment. So that's the organization reporting on this story, and you know this is something that we've been seeing I mean it's not surprising. We saw happen. With the New York Police, department, we saw it happen with federal agents and it is a form of intimidation. This is a way to discourage protesters from practicing their first. Amendment right from. Assembling and practicing their freedom of speech. Yeah No, it's devastating to see continuing to spread I. Guess we we shouldn't be surprised because again how how many consequences were there at police departments across the country for all of what we saw kidnappings, but but the reproach brutality as well. There were a few people who are suspended maybe a couple of firings but the instances numbered in the dozens or hundreds and so many cops who have wanted to go beyond what they've done in the past saw that and they learned the lesson that you can get away with it. especially, nobody films you you know once the news moves on everything, it's going to be so safe to do that. It's going to start to become more common the. Boy? Seeing. People away simpler. You know. Brutalizing people are not. I want to show an example that someone posted on twitter of what the scene looked like. Let's go to the first video here. CLO I mean, that's terrifying. You don't know who these people are. Being kidnapped and you know again, unmarked ban unmarked unidentified individuals, snatching you up from the streets and putting you in this van. And it's it's specifically meant to intimidate. Here's what the mayor said. Just a quick reminder of our constitutional rights they have restrictions. The right to assemble is a guaranteed right and the right to shutdown public streets is a privilege. All right WE HAVE OUR POST GAME NEXT CHECK US out there ty T. dot com slash join to become a member see you soon.

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You've got what you wanted. We're here. We're back in the studio and got to be honest with you. I like doing the show from home. That's all right. We're GONNA, have a good time today bit annoying. She can't just like turn off. Connection no one's annoy me. The only upside is that I get to spend time with you guys in person in the flesh but other than that I miss my dog. I missed the comfort of my own home I miss not wearing pants but it's all right I'll survive. So we have to blend the two. We got a great show ahead for you guys We have an update on. Kenneth Walker that was Brianna Taylor's boyfriend. He had an exclusive interview that will share some highlights from He did shed some light on his perspective on what happened that night later in the show will also Share. Possibly one of the dumbest statements on Fox News regarding the issue of masks and that's saying something because that network is littered with dumb commentary but I think this one takes the cake But before we get to all of that I do want to remind you all that we have a wonderful partner aspiration and because of aspiration people are able to do their banking at a financial institution that cares about the environment does not invest in fossil fuel companies and is just overall. Wonderful. So to learn more about aspiration aspiration, dot com slash t whitey. All right without further ado let's get to the news today. Actually want to start off. You finally told Brianna didn't make it. I. Never Really got told directly I saw it on the news. You heard Brianna Taylor died on the news pretty much. That was Kenneth Walker who gave an exclusive interview to Gayle King and Kenneth Walker for those who might not know was Briana Taylor's boyfriend. He was the one in the apartment along with Brianna. Taylor. When Louisville cops busted into their home in plain clothes with a no knock warrant and immediately started opening fire as soon as Kenneth Walker. Fired a warning shot now key maintains that he did not know that the individuals who used a battering ram to enter the apartment where cops He really emphasizes that throughout this interview but there are some pieces of information that we've learned through this interview that we previously did not know. So let's go to the first clip where Walker talks about. The cops not announcing that they were cops as they were entering their unit. Loud Bang at the door. No nobody was. Responding you're saying who is You all did ask who is it several times? Several. Times both of us. and. There's no response. You know the police say that they said several times it's the police. If they knock on the door and say it was we could we could as dead salad I know a million percent sure that nobody identified themselves. See you hear the heavy knocking and what do you do so now at that point, we're getting up to put on clothes make ourselves decent to answer the door? Then I grabbed my gun we should also say you were licensed to carry the gun for sure. The one time I had to use it I, mean if it was. Police at the door and they just said with the police, me didn't have a reason at all not to open the door and see what they want. And that makes a lot of sense because remember even though that was a no knock warrant based on a drug trafficking investigation. There was really no reason for Kenneth Walker or Briana Taylor to hide anything or to threaten the lives of those cops the cops absolutely nothing they were in in no possession of drugs or of illegal weapons nothing illegal was in their apartment. So why would Kenneth Walker feel the need to Shoot if he knew that the people trying to enter his home, we're cops it just it the narrative that we keep hearing from the Louisville Metro Police Department it just makes no sense at. And witnesses. John, as we know claim that they did not hear the cops announce themselves. One witness said that he heard one of the cops say it but I wanted to get your thoughts on that exchange. Well, even that witness had earlier about a month earlier had not said it was only later on when they were requestioned that suddenly they came up with that you're so right to point out like we think, okay common sense. The cops are bussing your apartment and you think well, the way to get this situation is shooting at them. That's crazy who would actually do that. But we need understand that the people who believe that that we can't seem to get through to they believe that about all of these, they think that. Michael Brown. was going to Russia. COP had already been shot was going to rush and tried to strangle the life out of AQAP. They really do seem to believe that very often the idea is that black individuals want to kill people with their bare hands and they will do it and so you can't just fight or run no. You have to kill these people because Trayvon Martin he would have strangled the life out of George Zimmerman they really do seem to think this and we've talked about you know the long ago decades old origins of this idea that was very common in the media that black individuals were portrayed as if. They were yetis or something like that stronger than a regular person more difficult to put down and that sort of narrative you don't see that on headlines on the New York Times anymore. But that does not mean that people don't believe that they think that ways that they would never act themselves. They really do seem to think that some people are just waiting to kill people with their bare hands and these are the people that we have to try to get to understand that no world humans nobody wants to kill nobody wants to die that person didn't want be be killed by cops or have their girlfriend be killed by COPs Get thirty people on something as simple as early shared humanity. The lack of justice in this case is beyond infuriating especially when you find out that you know the prosecutor did not recommend criminal charges for the murder of Brianna Taylor when it came to the grand jury. And only one of the COPS officer. Hankinson. is a person who's facing any criminal charges, but it's not even related to shooting and killing Brianna Taylor. As we've reported on previously, it's related to wanton endangerment because. Check out how brave this guy was he ran away from the apartment. into the parking lot and then just started shooting indiscriminately. So he absolutely should face criminal charges for that but when it comes to what happened to Brianna, Taylor no criminal charges and is just beyond infuriating. In the next clip Walker talks a little bit about what it was like. Once the COPS started shooting take a look. One officer fired six shots officer Mattingly Officer Cosgrove fired sixteen shots, officer Hankinson fire, ten shots. That is a lot of firepower I still try to make sense of it to this day. As definitely, there's definitely Bullets coming in every direction when did you realize that Brianna had been shot? I guess in in the middle of all the gunfire like she screamed. Like also her hand you holding her hand like, wow, this was happening in put her down to the ground. But you know she was just so she just didn't get down. So in the middle of all of this, you realize cheese been hit. Was She alive at the time she was still in audit gunfire stopped. She was like bleeding and stuff, and I was holding her. No Dennis when I called my mom, you called your mom I. Yeah I told her somebody just kicked in the door shut. She's she's freaking out at this point, but she told me to call one. So I did. And then when he did call nine, one one and I think this part is so important and I wish I did a better job at noticing this when we had previously talked about the story. The way that he's talking to you know the dispatcher as he's calling nine. One one makes it abundantly clear that even at that point even at that point, he did not know that the people who had entered the apartment were cops listen. where -MERGENCY Happy to somebody in the door inside my girlfriend. While you're on the phone, you don't know it's the place. I didn't know the police not even preceded till nine one one. That you know. Somebody just kicked in the door and shot my girlfriend. For New? Who would said the police? have been calling the police on the police like. Makes it. So. John wanted to get your thoughts on that I mean obviously have I had heard that call before but it's just yet another piece of evidence that when he fired that warning shot, he genuinely believed that the people entering his home were a threat that they were breaking and entering and we're going to harm him in his girlfriend. Yeah He. Is absolutely insane. Yeah. It's a great point, the it's more evidence. And it makes you really wonder what actually happened during. You know the grand jury like how what was actually said, what did they use all the time for if they're hiding all this important information the fact that the the one person said that that was that they heard the cops change their story that phone call it seems like very strong evidence I mean, what? What what is the what is the counter to? That's evidence he didn't know the idea that no no actually in the middle of this gunfight, his girlfriend's shot. So he decides you know what I'm GonNa do I'm going to call the cops and I'm GONNA lie. They could bust in and finish them off at any second who thinks that. But again, it's it's the people who won't watch the interview and honestly don't care what happened to him or to Brianna Taylor They will always believe the worst. It's so frustrating to see this and to know that nothing is going to come up this. No more justice is going to come of it and and they're gonna go on thinking that fundamentally not a racist country nothing needs to happen with the cops no reforms necessary all of that. It's incredibly frustrating. Incredibly frustrating is we keep hearing about how? You know the whole purpose of having polices that they keep us safe. They're supposed to protect and serve but there was just this fundamental disrespect for human lives during this whole incident, and even after the fact you had some of the cops and this is all caught on tape. Admitting that there had been some sort of miscommunication. But what was also incredible was how they refuse to provide medical aid to Brianna? Taylor as she laid there bleeding out. Kenneth Walker talked about that in the interview. Let's hear what he had to say. The. Police didn't come rushing. At all. I don't think I realized. It was the police until I was on the phone with his mom hair like people outside talking. Dot was you know coming for him because I called nine point so you think they're coming to help you yes. When I come outside guns pointed at me. You know I'm being threatened with dogs and. Whatever else? Compared that what's going on off says was a hit by any bullets I said, no, he said that's unfortunate. Too that threw me off to I was mean. That's unfortunate. He said to you after you lost your girlfriend and you don't know what is happening. What did you think that that I didn't know what to think. I really wasn't worried about me only reason even here is because only way for her to get help in there for me to be here. would. Love and it doesn't surprise me that cop tell him that it's unfortunate that he didn't get shot because that means that there's a witness there who just experienced the unbelievably. Just just disregard for human life that those cops demonstrated that night right and you have a witness who saw it from beginning to end who experienced beginning ten, but it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter that the cops lied to judge in order to obtain the no knock warrant they lied about the post office I can't get over this lied about the post office allegedly telling them that there were suspicious packages being sent to Taylor's apartment, and that's Why they needed the no knock warrant because they needed to check out whether she was trafficking drugs later, postal inspectors said, no, no one said that no one said that there were suspicious packages being delivered there so that lie alone should be a huge huge red flag and again to know that there's been no justice specifically for Briana Taylor and her family is beyond infuriating doesn't matter that her boyfriend survived able to tell his story even after all of that. No one's being prosecuted. No one will stand trial specifically for murdering Brianna, Taylor in her own apartment. And from both the behavior and the way that they talked to him, it's their their gangs. That's all it is in some places like la it's it's formal I mean, there's basically no distinction they talk about themselves as you know, gang members would, and in some places, they just act like they like that they have the power of life and death they like knowing that if the Dole it out there, it's basically impossible that they'll ever face any kind of justice. Worst case scenario they have to work at another police department ten minutes down the road. It's madness, and thankfully, throughout the course of this year, some people have been moved over the position of realizing that reform is necessary but not nearly enough. Well, let's take a break. When we come back I will update you on the ongoing debate regarding economic stimulus. Many people are heated about Nancy Pelosi's rejection of Donald Trump's proposal, but it's a nuanced issue and I think it's important for everyone to know all the details. So we'll give you that and more. Hey, everyone it's John if you know me you. 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I mean literally, the only thing you need to do is change skin color and he would be on Fox every day as an example of standing up against the police state and stuff like that although they support the police say finally superchunk comments heart, song? says. Hi Gentlemen my heart is broken. Could I please have shot up for my poor Kitty Lulu who pass today? So Sad. I'm sorry about Lulu. So sorry, that's God. Habitat for humanity. That's funny. Essentially superjet saying I turned thirty one this Sunday miss being able to celebrate with my family. Totally totally. And mortar read but I'm sure do that for the next break? Yes. So let's Let's move on to the topic of economic stimulus because as much as I dislike Nancy Pelosi and I've been very transparent about it. I do think that a lot of the heat she's been receiving lately is misdirected and I'll explain why so. House Speaker Nancy. Pelosi has been catching a lot of heat over the fact that she has rejected Donald Trump's stimulus proposal, which would be a one point eight trillion dollar stimulus proposal. Now remember that House Democrats would like to point two trillion dollars in. Spending and so on the outside looking in, it appears that there were enough concessions by. The trump White House in order to make a deal. So why is it the Nancy Pelosi said? No well, the topic is a little more nuanced than that. But one of the critics is someone who we deeply admire representative Ro. Khanna? Who explained his side of the story in a recent interview? I voted for the original heroes aquifers three point four, trillion dollars I voted for the two point two, trillion dollars at the House Democrats have I believe our house plans are better than what the White House is proposing. But the point is one of four, hundred, thirty, five members of Congress to chambers of Congress the Republicans to call the Senate trump is in the White House and the point is I could say, well, let's have a conor Ryan plan or nothing or I can say constituents a minor hurting we have to compromise. Done and I rather they get some stimulus check in some renaissance spent then nothing and that's really what we're talking about is get something done. Let's all compromise at a time of national crisis. So I agree with you there he he makes a lot of great points and at first I thought well look it's not just about how much the bills cost right? Trump could be proposing a one point eight trillion dollar stimulus bill that has all the wrong priorities funnels money to corporations as opposed to ordinary Americans well, Democrats might be focusing more and prioritizing You know ordinary Americans who have lost their jobs who desperately need unemployment assistance So I looked at the two different proposals and to be quite honest with you when it comes to what Donald Trump is proposing, it is pretty good. It's not as robust as the previous cares act was, for instance, the six hundred dollars a week in unemployment subsidies from the federal. Government. Will be less than two only four hundred dollars a week. But that certainly is better than nothing especially right now when so many people are losing their jobs people are getting laid off by these companies that originally took P P P. but now are able to lay off workers since the regulation related to P P P has expired that expired on September thirtieth. So they can go ahead and lay off their workers now and many companies did Disney laid off tens of thousands of workers airline companies? Laid off tens of thousands of workers. So I understand where Rokon is coming from and what trump is proposing actually looks pretty good but here's the problem Donald Trump said via tweet because we all know that that's how he communicates that he wants Republicans to sign onto something big. In fact, he has made clear that he wants Republicans to pass a stimulus bill that does more and spends more than what Democrats are proposing. So if I'm Nancy Pelosi and I know that Donald Trump who these Republican lawmakers love to lick the boots of once a bigger spending bill why not hold out for a bigger spending bill but here's the real problem. The real problem. Is Senate Republicans and that always gets left out of the conversation and it drives me crazy. Mitch McConnell is not interested in passing Donald Trump's version of stimulus. He's made that clear. He does not want to help ordinary Americans and I'll give you details on that in just a second. But John I wanted to get some of your thoughts I. Yeah. There's a few one. Is that supposedly what you hear from the right is that all of this of course fake it's all made. Up and the Democrats want it to be as bad as possible leading up to the election because that will benefit them and it'll hurt. Donald. Trump that they want the suffering to continue in all of that. But then why is it Mitch McConnell. At stopping the aid that would go to the American people that Nancy Pelosi would almost certainly agree to in that case assuming it wasn't you know an insane bill that said just puts indirectly in corporations which we already had the first time. Why wouldn't he support that? They seem like they're saying it's the Democrats that are trying to maintain this impasse because it benefits them politically in the short term, but it's literally Mitch McConnell who is in month six of blocking any aid whatsoever? Yeah. You're absolutely right. In fact, Mitch McConnell is going to hold a vote on his version of economic stimulus that mostly just focuses on providing P P two businesses because that's where his priorities are So Mitch McConnell is the one who will ultimately reject any type of robust stimulus that overwhelmingly. Impacts positively impacts the lives of ordinary Americans. So let me give you the details on what trump is specifically proposing because again to be honest with you, it's not bad For instance, the new offer proposes three hundred billion dollars for cities and states up from two hundred, fifty, billion dollars. In the earlier proposal, it maintains a four hundred dollar weekly enhanced unemployment insurance benefit from the previous version but fro four, a somewhat longer duration, which is good. That's good. I would like to see a six hundred dollar weekly enhanced unemployment insurance benefit. But this is a you know of course, it's a little less, but it would if this past, it would go on for a little longer than the previous bill. So the White House is offer on stimulus checks also includes one thousand dollars per child. Instead. Of the five, hundred dollars per child provided in the original cares act approved in March according to to people with knowledge of the plan. The increase in the payments children appears to be intended as a compromise measure for rejecting tax credits for children pushed by Pelosi in negotiations I gotta be honest with you. I would rather have cash-in-hand tax credits for when I file my taxes especially when the situation is as desperate as it. Is Today meaning I agree with what trump is proposing more than what Pelosi is proposing with the child tax credits also roughly four, hundred, billion dollars of the spending would come from money that had already been approved by Congress and would-be re purposed. That's a red flag for me. I want more details on that and no one has looked into this or give more details on where that money would come from I'm worried about that. And just the rest of that graphic. So the net cost of the bill would actually be closer to one point five, billion since they would. repurpose money that had already been allocated. I. Don't know what that money had been allocated for before. Now. The House bill is closer to two point two, trillion dollars in spending. It does provide specific language on aid to hospitals, which is incredibly important. It appears that the Republican version of the bill trump's version of a bill doesn't have that it also yes. Provides child tax credits assistance with childcare I think that is important and the trump bill leaves that out and finally language on testing and tracing it doesn't surprise me at all that trump would. Include something like that in his version of the stimulus bill, and here's where Nancy Pelosi and Steve mnuchin seemed to disagree the figure for states and cities. First reported by politico is still significantly lower than Democrats had been seeking that issue has been a long running of contention between the two sides with Republicans. Claiming Democrats are trying to bail out blue states which to be fair is infuriating because there are plenty of red states were asking for federal aid. So John thought so far on where they disagree. Yeah. Well, two thoughts, I. I like the flat money better than tax credits to but it's still look if this is what we can get. Then I guess that's what we can get. But if you had if you'd sat down with every American family and told them seven months ago. Okay. So they're passing this one bill they're going to give you twelve hundred dollars but don't worry in half a year they're going to give you another grand. Who would have accepted that that's madness and that all along the way, Mitch McConnell Senate Republicans generally. But especially, Mitch McConnell hasn't cared at all to help people out and polls show that he's up over a mimeograph by eight fifteen points. then. Apparently. You can flip the bird or the American people for months and months as hundreds of thousands of them die. and. Maybe it'll hurt you in the polls by a little bit what a democracy that we have in terms of actually passing something I mostly agree with both the UN ro. Khanna. You know people need the help obviously even though we do have to consider the fact that anything gets past the media is going to like they want drama these last couple of weeks they're. Going to look to be giving credit to the man that they haven't had much to give credit for. But that's fine. If that saves lives if it saves people's houses if it keeps them from being evicted and all of that I guess that's unnecessary cost and so again, I really want people to hold Republican. Senators accountable specifically Republican senators who don't have to worry about reelection. Because they're floating around the same nonsense talking point about like all in deficit, the deficit, the deficit, the deficit we're so worried about the deficit they're not worried about the deficit. They just don't like spending any money on ordinary Americans. That's really at the heart of this. You're one hundred percent right I forget exactly I saw it. But a lot of people who have watched this show for fears are going to be surprised by this some UN. Anonymous Republicans are saying that the hyper focus on the cost of this bill and the deficit is intended to begin that narrative for when Joe, Biden wins because a lot of them. Expect that he is going to win. They want to immediately be able to transition into we can't afford literally anything. So starting the conversation around the deficit is one way to do that, and if it passes, then they will use whatever cost of this bill as another example of why we can't afford to do anything except you know like bomb Syria or something. Yeah. No worry about the deficit when trump successfully passed his tax cuts for the rich in two thousand seventeen. Okay. No worries about that. Added that costs two, trillion dollars, two trillion dollars tax cut for the rich no worries about the deficit, the federal debt no worries about that But Anyway, I do WanNa, read some specific comments from Republicans in Congress who have no interest in passing Donald Trump's version of the bill they also deserve blame for potentially in the future if House Democrats approve trump's bill. You know the Senate Democrats would reject it So there is gop disunity as Senate Republicans bulk at one point eight, trillion dollar relief package Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin has offered to house speaker Nancy Pelosi. James Colmer said the following a lot of conservatives are concerned about excessive spending. Until we get liability protection and spending under control I don't think a lot of conservatives will be real excited to vote for another stimulus package and representative Eric Cantor. House majority leader said something very similar arguing I'm doubtful. Gets done in a big big way because of course, they don't actually represent us or. Show any concern for our being you've got to remember there's a lot of senators on the Republican side of the aisle who are not in cycle meaning they're not facing reelection, and one of the most damaging votes they could take is to spend another couple trillion dollars spent a relief bill. So that's where they stand, and Mitch, McConnell is planning on holding a vote next week on his version of stimulus, which is essentially a five hundred, billion dollar bill that mostly just helps businesses There could possibly be a little bit of help when it comes to unemployment insurance but overall his bill only prioritizes businesses and gives ordinary Americans a giant middle. Finger. So he deserves a lot of the blame and I'm just not seeing much of it right now in the media particularly in leftist media I get the disdain for Nancy. Pelosi I certainly share that disdain but I do think in this case, it's a little misdirected especially when you consider just the disgusting feckless behavior we've been seeing from Senate. Republicans. All. Right. Well, let's move on to some other news. Story that bores me to tears because it's the same thing every single time so. Ab Coney Barrett is still undergoing her Senate confirmation and she refuses to answer any questions which is definitely problematic when she gets asked questions that should be considered lay ups for instance, when it comes to electoral issues or the possibility of Donald Trump. You know really flexing his muscle and attempting to turn this country into full a full-blown dictatorship she seems to be open to some of the maneuvers that he has floated. So for instance, when it comes to the possibility of Donald trump delaying an election, something that trump again has considered in the past coney gave a concerning answer. President trump made claims of voter fraud and suggested he wanted to delay the upcoming election does the constitution gives the president of the United States cs thority to unilaterally delay general election under any circumstances does federal law Well senator if that question ever came before me, I would need to hear arguments from the litigants and read briefs and consult with my law clerks and talk to my colleagues and go through the opinion writing process. So you know if if I give off the cuff answers than I would be basically illegal pundit. And I don't think we went judges to be legal pundits I. Think we went judges to approach cases thoughtfully and with an open mind. Yeah except I mean people like Amy Coney Barrett consider themselves constitutionalists who take the constitution and interpreted verbatim literally So let's take a look at what article two section one of the United States constitution says about the possibility of delaying a presidential election. The Congress the Congress not the executive branch the Congress may determine the time of. Choosing, the electors and the day on which they shall give their votes, which day shall be the same throughout the United States. So long story, Short Congress gets to make that decision not the incumbent president. John. It's clear and the only thing clearer than that is that she will answer questions very forthrightly and very quickly and perfectly happily about things that don't reveal that she is nothing but a right wing ideologue because being put into the Supreme Court to take away your healthcare and take away your right to practice reproductive freedoms and if necessary give the election of Donald trump that's. That's they're for. Those are the things that she sort of cloak and there's a side of not accepting the science on climate change of course as well. But mostly, it's that she doesn't want to reveal that all the things that the left and even the center fear she'll do on the Supreme Court. She totally being chosen for that. The right doesn't need to ask detailed questions because they already know that that's why she was chosen on the election related stuff trump wouldn't have. Nominated her if he asked her, hey, if I bring a case to you asking you to shut down the mail in ballots you. GonNa. Are you GonNa do that and she'd say we'll know that would be unethical. I'm certainly not GonNa shut that down. Yeah. He's still would've nominated her totally he has no interest of his own heart. All of that is is so clear I don't know maybe that's why in your intro you said this is so boring but yeah, kind of because. She is it's the same it's the same you know. Situation with Supreme Court nominee evading the questions you know answering. Specific questions regarding constitutionality by just discussing what she would do procedurally. Yeah. Yeah. We know we know how the Supreme Court Works, okay we're asking you for you to weigh in on what the constitution says about the president unilaterally delaying the election. This is not difficult but of course, going to the question as she does in the next video, we show you when it comes to Donald Trump and his. The possibility of refusing a peaceful transition of power. Should a president commit themselves? Like our founding fathers I think had a clear intention. Like the grace of George Washington showed. To the peaceful transfer of power, is that something that president should be able to do? One of the beauties of America from the beginning of the Republicans that we have had peaceful transfers of power and that disappointed voters have accepted the new leaders that come into office. And that's not true in every country and I think it is part of the genius of our Constitution and the good faith and goodwill of the American people that we haven't had the situations that have arisen in. So many other countries where there have been those issues have the president. Oh good. Congratulations. President Hinting that he will not have a peaceful transition of power is unprecedented congratulations. You realise that now, why don't you answer the question? What was that? Like. I don't need a history lesson I don't need a comparative analysis between the United States and some other country I need to know what your thoughts are on an incumbent president losing the general election and refusing a peaceful transition of power. What are your thoughts on that? I can get I mean the whole thing it just feels so pointless at this point apparently, it can't be stopped. We knew we knew before the first hearing why she'd been chosen and more importantly we knew everything we need to know about ethics the fact that she was willing to be a party to this process three and a half weeks before the election after so many people have already voted the. Fact that she was willing to stand for a spot on the Scotus under that told us what we need to know about our ethics. She will do whatever she needs to do to get that position. She's obviously made promises and she's ready to make good on them and you know just going back to the constitution which she claims to value What does the constitution say about the transition of power? Well? The terms of the president and the Vice President shall end at noon on the twentieth day of January and the terms of their successors shall then begin. That is what the US. Constitution says the Twentieth Amendment when it comes to title three section one chapter one of the US code here's what it says about a peaceful transition of power the electors of president and vice president shelby appointed in each state on the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November in every fourth year succeeding. Every election of a president and vice president. So it's a very wordy way of saying, Hey, Joe the person who loses needs to do this, and the person who wins needs to do that and Let's go ahead and follow through on what our so-called democracy Requires us to do when someone lose those loses an election, but she evades that question and she evades it by either talking about procedural things. She did in the previous video, we showed you or giving us a history lesson. Mentioning, unprecedented. This is in her own cute little way. It's just it's pathetic. One more video for you. This was the exchange that she had with Amy Klobuchar on. Voter intimidation. Judge Baron under federal law, is that illegal to intimidate voters at the polls? Senator Klobuchar I can't characterize the Fox in a hypothetical situation. I can't apply the law to a hypothetical set of facts. A can only decide cases as they come to me litigated by parties on a full record after fully engaging precedent talking to colleagues writing an opinion. And so I can't answer questions like. I'll make it easier eighteen USC, five, nine, four outlaws, anyone who intimidates threatens courses or attempts to intimidate threaten our curse. Any other person for the purpose of interfering with the right of such other person to vote. This is a law that has been on the books for decades. Following that Senator Club Hr's threw a stapler. I'm just kidding. No. But. She did a great job with that line of questioning she provided evidence for why it's considered illegal and all conybeare it had to do. There was say voter intimidation at the polls is. That's it. That's it. That's all she had to say but she wouldn't say because the. Yeah. We on for a long time obviously, and we probably will have to in future days. But Yeah No, it's pretty clear what we Yeah situation's Dire but we do need to take a break. Let's take a breather and when we come back, we have more news for you don't miss the support comes from MSNBC as an election year like no other heats up turned MSNBC for the context and clarity you need for big debate nights, election night daily developments. The team at MSNBC will hope connect the dots Rachel Matto Echo Wallace Joy Reid and Brian Williams host coverage of the pivotal moments Steve Kornacki breaks down the latest data at the big board and the road warriors are embedded with the candidates as they make their final appeal to voters the sprint to election days here watch on MSNBC. Hey everybody. Welcome back to t an-and John With you before we get to our wonderful stories of voter suppression John has some more comments to share with you all. So John Take it away I do there's so many of them all. Build a track and trace army and the members said the Republican Senate would stop the bill. Wouldn't it be good politics to pass the bill in the House to have the Senate stop and Republicans lose the Senate apparently Pelosi is not so confident. The Senate would block it but they have passed bills in the house any number of times, right? What you're saying, but also let me just let me stop right there. Well, the one thing that I am concerned about is. How much funding is there as we found out through the cares act there was a huge amount of that money dedicated to bailing out huge corporations right and so there's still a question mark because we haven't seen the actual bill we've seen summaries of the bill we've seen what trump claims. The bill will say but one of the things that I'm kind of getting frustrated with is how much of this money is going to go toward more bailouts for corporations, and so it really does depend on the priorities in both bills but I hear what you're saying if it's A great bill and Nancy Pelosi just rejects it simply because she thinks that it's going to be rejected by the Senate. That's a bad move like. McConnell take the fall. Why are you taking the fall I? That's a good point. Totally. We've a couple of big super chats including from. Prescott Small Liu says, you know those cops turn Brioni place inside out to find any one little thing that could be used to justify their actions. Also, what about the forest gentrification claims that seems to have disappeared any update on that investigates. I believe them on the gentrification claims, but that's a really interesting topic to explore I will look into it and see if I can find anything to share with you guys. Thank you for bringing that up wing way also says, take my stimulus. Funny. Haven't gotten it yet but yeah, and Imitation Asian says glad to seal back in the studio on this the day of my thirty four th birthday. Thank you all do I can't say it enough love you guys. Love, you guys. I'm happy that we're here and happier enjoying the show. Exactly. You won't enjoy this next story though so Up. Let's get to it. Turns out that an appeals court has decided to re implement an awful policy in the state of Texas. That would limit the number of. Drop off locations in the state to one location per county. This was a new order by Texas Governor Greg. And it's absolutely disastrous when you consider the fact that some of the more populous. Counties will only have one drop off location to. Drop off their ballots. So it could be a problem especially when it comes to sorting and counting those ballots. Now, the Appeals Court concluded that Texas is actually expanding voting even though abbots move limited mail-in ballot drop boxes to one per county in a state where some counties are bigger in areas. Then some states and other counties have larger populations than some states. So the order reversed a move by a federal judge to expand the opportunities voters have to hand in mail in ballots in person at least a handful of Texan counties some of them with populations larger than some states had planned to set up multiple sites for ballot drop off now in the beginning of the pandemic. Governor Abbot. was like, yeah, we're GonNa vote by mail, and so we need to increase the number of ballot drop off locations that's important to do. But then he realized Oh wait hold on things are looking so great for my buddies. So let me just go ahead and unilaterally limit the number of locations to one per county, and luckily federal judge had stepped in and blocked Abbott from doing this something very similar was implemented in Pennsylvania and a federal judge blocked in Pennsylvania as well. Unfortunately, the Appeals Court the US Court of Appeals for the Fifth District Circuit of Texas reinstated the voter suppression that Greg initially wanted to implement. Exactly and I think the same thing might have happened in Ohio as well. So he technically expanded it by allowing the ballot drop boxes at all even that is for Texas. It's like Oh my God, they're making it easier to vote how amazing and then they realized either what you said that things aren't looking great for their buddies because it's Looking like it's GonNa be great for Texas. Or Donald Trump began and months-long campaign demonize literally anything that makes it easier to vote during the election and he doesn't want to appear to be out of step. With the president. But really what he's done is the perfect thing specifically for Republicans in Texas because in those small counties where there's just one hundred people to people, thousand people, one drop off box in these red rural Texas counties is a pretty big expansion of your ability to vote one of those in Houston is nothing. It doesn't really help much at all a bit hypothetically but not that much. So this is like a barest nod to expanding the vote in the the most prohibitively difficult time to vote in living memory. Disorders possible for blue areas. No it's it's beyond it's beyond frustrating. There's so transparent like avid is so transparent about what he's trying to do here It's no surprise that the more populated parts of Texas lean democratic and as a result, he wants to make it even more difficult for people to vote in those areas of Texas, I want to go to this cartoon that really perfectly illustrates what the situation entails. So this cartoon you know how shows how under this order like loving. On the west side of Texas, which has a population of one hundred, sixty nine people has the same number of male and drop-off boxes. As Harris County on the east side of Texas, which has a population of four point seven million people. So, you can see the disparity there. You can see the problem, right? So this is what we're dealing with, and by the way people WanNa vote Luckily, it seems like citizens are very aware of these attempts to suppress the vote and so right now we're seeing these insane lines when it comes to early voting and it just really demonstrates First of all, how difficult it is to vote because you're going to be waiting in these long lines but it also shows how defiant people are and how motivated they are to cast their ballots So even the they're going to be standing in those long lines. Two of you. Either vote in person or drop off their ballots they're motivated to do it, and that's that's a pretty good sign. Jon. Any final words before we move on. No I'm looking for any good signs though. That ninety seven percent registration in Travis County is like the most amazing thing that I've heard and I really hope it bears out in the election. Yeah I think the one thing I will say is the media has done a decent job in covering these stories of attempted voter suppression. If people weren't aware of it I have no doubt that people would wait until election day to show up to either in person voting places or maybe to mail in their ballots but people are. Voting, early I know that I got my mail in ballot I'm going to turn it in very soon just want to make sure I really fully understand those ballot initiatives they can get tricky but you know educate yourself as much as you possibly can on how to register to vote. If you haven't already how to vote with the voting rules are in your municipality, your state and you know please please please take part in the effort to get that madman out of office because it's important. Even though we don't have the. The perfect candidate on the democratic side it's it's at least someone who values maintaining our democratic process and that's important. Okay. So we have a few more minutes left but not enough time to do a story. I love it. When I do the timing this way, it's really great. We can read some. Comments. Do it. We can totally do that. I'm happy to well first of all let's acknowledge the people on twitter being awesome including opium Kanobi is continuing to gift. Subscriptions she's up to nine, hundred, twenty three, which is just amazing. But also to people who've resubscribe including Central Committee Wooden Monkey God. Queen Witch Dobbs, Merck, and other stories. Thank you for that. We also had some comments on twitch. trollope said, congrats John for being back in studio not just us by the way but also Edwin Bar Mike and Dave out there. They're much more spaced away but it's nice to see more faces here. trashy plays asks why Hilo didn't get a murphy bed. was a bid for Hilo. The whole thing. And key John says, what do you think would happen if trump in Biden's town halls or at the same time and Biden had better ratings I just don't think that that's going to happen. Either I wanted to just say that NBC news is pathetic for agreeing to hold a town hall with Donald. Trump. Essentially rewarding donald trump for his bad behavior and the fact that he was stout of a debate with Joe Biden. The fact that they're going to go ahead and play ball with trump and hold a town hall literally at the exact same time that binds doing his town hall. It's just pathetic and it shows you what the huge downside is of these. Media companies that just want to turn a profit and don't care all that much about doing what's right for our democracy for the American people why are you rewarding donald trump like it just doesn't make any sense. Yeah and look Townhall with Biden I gotta be honest. It's probably not going to be very entertaining. It's not gonNA pull in a bigger audience because Donald Trump is a train wet wreck everyone knows it. So I would argue that he's likely to have higher ratings but not because people like or respect him post-game next dot com slash join.

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Remembering Bucky Pizzarelli, Adam Schlesinger, Ellis Marsalis

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Remembering Bucky Pizzarelli, Adam Schlesinger, Ellis Marsalis

"From whyy in Philadelphia. I'm terry gross with fresh air. Today we remember three people from the music world who died this week of Cova nineteen. I will listen to interviews with the Great Jazz Rhythm Guitarist Bucky Pitzer rally. Who Was Ninety? Four will here in. Nineteen ninety-two interview and performance and a two thousand six interview with Bucky and his son guitarist and singer. John Zarrella later we'll hear what whitten and Bradford Marsalis said on our show about their father. Pianist and educator Ellis Marsalis who has died at age eighty five and we'll hear an interview with Adam Schlesinger. Who was fifty two? He Co founded. The Band fountains of Wayne wrote songs for the Tom. Hanks film that thing you do. And when three emmys for his songs for the TV series crazy ex girlfriend. If wherever a today we're going to remember three people from the music world who died this week of the corona virus. We start with jazz guitarist. Buggy PITZER rally. He died Wednesday at age. Ninety four he was one of the Great Rhythm Guitarist listening to him. Play was like listening to a history of Jazz Guitar. He played with Benny Goodman GIOVANNUCCI. Stephane Grappelli zoot Sims Frank Sinatra Tony Bennett Rosemary. Clooney and Peggy Lee. He played in the tonight show orchestra when the show was broadcast from New York. In an era in studio musicians were in demand he was one of the most sought after he also recorded with his son guitarist and singer John Pits Rally will hear an interview with John and Buggy a little later. But we'll start with a nineteen ninety two interview and performance. We recorded at the Museum of Television and Radio New York in front of a studio audience. Let's get started with a tune. Why don't we start with a ballot? I like to do a number written by Ray Noble. Call the very thought of you. Tom ooh ooh Great I should mention. Your Guitar is not the kind of skinner guitar. It's a seven string guitar developed by George. Absolutely lives in California at the moment. So what do you do with the seventh strengh? Well it's good for accompanying if I'm playing with other guitars or a singer I'm doing this That gives me a base that It's like a Bass Guitar playing together. Without the seventh stringer would just sound so it gives it that the low note. That's nice speaking of which you are one of the Great Rhythm Guitar Players For for our listeners. Who Don't know what we mean when we say Rhythm Guitar play a little bit of Rhythm Guitar Shots Rhythm Guitars and the very most important thing and playing the guitar if I advise anybody that wants to play guitar. Learn how to play the chords. I that's how I learned You know in the old days of gene. Autry on radio. He was doing it. But it's very important to to To know the cords You know it's funny but It's important a lot of younger. Tars start playing Solos and they forget about playing courts and I'll show you give an example. How Freddie Green probably the greatest the Rhythm Guitar Player with the Count Basie Orchestra played rhythm? And if you listen to any of the old count basie band the most predominant thing of the band and the sound of the band is the Rhythm Guitar. And he's only playing a notes in a chord not a full court Not doing that. He's playing What's what's the hardest thing of playing with her? Well getting a beat out of it. You become a drummer. I want spot. And if you don't come down after that after the Bass player plays a downbeat You're you're playing the second and fourth beats of the bar of music and the it's their commitment. If it's a slow at the slower to song is the harder it is in the. You better be right when you come down with it. Yeah you've had such an interesting career just playing with all the jazz musicians doing all the studio where I can't believe you're on sessions with Dion and the Belmont you into the music or was it just a Gig a lot from from from a lot of those people because in those days mostly everybody was trying to play jazz. Gigs or play with dance bands and spans just fading in and everybody was migrating back to New York. If you guitar they put you on a rock and roll date. You know. A lot of people don't know that Some of the best jazz guitar players are on the on the best rock and roll dates or any castles. George Barnes Tony Mottola and the Mondello. We all did sessions every day and we never have the kind of guitars that the kids are buying today to. Plato says we had all jazz guitars. I put it on a teenager in love to see it here you when I heard what sounded like a Banjo. All those dates were there were more or less faked one who have three or four guitar players and one we go to another guy go missiles days when there was a lot of studio work. It isn't like that anymore. I didn't like it because it got the music. We only played three. You do that was bucky. Pitzer rally recorded in front of a studio audience in Nineteen ninety-two as a museum of Television and radio in New York. He died Wednesday of the corona virus at the age of ninety four. After we take a short break we listen to the interview. I recorded with Bucky and his son guitarist and singer John Zarrella in two thousand six. This is fresh air support for NPR and the following message come from our sponsor target entrepreneur. Ray Phillips reflects on the mentorship and friendship. He's received from target supplier diversity lead Mike Alexander. It was awesome to have a person like Michael to have him help us on our journey with growing relationship with target and every step of the way he's just been instrumental in our growth in understanding the process and it's been an awesome relationship from the beginning learn more about how target supports diverse entrepreneurs at target dot. Com slash founders. We love. Let's get back to our remembrance of Jazz Guitar Bookie Pitzer Rally who died of the Corona virus Wednesday at the age of ninety four. His Son John. Zarrella is also a jazz guitarist as well as a singer whose performed on our show several times in two thousand six after John recorded an album that also featured his father. They joined us together for an interview. We're about to hear. The album was called dear Mr Sinatra. We started with a song from the album. Can't we be friends? The mud dreams With scenes this is how the story she's GonNa turn it down and say can't we be odd not for once? It couldn't go wrong. Not Fun. Law Pied Kinsey the way this and she's going to turn it down and say can't we? Be Friend. That's from John Pitzer. Elliot's new CD dear. Mr Sinatra heard John Singing and Buggy Pirelli His father featured on guitar. Welcome both of you back to fresh air. Thank you nice to be here. John on the liner notes of your new CD. Thank your father for the best thump in the business. What do you mean by that trump? You hear throughout the record is Is just the way he plays Rhythm Guitar. I think that the sound of his guitar is the heartbeat of the whole band. Jeff Hamilton will tell you to how great that sound of. That is as a drummer to hear that rhythm. Guitar sound is It's really thrilling to me. Actually and I just love the sound of it and a lot of people call it a chunk what I call it a thump. Because it sort of it's more of a heartbeat to me than it is anything else so. I call the thump. I love his thump. John you play Rhythm Guitar Yourself. So why do you prefer on this album for instance to have your father playing? Because he's because he's better than me so if you have if you have somebody who's better than you at Rhythm Guitar it's always good especially if he's related because he'll work for scale in this case That's really the reason I mean. He's the best doing what he does. So I always try to hire the best musicians and I can play rhythm guitar but not like him Buggy when when John was a boy. Did you think at some point that when you'd be playing on his records in addition to him playing on yours not ever thought of that you know he had a little? Bam and every time the band rarest in the garage the cops would show up and it was so loud seriously. Yeah this must have been rock and Jazz Maria before they couldn't park the car in the garage so John. What were you playing in the garage? When the police were coming playing Our Band just played songs that we could play it at three or four chords. So he played the allman brothers We played a semantic Clapton and mostly Peter Frampton. I liked him in the Eagles and James Taylor and Jackson Browne and those kind of bands and we like to play outside in the summer. And that's what got us in a lot of trouble from playing outside. So what got you from there. Back into the kind of jazz that your father had played. Well he never said any of that was bad. I just didn't like the volume so we know that was the thing. We love music so much and then he said in an interview once years ago and I didn't even realize it is that I had learned Chick Korea Spain off of a record to play with a bunch of our friends at a talent show. The kid wanted to play it on the trombone so we all learned it and he was impressed that I learned this difficult song off the record. Because that's how I learned songs rock songs that's one Jangle Reinhardt Less than came up. I learned the Rose Room off of Jangle Reinhardt. Record and then I learned some of the duets that he did with George Barnes off the record so I got two gigs with him and then I would do my rock and roll gigs. He said I was the only jazz musician who who played jazz to support his rock. And Roll Habits Becky one when John was a boy. Did you intentionally try to do things to expose him to music? And to the music that you particularly loved I've probably heard a lot of it just in the course of things but you know like some people will actually like make sure that they're playing certain records to their children. Their children are around so that no you know actually. We had a lot of people come over the house like a Giovanetti and the zoot Sims. Benny Goodman's over many times And when they saw these big figures you know I think it made it being impression especially Suit Stars. You know so that was That was the thing too if you really wanted to speak my father's language ETA learn songs you had to learn. Honeysuckle rose sweet Georgia Brown and Rose Room. Because that way you could get in on the jam session you know otherwise. You're sort of outside the circle bucky. Where things you didn't want to expose John. About your musician friends Do they have any like bad habits or a crude language that you didn't want to expose your son to though I mean they heard that in high school anyway so it was probably worse than high school. You know everybody. Everybody was gentle gentlemanly around the house. Zoot sims was one of the greatest guys. To hang around he would like to play Ping Pong we played ping pong with him. And he was drinking scotch the whole time but we never thought anything about him drinking scotch you know and hanging out all day with US store and Ovaltine every night. That was the everybody was fun John. How old were you when you started playing with your father I guess had to be sixteenth seventeenth. Eighteenth somewhere in. There is one I. I would come on at the end of gigs that he would do a solo concerts and play either chicken swinging stagefright or Honeysuckle rose. Those are like the three things that I knew. How did you feel about that? John How did you feel about playing with your father? Oh I always loved it. That was fun for me to go to the gigs. I I loved here and a play and whoever he was playing with was fun so I loved going with them to record dates. When I was a little kid I could sit in the studio all day and listen to play and and and Bucky. What was it like for you to bring your son Onstage convinced he was really talented at this point. I did it. Just feel like I'm GONNA give my son a little showcase because a lot of parents just want to show passion. I know he has a passion to want to play. I I knew so I didn't want to stop them from doing anything you know. And then if I brought him up on stage I know what he was going to play so it worked out which on your new CD is songs associated with Frank Sinatra. But I WANNA go back to an earlier CD of duets between the two of you and this is an album called contrast that was released back in nineteen ninety eight and I thought we'd play stage fright which is a composition that was originally recorded as duet by the guitarist. Carl Kress and Dick McDonough. So how did you start working this up together as do it well it was a part of the repertoire of Pirelli family. I learned from my uncles. And they told me. Listen to Dick McDonough. And Carl Kress and listening to George. Van APPs and Allan Reuss and the WHO had the original records of of Carlin. Dick playing the old seventy eight so we listened to them and then we found the music somehow and all of a sudden we start playing. Yeah he had like a third generation photocopy of of stage fright and chicken swing and he originally. It's it is part of the pits earlier. Pretoria my sister. Mary originally played the parts. The second part that I play on this recording he would sit down and say. Here's what you gotTa do and we'd learn. We do eight bars at a time and I get hit over the head a couple of times but by the end we have it all worked out when it was. This is really like one of the first things that we played together. Okay well this is Buckey pitzer rally and John Zarrella father and son from a nineteen ninety eight album. Called contrast Lou How would you describe Your Guitar? Styles how would you compare them? Bucky how would you compare your style on jobless? I started back in the thirties. One I was thinking less than from my uncles. Peter and Bobby Dominic and and Bobby Was on the road with a Lotta dance pants. Clyde McCoy Buddy Rogers Frank daily every time. He came off the road during the depression. He had a little dodged anti Gabardine suit on and a big beautiful Gibson Guitar and boy. My eyes opened up and next thing. He showed me a few chords that nobody in paterson ever saw so That's what got me started. I just followed his career. I said when I get older I like to do the same thing and Luckily when I was seventeen I I got out of high school and I went with Monroe's band Only to be drafted in about four months later but I did get a taste of it when I was a kid. So you're a product of the big bands. Oh Yeah I mean. Everything was a big band Setting from me John. How would you compare your style to your father's well I think He was like you said he's sort of more of a product of guys all playing together and and learning from my my father. His uncle's I learn more offer records and then from playing with my father We have the seven string guitars with the low A. It's a regular guitar with a on it that George Van EPS had invented and we got the guitars and learned that and we could accompany each other because we the bass notes and I think that my guitar styles a little. It's a little You can. It's just a little more a little coarser it's got a little more point to it. I think he's more of a chord melody and There's more of a real sensitive style to the way he plays. You know it's funny though is that I had. He came to a Gig that we did once and He played my guitar called them up to play my guitar And played couple of Solos on and when he played my guitar which is a different brand and Just different everything and he played guitar any sounded like him on his guitar so I was like well. That's obviously not the Ktar something inside his hands. That's where his sound comes from so there's something about his style that captures every guitar player listens to Bucky and John Zarrella recorded in two thousand six buggy pits. Ereli died of the Corona Virus Wednesday at the age of ninety four. We send our sympathies to John and the rest of Bugis family and friends. After we take a short break we remember to other people from the music world who died of cove in nineteen this week. Pianist and Educator Ellis Marsalis the Patriarch of the music family that includes whitten and Bradford Marsalis and Adam Schlesinger who co founded. The Band fountains of Wayne wrote songs for the movies that thing you do and music and lyrics and for the TV. Show crazy ex girlfriend. I'm Terry Gross. And this is fresh. Air Bird BURN TAP. After when the economy goes Haywire Planet. Money is here to make sense of it for you. From the big bailouts to the tiny details of vaccine stockpile. One of the first thing we did was secure a large number of chicken plots so these are like hard working government chickens hard work in government chickens that's NPR's planet money podcast. Listen now. We're going to continue our remembrance of some musicians we lost this week to nineteen Adam. Schlesinger was fifty two when he died. Wednesday a Stephen Thompson of NPR music wrote Schlesinger's work spread joy and kind hearted humor. He Co founded. The Band fountains of Wayne was nominated for an Oscar for writing the title. Song for Tom. Hanks film that thing you do wrote so the Drew Barrymore Hugh Grant Rom Com music and lyrics and won three emmys for his songs for the TV series. Crazy ex girlfriend. He also co wrote a song that I think is one of the Best Tony. Awards ceremony moments ever. It was in two thousand eleven when Neil Patrick Harris hosted here's Harris performing that song it's a tribute to Broadway called. It's not just for gays anymore. If you feel like someone just world excludes it's no longer only for dudes attention every reader your invited to than theater. It's not just for gays anymore of Broadway is beckoning straits pulled through Mary. In all states where asking every rotate gets unnoticed gays upstanding Christians onboard. Its first all minded businessmen earn for some down your playboy go make a plan pick Gulf playbill and feel like a man. There's so much do discover with different gender lauber. It's not just for days. As and the Jews and cousins in from out of town you the muse embittered malcontent to the reviews and also foreign tourists the senior citizens and well-to-do suburban Knights and liberal intellectuals that group is really only doosan homosexuals. I've lost my train of thought. Oh yes that was Neil Patrick Harris hosting the tonys in two thousand eleven singing a song co written by Adam Schlesinger and Dj Javer Baum a former head writer for the daily show with John. Stewart in one thousand nine hundred nine. I spoke with Schlesinger and his partner in the band. Fountains of Wayne Chris Collingwood. We started with the title track of the album they just released. Utopia parkway well. I've been saving for a custom been playing in Betas and I'd say her name Collingwood Adams lessons. You're welcome to fresh air with. Was the story behind the song. The song is about a guy who's playing in a cover band and is sort of a little bit too old to be playing in a rock band but can't quite give up the dream of it and it was kind of making fun of myself. You know the absurdity of what we do in a way. But you know he's just he's talking about the idea that he's GonNa take over the town he's GonNa make it into New York and conquer the big city before you guys are actually Succeeded as a band. Did you think that You're going to be in this perpetual state of adolescence and making a ban but being stuck in that place You know it's it's so hard to say. Did you ever think that you'd be stuck in perpetual adolescents? Like being being in a rock band Some something we can't help you know. Try to be an adult about it but it is sort of a ridiculous thing to be doing and I think we actually write about a lot of adolescent sorta teenage scenarios and things but for us. It's almost more. Because it's it's what's traditionally done with the form and we're really interested in you know the form of pop songs and I'd rather right about high school prom or something then ten right about a mid life crisis you know paying taxes exactly tax time again at that time of year. Right that's on is from your new CD and I'm wondering if you think that you've headed in a new direction on the new CD from the first one For us it's not really a new direction. It's actually more of an old direction because we played in a series of band together before we even started fountains of Wayne. I mean we've been playing together in one form or another since eighteen and The stuff that we did originally was was more kind of. I don't know how to describe it. I mean less rock and more pop. Maybe you know And I think that's where this record has gone. Which in a weird way. It feels like kind of back to our roots. I mean we made our first album. We went into a studio with a Marshall Amplifier. And just made a lot of noise and we had never really recorded anything like that before and so to us. You know it was like this Big Rock Extravaganza. Although it probably doesn't sound like that to your average teenager probably sounds like wimpy pop and but but on this record we wanted to have You know different different kinds of textures on the record. Some subtler stuff. Some slightly more introspective stuff mixed in with the kind of Jokey Fund loud stuff. Well don't sell that first album short. I really like it and I don't mean it that way. I mean I you know. The first album was just. It was written in about a week. It was recorded in about another week and it was just this kind of blast of energy and I think it's great. I think it's you know it's the perfect way to approach. I record just have a good time and you know. Create this kind of blueprint for yourself. But but we. We wanted to try to Expand on that a little bit and not. Just do the same thing again when when that came out when you're first rookie came out Rock rubber CRISCO said that That he thinks you sing the kind of words every shy guy who didn't get the girl thinks of and I think a good illustration of that point is the song. Leave the biker. Which is a really catchy. Catchy Song Why don't why don't we play that this leave the Biker from the first fountains of Wayne CD place? He's got leather and tattoos scars all over his view. The crazy frog got man a splash. Show the by. The by brick is hard baby. Please leave the by the bugner. That's the first fountains of Wayne. Cd You think Robert CRISCO is onto something. Do you think of yourselves as former CIA guys who didn't get the girl. I think there's a lot made out of that actually And it's funny too much. I mean well. I think that if people are really eager to call you geek. Rock or whatever sort of lumps you into this convenient category which which ignores subtler aspects of some of the songwriting. Which which not that. That's the most subtle song know. I mean to some degree of might have been a mistake to put that song on the record because I'd hate to sort of go down in history is this. Is this joke. Songwriter and L. But it's catchy. I don't think I think it's a good song no it isn't I mean. I think I think the thing is that you know. Obviously that song supposed to be fun and and a lot of them are but at the same time you know People especially in America. I think more so even than in Europe. Assume that any voice that you have in a song is you confessing. You know your inner thoughts and the idea of writing from the perspective character or something a little bit confusing to people so a Lotta Times. There are songs written. That are not literally supposed to be speaking our minds and that that sometimes gets missed. It was nice nice lines in the song like the line about the guy having crimson his beard from the seafood special. I think the main thing with that whole sort of Geeky sort of tag or whatever is that neither of US would be comfortable writing song. That had a really kind of macho aggressive pose to definitely does come more naturally to us to write from like a week or perspective and just maybe it's just because it makes the song more sympathetic or something. Well there's that line I wonder I wonder if he's ever cried because he couldn't get a date for the prom. Then there's a promise on the new CD. Also that I think is kind of mocking that stereotyped emotion. You're supposed to have on the problem like this is the crowning moment of my life. And after this I'm GonNa like have a receding hairline and work all the time and life will be over. It's it's like the oldest cliche in the book about here supposed to feel on Prom night. Yeah I I I actually went to to high school. Proms I went to my own and then I went to the prom at the high school. My girlfriend at the time went out on Long Island and they were both pretty much identical kind of suburban prompts and even even though I was only whatever seventeen at the time I was already too cynical to enjoy it so I kind of ruined it for both of us. She never really forgave me. You know I think that was the beginning of the end of our relationship. How did you first meet? You've been playing together a long time. We met in college. We're both I think about. Nineteen at the time we and we've sort of been playing in bands ever since then. We had about ten different bands throughout since about nineteen nine or actually nineteen eighty. Seven's or seven. Yeah to the present most of which were incredibly terrible and they all had really horrible names and we used Change Our Name. You know once a week because people. It's always wants to advertise with the same name. They'd never come back recalled. Woolly mammoth three. People who in standing side-by-side have a wingspan of over twelve. Feet are are you my mother. Are You my mother? Why did you call the ban? That that's a children's book actually Yeah Green Light. Go another children's book. The silly thing is that fountains of Wayne was just one of these pot. You know in the pile of names that we would just kind of rotate nat. That ended up being the one that we got stuck with. But I kind of prefer. Are You my mother? Actually we should switch it. Well how did you come up with of Wayne? And why is that the name that stuck Fountains of Wayne is is a store in the town called Wayne New Jersey which is near where I grew up and I think it was something that my mother actually suggested at some point. I'm she works out ten years ago while we were probably while we're tossing around all these bad band names and she was always full of really horrible ideas for you know things. We should do to help the band out so she would suggest these terrible names and we'd say okay. That's a horrible band name and she would also say things like you know. Why don't you guys? Why don't you guys play shows where you have to pianos on stage and you can both play piano? And that'll be your gimmick. I just say I really don't have time to explain why that's a bad idea right now but some at some point I will. My family was always saying. Oh you know. Why don't you go on that David Letterman show? That seems to do those bands. A lot of good wishy offering you. Just you know I was her idea for promotion. Your knowledge of of Rock and pop goes back a long way. And I'm wondering. What would you remember the first records you each bought? The first full length l. p. ever allowed to buy was was bat outta hell by MEATLOAF. My parents had all those Beatles record sitting around and stuff but I remember I think I was in sixth grade. When Bat Outta Hell came out. Was that record. Motorcycle on the cover was just so excellent The first record I ever bought. Was THIS EXERCISE RECORD. That they made us by and first grade has called chicken fat. Oh Oh God that record Australia pushups every morning ten times now and then ten times you exercise to it and then they'd also make you buy chicken right back. Give the chicken fight back to the chicken and don't be chicken again. I can't believe you're the only person I've ever mentioned this to that knows what the Hell I'm talking. I WanNa know what kind of fascist elementary she can fight chickens fat fat. Was this really funny. Kill all the week students. Strong students will survive kill. It was military style workout record. Yeah that's just horrible so you really liked it. I never said I liked you. Brought it up a you asked us the first record we ever bought only made you buy it. Oh yeah purchase. I should suggest to a record company. That strategy of forcing first graders by album. Because there's a lot of first graders out there you know. And they've all got lunch money. That's a good idea. We could just go rob them instead of wreckage. Why bring this whole record thing into it? Am I have a question for you? You wrote that song that thing you do for The Tom Hanks movie and I thought I thought it was a surprisingly good movie. That had a really kind of knowing and loving sense of of of sixties pop. What how did you come to write? The song was there. Was there at like a national audition being held for the song or not really. I mean it was just Somebody in the music business that I work with a Music Publishing Company heard about the movie and said that you know they were looking for a song. That kind of sounded like this era and Asked me if I wanted to take a stab at it so I I did a demo recording of it with two friends and we just send it in and you know we did it really quickly because we just kind of seemed it was such a long shot wasn't worth spending that much time on But you know they actually listen to it and they actually liked it so it was a lucky break and the movie is about Aban. That's a one hit wonder and the only hit that they have is the song that thing you do. And it's a really catchy record. What did you think about when you wrote the song knowing that it needed to be period song? Well the obvious reference for the time here. They were talking about was the Beatles but they actually had as part of the instructions for it and said that we'd rather have it sound like an American ban kind of a cheap imitation of the Beatles You know because they were a lot of bands sprouting up then the knickerbockers. Yeah that kind of stuff. You know trying to capitalize on on what the Beatles had done so that. That's what that's what I was going for Adam. Schlesinger and Chris Collingwood founded the Band fountains of Wayne. Our interview was recorded in nineteen ninety. Nine Schlesinger died Wednesday of cove nineteen. He was fifty two our sympathies to his family and everyone who was close to him. Here's the thing you do. I love this song. Hardly a million views always. Joan gets you after a break. We'll remember musician. And Educator Ellis Marsalis and here are a couple of the things his sons whitten and Bradford said about him on our show. This is fresh air right now. Every household in the country is being asked to fill out. The census is the form that helps us determine how voting districts are redrawn where to build public schools and hospitals how to spend federal money. So why are some people afraid to fill it out? We're getting into that this week on. Npr's which podcast. Hi It's Terry Gross inviting you to check out our new online archive collecting forty years of fresh air interviews and reviews. You can hear my interviews with people like David Bowie aretha Franklin Johnny Cash. John Updike Tony. Morrison searched for names. You're interested in make a playlist for yourself or friends at fresh air archive dot org. That's fresh air archive dot org. We end today show of remembrances by listening to what Wynton and Branford Marsalis had to say on our show about their father pianist and educator. Ls Marcellus who died of covert nineteen. On Wednesday. He was eighty. Five else. Was the patriarch of one of New Orleans. Most famous jazz families that also included his sons. They'll feio and Jason in two thousand eleven the National Endowment for the arts named L. S. Marcellus. And as for musicians son's jazz masters. That was the first time. The highest honor for an American jazz musician was actually given to a group. Here's an excerpt of my two thousand two interview with Branford Marsalis in which he spoke about his father. You grew up in a in. What is now? America's probably most famous jazz family. The marsalis family. Your Father Ellis. Marsalis is a pianist when when you were growing up liking the pop music that you liked. Did you feel about his music? The way say I felt about my father's old Benny Goodman records. I felt about my father's music the way my next door neighbor felt about his father. The chauffeur driver that was just what he did. How did you feel about your father? Your I really dislike them until I got much. Older Jr is not for kids. There's an argument. My brother says jazz can be kid. I don't think just as a level of sophistication that's just way too hip for kids. It's not music for kids and it certainly wasn't a music for me but it wasn't like he planning I'd go. Are we just leave the room? He just didn't care. Turn on the television in the other room until it was my turn to listen to my music and then I put on Cheech and Chong and Elton John James Brown and whatever I wanted to put on my father would stay out and then when James Brown came on you come in and say yeah. Yeah Jack I like that and then he would always dance to it when he did. He would snap his fingers on two and four. Which is the funniest thing sweats going on? You know like a cold sweat dot dot dot to ban do to go. Yeah No Dad. Just money on the one. Classic that was Branford Marsalis talking about his father. Ellis here's what. Wynton Marsalis had to say about Ellis Marsalis on our show in Nineteen ninety-four Father Ellis Marsalis that pianist. He he played mostly in New Orleans was up by choice or by necessity. I think it was merely by by necessity. It was hard for him. It's hard to get gigs. I playing jazz music. And he struggling in New Orleans. So I'm sure. If he had the choice he wouldn't have chosen to to to stay in the city would five or six children and try to make it. You know economic live and local jazz musician. That was that was hard for him till you would prefer it to be on the road just any any any way to play and make more money. He was making to to support his family more. I'm sure he would have preferred that. Did that discourage you from becoming a jazz musician? No because you know my daddy loved the music and I remember asking him once when he like was down this last Gig. He was contemplating driving care. We'll get some tab day job whether he regretted playing jazz because nobody really liked to hear that kind of music and he said no and he was very emphatic. About how much he loved the Music. I defined a lot of visit. Doter put things in focus for him and you know now ours is thirteen or fourteen so I really philosophical implications of what he was saying. I didn't really care too much about that. I just wanted to know if it was yes or no and he was fortunate in that my mother always supported him as a musician and she would complain about the fact that we didn't have money but she always wanted him to play music. She didn't she was never pushing him to get a day job. Will you know you shouldn't have played this music? She was always behind him as a musician. It's probably going to be hard for a lot of people. Understand how pianist or any jazz music musician can go without working in New Orleans but I guess a lot of the New Orleans Music. That paid was a traditional tourist oriented. Jazz Dixieland we we. Don't we just call New Orleans music? Enormous musicians hate to be called dixieland musicians. No but I mean I mean. The commercialization of Rome orlands music. That that's probably whether we're more jobs for you and for the play. The traditional job for a while with the store reveal jazz band. They played in local crazy. Shirley's but then when gig ended he really wants one. Was the modern jazz musician. So you know. He had a very very hard time trying to play like music. Came out of not be Bob. But whatever they didn't ever really invented the term for for the style of they were playing. But it's post pose BEBOP TYPE OF MUSIC. It just wasn't The audience wasn't there for their Wynton Marsalis talking about his father. Pianist and Educator Ellis Marsalis on our show in one thousand nine hundred. Four Ellis Marsalis died of the corona virus Wednesday. He was eighty five our sympathies to his family. And we send our best wishes for recovery to everyone who is sick and her their loved ones and sympathies. To those who have lost loved ones Monday on fresh air. My guest will be Carrie. Washington his starring with Reese Witherspoon in little fires everywhere which streaming on Hulu and as one of the new streaming series. That many people isolating at home are watching Washington also starred in the hit. 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"Welcome friends. You're watching t t with anna. Burian and john zarrella. Hopefully hopefully you guys are having a fantastic wednesday. It's hump day. Means half of the week is gone. Done benito it's party time john. How are you ready for party time. What are we going to do how lena party. We like talk about politics. Damn right no. I'm excited. I'm excited to have you john. I love wednesdays meats and we're going to bring in nando villa to help me host the second hour of the show today and we've got a lot to get to in the second hour. We will be filling you guys in on where the current virus relief package negotiations have landed. It looks like democrats are finally growing a set to end planning on doing things through reconciliation due to republicans being incredibly difficult but now the big question is how will joe mansion respond to a more robust relief package. We'll give you those details and more also later. In the show tucker. Carlson pretends like he doesn't know about white nationalism and white supremacists in america. But we'll give him a little bit of a reminder in case you forgot what happened just a few weeks ago in the nation's capital but for now why don't we start off with the latest update on congresswoman marjorie taylor green and whether or not there will be consequences for some of the hideous things she's been saying so the house of representatives is set to vote on a resolution regarding the committee. Assignments for conspiracy theorist and Freshman congresswoman marjorie. Taylor green a right winger who has basically called for the execution of house speaker. Nancy pelosi who has Called mass shootings in schools false flag operations and who has been supportive of messages advocating for violence against her political opponents now the republicans in the house were hoping that they could avoid a vote on this kind of resolution to strip her of her committee assignments but it became pretty clear that kevin mccarthy the house minority leader was unwilling to really hold her accountable for her actions. So i'll give you the example of what steny hoyer for instance had to say about this in just a minute. But first mccarthy did meet with marjorie taylor green on tuesday. And here's what we know during the two hour meeting tuesday night with green mccarthy explained democrats are threatening to force a vote to remove her from her committees mccarthy said he would speak with house majority leader steny hoyer To try to broker a deal mccarthy would offer to remove green from one committee education and labor if democrats back off a house floor vote to remove her from both Keep in mind that green is also unfortunately sitting on the budget committee in the house of representatives as well now. None of that seemed to work taylor. Green refuses to take any responsibility for her past statements in fact she has been defined and has doubled down on her past statements as a way to fundraise and so The democrats have decided to move forward. Why don't we skip ahead to what we know about. Steny hoyer right now so In a tweet marjorie. Taylor green You know was again incredibly define about everything and then hoyer evidently rejected a deal for mccarthy which would have avoided a floor. Vote on the house now on the house floor. The house will vote thursday on a resolution to strip marjorie taylor green of her committee assignments And again that's according to majority leader. Steny hoyer as of now. The house is all set to vote. It's going to happen And i wanna read this tweet from steny hoyer where he says that. I spoke with leader mccarthy this morning and it is clear there's no alternative to holding a floor vote on the resolution to remove representative green from her committee assignments. The rules committee will meet this afternoon and the house will vote on the resolution tomorrow So john there was this effort to possibly boot her from the house of representatives. Now that appears that most of the focus is on the committee assignments. What do you think about this tactic. As i mean also over on the situation. I think that it's pretty crazy that we went from you know. Katie hill willingly resigned. Because we found out that she had an affair and they're apparently is nothing. You can say or threatened that will take you out of congress now. A lot has changed in the last couple of years in terms of the tactic. I think i. I sort of get why kevin mccarthy is doing what he's doing because fundamental he's not a leader. He's terrified it. What's happening to his party. He has no idea how to manage the situation. He isn't strong enough to actually stand. Against the fact that it's being taken over by the cunanan cultists and all of that so he tried to give her an out and she didn't take it and it would've been very easy. She could have given a really weak statement and for some democrats. Maybe that would have been enough to get them to back off. But she didn't and on the damage where we we went over a couple of different potential explanations for why she wouldn't just say okay. I don't believe in satan as eating babies to absorb their mana or whatever But why do you think she wouldn't just do this. Sort of kind of pathetic half hearted apology. That might save her committee assignments. Why wouldn't you do that. I mean she wouldn't do that because she's honestly a female version of trump. And i think that she does have a pretty good understanding of where the republican base stands on these types of issues and these types of statements. I mean i think that it would be A big mistake to assume that. Marjorie taylor green or cunanan conspiracy theorists just happened to be a small fringe of the republican party. I think that they're pretty representative of republican voters. And there's that side of it. John but i also think there's this element of never apologize that i think proved to be very successful for donald trump at least in the short term. Donald trump never took responsibility for anything. He did wrong. He constantly served as his best his own best. Pr agent by going around all of his success when in reality he failed in every regard especially when it came to his promises to his republican base like building the border wall which ended up being a complete and utter disaster. He didn't accomplish that at all but it didn't matter. Never apologize tout accomplishments that you didn't actually accomplish and the voters will support you no matter what among republican voters trump left with a high approval rating. I'm talking about republican voters specifically. So i think that those two elements are motivating marjorie. Taylor greene's thinking thinking taking place in the first place. Yeah so so then is the explanation. I get the theory about how it helps them. Branding i get. That is it that she either thinks that they're not going to go through with it. And she's in remain on the committees or she thinking that hell. I didn't really plan on doing any work. Anyway what do i want to be on a committee for. I can still technically be a congress person. And i'll be a martyr to i'll have been cancelled as a congressperson. Is she do you. That either of those is representative of thinking. Likely assuming that she's capable of thinking she might try to position herself as a martyr. But i think that that strategy would be far more effective if democrats booted her from the house of representatives. Which by the way. i'm not even entirely sure. They would have the ability to do that right because she would have to make these types of statements in the official record now. She said all sorts of things on social media enduring her private time that are of course incredibly dangerous. Violent problematic But you know based on how democrats have responded to the possibility of booting her from congress. I think they're realizing more and more. That might not even have the ability to do that and so if they did if they successfully kicked her how to congress she was no longer a person in any position of power. I think that she could successfully present herself as some sort of martyr and i think it would be the wrong strategy for democrats because you're giving her the opportunity to make herself out to be some sort of victim you're providing more fodder for the faux outrage that republicans have for cancel culture. And you're also brushing this ideology under the rug. As if it's just marjorie. Taylor green and a few isolated incidents. It's not again. This is actually pretty of republican voters. Right now yes. Someone in the chat. This morning said in response to bill. Hemmer saying she's just a little kooky they're like no zoe chanels kooky marsha taylor green is dangerous. They're not the same thing because they meet you. This is a fascist. Yeah i part of what i'm trying to understand is with any one of these people To what extent is that a useful griff that they're putting on and to what extent are they true believers and. I believe that you can learn a lot by looking. At someone's is not necessarily in the george w bush putin way but when i looked alex jones is i knew that i was looking into the maw of hell and i knew that that was what he really believes with roger taylor green when you watch her videotaped rant that she was putting up before she declared a candidate. It seemed to me like this is this is. This is a genuine random forty year. Old ish blonde woman on facebook saying crazy things. There's a lot of them and she seemed gen- like like genuinely to be one of those like when she's talking about like an international cable. I feel like a gift. Cer- would know that. It's cabal necessarily dave rubin like ask him to pronounce bolsonaro and he's been there are so there are like but anyway. Yeah i i just. I wonder like one of the I believe that she was in sandy hook. It might have been parkland but someone who lost someone. One of those shootings talked to her recently and she said marjorie green behind closed doors. Said she doesn't actually believe that they were all false flags she won't come out and say it publicly but she said to this relative that she doesn't actually believe it. So is that opportunism. I honestly don't know man that is Pretty devastating and remember. She went after. David hogg literally harassing him on camera and he. He witnessed his peers. His classmates get slaughtered in front of him during the parkland shooting and she decided. It's it's a great idea to go ahead and harass him on camera and claimed that the shooting was nothing more than a false flag operation in an attempt to take guns away from americans. There's horrendous behavior. And by the way. John i mean. She has continued to double down on conspiracy theories. Let me provide two of the latest examples. She tweeted filled with members who supported cheered on and funded criminal thugs who riot burn loot attack police murder and occupy federal property members. Who sleep with our greatest enemy. Mary their brother to get him in our country. Lead them a violent mov mob in neighborhoods and more like so. She's that was an attack on ilhan omar. Partly it's absolutely disgusting but when she's mentioning that violent mob that lutes and attacks police. She's not talking about the capital rioters. Who did just that She's repeating disgusting talking points about black lives matter and other activists who took part in demonstrations across the country over the summer in order to do something about a very real problem. We have in this country with excessive force and police brutality. And remind you all for anyone who might think. It's a great idea to join forces with the boys in order to accomplish progressive ideals and values keep in mind that the blue boys would go to these demonstrations and intentionally incite violence. Provoke more violence In order to spark this Fantasy that they have regarding civil war. They didn't do it because they support black lives matter. They did it. in order to pursue their anti-government civil war. And it's just. It's just absolutely disgusting. She. she's not apologetic. all we can really do. John is speculate. As to. What dr sir. But i know that at the end of the day that kind of rhetoric is dangerous her views or what she claims to believe dangerous and and more importantly don't want her to have a position of power in a committee like the education committee where she gets to put whatever crazy conspiracy conspiratorial thought. She has into actual policy in action. So i'm happy with them doing this resolution and possibly stripping her from her committee assignments and i think this is a smart way to do it because you have a floor vote. You're holding republicans feet to the fire are you. Are you going to support this. Are you in favor of this. Because we've seen republican after republican. Go on cable television. They're asked about what their thoughts are on. Marjorie taylor green and they deflect or refuse to answer the question that floor vote. They gotta answer the question. Do they stand by that kind of rhetoric. I guess we're going to see on the most divisive issues of day. Some people vote president. But anyway we'll see sam right. You're right about that. Super super fast to stephen king lost his committee assignments after saying like stuff that was reprehensible. Steve king is like as racist as i could be but i think objectively to stuff he said was less directly threatening to his co workers than marjorie green like. That's that's how much we've moved in just a few years. where steve. It took a lot of took a very long time for them to do anything but they did eventually do something with marjorie green. She's been in office a week. And all of those republicans are terrified of speaking out against the movement that she represents Yeah and that's why i kind of love. I can't wait to see how this floor vote goes down and republicans are panicking because they realized that they need to address this and they're gonna face consequences either way right If you do the right thing and strip marjorie taylor green for committee. Assignments will that you need to deal. With the wrath of The trump supporters trump loyalist But if you go along with marjorie taylor. Green refused to vote to strip her of her committee. Assignments will then you're enabling the kind of behavior in rhetoric that we've seen from her so it's just it's it's an interesting story and i can't wait to see how this develops But they are going to hold that vote tomorrow and we'll fill you guys in of course As learn more about the story but there is a different angle that i want to discuss because one thing that republicans are good at is screaming squirrel to to kind of deflect or find a new scapegoats. So we're not paying attention to their wrongdoings. We'll talk about that a little bit. The gop is now targeting representative ilhan omar in response to house. Democrats attempting to strip conspiracy theorist representative. Marjorie taylor green of her committee assignments. Now there will be a floor. Vote in the house on a resolution to strip her of these committee assignments. She's on the education committee and the budget committee. Little worrying however in response to that the strike back if you wanna call it that is to try to hold ilhan omar accountable for something that she said years ago that she's already apologized for. It's absolutely pathetic. So here. are the details. The house to consider a measure this week. That calls for taylor. Green a controversial first term lawmaker known for her support of cunanan conspiracy theories from her assignment on the education and labor committee a proposed. Gop backed amendment that measure for omar to be removed from her committee assignments. In light of conduct she has exhibited. So what is the conduct that they're referring to well. They're referring to ilhan omar a few years ago. talking about us foreign policy toward israel. And how it's influenced by lobbyists and lobbying groups like a pack and when she tweeted about that she used an incredibly unfortunate phrase. It's all about the benjamins. No she's talking about lobbying but in this context that is a trope an antisemitic trope And whether she. I don't believe that she intentionally used an antisemitic trope. I think that she should have been a little more careful with their wording but she apologized. That's the point Now in this republican amendment they argued omar has made antisemitic comments that are grounds for dismissal. But again here is a tweet featuring her acknowledgement of wrong. Use the phrase wrong use of words. She said listening and learning but standing strong and she shared an explanation of why that trump is is unacceptable right Representative omar later apologized and thank colleagues for educating her on the painful history of antisemitic. Trump's that's according to fox news by the way. So i say all this because there's this equivalency happening right now where i'm seeing it in headlines to john mainstream media headlines were they argue or the frame the situation as if marjorie taylor green just happens to be the right wing version of aoc or ilhan omar. And it's infuriating because it's not even close. It is not the same thing. And i know you to say about this. Yeah yeah there are two. I think pretty understandable reasons why they do that so one is that they are similar in that their new. That's it like and abc and he'll homeownership sleep and others were new a couple of years ago so there's that and The the people in the media making this comparison. We're probably as annoyed with policy based things that homeownership rashid until you've been presley and afc we're doing the first two years as they are with this thing. That marjorie green is doing Marjorie green doesn't have a platform doesn't know about this stuff. It has nothing to do with actual crises. That she's trying to solve anything so substantively there's no comparison As you pointed out. Ilhan omar was censured for that tweet and apologized for it. We can't even get her to apologize for saying nancy. Pelosi should be shot in the head or at least agreeing with that statement and the the. It's the contingency of caring about antisemitism is so disgusting. They know that their banks are full of people that opportunistically support israeli foreign policy goals. And that's about it. That's the end of their interest with All of that and marjorie green. She re tweeted a video laying out a theory for why europe was going to be destroyed because jewish people were bringing lots of muslims to kill europe and all the space laser stuff and jews behind everything and george soros controls every democratic politician. That's what she said. That'll it's incredibly anti semitic trope maybe touching on an antisemitic trope there. No i mean it's impressive. That in one statement she can be both antisemitic and islamophobic like in the same sentence. It's it's and i knew right. I mean again. The difference here is you. Have you know ilhan omar who has good intentions like in what she was tweeting about their she wanted to make a statement about how palestinians are treated again unfortunate that she unwittingly used trope and then again got sense censored censured for it. Apologize for marjorie. Taylor green on the other hand. We have video of her doing and saying islamophobic racist terrible things in fact since we're talking about ilhan omar. Why don't we go back to that. Video of marjorie taylor green before she was elected in office planning to harass rashida to lead and ilhan omar. Because they were gonna swear in using a koran rather than the bible because guess what they're muslim so using a bible kind of wouldn't make any sense right but this is what marjorie taylor greens take. Was this her in the halls of congress. They signed that. They swore in on the korean. Oh with the bible four hundred talk about swearing in on the swearing on the bible with them and let them know what our law says. You can't on the koran so we're gonna explained that you know we're gonna explain about how you can't swear in on the cran and we're gonna have the bible and ask them if they would swear in on the bible that we really seattle. I mean aside from being a hateful person. She's also incredibly ignorant. Just she's just ignorant of our own constitutum that's it. I mean factually dim but also not curious. She's a religious bigot. that's what she is and some religious bigots have now found a second god to go along with god and that is q. And either god's gonna explain everything accused gonna explain everything and when when q gets date wrong. Well q. works in mysterious ways. It's just that's all it is. She's just an old school. Kind of dimwitted. Big who believes everything she reads on the internet. That confirms her views of different social groups. That's it that's all that she is and she and that's all it took for a republican leadership in the congress comic. We can't possibly say anything bad about her. What will happen to us. Years down the line. And i get it. I think it's pragmatic it is taking over their party. That is very very sad. Honestly in the short term it'd be bad for but one of the best things in the long term that maybe could happen. Is trump starting his patriot party in that just becoming the party. Because if that doesn't they're just going to be the republicans and marjorie taylor. Green is not going to be the craziest congress person in two years. They're going to be people running and winning and republican primaries in deep red districts. That believe stuff that's going to make her look saying. Well that's something to think about while we go to break but when we come back Tommy tommy to brazil tub reveal however you pronounce his last name. 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So your your vpn hook safe dot com slash and you also get a discount going to that link all right. I'm going to read a few of your comments now. People in the youtube chat are Sharing that kyle. Rittenhouse has a new arrest warrant and so thank you for providing a link to that story. I'll read more about it. Once i get an opportunity and i'll fill you guys in. Bail has been increased. Two hundred thousand dollars again. Thank you for that. Update jada marjorie taylor. Green doesn't want to write legislation anyway. She just wants to write stupid tweets hustle. Money sounds like the republican party overall to be honest with you. Why does she work harder than trump did his president true. I mean i believe in equality right so if a man gets to do it. Why can't a woman do it. I mean i'm kidding. You get what i'm saying. Spice boy wanna be with that. Fantastic handle rights and says we need to stop saying hold them accountable because that assume that people will self regulate their behavior. They won't let start saying punish them instead. I hear what you're saying. Punish it just. It has a connotation for me at least that's fun and naughty and i don't wanna use punish so maui greg. I sort of few days ago. That and i'll say it again. Harvey milk was murdered by fellow legislator. Not some fringe citizen marjorie taylor. Green is a clear and present danger and has nothing to do with crazy and this has nothing to do with crazy opinions. I agree we gotta get back to the show. Let's do it now. out d- welcome back to ty t. anna casts burian and john zarrella with you general. Who happens to be the host of the damage report. Ty t. network and has a tiktok account and it is growing rapidly so everyone go check out the damage reports and follow the account on tiktok. Fall them at the damage report which makes a lot of sense so any dancing videos are putting up there john. There's uh dancing video okay. We'll see okay dancer and you'll find that out soon All right well. Let's find out what tommy tucker villes is up to. Because he's a mess and doesn't really want to pine on things that are controversial within his own party. So alabama senator. Tommy tucker reveal hasn't addressed conspiracy theorist marjorie taylor green of freshman republican congresswoman. Who very recently said some pretty horrendous things about her political opponents including advocating for the execution of house speaker nancy pelosi and so there are questions about what should happen to essentially punish her for her conduct or behavior and her unwillingness to apologize for these types of and so cnn caught up with senator torvill to ask him any statements. What do you think thoughts. And here's his response. I haven't even looked at what all she's done. I'd have to hold back a statement on that trouble in this weather. It's been a little rough looking at any news or whatever what is he. Israel eighteen ninety five. What are you talking about rush or recently. But like i mean the east coast did a fine job covering the news during the storm. Like what is he talking about. What is he just imagine he like. He's he's traveling home to the district or whatever he's like. He's in his first class seat on the plane. And he's like okay. Tommy boy time to engage with this crisis and he brings out his laptop and he brings up like the the shooting pelosi thing and then the plane shakes like well. That's ruined no. No no you know what you're talking about. Why do they let politicians do this. Mitch mcconnell do what trump tweeted marco rubio new. Whatever and they all know. They're all little scared baby boys and why do we allow it like. It's the most insulting of asian possible. Yeah yeah to have the stuff ready to go. Don't ask about a statement unless you have the statement ready to go because you are dealing with dishonest childish people and so you need to read it to them and make them answer the question. That's a great point. That's actually a fantastic point like the follow up is okay. We'll since you apparently have technology that doesn't work at all and you can't read the news. Allegedly here's what she said. How about a response. That's such a great point but you know. He lied about other things as well. Including denying attending a meeting with trump and his inner circle at the trump international hotel in dc on january fifth. That date is relevant because literally a day later of the capital riots took place and the discussion they were having was in regard to the strategy to overturn the general election. Because these are people who do not believe in democracy. They don't believe in our democratic process. They don't believe in our constitution. I mean that should have been abundantly clear as they were chopping down all sorts of voting rights to make it increasingly difficult for people to take part in our democratic process but social media. Cottam in that lie. Because oh would you look at that. Tommy tucker ville at the trump international hotel in dc on january fifth daniel beck ceo of an idaho. Technology company outed tub ville in a facebook post on january fifth where he wrote quote. The trump hotel is amazing. Fifteen of us spent the evening with donald trump. Junior kimberly guilfoil. Tommy dubber ville michael j lindell peter navarro and andrew. Jeez this is like a clown show and rudy giuliani. We talked about the elections. Illegal votes court cases the republic statues What to expect on the hill tomorrow trump will retain the presidency. So you can kind of understand why tommy ville wanted to deny his presence at that meeting. Is it possible that mike lindell like knows how to party like why they hang out with him way too much just because he agrees with them. There's plenty of people that agree with trump. Why why are they flying across the country to chill with each other. maybe he's like really fun and like he just gets trump and he's a good listener. It doesn't look but yeah. So i don't know all the details of this guy's history but i know that lindell had like a pretty rough past like possibly with addiction if i remember correctly so we'll fact check that right now because i don't want to defame anyone in any way but i know that he like found jesus sending born again christian type people who tend to over correct to to put it lightly so Do i think that he'd be a fun person to hang out with. No not buying it all. He used to yes. He did drugs. I'm not sure what drug that is. Brett head drug opium opioids. Is that what it is crack. Crack crack crack. okay yeah that's what he did. I'm glad that he recovered. I mean that's important. But he's an awful person and part of the reason why he's an awful person is because he's become like a religious fundamentalist. We also believes in insane conspiracy theories and does not believe in our democracy and wants to overturn the results of our election. I get him having that impulse. Why is he on right wing media all the time. Why is he going to the white house. He owns a pillow company. There are plenty of people who make comforters and do vase and stuff like that. That are not this engaged on a daily basis with our political process. It's very weird that he has become a public figure at all and that he's still eat. Trump has already lost. The inauguration has already happened. He was a newsmax last night. As we're going to go over why yeah. I don't know but it is interesting because on the right regardless of how how much of a negative impact a figure could have on your party or your upcoming election. Doesn't matter if you tend to agree with what right wingers tend to believe. They love you. They'll bring you in. They'll celebrate you. They'll put you on television shows though invited to the white house to the trump international hotel. Whatever they'll do it but it is funny to kind of juxtaposed that with the left because on the left it's like you agree with ninety nine point nine percent of what i believe your grafter your your corporate shell like. It's kind of amazing to compare the two. But i would not want the left to be welcoming to lindell types. Even if they tend to believe with us some of what we what we want in the country Yeah so there's that let's move on though to tucker carlson who pretends like he doesn't know about white supremacy in this country when he's a white. Supremacist himself. so tucker. Carlson has been downplaying. The threat posed by leaders in congress or congress people like marjorie taylor green believing in far right conspiracy theories and also advocating for violence against political opponents now. His argument Really revolves around this idea. That the united states doesn't have of violence problem tied to white supremacists and he elaborates on that in this next video. Let's take a look. This freshman member of congress is now the kind of touched on the nation. Maybe inflating her importance beyond what's warranted. I'm just guessing. Yeah also i mean there is not the slightest evidence that she has any any influence of any kind within the republican caucus. If you're if you're in the republican party and you've got somebody who's way out there in your midst. You're going to hear a lot about that person. And you're going to be asked to account for and you're going to be her face her name and face thrown at you again and again by the media. That's the way the game is played in washington. The truth is this has been true for as long as i can remember took. Her republicans operate in a media. Climate is hostile to them. And you have a choice. You can rail against it which many do and sometimes you know we in the media. Do we in one part of the media or you can adjust to adjust to it. Republicans usually do a little of both. Yeah i just think that every republican lawmaker who wants to protect his voters should right on a card three words to respond with two reporters. Who asked about stuff like this buzz off schill. Because that's exactly what they are. They're shells just my view. Your problem what was that mile. That'll really show him shadow. Was that was embarrassed. Dust anyway yeah sh associated. She does them any power like why. Why are the democrats pretending he that she is really important. She has no power. She just apparently can be criticized at all costs by the entirety of republican leadership in the house. They are terrified at the prospect of having to go in terms of actual vote. Go on the record whether you support or don't support her but she doesn't have any power. What's the difference. Wanna just do it and he you know we talk about people in right wing media including tucker carlson and sometimes it just gets so annoying because like we're supposed to craft an argument and sometimes we feel that any inclination to go back and fight a bunch of things that tucker. Carlson said that directly undercut what he's saying right now and sometimes it's just. It's tiring because i would hope that anyone watching this knows that he is fundamentally not operating a good faith that is to his core. What is he knows. Exactly how big hyun has become. She literally believes in it and was elected to congress that matters than objectively matters and let alone all of the other things that she's said so it's just sometimes so deeply frustrating to have to engage in a serious way with a person who doesn't really care about any of this sure he believes. Stephanie says stuff but he's so wealthy that it's all really arm's length anyway it just gets really sickening after awhile. It does get sickening But it's it's important to look. I think it's important to really drive home. The point that people like tucker. Carlson are not good faith actors. They have no interest that in any way agree with or coincide with what progressives want. All of his arguments regarding censorship are self-serving and also i mean he on a consistent like very consistently he goes out of his way to deny what the facts on the ground are. What the reality of the republican party has become with. The culture is dismissive of and accepting of for instance. Marjorie taylor green. I'm going to save every single time. We mentioned her because she's not just some you know typical right-winger who wants deregulation and tax cuts. I mean that's bad enough but she is called school. Shootings false flag operations. Meant to take americans guns away. That's what alex jones by the way has been sued for okay. She's a female version of alex jones in the house of representatives. She's advocated for executing. Nancy pelosi for alleged treason treason for what treason. What are you talking the treason. That's been taking place. Is the nonstop messaging from the right wing. Meant to incite violence in an attempt. To overturn the results of our election that goes against our constitution. It goes against our country. It goes against everything we believe. She's also said. I the jewish laser beam thing a and she mentioned the rothschild again alex jones in a female body in the house of representatives. And when it comes to tucker carlson not exactly the most honest doctor because he has denied all sorts of things that are actually a pretty big problem in the country right now. Here's a compilation video showing you exactly what. I'm talking about white nationalism. What's be literal for minute. One is that exactly white supremacy. That's the problem this is a hoax dislike the russia hoax. It's a conspiracy. Theory used to divide the country. The probably about as many legitimate white nationalist in america as there are russian spies but the whole thing is why if you were to assemble a list a hierarchy of concerns of problems this country faces. Where would white supremacy be up there with russia. Probably you could live your entire life without running into a white list white supremacy. You know. I've lived here fifty years. I've never met anybody one percent who was scribes to white supremacy. I don't know a single person who thinks that's a good idea. I mean they're making this up. None of these dumb people pause even for a second to explain to you. What a white nationalist. You probably still don't know honestly neither do we. And that's because there are so very few of them in this country in the hands of democratic politicians climate changes like systemic racism in the sky. You can't see it but rest assured it's everywhere. It's deadly and like systemic racism. It is your fault. It's actually not a real problem in america to combine membership of every white supremacist organization in this country with able to fit inside of college football stadium. Well when you're a white supremacists maybe you have a difficult time identifying other. White supremacist tucker. Carlson is clearly someone who has carried water for white supremacist. The country and john real quick before you jump in. I just want to remind everyone of what. The trump administration began with in charlottesville. This video is graphic but remember in the lead up to what we're about to show you you have white men holding tiki torches chanting. Jews will not replace us and it all culminated with this counter. Protester had higher died that day after a white supremacist ran over her with his car. So white supremacy Continued to grow in the country after that and we saw quite a bit of it in the capital riots So to deny that. This is the thing i mean you had a guy wearing a pro auschwitz sweater at the riots. No i'm sure i'm sure white supremacy anti-semitism all of these awful things that really do exist in this country don't exist at all. According to tucker carlson. Who's a white. Supremacist this is the evolution of him. Denying that racism exists. Just a crazy thing to even say a conversation like this. But they will and they don't actually believe it obviously. They know that there are plenty of people who are animated by either personal bigotry and racial. Animus they understand the laws. They've they know this. They know this. He does not operate in good faith. That's it that's the answer. Virtually every question about tucker carlson. He is not a person that we have honest disagreements with. He's not a person who has just assembling the best evidence available and then making the case for policies that might be contrary to my goals. That's that's not what what is happening at. All we can maybe disagree about what the end goal of his political. Philosophy is kind of. I think you'd have to be kind of dense to disagree but you could do that in terms of whether he is an an honest person that we can engage with let alone actually work with no no. You would have to be so stupid or so dishonest to say that. That's the thing that should be done. He is a liar. He is a very very well paid liar. And that's the end of it. Well let's take a break and when we come back a little pillow talk for you guys. Stay tuned food Hey everyone welcome nor social break. Just jen writes in in our super chats and says he wrote on her website calling mccarthy q. Slash california In a statement instead of our slash california which is pretty hilarious. She's good at trolling which she wants to troll. I just would like her to do more. That bernie bro also writes in and says happy to be partying with ty t. Because we do know how to party. What was i saying before the show started john. Do you want to take a crack at it. But it's time to power to say. No no. oh you were staff when you call always on time and i always forget that lyric all right i love. I love bothering john with music and singing because i can't think of anything you dislike more. Well maybe crazy right wingers but miss blue from lower sue writes in and says when marjorie green was following. David hogg around. She said his shooters name and she said and said she had a concealed weapon permit. she tried to trigger his. Ptsd she sick. That's such a great point and you're absolutely right about that Steven tyler writes in and says guys one of the many things i love about. You is the balance on which you deliver reality however green actually believes. She's all in crazy. You're probably right. Yeah and look i. It gets positive reinforcement through the fundraising dollars. She's able to bring in through this kind of messaging Sage and candle writes in and says an-and john. Islam has three holy books old and new testament bible and koran it is an abraham religion nice mark ravin says are conservative slash republicans essentially the gop disappointed in their political party honestly. I don't i think that people like mcconnell are definitely worried and disappointed because mcconnell. He's like the old school kind of republican. We hate the new. Republicans are basically a mixture of old school republican ideology with like the most toxic awful conspiracy theories you can imagine mixed in there. So yeah. that's why mcconnell did call marjorie taylor green kinda referred to his cancer so it gives you a sense of where some people in the party stand are right one more comment from andrew conservative radio host mark levin this hour claim to know nothing about taylor green then attacked known anti-semites representative to leap and omar. I'm sure i'm sure he has no idea. No idea who marjorie taylor green. Is that guys pathetic. Anyway we gotta get back to the show. Let's do it welcome back to. Typ anna casper. In john rolla in the next hour we're bringing in nando villa but i do want also encourage you guys to check out john. Show the damage report on ti network. It airs monday through friday ten. Am pacific time one pm eastern. And it's quite a popular show especially for dragon aficionados so check it out the damage report. It's big in the scaling community. It is though. I mean like all the handles now that i read from our members section. Have something to do with dragons. It's kind of fun. But let's let's talk about linda a little more because there was an a fascinating moment on newsmax and it kinda of shows you that while we might be to. This country is very like focused on lawsuits and sometimes it could be a negative thing. Sometimes the positive thing. And we're about to see the positivity in just a second so newsmax recently invited the my pillow guy. Mike lindell to come on the show and unfortunately when you invite people like lindell on and you're worried about lawsuits you have a pretty toxic cocktail. Now keep in mind that dominion Which is the manufacturer. The company behind the voting machines that have been targeted by right-wingers with all sorts of smears falsehoods is suing. People like lindell along with right wing gossip organizations. I don't want to call them news organizations because they're not but they're being sued by dominion because of the lies they've been telling about how the machines are allegedly controlled by venezuelans and that's what led to widespread voter fraud just absolute lunacy but the lawsuit is apparently working when it comes to newsmax because get a load of how they reacted when lindell's started to go off on the voting machines happened with your twitter account and the company page. Well i mine was taken down because we have all the election problem. These new machines percents roof and then when they took it down a mighty cycle back up my personal. I put it was. I felt very much. Mike mike you're talking about machines That newsmax not being able to verify any of those kinds of allegations. We just want to let people know that there's nothing substantive we've seen a let me read you something. While there were some clear evidence of some cases about fraud and election. Irregularities the election results in every state were certified and newsmax accepts the results as legal and final. The courts have supported that view. So we wanted to talk to you. A basque canceling this culture if you will. We don't want to relitigate that. You're making mike because we we understand where you're so. Let me ask you this. Do you think that this should be temporary because it appears so you permanent argument that it is temporary right. I mean my heart goes out to dr oz who just want to talk about canceling culture but is unable to do so because mar mike lindell is saying things. Get them in more trouble with this lawsuit. You know. that's not actually doctor. Doctor is known. Media's weird place bark halpern's on one of those i don't know does anyone else get the feeling that like mike. Lindell originally developed looks house. I think that's the story here. And we're burying it and the story. Why aren't more people talking about this. Maybe that's what he was trying to bring up and they were talking over him. Maybe maybe maybe. I'm sorry you were making a serious point so go ahead. I guarantee you. I was not but anyway. That's just that's tv at all man. You can't have that the producer. Not talk to him or is it. It's it's that he's just crazy. You reduce talked to him for the purchase for newsmax. I don't even know what that looks like but anyway Yeah you can't really feel too bad for them for the fact that he went crazy because they didn't book kim like for his multiple books on the topic of election law. Whatever they they booked in a crazy and the audience likes the crazy people they bring on. They were just hoping he would be crazy about. Cancel culture that's it. They wanted to spin them up and then send him at cancel culture to rant like a crazy person. Well look even dr oz. D'appel ganger has some standards and He just had enough and finally took matters into his own hands. Let's see how that went down as the conversation continued. You make an argument that this could be a temporary banning rather than permanent wanted to be a permanent of. Because you know what they did this. Because i'm revealing all the evidence on friday of all the election that these machines so i'm sorry. Okay now i can. I ask our producers. Can we get out of here please. I don't wanna have to keep going over this newsmax verifying chinese those your mic. Hold on everybody. Hold on a second. Mike mike hold on one second. Let's talk a little bit about just what is happening overall in terms of censorship. Our my company in this country cancel culture. Oh my gosh. I also love the panicky moment where The control room is like. Let's go to white white. And then they didn't go to the wide of the female host and they went to the double shot. You see the empty chit was so good. It was so good. I love likes programming. I've never been in such a threatening environment where i have to try to dodge a bullet by jumping. But he tried to dodge a like a lawsuit bullet he was like. It's gonna take me like you'll know. Hated like push her out of frame. He basically hid behind. She's still on camera. You sue her. I wasn't involved in that phrase. Oh come on. Dr laws reason i mean they. They should know better. They should but like the. Here's the thing it. They brought lyndale on to talk about how he got suspended from twitter right. That's what the topic was so supposed to be about. But when you're bringing on a guy who rose to fame. I guess for lack of a better word through infamy through his lies about widespread voter fraud. You might wanna think about the risk. You're taking by inviting him back on. But this is the issue right because newsmax and and these four right places have built a business model. Amplifying people like lindell bright. They've gone way further than fox. News and right now fox news is having an identity crisis like oh what are we gonna do used to be the fringe lunatics now. We're not what are we going to do with their identity. And so newsmax has no choice like their business. Model depends on lindell lindell types and so after all. That went down john. All that went down they had to play nice. And here's without look like wow chinese state media to have an account. They have cancelled the my pillow count of our good friend. Mike lindell that happened just yesterday. In fact and mike. Thanks for coming on the show. Good to have you again. Obviously you're on the network earlier in the day. We made some waves there. We'll leave it at that but you a newsmax have always had a very good relationship but so we had to. We had to end that segment. Because you're gonna get us into a lot of trouble where we gonna get you. We love. you're gonna come back on right where you know you're going to do a segment right now right but we we need you. We need you. we need you. It's so sad. It's so sad. And and i think i maybe this is obvious. I don't know but but i but i want to express one thing about what you just saw there. Which is their whole thing is when those tech companies like twitter enforce. They're very clear public terms of service that these people are knowingly violating multiple times. They don't get to do that. They're saying there are things that people can say. That are so untrue that it's actually dangerous and they're wrong and then he starts saying about like stop. Stop orleans about that. Talk about how bad. Censorship isn't stop. Stop talking about that talk about censorship instead. Don't talk about that thing. I don't want you to express that thought instead talk about censorship and how censorship is bad. Because they're worried about the crazy tucson. It's things that he's going to say like and they will learn nothing from that experience. You get to have standards. That's how it actually works. Their media company gets standards social media sites. Get to have standards. That is how speech actually works absent government interference. If it's the government trying to censor people we can perhaps have a different conversation because that actually involves the bill of rights and all of that but they get control. Some extent with the my pillow guy says and sodas twitter. That's equality. john as always thank you so much for hosting with me today I'm glad that you get a little bit of a break. Because for our to nando villa will be joining us to help us unpack where we stand with the coronavirus relief package. Everyone please support john. Show subscribe to the damage report and also check out his tiktok account at the damage. Report jon thank you again. Have a great night. Thank you all right guys. We'll be back in just a few minutes.

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"What's up everyone welcomed typ and a cast burian and John Zarrella with you on this stupendous Wednesday is it really stupendous? I don't know I just said it. But this show we'll be stupendous I promise. We're going to cover a number of important topics. Yes we're GONNA talk a little more about the aftermath of last night's presidential debate but our wonderful team over at ty T. did put together an awesome rundown today that is diverse in its topics So we're going to do a little international news at the top Give you guys. Some historical context to the nagorno-karabakh conflict that's taking place right now between Armenia, Azerbaijan will do that the top later in the show will also discuss the state of the economy and what the likelihood is of all these layoffs turning into permanent job losses, and then what has the right wing response been to Chris Wallace's performance during the debate last night of course, we're going to get into that as well but before we do I wanted to. Read our notes to Dave. One of our viewers one of our committed viewers who were so grateful for something. Pretty terrible happen Tim recently. They had to say goodbye to. His dog cookie who had to be put down after a long battle with cancer. So I just wanted to give a shout out today I know how hard that must be and ty T. armies behind you much love. With, that said, let's move on to a story that. needs to be covered so Let's do it. There has been an escalation of violence and. Were closer and closer to a full blown war between Armenia Azerbaijan when it comes to the disputed territory of nagorno-karabakh. Now, that territory has been disputed for decades now and there has been sporadic instances of violence. There has been increased aggression from the Johnny Government in response to the large Armenian population that lives in that area, and before I go into the details of what is happening today, I do want to note that that land was part of ancient Armenia detained back to one hundred fifty B C. and was essentially taken away from Armenians and considered territory for other bed John. During Stalin's rule during the Russian revolution, where of course, it was considered Soviet territory but following the collapse of the Soviet Union. The territory was then transferred over to Oscar bed John, even though the area is basically governed, by Armenia, subsidized by the government of Armenia and in one thousand, nine, hundred, Eighty, eight there was an overwhelming vote where the overwhelming majority of individuals who participated in that vote wanted to succeed from Azerbaijan and join Armenia as part of its country now. Unfortunately there has been an escalation of violence. Both parties are closer to a full blown war after John decided to. Launch an attack against individuals living that area over the weekend. But to get into those details I, think it's really important to understand the history of the area, the history of Armenia, and as our John. So you can decide for yourself who's right and who's wrong in this instance. So the presents the present day conflict has its roots in the decisions made by Joseph Stalin when he was the acting commissar of analyses for the Soviet Union during the early nineteen twenties in April nineteen, twenty as our John was taken over by the Bolsheviks Armenian Georgia were taken over in nineteen twenty one to garner public support. The Bolsheviks promised caught up op to Armenia. At the same time in order to placate Turkey the Soviet Union agreed to A. Division under which caught above would be under the control of Azerbaijan with the Soviet Union firmly in control of the region, the conflict over the region die down for several decades. Then the fall of the Soviet Union happens and the conflict between Armenia Azerbaijan starts to flare up, and since then we've been seeing more and more of these sporadic instances of violence sporadic instances where it appears, they're going to move closer and closer to a full blown war. I will say in two thousand, sixteen things started to get pretty serious, and then luckily tensions were calm down a little bit through negotiations with Russia, playing a role in the negotiation process process but now the situation seems. To be getting worse dozens of Armenians have been killed in this conflict already, there have been some casualties on the a series side as well but I do also want to note that in nineteen eighteen following the Russian revolutions in February and October of that year the Muslim nationalists or. saw an opportunity to basically create an independent country for John. Azerbaijan. Was Not an independent country at that point in one, thousand, nine, hundred and. The way that they were able to take over Baku, which is now the current capital of bed John was through the help of Turkey. So Turkey certainly plays a role in this. This is something to be concerned about when you consider the Armenian genocide that took place with the hands of the Turkish government back in one thousand, nine, hundred fifteen. So right now, understandably Armenians living in the region are very much concerned about Turkey's current involvement in this conflict and the fact that they are supplying. The John Side with some pretty serious military weaponry and so. At that point in nineteen eighteen with the help of. Bawku was taken over by. The Individuals who wanted to create this independent Azerbaijan country right and at that time, it was actually dominated by Armenians by Jewish people by Russians. Those were the main people living in Baku and. Essentially influencing Baku at the time. All right now fast forward to what happened after the Sr. I'm sorry you are collapsed the conflict inevitably flared tensions between Russians and I'm sorry with Armenians and other Giannis and so Armenian started to petition to create this. You know they wanted to separate for Mazar Bayrak. They wanted to be a part of Armenia. There was vote overwhelmingly Armenians or people living in that region wanted to separate and be part of Armenia as opposed to other bitch on by May of one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, four, the Armenians were in control of fourteen percent of the territory of John At that stage for the first time during the conflict, the other Bejani government recognized Nagorno nagorno-karabakh as a third party in the war and started direct negotiations with a car bomb authorities. As a result, a ceasefire was reached on May Twelfth Nineteen Ninety four through Russian negotiations. One other thing I should note is back in one, thousand, nine, hundred, nine when. The other Bejani's with the help of Turkey decided to take over Baku thirty thousand Armenians were slaughtered in that process. Okay. So these these are all. Elements to the story that get completely ignored by Western commentators and I think it's important to put all of this in context at least in our show. So people understand what led up to the tensions that we're experiencing right now John I have so much more share and I know that I'm kind of going on and on. But this is a complex story and I want to make sure everyone knows all the details but I want you to jump in You know if you have any thoughts so far. As far as I know, you did a great job of catching up in terms of the historical context some of the really important context especially from the ninety s it's important in this case because I would wager to say that maybe one percent of America knows almost any of the facts that you just said and that ninety nine percent who doesn't also largely includes me I mean I learned a little bit about the region, some of its conflicts back you know what I was doing. Everything but I don't know how far back I would have to go into my time on the show to find another story that I feel less qualified to opine on in a of definitive fashion. You know I hope that somehow miraculously. The the conflict can be diffused without further loss of life which is escalating. In exactly the wrong direction very fast. But beyond that and hoping that somehow has many lives can be saved as possible I don't know really what I could add to it. Well so I'll give you more details on what's going on and John I don't blame you I mean this is a story that's been covered a little bit by independent media sources, and if you see any coverage of it with legacy media sources here in the United States you get a very superficial take on what's really happening there. So going back to the history and then I'll catch you guys up on what's happening today tensions heated up again in April of two thousand sixteen when John claimed to have killed and wounded more than one hundred Armenian soldiers. So there were surprise attacks by the is. Johnny Government Toward Armenians living in Nagorno-karabakh, and so I think that's relevant information considering what we're hearing from Azerbaijan today. So in the very beginning of the more recent conflict that broke out over the weekend, there was this narrative coming from. John that the aggressors here were really the Armenians I find that incredibly hard to believe especially considering the fact that right now John is dealing with an economic crisis fueled by the fact that oil prices have collapsed prior to oil prices collapsing and this was even before. The pandemic took place. They were all. Struggling because oil prices had already collapsed and they had signed onto all sorts of social programs, to keep people in the country. Happy. Now, there's this you know nationalistic effort to appease the people of our bed John by in there were in their words and their mind taking back the land that they believe belongs to them. So they've kind of shifted their. Focus away from the economy and more toward a nationalistic messaging and essentially taking back what they consider to be their land even though this was land that was occupied. By Armenians, dating back to one hundred, fifty, e c It was Armenian land until the Russian Revolution took place and stall in made decisions that essentially took this land away from Armenians and handed it over. To other bed John but I want to be clear that it's essentially autonomous zone in the areas not governed by author. John at all when the war broke out in one, thousand, nine, hundred, four Armenians essentially one with the help of Russia, backing them, and so that's why that area is governed and funded by Armenians, and so now we have the situation whereas our vaginas fighting to get that land and. A, lot of innocent people are likely to die if this. If these violent actions continue. So with the conflict today, the series are now a striking Armenians in the region to gain control I don't want you guys to only rely on what I'm saying there are historians who have studied this deeply and I want to go to this first video that features gene Baljouvan who was interviewed by the wonderful people over at the Michael Brown show cleese become patrons of the show. They did a good job with this interview and what you're about to hear is what the current situation looks like. Take a look what we've seen. In the last couple of days you know just a few days ago two days ago we've seen a sudden outbreak of violence. So looks what it looks like is that beyond? The answer is have. On. Striking. The? Armenians. There are some theorize Asians. The alley ever gene this family regime has been criticized for making a big song and dance of ten percent of that country being occupied but not doing anything the beginning nationalist criticism. So you know some people theorizing perhaps you know these attacks are to shore up domestic support but of course, this is like two Armenian mobilization and then. As a recount inaudible is Asian and we're seeing grind clashes and what is particularly You know particularly dangerous as well is that it's drawing in foreign actors in particular Turkey. Always, been involved in this conflict Russia's being involved Iran has been both the United States as being kind of involved as well and Turkish been involved trekkies sided with the series they shut the broader nearly ninety nineties to Armenia. Which ironically Islamic republic rather than supporting fellow Shiite Muslims in Azerbaijan has had a policy that has tilted slightly towards the Armenians for a number of reasons including the fact that. As Larry Nationalists lay claim to parts of Iran's territory, which is sort of a whole separate issue. So if you're paying close attention, I'm sure you can notice that there are some similarities between this conflict and what happened in Syria right you have all of these foreign actors playing a role. This could quickly turn into a proxy war with Russia involved Turkey involved Iran involved, and honestly when I when I take a really hard look at what's happening in terms of what type of Protection Armenia has I'm a little worried because traditionally speaking Russia has backed Armenia but Russia has been. Basically A little more friendly toward Turkey lately, and they're selling Russia selling weapons to both parties in this conflict right so they're selling weapons to Armenia at a discount Russia's also selling weapons to Azerbaijan. At a much higher price but they're still selling weapons to Azerbaijan that is concerning to say the least you have a donald trump who is clearly a very good. Ally to. President Air to one of Turkey and Turkey is very much playing a role in this aggression toward Armenians, living in Nagorno-karabakh he's released some statements of support toward bed John, and so as the Washington, Post reported, the new round of fighting that began over the weekend marks the bloodiest moment since the one thousand, nine, hundred, ninety s when the two fledgling former Soviet states ward over disputed regions until Russia brokered a deal a cease-fire in one, thousand, nine, hundred, four, many Armenians means linked Turkey support for as their John to the nine hundred fifteen genocide of ethnic Armenians in the Ottoman Empire one more video from. Jean Bosnian. Again, he's a historian and he talks about what the role of Turkey will look like and what that means in terms of weaponry take a look. We have this situation where Turkey which has been increasing over the last five years pursuing an extremely aggressive foreign policy. Without any check or on it a is now looks like it's intervening on the side of a for Azerbaijan. Sending Serei Syrian mercenaries, which they've deployed already, not only in Syria but. Maybe as well. Sending drones. One of the big stories of the last ten years being a drone industry in Turkey is become sort of modernized. You know when I used to live in Turkey. The, the touch were relying on Israeli dress heron drafts, and actually the tux bought the drawings but not the cameras and they had these crappy cameras that they started with the Israeli drones. So the cats are the drone take off properly, but now the tax got their own defense. So it looks like Texas, applying the with drones that supply accusations that Turkish fighter planes in bulk. So it very much looks like we're in a situation where you know like conflict is escalating and who knows where it's going to read because you know. Russia doesn't want to see this conflict. S Go. But you know sometimes things get out of. So. This is this is not a good situation John You. WanNa jump in. Yeah you know so. The thing that striding is considering I don't think other than maybe the conflict in Syria. You could come up with a situation where you have as many potential and current international players all of which I worry the second trump takes an interest in it let alone gets actively involved that the US military might get involve. He's saying that they're going to do what they can to stop the fighting or whatever you. You rightfully pointed out the history that he has with air to one but basically every other one of those parties, this is just another one of the conflicts that. I just like I get A. Feeling in my gut thinking about what effect the US could end up having on it when negative could end up having? Well the US is already had an impact because donald trump. The United States is part of what's known as. The Minsk Group, and this is a group of world leaders who are essentially helping to negotiate some sort of. Agreement between. Azerbaijan and Armenia now the United States historically speaking has been much more involved in trying to keep the peace in that region. But Donald Trump has been hands-off very hands off and so that has created an opening for Turkey. To essentially do what it wants to do, and so Turkey and author. John are both arguing that Oh the Minsk group is in. Know getting US anywhere and we were we're tired of it We, are John needs to take control of its own land even though I would argue that it really you know if you look at the history and what how how it ended up being considered Azerbaijan's land it's not really John's land it's stolen land. and. That's an issue right but anyway, trump is a very friendly with air to one. Remember a phone call with air to one I. Believe it was last year where We don't know how conversation went down but immediately afterwards, Donald Trump agreed to pull US troops out of northeastern Syria and that paves the way for air to want to send Turkish troops to the region to slaughter Kurds our allies, right. So I bring that historical context that recent historical context up because this is not looking good or minions trump who is I think overwhelmingly supported by Armenian voters in America has been. Disastrous for Armenian. So if you do happen to be in Armenian, who supports Donald Trump please take a look at his record with air to one. Please take a look at his financial interest Ivanka trump's financial interests in Azerbaijan that's also incredibly relevant to the story So it's not looking very good for Armenians living in that region and to be quite honest with you guys. I'm terrified about what's going to happen to Civilians living there who have been living there for a long time. And are now dealing with what appears to be a growing war in that area, and finally I do want to go to one other video this donald trump being asked specifically about the situation This is the kind of angry buffoon were dealing with. Be. Action. Dollars. John. On the cd-roms are killed. Officials from Vijay and they say the first came from. What. We're looking at it very strongly just happened and I know that it I learned about it today and yesterday. Then, we're looking at it very strongly. We have a lot of good relationships in that area. We'll see if we can stop. The good relationships that Donald Trump is referring to is the Turkish government make no mistake about it and the framing of that question also assumed that the first strike was done by the Armenians. There's absolutely no evidence to that and when you look at what happened in twenty sixteen with the Azerbaijan government launching a surprise attack against Armenians living in the region, you can understand why I don't believe that framing and I think that other. A struck I finally last part of the story what our NATO allies saying we'll Reuters is reporting that some of Turkey's NATO allies are increasingly alarmed by Ankara stance on nagorno-karabakh echoing remarks from air on foreign minister. The Foreign Minister of Turkey said on Wednesday. That Turkey would do what is necessary? When asked whether Onkar would offer military support if other be John requested it. John's President Ilham Aliyev. Later thanked Turkey for its support and said, his country did not need military assistance. I'm not buying not for a second. Would cease if Armenian forces immediately leave our lands he said but macron of France whose country is home to many. Armenians. were, of course, part of the Armenian genocide diaspora hit back during a visit to Latvia. He said France was extremely concerned by warlike messages from Turkey, which essentially remove any of John's inhibitions in reconquering nagorno-karabakh and that we don't we won't accept it. So He's essentially saying we're not going to accept this. I don't know what that means I. Don't know what kind of assistance France would. Provide but I do know that for any of you who is concerned as I am about you know the fate of Armenian civilians living in that region there is some action you can take there's a fundraising efforts. With Armenia Fund they're trying to centralize the donation. So it can with this effort as much as possible. You can donate if you're interested by going to Armenia Fund Dot Org. All. Right. So I know that was long guys. Thank you for giving me giving me an opportunity to share that story with you. We gotta take a quick break. 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We have a lot more serious news to get to but I thought I would break up the serious content with something fun that happened during the presidential debate last night and yes, something fun did happen it was a show affection on one side and a show of what you would expect on the other. So let's let's let's talk about. Following the first presidential debate last night the wives of the two candidates approached the stage to greet their husbands but there was a noticeable difference between the two couples. Let's watch. A dark event we have just witnessed. The tip of the hat to Cormac McCarthy. When we say if that wasn't a mess, it'll do till the mess gets here as difficult as that was to watch as the spouses now join both men on. As gracing as it is to realize, this behavior is taking place in pursuit of the job we used to refer to as leader of the free world. Grain commentary there. I know I know because there is nothing I probably I, God I'm looking over the break I can see the Voi- There's a great czar bent. All his office and Know it was thinking maybe I should have just use that video as Berol as opposed to using the sound on it. But now I'm kind of happy I use the sound yeah. The commentary was nonsense but the were trying to talk about is Imagine Hating your partners so much that you can't even fake it for the world, right? Like you can't even fake your admiration or your love for your partner just to like save face and to pretend like things are okay like Joe Biden and his wife are clearly in love like you can tell like their affection. Eh, they hugged each other immediately. Malania trump can't stand trump and I. don't blame her like I. Don't blame her I mean imagine being Alania trump. CITY UTAH. All right. There you go. Jake always interrupting me as I'm trying to share my thoughts. Thanks Jank. Ahead John. Yes I. Don't know if we can play that again because maybe maybe it's fine but he's like pulling on Milanez hand really oddly if we could play that same loop that was just playing not the jet commercial, we've heard enough from him be awful like you can see when it comes Outta here he's GonNa like Jerker hand a couple times. came. Thanks anyway. I saw. Okay. It's there. I'm not crazy just because. Serpent the serpent glimpsed me it was totally there. Anyway. Somebody on twitter referred to Malania having strong renegotiating your pre-nup vibes I think it was so. That's what it is which is fine. It doesn't really matter. Trump gets to brutalize the country regardless of whether he's in a loveless marriage and has probably never experienced. True. Love is in his entire life they're coming or going But it's funny. Little bit funny considering how is and how bad she is we can't forget that they're both really bad. Yeah. Yeah they are and I think maybe the hand jerky motion had more to do with the fact that every time trump has tried to publicly hold her hand she kind of like shoes them away. So maybe he was just trying to ensure that she didn't have the ability to do that, which is why you also have that weird swinging motion. Swinging motion that takes place like oh Disaster all right. Also one one comment from our live you're frankie. Who is upset that we had four minutes of ads and came back and did more ads I. Hear You. We're working on that So we'll we'll working on that. Thanks to Brett. So give him some love, but we're going to move onto economic update because that is a story that I think should not be ignored because a lot of Americans are struggling and they're not getting the help that they need from Congress. So. The economic freefall amid the pandemic is nowhere near over with major companies. Now, reporting tens of thousands of layoffs. Now, you're probably gonNA notice a giant surgeon layoffs because of the fact that P P P, which was the stimulus program specifically targeted towards small businesses is set to expire when it comes to some of its rules. One of the rules to get those loans forgiven was to ensure that these companies who take that money. Keep their workers on staff. They don't fire people they don't lay people off however that part of the law is set to expire today, and so in the coming weeks, we might hear about more and more Americans losing their jobs as a result. So let me give you specific examples of companies that have already announced some pretty massive layoffs. Disney. For instance said, it will lay off twenty eight thousand employees across its parks. Experiences and consumer products. Division's amid prolonged closures at its California base theme parks, as well as limited attendance according to a statement sixty, seven percent of the laid off workers were part time also materials science company Dowse said plans to. Its global workforce costs by approximately six percent but did not indicate the number of jobs that will be eliminated. Finally, there's Royal Dutch Shell Fossil Fuel Company said that it plans to cut between seven thousand, nine, thousand jobs by the end of twenty, twenty two, the company said that about fifteen hundred people have agreed to take voluntary cuts this year meanwhile, US refiner marathon petroleum reportedly began another round of job cuts. Were uncertain as to the number of the jobs in that case and barring additional federal aid US airlines are also on the verge of shedding more than thirty thousand jobs, and so this is a disaster We keep hearing these ridiculous news reports on CNBC and other mainstream media outlets arguing that the economy's doing. So well, it's recovering quicker than we expected. We still have an eight point, four percent unemployment rate, and that number could actually go up now that. You know the money from the cares act. and. The rules tied to that money from the cares act are expiring today meaning that these companies who took that money are free to lay off their workers beginning tomorrow without suffering any consequences. And at the same time, we also have one of the things that we've been sort of anticipating for some time is what seems to be the inevitable outcome of more and more people being laid off is more and more people eventually losing their homes Florida just today allowed the eviction moratorium to last laps so so far does say that more people haven't been being evicted, but it hasn't exploded as was predicted months ago but some states are still just on the cusp of eliminating those moratoriums and when you combine that with the sort of economic numbers that you're serious about it does being as soon economic one at least to know where that's going. Yeah, yeah it's. It's really frustrating to see this like utter breakdown of governance during a time of crisis, and it's a time of crisis for so many different issues when it comes to civil unrest when it comes to unemployment when it comes to the economic anguish that people are feeling right now, they can't really rely on our congressional lawmakers to do what they need to do i. Mean don't get me wrong. Republican lawmakers will get right back to work when it comes to confirming a Supreme Court nominee. But when it comes to ensuring that Americans are able to put a roof over their heads or put food on the table for their children They're nowhere to be found. We keep hearing about how they've restarted negotiations Nancy Pelosi, and Steve Mnuchin or talking again. And by the way Nancy most see it's been months it's been months and we keep hearing in all of these updates that Pelosi keeps agreeing to cutting the amount of money. The next stimulus bill would include would cost. But. We're not really seeing much movement when it comes to Republican lawmakers real quick I also wanted to give you some specific details in regard to the cares act and how that program really worked for these companies and why it is that they're now able to lay off. So many people the terms of the twenty, five billion dollars in federal payroll support that bars job cuts through September thirtieth expires Wednesday night that means tonight meaning furloughs could start Thursday airlines are clamoring for additional aid from lawmakers to preserve jobs through. March thirty. First. A proposal that has won bipartisan support in Congress from the trump administration but there isn't yet a deal on national corona virus relief package on a national coronavirus relief package that could include the assistance. So we're hearing that there are bipartisan efforts, but we're not really seeing the results of that and I also want to address a manufacturing jobs because one of the other narratives that I've heard over and over again in medias that manufacturing jobs are coming back at least the jobs that were lost pandemic, but as Richard Wolf points out. With evidence on twitter. Desperate cheerleaders for US capitalism keep saying the US manufacturing is growing in recovery and even booming the data prove. Declining capitalism pretends a lot. So if you look at the data here, it shows that there is a bumpy road when it comes to manufacturing you see a little bit of a rebound. Toward the end of this graph but. Then that rebound is followed by manufacturing jobs. Declining further manufacturing activity has been volatile amid pandemic linked factories shut down a recovery is underway, but seemingly slowing. So that's the point that the so-called quick recovery that we hear about from the trump administration has slowed continues to slow and that means more. Of. Anguish for many Americans. And remember that this is this is because the trump administration followed a strategy of. Okay. So sure we're going to do what's necessary necessarily to save lives, but we're just GONNA reopen the economy because the economy's been hurting too much and we said at the time what's going to happen the the virus isn't GonNa go away. People aren't going to stop dying. It's going to spike. How do you expect that people are actually in the long run going to? Be Able to go back to normal operations and you can't that is why we had the big second spike of cases in a number of states it's going up once again, seven hundred and thirty nine people reported dead in the last Cova Tracking Project report we just let this continue month after month after month at effectively the same level, and they really do think that if they just stick their head in the sand, everything will go back to normal. and. For the richest Americans I, guess in terms of their their stock portfolio, it's generally doing. Okay. But you can't make the virus go away just by ignoring it and you certainly can't make its effect on the economy go away. Yeah. Yeah you're exactly right. We could have had a much better outcome if. The trump administration took the pandemic, seriously encouraged people to wear masks and social distance but we didn't get that from trump said, we had this hasty reopening process which led to the spikes that you're referring to John and one other thing I want to note is that many of these job losses aren't temporary. They're not a temporary job losses they're likely to be permanent. So as noted. In marketwatch in April Twenty, twenty, seventy, nine percent of closed businesses said were closing temporarily while twenty one percent announced permanent closings. But over the months that followed the number of permanently closed businesses have steadily grown while the inverse has been happening for temporary closings. So by July we saw the number of permanently close businesses rise to more than fifty percent of the total number announced closings so. We're in such a terrible situation and the media's just lying to people about this economic recovery. They're just parodying the nonsense and talking points from the trump administration, and at the same time, we have a lack of leadership when it comes to the so-called opposition party So it is terrifying and this is really the reality of what we're dealing with we to take a quick break when we come back. While Americans are struggling and demanding economic relief. The Department of Health and Human Services wanted to spend three hundred million dollars on ads that would help donald trump with his reelection campaign and they would be using taxpayer money to do it. I'll give you the details on that failed project and more. Back to ty T., we have so much to get to. So I want to get started right away but I'm GonNa to read one Super Shack comment from Abi because it hits close to home he writes in and says my Turkish Great Grandfather Hid Armenians in his home from the military he was caught and face the death penalty. He said that if he had to die to do the right thing, so be it and luckily he was let go I'll be thank you for sharing that story because you know I had ancestors who were saved as a result of Turkish people. who were hiding them from you know the perpetrators of the Armenian genocide, and so I don't ever cosign into any type of generalization about Turkish people. I have a lot of love and respect for a lot of Turkish people who have been kind to me who have spoken out against the genocide All of my criticism and all of the. I guess vitriol that you might come across online is geared toward the Turkish government refuses to acknowledge the Armenian genocide. And also, the American government who also refuses to acknowledge the Armenian genocide. So even though every single presidential candidate in recent history has claimed that once they're elected, they will acknowledge the genocide even trump said that and of course, once they're elected, they do not do that. In fact, trump prevented Congress from passing a resolution that would essentially recognize the Armenian genocide in this country for the first time trump block that something to keep in mind. All right. Well, let's move onto some more news. Health and Human Services experiencing their three hundred million dollar tax payer funded KRONA VIRUS AD campaign fall apart celebrities and I'm talking about seamless celebrities back out of participating in the project. Now, part of the reason why they've decided to back out of the project is because it turns out the taxpayer money was being used toward an ad campaign that was really more about getting donald trump reelected. It was about spreading disinformation about how trump has really handled the coronavirus pandemic well, and we have a lot to look forward to, and so the project was meant to inspire hope in trump's handling of the pandemic. So again, you could probably guess. Why people pulled out so celebrities are refusing to participate and staff are a against it. Some complain of the unstated aim of helping trump's reelection others point to an ill prepared video team and a twenty two year old political appointee who has repeatedly asserted control despite having no public health expertise interviews with participants and others in the health and Human Services Department paint a picture of a chaotic effort scrambling to meet an unofficial election day deadline floundering in the wake of the medical leave of its architect Michael Caputo, and running up against increasing resistance among career staff John before it gets to the details I want to get your thoughts so far. Yeah I mean if. Like. You could at least pretend that it's not clearly just justice stunned for the election like you you. It's not even just one way that they're assuring us that that's clearly what it is. It's like every possible way you'd be like, no, this is totally just a you know a cynical ploy. I mean another way that you could inspire confidence in trump's handling of the pandemic is for trump to literally do anything to stop the virus from killing many people's Basel maybe once. One day out of the entire thing that would have been great to not even at this late date when we're past two, hundred, thousand dead still be saying I think masks are fine than I'll be doing that that would be one way to do it. You could save money too because you kind of have to do it anyway. So it's probably not that expensive in comparison. To the ad campaign what a what a farce and he has access to it this is like we said he was sort of a risk running for president from the outside, but we gave him the presidency, and now he gets to use all of the different elements in levers of government including our tax money to try to make it happen. Now, this may be a big failure, but there's lots of other things he can do to use the resources including our tax money the increase, the chance that he's going to win reelection. Yes yeah I mean look this. This story is the latest example of ongoing trends within the trump administration where the administration uses Donald Trump's position of power to funnel tax payer money toward his reelection effort i. mean that's essentially what's happening here. What was supposed to happen with this campaign? Again it's it's falling apart. And then on the other hand, you have the funneling of taxpayer money toward third parties who happened to be business partners of all of these goons including Michael Caputo we'll get to that in just a second. But remember Michael Caputo. Accused the government. Scientists of seeking to undermine trump's reelection campaign and warmed of an armed insurrection. He's currently on medical leave. He's. Not all there. I'll just put it that way now HSA Fischl. Yeah, yeah I mean usually is with these people. Now, when HHS officials spoke to politico said the following, this is a boondoggle were in the middle of a pandemic we could use that quarter of a billion dollars on buying personal protective equipment, not promoting PSA's as with seedless celebrities. Now, just three celebrities have recorded public service. Ads So far Dennis Quaid. And Hasidic singer Shulami Lever. With Quaid and other potential participants, reconsidering their involvement or dropping out altogether. Dr Ause was considering doing this until some of these details were disclosed and then he pulled out, and then of course, it looks like some of this money talks payer money is being funneled to Caputo's friends. So the video firm confirmed to I'm sorry the video from confirmed by HHS, to execute the campaign has struggled to meet deadlines, retain staff, and even find the contact information of celebrities to participate in the. Videos the firm D. D. and T. is led by a filmmaker who had no prior experience making us public health campaigns and is also the business partner of Caputo the trump loyalist who served as the health department spokesperson before taking leave this month and by the way D. D. and t is currently a subcontractor to atlas research a firm hired by HHS in August or fifteen million dollars to begin executing the ad campaign. I will say that when we were talking about the story before during the break and I thought it was Randy Quaid I thought it was a lot funnier I feel I guess a little bit bad for Dennis Quaid. He's like I was just seeing what he's been saying about this and the last day, and he's like saying it's canceled culture because people are mad at him and he didn't actually do it or whatever look if you're a celebrity. Like hypothetically, if you weren't that tapped into what's going on and the government wanted you to do a PSA about the pandemic I get that you might think that's a good cause to use your celebrity status for I get that but you also have to understand who it's for and what their approach to communicating with the American people has been about over the last few years. Yeah, and I'm also very curious whether the. Whether hhs was honest about the real intentions of this campaign, this ad campaign when they reached out to people I, mean they could have totally misrepresented what they're doing so. Look I don't I. Probably shouldn't admit this. I don't even know who Dennis Quaid is. So I don't really have a dog in this fight don't hate on me donate on me. So. I'm sure whatever I'm not really good at that that world. But Anyway, the point that I'm trying to make is. I, I don't think that was any ill intent on his part. So it is what it is like this is the trump administration lies about what their intentions are all the time. So just give him the benefit the doubt I guess now shortly after help transfer I was. I was trying to remember the iconic role he was in inner space. That's a classic. I. Don't worthwhile. So. So shortly after Caputo held transfer three, hundred, million dollars. By the way, this money is coming into the CDC took the money out of the CDC to fund this new nationwide campaign to defeat despair planning efforts ramped up early in the summer the health department awarded fifteen million dollars to Atlas Research on August twenty. Six. Two hundred fifty million dollars to the market research firm of fours. March marsh on September first fors marsh has said that it won the contract by stressing it's evidence based approach to communications, and that is it is cooperating with Democrats in probe. So Democrats are looking into this but I I really want to drive this point. Home. We still don't have another round of stimulus and you have republicans, nickel and diming the American people at a time when tens of millions of people are still unemployed more people are likely to be unemployed because layoffs are starting to increase. Now that the PP program under the cares act is expiring and companies are free to lay people off. This is a dire economic situation for so many people and to hear that three hundred million dollars was sucked out of the CDC. And funneled to this ridiculous stunt to help Donald Trump get reelected while also helping Michael Caputo's friends make a buck is just sickening. That's the kind of corruption and disgusting behavior dealing with with the trump administration. It's all about enriching themselves. It's all about ripping off the American people and leaving them to suffer on their own as we deal with this. Pandemic and this crisis. Yeah. All right. Go? Ahead. John. You. No I'm. Not. GonNa. Okay. That was it's okay. 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Photomicrography of Gems, with Nathan Renfro

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Photomicrography of Gems, with Nathan Renfro

"You're listening to the h photography. Podcast for over forty years. Being h has been the professional source for photography video audio and more for your favourite gear news and reviews visit us at h. dot com or download the beach up to your iphone or android device. Now here's your host. Alan white's greetings and welcome to the photography podcast. Today's episode is being. Recorded with audio. Technica microphones with tickled pink to be supported by audio technica and encourage our listeners to check out their mics headphones and other gear on the being h photo website. Now this macro week edina explorer and we on the podcast going deeper than macro today. We welcome nathan. Renfro nathan is a geologist. A gemologist and analytic microscopy pissed and manager at the gemmological institute of america. He's also a photographer. And when you combine all these passions that makes you a photo. Mike kroger for or is it a micro folk micro folks scott pissed. We're gonna figure that out soon Which enables you the ability to create unique and gorgeous images of the interiors of gems. We're going to speak with nathan about his work gear technique and his images which you could see on instagram at micro worlds of gems. Welcome to al podcast nathan. We've enjoyed your pictures immensely by the way really have great on let me. Let's start off your when you're looking at potential images within gems your field. You is kind of tiny fractions of a millimeter but when you are work in these spaces it must feel like a whole university yourself. It's kind of like peering through a telescope. In a sense. I would imagine where you're these amazing world out there. We just can't see them. You know you're you're exactly right really so you know. Every time i sit down at the microscope by feel like an explorer but maybe a little bit of a lazy explore so instead of you know strapping myself to a rocket going on venture to the moon or something like that. I can sit in my pajamas and and just look in my microscope. And take a little trip to this. Is mike rowe versus the most likely nobody's ever explored if they've never looked into this. The same jen. That i'm looking at so so yeah every gemstone i look at it. It's like a little adventure and You know you really don't know what kind of secrets are. Mysteries are strains observations. That you might uncover every time you look in gemstone. I ready you back when you have a very very interesting background that it seems like everything you've done so far has been to get you to where you are right now. It's kind of worked out that way. I mean my grandfather was a miner. He had this collection and up in he died in the rock coach labeled so i kinda got interested in in rocks and minerals from from that and then i went to University and i was trying to figure out what some of these rocks and minerals worse. Why would take them to the geology department. And the chair of the department. Doctor jimmy allen he he would sit down every week with me and go through a box of rocks to help me figure out what this stuff was but as a freshman. I really had no idea what i wanted to do and As far as university studies go. He said we'll why don't you just join the geology department. And really not having any better plan. At that time i thought well seems okay so that just sort of worked itself out in in that way and then i From there i was working at tourist. Jim mine in north carolina. And i came across a copy of lapidary journal which is a a magazine dedicated to you know stone. Cutting in gemstones and jewelry and things like that and there was advertisement in the back of that magazine for the Institute of america where you could go to school to learn to become a gemologist. And while i was working at that gym mine i i was learning teaching myself. How to cut gemstones and i had no idea that you could be gemologist. I didn't know that was even a career that people did so so advertisement really kind of piqued my interest and i kind of decided that after i finished my geology program i was going to go to california and go to school to become gemologist not wanting to leave california i How come i did. By the time. I finished the program. It was it was gonna i knew it was gonna be getting cold in north carolina enjoying joined the weather and so Need a reason to stick around. So i could dodge winner that year so i actually got a job at j as diamond grader. And that was what they were hiring for that time. So i worked his diamond grader for a little under a year. But but really. I knew my interest was in colored stones and the coastal department is is a bit more specializing a bit. Smaller departments so Opportunities to to work in color stones at g. I don't come up too often. I just had a a streak of good luck. I suppose in a position opened up. And i applied and i got the job and from there. You know it was another just another one of these sort of chance. Things the there's a a. Gi's he at the time he was as chief gemologist as names john zarrella and he's probably the the world's most renowned gemmological mike kroger in he's published Thousands and thousands of images whole series of books on inclusions in gyms and so so basically. I wound up working. You know just a few feet away from him and we hit it. Often he sorta. We became fast friends and he became my mentor. So i mean it's kinda like if If you're interested in basketball in michael jordan was your mentor. That was the position at. I found myself in as far as gemology goes so and then i had a lot of other. You know Really experience guys here From my my bosses right now. Who were Shame mcclure dino gano on these these giants gemology who who got forty years of experience so you get to learn in a really short amount of time so then it became a a lot of a lot of hours taking really bad photos in order to get my skills at the point where you know. I can start to produce indecent photos. Because i you know. I had no experience with photography. So not only did i have to learn on the lighting control for you know for the stones themselves but i really had to learn how to use a camera. You know i was really at that level. Hadn't used anything more than a point and shoot camera up into that point so sorry i to teach myself how camera works at the same time as teaching myself. How to out a light these gemstones to show the features. I wanted to in the best way and we still that film camera at that point still. You should at the time when i started at gi Film was pretty much. Dad is far as photo. Mike kroger iffy goes they had already switched over to digital but the digital the digital cameras at that time. Were not that great. You know we're talking about You know maybe five megapixel of seamus type cameras are actually no those were. Cd type cameras at that time. And so the resolution was it was okay enough to you. Know you know a a image you know small image in a publication or something but But i mean the performance of those cameras is nothing is as to what it is. You know currently almost fifteen years later. So can i kind of a basic question is is photo. Microphone just photo through a microscope. I mean does that generally. That's that's really. The short definition of it is taken photograph of something through the microscope. You know the the implication there is that you know. It's a photograph of something that is magnified larger than the scale. It is naturally so larger than one times. That size would would be sort how i would interpret. What is you know photo. Mike rogge raphy. What's the maximum magnification that you work at that stage you can get some usable. That's a good question. So when we think about magnification. There's there's a couple of ways we need to think about it. There's the magnification that. I'm observing the specimen in the microscope in the maximum magnification. There's going to be about a thousand power When you get beyond that that that really gets beyond what you can resolve with with light so then you need to start going to like an electron microscope beyond that So but then there's also the recorded magnification so the main vacation that is projected onto the camera where you actually recording the physical magnification factors using quite a bit less than the the observed bank vacation so it it does depend on. You know how your microscope set up in the combination of lenses between your subject the camera. You're listening to all of this and and reading about the technique and how you have to work this way. The word forensic keeps coming up. Is that something that you kinda have in your head when you're working on something because i know that you use a lot of these photos to identify what type of stone A lot of other things wolf things like fractures in and shapes. Give you clues as to what it is Other any forensic aspects of this. You've you've been called in for anything of that magnitude. Anti i won't say that i've been Called in for any anything specifically for forensic purpose you know we're looking in gemstones you're right we're we're making observations in the microscope and so gemology israeli observational science. It's A non-destructive technique would get because of the high value nature of the samples. It we observe. We can't destroy the sample. So it's a way we microscopy is way. We make observations and gather information about the stone without destroying it Now as far as forensics goes you know. I guess i could think about you know. We're often looking in the microscope for evidence of treatments and in ways that people might manipulate gemstones to improve the appearance and in that way if if a gemstone was treated in a way to improve the appearance and it was sold in. That treatment wasn't disclosed You know there are some of crime happening there and in that way it could be a bit like You know a forensic examination where we're looking for evidence of of something that was done to the stone where a customer client was misled Partiers mission is to ensure the public trust. So we're always looking for ways. That stone had been manipulated or treatment. There's all all the time they're their new treatments being developed to improve the appearance of these stones in an usually when a treatment i hits the market. It's you know. Unfortunately the reality is it's often not disclosed until we can identify what it is and so we're always on the lookout for that sort of thing so we actually would when. I really had in mind when i ask that question. A given once in a while you read about somebody They found this rock and they discovered it was actually came from mars. It was from an asteroid or something like that because there were certain. Trace research marks in certain identifiers when they examined this stone under high magnification that gave it the fingerprints or dna of stones. That we know came from mars. Just we'd gathered. So i guess i was kind of going in that that that direct. So yeah if we if we sorta remove the criminal aspect out of that to talk about though sure. We're looking in the microscope. Yeah for sure. There's there's clues about gemstones in a lot of cases that do give us information about you know where that stone came from for sure. We use the observation of microscopic features in inclusions to help determine geographic origin of gemstones. So in the gem trade The provenance of a stone is highly important. A lot of cases there certain historic localities sapphires from from kashmir in kashmir deposit in india or sapphires from burma and because of the historical implications there those stones command a premium in the in the marketplace. And so we're able to look at the inclusions and microscopic features of gemstones in a lot of cases. We're able to to make a determination where where in the were in the world. You know geographically a gemstone came from and sometimes it's just as important to say that disown didn't come from a certain place so even if i can't say for sure this stone came from burma. I might be able to tell you for sure. It did not come from burma which can often be just as helpful so in your work specifically and also in the field in general. How does the applications kind of breakdown scientifically in in this case named commercially. And obviously you're doing it in in some ways for artistic purposes but You know what is ninety percent of the the work when when done applied to so as far as photo mccarthy specifically or just microscopy related gyms. I was saying to jim's really so So the vast majority of microscopy in gemology is is one to identify. What is the gemstone. Certain gemstones are going to have inclusion sweets that are unique to assert gemstone so it helps you figure out one. What is the gemstone in to. It helps you figure out if gemstones treated But the driver is a commercial aspect of it really. Yeah absolutely for for my work. you know. it's it's it's the commercial side you know. We provide a service to the to the gym jury trade as a independent third party unbiased opinion of what is the material that you're selling in the reports that we provide khanin be used to either justify the price of the sale or it may completely destroy the price because items not been represented correctly and is the photography aspect of it crucial. Nowadays i mean especially within the digital world where you can get images to people quickly or is that just kind of the back end and then you can kind of produce reports with them so so. I think for that for the day to day. Production work that we do the photography's not so much Applicable on the individual scale. Where the photo. My car traffic comes in is Use my car to to do To document new findings or convey information about new treatments We it to document research stones and all of that kind of information from you know educating people and providing information about new materials and treatments You know that information is at the core extremely important for the overall market. You know everything that we do on the research side is is done in order to support the commercial trade side. So can we talk a little bit about lighting. Because you know. I mean we do want to get to the gear and the cameras us and you know but it seems that lighting is so fundamental obviously to this And maybe you could walk. Walk through some of the different types of lighting that That are utilized and specifically talk a little bit about bright field Dark field demane type of lighting. The people would probably think about four gemology is dark 'field lining and that's where you have inclusions stand out is bright features against a dark background So that type of lighting works really well for diamonds and diamond grading so you know these any any flaws or imperfections in the stone. Stand out in their easy to see However that's probably not always the best type of lighting for photo mccarthy So for most of my photos. I would say that. Probably ninety five percent of the photos that i take. I've probably applied fiber optic illumination And the reason is that you just have you know really almost absolute control over where the light go. So i can replicate a dark field environment or a bright field environment by using fiber optic eliminator and using it to control where the lights going to go and how it's going to interact with the gym so so. By far fiber optic elimination is the most useful type of lighting in gemology I also use things like polarizing filters you have gemstones that are by refrigerant which means they split light into to light paths. So you get this almost doubled image. Especially when you're at higher magnification that effect becomes more pronounced. So you have to use a linear polarizing filter to eliminate one of those doubled images so that you see a nice sharp image depth of field is something. That's a big issue. And you get into magnification. Sure no i just. I just finished a progress shooting a household spices at one to one with one hundred neither macro. And that can get pretty gnarly to you dealing with fog rita magnification and oh yeah sure. How do you feel i imagine focus stacking part of a so exactly so you know when i first started out focus stacking was a really a thing yet at least not a not that i was aware of And so in about two thousand eleven. That's when concept to focus stacking and application to gemology kind of came on my radar before that it was. Just you know the deputy depth the focus that you got an image that was just all you can do based on the limits of the optics of your microscope but with focus stacking. Yeah there's really no limit now so i have From microscope at work it does. It's a nikon microscope. And it has a program that will use nikon elements which nikon proprietary software and it has automated focus stacking function but But even with the older microscopes in the ones that i use it home. I can still take a series of know stacked images and i i use hillicon. Focus to to get more depth out of my photos. Are you manually focusing this. We're using some kind of as a mechanized drive. Because linda movements are my art are miniscule. Exactly so i. The short answer is both the microscope system that i have here. Gi it it has a stepper motor attached in it communicates to the software and the computer actually controls the focus stacking movements at irregular air volker. But a system. Like that's gonna cost you. You know on the order of fifty sixty thousand dollars budget. That's keeping so so you know that that's that's one way to that. Certain on the one extreme in the at home i have. Microscope was made in nineteen eighty four. So there's no there's no sort of focused control on that other than the knob did you rotate yourself really. And so what. I did is My brother who's a machinist I had him make me a little bracket to hold a digital indicator so that i could measure the the focus high or the movement of the the travel of the microscope. So i can see in real time as i'm focusing The actual physical dimension The microscope focus is moving. So if i have a good idea of the the total depth the that. I'm trying to travel through. Say it's one or two millimeters than i can take that that dimension is divided up into you know maybe twenty or thirty frames ncaa. I'm maybe i need to move the focus a tenth of a millimeter time. So i can see that using that digital indicator and are you looking at a monitor or are you. I mean the whole time. You're looking at a monitor correct when you're doing this focus are no so so. Yeah i'm looking at a monitor You know. I have a us a cannon camera in. It's tethered to a computer monitor for sure i'm also looking in the microscope i always Shoot with a triangular microscope. So that means you have three Optical parts one for the camera in to for your eyes so so you still you know is still easier for me to see things how they're set up in the microscope In control the light while looking in the microscope. And then before. I take the photo. It's the monitor's really used to confirm that. The camera is seeing the same thing that i saw in the in the in the microscope. In when you first pick up a stone or gem and you're looking at it with your naked eye how much of what you ultimately photograph. Can you get a sense will be there. I mean does that make sense at all but from your experience and from holding it up a natural light what gives you an indication and maybe walk us through that process. All the way to the microscope That's a good question and the short answer is the things that you can see with your naked eye. Come nowhere close to showing you. The what is truly possible to see in the microscope. I mean it. it's night and day. I mean with your naked. I really you can get a sense that there's something there but to to really appreciate the detail the complexity of the inclusion in the you you got to look in the microscope so so really. You know Every year there's a there's a gym show in tucson. It's one of the world's biggest. Jim shows is actually like forty. Jim shows that go on at the same time. And so when. I go to places like that. I'm i'm often looking with my naked eye or with a hand held loop and so the starting point is with the naked eye. And so i'm looking for you know. Stones are pieces rough. And the first thing i look for is. Is there a speck of something. That's in stone that maybe isn't supposed to be there so it's really just a is included or not included if there's inclusion there that's when i know k. I'll focus in on the inclusion with my loop and try to get an idea of if if that's stones gonna be interesting or not interesting are you. You're talking about from your artistic photographic sense. Now jimmy beautiful so so yeah it could be. I mean primarily when. I'm looking for stones for myself for the purpose of photo. Mike carter field. Yeah i'm looking for things that are either you know. Have vibrant colors are interesting. Geometric shapes or weird looking minerals are interesting landscape types of features. You know things like that You know sometimes you get inclusion in stone in. It might seem kinda boring or might be something that i've already seen or have a better example of right. Well i just to me. What blows me away. Is you know to hear you speak about. And then to see the images and again encourage our check checkout. Nathan's instagram page. But i just the difference between what i can imagine you can see. And then you see these insane geometrical shapes and colors how close to what you're seeing through. The microscope is the final product that you put out so the goal is always to make it as close to what i actually see as possible. So if if you see the photo micrographics that data should be you know a ninety ninety five percent representation of what you see in the gemstone. The the the trick israeli the lighting control. So just because you know. If if i look at a stone in a microscope and take a photo of what i see and then i had that same stone to somebody else who doesn't understand how the lighting works. They're probably not gonna always be able to see things that same way in so understanding the the lighting and how the lighting interacts with jim's really helps you to bring out or maximize the impact. That photo is there a standard color to start with a starting point. Like daylight with six thousand k. or uv or not. Really i mean. I think the i have at home. I have just these hundred. And fifty watt incandescent fiber optic lights at work. Have these nikon. Led d fiber optic lights endure said at color temperature. I think it's four thousand k. Okay so the color temperature really is not important. Because i really go back in i white balance everything in post anyway so the starting color is is really not overly critical so really. It's at the at the post. Production step is where. I'm trying to get the image back to where it looks like. It's supposed to end that. The colors representing the stone and not representing the light source but to what standard. Are you correcting to. Where's your eighteen percent grey neutral. What what are you basing. Usually the the starting point is. I'm looking for anything in the image. That should be neutral white or gray. Okay and so. That's that's the starting point. And so i'm trying to be aware of things that should be neutral color within the image and so that's my reference and my references also my memory. You know. it's probably not an exact science when we're working on the scale that i'm working at but a lot of times it's it's you know there's a little bit of my interpretation of how that scene is supposed to look from the way i experienced it while looking into okay. We're gonna take a short break when we come back more with nathan renfro and ultra close up photography of gem state tune this episode. Bean h photography podcast is. Produced using audio technica microphones check the link in our show notes for the audio technica product page on the h. website. Okay we are back before gearhead one question. What did ask you. There's a quote i saw when Looking at all of your sights and it goes photo micro graphs do not only serve. As an educational and research references many are aesthetically pleasing which get and can be viewed as examples of natural art. Which i get and haven't even been used as a marketing tool for gen materials. Can you elaborate. I'd like to know more about that. The photo michael graphs said. I've taken a lot of them have been used for promotional materials. Ajay subtle details like banners. And things like that where you need. A little design element or a splash of color. And so in that way it still related to to the product that we sell which is education about gemology. So it's used for for marketing in that way also had Jeweled jewelers and jewelry designers reach out to me about the producing images that they can use for marketing. Their their jewelry there was. There's a jewelry store in nebraska. Call the borsht in used to use formica graphs taken by a mentor. John kuwabara in their entryway they would kind of him out quarterly depending on the season. And so the you know maybe they have. They would have a inclusions that kind of made you think of snow covered mountains in the wintertime and they were kind to know. Try to have a thing to to to use as decoration. You've mentioned the word inclusions. A few times and for our listeners. Could you just give a quick definition of what that is sure. Yeah yeah. I guess that's a good good place We might should've clarified so So most of the things that. I'm taking photos of would be considered as an inclusion and what we inclusion in a gemstone is basically any optically observable irregularity. It's it's the things that people generally wooden want in their stone. You know when you think about You know diamonds which you know. Probably the wealth most well-known gemstone People tend to want flawless. Stones are stones with without imperfections. But for the gemologist is those imperfections in those inclusions. That's the things that are interesting to me because that's where all of the the All the beauty lies. i mean. That's where the picture is exactly. Yeah the interesting details are in those flaws and that's what's unique to each certain stone. You know you'll never find with the exact same inclusions in the exact same spot. And so so these inclusions they kind of act like a fingerprint for that specific gemstone. And that's what makes it unique. That really is just anything. You can see the microscope. It's very interesting but it's sort of like people shoot portrait's it's easy to take a stunning portrait of a person who's flawless. Okay you have to work at to take a bad picture however there's something intrinsically beautiful and fascinating about people who are llamas a quote unquote not perfect older people wrinkles scars and things of that sort and those are we really get the strong portrait. So would you really talking about. Is the same thing where these stones are again. That's where the that's personality and character characters for these towns so you mentioned a bit about Some of the cameras that you use at home and at work. Can you elaborate a bit on what. What are the standards now in the field and and how how murless might be changing that if at all sure so so as it pertains to photo microgravity that. The camera that i i've used for for the last i don't know probably ten years at home is a canon sixty which is a full frame sensor. It's got really good low light sensitivity in when we're working in the microscope There's a constant battle between You know the stone in getting enough light through all the optics of your microscope to your camera And so so. That's the camera that i've been using for quite a long time but at work i have a Some nikon the s ri Cameras that are there. They've basically taken the the full frame sensor from an nikon camera and and took all the moving components out of it and Kind of tailored for microscopy so it has good low light sensitivity and things like that These go with nikon microscopes. I'm assuming it's part where you get to other ones so you can adapt it to other systems but it it's it's meant to go on a nikon just by virtue of you know it's got a nikon i think is a f- Carry bayonets it's it's you know the nikon standard mount the you would see on a nikon. Dsl arts it's got the mounting hardware for nikon but you could apply to a different microscope. You put on olympics microscope with a nikon to olympics. Adapter if you if you wanted to. It's like maryland photography. Oh curia and and speaking again mirrorless is. I mean given the fact that there may be less vibration and other aspects of low light capture. Murless cameras are generally achieving a c. Colleagues using murless cameras. So i've seen a few colleagues using mirrorless cameras Personally i haven't used mirrorless cameras that much but obviously for a microscope. It's going to be the way to go Just by virtue of Eliminating shutter vibration. You know i've i've over the years. I've worked around you know That problem with my particular setup so it's not really been a problem for me but if i was going to buy a new camera i would. I'd pretty much get a mirrorless camera just to make sure. That problem didn't exist aside from vibrations. I i would say another advantage with cameras. Say the sony. A seven s the light gathering abilities. If these cameras seems to be a natural for this sort of absolutely. Yeah i you know in the you know. My cameras worked pretty well so again. I've not really been in the market for one. But i have tried to Look into it a little bit. And certainly the sony sony alpha series seems to be as strong contenders faris meeting to a microscope for the for one not having mirror and also the low light sensitivity for sure in attempting you. You're the camera that you have is. Sixty is kind of a in certain circles a relatively old camera. And i've i've read and seen where you've spoken. Often of the value of older microscopes is is the us market Something that people interested in. This should look into ill. That's actually a good question. And the short answer is yes absolutely. They should look in the us market. That's that's where Microscopes came from Really's actually my my main microscope. That i use it home. It's a z ten It was manufactured in. I think nineteen eighty four and i. I was actually given that That mexico was given to me by my mentor. john zarrella and he won that microscope In the nikon a small world photo mike graffiti competition which he won in nineteen eighty four and that was the prize in so then he used at microscope for thirty or so years in a sort of handed it down to me and now i'll another thirty years of use out of admit it's you know it's a research grade microscope but even still even though you know mind's gone a little bit of sentimental value on top of the practical aspects of using it You can still buy that exact model of microscope on ebay for pennies on the dollar. You know that microscope new would would probably earlier quivalent microscope. Like that today would probably cost you. Ten twenty thousand dollars in you can get online ebay. If you know what you're doing you can get comparable microscope for maybe a thousand dollars So you know the the trade off is that you wanna be careful about if the instrument was abused know is in good shape You might have tab a little knowledge of You know fixing a few things my other microscope that i use Which i use for the differential interference contrast work which we can talk about that if likely so is that microscope is a is a zeiss Zeiss universal in it. I purchased it on the used market in. It took me a couple of years to get all those components in pieces together To to make do what you know to get all the components for differential interference contrast microscopy but in the end i think i spent about fifteen or sixteen hundred dollars on that microscope and an an equivalent new system. That would do the same thing with probably cost about seventy five thousand dollars. So you know. It's out what i could afford but by by getting an older instrument and kind of refurbishing it i was able to get the same result but at a you know it really a very small fraction of the price so yeah. Let's talk about differential interference contrast because it seems to be at the heart of some of your most the dynamic images rent it really is so in the case for my images. It's a reflected light technique and you basically have light travel through a prism which is calling the marcy prison in it. Splits the light into into to sort of perpendicular light beams in in that light travels through the prism and then through the objective lens on the microscope and then to your sample which in the case of what i shoot for different. Sooner fans contrast is rough mineral crystals and one of my favorites is the diamond and the patterns that you see on these rough mineral crystals It's often kind of a low contrast subject You know it'd be all kinds of grey scale nude see some subtle texture in there but in order to bring out those patterns textures in this low contrast subject by using the the newmar skied hardware combined with the microscope. You have the light that travels through. The objective lens bounces off of the surface of the mineral travels back through the objective lens in back through the prison and so the light coming out of the prison in going. Back through the prism interferes with with each other and the interference colored. That's produced depends on the path. Link that the light travels so when you have this sort of the irregular topography. You can have to jason's areas sort of you know sort of side by side that a little bit different elevation and so you'll get these side by side areas with a completely different contrast in color and so it's a it's a false color technique but you're you're seeing that You know that's that's actually what you see in the microscope. It's it's a lighting control techniques to give you this extreme amount of contrast in what would otherwise be exceedingly low contrast subject. Well it's an and the results are just incredible it. I'm looking at one of those images now hard to believe that it's actual a natural element. Natural item can then control for example. The the light source to then change those color dynamics. So so that's a great question so yes you can You can control the the basically the color suite that you see by manipulating the position of the prism relative to the light path. And so so you you you're prison is kind of oriented At this forty five degree direction Relative to the polarization angle of the light in so you kind of sweep this prism kind of laterally and you go from low water interference too high order interference colors and so you can produce a high contrast grey scale image by putting the prison position at the low order Area within the newmar ski prism of but for me personally for my style shooting. I generally prefer the vibrant colors in. So i tend to put the prison in sorta this high order interference position You know i usually like a lotta blues and oranges and things like that. So i probably gravitate to those colors that you can absolutely control that color that you see by the position of the prison. You can see that you know you you watch that. Change in real time in your microscope. So when you get when you're rotating the well when my microscope has a rotational control which causes this lateral shift in the prison position but so when i'm adjusting this prison position i can just watch until i see the colors that the i think. Make the image. Look the best and then once i see what i liked the best that i stopped moving the prison. That's when i can take the photo indie fire with a remote control and how many images take so i. I use remote shooting software. You know terror to the computer to to to shoot the image. Or sometimes i'll use. My camera has a wifi function so I do like the controlling the camera from the app on my phone to in worst case if some if a piece of equipment is not working all set it on a ten second delay time or something so that it gives time for all the vibration to settle down. Sometimes i'll do a for those different joining france contrast shots. Sometimes i'll do a suite of images where i'll maybe take a gray scale photo and then i'll change the color and then take a blue photo and then a yellow photo and a pink photo and I've i've produced suites of images like that. Where you kind of. Have this. Sort of andy warhol vibe where you have the same inclusion scene shot with a series of different colors Or maybe. I'm just not sure which one i liked the best so go ahead and shoot multiple colors and then decide later in post which one i liked the best And then sometimes you know it's very obvious to me which one's the best may be that that is the only one of the i shoot and then then you also have the other layer of complexity of if if i don't have enough In the image. Than i might have to do some focus stacking in in that way you know then i may be shooting thirty images per each final image. Have you ever start photographing jim and never came up with a picture that you felt. Did it justice. Oh sure i i i would say is when i first started out You know you only see the good photos on instagram. And there's a lot of bad photos to the only wanted are so obviously you know that's you know to me. That's generally the best. I mean but i also think it's you know i also published what i would consider just sort of quick and dirty photos in there. That may be aren't the best. But i think are interesting. Tell an interesting story You know if. I'm not in the mood to shoes or spend a lot of time. Shooting a photo. You know some of those photos i might have worked on for five minutes in some. I might have worked on for a couple of hours You know so it just depends on on what the stone is. And and how how. What does it have to Is there something that the audience can gain from the photo. Even if it's not my best photo. That doesn't mean that. I wouldn't posted but but if i think it's a really just a garbage photo. Certainly i just don't even bother showing it or i don't even save it and then i just try again later how about you know day-to-day photography the shoot out in the real world. And and does that aspect effect. You compositions and the way you work in the microscope. That's that's a really good question. It does so as i mentioned you know. I didn't start out with a background in photography. So i really had to learn about photography and what i once. I bought my My cannon sixty camera. I got it with the lens bundle. Which was a came with a twenty four one zero five lands Which is pretty good. Just all all around general purpose a zoom lens in so i actually found that i actually liked photography and so i started doing some landscape photography and You know snatcher photography and Gi actually has an office in new york console. do some street photography and And so i think that forcing myself to to to do more. Traditional types of photography helped me learn. How how photographer would operate. I mean If it wasn't for that experience. I don't think i would have the foundation. Photography to know how to apply to photo micro griffey if that makes sense so so again a ton of experience from from traditional photography for sure and he's still shooting for sure. Absolutely yeah anytime. I go on vacation you know. I always bring my camera bag now. Which i used to not because i didn't have a professional grade camera and so yeah i shoot pictures of my kids in my pats and You know when. I go to interesting locations You know i just went to To big sur. Not that long ago. And i did some landscape photography up there just for fun and So yeah i still absolutely m a pretty avid hobbyists for over source at goes nathan. If i can answer question what is. What is a micro tier. Oh micro tier so and if you want to get you i go ahead. So determine micro tier kind of evolved at a gym show With a couple of my friends who are also photo. My krog offers Danny sanchez he's a really talented. For micro for based in Los angeles his instagram is at miniature alien. And so so so. He's one of the so-called micro tears and then the other micro tier is a gal in bangkok. Her name is billy hughes And you can see her work at lotus gemology and also if you search billy hughes b. i. L. e. h. u. g. h. e. s. So we're all three photo micro refers who specialize in photo microphone of jim materials and good friends so I think it was maybe heard dad that the coined the term micro tears at one of the tucson trade shows one year and So yeah that's sort of the origin of the term micro tears right. Okay so yeah. We sure to check out their instagram. For lots of other interesting. Jim related photo. Mike graphs will do. We'll do end. I guess at tucson is the place to be then for from jim rome whenever that a not not this year unfortunately but Generally speaking tucson in february is is just You know it's it's a really huge danny goes on for a few weeks and guinness like forty. Jim shows all concentrated in in the city limits of tucson and You know anything. Jim related is going to be going on in tucson for sure. He's been a terrific conversation. We all learn more than a few things here today. People are given first of all. Do you have any kind of exhibitions or any projects coming up that we should be aware of i. I'm i do have a few projects in the works. I'm working on a couple of book projects but you know. They're the completion date on on projects. Like that is always a question. Markets want have been working on for a couple of years accumulating images saul. I got no idea when. I'll finish that up but there are some some projects like that in the works and then Otherwise you know. I do have a my part of my Here jay i'm also. The section editor for the journal gyms in gemology for the micro world section and that's is a quarterly section. It comes out in the journal and it's it's really microscopy centered in. It's usually just little short notes on interesting observations in gyms and deals in so you can always check out. is journal gyms and gemology and see that that section to see interesting Notes about microscopic features in gyms. Okay you also have an ongoing instagram site right. Yup he. I tried to you know. Turn out as much content. There as i can. You know. sometimes it's a little bit slower. Sometimes there's quite a bit more But yeah i think there's you know. Probably over a thousand photo micro graphs posted on that on on instagram yet. To see to see might more of nathan's micro world of gems is the is tag on instagram. It's well worth investigating that and again. If you didn't catch it is in the show notes. Okay nathan. Thank you so much for joining us today. It was a pleasure talking with you and again our listeners. Wanna see more of your work All of the addresses are in our show notes. And don't miss it okay. All right thanks very much pleasure kim. Okay that's wrap of another episode. Thanks again to our friends at audio. Technica for the loan of microphones that we used on this show. They are wonderful. If you're not a subscriber to our podcast all you have to go to spotify or review. Snag your favorite podcasts. And type in the n. H. photography podcast entering boom. You are enrolled and if you already subscribe leaving nice comment boss reads this stuff to you can also find this on the beach. Explorer website and on the be nature photography podcast facebook group page unless told otherwise. My name is alan whites and on behalf of john harrison jason tables. Thank you so much for tuning into day.

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Giggity Economy

The Young Turks

1:03:06 hr | 5 months ago

Giggity Economy

"Think welcome friends. You're watching the young turks. I'm your host anna casts burian and for the first hour. I'll be your only host. And i'll be joined by john zarrella the host of the damage report here at ti network for the second hour where we will give you some good news on the vaccine and that whole debate that we've been talking about regarding whether or not the patent for the vaccine should be lifted. We have some positive updates on that. John and i will also talk about the latest decision by facebook in regard to whether or not donald trump should continue Being banned from that platform twitter has also weighed in on that. And we're going to switch things up a little bit. There's an interesting story regarding a mother daughter duo who are facing some pretty serious criminal charges after they rigged an election for homecoming queen. So it's a little different from what we typically talk about But i'm really looking forward to having that conversation because it does have to do with our justice system and whether or not the authorities should throw the book at her But in the first hour today lots of heavy news stories unfortunately tucker carlson returns to the program with his white supremacist denials. But before we get to all of that. I do want to encourage you guys to help to support the show. Would you can do it for free by liking and sharing the stream. If you're watching on youtube another way you can do. It is by becoming a member and you can do so on youtube. Are you to members. Get a choice between three different tiers. And at the four ninety nine level you can get access to the post game. You can watch videos on demand use custom. Oh jeez and you also get access to members only merchandise and discounts We're going to have a fantastic bonus episode for our members tonight after the main show so definitely check that out so just click join button and you'll see all of our offerings as jenkin. I like to say and as we always love to tell you. We love our members and we wouldn't be able to do this without them. So thank you for your support. We genuinely appreciate it all right. We'll moving onto our first story of the day tucker carlson. Who's just right on brand. Tucker carlson's brand is pretty clear to anyone. Who's paying close attention. He will deny white supremacy in the united states. That's really a huge part of his brand while also saying something that has a kernel of truth to it. Something that maybe appeals to Populist sensibilities in the united states and in this particular case he decided to deny white supremacy which is a trend with his show but also shockingly criticize us imperialism. Which is something that tucker. Carlson has been in favour of throughout his entire media career. Now let's listen to what he had to say in one of his latest segments. Does anyone in power really think something called white. Supremacy is the single greatest threat. America faces no of course not. No one thinks that susan rice knows it isn't true. So does barack obama so to all of the other architects of this particular lie. They made it up in the first place. So of course they know precisely how false it really is. They may be liars but they're not delusional in real life. The understand perfectly well would actually threatens. Could they've seen it up close. It's the culture that produced them. It's the decadent rich people from their class at harvard. It's gender studies department at cornell. It's the cat. Cafes in austin and asheville. It's the monday editorial meetings at the atlantic magazine. Were david fromm is treated like an important intellectual intellectual rather than some dopey middle aged canadian twitter celebrity whose life goal is to force america into yet another unwinnable pointless war. Those are the people who actually detest the country. They're the ones who are working through the night to destroy it. They're the people who are committed to and in the process of excusing violence. So if you wanted to save america these are the people. You'd be worried about the iranian nuclear program. Looks like nothing. Oh is is tucker. Carlson concerned about unwinnable pointless wars. Because i'm old enough to remember what his rhetoric was like back in two thousand and three when the bush administration was considering at that point they were considering a preemptive war in iraq. I didn't hear any protests coming from the likes of tucker carlson air to the swanson wealth and now all of a sudden he of course. He's very on brand when it comes to Denying the very real situation that we're dealing with in this country we have been dealing with for centuries regarding white supremacy on the other hand. He's now pretending like no. No no. i've always been against us imperialism But of course as we know what really gets tucker carlson so angry is the video that was just released by the cia. An attempt to recruit new people new agents to the agency and so he refers to the cia as the you know as some woke organization. He doesn't like the language that they use in their recent ad. We talked about this on the show and we explained The problems that we had with the framing that ad as well but of course it came from a true genuine anti us. Imperialist perspective tucker. Carlson doesn't fall under that category at all. He has been very much in favor of the united states invading countries for useless forever wars but before we get to the details of that. Because i wanna make my case and i want to provide evidence for that case. Let's first focus on what he has to say about white supremacy in the united states because he claims that it's non existent. He claims that it's completely made up by the democratic party. By the obama administration by intelligence officials during the obama administration completely made up completely made up as if we had had several mass shootings in this country that were specifically motivated by white supremacy. One of them was an el paso not too long ago when an individual walks into a walmart and opens fire killing dozens of people because he has a problem with immigration from latin american countries. He'll deny that that has anything to do with white supremacy. Christopher wray fbi director has said over and over again that one of the top threats domestically right now is the rise of right wing extremism. In fact you know it's one thing for me to just say it. I like to actually show the audience evidence of the case. That i'm trying to make. Let's take a look at this video. Police in texas are investigating a possible link between a twenty one year old white male suspected of killing at least twenty people inside and el paso and an anti immigrant manifesto shared online minutes before the shooting the four-page document posted to the message. Board eight chen calls the walmart attack. Quote a response to the hispanic invasion of texas. That possible motive may link the walmart massacre tweet series of attacks by suspected white nationalists in the last year targeting immigrants jews and muslims racially motivated violent extremism specifically of the sort that advocates for the superiority of the white race. is a persistent evolving threat. It's the biggest chunk of are racially motivated extremism cases for sure And an and racing the moseley. Von extremism is the biggest chunk of our domestic terrorism portfolio. Few well over all. I will also say that same group of people were talking about have been responsible for the most lethal attacks Over the last Say decade hughes will not replace. This was the canton charlottesville in august through two thousand seventeen and just the other day. The president essentially said that they were they were fair. We've seen a spike in anti-semitic acts in this country the anti defamation league the fbi have all shown that anti-semitism is on the rise in the united states. And i don't think we can say it's divorce from the political rhetoric that we see right now to deny that white supremacy exists in america is absolutely ridiculous and tucker. Carlson knows it. He's a white supremacist himself. But this is the type of red meat that he loves to throw out to his audience because it's his bread and butter really. What else would tucker carlson talk about. He pretends to want to hold corporations accountable for their unfair behaviour but does he actually proposed in increasing their taxes as he actually propose regulations. Now he doesn't do any of that. He offers all sorts of disgusting denials of white supremacy and then couples it with popular talking points regarding corporations and in this case Us imperialism which is something that americans are tired of across the board. You'll see republican. Voters fight back any notion of engaging militarily with iran for instance when the trump administration was considering military action against iran. His own supporters spoke out against that showing that republicans do not have an appetite in engaging militarily the way that we had during the bush years the way that we had during the obama years and by the way we continue to engage in militaristically across the globe certainly with our own involvement in yemen The fact that we're increasing hostilities. With china by arming japan and india. I mean the list goes on. And on i mean these actions are already Or have been taking place but make. No mistake tucker. Carlson has loved the forever wars. He has supported the forever. War is certainly has never spoken out against them until he realised. Oh maybe i can. We've this in my ridiculous populist rhetoric in an effort to really stand out an appeal to the very people who might want to vote for me when i run for president in twenty twenty four but do not be mistaken by who tucker carlson really is. Now he's also right. Though in calling out david from david fromm was the bush speechwriter. In fact back in two thousand two. When bush gave his speech on foreign policy. This is before the preemptive war in iraq you might have remembered the phrase axis of evil and that was a phrase coined by david from someone who was also very supportive of the war in iraq and the access of evil referred to the countries that were the biggest threat to united states. National security iraq iran north korea the warmongering rhetoric. Coming from the bush administration was significant. They needed to manufacture consent for the wars. That were still engaged in and so david fromm was part and parcel of that. He helped to crass the narrative he helped to convince americans that we absolutely needed to engage in that preemptive war that we absolutely needed to You know ward off this dangerous threat to us national security. And so tucker carlson's right about from but again. Let's not forget tucker. Carlson was and maybe this compilation will remind you of crap you played filled with a bunch of you know semi literate but i have zero sympathy for them or their culture a culture where people don't use toilet paper or forks. I you know. I agree with you. There their culture is but you're in their homeland and you're over there as an american who they hate and they want nothing more than the americans off their soil. So they're not gonna. I mean they can shut. The obey is my view. How did you salvage a rocket this point. I don't you know it's beyond our control. I mean if somehow the iraqis decided to like human beings or something he he need to say. Look i'm a bigger okay. I'm a big. I don't like islamic extremists. Like if you are really heavily into islam i really. I'm sorry i just don't care for you that much. And i don't care what that sounds like you can call me a racist can come up with you. Want for sucker carlson to try to re. I guess a launder his reputation as someone who was an opponent of these wars is ridiculous and he knows that video exists. He knows exactly how supportive he was. And of course. We're going to bring these videos up. We're gonna call about it. It is fascinating though that he failed to provide a single example of how he differs or deferred from david. From at the time. It's because those examples don't exist. He was in favor of the bush administration. He was in favor of these wars. And as you heard from the language compilation video. He's also very much in favor of white supremacy so while he denies it there are countless examples of him spouting white supremacists talking points on his show and on other people shows as he called in. Now let's get to david frum. Because he did not like the fact that he was mentioned in tucker carlson segment. And i want to be clear. There are no winners here tucker. Carlson clearly awful and aligarh. But david fromm not a good guy doesn't deserve cookies doesn't deserve credit and so he responded by this karlsson. Carlsson has some abusive personal comments about me. Two thirds of the way through this complicated excuse justification for the january six attack on the us capitol. Anti vacs pro insurrection. Quite a combo as to the abuse. I'll say this. I've known carlson for more than twenty years. We were colleagues at the weekly standard in the nineteen nineties. I appeared fairly often on his. Msnbc show in the two thousands. We were washington friends. We had lunch. He came to parties at my house. And by the way i totally believe him on that. But as we've learned with liz cheney in the house there's really no loyalty among republicans when people's political careers are on the line but from continues and says this all this was during the period of the afghan and iraq wars carlson now proclaims his fierce opposition to both but when it mattered when his already influential voice could have made a difference to the national decision. He was a ferocious of both wars. He's right so far so good. But here's where david frum loses me. And i think loses a lot of other people as backlash to this tweet would show you. I supported the wars. To of course but carlson's support was way more outspoken radical disdainful and frankly bloodthirsty his radio broadcast description of iraqis as Primitive monkeys resurfaced in two twenty eighteen. And then he goes on. But i want to focus on that tweet because when i say that there are no winners in this story i really mean it. What from is essentially saying is. I mean you know i. I supported the war. To of course. But i'm better because i did it politely. I'm better because i did it in this professional context of speechwriting where a helped the president of the united states craft this. Narrative meant to terrify americans and convince them in supporting these wars. That's david fromm did he gets credit. He gets no cookies. The polite rhetoric might use is no better than someone like tucker carlson supporting the war in the way that he did because the end result was the same. Whether you're polite or ferocious in your support for the war at the end of the day it was support for that also wore that we still find ourselves in today and david fromm isn't necessarily completely telling the truth in that tweet because i did manage to dig up some old interviews that he did This one from two thousand four where he was talking about iraq where he was talking about the notion of diplomacy. And here's what diplomacy meant to him. I think the united states is entitled and his right to be stern. I mean that like look. We're not we don't have one answer for every problem. There are a lot of problems with with the correct approach. The soft approach There are a lot of times you have to woo and placate. But just as it's wrong to say the answer is always force. It is wrong to say the answer is never force and sometimes Diplo sometimes force or the threat of it is necessary. Diplomacy in my view is not the art of smoothing relations. Diplomacy is the art of getting your way through words and sometimes sometimes the right words are please please please and sometimes right words are do it again. It will knock your teeth at his idea of. Diplomacy is using words. Like do it again or will knock your teeth out. Not my idea of diplomacy. Not not what most americans would think of when they considered diplomacy as a way of persuading other countries to work together with us. Collaboratively david frum certainly was not some dove when it came to us foreign policy. Neither was tucker carlson. This story was full of honestly a bunch of losers a bunch of liars and men who really deserve no cookies. We gotta take a break. We'll be right back. We know it's going to take many forms of energy to meet the world's needs while creating cleaner future for all at chevron where lowering the carbon emissions intensity of our operations investing in lower carbon technologies and exploring renewable fuels of the future. We work hard to care for the home. We love but it's only human to protect the one we share learn more at chevron dot com everyone welcome to our first social break of the show. I wanna start off by reading a few member comments. Beginning with little mac mckee. Who says i read a report where the fbi just came out that they underestimated white supremacists first and only after the oklahoma city bombing. Did they realize it was even a national organization. But now now white supremacists see themselves as modern successors to the organize violence in the south post civil war which caused reconstruction oops reconstruction to fail. I used to think tucker was winking nodding to these groups but now i'm wondering if he isn't actually one of the leading members and is officially part of the organization. Honestly there there are no dog whistles on tucker carlson show anymore. He's very clear in his white supremacist views. On one hand he denies them on the other hand. He's spouts the exact same talking points that you would hear from a white supremacist. Because he's a white supremacist. Moving on I just wanted to say thank you to l. m. g. fifteen. Who says does anna do a great job presenting the first hour on her own. Of course thank you. I really really appreciate it. We already have someone in our members section with the handle. No cookies for you. I love it. Great news today biden. Ooh oh you're stepping on my lines uber. I know you're not uber. But this is a story that we'll talk about in more detail later But great news today biden supports the world trade organization waiver for covid nineteen vaccines however. That's just the first step. I'm sure there will be push backs so we will discuss that on the show in the second hour specifically but it is great news and honestly for me. What's even better is the fact that biden clearly can be pushed in the right direction It certainly happened when it came to the cap on refugees. It happened in regard to the vaccine waiver. So that's good news. That means that if we fight hard enough there's enough backlash we could get him to take the right position on some of these issues So i didn't think that was possible before I also want to thank our new youtube members. Carolee swan berg and tom woodruff. Thank you so much for becoming members. I hope you guys enjoy our bonus episode tonight. Um and for anyone who's interested in becoming a member you can do it by clicking on that joined button and deciding which tier of membership you'd like to join in our super shots. We have new world global community. Who says please anna t. ty t cover what. The right is doing to the people of colombia. I will absolutely look into that and considerate for the show. Thank you for that tip. Graham henry says what the hell is wrong with a cat cafe. I mean honestly. I think cafes are great in fact i wish more cafes allowed animals including dogs like you have to lie about how you have a service and i don't do that. Actually lie about my dog being a service animal. But i wish my dog can go with me to certain places but yeah i agree with you. Anyway let's get back to the show. I'll see either Welcome back to ty t. and accoceberry in with you and let's get right to our next story Because this is exactly why tucker. Carlson decided to talk about. Us imperialism it's top iq and he realizes that maybe you can use populist rhetoric to garner some support a new global poll finds that most countries are worried about a threat to their democracy and that threat is the united states. This is an incredible survey. The findings come in a poll commissioned by the alliance of democracy's foundation among fifty thousand respondents in fifty three different countries and what they found by asking these respondents some questions about their fears and and how they feel about democracy in their own countries was at forty four percent of respondents in these fifty. Three countries surveyed are concerned that the united states threatens democracy in their country. Fear of chinese influence is by contrast thirty percent and fear of russian influence is actually the lowest at twenty eight percent so for everything that we hear about china and russia here in the united states when you look at the world stage and how other countries feel about us. They find the united states government to be a much bigger threat to their own democracy. And if you've been paying attention to our foreign policy and decades of us lead coups in various countries in the middle east and in latin america. You can understand why other findings from the survey indicate that since last year the perception of use influence as a threat to democracy around the world has increased significantly from a net opinion of plus six to a net opinion of plus fourteen. This increase is particularly high in germany. Plus twenty and china plus sixteen. Now i gotta say it is fascinating that the number is higher in germany versus because whether you're dealing with a democrat or republican in the us government right. Now you will certainly hear the war drums toward china right now. Of course it's more of a cold war than anything but it's something to be concerned about especially when you want to do something about the real threat not only to national security here. In the united states but to the world and that's climate change you need to be able to cooperate and collaborate with countries like china like russia but the us government's rhetoric even under the biden administration leaves much to be desired when it comes to diplomacy so i'm certainly concerned about that but even with all that rhetoric germany tends to be a little more concerned about the united states than china is but nonetheless. China's numbers are pretty high They are concerned about the united states. A meddling in their affairs. Let's be clear about something. Obviously china is not a democracy so china is probably worried about the united states. Meddling in their affairs But to claim that china is like some wonderful democracy that the united states might tarnish is is obviously not. We're trying to say here. Let's let's be real about that Now let's also move on and talk a little bit about what the respondents had to say about their biggest like non-governmental threat. And what this survey found was that the single biggest Cited threat to democracy is economic inequality sixty four percent of respondents felt that inequality was the biggest threat to democracy now. Forty eight percent of the power of or forty eight percent say that the power of big tech companies as opposed to the simple existence of social media is a threat to democracy in their country among democracies the us is actually the most concerned about big tech at sixty two percent. And i can understand why when you have this monopolistic system where there are only a few tech companies that reigns supreme and they crushed the competition. Yeah there are a little too powerful. There's no question about that. So if you're feeling concerned about that here in the united states just know that there are people all over the globe. Also concerned about it And right now anytime. We hear anything about antitrust lawsuits or antitrust actions against these big tech companies. It seems to be fueled by conservatives who don't want to be censored don't actually want to do anything about antitrust violations or in some cases there are prosecutors who are looking into it but so far. I haven't seen anything robust in terms of solutions to the very clear monopolistic power of these tech companies. Now china isn't You know as i mentioned. China isn't a democracy Russia has its authoritarian issue. So i just want to repeat that again because while there is legitimate criticism toward the united states and its meddling into other countries We need to be about where these countries that are. Critics of the united states are coming from as well The us might not be a threat to chinese democracy but the us certainly is a threat when it selling weapons to japan and india in an effort to intimidate. china that some of the Actions that started under the trump administration actually really started under the Tail end of the obama administration continued under the trump administration and will probably accelerate during binds administration as he continues to use the rhetoric that we heard during his address to a joint session of congress. china came up quite a bit. Now i do want to also mention that when this survey was done trump was still in office it was toward the tail end of his administration and so the attitudes that some of these respondents have towards the us government might be a little different today. donald trump of course attempted to stage coups venezuela failed miserably. He staged a successful coup in bolivia. That luckily didn't last long but with all these actions that were taking place. It's kind of understandable. Why anyone would have that kind of feeling toward the united states government but i also want to mention that this all coincides with an important report that came out on the intercept. It was written by ken. Clip and stein and ryan grim. And what they did was shed light on some new findings in regard to the us led coup in bolivia. And the what they did was they of course can clip in stein always manages to get his hands on leaks and emails and documents To do this kind of incredible reporting but what they found was that the department of justice under the trump administration threatened. Mit researchers with subpoena in collaboration with bolivian coup resume emails to the analyst. Show that the trump administration's complicity with a bolivian criminal investigation so As they write in the body of their piece e mails reveal that the justice department's involvement in the bolivian coup regimes. Criminal investigation into alleged. Voter fraud the inquiry targeted a pair of respected. Mit researchers about their work for the center for economic and policy research in which they broadly refuted suspicions that bolivia socialist party had rigged the election. Now remember prior to the coup. What everyone heard was that the holiest the organization of american states had found that evil morales had engaged in voter fraud in order to steal the election. Now the oh. A s is based in washington. Dc and it's also mostly funded by the united states government. Which is why. I say that it was a us-backed coup Sixty percent of the funding for the o. s. comes from the united states. Now there was no evidence provided by the o. a. s. in regard to alleged voter fraud in bolivia evil morales was forced out of the country. the opposition in the country took to the streets as soon as the has had a release these allegations and then you have an awful extreme right-winger come into office even though she hadn't been democratically elected But what kind of save the day for. Bolivia was the fact that these mit researchers were like Let's actually look into these allegations of voter fraud and see if we can confirm anything. Researchers mit commissioned by the center for economic and policy research took a closer look at the data and evidence behind the allegations and concluded what many other independent observers had already found the fraud. Claims were bogus and so after. That happened luckily there was enough pressure on this right wing. Coup government in bolivia led by janine on ios to hold new elections and they did hold new elections. The right-wing government is now out and luis. Arce is now the new leader of bolivia. He comes from the same party. That evil morales What is it An evil morales was Happily able to return back to the country now. The whole point of this report by the intercept is that doj officials under the trump administration tried to subpoena these mit researchers over the research that they had conducted because it undermined their coup. And this is the kind of game that you'll see people in positions of power play in order to maintain us agenda hedge enemy in the interests of businesses. That are based here in the united states. This is exactly how it goes down if you have the audacity to find evidence that counters the narrative that allows for a coup happen. Well then you need to be threatened. You need to be served some sort of subpoena. Luckily the doj dropped it but again it's important to know how these things happen behind the scenes and how censorship really does occur when power is challenged the way that these mit researchers challenged power in regard to this coup. So this is my long way of saying that. I certainly empathize with the survey respondents. Who are concerned about their own system of government their own democracy being harmed in some way by us intervention. We have a long history of doing it. There's no question about that even in recent history. We did it. We also attempted to do so in venezuela and luckily failed But if you look at examples like guatemala with the united fruit company if you look at examples like iran and how we overthrew its first democratically elected leader and decided to install a dictatorial religious Government instead again you can understand why survey respondents responded the way that they did now. Let's counter that negative story with a positive one because we do have a little bit of good news coming from the biden administration. That i think is important to share in rare good news today. We've learned that. The biden administration has cancelled a signature. Trump era rule that would have allowed for companies to reclassify workers as independent contractors. This is so important guys because if you take a look at what has happened in california after the passage of prop twenty two you can really understand. And grasp pow disastrous. This trump era rule would have been for workers across the country now the biden administration rescinded the pro business regulation without replacing it with a new interpretation of when workers can function as independent contractors. And when they must be classified as employees under federal law who are entitled to minimum wage and overtime pay. So the reason why. It's a problem to just allow for these businesses to reclassify workers. Willy nilly is because if they can reclassify you as an independent contractor. You don't get many of the on the job. Protections that typical employees get things like workers compensation things like in some cases healthcare right the benefits that workers typically get as part of the job independent contractors. Don't get those benefits now jessica. Luman who is with the department of labor for the biden administration said that misclassification of employees as independent contractors presents. One of the most serious problems facing workers today we are committed to continuing to combat misclassification. And we're particularly focused in sectors where we know. Workers are vulnerable and violations a rampant. She also says that. Trump's simplified test for determining employee status would have frankly resulted in more workers potentially being classified as independent contractors instead of employees. Which means that they would not have had the protections of the fair labor standards act. I can't underestimate. And i don't want you to underestimate how good this news is if you're a worker in this country and i'm sure most of you are. This is fantastic. News and i would encourage the biden administration and the labor department to go even further to offer more protections for workers including people who currently are classified as independent contractors now Let's also talk a little bit about what happened in california so you can understand why workers and other states have really dodged a bullet here so in california these app based employers. And i'm talking about instacart uber. Lift all of those types of companies fought aggressively to pass something known as prop twenty two and prop twenty two would allow for them to reclassify workers independent contractors. They spent quite a bit of money to to get this done and unfortunately that ballot initiative did pass and now workers in california are suffering the consequences of it. Let's take a look at this video. Because i think it gives you a good idea of just how disastrous and been in california gig economy companies have written a new law to suit themselves spending the most money ever on a california ballot proposition passing last week with fifty eight percent of the vote. Companies like uber lift and instacart spent more than two hundred million dollars to gather support for proposition. Twenty two which exempts them. Twenty nineteen law. That would have turned their drivers into employees. Some labor experts. Worry that this is the beginning of the end of worker protection route. Twenty two is probably the most dangerous labor law that has has been passed voted on in my lifetime. They've sort of taken desire. That companies have had for you know since capitalism began which is to keep labor costs as low as possible or drivers. Don't get paid time off sick days or unemployment insurance that could save these companies. Twenty percent on employee costs and as independent contractors. Legal challenges will be more difficult than they are for employees. Steve greg says he doesn't feel protected. Feel manipulated and exploited. I don't feel spoken for greg. Did sixteen thousand rise as a fulltime driver for uber and lift until the pandemic bar loved the work. Because i just fell in love. The human race. Doing this. And i stayed a driver despite for a while despite the decrease in pay he says the proposition twenty two impossible to earn a living driving full-time. They're trying to push it down into a minimum wage job. You get paid by tips. He's right about that. And unfortunately after prop twenty two past Many of the drivers who were promised all sorts of perks and benefits found themselves. Getting quite the opposite. So as i mentioned earlier you know being able to reclassify. Workers as independent contractors means that they don't get many of the protections that ordinary employees get. And let me also be clear about one thing. I mean ordinary employees in the united states. It's not like they're enjoying like a great work environment right now. Obviously we need to do more to Increase the the protections but also the power of workers in workplaces across the country. Now putting that aside for now Let's talk about the fact that they don't get workers compensation if they're reclassifies as independent contractors in the case of these rideshare apps remember. We're talking about employees who are using their own vehicles and they're paying for their own gas. They're not being reimbursed for their gas and that's another issue they were promised by these companies before prop twenty two. Pass that if it passes you know you could get this reimbursed brutal for you. And that's not what happened ben valdez. Who's a gig worker in california. Said of drivers were duped because they expected they were magically going to be able to qualify for benefits that the companies made it sound like they were going to pay for upfront and that drivers were going to be getting reimbursement for the mileage. They didn't in fact valdez. Also says. I've had maybe three or four nights where i literally made four dollars so some of you might wonder. How is that even possible. Well under this law looper gets to avoid paying their workers when they do not have someone in their vehicle so if they're on the road looking for someone to give a ride to. They're not getting paid for that time. They only get paid for the rides that they give also studied by labor economists at the university of california berkeley in october of two thousand nineteen found prop twenty two guarantees a minimum wage of just five dollars and sixty four cents. An hour as only engaged time is accounted for in the wage calculations and one other graphic. Because it's important for you guys to know all the details here shortly after prop twenty two past several gig apps announced fees for customers in california would increase to cover the cost of prop twenty two benefits after several of the apps claim. Prices would hike twenty two. Didn't pass so they're facing some real legal consequences for that lie Because i'm sure that that persuaded some consumers in california to vote in favor of prop twenty two thinking that they wanted to you know. Keep the costs of using these services low but at the end of the day these rideshare companies decided to hike the prices up anyway so when i say that the biden administration made the good move here i really do mean it. But i'm still uncomfortable with where we're at The labor department's decision here is important because they effectively prevented a trump era rule from taking effect. But it's not enough. We need to do more to ensure that what happened to workers in california doesn't happen to workers across the country when we come back from the break We'll talk a little bit about the dnc and how it's already preparing for the twenty two thousand four election. Are they making good decisions spoiler alert. No so i'll give you those details and more when we come back you guys are twitch channel is going to be so lit today like it's insane. No it's a double whammy. That's what you guys don't get so after the bonus episode tonight. Happy half hour. You can check that out on our twitch channel twitch dot tv slash. Ty t. that airs at five thirty pm. Pacific time eight thirty pm eastern brett. Erlich show and look when you guys don't understand is how naughty things get on that show like. I didn't even realize how naughty things got on that. She'll look i would watch here and there lately. I've been watching it religiously and it's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. They do things that we can't do on this show so check it out. Also on which channel. We have wachovia He aired one of his episodes just yesterday. But he's airing another episode today tonight at ten pm eastern time seven. Pm pacific again. You can check that out at twitch dot tv slash. T y t. I was unable to catch all of his Show from yesterday but he you know he had an interesting take that i don't think you here In most other places regarding just the economic concerns of Of black people in this country. And what he thinks needs to be done. In order to address those concerns so definitely check out his shows absolutely fascinating last night All right moving onto super chats and guys like come on. Let's let's keep on coming in. Because i wanna show jank that you guys like it. When i'm hosting solo that i bring in the bukavu bucks all right. So let's start with jeremy skibbe who says i'm loving the show more and more every day. It's great that you call up both parties and speak the hard truth. Mainstream media doesn't keep up the great work. You deserve daily charcuterie board and all the cookies. That sounds like the perfect dinner. A nice shark shark board beer. I've really been feeling Guinness extra stout lately. I think it might be my favorite right now. You like it to all right. Edwin likes to two sodas bar love it And i can eat cookies all day. peter hamby also writes in and says it's the consequences of having the first amendment shoved repeatedly at us saying that we can stand with or against different though. Similar people without consequence ever in mind At least in my opinion. Peter as you probably know this free speech warriors are also the most disingenuous people on the planet because on one hand. They'll argue that. They want to protect the first amendment. They wanna protect our freedom of expression and then they'll turn around and say some pretty things about Black lives matter protests. They'll be incredibly supportive of laws that encourage people to run protesters over. If they're blocking the streets. I mean every time i think of free speech warriors i think of dave rubin who i think is the most aggressive person to block others on twitter. So not really. A big proponent of free speech When it calls him out anyway we gotta get back to the show. I love your super chats. Keep writing and keep writing in. And i'll see you in a few minutes Welcome back to ty t. Anna burien with you is about to say anna. John john you've been in the room yet but john will be here for our to And everyone loves him. So you know it's going to be good anyway but for now you've got me and we're going to talk a little bit about the dnc strategy for twenty twenty four. The democratic national committee has already begun strategizing about the two thousand two thousand four presidential election. And you're seeing mike pence and Donald trump right next to me and this year old because they are part of the group of people who are currently being investigated for opposition research. This is par for the course. This is how politics works. Opposition research is a big part of how campaign strategize. But what concerns me is that it's not something that tends to work these days against the republican party. Now i'll make my case in a minute. But before i do let me give you. The details. Got to give you the facts. According to the hill the dnc is digging up dirt on several prominent and unconventional possible gop contenders ranging from the former president. Donald trump florida governor ron disentis and former united nations ambassador. Nikki haley to fox news host tucker carlson and mike lindell the founder of my pillow and a staunch trump ally. By the way. I like that. They decided to group tucker carlson and lindell to other right. It's like here the more serious candidates and then here the unconventional candidates also other. Gop figures such as senators. Ted cruz josh hawley. Rick scott former vice president mike pence and former secretary of state. Mike pompeo are also considered po- potential. Twenty twenty four contenders. I don't even think they need to bother with. Mike pompeo like it. I think it's impossible for mike. Pompeo win i mean he's a giant war hawk. He's got no charisma whatsoever. I just. I really find it hard to believe that. He's even a little bit of a threat. But i get it you want to do op research on all the possible contenders now. The effort started weeks. Just weeks after the inauguration and is being headed by nick bauer the group's research director bauer is being aided by caroline. Graham and austin deeter two of his deputies all right now you guys know the and now it gets to the point where i explain why this is probably not a good idea. It's not that it's a bad idea to do. Opposition research all parties do it. It's just part of the campaign strategizing. I get that the problem is what have these individuals said privately any worse than what they say and do publicly now in two thousand sixteen democratic focused solely on attacking donald trump over the awful things he had said and done and to be sure. There were many things i mean. He was a target rich environment talking about grabbing women by the genitals talked about you know how. Mexicans are allegedly rapists and murderers and drug dealers. I mean we heard all of the terrible things from the trump camp back in two thousand sixteen and hillary's campaign focused primarily on that messaging trump is bad. He's a bad boy. We're not bad when he goes low. Wego hi we're better than that and vote for us but there was a big messaging issue there because voters didn't care about the bad things that can't that trump campaigned on. They didn't care about the terrible things he had said he still one and then you look at his term and he continued to say terrible things. He continued to do awful things. I mean talked about good people. On both sides referring to the charlottesville hate marchers. who were chanting. Jews will not replace us he totally bungled the coronavirus pandemic the us response to it. At least and i think honestly that's where he suffered the most politically hadn't he handled the crow virus better. I think that joe biden would've had a much more difficult time winning but my point here is the negative attacks against the republican party. Haven't really seemed to work. I mean we just focused on donald trump. Fine let's put that aside for a minute. But jim jordan was approached by multiple wrestlers about sexual abuse and he told them to keep quiet. Allegedly we know about that. And jim jordan is still a gop lawmaker. What do these people do in private. That's worse than what they do in public and look. There might be things that they do privately. There are far worse but is it enough to persuade people to leave them and vote for the democratic party. That's that's i mean tucker carlson. That's the other person that they're digging up opera research on your to dig that much. I mean he's saying insane white nationalist crap on his show on a nightly basis. Now and so. What can the democratic party do. What is far smarter strategy. Do op research on joe manchin and kirstin cinema and members of your own party that refused to pass the very policies that would make democratic party wildly popular. Now on the right. We see what happens to someone like representative. Liz cheney who dare speak out against donald trump and the big lie which is that. The election was rigged and stolen from donald trump. liz cheney's facing a lot of political backlash from republicans as a result of that but on the democratic side. No one is ever willing to play hard ball when it comes to ensuring that popular policy actually passes. Now do i think the biden administration is gonna do op. Research joe mansion. No of course not or cure cinema or mark warner or any of these other corporate democrats who get pond off as as moderates when in reality they're conservatives who are paid to spout the ridiculous nonsense that they do while serving as obstacles to infrastructure policy that we need to Family leave policy that we need to redistributive policies. That american not only needs but honestly i think our national security at this point relies on it. I think the future of the country relies on it so if they actually were able to improve people's lives fundamentally materially. I think that that carries a lot more weight then. Complaining about how awful. The republican candidates are because they are awful. The thing is they're not hiding it. They're putting it on full display because their voters love it but what the republican candidates will not offer is a better life. They're not gonna offer solutions for healthcare. They're not gonna offer solutions to do away with corporate greed. I mean they'll pretend like they care about corporate greed. But they won't do anything about the question is while democrats propose wonderful legislation. I would like to go much further than it does. But still it's a start. Are they willing to fight for it. Accomplish it and improve the lives of the very people. They claim to be concerned about because if they do. I would argue that. They would be far more popular than they are today and the opera research wouldn't need to be a big part of their campaign. It wouldn't have to be the thing that they latch onto or rely on to to be popular to win these elections. They're just not willing to do it. So far. what we've seen from biden administration is a pretty decent list of executive orders. The corona virus relief package was okay. They certainly did cave to the demands of a conservative democrat. Like joe manchin cutting the weekly unemployment amount from four hundred dollars a week to three hundred dollars a week. They implemented more means testing mid-eighties to do any of that but still that relief. Bill did improve the financial situation that many americans were feeling anxiety about at that time but moving forward. We do need to do something about the infrastructure bill which is wildly popular. We do need to pass. Biden's american families act which is also tremendously popular across the board even with republican voters if they fight for it if they accomplish it again they don't have to rely on the oppo research because americans will feel that improvement in their lives and that speaks much louder than trump bad pence bag. Tucker carlson racist they know all that. Anyway we gotta take a break actually. No you know what i'm gonna keep going. I have four more minutes. This is great. I'm not used to being able to do five stories like this. But i want to give you an update on the liz. Cheney story because there's an update and I don't really feel bad for her. But i think it is a cautionary tale for anyone in the republican party. Who dare speak their mind or speak the truth. So house minority whip steve scalise. The second most powerful member of the gop in the house is now also backing the ouster of representative liz cheney due to her unwillingness to go along with a pro-trump narrative now this has been a developing story Comes after kevin mccarthy the senate. I'm sorry the house minority leader getting caught on a hot mike saying that he is frustrated with liz. Cheney and her unwillingness to basically stop criticizing donald trump. Stop telling americans the truth about what actually happened in the election which is the fact. That biden won it. But when you look at scoliosis. Lisa statement and what he suggests. You can already read the tea leaves. You know what's going to happen to cheney house. Republicans need to be solely focused on taking back the house in two thousand twenty and fighting against speaker pelosi and president biden's radical socialist agenda and elise. Stefanik is strongly committed to doing that. Which is why whip scalise has pledged to support her for conference chair so that was a statement from a spokesperson. A spokesperson for steve scalise. Essentially saying that he absolutely does back. liz cheney losing that leadership position and the name stefanik is now In the republicans consciousness. This is what they want. They want to replace her wits to find a coup. Actually is a little more moderate when you look at her voting record compared to liz. Cheney liz cheney has voted with trump often than stefanik has however. There's a big difference. Stefanik knows that she needs to present herself as a trump loyalist in her words in her actions. Maybe some votes. Not so much but it doesn't matter. She knows where the republican voters are and the vast majority of them still approve of donald trump. And if you wanna have a political career in the republican party you just gotta go along with it. You can't tell voters that truth. Like cheney did. That's political suicide and we're seeing that right now as we speak now Donald trump of course loves the idea of replacing cheney in this leadership role with a loyalist like stefanik. And so he's weighed in and he says that elise stefanik is a far superior choice and she has my complete and total in for. Gop conference chair elise is a tough and smart communicator. And what does define have to say about this. She didn't even do the fake like. Oh no i'm not. I'm not even thinking about this. No i'm i'm really focused on my constant now. She says it she loves it. She says this. Thank you president trump for your one hundred percent support for house. Gop con conference chair. We are united and focused on firing pelosi and winning and twenty twenty two. So it's worth discussing what this means for both the republican party and honestly the democratic party as well because while the democratic party was already a big tent with progressives and corporate democrats all included in one. Now we have this situation in which these trump era republicans people like liz. Cheney are looking for a place to call home and many of these never-trumpers even before the two thousand twenty election decided to make their way to the democratic party. And what we should be concerned about is how these people who tend to come along with money interests can push the democratic party further to the right which is the exact opposite of what we want so while you know. There are some positive reactions. People are amused by what's going on. They think it's funny. I get it and certainly. I don't feel bad for cheney at all but my point here is. I don't want liz. Cheney's brand of republicanism to further infiltrate the democratic party which has already become quite a bit of a problem in their lack of representation of working americans and their willingness to take on a more favorable view toward corporate america. So that's already been a trend. And i'm worried that it's going to continue to be exacerbated by what's happening in the gop and clearly what's happening in the gop. Is this pretty terrifying authoritarian culture. Where there's one true leader you're not allowed to ever tell the truth or speak out against someone in this position of power donald trump. If you do there will be brutal retaliation. You'll lose your leadership position. I mean for a party that consists of countless people who claim that they're disgusted by cancel. Culture get a lotta them if you tell your constituents the truth about what happened in the two thousand twenty election and you go against our dear leader. Donald trump will. They'll be a price to pay so liz. Cheney effectively getting cancelled by the republican party. They're going to have a vote on this next week. And it's pretty clear how it's all gonna turn out but this chaos in the gop does spill over in negative ways for the democratic party as well and that's something to keep an eye on. Let's take a break and when we come back our good friend. John zarrella will join us to have a discussion about the coronavirus vaccine and many other topics. One of my favorite stories of the day is meghan. Mccain's reaction to what's happening to liz. Cheney don't miss it. I'll see you in a few minutes.

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"Drop it. I won't we are church. Docker richie this panel is indisputable and afterwards the republicans will be doing a damage report. Okay keep going on all right anyway all right look big show for you guys. Republicans are not. You knew that but we give you details today. I including polling of they're unbelievable beliefs. Let alone the unbelievable things. Matt gaetz in marjorie taylor. Green said that we'll get to later in the program and then and then of course there's democrats lots and lots of news to get to do it. John zarrella take it away. Let's jump into it today as they are in washington. We're gonna be talking about political violence. What happened on january six. Then what the american people think about what they know about it. And some of the misconceptions that they continue to hold and mainly we have to talk about the results of this fascinating poll that was put out by yahoo and yougov asking the american people and breaking them down into different groups. Different facets of january six some of the common misconception. So hold onto your butts things are about to get a little bit wild. Let's bring up one of the infographics and we'll see what we can learn from this. Now i guess you know sort of mile high view. The purple is the one that you're going to want to focus on that's all. Us adults and then we can get down into the democrats versus republicans that we can fundamentally lose any remaining faith we have in humanity but overall The american people believe the majority slightly more than sixty percent that it was trump supporters who gathered at the us capitol. Because course that's what they were. They had the flags they went to the speech. They love the man. They did what he told them to do. All of their social media data backs it up but then once you look at the democrats and the republicans very big divergence close to ninety percent of democrats acknowledged that it was trump supporters who they're just slightly more than forty percent. Admit that at least some of them were trump supporters. And you can see the same sort of gap when it comes to the election being stolen obviously republicans believe that it was stolen. Who sort of led to it. Inspired in some part and the republicans don't want to acknowledge that they don't want to talk about the fact. That week's worth of propaganda from right wing media. Donald trump rudy giuliani. Jennifer is all of those other genetics. I should say all of those others might have inspired that so they weren't involved. It wasn't that bad but if it was bad it was probably tika as we'll get to so anyway look later on the show we're gonna get to actual effort to set up a january six commission but right off the bat you can see that it seems like the american people are in need of some accurate information because they've come to some fairly insane conclusions. Yeah this is not a thing. That's a dispute. I mean look most of the things that republicans believe are not in dispute but this one is brazen because they were literally waving trump flags as they were entering. And it's not like we all saw. Sometimes they'll get completely different news on fox news or newsmax or roy in and torius liars and they'll have conversations about whether hugo chavez years ago actually rigged the election and stuff and they'll have but you don't see hugo chavez and a lot of them don't know that hugo chavez is dead and totally irrelevant to our elections but we saw the flags we know. The trump gave a speech. We know that was the day the certification that the trump people were mad and the left wing was not mad and they were not there yet. It nothing matters including what you can see with the naked eye what you could right there and so it nonetheless. Three quarters of republicans i mean. Look here let's get specific about this right. We have in terms of yet. It's about three quarters. Three quarters of republicans. Saying i'm not full. Seventy three percent pin quote some or a great deal of responsibility on left wing protesters trying to make trump look bad. That's just nuts. That's just nuts. There is no other explanation and there is no all my opinion is and we can agree to disagree at this. Is it feels. Like ron burgundy. Here this is not an to disagree. This is your nuts and it's not even disputable if you will rashad taking away. I think i figured it out okay. So here's what's happening. If you will believe that. Jesus is a white dude from europe contrary to historical evidence or anything else you will probably believe anything and i think that taking advantage of these folks but there was a time man. We said things like the truth needs no defense. That's a damn lot. We are obviously living in an era where the truth needs to be defended more than anything else because of what's happening in the tribalism of politics you have clear and concise factual information. You have data. You have eyewitness testimony and you have video. You get no more clear than that. In this era however the vast majority of republicans and look at this disconnect the vast majority of republicans are still believing the lie. The lie. that's contrary to the truth. The lie that was placed by a strategic narrative. That said what is not and what is not is and because of that what republicans have figured out and trump figure this out a long time ago. He can literally say anything. And there's a section of the republican party that will believe him now. Remember guys. This was at around thirty. To thirty five percent now do have sixty to eighty percent of republicans believing the lie when the truth is in front of them can i. It's so frustrating. It's so frustrating. You're laid out perfectly. But the thing is really amazing. They say it was. It was all think about all of what you have to believe for any of that to make sense the different like twists and turns your brain s to make donald trump spent literally weeks going around the country telling people that the election have been stolen and that the a day when finally that theft could be avenged and he told all of them weeks and weeks stop. The steel people told them weeks and weeks or did giuliani was going around lynnwood. All going around everybody go to go to. Dc go to go to dc. So they did all that nobody showed up. No republicans no trump supporters. They just abandoned him leaving room for all left-wingers to come in and a left-wingers when to a trump's speech and they cheered all the lines that he loved the reaction he was getting or in theory some republicans showed up but then when trump said okay now go to the capital. They all just again abandoned him and walked away to be replaced by left-wing protesters and then lifting protesters who had bought the maga hats and the flags. And all of that. Who would Go who'd spent months prepping for this filling their social media feed with stuff about how much they loved trump and how republicans are great and everything then are so invested in this that they're willing to get arrested by the hundreds that are now paying the price at and that is the cost they had to pay to make trump pain but despite that for some reason the capitol police and the democrats who are trying to get as many of them arrested as possible are not doing a good thing. Even though they're arresting left wing and t for provocateur so. I don't know how that makes sense. But that's what they say and i think that's really how we have to put it. I still have some faith impulse. I think the polls can teach us things but not necessarily the things that they imply. I don't think three fourths of republicans believed that it was left wing provocateurs or whatever. I think that they will say that to pollsters. They have no respect for pollsters science facts. Whatever they don't answer things as a reflection of what they really believe. They answer it like they want. But that doesn't mean that it doesn't matter that they answer that because i don't believe that they actually think it was left-wingers but i do think that they don't care that it happened. They're not worried about it. They're not scared at all. And the difference between what they seem to be saying. And what they actually. I think matters because if we believe that they're just wrong. We might put time into trying to change their minds but their minds don't need to be changed nor can they be changed. They know what they want and what they want is permanent. Republican rule with trump as figurehead. And to some extent. While i care about the truth and i like doing fact checking wasting our time trying to change the minds of people who are fundamentally lying about literally everything is like joe manchin strategy of finding ten good republicans out there. I and they're kind of working in the same direction. We don't need them nor can we get them in the same way. That joe manchin doesn't really care about isn't going to get republican senators on his side. What we need to do hopefully is get democrats to set. All that aside realized that they were voted into office to accomplish things and make it happen whether that's a january six commission the for the people acted infrastructure bill. Whatever it's the same issue it's just obstruction. It just comes in multiple forms so john dewes parts. I agree with parts. I disagree with actually in what you said. I agree with you. They're not scared of these people at all because when they see those people they see them right they they think well that go. Those guys wouldn't harm me. They are me right. They saw black lives matter. Protesters storming the campbell. It would scare the living bejesus out of them. If they were really antifa. They'd be like. Oh my god the by three locks for shotguns etc. They're coming to my house. I'm not going to let them but they're not doing any of that. So at the same time. And i know that these are two thoughts. You cannot have at the same time but i think the republican mind is broken and so i think it's possible to have two thoughts that are completely contradictory in their mind at the same time which is no. I'm not scared of these people. They look like me. they are me. They wouldn't hurt me at all. We would hurt people together but at the same time. I think they really believe no. We are above fault. We are beyond reproach. We've we would never do anything wrong. The only people bring the law black people and left wingers by definition by so it must have been left. I think that's consistent with them. Not thinking that what was done was wrong. Notice was wrong at all and in fact now we share the polls incredibly staple from yesterday saying that over forty percent of people who consume far right media but by the way to that's not fox news newsmax etc etc but but for fox's twenty-seven percent these are giant numbers saying that it's time to resort to violence. The right wingers saying time to resort to violence. Now matt gaetz meal talked about resorting. To violence they're talking about second amendment against the government et cetera. No it's over. They think they've lost for good in a democracy and they are now literally rising up against our democracy and try to install authoritarianism and treating them like the old ways where we think. Oh he said she said. I can't oh let's me eat. No-no guys are democracies in mortal danger especially democrats being this incompetent in charge because those guys all those republicans. They're gonna show up to vote again. No question about it. The only question is are democrats and independents gonna show up and if we do nothing. We endanger the republic rashad. Yeah so what you're describing is actually indoctrination. And indoctrination is when you're unable to critically think about what you believe as so indoctrination exhibits itself in contradiction. Best how it expresses itself so you could literally have variations of thought. That are at face value contradictory. But because you are indoctrinated and unable to critically think about what actually believe all of these thoughts can coexist at the same time and you have now devolved into a reactionary individual based stimuli of your atmosphere regardless of truth. You're not seeking truth. You don't care about truth you have. Now you have not been desensitize for truth. And i think that's what you're saying. We saw it systematically happened donald trump. Let's be very clear about who. Donald trump is a whole history. Gets this right. Donald trump radicalized american citizens to become domestic terrorist. That's what actually happened now. We can keep calling them protesters. It doesn't fit. They acted and engaged in acts of terrorism because terrorism is defined as criminality aggression and all of those elements to persuade influence politics. That's exactly what happened. Well who radicalized this group. Donald trump did and i know we look at the speech and we say man he gave his speech and that speech is what became the catalyst for them to do what they did on january six. No he gave speeches for five damn years. This man has been giving speeches for years before president and while being president and then he indoctrinated this group radicalized this group and created american terrorist out of this group and they did exactly what he told them to do. Those are the backs of what happened. With donald j trump we literally had an american president who became a terrorist leader in the united states of america. And look when you look at the polling giant chunk of republican voters saying it's time for violence and that's that's exactly what we're talking about it. It's yeah up by the way never will not go down. That number will go up. Yes and guys. If you say well okay but seventy three percent on fox news voters don't yet want do violence good good but are you comforted by twenty seven percent. Are you comforted forty percents if it was forty one forty eight but over forty percent of people who watch newsmax so endless. The breitbart has said those guys. They're nearly half saying let's go. Let's go to start committing violence against the left against the government. Matt gaetz talked about. No no no. Let's you should use the second amendment now against the government. it's not about hunting. It's not about sports. He just said it no. They're all going to violent director against twitter. Whatever it takes the majority the majority is never the prerequisite when you look uprisings. That have happened in this nation and also against. Let's say the native americans let's say against black slaves i. It was a minority of the population. Who engaged in violent criminality. The real question is the real question is how many of their seventy plus percent a willing to sit back and say absolutely nothing because that's how the violence prevails if you have people who are not engaged in the violence willing to allow the violence continue. Yeah and last thing is rashad again. Put us so well when he said they were desensitized. So the truth because now we've seen a thousand of these polls but but here's another one i'm only eighteen. Percent of republicans is not people watch. Xyz all republicans eighteen percent say the biden won the election fair and square two thirds sixty four percent believe the election was rigged and stolen from trump sixty four percent and even more seventy two percent. Say they had that enough. Fraud occurred in twenty twenty to influence the outcome of the election. Okay but let's take the sixty four percent who republicans say literally literally stolen from now. Donald trump's the actual president and joe biden and god knows who else hugo chavez etc rigged. The machines and. He's not actually the president that is super dangerous. Because i know how livid i would be if i was positive that they had stolen the election. If trump stole the election and basically authoritarian and said. I don't care who like on january six. Let's say they took the cap whatever however they did it. If i thought it was stolen. Well then i would be crazy to be on furious and they got them to actually believe that that that it the election wasn't real so no wonder they're saying well what we do next. We couldn't win through politics so the only thing left is violence and that's we are as a country now thanks to the grotesque lies of donald trump and the week per static republican politicians who cater to them who became dogs to him and and finally it is a full circle. I want to explain. this is important. Donald trump is a conman. He would not have said those things to republican voters. If he didn't think they would be well received he would've said different things because he's looking to con them so that they give him power and money and he he got sense and this is the only thing he's good at. He got a sense. That i can come these people if i give them what what they want and what they want is to rule over everyone else. That does not look like them. They really really wanted. That's what they've always wanted. And they do not want to lose that power under any circumstance. Democracy in america be damned unfortunately. That's the current state of the republican party right now and whether it's mainstream media or whoever else they need to wake up and see it. I mean the people that need to see the most mansions cinnamon biden well. You're not going to work with people who are now beginning to think about your violent overthrow. When is it gonna gate through your thick skull that this is not the republican party you grew up with in eighteen sixty eight or whatever. Actually that would be a very different republican mitch mcconnell but yeah yeah no this is not bob dole. Okay this is. This is not a georgia romney. There there are no rockefeller republicans left so both the democratic leadership and the media have to wake up. This is a super dangerous situation. And the only last point that i wanna make is in to piggyback on. What rashaad said those those other movements and other countries that we might have seen that have been able to overthrow governments or whatever you think of them as fringe things communicating through underground radio and pamphlets or social media. More recently But this one has the biggest media apparatus in the country like the single biggest cable. New show is a constant for their acts of terrorism and he would be if they had succeeded. If they had killed mike pence he would still done sympathetic. Monologue about them when they try again. The future tucker. Carlson will defend them. They are not going to be just sort of hoping to get through. As mainstream media crushes whatever they have the mainstream media on their side as they move in this anti-democratic and violent direction. In any event. I break when we come back. Let's see what the senate is going to do about it. After this we need to talk about relatively new show called the republic or uft are as young turks van. You already know that. The government the media and corporations are constantly peddling lies that serve the interests of the rich and powerful. But now there's a podcast dedicated to unraveling those lies. Debunking the conventional wisdom in each episode of the republic or un fdr. The host delves into a different historical episode topic. 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I accept indoctrination. Best only way it can exist was the second part of that question. Jank and does spreading speed effect. The impact of their cultures does spreading speed like like the fastest. I absolutely yeah and remember you had basically five years of the spread with donald trump. So that definitely had an impact and the impact is based on repetition. And i know this. Because i started it based on Ganged e- program it. The same methodology for gang programming and gang deprogramming is indoctrination. And like. that's amazing actually. That's a really interesting analogy Peter great questions just to be clear. It's dr rashad richie You said dr rashad designed to ritchie. So it's okay. God bless thank you for the question and british. Thirty two says hi. Trt another combo for for show looks like bipartisanship is going like biden mansion. Wants it with this commission. Vote by the way. Can we turn johnson. Think named from dragon daddy to double d like people recommended tr. I got nothing to do with that or nothing to do with that. I don't want any part of double d or anything like that. That's up to you guys. His nickname you one. I've already given them my twenty-eight nicknames. I'm done with that. I look back on those fondly now. rose jackson and sanjiv boy dead just joined by hitting the button below on youtube. Excellent bonus episode for you guys soon kofi nineteen Said it our member station. If republicans actually believed that believes it was antifa behind the capital rights. They would benghazi the hell out of it in investigation after investigation. That's pointed appoint. We're about to make an ex story So you're a little bit ahead of us. And mr lumbergh asked us to not called a q. On chaman chaman anymore. He says we should referred to him with dances with. Karen's from here on talk part all right back on. Typ jayjay john and rashad with you guys so lot more news. John let's do it. Let's do it okay. So we've been on the edge of our seat waiting to find out will enough republicans crossover to help. Establish an investigation into what happened on january. Sixth well the breaking news this morning was that there had been a procedural hiccup and we would have to wait to find out. You know. it's complicated will know they blocked. They stopped. it's as of right now. Knock going forward with them. Senate republicans and not just republicans honestly helping to block the creation of that panel. The senate vote was fifty four to thirty four fifty four to thirty five six short of the sixty needed to take up the bill that had already been passed in the house that would have formed. That evenly split ten member commission. It came a day after emotional. Appeal of motion appeals from police officers. Who fought against the riders. The family of an officer who died afterward lawmakers in both parties who fled capital chambers as the rioters broken but all of that emotional stuff has nothing to do with the orders were given to them from donald trump's so they were able to ignore all of fat really fast though. I do want to just give a little bit of credit to ryan grim who rightfully points out that it is amazing that on something fairly important like this. A fifty four thirty five vote could be described as a stinging loss stinging defeat there. Because that's how america works. If you can hold onto about a third of the country you can do whatever you want. You can stop whatever you don't want but as i said it was not just the lack of republicans crossing over in the end. A bunch of people didn't even show up to vote. Six republicans did vote with republicans. Eleven senators including nine republicans and two democrats. Just missed the vote entirely. Maybe they were still so terrified of being in the capital that they refuse to come back but I found one interesting inclusion on that list. nose pointed out in a nice little back and forth by jesse rodriguez points out that before the vote senators mansion and cinema joined together to put out statements saying employer senate republican colleagues to work with us to find a path forward on a commission to examine the offense of january sixth but if republicans did try to work with Kirsten cinema. they found it difficult since she didn't even show up for the vote. She didn't even take part in the end. There's a good chance he's going to become a republican. I was wondering why in the world would any democrat mrs vote. It's not like they're on the campaign trail or anything along those lines and so remember if to two democrats voted fifty. Six still don't have But oh toomey was a seventh republican who also didn't show up but bother to say yes. I would have voted. Yes right so that would have been fifty seven so it wasn't like a foregone conclusion that democrats are gonna lose cinema. Didn't show up anyway because she didn't want to be on the record those nine other republicans definitely didn't wanna be the record. You're like look if the coup goes the wrong way. We don't want to seem like we were part of the coup But if it goes the right way. I want to say oh yeah. Of course i voted. Espn january six commission. Dear leader and. I'm totally in favor of your authoritarian rule so those are the cowards in the republican party but the most important part of this guys is. That's it any talk of the republicans working with democrats on any agenda is gone gone. Gone anyone going forward that is talking about that is a one hundred percent liar because at this point even they know that there's no hope no prayer of the republicans ever voting with the democrats on anything list by the way. The democrats actually pass a republican proposal. Then then they would be in favor of it and then at that point barely right so this was the easiest one because not just because hey look. They came to try to kill us. Maybe you should investigate the people trying to kill us. It doesn't get any easier than that right but also because they gave the republicans every single thing they wanted. They wanted the not to be fair. There's one thing that kevin mccarthy wanted can we also investigate other random acts not related to january six but outside of that they gave him everything else they said evenly split. You guys can. They could have tanked the commission because they had the same number of votes as democrats even though they don't control the house of the senate they said we'll give you even coverage anywhere could blocked all witnesses effectively. They couldn't do anything to block it and they still voted no because the dear leader wanted them to vote no so there is a zero percent. Chance they're going to work with democrats on a meaningful infrastructure. Bill police reform joe by talking about police reform that the republicans are going to work with you on that gun violence. I mean come on. This is insanity with you on any of that stuff. If you are expecting ten republican votes you might as well make mitch mcconnell president. Because that's the only way you're gonna get ten republican votes on anything. Yeah and a few things happen here so one. Hopefully democrats can use this as your case. Study to get rid of the filibuster because you're not getting legislation like this again or an opportunity at legislation like this again. Republicans have proven. They are incapable of operating in. Good faith with bipartisan legislation. Remember the ten person. Committee was literally a bipartisan committee. Even though democrats technically control the senate they got the house. They got the presidency. They were willing to steal. Give republicans five appointments and democrats five appointments and that's it just to investigate what happened on january six. Let's go a step further. Here's what else we have seen. Republicans now won't record for being anti good cop. There were capital police who were injured dad. They're connected families. How are you pro-police but you anti good. Police are good policing at the capitol. They have gone on record and say they are actually anti good police or anti good policing but there are pro bad policing these are the same republicans that would defend a cop killer get unarmed black man or black woman. These are the same individuals. These other ones getting in the way of police reform. Even though ninety four percent of americans say it must happen. The percent of americans say it must be dramatic if a fifty percents. Republicans say it needs to happen. So this is what has happened on the record. You have a republican party who has not operated in good faith as it relates to the american people. Now all we going to be able to do something with it. It's the question can democrats. Joe biden vice president harris harrison others can they create a messaging technique to let the world know. These individuals are so unreasonable. It's time to get rid of the barrier and that barrier is the filibuster and almost every piece of legislation. I actually care about must have a supermajority of the senate. I'm tired of this. These guys will not loose from donald. Trump trump is pulling the strings. People continue to pull the strings and he will pull the strings until our democracy is not recognizable other democratic leadership at that. Exactly a duck. Richie was bringing up. You know the prospects possibly for this demonstrating how even though it doesn't need to be demonstrated how the filibuster we already know that. We already know that they're lying. And i'm not i'm not gonna read joe manchin comic. Because he said advanced find ten they didn't he's not going to learn because he wasn't expressing an actual position he was he was making noises at a reporter. That's it. But i do have another senator with a really frustrating stance on the filibuster that i'd love to hear your reactions to so so he'll kapoor asked dianne feinstein. If the filibuster stopping the salvator the commission would lead to her being willing to get rid of the filibuster she said. I don't see us abolishing the sixty vote threshold. I don't. This is the first time i've heard it. No one has proposed it. No one has talked to me about it. So it's a non issue. Yeah no has mentioned the possibility of reforming. I mean we can bring up her statement from her office in march where she talks about the potential need to reform eliminate the filibuster if the republicans continue to abuse that she says i'm open to changing the way the senate filibuster rules are used but apparently that statement was not delivered to dianne feinstein. So nobody's talked about it now. Guys this it's not no seriously it's not even funny. She we talk about or people in politics talked about oh a joe biden have dementia this. Donald trump have dementia. They're both in their seventies and said there is no question that Dianne feinstein is in mental decline. I'm not saying it. Because of the story we covered it before their people in the senate will go talk to her. She will not remember what they said earlier. In the day she will not remember what they said the day before she will say things and then not remember the thing that she said no. It's over. I don't know what it is. Technically dementia alzheimer's whatever it is. This is not a political trick. This is not anything. she's a democrat. She has mental health declined. There is absolutely no question about it. Gavin newsom has already started talking about who to appoint an airplane. Even though she'd ever said that she was going to step down the democratic party is all one hundred percent aware. Dianne feinstein is is not mentally healthy at this point. Okay and it's it's super sad to say but the corruption in dc so deep that you can never remove an incumbent. Dianne feinstein was in bad shape when she was running for reelection in two thousand eighteen and by the way it wasn't just democrats it was the media that yelled at us and they said no no. She's in great great shape. She oh my gosh. She's such a respected wonderful progressive. What are you guys doing. No no no. Don't it's now abundantly clear to everyone. You must get her out of office. Democrats have you no conscience. Have you no conscience right. And it's not even fair to her for god's sake or staff or family you've got sheep. I think she had a terrible career. Okay but i'm in the minority. Everyone in washington. We'll kiss her ass but while she's still celebrated among people who matter rather retire right. I don't know that. I don't think gavin newsom as a corporate democrat. I'd be shocked if he put progressive. She put barbara leeann into this seat. And she's earned it. She's an amazing woman in and he said it should be an african american woman. Perfect perfect right balance out. She's progressive was. We're going to get in california. California is incredibly progressive. Voters are said. But i don't think he'll do any of that yet. That's yeah and so but this is not about that we cannot have feinstein forgetting your own position and then coming out against the filibuster. That's insane and you're right john about mansion and he's caused this boat unconscionable unconscionable what what are you talking your unconscionable right and but these guys mansion cinema apparently feinstein. They're going to destroy our government. They're not gonna let the democrats pass anything. And it is an absolute guarantee. The republicans will run to say see. The democrats didn't pass anything and they'll say yeah and so and look at how to the point about how much the trump is mitchell. Republican party mcconnell said he trump should be investigated right after he voted to clear him on impeachment. He said no. I'm asking for an investigation. He has now turned around. He actively lobbied against this phone and said please please do not investigate donald trump because mitch mcconnell's powered has no leadership left so total loser and is that just another servant of donald trump. Just like ted cruz. Lindsey graham and others but but when biden listens the mansion who listened to mcconnell combined the his presidency to donald trump. What the hell did we all vote. For what the hell did we all vote for by. Look i don't care about the people in dc. Were so polite. Oh my god we'd be careful what you say about the powerful. Oh no no. I don't care. I don't care do something now. Otherwise you're incredibly weak incredibly weak and you're going to let them destroy every part of your agenda if in fact it's your actual agenda when i'm worried about eight week. It isn't your agenda. You wanna actually deliver for the people you said you'd deliver for your donors when you told them. Nothing would fundamentally change. I read that he was. Fdr two point. Oh and in fact doing too much too fast. Actually pump the brakes a bit buddy anyway. Okay let's move on to. We have to break. We're good okay. Let's do this very tragic story to talk about. It involves a covert death a cova death of a sheriff's deputy in denver and This death was announced on twitter by the denver sheriff's office talking about the fact that he had passed away tragically from a covert complications. His identity by the way is freely available both in their statements and the social media. Post will be showing you. But i feel as a person who lost a family member cova while i find this particular story to be very revealing about the effect that kovin misinformation being spread by incredibly powerful people has had Resulting in deaths like this deputy. I still feel uncomfortable on behalf of the family or for the sake of the family and so we're going to be obscuring the identity. That's this sheriff's. Deputy did pass away and in fact that department had lost another deputy just two weeks earlier to cove it now. I know maybe you're vaccinated. Maybe you live in one part of the country where it kind of feels like. The pandemic has passed. That thirty three year olds shouldn't be dying of covid cove. Many people are still dying of covid and many of them are dying needlessly. Now sheriff's deputies like other first responders in the state of colorado became eligible for the covid nineteen vaccination back in january and were among those allowed to have vaccines as the very first wave of doses. Were available in the state but the shots were not mandatory and it turns out that is true with many. This deputy was opposed to the vaccine. According to public posts on facebook page he posted multiple images and comments about mask wearing and the vaccine. So it wasn't just the vaccine. It was the measures all of what was being done to stop the spread of the virus. He posted things like before. You shame me in public for not having a mask. Ask yourself one simple question. Will this mask stop an uppercut the joke being that he will punch you in the face if you point out that he's exposing himself to a virus response to accommodate said laugh at up as the next wave hits and everything gets closed again. Because it's unfortunately we are seeing numbers climbing again. Sorry to down. But it's true one month ago he responded. I'm not afraid of the last wave or the next one and he wasn't he had been convinced that it wasn't a big deal but it was still a big deal. in america. a lot of people are still getting covert when it gets to those numbers in one second. I wanted to show you one more image that was being spread by a friend of the network can clip and stein posted a meme saying. I don't care if you've had your vaccine. I have an immune system with the issue with that being that the nearly six hundred thousand americans who've died of covert in the millions of others who will suffer life changing Side effects of having had it they had immune systems to when it wasn't enough to save their lives as it was not enough to save his life and so he passed away and he's not the only one at ty t. We frequently talk about all the ways. That big tech companies are taking control of our online lives constantly monitoring in story and selling our data. But that doesn't mean we have to let them. It's possible to stay anonymous online higher data from the prying eyes a bake tech and one of the best ways with express. Vpn express vpn heiser. Your ip address. May your activity more difficult to trace. And so that advertisers express vpn also one hundred percent of your network data to protect you from eavesdroppers and cybercriminals it's also easy to install a single mouse. Click protects all your devices. 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He was led to believe in sane things about covert as so many generally conservatives were and that is how you get to six hundred and sixty seven deaths. Today that's how you get to six hundred thousand deaths overall so far in the pandemic so This is mainly to try to help right. So they'll never believe it but most of the left wing is already vaccinated where i'm vaccinated over sixty percent in california's vaccinated we're fine and if you get vaccinated Even if you get the disease you get a small viral in your life. Very likely to be fine So we're actually trying to help the people who are not vaccinated like this officer but they just don't want it they just don't want our help they would rather have lies that endanger their lives then to believe the truth. So we're protecting his image cetera. Because it's of course. And i feel bad for him. I feel bad for him that he joined a cult. A psychologically and that cult convinced them that like almost literally drink the coolly and so it is something more yeah it also convinced them to tell other people that they are somehow dumb or silly or wrong if they take care of themselves and i want i want us to see how ironic it is that no one talks about not getting a cancer screening the same way. Nobody talks about not going to get a checkup. The same way like these are medical things. These are health centric elements that all of us engage in some level but this one thing is so important to some people that they must share their healthcare advice or their doctor nation to the rest of the world and tell people. The people don't get that prostate exam. Don't do that right or don't get your annual checkup. Don't do that. You don't need to do that but they're saying don't wear a mask. Don't get the vaccine and they become part of the ecosystem that creates death and yes. It's tragic it is sad but it needs to be revealed because opportunities like this teach lessons and there are people that were around him. That believed how they don't believe him anymore. That's why this story needs to be told and i and other brilliant point I had not thought about it that way. I mean who would go around going. Don't get cancer screenings. You don't wanna find out if you have cancer. I mean that would be the crazy thing you ever heard and here they are doing the craziest thing you ever heard heckling. Yeah just reminded of john kerry's line now when he was center but when he came back from vietnam are union a war and he said how do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake and right now the right wing probably the most predominant person in that cultures is at this point tug across even donald trump said. Take the backseat. But we'll yeah but Tucker carlson a spreading anti vaccine propaganda nightly on his program and he's basically asking you to be the last man die for a mistake Unfortunately this officer was one of those men but he isn't the last man There's going to be six hundred and sixty seven tomorrow and the day. After and the day after that is an unimaginable. You had six hundred and sixty seven. People died in a mass shooting. In one event it would be the largest new story for now. I hope i soon that'll become commonplace but what happens for covid. There's a third of the country's saying no big deal don't believe your lying eyes and it's okay. If our family members die it's amazing. I've never seen anything like it. It's jonestown on a mass scale. Yeah okay we gotta take a break so when we come back more shocking news. Unfortunately we'll be back bird. Kimball company world back during the associate break. Here gabby morita in our member section. Says i'm sorry. Ready to live in a universe in which our daily political dialogue isn't wholly dominated by the ravings of a toddler. Brain man baby twitter troll turned morrow blogger But he really is sad. This man of incredibly low. I q whose only talent is being a conman and bullies has taken over the country even when he didn't win he's still ruling and the weakness of democrats knows no bounds Crunch berry dragon says right. Wing own media radicalize the republican voting base before trump. He just ramped it up. Rush limbaugh was beginning the radicalization process of his listeners. At least thirty years ago yes. that's exactly right. Good point true and snowdrop says. How do we fight fox news. On top of the dams like cinema and mansion mainstream media does a terrible job at calling out the right look today. There was a new story. That jake tapper said. The republicans had no excuses for voting. No on january six commission because they had gotten everything they wanted. That's a new story when a news one of the most prominent news anchors one of the most prominent media stations in the world. But it's particularly in. America actually says the truth. That's breaking news is the most obvious thing in the world. Of course everything they want wanted to vote no anyway pointing that out an exception it's noteworthy every person media should've pointed that out but that's a breaking news. Hey somebody in media says something. That's true about republicans wall. They're getting really brave by the time revolutions over they might be super and their cells anyway makes his. They've got a point. If the left didn't exist then trump would have won again in his fans wouldn't have had to do an insurrection. Is the goal. Good old abusive. Why did you make me hit you. And yeah a lot of them. Think that way you know if the democrats are just given the relation to donald trump like. We asked them to or if mike pence had just said. It's not a ceremonial rule anymore. I there are no laws in america. And there's no constitution and he up the constitution on live television said donald trump is now king. Well then we wouldn't have to hit you right and yes. They believe the insane things like this. I'm going to be out of time here. Guys don't forget we're gonna kick off pride month with an annual. Lgbtq price special that we've got that's going to be on june first at eight pm eastern and it's just a great show in john's on it as well we'll be back back on the young turks. I have a fun announcement for you guys that i wanted to talk to you about so coming up on juice with. We're going to have a new show premiere. It's with dr rashaan richie. He's right here. Just took him indisputable. Dr rashad origene say eight weeks summer series and it's going to be on youtube an are platforms overall. It's weekdays every day at two thirty pm eastern so make sure that you're subscribing to youtube. Dot com slash indisputable. Ty t. by the way the first week. he's going to have killer. Mike as senator john off on dan. Here's a much more low wattage guests in the first show on on shchusev. I'm gonna come in and be with them on the first episode but rashad it just so great to have you in the network. Let me say this. I have been a fan of yours for years. So i feel like i have arrived brother and i'm thankful for the opportunity. It is humbling also To my john this all started on your show bro. Come on a year and a half ago man and i became a semi regular guest. You not We bobbed and here. It is so. I'm thankful for the opportunity man looking forward to doing what we always do. And that's still the troops. Of course you were doing amazing work long before those appearances. But it's been a pleasure to have you on During that time thank you look. We've talked in the past about all the wars that russia's one and and is a great shows in atlanta and it goes on and on and he but look. He is so strong. That's i his both him and his show. And i and it's called indisputable right. It's a great name. And i got to give all the credit bad to the team like the team came up with some great ideas. And we've vetted those names and t wasi has the absolute best production staff in In america on the planet because everyone needs not only what their talent but also with their heart and so it's an amazing atmosphere. All right so everybody. You got to check it out to thirty pm. Eastern starts on june seventh. Make sure you subscribe now. And by the way we're shuttle also battles conservatives. You're going to love that. You wanna talk about indisputable oser great moments so don't miss a minute of it. Okay all right news. I am fascinated to see what you're going to have to say. This is like tailor made for you. Well joe biden has apparently found backup position for a few of his key allies. Who were blocked in their initial quest to enter his administration That would be near attendant and little guy named rahm emanuel so. Let's start with near attendance so Her nomination to lead the office of management and budget was derailed by partisan opposition in the senate. She'll be becoming a senior adviser to president. Joe biden to white house. Officials told nbc news Last week so initially wanted to run the opposite of management budget. What will she be doing now. Well she'll be responsible for preparing for different. Contingencies is like a sentence designed to make you fall asleep and not follow what it saying responsible for preparing for different contingencies. That could result from the supreme court's consideration of republican lawsuits seeking to strike down the affordable. Care act she's also gonna launch a review of the united states digital service which the white house says has a crucial mission of making government accessible to the american people online. So i assure there is some overlap between how that job will function how running the o. m. b. would i guess management skills will come in handy but it is fascinating that man once he wanted to get into the government. Just whatever you know. I want to be president. I'll take transportation whatever same thing. It's so weird. How that works but anyway you probably of course remember. She got into trouble during her hearings because of some of her social media posts with republicans suddenly pretending that people being mean online is a really bad thing and they would never stand for that. That's not actually why she was blocked. But what do you think about her new position as a senior aide to joe biden. These are her roles right now but that could morph into virtually anything so it makes about all this number one. In the old days near attendant and leisa rahm emanuel would've run any democratic administration that came in especially when is concerned. Historically conservative is joe biden and so now rahm emanuel Just gonna is probably gonna get ambassador to japan. And so that's the thing that makes you know is a constellation price. And so he gets to call himself ambassador for the rest of his life and he'll feel good about that and most of these guys in policy when we care about echo right so that'll fulfil his ego a little bit but is irrelevant in terms of policy so good Rahm emanuel is not in charge right so now near attended then another Would call modern. But i would call them economically right wing Democrats got blocked by the senate. Now this is where it gets complicated. I disagreed with the senate blocking him. Blocking the all of the aches all very safe very moderate near tendons modern more corporate than almost any of them and they say she was too extreme right and so no. That's absurd to think that she was too extreme for republicans and i didn't want their fain. Oh come on with. Donald trump is probably come on. Come on come on right. So i didn't want to set the precedent that the republicans get to be biden's cabinet. So i thought they should have fought more for her but not based on her or her ideology but principle the republicans should not set the cabinet but once they lost that fight in the and biden withdrew her that i got interested in near attendant. I don't want near attending to senior adviser to joe biden. She'll probably be most conservative adviser and in terms of what's more powerful ownby director is very powerful because it controls the budget but remember it doesn't really control. The budget controls the first draft of power. The first draft is very very powerful but at the end of the day they're gonna make joint decisions. Senior adviser means. You're the room. Yeah and they found an excuse to put her in the room. If we're being honest about it right and we are the rest of the media won't but she's going to deal with if the aca affordable care act gets knocked down in part by the supreme coordination is preparing ahead of time for as a supervisor role. And then she's gonna digital blah blah blah. No no. that's being around. Yeah that means hang around. She's in the white house every day in the daily briefings everyday and give me conservative pro-corporate advice no that her more power not less power and so i do not like this development at all. I don't think near should have gotten that job. But it's not up to me. The chief of staff ron clean is old friends with her. They worked together before and they were going to get him. Get her in by hooker by crooks so this means unfortunately rahm emanuel. Getting sideline was good news. I was hoping that this would get a minor role and it would be. Generally good. News progresses a rising a little bit and the democrats are falling a little bit. But given that she's going to be in the oval office every day. No it is not good. News they are not falling. Conserved democrats still very relevant. Joe biden circle. Yeah i agree with you on her one hundred percent let me go to rahm emanuel like you. He's worst mayor. Chicago is ever had He has engaged in systemic. Cover up the murder of mcdonnell. He did some other things that were contrary to growth progress in that city when rama manuals name came up during the election of joe biden. Black folks made it very clear. Joe don't go there. This is a guy that we have deemed to be a no okay. He disappears for a moment. And after joe biden gets elected because a whole lot of black people showed up at places like candle road in the state of georgia The democratic primary south carolina. They changed the entire trajectory full-body when things started happening we made an assumption that joe biden will listen to black holes and then joe biden what he finally makes his acceptance speech. He uses the term or the phrase. You have my back to the black community. And i got yours or joe. This is not having our back. Mr president we don't won't rahm emanuel anywhere near government. I get it being ambassador to japan. That is kind of a sideline position. I feel like these guys will somewhere fina for government jobs and it's almost like just give me whatever you got. I'm tired of it because it sends the wrong message to the group that you need to come back out and be excited to vote. You're not excited about voting for you. Again people connected to you when you give positions of nobility and power to individuals who have been contrary to the progress of black americans. And that's the reality of this big to me the fact and so and joe biden Forever thinks he's balancing interests. And i get the urge to do that when you're president But when there are such things as red lines and there's a very good reason for raw manual to be a red line both progressives and african americans and and and why why would you pick a guy so conservative that he is universally despised not by republicans. Republicans generally fine with him There's all this talk about. How tough raw manuals. He's never ever ever been tough to a republican. I've never seen one instance of it. And i followed the news with microscopic attention. He's only been tough to progressives he celebrated for being a person who hates progresses and he was awful african americans in chicago so who. What do you owe him. And why do you owe him so much. That you're willing to go against your base your core of your base to give him this job and the reality is they just can't let go of the past so they love conservative democrats. They love corporate democrats. And this is. Joe biden showing that love to that. Yeah yeah and it's believing that positions in government to government. Salary is just sears. Stand out i mean. How many times over the last four years did we get. Enraged at the corruption gifts of the trump family handing out things to his family members giving them positions. They weren't qualified for. This is the same thing is run manuals. Not joe biden's brother or anything but it's our resources our tax dollars being put into a guy who's just getting something because he's been around for a while he didn't earn it. He's not going to work for he's just being given it. We should be as angry as we were back under. Trump's yeah and he doesn't have a history of success. I could understand if some individuals probably may not ideologically aligned with my full agenda but they have a mark history of success somewhere you have with this catamarca history of failure and you're still making him win somehow still creating positions for him to win. There are people that that are actually winning. Who are progressives who have great ideas. Who have been able to implement and execute these ideas and you are universally not to the vast majority of them because their natural buddy buddy. And here's what's happening a democratic politics and it happens that republican politics. It's a good old boy network. that's what it is. This is the good old boy network democratic style. They had a little more swag. But it's the same thing hundred percent right all right. We got in the first hour. Second hour has amazing stories back. East calling for violence. Marjorie taylor green being overtly out of control racist. It goes on and on but Before we let jonah go check damage. Report wonderful. Show john killing it on that show But june seventh indisputable with dr rashaan. Richie starts to thirty pm eastern every day to thirty. Pm eastern every day so go subscribe now. Youtube dot com slash indisputable. Ty t. all right. John you guys the best. 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Amazon Aggregators  Who Are They? With Jim Mann of Thrasio

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Amazon Aggregators Who Are They? With Jim Mann of Thrasio

"Welcome to the yankee. Collective podcast for six seven and eight amazon and e commerce sellers apart of the amazing fbi family if you want to scale fast target seven figure exit and enjoy the process. Thank you for listening. Today's episode is sponsored by the new e commerce podcast the ecommerce leader co hosted by myself michel visi and jason miles top one percent a shop if i store owner and unionists highest rated e commerce instructor. If you're the owner of a thriving e commerce business look for the commerce leader on your favorite podcast and subscribe today. Hello folks well. Glad to have had a chance to finally introduce you to jim man. Jim's been a friend of mine for several years and a really a true english gentleman is the way i will categorize jim and in a world of sort of half trees and exaggeration that we get with the amazon space and then particularly has to be said with people that are talking about buying and selling some businesses. That's very reassuring to think that matters. So gyms the good kind of guy to got his to it. Obviously you've got a very big background in amazon selling being a personal friend through that network of people in the uk and also obviously now learning a lot from fratto as he talks about. Why selling very personal decision. I think it strikes me that it's not quite being a parent. But i guess it's a bit more like being a coach or a teacher with somebody that is helping somebody in pas the stage development and at some point. If you really care about a person. I guess you hand them over to somebody else. You can save that the next stage of their journey. If you don't feel able to do that. I've done that with sent musical instrument teaching for example. That might be true for sports coach. And i guess maybe in a similar way can g for a business owner. That business could go a long way. But they don't have the time the expertise or frankly the money to do that. So selling now is a pretty great decision in many ways. If you're gonna sell toll because the multiples gang crazy so amazon is taking. The lion's share of the uptick in online selling prices have gone up. Multiples of very very high and aggregated. May actually find. That doesn't work so well in the future so amazon isn't getting any easier. The texan political landscape is getting much hard our speaking to his client this morning. He was just starting out. But i was talking about expanding. She's importing the from india and she's talking about expanding to europe and germany even a year ago until april two thousand twenty one now that would have been a pretty straightforward move although that would have been a sword of damocles hanging over it but now it's just really complicated because the political landscape has changed and the same would be true if you've been talking about importing from china to the usa prior to the two thousand seventeen eighteen when that landscape changes well. So it's not getting easier and that's one reason why if you've got an established business it kind of adds to the value of it because the people coming off to you gonna find it harder so that could be a reason to consider leaving as well other points that really struck me get a cfo and most people don't have a handle on cash flow. So i really think that that's really excellent advice. Get a if not a full-time chief. Financial officer financial director. Fd as we recall it in the uk at least get a fractional cfo. In other words you can come in and work on your business. Maybe once a week maybe even once a month but get a handle on the numbers account stress how important i've seen that to be for operating businesses. But gyms there to tell you that it's so important if you want to sell your business as well valuations interesting. We talked about that. The normalizing things surprising pricing in this sort of covid bump. That's home for a lot of people and germany's speaking value in the businesses and interesting one timing has obviously had a big effect on things but overall it's one of those things where again i guess. If you've got a good handle on the finances you're going to have more of a handle on the actual value of your business rather than some kind of feeling in your heart but because you put blood sweat and tears into it. That is worth more than possibly i guess anyway. So that's Mice of few takeaways from today. Next time we're gonna talk about more of the selling landscape and who to sell to. What an aggregate is and. What's the difference between them and other types of people like brokers will talking about the perception in the marketplace. Aggregates is gonna offer only a terrible multiple. That may be true couple of years ago. Thing shifting now what to look out for with aggregated as well and so those are the upcoming things in the next show. Please listen for that. If nothing else jim has been around the block as seller are now from the buying side so very worth listening to and learning from what i always say to. My clients is what i'm going to say to you now which is always at least talk to experts. You don't have to sign any paper. You don't have to agree anything but you you. If a lawyer will talk to you for free accountable talk to you for free. And if an aggregate or other former business bio broker. We'll talk to you for free. I would definitely have those conversations because those people. He's opinions valuable to highly educated. The only expensive. You have to actually by that time. And it's going to inform you a huge amount about your business. Even if you never. Sal your business in your life so i would think brokers and aggregate is are right up there for me for people really should be talking to you. Don't have to sign your life away to anything but those conversations are really going to educate you. I hope that today's episodes being poetry education. If you find it useful. I'd really love it. Of course if you could just give some love back by guarantee. I guess works apple podcast and giving us a rating one to five stars and if you can review that even better of course but either which way. Don't forget to subscribe on your podcast player. Choice will keep trying to produce this work. That will help. Be six seven or eight figure saleh that is growing either to scale to wonderful eight figure. Lifestyle all ta seven-figure exit. Thanks very much for listening speech in the next show by the way i let the analogy with the status because again i mean it's interesting. Isn't it the the mental models we use unconsciously are really worth bringing to the fore and examining even as a metaphor even if it's a crude metaphor. The metaphor for amazon is not replacing the day. Job it's property investment and again you've got an asset with a certain amount. There's a market for it. That somewhat liquid less could farms and businesses but right now fairly liquid as you said. There's a lot buying and selling in other words just like say teijin. While the way a million quid for those we listen. North american means million pounds or about one point two three million bucks at the moment. Yeah off we hear you right as kane crazy again. Yes and as you say it's a year of the big number and the promise and particularly the credibility and sort of style and the superficial elements of of the nice suit. Fox's guys turned up in fox's very high end real estate or status here yeah has influenced and i think what's different what i wanna fly out. There is really different between the two we need to explore. This question of deal starts because you sell a house. Somebody gives you the money. Either is cash plus a mortgage. Or if you're really lucky cash biol- although cash buyers for impact properties or one point four million bucks. Whatever going to be less common than than there with mortgage but basically. It's a lot of hassle with lawyers for two or three months. Maybe four or five lucky. And then it's done and you got the money and you walk away. And obviously as you're implying there are various different structures around so this earnouts idea and the role models the things we just dig into sa- festival. Tell me a bit about the the deal. Structures are the basics that are on offer and at what the things are surprising collins from the seller's perspective. Yeah yeah you can negotiate different things but generally if you try if you Hundred percent cash upfront. You all taking the risk out of the deal but you're also again getting lower than you will if the if the it's a successful It's not quite that way. But for every dollar you take up front away from the you'll probably sacrificing two dollars on the title of the are now but the as not guarantee which is why it's really important the Selling to anyone has a an out. Billions that deal structure that you really really due diligence on that credibility on the house and you can join the dots but that a lot of people copying the business model at the moment with very similar narrative on the reality is there aren't many people out there. You've got So outs are great. If you're in the hands of the right team and if you're not if you're sending someone who doesn't have a track record you wanna get your money up front. But the put john zarrella. Did you get your money up front republican sacrifice Exit number because there is a risk model. You risk a little bit on the tail and selena. Three or four writes frequently. Become six seven eight connects because it can be on as a perception in the marketplace. Go gates isn't it. To extent it was true but here to paint to x. out from multiple golden wind nossa anemones fry in a good on out frost. Six is typical fi- five is not great. Ten is not unheard of either. The parrot in sing so i think the just to reflect on that first of all a couple of things. I guess what you're saying is you can't have your cake and eat it. So if you would allow the risk lower the reward and i make sense and the second thing is you really got to know due diligence on if you doing out. You kind of really dependent fuel wealth on the ability of the a- gator or indeed the by to actually manage your account well and as you pointed out i think i don't want to gloss over. This thing is critical. We'll know how much was sweated. Is to manage one amazon account. Or i've got a couple of clients. One class five amazon brands which has gotta that mental. he sees me managing. Okay he's got a business partner in the forest which kind of helps. But even so if you multiply that by twenty thirty suddenly as you say that that's not incorrect basic concept by the original one ecommerce or whatever is one of those guys is not an incorrect in theory but as you say the practical problem is is huge and none of us should ignore amazon seller. I was an account management experience. And what i in tuition would tell us it like this hard amazon by the way is massive irrational and a inconsistent response to pretty much everything as we all know right so we shouldn't use park that knowledge so i think it's important to hop on there for say. Tell me a bit more about this perception in the marketplace you will not wrong is if you speak to brokers they will sort of mother. Dr aggregate is offering you two point five x bag chips fuel for your heart and brand. Then you're saying that's really shifted. The last couple of years being told me a bit more about that. Kazadi is an important thing to nail. Yeah it's like. I said at the top of the coal united. The the market's moved partly driven because yet let's rewind five years ago even raising money to borrow to defeat to get cash flow led finance to feed growth on arms impossible lending banks get can get ahead johnny Amazon lending started lending. And then you have pay add in some of the shipping companies and suddenly the There's a lot of niche finances around you. for now. electronic fundings goldman sachs as institutional money coming in amazon ecosystem now and so the perceived platform. There's always gonna platform risk. But the perceived platform risk is going down over time as multi posits as modi to show that the platform is less. I don't know if you think about the opportunities. Folk investment retails dying in other that many places. Any comas occupied feet shot on the current. Big behemoth in a coma says amazon so because of those key drivers people willing now pay more than they would have done. Two years ago a year ago so that's driven multiples up. And then you've got the comp competition that you've got more aggregates you got more people wanting to get into spice People willing to spend more tightly. Make sense to me yet so just to recap the basically. There's more money. Coming in now. And i guess like so relatives i mean. I'm in businesses to have suspension risk. Still but there's a risk of your high speed shop which looks all safe in two thousand nine hundred and getting shut down and never reopening because by the time you reopened. You've had to pay a ton of money to staff who haven't done a day's work not because they're lazy but because they're not physically or legally allowed to enter the shop so yeah relative to that situation i guess ecommerce looks lower risk and again to your point of the fact that this is a a wave. I didn't use the word bubble of hers tempted while happens. Next when when institution investors start looking again Yeah but the high street is about life and there is still amazon. Suspension risk against. That could swing again right. So it's interesting that they're all sweet spots. And i guess again without sort of putting people under undue pressure on china sort of in dc. Responsible behaviour. I do think it's important to recognize that there is wave here and the best time to open the way for them. What you go past. And then get excited. In retrospect and by the way i'm very capable of i am. I used to buy property in two thousand seven which is kind of like the word the worst times to buy property because i guess partly because i had the money then partly i'd been swept up in the fever like everyone else so i guess if you're gonna get swept up at the time is now rather than in twelve months time finding listening to this and so funny enough we're supposed to be normally we have t month delay between recording publishing at the moment. Not because we try to but because we have so much to quality interviews in the in the can which is good but one of the things that striking man like Y- by may twenty two thousand nine hundred one this chain so we might join together a funny how these waves go on how we should handle them. So just i guess a couple of things to survive this episode up. The first thing is you've already alluded to some of this stuff. But what stuff should you look out for as the seller amongst aggregated in particular since there such a big part of the market the moment it's there are a lot of people in the space and i think there are different categories of aggregates You've got the guys that are driven. They've come from venture Vc and they all emulating of business model and all learning effect today about how to upper damson ecosystem. I would cite the probably in the high risk bucket because as anyone an knows. It's not made. It's it's a wall and you haven't got you know so. I say level operational capability if you acquire a brand. You're going to struggle. So i think. The aggregated have the best johnson success at the ones where the operational and there are some have that there are some that hiring amazon employees. I think Albright saddam's pro-united amazon's often the last place to find out what really goes on on that platform so again. The common sense for hiring amazon employees is fantastic. But the reality is. I'm not quite sure. So i'll stop at is that they will be som aggregate misfiring in about twelve to eighteen months. 'cause there's been a huge amount. Capital has been We're seeing really office flying by the whole time that possibly on which is like. Wow and the logical consequence of that is that if the paying very high and as limited operational capability that At the consequence of that is obvious in bill tiktok's to manifest itself and then when that says than. That's when we come down to what's going to be happening in the year rows time probably but imagine that prices will stabilize a little bit on sound somebody off his cena at mental. This no ricca to what off. It's and it's i think it's just driven by the need to deploy capital rather than the needs to might sane decisions so That's very enticing. For saleh because he out front looks fantastic but the diligence on the tile. Because i think. I'm saying that the ones that are desperate to by doing these offers are the ones that are probably have the highest risk when it comes to delivering on if you'll objectively sell your business whether it's now until you tell me finish run out is to have x. amount in the bank the tame the In the bank of the guys at the best operators yeah. It's a really great warning and also think us objective. And i think that's a very very good because weirdly enough and i think this is such an entrepreneur. Sort of jewel mentality. we have to have. It's really hard but really absolutely necessary. Is this you got on. The one had a lot passion and emotion involved and because you've got the passion to create something while in a war zone effectively as you say and that is not wrong the way it feels anyone he sold for one the year. What will not you know what it feels like. We had that feeling and said well friends in moss minds fourth and yet when you sell it you're still going to be emotional and you have to be real about that. You have to rationally manage the irrational of the fact that emotions are involved and you have to recognize and on the other hand and this is the tricky at the same time. I think you have to have a knowledge that its objective. It's a maths equation of real complex one but it is a mass equation. Your aggregate is offering you something which for them is clearly unsustainable it's unsustainable period and the fact that you looked like you should be getting money from that and they're overpaying if the deal structures upfront one hundred percent cash as you say. I'll take the money of run but otherwise it is not which is why the big multiples actually really gonna come your heart. You obviously right that. If something is unsustainable it will not be sustained and that's just two words that put together what unsustainable and seasoning environmental things about financial things but people. Don't take the adjective intern. So now no. It's verbal that okay if it's not sustainable it will not be sustained. Deaf will do not make this deal. And i think this could be true for supply of deals as well like if it looks too good to be true it probably is and i think it's it's just get old school. You know skepticism and due diligence we would do with the supplier. That selling stuff weirdly. I guess when. We're selling something to other people. I ate the business we built. It feels like very much the flip side of the same process like really to do diligence on the financials on the stability on the competence on the detail of the financial structures and and really i guess wait enough. That brings me back almost to finish comfort zone as as an amazon says. That's familiar right. We will have to do diligence. Lhasa plaza be meticulous in the quality. Control i guess we need to kind of develop a qc process for aggregate as buyers. Really i mean against that kind of brings us to a point where we had a neat little ten point less checklist of how to check out your aggregate as we could sell out to people got the next best thing. Which is you've got a series of podcast hosted by your head of marketing and there are lots of instinct things there including what to expect in twenty twenty one to scale and grow your brand. So we've got a link to that amazing. Fbi dot com for slash three. She'll just tell us a quick bit about about what's the on offer that so what came to be an open book as much as possible on. We've got an amazing team Casey cows and let the senior leadership team. I look around here. We've got new guys ation in this just unbelievable talent and we need that to help ranking winning lot we are but equally confident in the we can give as much as we can because it's the combination of those people the force or any one of them so to have one of the victims showing knowledge obse clara which adds value engages people to trust the brandon knight successfully. Come to us and south right so this series of podcast being hosted and genuinely about giving valuable content to help satisfy their businesses january hosted by brandon and john s. Vp's creative and marketing side. Those guys at driving Accountable basically for all the traffic. And every listing fifteen thousand skews that we manage to amazon the western fifteen thousand excuses crazy number even more Say that they are definitely going to be with isn't too. That's that's extremely the other thing. Like one. One last thing by the way on aggregate says and i think this is really useful. Hypotheses fleming right what was saying a lot as people being offered like code timesheets will allies less than ten being Very quickly and pay very little diligence being done on behalf of the kwara The tactic is no strategy. Is a tactic is once you sign an alpha an y. You're off the market effectively. And so what's happening is getting very inflated offers. The inevitably during diligence. They have the option to walk away. Now that is really really depressing potentially abusive for the seller. Because once you've signed that you feel you've got commitment from someone to buy your business at that number and when people have fallen off these otherwise in two days of talking. They can't done Diligence on business so one thing people aggregated also. Anyone else watch how long it takes them on the questions. They're asking before they offer. Nfl feel they send you an amazing offer and they haven't many questions that is a huge red flag because the chances that they'll completing at that price of very small number one and if they do complete at that price. When i haven't done any diligence before putting that number on the on the boards it also be a symptom of not really knowing how to operate and said the whole evaluation processes out kilter thousand nine. And i think that again it comes out to the looks too good to be true. It probably is but also. The mass equation doesn't balance and and what you said by the way i think he's into the dynamic that we have to understand the best one of the most important parts of negotiations understand the other person's point of view didn't have to sympathize. But you need to at least understand and it feels to me. A bit like weirdly. Enough at the hyper capitalistic. And where you venture capital or institutional capital is being advanced to people like frost or anybody else the fact that you have to spend it or lose it really reminds me of a government department which is yeah weirdly the same dynamic which means to a lot of strange activity which is not strictly speaking commercially driven. Even though theory this is like hyper capitalism. it's kind of not really commercially. Driven decisions in other words. Am i gonna get a return on capital. How what's the risk reward ratio and we're gonna get my cup to back plus a a thing. How much risk of the capitol for forgiven level for award or they sort of commercial type questions is being driven by evidence. Spend this. I'm going to get fired. And then we're gonna liza funding in the business. Collapses win some amazing stuff has been going on what we we had a few months ago. A new icu gates come to us with fine. Five timesheets signed. They had gone and sold themselves in an aggregate Unsigned five timesheets. Not a penny in the bank. And i kind to us and said this is not uncommon. Visa you son attempt she in any way around in the markets and raise the money and they thought they would try and get away with that another recent one we noticed one of the Someone who's active in the market suddenly bidding Crazy numbers like this is really odd. Behavior then turns out that there was a plan a again a tactic too tight the company timesheets for signing mulcahy's now can we rise five times as much as time said they're always dynamics at play. The driving dissolve behaviors in the mall. And unfortunately the unwitting victims in battle of the sellers sellers. It's the first go into a situation. That donald diagnose Stories was someone there was an nda and when they looked at it closely is actually hit the times and that was going to be used to raise money to buy that business and India so you're not a little bit at the moment because there's all sorts going on in jail is the gold rush and when his money's being made all sorts of stuff comes through. I've just got all she needed to question of. What's a heads of terms. Our effect just defensively similar also an ally united them intense. I i if you'll signing this to agree that based on these high level times you will sell a business okay. Funding agreement to sail in broad terms. The spirit of what the contract will at like a like a memorandum of understanding. This is it. That's the not dissimilar but again that in the hands of someone can then goats the capsule markets and they will try and raise money on the back of thought that they wouldn't otherwise pay. So you know if you're a satellite. You come by an entrepreneur. He's now trying to sell that business. And you think you think you just signed an nda you think you're talking to someone who's really credible given a fantastic pitch you know. Just scratch bonds officer on how on how much whether the funding is actually cash. Or whether it's that you know when people say that we've raised fifty eight hundred million two hundred million he scrapped. The we've raised can mean many different things they might be in theory. They can spend fifty million by on this on attempts. You'd have to get approved by the fund. No actually it's not liquid cash. They can can release So getting into kind of slightly mind playing waters. But i mean i guess that one of the reasons that people should you know. Follow things like this. Point is just to connect to get into some of this detail. I think i. I love the detail of the stuff. I am rather than trying to turn people into ammon advises overnight or experts rather derail as many points. And i guess the the moral of the story is that you need to be homework on the the the buyer actual. They've got the money to. Let's put it in simple terms debt equity that since you mention it we better never went down and better let you go and let the people who have facebook and sitting documen with the dumped of the head to recover from their brains working hard but tell me a bit about. What's what's the critical difference in the data equity question. Here i would just always cook. You can say that funding structure on how much cash that you have available to deploy cash available to deploy 'cause the press releases al-samrai grand you Seal the press releases around in ten fifty hundred five hundred million to why in which the data structures is what really drives everybody to capitol so unequally how they can invest in your brand as buying o'brien. That's another having twice as much money to then really celebrating. Christ 'cause it's an adventure driven business which requires the if you're gonna ten business. You need love. Cash available people aside. Yes those plays with. Brings you got says the comfort zone which is cash driven business. How much cash do they have. I guess the similar reason why you might sell is because you don't have enough cash to ten x the brand but you totally know that it could you believe. I guess that blend of passion an objective. Right it's entrepreneurial belief which may or may not to be substantiated. This could go somewhere. This has got legs. The trend is out. People are loving it all the signs there and guess what we're going to need ten million dollars to to grow this thing over the next three years. Never mind the next time. And and i guess the same chief niagara gate if they're not have cash cash just like if you don't have cash cash as opposed to sort of promises and hopes and dreams and whatever letters of intent from funding bodies or potential investors or whatever but not actually in the bank then as you say. It's not actually going to be that to grow the business world life so that's a good sobering but hopefully for most people myself included have relatable would do they have the cash to grow business they have the cash to pay you for your business indeed so take some good warning signs but also just think in the end of very fascinating time and for anyone. He's enjoyed as you clearly have an as i do. Well thing of learning new skill sets a think educating yourself as an amazon operator to now think of your business as an asset and then to educate yourself about the ecosystem within which that lives in other words the people who are raising money. Who's behind it and to just learn your trade as as sort of mea participants. We save nine. But i think it's a view embrace it the right way a great learning opportunity in on a fascinating game to be part of the end. I guess that's one of the reasons for me that we ended up in this business right so very interesting stuff. Jim is ever like in one of the reasons. I'm delighted that you're working for varsity s nine of the years. You're like the quintessential british gentlemen. As far as i'm concerned and the giant americans have outfit so i think that's a great combo because that that can do attitude the amount of capsule the is available in the us system particularly for the right. Things is incredible. And you'll the kind of bridge for the uk. But not only if the cost of the bridge for people who want to you know benefit from feeding frenzy. That as you save right now is happening. So people want to get in touch with the presumably. They could some email as well if they know already that they're interested in having a discussion about potential sale. So what's the best way to get hold of you for that. Jim dot mind with two ends at thrust iso. Oh just through. A website thrust dot it hr instead appropriate. T. h. a. s. the i. s. dot org jim dot man thrust is great. Yeah obviously you have huge amounts of knowledge and that sort of common sense and sort of wariness of the red flags which you still keeps it polite which is what. We want very british. We like i said we pass on a lot of businesses. We look at one thing that i think is fair to say is that willow was fines. If possible. business would always say his vocal passing on his what you can do. I'm waiting i. It becomes like a consultative process but we extend united. We stand up. I'm really sorry not going to jail but histon stuff that would really make a big difference in your business and that's really valuable for absolutely. I always say to pretty much. Everybody i know he's got a substantial business is even slightly thinking of selling please go into his and aggregate. He's sign anything. Before you've taught some people in thirty three but equally the education you get from is immense. And as i said i think that is now part of the skills that we need to add to operations dealing with the basics of of the scene out there and getting our head around the if nothing else it's just gonna make you better business personnel and i'm just slipped plays on the quote. That always comes to mind here. Which is warren buffett. Said the the better business. Become the bedroom investor. I become better investment. Become but a business person i am so i think thus really got to be true for amazon sellers in my experience as well and so this is really been hopefully that educational process and as ever revelation speaking to you kind of pick up the phone to multiple times the last few months dumb questions. And you know it's it's really fantastic. You know that the consultation value that you bring alone is massive so i can say from personal experience that that you have so much wisdom common sense in this field now and you know you've said lee learnt learn you'll feel now and yet you have that memory of the the seller know fighting out there in the war zone so that's a really great combo so it's been great to be able to find share that with the public that we have access to here and just want to say many things coming on the show. Please do come back As things develop over the next few months and xiaoli an update on the markets but for the moment is remains for me to say many many. 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Rashid Talib

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Rashid Talib

"Howdy welcomes the young turks. I'm your host anna casts burian and says it's wednesday. I'll be hosting the first hour so low. But don't worry second hour we're gonna bring on john zarrella host of the damage report to help me decode some of what's going on in the news. What's going on with marjorie taylor green. What are her accusations on the house floor. I'm sure you all want to know about it. And john will be here to help us get through all of it together. we're also going to discuss of course The ongoing violence in gaza and There's quite a bit of media critique to go along with our coverage so i'm really looking forward to discussing that with you all in just a few minutes But as always. I just wanna encourage you guys to go ahead and share the stream if you're watching online especially on youtube. It's one of the best ways and the easiest ways to help support. Ty t. and get the message out there now. A lot's been going on obviously with the violence in gaza. Unfortunately benjamin netanyahu is refusing to let up with the incessant airstrikes But before we get to the calls for a ceasefire. I do want to immediately start right off the bat on my media critique because as i was getting ready for the show today as i was doing my hair making myself presentable i came across an interview that jake tapper was doing and it. It really caught my attention. So let's get to it. Let's get right to that story and you'll see why i was so upset. Progressive democrats are calling for an immediate ceasefire when it comes to of course the airstrikes that the israeli government continues to do on gaza The number of civilian deaths has shot up and even though biden has increased his calls for For a ceasefire his early. Doing it privately. He's not really being aggressive about it and there are consequences to that now. Would we began covering the current Violence we made sure to let you guys know how that violence began. Why is it that this conflict which was largely dormant. All of a sudden became as violent as it is as violent as we're seeing today. Well i will remind you all of what started it. But before i do. I'm gonna show you an example of how journalist or so called journalists television cable news. Anchor frames the question. Inaccurately i bring you jake tapper and his question to progressive democrat camelia. Paul you are calling for an immediate ceasefire between israel and kamaz question. Because you've been critical of israel. What do you think the appropriate response for. The israeli government military should be given that this particular military conflict began ten days ago with kamaz firing rockets indiscriminately at israeli. No no this conflict did not start ten days ago with hamas indiscriminately firing rockets. That is not true. It is not true you should watch the full interview to get a sense of what pernille paul had to say. But for the purposes of this story i want to focus on jake tappers inaccurate propaganda framing of that question because it did not start ten days ago. It didn't it didn't and honestly you don't even have to do much research to figure out why it is that the violence has gotten to the point that it has why there is so much aggression by the israeli government toward palestinians in the gaza strip. If you guys need me to remind you all in fact. It's jake tapper. A cable news anchor with unlimited resources means me who works for an independent new show to inform him about how this recent conflict started. I'll go ahead and do it. You know in fact. Let me go ahead and rely on a mainstream media outlet to help me to to bolster the argument that i'm trying to make here. Let's hear what. Cbs news had to say about how this more recent conflict started. This all began almost a month ago when especially young palestinians were angered by israeli limits on ramadan. That now since the beginning of it done they have escalated to the point of absolute provocation or adding fuel to the fire is the plan depiction of several palestinian families from home as in east jerusalem that the israeli courts have ruled along to juice so this actually started a month ago during the month of ramadan. Where benjamin netanyahu who has failed to form a new government and is facing criminal. Corruption charges decided to deflect from those issues to maintain maintain power. And the way that he did it was by stoking. Tensions and essentially limiting the religious practices of palestinians in israel. That's what he did. That's how it started and that report fails to mention that. Israeli forces raided the alexa mosque several times. That's also relevant portion of this story. That was oh so conveniently left out by jake tapper and the ridiculous framing of his question. So we need to be factual in how we cover. This is hamas firing rockets into israel. Yes is that the same as what the israeli government and the idea is doing right now know. Both sides are not equal. Both sides are absolutely not equal. We're dealing with israel which has an incredibly sophisticated well-funded military with incredible and defense capabilities. And then you're looking at gaza which democratically elected hamas whether you like it or not and hamas does not have the same military capabilities. It does not have the same weaponry and it certainly doesn't have the same international support that israel has doesn't have the same american support. That's for sure that israel has so we need to call spade a spade. We need to be factual what's happening on the ground. That framing was pure propaganda. It was a lie. I don't know if it was intentional. I don't know if it was a mistake. But what i do know. Is that what you see in that interview in. The framing of that question is a continuation of this legacy media narrative of what's happening in israel in gaza in the west bank. We need to stop pretending as if everything starts with aggression by hamas and the fact that palestinian palestinian citizens of israel are being evicted from the homes that they've lived in for decades the relevant part of the story. Isn't it the fact that jake tapper just erased that reality in the framing of his question is telling all right. Let's move on to these calls for an immediate ceasefire. We're not getting that from joe biden but luckily we do have some progressive democrats who are calling for that. Hamas has agreed to an immediate ceasefire. As long as the israeli government meets to in my opinion very simple conditions. Let me tell you what they are. Awesome officials say it would only stop launching rockets at israel to were met that israeli forces and police agree to never again enter the mosque the mosque that they actually rated a few times. And the palestinians living in the shakira neighborhood in east jerusalem not be evicted by jewish settlers from homes. Their families have lived in since the nineteen fifties hamas and asking for anything out of the ordinary. there's just asking. Hey you know this. more recent. By the israeli government against palestinian. We just need that to stop. Stop rating the mosque. Please stop victim palestinians from their homes. All we're asking for. And guess what benjamin had to say about that. No we're not interested. Israel's military would not comment on any plans any plans for a ceasefire on wednesday but israeli prime minister. Benjamin netanyahu made it clear that the military is not over. Work is not over in fact He says with every passing day. We're striking at more of the terrorist organizations capabilities targeting more senior commanders toppling more terrorist buildings and hitting more weaponry stockpiles. He said before adding that he was quote determined to continue this operation until its objective is achieved to restore quiet and security to you citizens of israel by the way there are palestinian civilians and citizens in israel who certainly have not been living in peace as a result of benjamin netanyahu's aggression toward them. That should be noted for the record so he doesn't really care about all citizens just the jewish citizens of israel now with that said he makes it appear as though the israeli defence force is specifically focused on the Hamas commanders generals and in no way has any interest in targeting civilians But when you look at the civilian death count faxer pesky pesky little things. Aren't they because they certainly counter. What benjamin netanyahu had to say watch it was mainly young. Men hurling rocks but other protesters. What middle class families children and white collar workers people may soon alley told. She's a banker then. Lots is not worth more than our lives young kids and and you're saying he talks during work no twenty five years. What did they give us. Fool palestinians were reported killed and israel claims to soldiers was shot in the leg. The we saw no gun on the palestinian side. Palestinian frustration is what fuels amass. A group considered a terrorist organization by the us. It's fired more than three thousand rockets at israel since last week. Killing two civilians yesterday in retaliation the tiny poverty-stricken gaza strip has been shattered with blistering israeli. Airstrikes israel says it's targeting militants cisco prime minister benjamin. Netanyahu says his country's enemies a learning lesson but susie ish content is just seven years old. She was pulled from the rubble often. Israeli strike losing her mother and four siblings. Some of the more than sixty children killed by these rarely bombardment according to palestinian officials. Benjamin netanyahu's desire to deflect from the fact that he is facing criminal corruption charges and the fact that he's failed to form a new government has not only led to dozens of children. Palestinian children dying but also twelve israelis dying. Those are people who didn't deserve to die. Those are people who certainly shouldn't have been put in harm's way as a result of netanyahu's aggression toward palestinians in gaza. Because what he's doing is yes absolutely sacrificing the lives of israelis. But he's also you know while pretending as if they have no interest in harming palestinian civilians he's harming countless palestinian civilians. Not just in this. Recent flare up in violence but in previous conflicts that we've covered as well so as the fighting continued for tenth day officials in gaza said two hundred twenty seven people had been killed by the intense israeli airstrikes including sixty four children. That number is likely higher at this point or by the time you watch this video and thirty six women in israel twelve people have been killed by the ongoing barrage of rocket fires from hamas including two children. But hamas wants a ceasefire. They have called for a ceasefire not once but twice. And netanyahu has said no no. We're not interested. Those twelve israelis who died in israel. Don't care don't care because all of this violence deflecting. From the fact that i'm a failure and nothing more than a pathetic right wing authoritarian who can't even form a government. Let me give you more then. Yahoo also thanked the united states for their support. For for joe biden support in repeatedly saying that israel has the right to defend itself even though israel under the leadership of benjamin netanyahu decided to a month ago aggressively attacking palestinians during the month of ramadan by rating. The al aqsa mosque by victim palestinians from the homes that they've lived in for decades but it has not called for an immediate. Ceasefire hasn't even called for a ceasefire publicly. He is calling for ceasefires allegedly in private phone calls with netanyahu. then get the of the phone calls. And here's what. Cbs is reporting. President biden told netanyahu in a phone call on wednesday morning that he expected a significant deescalation today on the pass on the path to a ceasefire according to a description of the call from the white house. So he's you know he wants to make sure that nine thousand at least considering getting to a path toward a ceasefire but in the meantime civilians are needlessly dying as a result okay. Great progressive democrats are calling for a resolution to block weapons sales to israel because as this ongoing conflict Leads to civilian deaths. The biden administration decided that they would approve seven hundred thirty five million dollars in weapons sales to the israeli government. And so now there's a proposal. The proposed legislation propose legislation. I should say that supported by representatives mark pokemon rashida corey bush. Betty mccollum also. I wanna presley. Ilhan omar corporate democrats were left out of that list so that should be noted as well but the failure of the biden administration to really show its leadership in doing the right thing here is embarrassing and honestly no better than what we got from the trump administration. What's right is right. what's wrong is wrong. And what's happening to the civilians in the gaza strip right now and also by the way to palestinian protesters in the west bank is disgusting. What we saw in the destruction of a building that international journalists operated out of in gaza was disgusting what we saw with a palestinian man losing four of his children and his wife in one israeli airstrike disgusting what we saw with the israeli forces bombing a bookstore in the gaza strip also disgusting. It shouldn't be difficult to say. These things shouldn't be difficult for. The leader of the united states is so called leader of the free world to call for an immediate. Ceasefire does not a leader. He can't be a leader on. This is going to go ahead and be affect president. Who's gonna go along with the same talking points in the same narrative that we've gotten from previous. Us presidents israel has the right to defend itself because israel buzzer weapons us taxpayers fund military aid to israel a country that somehow can provide universal healthcare to its people while we can't and then that transfer of wealth goes to defense contractors and weapons manufacturers in the united states. They spend that money on buying our weapons but biden wouldn't tell you that government officials wouldn't tell you that who cares if lives are being lost. Who cares if this conflict continues. People are making money off of it. That's all that matters. We gotta take a break. We'll be right back support for this. Podcast comes from invent together. According to studies less than thirteen percent of all inventors who hold a us patent are women black and hispanic college graduates patent at half the rate of their white counterparts. But we can fix that by increasing participation in innovation and patenting underrepresented groups. It would quadruple. 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But i feel like this one hour is when i can just kind of like unleash. Get it out of my system and then enjoy myself for the rest week. All right we gotta get back to the show. Thank you so much for watching. Make sure you likens share the stream and we'll see you in just a few seconds for the rest of the stories keep south excited for gender role for in the second hour. Because i am. I'm super excited. In fact you guys don't see him. But john is in the room. He's on the desk next to me or is it on the desk near the desk sitting at the desk but anyway he's it's going to be great. I'm really looking forward to the second hour for now though. Unfortunately we have to continue covering what's happening in gaza and israel And there was an interaction between a progressive democrat. Joe biden yesterday that you should all know about so. Let's do it. During a trip to michigan on tuesday representative rashida to leave the first palestinian american to serve in congress actually confronted president joe biden to do more to protect palestinian civilians in gaza. Now the new york times reported on this and there was a wonderful photo to go along with it. let's take a look representative for shooter to leave democrat of michigan confronted president biden on tuesday over his support for israel urging him to do more to protect palestinian lives and human rights. As you all probably already know but just in case all remind remind you What we've gotten from biden publicly about the violence in the gaza strip been this talking point about how israel has a right to defend itself. Obviously that talking point leaves out a lot of important context as to how this began in the first place and just how unequal both sides really are. This is an asymmetrical situation where you have one side The israeli side that is of course well-funded. It has a sophisticated military. It has sophisticated defense capabilities with the iron dome and then when it comes to the gaza strip and the palestinians. They don't have that they just don't have that and we need to be real about it and so we're she did to leave. You know is justified in her disappointment in the biden administration and his unwillingness to call for an immediate ceasefire publicly Now it's also questionable whether to leave made any type impression on biden because the guy can't even remember her name. let's watch. I'll tell you what i want to say to you that i admire. You're in luck. I admire your passion and your concern for so many other people and my from my heart. I pray that your grandmom on family are well. I promise today are in the west bank fighter. And god thank you know. I don't wanna. I don't wanna be too tough on biden. Make sure you know the person's name you know especially when it comes to something as serious as what she had. Confronted you about But the white house. Deputy deputy press secretary told the press when they were on air force. One that quote. Our focus has not changed. We're working toward a de-escalation to a sustainable com. Our approach is to make sure that we do this quietly intensively in a diplomatic way by didn't want to be on a path to a ceasefire that is when he's calling for that statement is unacceptable. A path to a ceasefire is not good enough. It's clearly not good enough and the fact. That biden has this hesitation pretty significant hesitation as this Violence continues for the tenth. Day has significant consequences. Dozens of children are dead. There are dozens of women who are also dead. We're talking about innocent civilians whose homes have been destroyed and whose lives have been ended as a result of what we're seeing right now in these airstrikes in the gaza strip these israeli airstrikes into gaza strip. So this like we'd like to you know we'd like to be on a path to a ceasefire. No we need a cease fire. Now it's not that difficult to do that. It's not difficult to call for that. And it's certainly not difficult to maybe put a pause to the more than seven hundred million dollars in weapons sales to the israeli government as their brutalizing palestinian civilians in the gaza strip. So that statement from deputy press secretary is just not good enough now. Meanwhile biden has approved that sale for weapons. I do want to give you the exact figure as the washington. Post reported power up by administration approved seven hundred thirty five million dollar weapons sale to israel raising red flags for some house. Democrats progressive democrats are attempting to block that sale of weaponry. It's unlikely that that will actually happen. But it is important to have members of congress actually stand up to a narrative that i think the american people have been sold for far too long that you know the real victims here happened to be the israeli government. The aggressors or the palestinians such as not the case here and i think that hearts and minds are changing as we see the civilian death count in the gaza strip and as we see all this footage of people's homes being destroyed of a building for instance that international media was operating out of get bombed over the weekend. Then the old propaganda isn't working and so the question is is the biden administration. That's now being confronted by progressive democrats in congress to change. Its mind and maybe not want to be on the path you know maybe not on the path of a ceasefire but actually call for an immediate ceasefire. We'll see now rashida to leave. Did give an incredible speech on the house floor just last week. That shows you just how personal the situation is for her and what she says here is correct. So let's watch palestinians aren't going anywhere no matter how much money you send to. Israel's apartheid government we are goods are to make good on our promises to support equal human rights for all. It is our duty to end. The apartheid system that for decades has subjected palestinians to inhumane treatment and racism reducing palestinians to live in utter fear and terror of losing a child beam indefinitely detained or killed because of who they are and the equal rights and protections they have under israeli law. It must end one of israel's most prominent human rights organizations but seldom has declared israel an apartheid state human rights watch recently recognized it to this is what palestinians living under. Israel's oppression have been telling us for decades there has been absolutely no recognition a palestinian humanity if our own state department can't even bring at celtic knowledge. The killing palestinian children is wrong. I will say it for the millions of americans who stand with me against the killing of innocent children no matter their ethnicity or faith. I weep for all the lives lost under the unbearable status every single one. No matter their faith their background and while the death count is a toll is is much higher among the palestinian civilians. I have no doubt that. There are israeli civilians in tel aviv. Who are fearful for their lives as well. The issue is that this violence doesn't need to occur in the first place. The aggression started with netanyahu who decided to raid the al aqsa mosque who decided to to vic palestinians from the homes that they've lived in for decades shake shaw so for anyone who has any concern for human life on both sides a call for an immediate ceasefire is incredibly important and mandatory. And we're just not getting that. From joe biden. I also want to commend The daily which is the podcast for the new york times. Because just this morning. They released an episode where they spoke to a twenty two year old palestinian woman. And i want to share a portion of that podcast with you because these are the types of stories that previously i feel americans didn't hear from But these are stories that are because it gives you a sense of what this terror is really like. let's watch. When was the last time you heard or felt of a bombing just a couple of hours ago. Leaky entire house shook. You have everyone in the house running to the center of the house to the living room. Making sure we're all there and we're old dead silent and anticipating something more. You know you win. There's one calming another comes after it so likely to live through this constant fear all day. Can you explain that. Why do you all run to the living room. Why do you all huddled together. In our house he living room is kind of the safest to an and if the house is bomb. We're all in one place you know. People in gaza have thing they always say like if we don't want to die together i don't know if you read viral tweet one of my friends actually. Her name is amanda. She had what she said was that today. I put my children to sleep in my bedroom. So that if we die we all die together in. No one lives to warn the death of another one like recall seen family in gaza. Does this imagine living under those conditions. And then being told by the united states government that israel has the right to defend itself as an american it embarrasses. Me and i feel a great deal of shame as a result of what biden and anthony. Lincoln's secretary of state have said incessantly in response to the violence directed toward palestinian civilians. These stories are important because this is the kind of terror that we finance. This is the kind of terror that the us government supports and it supports it in the way that they respond to it rhetorically and it supports it in the form of weapons sales to the tune. Recently of seven hundred thirty five million dollars. We gotta take a break When we come back we're going to switch gears a little bit. Move off of the This story and talk a little bit about donald trump facing a criminal investigation which is fun. We'll see you in a few minutes. Doing mickey see from our members section writes in and says. How proud are we of our president today. It's not bad enough. That the press corps that usually shouts out there questions actually quietly politely asked. May i ask you a question about israel biden joked about it. He laughed people being murdered especially children and he joked i haven't seen this video Then he later forgot rashida to leaps. Name i'm going to read a few super chat questions. Starting with peter hamby who says With the inflated budget in military funds it makes me wonder how much of the budget pays for the mainstream media to fuel. The wars in which there are no winners. Yeah i mean yeah nobody. I don't think the media gets paid by the us government but We do know that there are journalists. Who have suffered consequences for wanting to hold the israeli government accountable for their actions So there's there's a history of that whom berto says when the news is really rough. Do you have any tips on how to decompress. Relax marijuana i'm not. I'm not encouraging you to do drugs. But i'm just telling you what i do just keeping it real but also no let me also give you a not that. I think marijuana is like super unhealthy. I mean it has its downside. So i don't wanna like the completely pretend like that doesn't exist but i like to go on long walks. I go on super long walks. And i make sure to focus on flowers. That sounds maybe a little cheesy to some of you. But i love flowers. I love nature and when you just kind of like focus on how beautiful roses for instance and only that. It's like a form of meditation right. Like it kind of reminds you that with all the ugliness that's going on there's still a lot of beauty in the world and also guys like they're beautiful people in the world to right benjamin netanyahu and the israeli government. This right wing. Israeli government is not representative of jewish. People is not representative of all israelis is not representative of of humankind. And it took me a long time to accept that bad. People are not a reflection of humans in general but they're wonderful people in the world and it's hard to focus on that sometimes but they exist. It's just that they don't get the kind of coverage that the bad guys do because we need to know who the bad guys are we to root it right but good people exist and that includes israelis that include please. No aggression toward. There's like an increase in anti-semitism. I mean that's really started under the trump administration but it's it's exploded lately as a result of what we're seeing with Benjamin netanyahu's rightwing government. Don't fall into that trap and don't don't turn into what we're speaking out against on the show so just wanted to put that out there. All right we gotta get back to the show. Welcome back to the show and a and with you Just wanted to encourage you guys to like share the stream again because that is one of the best ways to help support. Ty t. and get the message out there. We want some live viewers. We want more feedback. We want more comments. We want more super shots So definitely engaged with us as well and Will respond to some of your comments and questions during our social breaks for online viewers But yeah let's get to our next story again. Moving off of the israel story to talk a little bit about what's happening with the trump organization Little juicy juicy story here. The investigation into the trump organization has shifted from a civil case to a criminal one now. The civil component is ongoing but apparently this investigation has found potential criminal wrongdoing by the trump organization and I don't know stop means that trump is actually going to finally face some consequences for the first time in his life. We'll see but let me give you the details on what's happening. So the new york attorney general. The should james is joining the manhattan district attorney's office in a criminal investigation of the trump organization in fact a spokesperson for letitia. James says we have informed the trump organization that our investigation into the organization is no longer purely civil in nature. We're now actively investigating the trump organization in a criminal capacity along with the manhattan. Da now this investigation is looking into something that i have been wondering about ever since i heard michael coen's testimony and he did testify under oath. There were allegations that donald trump and the trump organization inflated assets in order to legally obtain loans and then deflated assets in order to illegally dodge taxes and so it appears that this is what investigation is really about. Donald trump denies that he says. There's there's nothing more corrupt than an investigation. That is in desperate search of a crime. But make no mistake. That is exactly what's happening here. But i do want to remind you all of what his former personal lawyer. Michael cohen said under oath as representative. Cossio cortes was questioning him. Let's watch to your knowledge to the president ever provide inflated assets to an insurance company. Who else knows that. The president at this ellen. Weisselberg ron liebman and matthew maury and where would the committee find more information on this. Do you think we need to review his financial statements and his tax returns in order to compare them. And you'd find it at the trump org mr cohen. I wanna ask you about your assertion that the president may have improperly devalued his assets to avoid paying taxes according to an august twenty four august twenty two thousand sixteen report by the washington post while the president claimed in financial disclosure forms that trump national golf club in jupiter florida was worth more than fifty million. He had reported otherwise to local tax authorities. That the course was worth quote. No more than five million. Mr cohen into you know whether this specific report is accurate. It's identical to what he did at trump national golf club at briar cliff. Manner to your knowledge was the president interested in reducing his local real estate bells tax bills. And how did he do that. What you do is you deflate. The value of the asset and then you put in a request to the tax department For a deduction. I've been wondering about that testimony ever since michael cohen gave it because if any of us were committing tax fraud if any of us were committing fraud in order to obtain loans that we had no business obtaining we would face some serious criminal charges but people in positions of power. Get away with so much and so it does feel good to know that there are people looking into this investigating this to ensure that appropriate measures are taking taken an appropriate consequences or pay. Now i don't know if donald trump will ever really face the consequences of this the same way an average american would but what i do know is that he's gotten away with quite a bit and it's about time that his scams get called out and he has to do more than just pay some sort of settlement. I mean this guy has been a fraudster. His entire life just before he was inaugurated he had to pay a twenty two million dollar settlement to students. He defrauded with trump university. This is this is a person who was handed a tremendous amount of wealth by his father. Four hundred thirteen million dollars then proceeded to go bankrupt six times and had to do all these fraudulent scams in order to make money. I mean during his presidency. He used the office of the president to enrich himself and money toward his personal business personal businesses he would insist on holding meetings with international leaders in trump hotels. This is what he does so it does feel nice to know that there could potentially be consequences. But i'm not about to jank uber. You i'm not gonna say tick tick tick tick because i better like. I just know that we live under this system. That might even investigate someone of wrongdoing. Someone like trump's someone who's you know powerful who's been in a position of power and even if there's undeniable evidence of wrongdoing. They'll get a slap on the wrist. I mean we certainly saw that. In the aftermath of the two thousand eight economic collapse after wall street executives were committing fraud committed fraud by lying about the actual value of shares the actual health of the very companies that they were leading and so relevant relevant part of that story. And did we see corporate. Ceos and we see wall street executives face the consequences of that now manhattan district attorney cy offices examining millions of pages of documents that include trump tax returns. Investigators have deposed multiple trump organization officials including eric trump. The former president son and chief financial officer allen weisselberg so weisselberg is being questioned also. Several trump organization properties financial dealings are being scrutinized as part of the investigation including seven springs estate in westchester county. New york forty wall street a building in lower manhattan trump international hotel and tower chicago and trump national golf club in los angeles. One of the things. I'm curious about is where that. Irs audit is because remember. The irs is currently auditing donald trump. They had to put a pause on that audit while he was serving as president but one of the reasons why he refused to accept the fact that he lost the election in two thousand twenty was because as soon as he's out of office that means that the audit continues that means that these criminal probes continue and he certainly doesn't want to deal with any of that but he's got to and so we'll see where that irs investigation will lead to but based on who trump has revealed himself to be. I would not be surprised that His efforts to dodge taxes are significant. And one other thing guys. I mean it is amazing right because the way that the tax code is written overwhelmingly benefits the rich and the powerful they get to take advantage of all these loopholes all these deductions. That's how you get companies like amazon essentially paying nothing in federal taxes. They get lower tax rates vega all these deductions and loopholes and that wasn't enough for trump. That wasn't enough. Allegedly that wasn't enough for trump organization. They had to go allegedly to fraudulent methods in order to dodge more taxes. No one wanted to loan anything trump. Because he had gone bankrupt six times so according to these allegations he had to inflate his assets in order to obtain those loans and he thought yeah all inflate my assets here to obtain the loans but deflate my assets when it comes to the irs. So i can save money on taxes. No one will ever know. Figure it out. But then you got big michael. Cohen michael cohen. He's afraid you know he's about to face charges of his own and he decides under oath dominant. Tell people the truth what donald trump is doing. And so we'll see how that ends out ends up but it would be nice right. If people who were rich people who are powerful were treated the same as the rest of us. We actually lived in a country that valued law and order and didn't put people like donald trump above the law and he certainly has enjoyed the privilege of life above the law. Hopefully that trend changes at least with trump all right. Let's move to my favorite story of the day. Katie porter. she did it again. Representative katie porter. Did it again with her whiteboard on full display. She questioned the ceo of a pharmaceutical company. Known as abdi amid allegations that the company had inflated its drug prices now there are two different drugs. That are in question here. I'll give you the details in just a minute. But during this house oversight and reform committee hearing she grilled richard gonzales. The ceo of abbvie on why the company has actually invested far less on research and development and far more on enriching himself than other executives at the company. Watch mr gonzalez. How much did you spend to be spent on litigation and settlements from twenty thirteen to two thousand eighteen. That number of him gabby give it to you. One point six billion dollars two point. Four five billion on rnd one point. Six billion in litigation and settlements. What about marketing and advertising. How much does that be spend on that marketing advertising. We spend about four billion dollars a year. Four point seven one billion. How about executive compensation twenty thirteen to twenty eighteen thirteen twenty eighteen. It's probably average about sixteen billion dollars a year. Trade three hundred and thirty four on for size now. How much did. Iv spent on stock buybacks and shareholders. Stark stock buybacks and dividends to enrich your shareholders from twenty thirteen to two thousand eighteen. Stock buybacks if you actually look just pure stopped by vaccine would be about thirteen billion dollars stock. Buybacks dividends is the question sir dividends and it had to come back with a number of that over that period of fifty billion dollars It's just so delicious. it's so delicious. That i want more. I want a second helping. Please give me a second helping guys. So mr gonzalez. You're spending all this money to make sure you make money. Rather than spending money to invest in develop drugs and help patients with the affordable life saving drugs you blind patients when you charge them twice as much for an unimproved drug and then you lied. To policymakers when you tell us that are indeed justifies those price increases the big pharma. Tale is one of groundbreaking or indeed that justifies astronomical prices. But the former reality is that you spend most of your company's money making money for and your shareholders and the fact the turnout honest about this with patients. With policymakers that you're feeding us lies that we must pay astronomical prices to get innovative treatments is false. The american people the patients deserve so much better. We're so used to members of congress being completely disconnected from the very people that they that they represent that moments. Like this stand out because this is what members of congress should be like. They should be prepared. They should be willing to represent their constituents. I mean this is the bare minimum. But more importantly they should be willing to speak truth to power and we live in. This system with legalized bribery. That overwhelmingly influences lawmakers to work against the best interests of their constituents so to see katie porter. Oh it's just it's the best feeling to see. Lawmakers represent the people as as opposed to corporations and private industry it. It's fantastic now to give you a little more context. But before i do let me also note that. This is not just indicative of the business practices with pharmaceutical companies. You see this with private industry. Throughout for instance when donald trump successfully passed his twenty seventeen tax cuts for the rich. The whole story around that the story that was sold to the american people was well. We need to do this. We need to lower the corporate tax rate from thirty five percent to twenty one percent because we need to create jobs these companies these corporations are going to use the tax windfall to create more jobs and pay higher wages. That's what they do folks except they didn't do that. They took money. They took the savings and they enrich themselves and their shareholders corporate stock buybacks record corporate stock buybacks in the first quarter after those tax cuts for the rich were passed now to give you some more context into this line of questioning That reporter had the oversight and reform committee during tuesday's hearing announced a call from house democrats for the federal trade commission to investigate the for its pricing of humira. The best selling drug in the united states and internationally which treats room with Rheumatoid arthritis and other inflammatory diseases now just to give you a sense of how much money abbvie has made from humira. It generated three point nine billion dollars in the united states alone during the first quarter of this year a seven percent increase and the way that they were able to do that was to just do they improve the trunk of course not but drug is unchanged. It's the same. They just increase the price for the first time. No second time no for the twenty seventh time. They raise the price of that drug twenty seven times even though they didn't do anything to improve it because they just wanted more money. That's it that's all it is but that's not the only drug. I mentioned that there were two drugs. You is one of them. Imbruglia ika is the second one and that's a blood cancer medication which they raise the price nine times now. Humira a drug used to treat rheumatoid arthritis other autoimmune diseases and gastrointestinal Gastrointestinal conditions such as krones was released in two thousand and three when the company was abbot laboratories. Don't forget that name. Abbott laboratories is important and usually these shady companies love to rebrand themselves. Abbvie has since raised the cost twenty seven times and by more than four hundred seventy percent with an annual supply now costing more than seventy seven thousand dollars. Imagine that if you need this drug to improve your quality of life it'll cost you seventy seven thousand dollars. Why i mean. We know other countries aren't paying that kind of money. Also meanwhile abbvie in conjunction with janssen. Biotech has increased the price of improve. Ika a drug used to treat a mantle cell lymphoma and other cancers by eighty two percent since it launched in two thousand thirteen that year for a patient taking three pills per day. The drug was priced at ninety. Nine thousand seven hundred seventy six annually. Today it's priced at one hundred eighty one thousand five hundred twenty nine dollars for patients taking four pills each day. It costs two hundred forty two thousand thirty nine dollars. Who can afford that. I mean it's just it's out of control and remember us. Us taxpayers spend quite a bit of money on the research and development. for instance. remember. I want you to remember abbott laboratories because that's relevant to the story well in twenty seventeen. The national institutes of health accepted or counted. I should say accounted for the lion's share of federal spending in medical and health research in two thousand seventeen and that's thirty two point. Four billion dollars or eighty two point one percent national institute of health. Us taxpayers were funding the research and development. If we're doing it why would they right. They're gonna take the money that they have and they're just gonna are. They gonna invest in research and development. Maybe a little bit. But they love dividends. They love corporate stock buybacks. That's what they're going to focus on in the meantime they're going to go ahead and gouge us. Even though we helped fund their research development. But what about what about abbott laboratories specifically right we know what the national institutes of health national institutes of health spend on pharmaceutical research and development overall in a given year. But how much has abbot laboratories taken in taxpayer funded research and development. I have some specific figures for you some early research on. That's one of the that they produce one of the first pro ts. Inhibitors marketed in nineteen ninety-six was funded by the nih grants to abbott laboratories. The company says the grand total three point four seven million dollars and that that it had spent more than three hundred million to conduct clinical trials and bring the drug to market abbott based in north chicago raised the price of daily dose of that drug by the way to eight dollars and fifty seven cents from one dollar and seventy five cents in december of two thousand three setting off a firestorm of protests from doctors and aids activists and prompting calls from several lawmakers for the nih to examine the case so the nih is like yo we spent some money on the research and development of this very drug and now you guys are price-gouging american citizens. What's up with that. We got we got to look into it and guess what they did. Look into it so you would think that maybe the government would do the right thing and you know. Try to check them as their price. Gouging us. but that's not what happened. The federal government decided against forcing drugmaker abbot laboratories to roll back a five fold price increase on the aids drug developed in part with tax. Payer money works folks. It's how it works. Corruption unfettered capitalism turning healthcare into something that is not a human rights in america. A privilege in america commodified privilege in america. That's what our healthcare industry really is when it comes to the pharmaceutical companies when it comes to actual health insurance all of it is meant to gouge us provide us with crappier care and coverage compared to other countries of course in european countries canadian countries. And we are incredibly priced gouged. Even though we help fund the research development of these drugs so i think katie puerto for that line of questioning because it opened up an opportunity to talk about that angle as well. But i would love to see members of congress bring up the fact that we are funding the research and development of the very drugs that were later price gouged on. We got to take a break. When i come back johnny it will be joining me to talk about. Donald trump still giving orders to republicans. And they're listening. We'll be right back.

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Plan of a Tax

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Plan of a Tax

"Here typ were generally optimistic about the future. Yeah we know that might sound crazy but we really have good reasons thinking about it this way today. Wide majorities of americans agree with our progressive stances on issues ranging from healthcare and education to climate immigration and wages. We also the rising generation of young people who are overwhelmingly progressive in their political beliefs and policy objectives and they're increasingly flexing their muscle as activists and voters to demand change from our elected officials. You can support our work at dot com slash. Join drop it like. It's the housing market power power panel on the young turks. Jenkins john zarrella. No impresses with us has the reference to the housing market We we hope it doesn't drop and certainly not driving right now but as a story we might get to later. Not how you doing. Great great to almost be there with you again. We're getting there soon soon in person. All right me you know is author and investigative journalist Collusion how central bankers read the world is one of her books all the president's bankers and other book Honestly you should by all books. Because they're kind of. Jesus not a big deal though. So we're gonna rely on your financial expertise in a minute As well so everybody. I hope you enjoyed the earth day special that we had for you guys last night. Did john led the proceedings on. Apparently the crazy folks are shopped. It dot com continued said to continue their of twenty percent off on green related items. Anything green and the money is actually green. So that's why he gets. Take twenty percent of that office as well. are anyways. That's i don't know why. I just told you that. That was random all right. Let's get a news. We'll do that. No word yet on whether the new green dragon. Tr shirt is included in the sale. Gonna shop you can find out. Maybe i literally don't know. But i was wearing a yesterday. Oh nice i like it. Pretty good design me to anyway. Shop georgia dot com okay. what we launched on the news. It seemed to only take a few minutes after it was sort of leak. The joe biden is going to be attempting to realize tax rates on a certain classification of investment income. That the rich it and started a freak out which means it's time once again for when richmond. Cry okay so let me give you some of the basic details and understand that you know. We're still waiting for the full plan and everything but Biden is going to be seeking new taxes on the rich including a near doubling of the capital gains tax for people earning more than one million dollars a year to pay for the next phase in his four trillion dollar plan to reshape the american economy. He will also propose raising its marginal income tax rate to thirty nine point. Six percent from thirty seven percent. Dear god the level it was cut to by president. Donald trump's tax overhaul back in two thousand seventeen We are expecting that is going to be the full proposal gonna come out next week. As part of his american families plan which would provide for paid family leave and free community college among other priorities. The white house has insisted the plan will not raise taxes on middle or low income americans which is reassuring to them. But we're concerned about the over emotional rich so let's go to some of the initial reactions That were had on. The larry kudlow show jimmy area. That capital gains came out. I wasn quick enough. I'm telling you. I had to read that headline about four times before i actually believed it. Felt like i was in some sort of weird daydream. It is there is absolutely no coaching. That can be made by anybody. In defensive doubling doubling more than doubling the capital gains tax. It's just as they know full. Well that not only will it not gain any more tax receipts from it. They've that side of the aisle has admitted that several different times it is such an economic negative. And i think in the long term you can actually even make a neutral argument for the stock market in the long term are more reluctant to sell to take it in the near term. They've probably some will want to sell to take advantage of the current capital gains and arguing with people. Some people were very smart. Economists saying oh this will never pass. I don't care it's been out there by the president united states a completely absolutely asinine tax. It just it made me sad more than angry since day. One on this show which is a wonderful day one. I have warned that they were going to double the capital. Gay sex i said it. Many times has kudlow have a show. That was terrible. It was like five seconds at checkout but anyway the guy was freaking out. And why wouldn't he the that channel that show largely exists so that they can say that every tax cut is great. And it's going to be great in every way no matter how many cycles of this we go through and any possible even just at this point leaked a proposal to raise taxes is bad and in fact it will just be bad for the rich but will actually result in less money being brought into the government and a bunch of other things that they never have to actually demonstrate. They can just say so. They can hold onto as much money as possible. Yeah i just wanna to get one piece of context. Before i kick it over to the expert no me on this. So currently the capital gains taxes at twenty percent this but the top income tax bracket is thirty seven percent currently as john reid or gay. So if you're wondering what's the difference right and income taxes. Something get on your salary for work that you have done so a doctor or a lawyer or an accountant might be at the thirty seven percent rate if they're earning about five hundred eighteen thousand dollars but if they're earning a little over two hundred thousand there's a thirty five percent rate or k so that that's actually a decent number of people but capital gains is money you make on your investments and it could be a company it could be a stock etc so the usually the people who pay the capital gains tax or the people that are the richest people in the country because they have assets and they make money from their assets rather than employment so they're number for some reason is lower it's at twenty percent instead of thirty five or thirty seven so a doctor who works around around the clock has to pay thirty five or maybe thirty seven but a finance guy hidden buttons. I'm over simplifying. But yes like making money on. His assets has to pay only twenty percent capital gains tax. Why that makes no sense other than the fact that our government is totally bought off by by the wealthy so now by saint louis move it to forty three percent. That's the starting point and that's good. I'm glad that starting point is very aggressive. And i'll give him credit for that. But i just want you to understand why these guys are crying and their bs. Excuse of if you won't lower my taxes. I'll never do investment. Well if you never do investments never make money so okay. Nope just set a spite. Yeah spite not going to do it anymore. Color me a little skeptical on that. But but no me. What's your thoughts on the claims that you heard on that program first of all what was interesting about that program. Which was yesterday is that it was accompanied by graphics of the market. Going down on the news that capital gains taxes would go up and like to your point. Would that would mean if everybody who had a lot of money in the market left the market. Because they're all upset and crying on the sidelines by paying additional tax on whatever they could make on the up side of their investments It might continue to go down the the the the funny thing. Is that if you actually put up. Today's market Instead of the graph graphic they had yesterday when what's his name on the show was talking about it. Being an asinine proposal he would see that the market is actually gone back up. So i just think that it you know. This is just one indication he was he was a little overreactive. But but let's take a kind of at what this tax or even if it's like an opening higher point of a capital gains tax that could ultimately Get passed through congress because a lot of democrats also own a lot of stocks and probably had wealth more than a million dollars as well and there could be some pushback. But here's the thing. Only three percent of the country actually makes a million dollars or more per year. So it's it's really a teeny teeny bit but but the marginal impact could be a lot and it's not like this. Money is simply going into the easter. The idea of the proposal is that it's taken from a place where the appreciation is mostly related to the stock market which is supposed to but isn't representative of how companies are doing. And if they're doing while the stock market supposedly goes up. What we've seen is that the stock market is way out paced or the actual real economy is doing so with this tax actually does re proportions effectively investment money into places like sustainable energy and into places like infrastructure and roads and hospitals and schools and things that lots of people can use or do us on a regular basis. So the idea. This capital gains tax is to re appropriate where capital goes into the overall. Connie of which these people actually participate So so in terms of that. It's really not that big a deal again. It's on marginal as you pointed out well. Only ten percent of this country owns about eighty five percent of the stock market as you get into that one or that three percent level. It's even less what that means. Is that most people in this country. Don't own any portion of the stock market or if they do through smaller channels like pension funds or 401k. Plans or other forms of retirement plans the excess that they could get from. That amount is very small. Compared to their overall of that is where we have such great inequality if you can reduce the inequality and one way to do that is on the excess money that goes into the stock market that also has the execs subsidies of the federal reserve and other types of money behind it. Well then you can actually have a stronger economy. That's stronger economy. And more equal for more people in it because more money is involved in creating better infrastructure and potentially better companies and better funding for companies that actually are doing things like sustainable energy or green products or technology that helps people In terms of health care or building five g into rural network into rural areas. Or whatever it might be that actually makes everything better so they don't have to cry They can be okay and they can just sort of realized that even the overall market shook it off so to me. There's a couple of things you guys so number one on this whole idea. That said we're gonna take our ball and go home. We're not gonna invest anymore. I always remember warren buffett quote about that job paraphrase here where he said basically if you're an investor who says because taxes you're not going to make investments. You're not really an investor okay. Maybe you have a hobby in no real investor. Says i don't want to make money. And so it's it's absurd. It's never been true. It's just a talking point us because the mainstream media generally doesn't know anything so they right and is if a rich person says that they will write down as naga for a second Oh my god that nobody's going to invest anymore. It's absurd now. And he says this is so sad. But i want to ask about one other aspect of it at least know me which is where the federal government is going to make any more revenue out of this anyway. Okay wait a minute if you double the taxes you're crying because you think you'll be paying a lot more than why wouldn't the federal government make more money in revenue from the taxes. He seems to be implying. We'll all cheap and we'll all hide our money and it's cetera. Am i missing something. What the hell does he mean. Other than i hey. Irs please audit me. Because i will definitely cheap restaurant. Because i said something on. Tv that turned out to be wrong. The very next day Yeah it's it's just just just a kind that that idea and and it sort of came up when we were talking about a two percent potential wealth tax in general on estate taxes when when when elizabeth warren brought it up a couple years ago and so for the the idea is that investors do invest and the individuals that have gotten so much richer than they were before out of the appreciation of the stock market relative to the actual real economy in which they exist and in which people live. are not going to go away and not do that. They're not going to hide that money. Because the thing that this won't change and this is really the bottom line of of of of them being just sort of irrationally. Upset is that the market is still going to outperform the economy. What this does is take some of that performance and it basically re invested in the real economy through the capital gains tax and that is a good way to both reduce inequality and also give a little bit of a perk to the actual Foundational economy and into the companies. That actually happened to be part of the stock market if not the most major ones that don't tend to pay taxes anyway but at the sort of lower smaller medium to small business levels that have people that actually don't make a million dollars a year or a million dollars in appreciation on their shares but are still contributing to the overall economy since say one thing just because i want to make sure that everyone regardless of economic status reacts rationally to the news so first of all if you are Few make less than a million dollars a year. We'll probably all of you do. I would imagine most You need it. Forget about this it's going to affect you necessarily. It's possible the fox business in cnbc at some point acknowledged that the acknowledged that this is biden keeping a campaign promise That they make sure that their viewers that make less than a million dollars a year. Don't forget about this. I kind of doubt it though. Because i think they know who their real audiences but then also in terms of acting rationally when nobody was talking about how the stock market temporarily dipped like. It's a leak of a proposal. It's gonna be proposed in a week. Maybe the legislation will be here in two months. They'll debate it for a month if i told you. There's going to be a polar bear in the city in six months and you ran out. We'd laugh at you. That's not rational. Just pump your brakes. I'm scared of them to. It's not here now. So i don't know that just as a person who has only recently started doing any investment. They're freaking out literally everything that has literally nothing to do with their actual investments. Just makes the whole things seem like at least for a significant portion of them. It is just a big emotional casino game that they're playing. It's not based on anything real. I gotta see two things about that. One is warren buffett again. I'll go back to him because he's a relatively smart guy right. He made a lot of money. Investing and said look the only one trick to investing buy low sell high okay and i remember reading when i was really young. Faking a campy that simple and it turns out it is that simple and and the reason why only a couple of people like buffet have on spectacularly well in a lot of the normal financial investors on wall street don't do well is because they're human beings and they get driven by their emotions. Actually write the two largest drivers and people on wall street. Talk about this all the time. They were perfectly aware. Phenomenon are greed and fear. That's it and the heard moves. The heard constantly moves so that three hundred point dip panic. John is a billion percent. Right about the timing. So let's see because these are stocks that they hold right so they have to actually sell a stock so all my god. They're going to maybe do something in washington which is very unlikely a longtime from now hence. I'm selling my stock in nike. Wait what doesn't make any sense at all. Bud they're driven by fear. And if i was going to get my money on now greed and then they realize thirty minutes later. Oh yeah that was stupid. And then the herd goes back to buying and that's why they finish with a perfectly fine performance of that size at the day anyway but one more important thing about timing that know me was alluding to look at the capital. Gains tax is going to be imminently raised. Will some people sell assets. So they can get grandfathered in at the twenty percent rate before doubles. Of course they will. That's normal okay. But what talking song about is that. Once it passes you will then be incentivized to do long term. Investments as opposed to nonstop speculative trading because remember capital gains only applies when you sell that asset. So if you've got a high capital gains tax you're gonna wanna hold asset longer generally speaking and if you've got a really low one as we do today at least the speculation because you think there's not much penalty for selling because the corporate because the capital gains tax is so low and it's lower than what i would normally pay on income tax. So that's the game that they're playing here and that's why increase in capital gains tax actually has a lot of benefits not just raising money for the government which then you could use for childcare's as buying this adjusting and other important priorities but also it helps to squash some of the speculation that heats up economy and creates bubbles. Nomi have i described that relatively. Well that's very true. I mean the case in point was yesterday's was the interview that we just had on. Which is that if you're going to run out the door because of the stock market tax polar bears in their later. Then that's that's that's that's speculation and that guy Would have lost money probably Heady done that because any stocking would have sold yesterday actually went up today if he had more than twenty four hour. Let's say a day and a half a outlook but the the more you you're you're holding the more actually stock market sort of investors as opposed to marry her to speculators more day. Traders actually are selecting companies that have some longevity in are doing things at like are economically productive and that could be actually better for the economy and also potentially for the stock market so in the idea of capital gains tax on on that upper level. again is is actually positive for the stock market and nobody thinks their stock is going to go up by an additional say more than twenty five percent if there's an additional twenty percent yo net on your taxes is going to sell because of the tax if they are actually investing and have done their homework on that particular thing and the final thing i'll say is that a lot of places that sort of a mass people's Investments so that the smaller participation rates that people have that aren't millionaires but they have some in their in their retirement funds or the four one case or their pension funds or something like that Though that sort of money as there and those sorts of individuals can potentially benefit from less speculation in the market more sort of long-term holds appeal. And that's positive for for people in that retirement spectrum or that 401k or pension spectrum. So i mean there's lots of ways to look at this and freaking out because we're actually going to raise taxes to reduce some of the the wealth inequality gap and redistributed to other elements of the economy is just a little precious. Well sorry continue assignments. I apologize but don't worry soon. We're going to have you back in the studio. It's going to be back to east of anyway. We're gonna take a first break though when we come back. Ted cruz opens his mouth. And we're forced to respond after this if you join. Typ's efforts to bring positive change in the world with that. Make your hero again. Let's give it a try at t dot com slash joy. Accept palm thursday. A back during the break here. I i gotta tell you guys look. The capital. gains tax increase is time stockpile some too strong coffee you look. I'm very sad about the capital gains tax. 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They're behaving like politicians and by the way just a few years ago. Republicans were in the same position. Two thousand seventeen all of us were here when a republican president a republican senate and a republican house. We didn't do this. We could've they love to say donald trump to paint him as some crazy. Autocrat you didn't see republicans. When had control of the senate try to rig the game you see us. Try to pack the court. There was nothing that would have prevented republicans from doing what they're doing. Other than respect for the rule of law other than basic decency other than recognizing that democracy matters. Okay so. I know that we're going to jump into his own hypocrisy and the republican accuracy and the supreme court. That's the core of the story. But let's just really fast note that he just talked about how they had nothing. But respect for the rule of law had just a heads up to. Your dude was impeached weiss. So just bear. Because he didn't have respect for the law also in terms of like he's like they just want to stay in power. We didn't do that. No donald trump very much tried to break the rules to stay in power. Remember all that stuff that happened right in the set where you're doing that when the the mob was there and all the the the smoke and the fire and all of that and then you actually tried to vote to overturn the election. You very much tried to break the rules to stay in power so as turned this bring portland just acknowledged that bit of this as well. Yeah and then in terms of rigging the supreme court in packing it or not packing it. I seem to remember that. They blocked a supreme court justice from even being heard for for about a year. That was merrick garland. And they call it the mcconnell rule and then when the mcconnell rule was hey a year before an election you cannot sit a supreme court justice then under trump. They confirmed the supreme court justice. Oh week before an election we. So that's why they trump was able to pack the court with conservatives. That's why we just covered a story yesterday. Another ruling right-wing ruling six to three because they packed the court by basically denying normal. Due process of four merrick garland to be heard under obama and then completely shredded their own rule in the most hypocritical. Way that you could possibly imagine and then get a little this. I want you to remember one. Other fact about The lying snake. That is ted cruz. Ted cruz is the one republican senator that said even if hillary clinton wins and the republicans. Hold the senate. We shouldn't see any supreme court justice until republican. that would seem to be rigging the courts. Okay but here is because he just. That's the thing you got you. And i can't understand about him. He has no shame at all. Not even one percent this. This was the guy who was never going to have anything to do with trump. And then to the point of the court right in the way of ruth bader ginsburg death He was one of the people that trump discuss putting up for her position So that was a kind of big turnaround and he also blocked some language that would basically honored her last wishes because he talked about them as being partisan As opposed to basically honoring this this woman who had been on the supreme court trailed so many play so many trails During her her time. In general. So i mean he. He doesn't the perspective that that he brings is just. I mean it's not it's not it's it's literally just a continuation of what's going on in his own universe. Yeah and look if he doesn't if he doesn't like the new democratic interpretation of the powers that they have being in power remember. There's a little thing called article to. it means. i can do anything i want. That's what his guy was saying for literally years. Did you have a problem with it. Then was these here. Again's i don't remember that. I do just have to take Slight issue with something you said. Little factcheck live on air. Ted cruz is offline. All the ways that you said but also senator richard. Burr said in the run up to election day. Two thousand sixteen if hillary clinton becomes president. I'm going to do everything. I can do to make sure that four years from now we're still going to have an opening on the supreme court so that's at least two that were okay with never putting anyone on the court and cruz said there's precedent for there. Only being eight brighter says that it's working just fine. They were never gonna put anyone on there like you said if it was eight years of hillary we will just have eight people in there forever so crews was not only in favor of packing the court. He was in favour of unpacking mcchord for different number of justice things. We'll why not thirteen by the all this mood You know that was just loose talk from buddha change and nobody really believe that and then as soon as biden got into office he said. Oh i'm going to set up a commission and pack it with republicans that commission is not going to say that they should increase. The number of it doesn't matter what it says and then on top of that. Nancy pelosi said we're not even bringing it up in the house. This is the most dead ish irrelevant issue ever and so look anna and i were talking about this other. New republicans have no plans none none none chair or saying it to right since they have no actual policies all. They have squirrels. They've got to distract you in one way or another and in this case they're saying dead squirrel okay and by the way we killed it earlier but it's okay whatever squirrel. My final thought on this is is. I'm a little tired of covering ted cruz. Verbal diarrhea. Right guy never tells the truth and i think that i. I don't know i'm stuck on this one. i were at a similar place that we were trump. When he was starting out on the one hand you have to knock down older lies on the other hand it's kind of it almost makes it real by even addressing it. Just assume going forward that we haven't covered ted cruz on that day that he definitely lied that day or considering a ban. Well going to be banned yeah. He lies every single time. Then he talks about politics and i think it was no me who just said like guy. Trump said. your wife was ugly and your dad was a murderer. And then you bowed your head and now you're talking about how great donald trump was as president is any single person in the country. Respect this vile creature anymore. Well with that. Why don't we move onto our next vile creature on the power panel yesterday on his show tucker carlson less on his show tucker. Carlson had a bit of a freakout implying that someone was looking into his past. Look at us. Jeff bezos had one of his means of mentally unbalanced. Middle man cold eric when pell polar dusty college yearbook and call around and see if we done anything naughty at the age of one thousand nine. That sounds like fun of us. Know if you hear any stories but before bezos drops any more of his billions on opposition research. You should know that. It will not affect any election outcome. This is a new show. It's not a political campaign. No one here is running for anything or plans to. I love the exaggeration. Not only did. I think he. Purposefully mispronounced guy's name. But like the idea that jeff bezos is putting billions and like how much can invest in investigation cost ten billion dollars. No i think they called some of your buddies. That was my thought. It's like really. Jeff bezos actually was picking on like you. That's what actually happened with his money. Or maybe there was just something else there. Maybe he wasn't or may wanna jeff as probably doing other stuff. I guess is the point but But yeah i mean. He basically whatever what happened when he was nineteen. And it's like you know a lot of did things when we were nineteen but it doesn't mean that we did sort of racist homophobic kind of things that ultimately colored who you know who he is throughout all of his career. Since i mean it wasn't like it was different. Exactly yeah that whole trope of like the but it was a long time ago in. They're supposed to be a change between those times. You've gotten worse but let's define how he's gotten worse because Basically as soon as that blow up happened on this show traumas tweeted. Perhaps this is the story that tucker carlson was trying to get ahead of his college yearbook listed himself as a member of the dan white society. Dan white was the man who murdered harvey milk. And so tucker carlson in the area of the yearbook. Where you're supposed to put that you're in debate or the jujitsu club. He decided to apparently make up this society. Because there's no evidence that actually exists. Nobody else to the school actually cited it on their yearbook. He just thought it would be fun to self identify as a dave. Oh tae of a guy who assassinated a gay politician. So that's one of the naughty things he got up to when he was nineteen year. Well i actually think that this story is really nuance really why. Why is it new us. Well let's let's break it down. So first of all context is everything. So matt gaetz and tucker. Carlson are both saying. They're investigating my pass because they don't like me speaking out on your behalf and these are has jobs now. I know both through covering the news and through personal experience that the media is not above doing a hatchet job sometimes and so in the case of matt gaetz that is clearly not true because that story did not arise out of someone. Poking around in the media rose from an fbi investigation. Okay so Matt gaetz is definitely wrong in this case with tucker carlson they are poking around that they are looking for something and so it doesn't mean that basil suspending billions of dollars doing it's one reporter or several reporters looking news past. Is it because tucker. Carlson is actually very relevant. Even if he's not running for office and actually is far more powerful than the overwhelming majority politicians country. Yes is he driving the nativist in my opinion racist that cetera dialogue in this country and an effecting the culture definitely so now then you can have a conversation okay. Well then when you look into their past what do you find an an and how they reacted to it. Now so now that brings me to see mccain if you remember. She's the person who became the editor in chief of teen vogue briefly and they found out things that she said wrong. And that were clearly offensive about asians and members of the community. When she was seventy now she had a apologize for those a long time ago and repeatedly and that was definitely not her position and she was not discovered when she found that we've got that job he'd already been through that multiple times. Okay well now. There are some on the left including because they got her fired from that job. That's real okay and so she technically resigned etc but there's no question that the judgmental people who looked at that are the people who led to her being ousted so in that situation in that context. That was a you. I'm hesitating using the word witch hunt but whatever other words are phrased that you'd like to insert in there okay. People decided they were going to target her. And in that case it was the left and they targeted her and it didn't matter about redemption. It didn't matter about what our current position is and it didn't matter that she said when she was seventy okay now in tucker situation he is not a like mad gates so what is the correct stance on him. Well it's they are digging and they are digging on purpose but when you go to dig and you find this out well this is easy if tucker says look it was a joke and it was a dumb joke is a guy who killed someone and of course i didn't mean it but i was nineteen and i think harvey milk is in american hero for pushing civil rights for Gay americans and if. There's no reason why everybody shouldn't be equal. Of course i believe in america and by the way he also said that. He was part of a jesse. Helms foundation jesse helms a deeply deeply racist senator from north carolina and homophobic anti homophobia homophobic as well. And i'm going to get to my context on that in a second to if he can type across came out and said well. of course. i didn't support the racism and homophobia of jesse helms. But i like his policy on taxes and wars or whatever he makes up then everybody will be free to judge on their own. Obviously right but my personal opinion would be okay. Well if he renounces it and he was cleared early if he renounced that earlier. Okay then it doesn't matter what he said at nineteen okay. It matters what he says today but tucker. Carlson is never outstanding act. Curb position is the same as the position. They found of him when he was nineteen. Well then the problem isn't what you said when you were nineteen. The problem is what you're saying now grown ass man on fox's channel speed and millions of americans now is kind of you know the point i was. I was trying to make that like he. He's been consistent in the types of things that he has said Whether they are racist or sexist or homophobic throughout A lot of the years most of the years of of his public career Publicly on in the media and not not perspective to public office and they're consistent with that association when he was nineteen. And you're right. You know people change people. Do things people go back. And they re thinking they're like well. That's not what i really mad. But here's what i think now and that's fine. This isn't that situation. This is a situation where it's merely indicative of the types of things that tucker. Carlson says the types of things. I just audience response to but that are also poisonous. In general to the idea of who we are as the better parts of of america. I just want to also throw out there. Maybe maybe it's doesn't even need to be said but in addition to there hasn't been an evolution on being more accepting of the lgbtq community. I mean that's clear if you if you listen to him Let's also bear in mind. It's not just that the target of the person i talked about was gay. It was an act of political violence. That joke can be interpreted as not thinking that political violence is the worst thing in the world. If you think it's joke worthy In your lock in your Yearbook what does he spent the last couple of months doing apologizing for the people who attacked the capital. Those who tried to hunt down. Mike pence nancy pelosi. He isn't a college in apologised right now for people who believe that violence is a legitimate tool In american politics so there doesn't seem to be any change except one bit of change from that yearbook entry. And that's only because jon stewart stopped wearing the spo ties. That's the only thing that's actually changed. In that time. He still stupid look on his face. It's a little bit less happy. I guess maybe the that actually does get who he is as a person. He doesn't smile as much anymore even when he does laugh. He comes off sounding like an insane man but other than that. He is just as bad if not worse because that yearbook entry at least might be an honest reflection of who he is and who he was was awful now. He's that awful guy raised by an awful father. We talked about that on the damage board this morning. Except he's also incredibly performative in his awfulness. He is trying to appeal to the worst people in the country by constantly reassuring them on a nightly basis that he hates all the same people they do that they are superior and all the ways they want to believe he is worse than he was in the yearbook. All right to say one last thing here and no me. I don't mean to throw you under the bus. Don't take it the wrong way but two out of the three of us at least have changed our minds in a lot ways. No me was the managing director mistakes. Now you should read her. Books or books are amazing. They're the best progressive takes on what you should actually do. What the financial industry right and they are all. The president's bankers collusion is so many more. Okay I used to be republican growing up. In fact the jesse helms thing is i don't know if the right word is triggered me but I remember when i was a young republican. The thing i would always say yes. But of course i am not part of the jesse helms strom thurmond wing of the republican party and not all republicans believe that. I'm a republican for other reasons. And and i would say that almost every time and part of me eventually ending being a republican. There's a lot of things the turns out everything. But anyway but ben who i worked with in miami. You say you're in the wrong room. And you're not getting the reason jesse helms. Trump sermon are in. The room is not because they got invited. Okay but but but i was super clear even back then as a republican that i was against jesse helms. That's him saying. I'm a republican because of jesse helps right and i've never heard tucker across from renounce that. And if he does okay. That's a different conversation but here. He's like basically seeming to say. You found out who actually and so and by the way dan white i look at me. I'm trying to give every benefit of the doubt. I was like the only other. Dan white i can think of is the former cowboy's quarterback so i bothered to look it up 'cause like ninety one it could be and i looked it up. No dan white retired in nineteen eighty eight. So it's also not a reference to the cowboy's quarterback. It's definitely a reference especially right next to jesse helms. He's definitely arrested christian thing. Yeah yeah a reference to the murderer who assassinated harvey milk. Who is an american hero. And so by the way i mean. That's like saying that. You're in the lee harvey oswald fan club. It's at cetera right. And so look they do go digging and and i will say one super last thing. When i had the controversy around me leaving the just democrats the reason that happening case your is an interesting story. We've talked about it to the members before in the post games and stuff but the right wing group found one person in the mainstream media who's massively right-wing and they then or a couple of people. Actually they then literally called every woman that has ever worked here and they found nothing and then he called people that in my background etc. 'cause they were trying to create a rift within the justice democrats and they saw well. This guy's been on air for all this time and he used to be republican since we're republicans. We know how awful people are. If they're republican. They went digging. They found no thing nothing right and so they had to go back to old blogs that i had deleted decades ago and renounce decades ago. And they're like. This isn't the biggest nothing burger we've ever seen but the mainstream media is generally dumb and they hate progress and so this will work and they were right and the mainstream media founded and they're like that's it okay this is a national scandal et cetera and then accomplish the mission that they were looking for part of the reason. That tucker carlson and matt gaetz are telling you that they're digging is one in tucker's case appears to be true and too because that's what the right wing media does that is right wing media one. Oh one they go and try to find anything anything they can to destroy political opponent and usually they're number one accomplices wittingly or unwittingly is the mainstream media especially if it's against the progressive than the mainstream media will eat it up if they try to do that. The biden calmly harris. The media. wouldn't play along. You try to do that. To bernie sanders or any progressive in the media is like oh great. What have you found. We will help you smear that person to the end of time so understand that it's a complicated phenomenon but that's the entire context and tucker in this particular case. Connecticut is simply by saying. Obviously i don't believe that anymore but there's a reason why he won't say that And why we wouldn't trust him if he did. Because clearly it's reflected in this show in an even bigger last hour or less in the hour but we have one more story so sick right after this off back. Act home fact safe back. I back during the break here. Rachel holt joined by hitting the join below on youtube. Does that make rachel a bit of an american hero. And thanks for being one of the young turks in helping us to bring change into the world all right now let me read some of the current members comments and these folks signed up through. Ty t. dot com slash. Join someone who likes bernie sanders roden. I definitely had some thoughts. That were off. When i was a wee lad in college for example i thought modern moderate republicans existed. So did i. that's why was one until i realized. Oh no. I'm the only one all right. I'll see you guys later chicago and i wrote in you know what tucker i never did any of that. When i was nineteen i was too busy. Serve my country in uniform and a war and of course tucker of course i did no such thing and etc we can go onto math magician. says i'm so glad you guys gave have this pathetic ted cruz press conference and basically lies for ten minutes. He's daughter got it right about him when she was six and pushed him away when he tried to kiss her on camera. You remember that eclectic with one of my favorite comments. According to the gop a black fourteen year olds are adults white. Nineteen year olds are just kids. I mean i was just a kid in the in the yearbook thing etc. Why are you holding me accountable for we murdered a fourteen year old black kid. I'll come on. I was basically grown up. okay We you should hold them accountable for what they did at fourteen by killing them right. That's republican logic. One one by the way. One of the most racist quotes. I've seen in a long time coming up later in the show from a republican senator. If that's a look forward to all right back to twitch for a second so here's the combination. Get to before smarter because the wrote in got my second shot yesterday no joke. I'm glad i took off. I was. I was far too out of it to watch yesterday. So i'm happy. I'm slightly more awake. So i can watch today. Always love getting my news from you guys. We'll spartacus we're happy that you're here and you make this possible. So does daisy dragons. She gave five hundred bits and we love her for an w rb. Anthony tell me what to put also gives us up thing from from this by back on. Crt jank john and me with you guys. John's got another surface for us. I do and it's a bit of a doozy in the audience. And in some people on our staff very worried about what's going on in the housing market and what it's gonna look like over the next year or two. It doesn't seem like what's been going on can be sustainable. Turns out that the vibe here at ti t. is reflected across the country because apparently searches for the phrase. When is the housing market. Going to crash are up. Two thousand four hundred fifty percent just over the past month similarly americans are searching in droves for explanations about why the housing market is so hot and home prices are rising so look we. We have talked about this multiple times. And i have some responses to the current state of the housing market from some insiders as well as some explanations about how we got here but i wanted to make sure that we have time for both of you to weigh and especially no me. Is this something that you're particularly worried about. Our people like the rise in google traffic like that. Is that freaking out a bit disproportionately well. Here's the reasoning. It is worrying that the housing market. And by that i mean the helms that are going up by forty or fifty percent over where they would have been last year because people are buying them with cash And not mind ender sort of in in some cases not even looking at them. And it's not just actual keeble one of the elements that's making this housing market so out of whack Is the fact and this. This happens is that there's some bottom fishing going on even at high prices from Private equity funds and like real estate sort of programs groups of investors and they have the ability to put cash into a real estate deal as soon as they see home whether there are physically seeing it or not as soon as it comes out on the market and as a result real actual people even if they wanted to follow the other part of the trend. That's moving prices which is sort of leaving from urban to more suburban outside of city locations because some people can work from home because it seems more desirable because and the pandemic made city living much less helpful and it was already expensive to begin with and so forth a lot of those people like actual real people who don't have tons of cash or aren't a private equity fund aren't able to actually do that and so they're getting of priced out of this market. Which is why. I think the second part of that search was lying is housing market so hot now. The other side of that is as willett crash right and in one of the things that happens. This is a housing bubble. A different kind of bubble than than the subprime mortgage market initiated. Back in the day that related to the financial crisis because investment banks are doing something a little bit different then they were buying up subprime loans which give it very high interest rates to lots of people. Then the economy turned they couldn't pay those rates or those rates went up relative to what they thought they would be able to pay pay the extra and a lot of foreclosures and defaults happen. Because of that so investment banks got smart And they're actually not lending even though rates are so low again to to most people who might want to buy a home right now for the reasons of of leaving the city going outside of it and so those people aren't actually in the market. Can they afford the market because they don't have the money but the leverage that's coming into the system the money that that the borrowing where the bar is happening is in some of these funds because they get money really cheaply from some of the big banks and they have. These sorts of lines are able to go in and purchase properties and oftentimes. When you hear so many stories around the country twenty bidders in forty bidders basically offering a one hundred percent or one hundred and forty percent cash over asking price not all of them are actually humans or they're not individuals And so it is creating skew for the ford ability of housing as well as a problem because people who make normal money or lost money this year lost jobs this year in wanna potentially move or buy a house are finding that they can't actually get loans even though These prices are so These rates are so low right now because of the federal reserve is asked so there are a problems brewing behind this bubble That can cause housing crash. They're merely different In terms of how they're evolving than they were last time around so no me to me. The most important question is yes The the was a trigger last time. And it's an important question. Ask whether it's going to be a trigger for a crash this time. But the gun was the derivatives. That was the gambling that they did on top of the housing market. And so they would. They would do ten dollars or oftentimes more of beds on top of a one dollar value of the the homes or the package of homes to oversimplify right or ten x value grant. So are they doing that again. This time or no is an element of the market in which that's being done so these Private equity funds real estate pool. Some of these actually have our borrowing lots of money relative to the house relative to other Collateral they might have in order to be able to be really quick with these above offer type of cash offers to to these homes which is what's bidding them up and so not the entire market in in the case of financial crisis right the the the market crashed because banks old basically used every single individual subprime loan to line lots of different derivative products and so forth. The derivative products right now are still related to real estate. But they're a little bit different their leverage their additional borrowing sometimes in the form of derivatives related to real estate or pools that aren't necessarily subprime loan related but they are related to still creating excess borrowing over tissue to not individuals but to sort of groups and two funds and to firms that are pooling together to be involved in the real estate market and bidding up prices as a result so yes there is leverage in the market and there are some elements of of derivatives or different sorts of Engineering around that as well as real individuals who are putting downcast. Because they're on the we need to leave the urban and suburban side of things and they simply had the cash so there's two different areas from which money is coming the leveraged part of it is the part that's most likely going to cause housing crash. Yeah that's what i'm really worried about is the leverage because that's the basically the gambling part so But i i wanna ask also about their excuse. They're saying no. This is not a problem. We don't have a bubble even though the prices are over inflated by about fifteen percent or so roughly speaking In some markets are way higher than that in terms of over inflation. But they're saying it's actually natural because of the pandemic people are looking to move out to the suburbs or wherever or rural areas and buy houses. And there's definitely some truth to that. But what percentage of that is is. What's actually causing the problem versus other factors right. I think the majority of the factors that the people that do wanna move out Often in the percentage of second home-buying is actually quite high. Because what's what's happening is In general there's not enough supply in the market in other words. People aren't selling the homes that they're living in In the more desirable areas so outside of the city areas because they can't afford to buy anything else and they're like. Hey we're in and outside of the city area anyway. Why would we moving. Where and how could we move there right. So so there's a lot of staying put and that is creating one of the elements of this. Which is there's more demand for outside of city places. Ben supply and that's why on average even though prices might be looking like they're up fifteen percent nationally there are forty fifty sixty or more percent on an individual house in a lot of specific areas. And that's what's creating these sort of like pocket bubbles throughout all of these areas so that is one of the causes But but a lot of the people that are doing that are also on second home because they can afford it because banks aren't actually loaning as much to some of these buyers as they did back even before. The financial crisis are at at some point since the financial crisis its not coming out of lending as much as it's coming out of people's cash or again the these pools of money and in different forms of private equity or or distress by are the types of funds that borrowing on top of it in order to buy the market on the assumption and this is similar To the assumption of the pre financial crisis period. That that these high is housing. Prices will will always go up and so they're basically kind of cornering the market with leverage money It's not real people that are buying up and bidding up the prices on a lot of this. When i say real people i mean most real people don't have a half a million two million more dollars sitting around this throw in an all cash bid. Enclose it that day that that's not normal for for most people's budgets. Yeah my last thought on. Is this so if you're not aware of this phenomenon. We talked about a couple of times on the show wall. Street's buying up all a lot of the houses because after the foreclosures the dave dave foreclosed on the homes and they thought wow these are really cheap and nobody has any money left so they bought up a lot of those homes and now they're charging rent back to the people who no longer have the money for a down payment and can't buy the homes so then they're building up the equity in those homes rather than the individual homeowner the real people that know me talking about and so they figure it's a win win. I'm going to get the rent. I'm going to pay for it. That way. And i build equity and i screw over the home owners in two different ways. But the problem here is that if they're playing that game too aggressively and they're driving up the prices too much and they're using leverage to bet on it again. Well then we rebuilt a bubble. That is very dangerous not just for the housing market but for the entire economy and all those neighborhoods in which the real spikes are happening. Right so yes so. We'll obviously follow this story and see how it develops. I you know everybody's got a different view on how much of a red alert it is and but but certainly something that we should all be concerned about to some degree and keep a careful eye on because here we go again. It could easily explode at some point. Yeah yep i. We were overtime here in this first hour. We've got another great our coming up for you guys Matt geeses latest. Excuses are funny. There's many other Both depressing and hilarious stories. But for now no me. Thank you so much for joining us. You're brilliant and it's just so great to have you on your knowledge on every time. And then john was here as well so quickly for a damage report jon show and that's where all the dragons are are. We'll be right back.

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We Made It Weird #29

You Made It Weird with Pete Holmes

1:25:56 hr | 6 months ago

We Made It Weird #29

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Only jesus get into two tb typically attributed gb deter chow chow to who who Bill that would be funny to put in like classic songs. Like jeff buckley's hallelujah. A bunch of all this stuff they added out. That's like you know we love these videos. I don't like i think it was called shreds shreds did we. Love sheds where they put in the. Yeah it's like something shreds or whatever but were they like the bad singing for people who loved that more than anything. And i feel like a view that they. I don't know that's something they could do going to say they could add that to the the makes i don't know if they're still making new ones shreds new sheds. Let's literally stop what we're doing than shreds the backstreet boys. One is really good. That one makes me laugh really hard when whenever people get stone. What i've been stoned people. Show me things that people like to watch when they're stoned. It's it's almost never what i'm looking for. I don't know why like if it's awkward or like strange. Yeah i don't know. I don't i don't like anything what i'm don't accept being funny like talking and joking around. If you like watch something it complete like you're not even you're stoned what you're not. Hi you're just like conked out in. Like kung-fu hunter mckay work. I mean i think people in will laugh harder at that silly thing that's happened but born out of eight hundred for me. Yeah it really for you. In general it ignites a sort of mania a childlike mania. That's wasted on watching a movie. Yeah we're you. You want like exactly what you said. You wanna be able to just like well. Your brain is acting differently so it's so much more fun especially if you're like you're kind of stupider and all these different things to catch those moments and you love those moments more than anything like a mistake or confusion you get those by talking. Yeah so. I don't know one of the things i was gonna say up top. Is i m still doing the jews thing. I'm only i've only been drinking. Jesus day green juice not like cranberry juice cocktail day. Eleven ten day ten two things. One i whatever. Google it only insane people do this. I tried to find some solidarity. Yeah and every like blog or blog. I found about it. I was like these people seem insane. So maybe i need to take a look at that and to the phenomenon of accountability. Really struck me because there were a couple times. The first week was a little bit harder than than than this the second week. Which isn't that bad. Actually pretty pleasant said devali sort of feel like hollow bamboo. All of the has yawn. All of the energy that spent on like digesting or thinking about eating more. Planning eating is just completely gone. So i feel very light and free. And i'm breathing clean and sleeping clean and every everything is better in so many ways but like when i was tempted i thought about how i mentioned on this podcast. I was doing it for two weeks. So whenever i was seriously considering eating something i was like well. I don't want to come on this podcast. The one we're recording right now and be like i gave up which is is sort of a christian thing but it's also i think it has to be like a workout fitness thing. I made me start thinking about. I wanted to ask you bell the times in your life where you've asked someone to keep you. accountable about. His mind is really short. But like i had my friend. John zarrella Who's a pastor. Now actually. I asked him to put parental blocks on my aol browser. Yeah and i wasn't even looking at porn which is looking at like bikini photos and stuff but like he was causing me to stumble as lingo a ha- and i gave him the password and i finally talked him out of it because it was true at blocked everything but then as soon as i am blocked. Just gorge really. Is that like binge purge binge purge sort of thing. Yeah but are there times in your life where you had to say. Can you keep me accountable on that. Oh my god well. It's so funny that you ask that. Because i just recently asked my. It's it's very aligned with what you're with the juice fast in the wellness program. That i'm doing. I actually just asked my therapist. Bell's not doing a detached. She's doing a wellness program. Yeah so. I'm just i'm just eating a lot of things that are really good for you. Know how we can make this more relatable. It's for people who go sugar. Basically both of what. We're doing nothing that has in common. Yeah his no sugar no carbs so even if this sounds completely in outer space. I'm sure most people listening of tried to eat less sugar and you know what that feels like. Yes exactly oh so much. Well and i want to say that i am doing no sugar at least for the first three weeks of it because instant week program But i am. I got a little bit of brown rice yesterday in like it was so sad. I get brown rice tonight. Thank you have to look away. When i'm like val i'm gonna put half an avocado in my juice and i get excited. I put a little salt in it. The adami coup you. You have to abandon everyone else's understanding of life. I know but it is weird. How like you dear brain does your taste do change. That's why we're going so hard court. Just very temporarily. And i have so much that i want to say about this and i said it last week to like i just found out that eating disorders have been like raised the amount of eating disorders has been raised since the pandemic which. I totally understand so like please. If you struggle with that any way do do. what's right. Somebody flagged that we were like this is sort of nutso behaviors. And we're doing it so temporarily for and again pete's doing something. More extreme for shorter period of time mine is actually not even not extreme. It just is a light shift in trying to not eat sugar and garbage rivera. I'm sitting it. Looks like you're at the golden chorale. Yeah i i feel you made. I smelled them. Actually misleading. I sorry to interrupt. But i'm just like i'm not having cravings it's really it's also very psychedelic. We'll get into that. Finish your thought. Yeah so the accountability is tied to that. Because i actually asked my therapist. When i told her i was going to do this program. I was like i would like i said he's been sorry to use this christian language but i would like to be held. Accountable did yeah I was like. I don't want this not accountable for sticking with the program accountable for not turning this into some sort of if not eating disorder just like very rigid and another thing to get down on myself about another addictions addicted to this other. Extreme i said i and i want my motivation for this to stay what it is which is to love my body by giving it the foods that it wants and to you know just to not interfere too much with my hormones and and my you know things that affect my mental health so you were noticing really starkly how you eat was affecting what how you were feeling on. Your hormones are regulating. How you're feeling he. You told me today on our walk the you're like i'm feeling much more balanced and a lot more equanimity and we're like oh is it. The stars is this is that and you're like no. It's you've taken out all of these strange things that do who knows what it's like rolling a die and you're feeling system yeah and cringe system. Yeah and some of the things we do know exactly like sugar does fuck up your in different system so it messes with your hormones and then you know basically. I was feeling asthma. Debate this whole year as i did when i was pregnant. And it was like yeah. You were really messing with your hormones So i do feel a lot more balanced and anyway it was just so funny that you said you ask that because i i can't really think of another example where i asked someone to hold me accountable person but i do think it was about word was just so in the like frequence uses of of all christians when we were still makes my skin crawl. It's crazy because it works. Especially for an achiever like me that leads to the binge purge to as i'm doing this podcast. I'm like well now. I really have to be on alert. Because now you've got to do the podcast and say you're still doing it. Luckily my motivations for this aren't just to impress anybody. Yeah did you have something else. That looks like something. Well i was just gonna say i do. I think it was most often used four boys and their sexuality and the reason why we didn't have it as much as a kirk ability. We were often the ones that were the accountability holders. We you know we were the ones that hatches. It's chunk to ask you accountable. Yeah gene and understanding of like. And i've talked about this before. Also king task funds to keep me accountable. Yeah i'm not saying there was sexual energy towards him. Yes saying the whole i come now. I'm telling you like. Michael gungor really turned me onto the idea that so many things are kinky sexually kinky. But they're like these weird stews that we make these swirling emotions. We play with the energy. Shame yeah to please ourselves. So what did i say. I would ask. Funds to keep me accountable. I think of a way out of ed. I didn't have anything going on. I didn't have a job. i didn't. I wasn't struggling at school meaning. I didn't take academics seriously enough to stress out about it. Which is like a board kid so i made a soap opera of my own design. Which is is pete going to look at porn gonna jerk off and these are body things so it's so much easier to activate the shame and then you get other people involved and then as soon as i broke out of it i found a way to weasel out of it. Then you binge yet. But it's i've said it a million times. It's why i feel like repressed sexually repressed people i'm not gonna say they have the best sex but they definitely have very high highs and very low lows so all of the like as i used to confessing to. My ex wife looked porn. Feel terrible which was modeled for me in. Lake guys only sermons in my youth. Group told me. Why don't i felt that i was doing. What did it's a kink any of the heroin and the high of the cocaine was. I've said that so many times now. Ball yeah and it was informing the other. It's like if i was. I know people that stopped smoking weed for a month so they get really high. It's the same thing. Yeah that's not what i'm doing with this juice thing by the way. Yeah actually know. It'll be so funny. If i broke the fast food in a hot sunday that that's actually started so big. It really california oregon big today on the toilet. I was like it's still going really crazy and she laughed. That's actually really related to this reading. That i was gonna Do i love to hear it. okay. I'm reading this fantastic book. I'm reading to fantastic books. But the one that i'm gonna read from is called you belong by sabine selassie. She's like a great a very popular contributor to ten percent. The podcast those numbers unhappy leaders. Yeah and i'm trying to find it. So she has a great chapter on. I haven't finished the book. But i know enough to be able to fully you recommend it zero graph way. I'd recommended books. Based on the forward she has a great chapter on embodiment. It's called ground yourself. And then there's this really great section of that called the erotic as power and it almost made me. As i was reading it i was like i kind of regretted what we were saying on the show. I mean i look what's beautiful about this podcast is that we just kind of are completely transparent In its meaning you get whatever we're feeling at the time but it almost made me regret how last week we were like. What's the big deal about. Sex sex is not like we were just kinda downplaying sex if you remember. We were like oh just talking about that. It's not the priority of my life. Yeah which is still true but this was just kind of got me in touch with like what gifts are of it and and like looking at it in a different way. Because of course there are thousand different ways to look at sex Can i just say we did on the show. We did the saying. We're trying to prove your point kind of that. You can sort of make any point. What we did was we did. Dogs are the worst and cats are the best we did. Cats are the worst. Dogs are the best and it wasn't that deep but the point was that's what we do. You have an opinion and you can argue that one. But if you wanna talk about xs the greatest. Yeah i could talk about that as well. Yeah absolutely we were sending the other the yeah exactly. That's what i was trying to say so anyway. This is this is a section where she talks about. And i haven't read it but there's a there's an essay by audrey lord called uses of their roddick the erotic as power and And so this is just like a little chunk from it junk from that essay. That's in this book. She'll and she also is very clear on this that she's like it's not about. It's not just sex. The roddick isn't about sex but it's not not about sex is how she puts it And this is the definition that she gives before i get into the audrey lord section the erotic is embodied awareness with an attention to joy to savoring every moment not for stimulation but for liberation. Just that you read me this book. I know i talked about being off. Porn a million times because basically i'm constantly trying to go off porn but like so many things. It is addictive That that sounds like i'm doing it all the time. It's not a huge part of my life but occasionally under stress. It's this thing. I'll resort to and you reading that part to me i was like porn is again. This is an anti porn. I know there's there's people who don't want that either. And i don't want to go to that extreme either. I've lived so much of my life in that extreme. That's not what i'm talking about saying for me. Just going for stimulation or stress relief sort of using the sophisticated samurai sword that is eroticism sexuality and all of the spirit and all of the life and all of the connection and all of the joy that's associated with that beautiful samurai blade and just using it to like scratch my ass sort of what it can feel like well i would. I would also argue. That potentially are posed. The question like i think those are two different things like. It's they're both sexual. But i don't even know if based on this if i would use it's not erotic. Yeah that's what i'm saying. Yeah but it's using its using what could have been an erotic energy. Yes even that doesn't just mean having sex with you. Yeah that just means like letting live in me. Yeah and be an energy. Says it's like an energy that you could use other ways you're sort of. That's big in chinese medicine as well. Yeah the chee or and also. I think you can with masturbate in an erotic way and you can maybe even masturbating are an our with porn in an erotic way but i know what you mean just because we've talked about the so much and i have my own version of this of the like. This is just a thing i have to. It's like the same part of your brain that would like get take a chocolate cake out of their food. Go insane thing is going. i'm starving. I'm bored i only. I'm just to eat this chocolate cake. Mainali lucia feel good button. I remember telling you about a time. That i looked at porn. It wasn't in a confession way. We were just chatting. And i hadn't looked a really long time and then i did and it was deeply wasn't even like it was not i don't know i'm specifying. The content wasn't hard core crazy. Yeah and i was like so dropped in to the the rush aso novel and intense and it wasn't taboo shameful and then i was like but that that's where it gets me then the next time i go back and it wasn't it was like it was chocolate cake again. Mindless chocolate cake chocolate cake. Sometimes chocolate cake is like holy fuck. We're alive reading travelgate. Yes that's how. I felt not over share. I don't often say that on this but that really good porn experience was actually like i can't believe i live in a world where i want to see something that looks like best and i can. Yeah it almost felt like like greco roman he added. Oh my god. I have this desire and i live in a world. Where if you have it you can get it an holy ship and i was the in my body and it was glorious so there we've just did dogs and cats with porn but so often it's cats and dogs for me e absolutely and all of this is always just like maybe sometimes you are just scratching an inch. But it's trying to like take a moment of pausing and doing everything more mindfully like no noting. When is happened. I don't think it might well. I won't say who told me but somebody told me that he was like. I tried to masturbate. Mindfully is like what does it feel like to be in my body. What does it feel like to touch my own body and all this stuff and i tried to do it and it completely ruined it for me and then i noticed that this is over when i masturbate. I'm often like clenched in my fame. There's no there's no presence. It's completely escapism yet. My literally my face is like it. Seemed like a standup. I was with my face. I look like gilbert godfried. I'm like getting it over with right and it was too challenging to go like no be your body masturbating. I was like. I don't wanna be my body mass or so. There was still some of that. Shame absolutely and that's a very. It's like the times. I've tried to masturbate. When i've been on a low dose of a non non specified drug experience. It just doesn't seem to make any sense. You're like 'cause you're so in reality. How many beds do i have about drugging off and how kinda strange it is and that really is addressing that cognitive dissonance where i'm doing but i'm also like clearly not entirely at peace with it. Yeah and that's where the porn comes in. It's like here this. This'll get it done with and it's like it's al. Wow there's so many parallels like it's like eating in front of the tv. Hugh are year like this is kind of an event. It's you know it's it's taking me out of my body. So i can just eat as much as i want your. It's making me dissociate. So i don't have to deal with the shame of eating way too much and i don't even mean this in a phallic way. It's like nobody wants to eat a hot dog mindfully. I know there's a penis ought joke. I mean we all know hotdogs or the go-to for like the food that you don't want to think about how they made it right and but it would be like sitting at your dining room table with candles. Lit and fine cloth. Napkins and silverware and a plate and eating a hot dog and really chewing it and savoring. That's not how we eat hot dogs and so often porn can just be a hot dog at the ballgame. es as opposed to. You're absolutely right. Like what does it feel like to eating this and to be mindful of. Yeah yeah and. I think i do think that You know male masturbation for a lot of reasons. Some of them are are understandable but in general male masturbation actually kind of has worse. Pr than female. masturbation right. Because i i can i. I don't always but like i don't. I don't look at porn. Not in a judgmental way. I used to but like i tried a couple times after having leila and i. It just wasn't doing it for me I don't think that's like because i'm a mommy now. I think it's because have. I wasn't in bodied before your and and it's actually very easy for me to to not look at porn or to to masturbate. Because i can really get into that erotic place where i'm like my beautiful female body like the flower of my vagina like i can. I can really feel even my fingertips and the that's an erotic. That's eating hot dog at the table. Yeah there was a comedian. Mary gurley who had a very funny bed about the difference. Between if you walk in on a guy jerking off. It's horrible yeah and embarrassing. And then She was like if you walk in on me masturbating hoops. You caught me being hot. Yeah and now was a bid. And i remember really thinking about that. That's exactly what i'm talking about. And i do think i. i would say that. The whole trying to masturbate erratically for you might be but i'm not telling you what to do but that might be something to not give up on like forty year old virgin. No i mean just because clearly there is. There's the the christian shame around it. You have such a loaded way more than i do. Such a loaded history of shame around masturbation specifically and there's the cultural just distaste for it and logical shame Pooping bar thing throwing throwing up as same thing and men ejaculate i read this interesting book about pornography many years ago and they hypothesized that one of the reasons why men like pornography is because they have an unconscious. Shame that something sort of. I'm not saying it's gross but something potentially gross is like expelling from your winger and then in porn. That is like the most celebrated do it here. Do you adhere hits happening. How much like verbal confirmation and visual confirmation that this wonderful thing today were saying that that was like salving this primal ono some because one of the reasons why female masturbation is less tau in certain ways Girls have gotten it. Yeah i mean. It wasn't even a thing. I feel like in the eighties. Nobody talked about girls. Don't do that. Please don't misunderstand me. I'm talking about now. Yeah in this conversation in this context. Yeah there's no cleanup. Richard lewis. When i was opening for him at this great bit about like if i could masturbate with no cleanup. I'd be masturbating all the time and i was like. Yeah the reason. Why guys aren't masturbating in the car. It's because there's a mess why wouldn't you. I mean other than let's not entirely decent. I understand there's reasons other than that but like sometimes it does come down to like just. It's yuck that's so interesting. Yeah well i mean. I think there's so much here because it goes back to what you were saying about. Repressed people have the best sex but like there are these different ideas of sex and we christianity. In i'll i'll say purity culture Really i i hope. They're starting to figure out that they are doing. The opposite of what they are intending. Which is like i mean rape culture pornographic culture meaning like do this kind of unhealthy. Eating idea which i know is an all nba. So much of foreign all of that i think stems from sexual repression and so you have the sexual repression sex where it's like. Yeah i'm dirty. I'm bad we shouldn't be doing this. This is wrong. This is bad and of course to remedy the shame of. I'm doing something bad. There's going to be this. Like like hyper masculine. Kind of like. I take what i want. I'm doing it anyway not to mention the. The patriarch will elements within christianity So it's tied to this idea. I think of of like dominating. I i wish i had this more formed out but while thinking about like sexual violence not just not just The big ones. Yeah but like the flashers yeah is anatomy is so gross so it leads to life course. That comes from shame. Not just guys in trench coat. Of course yeah. These aren't like balanced people or whatever. Yeah or even like off in front of people who don't want you to jerk off in front of them and getting off on that idea is like i is. It's like incorporating and in folding your shane into your sexual experience right and then so it's kind of like not to just give it. I would say that's overly masculine sex so it's not i'm not saying male but i am saying You know if there's not a balance of masculine and feminine That could be what happens. That's like toxic masculinity sex and then she talks about an. I'll read it to like the erotic being this more feminine idea but like that's so going back to that type of masculine sex of course there's a huge spectrum everything from jerking off in front of somebody who doesn't want you to to just what a lot of us are doing and have done of like traditional gender roles and sex kind of being mentally somewhere else women dissociating from their bodies gilbert food face while masturbating is often with a lot of people are doing in the bedroom. That's right like eyes clenched shut thinking about other circumstances. Not being there with women not being in their bodies free to go like what is this. Actually feel like yes. Leg of like hippy sacks like really embodied in like present not looking away from what you're doing sort of like russell brand's character. And i imagine russell brand seems like a very free person but wrestle brand's character in forgetting sarah marshall is like not a shame yet maccabi so but like i think a lot of us you know might be having sex kind of looking the other way on their own bodies right or doing the things that we built into incorporate our shame. Shame is gonna be here. That i'm gonna make it card of this. I mean katie official her wonderful instagram account. Sex's weird there's underscores. Sex underscore is underscore weird so many stories of weird sexual encounters from her from other people. That seem to like just go like. Oh wow we're dealing with a huge emotional storm Different climates there's nice climates and stormy climates. Rainy ones and haley one. Where like the punchline. And i i use that term very loosely. The reveal at how many stories have you heard where normal guy normal guy. Normal guy. normal guy. Strange strange strange finale. In the bedroom. Yeah it's really. It's she makes it very funny but it's also troubling and it speaks to a sort of unreconciled inner world. That's that i'm sort of my version of that is is is my gilbert godfrey face when a masturbating but obviously it has all these multiple applications. Yeah and i think it comes up probably for all of us in a lot of multiple liga lots of different ways. And i don't think it can be as simple as this but i do think it's largely just that it is the mo if you're doing it in this other way this erotic way It's the most vulnerable you can get your like naked externally and internally in you are fully present if you are completely in your body if you are You know w- speaking your truth and saying what feels good and what doesn't like that's so vulnerable at like most people can't bear it right That's that's exactly what it is if pornography for me is a placeholder for being honest and looking at myself at open with myself and Free then it's not serving me. You know what i mean. Yeah well yeah speaking of showing your ding dong and all that sort of stuff in the christian world that was kind of a thing like it would be a bigger issue. Few told someone they were gonna burn in attorney for their urges. of course. that's going to happen. I wouldn't say it was rampant. And in fact i there was an instance i mentioned in my book. I ended up. I was wrong about that. I actually ended up talking to that person about it. I read about it in comedy. Sex gone that somebody did something and they were like oh. I had a mental illness and they were so sweet. We're still friends. I love this person And they were so gracious in correcting me but since then we were talking about remember there was there was somebody that we knew that never masturbated and then they would like casually this. This wasn't this is a third end story but mentioned like that. They went through a phase where they would just show people their penis and stuff and like a pro. It was a big problem and it was. It was stemming. it's not an excuse. That's fucked up and it is not okay right. But it was stemming from like they. They're they're earnest desire and this. This is a big theme. Annoy book their earnest desire for god for truth and for love and for connection and for some sense of the infinite Was there was a an amendment stapled to that that also got passed which was your sexuality is evil and so i'm not again. I'm not excusing it. But i mean there's a reason why you would see i don't like the word perversions. But you would see some of that behavior. Yeah and again. I didn't know that guy that was just a story. It also is kind of something that i think might stem from the you know the idea that in order to to access that connected eternal love Squishy awakened place Which would be like heaven realm. You have to disregard your body cut off from your body. That is a place that lives outside of your body and you have to deny your body in order to get there as opposed to this quote from buddha. Which i've been really going back to you. Because i couldn't believe how just in line it was. Which is there is one thing that when cultivated and regularly practiced leads to spirit deep spiritual intention to peace to mindfulness and clear comprehension to vision and knowledge to a happy life. Here and now. And to the komo coleman culmination of wisdom and weakening and what is that one thing it is. Mindfulness centered on the body. So it's just the difference of like getting to that heaven realm through your body very in line you know. He was in line and flaine to news in line to achieved in lines. Ten minutes about so. I think we we primed this perfectly if i can just read this so actually before. I read the well. I'll read the spurs. So here's the audrey lord quote for once we begin to feel deeply all the aspects of our lives we begin to demand from ourselves and from our life pursuits that they feel in accordance with that joy which we know ourselves to be capable of our roddick knowledge empowers us becomes a lens through which we scrutinize all aspects of our existence forcing us to evaluate those aspects honestly in terms of their relative meaning within our lives and this is a grave responsibility projected from each of us not to settle for the convenient the shoddy the conventionally expected nor the merely safe isn't that beautiful lower And i just wanted to read so just some of the so lord describes the erotic as touching into a feminine plane with each within each of us although she speaks about the sexual degradation of women connected to devaluing the the devaluing of erotic knowledge. This is not only about gender. it's also not not about gender In the misses the quote from audrey lord on the one hand the superficially has been kurt. Sorry on the one hand the superficially erotic has been encouraged as a sign of female inferior already on the other hand. Women have been made to suffer and to feel both contemptible and suspect by virtue of its existence. So it's just that lake that way that the patriarchy and the diminish in the diminishing of the feminine traits like negatively affects all of us. Because it's taken this idea of eroticism not just in sexuality but in our lives the sensual Kind of off the table and then okay this the last one. It's so good. I wanna read you this whole book okay. So she says it's clearly not only about the sexual and it is not about the sexual to state the very obvious. Sex is a powerful force in our lives. Belonging inevitably becomes entangled in the ideas about sex and the erotic for many years. I confused being desired with be with belonging and having a lot of sex with the erotic lord describes the degradation of their roddick. Insects leads to a type of sex. That is about the imprisonment of the male gaze which she refers to as the pornographic. So that's basically. What i was saying is You know the porno I love like pornographic in that term amidst just like it's like the opposite of liberation with. That's what makes it interesting to me. Yeah because like we're in the pursuit of freedom internal freedom spaciousness spiritual freedom. I don't want to have like rigid hard boundaries per se. Because we were saying well there. There's a good experience here and there's so often it felt like an imprison in imprisoning sort of that being said somebody said we were too hard on the pali community. Oh yeah uh-huh did you want to address that. Yeah well. I wrote him back then. Yeah it was a very friendly. He did say it very nicely and if we did on the last episode sound too negative. I really thought it was a safe thing. Durant about because we were saying. Almost kinda tongue-in-cheek how lame we are there. Were not like adventurous. It's just not that interesting to me. I really think like almost like designing a video game character. There's like how much do you value this. And how much you value that. Sex was like lower on the list for me. And i'm not saying sexist like higher on the list for poly people but like that type of adventure league seems to be a higher priority for some people. And i don't you don't need my blessing but of course i understand that yeah and it is just for different phases in in life. But i think actually he didn't. He wasn't specific. But i think he was actually referring to the thing that i said about the conversation that i had with the friend where i was saying. It's harder to potentially harder to You know like give the universal type of unconditional love to multiple people than it is to just lock on one person just based on energy and resources but yeah. I don't know what i i mean. I also know that that there are some people. I've heard like arguments for Poly-amorous that makes so much sense. Words like putting no limits on any love so then there's just so much more so much more sort of like it's not a finite resource absolutely ended. And i believe that and the argument against what i said is so obvious. It's like well if you have two children do does your love expand or does it right and you limit wiping was always like yeah and having two children is a fucking pain and yeah i again. I'm all for it. You don't need my blessing but you have it. I believe in it and not you need this. But i respected completely and i think i understand it as well as i can and the two kids. That's a lot of diapers. A lot of you know what i mean. There's just a lot. And that's where i go out the friends that we have that we've known that have been poly-amorous. I'm always just like i can't he. He laughed so hard. When i said this i was like. Let's see. I had sex with her. And i think we did this move. Did i do that. Move with just the check. Balancing of it is just overwhelming to me but that also speaks to our life as parents. Yes we're saying that's just not interesting to us. Yeah twenty three hours a day. I really feel like. I am one deep hour of sleep and twenty three hours a day. I'm thinking about my daughter. And i'm thinking about you. Yes we are in such a nesting phase Are we don't even have friends. Yeah yeah and we're just like other lovers time to go on a walk with a friend. Yes minus sixty nine with britain. We're we're like making it worse. But i hope for my really want to be clear that like there are times when it's made sense in my life and like polly emery was like this. Of course this is the truth. This is so valid and we just kind of enjoying a funny way like why. That isn't the case for us right now. Listen to the podcasts into visitors. Going to say the podcast in two thousand ten. I can't stop advocating poly-amorous. Yeah i was never in multiple relationship at once. But i was fascinated with it. Yeah i stand a bit about it. Where i just basically may made the case very uncomfortable into a lot of people on dates that it was ridiculous that we're all living ally and it was not natural. Yeah and the bid included the line. If you have ears to hear. I only said it wants. It was so pretentious and up my own ass and i had other poly comics. Come up to me. And they're like. That's a great bit doing that. I can't even remember that bed if it was a very good time in my life because i noticed identified at that time was an anger. This hostility had for other men. Which was when i walked down. I was in new york. I was walking down the street. And i just noticed not subconsciously but in the lower levels of my conscious mind every man i saw i was either bling a threat or not a threat to me in terms of reproducing my jeans. Yeah when he didn't play you could steal my girlfriend about him. Yeah and that's a by product of possession absolutely now. I'm remembering the bit. It had a partner like you can't own a person like this. This is a lie. It's so funny like everything sort of is ally and you have to pick the areas that you want to tear down. That's what i was just gonna say is like poly-amorous it seems. In in my experience polly emery and monogamy both have their own pretty equal set. But but different sets of pros and cons. And you really are just choosing which which works for you. Yeah worked for you and like both of us. Are i think what we enjoy. And what we think is so funny is that we're both like god. It just seems like the the type of effort. Efforting it. Paul in poly-amorous seems just so not worth it to us at this point i think but i also this footnote is. We're exhausted. we're just exhausted. That seems like so much energy But of course the there's a type of efforting in monogamy that just is working for us now and it's worth it but i totally understand how somebody could be like dogs and cats again and it's totally and i understand that argument of people being like you know. Look i'd been with the same person for twenty years. It's a different type of exhausting. Right to not indulge in these these thing i think what the if monogamy is the dogs in poly-amorous the cats. I think one of the things that probably frustrates. The cats is that we live in a world where dogs are the norm. So you've benefit like if everybody was poly-amorous and we monogamous that. Then we were the out liar. Frustrating after explain over and over and over. Why we're doing this weird sort of kinky thing like you only do each other. That's so weird. Why what about other people you fucking psycho only god. I wish i remembered somebody. Seven great bit about that that it was like really kinky to be monogamous like flake. Me please yeah. It is research you wear rings. Yeah and this person's mind that's like the kinky is thing isn't maxa vestry benny. Somebody is kinky. Yeah this is again like marriages. Can michael gungor. Podcast is called loving this and he just put out. I haven't heard it but we talked about it. And he put out this episode about how the church is very kimchi. Even though i haven't heard it. I'll recommend a book on a forward. I know michael is very interesting so check that out if if you nasty nasty nasty. I have questions because i have a great one. What is the time in your. This is from adam copeland. He said what a time in your life when you felt like you needed guidance or advice every day. I do love advice. We've covered that ad nauseam But i would say. When i got divorced i remember really going around and asking so many people. What am i supposed to do Now and i. I've covered a lot of these. The one that i don't shares you get bad advice too bad for me. Somebody said to me verbatim. We were in which was a comedy club on the east side and he said you just do a lot of cocaine. Oh my god take advice in reform at zony. You got lots of different advice. And i do. I've said this before Brett gelman john daly. Both were like you did it. You got through your twenty s without any major fuck up so like you happen to have been married. But that's what incubated you from arrested or or dying or whatever it might be So that was really good advice. Yeah i think the same for me. I mean there's i really. we both love to flap. Are gums and give advice unsolicited advice. Although i think we're getting better about that i mean we get all that energy out in this podcast but i we also both love getting good advice dr been. I'm so much of the advice that we give other. People is the advice that other people gave us even if it's just indirectly through their books absolutely but i definitely needed it when i was getting divorced too i i remember when i it was the first time i ever saw a therapist and and i went and saw therapist and said i she said why are you here. And i said because. I don't know what the right decisions for my own. Life are and i like i really think at that point still. I really believed that. Everybody else knew better than i did. So i was just like in the subtext which retook us about a year to uncover was me saying i don't i am unhappy in my marriage and i want to leave but i'm don't trust myself to know whether or not that's the best decision will. That was dr gary pens. I started seeing him when i was in a very difficult relationship And i think yeah yeah and ninety nine percent of our discussions were him telling me it was okay. Hey leave the person that i was with. Even though it's funny you say this is like learning to trust your own intuition. And as roma's would say cleaning up your game meaning if they're always cobwebs of other people's agendas bad programming from your parents bad programming from your culture bad from your religion. If you can clear those things out and really get as naked as a pair of the fruit if you can be as pure and naked and honest as a pair then you really can trust your intuition and then you can really learn to love yourself to the great epiphany that so many people have on psychedelics through meditation or whatever it might be is that they look outward for love and they look outward for affirmation they think being popular will make them happy they think being successful will make them happy and the great mystic teachers and the great mystic teachers that are psychedelics and the grey mist practices. That are fasting. Meditating prayer whatever it might be always point you in word and when you bask in that that eternal found the found of youth is an out there or the holy grail is out there. It's bubbling up from inside you and when you realize that energy is love and that you are an expression of that love you become less interested in the opinions of other people and then you become less interested in the in the advice that someone would give you. That would help you please. Those other people and then you can be much more finely tuned instrument like a pair and just live your truth beautifully and honestly and then advice becomes less interesting. Eac you learn to trust your own not your own. Inner compass meaning your rationality meaning like a perfect tree diagram. That you can weigh the pros and cons and really trust your intellect to get you through things we can rest in the home of your being and know that you're okay no matter what and then your your relationship to advice changes absolutely and i would just like as always i how. How much of this podcast is you saying. Something like that and me being like its embodiment. even what you're talking about his embodiment like so sure not to say in its body. Yeah not to say that Embodiment is the fickle. Although i think i'll have to get back to you on that so far it is for me and my experience but but if you are at the moment that i said to the therapist i don't know how to make decisions for my own life. I wish she has. She was a great therapist. But i wish she had said will argue in your body. Because i wasn't so of course. I was not connected to my intuition or my gut. And that's what really you're talking about too is like not rational knowledge but a guts right connection to your body and to the present moment in your spirituality and your body being the house and the sensory to discover that inner energy. That's right yes your body absolutely. I think there's something to the pair when you cut into it. It's all just pure juicy white flesh. I mean it's one thing on the inside. The also i i would say that it's still. There is no shame in advice or guidance. And i think that that is even often the a very wise thing to seek out and then it plays a role like your intuition still plays a role so i guess what i'm saying is for this person or anybody just because you need to seek advice or guidance doesn't mean that you're not embodied or even connected to your own intuition. I think go ahead and have not. How many teachers do we have. We have so many teachers and therapists like seek that guidance. And then just run it through the filter of your own intuition in your own Got okay. This is a fun question. Care wait is by korean courage and clutter. What a great handle high vowel. Npd we got a pd. We do you both talk a little about your wedding. My fiance and i are one of those covert couple- couples planning a wedding for a second time and i'm losing touch with why marriage matters to us and could use your wisdom. How did you make your decisions while planning and stay grounded and intentional would actually matter most in terms of where you allocated money like with what you decided. I love this question. I love talking about our wedding. I'm going to try such a great job at our wedding. Thank you so much. I did do the bulk of it. Not not in like a you know gender nor me with but because just love this kind of thing. it was like crashing and also your during crashing. But i wouldn't have let you be any more involved than you are. Because i was so excited just so excited to do it. I went to all the location. I don't know. I'm being defensive inside locations. The wedding planner would show you things i don't have. I didn't mean to sound defensive. I just loved our wedding. And i don't want to like the difference between my first and second wedding is so huge. I won't even talk about my first wedding the second wedding. Because i want you to answer the question in bulk so i'll just get me out of the way here with so special. I'm so glad. I did it. i've said this a million times but we are liturgical creatures and ceremonies are a huge part of human history and their greater than the sum of their parts. The magic of sharing beal which val Succeeded in doing in the vibe and the colors and the and the music everything even it wasn't fancy of our wedding and letting people in to witness at that that to me was such a big part was being like we know were already committed to each other and now we're inviting are a very small amount of our family and tons and tons of our friends to witness like an event like the something that they can say. You know. this hasn't happened but if we hit the rocks or something so to be like wait. I was at your wedding. You guys fucking love each other Like i remember that. I remember that. Yeah we do it for fun but watching the wedding video reminds us of lake this peak experience and this commitment and the commitment is such a like a celebration is what it was. There is no denying couldn't in which a lot of people do. And i think maybe i have even done at times with my my first marriage but like you rewrite the history of being like we never even really loved each other whatever and like we could not even look at the photos from our wedding deny that but certainly the people who were there were like no we were inside your love and it's a gift you give other not that this is why you should do it. But all the married couples that were there felt renewed like they shared that with us like. And when you go to a good wedding you feel renewed. It's taking this private thing and making it. This interconnected thing. Yeah which always feels great. The point of life is connection. One of the reasons we do. This podcast is to connect with you. Guys have these ideas and thoughts and your thoughts spread. We talked about this last week. That isolation is worse than heart disease. It's worse than morbid obesity. It's worse than all these diseases combined. It's not what we're supposed to do so as with everything. A relationship can so benefit from taking that well water and watering your friends and family with it and letting it spill out and be abundant a. That's the spirit that i remember from our wedding. Oh i love that. it was a. It was a geyser. Well-water i Yeah i wanna start of course by saying getting married is not for everybody in even the the percentage of people that getting married is for having a wedding is not for everybody so like no shame you do you to everybody else out there like whatever. We're all unique beings and we all need different things but we can speak to what our experience was. Which is what this question was asking and we did go back and forth for a time where we were like. Do we wanna get married at all. And then if we do once we kind of decided that we did wanna get married. We're like do we eloped to bora bora remember. That was one of the options. Well that was an and like do we have or do. We just like do something really small in our backyard. That was another option. We were just very like friends with clergy. Like the options open up. Yeah the i don. I guess you don't remember but really truly one of the options that that we deeply considered was you and me and robin. Kristen go to bora bora how education and rob l. mary's us while we're there was just a trip So we really explored all of the options and ultimately the reason why we decided to have a wedding was exactly. What you just said was the idea. We felt like we still feel like we found this. Really remarkable and rare thing like it's funny because that's what it is. It's like if your love is a beautiful pony. Let the pony. Prancers and letty redmond. Everybody's spent know what's better analogy is. It's a big circus tent. Let everybody come into the tent. Yeah that's what it felt like so your love is a third thing. The peden val show. It's the energy and the love created by peden val s that later manifested isley love. But before that the marriage the wedding was this great precursor going come on in. It's nice in here. What the values are. This is how we talk to each other. That we think about our love is what the music is. Food is and it wasn't fancy. I can't stress that enough like if you're thinking we had like hollywood wedding. We didn't it was casual. People had to carry their own chairs. I area determined about that so that goes back to allocating money. I was so specific on. it was like. Do you want the chairs for the ceremony. And then like two thousand more dollars on chairs for the table when the tables were two hundred feet from where the ceremony was. It was like no. I want everybody to pick up their chair and bringing to the table. I was very clear about that. Then you know what's fun about the times we live in is that sorta has this like great blue grass. Like people like that. Yeah and the are wonderful videographers in photographers got a so. It's a part of our wedding video. People carrying chairs and carrying chairs for other people. And i was like thank you so much for getting that moment. That will make a montage to you. Don't want to watch your whole wedding. You just wanna watch hip. Oh yeah any any like photographer. Usually the photographers do video to. And any of them worth their salt will make like a beautiful video out of its gone. Are the eighties days. Where a new press walking in news but yeah so so really we. Just i was like for me i loved. Well i will. I'll i will also say the main Thing for me to was all of that. Lovely stuff i just said and also i m never happier or more aligned than when i am at a dance party with all of my friends so dancing was a huge reason why we even had a wedding in the first place and and then i loved the challenge and the the lake purpose of creating an environment and a whole event an evening that looked like our love like it was like an artistic challenge to be like can i make something with with decorations and music and literally. You made them yet. I made. I did like most of the decorations i made out of like felt and fabric Can i make something that is like taking this most beautiful part of my life and just kind of putting it cra making a whole event. That looks like that and then inviting my friends end to it so it was fantastic. Mr fox boom. Yeah it was like it was in spire by fantastic. Mr is one of my favorite moves. One yeah it was one of our movies and then it's fun to think now that like And so anyway. That was like are reasons for wanting to do that at and you'll find your own to this person. You'll find your own reasons. I hope some of those resonate But of course planning a wedding can be so stressful. You are alone are wonderful friend. Jamie lee actually has a whole netflix. Show coming out about how stressful it can be called ridiculous now. I think it's called the wedding coach. The wedding coach It looks amazing. And i think so. Many people are going to relate to it because so many people there. It's like almost the final test in the relationship like if we can make it through planning a wedding. Then we're ready to get married but assert certainly if you got a pandemic into that koi very so as far as like what. Do pri- prioritize in terms of where you allocate money. Well while the i'll go back to that question for me. The number. One thing that i was like. I don't care how much this costs. We will make cuts in other ways. was getting a phenomenal wedding planner. Because i knew that that would affect everything so We've found her. Name's marnie farmer. Her her Her not handle but her company is called so smitten. So if you're in the la area can't recommend her enough And because we spent a lot of money she has different tiers and we got the the most expensive here because it's the most involvement and because we were able to do that. Everything else in the whole wedding process went so smooth and it was really nice. It's like producer can show biz. It's like having a great line producer that makes sure everything's okay even like helped telling guess where to go. And i don't know they help with everything and when i say wedding planner i'm not just talking about a wedding coordinator. Which is somebody that you have on the day like. The first thing i did was well we found a venue. But the first thing you can do is hire this person and they will help you a venue and they will help you get cater caterers. And they know what is like a rip off what things to consider. I get emails from her. Which we're like we have to. I'm emailing all of these people to see who's going to provide the water. Is it going to be the venue or is it going to the caterers. And i'm like yep people would just be without water. If this was up to me. I would never in a million years. Consider that all right. So you're okay. Yeah so. I am not goes back to the first question which is how did you make your decisions while staying grounded and intentional. I ran everything through the filter of. Is this worth the stress. Because if it's it's putting too much strain too much stress drop it. That is not what this is about. And i don't with the guest list to by the way absolutely first wedding was like of course my third cousin in the second one was like mom dad brother. Yeah that's it from there is an arrest was just pals awesome. That's right well. We also had the pleasure of this being our second wedding which i would for both of us which i would just recommend everybody do their first wedding like a second one. Which is for you for you. Everybody's going to try and guilty you. It's about your dying on rita. It's like i'm sorry it's It's about the people in our life. Yeah that we want to actively are in our life that actively support our relationship and we support them. I know there's different schools of thought on that but in fell really. Good that every photo i look at. I don't have to be like a mad. Is actually my great great second on geno. Good old ingenue now. Yeah we. When we did the guest list we we really like went through with a fine tooth comb. And we're like we are only inviting people that when we imagine seeing them on our wedding day where like you came and we're like excited to see them and we really even more than that only invited people who like. We felt new us as a couple. So we're some cuts like there. Were people that. I wanted to invite that. I didn't invite but it often came down to like. Do they know peden val just like yeah and And then of course you brought up a great point so much of what. The stress from weddings comes down to is like family. Feeling that they're owed a certain Or even friends feeling that they are owed a certain tidal or of involvement or whatever and people just for some reason love to make weddings all about them and use that they're paying for it to like get their way. Yeah if they're paying for it. That does make it way harder. I would say get married in your backyard before you let somebody lord anything over you have your big day. Yeah if somebody's paying for your wedding Sure that they're the type of person that will not use that against you and my parents paid for my first wedding and they didn't do that but they the trouble is that we are at like a generational break here where the generation before us. It was like your parents. Present are presenting their daughter to be wed to this man and they make the guest list and they do everything that's right it's a it's like a bar mitzvah it's they they. There are so many of my dad's friends that like he was worried they would be offended. And they're they're they don't wanna be there over so many bids seinfeld's a bit about. No one wants to go to your wedding. That's the old way. Yeah as familiar with people if you can i. I couldn't my first time but if you can. I think it would be worth losing the ice cream cookie sandwich truck so you can do it with people like our first ten as you could do it the tone in the field and the spirit of it i think is way more important than Making sure it looks great on instagram. Or whatever absolutely yeah. So i really think that the Yeah it's it's so important. I think to have support in planning and to be very picky about who you invite because that affects the vibes so much and there. It's really tough to have these boundaries. I honestly don't know why it was so easy for me. I think because. I have in general a really great family. Not in general i do have really family That didn't push it too much but Also you kind of put out this vibe of like. Hey we're doing this however we want to do it for this one day. It's going to be all about us. And like i'm so sorry if that hurt your feelings you can rule every thanksgiving from here on as you have been. Yeah this'll just be about us. Yeah once you start putting out that vibe most people will get the idea but yeah just just keeping the center around and then a mantra that i told myself when it got stressful was like there was the whole thing about or. Do we want real silverware or this bamboo silverware and of course it was going to be the difference between a lot of money and i. I don't know why i had it on my like. It mattered that it was real silverware and then it was just like wait a minute. The point of this is that we are married at the end of it and it just put everything into perspective. So yeah so i think bamboo. It is baby. Bamboo and we still have those bamboo. Folks are and if you can get an ice cream truck. That's that's a nice people. Love an ice cream truck people love taco truck which is not very expensive and then really be for me. Music is really important especially for setting a vibe so be particular about your music. That's what i would say. Okay enough wedding. talk enough. i went on and on. i couldn't stoller. i love it. I'm just thinking of people who don't give a shit. I don't have any more questions do oh can onto i love you. I love thinking about our wedding. I love it to you. It's it really was exactly what we wanted it to be. It was so worth it. I have a really great poem. That i was gonna read last week. And then you read that beautiful thing. Which a lot of people reposted by the way the like eat more ice cream Here we go okay. So this is called below are strangeness. By mark nieto my soul tells me we were all broken from the same nameless heart and every living thing wakes with a piece of that original heart aching its way into blossom. This is why we know. Each other below are strangeness. Why when we fall we lift each other or win in pain. We hold each other. Why whence when sudden with joy we danced together life is the many pieces of that great heart loving itself back together again. Life that part life is the many pieces of that great heart loving itself back together right so good reminded me. It's right there on the post. God comes to disguise it our lives. Yeah and just like we. Things are so hard and have been so hard for so long and just remembering that we help each other and we the fact that we can feel sad for someone on war we can feel happy for someone in celebrate with them or that. When you see somebody who needs something. You have an urge to help them. These are all signs that point to the this is not a cruel reality that even though this is a hard reality. It's not malicious or cruel. There's goodness that is a through line through all of it. What a beautiful note to end on earth mama with the flourish. The have you heard anti new new joint flourish. No oh it's called. J get the car. I'm ready to go the com- good. I gave an imitator. Yeah she's imitable. That's right thank you mama. Thank you guys. Thank you for your questions. We love them. We love this community. Thank you for all of your thoughtful responses. And you're loving messages. We love all of them and reopen. Ever you are you doing wonderful. So those light and love and hope joy and eat the hotdog mindfully. Yeah and you know what i mean. Wait wait wink. Wink wink wink key bit been a so quits. My also quick well as wanna so crispy chow.

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TYT Extended Clip - April 22th, 2020

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TYT Extended Clip - April 22th, 2020

"Sperry jot I wrote. Wait a minute. Words John Zarrella. Today's Wednesday we're supposed to have we're supposed to roll with IDA Rolla okay. I'm going to explain. That is kind of a slightly weird day or K. I'm here but I'm not here. A John and Anna are going to do the show but yet here I am weird or as my kids would say window So it is in fact Earth Day hence the Earth Day specialist idol is gonNA come in here a couple of minutes and has my shirt bread. Show my shirt brother. Okay look this green new deal. Typ's in there okay. That's a part that's green. That's earth that shop. Typ DOT COM. I don't understand anyone who doesn't immediately by that shirt I just don't get it it. It's a pretty cool design by the way on Monday. There was as I was walking after the show around the neighborhood This little girl was like happy Earth Day as I was walking by and I was like Earth Day. Today's not Earth Day and then I remembered that it was four twenty and her parents were probably talking about how it was four twenty and she overheard and ask questions and they're like yeah today's Earth Day. That's the ticket. But you know along those lines that's right but first of all have been on all school. Few Su. He thought four twenty was hurt. They could be just normal confusion but one what we're absolutely sure of. Its its Green League was four. Twenty go green there Wednesdays Earth. They go green their aspiration. Dot Com slash. Ty T. plant. Ten trees go green. They're not saying they just said. Oh are and anyway you get a lot of stories but I came on for one. Other reason was telling by the way twenty percent off at shop to it dot com. So you get this shirt and get our we shirt. Get whatever shirt you want go nights. It's it's store watt twenty percent off site-wide one of these thugs doing over. You gotta use the Code Earth Day Day or Gay So shopped Eddie Documenta. You got to go nuts backpack okay so now the second so yesterday. We asked you guys to get us to a hard goal in our audience. Funny we're trying to get to one hundred and forty three thousand fifty three dollars because at that point Joe From La. Who's an awesome guy? Who I'm going to debate the big reveal coming today. Who SHOW FROM LA? I know you're excited. He's GonNa get an extra fifty thousand dollars which is a lot of money too but he knows a young person needed the progressives needed and we need that voice out there right now. We need that beacon out there. That's why he's doing because he cares about the movement and so Yesterday we were quite a distance from one forty three. Did we gift? They're listening On in an e. A WE'RE ON. We're on it so so we got past it so. Ty T. dot com slash. Go now when we pass it. We said we're going to add an extra fifty thousand from John L. A. Go ahead then and then it all right so we're trying to get the two thousand every I've but what we're doing is we're carrying over the extra for the next month so we actually started this month with over fifty thousand because that was carried over from March precursor virus. Let's keep it going keep it going. Let's roll it into may so please. This is so important. It's to keep us sustainable. It's to keep us healthy to keep that light in the darkness glowing and and making sure that we're finding progresses in that message out there and then finally so who is Joe from La. I've been kind of kidding around about it. Teasing is about who it is and I said some of you might figure it out and some you did figure it out. You're right it's Joe Sandberg. He is a wonderful progressive. He is champion of the earned income tax credit that helps the working poor. He has held literally millions of people with the legislation he helped pass and then marketed here in California and then he took that campaign nationwide. He's also one of the original investors in Blue Apron. Which now a lot of you're using in this situation But he's also a CO founder of aspiration DOT COM so in aspirin as you know is a wonderful progressive financial institution. We talk about it on the show. All the time as it's not the point of this But he gives you a sense. Oh look you know. You have wealthy folks in the country by a joke. Grew up very poor. So that's that's part of why he is a great guy and is a progressive and went through all that and knows it and still feels that I talk about that with mealtime when I was poor man. It was incredible struggle when I was for you. And we we all have if you're good people you have a little bit of. Ptsd from being poor and you WanNa make your help others enjoy. Does a fantastic job of that. So we really appreciate him at chipping into other progressives want to do that. Bless your heart that would be amazing. Ty T. dot com slash go So anyway love you guys. Let's please please keep her going because it keeps the lights on and it's so important in these tough tough times and obviously he can't give please. Don't make sure you take care of yourself your family and loved ones. I but if you can. Let's keep the progressive voice strong. Thank you guys and thank you. Joe Samba definitely. I want to double down on my gratitude. Not only for helping to keep us afloat but you know what that translates to is. Freedom editorial freedom the ability to speak our minds without worrying about any type of retaliation from advertisers or anything. So thank you so much Joe's incredible for helping out the way that he has but that doesn't take away from all of the incredible audience members. Who have also chipped in hearing what you guys have sacrificed just to help us out. It means a lot and you know number. One should be taking care of you but the fact that you guys have chipped in to keep us. Afloat means the world to us. Oh thank you. Yeah and that's the great thing about Joe There's never any strings attached. He's like you guys do what you do. I love it. It's you get the progressive message out. There everybody wins But I WANNA double down on what? Nsf Two guys. It was a matching grant. If you guys didn't put in at any we couldn't have gotten it fifty thousand and it wouldn't have been match so I you know I love that you guys did any whether it was a thousand bucks with some folks said I love you for it but or whether it was three bucks look if sometimes three bucks is more than other people can afford a thousand bucks so so thank you so much. Thank you for believing in us. Thank you for helping us to get aggressive message out all right. Thank you John When we come back from the break we're going to have John Zarrella joining and we have some breaking news about a shakeup. In the trump administration was up everyone. Welcome back to Anna Cast Burian and John Ida Rolla with you. John How are you doing? Oh I'm just the best. How're you Anna? I'm doing okay I'm I'm surviving all surviving. Yeah you you are a resident Climate change expert and it's Earth Day. You've done some pretty great interviews for your Earth Day special. Do you WanNa talk about that. Real quick before we move onto the stories I sure sure I mean I I will say I. I'm a terrible self. Promoter Salsa the luck of speaking with climate change experts. I'll put it that way But yeah I got sucked to to bill. Mckibben and some of the leaders of some of the the best youth Climate Change Organizations Founders Sunrise Movement founder of Zero Hour And we talked about not only the sort of state of things but but much more importantly going forward. What can we do in general but especially when it comes to the climate when it comes to the Environment? What can we as individuals do? What can we expect that? Some of the the most influential and most passionate and aggressive Climate change organizations are going to be doing and so I I think it was a very very helpful for me. Personally to stay inspired. I think I if this is an issue that you care about it will be inspiring to you too if it's non-issue that you care about what the. Hell's wrong with you so everyone make sure you check out John's Earth Day special. That will air immediately after this hour of the show So it'll be at four. Pm Pacific Time Seven PM Eastern time. all right. Well let's move onto some breaking news so Dr Rick Bright. Who was the director of the Federal Agency? Leading the charge to find a vaccine for corona virus had been removed from his position by the trump administration and essentially demoted to what he has referred to as a less impactful role and in an open letter to the Public He has made clear that he believes that. This has been retaliation due to the fact that he has been resistant toward using congressionally appropriated funds on acquiring drugs that he feels are not scientifically proven to treat corona virus drugs like chloroquine and hydroxy chloroquine in his letter. And I'm going to read you a few excerpts. He wrote unfortunately this resulted in clashes with hhs political leadership including criticism for my protective efforts to invest early in vaccines and supplies critical to saving American lives. I also resisted efforts to fund potentially dangerous drugs promoted by those with political connections so he specifically called out the hydroxy Clark Promotions. During these press conferences he says specifically and contrary to misguided directives. I limited the broad use of chloroquine and hydroxy clerk win promoted by the administration as a panacea but which clearly lack the scientific merit while. I'm prepared to look at all options and think outside of the box for effective treatments. I rightly resisted efforts to provide an unproven drug on demand to the American public. I insisted that these drugs be provided only to hospitalize patients with confirmed cove in one thousand nine hundred. While under the supervision of a physician these drugs have potentially serious risks associated with them including increased mortality observed in some recent studies in patients with covert nineteen and. He's absolutely right. Sweden has completely stopped using hydroxy chloroquine for Kobe. One thousand nine patients in Brazil. They had to stop a study. That used the drug on a corona virus patients because many of them developed severe heart conditions. Some of them also died a result of the side effects connected to the drug looking rational world the fact that he was pushed out after apparently at least from this account doing the right thing would provide a little bit of solace it would Helped to boost his reputation In reality likely just results in the Republicans attacking him more viciously because not only was he cast out by the trump administration which means that like chum thrown in the ocean. A right winger has to attack that target to prove their loyalty But also he was right about something scientific and so he has to be destroyed there. There were two sorts of people like this whole time for the past month. Both in of media and in terms of doctors there were the people who are urging caution while usually tinged with hope. Hope that this would be the miracle drug that people were saying but we understood the side effects that we can read. I don't need to be a doctor to know that you know causing fatal heart arrhythmias a bad thing. And there were the people both medium doctors fake doctors Dr Oz Dr Phil stuff like that. Who were pushing it and pretending that it was this. Lazarus like cure one hundred percent and all of that and so it turns out that The people who are urging caution were wise to do so the doctors in the media. And we'RE GONNA get an apology from other people acknowledgement that we were right now. We're not GONNA get anything like that in fact you're probably GONNA lose your job if they're in a position of power over you and you were right about this. It is more inconvenient to them that you were right. Then that the drug doesn't work one other thing. That he mentioned quite a bit in his letter was cronyism and so there is. You know he's implying that there are financial interests in promoting this drug. That is not scientifically proven to actually help with Corona virus in fact the studies that we've seen so far provide limited data for some possibility that it could help under some circumstances but in most cases people do suffer from serious heart condition serious side effects and look the other side of this. Is You know or the other. Negative impact of what the trump administration is doing. Is that hydroxy? Chloroquine is a drug that lupus patients rely on in order to stay alive. Lupus patients in the United States have had a hard time filling their prescriptions because of what Donald Trump has irresponsibly said about the drug during his press conferences. And it's also uses a malaria drug. And anytime anyone has the audacity to question Donald Trump or other members of the administration Anytime their power or their financial interests are threatened by the truth. They just get rid of the person who sharing the truth. And in most cases people who speak out against the administration do so under you know anonymity or they'll speak off the record with reporters in this case. Dr Rick Bright is like you're not going to silence me. I'm GONNA come out. I'm going to tell the country what's actually going on. And what happened to me? In one part of his letter he said sidelining me in the middle of this pandemic and placing politics and cronyism ahead of science put lives at risk and stunts national efforts to safely and effectively address. This urgent public health crisis. And he's absolutely right. He's like I'm not going to shut up because lives are on the line here and I'm sure he's well aware of how the trump administration is gonNA treat him moving forward in super fast. I I just have one of the things that say like they wanted to present themselves. Look I got this thing this thing. That's going to be amazing. And they're telling you not. There's not going to be amazing but I'm telling you it's amazing so you should think of me as the person who's doing something right now and whether or not they're financially benefiting from pushing that it appears that some in the trump administration are. It was certainly a good distraction but it was also pointless from my point of view because there was an alternative that he could have been pushing. It's not a miracle drug. It doesn't cure one hundred percent of people but he could have been funding masks and gloves. Those sorts of things hospital gowns tests. He could have been doing a tour around the country delivering hand delivering photo-ops photo-ops Galore delivering. Pp to nurses around the country he could be reassuring people every day that he's going to be providing what hospitals need it would have both helped and would have helped him pragmatically in terms of appearing to actually care about this thing but he decided to go in the other direction. Didn't do either of those. That's exactly right because at the end of the day. It's not really about helping people and ensuring that he saves as many lives as possible and protects as many healthcare workers as possible. It's yes he cares about his reelection but more importantly what does he care even more about than getting reelected his money right so you know if there are financial ties which. I wouldn't be surprised if there were considering all of the conflicts of interest we've seen from Donald Trump already one of which we'll talk about later in the show today you know if he could a quick buck off of a tragedy like this. He will if his friends can make a quick buck off of a tragedy like this they will and that's really like at the heart of every decision this guy makes but I just I don't understand like he couldn't come up with some way to make money off of the traditional solutions like I'm confident that a con man Griff Ter- his talent and experience could have come up with some way to have benefited. And we're really you know we're going to write policies. We're having this conversation. About which way is the pandemic GonNa go in terms of his reelection? Are People going to rally around him and the flag because it's a disaster or they're gonNA see that lots of people are dying and turn away from him but he could have guaranteed. It would go in his direction if he did the very easy things that he's been told to do by doctors and he wouldn't even be spending his own money. You'd be spending our money to provide these supplies like do you have any doubt that if he'd aggressively protected. America from this pandemic that he wouldn't be reelected. I have no doubt I think that he certainly would get reelected. But he's not a sophisticated guy right so yes he's A. He's a grafter not the typical sophisticated political. Gifter that we're you're used to. And he wears his cruelty on his sleeve like he doesn't care about being painted as a cruel person being perceived as a cruel person that is who he is and he's proud of that and for a lot of his supporters. It's not the bug it's the feature which is why every time a story comes up about him being vicious to a journalist during his press conferences. I think that legacy media outlets get it wrong covering that only helps him with his base. They love it and he's GonNa keep acting this way because he's gotten away with it throughout his entire term so it's it's pretty devastating scary to see him. Get rid of Moore of the adults who are doing the right thing. We're trying to help us in the middle of this pandemic but we'll follow the story and you guys updates as it develops in other news today. Though I wanted to kind of fill you. In on more information we know about the protests that are springing up throughout the country politicians and advisers close to the trump administration. Donald Trump himself are helping to organize and mobilize some of these antisocial. Distancing protests were seeing throughout the country. Most of them are taking place in some of these swing states or specifically in states that have democratic governors and it turns out that one of the individuals on Donald. Trump's corona virus taskforce is like fanning the flames and. He's helping to organize it so the person I'm talking about is Stephen Moore and let me give you some details that the New York Times uncovered support for the protests features more direct ties to the White House. The administration recently formed an advisory group for reopening the economy that included Stephen Moore Moore had been coordinating with free works the Tea Party Patriots and the American Legislative Exchange Council in a coalition called. Save our country which is ironic ironically named which has formed to push for a quicker easing of restrictions. So here you have this guy who serving on trump's economic task force and why do you think he serving on that task force to begin with right like this is a guy who doesn't actually care about Americans or their lives? He does care about getting them back to work even though he knows that. It's likely that it's too soon to get people back to work. They'll risk their lives will reopen the economy and he'll he'll earn his short term profits. But we all know how this story ends. We all know that the the virus is likely to continue spreading. It will spread rapidly once. Some of these states reopen their local economy. And so I. It's it's devastating to see this guy behind the scenes you know obviously not interested in actual evidence or scientific data. He's just interested in getting people out there so he's helping to organize these groups and even bragged about it during a recent interview with Conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt. Let's hear what he had to say. Group in Wisconsin. That wants to do a drive in so you know you remember the old citizens but this could be a driver and they're gonNA shut down the capital Del. Anybody but they think they can get fifteen hundred people comment and This great you guys. So we have one big donor in Wisconsin. I'm not gonNA mention his name and I told her about the seaside Steve. I promise I will pay the bail legal fees for anyone who gets arrested. So this isn't great time gentlemen and ladies for civil disobedience. We need to be the Rosa Parks. Here had this man is absolute trash by the way he feels so strongly about these protests. Is he going to show up? Is HE GONNA protest? Is He gonNA put his life on the line? Well Moore said he would probably turn down an invitation to speak at the protest in Wisconsin. Because it's important that no one be under the impression that sponsored or directed by national groups in Washington except it's being mobilized organized by you and you are working for the White House right now in this Krona Virus Task Force disgusting. I believe he is being honest when he says it's important that there's not that perception but it is being organized by that. I mean look he. He's a great individual. I'm glad that you're pointing that out. There are others too. I mean devos obviously in terms of the state efforts in any number of other groups that have that have helped to provide these grassroots protests around climate denial or back in the day with the tea party. It's all the same. It's probably mostly the same people to and it's honestly it's most of the same issues. I mean extensively. They're out there. Because they care about the the state reopening but lots of just. They're out there to tote their guns around and talk about how the Second Amendment is so important like it's the same signs basically that they're coming out for I I love the the terminology. He used there the guy he was like. You know he thought I'm GonNa make comparison a rose parkway. Is that a good idea. It is a good idea. I'm going to do that. What if we were asking what so? Let tons of people gathering dangerously close Dressed like terrorists to the best extent that they can Toting assault rifles. That is the best of American participants. Participatory Democracy Civil Disobedience Kapernick nailing. Right out NAUTICA. I know it is expensive. It's offensive for him. The Neal he should've kneeled with a disease and spread it to the people around him. That would have been American patriotism. Yeah it's it's insane. I mean like the hypocrisy. We've always known that hypocrisy exists not just with Republicans politicians in general. We see it all the time. But Corona virus really amplified it because like the same people who are breaking their local laws in going out there and protesting refusing to practice. Social distancing are typically the same conservatives. Who made you know like apologised arguments when Donald Trump's ridiculous horrific cruel policies at the border led to children dying in cages and the argument was well? They didn't follow the law. They didn't follow the law. So those kids. They deserve to die. Okay so you're not following the law in your state so if the state decides to take you know real retaliatory action against you do you deserve it. I mean it's just what I'm obviously using a euphemism here but like I wouldn't want those people to be gunned down or killed because they're breaking the law right like it's just they don't. They don't think that they have to abide by the same standards that they demand of people people who have absolutely no power whatsoever and it's gross and this is more this is yes of course about reopening local economies getting everyone back out there and working but it's also about helping Donald trump with his reelection campaign. 'cause The New York Times reported these groups are sharing the data with advisors on the president's economic task force and other conservative allies on Capitol Hill and. They're collecting email addresses. They're collecting all sorts of data on the protesters who are taking part in this and they're sharing it with the trump campaign. Yeah this is how Republicans operate. Yeah and if I was one of those people like at some point you gotta realize like they are. I mean yes People get used by politicians all the time but like they're going to use you up almost literally like they're willing to see you die for their own economic and political benefit hypothetical benefit. They're not even sure it's a risk. It's probably not going to help the economy anyway. But you know what? It's worth a chance because it doesn't take anything for me no sacrifice. The risk is all on you. I'm GonNa Watch the stock market if it goes up. Good I can recoup some of my money if not. I'll just wait. Which was what I was going to do. Anyway I'm certainly not gonNA leave my house. You know. I might be politically savvy enough to not pose in front of my massive ice cream freezer. But I've got one it's well-stocked and I can wait while you guys get ground up by this disease. I can wait. That's him just to be clear. I don't exactly know of course all right. Well let's talk about how this all manifests in like Georgia. So Georgia's Governor Brian. Kemp is currently in the process of opening his state up and loosening social distancing guidelines And this is going to be a complete utter disaster especially since recent data indicates that the number of corona virus deaths has gone up the number of who have contracted the virus in the state of Georgia has gone up and doesn't seem to really hinder any of the efforts. That camp has in reopening the state so just to give you some background on. What he's doing he plans on reopening. It makes no sense to me. Things like movie theaters gyms hair salons the types of places where you can't help but be in close contact with people and so just to give you the numbers since April first Georgia averages seven hundred sixty four new cases and a thirty five deaths per day. The State reported though nine hundred nine new cases and eighty five deaths on Monday when Kemp announced plans to ease these restrictions and just to be a little more detailed and specific establishments including gyms bowling alleys body. Art Body Art Studios here designers and nail care artists could reopen for minimum basic operations from next Monday. Movie theaters can start. Selling tickets and restaurants will no longer be limited to take out options although they must still adhere to social distancing guidelines. So go ahead John. I want to hear what you have to say about. How how how are almost any of those supposed to adhere to social distancing guidelines? Okay so let's go. Nail Care Artists going to be difficult to do. Someone's nails from six feet. I've tried I haven't figured out a way to do it. Yeah feeders okay. It'd be six feet away that means you could fit ten people in a theatre. Maybe I duNno restaurant couple tops. I honestly I don't know because they'd be to close. It would have to be very long table it would have to be like royalty basically across the room for me. It's so stupid. I am really worried John. We have the longest tables. People didn't even understand how long The best case scenario here best case scenario is Brian. Kemp OPENS UP THE STATE. And nobody goes just like when one of these right wing Talkers does show a at a university campus. Best case scenario there's no protests because nobody's there Yeah have opened up a theater and have it not have a single person. It honestly these. Here's probably aren't GonNa want to open up. Because do you want to be the movie theater that we find out? A couple of weeks later is traced back to a bunch of people dying from Krona virus. Do you want that to be the memory that people have your movie theater or if you're well. I'm glad you art studio. You're you gotTA central sleeves. You GotTa do maybe even if it kills someone. Does anyone think that well. I'm glad that you mentioned that John. Because one of the things the trump administration wants to do is offer protections for businesses that might face lawsuits by individuals who contract the virus including their workers by the way who contract the virus and suffer the consequences of that. That's the way Republicans think it's about going out of their way to ensure that the economic system that they've benefited from so handsomely is intact it's protected but the very people who make those businesses run in the first place the workers get no protections and have no legal recourse if they find themselves in a disastrous situation by contracting the virus. It's just this is. This is the way that they think and I it's it's GonNa end so poorly because what they keep citing Republicans keep citing is. Oh well if you look. At the reports. The actual number of deaths ended up being much less than what we previously expected. Which means that we're fine. Everyone's over exaggerating. We need to get back to work. Yeah but like. Why are you pretending? Like we haven't been social distancing for over a month now. Is it over a month almost a month now in most cases might be over? Yeah it's going to be it's hopefully again. Hopefully nobody actually goes out there. But if not then you know. Start the timer right. Now we're GONNA see in fifteen nineteen days How many people are getting day? Assuming that three even doing the testing because Sort of guy that would open up the state way. Premature is also the sort of guy that would be hindering every effort whatsoever to get testing to the level it needs to be and so people will get it in a couple of weeks. People are going to have corona virus. Lots of them. We might or might not actually know about it. Yeah and look. Luckily the majority of Americans including Republicans about seventy percent of Republicans according to polling. Do worry about loosening. Those restrictions. Too early I spoke to family in Florida and urged them to ignore their own governor. And Luckily they were on the same page. So people see what's happening. Some of the important information is getting through even to conservative voters And I just WanNa be clear that what we're seeing what. These protests throughout the country is not representative of public opinion with these conservative groups are trying to do is sway public opinion in the direction of opening the economy. Backup but most people are skeptical of that. Luckily all right well. I want to reset for the second half of the story because Brian Kemp. Luckily did face some tough questions for Martha maccallum. And I didn't expect that I got. I got to keep it honest. We've seen so much propaganda on Fox News that usually expect them to do softball interviews with people like Kemp but that was not the case here. So Georgia governor. Brian Kemp is reopening his State even though the number of Kobe nineteen infections and deaths has increased considerably in Georgia and so he wanted to defend his decision to reopen restaurants nail salons hair salons tattoo parlors and. He tried to do so on Fox News but he was met with some tough questions. Let's take a look now so Monday. So we can have time to educate the public in the business owners that this is just not handing them the keys back to go back to where we were. This is going to measure approach with a lot of different requirements and guidance. So we're going to be putting out you can you? Can you tell me what you mean by that? So for instance it does is it in Atlanta if someone wants to get their nails done or their hair done on Friday and or a tattoo or go to a gym. I mean these are very close contact kinds of businesses. That are the first ones on your list. Can you explain why you would start with those kinds of businesses on Day One? Well those are the ones reclosed other businesses. George you're still currently opening under the order that I have now and we're coming down that thing that's what a lot of people don't understand but you also have to give that fitness owner or that owner and a hair salon the ability to be able to be a partner in this fight that we're in you know they're gonNa have to follow the strict guidelines. I I would tell you that. Awesome imagine there'll be people in gyms it'll be a lot safer than they would be going to the grocery store or some of the other places of business that are part of the critical infrastructure. That's been designated at the federal level. You know this is GonNa take some common sense. John this is going to take some common sense. You know the kind of common sense where he didn't realize that as symptomatic individuals could spread the virus that kind of common sense he was unaware of even though we knew about that since January and the kind of common sense that would tell you that. nail salons and hair salons can practice social distancing somehow. Yeah Yeah I was amazed a few weeks back when we found out that he just found out that a symptomatic individuals could spread the disease. I think a photo of question would be. Does he still no? I'm not sure I think that he's forgotten. Since the beginning of the month and he an argument there that people would be safer working out at the gym than they would at a grocery store. Which sort of reminds me of the arguments where people are like. Well you know. Less people have died of this disease than die of the flu. I don't think these people get that. It's not like the worst thing is the only thing. Yeah you maybe. It'd be safer at the gym that the supermarket but you still have to go to the supermarket. You can't eat your weight's so now you're going to go to both of those things okay. The Corona virus deaths don't suddenly mean that we don't have regular flu debts. We have both of them and so the person who gets their nails done and then gets a cool tattoo also has to buy groceries only now they might not just be leaving the grocery stores they might be bringing something something that they got in a tattoo parlor that they didn't need to be at. We said the yeah. I know it's amazing and by the way just to emphasize that point you made about the the regular flu. The flu as we've known it. In addition to corona virus. This is something that the. Cdc Director is very concerned about because believe it or not. We got lucky in that. The number of flu cases was already declining. When the number of Corona virus cases Began to increase right. So what happens in our healthcare system if people are suffering from both simultaneously and so Robert Redfield. Who's the CDC director said? There's a possibility that the assault of the virus on our nation next winter will actually be more difficult than the one we just went through. Redfield said that the United States was spared a much worse Kobe. Nineteen outbreak because the krona virus hit the nation when the seasonal flu was already on the decline had they hit at the same time he was quoted as saying it could have been really really really really difficult in terms of health capacity. And we do have this for profit. Healthcare system where hospitals have decided that it's not profitable to have the number of beds we need in in case a pandemic hits and so we work prepared in so many different ways but luckily I guess I mean. This is the silver lining The number of seasonal flu cases was on the decline when Corona virus became an issue. And I don't often hear professionals like this. Us really really really really but it seems like we should pay attention. Definitely are we gotta take a break when we come back? We have more news for you including some drama with the upcoming stimulus. Coming out of Congress Mitch. Mcconnell thinks it's okay for states to go bankrupt. That's the kind of goon he is. And we'll give you the details on that and more when we come back. Hey guys welcome back tea white tea. Anna Cast Burian. And John Rollo with you. I do have member comments but I'M GONNA go ahead and Save Them for our post game show today just because there are two stories. I really want to get to. I think it's important especially this next one. So all of a sudden Mitch. Mcconnell is pretending to be concerned about the national debt and he decided to share his concern as soon as Senate Democrats like Chuck Schumer brought up the necessity for an additional stimulus. Bill that actually helps fund state states in their efforts to combat corona virus and also helps to provide some economic relief to average Americans who clearly have not received the financial help that they've needed through the first stimulus. Bill now Schumer told Democratic senators in a conference a conference call that there will be a phase for bill and he also said we will need a big strong and active. Cova for a meeting. Coverted stimulus package four It will have to come very soon and needs are large and great so look. He's right in that. I wish that there was a little more of a fight in the Senate because as we reported yesterday the Senate did agree on their version. The next stimulus package which does not have the funding for states. Democrats claim that they're fighting for and so that's a huge issue But it's also a huge issue is. They're losing the messing fight because they are coming off. This is my analysis. People might disagree. But in their failure to get the concessions that they needed from Republicans they have positioned themselves or at least made themselves in be perceived as weak and then at the same time. Republicans are messaging that. Democrats were stalling. They were the ones who are holding up the bill at a time that you know. People are in desperation. Businesses are in desperation. Small businesses. Need this money. And so you have the Mitch. Mcconnells of the world going out there and making it seem like Democrats are the bad guys would in reality. Republicans are fighting hard to just keep bailing out failed corporations and companies now. We needed additional money into additional funding for the small businesses. But as we know a lot of that money ended up going to companies that are not actually small businesses so unfortunately Democrats were also losing the messaging war right now and they should be amplifying. What I'm about to play for you. This is Mitch. Mcconnell basically telling Hugh Hewitt that these states don't deserve any help because they offer these pensions to their workers and we don't like that take a look at the state. Governments are going to be smashed up by this but there is no chapter eight in the bankruptcy code. Who are you going to Ta- for States No states can go bankrupt. Local governments can go bankrupt and reorganize. Who are you going to task to lead the effort on deciding what to do or not to do for the states? Yeah well I think it's going to be a broad discussion without you know throughout the conference. I'm we all represent as we all have governors regardless of party. Who would love to have money? And that's why I said yesterday we're GonNa push the pause button here because I think this whole business of additional assistance or State. Local governments needs to be thoroughly evaluated. You raise yourself. The important issue of much has done. Many of them have gone to themselves with their pension programs. there's not gonna be any desire on the Republican side to bail out state. Pensions Borrowing money from future generations so this is a much bigger conversation. It's incredible because those pensions that people work and contribute to their pensions. Like the way that the way that Mitch McConnell frames this is just so disgusting. And if Republicans can have their way if people like Mitch McConnell could have their way regardless of what job you do even if it involves backbreaking labor. You will work till the day you die. Screw retirement screw your pension. Who Cares if you have a state that has you know a a well thought for a pension for their state employees? Well we're going to go ahead and retaliate. By not bailing you out bailing the state out helping the state out during this pandemic even trillions of dollars are going to these massive corporations in the form of bailouts. Yeah it's I mean. It's it's really amazing. In several different ways one the propensity of Donald Trump to betray those who have shown the most loyalty and support to him has now trickled down to the rest of the Republican Party. And so is he screwed over. Democratic Governors. Yes is he also screwing over Republican governors? Yes if I was a Republican Governor. Who is looking at the possibility that my state is going to be devastated by the economic ramifications of this as well as the mounting death toll which also if. I'M JUST BEING CRAVEN. Politician is going to hurt my chances of being reelected because sure maybe donald trump is immune to the responsibility of presiding over a horrendous situation. But other politicians probably aren't going to have that sort of protection. I would be incredibly frustrated with the Republican Party nationally. If I was a Republican governor and I was seeing that I mean it should be clipped out all the time the idea that we should help states should be very carefully evaluated. The help that they need is is pretty clear. And not that difficult to come by. I mean I understand. They don't WanNA hand over a ton of money even though the one hundred percent should they don't even want to fund testing kits as if the worst case scenario that they are trying to avoid. Is We get to the end of the corona virus? And it's like there's like a pile of testing kits. Oh that was such a waste disaster. We don't have. We don't have to use these testing kits for. That's really what they're acting. I acting like I agree with you. That to the extent that the Democrats can completely flood the messaging around this. They've done for the most part They've done that. I mean they've passed a few bills that were never going to get past the Senate I mean that's pretty good but you know it's going to pass the Senate What is protecting them is that it's always the thing that protects horrible Democrats is that the Republicans are so obviously cruel in disinterested in protecting the lives of their potential voters that that starting starting to stick and the evaluation of the response has been dipping overtime. That's only GonNa get worse as we pass. What maybe tomorrow we pass fifty thousand deaths. I mean yesterday. We had more than two thirds of nine eleven the day before that we had about two thirds of nine eleven. We're pretty pretty much. Averaging every two days we passed the nine eleven totally unnecessary corona virus deaths. And if you are in charge of the Republicans are in virtually every aspect of American governance. Some people are gonNA reasonably put that on you and so that might protect some of these Democrats from completely wasting this opportunity wasting both in terms of potentially helping people and also helping themselves to get back into power and look is. This is the reason why I brought up the Pelosi ice cream video on the show because it's not about demonizing someone who has wealth. It's about the optics that come through when you're already losing that messaging war when it comes to Helping average Americans in this fight but it just it just like emphasizes to people that the party isn't really looking out for them that it's all talk because on that same day twenty. Two million people were reported to have filed for unemployment. Not all on that same day but it was reported that twenty two million people filed for unemployment as a result of corona virus. And so it's just so tone deaf to put a video like that. But look I want to go back to a genuine bad guy and Mitch McConnell because if you think the first video that we showed you was bad get a load of this. I think people do not understand how badly mismanaged some states have been in their unfunded liabilities and if they were in the private sector they would have to reorganize under the bankruptcy code but there is no bankruptcy. Code Chapter. Do you think that we need to invent one for State? So that they can discharge some of these liabilities that were put in place by previous governors. Like I mean Jerry. Brown ran ran a giveaway program for public employee unions. That was just astonishing and as did Gray Davis as a lot of democratic governors of Illinois. Probably the worst in Connecticut. They've just given money away for years to people who aren't working. I'm I would certainly be in favor of allowing. Stacy is the bankruptcy at Route if save some and there's no good reason for it not to be available. It's amazing so he is advocating for states to go bankrupt. Don't look to US FOR HELP. Even in the middle of a pandemic and it's it's just so devastating because think about how many of these working Americans Pay Their taxes. They don't get these freebies in their Federal Income Tax Mitch. Mcconnell had absolutely no problem with ten trillion dollars in tax cuts for the wealthy. I'm sorry two trillion dollars in tax cuts for the wealthy over the next ten years. No problems with that right. He has no problems with trillions of dollars in bailouts for massive corporations but when it comes to helping the little guy when it comes to ensuring that states stay afloat now. They should file for bankruptcy. Yeah and in from the very beginning of this before it hit him. Before it hit America there has been fundamental disagreement between the people who fear worst case. Scenario is lots of people die. The people who fear worst case scenario the stock market really gets hit and You know before they took it seriously before was here. They said that we were hyping. It up to hurt the stock market. Remember that we just want to. I hate my 401k. I WANNA destroy it That's what they said. They didn't want to do the lockdowns because that would hurt businesses now. There are restarting early to try to help. Businesses and the one of the most tragic things second only to forty five thousand Americans dying already. Is that the exact tactics that we have been advocating for from before the first American deaths of Corona virus not only would have saved those lives but also would have been the best possible strategy to limit the economic damage to limit how long we need to be in quarantine to allow us to resume normal life with the protections necessary to make sure that we don't have a double dip double peak. I should say it was all there the whole time and they fought us as a result. Many many people have lost their lives and far more are likely to ended. Economic damage has been as bad as possible. Now they've been able to stem a bit of it in terms of how it affects them but didn't have to be this way it didn't it didn't have to be this way and just to be clear. Some of the proposals that Chuck Schumer is demanding are good proposals. He just needs to fight for it. One of the most important things that we need to provide two essential workers is hazard pay. They are putting their lives on the line to go out there and do their jobs so enough with like the sweet. Talk about how they're heroes. How about treating them like their heroes. How about treating them like they're human beings and so has your pays a big part of what Chuck Schumer's fighting for should be fighting for. He's proposing it and of course there are needs for state funding and Additional help for everyday Americans who aren't able to work right now. They want two thousand dollars a month for the next six months recurring payments so people are able to pay their bills that one time bill was not enough but anyway we have more on this in the post game become a member of TYP DOT COM slash. Join everyone else definitely check out John's Earth Day special. We'll see you soon.

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I kept in one or sometimes governor dating someone and manages to communicate in my all of a sudden. We want to say that she could immediacy without. You fail to understand what what happened to know. Sometimes you know the guy is burning inside but now is still trying to find out how he is. He going to deliver this news to you because at the same time. We're going to be having these things over to who should ovum chiwetel alone because Nasr blisters extended. No No. No I can talk on a being Gaga and it's an accident which all all the moon she dead. Soya were not so so. Those are some of the secrets is like an entire Niagara has because I like talking to a lot of people and sharing like bunk. Sherry eateries are some poems. It's experience that I I like. I go through as witching by Apache wine. I won't own down now. God's going to saw so. Yeah so Jonah issues. I think almost becoming I had guys. We have clear so that's going to be most coffee shop. 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Divide Forms In Republican Party

The Young Turks

1:00:42 hr | 2 years ago

Divide Forms In Republican Party

"Hey guys you've heard of the young Turks podcast because you're listening to right now but make sure that you subscribe and give it a five star rating if you like it thank you for listening turns. Your graddick is very but the bad at that okay look <hes> No. I'm I'm pumped up man. I'm ready to go. Are you. Give me two days on the full show. I'm Rarin right so I'm out of habit today so look do heroes cigarette is so they can do the Monday show and taking early morning on Thursday so they can come back on Thursday. I don't no no I don't know I mean actually I do aren't heroes. They're just regular people okay all right. Okay okay so okay look. I'm happy that you're not you know lazy like John Zarrella who decided to not take the red. I and it was not here on Monday. Forcing my crew on the main show to have to work double time. Just just say I'm just kidding by the way it's crazy. It's crazy to do what what Jank does. It's not healthy right so I'm glad that John did what he did but I am a little bitter about it. That's right. I am not healthy. Okay anyways <hes> all kidding guide. We're going to have a great show for you guys today and then at nine o'clock eastern I would be on Cuomo now. Get a load with this drums. I'm going to be debating Barack. Obama's record got it. Thank Barack Obama. I'm like well one day one day. No Bakari sellers will be defending Barack Obama's record. I will be critiquing from the left the so that actually might be the first time in television history where that is no. Actually I used to do it on M._S._N._B._C.. Oh Yeah how'd that turn out anyway so let's get to it because we got a lot to critique not today including of course Donald Trump yes. This story should concern. Everyone who actually believes in Justice Donald Trump has ordered the Pentagon and top military Terry officials to rescind metals that had been given to individuals who were part of the prosecution of a navy seal now. This navy seal will was acquitted of premeditated murder charges but I'm sure you've heard of him. Navy Seal Eddie Gallagher is his name but he was found guilty of one one of the charges and I'm going to give you the details in just a moment but first here's what Donald Trump had tweeted the prosecutors who lost the case against Seal Eddie Gallagher who I released from solitary confinement so he could fight his case properly were ridiculously given a navy achievement medal not only did they lose the case they had difficulty with respect to information that may have been obtained from opposing lawyers and forgiving immunity in a totally incompetent fashion I have directed did the Secretary of the Navy Richard Spencer and Risher and chief of naval operations John Richardson to immediately withdraw and rescind the awards now now look understand what he's doing here. This is a political move and it is a a way it is a punitive measure against lawyers who prosecuted prosecuted someone who was facing serious charges and he was facing those serious charges because his own peers his own navy seals turned him in so let me give the details on that gallagher was turned in by members of his own seal platoon who accused him of stabbing captured and wounded teenage fighter repeatedly heatedly in the neck with a custom hunting knife in two thousand seventeen he was also charged with obstruction of justice for threatening to kill the seals who reported him so those are serious charges from again his peers other members of the military who thought that his actions were inappropriate. So what did trump WANNA do like not not investigate this not have lawyers prosecuted exactly yes. That is an incredibly dangerous precedent to set okay so let's break this found one by one first of all the president interfering in these situation is terrible to begin with right. I mean imagine if Obama stepped in and said I want to rescind medals given to some of our soldiers or troops right wing would have lost their minds Gary you you the service and by the way from a coward who ran for Vietnam five different times five different departments. Oh both of ours bows Moore's commander in both Spurs now recinding metals metals. Are you kidding me. That's step one step. Two is look a message that he sent me commit war crimes and and he says I'm doing exam patriotic. No you're not you're saying that the other seals all other seals who turned him in our liars and and and you're you're insulting all those heels he threatened to kill the other seals if they turned him in so and now the president you've said says hey go murder at will against the laws and of course that's stem three is doesn't respect the rule of law ever ever doesn't believe in our judicial system and doesn't believe in the government but go back to step two and the problem with that issue is then you say not only should you commit commit war crimes but you should also threaten a murder your fellow troops if they are going to turn you in and follow the law. I couldn't get worse. He's he's just such a I mean he's a monster eighteen different ways and if he continues like this and now whether you get a medal or you don't get a medal becomes political based on the tweets the president and the president is encouraging them to be lawless. Let alone war crimes but just lawless in general. Oh there are no rules left anymore. Well our military is going to rapidly deteriorate. That's exactly right so so look understand what I'm saying. Yes there's this story and the facts of this particular case case but what's more important is the message it sends two members of the military who might commit war crimes and the message it sends to prosecutors. Don't you dare try to get to the bottom of of what the reality is. Don't you dare prosecute someone who might have committed war crimes <hes> the president is now taking punitive measures against these prosecutors and by the way look this story has all sorts of twists and turns that I do want to get to as I mentioned several of the the Navy seals turned him in they are the individuals who were concerned about it but there was one <hes> person who testified one of the Navy seals who testified <hes> actually he's a medic who he changed his story and <hes> he was a witness that was called on by the prosecution right so this was a twist twist in the case that I want to share with you. His name was Corey Scott. He testified on behalf of the Prosecution that Gallagher had indeed stabbed the prisoner with a hunting knife however ever during cross examination he revealed that he put his thumb over a breathing tube after gallagher stabbed the wounded fighter causing his death by his fixation now that that was the surprise twist <hes> during the testimony the prosecutors didn't expect because again he changed his his story completely when he went up there. <hes> one other thing to consider is that <hes> you know there was a lead prosecutor who had to be taken off the case because he had basically spied spied on the defense attorneys and that made him disqualified but he is not one of the individuals who earn any type of metal or any type of recognition gallagher was also convicted he was convicted of only a single charge related to posing for photos with the body of the teenage captive. He was sentenced to four months confinement and a reduction in rank to special operator first class and one of the reasons why it was difficult to find him guilty is because there was no body they were unable to do an autopsy so there there's no way to verify what that testimony was. When the you know the witness changed his testimony last minute so there's a co- more issue's about the facts of the case but let's establish facts number one? I don't I get why there was an acquittal on the serious charges. I I don't think I would have voted that way. But would I wasn't on the jury so you have to be on the jury and here and here the whole case and be sure that he's guilty beyond a reasonable doubt based on the available evidence even if the guy said well you know no what I associated the Guy Well Gallagher stabbed him a fifteen year old on the throat anyway trying to kill him. That's called attempted murder but I understand the complexities the case and I'm not arguing with the quill right but I believe in our system of government and I believe in our judiciary and our military unlike some people like like president trump he not only does not believe in our form of government. He also doesn't believe in the military why let's go to number two so you've got somebody's clearly clearly lying in this case and it isn't a bunch of Patriots and seals versus a bunch of libs. No it's one seal who's accused of doing the murder and other seal jumps in he goes Oh yeah. I murdered them together right after he stabbed him in the neck I then I made sure he couldn't breathe and then you've got about half. A dozen doesn't other seals who say no no we saw it we saw him stab the fifteen year old in the neck after we'd already captured him and there was no issue at all and we saw the murder order and then he threatened to kill us no and so we turn them in so president trump is calling a half a dozen seals liars and then he attacks tax other members of the military who prosecuted the case and then he gets in there and says Omra sending meadows of people that were in the military even though I don't know any of the facts of this case at all and he's got no business judging this whatsoever now he has the legal authority to do it so this is a rare situation where trump is not doing something illegal. It's just wrong long on the merits and devolves into lawlessness which apparently we now have in the seals exactly all right. Let's go back to the United States where where Moscow Mitch <hes> continues to make a fool of himself and this government while Mitch McConnell refuses to bring up any type type of legislation that passed in the house in order to protect U._S.. Elections <hes> there are some members of the G._O._P.. who were starting to openly support this legislation in the Senate now again Mitch Mcconnell over and over again has blocked this type of legislation and it's not a political ploy by the Democrats a lot of these bills that passed in the house were bipartisan bills? They were efforts in order to protect our elections from any type of foreign meddling again McConnell. It does not bring that up for a vote well. Susan Collins has openly said that she supports at least one of these bills and she's tweets the following Russia's this effort to interfere in our election elections remain relentless. I'm proud to join Senator Mark Warner in Co sponsoring the bipartisan fire act to require choir presidential candidates to immediately call the F._B._I.. If they are contacted by a foreign power attempting to target our elections now you might wonder wonder what is this I in response to well. It's probably in response to yes the two thousand sixteen election and the fact that there is overwhelming evidence that Russia attempted to meddle in our elections but also donald trump's interview with George Stephanopoulos relatively recently take a look your campaign this time out of foreigners if Russia China if someone else offers you information and opponent. Should they accept it should be called the F._B._i.. I think maybe you do both. I think you might WANNA listen. I don't there's nothing wrong with listening. If somebody called old from a country Norway we have information on your Oh. I think I'd WanNa hear you want that kind of interference in our elections. It's not interference have information. I think I'd take it if I thought there was something wrong I go maybe to the F._B._i.. If I thought there was something wrong yeah that's illegal ego and so even if it comes from Norway no okay and he just says outrageous outrageous things and things that are illegal all the time so we've gotten used to but we shouldn't <hes> and if you anyone else if you're running running for a local council or running for Congress if you're a progressive running for any seat in the country and no way to help you or China or any other country comes and gives you information. You must turn them into the F._B._i.. Okay and not accept information. It is illegal and I guarantee you. If you're a Democrat Democrat they will prosecute you for they. Don't care about hypocrisy at all so the legislation that was offered is incredibly benign nine. It is not at all controversial. There's McConnell couldn't even come up with a reason for why would be controversial. It just says you should follow the law. We we just want to be super clear that if you get information from a foreign government you cannot accept it. That's illegal. Everyone already knows that you must turn it in. You must turn it in right right so McConnell. Why are you opposed to that? You Know Oh yeah well. No Republicans voted for it and no Republicans are gonNA vote for it. Okay so you're all traders. That's not a reason that's not a policy. Let's see reason okay and by the way again their son to world's largest hypocrites if the Chinese came in as secretly tape Donald Trump doing whatever nasty things he does in his private life and then turned over the Democrats and it was like Oh yeah would trump be like oh no joke hey Bernie just wonder look at it. Look at it I mean it would be nonstop nonstop whining crying yelling screaming and they would not let it go for the next decade and my way no one should let it go for for several decades right. There's you're not supposed to take an exam anyway now. Mitch McConnell is only B._S.. Excuse oh well all of US Republicans. Don't WanNa follow the law well that just went away because Susan Collins said well look. I got a lot of pressure in a lot of money. Yesterday I might lose so I WANNA raise my hand and say yeah we should follow the law which by the way look I'm glad that she he came out and said that she would be supportive of this legislation should co-sponsor it but she still spineless because at the end of the day it's about your political career and nothing more. You don't care about protecting U._S.. Elections this shouldn't be a partisan issue and in the house. It's not a partisan issue in the house. I mean you have a bipartisan effort to to protect our elections. The fact that you have Republicans in The media it was addy bark and other progressive activists who were so mad as Susan Collins <hes> for voting yes on cabinet they raise four million dollars in fact it wasn't uneven about being mad. They said look if you vote yes on cavenaugh. It'll put a lie to the idea that you're a moderate Republican and you that means you're deeply conservative right winger right so in which case if people give money and progressives all across the country gave money then we will give it to your opponent and they raised four million dollars and so Susan Collins was originally with McConnell on this and reporters keep asking what is anybody at any Republican name a policy reason reason why you think it's okay to work with four actors and break the law now and I'm going to give you a policy reason as Susan Collins was in that camp and now all of a sudden she's got that four million dollars was hanging over her head and she feels a little bit more pressure because of polling etc that's happening and she's like okay fine. I don't WanNa break the law who made that happen you you did progressive activists made that happen. Nobody ever traces it back that of course at four million dollars hanging overhead and that's why she's making these decisions if you hadn't put that pressure on she definitely would have voted for with Meccano because she's been with them for six months on this issue exactly so I want to go to the second part of the story because it's the more amusing amusing part and I know that you're GonNa love it so Kentucky Democrats are going after Mitch McConnell and his unwillingness to bring up up legislation that would protect our elections for a vote he keeps blocking them and so they have decided to use the Hashtag Moscow Mitch to refer to him which has gotten under his skin. He's been very salty about it and they're also selling some merchandise so in one of the t shirts that they're selling the Kentucky Democratic Party is Hawking t-shirts with a barbed message just say net to Moscow Mitch so let's take a look at this face but that he does look like that. That's what he looks like. It'd be fair. That's they're being accurate so look. It's puzzling why he wouldn't allow for these in many cases says bipartisan bills to get voted on in the Senate again. This is all about protecting our elections. This is not an effort to destroy the Republican Party. You have Republicans supporting supporting it but there are some you know new story's popping up in places like politico that might give you some of the financial incentives antef behind why McConnell is doing what he's doing so according to politico two former top staffers to Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell Have Lobbied Congress and the Treasury Career Department on the development of a new Kentucky aluminum mill backed by the Russian aluminum giant Roussel. What an unbelievable coincidence students monk taught me that there are no coincidences but maybe there is I mean what a lucky break Moscow Mitch <hes> cod? He helps to get the sanctions lifted. He says you can work with a foreign government. I E Russia if they interfere with elections and then he gets a Russian plant in his home state of Kentucky but wait wait. There's more so more details attention over these sanctions relief deal has focused on McConnell given his role in halting a bipartisan partisan congressional effort in January to stop the penalties rollback so we specifically were specifically referring to the sanctions against Russia McConnell told reporters in May that his support for lifting the sanctions was quote completely unrelated to anything that might happen in my home state. Oh that's very likely true in fifty states to choose from it was like Hawaii Rhode Island contain black. I Guess Kentucky's the best thing I mean the fact that the majority leaders from Kentucky is going to help lift sanctions no drew it out of a hat out of fifty chance I mean it. Is I mean this story has everything that's wrong with politics right. You have the revolving door her of politics. You have his former staffers top staffers now working as lobbyists <hes> you know for essentially this project and then at the same time you have love Mitch McConnell. WHO's I'm sure concerned about his reelection? Chances <hes> doing what he thinks is going to be beneficial for the State of Kentucky Right and and by the way lifting the sanctions in order to allow for russian-backed businesses in your state is just a giant conflict of interest but it's allowed. It's allowed in American politics yeah look if there is no issue of <hes> the Russians having interfered in our elections and the sanctions being placed on them now. There's even people are concerned concern that some of this stuff might go to the Department of Defense and they're worried about that. I don't know how the aluminum would make a difference in the Department of Defense so I don't know that's a very strong case but <hes> you know I'd look into it more etc but like those are the issues it if you said Hey <hes> majority leader uses power to get a plant in his home state. That's that's normal politics. That isn't an issue at all. I mean if you worked with let's say Toyota and that's a Japanese company who cares but Japan didn't try to interfere here in our relations. They're not on the sanctions list. They're not the oligarchs working with Putin etc etc so that's why it's deeply problematic to do it in this way but I actually think think politico brace firm backyard did a great job. Yeah it really is in showing his two former staffers his ex chief cheapest staff and the guy in charge of trade policy <hes> go over and start working for lobbyists who are pushing to make this deal happen for the Russian company gene and another company that is now partners with the Russian company and again they go. That's just a wild coincidence and other coincidence in fact Mitch McConnell who's almost always prepared with some B._S.. Excuse it doesn't matter how thinner read it is on this one. He's like the first day lobby mead okay. Did they lobby me. We're going to get back to you on that. You're going to get back to political on that and you're GonNa let them print that. You don't have any excuse they lobbied you okay. That's certainly the implication and besides which guys who are we kidding here. You think McConnell doesn't note the two of his top staffers are lobbyists miss for the company that he just gave me a great deal to of course he does and his other staff knows and his staff knows they might get a job with those same lobbying companies later her that it's going to be very very lucrative if they make this deal. This is the swamp so if you voted for trump because you hate the swamp in Washington Mitch Komo is the head turtle in swamp definitely and one one final thing the Moscow Mitch thing is really getting under his skin. <hes> Dana millbank in the Washington Post wrote an opinion piece and titled it something along the lines of <hes> Mitch McConnell's a Russian asset that got under his skin skin. Listen pressure works and right now it might appear like we're just stressing him out but let's keep applying that pressure because at the end of the day the most important important thing is getting that bipartisan legislation passed to protect our elections. I'm glad you said that so one more thing about that. The reason is in wise. A little freaked out is because he's never really had to fight Democrats his whole career yet. They usually just surrender either right before the battle or the minute. The first shot is aspired politically schumer collapses in a pile right and so and the media is constantly establishment Democrat or an established probably like Yes sir absolutely only serve you say your staffers another new ser they obviously another new with it sir right and the fact of the media and the Democrats are not immediately collapsing has got to have a flaw mix. He's like well. I don't understand why didn't they surrender this is super weird and so that's why he's discombobulated and he's trying to withdraw his shell. All right we gotta take a break <hes> but when we come back we're going to do an economy related segment which I'm really excited about. 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Sunday nights at ten pm all right. Let's do it what what's next house trump. I'm screwing up the world now. Today is a peak moment of lunacy both at the Fed and on Capitol Hill with his budget bill. That's that's former Republican congressman David Stockman sharing his perspective on the Federal Reserve's decision to lower interest rates they lowered the interest rate by a quarter of a percent and this will actually have some significant ramifications based on experts. Now I want to be clear that was a former Republican Republican congressman and I've been watching some of his commentary about the economy for some time now and he in my opinion is right on the money. He's he's saying Kind of debt <hes> fueled the LARK and it's not helping the mainstream economy so there's two different issues here. One is the Republican I'm GonNa Hypocrisy has never been resolved the euro as so much tax cuts under Reagan George W Bush and and now trump that it can't possibly be ah paid for and spending cuts even if you cut the government to the bone and you said hey you know what social security and Medicare we lie to you guys we took your taxes all that time and now we're cutting drastically even then you couldn't pay for all the tax cuts for the rich right so they never resolved that in the Republican Party and there was always a lie so their policy was never to balance. How's the budget and that's why Republican presidents never do and yet a lot of the media goes along with that mythology? Oh Republicans are for balanced budgets really which one the last Republican presidents leave office with a balanced budget was Dwight Eisenhower so and so's Stockman has been actually fair and consistent on that for a long time so you just have to make up your mind are you is your priority tax cuts for the rich or is a balancing the budget and the jury's in on that for what the Republican priorities already so now there's a second problem which is specific to trump these tax cuts have overheated the market is created this giant bubble and and in that bubble you have what inflated prices because of the stock buybacks so the companies buy back their own stocks which increases their value artificially really without actually <hes> producing anything more or investing in themselves in fact one of the reasons the Fed cut the rate is they said we're worried that the companies are not not investing in themselves and that does not bode well for the future so later they will look back at this and go. Oh we should've known it was this is is a classic bubble. I mean it doesn't get any more classic than this but as we're in the middle of it everybody's going along except a few brave guys like Stockman. WHO's a Republican calling up the bubble and going it's GONNA pop? It's definitely GonNa pop yes in fact one of the interviews he had and this is prior to the Fed's decision to lower interest rates <hes> was when he cautioned about this pressure to have consumers borrow right so the idea is lower interest rates wages ages are are stagnant. We all know that <hes> and inflation continues to go up by the way lowering. Interest rates allows inflation to continue to go up so that's an issue but he said look the idea behind lowering interest rates is let's have the consumers continue borrowing more but they can't borrow more so he mentioned and I'm glad that there's someone talking about this on places like C._n._B._C.. He's specifically mentions that consumers are at peak debt. They can't take out any more debt so you have record for debt right now. <hes> coupled with stagnant wages and he's right the real economy isn't a lot of trouble. He's also right about one other thing. This trope help is out the lunch. He's an economic ignoramus on monetary policy exactly and he also talks a little bit about how look doc trump has his own interests in lowering the interest rates right because he's got a lot of debt a lot of adjustable bull rate debt and so yes and I'm not just saying that okay this is this is something that's been reported on in fact let's go to this next video talks about it in a little more detail presents says he's paying <hes> interested in what he he's actually quite accurate about that. There've been reports that the trump organization has about three hundred forty million dollars hours and adjustable rate debt so that's one reason why Spain if rates are going up but they've been coming down and you know there's some cognitive dissonance here guys because when when you look at what he says has the strongest economy in history so we should have lower interest rates. That's not historically the way policy has worked. He's bullying. Jerome Powell on the Federal Reserve to lower interest rates not for the U._S. economy. He doesn't care about us. He cares about himself. He's been using the office of the presidency to benefit himself himself financially since the very beginning since the very beginning and even after Powell lowered interest rates he still complained about it because he didn't think it was enough. Here's is what he tweeted what the market wanted to hear from Jay Powell Jerome Powell and the Federal Reserve is J. period. No he wrote Jane. That's not his name. He's an idiot idiot Jerome Powell and the Federal Reserve is that this was the beginning of a lengthy and aggressive rate cutting cycle all which would keep pace with China the European Union and other countries around the world as you as usual Powell lettuce down but at least he is ending quantitative tightening which should have started in the first place no inflation first of all there has been inflation. There's no question about it and one other thing this discourages people from saving because you're not earning any any interest on your savings account it encourages people to take out more debt and discourages them from saving because they're not earning anything in their money or from their money. Okay two more things about that. One is look if you're not familiar with all this quantitative easing in the financial situation. I I don't blame you. Just make it real simple right so so when the economy is doing well you you don't cut interest rates usually increase interest rates because you're worried about inflation running out of control that would create a different problem because theoretically you have more jobs and and says you have that there's more competition for jobs on wages go up and then the products <hes> prices start to go up and so you wouldn't cut interest rates when the economy's doing well because you might overheat the economy now when you already have a bubble and and you already have peak debt not only the personal but at the corporate level that is the very worst time to cut interest rates so every economist knows this and and you see people on C._n._B._C. et Cetera snickering about it and by the way if you go to the C._N._B._C. website they do to be fair to them. They have economists after economists almost daily warning thing it's GonNa blow it's going to blow and and and so what they're playing with fire here and a great homework on I'd forgotten that he had money where he of course has debt that makes a lot of sense so it is actually somewhat personal corruption on Donald Trump's part could he when he wants to pay lower interest interest rates on his own debt etc but then that leads to the final thing which is about what Republicans do in general that is not specific to trump. They've been doing this since Nixon. Listen and people written books about it when they're in charge they try to pressure the Federal Reserve to lower interest rates so that the economy will heat up and it will seem like they have a good economy and they load up debt because again you're spending into the economy which then creates a better economy and as soon as a Democrat comes into office they go. Oh my God look at the dead you gotta get rid of the debt and the deficit Oh my God and Federal Reserve to lower those interest rates and the idiot Democrats usually go along to get pressure. Go ooh Republican a yell at me you morons they've written books about it right and they fall into that trap almost every every time and so they do that and when you increase the rates or you try to get rid of the deficit then you take money out of the economy and the economy does worse and then the republic turn around and go you see that you can't have a Democrat in office. You can't have one because it kind of does so poorly as it turns out Bill Clinton an and Barack Obama to be fair them. I've got plenty of progressive critique of them <hes> but they were good stewards of the economy and the economy did boom in the long run in their presidency and as you know George W Bush oftentimes the Republicans no matter how many games they play they get caught especially if Bush had if if he only had one term the things that he said an emotion would have exploded anyway right then they would have blamed it on Democrats but he had two terms blew up before he could get out of office <music> and probably the same will happen with trump. It'll probably blow up on his own term even if it's just one term but if he goes to terms there's no way the economy he doesn't cry impossible all right. We gotta take a break. When we come back? We have an update on that equifax settlement and how it will impact you and then later in the show. I'm going to show you more examples of how Bernie Sanders is being pushed to attack Elizabeth Warren and vice versa even after the debates come right back. 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You know what Obama did back in ninety seven is what caused this <hes> anyways surf to die forces fake news trump doesn't pay his debts regardless of the interest rates. That's true for the moby the ones that he asked for the Deutsche Bank <hes> he is still maintaining meaning miraculously. It's probably long as he's ever gone without going bankrupt <hes> but he might be paying them with Russian money like I the fact that no one talks about the money that he knows the Russians is unbelievable. It's insane. His sons have said repeatedly. We borrowed all of our money for the golf courses from the Russians because they like to play play golf so anyway but that's an interesting note and last one is pessimistic cynic but fun at parties. I'd say so so into you. Maybe DEM's lead G._O._P.. Do these things because it benefits them as well yeah. Look let me be clear a they're on a sugar high right now right but it's like one of those things where you're doing something naughty and you know it's not easy but it feels good at the moment and you keep doing it. It's like raw dogging someone you met for the first night idea like don't feel good but you might pay the consequences later. I was already going to say that what you're you're saying it sounds too much fun and then you went in the dog direction. Oh okay well. We'll talk about fed interest rates one minute raw dog the next fed interest rate in the context parties. Yeah all right <hes> and let me tell you about Nord V._p._N.. That's another way you can protect yourself and your on line activity. V._P._N.'s helped to protect you from hackers and any type of bad actor that wants to take a look at what your doing online go to nor nor V._p._n.. Dot Com slash t y t to get get a giant discount seventy five percent off for three years and you get your first month free all right. Let's move on to the rest of the news. Colfax had agreed to a settlement which would essentially pay people who were affected by hackers about one hundred twenty. Many dollars are under twenty five dollars to be specific or you could opt for free credit monitoring now. Here's the issue they didn't expect so many people to sign up and file for that settlement money and it appears that they don't have enough money to pay or at least the settlement doesn't have enough money to pay everyone who who filed for the monetary settlement so <hes> according to Forbes some impacted customers won't even be getting the minimum one hundred twenty five dollars payout because the F._T._C. failed to anticipate the number of responses it would get the F._t._C. is telling affected Equifax customers to opt for free credit monitoring catering instead of cash in fact the assistant director of the F._T._C. Division of privacy and identity protection told the public that the response to the settlement has been overwhelming that millions of people have applied for compensation via the settlement websites claim forms and he says quote a large number of claims names for cash instead of credit monitoring monitoring means only one thing each person who takes the money option. We'll wind up only getting a small amount nowhere near the one hundred twenty five dollars. They could have gone if there hadn't been such an enormous number of claims filed now. I don't know call me crazy but I wouldn't want the the Credit Bureau that got hacked to do credit monitoring for me like maybe I don't really trust Equifax or their credit monitoring because they they didn't seem to care too much about our security or privacy to begin with are slow have fun with this story so number one. I like how you <hes> assiduously avoided the name of the gentleman their practice the name before going on air and then I decided I just know I'm not even GonNa take the risks. What's so fun name Robert Shoshefsky Okay Okay Okay so now look? I don't WanNA show Schenk away from this story so I'm the worst anyways <hes> look. I'll tell you what the real story is <hes> so they made it seem like Oh my God you know it's just a slight miscalculation and now Equifax can't pay these people no no no no no no at first when I read the headline I thought they were saying Equifax can't pay them because otherwise they'll go bankrupt and then they won't have the money to pay them but no no that's not the story is because the F._t._C. I e trump's government. <hes> made a really crappy deal with them as settlement where they only have to pay thirty one million million dollars for one of the worst data breaches in American history g look at that Oh golly gee we under settled you know we we let another giant company getaway with a tiny settlement given the depth of the problem and they and they throw their hands up like well. I guess there's nothing we can do now. You guys are all going. They get screwed and you now. You're not even GonNa get one hundred and twenty five dollars and we're going to give you a credit. That's pretty much useless well. I guess there's other we can do yeah. There's nothing we can do because you're corrupt. Exactly the S._e._C. had made a better deal here. I could sell for you right now. Everything you have more money it. We double the settlement from thirty one million to Right but he doesn't want to do that because the trump government is corrupt and we'll let corporations get away with anything and then they frame the articles pickles like well. I Guess Poor Equifax. They can't pay no by the way forget the settlement of the government and they keep talking about like. Oh what is Equifax GonNa do with its brand and they're concerned that people might not use them anymore and this was going to fix their brands use them anymore. You have no you have no choice did any any of US often to having Equifax monitor our credit no not not a single person. They just do it. They do it without us having to opt in they have all all this personal data on us which then is vulnerable to hacking because they don't care about protecting personal information and then we have to go out of our way to freeze our credit added or to pay for credit monitoring do all sorts of things just to protect ourselves. How ridiculous is that. Well look I can help executives if they actually cared about their brand et. CETERA and making sure that people think that they have their customers. You don't have to have the government. Make you pay more. You good voluntarily say hey. You know what no matter what. I'm forgetting doubling this helmet or anything like that. I'm just if you will you one hundred twenty five dollars. We're going to be one hundred twenty five dollars boom problem solved and you're not it's not random random people. It's only people who had their data breached had those costs and filed like I might have happened to me. I'm not filing right so only people who were like it was a significant issue for them and they're finally it's not Brandon Bob who wasn't affected by the breach at all so they oh the money nutty so you could just pay no Equifax is choosing not to pay it and the government is choosing to do a small settlement with them so that they can get away with it and now let me explain the Tricky Zeki thing. They're doing behind the scenes because if you did file in order to get that one hundred twenty five dollars you're supposed to get that money but now what they're gonNa do is send you a follow up email and you have to send them documents proving that you have credit monitoring already if if you don't have credit monitoring monitoring than you don't even have the option anymore of that monetary settlement which is ridiculous but here's the thing we all have credit monitoring through banks <hes> you can do it through services like Credit Karma which is what I use personally I really liked credit Karma and it's free so and I trust them way more than equifax credit monitoring monitoring so just make sure you have those documents ready and respond to that email and get your money because you are entitled to and if you've been affected by this breach if you hear let's say tricky position. Everyone's on the show so references to an old political ad from the nineteen eighties in New Jersey and by the way the guy presents tricky super-busy key turns out to be a wonderful guy. It was like a Republican smear job against them but now we can replace it with tricky Shoshefsky. The same ring is so close tricky Shoshefsky. Yeah we'll work on it yeah okay but the people who should really work on it is Equifax and the F._T._C.. Ah Yes all right so. Let's move on to some more post debate analysis. They don't need Bernie telling them what kind of Insurance Michael Bennett very very salty with Jank in the Spin Room. This is following the second night of the Democratic Debates in Detroit. Now jank approached him to ask ask him <hes> some more questions about Medicare for all and things got superheated. Take a look. I wanted to ask you about Medicare for all fun. I know you and I have disagreements right is it must be the cost issue. That's worrying you because as you and I talked about before it would get rid of private insurance but as you said to replace it with the Cadillac plan that would be awesome coverage yet so is it. Just a caused us weren't with that. I don't disagree that my point is that the American people are not about to give up <hes> their their family's ability to make a choice between private insurance <hes> and a public option which is what I am proposing. They don't want to give that up for the privilege of paying thirty three trillion dollars in taxes. I understand Bernie's position. I understand his ideological position. I respect his ideological position. I disagree with him that this is where the American people are and frankly I think the evidence is that roughly a third of Democrats support PORTA's position Meena. I was with the pipe fitters yesterday who are saying. Why are the Democrats trying to take away our plan. Bernie said last night then Labor doesn't isn't liked their plans. It's not true there may be some people that don't but there are an awful lot did if negotiated it over a long period of time and don't WANNA lose it it in for us to give up the advantage of being able to be on offense and make the case that we're running against a president who's taken insurance away from millions of people which he has is still fighting to take away insurance <hes> on a pre existing condition. Would people have preexisting condition. I don't WanNa be on defense because because Bernie's plan okay so I WANNA point out a couple of things first of all it actually started out super polite and he said Oh we've disagreed about this before and I Michael Bennett is generally a very agreeable person in a very polite person so <hes> and as you noticed I let him give his answer for a very long long time I did not interrupt him at all and his and his person's trying to pull them away because they don't want them talk to me right and but I let him use the full answer even though I disagree agree with a lot of that and talk to him about it before and what was the original question I was asking about his own quote from a previous discussion that we had so so I could not have been any more polite polite in the beginning and so now let me just quickly address some of the things that he said there because a lot of it isn't accurate so personal he said only third of the Democratic Voters Support Bernie's plan wrong not remotely true in fact. There's polling that shows over fifty percent the country not just democratic voters. Democratic primary voters the whole country a majority of the country supports Medicare for all they've acid in eighteen different ways and burning today. Actually on television did a great job point. There's a new poll says over fifty percent country supports Medicare for all then they flip the question and say what if it takes away your private insurance the support drops and they say okay what have you take away your private insurance but you have better insurance which is the reality and they don't even framing that that right well for progressives they give you all the details government run insurance. They explained now normally code words that triggers the right wing etc and this third third way. They asked the question where they actually complete the sentence. You don't have private insurance anymore. You quote Unquote losted. You now have government insurance. It's scores better better than the original Medicare for all question so he's just not. Let's put it this way. He's not being accurate about the polling that's not true saying the pipe fitters hitters but you guys keep saying I argued for this provision in my using the Union to get better health insurance. You did a great job to the unions. Here's for doing that but now you'll have better insurance right and then you can use that leverage for higher wages. What would it be wrong with that right and sorry and one last thing about it. He keeps using the thirty three trillion dollar number. See that's that's where that gets under my skin and I can tell you that now you know and I would have been happy to talk to him about it. Further that's a coke brother study and it said thirty two trillion not thirty three trillion so you're quoting a very right wing study but in that study they said it saves thirty four trillion so when you only put out one of those numbers that is. I don't know if you mean to be misleading but you're definitely are being misleading because if you if somebody says to me hey give me eighteen bucks. I don't know why I'm giving you eighteen bucks but I'm GonNa give you back twenty bucks. Okay deal you. You're going to give me twenty bucks that you've left out the whole equation and it wouldn't be weird misleading to say hey. I'm just taking your money but I'm not going to give you something in return so I have something to say about the Labor Union point that he made but before I make it I actually want to go to the next video because this is is where things get fiery but the pipe fitters they would have insurance. It's not taking away their in St with their insurance. They don't need Bernie to tell them what insurance they have. They like their insurance. They fought hard for they've negotiated for. They've organized board. They don't need Bernie telling them what kind of insurance okay okay. I don't know why he got heated. They're real heated and it was just I just tweaked and it wasn't it was a normal follow. Hey Pipe fitters would have better assurance. According to who you Michael Bennett said earlier Cadillac plan it would be the Cadillac plan. It would be quote awesome issues. I'm just quoting Michael Bennett so maybe that's why he got cheese like. Oh right they would have better insurance and I already said that that that doesn't help my case. I gotTA GET OUTTA here. I'm keeping a real I.. Why else are you running away. I've had the same conversation with John Delaney many times and a guy argues back back and forth but he's honest and he says this is where I stand so you don't have to run if you are you really believe in your position so I just want to say you know for for the labor unions who fought for the insurance they have right now. I get it right so it would be the equivalent of me. You know negotiating hard to get a pay raise right so if I got a five thousand dollar a year pay raise and I thought hard for it I would I would wanNA hold onto that pay raise until someone would management. We come to me and says hey. We WanNa get you a fifteen thousand dollar pay raise. I'm not going to say no. No I reject it. I reject that fifteen thousand pay raise because I I worked really hard for that. Five thousand dollar pay raise. It doesn't make sense so look. I think that there's a breakdown in communication because what workers never ever really hear about in this mainstream media narrative is what Medicare for all would cover and the fact that it covers so many different things including vision and dental that you wouldn't need private insurance right and that's the the second half of the conversation that is never had and so. I don't think I have nothing against <hes> the Labor Union labor unions incredibly important and I have no doubt they fought for the insurance that they have but I just find it hard to. I believe that they would reject Medicare for all if they really knew how much medicare for all covered or look one more thing about this how the interview interview went and then one more thing about the substance look no politician owes any reporter any amount of time so it's not about that but you saw there he seemed to have lost his temper which almost never happens for. Michael Bennett and it wasn't an you saw what the question was. It wasn't some out of bounds question. It wasn't about his personal. Alive wasn't any of that stuff right. It was just a very normal follow up question of hey when they have better insurance according to you right so I think <hes> there was one person at the debate who actually was honestly worse. Steve Bullock former governor the governor of Montana Hannah right and so he wouldn't like his spokespeople like arm blocked me and didn't want they clearly didn't WanNa talk to us and the irony any was I wanted to ask about campaign finance reform which is actually really good on and so if reporters are asking your legitimate questions and can you really believe in your positions. It's not that hard to answer them. If they're asking weird questions about things that are out of bounce totally get it right and if you want to answer answer only one question or how limited amount of time I totally get it but if you don't want to answer questions how much do you really believe in your positions and it's search for progressive candidates they get asked tough questions over and over and over again and they sit there and the answer them all right okay so now finally on the substance of it they claim both Michael Bennett who's the senator from Colorado and John Hickenlooper who's as a former governor of Colorado this deeply unpopular and that's why they're worried about losing the election. If you go for Medicare for all now we already share the polling with you but there's one other interesting fact jarred Polish who's now the current governor of Colorado you know when he campaigned on Medicare for anyone by thing about ten points so easy easy easy victory and it was one of his major planks. That's your home saved the one you said you're so proud one because you wouldn't do anything dangerous like campaigning on Medicare for raw and now they have a very crowded primary in the democratic side for the Senate seat. Guess who's taking the lead the candidate aggressively arguing going for Medicare for all so if it's so unpopular and we'd lose elections. Whi in your home state is there are the candidates that are for Medicare for all well constantly winning elections so now finally you WanNa get snippy. I'll get a little skimpy. Okay okay so snippy. Okay if it isn't really about the popularity and you have the polling wrong and you have your the analysis of your own home state wrong and you have the numbers wrong then what's your real motivation and so now this they'll find this completely out of. Oh my how could you question the fact that I've taken all these corporate donations entire throughout my entire career that that would influence me all this money that the health insurance companies and the drug companies have given me well I am. I'm such an angel. That would never affect me. Okay okay. That's what you're saying and I think that a lot of Americans have back ninety. Six percent of Americans thing that corporate money corrupts politics and not in a personal John Way Michael Ben is not at all a bad guy in person right <hes> but in a systematic way and it's the stomach way. It's systemic corruption so when you tell me you take millions of dollars in corporate donations and it doesn't affect you. I'm here to tell you that ninety six percent of Americans don't believe you and you might find that deeply uncomfortable all but that's a reality go look the poll so your arguments on unfortunately on the facts and the statistics and the polling don't hold water the leaves us only one other options while you're going in that direction when we come back from the break we have one other person who gets snippy and that's Meghan McCain during her conversation with Tom. Sire <hes> fascinating back and forth. I think I'M GONNA agree with Meghan McCain. Come right Basher.

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Follow Your Financial Path with John Kennedy and Adam Kipnes

The Entrepreneur's MBA with Adam Kipnes

33:26 min | 1 year ago

Follow Your Financial Path with John Kennedy and Adam Kipnes

"Welcome to the entrepreneurs. Mba bringing you lessons from real life entrepreneurs they don't teach business school here's your host business and marketing. Strategist Adam kipness being entrepreneurs not just about finding what you're passionate Russian net. It's not just about finding need filling it for your clients. It's about finding partners finding the right place finding something that fills the need of not only yourself your clients but also the world and I'm really excited to have that conversation and more today. This is ABC fitness host of the entrepreneurs NBA podcast. I brought to you by C.. Suite Radio and honored by power texting Dot Com power texting DOT COM is a great platform to stay in touch with your clients and your prospects aspects super affordable super easy to use and they give away a free hotel. Stay to one listener of every episode of the show so stay tuned for more information on that. I'm really excited for today's conversation. We've been trying to do this for like four months. Schedules gotten away but we finally made it happen. He's financial advocate. He's a fractional. CFO US. He's a father of two including newborn two month. Old Kennedy. Thanks for being here. I really appreciate it Adam. Thanks for having me I pumped to be here. Yeah definitely and so I always like to know the journey and how you became an entrepreneur. Was this something that you always knew who you wanted to do. Or was this something that you learn later in life. Yeah that's a great question. I think when I was a kid short of being like a major league baseball player for the Atlanta Braves. I probably probably realized that a young age between eight and ten that I wanted to be an entrepreneur. I watched my dad is a business moments of his life. He worked from home. Got An office out of the House and it was just. It was really fun watching him and so I think it'd be nor when I went to college though I had a marketing track. Believe believe it or not at one personal finance class and that was my. I said this is for me. I love this stuff. This is what I wanted to arrest. That's so cool and quick little aside. I was in Atlanta this weekend for my twenty fifth college reunions and the first by Sophomore Year of college the first week that was when the braves as were in the playoffs and they went on an unprecedented twelve year. Run and I became hooked is a braves fan. You were probably watching it exactly the same time so we definitely have that Lavin. Oh Yeah we're a braves family. Were hoping to make it past the first round of the playoffs these seasons but yet we're family through and through then that's awesome thousand C set. Your Dad was an entrepreneur. was something that was discussed in the household. Like didn't art of entrepreneurship was ordered. Was it just what he did in his job. Yeah I don't I don't know I looking back. I don't think it was was discussed it when I was a kid. Certainly as I got older we talked about it but I think it was more just observing him right as a father like seeing that you know taking phone calls doing business meetings being able to step out of his Home Office. Hang out with me as a kid all around so I just always wanted that little. You just observe your parents and the habits that they happen so I always thought. How cool is this most people? I knew like their parents works. And we're out of the house and they didn't see it out until time so I I think probably it was the combination of observing. Bring it and then as I got older have dialup rapid. Yeah that makes sense and did you have like side businesses growing up. Where you you know the guy in college selling t shirts birds in starting little businesses or was it still more of a dream at that point in your life man? I was the ten year old kid in the summers going house to house as like pulling weeds out of people's offering to pull weeds papers and weaves out of their flowerbeds. Doing Yard Yard work at full maintenance. I yeah from an early age I was doing over stakes. Actually now that you ask that question that makes me realize I've been doing this for a long time. It's interesting to think about as we're younger that creating your own income is something that some of us just do and other people never do and it leads to where you go today right up. Yeah absolutely and and for me I mean I learnt getting into the financial services industry in two thousand eight right so the great recession and and I mean it was interesting to get into the industry but even then I knew how important providing good sound advice was and I just I love being able to do it in this entrepreneurial Ashen where we get to have the autonomy of how bad got advice makes sense so yet journey. That's awesome. Did you start your own business right out of school or did you go a more traditional sort of corporate ridpath as a start in in the financial world. Yeah more probably the more the more traditional corporate route Worked with the firm for a long time a couple of years ago my business partner and I decided that we wanted to kind of go our own way create something where we could really serve tires and business owners owners in a unique fashion. That's where we started kindergarten financial and you could find John. At Canberra PATH FINANCIAL OUR PATH DOT COM. Great place learn more about what he and his partner do and was did you and your partner come together and say we gotta do something different. Let's talk about this. Was it a little more organic than that. How did that transformation happen? Were you decided all right. Let's get to the paycheck and let's open our doors. Yeah Yeah I think I. I realized early on as did he that. We didn't WANNA be solo entrepreneurs we really wanted to leverage each other's time in talent and skill L. Sets and so it's it it is funny to me because I think I was consulting other other peers. Other people industry while up to a lot of people were were very anti partnership and I look back on it now and even at that moment I thought well how. How can I do this in any other way? Like how could I mean certainly we could but not to the scale to the degree in which we do it now so for us the beauty of it is we have a great relationship known each other for a really long time but I'm the advocate of doing partnerships for I think probably the the norm in the Rama business owners entrepreneurs is to kind of steer clear of them But I think that if done properly it is a huge business advantage in terms of of being able to grow interesting. I think you say that was that. Is that something true to you in whether it was sports or whether it was growing up or whether it was studying. Did you always have a thought partner with you absolutely. Yeah Yeah like I I D- down in my In my bones believe in that collaborative effort and that you know. It's just so hard to do things on your own. Even I mean think about like you can just bouncing ideas off of someone. That understands what you're going through. I mean certainly you know. I've got a great life really supportive house but I'm not gonNA bring all those things to hurt you. I mean it's just great to have a business partner to be able to collaborate that way and I feel like my mindset is always has always been about that that's really important and I just had a recent guest who who who builds in host masterminds making. Sure that as entrepreneurs your neighbors might not be entrepreneurs your spouse not beaten. It might not be an entrepreneur. They don't necessarily understand some of the huge highs and huge lows of owning your own business and finding someone that that you can have that conversation Asian within be super candidate about how you got your bucket or how you don't know how you're GonNa make payroll in all of those things come to it. How did that that part of with your life come together? Meaning finding the right people and understanding this is not a one-way ticket straight up in the entrepreneurial world where sometimes James Corporate world you know. You're getting a paycheck. You know what to do every day can be different in your life now. Well it's it's it's interesting you mention that because I think even in one of your most recent podcast you talked about finding your tribe and so I'm I'm just a big advocate of of having that collaborative effort like like I said and I've I've followed embarrassed for a long time. I'm sure most of your next as well. And I don't know if he's the originator of this idea. But certainly he brought it to to to the forefront of my mind in your the average of the five people you spend majority timeless and it really required me need to make an audit of of okay. Well who are these fights equal and I even I even sort of logged at for a while to see like just sheer No quantitatively based Flex your hours in my day certainly. It's it's my spouse but then beyond that Burma time with colleagues friends whatever a family and then understanding okay. Well I want to be. The advocate defy really needs to make sure that these top five are gonNA be influential. They're going to be positive people. That are up soon that I wanna I wanna you know I want to adopt adapt to their mindset and how to So it's something that I've been long thought about but it's stuff you guys talk talk about all the time too. I just think it's so important. Find Your tribe and know that these people will rally around you be abuse business owner. I mean you just this year that there's highs and lows as business owner all the time you just need that group of people. That's going to support you. I love that. I think it's critical and I love that. You brought the the five people around you and there's another guys named Charlie Tremendous Jones. He's a motivational speaker writer. And he said the only difference wins between you today and five years is the people you meet and the books you read and that follows right along with what you're saying. Oh yeah yeah absolutely. Yeah and I'm an avid book reader too few stats sitting on my desk. That I'm looking at but I need to get to but yeah I'm just a big believer a self improvement as an entrepreneur. It just it really can never stop Kennett now it can it. Can I totally agree. So speaking of always improving take. He's back to that first year. You Open your doors you and your partner now have your own business. You're going your own way. What was the hardest thing or the biggest challenge that that tame up in that first year? That's a that's an awesome question. And I I've thought about this and I think I've identified two things but primarily early for us. It was really being able to focus on the important things over the urgency things. And I I I've heard even heard this on your podcast too but I mean this is just. It's so easy in theory and it's so difficult in practice especially in in a service based world where we work with individuals and business owners have client meetings about actions things to do. It would be so easy to make your day or have your data simply get away from you with accidents little tasks that add up that at the end of the day you on it your day and you're like no I was busy. I know who I worked hard all day but I really don't know what it was I accomplished and so for us. In that first year we recognized. We needed to make sure we're focusing on the important things. The vision casting the building of our brands. The growing of our firm right hires that type of stuff was really really critical one and remains critical now But I think that such difficult. It's just easier said than done. It's such a difficult task in. It was something that even to this day when I wake up in in the morning I write down the first three like the big three that I want today because if I don't have that down physical to a a day we'll just get lost like many others that are entrepreneurs and business owners. I I would imagine no. I hear that every every day I do that every day you know where business I can take over. Clients can take over. Because they're they're the lifeblood of our business but if we don't stick to what we need to accomplish it can be a month and all the sudden the big things still haven't gotten done right. Yeah I guess a good point of clarification on that is is you know clients hear from us within twenty four hours. I we believe in effective and and really good communication touch points. I mean that that's so critical. What we do as any business business but I feel like in the service baseball so so critical? But it's just easy to prioritize those things that feel more Over the things that are truly important in growing the business a sense for us we've wanted to continue to develop team and have the right people in place that are offerings Veteran even they earn so it's just it's it's easier said than recognized apple. I would say in the first year that was the most difficult thing in the other thing too is really balancing is of lows being business. I mean it's just it would be so easy to get caught up in moments when the snowballing and working against you but I also thing that kind of goes back to having people around you like we talked about earlier. You have been having the right people that you can ask to junior partner ever look at each other and be like what the hell are we doing. You know not a single truly truly guy. I can say that with confidence not a single moment. It's it we we look at each other and this is and we do this sooner kind of thing. It's just it's great. It's so fun and what we have. We have a business coach that we consult with every other week we Down and we were highly intentional. Happy About having these discussions but Yeah Yeah it's it's been a journey for sure that's wonderful. We're talking with John Kennedy on the entrepreneurs NBA podcast without him. Kipness as I said earlier powered texting dot com gives away one hotel stay to one listener of every show go to podcast trip dot com and enter to win that trip at seventeen locations around the country a few around the world four four and five star hotels so a super great offer from them and hopefully people can take advantage of that. So John as you're building your financial essential services business and you do consulting new advisory work in you do a fractional. CFO work. How did how did that sort of transform this form into adding more services to benefit your clients because you probably started a little more traditional? Let's go after this type of client and help them but now you have a whole suite of services versus. How did those come together? Well I think it was driven by passion working with business owners owners is something where we just really identify the the struggles the opportunity to challenges that come with being business an entrepreneur. Because that's you know we are. We are one as well so we just really identified within it. We recognized that. There's a lot of fun and creative planning in the space of how your your a personal finances and your business. Finance Bland looking at key performance indicators in understanding how your cash flow metrics should work in your business what your profit margin origin should be like that. That's always been sort of exciting to us and so as we develop this we realized wow I mean we work work with we work with retirees we work with executives. I mean there's it's not that this is specifically are only niche but it's is just a the type of individual that we enjoy starving and the type of planning that can get creative as a business owner so really surrogates. Someone's advocate financially being they're they're quote unquote uncle fractional. CFO were that sort of developed was. Okay there's something like twenty seven million businesses across America the generate one million dollars last year. And so that that's a lot money that's still a lot of money generate a half a million dollars a year. Goodness Gracious. You're running a great business but it's probably probably difficult. Margins might be too thin to hire a full time. CFO right so you still would benefit from some of those some of those types services but traditionally speaking you could afford it and so in this world of the GIG economy Not able to just work but business owners fashion we already do. And then sort of add to the scope of services key performance indicators and looking at business ethics helping him out. I couldn't do that so that's sort of how. Wow that was born interesting one thing. That's I've never fully understood and I've asked a number of people so I only get your thoughts on this is is whether you're an individual whether you're recently retired whether you're a business owner. One of the last things people hire is someone to help with their finances finances whether it's a goalkeeper whether it's an advisor many people do their own thing and it's not because they think they're better at it but there's something holding them back back and I think the first thing we all should do is hire someone to do our bookkeeping when Warren Business. We should hire someone to get advice on the financial side because it's such an extremely cleanly intricate and growing world. Why is it that people hold back and don't hire a financial partner or financial advocate? Sometimes until it's almost too late I think that there's some components of of money psychology. And how people you know their habits that formed armed around holidays you money. It's a IT'S A. It's a scary topic. I think it's it's easy to push rush off to the side right. It's not fun building businesses fine and following your passion critical For most people financial end of that is the not exciting art. And so we do try to make that a little fun exciting but I think it probably. The root of that is maybe someone's relationship with money if they've had bad experiences with growing up us if they you know we operate we tend to operate with a scarcity mindset that there's never enough that we always need to grow we always have more. We need to protect what we have have. I think all of those things combined sort of allows an individual to just think that this is such an overwhelming conversation tasks that well we'll put it off until the new year and then the New Year comes than the Al you know will meet with a couple financial advocates or financial planners. And you know it's not until that pain point become so obviously clear to them that they make that decision and that's typically why ends up later in some of these. Some of these life transitions than it does on earlier Like should I. I would agree in in in my world. I do a lot of strategic planning with clients. That's the core focus of my business is locking folks in a room for two days and just planning out their entire business for the next five years and in our personal lives. We need to do that as well on our business lives. We need to do that. The planning aspect is so critical. What her her two or three important components of a good plan whether it's personal whether it's for your business when we're talking about the finance side? Yeah Gosh I would say understanding. I mean certainly understanding where your money's going and understanding what your savings rate is so think of it just for a moment and on the personal side of business on our nor you really need to hone in doubt what your savings percentages you might know how much goes towards a Sapphire way or some type of retirement account but I want you to know. The percentage based on what your earnings are so that as time goes on Mr earnings grow you're able to connect that percentage and continue to grow your savings a and I mean listen. The average savings rate in America's less than five percents and it needs to be higher right. I mean we can't depend on what we have to depend on ourselves for retirement in today's world so I would say identifying where you're spending and where you're saving has got to be the two biggest areas that most people again. It's not fun I can't tell you how many times I've had. Conversations with individuals were reduced. Some of that cash for planning and they said you know. I don't even WanNa see that in abroad. SYMINGTON woman sped out to restaurants but the reality is whether you know order. You don't know it you're you still. You still did it right so I mean I kind of how I always talk through it with people It's okay this isn't a negative thing. Let's I kinda know what the numbers are so we can know where to go with it. I think that that's great. It's the idea of if you run your life as a business like you run your businesses as a business. Everything can change. Many entrepreneurs have that are super buttoned up in every dollar spent where it's going. What their numbers look like and then their your personal life is a mess because they're not treating their personal life in their personal finances as a business? It's so true mad and it's so fascinating fascinating to me that that's the case but it it you know you spend all your time for grassroots into Your Business and that for for lack of a better way of explaining it as your baby right as you're growing and scaling it and so you're really you're treating nat with your good steward of your business retreat out with care and and what ends up happening is your personal life on the financial end often. It's it's the last thing you think about. You come home and targets your family you WanNa go weekends and there's really no time to carve out have the discussions might i. I keep you not my wife and I went out to lunch last this past Sunday to talk about finding. It's because we just had our time and so we watch you know. Watch our kids. And we got an hour to Saddam talk. Findings is because we feel like that and so yeah it's it is a fascinating trend. But it's so true that you treat the business finances great and then on the personal side oftentimes gets ignored. Your I think that's a huge takeaway for everybody listening. It's and you don't have to over business justify your life but if you begin to think about your personal finances it from a business perspective it can change everything for you and so along those lines. You know as well as I do that that everybody needs someone like you in their life. They need someone that they can whether it's a question about their mortgage wet weather. It's Russian about how should they refinance question about. Do I have enough money to hire somebody. Somebody needs you in there. They all need you in their life. But not everyone hires you. So how have you found that need that. Everyone has translate into. Who is your line? How you find them where where do you go to get your hines to give them to? Yes yes so I think at this stage of the game and partially this is just where we're at in archery or so I mean I'm I'm over. Ten Years in the industry in my business partner Mattis twenty years in the industry so for the most part it ends up being Referrals because if you think about it I mean that transfers the transfer of trust is so easy when you have a client family member who says hey really need to work with these guys or whatever the case may be so I think client referrals still remains of the world of how we do a plan how we grow our business. The the most effective way to grow But what's fascinating about that. We do a lot of videos. If you check out a book dot com slash. KANTER pass if you follows linked in you know some of our social. I mean a lot of videos that we do and they're not I promise they're not boring like how do you know Steph. IRA or something. I mean they're they're meant to be fun and exciting topics that we discussed. But what's fascinating about that as a prospect comes in town with us and it. It took us a while to figure this out but what we discovered is they already know us in a way they used to because they go to our page. They've watched a video of already heard talks they. They know like they know my conversation style. They've seen me communicate. They see my office behind me. When I'm done a video so they come into the office needs? They already know the office the already know meal. Deepens that connection in that first in those first few meetings But we have a we really believe in it video and twenty nine hundred. I think so so critical. And we're getting better at it and I say that it's not like we do have the the era. I just think it's really important to get your message out there and be authentic and be uncomfortable in front of video and the first few I I did I must I must have done ninety takes on some of these videos and now I I do a lot less but you know if I mess up up. Here Nicole. I would agree in today's world. It's it's so easy to create publicity listening for yourself in the social media world and and doing video and being raw and being just out there saying. Hey here's what I do. I think I can help. You really can make it easy for someone to say. Hey John I think I need to talk to you correct. Yeah and and the and the financial planning process like that's not linear you know so you might. You might see a video or you might get referred to us by someone who works with us. And that's great but you just might not be at that stage in life where you're ready you. The pain point might not be big enough in so But if you know about us and were proactive in just putting good messages out there in the online community may be Sala US I. I'm I'm confident that when the time comes you'll at least what we see one of the three big advocates interviewing. I'm doing a three to five. Financial people will at least be one of the three that you consider. Let's get that information. At facebook dot com slide slash kantor path you can go to cantor path dot com and as a first step. Many of you should go to cantor. Path dot com slash interview. They're great questions that that John is is partner of setup for us to begin this process and as we wrap up a little bit here what what is one or two things that people should I do I because yes they can come to you and they can say how can you help. But what can they do to prepare a little bit so they can be as proactive proactiv but also as helpful to you as a financial advocate and hit the ground running. Yeah I think yeah you mention Kenneth Dot com slash interview That's a great place so that it's just a document that allows you. You can print it out. You can write on it. Bring it's different places different people you're interviewing doings but it allows you to ask some of those uniform Russians. Because we're we're really big on making sure. Sure you understand some of the important questions. Like what other designations certifications and so on and so forth. That's absolutely critical. 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Triathlon ACT Podcast - Episode 2

Triathlon ACT Podcast

46:16 min | 2 years ago

Triathlon ACT Podcast - Episode 2

"Welcome to the triathlon. Icy podcast. Where you'll find out all the latest news events results and backstory of old things triathlon. You'll also hear from the incredible people who bring triathlon in the heart of the nation's capital to live and now you're highs old away from Canberra Australia Craig. Don's Emily Stacey welcome back to the trump on act podcast. It's cry. John Zarrella Director Trough Stacey Sport developed miniature. Emily welcome how Craig. How're you doing? Good good hey. We got some great feedback from. We've had over one hundred and fifty downloads pretty good. We only have a thousand members. That's very impressive. But I'm not entirely sure how many that my mom downloaded in that number so few yet biggest fan. Let's go. We're looking to retreat. You MS as well. So it's not just all bad. I Miss I feel free to share it. Get it out there. Get people interested in what's happening in trough on in the heart of the nation's capital. Emily over the last couple of weeks. You have been up to some really cool exciting projects so tell us a little bit about the. Cbi Women's workshop. Yeah so see. Women in sport is to series of workshops. I think is four of them that Running every month. Oh sorry and the couple of weeks ago. I went to one in Philip and it was led by the head. A guest speaker who was Lee Russell. Is the swimming Australia CEO? Yes Minister Icu. And she was fantastic she spike the the topic of her presentation was full for women and girls. You can't be what you can't see and hear argument was well you can. It's just makes it harder. And so she discussed and talked about with all of us and it was a panel of speakers as well About different various that she personally had experienced in her Professional career as well as personal life as being a woman and how she's overcome those and it was just really fascinating and inspiring so and also talking about the importance of women supporting women that we can do great things and sometimes it it. It comes down to where women we can get a bit catty and tear each other down. But we need to kind of turn that around and really supportive of each other in our endeavors. Bruins end this weekend talking about supporting others who got the meaningful inclusion workshop. We do yes say that. Stand at the office which will be nice and cozy. It's looking at ways that we can Develop Pack Coaching and approach to With paper with special needs so making sure that is fully inclusive as much as we can. Which is I'm really looking forward to that right. And we've got nine people on that on that program this weekend so exciting talking other programs. We've got both symphony door for from Vikings and Mary sit SMA from buildings and they have been selected to go the traffic Australia Technical Development Camp at Royal Pines resort on the Gold Coast. Sounds good pretty nice place to go to me. And that's on the end of this month. The Campbell focus on team building some scenarios and looking at how can improve this soft skills as a leader and also dealing in that technical spice which is really important later. Great job so exciting. Now we've had a couple of clubs who have had their awards evenings what's going on. I feel being built. I I went along. It was last two Saturdays Ago And that was fun so we had that too before ten in civic Where yeah it's just a really good not to come together? Eight food in the food is amazing. How could he's food and say we an opportunity to recognize the achievements of individual members And ones that had been put forward for special special wards so we had quite a few performance based awards that were given out on the notch. so am nervous of the year was Madison Boston. Medicine say she's incredible so very determined. She was actually hit by a car. This season three days later was back at running. She was sporting some very impressive. Bruises idiots differently Most improved athlete was Megan. Fryo so she went from being a novice to an ironman season just over the weekend. Yes she did. She's incredible under eleven hours to yes. We had a volunteer of the year. Who was Pitcher Lane Club person of the year? Joe Walsh Sir Strada at award. This travel hubs. Yes I if you been. Jowitt one that for his Christmas reindeer. It's really cool but I think he's he sit the standard. We're going to get a few people going out to stop making other pictures on Strada. Copy that pitcher and put it up on the facebook because that sounds like a great family it was good and we had so something new with the bill is the development squad. Say after Novus program we have a development squad and the athlete that took that award was branded woodmen. He's incredible Rana. Yeah I mean all three legs. But he's running especially of noticed on strawberries just really taken off we have a look Mama triathlete. Which is the best photo? So that went to pay Raymond and I think on the Bill B.'S. Facebook page those. Those photos might actually be up. It's definitely worth a look and the club of the year me. Oh Wow ising well done. Congratulations Emily exciting and we also had. Jt Mockus Fort. They had the awards. Recently I'm and they were raising funds for charity as well they were. They had the they'll raising anti-cancer project and they actually raised on their their goal and not either two and a half thousand dollars for that project is really good. It was a well attended event. Very fancy They had three awards that were given out on the not the female performance of the year which went to tracy clinch for her Rice at Manila My performance of the year was Yohan Cohen and also Mulamba and then. Jt does a values award so poll. Less which took that one out which I think is a really good white encourage members. You of this is what we like to embody in our athletes and he definitely took that one out. It's important because we get really focused on performances but to actually acknowledge. How are you living the values of the club? And what people expect from each other and it's not just people's performance that adds to the value of the club. Bits it mostly everything else so good. It was a really good not a fantastic congratulations to all those award winners it both bills and JT motorsport upcoming in the next few weeks. We've got some juniors hitting off to Victoria for the for a special camp between triathlon Victoria Trough Tasmanian et. So we've got Jordan router and dare they hitting down to that camp. I think they might be one more athlete. That will find out shortly and also announced. Today is the national calendar of National Championships and also now the world qualifying series. Rice's Cy when you listen to this because what SUV that today. It was Friday the fourteenth of June so check out the facebook on trial for an ICT and Australia for those list of events. All right. That's a great interaction. Let's get on with the show on your marks now he's in great performances from ICT athletes over the last couple weeks. I'm an canes Megan Frau from Bill Bees in her debut momentum Stevenson thirty five thirty nine age group Ben. Shepard from T- three seen defense finished thirteenth in the thirty to thirty four and Craig. Stocks backing up from his performance in ultraman. Australia finished fifty third and fifty to fifty four. And he's from T- three see in the seventy point three event in a row. Patrick get I in a fifty to fifty four age group from fit to try and fit road haired from Vikings finished second in his age group. Congratulations to those people who also raced in competed and events but didn't finish in the top three. We had Adam ridgely. He's he's abroad. We'll hear from him shortly from T. Three C- he finished thirty fifth in. The Bundesliga racing are in Germany and he finished thirteenth over the weekend and bodily Cullum mccloskey from Tay Three see also finished first in the European Cup Rice in Ukraine awesome performance. Zia callum and just this weekend. He finished second in liquidity. Our best triathlon also coach Corey bike in from pay. Tc Hey finished fifth in his age group but Hawaii seven point three a couple of weeks ago. He broke his era. Buzz actually had to hold onto them. During the ride so to finish fifth in his age group was fantastic. Performance World unto always great. Act Athletes who who racing over the last couple of weeks on the segment of triathletes abroad. We've got Eddin Raji from T. Three CS currently Ivan Europe racing and training as had a couple of Rice's already Adam. How are you good things? Good so you kicked off your Bundesliga and the German trough saint out of that. Rice Guy Yes the first rice was Rocco on was first Jane Sort of went. Okay considered For days but on the way I wanted it to correspond to crash and then lost twenty seconds on the loss of the block because of the finished up in thirty six and what size field. So what's what's the rice distances. How does it work said when this leary's teams of sixteen in Attainment in the top full individuals put attain skull points Pretty big field of the ideal say and Sprint Distance I seven fifty swim twenty bucks Around thirty six and then you have rights over the weekend and bought Alina and I think he picked up through the places that correct Amu- finished Again not really. The result Siping foles super hot says and just was unlucky to miss. The League grew by about twenty seconds in the swimming. The choice back wasn't working very well so he lost time and struggled to beat on their own so obviously big China from the modest degree. Tisch's hey we're facing in the morning and camera what's into now you buy some Gerardo. You training there at the moment I think Congress brawl is coming over as well in the next few days was the plan of attack of the next few weeks So you're enjoying until August After Isis and stuff. So I've got the second round of the Bundesliga Duesseldorf on Sunday with GonNa say just as EA- awake this week in Little Chimney. Them back again and then just sort of you. Solo Block Training Down Journal. We're here with Callum mccloskey from T. Three C- he currently all the way around the other side of the world and spying callum. How are you? I'm Craig tally in Inventory gas days which is about an hour south of And it's a great little training environment. Frustration athletes think for the I-it's it's got everything you really need for training environment. Great writing great trials and good pool facility students extensive yard with McDonald's and a few other athletes. Who else is training with you at the moment? Yes Oh McDonald's I'm trying Fellow strident sleep. All local. Redmond's Natalie Ovid in Emma Jessica excellent. Now you've had some a couple of Rice's already while you're over the last weekend. You had a fantastic performance in European Cup Rice. Tell us how that Rice win. Is Lost Wake attributable to DNIEPER UKRAINE AGO? My first Continental to we can use right. Congratulations on this and have the rice guy. The swim was was like I was in the grade but luckily on the block really well together in this small front great and I guess it was just a rotting. Rice was made one other one other athlete going. The line I made about four hundred made his ATM. Luckily I was able to grab the tight excellent. Congratulations and then over this weekend. You local rice and boss country Sprint distances well. How did that Rice Guy I as it was a good little hit The Future Archie Racist Account It was a really he'll be brought to us in a beautiful And you know a really tough Rana's well so it's good to get this challenging courses done to path future ices excellent so he finished second to look burned in other Australian athlete. So what's coming up Knicks view? Um citing next week. I'm heading off to Morocco. She'll outfought Seattle's bang to Archie Rice in the research And then the wake up to that. I'm heading off to Halton. Premium European copying and L. I've got Justin jury hear from try on a Stra overnight. We had an amazing performance and Jake Bert were so up at the. It will try on series and leads. Justin Gripe performance from morning. Craig was a great one for Jacobsen's spectrum not too long ago and he was obviously Extremely happy with that. He's been knocking on the door for wall and to finally pull it all together and he had an outstanding run to run away from the field that head all of the two thousand twelve and two thousand sixteen podium place getters for the miles at the Olympics yet. Look it was certainly something Jake's wanted for wall And partly bought his own. He's had a slow stop to the season. Obviously of sleep a strategy. That are no this one's being Gnawing at him to get up for the win Particularly the standard distance w rice. I great to say him Achieve and Fahim certainly significance as he heads towards the The test event which is the auto qualified fifth straight on. This week's coach's corner we've got dive Williams from fortitude performance. Coaching talking about preparation the night before. Can I cry out how I am? I try and keep this one. Awesome simple Often everyone has Tom Constraints in their die and They've slaughtered at two for example. They often try to say look. I've got a full workday. The only time I I can fit a session needing a run or something is before work before work means six. Am Start Five thirty nine so often when you get up at that time of the morning when not Thinking clearly we kind of be rushed or with slept in the alarms type of thing so typically this week is about being prepared getting self preferred the not before. When you're a little bit more comedy on the stand you kind of get your shoes socks pants. If you look at the right I might be a bit called expert. Call to make sure he got some gloves. Or some Beanie Ryan get a jacket. Rainy all apply step. And not before so when you wake up in the morning. It's all they don't have to about it too much. It's bad putting out on out the door in such a great tip and also loo health-conscious generally is also a good idea. Maybe make your lunch in the food for the next hour of the night before as well as this which we often do. But you can extend that all the way through to your session that you're trying to give four in the morning signed for swam as well. He can do the same thing I make. Make sure you got your kit bag. Ready Your town you you change of clothes. If you've got guys this stripe from the pool to work and that sort of thing. Same same thing applies its membership. Time membership renewals open. You can log in and you can manually renew your ICT membership and traffic on USTRALIA membership now auto renews take place on festive July. And also if you're someone new to the sport you can also now become a member and sign up to your club. Try and try from Australia. All among guy for coaches something new. This year you have re accreditation you would have received an amount so actually check that out fully through that process takes a little bit of time but and there's just some a few things that you need to make sure you're up to date with and that's important because athletes need to ensure that the coaches are doing the right things and a continuous evolving educating themselves. This week on out and about here the trough on inclusion workshop with Glenn Status at some buildings Glean. What did you find really useful from today's session? I think today's session was really good at highlighting that most people of various abilities are able to participate whether or not they have a disability fiscal intellectual. It's more about the club and environment and coaches going through process talking to the person and trying to adapt spice the situation and training to that particular person. So it's really exciting to maybe expand what we offer to people with different abilities. It's important that the being jaw big adaptive with such an important part of being a coach. It doesn't matter whether you work with with which athletes you working with the young all the have a disability or not and you know I think what the you sean through when we took say around autism aspect I mean for for the autism aspects and really for a lot of it was actually exactly the same as it is for most athletes. Everyone is individual. They're different places. Empoisoned time you have to be very clear for autism in in particular to that communication clear communication being very precise with what you say anyone can get confused but it becomes more imported scenarios trough. Nicety is some amazing sponsors and partners with Sport and recreation camp traveling on a sterling proximity e y roff classic. Bmw Sports Physiotherapy Camera. Southern Cross club the run the shop camera Red Hill Super Express H. Two Marine Lonsdale Street Surgery Elite Energy Events Virgin Australia product clothing training peaks and star outdoor December. If you're in cameron you want some new running shoes. The runners shop currently has a winter sow on to go in there and check them out. the starting line. This is for those people who are pretty new to the sport and today we're talking about training buddies and just how important they are. It can be quite hard. Motivate yourself to train all the time especially when it's cold and dock and it's so much easier to get out of bed if you know that there is someone out there waiting for you. Training with a friend can make your sessions more fun. Suffering is better shit hero say less likely to get bored as just chatting encouraging. Each other can help us time more quickly. It's a great way to make friends and I've done. This made almost complete strangers and become training buddies and made some pretty good friends. It's particularly relevant. If you've just joined a new club. Training together is a great way to get to know someone while at training. I think you less to worry about saying the wrong thing at the wrong time. You're more open. And you be equally suffering to the top of the hill so shared experiences a definite benefit of training with someone. And it's a pretty special thing so whether it's the suffering whether it's the sunrise or whether it's the coffee at the end of the year rod everything is better with a friend whistleblower. This is where we talk about rules and making sure you're aware of some that you may not be aware off this week. We're talking about full attention not using any equipment that will distract the athlete from paying full attention to this surroundings. So you may not use communication devices of any type including but not limited to my wall phones. Smart watches headphones and two-way radios. In any destructive MENA during the competition destructive Bennett includes is not limited to making and receiving phone calls sending and receiving text messages. And for those. That can't stop working emails or even using social media or for like photography and like the seniors the long you can't take photographs using a communication device is distracted minute journey. Come Titian may result in disqualification. And we don't want that this week's clubs spotlight. We're talking with transient multisport around what they club does. I'm here with Guy Jones. Go tell us about chancy mortgage for so. When I started transcend multisport. I wanted to create environment. We everyday asia-europe athletes pool levels could could get high quality. Science-based cartoon support individualized the unique circumstances and goals and I wanted to keep that really accessible so that everyone had access to extensive. We're focusing on age. Group is here and your bicy- camera. Generally how many athletes do you have in your squad? Is it a big squad? Medium squad small squad so we're quite a small scored at the moment so from any from time to time any way between twelve and twenty people just depending on what races coming up with the people in off season in the like. And so for you with your club what values do focus on so we work really hard on nurturing coacher of respect inclusiveness and integrity integrity isn't just about. I guess you know morals it's about it's about the way that you approach training and the way that you purchase goals and also the way that you you kind of public with a goal so so our athletes really good with supporting each other in achieving their goals and it doesn't really matter how big or small those are so we've got athletes who are elite athletes who were chasing into national titles down to people who just want to do this five k running. Rice Excellency. Accounting for broad range there and they come together on. Do you have each week? How does that kind of work? So we have a number of training sessions throughout the week and we also have a focus on on skills in clubs. They're really focusing on on developing the skills of our athletes over time to complement the training programs that they're working towards excellent and you also have one on one type online coaching as well to developing it out specific training programs for each person. That's right so I fully customized. I'm utilizing great online tools like a like training peaks and Bray Training fully customized to the individual. And what they need. Some goals are excellent. Incandescent athletes join your club at anytime of the yet they certainly can Through the Trough Stra membership portal except now with transient multi. Sport is your for you when they come into to join the squad or join the club. Do they go through a certain price of dinner? They sit down with you. How does it work? So with annual athletes will try and meet up for coffee and I'll have a chat with them also provide them with a with a questionnaire to fill in which just gives me a little bit of insight into into whether athletically at the time but also what they goals and values are and what they hoping to achieve out of out of a relationship with US X. Zone so if you're looking for a job that provides specialized coaching design around your specific needs as well as having group sessions thing contact trends in Mogae sport at Info at transcend multi sport dot com How stuff works this week. We've got just drew. Who's in. Who's in charge of the high performance program for traffic on a strategy? And we're GONNA talk about how Athletes Australia qualify for the tar. Kyar Twenty Twenty Olympics Justin. Can you talk us through how the process works show? Craig? I'm probably two components to the relevant Which is a little bit different across the Pixel cooled to previous Olympic cycles And mainly that's due to the introduction mixed realize disciplined so countries qualify quota now initially extreme lay and without going into the details of that is an opportunity fuel ranked within the top seven nations of the mixed relay. Point score world series. She'll call you'll to initial quota positions purge in the third quota position is qualified boy any nation that ranks three individuals in the world. Top thirty ice on the Individual Olympic qualifying ranking so the Olympics itself and the selections for individuals will be very much for I am by that quota First and then we move into what amounts to the individual selection process. Which in the case of Australia is the taste of it. Coming up this August in Turkey. the qualification. There for automatic is a top three finish so obviously for although athletes. I firstly want to be on the start line for the test of in And then it's up to them to put their hand up and put it beyond a reasonable doubt that you're going to the Olympic Games with a bicycler twelve month window to prepare the rest of our policy then drops back to discretionary and we will select light and that more heavy input -cations based on qualification individual tracking and also extremely light performance. So this year throws in Massari. This Olympic campaign throws and saw a different aspect with having a mixed team relay so our Magin. Those discretionary sponsor GonNa come down to birth. Your how well you can get the mix of performing in the in the individual event versus who are the best athletes for that team of because it is a lot shorter rice animating. I think we we see it as a nation. I mean we have a commitment and a belief that we have the athletes to perform individually and definitely believe we head towards the Olympics Olympics is a genuine medal. Prospect admixture lay Commonwealth Games gold medalists in heaven. Finish worse than second in the last world championships. In extremely light means you want to pay To to be successful in Tokyo excellent. Thanks Justin going exciting nixed twelve months of qualifying for the Australian Trough on athletes. And the DOING CIPRIANI. Well right now. So we look forward to seeing on the team in Tokyo on twenty twenty What's happening? Emily? A Lotta things Craig. We have the ANIELA woods coming up on the twenty eighth of June. The Special Award finalists have been announced on the website in the latest news. Section on the homepage. Young Women's Leadership Program is on the thirteenth of July redistributions have closed. We will be the attain. D's have been announced. Check them out. They're also the homepage news section to the development course which will be held at the Irs on the twentieth and twenty first of July and then the seventh and eighth of September registrations close on Sunday twenty third June. It's only a few days away so make sure you get signed up for that within the foundation courage course on the seventeenth and adding to August registrations closed twenty two July. You can register for those now. This one's an event that I'm toying with doing the Sri Chinmoy offered ufo on on the fourth of August. And if you keep listening to this episode you'll hear from the rights organizer for shots. Digman later on the show. Great insight into how trifling started in camera and the early days right through to the events they still ron and ICT do athletes falling to September. Makes you start rediscovering now? We hit today with stigma from Sri Chinmoy. He's vain he's a loss of Charleston. Ict He's been in the sport for very very long time. And I have the proof today of bringing you his story. A bit of background around the rices. Thanks very much cry guitar. It's great to be expensive. Tell us a little bit. How you got onto Trifon. Well I started. I was a music student. So it's got nothing to do with trump. I was studying classical piano and I felt the need to learn to meditate to help me with my Studies and especially with my performance. So that's what I got me into going to meditation classes. Those meditation classes happened to be run by the Sri Chinmoy Center. At the time I knew nothing about reaching royalist reaching Moise android is just to meditation classes. Now certainly didn't have any idea that were involved in athletics and And running and triathlons but at the time I first started coming over which was in one thousand nine hundred to the Sri Chinmoy mouth on tape had actually just put on the first public trifling in astride a couple of years before that. And where was that? That was inadequate in ninety ninety one and then one of the local athletes gigolo approached us in nineteen ninety-three. Two Cy look. Why don't you guys put on a triathlon scene camera? Because it's an idea location. You've got a great like fantastic roads. Excellent blackouts running. He's the one is the one who selected the sort of Yama by and suggests that that way we should look at so in January nine ninety four the first trial held in the ICT was held. The shooting triathlon. It was in those days. They weren't standard distances of triathlon. So I think it was two point three K swim. Something like a fifty five k. Bike and a sixteen Kyron. I could be wrong on that but it was something like that. There were fifty five competitors. Would change rooms you you. You stopped chain between the black and Bach. It'd rain the whole the whole the whole day. It was really tough experience as an organizer at the end of it. We all swore that we would never ever do it again. And brilliant and so progressing from the that. That was kind of really early days. Trump won globally Lorna strategy. But it was just starting out you might have had. That was an trough on that point. The plane had started. Yes I think the before so it was a early dies and and obviously from the event they grew quite rapidly and the street will try on weekend. I I'm not sure exactly what it was called. Become one of the biggest trough on events in Australia it was. Yeah right through the ninety S as I was fifty five athletes. The first year the next year there were two hundred and something the year after four hundred so it went like that and then in Nineteen Ninety. We added the what was called the mini trial which was a sprint distance triathlon. As a way of sort of giving more people an opportunity to participate by that stage the longer race had evolved into. What's now known as the long course or have on distance And then we just kept adding rises and it became a three day of ain't it rises at one stage with short rises for kids an off road triathlon and behind all ultra triathlon. Which you could do as well which was fifteen k. Swim Four Hundred Block and one hundred K run so the ultimate Australia's short now and it's not even as long as what it used to be. That's right that was the longest triathlon. We've had Australia. And that lasted about six or seven years but due to not a very high demand for that. This wasn't sustainable to keep going. And so then those early nineties or or even late eighties early nineties. There were some phenomenal triathletes here in Cambra albeit some really big names. Yeah we did. Most of the big names in Australia came in and raced that he is. My my memory's pretty high but you know you could pick out any nine to rice. Certainly sort of the nineties hit the LIKES OF GASOLINE CLUES. You use rods. Ours would have been racing speaking malls. Recently he came down to camera quite often and he said I love that Rice at least one so Beca Lazuli dies in listeners. That feeling you enroll to triathlon. You could rice without a top on so Easter see guys racing and just speed Os and are no. When I was growing up through that Period Zealand there was quite a bit angst. When that rule coming to apply Sakaba places shirt over top of the torture you to cover it and was at the same Australia like is it. Was that a challenging rule. Change that people just accepted it and went straight and I think for most people. It wasn't wasn't a big deal. There's there's always going to be the individual who's got issues with any rule or any rule change if you get used to something then you'd like to see a change but I was never aware of anyone being upset about it okay. So you're now you've got your triple triathlon in you. Have the off road to athlon here. Kind of the two events that a left winded. The triple try begin and you know for me it is. I never heard about it until I arrived in camera but to me. It's one of the most phenomenal rices in the world. It's a right which is really unique to camera and it was conceived out of being camera. It was first held in actually nine hundred ninety five. We had a trial with just five teams. Just you know no entry fee. Now if he's just sort of see how it went and the feedback we got from that was encouraging so ninety. Ninety six was the first official triple triathlon. By that stage. We were studying heavy issues with the on road triathlons with traffic and traffic management and so many other things and we were just attracted to the offroad stall event and with camera having three likes you know. I had the idea. Let's connect US relax. Let's have a swimming each leg and then realize that Gashi between you go to laze wonderful areas of Niger. Reserve that you can connect with mountain box and off ride running. So the event just kind of was created by Canberra's natural environment and for always listening. It is three back to back trough on events. I think the record for the guys is around. Ten hours was bob minutes. Yep and which has just recently so it's a very challenging event. It's you know it's head. Extremes weather over the his eye on my face G here had to be cancelled because of thirty nine degrees. And I'm sure it's heads in cold weather as well being in November. Yes it is is variable. You do get very hot days and your call and windy and rainy days as well. But we've also had some fantastic dies it's event Canberra athletes love because it showcases. You know everything about why we love to live in Canberra and train and rising camera. I think all triathletes will train on some of the tracks that are used in the course of the trip triathlon. At your back door. You'll be five ten minutes away from one of the tracks. We beat on Black Mountain. Mount Madeira or Mount Ainslie. All Pharaoh Ridge or all of these areas are beloved by Kendra athlete so to have the opportunity to Rice on the backyard is glad through and differently so if you will you let did you compete. Try Funds in the early years or or right through not. I was never tried late. I mean I've done a couple of triathlons Sort of to prove that I could because I was never a swimmer. I have a running background so that that was I was always more interested in in running and more or less got involved in triathlons. Because we had this. Ain't you know and And I loved organizing and I love the challenge the logistic challenge and also of course the people Triathletes and athletes in general a very motivated and very young aspiring. Looking to live life to the fallen. That's what that's what we love to see. So it's it's always challenging. It's always very rewarding to be involved with these type of challenging events and what I love about these events is we've seen the advent of I'm an challenge and I to you. Everything's about how it looks. You know there's a lot involved in those big rices or love about the street. Rises FOR IT IS SIMPLE. It is grassroots it reminds me of when. I started in the eighties. And it's got that special unique touch to it that a lot of people keep coming back to because of that really can re real community feel and that sort of low price fall aspect to it. So it's fantastic. If keep those ingredients as part of your rices well thanks. It's good to hear but you absolutely right. You know. We're not the Muslim things not a business. We put on rises to make money and I guess I mean I totally understand if your business and putting on a rise to make money. You've got a different approach to make a profit you want to. Of course we want athletes coming to the races. But we're not looking to create an atmosphere that he's GonNa Generate Revenue. We're looking to create an atmosphere where athletes have the best opportunity to to do their best rice. And so I guess I'll motivations different and our inspiration is different. Why the reason we put the Rice's on so I mean there's room for all kinds of races this there's room for the big resumes loud rock music at the finish line type of event. But there's definitely room for the simple humble becton talk events. We lock and for me when I first got the winning sore did as part of a tame the really cool thing for me at the finish line was probably the best recovery off saying out of these gigantic pancakes witted. How did that start out? Good question we've always had food at triathlon festivals. You know the finish line at the end of the Phoenix as a triathlon. There's a we have a vegetarian restaurant in Dixon. Rambo dreams little plug there for anyone opposite the post office puff along if you want to have good vegetarian meal. So we've got a lot of good kooks in our organization. It's all vegetarian food. That's part of our philosophy so a lot of athletes are also looking to will and to eat healthy food so we've always had that aspect of the event the larger events we started. Doing pancakes actually was our sister organization in Melbourne. This reaching Maryland team did. I started doing the pancakes and it was big. Hit this of course we copied them and started doing pancakes for running events and for the over Jerusalem if you otherwise for the for the Trial run series for example because they held a little later in the day. We have a burger sort of a brunch for Lance. You've got the off road to F coming up on August. The fourth Sunday always the fourth Jonah explained to our listeners. What's involved and how can find out more information? Definitely what involved is off road duathlon? It's a genuine Bush rise in the heart of the city Around Black Mountain Peninsula. In what is a very rare incidents? The first run is held in the National Botanic Gardens. It's the only sporting event ever been allowed to happen in the National Botanic Gardens. So that's a rea- to be able to run. Excuse me to be able to run around then. The mountain bike course and the second run Cosa role on tracks and trials around Black Mountain. There's a long and the short course option. The short course option is relatively straightforward as suitable for beginners and kids whereas long course specially those second run is is really tough so if you want a bigger challenge go for the long course if you want something simpler or faster governor short goes and you can do it. In teams of two with a run around the Baga teams up and if you want more information a dot switching dot org is L. Website Excel. And we'll put that link in the shower nights and obviously you can find it on the traffic. Ict website as well. Thank you very much not just for coming on the interview today but for the amazing work that you don four trough on endurance sports. Because you do a lot of running here as well since the early eighty s and nineteen eighty three. The first event right through still going strong. Imagine it's the longest running trough on series in Australia. Not the longest running triathlon. Maybe the longest running trough on series. So we thank you so much as said earlier life member and just it's an absolute privilege to speak to each that. It's my honor and my privilege and We wouldn't be doing it after all these years if it didn't give a tremendous amount of satisfaction and and reward as well so we do it because we love and we'll keep doing it because we keep that's a wrap. What a great show. It's amazing in the middle of one to everyone thinks nothing happens in triathlon but as you would have heard today there's so much going on so much on so much actually. My head is four. I actually missed something earlier. So with the bill awards at standing achievement went to Michael. Quinn twelve marathons in twelve months. And he's now training for an on man. This could not swim when he came along to to stop trifling excellent. Maybe shouldn't twelve ocean swims in twelve to work on assuming maybe this is next to us as leads to Armand so we look forward to seeing how he's going Is Exciting. So we look forward to seeing everyone at the trough on. Ict Awards on the twenty eighth. June makes you come along. Tickets still available. We've opened them up until the end of this week. So make sure you get on income. Celebrate the mazing achievements and talk about all the exciting stuff that's going on especially on the trough on. Act Poker so emily. Thanks for your time Craig. It's been great. I enjoy this via part of the triathlon. Act Community by visiting www dot triathlon. Act DOT COM TODAY. You if you enjoyed this episode of the triathlon. Act Const weaned card. You share it on facebook. Instagram handling dim and lay review on your favorite podcast APP. 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Chinese woman arrested for illegally entering Mar-a-Lago during Trump's visit, Democrats serve four subpoenas to Trump administration officials, Trump doubles down on border threat even if it hurts economy

Erin Burnett OutFront

44:25 min | 2 years ago

Chinese woman arrested for illegally entering Mar-a-Lago during Trump's visit, Democrats serve four subpoenas to Trump administration officials, Trump doubles down on border threat even if it hurts economy

"Everyone. It's poppy Harlow on this week's episode of boss files one on one with Gwyneth Paltrow. But not as when it's a famous actress rather when the CEO she's built goop to a two hundred fifty million dollars business, but you helped me still feels like an impostor sometimes as CEO loss what she's learned from Disney, and why did you reach down to Amazon founder Jeff Bezos. Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. Xeni offers thousands of affordable. Eyewear styles starting at just six ninety five. No ridiculous markups. No hassles. Just quality affordable. I wear delivered right to you visits. Any today at Xeni dot com slash CNN. Next. Breaking news. Federal prosecutors charging Chinese woman with illegally entering Trump's mar-a-lago. She had four cell phones laptop a hard drive and the thumb drive with malware this as the president was spending the weekend at mar a Lago. Plus breaking news, how stem serving White House staffers was four subpoenas. That news literally coming in this hour and the president threatening to shut down the southern border Republicans now ardently against it. Does the president fluffing empty threats? Let's go out front. Good evening. I'm Erin Burnett out front tonight. The breaking news a stunning security breach. Authorities arresting a Chinese woman for trying to lie her way into Marla go last weekend while the president of the United States was staying there, and what she had on her is raising serious concerns tonight. According to prosecutors, we have the entire document here. What they're a filing. She was holding two passports from the Republic of China for cellphones, a laptop computer and external hard drive and a thumb drive that contained malicious, malware according to prosecutors. The woman claimed they Chinese friend named Charles told her to travel from Shanghai tomorrow Lago to speak with a member of Trump's family. Shwim procam passes out front. Okay. Shimon look on a lot of levels pretty pretty disturbing. You know, some of it you go my gosh. This is this real life. Okay. It is do investigators have any idea who this person really is. And what she was doing at mar-a-lago. So that is the big question certainly this hour. Aaron is exactly why would she their authorities? Not telling us why she was there why they think she was really they're they're obviously investigating the secret service other law enforcement partners are looking into this. The thing is what's really troubling. Is she got on the grounds? She was able to communicate to secret service agents. She was there first she said, she was there to go to the pool when she went to a separate area another checkpoint. She said she was there to talk to the president's family. She wanted to talk about relations economic relations with the with the Chinese, obviously all very troubling. Because secret service agent started discovering that her story wasn't making sense. And one of the most troubling. Things. I think in reading all this thumb drive that you just talked about that. There was this malicious software on it. And the whole point of this is a thirties. Want to know is was this designed in a way was this. Thumb drive designed in a way to deliver this malicious software and was there something else going on here? And obviously the big question for them is who centre did what she sent there by somebody. Or did she come up with this whole idea herself a lot of questions certainly under counterintelligence side? And what this is really about for thirties as they try to dive into this. And they certainly are. And they're going to go through her, computer. They're going to go through her cell phone that thumb drive. They already know what's on there. And they have to figure out now, and they can do this. Erin Weirs mala wear from perhaps is there a country that it's associated with all of that is going to be key parts of this investigation for law enforcement. All right. Thank you very much amount. I mean, it is deeply concerning. How far she got by the way, make it very clear. She didn't have anything to go. Swimming in her bag, right? So she was really there with this malware her four cell phones and her two passports out front now. Jack Weiss former federal prosecutor in cybersecurity expert Juliette Kyon former assistant secretary for homeland security and Bob Baer former CIA operative, so Bob, what does this look like deal looks like a Chinese operation? The fact she came from Shanghai is know Chinese would would center from Shanghai, Republican, China, passports, they use all the time, you know, to deflect suspicion in an operation like this. It clearly Aaron it was very clumsy, but normal people don't carry four cell phones and malware with them especially going into what's essentially, you know, the the White House in Florida, right? I mean and Juliette she shows up at first sort of acts like she doesn't really understand English. Right. And part of the reason she got as far as she did is her last name is John which is it looks like Zang in English, and there's someone who's a member of mar-a-lago with that last name. So they they let her in. In as far as she got. And she acts like she doesn't really understand English. But then when they apprehend her and start talking to her and handing her pieces of paper to read they say, she exhibited a detailed knowledge of and ability to converse in and understand even subtle nuances of the English language, which it seems like she was pretending. She couldn't do. Right. So she was pretending to be the sort of, you know, not not English speaking cousin of someone who was a member trying to get in. And then she knows that possibly that. She's exposed I'd agree with Bob. This looks like some entity, and it could be corporation or the Chinese trying to get in. I think the only question I have now is essentially why does it look so clumsy? I'm always curious when things look really clumsy is was this a with did they intend for her to get caught? Was this a statement by country or corporation, knowing how open a mar-a-lago is knowing that? The Trump administration has not been good at every story. This week has been about security clearances about the openness of secrets and accessibility by our enemies, and and and sort of disappointment by our allies who know the how clumsy this White House is and it's giving security clearances to people don't know. So I think all of these stories are connected, which is essentially a door wide open. Is is what the White House is telling to our enemies about the secrets of the United States and our national security. I mean, Jack when you look at what she had for cell phones laptop external hard drive. Thumb drive which had malicious malware on it. What do you make of all of that? Whether this was clumsy or not, well, the only thing she didn't have as a bathing suit. And she said she was going swimming there. So Juliet and Bob make it. I would add okay. If she's clumsy how many people have gotten into mar-a-lago over the past two years who weren't says clumsy. I mean, it's stunning. How far she got in? And so my suspicion is she's not the first and Juliet's, right? This is a weak with the security clearance issue. We see the front doors and the back doors open to this administration. Well, this has been a big concern. Bob is mar-a-lago, and it's septa -bility to foreign influence, right? All these people. You know, you pay your money to become a member of the club. Oh, exactly. And we know we've talked about this Erin that if you want to get to the president you go mar-a-lago you can. Get around the secret service because it's a private place and everybody knows that from the Russians to the Chinese any hostile intelligence service. If you want the president's secret go tomorrow Lago, whether it's somebody who owned Saggio parlor or somebody with malware, go tomorrow law, go, you can get all the secrets you need. Don't try it at the White House, which is well protected. So Juliet, according to the charge Documenta wanna read one other thing this whole issue of how she said she got there. She claims, okay. Her Chinese friend, Charles told her to travel from Shanghai to Palm Beach to attend this event. It was a sort of a US China event. She said an attempt to speak with a member of the president's family about Chinese and American foreign economic relations. Then they agents tried to get more information about Charles Zan claims. She had spoken to him through a messaging service popular in China. They don't know anything about this guy. Anything it seems so bizarre. Yeah. And everyone has to seem that this is all. Ally that she's, you know, essentially, an agent of someone and I keep mentioning corporation because the Chinese corporations are also very interested in our secrets or national security secrets as we well know in terms of telecoms, and and missile deployments or missile buildings and things like that. So it so she's an agent of someone just comes up with the story. There's no Charles in China. You know, there's there's no Charles in China, or whatever his name is. And and she tries to essentially get out of it. You know by trying to sort of concoc- this story. I think there's a gem of interesting aspect to this this part of of the law enforcement materials, which is they don't seem shocked in in the in what they wrote then someone from China is trying to get tomorrow law. Go to talk to the president or his family about an international or business deal. That's not the surprising part to them because one has to soon that's happening all the time as we well know. What's surprising is of course, at her story doesn't match right? I mean jacket that is the point right? That that that in and of itself they were able to check and say there was no such an happening. But the fact that there would be uninventive happening while the president was there that was between the US and China didn't didn't ended up itself caused any concern. No it didn't. And let's face it. When we all read this arrest warrant, the secret service does not come off looking great in this check after check. And because name sorta kinda sounds like John they let her through. So I mean, whatever word you wanna use culturally clueless racist, you would think they would do a little better. Yeah. No, no, one comes out looking good. As far as Chinese intelligence may be. She's just cannon fodder fake. They send one person going trying to go swimming a week at mar-a-lago until someone gets through. Right. And and Bob that's the the question is what she would have done with them all with the malware will Jackson and know this mean once you get into the WI fi logs and the rest of it. And you always want to do an entry. If you have a choice into a building as. Oppose to standing away, the wifi know, they could get conversations that could do harmonic turn on microphones in parts of the system. The Chinese are very good. And by the way, all their signals intelligence, whether it's corporate or not runs through the Chinese army. They there's a law that they have to report the Chinese army. So even Juliet is right. Even if it is a corporation that messed up there still at the end of the day reporting to the Chinese army. And of course, I've got this this this arrest here. And you know, what what happens to her Jack from here, of course, whether she. Interesting extradited interesting, whether they turn this into an espionage case, depending on what they find. But then they need to prove knowledge on her part, right? Okay. Thank you, all very much and next breaking news. Democrats just serving White House officials with four subpoenas tonight, plus President Trump replacing Mexico with a new villain as he's threatens to shut down the Mexican border. We don't make. Deal with congress. The border is going to be closed hundred percent and President Trump ripping into the mayor of San Juan calling her craze and incompetent, well, guess what? She's out front. She'll respond. Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. Our friends at Xeni optical offer, a huge variety of high quality stylish frames and state of the art optics starting at just six ninety five. You can get multiple frames with this great pricing for less than one pair. Elsewhere start building your eyewear wardrobe from the comfort of your own home at Zanny dot com. With the latest trends in eyewear available and hundreds of frame styles and materials there isn't a better way to change it up for every season. Plus is any offers prescription sunglasses at incredible prices. Visit Xeni today at Xeni dot com slash CNN. That's Z E N N, I dot com slash CNN. Breaking news. The house oversight committee just serving four subpoenas to the Trump administration one issued for testimony on security clearances three issued on the twenty twenty cents this including subpoenas to attorney general Bill bar and Macomer secretary Wilbur Ross Kaitlan Collins is out front the White House and Caitlyn obviously this is a big step here. These have actually been issued. It's not just the threat. It starting is the White House going to comply or fight the subpoenas so far Aaron the White House has not commented on the fact that these subpoenas have actually been served to these officials, but we know they're thinking, especially when it comes to these security clearances, so far the White House has said, they do not believe the Democrats on oversight have any right to get access to this information with the White House counsel. Pat, simple, only making the argument that President Trump has the authority here to either grant or deny these clearances so far the White House has not given the oversight committee, a single document related to their clearances requests. So that kind of leads you to believe where this is headed from here. However, it doesn't seem that this is the last unit. They're going to get related to these clearances because coming has coming to set it they do not comply with this. He's only going to continue to push and take additional steps. Now. The other subpoena was about that census question on the the citizens citizenship question on the census form that is one that actually had a Republican vote to authorize that subpoena. But we know what this that so far the White House has argued that this is going before litigation because the supreme court is said to consider that decision win about three weeks or so so the White House could potentially argued that. Now, we heard from President Trump actually just this morning weighing in on this saying that he believes the census would be meaningless without that question on there. So whether or not they comply we are so waiting and watching to see what their response is going to be to this, Erin. All right. Caitlyn? Thank you very much. And I want to go now to Harry Sandik. Former assistant US attorney for the southern district of New York and Laura coach former federal prosecutor, Harry just the White House have a choice, obviously, this is the beginning of an onslaught. But these are the first ones do they have a choice to comply. Firefight? I think they have the choice to fight. I mean, you could definitely construct arguments you could think about executive privilege or as we were just saying the existence of ongoing litigation to me. I don't think those arguments are very strong. But you know, as we saw with the Manafort sensing different judges can come out different ways on these issues, and it can take years to resolve them. And so sometimes the game they wanna play it could be a this'll continue even up to the election. If they want to run out the clock. I mean, Laura we're off. So today, we've got those subpoenas. And now, the president slamming Democrats who of course, they're threatening to issue more subpoenas, very specifically. Right, Jerry, Nadler, chairman of the House Judiciary committee. He wants the full unredacted Muller report. He wants it. Now, he's not waiting to see what Bill bar gives them. He's going now he wants to subpoena now. And here's the president's response. I think it's ridiculous. We went through two years of the Muller investigation. The attorney general now, and the deputy attorney general ruled no obstruction. They said, no obstruction. And so there's no collusion. There's no obstruction and now whether to start this process all over again, I think it's a disgrace. All right. So he doesn't want it out there Lara. But you know, it's quite a change from the president just a few days ago on releasing them. All a report here. He is. Let it come out. Let people see it. Sounds like a real change of tune to me and my right, Laura. Of course, it's a total about face, and it seems to be perhaps either for a boating or have wondering why the about face, do, you know, something it's inside of it. Or is it that it's not the complete exoneration. The president has promised. Remember part of the issue. Here is the president fundamentally understands one thing and that is in addition to the Muller investigation. There was always intended to be a congressional probe their functions and roles are very different. They're supposed to legislate if there is some basis in order to do so to try to change the ability of foreign people from trying to interfere with our elections. They always had this parallel track. They played second fiddle Aaron because the Muller probe had criminal consequences. And a lot of the witnesses did not want to be forthcoming if they had the threat of imprisonment on their side. So there was always was to happen. Like the present just wanted it to end with Mahler, but there was always supposed to be a dual track. Right. And of course, in prior investigations, Harry is that dual-track. Which has resulted in action congress, right? It is often that way, but New York magazine's Livia newsy reporting tonight that Trump's own aides are worried they're afraid that he's over selling them. All a report he's telling everybody exoneration. And that's not going to be the case. One senior White House official telling her quote, there will be plenty of unfavorable things about the president in the full report, which we think will eventually come out. So let's not go overboard saying there's no wrongdoing. I think that whoever is advising the president. That is giving good advice. We know there were five hundred search warrants executed, a search warrant requires a showing to a judge that there's probable cause to believe a crime say, okay, I'm coming in to make it clear you have to show to judge. It's legit. Exactly. So there was some evidence of criminal wrongdoing and maybe considerable evidence. Now that doesn't mean that there was enough to charge anyone, and that's a high standard and prosecutor should be reluctant to charge. But the idea that there was no evidence of anything, which is what we heard people saying the day or two after bars report just seems likely to be wrong. And Laura you've got the chairman of the house intelligence committee as you point out, right? Very different role than than Muller. But he is now saying tonight to CNN that that Bob Muller is going to testify before congress. Here's Adam Schiff. I think it is navigable that Bob Mueller is gonna have to testify, and I would presume that he may testify before multiple committees. That would be something else. What do you say Laura will happen? Well, we hope it happens. Because of course, we have not gotten an answer. The question of why Muller has punted on the question of obstruction to Bill bar did he intend to punt to Bill bar or to congress? What was that? He was unable to reach a conclusion about which was part of his mandate. And remember we've only seen what about one hundred and one words from Robert Muller's since twenty two months, the indictments he actually issued but the people want actually hear from him special counsel, not a political appointee. I'd be surprised if he didn't testify having said that I'm sure that bar will be the person who will be the immediately as on between this actual report and the American people whether that will satisfy people like Adam Schiff, it should not give him a he as a political appointee. Who essentially gave a nineteen page explanation that coincidentally coincided with decided on section of Justice, Harry this Bob Muller wanna testify. I mean, I know he's a private person. But I mean does he think that to put the truth out there that he needs to? If I or is he going to avoid it like how I mean. It's it's hard to mind read, and ultimately, it wouldn't necessarily be his decision alone. Even if he wanted to testify because he did that work for the department of Justice. I would think that they could say look you're not allowed to just call any employee of the department. But one one does wonder as all this talk swirls about what the report is if whether he or the people who worked with him are getting a little bit irritated about some of the claims being made by the administration and by people in the public. All right. Thank you very much. Both of you. And next President Trump says he may have no choice tonight. But to shut down the border the threats keep coming. They keep coming. They keep coming does. He really understand what that threat. Even means. We're live on the border tonight with a reality check. But the mayor of San Juan is out front Perv response to the president's attack on her deeply personal calling her incompetent. And the White House spokesperson who today called Puerto Rico that country. Always done in that country. They have had a systematic mismanagement of the goods and services we've sent to that. Remember to create an ad like this one visit pure winning dot com slash CNN tonight. President Trump saying one hundred percent he is ready to do it to shut down the southern border. But he is changing the terms. The president has no longer threatening to shut down the border because of Mexico's failure to stop migrants from coming into the United States. No, he has moved on Mexico is not the villain. Now. The new villain is congress. Mexico is now stopping people coming very easy for them to do stopping people coming in through Mexico. Let's see if they keep it done. If if they keep doing that. Now, if they don't or if we don't make a deal with congress the border is going to be close hundred percent. Hundred percent while the president then went on to admit the closing the border would have a negative impact on the economy. And those were the words he used, but he said loud and clear that is not what matters most and that puts him on what seems to be a very different page than both the democratic and Republican leaders of the Senate. Economic disaster to the country would be used closing down the border would have potentially catastrophic economic impact on our country. Well, that is agreement disaster and catastrophe from the top democrat and top Republican the Senate. I mean, just here's an example, if you look at the auto industry, according to a leading automotive expert, the entire US auto industry would shut down within a week if the border is closed, even if it's anything close to that it gives you a sense of the magnitude of this. And who who would that hurt? Just if you look at the pain in the automotive industry alone highest percentage of auto workers, Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee and Alabama. You can look at where those states voted in the election. Does the president understand the consequences of shutting down the southern border? Or did he come out with a big bellicose threat without thinking it through or learning the facts at eleven Dera is out front on the ground. Order residents have heard the repeated threats for weeks, and they're trying to figure out if President Trump is just flirting with disaster or serious about closing the border. We gotta stop the crime. We got a close up. We got a close up the borders telling you right now, we will close the damn border. The ports of entry and border crossings are a lifeline between the tightly integrated communities where Mexico in the United States blend together. There are twenty four ports of entry that dot the southern border from Brownsville, Texas to southern California and beyond that there are dozens of border crossings where a steady stream of people cross bridges and customs checkpoints daily. So vast array is spent nearly thirty years working as a border patrol agent. He was also a democratic congressman from El Paso. He describes the idea of shutting down the border as lunacy, I scratch my head and and wonder how much longer they're going to get away with it because you can't. It can't be good now for the president of the United States to be threatening. Or even just talking about shutting down the border is nuts. The port between t one in Mexico and California is massive in sprawling where people can wait for hours to drive across the Rato, Texas is the largest inland. Port along the border with special bridges designed to accommodate nearly four point six billion trucks every year carrying everything from car parts food clothing electronics, and there are even tiny crossings like this in far west, Texas where you can take a rowboat across the Rio Grande to the other side. All of this would theoretically grind to a halt across the United States between five and six million American jobs directly rely on trade with Mexico, everything from fortune five hundred companies to the mom and pop shops that are part of the colorful border landscape would feel the pain says John Zarrella, he's the CEO of a group called. Order plex alliance that advocates for hundreds of Mexican and American businesses that rely on international trade and the pain won't be restricted to border towns. It would impact the entire country uncertainty is the enemy of job growth and investment and closing the border creates an error of uncertainty, even the threat of closing the border creates at Arab uncertainty. And Erin tonight on border towns as we see people walking back leaving work tonight. And you can see there in the distance all of those people who have probably been waiting hours to get from Mexico into a Paso people, really dealing. We've been asked multiple times is the border closed. Can we get across many people worried about whether or not if indeed this does happen if they're going to be on the right side of the border. So these are very real life concerns that these folks are doing thank you very much. I literally can see that line behind as as he speaking. I want to go now to the assistant house speaker congressman Ben right Luhan who's out front congressman year from a border state, New Mexico. Eddie, obviously standing along the border in Texas tonight. Do you think the president is going to go through with this threat that he has been so adamant about making he has been so black and white about making is he going to shut down the border? Well, I hear and this is a bad idea. No matter how you look at it. I think many of us are very concerned that the president may go through with this. You spell this out. Very clearly if the president closed down the southern border, this would devastate the auto industry across America, including all those manufacturing jobs where they're assembling vehicles. It would devastate farmers are already feeling the squeeze because of the president's games with tariffs. And in addition to that you look at all of the healthcare facilities across America that depend on equipment that is also coming into the United States through the southern border. It would devastate the ability to access care in many communities. So this is bad all around. And I can't imagine that the president won't come to his senses to stop this. Senseless political gain we should be working together to make sure to dressing challenges. I just can't imagine why he's doing this. All right. Well, he doesn't like to be told what to do we all know that and and sort of the more here's hear people like you or Mitch McConnell. You know, sometimes he kind of goes the opposite way right and today trying to now say he's not even mad at Mexico anymore. Now, he's putting the onus on you on Democrats specifically saying you guys have to come to the table when we play again what he said. What we have to do is congress has to meet quickly and make a deal. I could do it in forty five minutes. Can't do it in forty five minutes. Will you give him Forty-five minutes? Look if the president wants to work with congress, congress is willing to work with him. But the president will invite the cameras in he'll make deal, and then he'll walk away from it. And again, all the president's doing. Here's playing political games in posturing. Why would he threaten the US economy threatened the entire auto industry threatened farmers across America with these idle threats, look, Mr President, if you want to work together reach out to congress, we're willing and ready to where there's been no indication that you've gotten well, not listen house speaker, you know, not that I'm aware of Aaron. And here's the thing that we just passed an important package that opened up the government that included investments in border security and humanitarian aid to the border is the president even using those funds. I mean, there's a big question Mark surrounding how this administration and the secretary of the homeland security department are operating politicos report. Tonight. The House Democrats are considering a vote to condemn the president over his calls to shut down the border, a formal statement. And I guess the question is to you. Are you considering that just to force Republicans to go on the record and oppose the president is that what you're doing trying to force the hand of your colleagues across the aisle. Look, I think it's important that Democrats and Republicans come together on this issue. And we're hearing pushback to the president's threat to shut down the border, which would devastate the US economy. We're hearing condemnation coming from Democrats and Republicans here. So if the president wants to work with us, we should work together. But it's important that congress use every tool that we have to be loud and clear that this is a bad idea and the president should walk away from it. All right tonight. The president responded to the house there's a house vote, obviously to artists pain the full Muller report in he originally, as you know, it said absolutely no problem. I want everyone to see it. I want the American people. See it very different tonight. Here's what he said. I think it's ridiculous. We went through two years of the Muller investigation. The attorney general now and the deputy attorney general no obstruction. They said, no obstruction. And so there's no collusion. There's no obstruction. And now we're going to start this process all over again. I think it's a disgrace. So what's going on here? He said he wanted everybody to see it. No problem is he completely changing his tune. I think he's gonna try to block it or now. Well, look, if the president has nothing to worry about he should fully support releasing the report to the American people, congress has already voted four hundred twenty two zero Democrats and Republicans came together to say make this report public. So again, this doesn't surprise me that the president may be changing his mind because he seems to do that a lot again, Mr President you have nothing to worry about make this report available to the American people into the congress congress in Luhansk, thanks for your time. Thank you. 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President Trump's spokesman referring to Puerto Rico as another country. Here's HOGAN Gidley. Always done in that country. They have had a systematic mismanagement of the goods and services, we've sent to them I think referred to Puerto Rico, isn't that country of territory. Yes, okay territory. I'm so that was a mistake flip account onto persists wanted on our set. Gillies comment coming as President Trump escalates. His feud with Puerto Rico's leaders tweeting quote female in the military worked emergency miracles but politicians like the craze and incompetent mayor of San Juan have done such a poor job of bringing the island back to health well out front now. The San Juan mayor Carmen, Julian crews and mayor crews, thank you very much. So it would be remiss if I didn't start with the president here. He calls you crazed and incompetent your response. The president lives in. I don't have worked were trying to pin people against one another. I guess it's easier for him to try and me down cannot. You know, one Eleanor Roosevelt used to say, no one can make you feel inferior without your consent while Mr President. We don't consent you were beating Preston, you don't know what you were talking about you continue to lie, and you continue to mistreat people. And that's just the way you do policy. One of the things earn if he doesn't get his way he'll throw a little temper tantrum. And he will just try and ditch anybody he can he did it a few weeks ago when he couldn't get the money for the border. He left eight hundred thousand federal employees without the ability to take food to their families. That's exactly what he's doing to Puerto Rico one point three million Puerto Ricans need, some sort of food stamps systems to put food on the table out of that forty five percent are children elderly and disabled citizens. It is remarkable that the president cannot understand that he's gotten this all. Wrong. And it's like a virus? It continues to sit down you just quoted the deputy communications officer from the White House calling us that people Rick Scott Senator recently coming into the Senate saying that he will only support the kind of aid that the president is going to approve well. Mayor the president himself you point out with HOGAN Gidley said, you know, obviously, referring to it as that country. The president himself tweeted Puerto Rican politicians, quote, only take from the USA. I mean does the president even even even recognize in any important way any meaningful way, the Puerto Ricans are citizen of citizens of the United States of America? The person doesn't care he has proven time and time again that he's in this to look good. You know, he he thinks this is about him. He never got it when I pleaded and I asked him for help. He never got that. This was about saving lives. He doesn't get that. This is about putting food on the table. And what does he do he tries to pin Puerto Ricans against farmers in the mid west. Who are also in dire. Need off getting the help. This is not help. This is what governments that have a moral platform to stand up, which of course, the president does not do. Do when the people that are governed by them need assistance. They provide us as and moreover he lies ninety one billion dollars have not gotten to Puerto Rico. The Washington Post says that eleven and thirteen billion dollars have gotten to Puerto Rico three thousand people died on his watch. And he's not even barest to make your point about the ninety one billion. Yes, the Washington Post only eleven billion of that has gone to the island and the rest of it is money set aside and money that eventually he says may be needed. Right. So so that number doesn't add up at all. But the president does say that the money Puerto Rico has it has not been spent wisely. Here's how he put it there. You do have a mayor of San Juan that frankly, doesn't know what she's doing and the governor they got to spend the money wisely. They don't know how to spend the money, and they're not spending it wisely. Obviously personally, again striking at you as well. As the governor Puerto Rico did declare the one hundred twenty three billion dollars, essentially in bankruptcy, which was the first time in history, a state or territory of the United States has done. So does he have a point at all mayor about Puerto Rico accounting for the money? You're receiving. Oh, absolutely. And one of the things that I have asked Benny Thompson. The president of the homeland security committee is to set up some sort of a derived. Data point where we couldn't ball seaworthy money has on. But let me get you point. For example, FEMA right now is in the process still up, providing the cities of San Juan and all the rest of the cities in Puerto Rico, the money that they are supposed to be burst. And this is from the immediate aftermath the hurricane, of course. People have to be accountable for the money that is given in order to do the reconstruction and the recovery, but he doesn't have to lie. You know, why he lies because he made this. And he's spun this as a good news story. This is Trump's Katrina. This is not a good news story. It has never been a good news story for him. The Pentagon nuit. That's why they wrote him little emails telling him to ignore when I called out for help back in September. And October of twenty seventeen the American people. Who are so much different from the United States from from the president of the United States. No, that's what they flocked to Puerto Rico by the hundreds to help us to feed us to tend to our wounds. So, of course, one has to be accountable for the money, but the president is unable to give one example of worth that money has been missed us. He is all about the talk is not about doing. What is right or or really trying to get people to come together, the empathy? All right, mayor crews. Thank you so much. I appreciate your coming on tonight. Thank you very much and next the new women in congress calling out their male co workers. We feel empowered to call it out and say, hey, that's not cool. Plus when it comes to goal is the president the commander in chief. I'm Biagio Messina, and I'm jokin seen. We are the producers behind the H HSEN television documentary series unmasking killer. Join us as we explore the identification capture and arrest of Joseph James, the Angelo the alleged Golden State killer in a special ten part podcast series unmasking killer, all new episodes premiering Tuesday. February twelfth subscribe today at apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. Tonight, a freshman congresswoman warning her male colleagues men need to know that you can't say that kind of thing congresswoman, Katie hill of California, one of several freshman saying they've had enough of what they say is rampant. Sexism on Capitol Hill. Sunlen Serfaty is out front. It's the stomach, and it has an impact new members of congress are pulling back the curtain on what many see as a pervasive culture of sexism on Capitol Hill. I guess I would say it's our cakes sexism you say hi to him. And they'll say, hey, beautiful, or, hey, Dr Lynn, and and that's just like every day that kind of thing happens, California Democrat, Katie hill revealing a conversation she had with a male member of congress about one minute speeches on the house floor. He joked to her that he can be Mr. five minute, man, or Mr. whatever minute man you want, and I'm like, ooh, he needs to know if we need to know that like you can't say that kind of thing. These freshmen women coming in with record breaking numbers on Capitol Hill say they are confronting what needs to be changed by calling out the old ways directly in the only way it can be broken down by seeing women as your peers and over and over and over again, and and having those kinds of areas, not accepted, Georgia Democrat Lucy. Macbeth facing comments from outside the capitol sexy. I attacks from this conservative radio show. You're there to not Lucy MC bath back to the headlines. Yeah. Go back to. Yeah. Go back to showing stuff in a needlepoint and things like that. That'd be great. I laughed. I thought this is just so archaic these kinds of sentiments about linen MacBeth hiring back and raising money off it online, it just feels the fire for me. And for all the numbers of women and grassroots organizers that are women that have been standing up, New York Democrat Alexandria, Cossio Cortez to has been no stranger to hitting back. When criticism of a work attire spread online like wildfire within our first few days on Capitol Hill. She was quick to label pitchers being taken over close and backside as misogyny just those little things kind of added up to a larger culture. But I do think that things are different now because because we feel empowered to call it out and say, hey, that's not cool. Huge part of that empowerment, they're very powerful. Full social media platforms that these women are weaponising as they call out bias, highlighting. A lot of the stuff that we've been dealing with that hasn't been okay. But we've just been told to grin and bear. And all of this comes in the wake of the metoo moment. The metoo wave that has hit Capitol Hill and over the course of the last year, of course, has led to members of congress resigning their positions over allegations of sexual misconduct and new laws on the book for both members and their staff as far as how they deal with sexual harassment legislation. Notably many people here saying that should go farther that does not go far enough. And of course, many members also bringing a personal touch many of them revealing their own stories Aaron of sexual harassment they faced in the past. All right Sunland. Thank you so much and next genie tees off on Trump and how he allegedly cheats, like a mafia accountant. Actually said that was the best golfer of all the rich people. The right sheets can take your sleep and your style to the next level with Boll and branch. The upgrade has never been more affordable. Every set is crafted from one hundred percents organic cotton. They get softer and softer over time. That's why they have thousands of five star reviews and even three US presidents have Boll and branch sheets. Try them for thirty nights. And if you don't love them, send them back for a full refund. Go to bollandbranch dot com today for fifty dollars off your first set of sheets, plus free shipping with promo code CNN to spelled B O L L, andbranch dot com. That's bollandbranch dot com, promo code CNN too. Trump's golf game. Here's genie. It's enough to make an avid golfer. Feel like he's landed in a sand trap trap. Just hearing the title commander in chief and the author giving all those interviews. He cheats, like mafia accounts three right to say. Donald Trump pizza Gulf is like saying Michael Phelps, swims. He cheated the highest level gold is like bicycle shorts. It reveals a lot about a guy bicycle shorts are one presidential revelation. We can live without this is really going to tee off the president over two hundred fifty pages accusing him of cheating at his beloved sport. Others like Samuel Jackson have said they've seen. President Trump cheat we clue Islam hit a ball hook a ball into a late. But somehow his county found it just took off running. I got Trump. But this is a whole book filled with examples. He actually did cheat guy. Your would you know, he kicks the ball out of the rough so many times the caddy's call him Palay. That's soccer great. But forget the president's feet. These hands said a golf ball two hundred and eighty five yards look at these actually said that is the best golfer of all the rich people. I know how to win I've one these people will tell you have I won many club championships eighteen championships by his own count. And like you liar. Because you told me how you did it when I played with you author. Rick Reilly, demolishes Trump's two point eight handicap, the lower the better. But experts say he's probably nine online president was compared to goldfinger hitting the ball into the rough then having odd jaw dropping new ball down his pants for better positioning. That's his origin ball. I'm on calmer. I'm standing on seven solution was to cantor cheat. Cheating at golf doesn't rise to the level of accusations about Russia. But at tees up this tweet there was no collusion with my caddie. Jeannie, Moos C N N, New York. And thank you for joining us. Don't forget you can watch out front anytime anywhere. You just have to go to CNN go AC three. Sixty with Anderson starts right after this.

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