21 Burst results for "John Woo"
"john woo" Discussed on Horror Lasagna
"He tunes out paid. He's not immune to pain. You know what I mean? And he's real danger for where when he takes a oh well, I really like that aspect of in this era of incredible special effects with Star Wars and dune and everything else that there's still magic to be found in a tough guy that has grit and agility and he's a good shot and that he's going to fight. I'm sure they go unbelievable once in a while. But then it's just kind of that John woo laughter of yeah. His gun have run out of bullets by now. You know what I mean? And they'll even show things like maybe that's been one of the things that they've heard is a criticism, so they'll show, every time that they kill a guy, they grab his gun and use that and the net runs out of bolts because you don't know how many it had or it's one of those guns it's tuned to your fingerprints so they track shooting. It doesn't work. They really have like danger instead of, it's just being, yeah, he picks up a gun sweeps the room all as well. No, when he's in like a tight fight, he's really, especially against a good fighter. He's getting knocked around just like yeah, I don't know. There's adrenaline aspects to it that still capture me, having seen all of them for 60 years. So James Bond is so unique in the world. Because it was books, you know, this guy was a spy in the war and he wrote books and they became popular. And the books are action packed, but not as much as the movies I would argue. Because I've read them, I've got them. I've got the faucet collection. And I remember that was one of the first series that, like, I graduated from Tom swift and Doc savage and talked a little bit. James Bond were one of the first series. While I was really, I'm going like, if my mom and dad knew what was in here, they would not be comfortable with like ten, 12 year old country reading this. There's real torture in here. There's like two sex scenes. You know what I mean? They were never explicit like other series became. But it was definitely they were adults. They had adult themes to them, you know, but also the adult themes of you have honor. You know what I mean? You have to be proud and country. In a sense of the britishness of it. He's the tough guy. He's a man. You know, there's no question, you know, that he could be a cowboy in other stories..
"john woo" Discussed on Fever Dreams
"For the first time in twenty years. We're out of afghanistan and there are already the rumblings from the far right of wanting to jump right back in. What is trump saying about the end of the occupation while is not just. Trump is not just the far-right but again a recurring theme on this podcast. Is that what you would think could be extreme or a little bit extreme. The more and more we talk about the more and more. It's just mainstream conservative movement and republican party position. Now i want to issue all the usual caveats and this applies every time we talk about. What's going on in afghanistan the quote unquote war has been ended by president joe biden but he is explicitly said and has exercise the right to do so at least a couple of times in recent days. Joe biden has gone out. There and repeatedly said explicitly signaled that i joe biden and future presence of the united states reserve the right to attack and bombard and drone strike afghanistan. Basically whatever the hell. I feel like it whenever i want to or claim it's in america's national security interests. So it's funny to me when we talk about this pull out this withdrawal and the war ending where i mean. I don't see how you could say. With any objective metric that the us involvement and war in afghanistan has truly come to an end if the leader of the free world continues to reserve the right to attack in bomb whenever he damn well pleases. That's right any on her way out. We effectively bombed a family of ten under the guise of attack isis. So that sort is kind of still dangling there yes vedran strike you're talking about is just one. Data point of many many many data points over the years about how so much of the cost has been off shored onto in terms of of afghanistan. The afghan people afghan civilians and completely off of the united states. And we're the human cost of the war has completely off shored onto the afghan people afghans billions and to a point where the american media zooming public does not have to worry about it all that much much to their shame
"john woo" Discussed on They Called This a Movie
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The Fast & The February
"Hello and welcome to a. Lights camera upkeep the podcast filmmaking pop culture and the fast and furious welcome to our very special episode fast and the february where we're going to kick our ask the past february because we have to make that distinction I'm so bad for always referring to this whole series as fast and furious but it's the fastened they'll furious until the fourth one fourth. But i think the whole franchise is fast and furious because i feel like the fourth one was like when they tried a rebrand themselves as a franchise. You could so not to jump the gun too much on our reviewing of the first film which we both watched. I watched it today. This is fresh. They didn't know they were building franchise off this ad also knowing what i know about what comes later in the series they didn't know what franchise they were building off this. Yes permit is universal's largest and highest grossing franchise which is funny. 'cause like they keep trying to make other choices stick and they keep failing. It's like no this. Is your franchise live with it. And they're like we want something else. No you get the fast and furious and that's it. It's like that kid that we're fedora to school one day and then when he takes the fidora off comes in a scarf. Everyone's like you are not scarf. Kid you are fidora kid or tom for the rest of your life and you're gonna deal with that now labeled yourself so yes this is as you were saying in the beginning of a five month long project five months. We can't do all the films in that time that that's true but we are doing. What about hubs in shaw. It's a spinoff spin on this. Actually think we talked about. It's been awful lot but unrelated. Yes we are starting with the fast in the february the into due to march too fast which got march two furious. That's that's correct that we named these. We didn't india original movies where we're very confused. We're going by what we think. Sounds good but i will save the the second title. The second movie is phenomenal like that was marketing genius. It's also the only of the films that i've seen before we start this you. You've seen the second one that's interesting yeah. People told me that. Because i saw the second one. I was kind of really ruining my expectations for the series. But no i think. I was telling them exactly where they needed to be Then we have the fast and furious april drift where we will evaluate the third movie. Where they they really changed the naming like the you know that there was a group of people in a room that were like. How do we get three into this. Had we get the fast and furious but with three and they couldn't they couldn't figure it out. I bet you there was one where like one of the letters was switched with a three and they were like this will work and then for some reason. Someone is like tokyo drift. That is what we will go with and then we will finish off the watching movies with fast in may which is the worst idol of both of the movies and of our regards. Because they like. What do we do for the fourth movie. They're like okay. Do we stick with the whole colon structure and they were like now. Let's go back with reboot. And here's the thing. I know that they've gone through. Several directors throughout like their eras like. There's the rob cohen era or different people need. But i don't think that was like a reboot. 'cause that feels like a reboot like they're like okay. Now we're gonna be going with. The new director would go back to fast and furious. But now i. I'm going to imagine that it's more like the mission impossible series. Where there's never a reboot but you get drastically. Different directors like mission. Impossible to is a john. Woo film through and through and it does not fit with the rest And then in june which is the twentieth anniversary of the first fast and furious. We'll be doing a tropical cream of fast and furious. We're gonna evaluate all movies. We're gonna talk about them evaluate their tropes that they do. Boil down our thoughts in than really determine whether in the future there will be more willing to strap myself down for the final films just just for the tropical before that month. Watch all of the rest. Watch watch all of the rest yeah. Yeah we'll see. We'll see that that could be one of the discussions. We up watching all eight. I did not or maybe we both fall in love. Maybe by the time we're done watching the fourth movie we are. What is the term profess furious fan. I i thought that. I think it's the family. But that's taken is probably like i don't know two thousand kids were born in eighties.
"john woo" Discussed on Daily Tech News Show
"Wu's team tested thirty-five chargers and found eighteen of them were indeed vulnerable John Woo contacted all affected vendors, however, eighteen of thirty, four fast charging chips analyzed couldn't be flashed with new firmware. Yeah, this is this is only for messing with people. Could turn into a vulnerability that that gets data somehow I suppose, but for the moment it's just a way to break phones Amanda Suppose. There might be some spy tactic where you want to stop someone from from contacting someone so you hack charged to melt their phone or something. But but there are also people who like to cause grief and that's. You know probably were. This would would come about TRICIA. Do you think this is something you're worried about? I'm not personally worried about it, but I totally see like if we're going to put the tin foil hat on for just a second I can totally see a major corporation sending people out to try to exploited all the chargers of a competitor, so they can be like us. The note seven all over again to bed. Your phone stink at Arthur awesome, but it was really like the secret conspiracy. Just hack all of their charters. Some corporate espionage that makes total sense. What else would it be used for? Besides just trying to be a jerk and the fact that that this like or like injuring someone legitimately injuring. Yeah because it could cause a fire so you could you know? You might plan to cause a fire, and maybe burn down somebody's house with us, and there's a bad stuff you could do. I was not too worried about it when it said it could only. have access to the charter that that's easier to keep control. Other people leave bags out and stuff so normal rules apply there, but when I when they said it could be. Done through a militias, APP on your smartphone Then it became something that I. Think more people have to guard against again. Best practices a don't download things on your phone from sources. You're not absolutely sure of apply just like any other kind of malware I don't think you would see people doing this too often. and. Hopefully the folks who make these chargers will mitigate them, but it is disconcerting that some of the chips can't even be patched. So, if you have a fast charger, you might want to look up that vendor list and maybe replace your charger. End Update firmware, church, or in some cases as well. After. Seemingly endless parade of small announcements, we haven't been covering all of them because they were just coming out every day one plus finally made the official announcement of the Noord phone..
"john woo" Discussed on Daily Tech News Show
"Wu's team tested thirty-five chargers and found eighteen of them were indeed vulnerable. John Woo contacted all affected vendors. However, eighteen of thirty four fast-charging chips analyzed couldn't be flashed with new firmware. Yeah, this is this is only for messing with people. Could turn into a vulnerability that gets data somehow I suppose, but for the moment it's just a way to break phones. Amanda Suppose. There might be some spy tactic where you want to stop someone from from contacting someone so you hack charged to melt their phone or something. But but there are also people who like to cause grief and that's. You know probably were. This would would come about Tricia, D. Do you think this is something you're worried about? I'm not personally worried about it, but I totally see like. If we're going to put the tin foil hat on for just a second, I can totally see a major corporation sending people out to try to exploited all the chargers of a competitor, so they can be like us. The note seven all over again to bed. Your phone stink at Arthur awesome, but it was really like the secret conspiracy. Just hack all of their charters. Some corporate espionage that makes total sense. What else would it be used for? Besides just trying to be a jerk and the fact that that this like or like injuring someone legitimately injuring? Yeah because it could cause a fire so you could you know? You might plan to cause a fire, and maybe burn down somebody's house with us, and there's a bad stuff you could do. I was not too worried about it when it said it could only. have access to the charter that that's easier to keep control. Other people leave bags out and stuff so normal rules apply there, but when I when they said it could be. Done through a militias. smartphone then it became something that I think more people have to guard against again. Best practices a don't download things on your phone from sources. You're not absolutely sure of apply just like any other kind of Malware I. Don't think you would see people doing this too often. And hopefully the folks who make these chargers will mitigate them, but it is disconcerting that some of the chips can't even be patched. So, if you have a fast charger, you might want to look up that vendor list and maybe replace your charger. And Update firmware church, or in some cases as well. After seemingly endless parade of small announcements, we haven't been covering all of them. Because they were just coming out every day one plus finally made the official announcement of the Noord phone..
BadPower Vulnerability In Fast Chargers Might Make Phones Halt And Catch Fire
"Right. Let's talk a little bit more about that. Multi phone thing I would keep talking about. All right, let's security researchers at ten cents Genre lab publish published a vulnerability in the firmware for fast charges that could lead to melting components or fires or other damage, fast chargers detect how much voltage device can handle and deliver the maximum safe amount bad power as they call the exploit tricks. The firmware into delivering more volts than is safe, an attacker would need. Need physical access to the charger for a few seconds or infect a smartphone or laptop, then infects the Charger Sean Wu's team tested thirty-five chargers and found eighteen of them were indeed vulnerable John Woo. contacted all affected vendors, however, eighteen of thirty, four fast charging chips analyzed couldn't be flashed with new firmware. Yeah, this is this is only for messing with people. Could turn into a vulnerability that that gets data somehow I suppose, but for the moment it's just a way to break phones Amanda Suppose, there might be some spy tactic where you want to stop someone from from contacting someone so you hack charged to melt their phone or something. But but there are also people who like to cause grief and that's. You know probably were this would would come about Tricia D. do you think this is something you're worried about? I'm not personally worried about it, but I totally see like. If we're going to put the tin foil hat on for just a second, I can totally see a major corporation sending people out to try to exploited all the chargers of a competitor, so they can be like us. The note seven all over again to bed. Your phone stink at Arthur awesome, but it was really like the secret conspiracy. Just hack all of their charters. Some cut corporate espionage. That makes total sense. What else would it be used for besides just trying to be a jerk, and the fact that that this like or like injuring someone legitimately injuring? Yeah, because it could cause a fire so you could you know? You might plan to cause a fire and maybe burn down somebody's house with us and there's a bad stuff you could do. I was not too worried about it when it said it could only. have access to the charter that that's easier to keep control. Other people leave bags out and stuff so normal rules apply there, but when I when they said it could be. Done through a militias. Phone Then it became something that I think more people have to guard against again. Best practices a don't download things on your phone from sources. You're not absolutely sure of apply just like any other kind of Malware I. Don't think you would see people doing this too often. And hopefully the folks who make these chargers will mitigate them, but it is disconcerting that some of the chips can't even be patched. So, if you have a fast charger, you might want to look up that vendor list and maybe replace your charger. And Update firmware church, or in some cases as well.
"john woo" Discussed on MyTalk 107.1
"Downstairs experience her face. She was like, that's painful. She's being honest about it. Yeah, Rice. I mean, Okay, So, uh uh, Tandy, Newton. Pandey handy. Such a huge bronze gal. She did a big interview with Vulture OK magazine and, Oh, my word. Is she given us? Ah lot of great stories in just this magazine in a really, and she's in West world That's still on TV right now. Yes. So people in our Yes, I feel like the first time I saw her in a movie. I mean, she's been acting so brash forever. I think her first movie, she was 16. Oh, and she's 47 he play like Thomas Jefferson's Mistress ever sin in Paris? Yes. I remember that period piece and she just She was in. That's what I like. And I was like, While this was just she's so beautiful anyway, so she is talking about some of her experiences. With stereotyping in Hollywood and like who was difficult to work with, and let's just veer off on who was difficult to work with story. Let's Let's go right for that when I pick that one for $200 In this vulture interviewed Thandi Tandy also let it be known that she's got a little black book. Would she tease will be published on my deathbed. Oh, and She is, You know, she's been through the wringer come out the other side of Hollywood with extreme You know, just a classic British, You know, she doesn't forget. Always British. Yeah, so, but nothing could Ah, she endured could prepare for her. Experience of starring opposite Tom Cruise. Here's a mission impossible to that came out in 2000. That's right. And I guess the reason why she got the movie. Mission Impossible to is that she had co starred in a really kind of a cute movie flirting When the cold Kidman one, I feel like it was a girl's school kind of a romcom hand. Or girls trip or something, but so anyway, that they then it led to Nicole getting her this role years later in mission Impossible, too, because she was married to Tom Cruise at the time and And ah What dandy he shared with vultures, she said, is that she said, I remember the beginning of the night scene. This slight red mark on end of Tom's nose. And by the end of the night, and could you not? This is how his metabolism is so fierce. He had a big white head. Where that red dot was, it would take anyone else. 48 hours to manifest, is it I start growing and it was like those it was me. It just kept getting bigger and that is a statistical. Okay. It's got eyes. It's you've got 1/3 eye, and she said Part of the reason Tom was so wound up was because he was trained super hard to be a nice person hears what she says. I mean, I love the shade of that. I guess he was trying to super hard and But working with them is a reason why she declined. Take burden. Any subsequent mission? Impossible movies and they're working on number seven now, okay? So scared of time. He was a very dominant individual. He try super hard to be a nice person. I mean, I love I love that. That's what everyone always says times so great. He showed me the role, but she puts it out there. Try super heard, she said. But the pressure he takes in a lot and I had. I think he has a sense that only he can do everything as best it can be done right. Then. She said. There was one time we're doing this night scene. There were all these extras Pirate technics, you name it. It was a scene with him and me on the balcony. I don't think it was very well written. I got angry with him. Then we got frustrated with each other, and we're looking out over Spain. It wasn't going well. John Woo. Director. Bless him. He wasn't there. He's downstairs, looking at everything on a monitor. And John and made a decision at the beginning of the movie, unbeknownst to me, that he didn't speak English. The director, Oh, for crying out O, which I think was very helpful to him, but it was extremely unhelpful to the rest of us, so they have a director who's speaking a different language. And directing them in a movie actor people who speak English interest. God, I love that. She's not speaking your language. You just go, she said. So the scene was happening in. Tom was not happy with what I was doing because I had the bully Pius lines and he got so frustrated. He was let me here. Let's just do it. I'll be you and you be me. So we filmed the entire scene with him. Be me babying him. Unhand him! Play me It was the most unhelpful. I can't think of anything else. Less revealing just pushed me further into a place of insecurity was a real shame and bless him, and I really do mean bless him because he was just trying to stamp Okay. So again, let's go back to the shape party, baby because Tom is super Hey, work super hard, and he thinks he can do everything better himself, including playing my role has His co Co actor. Yeah, he could play a woman. He could play me and himself. Why didn't he just both lines? I love it that he was so frustrated. He just said I'll play you and you play and I'll do you better because I'm Tom Chorus, right? And then the arrogance and then Ah, Then she went on to say, Well, you know, he was very generous and open about sharing Scientology Kel stuff. Isn't that lovely? Imagine he'd be open about that, and vultures like well like and she said he gave gifts and like what she said, like a book with the greatest hits of Scientology a bit like a Bible kind of thing. I was curious because I was like, Wow. It's going to track people how powerful high profile people There's got to be some glue that sticks this bleep together, right?.
"john woo" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK
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"john woo" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK
"Boulevard offramp the ramp there shut down until four o'clock if you're traveling over the Sierra be aware that the Donner summit rest area is shut down and till Wednesday because of the snow and in rock in the feeling shut down east eighty between sixty five and Rocklin Westerling closures from C. R. college to Rockland road all should open by five I'm John woo news ninety three point one KFBK partly cloudy overnight with areas of frost low thirty five to thirty nine partly sunny Monday high fifty three to fifty seven patchy clouds Monday night low thirty one to thirty five rather cloudy Tuesday hi fifty two to fifty six I thank you weather meteorologist car erexin news nine three point one K. F. B. K. folks when it comes to buying or refinancing your home the absolute most important thing you could do is work with someone that you trust someone that you trust to do the right thing for you not for them Tom Sullivan here I've been working with so your view financial for six years and they're honest they know mortgage financing backward and forward don't be fooled by their teaser rates of some companies out there see our view they will match any program offered by the big call centers but provide you with personal professional expertise and veterans you can purchase with zero down payment one hundred percent financing literally zero out of pocket no call center just reliable trustworthy advice from an experienced local expert call see your view financial today nine one six nine eight nine sixty to twenty two or start the process in seconds at Sierra view financial dot com as a real estate broker license numbers are one two seven five four four nine and a left over two eight zero four zero four equal housing lender it seems like every other week we see a new story related to firearms safety and responsible gun ownership is something that is so very important Christine even down to hear from my friends Brandon and Jesse of the brand new plaster.
Dark web child porn bust leads to 338 arrests worldwide
"South Korean national and hundreds of others have been charged worldwide in the take down the largest dark that child **** website ever John woo son twenty three years old indicted by federal grand jury for an operation of a sexual exploitation market online and while many of those that are going down with him are from overseas everywhere from Saudi Arabia to Ireland it is shocking how many are from the U. S. residents of Florida Maryland New York Texas Utah among many others show that child **** is thriving globally and is rampant
Is Huawei's Worst Google Nightmare Coming True?
"Love these tech stories where it seems to be almost like a soap opera or reality show so well. Let's go back to the reality show of alway the P thirty and P thirty phones that they released recently and the ongoing trade a dispute that forced google to sever their relationships with Wa wa Wa way was stuck in a certain watercraft without a certain implement because what good is an android phone that has no access to the Google play store glee services only Jammie. I think Jami doesn't have Google play services and that one is the only one that's but anyway but there's a reason why you don't see a lot of phones on on the subway yeah you don't see any of the US exactly okay so that the trade ban came into effect in May and the EP thirty in the P thirty pro where the first way phones to be released after that ban and we're all prepared to feel real sorry for Weiwei until Oh gee. There's there's this Chinese APP called L. Z. Play that Gosh almost immediately after the release of these two phones that allows the installation of official official Google apps including the all important Google playstore like wow. I don't know who created this miraculous. L Z play APP but they must have some mad add skill as those of us who were cognizant in the late eighties to early nineties might have put it well more power to you. How wonderful well? Well okay. There's there's an update on that security researcher. John Woo wrote a medium boasts about his investigation into the APP because as a security expert it occurred to him that Gosh these are kind of like important low level APPS. I wonder how they met this APP minister work. He himself wrote the T. L. Semi Colon are are on this. I'm quoting him here the current widespread method to install google services on newly released while devices relies on undocumented Weiwei specific acidic. MD M. A. P. is although this quote back door. Unquote requires user interaction to be enabled the installer APP which is signed with a special certificate from Wa Wa is granted privileges nowhere to be found on standard android systems so what this cuts down to is that why phones have special android permissions that include the ability to install super super level system level APPS two of those permissions missions that they've created are completely and totally undocumented anywhere which is definitely on the superlatives side of sketchy sketchy so demonstrating that if you want to get things done one of the most wonderful ways to do it is to simply create a medium post was to how many of our stories over the past couple years that were really really important interesting started with so and so wrote a medium post with their experiences and or investigations so the follow up was pretty quick well first of all whatever website that was hosting the L Z play APP was taken offline alway revoked the certificates that allow it to work to sort of cover tracks but I guess it didn't appease anybody because if you're not familiar with safety fifty nine this is Google's own tool and own process that will certify that a phone that runs android is safe and secure and hasn't been tampered with meaning that you can trust trust to run APPS on it and know that they're probably they're excuse me according to safety net at the test it has nothing weird about it that might result in like your credit card information being stolen or the hardens a secure area of the hardware being accessed by something that's not secure and well you know now how the Pe- thirty and the P thirty pro are now fail the safety net test so Google's tool no longer will certify to apps that run on the phone with this is a trustworthy APP with the immediate fallout that Google pay no longer works and any other APP that asks asks the Android android system. Hey has this phone. Can you tell me that this phone has not been tampered with and can trust it with this thing that I'm telling the user should be really really secure now. ANDROID android itself will say no. You really shouldn't do you. Should you should trust a hamburger that you found on the sidewalk on package more than you should trust this this phone right now share assessment I do. I do have to know so last night are all about android we had Michelle Rahman from exceed developers on and they had written about this back door and it's actually like quite it's quite involved to try and get it down. Ah installed on a walkway device but it's just like an interesting. I don't know to me it. Just it like you said earlier. It feels like it's just political theater at this point that and it's also it's also just indicative the time where we are living in this very league binary operating system mobile operating system world where you just have either ore and I can understand and why people would be freaking out over way not having access to the Google play store and Google apps but it just this doesn't feel like the way to do it folks you know and the thing is those alway phones have that back door right because there's those phones are sold in markets where Google is is company Non Gratis. I'm thinking Russia and China and Russia has its own like APP store sort of situation I think it's yen decks and China has its own and so I think that's why they were able to kind of make this happen but the way it all sounds is so sketchy and shady and I and I actually feel I mean you never should feel completely bad for like a giant corporation because again they'll oh yeah they don't corporations are not people people. All people are but we know the Supreme Court sometimes but I also kind of feel bad because this narrative has been in the press since Twani any way before twenty twelve when there was that actual security issue found with wall way not smartphones. I think it was like wow way. Conferencing devices were like a part of this and so it's it's kind of a thing and it just it yeah it just kind China it sucks or Wa but also don't don't use a backdoor to install things 'cause that's super unsafe no matter how badly when it use a phone in a certain country Oh my God just just don't do that. That's that's why side loading one of the things that I most appreciate about android the fact that you can go deep into settings and flip a switch to side low dance from that aren't necessarily that aren't signed by the Google play store because I feel as though if you've spent either two hundred dollars or twelve hundred dollars on the phone you own the phone and you can do whatever you want with it. Yeah however that's Oh that is just like that's like hanging out a welcome mat for every bad thing that can happen as a result of open owning phone but if you're going to be that if you're going to be that bold shall we say absolutely it is it does we should say it does look as though this was th there's nothing super suspicious about this Weiwei's intentions while this is something that wow a deaf back back door that while away from evidence clearly put in themselves to facilitate the installation of Google services however it does appear as though that was their sole intent content with us that it wasn't a back door that could then be exploited by other governments or whatever not that it couldn't be but that was it and it is still kind of one of the reasons why why we became so open to scrutiny and speculation is that we don't know for sure who owns it and it's supposedly owned by this one person however who owns the majority of the stock however once you start going one or two layers deep deep you see get to the point where okay we don't know who owns while way so a given yeah so I do. I do think that the trade wars that are going on are not good at all. I don't think that they're rationally founded. I do believe that industrial espionage is a real a threat. I also believe that if a government owned telecommunications hardware company wanted to take advantage of the fact that the world was basing a five there five did you network on hardware built by a company based in their country that they would coerce or ask the this company say Yeah we want you you just put this little component inside all of your five G. Hardware and it looks like a resistor but it's not a resistor that is definitely something to be. What for? I don't believe that the the the machinations that are pursuing this trade war are towards the our wealth out or designed to do the effect is best for people at just goes to show. We're plugging you know the podcast to we were talking about this on macrey yesterday. That's just so much uncertainty about the future than there are a lot of companies apple included Google included that they're part of their solution to a lot of these problems. Does let's wait to see if there's a new president next year because Republican or Democratic everything could change and a lot of horrific problems looms for tech businesses could go away if there is a different president in that
"john woo" Discussed on Show Me the Meaning!
"Cared in his life. So just wanted to with on that. Okay. They'll be. Kiss. Thank you damn American tragedy. That's what I'm talking about. You know, it's funny that someone had said last time that like what's great about vampires because I think nNcholas cage in the commentary said, you know, I like to keep movies up to interpretation. And I think that that's I love that too. But it doesn't always work. You know, what I think the my pick for worst movie ever made the movie Southland tales, and certainly that. It's that's up for interpretation, but you have to make the audience want to think about it. And I think Heidi's interpretation which I hadn't even thought of which on a literal level makes a whole lot of sense. And I really like it is just a reflection of how I think this movie is just so damn interesting. So fucking rewarding. The more times you watch it because it's hilarious. It's thoughtful on a level, and it's fucking hilarious. I I like it, you know, 'cause it is very big you ass-, whether he was a vampire or not, right. And it's on purpose, obviously. But I like sometimes I don't like that. Sometimes I'm like, I wonder if it if fucking answer. But but, but when it really does work when it really at the end of the day doesn't matter. You know, I it does matter. But either way it's funny either way it works if he was a vampire, then that's whole story in your head. If you if he wasn't a vampire, then you get that movie and read, and it's still great movie sound effect gets plugged in. All right. I got one more. I would also say another a movie that doesn't work in terms of being open for interpretation or just to and bigamous knowing the cages knowing have you guys seen this. I don't think the movies and big use at all you've seen that I've seen recently. Okay. Well, it's unambiguous. But at the same time has a million questions at the end. What happened at the end of that movie? All right. Well, that's different from podcast. All right. This next one comes from. I think Ethan, let's go, even hey, there wife crack is eastern from Pennsylvania doing what you guys want that in the context of the episode, you know, between choosing between the binary choices and not really being able to abstain from the choice, and that kind of application to our consumer society of, you know, choosing between two cereals and not really having an option to obtain from that other than just not having cereal. Yeah. Let me know we guessing every rally Austin? Yeah. So it was really interesting. I actually watched this again with a friend just the other night, and which was totally different experience than the first two times. I had played slash watched. It the one of the things that I picked up on my first couple of Ewing's. But that really struck me with the last one is the bit where you have an option to choose how you wanna reveal yourself to him either as the. Symbol or as net flicks. And if you choose net flicks, there's like this explanation. That's trying to communicate with him one of the things that it says is it's like TV but online, and I almost feel like there's a criticism. And I think we briefly touched on this. I don't know I talked about this with multiple people in different locations. I remember what I said, where's forgive me? But it's almost like it's Charlie brokers making a criticism about net flicks. As a platform in the way that we're TV used to kind of give you something. But now, the choices yours, it's all about you. It's you you, and we already live in this sort of narcissistic personalized society where you can create a an ice non-fat sugar free. No foam, blah, blah, blah. I mean, you wouldn't have ice foam. But whatever, you know, what I mean like this construction where everything is so personalized so much about what you want to do to create your own personalized commodity make you feel like you have control. But really you don't have control because the options are still given to you. And so it's this insidious way of sort of like programming us to kind of make us. Force ourselves to choose from within this array of options by giving the illusion of rejoice. And I think that's something. That's so interesting, and I feel like even Netflix platform is being criticized by this film, or by this game film as well. Because net flicks itself is part of that same sort of systemic tendency. Are you sure you didn't get that point from a from an Email or because we got an Email from Alexander who says essentially that I've said because I did like I did an episode like a bonus episode on at dawn, and then on my other movie podcast. We also did bender snatch. And I said it in one of them as well because that's one of the things that I was thinking about. So Alexander says the days of simply browsing through blockbuster and picking out what to watch on a whim are over the movies and shows on Netflix on your homepage or displayed according to according to a highly specific algorithm. Designed to point you toward what Netflix wants you to watch thus only giving you the illusion of choice. Netflix even came under criticism for allegedly using a viewers race to determine what movie poster. Display seemingly goes going as far as to misrepresent to movie as more prominently featuring featuring black actors than it actually did. So by making Netflix legitimate, part of Bander snatch Brooker seems to be subtly pointing out that if our allusion of free will is present even with a net flicks. Then this allusion must permeate through the rest of our lives as well. What do you guys think is this a valid reading or my being to meta? Well, first off I'll exander you don't get to meta on this. So. In an economics public choice theory and social choice theory are two schools of thought that have dominated kind of neoclassical or marginal lists interpretations of economics of the past hundred years. Let's say, but it got really really really popular in. Let's say the eighties where people would run these focus groups and focus groups would then sort of be the litmus test that would allow marketers to help governments and other corporations with their advertising or with the way that they would present a Bill or a policy to the public through the media. And so basically, I think what this person is talking about is basically public choice on fucking steroids were now algorithms are very precise. But also so fast. And so ubiquitous with being able to utilize the tools of big data or data vacation because everything is data information that it's kind of like this rather than asking me how I in respond to the color of new Cheetos bag or something. Like that it's sort of just extracting immediately. So it's basically that kind of focus group logic. But ramped up to eleven and technology at scale, especially online technology allows for that whole like optimization of the of the exploitation of your mind, you can you can do that at such a large scale and so quickly. And so precisely that it on some fronts. It becomes like, you know, it becomes optimistic and kind of nice, and you can, you know, make sure you have the best converting website for your, you know, your your mom's website that sells whatever cups or whatever. It's awesome. But down the line. Yeah. Just gets to hyper this, hyper optimize place. Yeah. If you guys like thinking about this. I really recommend. There's a great youtuber brain craft Vanessa hill. She has a six part documentary called attention wars. That's based probably the best thing on YouTube. The economy win economic circles. So yeah, I would throw blanket on this whole concept and just say that you know, like, I don't feel like I haven't illusion of choice whenever I'm on Netflix. Because you all you make the the first choice that you make when you're on Netflix. All right. I'm picking stuff. That's on. Netflix already. You know? So who? Yeah. Who cares? Bird boxes. Eight example of this. Like when when the right thing is all I mean does. No, no. I'm just saying I think first of all I look there's a Netflix is making content so already there you're kinda selecting I want Netflix content NBC's content ever. So I'm not I'm not criticizing. But I think like the reading that that this this this guy, whoever alexan- Alexander's, and and and Austin are kind of pointing to interesting bird boxes. Interesting case study, they got forty two or forty six million people to watch it because they could. So they say right, which I think they'd be in some heat if that wasn't accurate, but who knows right? But anyway, able to like take over every homepage takeover every log in and take over billboards the own and they're just trying to see like what are power to control choice. If we wanna use it at any moment, if we use every and that's look everyone has that kind of reach including Amazon that homepage is super valuable real estate or Google's homepage. But like if they want to. Use that Ken they control the choice of what you watch and its promotion. I'm not saying that it's like full manipulations. But it's an it's interesting to see that. Hey, they could get convinced Forty-six million people or forty two million people to watch a movie that most say sucks, you know. So we'll right. But it you say, it sucks a lot of people like that movie. You know, I haven't met. Okay. But, but basically, yeah, if you're saying that they're that they're taking every their scientifically finding out every the the few elements that will they can all put into a box and make you know, this mazing product to me that's on us. If we all, you know, forty two million people are are you say manipulated? I would just say, you know, they. Everyone likes. They made Coca Cola. They manipulated to watch to watch click out of curiosity. I mean it same YouTube. I mean, you don't do you like the product or not. But but I mean. Correct me if I'm wrong Austin. But you're taking that you know, that this kind of hyper amount of choices were they're using algorithms to figure out what the masses likes, and then making those those products is kind of a bad thing. And I would say that it's just a machine baby, you know, same world the mode exa- exist in the same world that really awesome, independent shit is getting made to you know. So we can have at all. That's that's that's. Human beings are making their own choices not being manipulated. Square saying these words choosing. Exactly like what the simulation would want you to say. Compromised. Ryan. Yeah. I was actually going to bring in one more Email about walkabout. But I feel like we're already to heat it. Ticket back to the lower level. All right. So I think we're gonna go ahead and wrap it up so wrap it up what the last two remaining movies are for nNcholas cage month is in the hand of our patrons. So patrons leave. That Lieutenant to what? I would do a while would like to see Leaving Las Vegas again affected me. Maybe they're unique way arresting. It's great don't get me wrong. But attestations fun moonstruck would be cool on their Peggy sue got married. Not not. It's it should be on the list. Right. Knowing honest, honestly, would be really fun to think that would be fun. Yeah. I would be totally down. If that was on religion to Mandy, you can really you can watch the movie, but you can really podcast on Mandy Nichols. Rock on the list. I vote for write ins on matchstick men, please. But I regret not remembering that one. Anyway, so work, we find you guys on the internet. Ryan, I have a my own website or my own page. Hold Ryan shorts released videos there every week. Made one today called harmonizing with myself. It's me and three versions of myself. All singing together checked on N Ryan's game show. Ryan's game. Gameshow Ryan shorts are are frigging. Awesome. You're awesome. Jacob Weiss, crack crack. You can find me on Twitter at Austin underscore Hayden. Do a philosophy podcast called at dawn. And after short haggis, my other movie podcast that do with director friend of mine from London will inland, and I guess I should say he's kind of multi cultural, but it's called I dig this movie. So you can check that shit out. And the first film that we covered the years point motherfucking break.
"john woo" Discussed on Show Me the Meaning!
"Fuck. And his whole thing with getting the flight attendant to suck his tongue. Yeah. I mean, apparently that's the thing because Gina Gershon mentions that later too. So right. He does regularly. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Have we all gone around and set our favorite, Nick cage movies? I mean is that been well? The end or the end of the month the end of the month. I mean, maybe I mean, I'll go ahead and spoilt my mind right now is yeah. One of them. I jump up, but mine vampire's kiss. I mean, one that movie really is very special to me. I feel like this last podcast if I got five people to watch vampires because I we all Bill. Olive done something great. That's like my brother with his vegan food companies want the whole world vegan. You went to the whole world vampire's kiss kiss to have a reawakening it'll happen. What about you Ryan looking at us filmography right now because this is certainly up there. I haven't seen. I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you that my top see sin, so many good movies. My my top three. I believe rank adaptation against something like adaptations this. You just do top three are adaptation wild at heart and face off. Forget that you were big wild at heart lover, I love them movie. Yeah. To see it again. Just forgot I was like manny's up there. I love it. But that's and I actually I gotta pay. Gotta put bad Lieutenant protocol on their Hank. You. I mean, just made Alec watch it, and he did not like it and Jacob doesn't like an like what the fuck is wrong. All right. Real quick. I just wanna say to some face off. Can we say to kind of correct old famous idiom before you judge a man walk mile in his face. That. But having said that I don't feel like either. Well, no, we already covered that never mind. You're right. All right into the mail bag. Let's start out with some voice mails. Ryan. What do you got for? Oh before you do that wanna remind you. If you guys wanna leave us, any comments ideas jokes analyses, whatever you want to one three five three four eight zero. So or or what to or what what's the low one elf gut o seven? It's all someone else said elf hunt. It is also elbow. Sounds like which I like why I mean else have guts and else can elf gut elf has a gut. I dunno if every elf has a hut. That's true. But I it's like Pizza Hut L hut. I feel like elves living in a hut makes more sense than elf gut. So it's two one elf gut owed seven. Yeah. Well, working on that. But whatever leave us voicemails or you can send us an Email at movies, at wise, crack dot c that's moving fresh Ryan someone named Tony. Let's your Tony Tony from California here. I'm calling you think without key podcast. I was struck by. None of you could remember your first impression movie, I thinking about this year out or profound impact on me. Were larger than lectures, people. I knew people everyone even is the follow the jumble. First time through and the dream sequences gimmicky. There was so much truth to movie that I had to come back for more. And when you do come back the thing that really gets on your skin. If underlying message of perspective, we see one character after another with widely different values thrown against each other. And the result is absurdity. Nobody has some right perspective. Nobody has the answers. And the Jews philosophy starts like a lot of sense. In a way to emphasize to do is a lot like a reset on on all the hangups NT by other people parents purest cultural ears, the the movie makes an assertion. That's all noise. Nothing was nothing more than like your Fenian. It's a narrator sums it up the end condition as a comedic cycle. So we might as well just chill the front countenance the ride. I think that the people don't get the big Laskey might be sends even their own beliefs that they can't see them for. They are beliefs. What do you think? Amen. Man. This guy needs more noise channel. Got a nice voice. Very well said. Yeah, I feel like my spirit movies for twenty nineteen or the big lebowski Philomina for similar reasons. For basically what he said, we're seeing is wonderful. I haven't seen in a long time. Remember, what what like the cathartic hardware, basically? She says like, you know. Yeah. You might be right. But I don't wanna live my life angry. So fuck you. Fuck it. Oh, yeah. Just like, whatever. Exactly. Let's go bowling. Yeah. So fuck it. Let's go right. Yeah. So anyway. Yeah. That was a great Email, totally agree and everything he said voice voice mail. You're right. All right. What do we got next? I think we got one awesome. Joe anything that that I concur? All right. Kawhi bring it KAI is calling for the show podcast in reference to Vander snatch. I know you're sick of hearing about it really superstar. But I wanted to wrestling something in relation to the episode for the kiss when a caller said that. It was similar to ROY in a way. And it just made me think about the idea that if we do live in simulation. The question of who is simulating everyone immediately jumped into my mind, I don't know if there's really a weight to that in relation to invent matching controlling Stephan. But it doesn't answer if he's in relation who's controlling Colin who controls dad, and his mom, and even if we are avatars of greater players why they would choose to simulate everyone, and who gets to the MTC's and who gets to be the characters is just something. I couldn't get out of my mind after he said, I've been sitting here where been thinking about it for a couple of hours now, I just wanted to let you know, if you guys anything say about all right how go sorry to ruin your weekend. I know that you've got an exam. I know you believe we're living in a simulations. What do you say about that? Yeah. I mean, I I too had a moment. I thought about it for several hours when they go my God, you know, like, I mean, I don't have anything other say than just strap in and enjoy this simulation. Man. Luckily, the only thing I can say, luckily, we don't like, you know, like God out we don't glitch out if you don't glitch out what goes back nigger. Somebody trying to move my hand resisting it, very good technology. That's what I'm saying. At least in our simulation. It's better technology. Yeah. Right. We're in a version that was from the eighties, man. You've never desired coke. And then afterwards you've been like, well, why do I wanna coke right now? And you realize that it was just like some hot person on the hottest, dude. Hamas blackouts, you know. In the matrix glitches. This is from Heidi. Let's see hit it Heidi. I just wanna disappear a take on them. I'll tell you. To try to keep a choice. So my take is that Peter was actually bitten by that and babies which could explain a lot of them. So I think his medical symptoms combined with his psychology to the Belga elaborate fantasy that was basically, a reflection of desires and fears. So I think he Adrian Hissar like many other ways that you talked about also see a tragic moment, and that if you did have rabies or even if he was just having a psychotic break, he was quite sick and needed medical treatment. But no one was around to help him because he basically had shut out or abuse. Anyone who might have cared
"john woo" Discussed on Show Me the Meaning!
"Smile. I would love to think. So we love to think there's some nNcholas. Yeah. Yeah. The the whole thing with the slow motion. I guess I can I can see how that's a distinction. But I. It's like violence. The reason why there were so many violent movies back. Then I mean, they're still I still contend that. There still are today. But that's because the only thing violence, let's movies travel. Well. Is so common now game of thrones Sparta kiss fuck. Even like, the TV show Fargo. It's everywhere before it was like a thing that was in a small pocket of cinema. Right. You had you'd certain directors or certain filmmakers that were known mean. Sam Peckinpah is the one that I think of that like really was maybe like one of the early guys that really got shit for the radical violence that he displayed in his westerns. Right. And then obviously tarintino became the poster child for exaggerated violence. But now, it is ubiquitous it's. Actually, it's really interesting that you brought Sam Peckinpah because I think he's the perfect counter guy to John. Woo. Like like from the earlier generation like they're they both have very very cinematic cinematics shot violent acts in their films and they're in slow motion. You know, it's literally the same thing. So I think it's just the fact that he composes his his violence to to be extra crazy that it just comes off like all right? He's really into this. You can feel it for me the difference between Peckinpah and woo. Is that Peckinpah? I used the word earlier belletti. There is a dance. There's an or there's a stray Shen to it that Peckinpah doesn't have Peckham pas more of like naked brute the brutality violence. So when he does a slow motion or when he crashed zoom, it's much more visceral. Whereas I felt like for me actually was it was distilled a little bit because of the stylistic nature of the explosions in the fireworks. And clearly when. The airplane is crashing into that hangar. Their fireworks going off. That's not really what it looks like when a big fucking vehicle crashes into a door. So for me, it was much more spectacular in the literal sense like a spectacle than other forms of. I actually didn't think the violence for me. Maybe it's because I'm just a fucking to desensitize Falker now. But it wasn't that kind of like horrific in this film. I wouldn't hold horrific. It was more. Just like you're saying operatic. I also think that anger to it flipping around in the air. It was like, wow, that's huge action sequences in but violent another element that Lin's to that. I think is the score. You know, it's this heavy like fedral like authorize or if that makes it feel like intense. You know, was it. Was it man to man, see which they did the speed soundtrack it sounded like that kind of intense? I don't know base actually choirs. It was good great stuff. So more to Austin's point. So in an interview John said speaking about his slow motion gunfight sequences, he says in those sequences I was very influenced by musicals like singing in the rain in west side, story dancers, like Fred Astaire and John Kelly. They have a rhythm of life, and I shoot action scenes just as if they were dance sequences one hundred percent like for me. And I know that I'm probably just being fucking white boy trying to synthesize any Asian person. But I was thinking of like Jackie Chan rumble in the Bronx. And how it's kind of like, you know, this this sort of Buster Keaton stereo choreographed sort of thing for me. That's what I was thinking of when I watched this. Whereas when I think of tarintino type or even a pen Peckinpah type, I don't think of them in terms of trying to to create choreography as much even though I. I think turn Tinos like car seen in is it death proof for the other one where. Yeah, I like that is kind of you know, extremely stylistic. But nevertheless, it doesn't quite have that like that that that that ballot. Like the choreography of this huge cast coming together in weaving. These different dance moves together. Whereas you do get the and I wonder if it's an in like a characteristic of Asian cinema verses maybe a more American or European cinema. Well, the thing about Joan woo is that he is kind of like the big Chinese anomaly in that yet he made a big splash in Chinese cinema. But that was because he was more influenced by western directors than he was Chinese directors. So he cites people like Scorsese and Penn Jean Pierre. Melville Bergman Berta Lucci. And of course, Kerr Asala now, that's an eastern director. But when he made his first films for Golden Harvest, which is the com- Chinese production company that made all those initial really popular movies eighties. He researched Jean Pierre Melville's, less samurai and clues arts the wages of fear, which I found to be pretty interesting, and it's funny how in his career now, you know, he had his time in Hollywood. And then he went back to China. Now, he's like really national icon, and he's makes movies that are like, you know, lionize Chinese myths and stuff like that. It's kind of cool. You see I'm not as familiar with his earlier, Hong Kong cinema. It makes me want. You got to watch it. Yeah. Have you not seen hardboiled? I know I have seen a couple of them just, you know, unlike onto younger with buddies, but I don't even remember what they were just member. Like, I had friends that were big Sinophile when I was younger, and we're watching them, and I don't remember what they were. But but yeah, Austin if you watch earlier stuff, I feel like you'll you'll you'll totally see like, oh this all comes into play face off. Like the styles. The exact same kind of. Yeah. You know, you really translates. It makes off make more sense. If you see the early ones. They're certain films that you can watch an vacuum. You know, like if you sit down and watch the spectacular. Now, you don't need to know about James puzzle, filmography and stuff like that. You can kind of joy that movie, right? I know popped into my head. But like you can just watch that film as a one off. Whereas like you can with face off. You can just watch it. But I feel like you learn so much more so much richer, if you have a little bit of knowledge of the backstory, and I actually I felt that when I was watching it I felt because I've seen broken arrow. And so I've seen and I've seen wind talkers. But I've never seen that I can consciously remember at least that I can recall any of his Hong Kong films. So it makes me feel like it would really flesh out a lot of those gaps in my in my appreciation of this film. Had I been able to contextualize it better. In broken arrow, also has done Travolta. All right. So, but it's kind of not that good hasn't good effects in it. But Jared correct me if I'm wrong, John. Woo. Not speak that much English. Like like one of those records that has to have a translator. Which to me is always just blows my mind. How you could do that. I think he's he's from the mainland. And I think during the time when he grew up they weren't teaching a lot of English. I don't know knows out there. Let us know in the chat. And yeah. But but yeah. Because just such rose at the same time. Yeah. Like every little performance would manner. If you got the intonations around stuff in in terms of being an international director language. I would I would actually love on this podcast if we did like some Hong Kong movies. I mean, you look fat and like the early eighties doing a better nineteen Eighty-four. He did a better tomorrow. Which is to me. It was weird seeing nNcholas cage with two or Nate guns and a flowing trenchcoat. Because I was that whole asks that it was developed in Hong Kong it's weird seeing. A white guy with that because you know, John woo handed up all throughout the eighties. And then one car y made it like a art house as static in the nineties with like fallen angels and stuff. And so then now to see Nick cage doing it. I was like, okay. This is a little bit awkward, but hey. We'll see Nikkei's do pretty much anything and the matrix trenchcoat man, the trenchcoat. But that was like they do the cyberpunk version. This was like the same thing which kind of made it a gun that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because we don't really have gangsters like that. You know, the triads are much more believable. Or maybe that's only because I know nothing about China. You know, maybe I just willing to believe that Chinese gangsters are more like that. And are gangsters are not. Anyway, guys, you have anything else. You wanna talk about for we go into the mail bag. Now, I don't have didn't have much. I didn't come into this into this podcast with much to say except for love it. And it's been interesting. I think you showed me some meaning with John. Woo. That's I mean, I guess if we're if Nick cage month, where do we think this film stacks up in his philosophy? Is that a middle of the road? Or is it a towards the upper tier? I mean that those first twenty minutes, I think are pretty important for establishing the character. And I think he did a great job. I mean, we talk about his nihilism and stuff, and I love his lines like, well, you better pull the trigger because I don't give fuck.
"john woo" Discussed on Show Me the Meaning!
"Well, he's also manipulating the FBI. He's killing people there. And he's taking advantage of the of the role. We don't really see him. I mean, I guess he does take advantage of the role. But I guess putting longer that Troy is trying to harm a large population of people, which is usually the case in like terrorist. I counter terrorists right scenario. But now he's changing his strategy. Because now we realizes that. He's got the inside beat. And so he arranges for his brother to kinda get all of these these like good food in whatever else. He's like nice material comforts rather than being in that maximum security prison, and he's going to like for me. It was a lot more of the unsaid. Like, I just assumed once Cass. Mr. has Sean Archer's face. He's able to go in in that you can kind of see he's kinda like, okay, I'm in here now, and I'm going to start doing stuff that is totally for my benefit. And I mean, maybe he doesn't really just wanna see the world burn. But maybe he's just down to make a shit load of money and have power and he realizes that. Now, he's got quote, unquote, state power that he's able to use those resources and do that he's the lazy joker and able to put the swat like when he's playing Sean casters playing Sean is able to put like the all these teams and all these police forces in at risk just for his own like at his own Williams. Now, he's got an army that he can just kind of put put out in their old. They'll the massacred he's got he's got the. Yeah. I I guess I'm saying that even if the terrorists gets he infiltrates the FBI as all these resources to him as a screenwriter, you'd probably say, okay, now, we up the stakes even more. And now he's gonna blow up the whole planet that that's usually where the quote face off leads. But instead, you know, that Mexican standoff is basically just like a standoff between a bunch of mothers, and and like girlfriends, and and dudes like it's much more family oriented, which I found to be interesting family film, literally is a family film. It's a it's a town terrorism movie mostly about family. Yeah. I love that. John real do we ever see why he's a terrorist though? Like is it for like how come he has such bad as penthouse? So clearly, there's some sort of monetary incentive. No, there was that weird thing when Sean was in jail, and he said something about like man fuck about that eleven million dollars. Right. What was that about? You know, we're talking about the brothers saying, I think for building they built the bomb, and there was a deal to get paid ten million dollars to build it or engineer it or to install it. They're in cahoots with someone else. There's there's a money arrangement involved. And now that it's been diffused. And that we're in jail. We're not going to get paid for whatever. Yeah. I think that's what it was. So there are there is a sense in which there's a pyramid of power. And that he's not quite at the top. Right. That somehow somewhere globally in this non-specified terrorists. He's a freelance terrorist. You're saying there's someone who's the boss? Yeah. He's a contractor. His contract. A government contract. Yeah. And so somebody's footing the Bill in. So that was my thing. Like, no one except for the joker. Look like, very rare other other characters right? It's very rare that you find an enemy that just simply wants to watch the world burn. Usually. It's the wanna do it for money. They wanna do it for power. They wanna do it for the kingdom or they wanna do it for their people or something, right? There's always some sort of motivation. They don't really explain it much. But I kinda just assumed it was like money and power and chicks and sex and stuff like that because of his lifestyle being quite lavish. Yeah. Well, it's also important mentioned that he does care about his brother as I say, that's part. That's where you really see the heart of castor. Right. His brother dies. He's devastated. I think I think he does kinda criers teary-eyed. It doesn't cross ties shoe, which is like a really sweet thing. He fed him his pill every day, the vivax or whatever it was called. You know, when I was doing research on this movie. I it was so funny reading these old articles about how John woo was this controversial filmmaker and how this movie was heavily criticised for glorifying violence and that homes like this often targets such criticism. I find this funny because it feels like this is kinda no longer in issue like peeling fuck people may react strongly to gore these days, but in terms of action violence, it seems like people are just like all right? Well, inasmuch as there are Hollywood movies. Now there has to be violence similar to this. This movie isn't even gory. There's maybe gunshots or something. I don't really see how this is any more violent than your average marvel movie and nobody is complaining about those being violent. We have become. Thailand, the just sprays of gunfire. People just, you know, lots of people get murdered in this movie. I'm in the slo MO really essentially the violence, and it's like this. That's true. It feels like the matrix fight scenes like the matrix seems from the flipping and during the machine action, but it's like that for close to an hour and a having the which skis were heavily influenced by John they loved John. I was saying to Jerry earlier today that that also the part where castor wakes up and he's like he has no face. He just he's like and then he's like staring into his reflection. Are you reflection in something that he think heath ledger got inspired for the joker through that performance? Because he's clapping joker. And then you just see like the smile.
"john woo" Discussed on Show Me the Meaning!
"Get seduced by Castres life. I mean, maybe this is not not the movie, you know, it's this is much more of a good versus evil movie. And they never really explored the shades of gray, which is fine history drugs with that guy. But he just he doesn't fit in. I think I thought someone spiked his drink. No, no, he he knew he was about to take drug. He's like the guy popped the pill in front of him. And he's oh, I didn't know I didn't know takes off or not. No, he thought he knew he was doing. I also address some grace Tim grayness, though, doesn't it? 'cause 'cause like when castor is Sean he kinda does some good stuff for the family who I'm glad you out that up. Yeah. You know? So there is kinda some like even this fucking global terrorist. Who's an asshole like he kinda helps the daughter, and he sort of rejoins helper out. He totally right. And he he totally kind of like some passion with the white even though I guess technically is that rape? Fuck that is that is some sort of weird sexual. I don't know what the FOX going on there. I'm confused now. But it's Vance seduction technique. Yes. Torture. I mean, he gets a lobster all of these candles. There is a story. You know, he gets the lobster. But isn't she like a vegetarian because later on he saying like rose now he tells a story like there was this one girl, and she was vegetarian. That's right. You lead only later find that out you say during the meal. No, she'd be like what the fuck is lobster for also shout out to the actor who plays Castro, Troy's, brother. I think he was good awesome. Niccolo Allesandro Nick nickel or something like that. Yeah. I say what happens of Joan Allen because we aren't Pleasantville that year ninety six or ninety seven injuries in the Bourne. She's one of the Bourne films. Yeah. I haven't seen in a long time. Yeah. So I did a little bit of research about this movie because I was like, you know, it's not the deepest movie in the world. We're supposed to show people damage. So anyway, I found this essay by gunning Robert Hanky called John. Woo cinema of hyper Caddick violence. So I'm going to be citing from him, and he brings up a good point about John Lewis films before this. And so he is calling while this is what he talks about. But I am dubbing. What he talks about the wind bromance? So in films like a better tomorrow and hardboiled these are John Lewis films in Hong Kong, there's kind of this masochistic bromance among equals, and there's like this nostalgia for this gone sense of honor, these are essentially like male melodramas. So it's oftentimes a cop and criminal. And regardless of the fact that they hate each other or that their diametric opposites, there's like this the sense of identification between the two of them. There's the sense of intimacy, and it's kind of like if you've ever seen heat, you know, that last part of heat where deniro and Pacino like holding hands because. They both go through the same pain. That's kind of what we see in all the cop versus gangster movies of John Lewis, Hong Kong cinema before this. It's interesting that in this movie that doesn't happen. The only thing that you could really say is that is into it between Troy and Archer is that they're both fathers. But I find it really interesting that the terrorists in this case caster is like just unilaterally evil, and the movie even frames the whole discussion as like a all time battle between good and evil with all that religious iconography. Or the fact that the Mexican standoff happens in church and stuff like that. So I found that to be pretty interesting. But you don't you don't think that maybe that they need each other though that there's some sort of like connective. Yeah, joker. Yeah. I mean, like the law wouldn't be the law without transgression of the law and vice versa. Transgression of the law wouldn't be transgression. If it didn't have a lot of transgress, right? So you've got this terror. I wouldn't really have an identity where he not kind of counter poised against the foil of Sean Archer and vice versa. Yeah. No. I think that there's definitely something to that. Actually wanna talk a little bit more about that. Because it does seem to suggest that Sean not only he's able to find some sort of Piff Unie and things that he has to change about his home life or just him as a man that he's only able to get by either being caster or by castor, changing something in his home. But I guess the the distinction. I'm trying to draw here is like when you have two people with their guns pointed each other's head, which is like the poster for a lot of John woo movies. In Hong Kong. It's usually like two guys who have the same struggle, and they're all just products of their environment. And just because of the the way that society is they've just been thrown into the situation where they have to fight and kill each other. But they still hold onto this common sense of honor. This one is way more like nihilistic popcorn movie version of his wall castor, Troy's which is interesting because he's Jacob appear deficit of evil. There's nothing there's no motivation. That's you can kind of reason. Money and women drugs. You know, good time. Yeah. A way though, that's interesting. So then he's like, pure instinct, and Travolta is like manicured I have to shot. And like like it's headed to law. I am holding this higher standard. And so it's almost like you get this this commentary on human nature versus society. Like, maybe maybe caster is what you are. When you don't have the law, and you need the law, but you can't have too much of the law because then you become a stiff and you forget about like how to connect with people at another level like his daughter and his wife and stuff like that. I mean, obviously, there's a connection going on because they have to inhabit each other's identities in their bodies and the development of what John was doing. In Hong Kong. I'm having a hard time. Putting it into words we seem to be southern they both experience like this emotional connection when they're exchanged. They start they understand each other better once they're exchange. So so you have castor in the home. He does eventually defend the daughter. He is a little more intimate. Like, he has some moments sensitivity, doesn't obviously obviously Sean already kind of he's pretty sensitive already. But then he's able to hang out with Gina Gershon. And have this emotional connection with these are friends you actually care about that, dude? Because before he was saying that, oh, I'm going to like put your kid in a foster home. You don't coop or destroy the end he realizes. Oh, no. Like, I'll think of you forever or you'll never have to have a problem. You think that when castor goes to the grave of the sun that he killed does? He actually I had a hard time telling does he actually feel a little bit of remorse. It was. It was not painted to make you feel that way. It didn't. It didn't seem like. He he seemed pretty cold. I mean, he was there for her. But it was clearly adjuster. It didn't seem like he was like it up. Yeah. They did say, I look it was an accident, man. He did say at one point he tells him he's like, hey, I was trying to kill you. Your kid was just an act. I had no I wasn't planning to. So there's a little bit of a glimpse of remorse. But then he does say like a hope you he does something like to really stab it. And like hope you enjoy that your kids gone or hope you're does he say something nasty to Sean? That's one that's one of the during an interrogation one of his like hoodlums or something says like how's your dead kid that one? That's that's what that's okay. That's what it is. What do you think? You think Ryan you think that does castor? Troy undergo any changes when he is, Sean. Yeah. I feel like always brother when his brother dies. I mean, you see a little bit of. But that's already it's always been there. I guess that warmth him. I think that you know, he's he's clearly like having fun with a being Sean Archer and the so to me, you know. He's helping the daughter out when he's helping I it's actually not like you're not supposed to say. Oh, wow. He's really giving a great advice. Like, it's it's it's like fucked up advice to to give a high school or a butterfly knife and say just dig it into the wound. So won't open, you know. But it's kind of your also, well, it is helping protect. How is that moment when he be? Yeah. It's awesome. You know? So I feel like he's just pure whatever's in front of him. You know, he's you know, he's gonna do what he wants to do. And. Yeah, I don't think that to me. I think the funeral scene as as the alternate like like middle finger to to the Troy's to Castro because he's like he's putting on the grief. But really, you know, he doesn't give a fuck about any consequences are collateral damage to his selfish acts, you know, I feel like at the end. And then at the very very end the alternate. Fuck you he's about to die. He literally says, hey, let's just kill each other. Fuck it, you know, he's that night Listrik when he when they when he shoots at the MIR like, and then and then he's like, well, I'm going to die. But just a fuck you over I'm gonna take a knife and fuck your face up. Yeah. You know, doesn't end up doing anything. Yeah. Just kind of like, you know, he's he's only doing it out of spite because he's a dick, you know, he I don't feel he he's the personification of evil. He doesn't. Yeah. To your role at all. We also got Margaret show in the movie to catch that. Yeah. She's great. She was good. I saw her name in the credits. I was like, whoa. I didn't even realize crazy. Who Thomas Jane is in it like fuck awesome. The whole police squads, really good. I believe them cross the great movie, you know, another thing I found interesting is that the stakes of the movie at least for the bulk of the movie are not some kind of existential threat because the bomb is diffused in the middle of the second act. I found that to be pretty interesting. What's more at stake seems to be his family life because it's like vaguely hinted at that castor is what is he he's going to use the counter-terrorism resources to put all his competitors out of business. But I don't feel like that's like a throwaway line toward it just become end of. But right before the showdown what we really care about is how he's affecting the family, and that and it's disappear revenge movie at that point at that point when he said, I got him to his wife earlier. This was that he was dead. He didn't realize he was Nkhoma. He's still alive and not only that he's also. So he diffused the bum. But now, he's a scapegoat. And he's at large, and it's now just a revenge movie. Now, I always want this. I want to see this guy done. Right. I mean, he just he ultimately he just wants to kill this guy. Or you're talking about Sean Sean wants to kill cast. Also, get his family back. I mean this. Of course, those are. Yes. Those are the stakes is that this. Well,
"john woo" Discussed on Show Me the Meaning!
"Show me and entering the promo code show me at checkout and now back to the show. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you to twilly. So this movie was pretty successful. This made this we made a hundred million dollars and six weeks in nineteen Ninety-six money in nineteen Ninety-six money. That's ninety seven this is Titanic seven money Tannock year. And it's got like a ninety two percent on rotten tomatoes, which means that. I mean, not that we should take that aggregated as being some sort of like absolute barometer for good films. But at least, you know, it got some critical of the people like, I it's funny because you know, you're talking about kind of being a little Hammy and cheesy all admit as a lover this movie. Yeah. Like compared to other things if is a little cheesy, but everyone likes it. And that's what is greater transcends. Its it wears its Hemi nece as a badge of honor. And put my critical mind on the hangar. It was like let me just enjoy. It. Let me why didn't I was like you were analyze doves baseball. What do they mean? You're saying to the John. Woo dubs. I think there's doves in mission impossible to all right? It means. It's a metaphor for how important the movie is. Yes, I couldn't help. But look at this into the context of Hong Kong cinema. And the thing you'll always hear from academics. So talk about Hong Kong cinemas that Hong Kong cinema's, always especially in the nineties when it was big when it was like, basically became a big thing. It's all about expressing anxiety about Hong Kong being taken over by China again in nineteen Ninety-seven like they're pretty much all Hong Kong movies are analyzed under in that frame. And this movie doesn't really deal with that. But there are still some pretty interesting things that we can talk about in a sex. But in a sec Freudian slip. First, let's talk about some of the very obvious things that are going on in this movie but worth bringing up anyway, let's talk about faces. So one of the interesting things that happens is that his daughter Jamie is constantly changing. The way that she looks and acts every week. So she says I'm supposed to be me not that you would have a clue about that. Anyway. And then later when caster as Sean says to her you haven't been the same since Michael died hiding behind other faces to avoid how you feel and then I guess I guess what we're supposed to take away from this is that. Ironically, only by putting on another face can Sean move past the death of his son as evidenced by him not needing the bullet wound scar anymore at the end. You know, he tells the plastic surgeon at the beginning that I'd like you to keep the scar there as a reminder of my dead, son. And I guess how I let it burn my life. And I am so torn up by the regret. And then at the end, he says, you know, what you can leave that off. And then he adopts the kid. And then there's that thing he does where he wipes his hand from the top of the face down. He does that before son is shot. He does it to his wife after he catches caster. I don't really have anything profound to say about this other than they knew the title of the movie, and they wanted to nail it home. I'm sorry. Jennifer and ask that tackles this thing a lot better and more. What's hey, that's good? Great movie. I'm not gonna talk shit about the even though even the Boston doesn't like this the mask. Colleges in the mask. That's all like we all wear masks. And it's Ben Stein. Yeah. Exactly. There's going on here to like an ancient Greece idea. I think it was process is the Greek word, which basically means mask, and it's what actors used to wear over their face. And it was this idea that there's something about the performance in being a new person. There's a lot of literature that engages with this idea of wearing a mask as as this thing that is like the signal identity marker of a person of a body, right? And if you could somehow live and another mask than that sort of disrupts who you are. And what you are. And that's why I thought the bit where they're like shooting into the mirror was for me that was kind of like the coolest part because I was like, oh, that's kind of fun. Yeah. Just beyond the fact that again next can stand also all over in this movie. But I just thought it was really kinda cool at a thematic and conceptual level as well. You know, I actually thought they were going to go a little bit deeper with it. There's a part in the jail when Sean as castor starts beating the shit out of that guy who starts tacking him because apparently hit slept with his wife and daughter sister, whatever and he starts I think losing himself a little bit like he's like, oh, I don't actually want become caster. But it never really developed beyond that moment. I really was hoping he would struggle more with. Oh my God. I'm actually becoming my worst enemy because I have his face on. But you know, he doesn't really get seduced by Gina Gershon. None of this. None of he's able to keep pretty well in control, you know, which I because it's it's more about the struggle between the, you know, him being a family man, having to put on this act of being a psychopath. You know, so. Yeah. One moment of pause in the jail, and he's just like he's like going for it. And he's like oh shit. But yet that could have been. Cool explosion. I can see that. Yeah. But just sort of just sort of stops. They're kind of like introduces at one time. And then he doesn't I mean, there are a lot of people dying. I mean, he is shooting down a lot of people. He's like mowing people down. He's at one positive swat guy. Go. Hey, billy. Or guy's name is. A but I never get
"john woo" Discussed on Show Me the Meaning!
"What everybody welcome to show me. The meaning wise cracks movie podcast. My name is Jared. Join here at the show me the meaning crew we got Ryan. Hey, film fans and Jacob. Hello. Hello and Austin yell his very special because we thought Ryan was going to be on the phone today. And then ten minutes for we recording. He just shows up at the door, so happy or so. And I feel like I haven't seen him for like what two months it's been a while happy new year happy new year. So man, you should do that more often on anytime anytime issues more federal holidays, you know, that I could do that work on that. So today, we'll come back to Nick cage month, everybody. This is the second installment of Nick cage today, we're covering face off the nineteen ninety seven movie directed by John. Woo. Can I just say I love how Nick cage month doesn't actually settle in an actual calendar month? But it straddles. Eccentric and doing its own thing. Right. Exactly. You know, we get metal. Anyway. So we have two more movies after this one for Nick cage month, and we decided that we're going to leave it to the patrons. So if you guys go to wisecracked plus dot com, you can join the patriot on and you can cast your vote as to what Nick cage movies you'd like to see in the running our app tation, raising Arizona. Late. I think angry Leaving Las Vegas. Knowing wild at heart ghostwriter, Conair, moonstruck and bad Lieutenant protocol New Orleans, that's long list. All we're going to get the top to the top two are going to be the next to that we cover. I will not be unhappy. No matter what what gets picked. That's what happens when you're covering Nick cage. But anyway, I seen a lot of them by the way, I had well I'll start with. I have not seen a lot of. They're all contest that matchstick men is not in there. What who? I forgot about that one. I didn't. Yeah. I mean, look he's been in like seventy five movies. So. Ghostwriter? Yeah. I have not seen that one. All right, anyway, let's talk about base off. Let's go for first impressions. What was it? Like the first time. You saw this movie? What was like revisiting it. Let's start with our guest that we have seen in two months Ryan. Well, the first time I saw this. I like had a just many teenage Ryan just movie orgasm. I couldn't believe what I was watching. That's exactly what I wanted to move feel like I've said that on a couple podcasts recently. But yeah, this is exactly what I want out of the movies just absurd high-concept situation beautifully done and rendered with awesome. John loose slow MO of tiger Phy with bat shit and Saint acting from Nick on Travolta, really everybody's hitting on all cylinders here. And yeah, this movie's amazing came to talk about it golf clap. Okay. Cool. What about you? Jacob. I don't remember the first time. I saw it. I remember loving it then and God I watch on the airplane this time what a fucking great movie couldn't hold myself back. I was on the texting I was like dude fuck, and John moves the man, this movie is awesome. The name is great. I love the double entendre with like obviously the face to face off. The fucking action is insane. It's so good. You don't get that anymore. John. Woo. Kept the mission impossible to I I love the the high-concept. It is. It's just perfect great movie. And then to be able to see these actors both kind of play charter was awesome. So you get like two performances out of each four performances. Oh, it's the best. I loved it. So yeah, it's like one of the best action movies ever nineties. It's awesome. Awesome. Austin? What about you? I'm gonna throw the wet blanket on this love for your mother. No. I mean, okay. There are a couple of good sequences the Mexican standoff at the end I like when they pointed guns at the at the mirrors, and it's like, oh, they're shooting the other, but they're really killing themselves. And there's some interesting stuff there. I thought that was a cool shot. And then some of the action sequences are just simply Baletic, especially when they go into casters like layer or his apartment building that was just a fucking crazy scene. Right. Other than that. It was so Hammy, and I get it. I get it. The it's the point you got to enjoy that level, but like vampires kiss for some reason I could deal with kind of happiness, but with this dude, it just didn't do it for me. I thought the storyline was ludicrous. I don't know like not every movie can be vampire's kiss. I know I know I know I know I should not get hung up on the science, but like come on science. It's part section more than human. Yeah. I mean, actually see I didn't the movie in nineteen Ninety-seven or anywhere near that. But it kind of I was like, wow, you know, people really optimistic about science mechanize base believe. Well, I don't know. Like, no. I definitely remember distinctly my dad and everyone talking with us movie and making fun of the concept, man. Like, this is insane. And ridiculous. It was ridiculous back then it's ridiculous now. But it doesn't matter like watching it. Everyone plays it pretty straight. You know, it's not played for laughs. Really love. Fifteen minutes into the future scientific stuff. I love that kind of stuff, you know, like, the the woods the magnetized boots and things like that. Like that prison. I was like, oh, that's kind of cool. It kind of just amps up the craziness of the prison system was like that's pretty fucking cool. But I don't know, man. It just didn't do it for me. I'm sorry. What is the security guard like Marge's husband from Fargo? Yeah. Totally is or her note. Oh note will the director of the FBI was Mr. Gunderson. Yeah. You do. I think the security guard is Marge's husband ones like to make you gotta have. Jere point though, Austin, I really love the kind of logical jumps in this movie. They don't really address it. But you are kind of like, you know, they would hopefully recognize these people wave. Just by a little corks in their body. There's no way the thing would be that perfect. Perfect. Your jaw. Fine. That makes it fun. I don't know for me. It's all about the moment in history that the way that people feel about technology, whether or not you would buy that or not because you know, you see all those machines the computers that all look very state of the art high tech for the time, and I don't know if it was depending on the level of exponential technological growth that movie came out in which was ninety seven once again, I saw this with the first time last night. So I was wondering in my head. I was like, oh, you know, what maybe like, you know, in the past two years. Computers had just exponentially gotten better to such a degree that people might actually believe that this might be a thing in a couple years. But you're probably right. It's probably ridiculous ridiculous. I would be ridiculous now. No matter what. Yeah. Of course. So what did you think of the movie, your here's my first? I will say I don't remember first of all I don't remember why we picked this. Do you think Ryan was face off? So. Cage monthly gotta do fuck invites like Nick cage is only doing the cage for the first twenty minutes, which yeah, I I'm glad you said that because that's another great thing about the form. And amazing acting. This movie is that as is nNcholas cage is playing a fucking sociopath. He only gets the opening credits sequence to really cement, you know, that part him Nick ages casra Troy being Cassar Troy, and then from then on it's John Travolta being Cassar Troy, yes, we have to play totally different. But that that opening sequence with the choirboy and him grabbing her ass. It's like, dude you. It's amazing. How the foundation for the face. You really are like, yeah. This guy's crazy. Yes. I'm and then there's this amazing commentary track than that cage talks about you know, whenever they feel that scene. I so that was the first seeing that they filmed, and then John Travolta was over there watching and he was like, wow. So that's the kind of acting. We're going to be doing because he had the base. Fuck I gotta do that. That's Nick cage is responsible for a lot of this movie's batch. Keep them stakes high. Energy. He put into that role. You had to have emulated, by Travolta, which would have been it would have been crazy. Both of them had to really observe Sealy. How you how are you with your wife, and how would you be in this situation? And man, I didn't know this was a body swap film and film ever better than eighteen again better than thirty thirty better than freaky Friday. Get out. What was the one? Yeah. I think so what was the one with Ryan Reynolds. And Jason Bateman Ryan rental the aces. Now, it's where they do the they do the freaky Friday thing. They do it with the two dudes and Ryan Reynolds. Not it came out. The double no, not the double. That was the Jesse Eisenberg. I know do the switch or something. I don't know. Anyway, the switch pretty impressive. I mean, it's not as good as this one minute not to no one meter another good movie. Oh shit. I haven't seen that one. Either point is this movie lot. I'm a, you know, it's weird because I love love John. Woo. And I'm more familiar with his movies in Hong Kong than I were in his ones in America. And the first thing that caught me was the fact that nNcholas cage in that first scene when he gets out of his car, and like his trenchcoat is billowing in the wind, and he's got those two ornate guns. I mean, he's basically Chaldean fat from from a better tomorrow. And I thought that was really interesting, and that's kind of the lens through which I ultimately analyze this movie. And what we'll talk about is kind of how this movie is an interesting departure from John Woo's, Hong Kong, movies and even the first two movies. He made in America because before this there was broken arrow of failure. And what was the other one? Payback. But that was later. I don't know. Was it not giving talkers was that? Oh, yeah. He did win talker. Anyway, I really liked this movie. I like, I love all John. Woo action movies. It was cool to see a version of the killer and hardboiled and bullet in the head. Yeah. With two American actors to American actors that I like a lot. If you listen to this. You don't know John? Woo. Those were the movies should go. Check out. Bowled ahead the killer hard-boiled and a better tomorrow a better tomorrow sequels, which I haven't seen all of them. And they're not as good as the first one and then mission impossible to it was awesome. But that's America. Yeah. And then the Redcliffe movies are pretty cool. Don't see the one that the one that's condensed into one movie. See the the foreign ones that are two to our movies. Anyway, let's go into a recap. So this terrorist castor. Troy shoots FBI officer, Sean Archer on a carousel accidentally killing his young son in the process six years later. Sean catches and puts Casteran a coma during his attempt to blow up L A. But his bomb is still out there. And his plan. Still in motion casters brother, also in custody will only speak to castor about the bomb. So Sean undergoes an experimental procedure to implant Castres face onto his with six days until the bomb explodes. Sean infiltrates the prison as castor and learns the bomb is at the L A convention center. Meanwhile, the real castor wakes up and makes the doctor put Shaun's face on his turning this into a veritable body. Swap film caster as Sean gets his brother out of jail and defuses the bomb to soak up the glory, he then has sex with John's wife and puts his plan into motion to cripple all other terrorist groups leaving his crew to be the only big dogs in town all the while, Sean as castor Rockaway jail. Shawna's caster escapes from jail teams up with Castres old crew where he learns the castor has a son that he has all but abandoned caster as Sean and the swat team start shooting up the place leading to a face off between pastor and Sean casters, brother dies and Castro. Sean kills the director of the FBI Shaw. On as castor convinces his wife who he really is. And at the directors funeral a five way Mexican standoff leads to an epic boat chase where Sean kills caster. And the F B I recognizes him as Sean again, the top surgical team in the country comes in and gives Sean his face back and the Archer family adopts, casters orphan child and of movie. 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"john woo" Discussed on Now Playing - The Movie Review Podcast
"Travolta, Nicolas Cage. Joan Allen, gene Iger Sean directed by John. Woo. This is the now plan goes to can eat a peach for hours Arnie and Stewart and the Jakup I love all our listeners. If I could I'd go up to each and every one of you and just cascade my fingers down like immedi flesh waterfall down your face affection. Yes. Seven thing. My dad never did that to me. And I'm glad John Travolta thing. Yeah. I don't feel weird about well. I would definitely run some meaty face fingers down Sean rates base because he is a backer on pod bean who last year gave us one of the media's reviews we've ever had to discuss Apocalypse Now. And then he's already pledged for a couple coming up in the future is wide. Shut this year's it's twenty of the university. He's been so generous patrons will get to hear that review this summer. But now we have duality of reviews from him this week face off, the nineteen ninety seven John. Woo action. Classic classic. Yes. And one I have never seen. I'm just gonna put it out there. John. Woo is a quote unquote, cool director, according to many film geeks throughout the nineteen ninety s I was a pariah for not signing on. To his stuff. I have never been big on John. Woo. I don't really know much of his work. It was hard to get his Hong Kong stuff in the early nineties when his name, I became a touchstone. Oh, have you seen the killer? Have you seen hardboiled I wanted to? But my blockbuster wouldn't carry that they had ninety copies of three minute a little lady. But I couldn't get the killer. And so when I finally did get to see it. I do remember feeling a little disappointed. It had been dubbed in English, which I always prefer to hear the original voice acting and it had been reedited. And so I thought well, maybe that wasn't why I didn't think it was so hot. And then we lose Hollywood film. Let's go back to mission impossible to. I mean, I don't think that hard target is even van Damme's best film, broken arrow. I mean, I think it's claim to fame is the line aided cool getting turned into the handle of the first film geek website. I don't think it was loved as an action film. Oh, that's where the name for eighty cool. Okay. From for me. Broken arrow is best known for its score which got picked up as a sample and used in all the screen movies. Yeah. And we covered mission impossible to worst of the franchise we covered paycheck. Arguably the worst Philip k dick movie, I think was reputation is actually faded. I don't know any film students now. But I guess is they aren't acolytes of John. Woo. The way that people I knew in the nineties worry in the nineties the guy had cred. And then he came to the US and ruined it. I do feel like that is his pariahs his US film. It's been a long time since I've seen the killer or hard boiled, but I have much affectionate feelings for those than paycheck original possible to I remember liking hard target quite a bit. As far as John Claude van Damme stuff goes I was not a real big van Damme fan, but my roommates in college were big into it. I ended up watching a lot of Vandamme stuff kickboxer and stuff hard tar. It was one of the better ones. I saw broken arrow in theaters. I mean, Christian Slater and Samantha Mathis together. Again after pump up the volume. How could I resist that onscreen chemistry and then face off opening weekend? Baby opening weekend, you could not keep me away. Because this was the period. I dare call it the apex of Nick cages Hollywood career Conair air the same year. Right. Nineteen ninety-seven. Yes. And he had just won the Oscar for Leaving Las Vegas the year before. Yeah. He wanted in ninety six for ninety five movie in ninety six when I became a convert the rock, I didn't see the rock in theaters..
"john woo" Discussed on Now Playing - The Movie Review Podcast
"I'd much prefer the come in both guns blazing matrix. But I may just becoming in saying I'd love to see a hitman movie. And this was the furthest thing. From it. But I'd rank these hitman and then hitman agent forty seven, but by a hair, I mean, they're pretty much equally bad to me. I I don't know that a movie like this deserves to have a good leap performance. It's not like I want someone I really respect as an actor to take this role. I mean, Paul Walker rest in peace. But I don't know that he was very good actor either. I don't think he would have blown us out of the water if he had been able to play this role that they got some nondescript guide to play clone. Fine. I mean, it's just not a movie franchise, that's begging me to return again. And again, so the fact that this is going to right now it's in development to being a TV series on Hulu seems like the perfect conception of how to take this video game episodic every episode. He goes somewhere else on a different mission to kill somebody else. And you can make what's interesting about it. The people he interacts with that seems much more appealing. Than the idea following agent forty-seven or agent ninety through future sequel right because after all it is a video game world. And it's trying to live in an action. Movie spy thriller universe without earning. Either of those things, but yeah, you're right TV might be the perfect place for this. Like, you said weekly missions with an overall overarching mission to figure out who he is essentially that he can find out at the end of season three fine. I'm not going to be chomping at the bit for something like that. But it feels more appropriate there. Yeah. TV's great. Because that means I don't have to watch it. I mean, we weren't outside the blast radius of sequel for this. I was very upset when I realized it came out in twenty fifteen and I'm like, I think we need two more years to be really sure they aren't gonna do agent. Forty seven part two. I felt like it was a little too close for comfort. And so yes, go to Hulu, stay out of theaters. Like, I said, it's a bad property to adapt. Because the whole point is. Is not you. It's a puzzle game where you need to go in and be inventive and use cunning and use your wits and be smart and kill somebody and get out and you do it again. And again, and again, that's fun. But I mean, I don't wanna see maze craze the movie either. And I like that game too. If anyone remembers maze craze. Well, maybe actual John movie will fix you up. We've mentioned the fact that it man was partially inspired by the films of John. Woo. That's what we're covering next week face off a donor request kind of in that they wanted to make John woo thing. And then the publisher said, no, go do this other thing. But yeah faceoff. It is a one off. We're doing at the request of a patron I'm excited. I mean, I saw in theatres did I like it find out? I don't admit. I liked it back. Then we'll I still like it is the question. The case for something you respond to a long time ago. I've never seen it. I've actually never watched the film even this recording. I have no idea what I'm going to think of it. But I'll let you know next week, isn't it today bue of Travolta's short hair to pay. What about Get Shorty though? I don't even know what he looks like in this film. He looks like Kate. I'm in. Never. And we will be getting back to video games. Eventually couple months. We'll be kicking up Pok Mon. So I don't know anything about that either. I mean, I didn't even know it was video game. I thought it was a card game. I was belligerent that we were not going to do those films because they were not video games. I well, I was wrong. And you guys will all suffer with the go through five Pika chew adventures leading up to a combo made inhale Pika chew and Ryan Reynolds detective Pika chew this summer. Can't wait does that mean I have to dust off my polka mongo app?.