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AP One Minute Headlines Mar 13 2019 09:00 (EDT)
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AP Headline News Mar 12 2019 16:00 (EDT)
"Join us. The shops asked offers or gel them twenty nine, gene. We're going back on all losers in DSP of wins in the freemen novices hurdle on day. One of the festival that's free bet refundable twenty or twenty pound in Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland shops, not your home the best value for Cheltenham festival twenty nineteen eighteen TS and CS apply. AP radio news. I'm Ed Donahue, the vote is in from the British parliament on Brexit. He is to the right to g to the nose to the left three hundred nineteen one of defeat for Prime Minister, Theresa may. I continue to believe that by far the best outcome is United Kingdom leaves the European Union an orderly fashion with a d. And the DA we've negotiated is the best and indeed the only deal of edible maze. Parliament will get to vote between a no deal Brexit and delaying departure from the European Union opposition leader, Jeremy Corbyn has another vote in mind. The prime minister's run down the clock on the caucus rain run out on her written is supposed to leave the European Union. At the end of the month. Stanford University says it has fired sailing coach John van damore. He's accused of taking part in a widespread bribery scheme to get rich kids into elite colleges to Hollywood stars, Felicity Huffman, and Laurie Laughlin are also facing charges Joseph bona blanquita is the FBI special agent in Boston some spent anywhere from two hundred thousand to six and a half million dollars for guaranteed admission. Their actions were without a doubt, insidious selfish and shameful Wake Forest university suspended its head volleyball coach the entire European Union grounded the Boeing jetliner involved in the airlines crash or bandit from their airspace. Other countries have done so as well the US and Canada have not Utah. Republican Senator Mitt Romney hopes there is a change in the US to do is just to ground these aircraft. So that the the airlines that have them would be able to adjust schedules on Capitol Hill. Robert lighthizer, the top US trade negotiator is suggesting the US and China are nearing an agreement that would end trade tensions between the two countries. He did not say when that could happen. This is AP radio news. New York and federal prosecutors are joining to get some one hundred thousand rape kits tested around the country Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus. Vance says his office has spent thirty eight million dollars processing rape evidence kits in jurisdictions around the country. I was convinced that investing this on a national basis would in fact end up solving New York as this New York sent money to test fifty five thousand rape kits. Justice department program is tested, forty five thousand more between them they have netted a thousand arrests and hundreds of convictions. New York cleared its own backlog years ago, but there are still an estimated one hundred fifty five thousand kits around the country in which evidence has been collected. But not tested, Warren Levinson, New York and appeals court is upholding in Ohio antiabortion law that blocks public money for Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood says the funding has helped provide tests for sexually transmitted diseases. Cancer screenings domestic violence education and efforts to reduce infant mortality. I'm ed. Donahue, AP radio news.
Operation Varsity Blues: The College Admissions Scandal
"Welcome to you. Can't make this up a companion podcast for netflix original true crime stories. I'm rebecca lavoix. Your host each episode. We take a close up look at a true crime narrative documentary or series and i talked to the people who made them diving deep into the back stories and getting answers to questions raised by what we just watched. This week's film is operation varsity blues. The college admissions scandal. I'm joined by john. Carman the film's editor writer and producer. And chris smith the film's director and producer a not listeners. This episode contains spoilers. Make sure to watch the entire film and then listen on. You've probably heard a lot about the twenty nineteen college admission scandal. But you haven't heard everything. Operation varsity blues goes beyond the celebrity driven headlines with real conversations from f. b. i. Wiretaps the film offers a rare glimpse of the man at the center of the scandal. Rick singer and the methods he used to help his wealthy clients cheat a system already designed to benefit the privileged. Only talking about one thing. And it's this story. An fbi investigation called operation varsity blues usc ucla and rick singer the mastermind behind the entire operation face. Hey rick this is a good sign. Yeah yeah it's good for rick. Ida question for you is kosher absolutely. I want you to walk me through the whole thing again and how it works. We helped the wealthiest families in the us get their kids into school. So i've done seven hundred sixty one. What i would call side doors front door means getting in on your own so i created this kind of side door because my family's guarantee john carman welcome to you can't make this up for having me now. The college admissions scandal story has everything it has celebrities. It has Rich people it has You know sort of busting of the american myth of being able to pull yourself up by your bootstraps. I'm curious which element of of those or something else. What attracted you to this story. Well this story kind of broke right. After we finished the fire festival documentary and that was very much. In the head. Space of scams and scandals american capitalism run amok and gifters. All that stuff and you know when this broke and we did some reading into it. I mean aside from it being like a thrilling crime story to seem to be kind of like emblematic of widespread systemic issue at the heart of higher education. So yeah it just seemed to be very rich and of course it wasn't until we fully dove deep into the court documents that we really understood how deep it really went. Did you know when you were starting to make this film that you're going to get these. Fbi tapes that you were going to be able to use. Recreate the exact dialogue of phone calls between rick singer and the parents will be clear. The tapes of never actually been released publicly but the transcripts were and that was it completely public access. Anyone internet account can just download them for free. That was basically. Fbi's initial affidavit. It wasn't until we saw the headlines. I was like oh. This is a very interesting. And then but then it wasn't until we actually read that. Initial two hundred page affidavit. That we realized how richard always yeah. I imagine you had lots of transcripts to look at. How did you decide which conversations to include in the film. Well i guess there was like two factors. One is just like oh this. This is a great way to learn about the case because again the singer was so brazen on some of these calls he would just lay everything out step by step in detail and a lot of ways that's more compelling and interesting to hear straight from him as opposed to just like a talking head interview so that was one factor and other factors played into. It was just looking for any kind of interesting tension or emotions. Something that was coming through on you know these were these were essentially business calls but you could tell that with certain parents. They were worried about what would happen if the public found out of their kid. Found out or you know summer maybe a little too cavalier about you know or or nonchalant about the whole thing so we were kind of looking for either moments that were very revealing as far as Just pure information of how this work but also things that perhaps have like know an additional emotional resonance in some way. I was really interested in in the choice of which parents you decided to. Put in the film bill mcglashan augustine. Who says winemaker. How did you choose which cases to look at because there are a lot and you didn't pick the famous people which i found very interesting mainly it was it was. This is an character in someway again. Like you know bill. Mcglashan seems to be kind of amused by this whole thing. You know and augusta seems very nervous that this thing is going to blow up in his face and others are terrified. I just wore people that In the transcripts like their personality or their feelings on this whole thing seemed to come through whereas a lot of others including like some of the more famous people which we did we did not choose to cast as actors and the thing. They was a lot. A lot of these. Companies was very dry the straightforward. And you know yes no answers and we were looking for the ones where it seemed to go a step beyond that and and it seemed like there was some kind of tension or maybe a a strange joke here and there. There's a something that kind of elevates beyond just pure exposition so essential character in the film. Is john van damore. And that's a more complicated story because there are questions as to whether or not he really was involved in the taking of bribes in exchange for letting kids into stanford it seems. He seems pretty clear that he didn't he got the donations but he did not help the young woman in question get into school and simply pass the jack along was bosses and yet you know the connection that you can draw is there. Tell me what you think of john. And i'd love to hear why you decided to include historian the film so when the scandal first broke. I think just kind of assumed that it was simply rich and corrupt people that were taking part in singers scheme but i. We found john's situation to be really interesting. You know because adds complexity to that narrative and you know this was a guy who dedicated his life to stanford sailing and yet he was struggling to raise funds for his program and then along comes rick singer. Who's like this friendly guy with deep pockets and you know i kinda see him as this tragic figure that kind of ads. Just of moral ambiguity. Rick really was pushing hard to really take a look at the student. You know he was really interested in new that i really wanted to second system coach in struggling to to fundraise for that position and he said hey i would like through my foundation. I would like to donate one hundred and ten thousand dollars to the program. The that gets you through You know a year or two of funding opposition site you know. No strings attached. Let's continue our relationship and keep bringing people to you and have you take a look at a tastic. He did though. No students like actually were accepted because of something. John did because there was a quid pro quo between hammond singer of ongoing to bring you perspective candidates and you and you're going to consider them in return for donations to your program. And so that is that's a quid pro quo and as you know john's lawyer explains you know that that's all the government needs to prove that you have entered a conspiracy so it wasn't always as black and white as just like yes like you pay me off and i'll do whatever you want you know. The john situation was a lot more complicated than that. I'm wondering the pandemic has really changed. The landscape of going to college means and in my own house. It has degraded the brand name college. My son went to a brand name college as a freshman and moved home for the pandemic and was doing it remote for a while and was like this is dumb. It's too expensive to be doing it remote. So he transferred to a state school and is happier so we kind of get that. But also i think the pandemic is opening so many students and parents is right now. Is that something that you thought about when you were making this film during the pandemic yeah. It was definitely strange. Because the bulk of our interviews were conducted pre pandemic. So yeah it's the world is kind of shifted very quickly and it's too. I think it's too soon to know because who knows maybe things will be with vaccine being promised in may maybe things will just kind of go back to how they always word sooner than we think but i think that there has been the pandemic has certainly had effects on the sat like that. I believe that has been suspended for the time being because it's not safe to bring students into a testing center and also a lot of colleges announced that they're going test optional during their admissions process. So i think it's too early to really know. I think that what you said about you. Know your your own kid being happier at a state school. I think that kind of speaks to a some of our experts. Say in the film that you know. There's so many opportunities to get a good education outside of these elite schools. You can get a good education almost anywhere in the country. There's over three thousand schools stuff like that so i think pant pandemic or not. I hope the film can kind of just show that you don't have to buy into the hype of these schools. You know what i think about are the coaches or other college officials who said no and then he had to find somebody else and then that person new extensively that this could be going on if their school. You know what i mean. Do you ever think about the people who rejected the scam altogether. And the fact that they didn't come forward. Well i think in the case of john vander more. I think it shows that it wasn't. I don't think he just walked up and it was like. Hey i wanna do this illegal scheme. Would you like to join me. i think it was. It was kind of a slow and steady process. And you know we had you know whatever interviews was talking about how. He was very patient and took his time in a nurturer the process and i think that's how he got these people kind of comfortable he was. He was a charmer in that sense. So even if he got to that point with someone who decided not to go down that path with him i think they probably formed such a good relationship by that point that they probably thought. But that's a little odd as opposed to you know this is fully criminal. I just i nothing. That i found there was no transcript. I saw at least with the coach where he was like. We're going to do this crime at least before he a popular then. He started changing his language becoming much. More obvious to indict people but yeah. I don't think that's the way he operated. I don't think he i think was very subtle with the sort of Introducing the criminal element into these relationships. How many shoes are left to drop in this case because he's still operating with the fbi right right. Well there's still some Parents that have pleaded not guilty so until those cases are settled or finished know. And he's going to be believe believe they just they just kind of keep. They're to keep him out of prison so in case he needs to be called as a witness or something like that So yeah i mean as you can see at the end of the film. I mean that's those are just the people featured in our film there's other cases beyond that and you know the this. I think there are many shoes left to drop in this and this this could potentially could go on for years before singer is actually sentenced. What are you hoping people will take away from the film. they didn't come in with. What do you think is the biggest thing that they will learn. It's tough to pin it down to one thing because i think it's concerning the the film were i think we're touching on a lot of different issues. Not just in the education system but american society at large. And you know. I think we touch on wealth inequality in class and privilege all these things that it's just so complicated so it's ultimately what i hope is that the film's spark a conversation with people and we can kind of question why things are the way they are absolutely one of the final moments in the film includes you reaching out to stanford and their statement is that the university denies the athletic director new of rick or any improper gifts made their his foundation. They continue to deny that any amount of money can have an influence on admissions. What is your reaction to that statement. I can't speak for what things are like at stanford but you know several people who you know. I spoke to experts or just people that work in the college admissions industry. Tell me that if you make a large donation exponentially increases your kids. Chance of getting in that kind of thing is still going on to this day. According to the experts that i've spoken to that this scandal has not really changed that. I want to talk about the test taking to me. That is one of the most extraordinary parts of this scandal. It's one thing to write a check. It's another thing to have a person fill in answers on behalf of a student. What do you think of the test. Taking component of this scam. What i found to be most heartbreaking. Is that in a lot of these cases. These kids seem to have no idea what their parents had done. So they're just seeing these high scores. And the i mean that must have been such a an amazing feeling to think that you've got such a great score on those tasks this really hard test and then to find out later that it was all a lie. That's that's just. I think it's in some ways. It's the the most sad and simple of of the of the scheme like just that just must depend really awful. You know to to just to think that you've got this amazing scored a and you didn't singer. Has that quote where he's he's saying like oh she'll probably come out of the test and she'll be like dad. It was so hard you know. And it's just like. Oh my god like it's a so. It's it's really heartbreaking that you know that these kids were taking these tests and trying their best and they were robbed of knowing what the truth was until much later when the scandal erupted. Were you tempted. As i was to try taking the sat act after hearing that mark The guy who actually did that was either a genius or maybe just any adult can do well on a test design for an eleventh grader says in the film he says anyone any adult worth their salt in the test. Prep industry okay. Okay so i don't want. I hope i don't want to spread the idea that anyone can do a gray on those deaths. I mean like. I took them forever. Go i remember it being hard. You know but. I don't see that as like a fun afternoon of just taking. Sat prep questions. If you don't have to absolutely all right well. The film was operation varsity blues. John carman so much for talking to me about it. I really really enjoyed the film. My pleasure. I'm so glad you liked to now. Here's my interview with the film's director and producer. Chris smith chris. welcome to. you can't make this up blue now. I remember where i was when i heard about this story for the first time. I don't know if everybody feels that way about this story. But i remember being at work. I remember hearing the story breaking in the news and just thinking like rich people man. Is that what you first thought when you heard about the story. I mean it's hard. It's hard to remember. I think i was overseas when it happened so i don't think that i had like the reaction that everyone else had. Do you think it would have been such a big story. Had celebrities not been involved in the scam. Probably not yeah. I agree although it does sort of point to the american meth of bootstraps. If you just work hard enough you can go to whatever college you want. I mean that really is another compelling threat here right. I think that's probably the number one reason it resonated with people was just it really. I think people hold the institution of education as being somewhat sacred. And the idea that you know that somebody had figured out a way to gain that system. Was i think deeply upsetting to a lot of people absolutely as somebody with kids in college. It was deeply upsetting to me. I'll admit that now. This is a really interesting documentary because you are using real. Fbi transcripts and the reenactments have matthew modine in them Playing singer and it's really interesting. Talk about that decision to do reenactments with the transcripts and also to cast a known actor in that role for us in terms of looking at any project you look at. How can you tell the story in the best way possible. And i think in this case you know. We didn't have access to rick senior. We didn't have access to the parents yet. These transcripts existed. They allowed a window into that world that you know we wouldn't have otherwise and so it became a pretty obvious path in terms of trying to give an audience better understanding of what happened. Is it hard when a story is out there and everyone thinks they know everything about it to do something new with it. I'd love to hear that your answer to that and also to hear what you think is new like. What didn't i know before i watched this that. I know now that i have watched it. I think if anything on a story that's really well covered. It actually becomes an opportunity to try to tell a different side to the story. Because there's usually so much more than you read in the headlines. And i think also in in the world that we're in today a lot of people are only reading headlines so they think they know a store yet. There might be a lot more there than they had originally understood. So i think part of our job is to take something that might be actually quite complex and sort of distill it into a movie that could be consumed in a way that is easy to understand and follow. Was it intentional. That you didn't really focus much on the lori laughlin and felicity huffman stories. Because they had been out there so publicly. I mean you really introduced me to people. I hadn't heard of before the scandal. I think that again when you said people knew the story. I think people really knew the laurie and felicity side to the story in so for us the opportunity was to try to tell the other stories in and around what unfolded and so that was part of it and then the other part was just you know when we looked at what transcripts we had to work with and what phone calls were recorded you know there was a lot to work through but the ones that were the strongest had the most to offer ultimately weren't between laurie and infelicity. I wanna talk about john victim. Or he's the stanford sailing coach and his situation is really complicated. He got caught up in the scandal because he did receive donations but then he turned around and handed those donations over to stanford and i thought he was doing the due diligence of a coach there and he comes off really pathetically in the film yet. He was charged facing consequences. Talk about how you feel about his involvement in this and him as a character in your documentary. The one thing with them. John vander more. It felt like after meeting him and sort of hearing his story is he definitely felt like somebody that would not have gotten involved in some illicit activity if he had not been sort of coach prompted through his meeting of rick singer. So it was interesting to hear you know. I think he just wanted a simple life. You wanted to be a sailing coach. And all of a sudden he's put into a position where he's supposed to be fundraising which is not necessarily something that that he was maybe wasn't like fully in his skill set in terms of things that he was you know excelling at and so. I think somebody like rick could prey upon somebody in that situation. Because it's you know he's offering them a solution to something that they don't want to have to do in the first place One thing that stood out to me in the film thing that i hadn't heard about rick singer before is that he had previously auditioned for a reality show. My name is rik singer. My job is to life coach kids and families through the whole process of getting into college. We have families and champagne in miami and they send their plane to come pick me up. Come to the meeting for a couple of hours to three hours from me. Right back on the plane sent me to the next place i need to go. It's amazing what was up with that. What show was he undermining for. It was a show that never actually went to air but they were sort of like exploring the world of Independent educational consultants and Just in the mix of people that they were considering rick came in and they had taped him one of things. That's really interesting about how all this shook out was that rick singer ended up cooperating with the fbi. Usually these kinds of flips. Go from the bottom up. And it's curious to me. That rick singer himself ended up being a major witness for all these people kind of on the other side of the transaction. That i mean it's hard to know. One of the things in this story was just not having access to rig made it very difficult to understand. You know his thoughts and motivations throughout the whole process so You know. I think when faced with a situation like this i think a lot of people will look at their options and sort of make a decision and i think rick had proven himself to be very Recognized opportunities in his life and was able to capitalize on those whether it was from being a coach to sing the opportunity of creating the side door. I think in a similar fashion. I think somebody mentioned the movie that he seized on an opportunity to work with the feds. It was interesting to me because we know that these are the real conversations because of the wire taps that we heard some parents kind of pushing back on this Kind of casting doubt on whether or not this was legal whether they were gonna get caught and one of them even says at one point like i can't be in the headlines this story and i'm thinking like oh it's gonna be. Were you surprised that so many parents did it anyway. Even though they obviously seem smart enough to know that it wasn't an okay thing to be doing. I mean. I think every case was different know i think in looking at the conversations of people had it felt like every situation was unique. You had different. People worked with only in the capacity of adjusting test. Scores and other people actually worked with the side door which was getting people in through athletic. So i i don't think it was one size fits all and i think the motivations you've no idea what they would be what people were thinking was it that they wanted to make sure that it looked good that their kids got into a great school. Did they really You know want to give their kids the best opportunity that they could give them Were they you know seeing you know one of the reasons that we that we put the youtube clips in Of kids that were either applying. The school are going to that. Process was just that you could see the actual How that experience was affecting them and sort of. I think anyone seeing their kids going to that. That process would want to try to help. And so i think that was an effort to sort of to show another side to the story. What do you think about the commodification of of college. Is that something that you've thought about before you started making the story. I think it's something that's in the background that many people think about i think here we we talked to a lot of experts in the education space and journalists in one of the things that was a consistent theme was just that you know you can get a great education anywhere and You know if you're motivated in in that's what you're looking for and so you know we would hope that people take away from this and maybe to take some of that pressure off and realized that if it's really about getting an education that that's an opportunity you can have it a lot of schools. I think one of the things that is also highlighted in the movies. Just you know. I think for many. It's either bragging rights or or it's just looking at at at. The education system is a sort of a networking opportunity that by going to a more prestigious school that you're going to be mingling with the right. People that ultimately will be making decisions in the world and that in and of itself as an advantage in that something that's afforded to you know people that have have the means. Now i'm curious Aside from college being a commodity and that you can get a good education anywhere. is there something else. You're hoping that people will take away from this film after watching it. I think we've seen over the last couple of years and You know the people are sort of calling into question things that we've always Accepted as being just the way things are and and i think education is another thing that sort of is ripe for analysis in that way. And so you hope that you know that. This story ends up being another just small part of that greater dialogue. That's happening around the space of education. You know. I think it definitely calls into question. This idea of like you. Know is america america crecy and is it all based on you know if you work hard you know you will be rewarded. i think this is a very isolated case i think rick was an anomaly I don't think there's necessarily a ton of rick singers out there. And i think if they are their client base is probably shrinking just based on You know this story coming out. Not the film. But the story in general So if nothing else is to something that adds to the dialogue and that's all you can hope to do when you're working on projects like these chris. I know that it was a challenge making this film. But i really enjoy it. Thank you so much for talking to me about it thank you. That's it for this week's episode. Thanks again to chris. Smith and john carman for more of my takes on true crime and how we covered in the media. Check out my podcast crime writers on each week. 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NPR News: 06-12-2019 9PM ET
"Live from NPR news in Washington, I'm Jack Speer. Former White House communications director and longtime Trump confidante hope Hicks has agreed to sit down with the House Judiciary committee next week. The White House had previously sought to block Hicks. Testimony, claiming documents she held were subject to executive privilege NPR's Tim Mack has the story. The interview will take place behind closed doors. But House Judiciary committee. Chairman Jerry Nadler, said that the panel plans to make the transcript public promptly after the interview is conducted Nadler, who described Hicks as a key witness for special counsel. Robert Muller said that no topics would be off limits. This means that members of the committee can ask Hicks about her time in the Trump organization on the Trump campaign, and in the Trump White House. The House Judiciary committee is currently investigating Trump and his administration on a variety of issues, including alleged, abuse of power corruption, and obstruction of Justice. Tim Mack, NPR news, Washington. A former Stanford sailing coach, the first to be sensed in a wide ranging college cheating scandal will avoid serving time in prison US district judge riot Zobel sentencing Forty-one-year-old, John van damore in Boston. He received just one day in prison deemed served. He's also sentenced to two years of supervised. Release it will pay a ten thousand dollar fine van damore admitted he took more than six hundred thousand dollars in bribes from wealthy. Parents of hope to get their children into Stanford money. He says he gave to the schools sailing program. He's among fifty people charged in the college admission scandal. Others include actresses Lori Laughlin, and Felicity Huffman, Louisiana, man faces hate crime charges. That's in connection with church burnings earlier this year. NPR's Debbie Elliott reports, a federal indictment was unsealed today, the indictment charges. Holden Matthews with three counts of using fire to commit a foul, any and three counts of intentional damage to religious property classified as a hey. It crime under the US church arson Prevention Act. Matthews is the twenty one year old white son of a sheriff's deputy. He's accused of setting fires that destroyed three African American churches in and around appaloosas Louisiana over a span of ten days in late March and early April and a statement US attorney David Joseph said attacks against a group because of their religious beliefs will not be tolerated. Matthews also faces state arson charges. Debbie Elliott NPR news governments pool of reading continued to rise in may reaching two hundred seven point eight billion dollars up forty one and a half percent from year ago where we're much of that rise apparently reflects calendar quirks. There was all didn't fifty five billion in June benefit payments being shifted into may that's because June. I fell on a Saturday stocks closed lower today. The Dow Jones industrial average was down forty three points. The NASDAQ fell twenty nine points. This is NPR. Hong Kong's chief executive is blaming protesters for what she called a politically motivated, riot after police moved in on demonstrators opposing a proposal that would allow for extradition to the Chinese mainland in certain kinds of court cases, chief executive carry lamb, noting, some young people express their views peacefully, but she says, others resorted to what she called dangerous and life threatening acts, right? Police fired tear gas and rubber bullets in Hong Kong pro as protesters swarmed the legislature, their points of the extradition proposal fear will lead to erosion of civil liberties. In the former British colony scientists have found some of the earliest evidence of people smoking cannabis as a drug. They found traces of pot smoke on artifacts from ancient Chinese tombs and PR's ping, Huang reports. People have been smoking pot to get high for twenty five hundred years. Chinese archaeologists studied the char and a set of wooden containers from an agent cemetery in western China. Young Eamon, the lead investigator tested for chemical signs or biomarkers of cannabis who are such moment. We haven't to five biomarkers of calories, and this is among the earliest chemical evidence of kalpa smoking. They figured out that it was marijuana with elevated, THC content almost certainly us for getting high young says it was probably used in funeral rituals to help communicate with nature spirits, and maybe the dead, the paper comes that today in science advances ping pong NPR news oil fell four percent to fifty one fourteen barrel. I'm Jack Speer NPR news in Washington. Support for this podcast and the following message come from Chow Chow powers online ordering systems for local independent restaurants, supporting their courage, and creativity by putting more money back into the restaurants hands. Chow dot com slash NPR, local flavor rules.
AP Headline News Apr 08 2019 12:00 (EDT)
"The. A radio news. I'm Ed Donahue, the US is imposing new sanctions on Iran. The AP soccer megani reports. This time the focus is on Iran's Revolutionary Guards secretary of state, Mike Pompeo says it acknowledges reality that the revolutionary guard corps, actively takes part in funds and promotes terror around the world, the we'll take its rightful place on the same list as terror groups at supports of unease Hezbollah Palestinian Islamic Jihad, a mosque Tebas LA among others. It's the first time the US has designated part of another government as a terror organization in the move could have significant diplomatic and military -cations. Iran has threatened to retaliate at its top. Diplomat wants US troops in the middle. East added to a Ron's own terrorist replaced? Saga megani? At the White House. Transition is being put in place at the department of homeland security customs and border patrol Commissioner. Kevin michelina n- has the job for now. Now Kirsten Nielsen is expected to leave on Wednesday. She resigned deputy White House press secretary ogan Gidley says michelina, and we'll get to work right away. Knowledge of this issue is is not just extensive. But I think it will go to help educate the American people educate congress, and hopefully it will lead to some changes along the southern border when Nielsen leaves homeland security along with the Pentagon and the White House staff itself will be without permanent leaders Stanford University says it expelled a student who lied about her sailing credentials in Iraq -plication, it's linked to the widespread college, admissions bribery, scandal former Stanford sailing coach John van damore pleaded guilty to taking bribes in exchange for helping students get into the school police in Hawthorne, California near Los Angeles. Sega man shot and killed the mother of his seventeen month old child during a custody exchange in front of the Hawthorn police station. The man was later arrested. The child was not injured. This is AP radio. News. A study says Dr access through telephone results in more usage of antibiotics. This study is in the journal pediatrics. If finds that children with cold symptoms seen via telemedicine visits are far more likely to be prescribed antibiotics than those who go to a doctor's office or a clinic. This study finds that a higher proportion of those prescriptions disregarded medical guidelines raising the risk that they could cost side effects. We're talking here about telemedicine programs that you can call up without talking to your regular doctor. The American Academy of pediatrics says the limited physical exams and lack of access to patient records can harm care. I'm Rita Foley national park in South Africa, rhinoceros poacher at a wildlife. Preserve was stumped to death by an elephant and eaten by lions Rangers found the skull and trousers two other men believed to have been with the man killed or arrested on suspicion of poaching. Ed Donahue, AP radio. News a factor that seems Casuals claiming tens of thousands of LGBT lives every year tobacco. Yes. Smoking cigarettes can damage nearly every part of our bodies. So we choose to keep this life three from tobacco this free. Life read them to be tobacco free now. Now. It's love your car month and Napa and show your car. The love get a Napa bucket for two ninety nine and save twenty percent on almost everything you can fit inside like car wash car wax and tire shy. So save some cash and look good doing it by getting twenty percent with the Napa bucket, quality parts, helpful people. That's Napa know how no participating auto part stores. Exclusions apply. Minimum three items may not be combined. With other offers offer ends four thirty nineteen.
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"Support for this podcast and the following message from discover with the discovery miles card. They automatically match the miles you earn at the end of your first year. Discover it miles. Limitations apply. Discover match for new card members only learn more at discover dot com slash travel. Live from NPR news in Washington, I'm Jack Speer President, Donald Trump met with Poland's, president Andre doodo today and announced the US will deploy additional troops to Poland and Paris Asia Roscoe reports the polish government is seeking a greater US military presence Trump has agreed to send one thousand more troops to Poland, the NATO ally will pay to build new facilities to support the deployment Trump said, the US would likely transfer the servicemembers from elsewhere in Europe. We have fifty two thousand troops in Germany. We've had them there for a long, long time. So we'd be probably moving a certain number of troops to Poland. If we agree to do. Suppled plotted. Poland for already meeting Natal's target of spending, two percent of GDP on the military while Germany, and most other members of the alliance of not Aisha Roscoe, NPR news. The White House of former Stanford sailing coach, the first to be sentenced in a wide ranging college cheating scandal will avoid serving time in prison US district judge Rizal sensing, Forty-one-year-old, John van damore in Boston. He received one day in prison deemed served. He also was sentenced to two years of supervised release and will pay a ten thousand dollar. Fine. Then two more admitted he took more than six hundred thousand dollars in bribes from wealthy parents, who hope to get their children into Stanford money, he says he gave to the Stanford sailing program, he's among fifty people charged in the college admission scandal. Others include actresses, Louis Laughlin and Felicity. Huffman. A jury has delivered another conviction in connection with serial sexual molester. Larry Nassar, William Strampe, the former dean of Michigan state university's been found guilty of multiple. Crimes both for misconduct of his own and for neglecting, his duty with respect to NAS our when he was implied with MSU. Michigan public radio's shayna Roth res- more after more than five hours of deliberation. A jury said that the sexual comments Williams, trample made to female students was criminal, the jury agreed with the prosecutor that strangle used his position as dean to attempt to get sexual favors strangle now faces up to five years in prison. John Dak MAC is strangles attorney, obviously respect the decision of the jury. Just don't agree with it at this point. Strampe was also found guilty of two counts of willful neglect of duty. He failed to oversee former MSU sports, Dr Larry Nassar after two thousand fourteen investigation, hundreds of women have come forward to say that are sexually assaulted them under the guise of medical treatment for NPR news. I'm shayna Roth in Lansing, Michigan. Visceral governments pool of writing continued to rise in may reaching a record. Two hundred seven point eight billion dollars up forty one and a half percent from a year ago for much of that rise. Apparently reflects calendar quirks, still the deficits expected to climb sharp with this year, topping a trillion dollars stocks lost ground today. The Dow dropped forty three points, the NASDAQ was down twenty nine points. You're listening to NPR. Hong Kong's chief executive is blaming protesters for what she called a politically motivated, riot after police moved in on demonstrators opposing proposal without for extradition to the Chinese mainland in certain kinds of court cases, shave executive Carrie Lam, noting, some young people, especially views peacefully, which is others resorted to what she called dangerous and life threatening acts pundits of the extradition proposal for it will lead to erosion of civil liberties. 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Full Episode: Wednesday, June 12, 2019
"Hey, I'm Brad milkey from ABC news. And if you like world news tonight, I wanna let you know about another podcast that I host called start here. Every morning in twenty minutes. We'll give you a whip around the biggest stories driving the day with context from the people who are covering them up close that includes David Muir, Tom yomas, the whole world news tonight team so start smart and subscribe to start here brought to you by indeed used by over three million businesses for hiring where business owners and HR professionals can post job openings with screener questions, then soared review and communicate with candidates from an online dashboard. Learn more at indeed dot com slash tonight. Tonight. Several developing stories as we come on the air, the ABC news exclusive, what on one with President Trump tonight, George Stephanopoulos and the interview, just moments ago. The president on twenty twenty on the new polls that show several Democrats beating the president in head to head matchups. And George asks if a foreign power Russia, or China offers dirt on his opponent, this time would the president. Take several other breaking headlines tonight, the new surveillance just in his thirties. Now, call it, it coordinated assassination attempt on former Red Sox star David Ortiz. You will see multiple angles just released by investigators John Stewart and those first responders from nine eleven here in New York City, and the horrific toll on their health tonight after blasting congress for threatening funding dragging their feet, and taking aim at politicians who were no-shows. What's now happened tonight the plane crash into the water and the discovery at this hour, the son of a sheriff's deputy tonight, charged with federal hate. Crime accused of torching several black churches. Bad weather moving into the east coast. Several major cities and what could bring dangerous driving and flight delays. The Stingray scare off the coast up to fifteen people stung, the new warning after Cuba Gooding junior says he will turn himself into the NYPD for questioning what we're learning in this case tonight and America strong. The father and daughter and the dance this is ABC news tonight with David Muir, vide- bigness, great to have you with us here at Wednesday night, and we have several developing stories but we begin tonight with the exclusive interview just before we came on the air. Tonight, President Trump with our George Stephanopoulos. The president talking about the race for twenty twenty and those new polls getting a lot of attention that showed several Democrats ahead of the president in head to head matchups. Joe Biden with the biggest lead over the president tonight. The president saying those polls are untrue, and telling Georgia has a strong case to make to the American people why he should be re-elected and. George asking the president, if the Russians if China have on his opponent, this time around would he entertain it or would he call the FBI? Let's get right to George live at the White House tonight where this interview just wrapped up, George good evening. David good evening, was an extraordinary forty eight hours access like we've never seen before to the president of the United States on Air Force One in that presidential limo, the beasts and in the Oval Office where the president took on those polls, he calls fake as we walked into the Oval Office. President Trump had already tweeted about new poll showing him behind the Democrats clearly not happy. Why does it potty some because? It's untrue. I like the truth, and I'm actually a very honest, if I thought they were correct, I wouldn't be complaining at all. I understand that it's like the witch hunt that goes on the Russia investigation, a topic he raised I and return to again. And again, as he spoke in the White House over on Capitol Hill. Donald Trump junior was arriving to testify again. Another director, your son dying juniors before the Senate intelligence committee today. Again, he was not charged with anything in retrospect, that not only wasn't he charged if you read it with all of the horrible, fake news. I mean, I was reading that my son was going to go to jail. This is a good young man that he was going to go to jail in June of two thousand sixteen just months before the election. Don jR received an Email from a business associate promising dirt on Hillary Clinton from the Russian government, Don juniors response. If it's what you say, I love it the conversation led to a meeting in Trump Tower that included the president's son his son in law. Jared Kushner and a Russian lawyer, Don jR insists nothing came of it, and special counsel, Robert Muller concluded there was not enough evidence to charge, a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia. And then the report comes out and they didn't even say they started. The FBI when he got that, okay? Let's put yourself in a position year, congressman somebody comes up and says, hey, I have information on your opponent. You call the FBI. I can think I mean from one you do. I've seen a lot of things over my life. I don't think in my whole life I've ever called the FBI in my whole life. I you don't call the FBI. You throw somebody out of your office, you do what gore got stolen briefing book he called the FBI well, that's different is stolen briefing. But this is this is somebody said we have information on your opponent. Oh, let me call the FBI. Give me a break lifeless or director says, and that's what should happen. The FBI director is wrong. You're camping this time round of foreigners if Russia if China if someone else offers you formation upon, it should be accepted or should be called the FBI I think maybe do both. I think you might wanna listen. I don't this nothing wrong with listening if somebody called from a country Norway, we have information on your opponent. I think I'd wanna hear you want that. Interference in our elections. They have information. I think I'd take it if I thought there was something wrong go, maybe to the FBI, if I thought there was something wrong. But when somebody comes up with upper research, right? They come up with a research, oh, let's call the FBI. The FBI doesn't have enough agents to take care of it. But you go and talk, honestly to congressmen, they all do it. They always have, and that's the way it is. It's called upo research. So let's get back to George tonight, George, it's very clear. The race for twenty twenty is also on the president's mind the tweets already trading attacks, Joe Biden, and he told you that he believes he has a strong case to make for reelection. He's excited about the case on the economy on tariffs and trade. Dave news excited about relaunching next Tuesday, Orlando says it over seventy thousand people will attend. So he's ready to go out to the country and make that case. But it's also clear as you saw David that he's angry at the press angry about those polls and still very concerned and, and interested in that Russia investigation, or an incredible access over a couple of days doorstep Annapolis, at the White House, tonight, George, thank you. And of course, George. You'll have much more first thing in the morning on good Morning America at a primetime special in the coming days, that date and time coming in the meantime, we do move onto the other major news. This Wednesday night, we have new surveillance tonight. Multiple angles the thirties and the Dominican Republic. Now claim the shooting of baseball legend. David Ortiz was a coordinated effort to kill him. They released the surveillance, just today of that crowded club and the gunman shooting or TS in the back, just one part of what you're about to see right here and tonight, we have new information coming in now and Ortiz's condition. Tom yomas in Boston again tonight. Tonight. Dramatic move the chief of police in the Dominican Republic holding up the gun. He says was used to try and kill David Ortiz announcing they arrested the alleged hitman who pulled the trigger along with others and releasing this avalance video showing what he describes as a coordinated effort to kill in that video, you can see to Hyundai's parked in front of each other one man getting out of one of the cars, a motorcycle nearby that motorcycle, the alleged getaway vehicle shown moments later with two men on it driving down the street moments before the ambush. Police say the suspects stocked Ortiz while he was out at a nightclub in some of the Mingo on Sunday night. The gunman wearing a baseball cap walking up to big Papi shooting him in the back the sound of gunfire, sending club goers running from their seats. And today police announcing that alleged gunman is Roe fee crews, he's under arrest along with five. Other men in custody for the attempted murder of Ortiz police say they are still looking for at least one more suspect, and that the bounty to kill the baseball great was less than eight thousand dollars tonight, or teases wife says the former slugger was able to sit up and take some steps, but will remain in ICU over the coming days. Tom yomas live from Boston again, tonight, we're teases now recovering in the beginning. Police said robbery was not the motive Tom as you reported. So police now revealed any possible reason or motive for the alleged. David, it's very strange today. Police gave us so much. They revealed the alleged plot the suspects, they say, they have confessions, we have the who, but we don't have the why for some reason, police will not reveal why those men got together to allegedly try and kill David Ortiz. There are several rumors right now circulating around the Dominican Republic. But for now David they remain rumors back to you with us tonight. Tom, great to have you. It was last night, here we showed you. That emotional moment on Capitol Hill. John Stewart with first responders from nine eleven blasting congress for dragging its feet for threatening funding and blasting and couple of politicians who didn't show up twenty four hours later. What's happened now? Let's get right live. Terry Moran in Washington tonight with more on the vote that took place today, Terry David, this is a big step and one that is no doubt made possible by that passionate advocacy of John Stewart. The full House Judiciary committee, Democrats and Republicans unanimously voted today to pass and fully fund the nine eleven victims compensation. And make it easier for those first responders to file claims and get them heard expeditiously doesn't happen much in this in this town. When we get a bipartisan majority like that, it now goes to the house floor where it's expected to pass the key person. Now Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell. He said today, he hadn't looked at the issue lately that triggered Senate minority leader, Chuck Schumer of New York to say, please, put it on the house, on the Senate floor and get this Bill done that should come later in the summer, but stay tuned. A big step today in large part, thanks to Jon Stewart, David. We'll be watching Terry. Thank you next tonight. There are new federal hate crimes charges that string of arson fires that destroyed African American churches in Louisiana. The son of a sheriff's deputy twenty year old Holden. Mattheus is now facing those charges, and here's ABC's Stevenson samba, again, tonight, federal prosecutors tonight, say it was his hatred for religion moved this twenty one year old son of a local sheriff's deputy to burn down three black churches in Saint Landry. Louisiana, holding Matthews is now facing both state and tonight, federal hate crime charges for the church burnings on March twenty sixth, April second and April fourth. Occurred on the clue that led investigators to the deputy son was a red gas can found at the third fire on April fourth here at Mount Pleasant Baptist church. Authorities trace that can to a local WalMart and say that receipts and surveillance videos show Matthews buying the tools. He needed to start the fires. They say surveillance video shows him driving. His father's gold pickup truck at each location, a gofundme page set up to help the churches rebuild, as now raise more than two million dollars. Here's his pleading not guilty to the state charges. If convicted of the federal ones he could be sentenced to more than one hundred years in prison. David St Louis insomnia. Who's been following this case for Steve? Thank you, next. The weather threat on both coasts tonight, the east bracing for heavy rain and several major cities. This could be a dangerous driving and flight delays ahead. So rob Marciano tracking it all for us. Of course, rob, great Seve. I see you David another late season. Soak it here in the east with the Carolinas Georgia area very saturated. They're getting the opening round just sit on the radar scope at the rain shield extends all the way back in a Missouri. Because the upper lows over Michigan gotta take a couple of days for this to get through tomorrow. The folks will be on that coastal though, DC Philly Baltimore in the morning. I ninety five heavy rain, getting in New York, and then eventually Boston with maybe more rounds coming in the evening in the west another record breaker, for Portland and Seattle Pacific breezes kicking tomorrow. But the he's going to be up there, again in Phoenix and Vegas right into the weekend and getting in and around here in the northeast tomorrow. David is not going to be easy. David toray. Rob. Thank you, next to a major development in that college admission scandal, a federal judge handing down the first sentence tonight to a coach who pleaded guilty. Prosecutors had asked for thirteen months. But what that judge gave instead ABC's Johnson in Boston tonight. No prison. Time for the former Stanford University head sailing coach instead, a judge sentencing John van damore to just one day. Time served and two years supervised release as part of that college admission scandal. This mistake impacted the people I love admire most van or pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit racketeering. In one case prosecutors say he created a fake sailing profile for Chinese student, UC gel after receiving a five hundred thousand dollar bribe from the schemes accused mastermind Rick singer mid-september, I'm getting down her family allegedly paying six point five million dollars to singer, but never charged arguing they were tricked into believing the money was going to charity gel, no longer attend Stanford. What makes Mr. van Amores case, unique compared to the other defendants. He didn't talk at any of the money. It went all to the university. Stanford says it plans to donate that money, today's sentence, a potential setback for prosecutors who had ask for thirteen months, Felicity Huffman who also pleaded guilty. We'll be sentenced in September seeing this week at her daughter's high school graduate. Nation in pictures posted by the Daily Mail, but Lori Lachlan in her husband fighting back both pleading not guilty and Johnson joins us live tonight from the courthouse there in Boston and wit. Prosecutors had asked for prison time did not get it today. So a lot of folks are gonna be wondering what could this mean? For Felicity Huffman and Laughlin. Well, David the judge today pointed out that the Stanford coach is likely the least culpable of all of the other defendants with her guilty plea. Prosecutors are recommending four months in prison for Felicity Huffman. Laurie Lachlan and her husband could face years behind bars if convicted David, which Unson live tonight with thank you overseas this evening in those pictures from Hong Kong were tens of thousands or sending a message to China protesting new legislation that would allow people to be sent to China for trial. Some protesters clashing with police who lobbed tear gas and rubber bullets ABC foreign correspondent James Longman is on the scene. Tonight. Only with umbrellas and they youth. Thousands of protesters clashing again with Hong Kong. Police rubber bullets Tegas raining down on the huge crowds blocking roads through the heart of this global financial center advancing riot police ripping through barricades officers, taking direct aim. There's been this cotton mouse between police on the students all day, but now take is being deployed with hood, it just behind this building at least seventy two in hospital, some with serious injuries fighting future many resort just teenagers angry at a proposed extra additional which would send those wanted by Chinese authorities back to the mainland. They say it underlines Hong Kong Special status, and Beijing could use it to target political and economic rivals. The Dan did with ROY Kaz suspending debate as many couldn't reach the chamber. But the government here is adamant the law will pass sooner or later at James Longman reporting tonight. We do know that, that street has now been cleared, and even though these protesters James have temporary victory lawmakers are still vowing to push that Bill through allowing China to essentially come calling. That's right. David authorities have any open this street, but protest is all clear. They will be back on these streets and they will stay until a vote on this law. Goes ahead and beyond Davis James Longman reporting in from Hong Kong. James, thank you in backyard home tonight. There was a very rare sight of the skies over Washington C today, Marine Corps, f thirty five fighter jet flying over the Washington Monument, and the White House, as President Trump and the first lady, along with the polish president at his wife watch from the rose garden, the fly over Mark Poland's agreement now to buy f thirty five's from the US there is still much more ahead on world news tonight, this Wednesday after Cuba Gooding junior says he will turn himself into the NYPD here in New York for questioning what we're learning in this case also had the plane crashing into water today. Urgency teams rushing to the scene searching for victims. And there is news coming in on discovery late today, new developments in the search for that missing mother of five where police are now looking tonight and what her estranged husband now out on bond we've seen doing today. And the Stingray scare right off the coast tonight, up to fifteen people stung and the new warning. 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That's when to delta agents came to the rescue contacting their headquarters who managed to find a spare plane to fly the group of forty one students in chaperones directly to Virginia, essentially a private flight, nobody else was on there, except us and the kids were absolutely amazed as planned it got to see all the sites. Thanks to some. Help that came out of the clear blue sky. American Airlines did apologize for the cancellation which they say was weather related and out of their control. A delta spokesperson told us this story is a testament to the culture and heart of delta people David competition alive in strong Linsey Davis. Our thanks to you to the index of other news tonight, the deadly plane crash into a lake near Orlando authorities recovering the bodies late today of the pilot and the passenger the system going down shortly after takeoff, the pilot reporting, low fuel the FAA NTSB are investigating tonight, new developments in the search for that missing mother of five in new Canaan, Connecticut. Police dive teams today in the water in Avon searching for Jennifer dulas her estranged husband photos, Dula out jogging today. Wearing an ankle monitor one day after pleading not guilty to tampering with evidence. There has been a Stingray scare in San Diego County up to fifteen people reportedly stung swimming along the beach there accidentally stepping on Stingray's. Authorities are blaming warmer ocean temperatures for their increase in the area swimmers are now on heightened. Lert there tonight and news this evening, about actor Cuba Gooding junior. He's accused of groping a woman at a rooftop bar in New York City, TMZ obtaining video of him at the bar with others. He reportedly plans to turn himself into police for questioning because the insists he did nothing wrong finally tonight, here America strong. Even when the odds were against him the father determined dance with his daughter after all, is the father of the bride. This is the story of a father, determined to dance with his daughter, the new bride a dance that looked unlikely harmony Walton's father, Bruce, Walton is an ex NFL player about two years ago, Bruce, suffered a series of health battles, which took his hearing and left him using a Walker. So when it came time to prepare for harmonies wedding, they came up with an idea, Bruce, picked the song over the rainbow because he knows the words and he chose Israel comical, bullies version of that famous song, and in front of that wedding party armies, handle her heart thing. Think dance. You can see harmony mouthing the words to her father harmony telling ABC news were totally on beat then came the ugly cry and her father tonight, saying it was very emotional for us, both. I had zero rhythm with my dance moves, but I didn't care. It was one of the most beautiful moments of my life freeze. Framed in my mind forever. Harmony, and her father, Bruce and their dance. Thanks for watching a Wednesday night, I'm David Muir. I hope to see you right back here tomorrow from all of us here at ABC news evening tonight, brought to you by indeed used by over three million businesses for hiring, where business owners and HR professionals can post job openings with screener questions, than sort review and communicate with candidates from an online dashboard. Learn more at indeed dot com slash tonight.
Morning Joe 6/12/19
"I just went to the Oval Office and found this beautiful letter from President Obama. It was really very nice of him to do that. And we will cherish that we will keep that. And we won't even tell the press what's in that letter. They letter was given to me by Kim Jong and that letter was sir nice letter. All would you like to see what was in that leather? Would you like how much how much? That she agreement that everybody says, I don't have. No, because I'm gonna let Mexico do the announcement the right time for Mexico. They wanna go through. But here's the agreement is very simple agreement. This is one page, this is one page of a very long very good agreement for both Mexico and the United States. President Trump, obviously very excited about his love letters from dictators and secret agreements, especially the very secret agreements, and we'll find out actually if they're agreements or not. But anyway, good morning. Welcome to morning Joe. It's Wednesday June the twelfth. And with us this morning, we have MSNBC contributor, Mike barnicle national political correspondent for NBC news and MSNBC, and the author of the red and the blue Steve Kornacki. It's gonna be great to have him with us this morning. A lot of polls, and also, of course, back and forth between Donald Trump and Joe Biden all day yesterday. We'll tell you what it means also Washington bureau chief for USA today, the author of the matriarch, Susan page, and NBC news. National political reporter, Mike, minimally. So Joe Biden continues to maintain its lead in the democratic primary field. According to the latest Quinnipiac, poll thirty percent of democratic voters said they support the former VP. Putting him eleven points ahead of Vermont. Senator Bernie Sanders, however Biden's down a few points since last month. Nineteen percent of Democrats say they back Sanders. He's up three points from last month and fifteen percent back. Massachusetts, Senator Elizabeth Warren, she's up two points, a percent support mayor Pete. He's up. Three seven percent said they support Senator, comma, Harris and three percent support, former congressman, and of course, Texas Senate candidate Beto award, but will be with us later on this morning, Willie. Look at the bowl and so many of these polls seem to be breaking in one direction that is you've got, you got your top tier, then your top tier is Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, and Elizabeth Warren and it really is starting to shape up again. Maybe it's pole position. I don't know exactly how early. This will prove to be to mean anything but boy, you really see Joe Biden taking the lion's share. But then you have Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren with Elizabeth Warren doing what we all thought she would do at the beginning, and that is cut in two Bernie Sanders, massive support, and the Democratic Party. Yeah. And it was probably inevitable that vice president Biden would dip down a little bit from his Astra nominal numbers before he got into the rates. And then the early days and weeks of this campaign. Bernie Sanders is kind of been holding steady. But you're right. Elizabeth Warren is the one who's come up to that top tier mayor pizzas somewhere ticks below their Steve Kornacki. We were talking before we came on the air about Joe Biden sort of coming from that forty percent space down to that thirty percent space. What strikes you, you look at that latest poll? Yeah. I mean, I guess one thing that strikes me too, is when you take a step back and you realize there are twenty four people right now seeking the death. Critic, presidential nomination and really, you've just got a handful who are registering at all in the polls right now, I think one of the things we've seen the first six months of this year is there's been such a logjam there've been so many candidates. It's actually been very difficult for anybody to break through outside of that top group Buddha. Judge got in there. Comma, Harris Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden outside of that. Nobody's registering that much, there's an opportunity obviously coming up for them. But when you look at Joe Biden, look, I think it's sort of in a holding pattern right now. It's a question of what does Joe Biden look like what does he sound like what message does he have what response does he have for his opponents when he gets on that too based stage in a couple of weeks? I think that's sort of test. And then as soon as that debate ends soon as he's off the stage. He accelerates. I think we're expecting his campaign schedule some. So then what is he looked like when you're getting more of a permanent almost data day campaign from Joe Biden? I, I was struck yesterday, just watching from afar, these events. He did at Iowa started out, you saw him at the. Radium reading from his text looking down at prepared remarks looking down at his notes in very subdued seemed like in some ways, you know, not a very zestful performance. Then I looked up an hour later, he walked away from the podium at the next event. He's looking into the crowd. He's wal walking pacing the room right there. That's the Joe Biden. I remember from past campaigns, and that's the Joe Biden. I think you know, who could tap into that very vast goodwill. It exists from among democratic voters, maybe so, and that does seem to me at least to be a pretty good formula for Joe Biden, actually reading notes at the lectern staying on script the lectern. And then when he goes out shakes hands with people connects in a positive way. That's pretty powerful and and probably his best path forward. But Mike barnicle you know, a lot of people will love to dismiss polls that are coming out in the summer of two thousand nineteen oh, it's not going to have. Big impact boy, but let me tell you something when the next FEC filings are dropped then you will know it makes a difference if you're sitting at one percent. If you're sitting at two percent. Good luck, getting the thirty five forty forty five million dollars. You need to survive till Iowa, you just won't do it pretty soon. We're going to see that these polls actually do matter, they do Joe. And it's, it's really striking with Steve pointed out, because I think a lot of people noticed Joe's initial presentation yesterday reading off the notes, and then an hour and a half later, you know, out in the crowd, speaking, except marina, so it was almost as, if there were two different Joe Biden's, and the one Joe Biden later in the day is the one you recognize but back to raising money in the importance of polls. Now. In speaking to a lot of Democrats over the past few days. A lot of people are struck by a couple of things Elizabeth Warren's rise in the polls in here, intensity in terms of issuing. I've got a plan. It is really taken hold, I think, is hurt. Bernie Sanders as we've indicated over the past few weeks. But the other question, that's raised that I hear repeatedly in Steve. I don't know whether you hear this is what has happened to camera Harris. I mean she came out of the gate like like wildfire and seems to have stalled in this frozen at seven percent and can't move from there. Yeah. And it's, it's interesting. The hair strategy to there was some news in the last week or so that the campaign is getting ready to it in his now, investing in Iowa aggressively it, and I think the idea is, they're going to try to move the numbers in Iowa in the leadoff caucus day, in there's that there's that theory with, with a Harris, that's always been there that it's sort of like the Obama path back in two thousand eight there's a slow. Link shot effect from Iowa from exceeding expectations that could change everything in South Carolina overnight. That's what happened with Obama twelve years ago that has existed in theory for common areas. But you're right. I think look, Elizabeth Warren lately, has been getting a lot more attention before that. It was judge in between. You had the Joe Biden launch, and she's really kind of squeezed out lately, on the question of elective -bility Comal Harris. Like many of these Democrats is doing very well in a head to head matchup with President Trump that new coupon shows President Trump lagging far behind. Joe Biden and five other top Democrats in general election matchup, Quinnipiac, university poll taken between Thursday and Monday shows Trump trailing. Joe Biden by thirteen points, fifty three to forty Bernie Sanders beats Trump by nine points in the poll fifty one to forty two comma Harris ahead by eight points. Elizabeth Warren by seven points, Pete Buddha. Judge in Cory Booker each lead the president by five points with President Trump failing to break. Forty two percent against any single one of them, he's general election results pattern of people who've you Trump favorably in the poll as forty two percent approve of the president's job performance forty-one percent credit, President Trump for a good economy and only forty one percent approve of the president's policy toward Mexico, which he pours his touting as a big victory. So Joe we go back to those head to head matchups. It's stunning to me, and it has been in all these head-to-heads over the last several weeks that Donald Trump is no different against Joe Biden, then he is against comma, Harris or Cory Booker mayor Pete or any of these candidates. He is a forty percent forty one percent president, what he is. And you know leading up to the mid terms. When Democrats were so concerned, everybody was so concerned, it was important to remember that, despite all the sound and the fury despite all the tweets despite the daily controversies you had to focus on the fact that Donald Trump was forty percent. President that met six ten americ-. Did not agree with Donald Trump, and what he was doing and his presidency that, of course, would that lead to in the midterms led to the biggest vote, total route, and the history of the United States of America for Democrats against Republicans and Susan page your look at the president here and he's sitting at forty forty one forty two percent. You can go back. You can see everything that is done. You can see everything that he has said since January twentieth two thousand seventeen when he did his American carnage speech, and you can see that all of his words and all of his deeds, and all of his actions have been focused on one thing. Solidifying his base. Well, congratulations, Mr President, you've got forty percent. And that's all you've got. Right. You know it's, it's in some ways a sign of the president's drink that he has had forty percent support regardless of what he's done. Those are people who have been with him from the. And are likely to be with him forever in the question is, is that the ceiling is, is forty or forty two percent the ceiling for President Trump. Because if you hear sealing his forty two percent the only way you win. The presidency is in a three way race not impossible to have a three way. But if we have to race, you're not gonna win with forty two percent. And if you look at the ability of, of President Trump's level of support look at where Joe Biden's advantage comes in this Quinnipiac poll, it's interesting, the quip Trump and Biden are tied among white voters. They are tied among male voters. Those are the groups that delivered the presidency to Donald Trump last time run. And the reason that I think the White House is so focused on Biden is because of how competitive Joe Biden is with those particular voter groups. You know, they porn thing, remember, make is that polls stone always reflect the breadth of Donald Trump's support. We noticed in two thousand sixteen we could be talking to a thousand people, and nobody would mitt that they were voting for Donald Trump would actually talked to him afterwards. And they would all come up saying they were voting for Donald Trump. This is a little different. He's, he's now running as an incumbent politician who hasn't kept his word on Mexico paying for the wall, or on healthcare for all universal healthcare, and improved healthcare cheaper, healthcare, or tax cuts for working class Americans. So there's all of that, but at the same time when it is, Donald Trump onstage against one, democrat, it is going to tighten up. But for now he starts as a forty percent. President he does. And Mike was talking. About the different Biden's. And how when Biden stuck to the script, it seemed different I will say doesn't matter stick to the discipline and you make this point in your column in the Washington Post because, you know, for a brief moment in his presidency, Trump stuck to the script in Normandy, as you say, and it worked, and that's exactly what we need Joe. Writes this President Trump drew praise from editorial writers and thought leaders across the political spectrum for a day, dress that temporarily soothe the nerves of NATO allies and foreign policy analysts alike, forgive Democrats being less than impressed by their nemesis is reading skills, but they should not forget that their ability to dislodge the Donald from sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue next year, may depend on the certain Scranton, Pennsylvania native doing the same considering Joe Biden, the Democrats best hope for twenty twenty has a chequered. Bath as a candidate for national office. His supporters can only hope that when the former vice president gets on stage. He smiles for the crowd reads, his speech, and exits stage, left waving as he goes, that's because Biden has proved himself, uniquely challenged going off script taking twenty minutes to answer a question, and causing himself in his staff on necessary political grief. If you think I'm trying to send Biden a message with this column, you are correct. Too much is riding next year's election for any democratic candidate to shoot. From the hip rhetorically, America's future will likely be left in the hands of which ever seventy something politician, sticks most closely to the script that is handed to him and the difference Joe between Joe Biden sticking to the script and Trump. Is that Joe Biden at least is intellectually connected to what he and his team, or are fighting for, and it wouldn't hurt them to do that. While with Trump, you see a glaring. Difference from being in front of the cameras in front with the crosses in Normandy, behind him talking to Laura Ingram and calling people, names and acting reprehensibly, and then walking up at stage and looking presidentially presidential, because he actually stuck to the script. It was almost jarring what we would be. We would be real served if the president continued stimulated age groups that are handed him for the most part, quoted in the column, a Napoleon, quote that David Ignatius reminded me of Normandy, and he said, great generals, or those who can do the average things when everybody else is going crazy and Mike mentally. There are a lot of people who support Joe Biden who talked to me, and I'm sure of talk to you, and talk to all of us off camera saying my God. I hope he sticks to the script. I hope he doesn't start rattling off things that are off message. Stick to the script look down read your notes, and that you can shake hands with people and be the old Joe. When you get out in the audience. Yeah Joe I think what the past week and a half has shown us is that the only person who can disqualify Joe Biden is Joe Biden himself. I was talking the other day with one or the other democratic presidential hopefuls, who was in Iowa this weekend at that dinner where you had more than I think it was nineteen candidates, speaking, his read of the room was that the Democrats who went after Joe Biden actually hurt because of that, that the, the room turned against them when they went after Joe Biden, we also saw yesterday the president playing into the Biden campaign strategy. President's attacks on Joe Biden only elevate Joe Biden when his campaign's primary focus has been about his electability argument. And so what we did see yesterday in the three events, Joe by did yesterday was that his strong event, perhaps. Was the last event of the day where he was on the teleprompter? I've been covering a lot of the Biden events so far and his performance hasn't been as strong when he's reading from notes, he does better when he is speaking extemporaneously, but he's strongest in a room full of enthusiastic. Democrats fees off their energy, and when he's reading from the teleprompter, and I think we saw him at his most effective there. The challenge, of course, is going to be in this debate when other candidates go after him and his record, which is he's very proud of will he have the discipline to brush those attacks off. That's the big question I think, heading forward. All right. Mike, thank you so much. We really appreciate you being with us. And of course, nobody has better incites Joe Biden, the campaign trail than you. We preach with this this morning. I remember he's funny. Mike's talking about teleprompters in smaller events. I remember seeing John Kerry in two thousand four studying teleprompters, who's putting them up before relatively small of it. And I was thinking what why would he do that? Well. I did it because he was smart. That's Biden needs to do where two or more Democrats gathered there to should be his teleprompters make as good Lord. My gut tells me though, that Biden needs to obviously work hard on staying focused and being on message, a who am I say, but I, I like Joe Biden, and I don't want Joe Biden to change from being who he is. Because that humanity is very connective today American public. And we saw that through some challenges. He had earlier on in the campaign where, you know, people were were trying to bring him down, and ultimately, Joe Biden won the day by being a good man. A good guy that you can connect with Steve Kornacki. The polls that this at this time and in the race. President Trump's not doing so. Well, having said that it worries me for any democrat to say gleefully because there's a lot of time ahead. No. I mean. Absolutely. And of course, for a democrat, y'all need to think back to twenty sixteen. It all the poll numbers you saw about Donald Trump, look, he was losing to Hillary Clinton in the head to head, but when he was within striking distance throughout the campaign, and you had all these underlying numbers about Trump in two thousand sixteen. I remember going through these, when you'd ask voters is he competent enough to be president. Is he qualified to be president? Is he honest enough to be president de trust them with the button, those kinds of questions, and he was getting numbers on those on those issues by and large that were substantially worse than Hillary Clinton substantially worse than any winning candidate? We'd ever seen before. You add it in the fact that he was consistently trailing Hillary Clinton in the polls in, that's where that widespread expectation came from the Donald Trump wasn't just going to lose an election day, that potentially he was going to lose badly on election day. So. I think that's the cautionary note, everybody. It's not just Democrats that I think everybody has to carry into twenty sixteen and I think the question that sort of at the heart of that is in terms of Trump victory scenario is he able to create that same sort of level of polarization that was there in two thousand sixteen where Hillary Clinton's negative numbers are favorable unfavorable election day. They were not that much better than Donald Trump. And ultimately, they were close enough to Donald Trump's that he was able to get enough voters in just the right places to look at Trump. Look at Clinton say I don't like either. But I don't like her more don't like her party more. I don't like you know, sort of side of the cultural argument that she represents Moore that seemed to be what drove him over the top at the end, and it is an open question. He's gonna covered in twenty twenty that's different. But there's no question of whether he can recreate that and Susan it really did yesterday just for a day, look like a general election, having both Donald Trump and Joe Biden in the state of Iowa. Joe Biden focused on Donald Trump. Donald Trump focus. Almost exclusively on Joe Biden among democratic contenders, and Joe Biden's message was on the one hand about policy. He was talking about tariffs and their impact on farmers there. And but he did go back again, to sort of that, gut argument he's been making, which is this is not who we are. How are you feeling about these two and a half years? Do you want another four years of this? I can change that I'm the guy who can beat him now the poll that we showed shows that a lot of other people may have that cases. Well, that other Democrats say, well, if you look at the polling on beating him by seven eight ten points as well. Steve makes smart point to remember, which is President Trump one last time, even though people had concerned about he goes into this race with one huge new advantage. And that is the US economy. He's the incumbent. You look at that Quinnipiac poll, three out of four Americans said their own personal financial situation was good are, are good or excellent seven out of ten Americans said, the US, Konami was good or excellent. We do. We have no history in modern times of defeating incumbent president. If people are feeling that good about the economy. Now at the moment, Trump is not getting the benefits from the since the economy is good in this record setting recovery. But it's possible that, that is a very powerful court gets even though there continued to be these deep questions about his competence and fitness for office kind of things that Joe Biden was trying to strike yesterday. That's a great point. I mean unemployment at three point six percent. So many. The other so many of the parts of the economy humming along very well. This is a recovery that started in two thousand ten and it has been roaring for nine years now, which, of course, is unusual in and of itself, that the cycle has been up for nine years, so we'll see what happens, but really despite all of that great news again, I just want to go over the head to head matchups in one, we didn't show before let's put the head to head matchups up on the screen if we can Alex, just show, again, this Quinnipiac poll, Donald Trump getting pounded by bind by thirteen by Sanders by nine hair losing by eight war, and losing by seven mayor PD's losing by five Cory Booker, he's losing by five as well and one that we didn't even put up our good friend Benjamin dry. Brought it to our attention. Waxy yellow build up forty eight percent. Trump forty percent you have waxy, of course, Benjamin dryer of dryers English. But yeah. Wow. Three point six. Employment and waxy yellow Bill saying that just ahead. By the way. Why is the margin of error really when you're talking about waxy Ellen Bill and stay three percent? But at this hour of the day, I think the image of waxy yellow build up, it's not what I'm looking for or speak for sex. You're saying you prefer more before happy. Later in the day. All right. Well, thank you so much for Benjamin barrier for bringing that important poll numbers onto for the day. Benjamin, I think Benjamin, you can go back to bed and sleep all day, by the way, redraw years, English is good and stuff. Hi, it's Katie ter- want to keep up with MSNBC while you're on the go. Subscribe to the NBC daily newsletter. You'll get the best of what you've missed during this unprecedented era of news, text MSNBC to six eight six six to subscribe. Welcome back. Here's a look at some of the other stories we're following this morning riots in Hong Kong continued to erupt as police used tear gas on demonstrators who attempted to storm. The city's government buildings aren't with bricks and bottles. The protesters clashed with riot police who used batons pepper spray, and rubber bullets to suppress the demonstrators in the city's downtown, the political unrest comes amid backlash over a Bill that would allow people facing trials and mainland China to be extradited legislative councils vote was scheduled for today. But has since been moved to next week amid the ongoing clashes, we'll stay on that a former Stanford University sailing coach is expected to be the first person sentenced in the college admission scandal today. John van damore pleaded guilty to record tearing and honest fraud services for accepting six hundred and ten. Thousand dollars in bribe money for the university sailing program in return for falsely qualifying three students for admission. God van damore, did not directly pocket the cash himself and his alleged role in the plan ultimately failed when the students did not attend Stanford. Prosecutors will ask for thirteen months behind bars at his sentencing hearing this afternoon, that's according to the Boston Globe, and as for some actual athletes that depending champion US women's national team made quite the statement in their World Cup opener in friends, defeating Thailand with turnament record. Thirteen nil victory today. Seven US women found the back of the net including a record matching five goals scored by Alex Morgan, as team, USA finished with thirty nine shots ten corners and seventy five percent possession in the blowout, actually. Barnacle you always complained that saw is like a one to nothing. You know, sport that that's incredible. That's incredible. It's I mean, sure they missed an extra point after their second touchdown but thirteen to nothing pretty impressive. Well, let me ask you heard of such a huge disparity in in scoring a soccer game. It's been a why not even close. Yeah. It was. All right. Still ahead. It's been more than a month since President Trump announced Patrick Shanahan, his pick for secretary of defense. But according to NBC news, the president may be rethinking that idea Carolee joins us with their new reporting. And we'll talk to someone with a bit of experience in the role Fulmer Defense Secretary ash Carter joins us next on morning Joe. Welcome back. President Trump, maybe second guessing his choice of Patrick Shanahan for secretary of defense, according to NBC news while enormity last week Trump as at least three people what they thought of Shanahan and whether they had any suggestions for different candidates. That's according to four people familiar with the conversations. Joining us now, national political reporter for NBC news. Carolee with Moore. Carrol. Good morning Meco. Well, we learned is that President Trump, never really wanted Patrick Shanahan as his first choice for this job. And he went back and forth about this for several months. Shanahan's been serving in acting capacity since January's, and James Mattis, left president was sort of, pushed into making a decision because people felt it was not a good idea to leave this open as an acting position weakened Shanahan. They couldn't do the job properly. So he announces on may ninth that he's chosen Shanahan, and yet a month or so later, he's asking people what do you think of Shanahan who else might I nominate or do you have any other ideas and looking for alternatives? And this is all happening at the same time as the White House has not sent up the nomination to the Senate, formerly. So it puts Shanahan and a really precarious position, you know, we've seen this before the president has gone back and forth, about aids where he's second guessing them and ask people what they think of him, and who. Else might be able to do the job. Certainly anyone who served as President Trump's chief of staff news with that feels like but because she had ahead hasn't wasn't the president's first choice. There's been a little public daylight between the two of them. She had a hint took a very different stance on the decision by the White House, or that request from the White House to the navy to obscure the US s McCain, while the president was in Japan, he called McCain, a patriot. That's obviously very different from how President Trump views late Senator, he also said that North Korea violated, UN Security Council, resolutions with its ballistic missile tests. That was a difference with the president. So, you know, the president seems to be second guessing casting about looking for alternatives. And the problem is no one really knows who that alternative is good. Lord. NBC's carolee. Thank you very much Willie. New York Secretary of defense under President Obama ash Carter. He's the author of the new book inside the five sided box lessons from a lifetime of leadership in the Pentagon. Mister secretary good morning. Good to see to be here. Thank you, a lot to talk to you about want to get to the book and just a moment. One ask you about President Trump and his approach to North Korea yesterday talking about a beautiful letter he received from Kim Jong Hoon? What do you suspect is up here? Why President Trump treating the dictator the murderous dictator Kim of North Korea with such flattery. Well, the only possible explanation, I can offer is he's hoping, we'll get progress on you do clears ation of the Korean peninsula. Remember something they promised president. I've been around this long President, George Bush won in nineteen ninety two so this isn't a new promise what we need is a plan that goes on the promise and what we haven't gotten yet as a plan that is actually underway. To get rid of their nuclear weapons. So that's his our president style of diplomacy right now. Everybody's happy, except us the North Koreans are happy because we're going to author back. China's kind of happy because we're not threatening war and South Korea, which happens to have an administration right now. Which is. Sort of a peace Nick kind of ministration that's politically convenient. But we don't have denuclearization yet, knowing what you know about North Korea knowing what you know about this regime. Do you think this approach works in some way because we haven't seen any evidence really that North Korea slowing down its approach to nuclear, well, I've been part of previous efforts, ninety ninety four ninety nine right into this movie, two thousand sixty thousand seven when Condie rice, and Colin Powell gave it a try. We, we didn't give it a try during the time out secretary defense because I didn't see any way to make it work out in the president didn't either. We've tried it in the past and made some little bit of progress. So I'm I'm for talking to them and pressing them on this as you using the leverage. We have an hammering China to get in the game and sticky with Japan which is a good ally and friend is threatened. But so far, the action has followed. What is really the drama of the two leaders meeting? Remember President Bush won all the president's after would not meet with the leader North Korea, unless they had a deal to sign their position was, I won't I'm going to give them the gift of a meeting with the president United States until less. I have deal. President Trump is taken, of course, opposite, the opposite of protect the underlying question to all this mister secretary is why would North Korea give up its nuclear program? It doesn't have much else on the world. It has leverage in any other areas, tickly economic leverage. Why would they give up their weapons? Well that back in the earlier times when you're talking to them, they didn't have them yet right now they've had the taste and in two thousand six when the as I said the Bush administration was talking when they exploded their first bomb. That's when they crossed the threshold, and now it's going to be hard to get in. We have some success in doing that. Remember Ukraine, Kazahkstan? Belarus, Iran that program during the nineteen ninety three countries that did give up nuclear weapons acids possible. But it's it'll be tough. It'll take a huge amount of pressure. And carrots, and sticks much larger than we've Marshall before to get him to make a move that big, what's, what's your view of our relationship today with China, given the fact that they that we drew from TPP, the Chinese, apparently think they own the South Pacific socialization, and we have a tower for ongoing seemingly escalating with each passing day. What you've you of that situation. I it, we have it's not a Cold War, but it is a sustained competition with what is after all the communist dictatorship? Now last time, we had a sustained competition with a gun mystic dealership was the Soviet Union. But we didn't trade with them. This is this is all we need a whole new playbook for this. So in the Weiwei thing in whether students should Chinese students should go back to China or not in the trade talks. We need a new playbook of which tariffs is one part. But I think only one part and I've watched the Chinese. Now, I've been dealing with them, and their military leaders since nineteen nineties, I knew Zhang's in June tau, and now sesion ping and over that time Mike. The tendency to of Chinese to be sort of overweening look to dominate Asia has taken over there earlier view, which is hey, this system, international system. Works pretty well for us, we get to be. We are run our country our way. And we get to trade with everybody and develop our, our country, and we all hope this view, would prevail, but it didn't. And so I did it may be was faded that way, I could always tell when I was talking the Chinese military that they were thinking this way, but they weren't allowed to say things that way. So it always existed it grew I do believe that we need to protect ourselves. And by that, I mean, when are the Chinese could bring to bear on an American company or American ally? That combination of military economic and political power that only a communist dictator. Ship can bring that creates an unlit level field, and I think companies expect our government, not to be necessarily confrontational but to be protective of them. So I think the things that we're doing to push back on the Chinese are necessary. And I think that's true militarily also were doing much more in the military. We started that some time ago doing more for their and so forth and south China's. We need to push back also. Mister secretary wanna talk about your book inside the five sided box and you call it. Are you publish your calls it in port users guy, to the military, industrial complex, of course, that phrase coming from Dwight Eisenhower's warning in his farewell speech to America in January of nineteen sixty one? You see often congress and the president United States supporting weapons systems that depend gone doesn't even ask for that. The Pentagon doesn't even want, but the military industrial complex does one, I saw Armed Services Committee, where there's always straight party line votes. But then, you know, another vote would come away saying their voting for Raytheon. Wait. Are they on the side of Laki more? So it was hard to follow it all you just knew there was a ton of money there. How do we break the grill of the military industrial complex and make it? So it is about running the leanest military organization that we can run without basically, throwing billions of dollars every defense contractor that writes, five thousand dollar checks for of congress where you write the book isn't a memoir, two different kind of book. It's guide to the Pentagon. Cluding how to buy weapons and I had that job. In addition to the deputy secretary Defense Secretary defense worked there and every layer. Over time and. Look, we don't build anything in the Pentagon. We don't do things the Soviet way. We buy all our weapons from private industry, and that means when I was the acquisition executive, I had to make business deals with the defense industry, and I was sitting on the tax payer and the war fighters side of the table. And they were sitting on their shareholders and employee's side table understood that it's not at it's just business. But I need to stick up for the taxpayer in the war fighter. And you need to be skilled negotiator with them. I need them to be healthy. I need them to do. Okay. On Wall Street, and so because I need a healthy defensive, by the way, I need a, the tech industry to participate more in defense because one of the reasons we have the best military in the world is we have the best technology in the world. And we, we, we can't get that anymore, just by working in the pen with with our own programs. We have to reach out to the tech sector and that was another. Big thing that I. Did. But we have good acquisition executives I had tough negotiations with industry. I had cordial relations with them, but they didn't push me around. I was the customer. And you mentioned congress congress gets involved every once in a while, but I'll give you an example of the tanker competition. There was huge congressional interest in that nevertheless. I was acquisition executive at the time, we ran a fair competition, that one party one and the other party didn't even try to protest because we hit we had clean, and so you can do it right people. See waste waste is inexcusable, particularly when we're asking for as much money as we are to protect the country, but it doesn't have to be that way. Good management. In deal with gold military industrial complex serve the tax payer in the war fighter. I felt that that was possible. And we have a lot of people know how to do that in the department of defense. And so one of the things of says, is don't have to be this, where here's some, here's some tricks, for how to manage the military industrial complex for the taxpayer in the warfighter Susan pages with us. And that's a question. Ashkar given your long experience at the Pentagon is there an impact on the way things work at the Pentagon when there is no, permanent confirmed, secretary leading and in particular drawing on the story that care, the NBC story that Kerley talked about just a few minutes ago when the president expresses maybe some cold feet about going forward with the nominee has announced to leave the Pentagon, does that have an impact on how things work there. Well, does your in a weaker position if you're not confirmed? I don't know patch, and Eoghan. Well, he's the first secretary of defense designate that I haven't known I worked for casper, Weinberger in the Reagan administration. So I've known known them all it does probably. We get into a little bit in Washington. The department of defense, however, is very orderly place thrives on order and clarity. And so, I think people looking upward at him and the department will regard him as their secretary of defense as long as he's the acting. Secretary defense, I think internally things are probably going to be okay. But in the larger Washington world doesn't help, Pat, if pets can end up being the secretary of defense to go through this period that I don't have any insight. I I'm not sure anybody does into whether he'll alternately get the job or not, as I said, I don't know, more personally gymnasts was an old friend of mine, and I were known each other for twenty five years. We used to sleep floor of a secretary defenses plane in nineteen Ninety-three when his flu around the world. So I've known Jim since major. The book is inside the five sided box lessons from a lifetime of leadership in the Pentagon. Former secretary ash Carter, thank you so much for being on the show this morning. 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