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Futbol Americas: Is the USMNT in the Gold Cup a "B-Team"?

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Futbol Americas: Is the USMNT in the Gold Cup a "B-Team"?

"In the mornings. Big thing america's with you here on espn plus her gomez heavy salazar her. Can you believe that this humble show is already influencing young minds across this great nation as we just saw that from our good buddy t would on instagram t would. I don't know what he was from. All i know is. His daughter is beautiful. He look as an amazing family. And thanks for watching my man absolutely very very good parenting there. We got lots of calm in today's football. America's john sutcliffe gonna join us. He was with the mexican national team as they played last night in national. We got a juicy transfer link gareth bale to an mls team that already has three designated players plus some big news on multiple fronts out of the national women's soccer league all that you can catch on football america's podcast which of course we now know is available wherever folks download their podcasts. Under the espn fcc feet but before we get to all of that. Let's start with the big news at hand today. The us men's national team dropping twenty three man roster for the upcoming gold cup. This trimmed down from fifty nine players by gregg berhalter disease. Twenty-three some big names missing. Obviously right no pulisic no mckennie. No death no rain of the the big names in europe going to be with their clubs during the preseason nineteen of the twenty three on this list play an mls the four exceptions reggie cannon shack more matthew hoppy and nicholas joe akini now. I'm seeing some people online that are saying this is a b team may be worse. What are you calling gregg. Berhalter gold cup roster. It's about a c team. But let's not act surprised if you've been watching this program. If you're watching football america's one of the better part of over a month now. You knew this was going to happen. You knew it was going to be a possibility when i say. C team is because there are some b type players and i only mean that because they're not plying their trades in the barcelona's the chelsea's the dorms of the world. They're not starting for the national team. That aren't in this gold cup. And i'm talking about players like cameron carter vickers. Matt me is eric palmer. Brown johnny gotta so. Who's in brazil. Brian reynolds who's at roma etc etc. They're not here either. Those aren't sure day in and day. Out starters for the national team so that would be your be squat. This is more a c team. Nineteen of these players play in major league soccer. That's not a knock on them. That's just tells us where there today. It's still a very young squad as you can see and listen. This is still a team that say what you will has the makeup and the roster to go far in this tournament. Yeah it's real young. Look that nine players twenty three or under you see. There's a real lack of cats a real lack of experience in this team. The one thing. I think we have to point out here in terms of why the big boys aren't here. You look at the schedule this turn it wraps on august first the premier league the bundesliga though season start her on august thirteenth. So if you're a player and you're to be with this team you would be missing. Significant parts of eric important preseason. I don't think though this gives us less reasons to watch. I think there's a real sense of urgency for guys if we are going to call this a bt mercy team then spots eighteen to twenty three when it comes to those world cup qualifiers. You're looking at names like roll down the jet a cost a cannon guys who you know are probably going to get called up. But what's their role here they're going to have to dominate here. They're going to have to lay claim to one of those final spots on the roster. The other thing that i think is interesting when we start calling this team is it does throw a little shade. Probably deservedly so with the gold cup itself. I remember tournaments. Two thousand thirteen two thousand seventeen mexico's involved in the confederations cup. And when mexico would send a team it really took some of the star power really took some of the meaning out of this tournament. I don't know that the us men's national team is disrespecting the gold cup but by not sending the eighteen. They're certainly making it less important. That's a topic of conversation in the circles of mexican press today. Why is the united states. Men's national team sending this second rate team in there is. Why aren't they forced to sunday. First rate team in eighteen like the mexican nash teams of the past. You mentioned you mentioned what was copa america. All these different tournaments where they had to send their b squad to play and what was the fallout gold cup. Well that's not the case here. I will argue back then. You had something to play for. You had half a ticket to was the confed cup. You don't have that anymore. So essentially you put up with this tournament out of thin air and you say it's to increase relevancy in zone for these smaller countries to help these neighboring countries with his the cap nations league you have that tournament. The eighteen plays in that they actually went for the us. Men's national team and now greg has a choice. What do i do with this congestive calendar. Where do with these players who are still trying to win themselves. They position in europe athar club teams in my eyes. He made the correct sison. Yeah look the gold. Cup has a lot to compete with european championships. Go by medica. Now we throw in the nation's league and it makes it a tougher and tougher event to get excited about still though her lots to play for here. Let's talk about the players who may have the most to gain in this twenty three man group for gregg berhalter. Who you going with daryl. Biki is there anybody else. Listen he just turned. Twenty one years of age most fans are over. any chance at josie alternate coming back into the fold. I get it. But there hasn't been a nine to stake claim to that position since josie. Altidore daryl deka got everybody excited for his play in the english championship for what he did every goal. He scored well. That didn't work out. You came back to orlando and guess what he's back to scoring goals. Darryl diga has the most to gain at any player on this roster darrow. Diga can stay claim that number nine position gold cup. He's got a very good chance with josh sergeant. Not playing that well with other players being in the mix but not really stake in their claim of being the legit number nine for the us. Men's national team with the team. Yeah the way. The striker position is really her pretty much. Anybody who's called in as a number nine or even as a half number nine in this situation has a lot to game. You could probably add matthew hoppy to that list. Who's also looking for transfer so big showcase opportunity for him nicklaus. Gioacchini fits that as well for me. Another player that fits that category but doesn't have time on his side like everybody else else's jesse's artists for me jesse's aren't it has the most to gain from this gold cup and i'll tell you why he's twenty nine years old this team. This program is desperate. Desperate hurt for the position that he plays and the guy. That's making the decision on that. Position is his former club coach. If not now for jesse's artists when her yeah and you know you know fans are not going to cut them slack if gets minutes in world cup qualifiers and isn't scoring. It has to happen now. So he's got a beat out for me. Matthew hoppy joe. Akini daryl vk in this tournament. He's gotta keep that spot throughout this tournament and he's got to deliver otherwise for me. I think this is the last chance saloon for artists with the national team. You think i'm far off there. I don't think you're far off at all. Let's be honest. There are a few players. Have the stigma of whether it is major league. Soccer or being part of greg berhalter's group in the past. That fans can't get past that and he is one of them. Jesse started as one of them. This isn't a dp and major league soccer. He's earned the right for his call ups but fans won't forgive the sense that is major league soccer to them and it is gregg berhalter beena system player for gregg berhalter in the past so that is something that just started us to play against and yeah. I think you're right here. So it is one of the players. They got called in josie altidore. Who you've already mentioned one of thirty six players who were cut from this team ahead of the gold cup at his age when we think about all that he brings to the table and then we see the number ninety gregg berhalter at the end of the day does call in. Do you think this team is going to miss josie at this tournament. They miss josie out. And i know people hate hate thinking of josie alda door and the likes of michael bradley coming back and i'm not. I'm not arguing about that. I'm just telling you. They've not had a nine. Like josie outdoor ed this current crop of players for as much promises they have. They don't have that value. Listen i went back. And i checked my notes because i recall the two thousand nineteen gocha final against the us. Men's national artists mexican. Sorry with josie altidore. Look at this minute five. Josie ultra body defenders sitting christian pulisic brave one v one against should it. Put it away minute seven. Okay another josie outdoor plates. Tim ream clearing the ball. Josie bringing it down and it cutting up more in the buck should have put it away. This is minute seven okay. This is the goal he should have had. So that's two right. Now minute thirty josie out attracting players in his paw getting an across this. They're all attended josie. Now it's just a player that creates things. His size is physical skill. Set the way. He carries himself with the ball. How dangerous it could be. I went back and check my notes in this game. I take notes. I should've been four one. Us men's national team by the fifty. Second minute there was a jordan morris. Header cleared off the line by one dollars a chance that should have been put in josie. Ultra was a huge part of that when he comes up minutes. Sixty four the us. Men's national team energy levels. They tanked they no longer can retain the ball. He's so good with his back to go. He's so good at retaining interlinking and bringing players in a skill set. We've not seen from another. Us men's national team number nine with the goal. And say what you want. Well he missed. Go right there. He still behind only landon donovan and clint dempsey in the all time scoring charts the us men's nationally and he's thirty one years of age. I know what you guys are going to say. And i'm by. I'm with you but if these young players aren't stepping up they're gonna miss them you know. It was a great performance. The one you just highlighted in your second role as josie alter doors agent. The only problem was that was his last game with the us men's national team and it's almost two years ago. He hasn't played for toronto. See since late. May i think it was a twenty second of may. Was his last game so hurt. When i start thinking about josie. We thought that the gold cup might be an opportunity for him to use the international stage to boost his club stock. Clearly his resume is not going to get him another. Call up with the. Us men's national team. He's going to have to use club. Not just find a club but lockdown a starting spot at that club and then keep scoring at that club to even get back into the conversation. Yeah for this national team at thirty one years old with the money. He's on tse. That seems very very if not unlikely just difficult. I think we have to ask the question. Now we've danced around it on this show. But is this. Officially the end of josie altidore. Because this is an mls focused. Roster this is what you just said was a b. or c. josie outdoor at. This point isn't good enough for a beer. C team is okay for him. Do you think it's not good enough. That gregg berhalter couldn't realistically put him on the team without having an actual club. I think josie outdoors resume. If gregg berhalter wanted to bring him he could have. I think it's enough to bring him and gregg berhalter decision clearly clearly. That's not how we feel. So josie done with the national team. I don't think jones with the national team. And that's because of the reason we just stated these number nine sworn staking claim to this position now if there was a nine who is banging in goals left and right or two. He's done but there isn't right now. There hasn't been a nine state claim to that. So as long as josie authors thirty one years of age is still in this picture and they're scoring goals. You're gonna keep hearing from altered or one of those. As i mentioned thirty six players cut from this list of fifty nine the preliminary list another one. Her yon arauco young right back for the la galaxy nineteen years old. Let's listen in as gregg. Berhalter explains the decision in terms of julian. It's it's a case of him being a national and not fully ready to commit to the team and he know that the goal coupled lock him in permanently and he you know he wasn't ready to make that step. I don't want to speak for him. But i can imagine. When he looks at the depth of the right back position he sees a logjam there and he maybe fully see his pathway to being a starter in the next world cup. What i can tell you. Is we really value. Julie and everything is an outstanding player and we think he can make a run it of being start on this and a lot of it's going to be up to form in his development but he's a young player young talented player and we think that you know he does have a future with this team but for the gulf cup is not going to be taking taking part interesting comments there her from gregg. Berhalter what do you make of it. I think it makes sense. Greg touched upon the competition just really quickly to compete with. Sergio desk plays at barcelona. He's gonna compete with players. Like reggie cannon boavista. Brian reynolds rome of deandre yellen who plays in turkey. You know justin jay. Who's going to be potentially in europe soon. The pathway to first team minutes with the national team is much more difficult than if you're gonna compete with hokusai sanchez in mexico or checkout or he negus. Where probably is two biggest threats. I will tell you this. I made some phone calls the moment that they've heard that he pulled out that he's not ready that he's still contemplating because he's getting the full full court press from what is certain people in the gutsy system and i'm talking about copy editor john. There's john santos rain is already committed. I'm talking about dennis. The close who's probably the best thing that's ever happened to the federation mexican federation you know as far as scouting in the united states is him being with the galaxy. He's got that full court. Press going on the mexican federation is already started paperwork for a one time. Switch for that alco. They are fully expecting him to commit to the one time switch and to be in a mexican uniform. That is all about him. He's spoken to many times. It's up to hooghly on right now. That's all there waiting for is the green light but him pulling himself out of what is a gold cup with that he would essentially been on is a clear indicator that he's seriously taken consideration being part of the mexican national team. Yeah herk here that right now here gregg berhalter say he has a future with the us. Men's national team at this point if you're out alcohol or if you're from the us soccer side and you're saying we gave this guy a chance. We may have had a spot for him. Here in gold cup wasn't ready to commit. That's the end of alcohol with the us. Men's national team right. I it surely. Sounds like i mean greg was very very clear and listen if all things are equal your love and respect for country your ties and all that other thing everything that comes with being patriots all that is equal while the sporting site comes into play and it just seems like simple math. Simple numbers you are going to compete with players who are playing in europe and in some cases younger players as opposed to older players who play domestically that there are only two of that you could potentially think you can overtake so among the competitors there at that right back spot that you mentioned earlier in the segment. Brian reynolds now. He is not in the. Us gold cup squad and a grand gregg. Berhalter had a very interesting explanation as to why. No other guys like brian reynolds. He's going to you know. He has a new coach in in jose marino and we felt if he misses. All the preseason were marino. We know the track record of radio. Likings play older older players. This was set him back to be able to make an impact with us in the future. Herk right choice by gregg berhalter. Yeah absolutely no lies detected. Except it's josie marino but he's absolutely right. Yeah i mean you can't give this guy the opportunity to be at roma want him to have a good preseason. But i'm impressed by berhalter looking at the gold cup and obviously prioritizing it he says at least in the quotes that he wants to win but clearly here. He's putting brian reynolds career ahead of the good in the short term of the national. Yeah but let's be honest. He has the benefit of the doubt of just defeating mexico in the ca- caf- nations league. So he's got a little bit of credit. There's no need to win the gold cup. All right it's a b team. But we've asked you to put together a team of the b. team so your best eleven from the twenty three players that gregg berhalter has chosen for this tournament. Her what have you put together for us. I know you're gonna you're gonna three at the back in two up top all right. Walk us through all right. So this is a three-man back line. Three centrebacks you've got sands you got walkers zimmerman got miles. Robinson matt turner. Who's a great shots supper. I'm going to give him the right. I'm going with the youth. Because i know what this tournament is. And what it means and what you can win potentially get out of it and right now. This is experienced or looking for players. So let's play these players. So matt turner gets the nod at the back. You got a baby on the left about and then on the right you're going to have reggie cannon. These are two guys. Go up and down. Now i know gregg berhalter is not gonna play this way. I'm gonna play through. The back is probably gonna play a four three three with wingers and you already mentioned hoppy is going to be a winger and other players may be wingers and your starters are probably going to be justice artists and what is darrel deka. But i'm gonna go different. I'm gonna go williamson eric williams dickerson roll down and gianluca puccio in the middle. Those three that trident. I think there's a lot of good quality players in the midfield. But i like these three. I want to go and see these two ended up top. Daryl decaying give me matthew hopped up. I want to see a big man like it can do against kakai opposition and i want to see the opportunity and matthew copy take that opportunity. Increase that price. Tag send himself somewhere. Book your tickets. Through different clubs do not playing. And bundesliga. To williamson boosts your. I love those choices in the middle of the park. I think that could be super exciting. What are the expectations her for this team. Obviously we're about to talk about mexico. We know when you talk. Us in mexico at the gold cup the expectation is to be the final but does that change at all given the fact that this is not the a team for gregg berhalter. No no and it doesn't change that. I don't believe it's the beat. You believes the c team. This tournament is designed by concacaf so mexico and the us men's national team meet in the final. That said you're playing at home. You've got a very competitive team. I don't care if it's nineteen major league soccer players. You should be able to get yourself to semis and compete to be in the final. So my objective for this team is the final. Do i demand that they wouldn't know mexico's got a very good team. We'll talk about them in a second but this team should be striving for what is the final. Let's transition to mexico and talk about the expectations for martinez team which is also announced on wednesday. And this one. They did not leave the stars out at least not many of the stars. Shuki dick dr herrera. It's an odd that some of the european big names that are in as well as hell as maury which means Not charito he was on the preliminary roster herk. I'm guessing that the expectations the obligations for mexico much different than the expectations. You just placed on the us. Absolutely the expectations is and it would still be this way of christian. Pulisic western mckinney virginia destined company. If the full eighteen was here the expectation for mexico would be to win and to win at all costs because that is the mentality because that is the culture a whole country is paralysed on a mexican national team. Game day this is why we see some pain millions for the mexican national team to divide their national team in play in two different places about forty eight to seventy two hours time because they sell because that is the expectation of mexico regardless of its in mexico or in the united states. They have to win. Yeah let's not ignore what just happened in the nation's league right if mexico wins the nation's league i think this obligation all that talk is totally different the failure in the nation. So you can. Let's call it what it is and what it was labeled in mexico the failure to win the nation's league is hanging heavy right now over martina and even if it's a b team for the us even if it's not a full eighteen for mexico. I think the pressure very much there on dot com all right to get some real perspective from somebody who's been with the mexican national team throughout the last month was with them last night in national as they took on panama. We walk into the show. None other than john sutcliffe. All right john. Let's start with the topic we were just talking about. It's gone out. Is mexico obligated in your opinion to win the gold cup. No question and you're right that loss in denver mint extra pressure look out of dino hasn't won a this summer because last night gets was the olympic team from jimmy lozano. So there's no question that if top amount of tina wants to have it easy go into world cup qualifying they have to win the gold cup and they wanna play the united states but i remember covering that game in denver and i talked to martina and he knew that was the game of game. I got her own. That got on. The big game was against the us in denver colorado. Now that they didn't get the win at least there have to try and get a runner-up win on august. I into perspective the money that's involved in the final of the gold cup. Tickets went on sale and were sold out in ninety minutes. I found that last night the cheapest suite on a corner for the finalist twenty five thousand dollars and gomez just about two of them for forty days in the middle of the field air. Who's gonna box september eighteen. That stadium nello cannelloni candidate. Who's going to who's going to be just win. Baby i had to put that in for you vega. He's right though set when we look the two national team managers. And who's under pressure is dino in it you could say it's the final the concacaf nations league final loss. You could say it's hurdle halio phone. Is maureen eat though you could say his players selection you could say it's what they've not done as far as not getting the results that potentially should have gone the way that they've under. Well the certain argument is not being available. But certainly it's not the montesinos under the most pressure. John what about chitchat. We've talked a lot about you. Go here on the show. You've reported that If he did get a call up he wouldn't accept it now. We know that you didn't get the call up for this gold. Why wouldn't they accept the call if he did get it because when you hear him talk he seems like a guy who is not put the national team in his rear view mir like he still wants anything. There has to be a little legal and all of this. He doesn't want to be the last one in the pecking order. Look i'll be very honest. what i know. Dot com tino talked to him in september of twenty nine thousand nine hundred when there were some issues about discipline that happened in jersey in san antonio and he said caveat we respected you. You were going to be a dad. You didn't come for this goal cup. Then you come and created this mess that that one caveat it to do a public apology he was never gonna do it obviously for personal reasons so that they it's been a series of events. It's very sad. I've covered the national team for a long time. And the fact that. She charlie to the all timeline. Score you really. I really know. He's not wanted on the team from some of the players in tingle doesn't want it so it's really sad because you're talking about well. He considers himself a legend. But he's out they don't want him in the fact that we came in got hurt. That's why he came into the picture. But yes i was told earlier in the week here in la that if she was going to be called last minute for this summer's gold cup he would have said no obviously they probably make a phone call before they do anything publicly and then he denies it but when she he says that i don't need to call anybody i don't need to say anything. It has to do what i found out this week. That said we need a public apology. He never gave it in. That doesn't charge you know. Don't confuse activity with accomplishment. He'd better win this gold cup because he can do whatever he wants. The owner of the mexican team right now is that except when they're talking about money like what happened in nashville last. I hate thought that we need to fly. You gotta give some credibility to the olympic game. We got a contract with some for making lot of money and we don't want it to be mad. So hey bring your dr morano. Just sit on the bench. Don't worry jimmy's is going to work in. That was very embarrassing to be on the flu. Dot the martino to just sit there on the bench and watch somebody else. Be the manager of the team. Yeah i agree to a contract with some. It was in the contract. But let's let me just for a second. Try to try to gather my thoughts on. What's going on. Because i i can't imagine that that would would say behind closed doors. I need a public apology. And then not get it and just let this keep festering non and let all these rumors happen and make yourself look bad instead of just saying to the press. He needs to apologize to me to his teammates for what happened. He's never said that he's never been transparent. And then to caveat non his in his mind thinking to himself. There's a possibility that i will menace comes back. And he's healthy and he's full-throttle any scoring goals again come next premier league season. That's out of my control. There's a possibility. Dean goes to the olympics and he crushes it the same way that lebron wins gold and he scoring goals. There's a possibility that believe or pool is maury in this gulf cup crushed you and they're scoring goals and it's out of sight out of mind and i'm way down. The pecking order right now. Caveat scoring goals. He's never once said he wanted to retire. Or you just want to be with the national teams to me as you can imagine john. I have a hard time believing caveat. That would let it go this far. You know. he's very healthy. He's never had really ankle or or knee injuries. I think she took him play two three years at a high level. But the reality is he's not considered by by mattino. The moment commend got hurt. That's one funez. Motor came into the equation. I'll give you an example. This week there was a cheap cherry to answer but not a question to martino when he said hey years. He has an ankle problem but he'll be ready one hundred percent. We consider him for the gold cup. So that's the way he saying. Dream that you took questions like saying my nine czar when his monte alum pollino in he doesn't want to try to. Obviously you never know what could happen is coming back is going to be okay. If he's going to be injured he has to give himself that option thinking of the world cup but not this year. That's why. I say it's very sad that the all time leading scorer the mexican national team is not welcome in in his own country's national team and it's not just what happened in discipline in september. Twenty nine thousand nine hundred. It's been a process of things you know. He got mad at him. In image in premiums would play the player so there was a lot of things that went on. It's very sad to be honest john. You're in nashville. Last night as we mentioned for mexico against panama. Basically mexico's u twenty. Three's that team obviously still played in front of a huge group of mexican fans. We saw them ocho pre-game giving the announcement about the homophobic slur. That we've heard time and time again. Obviously this is something that the federation john in the last really month has started to take very very seriously with what they're saying outwardly. What they're doing. I wonder what you make what the federation is saying about their latest efforts and actually national last night. Did you hear any of the homophobic channel. No you know what. I'm very happy. How the mexican federation the president. John lewis has worked on it. Not just not last night. It was a couple of weeks ago. I was in atlanta. When mexico played on us there wasn't any chance. I think they're communicating the talk about respect. I would say the word is respect. Obviously saturday in la. It's a different animal. It's going to be full stadium. La fans are a little bit like mexico. City stick fans will see what happens. There's no question that mexico's worried because fi fi has send the message you know. Sooner or later something's going to happen and a better be sooner than later because might hurt more later than sooner. You know what is disappointing i. I'm glad that math and that players like memo or cho- have taken into their own hands and sent out these messages. But call it for what it is. It's a homophobic chant. It's discriminatory say it's about respect. Listen respect is when. I'm a younger kid calling sir and ma'am to my elders. Respect is taking off my shoes. When i walk into my mother's house. Respect is not wearing a hat. When i'm at the dinner table this is homophobia this is discriminatory actions. What it is and. I wish they would do that. But at least you might consider as their baby steps but at least they're taking steps at least they're trying. I know that on saturday at the stadium. There's going to be new messages. I can tell you that guillaume ocho art and there is one thousand chunky lozano recorded a great message for one of the sponsors. And you're going to be surprised what the words come out. So i think those baby steps are advancing in. I agree with you got to call it. How it is and you have to address it. And i think there finally address it because remember also something is very important. The mexican team needs a lot of money and mexico wants to be part of that world cup and twenty twenty six absolutely in those first couple home world cup qualifiers without fans as a result of all of this i johnson cliff. We gotta let you go. Thanks so much for the time you're going to be with mexico the rest of the summer. I'm sure we'll have you back soon. Here on football america's anytime guys. There he goes. John sutcliffe pre friend of the program. All right let's get the highlights from last night's game. John was of course Here in nashville mexico winning three nothing cruising easily over panama. The airline linus this henry martyn your goal scores. Herk obviously as we mentioned before this was like you. Twenty three plus a little bit with dr dena looking over Jaime lozano shoulder the big takeaway for me go line. Of course wearing that number ten we've seen bright performances from him both with club but really with the national team over the last month or so. He finally ready to from prospect to players. You ready for that number ten shirt for mexico. I mean who else has been ready for it in the past. You know in recent years little puppy. Sarah's warning i mean you have to go back to house to really think about a true number ten think about the number ten for mexico and is right now. Diego lane is who has had three very good gains with the mexican national team where he's been pry the brightest star but at the club level and. Let me read this day. Since elena says last scored and you can find that at atlanta's goal on twitter nine hundred eighty three. You're a troll. No control no. I'm giving you stats and this is a very good player. He's a very good one. Be one flare. You can be vertical with for you and it. Can you very dangerous. But you're handing ten shirt already. It seems so easy today for a player to get that type of or that type of shirt in mexico because there aren't players by default because the pipeline is stalled. Because what you're seeing right now out of a twenty seven year old who's not even being called up. Because he went to enter miami and it's been a train wreck because he can't get himself to europe etc etc etc. It's almost by default. He's had a very good last three games. But what were the last two years like. Let's not forget about that. So it's a big responsibility when you wear the ten for your country specially ten for mexico. Some very good players have worn that jersey. Yup i'm waiting. I'm waiting. I would love to say that. He's ready hurt. But i think the the valuable thing that you point out is the club record write. He hasn't really broken through route. Betty's we said it before on this show. The next season for him is going to be huge. Just turned twenty one. Yeah it's one thing when you're seventeen or eighteen at that point you're still a prospect at some point you go pass prospect and if you're not delivering you become bust. He's not there yet with mexico. He's not there yet with beth these before. He really truly grabs the ten shirt for mexico. I think we got to see it at least a little bit more with betty. So i'm not saying he's going to be a playmaker of the year in league with betty's but he's got to be a lockdown starter there before he can be mexico's number two pellegrini's confidence he didn't have the first two coaches. That's the truth. it was the second is sticky. And he didn't have at all he's finally got that confidence he's finding plane had a good string run a games i should say and then covert hit and it took them a while to get back and then he wasn't the same player when he got back the opportunity was already flying without him so he needs to now take the bull by the horns and be that player a productive player because when you play in that position i don't wanna hear. He's not a goal score. He's not a nine. That's not his position. Its goals and assist is productivity. It's when i have the ball. What can i create. So if i'm not putting on the back of the net somebody else on my team is. That's who diego linus needs to realize he can be if he wants to wear that number ten shirt because i think the number ten shirt for mexico and i think what will go. I think big players bid time players for the national team. I guess the one concern with him going to the olympics is again. If we're going to say that this is a huge year for him at betty's could probably use a full preseason right so being off at the olympics as big of a showcase as that is he's not really looking for a move right now i would love for him to be solidifying. That starting spot alright elsewhere in kaka calf news and actually elsewhere. Whoever can dual national news hockey nola who debuted for the us back in december. Forget against outside of other he actually scored in the game has switched his affiliation from the us to canada fee. For clearing the switch. He was born in the united states. But it's really live. Most of his life in canada. He put debut for them as early as the gold cup her. How big of a loss is this for the us. Men's national team talent pool. I had them in my top five. I had a yorkie nowhere at mytalk. Nine so yeah. It's a loss because the pipeline as far as the nines goes for the. Us men's nasty is very thin. We spoke about no nine taken that up that opportunity and making it his own. Now listen jonathan. David is probably his the biggest performer. In what is a strike position for for canada but cappellini zor lucas cappellini era and he fancies his skill. Set which is like into governor leans and evenings. He could wedges way in there and be an impact player for canada. More power to them when it comes to being a dual national love you could feel for two countries when all things are equal become sporting and he feels. His chances are better with canada. Canola is a very interesting prospect. The skill set that he has not too many have. You can't be that strong. You can't be that opportunistic with in front of goal that good with your back to go. But you're still being molded into a player. I speak to players in that toronto system. And they tell me about the roskill said that he has now he's still grooming himself. How much further. He has to go and that is scary. When you think about how much better you can be. I'm not convinced that big loss. I get the desperation at the number nine. He had a great twenty twenty other than that. It's kind of like spot goals here. And there i think he's got to is rosy so he's not he's he's not pulling up trees right now. In major league soccer the other thing worth noting though is we give group gregg berhalter a lot of credit for all the dual nationals. He wins How about herdman. John herdman the manager for canada. Who actually used to manage the women's national team. He said they've been working on for eighteen months. So this is a player that not only they idead. They put a lot of work into and now he could help them in the gold. Don't be surprised if he gets another one if he gets another toronto player to switch. Don't be surprised if there are more dual nationals going canada's way meanwhile when it comes to the european championships we are down to the last eight. Well i was looking to make them folks money who is to get the golden boot erique. My brand noman england's gotta go deeper him doing overall to win. Gotta go with belgium if it's my money if it's your money i need a flyer wrong croatia. They're being plus they were in the world cup final three years ago. This is a team totally capable of making a deep run in a tournament at plus four thousand. Yes sir i will definitely take five. Teens started qualifying. We made it to twenty four for the beginning of the tournament and now down to the last eight at euro twenty twenty you just heard our pretournament picks their some of us still have our pretournament to a live in well. Others may need a little bit of editing. so why don't we give her. And maybe me. If i wanted a second chance at our picks okay so favored win the golden boot. I'm not sure if you heard it there in the sound bite. I went with lukaku. Pretournament her duet with harry kane. Right only has one goal you sticking with that or moving I'm going to move it. I'm gonna go raheem sterling. My already got three goals. Listen he goes from nuts going one single tournament goal to all of a sudden three at the euro's and you said it yourself if harry caine was into be golden boop england would have to go far. I think england can't go far. The guy ukraine next available very favorable side of the bracket raheem sterling is in a great moment. I grocery is playing off the charts. Assist everywhere. I think raheem sterling can seriously bagging another couple of goals. And it's is all right. He's got three. You're definitely disrespecting denmark. Definitely disrespecting czech republic on that same side of the bracket. Okay unlike you. I'm offering the fans at home here. Some consistency i went with lukaku pretournament. And i'm sticking with them here. He six to one to end up as the golden buddha euro twenty twenty. He's already got three goals for me. Hurt this all comes down to the game against italy which is just a massive massive quarterfinal momentous scored sixty four goals in syria and and across all competitions for inter milan in the last two years. I think he's going to be okay against italy's defense. I put all my chips into the lukaku. Vote for now. So i'm taking nuku my as my top score you're going out on a limb lucado. Top top-scorer is one of the best in the world. He will wreck any defense out there. But my forgetting who is kevin broin and is it has are they not playing are they. Are they in doubt for probably the biggest game of their lives. Yeah okay to that end. Here's a look at the Updated favorites to win the european championships. My pre-tournament pick belgium. Who was your circa. I'm not seeing them over in france. That don't don't come at me like i had this crazy idea. That france is going to win it and it was come on won't stick with belgium herk and it's pretty easy. Just they've done the most so far. They beat denmark in denmark. They beat russia in russia. They knocked out the defending champions in the round of sixteen. And i'm not buying italy not yet anyway. Italy especially coming off that game against austrian man. They just didn't do it for me group as very favorable to them. Who are you going with See we we don't agree here. May tiny. I'm with the college my friend italy. You spoke about the defensive efforts at one must do to keep lukaku up the scores. Okay thirty straight games. That they've not lost their last game. That they lost was in two thousand eighteen against france. This guy is italian team. The last twenty games twenty matches they've only let in five goals said i'm going with italy to shut out. I shouldn't say shut out to beat luke taco and belgium. I just explained. No kevin o'brien. It's going to be huge also hazard in doubt those two in doubt. That's going to be big for this belgian team. Who's up there in age. This italy team is very young. They're very dynamic. I could see them causing belgium. Lots of problems in transition. i will stay with donna. Okay are you mentioned in hazard and kevin broin not out doubts right now potentially potentially out for the game against italy. We didn't pick this free tournament. But how about a paper. Not for golden boot. But for golden ball for best player of the european championships. Her going with man. I'm so tempted it's been he's been so good for italy. But listen raheem sterling the scoring goals to great story. At the whole. It's coming home. They can go far. If he's the golden boot. Which i said he will be now and they go far as far as you say a final. Even if they don't win it it's gotta be rock game sterling so i think this is a no brainer for me. I like it i like it. You're doubling down and it's true right. If england wins the tournament their top score is going to be most likely the gold involved terminate it. You would find that very difficult to believe. I like wahine sterling here. I think he's a pretty good value to at six to one. But i'm sticking with my doubling down tripling down all chips to the middle of the table on the belgian national team and ramalu lukaku looking my man josh so good doing it and i think he is going to on her player of the tournament. Tell me i'm wrong. Listen to show. Because he's one of the best players in the world right now all right so the quarterfinals then getting underway on friday action starts with spain against switzerland. That's your noon. Eastern time kickoff then. We got belgium against italy for a spot in the semifinals action underway. Friday another double header for you on saturday. All right speaking of the european championships gareth bale and wales exiting in the round of sixteen and now vale has been linked with all teams the los angeles galaxy hurt. He's gonna turn thirty two in july still under contract at real madrid but reportedly not in carlisle july plans. Yes the la galaxy have three designated players. Okay okay okay. But assuming that they can sort that out and bring in gareth. Bale good move or bad mood ready that the dp player situation wasn't an issue. Let's go into miami on this. Let's assume that the six hundred thousand pounds. A week wasn't an issue that he makes for the galaxy. Would this be a good move or a bad move for the galaxy. Is that your question. Yup great lou for the galaxy. This is a player with a lot left in the tank and he proved that last season sixteen goals across all competitions at a very high level which throughout his career has have massive massive sporting moments massive moments on the field for club and country. What he did at automative great moments. He gave that man based taking wells to what was a semi-final appearance in last euro tournament. To what he can still do today what he showed us. What josie modine. Yo as a head coach. He's got plenty left in the tank. That's a great move if you can make it happen for the la galaxy. Put if you're gareth bale. Is this the move you at thirty two years of age you going to major league soccer going to the galaxy is pretty much saying. I'm no longer going to play with wells because that transatlantic flight every call up is going to be a killer those fifteen plus hours thirteen plus hours. Whatever it may be to get to every single game whether it's exhibition or was an actual world cup qualifier are going to be insane for you. What you're saying is done with the nationally. What you're saying is i went from around the spurs and even though i proved to myself and the rest of the world that i still have something the tank. I want to go elsewhere. I no longer want to play at that level. I don't know if it's the best decision for gareth bill. I don't agree that it necessarily means he's done with the national team. We see players all the time who get preferential treatment. A guy like maybe kato to novice who just chooses pick and choose which saves. it's not the same. He said he'd never goes as a goal cup. And how long taylor goes to the must win world cup qualifiers and even then he's accepting that there might be a chance that he will there will be no chance. He loses his club situation. But it's not the same. I don't think kayla was being a goalkeeper is the same equivalent to gareth bell and his situation of going back and forth with set national team. Look i guarantee you wales. We'll make an exception for gareth. Bale if they need them either for a world cup qualifier european qualifier. Whatever it may be. I like the point that you bring up about hint still having a lot left in the tank because i think there were a lot of questions about that and you would probably rightfully question. What's his motivation. Going to be like in major league soccer because maybe we didn't see the most of it at real madrid especially under sedan where there seemed to be kind of a break in communication and really a poor relationship. He wouldn't have that with the la galaxy he would be beloved. It would be a great fit and even if you saw how we played with wales. He wasn't necessarily the guy waiting for the service he was creating. So i start to think about him playing with the galaxy and she ito that duo to me could be super dangerous. Do you think if they signed gareth. Bale the la galaxy then become your favorites or is that not enough. No no no goals storing goes hasn't been the problem for the galaxy in the last four years. They've scored plenty of goals. Their slapped on or demand is we're having help or no help. Goals being scored aren't an issue for the galaxy. It's keeping the ball out of their own net. That's been the issue of the last four years. They need other things to worry about. Not gareth bell and what you can do it. And i know nobody cares. Put if you sign a player gareth right now. What you're saying is we didn't plan right with our roster and governor and grand sear in india the type of player that we invested in that we has play making ability abilities out of the wing. Take a back seat because we're in a must win situation right now. We want gareth ball right now. So forget about this investment. We're going here and if you thought gareth bell was wells. Golf madrid twenty played around madrid. Just wait until you see what he's like with the ele- galaxy well look. I think we're assuming a lot there. We should be careful about his motivation clearly. A player with a lot of talent. And i would. I would love to see it. I'm not gonna lie to you so. La galaxy have always have always had this ability to make the signing that. No one else in mls can make and would be that. This would be that. I would also tread with caution when you see this because gareth bell and his agent are looking for a club anytime you're looking for leverage comes major league soccer all right so let's keep it on the west coast but will switch leagues and we'll go up the coast a little bit to the national women's soccer league portland thorns where olivia mull tree signs. A three year contract with the thorn. She's now youngest player. Ever to sign with an end of esl team at just fifteen. She had fought an antitrust lawsuit against the end of your cell over the age restrictions. That were keeping her out but the league is finally relented her. I guess good news here for all. I really don't see any losers in this even if the league didn't exactly get what they had originally set out for. I can't believe the league would be against this. This is great for you on a pr standpoint. From what is more attractive more eyeballs to said league from player development. It's a win win. I don't understand why it took so long. I was going to say if olivia was a man. But she's fifteen so if she were a boy we wouldn't be having this discussion. There would be no. She's not ready discussion for this. If you're good enough to play you're on the team. Yeah i think there was an issue with the league. Wanting to make sure that the age restriction was fargan four as part of the collective bargaining process. Which is actually ongoing right. Now but olivia's antitrust lawsuit obviously kind of pushed them forward. And i think this happened sooner as a result herk. I think it's great. I think it's just another sign of the growth of women's soccer that we have a player. Who club is willing to invest in at such a young age. She's been part of the portland thorns since she was thirteen. This is a player who was. Id very early on somebody who is not just a good player but who had professional potential as a teenager and we've not seen a ton of that in the women's game before certainly not here in the united states. I think it's super exciting. The obvious comparison here her. And i always hesitate to make comparisons between women's soccer and men's soccer but just from an american soccer standpoint has to be freddie ado right you look at the ages. She's fifteen. He was fourteen when he signed with major league. Soccer and dc. United obviously a player in a different world a different time in american soccer but to me the comparisons here are obvious. It's a no brainer. When you talk about comparison seeming she signed with nike and wasserman media group at age thirteen. So you can say. She beat freddie to that and what happened to freddie freddie that cautionary tale In our world of. What can go wrong. If you're not careful in the player development andy personal development of these kids. So it's going to be important for richard moskenes for spencer wadsworth and the people ads wasserman media group to guide her the right way because they were also responsible. Freddie ado and make sure that we're not talking about another cautionary tale but this time on the women's side let's give olivia and wasserman and the portland thorns and the end of the benefit of the dow. Here for what they're doing and what were you can potentially do with the player who quite frankly is playing. Because she's good enough. Yeah and you know. It's interesting when you mentioned freddie do. Is that even today. If you're on like a youth soccer field and you ask a parent. Hey name me. Three american male soccer players. There's a very good chance that they will name. Freddie do that gives you an idea of just how big the expectations the media coverage were around him. Mls games were drawn millions of viewers on tv. That that's not happening today. Freddie do was had to be the face of dis united he had to be the face of major league soccer and he had to pretty much be the face of the. Us men's national team as a teenager. That's not going to be the case here for military one. She's playing for the portland thorns. Already have stars and when you talk about the. Us women's national team we got. We got time there so many stars erkin that galaxy that you don't worry about her getting rushed. I don't think in the same way that we saw different times right. And that's what it is. We were so in a hurry to put freddie out there. He's going to be the american savior. What is us soccer. We're gonna put them in a commercial with ballet's representing minute sierra mist. He's going to be dating popstars for for disney or whatever the case may be. It's pretty ado here. do their. you're getting whiplash in the one who's being hurt. The most is freddy adu because at the end of the day he was a fourteen year. Old kid who was thrust upon limelight when he wasn't ready heart speaking of the us women's national team. We have some video from earlier tonight. Actually i know we'll get to that in a second i. Let's so you angel city. Fc's new logo actually kind of their new crest her. What do you think your home team. Listen i've already put my money down. I've already put my money down. I will be incidence season ticket holder. A lot of cool things in the crest. You've got the red tail hawk kind of thing going on that. You got the sunset sunset colors. You've got the twenty two feathers which represents a twenty players in the field. All that stuff. It's very cool. i like it. It's simple at sleek. I love the color scheme. And i can't wait to take my daughter to game. The crust explainer was done in english and in spanish so clearly. They know the market that they're trying to tap into their in los angeles. You mentioned the wings on the design their modeled after a female hawk and in the explanation. They say because they female hawk like many birds of prey is stronger than the male hawks so credited the ladies there the color. Well that you mentioned the soldiers were seeing a nod to the old school. The w team used to be l. a. l. a. also a bit of history as well. This is the video. I was going to mention to you before her. This is from tonight in east hartford. Us women about to play mexico and one of their sendoff games. These are workers from the stadium. Taking down equal pay equals equal. Play phanor the video from the american outlaws group here in hartford from their official twitter account look I'm sure we'll get more on the back story behind this hurt. But in terms of wins and losses in the public relations battle over equal pay. This would seem to be another l. For the us soccer federation taking a beating here if the us soccer federation. I it just one after the other. What are we doing. What are you doing. It's just. it's a circus for us soccer and you said it. In the court of public opinion they are losing. The banner was According to the ao hartford twitter account. Because they went on about this kind of explained it was not approved by the us soccer federation because according to american outlaws hartford it was submitted too late. They also go on to say that all the other banners that were approved were submitted at the same time so again more details on that as they become available of course tonight. The first two matches against mexico next monday. The second and final game of the so-called sendoff series is the us mexico game on espn streaming live on the espn app. That match to be played from east hartford and we will be all over in our post game coverage on america's next monday all right one more thing before we get out of here major league soccer with an all star game skills challenge. We saw this a couple years ago. Who do we have in there. We had rooney young ninety. We had carlos val and now we're gonna have doors well. Does this do anything for you and you for this. Or what are we kind of bread goalie wars. I wanna see no well it mind versus versus matt turner. I wanna see that going on. Bring that back. I wanna see those bay is. I don't know john rigas bring all that stuff back. I don't mind it one bit when we talked about what is mls and especially in circles down south in mexico when they talk about mls marketing. How well they do things. How much of a spectacle or. I should say yes it can be. Mls cup all that stuff. What make his doesn't do. So now you have a chance to participate. And i actually think some of these players. Somebody's fans are really going to like what they see and they're gonna start adopting some of these things fair enough. That's all star skills challenge then set for august twenty four. Let's running back picking a major league soccer. we're gonna give you the top five goals of the season. So far herk. We start with fanin game winner against the vancouver whitecaps for the los angeles galaxy. Okay production. let's see what you guys have a good goal. That's a good goal. You know what makes this a good goal. Watch the touch and then the sentence finish. It's a quick half step when he touches it same but finishes off left foot right into the top corner. It's a very good finish simple math here. Ninety plus the cincinnati defense walls four. Yeah but takes him for a ride. I mean orlando's got disneyworld. I don't know if that rides in disney. Look one spin them to spend again. Oh my goodness number. Seven for nashville because That hurts cincinnati. You can't even get the teams. I suspect i'm sorry. Noni all over the highlights this season. We saw his personal top five on the last episode of football. America's number. three jacob ghazni's philadelphia union. Can you hit a ball better. Why is this. What is the production doing. How was this number one. Nine number one. If there are two goals that are better than jacob blessedness in the ninety third minute a thirty five forty yard bomb on chirp got beneath the crossbar in. Pick it out of your net practices on. If they're better goals in this. I quit about braggers. Was your boy. What happened shots number. Two joel paolo seattle against minnesota united. Okay this is a good goal but it's not number two. It's a good piece of technique is not number two. I love what. But i see lehto gel. Follow for the seattle sounders. Who by the way rack minnesota. This just gave him the business good goal. But it's not better jacob blessedness. This might make you so happy right. Seattle goal that comes against minnesota. And your boy adrian. He just the perfect combination number one rubio rabin of our s. l. You've seen this before the bike. How is this okay. The producers that show squint glenn at hearts. There should be no reason number one. How is quinn sullivan was his bike. Not in the top by. What are what's going on. Everybody's scores goals against san jose. Rubio is really going to be number one quinn sullivan di digit journeyman. Big did you dirty. You're scoring bikes. Seventeen years of age and political mobile being in this came up but throw in so rubio rabin our number one goal of the season so far for one goal except hercules gomez doesn't agree with you can join the moreno fan club because he also has problems with our production picks their top goals here on football. I made against. We will be back on monday. July fifth v last game for the. Us women's national team in the united states before the olympics. It's on right before on. Espn after the come. Join us for a little post game action right here live on. Espn football america's. We'll see next time.

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Futbol Americas: Which USMNT players do fans want to see in the team?

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Futbol Americas: Which USMNT players do fans want to see in the team?

"The football Here on espn plus salazar hercules gomez her to say about the next. What my match. The best thing that came out of it was a me love. Love is not a joke savy but an taught you that but should be valued. Come on plenty to discuss from mexico. Wipe the mullahs mexico. Three nothing winners in the gold cup. John sutcliffe going to be by to talk about that. We're going to hear from ricky ortiz as well kathleen mcnamee also as we look ahead to the olympics starting next week and a reminder everything you see here on football medicos you can listen to as well we are now available in podcast form just search for us wherever you find your podcast under the espn fc. Feed all right here. We are just about what maybe three hours from off the united states against martinique in the gold cup. So let's start there with a look ahead to tonight's festivities in kansas city star. Big picture here because this is a big mismatch. Okay can't even qualify for the world cup. Their french department their players are supposed to represent france. They can only plant concha caf tournaments. Okay mexico famously. Once beat him in again. Saga scored seven goals in us. I know you remember that okay. You know production wanna put us in the spot of being the bad guys. Say it was the producers this time the producers want us to guess whether the following players are the players in the lineup tonight. Or don't want to see in the lineup tonight. Okay so named the player and you tell me. In which of those two categories they fit in. Let's start with one of the young guys. Okay let's start with the kid. Gianluca bossio from his own hometown. Sport against any away plays vice from north carolina. Does he fit into the want to see him or don't wanna see him. Category them them can can somebody. Tell me if it's boozy o or boost yo. Can somebody please tell me first which one it is. This kid is the youngest player. Since due to sign in major league soccer at fifteen years of age everybody knew using the in the next big thing. He's playing in his home market of kansas city when he came onto the field the fans exploded. And guess what this. Us now staying came to life. He has a composure. To his game with 'bite he's got the ability tight spaces to drive forward. He has the intelligence to combine. Endo's tight spaces any megan position her essentially plastic. You describe it. I'm glad you mentioned that. Because i've seen a lot of people already bring up tyler adams. We need a six. Need somebody behind. Tyler adams because tyler adams has not proven to be healthy yes he could play. That seem as hybrid. He's very much a box to box player. He's he has just as much value on the defensive end as he does on the offensive in and by the way my man can strike a ball. Have you seen his free kicks for sporting kansas city. This kid for nineteen years of age. He's brash confidence and he wants this opportunity and it could very well be the next big thing a major league soccer to europe he he and he almost scored in his debut on long distance. Shot took a great safe here. Who else is interested in. Gianluca bouzo venezia fiorentina spicy out of syria. Sporting reportedly out of portugal belgium. So these are clubs in europe. That have an eye on this kid so as much as we're interested in them so are others abroad which is probably why everybody wants to see him in the starting all eleven all right a another player which category sebastian legit another midfielder. Where does he fit in a player. That fans wanna see or player that fans have seen enough of. I think it is a player. That fans don't wanna see anymore. A and i don't understand it. I think is very good footballer. This is a guy. I'm going to separate a few players here. He has major league soccer stench on him. Leiper stench on and most famously means stench. What do you mean stance. The fans they associate. If you're gonna stick around major league soccer for an extended period of time as if i over with you. There's a subdivision of us fandom that doesn't like major league soccer it's subpar. These euro snobs zipper will. They don't point. Do they have a point. I mean the the point that they're making is one inferior level okay player. That's they have a point. What this is this is i think it's i think it's not a question that should be asked because if you think that major league soccer is the same or higher level as you see in europe you don't know what you're talking about. That's that's one very easy enough argument. But if you're trying to tell me he's not a very good player. You don't know what you're talking about into argument. This is a very good player. A dual weapon on the field box to box. You can put him on the tense by you can put them on the wings. He's very good defensive. Side of the boys. Very good on the side of the ball. Hebrews his goals assists good teammate. Employment anywhere he has value to this team the fact that he's twenty eight years old and he's still in major league soccer to a lot of fans that's the issue that's the issue hand not bashing legit and his quality absolutely. I wonder too if people forget that he wasn't really a part of the last cup qualifying cycle like he got his minutes in there. But it's actually when things were going well then he gets hurt and you can actually trace a lot of the us frustrations failures right throughout that south fault. Maybe at the fact that sebastian jet isn't a part of that group. I next on this list. Eric williamson of the portland timbers. Want him in the lineup of one of on the bench. I want him in the lineup. I i love this kid. I know you have a saas bottom in a soft spot in your heart because he's a local product but he's such a good footballer. I got to watch them a lot last year. Out of his games at fort land. He's eight real box to box player actual bite but he's got a physical presence about his game the ability to drive forward with the ball on his for the ability to combine the ability in joining on the attack but it doesn't forget his defensive responsibilities. He's a good player. A good football or twenty four. So i wanna see him at this level to see if he could potentially make the next step and go to europe. Do you think he's got a shot at twenty two or is he a player that we identify more thinking in two thousand twenty six ways for him. It's got to be twenty twenty two twenty four years old. We're gonna wait until he's twenty seven twenty eight years old for him to really get his first shot for a chance. You don't want that as a footballer right now. I think there's a legitimate shop for a lot of these players in that central position. If you're if you're gonna tell me. Jackson you'll the world traps those players that have had that opportunities are locks behind tyler adams. I don't buy yunus mussa. Who gregg berhalter sees as an offensive weapon. Not a two way player. I don't bite. I think there's room there for a spot to be one. Where else gregg berhalter start. A lot option still doesn't have is final. Answer that's the number nine spot iasi's next on our list fans want him in the eleven or not and this is the one player that fans do not want in the eleven and it's a difficult situation as a player to be in because to no fault of his own. If you're a number nine what do score goals and if you're not scoring goals as nine wish you do bring others into the plate score goals. He's a second fastest player to reach double digits in goals and assists in the us. Men's nash teams history. And yet he's the most polemic figure with fans why because he's not your prototypical nine. Is this an mls to her. Is this molest thing to you. Think yes but i will add a different layer to this is also a gregg. Berhalter thing and most fans did not buy into gregg berhalter because of major league soccer. And he's greg. We're holter life for a player. That's very well aware of his system. I'm very well versed in that system. So the associate gregoire ultra major league. Soccer josse czar. Does they forget that he's twenty nine years old and there was a time with the galaxy that they hadn't played as a right back now. He's a designated player for the columbus crew. He's goal score is a man that actually will get you opportunities and can be effective. But if you're asking the fans wanna see him he's the one player fans do not wanna see. I'm trying to remember in your top five. Us strikers of the moment if you ask artists was in. I know that the next we're going to bring up there will decay was in fact in your top five. I can't remember where he was. But i'm guessing you want him in the eleventh. I want him in the eleven. I know he's got a fitness issue right now. But he's twenty one years old he just turned twenty one and when given an opportunity orlando city. Barnsley the us men's national team. He produces goals every time he's involved in a play he's making a run or the ball is at his foot. He's pressuring the defender. Get up my butts off the chair. I wanna see what's going to happen. You can't deny the physical presence. His speed the power but the intelligence that goes with it. He's such a savvy player. I don't think he gets that credit. The way he pressures defenders the way he goes about using his body how opportunistic he is look at those highlight goals. The goals of all kinds headers outside the box run timers a dribble here a feed their. He's a very intelligent player. And he's twenty one years of age and fans the prospect of a player being twenty one like this would debate exploded for the next decade. that's mouth-watering absolutely and i wonder i wonder i wonder if we're gonna see him. Make that big jump anytime soon. I speaking of big jobs. Let's make the big jump to kansas city right now. What hours that again to and our game there is ricky ortiz. Been covering the united states. Men's national team throughout the gold cup joins us now from kansas city. Ricky we're gonna we're gonna come on here. We're gonna talk soccer. we're gonna talk football. But i gotta ask you to put on your meteorologist hidenao. Now what's what's going on out there with the weather and how's it going to impact the game. Hey guys how are you. It's it's raining it's gonna rain all night The the game is still go on is going on both of them. There's no problem it's not gonna be moved like an other other cities but i'll tell you what It's raining it's fine. I'll stand in a tornado just to be with you guys right now. Hair such a pleasure. America's we gave them the extra glad hurt. We'll tell you this whether it's going to be an issue. You have to wonder how much that could play against the us. Men's national team because this is going to be a much more organized team a team is going to treat the ball a lot better martinique and if you're martinique knowing that the weather can play a factor in a defender slips or there's miscommunication or any different type of circumstances that can dirty the game Maybe tilt the gaming your favorite or more of the balancing. Your favorite that goes to martinique. Yeah definitely I i mean they. They lost bad the other day. I'm sure they want to come back. And and and have a better percentation a better show on the field. Definitely the weakest team of this group But they didn't show much. And i know they're stronger front. The coach boho talked about that. But the reality is is that this Us team is much better. I was listening to you guys. I agree with most of it That i gain. They haven't been together that much but there was a lot of positive on this team. And i'm sure that today They're going to want to go one notch higher and and this is what what they're building on to make it to the final winner. Remember they said. This is not an experiment. They're coming here to win it and they gotta go game by game and this is a a great opportunity. They need to create more situations They need to to keep the ball. More in midfield. And i think it's a great scenario rano rain so i'm looking for for Some good stuff. Going on with the united states ricky been covering the us throughout the gold cup even before the tournament began last week. You sat down with sebastian legit folks and catch that interview over on our espn fc youtube channel this weekend. Are you got a chance to speak with shaq more. Let's listen to now tonight. Interview coach Bohara toes you before kickoff. That you're starting what goes through your mind A little bit of nerves. Obviously you know three years away you kind of have those news coming in but But not the only thing. I would think just trying to take event job opportunities. Turn the kind of nervous energy into positive energy. And how satisfied would you performance against haiti Are they gonna before. But obviously you know you can always get better. You know both attacking and defending. But i think it's a good starting-point there to get better during the tournament and next game obviously the team. I think we be one. You know we still stuff we can do better. But i think it's important going into next minute. It's been a couple of years celestin asking with the national team. How are you fitting. Oh well i know most of the guys that are ready you know from youth camps or being in the in the council for so the there has been easy you know the guys have been helping me out of the code having me also the turn this. Obviously you wanna build a chemistry quiz. You can translate that to feel but so far so good right. There are quite a few right back on the national team judd. Lynn cannon What do you have to do to get on the roster for the world cup qualifier. Oh think i just need to just keep doing what. I'm doing just tried to compete. Try to you know. Take every opportunity. Obviously you know like you said. There's a lotta competition. And that's about. But i just want to make the decision as hard as possible. On course bergen on. I'll go from there tells you story. Houses the kids from valencia. And then to. Yeah so i was actually in the in the residency program with the national team. So i was playing there see after that went to training in in dallas until there was a time where i was going to sign home or go go overseas and decide to go to two overseas. I started Lindsey of small club just to kind of give my my feet wet in the european game and then obviously started bouncer in winter Oviedo until refined the home there and thirty development and experience in the last two years playing in spain. Yes so the last two years was we'd live on long to release another small but Unfortunately we didn't have money either so the club folded midseason so imagine you know starting to season august all this allusion to finding going to get you know first team minutes on a regular basis and then we didn't get paid for like three or four months and ninety like wow would i do now you know so you know the fools and have to go back to the volunteer. Actually the second team. Because i didn't really have the. I don't really prove myself. I put myself but not really on a regular basis and then The opportunity came to phase and get my feet wet kind of get more games on a consistent basis and then coming to said that more guys need to play like you did the other night. How does that make you feel. I didn't know that. I didn't see kelly said oh. Yeah i mean it's a it's a company. Obviously you know you always wanted to the team. You know to talk to you know. Make it all about me but Yeah i think the group going forward if you can you know just start from the intensity you start of the game. i think. I think it'd be all right so obviously thank you cut them. But it's not team sports so good you can thank him later. they are What do you need. What do you think you need to improve on the most A little bit and everything you know. Probably you know communication on defense. You know just getting guys on the line. Obviously being in the back. I see the whole feeling I would say probably offensive in china. Be a little bit more. Lethal you know where they crossed the shot over there. Go just kind of take that next step. I was well. So i think a little bit everything but i think those things are probably do the team well. Ricky ortiz in shock. Ricky great interview. I wanted to ask. Because i saw the email that your producer sent that you also didn't interview shack in spanish. I'm wondering how is a spanish. And how does he seem to be kind of acclimating to what it is to be a professional footballer in spain. Yeah a great guy Feet on the ground hit on his shoulders. I can tell you right now He speaks spanish perfectly. He's been there since two thousand fourteen. Two thousand fifteen. He loves it. He loves the culture. He says he loves sending pictures to his friends. In december sitting on the beach would flip flops and In bathing suit so Life is good so far for him He learned a lot. It's great let's let's not forget that One reggie ken and got hurt. He just found out a few hours before the game he was starting and i believe he was the best player on the field. The other day against haiti I like what he says. I like it at his attitude. Everything is positive he wants to make this team. And i think he has a good shot. everybody talked about him. Everybody said he was a wonderful that day. and nothing. He's going day by day step by step he knows At the end When we were saying goodbye said listen. I'm gonna see your nicotine this year. Right you're gonna play champions award. He goes yeah. you're right. I am lucky he was laughing but he he wants to grow. He wants to move forward. He's not satisfied. He wants to keep going. I love that. I love that attitude from him and a lot of this you these shoes players. You've got to have that ambition. You gotta have that confidence ricky. We will hear from you throughout the rest of the gold cup as you follow the us team trying to stay dry. My man one thing. I'm gonna stay dry. But i'm gonna tell you something else at the hotel today. We saw scouts from manchester united. Who it is worthy coming to see. But you heard it first. They're here then. They changed they try to camouflage me but no they're not gonna get me. I you know. I'm gonna kill ninety nine point nine nine percent or here. Let's go sweet baby and find out who they're watching for the next report here. Many they say. Take care guys. There is every keys from eight rain-soaked kansas city as the us and martinique about to face off some big news here for san vines and never got his against haiti now. It looks like he's all set for removed from the colorado rapids to royal antwerp in belgium. Her what they were third in the belgian league. This isn't just any team. Listen the belgian league is a league. That's a great trampoline to bigger and better. Big players have played in belgium. This is great loop for san twice. The i think still has a lot to learn tactically. What a greatly to keep developing and some love for your beloved colorado rapids. He's a twenty two year old colorado rapids homegrown. Let's get some credit. Does they got all that investment. From all right. How about ethan. Speaking of investment investing in the future of the united states even math is going to be joining on a free from bruges. Belgium nodding enforced in english championship. Hurt the second division. The second tier of english football. What do you think new bad. Move for math Well hold on a second backup in the belgian league or an opportunity to start in the championship. I think it's a great move ape he plays. Do not forget zach stepien. How's did quite proved to be the healthiest of players over the last eighteen months. The last couple of years so he's playing dainty out every weekend and something happens it's right there. He's in line. He's fighting for that position if he's playing but if he's not playing that opens up the door for any other goalkeeper who is playing regardless of the level. I'm not worried about him being on a championship team her. I'm worried about him being on the seventeenth place team in the championship last year. When you talk about like confidence in for just gets sheldon pummeled could potentially lose that. I think the bigger question here. Maybe it's one for another show. Is it better to be a starter on the best team in the promo sorry A starter in the championship or bench player on the best team in the premier league now between the two. Us goalies you number one stephan and now you're number two ethan horvath. Yeah i would say. There's a huge difference from being a starter in championship to bench in city and planet a pep guardiola. And then you've got to play you learn. The game are much different than being somewhere like the championship. Okay all right so he can build out of the back really well then great and we every time that the build out the back you complain about it. You complain about it joe plan. That's the tiebreaker. Then for seven they can play the back. Great all. That's number one right now. That's a di- breaker all right. Let's give the topic to tanner testament. Does he's moving on. Fc dow's to in syria and this hurt. This is what impressed me about this. Move after. just twenty six. mls appearances. He's already syria already. I well We're showing own-goal which is great. I guess dan attachment Good size presents. Nineteen years of age. They must see potential because he's only played one hundred and fifty two minutes this last season. Fc dallas. he started all of six times. And this is crazy. I it seems like every week every month. We are learning different players going abroad. Players don't really have great resumes within major league soccer but they're banking on the potential talk about potentially you know who sell potential dabo swinney the The clemson head coach gave them both to give him a football. Scholarship had a soccer scholarship but obviously chose sick with the fc dallas players who went abroad. If there's one club that at least at that level they haven't figured it out in the first team level trying to win but at least at that level exporting players given these the of these players a platform and letting them know it's fc dallas mexico taking on what my life last night in the gold cup after a long long rain. Delay the cotton bowl mexico goes on to win three. Nothing had a couple of those including a great one to start from coonass. Maureen pinero with a goal in a beautiful assist on modi's second goal of the night her. It is not the school year. but let's give grades. What are you grade this mexico performance I'll give an aa. Yeah i'll tell you why you're the easiest teacher ever known on earth. This has to win against martini. And mexico gets an a for beating the ma this version of any berge. I'm tired. I'm tired of people like you say it was the worst germany in its history. It's the worst tamala and that's why they got a hold on timeout. They scored three goals and won the game. They had over seventy percent possessions. Shot seventeen times on go against trinidad eighty percent possession. They had thirty shots. All they didn't do get straight out was put the ball. Tobacco did today. They handled teams in conflict. Gap and people want to keep bringing up excuses. The best player goes down and least next guy comes up and he has a great game. Where do you want. What do you want fashion. Salads are more dominance especially against this level competition. This is the a team a week ago. What wasn't even in this tournament. I was sat on this show telling you that curious. How was going to be the surprise team of the well. Guess what what took place these guys ready this again. This is a this is a last minute version of a team. That wasn't good enough to qualify for this tournament. And here's the reality. And i know you'll agree with me here. There was ten or fifteen minutes at the beginning of that game. Yeah we're mexico look vulnerable and against this version of what that scares me because i think what happens later in the tournament against better competition what happens in world cup fires against better competition. What happens if you make it to the world cup. Fires the same teams if this if this what they're ma life if this version of what the malik and threatened you. That scares me her. That's really here. We're sitting here last program. We did and you almost in tears because not only is it. Alonzo human is not involved in the goal cup. But you'll get asano is not involved in the golkar. You're sitting here in tears. Because linus is with the olympic team sydney on tears because of what mexico has put out. Because we're talking about it. Every now isn't natural replacement for chiquillo. Sign them and now. You're going to tell me. Winning three zero in cup isn't good enough for this team. When you have seventy percent. I'll give it to you this way. Okay you know what he said after this game about scoring goals against what the mala. It's almost better when we score because it gives us a feeling of we're not overcomplicating ourselves. That's the way they see it. The only ones who can get in their way are themselves. I would ask. Can i finish erc finish. But you can't finish is mexico and the real problems on this game. That's the real problem with ten minutes left in this game. It was still to nothing against this. What mala because they couldn't finish the game with still up in the air with ten minutes left to go and you know it you don't want to accept it but you know it looked at. There was a good performance. It's guy you just mentioned orwellian pinera. He has the goal. The one that clinches the game seventy nine th minute to finally make three nothing else. That just has a beautiful setup on the fifty fifth minute goal for food. That's money. He wore the suit of number ten there did he look the part This is so difficult. He had a very good game very good player. He's creative. he's got the ability to make things happen. You know and have spaces. You can do things that most players can't put you're gonna compare them to tricky lozano because that's a place of who is taking and they're going to be asked about shuki lozano and they were asked if he's the natural replacement fraternity lozano and even thought the montana said it's not the most natural selection for a replacement cassano. He said it was yell. And his ability to stretch the game his ability to to have that one d one presence to be vertical to put defenders on their. He'll to get behind him. It's that tells you about ought to be neta and where he's at in this pecking order but he had a good game. I can't tell you that he did. He's twenty five. I wonder if he's at that age. We still young enough to maybe make your move. I mean if we're talking about being a starter in the mexican national team all the success side with grew sassou. Maybe maybe he could be ready for your move or is that is that window closed no last week. Just last week we were hearing rumors and murmurs about center vigo being interested in audible -ympia bananas. So that's not out of the equation. The thing is he's such a hot commodity in league. He needs to make the decision because he makes very good money whether he wants to stay resigned the contract they're goatee grace. Who wants to sign a bigger contract there or take a pay cut smaller contracts and those both go to europe all right enough from us on the game between mexico and let them well after all. We watched it on television. Let's go to someone. Who was there live. John sutcliffe joining us now here on football and then he gets john great to be with. You heard hurt gave mexico and a for their performance last night at the cotton grade. Would you give mexico for the game against what they might set a straight. Here i would. I would give it a a b. You gotta relax. I look at the mexican national team like if it was a boat that was flooding on saturday last night. Hearing the cotton bowl they got some of the water out. They have a better direction where to go but take it easy. They're just starting to follow the waves and trying to get into the right direction. Sure it was a positive day. Mexico one. Nobody got hurt. Nobody's screen the fans reacted will but at the end of the day. What my barely got into the tournament. I think it'll be a step up on sunday. Against sal salvador because salvadorians are going to pack the stadium. I think it's the best opportunity. This album during team has had to beat mexico outside. Study acoust- planning san salvador so relax erc little by little. Yes they want to be done. They got some water out of the boat out of the boat so relaxed. Mexico has a lot to do yes. Hoon is mardi is a boost of confidence since humanity got hurt it in this happy because when poon this morning score goals less people talk about why she does not in. Wanna go there it now. I want to win his money. But i want you to listen to this Ah martina actually very interesting. Say about food is maury and his well criticism of being a national team casino. Game say grenada. But they didn't own analysis in ghana. Cut a deal down when analyses old if the decays kindercare radio See later show on may up. O'donnell potala selects young lucian boy edit obedient big doi- italian contrary not ready if willett apparel the poem quando quando i look pick could Yellow surf commented. Who will now john before we get into martino and what he had to say about what your man of the people the people love. You always around them. What kind of reception did the mexican people at the stadium. Gift bonus money. They gave him a gate a great reception. Obviously he's not a rockstar yet. More fans are are about thick at tito or even before chunky got her but at the end of the day fans come to see the mexican national team to have fun. He scored goals are gonna be happy. So it's a step by step. yes he scoring. they're happy and at the end of the counts bit. You're not going to be seeing foon more jerseys on sunday. You're still going to see more chetty jerseys. Even if he's not here john you mentioned earlier. The chant i just wanna go back to last night and kind of get a sense of what you heard. Not just in the stadium if indeed you did hear any of the chant but before the game like what is being said to these fans. What are these fans saying about whether they're going to do the chat or not. It was great. I did not hear the chan i think with this scene of system. Melissa malevich it's wrong it's wrong. Hey there were only fifteen thousand people. But i think it was great news not to hear the jank taking into account that the last two games in dallas friendly in eighteen t and on saturday also at. At and t. Against toronto boggle there were issues concha is analyzing some kind of punishment. So it it was. I would say baby steps in the sense that the fans did not chant. They reacted well. But this is something that's going to be going game by game because after the friendly in the l a coliseum against nigeria we thought. Hey it's been fixed. Nobody yelled and what happened against the while. So yes it was positive night for everybody for the mexican federation at the end of the day. We still got to see how they react on sunday. And i don't think sunday we'll have fifteen thousand fans i would think will be close to forty thousand john. You're very well connected in the mexican federation. Has there been a sense of panic. Within the mets confederation in the higher ups because of this homophobic chants. Oh yes they're very worried because this is like if you've been investigating investigated for different Things the only thing that's been official people announced to the mexican team a two-game ban from home games in the world cup qualifying for what happened in the olympic practice in the olympic tryout in la cara so they still have to find out what does concha and think about what happened in. At and t. against iceland what happened those two games in denver against costa rican. The states and the one on saturday so here. They are very worried. I think the mexican national team bosses hafez know that it's very possible that every world cup home qualifying game in his style. Yes take a. We'll be played at closed doors What a scene. What a site. That would be john chocolate. We got to let you go. Thanks so much for joining us here on football against and we'll hear from you next week after mexico racks up the group face against our. Thanks for the time. Thanks there goes. John sutcliffe here on. Espn he would make the dramatic. Turn back the major league. Soccer and dramatic because there seems to be drawn between joseph martinez and his manager gabrielle. Hindsight the argentine legend. Here's what he said. After we found out today the joseph martinez training on the side and not because he's injured but because of a coach's decision quote. He doesn't have any kind of fitness problem. It's my decision that he trains away from. The team will continue to train on his own. Hindsight continued. I have my reasons. And i'm very clear on those reasons. Maybe internally not exton leaf herk where do you think this ends up. I can't believe chris armas still doing this. I cannot wait. What is god. We're gonna ostracized the biggest figures in major league soccer. The club legends. That's what we're gonna do. W can be good coach. Governor hines could have good intentions but you need transparent. This is the biggest figure in your clubs history. This is a man when he was healthy before that ligament tear destroyed records absolutely shattered all he wanted to do was score goals and in the process atlanta one everything and he want everything he wanted everything as far as mls competitive up mls mvp all star game be models. He wanted to win. Now i would ask. Where did this come from. What's going on. And where does this frustration stems from. Because if i'm in atlanta united fan. These lasts two have been insufferable for me. I'm about to give up. I'm about to stop going to. The stadium stopped giving my hard earned money to this club. Atlanta set the bar so high with martino so high with that early regime to see what has transpired. What has unfolded as a fan dishearten. I'm interested that you made the josie altidore comparison. Because as soon as i saw this story. I immediately thought josie outdoor chris armas josie alto out is accurate the same outcome that we're headed to atlanta and it's it's a little bit. Sorry i don't want to. But we knew. A little bit more with josie alter. We don't know anything yet. It's a little bit of symptom of mls though in that the players especially if you're a designated player contract you have so much power. You are not just irreplaceable. You're almost impossible to move within the league. I'm suggesting a little bit here that these stars i don't know if have too much power. But they got way more power than the coaches. We just saw it with arms. And i don't think it's going to play out any different in atlanta you. Well they make more money than the coaches Their contracts and to be around a lot longer than the coaches if you want to offload their salaries. It's much more difficult process to do so. Yes i would say. They have more power but we see this in lots of leagues in north america. We see there's lots of leagues soccer leagues around the world. It is what it is when it comes to superstars now. If you want high profile players major league soccer they will be. Ap's and they will have that money and with that. Money comes that power but gabrielle. Heinsohn has a lot of power as well and gabrielle. Hindsight right now is putting himself behind the eight ball because he doesn't want to be transparent isn't wanna save what's going on. All we know crisis mode and joseph is no longer there. The man that most loved by the fan base is no longer there. Do we do. We still have some respect here for high tech has clearly. This doesn't make his team better like he's clearly putting his foot in the ground. Have you seen them play lately. Ten in the east. They're terrible joe so within without them being better. I don't know what that means. I will defer judgment until i know what's going on. And that's the worst thing about this. He can say. I have my reasons but until we know those reasons. You're the reason sounds also like don't you shut it though. Everybody knows that he's in but we're not going to say the reason either atlanta. We'll be back in action has a. Mls is back. Following a very brief gold copper sound brakeman united the new england revolution. That game on espn espn has saturday. Starting at five pm eastern time and then on sunday afternoon. He got a western conference class. Minnesota united against hurts beloved. Seattle sounders have c. Starts to eastern time also on espn espn long lasts. The tokyo olympics are finally about to begin. Kathleen mcnamee joins us now for a full preview of the women's football tournament of course from a great work over. Espn dot com. just recently. She was over at wimbledon as well so getting it in on all fronts kathleen. let's sound. let's get into this tournament a little bit. And i'm glad we got you on because we need a perspective this a little bit different from the. Us women's national team perspective that we always seem to go da. Talk about on this show. So let's all players to watch the first pair on your list. Mata bucci of the home side. The japanese team is a favorite player mind. I'm curious why you picked their clay thing. She sort of player a lot of people. Forget about some time. She spent last season. Awesome villa and the wfl. I think a lot of people were by munich. She's on she's been finalised before why she went to a club after miller where she costly deserves a fire. Place we've seen that already this season she's gone to arsenal few linking up with meet them out and she played before and i just think that she has the vision she. How's the attacking us. She has shown that she so eager to work in the buildup. And she's a sort of player that i think will really make a difference for japan. Is one of those players to hurricane. Appreciate this bangers. Only she doesn't score a ton of she does. They are fantastic. Alls i remember one from the as she believes in particular. I caffeine seen another player. That you chose was a bit of a surprise to me jordan. Wiediman knock because she's a great player but because the goals at club level. Ps gee maybe haven't been there. Yeah i think she really wanted to watch. We how they're down is whenever i twenty one fires one this year to look out for i think she showed at a youth level the technical skill and the ability. She hasn't quite for in the same way that everyone does but about doesn't mean that she can't do it. She scored some crucial goals for this year and actually bringing them flee on winning their first league title so i think it's too soon to say writer off and i think this could be her tournaments really show which is made of yup and we know candidate. I love to ball out in the olympics. Definitely an olympics overall world cup team for sure the canadians the producers wanted to pick a player to watch what you'll imagine i won't way off board. Vivian meet him all right. How hard is this Basically if she's played on a team or an a competition she's probably all time leading score for that team or competition. She's got a like a great career story. I pro contract fourteen breakthrough professional debut at fifty. She's only twenty four and she's got almost one hundred caps for this dutch national team. And the other reason i picked her is because if the us stumbles in the group face if they finish second in their group and going up against sweden and australia. There's very much a possibility of that. They would get the number one team out of the dutch group. I think it will be. Vivian meet them and the dutch side. So we could be headed towards world cup final rematch in the quarterfinals of this tournament. By seahawk over there. He's getting nancy because all we're doing is talking about the individuals and not the team. So let's get into the teams who you want to start with. Well i wanna start with team great britain. I'm really interested in team. Great britain because essentially it's england that qualify for this tournament. But it's not england's if you add so give us scouting report with team. Great brand police kathleen. Yeah say jamie foudy honor the other week and she said this is a team that might be usa's national team and i was surprised because i don't think this is a team that has tricked really well A lot of people have expected so many more brilliant things from england in the last couple of years and since they won the she believes it just really hasn't been happening for them. You have amazing players. Like no. I love rancher. She's in there and she's the one that drives the seating true in the last year so you have amazing talents in their late. Lucy bronze you have him on ellen. White her so incredibly experience will for some reason. They just can't get themselves through. They played france in a couple of months ago and they just they looked completely disjointed. And it's strange because ten of this team or from manchester city so you would think that they have that connection together that they'd be able to play but they haven't so. I think this will really be the tournament. Were they to prove that they can play as a team. Especially when you consider the only two out of the whole roster she not from england in can lonzo bengal who are also co captains of the side. I wonder how much the the managerial situation there has as well lots of Lots of change in a caretaker in charge as we speak. What about other threats to the united states. Kathleen is you look around the rest of the field. Do you see the team most capable of knocking the us out of this tournament. I think we like all the time. Sweden de over latina thing. They're already agreed with the. Us women's national team. But i think because so many of the other main on european leagues have progress in recent years. We kind of forget that swedish knee has achieved. They got out of the whole roster play in sweden. They've played with bridges. The life of marsha on the. I just think they're an incredible side. They were probably one of the only team this year. That actually came close to beating the us women's national team if it wasn't for slightly european no penalties probably would have been a wonderful results them and you have the experience as well as incredible at your current cigar has the most european player in history. Then you also have the youth players command players like hannah benenson who play rosengard. He's only eighteen but was already kind of coffee. I is a lot of very talented people who are watching her plan saying she could be the future of the swedish team so i think one of the quiet ones. That definitely shouldn't be ruled out in this little competition. Okay we all ask for it and we got an expanded roster at these olympic games in my local my crazy kathleen for thinking. This is a huge advantage for the us. Women's team here are so deep absolutely. And i also think it's an advantage for the teams that asked for it because if you look at the way some of the roster's lined up teams at the. Us women's national team. They brought on macario williams. They have very experienced players on the same thing happens with canada. They brought so treats met and thima team. Gb they seem to bring quite young players. I don't know what they have brought those had. They known that they were going to get these bears not to disregard the ones they have. Charles you not paying the final of ella tune at sunday mckeever. They're all great players. But they're not the lights of knob some of the other players. Who would have made those rafters hotbed. But of course it's always going to benefit the uso national team like this stress such a strong squads pick eighteen on the day bush. I just the options you have to throw around there. Just incredible and i think it will especially when it got slow latter stages of the tournament people are i think oh benefit them amazingly kathleen you know. We love a good wager here on football. America's let me put you on the spot if you take the us or the field in this tournament any of the other eleven teams to win it all. Who would you take anything. I'm still going to have to go the us national team. I just think the year off is going to have given them so much control and so much time to prepare for those. There's so many names in there who are going to want to prove themselves. I just can't see any other team really chow. Icm challenged by counc- them actually beating them to it. I hope i'm wrong. Real surprise your sub history. You heard it here. Going to make history the kathy mcnamee a great leader for us on the soccer coverage. You can check out all her fine work over at. Espn dot com her times. You toxin fashion. We got jerseys al dipping our trip in this is wolves new home kit don by none other than that i met as what do you think i think it's great dripping. My man i like cleaning his. I like the little look key menace back in after. They're using the humidity as much as they can. Because they know of he's healthy he is gone absolutely so remember. When wolves do they third kit. That was just basically like mexico. Do i definitely have one of those. Of course acumen is on the back. it's a beauty. I like this one though. I like all the low goes. Hey taylor hamas jersey clean. Yeah my son. I had either shop in the in the youth news large section. You know whatever it takes. I don't have arms like atari right there. I did back in the day back in your back in your santos he has a pretty big biceps. Wasn't only them up like he does. Maybe you should have been. You could end up in europe. Cahiers barcelona's new way. What i don't even know what color this is is the shadow. What's what's happening here. Dripping tripping that strip in because it looks like a practice do not need one of those training kids and it doesn't i. I like the color scheme i really do put. It looks like a training jersey or a tennis shirt. And i'm not that i'm trying to think what we clinton say if he were here he he doesn't like the monochromatic right when everything. Same same color so. I don't think he would be down with this barcelona kit talk barcelona's away. Kit is bright brady Yup yup. I agree with you to producers of barcelona fan. He's trying to get in our year. No producer i know sardinia. Death didn't come out and person. I'm upset as well that looks good in it. Looks like a study in it and of course you can catch that. New barcelona jersey was hurt. Just not seventy Online legal next year for an eight year deal that we signed. Espn espn plus. An espn. Is your home for in english and in spanish for the better part of the next decade art her time to wrap things up time for parting shot. And how about these numbers. My good friend. Paul kennedy over at soccer american. What a weekend for soccer on tv in the united states over nineteen million when combine gold tropical american final the euro twenty twenty final. This leads to the question is soccer. Finally after this weekend officially one of the major four sports in the united states. I'd like to think it is but if you think about it's The stars would have to align for there to be international tournaments every weekend for the top teams of senator national tournaments to play in their the italy or not. It's a major sport so which is really a major league and that is the problem. Okay fair enough fair enough. Which of the major sports then has it replaced. You gotta go gotta go regional your regionalize sports you can sell out arenas but no. I don't know honestly. The debate is is is so silly. Enjoy enjoy sports. If you can't enjoy football this this is very early. He says the football on married silly. No this debate is what he shows me is. There are other fans in this country. Who appreciate football something that in our lifetime. We didn't really think we're gonna see. We always talked about it. The sport of the future will. It's finally here it's hip it's cool to wake up at four o'clock five o'clock in the morning and go see needs where you couldn't pick out of a map in a bar you know and drink watch else's team play. Its core all of a sudden. And i enjoy that yeah. I think it's neat that in this weekend. We see all of soccer happened kind of at once right because usually the soccer audience is so fractured. you never get a big enough number two realistically. Put it up against basketball's best properties or hockey's best properties. I would even say it's probably got case. If not now in the next two years to be a top three sport in the united states. I think baseball is next. If you say that that soccer has already overtaken hockey. I think baseball is next. We've got a lot of conversation in the last week. About how marketable right baseball star. I don't think that's a mike trout or shohei ohtani problem. I think it's a baseball problem. I think younger regime tuning out on baseball. Rule savvy messy doesn't speak english everybody in the. Us knows who he is right. It's never rolled. No messy is. You're not gonna pick them out of a lineup. That's what i'm saying. That's what i'm saying. If we go off starpower loan actually think you can make the case. Soccer is already overtaken baseball but again in yes for a yes but it's silly so just enjoy relax. Great work at the euro's you killed it. Thank you an- clinton's gonna on the show and now that we bad mouth baseball. He's gonna have none of it so we'll have to get him on for his take to see where where baseball stacks up in the soccer rankings are. hey huge. Show coming up on monday hurt. We talked about that side. They may end up winning. Mexico's group who better as the former. Us men's national team player is their coach. He's going to be joining us as we'll alley. Krieger we look forward to talking to her about the olympics again the. Us women opened their olympic journey on wednesday before the opening ceremony. Even kicks off. That's it for us. Enjoy your weekend. Barclays gomez sal. Thanks for watching this. We want to show house.

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Bet Yourself

"Retro the foot is bothering Cam. Newton as kind of gas tea is not practicing today. It doesn't sound like you're GonNa play on some stop. Losing Zink quarterbacks were very good for the content business. Due to injury can like this is a little too much for as much as also huge problem for it well Cam. He's about the team. How about the guy also the person with the foot but our first name is manic because he is now be second name on the giant Ryan Steps Short Daniel Jones has officially been named starting quarterback just in time for the rookie to visit Tampa Bay on Sunday so Bomani. What do you make of the giants CI- line of succession the size of Eli Manning so much they gave him seventeen million dollars for no damn reason you go pull the plug on this in game three then. You shouldn't have started this in the first place with your seventeen million quarterback now remember a couple years ago. They found it so disrespectful the idea of benching Eli Manning for Gino Smith Smith and then you've got to keep his job for two years after that they have set fire to so much time when they could have been working on finding a quarterback before that I can't blame him for getting earlier start on Jones. I just don't know why they didn't do it to games earlier. This was going to be two planes somewhere. Ben mcadoo is doing some version of the grin and grimace because he was ahead of this. He was ahead of visit in retrospect. He had a real strong point. What I hope for now in all of this will. I hope that they give Daniel Jones along leash because the worst version of what's happening now is one in which you manning isn't done right because it's one universe in which they're going to try and just win now when in reality reality. I think they need to be looking long term but I think that's what they're doing. This is an acknowledgement that they can't win right now. I think the decision to go with Dana Jones here like I don't think this is like we're going to do this and now we're. GonNa make the playoffs. They said anything silly like that. My fear is that PAT. Shurmur is trying to keep his job but no but you keep your job by going to the young Guy Demonstrate mistreating that you can develop him like the long-term plate is where it is on him. Now you say mega do look right in retrospect. What retrospect are you talking about. He looked right at that moment. Anybody who could not tell two years ago that was done was lying to themselves. They only stretch this out because people found it so objectionable that you would dare disrespect Eli Manning by by putting younger Gino Smith who at that time honestly probably a better quarterback. That's how you wind up here now with Jones. I don't know I thought he was probably more of a second round L. Pick SORTA guy. I didn't have anybody that trust telling me that they thought he was a guy that you've taken the top of the draft but amen he looked good in the preceding that's enough to give optimism and now he's going to get fourteen games would. Asari team to try to learn and get up to speed in the NFL and good luck young fellow and the other reason why we got to wish him good luck is because that defense has also also bad when it comes to the wind now nece this the defense that has given up sixty points in two games because we are now officially throwing dirt on the grave of Manning we recognize the guy tortured Richard Bill ballot check a two time superbowl MVP all of that. He was great during stretches he was now. You're talking about two games when he wasn't even crazy crazy goal that doesn't mean he was great in just because it was the damn super bowl. They want one of those seventeen to fourteen. It's not like the fifth five five hundred for his career and should not be in the hall of fame. You'RE GONNA put him in any way. He's lucky life now. Mega Patchy sorry to dolphins work said he was too good glad to be part of that and he must have been right because the sorry dolphins traded him to the steelers twenty twenty first round pick this makes sense for Miami which has no interest in winning in two thousand nineteen problem does does this trade makes sense for the steelers not really and I think it only makes sense if they have one hundred percent confidence in Ben Rothlisberger in Mason Rudolph Their quarterbacks room but but this is about the worst time to sell your quarterback insurance like Ben Rothlisberger Elbow doesn't Work Mason Rudolph has thrown twelve passes in his whole career. Fitzpatrick is a very good young player on a very good contract but he's also not going to be the guy who turns the fortunes of your team in any direction but you touched on on this. The trade makes sense if rothlisberger is going to be able to play next year and I wasn't even sure how good a healthy Robbins Burger would be this year. Maybe they have their guy with Mason Rudolph. I don't see they do play. He didn't look bad in the first game. If they had their quarterback then they got a guy they only have to pay something like six million dollars over the course of the next three years and then they get the cheap option on him on the fifth year of his deal that is absolutely worth the first round pick and it's another example of the dolphins and I don't blame them for making his trade because they do probably going to be trouble if they didn't do it but another example of them getting a kick that they will hope to be as good and talented as the guy they are giving away who happens to be young but I'm with you one hundred percent on this if y'all are trying to lose and Y'all think I'm good then I found an overlap independ- diagrammed as is get the hell out of dodge for this was I think a really good trade great for the dolphins and make if it's Patrick by the way there's other stuff going on here bright warring with Brian Floors about what position he was playing perhaps not the favorite pick of the owner and any team and owner and GM disconnect crispier being the GM. That's going to lead to problems down the road but what the dolphins did get was an opportunity unity to get rid of a guy for a top end of the draft pick because what they're also doing is betting against the steelers and that to me right now. That's a pretty good bet yeah and you know what you'll get by the way if you get a high end pick for that guy that costs more money than make this project was going to cost you and by the way probably won't be as good like this is the thing about you in your ilk love this idea of trading actual players for these fun lottery ticket that we could play around with right now again. This is slightly different because as whole attempt is to to try to quit but at some point there are diminishing returns on getting all these first round picks especially considering. There's going to be a point where use them all. You're going to have to pay all these guys who were first first round picks and you're not actually going to be able to keep the amen. If you try to lose go ahead lose one hundred forty five million dollars in cap space. They will have the money. It's just that this is a good deal right now regardless of whether you're trying to lose this year for the next hand but onto Jalen. Ramsey who is also keeping the NFL's still hot we saw the pro bowl cornerback back into it with Jaguars coach Doug marrone on the sidelines Sunday and now we have Ramsey's agent requesting a trade although Ramsey himself does want to clarify would be news in question why out what is it is philosophically gnashing. I'm super excited to play this Thursday. Dr Leaked Information Amazing. We we are not the ones who leaked information so you ought to ask whoever I care about is winning man. Everybody knows that what about this standoff stands out to you that apparently John Ramsey. Asking for trade is the best news who's Tom Coughlin has ever received. It's a bad look if you're coughing and you TRAE Jalen Ramsey doesn't want to be traded but if you don't really like that dude in the first place and he says I I don't WanNa play here anymore. Then you're like Oh. That's just what we have to keep him on the number. One pick of his draft already signed an extension to number two pick in the same draft. The Ramsey went inside and extension the number. Four pick. Nick has not had signed an extension. The number five pick is Jalen Ramsey if you're not signing him to an extension at this point that it sounds like you didn't. WanNa stick around in the first place and now you get to move on without getting blamed Elaine for as much as they are now trying to escape. Where does this demand come from. Where did the request come from all that it seems fair to point out that this seems kind of anti-climactic at this point because we have been following the travails of Jalen Ramsey warring with Doug marrone warring with Tom Coughlin warring with the Front Office of the the Jaguars in general since two thousand sixteen. We saw him pull up the brinks truck that we have that video like the guy has been trying to say very clearly. He wants more money. He wants to be valued valued as he deserves to be valued because he is one of the best players at his position also sponsored by this but all of this feels like a politician talking about you know going on a listening tour around the country and finally yes we have news. He's running yeah but I'm telling you if they had offered him an extension. I don't think we get to to displace there. We're in right now. This is just I think he looks around and realizes they don't really walk me here like that and they don't and why would you want to be there like that. If if you are hip and so you go ask for trade and then the Jaguars are probably gonna be able to pull a first round pick and more because that dude is the best quarter in the league like you're the best player at a premium neom position the fact that they hadn't offered him in extension at this point tells you everything it tells you a lot because this is not a matter of talent right. This is a matter of him getting along with his bosses. That's right what reason is there to run away from not only the guy at his position who is that good but also a huge star. We know shad calm. The owner of the Jaguars is a big publicity. The Tom Coughlin is not right and this isn't the only guy that's having problems with coffee for nets problems with coughlan the defensive end whose name. I can't pronounce off the top go ahead. He's had his problems. I was GONNA try. You got that right. Say Tom Kaufman his own issue. Coming up next is the NFL turning into the NBA high. Noon is is coming from the Heineken rimmer deck at pier seventeen. Michael Jordan has a new business and businesses to Keila here for years with his fellow billionaire owners celebrating the fact that he has achieved the dream of sorts. All I'm saying is one of them hands. Look a lot bigger than the other hand which leads he's me to believe. They didn't Michael Jordan's rider was. I don't touch people all right or the shower. We look at that hand. Look at that hand. Are you sure sure that Nj was there all right Pablo. We gotta talk about this trade. Demand Story makes his Patrick. I moved after being asked to be traded by the Dolphins Oftens Jalen Ramsey might be on the move. Antonio Brown debut cloudy got themselves dealt this off season and Steve Young he sees new. NFL NBA Hey think obviously Antonio Brown and the Patriots just act that way you end up the Patriots look what the Dolphins did La- game the first game like Kokomo call eight and I wanna Outta here this is the NBA now and I think at this point. It seems like they're capitulating to it. They put on a hardline. There's no trade it can come together as a league and say we're not going to do this but it'll be insane every every guy that's bad teams like give me out of here. Give me the Patriot give you the chiefs caller. Asia and they'll start talking about it and then it becomes turned turned. Go Crazy Pablo. What do you think this is really a new world order for the NFL Steve. Young is a legend but we really need to stop talking the NFL needs to stop talking about the NBA like we talked about communists in the nineteen fifty s. What are you GonNa Do Byun. NBA Player like Yo man. What are you so worried about those analogies those examples that he offered didn't even really make sense. Antonio Brown I asked to go from a playoff team to a worse esteem steelers to raiders and then he embarked on one of the most unique journeys through human behavior I've ever seen to get to the Patriots and make it fitzpatrick man like in the NBA. If you WANNA use that example the sixers tanked and they never had something like that even on the basis of those two examples the NBA analogy doesn't even add up the MBA is a notion ocean and it's not just about NFL people the NHL fans they love it the most because the NBA jumps out to them for reasons that they're going to need to explain is the one where the dudes are going crazy because the place where players have had the most individual power over the course of the last fifty years is in baseball baseball being the place where you to stick around for ten years and five and one team. I mean you yourself. GET A no trade clause which allows you to put yourself above the team at a particular a particular way but one that is right in line with what it is that we are talking about. Here's the the problem I got with what he says here and this idea that the whole league is going crazy. The steelers walked away reportedly from a number one pick offered by the Patriots so they can have more control over worry. Tony O'Brien went somewhere where they could not hurt. Them could not hurt them. Does that feel like this. NBA that he is talking about right there make fitzpatrick he's right. They did not have to trade him but but you know why they did because it overlapped with the interest of that team all these traits basically we're talking about here have overlapped with the interests of the team involve the players. You don't have flex to make this thing happen in the way that they're talking about and honestly though this is. GonNa be the NBA same NBA were Blake. Griffin Guy told me he was going to be demand in La and they talked about him. Being part of the future during they shifted to Detroit with three years left on his contract. It was four years left on his contract. Whatever it is come on man. This is not nearly as loud as you're making it out to be and furthermore. You're like why am I supposed to take any particular side in any of this. If Steve Young wants to argue that if you have players embracing they're worth and exerting deserting their value over their employers. Maybe fans who only really root for employers will be dissatisfied. That's one argument and I hear it but the other argument you bit which is we've got to be worried about this. It's like no man how about we just evaluate individual individual workplace right and then decide who seems to be in the right here or not also he said the league owners you gotta get together and stop this. Is that the role of losing your like. You said there why should should I root for one side or the other. I'll tell you why root for the players just about every single time on this data. Was that remind me of me. They remind me of me because I'm a person that works for somebody right like when it comes down to these conflicts I had the hardest time understanding why these people out here watching these sports games or rooting for the billionaires because the millionaires are richer yeah they are yeah. No no no. I got no problem saying what's going on. I'm not going to ignore facts in the course of discussing this but Steve Young is the dude who scheduled the individual workout workout with bill walls while he was under contract with the Tampa Bay buccaneers which is basically way past heard about happening in the NBA it is way past that he's also the guy who bypassed the NFL for the US in the first place a guy who saw marketplace and went after his own value but you make a good point right because yes we should recognize also more broadly leave the giant power imbalance when it comes to the owners and the players in this league in particular non guaranteed contracts all of that what I'm simply we saying is sometimes the player is Antonio Brown and you're like men. I have questions about this and other times the players Fitzpatrick where it's like. I kinda get why you want the owner still we'll have the ultimate whammy which is the franchise tag. You can always say no. We're not going to do Jalen Ramsey case him saying. I didn't put this out publicly. They could've Said said no instead of parents they went and told us about it so they could go ahead and make a move until the. NFL team is getting forced to take scraps in one of these traits. I ain't trying to hear it coming coming up. Next Lavar calls out Lonzo family beat Saudi get death all right time Missouri City hightower high school. I don't know what he'd coach up but he got the crowd. That is a coach that is a coach ended. That's what the suit who would indicate either coach or principal but that is clearly the opposite of whatever town that wasn't footloose said man eater yes maniac which there is some this both. I think either way shout out all sound the same to me. Honestly I quote damaged goods. Lavar ball called Lonzo ball and Lonzo asked about the changing of big baller brand name. Let's watch their exchange on ball in the family. I don't know listen to decide when I come up with a name and there's somebody seventy changing need to change your name. That's why people say here. Hey don't change those named Alphonse on the fact that he'd been doing this for the last the brandon demolish China who's got the world making grow a major Guy Superstars for if I don't do the things that I'm going just another original plan. What did that conversation sound like to. You know like I felt like the damaged goods. Park got a little bit overblown because at the point that he was trying to make it was not a good point because the big baller brand name is damaged good day those shoes. Lonzo said was falling apart. He was trying to make in analogy that lives all I hold on. I'm better than these low tide shoes that you have out here but I need you a superstar if it wasn't for this you would just be another dude in the NBA Bra. Are you serious. This is the problem with big baller brand. It's not about Lonzo who is excellent. It's not about Lamelo who is excellent. It's not what about the other guy who's all right. It's about Lavar. This is all about Lavar. Lavar is big baller brand. Lavar is the reason why when I was in Greece. I saw someone wearing a big baller brand shirt because it is internet humor an anti establishment anarchy and that's fun except when now it gets serious because your friend of fraud in your son Yeah but I will say this flipside for Lavar while. I don't think you should have said that to the young man. He is a lot more famous because all that stuff Lavar was doing but here's the thing it ain't because is it a big baller brain right like the big baller brand itself has been the result of more jokes as it goes for Lonzo that it has been actual publicity that he wants again. He said choose news of falling apart after one game. They were twenty three to three thousand scored. Browse them down on the jets last night on Monday night football ball Pablo would it is win. Tell you about these new. Cleveland browns that they can stop out of body. That's already lying unconscious on the curb like I'm sorry we're brandon in our JIM sadly sitting in the Corner Lake. I know that the browns looked okay at times right. Odell right. We have Odell Doing Odell things. He's like looked amazing. All of this is true. It's just that the measuring stick off. Stop talking to just watch this. This is unreal. It is silly. It is absolutely silly what that guy can do. This is nice but for Mani when it's coming against a defense like that missing all of the players that it is it does make make me think how much am I supposed to be impressed. You know there's nothing that I can really take from this especially when they got down and Luke Falk. There's nothing that I can take from this but if I was gonna take something from this given what they were up against. It feels like twenty. Three two three is a lot closer than it actually been like especially early chances to get touchdowns. They did not get them like the jury is so far out on this team that people with so far too proud soul early but we have in this this room like in that first half we had thirteen more yards collectively then the jets quarterbacks did right minus thirteen to start this thing and myles. Garrett was out there destroying Trevor Simian for the year like all of this is just miserable for the jets and unfortunately that's not a huge surprise closer. We found the one thing. Odell Beckham cannot do both kissing peak hour needlessly. They start today on Bay vetoed. Wait for it. What does it mean to come to this stadium. The kissing started today. What does it mean to come to the stadium and come out with a victory didn't understand the first. I gotta say this for our bed here John Sutcliffe what you introduce yourself as John Sutcliffe. You gotta give me some water that you go start this off into espanol well. I gotTA got his as I do feel for both John Sutcliffe and Odell Beckham because I'm Pablo Torre and people sometimes come to me and start speaking Spanish and I'm like well. Why does that make you feel for John. Sutcliffe because I'm also a guy with a name that does not necessarily match up and five but would you also don't come behind it and start speaking Spanish or whatever it is like he had to know they just because as you say you work for ESPN deport you come up to be an English. It'd be like hey nobody or ESPN deport says if you'd like to do an interview okay cool then you start rattling off. Whoa we do we did not agree to this no and is it time for us to readmit that thought. I was Mexican when we got. We'll probably thought you were mice again. It turns out that you were. I haven't been in a room which you yet. No sewing may hit Cano. I think I know what that means. Soviet inclosing. When I was a freshman in college boat I used to organize games of nutball for Fun Games of what you know what I don't. It's nutball so I'd like to Salute Future Lottery. Pick Doc Coal Anthony who is the commissioner and cameraman for a far grander sort of compost. Throw the ball at her. That's good Karabelas import yeah. Oh that kid by the way restrict lender not Carolina. This is the Carolina Airlock. The law school and we're grading on a curve guys. Were grading on a curve. We'll give Jane. Jj Derail and that victim is oh hold on. That's her car is put a lot of her on her violence going all right here on behavior purves.

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Mistakes

High Noon

24:40 min | 2 years ago

Mistakes

"A Delta flight of three hundred cities three hundred cities where people singing the car and where people miss him one in one of our other two hundred ninety nine cities we don't fly to three hundred city immune to bring us together we're not that far apart. Delta keep climbing Marcus Spears in the house actually good don't let this record fool you the giants just puts the Kansas City chiefs to the end of the game as well this is a good football team Patricia who I never believed in from the beginning is Marcus how confidential Pakistan's be feeling after last night's win bowl they should be very confident not only because they won the game but because the lions they used to be that we noticed everything that happens to be wrong but to watch the games themselves right to throw every single flag is not necessarily the best way to run GEICO I had a rough tell me during the game I old school football Jon Runyan was holding the every play the Ref told me I could call it every play I said you that people are having now and we in heightened sensitivity level both think about it we've implemented replay we've tried to justify never getting a call role and that's why he I don't blame them for wins and losses right you look at it entire game you say yourself what opportunities did this other teams have to win the game the Lions Win The red area but I- next name is the packers because bad refereeing or not green bay is now five and one missing his top receiver Davante Adams Lose Geronimo Allison do a concussion in the third quarter actually putting together a really good team you look at defensively in the secondary able to cover they got kerryon Johnson who getting ready and obviously we know Matthew Stafford sling it around the yard let's game after game with flag after flag makes me as markets are the rest hurting the game this suggests they are and here's the issue with the riffs when you talk about hurting the game the first one how in the world did you miss the second one and then to this is against everything I've ever believed because I'm a former defensive lamb and this this technique is taught because penalizing trey flowers both Tom's on plays where his hands and never went to anyone's face the second of those kept the packers game winning drive alive over the Lions that Utah to get your hand right there in the top of the shoulder pads and drive back and get to the quarterback trey flowers has been doing this this whole career so they expect trey flowers to stop this they're going to be throwing this this could have been a game where field goal win the game for the Green Bay packers with that being said don't make the wrong damn call and that's the so would that be say this was a huge win for Green Bay they pulled off one against Chicago which nobody thought they will win they beat Dallas handily as hard as it is for me to say it's a good football team that's where we are right now this is the thing where I get where everybody's like we'll replay well let's stop because what we want to do is make sure we get it right into truth is you want to get it as good as you can. I think was perfectly in the enemy of good the idea that we tried so hard to get every single thing right and then they get these calls on flowers so terribly rawal right international incident and that went like this and I just think that you know when you're missing formed or you're not educated about something college damn on call every place he was like more because we'll be here for six hours if I called it every play I was like so you don't want to do your job he said I'm doing my job. Football is not perfect all right now let's start with rifts it's never good when they're the hottest topic from an NFL game but strays Bluetooth huge illegal hairs and and he spoke and the so many people could have been harmed not only financial physically emotionally spiritually labral hurdle anyway go now. Lebron James was asked whether Darrell Maure should be reprimanded by the NBA for his tweet supporting protesters in Hong Kong that triggered and Aaron Rodgers was still making plays and dropping dies guys like Allen Lazard and for the third straight gay to Pakistan running back rusher over one hundred yards and I'm just talking about The tweet itself you know you never know the ramifications that can happen we all talk about this freedom of speech we all do have freedom of speech but at times yeah like this was as good as you could have expected for the package look penalties or not I am stunned that they're five and one at this point and part of that is they've got a defense out there right because I don't feel like the Rodgers is out here just wanted to do right like looking at the box score I was like I don't really know who any of these players are and he didn't look quite like vintage Aaron Rodgers but I don't know if you can't do under the guise leflore genius is really you're in a very dark place if it's not vintage Aaron Rodgers eight steel carbon you up that's a big issue as a defensive player that's been on the other side of the with the Dallas cowboys it is terrifying when Rogers rollet that's what happened to the line so when you play against Rogers right like what's the toughest thing for you like as a football player when you see that dude on the correct Jean Mistake always was really going so hard all we never get a call wrong you're going to get calls wrong this is just kind of the nature of it in cameras on so just be careful what we tweet and we say Folk Lebron has been taken to task for these comments as they seem to imply Mauritian Line of business morals and dealing with another country that believes just as much in their system as we do in America it's a tough issue man I don't think players should be involved in Ashfield great see I don't know what to do with the lions because they can easily be five or no they can easily be five but there are two two and one you never say that kind of thing about a team with and they think Catholic Lebron interesting place in this and I'm getting frustrated with the anger that's being directed toward him and others because their point is basically if you care about social justice issues here none of what I'm telling you comes through like if I told you that athletic story you read that first and then hurt the quotes they go over completely different but most people didn't read those all they heard Lebron saying was basically Ali really feel about this situation look this this whole situation where there are Maury the China and basketball and all of that this is the this is the because in Layman's terms most people can't relate to the type of money Lebron is talking about so it seems them why that this is the reason why I'm being hush hush or not saying talk about every single thing but I also get lebrons money is compromised in this because he's making that Nike money in China and everything else and so he is there in that place the only right so if you read that story in the athletic there was a square off basically between Adam silver in the players that were in China where Adam silver's like hey the Chinese won't let me talk so how about you why don't you care about him in China and the flip side is y'all who cares so much about China when did you care about the things that Lebron was actually talking about in the United States like I get the idea that not everybody will be able to domination you just feels like that's ran for this seat is lose where's -tations for the negative that can happen when you're not thinking about others and only on your only thinking about yourself but I believe he wasn't educated on on the situation at hand okay on a social issue while the brunt has been the spokesperson for social justice issues in NBA. What did you think of his comment I thought he had a point that he expressed terror where the rivers flow with ice cold Dr Pepper with the air smells fresh cut grass artificial turf and smoked me the defensive coordinator say good luck solicit he gets rolling look you have certain players where greatness is synonymous with them and they get Jason Garrett go get fired marches going you know everybody you're looking live at fans Ville a college football utopia the doctor warned afraid to shout my grandma could have made that kick because that's the honest truth passionate fans down by loyalty addition and the sweet sweet nectar of the College Football Gods Tatra get a taste of fans villas fall during a college football game near you don't with a radio only plays marching baths and being able to read the defenses more important than being able to read John Sutcliffe and ESPN deported. Does these post game interviews not everybody's ready for let's see the Aaron Rodgers is his trick bag we're we're over here was in China you're not even over there we're the ones in China and we have to deal with that the problem was what he started talking about these things in the ways that he did tansel but what makes fans bill truly special are the people who call it home field the type of people who tailgate before the tailgate guys come out here and split the company Line Lebron was like no we're not going to do this we got young guys here who are not qualified to do this and it seems that his issue with Maury was you put about this right now because now this affects other people this is as much as people like hearing this is complex is very complex it should have been covered up next said Marcus fears get up this morning discussing whether or not Jason Garrett lost his players Mark Gary getting fired during this season aw Oh okay all right then they went there all right cool there's no coming back from that two thousand ten with way Phillips got fired and the message begin to fall on deaf ears guys don't want debut down as a coach when you're going through the monotony when you've lost three straight and groove there's nothing you can do I'm pretty sure a lot of people feel like that about my joy to some of those throws over his shoulder throwing the left sideline up there and just like how does the person capable of doing that we receive think about it as though and I get this role abroad if you're telling Darrow Maury hey man you should have thought about how this affected us before which I think is a fair point then you Lebron also can't say too much there's warning yes I could I tell people all the time look sometimes it's not about winning and losing sometimes it's about the response of the players on your team I was there walls caving in and the owner has not committed to you as well for being the coach long-term then things begin the transpired I could cause you to be fired Vinci's now dr pepper the official drink of Fans Ville grab some today I knew this coming to you from above the high they can live adept at pier seventeen vic jerry is almost in a position where he's going to be forced to make a decision whether that's during the season I don't know I know the quickest way to be let go as head coach is players money I think we entertain too many distractions say a Washington state coach Mike Leach about banning his players Oh name Lincoln Riley why wouldn't he be right we look at this trend that's transpiring in the NFL we try to find young guys that can be head coaches that are offensive genius man rough on me and that's not what people wanna hear when they want to hear the Chinese are all no doubt Boeing Dean that I go to about the whole situation when we heard Lebron talk was the financial look at this offense and you say Dang I wonder what this would look like if Lincoln Riley was calling plays I don't know what that means the Keller more maybe more becomes a student of Lincoln Riley that's the I'm using twitter and instagram and other social media platforms for the rest of the season Fo- it's easy to mock leeches policy but does it make some sense really the personalities the right code some people say he's a puppet some people say he's the perfect guy for Jerry Jones because he'll stay out our way he won't upset the applecart the thing is though is truth is they were really good last year you know why they had. NFL quarterback we didn't know it was an NFL quarterback Menchu's down there now in Jacksonville he had that level of guy there it's hard to get it's only fire one coast during the season and that was way you were there when that happened it was one in seven at that point right do you think if you've been like three and five that that would have I think it was coming we can be all social media I think it's getting a bit much for certain players though maybe recognize some within his particular team these players on this team that's affecting the AH yeah exactly who also today's is to win in Washington state and I don't think about the Internet is fixed it's difficult when you call your players fat and lazy for them to respond to you as a coach now leeches different he's different cats wanted to feel I wanted to play as much as I hate it now that I think about it in some of the things that I- wrist when I was playing I wanted to play on Sunday it is so hard to sit at home and watch these gangs are things happening here might lead say the problem is meat it's never you right you're absolutely right clipped will ever be the same do I keep playing anyway because Jason Carroll was the guy down there allows the issue to bolted he loves Jason Garrett I don't think that's a secret day anybody loves the way he runs things there's a risk of this but that had already been dealt with on the front end when the decision was made to go ahead and play and so if he feels now that he is right I'm not surprised that he's going to go out there and do and see the thing for me we do too much losing does do that to you went into secure off everything if you win you pull whatever you WANNA social media that he might be right about that but I'd say it is if they go out here and get smoked it comes down to it all right now coming up next Cam Newton might be healthy shitty expected job back Delta we slide take a down snap we risk in a concussion you know if he's cleared he plays right because I think the one thing about it is yes there is an increased danger of concussion if you've had one before there's also just a dangerous cushion for space but I know if I was stephen backup a damn bring stroke and I no longer Riley I'm like no thank you doug I got a good job right here three hundred cities around the world that's three hundred cities where everyone does the same things you do that's three hundred cities where people think they're the only ones who know about that one place three mates play especially when you have success like beating the chiefs and Areas Leonard obviously pop on the scene last year everybody knows he's a really good football player you say he's risking it but every time we the Munsters Counseling Dracula tell me how you're feeling no one understands how only these no one will even let into the House I knock knock but they ignored football in general like the reason I'm not playing is because I'm not getting concussion reasons you go your way class right but that's the thing I think they can often get lost if he was in this role with us but money he'll beat a weird stand in the corner of Wall with all of that being said though I don't know if I just I'm I'm about players having freedom and being able to back on the field no it does not a lot of people want to have the response like all the time you need but you gotta realize Boeing in my nine years and playing in the NFL. I wanted to be coastline back Darius Leonard about what went through his mind missed the last three weeks while dealing with a concussion mark is given these remarks does it seem odd to you that he appears to be ready all right we're going and this is why I say not really there there are winless right now and PAC twelve then because they own the Internet right this is a whole lot of don't look at me is not my fault others to I'm having a breakthrough it's not easy to be a vampire but with gyco it's super easy to switch and save hundreds on your car insurance all right California they all year long gone from my days of playing defensive line you know I learned these things all right cities where people missed someone in one of our other two hundred ninety nine cities three hundred cities where people sing in the car or the shower or both Hooley Delta isn't Flying School football which is good at Texas football but whatever now this young man is running run young man run except he's running the wrong way God Bo this is bad coaching like man this headache is not going to make me lose my job right like the states of different there this dude is established himself to be like an all pro caliber player. I think the he can go ahead and sit out a way at the time you always just know your body no if you're really ready to go or if you feel like you're being prejudice I'm no we had this big conversation about Katie and was he feeling pressure there is next game would you gonNA do next you're gonNA make them go amish right they have to light up candles in tough like that's the whole thing is I don't know how you're going to draw a connection between these things but I very rarely after the three hundred cities merely to bring us together but to show us we're not that far apart replaced Delta climbing geico presents to be ready to practice following the parents by week this week according to Adam Schefter Bowl we can't be right to expect job be right to expect his job uh-huh what else I look in the mirror don't even see myself anymore if you don't see yourself clearly can you really expect oh Tom Herman was the guy they pay it to the next guru at Lsu Eddo was the unsung Louisiana Guide and nobody can understand he's not a conventional buttoned up coach all the back I am still stunned that this is even a question Kyle Allen has been capable but you go see what you've got we can't even if all you're doing is kicking the tires to figure out where he is healthwise but only advice from old man that play a long time if you're not ready stay you'll but in they're trying but I think he's in a position to where he's good enough flexibility it's like there are some that are out here he went to Joe Brady and say hey we need you to be a good football team I think some credit needs to be given to football acumen mortgages exit maybe not maybe he's not the strongest but he identifies doesn't want to write I thought they made a mistake by keeping the interim because his ole miss tenure was such a disaster it was like this isn't demand that you put in charge I remember Ryan Clark was like per for everybody but he point I e you remember day grew yeah he gone now tell me this is Kelly Moore the Guy Jerry wants to have that job now I think the guy is in Oklahoma he's owners this dude has been your franchise for nine years and the last time we saw him play healthy was the first half last season when he was very good you don't just put that on the bench you know what we so millennial don't do what the point shape the number seven and three because L. 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Seventy three were goodies and that's after he got Joe Borough and people need to know this isn't the first time Lsu's heady good quarterbacks the first time they've done good things with that good quarterback borough might get number one draft oh there's a sentiment out there that Eddo is not really he's a football guy think about this right you look at guys they have their specialties specifically neighbor into defensively and the less this problem was less was an offensive guy with antiquated offensive philosophy and those rods that heavy philosophy in that way he's just go get this guy and now we're going to do that perfect for us if this thing is working part of why I think it's working it's the same thing that's happening with Dab oh these people who are hiring guys who aren't coordinators so they're letting other people do this stuff so on them and then they did not get to play Doh remember comes efficiency last year was better than had ever been against what he was doing throwing the ball to twenty two yeah McCaffrey I I thought he would be Xiaoyan this whole world and society right now don't forget like I understand people that make the argument that can never be healthy again I get that and if you basically your argument that vet dude right there is a master outside to throw the ball to it would how crazy would it be if in this year Andrew Luck and Cam Newton both finally had teams of people top ten teams onto it after beating Florida this past weekend markets owes Ron deserve more credit for Lsu Success Ham radio all right listen I'm gonNA try enclosing met a few friends for dinner last night I may showed approach one of them our Brian from a ninety degree angle so there wouldn't be any Joe Brady and Stevens meager LSU offensively but it needs to know who to hire Yup who identify that can get off it's going the right way has a Superman Cape then Yeah Camden these job beg but I know Dan we don't have no this is the most balanced team they've had cam has gotten there like Rivera took over two calls on defense to killing it there it's been a distributor of the football and that is good for what the parents are doing now that will be games down the road where you need superman put his Cape On and if if Collin to point brother four no because the panthers before no with cow Allan this quarterbacks as Cam Newton went down the council injury has healed whale and he's expected golf the LSU badge of one hundred I wear every single date it owed run as the tremendous job think about the controversy that this new came into this job with I they tried to get Jimbo Fisher for two years today's by the way has been to a super bowl and if it wasn't for a Denver Defense Probably Rwanda should've dived on the fumble I'll be honest I but cow Allen right can understand and give some validity and credence to that but when you we this is cam new this is Andrea Guy and Cowan the first pick of the draft and Cam Newton whose detriment practice these situation shout out the number four boy how do I go to fill bruce good tackle hey I love ain't got up like they say that's how you raise a child you confront adversity in the face you swing on and I got to say I'm impressed by that also WanNa talk to those parents know in closing I want to introduce the world to Charlie out he um Whoa I love it I love it be for me in closing I wanted to introduce the world to try and get that road this I'll say about dating that's when people know things are happening around him but they don't actually see I love this hoping to this has the faith in your security and he's like I am it'd be ready to scrap that out those go together there's a perfect fit thank God knows that he is pushing the bottom line is totally against the baby yes when you give your kid the courts pullover Polo like that his next trip is going to be playing golf that little boy is better playing golf the anybody that's on this said right now and hate him forward but he was ready for that money upset the applecart with this I expect Charlotte run out the mall into the free and fight somebody else not a damn spider this thank you creepy girls I sleep in the car now at the guy go weeds which today for twenty four seven access to licensed I also love about this is is normally that happens there's a free pause like no snap. He knew that he was straight to hug who knows go get a scare by spider and then attack the Spider Charlie is the kid I wa- he's a kid I've always dreamed of Abbey here is looking at Charlie funny to have lost shook up on the hill out of jail by thank you all right we'll be back tomorrow highly questionable of next this place look haunted don't think so too creepy girls cons game fast big time and not only that you didn't hear the sound but my Charlie's mom had to tell him to stop eating the spider up it's funny they seem to think Oh let's get this cute video charlie although I don't know which one it was but he almost got his t- push yes sir let me tell everybody what you just over pushes t is called Hood Census yes misunderstandings like this one is that the role of now festival in New York that's why lay coming hair yeah yeah coming surprise puts it to you sooner keep up in today s scramblers role. I'm the old guy with gray that truly frightening what's missing is Great Service with you twenty four seven access to agents they made it let me show you so speaking of making impression five six and look at this man could I did not quite like when he was bullying him dudes over there in London mouse can let you get back on a plane like that I was with Dan Orlovsky earlier this week about cam I mean you're scared no security system we go show video a charlie wrapping somebody come up behind him he'd turn around just like pushing t security and listen I haven't seen to get drew don't stage so ready property puts it to you guys and gangsters don't get thanks to babies realize ready for this if you'll may fighting spiders big though like I feel like I've actually team Charlie too because they thought it'd be Christian McCaffrey and saquon bargain. I still say one is about a bag but I damn doing running a meal with yes all right.

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Will EURO 2020 be Postponed?

ESPN FC

43:54 min | 1 year ago

Will EURO 2020 be Postponed?

"Welcome insulates addition of ESPN AFC. Thomas joined by shaggy his alley. Moreno Gal calls. He'll be with US shortly later on in the show. We'll be talking with gap. The possibility of Neymar returning to Barcelona and Gab will be telling us as to why he thinks it's the right time to sell many damage rates. We saw daily update regarding the corona virus and how it is affecting football around the world. It was confirmed. Five members of Valencia. Three of the team to the staff test positive for the current advisor now these the first cases of active Lolita players testing positive has ten active players who've also tested positive for the virus legal necks spends all games after completion of the round for at least two weeks game tonight. Brazil suspense old competitions. Me Italian. Fa president will ask for year. Eight hundred twenty to be postponed so they can complete the season goblets thought without shower. This all ahead of course of that meeting on Tuesday. Uefa will discuss whether or not. You're twenty twenty. We'll go ahead in a set schedule. I imagine the Italian. Fa WON'T BE THE ONLY ONES lobbying for postponing this tournament. No no he's not at all in fact there's at least half a dozen other me to large size. Faa's who who have already signed on and and they want to look at all the options in terms of postponing euro. Twenty twenty one of the key elements in this specifically in the case of say the they do have a plan together as they hope to get the all clear to keep to to start playing again. Possibly in early May and the idea was in those two months between May and June you you play out the rest of the season or most of it perhaps modified playoff to go and complete the season and settle what you need to settle. That might also gave enough time to go or should also give enough time to go and complete the Champions League albeit probably not in its current format. Remember there's several round of sixteen which as yet unresolved and of course you would have to move the final. Currently scheduled for May thirtieth stumbled. But but that is the impetus and it seems to be a compromise solution which would ensure that we could get. Some closure people would lose out too much financially but of course. It's all predicated on getting the all clear and start playing again in early. May and we have no idea that's going to happen. But in all likelihood cab used to gesture everything we know at the moment. Your we'll be postponed. Yeah I mean it would have to be a scenario where you can't. I think the only way it goes ahead is if there's a scenario where somehow you can't play football in most of Europe in early. May but suddenly you can in early June. I think that's extremely far fetched. I think you have said. They're going to listen to their stakeholders listen to their constituents. They're very few people out there who really have a strong vested interest in Euro Twenty Twenty. Going ahead come. What may I'm talking about Federations League's players Players Union And I think ultimately I think the majority opinion will prevail Wayne. Rooney's writing for the Sunday Times. Now this is just an extra of his article saying well. If current viruses as bad as the prediction site then there may come a stage. When you have to decide whether to cancel the season completely from a player's point of view. If the season has finished in June finish in June the euro will be cancelled one hundred percent. We're happy to play up until September if the season extends to then if that's how it has to be that's all job as long as we know is safe to play and it's a safe environment for spectators will play the next world conference in November December. Twenty twenty two. She could actually use the situation as an opportunity and say we're going in to finish the two thousand nine hundred twenty season later this year. Then prepare for twenty twenty two by having the next two seasons. Starting in the winter there are different. Things that game can look at Gabba. Makes Sense doesn't make sense in Wayne? Rooney's world but I mean I think they are. They are different calendars and different situations around the world. There is a match calendar with dates. That are out there for reasons. Different places around the world have different climates. I think he's right in saying that in his concern at the fact that took me. Keller Totta testing positive for football to be stopped in this country absolutely one hundred percent and I think he's right in saying that they have to get creative with the calendar and by all means look at this place through September thing but I think when you look at European competitions and the way things are set up top to bottom is. There is a better way of wrapping up sooner while wrapping it up in a way. That's fair and everybody's happy with I think it's probably more advisable. I think I'm surprised to some degree that when Rooney was dismissive us it was about the euro. Say they'll be cancelled one hundred percent and it's almost he might have meant to say they'll be postponed. Yes yeah instead of cancel you because this is a major tournament a major competition really next to the World Cup the Euro. And so you don't just go around saying. Oh we're just going to cancel it because has got just alluded do. They are many interest and many people that have a piece of that Pie and the euro and they won the tournament to go ahead. Ideally would be previously scheduled by probably. That doesn't seem realistic now. The postponement of the euros. I think that makes a whole lot more sense as to what they do. In terms of how far they go into plane this season. I think he's larger point. Is We want to finish the season out. Whatever it takes a finish the season up but that may not be dependent upon what the players wants to do is dependent upon what the reality of the coronavirus is and and we don't know where we're going to be. We don't know where we're going to be made. We don't know where we're going to be in June and so that changes the dynamics as to how you see and evaluate the current situation. I think it makes a lot of sense. I'm going to postpone postponement as opposed to constellation. But it's no more farfetched than any of the ideas that we've had so far is probably a lot more doable than than many of the ideas. What whatever whatever the one thing we know for sure is that football has to be rethought as to how you bring a close to the season and none of those are going to be easy. I think this is well with continued to beat Ganga. No I just want to say. I mean if you're going to finish the season in September. That's obviously going to impact European competitions from next year the Champions League the Europa leak they generate a lot of money. It's not just all money. That goes to clubs. It's also money that goes to smaller federations. That trickles down this idea that because you know you wanNA finish in September and so everybody else has to finish in September and play through the summer. When it's forty degrees in Seville in or one hundred five degrees? If you're taking Fahrenheit in Seville in late July I don't know I mean it's a big world out there. There's a reason why the seasons are the way they are. What works for you in the championship at Derby? County may not work for all of Europe. I think what he's talking about his English football specifically not not just W. H. I. Bishop not necessarily about this about the world if the black to be on the same page listen. I understand that all my my point here is. Is that whatever we proposed? It's it's good to change. It's going to be a huge change and have impacts somewhere along the we know. This is autumn. Sita's put this on the table and have those discussions. How do you kick that can don't enrolled in terms of bringing this season's Champions League to ACLU's finishing off what's left of of the playoffs to qualify for the euro's whether we have the euro-zone not some somebody is going to have their put out put out here? Here's the thing though because it feels when Rooney stock initially about his situation and the situation in the UK and Darby County and the Premier League and so on and so forth but then he ties that up to well look. This is something that could be done with leaks preparing for the twenty two World Cup. And so now you've taken what is a local approach to how you finish the season and made it enjoy global approach. And that's a big jump because there's a lot of things that need to happen logistically in order for this to become a reality final on this gap dismissive. Bruni think it's good that people talk about it but you have to look three hundred and sixty degrees around the world. This is what you're doing by talking to talking to all stakeholders in different leagues. There look at different solutions. But I think the best solution if it's at all workable and it may not be the best solution is wrap up the twenty one thousand nine hundred twenty twenty season by August I by July thirty first but by July first whatever it is if you can and then worry about what comes afterwards after because I think that that has to be the most important thing football wise once we get a handle on the pandemic is of course very fluid situation at the moment today with all the latest. You can join us as we are with you. Of course every single day that will be a brand new Gavin Gills. Podcast whether you like it or not. It will draw on a Monday Be CHECK IT OUT Gab. Let's talk show abound some trouser room with money. Going to reality rid of cool. Seventies rooms is the FI- some a suggestion that Heyman Low Saleh can't get on with each other anymore. Yeah and look at the whole thing about the relationship between the two I from what I can tell often stems from the fact that one of them's wide open doesn't pass to the other and the guy complains which happens. Quite a lot between strikers alley can confirm that but in the case of these two people seem to have decided that it means that they can't they don't like each other and therefore mining's being punished by being sold to round Madrid but the reality is monitored for me. No and Salah are all the same age You don't want to have three strikers in their late twenties all getting old together. They're all GonNa get very big contracts. No that and I think for the right price liberal would be happy to sell one of those three of those three money is probably the most saleable asset and around Madrid need attacking players because the ones they have are either kind of almost permanently injured. Or there are people that Zidane's Dan doesn't want but Gareth Bale and so all of this comes together and make sense. Why is he the? My saleable assets. Well I think money is the most saleable three because he gives you a ton of goals more goals than for me. No obviously play center forward. Plays it in a different type of way. More of an of an assessment. I think money is seen as somebody who can be dropped into Different types of setups. I think there is still a sense. Riley wrongly that with Salah it is sometimes feast or famine. And he's not quite as as disciplined as you know. A lot of people really underrated him before before he went to Liverpool overeating after arrived at Liverpool. I still think there's that sense among football purists and scouts that that money is somebody who's more of a traditional superstar rather than Muhammed Saleh suggesting boys one hundred and fourteen million pounds and it can be the price tag on money. I think you take a listen. You pee on forty million for sale your money. I think it's good business. It's an incredible football and you understand. Why clubs like Real Madrid are interested? You understand why Liverpool continued to be linked with a team of winner. Give them give them all of that. This try not see night to I and not. Being friendly of of the pitches is nothing. You just look at Andy Cohen Teddy Sheringham. As long as they continue to produce on the park. That's all that should matter to. You can come onto Liverpool on. They continue to do that. But a bid that big comes in. Yeah Yeah in the Powell Sally in the brain and we've seen round pick and choose who they want. Has the landscape changed slightly? Is it a no brainer to leave Liverpool to go to Madrid where you have to be very careful with your money that you don't fall in love with the idea around the data and what it has been historically and you forget about the fact that you have something going on right there right next to you in Liverpool? That is working. And he's working very well for you and he's working very well for Sadler and he's working very for me. Working very well for everybody is a team that is currently constructed is going to be challenging for a title. Makes SEASON. And he's going to be challenging for Champions League next season and and he is a critical part to that success. I would argue that. Saudi Amana has been the most important attacking player and there were pulled this season and I can comfortably argue that so if your money you you don't just leave that behind and is a is a huge name and it's a great target and it's a childhood dream who knows but man you have something going that it's beautiful right now and to leave that behind thinking that it's going to be better somewhere else that's when you have to be careful because he got something. That right. Now is magical. I get that but I still feel that link for Real Madrid. Real Madrid is still the biggest name in terms of who players want to play for. Listen I know this. Real Madrid isn't the Real Madrid of even two or three years ago. But I still feel it. Has THAT ATTRACTION. And if your side your money as as good as it's been real. Liverpool we've won the chapters league still. What's going to happen this season? But let's say you win the Premier League and you're originally twenties Real Madrid comes a calling. You understand why you're prepared to walk away from. It's just not always a perfect. That's all but four hundred forty million pounds it may be a good enough fit your meanwhile mark saying that's putting directs a Leonardo at Pier. She decided that Neymar may be allowed to leave in the summer. One hundred and fifty million the price tag that is on the Brazilian and the Boston even have hundred and fifty million euros GAM. That's a good question. They can certainly that they would. I think they were hoping that they could sell Philippe Coutinho to Biron and get some of that money back. Otherwise you look at other saleable. Assets are a little bit thin on the ground in the reality is it could be could be coming back and so then you need to get a little bit creative in where you find the money and you need to answer the question Which is with messy sticking around with. Luis Suarez sticking around with Greenman when sticking around and I go back to this without fatty getting more minutes. What the heck am I going to do with Neymar is this? Where WANNA put my resources. I think right now. Neymar almost seems like sort of a political electoral thing that that Bartolomeo and others are being kept aside maps to distract them from all the other things that are going wrong the club. Meanwhile a lot of talk about who will be the next Chelsea goalkeeper because of course camper clearly not like by Frank Lampard to name scenes have risen to the top job. You've got Nana I ask the Henderson at Sheffield United so between those two I mean I think first of all let me say kept up played the last few games including the the game against Everton League. It looks like the worst is over there and in terms of the relationship between him and land partner and I think also from Chelsea's perspective. I think they only give up on cat. The relationship with Land Party is indeed healed and it looks that way if they have a buyer. They're not going to keep him on the bench. And I think it's very hard because most top clubs aren't looking for a goalkeeper right now that said if you had to pick between between Henderson and Nana I would lean Henderson but Henderson means you have to deal with matches united. We're going to be extremely reluctant to to sell them to another premier league rival Henderson. Send doesn't want to sit on the bench behind Dhabi so personally. I think you're better off with that. Seems to be easier but I still think gonNA stick around check. I like all goalkeepers I think necessarily a little bit raw. I'm in riskier choice. If you're Chelsea but Henderson as attractive an option uh he may be gap is absolutely right. I'm not sure that one Manchester United necessarily want to let him go give them dovid on struggles Whether you can get off your books is another question. That only Manchester United a can answer. 'cause we will probably have to pick up a part of his wages and if you're Henderson again given how good you've been chef united you understand why I'm just GonNa go back to Old Trafford and bench while you figure out what you do dovid to here. So it's it's a tricky one for Chelsea to to negotiate rip did not really hold on that many cuts sticking with Chelsea and who they could spend money on in the summer. Leeann bailing eight thousand five million pounds a lot of clubs chasing him guide per apparently it's Chelsea that's leading the way in the moment although the respective Leon Bailey. I think these numbers are crazy. Eighty five million for Leon. Bailey won Jaden Sancho who is younger and a lot more talented in my opinion could be had for not much more than that. Personally I see this as one of those stories that gets put out there. Obviously Chelsea are treated jet. Jason Jaden central along with other clubs and all of a sudden. You know these stories go over. What are they went for Bailey instead? And then you know maybe that lights a fire under some people but for me. I don't see I wouldn't spend that kind of money on on the on barely sticking with players could be leaving by. Leverkusen is interesting because boss has come out talking about the teacher of kyw habits and said we can't hold onto him next summer it will be a transfer of over one hundred million euros in the business. It's developing talents and sending them on with at least one hundred million. We'll try to strengthen ourselves in three or four positions under million jobs a lot of money a lot of money. He's a very very talented player. I think he had. He had a rough part a rough start to the. I'd say that the first three months of this year they've Kuzan. He's He's played a little bit a little bit better. I think since the break one thing that people throwing these hundred million numbers out there. That's what he would have cost last summer and people passed on him. I don't know that is stock has risen this summer. I don't know you know maybe he makes a contribution to Germany Euro. That might be a game changer. Even if we're going to have a European championship frankly so Tremendous player WANNA watch but hundred million on little bit. Steve and I think from Labor cousens perspective. You're better off hanging onto him another year. Let them grow further and then and then selling him for Money Bailey instead. Plenty of room is. I'm sure for us to discuss the next few days. You can check us out on transit. Talk from the website just to remind at one more game to be played in the tenth round of matches still taking on. America as you were cooled came still yet to kickoff crews a chance to go top of the standings welcome Hercules Gomez as we mentioned at the top of the show that's it for Leaguer and makes off. Tonight's game they will be suspending the league. What was the castle? What was the breaking point because they seem to be the most stubborn to make the change? I think outside pressure the country in general. It's really difficult for League. Macy's to make a call when their own president when their own government refusing to acknowledge how serious? This is Saturday and Sunday. There was the Latino concert in Mexico City over one hundred thousand spectators Saturday. Another one hundred thousand or expected today. I seem to not be taking this seriously. I seven cases and jumped and it was Thursday. We're GONNA continue to play Friday behind closed doors Saturday. Well now. We're really thinking about shutting this down and we are Sunday. It's over with indefinitely in this really hurts league because they are a league. That's dependent on tendon cells concessions the parking you know game day sponsorship so when this shuts down it's going to really hurt me looking to the future. Two Thousand Twenty six in fact twenty twenty six fifty teams from analyzed twenty from League Max. John sutcliffe reporting that this Super League could happen with the two leagues merging. Her idea let me just say take take that reporting with a grain of salt of fifty team league between three different countries. I don't even know how you can get to come on board with that. I don't even know how logistically that would work why. Mls ownerships would want to align themselves with certain owners at one hundred percent sure of Mexico doesn't even have twenty teams. They have eighteen right now. Teams. That could potentially stay afloat on their own. Maybe less than that. It's a good idea in theory of international competition of interleague play. Serve a cup kind of thing if you will be open. Cup and Canada has a Canadian Cup and Mexico has Copa America version. If you will a Super League version of this would be great. But I don't see it being fifty teams. I don't see happening. Twenty twenty six. I understand why they WANNA get with this this relationship between the US. Canada and Mexico. I understand what they're going for. It's what sells it sexy at the moment. But there's no chance I see happening with teams. Do you like this honey. I sure don't now I can see from the perspective of a League. I make that they they see the market here in the United States and they feel like there's a lot of untapped potential there. There's a lot of dollars on the table again. Get a hold of if we do this correctly if we go on Mars selves in a different country of course opens a windfall of money for league. I make you know what we can take advantage of that. However there's so many difference between this two weeks let's go into the details of the fact that MLS is a single entity structure. So everything that happens in Emily's with every team in major league soccer is an oversight and supervised by MLS League. I make this structure and so now. What are we talking about? How do we then manage those things coming together? Let's not get into what a fifty team league would look like because that would be impossible to even consider as a possibility. Let's say for example you now have a major league soccer and minor league soccer migos. You have to break into one and leaked to how about the new owners and expansion teams that are coming into major league soccer that are paying two hundred three hundred million dollars for a new franchise and then you tell them. Hey guess what. We've got quite a project for you here. You know that major league soccer that you signed up for not quite that you're going to go to minor league soccer. Look there are so many challenges logistically here that that make it so very difficult for me to think that this can be done anytime soon and certainly by twenty twenty six you understand the why attractive to everybody. I think at Max and the US market unto the US with the continental significance of League. America's and and what it means and what we bring to the US but as as you guys ready point total logistically. I just don't see how it can be done in a way that satisfies not just fan bases ownerships and how you put this altogether moving his other thing. Tv rights people may not be aware of this and Hercules can speak to this as well that TV companies in Mexico have a lot of power into what happens with the Mexican national teams. There's a Lotta Pool. A lot of interest and now you have TV rights. That are going to be up and and those people are going to give up some of that power just to accommodate major league soccer there. There's a multitude of things and variables here that people that make this. Sorta statements do not take into consideration. Relegation Promotion. How do you establish that in a country in which that doesn't exist as part of the sports culture in the United States? That doesn't exist now. You have to establish that you have to put it in. Make make sure that that people are into that and one that is part of their reality. Well good luck with that as well. There's so many things here that don't quite add up other than the fact that League. I make us what to say when we won that money and the US and mls for that matter saying you know what it opens up different market for us. If I'm on the list I'm not touching that because I'm thinking that I can grow on my own think of the growth of MLS since one thousand nine hundred eighty six to where we are. Now you don't need league. I make us to continue to grow. What you need to do. Is Have Success at the international level. Have Success in the regional competition. But you don't need league I make these two to tag along with you. You can grow on your own if you believe that what you're doing is correct and the steps that you have taken and the structure of the put into the League are correct. I'm hearing Ethan Kit. My happened with a solid. No meanwhile the New England revolution our announcing that old time team and who will coach rose seven occasions. Nine thousand nine thousand two thousand eleven raise the longest tenured head coach in club. History Steve Nicol welcome to the reds time. Hey beautiful it's my favorite picture of the bone combo pack. Donald say. Obviously you talked to a lot of people who played on this TV and everyone sees same sort of gratitude towards there's only one. Tv NICKEL ALEC hundred could attest to this. You played against those New England teams and maybe necessarily they didn't have the vest team and sort of where it's very beatable style of play. But they were the most difficult teams to play against. Every player. Knew what that team was about who they're playing. They had that stevie nickel DNA to them but most difficult teams you would ever play would be those Stevie Nicholson's for sure the athletes off that he had some good players. But I think what he did best. Stevie is that he created a bond and a relationship with players. That players would do anything for a statement. The players respect the Stephen Ankle to the point to where when it was time to do their job day would do their very best trying to please deviate when you have that connection. It wasn't just hey. I'm the boss here. The players look yes. I'm the boss but I understand having been a player where you are and this is what I need from you and I think one of the things that players appreciate for it from the fact that he is as we know very well because we deal with him on a daily basis a very honest man yes and and players above all they re they respect that from their managers. I'll only echo who can see and there's what he wants TV Nicholas God for that is indeed only one st. Hey by the way go to. Espn DOT COM of course a lot of stories developing throughout the last few days regarding the corona virus. And how he's being treated in this continent and Bichon to check out is the news of Bulls breaks over the upcoming days. Remind if you have missing show when a cab shot with some Of Youtube content to go to the website and subscribed meanwhile gab a Gallo could be a permanent member of the mansion is scored his parent club. Shanghai apparently asking fifteen million pounds for the move to be made permanent. The thing to remember here is the Manchester United. Do not need to make a decision now. In fact they would make no sense for them to make a decision. Now I mean. We saw what's happened when they've made decisions early. Vis-a-vis like book today about one. I don't know that this goes through because as as effective as Gao has been. You know you're talking about fifty million pounds for guy who's thirty years old and he's on a good salary so it's all about resource allocation. They said they were going to go. Younger my guess. Is that the rational thing to do. Would be wait and see where you are? Come June or whenever the the season actually ends and the transfer window begins. Would you make this move permanent? Shocker I would guess fifteen million yes I think shoot enough that he can give you something different and then price assume formula inside is totally fine that price. It works great girding zone and that's fine. I'm by the way plenty of stuff from seat. Lower over on the website showed a check that out took him out. Fernando event whether it was the love of the game oil just to get out of the house Mark Alter the seven ten of English for which is continuing by the way this fine of the corona virus is experience over on the website. Be SURE TO CHECK OUT THE OBSTACLE. Meanwhile extra time has always available over on our Youtube Channel yesterday we talked about facial hand Julian and manscaping as a way finding with all the big issue on. Espn Julian assange shit coinage. Ooh That was cool edition of extra time. Thank you for your tweets in no is there but we do have new music. Facts about people are not happy with the new move who made the decision changed extratime. Use it because it's awful. Go back to the old tune. Let me listen to a little bit. Brennan. It's pretty vanilla as an and just kind of also in charge of of all the music your fourteen. Who makes this? Who made that decision? I thought you made a decision. Who made the Lauren Director made the decision? So this is Lawrence Choice. You just learn under the bus IE directors as that. We have different. I may let this change. Does that does it change? Depending on the direct people who runs word is final and we got rights. That's me Verna all. It's not as you having Gab. Ooh and all the caveats depends on price blah blah blah team around him. But I would probably go with team. Oh verner a huge. He's a little more than a more versatile and a little more dynamic. What says you Allie. I say loud that penis. I think he's a better finisher than team over Perkins with us. You want to know what I think. Now what do you think I'm telling you that's so there's music selfish. How can these guys? Where is Sean or now? Though in the old time list for you is in the messy. Pele Maradona's group is battling than Kroth Sedan Beckenbauer. Corinne welcome to the table to good question. Let's see euros. How many doors have not for messy. He's definitely up there. I'd put them probably around five or six. I think he's better than wow for my for my like he's better than but not done and Zeon. Also that's full then isn't it? If I'm not mistaken I go. Let's see I'm GonNa go by the greatest player I've ever seen either. Go Messy okay. I do not failing. And then four resilient. I'M GOING TO DESCRIBE. He's absolutely right. He's absolutely right so you'd have Brazilian over Portuguese Rinaldo correct. Yeah what do you say you jumping into her froth faith in four but you have messy number one. What's your what's your point in trying to make it. I said the same four gets messy. One thought. Oh what's you're you want to be going to give you the answer? The question is where would you have? Renaldo and I say right but then you jumped in when you Brazilian. He said he couldn't think of the fault. Or I'll see you just jumped in so I helped him out. That's what friends do. You've been friends anything with friendly. Just know who is for the Miami days. Don't bring up the well. Let me think the DOLE GOP only thing. I would have a Portuguese Rinaldo ahead of Brazilian Rinaldo. So is that was on fourth. Say is in. We've holding more information because I wanNA avoid the risk of self incrimination from Some of the people out there is in the most on a group. Whose TABLE IS HE HAVING. Dinner at shot. Yes yes yes yes. He's in is in that group with the other four okay. We're going to the three crews a suit against America. I want to know who should support since this the only match on today. What's the background between the two clubs? Keep it quick. That's easy if you're a longtime suffering fan in any sport go to the soul if you like cheering for the Yankees of the sport or the uniteds or at Madrid's Mantica that simple. If the current hiatus continues then which are the classic matches the crew would suggest for Rerun Tobago. Sweden was classic. Yeah sitting in Shane. Yes yeah now what you'll notice. Well Heck I can't remember the snow game against Costa Rica Mines on its eighty one zero the snow classical Costa Rica in Denver North. Your moment was turn onto against Sweden Mil Mil okay excellent. What about two thousand six Open Cup? Fc Dallas against the Houston Dynamo. Where might have been a low moment for you given that I scored on your show? Well maybe we should. Fa Cup final as well. One of the best ever West time against Liverpool Fred Charon. I`Ma gap data is just funny. 'cause I assume that at some point Hollywood have scored against shocker. But I just wondering it feels like it's the second time in three days that he's reminded us. I wonder if this is just coincidence or without without ever having mentioned it for for for years before that that was difficult. Is it to me every day. We were out of that very question last time we were together next. You mentioned mentioned a lot a gap that we should be rewatching question. Oh I mean I think a lot of this depends who you support from the neutrals perspective storage match also named by FIFA as the greatest ever would be the semi finals of the Nineteen Seventy World Cup. Italy and Germany won't tell you how that how that finished but I think most people enjoyed the ending. None of us were born back then. It's definitely worth checking out from a neutral perspective. I was there Ac on like nineteen seventy of course but the bowl final between Milan and Liverpool hides just a ton of drama and talk about ebb and flow games. Going one way or the other way. I think that would that would definitely be be up there. Also the Real Madrid Manchester United Game. The one at Old Trafford in two thousand and two. I WANNA say the one. Which is the Redonda rewind or something or it's definitely up there with the original Rinaldo Doing the show. You mean the guy that you put below Portuguese for that one. I got good at Newcastle. Full they did you play in any of that was three back to back. Three four threes about that when somebody liberal. I flew over at the time I was there. Really good In Argentina England eighty six World Cup. You like that one right. Nice I'd say will cut canes. Oh well Don Castle. Well Hey I'm trying to say gold. That's all I'm saying. Take who is the most underrated player on the MLS? My In my head says right. Now it's GonNa be Nikolaos Eight. Oh but I'm GONNA go with evidence of New York City. I've see he's got something like twenty. Three Games. Played in. Eighteen Games scored behind Joseph Martinez. Who unfortunately went with ACL? He's my number two in that Golden boot race. Should I listen to finish in the balance door instead of dying shacking? That's without yesterday. Remember his correct. Yes and you were incorrect way. Stephen admitted that allison is more important than van. Dyke Stephen said that that's because steamy is not over what had been intended fleet just yet. He has that fresh mind. Cool is more important than everybody else. But that's right. You see very moody. Today let's talk. Listen that's literature showing you. What's a good book to read? During all this downtime Gamma Kodama. Genial systems available legend in the basement even have as I mentioned my into my own book the the Italian job with a Germaphobe Nada biography journey to the heart of two great footballing cultures. Other books obviously Nick Hornby resonates with a lot of people like your tactics go with Jonathan. Wilson's inverting the pyramid. Also of course five league titles. Very good book is voluntarily as mentioned shocker in his as well read that for fun or read the books that you recommend pep Guardiola. There's another way winning a good book last book on football that I've read sucker economic. I'm telling you talker NOMEX. Oh sorry I'm sorry guy. I don't want to give people muddled between the many books out there software economics soccer all of them written by the same guy. Thanks God by We can kill each other off for me. I needed that correction. That made my day. We're getting houses around the world and interesting book by the way. Oh that's good I got. Espn NFC overboard book. 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Futbol Americas: Who can replace Pulisic & Zardes for upcoming WC qualifiers?

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Futbol Americas: Who can replace Pulisic & Zardes for upcoming WC qualifiers?

"It's that time again. Our man on the of the little league world series but don't threats the dp is back mao how you doing. I'm doing well again. Like we said on thursday. I always think of cbs. A big leaguer. It's our very own bigger. He's amazing job as always williamsport Plenty to talk about. This is an important weaker. The kings finally here major league soccer stars versus lita amex starts and we have a fantastic guest today. I believe he's a friend of yours isn't he. Oh yeah he's a friend who it is. I know who is the best goalkeeper illegal. I make us over the last ten years. It's now who's on it but tangles patten will join us a little bit later on the show remember. You can also download football because podcast is dropping tomorrow so make sure to check it out as well but let's get started. There's a bit of a head scratch for usa men's national team coach gregg berhalter with recent news christian pulisic tested positive for covy nineteen. He posted on instagram. He has no symptoms is fully vaccinated but but for government protocols. He has to be isolated for ten days. He missed the game against arsenal chelsea by the by the way warned that game. Easy and jesse's artists also out columbus crew confirmed he had the soft tissue. Injury will be sidelined between two and four weeks. The coca catholic. Techno geeks up. September second national team will play at el salvador then hosting canada and then visiting honduras hurt. How big of a loss is this for the team. It's a huge loss. Let me start off with jesse. Really quickly get him out of the way before. We talk about christian but jesse regardless of of what you think about josse. Whether it's a sloppy touch weather he's mls and then what does attach their. He's the most productive night. It's that simple. He's your most productive nine in a pool of nine. That's not been very productive. Nobody has really stood out from the rest of the pack. So this one's gonna hurt. Because greg gave them a lot of chances and he's played a lot during with greg. So you know that. Greg values entrusts them now. Christian pulisic is the face of the us. Men's national team christian pulisic is coming off a career year where he won the champions league where he won the super copa where he's scoring goals coming off. The bench are starting where he's been productive player the conquered nations league versus mexico where he also scored a goal. It's a career year for forum and to have this happen right now right before qualifiers. We don't know the timeline. We don't know if you'll be available that first game. We don't know what the capacity of that will be. So this is a huge impact it impacts the way you can play it impacts. Maybe the morale of the team. Now knowing your best player won't be there a leader on this team. A captain on this team so yeah. It's a huge impact. So let's let's just remember this h. International break will consist of three games and rosters can be can consist up to twenty five players. Right so you do have some options. And let's let's focus on christian pulisic and just try to picture to the next scenario if he's not available then who's up next. Who takes his place that's to be next manned up correct and it's a very inexperienced international player in brendon. Aaronson but brendan aaronson has been so good for you lately. Bredesen's big and been good in whatever competition you play him and he's twenty years of age he's already got three goals three assists on. Us men's national team scoring goals as of late versus barcelona in champions league qualifying. He seems to be a good and he seems to be a player. That's not fazed by the moments productive anywhere you put him on the field and he's a guy that can come in for christian and do a good job any very difficult because you're gonna remember you're playing two of the three games away. Any seems like a player. That doesn't mind rolling up as sleaze but has the technicality. Has a technical savvy has the attributes to where there's a chance a possibility in front of the net. You feel confident about him. Putting that away because organized you this question as well because with christian pulisic he gives you many options. He's obviously goes quarter from the wings as well. So what do you think. Greg berhalter's best option is just in terms of a christian. Pulisic is not around. If he's not available is committee goalscorer. Is he missing a facilitator agricole creator it. So it's not. It's not a clear cut answer. Oh yeah this guy subs in if ballistic is missing out so you mentioned aaronson. Is this someone else you want to add to that list you can add a gene arena moving centrally. You could do. And then you could put brennan and emerson but it's gotta be by committee. You're going to have to share that load. Nobody can do really with christian. Pulisic can do. Nobody can offer all the fattest of his game like christian pulisic so hasn't yet committed but the us ms gnashing doesn't have that global superstar very rarely do countries have that global superstar that messy that renaldo that lukaku the you know. We'll change games by himself so it's going to be by committee anyways and especially if the two of the three games are on. The road are way in hostile confines. One of the good things for the us. Men's national team is that i came in and because of the covert protocols are actually going to be no fans in that stadium so that could be a big plus for a lot of these players who haven't played in that type of setting. Okay so let's go to the games and let me take out. My calculator have a catholic right here. Let's again bring this scenario. Nope ballistic around for the us. Men's national team. How many points can i pencil the team in for those three games without seeing four six weeks without seeing what is the twenty five man roster. Yeah is that what they're gonna do. Twenty five men twenty five. Okay without the twenty five minute roster. I would say six points would be great anything to bug above six points. Fantastic a that should be the goal because you assume salvador with no crowd against a team. That's the remake. Even though they've been very good undergrad. But as you can win. It's a very winnable game. But then you're gonna play on us. And i've seen with my own eyes. European players like timmy. Chander melt under the sun. I've seen how difficult to be plane in those conditions with the fan base. Right on top of you with the grass coming to your knees. It's not an easy place to play. So let's assume you drop points. They're you drop it and you don't win of right. Yes always the first game. It's a little questionable for canada. Canada in nashville canada's my dark course in the tunnel. There's such a very good team can really cause some problems. We've seen how good they can be this goal cup before the good players. They have imagined they have iphones. Dave's man they have if they have a you can in collini. Kyle kyle aaron. The list goes on and on. They're going to be very difficult to handle. But that's also a w couldn't wall that this well the should and could you should be no world cup weren't if she goes one one one four points. How terrible right. But i'm not completely surprised the issue here okay. So i like the six point prediction. I think you should be six point. At least you can drop a game if you drop a game. Either in on dudas or salvador happens to everyone. Just go back and mexico. How many points they have or they want under one right before like yeah sixteen years without winning their hopefully simple as it will be in good condition to come and play now. Let's go back to france very very disturbing scenes at a game between knees eminem peak marseille actually conduct dilatory air. Sorry earned a corner kick. Look at what happened to dmitry. Pyatt offense threw a bottle at him he throws it back at the stance and then kirk is just chaos fights all over the place fence into the pitch security guards own able to control the situation. The game had to be first postponed. Believe all wanted and actually ordered the game to resume only big marseille and rightfully. So they said there are no guarantees. Our safety is not guaranteed so they forfeited their match. Where you see the scenes and let's not forget. This is the league. That is gonna track a lot of new fans because lionel messi plays per freeze for freeze german. This is only say manager. What do you make what happened yesterday. In france so conrad elephant actually one that corner and i think this is his fault because he's so good at skinny people. Earning things in the final third This is what conrad does speaking. Honestly seriously i just about a week ago. Come off. Seeing that netflix special untold the mollison the palace and for those fans. That don't know you're too young in the early. Two thousands detroit played the pacers in an nba game and a fan launched a drink at run our test. A basketball player and in this player went into the stands and if full fledged fight broke out the same thing happened. It could have been much worse that capacity. That seems like thirty six thousand. How do you control thirty. Six thousand people trying to come onto the field. You saw very little security there. You saw the security guards. Try and do what they could but there was still fans and players having altercations now if you follow us on social media you've seen the photos the images of the players who were pretty badly injured drain hunches. It was it was kicks. Were other material thrown at them. And this the first time it's happened. These ultras are out of control and they should. They should be in some shape way performed reprimanded. So we ask the question. Who's at fault. Obviously there's a lot of people who have responsibility when something like this happens but the fact that a fan was able to throw a bottle at a player and then a group of fence storming the pitch obviously security has to be at full for not being to to control that but then we also saw what happened with olympic marseille. Coaching staff not only horizontally instead of trying to control things to come players down. There were still trying to fight either fans or players from needs so heavy. Punishments are on their way. Because there has there has to be someone has to be made an example of what happened. We cannot see those seats and we. We've seen in soccer. We've seen it in basketball. We've in baseball. Mather defense returned to the stadiums. There's something going on but that needs to be under control. You can't be an idiot if you're a fan. Just don't be an idiot. I go back to this to this netflix. A malice in the palace is they should have prosecuted that fan. This all starts because the fan assaults a player now once the fans are in the court or on the field these players go into survival mode. You're just seeing this chaos. Go around you have no idea what's going to happen. You think you're fighting for your life type thing it's terrible. I agree terrible scenes but you have to put the onus on security on the fans these players if you wanna find fine. I'm sure they will take the fine over. Something really bad happened yet. In any case is bet again. Let's just remember unit missy. One of the most important players history is going to be a part of this league very very soon. let's run it back. We have good action coming out of germans. Third division this terrorist boyd for polish f. Say the finish for the game winner. Terence is still very young guys. Love the celebration. Little tattoos celebration politic. He's a young guy trying to get back get healthy. Lots of knee injuries. He was with me in the national team. Good guy and i'm glad to see him still scoring goals. Yeah good move by the way. See that going to his left. And then the grit finish in germany. make gone news in action news turkey. Luciano made his season. Debut came coming off the bench play twin minutes. Look good her after his head injury during the gold cup that that very bad neck injury also nasty cut above his right eye. Any was involved in this. Go looking at driving down the the heart of the attack and then right here fortunate. Yes but still involved. Still very dangerous very vertical. This is what he does. He causes danger yet. Look quick i again only twenty minutes but the time line was actually Better than we thought it was going to be. You had collision during the golca. So good news for all also good news for a level gone completed another night minutes. Walser not doing well and actually miss a couple of chances but the good news is he's looking healthy and it's looking like he's going to be called by tom. Martino for the world cup qualifiers of reports out of mexico that he will be called up for the next qualifiers. The world cup qualifiers. Hokey minutes looks healthier every time we see him. And we're not the only ones who think that we're not the only ones who are happy to see him back. rubber plant. Oh it's just the the lead vocal for the best rock and roll band in the world and history. Let's separate bag at last ephemeral humanities. I'm framing that tweet. Go straight to my living room. Get to see a shout out and also backing action. Also making his season debut caught between rumors of for transfer i e and now to a similan finally played twenty minutes at one one draw to at married most. Look at that pitch not not in the best condition again are still some days to go into transfer window not completely sure that by the end of a very difficult position that man right there. Who's coach not happy. They can't use them not happy that they're trying to sell them. Here's the thing. He's twenty nine years old and asking for thirteen million so far not a lot of a lot of rumors but not a lot of takers. Acme land rumor. Seems like it's coming from that. Got pitas agent than an actual interest by a c milan. So going back to national team play and the upcoming qualifiers. That is that that he then they get under the sticker tito shuki role. Do you expect them to start against first game vs jamaica. You know this is. This is funny because A couple of weeks so our producer bet though brought up the possibility of being called up and sebastian. And now you're crazy. There's no way who called up. Have you seen him in the precinct. Call up producer crazy. Police never never lesson learned but learn but but he ended up being right now. We're hearing reports of him being called up and now we're talking about. Will he start. If you're not about three games you have you've got jamaica foam then you're going away to. What is it going away to jamaica at home right. Yes and then playing canada at home right so those by the way they game against jamaica no lows door fans at go way. They're going to jamaica at home and you're thinking closed doors. It's going to be easier for them. Maybe the altitude will cost them. But i don't want to start him in his first time inc. Costa rica hostile environment very difficult game. And then i don't wanna play him the next game because i main points so i may need those points. I may need a result. I don't want to put the onus of them so the safest game for him to play is the first game and you know everybody wants to see that. He menace that dan marino. We'll be under so much pressure to humanists in in that starting lineup. because he's playing primarily because of the level he was before that unfortunate accident back in november with wbz's so i expect them the plate. Yes expedition him to start the first game. I expect at least to start for one. Main reason again. The number nine position is is look. Okay was he. Decisive was heat clinical. No he was not and you can have a player. Not being clinical. Not being a his best during nations league or during goal cuff. You cannot allow yourself to start slow at the coca catholic tag on so you need your best players or you need your players in best four best shape i do wonder about. Our human is because head injuries. Going to mexico city's altitude. They long travel. It's never easy but again it's also a tough decision for that amati. No he's going to want those three points very bad and that is his best number nine. Remember two thousand fourteen under under that japan. Do you remember who they started. Off the qualification process versus. What's what's the jamaica. As well and that was very complicated process was a tire ended up losing by remember who guaranteed a spot for mexico before the grams. Uzi goal. But i with that. Bicycle kick goal against panama panama. And it's tellus also question mark with a corona. Because he's future. It wouldn't be the first time that he misses action deciding. He's future staying home and tried to figure out he's future. It happened to him four years ago. Hopefully history warm repeated on textile will be available for the mexican national team. Let's go back to conquer gaffe mickey's and specifically chiba us. In but i yeah. Those monterey weeks scoreless draw between monterey and chavez but hurt the big topic. Victor manuel boosted his as his job in jeopardy third game in a row she was not scoring four games in a row. Not winning a game. They've only won one game. This season against what is in. You know how terrible qantas has been this season. They've only scored four goals going forward very little creativity. It's a team. That's supposed to be a heathen that he only focus mandate but they don't play like should we be surprised. Look at the last four years. Paul seasons they've not finished tired the seven place normally on the outside looking at full seasons because when a pandemic started ten games into the season that we're fifth-place and then they stopped the season they start seven games to go so you don't know how it ended up but normally on the outside looking in and the best. They've finished seventh place. So this is they are. This is this is us in a nutshell and if it's not going to be recovered relies because he certainly not gonna lead. It's going to be big domino's to teach mike campaign. my hashtag got achieve us a motivated. Got up the owner plea. Jesus as it is not going anywhere. I'm not getting it. He's not even by her. So here's a question. If his time is up a chiba. Let's remember international. Briggs are actually good time. Not saying it's good time for someone to lose his job but for clubs if they wanna make a change. This is actually when things do happen. That's what happened. Last time is what happened last exactly and there are reports by our espn reporters in cuda genital. Sunil the manager at the olympic games for the for the mexican team. He's in line for that job. So who should be the next manager. Eve busa actually loses his place. You could do much worse than hyman lassana. High millage san jamila san jose very young coach and we talk about mexican football. And how they don't give these young mexican coaches a chance. how they're always stale. They go back and recycling refill to the same coaches on on and on and they don't give these guys a chance. Give him a chance of that. Said he's a guy right now with a lot of credit a lot of egland that already very brief time for years ago at thirty about thirty five thirty. Six games akkad. That'll it didn't go that well. He was first time coach four years later. He's got a lot of equity built up for what he did with that national team by the way. What are your lantana. He was there lexi's. He was the best player for mexico at the olympics. Vera china said these young core of players that he can build that he can mold and we know what to expect chiba because of the limitations on the us mexican players. Does it different market for them. Hi melissa understands is harmless gives these young players a chance. And it's a very attractive brand for the fans so you could do worse than milano. Let me stop you right there. Because i agree. Chiba should look into lozano to be their new manager east. He's he's the manager right now. He actually quit the national team looking for a better opportunity. Now here's my question for you is actually a good opportunity for jimmy directive. Enough for the manager this hut because if if it's not going to happen with gruesome or mega but he can actually just relax sit down and just balances options. Ichi was really a good option for and he's future. It feels like a trap situation is right but better worst. You take it. If you're hyman lozano because of the risk reward let's say it doesn't go well like one of the last stone well right it got but if it does all you need to do is go well for you. Once and your legendary achieves a massive club look at look at right. Now is with san jose. He had more bad seasons than good seasons but enough to set lasting impression because he was what did win in that time. He's a legend at us. That could be high. Menlo sign on hyman lozano's got so much upside into the risk reward is in his favourite better worse. I do this if i'm hanging. There was also a report by one of espn reporters that the one of the reasons why jima luciano decided not to coach anymore. At the under twenty three level was he was looking for an opportunity similar to what happened to natural breeze in the second division club in spain. So here's my question for you. What's more attractive to coach in spain. Second-division or be the new manager of us. I don't know if the question is attractive. But more important okay for him probably second-division because if you do well they're the jump is is higher you reach. You cast your net in a different way than if you do. Well chiba do cheetahs. You're a big fish small pond you do. Well they're all of a sudden you're in the you're in. The big wide ocean and the possibilities are endless. And i'm sure that's what he wants to do. That's the great thing about this new generation of not only mexican players but these young mexican coaches who want to test themselves at the highest levels. Yeah so we'll see what happens at cheetah's again international break coming up that might be the and four l. busey picked on will teach major league soccer action the way we do it at america's the good the bad and the ugly bob tito. Hey four game winning streak we kind of sun looking from the sweet and another victory for us. Landa you call bob. You're bobby bobby. Eight games in charge and the confidence was key of what he changed. A terribly run team. He had players praying with freedom. He brought the swagger back to atlanta botox modano. Your big players responded like big players botoco by the way plane. Like i've probably never seen him. Joseph martinez got angry. And you let the tiger out of the cage four goals under you. It's a different atlanta team. And if i'm gonna silopi nether. I'm sending this man a case of beer. Oh yeah at least hates. It was writing bad. Houston dynamo my goodness street. Now up to fourteen games. Last in the standings western conference standings nineteen points. It's not looking great. Fourth abramowicz team crazy thing is tie ten times this season ten ties you could tell team is not only by the record and the winless kick but look at the dp situation designated player situation. They've got a guy named teenage deb. A central defender. Zimbabwe reportedly earning more than a million dollars a season. You spend over a million dollars a season undefeated or major the second you are crazy and whereas winking terror your other dp where is he who hundred eighty nine minutes. He's played awfully. See the lose again. I don't know the boggy year is the fact. That god's left the game early. Another injury had six minute mark. Wow yeah lose. Agai- willis in now seven. Here's the worst part. They've dropped points in eight poem games this year. Branka california and you know this. You know this maladies. You're from here in los angeles. You've done it plenty of games. It used to be a fortress. It used to be a place where very difficult to get results. If you're an opponent's it's not like that anymore. You have to ask what is going on. Why is it gone from bad to ugly in los angeles. Yeah so is it a roster thing because there have been many many many roster changes recently players coming in going or or is it bob bradley. Yeah is the time to consider bradley. Isn't that seat. Now let me tell you why the production and modesitt look this way. When they asked a question they know. I have a saas stopper brad. Because they respect the half of bob jersey being coached by bradley in a proper footballing culture. This wouldn't be a question bob With most likely begun. But we're not in a pro- proper footballing culture. We're in major league soccer and major league. Soccer wet the halfway mark and nobody loses or gets fired at the halfway mark with that resume. And that's a reality. Now beyond the coaching i ask myself. And you brought this up the roster. Yeah what is going on that. Your pillars your strength. The players should be mainstays never stay. They ended up leaving. We can go back and look at the list of beta shores of walkers zimmerman's of the goalie situation laurent simone. Who was your captain of players. Who have been there like benny foul harbor lee win and list goes on and on and are he. Now danny kaye. You think you should be building around these players. And it's not so i ask what is going on in l. Afc what is going on with. John thornton bob reilly. The coaching staff with these players aren't stain. That's what i wanna know. And there were also some executives leaving the club so it's at every single level in this stability right now and it's weird because this this seem like everything you wanted from new club right good ownership good management great coach fantastic players but somehow things are not clicking right now. I wonder. I wonder what our good friends so of. What what as would be to. This question is about bradley on the huts it. what do you think should he on. The hot seat just answered proper football in culture to. Here's here's the thing though. Here's the thing. He's got the resume he's got the equity built up for what they've done in los angeles and their brief history and they are with a game in hand three points out of that playoff line. It's the midway point and trust me. I've been in seattle sounder side. Who was nowhere near that. Play off line at the midway point. Who did fire their coach and got to see a season turnaround. Now i think bob radic could still turn around this season because of his resume. But you have to ask yourself at some point as well. What is bob brata like. Why does he want to continue down this road now. I agree with what you just said. I believe he can do it because the other questions we have to ask ourselves says okay. If bob bradley is not able to do it then who is right right. If you wanna fire someone it means that you have a better option waiting shit. Who who's manager. I don't think we have an answer for that. All right Speaking of teams in in a good strict. What about miami. Either miami again winning at home for the fourth game in a row by the way it looking like the best birchenough himself scoring twice the smile mile is back. The joker is back the jokers back. He's looking like that talented player. That brought him off at miami up. And what eight asks named an all star also. Great timing because guess we'll sit around the corner for up qualifiers you go. What a time. goodness's by the wayne and we'll see the reaction from david beckham a little later. This is a fantastic fantastic. Robbie robinson just called up by the chilean national team national alert. Ask people crazy and now look at this run by. He looks fit. He looks fast. He's in good shape nice. Finish and then. I don't know if we'll see. David beckons reaction but he was. He was fired off book. I think we'll we'll take a look a little bit later on the show orlando's city playing inter myemma this friday on espn and espn portis. Still part of rivalry week but before that columbus versus cincinnati Who's calling that game on. Espn the kirk douglas. I think we'll get. We'll be the goal for that game. I think almost joseph found out it's here ladies and gentlemen emily's all star game. Let's start with the not great news on that appears gene. Yuck and now. It's officials to ask today to jerry to- guidelines villa. They are out guard is also out. Buchanan is out which is obviously a bummer. Because we were looking forward to a on wednesday hurt everybody but buchanan due to injury which makes me wonder can't wears the app. Yep he's gone he's gone. he's going to be sold. That's confirmation for. I'll be a junior. He'll what is going on. All the stars players i told you during our own coney. Espn reporters Major league soccer is still in time to change the name of the game from amyloid all-stars to mls very good players versus league. Mickey's very good players. Because starpower as actually lacking from this. It's gotta be the league versus. Mls starring players. Start my starring. These players major league soccer used to be modise. Co it used to be big name if anything. It was big in name not too long ago. You had slot them not too long ago. You had frank lampard you had andrea had cherry on react guy got the list would go on and on and on into its history your kaya go on and on mobile stars validation a global stars and now all of a sudden we're finding ourselves in a moment where where's the star power. We're has a gun. And maybe that's a good thing book for an mls all star game. They're touting against league all stars we're the league all stars were the star power at this game if i'm going to spend hundreds of dollars because that's what ticket costs are. That's what it's gonna cost if you wanna ticket at the beautiful bank of california stadium. Hundreds of dollars. Who am i going to go see. Why should anybody outside of this market. Pay attention to the all star game. Why would anybody in europe get up for this. Who am i going see. So there's a major league. Soccer is always big on making the and making the league global right and we just saw the clips many efforts by bringing the most important clubs in the world athletic aviv manchester united. If the admiralty play major league soccer all-star now this is a different approach. Because it's also part of the business to be in this relationship with league mickey's so we don't know if this is going to be a yearly thing. If every mls all star game will also veep versus. League make is also. We don't know that but for now we do have to ask ourselves as questions. Who are the stars for this game. If you're asking me to pick a star from one of the teams go to the team says welcome right. Which which team has star. Biggest star is ninety That's the biggest globalstar right now in this function in this game it's ninety. It's a player who doesn't play anymore for the portuguese. National t. he hasn't featured in a huge club in quite some time but has history manchester united so people around the globe. Well know who he is even if they don't consider him this crazy global star. He's the closest thing to start power. You have in this game. So if i had asked you this question years ago even three years ago yes that would have been the right answer. And i would've agreed with you but considering what major league soccer is looking for right now considering the market is amply right now the biggest star is memo and sees guillermo for sure. Are you telling me memo chose a bigger star than ninety. So i'll tell you this twenty five thousand fans that bank stadium that most recognizable face during the game is talk. I need and you get ninety face each other. I don't know. pk or something like that people. More people will know who memo choice than nanny. I can assure you that who outside of this market is going to get to see memo joa. I don't know. But that's that's exactly why i'm saying for this specific game where he's very clear that priority number one is the relationship. Major league soccer is. The biggest. Star is memoir. You could be right on that. Here's here's my issue with. If that's true that's true. You've created this all star game and you've made it niche. You made something that's already niche. Even more niche actually accurate. So that's terrible. Way about going and trying to expand their global brand which it sends a confusing message your major league soccer which. I'm sure they're used to because as you know. There's this all star rule right. You're so right it is. It is a shame that we're not gonna see ito gatos. Bela genia league. i make. He's bought considering what you said. There is a rule right. It's not. I don't know if it's going to be enforced or not now that they are officially out but we have traffic coming up and galaxy loss at home l. Afc as we just mentioned a very bad street so both managers will wonder players to be available. But they're not able to. Okay let's explain. The roy came into attention recently with slab. Brahimi twenty. didn't wanna play on turf. He misses the all star game. They penalize them and he doesn't play against colorado the very next game they ended up losing slot and actually had this to say people are interested in different things. They lose on it. They said they lose on it and for me. It doesn't matter so he's talking about people are interested in different things. The priority for major league soccer right here is these players. We need to sell this with these players. If they don't want to help us sell they're not gonna play the next game unfortunately. Guess what the next game is is tropical exactly on. This has been battling the clock battling injury for last two. Plus months is now in a fight against time to try to get healthy for that game knows comes out injured and the sixteen th minute now. He's a fight against time for that game. The two biggest stars league has two biggest stars. This rivalry has a marquee rivalry in this league. Were now not play because of this. Very dumb rule. Alex is trying to make a quick quick memory exercise. And i don't know if they have faced each other at any traffic because last year during the tournament in orlando carlos. Villa was not part of that. I made you got hurt. And now this season when they faced each other there were also so chatty though i think he's been a part of just one one game scored on that when you're right and they are the two biggest stars specially for this market so again it's just have to see what what the league does in terms of enforcing which by the way. Greg vanney was very vocal last thursday saying it would be completely. It would be hard to understand if he's player who hasn't been available for the past. Ten league gains it was actually made available for the all star game. We already know. That's not gonna be the imagine we won't see nor is part of these festivities in the skills challenge and part of the game. They won't be there to try to help you sell the league. I'm sure that's not going to be the case. If you're going to penalize them that way right that i'm guessing i'm guessing that's not going to be. There's not going to be the case but then the case we're going to have to wait and see right and we now welcome goalkeeper. Now welcomes men now. Well gu's men with elena football. I make her plenty to talk about with them. Yeah we're going to do this. You're gonna ask the questions in spanish. Yes sir i will. Quickly john sutcliffe style. Yes in english. So can you ask him. This games got a lot of attention grabbing right now. What will this all star versus league. Game prove okay. Coolest capital delete. I make easiest. Many welcome to the show those some blessed buoyed by the by the bit get on your window molasses assume massa shiloh go three hydrocare represent competency encima s whenever moindre or dog fomento data show the gay market asean don donald the modem e. So would i meant this was originally an is an and we also boy tara and noble sanal e. You could okay. I moved to material. But i wanna dog will only in the upper and lower body. You only in dog represent dial ellen number scenario not to your set about their biddle muscle now linda. He says that in personally. He's very proud to be part of this. Sporting wise is going to be very nice competition both and it continued building relationship. But what is the two leagues now. I've always wondered. He's such a good goalkeeper and goalkeeper. That always captivates people. 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We would've see during this match. Fide out sunday ten thirty pm eastern on espn also in istanbul and espn. Bit border tastes portland. Thorns playing only big leona women's international championship morgan. Weaver had five minutes coming up the winner. Lynn that's what you call impact somehow dollar little redirection here. Nice little control keeper kind of no-man's-land. This is violence critical. And it sets up. The goal could finish the owner role. Third straight trophy for the team. Merritt paulson in the portland thorns. They've got something special going on. Yeah and only be known as one of the best teams in the world by the way both all by the way. Congratulations portland thorns in another very well earned victory news coming out of austin cd football club. They have a new stadium. Angels buddy sorry sorry manages the aac me. They have any coach and they have third the first player. What a player all. Yeah kristie peretz greece debris announcement trade with resting louisville. And you want to make an impact right as a new team around. That's exactly what you do. Criticize christen press which impresses one of the better. Us women's national players around thirty two years old already a two-time world cup winner to time olympian and coming back home to her hometown of la. That's right that's right angel cd football club. Let's go to our top ten heard and we what a way to start off top ten. Look at this goal. It's ashland ashley. Harrison finished right here. It's left put in cuts her up and boom drops a bomb on the goalkeeper nothing goalkeeper do throw a glove added if you want your reaching that you're not catching that cash. It's like shaking of the defender and then an amazing finish. Yes this word number nine. I'll bet gooseneck blood. By the way. I played the europe recently. And look at this finish. Wow this is difficult for a forward to have to come back on it. So how old is run comes back to it. And then unleashes it william. You are rose having a very good season. Nothing he can about this. When rose neck with the goal number eight yuki nagaa sat to look at what the production gave scoring alachua lodging feed. I any very complicated maneuver to the finish shirt by munich. By the way she gets a very awkward. Finish on this. It's like an step finish and puts it in the dow off the crossbar and in she's even surprised by it but it's also do you remember goal versus belgian ninety. I was that was outside the foot. Right yep buca goes to the ground. No problem recovered himself and then small dribble and a good finishes the rope with dope. Like i'm hurt. I don't stop blair's nice. Little drag across definitive drags it with the left the right than just a simple finish. That was filthy. Adam booze can number seven or top ten football america's number six robbie robinson you mentioned him before great display speed control attracted better goodbye number one draft pick in inter miami history and now he's going to be called up by jeanette for the world cup. Qualifiers comes out of nowhere. We have another dual national situation. What he will do. I do not know what gregg berhalter was do. That is your guest but a player to keep an eye on is still looking for robert. Robinson number five ashley sanchez shake defender and to the square dirty. Things like a celebration by the way touch and it comes in left and right brought home in between what are you gonna do. Can't keep her. How many goals did you score from outside the books quite a few and never never looking stylish like this with some force. Yeah that's why i asked the question. I don't even watch every single every single. Okay all older. Three goals scored quiz sullivan. He only scores go. Last was hurt scores. 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Futbol Americas: U.S. and Mexico's final preparations for the CONCACAF Nations League

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49:46 min | 3 months ago

Futbol Americas: U.S. and Mexico's final preparations for the CONCACAF Nations League

"The forty four years almost twenty four years modise for us all to win their first league. Titles in nineteen ninety-seven christian pulisic. It's a champions league and we finally get to debut this beautiful said. How are you my friend. Sal assad is on a much desert break in sarasota. We wish him well with his beautiful wife. But you're here the supersub. How're you doing my man. I'm here you're here. And i'm quoting the beatles right here and we are all together and this is awesome. It's no coincidence that i'm wearing blue. By the way congrats congrats to chelsea but now we have international soccer ahead of us. We're gonna have great show. Joan salt lake covering the mexican. National will be here julie. foudy diff- carlife. Follow the us men's national and so. I think we better start a show ahead because we have. The nations league is probably heard the longest tournament in history because he thought temper twenty eighteen. And we find them to reach the semi-finals the us national team will play on buddha. And mickey will flake star recap. So tell me about. The tournament stake in the nations league. It's about twenty point five inches long. It's a little trophy and that's what you get for winning this tournament. That's it don't let how heavy from what i know of eight kilograms that's out it is It doesn't mean much shirt it's bragging rights. Sure it's nice to be called a champion shorts to be called top dog in the region. Gangetic kabq off all those things that come with it. But this isn't like the gold cup. And how the gold cup will give you half a ticket to the confederations cup. And how if you won the next gold cup it'd be a full ticket or it'd be a playoff like we saw mexican. The states do you wouldn't have the confederation a champion title to. It's this made up tournament that they did in europe. I guess that comcast said you know what this is. Great and what's great about. It is all the other forty one countries or the countries in incan concha cap will benefit from it. Maybe the mexico's maybe the costa rica's maybe the united states and some other national teams won't be benefitted by its existence but these smaller federations they will so in that hence you're increasing the level and concacaf but only for the ones below you if you're one of the top teams in what is conquer calf. It's just another game. They're having many other attempts to raise concha. Cavs level unsuccessful attempts by the way and this is probably. This was a good idea. Obviously the pandemic head and people had to adjust teams had to adjust. But now we've you go and try to be in the shoes of managers like gregg berhalter or thematic theme. You might actually find something beneficial for your process. Yes and there's a beneficial part of this for the us national team. The work of qualifiers are just looming are going to be three game windows so we just had switzerland every every three or four days. You'll have a game so switzerland just happened. Now you have under is potentially a final down the road before days later. That's what the world cup cooper is going to be like. This is in a sense. A dry run for the national team. Mexico's head coach. She has said many times that he doesn't like playing conga caffeine's that often well he also had this to say about the semi-finals of the concacaf nations league what we only for looking for local power auto mobile phone day go Elena tokyo quarry pond. But it's the nation s official infant dara. Low thirty toilets because song paycheck is a beer limpert aboard who are to continue and so i think it's fair to say that does not happy of having to play concacaf nations. The and i think that last point is very important. He said we could have used this dates to play different kind of things now. I don't know if there was a chance to play european teams because they are also preparing for right. Now what do you make of those words. yeah i think we've heard this before we've had on out on gun. Espn espn afc. We've had your klinsmann. Eight of united plans been pre pandemic were. He spoke exactly about this. He said if you're mexico if united statements national humidity costa rica. You get nothing out of this nation. League's tournament yes. She called a waste of time. So he's into the choir. Yes ideally if you're one of the top teams in this federico consideration you would wanna play against european competition. You wanna play against south american competition but unfortunately south american competitions gearing up for robot medica european the euros. This is what you have a great. But they're having their own struggles. That's a different story now. As we said semifinals start today. Usa playing may coupling. Costa rica is it. Is it safe to say that luce the this will be the final of this tournament. I don't think it's a safe bet. I don't think anything anymore is a safe at least until the. Us men's nationally proves that it can be a safe bet we spoke lascaux about marquee wins. Four gregg berhalter and this team there are no marquee wins. Jurgen klinsmann had the first win ever in the history of the us. Men's national against mexico. He'd be germany italy holland all in europe. Bruce arena had his historic bob. Bradley had a historic wins. They ended up thirty five game run of the spanish national team that spanish national team in know the two euros. They won sandwich at the world cup in between so the last three managers have all had those marquee winds. We are still waiting for this marquee win from his team. Until so until they prove that until we can see the consistently. Excuse me can prove that. There are no givens and plus. They're facing an undue that seem to have some individual talent. yes player point or mental. Who up top is very good albert. Ellis who in transition these two players and ellis can be very very dangerous. The us proven the last three or four outings that they're not the most solid team defensively when it comes to defending transition defending teams with pace teams with a little bit more of physicality so that could be an issue and the other side mexico. They've got doubts as well as really puts a wrench and other plants. Yeah and we'll talk about that with. John sought live a little bit later on the show. He's following the mexican national team in denver. But now you mentioned a us national team you mentioned mexico and there's always pressure this is kind of a tournament at that. If you win it right. It feels like you're supposed to win it. You lose it then. The repercussions are big. Who's on the more pressure. The us national team or l. Three i understand what people are gonna say this. Us national team for the first time in a long time. I'm paying attention to what you're about to say so you've got players playing in the biggest clubs in the world. The biggest leagues one of their players. Just won the champions league. Julia players were in the champions league final. But it's mexico this. Us men's national team is poised for. What is the future. I don't think anybody expects anything today. Mexico is today. you have to win today. Because of their culture the whole country will be paralyzed. Time the mexican national team place There will be scrutinized. We judged that we analyzed the we put under a microscope and these players can't go further. They can't go far if it doesn't matter if it's in europe if they lose a game is supposed to win they will hear about it. They will be hounded the pressures immense for them. So i have a question for you. I agree mexico. They're more pressure. Not that much but a little bit but when will be what will be fair to say that the us ms national team won't be on their more pressure than mexico because we have spoken many many times about talent right expectations and this is supposed to happen lincoln. We actually start asking those questions and putting pressure on gregg berhalter and his team. I think the pressure has been put on gregg berhalter and the federation. I don't know about the team because the team's still very young they still haven't had those marquis games or wins that i've spoken about. But if you look at the year the thirteen months that was lost with an interim coach and interim coach took thirteen months to find a coach. Gregg berhalter been using that time or different coach. Whoever could have been using that time to get these players experience in his system with his dna his way. So does it feel like nobody expected a pandemic year. Nobody expected this but it doesn't feel like there's been so much time lost until these players get realistic tournaments under their belt. You can't have that pressure so precious should be expected but not like mexico not at all. That's cultural okay. We both expect the us ms national team to win mexico to win the last time that actually started a bit mexico twenty thirteen in the world cup qualifiers in costa rica jeff carlin. Espn gift card. I spoke team. He's coming after a great season with lil little warmer championship. He played twenty. Eight games scored three times and played at already twenty minutes with the us. Men's national team in their loss against switzerland. Here's team wear with jeff garlic. What was it like to to win. A title with lil was a ruling. Was that it was an amazing feeling. Obviously because you work all year You know a lot of ups and downs last year for me was was really hard in a you know. The team didn't finish off really well because obviously covert on that kind of stopped this in You know coming back this year in in winning the title was amazing. So a great feeling completely honored to be with his team glad different supporters. But we are you a different player now than say. Even at the beginning of the club season that just finished again. Line maturity As a player you know certain things come with some experience. And i feel like i've gotten to the point where i've gone a decent amount of matches in me and you know just the maturity in the game and hopefully i can concede the to mature. Just you know find myself. Become that complete layer. And you know what time that'll come some. I'm really happy were met now. I've had a good season. Hopefully next next year is going to be better in. You know. I can continue scoring goals in just helping nineteen excited. Are you to get back to the champions league so excited because the the my club champions league i missed out on her. Unfortunately with the injury but You know i'm super happy that we're in it now. Had had a really really good few matches in uraba. A an economic side is the next step in champions league. Everyone loves to play champions league. So it's an amazing feeling to join in terms of the us national team. You know where where do you see yourself fitting in. I mean you're pretty versatile guy You know where where do you see yourself fitting on this team. Uh monthly wherever the coasties play it wherever. My teammates need to play your. I'll do it. I don't have a problem play any position on. I'm really versatile. And i like to try new things so you know wherever wherever we need. We need something. I'm always going to be that guy who's ready to put his foot down and play I'm still. I'm still finding myself as a player in trying to figure out what position you know. I feel comfortable in seen last season. I was at nine. I was playing on the wing. I was also played a bit of right back so it was really interesting But yeah as time goes. I continue to gain experience in things like that. I feel like. I'll find a definite position but for now i'm just still testing the waters. What's your feedback from greg. Binged in terms of what he expects thankful that we play here. You know we have a. We have a lot of lot of great talents in. You know i. I feel like we're getting to that point where everyone's playing beautiful beautiful simple. And you know. Greg wants to be a good attacking team get runs behind in stuff like that. And that's what i'm good at. You know that's what we've been working on a training again. Those run in behind defense in just a goal pretty much. That's what i've been working on and you know we've been doing well. The team teams looking great The guys are ambitious so which has got to keep doing what we're doing and gelling together and everything will go down perfectly. How excited are you to to kind of team up with g arena and guys like that. I mean obviously christians not there at the moment but thinking of guys like western and tyler in an employer that i mean how how exciting is to be able to propose guys. Man said it's amazing. There's so much names. I allow on geo thai west christian when he comes in Just a lot of the Mark mckenzie's attack others is your I played with them before. But you know getting the chance to continue continue. Tenuously played with them and in nc how everyone is developing at their clubs. It's been great. And i can't wait to touch feel because i know everyone's going to bring something special in. Everyone has something everyone everyone bring something special to this team in. Feel a gun in the years to come. This team is going to be a force and jeff carlisle johnson. Show live from san jose. Great with team. Good to have you on the show. I know you fulling closely. What happens with the us. Men's national team specifically tyler adams. What's the latest on his status for today's game. Well the good news is that he's on the roster still the. Us could have replaced him up until twenty four hours before tonight's game and so he's still on the roster so that's a good sign but if you try to sift through gregg berhalter words. I'm not sure that we're gonna see a whole lot of tyler. Adams talked about how he's making progress. That how trained with the team. But that's also on the coming off of a back injury that he suffered and you know he didn't play the last few games leipzig and he didn't play in the friendly against switzerland. So i you know i. I suspect that what we're looking at as for tyler adams to have more of a substitutes rolled considering that he has not been on the field in the run up to the so. We'll see what happens tonight. But i suspect that again. We're going to see him coming off the bench. It'll be a surprise if if he starts the matched jeff. We've heard on more than a few occasions. Gregg berhalter hint that the us national be split into for what is the nations league and his gold cup. What can you tell us about this well. Let's kind of his plan all along. I mean in some previous press conferences. And you know what he talked about the team that was going to compete in the nations league. He said that after that he wanted those europe-based players to unplug from the game. Two to clear their heads. You know rest. Their minds as well as their bodies and that the gold cup would be a chance for some some. Mls performance to shine and to try to prove that when the team gets together. They deserve to be in the mix. So i think it makes a lot of sense. Certainly berhalter has to manage relationships with european club teams. And the last thing they want is for their blair's it'd be playing throughout the whole summer and not getting any time off. So i think the expectation is that again. The i team is going to compete in the nations league and then he's going to take a look at some. Mls guys in the gold cup jeff. Another hot topic. Is that relationship between josie altidore and toronto. Fc broke the news that there was an altercation between josi and coach. Chris armas after the orlando game. Do you believe he's now. In france by the way during the break of course enjoy roland garros with his girlfriend. Do you believe josie played his last game with their own. F c already. I think that's a distinct possibility. I mean toronto. Has been trying to move josie. Alto door since the beginning of the year if not earlier when the january camp came about doors called into camp but then at the last minute he was not made available for the for the friendly that took place at the end of that camp gregg berhalter and said that there was a possible. Transfer of foot to josie out the door out of toronto so You know this has been going on for a while. I think also towards frustration kind of came to a head in that orlando game. I mean the weather so much. An altercation is more of a verbal dispute and that happened when else got substituted against orlando. You felt like down a goal. There wasn't necessarily bring on on and it was you know why not have both of those guys in the field and and try to get back into that game. So josie probably said something that he shouldn't have and and the toronto brass reacted so was forced to train on his own. So i think it's the distinct possibility i mean. There's a huge break. You know that that's taking place right now. Mls has offered upwards of three weeks so that'd be that's more than enough time to at least get a deal in place. Granted you toronto is gonna probably try to engage in some roster mac as well but i think it's. It's very possible. That we've seen the last of josie out the door and a toronto uniform. You've been very very busy this breaking news very heavily involved. Busy cami news. Inter miami caught up in in that scandal. If you will Salary cap violations. One of their executives was suspended. It's very rare that we see major league. Soccer take such a hard stance against an owner especially owners against owners. What was the tipping point here. Jeff well i think the tipping point. I think there's actually more than one tipping point. I think the first tipping point was the realization that lays tweedy should have been a designated player. And if you think back into some previous years i mean ellie galaxy had to get rid of geo santos because otherwise they would have had or designated player. So i think that that line in the sand if you will had already been drawn so when you're the league found out that inter miami had violated that rule. They had to step in but then making matters worse. It wasn't just a not tweedy issue. This was five players in total. Who had their salary budget charge undercounted and so that is a mistake. That isn't just a whoops. Hey we forgot to do something. We got the file. Something with league office. This is this is more institutional this is more normal way of doing things and so as a consequence the league donnelly stepped in. But i think they hit inter miami with some fairly serious penalties when you think about the allocation money that's lost. I mean the fines. I mean people can argue that. Hey two hundred and fifty grand to where he is not going to be that big a deal for him you know. The team can obviously be able to pay the two million dollar fine. But i think the allocation money is definitely going to impact team for years to come. And it'll be interesting to see how miami tries to balance this penalty. Do they take most of the next year and then try to set themselves up with a bowing year. Do they even it out. But that's a question to chris. Anderson's gonna have to try to figure out paul madonna. Who was the executive at the time for inter. Miami was suspended for this season. He has now with that was with atlanta. He's been relieved that his duties and the next he was the one of the architects main architects in atlanta. United success Andy martino years. And when you think about the players who are on board. And i could read them off right now. It's kenwan jones joseph martinez miguel tito v alba yamile. Assad gonzalez pitas. Greg bragg is on the list goes on and on it should atlanta be invested next for their ties with paul mcdonagh during those years. What have you heard. Well what i've heard is that the two teams were paul mcdonagh was at previously orlando city and atlanta atlanta. United are not going to be investigated in terms of what took place. When paul mcdonagh is there now has to be taken with a grain of salt because when this investigation with inter miami initially began i was told that paul mcdonagh's not a target of this investigation obviously is more facts emerged and you saw. It wasn't just one player was five Where the where. The the salary budget charge was not done properly Obviously that's situation changed. From what i gather at the moment neither atlanta nor orlando are going to be investigated. We'll definitely keep keep an eye on that Jeff always thank you very much busy man. Thank you for taking the time sir. Anytime guys jeff garlic with us on football or maybe speaking of inter miami herald you know missy. He's as we speak negotiating his contract with barcelona. And take a look at this tweet by ben kennedy pulmonary missiles to reach an agreement for the next four years barcelona for sixty million per year cutting salary of twenty eight million previews signing bonus. But take a look at this. According to vegtable not be new. Mexico is sixty million. Four decks is so thirty five million approximately after taxes so messy has got fee three million from previous salary but most fall to twenty thousand three barcelona and till twenty twenty five at eight. That miami is it. Is it a real possibility to see leo nil mri on this very complicated structure with his contract playing in major league soccer at inter miami. What's going on inter miami. Just find over two million dollars. Allocation money for salary cap roster violations and executives been suspended and then on the heels of that we get this news. And i should be saying no way no chance but this could be huge possibility. The money they're talking about is seven more than seventy million for the two years. He's at inter miami. And you're thinking why would that. There's no way that the that has never happened right. Well it had it has happened. Something similar has happened. David beckham in two thousand seven five year contract. Two hundred and fifty million dollars along with that they give the gave him the rights to have an mls franchise which today is inter miami. If you're telling me that major league soccer couldn't wouldn't do the same for leonel messy one of the greatest footballers we've ever seen arguably the best player ever to play the game if you're saying that's not a possibility. I don't believe you. I wouldn't believe that as well but now we've seen that everything can happen and then go are still ongoing and i do believe we. We talk about this before the way. Manchester cd was approaching. Yeah and their contract. Was you complete a couple of years here for a lot of money and then you can go play with. Nyc new seated food club and be part of manchester cd family for the next decade. And that's how they would make money to pay. Essentially the same premise. Right s few years. What is about celona of in. What is major league soccer coming. Embassador right back as an ambassador. Within major league soccer you come back to work within the team for barcelona that was pretty much the same premise of these rumors. That we'd heard what city and their contract. It's a life project. It certainly very interesting on both fronts. He's obviously very fond of barcelona and the club means a lot to me is willing to sacrifice fifty three million dollars in the process of stay. We all knew major league. Soccer was trying to shy away from being this retirement league right and we also what happened. Well legal retirement. Exactly what happened with latin which he pretty much relaunched his career after playing for the galaxy in this case it doesn't matter if he wants to retire in major league soccer right you take him no matter what you know. Major league soccer has this. We want to shed this label shed the retirement league label but when it comes to generational talents cassatt. Them was a generational talent only two other players in his generation. Could you say we're better than him. Present ronaldo ll. He comes thirty seven years of age. Suffering an acl tear and he completely turned the league on its head. He destroys major league. Soccer defenses fifty two goals in two seasons. I don't care what age leona messy comes here. If you can get where the best players ever to play the game to be here as an ambassador. Oh any type where you can get them. You get him here if he wants to play an inter if he wants to play in los angeles if he wants to play in kansas city or denver. Colorado you part. The cease to make that happen absolutely. Speaking of barcelona team has recalled m medicine royal from berries. He's back he's gonna play for. Barcelona already had obviously surgery. Roberto playing that position and sergio. This do you believe the signing complicates compromises didn't stay in barcelona not who stay but it certainly compromises. Maybe his plane when you're at a club like barcelona doesn't matter who you are you going to compete in the day in and day out and even if you're not competing with those players you think you have a lockdown position. There was always somebody there are planning on bringing in the next week thing so said a genial desk twenty years old. It doesn't matter the type of season he had next season. All bets are off compete to win his position and he has to because he's an exceptional talent with the body fees and exceptional talent going forward. There are defensive principles that he's still lacking there are things that tactically he can get better. Yep yep and i think those depending on the planet format back line or a three-man back line which means you could be a potential wingback would mean his point. Here's a comparison between the two players. It might be actually good news for your desk. The fact that ronald kumon is staying for stanford as far as a coach because when they moved to that back three line is when he had probably more minutes. And i would say the better minutes. It was actually fitting better for him now. We don't we don't know if is still gonna play like that because he has got to see playing center back. They're going to have your vinyl also being a part of the team's we'll see how this effect or what kind of effect they will have on. That's who i believe. Still has the trust of rona coleman. You'll good to see you talk to you as always. Let's start with a couple of nwa returns over the weekend. And let's start with sam returning to nc courage. The team had a slow start but now they won't five nil. Tell us about the impact that sam hat on the team. Well she comes back. They score five goals. They've been struggling to score goals. It's like she snaps her fingers boom. I'm back ladies and gentlemen. It's all as well. And that. I mean that is the effect of samuel. She's confident right now. She office come back from playing at man city. So she's fit she's informed. She's getting ready for an olympics. And i think what. Sam also provides for this courage team with a lot of the losses. They've had crystal done moving away. Kemper was away. is that she provides some stability. She knows paul riley system. She buys into the system. She provides some confidence and so there are so many elements off the field that sam newest brings into the equation because she has been so much a part of this courage success over the years. She's obviously an impact player for the courage. But my question to you julie. Is she as impactful for the women for the united states women's national team. She was ranked number one in the world by our espn afc. F c crew for our first ever top fifty female players at. I don't even think she's reached her full potential player young player to box midfielder and on top of that right. She is just getting to where we're going to actually hit the tip of the iceberg with because she has so much upside in terms of score and potential getting in behind fences defensively on the ball. And so i think time at man city is going to serve very well because she talked about tactically being able to just a different systems. And now she's gonna come to the united states and hopefully have a great olympic. So i think that she will definitely have the same impact on the us teams. Well rose lavelle returns as well and she did it against their former team. Washington spirit at seeing that actually traded her league right right after transferred to manchester city. And this is what mega repeal had to say. I think there's a little lack of patience by the spirit to give rose for you know a honey bun and now she's milta- hatter howdy bond is one hundred thousand dollars by way so julie did washington make a mistake traded away lebel. Only only megan regino can fit in here. You know it's it's a bit tricky to be fair because honestly you look at the type of player. Rose lavelle is. She's a game changer. Type of player. And so there's people out there for sure. Going no way. Would i ever get rid of a roosevelt titles player but the way the nwa cell is set up if the washington spirit didn't trade her for that allocation money for the honey bun. They risked actually getting nothing because they don't own the rights to her. Us soccer does is so the federation actually owns the rights to her so they were afraid with her. Leaving to man city they would get nothing And i think. I think they felt that. Hey we have a chance of getting the tiny bun it's better than nothing potential. Nothing and so we're gonna make that trade so i get why they did it in on top of that. Her durability with washington spirit wasn't great. I mean that's the one knock on rose. Lavelle is schilling played in about forty percent their games because of injuries or call ups and so i get why they did it. Well no honey button. The're but you know what we do. Have its tunnel running the us l. bookkeeping. Alex morgan is so good right. You know how good he is play and they gave her a gold. Why you may say this goal is actually credited to martha but retroactively. The league has since credited. Alex morgan with that goal. Alex morgan has four goals in four games. She is in chicago absolutely We also wanted to hurt your semi. They defeat chee roswell akhara. They are again guy. Mick is the women's leak shampoo the fourth title in club history. This is the fourth title in six tournaments of the mexican women's national league. So you know that team. Very very well Attendance has been off the charts. Why do you think hurt. They've been so successful on the women's side as well by the way. Three different coaches yes. Idols forty k. Attendance per game insane Why are they so successful. Because that's the bigger brand. That's a culture. that's the culture of is. That's who they are when you wear that crashed when you wear that uniform there's expectation and there is a fame that comes with it. I see this happening a lot in europe. The men's team the women's there one they are together so you're using that strong brand name. Obviously here in the states major league soccer doesn't have a brand like that they have very little history. That's why we see different names but when it comes to elsewhere leagues around the world a very strong to community part of their culture. They grew up with this. So it makes sense and it also helps that you have deep pockets like the women's team do have some of the best players and they win. The mexican league is gaining traction julie. Mexican national team hasn't qualified to a major tournament since twenty dean. What kind of impact do you believe. The league can have from the national team. Well that's that's the honey bun question. Isn't it because i mean we've been saying this for a long time and i know this league was started with that in mind that it would trickle up and help the national team But it's as we know in her. I'd be interested to get your opinion on this because you know the mexican league. Well is that it's multifaceted the approach. You have to take to the women's game into supporting a national team and a grassroots support and building a player development and all those things that we know mexico has been way behind in. And i honestly the federation needs to do a better job of supporting the full women's national team. They need to do a better job as a country in terms of developing players. Just can't be oh were attracting some numbers at the league level which is great to see because they are and we see with tigray. It's it's so fun to watch. But i think there needs to be more at the grassroots and at the national team level for the mexican national team actually to make a deadly international stage. I couldn't agree more. Julie hit the nail on the head that for far too long. And you know this. The women's program on the mexican side was dependent on what the us what type of players with with ties to our country. Can we get and bring in to help. Strengthen our team and now they are depending on other federations to groom and mold those players. This league has been beneficial for the women but isa keep going. The payrolls aren't where they should be. They're women are extremely talented depending on the city. You're treated like celebrities. But they should be compensated. The same way and the federation needs to state claiming actually do something in the grassroots level like they do with the men they put much more stock than the men. Unfortunately but if you really want this program to go you need to do exactly what the. Us women's national team do and take the program. Seriously yeah please. That'd be fantastic. If they did it'd be great to have some neighbors that could compete on the international level with us. Absolutely up i would say. Mexico has has made a lot of progress in this field. Because five years ago we wouldn't be speaking about a league office mexican soccer so little by little but is getting already k. Added game yeah yeah. It's matador teams men's teams in mexico. They wish they got forty k. Per game no doubt you. You want to hear her. The last time i talked to julie was at the rio olympics in two thousand sixteen. We were doing segments for. Espn that border so we were so. It's so it's so great to talk to you again. Julie partic- you thank you for joining us. Every four to five years where he said you go bob -solutely devoted who does football america's in three the mexican national team they are in denver about blake. Costa rica the semi finals of the concha caps nation league. And there's been some controversy around the project. Starting eleven we all know all humanity is not part of the team. He's health is getting better. Which is encouraging news for the team. Because they really mean him and the rest of the starting eleven. There are also some question marks. And we're gonna bring our good friend. John sutcliffe to this that he's right there. Outside of the denver broncos stadium. John is great to talk to you. Were discussing exactly projected. Starting eleven for tino and this game against costa rica. What do you. What do you think's going to happen. What's up kid. johnny culas. I wanted to say this not adequate all. I think that don t know wants to put a starting lineup. This afternoon to the next level Better starting lineup in saturday in cowboys stadium against is what do i hear is guillermo chore as the starting goalkeeper. Even though guillermo troy's going to go with jimmy to the olympic team in tokyo then the to centrebacks. It's extra morano in this dot. I'll cool something is bothering also said it will not be in the starting lineup. Today are breaking news. I can also confirm that echo is gonna sign with. Monterrey confirmed that to me earlier today marino will be playing with yadel so leftback usually is got you out of the men. Hit out of theodora has been getting good minutes. He's getting the attention of data martino. So i expect out of the left back right back in chalky tucker then in the midfield cheka down trump is going to be up front then in the midfield. It's what we're talking about. Star wars disney plus. No check then in in in in the midfield. You're going to have it's out about is. I'm also hearing the it's might not be given the permission to go to the olympics for my be lose romo but today edson double h raya and the captain on this watt of adult front. We're going to get chiquillo. San no no santa will start then you have to do not on the right side. Why not think the we'll pick up. Tito has been bothered recently with something that they've been working on and he's not being considered to play here in denver. You'll have to be till gold cup or maybe next week against honduras in friendly in atlanta. And then even though he's had allah. Polio has a starring practice. I've been told. Don't be surprised. Henry martyn starts up front. So that's basically eleven starter for tonight for the mexican national team against costa rica. There were some con contradicting reports. We're stating adam. Either would start now handwriting. And we discussing john The impact of role humanities absence from the mexican national team. What can you tell us about the way that the martinez has been dealing with this because even in some games he tried the very famous false nine with turkey which was not a bad experiment by by the way the bad experiment was when he played in that position. What can you tell us about the battle for the number nine spot. Well you have to consider the fact that role out in. That was very clear last week. When i asked him. Ravel minutes said. Look i it has to do. Preseason wants wolves once he plays in the premier league. Then i can consider calling him for the world cup qualifiers. I think he's going to back him that he might have remember when you were a little kid mile and you. You didn't behave in. They send you to the principal's office in your in the blacklist free copy editor and this is in the blacklist. The more i've been together in the last few days close to the mexican national team. I don't a player of the month. Whatever he's doing with galaxy. I do not see copy chatty to being called up in the mexican team if not know is the coach so i think he's going to give kennedy marketing all the backing and also le-le-let's question. Maybe it is. I have a gut feeling that it's going to be candidate martine. Starting and then at some point he'll bringing a lump alito at the end of the day. This is official game. He needs to win. Mexico needs to get to the final sewri thing is take it easy. Relax were taking it seriously. So i just have a feeling it's going to be handed model and then as a sub lampley can we take you back. John second to the comment about caveat on this because he's obviously having a huge resurgence with the la galaxy. He's the all time leading goalscorer for the mexican national team. He's still a good age thirty three years of age yesterday. What exactly is keeping caveat at nine this away from the national team. I think his non disciplined wouldn't it was september twenty nine. We all know the issues about the party and in jersey in new york. Then in san antonio what i was sold nobody can confirm it because stopped going to talk about it. That was the moment that the talk to him and said look. You didn't come to the goal. Were going to be a dad. We backed you in that building. You come and do all this mess. It costs it costs versus in the operations their job. So i just think that he. He's not considered. I'll tell you what i think. The moment fullness morty from rattle shows his mexican passport foon morning will be called up before heavier. And this is what i think. Even though even though when dot medici till minutes in the now without role. We're going to see. But i i thought a week ago. There was a small window for caveat. The more i'm close to the mexican national team. I would be very surprised if he's called up for the coming tournament of gold cup. John you spoke about got the koran and that injury concern that he has in him not being a starter antunez slotted in there ahead of likes the head of the likes of a player like excuse me dig linus. What's going on there. Well i think dig. Line is had a great game on saturday against iceland and the fact that eddie gutierrez got hurt from an ankle he was brought in to the roster for these league. I think the line is will get more minutes. He'll get this opportunity. But i see the linus in the olympics in tokyo with jimmy. Lozano's squad so. I just have a feeling that he's trying to go with the best. He has an at this moment. It's tricky on. Do not in kennedy so john. The us men's team has made it very clear that they're going to have different teams for gap nations league and then for the gold cup. It will be more a major league. Soccer bass player canada roster. What's going on with the mexican roster for the bulk of because we all hurt the martinez saying priority number one olympic games. He has what is look like. he's ideal squad for this two matches. So what's going to happen during doing gold cup. What kind of a team or are we going to see. Well that's the big question would show you know that the said yesterday and his presser hit the stadium that he has about ninety percent set for that squadron in olympic squad. So that's a question we have. I think mexico has enough of a squad to give up three key players for jimmy over the age of twenty three twenty four and still have a very good starting squad. What do i see in the gold cup upfront. You'll see tequila lozano. You'll see tito in. Alan pulido or henry martyn. That's the interesting question is kennedy marathi. Nuala of one of the ones that goes to talk you. I don't know. I do think today's game in sunday's game if mexico advances or plays third and fourth place match is very important because the mexican squad. There's no question. There's thin enumerate webby on nine number john before we get to out of here i gotta ask you. You're in the thick of things. You're loving the place in mexico. You know the federation berry well. How much pressure is that. The martino under to win this nations league a lot of pressure a lot of pressure because at the end of the day you know. Don't confuse activity with accomplishment. Mexico is the most important team in concacaf and they gotta win because look if mexico gets it done today in sunday in then has a gold cup no problem then it comes the world cup qualifying game so there is pressure. That's why i think he's going to try and get the best starting lineup. He can get tonight he that if they win today. Everything's normal but if you lose than the crisis starts then also gets mad. Inadequate goldman saying that. What are you doing. you gotta get to in here. First of all. I never get mad. I just stayed facts. I just stayed facts. And that's a different thing. And i know her does that. John is gonna be a long summer for you following the mexican national team. I i know one of those stages is bringing you to allay so we look forward to seeing you hanging out with you stay safe. Stay fresh my friend because this is just getting started. Thank you for joining us. Live from denver. Johnny thank you my these in hair coolest. Senor john sunlit live from denver and we update you now. Hugh we go. This is the us men's national team starting eleven to face on dudas and hurric-. I'm taking a close look at the start. Eleven and i see no tyler adams. What kind of perfect do you think this is going to happen. The team he could have a domino effect. Absolutely because tyler adams is a very good player. Tyler adams gives you that balanced tighter. Tactically is so intelligent. You can cover those gaps and those defensive transitions that you've been vulnerable to all of a sudden aren't as important. All of a sudden aren't as noticeable. We have a player of that caliber with with robinson. On the left. I think anthony robinson left. He's proved to have a very good year. He's very incident. Player is a two way player can get involved in. The tax has gotta get engines. And he defends which gives her junior. Desktop for tuning plan is natural right-footed side and also gives a little counterbalanced so if one goes the other stays you almost have that three in the back line to protect so those two centrebacks won't be on an island. You don't always have a one player on an island like we often saw transition on the side of death when he was with john brooks. But yes no tyler. Adams is a huge huge loss. But this is as first choice of the lineup as you can get no doubt sack. Stephan backing goal christian pulisic fresh from winning you effort champions league and i see the top three hurt and i like it. I like it a lot. So how how you think this team is gonna play. Jet had a really good game. I guess switzerland. I know a lot of people are scratching their heads right now at the national jets game. You had a game. But it's no yunus mussa. People are saying. Where's units moose. We want us to eunice. Musette and i agree. I wanna see unison. See unicef says wealth. What's the bachelor. Jet has slowly and quietly turned out a very nice year under us. Men's national team with gregg berhalter. He's not a player that people fans give a lot of credit because he's got the major league soccer banner behind him because they think that's not important because they think that's in the inferior of what the team should be. He's a very good player. He's a very versatile player. he's a utility player. Play can plug in anywhere on the field. I don't think you miss a beat. Obviously yunus mussa is very talented. He's a very good player. And i very much rather see him on the field special jettison. No slouch either. Lastly how do you think christian pulisic is fitting in that top three. It's go time. I've not seen christian pulisic. This excited for the us national team in his history and i'm talking about when you saw six years old debut in plain. You didn't see this type of excitement is type of jubilee this type of belief in him. He's coming off a champions league. Tra- let's share. It grow big something that players thrive to do s buyer to aspire to being in a game like that. He lifted that trophy. I hope this is contagious. I hope this can be something. The rest see is tangible and lifts this team. This is a leader in the process. Fanciest of the fanciest now he has to come back. Play concacaf level soccer ladies and gentlemen. It was a major student with you my guy. Thanks for having me here next week. We'll see your here football america.

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Futbol Americas: USMNT beats Mexico to claim the CONCACAF Nations League

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Futbol Americas: USMNT beats Mexico to claim the CONCACAF Nations League

"Pushing the super south aerobics tonight up two point. The nations league brings out the best and worst of the usa. Mexico rivalry an instant classical in denver. Meanwhile the legend grows christian pulisic a week after winning. The champions league delivers the game winner and signature celebration for us and mexico fans to remember plus who's on hope for three martino team suffers a devastating defeat. Are mexico still lost. All that and more starting now on america. Welcome into the show. He's gomez her what a weekend. What a game between the united states and mexico in the concacaf nations league final. I don't know about you but here on the east coast to finish it like one. Am basically haven't slept on. I normally don't sleep. Thank you santiago. My little son but this was something else. I agree with you by no means was. We'll get into it but it kept me up all night just thinking about what transpired. Absolutely we're gonna talk big picture. United states with taylor. He's going to join us in just a few minutes after that. We'll talk big picture mexico with maurice. Gop he'll join us after that. Let's start with the game itself because it was as we said at the top an instant classic the united states winning three two in the first ever concha caf nations league final mexico at twice both from decca tito goals from the is the. Us came back twice. Goes off corner kicks or one. From june from weston mckennie mexico waved off. For an offside on xtra moreno very close off side to to as we headed into extra time and then it was a story of two penalties christian pulisic converted. His and undress were not save by. Ethan horvath hark. Perhaps it wasn't the greatest game aesthetically. What in terms of spectacle in terms of rivalry truly truly delivered especially for tournament. An event the nation's the that we've all been downplaying for quite some time. Yeah we've been downplaying it and you can say whatever you want about the importance of tournament or not at the end of the day. It's a final. It's vs mexico that captivates that gets the attention when you talk about. Was this a good outing of football display. No it wasn't pretty by any standard tactically. Technically lacking very deficient both teams in certain areas individual performances. That were very deficient. But then you had these wait. A second. Look at meet type performances. You had these look where this is going. Dramatic pauses twist plot us events like var calls. Whatever may be that. we're just dramatic. They were just like where are we going with this. It just kept you on the edge of your seat every single twist and turn you knew it was because it was important versus mexico. Us men's national team playing in denver playing at home a very young promising team against qigong cough. So by no means was it pretty but everything you would wanna final the dramas the twist that turns everything this had. I would say it was a great game for the neutral. I just don't know how many neutrals there are when it comes to usa mexico. We did a bunch of games back in two thousand eighteen. Two thousand nine hundred. Us and mexico played like three times in less than a year. Two of a more friendly. And i remember you. And i talking about. This robbery was endanger of getting watered down. Well after yesterday with the fans back. I think we can say. Usa and mexico is back and we judge the best rivalries worldwide off intensity that game. That game didn't lock for intensity and we saw it in good and bad and ugly ways and we'll get into that in just a little bit. Let's get to the moment of the match though her. Because for all the narratives for all the storylines for all the big picture stuff that we're gonna talk about later in the show this match as good as it was boils down to one moment. Hundred and twenty four th minute. That's not a typo of extra time on board with the penalty. Ethan horseback with the same even horvath save after coming on to replace an injured sack. Stephan i mean you cannot. You cannot write. This could try. You can try to write this if you did. Write this for a hollywood script or as a hollywood script you would say. Hometown boy plays in the home stadium of the team. He grew up watching football team in front of his fans in front of his family and saves the day against the biggest rival. Which is exactly what happened. It wasn't just anybody who stepped up. It was unrest wider. Who's arguably one of the best mexican players ever to play the game. A top five in many on their all time list all time greatest list. It really was a story book type of this blaine type of indian for ethan as much credit hurricanes. We wanna give ethan horrified. We have to say in that moment on the rest of the for all his experience he kind of choked didn't he. I mean there was a longtime. There was a lot of pressure to think about. How much was on that kick. You saw the american players messing with them about the hero but one another here much the goat very much. So what are those thirty four years old. He will be thirty five. Come september right around the corner. It's very much a question of what's his role with this team. Where's he going forward with. Not no he didn't start in a final. That should tell you a lot about where that the mad at him. And when that happens to a player that's indian his career on the ladder end of her stage of his career. That will mess with your psyche. So now you're not starting to game you feel. You should be starting your the captain. You stepped up. Take a penalty kick and if you see the direction of where that penalty went. It wasn't like even had an unbelievable save and fingertip save next to the post and took it away. No he struck that terribly almost to the center. You can tell. It affected him psychological. He wasn't ready wasn't prepared. Everybody can miss. That's not the issue you can miss. It happens it's who missed and how it happened. It's the context surrounding quavo. And would you decline of waddell. Yeah horvath very much involved in the moment of the match probably a good shopper man of the match as well because it wasn't just that penalty save right. There was some big saves and regulations. Some big stops juki lozano from distance. That i think are probably worth noting. The other massive polemic in this match is the penalty becomes one hundred ten minute of extra-time christian pulisic getting into the box settle called for the foul straight up. Wasn't a penalty for you. Know not for me. I think not for many. But here's the thing godless. Certainly this plenty of times because when you're a defender when you're any type of player competitive player in a competitive environment especially in concacaf. Do not let the referees. make a decision. Don't put them in a situation where they're forced to make a decision you lunged. I thought it was clean in the lashed effort. To take the ball away from christian pulisic it goes to var. I certainly didn't think they were going to call a penalty. I did not think it was clear and obvious they call the penalty. Desta risk you take. But this far assessment or this var play. The penalty is not the reason mexico lost. Let's be clear about this. I was on the board this all day. Different shows and it's vid- the us win because of this penalty call. No that's not the reason we can go into the reason we can go into mexico not being able to mark on set pieces. Not just two goals. They gave up every single. Set piece that the us had. They came up second-best mexico and the tactical airs at the martinez. And everything did. This isn't the reason that mexico lost Yeah but look on the penalty. You cannot call it then you just can't call and especially after done all had pretty much let everything go. You can't make that call there the other reason. You can't make that us because he didn't make it in the first place. Irk you have to overturn it based on conclusive video evidence. Obvious you gotta see you gotta see that you made a mistake. I don't see it from there. I you may say i'm looking at it through certain shades but i think carlos says playing the ball i and he gets there first. He takes it away now. What has to be said. Credit to christian pulisic corona gets into the box. He knew exactly what he was doing at the end of the day whether it was a penalty or not. He drew that penalty to go back to the turkey sano comparison. 'cause i mentioned cookies shots from distance that we're safer horvath as good as juki was. He didn't get into the box. He couldn't penetrate quite like publicity. Did at least in that moment when you penetrate like you said on the defensive side bad things can happen. We'll good things can happen to. If you're christian pulisic and you get into the box as we saw very good things happen some bad things last night as well her cto and that has to do with the fans and what we saw the game. There's two issues. I think we have to address your one is. We did hear the return of the homophobic chat. And second is we saw repeated. Instances of projectiles coming out of the stands and not just coming out of the stands but hitting players sometimes directly in the head. Where you start to worry about things like concussions and serious injuries it was just frankly of all the things you love from this final. There was some really ugly seams ugly. Yes embarrassing very much. So this is the. This is the image where projecting to the rest of the world. I mean i shared. I shared a an article with you. Guys was the son in england and how we are. Perceived concha cath whether it's the homophobic chant whether it's the throne of objects on the field. It's embarrassing now cock-up officials. After i tweeted something reached out to me. The reason happened in the eighty. Nine th minutes because as the first time he was loudly heard. You heard it faintly a few times. I'm sorry that faint homophobia isn't a big enough issue for concacaf. This embarrassing the only reason the only way this will change is if congress cap itself makes it you stop the game. You don't start you start throwing people out of the stands you start. Deducting points whatever it may be. This needs to stop the image. We project is downright embarrassing. Yeah when it comes to stuff. Coming out of the stands. It's just unacceptable. And i think at some point you gotta start labeling that for what it is it's assault. Yeah you're throwing something that heavy at somebody. From that far away there can be very serious consequences and so at some point. Those people need to be charged to the fullest extent of the law. And really see how far you can push it as far as the homophobic chant. Herk we heard again and again we didn't find a refereeing crew or a confederation concha cap as well that was willing to go to step two of the protocol was willing to pull people off the field. And if you never get to step to hurt you're never really threatening step three which is to abandon the match and that leads us to the statement. Which is we now. Know what the priorities are for those involved. At this point the confederation concha calf and the federations involved with his mexican federation. And it's not to get this homophobic chen out of soccer. It's very clearly to finish these games and for exciting. The game was last night for as exciting as it was. It was an turnament. The nations league the two three years ago didn't exist that we didn't talk about and the other time we heard it repeatedly was a quail maleta. Her up maleta in arlington and they wouldn't abandon the match so we know now what the priorities are. And it's very clearly that it's not getting this homophobic chant out of the sport. We can talk about it being sad and disappointing. I think it's both those things later. But that's about one real quick thing. One real quick thing her. I do want to say about the fans. Mexico always claims to play as look alice in the united states and in most stadiums and in most cities and in most moments even against the. Us that's true. I'm wondering if you picked up on some moments late in that match when the tide started to turn to the us and you started here. Usa usa usa and credit to the american outlaws. It's not often that usa chance drown out mexico chance when those teams play even in this country so we saw something there that i think was certainly turned from things in the past and i loved it and i'm dealing with the today. What were the shows. I worked on the board this all of a sudden the mexican counterparts are a little bit less loud. they're not as boisterous as they once were. And when that happens and you could increase it with the american outlaws and what they do in this great atmosphere in the great support that they provide for the ms actually in the us women's national team. Paul all bets are off. Let's get more big picture perspective here on the us. Men's national team. Nobody better do that than taylor. Twelve and a unum is the voice of things here on. Espn sports nation. He's going to be on our euros coverage he's also the voice of the us men's national team on espn in english and we welcome him into football. Maty guys now here on espn. Taylor showed us up. He showed us up. I got taken my dress tips from her. I gotta take them from From taylor moving forward. I love it right into an all last week. Man hurt was prattling on about gregg. Berhalter done never marquee win. And he was named everybody. All the coaches klinsmann bradley. He went back to bruce arena. I did Can we finally say taylor. The gregg berhalter not only has his his marquee win but he's kind of solidified not as the. Us coach already has the job but as kind of the right choice for the us coach. Because i feel like there was still some questions had an in that is going to be determined whether or not they qualify for the world cup but herk is exactly right in saying that there wasn't a marquee victory for gregg berhalter and you guys have done a wonderful job of looking at this through a different lens and that is not enlarge. Greg brewers issue because the pandemic came at an awful time when he's trying to find himself as an international manager versus coming off the club. Coaching where you're with the team day in and day out so he didn't have a marquee win. That is one hundred percent true. He's now got it. And i think it takes a little pressure off of him however world cup qualifying and go cup coming right around the corner. So you know this better than anyone that now all of a sudden if you don't get to the gold final and if you do get to the gold cup final mexico's not there. You better win the gold cup. Final senate if that doesn't happen. This wind is up in the air. We like. I'm not so sure about this. So times times. Up the essence. He needed this more than so martino. Absolutely even though martinez will have more pressure on him going into the gold cup. A gregg berhalter with a lot of the pressure around him. Whether it's brother hired him he hasn't done anything with the system. Whatever the naysayers are saying. He needed this victory badly. He got it but her right. This is the first one. It's that timing. Isn't it taylor. Isn't it you mentioned the pandemic. Nobody expected a pandemic well. Also nobody expected that you'd use the thirteen months with an interim coach until gregg berhalter. Cain then the pandemic happened so now all that time you could have been using could have been well spent working out a system trying out players really getting things going. You're barely doing now. You get your first marquee win. It doesn't matter how it happened. It happened These type of battles that hard your players that gives you the type of experience you need for a team moving forward. But now you just mentioned taylor world cup qualifying. I'm not even worried about gold cup because that might be a different type of team. We see gold cup. The expectations may be different. It's that world cup qualifying. What will that look like. Now that there are three games in a window. Now that out outing you only have a few days to work on a system with then you're gonna go play in some. You're going to play in mexico city. You can play wherever you go play. I feel like he will change it up. That time could have been better spent so it definitely feels like the pressure will mount because of the timing taylor. Christian pulisic wearing the captain's six the penalty. Amazing stuff the way. He makes the penalty to write. What what cool. Calm and collected manner of stepping up in that moment and converting it and really what to me stole. The show is a celebration right. Going over to the mexico fans takes his shirt off tells them to keep it quiet. There's a time in the history of the united states. it was kinda cloudy. Rain is us men's national team and then after that landon donovan's us men's national team. Is it safe to say now. This is christian. Pulisic's us men's national team taylor. So i'm glad you framed the question the way you did because i do think it's less about the penalty and listened. The penalty was fantastic. Make no mistake about it. But the celebration was very indicative of where christian pulisic is mentally and you also go back to the celebration of winning. The champions league with chelsea and wearing a us soccer federation sweatshirt. He wants ownership of this now. I'd argue with you. A little bit and saying quote nobody in the press actually criticized christian pulisic after failing to qualify for the two thousand eighteen world cup remember. Everyone talked about the team will. Then we're gonna leave christian pulisic aside because he's better than the team. He's bigger than the team and i think that has stuck with christian. I think he aid takes ownership of that. He took failing to qualify very difficult. I've had multiple sit downs with them where you can see that emotion but that's celebration after winning the champions league and then after bearing the penalty the other night sep. I love the way you framed the question to me. That was the bigger statement than the way buried the penalty because that look like in his eyes he wants to be the leader of this team and wants everyone else to follow in his footsteps. I thought that was a great way to look at that. It's iconic isn't it. It's one of those moments that we've seen with landon donovan. Who quite frankly did his best work against the mexican national team now if this. Us ms national team wants to succeed. Wants to do something of note. They need their highest profile player christian pulisic to be there to have success in this. I see christian. Pulisic like landon donovan. That maybe won't be yelling at his teammates. Maybe won't be the hurrah hurrah. Give the pep speeches get guys going but can lead by example and that example is when we need you the most against the biggest of opponents mexico you come out and you play. What about the performance itself taylor because up until the penalty you can make the case. He was very quiet. And i think when you see what he does at a place like chelsea and he does take over games from time to time. You kind of think all right. Well that'll translate to kake calf even against a good team by mexico. He'll be dominant. he wasn't quite dominant. How do you rate how he played on sunday. No but to that extent. Neither research desks right. So gino deaths right. You look at him. In the way he's played for quite frankly like he's he's looked like a real question mark for the next time you go from barcelona where you dominate possession for seventy percent of the game. Now all of a sudden you have to defend it. He doesn't look comfortable doing that. Pulisic was quite. I don't think that's saying anything. I don't think that's a hot take. But i also don't think the united states was as fluid going forward now. I felt like giovanni riina had a better tournament semifinal finals if you combine them he was more impactful and games. He was willing to drop deeper in the hole but politic's the game changer. Pulisic has the pace off the ball. Logistics the guy that can run off your number nine whether it's sergeant or whoever is up front and so. He's the one in the blink of an eye that can change the game. He can turn over the game and then all of a sudden. The game's going in your favor. Gregg berhalter has to find a way guys to get more touches. And i don't think he's putting him politic for that matter in the prime spot to do this in the best games. We've seen politic play for the us men's national team particularly in woke up poll flying in two thousand eighteen. He was actually playing as a second ford a number ten in a four. Three one whatever you want to say. It was underneath. Josie and he had the freedom to just go find the game. Go get into the game. Do something right through the middle and impact the game now. A lot of people will say herk. I've seen you do this. And it's right for chelsea a wide player. I get that however for the united states. I'm not so sure you need him to play wide if giovanni rain is that kind of player the way is they've got to find a way to get politic involved more in sub you're right it was a quiet game in my opinion from pulisic and yet it doesn't matter because he bared the most important penalty in that game. If i could briefly here. I actually thought when they did that. Three centreback back line. The two wing backs that they would play josh sergeant and almost two tenths very narrow. Wingers like he does it chelsea. I thought that would have been better for players like christian pulisic ngo on giovanni rain. And when you have wingbacks because then it gives them the liberty to kind of overlap. You and to play off you. I was very stunned when i saw him. Isolated and you saw how ineffective now. We saw the ranks rate. There he was. I a lot of team team ranks for the us men's national. You had a very underwhelming final. As far as good football good play. They won the game but by no means was that aesthetic. Can we talk a little bit. we talked about even horvath off the top. Here let me take you back to like two thousand nineteen early two thousand nineteen so early days of gregg berhalter and i were doing a game i think in in arizona and we have these the day before the match kind of behind behind the scenes chats with the manager and one of the takeaways from that was he said there was an open competition for goalie. And i really believed in. And eventually zack stephanie. Kind of locked down the number one job and didn't really seem like there was much. Competition zack steph gets hurt it's scary. Because it's one of those non contact knee injuries. Then ethan horvath comes on and does what he does. A is this number one job for the us now up in the air with what like eighteen months ago to the world cup. Better be but absolutely better. Be because what we've seen from zacks stephan look at the fa cup semifinal guys you you see him make one decision coming off. His line. he needs is in no-man's-land chelsea puts the ball in the back in manchester city. Lucy's loses fa cup semifinal in. So he's been in the concacaf nations league semifinal coming off the line if not for just sergeant back of his head clearance. That was remarkable in the everyone forgets about it. His decision making has been very questionable. The one question. I have for goalkeeper for the united states is neither goalkeepers playing regularly in the one thing you do not want is deposition to not be tested and as often as i talk about. Sergio deaths not wanting to defend zack steph. And when he does play his playing for manchester city and he's facing what i have for shot a game. That's what the averages are. He's barely facing a shot a game so he's not battle-tested and when you look at east horvath what he did against switzerland and what he did coming off the bench. This better be a competition in hurt knows this better than anyone because then the message translates throughout the entire locker room because if that performance from ethan horvath doesn't translate into having a real competition with zach stuff in two guys have known each other since they were thirteen by the way. If that doesn't do it then everyone else looks around the locker room and says well wait. A minute i don. I don't really need to be that accountable because gregg berhalter knows. I'm one of his favorites. So i can kind of skirt this. I think it's very important. That gregg berhalter handles this the right way. And in my opinion ethan horrified needs to play the next couple games when he and zack. Stephanie are available. Well this is a few things here. first off this decision may be gregg berhalter to make depending on how he wants to play. Because there's a reason he values and so much his ability to play with this feet the way he wants to play on the back so now we have to see if even can offer the same even though it's absolutely an open competition after the last two games that even even that has had a number two. This may not even be a competition because zach steph and hasn't proven to be healthy in the last year and a half. He's had these knee injuries nagging knee injuries. Going back to do sort of. Hopefully he's okay but that may be something that's completely taken out of out of control and completed given to havana. I shouldn't say gibbon but placed their brass tacks time. The million dollar question right now after the result three two in denver on sunday night is the us men's national team the best team in kaka. Calf taylor no nope and until they do it in convincing fashion. Listen there's more hope after the victory absolutely one hundred percent but mexico wasn't completely healthy for that game and you guys have done a wonderful job of covering he menez. And and that's the data his head injury in his return if chitose states how hot and gets back into the conversation that's another conversation. I understand the united states. Were missing tyler adams for majority of that game. They're missing air long. I get all of that but fully healthy everyone full-throttle i still think. Mexico is a notch above the united states. However the three two victory in denver gives you a little bit more hope and hurt. You know this better than anyone that gives you an extra ten to fifteen percent to perform at a higher level. I think the gap has closed a little bit mainly because mentally now the united states. No they can pull it off. Yeah they know they can pull it up. But i agree with you. There are not the top dog and contract. They're not he got because mexico has more tried and proven players within concacaf. Mexico knows what it's like to go to some to go to these different places and grind out results completely. Shut teams out at aztec. This is still a very young. Us men's national team. This type of victory will go a long way but as we saw semi final versus own. Duress things go south very very quickly. And if you're not on your day we can have more of these. Oh what happened cova. Yup i win for the united states against mexico in a cup final. Since two thousand and seven i went for the united states against mexico in a competitive match since two thousand thirteen so the beginning of a turning point. We'll say but definitely feels like the start of something. I taylor trauma man. Thanks to the time. I know you got a lot of stuff going on on sports nation here on. Espn plus all over a euros coverage he's calling gains with john champion just like he does for. Mls so taylor. Thanks to time. We'll do it again soon. Here on football mattis love the show. Boys keep it going. Let's go big picture mexican national team perspective. We walk into the show. I would say guest. But i mean at this point. He's part of amelia marisha. Pedrosa back with us on foodball. America's mel let's get right into it on her talking earlier about some of the hits that he's been doing on on food begun there. I know you've been all over the place. I'm sure as well following what the mexican press saying and you'll correct me if i'm wrong. I feel like what i'm hearing a lot of is mexico. Were by far the better team. The result was a little bit of a fluke for the us and mexico kind of deserved to win this match. I wonder one if you agree with that. Let's start there. Do you agree with what that the mexican press as saying. That mexico were were the better team. I do agree that mexico were the better team. Statistically and i believe they control the better parts of the game now. There were some better spells by the us. Men's national team. But i believe overall mexico displayed the better game. And i do believe they deserve. Wait now this is not a game of deserving it's a game of converting opportunities and that's exactly what the. Us national team did better hurt. I mean he's right. The better spells were about the The better overall player aesthetically was for elderly more possession. Better spurts better individual performances. But that doesn't matter that doesn't matter when you convert say men's him converts on every single set piece they have they were first to every single set piece so when you are a team that plays well give up those types of opportunities to a team that has players that weston mckennie who live off of those type of places who have proven who have shown to be so strong in the air disaster waiting to happen and yes. There were some bad performances on the national team but individual performances in the mexican national team. Like yaldo like chuck rodriguez like charlie rodriguez who who left a lot to be decided to centreback who look not one but new steps up extremely slow so lots of questions to be asked to this mexican national team men who wasn't answering the questions after the match because he was kicked out of the game dot com martinez so to get a perspective on how the mexican team itself feels about how they played. Let's listen intas instant who faced the press after the match to a make you deal nothing like this year than one hundred illinois in domino's she enduring day then you go to make you look at a gun shop allegation. I'm just board to working puzzle. Show it okay he out. He knew he dot com. Follow a gun. Well regardless of how people feel played at the end of the day the us one and mexico law so let's play a little version of the blame game and now how responsible is dot com out tino of all for the loss that mexico suffers last night in denver. I wou i wouldn't put a lot of lane on tino. And i just want to say something real quick. After hearing his party staff you can take that press conference and just go back to every time. Mexico has been eliminated in the round of sixteen. And that's the exact same soundbite being plagued every four years. The exact same soundbite now going back with other marino. There's there's a lot of talk about setting pieces and how the us were able to convert off those set pieces. But i i was going back and checking the film to review in the film and you know try different things. It was just very pure execution very poor execution especially in the second goal because he was playing a mixed mark playing two players one to one and then some zone defense but he views on moreno's performance very bad very poor if god roussel saline the end also very bad nest. Same thing so. I do believe the martino was trying different things. They just didn't work because it's accuser was not there and i also wanna give some credit for playing on the left hand side. I meant bleeding falls line for full martinez said we. We have to put some respect on other number nine's name but he played took. I think taxes were right. The team was aggressive. He made the decision to leave. I'm just one of the other on the bench and star charleena's. I like the move. I just don't believe charlie biggest being at a great level right now. But i don't put the blame on data martinez so many people performances were very very poor by the mexican national team. That's on thatta martino. If you look at the attention to detail on set pieces and what has been this mexican national team under marino that is a weakness of. There's that is something that didn't happen. We'll so you even go back and say whatever you want about one got. It was a soda but he did not have this problem. Dot com does the player selection is also prompted that the mighty. No at the either had a very good game. He's very good prospect. Going forward and you go back to the who struggled. Chuck out the region struggled. You put in charleena that he gets over. I understand why did i don't maybe he's not a player that can go the distance for you and you probably don't wanna burn up early with them okay. But at least they're almost coming up empty performance recruits so. Why not go with the least romo there. You then say as marisha correctly points out. Put some respect on our nines names. Don't talk bad about lampoon. Neither what is henry martin. They're very capable forwards very people nights. And what do you do choose. Lozano has a nine and it's do now and it's thick dito and when you have a chance and he did it he brought on diego. Linus who for my money was one of the better players on the field. You do at time the because the triggers me a little bit earlier he changed the game on head so you can only imagine what's going on. And then when they most needed him. What did dr martinez do gets himself. Red-carded that that that right there sends a message to the rest of the team. I think that that's as much to blame as anybody here now. I want to say something about the last thing that hurts is said when he goes back and starts naming the defenders especially right back left back there. No no many other options. The game against costa rica. mexico's right back was actually do not. What does that tell you that tells you. The doesn't believe he has good players for those positions and yes easy charge of selecting the starting eleven right now and i think became yesterday was so beneficial for pinot because he's not realizing that a team is not great. There's not a lot of individual talent. I think we would all agree. That chatterly rodriguez has to play over. And there's whatever now. I know we'll talk. And this is what it just a second but yesterday was just a bad game for him but i would start every single game with china over there. I have no with that whatsoever guys. I don't know about the tactics. I don't know about the set pieces. I'll leave that to you but if there is a failure from martinez game kinda with you hurt. it's emotional. The team blows to leads to separately in this game and so point. That's got to be on the coach. And he loses cool and i don't know the full impact that might have had on the water. But it certainly doesn't transmit calm onto the field and there was still five or ten minutes to go in that game from mexico to come back. I think it was actually ten when all the extra time was added on. If there's one more air you can probably criticize dot com martino. Maybe hindsight is twenty twenty. Here it's the decision not to start diego linus right because the line is then comes on and has this amazing impac. Now is diego. Line is now a lockdown starter for the mexican national team after this performance in a big game against the us. Well no doubt. I will keep proved. Wonderful is wrong. Not us having knock me wrong because her gift saying all along the way that real anthony being the better player when he came to national team play should we. This was freely clear. Freidy obvious that vehicle liners is way way way better player that new zealand and i think it's not only vehicle. I think it also played a role when linus played on the right hand side chiusano from the left hand side that was actually read the minutes for mexico because they both tend to internalize the game and create better opportunities to me. Ligo line is has to be a starter on this thing because again a better player and he plays for betis in league for cheever's come on. Let's start let's start off by giving it some context. Look at the numbers for the two with the mexican nationals. You mean if you want just a senior national team and recently. The last two games have been diego lines. His best gains were by far also digger linus place. Do you know what that does to pick up the koran and iran lozano to play in their natural positions that puts one of them out. So are you telling me that. Diego linus is going to play hooky. Lozano ortega tito not shuki pick ditto. Yeah accidentally fine with it. Hey you were. You brought up this idea. Why don't you blame the katito asset right back right so we just mentioned it right back problem why not delay takes out. Let me let me ask you guys. We gotta get to this. 'cause mouth brought it up earlier. He misses the penalty. He's thirty four years old. It feels like a changing of the guards generally with this rivalry but certainly this mexican team when you compare the ages of mexico to the age of the us. They aren't aging squad and one of the big part of that hurt realistically now looking forward to the world cup. What's his future with the national team. He's be thirty. Five in september guys eighteen months from now you'll be thirty six going on thirty seven. This is a player that if he isn't qatar if he is there it's going to be like into what we saw from graphite marcus in russia. He's going to be there for his experience for his mentoring. Not for what he can do on the field shirt. Maybe in a pinch he comes on maybe to close out game. Maybe in crunched limited minutes. But he's not your out everyday starting. He's certainly not going to be the captain of this mexican national team. I firmly believe we've seen the last of guate- though and this mexican national team. Now you agree as he done at least as a starter. I agree that he's done a start. He cannot start. But i do believe that he has to be a part of. The team is not only his leadership. I believe he can give you twenty three to twenty five minutes if the game actually asked for a player like him glazing league for whenever he's not injured it's a big if but whenever he's not injured he can give you good minutes and i think whenever he's paired with best actually positive for mexico but they do need an extra player and i didn't like the way mexico ended up playing yesterday with them. There is one of that lost the number five and then playing about as and romo that was probably not the best midfield because he's lost a step or two steps maybe but he has to be part of this quad. I just don't see him as a star anymore. Now it's a little bit sampler with mexico as we look back on this game right created more chances but couldn't finish them as you said at the top very eloquently. It's the same thing we here at the round of sixteen every time. There were chances but mexico couldn't at the end of the day. Put the ball in the net. That comes down in large part to one position. And that's the number nine with how well heavy editor thirty nine. This is playing. Mls and we heard all what john sutcliffe said on the show about him being off the list. Uncall- up -able for dot com right now Do they need teach at ito. Do they need this mexican national team. Non this mex- mexico needs a number one point number nine and bessemer nine available right now east mondays and i think you you stated very clear why he's not playing and someone told me a couple of days ago. That pretty much wants to to go on the record to the public. Saying i apologize. I was wrong. I heard the team back. He hasn't said that and we'll see that ever happens but they do need him. Because if you're gonna play shuki luciano. I don't think you can assign oh is is not a good false number nine. I think he could do well but not. That's not his best position so yeah they do need a number nine and the best available is not as we don't know when humanity is going to be available again. We hope he will be available for the national team against which don't know when that's going to happen. So yeah tribunals has to be a part of this team so look further positions available and one of the number nine position and you have players who can possibly can fill that void who says please respect. These players like lido martine. But he won't value those players and then you have to who's ready to go but many clamoring for it'll only phone is maury who could take time to actually get his passport and getting one time switch going so you may not even have him forget about gold cup for world cup qualifiers. Why why are you messing around. Why are you not going with the obvious. The all time leading goalscorer national team who just turned thirty three a few days ago. Whose by the way the leading goalscorer in major league soccer. I don't understand why thought the mighty no and the mexican federation field. This need to prove i am right. Tell the world. I m right for you to come back yeah. Let's be honest. it's a huge drop off to you. Can't put charito route jimenez in the same conversation as and henry martin. These guys are are are struggling to score ten fifteen goals a season. Max leagues like mls and the mackie's you can't compare that to what the other guys have done. I'm interested that you mentioned your phone has murray and world cup qualifying. Here's the here's the cynic in me is thinking an argentine coach. Martino cause of it okay. You're funez moria naturalized for world cup qualifiers of head of the all time leading scorer from mexico and mexico gets off to a bad start in world cup now. Think can you imagine. Can you imagine the drama. All right. Just like we did with taylor. Twelve mile brass tacks the big million dollar question right now with what we saw last night from what we've known as the last decade is mexico still and he pick that concacaf. No but there's no keegan taylor conquer cav right now. We have like average-sized teams right now. Eventually we can have another key gun right now. there's no bit adds. I can't believe what i'm hearing here. Multiple saying mexico has not to go got cowboy. You are right now right now. There's just an average size team. That's it hey but he also didn't say that the us concacaf so hard just broke into million pieces. They didn't know how to repair. I'm sorry may off their perch but didn't claim the perch just really quickly. If they're not he come craft right now. Mexico is in trouble because if you look at the age of this team of the mexico squad compared to what is the us men's national and compared to what is owned do that's who is getting younger compared to what it's a generational shift should mexico not be worried if you take. Tim ream out of the equation for the starting eleven. Who's thirty three. I believe by the way this traumatically down. This should be worrying mexico. Yeah this looks writing bank. Let's remember there are at least five players right now. We the olympic team with that would probably be a part of the i team for martinez said that could probably equal those differences. A little bit. Just putting out there okay. One more thing here because we We got some common some interesting comments. Post-match from tech it to who of course scored the goal that got the game off to such a great start will translate it here from spanish. What he said effectively yes. It was one of the best games we've played whoever watches or analyzes. This we'll see we were the superior team unfortunately set pieces. Something we have to work on for. What's next which is gold cup. Which is a rematch uses. The word obviously Shop there so hurt how how important now coming off. This loss is the gold cup actually to mexico and thought that marino aids vital dottino and this mexican national team anything less but a victory but lifting up that trophy will certainly may mean that that d'amato dino and his job is on the line and because of the age group because of this more advanced mexico we must now type of mentality and type aside and also as both of you know there have been a lot of rumblings about the type of team that the us men's nasty may take gold cup. They are prioritizing. The european players in their preseason so we may see a majority. Mls type gold cup at the us. Men's national team. Now yes that that is going to be obligated to win the gold cup not not because of what it gives you just a trophy but of the repercussions that he will have if he does win. It It would probably i wouldn't consider it a revenge game because we saw what it pretty much. Is that you as ms national game. Ideal starting eleven tyler. Adams probably should be part of that team but mexico almost have their ideal starting eleven so we put those together. That's when you have another revenge it will probably come onto the world cup qualifiers but yes that that will be under a lot of pressure. If he's team us win the goal cook you say pressure malamud ask you this one last thing because that pressure lead to trouble with world cup qualifiers coming. If they don't win gold cup could his job be in jeopardy. You know the temperature of of not just the mexican press but the mexican public. How much trouble could be in. Oh yeah he could be in trouble of course when you're the mexican national team manager you live in a marriage so you leave a honeymoon stage you play a lot of. You feels more letters winning a lot of games. But you have your first series defeat. Ben the real marriage starts and there will be a lot of people calling for at least accountability from from that the model t know so. Yeah oh yeah. His position would be in danger if he doesn't win the gold cup. Yeah especially right now said because it started off with the nine situation. I don't have a menace. How does that affect me. But now you're seeing other situations that's why getting too old. My centrebacks are too slow. Might players are getting old. I'm starting to lose games. I would normally went and by the way the neighbor to the north of me was younger. Who has more high profile players playing in more high profile places. Just beat me. And and you're not calling in chatty we'll leave it there for now. You can watch monday through friday with her on our. Thanks as always now for the time. Great to have you. Can i Hey busy show coming up. We don garber. mls commissioner. You're doing a one on one interview with him. 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Gab and Juls: What Comes Next?

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Gab and Juls: What Comes Next?

"Take their jobs. We're back almost back to a very different world because I think we lasted the show. There was one major European league that had stopped operations city. Now it feels like every other big five league it's sickening. It's almost every week in Europe. we'll get to the ones that have kept going We've got borders being closed. We've got At least two countries soon. More on total lockdown And it's something. That's you know if you're listening to us in different parts of the world. Maybe you know you've might have already been through a lot of this if you're in. Singapore Taiwan or Korea If you're in Aleve been going through this for a while if you're in the United States it's probably starting to hit you where you are This is something that we're dealing with now. The reason we we're gonNA talk about this. Today is the impact it has on football and how things My unfold but I think goes say you agree with me. The top that your public health comes first cross atop so we're not discounting in any way no just their home be safe. They call the precautions. You can just listen to podcasts of this season to like you know keeps you entertained The but more seriously. It's very important that people think about their own health before and the health of others don't take any stupid risk and doing things. Don Not recommended if people say you should stay home. Stay at home. Then don't do Parisian people did at the weekend where they were just on holidays the partying with each other all the time now. We're going to get a better sense of what's happening because people have a lot of questions about you are the domestic leagues GonNa GonNa be wrapped up. How will they be ripped up? When will they be wrapped up? And what about the euro's UEFA are holding a meeting on Tuesday? He's obviously a video. Conferencing meeting They're going to speak to all fifty five Fiv member associations they're gonNA speak to stakeholders which means the European Clubs Association representing two hundred forty odd Clubs in Europe. It means fief brought. Which is the umbrella organization that represents all the players unions And the I forget the acronym but it's basically it's the organization that encompasses all the different European Leagues The official line from UEFA. Is that what we want to hear everybody out what they think? We've been looking at situation for a long time And we want to try to get to to to to solution or at least a plan. Yet you know because the situation is continually evolving. The first most obvious thing in several leagues including city. I've come out and the openness. They said well we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA ask them to postpone the Euro And the idea is postponed. The euro's because hopefully you'll be able to come back to play at some point in hopefully early. May maybe it's mid-may there's no guarantee of this of course but if you do that then you can salvage you reach some sort of resolution in your league when you may not be able to tell the fixtures maybe you can You can have some sort of playoff And you can finish off the Champions League as well right logical decision right. Yeah and I. I don't think there's anything in you if I can as much as they want that you rose to two happens that they can say no. You know what we postponed near. We call move it because of this or this odar euros for the first time ever in probably the last time as well as in different cities which means economically the impact will be much less than if he was in one country the STA looted yes much more diluted and those cities were still have the euro's hopefully in a year time for example in December twenty twenty one. So you know they they they would not lose that merge so that's financially we know how important it is so. I think that's the first one where people say it's okay. I think for the twin cities to say is good with us. We can postpone between twenty one right. Yeah and not to mention the fact that as of right now we don't know what restrictions are going to be in pace in terms of travel and whatnot I think the point is in looking at it. Fairly certain from a financial lens is pretty important that you finish the Champions League There's going to be different proposals. You don't. We don't know how much time you're going to have to do it. We don't know if you're GONNA have to play behind closed doors There's the round sixteen is resolved all the return legs in the euro. Police have not been played Some of the first legs have not been played obviously in the in the Champions League Round sixteen there's think at least three games that We're one hasn't been played so they need to resolve that one proposal And I think there is some merit to this. Is You finish. You finish those off You play the second legs Where you haven't even played the first leg at like in the Cutoff Inter Situation Or The you play like and you figure out neutral ground. Whatever you do the quarter-finals in one leg And then for the semi final and final. You borrow something from the NC Double A. And you do like a final four. Yeah or from the nation's league Some venue fair reasonable. Yeah if we know obviously everything we're saying here is if time allows exactly because we don't know yet when right anything we'd be we don't repeating that. Yeah we'll make a note of if you're listening exactly so if I that's a solution and I think that would be a fair solution for for any. Ideally you would want every fixture to be able to be played and everybody but that's not gonNA happen. Let's be honest and I think we need to prepare people as well that this could be a much longer interruption than what maybe we thought. Initially what people are hoping saying. Oh yeah maybe you know said of April. We could go back. Well the we can tell you now that nothing would be played the weekend of the fourth and fifth of April. It will be much much longer than that So let's get already to not have football for a long time and other sports as well and again that would be fine because health is is the priority. I think your plan is a very fair. Plus my plan the Brendler just mentioned you move us out of the way and then whenever you can play football again you structure your remaining fixtures. You've got usually ten in the League for mostly extent. Eleven You've got obviously. Those Champions League matches your team in there. You've got domestic cups for some finals. For example one of the things we look at this in a more granular way about what's left to be played. Domestically this is not a decision. Uefa can't make a decision for the domestic league domestic leagues do what they want but UEFA I suspect will say we need to get this wrapped up by June thirtieth and the reason they need to get this wrapped up on June thirtieth. Is that all players on expiring contracts. Obviously that's when their their their contracts right now. You have implications not just in terms of wages. You have implications in terms of insurance. I think what a lot of people don't want is to go an extend this out into next season. I know there's been suggestions. Here Greg Dyke. Who's a former head of the football association and I mean he's view? Is that well? No you need to play. All the fixtures Wayne Rooney talked about. Can you not extend in plain to September UEFA POINT? I think right is the football system isn't set up for that. I know it's an unusual situation. But you impact so many different things if you play through during the summer. I I don't know that if it's even even play football in Seville At the end of July where? It's you know hundred ten degrees Fahrenheit. I think these things I'm going to play. You don't WanNa create something where you have a knock on effect affects next season and then the season after the season after. So they're going to say. I suspect June. Thirty s the European season ends. We'll have the Champions League final play by then again. If the epidemic allows Yep July fifteenth is when roughly mid July is won qualifying for next year. So you're opening Champions League starts domestic leagues do what you think is best because we can't force you but by that day you have to tell us who's playing in next season's European cups so that if they decide well no we're different. We're an island. We invented the game Blah Blah Blah. We'll do things are ways we seen that they're doing more than one That's fine but if you want your clubs to play in the Champions League next year and the Europa League you gotta get us that list by June thirtieth. Do it any way you want. Would that seem like a fair solution if the majority of people in England in the FA in the clubs they know? Let's keep let's play out the rest of the fixture list regardless we wanNA play through July and August and the climate allows us to do it and whatever I personally I think. Hey that's fine you do that. But in the meantime if you WANNA play in Europe exactly give us give us the teams by June thirtieth. Yeah Yeah I think and I and I think again if you find you you just come up and say okay. We we move the Euro so we can allow all those leaks finish and do your business but for us to say on. June the thirtieth we need to prepare for next season. You've been competition so give us the names of who qualified who curbs. If there's no winner then you give an extra space in your league table. And so so and so and they put the rose and then people do what they want. After that they would have that guidance. I think what people tend to forget because people ask me or I hear people saying Oh yeah you know as soon as the epidemic allows then we can play much again and they can play every three days right now being are we think ninety five percent of Europe players in the house. Some have many James. Some have don't don't have any James. All it's not essential Ramos who have not who have appropriate aggregate Jim. So they're trying to stay fit but they call work too hard because they don't want the immune system and rightly so to be weakened. They don't have team doctors there with the fitness. Trainers exactly what they do. Have a program sent by. Every managers was unique. Unc Denison one too much to hold us in once etc CITRA. Ps G reference. Of course the when the season will finally be allowed to start again. Those won't be ready. Let's not kid ourselves. They won't be ready to play again every three days to finish the season it would take some time. You look at the summer after four weeks off of holidays they need. They need another six weeks to be ready for the season. So let's not forget that they will. They will come out of this. Not In the best shape or form whatsoever. I don't cave run on the treadmill for a bit every day. Or if they do cycling Peleton whoever is called every day they won't be ready to play football matches at that level. That kind of intensity right. No it's it's it's not possible you're going to have to work in some kind of mini preseason in that as well as a couple of times as well on top of everything is so that be the case and look. I mean I I to say England is the only place that I've heard where people are seriously talking old. Let's keep going until September the FA Cup. Or whatever. I personally I think you need to lose the FA Cup. I mean you're going to have to make a decision at some point And people are going to have to decide what is important to them. I suspect that domestic cops are going to be the ones that are going to suffer. That aren't going to happen. I I worked at out Manchester City where to reach the Champions League final and the FA Cup final. And you wouldn't bet against them doing it. They would have twenty one fixtures left to play This is simply not possible. Crazy crazy so if so presumably there there we will if if everything goes to plan if they can start playing again some point early. May Mid may whenever it is A lot of leagues will have to make a decision. Because I don't think I think it's very optimistic to think that they can cram in all the fixtures yet What what would you do? There's obviously your few options of why you could do We saw carrying Brady for example. It's not a good option. One of the east to avoid the season. I will get you the options. Let me give you so. That's one and you say listen. We can't finish the season so this isn't his avoid. The season no promotion earlier. No permission. No relegation And you just go back next season in the same format is it. Was this season so same. Teams have never happened. Yeah okay second one is you for example take the teams that the winter break flags input all offer for England's at the turn of the year and that table is the table for the season. Because you haven't finished so you take as so far the marines. This is one of the options that Spain Seemed to be thinking of at the halfway mark at the halfway mark of the season. The third one is you just this. We've played seventy five percent of the games and we're going to take you from here. We don't play the remaining ten liberators and this is the table rows and this is the champion this team qualified. Who you know who go down. And then who goes up from from the second division or you find a way. Did you see any any other options? And what you make of those of the three. So and obviously there's the one where you can you can manage to play. The remaining games is well. I think there's a fifth woman by the most realistic one. I'm going to get through those first three options. That you mentioned. I think should only be considered if we can play no more football at all. If the epidemic doesn't allow us to There's a financial imperative here Clubs obviously money when they don't play if it's safe to play. There's no reason that they shouldn't be playing. Especially since you have moved the euro and created effectively. They've picked up so you have to play in that period I think I and by the way into the losses. That clubs are making clear on this. The only money to clubs losing right now is if games get cancelled they lose gates People creating all sorts of scare stories. Have Your Tab us in particular in Spain talking about Oh but we're GONNA lose. Tv revenue in a loose sponsorship. You don't know that you really don't Because you know. Broadcasters can take legal action sponsors can take legal action by. I double dare sponsor to say like we're going to go and take legal action against you and your payments because of this circumstance way beyond your control not to mention that it's governed by contracts and it depends on the contracts are written in terms of because this is obviously an act of God. It's forced measure so I think those things are very overblown and I think a lot of those estimates are extremely self serving You know but the attitude is cross that bridge when you get to it definitely so if you can't play the Blues Gate Receipts Those vary from from country to country and primarily. Guessing gets an estimated. Where not play another single game? It's an estimated. A hundred and seventy five million euros spread across the twenty clubs. So it's not insubstantial. It's not enormous it obviously impacts lower division clubs more. Yeah because they rely on Gate Receipts Smart But I think it's important to continue playing. Yeah Yeah the wife you calm play you know allowed to if you can't play I think Z. Unlike we're choosing the least bad option can't play what I think leagues are going to do. Is they're gonNA take the table as it stands I think ideally you'd want. I would get some sort of mathematical nerd to come out and run some kind of analysis based on strength of schedule based on the fact that some teams have played more games and if games in hand yeah iron. Doing adjusted league table used to drink money. The when when the rain Duckworth message message. Something similar to that right yeah. I don't know that people are going to do it because fans aren't gonNA understand it I sound would still definitely Assigned the title Because after you run that analysis but you would assign you WANNA sign with an asterisk. Assigning with an asterisk. Obviously it's crazy in England where Liverpool over twenty five point lead. But that's not the case in every league I'm I would not have. I wouldn't relegate anybody And if it means that you have to take promoted teams to make the League bigger for one year. It's not ideal But that may be has to happen. I think it's going to be a case by case situation every country but I think likely in most countries we will be able to play. Some games I think what you WANNA do is make those games meaningful And provide some sort of closure. Yeah I think one obvious solution Would be to create would be simply to split the league up by positions in two different groups. They would he do this in Belgium. Where you know. Depending on the number of games you play the size of your little mini league You carry over points or some proportion of points in in Belgium. What they do is after the regular season they However many points you have they split those points into two so you get half those points and You play the Games that you're supposed to play that the schedule allows you to play. And that helps determine the final standings. You know you could do it if you if you don't play the FA Cup obvious you'd have another Europa League spot. Maybe you take the top six. Maybe you take a middle six to deal with competing for that final Europa League spot And maybe you know the rest to avoid relegation You can find a way for our waste. Do this did. The guidry's obviously has to be fair. You can't ignore what happened before and it has to be something that people understand and the games have to be meaningful. And if you do that you can. You can hopefully address some of these issues. I think that would be the ideal solution if you can't play out all the fixtures so there's a there's a precedent or kind of precedent because this this scenario has never been sinful in Chile last year. When if you remember there was very violent riots and they suspended. The League ceased games before the end. I believe I think before the end of the eight maybe and and what did they never resumed the league and they stopped there and they took as you said the table as it stood when he was stopped with the team leading and they will be like Liverpool this season there were like twenty five points or something and they were crowned champion and no one had anything to say about. It was it was fair and and everybody agreed to the fight. That should be so when I read current Radio. It is and rumors of other clubs saying like. Oh you know we should announce this officially the season Voids enchiladas in France. That Yawn chairman has done the same as well And just said because this team is seventh in the League and if if the scene is void and they will go biking champion that season because they in the champion this season. It just drives me minds. I know you have to protect your clubs interest and I know we would all do that if we were owning your know. Pg OR MILANO WAIVER. But there's a point where you have to be a decent person and decent human being announced not decent. No and I think the other issues and maybe I'm optimistic here. Maybe I think that people are a little too good to look in many leagues. You're competing for Champions League and Europa League places and if you can't play another game where if you get to the point where you have to figure out a split teams. Maybe there's another option. Maybe get the teams around the table and you agree okay in the interest of our league and are you a fisher. Who are we going to send right yet? Is that means that we send Manchester United instead of Leicester because it's good for the League competing? It's not a great example more point but you know what I'm saying if it's close then let's do that and then maybe we have something where because obviously a lot of this is about money. Whatever revenue united earn get split under some formula with Leicester you know what I mean you choose the best teams to represent? Yeah definitely I I just think people have to think. Creatively all these options have to be on the table. And hopefully you know there's going to be fewer people like like Karren Brady who are just going to go and hire lawyers to tie this up in court for a long time. Yeah no hopefully people can understand the serious and get the right consensus to move on Before we move on we have to figure out what to do with Euro Twenty twenty. Because Yeah it's moved. They're going to tentatively figure out When to move it to also the champion's league final. Obviously it's not going to be played. May Thirtieth in May still be played in a stumble. If it's going to be at the end of June we will find out. I'm slightly wary. I am not an empty meteorologist but I look at the number of cases in Turkey. Look at the fact that Turkey shares a land border with Iran which obviously one of the hardest hit countries are. Look at the way it has been spreading. Turkey might be different moment in time. They may be dealing with us. Come the end of June so there has to be contingency. I think there as well If you move the euros and you move it to the same dates next summer you're going to have to adjust number things the schedule. Yeah so the nation's eight final four which I personally really like the nation's last year Based on the priority is it's not going to be the priority. I agree with you There's some World Cup qualifying games. Hopefully you can reach them. Understanding with fever. there's the whip but then the other two. I think it's more problematic. One is the women's well. There's the the European under twenty one's yet you find. What is the women's euros which which is scheduled in England? Which kicks off. I believe on July fifth so there would be an overlap of of about a week until the end of the tournament. I think as well as such as the overlap saying all the media attention is going to be on the men's euros. You'RE NOT GONNA get the build up to the women's euros coverage of the they would use you to get what I think they should consider. Doing is moving the women's euros down to twenty twenty two Argument being is they're literally will be nothing VAT summer. Yeah because the worker as obviously it's a winter World Cup exactly so that would that would work again. Crunch the numbers. But you don't want to create a situation where you're having a women zero you've got this great wave of of interest and enthusiasm women's football and then you just cannibalize it by parking the main euro at the top of it And I know people are going to say well. Why don't you move the men's zero to your twenty twenty? Well it's very simple because they're gonNA have a World Cup four months whereas the women's World Cup is until two thousand twenty three The other issue is of course. Doggerel fee for club World Cup It's going to be held in China. Kicks off. I think it's set to kick off May June You're going to have twenty. Four teams eight is the new version has a new version. Eight of them are big European teams. It's going to be very lucrative four teams participating in it there's a whole political backdrop to this which is kind of a power struggle between eight and FIFA Shefrin I- Jining Fantino logic from UEFA standpoint suggests right that's gotta go. Yeah but then again there's teams in Africa in South America in CONCACAF single. Wait a minute we were promised this. That's that's that's the that's the Big One. I mean you know better than me but I I don't know what the relationship over something like this where there's so much money at stake. And there's there's there's also a state not just the money but also sense of superiority between you find fee for of lack. Who's GonNa let go because if I can standard said okay right great for euros per we? Don't we don't care. We go so we also have our own compositions to run here and while we give you the space of the workup. The newspaper comes welcomed out. We spent so much time and already so much money organising finding a right way of in clubs on board these this enough now to just put it on the been all moving to another day. It's just for your ufo competition so who would win between it. Tricky I mean Fi. Uefa are increasingly aligned with With comparable so South America many ways presumed the Copa America has to move as well so I think they could make a pretty strong stand. The other thing is if a club World Cup is only. It'd be lucrative if you have those eight big teams and the Big South American team's going to control the balance of power We don't know who those eight European teams are because there's been different talk about different criteria. I think we can safely assume that row Madrid and Liverpool are going to be two of them because they won the Champions League champions off the five big lakes Beta you think knows who knows I mean. That's not beating right now. It doesn't even seem that relevant. Yeah to be honest but I would appeal to those clubs right now. Say because those clubs are GonNa say well wait a minute so I can release my players for the euros. Not GonNa dime out of it or it can follow fief instructions and send them to the club. World Cup where I'm GonNa make between fifty and one hundred million G. does you no brainer. I'm gonNA appeal to their sense of altruism and their sense of being a part of a bigger hole that if it comes down to this you find your solution and you don't just look after yourself and the money you're GonNa make from the club World Cup because obviously it might come down to these clubs saying choosing UEFA OVER FETA or vice versa. And I think it's important that fans care about this. They make sure they make their voices heard and Wine to other solutions have been suggested one would be having a winter break so to speak in midseason In twenty twenty twenty twenty twenty one next season and playing the euro then. I think that's kind of weird and odd and unwieldy so that would be a symptom as the Africa Cup of Nation Right. Yeah the in January today advantages. Obviously people stop Africa Cup of Nations. Those guys are leaving and that's not my preferred option. One of the thing they could do. It might be a little less lucrative and obviously you beat scrapping the nation's first season but it's still UEFA competition is. You've got six slots right. You've got three international break. September October November. Two Games each you could play group. Games An and around a sixty and whatnot there and then you play the final four in place of the nation's final four. Yeah Yeah that's a possibility because again as we said because in twelve cities you could easily do that you'll be like like no way trip anybody's GonNa WanNa go to Baku. No WanNa go now Yeah that's something that's viable. Somebody will almost be like no marches. You might say to the original European Championship So these are things to think about We'll we'll get better on Tuesday morning after the meeting Tuesday morning Wednesday morning. Yeah on Wednesday. I think it is something to consider Joe's Football's reaction as well in terms of in terms of the authorities down. The line has been overall and I think with some justification the football federations and leagues and clubs. They're not government are not epidemiologists not doctors. They follow the official advice. Think it's a way to cover their rear ends as well and we had a situation Last week Wayne Rooney wrote about this very eloquently guy wedding. This time he is angry he said why does it take? Mikhailova late Thursday night announcing that he has tested positive for the corona virus for football to shut down the government advice here in the United Kingdom until that point has been We're not going to ban large gathering Eventually later they did and of course they banned the large gatherings a- and it still is because over certain number you have to have X. amount of ambulances and police there in this way they can keep them free they're not banning them because of the risk of exposure or contagion. Different people have different opinions on that. They're just going to say it's rather different advice and reasoning and logic is applied most of the rest of the shows a different strategy to that. Right Unity Yeah Who knows but I do find it extraordinary that when you know. The entire Arsenal squad is at risk because Angeles mighty hockey's The owner only played against Arsenal. He later come out and he said. I've tested positive that you're you're just GONNA wait. You're you're GONNA wait wait until Friday morning to suspend everything you're GonNa wait for some of these guys to test positive when people have been forty nine self-isolation. I think Rooney has a point. I am surprised how passive a lot of these footballers have been and Yeah I the first point is wise when we need the first one really to come to come out so strongly against those crazy decision from from the Gandhi the F. As well two of wanting to play for so long I mean. Let's not forget forty eight minutes before the Arsenal state Minoru Makihata. The pretty statement themselves saying everything is going to go like normal like if nothing had happened. We don't have all the games this weekend long behind closed doors with all the fines. All this is like and you would think you already really. Do you think the players are kind of passive on this or do you think they've been told by the club's don't express an opinion on what the primarily doing? I find it extraordinary. That you've got twenty clubs. You've got five hundred primarily players and nobody comes out and says what the hell are we doing? Why are we playing? You don't even have one. Scaredy cat was the Kondracke it takes. It takes thirty for thirty four years. Old are ever all the as. Who's made all his money. Who's in the championship takes and who is the? You know the master of his domain Darby County. I got nothing to lose for him to come out and speak pretty extorting. That'S PRETTY. It's pretty bad from all those players that you said all those big stars whoever who who enlisted maybe. They didn't realize how bad the situation was. And maybe they throw. Yeah we can you know. England seems to be a bit behind everybody else and we can love those players. Have Families in Italy? In Spain in France and Germany would see the damage. The viruses already done there and they were thinking. I don't want this should not even have wanted to play. Someone should have come in and said other multiplayer. Otherwise travel to Brighton on Saturday. I don't WanNa go. They're the ones who go there and it was just. I was stunned by nothing. I find extraordinary even for those who watch the clip of your club losing cool with With our colleague Martin Arnstein when he was asked in the pre-match press conference Out of the political game when when he was asked. We'll do you feel about you. Know Spain's on lockdown place. Come here and he kind of like well. Where are you calling from? You came from Spain. I thought it was a situation where I couldn't understand what point was agree other than I've felt to me. Maybe I'm maybe KLOPP and I'm biased here. But I think he's like Oh young man. There's so much crap. I WanNa tell you about decisions that are being made but I simply cannot right now. I mean how it sounded to me. Yeah I agree with you completely like like almost criminal sake. Zaki was thinking of like these games should never be on anyway. You know and and I love to say I went there and I do think they're an appears you get on the IPAD and I was like this stadium is empty. We hear this like afford fifty thousand five hundred thousand people in this stage. Three thousand of them come from Spain which she's the the second most European country with the most positive from which was officially unlocked efficient logged on their here. They're like right. You know I just did my life. Hicfa FRENCH TV leisurely fifteen yards from them. And I'm like yeah and I think maybe you're right. Maybe club was thinking we should never be here. We should never have a press conference here in the first place. That press conference was on when if you are the press conferences like before the PG again was completely cancelled and yet club had to answer those questions. Maybe he was thinking how to be with with us. Punish people for example Nelson Spanish people? But you know he might have felt like no safe really wants to be surrounded by English people. I anybody who wants to be home and KLOPP castle with his family and following the advice that most people including people in Germany which is where he's from has been given and I think this is what leads to so much infusion especially that primarily which is the most by far the most international league in the world both in terms of the number of players the number of coaches the number of owners. There are a lot of people are answering the same question. I mean Angela Baldness spoke out about a few others it's it's pretty extraordinary. And I think when all this is over think a lot of people might want to review some of the practices and the way things have gone. Joe's we normally do champions look back feels like it wasn't determinant whether they play the those rounded sixteen games But you know what it gives us a chance to talk about football. Yeah which is. Yeah which is Kinda Nice Well of the matches that actually were played What surprised you I mean. Obviously the I suppose we gotta start with Madrid. Yeah going to Liverpool was at the game It was surreal because obviously the same night was behind closed doors and on failed. The atmosphere was pretty pretty impressive. Three thousand nine hundred co-fund traveled from Spain for the game the flag in their in their way and as well but the atmosphere was incredible and there was a sense that often from the beginning that Liverpool. The player defines the start. Everybody knew that some point they would make you know the did they would come back into the game into the tie that we score Gordon. Maybe two and then the game will be over although we had so many chances. Yeah I mean they had rejoined the dominated. Yeah sixty two crosses a thing. They had thirty four shots. I think eleven targets are no black maids. Ten eleven saves. She's the most never ever ever millionaire music game or something like that. I was the numbers. If you just look at the numbers the possession which was I think seventy seven percent of in the first half goals he experts goes everything if you look at the stats never put just bust game from start to finish the low three two but even if you watch the Game Boston. Yeah of course if you won't say I'm just curious because we've talked about how Liverpool hadn't been going through the simply haven't played. Wow in a long time. Then they suddenly turned it on for this game and you know like who knows when we'll see them play again. That's something that really impressed me because you have this whole negative vibe going through which you don't just even when they were winning they weren't playing well and then suddenly when it mattered. I mean people say I'm too obsessed with performance over results but then when it mattered compare. They were outstanding they were. They were amazing. Inaugu messages from couldn't finish conditions. If you look at the independence and itself it was it was certainly their best performance in the last four months I think without a doubt Maybe the best performances the city game in the League Muckleshoot going to so. What at least likely. Hey do you want to know what makes me mad at the game? And that's really stray away. I didn't need a replay Arianna. No because people keep blame blaming drian fair enough. Of course you should get the votes on the waste on the honor doing on the I corps when when Joel phillies guest aboard and dust is very nice inside. Pots democracy Mente. Traffic's on on that time he's he's literally should to shoulder with the and then he stops and there's no more pressure from him on your rent before the shot. Let me finish. There's no pressure from Egypt. Li Literally Stops. He stopped running. And your NT hustling only a couple of yards ahead of him and can he daschle very easily and scoring the second goal on the concert. From from Murata Good Movement for Murata. He does ever great. Good moment from urinate. The two of them Henderson and Joe Gomez and both of them are no point in the talk. Put any pressure on your rent. The second go to even to the point that is on his left foot. And he's a he's a right footed player he's instead of showing him on the side on his left. They allow him to go back on his foot and shoot degree with. I'M ON I. I was really surprised by you know I drown is the Guy is going to be crucified. Never but Joe Gomez Man Henderson an entrance as well if you wish again. It's a disgrace the way the defendant understood goes Probably treasure man versus dormant. I I was. I was confident. Pilotage view more than me. You're going to apologize to all these dyes. I didn't think they had Muslims close as the scores suggest. Sarno a they were. They were mix posted. Allman had no sean targets in the second half example but in terms of discipline in terms of collectiveness togetherness that that sort of working together. Tim Spirit of you might be great on the Bowl. And they all are is a very talented team on the ball. But if you don't play as a team you never gonNA go anywhere right. And I think from from for many years with two Hobart with emory as well and even with blown before the the the Harley played as a team in those begins and to see them doing here on Wednesday with no in the stadium was was. Maybe that's why maybe the. Maybe you were fantastic before the game for for the people who haven't seen all the federal. I'm sure everybody in the weather. Steve supported the team. And not so fantastic. Congregating the communion after the game was great. The the name all behaved Grey nor does the Goldberg everything. And then there was the trolling. It's kind of. Just have a couple of million on the trolling. Sell all look at your team. That is grazed Detroit in the nineteen year old kid in Holland because they reproduce goats and abrasion. Let's not forget after the first leg. Dahmane want to one at home. Who which winning who Dorman but does our wacky. German social media of course so that doesn't Count Fund because you know how two hundred Gropius G. M. Richon so that he wants to play you in the next round and and and the official don't count themselves. Were saying Franson Evola with to win win. Okay who gonNA troll now. Who are you gonNa if you if you told people get ready to get short be ready to get? That's the way he was otherwise. Don't troll genuinely said about it on social media but what. I'm saying all your team is did these into Holland. Believe me what the beasts can handle it exotic link kind of verbals you throw it exactly What about your? Cpa chips? Because believe though that Game Valencia was behind closed doors again and all of that before him. I thirty two years of age to go out like this in a in a timber. Sleek last sixteen second-leg and okay. The game was pretty much one after the first labour still has four. Goals is just incredible. Isn't it. It's three the whole the whole thing? The whole onto storage crazy. I've got a I. I wrote a piece about this afterwards. About how these really shouldn't work. It shouldn't work for hundred one different reasons they should be in this position You normally when you have underdog stories and this is a tremendous underdog story normally you have outstanding individuals who are going to go to the next level honestly apart from maybe Robin Goossens. And you know how excited you're going to get five year old. German fullback None of these guys are going to another level. You know their races. Ron Yeah I would I love. Is You village? Cheech improper Gomez. Those are two guys who throughout their career. People's people look at chicken says. Yeah okay you got straight talk. You don't have the personality for it. You know you're flaky. There's a whole tradition of is. We love stereotyping in football. There's a whole tradition of Tall East European hypes with whose names and let's face it. It's the same knock this Latin Abrahim of each other for the first ten years before he became the Wolfman or whatever he is you know. And you're showing that you know what this is my level if you're being nobody believing in his day. Robbie's recognizes talent but he didn't believe he had the personality or the honus to go. And make this work. Papa Gomez quite think is phenomenal player. Too small the guy the guy smaller than messy. You want his first cap for Argentina two years. Do you know some of the absolute muppets. Capture Argentina in the last couple of years. The Guy at the windows thirty two years old passed over by every big team time and again because he's too little I know there's so many wonderful stories like that in a really kind of is a collection of wave strays no names People had shots at bigger clubs and then were sent back like like Duval. Ponta like Mario possibly to technically. I think it's still a Chelsea player and I know I it's tremendous and since like your social media. Of course this is a team that has not one but two players who have recorded successful Music videos and you can choose between like because of course Papa Gomez pop dance which is extremely catchy and and Galina goalkeeper Has his own slightly more traditional old school. But it's it's pretty sweet guarany Gasperini. Because he's he's the architect griped of everything and as an HR heating their pick number thirty two when maybe nobody expected it. But he's the guy was Najjar that team together also the philosophy. The style of play was. She's a very intense critical look. Nobody plays like this in Europe. Nobody nobody certainly no team with us with this talent. You know they understand a very basic concept that even if if I create one on one battles over the pitch even if you're better than me it's not such a bad thing if I have the one on one conceding. A one on one with an average defender against a very good striker any open field which you know most clubs hold terrible you know you look at the numbers. It's actually difficult to beat a player and get your shot off and score and sometimes the advantage you get at the other pit at the other end of the pitch makes it worth it I think it's tremendous a think they've they've scored against people say old. I haven't played them integrate defensible. They've scored against every big team. They face the season for Manchester City to Juventus to to the other teams in studio. So I think it's I think it's just a wonderful story and I hope we get to see them again this season and also for Barack Obama. Who's one of the the region the most heat by batteries in back in Italy? You must allow people to love. Love and and hope is what absolutely Finally Live Sake. Who saw who thought that I could go and do something. You Know Wendy Righteous Marino. Obviously looking clearly. Yeah NO PROFESSIONAL. They were they were in control from the first minute and yet The vibe from Spurs was. We're not going to turn this around the wrong attitude. I know you have the billion guys injured yet. but equally doesn't mean you have to put out that kind of team play in that way that reaction from dumbbells that we were gonNA. We were expecting acting nuke nuclear. Get on the pitch. Stay on the bench Yeah I think I thought Marina after the game smiling and seeing all whether we're very good at the back there were agreement failed the regular honor we were gonNA address is willing to quick hits but I mean for me. There was the difference between a team forward thinking and a manager forward thinking whose idea who has a structure who was I mean the where they play the the how they used the whole width of the page? Those five like Bands or lines wherever you want to call air for the movement in the passing and everything is just sensational and on the other hand you avid team with no creativity. New idea manager. That lives in the past Tim guys going nowhere right now. Even with all those injuries and I don't think they would have changed anything really maybe instead of being forwarded aggregated maybe just to but I don't I don't have a problem with the way he plays if he thinks the right way. I don't know the right way. It's not the right way either but I don't. I don't have a problem with the VIBE. He gives this continuous negatively. That you know screw it. Go out there and try to play if you lose expected him from is the wrong such an odd situation and being from the Champions League two different types of Civil Mark Ogden up next has promised we're going to talk to mark Ogden joining us from his secret hideaway in Rochdale now audited. Something this past weekend that I didn't do. You didn't do partly because it would have been a pain in the butt for us to to to seek out games at this level where we live but also partly because we followed advice about. Algebra whatever Audited not there. You you wrote a piece in this. You went to A seventh tier football match. Because of course the premier national Kept going to kept playing this weekend in England even after the Premier League. Efl called off matches right. Yeah so the northern Premier League is the seventh to the National League which is was slow. Going ahead book. The cliff used to play in the National League. So I think half the gains were called off so I decided to go to a national league game on the basis. The people will want to go to football. If you want something hard enough you'll find it and it was the only game in in Great Manchester in almost north of England because it was a game called off. So yeah I'd say you point. I ignored official advice with advice in the UK as you know. Is that large gatherings problem. It's just a problem in terms of the strain it puts on the emergency services. You have to attend large gatherings in excess of five hundred. So what's the game? Four hundred and eight hundred ended up so it might be go ahead and actually it was. Yeah it was interested in good fun and it might be the last time for a while. Now you I was struck by the fact that you you quoted somebody who described himself as a as a wolf side with his with his kid I think. And he said you know I'm having football withdrawal or I wanted to find some football and I. This was nearby or whatever I certainly did you get you obviously got the sense a in a story that a big chunk of the people who showed up Where people just wanted to watch football and maybe knew nothing about the two teams or weren't regular fans. Yeah absolutely and if I want to drop some names here the Frank Sinclair ex-chelsea play. Was the Kevin Campbell that in play and antidotes in the whole place so I have no idea what they were doing. Because it's not so again with defined plays a scheduled for primarily close but it was straight times but people do strange things and whether they thought I need to see some footballer. I just need to get out of the house. I'm not so sure but it was. It was interested in the fact that there's a twenty five percent bigger gate bigger attendance for that game than they would normally get so clearly. A lot of people walked up and decided what so there was no sentenced. I found that people were feel that they were taking risks. That they were you do so they should be doing is maybe surprise thing. Maybe said the sense that we haven't been told what the reality is. There's a big difference but the view is basically you know we're up we'll be okay for now you know we're fine. There is listening to that is that is the reality. We can't hide from that. We can't we can't say everyone has the same view of it. A lot of people think that this has been blown out of proportion and that starts there have you. Did you think there would be more games next weekend? That was that was the last time they could play until the four while the other leagues all with keep going to play. If there's less than five hundred people coming to the Games well. I spoke to the chairman of the game. And he said there's a there's a meeting. Today is that a northern primarily meeting where he expect games to be called off now rackliff response to play Grantham town on Tuesday but one of the ground places according to people at Radcliffe showing symptoms of Kobe. Nineteen Games off so I just think that there will be sensible and the advice one of the interesting. Things that the chairman's whole that that level the player's contract and as soon as the season and so the game of the season due to April twenty six days when the plays contracts and there isn't like in the primary goal across your waist June thirtieth April twenty six last game contract and which means that these lips don't have to find money for three most season pay wages because even though it's maybe twenty thousand pounds a week he's still a lot of money for clubs that level and I have no idea how staining roughly forgetting three hundred and fifty people a week how they pay wages of two hundred three hundred pound pizza place. I don't know about the view is the League is council. Today the northern primarily then the season will end so players will not be entitled to pay from the pond so players who are part time who got jobs in the real world. Builders fireman dentists fitness instructors all sorts getting paid. Maybe the next two to three hundred pound a week on top of that regular income. That could be a big hole in their income but the bigger issue basically what the WHITBY chairman was set with. Selma's that Italy against today than these clubs who get a month where they don't have to pay wages an ultimate clubs of flow and I know this isn't the biggest deal right now we're seven zero four ballclub survivable when when we get back to real life in the real world again. This is the fact that you had such a big crowd of Saturday shows. That football is escapism. That people need you know. I think we will discover the next few weeks. How IMPORTANT SPORTS TO PEOPLE IN? How trivial is how important. It is quote Collagen which his quote which your cop stole from him. Although you're Kinda stole from somebody else saying that it's the most important of the unimportant things in life but it's a good point you make about a and I often struggle with this Especially when I hear about clubs in the NFL always complaining about how you know. Cash loan how stretch they are and whatever else I. I'm just wondering I'm just thinking out loud here. But this is a club in the seventh tier of English football And everybody talks about what an important you know how. What an important part of the community they are and whatever else but realistically they're never going to be promoted into the football league let alone the primarily right there almost playing a different sport. If none of those players were paid. Would they still because all these guys have have day jobs right principle? If none of those players were paid would the club still exist still have its function in the community Would they still train twice a week like they do now? Like what will be different. If these guys weren't getting there the two three hundred pounds a week. Wow I mean the the these guys needs to supplement their income I guess and they would find so they would find somewhere else to play money to pay their rent or to pay their mortgage here. Absolutely I think a lot of is. This level is people with clinging onto the dreams that they they could make a career in the game and obviously with the cliff captain. It was quite interesting story. He was the captain of Barry Start. The season went berry wanting to liquidate. Well kicked out of the League so he lost his job in September. And Barry were league. Join RATCLIFFE's captain and all of a sudden you find yourself potentially losing job again you know because that level footballers the the need the need to work in the real world and this is a great disciplinarian come a little bit and talk the focal point of the community. I was I was in the plays bar and they still have players with that level. Twenty years ago the privilege with the case before us some vengeance everything but they a place bar and again. That's a massive part of raising funds and next Saturday's due to the club's seventieth anniversary so they had a better night planned were live entertainment and hot food. Although this this kind of thing and people might laugh for that sort of thing keeps to go in and the guy who the guy who fought the pitcher seventy six. What these people live for. No I I got on that on saying is do need to pay people like if you didn't pay people didn't pay the players to do. This is just economics of it. If you didn't pay could you still have the players bar in the seventy six year old groundskeeper whatever? Could you still do that? I mean would you community. He lost community. But if for nothing you know because because every weekend millions of people go and play in an amateur leagues up and down the country. I mean if we're talking about men Y twenty eight thirty years old newsflash. You'RE NOT GONNA go from Radcliffe. Obviously the Berry captain's Is a slightly different situation. But YOU'RE NOT GONNA go from Radcliffe Dementia United ever unless you buy a ticket. So what if rather than paying these guys two hundred pounds a week you live within your means you don't create a situation where the club risk going under you know every time there's a crisis or there's flooding and you can't play for a month You could use still preserved that whole community cents. That whole value of the club within the within the community. Could you even take some of the money that you save and spend it on facilities and whatever else because these people have no business playing professional football or even semi professional football? If you have a remnant of Ital- something if you if you almost but never did union late twenty first and you can still make some money and then. Why shouldn't you do if you know if these guys are players? I'm just wondering about the system that encourages. You've got many more semi professional clubs now than you had before. Not just I mean the fact that extends down to the seventh tier of the of the Pyramid. And then every time. There's a crisis. These clubs are in danger going bust yet so many professional clubs if they're not sustainable this crisis in this. This is president crisis. I think even chumps to get through this never mind clubs in the several is I was looking at the league. The northern Premier League in some of the names in that they give you a sense of why these things exists other collieries which is clearly a team based at the from the coal mines and other local pride thing and if rock little play these guys wages go play for whip. Go and play for. Fc United to go play with somebody else. It's not charity down there like you save. If they have a talent level is to do something to be paid for by. Not You know some of these guys. Are you know the two or three jobs because the the main job was paying off to pay the bills so then I think obviously the never going to get huge crowds but it it means the world to the three three hundred fifty people turn up every week. If you're if you're Ivan the kit the seventy six. And he's Falk in the ground at half past seven on the saudi-born intellectually gang was on. That tells you what this thing means to the seventy six year old grandson. He's really following government advice about holder. But whatever I mean I guess all I'm saying is I think it's pretty evident that These clubs are server really really important function in a community. I just want some point to preserve that you need to look at whether they should be semi professional whether well. But that's also reward for your talent so I if all the clubs in the top four weeks don't don't pay any wages so goo- people great players you got some really good praising. The Seventh League seven division would know what what would get any money? They say it's like you all playing football right. Yeah and this is this is this is basically you know if you look at the Food Chinese food football but he still is still part of the food chairman. We're talk. We're talking to sit on texting up about the referee. Cloudier which is quite incredible story. This guy was referenced. Syria two years ago now. He's refereeing Stainton Park on Saturday afternoon at four hundred eighty people because he's trying to keep refereeing career going the cavin left. It's incredible story but this gives the guy the opportunity to do that even so far down. The Leagues and also does get better sponsorship money. Some people come and sponsor their club because the level is better than than in the Fifteenth Division. No I don't see any of that but I'm just wondering if those resources all those wages which go go to your backup right back go on making sure. The club is on really solid footing. So that it doesn't disappear from one day to the next because developer buys the buys the ground to go build a supermarket or whatever behind dot like that. You would hope let's go under every day. Because he's the author survive some of these survive. The handsome earth exists but we still survive find a way to survive even so it obviously for these clubs to survive. That's all I'm saying cabbies learning for ahead of the next election and he's got a ruthless up. Augie thanks so much noise guys. Check out Oggi's piece. It's on the website It's I I thought it was an interesting read. Joe's I I I've seen football at that level there's obviously a hardcore that of support in small towns less so in bigger cities obviously It serves a really important function You just hope that the players health is put at risk because tell you what they sure as hell don't have fancy medical insurance like your buddies at Arsenal no there was There was a few games on Saturday through the country in the fifth and sixth division. I could just seven division. The one in in Hampton Richmond Borough F C SO IN IN SOUTH LONDON. Three and a half thousand people to for that game in the sixth division. You know apart from the fact that yeah we all miss football and people wanted to go and watch whatever game was only could have been anything there when but it was also of student safety reasons and safety common sense that maybe could have come into. Joel's this seventh tier nonsense. And the seventy six year. Old Man How about some quick hits instead Joseph Marina? We told you this was coming. He bemoaned the injury. Crisis at Tottenham more facing when they got knocked out by life chicken said every player on the Leipzig bench would have got into his spurs eleven in this moment meaning with Berg vining. Cain those guys out Joel. I'm just GonNa remind you who was on the bench I'm GONNA DO Hydara. Use of Poulsen striker Emil Forsberg. Yeah a couple of years ago Tyler Adams Fair enough at Imola. Look I stretch Danny amount not this version and finally somebody named Yvonne in Vogue. Oh well I'm just GONNA say Francophone. Of course he's he's not better than a couple of mistakes in that game was terrible but I was exactly the the Marino tactics of okay. I missed again. So why am I going to do? I'm going to throw up lies under the bus So you're in the same interview. Players have potential but right now. They can't express their potential. What is died? They expect the potential. What was your job if you call hurricanes fault because he's injured exactly where ECON expressive potential. Because he's injured. I mean on that list than you're more is yet based typically the kind of play that I could get instead. They went to get Justin Finan days. He's also the kind of player you know. Barillot would like yeah exactly. Oh too much creativity too much. Flair to skinny doesn't run enough at least not for what I want him to run for. So it's a big. No Oakland looks like a child. I mean Tyler Adams just come back from a long term injury so maybe thinking and is I mean I i. It doesn't make any sense and again is to deflect from his own mess and he's whole failure that he used things like this. I'm not down on just as you think. July first ball who knows given the situation wherein he said big reset next season. Judge them then. I'll be really curious to see what he puts together. A colleague John Sutcliffe is reporting guy makes owners are still Mackie's and the kiss those of us who are rollet. Nagai make his owners to considering a merger with MLS Major League soccer after the twenty twenty six worker that will be organized by Canada Mexico and the US as well so maybe the star of the ownership is dead. Gob Do think I do think into is a good idea. I mean there's so many details to be ironed out here because you're talking fifty teams NAM. It would be twenty teams from joining the thirty. Mls teams Which believe I'm trying to think if I've forgotten somebody but I think twenty seven Us teams in three Canadian teams. I Dunno it's a good idea but I don't WanNa see something driven by money I'd want some real answers promotion and relegations. You can make two divisions maybe even three divisions and in that case it'd close is a closed league now it would open up. I think it would need to happen. I mean you know. Obviously there's been a judgment. Obviously I'm continues. Some owners continue to insist that it's not viable Blah Blah Blah without promotion relegation few merge with a real league. That's historically that's been around for. I don't know how many years you have to accept I don't know again fifty teams. I don't know how you do it. I don't know travel wise. How it would work? Obviously you would. You would have to have different tiers to it but then again. That's Kinda even if you promotion relegation within those fifty teams in the same problem. Why do I want and why owner of FC Cincinnati or whatever the hell? It's called her Minnesota United. I've just plunked down one hundred fifty million dollars. Why do I WANNA be in the third tier of a new? Mos League Amex or Iraqis against you know deaconess. I I don't know I mean. Is this what I signed up for? No Look. I'm glad that they're talking. You know why they're talking They're talking about money. I think I think obviously this would need a lot of regulatory approval from CONSECO. Obviously from the two federations. I hope they think this through. Very very clearly And through about you know in charge of what actually benefits the gross of the game? Maybe there's something like this if you open up the pyramid further But you think of the travel. The travel times at distances. I don't know it feels. It feels like a land grab. I need to see a proposal. You know I was league. I make other weekend and Sunday morning. I wish the what is against the Tigris because on Virginia the French striker scored again for grace and that was really good game. It's a really good league. I think we'll genie back funny. Because he's somebody. I said all right when he went to Mexico personnel. Gene was just kind of like you know a refrigerator sized man with one foot who doesn't run and I saw all right. What are you doing Mexico given the climate and the weather and stuff like that? I think he thought to be fair when he man he's proven me wrong five year. Almost five is being denies. He loves it. Banging golden hundred and ten goals since he arrived and obviously he became tigresses. record goalscorer in history. I think a few weeks ago And in twenty twenty at the age of almost thirty five is still banging. The goal is crazy. Wanted Story that really an incredible story for someone who were so attached to the south east of Franz Way Gr- Obviously Marseille and story there to move or the other side of the world in Mexico. Didn't speaking not speaking the language or anything really hard. Learn about your friends. It doesn't matter I still. We still struggling in another country culture and everything but to to have that kind of impact to be loved the way to love the country and the city of Monterrey as much as he made. I think he's is one. How many center four is you get injured before? Duchamp gives them a call law. She you know he's the Meyer. He's the man forever. Who would be the man who hit the post in the US? Final Twenty six. The final score was new nil. He shots and he said talk show and he does everything so wet against Portugal before for five five centimeters on the rights egos in and he's a national hero. It's crazy choosing deschamps. Still hold that against him. I don't think that that really on and off relationship for many years but I imagine imagine if like they make a list make a list and now tell how many people need to need to get into. I'm sure obviously you ru and babe's Mun Grease Mun. May I play are maybe Mussa better? The the only way I even think that someone I it Wa. Who's doing Soda Celtic Mice? Just ahead of a long shot. You mentioned five people. There's not been year so there's a few like that. One guy is definitely had an onscreen bend of course lesson now. That's what I think. This might have been the last major game played in Europe for a while. Jews who says we've just seen you're addicted to football. I bet you were watching. Yeah I mean I've watched highlights of the Russian league as well and there's any win and Malcolm scoring is is i Gordon. Senate destroyed era. Was it last six. One Malcolm School. Do you know the the famous transferred from Barcelona in the summer that he wanted to leave imaginary player. Yeah exactly yeah And you had to shoot games in Turkey. You are not just got this word basic these. Tom Darby that finished in that was dire. That was really really bad. I brought his eric. Yeah but as Eric with no fines either. An empty stadium like highly. No Sean Target. It was just like but before that your so hard. I second trombones Paul Against Russia here with a few former premier league players Martin skirts or go to known goal For against buttocks stickier for trust Baba's call for bank share's well galaxy. She was. There was a girl I know. But we've got two names was on the bench and whose hobby by the way that the League is still going on in Turkey and neither Falco who prey forgotten evening so one one. This one finished a bit better than the Galatasaray breakfast you know when. There's no football you will. You have to find some football. So Ukraine played as well. Serbia played as well and then River Plate. Did you see that didn't play in South America the origin or now both Argentina? Brazil been suspended that they were not spending the weekend and two crewmen came to be decided is to play against replay. The referee Barista played worn them before. We're not going to play. We don't want to play a game. So the stadium was locked and there was no games and I think we will be hit by very very very big fine for refusing to pay again. Basically the game was on. It was officially on and they refused to play locked on this logged on this day. Jim Because obviously the of the virus in all the implication In terms of health is who could could also That's one to four but yet no against River Plate. Plenty of footballers exercising on social media of course and grease merchants lifting magnums of one on his balcony overlooking the Bay of Naples says rumours huffing and puffing away on his treadmill we saw a regular in in an ecclesiastic playing a severe. Betty's game on five hundred twenty live on on twitch as well if you're still on Sunday night. Gabe what's your favorite for more training. Home-video watch the bunch of these last night. The Creativity Oh creativity over obviously cheat. Manson's I mean that was just so just so appropriate in a trying bottle of wine We touched upon this before We're GONNA see Wacky nece like this. These guys are pros are doing the best. They can some of them have gardens where they can Where they can run around in Don't play it's as simple as that and how they're going to go and figure this out. I don't know but certainly keeping US entertained the one of carrying benzene I think the first day of of the he's quarantine and y you know that turning granny's closed and after just a few is pushing the video infringe going like this is. This is too hard on. Border is only a few hours radio. Know what to do and I think that's the thing as well is that there will be a point. Where they're they're they're still have to exercise a little bit like we said they would be missing training and playing so much today. They won't know what to do. Well I think it said say we all miss it will miss them But as we said at the top of the show Public Health comes first. So we're going to be back hopefully on Wednesday to fill you in on what comes out of the the big UEFA meeting. In the meantime stay safe and catch.

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PMS 2.0 499 - Aaron Rodgers Tuesday Week 2, Monday Night Manning Recap, Erin Andrews, & AJ Hawk

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PMS 2.0 499 - Aaron Rodgers Tuesday Week 2, Monday Night Manning Recap, Erin Andrews, & AJ Hawk

"Hello it is. Aaron rodgers tuesday september twenty first. Two thousand twenty one. Aaron joins us. Aj hawk joins us. Aaron injuries joins us. The boys are on fire. It's a great day to be alive chit chat a little bit about my appearance on monday. Night manning an absolute blast can't thank you enough allowing us to penetrate your ear holes. Let's get to it. Wanna make one formal announcement. I'm fucking back to bro. Last night was awesome. Obviously last night was very cool evening for me. I got a chance to chit chat with an old friend a new friend on. Espn two and tell some stories that are tried and true. I was basically like a pastor a preschool into the bible. And i'm saying that. Just because one particular reason i've told stories throughout my life. There are a couple that have seemed to hit at all times. The be blake seems to be the stories that hit all the time in the priests and preachers job is to tell the story in a different fashion. I've told some of the stores that sell last night in years did not know i was going to be telling him either so immediately upon the question being asked. I'm like oh my god. It's revisit dinner revisit sinoe night it was just i had so much fun. So thankful for the opportunity. Obviously payton omaha productions me over their allies legend. Great chatting with him on this show yesterday. And i hope you know. We had some some behind the scenes shots. My wife of me setting up in my thoughts going into it. I don't think there has been a time where guests come on that show where does not necessarily up the quality of the show there has been great clips that have come out from people. Great quotes coming out of people but the way that things set up with three different locations. Basically it's on a facetime like the show and you could. If you didn't know peyton personally eli personally. I think you could be a little bit gun. Shy maybe need for gun shy with a little bit of a lag in the tech thing. People are gonna step on each other. I literally want him there with the mindset. Hey i'm coming in guns blazing all right. I have the ability to become. Because i know this both of these people rather well. I have some stories. But also i've been watching the last seven guests in. It's like if you wait at all. It's over. We had a couple of moments where we stepped on each other. I try to get out of there was good times. I think overall aside from the little tech things that people can maybe pick apart about this. It's an internet show happening on. Espn two with peyton. Manning eli manning so there's gonna be some. I love that show some incredible fucking love it. I enjoyed the first three quarters when i was watching. Just kind of scene was going to go on. I was going to do some call backs to some things that he said early. The amount of football information that you spills out of their mouths in the middle of a game is insane. I mean we knew very early. That the detroit lions running cover to in the reason why they were running. The ball is because the detroit. Lions were literally testing aaron rodgers on whether or not he would throw the ball or just continue to run it. We heard that the entire game from peyton and eli then. They switch back to an interview with aaron rodgers on the field. And they go what happened. Well they're running kind of cover to that entire time so we had to be very patient with it was like i feel like i got the entire game plan almost while watching it alongside peyton and eli football nerd. I think that shows only going to get better and better. And i am so grateful to be watching it and also in credit. It'd be a part of it. But also incredibly grateful that i'm fucking back packers minus eleven and a half the people the hottest prognosticators that i have in my life mc one five and one this past weekend on hammer down. He said lions postal huggy. Aj ten and three on the entire weekend against the spread he goes packers will win lions eleven and half everybody was basically saying the the packers minus eleven and a half classic mush mcafee situation. I was put it out there and everybody else is gonna win. We cover up. It was close. I mean jerry. Doctor that balkin who. I was sweating rather handsomely. I mean it was coming down there. The overheads points were scored. It was glorious evening for me. And i can't wait to talk to aaron rodgers about it here in about an hour and fifty four minutes or so. He has to be feeling pretty damn good. There was a lot of people attacking him all week. Oh he's too nonchalant. he doesn't care. Why is he doing this. Why is he doing a show and so comfortable and relaxed. Just got shellacked by the new orleans saints jacksonville and i think all he was doing exactly what he does every week by way. Look for the same exact human probably today on the show and look for a guy who will probably understand. This was going to happen. He knew this is probably going to happen. And i can't wait to chit chat with him. He did give a little Most of the things that are sitting here is bullshit. Bill actually the media. I think that's that's fascinating relationship. I'm excited to watch grow. You know through the media people who are obviously potentially on the green bay packers organization side and they have to be by the way because if aaron was to leave guess who's gonna stay there. The packers still be in that media person will still be there so they have to be on the packers side. This is tom. Ekern up there in new england. Whenever tom left and the patriots are still there. Tommy turn was kind of kind of sided with. He was like tom brady. Has some points here in the patriots did not not here that this is. This is a situation. That's going to continue to play out here. I assume aaron in the green bay packers are gonna be able to get in good graces. There should be more communication. I think that is already happening in this entire thing but that that is a story to watch along as we go because it feels like aaron is at a point where he will just tell the truth like a lot of you guys are cooking up a bunch of bullshit narratives in here. It's all a bunch of garbage to some. There's obviously incredible media. I'm just saying in some situations. It felt like that was how it was. Aaron was being pro-trade as a guy that didn't care about his team. He was jumping in waterfalls. He wasn't not as they lose. Thirty eight three. He somehow not crying about it two days later. He's not upset about it. Sweating about it throwing a temper tantrum about two days later. This guy doesn't even and then they just go beat the doors of the detroit lions. I think he had like two incompletions at one point three touchdowns or it was absurd. They're now very patient. Obviously aaron jones dominated. They found his chain by the way that had his dad's ashes in it. That's great news at about two. Am i think an athletic trainer one back out on lambeau and found it. Incredible story there. Aaron jones incredible ballplayer. The border davante adams big bob tanya and then listening to peyton and eli breakdown. Like why are the lions doing this on third and twelve. You've literally been doing something different. Y on the most important play. Are you going to man coverage and devante up and out rate in the bucket. How you doing. I mean it was was a beautiful game. It was a great thing and Feels like big mos- running back through my body. Yeah big mount talking about being momentum. Care that into thursday and then saturday on monday. I ain't looking back. I'm doing this thing the rest of the season. I believe i'm feeling good about myself. Still a losing record on season. But i was a big night The boys have toxic table here at boston. Connor at tie schmidt at tie schmidt is an owner of the green bay packers organization to watch that team do what they did to the detroit lions last night. How'd that make you feel if feels like the conversations this team nine should elise subside for another couple of weeks right. Yeah i mean that was to be expected. We said yesterday as get right game. I think a lot of people would have been very very worried if this one would have come down to the very end. But it's not over action monday. So i'm not going to overreact. I mean we knew the defense. I mean we knew the offense was going to be just fine when they kind of started getting their groove like this defense steaks and granted. They got scenario smith. Our best player out there is hurt right now but like they didn't get any pressure on all night. Really i mean the people were saying. Oh in the second half. They looked better. I mean jared goff wants the weather got bad or like the ball got a little bit wet. He just couldn't hold onto. It fumbled a couple times. I mean they got a couple of pressures but kevin king same thing as last year it was just. It's tough to look at that and be excited. It feels just like the packers teams of the passwords. Like they're going to have to score forty two to forty five points a game to win. Otherwise you can't rely on that defence against stops it did feel like a peyton and eli or maybe waiting for the green bay packers defense coordinator and make a terrible call and it did happen. Yeah now payton is obviously going to be very pro quarterback forever. He's he's actually said that last night. Like i'm gonna be pro quarterback. He's playing quarterback for both teams on these monday night game so much. That actually asked them. Are you regretting now that you have to because his preparation is only one way. I think i think he only knows how to watch film one way. And that's like so much. He's preparing to be quarterback. I think for both of these teams and he'll find a nice group in there but i think what he realized what that packers defense last week. He mentioned a couple times at aaron and the offense rolling field twelve times in the first half they only at twelve plays and defense going to get off the field and obviously aaron wasn't making anything happened to play complementary football. You need defense. Get the other team off the field in the offense. You need a couple i down here so everybody can get a good break. You know. it's like one of those situations. They called some men coverage scheme at sometime in pain was just sitting there like this is not what i would call in cole. Cubelic tweeted this out. I believe digs did as well and a couple of others listening to them talk. It's almost like they should be defensive coordinators and this is kind of the brain staley story over there at the los angeles chargers former defensive coordinator for the los angeles rams former quarterback for the university of dayton. And they always say well well. He's quarterback but he also knows it's like listening to peyton. Eli talk about the defense is. It's almost like peyton was like this is not what i wanna see in this situation. This is not what. I want to see him this situation. Why are they not doing this. Basically it's almost like how come quarterbacks always good offense corner maybe they should just think about a couple of these super football. Iq folks and just a super high football iq quarterbacks be. Let's put you on defense side of the ball so you have. This thing goes. Let me you might not be able to relate to them as quickly as quickly and you might not know other terminology. You'll get it. You'll figure it out and then just call what you wouldn't wanna see. That was a fascinating. Take in kind. Of what. I i think we all kind of seat from the peyton and eli kass last night. But they're sitting on the green bay packers defense wait and have they couldn't stop. Now i mean erin was rolling rolling. Roll enroll enrolling touchdown. Then jared goff without a seven minute drive or something like that dade score and then it would go seventeen fourteen. they're down. You know what. I mean in an errand hadn't had single i think at that point failed dr at all and people on the internet with dancing like oh backers are dead aaron stinks. It's i don't think he's had an incompletion. Has this guy you've had maybe two incompletions in the entire time. That defense going to have to tighten up. I don't know of. Joe berry is going to be a guy who's gonna be taken a lot of eros this year. I do know the patent did last year. And i'm not sure if joe berry's do much better than him right now and then i saw quote that leflore i think at halftime when joe berry and said either get pressure on golfer play better coverage and that really lit a fire under his ass. Ear stuff coaches i s. I mean i don't remember who tweeted it. But i just saw coach fires and and that kind of stuff used to happen with into like the they'd come out in the first half and just look fucking terrible and then floor lots fire under his ass and look good in the second half and then it's just it's groundhog day is just the same thing over and over. So say they did. They did they did. I mean in part of that was jared. Goff fumbling a snap and you know throw a bad pick yet just slipping slipping out of his hand. Guys never practice for the wet football before looked like Just like it outside of that stuff. I mean you're not gonna have guys shooting themselves in the foot week after week after week after week. So we'll see they gotta get much better saddam's zito's. Am this morning as well. Really an avid duke. Though it was act. That's what i'm saying like it was a smaller more robbery actually more gripping increase hands anyways i dunno gas doff add bacon out three four walker may on his hand but that ball did come right out. I'm sorry that going to eat out of his own looked like you know. Qb sits and looks like he hit it in it. I think i think he would. I think maybe his natural move is to hit it before. He's going to throw it in the media. I think it was the suddenness of the move where you like pull back. Yeah and then you also squeeze you know like i think tyler does. Sometimes when qatar is trying to throw it harder i think he grips it a little bit more and makes it come out as a duck like i think anybody that's earned football knows that like the tighter the grip doesn't necessarily mean the better things in sometimes when he tried to tighten a little bit. You could slip off there. But i'm not just backed up up of his own hands good strips kamina robert massa's gridiron gang. Did you get the whole thing happened. I loved see it. They were very close to covering the to has the andrea swift. Started getting loose in there. And you know shaw man. Unbelievable can tell kids. Anything is possible. Now those got the and then gough to throw and everything like that. That was a real sweater for me at boston. Connor what did you bet on last night if i do recall. Aaron jones two scores. I mean going forward now. I know you got a little on three touchdowns for jones. Because i was like plus twenty four hundred. What was the two plus touchdowns for jones plus four a spray escapade jewish. Hey we really hit that. A couple of units coupla four or five win start to at least that was good office. Run there did not score jim jamaa. What's that all about. Mc didn't want to get him in zone in green bay and his return. there. I saw aaron started targeting. Randall cobb pretty heavily in one and then actually did that. He got an area. That was a tough hit. I don't know how that's gonna go. Hopefully he's back there but jamal williams though totti's what's going on with them. Cd doesn't care about his players. I dunno arena. aaron jones. Play out just doing. The thing can go from that point on now but that play mcvay used to run a playoff time with the little touch off. Oh you're talking about the little odd about the role. I'm talking about the little touch stare. Joe ron williams do that somebody whenever the green bay packers defense stopping anybody early. I mean gets payback. You know a little bit of jamal back in your life. Green bay packers. What's that all about. Dc not about the players. I don't think we can blame asana. Mc dc they needed a touchdown in any way they could get it and see. I was on fire. Y'all wanna him hodgkinson's always in the end zone and him but since very straight cat he's very good in that fourth down. That was really the game when they didn't get that fourth-down hawk was wide open. But we just couldn't get to well. I mean it's always your sous. That's what mike glennon has been in the nfl about that golf on you know you thought slipped out of his hand but i as lying. It's actually saw. The calvin johnson curse comb from scott that the packers can have. Calvin johnson is a real thing and it is not being addressed properly. I've seen that game from the lions one million times. They do that every single time. I said it to ties. They weren't as close in the beginning. Everyone is gonna lose their minds and then air will come out at halftime in score right out of halftime like he always does. We'll make a mistake score again. Hey you guys one elected to receive by the way ask you actually asked for aaron to get it in the second half which i respect because if aaron comes out by the way if that offense comes out that i drive and does exactly what they did. That place is probably going to be. I mean not that it wasn't crazy. Lambo packed again by the way. Good for you guys out. There cheeseheads absolutely awesome. But he comes out there. He's gonna do what he's got to do. So i'm cdc had to make a decision they're like okay. Do we want get a big stop man or do we take offense out there and try and they did. Well only look good. But aaron did come out and i mean it was just. It was yeah. It was it was also wrote. I mean you got. Aaron scored four touchdowns. Give me a break. Big bob tightening get laser beam to his arms in the end zone. I mean davante. Adams didn't get his. They were looking for him a couple of times but he's still an absolute. I mean it feels like the conversations of aaron rodgers thinking a footballer over. But by the way i think lions played a lot better than i thought they were going up at heart to heart man or team flight. Berg beat by fifty man. What seventeen eighteen hundred you earn. He only got ball five. Six times scored every time but may our whole fucking good great to have that guy. He's about what did. Mcc after the game. That gosh fucking hard marrone digs was a lot of money made last night or lost by the sports books i i felt like all the people that were like maybe sharp too sharp. Maybe sharps are mainly sharp. Feels like they were all in on sharp's by the way what we're going with. Sharks is the original song unless you're talking about Jamie talk jamie. Welcome back by the way really. It is good to have him all doing love. That love that guy. It felt like the sharp stone. Half online's it felt like that was where a lot of the most public was on them to on the lines as well. Oh really so me. In the sports books had a great night last night. Yes that's awesome. What did you go on. Devante adams over yards. How many of you get one hundred seven. Did he did not get the over eighty seven. So yeah i mean devante adams. Aaron are always going to be good to go. Yeah i mean anytime. You got two people sharing instagram Things it's our last dance right. Did you see the fly over video. It was amazing. So aaron rodgers and davante adams are standing next to each other fly comes that might have been the biggest fighter jet. I've ever seen them all around. It was the it seemed to be about fifty three and a third wide. Wow look at maybe not fifty three but because fritzy third how wide the field is as it flew over. it looked like it was the entire size. Like the jumbotron on the top and it was one point and it was moving and As it's obviously has a national anthem sending in the shot is just on aaron and devante next to each other and you see and look up and then the shot goes up the thing and then he comes back to in and end handhelds crazy up and go and it's like these to really like each other. These do really like playing football with each other like that. Is something that andrew luck and t y hilton always said like hey i like point football with you like it is a lot of fun and if you go back to like when you're a kid and you actually played pick up pond stuff like that when you played with a guy that was so good or so much if you were a quarterback or the wide receiver. It was so much fun. I never really think about that until i heard andrew into y like say. They enjoyed playing football with each other. That's really what it is. You know it's just at the top level. Aaron devante seemed to be just like gronk and tom and the same exact way. I guess they're gonna catch peyton. Weird from graham and gronk by the way does not watch film. I just won by guys insane to think that he lasted that long. New england with just saying. Yeah you know what fucking just let them run by guys who doesn't have to watch them. Go take a nap back. Rob you'll be okay. I fucking love it. I mean this is nothing that you would normally hear from somebody especially nfl. Top one hundred player of all time. Yeah i don't really want payton's had explored by the way. I assume that he is hands. Well he did talk about the grunk. Did talk about the play. The trap play where it's a play action guard pool and then tight end releasing. Then you're basically just gimme over top of the linebackers. You had to bite because the the offense alum important. We heard that story above an nfl. Top one hundred and the whole thing that has happened in dallas. Clark scored a and then. Tom took that up. And basically that is where gronk is scored ninety touchdowns i think is what gronk said last night but thinking about gronk not watching film and just going up to tom and being like hey. Is there anything. I need know this week. Or whatever and it's on being okay so they come to do. This sounds easy gronk wind and then just go and do his thing dominate. That's amazing and that makes sense on. Why when they them under the detroit. Lions aside from the fact that it's detroit lions and it's potentially calvin johnson curse. He's probably also like the guy that tells me four sentences. Give me everything i need to know. He's all we do is win. I will retire right now. It makes a lot more sense why he won't tom. Brady's my quarterback he has said like numerous times and it makes sense if that has worked so well so much that you become like greatest tight end of all time in literally. The only film you have is v. Another person telling you what to do a only need to do a couple of things. There's film surfacing on the internet. Now of obviously tom telling gronk to do different things. Don't play one of the ones that was most obvious he literally goes gronk. Stand up in grunk stands up. And then i think throw a touchdown to over. It is just that's amazing. Shot out the grunk for being able to do that. And i don't ever want to compare myself to gronk or tom brady ever. But that's exactly how goes smackdown with michael cole. And it is a dream like. Hey so michael cole. My play by play guy by michael. I play by play by play. Guy just like rob gronkowski said tom. Brady's by quarterback. And i think it's because a similar reasons now i don't know if we'll ever have the success that they have obviously had they're going to be the all time leading connection touchdowns but it is really nice when you can just go to somebody who is the greatest of all time and just be like. Hey do i need to know anything that and data all right. I'm just going to go out there and have a good time. It is amazing. So i can trust and appreciate the fact that gronk is doing that at the fucking nfl level at the highest level. I don't even know anything covered too. But the one guy a little bit weeks he'd be able to do that. Okay thanks man all right. I'm out of here. And then days you score touchdowns yeah five of them so far whatever does four four four of them to backtrack. Yes i think he had another one though that maybe was supposed to be five. Because i remember screaming myself. Just gronk at five fucking touch joplin or something like that remember. There was people that thought he was trading fourth-round third rounder around pretty high by the way is still very high and he would only go to one place. There wasn't it wasn't as if there are any options whereas highest bidder situation yet it wasn't like other teams even had thought. Would you take wrong because everybody would be like. Yeah yes yeah. We'll actually have a guy watch film for. Is that what this is gonna take whatever. Let's do it. I enjoyed that a lot man. I just enjoyed last night a lot. I enjoy that. Aaron and devante always going to be a fucking tag team. It feels like in. I would assume that whatever team if there is another team. Or if it's the packers if you get aaron rodgers situation figured out i assume davante adams is going to be close be high. Let's get to a break here. And then on the other side we'll have erin andrews joyner. Yeah go yeah. It will be joining us. Fox reporter We've seen her on television for like the last. She was doing thursday football games. I just thought of this thursday football games. When are west. Virginia team was on thursday night ever erin. andrews is like in morgantown like three weeks out of six weeks or whatever she probably had to hate that or what. She's been crushing it. A long time can't wait to chat with her. On the other side about thursday night football panthers gonna beat the hell out of the texans. Yeah that's right. We are a texan show but our guy think popped his hammy out completely. Thank god speed. Tease peace to the hamming into tyrod. Taylor we appreciate the hell out of you. Don't think just because you tore that hamstring. That i won't need five push-ups do maybe need ten. Outy love tyrod but also loved the panthers especially on thursday night with david. Sills davis minot davis mental amos mills david sales wide receiver pays a plan. That kids out of west virginia g. arts manning joining us right now is a man who after the first week of this. Nfl season came on. This show was relaxed. Calm he said hey listen. This ain't a big deal relax. Everybody we're gonna be okay in ladies and gentlemen showed up on monday night football in a big way not only getting the win over the detroit. Lions in front of the beautiful faithful. Cheeseheads at lambeau but also covering eleven and a half my fucking god. All the way back ladies and gentlemen rock going on at least one of you guys on the show. Do think we're gonna cover said that was me absolutely. I thought for sure they score touchdown at the end which they almost did to you guys not covered but i said the little time you will win the game and he did waited way to go. Jay i'm happy. You heard that. Because i thought it was a bit treasonous as well and i thought it was a bit treasonous as well out of this guy. That's all good i love. Aj and text me back this week. It's you know it's a rarity that is a real thing. I have trouble with that too. And he's to go play in the ryder cup right now. He won't even be at work. The next four days just like last week. Where he's at some yuppie of any iran. Today's he's he's definitely changing a lot. You know you see. Aj at one point tried to kind of high is like the homer simpson a Where he got disappears into the bushes. He thought that was going to be aj. Now he's out there. I mean these. Big media guy podcast. Now he's big. Offer anything basically america's guests anybody that pays for the free shit maybe a fifty dollars subway gift kurt. And it'd be there and then show up to your vet america's guest. Aj hawkins man who won in college football national championship. A super bowl champion. And he's about to be a ryder cup champions. Somehow this guy was mangled fingers. You can barely hold a golf club. I'm very thankful for him as i am for you erin. Nah last night. Let's get this thing started going into the night. I think you felt like felt pretty good about everything. Offense was very successful in the first half. Didn't have much time on the field then second if you're really got going. Was there anything different last last night that you didn't feel last week or was it just kind of entire vibe going into monday night you think. Halftime adjustments pat halftime adjust. We talked about that last week last week. Disjointed first apps again like last week we really three possessions. We scored two touchdowns on those coca offensively about what we're doing The biggest drive the coming out first half the second and in devante. The gas gone You to to have our first lead. The season finally changed things that came down and we stopped a month fourth and one and went out scored up to scores. And that's when everything. The game definitely changed from that point. So those those were the throw today was probably the turning point in the game. You know hit bobby later on the job. But but that that play was the was the plasco. What about your throw to to tighten up to seem flu. Touched peyton lost his mind. I was watching. the peyton. cast pat was on there Better obviously seem perfect. His linebackers back was turned. You feel like if a guy's back his head is looking away then doesn't matter how tidy is like he's open. You can put it somewhere. I can if i can say is number as i feel like the guy or guys open just gives you a lot of different places. Well the football over the top Back shoulder over the guys over the guy's shoulder if you want you can follow air on it at the safety of the white on the play so i was really just looking at the release of their lisa bobby And then what the safety did i had about. They went back. Side was really right. I want to go pretty snap They were planning some to show that the second was necessarily getting a ton of whipped at the snap even though they're playing outside leverage on devante for for much of the game and got up a double But at the snap the safety kind of move slightly says left to the men looked to the front sight. Bobby and that safety state outside wide so i knew i had a good chance to put involved On bobby asked can executive routes open to kind of. I mean kind of exactly watching peyton react to that bowl. It was awesome because peyton was a guy timing. Everything had to be exactly where the routes to be practice in. That was like his thing. I k. I'm gonna drop in this bucket watching him. React to that laser. Beam that you put the big bob. Tanya was awesome as you're throwing that ball are you thinking yourself there's like fucking three humans in the history of earth. That can make this throw that i'm about to do. Do you think about that or is that not even in there. Just like everybody's open because i can put it wherever the hell i want. Do you even think about that at all or no no about. I don't think that this is only a few humans. Who could make the store right before the i might be thinking. I've made this throat before which they have made those types of throws before But really it's about the release. Once i see the release feel that Based on his His body moments at easy. And i think he is just a matter of putting a ball in a in a tight spot. But you know that we work onto resigned over the years just comes down to work. I said if the i don't feel like i was throwing the ball often enough on rhythm in week one. And so that's what. I was focusing on last week in practice. And that's row exists three and a gun. You know tight Throw the you know. When it's when i in rhythm and balance those is expected outside the window it immediately after the game your interview on the field talking about the lines defense and what happened in first-half second half and everything like that as we're watching the manning cast peyton and eli all they were talking about itself there in cover to daring aaron to run the ball. They're they're saying that. Aaron is gonna get bored ahrends not going to be able to. Just be patient with this entire thing. That's what the defense is saying and peyton. Eli weren't saying that you were going to give in to the temptation. But he just thought that's what the defense is continuing to show and then you've got one on one with devante you drop it into bucket that bob tiny thing comes immediately after. How hard is that to kind of sit back and just be like our aaron jones is going to be a big time night for you until we can open this thing up or is that just you just have to view it as this. Is this week's challenge in this whole thing. I think it's the way the league is trending the the trends on defense the fads As we've seen over the years have gone usually from you know split safety safety and then split. Save the unit. I got the league's single safety with the san fran and seattle defense Legion of for so many years. And in their coaches obviously brand stop and went to much different places and that became the the The defense around the league. And now it's kind of this rams defense which is Rams saints a lot. More combo coverages too high quarter once quarters ads on the other. And you've got to be with the run so that's just the way it goes. We saw it back in two thousand eleven really really rolling very few teams to play in single safety but when they when they do you gotta make them pay and you have to have also stopped for the two is the to defensive as well but on that third down they were the one i kinda laid the one on one. I put into this fight fighting integrate yet. What about their head. Coach dan campbell. You have any good interactions with him. Either pre game post game and the rest of the staff of those guys have been players for a while you to chat with them unlike you. I like to wear my e pet. It's on my knees so you know at the i. I definitely that. I didn't see my thought. Three of my former teammates who. I love Tim boyle backup for three years left him. He's an awesome guy. He broke his thumb. He's recovering but he's a special special guy. Jamal williams play with us for four years. Tomorrow you know you just can't replace that type of energy. Those years hasn't love for the game. That's great and then gmo toronto. Whilst saw him after the game as well just a guy who brought so much energy and excitement enthusiasm our team and our locker room disagrees human. Just fun to see those three. Yes When jared goff got loose last night couple of timeshare goff got loose out there. One win one rate india basically. How's that interaction go. Did you say wow. Surprisingly faster than i think everybody thought or would you tell them not to pull anything. Or how does that normally go when you're on other sidelines. And when people come to your sideline just the band. Sometimes they're friendly sometimes annette not based on where we had the game by three scores. Jared cow guy. So i gotta. I'm reading my adam dir scanning grocer today. Of course you don't know who had differences but he's lead singer and there were an atom you should actually He would be thinking the the the winning song in the locker room with us in college. So i got to get to know a little bit Anyway jerry went to cal this in the locker room with you mr jones. What a lot of us in the league just randomly naming get either on ours and everything around here did of course dissenter. Your deadline con tape. He busted out a couple of times they ran a read option with him where he pulled it He met a scramble. We had no way of. Isn't the publicity for like thirty ads. That was it's it's fun to see the You know the the slower watch you watch lamar the other night right you. So it's it's unbelievable. The one runny head where he'd literally like went between jukes. Look very standards. I watson baseness. Love anderson look like just making guys miss breast like slower. You know white guys. Every time we have for like five yards you know after like man. Is you know i had a couple of last night. We some holding on the defense. And i was like make sure i get rushing and i had six yards. I think last night. I'm curious So i was a little jealous europe for sure but but abby sem bus. Hey when you catch him with twelve guys on the field what is that oh peyton. We're trying to diagram a little bit you. Do you have a feel when they have too many in they're trying to solve and then just have like a goto and all of a sudden you get to run a play just depends on the substitution patterns. Stopped telling us you signal. Stay on the sideline. it looked like one one of them. Well i think some competitive advantage. So i'm not sure what you're talking about. I on on the game copy. Quick count so You know ten real quick on my hands and then wanted to four forearm. Here they love. Let's get them. And luckily i went to old faithful rental car on on two of those actually pretty cool talking about the sleeve. Payton talked about this. With jared goff at the beginning of the game and it's been fascinating to listen to them talk because i assume it is very similar to how you would watch a game and everything like that he talks about. How when you have that sleeve basically. You're getting relayed number. And then like doffs getting related number. Then he reads it in normally when you know an offense as soon as the place coming in. He said he liked to visualize the play. As it's coming in. And then he reads it to the huddle and then now boom. We're all often running when you're reading an off your arm band. It's just like you're not really getting a chance. Visualize it until you're walking. Up to the line of scrimmage you still have the armband on. Is that just something that you guys change in ad weekly or is that you got the offense is just so big you still have to have some reminders in there and are you comfortable completely in this leflore system. now you're three obviously. I'm definitely more comfortable for sure. But i'll say this the thing. I about watching fake delight in the second half the first the first monday night game was dander. Everything they said was the truth. You know like was exactly how most quarterbacks thank and then watch games you know it was it was really really fascinating so i'm not sure what happened last night. I know you're crazy. Ass was on their answer. He did you know. Were you arrested for the brand and probably talking to apple. Is this and that you know based on the show. But i i will say that you. Don't you have the wristband. It doesn't make a big difference. Because the thing i used to always love was being able to hear the plan. As you call it you are visualizing exactly what you want. And somebody's coming to mind either. Play practice play from film. something you'd be visualized night before during the week about how you wanted that. Play to play out When you're not the respondent is different because the time changes to that quick couple seconds when you do break the home where usually when you break huddle for me you thinking about adjustments to the play stresses in the protection or slight changes in in rows. You might wanna make found the coverages so does change. I think that whole dynamic however we have to do it. It's not his necessity because offense or so long you know in the old system An even in college. If we hadn't been college we had more than seven signals on a play. It would go to the risk With mike there were very few plays that we ever needed that. Just because things were we would cut down on bourbon so must win the same system for so long. We just didn't necessarily need to have one In this system we have to have it because there can be fifteen words to a single play and are you still evolving in this offense. You think felt like still. You still have a lot of room to go or do you think you have a pretty good grasp on it. Even though i take at this point. I grandfather on it for sure. I think the offense itself get them all it has to haul every offense has to evolve But i've got. I've got a grasp of it but i need to respond. Because if if one word gets cut out or if he pushes the button to early before he starts talking or whatever. My eappen If one or two words are off you know. And i say. I need it again. Then we're talking about another five seconds and it just slows you down again to the last game so it's much easier to say you know twenty two or whatever twenty two flip whatever it might be then you the news. Five hundred light words flip you know right llosa laugh protection goes yes. I run run set. Goes it's gymnastics. It takes a little bit learning curve. But now you're dumb dumb jock though. Remember that don't ever forget it time. Do you have air. We've talked ad nauseam about how no matter what you do. There's always gonna be detractors. And people talk and shit and i mean it was like that this whole week leading up to the game and then last night even going into halftime your eleven to thirteen or whatever with two touchdowns you look great and people are still picking apart and you know trying to dance on your grave or whatever and you alluded to it in your post game. Press or like you know. I'm not necessarily going to respond. But like i see what everyone's been saying like. Are there any at this. Do you know who's in your corner like you ever see stuff and it's like oh shit. I can't believe this guy's got something some sort of issue with me and does it like piss you off. You know like. I saw a lot of people are saying that. Like you know you didn't care and tell the tanya and throw last night like that's when it clicked and it's like okay. We can see he cares game like is it one of those things. That's still just outside noise and you don't give a shit or is it. Like what the falker these guys talking about. i've type it's a combination of both money and it's absolute worship to give platform to people who have no idea what they're talking about my mental state and you know my focus my work habits people that have not been around me The nut in my life. I don't have communication with them or not in the locker room. I mean that's that's just. This is checking ship. you know. it's it's so ridiculous that people give give glad form to do this. And it's the same type of people on the flip side of that. I think in this day and as media the things that gets money. It's all about clicks right and hit send us and one second counts abuse so the the actually opinions in garnering the most attention. The most outlandish so. It's not even overreaction. Monday or tuesday anymore. It's overreaction everytime microphones nerve as every time you have a single shot in the camera can talk camera. Every time you had a panel. It's who can say the most outlandish things now because that's going to give you the most hits that's the media would live and that's fine but at the same time i still. You know. I still have this show at my weekly. I mean most people you know. Don't use their platform to defend themselves. I don't defend myself. And people aren't worth spending time on. But i'm always going to give her a minded listen to the source. You know some of these things and then be reminded. It's often the same people in the same tired rhetoric. I was just surprised after week. One there was such a story out there but to let. But what's crazy is to let one storyline right by a person who has no contact with me zero zero relationship that becomes some sort of like narrative. That's out there that that. Now i somehow don't care about all because because by din attitude in the op season. That's the bullshit ob- stalking by last night. And i think that regardless of what happens this season we do moving forward. We have tough schedule. There's gonna be some ups and downs for sure where team it's finding our identity slowly as as always happens throughout the year but like the trolls are out there like it. But the truth and fact should not be replaced by conjecture he'll bound conjecture and when it is that. I am thankful for this opportunity and for my pressures to be able to say. Let's just think about hussein's big fuck you. I enjoyed that. I enjoyed that. They're well articulated. Obviously you did all the thing. You did a state of the union almost in where we live but it needs to be said percent the helen. I'm sorry aj go. That was awesome. That was great question great question. How is that change though. From when you got in the league till now has it changed in. How does it feel different from how the media is how you guys interact with. The media. is way way they've been age. Because i think all these people who are on these shows now believe they're celebrities and believe that they have this platform to you. Use it to say whatever the hell they want. And that's how they garner the attention that's gotta get from most. It gets to be on multiple networks. That's adding know. Get their name out there and get a blue checkmark and get the ball. Whatever else going on. I mean it's like it's that's the society we're in now when i first got the league into five you got there six social. It wasn't the my space and it's all about. Who is your five top ten expanded. What kind of music in the background wasn't about you. Know your social media following and you lakes you're You know how many views on a page you know. It's it's different. It's it's all about the how many impressions you can have for things that you said. So what's going to you know it's not going to be the you know the relax were fine week. It was a bounce back. That doesn't do anything that doesn't move anybody but you start seeing some outlandish things about you know what i did in the off season and mu wanted to be on jeopardy and not lay all this other. You know ridiculousness that tom fanny till he was out there which i really didn't see so You know it's think it's it's it's destined state of the media that moran. How about tom. By the way tom from my space ran. He's a great photographer. Have you ever run into him in any year adventures. I think he's like a world traveller photographer now. Our friend tom no big fan. He was one of my friends me to man. He never responded i am. I sent him messages. Son of bitch never respond. It was absolutely unbelievable. I love that you're kind of addressing the state of the world can i. Can i talk to you about right. After the national anthem there was a fly of was that the biggest fighter jet you've ever seen in your life was at fifty three and a third wide and then that moment a us devante up made me very comfortable with everything i had been saying about thing. It felt like the team at a different vibe going into that so just a couple of questions in one. There was that the biggest jet you've ever seen to fly over. And what was the vibe going into the game. Felt like you all. We're on the same page like last week. Which is a big fucker here. Because the biggest you ever seen with laver but it was pretty fucking awesome. Yeah did not have that for year that after fans in the energy something that always gets me regardless of how. I'm feeling physically mentally but intros and it was defensive interest last night so i didn't get around there but The juice that you get in the electricity goes through your body when you're introduced it just changes the whole dynamic inside your body and i think we kind of needed that as a team that energy from the crowd last night to get us going. It wasn't that we weren't confident. It was just. I think we needed to just proved ourselves again. And this might sound like a crazy statement. But i do believe this. I think you need to learn how to win every single year again. Nothing carries over a from year to year. There's there might said there's culture. There's environment i think structure that's carried over. The team is different. And i think each team needs to relearn out to win and how to deal with virtually every season and we didn't do analytic well the first week and and yesterday well became a locker room. That wasn't a freakout. I think we all kind of realized. Repossessing scored up to. Let's take lead for the first time. This season is play from aleve. Let's get a couple of stops and we'll be fine and so. I am proud of our guys in respect because i feel like we We just kind of stopped together and then as far as the confidence as they haven't had enough confidence. I told him last night and the mentioned really believe as as gracie west last year and he was spectacular. I think he's a medical earlier this year. I really do. I mean you look at I was watching the clip. Is i guess of the night. Last night he's ready to stick riding around five. Stop it through tacoma. Backer flew over the top and he turned up field and nobody tests and he went twelve year and snap at the cat. It was seventeen. Play and i was just like you know. And then you add on the catch that he had when i threw it super high with metal that he made. And just you know down the sidelines. He just makes it look so easy and you know. He resorted to me last night. He said we're just started and well. I think thai schmidt actually just yeah frost. That just came out over there. Though i heard andrew luck tell t y hilton one time and i think i was probably eavesdropping in this conversation. But the way that they liked playing football with each other like hey. I like playing football with you and they had this incredible connection. Tom brady has that with gronk. Is emily feel devante like you. Just enjoy playing. Not that you don't with everybody else. But i feel like there's a special connection that comes between some of those relationships between quarterback and wide receiver in the end. It's like i like playing football with you like it's a lot of fun doing well. How can you not. I mean the guy makes you look great every single week. So how can you I care so much you know. As opposed to what was said. Last week i do care so much that i care so much about the about the people you know about the person and not just play and when i see Agai growing as a person it ninety nine percent of time translates to a guy grown on the field and mike used to say this all the time When he was in green betting say best players got to be your best people. And when you do that you can create a culture Flare led team and leadership in the right way authentic leadership. And i'm as thankful as i am to throw it to seventeen every single week. I'm just as thankful about the type of guy that he is. And the way that he leads the way he conducts himself type of professionally is just his countenance and into meaner and charisma in that to me is what. It's all about superstar player. Who can do all these other things and and is good person and for that. I'm really thankful for for got pretty good. How important is it for you guys that like each other for teams in locker room. Factually get along and hang out off the field and do all of that. You can't put a stat on it but patent talk all the time okay. The best teams love being around each other and hanging out on and off the field. We say back in twenty ten the team that drinks together wednesday. Get that team. That team got after it for sure. We hung out more than most other other years. Don't you think that year. I one hundred percent agree with that and it was the personalities though is it's you know you you bring together justin in ej lang as young players. You know brian malaga's rookie. The old heads with the tau and driver woodson and the young upcoming guys like greg jeans and jordy nelson and james jaws just the way that we all live together. was really special than the ad wildcards like tom crabtree You know you get those glue. Guys howard green. I think about Bj raji both. I f the the first step where we we do love. Each other was was special again. Just you know. He's not a best team. Talent loss by any stretch of the machinations. But it was a really close knit group. Yeah i had a. I mean the team that drinks together wins together. Sounds a lot better than mine. I said team comes. You get a lot closer together around keg than they do kale. As the as the nutritionist came into the world it was protein shake time. I'm like all right. I think we should just have a keg though. Just one time right down yonder. I think we'll learn a lot about each other back. This is very quickly. We'll learn a lot about each other right over there. It's a new world though aaron. It's a new world. And i can't do that. It's not healthy. Your big yoga. Yeah well i smoked. Thank tops. you don't need sleeves. Kick ass what i want to tell you what air and i said last night. I'll say it again. Tank tops perk for if you got a little bit of a gut but you want to do your arms tank top makes you look good. You know what i mean. Everybody thinks i'm in shape. I'm not. I am sloppy but distinct Makes me feel good. You know just like just like aaron rodgers. Tuesday's do john rogers connor your question sir. Aaron what was the thought on the post game sombrero because it looked electric. And will you be getting a few more devante and some of the other guys on the offense. It's great question Every time we have monday night You know there's espn deport days. John sutcliffe who's worked there for a long time. It's become a friend of mine and he's also to the supplier remain so it's he always brings something silly you know with them and we did a post game and he had this umbrella and he wanted me to either wear it or given to this aaron jones or something and they got the data rockaway out. Because i was wait for me. Because we're so late. I was talking with temple applicant for long time and zemo and jamal by lisa. You know i was like man. I'm on get anywhere then was still. There's that interview and he's trying to give me a speaks in spanish. Which last time i did. It was very very good is very great either but i was trying to keep it to a minimum but any breath brera that he allowed us. The are you doing a rate now. I mean if you go if you go with that hair moustache some brab. Let's go to the super bowl. I mean immediately dude penalty. I don't think so you know. I have a month fish until halloween and this has been a year in the making for for my cost of not gonna get away but it's somebody who is a hero mind. Who as you know long ish here scott staff. That's awesome talking to. I'm before we get to the incredible aaron rodgers book club that has captivated people that i would have never imagined. Those people would be the people that listen to this show. I had no idea we had readers listening. I am honored to be part of that before we get to that. I would like to ask you though you push joe dirt last night. What if he turns around. Okay and trade. Do you remember this. There's a little bit of a scrum. You push old buddy. I thought were potentially going to get like a taunting call out of that thing. What happens if he turns around and squares up on you. Throwing hands with joe dirt immediately in the backfield. They're not a great match for me. So you know. I wouldn't go to down easy for sure. Definitely put up a solid solid fight but for now i think it's fun sometimes in those moments to to give a guy a little bit of a jefferson. They don't expect it's you so let's spin around real quick and then we'll see if any laugh the it's like bringing some olympic humor to attend situation. Oh this guy's push me push it back and then there's a lot of fun moments in the field. Sometimes you kind of give a little bit extra shove on the whiparound row and they look at you like come on man. Come on a little bit since football. That guy did not turn around by the way you pushed him and he just walked off. You probably saw on jumbotron. I hate that guy is what he said. And that's what. I'm cdc once every twenty laughing with aaron rodgers I told him on the field. You know we ran out the possesses the game and he was kinda i or whatever so i just kind of you know just my flow a little bit and he did say something to gave me a nice comment about about my. Obviously he has one of the best. You know maine's in the entire game. Can we say his real name. For god's sake clay with the would be really really jealous. Fossey's the captain of the defense fox. What is the guy's name allies detroit. Lions fan how captain your team player. That's the way he's very good. Play around here comes flying out there. Look like bobby carpenter. Thank did look a little bit. That bobby general bob you know him pretty. Well right yeah. He's a great wedding singer vent and he grabbed that mike fun a lot. I did not hear him sing. But i heard and cut about seventy eight promos that i never thought out of somebody's mouth in public. And he and he was forced out there by a j obviously and he just went right up has zero fear. I absolutely love it. Let's get into the thing that has captivated people that i don't think whatever think that they'd be captivated and maybe they put their reading glasses away for decades. Maybe in you reminding them that reading is a good thing has really gone over. Well where men win. Glory was last week's book. Pat tillman story behind the scenes tails and what john was able to do with. This book is something that people are always going to be proud of. This guy writes go box in. His story is amazing. One what should we look forward to for the next week. Here on the aaron rodgers book club. Mr aaron rodgers before. I'm going to ask you like where are you getting your cliff notes from it. Who is is somebody on the staff. One of the one of the fellows like you you just. You didn't actually mention anything that was written in the book. But i know that first week he didn't read the optimist. I mean that's the whole thing not the whole thing for somebody. jovan some of the gaps. There you know chasing your personal but that makes us say this since you ask the question. I follow paula. did all right. I changed my life completely. I mean i have the book pages still mark. I told you this he ran his fingers et cetera. I mean i've been getting into it. Never had a book first time here. Rogers book club is what's all connor does read. It does give me a little bit of a heads up. He was not able to finish this book yet. I wasn't able to give you a bullshit thing there but we will get there eventually. I think maybe a lot of people are doing that. What's next book in line here. Thank you before. I get into that i do they. One of the cool things about this is giving people are glimpsed at some of my favorite books and also encouraging people read it is Got the attention of those authors. So follow the offer of the author of the optimist like You know not a bunch of tweets out about it which is really awesome. I think and then last week. When i highlight where amendment brewery. Which is you know. Just one of a number of amazing books by crack our He resents me on social media. Which is amazing. I've always been a fan of his work. And so that's like a coup latent. You know benefit of this whole thing and and hopefully people are enjoying it and that i haven't seen books that i love but also have a book stack of about thirty that i want to get to and it keeps getting added. Jared i'm gonna barnes normally go. I want this book and this goes into stack that keeps growing cueing peak. But the look says so. This week's book is an oldie but a goodie he's for a long time was on the The reading lists for. I believe a either later. Elementary junior high. This book still stands up on rioted. Laugh spills. Dan's place said something terribly toxic right in the middle of everything he snuck in and say you couldn't hear him actually. He tried to take down not only. The bullet hole are a scumbag. We will take you out of the air. Rajput blow it out there. Get them out. I comment on the possible books that you're trying to get to. Yeah i just. I want to hear this book. Come on off him. Jesus shot to shot. Good i'll sit here watch. Yeah mike yellen. What's sure anywhere by the way remember. Okay i don't know where it was that anyway. This book was on Reading when i was growing up is still stands up. It's in my opinion super relatable to over through society. Now when i read it ahead of black cover they've Re released it with a new cover. But it's the giver but lo i love this sport. What's good. Oh yeah yeah. It's it's a fantastic book. Like i said i read it again. Probably for the fourth time like a year ago and it's an easy read. It's like a. I think it's two hundred pages but it's really a quickies. Read phenomenal book About kind of a dystopia in Society and people that feel a little different Really one person. I guess in general and and his interaction with the giver who was a character in the vote. So it said it's an easy read. It's a great book again. I usually read non fiction. But i've now highlighted two out of the three ads. You know fiction fiction books but on the giver by lois lowry. Fantastic fantastic book. that's awesome. i can't thank you enough. Sorry trying to take down the whole show in a book club. But i can't wait to get back into the giver. I do believe. I had to act like i read that book before right four. So i'll be able to get refreshed on that. And i actually read it expectation for how long that thing should take me to read. You think it depends if you're if you're doing thirty minutes a i think you should be able to read it in a week perfect. I just saw a movie too. 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Now is a former third-place placer okay on dancing with the stars. Whoa oops tango door ho thing. You know what i mean. He talks former third. Place quite sir on dancing with the stars and nfl. Legend on fox. With joe and troy ladies and gentlemen ea erin andrews too first time caller longtime listener very annoyed. It's taken this long. I'm just happy to be here on. Aaron rodgers erin andrews tuesday. You know what. I mean who this sponsored by now. We're we have sponsor we had a sponsor we lost the sponsor necessarily love our ad read. And i would like to let you know. We're knowing that you haven't come on in a long time. What the hell happened along said. That's all we've been saying all time. Yeah no bullshit. Haven't heard i bringing my cigars. I'd be having nice. St background like aj. All things i watch all these shows were we appreciate that and you should have been on a long time ago because you've been doing great things for the sport of football for so long. We're thankful you're here. Let's talk into things you know. You've been stopping and you west. Virginia whenever i was there like every week almost felt like we have the football game and then watching you just pulled through the football. Everybody loved. I think you're crushing it. He when you say you do nothing you've been around the game longer than all of us. I will tell you pat. There's nothing like that intro. Before your commercial break. I mean this broad. She's been around for years. Sponsored by great moisturizer assault not obviously looked to erin when he comes on to. You see tom brady it. You guys have been here forever. I mean what are we get new newport. We do actually. I mean that is something we would say to them. But it's you look like the first time i saw you in morgantown thursday night football. Ea oh she was. She was going cracker barrel and not working out. Herbstreet would order pancakes for the table. And i just be chowing it like. I just thought you know you can keep that eighteen year old body forever and then it was going to start lifting by gauging hawk. You know well listen. You're crushing it. You always have always liked the fact. You like pancakes everything. Yeah yeah well. I mean that's awesome learning the learning. Has we go. This is becoming a great all right so let's dive into some football though shall we. This is there by the way. I'm doing thursday this week and we have a. We have a good little Matchup on sundays. While we have that rams duck's game to okay. So judy okay. So let's talk about thursday first. Let's do the carolina. Panthers houston texans game. Tyrod taylor's out. He continues to be the most unlucky great quarterback. I think we've ever seen every situations happen. When you talk to these teams. Do they give you a lot more than they give everybody else. Because they know you and it's a national championship or you expect him here. Nothing from all these people what what is it like. It has nothing to do with me. I'm also on these calls with troy and joe who everybody loves half the time. Joe's like tea and off somewhere. He's like hold on guys. Let me finish this. But everybody loves it. And i know they're always so wonderful to us. It's kind of bummer. Because we don't really see. Obviously the texans or the panthers very much We just get him on thursday night. But yeah i'm i mean i'm a huge fan of coach rule and I actually had texted herbie last year. Because i was like. I've been away from college for awhile. What's he like are we into everybody's really good with that. I mean you know your former player. Athlete d one You know what. It's like when trying joe come to town. He just wanted to lay it all out there right. I mean you guys never talked to me on the sideline people on the on the field. I always talk to them. They're always like hey. Can you move your ass over. I'm trying to practice or warm out here. And i'm like in the way my light guys in the way i see my monitor nights i. It's not you it's not you. it's everybody. It's the lighting person the camera. Then there's a. Pa believes yeah. Yeah and i'm like well you get the fuck. I buy makeup girl who's really good-looking. All guys are like here. Just can i move you over to the side and then casually move her over there like ea if your ass over for good no no see. Listen i don't know who's doing that. We need to kick their asses but it is the pa the kid the light person. It's like i need to kick a ball here and we got shot got. I've walked but you're allowed to say that. I guess what tv but Do you think okay. So david. Mills davis davis cells davis mills. David still say i tyler heineke this week and i felt so fricking bad so i'm not messing this kids up name up this week i felt. And here's the thing. This is the worst. We love social media. Tease impedes to social media You know. I thought i came off the game. I'm like yeah added. Get on very much but you know whatever. It is what it is But my one hit. I had were joe. Judge was like. I'm not interested in talking to try to figure this out here in the second half a i said tyler heineke and i was like yeah. I had a good game. Great whipped twitter and i was like i was ruined chest. Pain felt terrible. I wanna give the kid a public apology in peace to taylor. Heineke not tyler. We'll tell heineke you know he's maybe the next fits magic can like might be so. I think you're going to potentially have a long time to build. Relationship apologized social media. You hate social media. It sounded like that's what it sounded like. You hate it. I don't watch it after doing a game. Because i don't need to hear about if i knows looking like a bird. I don't need to hear by choice. Sami like nails on a chalkboard. Sometimes as you guys know you can have a lot of fun with it other times. You can have a few drinks in the wake up the next morning. Like oh god. Did i write anything and you didn't and you're so glad but yeah it's it's good bad right. There's times that it's fabulous and you can go after the guy with the cat avatar. That's talking about how lame you are like. Well how's your mom doing. Go upstairs and ask her own. That was a full lat time. Yeah chat abby guy. Take a hike dude. Why don't you just mute. These people the same people every week for you has to be mute them. Get them out of your life forever. It's fine it's it's a good time but after game when you screw up a quarterback's name and you're like oh damn okay. He's up biggest fear for you. What is biggest fear whenever you're on air out there chopping and fm have. Have you ever know. Oh my god now will go. Hey social me go to social media after you drop a fuck on. They will love you. I mean that'll be those that can add. You'll be a as one of us. Oh just i mean. I have blanked out before you're just like what have i what was talking about Or just saying something really which. I've probably done forever dumb in front of an athlete so i think those are i mean no pressure i only get fifteen seconds. If anybody else screws up they get a good three four hours to clear it up. I got fifteen seconds. And i'm like i've been working all week for that by the way that's like putting schenk when i got to sit on that for two hours iraq and we will get another chance that this thing or is my life over. Oh but we won the game. So everybody's supposed to be happy. I mean i'm happy but shanked one three hours ago it was never able to fix it. It's the top thing. It's a tough balance. You've got to be mentally tough out. There is there anything that you've i'm there on the sidelines to talk to you right when you come back job saying anything bad on twitter i promise you get your guy the fuck. I figure out why that just happened. The have you ever said anything or not supposed to say like because i did sideline reporting for the boca bowl and The first xfl impossible. I've no idea how you guys do it honestly. I have no clue how you do it. That was very difficult. That was one thing that. I don't think i'll ever be able to do i. I was hearing stuff like a couple of friends are in the coaching staffs that boca kabbalah in xfl. I was hearing stuff and they were literally. Pat look this like this is about to happen. And i'll just go right to the mike. Hey listen to this guy go. There's like a code right. There's things you can't save you ever let something out that you're not supposed to say. Has anybody ever got mad at you for that. No i mean again. Thanks so much for jinxing it. Hey told things all the time. Which i'm so grateful for that. Athletes are so good too ice in like give us things to look for. You don't wanna burn anyone So no i haven't done that. I think the big transition with football versus though is west. Virginia games was. I was allowed to repeat everything. I heard on the sidelines in college. I mean some of my best. Titles i ever got to hear john. Calipari tom izzo. That's obviously what. I worked basketball. I know you know that but Horse out houses so amazing he would look at me like he would see me standing because you could be right in it. And he was looking at me and go. Ea come listen to this. This is going to be good. So i'm like okay. It'd be awesome but nfl is know is different. You have to kind of paraphrase. What they're saying. But no. I mean i think burning guys in the information they tell us. It's just not worth it. That's why you have the glazers in the shop ds and all that kind of stuff out there doing the dirty work. I am not interested at all. Hashtag jane jay. Jay glazer always knows giant. Listen and that's what troy says all the time unless jay glazer's reporting it. I've not believing it. I think it was like week. Two of season after harbaugh. He was going to get fired or leave next year. From forty niners and jay glazer was reporting it. To and i remember. We were all meeting in the lobby. Go to the game. Troy said god. He's already your reporting this happening. So yeah glazed. Glazes unbelievable with all his Text messages and info he got. I don't remember radiating. That's also because all he does is just iron under breakable. Jim i forget. I don't know if we've we've said this publicly. I think draft a. We had to sit on the aaron rodgers shit for like hours because jay new jay literally hall of me during a commercial break of my show on draft day and he was like. What's up with your guy who's my god. He was like aaron. I was like wow. I don't know he's like some big coming. I'm hearing something big's going on right now. And i'm like j what are you talking about. I'm live right now. He's like something's coming and then it just hangs up on me. And i'm like what does that even mean like. What does that even mean. And then four hours later it was like there's all hell has broken loose like whenever you guys cover games so this i wasn't gonna ask you about this but it kind of led to this because i asked peyton about this last night. My first question payton was literally like. Could you imagine having no say in anything like aaron did for so long like you would not have. That would not have happened with him and he said yeah cow when you guys go. Is it a hard balance of like not pissing off like the gm's narrative and also the players narrative the organization and things like that has ever become like something that's tough to do and the way i mean joe and troy are so good in your electric every single time. Getting there you guys talk about. Is that something that has chat about or no no. I don't think so at all. I mean within a it's a fair question and i i look at week wine right. We had this interview with aaron and and i didn't get the exclusive. Let's be honest. i wanted to tweet about. I think andrew maher shot. And i can't make that guy happy. He's just pissed at me. You know all the time but he. He like called. I guess. Joe said on saturday. Night for yankees max that i had. The you know exclusive sit down with aaron rodgers and marshawn tweeted. Well you know. She didn't because pat mcafee. Has it ever to we got it. We didn't hear that we hear that over here. We only tweet. And i get it andrew. I know i can't do anything. That's going to be ozzy sidelines. Not it's not a you know sensitive point for me new mute. What are we doing muting given. You can't even sit down with the guy we get it. He has tuesdays with you. But just thinking about that point. I mean i'm i'm sure that the question that packers management i you know i i was asking you about packard's management and then you know asking your follow up questions. I'm sure they weren't happy about it but it's also like we're not there for them. We're not we're just there to deliver. I think the news and the facts to the viewers at home. So we don't really go in with any sort of like fears about that. There is like listen if there is a draw. i don't know maybe with a coaching. You don't want to on anything where it would make things uncomfortable in terms of like dealing with them in the next couple of weeks if you kind of know the inside information we're going to be like yeah touch on it but not something where you're drilling at home and you're making a point at something. I think we're pretty fair about that. On our crew. And i think you got a good job of displaying the game as a celebration like positive as opposed to picking out all the negatives because i assume if you word is talk about any of that negative stuff that would do numbers on the internet. It'd be huge but instead of resisting resisting. The urge of those clicks in keeping it like a celebration i think is something that your crew does very well if it means anything at all and we didn't see any of that and i want to let you know we're excited to watch you chit chat with him by the way so i just just know that we live in our own world over here we just gotta blinders on. It's only got we just gonna stay straight ahead. Your interview was fantastic. We appreciate tried to take you out of your book. Word tank top. No i told him before you know. I just how i i do. I watch your show all the time. I love it. I think you get the best to people. I was telling peter schrager. I know a fan of yours That i it was coming on the show. And i was kinda nervous and he was like why and i said pats like the andy cohen of sports. Like he gets you to say. I'm not drunk while i'm doing this. I was drinking on any. Andy show when i did but i was like he just gets you to say things that everybody wants to hear. And you know. Andy goes right in there with some of these questions but No i know housewives guard. That's a real housewives guy. He's real rich. Rich guy kind. That whole thing right in pay respects respect to that guy by the way is kind of ours the sports world. Where you you make everybody feel comfortable. You get you know you ask the question that people are afraid to and you get to the gossip of it all and i told her and i said i've watched the show so many times especially when i prefer interviews with him and i'm jealous i feel like you are able to say whatever the heck you want i would love to be uncensored like this. Can you imagine joe troy aaron and tom rinaldi on the sidelines uncensored the nfl and everyone would still make us cry. It would be unbelievable that would be. That'd be amazing. We've been asking for that type of coverage for the nfl for a long time. We're trying to push for you guys to do what we're trying to push for you guys to do it but i think the reason. Why is anybody that talks me. Knows that they're talking to somebody dumber than them right. And i know that's real like anything that i'm about to say to this idiot. He has done something worse and dahmer so they just kind of let it eat so your intelligence and success is to your detriment case but this is something. I don't know how long it'll last. Go ahead schmidt air. We've seen we've all seen like the super viral clips whether it's like sabin or popovich or whoever that kind of dunk on like a reporter. You've had so. Many interactions with coaches and players. Are there any guys who like after the fact you've been like wow fuck this asshole showing me up or whatever or is it something where you've been this long enough time like you understand like okay. I just have to have thick skin like this kind of stuff's going to happen. I know i have to have big skin. But i'm also i mean you can't tell it all i'm sensitive is for me as i just want them to respect me and know that i work my ass off and i'm studying and i'm not trying to ask them questions. Look i. panic is every time. I have to grab bill belichick at halftime. And you know there's a couple of times they've just been like oh crap crowd but i you know it's funny. I was talking to my husband about it and he had a really really hard tough coach. One of the toughest coaches in the nhl. Daryl sadder. i don't know if you know anything about the sutter brothers canadian but pat. You would love these guys but he insists on how i you know when it comes to football fields like they are so tough there so hard but off the field super great but yeah there's been a couple of guys me listen when i first interviewed nick saban. I used to be at arm's length from him because i was so intimidated. I was so scared. I didn't want to piss off. Now i'm gonna name my purse form saving. And this is coming. From a florida gator. Here's one of my contacts Because i guys just gone. And i am into him so i also dig it though. Like how tough they are. Think that's awesome. Like i want to crack you now. You but they also appreciate like if you come with any type of confines. Yeah you're scared at all. It's like with a lot of those people. It's almost like a pit bull right. If pit bull. The answers that you're scared at all it's completely different game between you and the dog. If you're not scared at all it's different. I think a lot of those in my experience now being the owner a much lower than you on. But whenever i come talk to that those e. p. a. is standing in front of my fucking third long okay and i'm being told that i'm allowed to speak to it but i think if you just like if you just come in with confidence appreciate that and i think that's why you crush it every time because although it sounds like you're you do say you have panic sexual whatever it and it never comes across on television is that way and the panic. Attacks are what height me out. There's they are. What like as psycho is. That sounds like. I am full-blown shaking. Before i hit and i've done this as you guys. So kindly pointed out for one hundred years. But i you know i like i got to get this first one. Is this a good story and this is about. Your boy has not been a hundred years by the way erin andrews brand new. I tom rising star in this entire thing. I'm sorry go ahead though you know so it was probably my second or third year. I was with george troy and stop me. If you've heard this before but aaron had a calf injury aaron rodgers and we got it you got to count and you need to stretch those things you know so i. My first hit was about the calf. It's cold blah blah. Were during a rehearsal. And i was just ing up this whole thing about the damn cap that we've all heard about before and i say you know we joke about it but i'm screwing up in the rehearsal and finally my producer goes. Will you get your phone. And i said why and he goes. Joe's trying to call you. I was like why can't you just talk to me. So i picked up the phone. And i was like hello and you you stop and i said what and he goes. You can stop and i said he goes. It's a calf injury. You talk this. you're not performing drain surgery. Will you just get it out like you're so right. Yeah you know. But i also think that's what makes me love this thing so much. They say you keep yourself up so much you just want to do a good job and stay out of the punters way. Well no no way to do. Cover the game. We need the money from the coverage much more than we need to point that one particular rep. But i think that thing about the butterflies is good right. I mean just yeah. I think that's a good thing. I think still did that. I'm not somebody that gets nervous much. I'm rather comfortable in almost every situation but that energy that excitement. That kinda happens right before. Something big happens in here. Come into this show. If i know like today for instance we have fucking erin andrews on today was one of those days so i hope you have that forever and we've all been very lucky to watch your work. We appreciate you so much. I love you. I appreciate it can we. Can we do this more often. A you tell us. Hey that is on. That is your shows not that many years because honestly we didn't know you existed into what rights but since you came into the thing i mean we've been trying our best. I mean that's what we've been trying to do but yeah we would love that. We'd love that if that was plus we could get into some real geico gossip you know in the next couple of weeks. All the t- that's what the kids say ya become actually playing a game ladies and gentlemen and okay now. That's a german thing. I don't know if any stole that. I do and say the big you ever miss one man. Everybody just ski on the head ads tough. Yeah shawki yeah. I miss my smoothies today and had to change my shirt at the last minute. Had greens all over. You know get your brain dead see. That's something i need to do. And i learned something today that you you're awesome ladies and gentlemen. Nfl legend air. Saying sorry to interrupt. But don't get stuck doing the same workouts. Okay making progress towards the future. You means overcoming new. There's no perfect body that everyone can achieve but what we can do is continually become a better version of ourselves fit bod creates a fitness program that continually adapts with new exercises and dynamic intensity. 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Another combine will be held later in october in mexico. This is a massive part of the nfl's worldwide growth is getting players from all the every country. Basically we got elaine tight end. Obviously this picture bjorn van of germany. Who left his high school and came over here and live with somebody. I mean it has become a process in a lot of people's dreams around the world the nfl's trying to make it easier because the nfl knows the more international players. You have the more fans internationally. And that is what we are trying to accomplish. Australia's becoming an absolute breeding ground for punters can everywhere kind of start becoming that. That's what the nfl hopes. Get some players in there and get some dreams come true. Gets them hopes. Get some opportunities. And he's getting a little smaller camps. Maybe in these countries and then the game gross and all of a sudden soccer's the number two sport in all those other sports other countries. Damn what's probably going to happen. Their olympic sport for us at dominant bingo then. We also have football in the olympic. We're going over to barth alone saying hey it's messy here matthiesen here. Barcelona now loses gist. That is what the nfl will do that. Right up ari came will be kicking. Footballs at taunton hospital. It said something he's thinking about doing right in the future have we. Not every soccer player can just jump over kicking. Footballs though i would like to be known. And i am tired of the disrespect from the soccer community. This guy come kick balls blah blah blah. He can't yeah and if he could he would when he retires. Because they're paying good. You don't have to do much now. There are there are some soccer players that transition very easily into the game. Okay i was very i. My swing was a very natural fit for the football. But i've seen plenty of great soccer players with big lakes not be able to kick it football at all in. Maybe they'll be able to work at it and get there if you have speed. I guess you have a chance. But that's two different swings now talking about round round ball instead of law about a sweet spot. That's about that big for sweet spot. That's about that big talking about two different games here two different two different styles of life to pressures on bjorn. As well. he'd better start fucking coaching his ass off. Because this guy's got a chance down if they don't make it it's on him. Yeah absolutely and he's look himself in the mirror every morning trains go. I'm for me nine for no put the paddle down. That's right. let them know over there. In germany. we need some more players joining us. Now is an american from ohio. Although a lot of people in ohio will have a lot of questions about this man potentially missing five of his last eight days of work. Wow yeah that's about. Ridiculed had to serve america here this week. I guess we kind of understand how this goes ladies and gentlemen college football national champion super bowl champion and ryder cup participant. Aj on a. hey. I was talking to some people a good job with pain in the yard by the way on us. I don't know if you've talked about it. I thought it was great. You were entertaining for everybody. Thank you so much. I it was not easy. You know the tech thing we experienced and everyday you experience it much more than i do. Obviously because you're the only one that's out of the room and everybody's in the room so it can be a little bit difficult but you had come in there with you have to come in there. I think and then get out and then come in. There was a couple of awkward moments but they just let me play the hits in there. So i had a great time jap rashid. You watch the last night or this morning. No i actually watched it live at the game went the first half like went pretty quick. Some guy that's going to be on here before. 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Oh this this is actually my chuck berry shirt. I have a couple other old musicians. This one's chuck berry zony reason for the top man shirt or just have different shirts on those. I don't always wear it on the show but this one just happened to come up to just happened to just so happen. I mean we haven't talked about chuck berry in some on saint. Aj was pissed. Hey jay was so mad. It wasn't like by designing own how up someone placed hot topic. You shop like a twelve year old. How how do you have a chuck berry shirt ready to go to. Of course of course you do all right. Let's get to it last night. Aaron rodgers back. Can you change your shirt. shit hawks. Guitar actually look like time to looks. Like oh yeah. I don't even know what you're talking about. Just like his music. yeah yeah. He's great if obviously last night. Aaron rodgers came all the way back and he said last week everybody needs relaxing getting tax for being too calm to relax too comfortable on our interview. I actually told him like people are gonna be mad that you're not what sweating and yelling right now after that loss to the saints thirty three opening week especially with the offseason was basically just said. Hey we got sixteen more games. Everybody needs to chill out. We've got a couple of these all right and we always bounce back. They did in a large way defense. Got some big stop so there was some key mistakes as well and i don't know what the lines team is in the end but it felt like aaron in that offense was rolling. Aj mean that throat. Tanya that you peyton peyton almost thought of as chair that was like especially when you watch the replay it. It's great coverage by the backer. But it's true if your heads turned quarterback that is as good as aaron's like he's opened he's not looking at me or the ball. I can sneak this thing right over shoulder. But man yeah. He looked like he was just out in from the jump. I wasn't sure if their defense would hold up for four quarters. But i think they played much better than the secondhand. That's matt leflore. Got the boys fired up. He told matt floor told. Joe berry allegedly said get pressure on golf drop back in coverage in joe berry's said that fires me up in the second half defense a lot better. That's fate this some beat reporter tweeted it after the game. Yeah yeah so allegedly happened. Who knows if. That's exactly how it went but i like the fact. Joe bears get fired up because floor. Like you're going to have to fuck and do something that fires me. Yeah i'm a so called. Bear game they. Do you really think the floor said. Hey either either. Dial up some pressure drop into coverage oak as opposed to what what we're already doing is one of those. I wonder if we'll florida's looked at them and goes are we even trying to even. I wonder if that's florida. You know the floor. Some facetime on him last night with the intentional grounding and the celebration and the crowds ramping up to watch video abandoned watch nice short was i mean no. I mean nothing. There's no inside joke. I'm just saying he wears out watching sweet yellow band. I i don't see other coaches do doesn't have to be a nike. I'm wondering if it has to be licensed or something. He has great. Swag i think is what you guys are diving weight. Everything i say doesn't have fourteen mentioned. It's watching the other coaches. Don't wear your wearing chuck berry t-shirt. It's hard are taking serious but it was. It was great joke for me. Yeah but we don't know if that's real or not what you just said. Nah told you it was does what israel come on football. Let's go. that's not forget. Describe out online last night to handwrite on and four. I know you right man with the cover. I know you were worried about it for a little bit. I don't know i was. I didn't mind making because mike. Okay cool they they covered. I want packers due to do well. I am very biased in this situation so i was okay. Losing that one. That's smart people have been telling foxy to do that for a long time. Just but on the other team against the lions and then if the lions win wow celebration and if the other team wins i i'm making money off this class. It fan betting in you know. Some people say that it's hypocritical because kind of putting into university. You want the other team to win. So are you actually a fan. But really i feel like you're just as smart degenerate entire thing you you ended the weekend ten and four. I think you should be pretty proud going into week. Two especially going into ryder cup now. Have we learned anything else. Is this going to be on. Tv are we going to be able to watch you. Play golf against the euro's as you call them just european human beings over there. Now i don't i don't think any of it is going to be on any kind of tv or streaming or whatever. It's it's it's just gonna be there for the people there. I guess and then they are. They did say. I think they're going to have people. They'll give me like any videos or photography. They take me. So i can use that chelsea posts all all the time. Yeah you're big poster big social media guy especially with your new influence or t shirt of chuck berry Packers is going to be something. We're just gonna see going forward. You think yeah. I believe so this hope it niners next right. Yeah tough game on sunday night. Good sunday night. Football is it last. Sunday played them that. Nc championship game where they one hundred and eighty three yards. Wishing colgate on thursday night the niners had like nine guys go with cove. And the packers routed ingraham bay or in san francisco san fran so much you think. What's that all about. I don't know the two previous times because the niners were the number one seed but it's fascinating because we always had to go up to the fucking new england there with peyton whenever at towards the end we always have to go up to new. England had to go up to new england every single year. I wonder if it's because the niners and the packers so high the schedule makers are like. Let's do this thing. It's santa clara in. The niners are fully healthy right now and a lot of injuries decimated top three running backs. I think most of out for the year with that knee injury. Their next two guys sermon got concussion. Mitchell has a knee injury. I believe they're secondary's banged up. Secondary's banged up. They signed this dude off the bengals. Practice squad does look out okay so this is a good test for the green bay packers team. I think this is and i don't think they're going to know what they're going to be. And so like week. Seven week eight. Maybe you know what i mean. I don't think any team really has any idea right now. But these are good things for you to rely on the turn back and look at later in the season them being able to bounce back from thirty eight three to doing what they did on monday night football. They'll be able to talk about that later. If they have another unfortunate loss this happens. Let's keep it going. That's why that steady mindset of your quarterback is paramount. Although everybody seemed to hate it just last week. I can't wait to see what he's like today jay. I think he'll be a just as he he always today win or lose but you know that mindset if you do freak out and panic and get on the roller coaster. That isn't nfl season. that's contagious. Then everybody around you start spending like oh wait. Some young guy are my my position. Coaches freaking out saying head. Coach is going to kill him. So then it just has a trickle down effect to everybody and it's truly long year man. You can't do that. Yeah it's interesting because there's two different ways to look at it. There's some teams that celebrate obviously heavy and then if you celebrate heavy then what does that mean. You have to do when he lose right. That means you have two equally. Take it as art because if the win in a regular season week two or week. Three gives you enough. Empowers you enough to celebrate like in a massive way. Then it all also carries enough weight to devastate you then right potentially and i you know as a young guy. We overreact now on monday. When i was younger i used to live and die with literally every punt that i had it was like because i didn't know if i was going to continue to be on the team or not so literally every pun i lived and with it and then once you start a watch what other like jim caldwell and peyton manning dallas clark gary bracket jeff saturday robert mathis freeing all these people once you see them kind of set the tone like a relaxed like you're gonna have another one and if it's good great and if it stinks get it next time it's like that type of mentality was kind of through the entire building and it's just like that type of culture i think is the winning culture but every is trying to get there and can you get there without excitement without that whole thing. I'm not a hundred percent. Sure you know what i mean. Yeah you i mean. There's you can definitely like you should celebrate. Everyone always talk about how hard is to win. A game the nfl. If you're in a winning team and you you beat a team that you were favored by fourteen or some afterwards. Okay your coached i. It's one game in the nfl. You know that guys don't. We don't take any of these for granted but they do because then the next second aren't flush just one we're onto the next one big one next week and and okay. We celebrated for about twelve seconds. I love the classic. We have twenty four hours. Celebrate this one. And i want to hear about it happening in twenty four hours twenty four hours by the way. That's twenty four hours until you fall asleep tonight and then the next morning we don't wanna fuck in here about it by the way like you come into the facility on monday and for us. Tuesday's was their off day monday. Was i come in. There's some film maybe some treatment and stuff like that. There was some reminiscent stories from the game. And you learn some stuff and it's a cool day but as soon as it becomes like meeting time or anything it's like all right that fucking stop not none of that matters this what we gotta do. Did you hear what bruce arians set at halftime going into halftime this past weekend there were up. What twenty one fourteen i think over atlanta going into halftime in bruce arians was caught by the bucks radio network going into half. They're up seven against a divisional opponent. And if looks good. This is what bruce arians said going into halftime of that game a coach. I know they got the three there at the end of the half. What are you happy as especially on offense not a damn thing. Happy about this damn thing. Turn the ball over thirty five point game by half right now. We're not happy about shit. Defensively you're going to build on in the second half just to make that penalties saying to make penalties. That's mondays that's gone days for almost every coach that wins. He was doing that at halftime. I would've loved to hear what he said. Halftime at probably sounded a lot like we happy about shit he said on radio network metrics old guys smiling like walking in and they were smiling freak out. Oh fucking personal jeff. What's going a stuff is. That's what coaches are great at by the way and that's why i think bill belichick has been so successful. We saw it on a sabin. Obviously he was able to do it with his team whenever they're going in the afc this this this this and this the ability to make sure that the team doesn't get too high on the high rise or too low in the lows too on the other side of the. Hey we gotta lift them up. Lost still good team. We got unlucky. Like those types of things happen. Managing the mental state of your team is a massively important role to everybody. And i think if you have a quarterback that is just like always like this. I think that helps out to coach immensely floor. It has to because you don't have to sit there and worry about your quarterback like walk into your first staff meeting after a game where you lost in the qb through a a pick that. Were you know loss at first team. Oh house ability to go. You know head case. We were probably. We're going to get him back. Mentally 'til thursday. This game i can happen. So we'll move women. Practice scheduled thurs thursday. What about wednesday on wednesday. We'll just to Conditioning on wednesday. It will strengthen. Yeah he might be on thursday to. I mean that was a bad pick. I talked to him last night and he literally said i wanna run in front of a train. So we're gonna have to wait for that a little bit. We're gonna have to wait for that a little bit. But that's real man. That is a very real thing. How stressful that job is as a quarterback of an nfl team. If you truly think about all that is on your shoulders all the people that what you do affects okay. Yeah don't hopefully you don't let that seep in but if you do it'd be a tough day all the people that eat off your performance basically and that's just not your teammates. That's not just your teammates. Families extended families neighborhoods communities. That's just not the coaches the coaches families extended neighborhoods communities talking about every fan. Basically the lifeline. Like i grew up in pittsburgh. Steelers lost this city was miserable. Like that is just how it goes. And i don't know if kordell stewart knew that. When i was and i don't know if i old tommy gun knew that or i dunno new o'donnell he obviously didn't super bowl foreigners later but that's a real thing so it's a it's a ceo type mentality. You have to have a quarterback. Aaron was getting killed for it last week. I mean absolutely killed. I can't wait to hear what he has to say here. Coming up in thirty nine minutes sock about a couple of things going on around the nfl r. J. c. traitor. Yes president of the nfl pa center for the cleveland browns friend of the shows on the show before now the nfl pa not necessarily show. The show has been not necessarily as friendly to the nfl pa as jc shredder might want but i think jc could even acknowledged the fact that maybe if there are a little bit better than what they did. This show which is very stern in fair were treated as such absolute so. I think he actually appreciates that. He's put out a couple of different statements from the nfl pa about the way. The rules happened in the competition committee because the initial narrative that was coming out seeping out as we were an i not we. I was throwing tantrums about this point of emphasis taunting or whenever it was announced i was loud. About how this should not be a point of emphasis i understand. It's a rule if you wanna remind teams that it's a rule in half teams handle it. That's okay but a point of emphasis means. Hey we're going to focus on this. We're going to crack down on this and we want this to change. It's like why are we trying to take emotion out of something especially in the world that we're in right now in a sport that revolves around motion then the narrative came out somehow. The nfl pa. You were the ones that were looking for. This rule trainer came and said now. That's bullshit and then. Trevor came out even more in explain the entire situation in a tweet and post he basically said. The competition consists of eleven people that the commissioner appoints and then one nfl pa representative in. That was kind of our questioning entire time like our players involved in any of this tackling or any of these rules in this entire thing. He's like yeah. We get one spot and it's eleven to one and everybody else else's basically voted by roger goodell. Yes so yeah. Do we know. All the eleven people go are they. Who is we knew coaches and owners or what yes. This is the original tweet from the nfl pa for those who aren't a fan of new ra. We aren't either rules like this are adopted through the competition committee which includes eleven members ten selected by the commissioner in one. Nfl pa bookcase as the commissioner selects. These people i think tomlin's on their ron rivera ron. We've heard from some steelers players. I don't know if it's on air or not air. But thomas doesn't necessarily love everything that happens. I think this is a legit like you gotta have a six five vote here. And i think there's a lot of potential frustration from within and if the players only have one seat at the table i mean what the table by the way. You don't have snow and it's not the unelected like the committee is elected by the players or by anybody else so i would imagine to say you really feel strongly against a potential rule. But it's already like heavily in favour. It's going to pass like not. Are you gonna sit there and fight it and stay at around for another two days in these meetings or two however they do this like. There's no way why would classic married guy he got to pick your battles for this particular one politics like an uphill battle if you if you truly feel strongly about something like all right my willing to dig my heels in here. Sit here for two days and argue with these guys. I'm down three votes. That need to be swung the opposite direction and appears if they are very very firm in their commitment to the my going to do an entire pitch on why this bullshit why. This won't work. Yes i will let them know that. But i'm not going to stick around and glad-hand everybody and hopefully turn them around because those people aren't going to turn around you know why they were empowered by roger goodell roger goodell says hey i appreciate your brain what you do is right. We need you wanna competition committee. If if roger goodell pat. I want you to shape the league for me like it'd be hard for me to listen somebody else. Do you know what i mean. I think that would be difficult. And when it all seems to be coming from the same perspective we're not all but at least majority vote seems to come from the same perspective you can see all these bullshit rules happen. The point of emphasis is my biggest issue so everybody that is saying like it's bad game when he scumbags rod just play football. You don't have to dance. And i don't want to get into the entire like hey a life could be changed on that play. Not just one life like ten of them could be changing. There should be emotions and we shouldn't be pulling back emotions. The same things you love in the game of football is provided by emotional people. You want him to be passionate but you think they're not passionate then when they show that they're passionate penalty. He can't have it both ways but if feels like when rules like this happen. It's because the nfl wants to change the way something is going so it's like the nfl wants to take away emotions from the game is what this feels like to me. And i don't think that's good for the nfl. They just one hundred ten billion dollar deal so they know a lot better than me. I guess but why would you ever want to do that. Why anybody on the competition company. Before it i just maybe they're just completely out of touch with everything you think. I'm sure there's definitely some of them. That are very out of touch. And i'm sure if you ask them they wouldn't say we're not trying to take emotion out and they're gonna they you know they have a propaganda clip two and a half minutes long of. Hey look at all this emotion. That was not flags. So i don't know what their argument could be. I'm guessing that would be part of it. But they it's all they don't they say we don't need little kids watching football and thinking it's cool to stand over top. Ian rappaport said yeah. We'll why don't why don't you tell your kid. I k- that guy worked his ass off to get to that moment and that was a display of success from all of his hard work. Why don't you tell. And he said well. I guess that's right. It's like yeah. There's i've had to do that do that. Like in eight-year-olds. We'll do that and i'll see him. I do these like celebrations. They see and they'll stand over top of dude like i stop them. Just do crazy stuff. Every once in a while during like scrimmages and stuff usually during practice. And i have to tell the other coaches. Luckily they good job of shutting them down right away but they see it and they do it. It's not the nfl's responsibility it's ours. Coaches the stop. Well this is like the classic. Don't say fuck because my kids will say we'll be a better parent you know. And i'm not a parent so i might be speaking out of pocket there and it's like you should tell your kid. Hey adult just like cigarettes have an age and gambling has an age and everything that is you know come apart of drinking has an age like you can also teach them okay. Some of these words. You can't say until you're an adult has become something that is just got tossed out the window by the way no no. It's not this. Is your job to teach my kid that it's like what happened here. The word fuck is on the internet several thousand times. I don't even know what to tell you the fcc. I guess is still against it or whatever but that's at same situation where it's like other people are teaching my kids stuff and instead of me correcting it and this is once again. Come from somebody that doesn't have a kid and my kids going to be the worst child on her. So i understand that this is probably an impossible task but instead of correcting it and explaining why that's happening and win. The proper time is to do such a thing if you wanna be that type of guy if that's how you wanna play. I think those are the things that should happen in theory. I guess i'm not actually in there but that seems like what should happen in theory to counteract all this bullshit ain't right. Yeah yeah. I mean i guess p parents tried to say oh we thought we sit here and listen or watch this and then all of a sudden they start talking about sex. There's cussing and yeah. I don't know man i. It's a weird thing with certain. Sit there and customer on my kids time and other parents don't always do it but some parents are very comfortable. Doing it and the kids are impressionable. Whatever until ultimately it's up to your parents like they're gonna see everything at school. They're gonna hear everything we can't shelter them from all of it and like all we can do is try to help them make decisions. And that's the internet too by the way you know and i know you can have. Parental controls does all your kids one of their friends. There's always friends like they see yet. Find out everything you might as well. Just tell them. Hey educate them dad. My smokable dope right. Can't nope okay. That's just one that you live long enough. You'll be able to keep as goal. all right. he says the goal. Here's why live long enough to do that. And guess what why we're doing it. You can say fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck when you got to live long enough to get to that point like i think that is an once again. I do not have a child. I have a dog. That's still shits inside okay. So i don't know if this is all theory this is all theoretical stuff. But it's honestly how i feel. There's no right or wrong way though. There's no like black and white way. This is the correct way to be a parent and this is not like no. There's absolutely not like every situation. Pat is very situational when it comes to kids nowadays we got some. What's that is playing not playing. Oh shit pause because this kind of news but jarvis landry has been in the news the past couple of days they said it's going to be week-to-week with an injury or whatever it is now come out that he is going to the. The browns placed wide receiver. Jarvis landry on injured reserve with an mc l. sprain reports in rappaport at rap sheet. So jarvis landry. Who is one of the most durable tough guys. That's cleveland browns have is now injured with an mc l. sprain his knee he's placed on i r which means he will be to return after three weeks so he misses at least three games and they're able to move the roster around whenever they play some on i are. This is a damn shame. Jarvis landry is a dude he was only one plane felt like a couple of weeks ago for baker. he got the ball like four hundred times. It felt like absolute stud. I think he's the emotional leader for the browns. They got a good thing cooking over there. Jarvis will hopefully be able to get healthy here in the next three or four weeks and comeback even better. That's why i like the new rules where he can go an i for three weeks and then we'll see he's not out for the year. I yeah it's terrible that he has to leave but for if you're a browns fan i'd also be relieved little bit hates not in a l. Just mc l. spraying you. Could you rest that. He doesn't probably doesn't isn't getting surgery right now for it. You can come back from there and hopefully you're healthy when the season really matter just a couple years ago you here that guy's gone and then it came through and injured reserve came became d. l. Is that what the deal is in baseball pretty much. Yeah what is the deal. Yeah they can designate guys for like fifteen thirty forty five sixty days like so. It's a scale pretty much. And i'm happy that the nfl's doing this. And i think all the teams are happy with it. I think a lot of people wanted to try it in cova kind of gave the nfl an excuse to do it. Because hey we need more players we need to be able to rotate the rosser especially with the testing and everything like that. So they opt the practice squad last year. They get rid of the irs. I think this is brilliant. I hope comes back. Healthy cannot wait to see him. A bombed about it. By the way absolutely bummed because i love watching jarvis. Landry play football. Yeah love watching playful. There's a stud. There's a guy that will. Oh asha he cares. You can tell he cares about what he's doing bingo. That's great coaching point in a great parenting point that i wish rappaport would've said his kid instead said why would be an error again out there. They're proud and they're happy what they accomplished. And if you ever accomplished a catch like that the nfl on a sunday you do the same thing hill. Then you keep your ass quite and go to work son please. So i would say sumo. Bj's probably coming back now with them being depleted lever. What's that all about. If he's healthy he will. Yeah if he's a hundred percent healthy we'll wind it. Why would you bring a ferrari out of the garage if the fa you're winning you're doing well and the ferrari in You they're good. They're doing in the first. Why would you talk if the ferrari still had a little tuneup. That needed to happen while jim bringing up the race. Let that thing get all the way ready. Get that up all the way in and let that thing. The pony set once a green light comes. That's it'd paul. I saw agent pearson comeback and six months of winning. Mvp was that was insane. I mean he rushed 'rumour yards anybody in the history in the quick time after acl in the history of acl's and acl surgeries. Adrian peterson. now he's still running sprints right now ashleigh playing for nobody. I don't think anybody's ready. They'll still out there nine. Maybe the niners. What did he tell us. He said when he starts losing these races to these younger guys. maybe he'll start retiring. He'll about retirement. When i can't keep up or something like that and he's still just smoke he he has. This verdict not vertical name treadmill. Now it's great like he has like a hill. I think they were running on this off season. They had like faked her on. I think there was like built. Like with would damn. It was sprinting up. This thing it was he was in front of two young he posted he was he was in the lead and there was two younger guys behind and i think the quote was still got it or something. God damn right you still got an a. b. I can't wait to see who signs all day. Just like sherman still out there. Uh-huh who's gonna sign richard sherman. How's that going to go. I mean there's a lot of conversation to be had as the season. Unfolds can't thank you enough for allowing us be a part of your day to day. 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