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"john skipper" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast

The Bill Simmons Podcast

04:43 min | 1 year ago

"john skipper" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast

"Less of that and more and more of administrative trying to settle disputes deal with leagues deal with, you know, rand contracts in budgets. It's inevitable. Irony of successes, you ascend to a level this a lot less fun. But a lot more powerful more financially rewarding and a lot more influential, and you decided to the to bargain, so I didn't tell you to do what? No of it made him bad too. But you know to remarkable agree. I mean, it is one of the things. I remember flight finally the autonomy in the job. They there weren't is where either George or Bob ever said, no you can't do that. There were ten, but it was not you can't renew. Bill Simmons Frank. If I'd figured out a way and gone in. I would have gotten to do it. So you talked about you've talked about the issues you've had personally the last couple of years ESPN. Did you get affected your performance at any point looking back? Now they distance. I don't think so Bill, but you know, it's impossible to say ultimately enough. I'm proud of the job. I did it. It may be an instance, you heard me say earlier in always felt a great sense of responsibility will some actions were irresponsible. So I didn't lead didn't adhere to my own standards there. So I. You know, immediately after incident, I said never affected anything. I don't know. You have an argument with your spouse affects stuff, so. Yeah. But did I do I feel highly confident did a pretty fabulous job for six years. I do any number of things may affect it. But getting enough sleep sometimes affects what you do. But I got I was well treated and the company absolutely got their money's worth. What if you were still there? What would your job be like, I don't know. You know, it's b trying to navigate I don't know the, you know, Steve Jobs. Mercy job said people don't know what they won't give it to them. Yeah. I wasn't. I didn't know wanted to do something else. I didn't I wanted to do that job. Once you change, you find you like other things, and maybe I have a little wisdom, but it never works that way. Right. If I got the job right now that I got January two thousand twelve hundred differently. Of course, would it be better? I have no idea fighting. I your suggestion. I should hire the chief of staff, of course. And I I would do it. Now. Would it be better? I don't know. You nobody that that the thing now about that job is you're dealing with all these rivals in -versities, including does own, but these people that have spun have money in want rights, and everybody's thinking the same way. Hey, guess what's good bet? Live sports. Lookie ESPN in. I'm proud of this because I was one of the participants in this will bunch of other people we identified very early and went out bought a bunch of rights and to this day. I mean, you just know ESPN renewed the American Atlantic conference ret because they continue understand that he has the rights like playing risk, right? Yeah. Risk. He has the armies wins. If you get roll three dice than everybody else has Bill two is you will win. It's a monopoly putting the houses up. Yeah. And some point playing everywhere you go round you you run into g UPN has. Seven more years of the NBA and six more years of the US open. And and by the way, I think about seventeen more years of the ACC and the right elaborates are still more valuable than any other content. Right L content is by for Kate. Now to the only thing that matters, lavish sports news and sports is scheduled a news is not yet. Right. So you can't really schedule news, which you schedule the Rose Bowl. And you know, when the the day that Wimbledon Starks, and it's the most viable laugh content on the planet. Live content is still the only place you can aggregate, a a a simultaneous conquer an audience that's valuable to Mark sauce on social. Yep. Experiencing everything at the same time. It just doesn't really happen game of thrones is probably the last TV show. That's gonna have everybody watching it when it's actually on. You don't need to watch anything else in a linear manner..

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"john skipper" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast

The Bill Simmons Podcast

02:21 min | 1 year ago

"john skipper" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast

"And it was really it was just different. You know, it was that wasn't your management style your management style. Was anytime you ended up meeting you always knew. Fuck was going on in that you always had a way of how even though I spent a half hour with John was a really meaningful half hour. And then at some point that job was crazy. Will remember thinking we have a thousand people in our contract for talent just talent. Yeah. We'll see three people a day L C everybody one day. Right. Yeah. One time of year. And of course, you have a hierarchy of who you can see and at that point. I was mostly in Bristol LA. And so it was like we gotta see the thirty forty fifty people who matter the most. And always hated it run past people in the halls of Bristol had go think that I think. Yet think his name is Bob. And I think he's the that worked for me pretty shooter. He's doing he's like third the third play by play guy. Yes, he see football. Yeah. And I had a natural inclination to want to know everybody. Right. I go to cafeteria try to remember everybody's name. And it is the people only you have to be somewhat impersonal at a very senior level with tens of thousands of people. Just you know, it annot everybody. So we we had dinner I think like a month after I got suspended in LA. And I made the mistake of telling somebody that worked for you like my plan for things I wanted to talk about who then told you all the things I was gonna talk to you about and it was like playing an NFL game where everybody knew the Team New my place. But was like a raider thought that reverse was gonna work, and I don't think that made a great. But then I don't know. Did you feel like I was gonna leave at that point? It's weird rude. Never talked about this. I ultimately come to believe that you are gonna be. Happy within the constraints of ESPN, right? Yeah. And it always gave me sort of a bad vibe when I had to be the bad guy in call because I wanted to let you do the Obama interview when I got to be the man and had to call this. You can't do this. I don't like that role..

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"john skipper" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast

The Bill Simmons Podcast

03:46 min | 1 year ago

"john skipper" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast

"I think the Genesis of it was probably. Substandard with cab being unhappy with some stuff that happened countdown because I had not wanted to go back, and and you and I weren't spending as much time together ver- little, and, you know, all the sudden it gets a little owner in than that weeds to do the podcast said the stuff about Adele. And then you have to suspend me. Yeah. And the look we you let me very angry answering machine message, which I raced good. I remember as you're my friends will be like Nick Nolte, it was like a Christian bale type or so matter me, well, you're the maddest anyone's ever been. I I think you enjoy Bill hill. For the. The beneficiaries of two of the very few temper tantrums our had I have very few temper tantrums. Yeah. But that was one of them mostly because the balloon no longer dealing which other day today. So it was like a always saw the work. You did. Yeah. We weren't dealing day-to-day. So when you would pop back up in my life because it was some kind of problem, and it's like damn I got, you know, a full day already numbness in the next three hours trying to figure out how to deal with this. Which is something that I now identify with. Yeah. You. The man I get it. Again, it the and look we were we'll say in that case. I we're done. Jalen, I had done like a six hour video shoot that day. We'd also done this podcast. And I I haven't actually heard what I said I wish I had heard it because if I listened to it there's one part I just wanna taken out, and it would have been a lot easier. I stand by that Goodell lying about stuff part, the the hard part about like, I don't even know what I was saying with like challenging by bosses will kinda incoherent. Yes, it was basically. And I dare anybody to do anything, which is stealing course you on those. We take stuff out of the pockets all the time. He pushed the envelope. And then it's funny. How you remember these things I was standing on a sidewalk in Raleigh North Carolina to visit some friends of mine and yelling into the phone that you, and you did you said, look we put the damn thing up. We didn't. I didn't have time to listen to it. And. Yeah, in retrospect, I probably shoulda challenged. I don't think I ever said Bala Josh for Mubarak. I I will never that. But and so then so then when I got suspended you didn't you had somebody else tell me. So then I was was probably a coward. Now. I well you who knows as mad about that. And then we didn't talk, and then you called made to talk, and I wouldn't talk to the thirteen year old. Yeah. I live back like God. Why did I handle, but I took it? So personally that I couldn't even talk to you bet. I remember that. I remember that look, Tom. But it was a lot of it, dude. The history that we had. Yes. I felt like I was like, you know, it was like fighting with my dad or something. Yeah. It was sorta like you said, you know, after we did the grantland the grantland deal. It was like this is my guide is like, where's my guy gone? He's disappeared into the corporation. Yeah. And doesn't he think important anymore, and the answer was of course, I felt you were born at that time to deal it. Yeah. And that's a, but I think I don't think I was the only one in that position of your UC because you were such a good boss when you had an easier job that now you're just kind of quickly passing through people's lives..

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"john skipper" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast

The Bill Simmons Podcast

03:50 min | 1 year ago

"john skipper" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast

"Sign up at Simmons dot, Robin, Hood dot com. Back to John skipper. The one thing that's changed at think as we head into this next decade is so many people read now in phones. Yeah. That it is really hard to read. I think it is. That's why the ringer has been it's different for lotteries in the grim. But it's just that site was designed for desktops, you know, in two thousand ten we were like we want people read it on their computer related there wasn't even ipads back. Then no, look I've made a really hard transition for me towards reading the New York Times overwhelming. He'll phone. Yeah. It's crazy right in his crazies, windy, do one of those investigative stories. It's leads into a double truck in the newspaper, which is six thousand eight thousand words, I can't get through it on the phone amid I I may love there's a big story today on produce pharma. Right. And it's a read Oma phone. You're like turning it sideways it hand, it's hard. I did not get to the end of it. If I had the paper, I am pretty sure that probably is is on the front page. I am pretty sure it probably is page A making it up seventy eight and is a spectacular piece of guest biscuit journalism. It is one of the things that should worry everybody. Right. Is that it's hard to do that in a three minute video. There is something about a long form piece that somebody is spent months on read documents, this sort of matters culturally and should matter to the citizens of the country will move on from this. But I don't know how you do that on a phone. I I can't rows right doing it. We ride the bike the stem. We sound like oh guys in the catch a little bit. But I agree with you. It's just like, it's the way things are going. There's no way to stop it. But I'm with you. It's a it's not the same reading experience. But then, you know, I watched it with my kids. The phone is just popping up there on Instagram all these. Different things. They're on their texts on that chat a being itself bus of west in the groovy hotel and going to the concierge. And I think almost as a moment of pride. I'm like you give the Sunday Times. Like, no, we don't. But we we do have digital subscription if you put your room number you gem, like, no, no, I want to find the paper. I remember going to get in the paper walking through the lobby and feeling like you're holding a newspaper. Yeah. Told the newspaper, and I feel like people are staring at me like, well, you're wearing Zoot suit. So we launched grand the next year. George decides. He's leaving. And you get that job January two thousand twelve so. Yeah, we loan. You feeling you're even get that job. But we didn't know for sure. I didn't have any feeling George was going to retire. I felt I was shocking. I felt that I felt it. I was best equipped at the company to be the next president. But I remember saying to George George lounges day on fine. I love this job. Yeah. But we had to when you did your annual review. You actually there was like a box you to fill ins at what what's your next job you won't. And I remember saying if if you leave only president. Yeah, if you don't I'm fine. I'll keep doing this job for the next ten years and have great job in some ways. It's better than the president. I would say always accept financial interesting. Somebody recently asked me what moment did you kinda have the most fun. Yeah. The magazine is right up there. Start the websites right up there in success. You in Elway getting the jobs that are more financially rewarding that have more influence.

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"john skipper" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast

The Bill Simmons Podcast

03:52 min | 1 year ago

"john skipper" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast

"And we decide it's gonna be a mosaic. It's not gonna be history or climb logical series. But if you watch these thirty films, you'll have a pretty good idea the things that mattered it. He's the best thirty stories. They're just thirty stores thirty stores and heart thirty filmmakers, which was a direct, you know, again, like the magazine being different being next relative to Sports Illustrated dates be at that time was a standard. And you gotta figure out an alternative and pretty arrogant to well, you know, when you're when you're killing it, which can be your logic our thing, and they were just like oh that great good luck. With that. We're still the leaders ado river also was. Spectacular financially. We had a contract. Somebody had the idea was gonna Connor that look every filmmaker have we don't want anywhere shea with each and every filmmakers sports where they to tell one of the very first ones we signed. It was Barry Levinson. Yep. Who'd grown up in Baltimore. And had the story of the Baltimore Colts band that never quit playing even though the Colt Earth Day took the colts to to Indianapolis the band stayed behind on opening day. They would show up in the stadium and play in bear lives and did a spectacular film. I cannot remember the name of it best abandoned at that ban the wooden that. But once we got him than we could go get other people. Realized it was like are we bear Levinson peoper, Mike Tolan? But then you'd have the next like we these three guys like really, and then it was like validated. We have one contract if we told everybody had to sign it. Right. It was you're gonna make documentary for five hundred thousand dollars. Ran we own the rights to everything in perpetuity throughout the universal every device ever known to man or the ever invented by man in the future. Man, people thought that was too high back that now is like a bargain sub it. There was look you took some heat fifteen million dollars people, you're going to spend fifteen million dollars, and it was answering probably more that you throw in like a little extra. It was Bartlett here. Interesting thing about thirty for thirty as we never. Ever realized that they would be rewatch -able and that they could just be thrown on the schedule. Yeah. That was not one person at any point in the planning thought somebody would watch the fab five eight times, we see it now that will accompany done one enormous projects or century. Right. Turn of the dry and that content other than being on classic. All the time wasn't really reusable. Ba basically became the company had no experience with the idea that would be evergreen content that you put up only one into forever, but still run them. And they're still fabulous. Still hold up. It's crazy. I do remember the next year kinda Golan will we should keep doing fields. And again, I can't remember we would call it something different which been longtime for with the right brand is ESPN films present. I'd I was trying to throw him about in front of it. I think you did decide while we'll did if are like a few. We did a few that were called the is. Presents. You're right. I think what happened was new people came in charge who weren't in filet with thirty. And they have you know, you want your own thing at that point. But eventually, I think we were putting these documentaries that people are just calling them third thirties, and they weren't even thirties at that point. We realize all right. This is an look you had a little thing where the company was in Bristol and was about Bristol. And this was kind of a group of people who are in New York too. And and the never been sort of a renegade magazine in some ways was renegade project. Right built in New York. That was okay because it was publishing now you're suddenly making television, and you're making television with a bunch of people who were in New York and not up in Bristol..

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"john skipper" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast

The Bill Simmons Podcast

04:08 min | 1 year ago

"john skipper" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast

"Right. John laws, Vince Doria? Yeah. Who's ran news it he is being had been Peter's editor. John walls was a close friend. And John commission to come over. Look. It was followed pretty quickly back hunter Thompson what he's not you launch page to spend some money on it. Ralph Wiley, however, stamp however Sam and pretty quickly sports guy. Yeah. Not not me initially that down. Personally, I think page to launch the two thousand but you didn't eating come get me till spring two thousand one because I wrote this. I it was the second time. I did it was a better piece. But I remember I did a runny dire making fun of the Espy's. Yeah. And somehow while shot remember it very clearly pastor spin while solders, I who is guy and started reading me. And then they asked me to write about a Nomar had blown out his wrist in April two thousand one. So they asked me to write a piece about it. A remember that I wrote that they asked read another on the aspirin at another one. And then eventually I came in and saw wash all two thousand one. Yes. As spring two thousand one and then you should feel pretty good about that company. Those other guys reserve defined would however Sam Ralph Wiley, you were the first I knew voice, right? These guys we went and vault there established ourselves voices and gave us credibility and was mart because people were like hundred times. On the internet where I mean that was like that was a major gimmick at the time. Look, I'm quite proud of the fact that we were the last home for helper Sam Wiley and hundred hundred right there last work, basically was on on. Then we were the the the first national platform view horse cow is national. But you know, what I mean, I'm, but that was a big thing of when I remember you guys hired made officially, and I spent five weeks China figure out I ask for five weeks because I've been working for like four years straight. And I remember a took five weeks. I really try to figure out how national com would work right 'cause nobody really done it. Everything was local everything was local newspaper calms. It was like how do I try to hit everybody? So that was when I like really leaned in the Poucher, again if that bullet, the only really national sports columns were in Sports Illustrated and their words once a week. Yeah. Rally on the on the back page. I That was. was already on the back page. Right. He was but it was eight hundred words once a week, and they were really broad. But it still seemed like it seemed like a lot of the stuff should translate across the country. But it is still. There was nobody to point two which was weird. But will the weird thing was being on the on the same site with all those dudes was my brakes gave his favorite book ever. Hunter is a legend. A it was just roughly the it was, you know, then leading the page over them like they're leading with me over Halberstam like it was hard to reprehends will became. A again, I mean genuine -serily, you know, I do those guys will really important less gave us credibility. Yeah. But you the first guy who in a big way connected with who are audience was right? Just like all new platforms. It was it was young kids. Right. And it was at that point. It was overwhelmingly male just was was ninety. I forget we used to be ninety five percent male. And. Yeah. And very young and connected. I remember when we were figuring out grantland like I don't know nine years later, kind of the same motto about you launched a site was the big names, but they're not even that it's really the younger people that are gonna be the ones that carry the site, the big names gate give you some recognize recognize ability and credibility, but you know, the people like Dave Eggers. Glad well. And like they were like once or twice for Graham. But we put them in the press revise you'd you. Dave Eggers was an original magazine guy. From spin magazine. Yeah. Yeah. Guys, borrow came as a pair..

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"john skipper" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast

The Bill Simmons Podcast

04:41 min | 1 year ago

"john skipper" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast

"I I wanted to be counter cultural. I wanted to be in the music scene. I've grown up. In North Carolina. And my dad was mailman at he takes his post office on Saturday, the sort mail, and I'd take the magazines and the two cared about were Sports Illustrated in Rolling Stone. Right. They were my access to the world of sports. Remember it might to as a gated in the seventies into. Remember, you got Sports Illustrated on Wednesday and read about the USC UCLA game that unit for as earlier. Yeah. Did you didn't see because it was there's only one game on television. So that was access to that in then Rolling Stone was the guide to the music scene in the counterculture. And you know, that those two things sort of formed me in terms of the world of publishing that sorta reading books so you were sales initially, and then you move more, no hours. I was secretary initially. I was an intern. Yeah. So I was hired. I mean after moved up is hired as an intern and then moved up non mood up to. Circulation department ran newsstand sales for a year or two random descriptions. I did the business models working directly. Forgot him Kim Brown ridge. You sorta ran the business for yawn. Yes. So I would come in his can't guy who'd run the models for what the next three years. We're gonna look like and and jahns had difficult. The NFL went to ten at that point. Well, he's is both right yawn is one entity in if if you walk into right moment, yet couldn't be more charming. He puts his arm around eight tells you how great you are. And you walk into wrong moment. He's difficult moody. And and he did, you know only fire me, we share this in common. I was fired for insubordination is that true. Yes. I was that was the publisher of us magazine. Tenures Atra started and yon wanted me to do some things which I resisted and said, I thought I understood better than he did forgetting in my mind that I didn't actually own the magazine he did then he said showed you the door was dismissed freely. I don't think I knew that part. So what happened after Rolling Stone at Rolling Stone? I needed a job so Winward spend for here. So some guys music business. Steve sweat in. David Horowitz had invested in spends a to work who Bob Guccione junior. The raw great to me. I mean, I was on the rebound of dismiss it Rolling Stone in January of nineteen ninety work for spin about three weeks later in had any spin happened is PM happened because spin, you know, I had small small kids and live out in the suburbs. And spin was a bunch of twenty two year olds. And just it was the right thing for me to do. But it did give me a good transition. And then Disney hired me getting Michael Lynton to come at work in California Glynn the future Sony guy. Yeah. So Michael hired me at Disney to start booking magazine companies and out my ridge, but I was to manage Disney ventures a little pocket size magazine for kids. They remember the hope Alina in Italy. Yeah. And I was nineteen the end of ninety in ninety one. So I was in publishing their to ninety seven in ninety seven ninety six I think Disney bought ABC kept cities which owned ESPN againing. Steve bornstein. Yeah. Told Mike Lazarus wanna start a magazine. And Michael said, we gotta magazine. Yeah. Named skipper. And he put me together with John Walsh. And we did a prototype with Walter Bernard of with Alan Iverson on the cover of a magazine that was across between Sports Illustrated rolling said that was initial prototype. Yeah. I mean, basically the every two weeks thing and looking. Made a big deal from the beginning. We're looking head things are moving the internet's coming. We don't wanna go backwards. You wanna look forward to look we understood one thing very clearly because it was the SP n which was because of speaking you're getting a magazine on Wednesday. Yes. You describe what happened at the masters or the Super Bowl on Saturday or Sunday was ridiculous because you'd watched it owns or center ad nauseam for three or.

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"john skipper" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast

The Bill Simmons Podcast

03:44 min | 1 year ago

"john skipper" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast

"Pop culture dual threat this week with Ryan russillo. Scott Jason Witten on which I think risotto's really happy about this one. He's usually a tough critic of his own work. But that's on there and Larry Wilmore, David Jiang when shining podcast winging it with Kemp as more and Vince Carter any fin bird J Riddick. We're just all over the map. With a whole bunch of pods all the ringer, sports and pop culture ones channel thirty three. We things check all mount coming up. John skipper, mild Bossidy is being we kind of had an acrimonious ending and and a few years past and we're gonna talk about everything that happened with us because we're actually partnering up again here at least for a couple of months with his own and the Bill Simmons podcast, but he came in on Monday, April fools, ironically, he came in. We had we had had dinner probably five six months before that Naff four months before that and talked a lot about how things went sideways with us because I think it was a relationship. Both was said really cared about one point in time. And you know, the years past you get older, you realize you're going to do that you would have done some things differently. We're talking about all that. It's all coming up. Never quite done a podcast like this one. But it was worth doing. And and I'm glad he came in. And hopefully enjoy it. That's coming up right now, I are friends approaching. We're taping. This on April Fools day. The week kind of kind of fitting that this is an April Fools podcast. I laughed who we said we're gonna do this. Sure. Sure. Who's foolish here? John skipper here. Head of design. How what are the common mispronunciations of of that day's in Bazan dazzling dazzling days in design does not haven't heard zoom? You have a business in Germany. So does own how did that the Stanford? It Stanford his own okay. And the explanation is that the company needed a brand that could be cleared in the entire world, which is not trivial. It's actually harder do than you think. I think the logo looks great the as E N. Yeah. We get a little little grief Gulf for the design. Yeah. Which I think probably in the United States has sort of the most baggage, right? Yeah. Most of the world is just it's an odd thing. And I'm always reminded that most brands aren't good brands until you have a good product. And then nobody cares about the brand. Well, that don't they say like four letter acronyms, and it doesn't even matter what the four letters are. But people remember for letters easiest. So I am budwood. Maybe the greatest four letter acronym of Alta variety. He'd say yes seriously does really mean. Anything any sense? So we've known each other almost twenty years. Yeah. There was a period where we did speak to that. We've looked exactly the same. Look exactly the same. But my hair's probably waiter. And this is both weird and not weird. 'cause I feel like we have such a history together. It's totally normal that we dinner think a few months ago talked about a bunch of stuff, you know. I think it's somebody's in your life or two decades..

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"john skipper" Discussed on The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

01:53 min | 1 year ago

"john skipper" Discussed on The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

"Podcast of the radio show. After this episode will start a regular schedule January eighth. We're going to have Neal Brennan on the co creator of the Chapelle show, and the idea of this is to get away from sports and just have honest conversations with interesting people, and entertainment and music and comedy. So let me tell you why it is that we started with journal hill. And why I think you'll find this interesting. The idea of John skipper, president of ESPN. He wanted ESPN to be broader global more national more diverse. The six was started with Jamal hill and Michael Smith. And then it ran against everything changing in politics with Donald Trump being elected and journal hill had a public fight with Donald Trump and put John skipper and Disney and a bunch of people in a bad position. And the six ended up disappearing, and I want you to know a little more about your mail hill. So you understand who this person is that I've respected for a long time. She's a journalism dork. She is a bit of an accidental activist. We will talk to her about that. But whatever it is that people think of Jamal hill that she's militant she's racist. Or whatever the criticisms, you think should be lobbed at your Mel hill. I'm telling you someone I've known for twenty five years that she is a journalism door who just sort of cares about the sports stories and stumbled into. This activism like she cares about black people. She voices opinions on behalf of black people. But that wasn't a cause that wasn't the intent not all of that happened to her. She wouldn't look in for that. And and certainly not comfortable with it. But we'll cover all that with her. And those are the kind of conversations I wanna have with people like this just so, you know, by the way, as we work this out, and we find our voice on these. And we establish an extended podcast network. I want you to know we're going to be a little looser with the language. The subject matter in the podcast than what you typically hear on the radio show..

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"john skipper" Discussed on The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

01:53 min | 1 year ago

"john skipper" Discussed on The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

"Podcast of the radio show. After this episode will start a regular schedule January eighth. We're going to have Neal Brennan on the co creator of the Chapelle show, and the idea of this is to get away from sports and just have honest conversations with interesting people, and entertainment and music and comedy. So let me tell you why it is that we started with journal hill. And why I think you'll find this interesting. The idea of John skipper, president of ESPN. He wanted ESPN to be broader global more national more diverse. The six was started with Jamal hill and Michael Smith. And then it ran against everything changing in politics with Donald Trump being elected and journal hill had a public fight with Donald Trump and put John skipper and Disney and a bunch of people in a bad position. And the six ended up disappearing, and I want you to know a little more about your mail hill. So you understand who this person is that I've respected for a long time. She's a journalism dork. She is a bit of an accidental activist. We will talk to her about that. But whatever it is that people think of Jamal hill that she's militant she's racist. Or whatever the criticisms, you think should be lobbed at your Mel hill. I'm telling you someone I've known for twenty five years that she is a journalism door who just sort of cares about the sports stories and stumbled into. This activism like she cares about black people. She voices opinions on behalf of black people. But that wasn't a cause that wasn't the intent not all of that happened to her. She wouldn't look in for that. And and certainly not comfortable with it. But we'll cover all that with her. And those are the kind of conversations I wanna have with people like this just so, you know, by the way, as we work this out, and we find our voice on these. And we establish an extended podcast network. I want you to know we're going to be a little looser with the language. The subject matter in the podcast than what you typically hear on the radio show..

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"john skipper" Discussed on Recode Media with Peter Kafka

Recode Media with Peter Kafka

03:21 min | 1 year ago

"john skipper" Discussed on Recode Media with Peter Kafka

"I'm back here. With John skipper was three words. He wants to say Sugar Ray. Leonard was the fourth fighter there. I do have kind of Oscar to the Hoyle my mind because we got that deal done. He was a prince to work with. So it was it was good fun. Okay. All the boxers in the in the deal are duly noted. I you know, I periodically. I'll hear from someone on your team explaining a new deal they have and then I have to do a bunch of Google Inc. Because I don't know anything about boxing, brillo, tiddly, red blooded American sportsman, and it's just not on my radar again. Let's it's like a stunt fight like Conor McGregor. Maybe once a year where something happened. Do you think you are going to convince me to become a boxing fan or you just there's other people you're going to spend time who are persuadable? There's a pool of three to five million people who care about this, very deeply, and who have paid for a pay per view fight in the last three or four years. We gotta find those people guys Laura's. For those people. I think you'll get interested at some point Anthony Joshua Deontay wilder or two fairly spectacular heavyweight, boxers. I we'll spend some time trying to break Josh withdrew in the country, and you likely get more interested. Where will we get you have no idea, you'll get it for professional reasons? So there's a bunch of people who are investing in fighting, right? Uh-huh. Emmanuel over it endeavor Showtime HBO, which really built its initial reputation on boxing announced they're out of the business at least temporarily and again, it's not a resource issue for them. It shouldn't be the owned by AT and T. Now, they could invest as much as they wanted this. What do you make of HBO moving away from fighting? I think they understood that the pay per view proposition did not move the needle enough for them to remain in and compete, which is basically what Peter Nelson said, right? We didn't make this subjectively. We made it based on analytics, and what it does for our business. And I. Think they're scripted high-end content is much more important than concentrated on that. We'd rather spend money on game of game of thrones. Then a fight. Yeah. And I think they're straightforward guys. I think that's the right explanation and our goal here. Clearly stated is going to be to put pay per view fights into his own. So we will we believe create a shortage of those overtime, and we'll become important entity in this sport on backup a little bit. How did you get to this? You were out of work. Did you want to do something in sports without a given for you? Or were you thinking about other stuff you you've multiple talents? Your learned man, you like reading and writing was introduced to Simon and Lynn, lavar, Nick by Michael Lynton, who's an OPEC Lamont. Who had fact hired me at the Walt Disney company, many many years ago Riesling was running Sony Entertainment. Yes. And salmon and Lynn. Win felt that they had something in his zone, which they thought could be explosive and be a big company, and we're looking for a compliment to the team they had and they found me, and I pretty quickly thought it was a great opportunity where you out there saying I want to do more sports stuff or were you thinking, maybe I shouldn't be doing sports stuff because I already ran ESPN and there's nothing bigger than that..

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"john skipper" Discussed on Recode Media with Peter Kafka

Recode Media with Peter Kafka

03:48 min | 1 year ago

"john skipper" Discussed on Recode Media with Peter Kafka

"What would the boss do either way boss would choose Hilton hotels and resorts to get down to business and the little pleasure checkout Hilton hotels and resorts and travel like the boss? This is Recode media. Peter Kafka bet is me I'm part of the vox media podcast network. I'm recording this box media headquarters in New York City. I'm here with John skipper hitch. John. Hey, you never say anything about recording this. Yeah. Yeah. Stream it live in this case. We'll do it on demand. Hello, hello. Last time. I talked to you know, public setting you running. Yes. PIN job until I think December last year, you have a variety of titles. Now. Do you want to let them all are already want to explain the most important on the only tied hold is executive chairman of the zone group. Okay. I thought there was performed and very confusing 'cause there's an acronym. And there's also a holding company, and you're going design you like for me to clear up all this as simply as possible. Yeah. So I'm chairman of the zone group, which is a holding company for variety of sports media entities, which we've recently divided into two groups one called perform content, which is a business to business operation and one which is now called zone media, which is business to consumer and consists entirely of the not entirely consists principally of. The over the top streaming services that we round the world. So you may be seeing or have seen references. I mean called DA's E N, which you're saying, which which I'm told by you and others is pronounced does own pronounced does on. All right. Whatever part of the world, you're in less confusing in some parts than the other and would also stress. So the holding company has a board chairman of the board, but it's an operating role. And I run the company with salmon dinner who is the founder and CEO, and he has taken on the role of CEO the design group, but remains on the board feel like we should have a footnote somewhere, and we can have an org chart people can go look all this. So I just thought we cleared up. Yeah. Perfect. So we make it easy. It's actually not very complicated. But what we wanted to make sure we did was organized the company in such a way that we can have a management group in place of each of these two divisions that we have the resources we need to grow both divisions. And so the. The businesses to some extent could operate autonomously in the market. And the reason this is one of the reasons is confusing to me and in news to a lot of people is that this one this is company that's not based in in this country in two it's relatively new. The overall company itself is not that news founded in two thousand five what's new is dissolved part and the launching the over the top services, and you made an important point. I'd like to emphasize we're brand new the United States we lost since September twenty second the twenty second of September. We've been in business with a number of US entities for many years mostly out of the business the business group, we are quite well known in other parts of the world, we are here to begin to establish a brand identity, but we're quite aware. I'm not a matter of confusion, just lack of awareness. We have not had the zone brand in this country before September twenty second. And we're here now. So I wanna talk about the product and what you're doing there. But. I just want to back up a little bit used to run ESPN. Biggest most powerful player in sports you helped make it that. Now, you are helping to run a much smaller sports streaming service sports service. How is your life different now than it was last November last December?.

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"john skipper" Discussed on Origins with James Andrew Miller

Origins with James Andrew Miller

04:34 min | 2 years ago

"john skipper" Discussed on Origins with James Andrew Miller

"And talent engaging directly with viewers outside of what they're saying on TV. And so I'm curious about your own learning curve. What is it meant to you to preside over this company at a time when you've had such a. Believable, burgeoning world of social media. It's a complication, right? I would suggest George W to deal some things I don't have to. But in terms of complicating factors in this job, other than the overall disruptive landscape which includes the sort of disruptive social, the emergence of big new companies and the emergence of something that people do right, which is a tweet and they they like, and they share has made this more complicated particularly as regards the talent. And we've been through a couple interational right when I started happening, people really didn't understand a very amazingly simple thing, which was that it was public. It was people getting in trouble and they're sort of like really did everybody know, said that it's like, yeah, it's public. But what about where basic question, which is that these people coming to grips with the fact that they are public figures. That's where I was hitting, which was look in the early interational. People played with it and they did things and they almost didn't know it was public. And then they also didn't understand that they were public and we had an all hands meeting. I can't remember when it was two thousand twelve thirteen pretty shortly into my tenures president where we called everybody in and said, look, part of the rules of engagement are this is a public forum. If you tweet something out, it's pretty close to your being on television and giving an interview, and second actually wasn't about tweeting. We actually had somebody who did something inappropriate pictures of himself on a cell phone. And when he was disciplined for that, he said, that's none of your business to me and it's I'm personal, establish the principle that you are ESPN's so into. And as your lawyer, we have a right to ask for or even manned certain kinds of behavior, and it's okay if it's league. Behavior, and it's your right to do. You may do it, but you just may not be working here if you do it. I think that's a pretty established principle of the American workplace, and we did that and that lasted a long time Jim and what we have been slow to adapt to. We had to think through some things is in the current polarize landscape, the attention paid to comments is very, very high acute and the inmates. He right now between various points of view is so high that these things get blown out of proportion. They also become fodder for other people's content, right? So, but if if John skipper could somehow go to a lab somehow and figure out a way to delete Twitter from the universe. I mean, do you see the plus or. No, I wouldn't delete Twitter from the universe. I mean the the fact that people could Munich eight is a good thing in a fun thing. And you know, I don't to be. The guys in the in the church who thought the printing press a bad idea because now people who didn't know what they were doing could actually disseminate information. You know, you're going to have people who abuse things and do dumb things, and we're dealing with sort of a big social issue now, which is how do you deal with mendacity and how do you deal with manipulation? How do you deal with ill intent on these social forums that don't have control very difficult to have controls on what you don't won't to Kerr tail what people can do, but what what a lot of people do is is is highness. I mean you have a variety of burners on your stove at any given time that are erupting with rights fees and upcoming negotiations and discussions with conferences and managing all these employee's and various things. But it seems that this is one of the more challenging aspects of job. Do you think? I do think, and by the way I think I have like the largest industrial stove. Love in the media management business. I doubt like eighty three burners or something, and this is one of the ones where the temperature goes from all to double high immediately, right? It's like gas, not electric gas and flat. A negotiation, it's totally.

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John Skipper, ex-ESPN president, says he resigned over cocaine extortion plot

Glenn Beck

01:28 min | 2 years ago

John Skipper, ex-ESPN president, says he resigned over cocaine extortion plot

"The former president of espn has admitted cocaine use and an extortion attempt where the real reasons he resigned john skipper told the hollywood reporter that he had to resign from his position at the all sports network because his cocaine dealer threatened to expose him skipper said his dealer threatened him and that he knows he put his family and professional life at risk he said he used drugs recreationally and that it never affected his work but skipper did undergo treatment for substance abuse after the incident came to light skipper said he talked with walt disney ceo bob iger back in december and they agreed skipper had put the company in an untenable situation resigned three days after that conversation having led the network since two thousand twelve i'm john stolnis the fda says it will propose a rule to lower the amount of nicotine in cigarettes to minimally or non addictive levels it takes effect it could help avoid millions of tobacco related deaths in the us i'm christopher cruise first of all the people in the world you feel like you were destined to find her and now that you have come to jared the galleria of jewelry defined the diamond destined for her it's called chosen by jared diamond with a one of a kind story only jared can tell from the raw stone to the ring she'll wear forever jared makes her diamonds creation part of your love story we document it's entire journey from procuring it in its roughest purest form to.

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"john skipper" Discussed on Sports Radio 610

Sports Radio 610

02:39 min | 2 years ago

"john skipper" Discussed on Sports Radio 610

"To get it all at geiko dot com quick update texas tech which was down a little bit it was a close game for a long stretch is up by ten with twenty five seconds to go alabama and virginia tech close game early on about ten minutes forty three seconds left in the first half we've got houston trying to pull away from san diego state so three minutes left in that four point contest and of course we will keep you updated all the games as they move forward so i don't know john skipper i have a lot of friends colleagues former college buddies former college roommates who know him and respect him and would use the word love him and john skipper on until recently one of maybe not one of probably the most powerful person in sports media and powerful over what you saw what you consumed in terms of sports media in this country was the former president for longtime the president of espn critical force in its rise in its successes and some of his failures faint frankly and he recently in abruptly stepped aside siding citing substance abuse issues and there was in the media publicly and trust me in the media behind the scenes privately a sense almost of certainty i think there was a sense of certainty that there was more to come in the metoo movement in a world where there are no secrets and a time where everything seemed to get out the question was what is it is it a accusation of some kind something happens something go wrong and now we know an interview with the hollywood reporter john skipper elaborated on what he called his substance abuse issue by saying that he had a cocaine habit that he claims did not get in the way of his job that was recreational and under control and that led him to buy some coke from a dealer he did not know who then attempted to extort him which obviously led him into the decision along with his boss the head of disney bob eiger to step down and it's just a reminder and it is you never know what's really going on and that even the power of people in this world had their demons of their habits or what they whatever it is i have no profound perspective here i said before a lot i try not to be too.

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"john skipper" Discussed on Origins with James Andrew Miller

Origins with James Andrew Miller

02:11 min | 2 years ago

"john skipper" Discussed on Origins with James Andrew Miller

"The gaz in the in the church who thought the printing press was a bad idea because now people who didn't know what they were doing could actually disseminate information you know you're gonna have people who abuse things in do dumb things and we're dealing with sorta led big social issue now which is how do you deal with mendacity and how do you deal with manipulation how you deal with you'll intent on these social forums that don't have control it's very difficult to have controls on which you dole won't to curtail what people can do but will what a lotta people do is is is heinous i mean you have a variety of burners on your stove in any given time that are never obtain with rights fees and upcoming negotiations and discussions with conferences and managing all these employees in various things but it seems that this is one of the more challenging aspects of a job do you think i do think and by the way i i actually i think i have like the largest industrial stove you've in the media management business i would now like 83 burners or something and um this is why the ones where the temperature goes from all five two double high immediately right it's like gas is not electors light it's it's gas in it flat and unlike a negotiation it's totally public on is totally public so all difficult matters to navigate by now you've heard many talk of the amazing shave they get from dollar shave club razors especially when used with your doctor carvers chief butter now you can add even more dse products to your daily routine dollar shave club makes products for your hair you face skin shower everything you need they will have you looking and feeling amazing and it's all their own original stuff the only use the finest premium ingredients and they delivered to you just like they do their razors that means no more annoying trips to the store cruising up and down eyles looking at shelf the punch shelf of what the hell is that in what i do it you can use dollar shave club for just about everything they will have you covered head to toe and with gift memberships and.

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"john skipper" Discussed on Origins with James Andrew Miller

Origins with James Andrew Miller

02:23 min | 2 years ago

"john skipper" Discussed on Origins with James Andrew Miller

"This is jim miller the following recording is from a set of interviews i did in late november in early december of 2017 within espn president john skipper the first was nearly an hour long and took place in his office in manhattan the second was conducted via phone which accounts for the disparity in audio quality chapter two of arjun is on espn and episode one was released on december 18th 2017 just hours before espn announced skipper had resigned episode 1 is titled espn and social media a troubled marriage and contains excerpts from our two sessions what you'll hear now is the full interview regarding social media in january when episodes two three four and five drop you'll hear more from skipper and we will release those full interviews as well here is origins originals john skipper on espn and social media you deal with things that george bodenheimer your predecessor never had to deal with in terms of social media and talent engaging directly with viewers outside of what they're saying on tv and so i'm curious about your own learning curve what is it meant to you to preside over this company at a time when you've had such a on believable burgeoning world of social media it's a complication right i would suggest george provia deal some things i don't have to but in terms of complicating factors in this job other than the overall for a disruptive landscape which includes the sort of disruptive social both the emergence of big new companies and the emergence of something that people do right which is a tweet they they like in they share has made this more complicated particularly as regards the talent and we've been through a couple innovations right when it first started happening people really didn't understand a very amazingly simple thing which was that it was public mango it it it was the people getting in trouble and their sort of like really the did everybody know i said that as a yes public but what about a were basic question which is that these people coming to grips with the fact that they are public figures that's where i was head into his look in the early integration.

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"john skipper" Discussed on Boston Herald Radio

Boston Herald Radio

02:04 min | 2 years ago

"john skipper" Discussed on Boston Herald Radio

"Pats this is bad bad news i will both uh defer to my friend john skipper is john skipper we'll espn young john syria powell whose is leaving he has been its outlook for my guy john skipper skip like home bailis uh for the truth about this play even though i'm a big tom brady fan as you well know even though tom brady was again all time clutch yesterday and again delivered yet another in the peak performance at age forty i thought the pitch dealers got mob jesse james who shares the name with a famous outlaw ironically got robbed i what you're saying i the letter of the law it was not a catch but it is such a add law it is such a bad rule this was not bad look for the national football league correct skipper gary list letters rice that is correct fong batum guy luke jonga who doubted the as pm guess why is he out balloons substance abuse of something wealthier because of what is highly let's with our sexual impropriety who i think substance abuse these resigning i agree with skip pills it's an awful rule but that's the rule he wanted genes hooligan changes sterile it's bad for football you gotta you'll feel the way and sometimes they to look the other way cannot have guys seasons humane the franchise worthy replays ruining all but with lipoic then will be that frame by frame by frame to see who is a catch them on the field those who the touchstones what to help fund is it if it everybody's gonna be csi in forensics on every play in the end zone and that's terrible vote sports ahead i went out i liked the fact that you have mistakes made by reps i liked the human factor in and but last night give that's the way it goes we have replay and you can look framebyframe and it does the leader of the law i think it's a crappy rule until they change it that was terrible the package got the word sale there was a fair wind there are all sorts of penalties throughout the.

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