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REShow: John Schneider and John Schneider. Hour 3 (09-26-18)

The Rich Eisen Show

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REShow: John Schneider and John Schneider. Hour 3 (09-26-18)

"Rich Eisen on demand, your show your schedule, fifteen minutes after ball dot com. Check out the casts at richeisenshow dot com. The high fashion hotline help our family's going to a big game this weekend, and I want to get us on the Jumbotron and some fresh new styles, sprint over to old navy old navy. Yep, old navy's giant. Thank you. Haven't is happening now, get thirty percent of your purchase or forty percent off when you use or open an old navy credit card at old navy or navy dot com. Forty percent off. Wow, that's a huge score better hurry. It ends Sunday Times a huddle up and heads to old navy, high fashion, old navy, valid, nine hundred. Six. Nine thirty excludes clearance read is billion items, gift cards, jewelry today only and today only deals, forty percent off subject to credit approval. Everybody welcome. Our number three of the rich Eisen show. We've got a fun, a fun hour store. Stay tuned for all of it. Just had a great chat and backstage with dancing with the stars, John Schneider, okay, musician and actor. John Schneider, not Seattle Seahawks. General manager, John Schneider. Got it. Okay. Got it. So we can't ask them about Earl Thomas or no, please? No, no, no question. No, Pete Carroll question. Russell wilson. Questions of of of actor musician dancing with the stars, John Schneider, just not hyper specific on Seattle, correct. Okay. Well, I mean, I don't know. We'll come. You know what I mean? We'll talk. We'll talk. It's fair. He has moved ES, moved on dancing with the stars. He didn't even have to dance last night. That's right. Nikki Glaser got the boot. Is that right? Yes, she's I out damn what's Kenny Mayne I out one year. That's part of the was rich Jefford jeffer- office. I, it's and you should do dancing. You should ask you people. I like to do everything lease. Please doing all that. And being I out I out it's it's not an, it's not like, you know, your fantasy league where you get some sort of prize for being last right now you're out, you know, you get the humiliation began. On national television but come on for playing compete like say, you've got the one up on Kenny Mayne. Now, Dan, you. You're not. You look at me. Talking my line. Yes or no, you talking my language now. There's not. I just want you to do to rich and this just in for the radio audience too. When you John Schneider comes out here. We're both wearing mov. Oh, this is this is Jeff garland. Favorite sweater always loves it. When he when he comes on, he loves my sweater. He loves my mom sweater, and then there's mauve and then there's mauve. Drop goes. Leonard drop will never get old and we're and we're and we're playing it a lot. Okay. So you have a news update over there, Chris, lots news. Let's get over. Get over to you soon. 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You know today everybody came back energetic and it felt like home. So excited to be back. I'm here system best. Well, possibly. Can you know my my passion for this team. I love this team goes beyond where I'm out there doing the football for this team or not. You know, like I said, it's my first day back. Let me enjoy that foster. Has any more questions about that. Yeah, there is. No, I and James or Winston. He's a team player right now and an if these past few weeks and months have not hammered home the point that he is out of options in Tampa and potentially other spot, Amy. Yeah, potentially other spots. I'm not saying that he wouldn't be able to get a job in the NFL, but as a starting quarterback quarter of men see on the chest, this is this is the last chance. And normally, as we all know, Ryan Fitzpatrick will try to fit balls into tight windows and may have a full game like the one that we saw in the first half hour or at least middle of the first quarter to beginning of the third quarter that may happen over a full game allowing the opportunity for Janus Winston grab this team back and become the leader of men once again in Tampa. This is this is that this is at he's obgyns. But I think it'll be Fitzpatrick this week, then a buy week, and then we'll see what happens. We'll see, but my hot take plank take of of week. One was at Fitzpatrick plays all sixteen games. I still like that. I like James dropping that he was in at five thirty just to let everyone down early. He's committed. He's committed, okay. Some injury news across the league alshon Jeffery Philadelphia cleared for contact, huge for him. Obviously been women to individual drills for the first three weeks. Doug Peterson didn't say he will play on Sunday, but it looks like he's trending in that direction. So good news that is Carson Wentz in the photo fees, a huge, huge, huge development. Not only is he big and huge take the top off guy, but he goes over the middle, like nobody else on that team does. Did I say the word huge, a huge, huge, bad news for the New York Giants. We mentioned earlier this week, Ingram deal with MC l. spraying looks like he's gonna be out two to four weeks. So ally Manning's down a weapon there, Tom savage considered the favorite to be a veteran quarterback signed out in San Francisco. I stop you right there for the whole. Where's Colin cabinet? Com-. Comics, not gonna. Go to the forty Niners forty Niners or not going to run that back. Just not gonna. They're not been there done that over over. And you know. That's the fat, and he's also suing the league. He suing the league. Interestingly enough though, that even if that does mean nothing wasn't this the week where Mark garra goes told TMZ for us to keep our eyes peeled and dropped a hint that it could be the raiders of the patriots hinted raiders patriots. Yeah, still waiting, but I don't think the fourteen hundred are going to run it back with Colin capital. I don't think so either. So last week against the chargers Rams defensive backs. Keep to end Marcus Peters. Both left the game with injuries. We have an update on a keep to lead Sean McVeigh said, he's going to undergo surgery on Thursday on his ankle. The doctors will examine the extent of the injury. Once they get in there, take a look at it Rams hopeful to we will be back in at least four weeks, but that's an early guests. See how that manifest itself. Tomorrow that takes Phelan coming into town. Maybe delve and cook to tomorrow. Perhaps we'll keep an eye on that. Aaron Rodgers, not practicing today, kind of been the per usual sin. His week, one injury, couple of patriots news. Rex Burkhead on I r with the neck injury and big time rookie linebacker. The one Bentley also goes on. I r Sony Michelle time for you guys. Yes, it is. It's only Michelle time first round pick. Let's see what he can do these making. Let's see what he can lose off. He started to get into the flow last week. We'll see both. Those guys are eligible to return week, eight bills running back with Shawn McCoy coming up this week. They have a big game. He said, he's playing said, quote, I'm playing. I'm playing. I've got a catch up and get out there. I've gotta get going and make some people miss. I have an urgency to get out there and get the run game role. Do wanna put him in the lineup for touch for meal over Carlo side, your fantasy player to you vote Leshan McCoy and their thinking. Is it possible the bills pull off the back to back. NFC north winds over the Vikings and Packers. Who is that feasible? Do you put Green Bay? I think I wanna see high a little bit. I think Baker mayfield's gonna rely on Carlo side a little bit more swing. No, you saw the way that Adrian Peterson ran against. That's Packers last week. That's true too. That's true too. Speaking of Baker Mayfield in the Cleveland Browns Jarvis Landry on Ian Rapoport podcast. This week talked about Baker said, quote, I got a turn up the jugs machine to like eight or nine. Now since Baker throws that ball so hard, he threw one to me in the game. You remember he dropped it. I didn't even know where to put my hands before I can make the decision. The ball was on me. So I just realized it's a little bit different of a ball, a lot more velocity. So I've got to get the jugs going for that and catch as many balls from Baker girls -able may as he turned up to spinal tap eleven, they commit filled. It's got that. Breath are fastball Connolly on eight on the jugs going. Everybody that's a metric never going to be mentioned. Baker height machine going this week in the raiders are winless oh man. You got to pick the Browns this week. No come on, you can and then their home for Baltimore home for Philly. Riven the chargers at Tampa at Pittsburgh home for Kansas City. Lucky is lock of the week. I'm your stick with. I did it in one and one head into that chiefs games oftens over the patriots. By the way, if the Browns win that game, that's not an unlock. Yes, lock, the patriots is not on Laki. They're three, and they lead the division by two games. Stuff, college football news, actually, huge news for Clemson quarterback. Kelly. Bryant says he's transferring from the school Daboh informed in this week that he's going with the freshman. He. He said Kelly, Bryant said, quote, I feel like it's what's best for me and my future. I got to control when I can control and make the most of my opportunity. This is actually a good move for both the kid and the school new rule this year in college football, where if you only play four games, you can transfer still next. So he can transfer and still play his senior year and twenty nineteen. So what a big move for Davos wanting to make just as they're getting set to play Georgia. Came play. You said we play Clemson this week. Yeah, it is. Syracuse that close back on that bandwagon. There. Talking. Pain Syracuse. Okay. So they're not playing. They're not playing Georgia. When you came in and said, we play Clemson this week. You guys are the worst. That that's a big move for dab. Oh, man. 'cause abors don't sleep on the babies by the sleep on them. Knocked them off last year. I remember. I do remember by the way we be Clemson, we meaning Syracuse, okay. We'll be ranked in the top twenty. Laugh. All you want. The collide Trump is so unlucky, if the week college. Okay. Okay. Have that. Okay. All right. Little NBA news just a little bit leftover from Lakers media day Rajon Rondo was on the official Lakers podcast with Suzy Shuster Erin, Lahr soul, and talked about playing with Lonzo ball and what that situation might be like. It's not important. I mean, I'm not. It's not like he's, you know, I'm a second. You played the second plane. We're competing. You know, thirteen years in I'm comfortable moment scanning. I've done a lot of great things about careers. Not that on eve allegation to start in this league. You know, I've been benched in Chicago. I've been, you know, I've played fifty games and set Bob. So I've been to at all is no, there's no comparison far as you know what I've been through versus this year in particular team because it's always the patients championship here. So whether I'll start with our play intricate role in, you know, our success, you and I'm looking forward to bringing whatever I can't steam play with LeBron. Well, will that mean to you? Play the best player all time. It's very humbling and I look forward to learn a lot from him, you know, but my. Job and me, and what I promise phone is is being with so many great players and make their job lot easier. You know, I'll do for you. I put the ball and whole and help you being certain spots where the job is a lotta easy for you. Him being there is just really interesting. It's really element, isn't it? 'cause he looked at the Cavs last year, right? We'll Brown was playing all five positions and he was handling the ball a majority of the time throughout the entire game, especially down the stretch now on. So had a really good rookie year ten, seven, seven. He was injured but still had a nice year Rondo we know what he can do championship point guard playoff Rondo, prime time game Rondo when he comes out, he's also a walking triple double. There's only one basketball. What is team going to do. When his asked if it was important for him to start and he's like, he's a second year player. I'm thirteen year player. We're not doing this to stern anything up it. No, it's legit question and it's not as if Lonzo didn't show up, rocked up, ready to go, but he's still coming back from off season the e surgery. Rajon Rondo. Is there for a reason? Yeah, to make the playoffs and play in it. And then what will Luke will do with a rotation? What will Lonzo look like? They're, you know, he's a very cerebral guy. Rajon, aided. Sound like Mr. chips, right there like a, you know. But he will impart some wisdom and maybe be there and show Lonzo what he didn't see last year, right? Get the two things. How will the Braun fair with a bunch of guys he's never played with in to? Why was Rondo brought in here if Lonzo is the future of the franchise? Yeah, if Magic Johnson said Lonzo can be better than me man than why do you need Rondo fun. It's just fun and Rondo says LeBron the greatest of all time I was at what you over. That was interesting. Sit with you go the Celtics ring. Look, it's play with k. g. Paul Pierce pope, here's yeah, but those guys, those guys aren't gonna hold on a minute. I don't want to sound like a therapist, but let's just sit here for an sit on that one for moment. Just close your eyes and think about Rondo calling LeBron better than Paul Pierce. I would say that to you would say that will barn is better than Michael Jordan. I mean, come on now now I'm just trying to stir things up. All right. Lastly, citing it's exciting here in this town to see that play out. Lastly, is being of Laker grades with statues. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar has joined the writing staff for the Veronica Mars revival on Hulu what that's a real story Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is gonna go into a writer's room out here in Los Angeles, so Ronca Mars. So if we were. Wondering who's Kristen Bell's muse it could Korean possible Kareem. So you're saying. Well, as you know, he he's come here before. He hasn't come here to talk hoops. He's you're about his Croft home. Yeah, series. He's an author. He's an author, he, he writes for time novel graphic time magazine. So. Who's gonna tell it's kareem's data, bring in doughnuts like, have them go get lunch run. I guess he's a fan of Arana Marston I have no idea. You walk it so. So you're in the rights to come ours and in walks Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. That's what you're saying is happening here. What if you're in that writer's room and you don't know who who's come on, there has to be people and writers who don't know really not dual jabbar's. That means they haven't even seen airplane come on may or maybe they think he's the guy from airplane, showing. Pilot planes. That's happening right now. That's the one who wants threaten the boy about you. Tell your dad about dragging Walton and you're up in floor that guy's writing for Veronica Mars. It's on John Schneider is here Roland putts on the Callaway corner. How are you, sir? I missed my. I got three in a row. Yes. Three hundred mulligan it's a mulligan. You. Pelicans breakfast ball for John. Everybody. He's on dancing with the stars as we all know, even join his his work, acting and singing for all these decades. John Schneider, not the football, Josh Neider, the actor John Schneider, the musician, John Schneider, when we come back, okay, this is the thirty second commercial and I'm gonna throw a lot of numbers that you, but please stay with me and just fifteen minutes. You could say, fifteen percent or more on car insurance. This company's been offering great rates and great service for over seventy five years in anytime you need help. You could speak to one of their train specialists. Twenty four, seven. The company is gyco go to Geico dot com today. Sorry for all the numbers and in five, four, three, two, one amount of time this week on the producers guy. 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It ends Sunday Times huddle up and had to old navy, high fashion, old navy, valid, nine hundred sixty nine thirty excludes clearance read is billion items, gift cards, jewelry today, only and today only deals, forty percent offers subject to credit approval. Welcome back to the rich Eisen show. This man is multi-talented to say the least odyssey and greatest hits still greatest still is going to be released on October. Second, enjoyed his work for all those years as Bo Duke on dukes of hazzard smallville Dr Quinn medicine woman and now dancing with our season twenty seven good to see you. John mazing. Amazing. Thank you. Could be. I just, I can't believe I'm dumbstruck right now. I did not know what we just discussed in the television only segment the generally. Yes, guarantee owned by Bubba, Watson. Yeah, masters winner. Multiple crazy in the year he wanted. He had just bought that car and he had it in the parking lot. So he pulled the clubs out of the unless somebody brought him, but I think by know Bubba. So he's the kind of guy that would have pulled the clubs out of the trunk of the generally in gone, won the masters and you know, thrown his throne, his climb in the window through the green jacket in the backseat and took off yelling. Is that how. That how you met because he had purchased the, oh, there it is. He bought the car and that is the number of the one, not the one that, but the first car we had right, and he wanted me to sign it for him out in Scottsdale. Okay. And I said outside it, but I have to play around golf with you. So he brought me out and I signed the car. We played around of golf, which was just unbelievable and yeah, and he's had the Carver since I think it's great. So you're player right? You played off? I am. And I, you know, I wanna play golf well, so badly. Just great way to put it. Yeah, a great way to put it to regrets in life one that I didn't start golf sooner in one that I started golf at all. Just kicks my, but it does it really just talking to Marcus whereabout because DeMarcus is dancing with the stars. And we think that the hardest that the reason why golf is so hard in why maybe a happy Gilmore. Got it. Right. Is that happy Gilmore turn it into a reaction. Because when you play ping pong, you're reacting. When you're out window, talked DeMarcus. When you're out there playing football, you are reacting to a lot of things. Enter your training, and your physicality is coming into it in your sense of survival and want to kill somebody is all in there. But we've got off, it's just sitting there and it saying, dude, I'm sitting here hit me anyway. You want how ever hard you want. And I'm just sitting here we and it. It takes the sports, the physicality out of its it. Does it kind of mocks you away messes with your has got, that's where the golf ball says of a golf ball could speak. It would say what you got. We did. We had once we had Pete Rose on on a great love. Pete Rose also talked about how he doesn't think golf. Is that difficult? I'm like, what are you talking about? He goes the ball's, not moving. He goes, I outta hit a. I had a hit a moving. That's what he said. Yeah, he goes. I had no idea where it was coming from, how is coming at me fast. Yeah, but it's it's fast, twitch muscles and all sorts of stuff that. Into play survival comes into play somebody throwing a ball, a hundred miles an hour. You're gonna wanna hit it writer to get it away. Yeah, but golf is tough because it's you're sitting there. So what's tougher golfer dancing. Dancing is like is like trying to learn thousand different golf strokes. Yeah. So I think I think dancing with the golfing stars would be a great idea now you're, I really do I because it's it's hard. You've got to think about where you're left or your, or that's why I'm not very good at it where you're right pinky is, and you're left little toe is so that Len doesn't call in where your elbows are. You're dependent that was a FOX trot, and depending upon the dance, it's it's all about like a golf swing. If your head is in the wrong place, then your feet are in the wrong place and the balls you're gonna slice the ball. I don't know if you saw Phil Mickelson's recent commercial for his new button-down. Golf shirt is dress shirt button down long sleeve, golf shirt, but he might have already started piloting dancing with the golf stars. He has. He did some dance moves and a leg kick. He really, it was something, you know, it's not the old joke about the golf shirt where you you tie string around your man parts and to your button to keep your damn head down. No. He goes, wow. What do you think the radio. Okay. Radio audience. Phil Mickelson. Don't worry. Oh, you've seen this guy. Wow. Okay. I've never seen. No, no, no waving finger those moves. Oh, come on really? How how fast would he be voted off dancing with the Gulf snow? I think he did well that was doing the worm. There's no way doing the. Shlomi the floss. Phil show me the flaws. So John Schneider here. Now you realize that you are not the only John Schneider on by do correct. I do realize that. Yes. And are we are we on radio? We are on radio, then you know you're a Michigan guy, so I'm going to have to tell you, I think the two most underrated running backs to ever play at Michigan in my opinion. You come correct with Jamie Morris and Tim, whose name I can hardly pronounce really to Bianca Bianca, Toco well-done. Right. And yeah. So what do you think about that? You agree with that. No, it's John. These are not notes. This is just just since we're on radio. This is just coming to my mind. What else is on your mind? What else is on my mind is I'm wondering. Did bow my namesake sham Boeckler. Yeah. Did he actually attend Michigan? He did not. He went to the, you went to Miami. Ninety went to Miami of Ohio, which is also referred to as the cradle of coaches Ango. We have a winner. We have a winner. Can you name any other famous Miami Ohio coaches besides Bo. Can I phone a friend on this phone? A friend phone me to list hold on. I want to phone a friend right now. John Schneider general manager of the Seattle Seahawks. You're on the phone line right now with that guy. Buddy. Everything's good. You guys. I'm trying to do you proud here. I know you gotta rip a name. Well, Woody Hayes, of course. I mean, come on. I happen to be watching television today. Would he clocked that kid? Is that right? Yeah, I I was what you being on the show. John don't don't worry about web. How about what about Gary Moeller? Gary Moeller come on. So do you John chanter of we? I know I need to do this properly. Football, John Schneider. How do you know how do you know actor Jonah Seahawks gentleman, John Schneider here on the phone right now? Yes. John mutual friend agent named Brad tests that are hooked up. Yep. And I was, you know, I was that kid Friday night, seven o'clock, you know, sitting in the family room couldn't wait for, you know, dukes on. That's my guy. It's so great John and I have this thing called talk Walker alerts. Okay. And I kept that's how I learned so much about you John because I, my name would kept popping up and I'm thinking, what have I done to get all this press? Was it me? No, it was you. It was you. So hopefully you got some of my press. At least it's, you know, it's woken you up in the middle of the night and you thought, oh, what wonderful thing? If I done now, did you know your dancing with the stars. Who's who's talking about you knew talking about me, right? That's right. Exactly. So we alert each other now John Schneider of the Seahawks anybody anybody ever thought that you were actually the John Schneider to my right. Has that ever happened to you? Actually would when I started the league checking into hotels and stuff like that, you know, you know the courtyards and that sort of stuff at schools going to school calls, people would be like you're not related to the real, the real John Schneider. Wow, wow. That's about that's about it. But more people would be like, hey, okay, if I, you know, you know, if I call you Bo, I was a huge. Hell my gosh, I love that. I love that. I did. I had some people think I was used. I think I took up like you are Super Bowl architect. Is that what you're she thought? Yeah, it was. It's it's interesting what people think that just it's interesting because you know the everything is they read it. I think it's true now. So there's another John Schneider to. That's that's a friend what I don't know if you know this other John Schneider, not John Schneider. John. His name is oddly enough, John Schneider, and he is rob Schneider's brother, really, and my brother's name and his friends call him rob. So we've got the John Schneider trio. I, I do you sing John. No. Hold a sheet music up and we'll sing. It's so great to talk to you next time I get up there, we're going to do a concert to or so when I get up there, hopefully we'll be able to actually connect. Now, they're only like Facebook friends and you guys text and do checks this morning. I said, give me some information and make me sound smart on the information football, John Schneider kinda do. John. The two, and he said spelled just pronounce it just like, like you would read choice been on Johnston, didn't take them back there either. No, I didn't. I avoid that one. The voided that I've been called Snyder for, I'm I'm gonna sell. So I've been called Snyder a lot. So you know, I try to avoid the multi Salah. Bec- names not at not at NY. Exactly. It's Schneider. Thank you very much. John Schneider up in the Pacific northwest next for call in. I had a hook this John. Just Johnstone. Great. Your go to guy, John goes. To do that. I've always wanted to do that. Got him right there. That's how I knew you should see why you're going to be surprised. Yeah, I said, make me look smart. I wanna do start bench cut with you if you don't. Okay. And then a little little Tiger Woods. Oh, sure. We can hit that to John Schneider here on the rich Eisen show. Tied down to sit down and be quiet or cut. Okay. So we give you three choices. You must start one. You must bench one. You must cut one. Okay. These are. These can be difficult. One can't play. You don't mean to cut one. No, he's a whole different thing where I came from out out out. Okay. Only one place wants bench and one is cut, Josh Nodar, start bench, cut the best deal out there. Currently, John Elway whose nickname is the Duke, the football whose nickname is the Duke. There's it's called the do because of Wellington Mara's nickname, was Duke back in the day, the owner of the giants or Duke basketball, which one's the best Duke out there. Oh, okay. You start LA I start Elway bench the football or basketball. Eventually I'd bench the basketball. Okay. And then you cut the football football's out golfer, I'm a golfer. Well, we give. We give Amish to football with Elway and we, you know, we, we share it. I understand. Can't have to football next one up for John Schneider start bench cut most iconic eighties automobile who the general Lee kit from nightrider or the DeLorean from back to the future. Well, you start the general Lee, okay. You cut hit and you've been the DeLorean. Why are we cutting kid is because it's a wannabe car. You could actually get that car generally was already an old car when we started a DeLorean had something I knew John DeLorean. So you had to add some things to make the back to the future car kit car was really kind of appropriately named kit car. This is not a John Schneider Hasselhoff feud that no, no, no, no, no. No, he wouldn't stand a chance that would be. All right. Last one for you, Josh. Start start bench cut. Okay. Best eighties, villain war cowboy hat JR Ewing from Dallas. All songs from dukes of hazzard or Buford t Justice from smokey. With that you use tell you what I Pol job is to Larry. So I would start view for t- Justice. I would venture boss hogging. I'd have to cut JR you. Oh, I mentioned JR Ewing a lot because I do show called the haves and have nots Perry show the haves and have not. And I play a guy that makes JR Ewing look like a choir boy that saying. Yeah, yeah. I used to say like a Catholic priest, but I don't say that anymore because yes, you shouldn't say that. But I, I play, I play a really nasty terrible guy on this show, and I love every minute of it. Loved Larry Hagman. But one of the nicest most wonderful people I've ever worked well, he was a doll, a bunch of like up fronts seals with a big. I dream of Jeannie fan. I love Larry, Hagman and Sorrell Booke from Buffalo. New York was a consummate actor, spoke seven different languages. You played boss Hogg so he spends seven. He was an amazing which language did he use with boss Hong. He made that up. Actually, he did. He would tell you why boss Hogg pronounce words, say dollars. He would say some Olins and he would say he says that word because he grew up here as parents were from such and such. And he went to school block. So he was he was, I would say, a consummate wordsmith and a what? If you study that link. Mystics major. So he was he was delightful and my gosh, I grew up. I love the honeymooners and I love the Jackie Gleason show. And when I was actually climbed the fence and BS my way onto the set of smoking the bandit on spend a day with Jackie Gleason what? Yeah. Yup. I spent. I was sixteen years old. I spent the day with Jackie Gleason. There was a kid beside him with a red. Was it radio flier with a keg in it? And Jackie would just he would be talking about stuff because I'm from mount Kisco, and I think Jackie was from like, scarsdale, we're both from Westchester county. So we had that in common and he just would hold the whole the mug out the kid would feel fill the mug up and he just, yeah, it was. On the set of spoke in the bed? Yes. And I'm in the very end of it. If if the very end credits when they they freeze frame, Sally says, go no hard feelings, junior, and then the car runs off in the the Cadillac comes up. They freeze frame a tire hits this big goofy looking kid with a cowboy hat in the shins and that's me at the end. So I'm actually in it until the the whole credit roll. But I got a free lunch. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. I love that. All right. Before we go, you wanna you wanna. Give me your golfing mount. Rushmore tiger said it was snee-. See I. My theory is that this whole time tiger has sucked that what he's been doing. He's been putting balls in the water intentionally. He's been aiming for the lily pad. So actually what he's been doing is he's been playing the best golf he's ever played, but dope. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Well, well. You can't. You cannot stage a comeback unless you've gone away. So he stays a comeback. He was very, he was very unusual. Tiger was he was so humble the other day and he should have waited a month or so. Somebody else should have said that that's he should not have said that that is the most tin foil sports take. I've heard in quite some time. I'm not sure what that means in for the conspiracy theorist right there, like a tin foil on it would be like, like Elway not being able to throw unless you cut his arm off than you can't throw a football. So what's your, who's your mount Rushmore, John Schneider, you're golfing mount Rushmore if you had to put four golfers up? Oh, well, I put him in there. I just wouldn't. I wouldn't have put me in there if I were him because people were just talking about this is an entirely different. Tiger Woods. He so appreciative. He's so friendly. He so thankful. He's so humble, he's a change man. He just he just, he just threw that out with both hands. He did. He did, and he didn't even grin after it. Oh yeah. Yeah, because he. Beyond question, he deserves to be there. Absolutely. With who, but you do not do not when you win the humility award and you do not wear it. Love that. Right. That's a great one. Sit still released on October second. Yes, John Schneider studios dot com. Or John Schneider studios on Facebook Alicia and I, we make movies, we made seven films since we met, we've released to will will release six sixty two songs this year for Guinness Book of world records, and they're all great. They're all singles each and everyone. I'm so John Schneider studios dot com that I said yet, John Schneider studios dot com. Well done, John underscores Schneider and dancing and dancing with the stars season premiere by the two hour, special Monday and Tuesday every single Monday, Tuesday at eight eastern time. Yes. You go Johnston by? Golly, I'm gonna try my hardest. We gotta take out d. where you got to take out the markets all my at the very least. I don't know. Is a force saying, take him down? No, no, no. Boy, he is what a, what a sweetheart he is. He wanted a sweetheart. He's a hall of Famer and every in every sense, and his mom was there on Monday night, which was so great. So so. Great. Well, don't let that fool you take them. No, no, no, no, I don't. Even he might have Castro. It might not even really been his mom. You know, John, I'm not above that spiracy taken his way out the door. Good to see what people are following you. Maybe they are. Thank you. 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He love when you follow us on our on our social media feeds as well. But I never thought certainly as a young man as a ten year old man, ten year old man. I wasn't a man yet even in the eyes of the Lord as a ten year old kid. Did in Staten Island New York would flip on the television sets on Friday nights. John Neider said football. John Schneider just said, never thought that Bo Duke would be asking me about Bo Shumba cler and I would have to correct. Bo Duke, or at least inform him of Tim Biakabutuka's name. I never thought that would ever happen though as a ten year old watching Bo, Duke Co. is that I would have my own TV show on day, of course, a dreamer that just happened. Check that box. Tim Bianca, Patuca. We had a, he came with a whole list by the way that he wanted to say sports was because he's teed loves golf and he's got other things in his life. So he's not his locked in on sports and that's fine. We don't need. I would rather talk with him about and get a story like he told about the on the set of smoking in the bandit and hanging with Jackie Gleason than I would try to get any sort of sports takeout of him if it wasn't for real. What were you saying over there? I was just saying like watching dukes of hazzard reruns as like an eight year old and then going out to our station family station wagon rolling down the window and trying to jump into the window. How'd that go for you? Not not great. Do you have literally wearing the scars from that right now? No, no, no, thank you. Didn't get that hurt? I didn't get that her, but it didn't go. Well, hey, we've all tried that. Of course. I still, I still slide across the hood to you really these days sometimes. Do you really why not? No kidding. Truecar is bringing you our final polls today terms like dealer price list, price invoice or no longer confusing because you get a true price with all of it included from truecar and you show up to your truecar certified dealer with that information. So they know what you know, you know what they know and it makes it for much more. Confident car buying experience. What do you have over there? Chris talking three, no teams Rams chiefs-dolphins which will be undefeated the longest sixty one percent the Los Angeles Rams. Okay. That's tomorrow. Rams and Vikings right here in Los Angeles, California. I can't wait for that one really the week. Four contests are great. We'll discuss it all day tomorrow on Thursday show. Let's get to Alan Dallas here on the program. What's up algae here that hold craziness. I've been with you three years. Probably top five interview. Anytime Jackie Gleason comes, I mean, and a legit, Jackie Gleason story comes in and that the fact that boss Hogg speaks seven languages. John Schneider talking to John Schneider. That was great. That was that was awesome. One thing from yesterday, Richard. Yes, sir. Yes. Helping you do might not even be in his top twenty movies, Tom Hanks movies. I'm with Brockman one hundred percent how now. Thank you. How when was the last time you saw that film? What's the last time I back Brockman. Okay, good point that that thing you do. Al is a perfect movie, good movie. I've never seen it. My man, you know, they'll let can't lie how here's what you need to do, do your homework and then call back on this front. I will. Thank you, sir. All right. All right. You haven't seen it by the way I did throw up the Twitter poll. Steamrolled. My list was good. Okay. I saw five. Good. Well, I saw your top five when you did put that thing you do in there and to me, that's a top five. You're just you're just agreeing with rich. Just agree with that movie. Well. Will agree to disagree on that even though you're terribly wrong tomorrow, show Neagh in himself from the Walking Dead, Jeffrey dean Morgan hard. Seattle fan will be here in studio, and maybe just maybe that back from Billy Wyatt's back from stealing home autographed by Jodie Foster Mark Harmon, we, we wrap it in barb wire and hand. Just for fun, fun for photographs purposes and down. Maury, the general manager of the Houston Rockets who I think if everybody asked despite the mania of LeBron in Los Angeles, the team has the best shot at knocking off. The warriors is the team that had that shot and had asked, could not get it done. They had it. Is he spending time today? Do you think trying to get Jimmy Butler? What is going on with Jimmy Butler. Lots to talk about with one of the best in the business in the association which is back and heating up and week four begins tomorrow. It will be a fun day in our neighborhood day, Daryl, Maury, Jeffrey dean Morgan, and you work on getting another guest or to anybody else named John Schneider that we could book. I think we're out of Johnson. I think we're out we're out of time on the next. We'll chat on Thursday. This week on off the vine, Kaitlyn bristowe is in studio with her bottle of wine handy to talk to the latest bachelorette Becca cuff 'ring so funny because I still feel like my normal self from small-time in the soda. Can we ever want that like I should pay you not to take a photo with me like, you don't want that checkout off the vine every Tuesday and Thursday on podcast one or wherever you get your favorite podcasts. Accuser. Number three. I'm Ed Donahue with an AP news minute of third woman is coming forward to accuse court nominee bread Kavanagh of sexual misconduct, heaven all says, he doesn't know who this is, and this never happened calling it ridiculous. And from the twilight zone, the Senate Judiciary committee also released the statement he prepared for tomorrow's hearing in which he denies sexually assaulting Christine, Blasi Ford who will also testify Kavanagh does it may to drinking with friends in high school saying he sometimes had too many and said, and did things that now make him cringe. That's the soccer megani. What does President Trump think of the latest allegations. Ridiculous. If the con game. The Democrats play this game is disgraceful to disgrace to the country, and I think you're gonna see it in the mid term. I think people wise to just a con game. The president was asked by a reporter. What's your next question? I'm Ed Donahue.

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102. John Schneider AKA Bo Duke  Christmas Cars, New Music & Bos Extravaganza!

Your Online Coffee Break

17:06 min | 1 year ago

102. John Schneider AKA Bo Duke Christmas Cars, New Music & Bos Extravaganza!

"We'll come to your online coffee break where we discussed. bite-size topics that inspires educates and entertains. Here's your host a software innovator award winning marketer and astronomy and space boss shock fields. Hey thanks for joining us today for your online coffee break nick. We have an exciting yesterday. Mr John Schneider of the dukes of hazzard fame but before it gets John just a couple of reminders. We're getting ready to launch or spin off series called your space journey launching on November fourteenth featuring interview with NASA administrator. Jim Breitenstein nine whilst they have other episodes coming up with Peter Back to CEO of rocket lab and even Queen Guitarist. Brian May. Here's a trailer of that. Show right now. Welcome to your space journey where we venture into the future of space as exploration and the incredible leaders who are taking us there disagreed represents the furthest that the hand of man has ever reached in terms of photographing. It'll never become now one. Fundamental Research. Question is really at the heart of nations and that is a question back is. We're learning Tana right now and asked to do with. Is there life outside right. It's a very fundamental research question if there ever I think it is the settlement of Mars in particular while it's possible. Existing propulsion absolutely can get to marcin six months consistent propulsion. It will drive. Don't Vance profession in the same way that European settlement of North America drove nautical technology. Your space journey is launching on Thursday November fourteenth. It's going to be available for free on all popular podcasts applications and a youtube described now for free. Just go to our website for more info at your space journey dot com. Now we again. Thank you for joining this podcast. Today you can help on my coffee coffee-break by liking us on whatever podcast application. You're listening to us on or if you're watching youtube we'd appreciate a like comment subscribe. That would be great too. We really appreciate your support and by sharing the episodes that helps us get the word out even more people just like you now. Let's turn onto our major guests today. We've we've had John's center on before but it was about a year and a half ago on episode thirty seven so I'm so pleased to welcome John Back to the show now. John's extensive acting acting career includes of course the academic role of Bo Duke on the Dukes of Hazzard as well as Jonathan. Kent on Smallville John was also a fan favourite on dancing with the stars last fall. And he currently stars as Jim Crier on the hit Tyler Perry's and the have nots. Since we last Brooklyn John. He's been quite pissy releasing new music and his new movie. Christmas cards is coming up just in time for the holidays. Welcome to the lifestyles and broken. Thanks hey would you mind signing this for my grandpa he loved doogie. Howser Dukes of Hazzard John on how you doing today? A great ivory we are. We are in Sunny Las Vegas for just another forty five minutes or so. We can't here to see the Sema show and we're going back to Louisiana almost great. Well listen it's been awhile since we talked not even sure remember. It's been about a year and a half your hair. Erlichs find something with it anyway. You've been so busy since we last talked. I mean you finish. The Odyssey project ended up with seventy two songs in two thousand eighteen. You've you've released several new albums you were on dancing with the stars and you got married. Congratulations thank you thank you wait. Wait Sir there it is. That's looking good. He's he's run oriented even more important got divorced. Yes yeah. We're glad Canadian very important ingredient. Yeah so it's been and we made a movie. We made Christmas cards. We'll tell me about Christmas. The trailer just looks fantastic. All about I can always comes up. Chris cars are so great it's it's a story a wonderful story kind of like an episode of Dukes of hazzard where the good guys have flaws was. The bad guys are bad. But you know there when the push comes to shove their human rights and If it weren't for community if it weren't for the integrity Indian and hard work at my friends that would be able to make it to the end of the day which is the proper ingredient to agreements to an episode of that that is open. We made this movie I guy who thrives is on the fortieth anniversary of Lion Television. Show Ride Bo's general Lee Nice and all of a sudden just when I when I think things are coming up roses. Somebody goes online and says that my car and and therefore I sell are the universal signs of racism and intolerance right. which as you know happen yes has or not showing? They're not showing hazard on. CD Land Anymore. The not going anywhere in the United States anymore. It's still by the way it's syndication. Cova is only lean not on here is trump crazy. I mean the confederate flag corrupt. Show a lot of us out there gonNA with. It is the least racist show. I never could imagine. I can't imagine that a brand that is totally colorblind. Show Yeah Jason pointed me when I travel around a lot and people are very excited about out Christmas cards. I have white people I have black. People have yellow people. People is their work new people I would have been we love love. Love to do some Hazard N. We'd I'd love the haves and have thoughts right so it's real people at any problem as or or you're not getting a bunch of slack about Kris cars now right from the not so silent minority is real. People had any problem with that. The car you're don't you think I would know they would tell me they don't they. Don't tell me tell me is be and my brother and my cousin used to fight about who will replace help. And it doesn't matter where you're from how old they are colored anymore is low the Dukes and that's why I think Christmas is going to be not just on Russell's Grand Slam. I do too because even have the career Near A it's just like a Dukes of hazzard episode and I understand that you actually do your own stunt driving in this idea that I do. I actually jumped. The again will be nice shelf generally show and I kept it. So you see this me in the car wearing a helmet and I wear my orange bowl to kill Nice Pretty cool and as for the ballot for me. It's November voice out there that Jonny Lee Jonny Lee has that China's China sarcastic kind of I've got a secret thing that Waylon hang in Wayland said you know he knew something is not that he know something. So I give me the reunion shows. We have the Don Williams was valid. Your once impacting. Near the second time and I love those guys but I think Johnny Wisdom says fantastic now about the release of the movie. I understand that they can preorder your. DVD's coming out around Thanksgiving. Is that right. Yeah the DVD. We're doing everything we can ship the DVD the Monday of Thanksgiving week so that they can have it by what we are calling. Orange Friday nice only orange Friday unrooted generally and this recovering Yankee. I'm from new. York says is the tearing down. I think incorrectly Rex Lee Sullivan tearing down all these confederate lines right so. I thought it was time for a recovering Yankee building. And that's what orange Friday. So if you want your copy of Christmas cars for sale after that but the prices were better. If you want your copy of Christmas tree order organiser everything we can. I've been citing putting on facebook. They sent me the the covers the actual DVD's because those are still being a aw great rest and I've been signing okay for covers of Christmas cards for about three weeks now and all to Up to right around ten thousand. Oh my gosh. I can't imagine you signed that much. That is so great so again. It's the perfect gift for those Doc. Hard Dukes of Hazzard fans personalized Christmas cars. How cool is that candidates rate and? Also if you're a fan of this terrific if you like your it's you listen to the redneck. Rebel much redneck. Rebel album is in prison spots. That's okay I actually John. I wanted to talk about that. Our redding rebel. I love it when my favorite songs comes off there is a long way from lonely bomb with from a great song. That's where I am right now so is Is As we put a bunch of music. Her they're nice. Yeah Christmas cards. Also we put our absolute opposite of Redneck. Rebel album is our recycling grace album. We put some of the the recycling grace music because it is wonderful. It's costly music. That's in Christmas cards. And because it's Christmas cars. We put some of our merry the Christmas baby using life that you Santa Claus. Mary Christmas game. You have a Holly Jolly Christmas. Those songs are also in Christmas. This is fantastic. Even from your America's baby that just came out last year one of my favorite songs. So there's the Auld Lang sign I got that right exactly. Yeah Sorry Dirksen. You're gonNA love that song. Perfect time for Christmas. Two and he. You mentioned Recycling grace that's my job. Aw is again just so many of the songs. Just what was your inspiration behind doing that. I thought that was wonderful. We had the at least in I- All we didn't realize that we both had a favorite song. It was recorded via the E. Five Blind Blind Boys Alabama. The song The amazing grace to the tune of housing devising son. That's been a favorite song of mine a favorite version of mine for years while we were gonNA Franz fuel and it turns out one of one of the the blind boys melanoma was there and he sang that song. So our friend Reggie young actually hit played on that song so at least two inches. That's always been one of my favorite song is like well be too nice. People have been asking me to allow album for decades so we looked at each other and said well. Maybe it's time to docile at the end of the funeral on. PJ Thomas for decades PJ came up gave me a hug met Alicia and then said John. What are you GonNa do a Gospel now? I saw God absolutely. Hey in Moscow album and nothing is so As soon as we decided to do it we have these wonderful songs. Also fly away. We did a yeah. That's Sing Hallelujah. which is a wonderful song? Writer for cargo and one of Lisa's favorite song. That's my job so I don't. I don't know if a more emotional song I used to. I don't know of a moral wishful song. So what an honor. It will us to sing that song and and You haven't heard it yet. Give them a sense of recycling. Breaks our dear friend stock. Talk Radio that rouge actually wrote recycling race for an organization that helps women shelter I think he's in Ohio call recite so it was kind of like the the wagons for circle this album not not done so we did John here music. It's just incredible. When you're acting is incredible? I cannot wait to Christmas. Cards comes out one last thing if I could ask you about you did this one event each year. That cannot wait to go to. I need to get done. Their bows extravaganza. He tells more about that for my birthday every year. My birthday is April eighth and we do it on the weekend though. So this year extravaganza hours third annual is on April fourth and fifth. And I'm not going to tell you that we have. We have some pretty great talent lineup. So be he's singing. I don't not Saturday on Sunday. The first year we had kissed ropes last year we had kid rock and this year we got her next year. Excellent and dozen very very special folks. It's you're GONNA love. I've been listening to almost all my life there. That's my clue. So that's I cannot wait to find out who that helicopter mice that's worth Trumpington will be actually trump something. I'm not sure if I'm gonNA tell the General Economic Donald Trump something further than I jumped last year And we're going to shop. We're pretty smart. chumps that idea proposed. Extravaganza is the jump that we used in Christmas cars so when we junk car when I jumped the car for Osa trangens twenty twenty. We're going to be using that job up for a movie we're GONNA do in February called stand on it which is a tribute to the bench right now recording music. Think for that movie and that come down in February not killed film in February okay. Excellent will come out the end of end of summertime. Plenty else in. Stand on stand stand on the gas. Go bomb well. That's perfect John. My Gosh what's going on. You've got so domus going on now. Actually what we are. We are going to We're going home today. And then on Saturday we fly to New York. Because I've been asking comment and reprise my role as Erin in Grand Hotel. Nice four are two shows for charity on Monday night at a wonderful theatre. I wish I could tell you the name of it. I can't but it said I don't remember it. Forty second and ten street right in the middle of Broadway. We're doing two shows only Monday night. Seven eight nine thirty soggy during the Grand Hotel which tribe not done in thirty home. Gosh that'd be fantastic. I love that about you to give back to the community. You even our co founder of the Children's there's miracle network which I think is fantastic. That's been raised seven point seven seven point eight billion dollars billion. That's hostels yeah. That's pretty fantastic. I think you should give back no you. I think everybody should give back. But I think it's you've been given a little extra for whatever reason than you definitely. She knew that asks have quite well. John are exemplary of that. And I appreciate it I just want I wanNA thank you for taking time to wish you Alicia one for holidays for Christmas coming up all right. Thanks so much for joining us. Enjoy Christmas cars not John Studios Jones dot com reorder. Your Christmas cars today online coffee break. Wow I really enjoyed my conversation with John Today. Opie to if you're let's find out more about his new movie Christmas cars or to preordered just good. His website at John Steiner Studios Dot Com. I want to think John for joining us today. I WANNA thank you for joining us today as well again. We'd love it if you'd subscribe. It's free on your favorite podcast application or on Youtube. We love it. If you'd rate us on your pockets out predation or youtube as well or share this episode with a friend again. We really

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NPR News: 04-21-2020 4AM ET

NPR News Now

04:39 min | 7 months ago

NPR News: 04-21-2020 4AM ET

"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Shay Stevens. President trump says he will temporarily suspend all immigration into the United States. Npr's John Schneider has more on the president's overnight tweet. President trump sent the tweet as his administration is under pressure amid the corona virus. Pandemic referring to what he called the attack from the invisible enemy and citing the need to protect jobs. The president said he will be signing an executive order. He did not say winning. The White House has yet to flesh out the president's announcement the impact of such a move is not clear. The president often points to the restrictions imposed in late January on travel from China as proof that his administration took the crisis seriously early on Democrat so are rejecting. The president's announcement has an effort to divert attention from the administration's Response Trial Snyder. Npr News president trump says he hopes the Senate votes today on four hundred fifty billion dollars. Stop gap bill to replenish of relief. Fund for Small Businesses and their workers. Republicans requested emergency funding last week when the program ran out of money. Democrats say any additional fund should include help for struggling local governments as well as hospitals and healthcare workers. Several governors are expressing mixed feelings about restarting their economies amid growing protests over. Stay at home. Orders Georgia's Brian. Kemp says many businesses in his state can reopen this week. We will allow gyms fitness centers bowling alleys body art studios barbers cosmetologists hair designers nail care artist s decisions their respective schools and massage therapist to reopen their doors. This Friday April the twenty four Kemp says Georgia movie theaters private. Social Clubs and restaurants may presume business on Monday as long as the owners enforced social distancing and sanitation guidelines a meat packing facility in Minnesota is closing indefinitely after health officials in that state linked dozens of covert nineteen cases to the facility as Matt Sepik of Minnesota Public Radio reports. It's the second big slaughterhouse in the region to close the pandemic the shutdown of J. B. S. pork processing in Worthington. Minnesota comes a week after Smithfield. Foods closed a similar facilities sixty miles away in South Dakota Minnesota Health Commissioner. Jan Malcolm says it didn't take investigators long to Lincoln Uptick in Area Cove in nineteen infections to J B s but she says tracking down workers has been difficult over. Forty languages are spoken in J. Plant. A lot of these individuals don't necessarily have ideal housing situations some of them. Don't have telephones Malcolm also says some J. B. S. workers are undocumented immigrants and may be afraid to speak with interviewers for NPR news. I met in Minneapolis and from Washington. You're listening to NPR news. A federal appeals court says Texas ban on medically induced abortions may be enforced during the Kovic nineteen pandemic. The ruling came in a legal battle over Texas guidelines listing abortion as a non essential medical procedure that could drain resources needed to fight. Corona CORONA virus cases abortion rights advocates are accusing several conservative states of using the pandemic to justify antiabortion policies. Francis lifting its ban on family visits to nursing homes as the country tries to balance covert nineteen. Safety concerns with compassion. Npr's Eleanor Beardsley. Reports at the move comes as the death toll in France tops. Ten twenty thousand at his daily press briefing. The Minister of Health said France had now passed the symbolic and painful bar of twenty thousand deaths. Nearly a third of those were in the country's seven thousand homes for the elderly visits have been barred for the last month but now family members will be allowed in under strict conditions. President Emmanuel macron ordered the exception to Francis strict block down to ensure families are allowed to see the sick at the end of their lives and say goodbye he said many nursing home directors have argued in favor of easing restrictions on family visits noting that the psychological health of many residents has deteriorated sharply after weeks of isolation. Eleanor beardsley NPR news. Paris on stock markets in Asia shares are lower down over two percent and Hong Kong and Tokyo. Us stock futures have been volatile today in pre-market trading after yesterday's decline. I'm Shay Stevens. Npr News in Washington.

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Classical Classroom, Episode 204: A Peculiar Harry Partch Primer, with John Schneider

Classical Classroom

35:57 min | 1 year ago

Classical Classroom, Episode 204: A Peculiar Harry Partch Primer, with John Schneider

"Hello everyone it's me Dacia how far though you're about to hear my conversation with John Schneider not not that Josh totally different guy this. John Schneider is a human man who does music related things things and who I'm going to introduce properly in just a moment but first. I just wanted to take a moment to say this was one of the most fascinating discussions have had an A. Longtime. John is just a natural teacher and Harry Arch about whom we talk. I mean hold onto your hats. People there are those who think outside the box and then there are those those who were like what is box and then they just create their own universes altogether. That's what I like about. Harry parch and I also like that he was hilarious. I think Tom Waits meets. A brilliant classical musician meets a mad scientist or something also don't forget put it on on your list to subscribe to rate and review our little show on itunes and also if you'd like to support us with a gift from your bank account or your mom's you can do so at Costco classroom show dot com. It's a fabulous website may Barra friends at New Y. You just look for the little pink tip jar button. I'm almost at a breath. There's a rumor going around that classical music can be. Why did he the here in the classroom. We Beg to differ Beethoven Five G I did it. Classical music is zone where we have to feel restricted or we have to act a certain way yeah. That's not going to be helpful going forward shaking with exciting autoimmune. There's just so many great parts of the opera. ps Me to play his favorite spot in the first round around lakes guitar solo classical music rockstars because there's not enough of that in this business choose me me. I would plug in demanding to my distortion pedal. I don't change my voice and talking to clarify. I'm playing classical music now. I the same twelve notes was so cool about it. I'm Dacia Klay Classical Music Newbie and I'm trying to learn all I can about the music combined with me and the classical music experts I invite into the classical classroom and now for something completely different. Hello everyone and welcome to the classical classroom classroom. I'm your host station here with me is John Schneider. John is the Music Director of the Parche Ensemble that on Samba just released Sonata dementia their third volume of music by composer Harry Parche volume one earned a grammy nomination in volume two won a grammy award for best classical compendium and was also nominated. I needed for best chamber music performance by the Grammy People John Welcome. Thank you so I WanNa talk just briefly for our listeners who don't know about who ooh Harry Parche was in his kind of musical legacy is go forward. I would love to hear your take on well. I mean I wanNA hear your. You're the expert uh-huh okay. I'll go sounds good. I feel like that's the appropriate way to go. So Harry. Parche was so a composer performer theorist show and all of the above he was born in nineteen o one died in one thousand nine hundred seventy four and when he was in his late teens he discovered a book called the sensations of tone by a German physicist he adjusts of entered college and realized is that he wasn't getting what he needed so he started educating himself out of a library books and he found out that there actually is another another way of listening to music talking about music that we can hear a lot more notes than he could find on his piano and he found out the the the the physics behind it the whole theory behind it and started building musical instruments basically he started because the human voice as you can tell right now. I'm not singing in and scales otherwise this would sound like an opera or regular talking voice slides up and goes down and he wanted to figure out a way to capture that as a composer composure so he could reproduce it so he ended up eventually coming. I'd creating an a scale with forty three notes to the octave. Now we normally on a piano have twelve and forty. Three's not bad. He got really angry later on he says no no forty. Three's totally arbitrary. It's it's a quarter part of a half truth truth. Ikea you can hear thousands of just forty three because that's how many I wanted to make on my instruments and by the time he died heavens he he had made over over thirty customer musical instruments that could play the scale of forty-three notes per octave and more when he needed to wow. What kind of instruments tournaments are we talking about. I know I know that you know in the in the new music tradition like with the John Cage and people are things like the prepared haired piano where things are serve inserted into the piano to make it sound a little bit different intake to get some different sounds out of it but you're talking about whole new instruments intruments yes and no and it's fascinating you should bring up cage because his first instruments purchase. I instruments. He called adapted musical instruments. His I wasn't adapted field which is basically a viola but he got a little crazy and had a violin maker. Put a cello neck and fingerboard on it so the strings were long and that became his his first instrument The second was an adapted adapted guitar. He bought a regular guitar but he ripped the frets out and put them in all different places so it could play all these tiny notes ooh wanted to or then. He made his first original instrument which doesn't sound like it is. It's called a Cafaro or Kibera but that's an ancient Greek instrument. He was very well versed in ancient Greek music and he wanted to create three something like that but it wasn't a melodic harp. It was a harmonic harp so instead of wine of single notes like the modern harp. It was online of six chords times twelve so it has seventy two strings. Take that no he was a keyboard player right. He was a pianist. He actually trained gene to be a concert performer so he he knew keys. He then adapted a reed organ. Because the shape of a piano of course worse is determined by the length of the strings. The length of the strings is run by twelve notes prerogative but when you have five or six seed sharps to go to that and then a bunch of ds at that at the piano strings don't work there aren't enough of them so he took an old fashioned pump organ and removed who've read and re-tuned them because they're all the same size and created what he called. Chroma the great name. I don't amazing Dr Seuss Steph Right and at that point he started making percussion. Shen instruments and these were absolutely those weren't adaptations they were brand new a Marimba whose whose keys or blocks if you will were laid the shape of a Diamond Monument Bass Marimba where the keys were like six Dixon seven feet long and played really really low notes he cut huge basically spark what's bottles battles but they were lab bottles made out of PYREX and made cloud chamber bowls by cutting these these huge things in heaven making glass gongs. I am like imagining this sort of like steam punk meets. Willy Wonka mad scientist man creating creating these instruments out of what he sees necessity. We very much not just for fun. He wasn't just messing. Awesome ends exactly exactly. He had a sound in his head that he was looking looking for and had to make himself. He's the original. DIY composer wow that I mean that is really diy the best kind of diy where it's like what you need to express yourself in whatever way like literally doesn't exist so you have to create it from from the ground owned up so I you know I I know that that Harry Parche dealt in a lot of what is called micro tones and that's that's kind of is that kind of what you're talking about here well that's exactly because we're used to twelve notes per octave but there's a whole bunch of notes you can hear in between those and there's small that's why they call them micro so between a C. and a C. Sharp on piano the that's it you can only go to the black known above the white no but he es four or five notes in between those would the the thing is that what makes parche sort of difficult. I guess is I'm AH. I don't want to get into the the legacy that he's he's left us. How before we get into the album because you'RE IN SEATTLE. We've got the Harry Parche Institute the University of Washington and at the Harry Potter Institute they have the Parche instrumentarium and they you know groups of people get together to play these instruments instruments and they'll they'll take these instruments to other cities sometimes but but that Kinda brings up the you know though you purchased music is is so interesting and the thinking behind his music assert interesting doesn't it isn't it problematic because in order to play this music that he's left. You have to have these certain instruments like how how does your ensemble get around that are built new ones of of course you did it. At at this point on the planet. There are the original instruments which leaving Seattle. There's my group and we have. We don't have them all yet. We have twenty twenty out of twenty four of the final versions of these instruments and you'll making them one every year. Now I personally am not making the Sawdust I I hire a luth years and professionals but I put the project together and tune them and help redesign them and that sort of thing and I gotTa tell you we're not the the only one after I got started. A German group got obsessed about this a group called Musique fabric and they with huge funding. I'm paying for all the stuff out of my own pocket right right. They got the German government money and corporate money and they built the entire set in a year. It's taken me twenty years to get up to eighteen so I'm still working on them so yeah. Absolutely you have to have the instruments period. I mean there it is. Do you think that this is a weird assigned but do you think that that Parche Amazon's like. I said he sounds like a mad scientist like he just became obsessed with this idea. Do you think he was even thinking about like okay well. How does this music persist. When I'm when I'm gone and you know like was he was he thinking about things things in a broader context or was he just a person who is sort of monomaniacal focused that is a great question. I ask myself that often. I I think the answer is he wouldn't come right out and say it but he wrote a book called Genesis of a music which literally told the story of all of his research research and the instruments how he built them how they're tuned etc etc also from the nineteen fifties onward. He made recordings reportings of his music so he said several times in public. It's not the same as being in the room but this is a document. This is how it's done now. You have to to ask yourself and I'm very fond of saying this. Yes Genesis of a music is a theory book. It's a history book but it's also a cookbook. If you pay the very close attention he's giving you the cues. Here's how you do it. Here's how you make them. So what I did of course was a go over every sentence sentence a in great detail but I had the luxury of living close to the instruments when they were in San Diego and then they they moved to the east coast for a while I I would go visit them and I would measure them photograph them record them and come back and make copies so yeah. I'm pretty sure at some level well you know why else would you all this incredible music hours and hours of music and I gotTa tell you people get obsessed with the instruments of course because they're so weird so wonderful wonderful but you know there's lots of people on this planet that have made weird and wonderful instruments but they didn't make great music for them and that's that's really the cutoff point. It's all about the music everyone I'm taking a break from my interview with John Schneider to tell you about our sponsor this episode of classical classroom sponsored by maestro classics. 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You can also save seventeen percent off of your order by using coupon code classroom. Yay Okay now back to my conversation with John. Snyder okay at your grammy winning guitarist. You're you're. You're classically trained. You have this traditional music education occasion behind you. If one were to look into your biography they would think this is a sane man trained you know Oh in this music tradition so what drew you to this very peculiar music to this very peculiar composer to which you've dedicated a lot of your life in time and money same answer the music when I was studying I've been trained composer as well when I was studying modern music in the late sixties early nineteen seventies all the rage was European Avant Garde serial music and and then all of minimalism started that come in but all of a sudden. I heard this music by Harry Party and it was it was visceral and here's I gotTa tell you it was funny. That's what really got me you mean. You can have humor and music. If you've ever heard piece Barstools holy warriors number to gentleman go to five thirty east lemmon Avenue Monrovia California for an easy he had to five thirty east eleven avenue in Monrovia foreign easy and your ooh and all of a sudden I was hearing harmonies. I didn't know existed for thought. Okay this is this is good and I I basically used to say I fell in love with the music but it was more than love. It was actually I had to obtain. It's basically it's like when you hear Bach and go my God that that French suite is so beautiful. I wanted underneath my fingers. That's the exact feeling about parch and the only way to do it as we sure. Just gotTA. Do It yourself yeah you. You you yourself become a diy so. I yeah like the this some this album that you guys just put out. This is volume three is the final volume in a set or is is it. Is this an ongoing series or were just getting started early. So what what is sort of framing the the volumes like what was are you is all from a particular moment in perches life. He seems like he was a really prolific guy. He was indeed and in fact we've sort of recapitulated his life. I have built instruments in the same order that he did and made the music that he made those instruments. His music was handed around of you know once again he he made a living selling his own. LP's talk about independent it music right this is in the nineteen fifties and then eventually they ended up on on a label called composers recordings inc when it was still the land of LP's now all of those are held by something called New World Records and it's in four volumes of the music that he personally only recorded but we have at least five or six volumes to go at least because he wrote a couple of so. They're not really operas but they are their music dramas. There are extraordinary pieces that that are meant to be danced and that's a whole other side in fact the platter and Percussion Dances and that is a a dance drama. Nobody's ever danced it. We actually commissioned choreography for one of the pieces but the stuff is waiting to be love manifested still and it's not just the music it's not just the instruments people were supposed to move and be well. The word he came up with music should should be corporeal but should be of the body. It should be visceral. It should be emotional. You were talking about John Cage. He knew John John Cage. They ran into each other often and he says you know the problem with cages. He put the whammy on emotion for Harry was all about emotion and also deep. Will there's a lot of psychology in there too and also a sense of humor and a sense of drama. He did not have an easy life and some some of his music is very dark very dark homeless for a little while a long while a long while in fact act some of that was self imposed. He was a Hobo during the thirties. That's what a volume. One is is bitter music. which was his diary from ninety four six weeks? Excuse me six months in the middle of nineteen thirty five during the depression but he was following the crops he was he was in homeless shelters. He got arrested should for being a vagrant. He was picking fruit for a living all the Y.`all. Creating this music has head and eventually the nineteen forties he got to work wow well and and so in volume three. I I know this comes from the the sort of inspirations for these pieces come from a lot of a lot of different sources but what was going on and purchase life at the time that you know something like ulysses at the edge of the world the first piece on the album that peace is hilarious he was living in Sausalito and he was hanging out with somebody helped him build his magnificent Marimba Ero- Arocca this this Contra Contra Bass Ero- Ika and the guy that was helping build it was a percussionist and he played with Chet Baker and and the guy said Hey why don't you write a piece for chat wow and he did and that's always is now. Eventually that was the first version of this piece at and then later he added he added a baritone saxophone part because of course Chet Baker in Gerry Mulligan play together all the time uh-huh and that's what this piece is from the mid nineteen fifties now the album is is all over the map in terms of It covers basically two decades worth of music. The earliest pieces pieces are from a nineteen forty nine and nineteen fifty of that's what's not dementia comes from nineteen forty nine. He was living on the coast to northern coast of of Northern Northern California and he wrote a song cycle called the intrusions so that's all from that era and then Sonata the dementia the other pieces from the mid fifties from nineteen fifty eight. It's a film score for a film hold wind song and it is extraordinary. It's it's all about the the myth of Daphne GonNa Paulo so he made that score and he had like any film composer. He had to cut it up a bit to fit the actual movie what what we have done. We've actually recreated the original before any of the cuts happened so no one even Harry himself is never heard this done completely from beginning and so this is the first time that's happening and then all of our reporting we always like Harry to come drop by and give us a couple of words so at the very end. We've discovered a nineteen forty two recording. Harry parche performing his own piece borstal. You're still for a group of students at Eastman in Rochester and he gives a little talk beforehand and that's that's one of the bonus tracks ends the album this eight hitchhikers inscriptions which I called Var still which has set to music. I got just east of Barstool California. I copied them from this railing. Barstool is in one of those peculiar situations that that a hitchhiker finds only in the West it is very easy to get into almost impossible to get out of the last one of the intrusions is something called cloud chamber music which features a cloud chamber bowls those glass pyrex bowls that are cut but what he it did is quote and Indian chant from the Islamic Indian tribe in Arizona he would actually paid to transcribe it. It was was an edison recording one of those edison roles and he remembered it and put it in that piece well we found the original. Edison role role in the album with two bonus tracks. There's harassing in nineteen forty two and then there's our mon singing. The Casinos Machos from nineteen in order for the only for some salads or month art man. Oh so we get the source and then we get you purchased loss on it. It's pretty cool yeah I I went into the the twelve intrusions I think like as I was as I was looking through those speaking of of where Parche Kinda took his his various inspirations. I was just there's voice in anything. It's your voice talking to you. I'm realizing it. It's your yeah. That's me these pieces and become from from sources like like letters from pieces in literary journals from ancient Chinese verse. Yeah us very very well read very literate seems like all of these things that he was interested in just kind of made their way into into his work very much so when you say my voice of we might want to warn or invite our listeners to know that this isn't singing he called old in toning so he wrote the exact when I go like this and my voice goes up he would actually show where that was supposed to go so I'm actually speaking at the pitch levels that he would have used himself and in fact even better than that because in nineteen forty nine up in Allala in Mendocino. Does he know county. He actually recorded some of those pieces those intrusions so we know exactly how he intoned them. It's written out. Eh Thank Heavens according as well Bach. We don't have recordings of put all all of the man over the water surprise by show do laundry That's kind of great like you've actually you. Can you can actually hear what the composer intended. Oh yeah that's that's gold. It reminds me so much of Tom. Weight has the really similar I kept thinking about. Tom Waits as I was listening to this. It's not very similar sense of humor to the absolutely great Parche Fan to aw oh well but see that that makes so much sense now because I've always known that there was I mean it's just a great character but like there's something very particularly. He seems to come out of a tradition so this that makes a Lotta sense speaking of traditions. I WanNa know like this. This music is I mean it's it's. It's really it's arresting. It's great to to listen to MBA's drawn and as soon as I turned on the the CD and and I but I was wondering and how this is linked to the classical music tradition. How is how is it linked and where does it depart well? It's not for nothing that he called it. A SONATA DEMENTIA RIGHT IT's in three different movements and it has different moves the the Middle Moving Buba slower the wind song one piece is virtually like an opera. There are leitmotifs. There's a theme for Daphne. There's for Apollo The I mean he played the grace even to the end of his life. sometimes when he was in the mood he would go over to the piano can't play Lebron's piece so he he knew about the structure of music but he invented just the way invited new scales new instruments instrument he invented some new structures to there's a piece called Castro in politics from our second album which is as far as I know. It's the only it's the second time ever in western music where a composer takes music and plays it. I hear and then plays something new you play something new but then has all three parts played simultaneously. It's an overlay. It's a multiple exposure. Darius mio did that with his string offset. The first half was history quartet number three or whatever it is the second half was a he wrote a completely different string quartet number four but his ach tet was three and four plate at the same time so in Harry Parr. She's got a two minute duel with two instruments and brand new music for two more instruments this brand new music for two more instruments and then all six of them play at the same time and that happens twice because of course casteran pollock's are the twins of Gemini Right Right so that that's taking a concept a structure of the doesn't exist in western music except for Darius meal which I don't think he knew knew that piece of music but it's completely logical at structural and it's no different from having a recapitulation or development section. It's a method of taking music that is familiar and seeing it from a different point of view so I think what I'm hearing you say is that this this is the tradition that he came from a new well and and he N- new the the framework in the theory and all of that behind it an but he he took it and did kind of his own thing with it. Well heck is not exactly what Beethoven did fair point yeah the classical forms and just twist to them and the critics on the audiences were just so confused and some of them were just indignant indignant and then you know. Beethoven himself says Oh no this isn't for you. This is for future generations and he was right and I got to tell you part. You're very much a a for the years before he made his first big recording deal at the end of his life with Columbia records. He was trying to tell people this is a way to this is a new way. We I'm not trying to destroy Western music. I Love Western music. I'm trying to go somewhere else. I'm trying to cause ferment uh-huh uh-huh well and I mean isn't that what happens to so many creators who who are steeped steeped in a tradition who then realize where that tradition can go wind taken to to a new place and then and then they face a lot of protest from the the powers that be that want to keep keep things as they are but but like everybody who's ever moved tradition forward has has this through the face that haven't they oh yes absolutely you know. Nicholas Leninsky has this wonderful book called lexicon of musical invective meaning. He put together chapter. After chapter of chapter of all the bad reviews that the great composers got in their own. That's amazing the oil. It's it's Hilarious to read right. You'd think the music was just like you'd want to throw it away but these are the greats. This is the standard classical Canon that we listened to now in parts very much said the same thing this is this is new. This is something that needs to be. You know embraced because it's a new why would you he wrote beautifully as as well as he spoke at one point he said consider the artists. If he wants read great I mean he can but what if he wants read that's a little a little lighter and his little way you can take a little white paint and mix it and you can take a little blue paint and he can create. The penalty wants exactly exactly now. Let's look at the musician if he wants to note see there it is what if he wants something a little no sorry there's only one see why shouldn't we as musicians be able to have shades of see shades of C. Sharp in order to create something new a new uh oral language set of a visual language and you know people taking off people are listening you know ever since computers got involved micro turnout turnout this this whole concept you know twelve notes per octave. We can actually hear as many as five to six hundred notes prerogative. We are physically capable of differentiating upwards to six hundred pitches. Why are we only using twelve. Wow this this is a really really excellent point and I think also could place for us to stop but John. This conversation has been absolutely fascinating as as is this album is absolutely arresting and thank you so much for taking the time to teach me about this today and and we should definitely talk again excellent Pixel. Hey we'll talk when volume four comes out sounds great. I'm GonNa hold you to that all right John Schneider of the Perch Samba. Thanks for talking to me at key. FM Today a great pleasure thank you. Thanks all right everyone that does it for this episode. For more episodes classroom show dot com for an exhausting. I mean exhaustive archive of all of our old episodes. Social media links free balloon animals and your wildest dreams come true today to the home of classroom king. FM where we only cleanly only guests are coming over. 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Side Stories: Day of Reckoning

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Side Stories: Day of Reckoning

"The Mayor Willy Wizard Jake. And it's you're Bristling Bruiser Holden McNealy and we are so excited to announce paid seven and wizard and the bruiser live in Los Angeles California California Wednesday December Eleventh Twenty nine thousand nine at the region theater. Tickets are only twenty two dollar. Where can they get them? Jake type in your little web bar go to last podcast network dot com slash p seven live. That's last podcast network dot com slash p seven live. We'll see you there folks sir else. I'll cry. Yeah he'll cry. There's no place to escape tunes. WHO's the lost cast on the left side stories? Cannibalism started and Oh Yeah Oh man. Undersea decide stretches. And I'm doing. I do see those aside stretches. You're doing yeah. Open the guts for some fucking jam in some food so to my poking holes is weak eight minutes after the Food Horn at the beginning of week. Sometimes I do that assumed horny. I sit in an. I'm eating one meal and I know I know that I have a specifically planned other big meal. That's coming in the future. When you cheat on the meal that you're eating by fantasizing the sizing about another meal emotionally cheating not physically cheating but I sit in and I do and I think and get kind of a titter I have a titter are inside of me knowing that I'm going to have some? Because Jackie's making Samak and Jay from excited for we're going to gain a techie own on. I'm watching these videos on deep fried Turkey and might convince Jackie to try it. Yeah Oh God I'm just getting so fucking big for it. Well indeed you are welcome to side side stories. Everyone I am Ben. kissel hanging out with his brow ski on this week's Abe Lincoln's top hat. I actually talked about factory farming. And what's going on regarding treatment of dog in in this country. You did an episode about dogs being grounded in thirty four. Thanks giving no. The dogs are routed. His AAC the ask for is a break from all of this horse shit several days I know yes. It's there's genocide at Thanksgiving yes again. The only thing I'm genocide in this fucking Thursday sides mashed potatoes and stuffing. Okay Brussels sprouts. You know what I'll put it this way. I am not liberating the Brussel sprout mill. That's going on in Jake kitchen this week unfortunately yeah. Maybe that doesn't make me a fucking savior but I can't be a savior savior every day at. Gd Week all right. Thanks giving the one day a year. You're allowed to be ignorant your ignorant and and that's okay. No I mean I say I invite vite every native American ICU to dinner. I'm sure that just doesn't horrify them. No way you could tell us. GotTa can you even say that. It's because they're wearing feathers but nowadays because of Coachella Culture Rush L. A. Culture has spread the indigenous person look into deep into white women's lives hipster. Cultural appropriation is a very real thing and I must also notice. There's a big thing in New York with the hipster clothing serious specifically. It's a New York orkla where they'd like to dress like a nineteen twenties painter or workman their fantasizing people who have to work for a living. Yes Louis I would say that about the overall. Look doc you are fetish. Somebody who's jobs. I believe farmers where overall so they could detect. Corn is ripe is by rubber deck on it. Yeah I don't know I don't ask Marcus. I'm certain no I really don't know but I would assume there's something like that but I agree with you. Stop dressing like you're in nineteen twenty painter because because we all know you're a two thousand nineteen out of work unemployed person who is siphoning money from their parents come on technically not. I mean not out of money. Whoever all right because those workman's clothes quite a bit of money? It takes a lot of money to dress like you paint houses for a living in New York City. I mean I guess they may do make it money people paint houses they do. There's nothing wrong with being a house painter. I was a house painter in college. I lasted one full summer. Turns out not very good at painting and I don't like heights. Yes so that was that was quite Kyrie me put on the hat then man. It's like I'm not going to be with you on Thanksgiving giving and I feel like I am but I always your resume for painting houses. Did you just pay one of your legs. It's a little driveway well. You don't don't pay driveways but speaking food Henry did you. See what's going on with Papa in the House Papa John Papa. John is wet wet and struggling. He is losing it. He is soak. I guarantee you. He is hoarding weapons. He is close to a mass shooting when he said words. So we're referring to papa. John himself what is his real name. Papa John Schneider. Yeah John Schneider Schneider Schneider yes he did a what he called. It's a sort of like an exclusive personal revealing interview for what I believe is W D R B. The News in which he said a lot of stuff. That's pretty puzzling. And the reason why we're covering this on side stories is because we kids'll and I. We're both pretty certain. Papa John is about to fuck in CH- take to the streets. Yes this is. This is pre papa. John Crime this is pre papa. John Crime because he is pissed off and the funny thing is you won't be able to obviously see it because this audio we're GonNa play twenty five second clip here but he is no longer the CEO of Papa. John's and the reason why that is but he's still dresses like he is. He still wears the red shirt and the Khakis because he won't let go you know He. He was fired wired go from his own company for saying a racial slur on a recorded conference. Call a conference call people. He was role playing. That's what he said. He was role. But I don't want to talk about the nature of character on this show. I don't want to talk about in in reference to Papa because I resent his role playing stance because some of us and his brow ski have role played in the past. Let's get into this conversation that he had and and again this is why he is on the brow. Ski Kissel Detective Radar Crime Watch Crime Watch pre cry much. Let's listen I've hit over forty pizzas in in life thirty days. Livy currently in Mark Shapiro should be in jail. He has no pizza experience. He's ever been in the pizza category. I would just say a stay tune there. We'll come straight. Why not set the record straight now I mean what is it about the record record? That's what does that even mean. This clip comes from a twitter account at Bubba prog On the Internet can't speak to elsie posts. But this is where this clip was lifted from number one breaking this doubt. We've covered every single serial killer every major serial killer. Now we're onto people like Clark. He is eating forty pizzas in thirty days for this gearing up for Berserk mode when he is doing wing. Think about how scary this is right. Your boss is fired. This is like you're at any job. Let's say you work for. I don't know CITCO aren't what Citgo go the gas station. I always wanted to do that. You work for CITCO The gas station. Your boss says the N.. Word everybody at work is fired. Eddie now is arriving at the gas station. Forty Times within thirty for thirty thirty days to test the taste of the gasoline to see. It's Br I don't know if that's the exact analogy but it's the boss. Keep showing up in like could help notice that All Your Jerky is completely an organized. The poor could put up our chicken and he keeps coming because he says he's doing quality. Control on Papa. John's since the helm was taken taken from so it reminds me a little bit of the First Rambo movie. We're yes he left Vietnam Vietnam did not leave him. And Papa is just he is not gotten the net. He's like the girl from from Wayne's world where it's like. We broke up three months ago to you. Just have to stop eating beating. All of our food will keep showed up number one. Can you imagine the delivery driver because at this point I imagined same root. You're seeing seeing him quite often. Oh Yeah No. It's Papa John's because he's got a shirt on that says Papa John You know him. Definitely you have to deliver the pizza to to Papa. John Who answers the door soaking wet. I don't know why so can win in this interview. He is literally he looks like he just did. The Ice Bucket Challenge Alex. Yes he is sucked. But it's not so. Thank you so much for delivering Russo. told me give me that. Look broader in there for Ya uh-huh. Yeah it's always in their papa. Can I correct you guys. Actually he's not wearing a shirt that says papa. John's it says Jeff Baseball so he is not the company anymore but he is still wearing a company colors because he bleeds. Well read like all of his new name. Joe Baseball that might be what he the order's under is Jeff Baseball named like. There's no way on catch me now to chiefs pizzas for John. Schneider are actually the name. Is Jeff Baseball. Jeff as I'm an anonymous citizen living in this pizza shape your Yeah I mean I obviously couldn't tell. This is the Papa. John's compound which is a giant J. Jay all pizza colored partier than some of the other goal of bores. There's certain Mara were. You must learn colonel good terms on kitten pop so close to be in prayer keenum linked pizzas with all my favorite races. The truth is my favorite. I'm trying to reverse it. Come on Papa John Henry says he is wet and he is weapons. Also don't I think he's he's covered in a Sheen Vassil Lean Sheen that he is wearing and now his mask his face looks like he's wearing a mask because he had so much plastic surgery and then the fact kind of grows around it. It is really astonishing. There's people are leaving stuff on the floor there. Do you know what I mean. They're leaving Monte on the table when I get that garlic butter I know it's recuperating factors has towards the human skin which swire who is lower myself so I'm supllies delectable to passersby and I get that moisture illness to my skin the only knows healthy. I mean you know he does look like an Italian Italian ten. He's got he does look. He's covered in garlic butter. And I WANNA lick that sweet fraser his but bed so he goes out. He's eating forty pizza as soon thirty. Today's berserk mode getting calories during his cheesiness proteins and sort on a treadmill eating pizza like the dirt her the dirt and every day with Rick. Rick Skull have you think at some point that he probably will have a piece of pizza that actually does he's here. It is quality marker and he freaks out like smashing the mirrors and his home sucrets. Close should be impeached. Detail reported Pizza Guantanamo Bay Inge. Things side of themselves like I did and Training School apps absolutely that that is his mindset right now a day of reckoning this comedy a day of reckoning is coming I just went when are you. Have you ever said that. Like a day of reckoning. Reckoning is coming is the primary ser- to every single mass atrocity. That has ever happened in the world. I'M NOT GONNA say I haven't said it like real drunk alone in a hotel by myself before I think I have said it looking out onto some city. Just Dave reckoning is coming for each one of you but I do that just to make myself feel better I ever say to a reporter no especially once the reporter does know that you are in distress. You are angry you were the former. CEO You did start this entire company. You Are Papa John so I understand for him. He's just like no without me. There is no Papa Johns. I think he's it's going to go. It's not going to be mass shooting. It's going to be mass bombing of Papa. John's going to be some weather underground stuff. It's GonNa get crazy and everyone. What is GonNa him he is like a super villain? He's just one of those guys seems to be. I think especially. If you're in this area like imagine he shows up everywhere it's like the manager is from one papa. John's is at the grocery store and he just happens to see. There's Papa John Full Papa. John's fucking chef's hat at the various vegetables. If you like doing quality control virtual trying to see you for up par Praca Papa John Usage. It's been like Sir. Please leave me alone. No we're usually and look so comfortable sometimes WANNA crawl earned. I WANNA sleep with you. Please just give me your garlic butter on you. ooh I mean they always do say true. UH-HUH CEO's technically. But we're not papa. John Right I think to get to that level of pizzas success. You have to be a sociopath I know. No now. You've just taken away. The think sit alleviated his sociopathic. I think he's on the loose. I only person that I can really point towards. WHO's another other pizza? Magnate is Herman Cain Herman. CAIN is the The last man of his stature to make I guess he was vaguely almost president. That's pizza money. You know what I mean. He's another pizza Lord so imagine he's still in charge of Godfather's pizza. That's still Herman. Cain I think that Herman Cain no Kinda understand knows at Papa. John's number one papa. John is bringing shame on the pizza. Industry has all unfortunately he is doing. He's doing in bad shit and he further embarrassing himself and I wouldn't. I wouldn't be surprised to see Herman. CAIN fucking suicide Papa. John Really really suicide them. You think so I could see either Papa John Dramatic terrorist affront on every single Papa Johns that exists or Herman Cain is going to Epstein him inside of his own home. But he'll do real embarrassing like they found him with the fuck in vacuum into his asshole to get some kind of weird suck and thing and it pulled all his guts and that that could happen. And it is possible the Papa Killed Epstein. We don't know we don't know what upstate student. We don't know what I would give to find that out to be true. I quit everything I could ever become. I would become a travelling troubadour. Just singing folks because that would just make I mean like that's just the best thing that ever lived never existed. What even the purpose? I'll just sing the story from from town to town so that everyone knows what did how how much it inspired me. All you need is a soapbox a story of Papa. John's killing Jeffrey Epstein. You heard it here your phone. I folks on side stories if that does turn out to be the case but if you do get a chance. Herman Cain listen to him on youtube singing. Imagine there's no pizza. It's the it's the greatest song of all time. Nope it's not easy if you try honestly every time I do a crime or salt asleep and I saw Herman Cain hurricane did imagine there's no pizza and yes. It was incredible I saw I saw them over at What was I doing Fox News and I went up to him and I was like that song makes me smile? And he looked at me very confused like I was making fun of him and Kinda was but I also was very authentic. Because when I I'm very sad I play imagine there's no pizza and he does a great job so if you're sad this Thanksgiving 'cause you don't like your family listened to that and makes you listened to the puppy mill episode of the. We can stop fucking Thanksgiving all right. Let's have just has a producer J.. I'm even think about it because I don't believe in celebrating all of these so-called holidays this is getting sadder and sadder. I'm GonNa try to make thank you feel better by. I will admit so. There was a little brief before we get into another story. Ben Kissel for brief moment on last podcasts and left now that he hasn't been right before. Oh for sure. Sure but I'm going to go ahead and say officially I apologize. Wow I apologize to you you while Ben Kissel for yelling at you and saying that you are incorrect about saying are. I don't think you're ready for this. Jelly was not in fact from Jaylo. Oh but from beyond saying that's correct you are correct. Wow this is amazing when I thought was happening was I thought that you said that beyond say was what J.. Lo meant which is why I was so concerned for your mental wellbeing and wondering if you had had ingested quite a bit of carbon ridden dioxide from whatever choke in yourself while you're masturbating carbon bad you want carbon monoxide. That's the bad one I don't know but anyway so I thank you Henry. I appreciate I accept your apology. And and now we can see if we can get to the other three thousand reasons to apologize. We we can do that over the years. Never okay great now. I actually thought that was uncomfortable. I was accidentally correct about pop culture from nineteen ninety ninety seven which is something. I shouldn't even know it does not matter if I know this information freedom. Jaylo a Rod are beautiful couple and my friends served a rod at a bar recently and she said he was very quiet. Very nice all right. So what's doing. What inspiring story if you haven't been granted right? What do you WanNa talk about? First Year Henry other than Papa. John's potentially be the serial killer. We have a couple of fucked up stories that popped up in the news. One was this story that I'll just say this is again. You know happy Thanksgiving. I hope you guys are around with your family and your friends. And you're ready you're ready to share some the things that you learn from this week like the story came from berks regional news w FM Zee TV about a man who killed a couple with the hammer and you set himself on fire he also kill all the dogs and the cats in the house. This is really brutal stuff so it was comes through side yeah it was a murder suicide. It's from reading. Pennsylvania Burke County couple all died inside their home after being hit multiple times with a hammer by third person who then died after setting himself on fire inside a nearby garage. According to Pennsylvania State police who who revealed new details on the case during a news conference streamed live Joanne deluca sixty three and I reread sixty. Were found dead late Saturday afternoon inside their home at nine. Three one Chestnut Street and union township. If you WANNA go look at it and go see what it looks like I suppose. So but so one of the victims was found dead on the floor and the other other one was found in the recliner and against his where you'll be subject to the head but that one in the recliner that reminds me of Rob Zombie Halloween. Do your baby be my homies. Duct tape is very abusive father and cuts his throat. I was trying to see Halloween to watch the Rob Zombie remake a Halloween because again Kissel so and I are essentially Rob Zombie apologists and we love him. I would say I love him but I couldn't find all the way to anywhere. This is taken away from the story. So what they just said was. The man didn't didn't even die from the flames. She he covered self in some form of flammable substance and it looks like he died of smoke inhalation. Wh Why why did he do this. No one seems to really know. Also I think it was one of those this is probably where the beginning of one of those snickers commercials He was angry. Ah Yeah it could be turns out the whole time. He was Joe Patchy according to the police. They say one of our veteran investigators said it was the worst crime scene. He's ever seen inside the house. This according to Lieutenant Scott Brennan he said the dogs. This is again because two dogs and two cats were killed. He's the dogs. Had their throats slit and the cats were stomped. Police said they had no record of being Had No record of having been dispatched to the House for problems in the past so it just like this. This is big careful with your friends and your family. This weekend on Thanksgiving you never know when an aunt or an uncle it's GonNa snap and all of a sudden they got a they got a hammer but if someone's not not holding the nail standing by a piece of wood that hammer is going into your head big thing is is that because of the holiday instead of immediately shooting shooting them in the head in case of the entire families armed at dinner. I'd say give them a shot and dress them to the ground and get the hammer away from him and then ask him. Hey Hey what are you thankful for rugged sometimes when I am incredibly upset it's really really important to remember. What are you grateful for? I'm grateful for that. You Pin Penny of the ground and took this hammer from me. Because I was GonNa do something I was going to regret number one. I'm also thankful for. I love Barstool Sports. Does your uncle rising. Just just remember what you're thankful for this year and then maybe if you really feel in it like for feeling the urge like you had a dream that you're playing whack-a-mole with your entire family early within with a hammer just lock up the hammers or take a couple of hands and throw him in a Lake Hammer. Yeah it seems like they don't have the identity of the perpetrator fully figured out yet. But it seems like it's most likely deluca adult son. Who lived with the couple? You'll also get some parents are not victim blaming whatsoever but at some point parents can get your kids out. You GotTa kick your kids out of the House. It'd be so scary like because we've talked about this in the past like people that are like that the Im Adam's mother would all that came out of an the the idea of like bure with your a child who you love and you're desperately trying to take care of you are elderly and you're living with this person who maybe I eventually and you don't understand understand. Maybe just why yet. But you're becoming afraid of your son. Roddy do about that Shit. When he's just going on there with a cantaloupes and salaries Kale? It looks like he's doing that in the kitchen. What do you what do you do about you? GotTa Call Up John and Ken my son be CEO again. Yeah because having him around the House is scary as hell. Oh He's so scary. Like this is the type of people a Papa. John it's GonNa fucking pulled together like a like the penguins army it really realize these are the type of people that Papa. John is going to single out where it's remember terms of SUV. So you shave you from those angry feelings late night a late night out late night just thinking about how you WanNa kill everybody with a hammer. Yes Papa yes comedy join. Orange Armageddon Komen join the tidal waves. Good Hawash all over this world. I could see the pop occult springing up any any time. Now that's the day of reckoning is coming that was straight up Joaquin Phoenix in joker. That was a sentence that every super villain has at some point in society. Yeah Oh well speaking of disgusting things to talk about with your family we also have a situation going on in Toronto Antonio Right now which we are going to actually be in very very soon and you know what this story is getting so excited to be there my God so police are investigating three separate incidents where a man dumped buckets of liquefied fecal matter on just random people This is like one of the most disgusting things I have seen in a long time. They are diarrhea attacks ax. They have taken place in the last week. Maybe this man has been eating too much papa. John I don't know but he dumped a bucket of liquefied fecal matter on three people and then he just sprinted away I guess all empty from the fact that his dookie is no longer inside of his body. The man is described as a black male in his thirties thirties. He has a medium build wearing a yellow heart a blue shirt and gloves. He reportedly left behind his orange home. Depot Bucket wore gloves loves. He's wearing gloves. Because he's holding feces he does understand it's disgusting. That's incredible. He's he's wearing glove. That shows premeditation. He News GonNa get it over. His hands is disgusted. So this is fucking this is a thought virus gone wild because they thought virus out there be concerned thanksgiving. There's so many opportunities to get an entire family with the bucket. Shit man if you've got so horny rate like let's say you were made Horny by this by this idea right and the splashing all whole family. Your with your liquid. Quit Shush Right. Can you imagine. See it Nanna there and pop who there and fuck and but all the new kids. Little Gregory agree. Just turn a nice sweaters on. You've been doing nothing. But drink. And Coup Ladas and eaten Indian food. Just uh-huh would you random diarrhea casing this family and you know. They've had a lot of changes. This year. Maria got married. They got a kid on the way. A Nice Scott got a fucking. He got a promotion at work. Oh no cousin Benjamin gotta deal with spotify. He's doing all these people they're ripe. They're ripe for catastrophe right. And just so I gotta make you so hard to just roll up on that fan. They think where to Papa. John's uniform if if you want to delivery man and then just getting everybody in one go. Oh My look a dookie gallagher concert. That's not good on November. Twenty second this dude. He dumped a bucket of feces over the head of a man who was sitting inside the Roberts Library at the University of Toronto. Then unloaded feces on a woman. They're going after readers so I think we're safe. People did not know what was in the bucket and tell the odor set in and then this is a quote no odors no. This is a quote from an eyewitness. He says the smell hit like two minutes later and it was a real foul. Ah Smell he goes on to say. It's something like if you were working at a construction site. You know one of those mobile bathrooms and you just went in there. Like a very concentrated feces. Like smell no no. I almost saying again. I'm playing with no victim blaming here. You don't think that they should have smelled a common. I hear really bookings you're in a library. You are in a library your knee deep in Book. Five of Dune. You're talking about your controversial alien ideas you. You're so focused on this book next thing you know you gotTa Santa Claus. But he ain't bring him gifts. It's bringing bursting first thing you wonder as being like you sit there and smell like somebody is Ford it. There's no way that fumes. We're not not coming off this bucket of dookie. I don't know the the win. This says do poured everything out of what looked to be a twenty leader bucket. That is like a lot. That is how person still alive is crap twenty leaders. Aren't you dead if I was the mayor of Toronto Paranoid Up Security Oh totally I. I think there should be more police presence on the streets of Toronto. Sure and then maybe we're looking at or is this a backdoor way to create martial law. A little bit different but we talked about this on top just re they just renewed the Patriot Act. Yes this is where it starts. This is this is where it starts. It's more feces tax streets because that's a good subtle way of getting people scared and wanting the police because who is not would not be offended about getting and sprayed with a whole bucket of some homeless persons like which it or. Maybe he's got a job. He's got a home. He definitely hates libraries. That's all I know because then the other attack was two days later. He's stroke at York University Scott Library around five PM. He entered the library with a bucket. Import Liquefied Feces and unsuspecting man's table before he ran away at some point. Don't they have a security guard like at Sam's Club security guards. Let me see. Let me make sure you got everything you not stealing stuff at some point. Isn't there a security guard at these libraries. There's been like what's in the bucket. They're just chicken library cards. They're not fucking packing strapped with Shit. And if you're the nine year old woman that's chicken library cards the thing you really GonNa Secret Service yourself between your you got like maybe got a knitting class to go to. I ain't got time to get fucking liquid shit all over this nice Christmas sweater. I got that I'm trying to impress my knitting group with you. GotTa take the bullet. You gotTa take the Poo Poo bullet in this case. Your security your frontlines. You're the last London defense to protect the great people of the library trying to read from like Deng legit. I'd rather get shot or knifed. I would I would be more likely to jump in front of a person with a gun or a knife than somebody with a bucket of liquid. Shit time thing. Think about this because you just go to the hospital La Times. If you can't like you hopefully will not die but if you get stabbed a couple of times as you can stop the I mean. It's it's awful you get stitched up you get some of that shit in your mouth. Weaponized this shit with yet either because you could have hepatitis a secret. I wouldn't even ask them. Yeah they'd have something in there because that's a big thing you're saying with eating but craze is a more hepatitis going around. I've heard this myth that they're spreading around so this is according to the Toronto Place. I don't know I feel like bullets. Really hurt and you can travel. That's tough to say. I don't know but Toronto Police spokesman Victor Kwan said the suspect affect didn't say anything during the attacks and this is a quote he said it was a dump in run quantum. The victims are obviously disgusted. He also said the police can't provide advice on how to protect oneself from being victim of poop related incident so guy we're saying literally like you know what society this in this this case you're on your you gotta handle this. I say as chief of Police Ed Terrano. I think it's really apart for everybody to get some tactical umbrellas. Okay that's how really main way if you really want to figure out a way Da Ted and yourself. I'd get yourself raincoat dude. It is crazy the cops. It's literally the COP continues. There's absolutely nothing we could ever say to someone who is trying to go about their everyday business to prevent something like this from the happening. The cops literally. This is so Canadian. This is so Canadian in America it would be like well we gotta we gotta do we gotTA poop force. We've got officers on this dookie drones and Toronto. They're just like aw that is above our pay grade. Do you remember when that entire town was fucking gripped with fear by the two seventeen year olds I do. I do the same thing but failing but at least the teen euros the cops are like Oh we can do something about this but they are just straight straight up like no game over. He found a way to destroy all of our communities by poop. I'm just GonNa say this as our Canadian listeners. You guys need to go out there and defend yourselves against these poopie bandits. I know that the police the police have let you down. So they've got to do start art C. Guy Walking with the bucket down the street. You had to give them a hard time especially if these wearing gloves absolutely it or not. And he doesn't look like a construction worker if he doesn't look if he doesn't have a tool belt on with it if he's just free will and especially goes here comes the duke like if he's screaming even that you got to get this guy the guy to be hero. What have you got to be hero and we need A? Let's roll moment from a brave citizen of Tirana. No no we united flight ninety three moment this is according to police chief Mark Saunders. He said they're serious offenses. He says if you can identify the person please call us but then he says until then. We suggest avoiding campus libraries. That's it's just like there's been three to defend their response. I just don't go to the libraries. Libraries are now forbidden you know. What's a real graded to this is to put some of those what's that drug that you could take. It makes you not should anymore heroin no hair. It's got stuff there's like anti diarrhea medication. Okay yeah I mean yeah I mean. The whole bread is a loaf of bread. No you've got a modem ammonia ammonia think. I think this is a really good time for the the if if the Very pharmaceutical companies. WanNa step up and show that maybe maybe we should trust them again. Dan weaponized them odium in Canada. Like an ammonium spray like something put it in the water so is is this like glass where we have a man who can obviously should on command and we need to find a man who has not shot and like five years take off. I don't know that can work that antithesis assists and then we'll see yes. This is the beginning. This is the beginning of a new unbreakable. All right this is. I don't know what the Hell is going to happen in Toronto. I can't wait to Gal K now. We'll buy those tickets to our Toronto show might be sold out much certain. I think I think I might be sold out and don't go to the library beforehand because you're going to come to our show covered it into ghee. What if this is Amazon? You think this is an Amazon inspired crime. This is another one may be Amazon's doing the crime to get Marshall Official Law although to be fair with Canadian destroy nine eleven happened in Kennedy. Well we just won't have buildings anymore like they wanted like the the. US is like Patriot. Act surveilled we're GONNA screw the constitution. And then cain another is like no. You're not gonNA WANNA have a building. Yeah I'm sorry. These buildings anything above seven feet. It's really really too vulnerable to be used by terrorists. So we're going back to underground or we're living in huts saw so everybody sleeper now lying on the ground I love it. I have this one another fucked up story. That came out again. Happy Thanksgiving missing. Pregnant Mansfield woman found dead and apparent homicide. This is by W. H. I. O. Television in the breaking news half in Dayton Ohio. The body of a missing Mansfield woman was found Monday in an abandoned home on West Stuart Street. A few days after her boyfriend was found. Shot the death in a different house on the same block so this is very mysterious. There's obviously some details. Come out about the story. The body was that of a twenty year old Kylie Hayden Dayton police lieutenant lieutenant. Jason said Jason Hall said and Hayden's death is being investigated as a homicide. We saw the other one could say. The boyfriend was found missing earlier in the month. Along with the girlfriend killed the boyfriend. No clue she was pregnant. No it seems like right now. A person of interest in the case thirty year old Larry Wayne Rogers was arrested early Saturday morning on unrelated gun charges and is being held in Montgomery County jail. Oh so we don't know anything about the details of this. It's just a highly mysterious race to have two different bodies separating two different abandoned homes that is crazy so we'll have to do a follow up on that after the Thanksgiving holiday and figure out. If this guy was the one that it did it I suppose yeah I guess so. Something Fun for after Thanksgiving Yup for after Thanksgiving. Don't after Thanksgiving absolutely absolutely so this next story. I'm not going to include your personal information in this because it's going to be brutal for you. So what I am just going to do is say if you know anything being email us. I lost my sweet Cockatiel Vega on eleven sixteen in a completely heartbroken in desperately trying to locate her. Would it be possible for you to ask people to keep an eye out for her on the next side stories she's lost somewhere in Brookhaven Georgia. She is a Pied Cockatiel with a yellow head orange mostly grey and white eight body. She's a little grey stripe above horizon. I am a dark stripe on her beak. She's offering a five hundred dollar cash reward for her return. So if you have have any any information on this email side stories l. p. o.. T. L. at gmail.com. Please I know that there will be bits sent sent us. But if you really do have information on this loss parrot I could help she. Did this year go. Leading on her listing on her on nine one one parrot JEROD ALERT DOT com. I didn't know that existed but go watch. Ace Ventura learn from the master and then go find this Cockatiel till yeah look at guys penises. The urinal it's Vega V. as in Vagina E. G.. Greg Greg. In a letter a Vega. You didn't do anything with the. I don't know why I don't ever do that. interesting well. Let's just talk briefly not about real animals but about the police state that we live in cops have in Massachusetts cops now have from Boston dynamics the creators at the end of the world. They have a dog like robot calling it spot but it's not spot. It's not a real dog. It's a demon creature and they're using this robot and it is terrifying fine. It's raising questions from silver. Liberty advocates. The state's bomb squad had spot on loan from the Waldman based Boston dynamex for three months starting August until November and the documents do not reveal a lot of details about the dogs exact use. But he's saying documents you've seen the documents they said it's a mobile remote observation device this to my troopers with images of suspicious devices or potentially hazardous situations. This is according to state policeman spokesperson. David Prokopenko he says robot. Technology is a valuable tool for law enforcement because of its ability to provide situational awareness of Potentially Dangerous Environments Aka. The war against the machines has begun as I have been saying for a long time and Henry when you're put in cuffs when you're getting embarked up by one of these fake robot dogs very real robot dogs. I think you're GonNa Change Your tune about your love of these robot overlords. You know it's really difficult right. Because as a citizen citizen of the United as a citizen of the United States and as a person I am concerned about law enforcement using robots but as a sci-fi nerd I I look at this and I get so raging hard. I get so my knee. My knees start jumping because it is snow crash that is comes from. Its No- not fun in real Liz. So the is so much fun idea. Wise it's so it's so cool idealize because it's starting to happen. All the books I was was reading about for real and I. It makes me so excited that I bet my problem. I'm one of those that I'm a part of the problem but if I am I'm half Cyborg. I will begin to truly understand where they come from on their end as well. You're half site pork. You're never going to be half CYBORG. Never but Henry. That's like all the people be like I. I think we gotTA protect the billionaires. You never know when I'm going to be a billionaire you're never going to be half Cyborg. That's going to be like. Jeff bezos. is they're going to do it Elon. Musk is already going to do WHOA. I'm comfortable with the distance of thinking. Both sides of understanding in one way is very bad for humanity but but also on the other side it's fucking rock and roll tubular fucking. Give me that. Give me that Shit WanNa see that funk in dog dance around because it's a coup last cyberdog. Now be fucking all about it being in my home my pet you wait you wait until it sexually assaults Wendy. The goal all is is to get the dog if you can get one on your own and retrofit it so that you have the same tools against the government. I think that's important if we want to talk straight up robot Oh bought control. That's where we're going to do a whole new world of debate where it's like. What if it gets too? What if we private citizens could also have access to some of these these robots and there is more private companies will allow us at home to purchase a guard dog robot that we can use to defend against the police states robots? Well I don't know if we can afford that at this point and I don't know they're gonNa let us have them we'll see. I'm certain that there will be private companies that we'll see the need for this and begin to create affordable attack robots. That you can use in your home much like you'd use a gun right. Is that that so far off. No I don't think that is that that far off. This robot has a three hundred and six degree low light camera and in arm. I don't remember dogs. have it in an arm like that. Like a used open doors and stuff but what are building your own dog. Yeah and this is according to this. According to the company they say it. This dog is not intended to physically harm or intimidate people. It's very existence is indeed need intimidating and then they said Port of our early evolution process with customers is making sure we're on the same page for the usage of the robot so upfront we're very very clear with our customers that we don't want the row up in used in a way that can physically harm someone because e e means do human baso edit. They set it. All we do is create things that aren't people that is like inner genetic code. I'm just saying it should be equal. If they can have them. We should also be able to have them as people so part of it is get on it. If you're part of a private robotics company explicit. Tell US inside. Stories L. P. OT eligibilty com. How you plan to go about making these tack Doc? Robots also acquired by the human population. We got to be able to get out there and use these robots against them so for me as long as I also have an army of robot dogs again rule the robot dog those robot dog Judah escalating it yet escalating it. Because it's going one way on the other side died so we have to compete on the other side. We gotta do it. GotTa give these dogs to help attack the other robot dogs mutual assured dog destruction. It ain't right but this will not be the first time. The dog has actually already killed someone member the sniper in now of course granted. This person was going crazy but in two thousand and sixteen this dude who killed the five cops they used a robot bought armed with explosives to explode them. So it's already happening and let's look no further than that self driving car. who also radio and this fucking sweet? It's not good. It's not good. I know it's not but it's also great. It's not good but it's also fun as hell. You have such a strange idea of what's fun I. I just just why the areas where I am more. I am more this conspiracy. This is just happening. They're coming for our rights. There are noble. We we have to make sure we can acquire these robots but they're cyber truck. I the Elon. Musk cyber truck. which for some reason it looks like he did not no not a good role out and it was not a good? No you get to drive inside of a car from original playstation a doc in twisted metal. I don't know dude but you can make it twisted metal. You make every day to scare people on the road with cyber truck. But you're not John Ritter in the movie. Stay tuned tuned get sucked into the reality. It's a waking nightmare it's already happening. It's or sliding in. I know you already have happened. We how do we stop it. I think the Cyber Geno well we need to do. Support the buckets full of Duke. And this is what's happening. This is why it's starting to happen. It's starting to come from the ground up. You know what it is I want want. I love the fun. Parts of the far future dystopia and don't like the not fun parts. There are fun parts all of the fun cars all the fun tack Jack. That's fun that's the best part about hard Scifi three also total recall also hit on boobs. Is that possible. I don't know but maybe Oh sure sure absolutely all right all right. Let's do hero. Aw this year of the week. She's actually this isn't so much injustice. She really is a bad ass. You made a good choice. This is actually like a choice. She is a hero yes she is. He's eighty two year old. She works out constantly. She's very very buff. A man made a horrible decision by breaking into her apartment. She is world natural. Powerlifting Federation's lifter of the year in two thousand fourteen again eighty two years old. She messed up this dude so so she was just hanging out. She was getting ready for bed on a Thursday night with a man less than half her age rang the doorbell. The Dude said he had been shot so she grabbed her phone to downland nine. One one Murphy told W. H. E. C.. I'm giving them my address and guess what happens. Boom he breaks into my house and he's in the living room so she so she reached took a TV tray and started wailing on his behind the ended. The intruder grabbed a table and fell backwards and Murphy dumped a bottle of shampoo and his face Murphy had forgotten about the police dispatcher on the other end of the line but authorities arrived shortly after and took the man into the hospital Murphy. ESPN last year that her three day a week. Workout Routine Tina Rochester's. Ymca included bench pressing Daedalus and strict curls and so she just beat the hell out of this guy and I think she is the hero of the week she she really wants and she took a picture with all the cops because they're all like this lady was a fucking bad ass. You beat the shit out of the studio governor. Forgive Morale's which is a pretty great we'll murphy you are this week's hero of the week eighty two years old keep at it keep on crushing And I'm very proud. I just love if this guy is going to end up going to jail. So how'd you get college. The home invasion then it got my ass kicked by ninety two year old woman. She just fucking ripped it up. I love her. I Love Lover All right. Willie Murphy you are this week's hero of the week we go. I got some listener. Letters is comes from be as as I was listening to episode sexual liaisons with the Alien I was immediately taken aback about the hair wrapped around the penis. I was surprised to hear this because I am a nurse and had a patient who came in with the same thing. He was admitted to the hospital for cardiac reasons. This patient had a hair tied in a not just under the head of his penis. The hair had caused an ulcer to form all the way around his penis and caused a hole underneath deep enough to see into his your e through which we found out by I placing a foley. Catheter could see the catheter. Through the whole no one could understand how this happened now. I wonder was aliens. The reality is that this man was a registered sex offender in many mental illnesses and we found many more hairs tied during the day. So it's safe to say. He was signed them himself. A Oh God okay very not. It's not always aliens that we're learning today not always but sometimes it's something worse than that here we go. This is a really interesting story. My haunted house killed my father. Sorry to start this off. I just like to say quick. Hail Jeff as my dad was the dopamine motherfucker occur which is very nice to heal yourself. Jeff Okay so the past two years or so. There's been insane paranormal activity. In hindsight all the activities seemed focus around my dad one night night. A bottle of barbecue sauce was flung from the counter in the kitchen accepted flew in such a way that it left the perfect dollop of sauce in a dish regarding for before going across the room and all over the floor. My Dad was the only one in the kitchen. He got scratched on multiple occasions. A beer can flew six feet into the air and flew across the room. The and my mother were both present. He saw a face on a statuette. We had morph and move and look at him and you know. Let's fucking haunted mansion. My father other was not a stone or nor was he type to have vivid hallucinations. The final examples list here are the most recent and strange. Vultures have been circling around our house. Quite a bit somehow somehow even gotten into a trash unusual for vultures and less than a week ago a light fixture in our laundry room fell and hit him in the head and the final act was his death. My father didn't have have any heart conditions. He wasn't in the best shape by any means but he was pretty healthy and sure frigging back. Freak accidents happen but my father specifically said he felt something was targeting targeting him and something in this house killed him he was going up the stairs and he just fell he wasn't drunk and the EMT's believe it was a heart attack. I'm sure to some. It's not that apparent but my house was evil and it killed my father. There are forces in this world. We cannot see your understand but they are real and some of them are pure evil. Be saved and your loved ones close with. I agree careful at Thanksgiving we got we got poop. Monsters out there. We got demon spirits out there. Robots dog robots. Oh my God now. This is came from a listener. Who saw this story on? Read it and then contacted the Reddit user to see if we could read it on the show I'm going to read on the show. And he said it'd be okay with the US so this came from A. Ask reddit thread about some of the old mysteries of the Internet. Put some similar government conspiracy. Sounding stuff happened to me years ago I started a VPN business circa two thousand nine right around the time of the Arab uprising and before for the VPN. Business Market was as popular as it is now. Most providers were deploying. PPTP in open VPN. But I deployed S. T. P. which works over port four four three I uses regular. https work with the wind built in windows. VPN client you understand castle right. I understood every single thing. You just said Yeah. Needless to say in the span of about three months citing massive sign ups from China the Middle East North African countries. I never made an effort to hide my identity and random business out of my house one day the proverbial men in black showed up black. Black suits sunglasses black suburbans and so on only they have the olive covered the olive colored skin of someone who is of Middle Eastern north African descent. They asked for me by my name asked if Iran Xyz service identified themselves as diplomatic representatives from an embassy politely. Asked me if they could come in and ask me some questions. I was young men so I said sure come on in. While the meeting didn't last very long they started asking me if I understood what was happening with the Arab spring they referenced Egypt specifically and asked if I would block users from certain countries being able to connect to my service if they requested When I said no not without a quarter they became agitated and then ask who else was involved in helping me with the business event? Starting my mom my sisters my daughter who did live with me and several of my close friends. It was the scariest moment of my life and I was sitting there alternating between panic and disbelief. I believe I told them that. None of these people involved and they said okay. Well why don't you think about what the best thing for you to do. Is and we'll be back in touch. I spoke to some friends in the security world and all of them said to just shut it down. If they didn't do something criminal they probably just sue me into bankruptcy so after starting a VPN BIZ and three months after having hundreds of customers. I refund it all my customers for any anew services and shut my doors literally overnight I never heard from them nor got a visit from the Middle Eastern men in black ever again very interesting very scary all right very very interesting man. That's it that's what I got. Also I want to say thank you to all the people the sentence information about dissociate. 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The Ballad of Coy and Vance

The Industry

27:50 min | 2 years ago

The Ballad of Coy and Vance

"If you're a fan of television. You've probably heard a story like this a new show debuts and becomes a hit fast forward a couple of years, and the ones unknown stars of that show are now when a contract dispute putting the latest season of your favorite show in jeopardy. It happens all the time. For a recent example, let's take a look at the ABC sitcom modern family that show debuted in two thousand nine two great reviews and a solid nine and a half million viewers after the show's third season, the show is fifteenth in the ratings the highest would ever be an average almost thirteen million viewers. That's when the adult actors on the show all making around sixty five thousand episode head determined that. That was no longer fair. With the fourth season right around the corner they banded together and filed the lawsuit to void their contracts. It was filed cleverly just before a scheduled tabled read, which then had to be canceled negotiations started quickly and just a few days later, the cast came back to the table, happier and much richer. Their salaries had now jumped to around one hundred seventy to one hundred eighty thousand episode with increases every season and percentage of back end profits, not long after the kids on modern family would do the same thing and getting more or less the same result. You can't blame Twentieth Century, Fox. That's the company that makes that show forgiving into their stars demands. What else could they do replace all of their lead actors with look-alikes audiences wouldn't go for that. It would be a rating suicide, but in nineteen eighty two that's exactly what Warner Brothers did when they've found themselves. Locked in a dis-. With the stars of the hit CBS series. The dukes of hazzard. I'm Dan Delgado. And in this episode, we're taking a look at the contract dispute that was so heated that in the end when everyone came back to the table. No one was claiming victory. Welcome to the industry. In case, you're unfamiliar with the series. The dukes of hazzard allow me to quickly fill you in on it. The show took place in fictional, hazzard County, Georgia and centered on cousins, Bo and Luke Duke, they were just a couple of fun Lovin. Good ole boys driving around their nineteen sixty nine dodge charger. A typical episode of the dukes go something like this. The Duke boy would be minding their own business. But somehow catch wind of some nefarious scheme being perpetrated by the greedy businessman slash county. Commissioner who seemed to know who seemed to own everything in town. This boss, hog, the comically mean boss Hogg would hire some out of town thugs to comment, and rob something or other and the Dupuoy's would have to put a stop to it episodes typically end with the dukes beating the thugs or evading the corrupt local cops in giant car. Chase that involved a ridiculous car jump in the yelling of e Hough while said car was jumping in slow motion. If it sounds ridiculous. It's because it was and it was also insanely popular series had debuted as a mid season replacement in nineteen seventy nine eighteen eighty two. It had grown into a bit of a phenomenon. It was a number to show on all of television in the nineteen eighty one eighty two season averaging almost twenty two million viewers week one show. Just in case you're wondering with Dallas the next season was a slight drop to number six. Although it was only one tenth of a point behind the number five show Alice that year, it was after that season the fourth variety reported a somewhat unexpected value of the show the dukes of hazzard had taken in nearly two hundred million dollars in merchandising revenue for Warner Brothers. That's the company that was making the show. This was the highest of any series in television history at the time hundreds of items out there with the Duke boys on them lunch boxes. Bedspreads t shirts, y'all. Ios pinball machines, you name it, and you could find dukes of hazzard version of it. The Taicang toy cars made by Earl toys, which I owned a said, thank you. Mom, outsold the rubik's cube in nineteen Eighty-one. Now, this news came as a big surprise to a couple of people, namely, the guys starring in the show, the two fellows playing bowl and Luke do that would be John Schneider, and Tom, whoa. Pat. Their contract stated that they were entitled to five percent of that revenue. But as of this point, they only received about twenty five thousand dollars style enroll Pat began asking questions about this at when those questions went unanswered. They decided it was time to take action may twenty four th nineteen eighty two. They were supposed to be showing up to start the fifth season of the show. But they were instead busy filing twenty five million dollar lawsuit against Warner Brothers. The even the same lawyer that chip star Eric Estrada had for his contract dispute. Now Astrada was unhappy over syndication points and Bruce Jenner was brought into replace him. That took all of seven episodes before Astrada was back on set with a happy pay raise. Water brothers would respond by counter-suing. We'll Patty Schneider for one hundred and seventeen million dollars claiming that the duo had liable the suit in their press release, and we're in breach of contract by not showing up to work now and wolf pack for their part were also unhappy with the scripts and thought that this walkout would help change that as well, Catherine Bach. Played cousin daisy do wanted to join in on the strike, but it's not our will talked her into staying, and this proved to be a very good thing. Had Bach left. The show. One brothers would have simply canceled it altogether. Lesser known in. All this is that cast member sorelle booked to play boss Hogg and James best played inept sheriff Rosco p Coltrane also walked off at the same time. However, Warner Brothers may deals with them twenty four hours later. What one or two brothers didn't want was to be pushed around, and they insisted the dollar amount that was actually owed to Snyder and wolf Pat for merchandising was closer to about two hundred and fifty dollars seriously. And that's when Warner Brothers got the idea that replacing Bowen Luke would be easier than paying Schneider and Wolfpack bring on the replacements cousins coy and Vance Duke a couple of more cousins and new characters who came in to look after the Duke farm while Boeing Luke were out trying their luck on the NASCAR circuit season five premiere spent all of twenty five seconds explaining this opening. Ration- lucre Lieven hazard Bill alive long dream of racing. No mass car circuit and the whole families taking them to the airport. Oh boat is good resist. Throw it anymore. Lash Joan just bro time sake. Bob, boys. And that's where this guy enters the story. Laron cherry. I play cousin coy do Viron cherry already had a history with the dukes of hazzard before he was ever cast as the Bo Duke replacement Koi? Now for more on that story. We're gonna have to go back to the show is beginning in nineteen seventy nine when they cast dukes of hazzard seventy nine they came to Georgia. And I was one of the five guys. It was up for dukes of hazzard. John Snyder was not up for it. They didn't he was eighteen. He was too young. They didn't wanna teenager yet. Every negative going against him for an actor Byron Jerry in John Schneider knew each other from showing up at the same. Auditions in Georgia and had become friends in nineteen seventy nine cherry was a steward for Eastern Airlines and ended up losing out on the role because of his work schedule. John Schneider on the. Other hand refuse to be denied. I get a job with Eastern Airlines, and I have to go down to Miami Florida trained for seven weeks. And then the day, I leave one of others casting flying into Atlanta to cast those five guys and now down to four guys because I left town. John Schneider was going nuts because he wouldn't want to four guy. So he ended up smart guy and very talented. He he ended up. I was gone, right? And I'm like call them you going down to Miami. You know down there for seven weeks in audition me. No, I'm gonna get this part. They went. Yeah. You will get it. And so I said, well, what's I didn't think about Johnson? They went little John Schneider. John your buddy, he's on the way to Hollywood. Why is it going there? When I first screen test for dukes. What what are you talking about? So he's like my agent Linden. Well, he crashy audition. He went in with a six pack of beer didn't shave ripped up cowboy boots and went in there. And did this whole whole routine, you know, acting and play pain win his boat do and then he nail you know, you got it and the rest is television history. So in Warner Brothers started looking to cast coin fans, it was John Schneider himself that recommended Byron Sherry for the role. Jerry was still an unknown having barely acted at all here. He picked me up the air for me and my age when I came audition. No me. He's in his Lamborghini driving me Hollywood, take those kind of goes Yuna. Nobody one of. They cannot know that you know, me because they do you probably won't get the part. So you got to, you know, don't mess up. Really? Yeah. He goes he goes, I did recommend you. And but I don't know you and you don't own me. All you need to know. And I kept I kept I kept to that. And they never once said, oh, you buy, you know, Johnson. I would have said no, I don't know him. No. He's Duke, right? But it was it was because John was thinking he absolutely say, you're gonna get this. Just don't don't let them know. You know, me the role was cherries, even a nationwide casting. Call had gone out and literally over twenty two hundred actors tried out for the new roles. Casting Koi seem to be fairly easy casting Vance. The Luke Duke replacement took some time I did show up in the next day. I'm on an airplane. Like Snyder voted and next day. It was on airplane the Hollywood to do a screen test in Valencia California ended up living and with daisy do the real days, you do and never forget that she was charming charming and just treated me with just amazing. She was just so friendly. She's she called me the character names. Couldn't even say Byron. She didn't call me. She called me a Koi. And so ended up getting it. And then they put me in a hotel. You know, they had all these blonde hair blue. I guys, you know, literally hundreds coming flying in and out in and out of LA for three weeks. And then during the Dorka guy, we was up prevents to and then they couldn't put two people together. The coin bench stoop, you know, for for marketing, and we couldn't find a guy to go with me. So they had to. Inga's iron. Do you wanna work with us three weeks later after three weeks of I read with literally hundreds of people and CBS worn by the CVS? And I was I was literally I was frustrated. I wanna go home. I miss my family came out. Underwear a pair of blue jeans, t-shirt and tennis shoes. And that was it. Because I was supposed to be there. One day one day audition fly home. So they quarter me to producers who at all the people you wanna work with who do you want to work with? I say, well, you don't remember that got Chris Chris Mayer Vance he'd be a great band suit. And we're we became great friends to gave me a phone number on the set that day of the day. We did the screen fans they won. And I gave him my phone number. And the we we, you know, we're heavily into working out stuff, you know, and in karate and martial arts and all that. And he he's he's a real book, really, great, shape and all that. So, you know, we just got became great friends in with Jim together party together. He's a great guy. And and next thing. I know daily went really like you got to get along said he is he is because van and the next day. They call us back. Call me back in that was thinking they're sending me home the pink slips and be back there. Lanta Georgia thinking, you know, just they're not funny. Go with the next day. Call us in they had a table. All the producers writers everybody had Haber champagne. I went eight in the morning. I want you guys start drinking very early. I don't know. How you do? It sounds like Siri sending me home. And then they went what we got fries for you. What is it? 'cause I'm really ready to go back to land Georgia. This guy puts a four arm around my neck and kinda sorta strangling me, you know, just as a joke, and I couldn't even look I look back. He's laughing. He goes. Coy how you doing? How you doing? Very start filming Christopher Mayer, sometimes credited as chip mayor was a struggling actor with only a couple of small parts TV movies when he got the role of Vance Duke, while Schneider, and whoa, Pat, we're telling the press things like the Duke, boys. Sure wouldn't stand for being cheated. And neither will we an actual quote from their press. Release. Byron cherry was telling the press things like all I wanna do is keep one of others happy and show up on time. That's an actual quote key told people magazine in nineteen two and for the most part. That's what Sherry and mayor. Did they showed up on time and to work as coy events the cast and crew of the dukes of hazzard eventually warmed up to the new guys. They're actual Nancy amazing. There were days when you know, there'd be some from sarcasm z- thing going on here. And there things said nothing bad at all. But you know, after about two or three shows, I mean, the even the Teamsters in, you know. Doc Rivers that have people the extras that work on that. And everybody, you know, just really started lagging weeding complain things refine onset Annan hazzard county until September twenty fourth nineteen eighty two. That's when the fifth season debuted and the show that had been in the top ten the last two seasons had plummeted down to number twenty seven as the show and the dispute went on it would drop as low as thirty six water brothers insisted everything was fine and pointed out that it was still winning its timeslot on Friday nights. But the truth was it was now in a virtual tie on Friday nights with the ABC sitcom Benson fans of the show weren't happy. Either something Byron cherry remembers all too. Well. Then you know, you hear it more the fan more. The band are fans are up. Oh, well, I love and that's just there is no point. And it just there were standing or this. And there were that. And we messed up the ratings and in. I don't listen to any of that one brothers had believed that the car sixty nine charger known as the general was doing real star of the show as the season went on. They learned that wasn't exactly true. And even though the show was sliding down the ratings as fans didn't take to coin Vance one brother's still held firm on their position. It was John Snyder coming to Warner's without any lawyers agents that led to things being settled in the end in the book, the dukes of hazzard. The unofficial companion Snyder is quoted as saying the merchandise hitting two hundred million dollar surprise Warner Brothers as well. They weren't paying attention. It's such a shame. It really wasn't oversight. And we didn't know it also said that using the word cheated in their initial press. Release was a mistake that using it had backed one brothers into a stance that they had. Listened to bed advice. Both lawsuits would be dropped. And neither side claimed victory. When I asked Byran Terry about the merchandising lawsuit. He had a very interesting way of looking at it, you know, merchandise. You didn't get a big shake verse name we sold millions and millions and millions of dollars merchandising. But they they they did they went they went after wonder brothers, Tom Boeing, Luke, and then even Roscoe lipset that one day he came back to set. Luke left because they're suing one brothers for merchandising. And they got the bus kick. They did not win. They. They lost money with the lawsuit dropped just in time for Christmas of nineteen eighty two. It was time for Snyder. And whoa, Pat to get back to work. But what about coin Vance Snyder, John and always stayed in touch out in LA? So even he put me up in his Khanda of agent for while. Yeah. He calls me. And goes just let you know right before Christmas goes, he goes a newsman. Oh, just lay it out. What is it that bad news? I love I love that news now. He's a oh, we're coming back. And I went to that we already done eighteen or so shows and then. I knew that. I feel like, you know, I was very happy to one show John. And now we into a homeless a whole season and just less, you know, awesome. And he goes, oh that you're not mad. No, not at all. You know? I think you guys worked at out you're coming back. But you know, I'll do more love to do more shows. And maybe they'll keep us on on that. And then calls us in and goes, oh got some good news and bad news. I what oh. Know, the bad news coming back, and we're guys write us off the show like odd, you know, or call me, it's funny because they didn't know that that item Snyder. Now, the idea that Byron cherry hat about keeping coy and Vance on the show might seem like a bit much but consider that when Bowen Luke came back. One brothers did issue a statement saying, and I am quoting here. We intend to keep them in the cast and take full advantage of the fact that they have created their own van followings and also keep in mind. One brothers had already done this once before sort of I'm gonna need you to bear with me as we go down this rabbit hole. If you go all the way back to nineteen fifty eight the third season of the popular western Cheyenne had just finished. The very first hour long western and the very first hour long series period that wasn't an anthology the star of Chhaya n-. Clint Walker wasn't happy with his deal key wanted a number of changes his contract. He wanted higher residuals a better percentage on his personal appearances. And he wanted out of his recording contract that he had with Warners. Yes, Cheyenne sang so while he sat Cheyenne went on with a new lead unknown actor tie harden came in for the fourth season and this show barely skipped a beat. Eventually Walker came back with a slightly modified deal, but hardens character had done. So well that they decided to spin him off into his own show called Bronco. Texas. But that was the nineteen fifties and back here in the nineteen eighties. There would be no continuation for coin Vance. No, spinoff, only the end of the road. The nineteenth episode of season five was called. Welcome back. Bowen Luke, and in it, the Duke boys return home, and no sooner do they get their new EC coy and Vance leaving town never to return again. Making matters worse was at Byron cherry and Christopher Mayer had signed two year deals. They hill my contract or another year solid year as if I was working another season. Eight me in in full for another season and away in a way hurt me a little bit. I looked at the money. But in a way, they say also go, but you cannot work any of the film gig outside of women buddy, Warner Brothers didn't hire me for anything at that time. So I just I basically just went home to. And did some did some work. I was teaching acting classes and doing seminars, and you know, wait out that year, and because they were paying me, but I couldn't I could not work on any film. And that was my deal with them coming fresh off the dukes of hazzard both cherry and Mayer might have had a little bit of interest from Hollywood having them both sit for a year killed that. All. Ratings wise Bowen loop returning did provide an initial boost to the dukes of hazzard the show jumped back into the top twenty for the last few episodes of the season. But it's still finished at twenty nine overall. In fact, the dukes of hazzard with never be a top ten show again, even with Luke back for the full six season. It did even worse finishing at thirty six that year the show seventh and final season would be its worst finishing at sixty one. Schneider enroll Pat and now look at their hold out as a mistake. It's hard to blame them though, considering what Warners was taking in and considering recent television history in nineteen eighty-two. Now, I already told you about Eric Estrada getting what he wanted. But he wasn't alone in the fifth season all in the family series star Carroll O'Connor decided that he wasn't getting a proper leading man salary and left the show demanding a raise. This was the reason for the three episode arc known as wears Archie. The story line was that O'Connor's character. Archie bunker had gone missing. If the producers couldn't convince O'Connor to come back on set. They had a plan. They were going to kill Archie off offscreen and have stretch Cunningham arches pal at work and a recurring character on the show move into the bunker home in the end O'Connor got paid though no numbers wherever revealed. If you're around in nineteen eighty you probably remember the who shot JR cliffhanger hysteria with series, Dallas. What most people don't remember was that Larry Hagman play JR union decided that summer to take advantage of that hysteria and demand a big race? Again, the show put a replacement plan in place here. They had Robert Culp waiting in the wings to take over the role since JR had been shot. His face was bandaged up wants to bandages came off. And Culp was revealed. It would be explained that JR needed plastic surgery to recover from his runs, but in the end Hagman much like Carroll O'Connor and Eric Astrada ended up back on set with a big fat pay raise. Now, some of you out. There are television historians yourself, and you might be thinking put what about Suzanne Somers that didn't work out. Right. And you're right. It didn't. But we're Suzanne Somers went wrong with that. Her demands were. Ridiculously high. And for those of you who don't know what I'm talking about. Suzanne Somers was on a hit sitcom called three's company. And again, she was someone who decided that her salary was no longer fair, but she wasn't looking for double or triple her salary. No. She wanted five times which she was making. She had been earning already. Impressive thirty thousand episode and demanded one hundred and fifty thousand episode oh, and she also demanded ten percent ownership of the series with the producers refused to give in. She started calling in sick eventually led to her role being minimize. And then fire had heard demands not been so Astra novel C likely would have stayed on. There is one place in TV history where Coen Vance were the originals and Pohan Luke the replacements that would be on the cartoon version of the series, simply called the dukes and aired Saturday mornings on CBS and was being made the same time as season five. But since Bowen Luke warrant around the cartoon Duke season, one featured coy and Vance as the leads, but the funny thing about it was that since cartoons take longer to make by the time. The animated dukes made their debut on Saturday mornings in February of nineteen eighty three calling Vance were already long gone from Friday nights when the second and final season of the dukes came around Bowen, Luke had replaced them. Once a year of sitting was over. Both would get steady work mayor would end up on the soap opera Santa Barbara for a two year stint amongst a number of guest spots on TV shows for the next two decades. He died in two thousand eleven from a brain aneurysm at the age of fifty seven Byron cherry is still out there acting for a while he drove a replica of the generally as his everyday car just going around town taking the kids to school picking up groceries. He does regular appearances at places like the Tri cities hazard fest and takes the stage alongside John Schneider, and Tom whoa, Pat. And there's no hard feelings amongst anyone. And when the fancy coy Duke these days, it's nothing but love when you go to one of these shows, one of these issues amazing the fans, I mean, you've got little kids that look up to you. And you got grandma and grandpa ago. Oh, I used to watch you Ed or Friday night. You know, you're my favorite so heartwarming. Mazing? For anyone who might be interested. He is available for work. You can contact him at the Duke at g mail dot com. Thank you for listening to this episode of the industry. This episode was written edited and hosted by me, Dan, Delgado music in this episode was by toll for more and Alex Elena. John Kirsch the whole other biz best studios and silent partner. Especial? Thanks to my guest this month, the Koidu Kim south Byron sharing. 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Jim Nagy (Part 1)

The College Draft with Ross Tucker

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

Jim Nagy (Part 1)

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By the way. Speaking of me just finished, a very media conversation with Jim Nagy from the senior bowl today will be part one next week, we'll have part, two part, one is really all about his career in scouting, how he got a job how he moved up the ranks the two organizations. He and I were with at the same time everything that went in to Jim getting the where he is now. And then part two next week, we will really, really dive into the senior bowl itself, what it means. Why it's so important. What the time line is what's next Ford, if you love the. College draft you love this scouting process. Well, you're listening to the right podcast, number one, and number two, you'll really enjoy both aspects of the conversation with Jim Nagy from the senior bowl. Here's part one well as promised extremely excited about today's guests a guy that I guess I kind of knew since my rookie year and two thousand one I think he might be the only person I was ever a member of Turgen ization with in the scouting part of it. At least it's kind of funny, we never really talked about it, and really ever only had a couple of conversations, but he is now the executive director of the senior bowl does a terrific job there. I mean, the senior bowl has just taken off and he didn't outstanding job this past year and was a scout for almost twenty years before that he is Jim Nagy, Jim, what's up man? Iran. Sorry about, hey, I gotta start with this because I go over this all over this all the time with matinee being from where I'm from in Pennsylvania. Nagy nagy. What are we going with? I go Nagy because it's easier you know, I'm not one of the I could go the other man. Really? Honestly, it whatever whatever's give you I'm fine. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna split hairs over it. I'm good. It's funny, because that's been like a major issue in Chicago, where half. The people say, Nagy half the people say Nagee, and I guess Matt told people it's actually like, hey, like Nagy. So it's actually even if it's even harder. It's in between. Well, if you go back to the motherland in Hungary, it's pronounced nudge. So, yeah, it's kind of obscure name here in the United States, but it's actually Smith. If you go over to Hungary, it's the most common surname over there. So. Yeah, we'll, we'll go, what whatever works raw down. All right. So I wanna start Jim we're gonna make this a two parter because I wanna to do a whole episode just on the senior bowl and what an event and business. That's become. But I, I wanted to kind of give people your background. I know a lot of it and actually looked up some of it, but I prefer to let my guest kind of tell the story of where you grew up. You know what did you play and kind of how did you how did you into this business? Yeah. Well, we got a little time. Usually doesn't fit radio show. It's doing podcast. No, I grew up in northern Michigan and a place called traverse city you know, people like that's how I got into scouting, and I tell him really in the NFL, the only advantage that I had with that, I knew and I wanted to do from the time out about six or seven years, old, honestly, grew up around the game of football, and my dad was a coach then what he's stepped away from teaching and coaching we moved to a new town and just by chance there, the kid who I became best friends with his dad was the varsity coach at that school. So just, you know, grew up, you know, two days and, you know, being the equipment manager when I was in elementary school, and running water bottles out at time out and all that stuff that just grew up around the game and then grew up playing it. You know, played a lot of baseball and basketball in high school as well. And when I got done with high school, my only opportunities. To keep playing with with small school football division two division three. So this was pre internet. You couldn't just get on and Google, you know how to become an NFL scouts. So I had no clue. It was just, you know, I idea what I was doing. And I got waitlisted at the university of Michigan. So I was really planning to go play division three football. And once I got into Michigan, I figured, oh, well, that's how people must do it. They must work for, you know, a big, big powerhouse football program or something like that. I really again, just had no idea. And then I went to Michigan for, for four years. My last two I went down and volunteered. And the Atlantic department did a lot with the football team did some stuff on the weekends with the basketball team networks would come into town to make a little money. And then I get sent out resumes and cover letters, really. And back then there was no internships, and the scouting side of things and your only your only way to get your foot in the door was through the. Office. So then out resumes and cover letters to all the PR department through on the league got rejection, letters back from all of them, and except for the Packers and the Packers called and, and brought me over there for training camp. And it was the year. They won the Super Bowl in ninety six and at the end of camp they needed they needed extra help for the year. So they asked me to stay on. And really that was the it was an unbelievable year and all I did was whenever I was done with, with my PR responsibilities for the day. If I've got a break in the day, I would go up to the scouting department, and, you know, bother John Schneider, and Reggie McKenzie to sit and watch tape with those guys and there was five future GM's on that staff. So it was just one of those right place, right time, meet the right people type of thing. And, you know, when you when you broke in not out of Princeton in Washington, that year that was my first year on the road is a scout. John Schneider had been hired to be the right hand guy for mardi Schottenheimer. And in John. Annette control to, you know, put together personnel staff to he hired me to scout the west coast that year. So that was my first year in the league that is awesome. So you know what? I really resonate with that story Jim because my dad's five nine one hundred seventy pounds. And so I actually kinda grew up thinking that I wanted to be like a broadcaster or a like a writer for Sports Illustrated. So if I hadn't gotten, you know, as big as I got and had the opportunities that I had, you know, I can absolutely see myself having to make the decision between playing division three football or basketball or going the like a Syracuse New house school or something like that, for the broadcasting part of it that would be really difficult. I mean, think about your background, your dad, how much like you love football. And you basically voluntarily stopped playing early or prematurely. I would imagine they had to be a pretty a pretty difficult decision because I can just picture myself having to make that same decision. Yeah, it was Ross. It was hard. You know my, my freshman year at Michigan, I barely I, I went to like a game or two. I had a hard time just going and watching guys that I you know, went to camp with the summer before, you know, and they're out there they're out there still playing. I couldn't bring myself to do it. So, yeah, it was it was hard, you know, and I would more often more often than not, I would I would go see my buddies that we're playing around the state of Michigan at other levels of football and just go watch those guys play. But yeah, it was hard. But just like anything, I knew I wanted to get to, and I thought I was doing the right thing. You know, I really did in hindsight. You know, if I would've known there, the, the NFL absolutely littered with guys that played D to indeed three football. You know, I was in New England for a long time with Nick Caserio and Josh Daniels and Josh mcdaniels those guys were teammates at John Carroll. You know, had had I known I could have went that route and got former years the plan and those memories that would have been awesome. But I've no regrets. Everything worked out everything worked out the way, I dreamed it. Would I got it the NFL and had a good almost two decades, and it was it was an awesome Braun but yeah, it was it was hard at the time being eighteen and just knowing you're done, and that's, that's the hard thing about football, and you can, you know, basketball, you can play pick up hoops somewhere. You know you can get into into an adult baseball league somewhere. But when you take off the pats, it's over, you know, and, and, you know the, the truly blessed they're the ones can take them off, you know on their own own accord. That's the tough part when you're kind of forced to take them off. But yeah, it would have been fun to play a little more. But I kind of felt like I had to do what I do so. And obviously it worked out, and you made a great decision. I, I wanna get to it's funny. How often I talked to somebody who has a job in sports that they have a similar story to you about writing a letter to every team, you know, to try to get in, and then you were these. You were in public relations or media relations public relations for that one year yet. So what it, what it John Schneider? And Reggie McKenzie think when the public relations guy was in their office all the time. I don't know. I mean, I, I, I think John appreciated it because you know he had a similar path to. I mean he played division three ball over at Saint Thomas in Minnesota. And just grew up a lifelong Packers fan. You know, he's from Green Bay and doing he came when he graduated college. She basically, you know, stocked out, Ron woolfe in the parking lot of lambofield. And you know, you know, begged him for a job to work for free. So I think he under I think he appreciated where I was coming from because I was just, you know, I, I did what I had to do to get my foot in the door. You know. And then once I, I had in there, I was, I was focused on what I wanted to do. So I don't know that those guys and they're, they're probably annoyed by me. I tried to do it the right way. But I'm sure they were times there were like, what's this PR young PR kid doing up here? I don't know John and I'm talking about that long time. So I guess my other question there is you go to the Redskins. And Marty Schottenheimer is given total control your organization, he hires John Schneider. Who I don't even know how old he wasn't two thousand one but he looked young. I mean really he was wanting nine twenty nine years old twenty nine basically. I mean he really was the GM. I know Marty had alternate say, but he's neither was really running the show so you get the job. You're so excited you get this opportunity and that year we start out Owen five. We go on win the next five to get to five and five we finish eight and, you know, Dan Snyder fires. Marty Schottenheimer at the end of the year, which really set the franchise back for years when he brought in Spurrier, then when did you did you leave on your own accord, or were you let go in that whole? Team change. Yeah, that's a that's another. That's another twist. Yeah. I would tell people Ross that team like you mentioned, we started Owen five and then turned her own at five and five, and I remember Chris Samuels, Stephen Davis were on the cover of Sports Illustrated after that bit win. And we're the first team in NFL history to do that. Dr toe, and five and go five and five, but I honestly felt like Marty Schottenheimer should have won coach of the year that year considering the you know what we were playing with what the roster looked like. And as young as we were in, you know, just trying to get things turned it instead he gets a pink slip. So just that's kind of that's the Redskins in a in a nutshell, though over the last twenty five years. I I really felt like mardi was going to get that team turned around really quickly. But yeah, so what what they wanted me to do the new regime that got brought it. And they wanted me to I just moved my fiance out to the west coast. We're living in Arizona doing the west coast and you know didn't even didn't even. Have a ring on her finger when we moved, and they wanted me to move to Washington and work in how they I don't know if they felt like I was ready to be on the road. I was twenty six years old. You know, maybe I wasn't you know in hindsight him. It's a grind and, you know, but they wanted me to move in house, and, and work in Washington. And I said, well, I just moved it's girl a year ago. She's now, my wife of, of sixteen years. But is there any way that I can, you know, look for something else that would keep me on the west coast and then God that how I didn't know a lot of people around the league? But I I call Jason light from is working at the patriots at the time the GM and the buccaneers now. And just calling the people that I knew, and see if they had anything open and thank God Jason. Yeah. We actually have a west coast opening being go down and talk to Scott, the elderly, and he calls back. Five minutes later. He's like, yes. Got like to bring in for an interview and when out there a couple of days later and got that job. So I didn't I didn't have to. To, to DC able to stay out in Phoenix and due west coast for the patriots. That's awesome. So what's interesting to me about that? Jim is Crimea from wrong. But the patriots typically like to hire guys with no experience. Right. They don't they almost don't want you to have worked for another organization because they want you to teach they want to teach you their ways rather than whatever was in your head from Green Bay in Washington, my off on that or is that kind of that kind of accurate. Yeah. I think that we're it's gotten to roster. Sure with with that game they like to promote from within. But that was you're talking about two thousand going into the two thousand two, then that was truly at the, you know, the inception of, of what got in go spellcheck where we're building out there in New England now like current day. I don't think they would go that route, they'd probably have someone in the pipeline. And again but again going back that far that was right about the time where teams. Started to hire scouting assistance and have have like intern type positions in scouting. So I don't even know if they had one in the hopper. You know, ready for that role in how so you know, the lucky thing for me with that one against this white place, right time? It's one of those things that, that, you know, maybe some young people can learn from, they had a I was living out, west still working for the Redskins that's spring. And there was a pro workout for a wide receiver from candidate Martinho Richter, and it was up in Salt Lake in, because I was on the west coast. It was cheaper to fly me up from Phoenix, and send someone from DC. So I go up to that workout. And you know, I'm just like any young guy. I'm just looking to do anything. I'm doing his height of doing his weight. I'm you know, you know measuring off the forty I'm doing basically doing my best to help run this pro day. And I was real Scott bueller. He happened to be at that workout there that day and he just took a mental note if this young guy from the Redskins. Going around trying to get stuff done. And so when Jason light, walk down the hallway and said, hey, I've got a guy that, you know, looking for our west coast job, he said, who is it? And Jason said Jim Nagy and Scott like, Yup. I remember that guy from the, the Mark Boal Richter pro day. Let's bring him in. So it was I was really lucky. That's got there that day or he wouldn't have known who I was. So it's just is one of those things you never know who's watching you. When you when you're in the NFL, you can always make a good impression. That is unbelievable. You know what I remember the most about you, Jim? You probably don't remember this conversation. But I'll never forget you because I remember so I came into England and five and then they had some injuries. They signed me, and then oh, six I resigned there and I can't remember who it was. Oh, five. I wanna say it was the spring of. Oh, six probably before the draft. And you were probably in town for draft meetings. And yeah you were in the cafeteria. The patriots cafeteria, and so was I and we kind of looked at each other, and I knew you look familiar, but I didn't really remember your name players don't interact with scouts very much certainly not college outs. But I think maybe you recognize me or something. So I knew I recognize you. I just know your name, so we started talking and do you remember what you introduced me to that. I never heard of before. I do. Remember our conversation by don't remember that. I do I do remember running into you. But I don't remember what you're what you're what you bring it up. Now you were the first person that ever told me about pro football talk dot com. Really? Yeah. We were talking about something, and I was just getting my information from KF L. And we might have been talking about something about the Redskins or the draft or whatever. And you said where do you get your information from mice fell? And I said an and you said, have you ever looked at pro football talk dot com. I said, no, I never heard of it. And you said you should check it out, and I remember you saying that I hear that there are some owners that, that's the first thing they read when they wake up in the morning. And I remember thinking. Wow. Okay. So I started reading pro football talk, Dan. And obviously never stopped. It's become a behemoth and really big deal. But I remember you're that I never heard of it. So you mentioned it to me. That's funny, brought up. K F L that used to be an awesome sight as well. I go to that every day. But you've got unbelievable memory Ross. That's, that's incredible. Yeah. My wife would disagree, but yeah, I do. I don't know why. But I always remember, you, you tell me that. All right. So so then you work with a bunch of different teams. For eighteen years now you're with the senior bowl and I'll get into part two next week, specifically the senior bowl stuff, but the one thing I did want to ask you in part one, which is more about you is why, why the senior bowl why why this job and why this job now. It was just way too good of an opportunity to, to. We vetted mobile my family spending mobile for twelve years now. And you know mobile in the home of the senior bowl. So the job comes open last may and my phone just start. Slow enough. I was actually out on a jog and a buddy of mine who who works for the dolphins text me, like, are you going after this thing? And you know, get thrown around, like what is he talking about? So I call him. He's like, he's like getting the senior bowl job just came open. So, you know, I, I had a talk with my wife and, and I said, you know, are we going for this thing and she's like you're darn right? We're, we're going for this thing. So I call John Schneider, who's, you know, my Boston Seattle, and I it was the it was an easy conversation because, you know, first and foremost, I consider John, good friend, and he totally understood, and he, you know, he loves my wife and kids, and we're we're very quotes, and Jimmy, you gotta go for that. Who do I need to who do I need to call? So, you know, I'd say, John, I just I don't wanna be, you know, going back to when, when I started scouting Ross, there was the professions gotten much younger over the years. Used to go to schools when I was a twenty six year old first year scout, you'd go into a school, and there'd be a seventy five year old guy in the room and a sixty eight year old guy in the room. And, you know, I used to ask those guys all the time like what do you have any regrets is there is there anything looking back on your career, you regret and to a man in one once one form or another? They would talk about family time and, you know, just be present being president, for your, your wife and kids when you were home and, you know, all the stuff you miss, and if there's ever a chance for you to, you know, get home and be home for something you have to do it, even if it's making a sacrifice of a long drive. So the family thing always really resonated. And, and, you know, I always took that to heart, and I've got a son who's starting to play high school sports now and you just miss a ton. You know, it's a great profession. I loved what I did all those years, but it's really it's really hard. It's hard on a family. And so to have an opportunity where I could still do. What I love to do, which is evaluate players, you know, and really get a chance to build build rosters. You know, and was in, but stay in mobile and not travel as much. It was too good. So I, I saw Jonathan John, I have to go for this thing. If I'm not there guy, I can live with that. But it but, you know, I at least have to go for this thing, so he was great. And the ball got rolling, then I'd some good help from Ozzie Newsome and some other people in the league that are close to the people here in mobile there that, you know, run the senior bowl. So, yeah, that's, that's kind of it was really family decision. And, and I feel really lucky that it worked out. Well, you're doing an awesome job, the social media stuff obviously what happened with the game last year. You're you're doing an incredible job and absolutely should be commended for that. I guess the one, quote, I saw from you which I thought was interesting is that, you know, if you ever want to be a GM, you know, having to run an organization and have a budget and everything that goes into that are really skills that you don't learn if you're a scout on the road, and I thought that was really interesting because I, I know from my experience, you know, I see GM's get jobs that really aren't ready for the media part of it, or really, frankly, I, I see him. And I see what I think our major mistakes on the financial part of it. They can evaluate guys. But I just don't think that they know the money part of it, that, well, at least some of the contracts, I see then give out to people, and so on some level, you're at least gain, the experience of actually running a pretty big operation. Yeah. You know, I would during the transition when I was coming in here. Someone did an article with Phil savage, my predecessor and film made the comment that he wished. He had this senior bowl job prior to getting his GM job in Cleveland, because he felt like he would have been a lot more prepared and better at it. And you know now that I've been in this role for a year. I mean, I, I would not not that I ever had GM job to compare it to you. But I can see where this job is so beneficial to get not comparing to NFL GM job in the stresses that come along with that. But like you said, you know, in terms of, you know, managing people and handling a budget in the media, and the public speaking, and everything that's involved with, with this job, down here in mobile. You don't get any of that when you're in the NFL, because to me, you know, anything short of that GM chair, they can pay you more money or give you a fancier title. But, you know, you're at the end of the day, you're, you're, you're an evaluator you know. And I've had. Friends get GM jobs that, you know, I've seen them really struggle with the media part of it even on radio. You know, even being able to get on and do radio interviews. They've struggled with because you're never put out there. You never put in front of a camera. You're not used to it. Not that they can't do it, but you're kind of thrown to the wolves. So, so, yeah, I mean this this job's been great preparation for anything that may happen in the future. But I I'm truly loving what I'm doing down here because again, there's, you know, some days, I wish it was more football. I mean I haven't seen a player watch taping about two weeks. So I mean there's there's you can go to long stretches out doing what you really love to do, but it is it is great preparation. And you know, in frankly, I was getting a little rough scouting. Anyway. You know, you've been at schools all the time and being on the road. I mean it was like I said, it's a real grind. So this has been this has been great experience. I've had I've had a blast with it. That was awesome. I'm already fired Bharti thought of another question. Ask him. Part two that I did when we were doing I was like, oh, I should've asked part one, so I started part two with one more question regarding whether or not becoming a GM in the NFL is really a meritocracy. You're not you're gonna wanna listen to par to hear his answer to that. And frankly my answer to that. You also weren't gonna want to go to bed online dot AG, if you haven't already, you could just use the glorious promo code podcast. One ending that gives you fifty percent for free is glorious and I love it. And that's where we're at with the promo code podcast. One, boom podcast, one at Beddoe online dot AG v place to be, but online dot AG podcast, one make baseball more interesting or start placing your college football bets. Go ahead and do it. I think we're done. Here gets kicked world tapped out. 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September 25, 2019 - Hour 1

Brock and Salk

42:23 min | 1 year ago

September 25, 2019 - Hour 1

"Hey it's all care and we really appreciate you. Being a part of our show. It is going to be changing. We are going to become a weekly podcast instead of a daily radio show and we want you to stay with us. Search broken Salkin I tunes the Google play store and click subscribe to automatically receive every episode right on your phone Bracken Song and why did hot pockets not evolve further what streaming nationwide on the seven tenths forty five is by hero with Rockford says he's not my body won't perform shedding ten sports dot com good morning. Everybody it is rock itself has seven to ten. ESPN Seattle Seven Ten sports dot com today is Wednesday. We'll be here today. We'll be here tomorrow will be here Friday and then we'll be on the podcast you can catch us on the interwebs after that. I'll tell you what so we will make the announcement later today or tomorrow. Excuse me tomorrow we will introduce you to our replacements here from seven to ten so we will do that tomorrow details to come. You'll heal your little bit of information leading up to do. I know oh any of them. you know I don't want to give away just seems unfair. I gotcha. I don't think that's fair won't be Luke. Wilson sounds like he's got a job. Are you sure ah I mean I'm not sure but he sounds like he's got a job with the seahawks at least for now he's going to come here and play a little tight end shock yesterday when you saw that news and by the way did you hear who who broke the news on Danny David Moore via twitter yesterday via twitter via twitter yesterday Kyle Adam Kappler at five fifty three three yesterday on Danny David Moore when one of the four of them on their show broke in and said Whoa. We got some breaking news here on twitter Wyman I mean uh-huh yes Wyman was like looks like what do you mean I have no idea and and justice like let me look. Let me look a yeah. That's fair for the schefters account that is schefters account and as you can imagine you know they didn't know Luke Wilson was returned that time I am the only knew that Nick Vernet also one of their favorites was moving out the door right so a little bit above up for the afternoon show David Moore. They're excited about that. Swap watches aww like vinet boy I would have to imagine and I think this was a reminder in reminders all you out there of how this crew every single day eh when the lights are on at that facility down in Renton are evaluating their team were they sit fielding phone calls can they add can they add value what does that look clock and when the Pittsburgh steelers Vance McDonnell gets hurt in San Francisco and they have a need and Kevin Colbert the GM calls John Schneider and they're both in country guy voice and say hey the knick vinyl you know can we can you part with them for a myth gotTA TAT and brother get kidney part with him for a for a fifth get U V for for Nick Net and John Calls his pro personnel people and says Hey Luke Wilson signed anywhere yet because Luke Nick are basically the same player one flouts man one of the Great Techno flutes of all time techno Thursday. Can You do techno Thursday with only one of the two though because when Luke exited technique Thursday ended picks fan can fanton little short shorts jumping into the bucket I can actually I can't picture that he could jump right into that bucket. Don't you think was uncle will part of those festivity. Now predate preacher man Jordan Reuss was on the practice squad. What's his deals yeah the practice squad still kind of hanging out? I still like to call him biker Gandalf so you know there's a bunch of different possibilities. I gotTa Tell You we've spent three minutes here on the return of a guy that I don't think because a particularly great football player and the loss of a guy who's not either. I only have so much in my bag to talk about Luke Wilson and Nick Vinet a couple of very similar tight ends who will backup to backup happened loopholes and hasn't been in the league and you don't like my hot take of this shows once again. They're going for it well. No I don't think I do. I think this is honestly. They're all in brow. They're going the brought back Luke Wilson. Let's go. This is as cheap way to pick up a fisherman remember his catch against the packers twenty fifteen huge catch dame. Yes I do remember that it was five years ago. Can you forget this. That was a really long time ago that he made that catch for the two point conversion which by the way is a miracle caught it because Luke Scott hands of Stone Luke Wilson's good. Oh come on yeah. I'm not GonNa let these urging things blue quills searches name good dude better rate dude better guy handing her blocker the knickknacks to rip fun Jim Jim Minor standing that you don't have credentials so to answer questions from daddy and Dave to that yeah definitely a good a guy to have Sherman revoked his credentials. Remember Jim yes no looks to say I have not seen a minute other than and I did see Luke on a boat with his dad for one flash back. He looks great the we know that's all I know and I it was with no audio oh so I just saw him in the background so there you go the guy who wants dessert for everybody in the media given this weight yeah thank you short shrift. I mean and well not only as a player. You're going to be an upgraded to block huge upgrade. Maybe the less was such a big upgrade. The League hasn't wanted yet this year well in this system which is not played in Um. I'm but I think he's going to be able to come in and just fine but if you remember that he was the one when he left when he was in Detroit before they played the seahawks and the seahawks partying and and he was not allowed to musically his locker room was super bitter he did send all of the Seattle media not just the afternoon guys. He sent him cakes right and he said I'm. I'm like the nothing bundt cakes that's exactly right and that the place you love. Oh nothing bundt cakes are very very good. Kindly recommend those yes but then that led to a wonderful exchange Mike that really furthered your relationship with one Doug Baldwin when you're long gone on the what happened to us man what happened to to be to be completely honest you guys are my favorite though there's another group you know there's a a quarterback in a in a know it all. He's live track is is just the best quarterback they're forcing laughter. They're desperately trying to find their okay. Go on tell us more Doug Friday. Can we just play that for three straight hours there. Ah Well if you like that kind of humor man I'll tell you what our podcast is going to be for you. Text podcast seven seven ten text podcast to seven ten ten seven ten and after Friday. You'll continue to be united with us. Our first podcast is a drop is that what our podcast do they drop. They dropped it will draw on Wednesday so a week from today brock. Our first podcast will drop well. Are you prepared for this. I think I am good. Are we gonNA good guess. What we we had a conversation with our first guest would be what do you think we have to reach out? Is it as easy to get guests for podcast or is it harder. Oh it's easier. Oh Yeah it's much harder Mike some of these. We're going to take one in the mornings warning because your window uh-huh small yup that makes sense but it's the problem with getting guests generally a window issue or is it a window that I don't WanNa go on your quarterback in a know it all right. They just won't talk to we favor yeah we rank for me quickly. The four parts of the SEAHAWKS game so far they're passing offense rushing offense passing defense rushing rushing defense K which is first second third fourth for this team so far for me. I would say they're rushing. Offense is fourth on that list. It gets a certificate of participation with my what I expected going into the season with the personnel they have Mike. I've got a averaging four point zero yards per carry as a team just as a group effort. That's in the bottom twelve of the league so to me you're built to run the ball and that is the most lacking bottom children by the way is also fumbling in rushing yards overall. Yes and you fumbled four times right so so I would put that for passing offense probably I. I think Russell Wilson's play in the best he's ever played tight lock. It is on pace for one hundred yard season. We'll this lays out a tremendous year they were awesome and Pittsburgh kept him a little bit in the game last weekend so I I would probably put passing offense. I I'd put rushing defense last. I'd put pass defense right. They're rushing offense last. I'd put pass defense. It's right there there by the way fourth in the League in defending the raw arguably that has actually been the best thing Kentucky Camara but yes but other than that I mean they really done a good job with that and really most of the Comoros plays were not on rushing plays. They were on screen so I mean they've really probably done that the best of all but it is fascinating that but I think almost anybody would look at this and ranked rushing offense pretty much last and passing offense either first or second yep it leads to this Danny O'Neil quote quote from over the weekend. Did you read Danny Story from was from yesterday at seven ten sports dot com. It's a good read. This is the first line says Pete Carroll's coaching the team. He wishes he had instead of the one. He's currently the in charge of Are they actually doing the things they're like. They're designed this whole thing to run but yet they're only having success throwing the ball and by the way they didn't really bring in the kind of weaponry or types of offensive lineman you would want if throwing the ball was really your goal that speak concern right. There's a Lotta a lot of noise on the outside that in that's been kind of you know been barking for the last year plus an oh by the way you also pay in your quarterback thirty five million bucks right so I think those are often tied together in that argument. I'm glad that they're passing the ball well. I am concerned that they're not rushing the ball and I think that's entirely on your offensive line and I think that is going going to end up being the single biggest thing they've gotta figure out this season right now at seven ten time for need to know need to know the voice of Seattle sports brought to you you by Deuba in law group. Here's what you need to know. I well big news in Seattle for Luke. Wilson fans sounds like he will be returning to the seahawks after they traded tight end. Nick Bennett to Pittsburgh for two thousand twenty fifth round pick vinet really never got untracked here in Seattle. He's been okays. A couple of decent catches. Never been a great blocker never been a consistent catcher of the football and so a third round pick from a few years ago ends up being shipped off near the end of his tenure here for a fifth. I was surprised he even ended ended up making the team this year. I think it's of unhealthy he might have been cut and sort of get anything back for him is probably a good deal as for Luke Wilson you gotta temper the excitement. It's cool to have the personality Malik back here in Seattle and sometimes guys have come back here and outperforms the way they do. The rest of the League certainly Byron Maxwell was the best example of that but don't Oh forget the entire league has seen Wilson out there for the last few weeks instead thanks but no thanks we'll see if he's able to contribute once he gets it a couple more things to add onto that is this gives the the seahawks ten picks going into next year's draft. A bunch of compensatory picks a couple seconds or more than likely this will be upper fifth round. Pick coming from the steelers so you do get get some value for him and also got Ed Dickson coming back in about six weeks. He's on injured reserve able to come back week nine of the season so and oh by the way your Jacob Policy and practice squad too so there still are some options Pittsburgh steelers had a need John Schneider likes to do deals that this isn't the last one before the trade deadline to because I think this team could use a little help. If you spots the second thing you need to know garrick causal up better than the mariners are in case you're wondering he was just filthy. Last night dominated them as they lose three nothing but there wasn't good news out of it not in the offensive side certainly pitching against a significantly better lineup justin done look very good and his two scoreless innings nice to see him finally finally do that is I have been just okay got clobbered in the first and second time he was just okay but yesterday I thought he looked very good and then Tommy Malone has been the surprise of this year. He's this year's version of Wade Leblanc and that's a guy who you're probably going to bring back next year right based on what he did. He's cheap. He's been valuable. He's had a very successful season. There's a lefty yeah you generally have to use an opener with them but I think he's is acquitted himself quite well so uh some nice stuff there from the mariners pitchers and then congrats to the garage he throws out the first pitch yesterday Brooke. You've done it now. The garage has done it. It seems like an incredible honor and a nerve wracking experience critical deal is scare coal free agent after the season believe you I believe he is going to get paid that man's making himself some money. That was his fifteenth consecutive win last night a franchise record those were three hundred sixty nine three hundred sixteen strikeouts in the season now that is also also a Houston Astros record and there's only a few guys he looks up to in baseball in a single season as far as strikeouts go that'd be Nolan Ryan and that would be the former big unit himself Randy Johnson. The guy is elite very curious. What this market does market has not given some of those pictures some of the long deals they did a decade ago that guy's GonNa Command an immense amount of money and what a talent is? Here's the thing it's another Washington Wednesday eight thirty Broccoli you telling you what he's hearing around the League but he's got the game this weekend how about that the number Seventeen huskies hosting number twenty one. USC Battle Top twenty five teams here in Seattle twelve thirty start as I mentioned on Saturday and a good test US's not a great team but they were good quality opponents and this'll be the next test to see if the huskies have put behind them. Whatever ever it was that occurred against Cao was at the weather was it the defense cow played where they just off? Was it a bad day or if they grown since then Bush Hamden the problem and all those those things and I think we'll start to really get an answer to this Saturday at home yet. One thing is strikingly different is would use it here on a Wednesday. One team is real healthy and one team is not so unoccupied mess miss last game. He is the only starter to miss a start the first month of the season the first four games out. That's pretty remarkable. USC is a third string quarterback has got corners out has got linebackers. Backers out has got a lion has got a bunch of injuries throughout their roster so a very healthy high flying teams playing their best ball will welcome in still as far as talent it goes at the very very top end still an elite talented team with some receivers. They're gonNA play on Sunday really good match up to watch all right three things you need to know. We'll do that a few more times. uh-huh you will hear that of course tomorrow and then on Friday and then this new show will take over. We'll have some announcements for you guys tomorrow. Seriously we would like to have have you stay with us. We will be doing a podcast. 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NFL from the Professor John Clayton presented by Infiniti Tacoma at five thirty points a game the best running team in football plus wild card if you can have two attributes of animals what attributes would you choose the girth of gorilla in the face of a lion waits. John Clinton's morning drive with rock and Sauk Good Morning. John Big changes at the tight end position sort of I mean two guys that are kind of similar to which other nick the net out Luke Wilson what we think smart move again because you know with with Wilson being out there the last couple of weeks being cut by Oakland and opened up the door that now how you can get value for Nick Vernet and your four. We've closer to getting if you need Ed Dixon so now I think it's smart and of course you still have Jacob Hollister. So what you had was a little bit of an excess. That's some with you get Wilson back which they did and now you get a fifth round pick which was the last year of his contract for the net the net done a pretty good job but he'd been beaten out by will dizzily and so yeah it was a very smart move John Schneider anybody else out on the street like Luke Wilson this team could sign and more than likely activate in in in having a game and that kind of remarkable remarkable when you think about it yeah. It's been sitting out there for the last month since he got caught got cut nobody else has signed him and then here he goes. You may be actually playing this Sunday. MHM Does Shawn shed would probably be the one that you would think of because he he's you know you can play him slot corner. You can play him into safety so he would be one that. I think would always always be on the back of John Snyder's mind. When is the trade deadline week eight and we think we're GONNA see more of these sorts really no doubt I mean we're already up to ninety one trade so far and so it looks like there's going to be over one hundred trade which would be? I think it's that would be a record so yeah the it's going to be constant as you get closer to the trade deadline. We'll see how many more but no I. I think you'll see more what has changed. Why are we seeing more trades? It's something to do with the CBA. Is it have to do with teams that are sort of tanking or players that want out of their response. I mean why do we seem more traits. What it is is that more general managers particularly the younger general managers are taking looking saying okay where where is this draft choice in our whole long-term plans whether it's a first round pick you know you're in year three year four and it's like okay? Are we going to resign what we're going to do and so more guys is that are have been drafted are getting traded than ever before because you know if you're not going to be able to keep them past four years and you want. He's not in the plans and then you can get some value form and what you have like for example. Bill is the best football as being the most active because what you realize in the new. CBA which is two thousand and eleven what what happened is that you get less time with the player so it literally takes about three years to equal the amount of time in meetings and practices and all that that you had before and so that's why Bill Belichick is the most active in trying to pick up draft choices from other teams that are in their third and fourth year and if you keep you keep if not you could compensatory what what else you notice Sulky United Little Late Nasca work this morning on a database looking back at that draft class you know what else do you notice John. There's just some years where in you say this all the time about certain draft classes and total bad draft class in that year where Vernet was drafted. Cj prosise Yamba Nick Veneta you got three third rounders three late late third around Kinda start to look at the draft and go Jeez you know. Did you get enough out of that well. There's not a whole lot around start to going to piece these drafts together and there's just just some years. There's a lot more hits than than other years. Two fifteen to two thirteen was bad to fifteen was bad and we're starting to see to sixteen being a little thin too because I A- As of right now just the nut looking at the database but I think there's one hundred seven draft choices still with their teams and that includes about seventeen guys that fifty four fifty or options so that means. There's only like ninety nine first round picks still with their teams and this is the year four it what's going on with Cam. Newton is going to be a list frank. Thank Injury Honestly I. I talked to them yesterday and I don't think it is I mean it's a mid foot sprain that because you know he hasn't visited Dr Richard Anderson yet and Anderson's persons the Liz Frank doctor and so the fact that he hasn't visited him and from what I heard from the panthers I mean it's a it's gonNA keep him out a couple of weeks. There's no doubt about it but it's not a Liz Frank. 'cause there's a list frank. Only to bad things can happen. I mean you basically sit out the rest of the season or send out seventy eight weeks and hope it heals or what you do is that you have surgery and then you're definitely out for the season so I don't think it's Liz Frank. I think it's just a mid foot sprain got about four weeks or so until that trade deadline. What are the odds? The seahawks us one of these ten draft picks. They have in next April's draft to make a move. I think it's always a possibility I mean you know you saw they. They used you know the third round pick to get Judean clowney. It's just a matter with injuries and what needs a may have and injuries play more into it because I think they realize it's a deep team and it's not like they're you know needing to get something right now but you know he's always going to be looking John Snyder to see what he can try to acquire. You think we're GONNA see more from ziggy on saw this weekend half to Tennessee enough a month Sunday I mean he had nineteen plays no sacks no pressures no tackles in school. Yeah I think you'll see more of them. I hope so we really made a big deal out of that. I mean thank God at least traded for. GW and cloudy who didn't have a great day on Sunday but at least I spotted it's been a factor. I mean what we saw from. Zeki was downright scary area. That's all he's got John. We have problem our hands here but again it's one game it's one game and he had no training camp fair but it's the only game we've had a chance to see today and came out with absolutely lutely Nokia. I mean at least this guy he's been here since April training running conditioning doing drills had had some reps Jon and then the groin and then came back. I'm cloudy came on straight from the streets in that first game made a significant impact ziggy. Did nothing also understand that the you know oh clown wasn't fighting an injury I mean he didn't get to injuries that were there for for Ziggy because you know he's coming off the shoulder and he had to groin injury. You know what you get to fight John only three more days of this three more days. It's all you got you got three more wild cards. From how do they answer time now. For the Wildcard Wildcard Wildcard Mister Professor Clayton who is your best friend will you were nine years old and what is he doing now pat o'malley and he was a lawyer and I I think he got out out of the law business and just started to work in some factory type stuff and all that and he's down into the bay area so molly was hold on hold on let me the second he was a lawyer and now he works in a factory odd career decision career path the own factory or look like he's begun some troubling so you say you all now white collar criminal no no we we we. We may grow up in a bad area but you got it. Okay that o'malley lawyer and now he is a factory worker in the bay area very cool John it's always a pleasure you never know what we're going to get out of the wild cards and always never ceases to surprise me so thank you talk to you tomorrow. Okay all right there you go. There's junk laden with us every day seven fifteen that's surprise you would do you know that how did you listen listen to him talking about Pat o'malley yesterday or something. How did I just always curious how do you how did you know when he was nine years old? You did some digging or something or you heard some- somewhere how very very very curious rock okay well you got to wildcards left out. I hope tax message. I hope the ripping on Ziggy is being documented for your podcast days to own up to look. I'm not ripping on the guy. I'm surprised that you know he did zero. He did nothing he was invisible correct on Sunday. That's that can't happen for this his team to be what we want them to be. No no in fact Jarran Reed Clowney Ziggy Ansah. You know you were asking me to rank the passing offense and run offense pass defense run even if that at past defense has any chance over the course of the season by the way going to match ups San Francisco in the rams that are two of the better more efficient teams and I think great game planners those those three guys have to wreck a game plan they just have to be difference makers for that defense and Ziggy at least the first nineteen snaps nowhere close and Jaren miss and the first six weeks a bit of a bummer though you will get him back and he's got to be a big time factor to all right good stuff all right coming up brock. Maybe for the last time which is bad. We'll just be the last time well which is better make its way to the podcast. I think it will I think it will. I think it should every week. Maybe once a month once a month or something like that we really this meeting. We have today where we discussed the podcast and be very aboard a clue what we're doing or how this thing is going to go which is better as definitely next. I'm rocking salk double header from heritage distilling company it has in a couple of shots of BSP Brown Sugar Purpose Stop into our Ballard or Capitol hill tasting rooms before or after the game you can't spell baseball without BSP heritage distilling distilling company proud sponsor of your Seattle Mariners. You're listening to bracken. Salk live from the Alaska Airlines studios streaming through the seven intense sports APP and on seven ten sports dot com. Are we going to get you guys on the we get some questions for you guys at eight o'clock and then we have a guest coming up later in the show began both John John Gamble on show. Oh Heck yes we are. What does he even have left to say? His team is awful. Their fan base is worse believing and knows better than the see how he does. Maybe doesn't but I'M GONNA. Let's say he does and Gamboa's a hoot. Campbell will join us at nine o'clock. That's always entertaining from our sister station down in Arizona but right now time for our favorite game show which is is better which is better grosses first pitch last night she saw the video of or Brock's first pitch from a few two years ago and I got to throw it to Seth Smith he threw it to Donny Walton Donnie Walsh of the Walton Family Yep Karaz crying out loud really We're in to nine on the bat. Did you think he would ham it up. More well. There were eleven thousand people there. There's only so much and he was very nervous very was still expect of all people like I would have expected out with mustard all over his mouth or something get in the hot dog commercial but just kind of tossed it in there and good job job by the garage yesterday got near the plate. Yes if you want to get it within the play Yup. Give him a chance to receive it on the other end right. He's don't WanNa be like city or something like you. Don't WanNa you don't WanNa make it. I didn't WanNa make sports is Lydia was helpful yesterday. Did you guys play catch linear. You guys just coaching. That's actually from garage his final pick yeah. We yeah we gave him some. I'm sure very unhelpful point. Do you remember when Clayton threw out the first pitch so when he threw out the first pitch let me give you a little inside Intel Dorota. I painted yeah so oh yes he did I want he did practice. Oh yes he did so. When you throw the first pitch you come out the little tunnel we've been out a few times times over by the guests dugout right there's tunnel and they actually have it marked off in the corridor outside the Diamond Club so you can get a feel for how far it is and everything and I remember the folks same? John kept hitting the wall and eventually like okay. We're not going to do that because the ricochet so let's just do your best out there to go for. JC Yeah it was short. It was it was it was short cat which is better Joe Rogan or Bill Simmons and I asked just because the podcast world like they seem to be two of the most popular your cat a`research in the competition. Yeah turn to see what we're up against in this new podcast world. It's noodles Joe Rogan from fear factor is arena for news racing option but I guess S. you go rogue and bill. Simmons is so overplayed uninteresting he was on the house. This guy's a worst. He's got nothing it's interesting since he had his little old is his first sight was a huge hit right and it was one to the NBA mainland big dateline England was an HBO failed Big Right He went to the NBA okay set a good writer on TV. He's off. He's definitely he's responsible for me wanting to get into this business anybody Oh yeah when I was soon after college college even in college I thank Eh Ecology and then soon afterward reading grantland. He wasn't doing grant line he wasn't even at ESPN. He was just doing just beyond page two before that he was just Boston sports guy he had a blog and he was Boston Sports Guy Yeah. That's how we got his start in the blogger. He and Mike felder does afternoons in Boston sort of came up at the the Herald together. One guy decided he wanted to go and work in that world and being a writer and Simmons went the other way and ended up becoming a blogger. Her blog was grave really the first of its kind to talk about sports that way I know you're right cow that he's sort of become borish as he's gotten older and it's just sort of Old News at Bill Simmons at the very beginning before he even went to ESPN as amazing as anything I've ever read he had seen he's the one who for started calling Pete coach Freida. It is world bill parcells was I think son Bill parcells sunny bell check was Michael Carroll Spray. I wonder if he'd have made his big one in Boston. I doubt it where else would he found that audit garland which is better Nick Vernet or Luke Wilson unique delivery guys which is better Luke Wilson and it's not even a debate really then that's what says more about nick the net which is better which is right now though Luke Wilson the unemployed Luke Wilson is still better than knickknack. You're probably right. It's also possible Luke Wilson. Does nothing gets cut here in a few weeks. Dixon comes back. Oh it's probably like right but that's how bad nick vinet was. How does a person how about as a speaker how about an entertainer it looks more entertaining knick's over the top right? He's just kind of got that club going thing or whatever they're both fine though Riley techno Tuesday. That's like day for techno music but we don't practice on Tuesday so I just change it to Thursday. Luke is just a good dude and then you said about that techno Thursday couple years ago. You're like you know what it's a work. Environment and unique characters like Luke Wilson you do yup I'll give you I'll say Luke on that. One is going to be joining us a bit later here on the show which is better jokes about the Bros.. In Arizona taking shots shots shots or jokes about the old people in Arizona taking their rascal scooter to the game you can do the metamucil thing with him and I don't know probably bring that back out which is better jokes about Bros.. In Arizona or jokes about old people I'm not comfortable with jokes about the old people really yeah I mean G G in poverty seven and a half year down there exactly right exactly my point yes. He can joke about that. My guess jokes about G. I got plenty of jobs for days. You loved Youtube. Why can like these people and still make fun of them? I'd make eight funny. You and I love you. The jokes about the Bros.. Are Better Yeah. I don't know I don't mess I don't mess with my demographic and we're going to need the seventy. Many plus detects podcast. The worst jokes about old people are much funnier than jokes about the pros and Arizona those get older hurry and anybody can make those which is better brock. Here's a hard question for you ready which is better broken salt version one pre sabbatical or now that we've got two days left. I'll brock in Sauk version. Two Point Zero or three point does coming. That'll be the PODCAST ASS rock consult three point zero a little system update which was better now that this one is coming to an end the first version of four years or this version of five which was better which was more success while the first one was more success. Yes that's a hard one because this also also nine to noon bright. You know where we were number. One with rating sports world had never seen that's nine to noon. This version is said to tackle morning drive which is better. I'm GonNa say this version because of this group right here this this of course you'd say that will everybody's here. Calling pays was awesome this group of five characters it wasn't just three. It was five hundred more character absolutely yep. We're relationship more connection and do you include bunker in this version who that's not nice. That's you include bunker in this version. Yeah you have to you have to I mean he's a chapter in it. He's he's like the game of thrones person dies off right but then look at look at the five that endure that last that are here for the finale finale quite a quite a crew it is. I think because of that. I think this version is better. I think it's actually just a better show. I've thought about it. The first version version we remember the first year of the first version is awful. It's not even a good show at all. We've almost got canceled. That's right I almost got fired YEP shout out to lumbergh one and then eventually should've almost definitely shadow and so the first years loss caused second years just okay by the third year. The show is pretty good. It's got two years of being a good show Yep this show. I think I've been more proud of I would I yes ten tell you what the waking up to nine to noon. Significantly better the show in the middle of one and two. Oh actually won the super bowl. What is that called one point five or something that is which is better of version three point? Oh is is coming next week. Broccoli salt the evolution to podcast is will be ending our run. Here's the daily show brock with too much going on with his college football stuff and family stuff even I got a new job here in the building the director programming for all three stations so the end of the run for the daily Brock insult show if you'd like to stay with US please do tax checks podcast to seven ten seven ten text podcast to seven ten seven ten. You'll get a bounce back then right. Yes you get another bounce back. 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Ask you a little bit about your encouragement and discouragement with the SEAHAWKS team so far this year that's coming up at eight o'clock or so last three good football questions as we do every morning owning here at seven forty five brock and we will start with this. Nick Vinet traded yesterday to Pittsburgh for a fifth rounder. Why didn't it work out for Nick Net here in Seattle? I I think the opportunity to get value. I think you would hear that from John Schneider and Pete Carroll and they value fifth round picks in that draft capital getting younger guys that are cost controls for four years very much like Nick Monette was for four years and in that cost control will expire at the end of the season Pittsburgh steelers had need because John Schneider has relationship with just just about everybody in this league and he is a maker not a deal killer they were able to. I think come to fairly agreeable terms. I think that's about right nick finance. It is a fifth round pick in season when the team has a need as you pointed out Mike before you know we are right at the beginning of the show Dixon not got hurt. NICOT was was likely cut likely so the fact that in season you have a team that has a need like the steelers because of Injuries Vance McDonald you have. I think a little bit surplus because you feel like Luke Wilson can step in here as relationship with the quarterback knows the system even though the verbiage is different. There's a lot of the same zone read a little bit of power run a little bit of the same concepts and should be able to be fitting in rather seamlessly may even play in this Sunday you found value in that is always a big deal to that organization. The question number two L. J. Collier's healthy for two games. He's only played in one of the healthy scratch this past weekend. How concerned should would be about L? J. Collier he's fighting. He's he's finding some history here some recent history and that would be the big twelve brother. You're the big twelve not this last draft Graf in to nineteen but in two eighteen now that the big twelve had one defensive player drafted in the first three rounds of the two thousand eighteen draft going this year there were two in the first four rounds Eljay was the highest of which is buddies other defensive end buddy. I believe wanting to late third around that is that is it. You're fighting some history. Now Tom mcshea on with us yesterday said this about eljay colleague. I liked him a lot. I gave him a second around grade. I thought he was one of three or four best players at the senior bowl. Come on in the versatility Aloha Aloha you can play them inside. You can play outside. I thought it was a perfect but when he was picked by Seattle I think yes perfect. I think he's going to be a good fires long as he can stay. It helped me. I think that word there's an important word Mike. I think this is an expectation conversation. I think he can be good player. I don't think he'll ever be an elite player player and I know with the first round pick. That's what you're thinking. That's certainly what Kyle I think with some of the rightfully so some of the perception is man. We were first rounder. It's not about being good. It's about being elites about being one of the star players we talk about like you've got to be a difference maker. I just don't I don't know if his skill set. I don't know if is dynamic enough to be an elite elite elite player. Tom mcshea loved him because versatility and in time he will grow to be able to do a bunch of things missing. The majority of the camp set him back an awful lot. I'd be careful about expectations and maybe not even putting them on him until the second half of the season where I do think you'll feel his versatility more than his playmaking Dr Question Number Three he is Washington's days. We'll be talking huskies coming up at eight thirty as we always do but was who's got a big big big task ahead of them to try to overcome for come what happened on Saturday night and to do it at Utah. How do they do that? Save for the trip to Seattle for the Apple Cup which has been a really tough match up for for coach Leitch I would say this is the worst possible spot they could go to in the conference this weekend. They beaten organ before they've done it. In Eugene. The beavers are pretty bad cow. How would be a tough match up in Berkeley obviously they're flying super high though savored with much softer landon? USC UCLA ARIZON- Arizona State rather be softer landings. You'RE WE'RE GOING IN TO UTAH. You played the late late. Game on Saturday night ended in the early hours of you so you've got a short week. Utah's got an extra day Utah is they are miffed left. they played it pretty tough. A year ago you hit a couple of big big plays and one of the most critical wins for Gardner Menchu and Oiseaux a year ago at home to beat them by a point. This is a violent. It really ticked off team go into their place. which is I think one of the toughest was Seattle an Eugene from an environment it will be packed? They will want blood. This is a a difficult match up for the coupe Saturday today. Scores leads blue forty two so NICK VINET OUT GETS A fifth round pick in return. Luke Wilson makes his triumphant return here to Seattle Luke and it'll be curious to see if like Byron Maxwell coming back here is good for his career because he didn't do much once laughed he didn't do too much in Detroit. Mi was cut this year and Oakland didn't do much there and now you know the idea that you're going to get the same Luke Wilson back that he was five years ago I. I don't know whether that's reasonable. I mean the League League is sort of decided. There's not really a spot for him other than here now in Seattle I mean he's a third tight end right right and he's a guy that could also be moved here in the next three or four weeks you know he wasn't on the roster week one so the deal is in guaranteed and I think this is about a personality fit. I think this is about a guy that loved being here. I mean really did love Pete loves the guys and then. Do you think he's a good block. He's a willing blocker you know he's he's willing to come down and cut off the back side. He's willing to double team. He's able to block. I think a little bit better than Nick. Vanette is and some some of those spy heard the afternoon guys yesterday debating some of the best moments in seahawks history right at the tip is that the beast quake is it the passenger main curse this winning the actual super bowl. There's all these great moments the the two point conversion to Luke Wilson in the NFC championship game is by far the most underrated. It's not the best moment because it it just leads to the eventual end of that but it's pro. It's as crazy as a play gatz right. I mean it's it's almost more more surprising when you see like if you watch the replay of that and then watch the replay of the onside kick I think the Luke Wilson play is more surprising. I mean Roscoe Dixon good player in the League. Pick this weekend. the kid didn't have the ball bounce off of them got cut in his never played another have been in the light so oh you the fact that ha ha Clinton dix watch that moonball and then just totally misplayed it in Louis does up and plucks it. Yes and you don't you don't win without it. It's impossible you lose the game guaranteed. It's really amazing that occurred one of the one of the coolest things I've ever been there to see in person all right Washington Wednesdays. We mentioned coming up here in about a half hour at eight thirty. s some good stuff thereabouts we do Brian Greasy was the call the game and gave me some good bits and takeaways he had from it brock. Were about to be a quarter of the this way through the N._F._L. Season and the seahawks still aren't able to do the one thing they wanna be able to do. Most that's next.

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Best Of The REShow: Hour 2 (11-22-18)

The Rich Eisen Show

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Best Of The REShow: Hour 2 (11-22-18)

"Rich Eisen on demand. Your show your schedule. Fifteen minutes after ball dot com. Check out the casts at richeisenshow dot com. It's hard to be healthy when you don't get breakfast. It's hard to recover from open heart surgery without heat. It's hard to get. Well, when you sleep on the street, it's hard to take care of a baby with untreated, depression, health goes beyond the hospital at providence, Saint Joseph health, we believe health is a human right? See what we are doing to advocate for the vulnerable and invest in health for all at future dot PS. J health dot org. And we have a loss Angeles sports legend to my right right here that I want to get to right off the bat in our number two last night in the NBA season tipped off. It was the thirty fourth season in a row in which this man is the leading score in the history of the NBA thirty four straight years. Now this man has held that title. And there are so many other ways I could introduce this guy. But other than that. I will just say welcome Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. How are you, sir? I'm doing over thanks for having you bet. Absolutely. Also, I should introduce you as author. I have the book right here. Your latest Thome Sherlock, and Microsoft, micro, thin Shirlow my crofton. So my gosh microbes Sherlock I- transpose them incorrectly. Microsoft and Sherlock. This is what number book is this of yours on the or about fourteen or fifteen but that's the second one in the series. It's going to be three this book to okay? And we'll discuss that a little bit as well as your call. Cream Abdul Jabbar collection. There's an auction that's going to be going on. So there's lots to talk about with you. But the first thing I want to hit you as you just sat down you saw my Michigan wolverine helmet on the desk. US before was a Michigan guy, and then proceeded to tell me that coming out of high school you also recruited by Michigan. Crude by Michigan went to see coach Strack. Z that was because he sing a year. They lost it a Bruins in the finals that year. So I visited both Michigan then UCLA, and it was no contest course, visited Michigan. It was March it was freezing visited, but you're though. Two weeks later, I came out to LA from my trip out. No contest. At a weather was essentially what my goodness the weather in the campus and the coeds and every fifth too much. It all worked is what you're saying what John wooden say to you. Do you recall what he said to you? I know I got out. We came out on Friday went over to coach wooden office on on Saturday morning. And we didn't even talk about basketball. We talked about academics said he thought I'd do well in academe in that. That's what he hoped for. And we went to lent went to lunch. So what it Michigan do today? Wine and dine you in any way shape. No, I wanna spend the weekend. They're great school, beautiful campus and everything and coach track with with one full. Cassie was incredible. But, you know, disfigured Cassie show you around the 'cause he started me around because he took me to the movie. Do you remember which movie Cassie can't remember what it was the movie closest to campus because he had a lifetime pass gets the Michigan theater? Russell took I guess luau cinder or were you? I was Lou Elsa in. Yeah. Okay. And interesting you have a new national live stage show coming out called becoming Kareem. What is that? What is that about? Well, it's a it's a live show. And I basically I'm interviewed and I talk about my life the things that for me the book that I just did becoming Kareem is for younger readers, and I talked about the mentors. I had and the people that helped me make some good choices that I made in my life. So I talk about that. And you know, what that process was all about, and how did you become Kareem like the name Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, how did you? Well. The whole idea about your name is it should inspire you to good things. So my name means noble or generous and. Hopefully, I'm inspired to be noble and generous the in living my life that that's that's what it's all about Kareem Abdul-Jabbar here on the rich Eisen show. Okay. Lebron's gonna make his Los Angeles debut on the road on Thursday. And then obviously here in Los Angeles on Saturday. How do you think he will fare here in LA Kareem Abdul-Jabbar LeBron is already done very well here in LA because the people appreciate you know, what he's all about, you know, in terms of his his civic consciousness, and they know is the best player on the planet. So all fans are so excited. I I was mentioning earlier I can't go anywhere without excited fans coming up to me and said how far we're going to go in the playoffs. And and you know, the the excitement and interest is there, and it all has to LeBron coming to town. Now, you I'm sure you've heard the question of legacy in him coming to a spot where there are already so many banners. Yours dozen banners hanging inside of Staples right now does he need to win. Here a championship to be considered a Laker in that regard Kareem. Well, I'm sure that that's what he's hoping for. And that's what management is hoping for. And he still has the skill and leadership qualities to make that happen. So you know, they they they didn't get LeBron. When you know, he's his clock is ticking real loud in. He's not going to be around for for a long time. He has another couple of good years to to give this franchise and hopefully to show them the leadership skills that they need to to make it always to the top. No. I know. I it just the question being is you are obviously on the pantheon of Laker them, and many people think he has the opportunity to do that here. But he has to win a championship to do that. Would you agree with that assessment? Well, maybe that would figure in the decision of whether or not this was a successful transition. But LeBron does and everything to prove, you know. So in that sense. I don't think he can screw up because he. He has nothing to prove he's bringing considerable skills and leadership qualities to this team. The the Lakers will definitely benefit from that Kareem Abdul-Jabbar here on the rich Eisen show studio, and again, I want we'll talk about your book and your collection in a second. I wanna talk Colin Kaepernick with you a little bit here. Sure. Have you spoken with this? I have spoken to calm. The last time you spoke to Colin cat couple of months ago. Okay. What was may? I pry into finding out what your conversation with him was about. I just asked him what he was doing. And it was before the Nike commercial came out. Okay. So he was kinda secretive. But he said, the, you know that he had plans, and the fact that the ownership seemed to collude against him having a job in the NFL that that wasn't going to stop him from doing what he wanted to do with his life. And do you feel that those there are some who say that Colin Kaepernick will one day be viewed? As one of the more important, civil rights figures in sports or this country. Would you agree with that assessment Kareem? I absolutely agree with what he did was important because he showed a new generation of of youth that it's okay to have an opinion. And it's okay to state in long as you do it with some intelligence in class. You have to say what what's on your mind? So Colin used his platform as a professional athlete to bring attention to a very bad problem in our country too. Many black Americans get killed by the police for no good reason. And this is a real issue. This is not something that has been contrived Colin is not trying to dis- disrespect our country our military. He wants country to live up to what the constitution says it's about, you know, equal protection under the law and that hasn't happened and tragically for black Americans. It ends up with too many black Americans did well, it seems that Jim Brown who you have obviously a history being at the forefront of these issues with way back in the day thinks that Colin and others should not be kneeling during the national anthem to make this point where do you stand on that subject? Well, you know, I think that's a matter of opinion calling us. The attention. Nettie got to make a very serious statement. So it wasn't completely failure. He he got people's attention. And they understand what he was talking about so much. So that they tried to change the subject. So Colin knew what he was doing. And you know, I don't feel that he he screwed up at at all he he had to take the chance that they would come down on them like that. But as far as he's concerned, it was worth it. Do you speak to Jim Brown at all? I'm spoken to Jim Brown couple months, but I do speak to. Okay, do did you speak to him after he was in the Oval Office with Connie, then I guess you hadn't if you know, what did you think of that Corinne was kind of bizarre. You know, I'm sure that you probably wanted to get out of there when Kenya was doing his little accuracy, you know. And I'm just seeing a photograph here of you. Muhammad Ali and and Bill Russell shaves of yesteryear Brown. What was that? What was the circumstances around this photograph that was the Cleveland summit that was the attempt by Jim Brown and Bill Russell to get a number of athletes together to see if we can help Mohammed Ali deal with the issues. He had with the federal government over refusing to go to Phnom. So we wanted to talk to Ali and find out where is head was and see if we could could help them deal with it in a way where they didn't come down on him so hard, but you know, within ten or fifteen minutes, we realized that he was totally comfortable with what he was doing any. He didn't care if they, you know, censored him the way they did he had a point to make. And he made it what do you think? All he would have thought of what's going on with cabinet right now curry sure, Ali would have understood with capital is doing and been one hundred percents of. Them Kareem Abdul-Jabbar here on the rich Eisen show. Okay. Let's get to the October legends Kareem Abdul Jabbar collection, featuring one hundred forty six lots of your memorabilia that is going to be available right now, golden auctions G G O D G O L D. I N auctions dot com now through October twenty seventh. I have a couple of items right here. A few trinkets. I'm holding in my hand game used from the eighty six eighty seven season, and you autographed the Lakers home jersey with shorts right here. We have a number of those couple of all right now. Here's another one. I'm owning up right here game used Lakers jersey from nineteen eighty six. So you would say you save these and user just been sitting around your garage, and you're sitting around and my mom had a lot of stuff because. My my mom lived in queens. Right. And when I win things from the NBA, they'd send it to my mom's house in queens. I told him to do that. So my mom had a whole Feser trove in the basement there of rings in uniforms and very children when when you set a record or you had something they said just send it to your mom's place in queens. Right. So and then my mom moved out to Los Angeles in eighty five she and my dad, and I inherited all the stuff in the it was a lot of stuff. And so now you want to I want to use it in the right way of the significant proportion of the proceeds will go for my. For my camp where I I send kids from the Elliot unified school district. So that they can learn about stem subjects it's it's been a really good program. We have like four or five year waiting list, and we need money for buses and to pay the teachers, and you know, all the people that that help us do this. I mean, this is amazing rock when you have no idea go, I'll send it over to you in a second that just seeing it up and these are to these championship rings super wings as my UCLA ring. Is about three NC toy championships. And then that other one you have there. I think it's nine hundred eighty two why do you want to sell these? They don't have any sentimental value for you to just have lots of sentimental value. Okay. But I I don't have twelve fingers. You know? Great answer. Twelve fingers. Great. Okay. Yeah. If the twelve fingers you'd be able to wear them all this is amazing. So again, golden auctions dot com for that. And. All the people. You know, they want to have a piece of my history. They can they can come and bid the the auction star stops October twenty seventh. Okay. And then Microsoft and Sherlock is your latest Thome. Yes. It's I've written about the backstory of Microsoft home. He's sherlock's older and smarter brother. And I tried to talk about his back story, you know, in Arthur Conan Doyle's canon of work. He's only mentioned a couple of times about five or six times. Just have no idea of who. He is a why he is who is so I decided to backtrack a couple of years in and talk about my cough. And it's very well. When did you first get into Sherlock, Holmes, and my Kroft homes? He's kid or when I was a kid. I used to watch the the series from England with the basil. Rathbone? Sure, they show it on Saturdays Sherlock Holmes theater with the hat here were heading right. And then more recently. But what happened was? My second year in high school, we've read Arthur Conan Doyle in that. That's the first time. I realized that he wasn't that. Sure combs was not actually a real person up to that point. I thought he actually was a real person a lot of people do. In fact, even today Sherlock comb still gets mail from around the world. Said to address in London at Baker street, and they get to twenty one Baker suite. They have a museum there. Sure. Wow. And so do you like the BBC series the BBC series is great because it really shows what Sherlock would be like in twenty first century in. And I think that's great and elementaries pretty good too. Yeah. Yeah. That's another one absolutely one before let you go. I do have to ask you a couple of pop culture questions if you know. Okay. How'd you get involved with airplane the move airplane, these Zuko brothers from Wisconsin? And they'd wanted Pete Rose to play the role that I played, but the shot that they shot the movie during the summer and Pete was playing so since they took the brothers from whitefish bay, Wisconsin. They said maybe cream will do it. And they got in touch with me. I said, yeah. I'll do it. Do it. Yeah. Did you come up with the names of Walton and linear? No, no. That was the writers. Yeah. Okay. And where is the jersey that you wore in that? Dragged up the aisle 'cause I doubt on that bid on that jersey for sure I have no idea. That's yeah. We should find that. When I would look that one. And so what was that a like on the set? It was so much fun. You know, it's kinda hard to believe I'm going to to work every morning, and I'm sitting next to Peter graves. You know, I I used to watch mission impossible. Here. I am sitting next to him every morning. Good morning and stuff this crazy. But it was fun. I a lot of fun doing it. Leslie Nielsen was out of his mind. You know, what you mean? He was out of his mind. He's crazy many had he had this little canned that if he manipulated it sounded like flatulence, right? See Whoopie cushion, actually, come up to start talking to you. And then start working Ken. And the people would be like what let's go. And if you didn't know he'd take he he'd messed with your head. Leslie was crazy, man. Are you man? That's that's just an all time. Great. I every time. I see it. It still makes me laugh. And then how did you meet Bruce Lee? How did you meet him? I met Bruce Lee when I was starting my junior year at UCLA, I started studying martial arts, and formerly and I wanted to continue doing that. So I asked a friend over at black belt magazine who I could study Whitney said, maybe one study with Bruce. And that's what suggestion he just referred me over to Bruce. I call them. He said, yeah. Come on over to the house. Thank you went over to his house. And we talked about it and had a great way of convincingly because he wanted to know if I could punch and kick righties, so he got behind a bag the heavy bag and had punch and kick. It said, okay. So I thought he was gonna show me how he punched in king. But instead he had his wife come out his wife is wife who ways maybe a hundred twenty one hundred twenty five pounds, and he had me brace myself against the heavy bag, and she kicked it and the force that she put through the bag knocked my body away. From a said, I wanna know how to do that. And that was that I started studying with them, and we were from friends from that time until he pass away until he passed away. What was the height difference between you and him and Bruce Lee defect? Oh, foot and a half. I mean, just we're looking at the footage of eight. Yeah. You know and wearing the shades at your idea whose idea. Just made me look villainous. I'm the bad guy. I have to die. So they made me look mysterious in villainous as you're knocking him to the floor would my dirty feet and. What do you think of when you see this stuff? Well, it makes remember Bruce. You know, that's the last time. I saw him was when we did this film. So it really. It's an style. Dick, in a way that the you know, I I get kind of misty because he was such a good guy. He's a good friend of yours was good guy. And just you know, I used to babysit for a son, and you know. Whole we had a lot of history Kareem Abdul-Jabbar here on the rich Eisen show. Are you going to the first game? The or of course. Yeah. I'll be there. The Lakers how to put on a show don't they? I mean, they really know how to put out a long time ago. They certainly did. What do you think? Jerry Buss would think of the brand in here. Oh, he'd be he'd be ecstatic. I mean, he looked up getting magic. And now, you know, having the the good fortune to sign the Braun LeBron come into bring all of that that he brings his it's great. It's great for the city. And I it's great for Lakers. Great kareem. Thanks for coming on here. You're welcome here. Anytime I always enjoy our chats. Thank you so much keep writing books, if that's if that's what you wanna keep doing come on the show to promote it, I'm I'm all here. Microsoft and Sherlock Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is latest book right there, golden auctions, the October legends Kareem Abdul-Jabbar collection. I have championship rings right here. I've got signed jerseys and shorts right over there. Go to golden auctions dot com right now through October twenty seventh and go to becoming Kareem dot com for tour dates and more info see Kareem live good to see did. I get it all down. You got it. All thank you so much. You bet Kareem Abdul-Jabbar K A J thirty three on Twitter. If you've been thinking about getting simply safe home security system, but have been waiting for the holidays when all the tech deals come out. You've made a smart move because right now, I can get you a great deal on simply safe. All you gotta do is. If you go to SimpliSafe dot com slash is in you'll get twenty five percent off any new system. 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So when you see your character? Blossom if you will in a way the way that it does it's kind of a license to steal. I mean parts like this for me come around maybe once every ten years or fifteen years, and it's just an individual who's really damaged. Has a big wall of money around him and his really not responsible to anybody or anything and all these people anything can come out of their mouths because there's no repercussions. You know, they they marched to a different set of rules or none at all. Not at all. When the familiar bonds don't appear to be the there's not much hug it out. You're not, you know, everybody wants daddy's love it's just not coming around. You know, it's not it's not readily available. So I just wanted to point that out because I don't wanna make it seem like you're you're a damaged individual because you're a Browns fan. Deep down inside Allen, right? You're going in Cleveland. I was born in Cleveland when I was a boy I used to watch the Browns with my dad, it was that we did together. And I told you earlier that we would be Browns fans until they choked. And then we would become Pittsburgh Vance at that point. Because you know, there was the days of Pittsburgh and Dallas back then right about now to hear that that that that normally wouldn't be you know, except. -able? But I guess, you know, obviously back then when you're rooting for a team like Cleveland, and but we had relatives in Pittsburgh. You know, something we could it's so it's it's it's it is close. I mean, that's what you flew into this this past. Pittsburgh try try to Bryant getting to the hall of fame. We fame every year. They'll good canton and anytime somebody from the Pittsburgh area gets inducted. You see if Jim Kelly or when Montana went in, and obviously, you know, Nemeth those guys from the Pittsburgh area. You can see a large Pittsburgh contingent town contingent. Yeah. So dry river people. So you you're sort of Brown slash Steeler fan. Yeah. That wasn't my how many people just automatically think. You're a Red Wings fan based on your character for all ask about that. That was something that Hughes made up that was some back story about Cameron. He just figured that the relationship with the father was so bad that he had a really good relationship with his grandfather who never showed up in the picture lived in Detroit went to games with the grandfather. And that's why he wore that jersey said nothing to do with. If you had a choice. Did they give you a choice at all? I know. No, no, no, no, no. I wasn't. Celtic wardrobes you have chosen LeBron's jersey. If you're probably on readiness Redwings, cooler, okay, that's a sweater say in hockey. So do people assume you're a cubs fan because of that film? I am okay. Because I went to the university of Illinois and right after school and moved up to Chicago. And then this is back in the days when there were no lights in really feel and everything was like a picnic you had to go in the afternoon, and you sat in the bleachers and eight smokey links and watch the Cubbies and right? Yeah. And so the up and down and finally the the eventual triumph I was in Chicago is working on his show called the exorcist. We are in Chicago couple years ago when they when they won. And and what was that? I've million people. It's I don't know where they came from from everywhere from everywhere from everywhere and completely civil. I mean, it was just a great celebration of baseball in love. So you're not a Red Wings fan. But you are in fact, a cubs fan true. Love us have been great. For you to be in town for something like that to to happen for you were filming we were filming. And we would they were you know, the crew was watching while we were filming and they'd be like. Could make any noise. And then cutting and everybody go while. Yeah. Yeah. Man. I mean that that that is truly you know, once in a lifetime situation. It's interesting that you call succession, a once every ten fifteen years role for you. I mean. Pretty icon stuff here. Alan. I mean, I'm I've been lucky. Yeah. Really lucky? Yeah. Being on that bus in speed. That was fun says a fun gig. Did you ever come across Dennis hopper? Because obviously wasn't on the boss. No. I didn't. I saw him once at the premiere party, and he really didn't know who I was. He he went like. You know, he didn't know. No. That was a fun job the one oh five freeway had just been completed right here right here, but had not yet been opened. So we made a deal with the state that FOX pictures made a deal that was our back lot for six weeks. And we had about a half a dozen different buses different tricks. And it was just, you know. So you broken the one oh five freeway. Yeah. We did. Yeah. You gave it a dry run with many buses Reeves. Yeah. On the one. Oh five. Yeah. Many bosses. What was it like on the set with John Hughes for you? He, you know, he was a complicated guy. He was he was sort of genius. I had met him once in Chicago a couple years before fair spirit. He was going to do the breakfast club is an indie, and I went in and I read for him on that. And then he met Molly ringwald on that picture on that during that time, and he wrote sixteen candles for her over weekend over a weekend like that. And then so then I did this play in New York with Matthew Broderick, and he was offered ferris bueller. And addition for the casting people, and I went back and I read four John with Matthew. So I already knew John little bit Matthew in our already friends, and it was just a good bit of luck from Biloxi blues of his yet. And so interesting what part did you read for in the breakfast club bender? It was I was not right for it at all the judge just Nelson. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you were you just not enough of a of a bad guy that were saying the, you know, I kind of have that face. You know what I'm saying? What I'm saying? I don't I don't intimidate anybody. You're more Cameron than I don't intimidate my kids. Nobody I know. I I had Alan I have one one shot at being a reality TV host. Yeah. Years ago and the show required me to be mysterious one and done. I don't know how you know. What? I mean, like, I'm not no mystery that. Yeah. So I have a couple of questions from your. I m d as well as internet. We usually do here with a celebrity guests celebrity true or false here on the rich Eisen show. Keeping it real. Spanned out ballet is essentially from that era. That we're talking about first question for you, sir. You were twenty nine years old when you were filming Buehler's day off to her. This is true. You're you're twenty nine years old will one I was actually nineteen. I wasn't nineteen. I looked like a fetus, so. Kinda all just progressed. Yeah. I'm knocking on Geezer whose right now. It's twenty nine. Yeah. I would never have guessed that Broderick was twenty five the only one that was really a teenager was Mia. Sara who had just turned eighteen maybe she was nineteen, but she was actually a teenager the rest of we're all in our twenties. And when the the publicity laid from paramount found out hold what she almost joked on her own spit jet. Right. Yeah. Because she she was like, oh, we'll tell people you're twenty five. That's okay because Matthews twenty five. That's okay. Okay. Are you scared? So, you know on tiger beat magazine for me. It's all worked out, you know, when I would be doing highlights with my with my compadres, Steve marriage. Dion Sanders on the NFL network whenever Adrian Peterson carried the ball. We would go Peterson. Al-majd to you voice where you doing when you were talking in first day off. Okay. Matt United done this playbook, cheap losing directed by this wonderful guy who's since passed away. Gene, Saks, he's sixty five then, and we drove him crazy 'cause we were always screwing around we've cutting up and he gets so mad at us. He refrained we're going to the heart attack red in the face and say, I don't believe it soldiers. I don't believe you can go die in Italy. You know? And so he said to me, I need a voice. Gimme a dad voice north or -tarian voice. Right. And so I didn't tell Matthew what I was going to do because Matthew was constantly walking around backstage imitating, gene. So that was me imitating, Matthew imitating, gene. And I just sprung it on him just to see if I get a laugh out of him, you know, and then it worked Rooney. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did you add live the pardon? My French don't do the whole line here. But did you add that the pardon my French, you know Hughes? This is a fun way to work when he was very confident. It's the same way we work on succession. You do it as scripted once. And then they'll say, we have some other lines you want to try this try these, and you know, an additional takes. And then usually there's one take where they say make it up. Just give us whatever, you know. So so, yeah, he's say, pardon, my French call may, you know, I mean. On my friend. Yeah. You know, show shouting lines at me, you know, it's a fun way to work. It's amazing thought second true or false liberty true or false here for for Allen. The Ferrari twenty five GT California that your characters dad owned was not actually a Ferrari in real life to reform. That's true. They were crap they were kit cars because we couldn't at that time that car if anybody had wanted to rent it to us, and this is such a long time ago. It was probably worth about four hundred thousand dollars, then K. And so we couldn't even I have to find somebody that's willing to rent it to you. Right. And then the insurance just to keep it still movie set was Astra nominal. So they said we're never going to be able to afford this. So they had some fiberglass replica cars made they were put on Mustang chassis, and they they gave us a lot of trouble. There's one scene where we go to collect the car after we've had our big day. And the guys bring the car down in the parking garage that turned the car off we have a little bit of dialogue. And we go to start it up and take off sixteen takes because when it would come down. They turn it off and get in the car. Not going anywhere. You know? And it drove everybody crazy. So and we sent the there were three. There was one that was souped up for the stunt guys. There was the one that we used and it was the one that was just a shell that we sent out the window. And when we did that the whole crew just arrived in cheers. Yeah. You know enough last one for you Amelia, Estevez was originally offered the role of Cameron is that true. This is true. And I think they wanted Anthony Michael hall to play Farris, but both of those guys had done. Well, Mike, Anthony, Michael hall. He'd done maybe four movies with Hughes and then points not bunch. He wanted to move on. And I think Amelia was offered repo, man. Remember that picture horse? Yeah. And so they wanted to do different things. And so then they picked Broderick, and then I wrote his cO tails, well as a twenty picture is a twenty nine year old and then now succession, Allen rock. What is it like working with Brian Cox? I'm such a big fan of his man. I mean, everybody on. This show. Is incredibly funny incredibly talented. They're all sweethearts, which is great because we're a bunch of bastards even Kieran Culkin. Yeah. I mean. Yeah. Could not be more. No, he's he's a sociopath on the show. Right. But just funny and lovable which balances everything out, you know, and adds a little bit of that humanity seeps through all the wretchedness. So maybe at some you know, we're complaining at the beginning of the season. There's nobody that's likable nobody to root for, but maybe after a while with sort of will grow on people, you know, but Brian Cox, I love him. He's world-class actor he's incredibly generous. And I find this with with people that are very top of sort of the heap. They tend to be very generous and all about the storytelling. They're just there because they love to do what they do. And that's all it is just telling stories, you know, and no drama the drama is in front of the camera. It's not off stage, which is the way you want. It of course, an HBO succession again the first seasons. Already done airing on H B O, but you can catch it on HBO now HBO go tunes. Google play other retailers already renewed for second season. Congratulations. Thanks, buddy. You got Allan Rock here. On the rich Eisen show. The hit podcast zan's world found a new home on podcast one gun Linnea for the. Traveller author and alcohol. 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We need right now. Mark wahlberg. Bruce, burn excited family now. Play PT thirteen. Welcome back to the rich Eisen show. This man is multi-talented to say, the least odyssey and greatest hits. Still greatest hits still is going to be released on October second enjoyed his work for all those years as Bo Duke on dukes of hazzard smallville, Dr Quinn medicine woman and now dancing with our season. Twenty-seven good to see you. John mazing amazing. Thank you could be. I just I can't believe I'm dumbstruck right now. I did not know what we just discussed in the television. Only segment the generally. Yes, guarantee owned by Bubba Watson. Yeah. Masters winner multiple crazy in the year. He wanted he had just bought that car, and he had it in the parking lot. So he pulled the clubs out of the unless somebody brought him. But I think by nobody. So he's the kind of guy that would have pulled the clubs out of the trunk of generally gone won the masters, and you know, thrown his throne his climb in the window through the green jacket in the backseat and took off yelling is that. How? Is that how you met because you'd purchase the Carl there? It is the car and that is the number of the oh one not the oh one year that but the first car we had right? And he wanted me to sign it for him out in Scottsdale. Okay. And I said I'll sign it. But I have to play around golf with you. So he brought me out, and I signed the car we played around of golf, which was just unbelievable and yeah. And he's had the Carver since I think, it's great. So you're player. Right. You played off. I am. And I you know, I wanna play golf well so badly. Great way to put it. Yeah. Is a great way to put it to regrets in life one that I didn't start golf sooner in one that. I started golf at all. Just kick my. But it does it really just tests. I was talking to Marcus whereabout because DeMarcus is dancing with the stars. And we think that the hardest that the reason why golf is so hard in. Why may be a happy Gilmore got it. Right. Is that happy Gilmore turn it into a reaction because when you play ping pong you're reacting when you're out window and talked to DeMarcus when you're out there playing football. You are reacting to a lot of things enter your training, and your physicality is coming into it in your sense of survival and want to kill somebody is all in there. But we've got off. It's just sitting there and it saying, dude, I'm sitting here hit me. Anyway, you want how ever hard you want? And I'm just sitting here. We and it it takes the sports the physicality out of it. Does it kind of mocks you in a way messes with your? That's where the golf ball says the golf ball could speak. It would say what you got. We did we had once we had Pete Rose on on a great love Pete Rose. Also talked about how he doesn't think golf is that difficult. I'm like, what are you talking about? He goes the ball's not moving. He goes, I outta hit a ball. I hit a moving. That's right. That's right. I know what he said. Yeah. He goes I had no idea where it was coming from. How is coming at me fast. Yeah. But it's it's fast, twitch muscles and all sorts of stuff that come into play. Survival comes into play. Somebody's throwing a ball a hundred miles an hour. And you're gonna wanna hit it writer to get it away. Yeah. But golf is tough because it's you're sitting there. So what's tough for golfer? Dancing dancing is like is like trying to learn thousand different golf strokes. Yeah. So I think I think dancing with the golfing stars would be a great idea. Now, you're really do. I because it's it's hard. You've got to think about where you're left or your or. That's why I'm not very good at it where you're right pinky is. And you're left little toe is so that Len doesn't call in where your elbows are sure depending that was a FOX trot, and depending upon the dance it's it's all about like a golf swing. If your head is in the wrong place. Then your feet are in the wrong place, and the balls you're gonna slide. The ball. I don't know. If you saw Phil Mickelson's recent commercial for his new button-down golf shirt is dress shirt button down long sleeve golf shirt. But he might have already started piloting dancing with the golf stars. He has he did some dance moves and a leg kick. Did he really it was something, you know? It's not the old joke about the golf shirt where you you tie you tie string around your man parts and to your button to keep your damn head down. No. Right. He goes. Wow. What do you think the radio? The house. I it. Okay. Radio audience. Phil mickelson. Don't worry. Oh, you've seen this guy. Wow. Okay. I've never seen. No, no, no longer. Those moves. Oh, come on. Really how how fast would he be voted off dancing with the Gulf snow? I think he did. Well, that was doing the worm. There's no way that we doing the words. Floss Phil show me the floss, so John Schneider here. Now, you realize that you are not the only John Schneider on by do. Correct. I do realize that. Yes. And are we are we on radio? We are on radio. Then you know, you're a Michigan guy. So I'm going to have to tell you. I think the two most underrated running backs to every play at Michigan in my opinion. You come correct, Jamie Morris, and Tim whose name I can hardly pronounce really to. Really to be Aqaba. Well done right. And. Yeah. So what do you think about that you agree with that? No, it's John. These are not not just on just since we're on radio. This is just coming to my mind. What else is on your mind? What else is on my mind is I'm wondering. Did bow my namesake sham Boeckler. Yeah. Did he actually attend Michigan? He did not. He went to the you went to Miami to Miami of Ohio, which is also referred to as the cradle of coaches Ingo. We have a winner we have a winner. Can you name any other famous Miami, Ohio coaches besides Bo? Can I phone a friend on this phone, a friend phone me list? So hold on. I want to phone a friend right now. John Schneider general manager of the Seattle Seahawks. You're on the phone line right now. What's happening guys? How are you buddy? Everything's good. How you doing? I'm trying to do you proud here. I know you gotta rip the names. Well, Woody Hayes. Of course. I mean, come on. I happen to be watching television today. Woody clock that kid is that right? Yeah. Yeah. I I was you being on the show. John don't don't worry web. How about what about Gary, Gary Moeller, Gary Moeller? So do you John Peter of Liam I know I need to do this properly football, John Schneider? How do you know, how do, you know, actor Jonah Seahawks general manager John Schneider here on the phone right now? Yes. John mutual friend agent aimed Brad tests. Yup. And I was you know, that was that kid tonight seven o'clock, you know, sitting in the family room couldn't wait for him on. That's my guy. I think it's so great John. And I have this thing called talk Walker alerts. Okay. And I kept that's how I learned so much about you, John because I my name would kept popping up. And I'm thinking what have I done to get all this press? Was it me? No, it was you. It was you. So hopefully, you got some of my press, at least, it's you know, it's woken you up in the middle of the night. You thought oh, what wonderful thing done? Now. Did you know you're on dancing with the stars? Who's who's who's talking? About me. Right. That's right. Exactly. So we alert each other. Now, John Schneider of the Seahawks. Anybody as anybody ever thought that you were actually the John honor to my right had ever happened to you? Actually when I started the league checking into hotels and stuff like that. You know, you know, the courtyards and that sort of stuff at schools going to school, call people would be like, you're not related to the real the real John Schneider. Wow. Wow. Wow. About it. But more people will be like, hey, okay. If I you know, you know, if I call you Bo a huge. Oh my gosh. I love that. I love that. By did. I had some people think I was used. I think I took up like you are Super Bowl architect is that what you're they thought. It was interesting. What people think it's just it's interesting because you know, everything is they read it. I think it's true now. So there's another John Schneider to that's that's friend. What I don't know if you know this other John Schneider. Not John Schneider. John his name is oddly enough, John Schneider, and he is rob Schneider's brother, really, and my brother's name and his friends call him, rob. So we've got the John Schneider trio. I think I do you sing John? Know darn well, you can hold a sheet music up, and we'll sing. It's so great to talk to you. Next time. I get up there. We're going to do a concert tour. So when I get up there. Hopefully, we'll be able to actually connect only like Facebook friends, and and but you guys text into Texas morning. I said give me some information and make me sound smart on the information football, John Schneider. John thanks to a two, and he said spell just pronounce it just like like, you would read a choice been on John Schneider. He didn't say they're either. No, I didn't void that one. The voided that I've been called Snyder for I'm gonna south. So I've been called Snyder a lot. So you know, I try to avoid the multi Salah bec- names. Not at not NY. Exactly. It's schneider. Thank you very much. John Schneider up in the Pacific northwest next for call in. I had a hook this up. Just johnstone. Great your go to guy John goes. How to do that? I've always wanted to do that got him right there. That's how I knew you should see. Why said you're going to be surprised? Yeah. I said make me look smart. I wanna do start bench cut with you. If you don't. Okay. A little little Tiger Woods. Oh, sure. We can hit that to John Schneider here on the rich Eisen show. Tide. Be quiet or cut up. Okay. So we give you three choices. You must start one. You must bench one. You must cut one. Okay. These are these can be difficult. One can't play. You don't mean to cut one? No. He's a whole different thing where I came out about. Okay. Only one place ones. Bench and one is cut. Here we go. John schneider. Start bench cut the best Duke out there. Currently John Elway whose nickname is the Duke the football whose nickname is the Duke. There's it's called the do because of Wellington. Mara's nickname was Duke back in the day. The owner of the giants or Duke basketball, which one's the best Duke out there. Oh, okay. You start LA? I start Elway. Bench the football or basketball. Eventually I'd venture the basketball. Okay. And then you cut the football out. Yeah. Football's out golfer. I'm a golfer. Well, we give give to football with Elway. And we, you know, we we share it. I understand football next one up for John Schneider start bench cut, most iconic eighties automobile who the general Lee kit from nightrider or the DeLorean from back to the future. Well, you start the general Lee. Okay. You cut kit and you bench the DeLorean. Why are we cutting kid is because it's a wannabe car. You could actually get that car. Generally was ready an old car when we started a DeLorean had something I knew John DeLorean. So you had to add some things to make the back to the future car the kit car was really kind of appropriately named kit car. This is not a John Schneider Hasselhoff feud that I just no, no, no, no, no. No, he wouldn't stand a chance that would be. All right last one for you. Johnny. Start start bench cut. Okay. That's eighties villain war cowboy hat JR. Ewing from Dallas office, hog from dukes of hazzard or Buford. T Justice from smokey with us tell you what I Pol job is to Larry. Uh-huh. So I would start view for t- Justice. I would venture boss hog. And I'd have to cut JR you. Oh, yeah. I mentioned JR Ewing a lot because I do show called the haves and have nots Perry show, the haves and have nots, and I play a guy that makes JR Ewing. Look like a choirboy that saying, yeah. Yeah. I used to say like a Catholic priest, but I don't say that anymore because. Yes, you shouldn't say that. But I I play I play a really nasty terrible guy on this show. And I love every minute of it loved Larry Hagman, but one of the nicest most wonderful people I've never worked. Well, he was a doll a bunch of like up fronts seals. But the big I dream of Jeannie fan. I love Larry Hagman and Sorrell Booke from buffalo. New York was a consummate actor spoke seven different languages, you laid boss Hogg. So he spent seven to who's an amazing which language did he use with boss? Hong he made that up. Actually, he did he tell you. Why boss Hogg pronounce words say dollars? He would say Cimoli ins, and he was he says that word because he grew up here is parents were from such and such and he went to school block. So he was he was I would say a consummate wordsmith, and a what if you study that linguistics major? Yes. So he was he was delightful. And my gosh, I grew up. I love the honeymooners. And I love the Jackie Gleason show and win. I was actually climbed the fence and S my way onto the set of smoking the bandit come on spend a day with Jackie Gleason what? Yeah. Yup. I spent I was sixteen years old. I spent the day with Jackie Gleason. There was a kid beside him. With a red. Was it radio flier shirt with a keg in it? And Jackie would just he would be talking about stuff because I'm from mount Kisco. And I think Jackie was from like scarsdale, we're both from Westchester county. So we had that in common, and he just would hold the whole the mug out the kid would feel fill the mug up. And he just. Yeah. Yeah. It was. On the set of spoke in the band. Yes. And I'm in the very end of it. If if the very end credits when they they freeze frame Sally says good, no hard feelings junior. And then the car runs off in the the Cadillac comes up. They freeze frame a tire hits this big goofy. Looking kid with a cowboy hat in the shins, and that's me at the end. So I'm actually in it until the through the whole credit role. But I got a free lunch. What? Yes. Oh, thank you. I love that. All right before we go. You know, you wanna give me your golfing mount Rushmore? Tiger said it was snee- homes to see I my theory is that this whole time tiger has sucked that what he's been doing. He's been putting balls in the water intentionally. He's been aiming for the lily pad. So actually what he's been doing is. He's been playing the best golf he's ever played. But dope is that what you're saying? Well, but you can't you cannot stage a comeback unless you've gone away. So he stays a comeback. He was very he was very unusual. Tiger was he was so humble the other day, and he should've waited a month. Or so somebody else should have said that that's he should not have said that that is the most tin foil sports, take I've heard in quite some time. I'm not sure what that means in for the very conspiracy theorist right there like a tin foil on it would be like like Elway not being able to throw. I mean, let's you cut his arm off than maybe can't throw a football. So what's your who's your mount Rushmore John Schneider golfing around mount Rushmore if you had to put four golfers. Well, I'd put him in there. I just wouldn't. I wouldn't have put. Okay me in there. If I were him because people were just talking about sure, this is an entirely different. Tiger woods. He so appreciative. He's so friendly. He so thankful he's so humble. He's changed man. He just he just he just threw that out with both hands. He did he did. And he didn't even. N- grin after it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because he absolately beyond question. He deserves to be there. Absolutely. With who? But you do not do not when you win the humility award, and you do not wear it. Love that. That's a great one. Still released on October second. Yes Schneider studios dot com or John Schneider studios on Facebook Alicia, we make movies we made seven films since we met we've released two. We'll we'll release six sixty two songs this year for Guinness Book of world records, and they're all great. They're all singles each and everyone. I'm so John Schneider studios dot com that I said yet John Schneider studios dot com. Well done attic. Yon underscore Schneider. Dancing and dancing with the stars season premiere by the two hour special Monday and Tuesday every single Monday and Tuesday at eight eastern time. Yes, you go Johnston by golly. I'm gonna try my hardest. Gotta take out d where you gotta take out the markets. All my at the very least. That's very I don't know van is a force Saint take him down. No, no, no boy. He is what a what a sweetheart. He is. He wanted a sweetheart. He's a hall of Famer and every in every sense and his mom was there on Monday night, which was so great. So so great. Well, don't. Don't let that full you. They'll take. No, no, no, no. I don't even he might have Castro. It might not even really been his mom. You know, John, I'm not I'm not above that spiracy taken his way out the door. Good to see what people are following you. Maybe they are. 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Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum

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John Schneider

"You're listening to inside of you with Michael. Rosenbaum great guests coming up. He's never been the show I've worked with them. You know, Smallville we'll get into that but some some important stuff like to share with you a little personal it's been a crazy week. My Dog Irv went to the hospital. I woke up he was fine the night before. A couple of nights ago you're on, you know the story and he woke up and he was able to what he was limping a little bit and barely moving and I was like. Well. You know he has leg problems because he's old and all this stuff. So I thought maybe slept on it wrong. Certainly, I wake up and limp around Stub, my toe took him up to pee and poop and all that stuff and. That thus began the downfall. and down. He just lied next to the dining room table and. I said something's wrong wasn't eating. And then I put these booties on them right. So I took off the booty. I know his Paul was twice the size of the other. and. There was a little poss. And I said he's got infection and he felt really warm and I'm not a doctor but I was like I've got to go to the hospital I called up my friend Rob. Thankfully, it was on a Sunday. and. he raced over, he thought it wasn't going to be a big deal when he saw or if I could see the shock in his face because he knew I was freaking out we carried earth he was limp I'm talking Jello like this dog was not moving and I was like I have to hurry. We carry them in the car. He defecated all over us, I mean there was shit everywhere. I did the best I could but I was on the move We'll clean that problem later we drove to the hospital I said Rob Listen Man Trust me, but I'm good I'm going through a stop. Light. And I went through every stop light to the hospital. Got Him there. They came out and I was trying to keep it together and I was like them away keeping awake his tongue was hanging out of his mouth. I knew like Oh my God. This is I lose my dog I don't know if I could deal with this. And I took him there and I. You know you're not supposed to go in the place opened hey, my dog is dying. Can someone please Get, a stretcher I really need help and they raced out there that people access hospital in Culver City were enormous and put him on a stretcher. And I went in with them just petting him anybody. It's alright. Looking at him going Oh my God is this last lunacy my dog. And he went in and I went around the corner where rob? Rob Wasn't and I just bawled just let it out man and I was I just really raw emotions. have had them for a long time the only person I've lived with? and. We stayed there for a couple of hours and we ordered food in the parking lot rob was a good friend and is a good friend and. The doctor called and said, Hey, is temperatures down a little bit were running Antibiotics through him fluids through him. and. Then I finally went home and they said he's definitely staying the night in hospital and I finally got a call and I'm calling them. Incessantly just like you know and. I. Mean. That's what you do. I think. You, know I didn't feel bad about doing it but. I wasn't hearing back and I called because they were. You know they're busy they're. Seeing other dogs going there. It's a hospital. You know things are happening and I'm like well, either he's just not that bad hoping in the doctor called me. And said, Hey, his temperatures gone down fluids. He's he actually went he stood up. And he started slowly getting better. I kept him there for another night. went to see in the next day kept in their another night took him home and I Call Jess, my friend jazz she just came over and she's been helping and just cleaning it his his you know he had an abscess. So if your dog starts crapping or not eating or you feel as head dogs have a higher temperature. So his was like a one zero six I think. And man I thought GONNA lose him. So I was. Get a little emotional talking about this but the good news is he's he's he's much better. He's walking around. He's taking tons of pills, the regiment he's on and then of course. Little. Bitch. Blanche. My puppy she's She's got these bumps on her back. I'm like what the faulk and she had an infection. It wasn't like a bad infection, but she had to be antibiotics took her. So it's just been I probably been the fifteen to twenty vets hostels PT's in the last three weeks and. I call my friend Tom and Benin and there, Hey, what's up and I was just like. I'm just I'm overwhelmed and I. I, usually don't. Talk about me being overwhelmed unless I'm talking to my. Listeners my patrons or you, but it's funny my personal life I don't really something I don't allow WanNa burn people everyone's going through their own ship but I was really in a tough place and. I'm just I'm just thankful that I have I. Get to see him again and I, get to hang out with him and I know he's old my friend Harlan Funny Story Harley you know from Something about Mary Tripton GRANDPA's cough medicine argued botic dumb and dumber. He was something about Mary Marya Saudi boys with me good friend and he and every time something happens if he always leaves a message. Hey, bottom. So Saria. Maybe it's time to say goodbye you know maybe put him to sleep or would I am I harland? He has an infection. Last time. You know he's he he went blind maybe it's time. No, it's not. So I, make this joke. Now I I I send messages like Hey Earth stubbed his toe. So I'm thinking about putting his body I was just saying you know he's old I'm like, yeah. But just because he's old, you don't some old guy says, you know all of a sudden got. I fell you know put him to sleep. Anyway. Thanks man I good friends everybody It's too hard I suggest if anything ever happens to you guys in inevitably it will send an email to all of your loved ones at the same time and just say I will keep you updated. I'm not gonNA respond to messages because it's too much and so I just sent a picture sent little things and everybody was really supportive and herbs doing great. So thanks everybody out there even fans my patrons just sending love and You know it's It's been an emotional time in this adding the whole pandemic, adding all these things of course. You know you don't know how stressed you are an fucked up your F- up until it hits you and it hit me so There you go. I'm glad he's okay. Yeah. Thanks man. A big shoutout guys big announcement right now you're here at first it's in the trades but I am I had a chance Ryan Westwood one bought the show citing stuff. We Yeah, man we've been talking about it for a long time and I'm just so pomp that we have a big. Company that's letting us do our show the way we do it from my home. It's like there's no interference other than just incredible support. And there's so many I wish I could name all of them, but I'm doing I'm having meetings now I never meetings just like you know. So. It's just it's really amazing someone behind your show that could really. Help you and help the show get out to more listeners and people who might benefit from us thing and enjoy it. So I want to say thank you everybody for attending our stage at show. Robin I stage DOT COM did two shows on Saturday online show tremendous. People are amazing. We do zooms in prizes and it's a thank you to all the patrons and Yeah it's just incredible and we're making a lot of good music and rob on your shirt the to. US is the new band shirt available at Rosenbaum and dancing dot com and go to catalog and women's V necks and all that Shit and men's I don't WanNa be that guy that gets A. Sound. I hate that I don't WanNA become that guy. I'll be doing some virtual cons. I. Just didn't want. It was really awesome. So check the instagram and all that we zooms in Tom Welling from small the we do some zooms with people and thanks to all the pages again. For the support all the amazingness. this. This guest is like I've been trying to get him and he's a hard as guest There's one other guest on Smallville that I couldn't get but anyway, it was funny because if you watch if you're watching this if you're listening, you should probably watch to. John Shirtless. And I really appreciated him being shirtless because he's got a great body he's You know when I get to be his age, which is not that far away but he's working on his He's got a studio down in Louisiana and Miss Louisiana right it was easy and he's working. So we go little from location to location because of sound but. Ryan here did an incredible job piecing it together and it's really interesting because he gets personal talks about the lawsuit going to jail new studios, new life new love of his life scares with his his wife with a dealing with cancer but also some fun stuff and really interesting story and I really really I. Love You John Thanks for opening up and being so sweet. So you know from small Bill Dukes of Hazzard have and have nots. There's so many things he's done. Let's get inside John Schneider. It's my honor. Listening to inside of you with Michael. Rose. Inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience where where, where are your Louisiana. Louisiana at John Schneider Studios we have a hundred fifty acres or so here. Actually I don't have it. That's a whole other long story but It's. It's a beautiful place just hey, folks just before we got on the air here I was showing Michael Cool this used to be a summer camp. From nineteen, forty, until nineteen, ninety, it was either a summer camper a church camp. So it's got this most amazing rule. It's two hundred and something thousand gallons. And when people rent the place to to shoot movies and do different things they wind up invariably hanging out at the pool and having a great time. So I showed Michael Anyway. Yeah and he's also what he's insinuating really is that you're all welcome to come down hang out in this pool. He'd love that. You know we have AIRBNB here too. So you know you can't come for three, but you can come down for you know a couple of pennies. Well, I'll tell you what I'll pay whatever money if you promise to have your shirt off if I come there. I was working I was working when the. When the Sabbath either take your call or run to the House and get another shirt. But I figured this would be okay. Look I just before I a shirtless guess it is. It's the first shirtless guest and by the way I gotta say I looked obviously I don't know how old you are I never would have thought sixty old ever I don't know how you look this I always say this is like my mom said my aunt said it all my friends said like he's really hot when we were doing smallville and I'm like okay. I'll thank you I. Don't know what to say but I'll tell him. Thank you, thanks. But thank you. I'm happy you are happy and by the way someone who has like. I know you're writing a book I know you're doing all these I? Mean you've done everything we can. We'll get into that but did I wrote the book I wrote the book the book is out the book looks at now like my way. Yeah it's out now my life my way get an Amazon why not do you tell the truth? No, the next one I tell the truth. Yeah. But I get the next one is called Naked So the next one will be, they'll be a little bit more darker and Deft as far as into the dark stuff because I'm I right dark thing. So when the when naked comes out, it'll be a little more The first one is absolutely true but the first one is like. He G. You know show that people will go. Oh, that's cool. I didn't know that Oh, I didn't know you know the divorce is in air losing the studios and all that stuff is in there but it's it's It's more with the smile. It's more of a Light at the end of the tunnel, and then the second one is going to be a little bit of of of finding out the light at the end of the tunnel is attached to the front of a train. You know like you look a lot of actors and people think Oh good successful. I bet they were popular in high school I bet they added all they've just always have been lucky and talented, and they have whatever it is and so on my podcast I like to find out things that sort of make people human make people others relate and say, oh, he suffered from it and you think Oh John Schneider I mean obviously we've had some hardships which you can get into but you when you were in high school. You're you're overweight to say the least I was the fat kid. Yeah. I was see if I was in a character in San Lot, it'd be the fat kid with the inhaler. Had, an inhaler I had an inhaler primatene missed I. Remember it. Well, I was you know the last Guy Kinda chugging along at track and field you had to take track in New York I'm from New York New York state. But Yeah there was there was something though Michael when I when I used to go to the movies every Saturday. and I would I would go to double feature and I would sit there. And it. I don't know how to describe the difference I get into this in in my life my way but I would look up there and go not not. That's G. that's where I WANNA be I look up there and go. That's where I'm supposed to be. That's that's where I'm going to be. but it wasn't like wishful thinking. There was something something in me from about eight years old on that said. Justice, what you were built to do this? This is why you are here. So I never when when when kids would pick on me and you know push me, they used to this wonderful thing in New York. Would get your attention in the other guy would get on his hands and knees behind you and they would. They would tip you over into a pile of dog shit. That was that was that was fun stuff they did in New York state So when things like that would happen. I would. I would think well, that's all right. That's okay. No, they probably picked on John Wayne because his name was Mary. His name was Mary Marian John Wayne Marion Michael Morrison. So there was there was no. Point now, granted Dukes of Hazzard happened when I was eighteen but it happened when I was eighteen because I'd already done ten years of theater. I was already on the on the path I was already secretary pretty much unstoppable. which. Is why I walked into the audition for Dukes with a six pack of beer and I gave him what I thought they wanted and I was right. So bear was a John. Blue Ribbon. Are Do you remember what was it the David Lynch movies like highly kin fuck that Shit pabst blue reverbed baby baby what was that? They eventually. Blue Velvet blue. Velvet. You're right can. I say so John I mean you're you're overweight you're two hundred, fifty pounds. People are making funny. Ah, but you see something that no one else has you see almost I guess your future in a way, right? Yeah. Well, it was. When I was a kid I loved television show. I love the television show lost in space right and I had a weird dream that they were shooting lost in space at my dad's upholstery shop. And I was like. Ten. So. I didn't have a dream that I was in. You know onto Jupiter to the Robinson family I had a dream they were filming at my dad's shop and there was there were lights and there was clapperboard and all that. But there was there was craft service. How in the world? Would I know there was such thing as craft service on a television show set I was GonNa make a fat joke but I'm not going to do it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Back crafts or you have it hey hey, Hollywood but. They were there and I was sitting talking with the with billy. Mummy? Mummy I'm not sure Yeah and. We were just we were pals. It wasn't with will Robinson show it was weird I had a couple of things like that happen in my In my life. Later on I I ran into June lockhart who was in the dream to headed weird drain that I was at a party in a Tuxedo and I bumped into somebody and I said Oh excuse me. The guy turned around it was Dean Martin. And Dean Martin also, Tuxedo like he always was said to me. Thanks for having me here. And I'm like eleven years. Old Right. and. Years later. During one of the the last children's Miracle Network. We did at Disneyland there. I I was wearing my Tuxedo and I bumped into to gentleman I said excuse me turned around and dean. Martin And he says, thanks for having me here. So when opportunities come around like Dukes of Hazzard when Come around like Smallville which I said. No it emphatically I said, I don't want to be part of the demise of the Superman legend. I don't want to have anything to do with SMALLVILLE. You really turn to just turned it down three times. Wow. I turned down the audition I said, I'M NOT GONNA go auditioned I'm not gonNA take. No. And then then. They just read the pilot. My agents should read the pilot. And I got to the part where Where Have the keys to the truck that you gave You gave Clark on the wall. And I said he said so you're saying the apple doesn't fall far from the tree and I said no, I'm sorry I. Just want you to realize where the money came from that bought that truck. And at that point I knew that. This was not going to be the demise of Superman. This was going to be something that would firmly plants Superman into the psyche of of watchers forever. that. In fact, would be the best art of the Superman legend. And at that point I, it wasn't like Oh Gosh I've got wannabe Jonathan Kent it was like Oh. This is the next thing. This is the next. Stepping stone for me. So I didn't have any doubt in the world that I was going to get it. Even though there were other people there and I and somehow Michael Somehow this is not a. It's not arrogance it's like. Seeing it. When I was eighteen I read dukes of Hazzard. I thought. Oh. This is it. This is the springboard. What I've been working toward. Gosh, it's hard to explain. Now I absolutely understand it listen to me. There are some people who think and you know I think I've been both these people that you're like this is me this is the role I'm getting this role, and then there are a lot of people who think. Gosh, but they're going to go out to somebody else is going to be so many other people that have you know you start thinking there's a certain confidence and I think certain Inadvertent I don't know if it's inadvertent, but it's it's it's. This brave. Sort of intuition. Feeling you get when you're younger and you're like. Something I remember in college saying to. Alexis combs. I'm. Sitting on the porch and I go I'M GONNA go to New York I'm GonNa, make it and she's like, okay she didn't talk like that. She was way smarter than I. Just try to differentiate my voice she was just like okay, oh great Michael. And by the way. We've texted in the last six months and. No No. No. I'm going to New York, I know the odds I know all that stuff it it doesn't. It's not that's not about me I know what I'm. GonNa do so there was a certain and I remember this moment because you're gonna go. Am I going to remember him saying that because I felt it it was just something I. Felt. So I understand that you've had this feeling that this is going to happen. Yeah. Well, you know you have to they say that success is when preparation meets opportunity right but there's another part of that. I know a lot of very talented people that that. Throw. Opportunity Away with both hands because they don't recognize her. You got to recognize you have to expect. Great thing. If you don't expect great things if you look, you look at life like a buck, what's going to happen now? Nothing is going to happen now certainly nothing good but if you look at life like. Get like a little kid. There's an Easter egg where where's Easter Egg I? Know there's an Easter egg out here because because they're supposed to be. So if you look at life that way. Then, you start recognizing the Easter eggs you start realizing what you have prepared for. So of success is when preparation meets opportunity that you recognize. And you recognize it when you expect it. So when I first saw this property where where the studio is now I came in and it was like I saw I saw nothing but opportunity here I, saw my God I could. We could shoot this that we can film here. We can build a barn we can put on a play. We done all those corny things you saw it that. That that that that thirteen year olds WANNA do when they when they get together in. They're GONNA do the odd couple. You know let's do s to that. We only have. We only have one room so they do the odd couple. Right and. That's that's what I live here. Every day at least I have made eleven movies, Michael Eleven. We've been together, it'll be six years in October. And we've made eleven films. In the at the good neighbor, I have to plug them because it's my favorite little breakfast place in the world in studio city sort of North Hollywood i. saw you. Then it's the first time I've seen you in a long time you were sitting there with her I remember he looked at me and you go. I'm really happy. And it made me. So just I felt so warm inside I i. just felt so good that you felt that way and I could see it and. When you said you are happy. I could see that there's something about you that that saying that you weren't necessarily happy in the past when I saw you. But now when I, there's a certain glow where I think I, think he said this on the phone when we were when I was trying to get this podcast and you said something like. She lets me be me I could be myself. Say something along those lines, right? Yeah. Well, and also you know. One of the greatest lines of dialogue ever was she makes me WanNa be a better man. Right, and let me ask you what when you look you go from a kid who's An overweight kid who? Suddenly gets this confidence supposedly I read about. Is it true? Your your brother you found one hundred bucks under a video game and you took that you went to the gym with it. Is that true? I did yeah I did. But Hey I got to back you up a little bit because even when I was a kid I still had the confidence. You know. So it was an unusual combination. I had the. DENVER Pyle said. I had the strength of my ignorance. Her. You know. I didn't know it was impossible. So I did it. I think it's important. It's it's nice to see that. You sort of knew who you were then in a way. I I'm still figuring it out but like you like I don't care and that's what I say. You know I have a family members or that are overweight or don't like this about themselves. I don't like things about myself. Just, learned to love yourself I mean that's what we have to all do. It seems like you had confidence in yourself and you loved yourself when you're ready to go to the next level, well, I believe Michael that we're here for some reason. We just just around. We aren't just taking up space. That there is something we're supposed to do. Everybody not just may not just you but everybody and I, think my grandmother put that instill that into me. and. That's a lot of that. I think I passed on. In a very real sense to in in smallville Jonathan Clark. You know you're here for something. So do it. So you're you're not here to be a failure you're not here to be A. A problem. Your hair to do something good for someone else. And I knew that. So as a as a kid I knew well, yeah, overweight and I I did have to make a decision which my brother helped me make. My other one day after my like third slice of pizza at six flags said so I guess you've just forgotten all about that movie star thing. I said Moumouni mean. And he said, well, how many fat movie stars do you know? At that point I think zero mastel and I I knew I wasn't. Made to be Zero Moscow John. Candy John, Belushi well, not at that point this was. I don't know I don't think it's. Live happening seventy six, seventy five. Sure. Maybe think so so I when you're on a path and you hear somebody tell you. The truth. That will. Steer you in the right direction. You recognize it again that's that opportunity recognizing that opportunity it's via the opportunity to either continue eating the pizza. Or Stop. Because he was right. But who I was up to that point was the fat kid who made up for not being able to run in track by having a guitar on my back and playing music. For everybody all the time in highschool. So I wasn't an unpopular guy. I was kind of that guy with the guitar that would would sing those trophies thoughts. But that stop as soon as my brother said that that stopped the next day. We were a bowling alley and I was playing the evil knievel inbound machine. dropped. A quarter of. Crawled underneath a machine to get the quarter one hundred dollar bill. Across the street it sounds like sounds like fiction across the street from the bowling alley was a big sign. Nautilus had just up the first Nautilus I think anywhere. And it was three years for one hundred dollars. So that night I asked my mom, you know what should I do and she said, well, if you really, GonNa do this movie stars thing then. You should spend your hundred dollars. So I, did I spent my hundred dollars. and. Two months later, I was hundred and eighty five pounds. And looked great. because I'd spent two months dieting and working out at not. the next couple of months. Later, I was one of the hardest trainers at Nautilus there in Sandy Springs. So it's it's is like this is a movie, the First Act. This is the first act where the kid goes and picks up the corner and he sees a hundred dollar bill and his booze. Lord I don't know which do with it well, you won't be movie store don't you is like will yeah but I could buy a lot of pizza and a lot of other cool things with this. It's like okay, I guess you're not going to be a movie star and then he looks across the street and There's a freaking jam and three years and the kid goes which most kids won't ever go. They will do that I. wouldn't have done that I would take one hundred bucks. Now, what about bottle COLECO vision I would whatever and I just I I don't have that you. That's amazing. I remember when you first got smallville well, when I first got we we I got smallville I had it sounds fancy but it wasn't five thousand dollar Cadillac Eldorado convertible didn't run very well it looked good but it was a piece of Shit I bought it for five grand and you let me keep it at your mansion if I may say In a Gora hills I lost it. Don't them judge I lost it books I lost but you had one that's more at a jet to I lost that too. All right. Well, you know we can talk about that. But right now I'm talking about my Shitty Eldorado Cadillac convertible. So, it was like from smokey and the bandit the I remember you came over one day you have. I don't know if you had any more but you had the generally in your garage do I have two of them now? Okay. So I go okay see it and know yeah, and I was kind of nervous asking you and you're like, let's go for a ride and we got in, of course, jumped through the window is hard because I just had surgery a few years back. So I was a little stiff but we drove down the highway and we got looks in the girls i. was like, oh, my gosh generally some people that were younger like the only guys but it was my brother I got my brother was before facetime. There's no way it was so excited but you're so giving your so good to me eventually said come get your piece of Shit can't keep it here anymore but it was after about a year or two and I understood that but you know those days did you have a great time during the show that you love doing the show? Did you? I mean I I could tell that you were just really invalid sort of in the in the role you took it. So seriously which I think really helped the character and the show well, thank you Yeah, I have I have you know it's been a long time so I have I have great. Great Memories another part of me remembers though being kind of Pissy about. Scripts or about The shallowness of of. The writing at times but you know now I realize it's hard. It's hard to turn out twenty four stories worth watching a year. Yard to do that. So yeah but I didn't I didn't really know and I just did a youtube video. I do I answer Dukes, questions, people always ask me my favorite episode and somebody said was your least favorite up so And I had to tell them the when we did it, we did one call the ghost of general. Lead. And I remember reading it and thinking. Oh. Great. Now, we're stealing from Mark Twain. This is Tom. Sawyer? We show up our own wake I. Mean these guys are so lame. Years. Later, it became my favorite episode. So once I became a member of the audience rather than a member of the cast I loved every minute of Dukes. But I'd be lying if I did sat in Piss and Moan a little bit during our during our seven years I. Think we all did look I mean you're you're caught up in it you're tired you're working in. I think everybody did such a fantastic job that we're always pushing each other in different ways and so you know you always want to this to be better that to be better and nothing's perfect. So you do the best you can, of course, I look now and I'm like to write twenty, two, twenty, four episode, one hours a year. How could how could more than half of them even be good it's so hard that you hope you have. No I work now at work now for the last seven, eight seven. Eight years. Anyway, with Tyler Perry. Tyler turns out. Twenty two, twenty, four episodes of the Haves and have-nots a year twenty, four episodes of six other shows a year. Somehow he manages to. to, write them and direct them and It's called speed. Speedo the hardest and easiest schedule I've ever had is doing the haves and have-nots we have shot. We should between one hundred and one hundred and forty pages a day screw that I wouldn't do it. I'd fall apart I can't memorize if I need a week to do five pages Yes I won't see you on the set. Well, you know by the way my mother said, wow, he plays a real evil character on that haven't have not. Wow. He's so dark and I'm like, did you do that purposely like I think as actors sometimes we're like going plan such a nice. Genuinely innately good person on Smallville, and then they'll send you just you WANNA, turn it around and say look at me I could do something different. was there part of that? Well, again, there was after Smallville there was I did a wheel on NIP Tuck. Yep. And then I did a show called dirty sexy money. Then I did I did an episode of the leverage which was great. So all of a sudden. Again recognizing opportunities all of a sudden these character started to change. A little bit well, quite a bit for me, but these darker things started coming in. So. When the haves and have-nots when I read that and I had to read for it, you read by by invitation for Tyler. I, read it. And again I said, oh There it is. There's the next one. And show I went in and I. was like. This is mine I. Don't know why anybody else is here. Maybe. They didn't have anything to do today, but this is mine. Months. Later, when I had kinda forgotten about the whole thing, I got the call that the yet we're GonNa do the show and you're going to Atlanta and it's going to be great. So and it's been it's been wonderful. But again, that was that thing that I recognize and said Oh. You know again I'm a thirteen year old dog. There it is. There's the next stepping stone. Do you ever get nervous? Do you ever get nervous while you're acting you ever get nervous about? And by the way who helps you learn lines, you learn them quickly how do you do that I learned quickly I don't get nervous anymore I I really you know Michael I. I don't get nervous. Why what's the secret? Knowing that the part is yours. I remember I did a thing. I went and read for Rob Reiner or something, and it was I thought Oh. This is great. This is this is me. Small Dildo and there were things coming but dark things coming. That's a good title. But I read Sir Rob Reiner, and the found out a couple of days later that somebody else got it and my first thought in this is not. My New York Sarcasm, my first thought was. Wow I thought reiner was smarter than that. You know what? I know John Schneider enough to say I could have told you. You'd say that. You're definitely one where it's it's. It's an ego, but it's like you believe so much in yourself that you're like that wrong decision I know what I can, and it's not even what I can do I know what I can bring. And what I bring is believability. So if you want if you want people to believe the ship that you wrote. Then, you've got to have someone who can convince people the ship that you wrote Israel I'm that guy. I'll note that I know I've taught a couple of acting classes people have when the teachers couldn't be there. And I say we're thrown out all this checkoff Shakespeare No Neil Simon for God's sake we're not GONNA do Neil Simon because Neil Simon is brilliant. The chance that you will ever have the opportunity to be the first person to utter a line. The likes of which Neil Simon wrote. Is Slim to none. However, your job is to make atrocious dialogue believable. So. Let's find some atrocious dialogue and make it believable. Yeah. As what I teach or do the best you can I've I've had some atrocious dialogue in my time and you know I remember being on a show where even my own family it was like, wow, that's bad and I'm like blacks only God my own family I'm like I'm trying like I might night I'm cooking I do you can't do anything you just can't you just do your best? Ball to twenty one, Bob, you can't make it burn sixty. You just can. You can make it the best finely polished heard. That, you can't. Inside of you brought to you by hydrant summers here guys and I'm always dehydrated I never drink enough water ryan is crazy frigging hot outside. No, I decided to wear pants. I was bad idea bad idea man. 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As I like to say if if if if two of us are the same than one of us is unnecessary. So when a when a person in a white coat told us that she was three years into a five year shelf life. I enter pet scan lit up like a Christmas tree. We both and here this folks we both looked at each other and said. No. We have things to do. Not, only individually but together, we have a tremendous amount of things to to do. This is not going to happen to us. We are going to figure out everything that cancer wants and stop it. We are going to find out everything that cancer hates and do it. And we did. And now she has a clear pat scan. and. She. CAST, by the way, cancer is not something you beat. Cancer is something I know this because I'm the founder of the CO founder of children's Miracle Network. Cancer is something we all have? But we also all have the system. That is built to fight it to keep it at bay. It's like. Oil and water you know it's gotta you gotTa keep it at bay. So. When somebody in a white coat tails you have cancer what they really are saying is your cancer has gotten stronger and your system that fights it has gotten weaker or has given up. So you have got to. Weaken the cancer while strengthening that system. How do you do that? Well. You do it with Diet. You do it with people say cancer can't live in a in A. And alkalinity. So drink alkaline water. Well, yeah. Do that cancer can't live in heat. So, get a Every opportunity do infrared. Get into an infrared sauna infrared saunas up to one hundred and fifty eight degrees. I have one of those cancer love shut. When you get a pet scan, they will give you a thing called glucose so that they can see where the cancer is. Why Because Cancer Attracts Glucose. So stop eating sugar. It's not a matter of choice. It's a matter of, is a matter of absolutely matter of life and debt. There's something about CBD. Oil. that. Helps I don't think it fights cancer but I think it takes your system that is there to fight cancer. And gives it something that can recognize and that system goes off. Thank God you're here where you've been. And it enables that. System. To get stronger in enables I believe that enables the medicine that the doctors will give you to work better. So the second that person in a white coat walks in and says, these things your mind you don't. I mean. Do you get emotional D- start going? Oh Yeah. I mean I can't even think about it without without getting because I was there and. Alicia puts it this way she said for. For the first couple of days, let the house beyond fire. You woke up in the middle of the night. And there's there's flames in the hallway and there's no way to get out except jump out the window three stories. Okay. We'll live that way for a couple of days don't. Don't deny your self. The. Cleansing. Panic. But don't live there. You can't live there it almost like she's consoling you in a way she's like saying, Hey, this is like almost like. She was. I don't know there's this inner strength where I I think I would just fall apart I wouldn't, and she's like, Hey, this is almost like you guys jumped into a plan like we've got to get this. Let's greed. Let's panicked. We panicked and you know all these all these long term goes I look at it could look at a tree. I couldn't look at US lower I couldn't look at anything. Without wondering if she was going to be here. Too, because we plant, we do a lot of planning and thing clan glance teams planting and yeah. Gardening's grapes are the sole. So everything. Made me. Sad. For a little while. Nothing made me mad. You can't get mad because if you realize cancer is something we all have. Just, some of us. F Stop. Fighting for some reason while figure that reason out. and. Fix It. So. So that was hard but. We were strong together before. Now. I mean we're Johnny and June. It was on last night I watched walking Phoenix that it just came on I was. I remember when you when your dad passed. And I remember you made a there was like a video because I don't know if you're on a photo shoot I can't remember exactly but I remember how emotional it was and it, but you want you wanted to remember it. So you filmed had that go well, we were doing a press shoot for haves and have nots, and during lunch I had a nice dad had a stroke and he was in bad shape. And he passed away during lunch and I had a couple more setups to do. And when They had said this was This was your last one. So when I said, let me know when you when you take the last picture, Oriole get you out of here. I said it's not about that. Let me know. And He said, okay. All right. That was it and I said come here take my picture. And he said, no, we're done I said, no, no, no. Just take my picture and I'll tell you why. And he took this series of like thirty eight, gene gene gene pictures. And then I told him I said. I learned during lunch that my father had passed away. And I wanted. For some reason, it was almost like you know. God said capture that moment. And I did and later that that gentleman asked if he could publish those pictures, I saw them and they were they were. You can't act that. And I said absolutely you know go ahead. I believe that when you see again like you don't deny yourself. Anecdote Deny Yourself. Grief. So. That was on display and somewhere during the next year. That photographers he was doing shoot any found out that his brother had died. And he turned to his assistant. Ended in the camera and said, take my picture what. All my God. And I have I have the pictures just from my cell phone. Within three minutes and finding out my mother had passed away. And there's There's something healing about those pictures. And I'm not sure what it is. But If you have that opportunity. Is Not a selfish thing. It's not a narcissistic thing capture that moment. So here's why just figuring this out so you can always remember. How much you loved that? I. Just thought that because I think sometimes when you lose something and. You. Know someone passes or this You know I should be you know did I grieve long enough tonight? and. You start to question things quite an eye and it's a moment like that makes you realize absolutely love this person I can look at those pictures on my phone. And they're not sure anybody else who just for me. But it's a good idea, it's a good thing to do. It'll. It'll like you said like we said it'll keep you it'll. It'll remind you how much you love. Them. Speaking of which you care. If I play this little song, it's my favorite song. It was a number one hit that you did though sure. Sure. Junior love. That WH-. You played that for me and on Smallville I go holy Shit this guy does it. Oh. All right this is called Shit Talkin with John Schneider patrons who I love who support the show so much these are some questions from them. So this is rapid fire. You don't have to sit here and dive deep if you don't want to. Steph a were you affected by the Dukes of Hazzard with film with Jessica Simpson or did you like it? I thought it would have to be considerably better to suck. There you go. Thank you Nancy. D that's such a very lengthy career. How states so grounded with such incredible credits on your resume because I know. I know I'm not there yet. I can. I can see the finish line from here but. In many regards I. Feel this is a i. mean this I feel like I'm I've just started. Now have that attitude man to have that attitude. It's not like athletic show somebody who's faster than somebody else somebody throws the ball faster than somebody else somebody hits buck more accurately than somebody else with us it's all relative it's all speculation. So you've gotTa have your own unit of measure. and. I've hit a couple of triples, but I haven't hit the Grand Slam yet. But I will I love the attitude carly h how difficult was playing Jonathan Kent. When you knew there was a time limit on his involvement in the show and did this affect the choices you made in playing him? Away, on the way I played Jonathan Kent was mostly affected by the fact that my son. Real son. Had has asperger's syndrome. So I chose to treat chasing as if he was someone who had special gifts, not special needs and we talked about that on small a lot because we had to. Forget that this boy was going to be superman because superman didn't exist yet. Wow. So So there my death, my impending deaths never even occurred to me. All Right Anna a what prompted you to found co found the children's miracle network. How much are you still active with the organization? I'm still very active children's miracle network although we're doing things in cyber land like like this now but. When? I was a kid when I was a fat kid I had as my head an inhaler I spent a lot of time. In hospitals being poked and prodded. When dukes of hazzard happened and I became. On the number one show in three network world. I felt the need to do something so that children wouldn't have to go through what I went through when I was a kid and that's how children's Miracle Network was was. Burst. Really makes perfect sense Jennifer an she grew up watching dukes of hazzard and loves the song good old boys what is your favorite episode of the show I? Think he said that? Yeah my favorites. I'll tell you my favorite episode is go. So generally however I had so much fun doing carnival thrills also doing go west young Dukes I got I got to have a moustache a bull whip. Gun didn't have to carry a bow and Arrow in my pocket. It's kind of hard to carry on. So that would be my top three Lisa h what was more brutal on you mentally starring in a weekly TV show or your stint on dancing with the stars my stint on dancing with the stars is the single most difficult thing. I've ever done in my life and I've been on Broadway I've played music one, hundred and twenty thousand people I've done. All these television shows, but dancing with the stars kicked my ass. Alright. Hey, I wanted to ask you know I never got I think I'm asking you not because it was terrible time in your life but maybe it's selfish of me to ask this because it's always scared me but you you had to go to jail for a couple of days right? While it's supposed to go for three what the jail was full. So I went for nine hours nine hours well, but there's an important important thing to know their time. I went for three. and. When you go in, you go in processed into the twin towers in La your process into the Twin Towers in L A U R make no mistake you are in jail. And I was fully. Believing I was going to be there for three solid days because that's what. My. Ex winds Lawyer made sure that the judge check some box. So in my mind, I was there for three days I was shocked. And you know oddly enough Michael you'll believe this I don't think anybody else believe it. I was looking forward to the research I was going to be doing for three days in jail. and. When they let me out, I was like, wait a minute. Are you are you? Sure? I mean, do I have to come back not enough? You'd be you're out you you came you had every essentially doing your three days. There's no room. So you're they're letting you out. You weren't nervous at all. You aren't you honestly when I went into. In court because in in court. I. Said earlier I don't get nervous I got nervous in court because I realized that this judge for whatever reason. Didn't like me. And Really. I don't know if he had a relationship with with my my wife's Council or what but he? They would do the most atrocious things and say the worst. Things. And he would just sit there and listen I would say something in defense of myself and I was treated like. I was treating terribly. So. I was treated in jail much better than I was treated in court. In court I was treated like I was guilty until proven innocent. Wow. So whatever anybody when somebody says I was framed and they did believe them. because. I found no justice whatsoever. In the court in. Los. Angeles at one eleven. High Street. No justice whatsoever. You Know Me Michael I'm I will try to do the right thing. But when you push me to a certain point. Especially, when you call me a liar. My God. So I asked when it was all when it was all over. He gave me a date I had to report to jail by a certain certain time and I said your honor I I want to get this behind me. Can you send me now. He said what? I said you told me before that. You know if I didn't show up you're gonNA, track me down and have a bench warrant for me and throw me in jail. Well, it can't be that difficult. So just send me now I WANNA get this over with I, want to start my three days as soon as I get out of here I WANNA Walk to jail and get this over with what he say he said. They live. Can we do that? No one's ever said, this goes lost his now. No. One's ever done that before and this is a guy who threatened to throw me come across the state. Come across the country and throw me in jail. So he had a sense of humor about it and I went to jail and they weren't ready for me. I had to ask the bag I said look I, got paperwork here. Dude I love the show is one. But I had I had the request bit. The deputies. Call the court and figure out how to admit me into jail. And they did and I said, okay. Well, come on and. Shoelaces the belt took I mean did the whole thing and I was waiting for an Orange Jumpsuit And wound up being let go rhino. You guys don't know the story. Obviously this is taken out of context, but it was like you know obviously, you know you have the story, your whole ranch or movie studio was completely like trashed right from the for hurricanes during that time where I'm standing right now. The, water water was this high. You really can't get much of a picture that you're right everything I had in the world. Was Destroyed. Two thousand. What is today on August Thirteenth Two Thousand Sixteen and we had just had in March. We had one hundred year flood. So we lost a lot of things in March but it was nothing. Compared to what happened in August and so that's pretty much what you're saying you were you were you had no money to give or you would have given it well ahead nothing my tax returns proved beyond the shadow of doubt. That I had lost. Almost, a half a million dollars in two thousand sixteen. K. The lawyers on the other side talked to the the I had the third time. I had to bring the EPA out who prepared my tax returns and I thought it was all going to be over at that point. We'll hear the tax returns tax returns. They're undeniable. What she said to the to the CPA excuse me did you prepare the you prepare the tax return she said, yes, she said, and the receipts that the tax returns were prepared from did you compile those yourself and she said we'll know and she said it's hearsay your honor. In my piece, of Shit lawyer. Didn't say just a moment your honor me a cross examined. Say all he had to do. Was Say Do. You know the person who prepared the receipts and she would have said. Donor all my life are known for twenty. Years. He didn't do it. So the judge said in, this is why this is why I have bad feelings toward you judge. He said. People I on their taxes all the time sustain. At that moment my tax returns proving I didn't have two nickels to rub together or inadmissible. And I now was a guy who had millions of dollars would not pay. And that's why I went to jail. What a story I can't wait to read the next bullet put it in a script I put I put a lot of that script. There's. As the the optimus said looking at a pile of shit. He said, you know there's only in there somewhere so. I, love you Michael Listen I love you. I mean I made you're so open and so honest and so sincere and I love hearing all these stories and I mean, we talk about your success in the it's amazing. When people listen you know a lot of these stories you know I. Think it gives them hope and you opening up about your wife and the cancer is just inspirational. And let me throw one more thing to Michael. This is important. All of this. My life has been great I. Love I loved every minute even the bad stuff and here's why. If you know your hockey player, you have the puck. And nobody's on your ass then you're not a threat. So if you don't have problems like this, if you don't have a judge to look at and go am I speaking some language, you don't understand if you don't have those things to me. Those things that try to stop me let me know I am indeed on the right track. If I didn't have those things I would question whether or not whether or not. I was on the right track. So, if there's somebody out there right now. Who just a just gets pylon them. Don't let that weaken you let that gives you strength to get through it. Because there's something up there around that next corner that somebody doesn't want you to. Go for it would everything you've got I love it. Hey, this is awesome I'm glad we finally found an area where you could see you and I can. Elliott Buck I'm GONNA come down and visit that place. It looks great. Let us do you love it Michael in. Love it is has been real nice to It's been amazing to catch out on your dreams and bring him here and get them get them Some light on it I will johnny good talking to you w Michael. The one thing you gotTa love about John Is. He says what he wants to say and what he feels he doesn't kind of like people will call me and say cut that do the he's like Air I want you to air this? I want you to air this. The judge was an idiot you know and It's just you know he just kind of what's the saying you? Go Buy your own. Tune of your. Go But you go. The beat of your own drum, defeat a you're on bongos man whatever. I never meant for clever things. I want to say thanks again to everybody listening and keep listening his big announcement with Westwood One, which is incredible. They bought the show and they're so amazing over there. They're really rocket everybody over there. Thank you. I. Have Sales meetings now I have meetings about the show and the guests and. 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From Being Broke To Being Debt Free Guys: An Interview with Husbands David Auten and John Schneider

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From Being Broke To Being Debt Free Guys: An Interview with Husbands David Auten and John Schneider

"As part of national coming out week. I wanted to highlight my friends with debt-free guys. AK husband's John Schneider and David Austin in this episode. We explore how they got into debt trying to keep up with others and get validation as well as the financial challenges the lgbtq community face and why we also discuss shocking statistics around mental health and the gay and trans community and why now reaching out is more important than ever the mental health and wealth show the mental health and wealth show the mental health and well shut off. Thank you so much for listening to the mental health and wealth show. This is host Melanie locker. And first of all, I want to acknowledge that you are brave and amazing for being here getting ready to listen to a show about them to health and money is not easy. And I know that you are ready for these amazing conversations. But before you listen, I want to let you know that all of my content is based on my own personal experience with mental health wage. Money as well as the experiences and expertise of my guests. I'm not a mental health professional or a financial professional. So content should not be considered Professional Medical or financial advice off as a trigger warning. Please note that content on the show may include sensitive topics run mental health and suicide. So if you're currently in distress, please get in touch with the professional by texting home to 7 a.m. Or 1741. Thank you so much and enjoy the show. Hi, this is Manny lockart host of the mental health and wealth show today. I have my friends the debt free guys on the show. I'm so excited with their writing and their speaking the debt free guys right on debt-free guys.com their microblog debt last and they're queer money podcast David Martin and John Schneider / help queer people and allies live fabulously not fabulously broke. They represent the queer voice and both personal and business finances David and John's work has appeared in Forbes Yahoo! Finance CNBC ABC News and Good Morning America to name just a few their goal is to connect lgbtq people with the information and services they need so that queer Community can do more and be more. Thank you for being on the show and thank you for having us at work. Super excited to be here. I'm so happy to have you guys on the show. You know, we go way back in the debt free community. Yes. Let's talk about that. I feel like it's approaching five years plus. I'm not even sure how long we've been connected but it's in quite a while when I was writing a lot of deer debt and paying off debt and you guys were starting debt-free guys, and I've loved seeing your journey of creating debt-free guys, and then you guys have just propelled to this amazing brand. It's amazing a source for people and I'm so excited about which guys do so to start. I would love to hear a little bit about your debt payoff story. And also just what you guys do for our audience sure sure wage. Definitely, so obviously I think like most folks John and I had separate debt stories that we brought with us to our relationship, but it was after being together about a year that we kind of settled down from the puppy love spend all your money dating each other kind of case. Yeah, you know, I think everybody goes through that you're one of the lucky ones if you've talked about money before that time. But for us really our debt kind of debt free Journey began when we were still in our spend money and consume phase we went up to the mountains in Colorado for a short weekend trip to visit a friend of Johnson fell in love with a little mountain town and decided that that would be a perfect place for us to buy land and build a vacation home. So we on our way out of town on Sunday checked out real estate hop in the car and started driving back down towards Denver so long Turn it out this elevation above nine thousand feet having this amazing conversation about what it would be like to buy land and and build this beautiful vacation home. And as we kept driving down the mountain our conversation about what we could afford began to change we went from that fantasy of buying land and building a home to maybe buying something that already existed to maybe renting long-term to the time. When we got home we pulled up to our place grabbed her bags open up a door walk down a flight of stairs into a basement apartment. That was that was our home and it was actually that was the one we kind of really kind of came clean about our money story to each other we came out about our money to each other. I love that. Yeah, we confess between the two of us that we had a combined $51,000 in credit card debt off. And the sad part about it. Is that John and I were at that point in time how to combine thirteen years of experience working in financial services talking to and jumping and guiding other people through the process of investing and saving more for retirement and getting your life on track financially and we were not at all doing things for ourselves and we realized at that point at that low point that we were both physically and financially living in a hole. We were living below ground. Our finances were applied down and we were complete Financial messes and we were just shocked at this is where we had arrived and we needed to take the time to figure out what was going on. And where would we end up if we didn't change or we did change the way we were living Our Lives. I love that. So that's kind of the impetus of how it all started. That's the Awakening. Yep. Yaha moment. What was that conversation? Like when you guys first came clean to each other and you were like, this is how much debt we have like I can just imagine that this is like a bubble being punished, you know, you're not in puppy love anymore. It's like we're dealing with the real life issues and that includes, you know, all of this debt. Yeah, absolutely. Well, so I think what was interesting is we talked about this in hindsight that I thought. I knew that I had a bunch of debt. I knew that I was a financial mess and I just kind of assumed that there's no possible way that he's also as much of a mess as I am and he thought he has he had the same opinion of me like clearly. This guy must have his act together. That's so funny. And and we were just two peas in a pod that like we're attracted to each other and what that did was it did burst a bubble and we were we were defeated for a while what that kind of exposed though was we realized that that was just the physical manifestation wage. Of how we had felt about ourselves up to that point and our beliefs about our self-worth and about what we could earn and who we were in society and what we could contribute was somehow manifests in that $51,000 in credit card debt. So really forced us to have not only a look about our finances, but what were the thoughts and behaviors even unconscious thoughts and behaviors that got us into that situation. You know, my Angela always says when you know better you do better. Well, we knew better but we do not do better. So we do not live up to that and so we had to really figure out what it is that I thought we were doing that was was putting us in that particular situation and then keeping us there because we realized that we were going to trajectory to go deeper and deeper into a hole and and we wouldn't be able would not have been able to survive. I'm so glad you mentioned that because this is the mental health and wealth show and I love to talk about the intersection of money and mental health and you know, you mentioned this idea that this was the manifestation of birth. Self worth of everything that you had believed to that point. Can you go a little bit deeper into like how you figure it out that this was more of a money mindset issue, you know a problem with self-worth and then how did you kind of climb out of that? Well, one of the first things that I did when we were paying off our debt or getting on the debt free Journey was I did a spending analysis and it really opened our eyes up to the what we were spending our money on and John and I realized that the vast majority of the money that we were spending was being spent on trying to make ourselves look better to other people or to make ourselves feel like we fit in or in my case many times. I spent money literally to buy the Friendship of people that I didn't think would like me if I didn't pay for their drinks or buy them a meal or do various things off. Would in essence basically engender them to me because I didn't feel like I was worthwhile in any other way and it was the looking at how we were spending our money that what we were spending our money on that I think was the first kind of scratched the surface of why are we spending this way? And why what what are we really longing for what we really want in life and that's kind of kicked off this whole conversation of what's important. And what do we really value? And when we realized that our values or what? We really thought we gave you two wanted to Value didn't match up with our spending and that are spending was based on this kind of superficial value. We started to Earth some of the features of things around why we were spending that way. Why did we feel this compelled to to seek the validation of everyone else rather than a validation of ourselves wage? That's so interesting. And you know, I know you've mentioned that part of your debt story is coming up with this money to live a specific lifestyle that you saw in the gay community and I'm curious how quote a culture affected your finances and if there if you think there was this desire to fit in regardless of cost. It sounds like you kind of mentioned that but I'd love for you to kind of go a little deeper and talk about you know, what was this compulsion to spend money? What is this thing that you have to fit in and do you think it has to deal with that? If you're coming out, you know, you're already kind of something different than quote everybody else and there's this desire to fit in like what's the Nexus of all of that? Yeah. I think there's there are a lot of things converging in one spot for David and me particularly we came from times and places when it wasn't okay to be gay and while lgbtq acceptance is better than it ever has been before it's still got a long way to go in parts of the country club. And for particular individuals in our community were not anywhere close to where we need to get and so I think when you grow up in a culture where politicians and churches and Educators media parents family constantly saying either to you directly because they know you might be lgbtq or they're just saying it on the side not knowing that you are that being lgbtq is back in that you're going to go to hell you're going to burn in hell for the rest of Eternity and you receive all of these overt and covert messages. That being lgbtq is horrible. You adopt that and not no matter how thick skin you are that carries on with you until you eventually address that and most of us don't address that until unfortunately we get to a rock bottom moment. And so that was our particular experience. I think the other thing that we're we're challenged with is that gay men in particular and going through the HIV aids crisis we kind of dog. Adopted this as a culture this sort of carpe diem effect because many of us just assume that we weren't going to live beyond, you know, forty or or fifty years old. So that's why even worry about saving enough money for that elusive retirement in my sixties and seventies, but why be concerned about all those long-term adult things I'm going to die young and I thought it was, you know surprised it's been a surprise to our community the progress that medicine has made in the fight against HIV and AIDS and now we have not only a population of older gay men who didn't plan appropriately and planned on dying a lot younger who are now living on the fringes of our community and struggling to make ends meet but that Carpe Diem effect has not really dissipated in our community. We still sort of have that we still serve have that expectation and so gay men in particular are supposed to be fabulous, right? You need your gay best friend to help you dress and help you design your house wage. We have to look good and be funny and all these sort of stereotypes that we must live up to and a lot of us feel that unless we live up to that unless we show that we can keep up with that that we're not necessarily be worthy and the almost becomes a competition that the things that I have and all the things that I can show you are proof that despite what my parents told me when I was younger where my church thought when I was younger. I'm as good as you if not better cuz otherwise it wouldn't have these fabulous genes on I won't be able to go to all these fabulous parties in these vacations. Now, we may not be expressing that consciously, but I think there's a an unconscious tendency for many in our community to sort of try to make up for the past and that kind of fashion. I'll just add to that that life for many of us growing up we experience at different times in our lives various forms of traumatic experiences some types of trauma and I think for LGBT month Folks who are not in a an accepting and confirming household or church or community that there's this oftentimes hidden traumatic experiences. No one knows a really realizes that their traumatic experiences, but we're experiencing those traumatic experiences on a very personal level and age. There's kind of really only two ways to deal with trauma you either confront the trauma and try to figure out how to heal from it or you do the best job that you can be on burying that trauma in a way that hides it from other people and from you and we live in a culture today. We're living off a bulous Lee having all of the material things in life and being able to display them is one of the easiest ways to kind of cover-up or higher wage. At trauma so that other people don't see it and the we don't necessarily feel it. Right. I go shopping at the mall every week and I go by this and that well that covers up my trauma I hang out with my friends and they see my new clothes and I buy a round of shots for everybody and they think I'm great that covers up my trauma. I think a lot of us are are dealing with our trauma in a financial way that is self-sabotaging and for many of us it will end up coming out in some way that we don't really want it to and took only for John and I we confronted it early on. I'm so glad you mentioned that and you guys brought up such fantastic points about trauma and kind of spending and self-sabotaging off and I really loved the point of you know, this kind of carpe diem attitude specifically related to HIV and the AIDS crisis, you know, that's not something I had put two and two together, but it makes total sense. I really appreciate you shutting light on that and it's so funny that you guys talked about trauma not funny that you talked about trauma. But I just spent the whole weekend reading this book called the body keeps the score and it was all about trauma and it was very very difficult stories of trauma. But basically the premise of the book is that everyone experiences trauma at some point and everybody keeps the score the body remembers, you know, and we have to really deal with that. You know, it was saying that trauma can come out in different pain different autoimmune diseases and depression and anxiety into anger, you know, and just so many different things if we don't address it and I think to your point a lot of people kind of take that trauma and put it outward and you know, look at my clothes and look at my fiance's car and we're living in this artifice hoping that we don't have to dig deeper, right? Absolutely. Yeah, and I think it's not it's not unique to the lgbtq community. We have young people are dealing with in an all dead. Communities in similar ways right when you have hold neighborhoods of people who are living beyond their means and kind of competing with each other who can throw the best birthday parties for their children or who can have the best decorations on their house who can have the the best front porch all that kind of stuff. We have to kind of ask ourselves. Why is it we want to do what it is that we think that we want to do is there more to it than just, you know us back to improve our home or us trying to have a good time. Yeah. I think it's really important to investigate these questions like why we feel like we should do something and a lot of the times I think it's you know us getting conditioned into a culture that we just think it's normal but maybe normal isn't always the best right? Yeah absolutely agree with that. It's interesting that we're talking about this cuz I think I oftentimes ass question of is there a double-edged sword to self care cuz oftentimes will do things in the name of self-care not realizing that at the same time it's dead. Sabotaging our financial state or our financial future. And so it's important to give yourself. You do need the self-care but make sure that self-care isn't also real life harming another part of your life. Totally. I'm so glad you mentioned that actually Natalie bacon who you know, she was a finance blogger back in the day. I don't you guys remember her and she's been life coaching and stuff now I listen to one of her things and she said that self-care isn't always going to be fun real self care is about managing your finances is about, you know, managing exercise and doing the things that are good for, you know, we often think that self-care is just about you know, baths and buying things and making ourselves feel good. And I think that's also true but it doesn't have to just be it like self-doubt can be uncomfortable like that real deep trying to sustain myself and change my life kind of self-care and self-love. Nice you think about physical health right? Whether it's exercising. Yep. Eating right eating right isn't always going to taste the best right? I mean literally if you want to if you think that self-care taking care of yourself as eating the best tasting food, then we're all going to be sitting around eating Pringles and Ben & Jerry's all the time. They get that really random Pringles if like the best food in the world and take Pringles and and then I am bored from time to time. Those things are good and healthy but not long-term. Yeah, we wouldn't have like three doughnuts a day every day off which you know is my fantasy but you know, we wouldn't be worried about future essentially it would make us sick to you know, and so it's this balance of doing things that feel good but also realizing true self care as getting to the nitty-gritty stuff like managing your finances and it's so not fun and it's so not sexy, but it'll help you in the longer term. Yeah, what you need to do is focus on you know, what is the goal and think of the sting of the the end product and that'll help you get through the the period of time when you have to do the work. Yes, and there are great ways to gamify or actually make Financial education or the financial habits or the financial progress to make it fun to to see it happen. I will love the results of having gone to the gym every day for three months in a row. We know with the physical and the we see the results. We love that. Right? Well the same thing can happen when we work on our finances. Yes. I love that and having that feeling of accomplishment and seen more, and more zeros in the bank is so exciting either. So when I go talk to you guys a little bit about you know, what are the financial challenges that might be unique or more prevalent with people who identify as lgbtq. Sure. I mean there's unfortunately there's a Litany of challenges for our community. I think the first one that comes to mind is that 40% of homeless youth identify as lgbtq. So whether they're leaving because they've been kicked out of their parents home or they're leaving for their own safety. They're starting life behind with a bigger challenge than many of us did because at the very thought we had the emotional support of our family as we were trying to get into adulthood and to try to navigate adulting whereas they don't have that option and that hinders many aspects of their lives, especially their finances in addition to that. There's similar to the the gender pay Gap. There's a sexual orientation and gender identity pay Gap simply lgbtq. People are just are just paid less. We seek lower-paying jobs careers and we are simply just paid less and we don't aspire to or get those higher positions. In fact, the University of serious study came out a couple of years ago that that said that simply South Being or looking gender-nonconforming not necessarily being lgbtq, but just appearing or sounding can lose you a promotion a raise or a job. Oh my gosh, and that's what our community is dealing with on a day-to-day basis add to that that some of the behavior can actually or the limitations can come from inside of us because of outward pressures. So for example, if you it was only this year that Supreme Court basically said that an individual cannot be fired because of their sexual orientation or gender identity before that. There were Thirty states in the country that someone could be fired if they were basically to be outed about their gender identity or sexual orientation and what a lot of people say. Well that doesn't really happen. Well, you're right it may not be that overt. But when you log Work at a company where you know a leader is known to be or have made jokes or outright comments about someone's gender identity or sexual orientation. You may limit your upward trajectory because you don't want to be outed right? We know that the hire someone climbs in the corporate ladder when you become a manager when you become a director when you become a v a v p or a v p as you go up the ladder your company and your colleagues want to know more and more about you. They do that for a couple of reasons because they want to know how you got to that place. But they also want to know for risk purposes right companies need to protect themselves. So I want to know more about you. Well, if you know that there are leaders in your company that would out you and fire you or basically in some cases maybe to suck. Mitigate against you you won't move up the corporate ladder. So we in sometimes trap ourselves in lower positions because it's safety and that's part that is a contributing factor as to why there is this this pay Gap is because there's this unspoken discrimination that we internalized and the cold ourselves back and we need to break free from that and Society needs to break free from them. I think the last thing I'll add is I think we're doing a lot to help equalize. It's ready quality for the LGBT community. But unfortunately, I think transgender people in our community aren't making as much progress as maybe the other letters of the alphabet and unfortunately, there aren't a whole lot of opportunities for them to be themselves in Corporate America. There's limiting career options where they're they know that there is that safety and they unfortunately a lot of that is in the Arts and entertainment space but no job It can be you know on a t show another be can be a movie star and so we have to as a society. We need to be start being more inclusive of transgender people in all walks of life because they are doctors and lawyers and engineers and check-out clerks and you know all over the board. They're more than just pop stars and actors and actresses. Definitely. I'd want to have a show on transgender specifically and I saw this movie called Marshall on Netflix and I didn't realize that transgender movement was totally kind of left out of the Gay Liberation movement, you know a couple of decades ago and I realize that it wasn't really met with that same kind of fervor and passion and I just had no idea but I think there is this kind of feeling that we need to have representation and kind of normalized this and cuz you guys mentioned there's this need for secrecy because secrecy means safety and I can't imagine whatever you identify with having to live in that secrecy off. All the time. I mean if you cannot be yourself, then that's already traumatic. If you if you show up every day and you have to just you know, hide into a box and perform a certain way. Even if it's just who you really are. It's very interesting. If you look at the income Spectrum within the LGBT community and I completely understand this there's a lot of anger about the distribution of wealth within the LGBT community and when you look at it, the individuals who are traditionally making the most money are individuals who are and have been able to be as normalized gender conforming as possible and that's because yeah, that's what Society that's what Corporate America has as required of us for such a long time. So it was it has been easier for folks like that to basically move up the corporate ladder log. Make those movements towards making bigger paychecks and it's very difficult because that means that the individuals who are outside of the norm or gender conforming that they are getting left behind and it's you're really talking about a lot of that is a safety thing. Right? It is a safety thing reason, why ones are successful is because they were it was easier for them to find safety because of who they were those who is less easy to find safety because of who they are and how they they present themselves getting left behind and we need to figure out how to end that I think there's a lot more movement in progress that we need to make in this film particularly and thank you for shutting further life on you know, kind of this income gap and kind of the wage disparities even among lgbtq community and you know, it just comes back to this idea of safety and we're you know, we're talking about financial change. Changes and I just keep thinking of Maslow's hierarchy of needs. You know, there's that first kind of run of just like you have to have your Necessities taken care of and if you're wondering do I have you know a place to sleep a night because I'm homeless youth cuz my parents kicked me out. I mean, of course you're not going to be able to even think about how to manage money or get money. And if you feel like you have to constantly live this secret life, you're not be living to your full potential. And so that's such a important connection that you guys discussed about financial challenges relating to this feeling of safety. And also what's acceptable in current society and in the workforce and you know aside from Financial challenges, I also wanted to talk about mental health challenges. I know mental health is a huge issue in the lgbtq community that info from that I found from the Human Rights Campaign stated that lgbtq people are more likely to have mental health and substance abuse issues plus a whopping forty percent of transgender wage. Adults have attempted suicide during their lifetime compared to 5% of the general population from your perspective. What are some of the contributing factors? I know we've discussed a lot of ready. But if you have anything else to add I'd love to hear more. I guess I have to kind of go back to the whole idea of past traumas in your life. And although we're very grateful that things are changing societal Norms are changing around gender identity and sexual orientation. There are still everyday people who deal with those kinds of traumatic experiences. And one of the the unfortunate things is that a lot of the traumatic experiences that lgbtq folks have are rooted in and based in their identity. It's not something they can change. You can't change your identity. Right? And so when you have all of these pressures coming from whether it's family or church or dead Politics or classmates whoever it is, you have those experiences and those experiences build up a an identity that is just kind of masked in all of this these unwanted feelings and those unwanted feelings. Unless you're really strong person or find the right support system them those experiences are going to come back to life in some other manner. We talked about the financial aspect of it, but clearly the ideas of substance abuse and mental health issues are around self-loathing and internalized homophobia are really really strong in the community and we are not getting or seeking the right kind of help to help deal with those situations. I think too. It's important to talk about these traumatic experiences as not as more than just these gigantic experiences wage. They can be a compounding of small experiences. So if walking down the street and getting yelled at and spit on and that being it for that particular for that day that being a good day long that shows you the context of the challenges of some people have if you know that walking into a story there's a good chance you might get kicked out because you don't look or act or sound quote-unquote normal. Those are kind of microaggressions that kind of compound on themselves each time they happen and make each day a little bit more difficult than it does for the general population and those the compounding of those experiences manifest itself, then in spending ridiculously drinking drugs other kinds of addictions and then eventually unfortunately suicidal attempts and a success the suicide. So I think it's more than especially for some in our community just these these one-time huge life-altering events, but sometimes it's these these micro exposed Is kind of just reaffirming that your your worthiness to society. Thank you so much for sharing that and I really appreciate you kind of shutting light on what the experience is for people who are dealing with these mental health issues. And I feel like it's a recipe of a lot of different factors as you mentioned. It's not just necessarily one thing and even the whole idea of you know, quote coming out of that sounds like very traumatic to me in and of itself like you having to like have this big declaration. Would you mind telling me about your story? Is that too much weird or I don't mind. I have a very kind of awkward story because of the way I was raised. This is David. I was raised as a Jehovah's Witness and on top of that I had physically and verbally abusive father and so I had who I think maybe early on sauce. Tendencies in me that he was maybe include into that I might be gay and so I think that they kind of exacerbated some of the experiences that I had going up but because my community was the church all of my friends were in the church and then my immediate family was in the church now for June as Witnesses when you come out they basically they excommunicate you and the family excommunicates you it it took me until I was about to get up the courage to come out. I had never been with anybody. I had never experimenting but I knew from an early age that I was gay and I was dealing with that wage and so it took me until I was twenty-six to finally get up the courage. I finally had a job I could support myself. And so I ended up leaving when I when I came out wage. My parents, I mean literally my mother was standing at next to my father and she collapsed on the floor. And so I it was almost as if somebody had told her I had died and I was scared because of what I had done. I you know, I kept on saying to myself. Oh my god. What have I done? What have I done? What have I done? And I I was I realized what I had done was I had been myself and that wasn't one that anyone in my family immediate family or the church wanted me to do. Unfortunately. Some of my extended family have been very accepting and very welcoming years later after I kind of reached back out to them. So I do have some family but you know, you have your biological family and you have your logical family and for me, my logical family is much bigger and more important to me than my biological family. I love that and thank you so much for sharing that I know I kind of asked you that on the Fly and I appreciate you sharing your story and I hope that Provides courage and hope and understanding for other people listening who might be dealing with difficult experiences as well. And like I thought that sounds very traumatic and I'm so sorry that you had to go through that and I can definitely see how that would affect your mental health and your relationships and your family and what we've seen in regards to mental health is that having a support network is so crucial and if you don't feel loved and support from your caretakers and that inherently is traumatic already, you know. Yes. Yeah, I think I think David's a story is is a little Slice of Life of what the experience of some lgbtq people have here. We grew up in a very conservative Church in a very conservative household where they didn't even encouraged him to go to college cuz why would you need to go to college? The Lord is going to take care of you you don't get everything to me take care of for you. So here he was comes out at 26 years old. Luckily. He had a job, but he knew he was going to lose all of his familial support system and all of his friends all the friends he had up until that point and you know, he didn't have a college degree at that point. So that just makes everything a little bit harder and and here he is a non-traditional student going to college several years after most of us have gotten our diplomas and or as our dog gotten our degrees so just it should slice of life or a slice of experience of what some lgbtq people deal with cuz things just aren't working according to what society says the traditional path because you age The traditional person. Wow, you guys are even more inspiring than I thought. I didn't realize all of that and I really appreciate you sharing your story because you know, when things are set up in a way that doesn't lead to acceptance or support or success then, you know, there's going to be difficulties along the way and it sounds like you guys have been really Brave and trying to overcome that and now really being a source of support for others to help so we try it's you know, I said this earlier today, but it's important here too. I think sharing stories is the way that we learn about how the world is not as we see it that the world is 7.4 billion different stories. They're all different and so we we can't overlay what we believe or what we think or what the way we act on someone else and say well, it'll be okay if you just suck. This cuz it was okay for me. Right the world is is different for every single person and the more we understand that the more we realize that the more we will have compassion and understanding about how other people are living their lives totally and you know, we're all the protagonist of our own stories. I think that's important to consider as well. You know, when we're thinking about these larger stories, so I wanted to talk to you about you know, this thing that some lgbtq youth fight for acceptance and support from their family, you know, something that we've mentioned already for someone who identifies as lgbtq and it's starting their adult life without much support and resources. What Financial advice would you give them specifically there was a study that came out with that Prudential did in 2018 and they found that of lgbtq folks roughly 50% of them did not have a basic banking relationship. Yep, with a checking or savings account. I think a lot of that has to do with the Youth of the community and the fact that so many in the community work in jobs Services where they're paid with cash and so they don't necessarily have that relationship or they don't trust banking services. They've been burned in the past. But the reality is is that a bank whether that's a Traditional Bank a credit union banking is going to be one of your foundational keys. So if you don't have a bank I would say that's the first thing Thursday to find a bank. There's several Banks out there and Credit Unions that do amazing work in the LGBT community. They've been there and they will continue to be there for our community. So find one of those dead and that kind of is I would say where you want to start there's always Educational Tools through those relationships, whether it's you're going to find information on their websites or you're going to Jersey And that they do classes or things like that that I think is a great place to kind of get your footing or your foundation. The other great thing is back in 2015 when John and I saw it on this journey of being bloggers and podcasters. We went to fincon for the very first time that's the kind of conference that brings together all these personal finance folks who are out there creating content and we were surprised that we were the only out people a conference of over nine hundred people. No one else was out and talking about money from the LGBT perspective last year in 2019. When that Conference was held we had a a meet up and there were over forty people in the room who are out there creating content that they need themselves identify or they are creating content for the LGBT community. So there's a growing voice of the individuals who are sharing the stories and poems. Formation about queer money about money from the LGBT perspective get out there find those voices find one that speaks to you and just kind of one last plug for for us John and I run a group on Facebook called queer money and that group is all individuals who identify as lgbtq. It's a safe space out for you to ask questions to basically cry out for some sort of advice. We're always amazed at the kind of the honesty and vulnerability that people have in the group and we love it because the answers are coming from folks in the group who have experienced and want to help so that's another place. You can look I love that. Thanks so much for sharing that resource and I encourage everyone to partake and and share. I love that. So I wanted to end the interview and see how you guys are managing your mental and Financial Health today, you know, I am You guys have gone through a lot with paying off your debt and then becoming entrepreneurs and I know you guys were Nomads for a little bit which we didn't really talk about but they have been Nomads going all over the world. How are you managing your mental and Financial Health today? Oh, that's a tough question. We have some at my do we have some wine, you know David and I think I'm experiencing. I think we're kind of right there with with but most Americans, I guess maybe most humans today are kind of dealing with we had planned for a 20 20 to be a great year for us. We had all sorts wage is prospects and much of our income comes from public speaking and brand Partnerships. And as anybody who kind of does that and does any sort of kind of Partnerships probably also saw that just kind of evaporated so we've we've lost we lost half our income relative to last year and considerably more than we had projected for this year. So long term were good financially and we had the healthy emergency savings time. Account so that we weren't really too concerned but things haven't really gotten much better yet. And so we're starting to feel this the financial stress of that now and I think that's why we did maybe enjoy the first couple of days maybe even weeks of quarantine, right? Cuz that was kind of a novelty and and who can't watch who didn't want to get caught up on their Netflix and after a while. It's just starting to take a toll on us. We've had some of our own challenges to be honest with you, but we're thankful that we we have each other and we do have even those virtual. We do have a support system of people to stay in contact with so long you were hanging in there. We know that we'll get through this we're making plans for the future but it has been kind of challenging. Thanks for mentioning that I mean. I'm feeling you know similarly with my business. I've definitely had, you know, fewer assignments and less income over the past three months. I felt like the first three months. I was kind of hanging in there more and then just the past three months. It's just Then going down and it's so scary because it just feels so uncertain and you know, I think a lot of us had this idea that it was going to be over by now or it was going to be over in some kind of tangible double time. And now it's just like??? And I think it's so easy to go insane with all of the question marks and I feel you it's like getting rid of Stuffy just to be in the house all day and try to take walks and get out. Just even if it's for 20 minutes and try to find something novel to do because yeah these these are hard times. I agree. I think another I will say I'm lucky to have the man I'm with I love John and I'm glad that I have him to be with during this time. And I think that's what I think all of us. That's you know, what we we need we reach out for those relationships. Maybe you can't physically touch them but reach out for those relationships. Ships of people that you would want to be reaching back to you, right and and that sometimes that's all it is is that you know a text that says hey, how's it going? I hope you're doing okay. Just wanted to send you a smiley face and sometimes that's all we need and sometimes that's all we can give and so I think that you know, that's we're whether we like it or not. We're not in this and we're in it together. All right, and we'll try to behave the best we can on our best behavior. He says of horns came up said well, thank you so much for coming on the show. This isn't such a great interview. Where can people find you and what are your upcoming wage workshops courses things that people can take advantage of to help manage their own mental and Financial Health sure. So we are we're the debt free guys pretty much everywhere pinterest's Club. Book Twitter Instagram, and we also have the criminal podcast as well as we just recently launched our debt. Lasso, It's a microsite that helps people with our unique method for paying off credit card debt. And then we have our credit card payoff course, which elaborates on that five-step process to pay off credit card debt and is a comprehensive strategy. That's so far of the last 18 months of the help people over $400,000 in credit card debt like about that. So if that's predominantly helps people get out of credit card debt, but if you're looking to pay off debt in general it can certainly help you out. And yeah just look for us or different guys., Perfect and will have the course in the show notes. So I go ahead that's okay. I I will add just one other thing when it comes to mental health one of the things that John and I have found has really helped us is to have a a system or a group of habits that helped train our birth. In or bring us back to places that are important for us to be in and we have created something called The Fabulous Life combo and basically it's it's some tools that we use on a regular basis that not only help us with making sure we're not spending more money than we make cuz that causes mental anguish and financial anguish, but also wage helps us kind of map out and continue to March towards what we really want in life. And that's something that we make available for free to your listeners if they want and that's something that we have available for free on our website just as combo pack of simple tools that you can use to give yourself that boost or two sometimes to be able to rant on the paper about how you're feeling and it's really good to have those kind of those things that help you maintain your sanity sometimes. So important. Yes. Thank you so much for sharing and we will have all of this in the show notes. Awesome. Perfect. Thank you so much. Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you so much for listening to the mental health wealth show if you like what you heard today, please subscribe and leave a review if you want to suggest a topic or simply say hello. You can reach me at mental health and wealth show at gmail.com. You can check out the rest of our content at mental health and wealth, and lastly. 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Gold with Jeanette Schneider Episode 64: Finding Alignment with Lisa Chastain

Gold with Jeanette Schneider

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Gold with Jeanette Schneider Episode 64: Finding Alignment with Lisa Chastain

"WELCOME TO GO WITH. John Schneider negative inspiration for bigger. Better more purposeful life. Each week we share wisdom insights and gold from those living their lives after twenty three years in finance. I left my executive roles. Advocate for women and girls in life love the boardroom and the marketplace now the CEO of live media. I am thrilled to create wellness based content and technology Saudi level up and become more conscious of your rebel. The live APP launched Christmas Day for Apple. Ios This purposeful content big conversations and a beautiful place for us to share our gold. Our Dreams and create community. Gold is a live media. Production brought to you from the sound studio at the live. Headquarters leased chastain believes that all roads begin at our values and our alignment to them. She shares the importance of our priorities. Our ability to say no and how to call yourself out. When you have moved out of alignment these has been coaching. Mentoring and advising millennials for nearly twenty years from an adviser and higher education to financial advisor. And does this season life coach. She has learned what it takes to make dreams become reality. Her company Belania Consulting. Llc Inspires women to be the boss of their finances and their lives by mentoring them on how to control their money live purposely and love their lives her number one bestselling book girl get your Shit Together. Teaches millennial women how to own their history with money so that they can boss up an owner futures. Lisa has recently been seen on. Cnbc NBC News Msn. Many O the Oprah magazine Fortune. An Entrepreneur magazine. She is also of Las Vegas Women. Magazines people to watch in two thousand eighteen. She's a Las Vegas native and when? She's not speaking coaching working on her business. She spending quality time with her family today. Listen is our own experiences with alignment mentorship and our advice to those who are seeking a bigger battery life. Let's Dugan I am so excited to have with me in studio today Lisa. Jane always being so supportive of this podcast Ernest project. Yeah well you're awesome. Oh you're sweet. Listeners are awesome. Thank you I wanted to talk to you about a subject that you and I discussed privately quite a bit and we were just talking about alignments. Yes and how important? It is to find alignment but to stay in and to be aware of that. And you've mentioned before and you're coaching practice that Utah you talk about money right. You talk about people's money stories and what it is that they're trying to accomplish and helping them understand budget but a lot of times. It's reminding them why Lineman is so important and that's kind of the root of of everything so I wanted you to talk a little bit about what that means to you when alignment means to me. Yeah I think that's important to define it because most most times when we feel off in our lives were not asking ourselves. Am I in alignment? But I think that Excuse me how I teach this to my clients and how it's relevant to me is that you have to. I think to live a purposeful life in a lineman it all it all ties to values and priorities and a lot of what happens in our relationship with time and with people which all correlates to our finances is at we're not living according to our own values and we're not holding boundaries firm for our values and we are not even clear about our own priorities and so for not clear about our priorities were not connected to our values were making decisions out of feeling and emotion. And that's when we feel like we're a hot mess and that's when we feel like our finances in disarray because that's like a tangible feedback to say. Hey where am I not living purposefully? Yeah I think it's really interesting. What you said about our own priorities. I actually recorded something recently about how hard it is to know what you're absolutely yes is our and your holy knows. Yes I think. Sometimes we allow relationships or the desire to help others to pull us out of our own priorities. If they're not really strictly lined up because we WANNA help or we think this is a good thing to do or some of its ego. Some of it's like it feels good to be on a border to do all of these things but then they're also taking away from other aspects of your life and I know that's like something I'm reviewing personally right now like how many things that my saying yes to you. Because it's a feel good thing like you said an emotional thing as opposed to does this match my list of absolute yeses so talk to me about prioritization and how to get to that space where you're like. This is exactly what I say. Yes to no problem One of the things I've been doing. Everything's a know until you convinced me otherwise I love that. Well I think that that That that you have to first be clear about what it is that want to accomplish in your life and I start with the end in mind with my clients and I always think about that. I will this matter when I'm dead and if it won't that I'm not going to stress over at add energy space to it but then also as business owners. Some of your listeners are business owners. If we're not clear on what we're trying to accomplish her what exactly want to accomplish. There's no metrics in place. There are no goals in place. We don't have the right money making activities attached to that. It's really easy to get pulled in. Different Directions I think that it it makes more sense for business owner. 'cause we're used to that but in our personal life what's holding. Us accountable And what goals do we have and without understanding how to measure those things? Money's one of those money in health. I would say our way we can. We can track that our money. We can track that but we have to find measurable ways to know whether or not we're on or off track. That's hard to do because when we're dealing with personalities and people and love which we often do in our personalized there aren't metrics to hold onto. Yeah I noticed for me personally when I'm spending less time with my partner. I'm not spending that connection time right near where it's more like who's got the kids. What's for dinner and those conversations are more abrupt about like tasks as opposed to actually connectivity and with my daughter as well I'm like hey baby no. You're supposed to be with me right now but I need to go do this thing and those to me are kind of the red flags like okay. I'm taking on too much. That's not within my control parameters right. It's not within the things that are pushing my business forward or my My desires for it but are instead of those blurry grey areas. Where say yes you say yes and then also? I think that we're really good at chasing opportunities or thinking. Hey this could be a great opportunity could meet this person or this could come my way and opportunities are there everywhere so we have to stop teasing opportunities and be clear about what's going to give us and fill us up and also help us live the lives the idealize that we want to live. And that's that's deep work. Yeah and I think that's a really. That's really profound thing because a lot of times we tell especially young people as they're trying to chase their careers like say us everything and you never know in opportunities. GonNa Knock and you never know and it's true. It's true but if you're finding that your health is is being de prioritized or your relationships are being de prioritized. That is going to be those moments that you have to have a talk with yourself. Sure where we lose ourselves. Yeah I believe that. What do you say to the person who is facing overwhelm and we all do right? We all have those moments where it's like. You feel like you're spinning. What's the first thing that you do to to help them? Get grounded or to help them find their way back to those priorities in a very simple easy way. It's to turn everything off Turn everything off and take a break. There is nothing in our lives that we can't stop temporarily even for an hour or two and when we feel like we're spinning it feels like there is no end in sight. It's okay to renegotiate. Its O K to change an appointment. I've had to learn to do this in my practice. My class actually love it when I do it. I believe because it's their opportunity to support me and we spent so much time supporting other people in our lives and our businesses but when we ask for that support and return often. It comes from me having to renegotiate my schedule for the day to say. I don't have the bandwidth to be present with you right now so I need to turn it off and dial it back and get home and cuddle with my husband or spend some quality time with my son or get outdoors even if it's for a few hours we can't afford that but when we live busy lifestyle sometimes our Our brains will trip us into thinking that we can't slow down. Yeah no it's very very true and I think having that I'm learning that this unabashed vulnerability where you show. Your humanity is actually far more appreciated than when you make up excuses or you try to tough it through and they can tell that you're not really present or you're not really there Not really prepared. Whatever it may be I think when you actually show that piece of that part of you that's human and say like Hey I am totally in. I Adore you. I want to support you however I don't have I one hundred percent today. I think that that it gives them permission to also have those types of conversations with other people. It does themselves. Yeah and they go. Oh maybe I maybe. This is a blessing. Yeah it's perfect practice of surrender. Yeah I my executive coachman time told me he's like I think it's so much more valuable for an employee to tell. The boss expects this crazy deadline and has huge expectations to say I can meet your deadline. But you're going to get about thirty percent right if you give me till this date at this time you're going to get one hundred like you're GonNa have my best because I'm enough time to research. I'M GONNA have time to think I'M GONNA have. I'll get you what want on your deadline. But you're not getting my all and I was like that's really powerful or able to say like. Hey I hear you and I can do what you want. But YOU'RE NOT GONNA get my very best and you want my very best because you value me and I think it's kind of interesting if you pay attention to the corporate culture we've been brought up to believe like go. Go go hustle. There's deadlines you have to be available at all times but now Oliver you've got all these metrics people are burning out. They're tired they can't meet their quotas. So if you have someone who looks at a Boston man. I am a human and I want to support you. But here's the deal How much powerful. Characterizations even in the workforce absolutely and it all goes back to priorities in my opinion that there are very few red flag high level priority. One has to get done of stuff going on in the workplace so that that of course everybody puts their time and attention to make sure a really important deadline is met but those are few and far between. I believe compared to the rest of the work that we're doing. It's so funny that you say that because I was thinking about that even with my own company of my own projects right. Because I feel like my hair's on fire I have deadline self imposed. I've had to realize that a couple of times I'm like I'm the one who is structured like we create continent these days. It goes to the studio and these days. It goes to the APP on these days and the team is highly flexible and can be like. Hey guys this audio didn't sound that great so we're gonNA pull it but we've got this thing and our guests just know that they have great content right there. They don't even know there's Times where I'm just like. Why am I so stressed out? And I think it's really interesting if we take a step back and even look at our self imposed deadlines and our own self-imposed structures and structure is a great thing to help. You live your life but if it's causing you more anxiety then it's time to reevaluate. It is and also I think what I think I'm hearing you say is that you have a value of integrity and that you honor what you say you're going to do when you're when you say you're going to do it. And that can also be something will trick trip us in trigger us because we say I've Integrity and that for me also value integrity. Because I know what it's like to be around people who don't have integrity and it. It goes both ways but integrity can also mean. Hey I know. I said that I would do this by this time. But I need to renegotiate it and you're still honoring your word by doing that. Yeah it's so powerful to like to be able to to take a step back and recognize. This is self imposed an yes absolutely value into I. I like reliable people so I'd like to be really yes I do. You know what I mean. I think that sometimes if we have an understanding of who we are as a human being so that rather than thinking that these are etched in stone this is who I am as an individual however and and give yourself that and I'm loving the word I've been playing a lot with the word grace lately. Yep Because I've even noticed that especially as I move into This kind of sea level and working with entrepreneurs and investors. And I'm like Oh my gosh. You know it's this. Grace in this place of integrity is also important in the spaces while we get to give each other grace. I think I think that's where humanity steps in to say. I realized that there's so many things most things that are out of our control and in a in a fifteen minute window. There's not a whole lot. That is you know if we're fifteen minutes later twenty minutes late. That doesn't mean that it's okay to be lakes. I value people's time but if something happens around me for example I got stuck in a del Taco Dry through like stuck. I could not move for twenty minutes and I was running to an appointment and I had five minutes to grab my Burrito and I got and my value system is. I'm on time I like people that I'm timely. And there was nothing I could do and I had to give myself grace. I had to breathe. I had to give the person at the drive-thru grace because there were things going on that. We're well beyond her control. I mean it was just chaos but it's a great example of where we can give ourselves grace and surrender. That's hilarious stuck in a terrible herbs. Car Wash the other day when you get in a line and yeah and it took forever and I was supposed to go pick my daughter up from school. I mean I promise to pick her up from the gate and I was like. Oh my God promises invalid. I can't get tar wash stuck and then I realize I don't have my debit cards to give the guy a tip and I'm like and I'm just Oh my God so I'm in terrible. Herbst calling American Express asking them if they'll give me a pin numbers. They can take a one time cash advance so I can go buy a bottle of water cash out of twenty so I can give the guy a five dollar bill. Thank you for washing my car and run. Get my daughter and apologize to her. And I'm just like this is all self-imposed and out of my control in a lottery as right like I had all these parameters around myself about what's right and what's appropriate and it was just kind of funny. I just loved that. I'm like why did that cause me? Such immense stress right. That's funny it's just a great example though. Just to to brush over talking about alignment We work really hard for those of us. Who value that to be an alignment. Meaning that you you know you wanna give someone who's a service provider a tip. Yeah cool but also like it's not always going to go away. Hello Control Freaks. Right but yeah. That's that's great. That's great story. Yeah I know it was really funny that I am one of the things I appreciate is that as I move into more further more fully into the spaces self development and create content. I'm also aware of the fact that none of us have all the answers. Even the those of us who are in the space in and went to help others we still suffer from the same anxieties or frustrations or we uncover a new wound or a new issue that we have to resolve. And I think it's so important that you have those moments that you can check yourself and you come back to space. And I think that's one of the greatest things that I've ever Benefited from in this medium is a practice of self awareness and that checking back in with self and kind of being able to say who is talking right now. Is this Mike. Ego Is this. My fear is this. May Excitement. Is this a wound from before and I think if anyone has the ability to do that kind of internal work or or check in and even recognize like when the voice in your head doesn't sound like how you WanNa sound to you. I've done that before where I'm like. Oh I don't like Kobe Sandra. Now Yeah that's not me. Yeah that's not me. That's conditioning. Very absolutely we've been conditioned especially Americans We're just conditioned to be a certain way and a lot of what we're finding with even our own children as restrained unwind. A lot of that as they're growing up coming through schools new research is saying. You don't have to be this way. This way actually isn't working at all. It's not working for so many people from depression. Anxiety in our societies so absolutely I. I think it's yeah and I think that's such valuable. It's such a valuable place to be in when you recognize that there are other ways. Do Things and there's support everywhere and nobody in. This is one of the things I realize as they got older. Especially none of us have all the answers. Everyone is making the next decision that they possibly can based on their life experience or knowledge base or their in tuition or whatever that looks like. It's just a matter of making sure that you're kind of holding yourself together and caring for yourself and staying with alignment. Today goal is brought to you by live media and the live at now available on the apple APP store. We believe that healthy you today leads to a healthier world tomorrow to that. End Created accountability features and form of curated coaches and thought leaders in a wide variety of areas. All to bring each person to their best self as a whole and how individual we do this through time. Proven tools offer personal accountability measurable growth a support system and community at all times with guests have access to accountability coach or to our network of coaches through email submission. Whether you simply want to goals that with a little support or have coached provide you a monthly plan. We've got you search live Media Inc in the apple APP store or linked to us through our instagram account at loves viral DOT media or mine at MSN. John Schneider. What do you say to people who are searching for that space of alignment? I know you said get quiet but do you think that it has to be this big ugly spiritual awakening more. Do you think it's just a matter of being like this is what holds true for me. I think it can be as simple as this is what holds true for me. I think that the difficulty comes with other people in our lives. And you've heard me talk about this before is that we can. We can uncover truths. I always say it's like like peeling a layer of an onion one layer at a time. And then there's another truth and then there's another truth and then there's another deeper layer or level of ourselves and and that's awesome to say. This is just my truth today. The problem comes with expectations of others around us because they've learned how to be with us a certain way and so as we start to peel that layer those layers back. Where we I believe need to be responsible is for clearly communicating. Where we're at now. We're not great at that. And that's where the self awareness comes in is finding language to communicate even a simple way. That doesn't work for me Someone can get that right and we have to learn how to communicate so other people can understand us which means we have to. I understand what it is that we need or what we're going through so it's as simple as saying. I value honesty. I'm going to be honest. I would like to request that. You're also honest with me and if you're not there will be some type of consequences or conversation around that right but we don't ever for whatever reason we're just going autopilot or removing so fast we don't have those intentional conversations and that's where. I think all the pain comes from an relationship. I love that the the conversation but intentional conversations right because I do think especially as like one partner grows in the other one maybe hesitant We have a tendency to often to kind of get on our soapboxes of grow right. I I know that. And we don't offer them the grace that we ask from others right and instead of of giving them time and space to adjust and understand We kind of become an answer. Them and I think that's dangerous. I remember interviewing Dr Melania. Ross Mills about this. And she's like I am of the mindset that you and relationships quickly yeah she's like it could be that you're growing right now in overtime. This person will follow you but you don't you don't get on. Your little soapbox also learned in this in the Self Development Community is that there are usually this huge swing in one direction right and near like I've kind of come back to a normal. I live in this world right so I still have to learn how to to befriend those around me and stay within certain relationships because we're we're it DNA or it's you know choosing choosing each other even if we don't always agree with each other Yeah what a more peaceful world would we live in? If we were able to say that generally I choose you for who you are. Yeah and there's no resistance. I'm going this way. I'm GONNA go laugh. You can go right or whatever you know. I'm GONNA wear black or white whatever that is but that we can choose one another and accept one another for where we are. And that's where I think alignment comes into. Play is alignment doesn't mean that you just sit around people who are like minded. It doesn't mean that you isolate yourself into a neo Nazi world. That's not alignment. In my opinion. It's about just choosing it from a place of perspective from a place of ownership and still choosing into this world but walking your walk and then and then more powerfully I think enrolling others to see it or to live a certain way because it works. Whatever that is for you. Yeah I remember. I'm a couple of conversations. They've had about relationships specifically in choice and one was They felt strongly that you choose your partner every morning This is the person that I choose every morning. I mean like them today but I choose them every morning and I had a A psychiatrist tell me that one of the things that he thought was the most valuable part of human life that will be the biggest Determination of your successes the person that you decide to marry. Yes in people. Don't think of marriage as being like this is my determining factor for success. But if you actually look at the interviews of most fortune five hundred CEO's and entrepreneurs and billionaires they'll say it's because of my wife because of my husband. I have this amazing relationship that has helped spurned and carried me forward and he was like you spend so much time trying to develop your life and who you're going right person who's in your ear in your bed right. Should be a big reflection of what you want to achieve and it was powerful. I agree and I think of it this way. The the world is Iraqi C. Every day we're out there in this rocky sea waves and their storms and all kinds of stuff but when you get home at night for me I want it. I don't want it to feel that way so to have a safe place to land and a safe place to go. That's my husband and I that we come home at the end of the day and we sit down and go. Yeah that it's restful and I. I think that's huge. Yeah no I love that. I love that my partner knife will very much the same. It's like you're the rock for one another and everything's crazy around you right. Yes and and crazy in your normal typical fashion right. You know you've got kids and you're getting them to this activity busy busy busy lives and you come back to each other. You're in alignment and you may not be in the exact same place all the time right but the one thing that I do appreciate about my partner is that from the very beginning of the conversation was I. Don't want to change you. But I want to be with someone who wants to be better every single day. Yeah and so there. Is that kind of growth expectation even conversations where he's gotten me and he's like I love you. I need to share with you. That today doesn't feel like growth. I want you to be better than you were. Yesterday in. This choice makes me nervous for you. I'm just like thank you for reflecting that back to me using my own language me. Thanks for holding me accountable. And that's another great word you know. We talk about accountability and I've been playing in that space now with the APP with live out were holding people accountable and trying to figure out various ways that we can do it and we don't want annoy but shirt offer guidance and one of the things that I'm becoming more aware of it's important who you choose to hold you accountable. Guess that you shouldn't have this enormous group of people who you're listening to everything they say but a trusted few. Yeah who are really either. They know the space that you're moving into where they have your best interest at heart And then they can hold you accountable. I think that accountability One of my mentors in life has said Accountabilities love and it is when it comes from love. Accountability looks and feels very different for different people. And I think that ultimately it's also understanding. What does that person need in the form of accountability? So I'll ask the question. Who Do you need me to be for you today? And that can be accountability. Just as much as you said you were going to do this. Why isn't it done? I don't even think well I appreciate that too because I was so many times. I I remember when I was going to divorce having friends saying that. What do you want from me today? Because I've just blubbering all over the place right and I was like. I just need you to listen. I don't need you to answer. And she was like okay because sometimes when people are in pain. You don't know what to say and that's probably the best thing you can do is what you need when I was going through. Ivf I remember people giving me all kinds of unsolicited advice. Yeah and I feel bad for women who are going through fertility struggles now. I look across instagram. And I see the stuff that they have to deal with because I remember. I remember a friend asking me. She said specifically. I don't know what you're going through so I need you to tell me what you want from me And I just said I just want you to say just want you to listen and all you have to say is I know. This is hard Don't don't tell me my baby is gonNA come on like it'll happy when I'm not trying. I don't don't turn encouraged me. Yeah just listen to me and tell me that you know that it's hard and I think that that was the most valuable conversation I had through the course of that entire journey and I think that's where a peaceful alignment can be. Also that friends don't have to be completely totally aligned doesn't have to be the Different movies you've seen the different girlfriend movies. I can't think of the name. But we're all these women that are supporting each other and they're like minded and they're basically bs one another guessing each other. Yeah Yeah Yeah but alignment can be. I don't I don't see it that way But what I see and what what I feel. Doesn't matter or pertain to your situation. So let me just be here. Hold space for you. Yeah I love that. I think that's so valuable because I think so many times and that's one of the things as I moved into this project. I had a lot of people around me. That would yes me and I had to be very where the fact that I wasn't getting their best advice I was. I'm like everything day. I have brilliant. It's amazing houses. Please what you know. And I'm like I got to the point where I'm like. I need people who are good in their space right. Who will say yeah? It's a great idea but think about this. You need to think about this and you haven't answered this question. What have you and so be also became and I know you do that. You surround yourself with people who know more than you do and you create opportunity for them to advise you absolutely I ask questions. I used to be the kind of person I was the overachievers student body President ACCOLADE ACCOLADE ACCOLADE accolade. Which was you know trying to cover up insecurity insecurity insecurity and I just needed to be liked and I needed to feel like I knew the right answer. Both of US coming from finance. I felt like I had to have the right answer around me all the time and as I've transition now into the full-time I am real deal. Coaching world. The questions are more powerful than the answers and so I started myself by from people and experts where I can. Just go and ask questions all day long and it's back and forth questions so there's no one that saying you have to do this way. We're just testing each other and figuring out what the right path looks like for the given situation because no situation is the same. Yeah no I appreciate that so much. I think it's so important to make sure that especially as you're building a career or your whatever you're building Family lifestyle whatever You're aware of the things you don't know right like you accept the fact that you don't know everything and it doesn't scare you because there have been times where I'm like. I absolutely do not know this piece of business but my old finance background is in my head. Be You have to know everything and like even if you didn't everything in that world sometimes you walked into a room like you did is like e. That's just the Ego Macho of that industry and I finally got on the phone with a friend of mine and I was like this. You're the only person Minitel stupid this part of the business. I don't know what I'm doing what I'm doing. This is not my specialty. But I know that you do and I need your help. I have the flags thrown. And he's like I'm in you know and you ha- and all of a sudden you start to gain that confidence as that person's reflecting back to you so that was one of the things that I think it's so important for people to hear like even as you're moving along in life if you don't have the answer you don't know something or you don't understand something. There is someone who is willing to help you but you have to be willing to be like. Don't let that discourage you in three off course correctly you have to be willing to be vulnerable but also I believe in the gift of Discernment Very Selective. With who we allow into that honorable space. And that's where I think we get hurt. Feelings get hurt relationships. Our and that's life. Relationships is life and that if we're not selective when we're not careful and we let everybody open to it then we're going to subject ourselves to unnecessary information or whatever that is that might not help us move to the next level I so in regards to discernment And I think that's I think it's a big word because I think it's something I didn't learn until much later in my career and that was damaging in a lot of ways but now it's Kinda like you feel people out right and you're you're a lot more aware of who actually is knowledgeable. And who isn't what would you say to someone who is young. That's going through and looking for mentoring. Everyone seems amazing. Great right there. Great more than me. What would you say to that person? I think that Again Vegas Las Vegas is the world of opportunity and people are chasing opportunity so it goes back to that is stop chasing opportunities and don't just look at a mentor as an opportunity. Find space with people create space for people who create space for you and And that that you spend enough time interviewing them spend enough time asking questions of them that the two of you you feel like you're a good fit for one another and a lot. A lot happens a lot in employment opportunities is it's an opportunity and you. WanNa put your best face on that you forget that you're also interviewing them and that that's okay you get to be selective and so two let a mentor. No Hey I'm just I'm just curious. I'm just feeling this out leading a someone who you need a higher as a business consultant. I just need to fill this out any. Let's test. It even do testing working run before we jump all and that's really really valuable for young person. I would say take your time for everything. Right feelings will come and go. And but if you take your time and again. When we're out of alignment we make really bad decisions for ourselves in our futures. Louis don't stop to think about what it is that we really want. And what's really important to us? Yeah I didn't make a decision recently. That was it was one of those shiny But at the same time you're like this doesn't actually fit with Yup. Am I walking away from something and I had to pull that fear away now? What are the other things that I think is really interesting is as I was coming through up through my career in my twenty s at a lot of people come to offer to be mentors that were not people I would want to be like You know there is your gentleman that was in the office next to me and you've been doing it for a lot longer than I had. I'd hear him screaming his wife all the time his staff hated him and he's like I'll mentor. You and I was like no. I'm good pass someone and having a couple times where people come and they had this like. Aol Bearman were and everything and it was with me. It was more like that. Sixth sense like you're not the kind of human being I want to be so I'm GonNa Pass even though you know you know more than me. I don't WanNA learn a part of the business and in both of them ended up some of their dealings with questionable and I ended up. There's a lot of people who mentor me. That have no idea because I haven't sat down. Will you be my mentor? I'm paying attention to the way they address people. I'm paying attention to the way they show them their knowledge in meetings and the they lead And because of them I've adjusted my styles. Many things that I do in order to kind of Mary that that style but not because it was a specific like ask right. Yeah and for young people I would say. Pay attention to how other people treat the people around them. So if you're looking for a role a role model or mentor or a partner or A boss whatever that is spend time watching who they are with other people and for my my husband. That was the first thing I did for two months. He was like I felt like you were interviewing me and I said I was and I was watching who he was with his mom who was with his son who he was with the server who he was with people out in the world did he have manners. That was the stuff I was looking for because at the end of the day however they're treating other people will ultimately be how they end up treating you. Yeah I know that very well right and I think it's it's so powerful to look for the the human and to look for the person. As opposed to the stepmom that they were they might take you access access right if you can look at the person and be lake. How do I want to model Behavior or or take on certain traits and characteristics within my own life and in my own world as opposed to like. What can they get me What I've noticed is when you have a wet. Can I get me mentality? You'RE GONNA get burned time and time again and you're going to see the people that you look up to are not so shiny when you get too close rates right. Yes gotTa do you gotTa Dig and wait and watch and see someone's true character one of the things I learned to was. I read a lot and so before I decided to develop the APP OF APP. I read on the book. How to build a billion dollar out. Okay I also read the book before you hire a software developer. Read This K. And Shine Roy. Software has no idea according. I'm quoting I'm trying to convince him to do it. And I'm talking to other people and he he doesn't know that I've read this spoken so it specifically says like work on projects together like it's as if you're dating see if you like each other and I talked to other developers and I knew he was the one I tell pretty quickly and it was funny because eventually like when we're ready start talking and I talk. Api Keys and code and native IOS native. And not and. He's just like what happened here and I'm like oh I read this book. That was one of the things that was also very valuable to me to be a seeker so when I'm trying to figure out what it is that I want to do in life I also We'll get quiet. Sometimes that alignment space where I'm getting really quiet and I'm recalibrating and figuring out what is it that I want but also educating myself so we're going Amazon open in a subject and it will find every bestselling booker on that topic and all recommendations by six books on one subject. Read every single one of them. But I'm going to go through and I'm GonNa Crash course understand is this for years is not for me. I think that's so great. That's such that's so great for any new. Stop any new thing that you think you might want to do for your listeners. Listening for anything you think you might want to make sure that you do the proper inquiry and you really look at values Does this align with my values and then to talents I talk about superpowers do my values and my talents align because no one wants to do something that they aren't built or designed themselves to do right like if you're not born to be around people if it's not something that drives you and you're out there doing that all day long at some point you'll fill out you'll you'll hit you'll hit a plateau or you'll wanna you WANNA quit But I think it's important to understand. The values typically don't change unless through personal development personal discovery. You uncover another layer and maybe you prioritize one over the other That your values typically won't change over your lifetime. Those will stay pretty similar respect Success might be a value that you have that may not change. Your priorities can always be renegotiated. And I think that's important to understand the difference. You can renegotiate your priorities. It's very hard to have more than just a few priorities at a time And so that's where alignment comes into play is. Are these my values and my living in alignment in accordance to my values but also are my priorities. Helping me move in the direction that I wanNA move. I think that's so valuable. I could see that being a worksheet. Here write these things down. What are your values? And what are for me especially when I was looking when I decided that I was ready to date intentionally. I was also not only writing on my values and what I brought to the table but the values of the person that I would want to bring into my life's any of that was very important that our values were similar and in alignment as well and then like you said. Priorities are a lot more fluid more based on what you're kind of going through and what you're you're dealing with at the time and they'll ebb and flow But I think one of the things. That's so important is if you feel like you're spinning out. If you feel like things are hard. I'm exhausted when I wake up in the morning. I'm I can't sleep at night. My mind is racing. I feel whatever. Take a step take a break. Take a moment and even if it's sitting down and writing out here my here are my values and my priorities. And what's all this great stuff around it right? It's going to help you chop and cut up and cut out a lot of those things that really don't don't matter correct correct and help you get back on back on track whatever that is and also one of one of my one of my mastermind communities we had a great speaker and he basically said if you feel overwhelmed you need to be responsible for it and not a victim to it You created it. Whatever it is. We don't take responsibility right. And this is the other thing that drives me crazy like I can control every single thing. That is a stressor to me like. We have a tendency to get into that victim and seeing and it's like my partner. Did this. My boss did that and I'm so sad and I'm so tired instead of being like okay. I'm the I'm the common denominator in this situation. And that's one of the things I realize. I am always the common denominator so every other piece of the puzzle. Every single piece of of the equation can be adjusted. And that's completely my responsibility. I love that you said that. Leaving it so valuable to get to a place where you're like. I am the captain of Yup. And you look down and you're like and so many people get in this. I can't it's so hard. Things are so hard to change any part of your life at any point in time S. any day and people do it all the time all the time and sometimes it's a little more challenging but I think sometimes even making the decision like if you're in a toxic work environment as and you all of a sudden realize I love what I'm doing but my environment is toxics and you make that step to update your resume and see if there's other environments that are better you are immediately your your your mindset is going to shift I am in control. I'm in control an invaluable. Yes I don't belong here yes. It's just a choice. It's my choice to be here. Yeah if so much choice in it I I think that's one of the things that's so important to me to make sure that our audience feels is. That choice is available to you at any point in time. Yes you have so much choice I want I know that I've asked you in the past these questions. But it's been awhile. Since they've they've changed okay so younger. Lisa Hell would she be? And what advice would you give to yourself? I have a new answer. Okay so I would give my five year old self. The advice that it's okay to be yourself and it's Oh it's okay to hang out by yourself. It's okay to be yourself. I got made fun of a lot by siblings even in so that it. It's okay thank you. Okay just to you. Yeah not needing validation now just you if you were leaving this earth and wanted to leave find some gold nuggets of wisdom and inspiration your legacy. What would it be? Two's love Twos loves be kind be kind. What's more important than that? That people can fuel loved and that there are important and that they're seeing and get out. Get OUTSIDE OF YOURSELF. Because that's a very dark and creepy jus- go go live on people and be kind people. I love that anything. It's so valuable like even with kids. My daughter we have conversations about friendships and things like that and how important it is like. We had this really great conversation. I'm like you know you're very smart near pretty girl. Those were gifts This came from DNA. They came from God they they were gifts. What I'm most proud of is that you are kind and funny and thoughtful. And she's like Oh. Those are my choices. She's like I choose to be kind and I choose to be funny as exactly so that shows me that in your heart like you WanNa be there stuff is it was it was given to you and it was just a really beautiful conversation for eight year old to be like. Oh I got it like I'm choosing these things and I think like you said she's left. Choose kindness choose compassion because at the end of the day any conversation you have with someone who's leaving this world tells you nothing else matters. Nothing else matters. Yeah absolutely much for sharing. Your golden being part of this things are having dollars. Thank you so much for joining today. I Love Lisa's reminder to get quiet with yourself that is where we recalibrate and begin. 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Jim Nagy, Reese's Senior Bowl Dir. & former NFL Scout

The Sporting Life with Jeremy Schaap

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Jim Nagy, Reese's Senior Bowl Dir. & former NFL Scout

"This is the sporting life on. Espn radio and the ESPN APP. Here's Jeremy Shop. Our first guest his name. Is Jim Nagy? He's the executive director of the senior bowl. You see him on. Espn talking about draft prospects talking about the combine talking about his event the senior bowl as well. It is a pleasure to welcome to the sporting life. The Great Jim Nagy Jim. Thank you for being with us. Yes Jeremy's thank you for having me on. This'll fun so this is your second year as a commentator for ESPN on all things NFL draft. But you've been in the business. You're not quite as old as I am but we go back to. I think one thousand nine hundred ninety six when you were working for the packers as a public relations inter. You've had a remarkable career path. I would venture to say a unique career path in the field. Would you tell our listeners? A little bit about your progression. Yeah it's it's definitely unique Back in the mid nineties you know. I grew up as a kid always wanting to scout. Nfl in back in the nineties. There wasn't really a foot in the door path in scouting. They didn't really have scouting internships scouting assistant positions back. Then now most teams. Have you know two three or four? Those so it's easier to really the only way into the NFL Entry level position was through through. Pr Internship so. I did that that you're in Green Bay and ninety six in Green Bay. Yeah it was a good year to be in Green Bay with Brenten Reggie those guys and Very fortunate year and You know also have the good fortune to meet your your father Mr Dick SCHAAP and What was just a great year at that you know I was. I was really lucky. There was five future. Gm's on that on that packers scouting staff and Sat right there were five. Yeah I was still with Ted Thompson. John Dorsey John Schneider Reggie McKenzie and Scott. Mcclellan so yeah there was five future. Gm's and I was Fortunate once again when when John Schneider Got His first opportunity to hire and fire staff He made me as West Coast Scout for the redskins back in two thousand. I believe so that you know that it's one of the things you get your door and you start rolling. You work hard but Yeah it's been it's been. It's been great eighteen year scouting and then Two years ago two summers ago summer of eighteen I transitioned into this role at the senior bowl and It's been awesome. It's been a really fun. Two years do it this I still get to do. I love to do and that's evaluate players and and You know take on a lot of other responsibilities as well and including this. Espn stuff. I'm doing around the draft and And it's been great. It's been it's been. It's been a fun ride. We're speaking with Jim Nagy. He is an ESPN commentator. He can be seen all week on. Espn HEARD ON ESPN radio. Talking about the draft. Nobody knows more about this class of players coming out of college who will be available in the draft not to mention the guys working to get drafted but are gonNA be free agents. Jim Spent just turned eighteen years as an NFL scouts. He's been running the senior bowl for the last couple of years. You notice that Jim. I said Reece's that time I knew you would appreciate that. Or what? What was it like being a scout for two? Demi we stated touch. We've been friends for a long time and I knew it was your dream job but it's it's not an easy job. No it's it's not in. You know you get asked a lot when you're doing it. Oh you people find out what you do and ask if you love if you love doing it and you have to love what you have to love it because it's not easy again there. There's a lot of hard professions out there not making not trying to make scouting sound like you're curing cancer or anything else. But I mean there's a lot of difficult jaws but it's not glamorous Just because you work in the NFL like that's it's the furthest thing from glamorous. You're you're on the road you know. One hundred seventy five two hundred nights a year and you're staying in courtyards at fairfield crisscrossing the country and A lot of acquaints. It's a Lotta Mary points. That's a that's a. That's a bonus. I'm lifetime titanium elite with Mary out but but you know it's one thing when you get started in the business you're young guy you're on your own but you know when you get older and you have you have a wife and kids and then it gets really hard. That's that's when there's a lot of pressure to the job But it's you know it's it's it's a great occupation. You know you stay involved in the sport that you love and you have input on the draft process which again was was my goal growing up just to help build a team that was always really captured me with the team building aspect more so the coaching people ask why did not get into coaching. You could just the building building the team really really what what got me so no it was It's not easy but it was a lot of fun and this senior bowl job again. With the reason I jumped at it was it was an opportunity to continue to do what I what I really enjoyed But not be on the road as much. Be More you know. Be Present more from my family and Again eighteen years only got never got to make a pick and now I get to make one hundred and twenty six year. That far fen fun. It's interesting the leaves change so much. And there's so many younger coaches coaches with different backgrounds. From what it was like when you were getting out of school in the mid one thousand nine hundred if you're that guy today instead of say one thousand nine hundred ninety six. Do you think coaching would be an avenue? You would consider it. Maybe maybe I I don't think so but it. It's changed a lot. Jeremy and this is You know the whole the whole football world. This is skewing a lot younger. These days. Coaching got a lot younger. I mean when I started scouting as in you know. Twenty five twenty six. I think it was my first year on the road. And you go into some of these. You Know College. Buildings and and every single coach on the staff was twenty years older than near the younger guys in the staff at the in their forties. And that the older guys it'd be in their seventies and now it's just because what recruiting is nowadays and and social media in in doing the recruiting thing on social media. I think really squeezed. You know the older generation coaches out of it in the same thing has happened with scouting. Same exact thing You know the advent of the laptop really really Squeezed a lot of older older scouts out. Which is unfortunate 'cause I used to love going to schools every day and showing up at school couple. Older guys from another team would be you know in the film room with you watching film all day and it was just great to pick their brains and hear stories that It was that was really fun. Part of it and you know when I got out of it two years ago I mean here I'm in my mid forties and I was one of the older guys down the road So now it's really. It's really been twenties and thirties Dominated on the scouting side so That's just it's it's that way across football. We're speaking with Jim Nagy. He's the executive director of the senior bowl. He spent two decades in the NFL as a scout working for the Patriots. The chiefs the seahawks Super Bowl rings. Do you have Four yeah it was really really lucky we went to six six superbowls one. Four of them and The the two we lost Was the one was the David tyree catch from the giants beating the Patriots. Grace play in the history of football indisputably and then back in the same building in Arizona. with the SEAHAWKS I lost the one on the Malcolm Butler play against against the Patriots when I was in Seattle stuff losses. Those were those were the two. I lost so my my wife jokes if I got back in the NFL and the team. I was working for his lucky enough to go back to another super bowl and it was in Arizona which we just stay home gym on during the draft. It's not one day It's several days of course during the draft as a scout when those calls are being made By the general manager by the team president whoever has the title in the Authority at that moment and in their Make a decision about a player. You scouted what what's going through your mind as a scout in that moment you know. Jeremy that's that's an interesting question because it it. It really varies on. What team with So every team does a little differently. some teams have really small draft rooms? Where they'll be you know just a couple key decision-makers my time in New England you know very small room it was it was Scott. Dot Coach Belichick Ernie Adams. Who's who is Coach Bill Checks. Kinda right hand man and our college director was really like four guys Mr Craft and then you go into the flip side the other end of the spectrum and Seattle. It was the entire Scouting Department When we got close to making our pick the coaches came in and it was very collaborative. Even right up to the time. You're on the clock You know John Schneider the GM there did a great job of making everyone feel a part of it and You know he would come to you as you know. We're getting ready to make the pick and and ask for your final sign off on the player and things like things of that nature so It definitely varies from team to team. But when you're with the team that that makes you a part of it It's a great way to end the process. Because you do as we as we spoke about you put so much into the fall in the winter and the spring. Finally get the draft day It feels good to be a part of it. You know one of the big questions. And you're down in Alabama Is How you assess to a tongue. Vilo right now who had a remarkable career but has suffered an injury And there's so many question marks or there could be how do you how do you look at him right? Now is a draft prospect or Jeremy. You're right. He had a remarkable career living down here when he started his career. I was still in the NFL. And and I've seen to play a ton of football over the years and had a great career But this hip injury and Kinda volume of injuries It's a. It's a difficult thing reconcile right now. And that's what that's what teams are trying to go through So you know a lot of it right now is on everyone's medical staffs and this is. This is the part of the process where the medical people and the football people butt heads a lot during the pre draft process. 'cause you you a lot of players and then the medical people come in and do their evaluations that fail. Good players physical So you have a lot of Heated debate in the buildings between those two staffs. But that's all it is. You're trying to figure out. Could figure out what the injury is. In what the likelihood of reoccurrence with this hip 'cause that's That's a pretty serious injury you know if it's just football. I think the guy is going to be a really good star. I think most people would say that But you know the injury thing is real It's it's a roll the dice and what I've tried to do is bring it back to the to the year. Nineteen Ninety six when I met you. And your father in Green Bay Brett Farve. He was a guy when Ron woolfe you know. Brett was the third stringer in Atlanta that rookie year after they drafted him and didn't look like his career was going anywhere in Atlanta. And Ron woolfe wants to trade for him well. The medical people in Green Bay tried to block the trade and Ron had veto power and I made the trade goes through You know 'cause. The medical people had failed bread on. His physical theory came out of southern miss so And obviously we see how that turned out he was. You know the the game's all time Ironman so it really is it really is a roll the dice for team and I can see it going both ways. You know. It's GonNa be interesting to see where he goes. That's kind of the main sell thought of this draft. I would say hey. I saw you tweeting the other day. I think it was after some of the stuff that had happened in. Houston with Bill. O'brien but imagine what the reaction would have been. When Ron woolfe traded a first round pick for Brett Farve back? What was it one thousand nine hundred eighty one? I think that was the question you were asking. Yeah just loved the reactionary the reactionary tone of of social media right now and right now bill. O'brien he's Kinda the the punching bag. Every every it seems like everyone wants to be the first one in on on on. Bashing Bill. O'brien Judas. He makes a move but You know I guess it's the Ron woolfe example Brett. Farve example is You know just showed us. Maybe we should wait and let these things play themselves out. I know I know when you. You Trade De'andre Hopkins who's one of the best players in the league and some of the other moves that made It's a lot. It's shocking to some people that sometimes. Sometimes these things turn out differently than we all think Joe Boroughs going number one But he's as we know not the only quarterback available How do you grade the quarterbacks and there is so much emphasis as always more than ever? I should say on the quarterback position. Yeah generally I do think this is a class especially at the top. It's not very deep I don't think you see you're gonNA see a Lotta guys go on day three But up at the top all four guys that are being talked about up there Joe Borough lsu to Justin Herbert from Oregon in Jordan. Love from Utah. State all four of those guys you know in the right situation can be really really good. Nfl quarterbacks and I would I would throw Jay Chrome and they're a big believer in Jake from an in jalen hurts Has made a really Nice Roz through this process. So it's really good at the top usually. There's a couple of guys in every class that I feel like just going back to my time and scouting I felt like we're really inflated and overdrafted and I don't think that's the case with any of these guys I think all of them Have a ton of talent and can be high level. Starters you know in the right situation. It's such an independent physician if all goes to Cincinnati and they don't throw them with a lot of a lot of good pieces We've seen going back over time. And the David Carr Enjoy Harrington and players it ended up really bad situations You know they can get shellshocked early and never recovered so I just thought that You know all these guys in Atlanta in a situation where they're surrounded and they have a chance to be successful we speak with. Espn draft analyst. Jim Nagy this is our sporting life. Nfl draft specialty draft. Coming up Thursday Friday and Saturday and you mentioned Jordan love from Utah State and I noticed again on your twitter. Feed this week You think there might be some misdirection out there. Some people claiming at least one person out there claiming that he shouldn't even get drafted. How much subterfuge is there? When we're looking at public comments from people in the League about where players might go how much how much of it is posturing. Yeah that's the funny thing now that I'm not out of the League Misinformation and smokescreens that you know that people talk about when I was in the NFL. And just knowing the guys I've worked with we didn't really pay attention to it so I don't know who it's really affecting. I Dunno I all this stuff gets out because I I really don't think the guys in the NFL pay too much attention to what's being talked about. you know publicly in the media but there is a lot of crazy stuff that comes out this time of year. There really is Jordan love. He's not going to get drafted. That's that's crazy talk to me. I mean the kid you you I mean. He's a little polarizing because his junior tape and senior terrorists. I'm sorry a sophomore tape in his. Junior tape is so different You know especially numbers wise but It's easily explainable. When you look at the background of the of the circumstances and you know losing a lot of players and coaching change and and whatnot. But there's GONNA be guys arguing both sides. He would he would probably be the most fun guy is drafted being a draft room Just to hear the debates and the conversations about him. Because I've talked to a lot of guys I respect in the league and and there's a little bit of variance but no one sees the guy like outside of the late first round or the second round. It's just you know how early you would wanna take him because there are those concerns but yeah this this time of year is crazy with some of the stuff that gets out these. These two weeks leading up to the draft. You almost have to ignore most everything here Jim when you were when you were a scout and you were part of the decision making process for teams about who to draft and maybe one day you will be again What you listen to you. Listen to your heart. Listen to your head. It's obviously got to be some combination of those factors. But what are the things that really matter for you? When you're making those decisions that could be so consequential for the future of the team and for the player? Yeah I you know I think there is a there is a gut instinct there. There is an intuition there when it comes to player valuation But I just feel like it. You gotta go back to the work that you put in. And that's why the fall is still important because you're out of the schools and and I probably told you this privately before Jeremy that teams have been with that have made mistakes players or you know Near PLAYERS JUST NOT PAN OUT I. It's it's a lot more to do with the person than the player The easier part is is watching the tape and figuring that out the harder part is really figuring out the person because you don't really have a lot of time with these players that he even he talked about the pre-draft process January February march April and the lead up all star Games. Combine it really per player. You don't get that much time to to to figure out million a million dollar investment North these quarterbacks twenty five thirty million dollar investments so you really gotta rely on those people that have spent time with these these kids throughout their lives going back to high school or youth sports and into college Those are the people that know him. And that's why the relationships are so important from a scouting perspective That's why you have to go into these schools and and and and really develop those relationships because you have to get the real scoop you have to you have to get You have to get good information because that's what you really have to rely on people that know them best because you just don't get a chance to to know him like you should before you make such a such a consequential consequential decision on these guys You gotta go. You GotTa go with Your Gut. You gotta go with the information and you just gotTa keep asking questions through the process you never. You can never feel like you really know the player I mean I think the the teams I worked for that. Did it best. You know we worked at thing all the way up to draft a you know we were always making calls and follow up and trying to reach out to as many people as we could. How thorough is that vetting process? How far does it go? Is it like an F. B. I? Background CHECK I mean. He's there You know are there. Investigators or is it really scouts and coaches. Were just calling people who know the player in question or is it more professionalized than that No it's you know Jeremy it can get to that level for sure But most players just start you know from from personnel department level in this couch that go through the school But then if you start to uncover some red flags definitely you can get You know every team as a security person on staff and a lot of them have. Fbi background Cia backgrounds and they have their contact. So yeah it can get to that level as well there's always More than a handful of players in every draft where you're enlisting you know sources even sometimes To help you out through the process and local authorities you'll reach out to local authorities and the different college town so You know 'cause sometimes stuff gets buried these schools don't want everything getting out and sometimes you'll have to measure but yeah I mean just you know any measure you can take to to figure these guys out. You're going to do it because the worst thing that can happen and we can cite a lot of different examples but you know players that have been drafted and then things come out subsquently right after the draft. You know that makes the team look like they didn't do enough homework to me. That's the most embarrassing thing is when when character guys get taken and I think Kristie Peter was a probably the most high example with the Patriots back in the day after he got drafted And You you don't want that to happen. Yeah and then they. I mean that's stuff was out there right. But after Myra kraft You know found out about it. After he had been drafted by the Patriots. They released him And that was apparently a decision. That was very much driven by hers. I recall don't have that right. Yeah I believe you're right. That was well before my time there but I will say during my time with the Patriots. That was that was kind of a deal. Breaker anything Anything domestic related violence against women that go off the board. If there's anything domestic and that that stems from from Mrs Craft Will Jim. It's always a pleasure before we let you go. We're GONNA Tanenbaum on later as well and I'M GONNA ask him. The same question is there. Is there one guy in the draft? You have your eye on Maybe other people aren't looking at the same way Who you're eager to see performing League You know there. There was a couple from the senior bowl that you know. There's some guys that come down here that just S- really pop out and a guy to me that you. I think he's probably going to go in the second round somewhere in that range Meld have him in his second round. I got after Mel the other day but that I it is Michigan linebacker. Josh Luce and Josh is the guy that I felt like with the second best player down here in mobile at the senior bowl behind South Carolina's Devan Ken Law. John's going to be a you know probably going to be a top twelve thirteen. Pick in You Know Josh buried a little bit at Michigan. He was behind some good players. You know last year they had Sean Gary go in the first round of the packers and chase win to the Patriots in the third so he kind of played in rotation with those guys and But if you look at his production for snap fifteen and a half sacks over the last two years in his playtime percentage compared to those two guys was significantly less so whenever they asked him to do anything and and be productive get after the quarterback he could do it and then he came down here to mobile showed what he can do and coverage so he. There's not many linebackers that can cover and affect a quarterback. Josh can really do that so You know just looking looking outside the first round that not. Everyone's talking about right now. I would probably say Joshua J. from Michigan Jim. Nagy were the smartest guys in football work in this week as he did last year for. Espn is a draft analyst. He's the senior. He's the Executive Director of the senior Bowl Rhesus senior bowl as he reminds me and spent two decades in the NFL as a scout. Jim It is always a pleasure. Thanks so much for having joined us. Yeah Jeremy thanks for having me on. I'm Jeremy Shop and you can listen to new editions of the sporting life every Saturday and Sunday morning on ESPN radio and ESPN APP. Beginning at six. Am Eastern time.

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The Love Is Viral Show Bonus Episode 77: Three Things Kids Need From Their Parents with Olivia

Gold with Jeanette Schneider

13:45 min | 6 months ago

The Love Is Viral Show Bonus Episode 77: Three Things Kids Need From Their Parents with Olivia

"Welcome to the love is viral show I'm your host. Genetic Schneider the founder and CEO of live media and the creator of the lift pocket coach on Apple for. Our premise live is simple, a healthier you today leads to a healthier world tomorrow. Our guests include neuroscientists, therapist professors, coaches, authors, yogis speakers, entrepreneurs, and those who believe that had bigger battery life can be found at the intersection of mindfulness and science. Join me as we nerd out with a little bit of soul. The love is viral. Show is a live media production in a rare behind the scenes. Scenes interview my daughter. Olivia shares three things. All kids need and talks about what it's like to be a kid. mbappe Olivia named love is viral and would like to be a scientist and child author. She recently skipped third grade and equal parts, logic and soul. This episode was spurred by a deep conversation about feelings and her desire to get recorded as soon as possible. Welcome to my world. Hi. This is John Schneider with the love is viral show. This was a last minute decision to come on and do an episode with the Fabulous Miss Olivia. How are you today? Olympia Gate good again I have had some really important conversations over the last couple of weeks and the we realized. Maybe we wanted to share some of them so as asking Olivia today to share with me what she thinks. Kids need most from their parents like three things that kids need most so Olympia. What is number one? Well. Kits need attention from their parents especially if they have a younger sibling. Like the older siblings need more most likely need more attention than they actually get. Because younger siblings get more attention because they have more needs than the older siblings can feel left out sometimes or feel like they're. They're getting like lonely, so they needed. So when you say that they need attention because of the younger siblings. It's not that they are like. Oh, I want all the attention. It's no, it's not like that. Like babies and younger kids have more needs, and so your parents attention has been split, and so you're basically lake. You just need to make sure that the parents are aware that they need to like. We like. Block off time for you. Or what kind of attention do you want? Like. Mainly just. I get bored. EASILY, 'CAUSE I. Rarely have anyone. To, like play with. So. It's kind of hard for me and I. Don't get as much attention. And I'm her only daughter but I have a little brother and. He gets a lot of attention. I don't mind though because I know he needs more attention. I didn't yeah. Yeah, and then with you. You. Have your work stuff which I understand. But. Like with you doing all your work stuff that makes me get bored easier and. You I have no one to play with. Yeah, it's it's been hard. Especially because with the pandemic right, you're spending more time. During the hours to be working. Right and also. Some. Some. Sometimes I use. Go Up and ask you like Hey, do you WanNa? Play Deta with me. And I'm GONNA save this. So, Just a few minutes ago. I was crying, because I'm frustrated that my Lego set which took me like two weeks to work on, and I'm not even halfway done fell off. My Dresser in broke into pieces. But. I can honestly the furnished just in building them? Swag can start building it again and I can just get over that. It broke. It's a really good point and something. We'll talk about in a minute after we got through year. Three things that kids need is managing your thoughts right. Okay so, what's the second thing that kids need? They need second chances. If you only give your kid like one chants. It's kind of hard. For them to like? Well! It's hard to explain, but it's better if you give a child to chances or give kid to chances. Because sometimes, that's what they need. They make a mistake. Instead of instead of just only giving them one chance or something let them try again and let them try and make it better or not make that mistake again so rather than reacting getting really angry the first time they make the mistake. Let it be more of like a learning experience, and then being like. Hey, here's what you gotTA. Do for next time. You mean yeah. Okay. Four number three the third thing kids from their parents. Oh also. They need emotional support. Not Tell her to. Tell me what you mean by Mersal support. Like. Sometimes kids don't understand emotions and they need someone that they know love and trust. That wouldn't that wouldn't dare. In. That would never judged them over their emotions. And we've from the very very little. We've talked about emotions right? Yeah, because of your wanted to express herself, and she did a very good job of expressing herself when she couldn't speak, but that usually ended up face creaming. You always let us know that something was up so when she was very little, we had to actually give her the stall. The how these interchangeable. Like feelings and it's pockets, and she could actually get the doll on the front of it was. It's face with whatever feeling this feeling that expression in the back of it was the name of that feeling. And so cool, yeah, feeling flash carts I don't remember that, but that sounds awesome to help a little kid controller feeling. Do you remember the bugs? They are the feelings books. Yeah, yeah, those were fun. Yeah, those are really easy. Because I'm feeling, books would go through an emotion and Shirley. You're angry, sometimes stumping around and throwing things, and here's what to do with your anger, and sometimes you could feel like lashing out at people like hurting them, but it's better to just. Try Your best. Yeah, it was really funny because we found the books recently, and all of the books were like really well taken care of except for the anger book had like scruples on it and stickers. Which is pretty funny, so I was like. Oh, she really either. She's mad at the anger book or She's. I'm not sure. I don't really know. This. So. Let's talk about how to how to manage your thoughts like so last night we had a conversation about. Things that we know that we want to improve And ways to do that flake. What's your take on that? SAW Would I like to do with that type of stuff. I like to think about things I improve on me to school camp. Whatever because I'd rather have happy thoughts before like we talk about happy thoughts in good things that have already happened before I fall asleep so i. don't have negative thoughts on my mind or like. You need to improve this, which keeps me up really late. And, so we decided that instead of at night when we asked the questions whether you're grateful for what he need to ask for help with instead we would talk about the things that we are going to improve. In the morning as we're starting our day so that we can have that frame of mind, right so that you know, and then at night, and this was what Olivia asked me because in the passive. Like let's talk about things. We're grateful for and we've talked a little bit about how that's because it helps like with your brain chemicals right if you talk about gratitude that actually affects your brain chemicals. It's not just a fun thing to do, but she said. Can we talk about the five things that we like about ourselves the most so if we're thinking about the things that are considered. Not even negative rights, not negative. It's things to improve. Yeah, right then. We want to talk about the things that we really like about ourselves. What? About Yourself. I like that. I like. that. Oh Yeah. I like that even if his addressed in a youtube video or someone that's not related to me, even if it's a cartoon or anime, or whatever like that I will feel bad for that person. Even if it's not my fault, they're sad and then if they're happy, that will make me feel good on the inside. And remember what that's called. Empathy. I found a hole in my soul. You. Some new sucks. You like they have. You're empathetic. Empathy I think that's one of your gifts. It's also a thing that we have to learn how to like rain in right so that you can manage your emotions. So, what was your big decision this morning as you were going to school or to camp? The IF I If I, think anything negative. which is what you told me if I think anything negative, then just switch it to a positive thought. We talked about the possibility of incentive. Having negative thoughts run our day because instead of being like this is hard or whatever. To like this is fun and all. I can make it to where it seems easy. Yeah! And giving ourselves credit for the fact that we're learning, right? We're not going to get it all right all the time, so. Is there anything else that you would wanNA share. With the kids things that they could. They should know or that would help them. From your heart. Well. If you're feeling sad. Take. A depress breath through your nose. Out. And say I've got this. And ask, yourself. What am I sad about? And if you are in an path. Then, ask. Is this sadness, even mine? So those. That's. Mommy's told me to do. Ask myself questions to figure out my sadness. and. I haven't really got a chance to try it yet. Because I haven't been to sad. Sometimes it gets out. I forget to do it. But I try. I. Try to remember whenever I get sad i. try to remember in I dreaded, do it yeah, it's something that's like. It'll be something we continually work on. Because, if one of your guests is the fact that you can feel other people's emotions and empathize with them, you have to make sure that you manage on the other side of that right, so they didn't become overwhelming. Right well I really appreciate you being on my show today Libya as you know. The name of the show is love is viral. You named it. So what are you doing to make love? Go Viral, or how do you think other people can make love viral? Spread hogs. And Love. And always have hyper. Expert. Thank you so much for joining today. I never fails to as me with her depth of understanding and compassion I truly just love and adore being her mom I feel like her life concierge and sometimes in the conversations. She teaches me so many times in the conversations. She teaches me. I think we truly should make Hashtag. Share hugs trend. Thanks for joining today. As always please subscribe lever a review. Don't forget to share with your friends. 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Gold with Jeanette Schneider Episode 61: Duality & Creation with Sylvester McNutt III

Gold with Jeanette Schneider

47:40 min | 9 months ago

Gold with Jeanette Schneider Episode 61: Duality & Creation with Sylvester McNutt III

"WELCOME TO GOLD WITH. John Schneider negative inspiration for bigger. Better more purposeful life. Each week we share wisdom insights gold from those living their very best lights after twenty three years in finance. I left my executive roles. Advocate for women. And Girls in life love the boardroom and the marketplace now the CEO of live media. I am thrilled to create wellness face content and technology Saudi level up and become more conscious of your ripple live APP launched Christmas Day for Apple. Ios This is purposeful content big conversations and a beautiful place for us to share our gold. Our Dreams and create community. Gold is a live media production brought to you from the sound studio at the live headquarters semester mcnutt believes in the beauty duality and allowing all aspects of self to be accepted underexplored. He is the best selling author of eight books and Inspirational Speaker Youtuber and podcasters who explores ideas during healing self love and finding yourself today semester and I dig into the concept of duality and have a deep beautiful conversation about the birth and life of an author and creator. He shares the story of how he found his vulnerability and his voice in the pages of his notebooks. We talked about the importance of authenticity online. And the advice. His often asked for by his readers. Let's dig it. I'm so excited to introduce to the gold audience Sylvester mcnutt. Thank you for joining me today. We're opportunity to speak to you and to share some time. John I love that I am. I have been paying attention to you for a while. And you are a soulful creator I know that you have several books out and have really built a platform in self development and everything that that comes from your content has been so inspirational and there's a couple of things. I was hoping that we could kind of chat about today. and one of them specifically. You talked about duality. Which I think is a really interesting subject because we have a tendency to kind of disavow the darker parts of ourselves or the things that we don't like about ourselves and I was hoping that you could share with me like what your impression is of duality. What means to you and why it's important for us to embrace it off and there's this idea in this image that a lot of embraced except that we do. We do know that we already know that we already have the answers or because something used to work in the past he's going to working feature in a cons of knowing that I feel like a lot of people and just knowing gives people more cops and Direction and understanding but that should be. We don't always know and just going to work in future because nowadays is there's our is still allowed to be caught my opinion wanting to know but the truth is there so much. Don't not even if you take an expert meaning field you know. Take an expert carpenter. They may be the best partnership work but they may not even watch change her. So it's about to me is just about acceptable. I may be expert where you may be some me. I'm an author of a book because so much. I don't know there's so many things that I can't speak to and with that a lot of people were just shame when they don't know they can't over me admit. Hey I don't know I'm no best pet. I mean you know talking. I mean one mason. There's like this shame because your respects people who are charge in person. I like with easy except for my own. I I are trying to talk. Some are already using those is located. It's okay you know. Aw is okay because there's still the processes bigger now it's okay to be a process of learning where you are just like accepting that throughout knowing versus not and it goes deeper just about knowing not knowing also about duality something. I'm still learning books or something that accepted different parts of your so for example depending on me. You know you're going to have a different perspective on me. Just like every other purse your manager will far back where professional says yard recycled over parents out and talk on Sunday Funday? And you're out of the fine found. You're going to engage engage with nick ru different. There's a duality there so the question. Is You know a lot of times people talk about. Is I think that I think I mean. What is the person in job? You know the person's at will you still his job respectable the the confines of that environment. He's attacked worst. Ecuador customers but now Sunday Eye Catching Badger. He's out your her family and friends and comfortable and turn it up during the shocking retrain. Just how you might ask throughout the duality to me is to accept that you have both ends that you have multiple spectrums of who you are and like this whole idea way as it relates. No Oh you don't you don't have just accepting of all I think for me. It's really interesting because I you know. I'm in this community wellness and self development and we talk about how we're spiritual but then you still get road rage right and you still have moments where you're angry and you can't be in the state of constant like I don't know what you'd call onus like. You're just like Zen all the time and you know I've seen those memes or someone's like yeah I'm spiritual but I'll yell at you if you cut me off and traffic and it's so funny because I've had people in the past. I had a job in corporate America and they would see me interact with my clients versus how I spend time with my friends and I did get a little bit of a hard time about that. Because they're like oh you're you're turning on well. No these are all aspects of personality. These are all aspects of WHO? I am and how I relate to others and I think one of the things that's important to me is that people recognize that we have both light and darkness right. We have both positive and negative and neutral. There's parts of that are completely neutral but still absolutely available and should be kind of Appreciated and witnessed. I did appreciate one thing that you said specifically though when you were talking about how we don't have to know it all and there's shame in knowing it all and it's so incredibly true because we look at everyone around us as if they have the answers and what you find most times is that when they really pill back and boil it down and get honest with you. We are all just making like the next best decision that we possibly can based on our life experience based on things that we read our conversations. We have. They're all just really educated guesses if you if you get right down to it and I think that there's such courage and being vulnerable enough to say I don't know like this is an area where I I need help and I. I did that recently with someone. I called an expert regarding a company that I'm building and I said I know that my background is in finance but I'm going to be honest with you. I don't know this piece near the first person that I finally said like. I don't know what I'm doing in this area. Will you help me? And he was like all in like of course. I'll help you. This is what I'm great at. This is what I know how to do and I think people don't realize don't take an account. There are a lot of people in the world who want to help you if you can be vulnerable enough open enough to like stand in front of them and show them your humanity. The key I mean that's one of my colleagues at always think about always wanted. Just stay tuned with no with the Incheon social media using social media. What can happen is you. Can't you could become an expert. Say you're nobody is rose baseball so that's a lot of people looking for you. Know Your Yogurt or those or be teacher. Why was always willing to work? Even if you are are always say it helps you said you want to that expert just so folks but what would happen. You did what would happen ours. I'm good you'd be you'd be stuck as but you were willing to ask for help. And there's some ashes also you know. Sometimes you can. Sometimes you just have to try. You know personally de often my own room every day whether it's a direct message phone call text in someone asks me. Hey I'm going to be an awful I don't have any of you got a lot of different things. But he's really GonNa be what works for me. You know Here I'm GonNa read you a quote that I saw this morning actually on that topic because I say I say okay so just go actually comes from rl Stein who was one of my favorite authors. He won't the goosebumps series. Of course. Yeah. I literally were read these books every single night when I was a kid. Obsessed about these books. The new ones will come out. I will buy them or I wouldn't buy them for me and I will read them in one day she would always say like. Why did you read the book? So bad and I honestly think like my path to become an inaugural really started would just falling in love with reading. And he's fallen in love with how you know people like our Elstein Who Offer his hockey movie director? But I really love watching this show called Opening their show deliver the newness show Came out in the sixties. It was black and white. I only think of the birds when I think of like other scary movies. Oh it's it's going to kill me if I don't remember the name they so I mean look at because I feel like they're doing a review with With Jordan pill. Let's see so. He did cycle rear window vertical. That movie that movie the birds. Yeah I always think of that. One scene from the birds like at the very end. It's terrifying. I remember cycle with the shower scene but this is called the pop culture favorites but he was he was a gifted. He's a gifted director. Yeah get the director great writer. He Had the Vision. Same with like rl. Stein like people could just invoked so much emotion on his Co. so someone asked him What advice do you have for people? Who WANT TO BE WRITERS. I say they don't really need advice. They know they want to be writers and they know they're going to do it. Those people who who had no who really really know there they cut out for this they just know it and that's how I feel. I feel like if you're if you just know you'll cut out for something some Tom. You don't vice sometimes. You don't even need to know how to do it. Sometimes you just need truck and then you're GONNA lose and you're gonNA fail and then you just leave said this is so funny and you keep trying eventually something quick. You're not going to start your natural learning process. I think that's so valuable because I know for me so I've been writing since publicly since two thousand nine and my book came out in two thousand eighteen and thank you. It's called Lor. Harnessing your pass to create your future. It's it's it was a book years and years in the making but it was it was grinding and learning and I am so I think it's so valuable to talk about. Why it's important to be that seeker and that constant student because for me it was. I was always reading about what I needed to do. I was going to conferences and I'm an. I'm a voracious reader. I have a huge library. It's very hard for me to get rid of books when I buy them. I'm like I have like an emotional attachment to books and I think it's valuable advice though because I have a lot of people also reach out to me and ask me about writing getting published and now that I have an app out there like well. How do you build an APP? And I'm like that's such a huge questions unpacked like. There's so much there like I'd have to create an entire masterclass to explain how to create an APP and I think that separates not that. There's anything wrong with asking questions and going to people who know more than you and asking them for advice but you also have to have and this is what I would say. Is that when someone asks me? How do you how do I become an author published? How do I create an APP? One of the things I say to them is like it's like seventy five to eighty percent of it. Is You like you can hire really great developers or you can have an amazing editor but you have to want it bad enough. No one's going to take your hand and be like okay. Come on you've had this great idea. Let me do this for you. Like with with my most recent company like I'm having to learn how to handle digital marketing. I don't know how to do any of it but I sure have ordered a bunch of books and taking a bunch of online courses that I can figure out how to handle funnels and trekking in analytics. Because that's what you do when you want something you continue to seek into. Educate yourself so that you can build that that thing that you most desire when you when you got your first book published did you like. What was your celebration did you. Were you like Oh my God have done it like what is your thought process. No it wasn't there wasn't any Russian To be honest So I kind of have to go back and just I wanted to his office always right book but I would happen first career track college football real and then when I was in college studying communications and You know I knew I wanted to be a speaker and writer. So I- classes that out with that Classes that taught me the history of riding a structure. Synthesis instruction words. And you know I felt a poetry class. My Gym Teacher. She hated you know. I remember. I'll never forget visions. I class with his assignment and are right here and I use myself into to kind of shape points. Were what I'm talking about. And then also other stories. I observed story so Intel to kind of move book. How many great writers Skinny eastbound all of you sort of you guys big news? We heard you loud and clear and I can't wait to show you what we've been working on behind the scenes today. Gold is brought to you by live media and the list pocket coach available on the Apple App store. Now not only as live like a life coach in your pocket so we have just dropped our biggest upgrade which includes live circles. These are accountability groups. You create with your friends and colleagues to support one another. 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Six weeks over six weeks what we'd veer classic be on with the cold too and I was one of the boroughs like when I was Gonna say I was okay. Well you know I thought I'd come but uh really class. That was the class and I was like okay. I got that she. She told me that works in connection she says about workable back to people and it's that arthritis and ample ball knowledge at college. Her like our stories in my notebook arrest songs. I really like a hundred bucks. You know not as really dedicate myself so twitter having news. I I like big more job. Creation working at the telecommunications company doing sales started there So you know I really went all the way in one foot door with really are committed to doing so. I just went all the way so I'm just hurt herself. Systems of Martin. How how were networking? Eating people comes sales seminars to try to learn the process. We a subterfuge iron is for. Athletes repetitive nature. We want so. I really like dedicated myself. Learn from outright backwards so for about a year I write anything and that was probably the hardest year because I was so disconnected. Long civil join. Yeah so the second year ration- I was asking Sunday on the ice the Sunday Monday. Just went home writing writing six hours. This is physical ride with opinion Labor. Six hours of this. You know even John for me I realise to really commit but then when the time I really time because I was working full time So what I what I did was I figured out. Just so I'm gonNA tell you to. Basically work was anywhere from about seventy eight There was a ownership amidships and chip. Japan's twelve eight five. Tennessee's obtained a ship so schedule manager would likely so she gave Mondays and Tuesdays so she didn't Sunday Dad. That helped me a lot because she gave Sundays Sundays. Sundays watch their moves. Thank family to do all that social stuff. I use Monday. I love my house all day. I E 'cause they I mean we row S. practice. I got to the point where Monday I was able to write. Twenty four hours a day for forty eight thousand words. That's a short story so every single week I was great. She looks through every single week and I was doing so I got looking one day. This now computer source pew so Dan in that that way I I. I just published my reverts. Which should I just put it on? Just because I wanted to do something with their titles in there to what end it was it was not good. It was not his lawyer who I was looking back years ago. But I'm glad I did. Because they gave me started someone balk a book and then like other people and I have a marketing budget market. I just put it out and it was awful. It was absolutely awesome and but when I got my a notification on email limbaugh for book started laughing so Dan my brother who's older. I told him about it and say. Hey you know this. So he said okay. Let me send me the league. I'm GonNa read the book so he reads the book and he he's like I'll never forget. This is what change he goes. Talk to say okay. So we live by Kim over my house and he goes into mccaw. Any Democrat fifteen numbers. He brings them up. No I've seen these hours my business but what's the kid those stories go open up and I'm like now all the intro. Yes sir no any shared. Open IT UP. Open up being breached songs. Though some stories is the most serious ever seen he says. If you don't show the world your EGOS WHY is it? So girl so are originally used to get watches. Gold every meeting every single cross. What would happen? Is that same as you put into your writing? I don't know and I've heard that's amazing. I had like. It's so funny because I had a similar situation. I've been writing since I was thirteen years old. I had a friend that died of leukemia when I was thirteen and I didn't know how to process his death. And so my dad had to be my first journal because I think my dad was overwhelmed with me. He didn't know how to deal with me. And so he hit me first journal and I started writing and I never stopped and I was in my junior year in high school. One of the teachers would have this thing where she put an assignment on the board. You'd walk in and for the first ten minutes of class. He would take the words on the board and you'd make it whatever she says today. You're making your writing upon. You're doing a sonnet. You're doing a short story and here are the words you have to use. And I one and she started crying when she read it and then she called me in an office after class. And she's like I need to talk to you so I was like okay so I wonder office is a little bit nervous in trouble. And she's like you have notebooks at home don't you and I was like Yeah Ashley you right. But it's me was very personal very private and she's like I want you to bring in every single one of your notebooks and I was like it's private it's like it's you know whatever it was it's because it was so full right it was stuff. I was seventeen years old and I'm writing about feelings and Levin. I don't know anything about any of that stuff and so I brought it into her and she literally I still have one of them and she put post through all of it. Like keep writing keep crafting. Your words are so powerful you move. You can move people into all the entire notebook But I still kept everything very private because my family was very much of the mindset like you need to make money to make money needs to be in like banking so I ended up in banking and then I was married and my ex husband opened up a drawer. One day and found stacks of notebooks and journals. And he's like what is all of this and like it's nothing it's private same conversation years later. And he went through them and he's like Ginette. You're gifted like you're talented. People need to to you. These needs to be out there so that started me blogging in two thousand nine and I was just like on this like crazy trajectory but I think most writers and authors you have to have a love affair with words. It's less about Like you you don't do it because you're like I'm GonNa like maybe WanNa be a bestselling author and maybe you think that you can. And maybe you want your books to be published and turned into movies but it's almost like you can't not right if that makes sense like. I don't think so those goals I don't think those goals are motivational factors at the beginning. Yeah I mean like maybe maybe someone but Like you say I really think it's more of a I could just internal feel like an internal calling Just a away to express yourself and you know like you mentioned your your friend passing away For me by the Genesis was when I was a kid. My parents were not very open minded first of all. They were very very close minded. They're religious plan. They also were very like militant in their parents house It wasn't really acceptable. You know a lot of people nowadays talking about how they want to be horrible. Well I mean it's like parenting styles. I'm really conducive to that. They're not they're not very open today. At least my worms so for me. It was like the notebook ought to be vulnerable in there and I could share whatever If they did something that I was this week with or you know trying to talk to a girl at school I made the right word. I would just write down notebook in practice with the notebook in Bengal. Talk to the girl. Rehearse what I was GONNA say. You know the whole stuff about you know hitting these these lists and being a bestseller. I really think that's more of A. I think those type of goals can happen after you get published get into industry like as a genesis. Now I don't. I don't think anyone has that type of goal. You're not getting the beginning and even so if you do I mean you know no shame for me but I think that goes fleeting. I don't think those like success goals at the beginning GonNa help you really think it's more about process of learning your own process learning like you say like. He started writing about love and stuff. You don't know anything about You know just learning what you right. You might like telling stories. You might do self help. You Might Romance. There's so many different ways you know. Sports writers they don't you know there's so many different ways you can express yourself and the other thing like I'm just not capable writer because I think it helps people understand themselves you are. You don't even have to get published. You don't even have you know you don't have to ever share. You can just write your boss any person hours any person. Who's listening to You know you're dealing with some type of unruly emotions uncertainty confusion man get notebook out is right rising. Some down you might. You might bring yourself so much clarity and healing just by getting it off you chest. I like part of my book was about the idea that you have to have a writing practice in order to heal from within. Because like I don't know if you're familiar with Julia Cameron's the artist's way but it changed my life with the idea of just that sub-conscious Free hand writing across the page would ever you're dealing with? And and she calls him like becoming known to yourself. Exactly what you were saying like. That's you learn what you're processing what you're dealing with. What's going on with the new and almost every time I have someone come to me with a problem. I'm like have you started writing like you can talk about it as much as you want. But until you get out of your hands so Cathartic to like have it like leave your hand and find its way across the page You're not really going to be able to process it and I truly I mean that's the first thing that I go back to whenever my mind feels like I'm feeling kind of fucked foggy or like I can't seem to make decisions. The first thing I go back to my writing practice. It's immediate. What would he do right every day for yourself like do you journal or do you primarily right content for for your followers Okay so it's Kinda tough to answer I don't I wouldn't say that I write for my followers at all. I think I think that's more of a result of writing for myself to be honest with you. Yeah I love that and I think especially in this like curated content world where everyone's like push content content content. It's funny because like when you write for yourself and you have a tendency to be more of A. I don't know the word soulful keeps coming back to mind because you can tell that there's a lot of heart in your words And so I appreciate the fact that there's that that distinction between the two that like I don't write for my following but it's a byproduct of of you as a writer. You can tell you you know there wasn't. I was paying attention to trying to answer the quote Unquote Algorithm and what content will spread or what will go viral on my skin. About six months of my life trying to figure out how to write by reports and This was I I had two or three books out at the time and the idea behind that was if I give Barbara quotes bookshelves right after actually quit my job. So I was in a Desperation place where I like. I needed my books to do well literally I can eat food. You know 'cause I didn't have anything else going on committed to writing In and looking back respectively. I'm grateful that I learned. But that time period was so hard creatively because it didn't feel organic felt like I was I felt like kind of what we're early we talk. We used to work fake like I felt like I was fake in Authentic tomato process. You know my processes always always been introspective. He's always been New talking ideas that are prevalent to meet. That need to express get to understand. It was never about. I need to write this song for other people. And what happens is once you start developing Attention once you start about intolerance in you start to think it's like a natural thing to do. Is you start to think about okay. Well what do they you know because a lot of advice to buy or take your customers. What were they need within? Okay started the other side will not creating what was genuine to me. Ask people 'cause I following January but Adam and it's just like what were well for me. The truth in the beginning is same true to your own created and in genuine with yourself you know because at the end of the day someone who likes to work they always Abitur they can follow you. They can both the way they say. Hey I don't like this person I know this and you have to be okay with yourself and you still have to have closure with yourself with and becomes with what you for now now. I think that's super value as I think I'm facing this now too right. It's like is it. Is it a passion or is it a business and Kennedy? Both you know there's almost I I totally get that. I've got a foot in each world where you're like okay. Well I WANNA create this really great platform for voices to be heard but at the same time you've got to think of and I have to tell you. Marketing is the worst. I hate marketing. It's not fun What I and where I get lost and where I feel like I am at my absolute best when I'm in content curation or I'm interviewing people because to me that knots an ideas and that's its creation and that's why aren't that. I love the most and it's just it's there is I'd duality between like how do you create content That that you can stand behind right. That's that's yours and I've even done that myself with like so with instagram. I had a social media company helping me for a while and they were pulling some of my old stuff right stuff here and there and what? I realized I was like No. These are my words like I need to write. I'M A I'M A. I'm a fast writer so like I can write social media posts for three weeks in like probably an hour and I know this has to come for me and now we've gotten to the point where I'm writing based on what I'm dealing with in the moment when I'm thinking about and the conversations I'm having and the guests that I'm having on the show so that it's it's truly There's that that genuine authentic outreach. Where you're you're you're paying attention to the words from a human not from little machine behind the scenes I wanted to ask you know who that's all it is gone. I wanted to ask you based on you. Know Your Your Life Experience and everything that you've learned if you were to give advice to your younger self. How old would you be? And what advice would you have processor? Okay all our times. You know do interviews and podcasts oranges. They just know their answers already. But I I need to think about that for say okay. We thought Oh so My parents were both or both alcoholics. My mother is still alive. My father passed away and It was it was my father's. Dui that really change The synergy of my My relationship with my our family structure. We were family five and when? I look back on my childhood I can point that. Dui a genesis trauma that my sister and my brother and myself went through I could get myself invites. You know Kinda will be truthful I think the very first thing I would want to do is give myself advice for yesterday. Cheapen the question but yes in that is to you know our myself in a situation like my mother and father. Paolo where there was stress in my certainty. And things just one thing after another just kind of built up I would just want to just remind myself to just like try to simplify my life into. Just take one day at a time and Try Not to stress too much about you. Know just seems that. Don't really matter because you can. You can say a family structure. No you can say a marriage if you like getting rid of a lot of the things that holds back Like a lot of negative emotions and the resentment though. I need to be right. The need to argue to prove people wrong. Just Jill like much go there and just trying to live compassionate and just shug outraged. I think I would. I would give myself advice yesterday. 'cause I am father? My son is GONNA be March for his own. Yeah Dedi Spears. Just like I guess they'll come in with You know I just I just want to try to you know. Be there for me Give Him some love and passing a lot in the live healthy. Y You know. I don't want him to be thirty years from now Write books about you know trauma here. Because his dad was this and that was that I just wanted to be healthy. He's going to have problems and struggles. And Yeah get all that. But I don't want structure to be problems. So that's like one of my biggest goal right now and If I can get another piece of it will be from college. Actually because of that I started hours. Twenty one You know I was a ball player in college and you know college when I was eighteen. I don't know June tomorrow area. There are honestly what just tell myself not to drink at all I really think some about worse. Decisions have been made under the influence alcohol and when I like. Look Beckham my life. I don't I don't really like to be honest. I really don't like that. I think that I've heard people that I cared about because decisions may force apart And I just I just don't like I don't like it I don't I don't ever get a problem with the alcoholism as far as BSS or just can't control it but you're young college you do you do dumb stuff and I would say like my biggest regret is like this girl. I was dating at the time because I was drinking. Maybe decision really her and I wish I could take that pain away from her. You know and I wish that I wish that I never would have. Did you know her? You know it's and that'll be my biggest regret you know so I would you say not drinking at all if I could get myself in Navarre? Yeah I come from a mother's alcoholics. I completely understand where you're coming from. And it's like that decision to end a cycle and not have it influence your ends with you and I have the same type of relationship with alcohol where it's it's like. I. I don't why nothing good comes from it. You get headaches. It's it's it's not positive and it's fun socially but I think when you come from a background where you've seen devastation. You're a lot more sensitive to it and aware of of its influence. So I totally get that. We'll go point just social thing when you really think about it. Just don't get her point of like when I write my books. I don't under any influence but I don't have medical marijuana part living yourself. I definitely enjoy marijuana. Well right I won't do that when I when I'm writing poetry like I write would've cleared sober-minded and industry a lot of allow it right I don't get it I just don't get it. Just don't get it. Why coaches so obsessed with trying to figure out. I don't know let's part of me wants to never again in the tar also from just like okay. Well you know how much you know sipping focus is now I was probably one of my treadmill disturbances figuring out I guess do. Essentially you know absolutely. Get that if you were. I'm transitioning from this life and you wanted to leave behind in gold nuggets of wisdom or inspiration. What would they be wrong as deep questions really really? He'll you have to. I have to heal the especially vengeance and things you have to. He'll he'll not something. There is is a competent process And then you try to chase some type purpose In a lot of times people associate that job does it could be a day of the week today and I'm GonNa try to just be capacity today. Well I'M GONNA try to be funny making allowed. They just just have some guy push. Maybe maybe you're serving. You know some spiritual figures serving. You sound serving pancakes. I you just have some type of purpose bigger than you. Something that you're giving by some of the trade and then last hour to say on this chart out front Is so many things to be serious about upset about you know. I'm really cursive so I'm just trying to have mine. Aweso lot on people around whichever would all toward people don't think people make fun of but I mean everybody I make myself. I don't I don't might be so serious You know I'm going to have the conversation anymore. But at the end of the day we talk about you know just be be open with each other. You know that's just what I want to say. Eight and purrs and he'll say I'm so appreciative of you. Taking time to talk to me today and sharing your gold if whoever's listening if you haven't followed Sylvester you need to pick up his books. I'm appreciative view. And your time and how open you are so thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you so much for listening today. So vested breathes and exudes sole and authentic. If you're not following him you should be. It was a pleasure taking up space with him. You can find him on. Instagram. At Silvester mcnutt or online at Sylvester mcnutt dot com as always. Subscribe to this podcast lever of you and don't forget to share with your friends. You can find me on Instagram at either. Ms Dodge Not Schneider or the lives movement at Loves Viral. Dot Media or live at love is viral dot com. Get deepen the work with me to uncover your messing before you pass it on to your children or the people you influence order my book. Laura Harnessing your pass to create your future available on Amazon or Barnes and Noble Dot Com until next time in the words of my grandma love each other every day.

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Seahawks GM John Schneider & Patriots Insider Tom Curran

The MMQB Podcast with Peter King

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Seahawks GM John Schneider & Patriots Insider Tom Curran

"Introducing, peacock? The new free streaming service NBC Universal Timeless Hits Free, iconic flicks, free hilarious bits three. Yup. Cell Free, and that's why you can't not watch peacock stream now at peacock. tv.com parks and REC streaming now. Welcome to the Peter King podcast. That'd be a fun. What's going to be an informative one this week. my guest this week. As NFL teams, report to training camp. Of Seattle seahawks general manager John, Schneider will talk about the the massive trade to number one picks essentially for George. Three to one. Welcome to the Peter, King. PODCAST? You know. I know it's the end of July, but this is an action packed massive stuff happening I. Mean, it's July twenty eighth is I record this Tuesday night? and. It just never ends. It just doesn't end. But this week on a PODCAST WE'RE GONNA get to too many things going on around the national football league. I will be with John, Schneider general manager of the Seattle Seahawks. He made that blockbuster trade dealing two first round picks to the New York jets for Jamal Adams in return win win I think a little bit more of a win for the Seattle Seahawks And, then we will talk about the strange strange days of the New England Patriots Tom Current of. NBC. Sports Boston. Is You know or as you heard? The New England patriots have had six players league-high six players opt out for covert related reasons of their contracts through two thousand twenty. Already without Tom Brady, and now no Dante hightower, not Patrick Chung. No Marcus Cannon. So we will weigh in and it might not be over in Foxborough. By the way, we'll have Tom Kerr and tell us the whole story about what exactly is going on. In New England, but I'm going to, start, off. By saying something that I had a conversation over the weekend. With. John Mara. The CO owner of the New York giants. And? John I've known. John Mara. Since I covered the giants in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, five for Newsday a paper in New York. And I knew his Dad Wellington Mara the. You know the godfather of the organization and You know really good human being, but anyway. So. John Mara reminded me that last May that I had written in. Felt. Happy about it. Hey, somebody reads me. But John Mero. Reminded me of you know Peter. You said that this is going to be an imperfect year and people need to get used to some injustice in this was after John. Mara basically told the owners in a conference call last Friday. Listen guys. We have to get used to football being very imperfect this year. and. I'm just reminded of that today you know in. A lot today, it's Tuesday but. In. My a few calls around the league. I was talking to one A. Public Relations Director of a team and and he said man, you got a lot to write about I said every every week even in March or even in April and May. After the drafted early June. I said I'm writing ten or twelve thousand words a week and they're six or eight thousand more than I could be writing about. And it's just mindful of the fact that what's going to happen this year. No one knows you see what happens with the Florida Marlins and either the marlins have whatever seventeen players and staff having tested positive, and then there's no more positive tests like in baseball hockey, it's almost pristine beyond that. So leads you to believe two things. If, you don't keep your house in order. You really could mess this thing up this return to football is attempt to return to football by the NFL. So. You you could really mess this up however. You also things could go. Okay. Even when you're not in a bubble, you know the NBA is done very well, obviously being in trouble down in Orlando. There looks like they're gonNA get their season off and they'll be able to play. But with the NFL. I think I'm I'm reminded of a couple of things written about this a couple of times now, I, had a long talk with Whitworth. Tackle of the of the, Rams. Who? In June nine family members including him. God Cova in it. All came from a family member, simply going out to lunch at an outdoor restaurant in California. And this person transmitting the disease to everybody in his family including his mother and father in law. So. I think that basically tells you that this year is going to be a year of living on the edge in the national football league and I'm just GonNa give you. Two different little pieces of advice about this year. Here's number one. Don't sweat the small stuff. was on a talk show with Chris Russo. Mad Dog. Some of you may know him rows on talk show with him recently, and he is screaming about how unfair would be if the Philadelphia Eagles have twenty thousand fans in the stands and the New York giants have not. And I said Chris. I I guess that matters. But you know Chris Point was if all teams can't have fans, not teams can have fans I said well. The League's already going to be losing probably about four billion dollars. So to take more money out of the owners pockets, I'm not sure they're going to be big fans of that. But but be that as as it may in my opinion, that is the small stuff. One team can have some fans at another team camp who cares. And also tell you. Don't sweat the big stuff either. And by big stuff, I? Mean, if it happens at some point, this year that one team gets a big outbreak cove it. And they it's determined that they can't play for maybe four or five weeks, and again, I doubt this will happen. But who knows? Now. That's the big stuff, but uh, if Roger. Goodell. Rules that okay team x is only gonNA play twelve games this year and all the teams they were going to play in that time. Those teams are only going to play fifty. And I'm not saying that will happen. But. All I'm saying is that's a big deal, but in the real grand scheme of things. If the NFL play has teams, not all play sixteen games and a for the first time. Since nineteen thirty five, every team doesn't play the same number games. kind of a big deal. Don't sweat it. It isn't a big enough deal to go screaming about. This is GonNa be an unusual year, get used to a lot of unusual things and don't sweat either small or the big stuff. Now on my guest John Schneider and talk to him from his deck. In Seattle where he was on, Tuesday afternoon, we talked about a lot of things but most specifically. The trade of Jamal Adams from the New York jets to the SEAHAWKS. Happy to be joined this week podcast, very topical Guest Seahawks, General Manager John Schneider a joining me from the Beautiful Pacific. Northwest. And John No matter how screwed up this country gets? It's still beautiful in in in the state of Washington. So welcome to the PODCAST. Yeah, thanks for having me Peter, Pretty Exciting Day. The players are showing up today to. Do, other Cova testing. Here we go. Let's get going. So, John Lsu, an open ended question I. How do you feel about this? Do you think this really can work? You're seeing what's happening in baseball now in their hitting quite a few early speed bumps. How do you? How do you look at the possibility to the NFL can play a full season? I just think we're league that's always had a ton of adversity and we have great leadership all the way round work through it. You know both sides I think. Basically, look like there is to see as who just negotiated right over the last several months and you know both sides. I know for a fact, you know the League, the Union they worked tails off to get us at a spot where we can get ready to go and all the medical people whenever they possibly can to to help us all out and help us to lead over individual organizations. So yeah, I have a ton of hope I'm sure we're GONNA. Hit a a ton of issues as we go with like I said I think we're league. It's very strong with leadership and overcoming adversity. What is it like around your building? Do you feel when you walk into your building now in Renton? Washington. D. Feel saved the feel like it's There's a lot of anti cove insurance in there. Yeah. Absolutely Sam Ramsden and Matt Thomas and and our whole staff Dr Dresner League office Dr Sills, and and everybody's been working on this for. You gotta remember. Now these people have been working on this stuff. When we we're getting ready to have the draft at our house in the is it feels it's been a long time. These people were were doing a great job getting us all set. So yeah, you know there's there's there's excitement for people to be back to work. But yet you know we have to create that distance and and the spacing and be respectful everybody. So we can. We can do the best possible job we can as we proceed here. As we record this on Tuesday afternoon. You have had one opt out guard chance warm AC. You haven't had any. Like patriots have had a Bevy of players, but do you expect there to be many more opt-outs either in Seattle around the League? I'm not sure I. Think when you look at, you know every every individual, every family is going to be different. Right? So you know every everybody's at a different point in their career there certain players are going to feel a specific way about their organization. They're organizations prepared for this. So I can only speak for the seahawks and knowing that you know chance at a situation. That was very personal that we totally respect and and like I can't speak on behalf of the Patriots or anybody else. But I just know the Seattle Seahawks in our staff. Garner phenomenal job getting ready to go and we'll be ready if other people decide to opt out and we won't hold any up any animosity towards anybody that wants to hold out will respect their opinions and we'll be ready in terms of having an emergency list Ready to keep competing every week. You think players are worried about a stigma associated with opting out either you know that they're leaving their team They're they're basically doing something, anti? Team. Or that feel like these guys are making decisions whether to play or not play purely on a personal level having nothing to do with the team. That's a great question at I. Think you know during the summer throughout these negotiations and everything I don't think that. You know the football fans across the country probably don't understand how many. Calls, you know the Union's been on what their players in the League, the union going back and forth. So I. There's been enough discussion where you know players are going to respect each other's feelings about opting out or or going for it and plan, and you're GONNA try to try to respect each other with all the rules that we have set in place. Now, with with you know all the all the colour protocols because I just think it's A. Obviously we need to do the best job. We possibly can and and learn for Major, League Baseball and the NHL and. And you know the NBA? You know we're I've been in contact with him. NBA, teams, NHL teams. We've other people that have you know baseball contact. So we're doing whatever we can to take correct cautions and I don't think players are gonNA. have any animosity towards each other. Let's talk a little bit about football I. Think you're rub. You. CERTA. Shock. The world, even though clearly you've been, you've been looking at Jamal Adams in considering him for awhile. It's funny. It RETU- teams last year around the trading deadline. Who that one of which I thought was very close. You know at three o'clock eastern time on the afternoon of the trade deadline. You know the general manager of this team was waiting by his phone because he thought Joe Douglas might call them and say, Hey, we got a deal. So clearly this has been this hasn't been just happening. People have been going after. Jamal. Adams for awhile. When would you say you I? Either, express interest in. I started feeling out Joe Douglas, the GM of the jets about whether it was even possible that he'd moved. Jamal. Joan I have a really good real good relationship. Go back. Several years scouting being on the road. He was He was actually at, we were actually a boise state the same day Kam Chancellor. Returned to camp after his holdout. So's exciting time and we had talked a lot about a number of different things and and so at that, you know on that day because such that that was such a big day for the seahawks and. And so going through he was going through. We talked obviously before the draft. trade with them. You know on on draft weekend and had a couple of different things lined up with them, and then you know got into the situation with Jamal and. Our staff Willy in Nolan and Trent Scott our guys do a really good job of of movie. Preach about just trying to stay in. every deal and trying to be connected and see what the landscape looks like throughout the national. Football. League, and so you know, I. Think. It was just a matter of of staying in touch those guys and and keeping their relationships going being open candid with conversations and. probably about I'd say probably about. Maybe. Two months ago, maybe a month and a half ago when you know Joe and I started really. getting serious about it. At what point did you mentally determine that you'd be willing to give a second first round pick for him? Well I think it's always going through your mind. You know because the way the way we view it as just been in I. Hope this cross the right way but. We've been you know been picking in the late twenties credit to our. Operation. Staff and coach Caroline, and all has guys in the way they develop. And obviously, our quarterback bobby and K J, all of veterans that have done such a good job over you know over the years year. But you know when you're picking in a in a in a late twenties, it's it's. It's It's it's a different challenge and. We've we viewed it as an opportunity to say, we're picking twenty seven to move up to number twenty six or what does that look like us? You know on draft weekend and? We felt like it. It. It was. You know it was appropriate for us at that would be the right. That'd be the right compensation now, that can be debated. Right? I mean, it's fun. It's entertainment for everybody. I, get it You know, but it's You know when you're in that arena with somebody and you're having those negotiations and you're trying to figure out what your you know what your future's going to look like and You know what you're windows of opportunity. Look like you know. We just felt like we'd go and you can't sit here and preach that you're going to be a consistent championship, caliber, football team and not being something like this in, go for it. Lands. One of the things I liked about the trade and you know look if you look at your history. In one of the things that I like about this generation of managers, I started covering the league and you're the only guy who was really like you. And like let's say Ballard Chris Ballard, and Dmitrov, and and a lot of the younger guys. was Bobby Beth? You know, and I'm not saying that other general managers were scared. That's not the right word, but it was such a conservative time in the eighties and nineties trades like this, and now it isn't anymore and my belief is that it makes the game more fun and quite honestly it's more realistic. Here's the way. I. Look at this trade and I just WANNA. Hear your your thought. First of all, your average draft position in the last five years before trade is twenty, three point four. So basically, you know the bottom third of the first round and in the last five or six years if you look at even after you wheel in deal. And make trades. If you look at who you've come up with, you've drafted five players in the top forty five since two, thousand, fourteen, I wrote this the other day Paul Richardson Germain feddie Maliki McDowell. Reshad. L. J. Collier. Not including this year and and look whatever you think of any of those players and we don't really know about L. J.. Collier yet. Okay. Well, whatever you think of any of those players, none of them really has the potential impact on your team for the next three or four years of Jamal Adams, and so I just look at it and I say. You know you'll figure out if you really need a draft choice in the next year or two. I just think you'll figure out a way to get it. Give me your thought on what I think about you. Know I. think that's fair. I think that you're you also have experienced a gap in I. DON'T WANNA say generations but. When you're when you're dealing with other general managers, you have guys that are. Similar age in in in closer and experience. There was a pretty big gap there for a while where. You know there were guys that were you know fifteen? Twenty. Twenty five years older than me that you didn't have that same type of relationship with. So I think this group is is is much more, is is easier to deal with I. Don't think there's a lot of people that are that are out there trying to just completely try to take advantage of people and and I'm not saying that happened in the past. But I mean I'm sure that there there were certain people thought that they could make a do a better job than others. That's that's fair. That's you know that will be their prerogative, their confidence in their staff in how they approached acquisition. You know with us when when you when you look at our guys. Will move back and took me McDowell. Thought that you know we thought that was a great great move in and you know. I talk about this in you, and I have talked about this after every draft. You know it's. It's almost like you're done. You get done talking to a group of surgeons that come out of operation where you never know we really comes out of there going. Yeah. That was just okay like that commercial. Somebody just got reinstated right that way you know. So you always feel good about it. We lost the League in a tragic tragic. You know four wheeler incident and. was never able to play football. Again, Rashad. Rishaad. Penny. Had, probably the best medical grade we ever had on anybody and he comes in and gets hurt right away. So and then L. J. Collier last year. You know nobody's even seen him yet. We thought we were GONNA, lose them for the season. He had a in a very rough like kind of NBA Heiankaku sprain, and so they're these there. These these guys you know there's there's still, yes, I understand you know the situation in that. You know that's A. That's a bummer You know for everybody himself included but. The other two guys, people haven't really truly seen yet. Right we're excited about those guys in. You know we're excited about a ton young guys in the team and it's pretty cool to see like Tyler Lockett finally getting up there. In the top hundred players at the players voted on its excited a secret carson get into that group, and so I think there's a number of of of a young talented guys were excited about excited about this last class to and. When you. When you when you sit back and you're in, you're you're constantly preaching year staff about you know, what can we do every day to get better and you're adding somebody Jamal's intensity dog and instincts, and you know he's he's he's just incredible. Incredible football player. So we just felt like it was it was an opportune time. We Love Bradley McDougal Great Guide He's a pro day in day out. The jets are gonNA love him But you know we we just couldn't pass on this and and You know that we pride ourselves on not just the first round, but you know three through. Seven, and then how important is rookie free agency? We started a super bowl to free agent wide receivers. You know. So we take a lot of pride in in the whole process, not just the first round, the first round of just being the entertainment portion of of what the draft looks like. Introducing Peacock, the new free streaming services from NBC. Universal. Free timeless hits. The award winning firm. View. New York. Below deck, free parks and REC TREAT YUP says it's the best streaming, the best of TV and best of all, it's free. And, that's why you can't not watch peacock stream. Now at peacock dot com, these titles e et do the right thing. Streaming content availability may vary over time. Tell me. What exactly is your philosophy if I can if I can call it that? that. Right away as you know, a lot of people say quoted anonymously one general manager in the League said. I'd never trade to once for safety. But what tell me about your philosophy without without being too praiseworthy like how do you get to be unafraid to make to really step bow intimate a major commitment like trading who once for a guy who's not left tackle? WHO's not a quarterback per se? Trying to look at the landscape in in. See what? Are, you going able to Duane Brown our team right now, you you have a future, let avenue for us to have a future left tackle. What does that look like You know you know pass rusher. You know we we traded for JV last year to great year for with us, and then it really nice job You know. So you're trying to figure out how you can acquire those guys all the way through. I would say without Getting too much into detail Peter that. We needed to get faster on our on our team, the Especially on defense NFL, like we've done that and you look at the national. Football League right now. Especially, our division with all the crossers in the town of tight ends that we have. It's important to with you know now you know with Ugo Blair, and and digs, and now Jamal You know it's. It's a, it's a, it's a really good group in Plano. Hill who Two years ago was playing from Michigan, who's playing at a very, very high level, three games in a row, and then had a very serious hip injury and and you know he's he's he's at ruins offseason. So we're looking forward to seen him is well, but there's have to have so much speed in the back end especially when playing against Kyle Murray George Kill and all you know robber woods and all always guys that seem like there's run all over the place, you got to have as much speed in a few and so adding a guy like Jamal who has ever silly to play down the boss and playing the whole and play man coverages Abreu important to us. But. He general just about trades in general. Where did your ethos and your relative fearlessness about them come from? I. Guess. I. Have to say sages. Our philosophy of competing every day and not being able to just sit back and think you. have figured out and be comfortable, and you have all the answers and we're trying to push the envelope every day, I? Mean we're not? We're not done. We're GONNA TRY TO. Try to build this team. I mean, you've seen it. All the way through you know the the even playoff, what we're doing with practice law players, moving them up and have an implant special teams for us and in Shuffling people around the great thing about. Coach Caroline, his his staff. As as I stated earlier, they're not afraid to pull people out there young people and. And talented guys take a shot and see we got I. Mean we started out a long time. Going back, we started out a long time ago where you know Byron Maxwell and Richard were competing out there a corner, and then you know read Marcus to as well and he was like man, we're GonNa to put Richard Sherman out there and as talented as Marcus was and and as high as he got picked in this draft and at the draft when he came out also, we're playing with Richard and Marcus moved inside. You know. So taking those chances in knowing that you have a staff that's willing to develop and play young people who is really really important right now in this league. I want to. Touch on to other topics quickly. One is. This might seem boring people but I think. If you guys. Through this season, the practice squad is going to be hugely important. And I WANNA, go back in time because I was talking to Pete Carroll over the weekend about the nineteen eighty-seven. NFL season, which for those who don't remember. Basically, teams played two games. Players went on strike and. Very, very quickly within days, teams had to sign teams of replacement players because the NFL was going to keep playing football. So you were I believe about sixteen or seventeen years old at the time, and I'm sure you remember replacement football. But this is the thing that really really reminds me. Of Replacement Football, not that you're going to be doing that you're. Russell. Wilson unless he gets sick. Is GonNA play quarterback free but it seems to me that you have to be more concerned probably than ever with the quality of your practice squad this year knowing that, hey, one week you might have to key players. Go down or test positive dacoven virus, and so you're going to have to reach down into your practice squad and guys are going to have to step up and play. So what do you think of the importance of the practice squad this year, and what have you done about the practice squad? Maybe that's a little bit different from a normal year. We. Always think it's very important. Every year you know we are our staffs as a great job with it. Know, we're constantly on it studying other other team's bracket squads as well. But this year in particular as you stated in Maine, we're GONNA have. You know six veterans. Type players. You can have on your bracket squat sixteen total. So I think that's going to give us a You know it's could be a huge benefit coming into the weekend. You know the early testing and see when seen what your Thursday looks like before he traveled for us before we travel on Fridays blend playing out east five times. So we you know we always leave early, and so it's can be very important for us to figure out what are you know what that active group is GonNa. Look like in. You Know Pete I, do I think peanut butter will get job of communicating that starting on. Sunday night after the game with the medical staff and then getting together again, Monday morning and working through that all the way through the week. What does our our what our world look like and Brian Schneider, as well are. Very involved with that. No relation by the way. Yeah. So, you bring up an interesting subject all. If, you leave five times for road. Games on Friday this year. You're probably assuming that you'RE GONNA YOU'RE GONNA test I guess either Thursday or Friday? Do you know anything about what the testing regimen will be during the week during the? We're still going to. We're still going to be working through some of that. But I mean I know that it's going to be extremely important for us to know you know what what our team looks like. Once especially once you know you're there you know the travel and everything's GonNa be so unique this year with the hotels and in meals. I can't tell you. How? How much work has gone into the planning this end. You know again, what? What the buses are. GonNa look like and what the hotels you're gonNA. Look like in he may give me an example. It'd be really. Really cool free to have somebody on that. They know from off from the Union and from the League, that know negotiated this deal that that you know where they can go back and forth talking about you know everything that went into this. And Again, it's going to be a process that we're working through like you like you said with. Major League Baseball and You know we didn't totally bubble it like the NBA. We'll see how that goes and I know the NHL in in Canada, and so that's that's GonNa be interesting study is while, but I, just think it's a The the behind the scenes work that's gone into this and what does the tier one personal echina-, Tier Two, tier, three, and? The administrative part of it spend Challenging for everybody would like I said. The people on our staff, David Strickland, and Sam Ramsden. Matt Thomas. has done a great job and Eric Kennedy our equipment guy and I mean ahead of equipment and You know everybody just working together. It's. It's. It's. It's going to be doing more with less this year and I think it's it's it's It's challenging and exciting I think are are people are totally up for it. So it's GonNa be fun. Not Not Fun but challenging and they're they're people are ready for it. I should say. You confident that. The League can pull this off. Yeah I am I like I. said I, think you know the the the leadership that we have, and you know if you know that that that costs constant communication that we have to have. It's like we're playing by. We are not like we are completely, you know playing with a different set of rules in terms of you know what our rosters look like when people be in the building and how many people can be around. You know how many massage therapists can have around or how many you know, what is what is, what is your cafeteria look like and? What does the meetings? Whatever meetings of like? Now, we're going to do our meetings virtually. Not sure. You know what every team's doing, but you know the fifteen players working out and you know the different sets of fifteen players working out in a in a in a room. In the weight room at a certain time. So yeah, dates, it's I'm I'm I'm confident We're GONNA pull it off. It's just it's just It's just it's GonNa be a a wild. How wild, West Challenge you know. I feel bad for college football right now as well to. We're looking at the Connecticut. Talking to a lot of those guys, I, mean, what is what is their world look like and? You, know You feel bad for the players. These young men that are GONNA be Freshman. GAZER, every seniors. You know an and especially the fans I mean look at. Look at look at the people love going to games. You know in the fall like going to a college game on Saturday, down south or anywhere, but you know you go to. You know you go to Georgia game. Then you go to a Falcon game or something you know what I mean like it's going to be it's it's GonNa be a bomber for the fans. If not able to get him. Yeah, What's been interesting. The draft is so much fun for people. and. I've probably answered twenty emails from people saying. I just don't have any idea. I, don't know how anybody can have any idea. But if. College, football is played in the spring. In some places? How in the world? Would you sink that up with the draft? You have any idea. I guess, give away your first in your third round pick and then just. Think, it's GONNA be. It's going to be interesting to see how that goes I. think that again, that's another fund challenge. We had a really huge challenge this last year without being able to bring people in for physicals and. and. Get as much work done as we could at the combine and in our staff, great job at the All Star Games and So it's GonNa be interesting to see. What that window looks like. If more teams are playing or more conferences, end up playing in this spring but we'll be on, it will be studying. It will be you know doing whatever we can to learn as much as we can about these individuals. John Schneider. Thanks so much for joining me on the podcast this week. We went about twenty five minutes. We could've gone twenty five hours. Appreciate your, theater and we wouldn't. We wouldn't have covered everything. But Anyway, thanks so much good luck and. Hope, he can pull it off. Appreciate your stay safe. I want to tell you a couple of things that I really think you should listen to. Chris Simms on his unbuttoned podcast, you can find it. Worry get your podcasts or you can also watch it on the NBC sports, Youtube Page, but he has a great podcast interview with Kyle. Shanahan. Now, for those of you don't know Kyle Shanahan and Chris Simms while ago, whatever twenty years ago now I think. Were teammates at the University of texts. Shanahan. Was a kind of fringe wide receiver and a Chris Simms was the quarterback, the Longhorns at that time, they got to be very good friends and they remain so to this moment and a very enlightening stuff. From Kyle Shanahan strongly recommend. Taking a listen to that. Also, Mike Florio and his PF t pm podcast has some really good stuff this week. He's going to have around sills, the NFL's medical director in also Matt, Ryan, the. quarterback of the Atlanta Falcons, always count on Mike to have good conversations asking the pointed questions that need to be asked particularly in a year like this. And now my conversation with Tom Current. NBC. Sports Boston. Back. The Peter King podcast. Happy to be joined by Tom. Current of NBC. Sports. Boston in what I woke up. Tuesday morning. I honestly had no intention of reaching out to my friend Tom. Curren. Join US on the podcast this week. But things sort of happened with the new, England Patriots during the day on Tuesday, and so before we get into this with Tom, let me just sort of explain in this new world of the. NFL. NFL players have until August third to opt out. Of playing this season for whatever reason, if they feel that medically they don't want to take the risk. That's fine. If for whatever reason, they feel funny about taking a risk, they have some family member of you know with a medical condition, they want risk it. So so far as we record this after four in the afternoon Eastern. On Tuesday twenty, two players have opted out. There rumors of M- anymore. But obviously, the New England patriots have had had their share. As we speak right now, three very prominent patriots. All on Defense Dante hightower probably. Well Than Devon, according probably one of their host indispensable players on defense of the Linebacker, is Gone Patrick Chung is gone and I said three defense, it's not. It's also marcus cannon. The versatile offensive lineman. He's also GonNa, hung the six who they've lost so far. So I bring in a my friend Tom Curren and Tom I want you if you can't. Can't just to try to explain to the best ear knowledge what exactly happened why or the Patriots having an epidemic? No Pun intended of opt-outs as we get close to the August third deadline a thanks for having me first of all and two weeks ago. Jonathan Jones cornerback, really valuable player for the team. He's going to be here for a longtime tweeted out. Explained to me how you can socially distance and football. You can't, and quickly that tweet was answered by tweets from. Don't they hightower who said ain't no way and then Patrick Chung who said they tripping? That to me was the first indication something might be happening. I reached out to hightower that juncture via text and he was a little cryptic in just sitting, he was just quarantined up and taking care of business. But it was a little cryptic about. More. Things may be happening. Today I guess that becomes unveiled obvious. All of us what might be happening. So hightower ops out Chung ops, each of these guys, Peter when we asked what's the common denominator there over thirty years old. They've all made thirty million to forty, five, million dollar plus in their careers, they all have three Super Bowl rings. What? Do, they have left to conquer. For Cannon, he's had non-hodgkin's Lymphoma Wallet Tcu hightower. Just, became a Father Chung has kids and I believe I'm not mistaken Mike Reese reporting that Chung about to become a father yet again. All these players. are going to logistically work through getting their no swabbed every day, not only that Peter from what I understand, the Patriots operation will be. You'll sit in your car, you'll have the opportunity. Once you're calling from your car to be summoned to have your temperature taken after your temperature taken is you'll go up some stairs. Once you get up the stairs, you'll goo the no swab. When the locker room areas cleared, you'll head into the locker room and you will change. Then you'll have the training room clear, and then you'll be taped and then go onto the field. I think for some of these guys specifically. Accepting cannon you come to a point where like I've won super bowls I've made money I'm in my thirties do I want to deal with this in two thousand and twenty to have a rebuilding season and seven and nine eight nate. Now, you know what I'll stay home. My new baby that to me is looking at I've caught tax with a couple of the Patriots today Peter, and it's they've kind of. Said Yeah. That's what we're all looking at. So. You think the number goes above six. Yeah I, do I I think other patriots players will opt out the other guys, Danny attell. Nausea? And Brandon bolden I think Brandon bolden kind of fits in that other group as well. I. Believe. He had a pre existing situation that made it. If. Not a high risk opt out then and opt out of the it's rooted in some medical concerns but. Piano, we talk about these opt-outs. It's not just the pressure on the player. It's the pressure on the player when he goes home to say to his significant others why for kids if they're old enough to have been in school. We you careful today. Because that kid goes to school in rent them or Walpole or Foxborough, and comes home and happens to. Bring. It home then can give it to Dante hightower can give it to the rest of the team. It's really a hard. Situation. So you're not just imposing upon the players individually. You're also imposing it on family units and the Patriots being an older team are going to have a hell of a lot more players. WHO HAVE A larger family unit? Then younger teams where some guys are single. You know what's interesting with the the Miami marlins situation. Now, with I believe seventeen players staff. Now total of tested positive, they won't be playing baseball for a little while. I. Find it absolutely amazing that just before we came on here, i. saw him be released. You Know A. Statistical survey of all the rest of their players they've survey, you know in recent in the recent couple of weeks. In zero positives than seems certain hockey is the same white both that the that seems. Quite illogical. Good for them. Really good for them, but look the phillies to mean the phillies yet have a positive. Test, return. So there's two things we can learn from this and. There's a little bit of an incubation period. We all understand that by now, all of us have immature epidemiologists but. It serves to remind us that. Yes, this is a virus that will strike people as they show up. They don't even have any symptoms or knowledge that they have it. So some people it's less than. Flu Reaction. But on by the same token, it can spread rapidly with a group. And maybe it doesn't spread rapidly from team to team at least in baseball. But if you're in in a place where it can be a passed in an indoor area. A. Locker Room of us up, Wayne a car coming to work and one guy or another has it. That's much more. As we can all understand by now likely to be incubating place to to pass it. You know I know that this was the case. Through the spring, but of the things that teams were thinking about some teams. and I don't know I've not followed up on this, but I wonder if you've heard anything about this. Traveling Day of game instead of traveling day or two before Ami seemed possible for some teams. The Seattle seahawks have I think five either east or mid midwestern trips this year, they're not going to be doing that obviously audrey if at all, but patriots have a bunch of short trips that I wonder. If. You've heard anything of out the Patriots or any team thinking of traveling day of Game I've just heard resistance from players and could have welcomed from your football morning in America. Calm who just dispelled the idea outright out of hand that we could that could be. Done I. Mean if you had a one o'clock game, not getting up at five in the morning and being sharp four at ten o'clock report to the to the stadium, even if it's in New York, i. mean the logistics of it are impossible. To Me Peter. These thirty two teams are about to go into mini bubbles but. As, we saw today with the Patriots and the twenty four Kobe positive tests. We had gotten among the fourteen teams and now the believe it's twenty four. Opt opt-outs. We're going to have a spate of negative. Information News. Breaking around the NFL from now until about August tenth. Where's IT GONNA opt out until August third, and we're going to get players who were reporting who are testing positive really throughout the next ten days. Until all these daily positive tests are weeded out quarantine employers return. So I think the NFL's going to have to have some resilience, put earmuffs on put your blinders on. If they really WANNA, try and soldier through, this is going to be a real bleak time. that. The NFL hasn't had to really go. She ate everything's great with the draft free agency. Good thing guys plowed through round of applause for everybody. You did all your work, but it's going to get really crappy now between this period of time, the OPCO period until August third and all these positive tests that are absolutely inevitable to come back for twenty four with fourteen teams. Certainly, we're going to get around hundred when we think Peter just. Spitballing for all thirty two when it's all done. I mean. I will be I'll be I cannot believe there would only be one hundred positive tests in the NFL. Now, who knows, but I think I think the big test is not how many positive tests there are. I mean most for most teams. Today is the day. That you know the rams, this is their first day. Lions is their first day so. For, an awful lot of teens, they're going to have eighty players testing throughout the day today, which is Tuesday. Those. Results will be back within twenty four hours, and if they're all back within twenty four hours clearly We're GONNA see very soon. How many they have, but that is and again. So that people know. You have to distinguish each team is testing. you know not only the eighty players on the team, but they're also testing the one hundred employees who are labeled tier one tier two employs. Those are the employees who have to basically touch the players every day, their the trainers, the equipment managers two or three PR people may be the the cafeteria workers, security people for on the field. So you know all of those people hundred and eighty per team half the test negative twice. By this Friday. In order to be admitted. To the team facility and to start this whole process, and then every day for two weeks, there is going to be a test for and lawyers. Yeah, it's. We'll need three a negative tests, the phones. Is. Everybody else needs to players need three I'm sure I guy. Florio. Got It. Right. He posted that yesterday. Yeah. I. Thought, it was just Tuesday and Friday. But so another hoop there for the players to to to be here. But honestly I, I don't I don't expect that what my point at the start of this Tom was to say that once we get two teams testing daily for two weeks, which starts I, guess on Friday. Or Saturday. But once that starts I don't expect a lot of positive test to happen because these most of these players at that point are going to be in either team hotels, it won't be in dorms, but they're going to start their training camp regiment so. One of the things that I couldn't get answered in you. You might notice about the Patriots are all patriots players during training camp. Do they all stay in a hotel or do they let the veterans go home? Peter. I don't know that from what I'm gathering. They are going home i. don't know categorically that that's that's the case. I'm sure the rookies and undrafted if there are any undrafted left or be housed in a in a hotel whether it be one of the residents in Foxborough or or around there. But you know it is fascinating to think about that number of tests because, yes, the opt-out wants the opt-out comes and goes August third. They'll probably be still a few guys. They screw this. I'm out of here, August, six handful talks but. You'll have some lag time with these tests. You'll also have players who test positive. And then get to negative tests. You'll also have asymptomatic players Peter Everything about. Kobe symptoms can almost feel assassinated. Replicated by physical fatigue. Hot As hell. My Body? Aches? All of these things obviously with the exception of a dry cough is going to occur players, tax their bodies, and we've talked as well about the pre existing conditions. The conditions for the sickle cell. The sickle cell trait, sickle cell itself. It strikes African Americans. It's not even close. It's basically doesn't impact. Caucasians. It impacts African Americans. The CO morbidity is of of Diabetes Or. Any of these different things that can impact a player. They're all going to have to wrestle with these over the next few days and weeks, and if you're the New England patriots don't you think Peter Bill is going to say, well, we can't hit until August eighteenth. Going to run these guys into the ground to get them physically ready because I didn't have any offseason to make sure they were in shape. Yeah. It. The other thing I really wanted to talk to you about was. For some reason. There's something about and I'm getting exaggerate. I don't know why and you tell me if I'm all wet I'm not saying that Bill Belichick is happy to lose maybe most important defensive player. But I wonder. Is there something about this about coaching JV. Team on defense. And Brady gone that he's thinking man is going to be fun though I think he's sick to his stomach. Really. Yeah. I really think he's got to be sick to his stomach. Maybe saw it coming but. This team, as you saw in the latter part of two thousand and nineteen was duct taped and glued together. They were five down the stretch. They were foreign four. They lost the Miami. Dolphins. At home in which their defense got overwhelmed, they had already lost Kyle van Noy, Jamie Collins and a decent bit player in Orlando. Roberts. Now they've lost. Patrick. Chung, and Dont`a hightower. You've lost a right tackle. You don't have any tackle depth at all. You lost conceivably a fullback who might have been helpful. You'RE GONNA have to pop up one of these tight ends to play. You have a new quarterback and if you WANNA be in a position. Peter to say you know what Brady was. Great. We loved them. They'll never be another one, but we're going to survive. It's GonNa be real hard I. really truly believe that I. Wonder. How many of these guys would pushed away from the table? If they were super bowl contenders, how many of these guys would have pushed away from the table? If they had Tom Brady right now would do they say we're going Tryin, start, rolling this rock uphill, the NFL doesn't really know exactly how it's going to operate here. We haven't heard a whole ton of. Positive feedback from players on the Patriots about their faith in what's going on. Right. And we're GONNA, come back and we're going to have a very on season. Why not just spend the time as I said earlier with my new wife. Child and I think that that is. Play a little golf here on their. You ever played golf with a guy who used to shoot the seventy S, and now he shoots in the eighties and he can't stand the play. Yeah. Of course, the Patriots are a team. It's used to shooting in the low seventies for you and me eighty five's great for them. They throw up all their shoes. They can't even bear the thought of it and I think that that is. Not GonNa live in the middle. They're not gonna live in sub-standard stuff that they're not used to do. You want to take the regional train Peter Up to Boston or are you going to be on the ACELA? Reassessment, not taken the regional train. You know what? I'm just curious about just just. Humor me for second now. Just. So that I know. More likely than not dividend, Jason mccourty returning. I. All Candor I've I can't get to read. I think they're still wrestling with it as we speak. I have not heard otherwise. But. You know good friends with them. I think professionally. We've had a great relationship where I've worked with them television with them over the course of time. But I think they're still trying to establish to me. I would imagine that Bill Belichick being who he is. Said these players look guys. I understand you might opt out, I need to know as soon as possible. So, I can imagine if either of those guys are going to say, thank you, but I can't do it this year, it will happen quickly and you know with all candor Peter. Devon's kind of dealing with a tragic family situation. This year, we lost a baby daughter. prior to birth and. That's gotta be hard to you WANNA. Be Supportive for your family and. These people put their lives on hold spouses. Girlfriends. Caretakers for the kids and it's those are the things that would weigh on me. If I'M A if I'm a first contract player trying to establish myself in the league with family, it's kind of a layup. For. Some of these established players, it's different. I would agree with you, but there's something about Something about Devin mccourty. That I think he he just reminds me of certain of. I don't WanNa say last man standing but. I, kind of view him. As one of these guys who would look at Belichick instead bill don't worry. I'M NOT GONNA I'm not taking off now. I don't I have no reason to think that whatsoever absolute, gut feeling. But when I think about him, that's what I. Think about that. There's a good chance I need you know, but it's not one of the great things have go check does Peter and you've known him since the early eighties is he finds players and entrust them very quickly with a level of leadership and ownership and belief in Confidence Jeremy Off often tells the story in two, thousand, eight he was. A first round pick and by two thousand nine when the team was dealing leadership voids after. All, the players went elsewhere. You know Rabl and Harrison and Seymour. Belichick sent Jura mail out in the second year, is the lone captain for the coin flips. Put everything on Male. He is in charge. He is our guy, that's our guy. And everyone had to look at him, why did he do that? Because Gerard Mayo could be a CEO of any company in America if you? What it was going to do. mcchord is the same way and I think that when you foist those responsibilities on a player and say I believe in you, you build a reciprocal level of. Not. Gratitude, but gratitude that means I will I will always be there for you because you helped. Make me who I am that exists I, tell you think about hightower, he's played for Sabin umbrella chicks since he was eighteen years old. At this point, he's like saying, and that's amazing that WanNa get a break from these guys. Amazing. That really is interesting. Anyway. You know what? I really was interested in doing tom just. So that people let's just say for the sake of argument that there are no more bombshells. Say that the mccurdy's comeback. Jason according starts to the corner. Devin. mccourty starts at safety. I want to go through the rest of his defense. Now, a defense that has also lost Doron, harmon played sixty, five percent of the stamps last year, obviously Patrick Chung. Also, sixty five of the snaps they lost Danny. Shelton played half the snaps as a run stuffer Now, Dante hightower gone and to me. The you know the guy who in my opinion. You know what? I voted him. All pro last year. It was Kyle van Noy Yup one percent of the snaps hugely important. But what I WANNA do is I want to talk about what's GonNa happen on his defense now. Okay. So my feeling coming into the draft and the Patriots had a couple of guys higher than a lot of teams in the league. Did they drafted to two linebackers, Kate Joshu from Michigan and Anthony Jennings from Alabama and? And Anthony, Jennings showed flashes under Nick Sabin of being a really good two way player. You know playing well against the run and also a could rush the passer. So I look at those two guys I look at chase, when of age con back from last year and you know, and then you look at the safety position what they drafted Kyle Duggar near the Small College Guy But a hidden gem and I. Remember because I could tell you how much Anthony Land Light? Adrian. Phillips with your. Unrestricted Free Agent Safety, he came to the Patriots bargain-basement guy. So I've just thrown a name, Salad. You with a bunch of these guys, I want you to tell me for people watching the Patriots defense this year. What gives the any hope that they can be top fifteen or twenty. that they still have the best cornerback in football in Stefan Gilmore and that they have the best secondary in football, even without who bill belichick says, one of the best players period and football Adrian Phillips can be that Suto box safety that Chung was. He can cover your tight ends a little bit not like Chung maybe, but he can do that accord. He's still the center fielder Stefan Gilmore over here, Jason Cody over here, you have Jesse Jackson Jonathan, Jones who are two excellent, young. Corners Jesse. Jesse Jackson might be in the week for a long time and making dough. They also tune the most underrated defensive Lineman in the League in Lawrence Guy and Adam. Butler Butler was kind of a force last year. So they get interior pass rush. They don't get crap out of the edges and I am curious to see if win of can do much. If you turns into an every down guy because he's got kind of a Bruschi body, he's Gumby he can get around people down in around but. He is. Playing a little, Lord. THAN THAN SAY A. Right now in the nominal starter, opposite laurence. Guide would be John Simon Right. I'm in his lock, John? Simon is one of the most athletic players I wonder if of can be more than a third down guy. Yeah. Well, that's my question. Can he be kidding hold up and hold the edge if one's coming at him because he's not that massive? But y'all want Bentley in the middle is your. Entire. Keystone. Because, his presence was going to allow hightower to be the edge presence now that high. Towers Gone Bentley S to be the brain back there at the second level. And make sure that the two ends talking and front understands what the back is doing, and then whatever you get from Jennings and. Is. Hate to say it's GonNa. Be a bonus because how many rookie linebackers aside from Mayo? who was the NFL defensive rookie of the year and maybe brandon spikes, you need that. Big. Brain. In the middle of the Patriots, Defense Yeah to just run the controls and say you find doing what you doing covey around I think. They're. GonNa. I. I. Dunno, I think. You've you've you know you're asking a lot of Bentley? He's what is he third year? Right? Earn your fifth trump can hit. He's a bigger guy, not real fast. But okay, two-way guy. As you were mentioning and and tell me tell me about tell me about Kyle Duggar, and what do you expect to happen with? What's cool about him is you look at me like, okay. Bill with another second round pick of safety and this guy's from Lemoyne. He's twenty four years old. But why is he different than second round pick on Wilson and second round pick? Cyrus Jones, all these other safety, the difference is. Those. Guys came from bigger programs. And they didn't really test. Great. and Bill fell in love and Jordan Richardson other. Guy but they were smarter or they fit a niche. With Duggar. It's the measurable that are off the charts. Andy is intelligent and able to get just hasn't played at the same level. That bill usually gets really over the moon about SEC, big ten, whatever. So, they've said, okay, you know what we're. We're going for the athlete. We're going for a secondary type of Jamie Collins here southern Miss Oh and thirteen in the year before he was drafted from southern. MESSI. Came in turn himself into a real good player. I think the Kyle Duggar can be along the same lines. It's GonNa screw up some stuff going to be thrown at him that he didn't see it Lemoyne, but the upside of it is he's a ridiculous athlete. So that that I think is the aim of what they're trying to do there that they haven't done in the past, but they have been screaming out for a Patrick Chung apprentice for years and hadn't really been able to come up with it. Are, we're GONNA finish this off by playing lightning around five questions. All right. the key to this lightning round is that you were allowed to answer every one of these questions. In only one sentence. Are you ready? To. Wear among the top. Twenty. Ranked quarterbacks in the NFL in two thousand and twenty in passer rating. What Number Will Tom? Brady be? Tom, Brady will be fourth. One, hundred, three, point nine. That's two sentences. What percentage chance? Is there that Cam Newton is starting quarterback opening day for the Patriots Ny Ninety, two percent. because. Talent will win out. And when you add these comments and when you look at. What he has seen. In the NFL. In contrast to which are at Steadham his scene with the Patriots. NFL wins out over experience with the Patriots. Why does Stephen Gostkowski not have job in the NFL right now. Cost too much money. And people got check out that hip of his, he'll be working soon. percentage. Chance that the NFL plays two, hundred, fifty, six regular season games in thirteen play games culminating in the Super Bowl whenever that is. Forty, six percent chance the reason. There will be hot spots which don't rectify themselves in the next forty five days, but there will be much better news in the middle of August trending into September as the spots. Cool. Final New England patriots record. Two. Thousand and twenty eight, nate. No. Playoffs. Tom Current off the griddle I really appreciate it. Thank you for playing my silly reindeer games. This, love it. Buddy and good luck covering the NFL from your living room this year. You. Know what? I'm going up to Gillette in about an hour, I'm going to be standing on the perch. Even if a makeup pretend, I. AM cover. It were pretending. It's happening. Until. They tell us otherwise take care of yourself. My thanks to John Schneider Tom. Curran. Really. Interesting discussion with both and I appreciate their time when everybody is far too busy from late July. Thanks so much for joining me this week. I just might have. The MVP, the National Football League on this podcast next week. So please stay tuned. Come back. And, listen to this podcast this week and every week as we begin to navigate very strange time in NFL history.

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Gold with Jeanette Schneider Episode 35: Leaving Good with Ashley Callen

Gold with Jeanette Schneider

53:00 min | 1 year ago

Gold with Jeanette Schneider Episode 35: Leaving Good with Ashley Callen

"<music> <music> welcome to gold with john schneider negative inspiration for a bigger better more purposeful life <music> each week we share wisdom inside in gold from those living their very best slides after twenty three years and finance and a fancy s._b._p. Titled i left corporate in america to advocate for women and girls life love the boardroom and the marketplace now the c._e._o. Of my own media company my goal is to change the world for my daughter and her friends my first book laura harnessing your past create. Your future dropped late twenty eighteen and his basam what women wish they would have known when they were girls. This is purposeful content big conversations shins and a safe place to share our gold energy for the future. We record every week from the sound studio at the space l._v. Ashley cowan believes you have to leave good good to get two great but it wasn't an easy road in two thousand fourteen. She tested positive for the one g mutation. Most commonly known as the breast cancer gene came directly after choosing to have a preventative double mastectomy something she calls both the hardest and easiest decision. She's ever made her husband. Dave was severely injured in a helicopter adopter crash which left him with a broken back and a collapsed lung while the parents of toddlers healed ashley preparing for reconstructive surgery and david physical therapy they also also realized they were just surviving in always and that life is too short to settle for good ashley and i talk about the emotional fallout removing her breasts and what she so as a sign of her femininity the power of the family she has found within police wives of america and the tough work dave and ashley had to face in order to strengthen their marriage after difficulty we get deepen relationships and talk about communication compassion and hard conversations ashley also shares the ref spaces she in dave navigated that then put them in the spotlight as national speakers for bless the badge law enforcement conferences and became the foundation of the book. They are co writing that drops later this year. Let's dig in. I'm so excited to have in the studio with me today. Ashley cowan thank you for joining the person you're welcome. I'm so happy to be here. Yes absolutely i. I met ashley several months ago and you have such a beautiful beautiful story. I was immediately like i feel like you should come on. We met at an event that it was bringing women together. We're kind of sharing stories and things like that and <hes> we both come from professional careers. You're an air traffic controller yup and i think what struck me about your story. Okay and then i wanted to talk to you about was like you just shine like positively and you've had some hard things happen and i wanted to kind of talk about that because out of such hard things things you've created this really beautiful relationship with your husband that ashes writing a book right now and her publisher told her like this isn't a book about like you guys overcoming these hard things it's a love story and i wanted to dig into that because so many people find <hes> that in tragedy relationships begin to diminish initially begin to breakdown so i kind of want to dig in a little bit i know <hes> first and foremost in two thousand fourteen tested positive for the b. be cri gene yeah the breast cancer gene so most people know it by the angelina jolie breast cancer gene because she's the one who kind of brought light to hewitt made it more famous when she tested positive for and then underwent a preventative double mastectomy and so i come from a long line of breast cancer sir my mom was diagnosed with stage four breast cancer at thirty nine years old in both breasts she she survived it always want to say that because everyone always thinks man she alive is she okay and she just celebrated twenty years in remission yeah this year so it was good but we were young and she had very aggressive breast cancer i think all the doctor said she survived it because she had three little girls not something to live for and i think it just goes to show just her spirit and her fighter spirit and that's where we get a lot of my resiliency from my positively my fighter spirit is for my mom and watching everything she went through with very young kids at a young age yeah so when my mom had the genetic testing i i have not had children yet and she told us i carry the breast cancer gene. I think you girls should get tested. I didn't want to know to be honest. I've was twenty one years old at the time and thought i'm invincible. I'm already high risk. I'm not gonna worry about it if it happens. It happens right. I that was my twenty. One year old self mentality well then fast forward a couple years. I get married. I have my own kids and that changes everything absolutely and i really decided you know what i need to take my health and my own hands. I can't leave it to chance because i have two beautiful baby girls who i want to be around for so i got the genetic testing. I wasn't surprised surprised when it was positive and i made a decision to have the double mastectomy and it was hard but easy at the same time. How quickly did you make the decision. After finding out <unk> rather quickly i remember sitting my doctor's office with dave with my husband. We were sitting there and then she came back in and she said the test results are positive you carry okay the bracco and gene mutation so you're an extremely high risk for breast cancer and ovarian cancer. When do you want to have the surgery and i remember sitting there not really fully processing. It and i looked at dave and i was like well. I mean we have the girl's. Birthday party comes up for and that it's my birthday and then it's the holidays. It's just not a good time and i thought of all these reasons why shouldn't have done and she looked at me and said well. You're ticking time bomb. It's not a matter of if you're going to have cancer. It's a matter of win and i would much rather do the surgery. Get it over within two years from now you'll be back in here battling breast cancer while and us going well. We should have yeah so. She looked at dave and said. Do you think she should have it. Davis like why don't want her to have cancer yeah. I think you should have it so it's like okay. She's aggressive yes but i mean rightfully so absolutely and she i adore my doctor. She was fantastic but that's what i needed because i think we can talk ourselves in out of anything where own worst enemy and at the same time i needed to have done well and you're you're using all of these scheduling conflicts as a way of not not actually meeting it right yeah not dealing with it. It's much much easier to say. I'm planning a birthday party for two and four year old and i wanna move my breasts right. That's a big statement what you just said like. I distract me when you said that because i mean let's be honest. They are such a huge part of us as a woman right and now we feed our children. It's there you know we kind of honor them. I'm in a lot of ways and so it's a huge decision to kind of decide that you're going to be done with them to some extent but i mean you had such such a big reason. How long after you have the surgery so i had the surgery the end of july so it was about eight weeks later and thankfully i was planning a birthday they party and i was working fulltime as traffic controller at the time with a crazy schedule so i never really had time to let it sink in to what i was really doing which was good and bad. I think not thinking about it made me be able to sleep at night. Kept the anxiety at bay shore but the two weeks after the surgery were really hard. It was a very hard surgery. I questioned. Why did it so many times. I was really sick afterwards. I got almost depressed. I did get depressed. I fell into a really dark place salaam. I cried a lot. I thought like what did i do and as silly as it sounds to. Some other people like well. You saved your life. You chose to to have this double mastectomy but it beats getting cancer and i used to think but i don't know my breasts are assigned to my femininity you know and it's it was a hard a decision and i really i don't want to say i regretted it but it really i really had a hard time with dealing with it after the fact and i had a couple of drains and each side for two weeks i couldn't shower by myself. Dave had to wash my hair in the sink. He had to give me sponge pass. It was a constant reminder. Yes yes. I didn't want to look at my chest. I was all bandaged up and then afterwards after a couple of weeks later probably about three weeks later i started going in for my weekly fills because what they do they put spaces in your chest to expand the chest cavity while you're healing and you go in once a week and you get saline injected to them and you do a little bit over every week and they slowly expand and probably my second phil i was sitting there and i really feel like god intervened like house in a bad place and i walked into the waiting waiting room and it was packed and sat down next to this lady and we started talking and she was my age and sorry i talk about it so she is my age and she had a son who was my daughter's age and she was obscene away so i knew she was going to cancer and she started telling me that she was on her second round of chemotherapy ema therapy because her cancer her bones before they found it in right then there was like i felt bad guilty for feeling so bad because i didn't have cancer her. I wasn't sick. I wasn't fighting to save my own life when i'm trying to raise babies at the same time so i remember leaving office that day. I call dave and i'm crying. I'm like what's wrong because he answers the phone. Yeah and i'm crying. He's like oh my gosh. What now like. I thought everything was okay. Thank you and i told him the story about her. I said i'm done. I'm done feeling sorry for myself. I made the right decision ray and i know she was placed in my life for a reason because i could not snap myself out of it and that one conversation with her and just seeing what i could be going through <hes> made me so so thankful that i made a decision and unfortunately never saw her again so i pray every day that she beat it and she is living the high life somewhere raising those babies and just kicking butt and taking names that was that's what it took to really make me come to terms with my decision and then about four months later later on new year's eve. My husband was in helicopter crash so i have the space. There's in my chest. My girls were two and four my husband was in a helicopter the crash he ended up with a broken back. He had to compression fractures in two of his lower vertebrae. She had a broken elbow. He sprained wrist. Both his lungs partially collapsed oppsed and that i felt like the world hit me hit me hard. I remember standing in my kitchen after the fact a couple of days later and i had what felt like like boulders on my chest. I was two weeks out from reconstruction dave sitting there on the couch in a back brace. He can't even get off the couch by himself. I feel like the world's imploding on me. I've got to in a four year old and still working fulltime and i'm thinking how in the world are we gonna get through it one of the things. I wanted to make sure like you share you. Were on your air traffic control. <hes> you are on the phone with him when this came down on the radio with him when this went down. That's that's that's you've you've just gone through this big surgery and this emotional kind of reckoning with yourself right and then you're watching. Your husband hurts whilst that i was actually the first time oh jeez. They didn't really to engine failures. We've had the unique dasher yeah the first time we had only been married less than a year and the first time he lost his engine which was uneventful midterms of helicopter engine failures but i was actually there traffic controller talking to him and all i heard was him say that he's going down over the radio. I looked up on the radar scope and he had fallen off it. I got really upset obviously because i didn't know if he was alive because we all know what helicopter crashes look like we've all seen the pictures in the movies and and it took about twenty minutes to hear that he was okay he had done a textbook auto rotation to in the middle of the street and was fine but being the air traffic controller talking to him and it being my husband gone through a lot of different stressful situations when it comes to air traffic over the years but when it's someone you love and your best friend and take that twenty minutes felt like an eternity so yeah that was about ten years ago and then this next luckily i wasn't working on new year's eve but it so when i got the phone call he actually called me and he when he answered he said actually was putting the girls down for a nap and so i just answered i answered and said they'd let me call you back. I'll clean the girls go down and he said paul and i just crashed and we're laying on the side of the road and the phone hung up so of course here we go again the the emotions and so immediately calls phone back. It goes right to voicemail at this point. I'm now crying two year old four year old or crying. They're following me down the stairs <music>. I'm in a panic. I call the hanger and one of the guys answered and there was a lot of commotion in the background and he said i know they're alive but i know they're hurt. You need to get to you so so you need to get to the hospital <hes> and so. I called my best friend. I don't even think she said hello before i said dave crashed and then i've saw phone number coming through so hung up on her and it was the the officer who was in the ambulance with him and he said you know he said i have to call you because they took when the fire department showed up they took his phone and everything and you know so that's why it had hung up dummy and he said he can move his legs but his back is hurt. <hes> so then i went to the hospital and we he was very lucky we know for fact somebody was looking looking out for them because he even says now he thought for sure that they were going to die because they are only five hundred feet above the ground because that's how low they fly. It was eleven seconds from the time the engine quit to the time of impact and there was power lines everywhere. They were over a very old part of los vegas and he said he looked around and thought there's. There's nowhere go. I just have to clear these power lines and i pray. I don't hit a house because i know we're dying but i don't want to kill anyone on the ground and so he hold the guts out of the helicopter to clear earlier a pair of power lines and then put it into the ground right below a set of power lines and they touchdown right in the middle of the ground. Everybody who investigated you didn't came out later told me i don't know how he put that helicopter where he did. There is no explanation why they're still here. There's no explanation how he didn't kill anyone around him. Mhm or themselves and five years ago. His best friend had died on a rescue out here and there's no doubt in my mind that he was looking out for them. Then that's the the reason that they're still here and i know he celebrated. It was a five year anniversary of his passing yesterday right <hes> and i know you i mean you have this huge <hes> <hes> family within law enforcement and and you all have learned more than anything you'll take care of each other and look out for each other and <hes> i had <hes> emberley logo on the podcast awhile back and her husband was <hes> an officer and she had been in a terrible motorcycle accident and everyone thought she was a cop because of support that that came through so what was it like in the days after the crash. The police community is fantastic. When i first started speaking <hes> law enforcement conferences i wanted to find a way to describe what it's like and what it's like to be part of this community and i was really struggling to give justice were justices do and i heard john happy maker speak <hes> and gen- talks about elephants circles and how the wild and there's a woman a woman. There's a female elephant who's giving birth and she super vulnerable that all the female elephants in the pack or tribe. I don't know what you know what you call a group of elephants but they a all stand around her and they faced outwards and they stomp their feet as loud as they can and kick up dirt to tell all the predators that if they want to attack their sister at her time. I'm that she's most vulnerable. They're gonna have to get them. I and i remember sitting there crying. Thinking that is what a police community is. We all come together. We back teach other. It's hard to ask for help an awful lot. It and pride gets in the way and i think i'm super mom and super women. I got it. I got it. I got this. I don't need me help so i had a ton of texts and phone calls the day of the crash and the next day after and i always have the same thing oh we're good. Thank you because everyone and says what can i do for you. Do you need anything and me. Being ridiculous. Prideful would be like no. We're good. We got got it. No we didn't have it. I've got toddlers. I'm trying to work my. I can't take a full breath because of these boulders on my chest and so that our wives group here there's almost thousand women in it and they're phenomenal and kind of the lady who started at all didn't believe me and she knew i wasn't fine so she started. I did a mule train. That's amazing and for like two and a half months strangers people we didn't even know brought us dinner every night and that was such a relief because i don't know about you you but what's for dinner my nemesis especially with little yes littlewoods and then we have doctors appointments and physical therapy and i'm trying to work out everything's gonna work and so it was such a blessing and it was just amazing to see all these people who don't even know us who have our backs because they're part of the law enforcement family and they just really came together and lifted lifted us up supported us and let us know like it's gonna be hard and the road to recovery is hard right and we don't know what it's gonna look like dave overfly again physically emotionally like we got you like we got your back. Whatever you need now is just sometimes. You just need someone to go. Oh it's okay it's okay and you can in your home and you upset and you can be where you are today. We'll take care of the perimeter. Yeah stand in the middle stand in the middle of circle because it's your time and there's going to be other times when you're going to be on the outside of that circle protecting someone else but just take your time in circle and that's not a bad thing. It doesn't mean you're a weak person. It doesn't mean you're a bad mom or a bad wife because you can't do it. All it just means you're human. What was your relationship blake with. <hes> with your husband after like i know he's going to physical therapy. You're going through reconstructive surgery. You've got little kids at home. You both i mean what were the conversations like. What was it like when like everyone's and batons just the two of you <hes> survival. I mean lina really at that point in our lives. We were working opposite schedules because for childcare reasons so we didn't have a day off we actually up until february hadn't the day off together in eight years because we needed to work opposites for childcare reasons. He'd worked swing shift. I'd be on days and so we kind of passed in the wind a lot and then when that happened it was our world was turned upside down and it was. How do we manage all of this. How do we make it all work so i felt like instead of being a married read couple without really emotional connection. It almost turns into survival mode and every conversation is around. How are we going to make tamara work. How are we going to get it to the doctor's appointments. How are we going to take the kids to preschool. What do i need to change. My work scheduled to look like what babysitter do. We need to come over. How do we just how we make it all work and it just takes and then you're emotionally drained as it is so it definitely put a lot of strain on her marriage i and then i also had the question in the back of my mind. Are you gonna fly again. <hes> you know that's always hard because i know it's his calling he's really good at it and he's one of the rescue pilots so he goes out to the mountains on night late night vision goggles seasons time yeah and these people would die if they didn't go out there and get them and so i know he loves what he does does. He is good at it but i'm selfish side. I want my girls to have their dad sure you know like i don't want to be a widow. I've seen way too many of that in the last ten years ars and so i would ask him a couple of different times and you know he would always say no. I want to fly because at the time he to wasn't at a place where he i was okay being emotionally vulnerable about the situation that law enforcement was different back then than it was now even five years ago it was everybody's the tough guy it's we don't talk about emotions. We don't talk about p._t._s._d. It's just when your body is physically able to get back out there you get back out there and so that was his mentality mentality and that was always and there was a lot of strain when we would have that conversation because he didn't understand he viewed it as not being supportive of him and his career and his dream and then i viewed it as him not caring about my feelings and him putting work above his family which none of that was true. We we just weren't communicating. We were just hearing what we thought. The other person was saying well that happened so much like when people are experiencing something really traumatic together right. You're both healing like these scars and wounds within but if you don't get clear on what i'm dealing with and what you're dealing with you're coming to each other as people yeah and i've seen a lot for for me. My experience has been with infertility and watching couples <hes> who cannot have a child elder lose a child and then how that affects that affects them <hes> and so many marriages fail through the course of that because they're very vulnerable honorable. It's like i'm a man but i can't have a child born but i can't bear your child. Yes what are you know are true values and how do we it's your identity. I think i think it gets wrapped up in it a little bit and if you're not gonna like clearing the space to talk as a couple and be like what are you going through. What am i going through. So what did you guys do. What was what were the steps apps out. I am so excited to finally announced what i am working on it because it has been so hard not to talk about it today. 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All caps at loves viral dot com again that is loves viral dot com code gold v._i._p. In all caps join the movement a little bit and if you're not committed clearing the space to talk as a couple and be like what are you going through. Yes what am i going through. So what. What did you guys do like. What was what were the steps out. So what really kind of changed was about two years ago so for a couple years after everything everything happened and he went back to work he fully recovered. I recovered from what i was going through my surgeries and everything we kind of put everything pint as things got more normal again but we were still back apt to working opposite schedules. We're back to the grind but really life almost had a little bit more clarity for both of us in that situation and we really realized something has to give something to change because we cannot just keep going through the motions or life's gonna tear us apart. We really need to look at okay. How do we help. How do we have life life post together. Versus push us apart because right now. We're just going through the motions. We love each other. We are each other's best friends. We are committed to our marriage but marriage is not as good as it could be. It's okay and from the outside looking in. We've got it all right. We've got the house. The car is we go on vacations. We've got the jobs but at the end of the day. What are you sacrificing for that right. So two years ago. We were on a disney cruise and the girls were at the kids club and we were at one of those adult only restaurants and having dinner and we really started talking about. Where do we go from here. How do we make make changes that we need to change. How do we give up the good to get to the great and that kind of became our thing over the next year. We really decided air-traffic. Wasn't where my heart it was the rotating shift work. It just was draining me physically it was it was exhausted mentally. I didn't feel like i was showing up as my best self for my husband for my kids for my friends and i desperately needed to change but that's scary. Change is scary and i feel like it paralyzes you and then i really really through talking to him about it. We realized okay. It's not starting over. We're gonna start right where we're at right here today and we're going to pivot ninety degrees and we're gonna walk in a different direction so so what does that look like and it really it was the first time i think we had really hard conversations and then a few months later we attended bless the badges that organization that we speak with and i am heavily involved with a nonprofit called police wives of america so please wise of america we had sponsored plus. The bads come to vegas and david. I attended the marriage conference. Then afterwards we were talking to the founders and we just started sharing our story and she said we would love for you guys to join our team to be guest speakers at as many conferences as you can. We know 'c schedules are crazy and he's still working and you're transitioning and all the stuff so she was like whatever ever you guys can do. We'd appreciate it and two months later we spoke at our very first conference in dallas and as we are preparing our powerpoint and are speaking points and putting together gather audio and pictures it was the first time we walked through our journey together of how far we've come in the past decade and after we spoke at that conference for an hour we just had so many people show us so much. Love and people cried with us. They laughed with us. It was just so fun and we really felt like this was are calling. This is what we were made to do. We walk through some really hard things and we came out even stronger on the other side and now we've been given a platform to share that story and inspire others. I mean that was was two years ago and now we've spoken at quite a few. Were writing a book rate. We're really open about our story in our struggles and we're in a better place now than we ever have have been because we cleared the air between us and we really got to talking about what is this all look like and really through speaking and sharing our story. It gives you an opportunity to look back back ten years ago at things that have happened and to really peel the onion back and talk about being vulnerable and how did we feel then and looking back on it like man if he would have had these conversations back then it would prevent a lot of things will you talked about like when all of this went down like he had that kind of tough guy kind of thing going on right and so now you know even even with the book like he has to get vulnerable. He has to kind of and is he. Much more comfortable in that space is easier now because you guys have opened up to have conversations are the easier to come from by absolutely okay yep definitely is i think things are just changing in law enforcement in general. I think it's getting more there's more of those conversations that are happening and and i think just in overall with everybody society i think the the whole self-care notion and self. I don't know if self-help is the right word. Maybe it is goverry lately. Yeah discovery exactly and you know you. Just you see it being more talked about and it's becoming more normalized yet and people don't view it as oh. You need to go see a therapist because something's wrong. No you're gonna see a therapist beer. Better your best version of yourself yeah. Preventative medicine is becoming more and more normal. I think that that that's true right like every show you're watching. I was watching queer eye for the straight guy last night. They're they're fixing. It's five gay men who are helping this guy who got shot because he was in a gang and he's turned his life around now that he's disabled and you're just like it's okay to open up and have conversations conversations and one of the things i think is really interesting for me is <hes> not being afraid of the hard conversations and conflict yup yep. If you have someone across the table from you who's willing to come to you with a pure heart and talk to you from their their spirit and their soul right so many sometimes we greet each other as wounded people and it's hurt people hurt people. He'll he'll rain right and if you're on the path together to get to the healed healed. It's a much different conversation. Shen you know my boyfriend and i we had a little bit of a spat last night right because he said something that triggered it had happened in my past. It was one of those moments where he's like. I can tell by the on your face that i have upset you and i'm like but i'm not sure it's you in particular yeah yeah but you've hit something right and so and then he walks with me through it which is amazing right yeah. When you get to that place where you can look at your partner and be like i love you you choose. You and here's what i'm dealing with. I'm not sure if i'm mad at you or madame myself right. You know that that's a game changer and i think that's it's where a lot of people struggle and a lot of the conversations we have with people who are struggling and i love my favorite part of speaking is what comes afterwards and the conversations and the fellowship you you have with people afterwards and what the women with the couples and but so many people stats where they get hung up is i yes. I love him and i wanna be with him but i don't like him right now but that's okay because that's a relationship and let's be honest. It's not all unicorns and rainbows and that's the stuff people don't wanna talk about. It's like the era of social media right. Everything is great great great great great and then all of a sudden you hear they're getting divorced and people are shocked but they look so happy online yeah like well. No it's just a facade like you're watching their highlight reel. You're watching their life in squares. You don't know what's going on behind closed. Doors and people are getting dan this comparison trap where their life their life must be perfect and that's we have a whole chapter in our book dedicated to our marriage isn't perfect like we've had struggles here have where we've struggled just because we're writing a book doesn't mean our marriage is perfect and we really want to be open about that. Because a lot of people i think give up. Don't work the heart. Things don't have the conversations union boyfriend did process the things and walk their hand on hand because they think well our marriage he must not be the one our marriage must not work because i don't like him right now and because i have these feelings and it's okay it's natural. Everyone does but it's what you do with them. That's so interesting. I've read something the other day and it was like be careful that you don't find yourself at the end of your life alone because instead of saying this person's not good for me or where we don't vibe or whatever or i guess he's not the one you haven't dealt with conflict resolution right and i think about that every time i'm like ooh. I'm about to invite this this person out of my life even with friendships like have i dealt with conflict resolution if i approach them from pure place and tell them what i'm feeling and what i'm seeing and give him an opportunity to respond. Could that be an opportunity for us to understand each other better and ourselves ray and i think there's there's definitely the comparison thing i think is really <hes> dangerous and has been because even when you go to dinner at another person's house or have an experience with them. He said we see the way other couples and tracked. They seem so happy for oh. They're toxic. We isn't isn't that. We immediately want to like throw labels on people and kind of be like either. We're better or worse than them. No one ever gives each other space. We're all getting by right. We i mean let's be honest honest. We're all just a hot mess trying to make it through the day. I i read something to that. I like totally resonated with me where it was like. No one has it figured out note. Nope not one person has it figured out we are using our life experiences and the mistakes and the tragedies and the triumphs she just make the next best decision every single day and i think that's where it kind of comes down to having that compassion for self and other yes. I'm recognizing that relationships are really beautiful. Things are there to serve you. <hes> till you grow and <hes>. I think that's really beautiful. Do you guys have any practices that you've incorporated into your marriage to help with the hard conversations or or even with just coming together like do you ever find like over orbiting off into different areas like one of you. There's a flag or something like how do you do it yeah. We've really started taking breaks if we need them because we're both very type. A personality is just come. Some are career. We're both in. We were both in careers that it was you have to be one hundred percent right till you one hundred percent wrong and we've had to really learn how to not only communicate but listen list truly listening has been hard for both of us and not especially for for me because i my brain goes a million miles faster than my mouth and so he's talking i'm already coming up with my rebuttal and i haven't heard a word that he actually said and he is really bad interrupting because he'll say he'll just start interrupting me like you did it again. You just interrupted me and that makes me feel disrespected respected and unheard right. I couldn't have said that two years ago but i like an and he's like i just interrupt you because if i don't say now i'm going to boyfriend says yeah he could talk talk. Talk talk talk and i never you never come up for air so i never have a chance to say anything so we can tell now when we're and we both have triggers and we know what to say to make the other person is mad as i am right now right so we'll say okay. We need to take a break. I need twenty minutes to cool off eighty. Get my thoughts together and then we come back. I told i call it processing so there's moments where like i need to process and he's like okay. He knows that i will come back ready to discuss right but there are times where i'm like what you're gonna get from me right. Now is not positive. I'm gonna come out you to either hurt you or out of anger or sadness so i need to go process and then i can come back to you from a better space but it's so funny with the interrupting. I get the same thing that it's like. I if i don't tell you now i'm going to forget but then you're kind of like wait a minute. I'm really i can't remember there was going to say right so there's going to be a better solution today. I i figured out. We're gonna talk about something. Everyone gets a pen and a piece of paper. They can make a note real. Quick your job running leave. I think it's just so important and like i like that right right because like you find ways to adapt out of respect right and i think that's the thing that's most important to me is that there has to be respect for self and respect like for other. Yes and i think so many times we come into situations. I'm already. We are boxing gloves on right and it's it's so many times unwarranted yup so crazy. I don't know why this is really sticking with the queer eye show last night. The guy was shot the key <hes> they arranged for him to meet the man that shot him to ask him why <hes> why did you shoot me. We weren't fighting fighting with someone else but why did you shoot me and like he had held this for like seven years <hes> and couldn't seem to get past. It and i said i had no malice in my heart but i saw that you had a gun and if i didn't shoot you could shoot me malsin. He was like oh they were in a violent mindset. Both of them went to prison the other ones disabled and they're both trying to like live better lives but so many times like like i mean that's very big example but i mean so many times. We have no idea why the other person across the table is talking to us in a certain way or treating creating a certain way unless we're kind of like halo into your a little bit yes exactly and sometimes we don't even realize it we don't realize the look on our face and we don't realize the tone in our voice choice and tell once hey hang on a second they you're starting to raise your voice. No i'm not well. I'm sitting across from you. I'm feeling something come dan. Yes like i can feel your energy going to that place so maybe we should take a second back. When we first got married we used to live under the mindset of you. Never go to bed got angry right like you never go to bed angry because you never know what's gonna happen tomorrow and you have to resolve everything that night. Well then you get to the point where okay i don't get off work until ten thirty at night and now i'm home and it's eleven o'clock at night and mad about something and now we're going to have this big huge argument at next thing you know it's like three a m beating a dead horse now. We're both tired. It's not going anywhere and i have to go to work the next morning or he has to go to network the next morning now. No one's no one is left. We're still angry. We didn't resolve anything yeah so i really think there's some truth to that but at the same time there is times when you just have to table things i you know i it's so with louis and he did the same thing one time. He got mad at me these islands about leading -gree so he got angry. I went to bed angry just and then the next morning. He's like oh well like he and i'm like. I'm finally overnight process that i've slept on it and he's just he's now. His mad is up here right right like you into bed. That made me so angry that you did that and it's funny because i'm like i think we need to see sometimes. You just have to kinda like okay truce. <hes> i love you respect you yes but we're not going to be healthy doing this right now. Exactly i love you and i respect you in any process. It and i need a minute and will deal with it. You know when we're ready when i go to bed. I might be frustrated but i still love you. Oh yeah there's still love their work through it. <hes> i think it's just kind of changing paradigms sir so much of what relationship devices old cliche quotes and things people people used to say <hes> that whole don't go to bed angry or i just i think sometimes like we adopt these things that don't really they don't really they're not genuine. They're deceased. Saccharin quotes that are just run over situations and you can make it what it is to like. Compatibility <hes> so compatibility is a big one on like especially with you. When people are dating people are looking for someone they're gonna marry or even they've been married for ten years and like we just don't jive anymore like we just have grown apart and i always think well instead of being so worried about compatibility and i really think online dating plays into that right you take all these tests like who are you compatible with but you have to worry about unity yeah because if dave and i were to take those compatibility test we probably wouldn't be compatible. We're different in so many ways but we also are the same in so many ways but even bigger bigger picture stuff. We're unified together and growing together thoughts like the kind of the value that i'm recognizing is it used to be when i would date or look for a partner i would i would almost kind of i would see them through this rosy lens of who i thought that they could be yes right rather than me like oh people will tell you who they are straight off the bat. They'll be like i can be such a jerk and you're like oh no. I'm sure you're not like wow that guy was really a dirt right and you're like okay so he actually told me and i think that's that's. The thing too is what i i've looked for in my partner is that the person was willing to grow with me and be open square up and be like okay. Tell me what you're feeling. I'll tell you what i feel and a lot of times like we talked about it. It's an you're coming from different places triggered from past trauma. You've got it has nothing to to do with what actually went down and or it's a small shift that someone needs to make so that they understand hey when you do that makes me feel disrespected. <hes> oh wow i had no idea i won't do that again because because i never want you to feel that i'm disrespecting you just that conversation aloneness like so deepen in thoughtful <hes> and i go that far it does go fine. I mean 'cause everybody will agree. Communication is the foundation of every relationship whether that's with your children with your spouse your boyfriend your friends whatever but then it's a hard thing to do. We all know and agree. It's the foundation and we need to have strong communication but i would say most people don't really know how to communicate and communicate with different people people because everyone's communication style is different and when it comes to from what i see a lot of times especially with wives is it comes down to they you you know fear creates obstacles but faith creates possibilities and i feel like people fear having those conversations with their husband because what if he leaves me. I don't wanna make can mad like what if he doesn't love me well. They let all this fear of all these things that they're now creating in their own mind become obstacles in their marriage whereas if they had faith in why they got married they had give your spouse some credit that he does love you and that you love him and your love is gonna pull you through and then it makes it easier to have the conversations because if you're not so scared of this outcome and you've told yourself this whole big story of why you can't tell your husband i really don't like it when you do this might feel disrespected and this makes me angry so just bottled up inside the next thing you know they blow up or he's never loved me. Disrespected me like it's our marriage is over over and the other person's going well. I don't even know what ever did wrong right. They seemed okay. That's one of the things that just frustrated me. Most people are like even friendships and someone's mad that you like and i'm like you. I don't i don't know what i did like you. Gotta tell me what i did. I have no idea what you're so angry with me right now. That doesn't seem fair rate iran or the non-confrontational. I can't talk to you about it. 'cause i'm non-confrontational. What's that about being confrontational. It's just about being community respect. Each other respect our friendship enough to have the conversation continues a good chance you misunderstood me. I misunderstood you rate. Probably what happened. It's so funny and especially especially like with little ones like i'm trying to help my daughter navigate friendships right now and it's challenging right because you realize that communication is such a gift but we make complicated with old stories and old patterns and i think it'd just be so much easier to be like she had a little friend that was mean to her the other day that was yelling ailing her. She said she said that i was annoying when she was telling me what happened and i'm like okay and my minded and say this out loud. We'll make i could see where she thought that you were being annoying right but you probably recognize some some of her body language or things that she was doing and so. It's like helping them navigate like if your friend is going the whole time you're talking. Stop yeah i might upsetting can you what's going on rather than continuing until the blow up until and while this holds preteen like she's eight so like as i moved through childhood adolescence since two preteen years i mean this is complicated helping them like navigate all of this stuff and we're an joke. Barely i think like my boyfriend friend and i do a very good job but it's very purposeful. There's an intention there. There's a mindfulness in our relationship that like were always available to talk the other about our relationship. Were children where we're going said that it's never off the table or never an uncomfortable thing it's like hey i need to check with you. Are we cool. Yeah what's going on. I haven't talked to you about this. Is i feel like i don't even say like i've been talking. A lot about. My projects haven't asked you a lot about yours. <hes> how are things going. Do you need download with me. 'cause i realise i might be a little self absorbed right now. Yeah just to kind of recognize. Sometimes your own behavior near relationships. I think is huge. Self-awareness is huge and i think it the other person really appreciates it. Yeah yeah <hes> any tips tricks for the philosphers as to how to deepen relationships things that you guys do i mean just take the brakes in talk. It sounds like it's really like communication and being unlike a unified couple. Oh absolutely i mean you have to find togetherness. Yeah and i think you have to still date your spouse. I know that's cliche and that's like a big instagram. Hashtag nowadays is but it's so true it's really easy especially with kids and opposite schedules in life in general to just forget that your husband and wife <hes> and so you you i mean i think weekly date nights are huge and they don't have to be big elaborate. Things like there are so many times where we have couch date nights. The girls are in bed like we're like okay well for an hour where just going to sit here. Have a glass of wine and talk yeah. We're gonna put on some silly t._v. Show or whatever but we're going to spend time intentional time together gather and the phones are going away and we're just going to be a couple like what would we do. If we were dating dating. We probably wouldn't sit on the couch. Why i don't know things have different albums thirteen eighteen years ago you know when you go to sit on the couch and you sit on your phone so we just really try to be intentional about. It and i would tell people that you have to. It's not selfish selfish to go on a date with your husband and i went through that i had mom gil so bad when the girls were little because i worked all the time and so to me when they were either at preschool or they had a sitter. I felt guilty abou- getting a sitter for two hours david. I could go to dinner because i feel like i didn't see them all day yeah and now i'm going to leave them with a sitter. So i can go have dinner with dave. No that doesn't make sense to me but i'm modeling what a relationship should be to them and kids feel they feel love and a stable home and even know you know even though they might cry and say i want you to go. It's going to do them so much better for are you. Just leave them with the babysitter. They're not gonna die. They're gonna be okay yeah so me a couple of hours and to really connect with your spouse and let them see what a relationship is supposed to be like because because they're going to feel so much more safe they can't voice it but they're gonna feel safe when their mommy daddy together and they're happy and they see affection affection. They see what love looks like as opposed to. You know maybe a relationship. That's a little strange because neither one of them is getting what they need and human connection connection is so important so important to us just as people and i think the more and more technology advances the more we get away from that so we really have to because we're not doing it as much in our personal lives with text messages and social media. We really have to make it a habit because it's easy to get away from because we're not doing it every day. I think modeling behavior in relationships for girls girls were boys seeing how the respect between a couple and and the connection you're one hundred percent right so my daughter recently told me she's like i love how much you ann lewis love each other uh-huh and she sees that respect back and forth and i can feel like grounded nece in her now. You know what i mean. So it's lighten. They feel there is a safety and having parents parents who love each other and take care of their relationship and i think it's a really beautiful message so thank you for sharing that because i didn't even think about that. I i'm aware of how it affects our girls <hes>. I wanted to pivot and ask you a question. I ask everyone that come. If you were to look at a version of your younger self. What age would she be. An what does she need from me. What would you tell her so. If i looked at my i would say twenty eight year old self okay i because she would be an tired exhausted. Mom who is trying to do everything who feels unfulfilled but his living by society standards uh-huh and i would tell her it's okay to it's okay to not be perfect. I would tell her. It's okay okay to let people know that you're struggling. It's okay to want to do something different and not feel guilty about it and then i would also tell her to to have that one or two people that you have conversations with and you share your dreams with and what you're doing because if you openly talk about it with everybody you stand to hear everyone's opinion right and none of their opinions matter and they're all gonna talk you out of being your self and they're gonna talk you out of designing a life you love evan actually living it but at the end of the day none of them actually have to live your life. None of them have to feel what you feel and so just it doesn't matter what anyone else thanks justin gobi you and strive to be the best version of yourself for yourself for your husband for your family and forget society diety standards. I think it's important. We have a tendency to look for validation outside of ourselves. Sometimes our ideas or our desires our dreams or what have you into many times times. It's it's not where it needs to be focused. Yes you have to have that kind of confidence within yourself and i do agree that it's such a great idea to have a couple of people that you can confide. I didn't kill dreams right there. I be supportive trusted. Well yeah le- and who you know even though it's not their dream right that they can be like okay. Let's talk through this process that too. I'm still going to cheer you on well and sometimes they give you ideas about this or you. Call this person. I have a couple of friends like that or if i tell them anything really interesting i know so and so and you're like oh. This is amazing. I think it's good to have this type of people in your life are like not only rooting for you. They're not they're jealous. There's no comparison. There's just simply like yes you should do that. Let's figure it out. Absolutely i'm here to cheer you on and not tear you down yeah if you were to leave behind any gold nugget of wisdom or inspiration if you are leaving you wanted to leave something on it for the next gen. What would it be. It would be to truly sore your feet after leave the ground and just go out there and do it. You're you're going to fail forward. Don't be so don't let so much fear of other people's opinions and failure and what might happen. Stop you from doing something because to get to the great. You have to give up the good and there's gonna struggle but you'll get there. I feel like there's messages for me. On certain days isn't as you said that i was like oh i got it like i needed to hear this today today today and i think that that's that's really beautiful. Give up the good to go after the great and it's like life motto. Yeah i love it. Thank thank you for being here and for sharing gold and your story. It's a beautiful story. Thank you thank you as much. Thank you so much for joining us today. I love how deep ashley sleep with me and talking about the importance of communication and conflict is many times door. You need to enter to take your relationship from good to great you can find ashley on instagram at ashley ashley underscore callan as always. Please subscribe to this podcast. Leave review and don't forget to share with your friends. Go listeners. Please don't forget to sign up for your thirty day live v._i._p. V._i._p. Experience at love is viral dot com code gold v._i._p. 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Peter King on Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady in Tampa, the Jamal Adams Trade, and the COVID-19 Season | The Ringers NFL Show

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Peter King on Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady in Tampa, the Jamal Adams Trade, and the COVID-19 Season | The Ringers NFL Show

"During NFL show part of the PODCAST. Now, I'm Kevin Clark. Before we started saying want to draw your attention to the fact that our show is made it onto spotify, top charmless collection of spotify, most popular podcast. Thank you guys because it turns out that you like listening to our show and all of our guests talk about football. Thanks to everyone for listening to this show and feel free to check out the other shows on the top charts by going to the podcast on spotify. There's a couple of other ringer shows made the list as well. Okay. Say Show we have Peter King NBC sports, get to it. Incredible interview touch on a variety of topics from the covert offseason to Jamal Adams to Aaron Rodgers Tom Brady. Okay. Peter King NBC sports. We just met Chuck Your Dog, which is the highlight so far from me of training camp, how are you Peter? I've been doing great Kevin. How about you? I'm? Okay I. mean this is the strangest training camp that I've ever been a part of probably that you've ever been a part of. Normally. We see each other on the road in Buffalo Minnesota or something like that. That won't be happening this year I want to start. With the last week Peter. Because we saw the Marlins Susan. Baseball, and there was a report this morning from Jeff Passan that the Phillies of essentially press pause on their workouts because of a positive test. How closely because the NFL is not going to have a bubble? How closely do you think NFL executives are looking at baseball with a little bit of? Sinking. Feeling in their stomach and saying, maybe this is something that might happen. NFL Season Peter. Well very close Kevin except I think as of now. Before all information has been gathered. It appears as though there's a good chance that this was a knucklehead situation by Marlins right and that this just wasn't some little accidental. You caught it from clubhouse attendant in Philadelphia. We don't know yet obviously, but if the MARLINS did go out and mass in Atlanta to a bar to a club to arrest for on. That's clearly going to be verboten by the NFL, not to say that it won't happen. But I. think that you know somebody from the NFL said, one of general managers said to me said, listen so far from what we've seen. This is one group from one team. And? Look I, think. The cautionary tale with the NFL to me. Is Andrew Whitworth of the Rams I was GONNA. Bring that up you spoke to him for he nine out of nine members of his family. Got It. You spoke to him for a story two weeks ago, he basically said. He his comments, kind of lead you to be a little bit dubious of the season. So it t tell us look I still am dubious. you know. Brian. Gumbel. Asked me on real sports. What I thought. The chances were of the NFL starting and finishing the season. I said before out of ten. You know on in the way given time. Yeah. Because I mean think about it, it's two hundred, sixty, nine games over five months. And from what everybody is a? There is going to be a second wave at a look. It doesn't look like the first way is over yet. You know and. And and I know that from my perspective in trying to convince NBC The let me go to three training camps this year. The hoops I know I've had to jump through to to just go out in the world being very confident. Look I'm a sixty three year. Old Guy. I don't have any health conditions of. There's nothing wrong with me, but in a lot more, people would be more concerned about me than I. am about me because I live in Brooklyn. I've been wearing a mask every day since probably March twentieth or somewhere around there it sits. I live in an apartment in Brooklyn. It sits by my front door. I put it on every time I go out to walk Chuck or go out with my wife or to do anything and. To say we do anything is a pretty gross exaggeration. We don't do anything. But I think that. Many players in the NFL have talked about this coaches if talked about this. Players in the NFL just have to be smart and Kevin you know it just it's an exclamation point on this my first column back. After being on vacation I, got a tour, the Minnesota Vikings training facility in Egan Minnesota. Eric Sugarman the trainer in the guy who the NFL Kinda holds out as a paragon of how to do things right in this infection control business. You know he's got Cova. and. So it's going to be difficult to get through the season, but I do think. There may be evidence that the MARLINS are one off. Yeah, and I think it's interesting I thought when I read your column about. MINNESOTA. It was a great column and what stuck out to me when Eric sugarman was diagnosed. Cova? Is that the Vikings not only everything? Right? But they have the facility, they have such a huge facility. You can socially distance there i. mean it is. They are seem like the perfect team to I guess. Control. Everything, and now the Eric Sugarman is being diagnosed. I I, guess, right? It's a, it's an exclamation point on just. How widespread this can be from a competitive standpoint, Peter? You've written that this is. This could be a quote. Wholly unfair season When you talk about some people being in the stands in some cities and no crowds and others, or if four linebackers get knocked out of a game when it's a big divisional week and Philip rivers spot the point what happens if on Monday a quarterback test positive, you know what? A and the Super Bowl what is the Protocol Darren who determines that, and is there a gray area and that sort of thing when you think about how? How this season will be played on the field What stands out to you is something we're talking about enough what something as simple as you know, the fact that there's been so many virtual off seasons. No. On stuff that veterans might have an advantage, this year or players who learn differently might have an advantage of this year or teams with more adapter, whatever when you think about the way, the game will look this year because of the last seven, eight months what stands out Peter. Well. I think two things. Number One, just the fact that there's not going to be much practice. Really. and there's not going to be I. mean first of all the entire, the the New Orleans Saints. They very well could be my pick to make the super bowl, the NFC, and when they gathered, it's week. It's the first time. Anybody will ever had any sort of football meeting practice preparation, anything since January. That is a totally absurd compared to what football team always is. The you know the saints would have got together starting around, I, think April thirteenth to twentieth. And they would have gone through normal off season program. So. That is going to be really unusual to see how teams adjust and adapt. And sort of as a part that. I think it just means that normally in a given year, we always say that, hey, you know because I think it's now been twenty years in a row. At least four new teams have made the playoffs every year. I. I mean a front office guy told me a couple of weeks ago. He said. This is the kind the year where the Detroit lions are going to be lifting the Lombardi trophy at the end of the year. Has Maybe, they were healthiest and he said, I only use the lions. As an example could be anybody could be the browns it could be, but there are going to be some teams. I will not be surprised Kevin. If some team plays a twelve game season, a number of fourteen game season, and that leads me to the second part of this that I think. Is really important about this year. Low Guy, love football. You love football. We Love Sundays in the fall. I chuckle I, slash chuckle get outraged when people say you don't WanNa. See Football you WANNA see. Kovic. Takeover cancel the season and just say well, we're kind of not are you but the one thing about sort of the way this year is going to be. And Look I know that Roger Goodell is about as popular is spoiled milk to a lot of NFL fans but. I think this is the year that Roger Goodell needs to be given the power to do what's in the best interest the game week by week by week and If four offensive lineman starting offensive lineman for the Minnesota Vikings test positive. On Thursday one week, Roger Goodell should have the ability. To say that their game against the bears on Sunday is postponed. Should. This is an absolutely abnormal years ivory. You're right. It's a wholly unfair year, but there needs to be some common sense. know power given to the Commissioner of the NFL, to make sure that for this season. They're going to be some rules imposed that in a normal season would never be imposed. Some other non cove stuff before we get that, you know I I've had conversation with people and wanted to make things that comes up is maybe they're sixteen games. There was a full playoffs, but maybe there's an you talked to. Maybe there's a week eighteen and nineteen, and maybe there are two weeks spans where a team can't play. What do you think the chances are that? The Super Bowl happens on the date that is currently scheduled early February. Dubious. But I mean, it's not impossible. But I UNDO BS because look the NFL has built into their schedule. And of the facility in Tampa has built in that, they could basically play any Sunday in February right weather. Wise. weatherwise, it wouldn't be a problem is four Sundays in February. They could play any one of those. They want it now. I do think that if Florida continues to be on fire and it gets to be, let's just say October I. I definitely figure the NFL is going to start thinking of alternatives. I'm sure they're figured of alternatives. You know. Right now. You know Goodell is very fond of saying internally, that hope is not a strategy so. He looks at Florida right now and the absolute bungle way. Rhonda Santa's handle Cova. In tried to basically go to the Donald Trump School of covert, which is just so odd for a guy who went to Yale. And graduated from Yale. You know are really really bright guy evidently. Oh, I think I'll just pretend this doesn't exist. To get a lot of good comments, your podcast. Kevin. But anyway. So. You know if if two months from now. There are still if Florida's on fire. The NFL's can at least start considering what would be an alternative I? Think the last thing the NFL would want any year like this. Maybe not the last leg, but one thing they don't want. They don't want to fan list Super Bowl, right? They don't want to sue. But would know fans there. So you know we'll see but That's why I, think everybody just has to take a deep breath and say we have no idea what this year going to bring and don't get too excited. I got in a big argument a couple of weeks ago with Chris Russo on his show. about he's saying, it would be really competitively unfair. If the Eagles could have fans bear game twenty, thousand in the giants can't I said that is about nine, hundred, forty third on the list of unfair things. The I said, you think that anybody in the NFL. Is going to say if you can have fans come to your games and you can bring in some revenue because of that, don't do it I'd think so. Yeah, I mean. There's such a long list of concerns that that. So many things about mattering I, WanNa talk about the tomorrow Adam. Straight because you talk to John Schneider. You talked to Pete Carroll over the past week. It seems to me You know there are exceptions to this Gender. Hopkins being one of them, but it seems to me that first round picks are now the default cost doing business to get a superstar. NFL having talked to John Schneider haven't talked to Pete. Carroll? You believe in the seahawks plan versus the jets plan who won this trade? Well. I'll say something that I never thought I would say you asked me to name the team that I thought made out better I think. Seattle, nate out better. In part of that honestly Kevin is that I think you have to look at. Seattle surrendered first and third round picks in twenty twenty one. Yep. and. Then obviously, a first round pick in twenty, twenty, two. Well, I guess I would ask you because I. I don't think any of us know we can just guess but. I don't know what the draft is. GonNa be next year, and let's just assume for the sake of argument that the seahawks will be picking twenty fifth. It. You know in the first round twenty fifth in the in the third round. So what that means essentially is that this year you have lost the twenty fifth and Say Ninety S. Eighty nine picks in this year's draft in the next year's one. Well. What if let's say for the sake of argument? Twenty potential first round draft choices in. College. Football. Opt Out of playing college football this year. And you have to judge your players that you're gonNA draft twenty, twenty, one on what you know about all of these guys so far. You saw there was a Virginia Tech, Corn Donahue, any of these guys are. Potential top top to round pick. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He He said, I'm not I'm opting out. I'M NOT GONNA play this year and I'm sure as you know there's going to be a lot of people I would say. We're going to opt out of this, but the only reason I bring that up is that if you're John. Schneider. And, your last few high draft choices I documented. It in my column, they've Ed five. Top forty, five picks since two, thousand, fourteen, and not one of them is a prominent player on the current team. So if you have to say that we've got a really good scouting system and we've got a good mechanism for picking choirs and still we come up with an look Rashad Penny, might end up being a great NFL player. He hasn't been so far. You know he's been heard and all that I get it, but what I'm saying is. If you're John Schneider never in a million years as long as Russell Wilson is your quarterback. You're never pick sixth breath. You never. So why not use a guy? Who is the legitimate six pick in the draft? He's perform better than that. And trade that draft, Budi. Up, and basically get that guy especially when you have to worry about what next year is going to be anyway. So. If I were John, Schneider, that's one of the reasons why I think in this case, a burden hand is really worth it. Now, for the jets I get why they did this. But. At some point jets a finished last in their division. Three of the last four years. You're probably GONNA finish last this year at some point, you gotTa stop winning trades in start winning games. And the jets just have not done that. So you know if this trade becomes the bedrock backbone of a consistent playoff team over the next three or four years. I, tip my cap to Joe Douglas, but let's see it I. Yeah. I've I've changed my opinion over the past couple of years about these sorts of trades, not necessarily this one. But in general where I used to reflexively think that anyone who got a first round pick or two first round picks made out like bandits. I. Remember when Amari Cooper was traded. I said Oh, Gosh. That the raiders just that they might as well done that with a gun in a mask, right and mark turn out to have unlocked Dak Prescott in that season in a way that I didn't anticipate and I've come around on the idea that that getting first round. Round picks not the be all end all of running the football team. I think that the jets did well, I also think that so many things they've done had been at odds with other things they've done. Remember they have Sam Darnold and they should maximize rookie contract window. But on the other hand, they've done such a poor job of that. Already at some point, you just have to to change your strategy midstream. So it's it's interesting move for both teams and I think that in some ways both teams probably got better from it, I wanNA talk about Aaron, Rodgers really quickly. So he said this week on a on spotify podcast that he essentially. Is aware that the team will probably move on from him sooner rather than later He he described draft night and the Jordan love pick and none of this necessarily is a huge shock. You had talked about how the fact that he was unhappy pretty quickly after the draft in April Peter How does that play out this year and if you were to put an expiration date on Rogers and Green Bay, what is your over under? Well. Kevin as much as I really do like Brian Good. Accounts. because I think that. He believes in the Ron Woolfe School of General. Managing, which is you always have to be prepared a quarterback. That's number one number two. You're going to be a very unpopular person at times. Ron. woolfe was at times when he was the GM Ted Thompson was even with Mike, McCarthy and he was unpopular as well. At times With the Brian Gouda philosophy in this draft. I I'm not, GONNA. Kill him for taking Jordan. Love I. I'M NOT GONNA kill him. But what I am going to do is I am going to be very critical of him for ignoring the wide receiver position and in basically relying. On a bunch of Equa. NIMIA saint. Browns. And and and guys who might might become you know the the the book into. Davante Adams Bud i. just when you have Aaron, Rodgers is your quarterback. And you don't give him the weaponry. that. Almost every other good team in the NFL has on offense. That's GONNA rise up and bite you. It just is, and so I feel for Rogers, in this way. And again look, I do not think that it was a dumb decision necessarily. to take Jordan love do think in the second round, he had to move around. He had to spend some draft capital. They had to go get. He told me weekend of the draft. There were two receivers with their late pick in the second round that they were They were located at both who got picked. So that I I'm sorry. That's not good enough. You gotta go get one of those guys you gotTa, make sure that you get one of those guys in my opinion now as far as his expiration date. I believe that if he keeps playing well, if he plays top five in the NFL over the next three years that. I bet the packers would look to do. With with love what the Patriots did with. Garoppolo? Is it likely? No. But. Aaron Rodgers and. And mettler control that in their own hands and in Aaron. Rodgers right are. Yeah. It's. It's now after this week, I would say one of more fascinating Onfield Dramas I. Guess if you can classified ads on field, but it is a football story, it'll happen in two thousand, twenty speaking of quarterbacks and subplots. The Tom Brady thing in Tampa. Me is so different than it was in. March, when we sign when he signed there, it felt like you can hit the. The Ground Rodney's got Bruce Arians to get all these weapons when you start looking at the fact that every workout he's done so far has been on a random high school field in Tampa or you know it's kind of makeshift. He hasn't been in the building in any meaningful way I. He is so into continuity and he loves knowing where everything is in the building. That's. The the the Patriots Organization remember one of the executives one wondering they didn't go away from training camp is they just love the fact that there's just so much continuity in the building and nothing ever changes and all that stuff and a guy values chemistry like that. Do you think there's there's an ability for Tom Brady to hit the ground running and Tampa this year and way we thought or is it? It going to take a little bit longer, or as you said, it's going to be such a chaotic season that just a pure talent might went out over all of the things that brady typically values like continuity I. Think it's going to be really hard for him. The ground running being basically Josh. mcdaniels and again look I'm not in their meeting rooms I don't know, but I've always got the impression. That Josh mcdaniels. Solve so many problems during the week for Tom Brady especially. In the talent gap years, you know like last year, how much greener they started eight. Now I have no idea and they were so much more in my opinion, you know look I. was crazy as it is. In Games played after Halloween last year, the dolphins had a better record than the Patriots. And you know and I think that is more of what the Patriots were. They were about five hundred, maybe a nine seven talented team that won more games than that because they have an all time quarterback in an all time coach. but they still had so many holes. And honestly I think mcdaniels over the years has done a really good job of filling those holes in solving those problems before they get to be huge problems now. Look. I think we're really going to find out a lot about Byron left which this year because Bruce. Arians. Really has empowered Byron left which to work with Tom Brady. And we're going to see. You know basically, if Byron left, which is rare for prime time quite honestly, and I look I think their plan with James Winston was great. and. I, think they coach him well in training camp. But. At at at one point, the guy is going to go out and play and Jameis Winston was. Just made too many mistakes. And as far as I think, Brady, is going to be drooling at the talent that he that he has to play with. Tight end position in his wide receiver position. I. Don't know any team in the NFL and I will include the chiefs with this. The depth at tight end in wide receiver. I mean I would take the chiefs over Tampa. Bay. But just in terms of pure numbers. Look at the tight end position you know on Tampa Bay and upgraded is and they've got two of the fifteen best wide receivers in football two and a little bit of depth there. So. I think Brady play well, but I do think it's going to take some time for them to come together. We'll get you out of here in a second. I WanNa, I wanNA talk briefly about the team aspect of all of this because the CAP. Going down or at least smoothing over the next four years, it's usually important in. God I. Having massive contracts on your books right now, unless they are, you know Patrick Mahomes S. contracts that are absolutely worth. It can be a harrowing experience when you talk to people around the League, I talked to who are still grappling with this. But what do you think the biggest difference? Next couple of years with building will be because we are going to get the caps bikes like we were expecting. Well I. think that Free Agency is really going to be more like it was in twenty twenty. which everybody looked at as it was almost a recession in the NFL, this past March. I mean von Bell three years, eighteen million. There's a great example of. A. Good. Young, whatever He is twenty five year. Old Safety who can really be You know when Earl Thomas, type quarterback back there and he gets no action whatsoever and he looking back at it. Now, he's lucky that he got six million a year in Cincinnati. Believe me I'm not I'm not saying Oh g six, million, it's nothing but. The inflation in salaries that you'd normally get I. Don't think you're gonNA get now Kevin until the new of television contracts kick in, and that's either two or three years away. Otherwise, I. Think this next year is going to be a very disappointing ear for a lot of players and also consider that all the players who have opted out. The hidden story in the opt-outs is. What happens if so the Patriots took two linebackers. And what happens if both those guys play really well and I don't I have no idea what will happen, but they could both play seven hundred snaps in both play really well, and maybe bill. Belichick. Will say love you, Donna hightower. But will do well with these guys because we gotta manage the Cap and what will you do with Patrick Chung? Coming back will Patrick Chung, comeback. Will make solar come back to the giants. So there's all of these questions that we don't know the answers to right now. But I do believe are going to contribute to. Sort of. As. I say a recession in free agency and in player salaries at least for a twenty, twenty one. Contract Prescott's because I think Dak Prescott playing appropriately except the time that he's trying to reach free Asia, the whole thing. This is going to be difficult for Prescott. Because if it, I forget what his number is next year like thirty, seven, million or something like that. It's a huge. Attack Second. Time. Yeah if they tag the second time, so let's say it's thirty seven, million. I'd have to figure it out because I believe the cap probably will be one, seventy, five. It'll be what the floor you know what the NFL in the NFL PA negotiated so now. You basically, look. At. His. Salary. And you say, my Gosh, his salary is about twenty two percent and I'm just did that roughly in my head. I'm probably wrong. But it's like twenty two percent of a salary cap on a team with a bunch of big contracts on tons, and so it's almost incumbent. And Look I'm not I'm not telling, Dak Prescott. What to do we get you know kirk cousins is made more money than any player in football over the last four or five years. So Dak. Chris got. I. Think Normally, I would say, Hey, just go ahead and do that. Here's why I wouldn't do it now. Because Tom Brady a couple of Times said to Scott Paoli Bill, belichick listen I'll take less money, but you got a guarantee, you're gonNA spend the money that you save with me on players to make us better. The Patriots always did that. My feeling is that if Dak Prescott doesn't do that next year, if he just takes the Max for himself, which he has every right to do. But if he does it, he has to understand that he will not have as good a team around him. As he could have, if he did, let's say a long term contract with a first near cap number of all invented twenty million bucks. And that to me would be the best help that he could be for the cowboys being good for a long time. Now, he might not be concerned with that and hey, it's not his job to be concerned with it. For All I'm saying is if he wants to cowboys to be the best team, he's going to have to be reasonable and what he takes next year my only thought is. Is that the cowboys need to keep dot. Prescott around and figure out how to do that. If he doesn't want to take the I think you reckon with, he doesn't want to discuss because not having. Dak. Prescott and going to draft again, freight is trying to find a quarterback is just is not something the cowboys should want to deal with. Here's my question. So what would be unreasonable approach? Thing like get together with him during the season this year lay this out when it looks like you know what the situation is going to. talked to him and todd. France. Have meeting maybe during the bye week I, don't know what what you do. So first of all, I. Think you throw it. The mahomes deal I, think that the mahomes deal is its own thing. It's five, hundred, three, million dollars I think you knew you try to negotiate off the Russell Wilson Jared, Goff deals and those those are all at this point in the low to mid Thirties I. Think you listen Dak Prescott clearly values short contracts in the same way. Kirk cousins, kirk cousins gave everybody a blueprint DAK prescott better than kirk cousins. Cousins, but Kirk cousins and Mike McCartney. Gave Guy gave the blueprint franchise tags, short contracts all that stuff, and I, know the cowboys like giving these long contracts and Ozeki Elliott signed through twenty twenty-five or whatever it is twenty, twenty six but I I think that at some point you say we have to let this playbook play out and we have to give Dak Prescott the type of flexibility he wants because I remember talking to Thomas to off about about the Matt Ryan negotiations. We basically said he he gave him thirty million because at some point you're you're haggling over. A couple hundred thousand dollars or whatever it is that thirty million, you're saying, what are we doing here because the what happens when you don't have that franchise quarterback is palpable throughout the building that's drop told me and that you everybody is just searching for it. There's a sense of desperation in a building where there's not a franchise quarterback and I think Dak. Prescott. Is that type of guy where if he leaves the franchise at least temporarily would be in disarray and I think you have to pay for that. Yeah, I agree you've got to figure a way to make it happen. There's almost been this This. And I know that that covering the NFL is now a twelve month a year venture obviously. But. I don't remember any contract story in my. Thirty six years of covering the NFL that had as much. MANIACAL fervor about it. Than Dak Prescott and and I've always figured and I still figure to this day. That he and the cowboys will figure it. And again, you know what? Else a? Kevin is really interesting about Prescott in the cowboys and I don't know how many people think of it that way, but I, certainly do. You know it's different being the quarterback of the Dallas cowboys than it is being the quarterback of the Carolina. Panthers. Yeah you know. And he could certainly go somewhere in make an awful lot of money. But is he going to be doing the and I forget what commercials see does but? I mean he's in the top five in the NFL in commercials. Are you in the top five in the NFL in commercials if you're playing for the Vikings, I mean that that's that's that's the whole thing. I'm seeing chunky campbell soup commercials seeing mattress commercials seen a lot of commercials here. Insurance ads, I'm seeing a lot of these. Yes. Yogurt. Absolutely. How could I forget? Last thing. Peter when I was twenty two years old I, met you at starbucks and notice myself well, before NFL reporter. Do you remember that and did you think I was a psychopath? If you did no, where was this? Where did this happen? Tell me it was it was on the east side of New York as I think it was on fifty third street at a starbucks and you on your laptop and I was such a huge fan. I went up introduced myself and we talked for maybe five minutes and you were incredibly nice to me. Well, I feel terrible in saying this I, don't remember it. But that's why. I was such a sportswriter. Dork that there's a number of people were that was true of including famously Bill Simmons I went up to. Seventeen years old and hotel lobby at the super. Bowl. Myself, he doesn't remember all. He's he's audio. Only thing he said was, was it pleasant I very, very pleasant and the same is true of you, Peter. Well. Thanks. You know the the interesting thing about this. This job is we all had people in our lives who we met early on, you know in our business and you either you know the name studs, Terkel Jeff corks ever heard of him. Yeah. Yes. That's Turco was this great writer out of Chicago and he wrote a book one time called. I was a student at Ohio. University. And I remember I. I love working because what studs terkel did is he spent a year and he went around the city of Chicago and he spent one day with, let's say, forty people who were just doing their jobs and he described it. My Senior Project Ohio University, was I called it four, five, seven, zero one. That's Zip Code Athens. Ohio were Ohio. University was anti spent one day with ten different people as an Al-Majd studs terkel, but the story is. I called studs. Terkel. I. Think he worked for the Chicago Sun Times I call them one day and I asked him. I was very nervous and I asked him. Would you be willing to do the forward for my a little project? Any basically said kid I don't have time for that. We'd luck to you. And I was crushed, and at that moment I said on never do that again. Wow, never talked to anybody and you know I probably have, but I try not to anyway. Big. Time to you, Peter, he did. Yeah. I, the studs terkel beside from knowing what the book is. He was on the daily show and like two thousand and two, and I remember him saying you remember him saying that the reporting led him to realize that everybody just wants to get through the day which I found to be a very profoundly. And we all you know what? Don't we all just want to get through this crap. Yeah. Really do I mean I'm sitting in my apartment in Brooklyn Right now and? I mean I've been here all but seven days since March fourteenth. And you know I, mean I I watched the Tampa Bay buccaneers draft on this laptop. You know in round one. You know, and that's how I covered the draft. That's how I was incited drafter but and all that. Hey, it's cool. What you can do you know with technology, but you want to do it. No. You know you want to get back out, they were actually experience life. So we can do that pretty soon. Do you know or can you say you're comfortable saying which teams are going to visitor? Well, I. Mean I'm trying to arrange going to Tampa and I'm trying to arrange going to Kansas City. And maybe one other one. But I kind of you know the other thing is Kevin usually. I'll go to like twenty and I'll are making this big list but. This. Year I, Kinda WANNA see. What if one team has fifteen positives? Go there you know, and either from the outside, just trade appear in to see how it's going. But I I don't know to me I think I'd really like to see Tom. Brady's throwing a football dressed in orange or fire engine red on a ninety, six degrees, Tampa afternoon i. think that would be good. Peter King. Thank you for joining us. Thanks a lot for having me. I love your work. Thank you so much?

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"We either game plan for protection. State farm agents are here to help with personalized service. Agents are available to talk in person over tax at the state farm APP so go with the one with coverage virtue and agents. You can count on finding agent in your neighborhood today. State farm talk to an ancient sect Welcome to the ring. A Bell Show Robert Mays joint as always by Kevin Costner. I just witnessed one of the most completely in the context of what was most completely ridiculous last few minutes football game. I've seen at one time in the context of the division being on the line the by being on the line for the San Francisco Forty niners like for that game to come down to that situation. Shen was it was so funny. Because you're sitting there and it's like all right well the niners have this and then the seahawks start driving and then they get down the two yard line. It's like Oh this is over because there was a moment whereas all right now it's fourth down the niners. Did it like they. They got the stuff. Whatever then the seahawks get the first down? What are the seahawks are going to win this game? And they don't win the game. It was just a level as you have tweeted many times. The seahawks cannot play a normal football game and this is a perfect example of that I was thinking about that a little bit today when watching the game and I was thinking that it's not just true from game by game basis. It's is also true from a play by play basis. It really is the seahawks. Don't do normal plays like it's always Russell Wilson drops back. The pocket is a good example pocket. Oh collapse he'll just see a whole hill sprint straightforward and. Then he'll like do a jump pass or something that's Kinda you kinda see that more than than you like. Entire Franchises have seasons where they don't do a play like that and Russell Wilson will do like three per drive. It's just nothing happens normally in Seattle. I don't i. There's a lot of reasons for that but it was This is this is just proof that there will never be a normal thing ever again in the history of the seahawks. So it's we say this is a joke but I actually do want to kind of break. Take down that idea. Because they're point differential. I believe coming into the game was plus twelve negative. It was negative one Midway through the game so if that team had gotten the one that division whatever with the season that it's been in the NFC bit it kind of like really like this team is going to get the buy it and I think that we've had this. They wouldn't they wouldn't have gotten the by. They wouldn't have well. They would've they would've wanted so it would have been Green Bay and New Orleans. Yes but it's we've I think we've said this is a joke but I do think it's something think that's worth evaluating. Because they've won all these close games and as we've talked about the Lamar Jackson. Russell Wilson thing over the course of the season season and how the Seahawks don't put Russell Wilson the best possible situation. I think that's an extension of this because they don't like this team has gotten by by the skin of their teeth in a lot of very close games. I think they're dangerous but I don't know how good they are. Does that make sense. Yeah no I understand what you mean. I understand that the point differential is important and that it is yeah. I was actually looking at that this weekend. You know they're not a whole lot of teams that didn't have a good point differential that had success in the playoffs deep in the playoffs in the I don't know last four or five six years Obviously is going to be exceptions to the Denver Super Bowl team. That won the second Peyton Manning Super Bowl That that was they didn't have an elite point differential differential. There are some exceptions but to an elite defense though truly elite chief. Of course it's different. That was a little bit different And and but you know if you play the the Panthers Broncos Game Ten Times I think the panthers probably win eight of those anyway. But let's I think that's fair. I think it's like Elise Santa Look into that but let's not relitigate the twenty fifteen super bowl. No you don't have the hoping to in that after week. Seventeen but when you when you have somebody like Russell Wilson things happen. I know that most things are explained by statistics and point differential chill and analytics. And certainly we believe in all those things but Russell Wilson makes things happen. So Wilson rises above his scheme. He rises above oftentimes the players around around him despite having More talented than the last couple of years this year. But you know I I just think that. There's there's a case to be made the Russell Wilson can can make Things that shouldn't happen happen and that's from play to play from game to game minutes from season to season so I would not. Despite everything I would not have been shocked. They won in this game because by the way there were one yard away from an or half a yard at one point a were eight incredible. Stop Away It was that was just awesome. Game was awesome performance. Everybody I I I wish there was a way for both these teams Take it home playoff game. I tend to agree with you. But all right so we're looking at the. NFC plath picture the a picture in general if you were playing in the divisional round because you know one of the matters the by would you rather face the forty dollars the seahawks. I'd rather face the seahawks I think so too. Are we talking about like I mean. Obviously you'd face them on the road and all that stuff uh-huh neutral field. I'm not saying have been a vacuum cleaner in the outback bowl. I would rather yes. I'd rather faces the Seattle seahawks. I think the niners are really freaking. Good ain't tonight on the Super Bowl so I think the niners are really good too. You and I think that the reason I believe in the niners has shifted over the course of the season because there was a point halfway through the year. And there've but a lot of smart people who've done studies on this in the sense that you know defense and defensive. Statistics are often based on the offenses. You face you know the quarterback's backseat face. Everything else. I think that's proven out over the course of the last few years and over the first half the season shitty defenses in their defense looked great and then over the second half of this season. They've won all these high scoring games. And that's why I think they're so dangerous in the sense that they been able to kind of evolve off into a different sort of team by the end of the year. I think the scariest part about the niner's right now is the fact that they have Kyle Shanahan and a lot of really the interesting skill position players on offense. Is that wrong no not at all but we hope that was. It's funny because that was probably the preseason conventional wisdom right Kyle Shanahan the forty niners flat circle and so they were turned to we love. Kyle Shanahan the scheme Lord and and that all makes sense and they still have talent on defense. It's just they need to get healthy on the defensive line to be as good as they could possibly be. Someone like D Ford has to come back. They obviously invested significantly in that. And so I think that there are this team that we saw tonight can get better once. The Pass. Rush gets healthy I I don't know deal with Jimmy Ward. But you know they've they've been really banged up on Defense Defoe Lord. I mean yeah there are a lot of guys back for sure. Yeah but I think I think this team is currently constructed can win the NFC. They don't. I'm not this is not kind of Houston Texans type thing whereas while they really have to get. Jj Watt back or whatever in order for them to to be a contender and this is the number one seed in the in the NFC. And I think that they are bear. I duNno I mean they're the best. There's a reason that the number one they beat the saints. It's in New Orleans. I this is a kind of classic at this is kind of a classic and of Balanced Football Team that we actually actually in an era. You and I have talked about this million times in an era where if you have one elite unit you can compete in this league There are some some balanced teams. All right so you say. They're the best team in the NFC. They have a very good chance to win the NFC if you had to put some fake money down right now on an NFC team who would you bet on the forty niners. Do you think they're the best team in the NFC as curly constructed in this moment You I've events question three times. Yeah I guess yes I'll see I don't okay A.. Using its New Orleans saints. I think it's new own incense okay. So but here's the thing is there's a there's a chicken and egg thing here right like we're not playing the outback bowl. Right you were playing. I was GONNA go to San Francisco and yet but New Orleans has to play an extra game now. They don't get the rest they don't get I know I know with the rose tougher I know right and I think that there's an amazing you know. One of the lessons of the Eagles in a weird way I was how significantly. They changed what they did during the bye week. Number that with John defrancisco Reich and Doug Peterson and all these guys. We heard so much about it before they started their run essentially treated at like a second training camp. They install all this stuff. And and nobody's change in quarterback era. So it's not that deep but what I am I'm saying is is that you can take that week off and you can do a lot of different stuff with it and I think that's important and I think that that's the not only the the health part of it But just resetting the batteries a little bitter important and then again I can't do. I can't separate. I think that the Sunday night I football had this stat about the last six super bowls had teams with the by. Well I mean also the last sixty had really good teams and those that's about you cannot separate the the talent they get so by from the fact that Ed by these if the if the Patriots or or the Twenty Fifteen Carolina Panthers had took the succeed and had to play their games on the road. They'd still probably Super Bowl. I that's that's sort of how this works is the good good teams make the Super Bowl and good teams happened to get the buy so i. It's hard for me to divorce. Those two things having said that I do think the fact that the saints. We'll go into to San Francisco if they get. That far is important. We've had that discussion on the show before about how you typically teams with the one or two seat of Gone Super Bowl but those are is because they're the best teams and the Saints League. Play it outright. So the three seed in the NFC so if they beat the succeed exceed who are who wants to be the vikings which is not easy either. The Vikings are playing particularly. Well they will likely go to Green Bay. Who would you pick in that game? It's absolutely absolutely the saints right now. Right it is absolutely the saints right now. So they if they beat Green Bay in Green Bay then they go to San Francisco and the niners obviously have the advantage. Is You're playing at home. But I do think a lot of the teams with the by the teams with the number one seed have gone to the Super Bowl is those are the best teams and I just think the NFC is so stacked right now at the top that even if the saints have the three seed as a look at these teams. And I love the niners we both do do. But I still think that at this moment with breeze coming back being fresh and is the level of health they have top to bottom. I think they're the most those dangerous team no matter where they have to play I understand that I think that you know. Listen I it. Let's let's not do a drew brees outdoors discussion here but it doesn't matter where he's fucking playing right now. I think I just joined the. The gerbils is a really good quarterback and I think that if they had the one seed I'd probably pick them make the super bowl Because I think that they are pretty much unbeatable in the Dome unless unless Nicole Roby Komen assaults a a a wide receiver. I'm here at that game last year. I think back on like the way the League played out what I kinda wish I had been there. Even though the game last year it was amazing. Very strange it was very strange game to be at because everything as you probably know if you go to a a big saints game is the energy before the game is in Kratz Clinton walking around the blocks around the stadium. It's it's unlike anything in football and when I got out of the game which I said no ninety minutes two hours. After the final whistle everything cleared out. Everything and I remember there. There was I was really hungry. And as a Jimmy Johns may be four or five blocks down the street and and I I went in and got a sandwich and there was nobody in there and this is like nick. I've seen I kind of did that. Weird like like end of La La land type thing spoiler alert where you're like. Wow what would this be like. What would the street be like? Get The saints game like especially to sit not even seeing that. Sometimes you're not being. You're like rolling in your head like wow like district will be completely filled with people I would not be at the Shimmy Johns. I would be elsewhere like David. I would probably not even have gone out. You know you've been able to walk down the street. I go tubing crazy but the far from where things are very hectic lead at night New Orleans it's craziness right and what I'm saying is that there was no-one no one on the street in the crazy parts Where where you know? Things are going twenty four seven there was. Everyone was just like you know what we're done. We're going to be done now. We're done I was. I was watching the game with. I'm trying to think of who was all there. It was me. Jeff Darlington Gregg. Bishop they should maybe for sports illustrated. We were all because in in Kansas City. They have a really long a big area. The the back of where everyone sits in the press box even watching watching it was strange but anyway so okay. I think we're on the same page. WHO's the best teams in the WHO are the best teams in the NFC? So let's have a very brief seahawks the hawks discussion before we move on here so I think both of us believe that Russell Wilson was probably the second most valuable player in the NFL this year and that the the seahawks really relied on him to be where they were the seahawks finish eleven and five. They had a very nice season but they played a lot of one score games. They they had a lot of things go their way. I made the seahawks make the Super Bowl. I don't think they do but let's say they lose in the divisional round. Whatever what do you how do you feel about where the seahawks franchise sits right? Now you try and get yourself in trouble again. I'm really not I'm really not I'm GonNa make you do it in order to not get myself the next. I've been extremely insist on this Russell. Wilson is good enough off to make a franchise better full stop do they have I. Should the franchise be better. That is my question to you. Well Okay so you look at it right now they have Gay guys like Decay Mac. After they hit on they still have a defensive core that I think is pretty good they still have Abu Wagner. They still have the kids. You're right was making plays tonight. I think they've still got Shaquille. Griffin's a really nice player yeah there there are pieces there should should they be better as a franchise should everybody better is a franchise. I mean. Shouldn't that if the dolphins today if you have Russell Wilson shouldn't you be better shouldn't you shouldn't if if you have a second best player in the League shouldn't you have a team that could be the best team in the NFC and not somebody. That's a scrape by that's my I mean. I think they're in a different cycle. I mean part of the why you made the mistake. Part of the mistake fit that you made before this season was you thought that the downcycle of the seahawks could was really down instead of just a little bit down right yes right they go eight. Yeah Okay and so and and so I think that the the floor on the seahawks is much better than I'm more optimistic on the floor of the Seok says and you are because Living Russell Wilson's really good could be very scenario. I'm talking about the ceiling. That's that's that's my here right right. I E Yeah I mean I mean I think that they. I think that you know like the Houston Texans. While I'm watching highlights of right now I think that they probably rely a little too much on the the heroux. Ix of of their quarterback the Texans Shimmy different scenario. But I think could they. Could they get in two years offensive head coach. Who Lights it up and makes us wonder what we're doing you in the last four or five years of Pete Carroll possibly but I do know the Carol I think for all the sticky gets? He's a really good football coach. And I think that there's the seahawks have for all of this strange games and the stage plays and Brian Schottenheimer thing. They could be significantly worse. Look at frigging Dallas. I think NCUA right and I do a Dallas really good comparison because I the P carroll offense of head coach thing Kinda where I'm going with this and I think think they're floor is extremely high and I think that what John Schneider does and moves. He's been able to make over the last five six ten years. Whatever a remarkable? I think. It's an incredibly well run franchise. I just wonder if there is something there. That's untapped based on how they're currently constructed. That's it. Ah It's not an indictment of who they are what they do all that stuff because I do think that it absolutely could be a lot worse. I just looking okay. What Russell Wilson has been this year and I look at all the cap space? They have next year. The fact that next year they're probably not gonna be in that downturn when they're rebuilding a little bit and and I just wonder what they wanna be and who the best people are to bring them there. That's it. How many games would the SEAHAWKS win with? Sean McVeigh. I don't know if he's the right guy to answer that question. I mean I urge the right guy. WHO's the guy in this scenario? Maybe the Sean mcvay. Maybe like that. Good a coach. Who has the has I kind of think the answer is twelve or thirteen games but do they win twelve or thirteen games in the way they did this year ear or did they win twelve or thirteen games and away? Yes it does okay. I mean I don't have any point. Differential does matter I mean point differential. And how you engage does matter okay I I I know what you're saying but I'm just I think that Pete Carroll winning a bunch of games for a long time I think there's some earned credit there I one hundred percent agree with you again. This is not me judging. The seahawks are trying to say they're not good or whatever it's really kind of a thought experiment about. What does this team want to be? How do they get where they want to go? And I just. I don't know if the question is answerable right now but I think the question is is Pete Carroll the guy to bring them there. Is this style the style they need to play to get there and I don't know the answer to that question. That's a man. I got a lot of friends who've England right and they used to talk about not a lot like the three. Sorry but I've talked. We know we talk a lot and so it seems like more right. They're all big soccer fans and they talk about one of them's a huge arsenal fan. And he's talked to this guy arson banger. Right and that he was talking to talking to the West who might not He was the coach for like twenty years of Arsenal and it became in the same way. Like Bobby Bowden was like this Florida. Sure there's a lot of people where they build the team into something and then everyone forgets that they were the one who were responsible. Actually Marvin Lewis. Marvin Louis is exactly what I was going to break out. So he he takes a job from either bad to good or good to great or great to elite whatever it is and then no. No one remembers that it's really easy to screw everything up. It's really really easy to screw everything up and say okay maybe Pete Carroll in the long run has underachieved but you know what I a lot. Lot Of. That might be the argument. You're making boredom saying I think in the last couple years. Okay his chat. That's all I'm saying. I don't think he's underachieving long-term at all fine but the league is changed. But there's you end up somehow. Zack Taylor or you end up with with AH accidentally hiring poisons I mean like there's there's a lot of key could there. Is there a better coach of the Seattle Seahawks then P. Carol Sure Bill Belch ex probably better coach at band. There's probably for you know five or six but this is not the situation like we talked about in Dallas where like Fifteen people could win thirteen games with them. Instead Jason Garrett can't score any points and then does know what he's doing. Well I'm sorry I phrased that he's scoring a talk of points. And they have a great point of Rancho and they suck they are one of the first teams in history I think to have over one hundred point differential and they suck before before the season started. There are two teams that I kind of put in the same category when I thought about the trajectory trajectory and the lifespan of the franchise and they were the Baltimore Ravens and the Seattle Seahawks. Because you had T- coaches that have been there for a long time a GM structure at the very least that had been there for a long time and they were teams that were reinventing themselves with those guys. Still the top and with the Ravens. John Harbaugh and Eric Decosta whatever ever the power structure involved that was a franchise that was willing to reinvent itself in an aggressive way. John Harbaugh was willing to sit back and say okay. Let's do something totally different I don't think even with Pete Carroll was that with Pekair was the head coach. I don't think that has ever we're on the table for the seahawks. I guess that's what I'm saying because I think it to have the same guy for a long time and to have that floor that we're talking talking about. I think you need to be willing to reinvent yourself. And try ambitious aggressive things within that structure and I just don't know of a p carroll is the person to do yeah I mean I understand what you're saying but I do think that part of the I remember the part of the Ravens overall. We're always actually getting a new quarterback and that's a little bit of situation but I understand quarterback though. No that's what I'm saying. I'm saying that that was the huge shift shift. They went from Joe Freaking flacco. Who through short of the sticks and needed to on first second and third down at Joe flacco Echo rate at a historic freaking rate and they went from that to Lamar Jackson who scores every time he touches the football So I listen. I don't know I. The seahawks are about to play in the playoffs. They were half yard away from winning the Division and playing a home playoff game and I. I think that's the I think it's it's kind of weird we're doing a referendum. I do say listen from Bobby Belt since one thousand nine hundred either a hundred and sixty three. NFL teams that finished the season with the point. Differential of one hundred or greater the cowboys are the only one of those one hundred sixty three teams to finish with a five hundred or worse record. Congratulations Jason Garrett. You get a nose no job I. I'm very interested to see what happens this year. And again I don't I'm not trying to do a referendum on the seahawks team. I think they're really good. I think they're really scary. It's more to me about. Shouldn't they be something different than they are. And maybe maybe they go to the freaking super bowl and and I look silly at. I think that's that's on the table. I just look at what Russell Wilson is. I look at what John Schneider has done and I think what would this be if it were a little bit different. That's it. I'm not trying to bury the seahawks here. I'm really not I I just that's kind of how thinking about it. Right now is that this is a team that's going to get the five seed in the NFC. It's going to be very hard road. They're likely not going to win a championship. And I just wonder what a couple tweaks would do to. What that franchise is is with some of the people in charge and the guy playing quarterback? I think there's a lot. More franchises could have been complaining about tonight. Like the browns sounds are the cowboys are anymore. So I think that I think that the seahawks in the very near-term are gonna be fine and I think that they were half fjord away from this being a very different conversation. They're going to go into Philly and sh- basically just due to injury. I don't think that Philly when Phileas he is just the the Burnett this Guy Burnet who they signed on Christmas Eve I mean this is. They're down to bare bones. Man Philly. I don't know half the players on the Eagles at this this point I also don't have the players in the seahawks. It's a good thing. They signed Marshall Back which is nice all right. Do you WANNA start with those teams. We should be bearing. Do Stop stopdown. I feel like that. I think we should down since since we are we inexplicably gave the entire seahawks franchises stock down. Let's get this. I was not doing that. I I don't want to come off that way I really don't you get in one cable video and all of a sudden you're feuding with the knowledge that you're feeding John Schneider and Pete Carroll I. I'm not feeling Josh Sadder CIDER whatsoever. Josh Saturday IRA good terms. Even though he doesn't know who I am. But all right WH- what stocked out you want to start with. I can't can I tell you something John. Schneider is such a personable guy that I don't know every time I see him. He's so nice to me that I think I think he knows who I am. But I guarantee hugh. He doesn't had a conversation with. Oh no I've had had four or five and every time he's like what's up man great to see and I'm just it's like this is awesome to me and Johnny Center. I guarantee you. He does not know who I am. I guarantee it all right. Do you WanNa start the Patriots. Yes all right doing all right so I want to be careful here because as much as you know the cable able fan of thing was it wasn't a great look for me it the state the stakes of it are still going at the seahawks but the stakes. Thanks are still relatively low if I if we bury the Patriots right now. I don't know how that's GonNa go for either of us. So where we because they're going to win the super bowl so suddenly tweet where patriots. Someone sent me a tweet earlier today. There was like can't wait to hear Clark explain why we can't write the Patriots traits off like really sarcastically. We can't write them off because they make or win the super bowl face cly every year and until they are eliminated. Aided that sort of what they do so this is my question to you at this point. Losing the by when it was on the line in with the way the offense has played and with how hard it is to rely on defense to win championships in twenty nineteen. Do you think that they are a significant step down from the other teams in the. AFC Do you think this is the year where they do not make the conference championship game. Okay okay so this is something that people circle a long time ago. which is you want? The one Seeta May of see because you don't want to have to play Kansas Kansas City and or Baltimore. You don't have to play those teams in the Patriots. You don't have to play those teams original round right. The Patriots go from nailed nailed on. We we you know we going straight to the one seed kind of thing in September and October two. The three seed and I don't think going on the road is necessarily a problem. I think they WANNA Kency last year plan against. I think it's GonNa be really freaking hard to play in Kansas City and in and Baltimore and run to the Gauntlet. Tennessee's no slouch. I just think I'LL PROBABLY NOT GONNA lose two games in a row at home and I also think that bell check and handled us. I decide Sunday was supremely weird game. I think they beat Tennessee and if I had to guess I had to guess they will. Oh probably lose to Kansas City and I regret saying that out loud if they lose the titans like twenty seven twenty seven seven. Seventeen on Saturday It wouldn't shock you write. It would not shock. I don't think that's going to happen however I don't think it's going to happen either. But a couple of things this is anecdotal but think about how they've played against spellcheck former ballot check assistance in the last couple of seasons. They got blown own up Tennessee. Last year they lost the lions last season. I think that those those guys who have a sense of that team have coached well against them and now you have have by. Who did they did it last year coming in? I think that Tennessee team is good. I think that Tennessee team knows what it is and a lot of ways and I think that's going to be a really close game. Even if the Patriots win it that is not a walkover game with Tennessee. Winning Pittsburgh had been in there. I think it's a different conversation but I think that Tennessee team is dangerous. Even at home for New England I really do. Yeah I just think about the league guys on that offense the Tennessee. That's the offense you have. Aj Brown Derrick Henry. How much money would you pay? The Derrick Henry is running straight toward you and someone stops. It's time and says you don't have to get hit by Derrick Henry but you have to give me money. What's your price point there so I tweeted this when I did my all pro team? I was going back and watching watching tapes of all the defensive linemen and I said that if you'd give me a million dollars to block Cam Hayward for one play I would take it but I wouldn't be able to use it because that would be dead so I think Derrick Henry is probably in store price range it starts at a million for you. Wow Yeah No. I'm I'm with. I really had to think about it and it wasn't just a joke. So I'm asking you the reverse. How much would you give? Would you give up like eighty percent of your cash on hand to get out of this situation now. If you told me you Derrick Henry thing okay if you don't like if you stood in front of me with a bag and the bag at one hundred thousand dollars in it okay and you said you can have this bag of money if you stand in front. Derrick can refer one play. I'd probably take a hundred grand but I think that's where it starts so let me ask you follow up question. How quickly would you you be able to return to normal work? Oh six months yeah now. I'd say it's like a month. Six months is probably listen at the. WTO recess debate about just like if you played in a football game. How long would it take you to get back to work if you if you football game? Yeah would you in turn. Would you return to normal activity within a year within a year. I probably get but it definitely wouldn't be a month. Yeah I can do a whole pot on hypotheticals like that. We will not be doing that. We will be off season fifteenth. Who what hits will take it? How can you can come back is definitely like June? I pod Yeah I I. I'm with you on that one and and so I think that Listen the Patriots look spent right now and this is this is sort of what they do in December. As we've talked about a couple weeks ago they they had that really bad game against Pittsburgh and what we sixteen last year and then they just sort of turned it earlier than that and won the Super Bowl. It was in December news the seventeen day but regardless looking spent in the win in the Super Bowl is kind of what they do. And that's why we're also hesitant to to count them out. I'm not counting them out. I would not be surprised at all. If they just start skiba them up and they and they make the Super Bowl But if I had to guess right now two weeks out well I think it probably ends for them Kansas City. I think that's probably fair. I think the Kansas City in Baltimore right now look like they're in a different class in the Patriots. Are All right. Would stick with stock down for a second here Let's just talk about some of the coaches. That seem like they're on their way out. Obviously we talked about Jason Garrett. I think that's a virtual certainty I've had a lot of conversations in the last three or four days people in Dallas about the thought process there all that stuff. I mean that's one we've known I I cannot bear it there I have not been in Baltimore. I've not talked to anybody in Dallas but I think the thought process is. Jason gets a bad coach. So it's not even about that. It's IT'S A it's not about whether or not he's straight it's about. It's about where they're going to go in the reasons to go that direction and I think that I'll write about that sube but I think what happens with franchises can be fascinating. But we've known that for a while things that happened today. Do you think the browns losing this game. Today is a good thing for that. So Freddie Kitchens is not a good coach and Freddie Kitchens who's not going to be a good coach so my question Russian kind of a did have to happen immediately thing. Yeah I think so now. What happens next? There's all sorts of chatter about the front office set up and John Dorsey net. Maybe not getting along with John Podesta who gets final authority. What authorities the coach? Oh Chavan the situation. Who is the coach? Is someone that that John Dorsey would really like. Maybe an ex packers koshen like that or is it someone the deeper Desta likes. You know someone like Kevin Stansky who we talked about a couple weeks ago was was deeply desta choices a couple of years ago so I think you start getting thing into situations Where in this happens in a handful of a front offices where there's just a lot of cooks in the kitchen and it just needs shakeout Out So it is going to be good thing. And he's everything going to be solved next week. Maybe but I do think that there's a fairly a good chance that things. There's an uptick from here because I don't think Freddie Kitchens was the guy reading that stuff about the structure there and about who gets final say about who has kind of the loudest voice in the room all that stuff. It really kind of reminds you that ownership ship and how things work he independent of. WHO's the GM who's the coach of that truly does matter because what? I was reading that stuff I was like this seems like a bad idea. It's I just think it's really hard to be successful when you have that. Sort of muddled kind of distribution of responsibilities and I. I'm just not sure where they go from here because I think John. Dorsey is good at picking the players. But but if we have this really these blurred lines and this lack of organizational vision that worries me and it seems like that's where the browns are right now and that's where they've been for really long time. Yup I mean we this is this is the browns and that that was the mistake that we made was. They had the hallmark that your marks of sort of a smart franchise. They got good value on guys. They made nice moves. But just because you make moves that that make you resemble a smart franchises I mean you are smart franchise in that. Football is made up of thousands of little tiny decisions and there are certain teams who make a vast majority of their decisions correctly. And they're certain Franchise that do not and guests which James Typically ended up winning over a longer period of time smart teams always be dumped teams. Well run teams always be in the long run over a ten near period. Let's say always be poorly. Ron Teams A. This doesn't happen every Sunday but it happens on most Sundays. And if you tally those up it happens in most years. Here's the most decades and the mistake with the Cleveland hype was mistaking a smart offseason. I Mar Franchise. And it's on them at this point going forward to build the smart franchise because it hasn't happened in Cleveland a long time. And the other coaches. You WanNa talk about before we move on coaches that will so oh Ron Verizon string candidate in Washington Couple of reporters have said the he they're nearing a deal. I guess He would get final. Say on the draft. I think that's very very dangerous. Game to play with Roussel and still in the building. He's out of operation. The has to go doesn't he. I understand I don't understand how you can bring in a guy like Ronald Varian keeper salad. It seems like the worst idea. Have you have you checked on the Washington redskins anytime in nineteen year. I haven't I've written about it. Extensively seems like the worst. The idea anyway So I think the right type of person to bring in there as strangely. I actually strangely rangy like Marvin Lewis more for that job. which now is a bad idea? There was so there was an interview in the Bahamas apparently That was harmless getting after after it and I think that that that makes sense just from reclamation project standpoint and Marvin Lewis one games with Mike Brown as an owner. And that's interesting interesting. I think brought to bear might be better fit somewhere else. But I don't know I mean I love Ron Rivera leader up. Yeah where are we on Mike McCarthy in Cleveland anyone. I'm not a Mike McCarthy Guy I guess I must say that flat out I just I'm not I understand why you'd interview him and I want to talk about this for a second when we get there but I I understand why you'd interview him. But if I was going to hire one of those types of guys like the retread who had like some sort of success over a long period of time I would rather go with Ron River if you WANNA do the C. E. O.. Type coach I think Ron Rivera's the better choice. Yes or Marvin Lewis. I would rather have Marvin Lewis Ron Rivera. If that's the type of head coach you want to hire. I don't know My advice is everyone passed on the Redskins job. Oh I absolutely would. I'm talking about for all the other other teams out. So the Mike McCarthy thing. I want to discuss very quickly. I Lake how the panthers are going about. This and I'm sure panthers had there's fans may not be super excited about the idea of interviewing Ron Rivera. But this is W- she's me if interviewing Mike McCarthy but when the reason you fire Ron Rivera with four weeks left in the season is to kick the tires on every single thing you possibly can so. The Panthers apparently reached out Pat Fitzgerald world. I don't think patterns. Gerald is a pretty particularly good football coach. But you should be doing everything you can to talk to everyone you can. When and you're literally trying to build the future of your franchise so I like what they're doing? I've met paths early. Couple Times used come into the Wall Street Journal and hang out with us. I live in Chicago so I know I'm aphids Gerald. Yeah Anyway I don't think fits Gerald can name five NFL teams. I'm sure I think I think I don't think you can. I mean he's just he's so into northwestern it's actually unbelievable but I think that you should talk to everyone you possibly can again. SELENA got Gerald said. No he said in there there were reports that apparently parents bears or bust for profit style. I cannot wait for pathophysiology. The bears job in two thousand twenty two I will. I will walk into Lake Michigan with boulders attached to my ankles now we tossed so we talked about about this a couple of weeks ago but the ability to D- ability to to keep an eye on the. NFL is actually a huge part of they. GotTa vel success us. And that's why I think you do tear someone like Matt Roar. I've talked Lincoln Riley and they kind of know what schemes are working. which coaches have worked in that kind of stuff and it's like Oh this could work at the NFL level and then again? That's why we had a couple of weeks ago like I don't think Dabo swinney knows who Tom Brady is like some of these guys. Is it just college college brained college specialists. If you had to put money on it right now. Speaking of Lincoln Riley. We'll move gone up from a coaching conversation a second day. If you had to put money out right now who do you think is the Dallas Cowboys head coach in two thousand twenty i. Will you know my favorite outcome will be. They do a for coaching search. And Jerry Jones decides his guys Jason Garrett. So it's funny because if you took the names out of the equation and you just did a the coaching search Jerry Jones would pick Jason Garrett. He saved member the the Black Mirror episode where The people just keep getting matched up and and they run the simulations. Do I'm talking about. Yeah it's like that. And they've run twenty million simulations of the Jason Garrett and Jerry Jerry Jones relationship time every single time Jerry Jones picks Jason Garrett Jason Garrett and Jerry Jones end up in that like what a weird hotel room is single time well. Let's let's leave that part out so I I understand what you're no. No it's not it's not going to be it's going to be I. I kind of want it to be urban Meyer but I can also. That's key planning on. I kind of think the Urban Meyer's go look at the situation. I mean Bryan. Curtis was on the joke of weeks. Ago Is there's so much that comes along with being the cowboys coach yesterday which which is different and it's not all football at all and I wonder for reminders can be like what the hell is this or if and Bryan Curtis made this point a reminder wanted to be. The Ford Coach wanted to be the Ohio State Co she likes Crown Jewel type things and I think that there is a real case to be made that he would want that challenge. If I had to put money out of right now I would say it's Meyer but the cowboys are not going to make the playoffs. So let's not spend a tennis among us. Let's get to stock up and speaking of teams not making the playoffs. Let's talk talk about the Cincinnati bengals because I watched Lsu play football yesterday and the Lsu quarterback is going to be the Cincinnati Bengals quarterback most likely weekly and that dude is really freaking. Good Man I. I'll be really curious to see what happens there. I think they could get a king's ransom ransom for him if they wanted. It and I am fascinated as to how that's going to play out so I don't think they're going to do that. I think. They're going to draft. Joe Borough I think they do too. Because they're boring franchise so the safe as long as the best way to not be franchise anymore to take Joe Borough and have them throw the ball of the field. I will say having so okay with Joe Borough. Let's let's just start irrational helping him up it his rookie year. What are the expectations for a guy like borough coming into a team like the Bengals who have to win talent? Zack Taylor did probably exactly exactly what he was supposed to do this year. Which is win two games with the roster? That was the was gonNA win two games. sameday Jaeger in their best player wasn't playing all season and kind of shut it down after week. Thirteen or fourteen whatever. It was When pretend I don't even know situation but in play all year right and he just not much to work with? So now you bring in Joe Borough in this situation. Do they go pull kind of Arizona cardinals situation where they go out and they build a little bit of a team around him or do they kind of let let the bottom fall out again next year. What do you see the borough bengals look like so? I Love Joe Burrow He. I tweeted this this morning. He is my favorite college quarterback of the last like ten years. I loved the style he plays with. I love his pocket presence. I love how accurate he is down the field. I love his ambition down the field. He is my favorite. I love watching him play in. LSU's offense show borough. And I wrote about this couple months ago when talk to people in the League about it. Joe Borough is not an exceptional talent. Joe Borough is not Pat Mahomes and I think that's important that's important to keep in mind because I feel Joe Borough needs a system. That's going to allow him to succeed if we if you drop Joe Burrow into Shawn on Watson Situation in Houston. It's not going to go. Well Zo by virtue of having Joe Borough. I don't think it makes you great so I I think Kyla Murray is similar. I liked the cliff cuyler pairing. I think that that was a good idea. I think it's going to go well. But even Kyle Murray I think by virtue but you of him being Kylo. Murray is a more transformative player than Joe Boroughs. I think you need Joe Borough in the right situation and I don't know so if next year and Cincinnati is the right situation. I think Joe Borough is obviously an incredibly special player. I think that I I don't don't know actually haven't watched enough film talking about people to to sort of have an opinion on your specific thought. These not Patrick Mahomes type talent but I do think saying what I see at this point. I think that he's at least going to make the browns better than he. So he's GonNa be around quarterback now. Yeah I'm looking I'm actually looking at Browns bengals highlights. That's how it happened but He's going to he's probably I mean He. The bengals did make the browns better by the way by By beating them and they have solutions fired having said that. Joe Borough I think is the type of player who immediately can almost cuyler. Was this year. If not extremely different players he can show so much of a flash that he makes them competitive games shouldn't be or they're going to win seven games next year. Probably not but are they going to be competitive because Joe Borough is going to have some awesome games. Yeah and those are the expectations. So I if we're talking about Joe's I am really curious what's going to happen go brady because if I were an NFL team. I would offer him five million dollars a year to be my my office coordinator like right now. Well does it up say these younger than us. It's crazy that he's two years younger than me I I. I can't even imagine it. I covered high school football when I was in college and it was the years that he was playing for everglades high school and I was very afraid radim actually looking through the clips to make sure. I never covered a game of Israel's I was just going to walk into the Baltimore Harbor. I did now. I covered a lot of walking being into bodies of water tonight. Different which it out you got to switch it up all right more stock up so you no I mean I think that there's I mean I guess it the Philadelphia Eagles the Eagles and the titans they took care of business when they had to. And I think there's something to that because there are a lot of teams today that either one didn't like New England or two made it a lot harder than it had to be lately Anger Eagles. The Eagles made a little bit hard mean. God bless that Defense Mad so Carson Wentz I saw Dan Orlovsky tweet And in some ways I agree with within that what Carson Wentz did this year is more impressive than some. This stuffy didn't twenty seven since all. I love Dan but Dan Dan has a blind spot for Carson and Matthew Stafford. That's that's dance thing. He loves them bolts so much and so but I think that someone had to win that division. So I don't think that we're going to look okay Carson Wentz this season and T- put it up next to you know Dan Marino nineteen eighty-four here but he he has been competent with a incredibly incredibly bland and cast of of receivers Agree with as Zakar. It's has what apparently is quite serious injury. And who the hell knows what's what what's going to happen in the short term there so I think that Carson Wentz is ability to run some competency or in the face of all of these injuries and the defense's ability to just to just generally Get things done and get to a point where they could win a really crappy division. There's at least some Some kudos that that should be thrown their way. I agree with you. I do think that there'll be a good team next year. I think that if they get even slightly healthy younger younger guys coming in and more prominent roles. We'll see what happens but I just again. We talk about Smart Franchises smartphone. Smart Franchises tend to succeed. And I think that there are smart franchise and groaned I. Just because I realize I WANNA pick them to win the super bowl next year By the way buddy. Guess what's on the table. Now Eagles his chief Super Bowl. Let's let's let's which we both picked right. Yes it isn't it is play. Can I tell you a funny story is this can't be the I was sent the picks in the preseason Meghan Schuster and I said sheafs over Eagles and then I sent my blurb and I was just doing a million things at once and I sent a justification for the Eagles win the Super Bowl. I don't believe Ed so ever I promise you this lacks. It doesn't matter that she's not GonNa win the super bowl either and I don't know I it doesn't matter and I was. I had to think about which one actually believed went back and forth on it and I decided that I I was just going to stick with. The Eagles was fine when the Eagles beat the the chiefs in the Super Bowl. We're going to look like freaking geniuses. It's going to be amazing. Yeah no it's definitely wasn't it wasn't that I waffle it wasn't that I changed my minor or anything like that. It was just that I kept going back and forth on. WHO WAS GONNA win my hypothetical Super Bowl to the point that I I'd even out thought myself tough before we get out of here? Let let us tip our cap to the most important thing that happened today. Jameis shameless Winston. Thirty thirty thirty thirty and thirty. I was watching that game. With bated. Breath the packers hackers. I've I've been in New York right now and I had to watch out because the situation where I'm staying was not appropriate for watching games at once and I made them put a The Falcons for the Falcons buccaneers game. It was right next to the packers. Lions game I was so much more interested in the buccaneers and watching Jamie's book the Guy Sitting next to me. I told them like he's away from thirty and all of us were like cheering. When he threw both interceptions it was Jameis Amos Winston throwing picks? Can you know it brings people together. It really is a special so first of all James Woodson after the game was like if I got got rid of those I'd be the best which is an amazing thing I I was. I was Awesome it was an Austin Bay from say the Bruce Arians press conference afterwards was unbelievable. Everyone everyone did a great job. Everyone did it almost reminds me a little bit of part. The reason that the saints and Rams Game was so interesting was that everybody after the game is played their role like Tommy Lewis who was receiver like told the story of getting hit like a million times to like five different throngs of media and then Nicole Aerobic Coleman Kept talking about how we just hit the crap out of them and it was just like everyone was just in the press conferences. Like yeah that happened. And that's kind of the James Thirty thirty thing is the Bruce Arians going to describe these things in detail Jameis Winston you're gonna be really funny about it albeit unintentionally like this is the we're getting the full will James Winston turnover experience here so Jameis Winston five years in his career. has has thrown eight interceptions K.. I love it that is that would be tied for one hundred and forty first all time in the NFL by the way mark. Sanchez is one hundred forty eighty nine. He's only been in the League for five years so number one ever is Brett. Farve obviously right. Yep So far through fifty nine more interceptions than any other quarterback of all time. George Blanda is number. Two and George Planet played well into his forties man. hand-drawn planned George. The number two John Hato Vin vinny obviously is number four because Vinnie played for thirty seven years. I am really the only reason I care about James Winston's career at this point is to see how many interceptions he throws if he ends planning a fifteen year career. Do John Hagel title and Fran Tarkenton. Both through a ton of picks for only playing each one friend played seventeen hades fifteen sixteen so yeah but those different era passing was not nearly as efficient to throw thirty interceptions in a world where it's easier to throw the the ball it's ever been is truly beautiful. I JUST CAN'T I. We will never talk enough about the year. That James Winston and just he threw thirty interceptions and twenty nine thousand nine. It's it's absolutely amazing. Someone's just GonNa Franchise tag him. I love IT I. He's asking for thirty million dollars a year apparently so exciting for different things man. I don't oh no man when it comes to quarterback so I'm not sure that different all right that's all we got. It is one twenty. AM where I am. So it's time because I am also on these coast ton more to get to obviously playoff individual playoff matchups coaching stuff. That on Thursday. Yeah there's probably going to be more fallout from the strange range. Non Pass Interference Review. That would have changed. Everything and Gotten Robert mays out of his very very pessimistic. SEAHAWKS rant and So Oh I think that. There's a lot on pack on Thursday. I want to address this very quickly before we get out here. It's not about seahawks pessimism. I I am optimistic about the SEAHAWKS. Think they're a good football team. It's more a question of if you take path B instead of path. A what happens. I want to make this clear. I think the seahawks are good. Team may the Super Bowl. I would not even blink it I just am wondering what would be different if they chose a slightly the different paths. That's it that's all. I'm just trying to get myself out of this right now. That's all too late guys as always thank you so much. How show on our guest network new back on Thursday mm-hmm?

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Gold with Jeanette Schneider Episode 54: Dance Like No One Is Watching with Jaycee Gossett

Gold with Jeanette Schneider

34:40 min | 11 months ago

Gold with Jeanette Schneider Episode 54: Dance Like No One Is Watching with Jaycee Gossett

"Welcome to gold with John Schneider negative inspiration for bigger better more purposeful life. Each week we share wisdom insights gold from those living their very best lives after twenty three years in finance. A left executive roles advocate for women and girls in life I love the boardroom and the marketplace now the CEO of live media. I am thrilled to create wellness based content and technology Saudi level up and become more conscious have you ripple the live APP launched Christmas Day for Apple. IOS This is purposeful content big conversations and beautiful place. Suppresses share our gold our dreams and create community gold live media production brought to you from the sound studio at the live headquarters. JC Gossip believes that. If you're not moving your dying in addition to helping her manage stress. JC recognized her love for dance by the way it always made her feel more like herself. It is the thing that lights her energizes her it makes her feel connected to the universal energy that surrounds us. She's on a mission to get the world to dance and move as a way to express energy and cleanse the body. Whatever creative movement makes exterior body happy? JC wants you to do more of that. Jaycee is the founding teacher and the vice president of experience at the class by Taryn to me after a successful dance career here onstage and in front of the camera including hosting and producing a project on the travel channel called dance the world. JC Immerse yourself in an intensive study of various forms of movement as juicy was seeking a powerful new space to help others. He'll she serendipitous. Lee reconnected with Taryn. To me and became one of the first teacher trees teaching her first class. In January two thousand fourteenth she has since brought the class taryn method to sold out audiences across the world. She currently oversees teacher training program and uses her unique brand of movement driven wisdom masterfully educate and elevate new leaders of the class practice across the country and Canada as a teacher of the class. She guides her students to move across the intensity of the circus us to seek the empowering expressive freedom within today J. C. and I discussed the therapeutic benefits of dance and movement the physical and emotional. Release that it brings and how how it gives us a deeper connection to our mind body and soul. Let's dig in. I'm so excited to have on gold with me today. JC Gossett thank you for joining. Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to chat with you today. I am as well. I have been just involved in your instagram. Your because I truly believe in the importance of moving our bodies and not just for or physical expression but for emotional as well and it seems that is what you live and breathe every day. That is pretty much pretty much at for not moving. You know you've heard the saying we're dying and you know one of the things that has helped me always in my life and as people ask me like how how I got into movement and what was my story in journey to get their movement was the thing that just always made me feel more like myself. It made me feel better. It helped me find ways to manage stress and tension but I really as I look back. It's like all of the moments almonds in time where I felt maybe overwhelmed or life was getting to a place that it was getting unmanageable. I had I had deviated from my movement the practice so that's a lot of people can relate. Yeah I've noticed that whenever I'm having a really hard time kind of it's because I haven't gone to the gym I haven't practiced yoga regularly. I am not the best answer. I have gone to movement losses. That at first. Yes I was I was like I'm just GonNa live in this space and I was surprised at how deeply I need to take up space. I needed to move my arms. I needed to feel bigger Gar and I was like. Wow this is really powerful when you have type of kind of like I. It sounds like you're grounding into your body and your taking ownership of it it's like absolutely beautiful practice. How you had a movement practice your train dancer and then you moved into the class and I know that that's been this really beautiful undertaking that it looks like it's sweeping the nation by storm? I know that we hope so how literally we hope. It's sweeping and cleaning out bodies everywhere nation. That's amazing well. I think it's so important like I look at the pictures. And that's why I think I love following what you guys are doing because I look at the pictures and you see pure release and pure joy. Talk to me a little bit about how people come to the class. What their experiences and then how they leave? I want to know about that kind of transition. Totally a so people find us. I would say a combination of word of mouth of the comes and they call someone up. They Love I. I just had this incredible experience at this thing. I don't know what happened. But you gotta come with me next time so I think a lot of it is through someone having an experience hearings impacting them and then them wanting to someone wanting to share it with someone they love or things that don't enjoy the experience and also like you said you're following on social media We are getting our message out that way so it we have a we have a percentage of people that come and I find us for the physicality because is there were known for a very intense and thorough ringing out of the physical body that you're going to have a great rate workout so I think people come in the door sometimes for that first lens of the physicality and then what they experience is the emotional release in like you said it. When and you're looking at the pictures and you're seeing pure release in pure joy Those moments of the class that they may not have anticipated what have happened that leave a long lasting costing effect for them because we all know that moving bodies and poor and we try to get in our fitness throughout our day or throughout our week. But I think the conversation were all in right now is how the movement practice is really really setting you up for mental health and Taking care of yourself on emotional level. So they're feeling those effects which I find ends up bringing US bringing people people back because you connect we prioritize. What were we feel? The most connected to an exercise can feel like this thing that we have to do and then we do it and then we think about something else. We're doing it because we don't love it so much but what we're doing. The class is really practicing life as removing the body. So when you have those types of emotional final release end you feel yourself tending to your mental care in your emotional care that ends up being the same that makes you wanNA come back. I love that I love specifically that you've talked about mental health because I think one of the things that we are so afraid to do as a society is feel our way through our emotions and that can be a very so when I've done movement classes I there's something called vent here in Las Vegas and one of those classes and I actually got emotional a couple because all of the sudden with this realization. That like I'm I'm feeling my way into my body. I'm realizing all the ways I'm playing small right and I had this emotional connection and and tears started to come and I think it's such it's a beautiful thing when you can provide people with an outlet and a place that safe and everyone's doing the same thing right. They're getting their workout but at the same time they're able to connect with parts of themselves that when they get in the car and they drive home they probably aren't. You're not going to be like let me work through all of these feelings that I have. You're when you're giving them the space in the place to be able to do that. Have you had anyone share any stories of Catharsis or any type of moments that they've have been mind-blowing. Yeah Yeah definitely all all the story I mean we. We have had the privilege to have people come through through the class. In use the method of it to work with specific TRAUMAS that they've experienced in their life either older current people working through grief of losing loved ones. Be Career Changes Divorces marriages Redefining finding themselves like coming in working on very specific patterns that they're looking to shift but what you were sharing of of having that safe space to Begin to feel into your emotions because they're they're incredibly informative like thank goodness we have emotions. Thank goodness that That it's designed in that way because they are transmitting very valuable information but like you were saying this conditioning of you know they're inconvenient and actually we don't really WanNa feel them because they kind of get in the way sometimes and there's this expectation to just not have emotions in especially in the corporate world within the business world and But we we know is that they're they're there and the more you ignore them the more they begin to wreck Kavak on your mind and your body and your heart and your life so once you begin to put the body in motion because as you are feeling A it goes beyond. Just what is happening in your brain. You're thinking and then you're feeling and as we studied the way. The body works and emotions and trauma it gets stored in the body and the physicality whatever it is that you can't processor necessarily make sense of. Where does it go? It gets stored into the body so as we start to move all of the unfilled. All of the unprocessed unprocessed all of the lake. Yeah you know. I haven't really necessary. Thought about these aspects of where I'm feeling small. We begin to be able to move in and then how beautiful. The body has this system of cleansing of tears. How incredible that when you hit on those pockets of truth or pockets of stored emotions are unseen unsaid? This beautiful release of tears or sound or laughter or Deep size can come to help help ourselves peel. I love that. I think it's a beautiful. This huge smile on my face as you're talking for those people who feel separate from their body right they have have the body issues body image concerns. They don't own their body or feel separate. From what advice would did you give the past the history that you have in movement and your own experience. What advice would you give those folks? Yeah get get to know your body you know like you said. I think that we can just kind of it. Becomes this thing we carry around. We have a love hate relationship that we know we love it but we know we need it but we don't necessarily love it So getting to know your body like you would get to know your friend or your partner or your boyfriend or like talking to it everything that you can do to actually use it and be present when you're using it so that could be everything from doing exfoliating foliage body scrubs being in the bath taking care to put really really Delicious Body oil on after the shower. They pay attention to the physicality having your own sensation of your hands on your body an end knowing what your own body is is going to take some of that gray array On kind of like knock concrete relationship that you have a and make it a little more solidified and then that goes with moving to so if we're disconnected from her body's chances are most of the time we're in our head in them. Were faking when we're moving. We begin to enter the space of more feeling unless was thinking so for some of the people that I work with It'll it'll just be putting your body in motion and whatever physicality that you resonate with whether it's lifting weights whether it's dancing whether it's yoga like what makes your body happy start to go down that path but if you really think about is like if you're GonNa if if you want to deepen your relationship with anything you have to spend time using it. You have to spend time in conversation with it. So you're you're entering a dialogue of getting to know your own body. I love that I feel so I feel that very deeply because as I get older parts of my body that are a little bit more. It's not interested in changing and I've gotten into this place where it's kind of Grounding into it and owning it and loving it and feel the way it moves and the way I hug the child and the way I did and the way I put on lucious smelling lotions and bathe and do everything with intention and those moments try to create sensory experiences so that I can have a relationship with my body rather than it just beaten. I think you said it very well like this thing that comes along with you. It's kind of consider it just this thing that we're kind of stuck with a lot of times as opposed to having a deep relationship with it where we're like like I have to take care of this temple and anything to is that true movement. It's not just a spiritual or emotional release. There's also the science of of removing toxins from your body working on your person. Pathetic nervous system. There's so many science based studies. He's and proof that moving your body of course cardiovascular system and all of these things but we have a tendency sometimes separate ourselves from that. I'm curious is for you and this is your lifestyle. What is your daily liked? You have a practice. Do you wake up in the morning and do certain things. What does that look like? Yeah Ah Yeah on my day. It shifts from day to day depending on how much I'm teaching and in my role I'm also The MVP experience at the class and a lot of what my role is is directing the teacher training and Development Program for a teacher so that looks like taking other teachers classes observing serving our own teachers other teachers outside of the class as we scout for four teachers so and then when I'm not teaching class or doing anything anything like the sort than I'm in our headquarters in our office in Tribeca so my day can be in various different places says that requires lots of different outfit changes Gary Back with you on my gosh. My Mom's still to this day calls me the bag lady. She's like when under you no longer going to beat the bag lady. Just carry multiple bags everywhere. You go so eight what. What is what I found owned that helps me especially in New York City? It's chaotic they're carrying all the bags. And I I do my my. Hi Dave get set up the best when the mornings are just for myself so if that means I have to wake up two hours before I have anything the thing that I need to show up for and have that time just for myself then. That's how I feel my best for the rest of the day and in in that time because I'm moving my body so much throughout the day I I'm not starting with a movement practice unless potentially it's a day that I'm not moving out a couple of days where or I'm not moving but I'm moving my body so much that in the morning. What feels good to me is having quiet drinking my hot water and lemon and apple CIDER? Vinegar being very clear whereas I plan out my day how. I'm going to spend my time. What my priorities are making sure I leave my house with with a substantial amount of healthy food to sustain sustain my energy and being really well prepared I feel that my myself cure for That feels right for me. Is Making sure that I'm prepared for in my day when I'm not prepared feel like taking good care of myself. That's when I'm like oh I didn't I didn't bring bring lunch or bring a snack so now I'm in that place where I'm Hungary crashing. I don't want to eat or didn't bring the right change of clothes or figure out what my priorities were in. My energy doesn't feel as potent. It feels kind of dissipated so the mornings mornings and the evenings are the buffers of time that I dedicate so lead for myself and self care. I think that's such a huge message to create almost like the priorities and the planning for the day. I'm I'm building out a big project right now. I have an APP. It's coming this launching. Chris Cool Yeah. Thank you And I have to tell you. It's around wellness and self care. That's assume one area where I have struggled and it's really it's really funny like even if you're in the life and the lifestyle. Oh Yeah you have to get to this place where you're like okay okay. What are my priorities today? How do I make today flow? Because it's the days where I'm just running out of the House taking my daughter to school and like with my calendar her that I eat poorly. I missed I missed the gym. I don't meditate and then that adds up so I love that message that creating being like almost like. What are my priorities today? What do I need to take with me so that I have the tools that I need to have the most successful day? I think that's beautiful fall today. Goal is brought to you by live media and the live APP now available on the apple APP store. We believe that healthy you today leads to a healthier the're world tomorrow to that end. We have created accountability features and a platform of curated coaches and thought leaders in a wide variety of areas. All to bring each person to their your best self as a whole and healthy individual. We do this through time proven tools. 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Fam- Te'o What makes you feel the most alive? makes me feel most live being being in nature being outside died in the natural elements just lights up every cell in my body I be in the sun being the ocean on the beach being surrounded by trees and green all the natural than the natural elements make me just feel the most electric and alive Movement for sure when a moving my body I feel connected. I feel more energized. Tapped into source energy universal energy And Music Music is a big part of affirmation probably because of my background as a dancer and the class is a music driven practice Listening to music and being in music moving specifically to music on the beat also gives me that feeling of alive is event. I think that music for me has been. I have playlist based on what I need so I am I am I need to bring it down a notch. I have a playlist for that. That's really mellow I have one for. Like when I'm just like in the really creative creative mood and then I have one where I'm like. I need to go slice and dragons and basically my mental health on an employee foia. Because I think it's so important that we find the things that light us up and we find things that make us feel alive so that we have those moments of just connect or those moments overwhelm overwhelm. We have these touch points that we can go back to and I agree with you. Nature to me actually was just in San Francisco recently and we went to the Muir Woods and we're walking the redwoods and prayerful for me like I actually place of of prayer and solitude and it just I feel like I'm kind of like I'm grounded. I'm got everything that exists. Outside of this forced is unimportant in this moment and I think if you can get into that head space anything and create practices for yourself and know what lights you up and have those little touch points. I think that that so incredibly valuable. I'm curious serious of for you. I know that you've had a long history with dance Do you feel that when people come to movement that their I nervous do they. Are they hesitant. Like what do you do when you're just standing there like confused and worried and yeah the deer the deer your headlights. Well what even though my first my first Modality was dance that I fell in love with I recognize sped sped even though I believe in my soul. Everybody's a dancer. I believe that if I leave that dancing is literally you just moving your body in a way that feels creed read doesn't mean choreography. It doesn't mean performance But so what I realized over time was even though I I love dance and I was. I was a percentage of people that felt that way but everybody didn't feel that way. There was a lot of conditioning and I traveled around the world. I studied movement. I looked at the history and the roots of dance and all these different cultures and from the beginning of time we all moved we all danced and we do do that. In prayer and ritual we would do it for the harvesting of crops. We would do it when there was a wedding or there was a morning or there was a birth or there was a You were choosing your mate so I think over time it kind of we got. It became bread out of us in a way where it was no longer or part of a human passage or human rights and something that we did on a day to day basis but it then kind of turned into this thing that you would be. You would be shy about because I think we weren't doing enough. You know what I mean so when I when people hear the word dance I think they feel like oh my. Gosh I'm I'm it's something that I that I'm going to be judged upon or I'm going to be good at it or not good in it and we all probably have some story. I have stories of being being in Grammar School. And you know you you get laughed at or someone tells you that you dance too big or too much and we started collecting these experiences. And then we've form an idea that we either can dancer. We can't dance so I think the word dance in itself can be triggering for people but what is beautiful about. The class is the the movement that we're doing. It is movement in a creative way that is about expressing energy and cleansing the body but it is not at all in in executing shapes for a specific aesthetic or choreography or performance. So once people I think understand that that at this is this is not about performing something or an execution of it in a in a pleasing way. It's purely based on moving how you feel deal and however you feel is right so however you move is right that alleviate some of your saying the terror or the or the the fear but depending on what your relationship is with your body and how comfortable you are in it at that point in your life and how much you move it or don't move it it will set you up on onto how into your entry point of probably your first and second class of of how comfortable you feel but just like anything if it's super foreign to you you kind of just need to do it and you need to do it again and again and again and then you recognize that nothing. Terrible happens no-one no-one no-one one nothing happens. You don't die. The the person next to you doesn't look at you and say something horrible like you move and then you're like wow actually that I was probably terrifying and what we what we journey on in class is is really watching things come up and getting very curious about it so what I what I find so interesting for people's when they do allow themselves to get curious around the story they have about moving their body. That's were incredible insights. Come you know that will. Yeah because I think that's one of those self awareness techniques where it's like if you can be curious about your emotions can be curious about the stories that you have in your head if if you can be curious about the way you react when you're in conflict and and be in that space of observation of self as opposed to in your head and reacting or having to win or having to close it down. I think that that's just a life lesson anything that's like. One of the things people have to take with them is. Is this kind of let me study myself. Let me allow myself to be known. It's such a beautiful way of I think navigating the world as opposed to having these rigid expectations of what. You should look like how you how you should behave how you speak. How should interact with I? I I think that's that's really beautiful. I took my daughter to a dance. Class she's eight and she wasn't sure what to think and even though like she would dance and she would get totally silly but what I appreciated about. It was the look on her face. I will never forget it ear to ear smile while while head hung back like pure open heart and I'm like Oh fats so free right if places being so free three and allowing our emotions to to flow through us like what a beautiful place. I love it so questions for you. If you were to look at a younger Jasey. What advice would you give her? And how old would she be she may she. CBS around your daughter's age. When you said eight for Abbas yes he eight-year-old singing about your eight year old daughter in dance class? They going being very clearly back to myself at eight in my in dance class lying at my invited to to to my younger self I would say probably from eight to twelve delve wood-beam Thomas of that you'll find a way to make it happen on terms that worked for you spend unless time measuring yourself by how it looks for other people. That's really powerful. I think especially raising a little. Oh girl receiving a lot of information about how things shouldn't shouldn't be like can you imagine the power if they didn't believe and I didn't I I'm the only girl on my family and I was the only person that danced. I I have a five other Group of five boys in my family and My I didn't feel like in my family Eh. The we had a difference of the things that we were connected to like I was connected. Dance and travel and Kind kind of more of a bit of a Free Spirit and I spent a lot of time worrying that things weren't going to happen for me like they did for other people. Because I I didn't how looked for them didn't feel right for me. That's that's very wise right that to have that kind of awareness that like. That's not right for me rather than feeling wrong right rather the feeling that it's like I'm wrong because I'm not fitting into mold but like hey that doesn't that doesn't work for for for me and I wrote my own path. Anything that's really. That's really powerful. If you were to be leaving this earth and you wanted to leave behind gold nuggets of Wisdom Administration for those. You're leaving the next generation. Whatever that may be what would that look like? My advice would be to learn early. The difference between healthy and toxic relationships when it comes to friendships love in your career learn to learn it early learn what healthy love is and how that applies to all of your relationships and what unhealthy love is as a man would've booked on relationships and it was definitely publisher came back to me and was like hey everything in the book. Every other chapter is really strong except for your section on relationships and I was like. Yeah that's because I relationship. So he's he was like you're going to have to figure out how you feel about it so I had. I ordered all these books on anger and intimacy and conflict and healthy relationships ships and boundaries. So that I could read it all frame and opinion and I started dating my current partner at the same time as over one night and I was like I just want you to know that that I have all these books about Mary missy. And it's not for you right now and he's like Oh my God you have a roadmap and I'm like I do and he's like can I gave him the chapter because and we've framed our relationship on that on that chat because because it was I will agree with you. Unfortunately it's usually at a very advanced age unless you have a mentor in your life or someone who's kind of got their hands on your shoulder older and guiding you that you realize like maybe I shouldn't put up wisdom of things they do and maybe I'm worth more than I'm accepting. Yes and we say something a lot at the class and Natalie my colleague in the she's also founding teacher of the class. She will often say a what is familiar is not necessarily good for you. That's so powerful. Because we get into these like I remember awesome Italian. One time like complacency is death when we're comfortable and we're complacent and we're we are kind of sitting in familiar relationships in patterns patterns. That doesn't necessarily mean that they're healthy doesn't mean that you're growing and unfortunately one of the things that I have to share with people who are in the self development space is is growth is not comfortable but it is very uncomfortable. And we're so worth it. I mean it in when you really think about it. It's like with anything grows. If you watch plant grow if you watch anything really you change its state. Of course it's going to come with strong sensation. You're going from one thing to the next that is it doesn't. It's not like just like magic wands. You know you're actually like forming something totally new and and turning something jumping over which when you when you think about it that way like of course it's GonNa come with strong feelings? Yeah no feel the feelings move your. I'm not saying like all these. Are the lessons feel your way. I love it I want to thank you so much for being with me today and sharing your wisdom dumb if people want to find you. Should they go. Yes so you can find me. I'm instagram my name is Jaycee Gossett and you can learn more about the class at the class dot dot com we are live streaming now so we have a digital studio so If you go to our website you can learn about all the places we offer the class which is in New York City Los Angeles Vancouver we have a residency in Miami and then throughout the year. We do all this incredible programming forty retreats two-day Uday Retreats One day retreats week long retreat and all these different beautiful locations. If you WANNA join us that way or join our digital platform and streaming into our classes in New York Pity brilliant to digital platform. Very very wise. Thank you very much. You think sweet to share everything and I'm just Houston. Oh you think you have a great rest of your day. Thank you for joining me today. I love Harkin with JC about the power of dance and movement it and its connection to the health of our mind body and soul remember. 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