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"Talk from time to time. About other podcasts. My colleagues are working on here at abc. But i wanna tell you about one where you might be able to help write the ending. Hear me out. The year is nineteen ninety. Eight a new york computer salesman named john rufo has been sentenced for his role in one of the largest fraud scams in american history. He's ordered a show up. I prison sentence but instead he just vanishes now all these years later the us marshals and our team or following the clues tracking down leads from across the country and around the world. All along the way asking the question. have you seen. This man helped crack the case. The podcast have you seen. This man is available now regulus. One last thing. Nobody's happy about the number of fires in the west. Nobody's happy about the abnormally. Large storms and floods will. Mcdonald's is hoping climate activists are happy about this. We are on a path. Mcdonald's to make all of our happy meal toys. More sustainable sustainable. What does that mean well. It means we make them out of materials. That are better for the earth. That's right. Mcdonald's is trying to make one of the most popular items in the history. Of eating more sustainable. You know the toys that come in a happy meal will. The company now says it will use way less plastic to make them soon. Those fearsome dinosaurs might be made out of plant based material. Was little cars will be made from recycled products. But donald's actually wants to make you were action figures overall and instead make little paper three d models even paper toys like pokemon cards would come not in plastic packaging but fiber based pouches. Are these sustainable. Happy meal toys fisher are mcdonald. Says it's already tried this in some european countries and now wants to go worldwide but critics say changing your toys as great. What about your food. Where's the beef. Remember that beef. Business is widely considered one of the most harmful agriculture sectors on earth and. Mcdonald's is the world's largest purveyor of ambers but happy meals are big business to they single handedly make mcdonald's the world's largest toy distributor. I mean. Just look at how excited our producer. Tara could make her kids with the mere mention of a happy meal yesterday. You guys want to go and get happy meals at mcdonalds but wanna promise seems too good to be true. There's always fine print with mcdonald's. Is that this new policy. Won't take effect until twenty twenty-five and terrorists. Kids might have to wait a little bit longer as well tomorrow. Just hear the disappointment in their voices. That's exactly how. I felt when i found out that past september twenty first. Our nights are longer than our days you guys. It's getting darker. start here tomorrow. Just describe more and only stories at abc's dot com or the abc news app. I'm brad mielke. Nbc news on winner of nine. Edward r murrow awards more than any other network including winning the award for overall excellence in both television and radio. Abc news is america's number one source..
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"They're mainly to their territories. So you need to start from there find. Fabio told chris he had in fact done exactly what chris was hoping had initiated a fresh review of the rufo case. Stocking now is the case cold-case if rufo is in italy fabio said his continued freedom depends on both his aversion to risk and the quality of his forged papers forge documents. The basis of everything for future think fabio said it would be difficult to pierce the shield of protection. Rufa would've built up over two decades of life in a new identity. The only way is to is to stop living police chair by chance in any case standard. Police officer with us he to show his passport israelites. Us if show. I will craft for the documents even the okay. The police officer Surely check with quite the season deceased will give a negative response. Okay thank you sir bye. This is basically you need to have a reason to to get fingerprints from the person in decades. The the only possible way to identify a fugitive search jer. Who for is to to get his. This is the only way. John rufo was arrested in europe or later in an elsewhere and fingerprinted it when anybody know that he's working in the united states yes of course. Yes this is so. That would be over the course of several hours. Fabrio began introducing. Chris and eric to a succession of senior national police. The head of the financial crimes unit the head of the anti mafia division. The head of the narcotics squad. Some were eager to dig into the details of the rufo case the head of drug enforcement speaking with an interpreter. Ask therapy if he had wanted posters they could distribute around the country provided one hundred. Us marshal wanted posters. So it's a success no matter what the big but also much others were more skeptical like this man who heads the anti mafia section and also spoke with me through an interpreter g again without giving the age cookie duress actually on the most wanted poster also awfully composite amke golden lab restored. The age progression is so now with sixties so anyways we will. We will look for jackson our and the for mr. Yeah at the end of the day. Fabrio joined the marshals for dinner at a treasury. Ria on the road back towards rome over pasta and chianti fabrio vowed to them. He would work the case with fresh vigor view. His guys worked this case before the done phenomenal work and just like any case after years go by it dies out so we're here because we just want maybe the bring back into as we loaded back into the van and drove back in the direction of rome. I was uncertain. Had this journey bene- success then. I thought about the series of meetings. How every one of the senior national police officials even the skeptical head of organized crime held a thick file packed with information about john. Rufo eric rung told me a fuse had been let it put john rufo literally in the forefront I think in the conversation with especially with people who can make things happen. He's cool here. You know the the colonel and charged to john rufo. We're gonna talk more about. The author seems a priority for them. So that's pretty neat to to hear firsthand as we. We've passed the coliseum and through the center of this ancient city the marshals seem satisfied. If rufo was hiding in italy his life was about to get a little less comfortable. This just puts it back on top. So everyone's talking about john rufo which is great. That's what we want. These are the people who make decisions. the general the colonel. They're the ones that if things happen in italy. They're the ones that they're going to make. It happen for an investigation. That's made so little headway. After so many years. The search for john rufo suddenly seems to have sprung back to life the marshalls are doing fresh digging on that old tip about the dominican republic to see if he really was. They're using an alias. They also have renewed interest in the efforts by the italians who've been doing their own digging whether john rufo should be concerned about that this many years after he vanished off the face of the earth. That depends on who you ask even a year. After rufo sled jeffrey lichtman. His lawyer famously said on sixty minutes he thought rufo would never be caught. Because from what i can see so far. He's smarter than the people looking for them. I asked c'mon how he felt about it now more than two decades later. I think they'll ever capture him. No i don't think they'll ever capture john russo. And he had one more thought to add. I don't encourage people to jump bail and runaway. But if you ask me if. I'm happy that john rufo is still gone. Yes i'm i'm happy for him. I hope he's healthy. I hope he's doing okay. I hope you found some happiness. Wherever he is and is. I often think about this. You wanna disappear. It's not that hard as long as you're willing to do what needs to be done to stay disappear. Which is you have to cut off. Everything caught off everybody in your lives. Never talked to anyone. Never show up anywhere and just disappear. And that's what. John apparently do others. Don't feel nearly as charitable towards rufo or to the achievement of besting. Us law enforcement and the american justice system for the better part of two decades on a recent trip back to delaware. I stood with berry. Bow right on his dock overlooking title chesapeake bay creek in retirement. He spends his mornings on a small fishing boat letting his mind drift and sometimes he says he thinks about the one that got away at this point..
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"Look on the surface that that is. I had spent a fair amount of time trying to make sense of these loose threads and while there seemed to be no way to tie them into a convincing yarn about john rufo turning in desperation to some wise guys for help. None of that raced italy from the map of his possible destinations. One person who i hoped might have some insight about that was now staring at me on a windy front porch rushing. My goodness we're doing a story about a man who was a customer. I showed the barber a photo of rufo saw. Forget about it. I don't know this guy. john. John rufo yes thirty five years ago. It was a recognize the photo right away. I know this but what do you want to know. I quickly recounted the story of the business card. The one with his brother's name on the business card. Yes magic magic. And he's back in italy right who that's my brother. Your brother his address and phone number was in john. Rufus right pocket right so i think the question would be do you think. Maybe he's somewhere in italy. Did your and you heard what happened. That he disappeared disappeared with money or something or he. He stole a lot of money from where i was trying to get back to the point of my visit. That paper with the address in italy. I wonder why he did. He know your brother was your brother still neither. They was just customer the shop. That's all michael told me. He did remember that rufo had his brother's information he knew it. He said because linda had come to see me. She wants annoy china where her husband was. I said i saw and because he was one of my brothers customer. They thought maybe you went to italy. After that i called my brother. And i asked him about it i say did john come over here and he said no. I haven't seen him in the long long time since i left since i came back to early. So i told michael. There was a theory one the us marshals had been pondering that perhaps rufo had fled to italy theory. Michael waved me off this not italy at all. He said i believe he moved south. America somewhere really. That's what i think just us. Yeah just a guest now. There was a woman on the stairs. Just behind michael. Who was still at the door talking to me. Yeah i wanna go just disappear without anything you know. i didn't. We weren't friends we didn't. I didn't go. Way south in eating kumbum house so i had more questions but i could see my window to ask them was closing. Michael began to turn to the stairs. That's all i know. I don't know anymore. If i knew some go you because it's been i don't even know if the guy he's still alive he might be. He's be sixty six right now. I still could be still alive. I felt sorry for his wife because when his wife came to see me right. fd disappeared. She said he he left. They took everything away from us. They took my modest house. They took my house. They took everybody's everybody's housing nominee middle of the street with my. I think i think he she had a baby girl. I think back then so. She left me in the middle of the street. She was making sure sounded like linda thought he knew more at least at the time but that was all i would get. Yeah i'm coming okay. I'm sorry thank. You really appreciate it i..
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"I know everybody thinks that. I doubt very much that was part of it. Rufus other lawyer judd burstein told me she was the one who handed off the case to lick men and he considers it outright silliness to try and draw any line between rufo and lick men's other clients. Jeff linkman would not have been putting john rufo and john gotti junior together if only out of fear for john gotti out of fear of john gotti junior tastes. Rufo did something to him. I honestly didn't know if any of these questions was fair just because rufo was from the old neighborhood. That alone means nothing. This is how bursting put it. He's a you know. An italian guy from brooklyn views from eighteen th avenue but you know there were a lot of wiseguys in those days but on the other hand you know. It's very hard to follow that up. Because i don't know how much there's left to the mafia or the dies who were around that still lots of people believe rufo had help getting away and there were only so many places he could turn for safe passage with the law bearing down on him so crazy of turn to the mafia to help make sense of that question. I turn to robert boyce. He was chief of detectives at the new york police department and retired after overseeing the organized crime bureau now. He's an abc news consultant. I asked him if the mob would have any interest in someone like rufo went to the. He went to organized crime arizo sixty percent. Of course they would be an all these kinds of numbers which were tremendous these big money very attractive to them money. They lay off in different ways of shell corporations. There'd be attracted to it whether he did that. You made some remains equating question right now. What about what about when somebody like him. He's in trouble. He's been arrested. He's been convicted and he's about to face a long prison stretch. Is that a time. Somebody might turn to organized crime for in getting away if he has the means if he has a lot of money to back himself up. Sure you can see him. Say i need this business. I need papers. I need a place to go. I need a banks ability to us banks in that country and the move money around but chief boyce put all this. In the category of ranked conjecture you checked out the relatives that that the marshalls had looked at initially to rufo. And you don't see anything that would suggest a connection. I am yet But you'll take a look again. Tiny americans special people at grey markets. So as you hate to say that just because he's game because this criminal did that interest is besmirch other. I noted that according to reiner's roussel had been going around boasting about mob ties. Their confidence people haven't writers. Were both confidence than someone like this. If he's if he needs a bluff in a certain situation he can pull that out of his hat. Og connected person so doesn't mean actually intro. What is to be determined right now. There's any kind of does he does..
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"The marshals were on the hunt for one new stream of information. And i was looking for another by trying to track down the man behind one of the more unusual spy cases in fbi history. Earl pitts served twenty four years in prison after pleading guilty to espionage but now he had come home to missouri on a family farm he had resumed a peaceful life reading books and enjoying the solitude and natural beauty of the land where he grew up. He agreed to me in springfield and to see if he could help us. Find some clarity about john. Rufo use wanted to make sure you're comfortable doing this. That this is okay with your plea agreement and your parole and everything else notice. I'm trying to think of where best to start. i i wanted to. I wanna talk about you in new york russians in new york. I wanna talk about rufo and his environment and what he was doing. I mean ultimately the purpose of this conversation is to and help us understand where john rufo might be your how he might have gotten away. That's i played pits recording of that first conversation with linda invoking his name. I wanted him to understand why i'd reached out to him and i wanted to see how he'd react. And you had mentioned that one of the agents was a man named earl hits and what was the connection there. That name kept coming up so she brought up your name because one of the things that john rufo did during this period after he had been arrested was that he tried to claim that he was a cooperator with the fbi previously and that his company ccs was a front company for the fbi was wondering if that rings any bells with you or his name as you look back now. The the first time. I ever heard the name john rufo was when you you brought it up to man and in the context of this conversation i showed pets documents from the rufo court file in which he had invoked kits his name along with other f. b. i. Agents from the new york office. He paused and read them carefully. What do you think from your with any of those names on there other than than my own on that loss where he would be gotten my name. Does the description that he gives of the work. He says he was doing ring. True to you as something that would have been done out of the new york office of the fbi operations like that in general would wouldn't be unusual pits never wavered on this. I showed him rufus picture. He said he simply did not know eh. As i shared more details about rufus claims he tended to agree with the position that federal prosecutors took at the time that rufo was trying to bootstrap his past government work to the outlandish crime he had committed. And of course. It's it's certainly possible that he was working with the fbi and doing illegal activities separate from bounce It's not unusual at all for informed soil or assets to cooperate with with the fbi or other law enforcement agencies on on one level. Hoping that they'll be there to to vouch for them or give them some some sort of cover for other illegal activities that they're not disclosing to their agents pitt said his read was that once rufa was in trouble he had tried to exploit the relationship he had built with. Fbi agents and maybe. He said with the soviets as well. I would certainly consider his the context that he made with soviets. Yeah he he might be a worthwhile target for intelligence officer just because of the people he you do. You think that the soviets at that time would have been receptive to outreach from somebody with his knowledge base. His background absolutely. They're they're always up to. Yeah someone who who had access to. Computers could acquire computers for them who who has contacted them even if they believed that this person was behalf of the fbi believe they would be receptive to him. At this moment. i couldn't help it. Ask pits about his own experience. I mean this was someone who had allegedly made his own plan to mountain escape as fbi. Director louie freeh told reporters after his arrest your starting indicated. It was an emergency escape plan and it was a plan which he developed. An which was a subject of great concern. Obviously during the course. I ask you about your personal experience because i watched that press conference that louis freeh held after your arrest where he insinuate use it outright That that you had a plan to leave the country and is that true. Did you contemplate leaving the country or or at being exfiltrated in some way pitt said it was the fbi working to trap him who pretended to be russians offering an escape plan which he says he rejected an my rejection. I told them. I i had a plan. And how would need their help. I wondered if he had any insights about rousseau here. I was talking with a convicted spy. Who had his own exfiltration plan did he think rufo had a plan or could have asked the russians for help in getting away at intelligence service.
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"Why p up. Well these are individuals that are self made people that started their own companies. they were very successful companies and we elicited support from certain members of the y. peo- group to backstop operations covert operations and things like that and at one of these meetings these ad hoc meetings they produced this individual john rufo who was very capable In the field of computer technology and in nineteen ninety nine thousand nine hundred ninety one. Believe me when i tell you. The bureau was in the dark ages with computers at that point so he was of interest and his roof left the same kind of impression on blah that he seemed to leave on everyone he could fit in to a crowd. You wouldn't really pick him out. He wasn't tall he wasn't You know outlandish attire anything where you would look and say. Who's this guy. I explained to blah that. I had found his name in rufus papers and back in the nineties. Rufa was planning to mount a defense in court based on the idea that he was an fbi asset. He argued is part of his defense that he had worked as a cooperator on a highly sensitive covert operations for the fbi counter intelligence operations in new york city and Any any name of an operation. Did you come across the name a codename because the bureau did have bogus company set up in new york. Yes one of those companies was called Home entertainment systems that electronics store. That rufo had claimed the fbi was using to track soviet nationals. Who were craving the latest t. b.'s and stereo systems. I know the name home. Entertainment systems name rings show to me and been describing it accurately in terms of the purpose. Yes somewhat Would he's making it more sophisticated than it actually was. It was an effort to garner Kind of a favoritism with at the time soviets at the united nations they longed for equipment High tech equipment. I asked blah why the fbi might turn to someone like rufo. What possible purpose could he and his computer business serve. If you're gonna put an operation together you needed backstopping legitimate backstopping where Because you're going as a covert operative. You're going to be an associate of a company and you have to have enough backstopping from the top of that company that you won't be exposed when people start asking hard questions so that was always being sought by the bureau. I was scanning through. Diaries as we spoke. And i noticed something. I should say because i just caught my out of the corner of my eye when he referenced as you in his diary he says that you used an alias. John brinkley does that sound right. That's right so he knew he didn't know what he was start knows he knows what the aliases word. Everything i was curious if blah might recall anything about rufus claim of luring a soviet national to a yankees game. What was the name of the national. Does he know i read to him. Vladimir's full name which i'm not including here. Don't name means nothing to me. And and he claims here. And i'm curious about this. Because of what later happened that the supervisor on that operation was earl pitts holy so he saying that he had a connection to earl pitts. Who obviously Committed treason Oh my god. This is more involved alvin. I could ever imagine. Thought occurred to me as i was talking to blah if john russo really was making contact with the russians could they have helped him when he suddenly desperately needed to get out of the country. He left obviously from kennedy airport. That's the way he got outta here because he's in. His car was found at kennedy airport. Okay but nobody knows how he left. Little sneaky son of a gun. Well when when you have technical capabilities. I don't i don't see him having a network where he could go to someone and say. I need a phony set of id bolt together for. I don't think he could. I don't think he had that kind of connection this This was a to me a low low And player he wasn't he wanted to be bigger than he was. He wanted to see more important than he was But you have to be You have to work in some pretty murky water. The be able to context say pulled together a passport. Bogus passport and id form anything as an expert on computers. Somebody for the soviets he may have. Yeah i mean that's a possibility. I think we both knew. This was veering into very speculative territory. The point you bring out about russia's interesting though.
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"You sorta ghost now as changqing katie dug deeper into the list of retirement account holders. They were increasingly convinced. Something wasn't right for starters. Two of the supposed- employees had social security numbers. That were in sequential order. Oh yeah that one zero three two one in the slow three to to come on. Because that's what was. That's how i'd make up with virtual on one. Two three eighty said she wondered if this might be part of some other rufo scheme or may be these. Social security numbers were part of his escape plan. We went on the run. I would say i would lean toward stats on run money right good point but he could also that entire time he could have been driven money into an account for going run right. Chris realize the names on these bizarre accounts for people who died decades ago. Yeah versus that's something you'd find in a for both of those. Actually the date of birth is an eighteen year. Old people were getting computers. Cert- 401k hank. Continued digging into these. Two names many turned his computer around to show the others what he had found the. And if you the sit there oh. These recipients of retirement money from john rufus company who both appeared to be long dead when the payments were made now appeared to be living in a million dollar home in north carolina and the name of the street. Sheffield lame nice house. Yeah i wouldn't mind living in that interesting for somebody who has social security number associated with him in that account. That's from dead person. It was obviously used and the person she with obviously has another social security number associated with. Yeah the man. Seven thousand square foot home by drive onto strike. The gold lane was interrupted almost immediately by a high iron fence. This community of stately mansions was gated. So i pulled my rental car across the street alongside an empty lot and crossed over to the entrance. Did john rufo lived beyond that gate. All i could do was wait as cars approached and asked i. Hi my name is matthew moscow reporter with abc news. I'm doing a podcast about a long missing. Fugitive this man. I showed the driver the us marshal flyer with the age enhanced photo of rufo and there was a lead that put him on. Strike the gold lane. Which is i guess curious. Have you seen this man. Does he looked familiar to you. He does not doesn't look like somebody who lives here in the neighborhood. Now you seen this man. Does he look familiar to you. I have not never seen that person. Unfortunately okay i have not seen this person though. I don't doesn't look familiar earlier. No does not look kremlin binding. John rufo was not going to be as simple as this at this moment. Chris and danielle still believe the trail of money could point them in the right direction but as with everything else about a case this old and complex the hunt will not be easy. Do you guys have any sense of what you're learning or what you're able to learn from the finances. Are they complicated or they simple like. What's your sense so far. I'd say. I think chris will degrade their complicated. It's like every time they have more work ahead to see if these retirement funds maybe paid for rufo scape. There was one detail about those bogus accounts that did not escape. Chris and danielle's attention those long deceased account holders. They were italian owner. John rufo did board a flight. Jfk airport that day nineteen ninety eight. There was one destination at the top of his list. But how did he get out of the country and who might be able to help him. Rufo left behind his account of his secret government. Work the rufo diaries. That's from shady. That went on with the fbi and the us marshals develop a new lead from relatives of an old friend and so he says. Yeah i i. I think i know where he lives. So he knows what rufa. That's what he said next.
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"On the phone with fbi. Agent jack mullany keep tried to make sense of his fate. What i did. I'm not a bad guy. Legally still but i was wrong but i used to try to keep my not get into sub stupid. You didn't try to hurt anybody and you wanted to put this. Just get my life back on. Mullany one of the fbi agents who spent two years building the case against rufo said he also was stunned. Ed reiner's had done everything he could have asked from a witness while rufo stonewalled now the two men would receive nearly identical sentences. Mullany admits he wondered how had rufo pulled this off. I was devastated when they told me pleading now and going to get sentenced to the same amount. It made no sense to me. Something was going on there that we did not know about. If there were clues about what convinced prosecutors to cut a deal with rufo rather than forge ahead with a trial that might yield a bigger sentence and send a stronger message. They might be somewhere in the files. That judd burstein it used to prepare rufus defense in those file boxes at his suburban home. You could see. He had collected volumes of material. So this is all stuff that would have been presented in court the financials and the shoe yet into stuff before leading me look at them bursting carefully. Peace to the files to remove anything that might be marked classified but what remains she said would make it clear. Obviously there was something going on with the russians. Okay classify a a lot of that was classified on the other hand. You can assume that has a responsible lawyer if there was stuff in there that i thought really contradicted. The the underlying defense have gone forward with certain. As i began to look through the files i saw. There was a letter from federal prosecutors. They were responding to bursting demands for records of rufus. Were for the fbi. They wrote that. They had to remove quote certain symbol references file numbers codenames and code words from pertinent rufo files. I defense was real. He was plainly doing stuff for the russian because they were still so many questions. Why for instance had bursting files included copies of the criminal. Indictment of earl pitts. That was the guy. Linda mentioned to me. Who's prosecution was being led by one of the very same lawyers working the rufo case. There is a limit in terms of what i can tell you. What did any of this have to do with projects star. Prosecutors argued nothing in one filing marked as unclassified. They asked the judge to block burstein from raising it. All they said quote mr rufo cannot bootstrap his past totally unrelated knowledge of classified. Fbi foreign intelligence initiative to his defense in court the prosecutors went even further about rufus worked for the fbi one prosecutor said if ever deemed relevant to this case. I will eat those files still now. It was clear rufo's boasts about secret government work. They were not all puffery berry. Bo rate suspected it. All along in the fbi was was basically. I wouldn't say using him or he was using them but they were working together. There was more in those old files. Federal investigators had drilled into rufo's finances and everything reiner's had been saying emerged in black and white rufa was not just running one con project star. He was operating a web of other schemes to an array of corporate. Shell companies. you definitely knew he was doing. I mean he was. He was a good criminal bombing he was it was a swindler. The department of justice tracked one of the firms called our in our cim group to an account in switzerland another entity worldwide regional exports was selling shipments of diapers in russia and investing in turkish. I glass company yet. Another firm sand lean leasing company appeared to have an office in puerto rico. Linda later helped me make sense of some of the company names he used like one called linen systems signing systems. Did you ever in your linda in so they use my name surname than the an but what was he doing with them or does companies. And we're we're all these companies really based the feds tracked one of them to a mailbox at grand central station and another to a small rental space on fifth avenue called prime office centers. The one base there was purported to run by. Bruce gregory that mysterious partner ed reiner's had heard about the receptionist said prime office centers told the fbi. She remembered bruce gregory and she described him stocky all ding five foot. Five with a mustache and glasses. The agents showed her a photo array and she spotted him right away. Bruce gregory was john rufo jack. Mullany told me he'd never seen anything like it. I think if believed he was a secret. Agent deception was everywhere when the fbi went to interview a supposed- business partner of rufo's a man who went by robert skains. They found another fake. An old friend of reiner's name wayne wayne told them he took five hundred bucks to pose as robert atkins.
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"Ninety-seven just two weeks until christmas. And the man who knew john rufo so well was locked up at the petersburg correctional facility in virginia. Ed brynner's was feeling the sting of his first holiday behind bars by that deadly set twelve hours decorating the house upside hundred recorded line from a prison phone. He talked wistfully with a friend about what he would be doing.
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"With a whole lot. There was another intriguing tip in the rufo case. It started with a program to link up marshals with people in the nation's financial sector especially those involved handling money transfers. I had sent out a lead. Basically a wanted poster with information on john rufo Through the international bankers association that went every bank in the country in some overseas banks. And that's when we got the call about the bank in duncan oklahoma that this guy had been in there and this person thought it was john russo. The bank teller said a man came in looking to move a large amount of money out of the country. He was going to give him the wiring information. All that after that person had been into the bank. This alert went out and in the bank or saw the picture of roof. Was that guy that was in here. John taylor held onto the man's address in oklahoma so berry and his partner rob flew out to check on the lease at you know we fall at him and he went into the store and rob and i went into the store with both walked into the store. And and you know listen the guy talk and then we confronted him afterwards. We're like this isn't this isn't him. And we started talking guy ended up being from detroit and told us about his background. A we verified at all. We checked it all out. There were other tips that came in some easily dispensed with like a prison snitch. Who swore he knew roofs whereabouts. He was lying and a man and florida who was just craving attention but some lead seemed more tantalizing like a private investigator working for the banks. Who told the marshalls. He had placed rufo at a casino in the dominican republic apparently flanked by two sex workers. They sent deputies after that lead but found instead a canadian man whose credentials checked out where way back there but that guy eating the hot dog at the dodger game at one was different. It took only one look at the footage to see that this man did very much resemble rufo but who was he. Deputy pat valdemar walked me through the steps. He took to try an unwind. The mystery so i called it up. Stir and The tester say a family member so someone who would not only be familiar with the case but very familiar with how john looks not someone just looking at a picture and comparing it with another picture but someone who spent time with job did he say maybe this john rufo or how certain was this person who is watching the the ball game. He was pretty certain at the same time. Pat sent the video footage to the us marshals facial recognition team to study against images. They already had of the fugitive. So while i'm doing my leg work that's also happening at the same time. So that saw the next move is to go to dodger. Stadium and talk to the security dr security staff and Figure out a way to find the exact seat. And i spoke with one of the managers there and we walked onto the field and Just he met with michelle derringer. She works full time for the baseball club. Solving all sorts of risk and security issues. i called her to ask about the day. The marshalls reached out. So where do you start with something like that. They have this image. They say we think this could be our guy. We've been looking for him for years. And here's this guy sitting in a seat behind home plate at the dodger game right so we're able to track that exact seat location. And then what do you do next. So normally you would take that seat as well as other seats adjoining on each side may be in front or in back but usually it's if you look at. There's i believe four people in that area that we're all talking to one. Another are seem to have been together will then take if we can usually were able to track back and identify who purchased those tickets If they were derringer provided the marshalls with a name the president of a large equipment company based in l. a. Who had bought seats for more than one hundred games each season and not just any seats the seats and i'll have the information about the tech is got companies. Got money But does he know. John rueful the scene or the john roof was a fugitive so i can't just approach him and say. Hey you bought the stake. It's who's this guy. What stops you from just immediately going to him. The what's the risk. While the risk is if he has a close relationship with rueful and hit tips him off gotta slow down sometimes and take a breath and say okay. This person bought the ticket. And i gotta dumas background. The who this person is hat pulled together. A team to conduct surveillance on the man's house. They waited and they watched. This was a rich person. You rich neighborhoods so big house. You can easily have a from so we surveillance Talked to some neighbors. Make sure that they have not seen Someone resembling john john rueful. We have wanted posters on the case once he was comfortable that the man had no ties to rufo he knocked on the door and this is where things started getting tricky. The man had sold some of his tickets and given away others to his best customers had had him look back through his calendar. It looked like the seats went to a top client. The owner of an electrical company so pat branched out his efforts again. Only this owner had done the same thing given his tickets away. So this cases is is snowball. Line a little bit. You're you've now got a bunch of names to chase. What do you do how do you. How do you tackle that You do one at a time. He's just started going after this Descended vigils doing your background gaining and fontham and they start you start getting information back One of a miss. Al new one to one game and wasn't that game Other parsons. I couldn't go so i gave the ticket to someone else by the person ended up giving some of the tickets back to equipment or the personal gave it to him because he just did not have time now. The person said that. I wanted a game but again. That's that's not the game so he starts eliminating a b. one then there's also people that was in that seat that seemingly simple question was mushrooming into a chain reaction event. Pat hit pause. He asked the initial owner. Make a list of everyone. He gave tickets to that season. So it comes up with a list. And i am interviewing dispersants. The ones that said. I gave the ticket to someone else doesn't other list. The number of possible ticket holders kept growing soon hat near the end of his list. A just as he did he heard back from the agency's facial recognition team facial recognition. Technology is an exactly as it appears on popular tv shows with computers sifting through images from surveillance cameras and landing on a match in this case the suspect at age twenty years since his last photo so the chances of finding a perfect match were slim. Pat told me the results were disappointing. Discount back.
Have You Seen This Man?
"john rufo" Discussed on Have You Seen This Man?
"It is alleged that pits spied for russian intelligence and later gave classified material. One thing was becoming increasingly clear. John rufo was not your typical fugitive in the years before his arrest john rufo was taking soviet officials to new york yankees games but after he fled. Could this affinity for baseball. Be his undoing. After the break his right hand she was the darling of silicon valley magazine. Cover after magazine cover but now accused of massive fraud. She faces decades in prison if convicted and continues to maintain her innocence. This is not a product that didn't work. I'm rebecca jarvis and for more than five years. My team and i have been following the case of elizabeth homes and we're here to guide you through every development of her trial from new evidence presented in court to hell. The jury might react to her new life. The dropout elizabeth homes on trial begins august. Thirty first wherever you get your podcasts pitcher bookie drills field.
Perspective
"john rufo" Discussed on Perspective
"They're asking their employees to do from tech too big hospitals. Two banks and restaurants. Many businesses across the country are now demanding. Employees get vaccinated companies like facebook. Google twitter uber and disney the parent company of abc news are doing just that joe foss zula longtime co of guarantees supermarkets in scranton. Pa says he's encouraging his employees to get vaccinated but he isn't mandating. It's up to them to make that decision. And with case rates remaining low in his area he says a mandate for his small business isn't necessary. I don't want to put them in this position of having to decide whether or not and want to continue their employment attorney jessica leasees in-person workers in a unique position. Everything is a lot easier for office. Workers people who can do their work from home than it is for folks who are in customer facing fields dealing with the public. There's one important legal wrinkle only approved vaccines can be mandated by law. The food and drug administration has sped up its timetable for approving pfizer biotechs vaccine. Dr ouchi is one who believes that the change in classification will change behavior. You're going to see more universities colleges places of business who once they get the cover of an officially approved vaccine. they're going to start mandating. Vaccines economic standpoint. It is clear that if americans do not feel comfortable in their surroundings they tend to spend less money outside their homes. Consumer spending is two thirds of us economic activity and there are broad implications for the pace of the economic recovery based on how consumers spent for abc news. I'm deirdre bolton in new york. How does someone just disappear especially someone accused of a crime is serious stealing hundreds of millions of dollars. That's the question being asked once again and the abc news podcast. Have you seen this man. The views sunny halston introduces us to him. His name was john rufo. The crime he committed was outlandish. They said he was one of the biggest conman of the century. No one thought he would run the next thing. I know i get a phone call. Whereas roof and now more than two decades later the mystery has yet to be solved. Wear and who is john rufo. Abc news senior investigative producer. Matthew mosque follows up season. One the search for a convicted killer named lester eubanks season to the search for a man named john. Rufo madda spent the last year researching this story. It's his voice. You hear the most on the podcast. So who is john rufo. he's a conman swindler. And the story in season two is both about how he got away but also about how little anybody really knew of who he was and we peel the onion layers back and learn all kinds of things we never expected. What did he do. he engineered what at at one. Time could be considered one of the largest bank frauds in history. He formed a partnership with a former employee of the philip morris tobacco company and they claimed to be on a secret mission to develop smokeless tobacco for philip morris and they went to banks with a very believable prospectus and business plan and over time before they were found out they stole three hundred and fifty three million dollars from banks around the world. He pleaded guilty to nine. Hundred hundred ninety eight and got a seventeen year prison sentence. But how does somebody like that simply. Just walk away and disappear. After his sentencing he was being remanded into custody handcuffs placed on him and he is being walked to jail. That's it but something happens and the judge says a hold on just a minute. The judge like so many others had before him decided to trust john rufo and with the family homes as collateral. He agreed to let them remain free until the day came for rufo to report to prison. And so he he got away with it that weighs on the heart of these investigators. Doesn't it one of the things that you do get a real window into is just how hard it is to be on a case like this and not just the the marshals who are on the case now but we talked to the marshals who had control of this case. Some of these guys are retired and they never forget. This is the one that got away they know all the detail of what the marshalls are doing. Even now because they don't wanna go to their grave. Not knowing where this guy went where john russo round up. I think what makes him. The most interesting fugitive. I've ever heard about is that he is a perfect candidate to slip away multiple identities his his ability to hide money ingenious with documents all kinds of things that make him just a very hard guy to catch but we really hope people are listening to the podcast. Go on the website. Look at the videos and the photographs. In all likelihood. John rufo is hiding somewhere in plain sight under a different name just waiting to be recognized. Okay we'll matthew mosque appreciated. It's have you seen this man. The second season from abc news audio. And it's the search for john rufo appreciate. It's great to talk to you. thank you from. Abc news this has been perspective. Thanks for listening. If you wanna listen to any of our past shows you can subscribe to the prospective podcast. Give us a review. If you've got the time tell us what you like. And what you'd like to hear in the future you can find it on apple podcasts spotify stitcher or wherever you listen to your podcast you can also find perspective and other. Abc news shows et abc. News podcasts dot. Com perspective is produced by eric malo. Abc news. i'm cheri preston..
Have You Seen This Man?
"john rufo" Discussed on Have You Seen This Man?
"Tip scratched off their list. Chris and danielle returned to the rufo rome. They began waiting deeper and deeper into records from one of the biggest swindles in u. s. history. I'm thinking how the hell did they get away with this. John rufo had a dazzling plan to convince the country's largest banks to hand over hundreds of millions of dollars and he was able to sell it. Vat trust that believability. That was the foundation of this entire scam and they played at master. They masters at it next time on. Have.
Have You Seen This Man?
"john rufo" Discussed on Have You Seen This Man?
"Staying informed has never been more important. Information is coming at us faster than ever. So how do you make sense of. It'll start here. hey. I'm brad mielke from abc news. In every weekday we will break down the latest headlines in just twenty minutes straightforward reporting dynamic interviews and analysis from experts. You can trust always credible always solid start here from abc news twenty minutes every weekday on your smart speaker or your favorite podcast app. It's a quiet spring morning in suburban virginia. And i'm in the backseat of a nondescript minivan with tinted windows. Deputy marshals chris lure and daniel schimdt. Check our stakeout. their mission. fine. John rufo crisis latte pretty much. Yeah because it's hard. I mean this is robot robot like a little robot. You can drive around with a camera case. You've got a giant pots. Jason is weapon of a rifle today. Shield of yep so Ballistic shield matthew person. Danielle don't think they'll need that kind of firepower. But they're always ready. This turned out to be rufa. You'd wait for other people though. We were not do this alone but if you had you. Had you got what you need. I hope we can outrun. Look that fast. But you'd be surprised sometimes but we do have We have a for their freedom right at any one time there are hundreds of fugitives wanted by law enforcement. The us marshals are in charge of finding them. Then there's a small group of special cases the fugitives who've been so hard to find. They need extra attention. These cases get priority status. They get more resources. Bigger awards like john rufus case. Chris and danielle had been in pursuit of rufo for almost three years now. Much of the work is painstaking. Reconstructing financial records analyzing personal habits and traits and mapping his contacts. But the two deputies also follow up on every possible sighting. No matter how. Flimsy the tip may seem. Today they're looking into a tip. That came into headquarters in arlington virginia. So what is the origin of this guy. We're going to take a look at. What's where did he come from. So he came from one of the inspectors have been headquarters Sent us this tip and our redo it the tips. I've served a guy who looks very similar to rufo at a store. I'm going to give us address Who's in the Couple times and when he found interesting was The guy fit the physical descriptions of rebel heavy new york accent. Same height and weight goes. You can't just ignore that like yeah and we're not gonna ignore any that comes through and what was interesting about it was it came from you know an inspector so somebody who somebody who's like not a lay person right. Who would maybe just say. Oh well and send us a bogus tip like a tip. We got last week was. Oh hey we see rufo. he's in kansas. The guy six foot something. It's likely not rufo paid. You're allowed can rule out pretty quickly just by digging like the one. We got last week where he was in. Kansas danielle's probably spent a couple of hours on the computer and was able to find a driver's license photo of the individual. And we did not need to investigate that. Further buds kristen. Danielle had arrived an hour earlier to stake out the location. It's a small store in a suburban strip mall selling mattresses recliners and easy chairs. Actually as i was kind of pulling into the parking lot at about nine fifteen is pretty easy to identify individual which this tip was about. Did he look like roof food. You he does. He's the same. He's the same height and we have our capabilities of advanced. When we're out in know when we're out in the field out on the street we can obtain driver's license photos on our phones. Depending on state so I always able to identify the individual saw where he parked and based off vehicle information Was able to identify him and so we do. So we know the individual is from new york. He is five foot three revival four. He has a very italian name You hold photo side by side which is always interesting to do so. That's not a bad. That's a pretty decent lead so you know the one in kansas. We looked at it. I quietly enter the story behind them. The salesman's smile melts away as they explain. They're not looking for furniture. He does look like rufo lightly as possible. They asked the man if they can scan his fingerprints..
Have You Seen This Man?
"john rufo" Discussed on Have You Seen This Man?
"Matthew mosque a senior investigative reporter at abc. I started looking into this story last year. I'm outside the powell. federal courthouse in downtown richmond. It's an old imposing building made of italian stone with a distinctive red tile roof. The courthouse sits in the shadow of the gleaming. Virginia state capital. It was here in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight then rumpled new yorker just five foot four pleaded guilty to a raft federal charges. And it was here where a uniform. Us marshall stood ready to put him in handcuffs. So what's your name kevin trillium. Okay so how do you fit in all heaven. You start your at the very beginning. I am the beginning of all. I'm the beginning of. And then i started. Trillion is retired now but he still retains disarming charm. He's honed it over years of calmly leading stunned defendants off to prison. He remembers seeing john rufo trembling in his seat waiting for a judge to hand down his sentence. He was shaking at that point because he didn't think at that day he was going to go to jail and at that castilian took me inside to see where it all took place. So in the courtroom that day we had the government and all of their case agents sitting to the right to the left was defended giambra info. That day judge was on the bench. Sinaga offers we're in and the criminal clark The courtroom was rather filled with people. A lotta media coverage also at one table set a team of federal prosecutors over at the defense table was brash. Young lawyer on the rise. Jeffrey lichtman lichtman men had already represented the infamous mob boss. John gotti junior and would one day represent the murderous drug lord known as l. Chapo but on this day. His client was meek. Computer salesman he was unmemorable. He wore chunky rimmed glasses and some compared him to the sitcom sidekick george costanza. Who are you george costanza. The opposite of every guy. You've met john. Rufo pleaded guilty for his part in what was then one of the biggest bank fraud cases in history an elaborate scheme in which he and a partner stole three hundred and fifty million dollars. He was forty four at the time and the crime seemed well beyond the imagination of someone who looked so ordinary but then again no one really knew rufo. This bank scam would not be the last time. He was underestimated his lawyer. Jeffrey lichtman and i spoke over zoom about that day. You do this long enough. Your brain starts to get a little soft on details that don't matter on the stuff that was amazing. I can remember this case like it was yesterday which was funny when i read your email. Simple note whatever you can remember dude. I remember the color tie wearing. He remembers what rufo looked like shrinking in his seat as he awaited his sentence. It was a computer. He was the guy that count comes to your office when your computer rates. I mean he had a mustache. She was happy said he was short. Balding by usually with these computer nerds the come to your office. We spend a few minutes with them and actually speak to them. You find that. They're actually really smart and really interesting. Funny and John was not funny or interesting. That day i can tell you that i liked him. He was good natured and there was something roguish about him despite his nerd of visage. Because look what he had done and it was like this really alcee something. You'd never expect from it. I don't look like that now. that morning. Lichtman and his client had flown down to richmond from new york for the sentencing hearing. He should have been rufo's final hours of freedom because whatever sense he got it was customary for the defendant to be remanded to custody right than in there. But that's not what happened so now the good stuff We go down to virginia now. This this part i remember. Well i made what. I considered to be a pretty impassioned plea basically saying you're putting the government's asking for ridiculous amount of time. His client was facing a stiff sentence up to twenty five years for what was a massive bank fraud. I said you know. What are you going to give the rapists. What are you going to give a killer so we had a very tough judge who i liked instantly like it was solid of a my cousin. Vinny moment my cousin vinny you know the fish out of water comedy with the hard bitten new yorker trying to argue before a genteel southern judge to to utes to what. Oh what was that word. What were to. What what. I had gone to school south for seven years but you know certain people that go to school in the south for seven years south does not stick the never stopped to make. This judge was rough. The sentence imposed seventeen years for john. Rufo this is a guy who was not very healthy was not in great shape and who's not really cut out of britain and they're pulling him out of the courtroom and his head is down. He's got sick animal. Kevin trevelyan was the marshall on duty that day his job to put handcuffs on rufo and take him into custody. Put him in. Handcuffs in a hit was walking him out of the courtroom. And all of a sudden. I heard in judge williams. Very distinct voice. Hold on marcia. Kevin so i stopped. I turn around. Attorney started arguing arguing and it was and he said well take the handcuffs off of them. So i took the handcuffs off of lichtman beseeched the judge to allow his client to stay out on bail rufo and already been out on ten million dollars bail for over a year. His family back in new york had put up all of their homes as collateral. Trevelyan remembers the judge pondering this and then turning to rufo and then judge agreed and said as long as you promised to report and jam i said yes and data hundred percent. I will be there. The judge like so many others had before him decided to trust john rufo and with the family homes as collateral. He agreed to let them remain free until the day came for rufo to report to prison as for lichtman he still remembers leaving court with rufo. They had a flight to catch from richmond. Back to new york john and way to the airport and i remember tiny john in the car. This is the kind of things thirty-three-year-old lawyer sometimes should keep things to yourself and you know save what's in your in your drain. I said boy. I'm sure i have no idea how to get back to the airport. We both my one person still stunned. By the court's decision is the woman who had been rufo's wife for twenty six years. Linda even the marshals told me that it's almost unheard of that. A person would be sentenced to that lengthy sentence and be allowed to turn themselves in alone knowing what a high risk. He was a flight risk. I recently drove to linda's home on staten island. Over the past year we've had a series of conversations about rufus case. She was at the door with her daughter. Natalie and their dog martha when i pulled in this guy. Linda small woman with dark hair. And as you'll hear. She still carries the accent from the old neighborhood in the outer boroughs of new york. Even though she's remarried and has a teenage daughter she still gets emotional talking about her first husband. I didn't want to go on. I didn't want to face everything.
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Have You Seen This Man?
"john rufo" Discussed on Have You Seen This Man?
"On a brisk day november. One thousand nine hundred ninety eight. A doughy balding computer salesman from brooklyn was supposed to report to prison to begin a seventeen year sentence. He rented a ford taurus and drove to queens to turn in his ankle monitor then he took six hundred dollars out of an atm. Headed to jfk airport and vanished. His name was john rufo. The crime he committed was outlandish. They said he was one of the biggest conman of the century. His life was a hall of mirrors. He's got a picture a roof out with the new york swat team and the assistant director of the fbi. His three hundred fifty three million dollar fraud left a trail of trauma in. its wake. no one thought he would run the next thing. I know i get a phone call. Whereas roof up and now more than two decades later the mystery has to be solved. Where and who is john. Rufo i'm sunny house with. Abc news over the past year. A team from the abc news. Investigative unit joined the search for john rufo following the us marshals as they uncovered surprising new leads in a global manhunt. So i get a call in the middle of the night. And she's like. I know we're john. It's from behind home plate at dodger stadium. So we're able to track nat exact seat. Location to the adriatic coast keeping my thirteen. Nine dollars gets you a long way. The us marshals are trying to solve one of the most stubborn fugitive cases in american history. Now they may be closer than ever from. Abc news this is. Have you seen this man. Follow now and join the manhunt for john. Rufo on august.