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"john birch society" Discussed on Behind the Bastards
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"john birch society" Discussed on Behind the Bastards
"All over you literally. We're all nodding like sure very stoic. Nod yes fight the ocean at that could the that could go in the don'ts of the art of salesmanship right there. I think Yeah i would have started john birch society. That's just themed at getting people to fight. The ocean fight various forms of nature. Yeah mostly oceans. Punch trees water. All of john birch was preaching. Was good enough to earn his society. The membership of one of my favorite bastards pod characters. Phyllis schlafly she and her husband. Some guy joined in nineteen fifty nine. So yeah that's good. Phyllis schlafly gonna bark at that. Closest chef schlafly shleifer a as as we used to call ourselves not on the left squad. Nah so that same year. Same schlafly and her husband joined the john birch society. Robert welsh launched a crusade to recall newly installed supreme court justice earl warren justice warren was a liberal who had written the majority opinion for a decision that overruled state and local segregation laws. We're talking brown versus board of education. Yeah robert welsh did not like brown versus the board of education. Not not wild about the fact that black people got to go to the same schools as white people and welches is earl warren's opinion on this case meant that he was a communist. Welsh insisted in letters that warren had violated his oath and he harangued his most gifted followers to turn the effort to recall the justice into a movement privately. Welsh wrote that frankly with the left wing control now so strong in cities and ubiquitous in washington. I am not deceiving myself that we have very much chance of really bringing about the impeachment of warren. Although we might. But i don't think that is really as important as dramatizing to the whole country where he stands where the supreme court now constituted under him stands and how important. It is to face the facts about the road. We are now traveling on so fast. So it's really interesting to me. Because in all of his public like publications he makes it clear that this is a real effort to recall era war. And and i think we have a real shot. And we're going to get this guy out of the supreme court and his private letters. He's like we're never going to do this. It's all about making people angry about the rhetoric. It's about who show up the fight. Yeah which is not like anything else. That's happened since. I know a lot of size on this episode. Passed in the future compared. So you get a feel for bob welch by reading his letters. I'm going to read you now. An excerpt from when he sent to t coleman andrews. Who's the commissioner of the irs. Start with screen. I mean kind of it begins with what i hear. Out of all of this writing the letter begins with welches regret. That andrews turned down an opportunity to spearhead the effort against what welsh refers to in all caps as the movement to impeach warren. He calls it that in all caps every time he types about it. He's a guy. Twitter is or not on the supreme court anymore. Is i think he's dead at this. I was gonna say because you gotta go for him. I you know he's your guy. So yeah he starts by being like it's a bummer. That you don't want to help me impeach warren He goes on to discuss gathering storms in the south which is a reference to the civil rights movement Which bob welch stated he thought was directly caused by the communist party quote if blood does flow there which i agree is entirely likely it will definitely be because the communists planned it that way. They have schemed for so long to be in position to fan little fires of civil disorder into huge conflagration of civil war. If and when they need such a horror in their moves to take over and john birch. Though a minister devoted a piece was entirely ready to fight for a cause which he considered worthy of sacrifice so devoted to peace voted to piece. This guy something. He's he's referring to john birch who he did in saying we have to be like john birt devoted a peace but was willing to get into a drunken argument with communist soldiers. Get shot to death. That sounds like most right wing. Heroes like arnold travis. He was drunk He may have been drunk on malaria. I'm just assuming everyone. He's just wasted at all times. That's a good idea. John birch handed earl warren. That is actually a little known fact and found that in right okay nonsense. Yeah so welsh portrayed. The john birch society is work not as partisan activism but as an attempt to unite all americans under an anticommunist banner in nineteen. Sixty issue of the bulletin. He wrote it is of vital importance to the communists to split americans into all kinds of groups snarling at each other and so he said the society would not seek the split up. americans we are fighting communists period. Nobody else they put people into all these groups. And i don't think we should have black people jewish people chinese people liberals the lgbtq community. I don't think we should have any of those people. Those specific groups that i have chosen to deny as people see after evil. Yeah they're dividing us by people who aren't like it. Yeah exactly so. Yeah welsh by the mid nineteen fifties had grown increasingly. Convinced that the entire. Us government was basically communists all the way down and one of the main triggers for this was when congress voted to censure jr senator joe mccarthy in nineteen fifty four So he like on time by the way out right on time they got to quick. So yeah because eisenhower was a big part of finally censoring. Joe mccarthy after leading joe mccarthy joe mccarthy for years welsh saw this as more evidence that i was a secret communist hittings kind of on the wall all the signs. Are there if you're looking he. After justice to whole red scares he stepped in so the politician. Welch's book about ike remained largely a secret work. He circulated among his most loyal inner circle. He handed out to lake leaders in the movement but regular members didn't get to know it was kind of like zeno like when you get high enough up in the birch society word that eisenhower's a communist welsh noted about his book and one private letter quote are rather extreme precautions with regards to this document or not due to any worry on my part as to what might happen to myself but many of my best informed friends feel that having the manuscript get into the wrong hands at the present time might do far more damage than good to the whole anticommunist. 'cause it's it's alex jones. I mean in. Alex jones as a little bit of a spoiler was Grew up on john birch material so not a coup winky dink so for the berkshire rank and file. Eisenhower was just a crooked politician. Who was much too friendly with foreign leaders. At one point nineteen sixty. Ike agreed to attend a summit with nikita khrushchev british prime minister harold macmillan and french president charles de gaulle welsh considered all three of these men to be card carrying communists. Go which with khrushchev spare but to go to go to communist to do rituals and dates and remember. I mean he was pretty problematic and a lot of ways himself but communist is not an accurate is very limited. So as mcmillan for that matter. Yeah so well-considered again all these guys to be communist. And he had the john birch society. Sunday heavily publicized. Message to president eisenhower. If you go don't come back. Exploded was sent out in a blizzard. You'll be exiled hanging out with famous communist. Charles de gaulle. If you go what a great threat you go to that meeting conference room your so. The slogan was santana blizzard of postcards letters and telegrams and within the society it was actually quite controversial since many new were not as irrational as the group's founder nationwide sparked curiosity for this strange semi underground organization. One curious individual was jack mabley an investigative reporter and columnist for the chicago daily news so hey hometown hero yeah mabley. It's technically candyman. Is.
"john birch society" Discussed on Behind the Bastards
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And i had to like defend the continued existence of human civilization. I think i could do a pretty good job until they brought up clips from that show. I couldn't defend us from like war crimes charges and stuff but not not that. Here's this guy who is on the radio giving medical advice to teens for twenty years He's dressed like a hippopotamus singing song. Poorly yeah you know. What a great. Oh what are what. are you gonna use a virus. Big lasers like just just just do it. Just be quick about it. If the first questions aliens ask is was. Sean spicer a good dancer. We're going to be in real trouble there. But you know who wasn't on the masked singer. Sean spicer robert bob welch's although he would've hated that show evidence of a communist conspiracy brought out so bob welch's appetite had been you know pretty sufficiently stirred by the nineteen fifties and again he had kind of climbed as high as the candy industry would get him so like what you see. In the late forties is he reaches the the heights that candyman can hit and he immediately starts screaming about how communists are going to have infiltrated. The democratic party are going to destroy democracy Isn't that lease a normal career. Check is yeah. The problem is that eminem mars was run guy marxist collectivists because he didn't have a wonka vader you know he could only go. I'm gonna make so many more fucking willie wonka reference. I predict you will. Oh it's not that. I do not have trouble. Seeing bob. welch is a lot like willy. Wonka on us. Because i think they both believe business owners should be able to kill children young. I agree then slave people. Yes he is. So bob welsh you know in the nineteen fifties starts getting way more into politics now. It's unclear precisely when his terror left began again. When you read this guy's background the stuff that wasn't just written. By the john birch society decades later it kind of comes out of left field like he's just a candyman and then boom. He's screaming about the new dark ages But however it started. It was in full form by july of nineteen fifty when he wrote this in a fundraising letter for a politician quote. The strategy of the socialist. Divide and conquer carlo businessman crooks so that nobody will speak up for them and strangle them with controls and taxation bribe all the farmers with their own money into a selfish pressure group for more. Bribes infiltrate the labor unions and convert them into political tools. Discredit the medical profession until the rest of the public clamours for government medicine attack every segment of our population with tactics with which alienate the support of all other segments the forces on the socialist side amount to a vast conspiracy to change our political and economic system. Your face changed. You went deep into that channel. Bob dark there's a lot i love their including the that socialists were going to discredit the medical profession. In order to convince people to demand government medicine was like no vice buddy with discredited. The medical profession was people going to the er and getting a forty thousand dollar bill for a three hour visit. That'll do it. Yeah there are two ways to go on on that thought process goes so this was the first time bob welsh use the word conspiracy in public statement and it would not be the last tragically. Welches increasingly unhinged rants about socialism did not translate into success at the ballot box. Probably because a lot of americans in nineteen fifty directly in recently benefited from massive social welfare projects. You actually feel the effects of government working for you and you're like oh maybe this isn't an evil thing you know and then yeah but millions of us didn't starve because of the civilian conservation roger bad conspiracy to be honest is the conspiracy that we didn't starve to death during the depression. Because i liked that. Yeah that was a good one. Yeah so yeah. He lost the race for lieutenant governor by margin of more than one hundred thousand votes which nineteen fifty was like most of the country with inflation ten million votes. Yeah so it was not a close election still. It is worth noting that nearly sixty thousand americans had cast their votes for. Bob welsh and his giant left wing conspiracy after his defeat. He wrote about his hopes that this core of supporters would in the next year's grow into quote a far stronger more militant and more effective force of political strength and other campaigns to come. He insisted this crusade has just started. Because it's always a good thing when right wing ideologues describe what they're doing is a crusade that that always really gets a white men all hot and bothered whenever you give them the opportunity to go on a crusade against Anybody who's not a white man so my motto jordan. Abc baby always be crusade. And that's what you gotta do singer..
"john birch society" Discussed on Behind the Bastards
"Terrify half the population if it pleases the hotdog who got. Oh god. i'm so sorry. Put take away my long coney in In the case of heinz versus the united states. He's going to have to recuse himself. I was so yes he cannot he could not want anything to do with the john. Kerry campaign frankfurter was a liberal supreme court justice which might explain. Why robert welsh so much welches biography which is quite a text says that the young robert welsh hated felix frankfurter because quote. The young man from north carolina. Recognized hogwash when he heard it and hogwash spelled in all caps and also spelled out with a dash in between each word. that's it's a fascinating That's a canterbury tales of bullshit. Right there yeah. Magnificent did someone who is with the john birch society right this biography. Oh yes absolutely yeah. They're sort of editorial style. Probably by bob welsh in nineteen twenty. Two welsh left harvard just a year before he would have graduated. He decided that he'd learned enough. And it was time to make a shitload of money and this wonder can had a specific plan for how he was going to get rich. The motherfucking candy business. Hell yeah hell. Yeah am candies. Where the money is man. You know that's the thing about candy. You get older. It stays at peeling the people of the same age. I don't know why tried to tried to tried two times that one. So bob's brilliant idea. Was something called the papa sucker the papa sucker the speaking of fast times jokes because it is what it sounds like. What would happen when you dad gets a blowjob but it was actually a caramel lollipop designed to not melt in the summer heat. That's what would happen if your dad got a blowjob straight and like your dad's penis it was filled with dangerous chemicals which is why it didn't melt in the summer heat. That's good stuff not a good to keep. You have take the rough with the smooth as they say. Dangerous chemicals it's not melting. Especially when it comes to your dad's genitals sure you take the rough with. This comes to fortunate fortunate. This is really gone on the rails. But they're not great rails. So despite the novelty of bob. Welches papa sucker. His first business named the oxford candy company did not go. Well the cause seems to have again been the fact that bob welsh did not play well with others. He had an increasing series of tents disagreements with his board of directors in nineteen twenty nine. They had a fight over what he described as their desire to reduce the quality of their products to improve. prophets welsh. Quit and again walked away. So we're getting a bit of a theme like everything. I wanna do is torture children for morality tales. He he just keeps getting into disagreements with people be they. His professors are his business partners. And then piecing the fuck out. That's that's early life. Bob welsh not an easy guy to get along with. So he's also not an easy guy to dissuade from his sacred task of selling candy. He set up another candy company. This one in berlin and money was tied Because he had a couple of kids by this point so he took a second job as a salesman for. Ej bracken sons which was one of the largest candy companies in the world. They're the people who make candy corn among other bracco. So they're it'll to. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah and their history's greatest. Monsters got corn pumpkin. They make candy pumpkin candy corn substances in a bunch of different shape. Oh yeah you mean. The little pumpkins that are made out of candy corn. Yes i do like the very specific term substance ever. It's made of which you don't know and it's just a substance so me and try to convince me that like candy. Pumpkins are better candy. Corn sucks candy. Pumpkins are good. No it's just more is saying it's a larger piece at the same terrible candidates. Just a ball you know. It is great i have this. There's this so. The person i lived with for a while is a is a chinese national in. She introduced me to this wonderful restaurant in portland. That's a chinese street food restaurant and have this dish that i'd never had before. That's just corn and fried batter and green onions cilantro. And it's fucking awesome. It's so good. Like i don't know how it's It's good incredible. But you know what. Bob welsh would really hate the idea of you living with japanese nationals. He would hate everything. As soon as i said chinese he would have started screaming. Ever the this head no. I convinced him. My friend was descended. From chiang kai shek he'd probably have been all right with that he was a big chang- head that way around. Yeah that'd be nation. Now dan leaving. Why are you running. I feel like you had that one in your head for years and then you horned it into a joke about changcai check because no if only. I'm tortured by new versions of that. Same shitty joke all day. Jordan's made the joke. Fifteen times on podcast. I've just edited out every time. Yeah you're wise to do so. This second candy company didn't work very well because it was the great depression and people didn't have disposable income for candy probably was a bad time to start a candy. Business nineteen twenty nine And his his new company fell. Apart in nineteen thirty-three fortunately bracks was still making money and he was doing well enough as a salesman that they took him on his full time employees which kept him afloat for the next year or so in one thousand nine hundred eighty four. He started his third candy company. The mid west candy company of attica indiana and unfortunately. His candy was as bad as his company's name and welches. Third enterprise failed. So he still papa suckers no he he had to give the leave the papa sucker behind when he had a fight with his business partner. So all the pompous the worst loss. That's the worst loss right there. He's not getting a dime for many of the poppas. That are getting sucked. These which is a real shame so yeah. Three failed candy companies and in nineteen thirty five. Bob welsh files for bankruptcy. Which is you know. Pretty on brand for him. It's the financial equivalent of like running away when you get into an argument. So so far everything. Scans he returns to boston. And he gets a job working for his younger brother who was also in the candy business and a lot more successful than his older brother. The o welch company was a success. And this is what finally brought. Robert welsh the wealthy desired. He was made. Vp in charge of sales and advertising and as the company grew this roberts spent years travelling across the country to offices in atlanta pittsburgh's houston los angeles and seattle. Now a wealthy man. He began racking up positions on government. Boards the boston chamber of commerce. The cambridge chamber of commerce and eventually a role is a national councillor for the us chamber of commerce is. Oh anything that is you into a right wing lunatic more than getting rich off of somebody else's work yeah especially breath sports yeah right regular right wing thing how. They all get to where they are. Go ahead sorry will just. He takes a lot of credit for the company's success but judging by the fact that he had three failed candy companies in only succeeded when he latched onto his brothers. I'm gonna guess. James was the talented the might be the case. Yeah yeah d- if i recall correctly. Didn't they make some like pretty like memorable candies. Yeah no the james o welch companies made some some of the group. All time great candies. They all sound weird. I think is yeah and they had some sort of weird sugary rope thing. i don't know they. They made a bunch of candy cows. Yeah it's not like it's not like the god fearing modern candy that we have today. It was all strange and terrifying and involve owns little nibbles those little. Cnn even sell kids something with horror in the name. Now it's just the social justice warriors. Yeah cancel coaches runamuck. And now we have our hor- hound candy.
"john birch society" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"Media and the Transformation of American Politics. Conservatives first toyed with a Republican, not a democracy slogan. In the late 19 thirties. The conservatives who were involved with the America First Committee, which was this committee founded in order to prevent the US from getting involved in World War two were somewhat affronted by Franklin Roosevelt, saying that the U. S needed to wage this war to defend democracy and the way that they pushed back against that appeal was to say, Well, wait a second. We're a republic, not a democracy. And so that's the first time you start to hear this as a kind of political slogan to fight back against rhetoric about American democracy. Then again in the early sixties, not only in the heart of the Cold War, but at a time when the Supreme Court was Codifying the bill of rights into court decisions toward a more liberal democracy. The John Birch Society's founder, Robert Welch, Declared. This is a republic, not a democracy. Let's keep it that way. What was he up to? Robert Welch was really opposed Teo the Liberal Justice Earl Warren's Supreme Court, in large part because the Supreme Court had ruled in 1950 for that schools could not be segregated. And then in the 19 sixties. What happens is the Warren Court begins to press for this idea of one person, one vote. And this was part of the same push that was going on in U. S Society for black voting rights and an opposition to both the principle of one person. One vote and to the protection of black voting rights was really driving the John Birch Society to oppose the expansion of voting rights, the sort of leveling of voting rights. And that was all contained in this slogan of a republic, not a democracy. The John Birchers supposed some of the more famous decisions of the Warren Court. You mentioned Brown versus Board of education. But there was also Reynolds V. Simms about the very question of one person. One vote. What were the details of that decision, and what effect did it have on the nature of American democracy? So you had state legislatures where districts were determined by geography by things like counties, which led to a more Senate like form of representation, where very small population counties had the same political power is very large population counties and the Supreme Court intervened and said, You know what? That's not fair That's not representative and ordered that state legislatures Decide their districting on the basis of population. It was a really important moment of putting some behind this idea of one person, one vote. I can remember when the John Birch Society was regarded as a kind of lunatic fringe of reactionary thought, now its positions or more or less mainstream conservatism. What was its solution at the time for an activist court. So their first solution was to impeach Chief Justice Earl Warren. That was the big rally and cry on the right in the early 19 sixties. But then it became part of a broader conservative project to get more conservative justices on the Supreme Court. Now that was clearly a much longer term project, But that's kind of where you see the seeds of Ah new focus on the Supreme Court as something that could be a protector of conservative political power and ideas. Now the debate you are talking about. It seems to happen a time when conservatism finds itself on the wrong side of the political consensus in the country. So what happened in the early eighties made Reaganism in which the conservatives very much represented the consensus of American wishes and thought. Conservatives could look around during the 19 eighties and say no, no, wait a second. It actually turns out that direct democracy and majoritarian elections that's working out pretty well for us. So there is this moment during the 19 eighties at the height of the Cold War, when Reagan is talking about democracy, and when conservatives seem to be winning these landslide elections, with the majority of the population behind them. That democracy has a bit of a moment in conservative circles. The U. S. Senate and the presidency are representatives of a political minority beneficiaries of the structurally disproportionate electoral representation. As a percentage of the population. Is Lee agitating for nothing Mohr than the perverse status quo. I think that there is a real fear among conservatives that even the kind of minority Arian benefits that are already built into the system through the Electoral college through the Senate are at risk. Nicole. Thank you very much. Thanks so much for having me. Nicole Hammer is a research scholar at Columbia University and author of Messengers of the Right Conservative Media and the Transformation of American politics. Matthew.
"john birch society" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM
"Running for school boards city, councils county, commissions state, legislatures and governorships as the coke brothers did start in the sixties and seventies because their dad Fred was one of the founders of the of the John Birch society and the after the Republicans kicked them out in any event. Joe, look, I see Democrats Republicans as being from different planets. The Republicans understand that one day impacts the next they connect dots beautifully. They understand that the George W Bush victory in Florida in two thousand by the supreme court was the result of their seats. The supreme court S E E D, I N G like growing crops prior to that everything builds on everything else the supreme court the lower courts, you take over the state legislature. You get the governor they've been doing it slowly steadily. And and and the Democrats the Democrats like. In this moment. It's freak out time. These are two different species Joe and unless and until the Democrats figure out how to act like Republicans. They're goose is cooked forever. Right now. Norm. You know, could this the supreme court has the ability to strike down everything Medicare Medicaid? So they're not gonna do that. They're not gonna strike that down Medicare, look, even the chief Justice knows that congress has the power to tax and spend Joe pop quiz. Why is social security constitutional? I gave you the answer. Why social security constitutional because under article one section eight percents powered attack suspend why did she Justice John Roberts who was trying to find a way to overturn ObamaCare? Why did he finally have to vote to say, it's legal? It's constitutional why because congress said by health insurance, and if you don't want to here's a tax supreme court said, hey, that's social security Medicare, the congress.
"john birch society" Discussed on Behind the Bastards
"An occasional holiday when he finally did come back. The first thing Charles did when he came home on vacation was beat up Bill. So how he's he's a bit of a dick to his brothers. Yeah. I'm the train. Mother fucker. So in nineteen fifty eight, Fred coke became one of the founding members of the John Birch society. John Birch, I dunno, it's fun. Us generate society was a far right wing conspiracy theory focused society. They would be kind of the nineteen fifties equivalent of a group like Infowars. Okay. Yeah. So the society's goal was to stop the spread of communism in America and push back against the efforts of secret communists hiding in the American government. Oh, did they start that witch hunt in Hollywood? They were a big part of that, but they went a lot further than McCarthy did because the secret communists they were going after. We're guys like president Dwight D Eisenhower. So is in Hauer was a lefty too according to the judge Birch society? Yeah, the Dwight Eisenhower who had the leader of the Congo assassinated for being a leftist sympathizer that Dwight Eisenhower is a kost. And sometimes when you are that Deaton to, he's deep, cover, deep, cover your have. To do things to make it look like, you're not? Yes. Sometimes I get it. Sometimes you have to overthrow three or four democratically-elected leftist regimes in order to further the broader goals of communism. Right? Is that what you're saying? Yeah. You wanna throw the people that are honored off your trail is possible. Hitler was a secret. Announced. I'm gonna shut you down. No, you should. So the whole John Birch society was the brainchild of Robert Welsh. A of the John Birch society demanded the US retired from the United Nations in ordered flyers, circulated in Dallas, Texas the day before the arrival of president Kennedy. The flyers stated that Kennedy was wanted for treason and that quote, he is turning the sovereignty of the US over to the communist controlled United Nations. So this has been going on for this has been going on for a long time. All of this was more or less in line with the beliefs of Fred coke. A man who in publications he wrote for the John Birch society stated quote, the colored man looms large in the communist plan to take over America for its suspected. That welfare was a conspiracy to fill American cities with black people who carry out a race war to exterminate white people. This is where Fred cokes minus. Now, the Kennedy assassination was not great for the reputations of the members of the John Birch society or for Robert Welsh main about this, but maybe they do it. That's. This myth, but I'll have to dig into it. If you dig into myths around this nation of Kennedy, the John Birch society regularly comes up. Well, I guess I haven't been Google not hard. Yeah, there were just a big thing and fire right circles back in the fifties and sixties. So after the Kennedy assassination, obviously mainstream conservatives denounced the John Birch society and Robert Welsh is crazy and claim. The society was a little more than a collection of conspiracy theorists, Charles coke, joined the John Birch society to impress his father, but he actually hated the gender society. 'cause he thought all this conspiracy shit was nuts. He was. Charles coke. Yeah, while he really wanted his father, he really wanted his dad's approval because he did not like the John Birch society. He was impressed by their organization in their fundraising prowess because they raised a lot of money and they had a really good secret sort of political organization going. He thought all the conspiracy bullshit got in the way of the society should be doing which was actually conspiring to destroy the new deal in most of the American government. So that was his issue with the John Birch society too much time on conspiracy theory nonsense not enough time dismantling the government. Okay. So in nineteen sixty one when Charles was twenty six is father's health began to fail and Charles Mott back home to Wichita to help run the company. He'd been working as a consultant in Boston. Many hadn't been back in Kansas long when he had his doc Brown hitting his head on a toilet, inventing the flex capacitor kind of moment. Here's how the Wall Street Journal described it in a fawning nineteen. Ninety-seven article quote one day in nineteen sixty two Charles newly minted MIT engineer pulled down a book on the. The Austrian school of economics, which describes free economies as systems of spontaneous unplanned order..
"john birch society" Discussed on KQED Radio
"Happened with the class of nineteen twenties it happened with the with the john birch society and the clinton nineteen fifties and also the white citizens council the nineteen fifties that take back emerge as a response to the brown v board of education decision it happened with john birch society in the fifties and sixties as partially as a response to this is simple rights movement it happened in with the tea party responsible bum so i mean this you know i mean i understand people want to be optimistic i i understand that but let me tell you i cannot afford to be optimistic but i hope it cost up as i see it yes you have said though that after periods of rachel progress there are periods of racial retrenchment which is what you feel like we're going to right now but that would then assume that maybe we would have a new era racial progress again so are you optimistic that this too shall pass or do you think that there's some real significant damage that's been done that that could be permanent i'm not suggesting you know trump getting elected is something that's a reputable that's not at all what i'm saying so in that sense i agree with diana on the other hand i i do believe that yes it should be some racial progress coming up here real soon how soon they will take a sex i don't know but i think it needs to be more progress across a variety of fronts not only when it comes to race what also when it comes to gender also when it comes to the immigrants also when it comes to same sex rights right i wanna make this clear when we talk about what's happening with trump would happen what happens the tea party in all these other right wing movement it's not solely clinton the nineteen twenties was also about gender and class so this is not solely relegated to rate this is a cross a variety of fronts the you've said that you hope that trump's election will force us to reckon with who we really are which is all these things that you just mentioned are you still hopeful that we will have that reckoning that positive bringing that up i tend to look at this glass half full because no longer can this country denied it is a racist sexist homophobic phobic ly period i mean we got a cheap offender in the white house right now and it's and it's a perfect the angeles just said a few minutes ago he's really blatant about it this is not dog this stuff he's right out there with it so i do believe this is a chance to show what we really are in america like all we really are we that shining city on a hill or something else i think it's a grand opportunity christopher parker professor in the department of political science at the university of washington his forthcoming book as the great white hope donald trump race in the crisis of democracy thanks for joining us this morning thank you have a good weekend you to let me go to more calls let's go to kneel in san francisco hi neil yeah hello good program very good topic it is difficult with the different terminology for example prejudice versus racism on with our went without but my comment or question is could your guest talk a little bit about why this economic fear versus racism racism needs to be so dualistic for example can't someone have economic fear and because they have this economic fear they map that onto i'll call it racist racist tendencies why does it have to be elected trump because of racist fears or i elected trump because economic here's why does it have to be one or the other why can't it be those and i tell trailing their if your guests wanna comment on what i'll call the scholarship on what i'll call the history of racism being economic in this in this country going back to play with me too much so my middle is named point diana much do you wanna start sure absolutely correct it doesn't need to be either or or but when we look at the data we can find lots of evidence on status racial anxiety that sort of thing and we really can't find evidence that people who are anxious about their economic circumstances worried about saving for retirement unemployed declining family financial situation all these types of ways we try to.
"john birch society" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM
"The john birch society in the nineteen sixties and fred coke the currents coke brothers fred the dad the current coke brothers dad he was one of the big guys behind the john birch society and i challenge you to show me that you could slide a blade of grass between the kkk and the john birch society show me how you could slide a thin dime show me where the daylight ends between one and in the sunlight bigger the daylight ends with the other the john birch society was kicked out of the republican party by of all people william f buckley junior and other corporate republican types and from that moment on they've been waging a fifty year campaign now fifty years plus actually to take over the republican party and they finally have done it they finally have done it the republican party is now the party of the kkk the john birch society and all these guys and we simply need to recognize that and so anyway thank you very much for the call and we got work to do sean thanks for being with us in the bay area hey norm so real quick book for people and i'll make it real quick the accidental president by aj bain d a m e the accidental president by aj beim and it was the first four months of harry truman's presidency and i'll tell you it's fascinating that's the only thing i just wanted to throw that out there real quick the other important thing i wanted to mention or other important thing is that you know chump supporters still useless i'd made this point before because i know people that work i'm in california obviously and and i know people that have a lot older than me to know people in the central valley with all of our farming and all that and these people feel useless and and it it brings masculinity is they the best words you do have the best words and you're right and it's also but it's a human trait every human on the face of the planet wants to be useful and competent and and what what what's really the all want to feel needed everybody wants to feel needed and important to knitted in right we all wanna feel relevant yeah productive in a productive right.
"john birch society" Discussed on KQED Radio
"How can i say this they turned our generation towards social responsibility some of your generation i always feel like the sixers is told us oh everybody was revolutionary and of course lots of people were doing other things with the john birch society and things like that there's a kind of mythos and you know my experience has been a five hundred kids did say in the sixties it was seen as they represented their generation there's been so many moments that i've witnessed in the eighties and the nineties and the millennial whatever we're in were huge groups of people did things i was with one of the biggest civil disobedience actions maybe the biggest in american history was five thousand people getting arrested to protest nuclear weapons at the nevada test site in nineteen eightyeight which made the soviet papers but not the us papers and there's been a lot of and there's been interesting seeing the attempt to dismiss as marginal or corrupter unrealistic or spoiled or trying to be like the sixties of most of the remarkable movements particularly the youth movements that have arisen since to occupy black lives matter environmental activists senate cetera and so there was this way where absolute happened in the sixties but you guys got better press than almost anyone did afterwards well these kids emma well now when these kids are actually getting it feels like the first time we haven't had the mainstream media disparaging young idealistic passionate people who wants to educated they also as i said you know they're taking grief mobilizing out of grief into action which just is completely inspiring for i think all of us and.
"john birch society" Discussed on Radio Free Nashville
"The military in burma in maher mar sat on sign sukey sue sued key down and said here's what's going to happen you know you're going to do what we want and if you don't you know you're going to die your family's gonna guy you know we're gonna pound salt on your in your in your yard you know and she's just this is my guest because she always was an ethical principle person now she's behaving like you know yeah she's she's just she's she's behaving like a total toady for the military got corrupted in the last hour talk about how concern should be the judges and the first second quarter all to be nominated i are we we should be insanely concerned about this this was part of the powell memo you know when when lewis powell in nineteen seventyone wrote his infamous memo one of the things he said that the the business community had to do was takeover federal judgeships because so many business deals and up in federal courts and so you know and out of that came came the the oh what's the name of this the federalist society the federalist society came i believe came out of the powell memo and now more than half of all federal judges are federalist society members and the federalist society is sort of like the john birch society for lawyers and and that's the group from which republicans draw their pool of potential judges and and you know we've been citizen united like like the pipeline in tacoma's all the decision's gonna end up in court and i think is very concerning that trump is staffing and filling all these digits with people who have a very pro business very conservative view you know and it's thirty i think it's something that we should be concerned about.
"john birch society" Discussed on AM 1590 WCGO
"It i find it odd an interesting and funny that it has to be this i don't know this long drawnout explanation on why why somebody would need the right to defend themselves and i and i love this too this is a clip actually the john birch society put this up and it was a it was a clip in and the main clip was it was from nineteen seventy 77 and the clip said gun crime is not stopped by guncontrol gun crime it's not just a gun control how simple is this how simple as this so easy i mean he can't get any simple or but but there by gosh there are people that uh guns do oh i'm sorry guns do not cause crime people caused crime issues now guns gun control will not help gun crime does not get solved with gun control in i know you just baffling melt my head just exploded in the netherlands soonhoon guns were bands who and after that happened the dick crime rates started going up in the police had to come up with a way to fight crime back so what did they start doing they started stopping people who were driving cars that they looked like they couldn't afford and they started confiscating property from people who who couldn't prove how they paid for it right the assumption being if you can't prove how you paid for this them you must have gotten it through some illgotten gain right and that's the policy now in rotterdam that's the police chief of rotterdam's policy if somebody looks like they have something that's the beyond their billeted a pay for we pull a over he says we confiscate rolex watches all the time a bag of i just can't even it you can't if you couldn't have paid for it i mean that regardless of its a gift or you prove how you paid for by confiscated the ruling us they confiscated in in 2016 the city of rotterdam confiscated eleven point five million euros in money and goods from citizens that couldn't prove how they paid for oh my gosh now i thought that when i first read that i thought will thank god that can happen here in the united states of america and then i remembered a man asset forefeiture has a little that pesky little thing they pass the ability to do just man that is that.
"john birch society" Discussed on KPNW 1120AM Newsradio
"With a one hundred percent rating i don't think we have anything with a one hundred percent right but says four point nine on the one and then i guess one hundred percent with with would would give it to a french was kinda like nine i brazil on one hundred so i mean he is the world a forty on that and we're getting the book your your house like it was like his his his at that even that accurate i'd roll out somewhere like a thousand miles away and it was accurate i'm like man this is this is crazy how he did this show tells cows in is a is a smart guy he joins us now of via skype to get into the un it was a john birch society i first ever heard about the planned amelia lies cities and slowly bring the un n and that's all this his are they tried to bring in troops show national guard stabilize chicago this guy was that we don't want it and now prominent democrats are calling for the un to come in i'm not finger taking over i'm saying it's part longterm plan that loretta lynch talked about of having the unb the authority here with federal backing over policy just like unesco but trump is pulling us out of all that drill scowls and what is your expert analysis on this i think it's a pretty big development at least psychologically i think alex that this was a test case they're testing the waters to see how the public is going to react to this it's not going to go anywhere in my opinion because the chicago police chief himself said the un has no authority there how are they going to do anything they can't arrest anyone they can't round up you can't take control of the streets without authority and that can only be issued by the federal government give they invite the united nations near the nap would probably not even be constitutional or legal but in terms of constitutional law the state's fourcity governors let alone steady governments cannot make any agreement was four nations it's absolutely prohibited that's the rigs exclusive role of the country's countries.
"john birch society" Discussed on KGO 810
"And a couple sponsors did they drop out because of of of boycotts her or any kind of pressure ono there were no boycott uh uh he can really be luca the very into boarded a john birch society as well uh giving required convey out factories showed or looted one britain erupted uh lead to another one who dropped out early show a good cadbury candy uh british influence to news uh so very dropped out uh and then overnight low regard good until rotenburg rather you agree more from new york couldn't said that uh he will turn out to save that uh uh uh no no volunteered not butter had nothing to do with any very under cancellation of a show that the sponsors spamming weighty on so you you you go murcia ratings you at yet the ratings were fine you had spotted standing alayan hey for up my editor at all you use started out you've told me stories about about a coming up in intelevision issued during the days of play house ninety in live tv and and enduring a lot of those during a lot of that period of time the blacklist was going on and mccarthyism was going on i'll do you see any parallels in terms of the climate that we find ourselves in now as opposed to the climate we with america was in that wall carter to uh blacklist now because we can't really pinpoint the enemy kambli uh there's a big effort by mid could move over to connect donald trump to uh a guy don't buy putu uh for the election but uh in the old days they used to say commie army and people would would shut up bermuda and turn on their hind leg embark uh the can't do that anymore uh trump to create a foreign invasion by latino can solve muslims from re but uh liivo don't get carried away like they used to you'll new people i mean you you knew people who lost their careers that you that back in those days oreo yeah who who geno john ryan are worth one i knew uh uh you would you man to be a name.
"john birch society" Discussed on WAAM Talk 1600
"Of them out there geno that the people that run detroit buy into this crap the coleman young a junior whatever his name is on i mean they buy into this crap uh this is uh the communist revolution that's truce all comes out of a nobody we'll talk about it there either not smart enough to know that that's a fact or they're afraid because while they'll sunk crazy idea of a tough like that those on that's crazy talk where they come from communist revolutionary all your job here are you a john birch society member you're crazy uh i'm not a member yet but i'm thinking about seriously there there too stupid to understand that that's what this is all about this this this crazy thread if you will vein of a leftist them that's permeated america is the communist revolution we find out today just recently that the russians have been all running a propaganda campaign in the united states of america around the pipeline the pipeline protests remember when they're all up in arms on the several pipelines out the the most famous been keystone luther a bunch of motor and up the couldn't complete production of pipeline wolfer number reasons mainly because we had breakfast sent obama in the white house a we had uh gina mccarthy stirred out of uh of central lesbian casting to come in and run the epa and they would not let those pipelines be built just wouldn't do it but who was the biggest propaganda behind that the kept everybody all ginned up from television radio ads out in the area where the pipelines were a proposed the russian government i stuck it up on facebook associate for so we'll talk about that later on so our latter russia russian collusion going on and why would the russians do that that they want to destroy the united states of america some do but there is they wanna do that that is because they don't want the united states being energy independent they want us buying energy from them the saudis whatever so of trying to undermine our energy through a slick advertising campaign tough reckon russians yeah uh you know the.
"john birch society" Discussed on WBZ NewsRadio 1030
"Wishart your take your would great theater sometimes i feel like it's best to dislodge them go away well yeah i mean but you know he just a john birch society still just grow about about the health care and what the republicans have put forth i i was sure many them would save their christians i wonder how many have ever heard of will good samaritan certainly this bill doesn't include out in just quickly over the samaritan found this man who had been injured on the side of the road it widened to one in the hospitals back of at day and said i'm going on a trip is the money if it's not enough i'll see you on the way back i mean that was jeez parable of of how we should handle uh people who are in distress i mean it it's thing even if you take the religious site out of it it just seems to be in such an obvious a perspective here that we've reached an age where we have plenty as a country and there's no reason that anyone in this country should not be able to provide themselves and their families with basic health care with medicine and not have to worry about still being able to afford food on the table well i i brought the ruling this aspect in purposely bright many republicans many mike pence is the the shining example imode christian conservative and republican in that order who set out ballot arms now but adding his wallet super she whatever it is you'll christianity.
"john birch society" Discussed on KOIL
"Our provinces have any power anymore all powers in london and on top of that that's where motion picture industry is and our wall street and our fashion industry its london london london all london and nothing else that's why these terrorist attacks on london or white an attack on march the dc the new york at hollywood i'll wrap up in one they should don't give up the power of your state so of subsidiarity of of a county stay and a and a local government at yes even county government that kind of respect when when it gets on the fringes a becomes so little government you have energy okay now my mentor intellectually was william at buckley james burnham greatest book suicide of the west russell kirk all of those people when i was in school there were no books there was no gigantic library of conservative thought like now there were a handful of people in economics the austrian school live bovine says a of a handful of people the road to serfdom hayek a handful you had to go looking for when i was at loyal were you now rural miramonte you but if the john birch society was too much for me i was a fan of eyes in our he was not a conscious our own i'm conscious aged of the conditions virzy at bill buckley wrote them off do you know how many white supremacists which never touch the john birch society all those right wing of crete groups they are condemn isolated and considered at as bad as communists by everybody that i know in the republican party when i came across in article v of the day that i'm going to do i'm taking excerpts out of it to condense it for you so that if i get colder sit in for a rubber dhabi again or any of the other great holds some talk radio network i can give you the essence of this article to tidal news not nothing too far to the left h the liberal philosophy of america today which is totally captured lock stock and barrel the democratic party they fly nothing to the left as far left is you wanna go communism they buy nothing it is unacceptable or does in that good ideas that's what liberals are the so far from being a conservative today it's like the up and down of left and right is just absolutely totaling one.