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09/03/21 DPS Hour 3 John Oats

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09/03/21 DPS Hour 3 John Oats

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I'm your host rhett lewis in on the nfl inside report podcast. I'll go around the league for in-depth analysis in storytelling with a multitude of exclusive. Nfl insiders getting unmatched access game. Recaps the biggest news indepth reports that take you beyond the headlines. Multiple times per week all on. Nfl inside report the nfl inside report. Podcast debuts september eighth listened to nfl inside report on the iheartradio app on apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts. You are listening to the dan. Patrick show on fox sports radio final hour on this meet. Friday triggers are fired up chad from triggers. Here whipping up. A batch is got some ribs in there. I don't know what else he's got busy. And then he said You guys wanna have some drinks after the show. I said sure he said all right. I'll make some old fashions on the traeger. I don't know how you do that. But we got old fashioned coming up after the show. Also coming up on the show fritzy booked john hall. John oates hall notes on the most successful duos in recording history. And i don't know if john oates knows this but i was going to Offer the opportunity for him to sing the todd fritz. No not the other way around for him to sing with you fritzie. He would be honored for that to have that opportunity and john oates big college football fan. I saw a picture with him and coach saban together at alabama. But i met john for breakfast. We didn't plan on meeting for breakfast. When i was in paris couple years ago and came down to the hotel cafeteria restaurant. Whatever it was. Mary was walked over to him introduced myself and said i sit down. Talk some football sure. That's what you expect to do. When you're in paris you sit down and talk college football with john paul notes. Yes time. is it true he went to the. Please make stay no definite nope. We're not doing that now. Yes he's pretty good no. We're not doing that. No we're not doing that when you're famous guy but when you see someone like john oates musician you have no idea if he likes sports. And you do the walkup. What level of concern that. He has no idea who you are. Totally knows who you are because with you. It's one of the two. I didn't care if he didn't know was still going to say. Hey i know who you are. And and the thing is is i had. I had seen daryl hall the day before getting into an elevator with security. And i thought oh so hall and oates is must be in town and then when i had breakfast the next morning i i see john and i just thought. Let me go salo tongue. What's the harm. Be just another fan say. Enjoy your music and you guys plan tonight and they were playing in paris that night thinking maybe he would invite my wife and i which which he didn't but that's okay you know i didn't want to see hall in paris. Yes todd why would you want to see holiday anywhere. Hope so joking so he said i can't go for that. It's not we're not gonna. We're not gonna do song here. We're not doing the interest. Tell him i'll come on. I'm a family man so we're not doing that. You know you know how you make sara smile by stop. Talk okay tell. His kiss was on your list. He would have been like no no his kisses not on my talk on the cheek. We've got two new sizes. A pennies bang biscuits. The bite sized treats perfect rewards during training sessions. Or anytime you want to thank you for just being a good dog healthy. All natural ingredients and twenty percent of the banged biscuit. Sales will be given back to handpick partners in the pet industry. The new peacock original series hard to hardware. Kevin hart sits down with today's big celebrities for unfiltered conversations. New episodes premiering every week go to peacock. Tv dot com for the details. What's the poll question for the final hour. Eleven okay Which is a better on field product college football or nfl. And i brought up the point. Are they show different that. It's even worth distinguishing them. That was sort of the dan argument over here. I never given this thought. You know pulling. Don't you find the college. Football has a lot more creativity. A lot more big plays long plays broken plays because the the level talent is more disjointed and the nfl is every team kind of looks the same. Well we saw this last night with. Cj strahl the richard freshman with ohio stadium at four touchdowns the four touchdowns covered thirty eight fifty-six seventy sixty one yards an average of just over fifty six yards per touchdown. Since two thousand fifteen only four quarterbacks have average more than fifty six yards per touchdown. On four or more touchdown passes in a power five matchup. Virginia's brennan armstrong alabama's mack jones in alabama's to tonga by law are in that club. Best dad of the day stat of the day here comes that. What stat of the oklahoma quarterback spencer rattler may be the heisman front runner at least in vegas but the preseason favorite at doesn't mean much no one no one thought alabama's devante smith was going to win it last year. He wasn't even the number one receiver on his own team. Jalen wanna was in two thousand nine hundred. Lsu's joe borough considered an average quarterback coming into the season. No one saw cuyler murray in two thousand eighteen. Either you go down the list. You don't see that many favorites who actually won marcus. Mariota was pretty hyped up before he wanted in two thousand fourteen but guys have come out of nowhere johnny manziel. Rg three cam newton. That's why college football so much fun. Maybe spencer rattlers the guy. Maybe being an oklahoma lincoln riley seems to ensure that. But in this case you might feel better betting on the field tony romo's in love the. Cbs analysts for the nfl on cbs. He had this to say about zack. Wilson i think jack wilson is going to be an discussion is one of the top three or five quarterbacks very quickly you know within the next couple of years the rise. I think he's unbelievable. Ceiling is so high. it's Say someone has the ability to get in the stratosphere of mahomes. But i think this kid actually has that ability while okay. That was a quick leap. I people criticizing me. I the audacity to say mack. Jones reminds me of a like a mini. Tom brady same characteristics. People like how can you say he's going to be tom brady. I'm not saying i'm saying. He looks like he's playing the part when he joined us a last year he talked about looking up to tom. Brady and wanting to be like tom brady. This is different. This is tony. Romo said he's going to be mahomes. Ian there's no wiggle room there. But if you're looking at the young quarterbacks kazak wilson going to be better than trevor lawrence. Is he going to be better than mac. jones is. He going to be better than justin. Herbert josh allen. When you say he's going to be a top five quarterback quickly okay. He's got to leapfrog guys. We still don't know about joe borough but these are just the young quarterbacks and he's on a team that's not going to be successful not soon. And that's where you see mack. Jones will be successful. Joe boroughs not going to be successful as far as his team. A josh allens already successful. Having that team justin fields might have a better chance at being successful before you know. Jack wilson does yama club. Yeah mack jones jumped to the front of the vegas odds for rookie of the year bt on a much better team yes when you don't have to worry about the ancillary things okay. I got running backs. I while got the greatest football coach of all time. I got a really really talented offensive. Coordinator you start there now. I got a really good offensive line running game and i got some some weapons. I have some safety valves with tight ends. Not many rookie. Quarterbacks have the trevor lawrence doesn't have anything close to that and zach. Wilson doesn't have anything close to that. It'll be hard for them to be successful. Joe borough doesn't have that. That's why when trae lance will have that tray lance will have a talented coach offensive minded and skill position players. And whenever he gets that chance. he's going to have a chance to be more successful than trevor lawrence. Or zach wilson in my mind tuitonga. Bilo met with the media and he talked about well. Here's how the conversation started your focus quarterback and flow suspend to block everything. How do you compartmentalize everything. That close with the sean and everything. That's mentioned here. You know what's funny. Is i heard jank just say he doesn't have cable. I'm one of those guys that don't have cable too. So i'm not able to turn on my tv and watch what's going on to see the news and whatnot now. Obviously i know. Social media is a big deal but really i only hear from Or hear about those things either for my agents or if it comes from end nolan or if coach wants to sit down and talk to me about things like that so that's kind of how i find out you know a lot of the talk that's going on. Do you believe that too would do not have cable. Does he have did. He cut his cable cord. Does he have something else in a technicality. The here z. Accord cutter yes. Mclovin definitely does it have traditional cable like we grew up with. Yeah but my son does a either right exactly same thing. Yeah yeah polling. But he almost made it. Sound like on the old social media. He'd like sixty eight year old. Dude he he's i think he's twenty four. I'm sure he's on social media quite a bit and has to. How do you ignore stuff that said about you when it comes through your feet. I don't know he probably follows miami writers and reporters or maybe enough. I go back to bill bell check. Who said i don't twitter. I don't my face. I don't yearbook no and i don't think anybody else does coach just Just letting you know. Jeff in detroit leads us off final hour. Hi jeff. what's on your mind today. What though at one time for rome two times the back mom bros. Tennyson from american tyler. They forget about you when chad is in the house. You know grill enough. Some stuff but Yeah man i'm gonna tell you like this. i love. I wish we could just be best friends. I just come over his house and meet all day long man. That would be wonderful. Listen dan i have a christmas list and the only thing for christmas. This year is to beat ohio state. All the jokes that. I do all the jumping. I'll talk to ohio state. Michigan is another one. that's what of ohio state Toilet paper you know. All of the jump man. I just wanna be the state and last but not least. There's nothing funnier than when the snark master generals that one hundred percent. Paulie your own fire. You guys have a good weekend. Well thank you jeff. You're on fire today actually disagree. I think that a average. I agree probably average. But that's still average is higher than any other person in your position snark last. Yes because normally paul's a real man eater daddy. God don't want to go one on one. With paul and guys got a lot of recognizable songs. i'm looking at the numbers here for honus yet salary game. They have twenty one albums. They've sold over eighty million albums. They have ten number one records over twenty top forty hits say. It isn't so dan. did you know that you're out of touch or something. Okay this is what happens. When i let fritzy book exactly what happened. Let todd book when the morning comes. It'll all be over. Dan when the morning co i'm just reading the muffling. I know i know that was so close that another song. Yeah it's so far away you know so close now. I don't know so close. I i know sarah smile and you're a rich girl. Sarah smiles a great song. In fact daryl hall said. It's a perfect song that he could. They couldn't do it any better i think. That's the one song. He said that he could never do. Overdo anything to it. It's a perfect song. Sarah yep first time ever kissed a girl. Roller rink glenwood illinois. Kiss on my list was playing in the background. I swear. that's how memorable us. That's a good sign twenty four year old. Yeah on sixty members only jacket. We're now you're twenty four top. I wasn't a stud jacket. And the poop shells guess role in the roller rink. Yeah i like it. I like it. You meant business. Who needs beer natan. Oklahoma. hi nate. what's on your mind today. Go then good. Nate answers to philly on a tweeted out yesterday. That run. Vera said that there should be asterix for any records that are broken the season i kind of want to get your thoughts on that and also what record do you think single season record. It basically untouchable for me. It's a single season interception. Eckerd only one person since nineteen eighty. One has gotten more than ten in the league. Just because i think it's so easy to avoid certain people. But i wanted to get your thoughts. I don't. I don't think that's unbreakable getting more than ten interceptions in a season mclovin. It's the asteroid An extra game. Yeah so you're gonna asterik every season from here on out apparently but here's the thing what record. That could be broken. Do we really care about touchdown passes in season. I can we gonna be upset if somebody throws more than fifty five touchdown passes. I don't think so rushing for two thousand yards breaking eric. Dickerson's all record. I don't think anybody like what record in football do we care about. Single season receptions. Do we care about two thousand yard receiving. I don't think we care about anything sacks. I think we cared when stray hand got the host sack against brett farve. But i don't. I don't think anybody's going if somebody gets twenty five sacks in a season we're gonna go to an extra game. I don't know it's like baseball. What records do we care. That could be broken if somebody bats four hundred all right then. I'd be curious about that but we haven't added extra games in in fact we've we've diminished the philosophy of trying to put the battle in the ball and baseball. Nobody's gonna come close to batting. Yeah pulling it's like the record for most rushing yards in a season by running back. If you were true about it you would say. Oj simpson because he fourteen games here in seventy three ran for one hundred forty three yards per game. That's the best ever now. If he would've played sixteen games he'd be at twenty three hundred fifty yards. He would be the record but nobody gives. Oj credit as the single single-season rush record guy. And he is. I don't know if there's any zero record that we don't see broken mclovin. I like that saxon. If aaron donald did it that would be nowhere like it has to be. But nobody's going to be upset. If aaron donald sets the single season record for sacks. I i think that would be nowhere. That be cool. That'd be a cool story line of watch but there's not another stat where you go. That will never be broken. It like steroids in baseball. The passing numbers got so ridiculous. That the the passing records are irrelevant. Let me take a break because this could be one of the great moments in todd. Fritz hit history here we do know how much he loves hall another and you make everyone's dreams come. I'm just saying. Do you think people do that to john. Oates today might like they up to him and they say hi. I'm sarah make me smile. I would hope that they don't have that type of treatment. I think he'd rather be used left. Be says i can't go for that. No can do ok. Does john oates snow that you want to sing with it. I'm not sure if he's aware of that. But i do know that i am extremely excited that he kind of guest on the. Let me let me take a break. Because we'll talk to john c. I want to talk to him about visiting nick. Sabin big big. Sec fan and of course our intimate breakfast that we had in paris a couple years ago. Eighteen after the hour. Back after this on the dan patrick show. Summer is coming to an end. It's important time for everybody to get a lot of sleep. Even more important for the kids going back to school. Here's some tips for you. Parents keep the room cool somewhere between sixty five sixty eight degrees maybe use a fan or white noise machine or maybe call up and have todd sing your kids bedtime lullaby or maybe not in the little hole in there. If you don't have todd's number then this is what i would suggest turned to sleepnumber. Great time to discover the sleep number three sixty smart bed now during the biggest sale of the year. All beds on sale save fifty percent on the new limited edition smart bed plus special financing for a limited time only at sleepnumber stores or sleepnumber dot com slash patrick. 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Chad's out there cooking. So i think we. The big german jumped up and turned off the fire. Alarm their traeger. Wood pellet grill offering real woodfired flavor. Set it in forget. It convenience trigger offers a perfectly to cook all season. Long grab one at your local dealer visit. Traegergrills dot com slash. Gp show to learn more me. Give the official introduction to. John oates rock and roll and be guitar singer. Songwriter record producer rock and roll hall of famer and of course one half of hall and oates. I mentioned that whole notes made twenty one albums. They've sold over eighty million albums and making them the most successful duo in rock history. Ten number one records over twenty top forty hits and john oates joining us on the program. John thanks for joining us. Let me apologize before we start this for whatever is going to happen after this but it's great to have you on great to see you again. That's great to see you. Dan thanks of just finished a tour so It's it's great to be here in our cabin in colorado and i'm going gets a little bit of our and our before we resume but anyway it's great to talk to you and whenever i go to paris and i'm having breakfast i have. I have breakfast with john. Of course now but of course now i knew i knew you but i didn't know if you knew me that's what i thought. Well i'm just gonna walk over and say alot. Now you're going to be honest. I took i took the croissant. Out of my mouth was no. Of course i know you and you know i'm a sports fan i've value and watch your show and y- was great mean it's always great to see a fellow Yank in a foreign country and you know it reminds me of the good old days man when we just traveled around and enjoyed being in europe. So things have changed but yeah. That was a. That was a good time. All right your favorite band or artist's that you performed with over the years is who. Wow that's a heck of a question in a we performed. I don't know where to begin. We perform we opened for stevie wonder we open for david bowie on his first american tour blood sweat and tears. We played with You know we've played with when done shows with the eagles and it list goes on. I mean we've been doing this for almost fifty years so but bowie again. Bowie was ziggy. Stardust this was. It was his first. It was the first show on ziggy stardust. Tour and we opened for in memphis tennessee. Absolutely what did you think when you saw the way. I was shocked because i had been a fan of him for his first album. Hunky dory which which was kind of an experimental singer songwriter. Acoustic kind of record. And i had no idea what he was going to do when he came out in the sequin. You know sn- with the red hair and the whole bit. I was like okay so you can actually do that in your take. I opening honestly but then you're with stevie wonder list goes on and on you know we you know we did live aid in philly with mick jagger tina turner and we played the apollo theater with eddie kendricks and david ruffin from the temptations. I mean i really you know what just been blessed and fortunate to be part of a great era in rock music history and you know i feel like we got a chance to pick the cherries from the top of the tree. You know but would you rather talk music but rather sports. I'll talk sports. We're on sports to a man. I i love sports. I'm i've been you know. I'm an amateur athlete. I guess you could say over the years when i was in school and always love to always love football but it was always too small to play and well i was in junior. High wasn't too small. Until i kept getting my butt kicked and then i said i'd better concentrate on and mike. It's our okay. You get a chance to meet nick sabin. Oh yes what was that like. We were playing in tuscaloosa. And the promoter was a an alabama lung and we had it was right. He said he said to me he goes after soundcheck. Do you want to go over and see alabama practice. I said yes. And i get got a bunch of the guys in the band together. We went over there and it was. It was an amazing experience. I have to say if if you ever have to question about why alabama is alabama. Just if had the good fortune to take a tour of their facility and see what happens inside that room. It's you know you'll become a believer immediately and it was really interesting because we actually got to meet coach saban and they told us when we first came in that he very rarely sees any wandering during season and so we were seeing sure. Of course whatever you know every says well. We went up to his office and he has a nice Nice woman who kind of handles things for them up there. And i said any chance i could sit at his desk. Said sure i said the guy wears head and she says yeah i said what about can i put the rings on and she said absolutely because he had always rings on the front desk. There's a picture of me. I'll send it to you as a picture of me sitting at his desk with the hat going and we got all the rings on and it was amazing and then in the next room he was sitting there doing some paperwork and he graciously got up and spent Spent a good five ten minutes with us and we talk. But i could tell his mind was somewhere else. Even though he was he was very very cordial with us but he was. He was focused on and it was an amazing experience. So i have to say we saw jalen hurts and two were both practicing with two different groups at the same time. It was during that period of time and it was great. It was amazing. But when i first met you in paris in you said you love the sec like how did you fall in. Love with sec. Football i moved to nashville. i had i had. I had no choice You know you you live in the south you. You eat sleep and drink. Sec and it's you know and quite frankly you know it's it's just an amazingly competitive and very high level of of Excitement and if the fans it's culture it's a culture in the south. It's more than just football game. Have you guys on the anthem. At a sporting event. I've done anthem a number of times I did the anthem I in fact we just played denver. Just two nights ago at at the former pepsi center. And i i i did. The anthem was for nuggets game. But the most memorable one was when i did the anthem for the phillies against the rays on the famous game. That got rained out. The only game. I think in world series history that rained out and wind it out. I mean i remember people they were hitting balls and the ball was landing from look so i got to sing. Sing it there. And i sung in an unknown number of times and then you guys just got off a tour. You're traveling around the world and then you're coming back stateside and then you'll start here is not just due due to covert. We had you know. Obviously we were offering a year and a half which lasted twelve twelve cities and we started august fifth quite frankly. I wasn't sure whether we were going to make it to today If if our tour manager called me in the morning and said hey doodo home. It wouldn't have surprised me but the fans turned out that the audience was incredible. We we had a very secure ovid safe bubble among our our team and our crew No one got sick so you know. I counted as big win and we just finished that and resume on september eighteenth. We start maryland. We go down south and we ended up at the hollywood bowl on october first. Who is your favorite band grownup. Well well i'm. I'm going to show my age but you know i'd go back to the early days of rock and roll berry elvis little richard and then up through the sixth grade be that came out of stax. Volt you know. Salmon dave otis redding curtis mayfield chicago the temptations lot. The great filly artists as well. So you know it's been a mixed bag. I love singer songwriters joni mitchell. I'm big fan of band. So i had a really eclectic tastes when it comes music. But you guys don't refer to yourself as whole notes i mean. Isn't it every album. Like it's daryl. Hall john oates. We did that on purpose. So i know it seems like a subtle point but we always wanted to be perceived as two guys who worked together. And it's i know it's a subtle distinction but it matters to us and so the world calls us whole notes it's more convenient of course But yeah we were two individuals we think differently. We've lead different. Lives we come together. And we have a lot of commonality where music comes together but We're perfectly capable making records and doing things individually fritzy. Who is a huge hole note. I heard you know where i'm going with this john. I'm not quite sure. But i think i'm ready. Okay fritzy what song would you like to sing. I'm going to say to john not with john. John decides that he wants to join in. But i assuming that's water. You're taking a drink out of john before you do this. Not not vodka or anything. Well actually it is. It is water. And i have. I have a feeling. I'm gonna wish all right fritzy. What what do you want to sing with. One of your idols. I chose kiss on my list. Private is probably my favorite. But i went with kiss on my list. Why don't you sing just a little bit. So john at least understand sort of you know what. Your voice ranges won't kill me too much because again. Since i'm a little kid i love on the president to the fan club but i just think okay. Okay friends wonder. Why call you all the time. what can i say. Hey don't feel the need to give such secretary way. Help nawab okay. I've heard that song. No that's that's pretty darn good had to say i'm gonna tell narrow you're ready you're ready to step in at any moment i'm sure is gonna go Who young and coats. Yeah okay so that was just a sampling here. That was very exciting. Just now seriously made a dream come true here that i'm talking to jonathan singing once again but not i make my dreams come onwards with one of the songs but i'm genuinely being serious right now. That john on the show in me singing along with they might just. It's crazy right now john. Do people come up and use those lines to you. That the song titles. Yes women will come up and go. Hey i'm a man eater. Sorry it's you know what i've realized while i was listening to you guys prior to coming on i realized that are song. Titles can could actually be part of a conversation. Kinda interesting guys were like throwing out all these titles and a lot of deep tracks too which was cool. Because you've got a family man. I can't go for that kiss on my list. Man eater one on one out of touch privatized. Rich girl sara. Smile say it ain't so she's gone. You make my dreams. You've you've lost that loving feeling. Yeah fritzy do you have another one that you want to do here with john. Before i put him out of his misery and i let him go. Okay i chose have lost that loving feeling. Because that's that's like all. John oates he gets. He gets that role on. And that's like all about oats put. That would be a good song are you are you. Is that your song though. That's known that was written by philip. A berryman and cynthia. Weil to amazing brill. Building songwriters way back in new york city that was originally recorded by the register. Brothers and that's why i mean do you. If you have a minute. I can tell you very kind of crazy story about this special. We had made an album voices in the early eighties. And in those days what we would do is. We would have a listening party for our friends. The record company radio people and we'd bring them into the studio and we debut the album and of course it always hopefully You know big success. We did that and everyone was. Vibe was good but we felt there on both talk after we listen to it in its entirety. We said something's missing. We didn't know what it was so after the listening party we we were in the village. We recording at electric lady on eighth street in greenwich village and we went to a pizza place which was literally half a block down the street and we were having some pizza and on the jukebox came the righteous brothers original version of you lost that loving feeling and we looked each other go. Why don't we just cut that. And so the next morning we went into the studio with the band. We cut it in half a day. recorded the track sang-song put it on the album and it became a big hit for us so it was just one of those things who just kind of happened but and you were also we are the world right. I mean there were a lot of different people in their. How how how you explain that. Though i mean you had was waylon jennings there i. I'm not sure dan ackroyd. No no no. We're only only musical performance in the are you shore. Well he might have been there. A you know what there was so much going on. It was so heady to be in that room. All i know is where i was standing where they placed me in the group. Ray charles was off my left show op dylan was all and all i do is i was in a really good place. I said this is cool. I don't know what is happening here. I feel good about where i'm at right now. I i see. Are you ready. Yes okay. John you can choose to jump in or you can just sit there and listen. I don't know. I may to just enjoy this. But i'll see okay. You never close your. Who when i kiss your new. That's the way it is no tenderness laughing your fee. You're trying hard to show. Who will and okay. Okay you get the part. Got the part do when they do. My bio pic we We call you john. You're good sport and once again it was great seeing you when we had breakfast in paris Good luck with the tour and New year part of our celebrity bracket challenged with march madness. We hope to have you back again. Absolutely thank you. This weekend's football first. Weekend i'm excited. Thank you bud. John hall of famer all right. That was just beyond incredible. You go so happy. I just make dreams come true. Really do how cool is that. I'm just so excited. We'll take a break. It's a meet friday and we'll go out to the grilling area chad from traeger out there. So good way to wrap up to the day. We'll be back after this on the dan. patrick show. Thanks for listening to the dan. Patrick show podcast sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine pacific on fox sports radio and you can find us on the iheartradio app at fsr or stream. It live on the peacock out. Hey this is jason mcintyre. 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He got a chance to talk about different musical people at inspired him and everything. I thought he really enjoyed it. Okay mic love new. John oates enjoyed absolutely legit sports. Guys tell satan you think so. Yeah i think so polling. He didn't have to sing and he got to make fun of someone else singing or have fun with someone. I was surprised that he just realized that his the song titles for hall and oates could be used in a conversation. You could have an entire conversation with those song. Titles he'll probably never hear those songs again after fritzy thing. You're not afraid that's for sure you're not as good as you think you are when you're singing but you know part of singing is having confident points. I close my eyes. Get all through matt again. Like you're singing a love song to john oates. And you're you're closing your eyes. You have no idea what a big deal. What just happened to me. I was a kid with hornos shirts and buttons get beat up in elementary school junior high school but i was like four out whore notes just like someone would wear a metallica or acdc with patches on jeans jackets. Glad this was. This was awesome. Thank you you're welcome. Yes mclovin no idea. He's only been talking about constantly. Thirteen years how would we ever know that. You like toll notes crossover. Yes seton it is. It is so interesting and a perfect example of who todd. Fritz is low right that for forty years. He's been obsessed with this band and loves them like no other and gets a chance to sing with one of the duo n. Chose a cover song that that is perfectly todd. Fritz out of all the catalogue of all of their hits he started chose kissing my list and then was like. I really want to do this. Cover song. I thought that would be appropriate because of all the songs they sing. That's the one where he gets the real main opportunity when you hear johnson's voice instead of just kind of being in the background the even though it's a cover of you lost the righteous thing. It's john oates is basically the singer of that song. Everything else is all. It would have helped if he sang with. You hoping he might no no. I think that he did a just a little bit when you started. And then he probably thought better of that doesn't need to be associated with that and yeah i don't. I don't think so this day in sports history. Paul got a few bud smith. Remember that guy. Two thousand one. Yeah he threw a no hitter in his eleven start and he never even when ten games after that. We'll see. Mario lemieux bought the pittsburgh penguins in nineteen ninety nine and the sad one thousand nine hundred. Seventy vince lombardi passed away of cancer. He was only fifty seven years old when you see the pictures of him yeah. He looks like When he's coaching. He looks much older sixties. Fifty-seven-year-old yeah I don't think i have any other ones to add to that. The houston oilers on this date. Nine hundred sixty six held denver without a single. I down houston one. Forty five to seven beating the broncos an entire game no first downs Let's see let me get to dennis in florida. Hi dennis what's on your mind today. Eight dan first time super longtime started watching with back on direct. Tv and twenty ten. No thank you. I'm sorry if i sound a little nervous. She'd been part of my life for so long. You'd like to my best dunkel. That i've never met i. I watched you but if way back on. Espn i couldn't catch it until eleven o'clock sportscenter which is past my bedtime. Everyone would be bed. I'd go out and living room. I'd put a blanket on tv to cover the tv lights on the blanket. And watch you. You got me through. La of hard times went through a divorce. The only thing that really kept me sane was watching you every day. So i'm sorry for some little nervous. No thank you. Thank you for the kind words. Dennis what can i help you with. What what else on your mind. Well so you're two-parent and i did too Actions as brady. Tom brady esque. Yeah and and and tony. Romo saying wilson is patrick mahomes esque and everyone agreed that trevor lawrence was the shirt thing compared him to andrew luck so if the draft will tell now whichever still go number one or would mack jones. 'cause you know tom brady should be number one now. I think that And thank you. Dennis and thank you for the kind words. Trevor lawrence is still going number one by the way. Tony romo's sang zach. Wilson's going to be a top five quarterback. Nobody's saying mack jones going to be tough quarterback. They're big difference in that that mack jones is similar in size and style to tom. Brady not success not resume. Not the possibility just what he does. This is what he does. Well which is similar to. What brady did well in that same offense. That's all this. Is tony romo's taken this a step further. He saying zach. Wilson is going to be a top five quarterback shortly. Nobody's saying that. About mack jones but mack jones will probably have a better year than trevor lawrence. Zach wilson and trae lance. Because he's on a better team. That's the important part. I don't know when trae lance gets in and gets the start. I don't know justin fields when he gets in and gets the start mack. Jones gets the start right away. The glove remember mack. Jones was number three in mock drafts forever. he was gonna go to sell francisco. Yeah well we were led to believe that. That was the kind of quarterback that kyle shanahan. I wonder if one day kyle shanahan looks back and says you know what. I should've taken mack jones. That just i mean trey lands could be unbelievable. But you know it's hard to tell with. We don't have a large sample size with these quarterbacks trevor lawrence i mean it felt like he was there for five years zach wilson. One year mack. Jones one year to a one year justin fields. Well a little bit more than a year. But you know it just feels like a tray lance one year and not against great competition. You're trying to go. That guy's gonna be great. I don't know. I still don't know about baker mayfield. If he's going to be great joy. I think he's going to be in the league for a decade yes. I don't know if he's going to be great josh allen. There wasn't great success wyoming. He just had all the attributes. You want to quarterback to go around the room. What we learned on the program thanh. What did you learn today in case you may have forgotten the poll choice for your favorite season include spring summer fall winter mclovin. Would you learn john. Oates said if daryl hall get sick. He's got a new lead singer to work with. I'm going to hold on to that seat and o'connor continue making dreams come true. Danny thank you seton. Paulie would you learn the name of the band. 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147: 99 Luftballons

How Good It Is

12:11 min | Last week

147: 99 Luftballons

"Hey guys welcome to the next episode of how good it is the show that takes a closer look at songs from the rock and roll era and we check out some of the stories behind the songs than today. We're look up at ninety. Nine left belongs. Hi there. i'm claude called boy. Did i miss you guys. Let's do some trivia. This is a quick one for ye. One of these artists had a number one hit in the uk as a solo artist in the nineteen seventies. In fact it was. The biggest hit of the year in which it was released was that performer. John oates of hall and oates art garfunkel of simon and garfunkel or dash crofts of seals and crofts. I will have that answer and the song in question near the end of the show. Okay i think we need to get a couple of rumors out of the way before we go anywhere first name. His name isn't nayna although this isn't like blondie where everybody calls. Debra harry blondie even though it's the name of the band not the performer. Nayna is called nayna publicly but her real name is gabriella karner. Second nayna did not commit suicide in the nineteen eighties. I don't know where that one came from. But the really weird thing is that. When i started doing the research for this episode and trying to track down that rumor well it turned out that the first week of september two thousand twenty one just as i started researching another death hoax about her began spreading on social media happily as a record this she is alive and well. Let me say this about this song if your entry to. It was ninety nine red balloons than i feel. Very sorry for you my friend because the original german version is definitely better in fact the whole album which is also titled. Nina is a banger. When i was in college. I worked in college. Radio and i played a few tracks off that album. Just because i like the way they sounded and it didn't hurt that my girlfriend was a german major and she could tell me what the songs were about since the lyrics printed on the inner sleeve or also in german. Which didn't really help me any so this song. Well stuff off. This album really reminds me of her. and for what. It's worth mr. Mr kerrey which i talked about an episode one. Twenty six also reminds me of her and there are two other songs. But i don't think i'll do episodes on those two. Maybe i'll reveal those in the newsletter if you ask nicely ninety nine left belongs as song about brinkmanship and the way that ridiculously small things can escalate into full-scale wars. The basic premise of the song in german is that someone in a radar shacks. He's a bunch of balloons. Come up on their radar screen and marks them as unidentified flying objects both sides scrambled fighter jets and go to full alert because they think the other side is launching an attack. This leads to an all out. War lasting ninety nine years and at the end of the song is picking through the rubble and she finds a balloon. She says she thinks of you. And she lets it fly knowing the english version. Nayna and you the listener go into a toy store and buy the balloons which are subsequently. Let go and then identified as threats. The planes are scrambled. And there's a conflict but the how long is it really clear but it's also ended up in a lot of destruction name is looking around for some sign that humanity was there and she finds that single red balloon. So where did this story originate. Well believe it or not with the rolling stones guitarist. Carlo cargoes was addy rolling stones concert in west berlin in nineteen eighty two when he noticed that balloons were being released. Now remember. this is back when the berlin wall was still a thing and part of the city was controlled by the soviet union card. Just watch this massive balloons float away and change shape looking like strange spacecraft and he began to wonder what would happen if they floated past the berlin wall over into east germany. And therefore elver soviet airspace. The band also related a story from nineteen seventy three. That was part of their inspiration. Some high school students in nevada staged a prank by tying a hundred mylar balloons together to a traffic flare. One of the balloons got away before the launch. They had ninety nine balloons on this setup. The flare was lit and the balloons launched and the red flame from the flair made the reflective balloons look like a big pulsating red object floating over red rock canyon. Actually did find the story in the newspaper archive bot i was thwarted by paywall son. Contenting myself with the fact that there is an article hope and did actually happen now. There is a subtext to the song as well because germans are good at that sort of thing. It's also about the dreams of the german people. Which were snuffed out. After world war two ended and in that interpretation balloons represent the dreams that the people had and how they were shattered and at the end of the song. She's looking to prove that. The german people did in fact have dreams by finding a balloon any balloon and she does find one balloon. That's wondering and she lets it go. The song was first released in germany. Of course in one thousand nine hundred three and the record company really didn't have any intention of releasing the song in america until a disc jockey at k. r. o q in los angeles got a hold of the song and started playing now as i noted earlier college radio stations such as mine. Were already playing the record. So it's entirely possible that this disc jockey heard from college station and picked up on it for his station. On nina eventually recorded an english version of the song with the title translated into ninety nine red balloons and that was released in the united states for that version. The lyrics were translated into english by kevin mckelway. Who is mostly known for working with kate. Bush and david gilmour now whether you heard the english version or the german version while it was climbing the charts. They're really dependent on where in the country lib basically it was the german version. That was the hit. And that's the one that made it all the way up to number two on the billboard hot one hundred chart in march of nineteen eighty-four the song that kept it out of the number one position was jumped by van. Halen and i guess it's worth mentioning that ninety nine left. Volognes is not the highest charting german song on the billboard chart only two years later falco's rock me. Amadeus made it all the way to number one. The german version also made it to number one in australia new zealand japan and most of europe. It was a top ten hit in spain and a top twenty five in poland fallow. Now it's kind of interesting to me that the most prominent covers of this song both on by nina in two thousand two. The band released a cover which had a little more of a power ballad. Feel to it of. This version was included on their album titled nayna featuring lineup for what it's worth. I rather liked this cover. And incidentally if you're looking for a good translation from the german to the english go look for this song on youtube and find the official version captions already there. You don't have to turn them on hustle advas- then zing from nine nine. Then in two thousand nine. The band cut another version which was a little bit closer to the original. I love dick cornell as she. It originally aired as part of a european special called summer of the eighties which aired on the european arteta channel. The video itself was animated with eight that art. Because it was meant to have a throwback look to it and because it was meant to have a pan-european feel to it some of the verses were sung in french and i'll tell you what that song has been around for forty years now and gabriella colonels voice has not changed appreciably. In all that time. I know my voice isn't the same today as it was then and she's got a couple of years on not many but a couple now. These aren't the only covers of the song. Of course there was a german version by the group. Kaleida which was recorded and used in the two thousand seventeen phil atomic blonde but no other version is really penetrated the public consciousness and one more bit of ninety nine left balloons trivia for you before we move on in two thousand six the cable station. Vh one ran a fundraiser. For hurricane katrina relief where viewers who made donations could choose which videos the station would play. One view donated thirty five thousand dollars and requested. Continuous play of both ninety. Nine left belongs and ninety nine red balloons for an hour. The station took his money and then they ran the song repeatedly from two. Am to three am on the morning of march twenty. Six two thousand six and now it's time to answer our trivia question back on page two. I asked you which three artists who were. Typically part of a duo had a huge hit in the uk in the nineteen seventies. And you got to choose from dash crofts art garfunkel and john oates well that would be art garfunkel who had the biggest hit of nineteen seventy nine in the uk with his song. Bride is which came from the animated film watership down. It spent six weeks in the number one slot over there and sold over a million copies in fact the song was a pretty big hit. All over europe landing mostly in the top five here in the united states didn't even crack the hot one hundred although it did peak at number twenty nine on the adult contemporary chart and that my friend is a full live on another edition of how good it is. You are enjoying the show. Please take the time to share it with someone and maybe even leave a rating somewhere. Now you support the show over patriot. Dot com slash. How good it is if you want to get in touch with the show you can email me at how good podcast g mail dot com or you can follow the show on twitter or instagram. At how good it is. You can also visit like and follow the show. Facebook page at facebook dot com slash. How good it is pot or you can check out. The show's website. How good it is dot com. We might find a few extra bits next time around. We're gonna find out how good it is. When i talk to john hall again only this time. It's face to face. Thanks for listening. I'll talk to you next time.

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Daryl Hall and Danny Bennett - Summer Staff Picks

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1:12:22 hr | Last month

Daryl Hall and Danny Bennett - Summer Staff Picks

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Celebrate every day with sweet treats from edible and it's okay and that means bordering thirty cheesecakes the just for you go to dot com today for same day delivery today i'm kerry donahue and this is here's the thing from iheartradio and i'm alec baldwin and this is here's the thing from iheartradio. Oh hey alec your back back back. Yes keri summers over. And i have returned. Did you miss me. of course. we'll listen thanks to you. And the rest of the team hosting our archival episodes over the summer and now it's your turn to highlight some favorites right. Yes we're going to revisit to conversations. I loved daryl hall from hall and oates and danny bennett. Tony bennett son and longtime manager. Sounds like a great pairing glad. You're back alec. Owen kerry before you go. We should tell listeners for the next couple of months we'll be releasing episodes every other week. Good idea and done take it away. Alec now onto two of my favorite conversations from the archives. Tony bennett has a timeless style. He celebrated his ninety fifth birthday. The summer of two sold out shows had radio city musical and as always he brought the house down. He even has a new album coming out. This fall called love for sale. Tony bennett plan to play more live dates but the legendary showman recently received a devastating warning from his doctor. No more live shows. That's going to be a shift for tony. Son danny bennett as well. Danny has been his father's manager for decades a job. He describes as managing a legacy as much as a career. But first we're revisiting my two thousand nineteen conversation with daryl hall with partner. John oates hall. An open is the best selling vocal duo in history. They have seven platinum albums and another six gold once they made the billboard hot one hundred thirty four times with mega hits mike man eater which girl you make my dreams come true and i can't go for that daryl hall has sort of second career on television. Two shows live from daryl's house and darryl's restoration overhaul on the diy network. Daryl hall started singing on the streets in philadelphia. So i started at a really young age. Doing you know like busking more. Like the do op. You know street-corner music. There was no instruments involved acapella and all that and it was always very racially integrated. You know that. Whole thing. And then when i went to philly i had already been involved in that stuff and there was this place called mytton hall where all everybody hung out. It was like deplace where the whole temple university wet and people used to stand in the corners and sing. It was that kind of stuff was still going on. So i just walked up one day and started singing along with these strangers. And that's how i got into philadelphia and started Bit at a time when we in my mind. When i think about philadelphia then i think about a lot of racial difficulties in move and historically not not for you. I'm saying the city has always had kind of a racial stratification. It seems like what was it about you that these people welcomed you open arms. I just think. I grew up in a very racially integrated environment you know in pottstown. There's a big black community and my my parents best friends lived right in the middle of the black neighborhood. So i as as a kid. I'm talking like kid kid for the summer. I'd be over there and all my waking hours really. I would be hanging out with white nba kids together. So the music that i grew up with was that our b-e-n-s-o-n music It was really my baby food you know and and it just went that way often. Your dad was a musically and he was a vocal group sang. He sang like gospel. Vocal group and he I learn a lot about harmony from him and my mother was a musician. She did other kinds of music. You know she musicals and she was in a band so very musical environment. Let me just put these cards on the table. Which is you are one of the ten greatest male vocalists and all history of rock and roll. I mean you are and what kills me is like how you've stayed because a lot of these guys have to drop it a key and we interview a lot of my you name it and only you and bano pretty much sound the same now. Almost first of all. I do on stage. I drop a half aquino can i do so i admit it. But but that's that's cool too. It gives me more room to play around up top but the you know voice has changed a lot over the years you listen to those records that i made you know rich girl and all this kind of songs. I'm like a little boy compared to the way i sing. No i have. I sort of have the voice now i always wanted to have. It's that bigger masculine voice. I know and yeah so. But i i like how voices evolved. And i haven't lost any of the stuff that i had i just. It's a sort of got bigger and wider. Did you start singing. When did singing. My mother was as i said she was in a band. But she was also vocal teacher and things like that and encouraged her and she. It was sort of always there and she taught me how to sing. Did they both play instruments. Yeah my mother. Play piano. And i started taking piano lessons around five and took lessons all the way through and then unfortunately was got in Was i once i got into. I was forced forced to play the trombone but that it lasts long but no i've been playing piano since five and then i started playing guitar. Self taught on the qatar. How old were you when you picked up the qatar for maybe late teens early twenty s. When you go then you go to temple the study music y well at first i was going to go. I didn't think there was any money in In in music at all didn't even occur to me and to have a career in music. So i was going to be. I was a. I wanted to be psychiatrist. Why because i was really interested in the life of the mind and i was up against these. I didn't realize my niveau tape that you had to be a doctor. Do his a medical degree. I quit. I wanted. And then i was up against all these kids that were like premed and i failed miserably. It was just horrible i. This is not from the same problem i was like. I have to study chemistry. Just i just want to talk to people. Yeah man what happened. Was i did that for a year. And then i switched to the temple music school and they you know they'll let me in and finished graduate. I finished well i quit. I quit five weeks before graduation. Because i was a student teacher and i was up early in the morning all day doing all that stuff and then i had a a a barg plan. Play music bar band at night till two o'clock in the morning so i didn't work out so well and the teacher said you know we have to choose one or the other and i thought to myself. Do i wanna music teacher or do i want to be a musician for real and there was no choice in my head so i said okay see later by when you leave temple when you when you finish school What happens after that. During my time in temple as i said the whole thing was sorta simultaneous. I was going to music school. But i was also hanging out with tommy bell and People who don't know tommy bell was was the producer and writer behind. Oh a great number of the philadelphia sound stylistics and the phonics and people like that He was very very influential on the sound of philadelphia and he sort of took me under his wing. He was not that much older than me. But but i would just sit around and listen to him right and he was an amazing writer and so i was friendly with him and then i also i. I had a band. The sort of came out of that thing. I was talking about in in mid all and we call ourselves the temp tones. Because we're temple university. Everybody thought it was the temptation. Weird temple and We did a talent show at the uptown theater which was not that far from the university from the campus and it was on what they used to call the chiller circuit. And you know every soul group on. Earth came to the uptown. It was follow. And i used to hang out there and Just like the apollo talent shows and we won the talent show. And james brown's band was the house band back us up. That was i was like eighteen years old. I'm singing baby. Baby with james brown's band back and we won the talent show and the prize. Was you got to record a record with gamble and huff. The songwriters songwriter producers. Who gamble enough. And tommy bell basically created what the world knows as the sound of philadelphia. I did record with gambling. Huff and it came out and and and went on the charts in w das in philadelphia. The army station and I was doing all this while going to school. And so i became part of that whole scene. that's the i started hanging out at sigma sound with studio musicians and i. I wanted to be a student. -sition wanna learn things from them. So that's what. I was doing during white student years. And in the meantime. I met this guy. John oates who are in university. We met going to temple. Yeah we we were really from. He's from about fifteen miles from me. In north wales pennsylvania just north of north west of philadelphia so We were both promoting our singles because he had he managed to get a single to on kenny. Gamble's label He had a group called the masters. And we were both promoting are single at this place called adelphi ballroom and Before either one of us went on It was gang fight broke god. This whole thing went down typical philadelphia and it was on. It was on a second floor. And you know people started whipping chains out and the whole bit. Oh typical like. I say tip all-too-typically philadelphia that time and we said okay time to leave timely so i didn't even know the guy and we both wound up in this little elevator going downstairs as well okay. We just dodged that bullet. And i was looking today so you you know. And i found out right then that he was also at temple. I said oh man. Okay you know because i figured kindred spirits here and we sort of got to know each other that way and Then i need i don't. This is a little vague in my mind. But i needed a roommate because i was. I wanted to have an apartment philly and he volunteered. So we we got this. Havi diskette moving. Yeah we we moved in and we start sharing apartments and we did that on and off through school without any idea that we were gonna work together. We there was no plan. you know we just. He was your roommate among the bar partner. Anything and so. After after school is over. I became a full-time studio musician. At sigma for the whole sound of philadelphia. People and john wants to europe for a little while came back had no place to live and moved in again with me and my new. I guess she was my wife at the time. And we we renovated this eighteenth century house right in the center philadelphia. Lived in it for awhile and that's when we decided at the beginning of that bug for you as well. Yeah yeah goodwin talking about that. Yeah and we decided okay. We were in close proximity so we started playing together and said well. Maybe we should try doing something. Let's share a stage. Let's you your songs. I play my songs and we'll doom together. When does songwriting began view. Windy decide you want to write songs around. I th i think. I wrote a song i was about fourteen. The and i thought okay. Maybe i can write a song. And i do remember. The name of it was called. I broke my own heart. Does that a weird title. No actually haven't we all done. That happened at fourteen hundred. I know that was your first song. That's the first song song. I brought my own heart and when did you write your songs recorded That was that song girl. I love you with attempt. Illinois and That was. I don't how how was nineteen. I guess recording contract you got from winning the yeah so windy you and he started to. How do you. And he refused to become what you become. We didn't it we. It's hard to describe. We were just trying to write. We tried to write songs together but it was mostly. He would write songs that i write songs. And we and we do him on stage together and we played at this place called World control headquarters which all a hundred people and we became sort of a fixture there. There was another guy you could do anything he wanted there. I would sit there with. My world's for piano and mandolin and john would play acoustic guitar. We would just tell stories and play songs it was. It was sort of in that folk tradition but it wasn't folk. Music was something else and we did that. And we got we start in a following doing it. And i remember one of the first things that happened was was all kids right because we we were kids but then these older people started coming. What i thought were older. People like forty fifty. You know and i'm already. And i remember and this is late sixties and i remember saying john you know. This is really strange. Older people like our music to not just people are on age that maybe we're doing something different. I i actually said that to him on number forget it and now of course it's the reverse younger kids like what i do and the older people have lived with it right so it's always been multigenerational multicultural. There's something able to like what's good i well. I don't know whatever it is. It's some of your songs. pretty good. Well me do that. Yeah good yeah the multigeneration happens. Yeah i guess it does. Sure i'm assuming that you meet someone. Who's a producer like as your dessert produces the cut into your life that takes you to the next level that helps you make the sound becomes your sound. Yeah who's not up a reef morton. The producer arranger behind aretha franklin. And you name a donny. Hathaway retha franklin a man and on and on and on and on. I can't even tell you his his his enable was atlantic his and he found. You wear Well that's another long story but we have time. I'll try and truncated but we were locked in. This messed up relationship with songwriter. Producer guy in philadelphia. We were trying to get an album deal and he was failing miserably and he was involved with chapel music new york through his catalog and we went up to new york. One time and met this young kid who is only twenty named tommy mottola two years younger than us and and he said hey will. Is this guy not doing anything for you. Let me do something for you. He's twenty years old. And we want your boy so he had connections because he had an office the size of this table in chapel music but he did have contact so he sent us out to california to have a chapel rep. Take us around to various people in california and we sort of planned for them. Additioning basically and we found this guy earle mcgrath who was really great guy and was into sort of developing new talent and he wanted to sign us immediately which was great and then he was connected with hamad arrogant at all those people in atlantic and he sent us back to atlantic and we auditioned for ahmet and i sat there at a piano and the half. The keys were stuck. They wouldn't work so this was my big my big dam in front of atlantic records. I couldn't play. I think i had the flu. Somebody spilled lassus on the pm. So i played badly and we sang a couple of songs. And i thought okay. We blew that completely. Two days later. I found out that they had called herald said earl. We want these guys. They're not going to be on. Your label are going to be in our label and they signed to atlantic records so then we were off to a start of some sort. We were immediately thrust into. I mean i completely was thrust into a different group of musicians. All those atlantic studio musicians Everybody from doctor. John too Purdy you know ralph macdonald to y- you name it though that that whole new york are and be seen and they were all unbelievable musicians and they're the guys that played one our first records Especially on the bench that record. I mean that's the musicianship with record is unbelievable. So i was in that world in that scene. I mean aretha was wandering in and out and bob dylan was wandering in and out. I mean we're just doing what's going on. It's a big machinery in admitted it's atlantic records back when people were buying records. They choose you if they believe in you and they get their marketing behind you. It's kind of hard to fail. Correct some talent well. It wasn't quite like that. Not in those days it was. It was still a lot freer and looser and i remember at sand to me and john he said just just make just make music will figure out how to sell it. That's what he said and he's a don't worry about it so don't worry about it. The that's he said don't literally said that. Don't worry about hits managing. It's do you just do what you'll make to what you do. But they didn't. That was the thing. We were a little strange for the world at that time. We're i won't say we're ahead of our time. We were out of our time but so we. I don't know what what what was all. We were doing hybrid of philadelphia. Soul and other kinds of r. and b. and mixed with this other eclectic kind of thing that john brought in like country music and all kinds of stuff singer songwriter. Kind of things and dance music. You name it it was. Hybrid is and and also in those days. They had no idea how to label us because we were popular on black radio not even known on white radio and the whole idea of musical integration was not ready for the world. I mean we were. We were pioneers in that daryl hall. 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Or if you love cake try buoy butter cake. Which is oozing with rich butterscotch sauce from the chocolate to the fruity and more each flavor is made from scratch using a recipe from founder jenny. A james beard award winning ice cream maker and she doesn't cut corners when it comes to ingredients in fact you won't any chemical dyes flavorings off the shelf. Ice cream mixes in these points by janis. One of a kind ice creams including more than a dozen gluten free dairy free flavors at scoop shops and grocery stores nationwide and online at jenny's dot com. That's j. e. n. i s. dot com jenny's makes it better. I'm alec baldwin and this is here's the thing it was one thousand nine hundred seventy six call and oates were signed to atlantic records. But they didn't have any big hits to show for it they soon left for. Rca which quickly released sara smile it. An rn be hit and then a crossover hit from there. Holland took off. I enjoyed touring especially because we became popular all over the world. Very early right. I mean england embrace us like from the beginning from seventy five. seventy four. seventy five is when we started planning in england and so we started doing a lot of touring in europe. And that it just you know opens up your brain. I'm where kids right. We had a lot of change. You and him sex. Symbolism rock stardom. It was fame. If you're in your mid to late twenties and you're running around the world and people are throwing their whatever at you You indulge unless you're crazy you know. I took advantage of of whatever was fun. Man byun the one thing though. I was never into cocaine. I just didn't have a very sensitive nervous system. It doesn't work for me. So why. But i didn't let that stuff but i i did it just. I didn't like it so you guys were dance around coq daddy brains and i was completely home sleeping. Taking i was asleep sex drugs and rock and roll without the drugs. But when you go on tour get sick of it. You could sick of the attention. Do you get sick going on the road. You mean now then meaning when you're resting and everything's becoming this huge icicle act. I mean look at each other and go. I really wanna stop for a while. It's you know it's funny. i look back at. It feels like. I had more time off than i do now. I don't know why i must have. I felt like i. I would go out and i would tour and i would go balls to the wall for whatever a month and we've worked you know every day no days off and and i would take all in everything you know. Stay up all stay up late. Do you know do everything you can imagine. And then then we'd stop and then we wouldn't be doing anything of than going to a studio go into studio or write and prepare to go on the road more now like most acts go on the road more now because that's really the only can make real money. Yeah i mean to buying any. I tour all the time and i i'm busy. I'm much busier now than i was in fact. I don't have time to make record as that. I've i've been trying to make a record. And i have to do it. In little dribs and drabs in starts and stops. And i it to try and get into a flow is really really hard was your was there. I'm gonna assume there was there a spot in your queries other go this man and we've this is the top that happens very seldom but it did happen. There was a period of a very small period of time in nineteen eighty five. Where we did we are the world i played. I reopened the apollo theater with the live aid and Just we'll just use those three things all within a month and a half. And i remember thinking to myself okay. I feel like i'm here. I'm doing something right. Now that i know is significant thing this is experiencing it. I'm i'm here now. Be here now yes. That's that's one of the few times several habits. So take me through december shorthand. What the tour is like into the evening the show. Is there a prep. Udu or kind of is a vocal thing. You do talk all day. Something what. I what i do is i lay in bed all day. I just read all day. hang out. don't do anything About who late afternoon. I might power nap and then i wake up and drink a whole shitload of tea. Green tea to really wake myself. Up as all this preparation toward this crescendo. And then i get to a gig. Never more than an hour before the show. Put on mega talk to the band. Laugh with ban have a couple of drinks. Hit the stage and That's that's the highland all the time same band tank rehearsals involved. You guys not much together a long time. We know we really sell to. Whereas most of the work you do touring now with john or fifty. fifty No most of its with john john. Yeah i do do the occasional solo stuff. But no it's mostly john these days anyway and is scheduling between the two of us. Is it easy both in the same kind of groovy know when you want to go out time of year when we work this out. We both like the same. Kind of touring schedule. We're you'll work very much the same when it comes to that yet. Yeah we have a good relationship. John and i do my tv show. That's that's something else. How do you get people to come to a house in upstate. New york you tell me man it. It's the people who've had shows one of the most gratifying things. Every in my life that i could get smokey robinson to come to a meeting in new york up there which is twenty miles north of here. Take time off his schedule. Art sitcom and do it. He was one of the first ones. Whose idea was it to do this thing on. And how did it start. I just thought let's just turn everything upside down. You know instead of me and make studio up there. Every everything is opposite. I instead of me going around the world i bring the world to me. There is no audience and all these people would just come and i will only had this internet show. It was it was very small. Nobody knew about it but these people are coming from all over the world to do this then it caught on and then it became a little easier to book. But still do you release the recordings of these can be or is only lives because otherwise you have to pay them and pay rights to the one thing. People don't realize how expensive this show is because of clearances right. We had such a hard time with that over the years especially in the beginning once we established than it was sort okay but it was really really difficult because i was in there. Totally innocent either. Okay this promotion for the record. Companies now promotion for the artist. Why should they not want this but they were looking at it like we were napster. You know like we were taking money out of their pockets. And i was thinking. What money am i taking out of your pocket. I'm helping you. I'm giving you free promotion but forget about it we lawyers. We had to deal with record people we had to deal with managers and everybody wanted their thing and the clearances. It became so high cost. It's a very it's a very hard show to and you haven't cut a record of a given. No thank god that would be so hard to do what it would be almost impossible because so many people would have to get things. Everybody's publisher would have to get some artists every label. And oh god but so. I guess my idea that i have. I have an idea and want to produce with you. I guess my idea for you isn't gonna fly. Would that be having seen the springsteen thing phenomenon. That was my idea for you to do at darul south on broadway. You're on way and for one week. Each artists comes on and plays a whole week of shows with you and every week it changes another group. And you do it on broadway. Well that would be doable. Okay here's broadway stewart. We we've been spending five years. We got to the point where this guy Was was writing a book. The guy that did rock of ages. Chris di renzo. Somebody's thrown down a shitload of money. And we read chris's book and everybody thinks it sucks so we're back to square one after five years so i'm ready for. I'm ready for new ideas. You're welcome thank you. That is a good idea. You're making a fucking with a lot of work for me though. I know you don't want to work i to work. You wanna flip houses. I hate broadway man. You gotta play all those fucking days two days wednesday or they easy as well. Let's see let's see. Let's look over to your on that show. There's some people. I see who come there and they really kinda rise to the occasion. Yes you somebody who. I know a little bit. I worked with them years. Ago is kevin bacon. And i've always had kevin pegged as somebody who's as cools cucumber and yet even kevin when he sing with his brother when the morning comes. You can almost see a piece of kevin. There's a little glint of it was like. I can't believe. I'm singing when the morning comes with daryl hall. That was a fun show. I mean kevin lives near here. And i've known kevin outside of the the stuff but there's two different kinds of people there's brand new people who are looking at me like they have to get over that you know and and you know what i mean. The some of these people just had their first record and they can't believe they have to do this stuff on their feet. They're not used to it and to see them. Rise to the cajun blows me away. I just i feel very Paternal about him. Yes that's the right word. And then there's the veterans who are used to doing things their own way and used to do in these arrangements. They've been doing for thirty years in forty years. Well there's there's a perfect one. In fact i had a call him out on the show about it. Look and see that because he was trying to make it into the like his live show and i know this is darryl this forgetting. Let's do this do it with what you've been doing. A good thing can change is good. Change is good and it's funny to see. The veteran artists adapt to this own spot. Their brains are going like this. It's fun talked me about flipping houses which your term for restoration Losing a whole lot of money has that's right offs. No i wish now. My other personality is totally immersed in history and i grew up in old houses. I grew up with a family of people who worked on houses and lived in old houses outside of philadelphia. It's you know historic. I live near valley forge for had sake. I grew up in those kind of houses. Seventeen hundred houses and everything. I used to go on job. Sites with my grandfather who used was a stonemason and a brick person used to restore chimneys and do all that kind of thing and and actually build houses to and so i would watch the construction of these things and i was very. I don't know. I really really liked that world. It because it's it's not that dissimilar to music in some strange way it's making something out of nothing. It's you know the that whole old saw about architectures frozen music. What's the first project you did in that regard of the village apartment with john. Well yeah that was a whole house. That was the first one. The house this house whisk was taken over by people who i guess just. I don't even know what it was ruined. They they basically gutted the house but it was a house from about eighteen hundred and one of those small philadelphia houses. They call them father son. Holy ghost houses because his three rooms on three floors. It's very typical small house in philly. We were faced with a shell of this house so i basically got in there and started renovating it and we did. We renovated it. I don't know how much john to do with it although he he likes this kind of thing as well he actually became general contractor but he built his house. You went to school for it. But he doesn't do historic houses. My thing is is historic houses. And how many have you done. I've done that one. I'd done to in england to restoring houses in england. You're living over there. Oh yeah well. I live in england as much as luna america to you reeling outside of london. I live in ca- why i don't know i. I've family there Well my family is partly from england but also by british wife and british kids now. How many kids do you have. i have to. And they were in england once in london and one was just wasn't in charleston south carolina with me for a while and she's now moving to la anybody in the music business the kits both of them. They're both the one of them work with you. Yeah march my daughter. She really good musician. We wrote a song a week ago. You're not married now. No but wasn't one of your wives your partner and that was the restoration of the houses amanda. She's unfortunately gone. She died almost a year ago but I'm sorry to hear that well. Yeah she was did a lot of interior design things like that so we worked with a good partner for the issue. Really good about that we. There's a house about three miles from here that we that we worked on now. I'm finishing it. so do you own all your publishing. You have all your publishing no i. I was very stupid. Like many people are over the years. But i let's say at the end. I twenty five percent of my polish. You do. yeah it's a. That's a tough reality for some people isn't i was i was so stupid. I can't believe it. I didn't i didn't know i didn't know what it meant. I didn't know that men everything and when you would write songs you told me that you and he it was it was more. He do his thing. You do your thing. I mean truthfully. I've written the bulk of the songs i mean. I notice when i read the but also a lot of this stuff a lot of the the if you look at songwriting credits. A lot of the the were very haphazardly. Attributed you know but We did. I mean that's not to denigrate what we've done together for sure. Giovanni connection now currently philadelphia and that that area mak there. I have a familial connection. My most of my family got there in the early seventeen. Hundreds of never left daryl hall scholarship but the nocera i do have a. I do have a star on broad street. I got that and every year john. I do a festival. Philly called hoagie nation literally. When is that what time of year memorial day weekend. It's a region that's defined by. Its fast food. it's new york without ego. It's so elegant. There's so much either. I love philadelphia actual place. Yeah let me just finish with this. Which is why do you think is that you can sing the way that you can. It has to do with your brain works you know. I'm very spontaneous singer. I'm a very free singer and you don't know where you're going to go. I'm gonna you know once it's not intellectual there is no thought involved is total spontaneity. I'm just a bird that still open my and chirpin away. And i've been lucky enough to be blessed with the physiology to pull that off singer and songwriter. Daryl hall to hear the full episode of this conversation go to. Here's the thing dot. Org danny bennett has spent the past thirty years managing the career of his father. Tony pens danny helped introduce his father to a younger generation of fans through appearances on mtv. Snl and the simpsons he also hatched the idea for a series of bestselling duets albums. Which featured tony bennett with. The likes of lady gaga delete joe barbra streisand and amy white house danny produced a documentary called the xenon bennett which follows his dad. Throughout the recording of the duets two album was born in the bronx raised in englewood new jersey. You grew up in the bronx to you know just like you know like two weeks and then you guys went englewood englewood new jersey angle. It was an amazing place. It's literally fifteen minutes from midtown rate across josiah washington bridge and i was born in nineteen fifty four fifty nine now and it was a very exciting time. You had a lot of artists from kind of the showbiz biz thing. There was tony dick sean. Joey bishop There were just there because the th they would just tony would come and do his sessions in the city a columbia studios and then the jam session would continue in my house So they were just like. Hey let's go back to the house. He had like a little in. When i say the basement it was an above ground basement kind of thing in as a little kid i wake up to the strains of like count basie than just amazing starts when you were a kid. I suppose most people would assume or those your childhood memories of being awash in music of that period. Well you know i. It's i often say now. I feel like forrest. Gump i mean i. I don't know why. I had an appreciation for the moment. I as a kid just did. It wasn't just music besides being able to sit on the piano stool with duke ellington. I mean that's crazing. But i remember sitting on my dad's lap at a political rally with jfk running for president. You know at the teaneck armory. He's sitting in back. There's jack kennedy giving a speech. And i'm seeing all the placards you know. So it's like. I'm always seeing the back side of things which is an interesting perspective because it's it's just a image burn my brain i. What was i greater. Nine years old. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah and so. It's those kind of things or louis. Armstrong and carol channing at the white house. it's like what's that or so people who sang standards saying Whether they were broadway tunes there were standards by the herald orleans of the world and so forth. But music for you. Your personal music was dad. Going to the studio with count basie and you had an electric guitar and sing and strawberry fields. I mean when. I was ten years old. The beatles hit that was it for me and my brother plays drones immediately. I found an old guitar and my dad's closet and he's been trying to learn guitar for a long time. I gravitated officials. No he's going to get it eventually. I'm telling you anyway. It was like a goya nylon string guitar. And he had a book of twenty five hundred cores one of those things. And i just. I was so upset. Meet the introducing the beatles record and i'd put the needle down and then like like go through the book and just like match the cord with the sound of the record. Oh it's a g cord. And that's how i learned by ear to play. What was the name of your band. Craggy duck right right your brother and you have quirky duck and you were how old sixteen your teenagers garage manager teenagers now and then but at that same time do you still have this kind of bicameral relationship with music. There's your dad and his music and that's a presence in your life. You never any of a fondness for the of course it appreciation for it and then you're playing your yeah. Some people don't necessarily ella fitzgerald necking cole. Louis armstrong i mean these are royal royalty in huge influences on us and obviously you know we all have our icons and a tony got has his icons and rightfully so we're gonna get to vote but you're there and what happens as you finish highschool. Is there a time that you put down on musical. When was that well. I mean we were extremely serious about it. You know when it was like we rehearsed on the weekends. I wanna school. We did it and it's interesting because we were never kind of into sports and that's what we did at a very early age. You know we were doing like high school dances and and really i gotta be honest with you. I haven't learned much since then. You know we learned how to like. Oh wait a minute. You know what. We're selling tickets. And i remember going to the student union. You'd get paid two hundred bucks. Which was a great in the sixties. A lot of money. So we we we of made it on her own and the the student unions go Two hundred bucks. And i'm like staying over so the tickets to the show so i i would go to the student unions i go. Hey look i tell you you know what you guys are always on the line. And don't if you're gonna make any money no no guarantee. We'll take a cut of the door. We'll take eighty you take twenty where this is a highschool highschool mr. They're going like well. That's cool great. Yeah we're gonna get our ass kicked at the end of the night. I'm making twenty five hundred bucks and they're going like whoa wait a minute so then. I just kind of like went from one school to another and finish highschool. Where'd you go. We we had to deal with one or brothers records. Kansas city and you know with I mean crown. Parsons greg horse. He was a good friend of ours. We toured with him. And you know we were like those are our heroes At the time. And that's where. I met bonnie and john prien and you had this kind of really extraordinary wealth because also his original tour manager was a guy named anthony. He ended up being the the penultimate like rock manager and invented the triumphant of promoter. Bill graham anthony and agent Frank barcelona and they brought all these artists in from england and we spent. I was raised at fillmore. We were kind of an art band. We played it maxes with the modern lovers in the new york dolls and and and we just said let's come up with the most ridiculous name we can possibly come up with because we thought the beatles was kind of a ridiculous name right so we were kind of making fun of that so we were serious about that were built studios and did that kind of thing and it just got to a point where you know you know when you got it and you know when you don't. I was always so enamored by especially the people. I worked with in other writers in my band. I'd go like i. I was kind of really good at like saying. Wow that's a great song. And i found that that was my real talent. That's interesting yeah. And then when does one day someone say. Danny it's you. You're gonna start becoming involved. Misbehave tony inc. Well you know it's interesting did happen in a day. Is there an event kind of an. I can pinpoint when tony kinda got on like wait a minute. He may know what's going on the beatles for me. Was you know. I was obsessed. Not only the art of it but the you know the the social aspect of it. The marketing of marketing was fun. It was in a bad word the balance between art and commerce. Whose bennett is about. It's always been interesting to me. The beatles always thought the two minute and forty seconds that they had that was their canvas and how best to make that work. I love that concept. I love the constraints. Well tony always says there's free form you gotta learn form before you can be free. And there's a lot to that they couldn't have done. Hey jude without doing all those great songs. That boom there they are. Don't get to the chorus but but still maintain the art so moving into a time when tony was Again we we grew up around. You know it was just immersed so you know the dinner table. Their conversations were about what was happening at columbia records. Oh my god. Clive davis he was. You know became president of the first attorney. It was freaky thing as very tuned into that you know but sinatra didn't make any of his daughter is sun the his right hand man would have never happened right when we don't have to go there but your dad did. Yeah well. he was at a point. Where the thing at columbia they try to know. This happened to everyone barbara strike and it was like. Oh you got to seeing the bills carrying sang barbra streisand. They tried to get barber to sing. Bob dylan i in one thousand nine hundred sixty nine. She's listening to dylan blowing in the wind. This wing in both wins. The answer is below weighing in the win. You know brilliant idea. That's a great one must go again barbara. So anyways so tony. Actually you know worked with climbing and he did an album. That was kind of like that thing and he got physically sick. He said he was regurgitating between takes and so well. That's a great story that that he tells about. Clive davis right where killington went in. And said you know. He thought he was going to get a raise and clive davis said. Well i have some bad news for you. He goes What is it and clive zig. Well we're going to have to try to you from the label. Ellington goes well. Why says william not selling enough records and ellington goes. Oh i guess. I had it missed. I was mistaken. I thought i was supposed to make the records in. You're supposed to sell them. It's a great. Yeah that's my edict. Like and i've heard that story that's every artists but that that was my son said to me. Why do i hate making movies. And i said and i said you really hate making movies. I said well maybe hate stronger. I said i'm very uncomfortable. They say why 'cause you just feel the hand of commerce at your throat every day were chevy. It's never free and rarely fun. It can be challenging but you just feel like every dime is busy counted so they wanted your dad to do what he couldn't do. Yeah and he rebels against that just kind of like they gave him a big contract then he was like no. I don't do this. I wanna start label now now. This is at a time when people weren't doing that. I mean you know. I mean did it with more often. But it was done more on a warner brothers thing And he found Jack rollins Woody allen's manager in you know number of other people to work with them on a on. A label called improv. This is where he made the bill evans records in voice and piano. Those records being made at the time and so he came to me and talk to me about the label. And i said well. That's a great idea and you know it's risky. And he said well. What's risky about. And i said well. It doesn't seem like they have major distribution in this day and age independent distributions. Great you can do it. Internet about but then it was a real challenge. I said columbia's offering you to a distribution deal which is a great. You know it's just great. It's kind of like the leave you alone. You can do what you wanna do. He had me go. Talk to the guy was run a company in buffalo. So we'll go talk them now. You know. I got the long hair and a fringe jacket. And i i go to this. You know this. This hotel owner in buffalo. And i'm sitting there and he's thrown about and i start talking about the distributions it's great boom. There's some other things about the contract that i didn't like that i told them about you. Know in terms of him kind of getting roped into it and this guy just rejected that whole notion. So i went back to tony and i just said look i. I wouldn't do this i think. There's you know. So no improv records Well no he did it. And how long did that. Last it lasted like three years. And they failed because of the distribution right so he does improv records. And then because he can't get the records to distribute exactly. So that's what i told him. He remembered that and then the the label folded and then he was without a contract. For how long. Let's see i'd say three years years Well it's tough because a member at the time this is like around seventy eight okay sinatra retired. You didn't see geez our number one and streisand's doing too wet with the bees are saying. Yeah you know what i'm saying. So like there's that he didn't wanna do it and then he was in vegas and in those days you were doing vegas like you know the thirty two week thing and all that type stuff you know. He just called me up one. Dan just like. I don't know i need some help here. I don't know what to do. I don't know where to go manager. He wanted to be able to do his art on his terms and was vegas like for him. What is that like for someone. Because you always figure i remember reading nick. Taj is book dino about the best biographies of ever and they talked about how martin at one point in the sixties i believe was the highest paid entertainer in the world because he had the He touched every base. He stole four bases. He had a television show recording contract he started films and he appeared live in vegas concerts making millions and millions of dollars back and i was wondering for someone like your dad. I'm going to say that i actually. I don't know what vegas exemplify back. Then like for an actor was that like being on a game show or no no so there was. I mean the idea that you know. This is where they cut their teeth. The lounges louis. Prima in the lounge. You had a fred astaire and cary grant going to see sinatra and then go into the lounge and this is where the onus was like i you know and tony makes a good point these people. We didn't have access to these people except the big screen and all sudden. They're they are sitting there watching louis prima rubbing shoulders with with sinatra and jerry. Gran and whatever this was magic and for for again for tony got remember. Tony's ten years younger than all these guys. These are his idelson announcer. Call them the kid and there he is with them. All spread astaire salon a salon so and nobody messed around for the for the obvious reasons. And then you got into this this evolution where you know the sumo corporation and howard hughes took over and like i had negotiate with like howard using these cowboys. It was really interesting. Was that one. Oh so mazing. And this is like telling i i started working and like you know howard uses on the top of the desert end. I know he's up there. And so there was this guy named lenny they'd go in with me to negotiate the contract and let he'd get on his hands and knees f- seriously gonna lead to like get off knees. I'm not going to get on my knees in big for contract. I'm just not gonna do it. You know and again was he saying it's a santana cadogan. East is how it works here in vegas mr hughes. And he's got the big guys buying a desk or the big cowboy hat. And i'm like oh my god so i gotta tell tony and and here's a very interesting thing and sitting outside the and just like elementary bench. Some dude comes and sits next me an older guy and he's grumbling and i turn around and he's like never coming back to vegas again right. He's doing that kind of thing. I'm like what's up. I don't know you know they used to fly me out here. And he's the ballots are dropped fifty grand a pop but but man did they make me feel good about losing my money. This shows the girls. He's doing this. He goes they take it all away now. They don't wanna know me. I'm never coming back again. And i had an epiphany was like we gotta get out of this town. He's going down. So i went to tony and i said to him. Here's the gig. You gotta get town. I know this is. This is what you're gonna wear. And i said you go to the people. We're going to go to colleges what year seventy nine. This is the point in which you kind climb into the cockpit with this guy. Who's this legend. And you're twenty five years old. What you're teaching me. The conversation is that from the beginning. You were just saturated and inundated interested naturally not just in on a creative level but on a business level as well on on a technical level growing up as you know in that environment where kids were befriending me because the parents knew that if they befriended me maybe they could have dinner with tony. At the thing. I developed an early sense of cutting through the crap. My friends were injured. They weren't until right away. So i had this biffani. And i said you know what i want to run for president. I'm going to treat his campaign on it. I love history too. And i'm like i'm going to run. I want to do this. Like i'm running for president and i went to him and i said you know presidents would not go if they didn't have to go to ireland and you know shake dance. I go instead of having people. Come to you. In vegas i said your music transcends right and you can't do this with everybody and i and i haven't appreciation. You know watched tony when you know. How many times have you seen the show. He's reinventing himself. He's really kicking asked. I mean in terms of like taking chances. That's really rock and roll. He's taking chances in the rolling. Stones are getting older not really taking channels. And here's tony. What he calls moving furniture around and unlike people just got to see this. There's a transcendent quality and great art. That like he says defies demographics danny bennett on his father. 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Quip the good habits company. I'm alec baldwin and this is here's the thing when you have a career as long lasting unsuccessful as tony bennett. It's helpful to have people around who you can trust and danny bennett says. His father respected his opinion from a very young age. It's interesting because we never related that way. So he kind of related to me as an adult. Danny i wanna talk to you son. I don't want you to be my son. I want you to be my account treated you like you were. You were business. Associates produced partner at the age of twelve. He would come to me and go. Like i got this thing and by the don. What do you think he didn't do any. And you know what i mean. you know. it's like. I guess you know the turn-of-the-century kids at twelve and thirteen work in the fields. You know what i mean. They were doing. Yeah and i think a lot of that is working in the fields for you failed. you know. it wasn't like go throw a baseball and you know celebrity. We couldn't go to the zoo. It was impossible. I mean he took me to one movie plenty of the apes. I remember one movie. And that's okay. Daily will never go to the movies together. Again of the theater. Up there inglewood. Exactly we're gonna watch the movies with count basie every friday night and then that's that's that you know but i always dug the fact that like i got to go to the copacabana. You know so the eighties go by and you're in this phase where you're going to build. Rpm you're going to build his your company. You're gonna do what you wanna do your way. When did you know it was going to work. We i mean. I don't mean to be korean cinematic about but are you standing there one night in the wings and he's out there and you go. It's working no. I'll tell you when it was Bob guccione junior editor at spin magazine. And i was reading it. They were interviewing him in his own magazine and asked what he thought was the most influential thing about rock and roll people in rock and roll said to people. James brown and tony bennett as that's wild. James brown and tony bennett suspend magazine. You know it's like the pixies. And then i went onto. Rena goes like well. Why allie understand james brown. Why tony bennett. He said because he's always taken chances. What i said. This is what i was thinking about telling me. i'm picking. he's picking up this violent. Tony you know it's like the i i see tony. Everything's same thing once he's he does. He calls it moving furniture around. He doesn't know there's no such thing as complacency and now we're watching are the big idols kind of corporate. You know with the stones and doing that thing in their third cookie cutter and and about guccione's talking about this being like you know the guys invader so i. I called him up led to kind of the you know they would do these. These fashion spreads. And i said why don't we do something with the chili peppers and tony. We have fun with it so we did a show at the hard rock cafe in l. a. with the red hot chili peppers and tony. The chili peppers were punk at that time right before recruiting and i said been an observational musical logical way. They went there. It was kind of like wait a minute. Because your father snobbish jurist slob come back then. I'm like you know what. I was managing some other bands at that time in boston. And so i kind of got into this notion like there was an alternative rocks and they did these college. Radio shows like rfk stadiums with nine inch nails ended a says. Gee i wonder if like i pitched them you know about tony being on the bill if this would be novel enough for them and i pitched it down in washington. Dc rfk stadium. And there's tying rfk sixty thousand kids. It's pj harvey is going on between pj harvey and nine snails. Ner what happened. Well you're looking at it. Goes as it goes with. Frank do this and i said no. And that's why you're doing it and he goes okay. I get it and he goes out. Kills kills timing and we were all got to take chances you know. We don't take chances anymore. And he kills if it's good they're gonna dig. They're gonna dig it and they wouldn't let them off the stage just trio look. I consider myself a dragon slayer for. Tony calls me once a month. I swear to. God says you know what i just want to thank you once again that i never have to talk to another record executive in my entire life. I helped him unblocked the artistic channel so i consider myself a dragon slayer or is that is concerned and and and i think that that's my. That's what i'm proudest of as far as that's concerned so you go through this period. The eighties and the nineties then like out of because the concerts. I said there's some doing doing l. a. k. rock. I'm so i did like five of these things. Then he comes in and goes you know. And i'll do tony. You know i was watching mtv. I think i can do really well. Just walks out of my office. And i'm like okay. Well you know another one. tv. No but that's tony man. I got it tony. Spelled backwards is what why not. That's what i say anyway. So then it was kind of like well. How am i gonna do this. You know jon. Stewart had a new show didn't really have artists. I well put it on stored show. And i kinda sold that idea and doug herzog. Who knows a comedy central At the time and it was like That could be interesting. And this is around. Eighty eight now. They dug it so they put him on then then it was like it. He feel his cool here. Here's your father who like any artist with a career that lasts decades technological advance and change becomes another mountain for him to climb trees on television music channel. Do you love it now. Here's the thing it's the audience. His audiences were getting older and when we were in front of that young audience. It's up here. And then he became twenty years old. I sorta watched him. You know he just rises to the occasion from that on we doesn't like to do arenas and things he he feeds off of that. And here's the deal. So it was like they came and it was like you know. We got unplugged. It'd be interesting to do on hugged. So i was like your fantastic so seriously cut all the mtv people all the record people and they started going great. You know we got. This is going to be fantastic. Tony's going to sing within and without you abbado song and like runaway train. And and i said you know guys. I really appreciate this but this is this is a train wreck. Never going to happen and i walked out and then they said we'll come back. And what are you talking about. I said listen you guys are on. Tv this isn't a day of mtv. Said you guys got balls. That's that there's no boss. What's going to take balls is to do tony's music and have them sing tony's music and i said that's ball that's mtv. Whose idea was the duets album originally. I mean you know it's not it wasn't an original idea what i'm saying but fi thought that those are very complicated things to do the point of pain in the ass you had sinatra and then you had read charles i mean so fifteen records Pretty good idea. So i'm like you know. How do i go and reinvent tony ev. And then we went on with mtv to win album of the year with the grammy's got a lot of people upset. And i was like what's going on with that but when you look at it. You know allegations that. He heralded in the ipod generation. You can listen to tony and billie holiday and also listen to pearl jam and it didn't matter so kids started opening up to that. He's you know he. I give him a lot of credit for that. Your father has you in his corner obviously for many many years now. His own son is flesh and blood. He has a wife your stepmother who's obviously is Omnipresent in around all the time with him he's got to people who are taking good care of him and he's getting on in years. I mean my and my brother's been producing his records and your brothers. And i'm assuming a lot of it is you gotta take as much stress as because because because he's working full schedule now and he's eighty years old. He's going to be eighty seven. He's still a lot of people. Don't look at me and go like what are you doing. Cleveland leave be no and then i do. Oh yeah and i'm like is not me. I mean seriously. I i'm very you know. Conscientious of the guy doesn't like to take elevators he takes he doesn't like take escalators. Ill airports is up. The stairs is the first one. Keeping up with them is a challenge. He in the my. Thanks to daryl hall and danny bennett. I'm alec baldwin. Here's the thing is brought to you by iheart radio. Listen we all love ice cream. 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You get not only the shows you get other shows that are broadcast on our network and you also get library We've got a library full of documents and all kinds of other great stuff so sign up today. Go to aftermath dot media that's aftermath dot media so i got an email the other day and the subject was about the mayan calendar and i was curious since i haven't really discussed it since the doomsday predictions of twenty twelve. And so i opened the email and it explained to me. The listener was explained to me. The perhaps the mayans were wrong or that were wrong about them and we were wrong about their dates. Were wrong about the calculations of those dates. So the question was asked of me. What if the doom date was not december twenty first twenty twelve but december twenty first twenty twenty one and i thought well that's a scary thought because you know it really wasn't and i never really Broadcast at the end of the world was going to happen. On december twenty first twenty twelve. I said that if you read it correctly the mayan calendar was basically saying that on that date. The you'd be seeing something called the end of the cycle of creation meaning that there is a cycle of creation. and then there's the end of a cycle creation. Meaning that after that. There's no more that you start seeing diminishing of population we start seeing more pestilence. We start seeing more diseases and more events that would be considered catastrophic and. I don't know if you've noticed but be. Earth is becoming a very violent place not not that it hasn't been since time began. But lali some very important events are triggered him apocalyptic thinking in my mind and i remember attending a prepare to seminar with the david. John oates In utah and it was there that we you know reporting various things that could go wrong with the planet that would plague the planet. In the future and one was the possible. Explosion of the yellowstone caldera the yellowstone super volcano as always been an endless source of apocalypse vaccination. I mean if you seen the movie twenty twelve the yellowstone caldera explodes and it sends ash all over the east coast And so back. In twenty fourteen there was a paper that was published by a group of scientists they were scientists of geochemistry geophysics geo systems. And they were exploring what are yellowstone super eruption might actually look like among other things. They founded volcano was capable of burying states like wyoming montana idaho and colorado in three feet of harmful volcanic ash. And this would be a mix of splintered rock and glass and and that would blanket the mid west and that much ash could kill plants and animals crush roofs and short all sorts of electrical equipment. And the reason why yellowstone get so much attention is the remote possibility of a catastrophic super eruption a super eruptions anything that measures a magnitude eight or more on the volcano volcano explosively index. In which at least a thousand cubic kilometers two hundred and forty cubic miles of material gets ejected out of volcano to one hundred forty cubic miles of ash. That's enough to bury texas five feet deep. These super eruptions are thousands of times more powerful than even the biggest eruptions were used to even bigger than the mount saint. Helen's quake of nine thousand nine hundred. What is most interesting about the mount. Saint helen's quake or the mount saint helens eruption is it triggered the largest landslide ever recorded. And i remember when i was younger that that landslide event was mentioned. There was one other volcano that if it were to erupt it would trigger landside and that slippery slope could trigger a mega tsunami it would not only affect europe and wipe out. The eastern seaboard of the united states and that volcano was located in the canary islands. Was called coon brava now. This volcano has erupted. And it's now the subject of concern and worry for geologists that hope that their opinions will hold that opinion. There won't be any landslide danger. There will be no chance for omegas phenomenon. I'm sure many of us remember that. While concerns about yellowstone blowing were first and foremost in our minds. geological evidence suggested that in a future eruption the koumba via volcano on the island of lapalme could experience a catastrophic break on its western flank throwing between hundred fifty and five hundred cubic kilometers of rock into the sea. That's a lot n-. According to the theory. If the island were split into it would create a wall of water that would reach the coast of portugal and south western spain. Which both lie to the northeast. The waves could be up to twenty five meters high and would even cause damage to the south of england further north and then to the west they would reach the north american coast as well as destroyed the west african coast with waves of up to one hundred meters or more. That's according to research over the years. Many scientists have dismissed this idea. Well it's still believe bit. His recent eruption could be cause for concern now the palme has undergone a previous flank collapse event and there have been similar collapses elsewhere in the canary islands. And interesting you know. Interestingly none none of these appear to have generated widespread tsunami deposits around the atlantic basin. The key to the idea of such an event developing again as the events of the major rupture that happened in nineteen forty nine. During that event a false structure was observed to develop along the part of the cumbrae brave ridge and this has been interpreted as indicating movement of the flank of the volcano towards the west and thus the development of a potential flank collapse landslide on the southern part of the palm and now the eruption is still in progress right now. In the palm of the wall of incandescent lava is about six meters high on average and travels the speed about seven hundred meters per hour destroying everything from homes to electrical and telephone communications masses in. It's moving its way towards the sea. Meanwhile the lava flow from volcano is as i said. It's it's reaching the sea in a natural outlet. That's what it is but the situation is of concern to authorities because of the reaction of lava in contact with saltwater and what that means what that does i mean he could lead to explosions and the emission of toxic gases. That's according to the crisis team. The canary islands volcano emergency plan so in the lobby which has a temperature of around one thousand degrees centigrade reaches the sea. Which is a little over. Twenty degrees centigrade experts. Say that there will be an explosion of water and steam. It would create a dense white cloud and this plume is caused by the lava flow due to its extreme heat. But the molten rock law also trigger chemical reaction mainly of chlorine which can irritate the skin eyes and respiratory system according to the us geological service there are four main dangers linked to the ocean entry of lava the sudden collapse of new land and adjacent sea clips into the ocean. That's one to we have to worry about the explosions and triggered by the collapse waves of scalding hot water. Washing on shore and the steam plume and the worry that steam plume me is that that steam plume would rain hydrochloric acid and tiny volcanic glass particles down wind from the entry point. So there's an exclusion zone has been established in the running parallel to the coast extending from puerto. Now's in the south of the island of venus. Beach taza korte. In the north on land security forces are going to prevent access to the area. Scientists thought that the lava flow would reach the coast and around. Apm on monday night. Local time however the advance of the rivers of molten rock have slowed and so that forecast was not met the the bag up the magma flow right now. We'll completely change. The orthography of of the eruption site in the land will become unusable. it'll become uninhabitable. Six meter high lava flow will bury some more land and also probably disrupt electrical and telephone communications and when the magma reaches the sea not only do we have the danger of hydrochloric acid and glass particles shooting down from the sky. But we could have acid rain's as well and so these acid rain's good damaged crops. It's pretty terrifying. What's going on right now in the poem it is yet another indication that we're an apocalyptic cycle and in my opinion it triggers a lot of thoughts about the apocalypse. Five zero three two five zero eight sixty. That's five zero. Three two five zero eight sixty. I'm clyde lewis. You're listening to ground zero and we'll be back. I'm played lewis. And you just listened to a segment of ground zero in order to access the complete archive shows and podcasts. You must sign up on our secured server at aftermath dot media. It's only four ninety nine a month for the archive shows and podcasts. Or do you want access to the ground zero online library which includes videos audio clips e books documents. A social media platform plus the archives shows and podcasts. It's nine ninety nine a month again. That's aftermath dot media at aftermath dot media. Thanks for supporting ground zero.

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Episode 18  5 Tips To Help Baby Sleep

Fit As A Mama Bear Podcast

31:56 min | 1 year ago

Episode 18 5 Tips To Help Baby Sleep

"Welcome to the amount of air podcast. I'm shelby a certified strength coach. utrition coach Mama to an all around health nut. This show is about a little bit of everything healthy that unnatural related. So if you're striving maskell better feel better and enjoy occasional mom rants. This is the place for you. You're listening into episode eighteen day where I'm chatting to certified holistic baby and child sleep consultant. Hayley Blake Hey everyone so thanks for catching today's episode for all Lama's listening it'll be one you don't want to forget about whenever people chat to new MOMS one of the first questions we asked. How are they sleeping? I do it myself and I always WANNA a kick myself in. The face. Baby Sleeps Sucks. Not having any sleep. Sucks my girls are in our sleep. Still Hap- sucks and the solution of course is is do change it. Which is why brought Halian today to chat about the importance of a good night's sleep for babies and kids as well as how to get a good night's sleep with babies and kids heads so Haley? Why don't you tell us a little bit more about yourself and how you got into studying sleep? Yeah okay thanks for having me by the way shelby. Time Time I've been working with babies and families for over twenty years so I guess it started with nannying and being around babies time loved working with babies and then I became a dula kind of jumped into the birth world and then I also worked at the health unit so learn about breastfeeding vaccinations. Things like that. And then after a stint working at a job Second government job. That wasn't a good fit for me. I decided decided to China's a perinatal support practitioner and myself and another do last company Abilities Motherhood so we did prenatal classes worked with pregnant mom And my my favorite part was working with postpartum. Van Mama baby groups and funnily enough. It was sleep that everybody everybody wanted to talk about obstacle right. Everybody's tired and it's something that we you know. We talk about a little bit when people are pregnant but we focus a lot on the birth. You know people will be told you're going to be tired but they don't quite realize what's in the look and feel like it can be really overwhelming. So that was sort of my the impetus was always in the back of my head. I wanted to sleep work. That was the push so I did training. It was about a year law. Really intensive moving through International National Parenting and international maturing to be in parenting institute and then I launch sound sleep consulting here. Wow I love it. I completely forgot thought that you were a Dula. To be perfectly honest. I knew that way back when but I completely forgot awesome. MD's And I love hearing her stories. All it's lovely it's such A. It's such an amazing thing to be witness. You're lucky so as I mentioned my girls are still really a theon sleep so my four year old is pretty good but my two year old has never loved sleep. She's a child that just thinks she's missing out on life. She just don't she didn't literally just does not think it is a requirement to anything and if she does sleep she insists that you called her or snuggle her to sleep. Always fun cheese to Angie Angie. Literally as you're leaving says Mama Ra- back rollback so then you have you get her down and you kind of have to like Minjah move out of the room which ironically I'm not great attitude perfectly honest though but the thing is is she's too. I've been doing this for two years. There's so Haley. I think I'm willing to pick up some more tips today personally. been anyone else. So why don't we jump right into the importance of sleep. I've chatted added about this before. And during my healthy habits podcast when it comes to weight loss and is improving your health overall. But let's narrow it down to Babes so tell me why babies need slate guy. Well I know a lot of the same reasons. We need sleep so babies lead sleep when they're sleeping that's when they do all there learning that's when they solidify solidify that learning that they've been doing during the day it's when they grow nights when growth hormone is released. It's what keeps them healthy. So it's really important for babies immune systems Adams and the big one that as parents meal see when our child is not arrested they are AC- and whiny and clingy Eh. And then something that you definitely would would understand is that I also see babies. That aren't sleeping. Well generally don't eat that great either so it kind of is acting every aspect of their wellness in including parents right just a little now now. I know both my girls used to do this when they were learning to crawl is they. Would I want to say sleep crawl at bedtime. In the middle of the night they would wake themselves up and be trying to learn something physically. Basically there's not a thing absolutely actually more so than almost anything. Learning new skill is the most disruptive to sleep. It's like people people. Bill are compelled to to practice and they don't care if it's three or few pm they may need to get out so a good tip for that is really just tons hundred tons of practice during the day so no need to crawl lots of Tummy. Time you move everything of the way and just give them a lot of practice and practice in their credit lonzo babies that are running. Just pull to stand back down helping them to do that. Over and over creates atmosphere muscle brain memory. Sometimes he can master something during the day but at night. When you're half asleep you kind of forget how to do it? So that's a good time. I never thought about actually had them practice in the. Yeah right real world experience because I think my mom is still kind of stumbles out and you can hear her like Giradi. We just transitioned transition to a big girl bed but it does have the rail on it and you can hear her like hit the rails or waiting to try and find the spot. That's because she's he's now it's funny listening to our blindness three minutes so she got nailed it. Yeah but both of my girls Charles just literally tried to learn everything in their sleep. It's so disruptive it really is an. It's a positive right. We have to look at it like normal part of growing growing up. Be Exhausting so talk to me about bedtime routines why they're important. What maybe on ideal one because I think everything is a little bit interchangeable angel depending on your own situation like what the benefits of having a comment a routine is are so well and you and you said sort of a key word there so calming so the I kind of look at the bedtime routine is starting at dinner or kind of an end gear so from dinner until title bad we want things to? We want to focus on connecting with their children. See with your daughter. She's like more back rubs Sit with me. It's the idea idea like let's fill back up with you. Know things that are coming but also forming that connection because that that stint overnight away away from you is is a big is is longtime for children so going into that disconnection overnight. We really want to have a lot of connection time. So that's the first thing so whether that looks looks like just quiet play on the floor. Lots of cuddles getting out all the giggles. I really like think. Follow the goals. But it's also about following your a child's lead so there's often some children have like a big burst of energy in that time after dinner. I go with it you know. They make him giggle. And just have some like really. Good bonding question about that though. Because that's interesting because after dinner we normally do a dog walk or my husband will take them while I try and tiny up and catch up on things and now I'm wondering if maybe if I spent more time with my youngest during the after dinner if she wouldn't be as needy when it came to laying her down yeah probably would probably work better for you to switch which that so like get that. I'm in that dinner. I know she needs time with tattoos. girl yet see see how it goes right it. It may just be that that she's like okay just need a little time for Asleep and then in terms of routines they don't always look the same for each family family but generally my rules are do it consistently every single night so babies and children as young as two months a really get it putting together patterns so we can layer on those cues that they know what to expect in that at the end all that they're expected to go to sleep that consistency consistency is actually really knicks. Feel really safe and secure. They know what needs to happen. They know it's coming. A big one is our sleep is dictated by lighten Dr Right. That's reduce lead hormones based on another summer. Kills me in my house the later right Mason. Bright out we get outside in the semi look o'clock and go. Oh bit late. Yeah Aso after dinner. That's a good time to close blinds. Dim The lights insert queuing the body and then basically each step of your routine that might that might look taking a bath. I would say to back like ten minutes. oftentimes children get a little bit amped up the ten. Minute back is free and the into Jinro indepedence depending on your child at center. Look different whether you're rocking a reading a story or singing a song but just keep it a consistent and predictable global e also easy enough that you don't mind doing it every night and somebody else could easily replicate it as well. Yeah we definitely go the book route of my girls a little readers. We have our favorite books that they read but my youngest her patterns are just. She's perfect so that it's easy to be perfectly honest like like after you're done reading her books she has to like turn the light. Switch out if you do it. Bedtime has gone off rails and it is the end of the world same with like her stars I and her music. She has to physically turn it on herself. She like she's very very particular. It's Kinda fast. LUTELY WE'LL UNEX- bats not uncommon in two year-olds right. So they're they're pushing boundaries they're looking for some autonomy so Focusing match during the daytime or awake time is also helpful giving her lots of choices during the day and opportunities that she can be in charge you can even that replay taking him. Many break here to chat about today's sponsor way back when I was trying and struggling to get pregnant my holistic nutritionist. And I got chatting about all the ingredients in my body lotions and I was mildly alarmed. Hard to how many comeback to disrupt hormones. This alone is what made me start making all of my own products however now as busy mom I don't always have time to make my own stuff and some products. Yes I simply fail at Deodorant Shampoo being the biggest issues seriously. Those trial weeks. Were not fun for anyone. which is why I now rely on brands like primarily pure to help me out? Oh I may not be able to make everything that doesn't mean. I don't want a natural product and that includes eliminating the word fragrance in the ingredients list primarily pure products are made using simple natural ingredients and they work seriously their deliverance smells amazing. Everyone especially my husband are thankful plus their prices are practical a tube audio dern is only sixteen bucks and using Code Malabar ten. You can even save money on that in my one class. I spent twenty four dollars on Deodorant. I hated how messed up. Is that primarily pure products are safe all natural imperfect. Were Busy Mamas who just don't have the time or want to make their own and for listeners of the podcast primarily pure is giving ten percents off your entire first order if you use the Code Mama their ten. Yeah so doing so. Do not through play like having games where she can win. She's in charge. And your the PAL ambling parent backing really helped to let kind of balance the control a little bit okay and then talked me about sleep regression Russian so when we're thinking of that first year which is where MOMS struggle the most I feel like every other month is asleep progression. Does I like that. Yeah so the big big one is four months right so we could all at the four-month sleep progression. It's the only sick progression. Were sleep fundamentally changes so so it's a big one Basically newborn sleep in two phases in the ending. Wake based on on need really big usually tape based on hunger or they have a wet diaper. The four-month sleep progressions sleep fundamentally changes and they start sleeping like us so they have distinct sleep cycles with four phases so they start off in the late sleep into deep sleep apnea late sleep and then they have this little weight gain in between sleep cycles about forty five minutes to Our law an APP that waking the subconscious turns on three senses sight touches down and scans the environment and if anything is different different from when they fell asleep to now woken it alerts the body to fully weight and they need the same circumstances to fall asleep. I remember you telling me about this with my all all this. And the way you phrase it this is the best and I still remember it to this day because we used to put on these lights and music that would turn off in the middle of the night and she would would wake up and freak out and you explain. It's me as if I went to bed if I fell asleep in my bed and then I woke up on the front lawn. How would I feel be different? It's the same same thing you keep it utterly consistent. Yes so you know using using white noise I love it. I also recommend UNREIN's White noise can feel a bit jarring to the system but it has to stay on continuously. So there's a lot of products see that are meant for baby sleep at. They're actually really disrupted like this week. Cheap Times after forty five minutes so it's almost time sleep cycle which really doesn't make sense because whatever we you get when it's off yeah exactly exactly so you want to just keep it consistent through the night so whatever you're doing Just make sure that when they wake wake-up hasn't changed so in this is where sleep associations really stick so parents that were able to rock to sleep or feed to sleep with their baby down and get a nice six hours stretch all of listen waking up. Every hour is breaking the habit. Then because if you're feeding to sleep a rocking to sleep than how do you get out of that in win Yeah that's a really big summary on top. That's what we need. The sleep training really is right. It's about changing habits. So there's lots of different ways to go about it. I take a gentler route. I don't do riotinto being generally for baby in the crab and leave the room and they figure eventually figured out and go to sleep which I don't because it ripped your heart out and you really just sit outside the room crying yourself. Ah Not actually effective. Yeah all Mama's natural instincts ignore babies fries and an IED attacks actions. Not what I do so and you're already post-partum so like emotional hormone wise in emotion wise it is just it's too. That's just too much for me. It is I really full on a distance where the unnecessary so I should say. I don't actually start training until six months. I know some people do but I I do not. I just think you're so much going on fire to that at there are definitely gentle things you can do to encourage independently I do. He led three to four month. Plan with clients is is just that But full training. I don't do till six months though. Generally the way I work. Is I just trade down sleep associations associations so feeding sleep is at the very top. Its Strongest Sleep Association. Below that is movement to sleep willow that is touched and then you have boys and then you have your presence. So it's really about ways to sort of stepping down so we're not pulling the rug we await now. We were not expecting a baby. He's used to co sleeping or I'm being held to sleep burners to sleep punked in this ad figure it out We we help them as much as possible. Each step away so it diminishes a crying and we're supporting them all of it. I lab that to scale it down because that is you know. We're struggling with the SU there right now. To my whole thing with the Souder is yeah just ripping it out of her would be great but that's like her safety quote unquote and like it. It just makes you cry. Because she doesn't understand what's happening or why just took like the biggest thing to her away. Okay and so I think that sleep is. I think that sleep is kind of similar in the sense that you can't just go from aid is that there has to be some sort of weening in there somewhere just like you would kind of Wean off breast milk so much yeah. It's one of those mind blown scenarios so tell me more about what you do with those things so when a mom contacts you. What's the first step for them or Brio? Yes so we I we set up a fifteen minute consult for sort of just like get to know me call. I can understand what's going going on with the situation. But their goals are cehic. Good fits work together and then from there we book a full consultation which is approximately an hour and a half. Did she hours as long. We come up with the plan and I do. A baby led approach so I generally do it in little chunks. Let's work on this for the for X.. Amount of days as see how baby response to help parents are doing with it and then we go forward from there so each you know it's GonNa look different for each family depending on what situation the rain. A and the way that the parents knew child's personality and age an influence. I do daily support with those clients a Eh for six days a week and generally we do two phone calls a week so and and I work with families for a full month and we don't always need a full. Emma oftentimes defended nailed a lot of goals. Fryer and they just keep me in the back pocket But some families people tend to want to go a bit slower networking with me and they don't want to do with the three day out approach. So Yeah Yeah I do the the full moon and it's wonderful. It changes people's lives right. People go ahead when they hit rock bottom. There will usually wait 'til rock bottom to reach out and you know they're kind of just surviving. It does impact every aspect for mom invades the next day depending on sleep and I know for why my husband's really good about writing on little sleep. But but I am not I need my sleep especially 'cause I lift heavy. It just doesn't work when I do not sleep. And I find with two interchange one one solid through the night for me sleep a week and then three nights one of them's up the other two another one's out for no reason At all so yeah. You're playing will come all you honor Honestly so so sporadic and and the reasons when they're older are hilarious but at the same time. You're like what is happening right now. So what are the the biggest the two biggest reasons that moms come to you struggling like why are there babes not sleeping. Yeah I would say it's it's night's sleep so they either have been formed habits and they want them to change. Because you know my baby's waiting six times a night complains night's sleep is wing But they just can't get those nets downs announcer nonexistent or really short. It'd be now. Is My youngest again. Naps were not I think for her and even now we're lucky we get like a forty five and she's just been that way but uh-huh okay and then if you could give a couple of just top tips so bedtime routine would be one find a solid routine absolutely what else pieces of advice laden dirk so keeping keeping the bedroom dark and I find that most families and it's not nearly enough so I it's like ten is a pitch black eight hundred eight minimum so I could not be able to read a book in that room especially during during the day. So how long do you think you need to do that. For because at what point do they need to learn to go to sleep in the summer gas. Yes well if I think Around right so I thought re layers of black rope lines to the dark room. Okay if if if you have an older child afraid of the dark you can definitely use a nightly but you wanna use the night late that is red or amber. There's one that I there's a couple that I really liked the locus. Sleepy late is one of my favorites. You can run night mode and cheese. The color of late to link to that in the show no notes just so you know locate sleepy light but an also having Darker Nats helps to extend those tax. Because we don't on our circadian rhythm isn't pushing that's all we have is sleep pressure so it's who meal plaque homies. Static Sleep Dr. So basically the amount of wait time that's a rating fracture sure sleepiness in order to get a good now. That's the only thing so when a child's had sailing thirty minute na it really dissipated a lot of that sleek pressure they we haven't had a good now necessarily. Yeah they're going to wait at a out of the sleep cycle and I'm feeling pretty good. I'm just going to wake up especially flee if they can look around the room and be distracted you see a toys or why not keep it really nice and dark really helpful Nathan those nuts. That's how the idea of it. It's an but the late and we all know about this rightly here like turn off your cell phone and our bags and watch TV. Most of us don't really pay attention to it but it's true that white late especially the blue spectrum is really destructive to Melatonin. Melatonin is the hormone helps us all all sleepy Babies are much more susceptible to that. Bigger is bigger retinas. So the more late why. It's been a suppress melatonin. And we want to go out when they're falling asleep at bedtime and during the night any little bit of late entering there is is basically dropping melatonin until their body awake late in dark really big one white noise. I mentioned you wanted a lot as a shower and put it between baby and the loudest generally. That's the hallway yet Focus on daytime nutrition shelby If a baby if babies not on solids yet just focus on having those really good feeds right after four months. ABC nearly distracted. They're much more aware first round basically make sure they're full make you one. Is Them Waking Up with the hungry tummy and as for all ages. I think I think kids should go to bed full to I know. My girls both have Healthy fats to their bed time snack just because it gives them that fullness overnight. They're not waking up. What do Cheer Ravenous absolutely absolutely and I find a lot of what turned especially younger? Babies really focus on how much they're eating right before bed. But if you have to look at it as twelve twenty four hour period so yeah. During the day child's on solids I liked the high fat healthy foods like Avocados full fat dairy along along Gary but the big one Big Big one is a protein which is shading but focusing on foods that have tricked a fan and a big one so we need trip event there Tony which then make Melatonin from and we only get that from you. Don't sit in her body so so Poultry is a good one. That's not feathers Potter's good beer all about omen butter or Hazel nut butter. And that's when we actually have is bedtime snack early. I make kind of like a sticky. It's an almond butter pudding basically My Girls Love uh-huh and it's awesome because it just kind of loves them into a little bit of a night when you get that trip to fan in you want actually pair it especially in the evening with a carbohydrate so a banana is a really good choice than pro sleep food Generally Essay to stay away from the sugary group at the end of the day. They don't even just smearing some nut butter on a banana. Like some great you or nut butter on bread or you know on. My kids always loved OATMEAL. Well smoothies and I would include Almond milk banana an oatmeal and throw stuff in there too but oatmeal also from sleep boots. So so there's lots of different if your child's ear whatever was lots of different things you can do but focusing on that is really helpful and then yep go ahead. I was just going to one more tip. They're just probably the biggest one is focusing. Daytime sleep so children. That are now thing we we need to look at sleep in a twenty hour period so having the right amount of de sleep with the right way windows so that we don't have an overtired baby going into mate time Overturning elevated disol- an elevated Adrenalin does not fall asleep. Well wake string night early waking the facts now it's sort of this endless unless site ball so just getting eighty well rex's during the day you're going to have better sleep at night sleep. Weak link is backwards. Because you think that if they don't then we'll go to sleep earlier in the have a better night sleep been never works in your favor said thousand times experience on that and now works in your favorite. Why my my father in law always tried and never know? It doesn't now two more questions I had for you. The first is. Do you want to just run through some symptoms. uh-huh of tired kids. So what does the kid or a baby looked like during the day. That has not gotten enough sleep the night before. Yeah so opt tired hit while Frankie number one right. If you're not policy cranky winey is a good chance. Maybe they're tired A big one is like parents will comedian say like my children by Chavez Fleet sighted on the girl all the time and just never likes to Rask so they don't like sleep but also a symptom of a child that tired they have elevated Cortisol in general in their system constantly now children that are really common sleep. Yeah well I don't see them so no doubt that that is part of their personality but it becomes a little bit amplified. When they're over tired I would see the other thing is classic? Seek US right if your child is rubbing their eyes yawning rubbing their head back and forth early sleep Simon's just lazing over zoning out turning away consideration by by four year old is like queen of sometimes literally just staring into space and now we you the acronym ot for overtired because we don't want to say that she's tired or heaven forbid like she breaks out not too bad but you look at our new just know she is so overtired because she's just complete like she just zonked. She looks like Zombie. All of a sudden out of nowhere fully back definitely the first thing to noticed especially the baby. You can catch some beds zoning now start your routine then than ideally. They're going into their bed when there's yawning an eye rubbing your bullying little babies also get a red eyebrows. Once you hit the Fussy Cranky nanotubes harder will retire. Yeah you backed him window there. So if you're noticing that that's when you're getting your child down tension to how long they've been awake inserts noticing our Friday that he may leave now is when I should start my my routine. Okay and then lastly you just WanNa run us through how much sleep kids should be getting so if we look like. What is a good average of Gwen? Because I know my daughter's four now. She's not napping anymore. So what should her sleep schedule. Be You like in an ideal world generally for toddlers that are mapping with you looking in a twenty four hour period but eleven twelve hours. Ohio Sleet so seven. Seven seven or seventy six or in there okay and probably eleven like offend eleven Israeli average for kids or younger babies. There's a huge variance really. Yeah all they do is they seem to sleep constantly Generally you're looking between eleven on the really on the lower are and to sort of fourteen hours depending on the age now and that that's distributed in a certain way between nights indeed sleep. The most night's sleep is ten twelve hours is is what your average. Yeah each say that. My girls are early risers but we do go to bed by eight PM. Is Our latest. We start bedtime routine in about seven any normally takes a good hour to calm down and read books. Then get a million things all right. Well I think we'll have to wrap it up there otherwise I'm probably going to bombard bombard you with more questions for another hour as you solve my life problems though Haley thank you millions for jumping on today and sharing your expertise regarding. Everything's do things sleep. We really do appreciate the tips and I say that just with the Atma respects because seriously mom's sleep like the best possible gift you can give anyone so all do actually right rollie looking to connect with Haley. She's located in London Ontario but you can also find her online at her website Sound sleep consulting dossier and she's also facebook and instagram under the handle sound sleep consulting so I will link to those in the show. John Oates so that you can find her. But if you're on your own right now hit her up your Apollo and remember if you're interested in or need a bit of steps workouts and Amazingly easingly healthy recipes check out my website at www dot fit as a mama bear dot com on that note. Check back soon to catch the next episode of the PODCAST. And you took one lesson from today's podcast. I hope it's not correcting sleep patterns even though it can be tricky is always worth it. Both mamas amp bathes and toddlers in kids benefit for a good night's sleep chat soon.

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This Newly Discovered Species of Tree Hyrax Goes Bark in the Night

"We're all shopping for essentials online these days. And now you can get rewarded for with bank of america. Customized cash rewards credit card. You can choose to earn three percent cashback on online shopping. The essentials have never felt more rewarding visit bank of america dot com slash more rewarding to apply now copyright twenty twenty one bank of america corporation. This is scientific american sixty seconds science. I'm mattie bender walk in the woods after dark and you hear crickets chirping or frogs. Riveting joe never here unless you're traveling across the equator in the center of africa from liberia to uganda. This is the call of the tree. Hyrax a small furry mammal that looks like a cross between a groundhog and a ground squirrel minus the bushy tail. John oates a professor emeritus of anthropology at hunter. College says hyrax calls are like none other than most characteristic sound of the majority of tree. hyrax populations across of rain for a son of africa. Is that a loud. Repetitive has shrieking or screaming. Cry only here at night which inveterate certainly forest. If you've never had it for us is quite scary. Each species of tree hyrax has its own unique call. Due to their distinctive streets oats an international team of researchers discovered. A new species of the mammal in two thousand nine oats was on an expedition across nigeria in search of gala goes also known as bush. Babies here's a hyrax call like the ones oats and his colleagues heard in eastern nigeria. Just be warned. It sounds a lot like a human scream. But then when they got to western nigeria. They heard this at night instead. Says they knew instantly that they had a new species on their hands. Hearing the two cools in such close proximity in time when could immediately tell the difference they just had to prove it. Oats and colleagues analyzed the skulls of tree. Hyrax is from six museum collections. They found that. The hyrax is sampled from between the volta river in eastern ghana and the niger river in western nigeria had differently shaped snouts and inner nostrils from the species of higher axes to their east and west. Scientists looked at this fall just never happened to notice it. Went looking for differences may seem to be looking the similarities. Because everybody except that all these higher exists with the same next. They sent off samples of higher axes mostly collected from bushmeat markets to have their dna sequenced results from. This analysis confirmed their theory. The hyrax is living between those two rivers were genetically distinct. All that remained was to observe this new species in the wild. Oats says he and his team worked with local villagers to place camera traps strategically following up on something. Some villages told us they said those animals you're talking about. They live in in those rocks. Well tree hyrax is posted sleeping trees. So here's another intriguing. They captured footage of the mammals running around and named the new species after the area in which they were found inter fluvial viollis or between two rivers the discovery was published in the zoological journal of the linen society. There's an evolutionary reason why the new species lives where it does says the rivers on either side of its range. Provided a geographic barrier where the mammals could have evolved stirred. Oats says his collaborators are working on identifying more species unique to this region with the hope of making a stronger case for its conservation as a lot more to this england. Justice for little rabbits mama's ground talk like animal that makes strange noises in the middle of the knights area has one of the most intense human populations in africa as being a great deal of economic development old leading to forest habitats in destroyed as an alarming right. Some of us have been invoked de for for some time in trying to hold on to what remnants way can yet them declared as national parks wildlife reserves community conservation areas so that the vegetation and these special animals have a chance of surviving. Thanks for listening. For scientific american sixty seconds science i'm maddie.

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What a Fool Believes, Part 2

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What a Fool Believes, Part 2

"With male chimp you get more than a url. You get an all in one marketing platform to help drive sales with things. Like data driven recommendations and powerful automation tools get started today at male trump dot com slash smart marketing mail chimp built for growing businesses. This episode of hip parade is brought to you by showtime and the critically acclaimed comedy series work in progress. Work in progress follows our beloved protagonist abby as she navigates the fine line between breakdown and break through variety called it downright hysterical and critics love abbie mcmanis unique ability to use humor to process complex issues like gender sexuality and mental health earlier this month. Abby and co star celeste. Pay coche sat down with danny 'em lavery host of slates. Big mood little mood podcast. And later in the show. We'll be playing you a special clip from their conversation. Check out big mood little mood wherever you get your podcasts. And don't miss new episodes of work in progress every sunday. Only on showtime welcome back to hit parade a podcast of pop chart history from sleep magazine about the hits from coast to coast. I'm chris milan. Fee chart analysts pop critic and writer of slates wise. The song number one series on our last episode we explained the history and parameters of yacht rock's a term invented in the office to define smooth california based music from the late seventies and early eighties and as nineteen seventy-eight turned to seventy nine. The doobie brothers led by vocalist keyboardist. Michael mcdonald were about to score their biggest hit ever with their bounciest. Yadi assed song. What a fool believes was a song about romantic regret and the impossibility of rekindling a dormant romance in established a lyrical theme. The yacht rock cleaners would later identify as core to the genre. It was about a romantic fool but kenny. Loggins and michael mcdonald buried their room initiative lyrics in a jaunty package after loggins had his turn with it on his nineteen. Seventy eight nightwatch album mcdonald. Cut it with the dube's and became even joyti how the duties what a fool believes. Hit number one in april nineteen seventy nine that same month. There minute by minute. Lp topped the billboard album chart but on top of its bespoke lyrics about romantic imprudence full also established a yacht rock park atop the doobie bounce. This sprightly syncopated chord progression. Typically played on piano or synthesizer proved a remarkably sturdy. Pop song template the doobie bounce recurred on a string of hit records these included steal away a number six hit in july nineteen eighty four robbie pre album or he's so shy a remarkably bouncy hit for the pointer. Sisters in october nineteen eighty. A number ten are in be hit. The did even better on the hot one hundred reaching number three tasks. Can you walk ins. Himself would adopt those bubbly keyboards on more than one hit. He co wrote with michael mcdonald including his number eleven. Hit from one thousand nine hundred eighty. This is and his number fifteen hit from one thousand nine hundred eighty three heart attacks the doobie bounce even found its way into the most yadi hit ever by philly. Soul duo daryl hall. And john oates the nine thousand nine hundred eighty one number one smash kiss a quick sidebar. Here you may be asking. How did we get this far into a yacht rock episode without playing a song by hall and oates well. Are you sitting down hall and oates are mostly not yok rock. I know i know you may have been calling them that for the last decade and a half ever since the yacht rock moniker was invented. John oates himself has in at least one interview credited the popularity of yacht rock with helping to revive hall and oates reputation and career and of course a version of hall and oates appear in the original two thousand five yacht. Rock channel one. Oh one series in positively hilarious. Twist john oates. Not daryl hall is the mastermind of the duo with a cartoonish aggressive violent temper. New paul and i will not stand eilly by california. China sailors stabbed the american airwaves in the balls. Shit use it for the record. Jd nar and his friends included hall and oates in the yacht. Rock series as comic foils east coasters from quote the mean streets of philadelphia by the creators yardstick however their music sits adjacent to yacht rock but is not integral to essentially all notes as music is blue eyed soul and it ranges all over the map from the seventies philly sound of their one thousand nine hundred seventy seven chart topper rich girl to the r&b new wave hybrid of their nineteen eighty two smash manny. Their music generally contains no west coast personnel. Although hall notes did work with l. a. Producers like david foster occasionally on the yacht rock founders. Long running podcast beyond yacht rock wherein they ranked songs fidelity to the genre on a yacht ski scale more than a dozen hall and oates songs were ranked and only two were tagged yacht. Rock a david foster produced deep cut. Called time's up and the newbie bouncing kiss with yacht. Rock is an invented retroactive genre. I am covering it in this episode. As if it were defined thing that existed in the seventies and eighties which it wasn't but in the musical cosmology jd reservoir and friends formulated there are parameters and the music of daryl hall and john oates sensibly sits outside of them. I hope we've settled that anyway. This episode of hit parade is brought to you by bush's beans. Finally a glorious summer is upon us and that means flipflops sunglasses short shorts and good ole summertime fun. No summer meal is really complete without the classic taste of bush's baked beans there. The sweet slow cooked center of the barbeque universe with the sweet taste of bush's baked beans by their side. The savory flavors of burgers and brats can reach delicious new heights. Bush's baked beans are a secret family recipe of navy beans slow cooked with real bacon fine brown sugar and our signature blend of spices. They're sure to make your cookout or family. Get together meal beautiful. If you wanna learn more about bush's baked beans head to bush beans dot com slash parade. The makers of paper and paper packaging are continually working on ways to make recycling easier on designs and processes that create less waste and on renewing our forests to ensure an abundance of natural resources for generations to come every time you choose to recycle paper and paper packaging. You're playing an important role in this circle of caring your choices make less waste. Because products made from tree fibers like cereal boxes. Milk cartons and magazines can be recycled up to seven times. Your choices inspire the industry to continue to innovate in the mills. Where paper and packaging is made. We're new processes can return water even cleaner than it started and new technology can turn more types of covered. Waste back into recyclable materials. Your choices help. Plant more trees because the families watch over our forests are growing and planting and helping to protect wildlife and their habitats. Learn more about how your choices help. Power the circle of caring at paper for nature dot com as i mentioned at the top of the show. What a fool believes swept to the top song prizes. At the grammys in one thousand nine hundred eighty but that same year michael mcdonald played a part in the album. That would do even better at the next grammy awards and set a new bar for smooth. Go ride like the wind. Featuring backing vocals by michael mcdonald was the lead single from the self titled debut album by christopher cross. You might say cross was born career-wise into yacht rock. Unlike michael mcdonald or the members of toto. Who helped build or adapt their way into the genre. Christopher cross a san antonio texas guitarist and songwriter had little history as a session player before signing with warner brothers records in nineteen seventy eight producer. Michael amartya a california studio veteran. Who'd played with the likes of dan and kenny. Loggins convinced warner executives to let the easy listening crooner record his own material but use the cream of la's session players crosses eponymous lp dropped in closing weeks of one thousand nine hundred seventy with a tropical green background and a pink flamingo on the cover the christopher cross lp might as well have been titled yacht rock album literally dozens of west coast players. Were all over the tracks. The rising tide lifted crosses boat and he went on to command the charts in one thousand nine hundred eighty by spring ride like the wind settled in at number two on the hot one hundred four four weeks. The follow up single did even better. Sailing is perhaps the most atypical but essential yacht rock song. It doesn't bounce or certainly grew but it is to yacht rock. What the bg's how deep is your love was to disco. The genres prototypical ballot. Sailing is literally about a boat and about as crossings quote tranquility all caught up in the reverend unquote. It's a smooth song about smoothness big Critics called sailing somnolent and numbing but the public loved it. Sailing topped the hot one hundred in august one thousand nine hundred eighty and it made christopher cross the king of nine one thousand nine hundred eighty one grammy awards when the night was done thanks to sailing and his self titled album cross had swept the night's top four prizes record song and album of the year and best new artist. He was the last artist to pull off this grammy. Sweep until billy eyelash in twenty twenty the complaint about this brand of soft rock after the nineteen eighty and eighty one. Grammy awards was that the music industry had taken a hard right toward white bread schlock but apart from sailing most of the yacht rock that was now dominating the charts was a seamless blend of r&b and pop and at the time this blend was arguably more critical to black artists than white ones as the seventies drew to a close and disco was enjoying its last moments of avert chart-topping success. Black artists increasingly found themselves. Boxed out of top forty playlists as radio. Programmers scurried away from anything resembling disco. What that often meant bluntly was any song that seemed to black. This made yacht rock or yacht soul a haven for african american acts for example ray parker junior picked up the bouncy yacht style in one thousand nine hundred seventy nine for his band radios single. You can't change that a number nine pop number. Three aren in be can't change and jazz saxophonist. Grover washington junior teamed with veteran soul singer. Bill withers on the one thousand nine hundred. Eighty one yacht soul ballad. Just the two of us a number two pop number. Three aren be hit to do this. Crossover was vital because the sorts of hard funk records that were topping the r&b chart at the time were largely ignored on top forty radio weather by the likes of rick. Canes or gap these now highly regarded artists and songs were not pop hits whereas yacht soul helped launch the careers at both and b. and pop radio of both jazzy soul singing algebra got the last and emerging be vocal king luther vandross that's also benefiting from this sound was super producer quincy jones who my mentioned earlier as the producer of michael jackson's off the wall on the albums he produced jones employed many of the same musicians who played on records by steely dan or the doobie brothers in one thousand nine hundred eighty guitarist and singer george benson who's aforementioned brazen was an example of proto yacht soul went full yacht on the jones produced quincy rebooted benson's career around his army of session players including guitarist lee written our keyboardist greg filling gains and george duke and percussionist paulino dacosta even david foster and michael mcdonald made contributions to benson's album. Give me the night returned. Benson to the top five on the album chart and its title track became his biggest hit ever reaching number four on the hot one hundred and number one on the beach one year later. Quincy's the dude on one thousand. Nine hundred eighty one album. Under jones's own name was practically a whitman's sampler of yacht rock and soul featuring everyone from toto. Steve luther to trumpeter and frequent steely dan contributor. Chuck findley jones used the album to launch the career of vocalist james ingram. Who sang. Lead on the album's two biggest hits the ballot just once and the mid tempo super smooth one hundred ways dover. There could be a and love and marie that seem year. James ingram reappeared on singer. Patti austin's quincy jones produced nine thousand nine hundred eighty one album every home should have one ingram and austin duetted on the slow burning love song. Baby come to me. Which of course also featured michael mcdonald on backing vocals after a long chart climb and a featured appearance on the tv soap opera general hospital. Baby come to me. Topped the hot one hundred in early nineteen eighty three. This was the breadth of the yacht. Sound at its peak in the early eighties. It was info trading every corner of popular music including tv themes and movies. There were middle of the road. Pop hits like joey scarberry bouncy theme from tv's greatest american huron a number two hundred thousand nine hundred ninety one wore christopher crosses chart-topping theme from the movie. Arthur winner of nineteen eighty-one best original song oscar. A ditty about new york city. That sounds very much like la. Ask on the other hand. There were also hits in this period that leaned decidedly more. R&b like michael. Mcdonald's smoldering nineteen eighty-two torch song. I keep forget the track was mcdonald's solo debut after the nine thousand nine hundred eighty two dissolution of the doobie. Brothers i keep forgetting made the top ten on both the hot one hundred and the are in be chart number four on the former number seven on the ladder unsurprisingly on his solo debut mcdonald was backed up by a raft of professional players from the l. a. session access including greg filling gains and two members of toto steve luther and jeff porquera but by nineteen eighty two. Toto had something much bigger going on. After two underperforming albums they had poured themselves into a make or break fourth album. Little did they know. It was going to be yacht rock's next chart and romney sweeping blockbuster rowsell written by todos david page and named four steve. Poor caros then girlfriend actress. Rosanna arquette was the lead single from toto form. The la groups biggest selling album. Instrumentally at least rosanna was a session. Rock masterclass built around an intricate. Half time shuffle beat that jeff portocarrero adapted from r&b legend bernard purdie trading off low vocals. From steve luther and falsettoes from bobby kimball and closing with a full band jam. The song summed up everything smooth pop had produced in the last half decade. It was jazzy and rocking and bouncy and full of solos and lyrically regretful and sleep rope. Rosanna spent a month at number two in the summer of nineteen eighty two stuck behind number ones by the human league and survivor. It was a near miss but this was already a bigger hot one hundred performance than toto had ever experienced. The todo for album was platinum by late. Nineteen eighty two. Since you're listening to this show. I think it's safe to say you love listening to podcasts. Is right well. You'll find a ton of binge worthy podcasts including ours. On amazon music. Amazon music has more than ten million free. Podcast episodes to listen to but amazon. Music isn't just for listening to podcasts. They have thousands of music stations and top playlists to stream for free. If you're like me and want your music on demand and ad free you have to try. Amazon music unlimited as we near the end of the summer. I'm using amazon music to help. Put together my annual summer mix capturing all my favorite songs from the hot weather months from lord too little nasdaq's japanese breakfast to john mayer. If you've never tried amazon on unlimited. Now's a great time. For a limited time. New customers can try amazon. Music unlimited free for thirty days. No credit card required. Just go to amazon dot com slash parade. That's amazon dot com slash parade to try amazon music. Unlimited free for thirty days amazon dot com slash parade renews automatically cancel anytime terms apply. How low this is daniel. Lavery you might know me as the host of big mood little mood. And the former host of dear prudence instead of typical ad. 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Space is meditation made simple gutu heads based dot com slash parade. That's head space dot com slash parade for a free one month trial with access to head spaces full library of meditations for every situation. This is the best deal offered right now. Head to head space dot com slash parade today. Unfortunately no other song on todos album seemed at the time like a proper. Follow up to rosanna. The band and their label tried issuing a similarly jazzy pop number named make believe but it stalled at number thirty in the fall of eighty two. Of course there was this. Others saw a dreamy fantasia primarily written by bandmate david peach about a man who hasn't traveled much but thinks he knows the character of an entire continent a moody oddball. Track that the band almost left off the album thinking it didn't fit so they buried it at the very end of side to and nobody thought it should be a single with no better options. The band finally released it as the third forty five from toto. Four years later members of toto said in interviews if you told them in nineteen eighty two that this quote goofy song was the one they be most remembered for. Nate have said you nuts on down what more can be said about africa. The most enduring yacht rock song of all the eighty song most beloved by the millennial and z. Generations the song that would one day blanket. The internet in one rather literal sense. The song is a metaphor for yacht. Rock itself black culture reinterpreted by white musicians drummer. Jeff poor caro who arranged the songs conga based percussion described it as quote a white boy trying to write a song on africa but since he's never been there he can only tell what he's seen on the the song that everyone in toto underestimated reached number one on the hot one hundred in early february. Nine thousand nine hundred eighty three three weeks later with africa still in the top five. Toto took the podium at the grammy awards there earlier. Hit rosanna one. Record of the year and toto. Four took album of the year in his acceptance speech drummer. Jeff porquera made plane why this band composed entirely of session. Veterans had won the album of the year. This year is total. Got is really hard for us. there's a lot of people think most of all there's a lot of people we've worked with here. We all love you for everything we learned from you. We'd like to thank for had a point if every industry figure who'd worked with toto had voted for them. That alone might have been enough to give the band the win. It was the third time in four years after the doobie brothers in nineteen eighty and christopher cross in nineteen eighty one that a song by this access of l. a.'s session musicianship the scene. That was not yet known as yacht. Rock took home one or more of the top grammy awards. By the way among the album's that toto four defeated for album of the year. That night was the night fly. The solo debut album by steely dan. Singer donald steely. Dan would win album of the year eighteen years later in two thousand one for their comeback album two against nature completing a sweep of the top grammy's by most of the major yacht rock acts so what finally brought about an end to the chart dominance of yacht rock. Perhaps the answer lies in an album. That was already released the night that toto one. Their grammy's an lp. That came out in the closing weeks of nineteen eighty two and on which multiple members of the band had played. This album wouldn't be eligible for prizes until the nineteen eighty. Four grammys at which it would sweep and musically it was both fundamentally yacht rock and what king next michael jackson's thriller. The top selling and most hit packed. Studio album of all time was produced by quincy jones and packed with many of the same session musicians who had appeared on countless west coast studio albums. Since the mid seventy s from david foster to greg villain gains that also included several members of toto and in fact the song human nature was written by steve portocarrero and intended for his own band. Before quincy jones heard it and asked if michael jackson could record it. It is in essence a toto song with jackson seemingly laugh and human nature and eventual number seven. Hit on the hot one hundred was not even the extent of todos involvement on thriller. They also played backup. On the album's equally yadi lead single. The paul mccartney duet the girl is mine. A number two smash com and then even total. Also back the album's searing rock single it famously. The chart-topping beat it's blistering solo on. The bridge is played by guitar. God eddie van halen but on the versus the main guitar. Riff is actually played by. Toto's steve an in the history of eighties. pop music. you can divide the world into before thriller and after thrilling jackson's mega blockbuster effectively ended the post disco backlash and started a new age of crossover black pop contained within that forty two minute. Nine song album were tracks that nodded to the smooth music of the late seventies and early eighties and songs that blew. That template up thriller wasn't album that employed young rockers and essentially also killed yacht rock but not right away. For example. Lionel richie another crossover blackstar whose late nineteen eighty three album. Can't slow down would also go on to win. Album of the year recorded several songs involving the yacht rock access of players. On lionel's hit running with the night. Steve lucas third reprised. His beat it guitar performance. Only this time. Ritchie gave luther the showcase solar slot. Not long after thriller however centrist path that appeal to both white and black audiences began to take on different more kinetic forms whether it was the new wave funk of british acts like durant iran who were working with cutting edge producers like nile rodgers or hall and oates the yacht. Rock adjacent duo. Who moved deeper into claverie. Dance rock on nineteen eighty-four hits like adult education and their number one smash out of touch actual yacht. Lockers were also adapting their sound for this new centrist rock reality. Kenny loggins scored his only number one hit with the title song from the movie. Footloose hiding his smoothness. Under emir of twangy guitar pump and on their follow up to their grammy winning juggernaut toto attempted to transform themselves into new wave synth rockers. With little success the closest thing to pure yacht rock on the charts in nineteen eighty-four came from michael mcdonald and james ingram. Who took one last smooth music. Victory lap with the quincy jones produced yom. Ob there a number five or number nineteen pop baby but the smoothest music on the charts in one thousand nine hundred eighty four and eighty five generally came from england with no connection to the west coast. Usc this was the moment for uk sufficient apopka like shoddy and this sacks. Drenched music was its own breed of jazzy cocktail pop certainly as smooth as peak yacht rock but closer to the former new romantic and new wave movements by nine thousand nine hundred eighty six with toto scoring their last top twenty pop. Hit all be and michael mcdonald finally scoring a chart topper in duet with patti labelle on my own. That only vaguely resembled yacht. Sold the movement. That still didn't have a real life name. But which had quietly. Smoothly commanded the charts for the better. Part of a decade was over so to return to the question. Me asked at the top of the show. Why did yacht rock as a concept catch on was the appreciation of this music especially by younger generations ironic or sincere first starters as seemingly in cool as the music was. It never really went away. Only a decade after yacht rock's decline in the summer of nineteen ninety four west coast. Rapper warren g. A stepbrother of gangsta superstar. Dr dre took his hit with nate dogg regulate to number two on the hot one hundred. That was two positions higher than the song. Warren g very prominently sampled michael. Mcdonald's yacht so classic. I keep forgetting reached on the hot one hundred back in one thousand nine hundred eighty two. It was clear black night. A clear white meanwhile was on the streets trying to console some starts but the puck and get some fun rolling down the hill in the two thousands as the yacht. Rock video series swept the web. The rise of yacht rock as a musical movement was equal parts kitsch the stall java and eventually and what started out as a snarky mean invented by funny men who genuinely appreciated. The music soon gave a real boost to the performers. I thought it was hilarious. When i first saw it was it was almost uncanny but I it's fun. It's it's No one's more amazed than i think myself. And my contemporaries are that we're still working you know and we're still out there playing music. It's it's what we love to do in in the fact that we get to do it at the level that sometimes we still get to do. It is is really a remarkable to us. That's michael mcdonald in a two thousand seventeen interview marveling at his good fortune since the yacht rock concept caught on macdonald has been pretty busy. He toured with baas skaggs and donald fagin as the fake group. The dukes of september recreating hits like steely. Dan's head concern and macdonald has enjoyed renewed hipster cred in the last ten years. He has recorded guest. Vocal appearances for brooklyn indie rockers. Grizzly bear and also from brooklyn new pop and neo disco duo holy ghost of course neither of these indie pop tracks. Were trying to sound like yacht. Rock but in two thousand sixteen l. a. bassist and songwriter. Stephen lee brunner aka thunder cat went further. Writing a new throwback to the yacht. sound called. show you the way. And he even invited. Both michael mcdonald and kenny loggins sing. And then of course. There's the long afterlife of todos unkillable africa it has appeared on twenty-first-century tv shows from stranger things to family guy to the tonight show plus probably billion internet station. One of those memes a twitter requests from a die hard fourteen year. Old fan of the all-talk band weezer lead weezer to record a cover of africa in the summer of two thousand eighteen. That cover topped billboard's alternative rock chart for three weeks weezer 's biggest hit in a decade as for toto themselves the surviving members drummer. Jeff porquera died back in one thousand nine hundred ninety two. Were off the road by the spring of twenty twenty when the cova nineteen pandemic hit then just last summer at the request of their fans. Founding toto members steve luther and david page along with longtime percussionist lenny castro produced a socially distanced version of their most famous hit complete with video recorded from their homes. This new africa was offered by toto as a gesture of pure entertainment for folks under lockdown. This band of veteran musicians who had played in some of the world's fanciest studios were playing in their bedrooms and dense. Maybe this is the most apt legacy of yacht rock yes. The recordings were always high end and polished suitable for playing on an expensive vessel on the high seas. But the love. That's for the seat. As if i hope you enjoyed this episode of history. Our show was written edited and narrated by chris. Anthony that's me my producer for this episode. Was benjamin fresh and we also had help from rosemary. Belsen my extra special. Thanks to hollywood. Steve huey for his research support on this episode. June thomas is the senior managing producer. And gabriel roth the editorial director of sleep podcasts. Checkout their roster of shows at sleep dot com slash podcasts. Thanks for listening. And i look forward to leading the hit parade back your way until then keep on marching on the one. I'm chris me. Go above every this episode is brought to you by showtime and the critically acclaimed comedy series work in progress. 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Hit Parade: What a Fool Believes, Part 2

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Hit Parade: What a Fool Believes, Part 2

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And don't miss new episodes of work in progress every sunday. Only on showtime welcome back to hit parade a podcast of pop chart history from sleep magazine about the hits from coast to coast. I'm chris milan. Fee chart analysts pop critic and writer of slates wise. The song number one series on our last episode we explained the history and parameters of yacht rock's a term invented in the office to define smooth california based music from the late seventies and early eighties and as nineteen seventy-eight turned to seventy nine. The doobie brothers led by vocalist keyboardist. Michael mcdonald were about to score their biggest hit ever with their bounciest. Yadi assed song. What a fool believes was a song about romantic regret and the impossibility of rekindling a dormant romance in established a lyrical theme the yacht rock corners would later identify as core to the genre. It was about a romantic fool but kenny. Loggins and michael mcdonald buried their room initiative lyrics in a jaunty package after loggins had his turn with it on his nineteen. Seventy eight nightwatch album mcdonald. Cut it with the dube's and became even joyti how the duties what a fool believes. Hit number one in april nineteen seventy nine that same month. There minute by minute. Lp topped the billboard album chart but on top of its bespoke lyrics about romantic imprudence full also established a yacht rock park atop the doobie bounce. This sprightly syncopated chord progression. Typically played on piano or synthesizer proved a remarkably sturdy. Pop song template the doobie bounce recurred on a string of hit records these included steal away a number six hit in july nineteen eighty four robbie pre album or he's so shy a remarkably bouncy hit for the pointer. Sisters in october nineteen eighty. A number ten are in be hit. The did even better on the hot one hundred reaching number three tasks. Can you walk ins. Himself would adopt those bubbly keyboards on more than one hit. He co wrote with michael mcdonald including his number eleven. Hit from one thousand nine hundred eighty. This is and his number fifteen hit from one thousand nine hundred eighty three heart attacks the doobie bounce even found its way into the most yadi hit ever by philly. Soul duo daryl hall. And john oates the nine thousand nine hundred eighty one number one smash kiss a quick sidebar. Here you may be asking. How did we get this far into a yacht rock episode without playing a song by hall and oates well. Are you sitting down hall and oates are mostly not yok rock. I know i know you may have been calling them that for the last decade and a half ever since the yacht rock moniker was invented. John oates himself has in at least one interview credited the popularity of yacht rock with helping to revive hall and oates reputation and career and of course a version of hall and oates appear in the original two thousand five yacht. Rock channel one. Oh one series in positively hilarious. Twist john oates. Not daryl hall is the mastermind of the duo with a cartoonish aggressive violent temper. New paul and i will not stand eilly by california. China sailors stabbed the american airwaves in the balls. Shit use it for the record. Jd nar and his friends included hall and oates in the yacht. Rock series as comic foils east coasters from quote the mean streets of philadelphia by the creators yardstick however their music sits adjacent to yacht rock but is not integral to essentially all notes as music is blue eyed soul and it ranges all over the map from the seventies philly sound of their one thousand nine hundred seventy seven chart topper rich girl to the r&b new wave hybrid of their nineteen eighty two smash manny. Their music generally contains no west coast personnel. Although hall notes did work with l. a. Producers like david foster occasionally on the yacht rock founders. Long running podcast beyond yacht rock wherein they ranked songs fidelity to the genre on a yacht ski scale more than a dozen hall and oates songs were ranked and only two were tagged yacht. Rock a david foster produced deep cut. Called time's up and the newbie bouncing kiss with yacht. Rock is an invented retroactive genre. I am covering it in this episode. As if it were defined thing that existed in the seventies and eighties which it wasn't but in the musical cosmology jd reservoir and friends formulated there are parameters and the music of daryl hall and john oates sensibly sits outside of them. I hope we've settled that anyway. This episode of hit parade is brought to you by bush's beans. Finally a glorious summer is upon us and that means flipflops sunglasses short shorts and good ole summertime fun. No summer meal is really complete without the classic taste of bush's baked beans there. The sweet slow cooked center of the barbeque universe with the sweet taste of bush's baked beans by their side. The savory flavors of burgers and brats can reach delicious new heights. Bush's baked beans are a secret family recipe of navy beans slow cooked with real bacon fine brown sugar and our signature blend of spices. They're sure to make your cookout or family. Get together meal beautiful. 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Plant more trees because the families watch over our forests are growing and planting and helping to protect wildlife and their habitats. Learn more about how your choices help. Power the circle of caring at paper for nature dot com as i mentioned at the top of the show. What a fool believes swept to the top song prizes. At the grammys in one thousand nine hundred eighty but that same year michael mcdonald played a part in the album. That would do even better at the next grammy awards and set a new bar for smooth. Go ride like the wind. Featuring backing vocals by michael mcdonald was the lead single from the self titled debut album by christopher cross. You might say cross was born career-wise into yacht rock. Unlike michael mcdonald or the members of toto. Who helped build or adapt their way into the genre. Christopher cross a san antonio texas guitarist and songwriter had little history as a session player before signing with warner brothers records in nineteen seventy eight producer. Michael amartya a california studio veteran. Who'd played with the likes of dan and kenny. Loggins convinced warner executives to let the easy listening crooner record his own material but use the cream of la's session players crosses eponymous lp dropped in closing weeks of nineteen hundred seventy with a tropical green background and a pink flamingo on the cover the christopher cross lp might as well have been titled yacht rock album literally dozens of west coast players. Were all over the tracks. The rising tide lifted crosses boat and he went on to command the charts in one thousand nine hundred eighty by spring ride like the wind settled in at number two on the hot one hundred four four weeks the follow up single did even better and sailing is perhaps the most atypical but essential yacht rock song. It doesn't bounce or certainly grew but it is to yacht rock. What the bg's how deep is your love was to disco. The genres prototypical ballot. Sailing is literally about a boat and about as crossings quote tranquility all caught up in the reverend unquote. It's a smooth song about smoothness big Critics called sailing somnolent and numbing but the public loved it. Sailing topped the hot one hundred in august one thousand nine hundred eighty and it made christopher cross the king of nine one thousand nine hundred eighty one grammy awards when the night was done thanks to sailing and his self titled album cross had swept the night's top four prizes record song and album of the year and best new artist. He was the last artist to pull off this grammy. Sweep until billy eyelash in twenty twenty the complaint about this brand of soft rock after the nine thousand nine hundred eighty and eighty one grammy awards. Was that the music. Industry had taken a hard right toward white bread schlock but apart from sailing most of the yacht rock that was now dominating the charts was a seamless blend of r&b and pop and at the time this blend was arguably more critical to black artists than white ones as the seventies drew to a close and disco was enjoying its last moments of avert chart-topping success. Black artists increasingly found themselves. Boxed out of top forty playlists as radio. Programmers scurried away from anything resembling disco. What that often meant bluntly was any song that seemed to black. This made yacht rock or yacht soul a haven for african american acts for example ray parker junior picked up the bouncy yacht style in one thousand nine hundred seventy nine for his band radios single. You can't change that a number nine pop number. Three aren in be can't change and jazz saxophonist. Grover washington junior teamed with veteran soul singer. Bill withers on the one thousand nine hundred. Eighty one yacht soul ballad. Just the two of us a number two pop number. Three aren be hit to do this. Crossover was vital because the sorts of hard funk records that were topping the r&b chart at the time were largely ignored on top forty radio weather by the likes of rick. Canes or gap these now highly regarded artists and songs were not pop hits whereas yacht soul helped launch the careers at both and b. and pop radio of both jazzy soul singing algebra got the last and emerging be vocal king luther vandross that's also benefiting from this sound was super producer quincy jones who my mentioned earlier as the producer of michael jackson's off the wall on the albums he produced jones employed many of the same musicians who played on records by steely dan or the doobie brothers in one thousand nine hundred eighty guitarist and singer george benson who's aforementioned brazen was an example of proto yacht soul went full yacht on the jones produced quincy rebooted benson's career around his army of session players including guitarist lee written our keyboardist greg filling gains and george duke and percussionist paulino dacosta even david foster and michael mcdonald made contributions to benson's album. Give me the night returned. Benson to the top five on the album chart and its title track became his biggest hit ever reaching number four on the hot one hundred and number one on the beach one year later. Quincy's the dude on one thousand. Nine hundred eighty one album. Under jones's own name was practically a whitman's sampler of yacht rock and soul featuring everyone from toto. Steve luther to trumpeter and frequent steely dan contributor. Chuck findley jones used the album to launch the career of vocalist james ingram. Who sang. Lead on the album's two biggest hits the ballot just once and the mid tempo super smooth one hundred ways dover there could be a and old love and her that seem year. James ingram reappeared on singer. Patti austin's quincy jones produced nine thousand nine hundred eighty one album. Every home should have one ingram and austin duetted on the slow burning love song. Baby come to me. Which of course also featured michael mcdonald on backing vocals after a long chart climb and a featured appearance on the tv soap opera general hospital. Baby come to me. Topped the hot one hundred in early nineteen eighty three. This was the breadth of the yacht. Sound at its peak in the early eighties. It was info trading every corner of popular music including tv themes and movies. There were middle of the road. Pop hits like joey scarberry bouncy theme from tv's greatest american huron a number two hundred thousand nine hundred ninety one wore christopher crosses chart-topping theme from the movie. Arthur winner of nineteen eighty-one best original song oscar. A ditty about new york city. That sounds very much like. La house on the other hand there were also hits in this period that leaned decidedly more. R&b like michael. Mcdonald's smoldering nineteen eighty-two torch song. I keep forget the track was mcdonald's solo debut after the nine thousand nine hundred eighty two dissolution of the doobie. Brothers i keep forgetting made the top ten on both the hot one hundred and the are in be chart number four on the former number seven on the ladder unsurprisingly on his solo debut mcdonald was backed up by a raft of professional players from the l. a. session access including greg filling gains and two members of toto steve luther and jeff porquera but by nineteen eighty two. Toto had something much bigger going on. After two underperforming albums they had poured themselves into a make or break fourth album. Little did they know. It was going to be yacht rock's next chart and romney sweeping blockbuster rowsell written by todos david page and named four steve. Poor caros then girlfriend actress. Rosanna arquette was the lead single from toto form. The la groups biggest selling album. Instrumentally at least rosanna was a session. Rock masterclass built around an intricate. Half time shuffle beat that jeff portocarrero adapted from r&b. Legend bernard purdie trading off low vocals. From steve lucas and falsettoes from bobby kimball and closing with a full band jam. The song summed up everything smooth pop had produced in the last half decade. It was jazzy and rocking and bouncy and full of solos and lyrically regretful and sleep. Rosanna spent a month at number two in the summer of nineteen eighty two stuck behind number ones by the human league and survivor. It was a near miss but this was already a bigger hot one hundred performance than toto had ever experienced. The todo for album was platinum by late. Nineteen eighty two. Since you're listening to this show. I think it's safe to say you love listening to podcasts. Is right well. You'll find a ton of binge worthy podcasts including ours. On amazon music. Amazon music has more than ten million free. Podcast episodes to listen to but amazon. 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Space is meditation made simple gutu head space dot com slash parade. That's head space dot com slash parade for a free one month trial with access to head spaces full library of meditations for every situation. This is the best deal offered right now. Head to head space dot com slash parade today. Unfortunately no other song on todos album seemed at the time like a proper. Follow to rosanna. The band and their label tried issuing a similarly jazzy pop number named make believe but it stalled at number thirty in the fall of eighty two. Of course there was this other song. A dreamy fantasia primarily written by bandmate david peach about a man who hasn't traveled much but thinks he knows the character of an entire continent a moody oddball. Track that the band almost left off the album thinking it didn't fit so they buried it at the very end of side to and nobody thought it should be a single with no better options. The band finally released it as the third forty five from toto. Four years later members of toto said in interviews if you told them in nineteen eighty two that this quote goofy song was the one they be most remembered for. Nate have said you nuts on down what more can be said about africa. The most enduring yacht rock song of all the eighty song most beloved by the millennial and z. Generations the song that would one day blanket. The internet in one rather literal sense. The song is a metaphor for yacht. Rock itself black culture reinterpreted by white musicians drummer. Jeff poor caro who arranged the songs conga based percussion described it as quote a white boy trying to write a song on africa but since he's never been there he can only tell what he's seen on the the song that everyone in toto underestimated reached number one on the hot one hundred in early february. Nine thousand nine hundred eighty three three weeks later with africa still in the top five. Toto took the podium at the grammy awards there earlier. Hit rosanna one. Record of the year and toto. Four took album of the year in his acceptance speech drummer. Jeff porquera made plane why this band composed entirely of session. Veterans had won the album of the year. This year is total. Got is really hard for us. there's a lot of people think most of all there's a lot of people we've worked with here. We all love you for everything we learned from you. We'd like to thank corcoran. Had a point if every industry figure who'd worked with toto had voted for them. That alone might have been enough to give the band the win. It was the third time in four years after the doobie brothers in nineteen eighty and christopher cross in nineteen eighty one that a song by this access of l. a.'s session musicianship the scene. That was not yet known as yacht. Rock took home one or more of the top grammy awards. By the way among the album's that toto four defeated for album of the year. That night was the night fly. The solo debut album by steely dan. Singer donald steely. Dan would win album of the year eighteen years later in two thousand one for their comeback album two against nature completing a sweep of the top grammy's by most of the major yacht rock acts so what finally brought about an end to the chart dominance of yacht rock. Perhaps the answer lies in an album. That was already released the night that toto one. Their grammy's an lp. That came out in the closing weeks of nineteen eighty two and on which multiple members of the band had played. This album wouldn't be eligible for prizes until the nineteen eighty. Four grammys at which it would sweep and musically it was both fundamentally yacht rock and what king next michael jackson's thriller. The top selling and most hit packed. Studio album of all time was produced by quincy jones and packed with many of the same session musicians who had appeared on countless west coast studio albums. Since the mid seventy s from david foster to greg villain gains that also included several members of toto and in fact the song human nature was written by steve portocarrero and intended for his own band. Before quincy jones heard it and asked if michael jackson could record it. It is in essence a toto song with jackson seemingly life in human nature and eventual number seven. Hit on the hot one hundred was not even the extent of todos involvement on thriller. They also played backup. On the album's equally yadi lead single. The paul mccartney duet the girl is mine. A number two smash com and then even total also. Back the album's searing rock single. Beat it famously. The chart-topping beat it's blistering solo on. The bridge is played by guitar. God eddie van halen but on the versus the main guitar. Riff is actually played by. Toto's steve and in the history of eighties parties you can divide the world into before thriller and after thrilling jackson's mega blockbuster effectively ended the post disco backlash and started a new age of crossover black pop contained within that forty two minute. Nine song album were tracks that nodded to the smooth music of the late seventies and early eighties and songs that blew that template up thriller wasn't album that employed young rockers and essentially also killed yacht rock but not right away for example. Lionel richie another crossover blackstar whose late nineteen eighty. Three album. can't slow down would also go on to win. Album of the year recorded several songs involving the yacht rock access of players. On lionel's hit running with the night. Steve lucas third reprised. His beat it guitar performance. Only this time. Ritchie gave luther the showcase solar slot. Not long after thriller however centrist path that appeal to both white and black audiences began to take on different more kinetic forms whether it was the new wave funk of british acts like durant iran who were working with cutting edge producers like nile rodgers or hall and oates the yacht. Rock adjacent duo. Who moved deeper into claverie. Dance rock on nineteen eighty-four hits like adult education and their number one smash out of touch actual yacht. Lockers were also adapting their sound for this new centrist rock reality. Kenny loggins scored his only number one hit with the title song from the movie. Footloose hiding his smoothness. Under emir of twangy guitar pump and on their follow up to their grammy winning juggernaut toto attempted to transform themselves into new wave synth rockers. With little success the closest thing to pure yacht rock on the charts in nineteen eighty-four came from michael mcdonald and james ingram. Who took one last smooth music. Victory lap with the quincy jones produced yom. Ob there a number five or number nineteen pop baby but the smoothest music on the charts in one thousand nine hundred eighty four and eighty five generally came from england with no connection to the west coast. Usc this was the moment for uk sufficient apopka like shoddy and this sacks. Drenched music was its own breed of jazzy cocktail pop certainly as smooth as peak yacht rock but closer to the former new romantic and new wave movements by nine thousand nine hundred eighty six with toto scoring their last top twenty pop. Hit all be and michael mcdonald finally scoring a chart topper in duet with patti labelle on my own. That only vaguely resembled yacht. Sold the movement. That still didn't have a real life name. But which had quietly. Smoothly commanded the charts for the better. Part of a decade was over so to return to the question. Me asked at the top of the show. Why did yacht rock as a concept catch on was the appreciation of this music especially by younger generations ironic or sincere first starters as seemingly in cool as the music was. It never really went away. Only a decade after yacht rock's decline in the summer of nineteen ninety four west coast. Rapper warren g. A stepbrother of gangsta superstar. Dr dre took his hit with nate dogg regulate to number two on the hot one hundred. That was two positions higher than the song. Warren g very prominently sampled michael. Mcdonald's yacht so classic. I keep forgetting reached on the hot one hundred back in one thousand nine hundred eighty two. It was clear black night. A clear white. Meanwhile reggie was on the streets trying to console some starts but the puck and get some fun rolling pick in the two thousands as the yacht. Rock video series swept the web. The rise of yacht rock as a musical movement was equal parts kitsch the stall java and eventually and what started out as a snarky mean invented by funny men who genuinely appreciated. The music soon gave a real boost to the performers. I thought it was hilarious. When i first saw it was it was almost uncanny but I it's fun. It's it's No one's more amazed than i think myself. And my contemporaries are that we're still working you know and we're still out there playing music. It's it's what we love to do in in the fact that we get to do it at the level that sometimes we still get to do. It is is really a remarkable to us. That's michael mcdonald in a two thousand seventeen interview marveling at his good fortune since the yacht rock concept caught on macdonald has been pretty busy. He toured with baas skaggs and donald fagin as the fake group. The dukes of september recreating hits like steely. Dan's head concern and macdonald has enjoyed renewed hipster cred in the last ten years. He has recorded guest. Vocal appearances for brooklyn indie rockers. Grizzly bear and also from brooklyn new pop and neo disco duo holy ghost of course neither of these indie pop tracks. Were trying to sound like yacht rock but in two thousand sixteen. La bassist and songwriter. Stephen lee brunner aka thunder cat went further. Writing a new throwback to the yacht. sound called. show you the way. And he even invited. Both michael mcdonald and kenny loggins sing. And then of course. There's the long afterlife of todos unkillable africa it has appeared on twenty-first-century tv shows from stranger things to family guy to the tonight show plus probably billion internet solution. One of those memes a twitter requests from a die hard fourteen year. Old fan of the all-talk band weezer lead weezer to record a cover of africa in the summer of two thousand eighteen. That cover topped billboard's alternative rock chart for three weeks weezer 's biggest hit in a decade as for toto themselves the surviving members drummer. Jeff porquera died back in one thousand nine hundred ninety two. Were off the road by the spring of twenty twenty when the cova nineteen pandemic hit then just last summer at the request of their fans. Founding toto members steve luther and david page along with longtime percussionist lenny castro produced a socially distanced version of their most famous hit complete with video recorded from their homes. This new africa was offered by toto as a gesture of pure entertainment for folks under lockdown. This band of veteran musicians who had played in some of the world's fanciest studios were playing in their bedrooms and dense. Maybe this is the most apt legacy of yacht rock yes. The recordings were always high end and polished suitable for playing on an expensive vessel on the high seas. But the love. That's for the same. As if i hope you enjoyed this episode of history. Our show is written edited and narrated by chris anthony. That's me my producer for this episode. Was benjamin fresh and we also had help from rosemary. Belsen my extra special. Thanks to hollywood. Steve huey for his research support on this episode. June thomas is the senior managing producer. And gabriel roth the editorial director of sleep podcasts. Checkout their roster of shows at sleep dot com slash podcasts. Thanks for listening. And i look forward to leading the hit parade back your way until then keep on marching on the one. I'm chris me. Go above this. Every this episode is brought to you by showtime and the critically acclaimed comedy series work in progress. 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"So did that time nine mocking load. The michael berry show is on the air. It is an amazing to me. Mazing may not be the right word shocking to me that the democrats managed to win votes when most of their language is about hating the very people of this country. This theme is consistent when a crime wave across the country carried off carried out by violent people in the inner cities who vote democrat democrat run cities with a democrat mayor and a democrat police chief and and now democrat county judges and democrat courts and democrat district attorneys and policies. That when these guys are caught they're released they're not prosecuted and the answer is to go after you the honorable people who keep a pistol to protect yourself who keep a rifle to protect your family and your property. But that's the answer right. You're the enemy. Joe biden yesterday using the language of war. Listen to this comment. The second amendment from the day it was passed limited type of people could own again. What type of weapon you. Don't you couldn't buy cannon say the blood of the patriots you know and all the stuff about how we're going to have to move against the government while the tree of liberty is not wondering blend of patriots. What's happened is that there never been. If you wanna do. Think you need to have weapons to take on the government you need fifteen and maybe some nuclear weapons. The point is that has always been the ability to limit rationally limit. A type of weapon that can be on and who can own even the very liberal politifact says that's a flat out lie. Politifact points out that biden quote did not offer evidence to support his statement and historians of the period are dubious laws against private gain ownership even existed. There are documented. Instances of privateers or privately owned vessels that legally attacked enemy ships during wartime setting sale with cannons during the period in quote but it speaks to a theme a consistent theme in pattern and that is democrat policies designed to regulate the lives of law abiding citizens while the practices of their encourage those who create chaos and disorder and crime. Encourage them to do it. Spur them to do it in sight them to do it and when they do. Don't punish them. That's what we're dealing with. The people who were at the capitol on january sixth who've been jailed without charges being brought. That's a core tenant of anglo american jurisprudence is. You don't just throw somebody in jail without charging them without giving them an opportunity to begin making their case. That's a detention. That's a house arrest. That's not going to let myself get angry. But what we're witnessing is a violation of every constitutional principle. We hold here. this is just a culture war. This isn't just a disagreement. these are violations of our very bylaws by which we operate which we live in. When you can get away with doing this you can get away with anything later. In the show we will talk to stephen gostkowski of the reload dot com. He just wrote a piece that that reviewed the the sales data for the month of may and one point three million guns were purchased in this country in may alone one point. Three million eight point. Five million background checks for firearm purchases. Already this year out pacing last year's eight point one. What we're seeing is not only more guns being bought. But you're seeing that spread across a broader group of people my friends in houston own place. Call collectors firearms dot com. And i will go over and visit the owners mike clark who owned the shop for probably thirty five years and danny clark his nephew. Who's a little younger than me. And who will always be invited back to my poker parties. Because he was the biggest loser the last one even more than me. I lost the second. Most he lost the most so he's welcome to come back anytime. But my friends. Danny might clark collectors firearms as the big gun shop in houston. One of the biggest. I'm sure in the country. And i'll go over there and visit and what i've noticed over the last year especially but the last few years is i'll walk around and look at who is in the gun shop and increasingly it is women increasingly. It is people. That i didn't expect would be gun owners. You know my buddies who wear a civil war look in beard down to their fat belly bald on top so that we're a long beard to compensate light. Ramon you expect to see people looking like ramon at the gun store. At least i. Do you expect guys who are in boots and jeans in a big jacked up trump or duly. That's who you expect. That's who over the years. I would see at the gun store. That's my people. But i'm seeing women and i'm seeing young women like early twenties and i'm seeing older women and when you watch the questions they're asking they're asking the questions of a first time buyer. Hey if sometimes they disclose. I've never owned a gun before. But sometimes they say. What kind of gun should i buy for personal protection. Wealth for your home or your purse or your vehicle your or your person. And they'll say well. I hadn't thought about that okay. That's clearly a first time gun owner. You're seeing more and more of this so so imagine. The paradox of what's going on the people who are committing murders in the major urban communities are democrats. We know this. There's over a ninety percent likelihood that they're democrats how they vote. They also live in areas that vote democrat in big numbers. They have democratic mayors who point to appoint democrat police chiefs and they have democrat district attorneys and have democrat judges and they have a democrat officials. And this is. This is where the crime is occurring and these people want more gun restrictions but the gun restrictions don't affect the people that are abusing the guns to commit murders and so the paradox is biden's answer to the rage over the blood pouring through the streets of chicago and houston and detroit and atlanta and baltimore and la biden's answer is to come after the rural and suburban gun owner who's not bothering soul. This is the politics of envy and division and bad public policy sum ting wong. Well something must be right. You're listening to michael. Berry and me back on june forty five you sorry. Forty years ago that year blondy had two different songs. Hit number one on the chargers. The i was the tide is high. And the second was rapture nineteen eighty-one now many music historians consider rapture to have been the first rap song. Believe it or not for. Can you fast forward to the part. I'm not joking dead serious. Blondie is credited with the first rap in a song. Can you get to that on putin. Then then there too long and onto cnn snow ause aussies so this is an audience participation. But don't call. I want you to email me. It's very easy to email me. michael berry. Show dot com. These are the three questions. I want you to answer and i want you to number them and yes. I do read everyone. The three questions are number one. How old were you in. Nineteen eighty-one number. Two which of this list of songs would have been your favorite in nineteen eighty one and number three. Which would be your favorite today. Now that doesn't mean it's your favorite song of all songs. It doesn't even mean that you particularly liked that song but if forced to pick one of these songs as your favourite of nineteen eighty one of the list among those which do you like more than the others or if you hate them all which do you hate the least okay and don't waste my time in email rigo. They're all terrible michael. They're all terrible. Play along don't be a sour puss. Because if you're one of those people who does that you probably have simple chronic alto service and open source around your mouth and i will just assume when i get your email that that's what you look like and smell like all right. Here's your list of songs that made number one in nineteen eighty-one just like starting over. I john lennon. The tide is high by blondie celebration by cooling. The gang nine to five dollar pardon. I love a rainy night. By eddie rabbit keep on loving you. Reo speedwagon rapture by blondie. Kiss on my list. By daryl hall and john oates morning train nine to five by sheena. Easton bette davis is by. Kim kearns stars on forty five by stars on forty five. The one that you love by air supply jesse's girl by rick springfield. The first concert ramon ever went to endless love by diana ross and lionel ritchie arthur's theme. Best that you can do that. Christopher cross private is by daryl hall and john oates and physical by olivia newton. John that fine. Little australian lasts now. I want you to do so. Many male through the website michael berry show dot com. It'll say send. Mike lima answer number answers number one. How old were you in. Nineteen eighty-one number. Two of that list at that time. Which would you have picked as liking the most or the least if you prefer and number three as you've gotten older here we are forty years later. Which of these would you pick as being better than the rest or at least not as bad as the rest. You need to point out to me as some people do you. Don't like any of them. That's your call. I saw problem. Is i take photos of things. When i read it so that i can discuss it with you later and i saw something that i took a photo of and i can't find where i put the source of it and that aggravates me so just bear with me. It says violent language. Violent language in this list may be explicitly or implicitly violent expressions and metaphors that are used casually and unintentionally. These examples can be easily replaced by saying something more direct. Here is the list of oppressive language killing it. Take a shot at. Take a stab at trigger. Warning rule of thumb picnic picnic is very impressive by the way. And go off the reservation attacking so killing. It is oppressive language possible. Alternatives are great job or awesome. If your body is up on stage and he's singing off for the first time to alive audience and his wife comes in because she's late to the performance because that's what women do because they never gauge. How long it's gonna take to get to get ready. And you're watching your buddy and you pretty proud of him. He's doing so much better than you thought he would do. He's own in this audience. That's suppressive because it's a slave reference and his wife comes up and she says how's he doing. I guess you could say he's doing a great job or i guess you could say awesome. He's just doing awesome. Or you can say he's killing it when you say he's killing it. She knows I'm so happy. Yeah explanation for why killing as oppressive if someone is doing well. We don't need to equate that to murder. Okay i'm just trying to keep it real as the kids say the next oppressive languages take a shot at or take a stab at the possible. Alternatives are give it a go or try and the explanation. Is these expressions needlessly used imagery of hurting someone or something so somebody says to you. Hey i need you to draft the document. That's going to be the sales presentation for the biggest deal we've ever had. Are you willing to give it a go. Are you willing to try or would you take a shot at it. could you take a stab. The next one is trigger warning. The alternatives are content note or drop in the word trigger has connections to guns for many people. We can give the same heads up using language less connected to violence. Oh okay and then. There is rule of thumb instead of rule of thumb. You should say general rule because this expression is a true story comes from an old british law allowing men beat their wives but with sticks no wider than the phone. So you can her a whack just can't use a baseball bat. Well i think that's a fascinating history. The interesting thing is kind of women who are offended by using the term rule of thumb or are are single women. You know why they're single because they drink more than men. They cuss more than men and they hang out with their other sour friends who all hate men and wonder why no men want them. They wonder why no guy wants to marry them because they're sour because they're negative because they're nasty. I don't mean nasty in a good way like miss jackson. I mean nasty like their foul. They've become men. They've lost their feminine edge. They don't know how to make a man feel like a man. They never learned to cook. Because that would be too feminine. Let me tell you something. Cook and his hot ladies. It's hot and you know what chicks dig due can cook too. That's why they end up with men. These these women these these sour women that are so offended by language and so eager to find ways to be offended. They never find a man because the kind of men who share their political views. Sit down with a when they those men either like other dudes are don't know that women exist a. I would really like to fly out tomorrow. Lago have dinner with president trump and then interview him. So if you know somebody who can make that happen. I would really appreciate that. That'd be cool. I would consider you having contributed to the show. Because i think people would enjoy. That interview are really do. I've told the story before. But i think only on the morning show never on the evening show which reminds me by the way if you're listening to us right now and this is the only time of day you hear us on the radio that means at the station where you hear us doesn't listen doesn't carry us in the morning. We're not mad. They may have a local show. They may have a great show in the morning. They've got their reasons. We understand we're just grateful to be on the radio right now. It's a great opportunity. It's a wonderful opportunity to privilege. We try to take that very very seriously but if you like our show and you only get a few hours a day. We do another three hours every morning. Not the same show. We talk about different things. i mean. sometimes there's an overlap biden's comments to to gun owners. We'll talk about that twice but most of the show is is different. Some of our morning show We'll cover city of houston issues or texas issues a little more local but we also do a lot of national stuff. So if you don't get our local show in the morning on the station where you listen and you have some extra time after this show you can always go back on our podcast. It's free wherever you listen to podcasts. Were now one of the top usually every week. One of the top ten podcasts on iheart In the whole country of all the shows out there that includes radio and and Podcast all that. So thanks to those of you who've been listening and sharing but what was just about to say that i said something about this on the morning show no it. Wasn't you getting a bonus. I can't remember well anyway. The biden administration is holding illegal alien youths in squalid conditions with rotten food and cramped quarters. Oh oh i wonder if. Aoc and the rest of her little squad will rush down to the border and put her hand on the fence and look wistfully like she's on the cover of a nineteen eighties album. Oh my goodness. I'm so sad for the children. I'm wearing all white to look pristine lawsuit filed this week in the us district court for the central district of california accused the biden administration of housing illegal alien youth in crowded and unsafe conditions over fourteen thousand unaccompanied. Minors are now in the care of the department of health and human services now fourteen thousand unaccompanied minors. They're not going to send them back. So now you've got fourteen thousand individuals with no parent. Your solution is really limited. You can either now bring their parents. You can either place them with agencies here but that's a lot of kids to dump on the system and for every household willing to take one of these children that's a household that does not adopt an inner city child an inner city child that is already struggling to find a home through no fault of his or her own because the mother is crack addled. Because the dad's not around because the mother feels like she can't support them. We already have a lack of folks ready to adopt children and now we're dumping thousand unaccompanied minors but it's worse than that because you're thinking sweet little four year olds and there are there are some but to have braved the journey. Most of them are twelve eighteen. They're still call miners. Many of these are ms thirteen gangs. These are some of the most vicious criminals in the world. These these guys are murderers. These guys are bad guys and they are fearless. I've read a lot and talked to a lot of people who've been involved in in dealing with these children soldiers in africa and different groups that go through villages in this tribal warfare. You've probably seen movies about this. Or maybe documentaries and they go through these villages and they burned the village down is all fast huts. They burn the village down and they kill the men they rape and then kill the women and they take the boys and they make boy-soldiers out of them. Well what ends up happening is when a young man. Eight ten years old watches his family in his village destroyed and he's picked up by a guy with a pistol to his head. In pretty short order he learns that his survival is is tied to being part of this gang and there is so much written to say that these young men end up being the most ferocious warriors that you'll ever see because they've lost everything they've seen real trauma they have nothing to lose and cruelty is rewarded. How many of these young men are coming from the streets of the most dangerous countries in the world honduras el salvador guatemala. These are murder capitals of the world. Who do you think's committed those murders. Not forty fifty sixty year olds the some of the same unaccompanied minors you see. You're being convinced these children some of them are and my heart goes out to. There's children all over the world that would like to come to this country. That aren't lucky enough to be located a country or two or three or four south of us. We don't take them in. We are allowing to come into our country some of the most violent gang members and calling them unaccompanied. Minors releasing them into our streets. How do you think this is going to end the michael. Mary jo stone and we're not even six four months into the biden presidency. Only five and we are already learning more about hunter biden. It's only gonna get worse. The temptations are too many. His character is too flawed. His appetites for money drugs and more are only going to get worse as he has more opportunity. More chris. rock said about bill clinton. Roger clinton caused great embarrassment to bill. Clinton billy carter caused great embarrassment to jimmy carter. In fact he famously took lobbying contract with a foreign country led by terrorist dictator. Because they were paying him well and they needed an in at the white house. I dare say we've never seen anything like owner biden joe biden. This doesn't get better. There are new developments of course but hundred biden's laptop that was left in wilmington. It's no nobody now denies that that is hundred biden's laptop. No one denies that the contents of the laptop our faults when tony bobby leaney was bobby. Linear blue-sky bob. But what was his name bobby. Whatever his name was when he told the story on national tv to tucker carlson he said look. I was biden. fan. I'm not a republican. I'm a navy veteran. i'm embarrassed. I was in snared in this and i'm scared for my life by coming forward. The nation just pretended it didn't happen but more and more details coming out and the problem is if brisman the ukrainian government owned oil company paid him passive amounts of money to serve on their board when he has no skills to serve their and they're being investigated by the attorney general so joe biden goes to ukraine demands that the president of the ukraine fire the attorney general who is investigating the company that's paying hunter biden. And how do we know. He did that because he told us. There's audio of him telling us he did it. He was bragging at a conference a couple years ago on how he went to ukraine told the president to fire the attorney general and that he would be leaving in the morning the president said. Well how do i know. And i've got two billion dollars to give you of american aid and the president of ukraine said. Well how do. I know that obama approves of this. He said call him so the next morning as he's waiting to get on the plane he finds out. Yeah the president fired the attorney general which means that the attorney general of ukraine was protecting the interest of the people of ukraine. Lost his job his career because the ukrainian oil company was paying hunter and hundred his dad to go there and fight get the attorney general fired which means whatever barisno spent on hundred which was millions was money well spent. They don't have to go to prison now and you wonder why people hate america. In some countries we interfered and got their do-gooder attorney general. There eliot ness who's trying to take down capone and instead eliot ness gets fired. Wow wow this would be like when rudy giuliani was prosecuting. The mafia in new york and the mafia getting giuliani whacked. That's what biden went and did any told us about it. He bragged about it since then on his lap by the way they impeached trump over a conversation. He had with the ukrainian president asking the ukrainian president. What the hell happened with. Hunter biden joe biden. That's what they impeached him for. Do you know why because the best defense is a good offense so by bringing that against trump they put all the heat on trump. Are you kidding me. Are you kidding me. And how did biden reward the ukrainians. Who paid his son so handsomely really went to meet with putin at the g seven apparently when they told him he asks. What's on my schedule today. And they said g seven and he said bingo thought gee seven was so two days after he comes back. He does harm to the ukrainians at the of vladimir putin. That's an impeachable offense but back to his darling son and look. I don't care that his son's a good for nothing. You know george bush's daughter jenna. They made a big deal that she was drunk or africa. I thought leave those kids alone. Leave amy carter alone. Leave the obama girls alone. Leave the kids alone when they're just being kids but with hunter biden. He's the bag man for people. Bribing his dad that affects our national security. Our national interest well. The latest case involves new developments related to hunter and hookers. Hundred has an appetite for things and so hunter apparently hired some high dollar hookers. Put it on the family credit card. Twenty thousand dollars appears in calls daddy and says hey could you maybe get the heavies at the secret service to call and get a refund on the security card. Dear old dad will sure why not. We imagine it went. I don't know something like this. Meanwhile the office of the secret service received a call from vice president joe biden. Apparently his son is in trouble. What's wrong is he hurt. No not quite. It sounds like hunters at a hotel in los angeles and he's high as a kite and use his father's credit card. Very expensive eastern european prostitutes is terrible. But what is joe on us to do that. Gave us a phone number of a call girl service. He wants us to get a refund after they charge his credit card. About twenty thousand dollars. Wow well do. We have their phone number. Yeah i gotta right here. what are you waiting for. Call them kamala. Harris is office. Can i help you just gigolo and everywhere slow the third forever dance through. My tech look is playing big time in politics. We'll talk about how they're not only contributing to democrats but also republicans and republican thought leaders and influencers and conservative think tanks and after that we'll talk about new regulations. The biden administration wants to make on gun owners. Yes we are aware. Several of you've asked about biden's comments on infrastructure today. We'll get to those not today then tomorrow. Still be there. It's that time mocking load. Michael berry show is on the air sort of have a love hate relationship with technology. Don't we. I'm fifty years old. And i think about the role of technology in my life. I mean the coleco. Hand-held sports game was technology to me in nineteen. Seventy eight or eighty. I had the atari twenty six hundred and my dad came in one day and he said well. That was your big christmas present. What does it do. I had one floppy disk and it would ask you animal mineral vegetable and i showed him that he said i didn't really seem like it was worth it. But if that's what you wanted and he exited my room in that stuck with me for a long time and then technology in our lives when the phone went from being to the wall to well then we had the long cord. That made you cool. You could walk outside with that long court and then it went cordless and then it went cellular and then it started doing way more than that. Now technology affects every aspect of our lives and as technology has advanced and in the incursions into our lives our dependence on it has increased so too has the wealth created by the major companies that drive the industry big tech. We've come to call them any time. You talk big tech. It's never good so that brings us to our guest today. Catherine fung wrote a piece that said that was titled conservative. group warns republicans about big tex influence on the right john. Sweaty is our guest. He's the director of policy and government affairs for the american principles project. John why should we be worried about big tex influence on the right sure. Well thank you for having me on my. I appreciate it. You know over the last two years you know. We've seen big tech not only have they Grown in power and You know begun to censor conservative viewpoints aggressively but they even interfered in our twenty twenty election. And you know. I think it's arguable. That they even affected the outcome. And so you have these companies like facebook and google Twitter even to a to a smaller degree That are effectively the digital public square. This is where people do politics now because as you described this is where technology has gone. And you have these companies. Google manipulating search result to Lead people toward voting democrat. And you know facebook censoring ads from various Conservative groups to try to prevent you know messaging that would be harmful to democrat from getting out. We saw with the news stories You know the story of hunter biden's laptop being completely suppressed by the big tech platforms just weeks before an election. So i think you know where we're at with this. Is we have to recognize that. These big tech companies do pose an existential threat to our democracies and unfortunately There's a lot of groups out here in dc a lot of politicians. Even that have been funded by these big tech companies that have pledged kind of loyalty to them and folks aren't aware of it so i think what we're trying to do what we did with this letter and what we're trying to do in general is bring attention to the fact that some people are not necessarily being totally honest about their their motivation. Okay john lee as as as my teenage kids would say. Bring your receipts. Give me some examples. So there were some of these organizations. What name should we be looking out for. And who are they buying. Were they influencing in the letter. I sent congress. I cited a piece from the daily caller. And there's there's a bunch of groups on here that maybe you've heard of you know like our streets. The cato institute. The american enterprise institute Entire coke network And you know with famously. Actually heritage received money for a long time last year though and all credit to them for this they saw what was happening with the election and right before the election they came out and said you know what we're not gonna take google and facebook money anymore because you guys are interfering so you know it was a pretty dominant influence within the republican ecosystem. Conservative ecosystem out here and what we're trying to do is is push back a little bit on that And you know try to try to eat or get these organizations that are good organizationto to stop taking the money. So they're not influenced or to point out the bad organizations that frankly are just doing the the the you know the bidding these trillion dollar company. Senator ted cruz announced a few months ago that he would no longer be taking money from them. My immediate reaction was but you need money to to fend off democrat challengers to travel to do the things you need to do to be effective as a leader Molly ivins used to say The the very liberal but funny progressive writer in texas. She used to say that. The the rule of thumb in the texas legislature was. If you can't take their money screw their women and drink their booze and vote against him. The the next day you don't belong here. why not. Just take their money but don't let them influence you well. I think what happens there. Is that it just has a natural effect on you especially you know. There's a little bit of a difference between politicians than groups because groups get so much more Politicians are are capped by the election The campaign finance reform rule so someone like crews maybe would have gotten you know a a limited check from from google. Maybe some personal checks from some of their ceo's or something like that and you know he rejected that but but these groups especially smaller groups. I only have two three five million dollar budgets. You know if they're getting five hundred thousand dollar grant from these companies That's going to have a huge impact on what they say what they are going to run their talking points by companies and that sort of thing so you know. I think what what has to happen. Obviously you're right. These politicians do have to raise money to be competitive to win But they need to look for companies or individuals toward small businesses who are not interfering in our elections trying to rig it for democrats. And i think that's really you know an important thing here. It's hard to take politicians who continue to take that money and then continued to defend those companies thing possibly regulate them or anything like that. It's hard to take him seriously because of that relationship. And so if i were in their shoes especially if you want to continue to argue that we shouldn't do anything for the company no one's gonna believe you are trust you unless you're not taking the money point. John schweppes is our guest. Have you noticed a disturbing movement in policy positions. And i mean you you call names you say. These folks are writing checks to the r street institute to cato institute to americans for tax reform. Have you seen a particular position. That big tech has been pushing that that some of these groups have have seemed to away from You know or they seem to be doing their bidding or at least to have changed their opinions or at least to have gone silent on issues. Because sometimes you can buy the silence of your enemy instead of of their consent. And that's just as powerful. No i think the biggest issue that people talk about that that those groups have advocated against his section to thirty reform. And i'll just briefly go over. This section. to thirty of course is the bill that was passed in the nineties. That essentially gave these companies immunity from civil liability. You can't do big tech and these groups you know. Make the argument. That section two thirty is essential to the internet as we know it. And if you touch it in any way You know it'll be harmful and so you know we even our group as tried to to work with these groups Other tried to work with these groups like okay. Can't we find a compromise. Maybe we just target the largest companies try to create a system where there's a first amendment standard and the largest you know effectively in the digital public square and they're not willing to budge on that and so you get to the point where you realize. Well this isn't really a good faith dialogue you know they're not really coming at it because they're supporting conservative principles or whatever it's more coming at it because They are working directly for these companies. And so i think once that kind of becomes apparent. Then you just have to change who you're dialoguing with. Republicans in congress would be wise to just recognize like there's some groups heritage is a great example. They rejected the big money because of what they the elections heritage is a great group to talk to you about this issue. Because you know they're approaching it in a good way And i think that you know we're hoping that more groups Reject that money and that we can Get that influence out of out of our politics. Ball bam we'll get back in just a moment to our interview with john sweaty about the nefarious influence. Big tech on republicans and right leaning think tanks. But i i have to tell you. This was the number one song in the land forty years ago today for five straight weeks. Bette davis is was the number one song and for four straight weeks. Bette davis is was the number one song interrupted for one week this week forty years ago by this silly little song called stars on forty five by the band stars on forty five which was a dutch novelty pop. Act which would take songs and blend them together under the direction of the man who kind of brains behind the band. Golden earring for those of you who remember golden earrings. Jaap aggravant brilliant. It's kinda like kids. Bop you take these these folks that you don't have to pay any money you take disco beats that were still that were out of favor but still easy to dance to that tempo merge them together put a little techno in there. It's awful but it worked big tech and their influence on republicans and right thinking tank right leaning. Think tanks. I gotta tell you. I've been very impressed at the ability of big tech particularly amazon To influence politics go back to two thousand eight. When barack obama wins the nomination and then the presidency he had Some senior folks from amazon on his team. I think tom daschle had brought them in because daschle was really kinda running things and these were very sophisticated folks and and when you look back at what obama accomplished in two thousand eight using social media which was still very new people didn't see the evil underbelly and the potential for harm and then to his credit trump in two thousand sixteen using some updated technology in new means and methods. He also used facebook very effectively but not with their assistance. But what i've noticed with these companies amazon facebook. Google i mean you you look at jeff bezos buying the washington post. These guys. don't just want to run businesses. they wanna run the world and they understand. They've got to own politics to get their. They're far more sophisticated than any other industry. All in gas is running from politics today and embracing green which will kill them. But but those big tech foes. They've made gains haven't they. Oh absolutely i think part of it is that you know. Republicans believe in innovation they believe in the tech sector. They want america to china in these spaces. And so there's a natural fealty toward these types of companies because traditionally. That's where we've been by amazing. How tentacles are literally everywhere. And you know right now. We're seeing in congress in the house. A bipartisan effort To go ahead and do antitrust to to kind of go after the civically amazon specifically apple and some of these other companies that don't get mentioned as much and You know that's ultimately we'll see what happens but the powers that be. I'm not gonna let that happen. I mean ultimately like you know they're gonna be able to to have influence because they have such incredible influence on both parties. So i think that's kind of where we're at you know. Is this really democracy. I mean do we feel comfortable with these Trillion dollar companies led by people. Who don't even really consider themselves. You know they don't consider them american companies they consider the multinational Loyal to global interest. Is that really you know should they. Should they be kept under. He'll by the government in any way whatsoever or are they their own kind of super government. I think that those are the issues that were wrestling with and and really need to start discussing in the The months and years ahead well and as you note there in some ways like their own government the power that they wheeled you know the ability to shut down a communications network is so incredibly powerful and and if you look at how big facebook has become. Let's say even more so than twitter. Twitter is the inside circle of dc and its crowd and the hangers on. Facebook is how grandma in and her daughter and her granddaughter communicate the ability to say. No you can no longer post opinion saying masks or bad the ability to quote unquote factcheck. Which is the ability to censor. I mean we're talking about very powerful networks google's ability when you search for tenement square to take out the photo of the heroic chinese national who stands in front of the tank. That's the ability to control history. That's powerful. yeah yeah once once you get people not being able to say things out loud they sort of stop thinking them right and i think that's that's the goal here with some of the suppression and look. What the cove in one thousand nine hundred. I mean you brought up facebook back checking. They got it wrong repeatedly right like they they were saying things like You know oh if you talk about hydroxy cork win at all This is this is going to be fact checked false. You're going to be removed and banned from facebook. Well guess what that was true You know the league theory. That was a conspiracy theory and then guess what it turns out to be true. So i think what we're seeing here is. These companies have asserted dominance over our discourse. They believe that they should be able to determine what we're allowed to say or not and we have to decide as americans like. Is that really what we believe in like. Do we really believe that if you woke Content moderators and silicon valley should be able to determine. You know what. We're saying back and forth on facebook or should we You know make sure that we're having a first amendment standard that these guys have to follow and adhere to Much like you know what we have for common carriers Tv radio that sort of thing. So I think we should really think about it and you know we want to be careful. You don't want to regulate in a way that causes unintended consequences like as conservatives. We recognize that. But we also can't be so black and white as to say you know whenever these companies wanna do. They are private companies. So i guess we'll just let them have at it like that won't that doesn't work. Because ultimately that will result in our own extinction politically. Well isn't an interesting that so often are our discussions about big tech. The only way we can distribute our thoughts is through their channels whether that twitter or facebook. I've been removed from facebook more multiple times. And when i have three hundred fifty thousand people to whom i communicate daily and it might be a picture of me and my kids but it might be my thoughts on the subject or it might be. Hey can you help out this. 'cause that i'm involved with for veterans with ptsd their ability to shut that down as the ability to really stymie my influence in my effectiveness. And that's and they're controlling. Whether i can even have these channels which brings me to the next question. John we've got a situation where you look at parlor. That had their moment and it seems to have pastor. There was an attempt when when trump was taken off of twitter which has reduced his effectiveness. There's no doubt about that when he was taken off. Twitter and parlor was going to step in amazon had the ability to say not on our servers which effectively then they went down. They had their moment and it passed. So now we've got almost a utility operating without being regulated like a utility. That seems to be an antitrust violation. Because there's no ability to compete with them right now. That's absolutely right and you have something like that. I mean that's insane like amazon web services coming in literally destroying a competitor destroying their business model and and making it where they can't you know they they can't survive so yes i think that's the problem and and that's why antitrust something we gotta look at because ultimately you know the problem here is concentrated power. There were ten different amazon web services. At least assume a couple of them would be willing to host parlor Would be looking for their business. That sort of thing but when you have them novelty or at least you know in all the gop alita where there's only one or two or three Very powerful companies. They have the ability to determine all sorts of things. And when we're talking. I just think that when we're talking about speech this is an exceptional situation. That goes beyond you know economics or price-setting all these things that we traditionally talk about when we're thinking about monopolies in any trust speeches too important and you know ultimately I think we're kind of outsourcing the of our liberties the private company. That's really bad and dangerous for democracy. I think you're right. John shwepyitha interesting subject. Not going away anytime soon. We look forward to having you back. The director of policy and government affairs for american principles. Project thank you sir. Thank you tom. That's great star. Spread the nerd sang. Scenario lenny bruce hurricane yourself just zip. Joe biden is declaring war on america's legal lawful. Good nature gun owners and in fact his warmongering language toward the very citizens that he's the press he's the president of the nation. They make great. This guy is using war language in suggesting that maybe we go out and get oh. I don't know nuclear. Just listen to this. The second amendment from the day it was passed limited type of people could own and whatever weapon you. Don't you couldn't buy cannon a the blood of the the patriots and all the stuff about how we're going to have to move against the government while the tree of liberty is not wondering a blow to patriots. What's happened is that there never been. If you wanna do. Think you need to have weapons to take on the government. You need a fifteen. So maybe some nuclear weapons. The point is that there's always been the ability to limit rationally limit type weapon that can be on and who own. That's the kind of language that leads to an article at the reload dot. Com entitled. Americans just bought more than one point. Three million guns was written by stephen gostkowski founder of the reload dot com. And he says. Americans continued to flood into gun shops. Nationwide in may of twenty twenty one. Stephen put into perspective for me. Stephen gostkowski is our guest. How how big a number is that by historical Measure well You know that's one of the best ever for for gun sales And you know kind of in a sharp contrast to to The small arms survey Which estimates guy small arms stockpiles of governments militaries and police forces around the world. They estimate that the entire police force in the united states has about one million Small arms in their stockpile Across the entire country so Americans essentially in may alone bought more guns than the entire countries. Police force has in their in their inventory. You know it's been a while since. I read this number of few months at least but one of the things i saw. You wonder when you see these massive numbers and this has been going on since obama's presidency who was arguably the greatest gun salesman of all time and biden may surpass that by. I guess these measures. But i always thought that this was guys like me and you just buy an an additional gun but we keep seeing the numbers. I don't know if you have them handy of first time gun buyers young gun buyers and women of my friends in houston owned collectors firearms and they talk about. I'll go over there to visit him. And i'll say it's nothing but women in here and they say michael that's what's happening now women are now. We just passed permit louis carey in in in texas. They say this is people that have never bought a gun. Before what do you make of that. Is that true from what we know. That's that is the case The national shooting sports foundation which is a trade group for you know dealers manufacturers. They did a survey of dealers last You know during the height of the pandemic buying search that found a forty percent of buyers at that point where first time gun owners And if you you know apply that to the full year that is there were more than eight point. Four million new gun owners last year and presumably. That's you know we don't. We don't have an updated survey. Since then but i would imagine that. That trend is kept up through twenty twenty one where we've actually seen even higher sales numbers for the first quarter of twenty twenty one. Then we didn't twenty twenty so Certainly there's a lot of new people coming in and not just You know the stereotypical Idea that a lot of people have have gun owners being you know white role older man in that and it's actually a lot more minorities a lot more women in a lot more people from more urban areas buying firearms note in the article quoting from leave of national shooting. Sports foundation quote over eight point. Five million background checks for the sale of a firearm have been completed this year. That figure outpaces twenty s totals at the same point which had topped eight point. One million that was under the fear of a democrat getting elected as opposed to a program president like trump and now with biden office in making these statements. Twenty twenty one is outpacing twenty twenty. It's just does this. Continue most likely it would probably will look to summer You know tends to be. A lower fails season for guns Guns are are seasonal in how they're sold the demand for them goes down in summer but He i think the industry expects that they'll continue to see elevated demand And you can kind of see this to be walking to your local gun store where you know they're not as well stocked as they were back in twenty nineteen two thousand eighteen and they don't have any ammo to sell even. Yeah that that's been an issue across the country. You note quoting leva again. Anyone looking for the root causes of why this continues can easily see the reasons these include the nomination of david chipman a paid gun control lobbyists and gun control zealot who admitted before the senate judiciary committee that he wants to ban the most popular selling rifle in america along with the administration's proposed rule to redefine unfinished firearm parts as completed firearms and the pending proposal to reclassify pistol fitted with a brace as item strictly controlled by the national firearms act. Can you take those one by one. Stephen and talk about how that's driving this this surge in in in purchasing. Yeah certainly i mean i think You know the purchasing surges is probably a number of factors including you know the other cast we saw last year from the pandemic and the writing but certainly politics plays a big role. And you have president biden. Come in and You know advocate for all sorts of new gun bans including ones on the popular fifteen rifle and then when he actually takes executive actions They tend to be ones that are going to have a very significant tax so one nominating david chapman who is Former atf agent. But also somebody who directly works for gun control group now. The giffords Law center and and has worked for other gun control groups for decades to this point so there he's literally nominated somebody who is Gun control activists to run the agency that regulates In the united states. And so you can see why people are concerned about that especially the industry And he's also trying to three the rulemaking process through executive action Redefine what constitutes a firearm To the point where the. Cf would have much broader authority to determine when piece of metal becomes an actual firearm. That needs to be serialized and you need to have a licensed to sell it And you need to go through a background check to buy it. That's that's one of the big things they want to The president wants to do and then the other big move. He's made his time before you get to that. I need to brag on our show sponsors for just a moment and we'll come right back to discuss. That comes tom and now from the office of the way. These is the new executive orders regarding gun controls number one issue a presidential memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system number two just unnecessary legal barriers particularly relating to the health insurance portability and accountability act. Obama proposed rulemaking to give law enforcement to build a full background check on the individual before returning a season ago from atf. Federally licensed girl dealer providing guidance on how to run a background check. Private sellers votto. 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Th- the last point that you made for people that don't know interviewing this as a purely political question and legal question as opposed to people for whom this is near and dear to their heart because they do it. Talk about a situation where that would affect somebody that particular when you talk about reclassifying part as an entire firearm. Talk about what that is. Yeah well so you know right now. actually had issues because there's a the statutory definition of what A firearm constitutes is different. From what the atf has been saying about the teams lower receiver. Which is a key component on on the gun and they they say that lower receiver is a firearm for regulatory purposes that has to have a serial number engraved in it and you have to have a license from the government to make them and sell them And anyone buying them has to go through a background check even for just that single part and that's usually how they regulate Guns they'll pick a specific part on the gun and say okay. This part is the regulated part and the rest of them can be sold. You know without all the extra regulation involved and so what they wanted to the problem. They've had is in court. They've talked to start the judges start to notice that the definitions don't match up And at the they've dropped the number of cases against people Based on this definition that the ats has has come up. So atf to broaden that definition like way out so that i mean you know even precursor parts like pure metal anything that could be converted into firearm with eight. Hours of of working machine shop is going to be. They have the power to regulate as a firearm and make You know people who sell those those unfinished part get a license and And so forth and then having the part if it's not serialized it'd be a crime right. If if you don't go through that process sure how big a problem is how widespread is folks get get snared up in this trap right well You know it's not entirely clear the. Atf claims that they've been recovering more of these sorts of guns made with these. They call them. Ghost guns right. People have heard that term on serialized guns They say they've been coming more than to the tune of about. You know a couple of thousand a year Now of course it doesn't rise anywhere near the level of the regular kind of guns that the atf. You know recovers crimes but The other aspect of this is that it effectively would make it much more difficult to make homemade firearms which is really a longtime american tradition. That goes back to even before the founding it's been illegal spur the entire history of the united states and the effectively. This would make it much more difficult to do. The third component there that you were talking about was pistols fitted with a brace that would be strictly controlled by the national firearms. Act for folks. That don't know what that means. What how does that affect us. That's an even bigger Proposal because that would likely affect millions of Legal gun owners in america Because these devices pistol braces right. They've been sold the tune of even the atf estimates as many as ten million are out there As many as seven million in congressional research service said there could be ten to forty million and effectively. What they wanna do is reclassify all these guns. That have these braces on them as so-called short barrel rifles which would need to be registered with the ats in order to be legal Because if you don't register them and pay two hundred dollar tax you that would be a felony. It'd be a federal felony twenty heads It'd be like having an unregistered machine. Guns the same the same law regulates machine guns in america. And so you know if that goes through the way that they've written it. The vast majority of people who own these braces would either have to register them destroy them dismantle them or you know. Potentially face felony prosecution by the federal government. And that is what. I tell folks you know when you add little ticky tack regulations folks each of them distinctly and and stand alone and they go. Well it's not that big deal. The point is if the officer who stops you for no good reason so that they can look through your car so that they can smell your breath. Look at your eyes and you say well. If you aren't doing anything wrong. This is giving the government a power that governments have a tendency to abuse. This is giving them one more hook one more trap one more snare to catch lawful gun owners and the guys walking through the streets of chicago fire in the place up. They don't they don't follow the law anyway. So it's not gonna hurt them. They don't care. This is gonna hurt good honest decent people and caused legal problems and not keep us any safer right the. Atf only gave two examples of crimes. Which braces have been used There was a mass shooting in ohio. And the one in boulder this year but Otherwise they don't give any statistics whatsoever for how often braced pistols are used in crimes or really any argument that their use made them any. You know change the outcome at all you know using any other. Kind of the site is the re load dot com. You can read everything we've been talking about and plenty more. This particular pieces entitled americans just bought more than one point three million guns in may of this year outpacing last year and gun sales continued. Thank you joe biden. Thank you stephen. Gostkowski the load dot com slash. Thank you and good night.

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I did say that right right like when you tell a little kid. Don't touch the cookie and you leave the room. What's the little kid can meet the cookie. Alright cafa are you planning on singing with john. Oates in the last hour the shy. We'd love to do that or some type of melody of mix of a few of my favorite songs. Whatever you're comfortable with a point. I'm not comfortable with it. I'm just saying. Are you planning on singing with john. I was thinking about like a little mix of a couple lines of some of my favorite songs. If that's something that you think audience can deal with that. Change the channel fast. Yes paulie based off fritzy's rationale for you. He being a child and he doing you tell them not to do something and he'll do it. He asked them not to tom. Brady and not to book patrick season. Okay nice all right. You can watch the show if you like on peacock that show streaming download the app. It's free. we say good morning to our radio affiliates around the country fox sports radio. Iheartradio that distributes. This award nominated show. Ohio state beat minnesota last night. Coastal carolina utah arizona. State all roll busy weekend in college. Football penn state wisconsin alabama. Miami indiana iowa louisiana and texas georgia clemson. Lsu ucla. and then you have notre dame and florida state. on sunday. ole miss and louisville on. Monday is here. Think back to last year at this time. When i told you the big ten was not going to play they were shutting it down. Pac twelve was gonna shut it down the sec. Said we're full speed ahead. We weren't sure about what was going to happen with the nfl. Were they going to be able to postpone games. They moved them to other days. We were really in a state of flux when it came to College football and even the nfl year later feels like we're pretty secure as a big crowd last night in minnesota. I'm sure college football weekend. We'll be festive. The nfl What's happening with vaccinations. Being able to go to games would've restrictions when you go. What are the requirements. But it's a big difference than a year ago because we weren't sure what kind of college football we're going to have and the same with the nfl but hopefully we are able to get through this college football season and certainly the nfl. The nfl is not planning on moving games. They're planning on if teams don't adhere to the rules there. You're going to forfeit same with college. That they want the the rule the edict out there that this is how we're going to go. This is the bottom line because college. Football in the nfl. They missed out on the bottom line last year making money one of the themes of the college. Football season is new quarterbacks for lead programs and last night we saw cj stroud a redshirt freshman debut for ohio state. He started off slow but then picked up some speed. Threw four touchdowns the buckeyes big win over minnesota. This weekend will see. Dj dongola leg. The clemson started taking over for trevor lawrence. Bryce young takes over for mac jones in alabama and it speaks to the quality of these programs that these three schools are still the favorites to win it. All and they have new quarterbacks they recruit great players coaching. well there's also a trend of one year wonders in the old days. The best quarterbacks played a couple of years at the same school. And then you got to know them. And then you realize that it wasn't just a fluke that you're gonna put in a great season. They're putting in great seasons plural. The young quarterback seem ready as ever. 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Well we're going to We're gonna reveal that coming up in a little bit. Yes thank you taught already eight. Seven seven three. Dp show email address dp. Dan patrick dot com twitter. Handle at dp show mclovin. The poll question today will be okay. Best second member of a duo. Garfunkel dave. From sam. And dave actually. I don't know which was bigger. Dave sonny bono. I i'm not really doing this. But sonny and cher yeah with sunny the garfunkel to share yes okay. Share was a star. I remember watching the Sunny and share show share was great. Still is but yeah i. I'm surprised so. Simon and garfunkel didn't sell more albums than ho notes. I think is sold eighty million albums banner listed as the number one selling duo of all time then simon breakoffs solo pretty early on. Yeah i don't know how early it was but he. I don't know what happened with that. The polls a comedy do garfunkel and oates that it's really funny to women are garfunkel anyway. That's not the poll for today though Okay i have a few college football and pro football polls start with which is more likely to happen. Alabama being in the title game or the tampa. Bay buccaneers getting back to the super bowl. I would say alabama getting in back in the title game. There's not a lot of competition in the nfc for the buccaneers. But it's just so hard to repeat and even though last time it happened. Brady was the quarterback for the patriots. It's things happen during the course of a season. This is four months five months. There's a lot plus. If if you're starting quarterback goes down. Your backup. quarterback is not the same. If you're starting quarterback goes down in alabama. But i would say alabama returning to the title game is it even worth two in alabama versus the field. Paul is alabama that good and that strong number one. No i don't think so you know. Ohio state is is good. Feels like they're going to be an offensive minded team more than defensive-minded clemson is going to be there again. Got a good quarterback okay. Same kind of question. If i gave you the top three candidates according to vegas for the heisman spent rather oklahoma bryce young alabama and dj you from clemson versus the field. Which would you pick. So you get the top three and odds which are clemson alabama and oklahoma or the field. I would probably take those three quarterback position high-profile going to win a lot of games going to put up. Big numbers is jt daniels. Going to be able to win. This is sam how we're going to be able to win this. Cj stroud a redshirt freshman at ohio state the einstein. I would probably take those three apple you hurt. Dj you call mitt from the quarterback and he starts with georgia so if he beats georgia. He's a heisman front runner but then clemson finishes with yukon wake forest and south carolina not very challenging games. No fence that last three. It's hard harder to win the heisman. We don't have any big games in november. I think well you're also. Who's are you gonna play. North carolina in the title game and it could be a showdown with him and sam how that would help a lot. Yeah right the voting's after the championship game right. Yeah think so. I think yes but you know. It seems like a lot of joe borough types. Come out of nowhere when you heisman voting like. Do you try to be careful not to overreact to absolutely. There's so many times when i've said to voters when when i'm doing the show. Hey don't overreact. To september because we want to give out leonard. Fournette was winning the heisman after september. Sam darnold andrew luck and i said just wait. I know that we want to rank you know. Who's the heisman front runner and we want to have the nfl mvp every single week. I get it. it's content but i. I do think that we get caught up in. Let me overreact to what. I just saw september nice but i want to see what you're doing in november and december. That's when you win the heisman. It feels like you can win it in september. But you're going to lose it when you get to november and december and the you know the other way that you're not going to be on the radar and then all of a sudden we're going to go that guy's not going away that guy's playing in big games playing really well and that's usually what the cases it's rare when you go wire-to-wire there's nobody else who's going to win this heisman. Trophy yum club. Yeah devante smith was not devante smith quite yet at this point last year. Well we didn't think that a wide receiver could win the heisman. Trophy and water got hurt and devante smith was the best. I remember coming in. And saying when i watched him play. There was nobody like him like he was that good there. He was just a difference maker. And normally that your quarterback you're running back. He was a he was different than anybody else in college. Football and therefore had no problem. You know voting him as the heisman. Trophy winner even though he was wide receiver. They didn't take him out of the game and he gave me showed up big in big games. That's what you want yemen club but to polly's point though about not having a game the end for dj you for a long time. Wasn't it just the best quarterback on the best team. I mean the if the quarterbacks codings the best team that can help that can win and until they go. Undefeated can be hard not to see him. Well that that happens you know you have to go back to gino toretta. When he wasn't the best player team and he won the heisman. it felt like that was the fallback. Hey who do we give it to. Well he's the quarterback for the best team in the country. I mean jason white it. Oklahoma shouldn't have won the heisman. I mean he was the quarterback on the best team or one of the best teams. That doesn't mean that you should be the heisman trophy winner but then if you're looking at the best players we have great defensive players they're just you know we're in a an offensive driven sport. Where all we care about. Are these big numbers. You really have to work to watch a great defensive player. And if you're a great defensive player like stanley at lsu you just don't go in his direction. I mean this is what happened with dion. Dion was so good. He took away half the field but was he up there for. Mvp you got a guy who took away one side of the field as a defensive back took your number one receiver. You wouldn't see him. I mean dion if if if you've got an interception or a kick return punt return that that's when you saw him make the highlights. You don't like rivas. Drill rivas is a hall of famer. But how many plays did you watch durell rivas. Because you're not going to drill. Rivas his side of the ball. And if you look back at the heisman just the past five years. There is no odds and davante. Smith smith last year for the heisman before the season zero. Joe borough kinda came out of nowhere. He was a transfer kyle. Lowry transfer baker mayfield transfer. Lamar jackson was well known. He had a couple of good years before his heisman season. But otherwise come from nowhere guys. Yeah and joe. Borough had a very pedestrian season before that. And then you know all of a sudden joe brady came in as the offensive coordinator and they had a ton of talent. That's as much talent as i've ever seen on football field at skill position. Lsu a couple of years ago absolutely but yeah the transfers here and the mark jackson. It was like yeah but he. You know he's playing at louisville. Who is he playing against. You're going to be able to throw like that in the nfl. There were questions. About lamar jackson and i remember. He had the highlight whereas jumping over a player might've been the syracuse game. And that was the one that was like. Oh my god. Did you see that. And i had no problem. Voting for lamar jackson for the heisman. Because i i would watch him play instead of just highlights and i thought he was awesome. I didn't go well. I don't know if he can make that throw on sunday. If if you're basing it off of what kind of pros he going to be in a lot of people did that. They would vote that way. That's not fair to what you're seeing in front of you. It's based on what you do in college. Not what we think. You're going to do in the pros yemen club and the day. He came in the studio after the heisman. All of us. Wow that guy is not big at all. Well we said that. About most of these is johnny manziel. Not a big guy who else came in scenario is not a thick guy. He was outta. James was a big dude. James good science trae young smallest guest. We've ever had an anti capacity. I think it could take him down. Low and i wouldn't have been frayed. Go to the line. Unlike ben simmons if he found me there all right. Let me take a break. Ucla has got a huge game against lsu. But it's also a big game for shoe will talk to bruce feldman the Great college football reporter. He'll join us. We'll kind of handicapped. What we saw last night. What we'll see over the weekend college football rodney harrison the Nbc football night. In america analyst in john oates part of the best selling do of all time whole notes. That's all coming up on this. Meet friday back after this in the dan. Patrick show it's meet friday and those triggers are getting used. We got four triggers out there. They've been fired up yesterday now today and the grill enhances everything. You cook. incredible woodfired flavor. That's what people say. Well what's the difference. You have the woodfired flavor in there the pellets that you put in and you know you don't have charcoal you don't have gas i keep the moisture in six in one versatility. That means you can grill smoke. Bake roast braise and barbecue all in one grill meaning. 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And i and i'm sure i've done this to you as well the audience because now when you hear somebody on tv sorta talk for a little while. But not santa thing. Jimmy jimmy johnson. We created this fictitious insider and seton said. Hey i'm going to be jimmy jimmy persson and that all that is is i can throw out a topic like hey. How do you bryce young. We'll do at alabama's the quarterback replacing mack jones Let's go to jimmy. Jim snore insider well. Dan obviously bright young big shoes to fill their with mack. Jones who you know obviously a qb one in new england you gotta get a qb. One in their qb one now up in new england. Who's cam. Newton has stepped aside now. Obviously they were replacing. Tom brady so bryce young though long line of quarterbacks here that he is the next in succession of and we'll have to see how he does under nick. Sabin all right thank you. That's jimmy jimmy johnson. Saying absolutely nothing. And if you're a former player you always have to say the national football league. You're not allowed to say. Nfl national football league that will lengthen it along gate your give you time to think. About what the hell you're gonna be saying here. Thank you jimmy. Jimin bruce feldman fox sports reporter college football writer for the athletic. Bruce will be at the rose bowl saturday night. It's lsu at ucla. That game will be on fox. Hey bruce glad have yawn. How surprised are you. That is favored in this game against lsu to me that thing. Dan that a lot of people have kind of Had their eyes open to. I think is this might be the year feels like the year that chip kelly is finally turned the corner with the bruins. You have a lot of guys who played three and four years. He has a big time running game To really physical running back. Zach chardonnay transferred from from michigan. He's a southern california kid look terrific albeit against a really bad hawaii team and then you take the fact that lsu is coming off of a rough five and five year and also lsu has to new new coordinators. Both guys offensive play. Caller defensive play caller. Their brand new have really no experience calling plays in a game. So i think on the that side of it. It's going to be interesting to see how lsu tries to deal with all the stuff that chip kelly in his offense gonna throw out him formation as well as have three really good tight ends. I think they're going to do a lot of stuff with aaron. And the challenge is how does lsu adjust to it chip came out with oregon and and it it was new and then he went to the nfl and it was new and then went to ucla and hasn't had the success. Maybe hasn't gotten the athletes there but is he still an offensive innovator the way he was when we were touting him at oregon and certainly that first year in the nfl. I think he is. I think you're gonna see some really unique stuff with what they do in the run game now i think they have the big people upfront when he took over. It was a complete overhaul from what jim moret had. And obviously there. It's been a lot of growing pains there. I think the biggest difference with this. Ucla program compared to what he had at oregon remember. He jumped in with mike belotti. At first he was he was the offense corner then he took over the program but they had they had recruited a lot of speed there I have a couple of guys who can really run caz allen can fly but he's a receiver but in terms of you. Don't see like a little. Michael james. The anthony thomas kind of factor in this offense I think that's different for them. They are going to to really try to get you off balance and get your head spin it and then bludgeoned you With physicality which is different really than what you saw. The oregon which was everything was so fast. I mean he's got his line about how you know back. When he was at oregon they had they went really fast and they had fancy uniforms and shiny helmets and now pretty much. Everybody else has those options to i. Think the thing that you're gonna see with him and he's actually been innovator. I think in a lot of ways in preparation mean. He's one of the reasons why people all throughout football notches in college football changed. They're they're basically weekly practice. Scheduled get athletes ready for game day. I think so. There's a lot of stuff that he probably deserves credit for that. You know. maybe it's lost as people just think about. Oh he made everybody go fast and he talks fast and all that stuff i think. There's a lot of rankles you're going to see now that he has a lot of pieces he can work within a lotta guys who they have a lot of buying experience and what. He's looking for the quarterback who has the most pressure this year's who That's a good question. I mean i think you know he joking talked about about bryce young a minute ago. I think there's a lot of pressure on him because the expectation is so high From me it when you're talking about alabama what's different. This year is sark was great with like. I did a story a couple a week ago for the athletic about the evolution of the alabama offense. And there's been so many different hands in it in so many different coaches have come and gone there and made their little adaptations. I think bill. O'brien people remember him. Obviously from when he was the head coach at penn state and surly what he did in the nfl but sark is a big shoes to replace because sark was as good coaching. The quarterbacks is anybody who's come through in tuscaloosa and i think what's unique there is. You're you're not just gotta replace sark. We got to replace mack. Jones used to replace five first round picks on that offense. And so jon met. She's a really good receiver. But the receiving room at ohio state had been. I'm sorry to receive Alabama edmund off the charts in the last couple of years really in the last decade. I still think there's talent but people are going to expect bryce young to go in there and just tear it up and he might is. He's really highly regarded kid out of southern california. But the bar is incredibly high there at alabama just because no matter who's been there it's kept getting better. It's going to be hard to better than what they were last year. Even as good. I think you're going to the lsu ucla game but if you could go to one other game this weekend which one would have been a demand. There's great choices I love the match up. In in penn state penn state going out wisconsin. I think indiana you is iowa's really fun game to me though you gotta go with the top five matchup and it's like what happens in charlotte with with clemson and georgia got so many five star guys on the field I think expectations for national title is big especially with with georgia. Bhavan done it. It's been a long long time since i wanna national title. They have all these five star. Guys agnes a lot of hype around. J. t. daniels and you know i wanna see it. I mean because it's not like they're schedule on either side is is loaded. This is the heavyweight match up out of the gate. this is also the only ranked team right now. That clemson is is set up to play in the regular season. So you don't stub your toe here or anything like that. But i i think what you have are two teams that are really really loaded with big athletic dudes in the front seven especially on the d. lines and i think i would expect a really low scoring physical game with them and to me. It's like how welcome georgia run the football. Because they're down three five star athletes in a tight end receiver and for this match up in. That's going to be hard to put on. Jt daniels ethic bruce feldman fox sports reporter he'll be covering lsu and ucla. That'll be eight thirty eastern saturday night at the rose bowl. How would you sum up the off season for college. Football chaotic Dan the to me. It was such a bombshell when it came out and it came out basically the the week of of big ten media days here that all of a sudden whoa taxes. And oh you're going to bolt from the big twelve to go to the sec. To me would so crazy about that in a subplot in this is there's been all that talk about College football playoff expansion and there was a working group with with basically four people. The ad of notre dame the mountain west commissioner as well as baubles from the big twelve and anna. Greg sankey from the sec. The fact that this was they were having these meetings in all this discussion in a while it was going on greg. Sankey was basically gutting. The big twelve in. Bob dole's b.'s. League is kind of really mind-blowing business stuff in in terms of that and how it really Rocked the big twelve and again. I talked to some eighties in the league that we were like. This is the most stable. We felt like we've been in a decade all of a sudden now. You're two brands. That really are the ones that the tv networks care about the other ones. They don't rate it's the two that are great sankey in the sec. are taking away. I mean not created a lot. Lotta dominoes that are still affecting right now. We think the the big twelve leftovers may Probably reach out to byu and houston and cincinnati and ucf and so that has a domino effect to me. That's a big part of it the. Nfl is certainly story with now. We've gotten used to players posing for pictures with cars. They just got and it's all legal. I mean that's another like whoa moment that. Where are we at in. Twenty twenty one. We've come a long way good to check in with you. Bruce should be fun this year. Certainly a whole lot different than a year ago. At this time we didn't know what was happening with the big ten or the pac twelve and now we have doubts about the future of the big twelve or at least the artist formerly known as but it should be fun. Thanks for joining us bruce. We appreciate it always a pleasure. Dan thanks for having me. Bruce feldman fox sports reporter college football writer for the you go back last year and it was just crazy and it felt like it was day by day and then when we got into the schedule it was week to week or they're going to be able to play. Where are they going to be able to play. They can't play. Are they gonna make that game up. And i got the information last year and my source said big. Ten's not gonna play. And i said okay. And he goes in if the big ten play. The pac twelve is not gonna play because pac twelve always follows the big ten. I go kay he said but get ready. You're going to have people are going to come after you. Because they're going to say that you're wrong you're going to have commissioners you're gonna have coaches. You're going to cover the sport. They're gonna say you're wrong. The big ten is not playing football this year and i came in that morning and there are times when i don't tell the danettes i just figured let me let me tell them and then we react in you know in in real time. That's that's what i'm looking for. Sometimes sometimes i have to let them know if we're going to reach out to guess but even when baker mayfield i was told was going to be the number one pick. I didn't tell the danettes. I got something that will shock you and i said i i'm gonna tell you has to do with the draft and then they can't stop trying to troubleshoot this guy. What about give us a hand. Who's gonna have to do is their trade. Who's going number one. I said just wait. And then i came in that morning. I said i got a bombshell. And i just said to make love and get ready for social media because you're gonna get inundated with stuff and people are going to say that i don't know what i'm talking about. And there were so-called college football insiders. Who said he doesn't cover this sport like what's he know doesn't mean i'm wrong. I'm not an insider but you get information and we break those those stories here. And i thought okay. I'm i'm gonna say this. And then it's there's going to be a fallout and there was immediately because there were denials that big ten was not and i said you know the pac twelve is not complete football this year. Either and a lot of articles were written and And then when. I came on a few weeks later whenever that was and he said you know they're gonna try to do this in the big ten and they're gonna try to play maybe five games in the pac twelve gonna try to do this as well because they don't want to be irrelevant. You don't want to waste a year. I mean it was crazy last year and here we are this year lot of a lot of promise here and hopefully safe vaccinated able to go to the games and big difference club. That tweet The day that the big ten. That was our biggest tweet like one of ever if not to be i mean how many times it got between the us. Tens of thousands of thousand. Yeah and i. You know there's certain times when you get information like i'm not an nfl insider but if somebody says hey you know. I'm hearing from this person that baker mayfield's go number one overall. I'm not here to take anybody's job. Or to think ian rapoport or shefty or glaser or college. Football is an insider it just certain times we get information and you know i give that to you. I serve the audience. I don't care. Insiders or outsiders whatever. My job is to serve this audience and when we have that information we give it to you. But it's not like i go. Hey let me have a heartache here. That's not what we do. Just give you. What i think is good reporting. At least that's what i hope. It always is not always right. You know but i. I like my track record club. That big was biggest tweet. I bet you can't remember off the top of your head the second-biggest tweet of the last eighteen months. I could save it. No you Scottie pippen yes. Scotty pippin us. Yeah yeah that was ice. Still have people coming up going man. What was what was scotty. Pippin drink and his tequila and did you. Did you know he was going to say that. I think scott he knew what he was going to be asked about and he wanted to get that out there. I was just amazed that mainstream media didn't pick up on him basically saying basically saying that phil jackson wanted a white player to succeed over a black player and putting scottie pippen in not giving him the opportunity to have a last second shot in in a playoff game in letting tony coach have that honor people were like. Oh scottie pippen's ripping kevin durant like go. Scotty can rip kevin durant if he wants to who cares. It's just an opinion. The real story is when you call your coach or racist or you say that michael is selfish. He went to play baseball. He selfish michael new. The cameras were watching in utah when he said get the ball. I'll throw the ball. To steve steve kerr and make sure you make the shot that he did it. Because the camera's running scotty had things that he wanted to get off his chest club. Do you remember in real time did. Did you know that scott comments to blow up midway through the interview. Because i wanted to have money said to todd. I don't know scotty realizes what he said about phil jackson. I wanna give him the chance to if he wants to put it in context or clarify that was. It's all that was. And then when i got to that moment where i said you know. Let's go back to when phil designed to play for tony and you took yourself out. And then he almost like oh. I've talked about that or we're going to go back to them. And then i had to let him know what he said about phil and how that could be received and then he said. I don't have any problem with. I said you're calling philo racists and he said i don't have any problem with them then i knew that was going to explode yep especially as a chicago person when he left his mouth. I remember saying to myself. Oh this is it. this is the grenade in chicago. This is a this is a grenade that people in chicago. Remember years and years from now. Yeah this is going to be when people talk about scotty pippin. It'll be up there. When you think of scotty with all the greatness that he displayed when he played but that comment about phil jackson and never go away. And you know phil. Jackson is not addressed it. We reached out to him. And he's represented by brent musburger brother todd and we thought okay. Let's see phil wants to respond. And i think wisely chose not to. I don't know if you could go back and change scotties mind. I don't even know what phil says other than no phil scott. That's nonsense but phil is not think commented on that we'll take a break play. The is up next year. We'll settle on her poll question back after this. Thanks for listening to the dan. Patrick show podcast be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine pacific on fox sports radio and you can find us on the iheartradio app at fsr or stream. It live on the peacock out. Hey this is. Jason mcintyre join me every weekday morning on my podcast straight. Fire with jason mcintyre. 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You remember some of the match ups last year at this time with college football. I remember i was excited because byu was playing navy and that was really the coming out coming out. Party for zach wilson. He threw three touchdowns. They won fifty five to three. But there weren't great matchups there. No other rank teams were playing houston baptist and north texas state. You're gone. I'm not sure about these matchups. I hope there's a good game in here and Byu played navy was at night and that was not a good game at all little different this weekend. Clemson georgia. i mean that's the hammer. You want that feels like it's a late in the season kinda game. You start with that. They might play later in the season in the playoffs. yes mclovin possible to see alabama. Go down this weekend. Lots blaming lot of people. Think miami's interesting and i think it's neutral site. What what's the point. Spread double check. Always look it up now. No okay. Alabama double digit favor. Can we play guests that points on game. And it's a neutral site alabama miami chick-fil-a kickoff game in atlanta okay. I'm i'm gonna go double digit favorites for alabama. You'd be right now keep going. I'm going to go fifteen point favorites. Nineteen and a half alabama's yes mcglone. Maybe i feel good about miami. Now maybe if it was in miami. Yeah even then. It's you know alabama's a new quarterback they lost nine guys the pros every year at some point. Doesn't this half to affect their team. They're putting nine guys in the first round every you know. They never like this before. They never lost this many pros. Well they didn't have skill position players taken. Your quarterback was normally not drafted by alabama. And you didn't talk about wide receivers. You might have talked about tight in you talk about. They're running back and there'd be their offensive line. This is where sabin all of a sudden. He changed his offensive philosophy. And he's he's gone. 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Miley Cyrus Maneater

"Good afternoon everyone and welcome to the currently on podcast. It is Saturday September the twelfth two. Thousand and twenty it is currently twelve o one PM central time and I'm coming to you from Abilene. Texas. Now I. Don't know what you're doing this Saturday but whatever it is, you need to stop doing it right now you need to stop what you are doing. If you are driving in a car pull over to the side of the road because you need to look something up on your phone right now, what you need to look up is Miley Cyrus man eater. Yes miley Cyrus has done a cover of the classic hit by Hall and Oates Man Eater and you need to it. You need to see it and you need to stop what you're doing and you need to go watch it right now it's going to have to look up the video on Youtube. Miley Cyrus man eater. She did the cover of this classic hit on the tonight show starring Jimmy Fallon you need to go find it. Now there are some things about the cover I do not like you'll. You'll when you're listening to it, you'll realize that something is missing at the beginning and that's the saxophone I mean come on saxophone and man eater by hall and Oates is absolutely iconic it's classic. It's amazing. It's what makes the song of my opinion, but my takes a different approach. It's Her voice I really love her voice on the cover I. Think she did a great job and typically I hate covers. Typically I hate when someone covers a different song I hate it. Sometimes to me, I feel it feels very karaoke. It's like wait I've already got the original. Why are you doing this? She changed it up enough I think it makes it interesting I wish you would release it as I think it needs to be released as a single miley Cyrus man eater by hall and OATES. If you never heard the original I, don't know how you haven't heard the original. But if you have it, you need to go look hall and oates from their Album H. Two O.. Eater you've got to hear the song. The album has the album is classic and iconic as well. The cover of the album is iconic. We could talk all day about H. T. H. Two O. by hall and OATES. A love that album I have that album in pretty much every format available vinyl CD I probably have the cassette bound somewhere I have it every. Every. And every format to classic call notes album. came out. I I received the album as a Christmas present. I don't remember what year it was It was a good friend of mine and every whenever it would be like a birthday or Christmas, we always exchange music I buy music for him. He would buy music for me. 'CAUSE WE'RE BIG MUSIC FANS and one year I went to his house. Gave a the Christmas present and it was H. Two O. by by hall and oates an absolutely amazing album and let me verify here because I don't I don't Wanna I don't WanNa Release A. I don't want to release a podcast episode that has wrong. Information I'm almost positive is h two o I could be wrong Is Hang on. GimMe a second here I'm getting I'm getting nervous here. All right. That's not going to pull that up here probably because it's such A. Hall and OATES. Give me a second here. Don't their hall and John Oates. One of one hundred percent verified that that's the name of the album. Yeah. H Two I was write released a nine, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, two, one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, two, I don't have the exact month that was released but I got the album for Christmas. In nineteen. December of nine, hundred, eighty, two when I received the album I may have been released much earlier and that but that's when I received the album remember back. Then if you didn't have money, you couldn't buy the albums but I received it. Amazing amazing album. The first track as man eater. And you've got man eater crime pays art of heartbreak one on one, a man eater and one where the two big the big hits from that album. You've got open all night family man Italian girls, guessing. Games. Delayed reaction at ten at tension and go solo. And eleven songs forty, six minutes nineteen eighty-two RCA records hall and Notes Man. Eater. So there's the original you need to go listen to the original. What I will do is I will place the original on the the currently on radar playlist currently on radar playlist, which is available on spotify and Apple Music the currently on radar playlists I will put the original I. Wish I could put Miley Cyrus cover. Of the song on there as well but it's not. So you'll need to look it up. So here's what you need to do. Look up impact. Let's do a search. Let's see how easy it is to find on a youtube right now let's go to YouTube. See how quick I can find it. May Look here. I've got. I've got a I'M GONNA I'm I've got the pulled up and I'm seeing how quick Oh. Hero. Yeah just put in Miley Cyrus Man Eater A miley Cyrus man eater it. It will. It's the first thing that pulls up It has already eight hundred and sixty five thousand views. I mean I think she does a great job. I think she made Miley Cyrus I. believe is crazy talented I. Think sometimes she she doesn't quite get the credit I. Think she deserves I think she's more talented than some people make out. Make to be the sometimes they kind of I think sometimes some people were kind of dismissive towards her which I think is unfair. Miley Cyrus her cover a man eater great her her new song. If you haven't heard her new song and we pull that up really quick. As, well, go back to the search bar here on apple music. Pull that up here miley Cyrus night sky. Yeah. The new song midnight sky. If you haven't heard that, you should definitely listen to that as well. But miley Cyrus kills it with her cover on man eater you need to listen to it. Here's some information that have about a keeping it real, Miley. Cyrus. Spoke about her choice to cover hall and oates hit met man eater. I think iconic. It would be a better way to describe it while appearing on the tonight show starring Jimmy Fallon. So man-eater I think is very important to be transparent Cyrus told host Jimmy Fallon on Thursday September tenth. So I'm So I'm freshly single. So anyone watching that's my future ex husband just knows I told you. All right. So Hannah Mine, Tanna, allom who split from her husband Cody Simpson and August after ten months together added, there's no skeletons in the closet I warned you I during her appearance so she doesn't really go much more. Oh the. Here's some interesting more information during her first appearance on the talk show Sarah's performed her version of the nineteen, eighty, two song and a red sparkly mini dress and matching purse. She also took the stage to sing her new single midnight sky. The musician discussed her track saying Stevie Nicks gave her the green light to sample edge of seventeen within the song. If you did not catch that, you need to go listen to edge of seventeen by stevie nicks because miley Cyrus definitely has a very stevie Nicks vibe on the new song midnight sky. I think I said that right from the beginning. But if you did not catch the sample you need to go listen. So you need to listen to man eater by hall and OATES. Then you need to listen to a Miley. Cyrus is cover of man eater. then. You need to listen to edge of seventeen stevie nicks and then you need to listen to midnight sky. By miley cyrus that samples edge of seventeen. All right. And then. The this information continues I said I have an alternative melody if you don't want if you don't want to. Pay Tribute to you and your greatness and how much you've inspired me Cyrus recalled of her conversation with fleetwood Mac singer and she said you can borrow for me any time. That is absolutely awesome. Awesome, and Stevie, nicks is crazy T was. was is will always be a legend I mean crazy talented obviously fleetwood. Mac Obviously, we can go on on and on about both of them. See if there's anything else here. No, she didn't say anything else but I would challenge go listen to Miley Cyrus is cover of man eater. You'll can look it up on Youtube Miley Cyrus man eater I wish I could play it for you here. But of course, there's copyright violations and I don't want to violate anyone's copyright. So I'm not going to do that but go listen to it. Hey, mile is molly. You should release it as a single and I. Know I. Know This podcast has great power and influence around the world. So miley Cyrus I, know you're one of our top listeners. Obviously. That's not true but. So, and get this to Miley Cyrus released the song as a single it today rerecord it or get the version there I don't know just re record it and do do so. But please had a saxophone is and Can Give me one second here. I'm GonNa make sure of something. It's very much a kind of A. Are we gonNA. See. Yeah they need. They need the saxophone I was just I was just listening to it as lowly as I could right there so that I wouldn't violate any copyright rules. It needs the saxophone every especially at the beginning even if even if she records it, she should just start. With the the kind of an instrumental. intro kind of an a an a kind of musical intro where. No singing and then at least have the saxophone part like kind of a call back to the original, and then go back into what she did on the tonight show. So you kind of have a musical intro right where you have the saxophone we kinda get the classic melody there. We kind of we kinda get that. Then then transition back into the cover that she did without the saxophone I think it would just be a cool. Tribute to the original because the original song us. Oh icon. But there you have it. Miley Cyrus. Go listen to it. Her cover of man eater. Listen to midnight sky glisten to the original man eater by hall and Oates from the nineteen eighty two album H to. Listen to midnight sky by miley Cyrus or a list of what we can do it. This way listen to man eater by hall and Oates from Nineteen Eighty, two album. H. Two O. Man Eater each to nineteen eighty-two hall and Oates then listen to Miley, Cyrus cover of man eater from the tonight show you have to look that up on Youtube then listen to mid are no. Then listened to edge of seventeen by stevie nicks then listen to midnight sky by Miley Cyrus that'll give you a little bit of a musical education where you'll hear the original. You'll hear what has been done and the president and bring the two worlds together because I don't I think I. Think Music is amazing and while you need to go listen to it there you have it. All right. You can email me your thoughts about the song at news. Dot Com news I F at Yahoo Dot Com that's news I F at Yahoo Dot Com. 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Daryl Hall The Hit Man

Broken Record

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Daryl Hall The Hit Man

"Pushkin between two thousand ten in two thousand eleven prince recorded the political statement album. Welcome to america. Before mysteriously shifting away from releasing despite touring under the same name instead he seemed to rededicate himself to the live experience setting up unique concert residencies in cities around the world over the course of the four episode season of the story of welcome to america host injury. winston and special guest co hosts shelby j and morris hayes. We'll take you into the studios of paisley park and out onto the road to learn more about this. Prescient and philosophical period of prince's later career episodes will feature never before heard songs from the upcoming studio release of prince's album before you can hear them anywhere else new episodes every thursday. Wherever you get your podcasts news stories new secrets. 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You can try it for free for seven days. Sign up for push. Nick and apple podcast. Subscriptions daryl hall and john oates are the definition of blue eyed soul. Pay after a string of monster hits extract from the seventy s into the mid eighties. The ria which hands out the golden platinum plaque starters named hall and oates the number one selling duo in music history. Think about that not. I can tina. Not simon and garfunkel not outcast daryl hall and john and they still hold that record today but even with that distinction in the philadelphia duos undeniable. Chemistry colin oates have always maintained that there to individual artists. Like an old married couple. Daryl hall says the duo has managed to stay together for the sake of dozens of songs. They wrote together which they consider their kids episode. Bruce headline talks to daryl hall but the night he met john oates an elevator as they fled a gang fight in philly. Daryl also talks about the years he spent working with the production duo gamble and huff who pioneered the phillies wholesale explains why despite its huge success. He doesn't even really like pop music. This is broken record. Lanna notes for the digital age. I'm justin richmond. Here's bruce had them and daryl hall. While i was doing some research. I realized three things one. Everybody loves daryl hall. And john oates and everybody's got a favorite song. Glad to hear the second thing i didn't know is your groups. Name has never been hall notes. No it's daryl hall and john oates. Did you get tired of correcting people at some point or you just go. Yeah well no. We never get tired of people because the whole point of the whole point of it is that we are two different people. Were not mutton jeff. We're not obse twins. We're not bobbleheads you know. We are to absolutely distinct artists. Do sheriff stage okay. Then from now on. It's daryl hall and john oates. I won't let that happen anymore. There you go. And the other thing. I didn't know about was out of touch thursday. Do you know about this. No what is out of touch. Thursday is on thursdays people. Put up little video memes too out of touch like they'll take clips from the simpsons or from some crazy japanese anime thing really dancing out of touch and they get just an astounding number of hits. I knew nothing of this. Okay well every thursday. I want you to look if you go to out of touch video on your own video on on youtube people here while i'm here because it's thursday. It's out of touch thursday. So i know i'll tell you should goes on i don't know about. It's great the kids today. Okay so you are. One half of the best selling pop duo in history. Not only pop. But you guys have had huge hits unsold charts so kinda wanna go back to where it started in philadelphia kaz make people forget. Philadelphia had its own music culture. And you started very young in highschool didn't you. Yeah i mean. Philadelphia is one of the great music cities in the united states in the world. Really and it's distinct. The way detroit is or i'll even add new orleans in there. You know it. it's it's its own place it's regional. We separately started as kids in that world. I mean i. I was involved in the beginning of the sound of philadelphia. What people call the sound in philadelphia and that was at sigma studio right. Uh-huh yeah okay. So what were you doing back in high school in some of this started. What were you. What were you doing in the studio back. Then well i. I wasn't in the studio in high school. But as soon as i got out of high school i started spending all my time in philadelphia in the city and immediately got hooked up with gamble and huff and tommy bell when people like that and and i was thrown into it really and i was part of the the the whole the whole scene and i was. I was doing studio work plans. Some keyboards doing some background singing of writing songs doing various things like that. Because it's filadelfia was lee andrews part of that scene absolutely. Did you know him. No i did not know. But i was. I idolized him. You know and when i found out that i love is that was his father. you know. yeah yeah i was. I didn't find out until they died. And then i emailed quest. Because i was i told them i said man. Your father was a major influence on me. Song tear drops and all those kind of songs. Who that was that early philadelphia. What some people call do op. I don't all at that. You know it was. It was a early be soul singing. You know vocal group saying he was the son of one of the dixie hummingbirds to Yeah they have quite a linear ad. Bunch. yeah so when you met like gambling. Her for or tom bell these incredible careers. Did you know when you met them. Like these guys are going on big things or they just guys you worked with. Well they were big in the neighborhood you know th they were. They were stars already in in a very local way you know. Kenny owned a record store and he had kenny gamble. The romeo's which was a studio band but also his band. Tommy bell was sitting at the piano writing and he was. He was working with a group of guys. That i knew the dell phonics and i thought they were fantastic. That's the best way to put it. I i immediately became a sponge to them. But i was when i say i was the sponge also contributing you know is a back and forth thing when you take from them from those early days what did you did. You was it songwriting. Was it singing. Songwriting tommy bell. Well both both of them both leon. Huff end tommy bill. I learned a lot about songwriting. I learned about piano playing from. Leon huff a lot the way he plays piano. is very similar to the style. I've adopted And tommy bell has cords. Were just really unique in the in the nba world. He was A fan of burt back and he adopted burt back. Iraq's interesting chords into a more soulful way Self situation and i was watched that transition. I watched him write songs and and listened to bert back and everything else so it was a it was it was. It was school man. I was like going to school with these guys. That's fascinating because i you know. I looked up a bunch of your songs. Mainly our hits and the very sophisticated. The cords are very sophisticated. There's a lot of ninth chords. You do this trick on a couple of songs that i find really interesting which is really delay. Getting back to the tonic year. Like like a song. Kiss on my list. You know you're listening to it. You think oil starts in b minor. So i guess it's in b minor but then it's in b major. So hey i think it's in b major but it's not it's an f. sharp and you don't get it for a long time in a couple of your son. He did that. You're just like oh it really surprises you. Yeah i don't know what to say. I mean i i i. I play around with this. This sort of major minor thing. What else do i do. I do all kinds things over the place. Well you kinds of things that a lot of pop bands didn't do i mean the beatles it some of it but a lot of chromatic things like changes sure sarah smiles got a lot of diminished chords in it. Not just as passing tones and I mean they're very it kind of surprise me and i realize well this is why these songs just they sound different than i would say pop songs not not from soul songs console song have a lot of that kind of in it. I was gonna say. I took a lot from gospel. Music assault music. Like you know you know that kind of stuff. That's that's gospel. Church music you know and adopted a and i don't know man also. I went to music school. I know harmony and theory. I it goes in. It's in the blood you know. And i know what goes to where. And what can go to where. And when things like that. And and i make use of it it sort of not consciously so much unconsciously. What was music like at home for you before you were at the studio with these guys. My mother was in a band when i was a kid. All through my teens. Who from the earliest childhood. All all the way through my teens so some of my first memories are are watching her on stage. What kind of ban was it. It was like a big band kind of lawrence walk kind of big band but you know like variety show but it was still it was music had an audience and people were playing kind of the pop songs at the time and all that kind of thing and it was at a local philadelphia area pensive southeast pennsylvania thing and i used to go on the road with her and watch. This you know isn't bowed down to the to the band leader. This guy was named bill lamb. I wanted to be bill lamb. And and you know he has baton and his white dinner jacket all that shit and my dad was a vocal group with his brothers and sang gospel. Music and my mother was the choir director of the church. And all that kind of thing so it was all tied together in that kind of you and very gospel e show-bizzy kinda thing. Did your mother teach you to say yes. She was vocal teacher to. She's to give lessons and she taught me from their earliest. I mean my mother is a great singer. She's ninety eight now. She's not such a great cigarettes which pisses her off to tell you the truth but yes. She's she was great cigarettes and she knew how to sing. She you know she always had me panting. Like a dog. So i would get get into using my diaphragm and not sing for my throat. Stuff like that can still do that today. Absolutely once you learn something it becomes part of a singer. You know i mean. It's a very organic thing begin. Singer has to do with your with your head and your physical body. The the way you're the size of your throat and everything everything contributes to your what comes out of your mouth when you when you sing You go so quickly from a serve a lower register to a high register and so many songs she taught you that or did you get that from her. Not so much. I don't worry about that from that's just vocal facility. I'll call it. You know. I just if i feel like doing one thing i do it. Yeah so when. Do you know music. This is this is gonna be your life. I didn't really think about it so much. When i was a kid. I just did it. And i came at a time where i wasn't even in a place where i was at charlotte. Ever make any money on it really. I mean i think when. I finally got involved with kenny. And leon and tommy bell i said okay there there is a career here to be and that's when i realized that i needed to do this. I mean it was a compulsion at were your parents encouraging. Always really oh yeah. I guess they'd been in the business. It didn't scare them now. 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You know and it got it got pretty crazy and the everything stopped basically and it was a it was on a second floor and we both found ourselves in an elevator going down to the street and a. I guess that didn't work out very well. And that's and then. We got talking. And i found out that he was. He was also a student at temple. We're both freshman and we wound up being roommates. You know of because we both. We both lived. Our parents both lived out outside of towns and we needed to be in town so we are renting apartments together. Did you start performing together or did you write together. I we were friends and writing separately. And we would occasionally. I don't know we really right together. We didn't really start doing that. Until after school and i was already ensconced very deeply in the old sigma sound thing and i brought jon into it. He was a traveling around. He had just graduated traveling around europe. And i said okay why you come in you know and get involved in this with me and then we started writing songs and uh started performing together then that was about nineteen. I forget one seventy. I'll say seventy seventy one and is there a moment you said we'll click with this guy like voices. Were something the writing work. Something works here the first time that we ever recorded together. We said okay. We'll we'll we'll be songwriters but will never work together because we sound so bad together. He sang a little flat. And i was singing a little short. And it's just great it on your nerves. It was horrible and it took a little while for us to adapt our a vocal harmonies style. So that we could that we locked together and then it turned into what it is but did start. Well really amazing because you hear about like other groups. The everley brothers or simon and garfunkel. Initially some moment where they of ever brothers were their father made them do it but These voices to sound incredible together. That never happened now. It actually never af- there's still a chance. Maybe you're going back out on the road. You could have that magic. Hey we sound pretty good. Yeah you guys got signed to atlantic well first of all. Tell me about your cell because it was produced by a wreath martin who's grow just a legendary producer. I think he did this donny. Hathaway roberta flack records. He did so many great albums he did so many things. You can't even name them all. We got together with reef right at the peak of his time he was he was he was coming off such a well not coming off. He was involved in such a such a dynamic role of working with such disparate musicians. I mean everybody from country artists to jazz artists to carly simon artists to to aretha to donny. Hathaway to you name it. I'm it's like on and on and on and on. And we were right in the smack dab in the middle of all that we couldn't have been in a better place to to make our first couple albums and the thing. I like so much about a reef. Beside the fact that he was the only person i the was was or is better as good as his quincy and in the same way he knows how to draw the best out of any kind of music any kind of artist and work with them and suggest things and molded and and turn it into something that is bigger than what it was. And i learned so much from him. I can't even tell you how much i learned from a re. I loved the guy and so sorry is going on that album you did. She's gone which is just one of the great are in be songs of all time. I mean system incredible song but it wasn't a hit for you not originally no atlantic puerto. These things are. I mean it hits are funny things atlantic put it out. It didn't really do anything it would. They they played it on what they called underground radio back then. Fm radio right then. A group cultivars put out a version of it and it became an rb. Hit on the charts and then Cup a couple years later we we released. It became a number one. Oh i don't know if it was number one but it was definitely top five. Yeah was encouraging that other people are having with your music or discouraging that it it wasn't you that was frustrating because i knew that our version was still the best one and We were starting out. And i felt i felt a bit like okay. They're stealing or steam messing with our momentum but all worked out a couple of years you know and we get out on the road. We we i. I wrote sara smile and that became an rb hit and then she's gone jumped right in after it was it because you were wight artists. Do you think that it made it a little harder to get on the charts just the way the record business works no no. I don't not for us we're different. We're nominees I was on rb charts of philadelphia with group called attempt tones. We had a hard time breaking into pop radio. The black community embraced us really early on in our music so he came in through another another way than most people do when. Atlantic drop jude. What didn't they see that. They should have seen well. I don't blame them. I lost it for a little while there. I we had just moved from philadelphia to new york. And i made made a record. And i will say i made it because it was mostly me and todd rundgren. We made a recco war babies and it was not what atlantic wanted all. They wanted You know our buzek and which is cool. That's what i that's my heart anyway. But for some reason. I decided i wanted to make that record and it was a bad idea really now. A look back line was certainly a creative. That's all it was was a creative. I album but it was sort of mutual. We thought okay. Maybe we should try go. And some other label that would be more willing to run with our expanding creative style And later you jumping ahead here. And i do want to go back to when you guys really started your run of hits but you then when did to really great albums with robert trip and a lot of people would not put together with robert trip he loved. You talked about like the vocalist. Who could do anything. Yeah tell me about meeting him how this came about well. I've been living in spending time in in the uk for ever since really philadelphia. I mean The mid seventy s. And i was interested in robert his music. I love king crimson. And i got to know him and we'd became. We became friends and then after that we both said. Why don't we try and do something together. Nobody expected and our our roots are so different. But yet we've have sort of the same sensibilities and that's what we did and we decided to go for it and make a record and i. It's one of the best things i think i ever did. And him to Do you still play things from it today. On live from daryl's house i do. Yeah i do. Yes okay do you. Keep up with him as well Every once in a while we check in you know he wouldn't have him on the show I just watched the broadcast of his where he said he wanted to have a former super group that i was going to be the lead singer and then i just saw that a couple of days ago. So i mean we're still sort of circling around each other. Well you should do that because that'll be amazing. Yeah i think it'd be great then you did this. You know starting in the early eighties. You'd had a couple of hits. He'd had rich girl. You had sara smile but then you just went on this tare of hits. I think he had sixteen top ten. Hit six number ones. You know you'd kiss on my list and you make my dreams come true. Private is one on one At this point did you just feel like you were a single span. As opposed to an album band at that point they. This is what you visit what you're doing. That's how it turned out. But not at all. I'd never felt i don't really like pop music for you. Want the truth participate in it and obviously my style fits into a what people call pop mode. But i never thought of ever thought of myself as a singles artist. I i when i make an album. It is a complete statement and the the single thing comes after the fact. That's that's somebody wants to sell something so they pick a song and then they pick another song but it's not it's not intent. There's no intent involved in that. We'll be back after a quick break. With more from daryl hall and bruce had this episode of broken record is brought to you by see me. Why hard work and persistence have been a way of life for senior wine since eighteen. Seventy six but the tastes for goodness and unmatched termination. Isabel simi has been the backbone of the winery for over seventy years because when life gave her grapes she knew exactly what to do. And that's why glasses seamy wine as a reward worth having because isabel believes that good things come to those who work hard. 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Before mysteriously shifting away from releasing it despite touring under the same name instead he seemed to rededicate himself to the live experience setting up unique concert residencies in cities around the world over the course of the four episode season of the story of welcome to america host andrea swinson. Special guest co hosts shelby j and morris hayes. We'll take you into the studios of paisley park and out onto the road to learn more about this. Prescient and philosophical period of prince's later career episodes will feature never before heard songs from the upcoming studio release of prince's album before you can hear them anywhere else new episodes every thursday. Wherever you get your podcasts. We're back with the rest of bruce adams interview with daryl hall. There are people you've worked with. That have been important to your career. And i just wanted to talk a little bit about them. Sarah and janet allen whom you wrote with a lot of things with what what. How did that come about. And what was. What was the writing relationship like. Sarah was my I met her in philadelphia and she was my my partner for a twenty eight years and she was there you know. And she's she was a talented is talented lyricist. And she would jump in after certain. I don't know forget one. The first song was but she would. She would start suggesting ideas. you know. that's a good idea. i'm gonna. I'm gonna sing that but on the do that. Then she became more and more involved in the lyrics and she was involved in a lot of songs or how away her sister janna who i also became really close with a younger sister was more of a musician. She was qatar player singer and she came up with amazing ideas. The first song we ever wrote together. Who was kissing my list. And that was about a fifty fifty song. And i wrote that for her because she wanted to be an artist and i made a demo of it and everybody said you're nuts if you give that away and the demo is what you hear that that was just done with this rolling copy rhythm boop boop and all that stuff that was. That was a demo. That wasn't even a real recording. The other people that come to mind are own walk. Was your longtime bass player. People know him from saturday night. Live and tell tell us a little bit about him in his contribution well. T-bone joined us in right before the private eyes album and we immediately became really close friends. I i loved t-bone he was great guy at a really unique sense of humor and he was unbelievable musician. I mean just so good and we we just got closer and closer and and musically and his and his friends and we we start produce eventually we start producing records together and doing things like that are brought him more and more into it. I used to say when he was around. I used to say he's the and in all antidotes. And then you're you're sax player charley. Yeah and people know him. I man eaters maybe one of the best known sax solos from that era. Yeah i mean he. He plays some distinctive sax solos. He's been with us the longest of everybody and he started in nineteen blue. I don't know seventy five. I wanna say so. That's a hell of a long time. He's been with us and he's a he's just great. He's again a really accomplished musician. Really really good. Not only sox player everything you must have during that time. You had that ron of of singles albums you must have been enjoying kind of success. You i don't ever imagine most people can't imagine that kind of success. What was it like. it's been very heavy. Yeah it was when it happened for the first time and we it. I mean it really happened hard as you say and it was. It's the old cliches we felt like we were in the eye of the hurricane and all that kind of stuff. We're things were going on around us and we were kind of like stuck in the middle traveling around working you know going around the world constantly recording and performing recording performing back and forth. That's really all we did back then. We didn't really do anything else. And it's really hard to describe it because you have to live. It felt as if i were objectified a lot. Like i was an object not a person which is unpleasant but at the same time i felt that i had the ear of the world so that i could make some music i i think it perpetuates itself. You know when when you know that you have the year the world then you get spurs you wanna do more at least it does me and that was sort of the way i felt back then and then when it when the single stop coming. You guys were still doing albums. Was it an share. You're still touring and you know every then you was sold out. Was it difficult when you weren't on the radio anymore. But you're still doing music. The difficult i wouldn't use the word difficult. It just was i. Would i've been doing this in around long enough to know that things have highs and lows you have to and individually. We went through different changes right. Then i mean after between a one thousand nine hundred five and about nineteen ninety. We were making records. I made i made a solo record. Dave stewart which had hits on by the way And you know we just rolled with and next thing. I knew i was playing. I mean we never stop playing. That's the thing when you're in front of it audience beer in front of an audience. I mean they're they. Are you know it doesn't matter about chart positions or any of that kind of stuff and now you guys are going back out onto her. Yeah was this delay because of covet or is this is just when you had it planned. Oh well everything fell to pieces. I mean the the last time we played was february of twenty and we played at madison square garden. And then the shit hit the fan and here we are. You know. I mean we. We would have gone out as soon as we could buy. Circumstances allow that so here we are and we're one of the first bands going up. How is it. And i don't mean this facetiously but how you guys made it work this long pop duo's you know you'd think simon and garfunkel or the righteous brothers who broke up pretty soon. After their biggest hits. The everley brothers broke up on stage. How have you guys been able to sort of keep this going. I don't know we might break up on stage one day. You just gonna. You'll never know smashing guitar. And the other one's hit is quite quite is your relationship. I'm not there. I'm going there. No i'm not telling you anything about that. Okay we'll you've got to come back on the podcast but only if you're the one who gets hit by the guitar right i would have. I would have to defend myself. Those okay. well he described. Recently he said. Eddie memphis very affectionately. You're like divorced parents. You've got to look after the kids and the kids are your songs you got to after them. That's a line we both us and it's true we stay together. I wouldn't call. We're not divorced parents when we are parents. Stay together because of the kids. And i wouldn't say that we have the most amazing creative relationship right now but we have our our songs that we do and i think we're at the point where we're thinking about being more even more than we ever were be more individuals and we'll see what happens with that. You think there is more recording for you guys. Or i'm not sure i don't know i actually don't know will. The songs are your kids. Are there some kids. You like more than other kids. Parents aren't supposed to say that. But is there a time when you got up on stage. You're like this is the song i love. This is the one. I'm happy to to play. I like seeing sara smile because it's so real and and so personal i like. There's a lot of them that way. One on ones one of those I don't know. I can't really say there's a that i like more than another one because i i wouldn't sing if i didn't like the song or i was tired of the saw. I we just drop it. We have a lot more to to fill in the blank you know. Are there like well known. Hits years that people show up for. And you're like yeah. I can't do that tonight. I tried doing that and people get angry. You know you didn't play private is like okay. Sorry then and that's a good problem. You know because we have an obligation to play all the songs and that we actually can't play them all in a set an unless we were going to do one of these ridiculously long sets. We have so many songs to play and we try to throw we try and throw things in our less known or whatever and things like that but most of the time we're obligated to play certain songs contractually obligated. You've got a well the the contract of the between us and the public yes. So what are you writing now. I've been coming up with ideas. But i don't like to take things to completion until it's time to complete it and i've been in sort of creative hibernation. I have a lot of songs i did. A lot of false starts. And i'm but i believe next year early next year. I'm going to start really getting serious about putting these things down. Are you one of the songwriters who in the songs. Don't make sense until you're in the studio. No they make sense from the get go. you know. Be sitting at the instrument. And your other outlet i have to ask you about is Are you buying more homes now. You know anything big. I'm restoring. actually. I'm still restoring the same home that i was doing. I backed off it for a little while. And now i'm back on it again and actually. That's what i was doing during this whole lockdown thing is. I would just working on the house so that at least there was something to do. What does that give you that. That's different from music. What kinda satisfaction. Well actually gives me the same satisfaction in some ways. It's not that spontaneous. Birds gotta sing kind of satisfaction. But it's there's a certain kind of creative stimulation that it provides restoring an old house or anything like that. It's it's not that dissimilar to getting a group people together who you really think are amazing and doing an album you know. And everybody's contributing their little ideas and it's the same thing with these artisans you know guys that build antique style chimneys and people that know this no that and i. I'm sort of producer that holds it all together and i. I have a lot of knowledge about About antique architecture especially between the seventeenth and nineteenth century. So i you know. I like to do it. That's all i can say. I've done a lot of them. Well you know song architecture to so best of luck on the tour. I don't think you're going to need it for me but it'll be fantastic for people to see you guys again. Well it'd be great to be out there and see them so it works both ways all right. Well thank you so much for doing this. Okay thank you. Thanks the daryl hall coming on the show and chatting with bruce. You can check out all favorite hall note. Psalms at broken record podcasts dot com subscribe to our youtube channel at youtube dot com slash. Broken record podcast. we can find all new episodes. You can follow us on twitter at broken record broken records this help from the arose jason gambro martinez dollars sandler and jennifer sanchez with engineering. Help from nick. Chafee or executive producer is about broken record is production pushkin industries. You love this show. And others from pushkin industries. Consider becoming a push nick bush a podcast inscription that offers bonus content and uninterrupted ad. Free listening for four ninety nine. Look for push. Nick exclusively on apple podcasts excursions. 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Music Options for Amazon Alexa in Canada

Alexa in Canada

14:08 min | 2 years ago

Music Options for Amazon Alexa in Canada

"You're listening to episode ninety four of Alexa in Canada the voice experience my name's Terri Fisher and here's the deal voice technology is changing so fast and I'm trying my best to keep up with it. I'm here to learn everything anything I can about Alexa so you and I get figure her out and so we can make our lives more organized relaxed stress ry and even have some fun. Let's learn some skills. Hey there and welcome to episode ninety four of Alexa in Canada. It's it's a real pleasure to have you along with me today. Today is a special episode because I am talking all about the music options that you now oh have available to you when using your echo devices with Amazon lexi well A. L. E. X. but we referred her as Lexi here on the podcast all right right so just before we get to that though I wanNA remind you about a course that is available to you and that of course is flash briefing formula that is a premier course that I created it. It basically teaches you how to start from the beginning of coming up with an idea for your very own flash briefing and take it all the way to having that produced an out out there on the lexi devices and the course teaches you every single thing that you need to know in order to get that done. It's a free course and so if you're interested I did go and CHECK OUT FLASH BRIEFING FORMULA DOT COM okay so let's get to today's parts episode and I'm really excited about this and the reason I chose to do one now L. specifically about the music options that you have with your echo devices is because there's been some big big news out in Canada just in the last week occur so one of the most requested features and I've gotten tons of e mails and questions about this is when was apple music going to be made available in Canada with the Amazon Echo devices and I'm really happy to say that finally it is here here it just launched within the last week or so and lots of people are now very very happy about this. I can tell you prior to the launch. I was speaking with a source inside Amazon and they were saying that the technology has always been set out but it was there were some other issues. I'll leave it at that. You have to use your imagination but the technology has not been the the barrier there in any case this apple music is now available and it can be used with your echo device so I wanted to go through today and just lay out for you the different different options that you now have when it comes to choosing your music service and then once we talk about those different options I will tell you go through a little tutorial but how you actually set the set up each one of those options and it's actually very similar regardless of which option you choose but I'll just go through how you actually do that so once you've chosen that you can set it up so there are a number of options that you have available to you when using the the Amazon Echo devices and if you go into your for Amazon A. L. E. X. APP and you click on the menu icon the hamburger icon and you click down to settings then you will see you have an option option to click on music and this is part of how you set it up but I just want to let you know that you now have the following options available to you. You Have Amazon music. You have have spotify you have tune in you have apple music and you have. I'm going to be honest. I don't know a lot about I've never used in my life but but it is an option for you there I would have to say that the top three options in terms of popularity in no particular order but the top three are Amazon Music spotify by an apple music and so I wanna go through a little bit about each one of those and tell you a little bit about the pricing of each one of those as well so let's talk about spotify spotify is sort of the the big Goliath here I think as far as music services is provided right now and probably one of the most popular ones this is actually one of the ones that I subscribe to curly and my family really enjoys this. It seems to have all the music that we like so to be honest. We haven't actually made the effort to switch because we've been really happy with spotify. I would actually be very curious if you're listening to this podcast and you have tried other services and you've been able to compare them to please send me feedback. I'd love to hear hear that to see what are the major differences that you find among service providers but any case spotify is a very well known music streaming service and they have a couple of different prices so let me tell you about those prices. First of all spotify does have a three month free trial so if you're not sure if you want it and you want to just give it a shot you can try it for three months for free so that's great eight once you've used up your trial then you're looking at nine ninety nine per month and that's an individual plan so meaning you doc be able to listen on one account at a time. Why is that important for Amazon Echo devices well? Here's the thing if you're listening to your music on one one device and you have another device registered under the same account. You cannot listen to different music on that second device vice at the same time. Someone is listening to music on that first device. If somebody tries to listen to music on that second device then it will either play it play that same music on both devices or it will stop the music on the first device or changes to the song that was last requested so if you're a single person or you don't have an issue if two people in your house trying to listen to two different songs at the same time the individual plan may work for you and that's a similar scenario for all these services I I should mention so there's an individual plan spotify again ninety nine per month now. If you want to have the option of having two different people listening listening to two different songs on two different devices so you want that that that flexibility then you're going to be wanting to look at a family plan and family plan allows allows up to six different people or six different devices to be playing six different things at the same time and that's fourteen ninety nine a month so for five dollars more four month you get that flexibility so something to consider spotify also has a student plan so if you can prove that you are a student you can get the individual individual plan for four ninety nine per month so that's half price off the regular individual plan okay so that's kind of how the spotify pricing breaks down ninety nine per month for individual plan half that so four ninety nine for student plan and fourteen ninety nine for a family plan all right. Let's talk about Apple Music now so apple music this is the newest service in Canada. People are excited about it. Here's the deal it's actually very very similar. When the pricing when you look at the pricing the three month free trial is there as well with apple music and then you have that individual plan seem price ninety nine per month you have a family pro family plan same price fourteen ninety nine per month and and you have a student price same price for ninety nine per month so there you go same as spotify virtually identical three month three trial while nine hundred nine individual four ninety nine student fourteen ninety nine for a family plan again the family plan allows you to have six different users zirs at the same time playing different things k now when it comes to Amazon it gets a little bit more interesting and no surprise when we're talking about the echo device what your pricing structure is going to be you see the issue here is that Amazon has different pricing for their Amazon Music Service? If you you are a prime member or not and on top of that they have two different levels of service they have Amazon prime music and they have Amazon unlimited music and explain those a little bit first of all. Let me tell you how this works. If you do not subscribe to Amazon prime because in that case it's actually very similar to the other services that I just described describe to you if you do not have prime an individual account for Amazon music unlimited which is the one that would be comparable to spotify and apple music music because it's got tens of millions of songs as do the other ones. The pricing is the same as the other ones. It's going to be ninety nine per month. A family plan is going to be fourteen not ninety nine per month again with six users and their student plan is a little different instead of having a student. They have a single device plan meaning. This will allow you to only use the service on one single echo device now. If that's good for you then that's great because the prices actually three ninety nine per month actually the least expensive of any of the plant's four dollars a month so that might work very well well for you now. If you are a prime subscriber things get a little more interesting because first of all with prime if you're a prime subscriber you automatically get something called Amazon prime music with Amazon prime music. You get access to about two million songs which is a plot but it doesn't compare to Abba music spotify or Amazon unlimited which have tens of millions of songs in the neighborhood of forty to fifty fifty million songs so if you're happy with sort of the the limited seems funny to say limited when there's actually two million songs there but if you're having with the limited limited repertoire of Amazon prime music then if you subscribe to prime you don't need anything else and that's works out great however you will probably find that when new releases come out they're not going to be available on Amazon prime that same day like they would be on apple music spotify an Amazon unlimited so just something to keep in mind now if you WANNA go for Amazon unlimited which is more comparable to spotify and apple music. Here's the interesting part the pricing is different and Amazon gives you a discount so if you're a prime member you now pay for Amazon Unlimited as an option seven ninety nine per month and that that is for the Individual Account K. but here's the here's the other aspect of this is that you get more of a discount if you pay annually so you can pay seventy nine dollars per year and that basically gets you two months free so if you're already a prime member and you WANNA pay annually you'll be paying seventy nine dollars per year for an individual account of of Amazon Unlimited Music and when you compare that to spotify or apple all of nine hundred ninety nine per month over the course of a year for an individual account you're looking at seventy nine dollars Amazon unlimited annually versus one hundred twenty twenty dollars with spotify or apple music so that's where the discount comes in an Amazon obviously does this very much so as an incentive for you to become a prime member. The family plan is actually the same price at fourteen ninety nine however as well you can pay annually for one hundred forty nine dollars and then you get two months wants three or you're saving thirty dollars K so that is how the different services breakdown and that's how the pricing breaks down based based on that and based on your preference based on what services you enjoy Hopefully that helps you to make a decision about which service you want to go with a doing a mentioned that if you want want to try prime you can actually get a free trial by going to AOL A in Canada dot. Ca Slash prime that is my affiliate link doing a small commission. There's no extra cost you whatsoever but it's very appreciated. If you choose to do that now. Finally I want to finish off with telling you how you go and set up these music services and it's relatively simple now all you have to do is you go to your Lexi APP and you click on the menu icon which is in the top left corner and once you do that you're going to see if you scroll down. You're going to have an option to click on music now. When you click on music there you have a number of services listed if you've already subscribed to some or there's also so a feature there with a little plus sign where it says link news service he simply click on that you then click on the service that you want to link and really just follow the prompts on your screen? They will be some account linking because you're going to have to link your account. Do you subscribe to to your Lexi APP and once you've done that then you are. I'm good to go and then you can start to use your voice commands and control your favorite music service all right so there you go. I hope that is very helpful for you. Those those are the options out for you right now. I know a lot of people are very happy about this like I said this was a very very frequently request. Feature probably one of the most frequently request features that I he was getting emails about and so I think that's great that finally Abba Music is here and you've got your options apple music spotify Amazon Prime Music and Amazon Music Music Unlimited. Thank you very much for tuning in this week. Hope that was helpful and I look forward to bringing you another episode next week in the meantime. If you want to check out the FLASH BRIEFING FORMULA DOT COM course please feel free to do that of course courses free and they'll help you get started. I will be speaking at a special event called the voice of the flash briefing event next October third next October third on October third and hope you will join in there. I've got some really exciting announcements as as well to do to give at this event with regards to flash briefing so I hope you'll tune in for that. It's going to be a great great event with some great speakers for all the show John oates check out the page A. L. E. X. A in candidate dot. Ca Slash Ninety four of links everything was talking about and I will talk to you again and next week take everybody. She

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An Almost Religious Awe

Fandom Zone Podcast

1:13:37 hr | 2 years ago

An Almost Religious Awe

"Yeah hello again. Everyone welcome back back to the zone. PODCAST I'm one of your co host. Charles skaggs back in the Phantom zone once again. Ready to talk. Some more watchmen as we get very very close to our Series or season hopefully season finale. And I'm joined of course by. Hi My wonderful co host. Longtime friend and fellow watchmen Watcher Jesse. Jackson how're you doing. Jesse I am great Charles You know I get sad every time you go away. Aw you take a little piece of be with you every time when you go in good use of songs it was so well done. I like their hall and John oates Yet Now that was that was a cover version by the way it was. I did not notice that. Yeah that is I'm trying to remember who originally sings it. I want to say Paul all Yang Yes yes yes Holland notes though. Doing it on a watchman. Yeah it was. It was hollering. Yeah that was a whole notes version Asian but I think I think that's Paul Young Song that there it is but yeah otherwise Yeah here everybody. Welcome back For Episode One seventy one. We're GONNA talk an almost religious. Aw Yes another. Great title from the watchmen. Comic Book Series. I'll talk about that more in a minute. Written written or is he's me aired on December. I twenty nine thousand nine. So we're kind of playing catch up again. Our schedules were not working out. So apologies for not then losing track again. But we're GONNA talk a little bit we're going to have the same problem with with Dr who You know Sunday Sunday nights are tough because Sunday mornings are jam. Sunday mornings were blocked off Charleston. I do are podcasting. And so when there's a show Sunday night it makes it a little bit more difficult to find time so for an APP to figure it out we'll figure it out because I'm more flexible lexical. I'm willing to use that. DVR Technology Center but This episode written by Stacey Kafor and Claire Kyko Heiko so this is the first story I episode not written by Damon Lindelof. Okay so I thought that was kind of interesting thing. But it's still a solid episode in my absolutely another great one directed by David Semel. WHO's also new to watch men? And I. I WANNA get your general thoughts on this before we get into our discussion. So so Jesse what overall what did you think of this episode seven. I really loved it. I think I think everything about this series continues to get better. It's clear there is a few things I didn't like about this episode. But they were too small for me to nitpick too much For the first time I thought the Adrian vet a plot was did not need it. But everything else was just really great I almost don't want another seasons because less for me I know but it's just you you there's something about you set. The bar are so high right. Are you going to be able to do it again. And I do get the feeling that Unless they can come up with another story that is this solid solid. I don't know if they will go for another one because I'm sure. HBO wants this. 'cause as we tweeted viewers are really high on this. Yeah apparently currently this is one of HBO's Highest rated shows in a good while. Yeah I can't remember the last show was that got this kind of initial reaction positive reaction and I won. I WANNA season two. If only to find out what happened to Dan Driver D- Yet good because they we know always imprison. Yeah but I want to know the events about how he got there why he and Laurie or separated why she decided to end up. Working for the The FBI while you Kinda know that a little bit because the PD pedia. Yeah Pedia I want to see on screen And I know Linda Office said you will not see Dan this season right so gas keywords being this season yes yeah I just. They haven't not announced the second season. I just I know now were were arguing about to greatness yes Yeah and don't get me wrong. If if they give a second season I am. I'm just saying that's how much I'm loving. This is just like this is so good and how about you. Are you happy with the episode. I was very happy with it. It was nice is to get some more background about Angela Vietnam when she was younger a child and and you know we got more. Obviously the of the modern Angela with lady true and beyond who are lady true and beyond are two very epigrammatic characters that Are are just you know one of the one of the greater mysteries of this this season and I'm I'm always looking forward to finding out a little bit more about their background. And we basically got a much greater explanation of the true villain behind this series. Yes and and what their plot is. So we'll talk about that because I have four topics four topics I want to talk about. I want to talk about young Angela. The second topic. I want to talk about the Modern Day Angela. The older Angela Lady True and Beyond and third topic Lori. Jane and Joking Okay. So so Jane Crawford Joking Lori and then four topic we have to talk cal. Because there's there's a nice little revelation at the end confirming what a lot of people were suspecting online. Yeah I had not I oh I did not see this still a couple of weeks ago. I guess. Two weeks ago where On my phone when I go to Google it tells tells me It knows what I normally Google about. So it gives us an suggested you know five theories before tonight's episode in the first theory theory was that cow was doctrine Hatton spoilers and That's the first I've heard of that and You know I think they played fair with us and it. It was great. Yeah and you said from the beginning you thought there was something going on with him. Well I remember. I was focused on like okay. What's the deal with his accident? Something's up with that. Yeah because they just kind of casually drop this information is and I figured well there has to be more the story. What's the accident? Yeah because that sounds sounds kind of important and Obviously I think we're going to get the pay off of that you know we're going to get that story in our next episode. Yes yes and we'll talk about that when we talk about. What's coming up next on the fan zone at the end of the episode? So stay all right. So let's get into our low discussion ocean. Obviously we've got a lot of the characters that were have been introduced already in this episode although we get like an older junie Abbar and we get young Angela. We get to see more of Angela's parents. Marcus Abar and lease as far as we get to the story of more of how they died which I thought was interesting Trivia. This time I want to talk about the title and an almost religious awe if you're wondering about that title it's from Dr Manhattan's own recollections describing the reaction of the Vietnamese soldiers that surrendered to him when America won on the Vietnam War. And this of course you know. Depicted in the original watchmen series back in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight six. The quotas taken directly from watchmen number. Four page twenty panel to if you're curious and where Dr Manhattan recites the line you you know describing their reaction to him and he says describes it as their terror of me balanced by an almost religious. Aw Yeah were they kinda see themselves kind of like Bowing down to him in subservience in as L. as he they view him as a as a God essentially really yes and because of his great power and then second bit of Trivia. Want to talk about When we see that Dr Manhattan Marionette Annette being controlled by puppeteer That's a reference to align said by Dr Manhattan when Laurie In in the original comic book when asked if he's just a puppet following a script in issue number nine if curious about that and he responds. We're all puppets Laurie. I'm just a puppet who can see the strings. Yes so very cool. Quote by Alan Moore. Writer of watchmen in that one and Some significance I think in this episode all right. And probably the upcoming watchmen episodes. So let's drive right it into our main topics topic number one young Angela. So let's talk about Angela as a kid in Saigon Vietnam Vietnam of course being the US's fifty first state in this alternate reality where thanks to Dr Manhattan America one Vietnam War instead of losing using it and Took it on as fifty first state. So what was your take about. seeing getting more young Angela in this episode breath of I really liked seeing young Angela. you know. I love her octopus of your growing up in Vietnam Tom. She did not see a lot of people that looked like her and so that's why she wanted to watch that. VHS Tape and It's I think it's interesting. That her dad because of his background with his Father Aka hooded justice. Yes you know you. Don't trust people with masks ask. We're not gonNA watch that And the idea that Her parents were killed in front of ver- very Batman Ish yes You know so I liked it. I liked everything about the storyline. I I thought it was interesting. The the Vietnamese lady detective or cop you know Oh giving her a badge saint come look for me and then of course how poorly she's treated in the orphanage right and you think she's going to get some hope and then her she's dashed again so yeah when her grandmother you know the older June you know who the justices wife who Who left him as we found out? comes to claim her. Yes because you know. Her son is dead so Angela is ends up in this orphanage as a result. The problem is you know after they sit down and have a nice meal or something. They often get into a taxi cab to go to the airport. Presumably and Angela's Mo- our grandmother Walks around to the other side The taxi and apparently has a heart attack. Yes because she had talked about during the meal she had had a small little stroke. Nothing to worry about right and and then obviously it was. Yeah apparently so. Yeah so I kind of curious about okay so if Angeles grandmother died How does I should get from Vietnam to America? Well And I think she grew up in Vietnam and then the story right was that her in cow. How got tired of being in Vietnam and there was an opening right at You know so. That's why she moved But obviously that doesn't that's that's not true though because especially if you check out the PDIP Pedia pedia little mini site that HBO's kind enough to provide died. 'cause we have a nice little hospital report of cow so the question is you know like That apparently they just randomly met her. That you know that she was an officer that found him. Yes so So I'm wondering obviously we'll maybe we'll get more of the story next week about how that happened and ABC curious how she got from Vietnam to America. Well and I it is America. I guess the fifty first State but yeah what what mainland has what I was wondering is why Tosa and You know was it because you know she knew her grandmother was there was was from there. You know why. What about that kind of led to it and it is GONNA be curious if they can show us why they made that choice? Yeah so Yeah we'll see what happens now. Pedia pedia does say though there was a a large population of African Americans who migrated to Vietnam. But but not the other way around. So we'll see how again. Yeah how they ended backup and tells him well. I guess it's kind of a home for because her grandmother came from there. Yeah and her grandfather so all right One one of the things that is most significant about the about young Angeles tail. Is this videotape this VHS tape sister night that apparently Angelo was obsessed with for some reason apparently presumably because being in Vietnam. There weren't many people that looked like her. Yeah that's what I mentioned and I read somewhere else. Yes said yeah you know so you know it sister night. And you know with this tagline on the video which I love the non with the mother effing gun yes which is one of the the track titles by Trent Reznor and Atticus Carr's Ross on the soundtrack their score. Oh Nice Yeah. Yeah so it's the it's the kind of music that's playing when when Angela was chasing from the The Guy who used the oil. I can't remember the guys that the nickname they gave him. But Luke Luke guy or yeah so when we when she was chasing him that's that's music Her sister night theme Song Essentially essentially. Yes which is very cool but But you know Angela we find out is a kid. She was obsessed with this video. She kept trying to Watch it it but our parents of course what letter because I guess it's R. Rated and very violent even. The Clark knows that she tries to get this from Knows knows that Angelus tried this before and tells her you know. Your parents aren't going to let you. Yeah I thought that was funny. He and he says and I'll be here you know and she just continues to be optimistic right like okay. This is the time to be able to convince them. Yes yes as yeah from from like this video rental store I guess and but of course you know that doesn't work out and You know we see we see her with her family family. Her parents Was it What's his name Oh Yeah Marcus so marcus is in the military and they seemed like very very lovely people but unfortunately tragedies you talked about the tragedy takes his turn and our parents are killed by. Yeah this kind of suicide bomber. Who's you know saying? You know death to the invaders. What I get the feeling of and I think you'll agree with me? Charles's this is this is similar to Like the IRA you know. There's this whole exactly system that wants freedom four four Vietnam right you know that. They want their the ability to not be a state they want to be. You know have have their own freedoms so I think that was kind of interesting and A Nice subplot from my perspective. Yeah and she ends up of course in that orphanage and we find out. Interestingly enough that she keeps two items she actually has two possessions. That does she keeps under her pillow. Yes the badge that the cop gave her when they took her her parents. Murderer out Out And yes and killed him and she has the sister night videotape. Yes I I kind of wonder if she ever got to watch it. I'm guessing she did when she was older. Yeah I'm thinking so too but but you know she's still hangs onto that. That's her memento. Yes of them. So it's Kinda interesting and obviously that stuck with her which is why she takes on the sister night identity as as an adult. Yeah it's not quite quite a bat flying through a window of Bruce Wayne studying but you know it happens so anything about young Angela before we move on Nope nope I think. I think that was really well done. I did not write down that I did not write as many quotes as down as I could have because I think this was i. I keep I've watched the washed it three times. Yeah and I've got my notes in each time. I get sucked into the story but there is the kind of forget to get the like. Oh yeah they're supposed to give the nose I get I get in this habit of like okay watch it live the first time. I don't do anything but watch it. Yeah and then the second viewing is when I have the closed captions up on my computer. Yeah and then I can get down to quotes. Oh that's that's a sharp one and that's how Oh. Yeah so what I like is the whole But when she whose memory was that in like oh it's my birthday party party I gotTa Pony She's very sarcastic and not talking of course about talking of course about the older sorry Angela. Yeah yes yeah. Yeah so yeah good stuff yeah all right. So let's while we're on the topic of the older Angela. Let's drive right into our second topic so The Modern Day Angela Angela. Twenty one thousand nine Angela and lady true and beyond yes her who we find out obviously is a clone. Her dead dead. Mother apparently reinstalling memories for so that she can have her parents back again or at least and So Oh so before we get into that. Let's talk about a little bit of Angela who is recovering from her big Overdose yes of Nostalgia. Yeah and serious in the stalls you overdose here and Apparently she's been coming in and out. her memories keep kind of resetting but they've but lady true is providing the treatment so that Angela's original memories can be locked back in yeah they. They did a really cool video of showing that they've Davis tablet. Angeles ask these questions multiple times each time. She really wakes and so they they give her an injection. It's like a tutorial Torio injection about an explains what they're going to go in there and they have to exterminate the false memories and put in the correct correct memories. And that's process called Nemo Dialysis. Yeah and I thought of a little bit If we were gonNA believe the The worst about someone you could actually assume that They created the problem with nostalgia so they could sell the cure but I like most pharmaceuticals. Yes yes but in this case I really did think they were a little bit You know the the billionaire billionaire the lady. Yeah I think lady true was a little bit naive. That people would want to do this. And then that's why they came up with the cure the war they try to fix this. Yeah so I don't know if that was a a plan like you know new coke or something I don't know about you but I always thought of whether the tutorial video was going on I kind of thought of that The popular mean with Captain America. Where you know his stat instructional video events events movie where where he sits down? He turns the chair around and sits down. And he's like so you've done this like so you you've essentially overdosed overdosed on nostalgia pills so let me tell you how. We're GONNA fix this exactly so I thought that was cute so she so Angelis trying to as she's recovering her memories though Angela. It's still still the COP. She still trying to figure out what lady true is doing and because she's kind of wondering well you know what's Lady trues involvement and all this Lori Lori true says well hey you know Laurie from the FBI. Laurie Blake contacted me For help but Angela kind of is trying to find out what the deal is with the Millennium Clock and And we have beyond kind of giving her the psychological tests. It's you know Kinda showing her two pictures and getting her reactions of those. It's almost kind of like went. Rohrschack was getting the second psychiatric. I trick evaluation. Yeah it was. I thought that was really well done the way that The AH the the way that she kinda covered that well because no one flies a kite by themselves. Yeah Yeah so yeah I liked that I liked Beyond kind of pointing out to to to Angela. That about her being a cop hiding her identity from her kids to Angela says that well and I have this quote but but she she talks about how she wants to protect your kids and beyond point is well. You know if you know if you don't want your kids to worry then why are are you cop. Yeah I thought that was a really well done and the like. Yeah because the way they said you you know really this is to protect you. Notice them right well if it was really them. Yeah so I thought that was really well done one of the things. I really enjoy about the series. It's really exploring the I the concept of masks and secret identities and the reasons for them yes ask putting a really fresh spin on those. My I agree. So as I as a big superhero fan. I'm really find that interesting. Yeah and and you know. We'll talk talk about this more as we continue in. Probably in our wrap up I really applaud. You know I never. I never was unhappy with Damon Lindelof and Carlton Crews I. I was not. I did not have the anger with the lost finale. That a lot of people did and I really was a big leftovers leftovers fan and so I have pulled for both of them but I love the idea that he said. I'm not GONNA do watchmen. Unless US I can do something worthy of that legacy and they could still screw it up episodes. Obviously he feels he can do something think worthy legacy. Because he's made it. Yeah and I so far. I think they have lived up to that. I think has done He he has taken that and not just done a really good cover. 'cause you could make the argument. The watchman movie is a great cover of the original series series. If we're talking musical terms yes it's a retelling adapting it for film adaptation of the Comic Series but this is a sequel. Oh yes it's something new using using the concepts. Yeah so it's kind of like what I comparing Classic Star Trek to Star Trek the next generation view. It's something that takes place later. Yeah it's still sitting at seaworld but it's not a rehash. It's something different. Yeah absolutely different characters characters difference. You know reason motivations and whatnot. Yeah and it's it's turning out to be far better than I think we could have hoped. Oh yeah absolutely and I don't know I thought it was great that Angela keep saying she wants to see her grandfather. I WANNA see your GRANDPA okafor. And they're like well no you've got to. Which of his memories? If you got in front of him it you might wear would you you. And and he begins and she is being a cop obsessed with. I've got to get here. I gotta get gotTa here and then when you get the reveal of. What's behind that locked door that I did not have that in the the betting pool? Yeah I don't I don't think anybody we did so so so. What was your reaction to seeing that elephant that was essentially plugged into Angela? You're like what the F. now. Remember Elephants Have Great Memories Right. That's the whole gag. Oh Yeah I hadn't thought of that but yet I just remember elephant never forgets right. Yeah so presumedly gag that You know an elephant Are that Angela you know that we're her. Memories would would be helped by giving you know whatever from an elephant see. I was thinking because it was big enough. that it would It would have a lot of blood. Yeah so that you could handle the cleaning of us but no I like your theory of an elephant is supposedly having a strong memory. Makes so much more sense. Yeah I don't know how scientifically valid that is but I think it's it's perfect for what it's saying. I agree right but for whatever whatever reason either worked or that whole treatment was just a complete. Bs Yeah but if but if it was complete bs then why even bother hooking it up her up to an elephant why Nestle Hook it up to a machine or ask cables left in a room somewhere well or you could have just right so it had to have a purpose. All you know. Almost like Dialysis when your kidneys are working. Yeah so it could have done that so I think it's got a decent. Is that what is described as memory dialysis. Yes We're they're kind of flushing out the bad and putting in the good. Yeah so so So maybe the they just kinda flush it in with elephants stuff maybe should come out with empowers if that's what what happened is Stanley was writing. That I'm just saying all right So we get An and Angela she sneaks out after you know after she finds out that this whole deal with the elephants she ends up in a Texas elevator finds herself in a hallway and she goes to this large dark chamber with this globe of the world in the center and and when she touches it you know like whatever various countries you know she sees those phone calls to Dr Manhattan including lorries that we saw earlier in episode. Three so what. A great reveal Charles because year going. Okay the whole reason. We're having having this Is that we can have Laurie. You know tell this joke in this narrative of finding out more more about her but now we find out that that actually that lady true is has a bill. She's only sets us up. She gets the ability liberty and who knows what data knowledge. I think masks because of this right. She's basically used as a data mining tool. Yeah and as a result. Yeah she's She's probably learned a lot. I would add so and maybe in the process this is how she found out looking back now. She found out about what the seventh cavalry is up to. We'll talk about that in here in a minute but but she's telling Angela essentially that You know that the Seventh Cavalry is plan is to capture doctor Manhattan and destroy him and then they're going to become him. I guess so. She feels it's up to her to To save humanity. Yeah now one of the things. I thought it was interesting about this episode as far as revealing information about lady true You know she says that Someone you know like she she she ca- She kinda hints that someone is going to be arriving to help her. Be a part of this or to help save humanity right and I think you know a lot of us have been kinda wondering well. Is she referring to Ozzy Mantius in which I kind of hinted remember in the previous episode about the possibility that Ozzy Mandy India's or that lady trew is Ozzy Mantius his daughter. See so I think it could be because you you know we. We were talking about her worship. You know why she has the statue of Ozzy. Mandy this yeah so I think a part of this part of her plan is to bring bring us. He manages to Earth and remember that thanks from the sky when she purchased that property. And so that could be. That could be ozzy mantius suggests that fell. Yeah see I was thinking that somehow doctor Manhattan was her father I don't know why just because she's so smart mark in right because she's talking about. She's her father's going to be here. I like your theory better. But because Ozzy media says the world's smartest man apparently yes and she's the smartest woman right 'cause you know I have thought about the You know the the comedian makings having someone pregnant. Vietnam and he ends up killing The mother and you wonder later later did Did Dr Manhattan Somehow Revive Baker. Come back alive. And that's where the daughter came from from and that's why she thinks of Dr Manhattan as father. That was my theory but I like yours better. Yeah she seems to be obsessed with Ozzy manuals that statue kind of proved it to me. So that's what kind of makes me think that. Yeah that That he's her father and that's who she's waiting for. I agree because I remember. She said that She wants both of her parents with her in Asia. Angela asked her well okay. So where's Your Dad And she says something along the lines of that. Well he'll be here soon. And that's what I thought of Dr Manhattan Manhattan but I like yours better your theory. Well we'll see WHO's right. We'll see his right you. May I think the document hadn't is certainly a possibility here. Yeah but the idea if you throw in. That's if he showed up that's why she wanted to own the land right. That's what we wanted that We'll see yeah all right anything about these characters now. Oh I have I ask what did you make of the the revelation that beyond clone so we kind of have thought that right. Yeah I think we were kind of wondering that she was a clone one of her right but not a clone of her mother. Yes so I I. I was happy with that. I think is interesting Kim regime though now it didn't surprise me. I I really like her daughter. Yeah or slash mom. She's very likable and so I I think that's pretty cool Yeah I I It's a little little little little just well. It's a little a lot not yeah. I just like the idea that it's this this little point that you had not on expected to happen and you wonder how all of that is going to tied together. Yeah you know a and that kind of you know it's so crazy and even Angelo's just like really what's yeah exactly can't believe what you're telling me but Anyway all right so let's move on topic number three. Let's talk about Lori. Jane Crawford who gets a big revelation in this episode and and Joe Keene. Yeah who apparently has a plan with seven cavalry so so so Lori to kind a set this up. Laurie ends up going outside. Or you know. She's kind of waiting outside the Crawford ranch to talk to Jane and the two of them kind of You know she. Jane invites her in. Yes and Lorry goes there with the Pretense at least to go look. You know we've kind of find out who killed your husband. And why so. She tells him about that and then ultimately Jane reveals that. Hey She's part of this whole conspiracy. So so what was your reaction to all that. So I wasn't shocked. I thought she might be I did love the matter of fact way. Well we we were going to go the presidency. We decided to shoot further. Yeah and then there was small potatoes. She she says yeah My only I expect more from Laurie to just stay. You know. While she's trying to hit that Click Click To not go what the hell and so I was a little surprised I think the idea and she later talks about that. WHO WHO has a trap door was funny so that when my funny see because there's a great scene where they're sitting in Jane's Living Living Room yes lorries on his couch or whatever and Jane reveals okay? She confesses to everything she so matter of. In fact about like well you know. I guess I wasn't supposed to confess so soon And and she goes you know she starts pulls out what looks like a garage. Door opener are from the eighties. Yes it does doesn't it. And she she clicks this thing. It doesn't work the first time. So she clicks it again still doesn't work it kind of jostles a little little bit just like what are you doing. And then she presses it a third time and Censor through this trap door So you know no. And that's one of the things. Laurie talks to joking about like who has a trap door in their living room. Yeah I was a very funny scene. I I love Jean Smart so much in you know in in almost everything she's in right but it just she's I'm tired. You know I'm going. Yeah I just you know if you want me to do this then good Just do whatever but you know And I really love that. I love her just being discussed it and just tired and and in your weary we're We're superhero life. Yeah Yeah Yeah so I liked it allow I love. I love that Lori. Made that connection. You know that when when she keeps playing back Angela's words that she uttered while she was under tripping balls on Nostalgia Yeah You know she keeps playing it back on like Old Dale Cooper style. dictaphone from twin peaks aches. And she you know she. She makes the connection that okay. cyclops is probably just this you know like the Seventh Cavalry is just an renamed rebranded cyclops. Yes so which is kinda portent and it kind of brings everything together that hey this conspiracy has been around since back in the hood of justice days and you know you know. Laurie obviously veasley describes it as a racist cult but You know and you know you know talks to you too Jane about low. I guess it would be remiss of me if I was. I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't at least consider the possibility that your husband might be a white supremacist. Yes I really liked that And we know that judge felt that that was his legacy. Yes and I thought it was very interesting to see It turns out that you know they. Their plan is to. They've got to take care of things because you know we're you know I've got that quote You know the the balance his tip too far the scale is far. Yeah this is a very you know. White supremacist very racist attitudes. Yes it is And definitely not endorsed by this show but You know part of their. You know one of the things that Lori kind of tips to with Jane and she says along with the lines with that you know that that Senator Joe Keene Engineer Engineer the White Knights of the cops would wear masks so that nobody will be able to distinguish between the good guys and the bad guys. Yeah because everybody's covering covering their faces and that is that was brought up in the second episode where Laurie asked You know joke or you know how do you tell ya I can't either. Yeah yeah that was again. That's well great writing. Because he's he's they. They did establish that early on with that. And Yeah so you kind of saw how Lori was least considering that stuff in her head absolutely absolutely yes and it Kinda worked out the way now obviously when she wakes up in the Seventh Cavalry Base You know she sees that. The seventh cavalry operatives are constructing instructing a giant cage right presumably for Dr Manhattan and King comes over says. He didn't admit that expect that justice was going to be the one that killed Judd and go ahead and also did not see that hooded justice was African American. You know didn't see that coming right You know both of those But you know and he said you know he talks about he wants to be a blue essentially is like you know. It's not a good place for a white guy like you said. Yeah I wants to be a blue one so his plan. It sounds like at least. The Seventh Cavalry's stories plan is to make a whole bunch of Dr Manhattan's and he's keen. Wants to become one as well so this plan never works works. I'm GonNa you know bullying rocky on bullying goal. That never works district never works. I mean do you not think people have tried to duplicate that already. What we they said earlier in the season like episode of one they had this news report where the Russians were working on an intrinsic feel generator? Yeah so You know which is the accident that that created Doctor Manhattan. Yeah so yeah you would think everybody would be like trying to make their own doctor. German Hatton Yeah. But you know you just going to get a dead person you know. We don't know why this work the way it did well in late. True is is concerned that they might actually pull this off. Yes so he is a little bit works. Yes so apparently this I mean this for for just being is apparently you know. Just a bunch of white supremacists somewhere yeah. Apparently they're smart enough to figure this out and didn't you just love. I've I mean I. At least I did really threaten the possibility of. Yeah I love the whole idea of The the idea that you know we've got a look and see what these people are doing. Were worried about him. And and the line where I know you told me not to say it but yes I'm trying to change a save the world right you know. I know you told me not to say that but yes. That's what I'm trying to do. So we're getting the feeling that she she is. And and watchmen is never totally white hats and black cats good guy or bad I but you're getting the feeling if there is a hero she is one of them. That Lady Tru truly is trying to do the right thing or in kind of the Ozzy Mandy as kind of way especially if he's hey he's her father. Yeah views herself as the hero of the story. Right because remember the villain troop used himself as the hero this story absolutely so we and we don't know that lady trew might try a two in the process of trying to prevent the seventh cavalry from achieving their goal. Yeah that she might not want to use that to her own advantage. Chur I would not entirely trust her. I wouldn't either. Especially if she is is he made this. This is kid because hey she could be just as crazy as he is absolutely all right all right so anything else about these characters before we move onto our fourth and final final topic all right. Let's talk about cow. Okay all right so cow we kinda see early in the episode where he's concerned obviously. Yeah about Angela. He drives up to the true facility. Sees Red Scare Pirate Jenny parked outside. Yes and Asif of Angela's there and rescuers like no just go home you know. And he's like screw that he drives in any way the basically asked to see his wife. Security Guard puts out this Hologram disc on the ground and beyond speaks through this saying that they can't grant him access for his own safety while they activate the clock. Yes but if now here's the thing though if Lady true knows that cows doctor Manhattan as she kind of really implies that she does why would they be concerned about that so I don't know and does she know who does that make question make sense. Yes it does and you wonder. Does she know that it's cow. Yeah you know or does she just yeah she just suspected someone here and she doesn't know who it is because you're right. If they knew it was cow you would think they I would want him to come in right We still don't know what the Millennium Clock is going to do. I think we're going to find that out Well Hey it's a time machine or no. No no it's it's just it's just a clock I can't remember I I can't remember because At the the official watchmen podcast right. The the guy of the interviewer says 'cause we still don't know what the Millennium Clock does and Linda off says final episode. I mean she answered questions yeah and then he said which episode you'll hear them in which was it was really funny at the very end so so it's a good way of giving the answers without giving the answers exactly. Yeah it's like look it's coming. It's in this episode. But I'm not gonNa tell you what it it is right like. I think he said that like we would find what happened. what landed till the final episode I wish more people would do that in response to say yeah. They don't because they're always kind of hemming. haw about this kind of stuff and they say well. I'm not going to tell you what it is because you just he's got to wait and see. Yeah but we don't know for sure that's coming but if feels more certain if you say oh it's going to be in this episode. Yeah and I do think I think one of the things and we talked about this before I I've I've used You know Thence Vince Kellyanne Foreign breaking bad. They broke down the whole season before they started filming one episode and he said that is a luxury that very few series have but it appears. Hbo Because They are massively successful. All you can do that okay. We're going to let you because we don't have this weekly content. We have to churn out you go through are there make your show and and I wished DC would do that with titans you know that they'd say okay right your whole series come through it then go through it again Dan. Where do you need to change to make this as a tight of season as you can So I I'm loving this and you know we don't I don't know we. They have set up a lot of clues about cow including the Excalibur caliber blueprints. Yes because it is You Know Lorries X.. Yes and how able abor so so ex cow a bar. One of the things Lindelof says that was an Easter Egg. Kind to give you a hint yet. That he was documented and I think a lot of people kind of latched onto that. Yeah so it's like an x cal. APR So used to be Calabar. Yeah and that's one of the things that we talked about. Last episode is is Lynn Office saying look. There's a lot of smart people out there and we have to play fair in if you play fair. There's a good chance people going to figure out what you're trying to do right beforehand. And that's okay because I would rather than figure out what we're going to do beforehand then cheat not give them the necessary clues right and then just pull it out like Ho. They are so well yeah it also makes fans feel better that hey I was smart enough to figure this out right so they feel better about themselves watching the show. And if you didn't figure it out Kinda like the six cents. I go back to that. You know as people who figured out during the movie yeah getting an after the fact you went. Oh my God it was is all there to be seen. Yes so yes. Yeah that was a little side now so I I really pissed off my wife Lori and my friend my friend Tom Gibson because because we're Yeah we were. You know Tom and we were watching this movie for the very first time. Neither none of us in the movie. Yeah and I figured out about two two thirds of way through. The movie that Bruce Willis wasn't talking to anyone directly. Yeah or no one was talking back to him directly so I figured I was like. Oh Bruce Willis's dead and I mentioned this to Tom and You know that's the twist and I mentioned that to to my wife I I whispered over to them in the movie theater and they kind of shot me this look like oh you're right. Yeah like they knew I was right but they're just like Oh. So what did you have to tell me that. So so it kind of became a running joke after that that that about me spoiling that movie for them and it's like well it's right there. If you paid attention attention absolutely yes. Yeah so all right so Angela. Back to our discussion with cow she breaks out of the true facility. She's like okay Red Scare and pirate. Jenny tried to stop her. She's like screw. You plows right through there little blockade and she rushes home. We see the seventh cavalry is watching her house. If you I noticed that there was yes I did. So that's very disturbing She goes inside. Starts Rummaging through the cupboards pulls out a claw hammer her. Yes as cal comes into the kitchen and You know she talks about how the show always knew this day with calm. Because he doesn't remember this discussion and you know cal wonders if they talked about before the accident Angeles says there was no accident accident right which is something that was confirmed I guess in the in the PD pedia hospital report. Yeah it was a lie that they could so that they could be together. Yes and she says it's your if it's worth it it sure I it was your the idea. Yes yeah yeah and she says that cows okay. You're just confused from all the nostalgia you owed od right. But then and she calls him. John obviously a direct reference right there to John Ostrom and the real name of Doctor Manhattan. And she says he's not himself and she like CL- hits them right in the head with a hammer wack yes and she kneels over 'em carrots pounding on his forehead so breaking through his skull apparently to pull out something and she pulls out this metal doctor Manhattan symbol. Yes and interestingly enough you know 'cause it's it's essentially a a helium represents a helium atom you know the basic you know the first element and or the first. Yeah and you know. It's it's a circle with a dot in the middle ended and And interestingly there's a dot in the middle it's just kind of levitating they're right in the middle of the circle and so she pulls that out and then cow skin skin starts glowing blue as you see that bluish light reflected on Angeles Body her face her face in her hand hand bloody hand yeah. Angela tells them they're in trouble so that and that's our cliffhanger so so there's the revelation that apparently early Doctor Manhattan has been hiding out inside a cow. Yes without cow even knowing that he's Dr Manhattan presumably. Yeah what did you make of that revelation. Well it makes sense if if you know and that's I won't say it's a trope but that's been seen often where you're You you build you hide your actual persona so deep that you don't even know it's there right because they can't stay in character all the time. If if you you know have those feelings right you can't he he would he would be able to be. I guess identified or found It's a wonder why she could remember as well. Yeah because that would seem like that would be. She's known all this time presumed. Yeah so I've seen online. That people think that he may have saved her during the white night. I stand by your theory that it was judd. Yeah who attacked her and he did not want to kill her because he cared about her right and also I think knew he could manipulate her to be part of his ongoing rolling. Yeah to help feel well you figure that maybe now looking back now with the information we got from Joe Keene. Yeah is that. Maybe he realized Judd realized that Angela could be one of those heroes. Yes in masks. That joking wants to create. Yes so so we'll see. Hopefully we'll get more information about that but at very least obviously next episode. We're GONNA find out exactly the events of how Dr In Manhattan became cal. Yes about that all right anything else about this episode before moving to our favorite lines so you did not cover this topic. I just thought the trial was a little silly. Silly has amandus. Yeah because yeah. I don't think there was enough to really cover an atop. Yeah I didn't I mean The essentially prosecutors. Yeah summation summation I thought was really well done right and then D- have him. You know passed gas and then a bunch of pigs come in. I don't know if it was needed. Read for the episode. No I think it was just It's essentially this prison this this hell that that that we're Ozzy Mantius resides and so he's tormented by these. You know the the whole trial was just a way to torment. Now whether he arranged that trial himself or it was arranged for him. It's still tormented him. You know because you saw that little single tier yeah Down his face as is proclaimed guilty. And there's took a whole year. Yeah this trial took an entire year so we obviously he's been there a long long time. Yes yes and You know it was just I think it may be. The tear was just that he realizes it that He's not able to escape. Yeah I agree on his own all right so you got any final thoughts out. That's it okay. I'll say we'll talk more next week but So favorite lines. Where's your favorite lines? So I've got couple I love that When Laureus talking to you just wife right and you know she goes? I didn't think Angela heading family and Lorries we all have family We all have a family. Some of them. We just don't want to talk about right. I thought that was a pretty good line. That was a good line. Considering her bob the original soaks so expecter yes and then My only other the line and I'm looking forward to the ones you got but I did love keen going. The scales tipped way too far in a extremely difficult to be a white man in America. Right now some. I'm thinking I might try being a blue one. Yeah Unfortunately forget the. I'm thinking of my tribe Lewin in current society side. There's a lot of people that believe that percents. Yes is which is very which is very unsettling is a horribly racist statement. Because because you're basically saying oh well white people aren't getting their do anymore. You know that you know. Especially when when they get topics epochs of diversity or yes especially like I know I see this a lot in On in forums and discussions on facebook and whatnot. Where they're talking like if there's some casting news and it's not like a a why especially fit so it's a non white actor? Playing a white character later traditionally character and so they're just like oh it's the white man being replaced which is just horribly racist. Yes and Obviously no for generations white people right occasions played people of other ethnics. Yeah so so what that passed to like past hundred years of filmmaking didn't happen yeah exactly that White people didn't get their shot. I don't get that I don't get it either. I'm saying as a White Guy I don't get me too. Yeah all right. So what do you got for us. Yeah Lori. It's you know talking with Jane. I thought she had a very profound statement. She says Very unsettling statement. But it's very observant she goes. I mean this is a Guy Guy who inspired two generations of heroes my folks and myself included but he had hide who he was because white men in masks masks are our heroes but black men in masks are scary. Yeah that's how society views them. You know one one of the other things I really liked is because we go to PD PD out. And I hope everyone does We knew that Everyone now knew that hood adjusted. This was You know The her grandfather other and all this but I loved her showing the tape. So that if you had not gone to PD still could have seen. Oh okay okay. That's how they all know this because she's been able to you know when she talked she was she was under the nostalgia all she was talking nonstop. And that's how they were able to get that so yeah. Jane had a good quote. You know when she's talks about is finally admits is to what's going on she goes. I'm sorry was not supposed to confess yet. You've just been going on and on and on yes. I thought that was a good quote. Angela in lady true Where Angeles says in your life's work is Turkey turning on your big crazy gizmos? Most of that you can save humanity lady true response you make it sound ridiculous when you say it like that. Yes Yeah I love that kind of erect that Angela. Angela just dismissed her big project. Absolutely Laurie Statement which you hinted at earlier talked about earlier. where she's talking with Joe Keene and she goes? I'm tired Joe. I'm tired of all the silliness. You want me to ask you why I'm strapped to a chair in an abandoned abandoned. JC Penney or what that cages for fine. Just know that I know given so yeah. It's great I love that line and Angeles final line at the end of the episode. Hey baby we're an effing trouble yes so I'm really looking forward to Seeing because We have established that John Does can change his affections. Yes he originally was he had that first girlfriend and you know the one who later Janet. Yeah then he moved to Laurie. And now than it appears Angela right so I think that's it's it's I'm really looking forward to seeing this reveal and in how much are they going to show Dr Manhattan Canton Right. You know we just. I look forward to seeing. I WanNa see lorries reaction yes. He's a fact that Angela's Mary Deduct Manhattan. Yes Abbott Lew Rural Boyfriend. Yes so that should be. Maybe explain why they've been kind of briskly with each other from absolutely yes all right What's your rating for this one You know I'm GONNA give it nine out of ten sleeping elephants. My only criticism criticism is the trial part. And that's very very little. Yeah yeah that's that's it. Yeah I'm I'm giving this one a little bit of a downgrade Not Much I though I give it eight and a half out of ten doctor Manhattan puppets. Nice I like Batman Marionettes. Whatever you WANNA call him so yeah Yeah 'cause obviously that was a pretty Im- important especially if you're a fan of the comic book series and like that. I mentioned earlier fan zone. News really quickly Apparently at Brazil's Expo CC XP Kevin the President Marvel Studios revealed that Moon Knight Miss Marvel Marvel and she hulk will all be ready for the Disney plus digital service towards the end of next year. So we're getting them a little sooner than expected Nice so another good reason to get that Disney plus subscription at least At least towards next year so I'm really looking forward to midnight and she hulk I'm big fantasies of those characters so all right We don't have a fan mail again. I do have one piece of Fan Mail. ooh Tell us so. Oh friend of the show. Ken Schaffer Right and I go to lunch every week and Kim Does everything by by shifting. Like he doesn't watch anything live he waits till the DVD list of vengeance. Everything and I told him I know. I'm I'm saying you should break your rule. You should watch watchmen. This is really good. Did he do it so he said yes and he sent the email. I didn't think I could hate a world more than I hate. Gilhead in hints it Gilead Handmaidens Tail. But I think I may hate the watchman world more at least I hate Tulsa just as much okay so I will find out more with him. But his initial rod is boy. Tulsa is a bad place to live. So I'm looking forward to hearing what he had to say. Matching this show is doing wonders for Tulsa Tourism Tourism Industry exactly. Yeah so Great Well if people want to give us feedback how could they Yeah have you write to us at Phantom zone cast at gmail.com. That's phantom zone cast at gmail.com. We'd love to hear from you is dying to know. Your thoughts on watchmen or The upcoming crisis on infinite earths event coming up on the CW that we're also going to be talking about and So please write and tell us what you think and Or just what you're if you're enjoying the show. Just let us know that you know what your thoughts are. 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Talk where Charles and I are going to be joined by special guest deejay Nick we're going to cover Review the second since full season of titans the DC universe direct Where we kind of talk about a up and down season but it'll it'll be fun talking about it and I do think if you You should check out the titans on DC you it is. It is certainly worth watching. And then I am also doing. Continue to do settling Bruce Springsteen podcast and where I talked to Bruce Springsteen fans around the world and my T. Keith R. A. D. Cardio interview comes out this week as we're recording ignace and he talks a little bit about his writing and some of his star Trek work. So that'll be a lot of fun. Okay in Charles you looking forward to it so As for for me at Charles skaggs on twitter at Shell skaggs on Instagram facebook. Charles skaggs in Hilliard Ohio and my blog Iquique. Things things come on you damn good coffee and hot. 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That sounds great all right so next time on the Phantom zone the penultimate episode of watchman Richman or at least. Why'd you love saying tonight? Low Saint penultimate favorites and also Or you know season one or series. We'll find out Yes so the title is a God walks into a bar or if you WANNA look at that title a little differently God walks into a bar as a is there a god walks into Calabar. I like what you did there. I'd have to believe that is on purpose purpose right so presumably. Now that we know have an idea of what's coming up that This will be the story of how Dr Manhattan Gotten side. Cal Alabama's body yeah. So and that's watchmen episode eight. Now the question is whether that's GonNa come before or after our upcoming in crisis on infinite earths parts one two and three discussion where we discussing in the first three chapters of the big. CW CRISIS ERA verse crisis. Crossover or events Part one tonight as we're recording this where we're gonNA talk about. 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Dart Against Humanity Ep. 79: The New Not Normal

Dart Against Humanity

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Dart Against Humanity Ep. 79: The New Not Normal

"Dr Adams and you're listening to Dr Against Humanity on anchor if you're not aware anchor is a podcast distributor and you can actually use a creation tools right on this APP and you can record editor podcast. Cash right from your phone hand held device and your computer meaning desktop laptop. Not only that. But actually distribute your podcast for you so it can be spotify apple Google and up to thirteen different distributors. And also what you could do is you can earn money from your podcast with minimum listenership. That means anchor will take your podcast. Click one button and they will search for sponsors for you and they will come back and they will give you an option of recording and like the one. I'm doing right now. So if you're interested in this what you should do is you should go. Download the Free Anchor. App OR GO TO ANCHOR DOT FM backslash. And just get started. I'm Dr Adams and I am an anchor. Podcast one would up Dr Atoms and this episode. Seventy eight DART against humanity. So I believe today is day seventy of quarantine for me One of the things I did recently. Is that when you're in your home straight and you can't leave the house and you've been there for over two months you start looking around at your apartment and realizing that there are things in this apartment. I need to fix and change and clean because I can't leave the house. I can't go out to events I can't go out to concerts. Can't go to shows. Can't go to meetings so I don't have that excuse that I usually have. Why certain things in my apartment can stay the way they do? Because I'm never really year long enough or I'm here writing and working. I get projects done now and then I have downtime. And I'm like okay. I can only watch everything on net flicks. I can only watch so much stuff on who can only find stuff online to watch. Because I don't sleep so I can only read so many books induce or find research to do for stuff. I'm not gonNA write for another two three months realizing that I did research for six months ago so I start looking around in my surroundings like you could fix them. Stuff changed him stuff. Get something new. Because it's not like. I'm spending money on other things because I'm not going out not traveling. I'm not doing this stuff so I just. I don't have the expenses of the people have. I don't have been mortgage. I don't have kids. I don't have a car I don't have to. I have to do upkeep on certain things I live a pretty within the means life because I lived in poverty for a long time as a writer before figured out that there's no way I could survive on just writer money. I need to figure out other things to do than why. Start figuring that out and I lived the way I live. I'm like Yom okay. Other people would die making the money I make you know because again. They have so much overhead. I paid off my student loans before I turned thirty. You know I have zero debt so I live a lifestyle that you know people in their forties. Don't that being said I'm looking around and I'm like you know what again I live on a budget. I love pretty frugally. In unlike y'all I haven't had a new. Tv In ten years the TV. I had bought in. May Two thousand and ten and has been in my apartment. I was like Yo. Let me get a new TV. I'm not going to spend a shit shitload of money on a new TV. So what I do is I do what everybody else does. I'm on to it. All the time see fat kid deals. That kid deals as a fifty inch. Tv for a damn good price. I'm like I can make that writing one piece for somebody like I got that so I ordered the TV and of course with everybody being quarantined and sheltering place. What happens is you order. Something from a spot you get told when it's coming and it comes to three days later like you're waiting for it. I was waiting for it on Monday. And they're like Nah fucking with this coming day. Nah Dog like maybe Wednesday so I go to the site directly in their life fan coming on Thursday but they say Thursday by nine pm so I'm checking the update to see where it is is a here. It's an Indianapolis is still in. Indianapolis is still in Indianapolis and updates says send Massachusetts what town in Massachusetts ours is closer in Massachusetts. It's closer Massachusetts as on the truck is being delivered. There will be there by nine pm so I don't want to not be here when it comes because everybody's home so d delivery protocol is very different. And everybody's trying to keep social distance sold. The delivery people dropped something often in run. Because they don't WanNa see you or they'll buzz and run back in the days when they did that you'd be like a the fuck now we get it. Nobody wants to catch the see nineteen so and of course. I finally have masks. Real official mass I was wearing is wearing something. Made me look like dark. Man For the first seventy won't today's Day seventy for the first sixty sixty six sixty seven days I was running around looking like darkman would a bandage but anyway now I have actual mess that I go out in public. It'd be all right with the Times that being said I'm waiting waiting waiting looking for updates on where the TV is. I go shopping. I'm on the phone in the grocery store trying to hurry this up because I'm looking. How close is it? How close close it? The last thing it says is a town that's far away but it's delivering and it's coming before nine and I'm like all right quad plenty of time so then. I look and it has a distance meter on the ups thing. And I'm like it's getting closer but the last time I had something delivered. They tell you when they're in the neighborhood three stops away. I start ten stops away. Nine stops away seven steps away five stops away so they're pretty much on the street and it is going up and down the street. It was like your the next stop. Destiny happened this time. I'm looking at the UPS joint. And it's like I'm home. I'm in I'm like all right so it was looking closely and might be in by noon so I get busy. I started to Ranting about something on twitter and it's eleven thirty and I was like all right. Let me check the see where it is I check. It was like delivered ten fifty three A. M. I might wait. What so you telling me that my TV was dropped in the lobby. Thirty minutes ago and nobody buzzed. My God damn door and I live on the first floor and I can hear the ups. Man Come in. I see I soul the truck outside. Bhagat get outside. I take three steps and there it is my TV so bring it inside now. I'm just like our I find them. He said Stevie up But those y'all don't know much about me I am not electrically or mechanically inclined in any way shape or form and these new. Tv's are Kinda Sometimes there's a there's a big setup and you need to know the. Us be the HDMI. What goals where what to do? This shit is pretty much straightforward to avoid surprising embarrassment. I watched every single youtube video on boxing for this television called my brother of ask them what specs were what what that meant. Because he's the guy that handles all this stuff my brother and I are like Yin and Yang My mother's hands. You know you have designs on your palm. My right hand is the same as her right hand. His left hand is the same design as her left hand. So there's always this weird dynamic where what I didn't do he did. And he's three years younger than me. So when we were kids we withdraw. We would comic books together. He would draw the comic book. I would write it and I would do the lettering and we come up with concepts together when we did production we were part of a production team. I'd find beats samples or audio pieces and he would like flip chop it or whatever When I used to rhyme he would produce me and he would like tell me coach me on what stuff worked. What didn't bars and everything else. He's younger than me. It was very much. Our relationship is very much like if you know anything about Doom and Sub Rock. We have a very doom and sub rock relationship. Where what where? We are like halves of a whole that being said anything technical or electronic is him. I wasn't a producer producer because when I got around beat machines and equipment and and plugs and all this other Shit. I was like what is this. I see a mess of wires and my brain just shuts off him. He gets it. You figure that out you can put any beat machine or any any kind of electronic anything that makes music in front of him and he will figure it out with no need to really look at the instruction booklet because he'll tell you like the instruction booklet was made for people to to make music on it that the person who made this machine didn't intend for us to do with it like Roger. Linn did not make the Linn Drum or any of those machines for hip hop because he didn't know that it existed. Or how would be utilized. So why read the instruction booklet when we're just gonNA figure out ways around it to get it to do what we wanted to do anyway? So that's where my brother's expertise lies. I say that to say I set up my TV. And everything else unplugged it all in and got it all set up and diy fi in the connections and HDMI and eight hundred eighty in the four K. And Yada Yada. I had to do all that shit myself whereas usually I have him for that. He's my guy. I'm somebody always has like a new laptop new this new that but it has so many extra functions. I never use them. I get a new iphone. I don't use any of the extra functions. I'm the guy who never used an Emoji in his entire life. I'm never going to use the an Emoji. Whatever the fuck is called never gonNA use it. I use words so I'm in. I'm a sixty four year old man with new tech. That's pretty much why I'm so I just set up. My New Jersey is sitting in my lobby. I'm my lobbyists sitting in my living room right now. And here's what's crazy right. We're still in a spot where there's no sports so. Espn just ran. The on the last dance ten part series. They had to do an extra part. You know 'cause you know now they have something to talk about said it talking about. Oh Shit talking about Michael Jordan and his role in history and people responding to it. They need to something to talk about the NBA. Might be coming back. And when they come back and states reopening but they're reopening soon because we're getting early reports from places that open too soon and how so many people got infected and and trump idiot. What else in new? But I'm saying this to say the one of the running things is because of Michael Jordan. Everybody's being asked what their top five is. This drives me insane and this has nothing to do with the fact that they ex Paul Pierce his top five is and he didn't have the Braun and people. Can you not have the Braun? First of all the problem with asking anybody with their top five is and anything is its narrow casting the Fang art culture history. What have you whatever you're discussing? Top-five worked back in the days rap. Is We know it started in one thousand nine seventy seven I wet records came out in nineteen seventy nine so in one thousand nine eight if you ask somebody your your top five. That question makes sense. 'cause you could be like Rock Him Big Daddy Kane or Coochie rap Ice Cube and one eye minds is run from run. Dmc I gotta go would rock him. Yeah I gotta go. Mc Rain Mc ran for real. Yeah Mc Ren an ice cube all right. So who who? Who's your number five you know and they'd be like minded the fives like. Teela rock like for real. Did you hear the rocks last album so at that time a top five made sense now with forty three years removed from the beginning of rap as we know it as as as an art form where more than forty years removed from the first rap records. And you're going to ask somebody who remembers all of it. What their top five is top. Five's worked people that have short memories or very little understanding of something for the most part because the more you remember the more you know the more you realize as Aras there's different slots does different places you could. You could stick people in. There's different you know. Sub Sub sub categories. Like fucking. Read it and you realize that top five past a certain time is just nothing but narrowcasting and it's putting yourself in a bad predicament. It's a fool's errand so when you ask somebody about the NBA and their top five. You can't be. Do you mean of all time because what you gotta realize the NBA star says the be a? We're going from nineteen forty six nine hundred forty seven to twenty twenty then you gotta realize that the ABA existed debut ran nine seasons from nineteen sixty seven and nineteen seventy six and these and those people came into the NBA right. So we're dealing with eighty four eighty five years of professional basketball and you're being asked from your knowledge well to pick five people now if you have a short memory are short understanding. A top. Five isn't hard. If you're fucking twenty five years old nationalist. Your top five be like Kobe. Lebron Jordan you good if you ask a forty four year old person who played with an Aba basketball you know who remembers seventy seven seventy eight? The first season they washed basketball in order members. Marvin the Human Racer Webster Dan Round Field Jo Jo White John Havlicek. Dave Cowan's remembers when the three point line was introduced to the NBA. And you ask him. What's your top five. I'm going to stare at you like you have three heads. Top Five for cover. Eighty Four Seasons of professional basketball. If you don't get the entire fuck out of my face I did a piece about The of the top five and why? It doesn't work anymore past like nineteen ninety-seven and I did it for a magazine called stashed the stashed which was owned by Translation which is was owned by Steve Stoute and I did this. Article and that shit got wiped from the Internet was supposed to be included on one of my in the book. Dart got white from the Internet. I've recovered it. I found it is going to be in the book dark to again. I've mentioned I don't know when the book Dart was coming. I hope that it would it all materialize in by full twenty twenty one That's why I'm writing the other book now so again. Now that we're down in a lot of things have been put on hold. I had a podcast series that I was selling me and a friend were selling to accompany and that was a bogus started in. May but that company has seen a lot of layoffs and quite frankly. I don't even know if the person I had to sell it. I had my point person to sell. It is even still there. I got a follow up on that Is this May twenty second? I need to follow up on that. Because maybe they're gonNA broach again in June. I haven't talked to anybody. Saw that is is is is just as But I've been lucky to still get work and do different types of jobs and consulting and in fact checking and get other work in media but not necessarily in writing because again A lot of budgets especially for freelancers has dried up and the work. I used to get where they knew me. And they had my You know they had my account information and I ca- write a piece and they'd be like I send us to Send us to invoice sent him to invoice and that Friday at midnight. That money is in my account. That shit dead. The last couple of pieces I did. I got that money. That shit what used to be a net seven job or sometimes I do the job and I get paid for it before it even ran because they knew me like that and I always gave him a hell of us that she turned net. Thirty on me and I'm like you're what you're lucky. I did four jobs in between that time. That didn't involve writing because otherwise I'd be chasing you for money and I never WANNA do that again. And the thing is that under this pandemic where things of slowed down. A lot of people are taking pay cuts. They're working less working fewer days but the thing is that a lot of them are in situations where those bills are still the same every month. Those expenses still the same every month. My expenses are the same every month. My expenses. A fucking Lolo. So I'm in a different boat and I'm extremely lucky and privileged in a sense that I can. Actually you know. Be Okay when a lot of people were doing bad or just hanging on and hoping for some sort of relief for some odd reason as things slow down and we're in crisis mode it's funneled a lot of things where people got to come to me for something whereas they could bypass me before Dick Overlook me before all the sudden a Oh Number from your got your information from. I'm getting DMZ. Because you could idea mu because you follow me back and now I'm getting work. So it's the gift and a curse is this weird fucking thing but On the other side would have been doing lately. Is I've been doing like always. I've been doing a lot of research but I've been doing specific research on this one. Fang because it has been killing me first of all this one thing that I've been doing research on branched out from something else and I'm going to explain the whole story now is those of you know Maybe two thousand eighteen. I was part of a W W K CR on podcasts. Lost notes and they didn't episode cold are New additions. Neighborhoods secret that was about new editions my secret and how they got embroiled in one of the biggest basketball rivalries as Boston kids and did a video with the La Lakers kids from Roxbury. And it caused the shoes ruckus and Boston. Because what kids from Roxbury who celtics fans doing in a gut? Damn of video with the Lakers. At the height of the Celtics Lakers rivalry and to make matters worse. It's the year the Celtics. Lose to the Lakers. And what happens is new edition. Pops up in the video with the Lakers. I had to figure out exactly the exact timeline because they never fleshed it out and also driving me fucking insane saying because I knew the everything came to a head during the finals so anyway I'm trying. I was trying to figure all that out. I did figure it out but in the midst of figuring it out I unlocked another thing. That was blowing my mind now. What a lot of you don't know. Is that early rap records. Of course they came out. Some came out eighty four and in more eighty five. But what you don't know is how hard it is to try to figure out the release date for wrap records in one thousand nine hundred eighty five. There isn't a lot of documentation does not like this full page ads telling you the release day so you have to do the an insane amount of sleuthing you have to go find. Old Radio shows to figure out when songs were played. You have to figure out when singles were released you have to try to possibly find on old charts there. Old Magazine called the hit list that Paradise Claude Paradise Gray later of x clan but the owner of the Latin quarter to us to run that in quarter used to have and it's like the earliest thing the earliest of piece of like sustained rat publication journalism like eighty five eighty four eighty five like soul. They haven't been digitized. But I use some of these things to figure out when certain records came out and one of the things I do. Is I look at our in our in our look at home billboard then I tried to look at other magazines. The problem is a lot of other magazines. Don't cover rap albums until months after they come out so I had the hardest time and one of the things I stumbled on was new addition was doing shows with UT AFO. Because you're tearful with super hot they will coming off. Roxanne Roxanne but they also were incredible live performers and they were backed by on full force so they ended up doing shows that most people are like Yo. How did they get the show? And while doing research on the my secret thing I uncovered this I covered this review of the holy notes performance. I'm going to do I have it here. Oh here it is all right. So it's in the talent and action section talent section of billboard. It's the June Fifteenth Nineteen Five Billboard. I'm going to read it to you. Talent an Action Daryl Hall and John Oates. Ut F. o. The Apollo New York tickets torn to fifty dollars under fifty dollars a hundred dollars and on paper. The idea of Blue Eyed Soul Boys Daryl Hall and John oates performing a benefit for the United Negro College Fund to Historic Apollo Theater seemed impressively progressive with a chance for the super successful duo to return something to the source of musical roots to charitable and historic elements. You t.f foes woody performance and a surprise. Encore made the May twenty third event. Something one felt privileged to witness however the impact of the show was undercut by the fact that the to some appeared a bit too shaken to taken by their own image holes. God's gift to women poses grew tiresome after Song. Three while holes approach works better in his intimate setting than medal arena were hauling. Those performed recently has flipping antics were oddly unsolvable has self heralded. Vocals fell prey to a troubled soundsystem. Had Him straining at times? Otherwise in those performance was enjoyable with Catalog Sarah. Smile and she's gone generating a wave of size and screens throughout the crowd. A surprise contender in the hour long set was John. Oates WHO's lead vocal on the latest? Single possession obsession revealed a much better set of pipes in one might suspect from the duo's recordings as the opening act. Utsa FO- instigators of the Roxanne. Roxanne craze made the most of an opportunity there authority wrapping and break dancing well well suited to their polls goals developing new talent and made for an entertaining. If unfortunately brief performance the shows highlight was an appearance by former temptations Eddie Kendricks and David Ruffin who joined hall and Oates for Traditional Quartet lineup and ran to a medley temptation classics including get ready. My girl and ain't too proud to big ending things on a riveting note done Samba holes. Every time you go away currently a hit for Paul young written by Kim Freeman so I saw that. And I'm like your weight you T.F. Oaf Open for Daryl Hall and John Oates and I'm pretty sure that show got recorded and ended up on VHS or sold somewhere so. I haven't done net leg of research yet but it made me wonder when the fuck did you tearful first album. Come out so I start doing investigation trying to figure it out and Pan things down now. This is where things get really annoying because when you look at their. A discography rap was single based until probably nineteen eighty six. And then that's when Moore records came out in an eighty seven eighty eight. The floodgates opened. So I'm trying to go to UT UCF phone catalog at a time to sign to select records when it's twelve inch after twelve inch after twelve inch after twelve inch and the album was an afterthought there were very few rap albums out in eighty five. There's like the boogie boys. You know. There's Houdini then you have Kurtis blow the fat boys. Then you have Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde a run DMC. There's not a Lotta rap albums you know so when you tear foes album comes out if you're looking for it it's going to stand out like a sore thumb on the top black music charts which stops at seventy five. So I find the date that it enters the charts and I'm like okay so after figure out round one was released now. This is when she gets weird now. Well recent times now albums come out on Fridays before that albums. Used to come out on Tuesdays and with some labels. Release THEM ON. Fridays like Def Jam Columbia diesel-electric Release Albums Fridays. They released on early some early run DMC albums. Fridays at least a couple Ella J. albums on Fridays they released Ah Believe George Michael on a Friday I think they also believe Released on terror restrict Trent Darby on a Friday. So there was President President But in the early eighties it was the wild wild west if you go to a billboard or cashbox or any other magazine Publications Museum publication if you go to the top of the Muffin Michigan. And the previous podcast and you'll look for the release dates of albums. They don't go by week. It's not the for the eleventh to Eighteenth Twenty fifth. It's not the tenth to seventeenth of two thousand four hundred thirty first. You get it. I'm talking about weeks. The Shit says one two three four six seven nine ten twelve fourteen fifteen seventeen eighteen twenty one twenty three twenty four and I'm like how the fuck this industry operate like this now. Is You know that I do research not just music when I try to research video games. I'm run up into the same problem because in the early eighties to mid eighties. It was a free for all matter of fact you couldn't even find a release date you knew the month was coming out and you would have to call the store or go to the store until they finally showed up. Imagine I'm fucking headache is coming out. May when in May I don't know you just got a call up the fuck store and order to store shop to the store and hope is there and hope you get there and hope somebody holds you a copy and you get to know the you get to know the employees and owner. Maybe put down a deposit. Make sure you get that game because you don't know how many coming in and at the time it's not like they were a million different Places you could buy games. There were usually specialty shops computer shops things like that. I remember this because again. I'm a child of the eighties and I own comrades before. My Dad was a computer programmer. I remember wealth. What a fucking hassle it was. I used to get magazines compute. Gazette and they would not have release dates. Would either say coming soon. Tell you the month or in stores. Now that's all you got so when I do. Research in eighty four eighty five eighty six for like games. It's a fucking disaster and the biggest reason why disasters because I don't know if I mentioned this before in the previous episode against humanity but the video was a video game chart the used to be and billboard they. There was a thing called the video game crash to happen in Nineteen Four. They abandoned the video game chart around February between February and March. Nineteen five so they don't track video game sales. They don't track computer game sales. It doesn't have its own pages on section anymore doesn't have a beat anymore now. Why is this insane because an October? Nineteen eighty five. The NINTENDO was released the Nintendo entertainment systems released. And if there was a time we needed a mother fucking video games chart it would be to track the releases of and sales of fucking Nintendo Games. Do you are you aware how much that would come in handy to go to billboard and look and see nine hundred ninety seven. When lit legend his elder first came out. How many units is sold? Did it go gold as had the little dot next door? It doesn't have an asterix next to it. Is it an Italics? Is there diamond next to it? Like there are from a rentals. Are these discs were for CD? Cd's used to have their own separate chart because they were considered luxury items now. Moreover it is a pain in the ass because if I want to do research about Know How many cabinets did street fighter sell in nineteen eighty seven? I have no way to figure that out. If I fucking Google that I get nothing no response. Because there's no source however I know for a fact that there was. There was a clean up arcade industry. And if there's a coin up industry the debt means that they had a coin op. Arcade magazine a publication. The people who ran arcades used and listened to and they communicate with each other. Who has these fucking magazines? Who has these issues? Where are they? Who's archived them? Someone had to. It's impossible for it not to and another reason why this is. A crucial is because if we're looking at video gaming in the Lens of Nineteen Eighty five to nineteen ninety and why this is such a big deal. Why I'm fucking racking my brain. This is not a lie. I promise you you look this up this fact and this is something. I read then memorized and I've gone back enough search. Yes is still true and with my memory. Do you really WanNa try to test me by nineteen ninety or in one thousand nine hundred. Ninety Nintendo became the biggest and most successful cooperation in Japan surpassing Toyota Nintendo the video game company COM Nintendo Super famicom Super Nintendo murdering the game. And we're entering the fourth generation of gaming if you don't know previous episode I believe it's Nintendo versus the fourth generation. Incredible episode of Dart Against Humanity. Sometimes go back in this to it was like Goddamn on fire on that one I really want to understanding. This is the last season as fuck is man So another thing right is I see. They're releasing the turbo graphic sixteen. Many now I loved the Turbo Gravity Sixteen. I was introduced to the sixteen by my younger brothers. Frank Chi also my friend but he owned one and at the time the console wars just heating up the console wars will like crips and bloods Nobody was really rich enough to own multiple consoles. So you major choice. You made your bed. You lied in and you fucking Bang for your set you put in work. I remember cats would and I mentioned the previous episode. I love saying that cats would be in the lunchroom to be fucking arcade. They'd be out at the court and they would be going back and forth arguing about fucking specs in games for gaming systems which is some nerdy shit but when it's a bunch of Brown kids doing it they manage to make the most Gangsta Shit in the world champs. Fuck Nintendo I got genesis. May Genesis got this got this you see the graphics on joint did. Y'All y'all man man man Man Guy Double Dragon. You call the play player. You gotta play versus mode and that's time graphics. Any good fucking spikes jumping off the screen. I mean Damn even say Masson got to player fucking on Double Double Dragon and you know the sigma. Some used to always get thrown under the bus always get thrown under the bus. There was one kid in my neighborhood with the SEGA master system. His name was Chris. Chris lived two streets over from me. I will go over his house a like a so. You won't play a game that what you got. I got just got Rustan when you got resting Sakir. Select an arcade like Arcade Board as fuck plan. Rest in I got zillion to try formation on like Oh word I remember the anime. I played a game like this. You don't capture my attention. Don't you pull out Alice kid? Bullshit were some good games for the sake system. The problem as it was the Sega master system and Intendo has some trash as games but Nintendo could get by with playability and and other things. You know the graphics can be trash but the game was a playable and then there were times when you know the second masochism has some games that was you know Nice. But it's to say mess system. I got twenty games for Nintendo. People WANNA play. You Got Three big bank take. Little Bank so yeah day seventy in quarantine found the got a new TV but his thing my TV is so big that. I'm looking at the T. V. I'm looking at my old stand like a new stand. I'm looking at my old Stan and when I changed out my old TV moved it to my liberal moved into my room and put the new TV here. And I look at the Stan. I'm like to stand his oldest. Fuck I've been in this apartment. Twenty twenty one years this Spring Spring now so twenty one years have been in this apartment and I'm like how long have I this fucking stand the TV stand. Steve stands been here for like three. Tv's I need a new stadium so as soon as I get the new TV. Put on all stand. I fucking go buy a new stand so that shit supposed to come by the twenty seventh. It probably won't get to the twenty ninth and thirtieth and my game just for wines so by the time. I do this next episode. I'm going to have my new TV on the newsstand and more than likely to go on. Tell me MAFA GONNA come at a certain time. I me waiting for it. I'm waiting for it. I'm going to be looking around for it. I'm going to look at updates just to find out demo the fucking lobby so yeah man. I don't know if this was enjoyable for you but I've been busy. I've been doing stuff I've been trying to live life in this what we call the new normal. That ain't normal at all. So Oh yeah. I did a podcast. Recently are the pride of Boston for the breaking atoms. On podcast I did that one. I have another podcast that I did. Recently Believe some rap rankings. That one should be out soon. And I'm about to do to more podcast appearances one with my one of my boys from Going way back Mommy from Detroit And then there's another one. I'm doing what I do G Valentino Ball of conversations with g should be happening I'm all over the place man. I'm I'm everywhere man. So thanks for hanging out with me for this forty five minutes one.

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The Nooner Show  Episode 179

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The Nooner Show Episode 179

"You're listening to the PODCAST DETROIT visit. WWW DOT odd tested troy dot com before information They welcome to the neuner show with Jay Dobson Rocky Broadcasting unlocked from the podcast studios in in Michigan Fisher to find us at podcast. Detroit take a mirror. I sooner or hoping what's that noise the live going lower. Thank me turn this off the lovely Tong that was it was it was you all right here just turned the deal. You don't need your you may find. Okay go ahead anyway. Oh no back welcome. Everyone welcome. Welcome welcome week. We had No one before we had the mayor. So I'm going to mirror. I tell them real quick. Yeah we nor and I work the polls yesterday I did. Yeah we we. We really funny though. Because I was not making eye contact with anyone because I was scared. They were GonNa ask me something about politics. Oh my got it. There's there's there's an elephant somewhere and I don't know what the other one so these two guys were walking towards US awesome. Okay what's going on. So they they come up and they said we were told to stand here and they hit a stack of flyers God. The opponent fly air so I looked at him and I said Oh. We're giving out candy bars with our flag. And he looked at me he goes. We're giving out fifty dollar bills with right. You're like you win. Yeah Yeah Yeah and they were out there for a good thirty minutes and they were hands because it was so Cli- without their for yeah you are author our loyalty yeah. I really really wanted her to win. She lost by three three hundred votes. Isn't there like a rule though if it's like close they have to do a recount. It's not a rule you can call for okay but you can call for the recount with. It doesn't mean it. Yeah it'll change. Yeah but you know it's such a bomber. Felt like she needed the other. Yeah for years to. She originally started. She started she. She she did so much marty in such a short name. I just think that this means that there's greater things ahead. Yeah there's not the outcome any but anyone expected there's a reason I mean I mean when it happened you know I'm sitting there and Jackie Texas back the fourth all night and she was like you hear anything you know we're going back and forth and it was like when I finally Jackie. Jackie be positive so so then when I finally we saw it going that way like I know just what you said genus. She's going to be great fi because she is a great person. Yeah so you know. Intentions are pure. And sometimes there's gotta be an obstacle so that you exact over it go through it go blonde to reach to greater right what she said a greater pushes you in different ways right exactly. Yeah so yeah so anyway. Yeah all right right on words we have my best boy. John John My mom's here Lisa Perfect Oh God every way and just what rocky moves are you kidding me. I was like we're having lunch in ORC and I can't even be mad because he's all of our favorites is much more annoyed by him all the time. Well Libya Bert. He's secretly as all of our favorites. We've accepted he's the baby. Do what you. Yeah and Ri- right way EH. Chelsea their Chumpol the center of gravity. I go because I had to work so I'm going to have to go by myself. I'll go now we're going. We're going every single week. Oh my gosh. It was amazing. Yeah we honor to be part of the family viewing cry did you cry. I did I you know what I cried because I'm so proud right. That's what I'm saying. It was amazing. I'm sure like the little kids little kids over Oreo. I'm saying why are those grownups. Sad what was your Pri- Pri- Dan her name. Her voice into no hard. She's worked Brian and posted a video of when I saw it in. New York. Chumpol videotaped my reaction you know and I cried immediately. I kind of thought maybe I wouldn't cry. And maybe I would do something. Cool like get up and sing or something in the first came knows also just was overwhelmed with the whole time. The this industry one thing I've learned being in it for so long as things change like that. You know what I mean. So it's like I learned not to get emotionally attached to anything because you know it's like and it's not anything it's like it's just the way the businesses you know what I mean things change on a dime of the hat it. Just you gotta be able to roll with the punches or you're not going to survive you know so it's like what you do do that very well. I've gotten used to just like okay like some exciting news but it might not happen or whatever and I just know how this business is so you know the whole time I was thinking thinking. Okay you know what if it doesn't play or whatever they are minds at the last second and like the way the movie was. I thought maybe you know Jeremy Runner was in charge of all the music for that one of his zero. Can you know so I didn't I really just until I saw for myself. engrossing I was like. There's a chance that it might not happen so you know and it. That's good I went. I went and saw with my attorney. So He's GonNa get an honest. They want free popcorn. Yeah no so it was. It was great though and just being able to see it with him in. Nancy was really really special. I just I wish I would have been there would have been like Frankie. He's not going to drag you know so I love to see his To Send Him. I told everybody tells like do. Not Send him the song when it comes time because I want him to see it and hear it like I don't WanNa be spoiler right. I want him to see it for the first time in a theater with his name on the screen. I think you have to experience that because that's fine. Wow Yeah towns and then. I think that's something that that you have to experience so much more authentic right employees who are confused as to why you're crying Eh. dolts in this kid's movie altogether bawling her. I during what everybody else has left the theatre. There's thirty people still standing there or sitting in watching. You know what I do. Think we've got our guest cast on the show that the boss got saucer. The head Honcho is rocky. Says my attorney. I wish we can all say you. Tommy was my attorney. Attorney can be. I can be can't afford. Do you take welfare. Stand understand what your payment candidates like a pro bono. Its economy attic out. Hi Mr Valentino. Tommy Listen I WANNA introduce use everybody. 'cause I know it's going to sound like chaos in here but so we have rocky Chumpol today. A in the house. Oh my yeah to make sure he doesn't miss anything that rocky doesn't get any more information than no more Brownie ninety point with that. We have our wonderful Tech Jessica. WHO's here are one of our host? Nora is hi. Hi Hi how are you. It's good to have you on thank you. I've never been better. And then and then we have our other Italian hosts yes former schoolteachers still a schoolteacher stella retired Jeanette Cudicini's in the house. Oh my man and tell you doing Italia right on my head. It's young. I love it all right. Well we are so excited. You're here we're going to go ahead and start with our typical format. We just got through the banter. We're we're GONNA talk Start with our Intros and all that and then And then going to the interviews so just we ready GONNA win. Yeah you're listening to the new show. We appreciate your support. We hope you get inspired to take a leap of faith. Don't forget to subscribe to the neuner show. Wherever you listen to podcasts? You can like us on facebook and follow us on instagram. At the ner show our show today is sponsored by the Parlor and Highly Michigan. A music theme pizzeria where pizza rocks also check out. Happy Days Records more new music store and clothing store Located at eighteen. O One West genesee street in Lapierre Michigan and from the makers of dope water. If you can be anything why not be dope. Why not why not? Why not? Why not this segment is designed to showcase the stories of talented individuals who had a wish and found a way to make it happen? They said goals overcame obstacles and turned setbacks into comebacks their stories are unique and most of all inspiring. When you think of your favorite song the first thing you think about is the artist sometimes you think about the writers but you never think about the attorney? The truth is that behind every great masterpiece. There's a forthright soldier protecting the creator. A great entertainment journey as an individual who offers a blend of creative and technical skills as the resources that guide artists to the path of success. Our guest today is one of those great entertainment attorneys. Mr Tommy Valentino. He is a respected and influential authority in entertainment teammate. Sector and a leader who inspires action with over twenty five years in the industry has experience and expertise have resulted any ninety nine percent. Success rate he has has worked with many teams who have guided the careers of high profile clients. Such as Mariah Carey Daryl Hall and John oates Alanis Morissette Big Enrich our own kid rock in the teen media a personality Zach saying just to name a few with an eye for opportunity and power of persistence. He along with Frankie. Jason Turner recently founded bulldog entertainment a company specializing in artist about -ment Mr. Valentino is a regular contributor illegal commentator on Sirius Xm in addition to his business pursuits Tommy as a philanthropist at heart and has been involved with many charitable causes joining us. Today is Mr Valentino calling in all the way from New York City as jeering story to start from scratch and build a successful entertainment law business in the very competitive market of New York new. uh-huh argue there still starting to in the one off with Nora. I wasn't singing. Oh well hopefully nobody else heard that all right anyway. First of all. We're going to start with congratulations to you and your team for center of gravity. The movie Arctic Dogs. We were just be entering about it before we got you on the phone here. And it's a great movie but I have to tell you when the credit started rolling and all your names came up in the song song was playing. That's when we all lost again. Yeah Yeah You know what I'm going to say something there and That is Probably one of the greatest moments of my career it really because yeah so. I'm glad you said that because yeah I know you guys went sought. The night came out in New York. And of course I was telling Chumpol texts me the the credits and technical Songa. DNA just wanted to see them Raqi. Jackie would not let us go to the movies too. I was saying before when I found out I was going to be in Newark on Friday. I was telling him I was like I'm going to have Tommy. I'm GONNA go time. You know now in that my mom was like well. We're GONNA go see it's like oh you can't go see it was much. Oh you think we're going to wait for your schedule. The jump was texting me and he was saying rockies crying. I'm crying too little Nancy. It's I know tears from Tommy though. So let me ask you this. Tell me why was that such a big moment for you. They'll uh well it's it's a big moment because this is what I done a lot of things as an attorney when you do things as an attorney. There's there's a different level of emotion. You're you're more Objective your role in the process. When you're the attorney is much different then when you're the company that's the owner of you know the master recordings and publishing which is what symbols dog is? So when you have when you you do that you have more state You know in the game. So that makes you react even differently. Not that when I have people who are successful as an attorney. It's not gratifying. But this was particularly gratifying. Because all the work that we've done over such a long period read time when you see things start to connect then you really really get emotional about it. Even though I wasn't crying I was crying another way away. That's gotta be an amazing feeling though to to know that you're the person that takes they action that can impact so many people's lives i. I can't even imagine what that must feel like I'm crying when you're crying differentials here is that when you're when you're the attorney you're usually working on a teen there's a manager involved most likely there may be a business manager or whatever but the team when you're doing what we're doing with Zen bulldog is a different team because you're working with creative people you're working with producers in this case you know frank he's writing songs rockies writing songs franking Franken Turner and he's from Detroit right so you have all you have. This is a team. But it's a different kind of team. And so it's a different kind of strategy that you need to employ when you're doing what we're doing Suzanne bulldog and we're GONNA get a little more into then bulldogs some love the name. ID WE'RE GONNA find out where that came from but before we dig into uh-huh before we dig into all that we do want to get a little bit of the back story of What was Tommy? Valentino like as a child. Well I grew up in a town. Called the marinate New York and The the moniker of the town is the friendly family village and I had. I had a great childhood I think is you know I. I was disciplined and I played a lot of sports and on a lot of friends. And all I'd say ten and my best friend then or my ten best friends now doubt about that. Yeah Oh that's right. Yeah and in fact one of those friends just called me a little while ago and we're working on another project together that involves me But we're all on email every day and you know we're we're all in touch and we laughed and we have a good time so I'd like to think that That growing up in that town which is funny because it's only half an hour from New York City but if do you ever go there. It's like every other suburb in America. Wow so are you going to tell us what. The project is Dana. Hi Ah Jackie's attorney known as you said that. Here's here's the funny thing about this project. Is that when I told John Paul about it he said well of course people are GonNa tell you they like it right. Who's GonNa tell you? They don't so if the project where I believe that there's there's a void in the market for a judicial entertainment and these are one minute to one and a half minute videos that I do of legal cases that have a twist. They're not summer entertainment oriented but some are also just consumer oriented the kind of small claims cases that you would you see on the judge Judy. Show Oh yeah. Yeah and my so. I'll take like a dogfighting case where you know dog bit. The ear of the four year old child and Manatee County Florida. And then you know they want to put the dog to sleep because of what he did and then a judge intervenes and says no and so the moral of the story is the dog has the same rights of due process as humans. Yes like that. And I believe that content is moving towards short-form entertainment. And so this is. This is specifically designed for radio and websites and advertisers Simpson of that nature. What when did you know you wanted to go into entertainment law like was that when you started college? Was it before college. Oh no well I wanted. I knew I wanted to go see. It really wasn't about entertainment law for me. I wanted to be in the music business. In which way and so what did you want to originally okay. Well I played guitar in a band when I was younger. Oh No And but I never. It's funny after two or three years. I didn't really enjoy it so I quit. The band. became the band's CBS manager. Okay Yeah what kind of what we you did cover tunes we did sixty cover tunes sixties. COVINGTON's okay so for instance we would get up on stage and we might play in the god of Davita veto by the Iron Butterfly which every band all around the world and played in that time because it was a half hour long four gorge to the Song We destroy money. Do like born to be wild wild by Steppenwolf that half an hour lab. How old were you when you realize is there? I was about Fifteen and you became the manager I waited about six months and then when I was sixteen I became and so on. Go ahead. It's it's funny because I'm not saying that I was a good manager right but then I was at school one day and someone came up to me and and said you know We need a van to play at my graduation party. Or my sister's graduation party. Would you guys be willing to do it. And I said Yeah and I think they offered us like three or four hundred dollars at that time. which were freaking out right now? We free today. Yeah yeah after that. I guess they thought I was a good manager. And that kind of got me started along the path of music but but the but the point of all of it is that my original inclination towards the business was based on my love of music and the the fact that the fact that I played just sort of added to that even though I recognized that that's not what I ultimately wanted to do. Do I did read and write music so I felt like I had a sense when I was listening to things. It wasn't just as a fan. It was at someone someone who had taken Qatar lessons for four or five years and had a little bit of knowledge into you know knows and progressions cords and things like that so. Do you still play Qatar today. No I quit what did you. What did your parents think? Cov- You Dabbling in the music business in high school when my dad was a Roofer and So you know he the one thing he always said to me. I want you to go to college. That there wasn't even a conversation about that right And so you you know. Initially they were supportive. They were supportive. Really all the way through my mother and my father would completely support it. They understood my passion. They understood good that I didn't want to be a Roofer And then you know it was later on that when I started to work in the business and saw saw how things work that I decided to go to law school. But that wasn't everyone in law. School was there because they wanted to be a lawyer and I was there because I loved music music and thought they practicing entertainment law would be a more secure pass in the event that something didn't work out on the creative side that I was drawn to. Wow I love that you you already knew at that young age. You know what you wanted to do. Do you think I heard uh-huh go ahead. Oh I was GonNa say do do you feel like your your dad instill that into you or was something to you just head. Oh No my dad my dad it definitely did. But here's the funny thing and you know later on in my life I moved to Nashville and lived there for seven years. which just seems to you know? You wouldn't expect someone like me to do that. My Dad listen to country music. Oh so yeah. He was a a big fan of Johnny cash and Kris Kristofferson and Willie Nelson and so and then growing up I had a friend And I WANNA say these people's names because they're very important to me yeah I had a friend growing up named Gioja Rhonda Jo had a brother name. Vida and Vito was three years older than us right and so oh every day after school we'd go over Joe's house you know. His parents were were literally right off the boats from Italy right so we go in the basement and veto would come in in play all this music so he might be playing cream or stepping wolf for sly in the family stone and it was great because there was no you know if it was good music you made the cut and you got into. The basement walked art. That's true yeah and so from there I started to say to myself. Well I love the music that my dad's playing but I also love this other stuff. Did vetoes playing. And that's how I kind of got into all the modern music of the tyne nine and then of course I forget where I was I think one day I was at a baseball ball practice and I was in a field park and there's convertible drove by and I heard this song called Bernadette and it just it just throws me because this guy never heard a guy thing like that and he was saying Bernadette and uh-huh afterward I started to do some research I went to the local record store. Bought the forty five of Bernadette. And that was my introduction. optioning to motown passionate about is everyone in Detroit wound. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah. So why. Didn't you move to Detroit Ashville. Oh well at the time. I just knew what motown was. I was too young to really think about about moving anywhere. I didn't move to national until you know about midway through my career. I was there from about eighty four to eighty nine so the wind graduated law school. What was like the first big? Like what like in your mind. What was the like first big case or big Brian? Yeah milestone that you worked on well the big the big case of the big client. I mean the first big thing they came was really kid. Rock wound. That was that was the one you know Bob was the one that that was really the client that everyone anyone paid attention to after. I had shopped for two years. And I mean you know. I couldn't get arrested but then people started to see things differently. We made had some adjustments And those adjustments were successful and then yeah so it was really Bob. It was like the first big name person that that I I worked with. So is that how you're Detroit relationship then really solidified and began. No no no no no no no no I was working at. Bmi Broadcast Music Inc right the Performing Rights Society and so we had a staff meeting one day and there was about seven of us now at the time. Hi I wasn't a lawyer. I was doing like anr for BMI and so has staff meeting and they went down the list who wants to go to La who wants to go here who wants to go to Florida and there were two cities last one was Atlanta and the other one was Detroit and before. Yeah I knew what was happening. One of the executives who worked with me said well. I'm taking Atlanta. I was left with A. Hey so I'm now. So and they my boss came up to me and said Oh. There's this show called the motor city music awards and since your BMI. You're going to have to present an award. Oh well okay. So I fly into Detroit. Now I don't know a soul in Detroit right and they wanted me to stay for like two or three days and go on some panels and do some things is and I was nervous. I'd never been to Detroit and so I presented the award I believe it was at the State Theatre And you know the award award out and now I'm thinking to myself okay. Like what am I gonNa do now and Mike GonNa go back and sit in the hotel or you. You know what's going to happen so I started to walk to the back of the theater and I see this eighty style hairband. Look looking guys with guys yells out sending. Hey New York yeah now. That gentleman was none other than Brian Story. No Way Wow. I know you're wrong loving the screen. So and he had his brother Mark with him and then the rest of the band right so the minute he said. Hey New York. Naturally I had a reaction right and you know I walk over there and we start to talk at one thing led to another other and then the next the next thing I knew I spent the next forty eight hours hanging out with Brian and Mark City history history. Yeah Yeah Yeah and in fact I extended my stay. Yeah thinking like how am I going to get out of here like this is the best place on earth really fell in. Love would've fell in love with his son. And I know you all know that you know Brian and market is still very very close to this day and Yeah Yeah Yeah thank you I. Shout out Detroit. Yeah I was GONNA call him and say hey. I'M GONNA shout you out on the noon. Show figure let me shout them out and then I'll put it up on my link in post and he'll freak Out even more Brian on the show yeah. He's great he's so committed to Detroit music so from from that point on. How did you end up building Such a powerful network was it after the kid. Rock experiences that Because I mean you anybody can go to college and get a degree of any any decree but building. Such a strong network doesn't matter what industry you're in is not easy to do right and the way it works. Is You just have to connect the adopts right. You're going from point eight point data point. See you're you're trying to make sure that the connections actions you make a mutually beneficial In my case in the early earlier part of my career sure some of the people that I was associating with didn't have the same values and principles that I have so oh it takes a while to figure that part out okay like I wanNA make sure that I'm in sync with the people that are in my network and but it's a lot they did is You know just learning as you go along and figuring things out and but it's also strategic to what what the strategy involved. What kind of values did you have at that time when it came to Having business relations like what was important he values the values are the same today. Okay so the values and the principles We're taught to me by my family and other words by my immediate family. My mother and my father My grandparents on both of my mother's side and my father's side And really all my friends everywhere we went everyone had the same about right. Trust Loyalty You're a a man of your word. You're a woman of your words and that was constantly reinforced and and there was a way that you were taught to carry yourself. I'm John Amos would say 'cause I read Joe's book and that is that you're humble Your Yeah you you let your actions speak louder than you're worrying and there is a couple of times when there might have been situations when I was young. And you know got cocky and Mike. There were twenty people to just say dial it back right now I was your dad. What's your dad one of them? Yeah my dad Could just look at you as many as many Italian K.. They speak from experience. Yeah Yeah you know what I'm saying. Yes we do. If if my hair dot a little longer at one point I was daring John. Paul I know love this rockies. Go John Paul on this so I had these big muttonchop sideburns right and you know I was letting them grow grow and grow and then one night I came home for dinner and you know there was a photo. I was in the local newspaper because I was folk captain of the football team with my dear friend Danny Mehta and My Dad just looked at me and said you know. I think you need to say though sideburns upstairs and I did I just look. Wow wasn't a conversation I have a question is okay so I I told you this. I've told my mom that I said there's two people in this world that scare me the most and that is you and my mother. She Cross right now. We have a person in between us. Don't worry I'm safe. It was your dad as intimidating as you are feel like your dad probably would scare the shit out of me too so if you know what someday were I debated on whether I should send you a photo of I that I have of my dad among the. Yeah Yeah I mean. He had like a thin mustache and If you saw photo you'd say okay you know. My Dad was more than me on that level He was he was intense but in a good way and yeah you know He. He had to do what he had to do. He he was a Roofer. And you know if it rained out. He didn't work so later in life I understood that. Yeah well what's the best offer from a lot of things But what's the best lesson that you got from in your dad that's lesson would be Again it was the idea that you carry yourself a certain way you you you remain humble. You just remain humble you you. Don't you know he was. He was as a kind of a guy who believes that. Keep things under the radar Family was number one you know family was first and doing the right thing. He had definite value system. There was not like today where everything's everything's gray and it's this and that I mean there were things. There were principles. There were certain. I don't WANNA say rules. But there were certain codes of conduct and Hugh adhere to those codes of conduct. It sounds like integrity was really yeah. That's the word the the the gap that would be a great word to describe it and yesterday so fast forward just a little bit when you started working. How did you come in contact with kid rock? How did that whole thing evolve as it did because you've told us a little bit Just about the trials of that you had to go through but tell tell us how that happened. Okay so in the Detroit free press. It's talked about a little bit but you know naturally when you're being interviewed by someone and it's an article where everyone's telling their story. It's different than for from my perspective what happened. which is that in other words? By the time I got the kid rock. Then that was that but the question that you're asking how did you get your kid. Yeah right right how kid rock yet to me however right around okay. So I was at a club in New York City and I can't remember the name of it but I was with a client of mine named Jamie Houston Jamie later. Went on to become a big writer for Disney. He wrote two or three of the top songs in high the school musical. Wow Yeah yeah if you look his name you'll see that. And and at the time he was signed to Warner Chapel music and he was an up and coming writer producer and he had a production company and he was looking to sign artists to the production company so so he and his girlfriend and my wife. Nancy and I went out one night. And we're at this club and we see this woman performing on stage and we're like Oh my God. This woman's amazing you know Jamie said would you go up to her with me and you know I wanNA sign or to the production company so I say sure so. After the biggest show we approached the woman I said. Hi I'm Tommy. This Jamie and the woman was carig regard. Who is one of the most successful songwriters? Now was a judge on American idol. Oh yeah wow right. So she turned to me and says well. If you if you want to do anything with me you have to talk to my publisher and she hands me a card of her publisher now. The publisher was a guy named Bryan Brinckerhoff. And and so he had heard some things about me from my friends in Nashville. One friend is to take your job braves and so when I called Brian Brian Up. He said hey you know I heard really good things about you from John and You Know Cara is is not you know. You can't do a production and deal with her. She's already on her way. And you know but I just got a call from a manager named Steve Hutton. And and he has an artist named Kid Rock and kid rock is looking for an attorney. He's had two or three attorneys and things haven't worked out for whatever no reasons and would you be interested in talking to this guy and he said you know he's he's a personality. That was the word he said he's personality. Alex and you sound like the kind of a guy that could do a good job representing him. 'cause representing him as like part of it would would be you know helping the manager and you know really integrating into the team so I said sure. Why not You know I was getting a referral from publisher so so naturally I would be interested. And then I called Steve Houghton and we spoke and we hit it off and then he said I'm going to have bob call you and then Bob up. Call me on a Saturday. When spoke for about a half hour and he said hey man I really did where you're coming from and you know I wanna work with you and then I think about two? She were three weeks later. I flew to Detroit and Saturday afternoon. Don't remember much of what happened after the. Yeah that's probably a good thing And then and then we just kept going from there you know. We started the shopping process assets and got to deal with Jason Flom Lava Atlantic records. Wow and then from there you know everything just started to catch on and become dot com. What legendary is today? Wow how how long after you met him. Did you go see him. Live perform live I because see there was. Yeah there was the way I remember. It probably was a month or two because the anr person Andy Indycar was gonNA was already sorted into this and he was flying into see Bob and so Carpet I flew in together. I first to see the first show and then after that show. That's when we went back and convince Jason Flom to fly in and then Jason flew in To the State Theater and then after that you know it wasn't much longer maybe two weeks and the deal is done. What what was it about with him? That made you WanNa work with him. Will there was a buzz on him. Right so bob bit already done a lot of the work himself. I mean he was selling out clubs he was selling out. I remember. I'll never forget. I sat down with Jason Flom. And he said You know this Guy Kid rock selling on our state theater. I've got matchbox twenty two million records. And you know we're we're almost like not selling out as well as he can right and and they're inaccurate. You know two million records so the body created a lot of the The buzzing the excitement on his own so that was a case where I was just again connecting the dots right. You look at all the people who are involved in all the people who are interested in it right Of course I recognized what he was doing. You know there was a little bit of a discrepancy because at the time but now is it just been dropped Telling me you know a white guy doing hip hop and you know and I was like. WHOA WHOA WHOA wait a minute? This guy is not doing hip hop okay. If you go to see his live show it's rock and roll is rock and roll can be doesn't have a DJ name. Dogu Cracker onstage spinning records. Yeah does he have a lot of the robot. Oh the you know. Some of the apart. Hip Hop artists have yes but in its essence. This was a rock and roll show Why and it's interesting that as he's progressed later in his year that that's that's where the show leans means more towards country rock right that that John wrote music right so from that point on? Punish you're going on your career. How did you end up meeting Frankie Jason Turner and let's I want to get into Zen bowl dot sure? Sure sure. Sure Frankie well. All roads lead to Brian though. Yeah Ryan had called me because he wanted me to meet with Mark Farner from grand funk railroad because mark had some contractual issues with the record company that he had dealt with years ago so and then. Brian said to me as as Brian would right. Oh yeah and I have this song writer. I want you the knee. And he's worked with us at Harmony Park from you know the time he was a kid him so on and so forth and I said sure so I I met with mark and when that meeting was over. Brian was still at Harmony Park. I went downstairs and we had lunch. And Frankie I was introduced to Frankie and and You know I had heard some of the stuff that Frankie had done with gentlemen mutineers and but I really really liked the music that he had done. But I just fell in love with Frankie as a person and so then okay so from there it you know we we just started talking and we really got to know each other really well and I said you know. I'm not really looking in this instance. I was GonNa do something with you. I don't just want to do it as a lawyer. I'd WanNa do it. As a partnership and form a company would with former partner from company in a production company and he was into that and so. That's then you know we moved forward with John bulldog entertainment which is our production and Publishing Company. Tell how did the Zen bulldog how did that name come about that was Frankie's idea And and you know I was saying to him one day a I get. I get spastic with certain things. We actually with a lot of things in my corporate guy on the phone. It's like well. What what's the name of his company I'm like I don't know Frank Frank? He's like the most steady personality I've ever known in my life and it's almost like she manages me and so I hi call him up on freaking out. I'm like hey we need. We need a name. I don't know I don't know what name you know. Think of a name and you know. And so we when Frankie and I met what what I feel like we really bonded on besides the fact that I thought his music was great. And you know you talked again about values and principles right. I felt like we come from the same place even though he grew up somewhere. Far from me Besides the music and everything what we really bonded. aww We started talking about medication so thank he was doing some meditation and I said well. That's really interesting. I've been meditating for thirty thirty years. Oh okay got Taichi right and then I started telling on 'em about all the books I've read this subject And you know he was like Kinda surprised as most people are right And so he came up with the idea of Zen bulldog entertainment. You know I think there's it's a parent who is presented. WHO's the I really loved? It ain't yeah. It's a great story at my name. So what's your favorite book drew My favorite book well on in that area the Yoga Sutras of baton. Julie which are like the you know the Sanskrit tax of Yoga But I read a lot of Lot of things on Buddhism uh-huh eastern religion. Oh Wow I read a lot of books on religion. That's interested in martial arts. Yeah no I didn't I didn't know that. Yeah no no I do. I'm really You know I'm I'm keeping into it but I'm not fanatical but I'm very knowledgeable about it Yeah I I did. You have mentioned that we've had talks talks about that kind of stuff and it's my sister. I was saying you know she's I was talking to you. Know you really need to get into doing just a little bit of Yoga a little bit. Because I'm not that kind of person I said. If Tommy Valentino. There's no there's no type of person that can do this and then she started doing it. So yeah there's there's a lot of value to it and you want to necessarily think that that I would do it but it also also helps in business a lot Because it keeps you balanced and keeps you focused and it teaches you to live in the moment so that You know if I'm not crying when my favorite artist is debut in her movie at I say that it helps with that center of gravity. Yeah Yeah yes. That's that's just being present is an in the moment. That's what that is. And so you know. Frankie was aware that that I had this then side right and and so I think that had a lot to do with you know it is well even know the reality is I say Frankie's more than most of the time uh-huh than I am And I'm bulldog most of the time but there's a lot of times when When we have conversations and I'd like to I think that Zen in you know saying to him? Here's what you need to do this that kind of thing. You go pardon whenever I'm sorry you're both equal parts. You know what I mean like I do feel like they're bulldog each one of you and there there's more of a presence of at different times both of you are are very much you you both are Xeni and the bulldog which I think for John I that works out very well. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah No. It's it's I think it's it's a great combination and again if you were to ask me. What inspired inspired this partnership It was the fact that when we started talking it was about meditation. Wow that's interesting you know. That makes a Lotta Sense. Now that I think of Because obviously with the whole center of gravity we were very excited for Raqi but we were also also very excited for Frankie because I do feel like he he really has been grinding it for so long and now it sorta or to make sense with the whole zen being present in the moment. That's probably what has helped you guys day in it so long because because it's it can be very discouraging this industry and you know it seems like a lot of people just can't stick with it to get through it. Well here's the interesting thing about that. Our attitude is always been. We're going to keep doing this no matter what right right because when you genuinely like someone why would you not want to talk to them. Every day You look forward to those conversations and and the challenges that come in. You're both saying well. You know we can can get this figure it out but we're not going anywhere so if we just keep hanging in there sooner or later want something should break but you know what. Let's say day that he doesn't we don't care. I mean we're off one who want to have our people be successful right but it's more important orange us that you know twenty years from now or ten years from now or whatever that we can pick up the phone and have seen conversation that we're having today that that is just so cool. I'M FOR NUTLEY WE'RE GONNA. We're we're running running out of time here but we do have a quick four four for four that we're GONNA do. Each of us are going to ask a question Random go ahead rocky up all right so my question is if someone was to make a movie of your life who would you picked to play you currently or any any whoever Marlon Brando go grapes in his mouth without hardly any of any of these roles control. Yep Okay go ahead all right now. I'm in your education and and who made a difference difference in your life. was there one person that sticks out in your educational career that made a difference. I can't believe you're asking. This question is Irene Willis. Who was my English teacher in Eleventh Grade Reineck schools I the life online? I'm a teacher so you know I always wonder about that. Like what what differences do we make in people's lives so good I I would not be where I am today without Irene Willis I you know I looked her up a couple of years ago. I'm not sure it's currently deceased or not but She changed changed my life. She changed my life. We asked how Well she made me aware that I had an ability to write. No Oh aw she brought it out and that ability is what allows me to do my lincoln posts today and right my legal documents and varying God as an as a teacher. I'd encourage you to continue to look to see if he could find her. She'd like to hear that. That's okay norm Da. Aw that's my piece of advice for you. Okay if you had to create a playlist that everyone in the world had to listen to what three songs would you pick. But you can't pick anything from rocky Chumpol and Frankie Jason Tournament. Obviously those were my favorite Solo. Yeah second would be Since I lost my baby by the temptation I love Esau would be stairway to heaven. Oh Wow I would listen to see we were we were right. I we're wearing Sadat Tra. I knew you would wouldn't be. I thought frank well you know frank. Frank is See I with Frank. He's just frank so right. I can't be little frank like if I'm GonNa give you one frank song. Do you understand this right then. I give you everything we're Song Frank. We're talking about the greatest that ever lived the wall time period and the store okay. That's good Okay so last. Question is your signature. Tagline says does good advice can change your life. What's the best advice you ever got? That really made an impact on your life I think the best advice I ever got on my in my life was a saw to go to law school. That was given to me by my family Um Well Yeah Yeah they you know I was in the music business at a young age doing a lot of things you know. I was impressionable and again as a collective unit they all sat me down and said no no. No no no. You're you're going to law school. You're going to be educated and and that was it and that's I think that was the best advice ever been given to great advice centre. Yeah for for someone WHO's listening to this conversation whether they're pursuing a career music or any other passion What's one piece of life advice that you think everybody needs to have you have to go with your? I'M GONNA have to go with your gut posted about this yesterday. And you. You're you're GONNA be going down this road and so many things going to happen and blow up in your face and actually you know here's the cliches. Okay get knocked down you come back up right and all that and that's true through but at a certain point you get knocked down ten million times and you know maybe start to say. I don't want to get back up. Right you have to learn from each experience that hurts you right and Buddhism. Mir's the idea that you should be thanking the people that hurt you the most right and I think that's that's in Christianity and in most other religion that concept right the people that hurt you the most are the ones that you should thank the most. Because they're the ones that teach you you the most in that is certainly the case in my life. Wow great you want a bank them all the time. The lessons hurts but they they. They've made me the person that I am today. And I've never been happier

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Set Lusting Bruce Your Podcast or Mine crossover

Set Lusting Bruce: The Springsteen Podcast

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Set Lusting Bruce Your Podcast or Mine crossover

"Hello set lesson Bruce Losers. This is Jesse Jackson last week. I was lucky enough to be a guest on a podcast. Called Your podcast or mine. Sherry Thomas is the host of the show and she has different podcast host. Join her and they talk to them about their podcast. And give some information about it and she invited me to join her and we talked a little bit about next. Stop everywhere and some of my other podcasts. But most of the PODCAST is about set lesson Bruce Sherry had been on my podcast a few weeks ago so it was kind of Nice to have her return the favor and have me join hers so in case you missed it Sherry said. Hey just go ahead and send it on your her feet as well so here is Me guesting on Cherry Thomas's your podcast are mine. Okay enjoy Welcome to your or podcast or mine. where the creative minds behind the MIC? Our interview down. Let's get things started your host sharing And welcome to your podcast are mine. I'm Sherry and today. I'm speaking with Jesse Jackson that creative mind behind the podcast set. lusting Bruce. How are you today Jesse I am great? Thank you so much for having me. Thanks for being on so Let's start with you you you are and give a brief description of your podcast. Sure Sherry I am Jesse Jackson. I live in Dallas Texas or at least the Dallas area and I'm Old Sixty year old guy. have been a Fan of all things. Nerdy and Greek Geek is you know my whole life and Started podcasting probably four or five years ago and the podcast specifically that drives a lot of passion is less than Bruce Bruce Springsteen podcast and what that is is I talked to Bruce springsteen fans from around the world about their fandom about what Bruce's music has meant to them We talk about different shows and just kind of that experience and because music is so important important to people's lives We ended up having some interesting conversations. Yeah and Become friends with it's it's it's like our entire community of Bruce Springsteen fans and uh you know that you've become friends with and discuss the you know everything bruce and Everything I you know. All of his projects whether it's with His Solo career with the East street band or his movies movies or his autobiography things of that nature. Right absolutely The the range of Bruce Springsteen His career has been pretty wide ranging and significant and And a lot of ways two thousand nineteen has been the year of of spring steam. He he he put out a new album. Called Western stars blinded by the light which was a film that was released this this summer. That actually dealt with Young people in the United Kingdom Coming in age listening to Bruce's music nick and then Western stars. The film was just released Last month in October where. It's Kinda concert film and documentary so yeah yeah two thousand nineteen th been a good year for the boss. Yeah and you know there are You Know News floating sitting around at East street will be reuniting again hopefully soon To do a tour or at least you know talk about doing it or you know. I'm I'm I was on your show and I was. You Know Disgusting Clarence you know. Would it be Impact he had on my life and and I'm also a huge fan of Little Steven and everything that he does to Of course FRUS- too. You know. They absolutely are amazing meals and snacks. And you know the whole like the whole bunch of all right. I mean saying patty all them. So yeah and you know what's interesting Sherri as you mentioned that You know not only. Is this this you could make the year spring. CNC here of these band. NEILS LOFGREN had a new so album. Little Stephen put out a new solo album. Jake Clemens who is Clarence. His nephew who has been since clearances path has kind of stepped up to be originally he was part of the horn section but then The last tour. He was the saxophone player for the band. You know he put out a solo album and so it it. It has been a very very good time to be an eastern band. Fan Fa. Yeah it is for sure so besides Less than Bruce. Are there any other podcasts. That you work on I do I currently If you ask my wife I do way too. Many PODCASTS Currently I'm trying to limit it. I have Next stop everywhere a doctor who podcast that my friend Charles skaggs. I been doing for like three years. Four years maybe even and We talk about the TV show doctor who both classic second modern episodes and since there is not new hooping produced right now We are going through old episodes. And I've Kinda step back and I said Charles I wanted to take a break. And so he's Host that three of four weeks where he has guests companion Gandhian talking about a classic who episode and then about once a month I jumped in and we talk dr who together then Charleston. I also do to comic book related episodes. We do a phantom zone. PODCAST which is where we discuss comic book TV and currently we were talking the. Hbo Series Watchmen and then tightened talk. Which is an episode? Where the podcast where we talk about the DC universe direct Titans series. But you know I've hosted a castle podcast when castle was here ear was the ABC. Show I we I was part of a game of thrones podcast And then I have a really small podcast. It Cash Sherry that gets maybe one hundred downloads. A month But it is my friend Bob. Junior Scott Ni- get together and we talk about how many in which is where we pick a pop culture topic and kind of disgusted death so I do a few PODCASTS Yeah and right now your taking part in the Challenge that's going on the POD POMO challenge where you're The attempting to to put up a podcast today for the month of November I they give you credit for that I know other people who are doing it Well Sherry It's kind of funny because This earlier this year I was thinking about doing something different and there was I I've been. I was converted to Catholicism. My wife was raised Catholic and so when we started dating I converted the Catholic and you know for lint people either give up something for the forty days of lent or they the church will recommend you do something positive like go to church and extra time a week or do something kind and a Lotta Times there. Are these devotional. 's where you do a Bible verse and and you talk about it Every day of lint so I decided it would be fun to do forty days of spring seen so that in in four all of Lance which by the way is not forty days. It's actually forty seven because you don't count the Sundays in lent. I did not know that We did had an episode every day. Where we pick the springsteen lyric and then we talked about it and luckily I had listeners and fellow podcasters on castors that picked lyric and day? Join me and so there were different voices so I figured if I've done forty seven days I should be able to do thirty So I I appreciate the good wishes and the admiration I'm doing something a little different. I my I I thought about doing springsteen's lyrics again but I'm doing Probably Twenty five or thirty Gratitude posts so each day. I'm picking taking something in my life that I'm grateful for and I'm talking about that for five or six minutes and so it's Kinda chance for my listeners to learn a little bit more about me hopefully for them to think about what they should be grateful for. And in the meantime I mixing in regular episodes with Guests with you know different. Fans of Bruce. I've had writers and other things joining the show. I meet me so So it was less than bruce is part of The Southgate Media Group Has it that affiliation kind of out and Can you tell me a little. Oh bad about them. Oh absolutely So it's I was doing the My very first podcast experience. reince was a Farscape podcast. Farscape was a Show that had Was filmed out of Australia. it's mostly known for the Jim. Hinson muppets You know the puppets that they play. And it is absolutely an amazing science fiction series and Escape cast wanted to do a rewatch where a couple of people who knew farscape would watch an episode one time at a week. And you'd have a couple of rookies someone who'd never seem a series and I was doing that as the rookie. And Karen Lindsey who is the CO host Mentioned at the end of a podcast goes. Hey Jesse I'm thinking about doing a castle. PODCAST Would you want to join me and I said Yeah. You know I'm all about Nathan Philly and I love firefly that sounds fun and In one of the things Karen did is I think you want it. Seems like you WANNA learn how to host. So why don't you take lead on this podcast. She did all the editing she did all the scheduling. But I kind of is the one who would work up the agenda and Quote Unquote drive the bus. So Oh I was doing that. And Rob Southgate. Who was the head of Southgate Media Heard a podcast. Yeah and then I was asked to join him to talk about. He had a podcast called. The Toured a concert on different tour. Different podcasts about different conventions and I joined him on that and just out of the blue he says is. I've been thinking I wanNA do a doctor. Who podcast on the network? Would you be interested in hosting it and I said sure and so Rob Hooked me up and originally Charles and I would would record. And then we'd send him all the information. And as I think of many podcasters start feeling right Sherry that you want to be independent. So you learn how to edit and at first you're not very good wooded editing and then once you get that then you okay. Well now we learn how to post it and now let me how to promote it. So I've been working with southgate media probably four or five years and Rob and Martha and their daughter. Molly have just had made me feel like part of the family that was really neat. And then they put out like a book then One of them put out a book about like the pod Life Just like yeah a couple of days ago. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah it was. It was What Rob Bob did is he? Got A collection of probably thirty five forty podcasters and we all wrote a chapter of what podcasting podcasting means to us and so he collected he did the kickstarter campaign and so the book just got published It's available on Amazon in paperback. And it's M it's available through the kindle And so there's a lot of different podcasters in. They're we're talking about the different stories. And and what motivates them about podcasting what they've enjoy about podcasting and so it's A. It's an interesting book to read. And guess what am I am a very small chapter in the book so Going back to a set lesson bruce. How often do theory released episodes and Do you have a specific day that you put them out. Yeah so I tried to record to put out an episode so at least once a week usually on Tuesdays I then I'll I'll sometimes do a smaller episode on Thursday You Know Sherry one of the things that Because I'm an interview show by the podcast is totally based on guests. And if I don't have guests and I don't have anyone to talk to. I'm kind of in a world of trouble trouble so I tend to reach out to wonderful people like you Via Social Media and I book in advance like Hey Sherri you. You've let's talk you join me on the podcast you we can talk about your podcast. We can talk about your love of music And so I try to book three three or four guests in a row. Vance try to record three or four episodes where I always have at least two or three weeks worth of shows in the can and then that way I'm able to if I hit a dry spell where no one wants to talk to me. I have at least a little bit of buffer of episodes available. Yeah I got that completely So what was the driving factor to start podcasting What what what was the inspiration? What's our podcast that you heard or or was it? Something Yeah Sherry. There was a couple of things one. There was a I really was impressed by Ron. Moore's battle are GALACTICA podcast. He did re kind of pull back the curtain and talked about The making of the series and and choices they make creatively that was inspiring The Galactic Corum was a podcast gasol also about GALACTICA and they were just three. They were three or four friends. That all work together and so after a new battle circle last episode would come out they would take they would go in their lunch hour and they would put a you know a recorder in the middle of the table and they would just talk and I thought you know this is cool. A podcast can be very casual and enjoying that. So that's kind kind of inspired me. And then the origin story of settling Bruce. If you'll allow me to continue to Babylon I I I I've always been casual fan of Bruce springsteen but when I went and saw him two thousand to the I showing I kind of went from Santa fanatic and And you know th there's often people say that there's two kinds of people that go to their first springsteen show and go. Wow that was a long show to the others that go. Oh my goodness when can I go see him again and I was definitely the latter and So eliminate Kroll Adam Karol. His wife did a very like only seven episodes of a podcast Tenth Avenue podcast and she interviewed other celebrities. He's about their springsteen fandom and they didn't talk about you know their career all they talked about was being Bruce Fan and and in the music and I love those episodes and I also at the same time the film spring seen in I mike came out where they had In for those who've never seen this it is a is. It is heavily fan driven. Then what happened. Is You know hundreds of fans sent in Leo video clips that they have recorded with their phone recorder talking about what Bruce Springsteen's convenes music means to them and the filmmaker put it together and made a documentary and those two things made me think maybe maybe I could do yes instead of you know in the spirit of light a candle instead of cursing the darkness. Well I want a podcast likely nets. Maybe I should be the one who did it so I went to rob and I said Hey rob I wanNA do a Bruce Springsteen podcast and always pick that he goes really what but the reality is says. You Know Jesse Jesse Southgate media's all about following your passions so if you WANNA do upon cancel about Bruce springsteen great you want to do a podcast about Bourbon Great. Whatever whatever you're passionate about we want support you and so I I was debating like okay. I WanNa do this and Dan I if I had to Redo IT Sherry I would probably pick a different name I would pick like Jackson cage. PODCAST ask because my last name's Jackson and they're you know that's a springsteen song but 'cause I get a lot of questions about what to set less thing bruce mean and it's it's simple if you understand it Bruce springsteen does along show and his set list change most shows he is only fifty sixty percent of the show tends to be the same songs along the other forty fifty percent chain every night and he does the songs normally in different orders every night so because because people attend shows they often share the set list via social media either by twitter facebook or instagram. And so as the fan. If you're not at the show you will maybe follow that Fan. That's posting you know there's a show in Charlotte and you're sitting here in Dallas. Listen you've got twitter up watching the show and they're tweeting the songs and all of a sudden you're not set following you start set lusting because you're like oh my goodness. I can't believe he did this song and I'm not there so that's where the title of the podcast came from so shifting to the technical side What type of equipment used to record? And Edit your shows so We I tend to. I have a Mike I don't remember the brand but it was. I do a Mike I. It's connected directly directly to my computer. I currently use We do most of my interviews via skype Because I do talk to people in the United Kingdom's All over the country. I have a lady. I'm talking to in Australia this weekend. So skype works. Well for us us I ended up springing for the professional MP Three skype recorder I paid for that and and so it does a really good job of recording. It for me I did Pay For a skype phone number. So that People people who don't have skype can call in to me from their cell number and I can record it and then I use audacity to edit so I i. I don't do as much editing as I should sherry. I tend to keep this as a pretty casual conversation. you know as I say And so you know I have vocal tics like everyone else and especially when you're having a conversation with someone So I get rid of those a little bit but mostly I kind of if someone cusses beep it out if if someone says something something that they go. Oh I wish I hadn't said that I I edit that out and And if we get overly personal under discussion and I sometimes will go in. Well you know. My audience really doesn't need to know that. And I'll edit out but mostly I keep it pretty conversational so you hear all the flaws and the conversation. Yeah yeah I tend to prefer the organic conversation better because if you do too much editing it it kind of sounds that way you know. It sounds like that was that part was taken out. There was taken out right there. I could tell and I really I really do. Yeah and part of the fun though. My first negative I tunes review onset less. Bruce was someone saying the host Needs to build a Faq page because he tells he tells the same story too many times and Boy that really cut me. You know I was like Gosh Do I. But because like and I've talked to you Sherry I. I don't know if you've heard the episodes before and often people haven't heard the show they they haven't heard about it. I reach out to be a social media go. Yeah I'd love to talk Bruce Springsteen or or what music is meant to me and then so as we're having a conversation because it isn't in every show it's the conversation at sometimes you end up telling the story so they'll know what to say and They'll know how to respond. And I kind of I think I could make Bruce springsteen drinking game where they say you know Jesse benches his friend. Sam take a drink drink. You Know Jesse mentioned Linda. His wife take a drink so but I think that's part of the charm of the show. At least I hope it is oh sure because people who are listening and who are fellow you know who follow the show. They they want to get to know you and they we do know you If they have been so they're gonNA expect to hear something about your way for You you know the experience that you had a show or something you know So I think that's very nice. They grow in the audience. Too and Sherry. I honestly believe that you know more than professional. Aw like absolutely the podcast to sound. Good you have to have a high quality they have to be able to understand what you say and it you You know it should be mixed well enough that you know you don't you you don't have to turn it up all the way high and then the next minute turn it back down and to make a podcast accessible but I think the reality is people want to spend time with you and whether your podcast is thirty minutes or an hour if you're not likeable if you're not genuine people aren't GonNa want spend that time with you and so I think that's that's what I like about podcasts. When I listen to podcasts I wanNA hear people that Care what they're talking about and they sound like they're having fun and if they're not I just don't know I mean I you know share you obviously so you not only our podcast listener. PODCAST her and so. I'm sure you've had the experience where you listen to podcasts. And all of a sudden you're like these these hosts don't seem to like anything and I don't know if I want to spend my time with someone who's just criticizing mm something because there's enough negativity out there. I'm going to go somewhere else Oh Yeah for sure and also I. I'm I'm very like blunt to the point person I I tend to listen to the podcast to get to the subject fairly quickly. Rather than fifteen minutes of you know discussion about going out for coffee offie in the morning before they post the interview with you know so and so and or actor. Because that's why I'm listening to the podcast to to listen to the interview with the person that they have. The gas not necessarily the to hear about their or starbucks trip. I mean some shows some shows it fits but there's a time I met where you know time is precious. I'd rather listen to music than listen to the interview. If I have to listen up you know about the starbucks trip so yeah I right there with you I And there are people that have A really really good banter back and forth and I enjoy spending time with the but it is. I can't tell you how often I'm I'm GONNA I'm GonNA listen to an interview with someone and I'm hitting the thirty second skip button. You know like okay there. Are they get to the interview. Like I've given you enough time setting it up unless we're on So yeah I'm right there and the other thing I believe you can say something like it's okay to say you don't like let's let's pick on doctor who there are times when I don't like an episode and I said that We just had an episode of the Titans that Charleston. I both said you know this is not a very good episode. We we are kinda disappointed in it So I don't think you have to be Pollyanna and suzy sunshine all the time. But I think if you if you don't like things most of the time then move move onto another topic and start a podcast about something you do enjoy exactly agreed. Definitely you know and and I think it depends on Also the people that you interview as well like I. I not sure if you have experienced this Jesse but in in some and I haven't experienced that often but there are times where someone's very eager to get on the show whether it's this podcast or another one that I host or or or just in general and then you get them on the show and you ask them a question and it's one or two words and your interview with Damn it turns out to be five or ten minutes and it's very frustrating because you're trying to extract information out of them. It's just happening uh-huh even though they're very enthusiastic and in the beginning about getting on the the show. Have you experienced that. Oh Oh my goodness Sherry yes Especially early in the PODCAST and I had I had to. I wasn't very good at drawing people out one of the first couple episodes and so I kind of learned I think a little better at it but my favorite story is and There was a guy on and he was is good. I mean He. He told Nice stories but after about thirty thirty five minutes he seemed to be out of gas. And and that's not bad usually by podcast last forty five minutes to an hour but it was fine. It's okay to be you know it doesn't have to be everyone doesn't have to be an hour and and so it was good and so I wrapped it up and I did I you know I. I let him share where he could be reached at and I shared shared where he could reach that. And so I I hid. Stop on record and go. Hey did you have a good time. He said Yeah. He signed a great time. He said you know if Amman again. I should tell the story about how I went drinking with the members of the eastern band. And I'm like how did you bury that story. I mean you're for honest spring theme podcast and it and I think it just. He hadn't hadn't thought about it or he was nervous and the moment he knew he wasn't being recorded do something he brought up. And so I. Now throw that sociology. Is there anything that I haven't asked you that. Perhaps I shouldn't yeah like AH shake. Clemens walked up to my friend and I am the bar in New York City and told us that we were the most attractive girls and the place. Yeah exactly that that that happened to to one of my friends and I in New York City And like two thousand eight two thousand nine so Every Room I oh cool so sure I mean how would it end so And you know the other frustration. I have Sherri is I get a lot of people when I reach out to them. Oh Jesse I I don't have an interesting story and you know my point is all of us have different stories. I mean Bruce's music or music in general I'm going to have a guy on the show In a couple of weeks that is going to talk about Electric Light Orchestra and Jeff Lynne. That he just loves their music. And so I'm GonNa have him talk about that music so I get people with with other musical phantoms I call him b-side episodes and But every once in a while get people well I I just don't have any interesting stories to tell and I'm like no you're you know I had I had a lady. That's wonderful that Went went to Australia to see four or five springsteen shows but she's like yeah. I don't have anything interesting. You Win across the world this year. The band that'll won't is a good story Exactly exactly so Besides needs podcast thing If you have the time to listen to them which ones do you indulge in or like to listen to you on the Commu- or or just you know puttering around the house or whatever If you have the time to know there there are so many and I kind of have to you know rotate through I love wesseling. Weekly I. I'm a big Aaron. Aaron Sorkin Fan and Josh Molina and hurt Rishi Are going you know. They're up to the last season of West Wing. And I. I really love that episode of those. PODCASTS I tend Sunday. School Is A podcast that that is really just you know. Pin Gillette Michael Godot Matt. Donnelly just talking and that is the actual You know how you were talking about. You necessarily don't WanNa hear people talking about starbucks and I'm right there with you. Accept hearing these guys do it are pretty fun So I listened to that one are regular basis I go in and out of the We've got this with how and Mark That's the they take a topic like when door off seat and debate it back and forth and I think that's a really fun PODCAST music talks is a podcast that Terry Smith who is was originally finally A guest on my show and he came up and his is a very interesting premise. share. You should have him on your podcast. This is well especially your music. One the premises you pick a song from every decade of your life that you've been alive and so so that's it so like I was born in fifty nine. It's nineteen You know two thousand nineteen. That means I've been live seven decades. I get to pick seven songs. One from the fifties one for the sixty four hundred seventies blah blah blah. And that was it. There is no other discussion. There is no other rules and so you decide yourselves yourselves what you WANNA pick And then the there are multiple springsteen. PODCASTS Bruce springsteen things the off off of that which I love There is the boss cast There is is the I'm GonNa Forget one they have some new ones So I try to listen to all my cousin podcasts and that's that's a good start. I'm always looking for new podcast and listen. I'm really looking forward to. I've listened to a couple of these. He's and I'm looking forward to your music podcasts. It's coming out Well it actually has been out so Look for it. I I'll send you all but Yeah the Going back to starbucks talk. Yes like you you mentioned and if it is done well and it's humorous and they have a good Report with each other and you could tell but but it and it's done well then yes I enjoy it but but if there's like a a Primary goal of why. I'm listening to the PODCAST. Then you know it tends to frustrate me a little bit more but all I'll listen listen to it. No I totally get. I totally understand what you're saying because You know the bill be an interview with Bruce or an actor I wanna hear and or or a writer and they spend ten fifteen minutes kind of You know it is like watching the late dyke talk shows where okay I gotta sit through the monologue. I got it through the first little bit that they have before. They get to the person person that they're interviewing. I WanNa hear about and I'm like let's just skip through all that part and just get to the interview and spend longer with does persons And Yeah Yeah and yeah. There's really only one person I'll watch the monologue and and enjoy maybe me too but there's only one late night hosts I watched the whole monologue and I love so yeah and Yeah exactly so I'm right there with you but Getting back to the podcasting part about What would you say Let's start with like the the not so fun question. Listen what's the most challenging part about podcasting that is Good question Russian. I would say finding the guests Being embarrassed because you mess up the times and so someone sits there. Hey Jesse every talking talking Pulling back there and I did that. You left week I well that that's very challenging. especially if you're in a different time zone you kind of have to like wait two hours behind or three hours behind. Are they twelve hours ahead of me. I got it exactly and then the trying to What when I get challenged about is in? This is probably bury my soul more than I should is. I'll do an episode that I'm really proud. Round of I feel like that. The guests had really good stories. Like I had shelly swearing in the rock and roll librarian on. What's Yeah yes? Yeah Great Lady had a wonderful discussion. We had so much fun. And not even a blip on the amount downloads and And I have to remind myself and my wife does a good job of this. 'cause she's like Okay Jesse remember. You said you're I'm just doing this for fun. Why are you getting caught up in the fact that it's you know not enough people are listening and I go? You're right I I should just you know this is fun for me. It's not a job I don't make money off of it. Just do the best show you and and and appreciate the audience that you have so I think that is what I struggle with. Sometimes because so so many people I feel like that. I'm interviewing have such Great Stories I want more people to hear them. I want more Fans ends of music and positively You know I had a lady You know I I We had the lady. WHO's the Dutch Courtney Cox talks on a few months ago and she told about the story about getting a picture and meeting? Bruce and I've had people who You know we're going through a horrible divorce and Bruce's music made them you know. Survive it and I just. I want as many people to hear these stories to feel uplifted as possible. Well that's amazing. I love that part and yeah I mean I agree. I'm in in it for the fun too but if you have a really amazing conversation with someone you want everyone to listen to it but you know remember that. It's the most fun on that you've had so yeah I understand I understand that completely And then you know sometimes the ones that that were the most challenging turn out to be like download what exactly and so Yeah last September was bruce is a seventieth birthday and so I decided it would be fun to take to ask people to get Different listeners to wish him happy birthday and so It it took a while to get that going like for a while. They're only like five people that had left voicemails and I'm like okay. You know what what do I gotTa do what I gotTa do ended up getting Over eighty voices from fourteen different countries leaving messages so it took a long to get wild and get rolling but it ended up being a success. So on the flip side. What is the best part about podcasting? My absolute favorite part Sherry is win You couple of things one one when you someone who is a listener emails you and says Hey Jesse. I'm really liking this show. Let Me Tell You my Bruce Story and they'll send a few notes in the email and I'll reply back and go. Hey would you want to join me on the show and they go. Yeah that would be fun and you end up having a great discussion and then The other time is when I'll have someone like yourself who's another another podcast or or someone who writes a book or someone who's a blogger and We connect and we have a good discussion. And we we we get to share we get to promote something. We both love so like you were kind enough to be on my podcast and and we got to share share your passion and what you love about podcasting and now then in return. I'm getting to be on yours That's the best part is when you can you're part of this network of springsteen fans and podcasters and helping each other makes me smile. Yeah yeah definitely definitely so For any aspiring podcasters. What tips or suggestions? Since would you give to them. So the first thing to do is pick a topic that you're passionate about and because you're if if you're GonNa do this you're going to have to do it a lot and and if you pick a topic you're not that much in love with you're going to get bored. I read a study once or I read this that. Most podcast don't last seven episodes because the host runs out of energy. He runs out of stories She runs out of Energy so You WanNa pick a topic that you you feel you will enjoy discussing and that there's some depth to it Then get get it out there and don't be afraid. Just don't don't worry if you don't sound professionals to begin with. Don't worry if you've got a lot of stuttering and as Get it out there. Get listening and build You know there are a lot of facebook facebook groups out there that will help podcasters. Just get out there and and make it happen and and do it because you love love it not necessarily because you know you wanna be the next you know You Know Kevin Smith and smart awed gas right. Yeah or Joe Rogan or yeah. 'cause it's not gonNA happen for the most part unless you're really super lucky. Yeah but Yeah I understand that and and and the you know as far as like the pod feed is concerned to a lot of people just give up to. They don't think that they have enough listeners. It takes a while to build an audience. And you know. And even if you're reaching like five people per podcasts that it's five people that you're reaching out to that are taking time out of their day to listen to you and want want to so. That's how oh I feel about that you know. Sometimes it takes awhile it does sharing. That's so well said they You know You want to you know share connect with your audience. I one of the things that does frustrate me is often. I I feel like this is a one way discussion I have an email address. I have You know twitter and I have a website and I do not get enough feedback. feed-back return to me. I would love to hear more from my audience of what they like. What they don't like For that reason I you know I would love to have a little more dialogue so so yeah listeners if you like podcast You know drop a note or to the podcast or or go to send them a tweet saying hey I really liked this episode because I will tell you it means the world to them. Oh for sure I can relate with that definitely definitely so speaking of a your social media pages Working People find you. Or how can people listen to set. LUSTING bucer or other podcasts. Yeah so I appreciate that I have a website. WWW set listening. Bruce Dot Com. It is not very fancy But it is. I've joined the nineties. I've told people by having a website If you Google settling Bruce You know podcasts. ACID will come up any there There is a link from the website where you can listen to the different episodes You know I'm in all the normal mold podcast places stitcher and I tunes and everywhere else you anywhere you can get a podcast Settling missing Bruce's there I have my personal. Twitter is at Jesse Jackson. DFW I added the DFW. Because for a long time. I was just at Jesse Jackson and I got ugly political rants named at me from conservatives. WHO said you you damned Jesse Jackson? If I'm like no no no. I'm not the civil rights leader. I'm I'm a guy from Texas crazy about springsteen the show I add set lessening Bruce. This is on twitter and We have a facebook. Page listing. Bruce If you and from there you can also hear next up everywhere my doctor pause as Titan talk which is the Titan podcast and If you just feel like Hearing during four guys talk about weirdness My the how many podcasts in the southgate media like I said it's just four four guys senior picking a topic and if we get seven downloads. We are thrilled Sherry. So if someone wants to be a guest on the podcast to talk about Bruce springsteen and how they feel about them or if they have a unique story that they like to discuss Where can they contact you? to to potentially sue that I would love that nothing would make me happier settlers thing Bruce Russillo gmail.com Send me there and just share. You know your thoughts what you WanNa do We'll I'll sit down and figure out a schedule Like I said I. I usually record mostly at night because I have a day job. But I and and you don't have to just to be you know Bruce Springsteen Like if I've had people talk You know Pearl Jam. I've had him talk Daryl Hall. John John oates We've done John Hiatt a Harry Chapin so I'd love to hear anyone who's passionate about music and I always get had a few people on facebook who Bruce springsteen he's overrated. Oh I can't stand him and I always tell those people join me on the show. Oh I'm not gonNA be mean to you I'm not GonNa try to change your mind. I just would love to hear why you think that. So Yeah Open Forum. I'd love for Some of your listeners who are passionate about music. Email me and we'll get you on the show awesome so jesse any closing thoughts you'd like to share to people listening to this podcast Who listeners or of yours or who are discovering your podcast? The cats for the first time I believe that every Bruce springsteen fan in the world has a story to share in it. It's my duty to to get as many of those out in the world is possible If you have listened to the podcast and enjoyed it. Thank you if you've listen to it and didn't care for it. Shoot me an email and let me know why And just I will end with if you enjoy any any podcast. I really do suggest you. Every podcast has some way to connect them whether it's email whether it's a webpage whether ariss comments under You know go to them and tell them what you like about the show. Let them know that they're being heard and that. Did you like what they're doing because you will make their day and I just want to thank you I think you I love the idea this show. You're giving people other podcasters the chance to promote themselves in the Kinda share their passion and and you do such a wide range of podcasters on here and so i. I just think what you're doing great Sherry and I am really honored. You asked last week join you. Oh well thank you so much Jesse for coming onto your podcast your mind. I really appreciate it and To those is listening. Thank you for listening. And we'll see you next time

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Harris County Judge Lina Hidalgo (Sept. 21, 2021)

"This programming is brought to you by the near northwest management distract more information on the near northwest management district at n n m d dot org live near grow near from the chance to apply for small business relief to a public hearing on property taxes. Later today to a lawsuit brought over understaffing in the harris county jail and a policeman shot and killed. There's a lot going on in harris county right now. I'm craig cohen today on houston matters. We welcome your questions and comments about those and other developments in harris county for its chief executive judge lena hidalgo. She's with us through the first half of today's show to field those questions at talk at houston matters dot org or seven one. Three four four zero eight seventy you can also reach out on twitter at houston matters. Also this hour on friday governor. Abbott signed another bill into law further defining how public schoolteachers should address racism and slavery and history lessons. We listened back to what an h. Isd teacher told us. After the first such law was passed back in the spring will start with a news update from npr news. Eddie eight seven. Stay with us. This is houston matters. I'm creko and good morning coming up. We welcome your questions for harris county. Judge lena hidalgo you can call us now at seven one. Three four four zero eight thousand eight seventy or email talk at houston matters dot org you can also reach out on twitter at houston matters Also ahead on the heels of governor abbot signing a second bill into law addressing concerns over. How racism is taught in texas classrooms. We revisit a conversation with an area history teacher about her response to what she says are unfounded worries about the teaching of critical race theory. We start though with judge. Hidalgo the chief executive of harris county. Who is with us in the first half of today's show to feed your questions and comments again at talk at houston matters dot org or seven one. Three four four zero eight seventy again reach out on twitter at houston matters. Judge dog good morning. Good morning i'd like to start with. Monday's police shooting as matt harrop was just reporting. Officer william jeffrey and hp veteran of nearly thirty one years was killed. Sergeant michael vance at twenty year veteran of the police department was injured while they were serving a narcotics arrest warrant at harris county apartment complex near bush. Airport monday morning. According to police the man who shot them also dead. The harris county sheriff's office is investigating as his hpd's internal affairs division and the harris county as office. What more can you tell us. And what more would you like to say about this. Well it's it's a terrible tragedy. It we forget sometimes the types of sacrifices that our leaders in law enforcement make every day and their families. You know they go to work knowing that this may be a possibility that they're putting themselves in danger and And so it's important for us to to stop and remember that an honor that and so i am just heartbroken. I was when i heard the news. Yesterday i spoke with the mayor spoke with the Chief thinner and You know very much. I know all of us are pulling for sergeant vans who is in the hospital. It sounds like he's doing all right. And obviously you know. All the relevant agencies are investigating the details but It's it's a tragic situation it really is and and and the the The thing we can do really to honor these folks as remember just how much they put their lives at risk And and pray for them in their families. That's actually a a sentiment on the mind of one listener. Who emailed us with this question asking you why are judges not being held accountable for allowing criminals to be released on personal recognizance bonds over and over again so many continue to commit crimes. Police are putting their lives on the line to arrest them just to be released on bond any Response to that. Yeah i think you know. There's a challenge in terms of. We need to make sure that the folks who are truly a danger to the community are held in jail pending trial and those that are not are not you know crowding the jail and becoming You know further criminalized or know losing their livelihood cetera. What's happening right now. Is that these these folks that are accused of crime That are arrested over and over again. The vast majority of the time that you hear a story about someone was out on bond and and precipitated. It's because they paid their bond. It's not because the judge gave them a pr baden and let them out it happens. You know the judges the magistrate judges are. They can't see the future but the vast vast majority eighty plus percent of the time it simply because they could afford bond. I don't know about this particular case yet. But for example the the man that shot the new orleans police officer over in the galleria area recently. I'm killed that officer and injured in another somebody else with that person has paid his bond. And what we're hearing is the bail bond Agencies are lowering bonds. Where used to be ten percent. Sometimes now it's seven percent of what the bail amount is now of course. The legislature has passed a bill. It's got some positive for example. Additional training for magistrate judges But it is. It is not addressing this fundamental issue. That is you are danger to the society and you have the money to pay to be out that you will be all has done is required low level defendants to stay in jail for longer when those should not be the folks crowding our jail. So you know working at the county to make sure. Is there any additional information. We can give judges additional use of ankle. Monitor's pretrial services. You know what else can we give. But the truth matter is This this this has been sort of Politicized and And what we've we've already tried a philosophy of lock them all out You know just Iron-fist type rhetoric. That happened back in the eighties. It led to mass incarceration It lead to unnecessarily tearing families apart and right now we need us smart policies and that does not involve Sort of using judges as scapegoats. When we know that a lot of what's happening is people simply deal with afford bail in bills passing the legislature. That are in large part. I'd give away to the bill bond industry because they still allow For folks to simply be able to pay their way out or crowded. Jails are another concern. The harris county deputies organization on monday announced a class action civil rights lawsuit targeting u The county commissioners sheriff gonzales and the county itself on behalf of deputies who staff the harris county jail and who say they are so understaffed that For example they are unable to get bathroom breaks. They're also frustrated by what they see as a growing rate of assaults on guards and drug abuse among inmates and according to one of their attorneys. You've knowingly underfunded the jail. What's your response to that are. Are there any plans to provide more funding for the harris county jail. Let me just because we just talked about bail. Let me let me take a step back for a minute on that topic. One of the things we did Twenty nineteen was misdemeanor bail reform. And that was because the the misdemeanor bell system in harris county was so Disparate so unjust that it was unconstitutional routinely. People who had money would walk out for crimes that are accusations. low level. obviously misdemeanors that others. Who didn't have money had to stay in jail for you. Know days weeks months And so that was done with the federal court. There's an independent monitor that has been studying the impacts of misdemeanor bail reform and has found that you know letting low level folks go back to their lives and comeback to trial works just fine. Recidivism has an increased because of it if anything it's gone down They just produce another report like last week. It's the third one and they've all found with the same answer. And it's an independent researcher from duke university in partnership with a researcher here the university of houston and they report to a federal judge. A republican appointed federal. Judge eyad and So that has helped you know. That's the kind of thing that helps keep the joe population manageable because we okay. If it's a low level thing you can go and we'll bring you back for trial. It's like you know trespassing or you know running a light. Or whatever the sandra bland type stuff Well now the the the legislation requires that passing legislature. Just a few weeks ago requires us to keep these folks in jail longer And so that's surely going to run afoul a federal law but but it. This legislation is going to further complicate. The issue that jail there is a problem at the jail. it is overcrowded We know there's a problem and the conditions are a problem and the reason for that crowding is a huge backlog. In our criminal justice system that started during hurricane harvey when a main courthouse flooded massive massive complex also flooded and then continued during the pandemic other jurisdictions have seen a backlog increase. The ours is much worse because it started in two thousand seventeen. And so what we've done is we have We created a new court I knew i knew felony court. We have a broad on Visiting judges we have brought on associate judges about ten plus in total. Some of them have have started. Some are starting here in the next week or two. We have invested in funds for law enforcement to be able to pro spook to process. Body cam footage. It used to take you know weeks for the defense and the prosecution to get that footage and you can't have the case move forward until you have that footage and so you know new technology We are speeding up. The jury process all of this to the tune of seventeen plus million dollars. And we will. Do you know whatever more We work out with the relevant stakeholders evidence based so we are very much aware very much working on the truth of the matter. Is you know. I'm emmy executive side of things. So it requires the judges to get through their dockets. Make some tough decisions and get it done The more we do a nice them Falsely the less likely they're going to be able to say okay. We have to clear out the docket. 'cause they're gonna feel like they gotta keep everyone in jail and we can't walk up every single person we arrest So there's that. But i i'll i'll just end with saying i've not seen the lawsuit I do not know because it was filed with the press before it was filed with the court. So it just tells you. It's a stunned the political thing. I'm up for reelection next year The folks that filed it know that they've been trying different things and so that you know it's a stunt but that there is a real issue and really we ought to be working together on it by guest is the chief executive of harris county. Judge lena hidalgo. We welcome more of your questions next at talk at houston matters dot org on twitter at houston matters or seven one. Three four zero eighty eight seventy stay with us. Houston matters continues. This is houston matters. I'm craig co we're fielding your questions and today show chief executive of harris county judge lena. Hidalgo anything you'd like to know from her. About harris county is welcome at seven one. Three four four zero eight seventy or talk at houston matters dot org judge. Let's talk a little bit about Cova response we received an email from julie who identifies herself as a frontline worker. Who had the option to get the vaccine and chose wisely and she says i understand needing a cash incentive for holdouts for vaccines but she says it creates a memory for the future that you don't do the right thing and then you get rewarded. She asks what about those who did do the right thing. Where's our reward. The message she says is those who care. don't matter yeah crystal. Thank you for for your work as a friendly working to to the person to ask the question and i get that a lot i share that feeling of. Hey i was responsible. I did my part As a member of this community gum vaccine early lie. Don't i get one hundred dollars and to you. I say to all all the people who are in that situation you know. That's a big. Thank you because you stepped up. And all the deaths we've had All the heartache. We've had Since the vaccine became so widely available that everyone by now ought to ought to be fully vaccinated You know they're they're they're they're especially tragic because they they could have been avoided and you know ninety nine point nine percent cases But you can be sure that many deaths and many hospitalizations were avoided because of the people that got the vaccine. And so i think that should provide some solace the fact that you put yourself in a situation to be healthier to not be You know pretty much b. unlikely or it'd be impossible for you to to die pretty much Statistically speaking from the virus of very very very low likelihood of being hospitalized. You know that in of itself is worth more than one hundred dollars to. The point of the precedent. Well does this mean that every time you know. We need People to evacuate during a hurricane or gonna give them a hundred dollars You know it's it's not a new framework. Your health insurance gives you a discount for taking certain actions there are programs. You know now. At commissioner's court where suddenly noticing there was a program that has like a cash incentive for hiv aids testing for folks. That are high risk. And i'm in so suddenly we're asking. What is this being done because the vaccine program work at listening this has been going on for thirty years. You know this is a. It's a public health model that has existed. It's not a new thing And and it really has been working. We saw a big uptick once. We launched the program at first. We thought well. Maybe we're just shuffling people from from non harris county public health sites to public health sites or from other counties to harris county. Who would have gun vaccinated anywhere anyways but we looked at the data. we've analyzed. we've passed it out and there are at least around. Twenty thousand more people that got vaccinated would not have otherwise And so let me just conclude with saying the program expires on september thirtieth it will not be extended. And so if if you know anybody who has not yet been vaccinated. Police encourage them to go get a vaccine so long as they reside in harris county may get the vaccine anywhere in harris county. Be at a doctor's office pharmacy walmart wall. Whatever it is They will get a hundred dollar cash card they can get you either virtual one or a Or physical one in the mail. After a couple of days on monday the application period began for small businesses in harris county to apply for code relief in the form of grants between five and twenty. Five thousand dollars. What more can you tell us about that program. So it's it's part of what we've done with the federal funding we've received for covert relief. I was the fact that it was american. Rescue plan We have been very quick about getting those funds out the door And so much. So for example. A rental assistance program has been so effective and so Creative that we are now. Receiving fund that other jurisdictions weren't able to spend their rerouting those funds here to harris county to our community So to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars out the door rental assistance. domestic violence issues homelessness broadband access Help for landlords direct financial assistance. And at this point around seventy million dollars for small businesses. So there's a new round of funding or grants. They're not loans their grants for small business. The smallest of small businesses and the application is now open. It closes on monday october. Fourth at five thirty and folks can apply harris county business released dot. Org Harris county business released dot org and so anybody can apply who's got a business. In harris county. It preference will go to the smallest of small businesses and it is a. It is a randomized system with with with waiting. So if you are in a particularly disadvantaged area or your particularly small business or you have not received aid from harris county before your business. Hasn't then you will receive more points for the randomized. Drawing nicholas last week reminded us of the need for ongoing flood. Mitigation projects lauren rights. And asks if you can give an update on the concretizing of buffalo bayou lawrence's. There was some recent chatter about the army corps of engineers pushing through the project and a lot of resulting outcry. Is that going to happen Not sure i the latest on that. I will tell you that the flood control projects continue to top speed. There was a concern of you. Know the two and a half million dollar bond pass before. I was a county judge but it was presented sort of assuming that we were going to receive federal funding. That had not been committed on paper anywhere. It had a conversation Or certain money from the state the state had said sure you guys are gonna get this but they had signed anything And so then the state said never mind. That money's not coming so we have found a way to make up that gap with some transportation funding The state's gonna send does it. Looks like seven hundred fifty million dollars so we managed to get them to send so right. Now there should not be must something changes the concern about all the projects getting done. As far as the specific question of the of the concrete buffalo by i will have to refer this person to the office because i don't know the latest but we can circle back. Her mom would like to know. When the county will start efforts to create a climate plan and resiliency plan herman that is underway now. the the beginnings of it anyway so we established an office of sustainability within the county. The first we had that the reason that just as in the loan offices because it just touches every piece of what we do in the kennedy right it goes from making sure we have a smart lighting to making sure that our infrastructure projects are done in a green way that we're being really smart with flood control initiative so they serve a dual purpose That we're we. We have a smart and energy efficient practices in in in our poor. You know the the the transportation of everything all the mechanics that take place over there so anyway that's been started there we're looking for a director And soon after that the charter to the department is to work on climate action. plan So you know. Obviously the goal is not to have a plan on paper it's to be able to To implement that and so in order to do that we were really trying to create an ethos of of recognizing that you know we could be very much in the front lines of the energy transition so our workers aren't left behind so that we continue to be the energy capital of the world not just oil and gas but whatever whatever may come next but also we have to do our part on on on the climate change In and you know in a way in a way the way we've dealt with the flood with the flooding so far is is part of climate action you know we have Issued new detention requirements for developers the most stringent we can underlaw. We worked with to get other cities including the city of houston to adopt them as well. are projections for flooding us. Atlas fourteen which includes climate change in its calculation and and we're challenging our county administrator And the community board that oversees. Our of blood work To say okay. Do we even atlas for outdated at this point. How do we make sure we include climate change in our flex sexual projections. We're talking with harris county judge. Lena hidalgo There's a public hearing scheduled today. At one o'clock i believe for county residents to comment on a proposed change in the county's property tax rate for the coming fiscal year while it is lower than last fiscal year. Home values have gone up so many taxpayers may find. They're actually going to pay more. You will vote on whether to approve. A proposed rate changes you commissioners next week. But but what do you anticipate the you'll hear about today. I think the best way to think about taxes in the tax rates to talk about the budget and the budget we said at the beginning of the year it was passed unanimously. And it's a great blueprint for where we need to be It ensures investments in public health in public safety infrastructure like flood control and the tax rate that the administrator has proposed in order to make sure we can cover all of this actually cut property taxes by two point two percent and Yes values have gone up. Our sense is overall You know the average taxpayer. It's it's a complicated sort of massive. But texas should stay the same or go down Not necessarily go up for the average person or or the vast majority of people. So you know. And it's a two point two percent tax cut I will say also excuse me before. Two thousand nineteen texas always were. Were seeing the same There hadn't been cuts in the past three years. We've been in office It you know three years in a row. There's been these tax cuts two years or on. This would be the third one you know. It's about supporting the budget. Which passed unanimously. If they mentioned and i support that that two point two percent tax cut proposal There is always a chin. That's where we're going to be considering today. There's a chance that the two republican members of commissioner's court will not show up to court because they have said as much that they're they're considering not showing up and if they don't show up It would be devastating. May basically means that we would go to what is called the no new revenue rate that is set by statute again. You the state very much intruding on local decision. They set a revenue cap for us. There isn't a revenue cap for the state even though they also collect taxes and but you know it they've set one for us and so If if if for members are not at court you end up with what is functionally a slashing of For example thirty six million dollar cut to the harris health system of forty million dollars if you compare it to what what what what. The county administration administrators proposing. That would mean cutting cutting funding for around two hundred plus nurses over her doctors. Almost six thousand patients We would reduce even eliminate services from public health to public. Safety is as the commissioners don't show up and we end up with This this this no new revenue situation so and that the revenue cap that pass it the state legislature means that texas can only change so much from year to year. It's a bit of a complicated thing. But basically you know because you set the base one year and you can only increase it. A certain percentage it. Whatever you do today is going to impact you down the line so Anyway i'm optimistic. We'll learn a good place but we need folks to speak up and supportive of the nurses are flood control district. A law enforcement offices You know an end to clarify commission. Today's meeting is a public hearing to hear what folks think about. The the tattoo proposed tax rate. The two point two percent tax cut and real folks to to say you know it's reasonable extremely reasonable A cut it is a responsible plan that covers the budget and the alternative would leave us in the whole forty minutes of the hospital district about ten million for the general fund and and and and also Cut for the flood control district. So so that's the hearing today. And then the voting where the commissioners may not show up Would be taking place in a few weeks. So so you can sign up to speed court today. Share your priorities And and anyway that's the happy to go into more detail but my understanding is that the vote over The proposal would be next week. Am i wrong with that. It depends on what happens day It depends on what happens today. But in theory it would be in the next in the next weeks We have these Questions for you via twitter from lex. What's the status of the lawsuit against texts dot over the north houston highway improvement project. This is the controversial forty-five widening project. And how do you plan on moving forward. After the texas transportation approval of texts ten year plan to fund it so the the forty five expansion as proposed particularly particularly segments. One and two. Which are the you know as you as you move a little bit. Farther north robbie's we still in the heart of houston harris county Extremely problematic in the sense that you know it's a massive project and it still is driving transportation policy From the eisenhower era you know wider and wider highways More and more cars. We know that that does not decrease congestion. In fact it increases it. We saw it with. I tend You know an expanded footprint that will bring schools Businesses within the sort of air pollution cloud of the highway that has been shown you know scientifically to increase asthma rates on on children of course environmental impact speaking of climate change and pollution. You know more and more cars not to not to mention the fact that if we continue a we continue with the transportation policy that fundamentally excludes meaningful substantive transit. We're gonna continue being behind other areas in the country and the world. So you know my position. Is we want a project. We need a better highway. There are challenges with the current highway. But we want it done right. And the communities that are going to be affected by our almost unanimous on we need a narrow footprint. We need transit And there there is a path forward so right now You know there still time to have discussions with tech start That is happening I am i am. I'm standing firm on you. Know there's no reason why The state needs to impose a certain design when there is a different design but is a win win for everybody and so that's where we need to land and and you know in the federal government agrees they have filed a civil rights lawsuit They have Supported our lawsuit that the current designed violates environmental requirements from the environmental protection agency and So you know. The fight is far from over judge. You have to go She is the chief executive of harris. County judge lena dog. Oh thank you very much for the time we appreciate it. Thank you and just ahead. Governor abbot signs and other law dressing. How racism is taught in texas schools. What an area history teacher told us. After the first such law was adopted this spring is houston matters continues. this is houston matters. I'm craig cohen on friday governor. Greg abbott signed a second bill into law designed to keep certain concepts about race from being taught in public school classrooms. Like a previous bill passed in may ostensibly seeks to eliminate the teaching of critical race theory and academic framework that explores how laws and policies. Reinforce systemic racism teachers across texas have repeatedly insisted it's not part of their curriculum but that hasn't slowed texas. Gop efforts to set such limits the new law which takes effect december second calls for educators to teach slavery in america as a deviation from american principles to not require learning about the new york times sixteen nineteen project which places slavery and black-americans contributions at the center of america's national narrative to notch show political bias in discussing such controversial topics and to prohibit students from receiving credit for any lobbying or involvement in political campaigns. It also requires at least one teacher and one campus administrator to undergo civics training. The law builds on previous bill passed during the regular legislative session. First bill passed. Spoke in june with melva williamson a longtime ap history teacher now teaching social studies at h. Isd's young women's college preparatory academy about what she planned to do the school year. I began by asking her if she ever taught this framework. This legislation seeks to ban critical race. Theory is not being taught in public schools as an educator of over over forty years in the district. I have never taught critical race. Theory is never been a part of our curriculum Critical serious really Theory that was developed during the nineteen seventies dealing with looking at laws it was particularly Studied and brought up in law school settings to look back to see how race has systemically influenced people's everyday lives what is being taught about. Us history how. How would you characterize that. We teach history. We teach the events that happened in american history In texas of course we have the texas education agency the ta where they have created takes for us to to us as the framework for what we teach in the classrooms. And that is that is what we teach. We teach american history. We teach the facts as to what happened in. This country takes these basically. There's a variety of required pieces of information that you must over the course of your your your school year. You need to work into the curriculum. Yes the texas essential knowledge and skills those objectives that have been written by to a That outline what objectives we do teach in the classroom. it's very broad. it's not a curriculum per se. It's the objectives that then each school district then creates their curriculum around those objectives. That said It's been a long time since i was in public school. I grew up in missouri. Not in texas but I remember in social studies. Classes history classes teachers making every effort possible to connect what was happening. A hundred or five hundred or a thousand years ago to what was happening. Our lives at that time. Do you think this new law is basically saying you shouldn't do that. That's really when you read it. That's really what the law is saying. That trying to bring that connection in is not what this law is supposed to do. We are supposed to keep all of that outside of the classroom. No current event discourse what is a social studies teachers responsibility though to students in how they present history. Is there do you kind of almost own responsibility to students to make those connections. We really do all that to our students to make that connection for too many years students especially an art. Diverse students are black students. Hispanic students are asian. students are native. Students have not seen themselves in the history books so it really has been the responsibility of individual teachers and schools to make sure that they see that representation in the classrooms Part of of what the My duty as an educator is is to To have my students to start thinking beyond what just they see in the printed word for them to want to investigate things a little bit deeper so this law would be rather restricting to social studies teachers if the point of learning history to some degree is to be able to think critically about it out. Where does this leave social studies teachers like yourself next year. What's your plan. I based off of this law. Are you going to change anything. That that you've done your best at this point in time i will say i'm personally not changing anything. I plan to teach the truth truth based on facts those facts that are found in primary source documents. Those are things that you see that cannot be disputed. Those are things that cannot be changed. It's not my opinion. It is what it is as the students would say. That is That is what i plan to do. At this point in time i have not heard from. Ta as to how the teachers are going to be changed or what changes are to be expected in the classroom. But at this point. In my mind as i'm getting ready to plan for the upcoming school year i will continue to teach the truth to my students. This reminds me a great deal of a teacher named scopes from a century ago. Let's do a little history lesson here. Tell people about Mr scopes and his efforts to teach evolution. Yes well mr scopes in the nineteen twenties taught biology and he taught that there was this thing call evolution and not that And he was teaching in the bible belt. So you know it was the idea that that people came about through evolution and not just from adam and eve and he was censured and brought to trial. And clarence darrow. Who was Who famously famous attorney. came Came to his defense. And then there was this big scope trial they also call it the monkey trial for those of you who want to look that up and are you prepared for the possibility that we could see one of those or something like that. over this is it possible. There is a possibility I'm part of and i have been participating with the education project. And i know that nationally there are teachers who say that they're going to stand up for the truth where we are going to stand up for the truth and continue to teach the facts about american history. Teaching american history is hard in some cases because there are some hard truths that this country has gone through but the thing is we also teach the triumph of the coming over of the overcoming of those hard truths especially things like slavery. Discrimination nelga williamson has worked in the houston independent school district for forty years. She's a social studies teacher at the young women's college preparatory academy. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for having me. And i spoke with another williamson in june texas. Lawmakers passed a second bill addressing. How racism is taught in public schools during the last special session governor. Abbott signed it into law on friday still to come one of the musicians behind the music. You're hearing right now. Stay with us. It's houston matters continues. this is houston matters. I'm craig cohen and This is probably familiar to you. Matt hits like you. Make my dreams made daryl hall and john oates the best selling music duo of all time. There's still touring including a performance. This sunday at the cynthia woods mitchell pavilion in the woodlands. In two thousand nineteen our own. Michael hagerty talked with john. Oates while he was touring in support of his solo album. Arkansas which he told michael was attributed to the music that influenced him growing up american folk and roots music and the blues music really in a way to find the earliest time in american popular music. You know i got a song on. There was a hit in one thousand nine hundred thousand three that sold a million copies arguably might be the first million seller of all time. It was called anytime by emmett. Miller anti feelings anti field down all proved to mean. There's a lot blues and ragtime and some original so for me. It's a record you know. I basically think you know. I look at it like it's a record that really allows me to dig back into my my childhood and kind of record and rediscover the inspirations that made me wanna be a musician and as a young kid what were some of those inspirations and who were some of the artists well it started out that. The album was inspired by mississippi. John hurt. Who's a guy that. I listen to in the early sixties when he was rediscovered during the folk revival debt that was happening in college campuses during that may impact on. You make me down. Make me of carry soft low. Make me padded on your. I got to see him perform many times and always thought he was one of the greats as a young guitar player. I learned how to play his stuff. And i had a qatar teacher. Who was one of his best friends and taught me you know authentic Approaches to to some of his music. Home you Oh that's how it started. And then from there i i began to the album begin to evolve and expand into uh as i said before. You know i thought to myself. What was the songs that maybe he was listening to back. In the late nineteen twenties when he was first recording and i began to include songs. That might have been on. The jukebox might have been on the earliest days of radio. And that's how the album evolved. Was there a particular song of his that. Really use a favorite of yours so many All the ones that i recorded on the album are my favorites The first thing recorded with saw stack tackle. The which is stagger. Libya's are very very well known blue song that's been recorded by many many people. Police officer have can that be. You can't abreast everybody but steadily he's a was stat lead now. Don't take my life. I got three dob. Limb white cou steady making also had you also did one of his classics kachriel bell who stop show and really you know. It was all about just being creative and and using this music from the twenties and thirties as a jumping off. So what do you feel. When you're playing these songs that hearken back to something you know you listen to when you're younger well. What it does is it brings back to my youth. It brings me back to To make me Appreciate and understand a bit more on rediscover y. I became a guitar player. Why wanted to sing and perform. Because i heard this music in it it turned me on and it kinda just sounded cool and i wanted to. I wanted to learn how to do it. And i wanted to re discover you know where this music came from in the history of it and how it's been such a big part of the fabric of american culture of course Music is a little different than the style of music that maybe people snow you for for your work with hall. But how do you go about trying to engage fans maybe of your old music and also new fans with this with this album. Work my butt off tour. Play this music for people. Let them hear it. A some people are surprised. Some people are a lot of people initially were very surprised because people would invariably come up to me especially in the early days of me playing the show it will come up to me and say wow. We didn't know what to expect. You know we didn't know what we're gonna here tonight and we really surprised and really happy. We really enjoyed this. And the way i think of it is that you know. I'm not out there to perform one half of a whole note. Show if you wanna hear you know hall. And oates daryl neier touring all the time. So it's very easy to hear the real thing and here uh-huh play together and represent the music that we made together and so it's not like that doesn't exist. It definitely is out there. But you know. I'm i'm representing something completely different something. It's very personal me. And when i now that i've done the show done over sixty shows when people come to the show they they kind of know what they're gonna get at this point now and in fact now it's turned one hundred eighty degrees people. Come up to me after the show and go. Wow you know. We love all the new stuff. We love what you're into and then you didn't even need to play some of those whole note songs so which is good verse satisfying for me. But you know for me. I like all the music. And i'm proud of the musica that i made with daryl. So i don't hide from it. You know it's part of my legacy as well and happy to perform that as well. What do you enjoy about getting you. Take this music out on the road and show people that that's sort of your musical life. Well i love to showcase this amazing band. I bring with the musicians and the musicianship in this band are off the charts and there's nothing better than playing with a great band. It's like i guess it's like being part of a championship football team or whatever you know. It's like this thing that comes together when it comes together in the right way. It's magic and it's it's something very special long road on hanging on world lucan zoo Through the key to this is it's really just about music. It's all real. It's about breaking down. The you know the there's nothing canned. There's nothing prerecorded. There's nothing you know. sampled this is all guys with their instruments in their kids. And what you're hearing coming off. The stages is is just pure musicianship in the most honest the traditional way possible. And that's what i'm all about eve. That's john oates. Half of khawla notes the best selling music duo of all time talking with houston matters. Michael hegarty in two thousand nineteen hall and oates perform sunday night. At the cynthia woods mitchell pavilion in the woodlands. And that's it for today's show. Houston matters team includes michael hegarty. Joshua's in andrew es and troy schultz david pitman's our technical director. Remember to check out the next episode of career frontier on newsradio eight seven today at two o'clock followed by town square earning news. We'll discuss the latest alzheimer's research treatment and support. That's at three o'clock on newsradio. Eight seven on tomorrow's houston matters will delve into lawsuits. Brought to test the legality of the state's new abortion law and other developments in our regular wednesday political roundup. 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#438 Six Months Of Hating Men with Annie Lederman

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#438 Six Months Of Hating Men with Annie Lederman

"There's like there's like a victim button. That feels good to get pushed. You know so we're like serotonin just like bleeds into your head which i am guilty of and i went. I went while on out fucking very man haiti for a second. Let's start that. Was i'm trying to think of the actual pinpoint of a because one of the guys right then. Yeah you went full man-hating but i have to remember. I have to try to think of exactly what had happened. Because i know and it stopped. The article came out. And i read it and i was like And then the chris. Hardwick article came out and was like Reading the descriptions of what happened. And i was like this just seems like a lot more of like a problem that i had faced in my life where i haven't stood up for myself rather than someone. It's someone else's fault. I then rest burgeon. Robert hoskins all off course. I'm awfully glad mother had hi. Everybody welcome to ari shapiro skeptic. Podcast my name is fair. And i'm the host. That's right. I have my own pockets. Can you believe a comedian with a podcast. Real good today. Real go a classic ours. Your fear skeptic sack comedian fucking serious interesting subject. Any letterman comes on first. Time on the podcast. Give you some backstory real quick in two thousand and something something United states of america elected by not unanimous decision. A brand new president the minority spoke and they elected a man a businessman. A man who was going to make america great again. His name was ronald note. Donald trump. that's right. I don't know if you knew this giving you some back story about the history of america and the day after donald trump got elected in new york and liberal new york city. Every single man had a target on their back. It was bad it was really bad. You sit on the subway and girls would fucking glare. I'm sorry women women women women would fucking glare at you like you did. This can't even vote way to change through the system. I think the way to change the to around the system but anyway the point is we were all fucking the enemy. Instantly women even vote to they. Were like fucking responsible. Everyman was the enemy every man it was like everybody get algorithms and there was one group of comedians who all live together. Who just bounce this fucking hatred of all males off each other and it was horrible beer and he was one of them any letterman. she hated dudes. She hated all men. I talked about with tait fletcher. We're like we're talking phone. We're like can you believe anti it's like the fuck dude. He's always been nice tour. See the problem. You'd see you you like hi. How you doing the her both roommates and they're like oh hey fuck i just walk on eggshells. All the time. She hated men. She got algorithms but unlike most people who've been algorithms any somehow one of the very very few she found a way back she found a way back into not hating every single man for shit that we didn't do i welcome her back always willing to welcome back somebody from the edge of algorithm back to the fucking normal where everybody's pretty nice to each other. Everybody's chill comics are sitting drinking having some laughs. Hey guys all friends. Member memory comedian comedian. Very very rarely. Will you see somebody come back from fucking emotional. Terrorism very rarely. I don't think any might be the only one to be honest. My friend nate hong have on here. Maybe him too. But i didn't know when he was bad And i welcome back. I welcome back. She's fun to be around again. Yeah i mean it's great having one of the guys it's one of the boys just one of the people in our group and welcome her back. She's great she's great to have around amazing grace. How sweet the sound was was blind. But now i see yeah dude it was fucking wild for while do you remember. You gotta remember that time. All women hated all men and so on today's episode any letterman is going to tell us about her six months of hating dudes six months of hating men before the episode real quickly dates. I'm going to be in nashville. September ninth through eleventh god. I hope that. I don't dishonor the brave americans who died fucking pushing papers around their desk on that fateful morning in nine eleven heroes every one of them even though they're probably beat there a couple of them beat their wives that morning but anyway hopefully i'll steer clear of that. I'm not known as someone who will disrespect the phone national semis. It will have the following. We can Tacoma washington with ryan. O'neal and jeff dan ryan o'neal and um edgar and then Spokane washington also with ryan. O'neal mega can do some camping. Have some fun in between. And then miami florida with Bj injustice come mc. I'm see for us V rosario so you mr chance I went to a baseball game with easy I'm going to tampa and orlando in. That's what i'm saying. That's tampa and orlando at the improv. And the improv orlando. I then tampa in november. Going to hang out with. Steve simone's over me and i we're gonna come. We're all going to have a great time hanging out. So means see went to a baseball game yankee game all times dude. Who was fucking great. If you're drinking a beer and a subway goes over your head and then it just source. Search raining but it's not raining out. Clear day that subway juice. That's subway juice goes drink. What do you do. Why drink that drink. I don't care to do as much fun. Here's my new thing. When whenever i'm under my friends gets recognized because we all have our different fan bases right so at first i was sitting there. Someone's like horseshoe sprint sitting across me. If you're a big fan like oh thanks a lot man. Luis gomez Oh yeah hi. that's number one. Every comic just entered my brother and in fact you the fans if you wanna have fun if you if you're a fan listen you're a fan of. Let's say you're going to joe rogan right and you see me or bird or tony hinchcliffe ever miss name us dead. Namus not ask the right word miss. It'll be the best. But my like joe rogan. I'm such a big fan. That's twenty hinchcliffe sitting right there. Oh my god joe rogan. I'm such a big fan and then just you have to pick somebody who seems close. It's it couldn't be better tom. There too big. I don't know who would be. I know alley makovsky alley. Makovsky tony with anybody. Anybody if you're if you're if you're c. j. o. Kherson and right next his dan soder You're just gonna shankill at school at big jam such big fan. You don't break. Though like glance at it like oh my god big jam. Such a big fan on shane. Cool hey jay. Can i get a picture. It'll bother them. Here's my new thing. So run as is sports famous. That showed the league. I mean he is sports famous. When you're at a baseball game dude. Once it started writing so they all come to my god steve his everything on such a big fan. I love the league the best show on tv. And i just got. It was all right. Did the same thing with sane. Being shamed goes in austin people like dude. I love gilliam keeps. Those sketches are amazing. And i'm like they're fine. You can't just go there. Fine people are gonna look at because they didn't know look at me and they keep going like it's like the best thing like it's fine. That's an better relaxed. They've had a long history. This is new. I love doing it. God that baseball game was funded. Shit dude a sox fan wouldn't even red sox game got thrown out starts fucking flipping off the crowd. I love sports. Got a little sports. Oh let me tell you what happened. I'm not a baseball game. Bleachers behind aaron judge wasn't for whatever reason was not playing right Giancarlo stanton falcon hits a home run and it's come and i'm sitting in the renaissance starts. San francisco's fucking it out get it. Get it close as close as i've gone but it hits about six rows in front of us and i'm like all because then you know what you got. What's your banking on. Which is pray for that bounce. You want that balance and we got one buddy a bounce high and then like i all right next to me and then just like one row up and i fucking pushed at. It couldn't get it now is about five feet away some chick on it and she like scrambled scramble scrambled held it up. One of the best feelings. I mean i was happy for her. See anti pakistani. I don't hate all men. I mean women. I like this one caught a home ball. She was all happy to. Here's what happened. Here's with bounce. Took place some fucking kid. Some ten ten year old nine year old. I guess he went up to catch the ball. And if fucking right through. His hands bounced off his skull balance off skull almost knocked him out. Look on john. Boys our instagram account. It's on The from i heard of the week and a half ago You see a bounce right off me goes up so this kid is fucking out of it. He's doozy he's like my You know like out of it. Chicks holding up the home run ball. The father of the kid turns around eight rose up and he goes. Hey give give him the ball. Give the kid the ball. Listen i was in chicago. One time wrigley field in the bleachers. An outfielder took his ball. Threw it up shoved. A man spilled his beard. Somebody and i fucking got that ball now. There was a little girl behind me and she just came down the steps and she just goes hands out just expecting the ball. It was not an in play ball so at this point i was just given a ball by outfield. What did it really do. you know it was. Just a warmup. All it's just a ball but this chick honestly fuck this bitch seven years old tops and you know her parents center down to fucking ask for it but not even ask for just gives me expecting it first of all bitch fuck you fuck you. You want free shit and this is what you're training this kid just for asa free from l. She'll get it she'll get it and what happens when she's divorced at forty seven with no marketable skills. I gave her the ball. And the guy do the right thing but me a beer. But this this. The minnesota twins game against the yankees. This is a home run. Ball wasn't even a pop out a foul ball a home run ball by fucking all-star giancarlo stanton one of the most overplayed players in all of baseball earn whatever so So this he goes. Give the kid the ball and the kids like He's looking back. he wants it right then. The fans start chanting. Give him the ball. Give him the ball. Everybody starts going. Give him the ball and the women's like what. What because you overcome with the emotion like everyone's chanting. You can't avoid a chance when this is going. Do you read. Not for the two minutes hate. It's hard to avoid that shit. Give him the ball. Give him the ball. Steve starts going. Give in. And i'm like no no actually stays on my side. He goes he goes like wait. Why am i. I don't know so we start going. The people around us there were these three checks for checks behind us nineteenth scooter pies maybe a little older and scrutinized and they once they saw people ask autograph steve. Are you famous. Can we can get a picture. id out. This'll be subtly helpful for instagram So so Give him the ball and steven. I like to know she caught it right. So we start going ki ki k bit. She looks at us. We're like lady. Nah you got the ball. You scrambled for it. You had to fucking claw. Somebody's is out to get that. God damn ball and what that kid do miss by the way he was in the front fucking row. Do you know what that means. Nobody took his hand. Nobody fucking step back into. He just missed. He failed miserably. Epic perhaps perhaps epic fail and you can reward that kid. You gonna tell that kid like hey you can fail. You had a chance for greatness to catch a home run ball. He and amid this fucking asshole had a mitt. And you can say you have all the fucking tools necessary to catch that ball. You're in the perfect position. You failed miserably. And we're gonna give you that ball anyway. Good luck with your life dork. Good luck with your life. You'll never try hard again. Now fuck that also this chick she is she going to do. The ball bounces right by should go. Now it's already. The kids touched him. I don't even pick it up. Let the kid come back here and get himself. Fuck that you're out of your mind that chick earn a home run ball from giancarlo stanton kids rusi too but he wants that paul key bit key bit chickens. No let's do get outta here lady. Just get outta here. She's like what am i gonna fuck tar and feathering. You gotta get out of here. So she takes all that she puts it into her fucking jeans pant leg as she kept it. She did the right thing. Because one gonna to teach that kid a little responsibility you catch the ball. When it's in the air right at you. Homerun ball brought them. It means you're expecting something like this to happen. You fucking dork. I hope that goes home and cries. I hope he does. I hope it's dad blames it on the woman and then he starts fucking hating women. Full circle the episode fucked. That kid fucked that kid right in the ass if you're a priest out there and you're looking for a kid to fuck in the ass. Choose that kid. find out. Find out. Go to john boys instagram account. And you'll see where that kid has maybe tag them or something like that find him. Recruitment into catholicism make altar boy and then a fuck it right in the ass like your fucking great at it you know do the fucking thing get looped up and faulk and don't worry if you get caught just transfer you it ain't that big a deal in the catholic world still recording guys. I'm going to be an semi dates. Tampa or orlando yeah Oklahoma city and San antonio's in denver. Also go to our shapiro dot com for tickets. Quick word from our sponsor before we start the episode ever get riled up j ever read the news and just somewhere. I'm so second marriage you've been there. I've been there. You gotta come down. How are you going to do it. What the drug for. Calm you down. Thc specifically for this ad read still two eight. T h c. It's federal. It's more functional and the number one name in delta eight is three dot com. What a coincidence today sponsor the number. Three c. h. I dot com got. Be twenty one an older to purchase and wise that. Because it'll get you fucked up. 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Before was the first game where i was able to afford up a ten dollar disposable poncho when i realize have enough money to live like a fucking human comedy stephen already had he was on the league for a while at that point and i was like marked told my age and i was like dude it was fucking great me and your other fucking clients steve runners. Ac went to a game and live like humans fucking awesome before the game started though in a highly illegal to smoke marijuana city of new york We were smoking smoking weed. And i have talked about this on the pockets before on the murat episode. That i recorded the intro from Cuenca kito cuenca kita kita heathrow ecuador any what smoking some guy on a bike pulls up and he goes he goes. Hey there's a cop right where you're headed. There's a cop another shit to one last. Hit put it into my Do but my type pack sousa did bike cop shows up and he goes. Where's it and i'm like holding it like this close. It looks like a fuck in magic marker. He goes whereas it and i go what he goes. I smell it whereas all bucket dupe tube in my hand with joint still still warm. I'm just like steve's already calling like you know. Starting to call his lawyer i go. It's gone guys wears it. It's gone points amigos. You got lucky. He fucked bikes off. But now now marijuana's legal in new york marijuana's legal new york for white people and black people not just for whites so now i went to My first yankee game and if you forget to smoke before you go through. There's no smoking section. So where are you gonna smoke right. Got to find a place. You can't go out and come back in. They don't allow that. I don't know why but they don't allow and there's no smoking section you gotta go. The top leaders top bleachers on either side with ends where monuments stadium is right there so it ends Top top As you go one level they start to have some netting Facing the parking lot. Take your thing out light. It suck in his hard as you can. Just go around one. Full spider stairs just keeps again. Blow it all out that netting all out that fence and then keep going cough like crazy and somebody goes like looking around. just go. yeah you smell it too right. That's the only chance. Start the episode. I don't think i have anything else to say My instagram my. Sorry my My patriot pitcher dot com slash ours. If you're this week jodi rosa's on we did a hot button topic about al shebek through replacement of shebek just on al shebek died We got some good ones. Come into janas pop. Budget pas about car racks Cup is about the Serving in korea. That's good ones. you know. Talk about when they when they thought you men do this they come at you so goddamn hard and you expected to go listen. I'm sorry you feel that way. I mean they call you in sexist asshole and you have to. You can't be like fuck you. You can't do that. you gotta go. You gotta go. Can we talk about this. I don't i is if you did something wrong. Trying to okay when you did nothing wrong. It's the worst. When puts you in a horrible situation or morally like tenuous position. You gotta be like well. Don't call me that but you want to be like fuck you can't. You can't say that. Because i approve them any letterman has their own. Podcast called trash. Tuesday i assume it's out on tuesday. Assume it's about the worst episodes of tuesdays with stories trash tuesday with lion where she's breaks down all the worst episodes of the podcast. Who's a story. It's mark norman. And joe list every week Any picks out another piece of the tuesdays. Two stories Buried catalog where they just like. Don't want you to listen to him. Not their best episodes at all trash tuesdays granny letterman dot com for tour dates at any letterman on social media rosa. That's it you guys if you want go to my youtube account youtube dot com slash fear for my special passive aggressive. Very special is now uploaded on the site passive aggressive. Look it up on youtube and then subscribe. If you don't mind subscribe wherever you're listening to this. Let's start the second episode. You guys ladies and gentlemen. This is the fucking good. What is it going. Because he was open and honest about how she used to fucking hate all of us how it started how she got out of it and it's instructive For any time. You're in a position where you're like. I don't feel fully correct about this. But i don't know how to step back from that ledge of hatred. She tells you how it was fucking cool. And she's funny to ladies and gentlemen archiepiscopal episode. Four what the fuck are we up to thirty eight. Six months of hating men with anti letterman starts. Now there's a full. Dj show going on at fucking central park over there like a full dj set. All right start the episode right now. I'm good so your plugs right away. Okay well when does it come out few first of all your podcast i have. My podcast is trash tuesday. Trust tuesday comes out on tuesday as you can see it on youtube your own now. My own is colline. Laster us to provide ski. I don't know what she goes by these days. Names up i think she just. I think they're interchangeable okay. She'll amongst a small little thing. She saw him when she came to. The conference showed little like legitimately. Young jesuit was like fourteen. She's still does looking. She's starting to look like. I'm starting to not be like disgusted with people that say she's had like i used to get very protective of her because when people were like you're fucking pedophile. She looks like a kish but now she looks like in her twenties. She would just look under. She looked underage and she would do something with paris late night where he would like once he knew how old she was but she reads she really she read his fourteen. Yeah actually to play it up too. And she was like hi. Mr sam is my mom here and my dad said down here and goes on. You'll fucking snatch let me smell your poor and in so wrong because you let yourself believe that. She's no i really. I walk her car. sometimes. Because i'm a little alone on the street like she's like thirty. I love it. Just because of someone's looks you. You put other volume. My favorite or that was susan boyle a- When she was like saying it. God you don't expect an ugly person. I sing like that's it. No i didn't i know her eyes were a little wide. So you really. Can't she at least has fetal alcohol syndrome. And then you talk is totally normal. There's nothing wrong with her record on entire fitzsimmons episode yesterday. How well he's not the best looking guy. He's i lost my angle. So the jewish semitic gorgeous nece. I love greg. And then what's your the puck us. And then i have a podcast. That was called inspiration and now i think i'm gonna bring it back because any letterman show. But i had a different. I had to get a studio. And i will have a studio by the end of the month. Resilient crazy how you had to think about fucking podcast topic or something like what's my elven obey the you wait and wait wait and then it turns out no one gives a fuck and also it's like every once in a while the angle works every once in awhile like yeah every once in a while it could argue garbage is good what else. Maybe that's the only one i can think of. Who does some specific instead of just shooting the ship this guy. Just shoot the shit with just trying to think what works well as that. Joe louis has one hasn't caught on the but it's Mindful metal jacket is just about like mental disorders. But do we want to hear about. It can get said like. Oh i i did Brittany furlan's podcast. The i think she stopped doing called the worst. Or whatever and i go to her house or was like one of the worst thing or something and i go to her house. I've never met her. Before was tommy lee's house oaths righteous She married him married other still together. Yeah they're happily married. Josh out of myers ex. Yeah i know for your ex girlfriend to start dating. Tommy lee and very clearly her. She's like like who stank though. You actually know hooper stank trying to think of a funny band. That i don't know silence those uber's thank maybe it is. I don't know i called. I called him Who was dunk. You're big on The heavy metal cruise with big joe. Kherson you on that one. Oh my god. I bombed so hard. But i'm frenzel papa roach now and who think sevenfold on that. Now they're seven dust was there. Though that's jay's favor band is about shuttled bend. Oh really yeah. I don't know them either. I got him right. Pre release of their album wants first birthday. It is funny like our friends are such kind of like nerds and fans of like. I'm not fans of things. I feel bad. I think i was like a hater about that stuff. Like when people would be like you know especially the earlier ones like when girls are like. I love telling my kid. Do you love her. Use it how to talk and make a public apology. Why because he started like swift allan. He felt bad that he had been shitting on them. So much who who like her. I don't say. I didn't like her to shit on people with no she'd better what it is. You're for me. I can't like i can't like icon for more characters so i can't stand like a human like for me to go like i'm upset. I couldn't be like. I'm just obsessed with lady gaga because like when i watched her documentary was like oh i didn't i don't i don't like her mind. Just think about like what would it be like to be at dinner with them nightmare. Sometimes it would be a nightmare all these guys. You don't want to ski wrote about this. Like one of his short stories about some guy was like my son. Love your work. You know i wanna meet the. Don't don't don't wait thirty minutes and by that time it was blackout. And he's he's he's like this. He's hit my son. He meets him and then he sees his sons look of disappointment. Because i said. I don't know what i said i said something. He's why would you introduce them to me. Read my fucking story. I'm giving you my best. The best part of manhattan. You're missing but i think that's like the lure of celebrity and stuff but i think here's the thing i like meeting someone if i feel like there. I mean i guess people look at lady gaga artist. But i don't give a fuck about music. That's not my thing. So i don't but there's certain like like painters are excited to meet. Maybe a fan of being because you'd have to break down the walls. it has to be an equal mutual. Like like you'd have to be like works like hey can i ask you something about your stuff but instead of like it it shouldn't be just iambic fan. Let's do i want to know about your process. And then it's like but maybe they don't want to tell you wanna interview them that's like when people are like can i take out for coffee and young comics. They're like yeah and pick your brain about comedy. It's like so you won't be like give you the secrets of comedy. And you're gonna pay a dollar so far coffee and it's like i like the secrets that we're holding secrets ban go on stage every night multiple times you can be a ten year. I'm so good secretly. But i can't get it on stage. There must be something they're going to tell me. There's like i've told people to trust me. Just keep asking like just. Give me what they want you to go. You do have something special kid. You wanna come on the road. But so i had i had read and when i read i probably read like three pages of it but a people's history of the united states by howard zinn and college and then my great uncle was in that book before. No it's so big. I've owned it several times. It's like so many pages this bag it's come on. I haven't read like a fucking honestly like i haven't read a book in a long time. I remember the one where the because i was recommended. Both of these at so big so wish one. You think i'm gonna get to. I wanted heart up. I shopped around by gregory. David is it okay to just even when you're not writing a paper to get cliff notes like right after college. I'm going to. I'm going to actually read a book. And then this will be my class or is the whole part about being a grownup like that. You like you just you have to just leave when you wanna be in a class when you want to read a book the bucknell. Let's discuss and i just can't read. Is that what cliff notes were four. I must for cheating just being. My great uncle was a like famous economist back in the day. And he's dead but before he died he lived in cambridge and he was like friends. With howard zinn. I was like oh i wanna meet howard's any goes okay. What are you gonna ask him. I was like hey. Can you explain what this book is. Because i'm not going to just realized that that was a good lesson. Because what did i want to take from this man who was already in his eighties like he's in the evening of life and i'm just like this like fucking drunk for sale sign tits or something that would be the only acceptable. I wanna blow. Which maybe you would on. Because of it i i saw him give a speech once and i liked the speech. Take on things but it was a big fan of whatever and it's like oh what have you seen. Those are just like one tedtalk. Never picked up anything. Let's call my people recognize the on the street and they go. Oh my god they recognize you. And where are you performing. I'm like oh it's all my instagram. And then they're like oh you're on your where do i exist. Besides i can't even imagine where my life exists instagram. That's the secret. How do you reach fans who wanna see you. Tell them that you're in their town. Some guy were in vegas. and he's kinda palms. Some guy was like yelled out his the league name. Kevin think it's kevin. Kelly is as far as what you doing. Here's where we want to see you. Where bad that across the hall. How do i not reach these people. And there's like poster right next. It's so unfortunate that his character's name rhymes with nine eleven about eleven kevin clough because it could be either one. Oh yeah the whole. Get on on eleven thing but he fox kids. I know there's so many like if you meet him there's more stuff about them. What be clipped they know. God forbid something comes destroyed. We're making these delete jokes. Six months ago got on for some joke and everyone got on someone else. Like you knew you didn't say anything or they gonna want delia. You knew you didn't say anything and it's like new blood. What are these people. When they're not with me and also knew what stuff it turned out to be not true at all. What are you talking about. Why would i care anywhere. I stay out of it and then you get in trouble for that where i'm like well because lasting trouble not posting the black square is not gonna get you wish done reposted rachel dulles al's black square. She posted one. But then yeah. But i wish. I just and then used in the corner repose for also i regretted from harry potter. What's her name that she got in trouble because she did like. She made a go with herself. She like a white outline because everything on and stuff goes why that line. So we'll be like this. Show that as part of my brand. Yeah black only you fucking bitch. While she's in she's never in trouble no. She didn't know she did. She got an a big big trouble about I know it's trouble is not real but because she said that trans to say that transformer moore born women is different. Oh your little one little. Hi ni hiney I'm a little girl. that's so funny. Because she really was trying to. If you try to be a good girl you're going to get taken down. You're fucked your fox and this is targeted like if you try to follow people's like scripts or whatever they want you to just everyone has a different script so then they're mad that you didn't do my thing have to do. I'm gonna start posting randomly. Just a green square or a pink. Which just something where you're like. What is this now. nothing. I just made it. I just found when the stand posted the purple for dave. Did you say it. They purple square for domestic violence awareness. A really kill domestic was violence because he was the when i heard the guys from the state one of the guys from the zand got murdered. The last guy. I thought it was going to the other ones. I'm like i've been waiting exactly why why involved. I thought one of them did it. I was like patrick. did you do it. yeah. I was so surprised. I so sad. That was crazy guys weekend in chicago and take a call. Somebody like i didn't have my phone. My friends some cigarettes to call home. Okay also like why would you tell me. Let me am i. God yeah yeah. It's such a bummer. In them but he But they posted like a purple square. That's just the color of the Domestic violence i guess. That's the color of their. I suggest yeah. It should be like graded. But then i was like okay. I'm aware of it. But then i'm like. What does the awareness to. What is the awareness. Do what is the what is uh. It stops you from actually doing anything. Yeah i've seen where like online activism actually lowers actual active because more people thought they made a difference. So i took care of it. I posted a square like. Can you just hire one. Black guy like no. It's so weird to like and then it was. Everyone had the square up. And you're just like what does this mean. if it's ever remember the hashtag was like taking away friends. Immobilizing mobilizing is no war. You fucking idiot your mom. Do you remember the black and white one that was for like international women's day or something and then so there was a thing where women were posting fees are black and white to like for an and then there were tagging other people to post to selfie and i was like this can't be right and then you looked and it was something about like the genocide of women somewhere else that guy hijacked. Yeah and then. Of course women here going to look as hot as paul. I posted one with in the background. There was i made had to iphone up. Two girls fighting and like ripping out and then i tagged Just lean or whatever name is that yeah what harvey absolute front of mine. So i won't allow that cut that out. I got the hook gets the dank weed. Don barris yeah yeah. It is to play on it or something. Remember the poor water on your head for. I saw challenge was that what was that for now. His allies your remember. I remember wash the documentary about the guy who used to be a football player and and he got ls and they go through his whole. It's like watch that instead of posting them. Do not do an ice by challenge. Because you do need an ice bucket on your heart when you watch that you need. It's so rough. It is really to watch the horses gares right. That is rough one of my favorite of all the black lives. You just reminded me was Is your favorite black. Live my seventeenth behind. Dr martin luther king unrelated to that guy another doctor steele deiontrez. Sultana women yasser lesser said. We need white people. Do you remember this one. Eyebrows fucking funny. It was so good. God because we need to shave your eyebrows and i was reading it to it because somebody sent it to me like with serious and i was like for a half second and i'm like yes comic because for far too long why people have had their brows furrowed at at blacks So he goes. We need your shave those off so it's non-judgmental and people were doing it and it was like dude fuck in glory to you. Wow what a and seventy goes will. I'm godse culture. Printing from puerto ricans when we were in middle school because they used to browse and draw them on bullshit. There was a transient that. I'm white but i'm trans and and My eyebrows helped me feel like a woman So to shave them off would make feel like a woman. Can i be exempt from this and people were like now. She was like all right. I think it was a setting some people put on their iphone. I-love-you in the face of someone's being creative but no you do have to tease the things. You gotta tease of the hatch. Tags all those things. You have to tease. You can't take him seriously. One of those things comes out post series fisher in behind. You just get some herpes medication. Always there always has to be like a joke. it's we're comedians. I've tried doing instagram. you don't matter. Modernism a new movement. So it's not like whatever it's like monitoring post modernists. There's like different tenants ongoing so it's not really settled till afterwards but it's like you can be serious but you can't lean into it so seriousness. You have to apologize for it so like the hannah ghazi specials to leak leads into her such now because i listened to on a pockets. She's just so fucking autistic. It's like she's actually because think of like what what is the. Did you watch love on the spectrum. It's just a little bit your honesty with a face that doesn't promote so she like others are rough time comedian. If your face can't smile able to think about it and then so in her next. I didn't watch the special. But i saw a clip of it. She said she goes. Everyone said my. It wasn't a comedy because yeah i lied. I wanted you to watch it. She goes yeah. of course i like. It wasn't a comedy special. I trick together to watch stuff like that. But i ended up actually liking alive. I felt that. I was like pretty great just like it's when comics judge on on like an american standard. What it was. It wasn't bad it was all the articles going. This is the future of comedy. And that's like kind of like directly attacking jokes exactly. I'm paying jobs. But her jokes very minimal. Compared to like her stories vecchione was like well. This is the passive comedy is great just tons of punchline. Yeah what future of comedy comedy. And i was like this is like a woman slowly quitting comedy over the course of an hour. I thought it was great. Actually retrospect i i. I realize that. I was taking personally thing and feeling like it was attacking ideal which nothing is ever you like they. They're not that good his everyone's making them out. But if were an open mic you'd be like they're better than people it's only the response to them is because you're like taking it on your own or something or making. It means something about you. But hannah gadsby was cool in the end. She was dead. Microbe regulars podcast and mike burglar like I guess he has people. This was the only one i listened to but he like does it one of his bits and has people judge which is like horrific to do to someone. I think i mean. That's also like whatever but again do what he wants. Which i'm not judging it your thing but to me i'm like i. I can't imagine the awkwardness of like sitting across from someone and being lethal do it just like casually in conversation. But i don't making it a segment would be a little rough for me on the spot. But so she but she saw autistic. She's like i think. She said something like she not for me or she's like ask burgers or something. Then if you say the wrong thing. Like i i never regret the things i say on podcasts anymore. I just let them go. And i just like trust myself. I know that i what i what i'm doing. But i have been on a couple of podcasts recently. Where i've been talking about. I've been having a lot of like physically disabled people in my audiences you know i love it. It's so good. Grows said like deformed and then it was like oh wait to form does sound mean to form and then like might get in trouble for saying deformed and then i'm like but even if i do it's just i learned not to say that. But the things they should say. There's like oh okay. I didn't know the but like how dare you. I don't get your feelings are by just. I'm literally saying. I like when my audience a fucking bright language. It's like the language is changing to the best estimate norm talk only stuff that triggers them or makes the map. Because i like. I had a joke once about A very small dog. And i used the wrong dog. Breed like are just didn't know. Yeah so i forget what it was even imagine i was doing this. I said saint bernard and then whoever was afterwards came up to me was like just you know. I think you think of the wrong type or a massive dog like i really like. Yeah i think that's it. Yeah they're not screaming an angry. Yeah but it didn't trigger them. What it is. It's like because people think they decide that everyone hates them right. Because i've been guilty of this. I've had that where everyone's against me vibe or you're just ineffective place so then you're already going in thinking everyone's mad at you so then if if they go to a comedy club gung i'm going to go to a communist i've been reading about how toxic comedy is and i'm gonna go see these toxic and then you go and then you're waiting for somebody to slip up and you just taking it so personally because your there's like there's like a victim but in that feels good to get pushed the serotonin just like bleeds into your head. I am guilty of. I wasn't real. I went while on out fucking very man haiti for a second. Let's start that. Was i'm trying to think of like the actual pinpoint of it because i one of the guys right then. Yeah you want full man-hating but i have to remember. I have to try to think of like exactly what had happened. Because i know when it stopped when you started in kurt no the louis wall was the same time but the louis article came out and i read it and i was like And then the chris hardwick article came out. And it's like reading all of those. What what does that mean. I just like reading the descriptions of what happened. And i was like this just seems like a lot more of like a problem that i had faced in my life where i haven't stood up for myself rather than someone. It's someone else's fault too. It's like people that was the pendulum swing or you know but people like look. He didn't do anything wrong. But we can agree to creep. And i'm like why. Can we agree. I for for a not a groupie but someone who wants to fuck you to her out to dinner. What do you mean like. That's there's nothing. What are you talk. I know we can't agrees equation. Be mad right now because then you're triggered on the other end but i'm like yeah just like not being triggered any of it because it's like i i have my experience. Everyone has their experiences. I went through. Like there's like. I just had very traumatizing would happen. I was like molested and then i was assaulted in high school in liar. No no no no no well in high school. It was a teacher. And i took him to court called me a liar and it was like really but it was stuff that i didn't think was a thing and i was kind of just like whatever it is going through life like who gives a share one of the guys i- brothers like my mom's very masculine. It's not like a. It wasn't like thing i was doing. But i just wasn't aware of the fact that the things i'd gone to like actually not normal and really bad so then i all of a sudden i was very triggered in the metoo movement to like. I think 'cause it was right before the actual hatch. Todd came out because the hatch type pissed me off because it was like everyone was now saying everything was the same and i'm like that's like the little thing that happened to you where someone kissed you on the cheek and didn't the guy on the cheek next to you is not the same as me getting just on by my teacher and then ever call me a liar. Opera kept saying on my rapes earned. These fucking like. I took these congess streams like. I'm here like this is. This is how the thing so i'm here and then like no. I'm here these rapes and then they're over here like someone kissed me on the cheek. And i didn't tell them not to but they should have known not to and they're trying to grab this as the hashtag. They're trying to grab my rapes and get like the cloud of my things and it was like hashtag me too. It's like me. I bitch i went to court. You all call me a liar and so this is what i had to deal with me going you guys right so then i was going like every woman that was like being a feminist. I was like. Where were you when i needed your help when i was like i went to court to save you guys from a predator like i i like yes so then i was mad at them. You still want to be a w right and kurt helped me with that. But he has the problem to where he gets his these fucking people and it's like who are these people who are them everyone's an individual. But when you do the hatch target fox with people's had because you imagine like this large group against you with the writer of of Harry potter said same thing where it's like. No i have a female experience. Don't take it. I remember my first period. I remember being ogled by men. When i was younger. You didn't have that you pulling my experience over to your experience transitioning and transitioning into you transitioning and i'm just like i'm having my experience of your experience and it's not even like a judgment on you. It's like i like. That's how i always felt where i feel like. I've kind of gotten really like comfortable with people's transitioning now like where before i was just like this is like a weird thing. That's happening and do your thing trump. Yeah but and now. I'm like oh i have one hundred like. Oh you're going through your whole whatever you need you got it. But i'm not taking on anyone else's shit anymore. Because i'm not expecting other people take online so you whatever but whenever it got triggered was like the women's march was trump stop. It was like move. But i moved. I did. I moved in with a girl that is very very vocally angry at men and something felt good about feeling like. Oh yeah fuck those guys that. I've been friends with all the time. And there's maybe like a little survivor's guilt. In the fact that i do get along with mental health very easy for me to hang out with men and then the girls an comedy to i'm i i'm successful. I'm funny. I've always done well and i've always gotten shit from people like abou- you know when i first started open bikes so it would be like the girls will be mad at me for not being friends with them and it's like it wasn't i wasn't friends with girls it was. I was just friends with a group of people that worked really hard like. That's just what's my goal was. I wanted to do it as a profession so when i went to open mics i strategically looked at who was working the hardest and made that my group of friends just happened to be men. Yeah so so then like the girls would get mad. One girl one comic open mic level open mic level. So i'll just tell you the lineage of the whole thing before this. Yeah when so high school. A teacher high school teacher. Yeah what was the other one. When i was when i was a kid i had. I had like a situation with a coworker of my mom's husband. This old man with like hearing aids trace men to a closet and it's like a but it's an experience that i it's like a repress things i've been dealing i've been dealing with like the no i know it's really weird time. Sometimes they go like. It's not that dealer certain. Things aren't a big deal but i know somebody in my family who was like who is like when when israel somebody down alley just groped him just hoops and now. She's just doesn't feel safe travelling. I can't be alone and so you wanna be like comes in there. I think he like i. I think i i can't help i was. I don't know what happened. I just remember being absolutely terrified of the but also very like a little bit flattered by the attention chased into a closet. I'm for tickle. Tickle like weird shit so then but then i was like i used to be. I didn't think i didn't remember that until My roommate in college guy come over drunk that night had to kick because he was trying to rape her. I'd like literally like physically kick this guy out for her. And then that memory came back and i was like shit and then i kind of like pushed where i was like. I don't remember. I'm just going to remember that. Nothing have or whatever. And then. But i have like like things my body that are like. I'm in fighter flight. Like i have. I'm working on it now. But it's like i've tam j. Armpits like my body i went to a doctor. Lockjaw the yeah. He's like my doctor. This chick was like you're in full fight or flight all the time like. I'm literally my body's like this guy. My teeth at night and stuff. It's like it's a trauma response which i didn't realize but anyway who gives shit i'm working on a can get rid of anything but do therapy to work it out. I do hypnosis. i've been doing and it's like really. It's been working on but i didn't even i'm not. I was kind of like rolling through life. Because i think that's how i dealt with all this fucked up shit so then in high school. The teacher that was like i went to court to do the right thing and people like they lie to you as a kid like they say. Tell the truth. I don't want you to tell the truth. They want you to do whatever's easiest and least uncomfortable right. Yeah so like meat on the truth was like it was just upsetting to everyone around me. And then when when. I started becoming like man hater and i was like. Oh finally the solidarity with women and it was funny. Kurt was always like you're looking at like you wanted your mom's like you wanted to be cool their mom and it's like you got to be cool these girls which i don't actually think necessarily correct but it was an interesting take on it that i didn't think about he's like you're still trying to get attention from your mom through these girls because i would never related to women that much like i was always like i always had like two girlfriends. Were with the girls. When i moved in with referring to it as like we're on outside seeing trade fast. Yeah and we're like there's an echo chamber in there and it's just they come home and we didn't know a weren't there they come home and they just bounce ideas fuck fuck that guy. It was like men. Fuck man that nobody was there checking checking the conversation. But sometimes it's just lets out hate each other and the minute i did feel like i felt like i was gonna call like i felt very like just doing it because it was like a group mindset right and you're right we were like all feeding each other and there weren't like we weren't all the ideas weren't wrong. I mean there were real things that were like things that maybe i wasn't the whole issue for me that i learned was like i had an. I had an issue with like pleasing people and even in that friendship. I had that with the girls where it was like. I was trying to like be nice a lot. And i didn't like the uncomfortableness of like rejecting people and stuff like that so i also got myself into a lot of situations with men that were like things i could have gotten out of. Not when i was a kid. I mean when. I was growing up even if. Somebody's like somebody. I know. Some people have said like i believe in this. And you're just it's just easier like even when you don't believe in just go. Oh yeah yeah yeah. I don't want conflict get into a discussion. I already believed the opposite. Especially oh sure and it's like you don't want to be challenged that's what it was. I remember saying that occurred. I was like i just didn't want to be challenged. And because you just finally like. I'm right finally this whole time. I've been wrong but the thing was that i got in a fight with her because i was like i started. What because she started to say things like to me. When i was like you know once the hatch tag came out and the louis article came out and i was like okay. Well he did ask you know from what i understood about if he asked and you answered and i liked what lou said in the apology like the way that he he said He said i didn't know that i was. I thought i was presenting the move question. But i was presenting them with the predicament. That actually was like oh shit he like articulated that feeling that i've had but that's still my responsibility as a human to like get through. We haven't made an agreement as a whole that we're here to like nurture the weaker i mean. It's not a bad thing. Maybe that is what will end up becoming a society. But we don't have that agreement now that we all and then also do women want to be the weaker. What do you wanna like everything like that too. Yeah what's the. What are we saying because i feel pretty fucking strong and if i look our position sometimes it's like oh this guy has this and this going on but just give it women in our society. The one saying. I really did like if a woman says at a bar. It's a joke but it's like if you want to be like he wants to fuck you'll get ten people but okay not all girls. Not all girls girls. And that's the movement arose power on both sides. Sexual isn't i think people not understanding their power understanding their boundaries and stuff like i learn boundaries till recently got to cheat on his wife if you like keep rubbing his leg guys guys but that's one of those things it's like you more powerful than situation he doesn't want to and he's he's gonna everybody has like like not everybody but every gender has coerced another gender homes. And i think that yeah. I just think that everyone has a hard time in an easy time in some places and that it's you know but there's a lot of this sort of like whatever but anyway so i just started to realize that i was really projecting a lot of the at my own shit that had happened on every man every everyone who looks like that thing the kind at or anyone that challenged me or anything. I'm like no. I had this. But then i realized my situation is actually unique and it isn't the same as everyone else's and i don't have this movement walking with me. I don't have this like that's not going on like and that's not going to help me what's going to help me is like handling my shit and learning to not be triggered and learning learning. What triggers me not to be triggered and just getting over it like getting like rising above it dealing with trauma. It's crazy the shit that i can do now like it's like don't have any problems like if i have a problem like why am i having a problem. I should never like. I have an internal locus control. I love myself. i like what i do. You know like as long as i do. Then there's no what what did you. What did you do when you were in in the. What'd you call six months of man-hating what like what kind of specific actions did you shitty like. A scene that from your roommate. Especially joe just. They're not funny. Let me teach you something. It's like i'm not. I'm here to entertain people and make people feel good time assignment that angle take whatever pro holocaust helical are the one. But like yeah. I'm listening here to entertain people here to make people laugh. I'm not here to like. Make them feel bad or feel better than other people so there was a lot of that and then i don't know specifically what i did. I don't know i'm sure people have like smith. I remember getting out of you. Oh yeah but that was awesome misinformation that. I was told that it was not my business. I was just told a story that was not the case publicly. Said something or identify with him. Because i got triggered by him saying he said to me that I don't wanna say the specifics of the things that i don't wanna like was true exactly. Yeah i'm never gonna say that again but So he said that Something about it was like in the green room mets gang size and it was like he said something. I said something about like because his audience had been tagging me like some guy was i. Can't we just smell anti letterman. See it was just gross. I was like oh. I don't wanna meet the fans i was like. I don't meet them. Creepy gotta fuck fucking like. They're grabbing my as they do and it isn't like it's not like a thing that doesn't happen jake it's going. I cannot wait to just be like have enough money to get security. Because it's just like but also it's like a boundary thing just need to tell the club like you can't let people like and meet and greet you have to be watching but i mean it's true but david i get all that too and i'm like and i was like kat. Yeah he was like he's like i get people grow up to and go. Yeah but it's different and then he's like how is it different and then it just i fucking went off. I was like you fucking blank blank blank. But i had heard this thing rates. I'd heard this from another made. I had through and it was like through another girl right. And i never even talk to that girl about it right but i have this thing. Like this hyper vigilance thing. Because i am like the one that went to court. I did said like i'm willing to to defend people and and then when i ended up talking to that girl she was like oh. That wasn't like a thing so it was really the middle person like manipulating me. Which i'm not a victim of girl. I'm like i'm like the i should have already been been pearl because she knew i was going to do that. You ever have somebody going like oh so and so still your job and you get really worth it and you're like that's nothing like my joke. Yeah we're both jokes mission. Impossible just even like you. You gotten me so mad at this guy. Double checked it now. What if i said something publicly even just even if someone is like if someone's talking shit on me i don't want to know about it when people tell me it's just like so now i have a thing against this person for something they said behind my back which is where it can stay. Do you ever write to talk. Show me i don't care Who's the stevie wonder Wanderer ray charles. One of those two rachel's blunt. I think so yeah I think rick he was really cool. I think somebody select james is talking shit about you and he's like why are you drinking Like whiskey and we finished like a bottle they start saying like you're not a real musician and the story goes that ray charles like oh man. That's talk talk talk. You're not supposed to tell me that drunk talk like he didn't say that it's going to affect my career in some way like was i about to like start. A business with this person like what's not even if it doesn't it doesn't matter it didn't get. They did a good job but didn't get. So how do you handle. Then because this is something i struggle with. Sometimes where it's like. I've wrong somebody in some way. And they want to just move on past it but then like the better thing to do was go right up to them and be like shouldn't have done that. I was shitty. Did do that. would you say like i saw. He was coming into town. And i went to see him. Yeah he was coming into the comedy store. So i went to see me there with his wife married yet but with his wife and i just was like i just was like. I'm really sorry did that. There's no excuse for it. i was. I was nothing to do with you. It's so like unacceptable. I did not have the correct. Just should not have been. I should have listened without person said to me and i still like madden was like okay. That's yeah but i was like okay. I don't personally well. No i hate it. I did it for like three months ago. The apologies like there tell you like i'm not perfect. People they tell you like hey. They might not accept her polite. It was fine apologizing to him to make him feel like i was well owning up to it just like it's just the truth like i like i always. I'm an honest person. I've always been honest. Like what am i gonna stop being honest now and like pretend i was right or whatever for somebody to to let you off is for you to say. Hey i know what was wrong so you can trust me a little more not to do it again again now and it's just like to be done. It's like it's like. I'm not going to avoid him. Pretend happen i don't care i don't like hey i'm done beating you up Shouldn't have done it your way. You don't have to worry about me. It's just a long life and we all learned lessons and stuff. So it's like you know. I don't i don't you know i'm i'm fine with my my man-hating phase my you know like because it's i'm good. Now we've fucking anybody or data anyway during that time Yeah boys yeah. But i didn't. It was just like a guidon. Respect is never lesbian. I'd known true smoker. So and how do those. How those workout during like the real man not put it on that dude or did you just they just. It was just some guy. If i didn't have any caribou or anything and then But then i remember the louis article came out. And i just was reading it and then i was trying to talk to my roommate about where it was but you did read it right run river and she had been saying how like if he had asked her she would have said yes and so i was like so. Don't you realize that you the fact that people would say kind of makes it. Okay that he asked like did want that. Like you know like i remember silverman got in trouble for being like i thought it was funny or whatever if that's the case then like he's asking a question that doesn't have like a completely no like some people have thought it was funny and been fine with it or not right now so like if i can also see it being like dude. What the fuck. I didn't think you were going to do that. But just do you know what i mean like i just. I've had. I've had it where i had a producer that i was working on a show and i was like great on the show. I was so good on it. And i was one of the only women and he. Yeah i was. I was actually in utah. Routes where but so he Yes sorry this isn't funny. But i do like this topic. I don't feel funny right now. I feel like i like. that's right. this is always like. I always try to be funny because that's my job but it's like i think things to say about this but but i but he when he like in for because i was like. Are you fucking kidding me. Like i do so much like and it wasn't at work or anything but it was like and then it was like am. I not going to be asked back. Because i am rejecting you like it is a real thing like if you're working with someone like it's annoying or google started doing plasmas. Ibm goes through. Google said you can ask out anybody one time only. But that's ever. But that's what i was gonna say like. It's the going and again that really pisses me off. And it's like you just can't like but i said i was like coming to the rim again like i texted him right after ejected. I'm like when i come back in the room because it's like i'm not gonna be like yeah like that happened and it's fine and i'm still friends with you and everything but it's like it's shoot one shah and then we're done but like if i lean in for a kiss on chick who's not into it cross signals. Whatever actually note then. It's like quite uncomfortable for me. Rejected awkward and i found this out earlier data career. It's like start talking to them uncomfortable in your like. I don't ever want to see them again. Because i was at a party at his house and i'd had a boyfriend when i've worked with them before so i don't know if he'd just thought that i was gonna like other. You're single. yeah but i was just like what now that. I'm single fucking single. Jesus so happy to be having to deal with any of this but yeah he and then so i just stay to be like. We're still cool. Everything's fine but it is like an annoying thing where you're like. It's and i think with louis. What probably the most Like uncomfortable thing was if i can put myself in that position. Which by the way out of rock. That situation louis would have been bound to me for live coverage. That's i don't think i would've told i was out of the splash. Different from an for sure right. I would've loved to have had that in my. But i like that. They were like the joke. Go on stage and talk about it. Were right but they were. But then i think the where the people's argument game was when his manager told him not to because i think he was married and stuff. But that's what i would have been like. Sorry i'm gonna keep doing. But i i already have gone against everything in two ways to think about things where it's like. That's a high powered manager telling you to shut up and said okay. That's when we look at it another way as that's his friend. Say shut up. He's married. Which i would want like if somebody's telling any fucking again up but i don't know how you look at it and then also to look at it like the guy look at as high power also like okay so then there's the why should never have been put in that situation but it's like you were but it's already done so it's like that's kind of what i was with like the woman that was like what i realized like on the way out was like like it's all about you need to change your behavior but it's like you have no control over anyone else so it's like all i can do change my behavior i can learn like i can. I can stand up for myself. Are protect myself more or not going to situations. Does that suck. It'd be great to be able to get blackout drunk. And i get raped but i just quit drinking. Do you know what i mean. I just realized. I couldn't 'cause i'm my own bodyguard and if i leave then there's no one there to like talk to on this. Podcast travel furniture. I met confessions from stockholm. And i was like. How do you travels a solo female. Is it like worrisome. And she goes. Yeah but i mean the same as in stock or anywhere. It's like you gotta worry somewhat about it's not it's not fair but that that's what it is. Put myself around alcohol. It's just like oral drink. When i just have to quit drinking and it's like everyone should be able to get blackout drunk. That's not the reality of the world. People are born fucked up there with a thing in their head that makes them wanna fucking rape. Children like people are born wrong. You'll walk around your wallet in your hand. That is just the way it is. It's unfair but i still not right. But but that's so that's kind of what i was thinking was like this isn't like healing anything there's no like and then if you were to say like well maybe we need to start like like teaching boundaries victim shaming. It's like but but you can't blame everyone else you all of it together though they can really. Hey let's start to china. Chan's man's men's behaviors at the same time you need to be aware like blossom said that about harvey weinstein. She was like you know. It's terrible whatever. I would personally never go to produce. Because what are you doing. But you have to learn that. I had to learn that lesson. I'm like i didn't. You don't realize like oh and they're does feel like a betrayal but it's a betrayal of trust in the universe you know it's weird too because like how'd you expect like i've had comedy festivals when someone's married you like there is a thing in my head i for some reason. Think like oh he's married. He saved like it's funny like tommy john again once we were. I don't remember what what let's civil we're at but he was like It was like me. I think someone else was there too but he was like. Do you want come to my hotel. I'm married. I'm not interested like i just want to let you know beforehand and i remember going. That's so weird. Even did that because i wasn't. I assumed it was nice. Because i didn't my brain wasn't even there yet so i would have been surprised if someone was like. Do you ever drink with new sober alcoholic. And then you're like oh this triggering the a little bit like. Oh i thought you were like safe in your Righty like certain people are like that. Drink soda can get blonde but other people know so. It's i assume they're married. And you're like oh yeah cheating is a thing i just don guy like. I don't know if it's if it's like one time i invited. The girl was like festival to my poems. Not so we'll definitely don't go. That's for sure. What what i was saying in a more romantic way than do you want to out but yeah the hotel room is a standard. I get so mad when like all party. Jay colin is different. Like i get mad. When i'm when i had a clear boundary and then someone's still good. I'm like that is so fucking annoying like that. I'm not lying. I'm very very very upfront. Demand joke about it. Let's just like every guy. She's in comedy that she's known at some point they're gonna start sniffing until like asking around us and she wants to that. We're friends we're french. You keep saying friends friends like the hints. Where it's like. I'm let you pick up on this. I'm not if i keep saying what a good friend you are. That means no. Unless you don't want to say i would never fuck you. But you have to just say they start sniffing like it's like maybe rogan. Joker might be hers. I forgot what's like a dog. We leave those two people the same joke. You see them looking at sandwich and like no. Yeah i'm looking at it. And i said don't sue. What are you doing. But also okay. So i think there's a lot of anger online to like right sure. So there's that anger. I have zero interest in being involved with that. If people wanna do that you can jump on. And i'm not getting in the water though they used to do it. I used to do it. And if you if you wanna see places where things are unfair for you or for your gender when it's you it's you're talking about you like whenever all the women are like there's not enough women on the comedy store line. I'm on every lineup. Follow me you don't support me. It's not about women. And i don't look at the lineup counting vaginas. I don't do that okay. And it's like what you're saying is other bald which could be either. But it's like but it's it's so like like it worth. It always wanted to say to them like okay so i have a proposition for you one you can you all pass you but no other women can never be passed or you can never pass. But i'll pass two women. What are they gonna pick yeah. I'm good enough. I should be on select. Then you've lost your argument and she'll be like look at sultana yup look at someone else. Yup but they never do that. And so once you make yourself look. It's just like sometimes you just don't get the part tastes. The part is about you. Don't take it personally. It's like communist story. He did okay but she didn't like. Yeah i agree with her. But it's so there's those things but then there's this like you'll find the places where you're not being treated fairly if you want to because that's the lens you're looking in by storytelling. Show that we had when it was just a digital show just youtube but i. There was an article that came out that said they had no females. How dare you cycle. You're saying there's no females in my manager. The time sam safer the female wrote the lady wrote a comment or something. And it's like we had seven females. What are you talking about because without and the website should. we don't have a website. What wesley some guy just chose eight favorite stories and they happen to be. That's not us women and they go. Well still how could it be. Still what are we have seven more zero. You thought we because that's what people want and they will bring back to the open. Mike thing right. Like when. I started comedy it was like i just. I want to do this as a job. I know that i have talent. I can get good at this. And i just i treat it like going to the gym. I went all the time. And i would have like there was like one female comic that like got so mad at me made this whole scene. Because she's you've never stayed for my satin like i've never noticed whether you're on my side or not. I don't have an allegiance with you because of my gender to stay. I'm at work. She said it was a woman and she and like yeah. And you're like and it's like and she does not. She's not a good comic. It's like because it's just it's just not our why. Why would i stay for your set. I never stay for anyone. Said you know i thought was kind of benefit creatively for the white male comics when i started. It's going away When we blew it there was nobody to blame so you would get better. Yeah and then. I saw other peoples of different. Whatever like oh well maybe this guy's racist sexist. That's why i'm not by this crowd. Laugh at a woman or whatever and it's like taking the blame off yourself. It can't just be i'm a four year comic. My jokes like all for your. Yeah i have to get better jobs and now it's on the way where white dudes like. Oh i can't go to hook. I am also. you're not killing. Yeah just keep getting ahead man and also just creating we can all create our own thing now too. You don't need. The industry is not real and anyone that's worried about like getting canceled and stuff like pedophile rushing to work with it. But it's also like that's what you're worried about your worried about not getting on the new thing of friends while you're white so you're not gonna get on anyway like it sucks but who cares. Make something else do something. So so it's entitlement is what it is you start going. Hey i remember couple things during it. I remember 'cause he did on. Follow me i'd unfolds. The i wonder what the post was on instagram. I don't get that doesn't matter but i'm wondering what it was. I don't know what's rhody. Bruce posing so much on twitter was a thing who's posting so much and i didn't. I knew he'd be upset if i was in episode. Mike how do this and i was like. Oh there's no way he'll be so. I followed zero so he couldn't be like whatever i just don't wanna like whatever posted like twenty times Yeah i post a lot but you guys farming. It's good at you have to take my entire name because i'm band. So they're all fake accounts pretending to be me are before me. It's like are you fucking kidding me. I'm bringing people to your site after show. Houston i had this guy's like didn't know music. Which was your. I want to tell you. What's what's your name. He's like spelled it all on the search on like it's still not coming up. I like what you spell my name out and discourage destroy all the way down to somebody. Tired him Was i gonna say what's your people can fall as an e. l. u. d. e. r. man just renee okay But were you gonna ask me. What was the Was the Remember that's it talking to tate. Wants because st louis from before then santa fe san wherever and we're both like jesus to like just like yelling at us an offer like i don't even doing wrong. He was like i just a friend or her were sober. Yeah being screaming. I didn't i it so it's like but tape would also call me screaming about feminism. It wasn't like there was so pissed too. It wasn't like there was just like one side of it. Everyone was pretty activated. This finn taylor had a special about where he goes when hair. C met sally when harassment met sally. Whatever he's just great like our and mariah hours funny and he said what thing is manage. The only ones that can be re rape ourselves. He goes women. You ever have sex for the like if you want sex. We don't know how to say no exact thing. Yeah because different him have sexism and the next day. It's all weird and like doesn't wanna talk. You raped him. The never wanted to have like oh but He goes a he can. Everyone thinks about themselves or woman was like you know i've been raped. I didn't do it except talking to you. But when you hear about the louis stuff all these men but like whoa i or someone else. A better example like someone who does harvey weinstein like. I've never done that that everyone's fighting about different things. Well it's it's always it's always a projection. It's always about you. Each person is like fighting their own thing. It's like even in a the reason i didn't like is because i would sit in there and i would hear people's stories and they would be so pushed like you pussy. You're not a fucking alcoholic. Or i would hear story and go loom. Maybe i'm not an alcoholic. I didn't fucking go one way down a the wrong way down the street and kill a family. It was like all this comparison and stuff. But i've stopped doing that. I don't pay attention to politics. I don't i just do. What i think is funny. I do that. I heard one time like early on when we just met like bill burr. And like me and we're talking by the moon tower or south by and and we're just talking to him. It was like how do you know who's the gora. I was opening for him at crackers. Indianapolis a break even week and he was telling me like yes birlik shooting and especially. It was the next one after that pretty much done. Who's like how you write about. It goes through. You know stuff that gets that. Just whatever gets you worked up in life just. That's your jokes about if it's like whatever lip gloss then that whatever but like I want to know. What will i want to ask another question for us. But i'll ask after my reaction. No i'm just trying to keep it on okay so here it is now. Let's do it. So i'll get back. I haven't notoriety. Am i gonna forget it but like What got you out of it. What got you to the point where you're like. Oh shit have taken us out on my male friends overcorrected. What do you mean like then. I was starting to be like i got so fucking mad at all. These checks all these chicks are fucking like not all of them. I remember saying to that roommate. When i was like you know what i saw at. The women's march was like rape victims. Like i saw people that are traumatize. Need to go to therapy. Like i saw like this is like remember when buck and what's her name was you knew and everything it's like you knew you signed a fucking contract you signed a story no Rose mcgowan and mentally ill per. I'm watching a six percent while out and everyone's like yes and it's like no no no no but that's another thing everyone's like i'm wearing my mental illness on my sleeve and it's like okay but also like handle it to like still get help. I'm kind of like believe women but never believe an actress comic or comic. You wanna believe you want. You want to hear the whole story and everything. And but i don't want to hear the story i actually don't want to be involved. I sat in court. I did that. I took my. I my like hits what happened well. He ended up getting probation or whatever it was. It was really wild. But that's because people just like how do we get this done. Get done with it. But anyway but i did that like so i would stop the behavior. I've gotten people fired. I've done that. Like not in hollywood but like growing up like i went to club. Med and i was thirteen in the fucking thirty year. Old guy was trying to fuck me. I got him fired. The archery instructor got him fired immediately. My parents didn't even know. I always have done like the right thing. That's gonna stop the behavior from happening and it really just people just weren't like mad at me for saying just ramasamy there like it was just an inconvenience but which is who cares wise. Everyone's first instinct to like believe them. And and i and i try to to understand a lot of arguments to make innocuous like a. Nobody's angry about this and then related to that right so mike. What if one of your friends accused of stealing a joke. You're going to be like someone you believe in now because you don't want to believe it so you want to believe like no parallel. You want the best and somebody and the same thing here. You're like i hope. That's i hope that's not the case. But then you're believing the worst and the girl so it's like the thing is it really depends on. I think a lot of it is like your gender. It's like so if you're if you're in these you're more likely be in a situation where you're falsely accused of rape. Then you're raped by a man right unless you get falsely accused. Then you go to prison by men. But it's like i am. I have been through those situations. Those are the situations that i'm going to relate to more so we're going to just kind of pick the side that circumcision. That's way bad by like we're just not. Yeah so it's like you know you're gonna and then. That was the argument. A lot of men were making like what about and life you don't care about the women over year whatever. It's like everyone's because everyone's just fighting their own fights right and then you feel like but i remember feeling. This euphoric feeling of like finally people understand me. But then when. I had this fight with my roommate where i was like. She was like well. Why is it when. I go to the comedy store and this very nice comic who was obviously raised by his mother. Okay why is it that he kisses my cheek and he doesn't the guys next manigault bitch. I remember like you stand up for yourself everywhere else. You can't tell him not to do that because he was raised by polite. Mother told him to do that to women. He's being thinks he's being nice. If that bothers you you have to tell him that. Toyota never do it again because his mom didn't teach him to do that. I stopped hugging women. Comics atop powers brought back hugging hours in What's his name. Black drought dot com male hugging in. But before that. I was like when we're hugging. Like why am i gonna rub your tits on me and i'm not going to relate to you as up just fucking colleague and that's interesting. He got handshake just like the dude. That's just like a reality. And it's like it's upsetting when you're like when you think 'cause i is a i can just be from his. I can hang out with someone and not sexual is them like for one second right a guy friend right but i but the chances are you guys are considering whether you're gonna fuck me or if you could be like or whatever and that not knowing that reality really put me into some very surprising situations and that's more of like my dad just in do the guys out for one thing. He was like shoes. He was a little different But like you know. I just never even with all of those like things that happened to me in high school. It's like i still was always surprised. I was always like what came out of the blue. Yeah because i'm just like not thinking that but it's also like just not having an awareness and it's more of just like an acceptance in awareness and it's like up to may just decide what i want not worry what other people want right and just acknowledge that they might want something different so when you start going oh shit is louie auto came out the harbor can say oh yes so i say to my roommate when she that's what we're fighting for and because i was like it's a little bit upsetting for me as someone that like did sit in court to now have people be like. We shouldn't have to go to court or anything like but you should not let you. Should it sucks. You're putting this position but it's like there is like if you want to stop the thing you have to kind of get them arrested and they have to go to jail don't you. That's what it was like what they don't do anything like that. Then you need to be fighting rights the legal system right and so then but and then she's like well. Why don't you do that. Because i sat in court already. I've already done it. It's like it's so fucking annoying it was just like and then be told like no. It's about like kiss on the cheek. Then i was like i'm done. I'm moving out of here. I was i was done. Didn't like move out that day. Roommates you cannot be a real feminist because there have been raped. I don't know maybe visit would put unaware position. What put unaware position i might have. I might have said that what i mean. Yeah i might have thought i get. Is that rumor that said that her. You're just asking. But i get why it would be like why i understand what you meant. I understand what she would be like. What but also like. Yeah you're talking about your traumas. The same as remember what i'm saying in a bill blake trauma blackout at that point and i've done like so much work on. No you're terms like you. What happens when when people start talking about the stuff like the ford woman like. I watch anything that day. All my friends were calling me like. I didn't know i was raped mike. What happened like why was that. A party guy. That's not you weren't fucking raped you weren't. I literally had all these things happen how to go to court. It's just not the same fucking thing. And i'm not saying like i wish that happened to you. Whatever but it's like you're taking on a pain you don't need to take on and it's like a nightmare and i would say that again. I think i think i would say that to oregon. I think i actually stand by that. Because that yelling and screaming that she was doing was because she wants to be angry and it wasn't. It's ridiculous and what she was doing in that moment. When i said that was completely invalidating the actual like sitting in a fucking courtroom and i'm supposed to be on vacation and having a summer break as a sixteen year old to take down a actual predator beyond and then but i mean i was successful in the sense that he didn't get to work with kids and you know you didn't go to jail and i brought it up. Marins podcast again and people figured out who he was and i stopped him from working with kids again. So it's like and i've done. I've done those things that i've done the hard things and then to be told like i don't understand what the women's movement is about because i'm not fighting for a bitch that can tell someone not to kiss their fucking cheek. Take the is being nice or tell him you don't want that. Don't look angry to be angry. get away from me. I don't want that. Because i was going through something that i needed to get through and i'm through like i do feel beggining sugar. But it's like because she never told me why women friends what her argument was against me. Which i guess is that which is hilarious. It doesn't really matter. I because i'm when i look at that situation i go. I can't believe that. I put myself into an environment like that and it's like because i wanted. I was getting a benefit from being a victim. I'm not a victim of anything anymore. I don't feel any place in my life. I'm not a victim my circumstances and the minute that i like flipped out i started making money. I found a boyfriend. Who is the best person for me. Who's funny and cool and great. Like i have a good dog. I have a good life my career. I'm resonating with people on my podcast. People are like thank you for saying these things like. It's not. I'm the funniest i've ever been. It's like it's just everything is like working out. Because i'm not i don't look at the negative stuff. Just lean into the positive. And i have fun. I have a good time and that person stops around the comedy pissed off while the rest of us are having the best time of our lives the best. I'm literally like what we are literally having the greatest experience of our lives. Jesus and it's like even some of the girls online. That are complaining. It's like you are funny complain that you can't get booked in clubs. It's probably because you're complaining much. Show funny to a lot of comics when we see complaining about unfairness while it's like you're a millionaire. What are you talking about. I've only had two netflix specials. Like what are you creek. Everyone just making everyone is projecting. Everything's always about someone else. And that's why. I try to not take personally right like i like right now. I shouldn't even gotten that he'd like about that. And why why do we get heated because triggers it. It takes to because now. I'm sitting in court and i'm having none of these people for my school came to support me. They're spitting on my car. Hand the door. i'm. I'm there now thinking about that. I'm not thinking about because it does. It sucks about where was everyone. But then you're like. I like now grown up and care for myself and i'm surrounded by people that would like would do that and it's like like that is like stomp around and be like we're for every woman you're not for me though. So how are you for everyone. But you're not for me like you can't be for everyone. That's possibility it's not and you want to be better or more of this armour of that you know and it's like just do your own thing your best. You like beer. Like i hate to sound like kyle cleese here. What what's a cease. But it's true. It's like beer myself like deer like it's like we're so lucky we have the best lives in the fucking world. I wake up every day. Like i wake up like i'm being fucking stabbed in the chest with like from a hermit movie like because i can't wait to like do my day hope fiction. Whatever i just i was in my head because i've said it before and i don't want to sound like i'm doing bits on but you know what i mean like. I like i'm so excited about my life. My monitors says you know what i mean. It really is like it's just. My life is better when i'm not like focusing on the negative stuff. I protected people i. I did what i had to do back in the day and i do it like even an comedy when people ask for my help. I'll come to you. And i want to help you. I hope a lot of people. But i'll and i'll do it to the end of the earth for certain people but it's not going to be someone that i that comes up. Please help me help yourself. Because i don't my values don't align with that. I i never went to people and ask them for their helper things. I always like earned it so to me. That's what i respect. So that's what i wanna do is people that are earning things opener someday can. Oh yeah always looking over. It's unbelievable. I was looking for an oprah baker. I didn't know that they do need for which is so funny. Caroline's like i came back to new york and like all my good comic friends have quit comedy or moved or something i have. I can't think of. I have received received opening like who's going to say i don't want any nervous. Young comic roy have no interest in that. Oh he's gone. Robot to back when i get a local player fan but she's like an ex alcoholic. I don't wanna have the same to talk about like any sexual weird thing and she's works. She's very her sobriety and she goes. Just there's just hurts bans but because anything like that it's like if you if alcohol was involved i had to be somewhat responsible. Of course that's how i feel too. Who knows what position. But that's how i feel like i. I wasn't there to protect myself is gonna happen like if you leave your fucking safe open on the street. People are going to get people. Shouldn't be robbers but they fucking are and you can't run around screaming at them they're never gonna change. You're gonna just be miserable for the rest of your life you choose to focus on positives the negatives of bad but it's like you know but whatever and also i don't think said that exact line to her. I said what i said to you. And that's another thing. People take a line you remember at the way it hits you. As if you're trying to be a victim you take it as the victim thing because you sit up to me no the way that you can't be. You can't be a feminine. i never. That's crazy line. That doesn't make sense. Unless i was bumbling but i wouldn't have said that i'm thinking what i said is that's not what my women's movement is about like i think mine is about like you have to like stop a behavior or fix behavior in yourself. There can't be like so you hear what you want to hear. Because she wants to be like you is also can be transpose one right. Yeah can't do this unless you are. You saying you saying no. I mean right. Yeah and so and then you run with it and you've made it fit whatever your narrative is so there's not enough women at the comedy store because i want to be there and i don't wanna face whatever the thing is you know it's funny how sorts of scary place because you're not in the club or whatever it is is a cliqueish bliss to right and it was so easy. Yeah congrats but like. I don't know it's just not very welcoming can blame it on gender or race or whatever but like i mean it's different now tobar successful place the credit store but like back then it like i've once fucking autistic and That does not look into mayor when he got. It's just what you choose what you want it to be. And it's like. I'm just like because i can think about it too like i gotta fight with a couple of my friends and earn a fight. They confronted move. Something and i wanted to. I thought it was bullshit right. Like i'm like this is bullshit. And then i was like i'm not gonna talk to them for like two weeks until i'm not a victim of what has happened to me because i don't wanna like come. I wanna come with a clear head to have a solution to this. Rather than less than i need to learn. But i don't have to take on their opinions of me unless i'll try it on. So that's what i do in my life. If someone comes with something. I tried on i think about it. Just do that. And it's not my responsibility if they interpret it that way. I just do what i believe in and what i feel and if people wanna check me i can think about it. But it's a story of nowy. I think the fully pierre. Gabriel said johnny sanchez. i developed deal and then They're talking about is a big like he's about to be lofted into the fame level and he parked his car. This comedy store. And they're on the back door and he just kind of runs by them and they're like this motherfucker. He thinks he's so god. Damn big now and went to his head instantly. What a fucking dick and like. You expect these people not to change. Came running back. Because i piece about how are you. Yeah and it's like but if hadn't come back if he got distracted while and they'd be like what an asshole and then only. Because i saw like. Oh yes i was wrong. You can be wrong at any moment about so you think like when people don't write you back or like whatever in a movie unfiled me right. I mean he hates me as orca. Just be like. I posted too much or whatever or or i don't remember i don't care i don't care. I have a lot of people that i see all that. There's people i've on followed that. I see all the time because i'm just like i don't like their stuff. I don't feel like people are like just mute them like i wanna have meetings such a pussy thing too but it's also like doesn't matter like it's just it's just i can like make up what anything is about. So why am i gonna make it up to be the worst thing that could possibly happen. The let's say. Oh so this rabbi in israel my marcus He would see the best in everything he was. Like the best person you know when you see like a good christian like steve simone where he's not trying to preach gio and i've gotten to the bottom of it where steve. What's your web browser. History by jackson molest. And then when you talk to a nice i really think i believe him throw him walking home from the kotel from the western wall invite vagrant vagabond. Come over to my house. Friday night dinner for shebab dinner just like an e pay. Ten kids who who's poor people can't drive on the sabbath every time a car with us in jerusalem yell mazal tov. why mazda. Well you can drive for an emergency so assume they're having a baby. Yeah and we're like all these cars maybe realistically not all but each one of them. Why can't they be the one baby. And it's just a better way to live dunkin told me about It's not his flossy but he told his me as It's pro noyon inside of paranoia so to instead of looking at the world like everything's conspiring against you look at it like it's conspiring for you. It really does help me when. I like flip it but you know what i started doing when i whenever i felt triggered i would say triggered and it's stupid but it was because it remind me of being a baby like i'm like i'm being like i'm literally being childlike. I'm like because you do. It's like when you're trading would into my head and i have to breathe it back down so the it sounds like catching catching the feelings. Human more dicey. Once i think all comic kind of do it. I was telling him story about high school. Some games sports like nothing. You didn't fucking open. He goes on. You're living it again. bad you really get into it. You tell stories and this is what we're doing. Yeah just let yourself again. But then sometimes you're not even like in the story that you're telling. And that's when it's like so heightened right 'cause that's like nothing yeah you're backing another thing and you're like thumb. I'm like telling the story with the passion of this. Who's interesting without chick. Was it after. She was like like that showstopper. Who knows how that's how she received of like. You can't be a feminist unless you've been raped or tact within a month. She got an attack she she was like i got one i can talk about on was almost like fisher wish but it is a weird thing like where it's like true crime like i stopped watching true crime because i was like i actually want to live in a world where i believe in safety right. I know i'm not but it's like you watch list when you watch it. You're so paranoid you think everyone like and so many of the true crime that i did watch and the crazy thing. She loved dateline. It's like oh. Is that crazy or did she like fucking manifest herself getting fucking killed. Because that's how she sees the goddamn world so now she's like in these dark a thrill of it but that's watch those crime things and it's like this isn't trauma for you. You're you're making your own trauma. Yeah i want to talk about how he got out of the Okay let me pull them up. I don't know when this is airing this week in caroline's but you guys missed it. It was great. i am at high bb. i I'm bad at this. I am at I'm in no that sold out. I'm in hartford connecticut in front. That really was out. That wasn't like a move. I was doing to make you guys think that there's some sold out show you don't know about it really is one. I'm in hartford connecticut at the funny bone. August twenty seventh or twenty eighth At zanies in temperatures due september. okay. I'm at zanies in chicago clubs. the seventh and eighth. Then i'm september nine hundred. Eleven at hilarity is in cleveland. Ohio show. I'm going to bring. Stephen is easy. As a surprise guest. I would say set up some of these coming and then he he never shows up. Maybe that's fun. Set up some tape. Some like high glasses on a stool. Give somebody like toy. Maybe i'll do that for national shows a toy plane that having like i'll throw i'm gonna try to not bring it up. I tried to do that sometimes. Like when i went to utah. Didn't bring up mormons at all. I just try to not do the thinks he can get into it. It's funny too because especially when they expect something of you after every my seven eight by big troubles and the people are tuning into here. Definitely not so. I think i think he became a victim of his own. Like 'cause my than someone would die. They'd be like wears chazal night but then it was like black lives matter and it was like oh whoops. I don't think i can make a joke about someone. Dying like yeah. I'm also doing the festival. What the hell's called in vegas it sold out. I'm doing scanning fest. That's out i'm going to be September twenty third through twenty fifth. I'm gonna be in north carolina and a good night's and then i know i don't how to say it so just skipped it and that'll be in texas the house of comedy november eleventh to fourteenth house of comedy the amazon. It's in plano. And then austin john just go to my website. I think it's on a different also comedy. It's tammy yeah i was at. The sandbox was worth bill. We only see the gender. The tara i saw both. Oh yeah so now. You're coming out of this thing. It's hitting you like a hawk because by the way i knew a comic told someone other comic was like. Hey i actually don't think hard richton anything wrong. But i'm known as a feminist so i can't say that you're like damn i don't comment on anything publicly ever on its. I don't give a shit. I don't need to talk about it by a fun job. I'll say it on stage. Live like i don't know it's fucking. Speak a statement on some other comedy. It's just not my business. And i mean if it was maybe my best friend or something. I would have to do something but it's like it's just not it's playing into this. This is all not real. This is all on the internet. So if i play into that like the internet is a place for me to like. Tell jokes and dates. And that's it. You know sometimes look you pictures. There's a joke. I but it's like that's about meta modernism so like you can. You can be You how this idea to you can be sincere. You have to couple with joe is of course. You're on a hike right like this is a really pretty picture. Your common cancers plus you have to post sheriff or something like that or tag right something like five things happening in such a fun place a little bit dog. Those beautiful sunset. So it's like has to go right. You're actually also can't just can't be that sincere. No yeah it's like. I don't post like i don't i'll go in my pictures but i'm not gonna post like like i saw post like where i- photoshop asset really big and my waste really smells a joke. That's both right. But what fucked up was my. I hired a guy to do my like my internet stuff marketing and he did something where he just sent that picture. I've like my. My followers have seen progression of what i'm doing here. I'm like making fun of like an attention or whatever. He just said that out to random places that were like come see me in arizona. Arizona's like that's not gonna get any comedy fan. Yeah there's a whole thing i'm doing. It's like my instagram is bought. Whatever it's like one for a comic it's always like a bunch of new. People are shown this thing like when. Trevor noah these racist tweets might want anyone reading that now is not reading open-minded minded. Is this racist or not. Not how you read it. But to dot. Trevor noah when he got the daily show. They're looking racist. I see what you're saying. Yeah talking about him with simone. what's her name. Some biles some bias. They always call me like they they the reporters will be like what are you. They'll be like what do you what do you. i don't. i didn't even know what they were talking about. I don't pay attention to it. I'd like as my friends are in trouble. I don't. I'm not going to know what hell is going on. I want to add fire to open mic. I thought that was hilarious. Tell someone can't say something ever. Why would i want personal running. I don't like what they say. That's just me not liking it. Just my favorite joke. I mean like another one. You might think why would even comment. I'm just like the so. Many jokes see a comedian. I see hundreds of jokes and plenty. I don't like comedy. Just say whatever the fuck just say we want but especially in comedy when it's like there's no malice by it's like a joke but so it ends up going like you'll have this outraged and so it gets pushed because people love pushing some. They're angry to push people don't know they're even a comedian or the back story of the big pictures so when it gets to someone else like what is this. Why is it bubble. Beg and it's like yeah. You weren't here for the senate saying yeah so like of course you're not going to get it. It's just so yeah it's like but you know what i did This was when i was really proud of when member. Everyone was doing the old app. And they're gonna phase look old. I photoshop. It so that my tits like we're really saggy. And then i gave myself like it was really. I try to win Do not mean. I'm like i'm gonna win this hashtag. The gross in a fun way. Yeah so you're out of this. Now you're like at this point you're like oh shit. I'm seeing this wrong. My man-hating has been like. But i also was at the way. I was thinking at that time. It's like it's not right or wrong. It's just like where. I was at. And like where. I was turned off a lot of fucking people and it turned on people that i'm not really interested in during on anymore. You know like we said about truck tropic. Tragic trudging but the stomping around shopping. Around where it's like it's just like it wasn't pleasant to be around him. Yeah yeah and so. It's like for the people who didn't never do. But it's like yeah. Yeah yeah you you wanted to switch that. Yeah and it just. I was just in a thing where it wasn't and i was so anything that i wasn't aware of my surroundings when it was sort of it. It was time for me to be like. I don't fucking care about my surroundings. Like i don't care if these people like me right now because right now i'm just this is about like whatever i'm feeling and that was like okay for me. That was like a thing. I think that i needed to go through. Because i needed to feel like i just needed to just be on my own. And and then but what. I realized that i was getting gassed up by this kind of like. Yeah yeah and then when they were your victimhood you're more likely to say how bad it was and like maybe you didn't feel that way but it's like no. That was really wrong. What happened not. You're wrong that happen. It's going to happen but they also already happened. So it's like now here. I am so it's like i can't keep reliving these things like i realized when i was like that i i was thinking about that teacher and he was a white guy dreads smart. But it's like. I was thinking about him. Every day of my life does not happening story some guy with a like that guy dread so to distance him from the truth but he did here. But i know. I know and the rest was the lie to. I'm but so. But he. But i was like dragging him like with me throughout my life and it was like. I just don't want that anymore. Like this person exists on the earth. You know like that's just the reality of it. And but i don't hear is fucked up. That's him that has nothing to do with me. And i've blocked his ass and you know like he's not hopefully fucking kids anymore now hopefully but you know he would have been out of jail anyway even if he went but he got humiliated in front of everyone. everyone saw. And i'm very proud of myself. I think i did a good thing and it just. It doesn't need to be and if other people can do that's fine but it's just not my business like i think when that women's moving was happening it was like everyone has to speak and it's like i can't take on the traumas of the world and like whenever i would tell the story like i don't really tell the story anymore. I used to like kind of trauma. Tell it and then as ptsd. Like i see people do it with even moments in their career Where they'll like something. They didn't get fired from job and they go over and over like ptsd. This is like you're reliving it and when you were living it you're literally ruining your career like you're re you ruining the the movement forward by like keeping yourself in it and but anyway so i was just like pd. But i've i've worked on it so So that. I don't do it and i noticed that when i'm doing it but but one of the things that really sucked about it is like you tell your story Like i told it on merrin. And i would get all of these. Dm's from people being like. I was like these rape now. That'd be great awesome but like but no it was like it would be people like oh i was. It's like i can't now. I got to hear about your rape to like. I don't wanna like it's enough lake. Everybody has to handle their own thing. And and like you know you. Try to protect the people in your life. Like if i end up having kids or when i'm around my nieces and nephews i'm i'm a different type of protective than my parents were to me and you just like this can affect someone. Just make sure you know that. They're like a my. I is in a different place in my parents. I was because things like that didn't happen to them. But when you're trying to create it it's like you're creating trauma. I couldn't be the ford thing. I just turned my phone off. I couldn't do god. I got so worked up and it's like neither of us know what i was a long and it's i'm not saying like it's just but it was just like i can't with all these. It's just like like i. If you would ask anyone. I know is there a statue in charlottesville. I'd be like i have. Why now to anger about it or not anger and it's like this doesn't affect our lives. I'm not passing even know about you know about it. That's your white privilege or that's there about that. I don't wanna know about it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry it happened. I don't want to know about it. Like i can't like i just can't take that's why i don't watch the crime anymore. I really like. I really enjoy life. I think we're very lucky to be here. I think especially as comedians. It's like the fucking coolest job. I'm literally like. Sometimes i don't know if i'm dreaming or awake it's like it's so good it's pretty fun. That's the thing too. It's like anything i've lost. You'll it'll help you stop and you look at like someone who's not brennan soglo and you're like i'm still doing way better than a funny comic but it's like how are we gonna complain to him and he'll be like you're crushing it more than me. You headlining clubs but also just like maybe your life like maybe like okay. So if you've gotten truly cancelled where you weren't allowed to ever perform again or something you would find something really cool if you if you have the right mindset if you have the right right mike. Stop you on fairly. It's not unfair because life just happens how it happens right. There's no fair or anything. Because i look at some of the people that get cancelled right and some of them are gonna back car accident. You'll actually it's just shit happens. It's like you're carmen in life. It's like sometimes should just happens like that and it's like like when i fly first class or whatever i just think that like do i feel guilty about the other people. Don't why bitch. I always feel like. They would know that. I'm not supposed to be there. Well yeah nobody nobody. If we're supposed to be the worst piece of shit in the world right it's like crazy babies and first class and like you haven't got enough for this like used to always give me the the first class bump up like how much to bump him up for one hundred twenty dollars and he's like sweet one time he goes It goes there. Were like nine hundred eighty five dollars. See landau someone's i pay for. Sometimes i'll pay like a crazy amount. Because what i'm doing i'm like i'm going. You know what. I'm going to choose that the work that i did hear was so that right here. I can have a pleasant experience where people are a little nicer to you people there. Yeah exactly so. It's like it's and i could save that money donated to a soup kitchen like you're not donating them soup. Kitchens that people that are mad about it. It's like what are you doing. And i'm not saying that my money doesn't go to but also i've never donators so kitchen. I bought them soup. But let's say. I've been in the kitchen kitchen before standing up over the trash cans but i don't know i never like i don't know sometimes i just want to spoil us but it's like but what i had to get to in Was feeling guilty. And it's like i'm like it's like attaching myself to everyone else and i do think we're all like a unit on earth panja plus one is. The license was just outside. But it's like do feel bad for some people that mike's not fair that they're not a working comic but there's something they could do right like an it's like there's something they do and they would need to figure it out. It's like you can't like help people. Cia unity men unless they want to. But what lucky. When there's the internet what are you talking about. You have to resonate with an audience if you. Because i was talking to josh potter about this. You know josh so funny. But we're talking about how i was. Thanked him like we have like a currency that is so valuable which is podcast listeners. Because they're invested in our lives they wanna see us. We're not like when we sell them. Merch were not tricking map. Do you know what i mean like. You're not like we're giving people content that they want like a accountability thing they can relate to. It's that so much more. Valuable than like a spa having his episodic or whatever yeah it's just like nothing it's like we have something that's like we could develop and we can grow with his audience and stuff like that. You can lose them. But that's new. That's like are you relatable. Are you being yourself. Are you being something. people like. You can always find a and it's not about like having the best graphics on your thing you know you can get there. You can like eventually make enough money on your podcasts to do like that but it's like there's no like real excuse to not have something right now of you can have some anything that you want. You can have it yes. Just people aren't into that kind of style or whatever or they're like a victim of their circumstances or it's like easier. It's easier to be like. Oh i didn't get because of this or i'm not lucky it's like you make your online but also it's not even like is viewed as like trying to get ahead or you're trying to do the thing you want to do. So even if it's not popular. But you're creatively fulfilled. You're doing but it's not making me millions. There's only make me if you wanna make millions. You could make millions but you have to like thing. Yeah you gotta change a thing that you're doing and it's like if you want to do it. It's like all my friends do the things that they wanna do esters and tv shows and stuff. It's like everyone i know. Just gets the things they want if you really want everybody else comb like but you can't. A trailer to me is like a nightmare. That's the same you would do a sitcom we're stand up fuck off your people get. I don't know who loves sitcoms off. Maybe they maybe they get the attention that they get. That's the type of date but they admire stars like for me. I admire like art more. Do you know what i mean. I don acting to me is not an art. Is interesting to me in any way or i would watch plays and uphold sleep. But it's like i like to me. I love comedians. i like visual art. Really yeah but i can be impressed by that so i so i will value that and i will but that's what i like. So that's what. I strive to be good at draw my merge. I don't feel like i feel so. I feel like i'm giving like my art. It's like i don't know that's just those are my values but if someone else likes that type of attention i like to get attention from like. Oh drawing it's a joke. That's just what i like. Yeah so dora. Best of everybody else i like. I like people's if like where my brain goes. It's interesting essentially had only six months when you could've caught it for like ten years. I'm so glad. Because i think i just i had. I didn't realize like i was like kind of repressing in like It's funny all these things happen to me And then it turned into this thing where it's like everyone's had something happened. And then i was like wait a second. Nobody has what has to happen to them. They had different things happen to them. But it's not the same as me. And then i'd like being like wow. I had a really fucking crazy childhood. That a lot of people didn't have and then going like oh but i also have because of that because my family like. Let me be free like that. I'm a fucking comedian. Right like i got molested. But i'm hilarious and i and i do like i do what i want you harvey want. The pat was listening to miss pat story in montreal show and somebody leaned over the shoes. Say she got right by her uncle. Yeah and it was like but she didn't she was doing joe. Almost like didn't even notice it just like my uncle's dick's malak wait. I'm not gonna sit in the pain. I'm going to use it as or i'm not saying it's corey but it's like but i like okay so like i really do because we just put the bar sports and they were they were like i wouldn't have earned this but this is the ebony and ivory of not giving a fuck medians but i do agree with that because i'm like i ran for my life. I was like in jersey city running for my life. I had a lot of like crazy situations hers to get shot but actual ankle. But it's like but you know what i mean it's like do i do appreciate people. Because everyone has a dent or whatever's wrong with them by do appreciate people they can make it funny and like because i can tell when i talk about like any of the fucked up to that happened to me on stage. It can kill or it can. It can get weird depending on how. I'm presenting it and where they've they've seen me throughout the set so if i'm if i if my face gets mile then i'm like i'm like do not feel bad for me. My life is better than you look killing it merges out. He was this angry character. Guy had today who start off that way and people were like. Why are you so angry. I learned he's done a lot since then but he just learned how to like smile. A little bit like joe. You're and the people totally got a little tweak. But what's been happening with me like now that i can like do it in a in a way where it's funny and talk about all these things people come up to. I had a summer. Thanks for talking about it and it's good it's cool it's like ours guys. You're getting like you're talking about getting on say. Yeah that's a good one and then and then they. It's like cool. Because i'm like. Yeah and look. We're all doing good are we. We're all fine like you can just sit in like the guy could be mad at my parents or i could be like. Oh my god my parents are fucking awesome old. And i'm having so much fun with them and we laugh all the time like yeah. It's great. yeah you'd be like yeah. She'll but turned out turned out. I had doctor when i was my worst depression. He was like what's good about it. He made me say what's good about my depression like the things that would help me with mike. I look at the world more realistically that helps with stand up. I guess what else diffuse defense. It's like your body would like helping you. Not what can be good. Get some benefit out of it. I think like it's like all bad. But it's i mean it's it's all both you know it's like whatever but it's fun. Glad you're out of it. God damn annoying. But yeah i forgot about it. You mentioned that. Stand six months. Oh yeah he was kind of fun. I we're one of the guys. But like one of the comics i guess. Yeah that's who you're normally are so it was like the old roommate and i want the smiling you back. I never met. That one was so fun. But you know what it is with her too though. I like what. I bought it with almost shit talking shit but not. Don't take it in. Yeah but then it would be like. I like talk to her at the comedy store where i was like. Why are you stopping dude. I don't worry nobody. There's a friendship here to be had. But it's like you're like stomping around. Like i'm like dude. You wanna tell me what you're upset about. And she goes no. But you're saying you didn't talk. Should i want the regular now this sort of you. Some common called me. Let's talk about. I mean i i catch me off guard if you heard it for sure i did but i mean it's actually about all my i don't know who told you it was probably funny like i had. I had a a friend another friend. Confronted minimally yeah well without cadence and punch lines. It sounds good if you literally heard the joke. I'm the butt of the joke. It's so funny. I wish i could tell you but it's too dark too secretive but it was so i was like you remind we have a great job. Bit you don't tell her. We're comedian so evenly talk shit and even when we're mad it's going to be. There's going to be a sing song and lyrical part to it. The reason the chicken cross the road was who the other side look interesting. What wasn't that's what. I'm here to find out Annabel but anyway. So find. Jesus god will lead the way make up a storybook raped and tell her on instagram. I'm sorry tell me you could tell me at the end of the show. Just say like dobbs but let's not get into burs and raped. Go up to after touch. I of just let you get back there but the cape right here. All right. My comedies. Like jokes brahmins to her sister the episode. Thank you very much any. 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You can also see I upload new podcast. Your fear dot com. We see. there's youtube. Does the spotify link youtube link apple. Podcasts link direct download link The music choices are all in there. I don't know what else i'm gonna have fun. Man eater was obvious. Now i gotta go do some research and figure out what other songs can use. I'll just tell you is My process is usually almost always do the i the podcast vendor the in toronto and then look for music that would go perfectly. I used to do during football but now not anymore man eater for sure. That's going in between the intro and the fuck in Conversation hating men. I hate men. What is it. There might be a note. I have in there about a song from any there might not. I don't know what other song show us. Well regardless by the way all the people that are submitting these fucking tour photo shops for my instagram is dot com slash origin. You guys are killing it. That dude who made the so. 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Steelers Hangover, Part 1: Steelers who may bust the bubble and escape trouble

Behind the Steel Curtain

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Steelers Hangover, Part 1: Steelers who may bust the bubble and escape trouble

"This episode is brought to you by. Hp instant inc. No one is reading your mind. But hp instant inc knows when your printer is running low and sends new cartridges before you run out so you never have to think about inc for details visit hp dot com slash instant inc spotify conditions. Apply pittsburgh steeler fans. Welcome once again to the steelers hangover. My name is brian. Anthony davis alongside me is shannon white in our friend. Tony deaf ito. Gentlemen how are you tonight. Let's start with shannon. What is up in west virginia. My friend it's been hot to the it's made up in the mid eighties and you know so it's been warm but we're having a good one. I'm looking forward to tonight. And i don't know why. Why am i Computer just did that. That was that was really weird. Tony how are you. We're having some technical difficulties with tony tonight. So then everything will be fine. I'm sorry that's no problem. We'll would see what we See what we have here. I've got frozen shannon. Do you have tony frozen still. Yeah he's all right so attorney. We'll have tony work on his His connection and we will just welcome you to a monday. How is how's it going tony. How how day. My it's just like shannon's mind is very hot. And we've got. We've got tony frozen again. So i'm gonna drop tony off and see if we can get that fixed in if i could see a moving around again. We'll bring him back and Internet's like that these days. So it looks like tony's trying to trying to get that fixed and we will see what we can do with that so shannon so we had a very eventful week last week in steeler nation. So we have not had a chance to talk about that as well so with everything going on of course i think the number one piece of news that came out of steeler nation last week was the fact that the nfl is approving alternate helmets in two thousand twenty two. So i think that's the top news. Wouldn't you agree. I thought was going to say decastro but decastro guys helmets now. That's important too. So yeah i wanna talk about that real quick. Let's let's have a little fun. We're going to definitely talk about the the big news of the week. But you know they're doing alternate helmets. So we're gonna see the cool white helmets of the patriots again. Possibly the old seattle helmets. Maybe the houston oiler. How much are going to show up in tennessee. of course. the creamsicle. But i would love to see the steelers not only bring back those gold helmets for maybe thrown a white helmet with the that white helmet that they've had as a concept before would just the same luck but making it white. That'd be awesome seats of great concept helmets that i wish they would even try. I mean i don't wanna change irregular logo designed because they got the best uniform the nfl. But i am prejudiced. That way i guess but But i would like to maybe see a white helmet. You know. change it up a little bit. I think that'd be absolutely fantastic as well but you know the most important news is david decastro and that is something that we have talked about like crazy and i would love to hear your comments on that shannon white not just david decastro but talking about turner as well well. Last week i was talking about. I was concerned where they smoke. There was fire. And with the castro. And i would just last year. They was just such a. He had a drop in enthusiasm He just didn't save the joy the game like you always say in the past. He's not a raw gabonese that saving like he was enjoying it like he had the before. Being injured will do that. and and bone spurs something that that is incredibly painful and there's really He played through it. You know he's a tough guy. I mean we knew that. But i think that He because of you know how much he was gonna count against the cap your salary and the fact he was going to be able to be himself Probably missing the good portion of the season. the stars had to do what they had. Today they were actually kinda lucky. Trai turner was still after a guy with five pro bowls under bailed and I think that his bad season last year You know he was traded. It might have been shocked him In the middle of a pandemic move across the country you know we don't know how that affected his family That situation With the protocols he he didn't have time to bond with these teammates and same in With the chargers. And so i think there was some. He also injured and groin. Injury is devastating for lateral movement for landman. So i think there's a lot of extenuating circumstances and the stores right. I gotta steal for Three million a year. What do you make of the fact shannon that a lot of people are saying that trai turner was brought in as as just a knee jerk reaction now. I don't agree with that because you're they had six days to him and they had some time but for me as we try to bring tony back in here but for me i think they have plenty of time with it without a find out what they really were going to do with david decastro. They had six days from the time that he came in with trae turner. I don't think this is a reaction to you. Oh no i mean. I'm sure they've had him in mind for a while. Had around him at least and You know at this point of the offseason. You're looking to get Maybe some real team friendly contracts guys are starting. they want to get into camp before At the beginning of training camp not in the middle and gets a preseason under the bell time to learn to play book so a lot of times. This is the time of year you could snatch up a street free agent at a good deal and i think they had their on him already. They was a report out today on. Twitter that That he was being brought into Maybe for you know to put some heat under Kevin johnson that he wasn't he shape at me and i said that was nonsense. I mean s any clips of eamon him working out in the off season And the guys showed of thought phenomenal safe and saw that was just a rumor of click bait reporting and goes i think he's re he's reading go and he He said that was nonsense Say off he said that was true but Yeah i think that they had plenty of time to vet turner and And it just worked out in their favor. They got lucky absolutely and let me go ahead and i brought up his comment on that because west brought that up. Dave shipley gives us five dollars in. He's bringing that up as well inside. Rumor has they brought in trade. Replace sixty nine. I heard the coaches are ticked off at him and he got three weeks to figure it out. You know what remember right when the season ended and you have an inside source that said that t. j. watt stuff shipped home to wisconsin and tj like. Yeah that's a bunch of crap and now we're seeing kevin dots and say. Hey this is who i am. I'm training with a yo. That's news to me. Basically because he he has responded. You know. I don't. I am not going to give the source of that story. Any any run whatsoever. But that's you know that's trying to create a story if he asked me because i mean we don't have to say who our sources are but come on that's to me that's going after player and i we ha- you you're right. We have seen clips on him. We we have seen. I mean he does look good he has been a amp up his workout routine. And that comes in. I kind of hardly doubt that because trai turner was brought in. Because of david decastro situation david decastro was on the sidelines. Was not talking to report was not available for reporters was not involved in mandatory minicamp. It was great that he was there and in fact the fact that he was there and i was on the show last week saying absolutely positively. There is nothing to the story. David decastro is going to be playing two thousand twenty one. And he's going to be counted on to be the anchor of that line. I if you know anything about me. I'm going to be the first one to tell you that. I was wrong and i will not let you tell me that i was wrong. Why because i want to say. I gotta wrong. I mean yeah. If if if somebody's you're stepping in something there. It was the last week i stepped in something because it just did not it. It seemed like a lot of people were were worried about. Nothing seemed like an overreaction. It seemed like You know the sky is falling in you know. Sometimes the sky does fall. So i was absolutely a wrong on that I don't think there's anything with kevin dotson rumor and in fact it offends me that that i it's like that that used car salesman. That that nosy. Sony of the lemon and laugh the minute you get off the lot and takes your money and then when you go back to see him. Oh he's on vacation. He's in the back with a customer. He can't talk. We give used car salesman salesman a bad name. I know a lot of good ones. You know i. I know a lot of good ones on a lot of things. But man that's The blogger there were that reporter. They're gonna check your credentials when you're thrown some stuff out like that with that being said though you back to trai turner bob yeager says turner's a wildcard. Turner could be anything from this year's with new ski hoops brother up could be living on struggling. Grain hurts today. could be anything from this year. Which was a disaster like flows adams a solid job for the steelers in two thousand ten. I love that you say that. And i agree with that. And here's here's the thing you alluded to it that you could get a bargain and june but when you signed dwayne haskins back in early february or was it january when they signed wayne haskins bringing a guy like that. It's perfect i love that signing because it's a minimum deal and it's not going to kill you if it doesn't work out sometimes you're going to throw stuff against the wall to see if it sticks. You're not betting. The farm dwayne haskins now trae turner situation. This is. it's a little more important and you're not citing for the minimum but one year three million dollars what that means is. You've got an opportunity to see if he can work for you. There's also they've got a backup plans for their backup plans and i can guarantee you they do. There's there's one assessment that we're going to try to bring tony in here. Who's been checking his connection. Tony how are you. i'm good. We're still struggling with a man. It's i say it's it's a bad internet night. In grafton i gotta tell you so but i don't think you're coming. Are you there. Tony i can hear you got perfectly fine. Yeah that's really weird shannon or you're come in a little better but he still phrasing labor once in a while but okay we'll see we'll We'll see if it works if not We'll give tony the night off but let's go ahead and try to give this. He didn't crack a smile. They're frozen on my end. But let's let's see how this works So you know what i'm looking at here is. You're giving them three million dollars. Which is i mean. That's a good deal for a guy that does not have a job in june. That's a good deal for a steelers that hat that They're looking at this guy. Come in to be a starter. If it doesn't work in the i've got to go back up plan for their backup plan. you know. there's guys that you're hoping the kendrick green is going to work as a center. If that happens you've got bj finney and look good or bad whether you're excited about bj finney or not. He's much better center. Excuse me a much better guard in the history of the steelers then he has been a centre. Tony what do you agree with that. Absolutely he was very valuable here before. Twenty twenty where. We're we're still having trouble with tony's audio so i guess what we'll do is tony. I'm just gonna give you the night off. Because i'm not sure why it's not coming in so i do apologize for that Nobody appreciates the appreciates the contributions of tony more than i do. let's see. Let me see if i can make some magic here in tony. How tony i hear. You guys perfectly fine. Can you hear me and see me. I guess i am injured. I heard in an hour. I'll check into that works. Hit the hot tony. And you're a gamer. And you definitely try i. I hated the that is no problem. And i think we're gonna have to fill in for so. Hey but my dogs my dog here all the time so if you see a behind the curtain radio that is he's still going to go ahead and contributed the show in the live chat which is absolutely awesome so we will go ahead and bring him up and we will ask him questions via that. So tony what. We're going to say right now. Tony is this. What are your thoughts on the whole dotson situation. You think that's a bunch of hooey and we also wanna know your thoughts on bringing trai turner to sub for basically is a pretty much risk reward to bring in trai turner for david decastro. I really think in june. You've got nothing to lose because you were not gonna have david decastro this year and then you're going with those other plans so if we can go ahead and if you get something out of them then it's awesome if not. That's that's the problem. So tony will ask you to go ahead and And type that. In and i would love to see reactions so shannon. I'm gonna go ahead and wrap that up saying like i don't think they they can really go wrong because they save some money in the decastro situation. Do you feel though that they are going to let that money. You feel a jillian. Which is my daughter. you feel. They're going to. They're going to have that money. Burn the whole that birthday money burned the whole in their pocket so much that they've gotta go ahead and just spend or do you feel that they're going to allocate it towards signing more free signing their own free agents like t. J. watt like am make a fitzpatrick to sign a deal. They may do the the ladder and because they'd like to get t j Signed long-term extended I know that a lot of a fan base would feel more positive if they would use that money to bring in a couple of more You know team friendly contracts say. Justin houston edge or melvin ingram. You want him to sign hooker and and we know why but but you know. I think that the biggest glory need at the moment would be. 'age they need some depth there because russia is a key can be a good situational pass rusher but they need somebody with experience. I think and Marsh He might do better this year with some experience and training camp under his belt. The steelers but Last year the little play time that he got he. He wasn't impressive So i would like to see him. You know if you get a good deal 'cause they like to a lot of times towards the end a camp Do long term extension like they did with how you were last year. I think it was last year. Might have been the year prior but last night. They like to do that right in camper and they might decide to do that. With what and get that worked out. What and make are definitely Possibilities i would love to see them. Go ahead and just take the question. Mark away from Both of those guys. But when i'm looking at here is I'm looking at the possibility that you've gotta justin houston out there. You've gotta. brian poll there. Those are possibilities. I really don't think the hooker thing needs to happen as much as maybe one of those other guys. So that's what i'm looking at here. So tony's comment the wrap up that spot as long as turner's healthy. I think he'll be an upgrade over. What david decastro contribute last year and what he would have likely contributed this year based on the bone spurs. Yeah i mean somebody else i. It was west. Was it west. That said it that luck. It's better than a guy that's not even here Might have not been west at said. I'm not sure who said it. But man my brain is hurting tonight. I my my brain is is kind of like tony's internet today but i gotta bring up george test here. If they signed hall and oates bad would be happy. My gosh. that's all they need to do. You signed daryl hall. And john oates among the great and i've before we go to break. I've got a trivia question for you. Tony ala l. Let you answer this question. How many hit singles did hall and oates have on record. Is that for major tony. That's that's For both of you he'll type it in and he says even my typing is is loaded. Tonight tony saint twenty-seven. I i really don't have. The answer is zero hall and oates never had a hit record maneater. That does not count. Because those those were credited to daryl hall and john oates holland we call them hall and oates all the time. Okay habitat ruben. They have never recorded an album. Recorded a single as hall and oates. That is ticky tacky. but that's your rain is tonight. It's the off season. So that's no problem. Dave shipley says what he has. No super chat. Tony does not have to pay the for his comments in fact what we'll do is tony's going to be click bait. I i tell you what we're going to. We're going to go to break. We're going to try to bring tony back one more time. And after that we will get into Some bubble guys and who we think are gonna burst that bubble guys that the media as fans have discounted. That's what we're gonna do. We'll do that when we come back. 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