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"john mueller" Discussed on Voices of Search by Searchmetrics

Voices of Search by Searchmetrics

07:55 min | 3 months ago

"john mueller" Discussed on Voices of Search by Searchmetrics

"Money very quickly. So in that case like i would definitely prioritize. Technical bed of besides like major issues is things that can happen a little faster. You i guess sort of debatable is. Internal lean game is technical or on page caterpillars that line because they used to be more technical. But these days like there's a lot of tools make it a little easier redirects. I would say like directly up. You know you've got links to your site going to four four page redirecting those one hundred percent one of the easiest wins you can do. What was the page about. Was the new page. About as bright a few roles reader reclaim a lot of links quickly. So a lot of what's been talked about this year and seo as the launch of core web vitals and optimizing your site for page speed for optimal performance is one of those things that is not a quick win. It is not a four. Oh four redirect a lot of investment in time in engineering to try to make your site more performance and on the same time. Google sang that core web. Vitals is basically a tiebreaker. So it's not going to be a priority for every seo all of the time who should be paying attention to core web vitals. The most is it just the enterprise brands. Who are you know highly competitive seo or is it something that everyone needs to pay attention to. I wouldn't say the most enterprises are highly competitive in seo. That's kind of a fair. It's kind of a bit like a lot of kind of rape for branded stuff. And that's about it. But yeah it's i don't tell people to do it for seo idell people to if you're gonna make that argument against the developer. Who can quote. John mueller say this is a tiebreaker. Gary you're not gonna win that argument does they do this for seo. Doing for user experience making vassar cyber users as good do it for analytics. Business data because generally faster loading site major analytics tags in a fire earlier. You're gonna record more business. Data fact a lot of the studies around a site speed. They kind of their little mislead. I they get a lot of gazes because you are recorded or visitors. Like oh yeah. I didn't break any higher. Like i have more people blah blah blah. But somehow i have more people in my sight like they don't necessarily actually have people you didn't rank higher. How did you get more people. Simply it's being recorded. yeah. I mean. I understand that. It's a good point that you should improve your site performance to get your analytics tag up there. I think at the end of the day. There are expectations. That google is setting in terms of what a performance site is Search metrics did a study and it was something like four percent of websites actually performed up to what google would consider to be a reasonable standard to me that indicates that well those standards are probably not reasonable if only four percent of the websites that surveyed are actually reaching the criteria. I think i saw that that study. I think it's four pages but actually from the source. The crux stay the chrome user experience. Report it's a thirty percent of the sites are actually passing core web vitals thirty percent so even then look seventy percents like it baseball you know. Hey if you're winning three hundred ten times you're going to the hall of fame core web vitals. Maybe you want to have a little bit more of a performance side again. We're talking about the standard that google is set for what is a performance site. Not everybody's going to reach them but going back to the prioritization. We've talked a lot about a look. Focus on the easy stuff. Focus on getting your content out there. New contents always great. You can always go back after a couple of months and optimize your content. Some no brainers for optimizing technical stuff and then when you get into the d. perry stuff. Well maybe that's not really a priority. It makes it a little complex for the people who are thinking about the big hairy challenges in seo so does it mean that seo is a relatively simple thing to prioritize or are there times when you actually do need to get your hands dirty and really get into the weeds with some of the more complex topics that are difficult potentially really effective. I would say the prioritizing is one of the hardest things for seo's to do to be honest and a lot of it just comes with time with experience with trying things and seeing that like something didn't actually work. It didn't make a difference. You gotta live and you learn and then you figure out like in the future may be you prioritize differently than you did before or in a lot of cases like with the textile i might give a general prioritization. But i'm always gonna go by death even say. How would you prioritize this. Actually because you're the woods actually do the work. So i don't want to put words in your mouth and say this is an easy thing in. They're like oh no no. No that's gonna take forever. It's got ten dependencies is going to take like three months or whatever. Yeah at the end of the day. There's a scoping exercise that you have to do when you're thinking about prioritization and it's not only something that you can do in a vacuum. It's something that you need to think about with your cross functional partners when you're thinking about content you probably working with the content team or at least a writer when you're thinking about your technical optimization you're working with product managers you're working with your developers and understanding how you could fit what you're trying to accomplish into their roadmaps as well. Prioritization is a deep dark and hairy topic. Something that everybody has to figure out for themselves. But i do agree with patrick that when it comes down to figuring out what your prioritization is. You've got to think about what's going to be. Give you the biggest bang for the buck for the minimal amount of effort and that wraps up this episode of the voices who searched podcast. Thank you for listening to my conversation with patrick stocks whose product advisor technical. Seo at h. rifts. In part two of this interview we're going to continue the conversation talking about how you can rank faster if you can't wait till our next episode and you'd like to contact patrick. You could find a link to his linked in profile on our show notes. You can contact him on twitter. Handle is patrick. Stocks that's p. a. T. r. i c. k. s. t. o. x. or you can visit his company's website which is h. dot com. That's a h. R. e. f. s. dot com a special thanks to search metrics for sponsoring. This podcast don't forget about their new twenty twenty one offer where you can get twenty percent off of search metrics sweet and supported services until you grow your website by twenty one percent to check out the details of their twenty percents offer. Good a search metrics dot i o. Slash twenty twenty one offer and especial. Thanks to rafts for sponsoring this podcast monitoring. Your website used to require multiple expensive tools. But that's not the case anymore. Thanks to h rifts because they just launched their h. refs webmaster tools product which monitors your seo health helps you keep track of your back links and gives you the insight into what keywords performing for free so check out. Eight trips webmaster tools at h. Traps dot com slash. Awt that's eight drafts. A h. r. e. f. s. dot com slash a. w. t. Just one more lincoln or show notes. 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"john mueller" Discussed on KCRW

KCRW

02:06 min | 1 year ago

"john mueller" Discussed on KCRW

"But Congress has not approved extra funding, and some states say they can't pay either. Here's Paul Braun of member station W. O RK F in Baton Rouge. The memorandum President Trump issued on Saturday promised a weekly payment of $400. But to qualify states have to pay $100 of that. Very few have enough money on hand to meet that requirement. Take, for example, Louisiana where government John Bell, Edwards says the state's unemployment trust fund is running low and cares act money is already spoken for the state benefits unemployed workers are already receiving can count toward that $100. But Edward says that would mean nearly half of the state's unemployed workers aren't getting enough to meet the requirement. One of the challenges that we have is that I believe That they're about to over 200,000 workers who are getting a benefit but less than $100 a week. Many of those are gig workers or self employed, okay, and that kind of volume. I am a musician and the entitlement that was awarded to me $16 a week. Williams has been a professional electric bass player in New Orleans for 30 years. He qualified for the $600 pandemic employment benefits that expired July 31st. But his low state unemployment benefit means it's unlikely that he will receive any additional assistance unless Congress passes another relief. Bill. John Mueller is executive director of the Louisiana Budget Project, an organization that advocates for low and moderate income families. He says Williams is not alone. The people who were working in restaurants making existing on tips, maybe working and the gig economy who really have had no way to make a living since the tourist industry that drove so much of South Louisiana's economy collapsed. Are not going to get anything from this. Williams says He has someone who's contributed to Louisiana's culture and economy for decades, just once a fair shake for.

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"john mueller" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

Newsradio 1200 WOAI

07:34 min | 3 years ago

"john mueller" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

"Morning booted Denver. To Dallas got on a plane that was full and flew to bozeman Montana. Good. Gosh. In a Range Rover with two dogs. And I'm about. Thirty five miles from text line. We're not offhand. But I got a feeling it's it's it's west of del heart on eighty seven in sixty four grabbing. Yeah. I'll go through del heart and then Vega, and then dammit and Hereford and then come in brownwood through that way. Clovis? Yup. Yup. Yup. I should get home by about. Let's say I have to take a nap probably sometime around five o'clock how much snow have you seen? Middle. Hey, michael. Then there you go there you back. You mean? It was clear as a bell. No. But the roads were I mean, just dry and clear really Trinidad. I got the Trinidad and from Trinidad to about fifty miles from text line, maybe twenty miles. They were terrible. You know, 'cause you go from Trinidad to retain. And then you then you get on sixty four eighty seven right heading heading east. And and they were just terrible. Yeah. It was you know, you're you're doing fifty in a seventy miles. There was some chemicals. They had on the road. But I I saw a couple of cars in the ditch. Nine one one to get tow-trucks out. There was a pass that Rotan was it bad. Yeah. Rocca from Trinidad to Rotana now from real can to like like I said to about twenty miles back. It was just white knuckle driving. They told me it would change when I got to Texas. Well, it changed about fifteen miles back. And I'm, you know, I'm able roads are clear, but you know there. Laugh at this. This is stupid by business. Have nothing else to do Friday going to be in Houston getting kidney cancer. No. But I have a guy who calls me. He's in Paris. Okay. You didn't call me. Text me. He wants me. Why Sunday to Denver pick up a brand? New pickup truck driver tebow's men, which I just, you know, just left never been to bulletin board by life drive it to bozeman and fly back dos on Monday. Gosh. Well, you know, and and you know, they people don't realize I I could if I have three weeks I can fly from Austin down one hundred thirteen dollars. I can you know. Probably the round trip would be maybe four hundred bucks know, macaque dos. Right. Because there's no time in between. Ten hundred and fifty five dollars thousand fifty five right, right? Yeah. Told the guy. I text him, you know, 'cause in Paris it there, eight hours difference. So I catch the guy when he woke up, and I said, you know, all the Ford dealership, don't get a transport company some guy with the pickup truck and a trailer. They'll put the pickup truck and the trailer in the chart you seven hundred bucks because it's only from Denver to bozeman. It's only seven hundred miles right? You know, it's like a twelve hour drive. So, but that's life. You know? Okay. Guys have a good New Year's wanted to catch you before the show started. And I always enjoy. Catching up with you guys? When we appreciate you calling in. I'm glad that nothing happened and roads are getting better. This. This this norther here. They were here. We were supposed to be in the twenties and highs and low forties and hell it's thank fifty-six out there or something like that. Now, we've got to win from hail. But it's not nowhere near as cold as they were hollering. It was going to be over there on ninety and even on twenty five coming out of Cheyenne. There were signs saying between five o'clock this morning. And eight o'clock tonight, sixty five mile an hour. Plus when you're out in the middle of nowhere, people don't realize you never hear about it. But it's like they can it can blow hundred miles an hour. I'll bet that's right. You know without breathing. It's twenty five degrees here. And I like I said, I'm about probably twenty five miles from text line coaches, the which is the border between New Mexico and Texas. So we'll have a good one. The worst. That was I think I got fifteen degrees somewhere in the mirror. Well, guys, take care. Glad you're safe and everything's good. We appreciate you. Giving us a holler. Okay. Thank you, Michael. Traveling. All over the place bozeman Montana, Eric now that would be. That's pretty far north that's way up there way up there. But he's seen some beautiful country already. Mean you come in from they come right down the Rockies, or at least probably the Rockies continental divide. Yep. Wow. That'd be pretty I like the mountains. And he knows it. And that's why he's calling. But yeah, hey, folks, we do have a great show for you here just a little bit. Well, I will talk to Jerry deep-sea headquarters here in a little bit. And then we'll talk Tofail Tocqueville bourgeois. Resident Cajun we'll give us a call. Then we're gonna top to Stephen Boris ski down at bay flats lodge. Then we'll open the six o'clock hour y'all just gives call by the way, if you don't want to give us a call at number is eight seven seven six three three three six six five four eight three eight seven seven three six six five four eight three gives call. And. Seven the than six fifteen Jamie. Houston, the hardest working bass fisherman out. There will be our guest for thirty minutes or so then we'll visit with Billy koshen down at rock port fast. Find out how the bay patients doing then again will open up the McLaughlin segment gives call probably right in there. We're gonna talk to John Mueller and find out what's going on over at his place. And then we'll visit with. Canister marine sec- firing Jeff Austin, and oh we're going to talk to Mike young at Callahan's general store here in Austin, then we'll talk to Jeff Austin with Rudy's redfish Cup series. Then Brian Booker Brown was tell us about what's gone on. How the the.

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"john mueller" Discussed on News Radio 1190 KEX

News Radio 1190 KEX

14:07 min | 3 years ago

"john mueller" Discussed on News Radio 1190 KEX

"And welcome back to coast to coast. Let me tell you about Gary Moore gear the author of the critically acclaimed book playing with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award playing with the enemy is currently option. Does a major motion picture Gary is a contributing author for chicken soup for the father and son soul. And the self syndicated columnists with a degree in music education from vendor cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often mix his percussive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program and welcome back. I should say thank you so much. It's it's a pleasure to be on end. And it's great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book and he's one of. Kind one of a kind you must know all kinds of musicians to well. I do I do I've it's been a real pleasure. Most of my life. I've been able to be around some of the some of the great ones out, you know, for me, the greatest Chrome River was buddy rich. Yeah. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. Yeah. I think of this tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in it? You know, I was never a buddy Holly fan. It's just the strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who is just that was just the of most wonderful woman you'd ever meet lived in Iowa grew up in in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I thought the winter dance party knowing her age must've been ballroom, dancing that and thought I should take some dance lessons by later found on found out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactments was a a performer by John Mueller who travels with the show you owned the rights now to the winter dance party. And you know, I sat through the. The evening, and it was he was great music wonderfully performed. The big Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And it was he was great and emotional than performance. Did Ritchie Valens was outstanding. John models, buddy. Holly was a great, but nothing really trip my trigger excited until the very end of the show. John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy. That he had written. My first thought was you know, you're gonna ruin a beautiful night and interject something you've written and the song was so haunting captivating when it ended. I wife looked over at me. And she started here running down my face. She said what happened what's wrong, and I said, no. And from that moment on I was just almost on an obsession to learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't a write about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just wanna write about, you know, who buddy Holly was trying to find stories that people had written about, but. Ended up speaking to barbed wire who is the wife of Jerry Dwyer. The man who owned the chargers and one sentence that she told said to me, I grew crash and in my analysis of it. I gotta tell you. It was. An incredible story. I was only nine when this thing happened. So was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left to this plane in what's the big Bopper. Was he the one who is like tossed thirty feet away from everybody else? Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and and very scantily dressed most of his clothes had been removed. Which seems shocking would so far away and be undressed. But crash investigators will tell you that it is not unusual, and I actually worked with a crash investigator from the NTSB is we kind of recreated a crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all didn't they also find a handgun somewhere. They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until the spring. It's not was snowing when when the crash occurred snow trout tonight. So as investigators arrived the plane, Mary was snow covered. And when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't get all the debris. Well farmer by the last name of jewel was piling the field in the spring, so a handgun. So he got out of it got out of the tractor picked up the gun with data. And for whatever reason did the dumbest thing do he pointed up near pull the trigger and off. And so he evidence and so he thought well, okay. I'll take this to the to the sheriff the next day. And he did the sheriff look at it. Then they found out from the serial number that it was registered Charles Hardin Holly, which is vice real name. And that and he recorded in the notes that he'd been one shellfire. Beyond what he fired. No, just one just one just one. But he did not make a note that it was fired by the farmer, and so a few years later, the newspapers got ahold of it. Made it sound like something happened in the plane just happened like something. Well, not only that photographer claims it when he was taking pictures of the crash that he found a bullet hole in the in the back of the pilot seat, and it and it just became almost standard rock and roll Wisma time that buddy had shocked violent are you convinced at this point Gary that what happened was pilot's error. I am convinced its pilots air. Yes. I I I'm a pilot. And I was also a I spent six years of my life is a charter operator. And so a lot of experience with pilots lot experiencing airplanes. And it is. So crystal clear, really what happened. You have a twenty one year old pilot who was not instrument rated in the weather was lousy weather was awful. It was just office you'd never flown that day. No. That's exactly right. And it's amazing. I I actually received hate mail and threatening meal. I rely. Well, I took the position in in my book. It has is we kind of wrote this analysis that the one called, hey, buddy. Yeah. Exactly. And that that it was pilot error, and we lay out the exact every scenario the crash what happened, and there is a there was this through the years or has become a very strong. I guess lobby. I'd call it for Jerry Dwyer. Jerry is the charter operator. And Jerry had spunk before he passed away. His find out different theories to kind of make. I guess excuses for the fact that he let that plane take off he wanted to kind of take the load off. And so, and so, you know, when when wrote the crash analysis it obviously points to the fact that Jerry was the adult in the room he owned the airplane. He employed the pilot yet he put a twenty one year old unqualified inexperienced pilot who had a record of suffering suffering from vertigo. In the pilot's seat of an overloaded bonanza which had had which would having a lot of problems. And you know, the crash lasted five minutes, you know, finalists was everybody was surprised that they that the plane crashed. I would be surprised if it didn't. Yeah. That it even took off. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. It's just. It is a tragedy upon tragedy and the greatest tragedy is a fact that the operator actually but plane go in and you know, George Keanu. Because the flight left shortly after midnight and charter operator he spent the whole day with the pilot checking the weather checking the plane he stayed in. It was record cold. It was by most accounts. It was with the wind chill was almost thirty below. And we came out there with the plane loaded the plane once the plane taxied off he didn't leave and go home. He went up to the when you went up to an observation area outside watch the plane take off and stood there until the plane was out of sight and went to the control tower and tried to contact plane. And in all my years of operating charter service. I never did that I had qualified pilots if I was at the airport, I'd help load the plane seed off that kind of thing, but you know. It was his action says that he was worried he was concerned, and you know, before Jerry Dwyer got home and got to bed that night. Those are those the plane was dead was crash though. The. Inhabitants of Blaine were dead and getting cold already out there in the snow. Why so many conspiracy theories Gary about the crash, well, you know, better than anyone? That's certainly there are conspiracy theories of almost everything anytime anytime, do we have people of prominence our heroes, especially if they die a. You know, a tragic, but explainable death. There's something encoded Jagan eight it just doesn't want to believe that doesn't want to accept that. Jim Morrison still alive? Absolutely, absolutely. In fact, I was just a kind of going to the book I wrote the book almost ten years ago. So I was going through my notes staff known, and I I was surprised, you know, basically, remember some of that so many of the theories that I never put into the book, but one of them is floating out there now, and it's all over the internet is it that the crash was fake the buddy didn't like his life. And and reappeared a few years later somebody else. That's interesting. Also, there was a theory about a bomb. Right. Putting the plane. Yeah. There is why would that pop up? Well, it is it is is the fact that during that early time of rock and roll the organ organized crime, mafia, Cosa, Nostra, whatever whatever you wanna call it. They were really working hard to take over recording industry, and these young these, you know, these artists were almost all of them were teenagers. They didn't know better they were signing contracts. They should shouldn't have signed life way. And they were pursuing buddy pretty hard. The body was resisting and Peggy sue gern who is the famed. Peggy sue of the Tucson hit song. That's right. Yeah. Longtime buddy, our friend. Gary Gary Busey played the buddy Holly in the buddy, Holly story, seventy eight by the way. Yeah. Absolutely. I remember him singing that song and didn't incredible job. He did you really incredible job. But the Peggy sue said that buddy had called her and talked to her about the fact that he was afraid said said they were following the bus. They were they were threatening him. Andy. The. Causal theory. But Georgia the thing that makes it very difficult to believe that that's about. Well, first of all there was no to tell you the wreckage looks like you've got blown up. Well, I've never seen a plane more mangled and all my life. Oh, yeah. It it ended up just being a ball of aluminum wire. But but they'd the crash investigators. We work with said, you know, there was absolutely no evidence of the bomb in the plane. I if the plane had there have been a bomb on board. The plane would have blown apart near the crash site in pieces would've been everywhere everywhere. And this was a very tight crash site in the plane was almost totally in county in in in in together but mangled mangled. It doesn't look like a plane. No, you would not notice an airplane. In fact, tell you a story where were the bodies in the rubble. The only body was in in the rubble was the pilot in fact. They were looking for the pilot and they found the plane round nine o'clock in the morning a little bit earlier. Not far from the runway. Right. No, five miles miles out albums cornfield in in Mason city, Iowa. And when investigators arrived, they found buddy, Holly Ritchie Valens were fifteen feet ten feet from the airplane mangled terribly mangled. In fact, I talked to had to play just about six months ago. I got a phone call from the priest who was called to the site cheese and had had a conversation with him. And he said that it was something he wished he wouldn't have seen..

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"john mueller" Discussed on KFI AM 640

KFI AM 640

07:00 min | 3 years ago

"john mueller" Discussed on KFI AM 640

"And welcome back to coast to coast. Let me tell you about Gary Moore. Gary's the author of the critically acclaimed book playing with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award plane with the enemy is currently option. Does a major motion picture Gary is a contributing author for chicken soup for the father and son soul and a self syndicated columnist with a degree in music education from vendor cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often mix his progressive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program. And welcome back. I should say George. Thank you so much. It's it's a pleasure to be on. And and it's great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book, and he's one of a kind one of a kind you must know all kinds of musicians to I do. I do it's been a real pleasure. Most of my life. I've been able to be around some of the some of the great ones out, you know, for me, the greatest Graham river was buddy, rich. Yeah. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. Yeah. I think of this tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in it? You know, I was never buddy Holly fan. It's just the strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who is just a. Was just the kindest most wonderful woman you'd ever meet. Lived in Iowa grew up in in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I got the winter dance party knowing her age must have been ballroom. Dancing hadn't thought I should take some dance lessons later found off found out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactments a performer by John Mueller who travels with the show you owns the rights. Now, the winter dance party and. You know, I sat through the the evening, and it was he was great music, and you know, wonderfully performed. The big Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And he was he was great and emotional than performance. Did Ritchie Valens was outstanding. John. Muir, commodities, buddy. Holly was a great, but nothing really trip my trigger excited until the very end of the show. John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy. That he had written. My first thought was gonna ruin a beautiful night and interject something written. And the song was so haunting in captivating when it ended I wife went over man, she saw tears running down my face. She said what happened was wrong? And I said, I don't know. And from that moment on I was just almost on an obsession to learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't a right about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about who buddy. Holly was trying to find stories that people had written about, but. Ended up speaking to barbed wire who is the wife Jerry Maguire, the man who owned the charter service and one sentence that she told said to me, I grew crash and in my analysis of it. I gotta tell you. It was. An incredible story. I was only nine when this thing happened. So it was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left to this plane in what's the big Bopper. Was he the one who was like tossed thirty feet away from everybody else? Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and and very scantily dressed most of his clothes had been removed, which seems shocking. He would be so far away and be undressed. But crash investigators will tell you that it's not unusual, and I actually work with crash investigator from the NTSB is we kind of recreated the crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until the spring. You know, it's not snowing when when the crash occurred snowed throughout route tonight. So as investigators arrived the plane area was snow covered. And when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't get all the debris. Well farmer by the last name jewel was pine the field in the spring. So a handgun. So he got out of it. It got the gun with data. And for whatever reason did the dumbest thing do we pointed up near pull the trigger. And and so he evidence. Yeah. And so he thought well, okay. I'll take this to the to the sheriff the next day, and he did in the sheriff look at it. And they found out some serial number that it was registered Charles Hardin Holly, which is buddies real name. And that and he recorded in the note that had been one shellfire. Beyond what he fired now. Just one just one just one. But he did not make a note. There was fired by the farmer, and so a few years later the newspapers got ahold of it made it sound like something happened in the plane. Well, not only that photographer claimed it when he was taking pictures of the crash he found a bullet hole in the in the back of the pilot seat, and it, and it just became almost standard rock and roll Wisma time that buddy had shopped pilots are you convinced at this point Gary that what happened was pilot's error. I am convinced its pilots air. Yes. For for a pilot. And I was also I spent six years, my wife is a charter operator. And so a lot of experience with pilots lot experiencing airplanes. And it is. So crystal clear, really what happened..

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"john mueller" Discussed on KNST AM 790

KNST AM 790

07:00 min | 3 years ago

"john mueller" Discussed on KNST AM 790

"Coast to coast. Let me tell you about Gary Moore gear is the author of the critically acclaimed book playing with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award playing with the enemy is currently option. Does a major motion picture Gary is a contributing author for chicken soup for the father and son soul and a self syndicated columnist with a degree in music education from vendor cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often mix his progressive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program and welcome back. I should say thank you so much. It's it's a pleasure to be on. And and it's great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book and. He's one of a kind one of a kind you must know all kinds of musicians to I do. I do I do. I've it's been a real pleasure. Most of my life. I've been able to be around some of the some of the great ones out, you know, for me to greatest drummer river was buddy rich. Yeah. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. Yeah. I think of this tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in it? You know, I was never buddy Holly fan. It's just the strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who is just that was just the kindest most wonderful woman you'd ever meet up lived in Iowa grew up in in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I thought the winter dance party knowing her age must've been ballroom dancing. I hadn't thought I should take some dance lessons about later found off out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactment. It was a a performer by John Mueller who travels with the show you owned the rights now to the winter dance party. And you know, I sat through the. The evening, and it was he was great music and know wonderfully performed. The big Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And he was he was great and emotional than the performance. Did Ritchie Valens was outstanding. John merica models, buddy. Holly with a great, but nothing really trip my trigger excited. Very end of the show. John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy that he had written it. My first thought was, you know, are you going to ruin a beautiful night and interject something written and the song was so haunting in captivating when it ended I wife went over me and she thought tier running down my face. She said what happened was wrong? And I said, I don't know. And from that moment on I was just almost on an obsession to learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't to write about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about, you know, who buddy Holly was trying to find stories that people had written about but ended up speaking to barbed wire who is the wife of Jerry Dwyer. The man who owned the charter service and one sentence that she told said to me, I grew the crash and in my analysis of it. I gotta tell you. It was. An incredible story. I was only nine when this thing all happened. So I was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left of this plane in what's the big Bopper. Was he the one who is like tossed thirty feet away from everybody else? Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and and very scantily dressed most of his clothes had been removed, which seems shocking beef so far away and be undressed. But crash investigators will tell you that that is not unusual, and I actually work with a crash investigator from the NTSB is we kind of recreated the crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until this spring. You know, it's not snowing when the when the crash occurred throughout the night. So as investigators arrived the plane, Mary was snow covered. And when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't get all the debris. Well farmer by the last name of jewel with plying the field in the spring, so a handgun. So he got out of it got out of the tractor picked up the gun looked at it. And for whatever reason did the dumbest thing he pointed up your pull the trigger and and one off and so he. Evidence. Yeah. And so he thought well, okay. I'll take this to the to the sheriff the next day. And he did miss sheriff looked at it. And they found out some the serial number that it was registered Charles Hardin Holly, which is buddies real name. And that and he recorded in the notes that he'd been one shellfire. Beyond what he fired. No, just one just one just one. But he did not make a note. It was fired by the farmer. And so a few years later newspapers got ahold of it made it sound like something happened in the plane like something. Well, not only that a photographer claimed that when he was taking pictures of the crash that he found a bullet hole in the in the back of the pilot seat. And it and it just became almost standard rock and roll Wisma time that buddy headshots Bislett are you convinced at this point Gary that what happened was pilot's error. I am convinced its pilots air. Yes. It's I I I'm a pilot. And I was also a I spent six years of my life is a charter operator. And so a lot of experience with pilots lot experiencing airplanes. And it is. So crystal clear, really what happened..

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"john mueller" Discussed on KTOK

KTOK

13:31 min | 3 years ago

"john mueller" Discussed on KTOK

"Welcome back to coast to coast. Let me tell you about Gary Moore gear is the author of the critically acclaimed book playing with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award playing with the enemy is currently option. Does a major motion picture Gary is a contributing author for chicken soup for the father and son soul and a self syndicated columnist with a degree in music education from vendor cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often mix his percussive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program and welcome back. I should say George. Thank you so much. It's it's a pleasure to be on. And and it's great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book, and he's one of a kind one of. Kind. You must know all kinds of musicians to I do. I do I've it's been a real pleasure. Most of my life. I've been able to be around some of the some of the great ones out, you know, for me greatest drummer river was buddy rich. Yeah. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. Yeah. I think of this tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in it? You know, I was never buddy Holly fan. It's just the strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who is just. That was just the kind of most wonderful woman you'd ever meet. Lived in Iowa grew up in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I thought the winter dance party knowing her age must've been ballroom dancing. I hadn't thought I should take some dance lessons later found off found out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactments. It was a was a performer buddy John Mueller who travels with the show he owns the rights now to the winter dance party. And you know, I sat through the. The evening, and it was he was great music, and you know, wonderfully performed. The big Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And he was he was great and emotional than the performance. Did Ritchie Valens was outstanding. And I Ricky modest buddy. Holly was a great, but nothing really my trigger excited until the very end of the show. John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy. That he had written. My first thought was you know, you're gonna ruin a beautiful night and energetic. Something you've written and the song was so haunting captivating when it ended I wife looked over at me. And she started here running down my face. She said what happened what's wrong? And I said, I don't know. And from that moment on I was just almost on an obsession to learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't right about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about. You know, who buddy Holly was trying to find stories that people had written about, but. Ended up speaking to barbed wire who is the wife of Jerry Maguire, the man who owned the charter service and one sentence that she said to me, I grew the crash and in my analysis of it. I gotta tell you. It was an incredible story. I was only nine when this thing all happened. So I was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left to this plane in the big Bopper was he the one who is like tossed thirty feet away from everybody else. Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and and very scantily dressed most of his clothes had been removed, which seems shocking. He would be so far away and be undressed. But crash investigators will tell you that that is not unusual, and I actually work with a crash investigator from the NTSB is we kind of recreated the crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until the spring. It's not snowing when when the crash occurred snowed trout tonight. So as investigators arrived the plane, Mary was snow covered. And when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't get all the debris. Well farmer by the last name of jewel was piling the field in the spring, so a handgun. So he got out of it got out of the tractor picked up the gun data. And for whatever reason did the dumbest thing he pointed up near pull the trigger and we're off and so he evidence. Yeah. And so he thought well, okay. I'll take this to the to the sheriff the next day, and he did in the sheriff look at it. And they found out some the serial number that it was registered Charles Hardin. Holly, which is vice real name. And that and he recorded in the notes that they had been one shellfire. Beyond what he fired now. Just one just one just one. But he did not make a note it was fired by the farmer, and so a few years later, the newspapers got ahold of it. Made it sound like something happened in the plane happened like something. Well, not only that a photographer claimed that when he was taking pictures of the crash that he found bullet hole in the in the back of the pilot's seat. And it and it just became almost standard rock and roll Wisma time that buddy shots violent. Are you convinced at this point Gary that what happened was pilot's error? I am convinced. It's pilots air. Yes. I I I'm a pilot. And I was also I spent six years of my life is a charter operator. And so a lot experience with pilots lot experiencing airplanes. And it is. So crystal clear, really what happened. You have a twenty one year old pilot who was not instrument rated in the weather was lousy weather was awful. Wichita this should never flown that day. No. I it. Exactly. Right. And it's amazing. I I actually received hate mail and threatening mail. I rely. Well, I took the position in my book is is we gotta wrote this analysis that the one called, hey, buddy. Yeah. Exactly. And th that it was pilot error. And and we we we lay out the exact every scenario the crash what happened, and there is a there was this through the years or has become a very strong. I guess lobby. I'd call it for Jerry Dwyer. Jerry is the charter operator and Jerry had spunk before he passed away. He'd spent out different theories to kind of make. I guess excuses for the fact that he let that plane take. All right. He wanted to kind of take the load off. And so, and so, you know, when when when a wrote the crash now asus, obviously points to the fact that Jerry was the adult in the room he owned up the airplane. He employed the pilot yet he put a twenty one year old unqualified inexperienced pilot who had a record of suffering suffering from vertigo. In the pilots of an overloaded bonanza which had had which would having a lot of time. And the crash lasted five minutes. You know finalists was everybody was surprised that they that the plane crashed. I would be surprised if it didn't. Yeah. That it even took off. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. It's just. It is a tragedy upon tragedy and the greatest tragedy is the fact that the operator actually plane go in and you know, George he knew. Because the flight left shortly after midnight, and he's charter operator. He spent the whole day with the pilot checking the weather checking the plane he stayed in. It was record cold. It was by most accounts. It was with the wind chill was almost thirty below. And we go out there with the plane loaded the plane once the plane taxied off he didn't leave and go home. He went up to the when when up to an observation area outside watch the plane take off and stood there until the plane was out of sight and went to the control tower and tried to contact the plane. And in all my years of operating charter service. I never did that, you know, I had qualified pilots if I was at the airport, I'd help load the plane seed off that kind of thing, but you know. He was his action says that he was worried he was concerned, and you know, before Jerry got home and got bed that night. There's a plane was dead crashed though. The inhabitants of blame were deaden getting cold already out there in the snow. Why so many conspiracy theories Gary about the crash, well, you know, better than anyone? That's certainly there are conspiracy theories of almost everything anytime time. Yeah. Any time. Do we have people prominence our heroes, especially if they die a? You know, tragic, but explainable death. There's something encoded in our DNA that just doesn't want to believe that doesn't want to accept that. Jim Morrison still alive things like that. Absolutely. Absolutely. In fact, I was just a kind of going to the book I wrote the book ten years ago. So I was going to my notes staff noon, and I was surprised you remember some of that. So many of the theories that I never put into the book that one of them is floating out there now, and it's all over the internet is it did they crash was fake the buddy didn't like his life. And and reappeared a few years later somebody else. That's interesting. Also, there was a theory about a bomb. Right. Putting a plane. Yeah. There is why would that pop up? Well, it is it is is the fact that during that early kind of rock and roll organized crime, mafia, Cosa, Nostra, whatever you wanna call it. They were really working hard to take over recording industry, and he's young. He's you know, these artists were almost all of them were teenagers. They didn't know better. They were signing contracts. They should shouldn't have signed life way. And they were pursuing buddy pretty hard. Was resisting and Peggy sue gern who is the famed? Peggy sue of the Tucson hit song. That's right. Yeah. Longtime buddy, our friend. Gary Gary Busey played the buddy Holly in the buddy Holly story in seventy eight by the way. Yeah. Absolutely. I remember him singing. That's our incredible job. Yeah. He did you really incredible job. But the Peggy sue said that buddy had called her and talked to her about the fact that he was afraid said they were following the bus. They were they were threatening him. Andy. The. Causal theory. But Georgia the thing that makes it very difficult to believe that that's pow. Well, first of all there was no I to tell you the wreckage looks like you've got blown up. Well, I've never seen a plane more mangled and all my life. Oh, yeah. It it ended up just being a ball of aluminum wire. But but they'd be the crash investigators. We work with said, you know, there was absolutely no evidence of the bomb in the plane. I if the plane had there have been a bomb on board the plane would have blown apart near the crash site. He pieces would've been everywhere everywhere. And this was a very tight crash site in the plane was almost totally in county in in in in together but mangled mangled. It doesn't look like a plane. No, you would not notice an airplane. In fact, tell you a story we're we're the bodies in the rubble the only body that was in in the rubble was the pilot in fact. They were looking for the pilot, and do you know, they found the plane? Yeah. Round nine o'clock in the morning a little bit earlier..

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"john mueller" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

Newsradio 1200 WOAI

13:35 min | 3 years ago

"john mueller" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

"And welcome back to coast to coast. Let me tell you about Gary more gear is the author of the critically acclaimed book playing with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award playing with the enemy is currently option. Does a major motion picture Gary is a contributing author for chicken soup for the father and son soul and a self syndicated columnists with a degree in music education from vendor cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often mix his progressive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program. And welcome back. I should say George. Thank you so much. It's it's a pleasure to be on. And and it's great beyond with you. I've been fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book, and he's one of a kind one of a kind, you must know all kinds of musicians to well. I do I do it's been a real pleasure. Most of my life. I've been able to be around some of the some of the great ones out know for me, the greatest Chrome River was buddy, rich. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. I think of this tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in it? You know, I was never a buddy Holly fan. It's just the strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who is just a. Was just the kind of wonderful woman you'd ever meet. Lived in Iowa grew up in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I thought the winter dance party knowing her age must have been ballroom dancing. I thought I should take some dance lessons about later found on found out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactment was a a performer John Mueller who travels with the show. He owns the rights now, the winter dance party, and you know, I sat through the the evening, and it was he was great music and wonderfully performed. Big Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And it was great and emotional than the performance did Richie balance with outstanding. John Mueller, commodities, buddy. Holly, a great, but nothing really trip my trigger excited until the very end of the show. John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy. That he had written. I thought whereas you know, you're gonna ruin a beautiful night. And check something you've written and the song was so haunting captivating when ended wife Dover, man, she starts here. Running down my face. She said what happened? What's wrong, and I said, no. And from that moment on I was just a almost on an obsession to learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't write about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about. Who buddy Holly was trying to find stories that people had written about, but? I ended up speaking to barbed-wire who is the wife of Jerry Maguire, the man who owned the charter service and one sense that she said to me, I grew me the crash and in my now. I gotta tell you. It was an incredible story. I was only nine when this thing happened. So I was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's it's a wonder they all died because there's nothing left of this plane, and what's the big Bopper? Was he the one who is like tossed thirty feet away from everybody else? Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and in very scantily dressed most his clothes had been removed, which seems shocking. He would beep so far away and be undressed, but crash investigators will tell you that it is not unusual, and I actually work with a crash investigator from the NTSB is we kind of recreated the crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the and gun until this spring. You know, it's not snowing when when the crash occurred, and it snowed. Trout tonight. So as investigators arrived the plane area was snow covered. And when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't get all the debris. Well farmer by the last name of jewel was pine the field in the spring. So a handgun. So he got out of it got out of the cracker picked up the gun with data. And for whatever reason did the dumbest thing do he pointed up near pull the trigger and and where are off and so he evidence. Yeah. And so he thought well, okay. I'll take this to the to the sheriff the next day. And he did the sheriff look at it. And they found out in the serial number that it was registered at Charles Hardin Holly, which is by his real name. And that he recorded in the note that he'd been one shellfire. Beyond what he fired now, just one just one just one. But he did not make a note. It was fired by the farmer. And so a few years later the newspapers got a hold of it made it sound like something happened in the plane made it happened like something. Well, not only that photographer claimed that when he was taking pictures of the crash that he found a bullet hole in the in the back of the pilots, and it and it just became almost standard rock and roll Wisma time that the buddy shots pilot. Are you convinced at this point Gary that what happened was pilot's error? I am convinced its pilots air. Yes. It's I I I'm a pilot. And I was also a I spent six years my life is a charter operator. And so a lot of experience with pilots lot experience in airplanes. And it is. So crystal clear, really what happened. You have a twenty one year old pilot. Who was not instrument? Rated in the weather was lousy weather was awful wizard. Literally just office should never flown that day. No. I it's exactly right. And it's amazing. I I actually received hate mail and threatening mail. I rely. Well, I took the position in in. My book is is we kind of wrote this analysis that the one called, hey, buddy. Yeah. And that that it was pilot error. And and we we we we lay out the exact every scenario the crash what happened, and there is a this through the years or has become a very strong. I guess lobby. I'd call it for Jerry Dwyer. Jerry is the charter operator. And Gary had spawned before he passed away his out different theories to kind of make. I guess excuses for the fact that he let that plane take off he he wanted to kind of take the load off. And so, and so, you know, when when when a wrote the crash now asus it obviously points to the fact that Jerry was the adult in the room he owned the airplane. He employed the pilot yet he put a twenty one year old unqualified inexperienced pilot who had a record of suffering suffering from vertigo. In in the pilot's seat of an overloaded bonanza which had had which would having a lot of problem time. And you know, the crash lasted five minutes. You know, Alison was everybody was surprised that they that the plane crashed. I would be surprised if it didn't it even took off. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. It's just. It is a tragedy upon tragedy and the greatest tragedy is the fact that the operator actually, let plane go in and you know, George he knew. Because the flight left shortly after midnight. And he's charter operator. He spent the whole day with the pilot checking the weather checking the plane he stayed in. It was record cold. It was by most accounts. It was the wind chill was almost thirty below. And out here with the plane loaded the plane once the plane taxied off he didn't leave and go home. He went up to the when you went up to an observation area outside watch the plane take off and stood there until the plane was out of sight and went to the control tower and tried to contact the plane. And in all my years of operating charter service. I never did that I had qualified pilots if I was at the airport, I'd help load the plane seat off that kind of thing, you know. No. He was his action says that he was worried he was concerned, and you know. Before jerry. Maguire got home and got bed that night. Those plane was dead with crash though, the. Inhabitants of Blaine were dead and gain cold already out there. Now, why so many conspiracy theories Gary about the crash, well, you know, better than anyone that certainly there are conspiracy theories of almost everything anytime didn't have time. Yeah. Any time that we have people of prominence our heroes, especially if they die a. You know, a crash, but explainable death. There's something in cardigan. It just doesn't want to believe that doesn't want to accept that. Jim Morrison still alive things like that. Absolutely. Absolutely. In fact, I was just a kind of going to the book, I wrote the book almost ten years go to my notes staff known, and I was surprised, you know, remember some of that. So many of the theories that I never put into the book. One of them that's floating out there now, and it's all over the internet is it that the crash was fake the buddy didn't like his life and uh and repair a few years later somebody else. That's interesting. Also, there was a theory about a bomb. Right. Putting a plane. Yeah. There is why would that pop up? Well, it is it is is the fact that during that early kind of rock and roll the organ organized crime, mafia, the Cosa, Nostra, whatever you wanna call it. They were really working hard to take over recording industry. And these young artists were almost all of them were teenagers. They didn't know better. They were signing contracts. They shouldn't have signed the right way. And they were pursuing buddy pretty hard. Was body was resisting and Peggy sue burnin who is the famous Peggy sue of the Tucson hit song? That's right. Yeah. Longtime buddy, our friend. Gary Gary Busey played the buddy Holly in the buddy Holly story in seventy eight by the way. Yeah. Absolutely. I remember him singing that song and get an incredible job. Yeah. He did. He really incredible job that Peggy sue said that buddy had called her and talked to her about the fact that he was afraid said they were following the bus. They were they were threatening him and the. He applause theory. But Georgia the thing that makes it very difficult to believe that that's the first of all there was no I got to tell you the wreckage looks like you've got blown up. Well, I've never seen a plane more mangled and all my life. Oh, yeah. It it ended up just being a ball of aluminum wire. But but the crash investigators we work with said, you know, there was absolutely no evidence of a bomb in the plane. I if the plane had a bomb on board the plane would have blown apart beer in a in a crash site. He pieces would've been everywhere. There's been everywhere. And this was a very tight crash site in the plane was almost totally in county and in in in together but mangled mangled doesn't look like a plane. No, you would not notice an airplane. In fact, tell you a story we're we're the bodies in the rubble. The only body was in in the rubble was the pilot in fact. They were looking for the pilot and do they found the plane round nine o'clock in the morning a little bit earlier? Not far from the runway right now,.

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"john mueller" Discussed on News Radio 690 KTSM

News Radio 690 KTSM

14:07 min | 3 years ago

"john mueller" Discussed on News Radio 690 KTSM

"And welcome back to coast to coast. Let me tell you about Gary Moore gear is the author of the critically acclaimed book playing with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award playing with the enemy is currently option. Does a major motion picture Gary is a contributing author for chicken soup for the father and son soul and a self syndicated columnist with a degree in music education from vendor cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often mix his percussive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program and welcome back. I should say George. Thank you so much. It's it's a pleasure to be on end. And it's great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book and. He's one of a kind one of a kind you must know all kinds of musicians to well. I do I do I've it's been a real pleasure. Most of my life. I've been able to be around some of the some of the great ones have, you know, to, you know, for me, the greatest drummer river was buddy rich. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. Yeah. I think of this tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in it? You know, I was never buddy Holly fan. It's just the strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who is just that was just kind of was wonderful woman you'd ever meet. Lived in Iowa grew up in in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I thought the winter dance party knowing her age must've been ballroom dancing. Thought I should take some dance lessons about later found off found out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactments. It was a a performer by John Mueller who travels with the show he owns the rights now to the winter dance party. And you know, I sat through the. The evening, and it was he was great music, and you know, wonderfully performed. The big Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And he was he was great emotional than performance. Did Ritchie Valens was outstanding. And John nubrik, buddy. Holly who a great, but nothing really crypt my trigger excited because it's very end of the show. John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy that he had written. My first thought was you know, you're gonna ruin a beautiful night and interject something you written and the song was so haunting in captivating when it ended my wife was over me. And she started here running down my face. She said what happened was wrong, and I said, no. And from that moment on I was just almost on an obsession to learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't a write about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about who buddy. Holly was trying to find stories that people had written about. But I ended up speaking to barbed wire who is the wife of Jerry Maguire, the man who owned the charter service and one sentence that she told said to me, I grew me did a crash and in my analysis of it. I gotta tell you. It was. An incredible story. I was only nine when this thing happened. So I was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left of this plane in the big Bopper was he the one who is like cost thirty feet away from everybody else. Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and and very scantily dressed most of his clothes had been removed, which seems shocking would be so far away and be undressed. But crash investigators will tell you that that is not unusual, and I actually worked with a crash investigator from the NTSB is we kind of recreated the crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until the spring. You know, it's not snowing when when the crash occurred, and it snowed throughout tonight. So as investigators arrived the plane, Mary was snow covered. And when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't get all the debris. Well farmer by the last name of jewel was playing field in the spring, so a handgun. So he got out of it got out of the garbage tractor picked up the gun looked at it. And for whatever reason did the dumbest thing do he pointed up your pull the trigger. And off. And so he. Evidence. Yeah. And so he thought well, okay. I'll take this to the to the sheriff the next day. And he did the sheriff look at it. And they found out some the serial number that it was registered Charles Hardin Holly, which is buddies real name. And that and he recorded in the notes that he'd been one shellfire. Beyond what he fired. No, just one just one just one. But he did not make a note. It was fired by the farmer. And so a few years later the newspapers got ahold of it made it sound like something happened in the plane. It's happened like something. Well, not only that avocado for claimed that when he was taking pictures of the crash that he found bullet hole in the in the back of the pilot's seat. And it and it just became almost standard rock and roll Wisma time that buddy had shot the pilot. Are you convinced at this point Gary that what happened was pilot's error? I am convinced its pilots air. Yes. I I I'm a pilot. And I was also a I spent six years my life is a charter operator. And so a lot of experience with pilots lot experiencing airplanes. And it is. So crystal clear, really what happened. You have a twenty one year old pilot who was not instrument rated in the weather was lousy weather was awful. Was it was just office should never flown that day. No. I it's exactly right. And and it's amazing. I I actually received hate mail and threatening meal. I rely. Well, I took the position in in my book, it has as we kind of wrote this analysis that the one called, hey, buddy. Yeah. Exactly. And that that it was pilot error, and and we we laid out the exact every scenario the crash what happened, and there is a through the years or has become a very strong. I guess lobby. I call it for Jerry Dwyer. Jerry is the charter operator. And Jerry had spunk before he passed away. It's been out different theories to kind of make. I guess excuses for the fact that he let that plane take. All right. He wanted to kind of take the load off. And so, and so, you know, when when when wrote the crash analysis it obviously points to the fact that Jerry was the adult in the room he owned the airplane. He employed the pilot yet he put a twenty one year old unqualified inexperienced pilot who had a record of suffering suffering from vertigo. In the pilot's seat of an overloaded bonanza which had had which would having a lot of problem time and uh. Yeah. The crash lasted five minutes. You know finalists was everybody was surprised that they that the plane crashed. I would be surprised if it didn't that it even took off. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. It's just. It is a tragedy upon tragedy and the greatest tragedy is a fact that the operator actually what plane go in and you know, George he knew. Because the flight left shortly after midnight. Charter operator. He spent the whole day with the pilot checking the weather checking the plane he stayed in. It was record cold. It was by most accounts. It was with the wind chill was almost thirty below. And we came out there with the plane loaded the plane once the plane taxied off he didn't leave and go home. He went up to the went went up to an observation area outside watch the plane take off and stood there until the plane was out of sight and went to the control tower and tried to contact the plane. And in all my years of operating charter service. I never did that I had qualified pilots if I was at the airport I'd help load the plane. Yes. Know off that kind of thing, but you know. It was his action says that he was worried he was concerned, and you know, before Jerry got home and got to bed that night. Those those plane was dead was crashed though. Inhabitants of Lang were dead and getting cold already out there. Now why so many conspiracy theories Gary about the crash, well, you know, better than anyone. That's. Certainly there are conspiracy theories of almost everything anytime any time. Do we have people of prominence our heroes, especially if they die a? You know, a tragic, but explainable death. There's something encoded in our DNA that just doesn't want to believe that doesn't want to accept that your Morrison still alive things like that. Absolutely. Absolutely. In fact, I was just a. Kind of going to the book I wrote the book ten years ago. So I was going to my notes staff noon, and I was surprised you as remember some of that. So many of the theories that I never put into the book that one of them that's floating out there now, and it's all over the internet is it did the crash was fake the buddy didn't like his life. And and reappeared a few years later somebody else. That's interesting. Also, there was a theory about a bomb. Right. Putting the plane. Yeah. There is why would that pop up? Well, it is it is is it fact that during that time of rock and roll organized crime, mafia, Cosa, Nostra, whatever you wanna call us. They were really working hard to take over recording industry, and these young these, you know, these artists were almost all of them were teenagers. They didn't know better they were signing contracts. They shouldn't have signed life way. And they were pursuing buddy pretty hard. Body was resisting and Peggy sue gern who is the famed. Peggy sue of the Tucson hit song. That's right. Yeah. Longtime buddy, our friend. Gary Gary Busey played the buddy Holly in the buddy, Holly story, seventy eight by the way. Yeah. Absolutely. I remember him singing that song and didn't incredible job. Yeah. He did. He really incredible job. But the peg isu- said that buddy had called her and talked to her about the fact that he was afraid said said they were following the bus. They were they were threatening him. Andy. The. Causal theory. But Georgia the thing that makes it very difficult to believe that that's a pow. Well, first of all there was no to tell you the wreckage looks like you've got blown up. Well, I've never seen a plane more mangled and all my life. Oh, yeah. It it ended up just being a ball of aluminum and wire, but but they'd be the crash investigators we work with, you know, there was absolutely no evidence of the bomb in the plane if the plane had there have been a bomb on board the plane would've blown apart in the air in the crash site pieces would've been everywhere everywhere. And this was a very tight crash site in the plane was almost totally in county in in in in together but mangled mangled. It doesn't look like a plane. No, you would not notice an airplane. In fact, tell you a story where were the bodies in the rubble. The only body was in in the rubble was the pilot in fact. They were looking for the pilot and know they found the plane round nine o'clock in the morning a little bit earlier. Not far from the runway. Right. No, five miles and miles out cornfield in in Mason city, Iowa. And when investigators arrived, they found buddy, Holly and Ritchie Valens were. Fifteen feet ten feet from the airplane mangled, not terribly mangled. In fact, I talked to play just about six months ago. I got a phone call from the priest who was called to the site cheese and had a conversation with him. And he just said that it was something he wished he wouldn't have seen..

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"john mueller" Discussed on KTRH

KTRH

13:59 min | 3 years ago

"john mueller" Discussed on KTRH

"Less sleep better. And welcome back to coast to coast. Let me tell you about Gary Moore gear he's the author of the critically acclaimed book plane with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award plane with the enemy is currently optioned as a major motion picture, Gary is a contributing author for chicken soup for the father and son soul and a self syndicated columnist with a degree in music education from vendor cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often mix his percussive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program and welcome back. I should say George. Thank you so much. It's it's a pleasure to be on. And and it's great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book and. He's one of a kind one of a kind you must know all kinds of musicians to I do. I do have been a real pleasure. Most my life has been able to be around some of the some of the great ones. You know, for me, the greatest Graham river was buddy, rich. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. I think of this tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in it? You know, I was never buddy Holly fan. Strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who is just a. That was just the kindest most wonderful woman you'd ever meet. Lived in Iowa grew up in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I thought the winter dance party knowing her age must've been ballroom, dancing, hadn't thought I should take some dance lessons about later found on found out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactments. There's a a performer buddy John Mueller who travels with the show, you owned the rights now, the winter dance party, and you know, I sat through the evening, and it was he was great music and wonderfully performed. Big Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And he was he was great and emotional than performance. Did Ritchie Valens was outstanding. John Mueller models buddy Holly with a great. But nothing really tripped. My trigger excited until the very end of the show John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy. That he had written. My first thought was going to ruin a beautiful night and interject something you've written and the song was so haunting captivating. When it ended. I wife looked over at me. And she starts here. Running down my face. She said what happened was wrong? I said, I don't know. And from that moment on I was just almost on an obsession to learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't a right about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about who buddy. Holly was try to find stories that people had written about, but. Ended up speaking to barbed wire who is the wife of Jerry Dwyer. The man who owned the charter service and one sentence that she said to me, I grew crash and in my analysis of it. I gotta tell you. It was. An incredible story. I was only nine when this thing happened. So I was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left to this plane in what's the big Bopper. Was he the one who is like tossed thirty feet away from everybody else? Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and and very scantily dressed most of his clothes had been removed, which seems shocking. He would beep so far away and be undressed, but crash investigators will tell you that it's it's not unusual, and I actually work with a crash investigator from the NTSB is we kind of recreated the crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until the spring. You know, it's not snowing when when the crash occurred snowed tonight. So as investigators arrived the plane the area was snow covered. And when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't get all the debris. Well farmer by the last name jewel was piling field in the spring a handgun. So he got out of it got another tractor picked up the gun looked at it. And for whatever reason did the dumbest thing do he pointed up near pull the trigger. Oh. And so he evidence. Yeah. And so he thought well, okay. I'll take this to the to the sheriff the next day. And he did the sheriff look at it. And they found out some serial number that it was registered at Charles hardened Holly, which is buddies real name. And that and he recorded in the notes that they had been one shellfire. Beyond what he fired now, just one just one just one. But he did not make a note. It was fired by the farmer. And so a few years later the newspapers got hold of it made it sound like something happened in the plane something well, not only that. Kagera for claimed it when he was taking pictures of the crash he found a bullet hole in the in the back of the pilot's seat. And they'd be and it just became almost standard rock and roll is time that buddy has shocked pilot. Are you convinced at this point Gary that what happened was pilot's error? I am convinced. It's pilot error. Yes. It's for a pilot. And I was also I spent six years my life is a charter operator. And so a lot of experience with pilots lot experience airplanes. And it is. So crystal clear, really what happened. You have a twenty one year old pilot who was not instrument rated in the weather was lousy weather was awful was just office should never flown that day. No, exactly. Right. And it's amazing. I I actually received hate mail and threatening mail. I rely. Well, I took the position in in. My book is is we gotta wrote this analysis that the one called, hey, buddy. Yeah. Exactly. And that it was pilot error, and we we we lay out the exact every scenario the crash what happened, and there is a there was this through the years or has become a very strong. I guess lobby. I'd call it for Jerry, Jerry is the charter operator. And Jerry had spunk before he passed away. He'd spent out different theories to kind of make. I guess excuses for the fact that he let that plane take off right? He wanted to kind of take the load off. And so, and so, you know, when when wrote the crash now asus it obviously points to the fact that Jerry was the adult in the room he owned the airplane. He employed the pilot yet he put a twenty one year old unqualified inexperienced pilot who had a record of suffering suffering from vertigo in the pilot's seat of an overloaded bonanza which had hat which would having a lot of problem and the crash lasted five minutes. You know, alison's was everybody was fries that they that the plane crashed. I would be surprised if it didn't. Yeah. That it even took off. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. It's just. It is a tragedy upon tragedy and the greatest tragedy is a fact that the operator actually plane go, and you know, George she knew. Because the flight left shortly after midnight, and he's charter operator. He spent the whole day with the pilot checking the weather checking the plane he stayed in. It was record cold. It was by most accounts. It was with the wind chill was almost thirty below. And we out there with the plane loaded the plane once the plane taxied off he didn't leave and go home. He went up to the when you know went up to an observation area outside what the plane take off and stood there until the plane was out of sight and went to the control tower and tried to contact the plane. In all my years of operating charter service. I never did that you know, I had qualified pilots if I was at the airport I'd help load the plane seed off that kind of thing. You know? It was his action says that he was worried he was concerned, and you know, before Jerry got home and got bed that night. The plane was dead with crashed. Oh. Blaine were dead and getting cold already out there in the snow. Why so many conspiracy theories Gary about the crash, well, you know, better than anyone certainly there are conspiracy theories of almost everything anytime anytime anytime, do we have people prominence our heroes, especially if they die a. You know, tragic, but explainable death. There's something encoded in our GNA that just doesn't want to believe that doesn't want to accept that your Morrison still alive things like that. Absolutely. Absolutely. In fact, I was just a kind of going to the book I wrote the book was ten years ago to my notes staff known, and I was surprised you remember some of that so many theories that I never put into the book that one of them is floating out there now, and it's all over the internet is it did they crash was fake the buddy didn't like his life. And and reappeared a few years later somebody else. That's interesting. Also, there was a theory about a bomb. Right. Putting a plane. Yeah. There is why would that pop up? Well, it is it is fact that during that early kind of rock and roll organized crime, mafia, Cosa, Nostra, whatever you wanna call it. They were really working hard to take over recording industry and these young Jarvis were almost all of them were teenagers. They didn't know better they were signing contracts. They shouldn't have signed in life way. And they were pursuing buddy pretty hard. The mom was resisting. And Peggy sue Gherman who is the famed. Peggy sue of the Tucson, you know, hit song. That's right. Yeah. Longtime buddy, our friend. Gary Gary Busey played the buddy Holly in the buddy Holly story in seventy eight by the way. Yeah. Absolutely. I remember him singing that Sar and did an incredible job. Yeah. He did. He really incredible job. Peggy sue said that but he had called her and talked to her about the fact that he was afraid said said they were following the bus. They were they were threatening him. Andy. The. Possible theory. But Georgia the thing that makes it very difficult to believe that there was no gotta tell you the wreckage looks like you've got blown up. Well, I've never seen a plane more mangled and all my life. Oh, yeah. It it ended up just being a ball of aluminum wire. But but they'd be the crash investigators. We work with said, you know, there was absolutely no evidence of the bomb in the plane. I if the plane had have been bomb on board the plane would have blown apart near the crash site pieces, everywhere everywhere, and this was a very tight crash site in the plane was almost totally in county in in in in together. But. Mangled mangled. It doesn't look like a plane. No, you would not notice an airplane. In fact, tell you a story we're we're the bodies in the rubble. The only body was in in the rubble was the pilot in fact. They were looking for the pilot and do know they found the plane round nine o'clock in the morning a little bit earlier. Not far from the runway right now, five miles. Cornfield in and Mason city Iowa. And when investigators arrived, they found buddy, Holly and Ritchie Valens were..

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"john mueller" Discussed on KTOK

KTOK

13:31 min | 3 years ago

"john mueller" Discussed on KTOK

"Welcome back to coast to coast. Let me tell you about Gary Moore gear the author of the critically acclaimed book playing with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award playing with the enemy is currently option. Does a major motion picture Gary is a contributing author for chicken soup for the father and son soul and a self syndicated columnist with a degree in music education from vendor cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often mix his percussive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program and welcome back should say, George. Thank you so much. It's it's a pleasure to be on. And and it's great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book, and he's one of a kind one of. Kind. You must know all kinds of musicians to. I do I do. I've it's been a real pleasure. Most of my life. I've been able to be around some of the some of the great ones out, you know, for me, the greatest crime river was buddy rich. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. Yeah. I think of this tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in it? You know, I was never a buddy Holly fan. Strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who is just that was just the kind of wonderful woman you'd ever meet. Lived in Iowa grew up in in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I thought the winter dance party knowing her age must've been ballroom dancing. I thought I should take some dance lessons by later found off out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactments. It was a performer by John Mueller who travels with the show you owned the right now to the winter dance party, and you know. Sat through the the evening. And it was he was great music, and you know, wonderfully performed. The big Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And he was great and emotional than the performance. Did Ritchie Valance was outstanding and John Muir modest buddy. Holly with a great, but nothing really trip my trigger excited until the very end of the show. John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy. That he had written. My first thought was you know, you're gonna ruin a beautiful night and interject something you've written and the song was so haunting captivating when it ended my wife went over me. And she started here running down my face. She said what happened what's wrong? And I said, I don't know. And from that moment on I was just almost on an obsession to learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't a right about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about. You know, who buddy Holly was trying to find stories that people had written about, but. Ended up speaking to barbed wire who is the wife Jerry Dwyer the man who owned the charter service and one sentence that she told said to me grew crash and in my analysis of it. I gotta tell you. It was an incredible story. I was only nine when this thing all happened. So I was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left to this plane in what's the big Bopper. Was he the one who is like tossed thirty feet away from everybody else? Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and and very scantily dressed most of his clothes had been removed, which seems shocking. He would be so far away and be undressed. But crash investigators will tell you that it's not unusual, and I actually worked with a crash investigator from the NTSB is we kind of recreated a crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until the spring. You know, it's not snowing when when the crash occurred snowed trout tonight. So as investigators arrived the plane the area was snow covered. And when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't hall the debris. Well farmer by the last name jewel was piling the field in the spring, so handgun. So he got out of it got out of the tractor picked up the gun was the at it. And for whatever reason did the dumbest thing do he pointed up the air pull the trigger and and we're off and so he evidence. Yeah. And so he thought well, okay. I'll take this to the to the sheriff the next day. And he did the sheriff looked at it. Then they found out from the serial number that it was registered Charles Hardin Holly, which is buddies real name. And that he recorded in the note that the hidden one shellfire. Beyond what he fired. No, just one just one just one. But he did not make a note it was fired by the farmer, and so a few years later, the newspapers got ahold of it. Made it sound like something happened in the plane something well, not only that photographer claimed that when he was taking pictures of the crash that he found a bullet hole in the in the back of the pilot seat, and it and it just became almost standard rock and roll Wisma time that. Buddy. It shocked pilot. Are you convinced at this point Gary that what happened was pilot's error? I am convinced its pilots air. Yes. I I I'm a pilot. And I was also a I spent six years my life is a charter operator. And so a lot of experience with pilots lot experiencing airplanes. And it is. So crystal clear, really what happened. You have a twenty one year old pilot. Who was not instrument? Rated in the weather was lousy weather was awful was office should never flown that day. No. I it's exactly. Right. And in the mazing, I I actually received hate mail and threatening meal. I rely. Well, I took the position in in. My book is is we kind of wrote this analysis that the one called, hey, buddy. Yeah. Exactly. And that that it was pilot error, and we lay out the exact every scenario the crash what happened, and there is a there was this through the years or has become a very strong. I guess lobby. I'd call it for Jerry Dwyer. Jerry is the charter operator. And Jerry had spunk before he passed away his out different theories to kind of make. I guess excuses for the fact that he let that plane take off right? He wanted to kind of take the load off. And so, and so, you know, when when when you wrote the crash now asus it obviously points to the fact that Jerry was the adult in the room he owned the airplane. He employed the pilot yet he put a twenty one year old unqualified inexperienced pilot who had a record of suffering suffering from vertigo. In in the pilot's seat of an overloaded bonanza which had had which would having a lot of problems and the crash lasted five minutes. You know finalists was everybody was fries that they that the plane crashed. I would be surprised if it didn't didn't even took off. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. It's just. It is a tragedy upon tragedy and the greatest tragedy is the fact that the operator actually, let the plane go in and you know, George he knew. Because the flight left shortly after midnight. And he's charter operator. He spent the whole day with the pilot checking the weather checking the plane he stayed in. It was record cold. It was by most counts it was with the wind chill was almost thirty below. And we came out here with the plane loaded the plane once the plane taxied off he didn't leave and go home. He went up to the when went up to an observation area outside watch the plane take off and stood there until the plane was out of sight and went to the control tower and tried to contact the plane. And in all my years of operating charter service. I never did that, you know, I had qualified pilots if I was at the airport, I'd help load the plane, you know, off that kind of thing, but you know. He was his action says that he was worried he was concerned, and you know, before Jerry got home and got to bed that night. Those those plane was dead was crashed though. Inhabitants of Lang were dead and getting cold Alrighty out there in the snow. Why so many conspiracy theories Gary about the crash, well, you know, better than anyone? Certainly there are conspiracy theories of almost everything anytime any time that we have people of prominence our heroes, especially if they die a. You know, a tragic, but explainable death. There's something encoded in our DNA that just doesn't want to believe that doesn't want to accept that. Jim Morrison still alive things like that. Absolutely. Absolutely. In fact, I was just a kind of going to the book I wrote the book was ten years. Go going to my notes, staff noon, and I was surprised you remember some of that. So many of the theories that I never put into the book that one of them is floating out there now, and it's all over the internet is it that the crash was fake the buddy didn't like his life. And and reappeared a few years later somebody else. That's interesting. Also, there was a theory about a bomb. Right. Putting a plane. Yeah. There is why would that pop up? Well, it is it is is it fact that during that time of rock and roll the organized crime, mafia, the Cosa, Nostra, whatever whatever you wanna call it. They were really working hard to take over recording industry, and he's young. He's you know, these artists were almost all of them were teenagers. They didn't know better. They were signing contracts. They should shouldn't have signed life way. And they were pursuing buddy pretty hard. The was was resisting and Peggy sue gern who is the famed. Peggy sue of the Tucson, you know, hit song. That's right. Yeah. Longtime buddy, our friend. Gary Gary Busey played the buddy Holly in the buddy Holly story in seventy eight by the way. Yeah. Absolutely. I remember him singing that song and did an incredible job. He did you really incredible job. The Peggy sue said that buddy had called her and talked to her about the fact that he was afraid said they were following the bus. They were they were threatening him and the the. And it's a plausible theory. But Georgia the thing that makes it very difficult to believe that that's well. First of all there was no I got to tell you the wreckage looks like he got blown up. Well, I've never seen a plane more mangled and all my life. Oh, yeah. It it ended up just being a ball of aluminum wire. But but they'd be the crash investigators. We work with said, you know, there was absolutely no evidence of a bomb in the plane if the plane had. There have been a bomb on board. The plane would have blown apart near the crash site. He pieces would've been everywhere everywhere. And this was a very tight crash site in the plane was almost totally in county in in in together but mangled mangled doesn't look like a plane. No, you would not notice an airplane. In fact, tell you a story we're we're the bodies in the rubble. The only body was in in the rubble was the pilot in fact. They were looking for the pilot, and do you know, they they found the plane around nine o'clock in the morning a little bit earlier..

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"john mueller" Discussed on News Radio 920 AM

News Radio 920 AM

13:30 min | 3 years ago

"john mueller" Discussed on News Radio 920 AM

"To coast. Let me tell you about Gary Moore gear the author of the critically acclaimed book playing with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award playing with the enemy is currently optioned as a major motion picture, Gary is a contributing author for chicken soup for the father and son soul and a self syndicated columnist with a degree in music education from vendor cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often mix his percussive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program. And welcome back. I should say George. Thank you so much. It's it's a pleasure to be on. And and it's great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book, and he's one of a kind one of a kind you must know all kinds of musicians to I do. I do I've it's been a real pleasure. Most of my life. I've been able to be around some of the some of the great ones out to, you know, for me, the greatest Chrome River was buddy rich. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. Yeah. I think of this tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in it? You know, I was never a buddy Holly fan. It's just the strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who. Just that was just the kindest most wonderful woman you'd ever meet. Lived in Iowa grew up in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I thought the winter dance party knowing her age must've been ballroom dancing. Thought I should take dance lessons about later found on found out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactment was a a performance John Mueller who travels with the show you owned the right now to the winter dance party. And you know, I sat through the. The evening, and it was he was great music wonderfully performed. The big Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And he would he would agreed and emotional than the performance did vici balance with outstanding. John Merrick modest buddy Holly with a great, but nothing really tripped. My trigger excited until the very end of the show John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy. That he had written. My first thought was you know, are you going to ruin a beautiful night? And check something you've written and the song was so haunting and captivating. When it ended my wife looked over at me, and she started here running down my face. She said what happened what's wrong? And I said, I don't know. And from that moment on I was just almost on an obsession to learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't a write about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about who buddy. Holly was trying to find stories that people had written about, but. Ended up speaking to barbed wire who is the wife of Jerry Dwyer. The man who owned the charter service and one sentence that she told said to me cruelly, the crash and in my analysis of it. I gotta tell you. It was an incredible story. I was only nine when this thing all happened. So I was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left of this plane in what's the big Bopper. Was he the one who is like tossed thirty feet away from everybody else? Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and in very scantily dressed most of his clothes had been removed, which seemed shocking he would be so far away and be undressed. But crash investigators will tell you that is not unusual, and I actually work with a crash investigator from the NTSB is we recreated the crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until the spring. You know, it was snowing when when the crash occurred nodes route tonight so as investigators arrive the plane, Mary was snow covered. And when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't get hall the debris. Well farmer by the last name of jewel with piling the field in the spring. So a handgun. So he got out of it got out of the tractor picked up the gun looked at it. And for whatever reason did the dumbest thing do he pointed up air pull the trigger. Where are off? And so he. Yeah. And so he thought well, okay. I'll take this to the to the sheriff the next day. And he did the sheriff look at it. And they found out some serial number that it was registered Charles Hardin Holly, which is by his real name. And that and he recorded in the note that he'd been one shellfire. Beyond what he fired. No, just one just one just one. But he did not make a note that it was fired by the farmer, and so a few years later newspapers got hold of it. Made it sound like something happened in the plane happened like something. Well, not only that a photographer claimed that when he was taking pictures of the crash that he found a bullet hole in the in the back of the pilot's seat, and it and it just became almost standard rock and roll. Liz Smith time that buddy it shots. Bislett? Are you convinced at this point Gary that what happened was pilot's error? I am convinced its pilots here. Yes. I I I'm a pilot. And I was also I spent six years my life is a charter operator. And so a lot of experience with pilots lot experience airplanes. And it is. So crystal clear, really what happened. You have a twenty one year old pilot who was not instrument rated in the weather was lousy weather was awful was this should never flown that day. No it. It's exactly right. And it's amazing. I I actually received hate mail and threatening mail. I rely. Well, I took the position in in. My book is is we gotta wrote this analysis that the one called, hey, buddy. Exactly. And that it was there. And we we we we lay out the exact every scenario the crash what happened. And. There is a there was this through the years or has become a very strong. I guess lobby. I call it for Jerry Dwyer. Jerry is the charter operator. And Jerry had spunk before he passed away. He'd spent out different theories to kind of make. I guess excuses for the fact that he let that plane take off right? You wanted to kind of take the load off. And so, and so you know, when when when wrote the crash, now assists. It obviously point to the fact that Jerry was the adult in the room e owned the airplane. He employed the pilot yet he put a twenty one year old unqualified inexperienced pilot who had a record of suffering suffering from vertigo. In in the heat of an overloaded bonanza which had had which was having a lot of problem. And you know, the crash lasted five minutes. You know, Alison was everybody was surprised that they that the plane crashed. I would be surprised if it didn't didn't even took off. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. It's just. It is a tragedy upon tragedy and the greatest tragedy is the fact that the operator actually plane go in and you know, George he knew. Because the flight left shortly after midnight charter operator he spent the whole day with the pilot checking the weather checking the plane he stayed in. It was record cold. It was by most accounts. It was with the wind chill was almost thirty below. And we came out there with the plane loaded the plane once the plane taxied off he didn't leave and go home. He went up to the when you went up to an observation area outside watch the plane take off and stood there until the plane was out of sight and went to the control tower and tried to contact the plane and in all my years of operating charter service. I never did that I had qualified pilots if I was at the airport, I'd help load the plane seed off that kind of thing, you know. Yeah. He was his action says that he was worried he was concerned, and you know, before Jerry got home and got bed that night. Those are the plane was dead was crashed though. Have it says Blaine were dead in cold already out there in the snow? Why so many conspiracy theories Gary about the crash, well, you know, better than anyone? Certainly there are conspiracy theories. If almost everything anytime anytime that we have people have prominence our heroes, especially if they die a. You know, a tragic, but explainable death. There's something encoded in our DNA that just doesn't want to believe that doesn't want to accept that your Morrison still alive things like that. Absolutely. Absolutely. In fact, I was just kind of going to the book I wrote the book almost ten years go going to my notes staff known, and I was prized. Remember, some of that so many of the theories that I never put into the book, but one of them is floating out there now, and I thought over the internet is it that the crash was fake the buddy didn't like his life. And and reappeared a few years later somebody else. That's interesting. Also, there was a theory about a bomb. Right. The plane. Yeah. There is why would that pop up? Well, it is it is is the fact that during that early time of rock and roll organized crime, mafia, Cosa, Nostra, whatever whatever you wanna call it. They were really working hard to take over recording industry, and he's young. He's you know, these artists were almost all of them were teenagers. They didn't know better. They were signing contracts. They should shouldn't have signed life way. And they were pursuing buddy pretty hard. Somebody was resisting and Peggy sue gern who is the famed. Peggy sue of the Tucson hit song. That's right. Yeah. Longtime buddy, Jerry Gary Busey played the buddy. Holly in the buddy Holly story in seventy eight by the way. Yeah. Absolutely. I remember him singing that song and didn't incredible job. He did you really incredible job. The Peggy sue said that, but he had called her and talked to her about the fact that he was afraid said that they were following the bus. They were they were threatening him and the it's a plausible theory. But Georgia the thing that makes it very difficult to believe that that's well. First of all, there was gonna tell you the wreckage looks like you've got blown up. Well, I've never seen a plane more mangled and all my life. Oh, yeah. It it ended up just being a ball of aluminum wire. But but they'd be the crash investigators. We work with said, you know, there was absolutely no evidence of a bomb in the plane if the plane had there have been a bomb on board the plane would have blown apart near the crash site. He pieces would've been everywhere everywhere. And this was a very tight crash site and the plane was almost totally in county in in in in together but mangled mangled. It doesn't look like a plane. No, you would not notice an airplane. Fact, I'll pay story where were the bodies in the rubble. The only body was in in the rubble was the pilot in fact. They were looking for the pilot, and do you know, they they found the plane round nine o'clock in the morning a little bit earlier..

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"john mueller" Discussed on KLBJ 590AM

KLBJ 590AM

13:45 min | 3 years ago

"john mueller" Discussed on KLBJ 590AM

"Better. And welcome back to coast to coast. Let me tell you about Gary Moore gear the author of the critically acclaimed book playing with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award playing with the enemy is currently option. Does a major motion picture Gary is a contributing author for chicken soup for the father and son soul and self syndicated columnists with a degree in music education from vendor cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often mix his percussive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program and welcome back. I should say George. Thank you so much. It's it's a pleasure to be on end. And it's great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book and. He's one of a kind one of a kind you must know all kinds of musicians to I do. I do it's been a real pleasure. Most of my life. I've been able to be around some of the some of the great ones out out for me. The greatest Graham river was buddy, rich. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. Yeah. I think of this tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in it? You know, I was never buddy Holly fan. Strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who is just that was just the kind of wonderful woman you'd ever meet. Lived in Iowa groping in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I thought the winter dance party knowing her age must've been ballroom dancing. I hadn't thought I should take some dance lessons about later found off found out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactments a reformer by John Mueller who travels with the show he owns the rights now, the winter dance party, and you know, I sat through the. The evening, and it would he was great music and a wonderfully performed. The big Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And he was he was great and emotional than performance. Did Ritchie Valens with outstanding? John Muir, commodity, buddy. Holly was a great, but nothing really trip. My trigger excited me very end of the show. John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy. That he had written. My first thought was gonna ruin a beautiful night and interject something you've written and the song was so haunting captivating when it ended. I wife looked over man. She starts here. Running down my face. She said what happened? What's wrong? And I said, I don't know. And from that moment on I was just almost on an obsession to learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't a write about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about. Who buddy Holly was trying to find stories that people had written about, but? Ended up speaking to barbed wire who is the wife of Jerry Maguire, the man who owned the charter service and one sentence that she said to me, I grew crash and. In my analysis of it. I gotta tell you. It was an incredible story. I was only nine when this thing happened. So I was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left to this plane in what's the big Bopper. Was he the one who was like tossed thirty feet away from everybody else? Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and and very scantily dressed most as close had been removed, which seems shocking would beef so far away and be undressed? But crash investigators will tell you that it's not unusual, and I actually work with a crash investigator from the NTSB is we kind of recreated crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until the spring. No it was snowing when when the crash occurred, and it snowed throughout the night. So as investigators arrived the plane Mary was snow cover, and when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't get all the debris. Well farmer by the last name of jewel with pine the field in the spring. Saw handgun. So he got out of it got out of the garbage cracker picked up the gun with data. And for whatever reason did the dumbest thing do he pointed up here pull the trigger and. And. And so he. Yeah. And so he thought well, okay. I'll take this to the to the sheriff the next day. And he did the sheriff look at it. Then they found out from the serial number that it was registered Charles hardened Holly, which is buddies real name. And that and he recorded in the notes that he'd been one shellfire. Beyond what he fired now. Just one just one just one. But he did not make a note that it was fired by the farmer, and so a few years later the newspapers got hold of it made it sound like something happened in the plane like something. Well, not only that Afrikaner for claimed it when he was taking pictures of the crash he found a bullet hole in the the back of the pilot's seat. And it be and it just became almost standard rock and roll Wisma time that buddy had shocked pilot. Are you convinced at this point Gary that what happened was pilot's error? I am convinced pilots air. Yes. Yes. I I I'm a pilot. And I was also I spent six years my life is a charter operator. And so lot experience with pilots lot experience in airplanes. And it is. So crystal clear, really what happened. You have a twenty one year old pilot who was not instrument rated in the weather was lousy weather was awful. It was just office you'd never flown that day now. Exactly, right. And I I actually received hate mail and threatening mail. I rely. Well, I took the position in in. My book is is we kind of wrote this analysis that the one called, hey, buddy. Yeah. Exactly. And that it was pilot error. And and we we lay out the exact every scenario the crash what happened, and is there is there was this through the years or has become a very strong. I guess lobby. I call it for Jerry Dwyer. Jerry is the charter operator. And Gary had spunk before he passed away his out different theories to kind of make. I guess excuses for the fact that he let that plane take off right? He he wanted to kind of take the load off. And so, you know, when when when you wrote the crash analysis it obviously points to the fact that Jerry was the adult in the room he owned that the airplane. He employed the pilot yet he put a twenty one year old unqualified inexperienced pilot who had a record of suffering suffering from vertigo. In in the pilot's seat of an overloaded bonanza which had had which would having a lot of problem. And you know, the crash laps and five minutes, you know, finalists. Well, was everybody was fries that they that the plane crashed? I would be surprised if it didn't that it even took off. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. It's just. Hitter, they tragedy upon tragedy and the greatest tragedy is the fact that the operator actually, but the plane go in and you know, George he knew. Because the plight left shortly after midnight. And he's charter operator. He spent the whole day with the pilot checking the weather checking the plane he stayed in. It was record cold. It was by most council was with the wind chill was almost thirty below. And we out there with the plane loaded the plane once the plane taxied off he didn't leave and go home. He went up to the when went up to an observation area outside watch the plane take off and stood there until the plane was out of sight, then went to the control tower and tried to contact the plane. And in all my years of operating charter service. I never did that I had qualified pilots if I was at the airport, I'd help load the plane seed off that kind of thing. You know? Was his action says that he was worried he was concerned, and you know, before Jerry Dwyer got home and got bed that night. Those are the plane was dead was crashed though. The. Inhabited since Lang were dead in cold out there in the snow. Why so many conspiracy theories Gary about the crash, well, you know, better than anyone? That's certainly there are conspiracy theories of almost everything anytime time any time that we have people prominent our heroes, especially if they die a. You know, tragic, but explainable death. There's something encoded in our DNA that just doesn't want to believe that doesn't want to check that you're Morrison still alive things like that. Absolutely. Absolutely. In fact, I was just a. Going to the book. I wrote the book ten years go to my notes staff known, and I will ever surprised remember some of that. So many of the theories that I never put into the book that one of them is floating out there now, and it's all over the internet is it did they crash the buddy didn't like his life. And and reappeared a few years later somebody else. That's interesting. Also, there was a theory about a bomb. Right. Putting a plane. Yeah. There is why would that pop up? Well, it is it is it back that during that early kind of rock and roll organized crime, mafia, Cosa, Nostra, whatever you wanna call it. They were really working hard to take over the recording industry, and he's young. You know, these artists were almost all of them were teenagers. They didn't know better they were signing contracts. They shouldn't have signed life way. And they were pursuing buddy pretty hard. But he was resisting and Peggy sue gern who is the famed. Peggy sue of the Tucson hit song. That's right. Yeah. Longtime buddy, our friend. Gary Gary Busey played the buddy Holly in the buddy Holly story in seventy eight by the way. Yeah. Absolutely. I remember him singing that song and didn't incredible job. Yeah. He did. He really incredible job. The Peggy sue said that buddy had called her and talked to her about the fact that he was afraid said they were following the bus. They were they were threatening him Andy the plausible theory. But Georgia the thing that makes it very difficult to believe that that's first of all there was no I got to tell you the wreckage looks like he got blown up. Well, I've never seen a plane more mangled and all my life. Oh, yeah. It it ended up just being a ball of aluminum wire. But but they'd be the crash investigators. We work with said, you know, there was absolutely no evidence of a bomb in the plane if the plane had there have been a bomb on board the plane would have blown apart near the crash site. He pieces would've been everywhere everywhere. And this was a very tight crash site in the plane was almost totally in county in in in in together but mangled mangled. It doesn't look like a plane. No, you would not notice an airplane. Fact tell you a story we're we're the bodies in the rubble the only body that was in in the rubble was the pilot in fact. They were looking for the pilot and they found the plane. Yeah. Round nine o'clock in the morning a little bit earlier..

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"john mueller" Discussed on 710 WOR

710 WOR

13:46 min | 3 years ago

"john mueller" Discussed on 710 WOR

"Snow less sleep better. Welcome back to coast to coast. Let me tell you about Gary Moore. Gary's the author of the critically acclaimed book playing with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award playing with the enemy is currently optioned as a major motion picture, Gary is a contributing author four chicken soup for the father and son soul and a self syndicated columnist with a degree in music education from vendor cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often mix his progressive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program. And welcome back. I should say George. Thank you so much. It's a it's a pleasure to be on. And and it's great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book, and he's one of a kind one of a kind, you must know all kinds of musicians to well. I do I do it's been a real pleasure. Most of my life. I've been able to be around some of the some of the great ones out. You know, you know, for me, the greatest Graham river was buddy, rich. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. Yeah. This tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in it? You know, I was never buddy Holly fan. It's just the strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who is just that was just the kind of was wonderful woman you'd ever meet up. Lived in Iowa grew up in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I thought the winter dance party knowing her age must've been ballroom dancing. I thought I should take dance lessons about later found off found out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactment. It was a was a performer by John Mueller who travels with the show he owns the rights now to the winter dance party. And you know, I sat through the. The evening, and it was he was great music and wonderfully performed. Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And he was he was great and emotional than performance. Did Ritchie Valens was outstanding. John merica models, buddy. Holly with a great. But nothing really tripped. My trigger excited very end of the show. John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy. That he had written. My first thought was you know, you're gonna ruin a beautiful night and interject something you written and the song was so haunting in captivating when it ended I wife looked over me. And she started here running down my face. She said what happened? What's wrong? And I said, I don't know. And from that moment on I was just almost on an obsession to learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't to write about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about, you know, who buddy Holly was trying to find stories that people had written about. But I ended up speaking to barbed-wire who is the wife of Jerry Maguire, the man who owned the charter service and one sentence that she told said to me grooming that a crash and in my analysis of it. I gotta tell you. It was. An incredible story. I was only nine when this thing happened. So I was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left of this plane in what's the big Bopper. Was he the one who is like cost thirty feet away from everybody else? Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and and very scantily drafts. Most of his clothes had been removed, which seems shocking he would beef so far away and be undressed. But crash investigators will tell you that it's not unusual, and I actually worked with a crash investigator from the NTSB is we kind of recreated the crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until the spring. It's not snowing when when the crash occurred, and it snowed. Trout tonight. So as investigators arrive the plane, he was snow covered. And when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't get all the debris. Well farmer by the last name of jewel with the field in the spring, so a handgun. So he got out of the garbage tractor picked up the gun looked at it. And for whatever reason did the dumbest thing do he pointed up here pull the trigger and we're off and so he. Evidence. Yeah. And so he thought well, okay. I'll take this to the to the sheriff the next day, and he did in the sheriff look at it. And they found out in the serial number that it was registered Charles Hardin Holly, which is buddies real name. And that he recorded in the notes that had been one shellfire. Beyond what he fired. No, just one just one just one. But he did not make a note. It was fired by the farmer. And so a few years later newspapers got a hold of it made it sound like something happened in the plane made it happened like something. Well, not only that photographer claimed that when he was taking pictures of the crash he found a bullet hole in the in the back of the pilot's seat. And it and it just became almost standard rock and roll is myth time that buddy has shots. Bislett? Are you convinced at this point Gary that what happened was pilot's error? I am convinced its pilots air. Yes. It's I I I'm a pilot. And I was also I spent six years of my life is a charter operator. And so a lot experience with pilots lot experience in airplanes. And it is. So crystal clear, really what happened. You have a twenty one year old pilot who was not instrument rated in the weather was lousy weather was awful wizard was your office should never flown that day. No. I it's exactly right. And it's amazing. I I actually received hate mail and threatening mail. I rely. Well, I took the position in in. My book is is we kind of wrote this analysis that the one called, hey, buddy. Yeah. Exactly. And th that it was pilot error. And and we we we lay out the exact every scenario the crash what happened, and there is a there was this through the years or has become a very strong. I guess lobby. I'd call it for Jerry Dwyer. Jerry is the charter operator. And Jerry had spunk before he passed away his out different theories to kind of make. I guess excuses for the fact that he let that plane take off he wanted to kind of take the load off. And so, you know, when when when a wrote the crash now asus it obviously points to the fact that Jerry was the adult in the room E onto the airplane. He employed the pilot yet he put a twenty one year old unqualified inexperienced pilot who had a record of suffering suffering from vertigo. In the pilot's seat of an overloaded bonanza, which had cat which would having a lot of problem. And you know, the crash lasted five minutes, you know, finalists was everybody was surprised that they that the plane crashed. I would be surprised if it didn't. Yeah. That it even took off. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. It's just. It is a tragedy upon tragedy and the greatest tragedy is the fact that the operator actually plane go in and you know, George he knew. Because the flight left shortly after midnight. And he's charter operator. He spent the whole day with the pilot checking the weather checking the plane he stayed in. It was record cold. It was by most accounts. It was with the wind chill was almost thirty below. And out there with the plane loaded the plane once the plane taxied off he didn't leave and go home. He went up to the when you went up to an observation area outside watch the plane take off and stood there until the plane was out of sight and went to the control tower and tried to contact the plane and in all my years of operating charter service. I never did that you know, I had qualified pilots if I was at the airport, I'd help load the plane seat off that kind of thing, but you know. He was his action says that he was worried he was concerned, and you know, before Jerry Maguire got home and got bed that night. Those are those the plane was dead crashed though. Inhabited since Blaine were dead and getting cold already out there in the snow. Why so many conspiracy theories Gary about the crash, well, you know, better than anyone? That's certainly there are conspiracy theories of almost everything anytime anytime that we have people of prominence our heroes, especially if they die a. You know, tragic, but explainable death. There's something encoded in our DNA that just doesn't want to believe that doesn't want to accept that. Jim Morrison still alive things like that capsule. Lutely, absolutely. In fact, I was just a kind of going through the book, I wrote the book almost ten years ago. So I was going to my notes staff known, and I was surprised you remember some of that. So many of the theories that I never put into the book, but one of them is floating out there now, and it's all over the internet is it that the crash was fake the buddy didn't like his life and uh and reappeared a few years later somebody else. That's interesting. Also, there was a theory about a bomb. Right. Putting the plane. Yeah. There's why would that pop up? Well, it is it is is the fact that during that early kind of rock and roll organized crime, mafia, Cosa, Nostra, whatever whatever you wanna call it. They were really working hard to take over recording industry, and he's young. He's you know, these artists were almost all of them were teenagers. They didn't know better. They were signing contracts. They shouldn't have signed life way. And they were pursuing buddy pretty hard. But he was resisting and Peggy sue gern who is the famed. Peggy sue of the Tucson hit song. That's right. Yeah. Longtime buddy, our friend. Jerry, Gary Busey played the buddy. Holly in the buddy Holly story in seventy eight by the way. Yeah. Absolutely. I remember him singing that song and didn't incredible job. He did you really incredible job. But the Peggy sue said that buddy had called her and talked to her about the fact that he was afraid said said they were following the bus. They were they were threatening him and the he it's a plausible theory. But Georgia the thing that makes it very difficult to believe that that's the first of all there was no to tell you the wreckage looks like you've got blown up. Well, I've never seen a plane more mangled and all my life. Oh, yeah. It it ended up just being a ball of aluminum and wire, but but they'd be the crash investigators. We work with said, you know, there was absolutely no evidence of the bomb in the plane. I if the plane had there have been a bomb on board the plane would have blown apart near the crash site pieces every. Everywhere everywhere. And this was a very tight crash site in the plane was almost totally in county in in in in together but mangled mangled. It doesn't look like a plane. No, you would not notice an airplane. In fact, tell you a story we're we're the bodies in the rubble the only body that was in the rubble was the pilot in fact. They were looking for the pilot and know they found the plane round nine o'clock in the morning a little bit earlier..

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"john mueller" Discussed on KFI AM 640

KFI AM 640

05:42 min | 3 years ago

"john mueller" Discussed on KFI AM 640

"Less sleep better. KFI AM six forty. And welcome back to coast to coast. Let me tell you about Gary Moore gear the author of the critically acclaimed book playing with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award plane with the enemy is currently option. Does a major motion picture Gary is a contributing author for chicken soup for the father and son soul and the self syndicated columnist with a degree in music education from vendor cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often mix his progressive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program and welcome back. I should say George. Thank you so much. It's a pleasure to be on. And and it's great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book and he's one of. A kind one of a kind you must know all kinds of musicians to. I do I do. It's been a real pleasure. Most my life. I've been able to be around some of the some of the great ones out for me. The greatest Graham river was buddy, rich. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. I think of this tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in it? You know, I was never buddy Holly fan. It's just the strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who is just bad. It was just the kind of wonderful woman you'd ever meet. Lived in Iowa grew up in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I thought the winter dance party knowing her age must have been ballroom dancing. I thought I should take some dance lessons about later found off out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactments a performer John Mueller who travels with the show he owns the rights now, the winter dance party, and you know, I sat through the. The evening, and it was he was great music and wonderfully performed. The big Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And he was great and emotional performance. Did Ritchie Valens was outstanding in January modest buddy. Holly was a great. But nothing really tripped. My trigger excited until the very end of the show John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy. That he had written. My first thought was you know, I ain't gonna ruin a beautiful night and interject something you've written. And the song was so haunting in captivating. When it ended wife looked over man. She started here running down my face. She said what happened? What's wrong? And I said, I don't know. And from that moment on I was just almost on an obsession. Learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't a right about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about, you know, who buddy Holly was trying to find stories that people had written about, but. Ended up speaking to barbed wire who is wife of Jerry Maguire, the man who owned the charter service and one sentence that she told said to me, I did crash and in my analysis of it. I gotta tell you. It was an incredible story. I was only nine when this thing happened. So I was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left of this plane in the big Bopper was he the one who was like tossed thirty feet away from everybody else. Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and and very scantily dressed most of his clothes had been removed, which seems shocking. He would be so far away and be undressed. But crash investigators will tell you that it's not unusual, and I actually work with a crash investigator from the end ESP is we kind of recreated crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until the spring. It's not snowing when when the crash occurred, and it snowed throughout the night. So as investigators arrived the plane area was snow covered. And when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't get all the debris. Well farmer by the last name of jewel was on the field in the spring. So a handgun. So he got out of it got out of the tractor picked up the gun with the it. And for whatever reason did the dumbest thing do he pointed up here pull the trigger.

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"john mueller" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK

NewsRadio KFBK

05:44 min | 3 years ago

"john mueller" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK

"Snow less sleep better. And welcome back to coast to coast. Let me tell you about Gary. Critically acclaimed book playing with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award playing with the enemy is currently option. Does a major motion picture Gary is a contributing author for chicken soup for the father and son soul and the self syndicated columnist with a degree in music education from vendor cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often mix his percussive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program. And welcome back. I should say George. Thank you so much. It's it's a pleasure to be on. And and it's great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book, and he's one of a kind one of a kind you must know all kinds of musicians to I do. I do I've it's been a real pleasure. Most of my life. I've been able to be around some of the some of the great ones out, you know, for me, the greatest Graham river was buddy, rich. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. I think of this tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in you know, I was never buddy Holly fan? Strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who is just was just the kindest most wonderful woman you'd ever meet. Lived in Iowa grew up in in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I thought the winter dance party knowing her age must been ballroom dancing. I thought I should take some dance lessons about later found off found out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactments. It was a a performer by John Mueller who travels with the show he owns the rights now, the winter dance party, and you know, I sat through the. The evening, and it would he was great music and wonderfully performed. The big Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And he he was great and emotional, and the did Ritchie Valens was outstanding and John Mueller modest buddy. Holly was great, but nothing really crypt my trigger excited until the very end of the show. John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy. That he had written. I thought whereas, you know, you're gonna ruin a beautiful night and interject something written. And the song was so haunting captivating. When it ended. My wife looked over me. And she started here running down my face. She said what happened? What's wrong? And I said, I don't know. And from that moment on I was just harmless on an obsession to learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't going to write about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about. You know, who buddy Holly was try to find stories that people had written about, but. Ended up speaking to barbed wire who is the wife Jerry Maguire, the man who owned the charter service and one sentence that she said to me drew me to the crash and in my analysis of it. I gotta tell you. It was. An incredible story. I was only nine when this thing all happened. So I was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left to this plane in the big Bopper was he the one who is like tossed thirty feet away from everybody else. Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and in very scantily dressed most of his clothes had been removed, which seems shocking. He would be so far away and be undressed. But crash investigators will tell you that it's not unusual, and I actually worked with a crash investigator from the ESPN is we kind of recreated the crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until the spring. You know, it's not snowing when when the crash occurred snowed route tonight, so as investigators arrived the plane the area was snow covered. And when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't get all the debris. Well farmer by the last name of jewel was pine the field in the spring, so a handgun. So he got out of it got out of the tractor up. The gun looked at it. And for whatever reason did the dumbest thing still pointed up near pull the trigger. And and.

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"john mueller" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

Newsradio 970 WFLA

05:13 min | 3 years ago

"john mueller" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

"Coast to coast. Let me tell you about Gary Moore gear is the author of the critically acclaimed book playing with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award plane with the enemy is currently optioned as a major motion picture, Gary is a contributing author for chicken soup for the father and son soul and a self syndicated columnist with a degree in music education from vendor cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often mix his progressive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program and welcome back. I should say George. Thank you so much. It's it's a pleasure to be on. And and it's great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book and he's one of. A kind one of a kind you must know all kinds of musicians to well. I do I do I've it's been a real pleasure. Most of my life has been able to be around some of the some of the great ones out to you know, for me, the greatest Graham river was buddy, rich. Yeah. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. Yeah. I think of this tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in it? I was never buddy Holly fan. It's just the strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who is just that was just the kind of wonderful woman you'd ever meet. Lived in Iowa grew up in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I thought the winter dance party knowing her age must've been ballroom dancing. I thought I should take some dance lessons about later found on found out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactments there's a a performer by John Mueller who travels with the show he owns the rights now to the winter dance party. And you know, I sat through the. The evening, and it was he was great music, and you know, wonderfully performed. Big Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And he was he was great emotional than the performance. Did Ritchie Valens was outstanding. John, Merrick models, buddy. Holly who had a great, but nothing really tripped my trigger excited until the very end of the show John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy that he had written. My first thought was you know, you're gonna ruin a beautiful night and interject something you've written and the song was so haunting in captivating when it ended my wife looked over at me, and she saw tears running down my face. She said what happened was wrong? And I said, I don't know. And from that moment on I was just almost on an obsession to learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't going to write about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about, you know, who buddy Holly was trying to find stories that people had written about but ended up speaking to barbed wire who is the wife of Jerry Dwyer the man who owned the charter service and one sentence that she said to me, I grew a crash and in my analysis of it. I gotta tell you. It was an incredible story. I was only nine when this thing happened. So I was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's a it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left of this plane in what's the big Bopper. Was he the one who is like tossed thirty feet away from everybody else? Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and and very scantily dressed most of his clothes had been removed, which seemed shocking he would be so far away and be undressed. But crash investigators will tell you that it's not unusual, and I actually worked with a crash investigator from the NTSB is we kind of recreated the crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until the spring. It's not snowing when when the crash occurred, and it snowed throughout tonight. So as investigators arrived the plane, Mary was snow covered. And when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't get hall the debris. Well farmer by the last name of jewel with.

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