17 Burst results for "John Moxley"
"john moxley" Discussed on The Corner
"You needed to be. I think it's great. I thought something was going to the few Lo and behold two hours beforehand. They told me that this is GonNa be a one off and. Use it as an excuse, and we're only going to see John Moxley do another few someone else activates especially with Marxist. And he looks over at Archer and they have a staredown in. It's like faulk your those another one. One thing he said they couldn't. Do. This match was really good. It wasn't great. This was a really good moxie match because they were really creative on how they got to the finish and the near falls and the aspect of Jeff trying to keep the matching the ring, and then still trying to find ways of like this was a good mg match just as much as good boxing match. This was a good match. I hated that I kind of knew what the finish was going to be well, not the finish WHO's GonNa win although finish was very creative MDF trying to get over by using the diamond ring, but he gets caught moxie catches referee. Looking. With, a paradigm shift. Brilliant, I thought the ending was great. It's brilliant. If this few keeps going, because MDF shows up next week says you didn't really beat me used a paradigm shift that was a bad move I want a rematch. That is what needs to happen archer that shit can wait. And it has to wait but they're not gonNA. Do it they gotta stop as one often this is a feud. Let them few. I do. Let's get to it. Let's have more conversations. Let's have more MGM jumping Moxley. Let's do whatever we gotta do to keep this thing going because it shouldn't android here. It just shouldn't. Now. Agree it. Just. Feels like there's so much more there. And Anti showed that he can deliver the match, meet him to deliver in these big spots. You didn't seem out of place at all. wardlow. Word brace. At this point if MD okay do it by himself might as well. Just. Yet so we'll close with this before we move on W. This. All felt like a culmination of were just getting out of this corona bullshit. So let's close the books on all this. So we can go back to what we were supposed to do in the first place. That's what it felt like to me very similar to, and we'll spend a lotta time on this the new Japan show. Have you watched the yet. Do you know what happened yes. I accordingly group Chat Okay 'cause people who listeners like got you need to watch it but anyway. But nights will getting his titles back, fill very arbitrary 'cause it was the match connoisseur in evil should have never been there in the first place. It was all done because of the pandemic to get the titles off room to put somebody in bullet club because he didn't know how long these travel bans going to happen, and now they're slowly lifting. We're getting closer G one. So we're going to put things back to where they were. This is what all out felt like. All right. WE'RE GONNA go back to what things work is probably Omega page probably should add the titles this long. Moxley's probably going to get into an actual feud at some point. Pot comes back sooner than later because they really missing him right now. So, this is like the end of a weird era of Awa. Wrestling. That's what it felt like. Hopefully, they can figure this thing out because I was not quite over yet still don't have capacity you with fans. He still doesn't storyline issues that they need to fix. The the pay per view was fine but it was their worst pay per view and they need to figure this out. Now I don't want to have to sit through another four and a half hour pay per view cut this shit up. No I agree I. Wait. And glad the final match up to what was supposed to be in a great title match but they really could've. Shave this down and I would have been way more hype by the time. This got I was tired man like I was watching higher. I'm watching it in the middle of the day and I'm tired I can't imagine what you guys are going shit show. Crazy. All right. Let's take a quick break. When we come back, we'll talk on WBZ wrap up this week show artists. The first show of this week guy stay tuned. We'll be.
"john moxley" Discussed on Paradigm Shift Wrestling
"Boko a cup of water off with Rising Omega vs. McIntyre McIntyre one. Yeah McIntyre fucking squash that little flight. It's Spanky with some Canadian bacon. Triple H versus Martin Pro will not squirrel Triple H would squash him. He is a mid Carter from the early 2000s. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep, John Moxley vs will ospreay and John Moxley was the name. John Moxley vert will ospreay. Yeah, I'll have to go box. Yep. That's Royal cry about it for two weeks. So read versus Kevin Owens. Kevin Owens Which read one versus Jericho Jericho? And then, Jonah, why didn't you tell me I was doing that you had this song on this last one and only received one. It was Pentagon versus night. Otherwise no tomato. That's a hard one. I'd have to say enter in a democracy Pentagon. You know, I love to see the jacket with your deal with you dealing angel angel Pearce. You have said oh video Church. Correct real life. Definitely. Yeah, absolutely. I think Pentagon jr. Is he's English can get better. He could definitely be a big big star in WWE and and even aw, he's he's he's pretty much taught himself English and you know, his English isn't bad that like if you're going to put him as your main eventer, you know, she needs to be able home in English. Yeah, I can draw and draw day. That's probably his biggest downfall and his English. Yeah, and that's probably why they got is Elena Vega with him home. Yeah. We did the top of the balcony showing with the wrestler that has all the technical skills, but just missing one thing would just the ability to talk off. That's the thing man. Like it's I understand why WWE in a lot of promotions. I want to get, you know International markets and that's great but off. You know, they have to be able deliver it. Like there's more countries in the world that speak English that are following the WWE and how UW that they need to have someone who can articulate in that language that's off this game. Sorry wasn't yeah. I mean shinsky shinsuke can talk English but he's off I think it's a it's about him not talking English. Well, I think it's his accent which really hinders it and it's kind of like Great Khali Great Khali can speak English, but you know, when hear him talking that song Indian accent and being sort of being in a really deep voice, it's like yeah, it's hard to understand. Yeah he is. So, I mean we were about to close out. Would y'all like to put your wrestling when tragedy one of the greatest podcast there is only second thoughts. Yeah. I'm talking now that I'll go ahead. Go ahead. One of the best podcasts out there right now wrestling with tragedy with these two fine. Gentlemen, I had shyt I think Jane got the sheets of that comment and left fucking Canadian trick em, I think wrestling with tragedy I'll hear you now is here. I definitely think that you know with us wrestling with tragedy. We've definitely come a long way where 17 episode in we're now on the Vince Russo Network Angel just finished up doing a podcast within her mean one of the main guys over at the Russo Network myself. I'm going to be doing a podcast later tonight wage. With one of the guys as well associated with all tomorrow morning for you guys with some guys from the Russo Network. So it's going to be it's a great, you know thing that we're on this road with Thursday. We're getting a lot of support from these guys. A lot of the viewers are viewing numbers are going up and up a lot of great feedback and coming in from the guys. We're looking at really branching out pretty on podcast platforms and other sort of network ways as well just to get the name out of it name out there and it's really come a long way and I I knew had the legs to go as far as age where it's gone, but I just didn't think it was going to come this quickly much like Angel in the bedroom, you know, just it's been happening really question. Because I'm just hey, I'm like a one-round heavyweights tried. All I need is just one hit and knock them out, you know, but you know, you know, but let me explain to you pierce. You don't get person a text messages from Steve Richard saying thanks brother for being on my show you get you get get messages from Crocodile Dundee and the Irwin family about the koalas. Hi, ma'am. Don't you talk shit about the you know, the quality and Beautiful Creatures and if they they become drop is dead. Now poor service quality kind of like Josh and they just started twenty-four-seven. You know, man. No seriously wage is better shut your mustache. I wanted to say I really appreciate you guys having me on the show. I really appreciate you guys supporting restroom tragedy. Like I said, Is D hottest show up there right now. I mean, I mean, of course Paradise just a close second. But yeah, but the thing is that I'm proud to be shooting the shittiest job cool. Yeah co-host with. I was was going to mention that then, Pierce I was going to mention that as well. So and that's I mean, like said it it's moving real fast is wage. I mean it just moving fast and it's just hard to take it all in since it's just it's just blown up so fast, so it'd just be expected for a lot of moisture it happening with the three of us to be able come together like that we have in this and and Angel Kevin until my best friend in the world and for us to be able to to be doing this show and then to be able to connect straight away and have that chemistry with the three of us and be able to sort of have that banter back and forth and have these difference of opinions and you know, these discussions were really able to sort of get all of our points across and and Thursday. It's it's an amazing project to be a part of I'm having a lot of fun with it and it's just who knows where the future is going to take it. You know, the future is looking bright. We've I mean, that's exactly how long this kind of came together. We're three guys that didn't know each other at all before.
"john moxley" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"Mike. I appreciate your time. No problem. Jonathan. Glad to be out with you Want to get your thoughts? Well, first and foremost, you know, the biggest story in wrestling. This week is the Rock is the new older off the XFL. He and his ex Danny Garcia and another investor have bought into the XFL. Just like I just think it's pretty clear now, if we didn't know before he is just the biggest box office success away from the W W E that we've ever seen. Yes, she is. And it's kind of cool if he had different toe into football, And as we're talking about my podcast, which we recorded earlier today with Christianity, Windy City podcast. We're thinking that Okay, David, this is a road for the body to get into the NFL. Maybe this is a started baby. Okay. If you could help run the XFL kind of making a little bit successful at that level. Okay, Maybe he'll get in the NFL. I think they did. A nice door opens from the rock. And so there's no doubt Mike. Do you think about all the greats that we've ever seen and them being able to get into Hollywood do some movies. There's a lot of rustlers in the past, but nothing like the rock The rock number one in Hollywood and now trying to is now one of the owners of these XFL Minutes is the biggest thing for the next rustler that I think that we've ever seen, they really is. Get him out even more into the mainstream up. He's like you're right. He's like the number one guy. How good right now. And if you asked somebody on the street, Who's Dirac? Who was Dwayne Johnson? I think 95% of the people are going to know who that is. It's great for wrestling, too. Just because his name is out there, and I think people realize that this is a guy that used to Russell and now he's huge and movies, sports tickets, nothing but great for the business. The windy city slam dot com to check out the Windy City Slam podcast with Mike Pankow. He joins me Jonathan Hood on Tuesday, wrestling Tuesday on ESPN 1000 and the ESPN Chicago APP. When I ask you about two main organizations and wrestling, I'll start you with a W As a matter of fact, we have been to a W shows before together. I want to find out your thoughts on the state of a W's things that you like, and things that your question. Well, I will say that I think a little Paying too much attention for the ratings. I did only con and Chris Jericho all making a big deal about it. Yeah, they're beating next, which is supposedly the W W E third brand. Congratulations. Good job, guys. I I love the product. Don't get me wrong, but I think on your competition rather than focusing on the on the actual parking, so they have to get away from that. I think the show itself is a pretty solid show. Cody Rhodes is a great storyteller. Visions of a wrestling the race I love. John Moxley is the champion to see if it is M. J F. Forget the next shot at John Moxley. Maybe it all out coming up in a few weeks. Socially. I don't think it's going to be in Chicago like it was supposed to be doing the pandemic. Overall, I think W's been great for the business, and the one thing I love about a view is that Tuesday in May, a W dark show on YouTube. I think it's an opportunity for a lot of younger talents. Guys on the indie scene it of comment. We've had guys on this cargo area. Come in. Like Robert, you go, Anthony Show a lot so fearless Moose, among others, Captain Sean Bean. We've done some great stuff on that show against talents, maybe more mobile towels. On the carpet guys like Scorpio, Sky. Even Brian Caves made appearances on their rustle some of these guys, so I think he does. He does great jumping off point for a lot of guys. The W Party overall. I'm very pleased with. I think they still have a few things to learn. But I think Cody actually knows what he's doing. Tony Con people called Sam Boyd on it. I think he's doing a really, really good job. I just think they get that stuff focusing on the ratings war and focus on the fly from the ring. About what's happening with the W W E you know my major issue amongst others. Mike is that whatever you have in your locker room you have to build on Whether you like the talent or not. If you're Vince McMahon and the writers, you have to be able building. What's in your locker room is here is the equivalent of it right. The equivalent of it is watching, resting in the eighties and watching Hogan and watching Ric flair and watching Dick Bock Winkle whatever the rest of the eighties, and the announcer's always talking about. Well, you know, Hogan's great, but Bruno Sammartino was even better. And here's why or Ric flair being in there, But yet the announcer's talking about Holly race and Dori funk on and You know the way a nick back wiggles Great boy. Verne was what way better. My point is, is that the W W E with this crunk, the current Product right now continues to reflect aunts passed by giving us Shane McMahon the other night Ric flair, although their legends and it's like really it's about today. It's about 2020 and having people invest in your talent today, but they continue everytime that Debbie W. Is losing in the ratings when having a conference call with the investors. Just bring out the legends, and I'm just thinking, What about what's in your locker room? Either they're good enough or you have to change it. Yeah, I mean, even ej who's brought back this year, But I'm glad to see EJ bed, but yeah, the younger guys are the future. I mean, even I just tweeted something a little while ago on Windy City slam on Twitter about Ali not being a guy that's being pushed. Mike Bennett actually tweeted out that why is he not a top guy? I really liked my stuff. I'll lead to Chicago Kid trained in the area. I think he's got everything that they need their street process. I mean, guys like that in the women's division is phenomenal, and I think the whole double the rocket is still the best of all roster in the world and how it's being this mismanages kind of bothersome. I mean, it's some Kind of crazy and You know, I glad this true McIntyre get a shot. I mean, only took like 10. 11 years to get other than that, you know, in a style had to be lifted up by the undertaker. A J and his own merits. Couldn't actually you know, kind of be a top guy without having to face the undertakers. Don't you lot love taker and again that's going back to the old well and have done that. With triple age. They've done it even with Shawn Michaels in Saudi Arabia. That was crazy. What that kind of tarnished with ex player a number of years ago and I declare the undertaker walk tired. The match of the undertaker WrestleMania. I mean, I think that ball tarnished because of that needed flares, tarnishing himself going to impact after he lost Shawn Michaels, because actually, I was thinking of earlier. But, yeah, I mean, going back to the well. Just way too much. I love nostalgia as much as anybody, but they're just so many talents now that they can focus on and make the product better. Michael Glad you spent some time with me, man. Thanks so much for coming on the show. No problem. Jonathan. Have a good night. It's Mike Pankow with us here on Tuesday, wrestling Tuesday we thank you for being part of the programme here on ESPN 1000 thanks to Sean Davis on the outside the glass tomorrow. It will be the baseball show starting at six o'clock on Wednesday, Right after Waterloo and Sylvia, If you don't catch me there, catch me earlier at noon. I'll be on first. Take your take. On ESPN News and ESPN radio. Allright, thanks.
"john moxley" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"So this one's nice. Awesome show. I will give you Ah! Not going to spoil it, but I will tell you I will give you this information. Tomorrow night, I'll dynamite there will be a big surprise. And one that made me exceedingly happy, especially the especially for kind of more hard core fans are gonna fall the scene. Around the world. You're going to get a big surprise. Andi will be even more casual fans are first time viewers. Moxley Monthly. Yeah, Absolute street. Locksley. Your undeterred There will be a monthly Moxley. Listen to me. You were doing an interview, and then you went straight into promotion. And you did it. The craft is way possible with There'll be a surprise tomorrow night. Come on, Moxley. He's got moxy. Come on, Professional. That's not the first time I've done this your 34 years old and it takes you two hours to stop creaking in the morning. Yeah, I mean, I'm living living the dream. Alright, good talking to you. We appreciate it didn't always used to be John Moxley, though. No, I'm wondering by the way a W Dynamite. Ares was the night eight. Eastern Artie. It's he's the world champion. Had a Jonathan David good become John Moxley. Actual name was there's a longer story. That's not interesting, but it was just given to me by an older wrestler randomly. Two minutes for walked out from the very first match. When I was 18 years old, and I just kept it ever since. I like it. It's very good. Thank you, John. We appreciate the time the champion. Thank you, sir. Hold that thought. Let's sell some ad. You got to tell the people about draft kings get in on the action sports coming back this week. Grab your peanuts and popcorn. Baseball is back. I said peanuts. That's right. The boys will be getting back out of the diamond. This were your peanuts, he said. And while we may not be able to join them.
"john moxley" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"I mean no disrespect. I don't know I am ignorant to some of the modern wrestling. Mike Ryan tells me that a W is actually doing it better than your traditional sports, and he's the W world champion right now, Mike before we get to John Moxley, can you tell me your degree of excitement in this guest and How he does his job. Love mocks, and he's a great talker on the microphone. So hopefully this is ah fun interview and I haven't raised expectations too much. Alright. Well, John, thank you for joining us. I wonder your your character for the uninitiated like me or who you are as a wrestler. How would you describe that to the uninitiated? That is pretty tough question, because I pretty much just Go out there and be myself in the, uh, the standard rule of thumb wrestling for Ah, good President Character, you know that really cliffs Almost owners is See yourself with the cliches of yourself with the volume turned up to 11. So, uh, I'm pretty ah, pretty aggressive, pretty in your face. If you imagine me it's going to be a fight to the You know? Well, your guess It's that death match thing. You're insane is what it is right If your your brand is insane Not not so much insane. Like a lot of people say that the disputes crazy. I don't know. I don't think I'm a pretty rational and a pretty logical outlook on everything isn't being insane. And just like not given our you know, I just don't give up. I don't care, you know, like London is a long time I've been through Just about everything he possibly go through. So like I'm not going to be like inseminated by pretty much anything. So I know the drill. Basically, you know, like if there's some big, strong heroes like that is ever in the world Final against a guy named Brian Cage looks like something out of a superhero comic book, You know, but it's like they're yelling and screaming at me and trying to get me intimidated. I'm like, I don't know You can't throw me around from me on the head. It's going to hurt. I don't know. Like I'm so used to being in pain at this point, you know? You know, you can't really saved me. We'll explain this to me when you say I've been through all of it. What are you talking about there, and specifically what are you talking about? As it regards the physical pain. Well, I mean wrestling's most Most physical sport, you know, in the world that athletes, football players and people from other sports, you know, think like, Oh, it's You just walk right in there and do that, Because you know, it's not a real competition. Anybody can do that, right. It's not a case at all, actually is one of the hardest things to master the intellectual side in the physical side. And you know, I don't know what all I've been through everything or whatever. It's not just, you know, getting slammed on Jackson barbed wire and thrown off a cages and set on fire and all that. That's all the easy part. Like, you know, just Years and years of being on the road. I mean the easel part of today's year for years and years, like night in night out. Slammed working through injuries. You know, it just takes on your body, but I was pretty good place. Seriously right now. So, uh, on the second hold on, Hold on, John. So the easy part you just described, I believe is being thrown on barbed wire and being set. On fire. That's the thing you just did. And you didn't even mention the staph infection that nearly killed you. Yeah, That's not fun. Now. That's not fun. But surgery's hospital stuff is fun. I've been pretty lucky. I've only had one issue that required surgery and they required like three of them. It was like a Streisand prepare. Then I was in a specially to go back in for staph infection and then back in again over a year later to get rid of the rest of the staff protection, so really only one issue. I'm pretty looking overall. I'm just used to. Ah, just like people. How do you feel today? And it's like my baseline is like I feel like crap. So I'm so used to like being in pain. All right, John, But this is it's It's pretty Chill morning here, like nine in the morning. So like, you know, I'm still like I could barely move at this point, you know? Holding used electric train early in the morning, so I have to get up. Have you get up at least like about training nine. I gotta get up at seven. So just take me that long to lose my body. This has gotten very dark. Jon. Jon, Look, You're the champion. You're miserable. Hold on a second. You're the champion. And I don't want to be reminded that you guys die early because you're in so much damn pain. I don't want to talk about all the pain killers that you have to take in order to get through your day. It makes me sad. No look, Luckily our generation now that we kind of left back to the generations learn from mistakes of the past generations. You really want to see a lot of that anymore. You know, we've got a good, healthy young generation, you know, But I'm the luckiest guy in the world. I'm the happiest guy in the world that I'm living my dream. I'm on top of the world right now, mate. Every world champion and I'm loving it Part of the best of the best selling product on TV Right now, A W dynamite on Wednesday nights. You know if you're resting, man, if you've ever been arresting Stan, you know we were kid in any point your life a lot of people. You are the quarterback last man. You know, I used to watch that thing back in the day, but I don't have that kind of corny and watch it anymore. Well, you're kind of guy. You know, we're trying to bring back in. You know where a lot of old standing and made him fans again. He does not know the same old crafted used to seeing on TV. That's just kind of got to blame. You know where exciting. We're bringing out surprises. We have no Basically, no rules, Tio what we do, You could see anything on dynamite. You know, there's so much creativity or we have, like the greatest coolest youngest roster of Ah The most incredible high flyers, saying athletes just doing stuff that I blow your mind and nobody here. You know, under any restrictions or anything is singing. Everybody go out there and just put on Billy's out there. Everything they're putting on authentic performances being themselves Lane on the line and everybody on dynamite every week. What's their ass? And when we put in We really go for it. Try to put on a show that is, you know, dynamite that is explosive. That's like We want To us everything A week is we're trying to hook do fans What? Some of their flipping through the channels to be like, And that was cool and then hope them back. So tonight there every single Wednesday night for us. There's a playoff game. It's a Super Bowl or whatever you know, it's like a jet hook new fans and blow away our Justin fans and keep up on the expectations. So this one's nice. Awesome show. 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"john moxley" Discussed on Busted Open
"She got your. You've got your cody Rhodes and Lance Archer and you got your Brodie Lee and John Moxley and then you had the ridiculous spectacle of the stadium stampede. Like I think they gave you a little bit of everything where everyone can be happy And listen Wednesday night if if if you know the inner circle having their Pep Rally. Wasn't your thing well annex t you had Timothy Thatcher Matt Riddle in a fight pit match. That was amazing and physical and completely the opposite of what you were getting on a e W. That's the beauty of Wednesday nights. You have two sides of the coin so at the same time on Wednesday night you had one of the most physical most realistic matches that I've seen in years. And then a w you had kind of like a bit of a slapstick comedy in the spectacle and then the celebrity with Mike Tyson. I mean all of that encompasses pro wrestling but you're getting both sides and again. How if you're a wrestling fan? You're gonNa tell me on Wednesday nights. There's not one thing that you can attach yourself to. If you thought that W is ridiculous. Then watch annexed t if annex was a little bit too much wrestling and a little a little bit. Too much physical physicality entertainment. Turn it over day W went. That's the beauty of Wednesday night and that's the beauty of having to shows on at the same time as well. I know for myself. I'm watching both. I'm dvr in both. And I'm GonNa make sure that I watch both. I just don't right now. It's very very hard to complain about what. You're seeing on Wednesday nights man. I was on backstage Tuesday and we had double J. Jeff Jarrett on and Jeff was like a man. It's been a long time since I watch wrestling. I smiled and laughed that I wouldn't like focus like what's going to happen. He's laughing and smiling and that's what everybody is tuning in to see. I love the fact. That A W is had the stampede match. And you know you had mad hardy changing into different gimmicks underwater and you had The suplexes one hundred yards and suplexes and I was hoping that they would When they got about the twenty he's twenty the fifteen the five curse that way known it up for fun. Entertainment to our mind works around. What's going on in in what we're seeing and you get to the wwe. Listen is people have been very critical. And I've been very critical of Debbie programming as far as the way that I would like to see it. It's not my company you know. I'm not calling the shots I can say on this show what I wanna see but then make what I won't happen but what has happened is I have seen a lot of things lately happened on. Wwe programming that we talk about on this show so we have the same opinions most of the time as what the W is doing on their so so man like we got the best of both worlds.
"john moxley" Discussed on The Forecast with Harry Enten
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"john moxley" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"Like I kept loosing brought from just look another guy right now like how is that possible and that's where I think some of their issues lie is that you gotta define some of these I think incredibly talented in ring performance I'm somebody loved Ambrose right and I do think that with the loss as well I think like you know his John Moxley thing is like is an apple is an excellent excellent character and so yeah I mean again I never write the B. W. we at the W. W. I didn't write the organization not because they're they're they're too big they have so much marketing might but I do feel like they are a bit of a creative funk right now I do love him and I think he's a genius you know I do so I I think you know if anybody can sort of pull them out of this a little bit he'd be one but they really I mean wrong at times honestly is unwatchable and I feel like smack down a lot of time he just I don't know if you do that well John but what time did you take their gift FOR through it until like maybe there's a pointer to where I'm kind of interested in but I can't remember the last time I watched they feel maybe except back down here with you know what box will fall out of the C. W. B. went all out I can't remember last summer actually sat and watched a show without that flowed into stuff okay Eric you start to sweat now because we gotta go because that's radio Richard Deitsch sports media with Richard Deitsch that in the don't forget that's the podcast review download the podcast also the up like dot coms we could find Richard as well you see that see that now see we have you have you on again long form to talk about this because you don't get a chance talk about on your own show the job of just when you think you have all the answers I will always try to change the questions I appreciate I appreciate very much the end but thank.
"john moxley" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast
"In America this past Sunday <hes> but yeah I'm looking at the the standings now and you know you think about the big story coming into this show or into this tournament was the newcomers uh Shingo Takagi and we'll osprey coming from the <hes> junior heavyweight division Jon Moxley Kanta coming in it's free agents basically and participating in you the those four are in two very distinct groups right now Jon Moxley sitting here as the leader of the B-block with ten points the next two behind signed him are itchy and Robinson with with six and time is running out for them to do anything so Moxley undefeated now did he did? He say I'll come. Come in and work your tournament but I'm not losing. Did he pull. I don't do job like I'm starting to wonder about it. I figured he'd be treated as a big star because he was a huge free agent as big afraid we've seen in years in the pro wrestling scene so I figured he do L. But I'm white at two and three with four points points Mosley dominating five and no right and I've surprised especially with Mosley's contract situation where he's going to be w come October. I'm sure he'll still do some shots for new Japan when he can but it's not like this is the start of a year long John Moxley in new Japan full-time deal you know so <hes> <hes> his success has surprised me a little bit <hes> Kenta with eight points. He's second place right now in the block behind Okada who's undefeated as well L. and so you know I he's another one that I thought like Moxley would come in maybe win. The first couple of matches he had to prove that he's Kenta and he's not Hideo Tommy and then maybe kind of fall into the middle of the pack as the tournament on so the fact that he's had staying power through the first <hes> number of shows always here is is really telling to me and then you got the junior heavyweights who takagi with four and Osprey with four for who <hes> if five was surprised at how high Moxley and Kenta have gone. I'm surprised at how low <hes> these two have done you know there's a lot of coming off the tournaments they were in the junior heavyweight tournament and the Buzzer on us free for wrestler of the year if world. I'm really surprised ah I thought he would have had a stronger tournament. <hes> even more so than to Kati. I thought he would have done okay <hes> but I thought Osprey would have been in that conversation Shen for for a top tier <hes> just based on the buzz he had at that time and instead not a lot has been made about these two junior heavyweights who wanted to throw throw their hat in the ring and prove they belong with the heavyweights and right now you know you could make the argument that they haven't made that <hes> that argument yet you at least you could have some some a faith that it's part of a long term story arc over the next six years the way that New Japan bucks you know it's all coming three years from now. We'll look back. Oh that's why they did that ad and you know they had it in mind..
"john moxley" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"Now of the brand new all elite wrestling now it's amazing twenty years ago I was doing wrestling conversation for those those are you that the list to me for a long time used to do a wrestling show on a regular basis when pro wrestling was hot when it was the W. W. F. at the time against WCW what's coming back now we're wrestling there's a lot of different factions a lot of different companies across the country around the world and people are into it again Jim Ross who was with the WWE for a long time is now with all league wrestling he is their play by play man Jim is a frequent guest on the show we talk a lot of football and of course wrestling because that's his background so I ask it'll J. R. Jim Ross about dean Ambrose who's now John Moxley his real name and and all elite wrestler you can follow along by the way on Twitter at wrestling TWT and of course we got our own podcast as well for Tuesday wrestling Tuesday something I do every Tuesday night after SmackDown live on the USA network so Jim Ross I asked him a number of questions about this new company that's run by all the wrestling so John Moxley the who used to be dean Ambrose his thoughts on John Moxley and how he's doing right now on a new company really a new lease on life actually you know so celebrating years new lease on his professional life with all the information and and the skills that he's developed over a career as a name the rest are going through the performance center I remember industry Rosen ironically call him master I guess it's for the whole facility sure was there on Dale Maybury in Tampa for a source of sort of care should present so and we both work I remember no Sir busy work with both the William regal and they had a hell.
"john moxley" Discussed on Bill and Frank Eat Pop Culture
"Is fantastic. In tights, entites, the death writer John Moxley to do you have the car for Steiner on you right there. Okay. Here we go down what we got in store. You mean you me in the in the one, they call Liam will be in? Johnny will be watching this together this weekend. That's true. We are going on team. Franken. Billy pop culture vacation together, which, which we can talk about later, I annual the first annual Bill. Frankie pop culture, crews which were the only ones that signed up the first annual Frankie pop culture summit, it's like the MTV beach house. Yeah, we need Eric needs. We didn't recognise with us. Ooh. The first match. I, I mean these I don't think these are listed in any particular order. But we have the smackdown tag team championships being contested, the champions, Daniel Bryan, and Rowen versus heavy machinery, Otis, and Tucker by I mean me. that reminds me one of the best things about raw was row ins glory. Hammer t shirt. It was awesome. Is that out of all the Wyatt's row in is the only one currently on in a ring although you know what we can talk about that later. But I think he may come back at this paper view, I think Bray may come back. I don't know if you saw his firefly funhouse thing on raw. I did it seemed like he exit at the end. Yeah. He's kind of go. He's completely gone off the rails. Yes. So he, he showing up at this, pay per view on raw Monday. I think anyway, I got minor have much to say about Daniel Bryan Rohan versus heavy machinery, heavy machinery. Seems to me like they're bound for comedic tag-team Ville. They're the they're the two sexy of two thousand nineteen the they remind me of the Godwin's. Yeah. They're like if the Godwin's into sexy had a tag team baby. Yeah. It's a shame because in the midst of all this terribleness by WWE, Dan, O'Brien's he'll characters like the best thing on the on the show. He was fantastic last night when he came out eight part of LA he's great impotent. But, you know, I would imagine Daniel Bryan Rohan will retain their titles here. I can't imagine them putting the belts on heavy machinery right now. I don't see Daniel Bryan dropping the belt at at a stomping ground. Right. Especially I mean it's sort of a home game for Dana Brian. It's into coma Washington, which is. Relatively close for MBA. That's his backyard. Also a sign that WW struggling, they're holding pay per views in Tacoma, Washington. But that's I guess I would love to hear what Eric Bischoff would have to say about that. But aren't so after we have the new day, big E, N Xavier woods versus Kevin Owens in Sammy's, Jose, which is actually pretty good. That's actually pretty good match. That was one of my other favorite parts of raw. This week was Sammy's air guitar when they came out everyone that like three times, I couldn't stop laughing that in Owens reading off the cue cards was hilarious when Owens was like wrestle, and then flip the card over was like mania. Again. I mean that'll be a good match in terms of work rate. And I guess they've sort of been rivals, but doesn't feel like there's much at stake. I wish Kevin Sammy had a bigger part to play somewhere. But I guess, should just be thankful there on the show. Yeah. Kinda kinda surprised. They don't have more of a role for caffeine right now being that. He's obviously he's while I should say, obviously. But in my opinion, one of their most charismatic stars that they have. I mean you can make an argument is the top heel on raw. I mean, I don't think anybody really thinks it's barren Corbin. So I think I think Vince does after that we have wrestlemainia rematch Roman reigns. Drew McIntyre, which, you know, I'm sure we'll be decent. The wrestlemainia match was decent. Sure, this'll land right in the two and a half star vicinity. I think drew McIntyre is great. I think he should have a world title reign sometime this year. But I think he's also way better when he's working with somebody a little smaller than him so he can use his power. I'm sure this'll be fine. I'm sure Shane will do something. You think this? We get the clean match or do we do. We definitely get Shane interference right? Shane possibly the revival because they're not on the card anywhere else unless they end up on the pre show or something. I hope they do interfere. They're wearing they're, they're button down shirts in dress slacks. They're actually really underrated these. I mean everybody's been saying that, but hopefully they get this continued push because I like them. I do too. Again, this is the so far is just like so vanilla like I just don't care got. Okay, so here's the match, which I think, could steal the show and the only one I'm legitimately intrigued by United States champion Samoa, Joe taking on Ricca shea for the United States title you love. I'd love ricochet, and I it doesn't make any sense. I know it doesn't make sense, 'cause he's such a spot monkey. And he's like one of the kings of the eighty four thousand false finishes in a match and. Spot after spot after spot. But I think working with somebody like Joe where it's not another cruiserweight. It has a chance to be like a really cool contrast of styles. I've been waiting patiently for what seems like forever now for Samoa Joe to have like a classic rivalry WWE really since he. I mean he came out of the gate and had the rivalry with sina which was great. And then hasn't it's been like two years and hasn't done really anything else. Yeah. He's kind of just been floating around like on the floor. Poke his head. And every once in a while, not really not really involved in any, I guess he had that feud with AJ which had a little. The one that would be the one that like was half decent when he was like being weird with AJ wife and shit like that. And I think that's where they were headed with Ray to before Ray got hurt. He was like an fuck with race son and stuff like that. But. Was gonna fuck race on, like whoa will not be. I mean that's real. That's very FOX, though. That's very like, oh man. Now, they're ws really at war if when they start doing that kind of stuff, what were you going to call it? The wrestler on wrestler, son, rape is always. It's always a sign that it is. It is. It's a side that, you know there's competition lurking in the waters. But I think that, that's that. I mean it's not like lying match. But like it's the one I wanna see most I mean, we got one two, three four five more to talk about. But to me, that's the that's the one that could be good. Yeah. It's different. Yeah, exactly. It's a fresh a fresh matchup. I'm not sure that they've ever had a one on one in any kind of spotlight. So I mean that's pretty cool after that we got the two the two different women's title matches. First smackdown women's championship Bailey defending against Alexa bliss, which I guess could be happy. I don't know that they've wrestled a ton. I think Bailey's been actually pretty amazingly sort of brought back to life in the last couple of weeks. I thought she was dead and buried for a while. I mean, if a fucking championship ring doesn't bring it back to life than might as well is not just the championship rain. It's that plus Dave's like sort of subtly, or not that subtly, tweaked her character where. She's not quite as huggy, and she's got a little bit more of an aggressive streak, which I think is helped a mean streak. I mean streak exactly. Alexa, bliss this another thing where a kind of talked about this before I don't really know. I don't think they know where they're going with her yet. She sort of been tweeting the last couple of months as like a she obeyed face. She he'll is Nikki helping her over as a baby faces. She not, I don't think they know what they wanna do with her. So to me that adds up to Bailey, not dropping the belt this quickly. You have any thoughts. I I'm glad that I'm glad that Alexis back in the fold. I love Alexa bliss. I, I think she's fantastic. Yes, she's she is very, very hot in. I think I honestly I mean, I hope they don't go baby face with her because I mean, I know eventually, everybody's gotta turn at some point, but I feel like the women's division is a. Is more, you know, fallow place when she's not? In it being a big being being a he'll say, wow. So, yeah, I mean, Bailey as the chair like I like what they did at money in the Bank. I don't know that. I don't know that I'm thirsty for like a Bailey run. But. But yeah I mean but I also understand you can't just constantly put the belt on Alexa bliss. So I don't think I think Bailey retains once again, like I don't see a title change at stomping ground. And I don't even know that we get a clean finish on this one. I think Nikki might inadvertently cost Alexa. I'm calling. So two quick points. Did you ever watch Alexa, bliss when she first debuted on an XT it was a while ago when she was with, like Blake emergency before that? No, she was like it's so weird to think of her now. But when she first started, she was like a cheerleader gimmick, with like, and she would like run out and dump pixie dust on people. It was it's so strange to even think of her that way. Now also quite contrast. Right. She's like four and a half feet tall yet, Joey. My brother sent me a picture with her because she's like he Joey works at the American Heart Association in Orlando. I guess because of her mother's health issue, she's a big supporter of that. So she was there for a fundraising event, and he sent me a picture of him standing next to her. You know, Joey's maybe half an inch in shorter than me if not the same height in Joey look like frigging, Braun strowman next door. Yes. She's. Is so tiny, I meant the first time I did an interview with her. When I was working, w w I was like holy crap second point when I was working on the edge and Christian show by last year. At W E the episode, we had Bailey on for to guest star really sneaky sneaky, good S. Is that what we should beat the shit out a Tommy dreamer yet, and I remember thinking to myself like, well, she got a sneaky, good caboose? Yeah. I kind of feel like she's one of those like hides Bubis to his shoes. Choose really cool. She straps. There's jams down. So speaking cool, raw women's championship the man Becky Lynch versus the sassy southern bell. Nothing annoys me. Nothing annoys me more than Michael Cole saying, sassy southern bell, fifty eight times per broadcast punch them right in the throat. Nothing annoys me more than Michael saying anything. I'm not a Michael Cole fan me neither everything seems canned. And I mean it is like I feel bad for him because ever everything that comes out of his mouth is sort of just regurgitating whatever somebody saying, nothing feels authentic, it doesn't in, then the, the in no you like her, but Rene young is I don't anymore is, is TIs no delivery. She has no timing like her. She just she has no timbre voice like it's just everything. She says sounds like she's reading off a teleprompter, or getting fed ear inn, which is yeah. Which I'm sure she is. But like, I don't know. I mean she's just I mean they can't listen to it in the back or in the playback and go yet she this is this is working. I mean it is. And I'm telling you, though, like if you go back a few years, and listen to. The first may young classic which was the first thing she ever color, commentated choose great. And when she was just left on to our own devices, same way about Beth Phoenix like she was great on the may young second year. And when she was on annex, t and now that she when she does stuff on the main roster. And she has Vince or whoever in her year. She sounds terrible like as doesn't sound completely awful as graves and even he is starting to annoy me..
"john moxley" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast
"Young bucks. Kenny omega are cool. I don't know that he can point to too many people on, on WWE's roster that they would look at the same way. So I think there is a cool factor with those talents. I think John Moxley's one of those guys and WWE that always had that and there was there was a coolness in an edgy nece to the character even if he was wearing cowboy hat. I don't think there's enough of that in WWE. There's I don't know if it's been doesn't know how to book that, or if it's. I am not. But there is an issue. He's absolutely right. Like who, who do who? Who's there for the teens in WWE? I'm struggling to really come up with an act that I think not that I would have an answer either. I mean, I don't know what today's teenagers are necessarily into, but venture seventy three years old, and he surrounded himself with a lot of people in Bruce, Pritchard is younger than vents. But I don't know the that Bruce pressured it can tap into the mind of a teenager today. So who is who are these people in that company that are going to be able to know what that demographic wants an NBA to deliver it? And I don't think he knows how to write cool character because I think he does drift into dean Ambrose quirkiness to author. I think it's hard for him to come up with cool. There's I mean hall and Nash became a hell of a lot cooler once they left, WWE razor Ramon was a lot of fun. But Kevin Nash became wake who when, when he left WWE, because he was able to be. Self and they don't let people be themselves. So it's not the throwing cool people on the roster. It said their characters aren't cool. Yeah. I think you're not gonna find who is cool. If you are applying the Vincent man, overlay onto characters. And so when I say, well, we don't know who the cool wrestlers are. Well, I think thin valor could be one of those, but in probably is more so than just about anybody else on the roster right now. I think Kofi you don't think so I I'm I look I, I really enjoyed French Devon the limited chef that I saw him. And there was a cool factor there. WWE the entrance is too choreographed. When you first see it, it's really cool. And then you see week in week out and it's just like okay it's the same motions and every everyone has choreographed entrance but his is so long. I it's not that I would do away with it. But really, I mean, the biggest issue is hey, it's smiling fin Ballard. Again and he's inclusive. It's all these different things like let the guy be himself. Yes. Yes. And I guess when I'm saying Ballard's is the he is the, he's the rest of who. I think has it in him to be that if he is not that I would agree with you. Yeah. Like when you say who's a cool restaurant the roster. I think if you, if you let them book themselves or have a different vision of different visionary. Let them be who they are. But guide them and frame frame, things a certain way. I mean Seth potentially has some of that Finn valor, Kevin Owens. Becky absolutely Becky junior, Mahal kidding. Kofi roman. If you can just be Joe. I think has that in, which is what's so frustrating. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Heck Andrade and Selena Vega. Our cool act, Randy. I think it'd be cool with teens with the teen audience under the rally stances Paul Heyman. Yeah. So no Oli. I hate that we have to call them all instead of his full name, paulie. Okay. Can pope could be could be cool with the teen audience, but yeah, absolutely. All worst-off Ali could be. What a dumb name shortening. I don't know what went into that, like Adrian Neville. Okay. It's like Neville, I. Okay. I sorta get that. But. Folly. What holy really? That's not just give them a completely new name now. Let it be Texas tornado. I don't know. I think I think like everyone else from the free world, I think of Mohammed Ali, and it just it's so dumb. I agree. So. And peck, Daniel Bryan. I think it'd be pub with teens in a different in a different incarnation of him. I.
"john moxley" Discussed on Sam Roberts Wrestling Podcast
"Voter like and when i say what they wanted what they asked for exerting a lot of times the mission is to give try to give them what they want without them realizing that they wanted exit sometimes not gotta parkinson times she don't right but like every now and then they just go it's there i'm just gonna give you exactly we asked for and those all their harari amassing so greatly even like you know i think people were waiting for somebody like bobby rude to debut as well that was on people newest coming there waiting for it and getting to go out there with bobby liked it to introduce hanan have those moments i always love being there were somebody during a debut or like after a big match like nodded those are cool moments i love that well rene young good paquet yum attic lamp moxley moxley uh they're going by that mature transfer them to that from the should manager right now he just annoy everybody into slides all the all the smart marto fbi her sunny and clips from sees uw and stuff did them gutting is vase i look i mean i i love this generation right now because like i called blake i would like years ago i would i called like indy matches just as all other wrestling summer yeah and like i called the john moxley man i call claudio cast in yongi like eight i hang out on the bleachers being like oh i hope they put me on the show next week light rain i mean like so many guys raves e and it it's just cooled it and and again it continues to happen we'd ask next generation of annexed he guys and like the yeah adam cole zimbabe fishing colorado leads of the world and like is generally cool i love so merriman tonight was definitely one of those moments like man rest things great lakes you could real like i really felt it and so she being that ringside to hop in wishing get the end and watching that rail rumble match like i felt like i felt a super lucky to be working for this company and to be able to see so many people i just put together such an amazing at night and then also with the.
"john moxley" Discussed on Sam Roberts Wrestling Podcast
"Two rene paquet i was gonna ask you about and he goes eats away you that stir up a fire or because i feel like in the past when i don't want to generalise but i do feel like it happens more with female wwe superstar personalities right ever than it does with mayo but an average of males to it is usually because they're looking to do something outside sheriff court and they're like that's not actually my name in a god forbid should something happen i don't want i've you're in it yeah yeah a of course uh yeah definitely that's part of it and so i have ads i'd seen before of just like flipping through instruments are that that nyas name she's got both on there and carmella did not deter those ladies under the bus what up y'all i saw there is i was like oh i think i can get away with this what's the big deal during a deal so i switched it and i also it was like in the process of exchanging over my my answer of a business account which i don't even know what what does that mean i want to i think it's people can just like email you directly it if they need honestly not that kohl young i'm so any was yes which my name back to rene per cat but i think people were mostly freaked out that i didn't put it to renege good rigs us nightmare of named not even rene isn't i mean that's like my my my real like my both name got a sound like like a grandmother my maiden name on is renee fa cat but i worked on tv as rene per kept before so i feel like adding good into that mix might be confusing i think a lot of people get married and they still keep their the road real name for work your old definitely definitely on what it is like a kind of fleet has its own flow and flair hyundai pockets right ended ads goes right in it adds a a global mystique exactly they'll do us run yards uh we've just went by like a renee moxley oh that will be great without mutual fund is what actually which i got married so many people thought that his name was mox i kind of did you that's where i knew initiative four wwe john moxley and i was like well.
"john moxley" Discussed on Alice @97.3
"So you know at least that something i'm a dad dumped in it's better than the loser i was before attic the me now that the pressure to uh to get the grandkids going like really left we have some kids i need someone to be towed on well smother helicopter around perry there you go i need someone to crochet like four hurry harlem non crochet a blanket really are you know whatever grandma's do is that why you're learning yes because my son is pregnant to be grandma soon did you hear about this story this study out of the university of cal berkeley that squeezing brass is a great way to fight breast cancer uh that's how did you hear this i didn't stru researchers say that physical force can influence our bodies and when we lift weights our muscles get bigger nayef shown that physical force can play a role in growth in reversing of cancer cells so it's important ladies that you have your booby squeezed often i can't is handle that myself well one else i though that you would attention is sarah your puppies i can't be squeezing them all the time they're very i don't like to bring me we hindered their little tender like they you know testicle tender no probably not lay testicle tender but they're very um give you flicked them would it would it internationally i got shirt at certain times in the month there is especially tender like oh don't touch these get off of that because that's their right afet i i'm right now took perfectly almost like no feeling i'm really so rough with them but certain times of the month unlike how tenderness the not now i don't care who else recess pat i'm delighted i'm do squeezing out the kanther squeezing quite a bit last night john moxley novels oh took my broth i like i am just given a malek a rubbed the ad third term pain right now wait when you take the raw they need a rubbed down been bound up all day you gotta like kind of rub where the bra was given kind of like a wing owing i'll leslie key accidentally elbowed me all i lit into him her so mary tyler he did it i know but i it was just my reacted hair paul around so ever since then every time i get around him up okay yeah go that way so i just gotta.
"john moxley" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast
"I think that you will see one of them churn i mean ideally would be roman or as i've said held like chief all three of them as shields just running roughshod over wwe but i think it's probably am roche's times he's the guy that everyone had pet gives the the most likely candidate to turn whenever the shield broke up even he's talked about that interviews he as john moxley was a very good he'll and i look forward to that run for a long time i don't know i i would hope you don't see it in the rumble because that probably sets the stage for seth against dean russell mania and i'd rather see them kinda pull the trigger maybe even i don't know it did the two parties if you do it at meynier the night after media you're you're playing to a crowd that going to cheer the hell out of the guy you want to be booed and denamrk roche but i would want that to be a post russell mania feud four romesh because one of the issues right now with roman reigns each the fed him everyone at nb it'll be brock leslie were included once we get to many if they follow the direction we assume they're going to then what it what do you do with this guy coming out of russell many you need a strong opponent it's a little bit dicy because usually she are at ground in a new champion crowned he just assume that guy's going to hold the title for awhile i shall i would hate to see ambushes kind of be quick to month fodder the roman ranch i want to see him whenever he turns really be spotlighted and and be a guy that they can position as as a a top he'll for a long period of time not just for a quick lawn with world.
"john moxley" Discussed on Sam Roberts Wrestling Podcast
"Why newspapers you talk about the the guys that people connect with because they're different which is the siham puncan danuberhine group and then the cavagnaud ins i think also i thin ballard sneak into that group aj styles samoa joe group there's is a group i think in the middle of those to which have just as much indy credibility they've different looks when they get to wwe they have different names but why is it that the samoan not this modrow's the and bros is the south rollins that generation of indy guys don't have the same sort of connection and feel a not that they don't have a connection but it's a different connection and accept rollins dean ambrose those guys feel more like traditional wwe superstar like i don't think the when you look at roman reigns dini ambrose and set rollins you see two guys that wrestled around the world in one guy that's a product of the system you see three products of the system whereas you know a single generation removed which is i'm at a year may be removed you've got guys that are not products of the system that are entering or even such rollins when he got it oh pushed in our which there wasn't it immediate embrace of him like other world class indy works and dean wasn't a guy who i mean people her to john moxley but none of the same way of asia styles are daniel bryan ziam punk he wasn't in the same category as low key or or uh nigel mcguinness or even claudio like i mean i just think there was a different the different five about him i think is set and dean probably alternately were indy guys who were more wwe destined and.