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"john mcphee" Discussed on Science Friday

Science Friday

02:27 min | 11 months ago

"john mcphee" Discussed on Science Friday

"College ten years ago and i was assigned to read the curve of binding energy and i thought i groaned because it was nuclear vision at something that didn't interest me at all and i tell you not only did it. Open up that whole world for me but it opened up The power of nonfiction literature and essays and And introduced me to john. Mcphee and i came away with an understanding. Nuclear fission as well So i just wanted to relay that that it really It it was. It was a moment in college that i tried it and And now. I've come to appreciate john john. Do you have a vision. People reading your book as they as you write what they who they are or what. They'll get out of it. No i have no idea. Except that i always have an attitude toward readers that they know more than i do. Is that right you bet. Zamin itchy the style that you use is is to readers who you think no more than you do or you so i just think it makes sense if you if you publish a book and x. Thousand people read it. There's going to be people in there and a lot of them who are swifter and Subtler and more sensitive and everything else and you are. I mean it just has has to be and i have that reader in mind so you're afraid of criticism it sounds no not at all. I i mean that you you you leave you let the you stopped short of of nudging the reader in the ribs and saying get it you. Don't you don't do that. Oh no it's not being afraid of criticism it's a. It's a a matter of Though what's what is in and what is not in the composition. Well it's a fantastic book. Annals of the former world. And i thank you very much for joining us and talking about at this hour thank you. I read a pleasure. You're welcome john mcphee. Who is a staff writer for the new yorker and the author of annals of the former world published by ferrar straus andrew and. It's a great book that pick. That conversation was recorded twenty two years ago. Hard to believe in june of nineteen ninety nine. And if you like taking a look back at scientists -tory then check out our newsletter series. Science friday rewind in which we look back on the decades of discovery recorded in science fridays. Thirty years of archives from the career of jane goodall to the rise of the earth day environmental movement to the history of hiv and aids research hop.

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"john mcphee" Discussed on Science Friday

Science Friday

03:26 min | 11 months ago

"john mcphee" Discussed on Science Friday

"The they people in this latter category. That you describe told me that if they are not in touch with field geologists they. They feel they're not in touch. The they great bulk of very important work in geology is being done in in In geophysics and in places where were you. Don't go out and hang on on an outcrop but it's all related and remember the the my purposes did this is not to to Teach fundamental geology in all respects but just to describe that the the geology of north america at about this latitude new the new york latitude from ocean to ocean. And and that's what i set out to do i There's a passage on the tension between So-called blackbox jal bat black box geologists and feel geologists somewhere in rising from the plane. But i don't think these things are incompatible now now right thanks for calling games would you. Would you not consider then your books Reference books. John the well to the extent that they serve as rep to the to the extent that they can serve as reference books. That's fine in fact. Annals in the former world does touch on a great many geological subjects including the one that. We've just been mentioning and I mean a whole lot of what's in annals of the former world to go back to david's question i mean rests on seismology and geophysics The whole of the book five in here is is in that category and You don't understand plate tectonics without it and and so forth In for this reason when animals that when we were preparing annals of the former world We did an index. I i worked for three months on in on email with a wonderful person and julie kawabata in medford oregon who no sorry in portland. Who is a An index are and. We went back and forth. Because she wasn't a you know. Her knowledge of geology was not at the Quite mine and on my knowledge of indexing was neil and and this index is not short and it it helps the reference aspect also. The book begins with fourteen pages which described the whole project. it's a roadmap to the whole thing and thus thus you could either read it through if you wanted to or use it as a reference because all in those fourteen pages and the and the table of contents tents that recapitulates them all the subjects that are covered in the book and where they are are mentioned so it would serve as a reference With a given that that Item upfront. This is science friday from wnyc studios. You're listening to a nineteen ninety nine conversation with author john mcphee author of the pulitzer prize winning book annals of the former world holly in chelmsford massachusetts. Hi hi. I'm so happy. I got through. I got in my car with a few minutes. Left of your program and realize my favorite author was on I it's i'm honored to speak with you. I wanted to say. I would the liberal arts major in.

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"john mcphee" Discussed on Science Friday

Science Friday

09:55 min | 11 months ago

"john mcphee" Discussed on Science Friday

"John mcphee he's talking about writing geology and more. Let's go to the phones. Lots of folks Wanna talk to you. And let's go to ben in dallas. I then well. Hello there. I i wanna thank john for the hundreds of hours of pleasure. He has given me being able to read his books. in fact is in inspired me to go do some research on my own. I guess the last place i went was to the chapel la basin there where Nature's being fought and the core tells me they've got it under control now so hopefully that's the case The the question. I have is is johnny. You've got such a variety of topics that you cover so you're obviously doing a great deal of research. What is the ratio of time you spend on the road. Doing your research visiting with people Compared to the amount of time that you spend Actually doing the writing. Well i do have an answer for that may surprise you. But i mean if i'm on the road i once figured out that for every day that i was out on the road researching things out there. I spent ten in my office at home while and they. Of course that i mean. The first phase is to go out with people. Travel with geologists travel in alaska. Whatever it is. But but then. Of course before i start writing. There's a great deal of time at home reading about the subject and and Sorting over those notes and and and doing background reading and so on. So that's all part of the b of being home but In in the alaska project was was other than this one the longest i remember and it was about three years that i worked on that and in that time i would go up to alaska for four months for three months for two months and back to princeton and back up there after several months and So that it it. A three year period there were maybe four trips more or less like that. I wanted to be there in the four seasons. You really seem to have a pension for finding the right people to talk to also as at for referral are are your research. It's referral and and it's it's. I've always felt that it was luck. I mean i mean. Of course you don't know who you didn't meet right. I mean you don't know what but They indeed have been an amazing array of people. And i you should get into a subject and then you just start. You know talking to people and hanging around the subject for a while. Sometimes that leads to the person as was the case with ted taylor in the curb of binding energy when i want to ask you to read a chapter from your book and now the passage from your book about the the concept of geologic time. It's really something very difficult for people to understand. Is it not about how long geologic time is. And how it's hard for us to get a handle on it Yes indeed it is and geologists are forever trying to find in metaphors to cope with this question to try to give a sense of time. The relationship between our sense of time and the earth's they the vast difference how to express that so on and this passage Attempts to address that as follows when a volcano. Let's fly or an earthquake brings down a mountainside people look upon the event with surprise and reported to each other as news. People in their whole history have seen comparatively few such events and only in the past couple of hundred years. Have they begun to sense. The patterns the events represent human time regarded in the perspective of geologic. Time is much too thin to be discerned the mark invisible at the end of a ruler. If geologic time could somehow be seen in the perspective of human time on the other hand sea level would be rising and falling hundreds of feet. Ice would come pouring over continents as quickly and as quickly go away yucatan's in florida's would be under the sun. One moment and underwater the next oceans would swing open doors mountains would grow like clouds and come down like melting sherbert. Continents would crawl like bb rivers would arrive and disappear like rain streaks down. An umbrella lakes would go away like puddles after rain and volcanoes would light the earth as if it were a garden of full of firefly's at the end of the program man shows up his ticket in his hand almost at once he conceives of private property dimension stone and life insurance when mount saint helen's assaults his sensibilities with an ash cloud eleven miles high. He writes a letter to the new york times. Recommending that the mountain be bombed. That really happened. Yes i read i. I remember the letter why we really think we're something. I mean. as far as we we really think whereas something and then you go on you look at you know as you mentioned before how many billions and of years you can cover with just the palm of your hand when you go to an outcropping of rock right. See how short a time. We really occupying us her. Ted in is it roselle new jersey. Yes i take what i play you. It is to talk to john. You've been so much to give me so much. Pleasure over the years from the pine barrens through basement and range assembling california to alaska. I'm mostly housebound but I travel with you. And i appreciate it so much I would like to ask you a question about a book that you don't talk much about the lemon yellow. Deltoid pumpkin seed yes what do you want to ask. But what whatever happened to that project. That project is Still wear it was when when the book was finished in nineteen seventy three or four whenever it was they flight tests occurred they They company still exists. The the president is still Trying to interest people in the data however the mission has changed over the years and they were he was attempting to do some aircraft that would do radar picketing and so on and so. It isn't really quite quite the same anymore. But if there was one word that that characterized that story it was perseverance. I mean they've been going on for forty years or whatever. It was a remarkable story. And i i had to admire the will to to to keep on going. The man exhibited but I guess it's just another one of those great inventions that didn't pan out like the tuning fork right and recently there's been an announcement from a major company lockheed or something like that saying that they're going to be doing something like that is using helium to lift Big loads in machine something like that. Yeah well i thank you for talking to me. I initiated great. Thanks for your remarks. Ted you it up by. There's a lot of. There's always a lot of talk about bringing back. Helium powered all types of blimps and dirigibles. And things like that Who do you read for amy. You you have to have some time do some reading. I'm assuming who are some of your science writers or some of natural history writers that you really admire well. Jonathan weiner I read. I read the books of my former students which are now proliferating so much had time to keep up with that and I read very miscellaneous louis What am i reading right now. I'm reading about. I'm reading ambrose. Stephen ambrose book on lewis and clark. That's what i am. One of my favorite authors stephen and I e the answer is that i read completely miscellaneous louis and more for recreation than anything else now in my work such as you know there's always a great pile of things need to be read and studied in order to get ready for the next piece of writing and so i will seek I'll see things quite quite different and historical subjects and novels and so on that that. Are you know they're recreational for me. Yeah yeah you say that. You'll concentrating fish now. Why fish well. I have a an interest. In in certain fish that run up rivers in to spawn. and and. i'm just trying to do an article about that subject about ocean. Fish that come into freshwater. Let's go to david in durham north carolina. Hi david how are you I'm a big fan and actually a teacher of scientific reading. And i've used a mystery mcphee's work A number of times says examples My question is this. My sister is a geophysicist. Actually she gave me the annals as a present last year and with that in mind. I'd like to ask whether The narrative thrust of the work that kind of road trip ankle Paints geology descriptively and short changes. The more theoretical computational work that is the source of a lot of interesting stuff. That's being done today. Well i guess someone would have to say that who felt that.

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"john mcphee" Discussed on Science Friday

Science Friday

02:56 min | 11 months ago

"john mcphee" Discussed on Science Friday

"Nobody understood for a long while that it was the same river that good when lincoln tunnel or something and goes in one side comes out the other and the state of wyoming has labeled the rock and wind river canyon and it with with its age and its and its type and it's extremely interesting to do in. This could be done in many more places in the country you know. In the astronauts went to the moon they look back on earth and so the tiny little blue marble there so to speak May had a feeling about the fragility of earth. And you go and just the opposite you go get closer and closer to the rocks and and and and look very closely at the their make up. Is there a different kind of sense of awe. Well what is the feeling you get when you come away from traversing the whole country looking at the basement of the earth here. Well i don't know. I mean because you know everything over all those years involved rock outcrops exposed by the interstate or exposed somewhere else in the i. Guess unconformable is are are a place where you can be moved If you can put your finger as you can in the The delaware water gap for example as you can thousands and thousands of places. You put your finger in one spot. And it's it's there's two sides a break there and the two sides are say ten million years apart and your finger covers the ten million years It's it's impressive. It's i mean in its own up-close way the in the you mentioned the astronauts looking at the little thing that you know when plate tectonics was More controversial than it is now. The theory's pretty much in place in people argue about is somewhat less but in the nineteen seventies when it was brand new it was It was much argued and and one of the early astronauts. Was that the a g. A trained geologist harrison schmitt. He's up in the air and he is looking in space. And he's looking down at the far triangle at he's looking at at africa and and Arabia and he's looking at the red sea and you can see. Just like a jigsaw puzzle. You can see the earth coming apart there. It's about five million years that that that is taken for the red cedar develop and so it's all very new and he said One look at that. It'll make a believer out of anybody a believer in plate tectonics. I'm talking with author. John mcphee we need to take a short break. Stay with us. Science friday supported by alumina a global leader in dna sequencing. Every wonder how learning more about dna might change. Our future..

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"john mcphee" Discussed on Science Friday

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07:16 min | 11 months ago

"john mcphee" Discussed on Science Friday

"Can i take down all this so you. What you do is put the little tape recorder on the outcrop in. Let him argue and they were tape recorder listens to him so i do supplement the note taking with a tape recorder when i have to. Let's go to alina and oakland california. Eileen hi thanks for taking my call i'm a big hand and found mr mcphee. And i've always wondered though why he doesn't put more maps in his books. I'm a geologist and I agree with you on that one to answer off the air. Thanks so much. Yeah what's a more maps in those books. Well i'm cranky. I first of all. I always assumed that a map was handy to a person who wanted to look something up and In donaldson the former world we did do maps from a us. Geological survey base Map of the lands. Forms and drainage is of north america. We With a steward allen cartographer in medford oregon we We made twenty five maps to specifically address certain places in the book So i hope that that did that help selene. They'll find out after after she's done reading. Let's go to ian and san diego high. I go hang up I understand that You all your guest. Mr mcphee wrote the curve of the binding energy. Is that true. That's right Well the curve of the binding energy was one of the more influential books. I've ever read i. I think it might be instructive to your listeners. To hear how. I came across this book. i originally Was given a book by my wife. Who is a librarian called the mushroom or mushroom something like that written by a student at princeton Who had freeman dyson as his Instructor and he proposed to do a temp but he was not the brightest in fact he was at the bottom of the closet almost paper on a terrorist group building. A nuclear device and freeman dyson. Who is one of the Physicist on the manhattan project Thought this was rather funny in. This guy wouldn't come up with anything. But when the guy came to pick up his paper he found that it had been classified. Not any had this guy figured out how to build a bomb but he probably figured out how to how to build one which could have a yield in the multicolored ton range and one of the references that he cited was the curve of the binding energy and so i I checked down this book to find out and sure enough. i believe it was about the teddy. Taylor was one of the foremost bill or or at least designers of fishing bombs shortly after the second world war and he and you gave a complete description there of of how to to build a bomb and all the things you had to watch for and all that stuff which was a real revelation. So my question to you. Is this following up on that One of the things that that student mentioned was that behalf that he was tracked down by the pakistani government in order to get the The the mechanisms for building the bomb and all of that and And now that's become a reality pakistan now has a you know efficient device. And what are your thoughts about About nuclear devices being built by You know terrorist groups and small p. Small groups in the twenty first century following a lot of the descriptions given in the in the now public domain Material in things like the curve. The binding energy the released manhattan project and so on. Well the reason. The curve of binding energy was written was because of that fear among other things they're they're fewer account of all. This is not Holy i mean it suggests that one could read the curve of binding energy and Build a bomb from that. That's just not so and nor was it true of. I think it was david michaela's thesis here in princeton that the general idea that a small group of people are even one person can do. It was taylor's idea and he felt that it was not being It was not being given credence and So this is why that he he talked to me about it. And of course. I would fear that in the future like anyone else in in But it wouldn't they wouldn't learn how to do it from my book because the book stopped short of that in all respects. So you don't feel guilty that joining to do it. Someone billing a bow is i Thought long and hard about whether to discuss this subject at all. And as a matter of fact. In the interviewing that i did at los alamos and and brookhaven and everywhere. I spent more than half of my interviewing time. Asking people to tell me why i should not write this versus why should and The net of it was that it seemed to be a good idea to do it. This is science friday from wnyc studios case. He just joining us. You're listening to a nineteen ninety. Nine conversation with author john mcphee about geology and the craft of writing. I one of the One of the more fascinating parts of geology. And and you talk about it. Lots and all union you works. Are the road cuts that you find and you're able to become an instant geologist by studying them and actually going back and you mentioned that in a few places you can go back billions of years in some of these road cuts that you find around the country. I remember many years ago stopping by think outside of denver On my way back from boulder colorado was an actually an exit ramp onto a road cut. And in with the whole diorama of what you're looking at it across the whole base in there and the whole flatlands of colorado nevada is one spectacular place where we're above denver where you know you're talking about. Yeah well it goes through the so-called hog back which is cretaceous rock that Ah curious sort of stegosaurus looking. Looks like the back of a dinosaur or something that crawls along the mountain front right Parallels the rockies for hundreds of miles in that road cut is spectacular outside denver. And there's actually geological exhibits there. Yeah and these the and you know i. I don't think enough people are enough states or localities. Put i pay enough attention to these. The turn them into learning centers or educational points where people are interested in them. Well i wish they did in more places for example if you go from in wyoming if you go through The where the the wind river goes into wind river canyon and it comes out the other end and and is the big horn river and the recent is that they nobody understood for a long while that it was the same river that good when lincoln tunnel or something and goes in one side comes out.

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"john mcphee" Discussed on Science Friday

Science Friday

07:09 min | 11 months ago

"john mcphee" Discussed on Science Friday

"Can you sit down. And write something. Once like isaac asimov used to be happy with or how many times you have to go over and refinish rework rework it paul. Plenty of isaac asimov whatever he did. I'm sure i don't do. It's it's a. It's a process of many many many revisions Basically for trips through the whole manuscript but there's countless Subdivisions of that. But i i work in. I mean with about four full drafts. A first draft that takes a very long time and then the others take less but You know there's a romantic idea about writers that Who are so facile that they don't have to block a line and But boy that is not this writer. And actually i feel that the one one of the basic fundamentals about writing is that you do have a chance to change things you can work it over and improve it until you see something you want. It is really is like sculpture and artwork. Is it not that you can just change little here move a little. They're making words around. I guess gam make it look exactly the way you want to and then come back a little bit later and say i didn't like that. Let me go back to the way. Used to be How do you teach your students to be writers or can you teach people to be writers. Well an analogy that. I have used a now and again about that is that i think i see myself more as a coach Or say a swimming teacher. Which is something. I used to do years ago and the people i was teaching swimming all knew how to swim. What i was trying to do was to help them. Swim better to streamline them to to make them more efficiently help them more efficiently to use the their relationship of the water. And that's very analogous to talking to people about writing. I mean i'm not teaching anyone to right. I'm i'm just helping people with with little ideas that They may or may not pick up from me I have no way of knowing what it is that sticks with with them. I dislike talking to him privately about their compositions Let's go to the phones to nancy. In portland oregon. I nancy hi. I don't have my radio on. So i can't tell whether you can hear me or not but I turned to turn to the mute. On i just wanted to. I don't have a question for mr mcphee. I just want to tell him that. I'm a fan of his and have been ever since i read Oh gosh the survival of the bark canoe. Having been raised in canada born and raised in canada. I was thrilled with that. I i think the thing that i really wanted to thank him for was the purity and beauty of his writing I you you can. I can get lost in his Nonfiction as i can in a good fiction book and i've read I think the fun thing for me was when i moved from ohio to Portland my son Joined me in laramie wyoming as i came alone along on in my car and he happened to have with him. And i don't know whether it was Rising from the plains or basin and range but he had bar the book from a friend and as we drove from Laremy up through to The tetons i read aloud to him and myself About the terrain we were going through and it was. It was just terrific. It was fun it was interesting to see what he was describing and I went i guess Maybe he can tell me whether it was rising from the plains or basin and range. I have baseman range here. But it's been some years since i've read it. Thank you for calling nancy. You're welcome. thank you nancy. Thanks very much. It was rising from the plains. And you and the annals of the former world it's a compendium it's i it's five. Volumes did dandy in the for the volumes are pieces you've done before right and volume is an original is the is is new stuff. It happened like this. When when i got together the that project and got the idea of traversing the entire continent. I did so for the next year and a half thinking. I was doing a piece of writing that i would do in a year or two and that was that was going to be it. And when i piled up all my notes and i traveled with anita and david love and and Eldredge moore's in california and ken to phase I realized that. I couldn't cope with this in less than ten years in that i wouldn't be doing anything else. And i'm general nonfiction writer. So i had built a structure for the whole piece of writing and it separated itself into Several parts well enough Still following that same structure. And so i decided to write them separately and then go off to other things in between and that's how it it developed and so Parts of it were published along the way at always saying in the flaps that these titles were gathering under the overall title annals of the former world And so i finally completed it in nineteen ninety eight but what i was doing was following the outline that that had been developed developed in in one thousand nine hundred seventy nine. You think you've got geology out of your system now. no. I don't think i have it out of my system but i'll tell you that i'm writing about fish. Iran that's right the only rocky thing and officials in odalisque the these fisher marine animals or lake fisher all fish or their their anadromous fish. And you write in such great detail you carry. How do you keep track of the detail in your book. Well you have. Do you have a tape recorder with you. You taking notes says it's going on. Yeah both i mean first of all. I note notes in a note booker. My preferred way of Soaking things up but if someone speaks too. Rapidly is also articulate and doesn't seem to care about it i use a tape recorder Because if i can't keep up what can i do. The tape recorder does or i'm in vermont. Say as i one of the passages in annals of the former world. there's fourteen celebrated appalachian geologists arguing over in outcrop..

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"john mcphee" Discussed on Science Friday

Science Friday

02:04 min | 11 months ago

"john mcphee" Discussed on Science Friday

"Alumina sequencing is helping clinicians and researchers all over the world understand the genetics of disease and make personalized medicine. A reality from advancing cancer therapy selection with genetic testing to designing vaccines based on viral sequences. Illuminate dna sequencing is impacting the future of healthcare. Discover more about the power of the genome at aluminum dot com slash science. Friday sci-fi is sponsored by better health online. There be because life can be hard better. Help wants to make access to therapy easier. Whether you're feeling anxious or depressed need help. Managing stress or struggling with relationships online therapy might be for you. Better help offers customized online there be via secure video phone and even live chat sessions with your own licensed therapist. It's convenient and more affordable than in person there be and our listeners. Get ten percent off the first month of online therapy at better help dot com slash friday. Give it a try. That's better h. E. l. p. dot com slash. Friday black swan records was america's first black owned record label. The guy who made it. Harry pace revolutionized the music industry industry fought for equality. God why why. Don't we have three movies about this. Do record owner lawyer i mean. He's like the vocational macgyver. But then all of a sudden one day it's like tooth he disappeared. Listen to the vanishing of harry pace on the radio lab feed on apple podcasts. This is science friday. I'm reflejo this hour. We're dipping into the science. Friday archives for a conversation with author john mcphee recorded in june of nineteen ninety nine about his wonderful book annals of the former world first published in nineteen nine hundred ninety eight and became the one thousand nine hundred nine winner of the pulitzer prize for general nonfiction..

"john mcphee" Discussed on Science Friday

Science Friday

06:15 min | 11 months ago

"john mcphee" Discussed on Science Friday

"I said i'd always assumed that. The skyline was shaped by human considerations commercial historical ethnic. Who could imagine a little italy in a skyscraper a linoleum warehouse up in the clouds. The towers of midtown as one might imagine were placed in substantial rock anita said rock that once had been heated near the point of melting and had re crystallized and had been heated again had re crystallized while not particularly competent was more than adequate the hold up those buildings most important. It was right at the surface. You could see it in all. Its my catious glitter shining like silver in the outcrops of central park. Four hundred and fifty million years in age it was called manhattan. Schist all through midtown. It was at or near the surface. But in the region south of thirtieth street it began to fall away and at washington square at the senate abruptly the whole saddle between midtown and wall. Street would be underwater where it not filled with many tens of fathoms of glacial till the ice sheet brought it. So they're sat greenwich village. Soho chinatown on material. That could not hold up a great deal. More than a golf tee on the ground up. Wreckage of the ram oppose on crushed. Catskill on odd bits of nyack antenna fly which the ice brought in the wall street area. The bedrock does not return to the surface but it comes within forty feet and his accessible for the footings of the tallest buildings in town. New york grew high on the advantage of. It's hard rock and new york being what it is cities. All over the world have attempted to resemble it. The skyline of nuclear houston for example is a similac rim of manhattan's skyline. Houston rests on twelve thousand feet of month marill lunatic clay a substance that when moist turns into mobile jelly after taking so much money out of the ground the oil companies houston have put hundreds of millions. Back in houston is the world's foremost city and fat basements. It's tall buildings are magnified. Duck pins bobbing in their own meyer. That's a great description i have to. I have to also mentioned that I noticed that while you were reading some of your own work you were actually editing. Some of it along the way does the writing process ever stop. Well it doesn't stop when you're when you're reading something on npr and realize that that if you're saying that there little bits ten fly in rambo in in soho you'd better explain it. I noticed and anybody who reads the book can't help but notice that you You have certain characters in their their real life people in in the book Geologists that you find along the way who stand out and And who become almost our friends and and talking in one case here by david love. Who's the geologist who guide you through. Wyoming. and you say in your book. That he's the only person in the history of american geology who has served as a senior author of a state map twice in that i gather is quite an accomplishment. That was about the work that goes on into making a state map. Well as i said somewhere in these In this book of a geologic map as a textbook on one sheet of paper just a tremendous amount of geology goes into the representation. That's on that map. Basically geologic map is a picture of the uppermost rock at a in a given area like say a state wyoming If you were looking at a area really the the top rock is the one depicted in the map if soil is there. It's the it's still the top rock below the soil if glacial stuff is there that's usually left off stuff that the glacier smeared over the over the bedrock But and so you'll see the relationship of the uppermost rock in the rock column you don't you don't see everything going down below it And it's a synthesis a geologic map of pretty much everything it's been written about this about about the rock in the state and So you can see the amount of work and be involved in it in nineteen nineteen whatever. David love is the senior author of the first one. And i think in nineteen eighty five to the present map was published. He'd done this twice. Which means he's you know he's lived He lives three hundred years or something in effect. Did you did you have. Did you have to become a matmaker. Dundas to really understand how he does these things or not a map maker. But i've always loved maps. I just Can can just get into a map broom and lose all sense of time and Princeton has a wonderful map room in the geology library. A really superb one. And you know i just go there and and i love to hang around and look at these maps. I don't have. I don't have difficulty figuring out where i am on them. get inspiration from them. Yes but also. Also if. I'm if i'm doing a piece about anything i mean like right now i've been doing something that involves holyoke massachusetts and i'll go down to that same library and look at the topographic maps. The of the Large scale maps of holyoke. So i can just see the layout and pick up. Sometimes you pick up wonderful place names that way and you and you get accurate distances and so i'm maps always suggests something we need to take a break. You're listening to a conversation with writer. John mcphee recorded twenty two years ago in june of nineteen ninety nine about his book annals of the former world morocco talk with john mcphee in just a moment stay with us. Science friday supported by alumina a global leader in dna sequencing every wonder how learning more about dna might change. Our future..

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"john mcphee" Discussed on Science Friday

Science Friday

06:05 min | 11 months ago

"john mcphee" Discussed on Science Friday

"This is science. Friday i'm i replied. Oh this hour. We're opening up the sifi vault and setting the way back machine to nineteen ninety nine twenty two years ago our destination a conversation with writer john mcphee about his geologic epoch. Annals of the former world let me set the scene for you. When this conversation was recorded the un was struggling with how to aid refugees from the war in kosovo. Bill clinton was president. And then texas governor george w bush had just announced his intention to seek the republican presidential nomination and the day after this conversation. The dallas stars defeated the buffalo sabres in triple overtime of game. Six of the stanley cup finals said news for me. Buffalo is where i got started in radio but the good news mcphee's book annals of the former world first published in nineteen ninety eight won the nineteen ninety nine pulitzer prize for general nonfiction. So have a listen. A literary legend is going to join us at this hour on science. Friday john mcphee is a staff writer at the new yorker magazine and the author of twenty five books on subjects as diverse as oranges the pine barrens and nuclear physics. Two of his books encounters with the arch druid andy curve of binding energy. Were nominated for national book. Awards in the science category nineteen seventy seven. He received the award in literature from the american academy of arts and letters and more recently the coveted pulitzer prize for his latest book. Annals of the former world he also teaches nonfiction writing at princeton university and joins us today from the campus. There john mcvie. Welcome to the program. Hello ira hi. Nice to be here thank you. I never everybody's interested when they pick up this huge volume and it's it's a. It's a big one a lot of good reading in the annals of the former world the it started out very innocently did not as a short little piece you were going to be doing for the new yorker yes it did I had the idea to do a talk of the town. Piece in the new yorker. A short unsigned article about a road. Cut outside new york city somewhere and go. There described the history of the of that rock. it's environment of deposition or whatever and tell the story in the first person plural and a couple of days later. I'm all done. That's how this started. And while i was still thinking about it and talking to the professor princeton. It was going to do it with me. I got the idea of going up the adirondack north way through all those beautiful outcroppings in in really stunning road and maybe extend the piece of little and he said his name is ken. phase us a princeton professor. Who's been with me through this. Whole project counseling me. He said not on this continent. You said if you wanna do that sort of thing go. West go across the structure. Because the way north. America's anatomically organized all. This stuff goes north and south the physio graphic provinces. The rock the deformed appalachians in the rockies and so forth and i said go across the structure and so i got the idea to really go across it to describe north america from one ocean to the other in a geological way. And that's when. I fell in so far over my head that i didn't know what i was doing and that was twenty one years ago. Did you have to teach yourself everything about. It'd be because there are so many extensive references. You you speak like you an expert geologist. And they did it. Take a long time to learn all only well. I mean i hope. I learned something in in twenty twenty years that the project took In i had studied geology in school and and in a very good course it was basically geo morphology. I think and and all through the years. I talked with geologists about things in various books of mine to get it. Right where a little paragraph it come up describing something geological and But i basically. I didn't know much at all and and i just found myself. I mean nervously in deep it. I learned a great deal. I went to courses. I went to A lot of it was one on one. I traveled a for years with geologists and they they taught me right there in the field. And i read geico a great many scientific papers and i have a shelf of basic textbooks must be four or five feet wide and slowly. I something soaked in and one of the great things about your book is that that you managed to take science. That most of us probably don't know too much about or or appreciate it and you show us how it really shaped our world and and one example in particular you gave his is new york city a place that seems about as removed remote from the natural world. As you can get. I i like to go out into central park and watch the stones that are leftover from the ice sheets. That used to be down here during the ice age. But you even have more interesting story about how geology shape new york in a different way. The skyline how why we have skyscrapers in certain places in new york. How about if. I read that paragraph to you. That's great. I was with anita harrison. Anita harris is a us geological survey paleontologist who A confidante paleontologist who grew up in the williamsburg section of brooklyn. She says that she went into geology. To get out there and She and i went to new york one day. And as we were approaching the city from her cousins placed in new jersey and looking at the manhattan skyline Now i'm gonna start reading from the book. Anita asked me if i had ever wondered why there was a low saddle in the city between the stands of.

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Breaking the Chain: The Story of Fleetwood Mac

Miss Information: A Trivia Podcast

02:24 min | 1 year ago

Breaking the Chain: The Story of Fleetwood Mac

"Mac are a british american. Rock band formed in london in nineteen sixty seven. The band's original members were guitarist. Peter green drummer mick. Fleetwood guitarist jeremy spencer and bassist. John mcphee would surname was merged with the nickname of john. Mack mcvay to form the name of the band who were initially a blues band managed by clifford davis so danny kerman join as a third guitarist in nineteen sixty eight in keyboardist christine perfect. Who contributed as a session. Musician from the second album married. John mcvie and joined the band in nineteen seventy and then from there on out. She was christine. Mcvie all three guitarists of the man left in succession during the early nineteen seventy s to be replaced by guitarist. Bob welsh and bob weston. Along with vocalist dave walker. So the three guys that left. Peter green had a pretty massive addiction to lsd and he was later diagnosed schizophrenic. Yeah a little bit of a spiral. After that jeremy spencer abruptly quit to join the religious cult called the children of god. I know about the children of god. Yes yes yes like. They had traveled to america. They were unto were then he was like i'm going to. I'm going to stay here. I'm gonna call in this call up and let's see and then during dany kirwin actually got fired and now considered to be a minor incident. I'm he trashed his dressing room and refused to go onstage for a show and they fired him man so the ban. You know the the lineup has been a little bit in turmoil. In nineteen seventy-three either remaining members of fleetwood. Mac told their manager cliff davis that they needed a break from touring and instead of making that happen. Davis decided to hire a fake version of the band under the same name. Play the tour dates that the real band didn't make that's and the whole incident resulted in a lawsuit over who owned the band's name so davis booked. Us dates for the all new fleetwood mac from mid january to late february nineteen seventy four so when the fake fleetwood mac walked into their first show. Venue outside of pittsburgh actually in a place called the syria mosque. The venue promoter refused to put them onstage. 'cause he was like those are not fleetwood mac no but they play anyway And only about a dozen people ask for refunds and so they kept going and then apparently it like the next big venue. They played in new york city. People were like this is in fleetwood mac and they like they kind of they caught.

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"john mcphee" Discussed on The Blog of Author Tim Ferriss

The Blog of Author Tim Ferriss

05:59 min | 1 year ago

"john mcphee" Discussed on The Blog of Author Tim Ferriss

"This seduction is kinda moss to the flame of comparison. And how did it show for michael ray if you have any idea l. michael. Michael ray is a very evolved specimen and the way he was a academic professor a professor of marketing than the creativity and business class and I think that in the world of academia with peer review and with kind of the tenure ladder and all of that breeds a sense of comparison. And and i think that's totally. Yeah in wear. Your offices is a whole bunch of other things in a way. It's kind of a key and then silicon valley. I mean if there is sin city silicon valley until comparison is the primary set of modern life. Right and so michael dealt with it by very very deep spiritual practice That that was the way he he dealt with. It was his spiritual practice. He just he did. He was involved very deeply in a very extensive meditation and studying under. I believe maybe more than one guru and he dedicated his life to his own evolution to find out what he described as the get in touch with his real inner essence as opposed to external forbes and his life was very guided in that direction. I think that you know for me. Sometimes it's changed over the years. I think when i was younger. Yeah it was would be sort of more. surface level. Comparisons has never been like mike comparing financially. Or how am i. Comparing just might. I actually would rather compare with people being maybe surprised Oh you don't have x. y. z. I kind of liked that. You're in a windows in your office. Like i kinda like those sorts of comparisons of being different but the why. Don't you have the corner office with all the windows. Exactly because it'll be windows. So be distracting. Were talking earlier in our early. One about john mcphee. Can you can read the john mcphee paragraph at go. I don't know if i could ever do that paragraph. That's a really optimistic stats. I just a goddamn. I can't even imagine ever produced. Compare exactly you know. But it's it's it's sort of i think sometimes it's it's just these standards stat and then i see people who embody them. You feel inadequate to those. I and that's where some of the comparison comes in and climbing. It's great as you get to be sixty two or sixty three. You're going to lose a comparison with anybody who's twenty five so right not on the table. Yeah what do you do..

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"john mcphee" Discussed on KUGN 590 AM

KUGN 590 AM

02:23 min | 2 years ago

"john mcphee" Discussed on KUGN 590 AM

"That's okay right out this is something that a lot of people in the era with the doors in the Doobies we're at at the same time a lot of people they really don't know the era confuse the two they do now no words in the I think you know I can find a ten year old who would not tell the limit now that's why you know that's a crazy dog statement that no one is standing by so fake news maybe because we what that really means is engine back me up that means that at one point in time Doug confuse you yeah and so I say all I could feel it sounded awful lot seventies I was playing as a disc jockey I was playing this stuff until it came out of my years literally SO one hit one moment you play Doobie brothers too and then the doors and this kind of music that was so typical of the seventies and became a server is a run on sentence with me maybe that's right that's how it should be presented anyway the dubious are you laughing have a socially distance take on listen to the music performance features time Johnston Patrick Simmons John McPhee and John Cowan all of whom recorded their parts from their homes this is really good this it is this is this the version is the version of this is the river this is happening here not only is it a dream because of the way they put it together but for me I'm having a hard time discerning this and their voices today from what they sounded like in nineteen seventy two their voices the guy we had long hair a long grey here yeah I think he's singing now by the very he's not initialize Donald's not in this what do you have a Michael Mick Hey is it anyway you know that means have it with another part of the word that I can't stand here sorry way they do bees are supposed to reunite for the fiftieth anniversary tour the doors okay twenty nine past the hour thank you Jennifer hi.

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"john mcphee" Discussed on KUGN 590 AM

KUGN 590 AM

01:39 min | 2 years ago

"john mcphee" Discussed on KUGN 590 AM

"Mind thirty city tour is scheduled to start June ninth in Palm Beach but it continues through October you have I think the last shows was being used hello I have included co founders Tom Johnston and Patrick Simmons longtime guitarist John McPhee along with the members of the current duties touring band the tour will now start in west Palm Beach on July seventeenth next year can imaginary making their plans and then the New Orleans October twenty third is nothing else to do this year's right much over so why not I guess make the plan Dale in Mount Pleasant Missouri I see city Iowa Boise Idaho Albuquerque New Mexico a little rock Arkansas and Memphis the reschedule tour dates here one of several set backs the band is confronted this year back in February to do we had to postpone a couple weeks he shows when Johnson fell ill they were supposed to be in Vegas this spring the band was also scheduled inducted in the rock roll hall of fame in that sense two seven November so that's the Doobies news I've always liked him I don't like Michael McDonald tonight I like the kind you like the music the spirit of the music you know what I mean except a concert for Colorado music relief the music really find is going to be held this Saturday at six o'clock from six tonight as a matter of fact mountain time it will be a virtual event streaming online all banding together a concert for.

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"john mcphee" Discussed on 850 WFTL

850 WFTL

29:59 min | 2 years ago

"john mcphee" Discussed on 850 WFTL

"Day or night rain or shine it's always sunny in South Florida with the greatest hits of the seventies eighties and nineties on sunny one oh seven nine and this the our and and we should a little overboard with death and now that the holidays are over the bills are starting to pile up let Sonny one of seven nine help you with that for paying your holiday bills weekdays at twenty minutes past nine eleven one and three get your bills paid all the details and your chance to register is the funny one oh seven nine dot com all your favorite songs from the eagle all in one place the greatest hits of the seventies eighties and nineties feel good play on sunny windows seven nine I don't don't stop if you have the here's so one of the following the I can much so only I sure we these are the greatest hits of the seventies eighties and nineties on sunny one oh seven nine and you know every word you can see my favorite the greatest hits of the seventies eighties and nineties on sunny one oh seven nine good stuff right here this he three he see he the she is the Sony loyal listener network here's your chance to win a pair of tickets to see the Doobie brothers fiftieth anniversary to work with Michael McDonald at Simmons Tom Johnson and John McPhee on Tuesday June ninth of the girl guy at the theater you need to win it at seventy one oh seven nine dot com the following is a message from the law offices of Franken Verity do you have a service animal like an emotional support pig if so law also you might be able to use tax act deducted expenses and they know what they're doing they're just helping.

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"john mcphee" Discussed on WZFG The Flag 1100AM

WZFG The Flag 1100AM

02:32 min | 2 years ago

"john mcphee" Discussed on WZFG The Flag 1100AM

"Some freezing rain as well thirty four from the flank weather center I'm meteorologist Jeff Nordine on AM eleven hundred the flag currently it's thirty one degrees the hunt design on the checklist complete top of the list North Dakota sweet crude look for when the sun sets on a great day of hunting let the evening again from stoking the fire place back at the cabin to sharing stories toast with friends North Dakota sweet mixture on ice is the perfect work for the perfect occasion and if you're hunting without North Dakota sweet crude liqueur it's just another trip out of town North Dakota sweet find out more spirits dot com if I could it is Fleetwood Mac John McPhee birthday today so we're going clear back bumper reckon seventy four today it says more there we go every year we also have a little John Kennedy moment we we try to squeeze in every now and then because he is the one of the more colorful members of the United States Senate from Louisiana what do you have to say this morning there is however plenty of evidence that you crying mad old in the two thousand sixteen election specifically president Poroshenko don't take my word for it there was an exhaustive our investigation done by politico all mom article printed in January of two thousand seventeen there been stories and on CBS news stories on the wash from the examiner last month the economists did an exhaustive study very balanced on what went on in Ukraine and there is buku as we say in Louisiana evidence that Ukraine tried to metal and the two thousand sixteen election why is this important because my democratic friends want to prevent the president from offering any evidence that Ukraine is organically and historically.

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"john mcphee" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW

Newsradio 700 WLW

02:16 min | 3 years ago

"john mcphee" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW

"I think the help the people no recognize that Hey you know why on that guy things have so but but again hi I do you still have to acknowledge a certain amount of just plain old good fortune and all well I I think would probably help then I'm sure there are exceptions there been a lot of people who do the brothers over the course of time but I think the one driving thing that that that seems to power you guys you don't want you you don't want to be rock stars you want to be breaking guitars on the stage in coming out and make up you just wanna be good musicians and what happens is you attract other good musicians because of that I right on that you didn't really want to be rock drives I have I think that is a very good observation now I think you're totally right sounds always your first priority always been music here we go the people that care about our music and enjoy it we owe them a lot we have to do our best all the time John McPhee joins us Doobie.

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"john mcphee" Discussed on The Tim Ferriss Show

The Tim Ferriss Show

02:25 min | 3 years ago

"john mcphee" Discussed on The Tim Ferriss Show

"So that's that's how I would think about that. Yeah. You mentioned Vitkin Sinai. I'm no expert on bit consent had a quarter in college, which the main focus of the work. I was learning in was in big consign, and I remember the professor saying to me. Well, what's Marvel's about bacon? Stein is said something along the lines of he lays out, very clinically. What we can meaningfully talk about. And and then the professor, and of course, then there's the punchline which is that most of what's really important. We can't talk about so. Because the words can't go to the mystical. So very very interesting. And I've often thought about this when I wrestle with concepts as I'm wrestling in research. What are the first questions they asked people often ask me, how do you? How do you develop a concept or how do you decide to come at something that would allow you to say, you know, articulate something you're seeing through the lens of say the level five hierarchy or the preserve the course to be late progress duality or whatever I question. I always ask myself is what's the conceptual vessel, right? Because to get a concept. There's different kinds of concepts. Right. You've got dialectics. You've got hierarchies. You had stages. You have equations you have categories and one of the first important things to do is to say. Well, if you're looking at something, what's what's the best kind of conceptual vessel? And then from there you develop the concept and just one thing on on language. It's not really about language per se. It's about the really hard world of writing. And as I was looking about you back around. Tim, I noted if I read it right that you had trust paths with one of our great nonfiction writers. John McPhee is that right? That is correct. Very very lucky and got to take a classical the literature of fact, which was seminar that McPhee used to teach. I don't know if he's still teaches it, but that did have a chance to spend some time with the incredible MSCI. Yeah. And just before we want to our broad conversation. I what what was it like to have a class from McPhee?.

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"john mcphee" Discussed on Slate's Culture Gabfest

Slate's Culture Gabfest

03:35 min | 3 years ago

"john mcphee" Discussed on Slate's Culture Gabfest

"Really does. All right. So couple. I'm gonna ask you some. Steph tasty. But I have a couple of processed questions are you with this yarn metaphor? So did you do a lot of working with physical objects like when we talked about that John McPhee book, I think you came in that week. Right. Didn't we talk about the John McPhee book with you how to write non fiction, and I was saying that it could never help any person in the world who was not as brilliant in weird. As John McCain said, I asked Marc singer, his great friend. Do you write like this Mark? And he said fuck, no. Jar jar. I mean, we wouldn't even get into the insanity of his process, but like as far as the materiality of yours, did you print stuff out a lot. Did you did you lay things out on the floor, and like cross out paragraphs with a pen and move things around and do some kind of process now that it is over and I can hold the thing in my hands. I wanna go back and do because I have a stack in my office as tall as taller than my children probably of printed out and painstakingly marked up revised pages because that's how I do it. Because that's how I've always done. It is I write largely by hand. I get something into my computer. And then I printed out, and it could be like five sentences, and then I just do like margin alia and crossing out and just this this like revision kind of blooms, and that's where the writing happens to me like a lot of the creativity. And then I type all that back in and then I printed out again. And then I revised you're printing a lot like every day or so. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I have this huge stack of paper that I want. To kind of sift through because you can trace the evolution of an idea into, you know, the the passage passages we read earlier, I can probably find the first seeds of those and find where I came up with particular images in ideas, like in the margins of what I had printed out. Do you think you'll keep that huge deca paper? I don't know is going to try to document. I'd love to talk to I would love to talk to younger writers about revision and writing and all that stuff because that's to me where the magic happens. I love to revise a hate to write and I love to revise especially having written about margin yet as you have. I would love to hear you like, right or or or comment further on that process. Okay. Steve I'm switching over to you. So of an ask you the I would be interested to hear this from both of you. But I'll ask it if you'd who do you show stuff as you're you're writing it? I mean, not you seem you strike me as a person who's very private about what you're writing. And you probably don't show it to your wife or your editor anybody else until it's ready. Is that true? Nobody I mean. So here's my agonized metaphor for writing my book getting to the end of the first draft which. Is imagine you're, you know, you're painting the hull of the battleship, and it's your job to paint the whole thing. And you're just right up close to the vast Puhl can object, and you'd take your just stroke, stroke, stroke, everyday, applying, the paint, and but you know, you're going to be done, and you're finally done in you, and you stand back and look at your handiwork, and it's it's just perfect. He did it you covered the hull and paint. And then someone says was the wrong color, and you know, part of the problem with me was that is I've been writing forever. And the bulk of the writing happened during the Obama years, and I was writing a decline est narrative in which I said, you know, everything about this country has rotted away to crap and and I- pinpoint what I believe to be a real turning point not a fake one NADA adventitious one for the purpose of making a cutesy argument. But a real turning point with substance substantive reason for it being the turning point. And then. Build an argument around that. But no one was feeling the decline in the Obama years..

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