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GSMC MMA Podcast Episode 79: Preview of UFC Fight Night 170

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GSMC MMA Podcast Episode 79: Preview of UFC Fight Night 170

"I need your daily fix on mixed martial arts RECAP BELA TOR one. Fifty five c one ninety who kind of a controversial decision. Who's not I couldn't figure out. Why don't you fret because golden state media concepts your daily dose of Anime podcasts everything from the US or fighting Jimmy extreme cage fighting victim fighting champ much join us as we talk about some of the biggest names in mix martial arts? We've got you covered here on. Golden state media concepts emanate podcast. And all right. Thank you for tuning into the MC and they podcast brought to you by the podcast network. I'm your host Tonight we're talking about. Ufc fight night one seventy. This is happening this Saturday. March fourteenth of a main event Charles earlier versus Kevin Lee followed up with Damien mild versus Gilbert Burns and star studded lineup on the undercard with the likes of Johnny Walker. Definitely get into all of that. But we'll start off with the main event. Kevin Lee Charles will be very very interesting. Fight A we'll go through a little bit of housekeeping Kevin Lee over the record of eighteen and five twenty seven years of age standing five foot nine inches tall and seventy seven inch reach Charles Oliveira on the other hand. A twenty eight eight record. Thirty years of age standing at five foot ten inches tall with a shorter. Seventy four inch reach score through a few their accolades. Kevin Lee is ranked at number eight coming off of a tremendous first round knockout. Victory Kevin or sorry Charles Oliveira is ranked at thirteen. Coming off of a six fight win streak and even more mazing. That out of those six fight wins. Five of them have been fight of the night bonuses for him. Charlie also has the most submission wins in the USC. Thirteenth submission wins a total of eighteen is career but thirteen of them being in the UFC Oliveira definitely a dangerous opponent on the ground. Good striking but his ground game is definitely where he's the most dangerous also with his thirty years of age. He seems to kind of be getting to that point where his body and his mind are a leveling off where not only is he physically impressive and mentally. He's very impressive as well at the peak of his career right now a probably in his Prime Kevin Lee on the other hand coming off the first round a high kick knockout victory against Gregor clasby. Putting glass be completely out cold. It was a right hand followed up with a left high kick if you did not see that fight put. Gillespie completely cold Head him with sorry. Hit HIM WITH ONE. Hammerfest to didn't really need to do that but It is what it is is the left high kick which completely put him out. Cold Glaspie wasn't even able to stand up and be there for the official announcement by Bruce Buffer. Biggest Changing Kevin Lease game. I think has come from his changing camping coaching. He's now working at the Tri Star. Jim Coach Derosa Hobby for any. You don't know for us. A Hobby or the Tristar gym is up in Montreal The Gym and coach of legendary fighter. George Saint Pierre I'm sure everyone knows a him. But Kevin has had a few losses hall of his losses. Have been to top. Level Competition Two losses ally Quinta offers fight andor rematch for unanimous decision. Loss moved up to welterweight. How two loss against Raphael does Anjos a submission loss there And in two thousand seventeen. He fought for the interim lightweight. Championship against Tony Ferguson. Who we all noise. An absolute beast will be fighting. Could BE NEAR. Maga made off for the title in the upcoming weeks Lost Him via triangle. Choke back in twenty seventeen Charles earlier a great submission artists like I said Kevin Lee. Also very good with submissions. Once he gets on your back it's very hard for him so he very hard for opponents to get him off or just a hold him off in till he gets a submission. I believe that for us. A hobby chains has been tremendously with him. Oh we'll see how it goes as second flake with him. But as far as how I see this fight going I see can only come out with a wide stance like he did against Gregor. Gillespie a standing Very low with his knees bent a head kind of forward not sure if he's bathing out punches from Geiger. Gillespie B but just standing there. Ready to go and ready to stop take downs. That's what the low stands and a wide legs. Were doing for him. Easy to easy for him to pose. Legs back if Charles Lever takes or shooting for a takedown. Charles Lever on the other hand does hurt to the body off quite easily and Kevin Lee loves to kick to the body So I see that being a big part of the game plan to target Charlie Body Especially since he does sorry Kevin Lee does have all the reach advantage both in his legs and his arms. I believe In his arms for sure He'll be targeting the body with the kicks which could set up a later relator round high kick or even if he's able to hurt only zero with a with a body shot I'll he could follow it up with ground and pound or just Strikes against the fence and finish him off their Charles Lever on the other does get a lot better in the later part of fights so if he is able to weather the storm in the first few rounds you could definitely pick it up in the later half of the fight. It's definitely a pick em fight. It's no clear winner. Nazari winner but no clear advantage for either one to save. This person is up more likely to win by a huge margin but I definitely do see Kevin Lee winning Especially on the way he's been fighting the way he's been talking. He's trying to get a few fights under his belt so he can work his way. Back up to a title shot Oliveira not any a walkover non easy target like. I said six fight win streak. It's a pick em fight could go either way if it gets into late around Charles Lever. We'll do a lot better. But also in the later rounds Kevin Lee will be sweatier. Be Slippery or still might be a little bit harder to take down definitely going to be harder to hold down and get into submission positions Another thing with this fight if you don't know what's happening in Brazil with Dacoven nineteen corona virus There's no gatherings of over a hundred people allowed which means there will be no crowd. It'll be sixteen thousand empty seats in the stadium all GonNa talk more about that later but That's very interesting. I can't wait to see what the Walker there like. How that affects. The fighters affects a lot of things in this fight. A but with that being said we will move on to Damian Maya and Gilbert Burns after a small commercial break. Please stay tuned. Thank you check out this show built around the women of MMA from the UFC to the extreme cage. 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Three years of age standing at five foot ten inches and a seventy one inch so not too much of a difference with their height and reach mainly the difference comes in age like I said a nine year age difference almost ten years apart. David my definitely getting up there in age could be a factor but definitely something. We'll see we haven't seen Damian Maya's age really showed too bad but like I was saying deeming my is coming off a tremendous three fight win streak all his last fight being against another accomplished wrestler Ben Aspirin which was a fight of the night for that card. A very close fight Daming my a pretty much edging it out if it did go to points but did get a stoppage of rear naked choke in the fifth round putting Ben. Ask Renew Sleep Gilbert Burns on the other hand as only four fight win streak but this is only his second fight at welterweight. I definitely do believe he's found a lot more success with welterweight less cardio issues and he's definitely very physically strong and can hang with a little bit bigger guys Definitely stronger on the feed. Definitely better at least more powerful striking than Damian. Maya but does slow down. In the later rounds doesn't really a gas out but slows down. He's ranked at number twelve in the welterweight ranking daming. Meyer ranked at number five. So this'll definitely a have a little shakeup in the ranking. Especially if Gilbert Burns is able to take the victory So Damian Maya Higgs. Add a few losses Having three losses back back to back against amazing competition He fought Tyron Woodley for the Welterweight Championship. Lost that fight followed up with a fight against Colby COVINGTON and Camara USSTN three Very accomplished wrestlers back to back to back a lost all three. But there's definitely no shame and losing to competition that good Compared to Gilbert Burns. Who hasn't fought anyone to the esteem of Damian? My Award Damian. Maya's opposition so with this fight. How do I think it's GonNa go? This is again just like that. I should be very close fight. I do believe I have Damian. Maya winning this fight Even though the automakers have Gilbert Burns a two one favourite give her burns like I was saying very physically strong definitely does have knockout power and probably will be going for a knockout victory early in the fight. Which could tire him. Out For the later rounds especially with his grappling. If Damian my gets down but Damian my on the other hand I do believe he will get Gilbert Burns down and will finish the fight or edge out of victory in five round decision Gilbert Burns Like I said going for an early knockout will probably find himself in a bad position. Susceptible to take down from Damian. Maya a Damian Maya capitalizing taking a single leg double leg however he needs to get the fight to the ground and that's when the final really start but that could always be wrong. I thought Colby COVINGTON VERSUS KAMARA. Osmond was going to be a high level wrestling match especially with them being such a good wrestlers but that ended up being a five round standing bank type of fight. I don't believe there were any takedown attempts in that fight Maybe Colby was hurt. I can't remember too well But with this fight I don't see it being on the feet for too long Especially for Daming his definitely GONNA be looking for that takedown and getting it to the ground into a grappling match. Daming is definitely an absolute beast on the ground. Deal in any way he can submit you. He will ground and pound you. He'll get on your back and draw elbows from there so like I said he has a lot more ways to win on the ground Burns again. A very good grappler. But he's definitely GONNA WANNA try to keep this fight standing especially in the earlier rounds to get a a an early round. Knockout all just using his power. But that could be a big issue if he's not able to land if Gilbert Burns Sore if David is able to avoid taking damage inlet Gilbert Burns tire himself out burns has had a little bit of cardio issues later in his fight but ever since he's been up a welterweight doesn't seem like he has too bad of a cardio issue on Arlene issue but definitely slows down Like I said fifth-ranked versus twelfth-ranked so winner. This fight will definitely be moving up but not a title shot anywhere in the near future for these guys. They'll definitely need a few more fights before shooting for a title shot. Us especially for Daming My. I'd be another one and he's already lost to Comorros mental don't see that happening. He does have a win over not been yet. Been ASPIRIN BUT Whore Hey Moss. Fiddle a split decision. Victory and I don't know how Moscow is doing with his b. m. f. title if he's willing to put it on the line he said he was for a small fee or a bet. I don't think he'll be doing that against day. Mike Gilbert Burns. He's definitely going to be looking for a big name so either one of these guys if they win they'll definitely have to get a few other wins under their belt even with Goo. They're both of them. Having a good little win streak. Three fights and four fight win streak under their belt. A Jimmy Burns is up and coming. If he can get this win over. Damian Maya is definitely gonNA shoot up in the rankings definitely. GonNa work his way up to being named that should be a contender getting one. Maybe two other fights like I said. He's two two one favourite which supplies me to say the least but like I said I definitely Daming Maya Edging out a five round hard-fought victory on the ground Every round is gonNA start standing up We'll see how Gilbert Burns's power last throughout the later rounds but as long as Gilbert Burns is storing very powerful strikes and getting out of position Damian. My is going to be capitalised getting this fight to the ground and trying to finish it with submissions with strikes. And just putting a pace on Gilbert Burns. Daming is one of those weird fighters who kind of looks tired but is always working That being said we will move on to talking about a few other fight on the UNDERCARD. We have demure had Yovich. I hope I did not butcher that name to bed versus were Netto McConnell. Terrible with these names maccanica Hope I didn't push it. I wouldn't either but will be right back after these short little break. Viz is your ultimate staffer. Everything sports the Golden state media concepts sports podcast. Should I say more from the? Nfl Mel beat the NBA immense. It's all in here. The golden state media concepts sports podcast. Listen now all right we just we kept the choline event of UFC fight. Night one. Seventy Damian Maya versus Gilbert Burns. Where a predicted? Daming Maya will get a card fought decision. Victory over Gilbert Burns but now move on to the fight before that the last fight on the other card reneta McConnell versus demere has of H. I believe I got their names right this time. But again we start off with a little bit of housekeeping for four for both fighters Demeer I'll thirteen and five thirty three years of age standing at five foot. Eleven inches tall with a seventy inch reach. Rinaldo not too far off at thirteen. Three and one. Thirty years old The same height at five eleven and a two inches longer reach at seventy two inches. So both these fighter very exciting fighters neither one of them ranked But both of them coming off of loss or losses so this is definitely a comeback fight for both of them are demure coming off of a decision loss In not too bad of a fight but Renault on the other hand coming off to Tko losses to the Korean Zombie and Jose Aldo In that is a very interesting talking point because we know it wasn't a clean knockout loss but even with TKO's really wonder how much damage a permanent damage that has done to Renato Shin If you know if Chuckling del you know he had a granite Chin in the beginning of his career and near the ending. It seemed like he couldn't take a punch definitely probably fought a too far late into his career Special with his age but like I said that's definitely one thing to worry about is the accumulation of damage on his chin will be able to take the punch from demeer Also he's coming off of those two losses a third loss in his. Ufc career is not going to be good. Seen a lot of fighters get cut after three losses in very much could be The outcome for NATO So. He's fighting for his career. Possibly with this fight demur again coming off a loss so he's definitely fighting to get a win in his last fight he did mention. He had a torn meniscus a belief three weeks going into that fight. Odd took the fight anyway So seeing him come up completely healthy on definitely we'll see where he is a in his mindset knowing he does have a daughter no a between his two fights. He became a father for the first time having a daughter. So I'm sure that'll be a huge motivator for him Trying to prove everyone wrong especially coming off of a loss having a daughter having something. He's willing to fight for We'll see how he comes out But the difference I believe in this fight will be the low kicks or not will be landing heal absolutely likes to chew up the legs and then do great with his boxing. Great with his Mutai definitely does have a slight advantage in his striking Compared to Demere demere likes to throw a lot of spinning attacks which could get very difficult for him. If we're not a does accumulate that damage on his legs. If he could take the pop out of d'humieres punches a slowdown his spinning attacks. Kinda see them coming a lot more in that. Like I said is probably what I see being the difference maker in this fight. Renato building up of leg kick damage and then finishing up with the hands I don't see either one of these guys getting a knockout. Unless again demere gets some sort of spinning attack off and a completely puts were not out Or HURTS HIM. I and get the third. Tko Loss of Ford were not. Oh they're all like I said this is a a pick em fight. Renato not the best defense with his standup a look very hit at times. doesn't have that one punch knockout power. He will accumulate a lot of damage. Not just With the lake executive saying but with his hands in the stand up he could definitely Prawn put it on demere. Keep landing keep his volume up and get a late round. Maybe third round stoppage Tko stoppage if he's able to accumulate damage on the Mir demere again another standard fighter. Great Movie Tie Ken Do a lot on his standup condemning. Win this fight again. Another pick 'em fight nothing clear cut on this card at all really but like I said we're not definitely will be The better the fighters especially when it comes to the kicks. Also he's training at American top team Which of course is an absolute amazing. Jim has a few champions under their belt. Amanda Nunez former interim champion will be Covington. Renato definitely has a lot of good sparring partners up there a demure. I'm not too sure where he is. Training Right now But I definitely do have or not a winning. Either one of these guys are ranked on either. One of these guys will be a shooting up to a contender spot or anything near there. They'll definitely need a few fights under their belt especially in such a stack division like the lightweight division Maybe the winner will call out one of the winners. Or even the loser of the main card fight but these guys definitely to work their way up probably will get into top fifteen ranking After this fight Maybe demeer Granada with those lost to last two losses of being so decisive and being so early fern. Tko In second round Tko. I don't see moving up that quickly but a win here will definitely do him. Go to put him on the right path to success Demere has a same thing on the path to success of being a father for the first time that could be the fire. He needs a to get going but like I said I ever not a winning With the leg kicks also with that too intrigued not much but with such a close fight that could be the one that makes the difference with that being said. We'll move on to another short little break and wilmore back. We're GONNA be talking about Johnnie Walker versus Nakada Krylov. I believe I got those names. Right Johnnie Walker sure. I got right But yeah we will move onto those right after this. Stay tuned tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts. No listen and hear this out. There's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searching. The golden state media concepts podcast network is here nothing less than our podcast bliss with endless hours of podcast covered from news sports music fashion looking entertainment fantasy football and so much more so stop located around and go straight out to the golden state media concepts podcast network guaranteed to build. That podcast is whatever it may be visit. Www DOT JESUS MC podcast dot COM. Follow us on facebook and twitter and download on itunes soundcloud and Google play. And we are back we just recap the McConnell versus demere heads of each fight in the lightweight division. The last fight on the UNDERCARD. And now we're going to move on to the light heavyweight fight the Johnny Johnny Verse Nikita Krylov We'll start off with the information about them again. Starting off of Johnny Walker Seventeen and four in his career. Twenty seven years of age six foot five inches tall with a eighty to intrigue Nikita Krylov. Twenty five and seven has a few more fights than Johnny Walker Just a year older at twenty eight years of age three inches shorter or sorry to injure shorter at six three. And with a seventy seven and a half inch reach Quite a big reach advantage for Johnnie Walker Both of these guys ranked on the Keita. A twelve in the light heavyweight division Johnny Walker ranked at ten A. Nikita is coming off a split decision close-fought loss to Glover Take Shera and has a knockout loss against a IANOVICH who is in talks of getting a fight with the champion of the light heavyweight division. John Jones Johnny Walker on the other hand is also coming off of a loss a quick. Tko Loss Against Gordon Anderson where I definitely thought he was. GonNa win that fight. He was also in the talks of getting a fight with John. Jones saw probably very premature for his career. But looked unstoppable. All very unique with a striking a lot of weird faints and then explosive movements jumping knees or flying knees Spinning attacks and he's used to getting early. Knock it so that Corey Anderson losses definitely definitely wasn't ego check for him Where he did fire his trainer and move to her house. A hobby like I mentioned before for US Hobby antitrust our Jim. The coaches of the Great George Saint Pierre That's going to be interesting to see how for Zombie a mentors Johnny Walker. And his style. I do see him being very similar. I don't think there's too much he's going to change. As far as is a faint and his style goes but I feel like you will be a lot more careful. This time around Not just going for an early round. Stoppage taking his time Keeping those there and trying to find openings without a overextending without really making too many mistakes Nikita Krylov on the other. Hand looking for a statement when Right now of very strong fighter very Powerbase fighter is a finisher could definitely finish on a walker This is one of the closest fights on the card as much as Johnny Walker does have a hype train round him a skill wise. He's he's definitely up there but he's not Anything that can't be taken out as jaunt bursary. Yes Corey. Anderson showed a comeback fight for both these fighters. It will most likely be a standup fight in the We Thai kickboxing range in with that. Johnny Walkers Definitely GonNa have an advantage with his reach and his height compared to Croix love. But that is how it seems. Like it's going to go. I have Johnny Walker winning this fight by decision or late stoppage Most of his fights have been like I said early knockouts a win or loss. And that's definitely gonNA play a part in his game plan and how he's able to take shots moving forward. I don't think he's a he has a problem with his Chin at all even against. Tko Loss Against Corey Anderson. That he's coming off. He was still standing at the end of the fight. He was dazed. He was confused but he wasn't knocked out Nikita Coral of again a twenty five and seven not too many bad losses on his career but does have that powerful shot. That couldn't put Johnny out. I feel like this is going to be very very exciting. Fight Watch the stand up. Kickboxing fight a lot of damage. Going both ways. I'd like to see how Johnnie Walker is GonNa Change Your style with Farrah's Ob- if he's GonNa keep that forward pressure like he normally does looking for that knockout looking for that big flying looking for that spinning back fist. Or if he's going to be a lot more common relax If he's going to be you know taking his time using his faints and backing up a bit more looking for openings how to use his power to use his unique strikes but in the in my prediction definitely do see Johnny Walker. Winning this fight like a said late round stoppage. Most likely finish either way. Actually whether it's a win for Cova Walker. It will most likely be finished. I definitely want to see this fight. Go On for a while. Not a war per se but definitely do want to see these guys go added stand bang for a while just to see where both of these guys are at especially in the light heavyweight division now before it seemed kind of thing that with John Jones completely washing everyone in the division But with his last few fights he's looked a lot more human to say the least Could have gone either way with his last fight against Dominic Arabia's in Johnnie Walker definitely trying to work his way back up there on the key Corolla of a again young guy even though he does have a lot of fights under his belt. We'll see how this really goes. Nikki did ask to be released from the UFC. A before coming back which is very strange but shows how how strong he is mentally understood he needed a little bit more experience took his time away from the UFC. God a few fights under his belt then came back. He is a one in two in his return to the UFC but his two losses Against Gray Competition Yon Blow Vich. Who again is in? Talks to fight. John Jones for the title. So again no. Shame in losing to someone like that Johnny Walker again. Losing to Corey Anderson Another Great top-five fighter with a lot of a threat in his wrestling. That's where coil of I feel. Like will have his Disadvantages exploited Johnnie Walker. Did Not Will Not fear takedown attempt from coil and therefore he's GonNa be a lot more confident in his striking Probably keeping that forward pressure probably moving forward with a lot of feigns and ending this fight with a some sort of a unique attacks. Binning attacked flying me. A Superman Punch even a lot of ways for Johnnie Walker to finish his fight and a lot of chances for coil to counter those whether it's a right hand left hand or kick. He definitely finished Johnny Walker at any point in the fight damage him hurt him. Finish him up with more strikes Whether it be ground and pound or up against the fence like Corey Anderson loss up but overall definitely do see Johnny Walker taking the victory here all that being said we will be moving on to the final fight or the first fight on the undercard and a little bit more about 'em us especially with the corona virus and how that will impact the rest of the card so we'll take a small break. Stay tuned we'll be right back. This is your alternate stop for everything. Sports the Golden State media concept's ports. Podcast should I say more from the NFL MLB THE NBA MMA? It's all in here. Golden state media concepts sports bod cast. Listen Aw all right and we are back We just talked about the second fight on the UNDERCARD. A New Light Weight of sorry the light heavyweight division Johnnie Walker versus Makida Krylov Like I said I believe I have Johnny Walker winning that fight I'm sorry Thai and kickboxing style fight. Much like the fight. We're talking about now The last fight or sorry the first fight on the undercard with Francisco Renaldo versus John McDevitt so Francisco Tone Aldo. Definitely getting up there in age at forty one years old But doesn't seem to be slowing down. Been IN THE UFC. Since his eight fight in mixed martial arts and has been sticking around ever since but yes he is five foot nine inches tall with a seventy inch reach Thirteen in one kickboxing record. Any twenty four seven mixed martial arts record John McDevitt on the other hand thirty four. The younger fighter fifty eight five foot eight inches tall and a sixty eight inch reach within mixed martial arts record of seventeen and six so these guys are coming off the winds moving forward. John Meek desio decision win versus Bobby. Green no sorry Francisco Tornado with a decision win versus Bobby Green and John McKenzie. On a three fight win streak So definitely has the momentum going for him Also has one fight night fight of the night bonus in his last three fights so definitely does have a strong strong momentum on his side Oh with Zapping said. Both of these guys are very similar fighters. Both of these guys are standing. Bang fighters I don't see the going any other way But both of these guys seem to fight at a similar level. They'll pick it up if they need to the slow down if they can And with the fighting each other I feel like that is GonNa be a huge factor As far as big differences of only big difference I see is in depowered Francisco. Chernobyl definitely has the advantage in power. Besides that like I said very similar fighters a STANDUP fighters great spinning attacks for both these guys John MC DESI LIKING TO FINISH UP HIS STRIKING WITH LOW kicks That could be an issue for our Franscisco if John is able to use those low kicks and damaged. Francisco's leg take that power away from him Even the playing field not manner he definitely has what takes to finish this fight for. Francisco is the favourite for this fight. And also who I have winning this fight with such a close fight said Not much separating these guys as far as their level of what they fight so whoever takes the center of the Octagon in the first fight in his able to dictate the pace is able to take the center? And just control. The Octagon is the one who is going to be devictor so the first round is going to be a very decisive round is going to be very telling for how this fight is. GonNa go Besides that Francisco although two inch reach advantage that'll help him out one inch height advantage. That'll help him out. He's going to be punching down he's GonNa be punching from a lot. Further great kickboxing background to support his striking John mcduffie again. Great striker both of these guys have trouble backing up. But I believe MC DESI does a lot worse moving back so with Francisco can take the octagon The center of the on in the beginning of the fight and start pushing John McDevitt back at him against cage He's GonNa have a lot of opportunities to hurt John Desi I don't see either one of these guys getting finished. They're both very durable fighters Believe John or sorry. Franscisco Tornado does have one bad loss knockout loss but neither one of them is shown any a suspect Chin and both of them. Great durable fighters. I think this is going to be an all out. Three round war of very close fought Fight Like I said I believe Franscisco will take this fight on points at the end. Due to the slight advantages. He has in power in height and in reach Other than that. These guys are so similar. It's really really difficult to see this fight Being decisive for either fighter Modesi if he's able to push the pace if he's able to get center Dr Gun Hill also be able to open up on Francisco Francisco not having the best defense moving backwards either. Biggest difference is the power is the small advantages of physically besides that Both these guys are great. stand up fighters Spinning attacks to a lot of spinning attack and unique attacking fighters on this card in general. Oh could see-saw some fireworks with some spinning attacks. But don't expect a war with these guys. They're both not afraid to get their hands. Dirty both not afraid to take punch both definitely not afraid to give a punch Only only big advantage. I see for John. Mcdevitt is if he's able to end his combos with good low kicks And then follow that up over and over again with a high kick or kick to the body and different Cisco a lot of damage that way and try to finish him there Like I said this is definitely GonNa be a one of the fights to watch if you do that. Standing Bank style of fight a lot of fireworks lot of punches high volume But either way this fight goes does not seem like it will be a very decisive fight Like I said either way back and forth fight all really does depend on that first round. I believe Francisco will start off a lot. Better move forward. Start Pushing John Modesi back letting his hands go on. Not Letting John Mackenzie get into a position to fire back Or at least fire back. Anything of substance. Yeah that that's pretty much it for this fight. It's definitely going to be probably one of the most exciting fights because of their FEIS style because of the level they fight to a definitely one on deathly gabby tuning in for only issue. Francisco could be having his with his age if his age is catching up to him. Will he start slowing down and later around with his Reflexes start giving out Willis beets are giving out Hasn't been the issue so far But ages that we're thinking you can catch up with you in in one day with all that being said that is the recap of the main card We will be moving on to a lot of anime news. Mainly how this entire card is going to go with de Corona Virus So to hear about that. Please stay tuned. We'll be right back. Want to know the latest in soccer. Then listen to the golden state media concepts soccer podcast. Mls is the world of the Premier League. We've got you covered the latest. Update the hottest matches news on the League's top players. It's the state media. Concept Soccer podcast. Listen all right and we are back. We just kept the entire card fight night. One seventy happening this Saturday march fourteenth. And now we'll move onto some. Mma news starting off with the corona virus in Brazil affecting the fight card Selects earlier in this fight. A story in this podcast. I'll there will be no one attending this fight. Sixteen thousand seats completely empty all due to the krona virus. The Brazilian government has on no longer allowed any gatherings over a hundred people to prevent the spread of the virus. Aw seems like that's something that we're GonNa have for next few fights a not monitoring where they are and that's a very interesting. It's GonNa change a lot of things like I said the number one thing. Witnesses how the walkout will be. Normally walkouts are exciting. You have the music playing the crowd getting excited. You get cheers. You get the booze you get the crowd singing along Especially if it's a an English crowd a singing sweet caroline you always get that But without any of that. How will the entrances alone be Are they going to be the exact same? Are we gonNA have the fighters having the music coming out to an empty stadium? Were probably not gonNA have security guards there to stop any of the fans from getting involved Simply because there is no fans to be involved in the first place Soto probably be the fighters and their team I'm not even sure if there will be on that extravagant Walcott or will be just a quick out. Let's get to it unless start fighting with that. No crowd a house that can affect the fight in itself How is that? GonNa Affect the fighters mentally. It's GonNa be a lot more like a how they spar in the gym They can hear their coaches a lot. Better they can hear their opponents coaches a lot better than a year all of that Instructions is economic work to the advantage of some fighters if they have a better team behind them if they have a coach that knows exactly what to say What should be done as far as the audience at home? Are we going to hear the coaches arena here? The punches kicks the breathing of the fighters a lot better without the noise of the crowd. Getting involved a lot of things will be changing in. This is Kinda GonNa set the tone for any other cards that do not have an audience for them. Also how is that going to affect the mentality of the fighters is GonNa be that engaging After the fight are GONNA be any celebrations or is it just gonNa be a respectful ending a much like a sparring match like I said four also the biggest issue? I believe it's GonNa be is with the judging how the judging and a change without any crowd interactions with judging a lot of it can be swayed with the crowd at the crowd is going crazy for certain moments if the crowd is booing. How is that going to change up the scoring for the FFICES again to be a lot better scoring a lot more indecisive scoring or is it going to be a lot more Get to the point. We know what we're watching type of scoring and I should probably change the way the fighters fight. I don't believe they're going to be trying to do something exciting especially for someone like Johnny Walker. Who loves to hear the crowd go crazy when he does his unique strikes as his jumping flying nieces spinning back fist. His Superman punches is he going to be a lot more focused on the fight listening to a FEROCE HOBBY. A lot better. Lastly how is that can affect The refereeing of the fight a lot of times we see the referees get involved in UFC till forty eight We saw with the Yoel Romero versus Outta Sonya fight. The crowds started to boo a lot Because they were engaging in a brawl. They weren't going. Although there are a lot more selective with their shots. There were playing a lot higher level of chess in there and with that happening referee believe it was mark. Godhre stepped in and told them. Hey you guys have to fight. I believe the words he chose to say was a give the referee something to score a minute here. Any of the hat with Without a crowd is GonNa Affect the refereeing for a fight like Damian Maya versus Gilbert Burns. Which could be a long drawn out. Fight on the ground. Are we gonNA Nazi a stand up? Even if it is a lot of time being stalled on the ground just having no crowd is a game changer in so many different ways like. I said it's GonNa Change the walkout. It's going to change the way we listen to it at home. It's going to change the way. The fighters here the coaches it's going to change the mentality of the fighters skin change the mentality of the judges. And lastly it's going to change the mentality of the referee so all that put together this could be a make or break for The next few cars that may need to have a no audience. The this again is not just for Mma luckily we are still going to get to see The fight See the entire card unlike in the NBA NHL in. I'm not sure if any other sports like have a cancelled the rest of their season due to some of their Some of their athletes Getting infected with the krona virus. Luckily I don't believe we've had an issue with that I know young Lee had to train or change your training camp from China to Thailand. I BELIEVE TO SAUDI ARABIA TO AMERICA. Won Her fight against on. Jayjay but that definitely affected her. Luckily she did not get infected But how is this verse epidemic in effect a mixed martial arts in general? Luckily we do have smaller offers mixed martial arts so if one fighter infected. It's much less likely that the rest of the roster is GonNa get it and a a huge portion especially like a whole season like the NBA. Nhl In any other lease that have had to cancel their whole entire season or at least postpone it until further notice is gonNA be With that being said I can't wait to see how that goes Moving on let's talk about the could be versus Tony Ferguson. Fight coming up up because that's on everyone's mind and with this corona virus that that's another concern. This is the fifth time. That fight is being made a lasting. We Wanna see for this decant for some other outside reasons besides injuries. Of course it's always a worry with Donny Ferguson. And his extreme style of training I I saw a video of him. Suspended by the hips Sorry by a Bungee cord or if it was just an elastic band. One of the work that elastic band. If you know what I'm talking about attached to his hip just suspended And spending on his head spinning around a more like a gymnastics athlete than a mixed martial artists and then all of a sudden the band snapped and he fell down in that could have ended horribly. He could have easily blended on a weird way on his neck on one of his joints popped his elbow his knees. So much can go wrong with the way. Tony Ferguson Trains But it works for himself so you can't tell him not to do it especially with him saying he doesn't do much sparring he says he's going to start sparring again for this fight against. Habib numerical made off but uh literally until that happens. You have no idea if fights gonNA happen all. Luckily we do have a few people who are willing to step in. Sorry a Conor McGregor. One of them Probably GonNa be the number one pick for the UFC just because of Just because the fan base he has a lot. More is on the sport. When conor McGregor is fighting But we also have just engage you willing to spend step in I believe doesn't Pori is ready to step in at any time. I I'd like to see just engage. Get THAT OPPORTUNITY BEFORE. Habib or Dustin just because both of them have had or soaring not habibon Dustin by connor and Dustin because both of them have already had that opportunity to see Justin in there especially off his last few victories. He's been on a roll. Seems like he's ready They do us or they are under the same management. So that's very well a possibility but that is a that is very interesting. Lastly We'll talk about John Jones upcoming fight. It's either gonNA beyond blow Vich or a rematch with Dominic Reyes as it seems so far Dana White has said he wants to see the dominic realism rematch. After watching that fight again. I believe I had dominic Reyes winning three to But I could not complete with John Jones winning especially since he did take the later rounds but taking it round around I believe Dominic Grizz took that fight in a rematch. Would be definitely something. I WANNA see. Immediate rematch will make it even better But with that I John Jones is so good at at learning. And I don't see Dominic Reyes being able to do that to John. Jones again But Botha the Dominic Reyes or sorry the John Jones fight coming up of whoever it is with whether it is young Mehovic or Dominic Reyes and could be versus Tony Ferguson flight. We will definitely talk more about that. When we are on dieperink of those fights intil then I will be signing off. Thank you for listening to the GMC M. C. MMA podcast brought to you by the GS MC podcast network. I would like to ask you. Please remember to subscribe to the show and write a really nice review. That really helps us out a lot. Also being please follow us on facebook. 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Ep. 2,8367: Miesha Tate and Gregor Gillespie

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Vice president and former strikeforce in you have see bantamweight champion, Michelle Tate. Thank you for the warm. Oh, can you hear me? There we go. We can. Yeah. Yeah. They're having you here. Also, a top notch accident as well. She's got a lot of towns over there. Get extra get remember. Where was I was in mammoth, and I was the first time I've done acts throwing they tell you guys. I kept missing an kept. But I kept hitting the same miss every time overstating. Yes. I was accurate Mr. tackling. And then finally got some advice either half a step forward or half step back. And then Finally, I started like nailing them. Yeah. Right. Yeah. He can I share a funny story with the sure well, it's a little bit. But you thought those positively that we'd say no love antics. Oh, by the way on today's show. We have Greg gerski. You have see lightweight who requested to go in the first hour because he knew me she was co host in the first hour, and then we'll also gonna talk to John mcdevitt. Another UFC lightweight in the second hour. Greg fights on Saturday at UC on ESPN, plus one and John mcdevitt. He heard the call out from Gilbert burns the other day. So it looks like he may be willing to entertain that. Juliet. And I we're just at the chiropractors. I could've sworn. Chiropractor snapped her neck, and that was it like, I didn't think CIA style, dude. Yeah. Like, Steven Seagal saw. So the point where nervous do they do? Sometimes they're not what they're all cracked up to be literally, no pun intended. Right. All right. So what happened? What happened was? She got an adjustment. And I went in before her. But with me he's like it looks like it looks like we're grappling. Like, yes. The action towards my body before you hear like one little pop. Right. But with Juliet just the back alone was like. That was her spine. Then he did the the hips each side, you know, and then he in the cervical, which is the top part, you know, like the neck area. He knew that. She was she had a subway subway station, which in chiropractic, talk something's out. So he goes to do it. And I'm sitting there, and I'm kind of giggling, you know, like he he had a tough time with me. But with her it's sounds like a firework show and all of a sudden he did her neck one way. And I was like, whoa. Like. She. All right. You know? And then he goes out. Now, we gotta go the other way. Now, she's facing me or the way she's going to twist or neck is facing me. And when he did it guys. I mean, his arms went like, okay. I if you're in your car, you don't understand what I'm saying. But basically, it's like I have one hand over the other with about ten inches in between or whatever. And then he turned it. And now the hands were side to side. He just went like that. And it looked like he snapped her neck, and I was like, whoa. What is this? A Steven Seagal movie like joking around with like, she. And then I turned to her and she's like Enfield's great. But I honestly thought the doctor was going to say oh my God. What did we just do? And we're gonna have to go to the desert and find the whole, and then that was it that was the end of Juliet, what kind of a call to make where mom, but it looks that bad. It looked like a movie guys. I and so that giggling went to like concern like, whoa. Like, I I remember shaking and then going, whoa. Like, what was that? What was that? You know, but half a second later. She said, she was okay. But I've never seen nothing. Like that. Like, I I usually don't go in. She had some extra questions as you don't go in when she has you know, that that type of stuff, but to see it that close just like you said that is scary that my neck pops like that kinda just freaks me out. I used to not let anybody pop my neck at all to pilot. I was probably like twenty six and then I finally got over it. But it's still kind of freaks me. I I really have to mentally get in the right place to be relaxed. Otherwise, I get ten to relax. I'm like, okay. Don't kill me. Because if that is feels like they're they're going to break your neck. I've seen movies or something. I don't know. Why felt that way? Now, we got to watch our backs because she can look all the way around now, dude. Did you ever do the thing that extreme couture where the knows where they popped that? They put the balloon. I had never did that to me. Everybody that does it has great results. But they all have this look of pain Niksic said I slept like a baby for a month. Yeah. But did you watch him in the video? He was like. And then afterwards. I don't know if I wanna go through all describing think it's called the cranial release. They put a balloon inside your nostrils inflate it, and basically your your nose expands or your one of your nostrils does until it pops in guess, there's some sort of a release Cody Garbrandt had a countdown for the see if you ever want to go back and look at it. And he does it, but it makes science behind it. Because I feel like that's kind of like one of those freaky things that does does not really like oh cool expanded. Like, I don't really believe in chiropractic work that much either. Like, I'm a hard sell like you have to really like back that up because I feel like okay? I my neck all the time. It's like does not magical, you know, fix me. Like, I'm a by the way. You lost the chiropractic sponsors. I don't know prove me wrong. Somebody said though about being comfortably. I get more out of my massage session. If I'm able to relax and get said like an issue of having then I don't like deep tissue massage either. I'm not I'm not big on massage either. Like that. We really yeah. Ause? Okay. So here's what I think is wrong with especially deep tissue. I think they say that it releases toxins, but I think it causes it. It causes a RAB dough. That's like the short word for for the long word that I can't pronounce grabbed all my low since I think is what it's called. Maybe. Anyway, basically where they crushed the tissue. So if you get like an in an accident in your squished between something, and you actually burst your cells like your blood cells they release like, I guess what you would call it their guts like. And then you it's waste that your body has to actually take out, and that's what actually causes you to get sick. None that you're releasing toxins, but you're actually causing them. You're actually crushing the tissue so hard that it is forced to Riley Shushi hates deep tissue. Yeah. I don't like it. I like the elbow. You know, when they get the oboe action going that kind of hurts me does it. I like it. I just gotta get back to the company, but I gotta get to that comfortable stage. You know, a massage. I dunno different guys and girls, either different different worries and preferences. Who's massaging you, and what's kind of going through your mind. But I know as a guy kinda like, I gotta loosen up. I I feel like I'm not getting my full benefit if I'm not like. Well woody. He's like, I just tend up and I'm like, bro. They're professionals. Stop worrying about anything else. Just go in there. And let them work on you. When I get out. I feel real good the next day when I'm showering. I'm like, oh, yeah. Yeah. Get everything. When I was in my training camps. And everyone's like, oh, you have to do that. I'm like, whatever. Okay. So I went and did it, and I'm like I feel like crap the next day. Like, I feel very sluggish in my training sessions. It takes me about two days to recover from. No. I haven't done enough research on that. But there's actually been cases where people have been hospitalized because from deep tissue massage because of that RAB dough necropsy. Yeah. One guy was was massage by like two people at one time for a couple of hours, and it was like such deep tissue massage got severely sick from it. Oh and had to be hospitalized since we're on the how about cupping your it on that. Yeah. Again. I did. I tried it. But like, I'm not I'm not a big believer in that. Either me either. I don't think I mean because it brings all that blood scissors. And then you have those Hickey looking marks. And I can't really understand the concept between that either. I also feel good. I also don't believe in icing that I'm like the most. Chamber at your house or what what's going on? How do you? I do hyper Barrick, I have a very chamber. Yeah. But I don't believe in icing. I got an old Chinese uncle has actually been four peer reviews proving that there's never been a significant benefit like any benefit actually, no proven benefits, icing, only damage and noble. I swear a lot of like athletes other countries out with Gary rhino, the anti iceman. He's actually been to the White House. Like he's in charge of like some some teams. Now, he's a doctor, but he is literally in a mission to get the ice seem like after a workout or are you talking about like implement like when you're inflamed and they put ice packs on. Why don't we know that goes, I wouldn't attack an ice bath? But I would say just icing at least one spot is not good. It's not good for you. It really isn't. I know. It sounds crazy. But like, why would you wanna prohibit inflammation, inflammation? Tell you. He'll you're not going to either like realistically if you ice it. It's going to inflame to where it needed to anyways. Because that's your body has to do. So as you take the ice off. You can't leave it on the twenty four seven right through Iceland ankle that just broke it delays, the swelling. But it's not gonna stop it. He soon as you take it off heat. I don't know. Maybe maybe I'm not one of those girls at a two years old shows. I don't believe in Santa don't even bother. Throw that. All right. But seriously, look it up very you put the thing on, you know, in, you know, how it came up was that that a kid the first kid that he lost his arm like he he got it severed from his body it it was in the sixties. And it was the first time that the mighty no they he hit. It was on a train hit. He's stuck his arm out or something, and they got it severed noth- from icing what they put on ice, and they were able to reattach it. So if you're if you're limits separated from the body ice does have a purpose. But then it became this magical thing, and now it's like a million billion dollar industry, and they told all the soccer moms and the world like anytime. Your kid gets hurt you have to ice it. And that's how I became like popular people didn't know any better. It's really interesting. Like, look it up. On a lot of these. But I'll have to look into the ICU dicing biggest one wolverine it. Like what happens when what do you tell? How do you get better move? Your lymphatic system is what are you gonna call? Lymphatic oh lymphatic system is the passive system. So the only way to like, get inflammation out through your system is to load the muscle. So you have to basically move move. Inactivity is the worst. Can you know what I don't? I don't like medication. Neither pills the devil. That's what I think that too. But I always feel like, you know, they do studies like say coffee, and then they like fifty years later, they go. Hey turns out that's what I feel like it's going to happen with Tylenol that stuff. Starting to like how it affects your kidneys or your liver and stuff like that. And those stupid commercials at the end how fast that guy read through all them. Terrible things. Is may bleed. Your toes might fall off. This is going to be like three remember commenting on that being like, yeah. It's like, you know, tired of stuffy noses, try this. And like, yeah. You anal war? It's all these like, why would I want? I think the stuffy nose, please keep the stuffy nose. You can keep all the risk of suicide suicide and like wait, they're not even like eating out of your is call the doctor. He has not even like stuff's going to happen to you. It's like you might actually just off yourself. If you take this like, what are you selling Josh route that we didn't think you wanna you wanna hitter with that, Josh? Yeah. I'm just curious to meet you where you fall in when it comes to like CBD products like especially like CBS say rage. Now, I was gonna ask northwest lady. Cannabis. I I mean, I don't, but I'm not against I think it's probably one of the better routes to go. I would I believe in that more. So than pharmaceuticals or I think that, you know, marijuana for lots of people have cancer pain management. I think it's the one of the best ways to go to be honest. But I think CBD has some good benefits. I'm not against it. I'm not a huge proponent of it either though, I'm not somebody who uses it. So I don't really know. But of people say it's good for them. And it's the fact that it's natural. I'm more for that. Can we go back to massage real quick? Okay. So you don't think it helps? But does it at least feel good to another? It's like downtown's day's coming up. Right. If you got like a thing for massage would that make you happy happy, medium, massages? It can't be like a deep tissue massage. And it can't be like, you know, so much just like tickling your back. Seattle be. Feel good like I don't wanna be in pain when I get a massage. How about this at our sitting Hello digging? Now when you're sitting at home and Johnny comes from behind his how's your day? And does that do you like shrug them off like that with a scowl or are you like, oh, you know, it feels good as long as he's not like using his elbow or feels good? But you don't think there's a benefit to a professional athlete. Tissue massage. I believe deep tissue. I think for blood flow and for relaxation, and all that that could be great. I just don't think like that, you know, getting in there and grinding your tissue against bone of bone is what it feels like to me. That's what I was phony back. That's what I was going to be surprised at what you're getting. Okay. But it's only to them I say massage because it sounds like, you know, proponent of natural healing them. So it was gonna move to Asia careful because you know, it's like a whole different school there. You know, I say just to be able to Chinese uncle passed away. Sadly, but a he had a it was a chiropractor out in China, but we moved to wa- heated just degrees weren't recognize, unfortunately. So he would just do stuff out of his garage. But I had locked not in Jay, right? Getting hit too much or something. I don't know. And they said in operable t and j you can't, you know, it's a big thing that the dawn, I even talked to Dr Moxley one of the best oral surgeons out here. Couldn't do anything for me. And when out there pointed to him, you know in his garage pointed you, just be good English. Kind of said, you know. Getting hit he pointed to the anatomy of a person, little herb thing. I'm sure it was nothing or whatever just mixed his hands in and I laid on his table and he just worked my jar. It just was like a massage my job for twenty minutes. And I never had it. Locked up again did stuff for my my stepdad. Cain vietnam. Veterans and was running on the beach that same trip went from walking on a cane. So it's crazy stuff. But silently blaming me show. His even for what it's worth makes you feel better his own son didn't still didn't even believe in it out of that. And he actually became a chiropractor, but went through western schooling, and the actual college it's kind of an odd dichotomy there, but but just shows the different types of schools of thought, I think there are truths to some. But I do like the the point of use you're bringing for sure. I like like healthy massage. Like, it's got to feel good feel like it's do something. Right. If it's like the point where you're cringing, you're like trying to like, hold your breath through it. I think that's too. That's too much. I think you're causing damage then and I felt that too heavy one. And I have a good person doesn't now by the way. She's awesome. But I felt that Draghi feeling like the day after your feeling of I'm not an athlete. So I didn't have to worry about anything. Spar the next then I'm like really like when your job is getting punched in the face. The last thing you wanna do is anything that makes you feel like you can't hang in there. You know, because then you're just going to get beat up. It's not like a day in the office where you just like go and sit on your computer different bad day. It's the different bat day. Missing in any way, as a competitor. No, not may. I I haven't sparred since before I got pregnant at all. But I do like to go to the grappling classes, you know. I like I love ju jitsu. So I'm hoping to compete in that and some at some. Thinking when Amanda fought cyborg. I mean, I was really stoked when they were walking out. I was always against the matchup because I felt like. I well, I guess Amanda could argue she cleared up division. I thought killing VERA was deserving of a shot and. But whatever, but what Dana is right about one thing. When the fights about the begin you do kind of pinch yourself and go. Wow, Amandas fighting cyborg. I that's pretty damn cool. And I was wondering what a lot of the females thought because that was that, you know, that's one of them's super fights right up there. Like we series you had with Rhonda or when cyborg pot Gina chronic back in the day. You know, I mean, there's been some pretty epic fights Amandas amazing. My god. That woman is incredible. She really is. And I remember saying time and time again, look, look, if you're asking me gun to the head who I who am I going to pick him in a pick cyborg because she's the woman to be and we barely seen a crack a chink in the armor with the girls that she's been fighting. And amanda. Does that every disadvantage she's going up in weight? You know, cyborg has lost somebody years, you know. And so I'm, but I'm, but I remember fighting Amanda and thinking like that woman hits so hard, you know, her jab her simple jab feels like a right hand. And then her right hand handfuls like you got hit by a truck. And I said if she lands that right hand of cyborg doesn't respect the fact that Amanda has enough power to knock her out. She's going to be in trouble. She actually I I was like cyborg needs a strategy in this fight. She she's never needed a strategy in any file it was like she really needs a strategy in this fight. And Amanda went out there and she landed the right hand and you follow former professional boxer Holly whole compare. The her striking with Amandas, for example, the power and the punches is not not even Fokker in the same league. I mean, Amanda hits way harder. So with. I mean, it's too late now. But if we turn back the clock three years and just immersed Amanda Nunez in boxing unique. She could have some success. Wow. So it's like that out for sure definitely I think if she ever decides to go that route should be fairly successful just based on her raw power. She's so so strong. She hit so hard. She's very pinpoint. She's very efficient with air strikes like much more not much gets wasted. You know what? I mean. She makes makes you pay for every strike. She patient like she doesn't just rush in and WALE. I was very impressed as well. I was shocked, but it's one of those things that I kind of knew having fought her. You know, you it's crazy to see it happen. It's crazy to see cyborg go down like that. Especially that quick. I'm but I remember how hard she hits. And I was like, yeah. I I I believe it. I've been hit by the woman, she hits really really hard. You know as soon as that it was over. I swear it was like seconds afterwards. Did you see the mean where it has four of you? And it's kind of like a mount Rushmore type type picture urine it. Rhonda's in it cyborg in it. And a man is at the top geographic with that. Yeah. Right. He kicked all of our asses. You know? You know, what what the being up there all that? My like, my if I had a resume for fighting like I do. But like one of the things that it has to list now is that I lasted longer than Rhonda and cyber combined against Amanda. Right. Isn't that cool? I'm like, hey, you know, I what also the other day to towards Connor ideal meeting with the distance with a b. I I was half of that fight. I I was trying so hard to recover in. And she just kept finding finding me in hid in landing those punches, and we just couldn't couldn't get away. I don't even remember shooting in that fight. I went back and watched it, and I was like I I shot. It was like, I don't remember. I remember the first one before I got hit, obviously. But the desperation shot later after I was busted up. No recollection of that. Or being on the ground or anything? I don't remember any of it. All right. We go to quick break through that right now. You listening to Emma may junkie radio on fight nation. Ninety three we have Michel Tate in the house. And of course, in addition to. The executive job with one championship that I listed earlier also hurt being a former bantamweight champ with strikeforce in the UC. She's also a fellow fight nation colleague, she hosts Emma made tonight on Wednesdays. Everyone is with Big Mac. Ryan mcconnell. So you gotta tune in. And check it out three PM Pacific six PM eastern. So in other words tomorrow, anyway, we'll be right back. We'll talk about that. And some more stuff when we come back. Today's show. You can listen back on demand streaming anytime on your phone or at home. Unserious XM connected devices in speakers. The. Inbreeds forced them to retire undefeated from 'em. A with a record of oh, oh, they are gorgeous, George and go, and this is Emma may junkie radio. Just tipping off the Milwaukee box. They're going to be tipping off against James harden, and the Houston Rockets enjoy all the action from the hardwood on NBA radio series. Two seven Eighty-six streaming on your phone and at home on Tuesday extent connected devices, speakers we should take from an mkx tonight. Is our guest co host here. First our Michel you're going to be leaving for Singapore win in a couple of months. I think the spring of nineteen. March or early April early April, the latest, you know, I catch your show from time to time man on the specific win is the you were telling Ryan that you are headed to Singapore to talk about a potential job. He was trying to get it from you. You are being the vaults and not releasing anything and only because it caught the episode and only because now you've got the job. Can we have some fun with it? But. It couldn't have been more than I think he told them you were leaving right after the show or something like that. Do you remember that? Yeah. Okay. And so then I happen to be up like at one AM or midnight, and I'm scrolling through Twitter and the announcements have been made, and I'm like, she couldn't have possibly been saying for met Chachi discussed it and. Yeah. So obviously a deal must have already been in place, or maybe guess communicated while you're on the jet or something. No. But you know, we had discuss it. But to my to my knowledge he changed when he wanted the announcement. He wanted to make it sooner. So to mine knowledge, it was going to be when I got there. They were going to make the announcement. But he did reach out to me and ask can I make the announcement. Now, there was some press meeting that he wanted to announce it at and I said sure go ahead. I was at the airport in L A. The already knew golfer was let you wanted to be a part. I was just withholding information, then you're moving there with your baby. And that that's home. Now. It's well, you know, it's not indefinite. We're we're going to be experts so to speak. So we'll be there for eight. It's a year to two year plan. We're going to kind of reevaluate in the year. And obviously, it's not just me. My goal is two years. But I do have a family to consider. I think it's flowing boy one trip. Yes. Okay. So from again listening to me tonight, you're going to be a consultant. But I thought I heard you say you're going to be calling fights as well. Like, I guess the third man or in this case third woman in the booth chevelle. No color commentator. Forget his name. Sorry. And you'll be actually on the Mike participating as well events a month. Nice. Okay. So as they're expanding and the new partnership with TNT and. Broadcasting in the states. It's just going to be too many shows for the same group to do it every single weekend eventually want to get to Friday and Saturday shows on every weekend. It's a little much for just one crew. So we're going to kind of rotate in and help each other. And I'll be a part of the evolve fight team is coach as well. So it'd be part of athlete development and. Doing over there. I think it'd be heading some charity work and possibly. Showing beheading little like. Wow. Somebody's on the line. They behead people. Oh, I know that they. People. I know what for two tagging. You're not a graffiti artist, are you? Okay. Graffiti, though, do you get it from spitting your dumb on five hundred dollar fine. Bodas drugs is death. Maybe beheading I dunno and caning is from graffiti, I thought that they caned for spitting or they can Cain for spitting gum on the street as well. I know they don't sell it there. They don't sell gum. It's not illegal to have it. But they're not going to sell. It is illegal to spit on the street, though, was very utopian very clean. It's so safe. I believe it's it's at least top three safest countries if not number one, probably number one. I believe it is number one. I'd have to look up that statistic. Again, have you already chosen a home? Have you done all that yet about five different places looked at some high rises I want to be right smack smack dab in the middle of it. It's going to be totally different life than I'm used to coming from Washington. And even here, you know, still having a half acre to move around on it's going to be very small, very concise. Very simple, but I'm excited to embrace the whole culture over there and the chain. Change and everything you know, what your order of businesses when you get there. Like, the first thing you wanna do that type of stuff in regards to one in regards to one will obviously the first thing I want to do is start training at the gym. And and, you know, being a coach, but that's evolved. That's kind of kind of a different business. Even though it's under the same umbrella. I think the first thing that I want to do just get accustomed to the to the office getting to know everybody and. I think the first thing that I want to do is look into the charity work, you know, chart tree the CEO and chairman of one championship has a huge goal of ending severe world property, the Goral wide. He wants to end it so shot us a very giving, man. He's got a great vision. And he's very humble, and he's very he's all about camaraderie, you know, in the business, you know, it. It sounds kind of crazy. But it's it's not it's not a money driven businesses all about like family like is a very family feel and the emails that we get is all about like welcoming and promoting and and like helping each other, you know, being there to support each other in a different way than I've ever seen any major business organization around inside the states some very looking forward to that. I think it's going to be a great fit for me there as well. But I'm excited to help him move on that those charity benefits a lot of people love one championship. Because it kind of reminds him a little bit of. With the the fighting style that you're allowed to use. If you were still fighting, and you were free agent would you ever fight under those rules is that something that would make you happy? Definitely soccer kicks. Hey, so you know, why why withhold why withhold any of it? You know, realistically only think dumbest ruling Emma may still is that that the no like twelve six elbow like what? So you're telling me that I can do this to somebody and bash them in the face with my elbow. But this I mean, which is more powerful, honestly, like emotion like that is not nearly as powerful as me winding up and putting my body down into an elbow to silly. Like, sometimes people who make the rules like was hardly know. What's what? Eleven forty five to five forty five. That's that's the twelve. The eagle is a little. Yeah. If you're doing it this way. Not straight on them. Yeah. Well, the elbow can only go back so far. So I always look at it as you can either take a hammer and go like that or take a baseball bat and go like that. I'd rather get hit by the hammer like that then the whole. Oh, brutal. All right. I do want to ask you a question. You're not going to like me. But I think it's fair and. I think it's what people wonder in the summer of two thousand eighteen another major website came out and did a study on the business of one championship. And for a little while just like any big story in MMA. It was it was a hot topic. And then it goes away. Did you also talked to Cianci about that? Yeah. I hope you know, what I'm talking about bloody elbow. They did it was the financial the one championship. Maybe they aren't what they represent. Because all we heard great things about them there with a billion dollars, and they're going to be worth war and the places are sold out. But then we heard other stuff, and you know, you're pretty business savvy. I mean aside from managing fighters you've been behind the cameras and everything and. Did you hear about that report? And did you also have your questions? And if so did he answer them to your satisfaction. We have not discussed that. I wish there was more insight that I could offer. But I think once we go over there. We'll be in connection bore on a regular basis the biggest hindrance right now with the communication is the time difference. So it's like a fifteen hour difference. So there's that and the expectation which is again, it's crazy because Chachi is not he has like really like very little expectation of me at this point until I move over there. And even then he's like should take your time get adjusted like it's not a rush solder race. We want you to be happy. You walked you to be feeling good about everything. But. As far as I know with with one championship. What what I do know is the trees, a very, very smart man like very intelligent. And I'm sure that he has his long-term vision. Let people think that he's spending too much money here. And I'm here at the criticism throwing money at this fighter in that fighter. But I know that there's a long-term vision beyond that. And there's some major investors in one championship. And the Lauren Mack is a good friend of ours. You know, learn from the PR team over there at one championship of you met him. Yeah. Yeah. And he is sworn that one championship is. I mean, it's a strong company with you know, with strong backing also since the report they signed to meet your Johnson, any Alvarez rich Franklin's been with them for many years mad human with over many years, another good friend of ours. Michael chevelle? He lived in Vegas for ten years. You know, he's signed he's their play by play announcer. So even though that report came out and Chachi. Also debunked it. Well, I should say he had a strong rebuttal towards it. It all just kind of went away. And then I just wondered what had happened since then. But I knew that that and then and then you got signed you know, what I mean? So I'm like, I wonder if there's going to be a follow up to that. Because that they should be fair. You're going to put out an article like that in one championship can show. Hey, look, we're growing for signing. You know, the, I I it sucks that it happened like that because you know, many fans they'll run with whatever the here, right? But but I think that the the proof is in the pudding. You know? I think that you can watch one championship expanding and apple is awesome there. Mike cards are beautiful to watch like the production. You know what I mean? And now the fact that the signing a lot of North American based talent whether it's on the executable like yourself or those other fighters I mentioned, and they said they're not done yet. And they're only he's a stickler for tension to detail teeth. And he you know, he is all about. His his brand awareness in the value of that. And he just incredibly intelligent, incredibly driven. And I he's got he's got big plans in the works and one championship is doing just fine. And it's going to continue to grow when they're capitalizing on the the potentially the largest market in the world in Asia. So. One championship is the UFC to Asia. And they're they're only getting bigger and better. Josh can you give me an update on our next guest? Is he ready to go? Or should we stick in the last break right now before the guest calls at least going to break that way? When that let's do that. Yeah. All right. You listening to him a major fight nation Chelny three. Greg org. Espy will becoming calling and soon from the UC he'll be fighting Yancy Medeiros. How about that fight guys UFC on ESPN, plus one in Brooklyn, it's this Saturday. And of course, we have Mr. Tate in studio here for the first hour. So hang tight. Let's discuss here as we wind down this first hour. Great can hold my. But he do what they say. And your life will be a lot better. Here are gorgeous sin goes like I mentioned before the commercial. Geico Gillespie we'll be fighting Yancy Medeiros at the upcoming card with Suharto and dillashaw at the top of the Bill. It's going to be on ESPN, plus part of the cards actually on ESPN Gillespie's undefeated at twelve and last one was over Vince Michele also in the state of New York, but in Utica this past summer, and now he faces Yancy Medeiros. It's going to be a great fight. You gotta check it out. And Greg Gillespie joins us now on the hotline. What's up Gregoire? How you doing? Purpose. Probably. Good my walkouts on right? Yeah. Man. Do that exactly. Our producers very very savvy so tip of the hat to Justice. All right on until fight night. You got screwed it up a little. The same way. Literally. I hated listening to my walkout song before. Because it would just give me all pumped up got to save the hat. Like can. I can't hear this before. Shut shut it off. I don't wanna feel that day night. So it was a good thing or a bad thing that we just played it now. Right. You didn't play enough of it to get me on. Okay. Hey gregoire. So you had an awesome performance this past June. And even though that took you to five no in the sea in twelve or no, I feel like that one really really like had people now wanting to see more of Gregory Gillespie the contender to the UFC lightweight title. My question is why did it take us about seven months to see you again was that by your choice were you injured or they just slow to book, you know, nj actually I was really healthy. After that. I that I've had kind of really enjoy without having a fight over the summer at the end of the summer. A new fishing boat. I wanted the fish I wanted to do it my family, and you know, I got two fights in early in the year. I tried to play three times a year. And actually, I am fighting three times in a year today. So I am fighting three times since last January. I just didn't get three fights in the year of thousand. But you know, I got joy this summer. I got to be out on my boat. I got to do with all my friends back. Upstate New York. I got to do all the fish that. I wanted to do. And I got there. Enjoy my new fishing boat. So I had a good summer. It's the first one I've had quite a few years. So. Now when it comes to the fishing. So we're originally from California, and we live in Las Vegas, but my buddies go out and chase the Marlins down by Mexico. What what what do you go fishing after? All right. So some completely different. You guys Yeltsin, obviously, I live in Long Island now. So a lot of the fishing in Long Island, ocean fishing. It's a lot of striper in tuna. And and fish off the shore that there are Lukin flounder, but what I do is upstate New York and like the finger lakes region and up on Lake Ontario. We're salmon fishing where Muskie fishing a little bit of bath, fish and some fight fishing. But it's all big predatory freshwater fish. Do you troll for the fish? My jam right there. I love trolling. Yeah. That's that's what my dad, and I used to go fishing in the Puget Sound for the Pacific northwest troll, throw, the what of this call the thing that the you drop the weight down on them. They're not like without the diago down riggers. Yeah. You just drop those in and used cruise around and drink beard. Oh, yeah. I'm sure that's what you start. See me she wanted to clear the fact that she didn't drink the beer until she was twenty one. But like all. Yeah. They'll really what did you your first beer me show with your with your pops fishing? What maybe no I wasn't quite that young. But that don't think I was quite. Yeah. It was probably my teens. Yeah. Third world now. So we're all of we or did that make sense? We all right goes. Greg listening Gregor. Now, this could be six straight here for you. Have you had a conversation with the matchmakers about where a win? Here puts you like what what type of opponent would be next. You don't know. You know, I take things wants finding the time. You know, obviously, if you've seen me fight you'd see my interviews. I don't call anyone out. And it's, you know, first of all not a guy that's gonna talk shit. I'm not I'm not a talker. And I'm not gonna call anyone because after the fighting as you guys know, it's like a weight off your shoulders. I don't wanna be thinking about a fight right after. So we gotta get back the Jong board a little quicker this time. I will. I know it's about a layoff time of six or seven months. But I haven't had that that talk yet. I need to get past this weekend. I then focused on doing that. From one of the few people that have fought Yancey. The thing about him as you come in with the kind of talk. We're not talking about my opponents. I don't do it. Not on topic. It all I don't do that. When did you pump prefers beer them? Go that route. Probably like fourteen or fifty and goes on. The Russell Shepard Florida. How about your last beer actually that was may thirty first two thousand ten. Okay. Like drove myself into rehab. How about that? Right. So may thirtieth was not a good night on the thirty first. I knew I was I knew I was going in the next day. And I had I tried to do my back that from fun wasn't quite there. When did three half the next morning was tied us decision. I ever made. Wow. That's amazing. What a cool story was. It was FEMA. What I mean? Do they may have anything to do the turning point was it after that that you got me for not knowing this? No, absolutely not at that point. I was like maybe you and a half removed from my last year eligibility college. Rousing get four years at us those up I did very well in college. And I actually swore that I was never gonna compete again. I was very sick of that regiment didn't super disciplined lifestyle. And I actually remember telling when I was done. I remember saying someone I my sentence it serve, you know. I did my time. I'm Don, I'm I'm now, and I was watching a Frankie. I'd you're drinking beers. Or on the buddy you'd be really good at this yesterday. Shut the fuck up in. I don't wanna talk about this. I'm never going to fight not about two and a half years later. I got clean and sober. I sat wrestling again. Jordan bells one my weight class in one is first world title. And I said, I gotta get out of this sport. He's gonna take over. And I predicted that. That one. So I got into fighting and here I am. All right, Dan. What do you where Gregor Gillespie? Con along those same lines of what what got you into fighting. I guess I wanted to ask you more about your grappling game Gregor. You know, before you got the UFC tried to get some footage on you. There wasn't. There wasn't a lot. But I was really impressed with what I saw and a lot of times, you know, wrestlers they translate obviously, what m may they they transfer obviously what a grappling. But when you see wrestlers kind of like yourself or even a Michael Chandler, the guys who they're not afraid to put hooks in early on in their career and ride positions. And and that's really impressive, man. Can you talk about that term that got you from a wrestler because I know you said you when you were done with wrestling you were done, but you ended up getting back in was the grappling. Or was it more just the way that kind of drew back into the competitive fire? All right here. Version of how this happened. I got credence Solta. I went back. I finished school where I actually wrestled at Edinburgh had another year of school left ask after my last year. Eligiblity I did that I got a coaching offer down in Hof threat in Long Island, New York, New York, I took that offer moved down there coaching for year. I started doing like private roughing lessons out of an emanation Jim in my spare time someone needed like a sparring partner. Who is you know, they need a wrestler this book clubs on just try to kick me. And I said you got it. And I was like is a good guy too. And it was like beating him. So I was like oh my God. I could do this. And I started like messing around doing the classes at the gym. I said I'm pretty good at this. And so I said after one year coaching, and I think I'm dumb, but the coach your I'm going to pursue this. And I'll just keep wrestling in my spare time to make a few bucks. And that's what got me started. And then, you know, I really loved the grappling obviously being wrestler, and I was more a ground dresser. Anyway, though, the top guy have achieved familiar with wrestling. There's neutral top and bottom I was top guy and probably shows in my fighting. I love tops control. And I got I got introduced to Joe Scarola over at Gracie Baja and up in was up in Long Island, New York. And he showed me the ropes and he had me slow down by wrestling a little bit. I was using a lot of like like pace to beat guys and get them tired jujitsu. And he said that's not really the way to do it then and he taught me to slow it down, and it looked for my openings, and we've really clicked so he showed me how to to become a real rap where not just a wrestler rattler, you know. I got one I got one do you? Remember your first sparring session because you talk about coming from wrestling. And I share remember my first sparring session. And I hated it. I hated it because I was flat-footed, and I just I was getting beat up, and I just didn't understand how to do it. And it's crazy the transformation is like as you get going. You do it more and more. How you fall in love with it. You know and points where I was just loved the striking aspect of it. But I'm curious about your first experience was sparring. Something along the lines of every time. Someone threw a me I shot. It was something along the lines of that. I I would throw a punch if they threw back I would shoot if they through. I I would shoot it was like I didn't really understand the striking at first. And I really didn't do any Pat worker much drilling leading up to my first sparring, and this kind of just like, hey, can you Spar? I knew the guy that can Russell as it. Yeah. Sure. I'll I'll try it out. I mean, once I sparked a few times actually kind of did it backwards. I think I met nice striking coach and head coach now Keith Trimble after I'd already sparred. And then he, you know, he taught me how to strike, and we did a lot of pad where we did a lot of drilling. And then I was actually barring sparring real guys like Ryan the flair and Denver Muda ads, and he's a few times came in and we were messing around. But like, you know, I I remember going with Ryan the flair and like I couldn't just take him out. You know, he's obviously a very season fighter at that point. And I was diving in on shot, and he's like less than than you have to learn how to pick your shots and use your strike India shop, this is a fight. It's not wrestling and. That stock with me and that must have been like probably four or five years ago, and it's five years ago. He's like listening you have to learn how to use your strength into your take downs. You can't just died in from the way you're gonna get caught doing that. And so we've worked on that ever since. But I remember one of my like probably in my first year of sparring. I was sparring Ryan la- flair. And he's a lefty he threw a really hard round kick it my hat, and I blocked it with my right arm, and he actually broke my all which I had two surgeries to repair. Yeah. I was for fourteen now. Yeah. Broken former I'm hearing more and more about it to ours is went through something like the all right Gregoire. Thanks very much for hanging with us here on fight week. We wish you the best of luck on Saturday night. And hopefully, we can talk to you again, post-flight anytime. Good luck on Saturday. Thank you guys that shit. She'll talk him. All right. We'll see Gregoire. All right there. You have it. It goes down on Saturday. The ESPN era starts in the U of C and. It's all headline by Henry pseudo versus T J dillashaw cannot wait for that fight. Who would you like in that fight mission? They're both good. I think I mean, obviously, I feel like TJ because he's just so experienced, and you know, I don't know the bigger guy Noah a lot of people are worried about is cut. But the one thing that I feel like TJ is really dialed in and has a solid team around him. The that's that's the thing that he's invested so much into himself. And I feel like he'll be able to get down and make that cut and he wrestled forever the basis it's not it's not new to him. Yeah. It's the first time we've seen him at one twenty-five. But guarantee you it's not the first time he's had to be this dedicated not the first time, he's cut way. It's not it's it's not a totally foreign field to him. So I'm confident that he'll be able to go down and move light on his speech, very hard to catch and take down for anybody. Even even somebody like Henry pseudo who's phenomenal wrestling, you know, again, it's not it's not just wrestling. What did you think of Greg wars approach to ninety wanting to talk about his opponent? Like that. We heard that before. Or is it been a while like, maybe strategy? But never did you want to hear the name. I know he's never called people. Alec never did that. I remember that. Yeah. To never not even talk about your opponent member. That was interesting if you for a loop. Oh, yeah. Goes. Yeah. What I was thinking. Yeah. I feel that I feel bad to feel back the curtain a bit. I I call it one of his interviews earlier this week with Luke, I believe, and that was a simple thing think. So. Yeah. I actually did. I gave you. Like that extreme where not even like, I said, don't go. I said don't go with regular questions guy. Throwback Saint parlaying efficient. I approach actually to talk about to connect the to fishing way to get him to go talk about the back door. But that kinda got you anyways, I should have been better about warning. You listen to what he's done in the sport twelve o five and see. But I I disagree with that. I think there's got to be a there's got to be a promotion of your own fight. Not just dillashaw hudo. I don't care whether you're getting paid peop- viewpoints. Or not you, you know, people are listening. They wanna know who who I wanna be a fan of. You're not going to give me the fan of the same people forever. It depends on what he's okay in the minute. He said fishing. There's a lot of people that love the fish. They probably had a connection at that moment. You know what I mean? So if he's not going to call people out after the fights, and he doesn't want to talk much about the opponent prefight that makes it tough it makes it harder to sell. But I felt like we got into a whole interesting. Oh, we got into a whole other interesting conversation. You get to know him a little bit more as a person. Dig those interesting is great. I mean, we we we kinda dug a little deeper than the the rudimentary questions like what do you think about this because we have to jet, and I know our time's up with you. So thanks so much stop and buying. Hopefully before you leave we can sticky here one more time. But in the meantime, please say Hello to Johnny. And maya. And we will see what we'll see you soon. And we'll hear from you tomorrow on tonight, three Pacific six eastern with Big Mac, Ryan mckinnell. That's me should take all her on Twitter at me state, and we'll be right back after this top of the hour break. Harry, buddy. Thanks for listening to them. I may junkie radio. I want to take this time to let you know about our producer Danny show. It's called puppet off and airs live twice a week. Wednesdays nine pm eastern, six PM Pacific and Thursdays. Eight pm eastern five PM Pacific. You can find the show. If you missed the live show, you can find the recording on itunes Spotify or YouTube the following day. Check it out. It's a lot of fun, and you get to see a little bit more of our producer Danny's personality and my phone just rang in the background Salter. Deepen. It's popping off joining with us in studio we have Tom Paine from Walking Dead. You got real socked in the bay. I mean, the show is very very in you, thanks Mitch ferry. Like rough house e and eight knows stuntman hanging around everyone on the show just jumps in and gets involved. And that was my rude awakening to the show being chased around the field by Newman, and then him grabbing me and touching me in the face as a saying that everyone has when they join which is welcome to the Walking Dead. And so was set in this kind of like, you're just doing a cult. Welcome to the working day. Watch live on the. Youtube stream. During the commercial break. They were all tested for performance enhancing drugs Georgian goes came back clean but dad tested positive for Viagra. Like a lot of it hero. The boys. All right. Thanks to Josh, man. He's been killing it. He book Gregoire Gillespie AMI sedate. So thank you very much. Josh for that jump up. Oh. Yeah. I want to go back to Gregoire Gillespie. I want to be fair here. It is fight week. And look there is a measure of success. He's had to whatever strategy is of look I'm blocking everything out because you do have to go in there with a clear mind. Otherwise, you're gonna get fucked up, you know, but I think if he's okay with it then, but he has to realize that probably if the boss her that he'd say, what are you doing? That's just the thing. Exactly. There's two things. I'm glad you brought that one one is what is the think? And what are they gonna do? If let's say Greg was the six zero at some point he's going to be in pseudo or dillashaw shoes and a lot of people even more than just EMMY junkie ally. People that they line up for you to do media with are going to ask you that. And like for how long can you keep that up? I don't know. But that's from the business side. Will they want to put you in that position the headline to telling you, I think I'm batting thousand or if not nine ninety five when it comes to fighters who have been very conservative in their careers in the way, they handle themselves or how they want to hand them handle themselves with respect with class with professionalism hoping that by being a good guy or gal pays off in the end. And what happens is before they retire. They have a little bit of a bittersweet moment knowing that. Oh, wow. This isn't how this particular business works and being more vocal. I'm not saying, you gotta go out there and trash everybody, and you know, f bomb Twitter left and right. But you know, what I mean like that approach you just wind up seeing how a lot of people they're either bitter because they didn't cash in or their late in cashing in. And you know, I don't know I feel bad. And maybe I shouldn't. 'cause I know they don't feel bad for me when I'm struggling, you know, so why should I feel bad for them? Because I feel like we're giving them a platform. But I'm telling you it happens all the time. Do you think the UFC's just in a different era where you're right a win here? That's six now. Do you remember when like guys like Dennis Bermudez wasn't he like eight now at one point and still not even he was maybe like outside looking in to getting close to a title shot has way too much. You can't let yourself get to that. And that's what I'm saying. Like, if he's okay with it, then I guess while they're all gonna want that bell. They're all going to tell you. They're okay with it. Yeah. But then what's going to happen is? Well, it's going to happen in a few years. This is big get overlooked. And then they're gonna they're gonna there's going to be an interview where they say goes. And this business has got to be loud and vocal or you gotta say this. You got to say that. Yeah. That's unfortunate. It is that way. Can I weigh in on Greg? All right. I was trying to say it earlier before we went to break again, you know, actually, a big fan of this guy. And I do a lot of research on them not just for fights. But you know, when I research, these cards guy just watching fights. I'm watching all their interviews. I'm watching everything I can get a hold of a serial killer. Which is another reason why I spent so much time on these. But yet it it was one of those things where some guys you got to approach. I'm kind of jumbling kind of two parts here. What we're talking about before? And what you had to talking about now because I think they marry well together, but I I'm fine with that man, I'm fine with approach as long as you're willing to open up another area. So back to how Greg or is in and you know, just by his own admission. I don't wanna talk about fighters. I don't wanna promote. I understand. What comes with it? Not me. I completely respect that approach part of me from the martial artist thing that. Yeah. Absolutely. Why not it's your moment, man? And it says it's such a heavy moment. It's such a it's such a stressor. I get. I mean, I get stressed just writing a writing a writing a paper and trying to make a deadline, and I gotta remember the one time I had to meet some dude in a cage or something or you know, even through exhibitions and stuff, which aren't as hefty. They're still you get nerves you get nerves too much. What these guys have to do, man? I totally respect that you want to focus on your opponent. You're about to step into a cage something that most of us criticizing them for not doing, you know won't or we'll never do believe me. I get that. But but you gotta make something else. Interesting. If you don't want to sell us, your trash talk. If you don't want it, then whatever it is fishing, whatever it is lettuce in. So like, for example, I would find I would've asked me Gregor about a music. He mentioned the music getting pumped in house. Find it weird in New York guy. But he's inefficient and got like a mullet between he's got tattoos and hairstyles. So so me, I'm kinda putting the things get their music. And you know, he seemed pretty receptive. When you guys were talking about drinking experiences or other fun things. So so I would give him a pass. I guess what? I'm trying to say. Long winded here, and I give guys a pass in general for that stance. Because at the end of the day. He's right. If you win they can't deny you sure, it might be more of a Jon Fitch approach to the title. But there's some truth to that guys. Are they going to wait longer shore? He admitted his much. Yeah. But if they're okay with that, I say, it's okay. I'm actually pretty pretty pretty lenient on that. Well, give him a pass. I'll give him a pass on posts fight. I mean, I'd rather him say something host fight. But I'll give him a pass because I've seen others. Do it. This is the first time I've ever seen someone do pre fight. And so my answer would be to that the thousands of others that have fought have not had a problem with speaking about their opponent. Why is he so caught up in that? What what is it about it that that I guess he prefers there? I mean, there may even be an answer to that. You see what I'm saying? But he seemed like just shut down anything that had to do with with the ANSI. And I I don't see I'll even play devil's advocate to that. I think you're right. I think no one's. We haven't seen that post by in his words. But I think we've seen that post-flight across the board. Now say this we've seen the vanilla answer. Oh, yeah. Sure. They use greater me. I'm worried about me, I'm more. So I guess what? I would ask is would you guys rather have that answer for the hundred they just playing devil's advocate here there, would you rather have that answer for one hundred timer a guy go? No. I'm not talking about him. I'm talking about meat and a little bit of attitude to it. It's thing when she did, you know here posts up pretty Bree. Because because because they got the generic it was an attitude. Yeah. He seemed to have some sort of a psychological bigger. Maybe you're or I don't know maybe even back to wrestling it does it does because he intimate Mexico. Intimate messages. Maybe it was me. Maybe I was bound to hear for the first time. And this was that's what I find interesting. I give him a pass for our show get, but knowing that you're going to get to a level where you may be. You've seen situations where people were on the dais. Yeah. Their opponent, right? Across from them. You see when you're at a UFC. And right when the music starts, what do you see the co main in the main event, and they're talking about each other. If you know, you're going to have to do it eventually, very sure you'd better start working on it now because there's no way you're gonna tell the brass that. And they're going to say, okay, you go ahead and do that while everybody else has to I would say if you know, it's common, then you'd better start practicing it or something if if it is like a psychological thing. Yeah. All right. Well, again, I mean, I did like to get to know him that was kind of cool. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks to Greg Gillespie for his time. And thanks to me should take for her time. She's going to be off the single or possibly two years. But she promised she'd come back before she leaves. He's talking about the spring of two thousand hell, I think she said March or April of two thousand nineteen so we'll we'll give her about seven eight weeks. And then say, hey, one more time for all time sake. Get in here Measham and co host one more episode with us and should have asked you this during the show, but we ran out of time. But just to confirm. I'm pretty sure of her answer. She's going to still do tonight. Josh can you little bit more about that? Right. I think she's going to get the hardware, and she's willing to do the four AM wake up time to keep keep things going. Josh actually stepped out for a seconds. Oh, it's Gabby holding down right now. Okay. Gabby to know the answer for that. I'm pretty sure she's staying with us. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That he's walking back, and I'll I'll make sure he gives you Zach correct facts right now, we got him where do you go? He ends the bathroom for the fifteenth time tonight. So. Did he go with the sports pages? You drop a deuce. Yeah. How long have you gone? He's gone like twenty minutes. I think the finish up. My bladder, man. This is my own AP throwing me under the bus. You ready didn't on MMA tonight. And now you're going to jump on. For using the restroom. One hundred percent. Where the loss to me bag on me. So. Our? I'm so very sorry. It's time. I'll just go in my past. I won't even go to the bench, and I won't even step out. I'll just soil myself. So I have to enquiry goes joshing God cabbie drama of it. Gabby with jiffy pop and on the way out. Here's the thing. He's got a lot of problems because I don't care that. He went to the bathroom. Have a good time. Do whatever you gotta do. But they threw a question to you on the air, and you weren't here because you didn't tell them you went to the bathroom or figured you could step in for me. I don't know everything. Josh. That's true. Let's keep your hosts. Let's say this clip and use it to make our case that Sirius XM needs to issue colostomy bags. Absolutely. Sirius XM cloth. Josh. So the question was he plans on still doing him tonight? Right from Singapore. I sure hope so I mean the time zone. It would it would be a morning show for her out there. So, you know, hope hopefully it all works out because I mean, honestly, I heard she's interested in doing that. Yeah. I mean. Yeah. I sure hope it works out and not just saying this because because I work with her and everything, but she knows she's like one of the best people that I've ever worked within. It's truly been a pleasure. So I share hope that that she can continue moving over there if not we'll just have to somehow get her back here. I don't know sabotage a job or something because it's been a pleasure working with her. Yeah. No doubt. All right. John mcduffie, by the way. We'll be joining us in about ten minutes. But I wanna keep going through. Oh, all right. Go says it's time for the phone. Call is do that junkie hotline? Who do we have? From local dog about the what's up, Mark. How you Marco? Wall. Have you ever? Have you already done ESPN, plus? Oh, man. I got stick in the beginning of the month. And I go to five hundred. Hey. Kaminsky. He he doesn't get them up. And so why should I care about here and all the guys from Buffy quieter? But we don't the ESPN Judicial Watch the that they put on hold in his fine. You know, because that's the real Trump him make us feel otherwise. To pay whatever like Dennis will. Off him to all. Only five is Marco Marco Marco, why is your call? So terrible. But no, no, not not the content. I like what you're saying about these, Leslie we're on the same side. I'm talking about the quality of the of the phone call like sounds, really muffled. Are you on speaker pillowcase over your head? Well, what's going on? Do figure. Can you hear me better night better? Yeah. Okay. So. Go through the fire this weekend. I was thinking about. Super size and a champion missiles champion of old the Bill holders title to two different weightless titles. Hop people moving out from the wake us for every week, UK everywhere. So do see just be with some woke that would be the way corner from wake you live way. He gave fleet lie way to welcome. Winston. And Amanda went from with the way you speak in the lower weight class. A winning. Now, we've got the open to ancient here. You know, we got the got the wake let's coming down. But I don't see that. As wanna hold crew because who's it going to be the one planning sky by finite. I've been that plywood is Woodrow everybody out of dealer shou. I mean fantastic Kreider. But I Don concern, I know that when I worked for him. I if I'm a better, man. Consider this weekend. Man. All right. I saw so who'd on ESPN, and he looked confident he brought up some very interesting points, you know, in terms of this fight. And I I think he's saying the same thing. What's rehydrating going to be like, and let's not forget the guy. Remember, I referenced I think it was on our video that we did guys the other day yesterday reference TJ has been knocked out. And if you recall, it was from a guy who mostly we know as a flyweight now, he's been abandoned weight of last few years, but. It. I think skill versus skill. I think a lot of people anybody that has is backing dillashaw more power to you. I hear exactly what you're saying because dealers size the beast. But there's that one intangible of the way cut. We don't know how he's gonna responded because he's never done it before he has told us. I've always been a lighter weight bantamweight. That's true. And the only reason. The only reason that that can you guys you that Josh on your end. Yes. Okay. The only reason now I forgot. Now, I forgot I was gonna say, oh, the only reason he got an sweepstakes is because he was gonna fight Cody Garbrandt could garment couldn't go. And then he thought you know, what before this Stoorikhel record breaking or record tying. Can't remember the fence title defence by Dimitrios Johnson. He wanted to be the guy to up end that and at the time being into Mijas Johnson. Didn't mean you just beat the flyweight champion. It means you are beating the current pound for pound champion. Now. Of course that went away and pseudo made history by by defeating Dmitri's Johnson. And all that. But it seemed like I guess dillashaw felt like that was still something he wanted to pursue. But I don't believe that that was ever his intent when he was abandoned we check because one thing isn't done is cleared out his division. It just so happened that he got that fire lit under all when it was, you know, D J dillashaw talk. And then now, I became so hudo talk. And and the champ wearing the champ champ. So we'll see but agree with Marco. And I think we've. All said it the one big intangible is the way cut. All right. A couple of announcements here. Edson bar Bosa will be facing just engaging. All right. Did you do it? Justin. Sorry. It's Barbosa will facing just engaging at UC on ESPN plus six in Nashville. Hey, I didn't even know that we're going to Nashville MP that's one hell of a fight wait to see that one that one. That's a good one today. And then speaking of Nashville guys Anthony is moves up to one seventy two face. A Stephen Thompson stylistically, I love the matchup and Dan pointed out that that's a camp. That's actually had some good success. Preparing for Stephen Thompson. The thing is I've always felt like pedestals a little bit of an undersized lightweight and now big going up to welterweight. Luckily is not going up against some bruiser that's going to be tossing them all over the octagon and making them pay for that extra extra pounds. He doesn't carry. That's not really Stephen Thompsons forte. That's not really the way that you know, approaches these fights. So I think we're going to be in for. Very exciting matchup, and that's one hell of it wants to punch to announce for UFC Guana Nashville that I'm excited for the Barbosa gates, you one more lake kicks baby. Saronic turning was the most leeway lion division, or in the US say, and then lightweight leaders gauging Barbosa there. I will say I'm a little I'll get more excited when it gets to fight week for adults. Don't see why Pat is his moving up there. He's got a underrated counter right hand himself about I don't know if it's going to be the Woodley counter right hand to keep them away or the reach. But we'll see I'm sure it'd be much more excited once fight we comes for that one. Yup. I think the only thing I could think of Dan is he may just have wanted to avoid another loss at lightweight. It's like you can play with a little bit of the the call any. Yeah, they call it house money when you move up knowing, hey, look, what look what I just did. But if you lose what would you want the smaller guy lost? So that you know, and and and the fact that maybe in so much of his teammates preparations for a Stephen Thompson. They just felt like you know, what if? If only you were Anthony Pettus, you know, we could out, you know, maybe striking this sort of fashion or whatever. Now pedestals a chance to shine. Now. I know a lot of you that are close to the Nashville Tennessee area are going. Hey, big mouth, tell us when it is. Okay. So now that we know the UC's going to Nashville it's on March twenty third and again, they have pets. I Thompson Barbosa versus gay tea and get this Curtis blades versus Justin Willis nice. Nice. Yeah. Nice. One two three punch March twenty third in national. All right. Let's take a quick break. You're listening to enemy junkie radio on fight nation. Chelny three stay close. We'll be right back. Familiar? Gemologist matrix full person. I gotta make comed- for eight forty years. She don't forty days and the MAC couple nights. So the the only thing that I get an older available. Let her know her. I thought I following. So I up coupling, Luke, they help to date thing. So right. Not my only mount like nicely. But. Might call at my call him on pretty so I get paid to say things in this cool voice. And they get paid to be lame. Here are gorgeous Jordan goes. All right now that was the voice of Gilbert burns who was a guest of ours here on MA junkie radio this past week. And like, you stated. Hey, it's polite. But it is a call out. I want to take on John mcdevitt. So guess who got a of me this past weekend, the vol-? Yup. Well, his people. But yes, basically threw him. Hey, I heard I heard what was said. And I wanna come on the show. And frankly, I said, let's let's make it organic. I don't wanna know what you think of it now toes on the show and joining us now on the hotline is John mcdevitt. See what's up, John? How you doing? I'm doing great. How you guys doing? Good my man, happy new year. I think I'm gonna say that till midnight tonight. And then after the halfway through January, I'm gonna stop saying. So you're probably my last happy new year. And it's always great to talk to you. It's too bad. We only got to talk to you a couple times in two thousand eighteen because you only fought once but. It sounds like your ears were ringing because I was told people if people told me that you wanted to come on the show, and maybe talk a little bit odd. Gilbert burns. If the shit. I will. Thank you have a few hoping it. Yeah. So basically. Yeah. What? So once once a phone book good, a goodly, Durance callers know, I found a very interesting. You don't have to end the day followed by giving the fines excitement. So he called me out. I'm not a guy. I'm not a guy. He calls fighters for in the one five division at the site kart division. So once I heard news about him. And I need that also know that he he bought the one of my fellow Canadian Lille bang. So founded a pretty interested in much of the he goes out there. He is giving the fighting plight. And I think it'll be a great style much of especially in Philadelphia where it's going to be the first time UFC will appear and on the ESPN put. Look at you. You already know what car? Do you wanna fight him on? Yeah. Well, the fully the Philadelphia car, that's the one that he he that's the one that I that. He also called me out on do you want to be fighting? I'm ryan. All right. So you were feeling the call out and the location. Yeah. That makes sense. Why not give it give it a he's not he's on a wind? She is a very dangerous opponent. And if he great much of the fun. And even though he was very respectful, he didn't talk shit or nothing like that a lot of fighters. Sometimes take the call out regardless of how it is. Sometimes they take it personal hot. What would you think of the call out? And and is it just too late lightweights competing or did it become in any way, personal just because he mentioned your name? What did the, of course, he's personally it is. It is knee. He called my name out. I very Bush. I think very personal. But also in the NFC were refiners. That's what we do. Well to give the find the trend that this is that's a job and and. You know, like I said, I'm not gonna call. You know, you don't you don't you don't need to talk shit. I disappoint in a career. You know, I'm a veteran. He's I believe that the, you know, when it comes to the Canadian market, not many studying fighters and a beat a fight it. So I think I'm you know, I really wanna been by the enemy community, but to to kind of that so much and and get the get the friends behind me. Yeah. I'll tell you what you have. No. I here's what I'm trying to say. It's not a big deal that you feel that way. I think back to third grade or something if it maybe guys can relate if they were if we were playing dodge ball and it was to team captains, and they all right. You choose. And you're just stand there like a mobile like the other guys hands in pockets. And then they go goes the guy goes down. Then another guy goes mic Desi goes burns. You're taking it personal that you're not one of the ones those shows like your your third down the line. They finally gonna go George like, you're walking them, go home. Thanks. But even that can be taken personal. You know, like why wasn't? I chose him. I why did he go before me? So yeah, you know, what as respectful as it was the minute. He did say his name a lot of people just take that personal. But you know, what that's part of the fight build up. And like John mcdevitt said they get the settle it. They get to compete. Punching. You know, what I used to do when I got picked blast. What this is my tip for everyone when you get up and walk walk with a limp that way most people go, oh, it's like a bad leg, imagine Kelvin Gasol. And that's probably what he felt like for that whole season. Would he was chosen last on this season of the ultimate fighter? Magin the chip. He carried on his shoulder, although he wasn't very public with it. And now look at him. He won that season. He was a pretty successful. Well, tweet a lot of people forget he took tyrant would lead to a split decision. The current you'll see welterweight champ. And now he's fighting Robert Whitaker for the middleweight title. Now. Of course, I believe that chip's gone, and he's proven he's a quality fighter. But I'm telling you man us humans. Oh, anything like that can just rile us up. So, but but but you know, I like John's approach, man. This guy's a veteran. He's been doing it for a long time. John as sixteen wins in his career with nine knockouts Gilbert has fourteen wins in his career with five knockouts. So both of you have won three of your last four, John. So you're both carrying some momentum. And you like the location. It sounds like you're healthy. And ready to start a fight camping and fight in about two months. That's yeah. Exactly. I'm I dedicated my whole martial-arts I've been training. I never had a never I don't come from a fighting families. So in all these behind my ups and downs. But I feel I'm the best. And i'm. I am very happy that that someone out there had the boss called me up. So, and I respect I respect all fight his maybe business, and it's about the fella, but entertainment and exciting the funk, and everyone knows my style is no there's little boring fights John the book. There you go. All right. Dan, tom. What do you have for John mcdevitt? See? Hey, john. Obviously, you know, what we talked about the matchup and whatnot. But I'm just more curious between matchups you know. We haven't seen you since to lie. What do you usually do? Are you a guy that needs a regiment? I noticed a lot of fighters are just, you know, human beings in general and wired the same way that some people just need regiment when they don't have a fighter training camp. Are you the same way? And what do you do John? Why should I mean, my I'm not she'd been very busy. I I've been working on my on myself personal development been working on my busy from the sides. I have invented that. I'm not familiar, and I mean training is part of my. But just for me it's like oxygen. You know, I don't really need a regimen. I need I just need. A I need a need to focus on a on a target. And once I have a goal set, and and everything else sticks scores. So this is why you know what I mean, meet cleaning and fighting. It's all the but having the right game plan having feted. Both. I hear I hear you there, John. But as far as the business goes, you mentioned that just curious is this something is this something brand new something you can talk about something you have a plan for after fighting. I'm a mole is a mole is working. I'm always know trying to be smart with with my platform in the in the UFC. And and with my name's here. I live in Montreal. I'm based out of much of I traveled to Milwaukee, I associate associate myself with with the sports right now, I'm training with sports and do Kuh bits and hearing Lavalle, I'm developing my own gym developing have a older brother have a arrest of supper club, a big Ella vow. You know, I'm just trying to you know, Renton season is, you know, trying to be as a smart businessman, give back to my community and to to especially you know, because to my family is the gym currently open or it's being built. No, I'm still working us still looking bug us. What will the gym be whether it be like a gym for families for kids to jitsu and women's cardio kickboxing. Or is it in the gym? Or what's what's the gym going to be like? Right now, my goal is to something that I have my other my other fashion discovered his gun of to help other people. So it's more. It's going to be more intimate one on one by the session in my whole is gonna be I'm gonna start out small in in in my whole, I'm gonna great nice Jimmy the basements with people can come and in the acting to individual personal development to fitness through nutrition through health, everything that I kind of learned to martial arts and fighting, and what you would, you know, having mentally, you know, developing good, you know, having good devoted with other professional people knowing them attrition willed and in the mental strength coach. You know, I worked with Bryan came up mental performance. Coach you worked with a lot of, you know, Jason linked with with the V buffer. Also, my mental nutrition Ben Hoffman who helped me with. Wait, cutting and how to eat properly and how to be more functional. I mean at the end of the day. It's all about might might disgruntled the to going up to feel my field. My my. Gonna say to fulfill my my soul in, you know, all the love, and you know, falling in love with the with the with the lifestyle of nutrition, fitness and healthy lifestyle. You know with the active life. Got to. All right goes. Would you have for John mcdevitt, John? I like how you've looked in your last couple of fights. But what I'm trying to figure out is to you was that were those things that just kind of started to click for you. Or was it almost like a rebirth of yourself? I truly believe I think every you know in as an artist as an entertainer, sometimes we go to brought, you know. So I was I guess I was I I don't wanna say the wrong thing. They just I guess I needed a response to revive my my motivation, money's pollution, and I needed a different outlook. So this why in the five and never really traveled. I always tried to stay in my bubble in my comfort zone, and by me, traveling and and worked with other coaches and working in discovering new skills and adding new tools to my arsenal. Kind of the it gave me a rebirth. You know, a different style. You know, if you watch my might last flights, you'll see new of Aleutian of jumping Desi. I mean, I'm not I'm I'm gonna come fully by two. I can spend the bucket. I can laid the think the guy at the. Offense. They beat them. I will agree on that. In the last two years man things that buttoned up really really nice with your striking. And you're you're a lot more daring your yesterday. Actually, you're actually more strategical as he became more daring. And I think it's because you're very efficient with your striking and your defense has become a lot better. So it's been noticeable for sure man. And I think Gilbert Murray is a quality matchup like I said you both have won three year of your past for. So I like, it the fact that you agree with it, man. This is great. It all happened on the junkie radio show. That's why you guys. That's why you know, you guys are, you know, I appreciate you guys. You guys always been the you guys. Always give me the time up to twenty two to express myself right on my man. All right. Well, listen, thanks for the time as always, and hopefully, the matchmakers are listening, and hopefully they can book this and make it happen Philadelphia. At the end of March, we really appreciate it. I know that either way you're going to get something pretty soon, and we'll be talking about it when you're campus over and when fight fight week is upon us. So we'll talk to you probably in a couple of months. Sounds good. How the biggest? All right. Take care, John. We'll see you. All right. I wanna give a shout out to the chat room punch drunk. Ryan mcguire. Mike Gonzalez DJ Quist five sixty two and big thanks to Mitch may burger for making the John mcdevitt Z interview happen. All right. I'm a little panicked here. Why it goes on that end just the beeping that we're hearing I San we're trying to all right? All right trying to figure out what's going on. It the Vegas. Golden Knights are playing tonight. Yeah, they are. Yeah. What's the score Kate zero two to nothing? Why is everyone cheering that? They bet against the Vegas Golden Knights. I thought that we were winning basketball. Probably oh, that's what they're cheering for. All. Right. Couple of action though, the Lakers play tonight on the Lakers have not been doing good as of late to the point. Where Luke Walton is job might mean in jeopardy now granted they're superstars out. Lebron James and with that comes twenty. Let's take a quick break. Let's do that. You're listening to talk radio fight nation. Chelsea we'll be right back. They were kicked off the set of the fast and furious for being too loud, and too good-looking. Once again, here's court Georgia goes Sirius XM is giving our subscribers and opportunity to go to the Super Bowl. Simple. Fifty three in Atlanta. One grand prize winner will be a trip two tickets to the game. Plus you'll have an opportunity to serve series official law reporter for fishing rules and to enter go to siriusxm dot com slash Super Bowl and do that before January twenty third. No additional purchase is necessary. The NFL entities define the official rules have not offered or sponsored this week stakes in any way. All right solved. Our little issue there that we had before the break. Thanks for hanging in there with us. I wanna say one quick thing here. I'll EFL Z's one of those shakers and movers in the sport of mixed. Martial arts. He's got the dominance agency. Neat manages a lot of fighters. He was quick to come out with a tweet that says not so fast Barbosa. Engage. It's not official and he's also saying especially not in Tennessee. So let's keep an eye on that either way we know the UC's Tennessee that's official and maybe the other match official Thomson versus Pettus will versus. Millon sign that Millon Curtis blades, though, sound like they're official. So we'll see keep an eye on 'em joke for that. And we'll definitely keep you posted. All right. So if you wanna call in we have a few minutes before we bounce, but we got a couple of issues that we still got a clean up, but that number's eight seven seven fight ninety three eight seven seven bite ninety three. You can connect with us where online for about another fifteen minutes. In the meantime, we should do our daily debate and the guys of cooked up another good one. Y'all already to go. Do this Stu it we go which men's fighter guys is the most likely to win his first hashtag, you have title in two thousand nineteen choices are Israel on you. Kevin Gasol, Dustin poi- and Comorros month. So basically have a middleweight to middleweights lightweight and welterweight. Gophers go for me, it's between the two middleweights to other divisions. They've had their king. Granted we got a new one with v. But I don't know if he's going to be letting go that anytime soon. Middleweights? I think it's gonna come down to them. And I just feel like even going base out. Silly even going back to the tough season. It just felt like Kelvin always had this look on his face. Like, I know I got this always seem to step ahead and everything he's got this confidence swag about feel like it's going to happen. My pick Kelvin Gasol. How about you? How about you? It's tough. I I wanna go Kelvin gasoline because I feel like if you're gonna say Israel to sign you have to say Kelvin gasoline. He's the guy in front of his route assign. Yeah, he's the more proven fighter overall. I think that's fair to say. But at the same time, I'm actually going to go with Israel out of Sonya. I think I think it's tough. I could see us Manhattan his day. Favorite fighter to watch sign me up. I'll be there to watch him, but lightweight is. So confusing right now. I don't even want to touch it with a ten foot pole regards to title, talk, but Israel to sign. Yeah. I do believe not just the hype breakthrough fighter yada ya stylistically. I feel like he is one of the better cases, we've seen longer switched hands fighters were striking specialist. Stephen Thompson, be able to get the better of Robert Whitaker. And and Robert Whitaker has had a lot of south pause who can wrestle. I Yale Romero kinda get ready for gasoline. So I'll go Izzy. All right. Won't lose. Yeah. Yeah. But I think he's a tough match-up for Woodley to say that. Yeah. And so. Okay. I'm playing the. Dicing up question. All right, which is the most likely to win the title in two thousand seat, Robert Whitaker. If he gets past Gasol, which I know gas a live dog have you noticed he gets injured a lot, and we have these long spells before fights. Again. I just don't know. If oughta Sonya could very well win is just he may not be the dance partner in two thousand eighteen because jock raise also kind of taken a step back. But you know, he's part of the equation of winning it injures. I'm just saying because he doesn't have the fight lined up on pushing him off to the side gas. So now, it's a race between Gasol because is behind Ferguson. He's behind McGregor the rematch again, you know, or anything else that might happen in that division. And he starts fight somebody to get to that. And it's such a division. Plus again, the guy at the top of the undefeated. So my little basin come are. Who's mon- not to say that that's going to be my pick on March second. Thirty five. But I just think he's the most likely to win the title in two thousand eighteen can I throw a mini debate within the big debate ass. I love the love the four who do you think if they all wanna title, who do you think would rain the longest? Israel out of that would be my pick to he looks picking Kelvin. I reminds me a little bit of Jones and a little bit of Anderson, and those guys have arranged that what you do man, I wanna say listen. But then I feel like I go Rothe men in the beginning. If he's such a tough match-up that he's going to hold that title for a long time. So I'll go is. Well, yeah. All right, three thousand two hundred eighty seven of you voted, I guess what they all agreed with Dan, Tom fifty three percent of these guys went with Israel out of Sonya in second place was gasoline goes choice. My choice came in third which was Kamara was one and dust Emporia. He came in at nine percent. I don't think against us. And I think that he's a little bit further back Ted van, and it's a tough division. Now as many of you probably already pointed out, what about Ferguson's, technically, Ferguson. This was caught my uncle Matt e from our editorial, he's technically Benetton and the question was his first title. He won the title the interim. Title when he defeated Kevin Lee, the October of two thousand seventeen so has been more than a year. Can you believe that? Wow. Yeah. All right. It's our daily debate. Brought to you by the video. So why is there a problem with gates versus ED's in Barbados of did Ali get any more specific than that? Now. I was just a tweet right there. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll have to keep an eye on that one. Holly home saying that cyborg deserves a rematch with Amanda, new news. However, she wants newness after you've see thirty five now, she's the opposite of Greg organised. She not only is well shouldn't say this. She's not talking about Asmat. She's bipolar. But I because obviously she's thinking not only fighting aspirin that I'm gonna beat her. And after I beat I wanna fight a minute is after she bites. Chris I walk. I don't see a big problem with that. Because I don't think she's overlooking her opponent looking to the future everybody does it right now to see if she were continuously talking about the matchup, and this now, it seems like okay, you're wasting time. Here you have somebody in front of you. I think she's just kind of planning the seat letting people know this is what I would like to do with my career versus them telling you, this is what you're going to do with your career. Right. I think it all comes from. You know, what the people in history that have done it, and it's blown up in their face. They just had to put up with the old. I told you so you overlooked your opponent, this that or whatever. And if you're not willing to live with those consequences, then guess what? Yeah. You're more than likely. Willing to defer. The it's going to happen in the NFL this week. Tom Brady is gonna be asked. Hey, man. Who do you want to face? The Rams of the saints verse. We got the cans in front of us got to compete with them, and blah, blah, blah. And you go down the fifty three man roster and all the coaches that they have you may be lucky. If somebody goes, I really want breeze in the Super Bowl. It's it's just not gonna happen. A lot comes with that that pressure and a lot of people just don't wanna risk. What about if you just run back? I mean, assuming Holly home beats Aspen lead why not just run back home cyborg again. I mean, Holly definitely arguably other than the newness, right? I think she gave cyborg the toughest fighter her career run. That back win gets news. Catlin bear. In the meantime, give a man to time. You know, that might work marriage. I'm, hey, what was this is where I become up at what was with Amanda Nunez, saying no more one forty five. She struggling to get in our jeans that kind of scoop it, right? So what she's trying to say she put on a few pounds to get the one forty five. And now she can't get into one thirty five genes. And so that's why she doesn't want to go back to one forty five. But that was it. I didn't read into people started commenting is at the end of the division. History's been made, blah, blah, blah, and Scott money asking about more close. Yeah. I think I read into it too much. I thought it was just a funny funny post to touch on Josh's point though. And this is just the way I think there's no way in hell. I would fight Chris cyborg unless a belt was on the line. If you tell me I have to fight her. And if I win I don't get nothing for it. I would lose my mind. That's a fair point. I agree. That is a scary woman, man. All them. What do you do? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know, man. And I I don't know how know cyborg at I was very respectful, but within a couple of days, she was already kind of pining for that rematch a little bit. It's something about waking up the next day. And everyone not calling you or at least acknowledging the champ. That's gotta be pretty difficult for some people. I know I'm a little bit of an ego maniac. So I had that title. And now the sudden you're not calling me that I'd be like hi to get it back. Others just aren't as consumed than they could care less. Do you? Do you like when? In the air. I think that you and I were were born in once you win a title, you just kind of keep that name champ. Right. It's like if you were to run into Brock Obama, you would still call Mr President, you go way, you're slow. Right. So there's been a lot of times where Randy couture comes in here. We'll talk champ. Yeah. I think once you have it you keep it. But I know what you're talking about. But I think the newer generation doesn't really do that. Like it just went away. Right. Kind of more of an old school reference that I would do for everyone up until maybe the McGregor Rhonda era. And I think a lot of it also has to do with your age and correlation with a lot of those athletes. Like, I'd still probably do it for BJ Penn George Saint Pierre. Towards some of the names you name. But I don't know. I, you know, I I would probably do it as part of my job, but just out in the open with some of the others. I don't know. That would do. What's funny trying to tell you? There's a call. What I did this, right? When you said BJ Penn, and it looked like I was just doing BJ panels that leave hanging shock of science that we got who do we got who's on the hotline heaven from Chicago? So Kevin how you doing? What's up guys? You know, what I wanna talk about with us deep Amyot chits? Are they gonna give this two-day rematch? Or what I mean, Danny crummy? He's not going to get their breakfast you to sound like it. And you're gonna fight is no one else seeping meal. The fight to make he's he's not gonna retire by March twentieth. That's a load of bull crap. You just saying that to leverage for more money in you know, trying to time as they set a date deadline. So what you have see kinda Ono don't retire. We want you back. He needs to give them that rematch. Steep abo chits earned it. You'll see disrespecting them. Not even given the fight. He tried to get that. Jerry Lewis flight. Here lose turn it down. I don't know what to do with me otiose mandates most funded heavyweight titles. This is total bullshit, but they need to get there. Right. Give him the rematch because he's earned it. What do you guys think? Okay. So we've left out of the equation then. Yes, I agree. It should be. And I think even DC said that so so the question I think you can count on seeing DC defend against Email. Now, what it doesn't look like is that it'll happen before his his deadline of March. Twentieth. Believe because the last pay per view that's going up. I mean, we already have you have to thirty four set out there with Whittaker and Gasol, and we have UC 235 set with John Jones versus Anthony Smith antiroom would levers Comorros month. So you're not gonna put these on that one day that car is definitely too soon. So now, you're looking at April, and I guess he would probably break his self imposed deadline to fight meal that if Leslie can't go, and if they can go, then I think DC will just take on lesser, and then sail off into the sunset your hardcore. Now that said if him and Lessner sold well, also say if they sold two million. That's even more reason to leave but sees a businessman to and he notices these things I you know, what it's it's a simple as Kevin said, there's no one else Curtis blades had a good shot until in Ghana derailed him. So there's really no one else that stands clear Louis derail Volkov DC took out Lewis and gone into out waits, and nobody else has really really guess created that kind of traction. Feta's over there at bell tower. He's the kind of name where you just sign them a title shot and battalion Minakov was number three in the USA today. Sports and junkie rankings and undefeated is former bell tower heavyweight champ. He's been gone for so long from the major organization. He did go three outside belt or he's just not a needle mover. So you couldn't just sign them. Even though he's with you. Couldn't assign them in walk them into what title shot. So what Kevin saying is accurate? The only way things fall apart is if Jones and cormier run each other and run into each other at an eye club shit goes down. And then all of a sudden will make a call Dana, white and say this just has to happen. It will happen how we gonna get John at a nightclub Georgia. That's true. That's tough part. Come on. All right. I think we can say that's our show for today. Thanks, kevin. By the way for the call. And stay tuned, man. I expect ADC announcement on many fronts, actually, you see that picture tickle Kobe Bryant now cool. I think the big and the entertainment business is coming for him. Dan, you might have asked him something awhile back ago that you could tell something there. How do good morning out Roker? Yeah. Roker, but I hit a nerve you could tell he was laughing laughing at all. But he had something. There was something. I could see DC being the next hour. Roker? Do our workers. Gotta be tired of those Macy's thanksgiving parade. Like, he looks like he is one off comment from just going on like a shanking spree and the crowd when every time they they cut to them, right? Yeah. These jobless gotta team. We know. All right, folks. We are out of here. I'll leave you with couple Twitter. 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UFC Vegas 23 Preview Show

The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani

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UFC Vegas 23 Preview Show

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Listen we're here to talk about this event with all of you guys. If you got questions you got thoughts. There's a fight that sticks out to you. that's not getting enough love. We'll give us a love right here on program but here we go ak middleweight division. Once again at the top of the market it will be again next saturday as well but we were supposed to be. Marvin batori versus darren till darren till breaks his collarbone barn. Vittori smells some tomfoolery. There it's kind of silly but here we are kevin. Han does what kevin on does is what he's banned from onto the next one because he steps on short notice at every opportunity gets a second event spot in what three weeks. Now this is crazy. Back-to-back fight night made events for kevin. Harlan your thoughts on this middleweight. Matchup on abc tomorrow afternoon. Yeah pollens tying the Tying the record for quickest turnaround in a ufc main event of course davison figuring out just did it. So he had the record for the pay per view main events. He just did it with the the outspread fight in the brandon marino fight. You'll see to see to six pretty impressive. Pretty crazy do. And i'm just imagining people who turn into that first. Abc events who maybe like not that familiar with and saw kevin harlan. Like oh cool and then like the kind of got into it like once the next event and then now they're tuning into the espn. Excuse me now may be seen this guy event and it's i hope not like us than they get Got hooked on us all and fighting like every week or every month. So you'd be like we did. I created the end of at the end of twenty twenty. Which was fun but you know again. I don't people up kevin holland. But it's like he can't fight all the time he can't. I mean he wants to but create a tough tough president for himself. But yeah it's a cool main event It's a cool replacement. Main event for i would seem darren telemark story but a holland already looking to surpass appears from last year which is which is fun to watch jose we saw. We've seen more of a subdue subdued kevin holland heading into this fight. You know she. She's done some media hasn't really talked a ton of trash even though he's been talking trash about marvin vittori for months and months and months pretty much every single interview with over the last year and a half. He's mentioned marin vittori at how much she wanted to fight him. But even the faceoff vittori was very animated saying some stuff. Kevin hodges rubbing together not a word to be said. What are your thoughts on. The approaches of these two gentlemen on the short notice fight especially kevin harlan. Who normally likes to talk and hasn't really done a whole lot of talking this week. the market-oriented. Being all animated in kind of hyped up in hyper his emotions just boiling over. Doesn't surprise me. I've said i've been saying this. I'm pretty much every show we do on the site that marvin toys probably the most emotional middleweight out. There in terms imposed hiding his emotions and stuff. Like i said a million times. He was like screaming at the top of his car. World fell out in jacksonville. And then sean shelby approach him cautiously when call. Roberston struggled with his weight cut when they booked the rematch. Because he didn't know marvan tori was gonna do the kevin holland thing. It should surprise me. I the more i thought about it. I'm like this probably makes it makes sense in my mind because he's been talking and trying to pick a fight with marvin toy for a long time now that he has the fight. What else is there say. Got the fight. He got what he wanted. The derek brunson one. You talked a lot about derek brunson. And he was talking all that grease inist. And here's acting kind of funny at all. But that's because that's the longest we've seen kevin holland on the shelf between fights in months so he probably had so much time to think about derek brunson. He got real board he finally got in front of him and he was. He just wanted to get it all out. There didn't really have time between his last. Few fights ak said the shortest time which he made events for non pay per view. So he's in there to fight. He got the fight he wanted. What else is there. Say he's gonna do a lot of talking on the fight But maybe didn't always words still ringing his mind about the whole mental breakdown and this and that didn't interview with our own day. Marin that he you know he gave Props brunson talked a little. Bit of greediness about victoria but not as much as He has with you. So it's and i but then the more i thought about it more while dot. It doesn't really surprise me whatsoever. Casey jose brown next point. Because when i talked to kevin before the derek brunson fight in the longest layoff he'd had in a long time a lot of time to stu. After fighting five times last year. He's fighting almost monthly after the may fight. What do you think about this like. Do you think this makes kevin holland a little more dangerous now that he's kind of back to what we saw in twenty twenty with him fighting every few weeks a month. You know. this isn't like a long training camp. He just kind of gets up does what he does gets in the cage and fights the ufc a favor filling this main event gap spot. What are your thoughts. This make kevin han a little more dangerous now that he's back to his old self from last year as opposed to having a full training camp for despite this is. This is quickest turnaround coming off a loss. It could be. We know that okay because most of all those quick turnarounds were coming off a wins. This is the more dangerous not really. I mean i'm kinda. I'm kinda bummed. He was less talkative. You know like. I don't know it was like that's what that's what we'd like. Kevin harlan for you know. That's why he didn't get in the u. of c. Now that's why he's a star because he is that big mouth. I i really think it doesn't. It won't play won't want me anything I think as long as he has no injuries. Or maybe or even over over. Over maybe his body as overtrained from the back to back fight camps that could be a bad thing or it could be a good thing for him not really sure Only he knows to be honest in is really just pure speculation casey. I'm glad i'm glad he's finally taking his career seriously. Casey yeah that's what i that's what i saw today at the way ends with him. Not talking twenty. Seven fights into his pro career. Eleven fights into uc career. Now now we will finally see this kevin holland so thank goodness. That's all. I'm gonna tired of all the talking. Casey of all the chatter. That's what we need that. None of the biggest. The biggest stars in the sports talk is just know we just get in there and punch silence for my fighters compose jose with martin. Vittori with the hall and factor. Especially with what. He's done the last year he's i don't know if we're calling them the a side here but most people since his i was booked. Everyone's kind of talked about kevin. Harlan rain album are matori on foreign. Rose coming up that big winning jacker manson obviously a fight with. Darren tell what done what been huge for him. You get a guy like darren telling your resume. Despite his record has been in the ufc kind of like jed talk between the length yesterday tells a big name got a big following brings eyeballs. No doubt about that. A win over. Tell what have been huge for vittori puts them in a good position. What does a win over. Kevin holland do from arbitrary. Now just just kind of keep him where he's at right now does it. Maybe set him up for a potential darren tail once he recovers from the collarbone injury. Like what is a win over kevin. Han do for matori right now. Didn't uc marva tories media scrum. He's the number one contender by default. According to him so apparently a win over kevin holland gets him a title shot in rematch consumer outside now but in all seriousness Win hate it because what that's five in a row till's hurt because obviously is ross on his camp. Saying if darren till wins next title shot no question so now that tillis hurt the sideline for bit follow cost on the sideline for bid. Derek brunson got the big win a lot. All of a sudden a lot of these top middleweights are hurt or books and moving forward so the most important thing as i say every week in all of these white classes activity especially in this time where you know you could kevin harlan. Made the most of it like he was active a lot. And now he's getting these made events tori a win over kevin holland. He's active. I can't say that with everyone else. In the middle of division and a win is win kevin holland. Yes it would be two in a row and be two loss in a row. But what does that set. it depends. Obviously if darren silk can come back by. Then i would absolutely love the darren Fighting mar montoro beat stare until after being kevin holland. I think there's a good argument that he gets tile shop. But of course robert whitaker kellen gasoline. If robert whitaker beats calvin gasoline. He's already deserved the title. Shot with a win over. Jared cannon here so maybe that sets up a vittori whitaker fight or whitaker defy inventory fights darren till on the undercard for the more tender activity and moving forward in this weight class with the most important thing regardless of like obviously years ago name value means a lot but now in this pandemic era activity is king and moving forward. That is the most important would agree with you. One hundred percent. Now we get down to the to the brass taxes. The kids say k your thoughts your pick main event. How does night end. Does it end with kevin harlan. Getting his hand raised. Or does it end with the surging. Marvin vittori getting his hand raise. oh gosh. I haven't done thorough in-depth predictions yet. I can't. I haven't stopped leaving kevin holland. Look i was one of the most critical people of all the the the chitter chatter all the the the cavity going on in the last fight. I i was bothered by. I'm not saying this performance. I'm just saying i'm ride. I did not enjoy it. And i was for the record consistent with my my view of kevin honda riding. I didn't love it. When i like all his encaged talking kind of when i first saw i'd like to more when he started winning fights and i don't know i don't know i'm just not i don't love it and i don't see anything wrong with it not biggest fan so but i still believe in his talents. I still think he's such a wild card. And like i picked against before. I don't think. I picked him to beat jeddah so and i did pick to be brunson. I'm not. I'm not turning on that. Just because of what i saw on the brunson fight obvious. He was beaten by more experienced. Better fighter. day. So i i still like his chances an auditory a lot too but i i. It's going to surprise people. I just think there's there's there's something to him. There's so much talent on any given day. I do think he's he really is a guy who he is a threat to anyone in the top. Ten middleweight and in this case it was hardee's in a site. So i think halls going to knock them out. I just. This is not an in-depth analysis. I'm just feeling this one going on a limb holland by ko. casey. I filling feeling aka fills. Actually i think Holland will bring that big mouth on fighting. I and it will make angry. Marvin matori even angrier and will use that to end. Kevin would use that to his advantage and he will counter knock them out and kevin harlan somehow will be ranked above their brunton. Come sunday very possible. Jose you rolling with kevin honda or does mar matori make it five straight marva toy makes for five straight. I like kevin harlan a fighter. I think he's a high action fighter. I don't have any problems with his talking winner loss. I'd like do you man. As long as out and funding there are just think. Martin mentor is a better fighter. And i think. He's one of the more underrated middleweights in the world. And this sounds exactly what i said in the derek brunson fight i just thought during brunson was an overall better fighter than kevin harlan. He won. I just think marvin tori is a better fighter than kevin holland martin. Tories also on massive middle use a big thick guy. he's not making way on short notice anytime soon. Kevin harlan's not even remotely a way he's a welter as casey said. He's called for him to drop to welterweight sense his first win in twenty twenty so i think marvin toys better. I think he's bigger. I think he's had all the momentum right now. He has a lot to prove. he's incredibly furious. And if yours italian as someone. Aged talian is a terrifying. So i'm going with the angry. Italian is going to be kevin harlan and move forward division. He thinks he thinks angry. Italian will be good. I think the angrier italian will be turned into a negative. So we'll have to see on saturday. I it tells the how. I'm sure you've never make her mad. Oh that's how would you. How would you never maker upset. Jose de link would be the striking or the the wrestling vittori. That will be the different. I think he's just all around is unaware holland more accurate striker then. Marvin tori one hundred percent. I think tori is harder hitter. I think he's a better grappler. Keith like training. let's forget kings may is an phenomenal jim. So he's going to have luck. Main trading partners calvin gasoline so that high pressure moving forward action fighter. Marvin toy does that. Like ten rounds a day in the gym. I distinct marvin is was in a camp preparing for danville. Yes it's a different style. Fight a completely because obviously counter striker. Kevin hart is gonna walk. Slap you in the face and talk all this trash. I think marvin is better all around outside of accuracy. I just don't think they're all fighters will kevin harlan fights. He can hit you real hard and put you down like we saw that. Would derek brunson. I can't remember a time when marvin toy was like really really just crippled inside. The octagon where he's like. Oh crap do marvin tories as darren until said. Did you see that real long instagram post. He said where he was like making fun of how he looked and everything he said. You're a slow middleweight. Who's incredibly tough. So darren tillis even aware of that. I just think all the apples earned marvin stories camp right now and i just i just think he's gonna win. I just think better all around outside of accurate striking. But i think accuracy is not enough for kevin holland on saturday. One one thing. I mean when know i am curious if holland will learn from his five around experience with brunton just like two weeks ago and in and how he's gonna how he's going to pace himself because i wonder if he i don't know if i didn't see i didn't see any of his previous interviews. But did he talk about the maybe did not pace himself right in the brunson fight like maybe he's going to get tired too soon so we started off slow or did he say anything about that. Just cares. I believe it was amazing thing. I think he was like derek. Brunson one fan. Swear yeah i just. I'm just i wonder just. These are things we don't know. I'm very curious to find out on saturday. That's what i do like. This fight is a fun fight. I just it's just a fight that you know. We were expecting curious of kevin harlan. Like i said after brunson fight. I feel like he got a lot of openings to take advantage of. That just didn't like when he would get when he would like Clinch up with brunson. Or get get like. He had opportunities for submission attempts or knees or strikes and he would duck stop it step two and he wouldn't move forward. Maybe that's in some cases saying like he didn't want to just blow his gas right away with like a bunch of these. But i felt like i'm watching the fight and i'm not as coach like i see five hundred things you could've done. You just stopped. So maybe maybe maybe he doesn't do that. I don't know i'm not. Canals can right now. Martin vittorio minus three fifty favorite. The comeback kevin harmed plus to ninety so not a lot has window as we speak. But i'm calling me. Look because i'm eating gross. Yeah we'll make it eighty one point one percent vittori. Barbara's well just listen. There's this thing plays out in for awhile. Kevin on this is the best chance. Kevin holland has to win. But i just don't know like i don't see a world where martin matori doesn't do pretty much exactly what dark brunson did like fighting kevin. Han any other way is just a horrible idea like you. Just throw him against the cage and take him down and just beat them. That way like you have an opening and i just don't know how and i know kevin holland knows. He needs to work on his defensive wrestling. And stuff like that. But you can't work on it in two weeks like you can't improve that much in like the one thing i'll give kevin holland this fight. Is that the activity is huge for him. Like he's doing a favor elle's like he's probably feels like he has very little to lose here like he just wants to fight like it's not about titles donald going up in the rankings. It's about fighting as much as possible. So this is good for kevin han so this is probably the best mindset. He could have heading into a fight with a guy like martin tori. I just don't after fighting five rounds. Two weeks ago coming back fighting a guy who has somewhat similar attributes to derek brunson like derek. Brunson has basically wrote the blueprint on how to beat them. I just don't see a world where he doesn't do very similar work. So vittori wins a decision in my eyes i think kevin will have his moments. He had his moments against against brunson second round but at the end of the day i think vittori gets it done things onto other things. Do you think vittori will fight. Like brenton. the sense that he just needs to get that w. or do you think batori goes. Oh i have to. I gotta finish this guy. Got when big and impressive because i grunted one so dominant was he was like i just need the w and i don't think vittori that same guy that same type of fighter and i think that's going to be an i think that's going to work against them in this fight. I think he's i think he'll take more chances than derek brunson did but i have a feeling he's gonna want to take this fight to the ground as often as much as possible. I mean as many times as he can get this fight to the ground and get take downs and work on against the cage and try to wear them down like i think. We're gonna see that. But i think he'll be a little more offensive especially in like hollins guard or you know trying to improve position. I don't think he's gonna be okay. Which is like sitting in the garden and trying to land the occasional strike. And you know just doing enough to make sure. The referee dozen stand him up. I think he's gonna try to be more active down there. Try to look for finishes like he's gotta look for finishes but i just feel like he's going to. He's not going to stand around and have a kickboxing match. Kevin holland as much as he can like. He's going to try to avoid that as much as possible. Like you take the path to least resistance. But he's going to be more aggressive than dark brunson. But i feel like we're gonna see something more similar but vittorio have more were violent intention. Dettori only has two knockouts in his career. So i don't know why a lot of people on twitter saying marvin bike. Tko and yeah. It's very hard to stop. Kevin hollywood with strikes. Anyone like marshmallows ever done. March is nine. Submission wins and like two or three of them are in the ufc including his debut. So marvan tori is gonna stop. It's gonna be by submission. i think so. I don't think it's going to be a tko by any means. I like even jacker. Like marvin tori shattered jacker jaw and couldn't finish. It would strike so marvin if he wins by stoppage. It'll probably by submission. Think vittori path to victory is ground game for sure to use it. yes using that size. Only fourteen percents of the eighty-one percent who picked up a tour say knockout and the nineteen percent picking holland. I guess including me are all thinking. He looks like he needs. He needs a tag. I kind of get lucky. He needs to catch him. Because it seventy four percent of the people picking holland are going cayote chaos so that's the mindset is holidays to catch them it'll be it'll be some lot will be involved as you know with respectable guy. Some luck will be involved. If if i would i would assume kevin holland's like striking accuracy and speed would maybe just like oh shit like just gets clicked once takes them back and cabinet again. Kevin just needs to bullets ford which he didn't do against brunson if he flips. Yeah and if there's one in kevin kevin holland is a guy who can create fight changing moments and it's not just creating the moment it's capitalizing on the moment to if he can do that he's he's okay. He has a chance but it just we saw. We saw it in the brunson fight. He had a chance to get that by changing moment he almost got it and then brunson took down and that was it. So we'll say it's an interesting fight here. I kind of wish like there's a little more build for a fight like this has been brewing for so long especially from holland. But we get it. I think we're going to get the kind of the best case. Scenario kind of kevin harlan heading into a fight on short notice. And just trying to go in there and play spoiler. But we'll see what happens fun. Fight but this coleman event who this is a fight. I think because balladur's got a car tonight to their featherweight fight i think is the best fight on the card between arab. Adam boards and jeremy kennedy. The best fight of the weekend in my opinion is arnold alan versus so take us. I am so excited for this fight right now. So use of the minus. One fifty favourite against arnold alan. Become back on him is at plus one thirty. Jose you love this fight for those miss between the links wax poetically called main event. Because just kicks ass man. This fight checks all my boxes. I love featherweight. Division has been historically one of my favorite. If not my favorite way classes of all time i love. I don't consider these a lot of people will say like. Oh this is the prospect prospect. I don't really consider this prospect fight at all. They're both rents fighters. They're both undefeated in the. You've seen both have what four or five wins in a row over impressive wins and i think this is the perfect time for these to defy. Arnold allen seems to be one of those guys that you could build around in the uk. Especially if darren is always on the shelf they don't really have like jacker. Manson has fallen a lot of people in europe There's no real big star. And i think allen is sneakily fighters leeann edwards of course is one of those two i think the pandemic obviously hurt him plus his opponents always falling out. It's not his fault he can't be can't catch a break. I watched your interview on allowance and he really sold me on why. This fight is awesome because a city yousef is from another part of the world. Edgier that the ucs really trying to push forward. So he beats. Arnold alan and is another undefeated nigerian pro fighter. They can really push. There's no excuse for them not to go tallies africa in some way in two thousand maybe twenty two when the world kind of calms down but all mallon's like laid it out perfectly like all the fighters he got has got the u. of c. Are gonna try and shoot on him and he really has to be a defensive minded like defensive. Striking defensive wrestling defensive grappling and. He's done well as he's undefeated and someone from the uk using defensive rap grappling as well as him is obviously an impressive because as we all know he from the uk em saray england. You're not the best wrestlers grapplers in the world But arnold allen is kind of proving that argument wrong so he's very excited to fight someone that he doesn't have to worry about shooting on him. So i think we're gonna see a style of on that with arnold alan that we haven't seen get see more of his tools so i'd have no idea who to pick him fight. 'cause i like both fighters they're both great interviews. They're both great people. And i wish this was five rounds but i do think this is the perfect homemade event for this card on. Abc checks all my boxes. High level martial-arts competition against two gentlemen. That can just beat your ass at any time. This is jose. Fight all around. Absolutely ak your thoughts on this fight because we got city usa. Who's look great. He's part of the greatest contender series fight. Ever with mike davis. That fight was ridiculous. If you've never seen that. I highly recommend you go. Watch us versus mike davis. It's insane and then we have arnold allen who quietly nine wins in a row he seven. Oh and the ufc. He is the second longest winning streak in the featherweight division behind the champion alexander. Volkov's you so this is a this is definitely not a prospect fight. This is two guys. This is a next who's gonna take that next step in a loaded division kind of fight. Your thoughts on ireland versus should use of men threw me off with that second longest because i think one eight but one of them was a catchweight bout so that you can count. And he's because he ate no will normally i would but he's what eight no so. Usa right here's nine nine okay. So he is behind but of course. Oh yes. I won't say yousef yousef foots fits the prospect mold. A little bit more like understand. Why people aren't allowed definitely. Not i don't i don't think anyone i don't understand anyone calling arnold on the prospect of this point. He's still relatively young but he's about to be nine years now nine years as a pro seven and owned the. You're not a prospect anymore. Yousef a little more so this'll be by years. I think next next week. Five years since his pro debut so sure But both guys. I mean use. It definitely feels seasoned beyond his years. He looks like someone who's been fighting for at least seven or eight years so it's a great man. I love this kind of magic. You mike we always talk about her matchmaking. Show i'm not one of those people who Shot from putting Guys were unbeaten in the afc. Against other i love that it makes a little more sense with these two are further along. This isn't like a two and a guy and or three going another to another three and okay but even then we've seen them shy away you know. We've seen them back. You know you you lose a contender. You'll lose a future contender by putting against one another. And i don't think that's the case at all. I think whoever loses some fair play. They'll probably bounce pack they they. They lost on this day on saturday. But i don't think they'll fall too far back in the rankings. I think each guy still has a super bright future ahead of them I'm leaning towards arnold alan. I know. I know jose said it's it's tough to pick absolutely. It's a coin. toss i. I don't feel strongly about this. A lean towards all down i liked. I liked what i saw. The win over nick lance melendez passes prime dominated that match ups. You should have so. Yeah lean towards allen but boy. This is one of those anything could happen. Fights clear clear fight of the night front runner. Great great choice for the culmination especially one on abc. This is a really good opportunity for these guys to shine a star making moment. Possibly it's funny because like everybody talks about the long layout that arnold. Alan has had but he has been out longer not by much longer. He's been out a week longer than our will have focus in january of two thousand twenty. But i feel like arnold alan approach at this point is is is a little different than it was when he first got into the ufc. Casey because this is a guy who was just you know. I'm in the. Afc gotta take what they could. Give me heading into that january. Would nick you supposed to fight josh emmett. Which was a top ten guy. Amick got hurt. Forgot about this comes in on short notice. Alan gets the win. Then he's supposed to buy jeremy stevens in november stevens gets injured. I know there were different fights to him. I know gig. Khazei was one of those individuals that was offered to him. He said you know what. Cool fight bro. But on the top. Ten guy i need a rank i ab- sick of fighting. These like unranked is dangerous fights. I wanna rank is so he waited stay patient and now he gets if i would up so this is an awesome fight. Man like your thoughts on this comb. Event in two guys with long lay offs. This it's pretty much even steven here. I like this by I'm not. I'm not in love with these featherweights. As much as everyone else's. I think i had like arnold allen to win this. I think he's just a better fighter overall. But no they've been out for a long time maybe syracuse effigy. Maybe they've gotten a lot better. I don't know but yeah it's it's goodbye actually. I don't okay. I'm going to. I'm going against against the You guys but i. I don't i don't i just i i like. I like dern and nunez. Yeah during during a nunez better. I think that should be actually coming event but this is a fine is going to high action by is probably will be tonight and but but the only problem with this is i think this is the second best featherweight by the weekend and you mentioned earlier i actually liked the baladora fight between kennedy and adam has a higher level fight but this is a fine and there's a great fight card a fine fighters as it is. I mean i love. I like arnold alan but i like i like the i like the better i think as far as the the round robin adam board would be the best one of all four but now interesting is an interesting take right there. Well listen both of those fights. The two best nights of the weekend my opinion so yeah. I'm not like night-time down it. I just think there's a better great fight. I think you are shouted down the biltmore rankings panel. Are you puerto rico. Trench male casey. Don't get me started on that. But i'm going arnold alan to i'd i think use of if this is going to get finished. I think uses the guy to get the finish and that's not out of the realm of possibility i think allen is the more technical guy he's been he does. He's fine down the stretch like he. He can go full. Fifteen doesn't struggle with it. We kinda necessity use of kind of fade away in the andre feeling fight. He's still got the win but feelings started to turn it on. I think are allowed. Took a lot away from that fight. So i think down the stretch. Especially if it's like one one heading into into the third. I think aren't allen's kind of ben in most situations a little bit more and can come through in a better way so i think allen wins the decision. I think it's a great fight. And i'm very much looking forward to it. The betting lines very close like we said that we got mackenzie earn versus nina nunez. Nina nunez is a minus forty favourite before that or after that right before. The co main event jillian marquez. Mine is one eighty five favorite against alvie comes back plus one sixty and then daniel rodriguez the minus one forty favourite against platinum very papa. Perry comeback on him as plus one twenty. Of course. the undercard is interesting. We lost a fight. Aaron blanchfield versus normal. Dumont is not happening. You might miss wait three and a half pounds. The commission said and longer happening so ak- on that i do have some thoughts and an update. From of course are are the brazilian peacekeeer. Make of course has already spoken to normal and she says as you just mentioned the cushion did not allow her to fight and apparently this is from dumont. Apparently the ufc. We'll send me to the pi to run tests and find out the best way for me to cut wait. They will do some studies with me and see how continue this class. Because i believe they really will close the featherweight division. I'm pretty upset. I wanted to fight. So it doesn't sound like at least as far as she knows that Featherweight is an option. We don't know if that's the case we as far it could but obviously always talk about that division that quote unquote division. If there is one being shut down. So i guess she's hasn't given up trying to make one thirty five but yes is their second straight fight coming in at one hundred thirty nine point five pounds. She's also three point five over for her bout with actually. Haven't smith and you know i don't i don't think i don't think she can make bantamweight comfortably but the people the can work wonders. Maybe there is actually a good explanation. Why she hasn't been able to make one thirty six. And and so. Maybe this isn't the end of seeing it. But it's a shame that we didn't get to see the aaron blanchfield who is a top prospect at flyweight could could have been the flyweight champion entering this. We're not for fight with pro gonzalez find through for baking title and yeah mike you mentioned. It hasn't thoughts i. I think that she may have dodged a bullet here. I don't think do modest bad fighter at all and she would have been much much bigger than blanchfield and it would've been a very tough debut for blanchfield so hopefully obviously she's now the abc's Roster i assume and get proper flyway debut. Whenever she's she's very to fight again face. Add dumont minus fifty favorites so they kind of stopped the same thing that you did and then before the make jim miller versa joe celebrities a great fight. Scott wholesome versus game rod as a ridiculous like that. Jack jack versus hunter azures azusa. Great fight down junk rustaveli of nights fund. The there's a lot of like a little bit of something for everybody on this car. There's crazy fights there's heavyweights. There's middleweight middleweight. Bytes there's a little bit of everything. And i think every combat sports fan can can take can take solace in that. So do we have. Do we have thoughts and questions from the peeps. Oh yeah they had. We been live this whole time as embarrassed embarrassing here. We go no no. It's not it's not my birthday. I yeah i appreciate the wishes note. It's not my breath. Oh net never my birthday. I just edible you know bouquet things of like welcome honeydew and stuff so it's gonna be arriving any time so it's gonna be awkward. Just won't be no. We'll be sending you back. Tell you that much. okay. I'll be enjoying arrigo. Got ak say it started off shouts so if marva tori wins and calvin gasoline beats bobby knuckles does vittori get the title shot or does the ufc do things and just give the title. Shot darren to start a ridiculous question. Either by the way is now. So let's let's launch it this way. If vittori wins is the best case. Scenario for him is he. Is he the biggest kelvin gasoline fan on the planet after that if a tory winds is he the i'm sorry blocked off for a second. Yeah yeah look he kind of we. We talked earlier in the show is going to kinda fall into place for vittori to get that next shot. He he's he. I know he's he's made the case he fought to a split decision. All that And there there is a segment of fans by the way that vittori won that. Fight that say that that same segment where margaret. that's eight the segment marmot. Victoria's family that anytime anytime. There's a split decision like within a year. Though people will look back on this petition and be like. I can't remember though but yeah it was split. Maybe maybe the did win. It's like no if you watch that fight it's pretty clear when you for israel and not the vittori didn't give him a good fight it was. It was as long as toughest test up into that point. But addison your one. But yeah no i do think that that an impressive win here as we said if he can if he can not just ground out a win but maybe scores submission and himself is promo good. Promo can go. Michael chan funding for lightweight title. Now so if you can channel that italian fire that jose he's touching upon into a good promo and to this on. Abc we we don't know what the effect abc will have on on guys careers so far but it's a big deal. It's it's pretty cool to say if you if you won by submission on a headline abc card at has to mean something has to give you some sort of mainstream cachet. And if that's the case you look he puts himself reading that shortlist for shop maybe not at the front on no matter what happens but the other fights that have to shake out but at least in the talks again we know how to go. He's probably a guy who's willing to take the fight for a reasonable. According to what the you'll see how the so. I don't know i think it's odds again title shot this year. I'll say what better than fifty percent your thoughts on this question. Sixty percent better than sixty percent. I'll go that far when sixty percent that vitor you will get this year this year. Better than fifty percents We'll answer your question. Mike is marvin tori biggest problem gasoline fan of the world a yes because they're trading partner so it's not like he's going to root against him so after he wants this game at the end of the day jose too selfish game at the end of the day. It is but according to an interview on finding dot com with calvin gasoline and marvin tori. They're only fighting if it's a title so that fight could happen if one of them gets the usa championship. So i've calvin gasoline wins. I think adam just means marvin tori is maybe a step ahead kelvin. In this race it was kind of like that one point win jeff and moreno were fighting They were both like on. These runs a welterweight and we interviewed marino in houston and he was like jeff neal one step ahead of me and we're only gonna fight. If jeff gets that title. I i catch him. I think right now marvin considering. He's on a win streak. A one step ahead of kelvin. So kelvin wins. That is clearly get a benefit more mature because like we all. I think we all agree could probably already deserves a rematch with israel. Decided to begin with after back wins over. Till and jared cannon air people forget about jared canada's existence in seoul middleweight landscape. So yes marvin. Toy wants kelvin. Win a because they're our friends and teammates and be because that would knock off a contender for him to go through and would probably just elevate him higher up in this race to rematches. Ronson all right casey. Le- let me ask you this. Salvatori wins does everything aka said he needs to do in. Calvin gasoline wins endeavor until still get that title shot without even fighting. Absolutely absolutely willie comes out of that. Yeah i mean. I i hate resorting back to those. Were whoever takes less money. Gets the title shot but i mean yeah i think till is still the front runner for the next title. Shot against busy by also think If kelvin puts a puts a good beating on whitaker and defeats him. I don't expect that to happen. But if he does. I actually i mean i why why. Why are we discounting kelvin. Being behind behind the line with the story i mean. Why wouldn't you one run back. The greatest middleweight championship fight. Ever i would. And i know it's we're trying to find logic in the. Us's i know sorry apologized for that but i would say i would assume it's kelvin. Lost a boring fights at darren and he got submitted by jack and vittori just shattered. Jack herman's is jaw in five rounds on short notice fight. So that's the argument. They're gonna take again. I also don't think kelvin after watching damon's interview with kelvin kelvin. Be one of those guys that would wanna like screw over marble because like he was very complimentary of mommy's like i don't want it to be newsman. Burn situation but they've discussed it. But i'd from that interview. I pulled if they offered it to marvin. I don't think kelvin would wanna kind of backstabs main training partner and take that fight. But i don't know that's what i pulled so clearly what's going to happen is holland's gonna win kelvin's gonna win and then we're going to. Is he versus holland. That's obviously the it's going to happen. Percents man got dr. Darren is still the frontrunner angry about one. Yeah sure oh sorry. That was a mistake in the business. Where does the winner of go in the featherweight division with the division stuck for year due to volk ortega coaching nov. I mean. I'm not gonna answer this question because this is a sunday question added it is. I'll i'll take a look at it. Hold on. I'm bring up my mystery. Rankings right now. Yeah i won't i won't say who they'll fight I don't know if we could because then kuo neither guys top ten yet right. Allen is a movies out eleven okay like the right right. it's ten. Yes oh so. I mean look danny gain and zombie your books. That's not happening. I don't the answers. I think the answer is cater. Calvin did he say. He's taking acclaimed actor over. I mean sure. And who's generous teams fighting so you have a fight. He's lightweight yeah you want right right right right. So he's out and then e as what seven or eight and then so he's already boats To cal calvin would be the next man up for one of the ways. And i think that's a great fight. I think that's the other. The other option is and we probably will end of thomas sunday. Mike again depends on what happens tomorrow. Probably one of them gets the gets as a beat fight. The they have no idea. What's up was the beat or when he's coming back so it's that's pure pure pure pure speculation. Yeh eventually right. He's he's he's still there somewhere. Yup tell me leads to nowhere. Is i have a feeling whoever wins. I'll say this what's next probably a bit of a weight. Think think which sucks. Because again i look you said of almost four hundred fifty as probably want to get in there as soon as possible so they have to wait someone in the top ten. I mean like six months. I know that sucks to here but Or the despite someone below the which. I think arlen deputy shouldn't do if you win. Because he'll be eight. No on the tends to victories and maybe could consider it but he will be five on the of c seven straight victories. So they're just kinda stuck. But i i would. I would say you'll see you will get them for a while. They'll have to wait. Who's burgos fighting barboza. yup yup. Yeah winter thou but that's a little that's because they're both outside the top ten. I don't wouldn't top ten. That'd be fun fighting or the loser. Maybe of gain zombie. Do you think there's any chance are you see really gets behind the winner this fight and i think there's there's promotional reason to get get seriously behind guy that they could throw him in the deep in booking against someone like max holloway. That's up to max. I i wouldn't either of those fights. I just think it would be up to match over forty five. Can't mess up so beach three so like either like if they did. Max beat fight if because they're both top five they don't have a fight and your hair is still on the shelf and zombies both so then holloway's a beat is a fun fight and i think kate averse the winner of ala. You sentence of fun fight. There's no pissing little featherweight tournament. We got l's if only they actually had those in the afc but yeah there's there's no protecting your the top twenty of the featherweight division of the oc. There's no protecting record. You're giving something up or just a just a busy or you're going to wait for big fight but either way you're finding someone tough and there's no there's no padding vocal tiga most likely not happening till the third quarter at minimum. I think this year. Like i know it sucks even saying that so like november. I think we're gonna get some crazy matchups and featherweight just because there's no you're just really because you know i mean like no one is you're kind of just keep your rank so i think we i think we are gonna have some crazy match-ups coming this year and featherweight division for sure. Maybe maybe featherweights going up to one fifty five like we talked about on. Thank you can you imagine. Can you imagine july tenth. The coleman event of poor mcgregor three. You do holloway. Freak engage e five browns. And kidding me. That's that's the again thanks. Kelly says oh so good. Don't go teasing. Mr. it's gonna good don't you. That coming around the bottom of the top twenty in In featherweight do you get your qods. Say just crazy. This efficient as crazy. Believe me so. Give me all day on lot. Yes what a division. God if only they get all these featherweights and put themselves tournament like a some sort of pre but a grand one. But i don't know. Yeah but who would do that. What what made you. What made you promotion with you. That you know casey. Tell us your the your pr belts. Promotion care adam and jamie jamie. Kennedy's super get he. He only had one loss in the ufc. He lost a freaking bogan. That's crazy it's goodbye. Thanks palestine yeah that baiter matuyama fight his tonight right. Yeah do carmo in puerto fighting the ghana's fighting it's it's a good car. I'm excited about people. Duval is not a question right. Duval is of mind. So i appreciate it. Let's wait for all these brass do all. It's really put a moratorium on new balls until jose is actually in duval county more time on this state of mind. We are always there whereas frigid. But some was actually gonna be there soon. So directed perr rodriguez have combined. One guy one grab the throat. Tatoune do the face man. This is like you know when you're like your grandma's like oh mma's for those scary people like yeah. This is the fight that this is a perfect fights. Cough you busy. Mike perez opening it kevin harlan's closing it. That's great no i. I love the idea of that. No no we're going to have this venom reblog fight kids so everything doesn't look like it's all nascar looks more professional yet. We have mike okay. Sure they're wearing today. Look good second one up there. Thank second or third one one seventy on the nose so him. Speaking speaking of this is now a tattoo. Podcast more in the main event. Kevin's are marvins. it's two completely different styles. oh marvin. I'm sorry. Sorry kevin's kevin's for sure. I view if you like cohesive sleeves or do you like the sticker sticker. Tat's that's pretty much it. Yeah i you can tell what neighborhood you're from the i know where you live. I can tell by your chest tattoos so the answer is several turns over at if during gets past noon as she one fight away from title fight. Absolutely i think absolutely not out of the realm of possibility the way i i. I think this is such good matchmaking by the ufc because especially with Miss nunez her. I get used to saying that now. Nunez high ranking and with her long lay-off we honestly don't know how going to look tonight she know even though she's ranked number five she may not be really number five ring fighter anymore. Just do you know. Just having a baby or she could be better. Who knows but. I think this is a great chance for during to kind of take advantage of that. And you've been it's been it's been on the mackenzie dern trained for awhile. So yeah if she if she beats nunez convincingly heck. Yeah and i'll be super impressed. Honest lakes i'm not expecting her to but she does. Wow she is. She is fide. My expectations i think the only thing that would keep like she she she might be to just way Land land because The person that be mackenzie amanda boss. Just got tko by marina. Might be one behind marina than john. Non sitting at three has lost museum. Of course you wanna waiting there too so they might just be to away just based on who wins certain fights but i favor mckenzie in this fight and i wouldn't. I want to see her face. Walia rose i just depends on how all these other fights playoff. I yang fighting carla right devil again and that would be. How many wins in a row carla. She almost got title fight. Anyway because of the rose five so it'd be like five zero facing yanji who's while also like what foreigner ellison that in the afc at six now right so she's there. That's i think. They're step ahead in marina. I think just step had based on the fact that she just tko. Amanda the person that beat mackenzie. So but what the other one for mccain firefights. I'm not saying. I'm not saying mckinsey deserves it but we're talking. Ufc logic here so Yeah i gave. I give a hard no when i looked at the question now. I'm just thinking about right. Where would where would nina theoretically be. She is five issues actually firing the official rankings. Right now in. The shower contended tracking suzanne. The she handled a classic adelphia. Who's been top seven top aide for the longest time so she. She took her spot right but then she has been away for a long time. So in my personal rankings. I removed her. But i mean she wouldn't she doesn't just fall to the bottom of the rankings. Because they an activity charlie honesty. We also have tatyana teasing a return this summer yourself. Mackenzie winds wouldn't hate that fight. Because that's probably the on tatyana. Beat nina back in chicago and neither of them sent. So if mackenzie then beats nina and takes her spot. I think in my rankings dot down four which would mean Dern would be five. I think that's an awesome fight for the summer. So she leapfrogs keep us he bus. Who how long the hebrew fight like two years ago now. Well not even the eighteen months ago that long ago. So it's like it's hard for me to put over hiba. He was fought at flies. Wants and then she got tko Yeah i mean a man of might be the most talented but in terms of how the lay of the land is is manda in if amanda in marina fought ten times. I think that's fifty fifty. I think bringing a clip to that and beater. Yeah yeah. I don't know what so. I'm just thinking about the original question issue. One way that i'll obviously. She's incan in the mix. Lana away so she does. Nina angeles gonna fight. Amanda boss like there's so many fights that could like shake this up because angelo fight every month every week so she's going to be ready no matter what so for all we know angela could be the kevin hollander this division when five in iran all of a sudden we're talking about five title nets here at least two away. I'm going to i'm going. She's she's she's too good goodwin's i agree to cool we did. We did the math on that one. How math we did the math. This is a question yes man. John mcdonough el salvador. Sorry john always quick questions question for me thoughts on fellow canadian. John mcdevitt return to the octagon. Tomorrow i was very fortunate to watch john before he came to the ufc. His talent was evident from the beginning he was. I remember the show. I saw matt. He was so clearly Clearly a step above the guy who was facing and you knew that he was. He was bound for for bigger things. I don't remember. I don't think he was his last two fights to fights before he He mentioned the of see. And it's i don't know the guy has been so inconsistent his opponent way. 'cause mackenzie is not a particularly large lightweight even though He himself using the pass. More book sort of mass. And he's not a guy on. I don't like that his opponent who was the last couple of fights at welterweight Didn't make way so. That's an issue. I i don't even know if i can in this fight because i think bahamonde is a pretty talented guy that wait miss bugs me so i think it's great to see him back. I know it's been a over a year. He's only once a year since twenty like eighteen. He fought july again now. July two thousand eighteen twain nineteen march twenty and april. Twenty twenty one. So it's tough man stuff like this to find rhythm he's getting a little bit up there in age. I'm not saying is old game up there in age but yeah i'm anxious to see him return. I do wonder though if if he gets a loss here because it's been away for so long it's been fairly inconsistent if these veterans who ends up on the chopping block. So what a. What a terrible what pessimistic thing to say. But that's my thoughts my thoughts. Sorry you're completely right though. This is they really like agnosio. Mondays african after that performance on the contender series. They liked him. They like him a lot like below. Muhammed and nick nausea one blouse like main trading partners and teammates. This is kind of a. This has gotta fight that the afc is this respect. John mcdevitt desi. But this is one of those two lines of thinking fights where let's hope this young kid just kinda rolls over and it kind of rolls and he moves on to bigger and better things. We could push him in a veteran name that he can build off of. So i think the problem with his two most famous fights he got his head kicked him. Both of them the cowboy and landau fight like when people think john modesi they think of cowboy breaking his jaw and modesi waving it off in the middle of the fight and then they think of landau in we'll kick and then everyone thought landau is going to be the next big thing some of to be fair modesto beaten like able to rouse pearson and How many baghdad. And all that stuff. But i just think yeah what mike said. This is a star. Making more from a desi is opponent kyle watson spinning back fist. Which as i look at it now. Ten years ago in toronto in toronto. Oh yeah i remember that. Yeah that was that was that was so good and the this guy skydome trying to rogers centre. I don't i don't. I don't recognize these corporate names. I'm not. They're not paying me to advertise the rogers. Whatever that is. It's the skydome. Dang after mr rogers. Casey oh. That's cool the mr rogers dome. That's cool. i'm holiday ruined wearing and desi cowboy fight was supposed to be cowboy habib to notice carb is supposed to be Jones rumble and. Oh yeah some wine and food and cowboy habib all sorts of craziness happening the only fight that that stayed intact was wiedeman belfour which had been snake being for so many years before that. Do you remember what which was the reason for this. Particular john jones hit a woman ran away and then dass from his fight against ryan bater defiant johnson for the vacant another that we thought we thought it was definitely going to happen some day and they had greatest the showdown the press conference. God we thought guaranteed to happen. Guaranteed without some happens day. The only time ryan beta ever had serious heat on a fight. Only that one eighty-seven fight card was nuts. Too that's the one could be fought on the prelims. I'm pretty sure. Islam macho like opens the entire card Joe be fought. Frigging john moraga scrap and then everyone forgot about it because andrea air game travis brown had the greatest one round fight not names so that was absolutely and i'm looking john dodson. We're gonna weekend very the lead his aunts weekend. Use the elevator. So i had to leave to make room. Whatever your last more deaths we. Also we'd be remiss if we didn't say r.i.p deacs those of course. Some sad news officially passed away. Today's family released a statement. Just awful. He's been on my gym playlist for years and listen anderson silva ain't no sunshine when that when that music it. Every time he made. The walk was just magic was unbelievable. We'll hit again soon. We'll hit against gonna hit extra hard when he fights Shop as hopefully it comes out to that nine like his kids not as good song. It'd be a mashup. Maybe a mash up mash about mashed up kid. It's not as good as the song. That's it sucked said. It's not as good the amax. Good okay all right on that. Know how dare ever again everyone way for the rv. Karaoke bars opened up again. So we all have a couple of drinks party up stock ninety nine all very very influential. Very popular rapper. I will say that when you make your amateur. I hope you hope. I'm assuming you're going to accidentally get matched up with anderson soap escape. When he makes what a story that would be unreal. All right well listen more magic. Hopefully it will be made tomorrow. You have a three or abc to whatever you wanna call it. We got balladur coverage going down. It's going to be an exciting weekend of combat sports action. We're getting out of here. For casey. And jose i mike cac. We'll see you tomorrow morning. Everybody happy birthday birthday. Why did you tell me to mention weird. You're listening to the fox media podcast network.

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Ep. 2,833: Anthony Smith, Dominick Reyes and Gilbert Burns

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Ep. 2,833: Anthony Smith, Dominick Reyes and Gilbert Burns

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The only showed broadcasting live from the Mandalay bay resort and casino in the fight capital of the world, Las Vegas, Nevada. The lights are on and the mic, sir hot. It's time to get your MA fix junkies. Take it away. Big John, gorgeous, George goes. Are you ready junkie? Babysitters you written? Did you get it? All. From the bike capital of the world inside the beautiful Mandalay bay races sports. You're listening to the may junkie radio show. The only show that matters. I'm your host gorgeous, George with me as always the devious, and dastardly goes our east coast my left. It's the bite analyst, Dan, Tom using the show today. Josh jumbo. Josh Becky, what's up guys. What? Killing like a villain. Yeah. No. I'm not. No. I'm just gonna hold back from icing my buddies. They don't do that. Okay. It's funner when you them, right? So here it comes. You all know, I have three good buddies that a lot of you have met. I have a lot of good buddies. But the these are three that I grew up with known for for a minute. Gabe, who doesn't have a nickname. Sometimes we call him junior or gays. His name gets butchered more than mine. Does it really do showed me a receipt? They call them cave cave. Yes. All right. And then squid and Woody right? Yeah. See them during March madness during the Super Bowl and other occasions. Well, two of them. I can't stand from the months of September two right about now because they're big Cowboys fans, and they shut the fuck up right answers the Cowboys keep winning. I got to put up with it. And that's fine. I'm willing to put up with it. But when you got a big old fat trap like they do. And you have an opportunity to go. Watch your team in the playoffs at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, which is about an hour and a half minute drive for Woody in about a five hour drive for the squid even throw in traffic. If you're a hardcore fan like they say, they are you need to be at that game. Yeah. Scenario. First of all I kept hearing is. Yeah, we're going all the way, and we're going to be there. All right. You know at the time they were struggling, and I was like yet the cute guys. But it's not going to happen. Now, they're in the final eight and. They have a matchup versus the LA Rams. But last week they kept saying remember, we have this phone threat, text thread, and they kept saying hokey. So if eagles take out the bears, and we beat who they play the forecast thing who they play eagles and bears Seattle. And then we'd beat the Seahawks. Go to LA, man. We're so they're all they did that and they're not going. They kept doing that. I'm looking for tickets Woody with your squid, I found some here and there circling because now the phones isn't just words, it's emojis and texts and this and that then one of them throws out. A fun fact all I said was hey, you got your work cut out those teams that have had the by and their two weeks at home resting high winning percentage. Oh, man. It's going to be sixty five percent. Cowboys fans we're going to own that. That stadium. We as an against them them to and. Whatever else. The math works out to. I know from living in southern California that the Memorial Coliseum holds about ninety three thousand, but I wanna have simple math something to go with ninety and I'm gonna pretend they said sixty and not sixty five if sixty percent of that stadium. The ninety thousand seat stadium is going to be Cowboys fans that means nine times six fifty four thousand Cowboys fans are going to be there. What I found out tonight is that in the LA area and Vegas. There's fifty four thousand more hardcore fans than these two buffoons. Yeah. Well, we checked and those they sky rocketed the five hundred if you sit up I just turned off the phone. And so instead, I'm gonna go get a TV and watch it in my in my living shut up. Because you got me all fired up for the last two weeks about what you might be doing. And I'm living vicariously through them part of me is like damn why can't my Niners? Do that. Right. Yeah. But they're not. So there's doing it. Now, I am they're ready to push buttons. If they lose the first one that just laughed my azoff. But when they don't I will also take my medicine, and all I can do watch. All this the threat just keeps coming on my phone on my I message we're this. We're that we're legit repeats, Dallas, whatever man they're entitled to it. But I was really really disappointed to see that squids. Always slinging all these bed in college basketball college football. I sure thousands are wrist every day. And he can't just try five hours. He started saying something about I gotta get a room. Don't what he lives there. Yeah. All you. Gotta do is drive Woody friends out in that area. All you gotta do drive to woody's or big Ralph's that guy is waiting for you with a cooler and some sandwiches and some waters, and then some cold ones that have at the stadium. Then you both get in the car car pool. So LA's, traffic's horrible. I got you. But at least you got a carpool buddy you had down there with the four hundred or the five hundred dollar tickets that you paid for. All right, whatever it's like you lost the bet. It's like you got a flat tire something something happened. But something that you weren't expecting. And we do it for the things we weren't expecting you might as well do it for something that's going to be fun. Epic right because the Cowboys haven't had this. I think it's been twenty some years since either one a playoff game, or at least advance at this level, something like that. I don't know. But at least to a point where they don't have to fly to Texas now you're talking about three hundred dollar flights. And he'll you have to do the hotel and flights to get there. Let's road trip. But this one is just the gas tank up and back. You stay at what he's you. Get to the stadium cheer on your team, you die with them or you live with them, or whatever take pictures postal on Facebook comeback crash woody's of you have to get in your damn car and drive back to Vegas. I agree. You know what? I mean. It's that's just that's just what you have to. Do. You have to do it for the record. I will say this. I actually wanted to Cowboys win their first game. Because I think it's way funnier when they get smashed in the second round if they lose in the first round, then you're gonna hear well, nobody expected us to be here anyway. But if they get Chris in the second round now, they have a little bit of hope. And when I want them to go through the meat grinder. Yeah. But I am really disappointed in those two guys. Now, the other one just chimed I'm gonna get a new TV to Sida who cares. Give me off red. We all got nice TV's at this point. You know, I'll do fun things. But we don't do is go to playoff games. Those are on the road talk about the nineteen ninety floored warrior, and if see championship game that I went to or the one we went to for the Spurs to store, you can tell for the rest of your life. These are memories. It just so happens like gave the other two we can't go to a game together unless it's USC or the Lakers, I suppose, but football we can't because he's a Redskins fan. I'm a Niners fan goes. And I did it once, but that's because the Redskins were playing in San Francisco, but for the most part, I don't want to spend my money to go see his team and vice versa. I get that. But these to have that in common, and we talk about it all the damn time. And check out this Cuban cigar look at this steak. Look at these golf clubs. They make good money. The money comes in. And it goes out sack up assholes. Seriously. Waiting for me. It doesn't get any better than that you want. Do you want the Cowboys to overtake the raiders moved to to Las Vegas is that close enough? An Uber ride home and back or do you want? Or does what do you want him to play with Cucamonga earthquakes playing and and play in that it doesn't get any closer than the LA Coliseum? I know find a way. This is a rally cry for them to find a way to go to that game. And if not leave me off the threads, call yourself a hard core. Cavalry fan. I asked holes. Yes, they never go. Holy cow. Like, I couldn't believe it as I was reading these Texas after noon and that little throw in of the TV like, oh, yeah. The good call man. Don't care what you need to do you need. Do what I do. You just got to redo your rankings on your friends list and bump them down. I honestly probably vote someone until the Super Bowl, I won't reply. It anything to do with football. They wanna talk about something else. I'm in all chime in. Oh, yeah. College basketball or the Vegas Golden Knights. The lakers. Whatever don't bring up the Golden Knights. Josh pissed off another fight on your hands. You bring back friends and caller ranking start ranking things. Dude. It's fun to rank your family members in your friends. I know it sounds like an asshole move, but you got a lot of shit done. Yeah. And then you actually, it's a little subliminal a little subtle jab. Where you tell your friends and your family shape up. That's why I haven't been returning your emails or texts like I used to because even Jag off these last few months or years or fill in the blank. I don't know if you know this. But everyone on my phone has a credit score rating. And every time they piss me off their credit either goes up or down. No matter wanna look this individual is eight forty. That's a good credit score. Who's the king of bed advice can't say, oh, but that that person is good credit with me? I'm watching a highlight of Reggie Miller. And he actually was calling James harden clutch the other day, that's a big win home. And if I'm James harden, I went home, and I heard somebody told me that or him telling me that it'd be like, wow. I guess I guess I really am that you know, like, I feel real good about being. Want to be clutch? All the superstars, but I don't I can't remember more clutch guy than Reggie Miller. Ran in for him to call you Mr. clutch. That's like that's like, gene. Gene doodo Jean Lebel saying you can be. Oh, no sorry. It was Roddy. Piper. Saying you can be rowdy. You know? I used to be rowdy, and I'm retired. You cannot use my nickname too strong. Endorsement one of the best one of the best sports moments. I call myself lucky to be able to view live nineteen ninety five Eastern Conference finals, you know. No just watching live viewing being alive for using little guy right for my time little guy, but I can hold. I can hold my own already any adult at my parents party one had a sidebar about NBA, Dan, Tom already collecting. Ten years old. Okay. But I mean, I I was already cutting newspaper clippings from like ninety four ninety three onward, you know, following following basketball like hardcore and being able to watch that turnaround. What was it? We're talking Knicks and Pacers. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And believe I can't was it. What was it like nine minutes, and some points even reference actually that in my Brian Ortega article when I was talking about his skill set post. This Frankie Edgar knockouts around his back may and just comparing him. He is an essentially coming to the conclusion that you know, comparing him to Babe Ruth kind of in the article, but he was essentially a clutch player and we all love clutch players. And that was a good example of a clutch player for may. And I felt better reference in Reggie Miller. And I kinda reference that one but thank Saint back Miller in their house. It incredible finish when the Pacers played the Knicks in the mid nineties. He scored eight points in six seconds. You know, I left your house. I can't believe in and take his own life. Those four. Friends that you're talking about or those three friends you guys all rented a house, and I was at that house. And I thought they were done I got in my car, and I left, and I remember when I got home, you told me what had happened, and I did not believe you. And I even like, I don't have a phone back then. So I waited awhile before I actually found out that it was true. And the only time I can ever remember something like that happening in may was when saint-pierre lost to Sarah. There was a pride event going on and Frank Trigg. He was calling him back then with more or no. And he had called me any asked me in the fight. I believe the same period got knocked out. He didn't believe me. And he was like, yeah, you're foolish at your bullshit. And you can even hear moral in the background go man quit pulling her legs. And I think they went awhile before they actually realized that it had actually happened. Oh, yeah. By the way, it was a eight points nine nine seconds. Yeah. So that's easy to just Google. Reggie Miller point, eight seconds. You can find that little sequence. There was a three pointer. I think you had to run back and turn in mid air. And then Huckabee pointer, I mean, I can do one out of ten I think, and that's what my feet set and no one guarding mean. He did what he did. But look I'll finish with this. By the way today, our guests. We'll be Gilbert burns Dominic Ray is Anthony Smith those are three m I guess on this radio show where we spoken very little. I wanna finish with this for my buddies, and this is more to squid than Woody squid. Do you? Remember when we were seventeen years old and we went to two game sevens back tobacco. You're seventeen and eighteen that was the Los Angeles Lakers game seven, Boston Celtics, and the and the Detroit Pistons we didn't have that kind of money. I don't know where the hell we got two hundred. That's what it costs us to get in. Are you? And they thought his his data ticket. Yeah. The money just comes and goes, then the memories don't know what I mean, don't and I know my dad can say I went to a game even to game six game was better. We won from like, it wasn't like his came down to like a Magic Johnson type show, you know, the little shot. I don't know what it was what it was game six. He had the better game. But we were there to watch everybody rush the court. I was just telling Jon Landau, the story about the limousine driver who tried to get loud Lippi with Lakers fans, and then about thirty of us jumped on his limo and just completely demolished stone cold. He asked for it. But but but squid you remember that right squid? Do you remember when we made shirts that said? Gola foster the Lakers because Boston fans used to used to say what these say beat LA LA LA and Laker fans used to say, Boston sucks. So we combine the two and printed out the dumbest t shirts, you could possibly make cheapest shirts, probably like one seventy five cents for shirt, and we're still don't pretend we tried. We sold a few. And then also tapped on the shoulder by LAPD. He can't be doing that took it from us. He let us keep the money. I think because we said we haven't sold anything, you know, we're all scared, but we were Housel in. You know what I mean? And he just can't erase those good memories. He had so many the shirts damn tickets and get the fuck outta town man on Saturday drive up onset drive up on Saturday pickup. Woodie go to the game. In the game live with the consequences of the game. And then if you're tired of dry back, then stay at woody's. He's got a guestroom and drive back the next day, and if you can pull it off if you didn't drink or you just feel refreshed, and you can do it the comeback all in one night. Let's say it's as simple as a school, especially when you talk it up like they're good squeeze got serious. Right. Serious. You heard the man squid, and and I'm not gonna let Woody off either. Because. He's he's right there with just as guilty Cowboys and shit. Yeah. How about them Cowboys? That's what they say. Every Sunday what's up Prescott? And this guy and Amari Cooper. We're going all the way that they do this. They'll be in LA. We're so there you ain't shit. You ain't there. You can be there. You got time to be there. But you ain't there right now. So we wouldn't have ashamed I'm doing. We wouldn't we wouldn't be here right now. You seem fired up. I am fired fired up. You know, the other day we went to USC versus UCLA both teams suck this year. USC five hundred but were used to going like eleven to twelve and one thirteen whatever. We were like five and six and six time we played UCLA. UCLA was like foreign eight we had no business at the game. But when we bought the tickets the season started we had a really good time. You know that I can imagine. Tailgated? They still had rate laughs. The game was good. We lost the game. And I can still say it was a fun time. Gives need a reality. Check. Oh my God. All right. So. You know, who are three guests are. But let's talk about some other things that have you know, Carolina Cal Cobo cabbage is fighting Michelle Watson, I like that matchup. Yeah. There's people that are willing through and Dominic. Reyes. I mean, I know it now because I had to look it up. But he's fighting Vulcan those four no in the UC. He's ten ino- overall. So pretty soon we're going to be talking about him. Like Corey Anderson has to start sweating him because Anderson I think feels like his quarters up on the video game. All right, Anthony Smith's plan. But I got next for Jones. But he better watch out because is really really exciting. And I didn't really I thought he was like two, and I thought he was like ten ino- and to see, but no man is last week was that OS Pete win. And now, he's got to MIR. That's a big fight caroliina Cova cave, which is a big fight a lot of champions, either know who they're finding or they're already booked to be finding some of these athletes. Some of these challenges that are coming up in the ranks. It's a pretty exciting time. If you're never may fan the spring of two spring. Well, we're still in the winter. But the early part of two thousand nineteen going into the spring on memorial day's really really setting up nicely rankings mean nothing have your that. Number one contender. It almost means nothing because I never do all he's gotta do put on a great performance in guess what? Now, he got the shot. I will say kind of add in Georgia's note, it's exciting time more. So for light heavyweight which we haven't been able to say in a while. We've been kind of you know, almost making fun if you will because it was, you know, the, you know, the premier division for so long, and it kind of had been has been thinned out. No, thanks to you know, one of the greatest of all time John Jones and Daniel Cormet holding his dead while he was away. I mean, having those two guys at the tops going to make any divisional thin but this quietly contenders. Kinda like what you're saying George and by the way, Dominic Reyes. Yeah. Four and owned the UFC now quietly. Three officials stoppages though, you could say four stoppages if you guys remember at that third round with Pia he knocked them out of the pretty much the last second. Really on the Connor Connor card. Right. I believe it was. Remember the one to twenty nine up to twenty nine. Yes, sir. So we have some really really good guests on today's show excited to talk to him. Burns will come in around in about ten minutes. So I know we're gonna have to take a break pretty soon. And then we'll talk to in the second hour, we got Smith and raise backtrack now. All right. Let me start throwing out the number. Look the first two shows kind of in a feel feeling out process here of prime time. And getting my bearings straight eastern time. All that bullshit. But here we go so lock these numbers. Eight seven seven fight ninety three eight seven seven three four four four eight nine three. That's the same thing as fight ninety three. And that way, you don't have to scramble to hear me say, you already know it lock it in the phone and just put him and junkie radio again. Eight seven seven fight ninety three or eight seven seven three four four four eight nine three. And I just told you when the guests are coming in five thirty PM Pacific for Gilbert burns, six PM Pacific for Dominic. Reyes six thirty PM Pacific. Anthony Smith in between them we have some pockets where we take commercials or we cover the latest news. Are we more importantly, we take calls from you all so call in and talk about maybe you don't maybe forgot to get into the daily debate. You just want to chime in on that. Maybe you want to chime in on the latest news or still offer an opinion on the Covington who's mon- Woodley triangle there or what should what should DC do? Now that Jones kinda just went ahead and did his own thing. You know, we kept thinking his DC gonna get less than you know. Less there, by the way, has still paid two hundred fifty thousand to the Nevada State Athletic commission and around this time is win. He completes the one year sentence of the infraction. He had at UC two hundred against Marquette. He had a a one year suspension. It got put on hold. But when DC said me and Leser and all that activated itself. Again, Lessner had to basically make himself available to you Sada to show that he's cleaned. So that he can compete in that aside from that you have to pay two hundred and fifty thousand and then he can go forward with that. And if not then I guess would be the the next guy because deceit has said, so and I don't know that anybody else's more qualified, do you think he has to pay two hundred and fifty thousand or do you think he says I really liked the come back? But there's this little fine hanging out there just says we got that player. Yes. Yes. They do. So they go just go out there and pay the damn thing. And guess what have the fight? They'll be some bonus in there for you. Or you'll make it back. I mean, you know, you will make it back. I mean, really, maybe you can just say, or we just don't have you, you know. But I would think that the wants to they want to conduct a business transaction. So I don't know if they can say, we got you where the, wink, wink. But I think they'll say look man, you know, we sort this out the financial and the financial come in from a big fight that involves you guess what that two hundred and fifty will be covered. I I would think that that's how it would work. It's good to be Daniel Cormet right us just chill. And there's basically three giant fight out there waiting for you. Whatever happens happens right there. Either way you're gonna make a ton of money. Well, the listener fight is a windfall because there is a guaranteed mill paper. He's if Jones would happen that would probably go over Jones. We're getting close to a million the I know the eight hundred at that one in Anaheim would be the first one did. But I would imagine the third one would be a million steep. Not as big as those. Right. Not as big with still good. But I think Lessner is the one and. And sorry to disrespect Brock Leser here. But I think that's the easiest one as well out of meal Jones and Leser agree with that. Nagy vegas. That's fair. Although hopefully, the guy. Hi, clear me over over these walls, right here all of thunderlips. The. He could. Yeah. All right, guys. Let's do this. Let's take a break. And we will reset the table here. Gilbert burns, we'll be joining us followed by Dominic Reyes and Anthony Smith, we'll be some pockets call in so again, eight seven seven fighting Eighty-three or eight seven seven three four four four nine three. You lose to the fight and then the ring announcer. Get this is your home for all things combat theories. XM fight nation channel ninety three and on your phone with the Sirius XM app up assholes. Ulster reschedule that meeting calling your wife and her lunches off. It's time for enemy junkie radio. With gorgeous, Jordan goes. Right. It's tipping off at actually tipped off the Milwaukee Bucks. They will be playing against the airplane against James harden, and the Houston Rockets enjoy all the action from the hardwoods on MBA radio series. Two seven x eighty six streaming on your phone and at home on Sirius XM connected devices and speakers shot out to send me the squid was actually listened to my little rant there. Got you comeback was kind of dumb. But was it fat? No, I've only been to one you have seen the last five years you. Yeah. That's true. I close to being true. I know. That's why I just looked at it and said, I mean, all right, but. Yeah. That's dump the shot up this. Okay. I said what I said. And I hope the I hope they go because you can still get the TV and all that, you know, it's not one for the other come on Dominick. Cruz actually is trying to book like a day or two ago. And I feel terrible. I think I'll sending over a text as he was getting shoulder surgery. Now as someone who just has been nursing a sore shoulder, and he's probably got torn labor or something. I wish him the best. He has had the worst. Is he probably the most snake bitten? Yeah. Of all athletes. Have you covered in mixed martial arts. I think so. Yeah. The only. Right him because he's had like different. Yeah. Canes had a couple. Like like three torn ACL's. But, you know, look at the career he had to sit crews had a terrible career. But I mean cruises had so much time on the shelf man this. Yeah, it's spits been two years since he lost to Garbrandt feel the last guy you can make argument for bad luck. That guy's been able to pick and choose this nicely and not saying that in a mean way, but he did tear both these heels. I remember that. And I thought he torn oak chemo's had a bad run too. Yeah. Yeah. He died from Ursa. He had a hip replacement. See these guys at least got the championships where I'm not trying to play hairs, but it just point adds that it's interesting topic. You bring up because then you have guys like I would argue TJ grant, he never got that title shot all the way to and the career editor right there. And it's close as I am to the trophy here a career ender for TJ grant. He was on a five zero run when dropping the lightweight and I mean. Conceivably who was champion Pettus. Maybe I forget probably. Yeah. It was supposed. It was supposed to be Pettus is be no supposed to be no supposed to be Benson Henderson. And then and then they and pets was set up to face. Although at that time when they're talking about that super fire trout cut to go down. But then TJ grant pulls out so then well who better to step in Milwaukee, Than's, and he Pettus and Pettus got the title. That's when pet is worthy red suit, right? And he was front row. And that's when he called out. All right. It was. I think it was like you'll see one forty three one thirty seven. In the the reason I bring it up is because on that particular day if four out of five hundred dollars hit on the main card and Joey Varner, actually crafted with the assistance of Ford from Vegas. They crafted together a five teamer. I looked at it and said, I'm in because I'm very easy to convince to put a wager in, but this one had a lot of underdogs this one, Dan Tom had Bigfoot meeting. Alastair? Yep. Yep. And little dog beating her shoddy Rashad Evan. Yes. So basically, I was like you guys are crazy. Here's my fifty. I get cash parley. But. And the only favorite. I think was Aldo over Frankie over Edgar. Yeah. And it was so it was the Garo Rashad I I forget the other and it was four. No. And I remember at the very end. When you do one of these parleys, if you really really wanna like have some fun with it when you do a partly in Nevada, and you have a lot of underdogs in your last piece happens to be in the main event, preferably. It's nice to have the the favorite in there for one you feel a lot better. Like, oh, my God across all these hurtles. Now, I got these are the better guy. Not Eggers, easy, right? But here's the advantage. The one thing you can do is head using the leverage of the plus points on the underdog. So I told Joe Varner. I'm like, hey, man. These tickets are worth about five. Jeez. Each. Maybe we should heads a little on on Edgar. He was like in the arena. I got all though. I got the good guy. Got the I got the champ. You know? And I was like, yeah. But four hundred dollars just one. I mean how much can we tip? They can we poke that devil. Like, let's walk away with something. He was you could either walk away with four no matter what or you could find five but get zero right? And all this all this was happening in between three. Rogan's talking to whoever the talking. Trying to explain the prince. It's not like, we're. No. So Dan, you should head. You'd probably go. Okay hedging, he didn't know what that meant explaining in an arena. You're hoping technical and back and I'm like trying to write on my race. Okay. This is what happened that night. He said. Nope. And I was like, well, I don't have. I don't have that sack. So I did something to for. I think what I wanted to do was running all the way back to make legal wager here mentally bay. And then ran right back to the mentally bay events on. Yeah ford. Also, we played the percentages. But joy aren't got the biggest payday head of anyone because I'm throwing his business out there. I don't care. I don't think Lulu cares. He's got that Sam's Club money now though. Yeah, I saw bring that up by screen shot at that was like what the heck is going to Texas. You guys last? If it was too late. And and yeah, no, I was just going to bring that up. But I want I want to sidetrack is to get a call on. Oh, okay. Then. Then we have to get to that call, and I guess we'll keep trying Gilbert burns who so far we're over over one. Who do we have guys we got how from Chicago what's up? How how're you doing? What's my reward? My credit score goes. Milk that upon us goes good advice. Do forgive the credit scored would just worry about what he has you on under his phone. That's why I don't wanna look my name. Actually, I have doubted the real house Lintas. He's one of those teams number will give it. I don't have a credit score for but I'll put window right now. A figure that out look at this news. I miss this afternoon news. This was in between Megan in the shower and driving down here. Joseph in Evita's signed a new four fight U of C deal at flyweight. So is there has been an eleventh hour decision or is it still hinging on Suharto's? Gotta be dillashaw. It's or they bring it back or what here's what he said was at no point that somebody say, however, if something were to happen you need to finish the rest of your contract at one thirty five he said that never even came up. Yeah. Four fight. It doesn't specify the way class for his deal. I imagine like it doesn't specify the way class for any other dealing our own has their own Stephen. Tweeted out earlier regards this story, remember as the end of the day nothing negative, but they all can contracts are all all they can they can do pick. And choose what they want to do with these things at the end of the day guy. So true. So true man that was just boosting. Say that. I said you were going to next one I'll man boosting. I think it'd be easier. If you just said that the white, right? Oh about you took me serious. I was a full in about I was just playing with the media. Anyway. So what's his name? What's the score? Did we gave them a seven ten seven? Oh, okay. And someone eight forty. Yeah. So what does that eat forty guy done that how that how hasn't twenty hasn't? Oh, yeah. Get an eight four calls when he's in town hall reaches in his pocket to by someone a beer. He's a caller to the show. I can't put how's business out there. Oh, he's done some negative. Well, I mean if you went to a concert with how. Passing out. Listen. Hey, I've I've had how fall asleep with me a couple times. But he's still one of the better dates I've had Hal is infamous for falling asleep in and get this. I'm probably worse. This is no one knows it. Yeah. Yeah. My buddy gave were to call in right now. He could name five spots, and you guys are fucking dial. Like how did on, sir? I know for sure yeah. For sure. Once at the horse races. I think the strip comes more impressive. Had he falsely put a strip club. Well, it's not like they're always on your lap. I mean, there's a lot. I mean, the only thing you have gone in your. You know? That was impressive. Can can I say that or? Airplane? I won't tell the story. But he actually he threw up on himself and then fell asleep that one. My new too. All right. How? I may go down. Right. But just like fury. I'm up in ten. You know what I mean? And I'm ready to go for another two. You know? So anyway. Oh, I'll just say Alexander Hernandez versus owning a couple of Cowboys and one like. Mike, Colorado, all from Texas. He's getting disrespected again, he's he's he's a plus one fifty dollars. I don't understand the man Alexander got lucky with his punching is dare US Cup was gonna finish them or I guess, ticker. All right that that guy is my kryptonite when it comes to gambling, even when I bet I bet against them. I always get it wrong. Torius. Be talking right now, you guys talk about that. He's one of the harder gas to read, but I do agree with how? And I'm a big Alexander support may not big. But I mean, one of the only few people taking him against guys like oh AM and whatnot. So not that. I don't believe Alexander Hernandez. But that one didn't make sense it was similar to Barbosa Hooker. Now, I ended up taking Hooker. But that was before the odds shifted the odds ended up shifting making Hooker the favorite Barbosa the dog. And even though I was on Hooker. I didn't understand that. I'm no Hooker should be an underdog here. He's much less past win this fight and same with her aunt is saying I'm gonna go with Hernandez or not go with Hernandez here. I don't know what I'm going to go with in that fight. I'm actually going to be looking into that one soon. But I think the odds are off guys. Point. Hooker. You like to get on top of well. You know, you never wanna Hooker as a dog, right? You'll you'll. How still there hang up when I'm Josh for. All right. The USC on March thirtieth is going to Philadelphia to the Wells Fargo center. That's big news. And I'll tell you why. Because that's the city of brotherly love is a really really big city. I think it's the fourth most populated city in the United States. Don't quote me on that. It's either Houston, Detroit or Philly. I think it's Philly, of course, the top three or New York LA, Chicago. And there are a lot of fighters based out of Philly. But the the UC for whatever reason just hasn't been able to go there much, you know. In their history. And. It's baffling because it's a big boxing or. Yeah. It's boxers current boxers like puck is fighting or did you find? All right. Well Hopkins of their Danny Garcia the league. Joe frazier. Lots of boxers. So they're going back, and now Paul failed is the first guy I thought about, but as you all know he's booked. Do you think Paul fell there should politely and respectfully ask his opponent? Hey, man. Manda, ma'am. I didn't catch you at a bad time. Right. No. No, no. Let me ask. You question. Right me villi man in in six weeks later, then we're supposed to fight clear that all you call Sean shelve your Mark McMahon or to whoever your matchmaker. Isn't you say I already cleared it with so? And so, but could you just move my fight? I would love for Paul Felder to have his fight in the city of brotherly love, man. That's the first guy. I thought about. Yeah. Sorry. Go ahead. I was gonna say it's a bummer. No fell. There is obviously, you know, up the big name that they recently boss was Eddie Alvarez. And then he really shot out the fun size Makovsky, man. That guy's a Philly dude as well. But again, you know, flyweight who was cut prior to the kind of I don't want to fly with departure of not even invested of that in that point. But you know, what I'm saying you have to go what Pittsburgh guys we just what's his name? Just retired. We had him on the show went from heavyweight to light heavyweight outta mill said, but he's not no longer with them. So now, she Kagan believes got Philly ties perhaps. But I think she's been been in living in New Jersey times camp, they're the closest guys now Daryl Horter who's like I think it was like Harrisburg PA or something like that will sit Hayes at one time was affiliate guy before moving to San Diego. This was I f l going real real real. Yeah. Yeah. But, but yeah, there's some quality names there. I think that could. That you could tie you know, that down to and it is unfortunate Eddie Alvarez sign with one championship. And he would have been good. And I probably probably did think about him before. Maybe paul. I don't know. But that's going to be fun, man. I'm glad you did that. And I think the hidden Wichita for the first time, and I want to go back to Seattle. I've heard some good things about every time. They go to Seattle. You've had that fight card in Oakland with shell Sunan and Anderson's over the first time. Why haven't they been back to Oakland? Like, there's some major cities that need to get more. These shows a easy easy. We like our shows out here in Vegas. Don't take them away for weeks notice what name popped up in my head to. But is a Burt Watson wouldn't be there to. Yeah. And thinking about the last night the last time they were there. But one of my favorite baby. Last is one of my one of my favorite shows. Of course, you have C one. Oh, one headline by BJ Penn. Kenny floor, and you're the Andersons over Forrest Griffin fight there and Johnny Hendrix. I I still hear that Rolling Stones walkout song, you know. And he Marissa della member. Got that kind of controversial stoppage to some. I think at the time. But it was it was a very told you that I I remember him fighting. Amir's at all, but I don't really remember the fight the same walkout that heating. Big now, use a different song. Gimme shelter. Big did black data back. That the tar strumming in in Johny Hendricks. Wasn't that known table? You know, really, really good memory. I'll maybe I should apply to a blackjack not think about it there you all right? A good idea for us to go to commercial too. So I don't know if you can do that. Josh, let's go to commercial this song. It's junkie. Don't fight nation. Chelny three reset. We'll see we can real locate. You'll burns not a lot to move on. We still got Dominic gray is anti Smith going in the second hour. Stay close. Life is early. 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No. He kicked the kicked this coffee off the table. He's pretty pissed at this point. Hey, do you reference earlier shadow to the YouTube chat, of course? But just in the YouTube chat through this reference that you guys in reference George was talking about he said Dominic. Cruz is the Derrick rose of m m a standard. That's comparison. It is a good comparison Jau Jesse. I heard he's going to be out until late two thousand nineteen already. Yes. Elite two thousand eighteen so basically by time dominant Cruz fights again, it'll be three years, which is the same layoff. You had from when he fought whoever it was he fought last until KM occupy it wasn't it three hundred three plus years or something of that. Terrible. Yeah. Buddy, still like early thirties. And he's got tinware. No, no, no sorry. He he doesn't have to wear and tear just got shoulder and wear and tear. But from the injuries, but he's also healing everything else. So I suppose. Yeah. Can we clear something up? Yeah. What what is God's history. I had I swear to God. I've never heard of this. You can have that is so her mom, and my mom, go way back and like growing up just kind of always referred to hers kinda my older sister. But not by blood, so a God sister. But there's like a ceremony involved in that. I mean, there was there wasn't. There hasn't been an official ceremony. Maybe we could do one shadow to Lynch. He's visiting from California. No. We haven't done an official ceremony or anything. No. But I mean, you don't decide that your parents decide it, right? I was mutual I suppose again, these aren't questions I'm necessarily thought about but. Yeah, I mean, the original connection was my mom and her mom working working together way back in the day longtime. So I should sit here and go men if something were to happen to George I need someone to give me a wedgie. And then I picked somebody that I just think would be like, a cool older, brother. You can listen you can make your own rules. Are you kidding me? You're in Vegas. You got like half an octagon is a studio you're ball. And you could do. By the end of the week. God brother in a God sister. Yeah. I was gonna have you ever heard of a godmother? Do they have to me presence on my birthday again make up your own rules? Didn't know it was a thing to rank friend thing you made the sauce making this. No, wait a minute. You rake your own friends and family in your phone and has they deserve it. Right. But you kinda shot it out like we would all go. Oh, yes. The God sister. I have never even heard of that. I'm I'm the king of Mandalay bay. I don't know if you guys ever knew that. Was there a ceremony? God's not yet. It's coming though, titles are gonna make the rankings ceremonies. A key. Again. I haven't thought about that. I'm just saying if if you're gonna tell me that you rank your friends and your phone, I don't wanna get a agree for God sister. All right. All right. But the key is a ceremony he had a ceremony. So you can have that you know, you can have the type of relation with someone to be official for you to be able to talk about it and back it up you have to have the ceremony. That's so I can joke, and I'm the king men lay. But there was no ceremony so ceremony. I'd have to have a ceremony and since I know I can't then I think you can really why not. Media. It's Sunday football, right? When it's packed. We open up the windows, and we say, hey, everybody, see this guy. He's the king of Mandalay bay raise your your glasses. Everybody. A crown on your head. And you be the king. We do that every every major of Ed by the way, like not not every weekend, obviously. But every major event that day or whatever to do it and get through spas. Otherwise, you gotta pay rounds. He'd be like Paul. I am the king. I like that. That's good. Good thinking. All right. Well, March thirtieth folks is when the headed to Philly just to kind of round out that little conversation that we had earlier the UC's got a really really hectic schedule in two thousand nineteen we suggest you go to remain junkie dot com. When you have a chance, cook, the rumors tab, and we got it all outlying, they're not just UC. But Bela Tor one championship NFL, all of the major organizations that are out there throwing on shows credible shows great fighters there in our rumors tab, the ironic things I think Eddie Alvarez fights the next day at one championship. Yeah. He had a pretty funny tweet about it March thirty first and that young lady that that subdued the would be mugger pollyanna Vienna. That story just blew up on him may junkie that was an Libertad show was quoting him and may junkie, and what were the other ones buzz, you know, TM. Mzee, but she's already got a fight booking. She's got Hannah ciphers at UC to thirty five here in Las Vegas and here's another booking. Check this out. Most hardcore fans are gonna dig it. The casual fans going to be like, you know, what I mean? But I love this by booking of Charles all of our versus David taymor. You've see on ESPN plus two in Brazil. These are just too quiet guys that have winning streaks in a hectic division, which is one hundred fifty five pounds. And the winner is gonna have a lot of shine on them. I think it's one of those fights where you're going to see a certain moment. And if it doesn't happen you're going to this. This just got interesting take sorry to interrupt something that won't be on junkie because it got tweeted only twelve minutes ago, but it's close to our show a close to you guys. All Joe Joe lows on we did got the official cured call today. No, more cancer talk. No, more neuroblastoma. This wasn't a surprise. But it was still great to hear. What was really good to hear was the any kind of goes on. But it's on his Instagram. Yeah. Oh, I thought they baby had defeated that years ago. So I came back as it wasn't official. That's why said it wasn't surprised the official, call the cure. It car. Joe is on. That's great news. That is really really great news. But I say he retires second when you said is it him because the baby thought had had, you know, recovered fully. But yeah, that is great news. There is that is one of the nicest people in all of main Joe is on. So that is good news. Ricky Simone draws Hania in abandoned about a UC to thirty four in Melbourne Australia. And then I mentioned earlier in the show caroliina Cova cabbage. She is facing Michelle Waterson. Adt that card in Philadelphia, right? It's the top of the hour break. I did hear back from burns. So we'll see what we can do to reshuffle things here. It's don't finish in three stay close. We'll be back in about ninety seconds. Thank you. Getting everyone. I am run delirious here with the coach awry. I'm the host with the most ringing out three incredible wonder physicians all the way from North Atlanta. Georgia plays stop clapping has now. Migo? Tell your boss to reschedule that meeting. Call your wife and teller lunches off. It's time for more intimate junkie radio with gorgeous, Jordan goes. All right. It's the beginning of the second hour here junkie radio coming to you live as of this past Monday. So here we go. We got a really really cool. So lined up the first hour, we were kind of discussing the latest news in mixed martial arts. And now, we got some interviews lined up. We're starting off with a killer. But devastator Dominic Ray is debuted in the UC and has quietly gone four. No in the UC. He really sorry. Mid two thousand seventeen I remember I was excited because he was a Kelly guy, and he debuted in then I couldn't believe I had to read my is a few times to realize he's already at four. No in the ten in overall in that big win over Vincent Pru for sure. Now, we know, hey, this guy's top ten closing on top five material. And now, he's got Volcan Ozdemir. So folks write that name down and start, you know, if you're looking for the new wave of fighters to ride that train, you know to be a fan of because they can't fight forever and someone we're gonna stop. Retiring, and this is one guy that I think you wanna get behind. And he's a he's all around athletes got a wrestling background, and he can strike, man. He really really has some devastating kicks. Plus, he's a fan of the LA Lakers. So how can you not love this guy? His name's Dominic. Reyes joins us now. On hotline. What's up Dominic? How're you doing? Just driving around right now. Hey, how did you? How did you get swept under our radar man? I knew who you were you were winning. But that's four wins in the you have seen like seriously in two thousand nineteen you get past volcanoes Demere next thing. You know? It's it's Uber's Jones. Right. I mean. Sienese get behind you a little bit more. That's the plan with this London. Fight year come against ovo. Can I think for me is going to be a statement statement fight kinda come out there and? Really show division. What's up the guy should be worried about? Yeah. And you have been doing that. Because you have a eight out of ten of your winds happen finishes. I man, you know, what I almost need to know. Yeah. I need to apologize myself. How how did I let this just happened? You know what I mean? Very very subjective. I'm very very I like professionalism all the time. So I'm not one of them guys. That says, oh, yeah. I I have favorites. And my favorites are the Kelly folk calories. You know what? I mean, this guy should be a guy that's been on our show at least seven eight times. We should be talking him up. He's beating Jared cannon ear. He's beating Vincent impro-. He's undefeated. He's a finisher. What more do we want? Holy cow. And now, you're right. He got volcanoes Demere in London. Dominic man. Do you see two thousand eighteen is the year that you could you could be competing for world title, or do you want to take it slow? What's your protest? Where is two more fights in the title? So I mean by the end of the year, maybe December fight for the title that that seems realistic to be honest. Do you want it to be Jones when you get there? Dominic or does it do you do? It matters. I want I I would love to be the guy to dethrone Jones spend the plan all. If if I'm a fan, and I'm hearing that I get even more excited. This guy's not running away from the challenges love it. All right. Dominic. Reyes. Dominic contract wise. It seems like you're right around that area where maybe you could be seeing a new contract. And anytime there's a guy with an undefeated record. They have to kind of play that game. Right. Can you fill in where you're at? And what you would like to do as far as your contract when that does come up. Well. I mean when you when your contract comes up, and you want to get paid, especially when you're in defeated. But yeah, I'm gonna get paid man, I wouldn't fight, and I wouldn't in dramatic fashion. So because you have pay close sorry to interrupt because you're so close getting a win keeps undefeated keeps you moving forward. But do you feel that little bit of pressure that may be getting a win and having a stamp on that wind can even bump you up a little bit more? Absolutely. I mean, it's all about performances in UFC. I mean, you guys jump over time. But I think I think that that that stamp on. It is is kinda my trademark, man. I like to, you know, have no doubt in the minds of anyone watching the fight that I won that fight. I like what you said about one in its stuff against Jon Jones wanting that fight but going back a couple of months ago when Daniel Cormet was the champ there, did you feel like that as well? Like, you would have preferred to face a guy like John Jones. Or was it just a matter who who the champion was like back. Then was it. I want pizza Cormie, or did you always want to kind of have this this fight with John jobs? Jones. I started fighting twenty twelve so I mean look at that Jones the guy then and I've been kind of training for me in time. Well, yeah. That's kinda. Yeah. Eight. Yeah. So this is what I said, I think it was yesterday. Or that before I felt like we know Smith got next. He's playing the game. All right. He's playing the John Jones Arcadian I'm going to school here with this reference and Corey Anderson put quarter up there. He says I got the winner. But what I did mention in this before I even knew we were going to book was I go be careful with a guy like Dominic is because if raise wins he make it in front of for Anderson. You know what I mean, coy Anderson? He's sweat his next fight. Now, Corey Anderson is wife's gonna give birth around March all respect there. He doesn't want to rush into a fight or anything. Exactly. But that you know, this is a business. And this is a sport that doesn't wait for anybody. So coriander says X move will have to be very very calculated. He'll have to have a good performance the guy like Dominic Reyes is can come in and snag that. And you know, what I'm starting to get excited about two five again just talking about some of these names out there still is wreckage. We had a great debut from. Johnny walker. So hopefully, two thousand nineteen is the return of light heavyweight. I agree. I hope so I mean, I hope to bring it bring it bring the life back as well, man. I've always looked at light heavyweight in really been like, well guys are pretty powerful. They could use some serious damage and division kinda fell off. And I'm happy to be part of the new riding crop of heavyweight out there ready to put it on the line for you guys. Dominic Ray is our guest here on MA junkie radio. He's facing volcanoes the mirror. You've see fight night on ESPN. Plus that's coming up on March sixteenth in London. When the fight analyst, Dan, Tom what you got for Dominic. Reyes man. Well, maybe it's because it's my job to watch tape. But I'm different from my co host here man, you've been on my radar since day one at least from the USC. I have course, I'm not just saying it to say because you're on the phone. I, of course, became aware of you with the viral knockout. But here is going to parlay into my question for you. Don, here's here's what I was. Why was impressed? It wasn't. Because of that knockout that knockout your first yo see fight caused me to go back and watch what I could from you. But it was. Pass fights, man. There was watching things like anybody can get a flashy knockout. Yes, you have athletes which is enough to make you stand out in your division or any division. Let's be honest. But what impresses me the most was watching you ride position? Being smart went to bail went to commit the things that you you seem way beyond your ears. So my long winded question to you here. Dom what age or when was it for you that you realize your natural ability for fighting because you came from football and other athletics, if I'm correct and also when was it that your coaches and people around you, which I'm sure that people notice that you had a natural proclivity for this fighting stuff. Probably right after the draft in twenty twelve I started training, and I may. I noticed that. I was kind of built better for the may than football. Long limbs tall athletic, you know, powerful. But still light at the same time. I think on the in twenty eleven I didn't really know how to throw a punch, man. I didn't. In twenty twelve. Like, Wow, I've never done any kind of formal striking ever. It's all based 'em as stuff like, you know, people learn how to learn how to cook off a food network. Uh-huh. He didn't even watch boxing talented, where I could I could take everything and learn from it, I can watch things. Learn from it and actually perfect technique that way, that's my football background though. I believe in watching film. That is definitely clear out of the anybody's are you in that you can you can do the damn thing. But just to be clear, did you even watch like boxing or mixed martial arts before before twenty twelve prior even just as a fan. The similar not really. Wow, that's super that's super resume. Just last one. For me. You mentioned obviously the football Craig me from around. Did you combine with the forty Niners by chance was that was that was I reading that correctly? With the jet. I was in New York playing ball for Stony Brook. Came in like going to the Gulf rains with Dominic and he's just like, what do you do swing this thing? And like three years ladies wearing a green jacket. Yeah. I mean, I've always natural ability for a good wrestler, and I've three other brothers. My eldest brother Alex Rae as he fought my carry on short notice. So we got two brothers in the UFC. So it's kind of always been we just fight with each other. I noted earlier your fan of the Lakers. Tell me what you think we're we've got the fourth best record in the Western Conference. Could this be the year that we actually sneak in and maybe get to the conference finals or am? I being a little optimistic. I slow down a little bit. I see is anything's possible with the Braun. I mean, you never know especially being this close. Like, I turned it up. So get healthy. I we'll be good. Yeah. I had a feeling we could be like the sixth ranked team seventh-ranked team. But I couldn't believe it. When I looked Niki relating. Number four, and that means we would get a home playoff series. And and they just keep getting better and better and LeBron is pretty special, man. Like, I think he's been the eight straight finals. I mean, he's lost a lot of them. But still just to get to that dance. Pretty damn impressive. Now, he's also on his back. Yeah. Yeah. For sure who do you got in the Smith Jones fight? I mean. Yeah. Win. I think. Okay. All right, there you go. That's what I wanted to hear was he has a victory. All right. Smith Topi predator, dude. He throws those hands. I mean if he just goes out there and throw caution to the wind. He might have a chance, that's my opinion. Tell me tell me off year. I was saying earlier that to be Jones, you gotta get them within the first ten minutes or so maybe fifteen just see like it's a tough puzzle to solve as it just goes on. Because he he really does have a pretty good fight, I q and he's got a lot of experience. I mean, if thrown everything every body type is way, every type of fighter, you know. And he, you know, he's been in just these big big fights any always rises the occasion. But I like a guy like Smith, for example, does we've seen them. I some people early. I'm thinking that that might be his best bed. It's just go strong and go hard for ten twelve fifteen minutes. He knows where he's strong, and he knows he should use that to the bandage. Joe's you gotta look at this. He has a master strategist and his corner. He's really good at following the game plan. So first of all you need to understand that. How would you be yourself? And then you have to be able to adapt just like he adapts mid-fight. And then you can't. And then you go to like f the John Jones Lor, you know, what I mean forget that. He's he's just a man fight him. Don't be scared of him. You know what? I mean. I think those three things you could be Jones. I mean, I'm gonna be Jones if nobody else does. There you go. Like that right confident dominating everything's spot on that's the way, you gotta do it was because you could tell he kept the real. But at the same time, he's not pussyfooting around. He's here to be a world champion. So good stuff there. Dominic. I like it. Thank you. All right. You ever come to CPI? It'll. And you all the time. I'm going to Mars. No ship. He done messed up dominant. Yeah. Yeah. You messed up. I'm gonna tell you why we would like for you to pop in and co hosted episode with us sometime, I don't know tomorrow's too. But if you're if you're constantly. We'd like to learn a little bit more about to these dodgers these Lakers growing up in so cow football that stuff these spots are only like ten twelve minutes long. And so we talk a little bit about the fight. But I really like it when fighters coming we just had Curtis milliner milliner coasting yesterday, and we get to learn so much more about you guys. And sometimes I feel like the fighters themselves at the hustle a little bit more. But as media, we can definitely go in different routes in our route on him and made junkie radios had been the gift fighters in our studio and have them coast the episode with us. Sounds awesome. I'd like to do that the invites there will be in touch if tomorrow too soon. All right. We get it. But, but if you you know, on other occasion, your schedule clears up, we'd love to have you brother. Awesome. How nice night thanks for the interview. You guys you guys later talking. I see you two. At Dom Ray is Twitter handle give them a follow. Folks. This guy is really really a great great fighter and he's off to an impeccable. Start at ten no overall eight no in the see. Sorry four no the UC. And now he's got a big big fight. That's what Smith over was beating Volkan. So all can you know, he needs. He needs to hold onto what he's got to. Otherwise, all these young guys. We're talking about are gonna pass them up. He's part of that future for that division. Really? When you know, the guys at the top of your take them out these guys would it would be a really fun division. These would just be battling. Yeah. He's twenty nine is bowl. Cancel he's still time. All right. Give me an update. Josh we able to connect with Gilbert burns that was actually standing by pulling back the curtain a little bit. If you wanted a break, we could get him after the break or I could call them right now he standing by. Okay. Let's do the little break. We can get one of the two breaks done. And then when we come back, we'll be talking to Gilbert raise don't touch that dial semi radio, I'm fighting nation channel ninety. In force them to a tire undefeated from a with a record of. Oh, oh, they are gorgeous, Georgia and go and this is intimate junkie radio. NBA fans, you gotta put it on NBA radio. The Milwaukee Bucks are playing the Houston Rockets. Enjoy all the action from the hardwood on NBA radio series. Two seven x eighty six and streaming on your phone and at home on siriusxm connected devices and speakers, thank you. Dominic grey is for his time shot up to Steven Morocco for lining up. Our next guest is Gilbert burns Gobert burns got to win in December of two thousand eighteen he defeated a live EA OB in mercy, and he's looking to get on the Philadelphia card. If you follow him on Twitter, you can tell that. That's that's right up there, man. He says I liked that follow him on Twitter at Gilbert duty. No, all right. Let's get them on here. What's up Gilbert? How you doing man? I'm good. How you doing? Good. Thank you for asking. All right. Great way to end two thousand eighteen with that win over. Oh, AM Olivier in Marseilles. He's a tough guy, you know. And you got the win. Two and one in two thousand eighteen you've won three of your last four. And now you're looking to get on that Philly card. I got that. Right. So the thing is I don't like to so much. I mean so far for fight and the field. His tourist flying. Like, the all the CD star. You know, L see two other. They them. It says. Yeah. So I like it. So now just looking for the pointy, but pretty pretty on that car loved that dates. So what does Shawn Shelby or who's your who's your matchmaker? Mc Maynard or Sean. Shelby. Shelby. What if Sean Shelby, text you and says, all right hotshot? I saw your Twitter. You wanna fight on Philly? Who do you wanna fight? What do you tell them? What he takes them back. I don't know like anybody. But I I they come on mind cease to Joe much best. John mcdevitt. See? Okay. Yeah. I like that. Yeah. Here, but I'm not I'm not asking five. For like a boarding chips. I gotta make that gotta make sense for leave for the guy for the you know for the company. So I think you'll be like interest matchup, and they suppose fighting Canada. I think he got hurt. I kinda follow. Always nothing serious backing traded pretty soon. So yeah, I think that's what makes a lot of. These also won three of his last four. So he's kind of in the same situation as you. So I like you, and I think that usually I think that usually gets the job done when the athletes are like you, and they voice enthusiasm for being on a card like you did for Philadelphia on March thirtieth, and then you can tie in the name or two man next to you know, they start the door start to open. You know what I mean? I'd love to see that fight. If I'm being honest. Even think too. I kind of do so much do scenario in kinda do a lot of reprimands or have priming. They stand that fate. Cannot pull them person. I gotta make comed- for heat forty UC. You don't forty days and the makeup be nice. So the the only thing that they gotta know if you need letter know her I thought. I follow. He so I saw coupling Luke they help today. So why not my call him on like nicely? But. Might call. My call him on pretty. While you're doing it right now. Because trust me writers, they love these types of headlines. So I think you're actually taking care of two things in one shot here by doing the interview mentioning his name. He's on our show quite frequently. I don't think he'll take it disrespectful at all. He likes challenging himself and your seven UC fourteen and three overall Sierra respectable opponent for him. Be like talking sheet. I'm just asking fighter could fight, you know, nothing to have respect for. I think he's very he's a guy. Very great father so couple he's fights. And if he fights makes that's it. That's all I'm not being respectful. If if ask your phone fund that's respectable. So that you know. No, I understand. All right, Gobert Burns's, our guest here on MA junkie radio. Like, I said earlier he is seven three in the you have he's fourteen and three overall and he's got one three of his last four fights including the last one over Libya in. At UC thirty one the fight cartoon place in Toronto Canada tonight, max Holloway, defeated Brian Ortega. All right. So the fight analysts, Dan, Tom, Dan, what do you have for Gilbert burns? Hey, Gilbert, I'm looking here during the Graham, and you know, I see a picture of your friend, Kamara obviously, you guys have trained together. And I know you've you've helped Comoro I'm sure with with with a grappling aspect. Let me ask you a as far as Kamara skills. Obviously is a is a really good wrestler a great fighter, but as far as jitsu skills. Can you tell us something that maybe would surprise us that we don't know is he like a lot of wrestlers and dizzy, mainly focus on more writing and stalling positions or does Camara who have some submissions that you think would surprise the general public Gilbert? Being train you'll be trained. Forget it five years five or six years, and the guy the thing that that impressed me so much is either blue guys always improving every single flight. He'd be driven heaping sofa table, you spent hours and history is very good. A lot of people don't know. But he he he's a ground better GT trees under George Santiago hates may coach edgy in ROY. He he has natural Bill like for fight. He he just a stall he has rarely troll gonna apart by next couple of trade that we trained more. Over four card the pizza when he forced issue where I wanted to guy and they say diesel side with so we both want by knockout. But he was the guy who will help each other that same because he was fighting fighting. I was longer than me that would jail time. So great so hard to get get him into submission, and it'd be helping a couple couple of fights nothing. But like. Pushing that day might you was she up here the whole mug and eat hearts get the guy Lewis initially that very good like wrestling based in his leg, you say this study. He's always learning very different levers, very they're did in. I might say almost impossible to submit. Wow. That's awesome to hear and just one last one from Gilbert another fighter, obviously, you have experience with your brother. Herbert burns. Congratulations to him. He's recently coming off a win. Can you? Tell us anything what's next for him. Or is there anything you can share in that department? Yeah. Titus we Bill long week after my fight. It just went on to Kazakhstan and gotta also performance the guy that lesion like dry on buffalo handle. And together over the next tyrant car tired and car they would be if Florida March I think in the second week could to ward. The florida. So yeah, he's already packing training guy. I think we like to play that all the on like things for Clement aggressive, and he got all the guys. Thanking co I think he'll be getting on a couple of weeks. Maybe three billion go. She's very more doing the may be as Dana. White industries would be back on swing. They he got a couple of least rake you'll be debt you. All right. We're talking to Gilbert burns right now goes would you rinse Gilbert, you got some mental going into two thousand nineteen in regards to two thousand nineteen what m may New Year's resolutions. Did you make for your career? A lot. I would-i. I wanna give in this tweet. Your bet you sure. Hopefully, I can get three weeks that that's that. That's the main goal for this year and largest with the we we we know what the statement went. That says she there's more supporter for me. I'm always being the fight. Is twist back like the enemy expect and says, well, I don't like the, you know, too boring fights like I wanna get like, you know, like cook performance domination that. That's why I'm looking forward to be pricing on my fight. If with gather finish like there wasn't on. My last flight, I just wanna perform like all dumb nation ofen drive to finish the guy. He's that that that that first minute towards the last the last round, I'm well, I wanna be things. My my New Year's resolution together. Three Foley strike, but to the top team. You know in making that is easy. I wish all fighters said what you just said. I wanna fight three times this year. It seems like a lot of fighters are either fighting one two if we're lucky. Nah, man like like Curtis. Milliner was our guest yesterday. He fought four times in two thousand eighteen Israel Awda Sonya, he fought for four times in two thousand eighteen so you gotta get in on one of those early ones and. Hopefully, you stay healthy. But I think three's a nice number. But I can live with two. But man, there's a lot of fighters that only fight once. It's tough because it's tough to stay relevant because there's so many great fighters out there. Sure. And the other thing too. I think he will mentally anytime gets a fight for sure let's go through four. I let ahead fourteen games because they had the camps to fight easier here in London with the completion fully out and so forth camps, and they had three fights floods. Also reprimands the Kasai Larry find two week couple couple of grappling match that keeping busy. But I I love the. Yeah. I love the competition because even even with that launch thing hookah, I kind of let us hope from that laws like. I think any type of competition for your meat put me on that you levels. Fires a personal and I would say four or five year, but Bill there four fourteen kids, then a hand less. My body was beat up by awesome. We don't boomer CEO was go Webuye was three threes. Three five. Good just I just thought of that too. Those camps are brutal. It's easy for us as fans and media go. Yeah. Yeah. Fight three or four times, we get it. We forget about the eight week training camps the weight loss. Strict, you know. Great number. We we the we'd all the peparation. We we the fight with little celebration with little rice back to healthy enough time. All right. Well, let's even get you on the fight card in Philadelphia. Gilbert burns was John mcdevitt. I love it. Hopefully it happens. And I wanna thank you for being on the show. It was really fun talking to you Gilbert. So we appreciate your time. Thank you guys ever do the show a lot. Thank you. So we appreciate that common. All right. We'll talk soon my man and follow him on Twitter folks at Gilbert duty. No. So it's Gilbert like his name, and then D U R N H O. Let them know you heard him on the at ever may junkie radio show the quick break. I know Anthony Smith is ready to go. You're listening to remain junkie radio on fight nation channel eighty three. Stay close. We'll be right back. Your one stop shop for the best. Brew wrestling and boxing is right here. Sirius XM fight nation channel ninety three. They can drink mentos flavored diet coke without their stomachs giving a single fuck. They are gorgeous towards and goes, and this is Emma made chunky radio. Sirius XM is giving our subscribers and opportunity to go to land for Super Bowl fifty three grand prize winner will receive a trip for two tickets to the game. Plus you have an opportunity to serve success official blog reporter for rules to enter go to siriusxm dot com slash Super Bowl. Do that before January twenty third. No additional purchases necessary. The NFL is defined in the Fisher rules have not offered or sponsored this week stakes in any way. Our next guest is a beast. He had a hell of a year two thousand eighteen especially when he made them move up to light-heavyweight skidding people all over that octagon, choking them towards the end of two thousand eighteen and that he was rewarded with a shot at John Jones light heavyweight title at you've see thirty five. He joins us now on the hotline Lionheart, Anthony Smith. How you doing man? I'm doing great, man. How you doing? Good. Congratulations on getting the title shot versus John Jones. That is going to be an amazing night here in Las Vegas on March. Second. I'm sure you're still on cloud nine. Yeah. Little bit. My nose to the grindstone pretty hard. You know, there's not a lot of time to sit around and and and feel good about myself. We gotta we gotta fight to get ready for them. We got a big challenge in front of us. And I'm looking forward to a man I really am excited. Let me ask you two questions, and I'll turn it over to the guys and these are going to be a little off the wall. Hopefully, you're with me, though, when you lost a Caesar for era, July two thousand sixteen dollars second fight in the first you lost your second. Remember what that felt like, and what did you think about where your career was headed? Did you have any doubts? Like, man. Do I belong in the like, can you remember your mindset that night? Yeah. I remember what everything lost feels like. I remember exactly where I was. My biggest thing is been. When are we gonna figure this shit out? Like, I I know that I I knew then, and I know I knew what then as much as I know. Now, I ha- I have the abilities to be the world champion. I know it I feel it. I feel it in the gym. I feel it in my in my heart. I, and I I know it, and I believe it, I truly believe in myself. And and, you know, all this time just for whatever reason, it's like, you know, I'd get one thing together. And the something else would fall apart fix that. And then something else like I got this like, I'm driving a fucking hoop. Dee all the time and every time we fix something. So far. I'd like to compete, right? That's how you know. Like, you fix it. And something else breaks fixing. It's like God team. Why can't figure this out? And you know that it's the same thing with the Santos loss. And February like it's just things were falling off, you know, and. Just a terrible spot to be when you feel like you're when you know when your heart that you're good enough to be a world champion though that you're good enough to hang with these guys at the top. And and you're right there with them. And then every time you get there. You just can't put it together. I it's it's so depressing him it really is. Yeah. So that's what I was gonna say you you the hoop? The put it together. You added a piece you won three in a row after the fair loss and then just less than one year ago? Anthony Smith, you'll loss to the AGA Santos. I I remember seeing a tweet from you. And and you know, you I mean, obviously, you take these losses hard. But what was it that drove you where you knew, hey, I can still keep adding pieces to the hoop Dee, and and you know, have an save the year. You know, a lot of people would be like, oh, man. It's two thousand eighteen not even going to be my year. But look at the year, you had man these are some hall of fame names, marisha Rashad Evans, and then you got one of the toughest to fivers. Front of you in volcanoes Demere and boom three finishes. That was an amazing turnaround. Yeah. I just I just I I know that science sounds cliche. Minute sounds lame. But I I just don't I'm not letting anything stop me. I'm not I don't I I've said he does is far back as shit who knows two thousand fifteen you know, like two thousand fourteen baby with the whole strike force thing before that like, yeah, I'm gonna be a world champion or I'm gonna die trying. And and I believe that one hundred percent like I'm going to be a world champion, or I'm gonna be the first guy to die in the gun trying and in in and I believe that. And I'm okay with that, you know, and I've made peace with whatever, I gotta lose whatever. I gotta sacrifice to get there. I make peace with it. I'm good with it. Anthony, the major. The radio. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Oh, you go. You know, the the it was tough and it, but that's it. That's a lot to me because I knew going into that fight that I wasn't one hundred percent from the white car. I knew that. I wrecked myself. And I knew that it was gonna be a that that was gonna be a bear. And I knew that what I done to myself that there's no way fight at that level. And and nine times out of ten it's not gonna go your way, no matter what I'm gonna go out there and do it. So you know, when I left Brazil, I knew I wasn't gonna see hundred five pounds again. Anthony Smith, our guest here on MA junkie radio. He fights John Jones at UC to thirty five on March second here in Las Vegas. Thirty one wins in his professional career twenty eight finishes fellows, that's an incredible run. And how about this to win streaks of three in his last fight? He's won six of his last seven and he's fourteen into in his last sixteen. That's because he had an eight fight win streak. So he's been killing it an incredible year in two thousand eighteen after that Santeals Las moves up the light heavyweight and goes three, and oh, and that's how he got this shot. All right goes, what do you ever Anthony Smith, and we've interviewed a lot of people who were getting ready to fight John Jones, but they all had different motivations. Some of them said I'm doing this for the money. Other set I'm doing it. Because I want that belt and a few of even said, I just wanna knock that smile office faith, which one are you? Title. I want to try to whether it's you know, when I started this Ron John Jones wasn't JP. So, you know, being the first person to to be able to hand John Jones is is is I legitimate loss is is huge motivator. And that's definitely something. That's gonna summit my legacy, obviously, financially and career wise. It's going to propel me that's going to submit my legacy. People are always gonna talk about that. But at the end of the day, this whole journeyman has been about being the world champion, it it. That's all it's been about. It's been about for that one moment in time. You know, who knows how long it lasts those long. Keep it. But my goal is is to get it. And and how that Bill wrapped around my waist by Dana white, and and to here in new, and that's what my motivations. It's not personal John. It's not this. This is strictly. This is strictly my dream. This is what I've been pushing for since I was seventeen. I've heard you talk about how you think you can be John Jones and all the stuff you said made so much sense to me. I thought it was brilliant. Some of the things you were saying, but I guess my question for you is it seemed like it was coming from a guy who's already thought about the game plan of fighting this guy like in other words when you got the announcement. You're fighting John Jones. I don't think you sat down said. All right, guys. Let's come up with I feel like you already had the game plan right in that assessment is something that you've been thinking about for a long time. This particular match up your. When Michael bisbee was getting ready to fight league rock hold or not. We was getting ready. Find air Silva, Michael business always wanted to fight here. So because he just felt like he had that that certain style that he felt matched up really well with Anderson Silva, and Michael talked about that a lot about how we thought that. He he could be the one to do it, regardless of how he did all these other fights, whatever losses this guy air, some beat back whatever he felt like he had the right style. And he was the right person to do it. And that's how I feel you know, John Jones I've been talking about John Jones sin probably since June. You know, I've been this isn't an accident that ended up here. And I'm not surprised, you know, I know that everyone's kind of pretending like, I'm being gifted something. And that I'm just you know, I it was just up in the air knowing what was going to be like I knew I was gonna fight Jonjo the same as I got beating Ozdemir that was the whole motivation in fighting to mirror. What I didn't wanna fight that early. I want. I I wanted. A little bit of a break. But I also knew the John Jones is probably going to become a back, and I wanted to position myself at a place to where I was going to get that. And being the number two in the world at the time, it almost guarantees it. And there wasn't a whole bunch of clear contenders. So I've been thinking about John Jones since since you know, June. Dan, Tom or fight analysts? What do you have for Anthony Smith? Hey, Anthony, another good reason. Why it seems that a twenty eight teen was good year? It looks like you've got your black belt Brazilian jujitsu. Correct me if I'm wrong. I did I did. Awesome, man. Thank me. A huge was a huge accomplishment for me that was was one of the proudest moments of ever had. I know that people talk a lot about my ground game. How don't have one? And and whatever, but you know, like, we're not doing ju jitsu when we're fighting. You know, like, I'm I I can separate the two and a lot of people can't do that. Or don't do that in and Maija jitsu game in the fight way different than it is in the key. But I I mean, it's real easy to look up my jitsu credentials. I mean, I've never entered a tournament. Not in not medalled. You know what I mean? I just wanted to Chicago open and and the whole open division. So it's not like, I can't grapple. It's just a lot of times. She's not too. Yeah. No, definitely. I think you have underrated grappling. And that's something. I'm willing to stand by putting a writing anytime. I cover you Anthony. But when when I was coming across that photo was on your Twitter. And I noticed you Twitter didn't have the blue checkmark anymore. And I couldn't find your Instagram we victimized by some kind of social media thing or what happened there, man. No. So we changed my we change my Twitter handle because I wanted the problem that we run into all my all my handles were different. So I wanted I wanted a little bit more continuity like I wanted my Instagram handle in my Twitter handle tobacco. And so my life changed when it changed by Twitter handle, it it took away my verification, so honestly, give shit about that. So my managers working on it with Twitter. They're trying to figure there. It'll be back shortly just takes time. So I lost checkmark, which is which is whatever. But I actually got a three day Dan on Instagram. So I should be. Nice. Everybody's gonna know who who you are soon enough. Even even the Casuals last one for me, Anthony, I I don't want to stir things up, and I know fighters ever go no fighters ever, go into a fight one hundred percent. But I do remember on the desk when this was kind of being floated loosely in the post fight UFC two thirty two which by the way, you killed it on the desk, sir. But I do remember you saying something about you wanted to you know, he'll up a few things can you elaborate on that? And and do we have anything to worry about for for your March date with Jones? No, no, no, man. I'm good. I I tore a tourist small ligament, and my wrist in those Demere fight just, you know, they'll do hits hard, you know. And it's it's just from punching. You know, I was in a cast all up until two days before I went on a desk. I was in cast up until my Arp for my for my thumb all the way to my armpit. But I got it off in well with the role that we we went through all the testing, and and all that stuff. And I'm good to go. All right. Anthony will hey, man. I hope you have a safe camp. And I guess we'll be seeing a few weeks for of C two thirty five. Congratulations, you deserve it. And I can't wait to see this fight. So thanks for doing things. We're doing our show is always no worries many time. I think it'd be in Vegas towards the end of the month. So maybe I'll start by be cool to hang out with you guys person into don't hang out. Yeah. We'd love that man. All right. We'll keep in touch. We'll see we can get in here. We'd love to have you you take care. All right. Take care. Anthony. We'll see you. Solid, dude. Very. Yeah. How about that twenty eight finishes out of thirty one win? Yup. Aggressive. Geez, man. Like. Us. No, you got your hands full. All right. Let's finish up with good to bake is. We got a great question here. This one could be all over the place. I don't think this one we're going to be combining and agreeing five thousand three hundred sixteen votes came in. Let's go Weaver's. All right. Most people wanna see Jones and Cormie a and then Habib versus McGregor and then third place newness versus cyborg and in fourth place. It's other. But here's the question rematch is the theme if you could only pick one rematch guys to see this year. What is it? Dan Tom leadoff. I'm surprised here. A obviously you said so yourself other came in the least votes, which usually other does right guy. That's maybe not a surprise. But what came in third in the least of these aided options was my pick newness. I I think that's the only one that makes the most sense, you know. You know, the other guys have other options, and I think we could live without seeing those fights happen, but who else to cyber gonna face and Nunez? She does have to belt. So that technically means she has most off more options and most champions, but even her I don't think there's a big line banging at the door bantamweight. I think that needs to be run back. So I got newness cyborg out. All right. This is the way I look at it. A beep and Connor just doesn't make sense to me. There wasn't anything in that first bite that made me say I gotta feed that again right away. Cormet jones. I've seen it. I could live without it. Okay. Cyborg Nunes, one amended at to defend her other belt. So I'm okay with that. I'm gonna go with other. Here's what I think. It's perfect timing for the the Connor d as matchup. We're always talking about how it hangs out in the wing. Let's do it now to settle it. Now, I thought you were going to go Connor Halloween. You would have came what? What? But I know that everybody would call me out and say, aren't you the guy that says we need to protect these titles, and this and that I would have loved to have seen it at featherweight. Yeah. I thought you were going to say Derek losers gone. All right. So listen, if it's Hobie MacGregor my phone came. But if it's website McGrane are sorry if it's even McGregor. It's tons of traffic where the website the show blows up with listeners. There's nothing like having Connor fight. But act can't say is Jones the Cormie from me. But here I have a whole different take all it's because Cormie is going to retire soon. So all these other fighters like they're in their late twenties early thirties. Like, I feel like we have time maybe cyborg is hinted towards hey, I want to start a family someday. So maybe there's a little bit of on the clock there. But let's say DC extends his deadline self imposed deadline March nineteen or March twentieth. When he turns forty I don't think we'll get pass international fight week. And I want to see them. However, my caveat is it's got to be at heavyweight. Yeah. I was gonna ask you. What are you gonna do when they sit there, and they're talking smack again, we've heard it so many times. No, what are they? Nearly can say, yeah. Yeah. Had the cut to get to you. Now. I'm happy Olga my shoulder. Now, I'm happy and content. And you know, now, this this is the big boy title, he can spin it in some sort of a fashion. Look at them skinny let you say anything he wants to. It's a whole different call me when you're ready that goes the way out with look at that. It's tough I want I want to argue against it. I want to say that that that your option has the least grounds for justification on paper. But the results don't say that do they came in number one. Yeah. Four but said Jones and Cormie and then up even Connors just because those guys have I mean Russia in Ireland. I can't believe injured yourself doing a promo for another fight to other guys the fight. You know, what I was going to declare myself about eighty percent healthy on the shoulder. And that little movement of whatever I did the Kamala, I think so that hurt, but you know, they are all they're all great fights. But I feel like my only argument really stems with the Cormet deadline. You know, if it wasn't for the deadline. I don't know. I don't know why would say newness cyborg. Because it was definitive. And the problem is I wanna man, I I didn't really want a super fight. I'll take them, you know. But but now I want noon as go back and fight VERA. And if she wants cyborg and rest and the newness can come back. But when does it ever go that way, there's always injuries or contract? Hold out. So I know it's not likely but Jones and cormier man, I love Blad, bad blood and think about Jones, I mean, he would make history by being another champ champ one, and then cormier would really make history because that's what stops people from calling him. The goat is the losses to Jones. So now have a win over Jones. I mean, this that would be really really historical. So that that's why would that one. Hey, thanks to all of our readers of the website in the listeners of the show for participating. That's our beloved junky nation, and with that, I guess we gotta start closing things up. So first of all shout out to Steven Morocco. He lined up Anthony Smith nag -nificant dominant grey is he is making. Efficient. And by the way, we gotta get that guy on because he had an interesting article regarding Brock Leser, all the things I was saying is because I read a Steven Morocco article, and he has to pay that two hundred fifty thousand dollar fine to the NSA see before he can even fight cornea. And I believe he's closing in having satisfied the one year penalty that you saw two imposed on them when he tested positive. For performance enhancing drugs at you'll see two hundred. I know some of you are saying wait a minute that was eighteen months ago. It's because when he stepped outside of the U of C the clock stopped, and you have to be continuously tested by you Sada, otherwise, you don't complete, you know, your one year term while you're punishment, or whatever you wanna call it. So that's that. All right. Thanks, the jumbo. Josh did an excellent job. They're juggling the schedule getting all of our guests on thanks to burns Puna. And all these things skies for lining that one up tomorrow. We nothing's official. So I can't say anything other than we'll be here. Tomorrow you can count on it by seven Pacific. Eight to ten eastern Emory radio is live on fight nation Ninety-three at our new time, and it's still a Monday through Friday show. So for Dan and goes and Josh from George haven't I stay go out there and be a champion. Alexa, play fight nation on Sirius XM nation on Sirius XM's for one of the fighters on this planet way. To hear Sirius XM at home including devices with Alexa. Learn more at Sirius XM dot com slash Alexa.

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Magnificent Desolation | Part 4

Apollo 11: What We Saw

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Magnificent Desolation | Part 4

"Every single person honor who had access to a t be set and that would be about six hundred million of US watch the blurry almost surreal image of Neil Armstrong stepping live onto the surface of the moon but after Apollo follow eleven returned to Earth. We got an entirely different view of those first stork moments in part four of what we saw we'll give you the sharp full color view of that one small step from a perspective that no one is shared before we'll watch how one race against the Soviets ended with a win and the one against the U._S.. Congress resulted in a defeat so join us for the journey of Apollo Eleven the seven Apollo missions that followed and decades of disappointments crowded rounded last with a new hope we choose to go to the moon this detained and do the other thing not because they are evening but because they are you five four three two one zero we have thirty two minutes past the hour lift up on Apollo Eleven mm-hmm crank quality we copy on the ground. You got the guys about the turn blue. We're breathing again michaeline looking good here surprisingly the thin hair to a pretty good job out here. We haven't quite got that before the fifty million T._v.. Audience Yeah there have been a lot of great great stage entrances in history but I'm pretty sure that the one made by Neil Armstrong seen by over six hundred million people live on T._v.. Is Not one that's going to be surpassed anytime soon so after final check of helmets visors visors gloves life support packs tools cameras and all the rest all of it within the space of a decent sized standard bedroom closet Aldrin began to depressurize the Eagle. There were no seats in the limb when America landed on the Moon we landed on our feet by God we did six times so now try to imagine to very fit men in their late thirties jam into that closet and each of them are wearing suits the not too far away from the one used by the guy playing these state puffed of marshmallow man in ghostbusters just bending over enough to open the small hatch down at me level between the two standing positions kind of major effort now what was about to happen next was in my opinion the pinnacle of human history that descent down the ladder is so iconic. It's so untarnished it can't be ruined which Kinda makes me feel a little better because frankly when we think of men from planet Earth First Setting Foot upon the surface of another for the world you WanNa believe that Neil Armstrong is on a far horizon stepped manfully out of the darkness of the limb he surveyed the landscape hands on his hips. Perhaps nodded and then walked down the golden staircase it kind of makes me feel a little crummy to be the one the point out that when Armstrong Aldrin and the ten Americans to follow first emerged from their lunar module they did so on their knees crawling going backwards and moving very very slowly in on the board Roger Nail. Everything stayed in here okay. Can you pull it opened on the snail radio check. It's a pretty smart move by Neil there. You know if you've got the entire planet Earth tuned in you probably want to do a sound check before you start the show been loud and clear break break buzzer. His Huston radio check unverified T._V. circuit breaker and no back in that New York Hotel Room Room where I was watching live as a ten year old we still couldn't see anything but right about here. After helping Armstrong out of the Hatch Buzz Aldrin moves to the right window of the leme nets the lunar modules pilot stations where he belongs and he starts rolling Motion Picture Film on which of course we wouldn't see until they returned from the moon. We'd gotten a developed now. The images jumpy for a few seconds then it Kinda stabilizes buzz must have braced himself to steady the image because jiggles just a little bit as he checks the circuit breaker where now from where he standing Aldrin and in the camera he's holding can only see about half of the frame the entire left half the images just black and gray. It's the circular knows of the limb jutting forward blocking the view of the small platform at the top of the letter just outside the hatch called the porch then right at the edge of that diagonally split frame frame. We see a moment of movement. It's a backpack and then as he gets onto the ladder we see just the left forder of Armstrong. We see an arm a leg the backpack the images a little bit dark so aldridge opens it up a spot then the light levels. Come Up Okay No. It's not a squirrel anymore right there on the top of his left shoulder. There's a definite patch of red white and blue. It's a flag are flick. Is Another camera bump. This is Neil steadies himself at the head of the ladder. You can't get a good clear look at his face because you're looking down at him from the limb looking down on the top of his helmet but it's clear that his golden visor is up. You can definitely see that. There's some kind of head inside that Helmet Victor T._v.. No Buzz. They don't have a good picture Aldrin's speaking as a test pilot here when he says you got a good picture that means the Dan things actually working. That's about all you can say about it. I couldn't make any sense out of the digital a great deal of contract in it and currently it's upside down our monitor but we can make out the amount of detail the entire world is watching that live Blurry T._v. image but I wanna stay with what alternate seeing up in the limb he's looking down from the right side of the Eagle. He's filming Neil Armstrong as he's working. The image is still a little bit blurry but it's in color and it is far better than what's coming up from late sixties hand-held T._v. camera at the latter then you can see Neil Armstrong looking down he's holding onto the base of the ladder initially to get a better looked at the four lunar landing pants that only about the on our two inches although the purpose appears to be you're fine grain to get close to it almost like a powder knows we keep watching the footage shot from inside the limb aldred moves little you can see the blurry reflection of his pressure suit moving across across the window neil looking straight ahead and he's looking down. He's in the shadow of the Eagle that shadow stretches up and across the right side of the frame all the way to the top. It's ominous and imposing the shadow that lunar module will then there's a moments too quick beat as if he's rehearsing align he wrote in his head here comes the greatest moment in human history and here is a man speaking as calmly as he possibly could are you can see the tether straining little as he moves slightly to the left. He's looking down now. It has left foot which is invisible below the frame and then you can actually see him shift Tis way you can actually tell from his posture that he's stepping on dust. That's giving away just a little and he does something else. I didn't notice before you can actually wash him. Pushing down maybe five or six times damping down the great talcum powder of the surface the way you would if you're standing on snow. He's testing to make sure it's going to support his weight up in the limb from our point of view Aldrin's reflection is moving across the glass. Armstrong is looking down at his left boot all for man for the first and only time during this entire run of footage Armstrong Lance is up almost to see if buzz got the shot but of course that's just my Hollywood background. Talking Armstrong was looking right at altered in for half a second you can see the eyes of the man who just step off of his spacecraft and into immortality vises Houston to one one sixty seconds per shadow photography on the sequence commer he goes back to work he starts describing the texture of the lunar dust can pick it up with my Pale here and the fine layers <hes> like <hes> powder charcoal and you're what we saw all around the world was barely legible blob moving against a black background as if he really were stepping out onto the stage of history and reading his line but if you watch it from above love you can see all of the nuance the hesitation and then you actually get to watch for a moment as Neil Armstrong prepares himself to step out onto the moon this demystified the entire moment it becomes less iconic chronic becomes less abstract becomes less historic and becomes far far far more human. Neil Armstrong was just another test pilot like chuck yeager and most of the rest of the mercury and juvenile astronauts out at Edwards air for space he naturally enough fell into the small circle of men who had a twenty five percent chance of being killed every time they went up to test a new aircraft. They had their own language. These men had their own insults had their own compliments a lot of it. It was the dark humor that protects you from watching so many people being killed in a seat you just been in or one. You're about to be in Provo on problem. Roger Twelve O one alarm twelve okay we copy logged all aware that he again over emotion and he kind emotion is fatal for men like this when a never before seeing computer error kept reappearing at the worst possible moment during the descent it's the lack of emotion in Armstrong's and alternate voice. That's what's keeping them alive and we'll be right back after message from our sponsor and that sponsor is net sweet. 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It's that kind of moment and it's the only way I kinda explain to you. How it feels during moments like that I was on my dress rehearsal flight for my instrument check ride and by some Miracle Santa Monica Airport was actually I- Afar instrument flight rules meaning that a low cloud ceiling ruled out visual slight references in other words? It was the only time during my entire instrument training that I was Gonna fly into actual weather instead of wearing the hood that I'd worn to keep me looking down at the instruments and not out the window at yet another perfect day in paradise. I flight instructor was in the right seat. We got our clearance. I read it back. We added power and ten seconds. After the wheels were off the runway. We'd entered clouds so thick that I could not see the stubby wingtips tips just a few feet away on the Piper Archer instrument trainer just a puddle jumper really now I reached a certain intersection determined by radio beams and I started right climbing turn towards Burbank between me and that airport where the Santa Santa Monica Hills and they're not really hills may be one thousand five hundred feet high actual mountains and I've driven over them thousands of times. I know there there I started the right turn towards the hills. Climb rate. Look good my turn a bank in Decatur indicated dated a turn to the right but my primary instrument. My artificial horizon told me that I was making a descending turn to the left now at that exact instant I could feel I could actually feel that little red eyed rat of sheer. You're panicked starting to Nibble on my ankles. I turned to my flight instructor. I told him my primary instrument was indicating. Turn in the wrong direction. I looked at him to tell me what to do. He did tell me what to do. Tickets tickets ass is what he said and then in that instant I felt a lever a big one kinda get thrown somewhere in the back of my head. Okay Hanukkah's completely gone now now. All I have to do is kicked the sing in the ASS. I had turned to the right. It felt like we were turning to the right but that didn't mean a thing. Thousands and thousands of pilots have died in exactly that fashion all I knew was that I was flying the general direction of a mountain range and that in every contest between the ground and the airplane the ground has won every single time. Trust your instruments. So what are they telling me well. The simple bank and turn indicator shows turn to the right the far more sophisticated artificial horizon is indicating turn to the left so I look down at the gyroscopic heading into cater and also at the simple compass up there on the Dash. Both of those were showing a turn to the right the artificial the horizon was outvoted. I covered it up with the Black Suction Cup what decisely for this kind of emergency so that it would not distract me with false information now as required by regulations I radioed air traffic control and I advise them that I was an instrument conditions and that my primary instrument had failed so cal departure replied with and I quote Roger Say intentions and what I wanted to say was it I intended that someone on the ground would get a firetruck with a big in ladder and get me the hell out of the stem thing what actually said was that we would continue the I'll s the instrument landing system approach into Burbank which is what we did and there was no moving map. I just had to needles against a black background. I had to keep him centered. It took us just an an instant for us to descend through that cloud layer when we did I looked up and I saw the approach lights of Burbank Airport. Now I was slightly to the left of the centerline and my instructor was slightly to the right of it at that exact instant. I felt like the Lord of all creation if I had not been able to suppress that emotion if I let that little rat get to my knees if I panicked I wouldn't be here. I'd be mixed with small bits of aluminum and a chart spot somewhere on the left where the four or five goes over Sepulveda's pass and I've had three engine failures in single engine airplanes two of those in experimental aircraft and all three of those times I felt that lever getting thrown in the back of my head and that sick sense sense of fear just kind of fall away. I'm alive. Tell these true tales of adventure because my primary flight instructor named Jeff Larkin told me something as we walked out to our two seat grow glider just before my first flying lesson back in Nineteen ninety-one Billy said it's probably never going to happen but if something does go wrong up there you you are GonNa leave that airplane and your reptile brain is going to take over. My job is to make sure the reptile knows what to do. No I'm saying all of this because I want you to understand that emotion is fatal for test pilots and as I said this shows up in the language that test pilots us no one ever said to Neil Armstrong none of his pilot friends anyway okay. No one ever said wow. What an amazing job Neil? We're just so damn proud of you. A colleague might F- he had survived extraordinarily trying circumstances have a chance to maybe under his breath sate Neil Armstrong you sir are are a steely eyed missile man. A big mistakes also have their own sardonic emotionless tone. You didn't crash you offered in you didn't leave a flaming smoking crater on someone's property. You ruined the guys place so your last act on earth was to do the the right thing you bought the farm if you missed up badly and somehow managed to survive well that was like sneaking into your girlfriend's house creeping silently up the dark and stares expertly sliding past her snoring father with a shotgun back at his side and then entering the wrong room and end up screwing the coach. Neil Armstrong was the most steely eyed of missile men during the entire mission. The question for history is did neil screw the pooch when it came meantime to utter the most monumental words human history all fail for man. That's one small step for men. One giant leap for mankind doesn't make any sense in that sentence man and mankind or interchangeable what he intended to say was that's one small step for for a man one giant leap for mankind which is absolutely perfect it Shakespeare coming from an engineer now a half-century later we still reverently report the world's most famous botched line but not too long ago certainly before he died a couple of audio engineers told me alarm strong that they had put some serious computer power into the actual broadcast that he made from the moon those two audio guys discovered what they believed to be an almost instantaneous detainees radio heterogeneous that is when to radio signals are both communicating on the same frequency at the same time they block each other out according to the analysis of these two audio experts Armstrong's a in a man. Dan was spoken but it was actually blocked. We'll see this. Just try saying it out loud for yourself. That's one small step Promahon C._O.. easy to swallow but still say at missing a ought to pick thicker hair now. There's a great film sequence same position up there in the lamb looking down and it's a picture of Neil. He's got his visor up his faces clearly visible for the only time during the entire mission as Aldrin filmed grabbing what was called the contingency sample. That's just a real quick scoop of moon-dust in case some emergency caused them to have to cheese it out of there and his schedule and they're going to stay Gerber but very pretty utter. It's really not much to look at honestly but it's important footage because a moment later Aldrin would stop coming from the lamb as he prepared join join Armstrong on the surface that little clip is important because it's the only time that we can actually make out Neil Armstrong space as soon as Audran stops filming from the Limb Aldrin will perform the bulk of the actions while Neil this almost all the photography in virtually every Apollo eleven image you see of an astronaut on the moon that astronaut is Buzz Aldrin. Neil Armstrong essentially disappears once buzz gets his boots on the move twenty minutes after Armstrong Buzz Aldrin exit the Eagle by crawling back out of the hatch and onto the porch of the Limb Armstrong was there to film this ingred detail farm I the backup partially wasn't joking about being locked out of the lamb either way. If the hatch had fully closed it would have been very difficult difficult. Perhaps impossible for them to get back inside now. That would be the ultimate screw. The Pooch moment in all of human history got the only laugh I personally ever heard from Neil Armstrong on my lamp for the next hour good just like Armstrong before him. My backing out Aldrin is not able to see anything of the lunar surface until the final jump onto the lunar modules foot pat when he's finally able the turnaround the shock of it is just electrifying desolation magnificent desolation. That's exactly right bus. The questions the controversy the analysis Muller Testifies Live all day tomorrow and only Fox News Channel delivers the coverage you can trust when muller contradict his own report. Or reaffirm its findings watch Brandon Martha anchor our all day special coverage plus stay with our prime time is shown Tucker and Laura break it down and weigh in on what it all means for the President Special Coverage Starts Live all day tomorrow. Only on the Fox Fox News Channel Armstrong then walks over to the remote T._v. camera that had taken pictures of him coming down the ladder but he changes the setting on the Lens on now. This new shot is much better through the Gray cathode-tube scan lines. We can see both men. They're standing very close together the right up against the ladder rectify well. That's on the planning girl this lamb for some reason Neil Armstrong's midwestern accent seems to go into full after burner and just for this moment of the planet her time a lot of people both in America and abroad like to characterize us is these mindless jingoistic knuckle draggers waving in our giant foam fingers with we're number one on him while with chanting U._S._A. U._S._A. U._S._A.. But if there was ever a more graceful more humble or more generous message than the one tied to the leg of the Eagle I've yet to hear it here amen from the planet Earth I set foot upon the moon July nineteen sixty nine A._d.. We came in peace for all mankind work opping instruments within placed on the surface a thin poll was hammered with some significant effort into the hard lunar rock underneath the dust and an American flag was put up progressing beautifully <hes> believer betting up the flag it had been stiffened with wire so it gave the general appearance of blowing in the non existent wind now if they hadn't done this would have you simply hung simply from the poll and would have essentially been invisible planting that flag on the moon was the only Cold War victory prayed that we would ever have beautiful Mike early. They've got the flag up now. Bigger it was what the Marines raising the flag on Iwo Jima Mount Suribachi meant to our fathers and mothers. It was proof in this case in living color all the years of effort and sacrifice this all the loss blood and lost treasure spent to make good on a challenge made by a young president who like Lincoln did not get to see the great struggle that we had finally overcome so it's small wonder that after the mission looking back on all of the computer failures close calls the near misses that they had to get to in order land on the Moon Buzz Aldrin stated without hesitation of all the jobs I had to do on the moon the one I wanted to go. The smoothest was the flag-raising now two hours in fifteen minutes may seem like a decent stretch of time for I walk on another planet and it is but one thing that absolutely lutely blew my mind was the size of the ground that the actually cover imagine looking down at a major league baseball time you put the lamb on the pitcher's mound and each leg extends exactly to the circle where the clay meets the grass the entire moonwalk virtually all of it doesn't only take place in the infield virtually all of it takes place inside the baseline. There's one excursion over the home team team Dugout to set up a cameron. There's a little loop just past first base in foul ball territory and finally the single greatest trek by far is a solitary walkabout halfway into right center field to examine the rim of a small crater. That's visit with the limb on the Pitcher's mound not counting that one brief four about twice the distance to second base pretty much. The entire moonwalk takes place inside the clay of the Infield. It's actually we on the grass in the center of the diamond. It's absolutely shocking you know I think looking back on it. History went out of her way to be particularly fair to Armstrong and Aldrin both men landed simultaneously of course but Neil Armstrong was is an forever will be the first man on the moon. There's a curious kind of symmetry at work here for while Armstrong's name became history and then legend the fact remains that all of our memories of that breathtaking event really we belong to altern that ooh print on the moon every single drop of sweat and blood and every single sent that the Apollo program ended up spending could be crystallized forever in that one image of that boot print on the moon was buzz Aldrin's boot that image of an American astronaut crisply saluting the American flag. That's Aldrin to what's rightfully been called the most famous picture in history. It's a man standing casually almost idly on the surface of another world is anonymous due to the golden visor needed to protect his is from the brilliant unfiltered sunlight well. That's Aldrin to now. You can't see his face. If if you look closely there's a word printed on the space suit in that picture of the first moon landing that picture of the space age that picture it's GonNa last as long as humans last and that word is Aldrin so which one would you rather be the immortal name in the history books or the person in an equally immortal picture. Where's the entire idea ridiculous kind of like the idea of one sided coin? Neil Armstrong's name would not have been written without Buzz Aldrin Aldrin's picture would not have been captured without Armstrong behind the camera and that's actually my very favorite thing about that image of an Apollo astronaut on the moon he looked closely. You'll Lsu Aldrin's name but if you look even closer you'll see that Neil Armstrong is in the shot as well is reflected in the mirror like visor. That's how it should be too. I think each man reflecting the other with neither face ace visible as if any one of the three hundred fifty thousand people who powered this journey could be behind that face plate. Maybe it said white behind the Golden Glasser Gus grissom Roger Chaff. Maybe it's the entire human race in that small little bubble wrap up. Maybe it's me in that picture. Maybe it's you Columbia. This is the backup crew or graduation for yesterday's performance are with you for the border the debate bird bearable and then it was not just the mission the entire program the idea of dreams made real the spirit of the space age was over. We just didn't know you about eleven Neilan Buzz climbed back into the Eagle they sealed the hatch. They stowed the samples apples and they prepared for liftoff but while he was trying to find a place for a big bag of moon rocks Aldrin accidentally hit the control console of the leme with this giant sack of rocks and he broke something what he happened to break turned out to be the switch. That's GONNA fire the essence stage to get them back up into lunar orbit rendezvous with Mike Collins in Columbia and then go home. There's a story I've heard I've heard it twice ice from people who actually new Buzz Aldrin and despite all the research I did for this program. I was never able to find out if it's true or not. Actually you know what I don't care. If it's true it's perfect whether it happened or not. I love this story because to me it perfectly captures the different attitude between how we thought during the space age versus how we think today here's the story many many years after the flight of Apollo eleven a young journalist was interviewing buzz Aldrin on television. She'd read about buzz accidentally smashing the switch. That's going to bring them home and then she asked him with the perfect kindness and sensitivity of modern America if buzz began to give some thought to what he would tell his wife and children before the air run during those final moments did he armstrong discuss what their final words to earth would be and would busby willing to share that with this after all these years now according to legend Buzz Aldrin stared at her for a moment is if she'd she'd ask this last question in some kind of foreign language and once he realized that she was serious you supposedly lean forward and said weren't thinking about any last words we try to figure out how to fix the Goddamn switch. I do love that story so Armstrong. Aldrin and Collins all made it home safely turns out felt tip pen was just the right size to close the contact tacked on that broken switch. No there's a picture of Neil Armstrong in the lamb taken by Audran of course just a few minutes after they'd repressurize the Eagle and removed their helmets. I man on the Moon looks tired looks very tired. He needs a shave and probably need to shower as well his eyes appear swollen and read but the look on his face is just transcendental. The is in the smile route those of a thirty eight year old steely eyed missile man. Neil Armstrong looks exactly like a six year old kid seeing a shiny new bike in front of the tree on Christmas morning. It's a real smile but those blue eyes appear to be just a little bit watery kind of first time at Disneyland. Look you just so happy. You don't know what else to cry. I think that photo is one of the most remarkable pictures ever taken of anyone. There's no other photos of Armstrong and even come close. There's joy in that look kind of deep deep fried. You must feel after finally realizing that you've just done the single most difficult task in the history of the world and there's not just pride in those is either. There's an overwhelming sense of relief it. It's strong enough to come forward half a century and still knocked the window six hundred million people that was everyone on unearth could get to a T._v.. Set had watched this one man cherry the weight of all humanity the dreams and sweat of the three hundred seventy five thousand people who worked on project Apollo were with them to as well as the blood of Gus grissom Ed White Roger Chaffee Elliot C and Charlie Bassett any one of whom might have been the person in the picture if luck and timing had gone a different way. Neil looks like a man who has satisfaction having carried all of that wait for all of that time and finish the job without screw in the Pooch Apollo eleven was the first of six lunar landings but something had ended once those parachutes appeared in the sky and Columbia came down in splashed into the ocean space race was over war was oh we want but without that tightly wound spring would would end up shocking all of us Apollo kids who grown up in the space age and thought that this was just the very beginning of an endless adventure and how fast everything could come to an end and disappear like a rocket contrel heading ever-higher fire into the heavens. They're all engines running committee. Liftoff Apollo twelve may have been the worst sequel in show Biz history tranquility base to electric Biglou <hes> yeah there were some decent moments. Apollo twelve got struck by lightning on the way up that was pretty cool although just like the near disaster on the landing of Apollo Eleven. We wouldn't know just how serious that was until many years later what what happened here we actually Apollo twelve got hit twice. The first strike at thirty six seconds not all three fuel cells off line a second strike at fifty two seconds knocked out Apollo twelve artificial horizon indicator under these two lightning strikes lit every warning light in the capsule called Yankee Clipper and every light back at Michigan troll as well. It looked like that crew escape rocket was going to get a chance to be on live T._v.. After all no one at that instant new just how badly Yankee Clipper been damaged all twelve Houston we start getting that platform squared away go I am you power standby and back on we'll hear caged up the electrical environmental and consumables manager notice Z. Common Mission Control was operated at that woman by man named John Erin he alone recognize the pattern of the failures from an earlier test when a power supply on an instrumentation unit just blew a fuse now this is we're the dividends pay off when you treat a flight crew like a group of individuals rather than Technological Army of foot soldiers in tight top-down hierarchy Erin had the confidence in himself and in his bosses from to get on the Mike without hesitation tation and say Huston try S._C._A.. Two auxiliary over this was a long way from a routine failure it had been simulated briefly over a year before but Lunar Module Pilot Alan Bean remembered it somehow when he reached out to find find obscure switch inflicted over to auxiliary fuel cells instantly came back online telemetry began to flow back to Houston and mission commander P Conrad could stop glancing over at that abort button Aaron and beans quick thinking had saved the mission earning the e Com desk jockey and of brownie points to achieve the priceless award of being called a steely eyed missile man in front of the entire launch team being also had saved the mission which was good because a few days later Alan Bean was gonNA screw the Pooch Big Time Alan Bean quite by accident. You understand was about to make Apollo twelve the forgotten landing coming into the picture Nappy F._A.. It now one of the great hypes regarding the second lunar landing was that Apollo twelve not terry those blurry black and white T._v.. Cameras rather new state of the art year that would show the surface of the moon in living living color Conrad being the lunar module intrepid made a brilliant absolutely pinpoint landing just close enough for them to walk six hundred feet or so to visit the unmanned surveyor three lander which had landed back in April of nineteen sixty seven it was the first and only time that humans have been able to visit the space probes the came before them and paved the way intrepid landed in the southeastern corner of oceanus press alarm. That's the ocean of storms now and this particular piece of real estate had been visited three times before Apollo twelve the surveyor three pro from nineteen sixty seven which they examined the Soviet Luna five mission in nineteen sixty five would have made the first soft landing on the moon but the retro rockets failed and it just dug another crater to fly over the ranger missions was accomplished an atlas agena combination from Cape Kennedy. I of them was America's ranger. Seven which in July of nineteen sixty four also crashed into moon but that was the mission plan for Rangers seven it was designed to crash in the Moon Nasr's ranger sevens impacted the moment in a pre-selected target area it also took the first image of the moon obtained from an American space probe and four thousand three hundred more of them as it rocketed into the moon at two thousand three hundred miles per hour the last image recorded objects about a foot wide. This traffic jam in the southeastern end of the ocean of storms had drawn so much attention that the I a._A._U.. The International Astronomical Union Multinational Consortium of leading astronomers which is among other things responsible for approving every single name on every single feature that we discover out in space well the decided cited that after four missions in two craters that particular patch of ancient lava would henceforth be named mayor cognitive the known see now. Unfortunately we didn't get to see that Apollo twelve is the missing mission for so many of us because as being followed Conrad down the ladder to become the fourth man on the moon his first task was to set up the brand new widely hyped color camera but Alan Bean who understandably was probably we pretty excited ended up missing procedure and he removed the Lens cover before he had the camera securely in place that camera got pointed for a few moments directly at the sun the delicate electronics and the camera fried almost immediately and we didn't see anything on Apollo twelve that means for most of us like it never happened. That's the power of the image for you and needless to say the next mission Apollo Thirteen would be historic. Apollo thirteen was the first and only mission to the moon that I clearly saw on the pad go off with my own is also there was some kind of an explosion. Apparently I could afford to be a little flip about this because there's nothing I can add to that. Magnificent work that Ron Howard. Tom Hanks at Harris Bill Paxton Kevin Bacon and Gary sinise did on the movie Apollo Thirteen based on the Book Lost Moon by Apollo Thirteen eighteen commander Jim level it is hands down the best nonfiction space movie ever made faulty wiring to an oxygen tank caused an explosion explosion in the service module crippling power bleeding oxygen and basically turning the command module Odyssey into a dead space print. Here's the big plays but the lunar module Aquarius was a completely separate spacecraft conveniently docked to the nose of the Odyssey Aquarius would become the life book that would get those three men Jim Level Jack swaggered and Fred Hayes backed earth but not before going to the moon. I now huddled inside the limb. The three men were at high risk of suffocation not from lack of oxygen. There's plenty of that but from the accumulation of carbon dioxide which is normally removed from the air by chemical scrubbers lamb was designed for two men over three days. It didn't have the scrubbers that the command module had which was enough for three men in eight or nine days but with the fuel cells on the command module not working that simply wasn't going to help now there were plenty of canisters in the command module but they were designed only for the command module the ones in Aquarius had a completely -pletely different intake now. I'm probably my favorite moment of the movie engineers. Take the canisters they take socks tape lunar sample bags every single thing actually on board both spacecraft and they just dump it onto a table will in a conference room and one of the guys was up the square peg of the command module canister to the round hole of the lunar module scrubber and basically says we have to make this fit into this with that that scene is so critical to understanding how we got to them because it was a combination of intricately laid out precisely detailed and painstakingly rehearsed procedures for every single type of emergency that NASA could imagine but you're they were with emergency that they couldn't have imagined and the ability to switch mental gears from rigid adherence to precise procedures and switching suddenly to kind of free style out of the box. Throw the Spaghetti on wall to see if it sticks kind of improvisation well that encapsulates the success of the entire program and there's one more thing that movie gets exactly right and that's flight director gene Kranz attitude failure is not an option and that's not just there's something printed below the logo of some insurance company he means at literally and don't come to me until you can find a way to get these guys back home in one piece. You know there's another aviation story. I heard when I was learning to fly chuck yeager once found himself in a flat spin. It was unrecoverable everything he tried to do with power rudder ailerons. Nothing was working and he's heading downstairs like an anvil yeager. Her eventually found a way to recover now the way I heard it he said essentially that he couldn't get the plane out of the flat spin but he did think it was possible to flip over into an inverted spin and he knew how to get out of one of those who thinks like we're in horrible shape and we have to make it worse in order to make it better ignition sequence start by all three to one zero. Let we have left up with Apollo fourth game three minutes that the Apollo fourteen launched on January thirty first nineteen seventy-one was the last of the H. Missions and was headed to from tomorrow which was Apollo Thirteen intended landing site but this was no longer a relatively safe and mostly secure flat and featureless lunar see from morrow much older one of the lunar highlands which means that the Apollo fourteen photos the first to show actual terrain there are hills in these pictures rolling hills and not very tall. This actually adds a great deal of reality to that magnificent desolation that Aldrin described on Apollo eleven and which we didn't see thanks to a blind a T._v.. Camera on Apollo Twelve Mission Commander Alan Shepherd had waited patiently for ten years for this moment. If NASA had not decided to test the mercury capsule with Ham Astra Chimps Sixty five than Alan Shepherd shepherd would have been the first man in space with that delay allowed Eureka Garen that well-deserved on her that was a pretty tough hip for shepherd back in nineteen sixty one when he told his wife that the first man in space was standing in that very room Lewis said. Had who let it Russian in here that Russian Eureka Garn was killed in a training flight in nineteen sixty seven he died before witnessing the first moon landing with Apollo eleven and just nine months before Apollo eight made the first journey into Lunar Orbit Alan Shepherd however was alive and well ten years later and he got to walk on the moon he was the oldest man to walk on the moon and the only one of the original mercury seven astronauts to do so Alan Shepherd had been grounded due to an inner ear condition for most of those ten years so he joined fellow mercury astronaut the also grounded D.C Slayton as chief of the astronaut office in one thousand nine hundred sixty three now. This was a valuable we'll place to be during that ten year hiatus and when a new surgical procedure corrected his inner ear Problem Shepherd was back in the rotation even if your business happens to be going to the moon it's always good to have friends in high places in sometimes is not just watching but you know it's who you know. Fellow Mercury seven astronaut Gordon Cooper who unlike shepherd fluid Jim and I- mission Jimmy five with Pete Conrad just returned from the Moon on Apollo twelve had been slated to be the commander of the backup crew for Apollo ten pen now using the usual rotation schedule that would have made cooper the mission commander the plan Moonwalk of Apollo Thirteen Slayton had his doubts about Cooper was rumored to have a lax attitude towards training having had to be repeatedly coaxed into the Jimmy simulator or so we said so slayton inserted his deputy shepherd as the commander of Apollo thirteen now this created its own set of problems and not just with Justifiably Furious Leroy Gordon Cooper Shepherd actually asked John McDevitt commander of Apollo nine and the first man to test the lemon earth orbit if he would join his team as the Lunar Macho pilot for a walk on the moon as part of Apollo Thirteen McDevitt give it declined with thanks he flat out turned down on the grounds that shepherd lack the experience to command a moon mission now. The response of the first American space to this refusal on the part of John McDevitt is not recorded but McDevitt had had appoint shepherd could use more training so D.C Slayton had a talk with Jim Level who had been on the first flight to orbit but not land on the moon on Apollo eight back in nineteen sixty eight level had headed up the backup crew for Apollo eleven which again going by the standard rotation protocol made level commander of Apollo Fourteen Dick Slayton asked level if he and his crew would switch missions with shepherd to give shepherd more training time now offered a chance to walk on the moon several months earlier than expected level agreed to the switch what could possibly go wrong hollow thirteen one wrong and there were more delays as modifications were made to the service module after the near-fatal explosion on Apollo Thirteen. Jim Lovell went to the moon twice but he never landed on it and for the rest of their lives every time shepherd and level would find themselves in each other's company level would ask jokingly but a little wistfully also if shepard wanted to switch missions back back to the original schedule meanwhile Gordo Cooper was pushed back to later Apollo missions and he could already see the writing was on the wall Apollo twenty was cancelled due to lack of funding there were serious doubts about Apollo's eighteen and nineteen so L. Gordon Cooper resigned from NASA and the Air Force on July thirty first nineteen seventy it was battling Parkinson's disease when he died of a heart attack at his home in Ventura California on October four two thousand four that was the forty seventh anniversary of the launch of Split Nick one which it started the whole thing dying in two thousand four was not the end of Gordo spaceflights not by a long shot Gordo Cooper went on to fly aboard a capsule that was lost in in the mountains for several weeks or cooper was aboard SPACEX FALCON One rocket when it exploded two minutes into its flight Gordo Cooper flew on a successful mission to the International Space Station Gordo Cooper was burned into incandescent Endesa NSS has he reentered the atmosphere without a spacey joining him on two of those missions presumably as flight engineer was Montgomery Scott Scotty on the original star Trek series played by actor James Doohan both Doohan's and Cooper's his ashes repeatedly failed to be released in outer space. Both men had been battling tough diseases prior to their debts. Neither one of them were quitters or complainers. Now both finally made it to Earth orbit on spacex his unmanned second mission to the International Space Station on May Twenty second two thousand twelve both of them we entered the earth's atmosphere about a month later in some remains of Mercury and Germany astronaut Gordo Cooper and chief Engineer Montgomery Scott. We're still up there and they always will be but Alan. Shepard got his moon mission. The Apollo Fourteen Lunar Module Antares undocked with the Command Service Module Kittyhawk piloted by Stewart Stewart Russa and began its descent too Fra Mauro after Hand Flying Antares even closer to its intended landing spot than any other Apollo mission before sense Alan Bartlett Shepherd Junior stepped off at the foot pat and onto the lunar surface in Uttar silence his mind on other things apparently because he walked several yards away from the lamb before remarking quietly as if to himself and it's been a long way but we're here now apparently preparing preparing for his imminent retirement from the space program shepherd took a couple of swings without a t engulfs all-time most difficult centrum. That's swing was captured on tape by his Lunar Macho pilot at Mitchell rookie astronaut Edgar de Mitchell only made a single flight into space but it was a doozy it was the sixth human to walk on the moon was his only flight and so ended the H.. Series of Apollo missions now Apollo fifteen was supposed to be h mission but as that deep dark shadow of budget cuts in waning enthusiasm stretched ever longer in the lunar twilight Nassar realized that you better fly while the flying was still good Neil Armstrong's fellow crew member on Jimmy Eight Dave Scott who publicly marveled at Armstrong Skilling coolness under pressure and who then went on to pilot the command module in Earth orbit back on Apollo. Oh nine was selected as mission commander for this first of the long duration Apollo J. Missions Rookies Al Warden Command module pilot and Jim Irwin as lunar module pilot would join Scott on this all air force flight so they had named the lunar module fell can after the mascot of the Air Force Academy the Command Module They Christened Endeavor the space race was back on Ernest by this time but not against the Soviets it was against the United States Congress which which grew more and more intolerant of what many saws admission that had already been accomplished Apollo fifteen with sink to Hanley real a genuinely mountainous region dominated by Headley real itself. It's a smooth sinuous faultline in the lunar surface looks a lot like a drier royal but it's the result of subsurface collapsed rather than ancient flowing water or they will pour one or five or seven this three D. mission had a lot of ground cover. It was absolutely no way to accomplish all of the scientific objectives on foot but that didn't stop Scott from having his way regarding sleep cycles determined not to mar the mission with three full days of jetlag Scott landed the Falcon at Hadley real in the late afternoon at insisted on some solid sleep prior to their first E._p._A.. Now this was made much more comfortable by removing the pressure suits completely they were the first Apollo crew to spend time on the lunar surface in their shirtsleeves. This a strategy apparently paid off during their three day. Stay on the lunar surface Scott and Irwin took three road trips in their lunar over one of them taking them right to the edge of Hanley real itself together. They spent an incredible eighteen hours outside of the limb bringing home one hundred seventy pounds of moon rocks including the genesis rock named in the belief that it might have been part of the Moon's primordial crust formed four point four billion years ago in a solar system that only began four point six billion years ago now less this proved not to be the case the genesis rock sample number fifteen for fifteen pretty remarkable coincidence when you consider it was for Apollo fifteen was later discovered to be Amir four billion eighteen years old. I have a feather hammer. Fifteen also gave mission commander Dave Scott great chance to prove Galileo correct with his anti intuitive idea that all objects fall at the same rate because when you get rid of the air that slows the feather down the feather in the hammer hit the lunar surface at exactly the same time Galileo was correct finding now since that camera on the Lunar Rover could be controlled from the ground in Houston Scott and Irwin parked the buggy what was presumably a safe distance away from the Falcon and the buggy recorded the first video of an Apollo since stage lifting off the surface of the moon automatic aside from a shower of golden debris from the four-legged descent stage. There's no rocket flame no smoke nothing would come out of this event both smoke and flame being a product product of a rocket engine firing on or near the surface Falcon second-stage Climb Skyward like a scalded ASI which would be test pilot jargon for rapidly the instruction to tilt the camera as it took off had to be sent from Earth One and a quarter seconds before the launch occurred the radio signal would take that long to get to the rover moving at a mere one hundred eighty six thousand two hundred sixty two miles per second speed a lights not just a good idea yeah. It's the Law Apollo Fifteen's lunar module pilot Jim Irwin repeated the remarkable story of his immediate predecessor Apollo for Teens Ed Mitchell on his one and only trip into space. Jim Irwin would not only get to walk on the moon. You've got the drive on it unlike his commander Dave Scott who as we record this is one of only four surviving men to have walked on the moon. Jim Irwin died of a heart attack in nineteen ninety. One only sixty one years old old. He was the first member to leave the most exclusive club in human history. John Young who orbited the moon during the dress rehearsal flight of Apollo ten in his second trip back is commander of Apollo Sixteen bound for the even older even more mountainous terrain of the Descartes Highlands greater early fourteen mattingly pulled from the crew crew of Apollo Thirteen three days prior to launch to a suspected case of German measles that he never actually contracted which flies command module pilot on a ship named Casper of friendly ghost fame the one departure from Syria ship ship names after snoopy and Charlie Brown modules flew the lunar landing dress rehearsal on Apollo ten it was largely through Ken Mattingly's tireless efforts in cold wet and dark command module simulator that the crew of the flight he'd missed Apollo Thirteen made it back alive and well rookie Charlie Duke would make it a hat trick for Lunar Module Pilots Apollo Sixteen would be his only flight into space aboard the more impressively named Orion the descartes highlands would prove as buried an interesting as heavily really been and if John Young and Charlie Duke didn't encounter a rock as old as genesis rock from Apollo fifteen they sure as hell ran into one a good deal larger five big house rock a medium-sized boulder that had rolled down from the Descartes Hills millions and millions of years ago makes quite an impression when seeing with an actual human to provide some sense of scale speaking of impressions it was boulder's like that one that had littered the area that Apollo eleven was landing for before Neil Armstrong did what he was paid to do. You're Orion left the moon in s spectacular fashion as it a derived. There's a frame still frame from the video of the liftoff taken from the Apollo Sixteen rover that looks like nothing so much as the inside of Studio Oh fifty four in New York with golden rays of debris blasting out like a spotlight on a miracle John Young would return home and wait almost as long as Alan Shepherd did for his next flight ten years after leaving the Moon John Young take the left seat as commander of S. T. S. one the first space shuttle flight writing Columbia into orbit accompanied by Rob Crippen Young would take Columbia again a few years later on S.. T. S. nine nine John Young number nine of the twelve men who've walked on the moon is one of only three astronauts who flown to the moon twice who's chief of the astronaut office from Nineteen seventy-four Until Nineteen eighty-seven and he is the only person person in history to a flown four different types of spacecraft Jimmy Capsule the Apollo Command Module Apollo Lunar Module and the spatial John Young died from complications from pneumonia in Houston Texas on January fifth two thousand eighteen at age eighty seven and he is sorely missed and that left one more chance everything left to do would have to be done on Apollo Seventeen Apollo twentieth been cancelled some time before in fact Richard Nixon had wanted to cancel Apollo sixteen seventeen eighteen and nineteen but office of Management and Budget Deputy Director Casper Weinberger who would go. I want to become Ronald Reagan's secretary of Defense Manage to salvage Apollo sixteen and Seventeen Apollo eighteen was at one time targeted for the massive spectacular terrace crater named Copernicus <music> Apollo nineteen fell the budget cuts as well. One of its potential landing sites was the most spectacular formation on the entire moon tyco who's brilliant white rays of ejecta spread out for a thousand miles in in every direction but none of this was to be apollo seventeen would be humanities last trip to the moon so far one zero we have we have and I hear Kennedy Space Policy Seventeen also brought the most bitter disappointment of the entire Apollo program your go go oh. I'm not talking about mission. Pala seventeen was the most spectacular success of the mall but for yours truly by now all of thirteen years old and just three weeks short of that I telescope when Apollo Thirteen launched on December seventh nineteen seventy-two well that night turned out to be the single most bitter disappointment of my entire life apollo seventeen was not the last flight of a Saturn five but it was the first and only night launch of the world's biggest Roman candle and I set up a hotel manager. You're still living in Bermuda was going to be directly under it. When it dropped its first stage in an explosion of light in favor so there I sat outside? The House. Waiting was scheduled for liftoff around ten PM A._M.. Eastern time which would make it eleven pm local time in Bermuda. I think I got set up around nine thirty. I wasn't going to miss this. No Way I sat watching the western horizon is lift off time approach. I did never radio in the Internet was still thirty years in the future that was sure about the launch time so I waited and when launch time came and went I thought there must be some kind of launched lay so I waited some more alone with my mom and dad attending an Apollo Seventeen party at the hotel which was just about quarter mile away and then I waited some more got to be so desperate that I would see a decent airplane and wonder if I hadn't oversold myself I waited until about eleven thirty and then I waited till midnight and then I waited into one A._M.. which was the latest I'd ever been up now? Having a launch scrubbed wasn't all that uncommon I just get the new launch date in the newspaper. The next day and I just prayed be another night launch so I packed up my chair and my sleeping bag and my drinks and my snacks and I went to bed actually I I went to the bathroom. I was utterly convinced that going to relieve myself would be what actually triggered the apollo seventeen launch sequence so I went to bed that night disappointed certainly but hardly crushed as woken up about an hour later by my mother. I remember her exact words. She said Billy. Wasn't that simply unbelievable. That was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. What was the most beautiful thing you've ever seen and right? At that instant I could feel my internal organs withering integrates as it slowly began to dawn on me the horrible truth of what it actually happened daylight here at Kennedy Space Center with that and five and moving the pad after after delay of two and a half hours Apollo Seventeen cleared the PAT at twelve thirty three A._M.. Eastern Standard Time that would be about one thirty three in the morning where I was about fifteen minutes after I'd fallen asleep now. I knew I'd fallen asleep during launch because my Mama told me that it had been bright enough to turn night into day and I'm sure I would remembered something like that. You know I think that was the moment I had my first genuine adult thought and that was this there are some things that happen open and they can't happen no matter how much you want them to it was over it was done. I missed it period. The end still not over it. Now as I said Apollo oh seventeen was simply a magnificent mission gene cernan who've flown to within ten miles of the moon back on politics final rehearsal finally got his chance he would be the eleventh man to walk on the moon and he'd be the last man to leave it joining him on the lunar surface. It was Apollo's only full-time scientists geologist Harrison Schmitt known as Jack he was rotated to Apollo seventeen when it was finally clear that this was going to be the last chance to get an actual geologist on the moon he'd be the fourth person it in a row to make their one and only trip into space for walk on the Moon Atlanta Georgia. That's super would ride the last lunar module challenger to a truly spectacular landing spot the Taurus Latro valley they would set challenger down on a small plateau surrounded by towering peaks the south massive the north massive east massive and the sculptured hills from there they would strike out in three directions three separate rover excursions one for each day. They spent on the moon now during those three days Pala Seventeen would break pretty much every record in the longest time spin on the moon longest moon walks largest collection of lunar samples and most time spent in Lunar Orbit Ron Evans would get a chance to see the earth rise above the moon seventy five times out just as they were getting into their rover for the first V._A.. cernan accidentally knocked one of the fenders off career of the rover. Now this wasn't as trivial as it sounded in the vacuum of the lunar surface where desperate like water the wire Mesh rear tyres might throw up enough dust to make driving the rover impossible a couple of laminated moon charts kind bent to an arc and duct tape to the rear wheel pretty much solved that problem and so off they went the leme sending back real time images as they bounded over the hills carefully skirting small craters with the orange fenders the continual bumps in jars in the plane euphoric fun when the lamb was in motion on apollo seventeen felt more like a dukes of hazzard episode than a scientific expedition and parenthetically. May I just add if you're gonNA fake the moon landing adding. I'm not entirely sure why driving twelve miles in a buggy sending back live footage. It'd be something you really WanNa. Do you guys I've found that. Let me tell you about this. Flag at the beautiful picture at pitiful now Jack Schmitt was a top notch geologist but whether or not that had anything to do with it he certainly seemed to fall down a lot time and again he just pitched face forward onto the surface sprays August flying through the air like water through Garden Sprinkler at times. They seemed almost giddy. These two men they actually broke into song together on the Moon One day but Jack Schmitt earned his pay on that mission as a geologist it was his trained is that a small patch of color among the subtle shades of gray and Beige Ari file it go over it was orange soil alright burnt orange appropriately enough when later analyzed scientists discovered that this orange soil was the result of an Ancient Fire Fire Fountain on the Moon Best Estimate is that three point six four billion years before a volcanic eruption on the then act of moon blue millions of drops of lava into the lunar vacuum which cooled rapidly into very fine almost circular grains. What will we have found? I wonder if Congress and the president hadn't been so shortsighted. What might we have seen walking inside the world's biggest football stadium the sixty mile wide two and a half Mile Deep Taras Prater called Copernicus the meteorite that made the crater tyco hit hard enough to send plumes of white subsurface material halfway around the moon? We didn't get to see now earlier earlier. I spent a little time on a photo of Neil Armstrong his face reflecting the joy and relief of meeting the challenge that President Kennedy had set for the nation. It was the look of a man who'd been I to walk on another planet. There's a similar picture of gene cernan the last man to walk on the most famous one is him smiling after their final moonwalk but the one I like best has Cernan well off to the side in fact is is our kind of bit out of folks. He doesn't have the intensity that Armstrong's picture showed. It probably because after three days of working on the moon he'd gotten a bit used a things but here's the thing I love about that picture. In the center there are two space helmet CERNAN's with the commanders red stripe and Schmitz all white helmet beside it both helmets what's arresting on a pile of filthy grace space suits that are packed tightly into a corner of the lamb obviously taken later than the picture in the suit Cernan is now wearing what appears to be a pair of similarly filthy long johns if it weren't for the heart monitors is just visible inside his collar. You'd think he'd come out of a West Virginia Coal Mine and that is what so impresses me with that image Cernan space is absolutely black. He looks exactly like a coal miner at the end of along shift that face and those filthy suits had originally been so spotlessly white when the entered the command module America that they look almost sterile clean enough to operate in which means that all of that Brian Dirt every microscopic a great it was moon-dust humans have been staring up the moon since before they became humans both Russia and America had been in such a mad risky and expensive race to get some of this precious stuff back to the earth by the time the Apollo program had been cut short there was so much moon-dust on Cernan's and Schmitz faces. There's no question from Jean Cernan's expression that what he wanted most from the lunar soil that they've been collecting was a long hot shower to wash all of it I nine three through one isn't that good and that was the end of the Paul. All people worked hard. Put it there and put every other crew here and the country faith and man-kai something different there was managed to salvage some of the remaining hardware. One of the three remaining Saturn fives had its third stage hollowed out and heavily modified it alone among her fourteen sisters lifted off without the familiar taper of the command and service modules beneath the spike of the emergency escape tape tower <hes> because of those modifications that last Saturn five reminded you a lot of the c eight Nova that beefier even larger rocket that had never been built you see in a last ditch effort to keep the space program together while the space shuttle was being developed NASA had managed to convince Congress of something new Skylab. They called America's first space station. There's a full-scale copy of it in the Smithsonian Erin Space Museum standing beneath it. It seems absolutely ludicrous that something that enormously large could ever get off the ground and of course that was just the top stage the bulk of the Saturn five massive first and second stages why out at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Florida Boorda the ruins of thirteen first stages of the most powerful rocket ever built why pretty close to one another in the deep and Cold Atlantic the thin outer skins of the rocket and the delicate fuel tanks were shattered into pieces when they impacted the water but the five F. One engines that lifted all of it a second and third stages the command and service module the two stage lamb the solid rocket motors on the top of the escape tower and especially especially all of the fuel needed to hurl those men and that equipment to the surface of the moon and bring those crews back safely every single person that ever flew into Saturn five came home in one piece the whole awe inspiring firing three hundred sixty foot long six and a half million pounds of it each one of those f. one engines still the most powerful engine ever built turned out to be pretty sturdy. If you take thirteen successful <music> southern five launches each with five main engines of peace he come to the realization that there are sixty five of those huge magnificent monsters out there lying on the floor of the Atlantic each one of them with an exhaust spell large enough for Verner Bond Brown to stand in arms raised above his head jump as high as he could and not have any chance of touching the other side now skype had some serious problems one of the solar arrays tore loose on deployment and a heat shield went with it leaving the station with a huge loss of electrical power Anna toasty two hundred degree Fahrenheit Interior eleven days later the first man mission arrived commanded by Apollo Twelve veteran Pete Conrad the third man to walk on the Moon one zero we have launched amid and we have lift off the clock is running and Scott has cleared the tower their Apollo capsule launched by the ever reliable. If half size Saturn one be kind of lifted off from what looks like a babies high chair actually made an extensive inspection as they flew around the crippled station Skylab looked like a piece of space junk. Frankly there's a tangle of wires. Were one of the two main solar panels supposed to be just been simply ugly ripped away during the flight raw exposed Metal Looking Kinda rusted without the missing heat protection panel was lining one side of the station and then on the other side the other main solar panel was just barely deployed like a bird and with a folded wing it appeared to be completely unsalvageable but turns out there was a little of that Apollo spirit still left in the bag Conrad and his crew made eight attempts at docking with Skylab. All of them failed so the crew got into their pressure suits they disassembled the docking probe but a few things here added a few things they're put it back together again and then tried again turns out this time it worked now. It was still literally an oven in in there but an engineer named Jack Kinzler known throughout NASA as Mr Fix it had as usual come up with brilliant solution he designed a highly reflective parasol which when collapsed could be pushed out through a science access hatch now when extended the covered almost all of the exposed surface and dropped the temperature down to manageable levels although every picture of Skylab ever taken after this fix looks like there's a homeless man who pitched a rough of canvas tent for him to crawl under next the crew suited up again the exited the station and armed with long levers they began to work at the jammed solar panel like sailors armed with harpoons dismembering Awale the panel Hannele eventually pop free and though still missing an entire bank of solar panels Skylab was at last open for Business Conrad and his crew remained aboard for Twenty eight days his lunar module pile on Apollo Twelve Allen being the man who burned out the T._v.. Camera led the second mission to Skylab they remain there for sixty days while the third and final crew extended that stay to eighty four days but as its orbit decayed it was clear that this massive hunk of metal oh that went up was about to come back down again ensue while naturally media frenzy ensued people hawked hats and t shirts with target bullseyes on them and Skylab repellent came with the money back guarantee. Should it fail to keep the space hey station from falling on your head and then on orbit number thirty four thousand nine hundred eighty one skylab returned to earth and spectacular fireball landing not too far from Perth Australia on July eleventh of Nineteen seventy-nine. Just a few today's short of the tenth anniversary of the Moon Landing. It's actually rather a route reply to the town that had turned on all of the lights it had to welcome John Glenn orbiting above in friendships seven back in nineteen sixty two and then on July Fifteenth Nineteen seventy five the last Apollo mission had the last Apollo capsule ride the last Apollo rocket the final Saturn one be into orbit Toronto with the two men Soviet Soyuz launched seven hours hours earlier launch. Come in we have a lift off all engine building up. I was at Cape County for them. Much detente relaxation had arrived arrived as the former space race adversaries shook hands in orbit d.c slate who'd become the only mercury seven astronaut to not fly emission due to medical reasons finally got his ride sixteen years later the man who almost almost single-handedly determined who was going to fly what and when for so many years died of a brain tumor in June of Nineteen Ninety three he was sixty nine years old now of course you've got to put together the American docking system with the Russian docking system. They're not the same and that creates an engineering problem and political problem. Engineering problem is very simple to solve the political problem is both sides want to be the docker and neither side wants to be the Dokki so the engineers create this kind of three pedaled flower that goes together in such a way that just by looking at it. No one can really tell who's doing the pitching and who's doing the catching and and then finally came the spatial now I only have one thing to say about the one hundred and thirty five individual missions flown by five vehicles between April of Nineteen eighty-one and July of two thousand eleven originally designed to be flown aloft on a mand carrier aircraft and to be capable of landing and returning to space from any airport found in any major city the space shuttle like Apollo the slowly dismembered by budget cuts more and more cost cutting designed designed band AIDS and jury rigs had to be implemented just to keep the program alive seven astronauts died when Challenger exploded seventy two seconds into its final flight on January twenty eighth nineteen eighty six and seven more perished on February I two thousand and three when Columbia disintegrated on reentry but the space shuttle itself didn't kill either of those crews bandaids killed the burn through the rings on one of the solid rocket boosters destroyed challenger and it was the recently installed more environmentally friendly insulating foam from the external tank that came loose and punched a hole in the leading edge of Colombia's swing dooming that crew as well. Neither the solid rocket boosters nor the external tank had been present in that original elegant design but worse much worse was the fact that both shuttled disasters like the Apollo one fire had come with plenty of warning the Apollo. One crew knew that the block one Apollo capsule was a lemon if not a death trap burn through on the s R._B.'s had happened on multiple flights prior to challenge final mission an foam had been repeatedly observed coming off of the external tank before a chunk finally hit Columbia. This wasn't the NASA I grew up with and loved so dearly by the time we get to the space shuttle NASA was run by an army of managers and bureaucrats not test pilots and engineers watching NASA spend thirty years going round and round in the same circles that John Glenn traced in his phone booth sized capsule back in nineteen sixty two was kind of like a long slow divorce from someone you had truly and deeply loved go ahead and break your heart and then they promised to change never do it again and they would change for a while and then those old self destructive habits would return earn and they break your heart again and you'd forgive him again and then the new promises slowly became broken once more slow when Columbia disintegrated over Texas. I was finally done with the agency whose curbing Becker logo I at hand doodle hundreds it looked like the space age and everything it represented was dead and gone but then in two thousand and three another one of my lifelong heroes brought back that feeling revolutionary pollution-free aircraft designer Burt Rutan who says disgusted with the slow pace of the last thirty years as I was burt decided that if NASA wasn't GonNa make an effort he's going to have to do it himself. Burt set up a meeting with Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen who wrote a check two birds company scaled composites burden his team then went out and built not just a space vehicle but an entire launch they had ground crew simulators static rocket engine test the whole Shebang he was aiming for a suborbital flight not two different really from the one that ham took burt had run up against the same problem that the three hundred and seventy five thousand people who'd form the core of the space race had already encountered in that problem is this you want a nice slick spacecraft to minimize minimized drag on the way up but you want something as Draghi and block his possible on the way down that high drag would keep the heat within reasonable limits. Now's IT turns out the only thing Burt Rutan could not design and build old is a box big enough for him to think outside of he took that slick aircraft he carried it to altitude aboard a winged mothership the way God intended and then he lived that candle and watched to go up like a dart spatial one went up just fine but this being burt Rutan that was not the end of the story on this mission at the top of the Parabola as it experienced three or four minutes of weightlessness Kinda ran out a momentum burt made the design of spaceship one rake itself in in half you just bent the rear of the ship at right angles to the main body and that meant that while it went up twenty and I it came down flat as a pancake birt's lifelong friend Mike Melville a naturalized U._S.. A citizen from South Africa would stop by Mojave airport spend a few hours asking a few questions about his new experimental airplane the very easy to Mike wanted to build they hit it off so mike never left in his wife. Sally moved to California California Test Flying Birds Designs on July twenty first two thousand four Mike Melville age sixty four dropped from the white knight carrier aircraft ignited the solid rocket engine and hand flu that Little Star spangled beauty into by God outer space that made him the four hundred and thirty fourth person to make that trip and get his astronaut wings but he was the first commercial astronaut in history. You know I watched Apollo Thirteen lift off from about twenty miles away at Cape Canaveral when White Knight taxi past with spaceship one hanging underneath I ran forward from friends hanger like everybody else did and I gave him a thumbs up and I touched the wingtip as it went past Mike Melville had opened a window was waving a small American flag that particular space mission long to all of us and it's the signal honor of my life to become personal friends with both Mike Novel and Bert Rutan no my all time favorite picture myself was taken after my first ride in one of Burt Rutan's long easy experimental aircraft but spaceship one was fifteen years ago Virgin Galactic took over the program and they have yet to fly their first passengers people. My Age can get pretty cranky with this generation of millennials when we're talking about the space age and we're cranky because I should have been doing this fiftieth anniversary special from Saturday. That's why some people today people weren't around to see what we saw dismissed. The whole thing is either a fake or fluke like it was some kind of phantasm an intermission from history. They don't really get it it. It's not entirely their fault. They weren't there but we didn't make any of it up and it wasn't a pipe dream. There's lags on the moon the first which was planted half a century ago and as we record this only four of the twelve men that walked on the mooner still with us one of them is Buzz Aldrin Dr Rendezvous could do the orbital mechanics in his head was it had some problems after after Apollo eleven but who wouldn't just think about it for a minute you work your entire life to do the toughest thing ever accomplished and then you do it and then you come home. You're thirty nine years old just walked on them now. What what are you going you do for the next fifty years? Now as I write this buzzes still sprightly and as enthusiastic spaceflight is always an eases full of passion as he was during the greatest moment of the Post Apollo era when he got sick and tired of being repeatedly pestered by some lunatic who called this American hero a Liar Anna Coward and Apollo Eleven Command pilot. Mike Collins is still with this as well at least as late as June of two thousand nineteen Apollo fifteen commander Dave Scott who nearly died before Neil Armstrong could recover the out of control juvenile eight mission is still with us so as Charlie Duke from Apollo Sixteen and so as Jack Schmitt the man who saw the orange soil on the surface of the Moon Duke and Schmidt are the youngest of the Moon Walkers and each one of them are eighty three years old America may be the country that got bored with go into the moon but it is an astonishing thing really that virtually every single one of the men that walked on the moon died of old-age. Neil Armstrong went West on August twenty fifth two thousand twelve. I was driving driving down the one eighteen freeway. When I heard the news on the radio after Apollo Neil retired to private life teaching engineering at Purdue University but the most remarkable aspect of this most remarkable man was not as courage judge his intellect or as dedication it was his humility for many many years after Apollo Eleven Neil Armstrong personally wrote a letter to every single eagle scout twin that title that he had shared as a boy he originally was very generous with his autograph until he heard that people were selling counterfeit copies online at which point he became very protective of signing anything at all but Mike Melville got his signature twice favorite story about Neil Armstrong comes from one of the very few times he found himself tangled up in unpleasant? He's he threatened to sue someone. It threatened to sue his barber. Actually he threatened to sue him because unbeknownst to kneel the barber had sold locks of his hair and meet about three thousand dollars off Armstrong demanded that he gives that money to charity and he got his way NASA has had hundreds of different mission patches over the years but the one for Apollo eleven is one of a kind that patch an eagle about the touchdown on the lunar surface the olive branch of peace in its talents is the only mission logo ever to not name that was something you personally demanded to his dying gay. He maintained that everything they had done they had done as a team and as a nation great men do great things immortal men do great things with humility and charity and grace to me. He was the greatest man to ever live. He made me more than proud to be an American Neil Armstrong B._B.. Proud to be a human being one last thing when I heard that cheering in central park on that warm night of July twentieth nineteen sixty nine. I said that I wouldn't hear a sound like that again for forty nine years last year I was watching the first flight of Elon Musk's falcon heavy outside the control room a huge crowd of people almost all of them in their twenties and thirties had gathered at spacex to watch the launch live four three two sound they made when it cleared the patents tremendous the roar they made at for stage separation was heartwarming but when those two booster rockets dropped simultaneously into the frame to land on pillars of fire the sound that came out of that roomful of millennials was exactly the sound. I heard that might in central park. It's a different five this time less tense more fun. You know you launch a candy apple red convertible complete with space suited Mannequin David Bowie on the radio and don't panic from the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy on the navigation screen while you're not just doing something that the Chinese the Russians Europeans and even NASA couldn't do what you do in is you're having a blast any company with the mid Atlantic target barge named of course forces still love is going to pick up the Apollo Fire and run with it company like that is going to land on Mars now right after those twin boosters landed a twentysomething friend of mine texted me and said this was our moon landing. I respectfully disagree. Landing on Mars will be you're moving. The young engineers technicians at SPACEX are going to do it and we apollo kids contrary to what we all thought just five years ago are GonNa live to see it to to those young people out there. Let me just say this. You're great grandfathers went to the moon using slide rules genius and guts out pass tranquility base. There's more orange soil waiting for you. You've people my age have been waiting for fifty years for someone to go further than we did so we apollo kids who dare you to go to Mars. We doubled their. Are you an Apollo eleven what we saw for new and as for me. I'm your host and writer of this program Bill. Thank you so much for giving me a chance to you. Tell you about those amazing years that I got a chance to live through and thank you very much for joining us for Apollo Eleven what we saw Apollo eleven what we saw is written and presented by Bill Whittle produced by Robert Stirling directed by Jonathan. Hey Executive Producer Jeremy Boring are supervising producer is mathis glover and our technical producer is Austin Stevens post production producer Alex Zinn Garowe story producer Jared ciccio edited aided by Philip Lachey and go gye audio recorded by Mike Cora Meena audio mixed by Patrick Joyner and Mike Coral Meena graphics by Coal Holloway and Anthony Gonzales Clark designed by Cynthia and Gulu production assistance.

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Has Been Dying to come on because he and I talked about movies all the time and so much so that my wife has been light is quite as quick on show I'm what we need to figure out when Greg come on the show. So as for popular demand, my Buddy Andrew, cloudy actor colleague Buddy and movie fanatic. Me is in the show quinny how you doing buddy I'm doing good Mr. Garland how you doing It's good to see you. It's so. we're not infancy with the PODCAST, but Mr Corny here has been very happy to come on and Alternative Matt I. Think we've known each other for almost five four five years now at this point three over. We've read two thousand sixteen with arsenic and old lace and then. Yeah. That'd before. We met during production of arsenic and old lace Mister Queenie here was playing Einstein to Peter Larter character and I was playing Teddy, Roosevelt and the best thing I found about working with is that I can make him break on stage. And I've done that ever since anytime. Other. But we also found out that we will have love love love and are fanatics about films. I mean I think I said in the first broadcast have upwards to. Maybe. The number was like eight hundred movies in my collection. Pretty sure quitting over here has way more than that. Yeah. Few more love let Marie assists to. Videos an prepaid videos. it's in the thousands. Yeah. And what's what's also funny is Around the area, there's a used bookstore and I have actually called quitting when they've been having see sales of this before Ben came along but quitting would come over on the weekend heavily. Place Clean. I. Nine, hundred stance each each DVD. But it was hilarious. 'cause I'd have like maybe two when I feel like I'm looking at the books. A. Dvd. After DVD case but then he'd sit there and be like. Well I want this form and I want this and then we being the The big mouth I am I'd be like Oh. What about this is? I don't have that. They get over again. Say quinny I think no I. Think you're more obscure movies than May I. Think you know a lot of obscure the reason I don't know I'm more mainstream. I, think. which is funny because when I throw in a movie that he's never seen before and like all my God. You've never seen this. Nope I make a point Tobago now. Watch it. Well and before Cova Queenie inequities to come over all the time and we would have movie night. So he would pick a movie I would pick a movie and most of the time with him, I would take old movies. So the thin man. Mom. There's another one I showed really older you like this is really good I remember. Yeah, of course, on my still fricking to which I think like when is seven days in May with Kirk. Douglas. End. That is Rosa over. But we're here today with specific topic since we're getting into. Halloween time. And I last up. So was before Christmas, with Kathy Regard Yes we talked about nightmare for Christmas. I really wanted to do a top cause. I've done this for the album before the ten track threes on albums with my friend Carson, and I wanted to do Halloween movies now. For purposes in Quinquina. Knows this I am not a hard fan. I don't. I'm not really great too hard that I do like Halloween movies. So I brought in the topics tonight we're going to be. doing top five movies to watch around Halloween. So these movies that we both love to watch when Halloween comes around now. Because because we're both genetics. I narrowed it down to five. So I taught five and then Quinn here has seven honorable mentions and I have five on mentioned again, the the category has broadened so. It may not be scary movie, but it may be a really good movie or Something stupid nothing based on Halloween or Palo Lean. This was a very heartless to make. You know catching it down to five UNMADE. No grow brain. Off Yeah well I wanted to go a little Rob Gordon from high fidelity and keeping five. Just. Because I know you, I can talk forever about most of these movies. So I wanted. To Limited so our our audience would. Have a palpable episode and. Not have to do it in two sections so but will say the one I, WanNa tell you one story. I, don't know if I told you this but. Do you know the movie night of the Living Demon to do know that movie I nove not seen it. Doe To them dead. The. Ben Stiller's wife or ex wife. I, think she is now on Christine Taylor Young Christine Tan was in and So. Megan being Meghan she does not like hard movies but she saw this movie she spent the whole time saying to me it's hilarious. It's cheesy. You'll get a real kick out of it and so she said to watch I said sure I, mean she says it's right up your alley love scary movie the comedy movies. So I said sure let's throw it on and It's not cheesy. It's free. It's disturbing. It's scary endless. This way I had nightmares for after I, will never. Out and speaking of and this is something in. A joke, I, always, you know when? It's this is from. Every as sequel called silent night deadly night to. Come. In every time just see L. Garbage Day to Megan officially heard me and It's star all it's it's guy gets killed and the tagline. Before he says it garbage state and kills them. While we also say that he he was taking up the carpet. Gorge aged is wrong. But we talked about that movie so. We'll have a bad movie list another time. And actually That was the other topic I was thinking about two of the worst the best band. That's movie to watch like one of those guilty pleasure ones where you live, you know this is a terrible movie know it's stupidest Shit. But you still have to watch it and Not to give away my number one but it's Rome. Ohi Mall. For three three or four times last year and. How's your sex life? Anyway. So but that's GonNa be another time. So we're GONNA get going with our So again, this is the top five halley movies with Uncle Mentions to watch around Halloween and these kind of our go to hell we moved that we to watch around. Halloween. So quinny, why don't we start with you? Since you're Mike S Start with number five. What do you got the number size number five? Okay. This is a movie that shown every year. On Halloween at during. This year, it's not being shown on cable. It's Sharon Apple TV. It's my favorite. It's the great pumpkin. Charlie Brown. Not. have to watch it every year. Just to see Charlie Brown poke different holes in his ghost outfit and. Every single time in his bag up. I was GONNA. Say isn't that the classic line of when INSIST OUR GOTO RAW? Yet that's A. Good one you. You've seen the robot chicken parodies that hasn't you. Know hasn't seen go on Youtube it's it's Hilarious Linus summons the Great Pumpkin using witchcraft. Ridiculousness. Okay. So my first one so I'm glad you did that as your first one because that's a classic it's Great. Kids movie. It's for everyone so it's not a. There's some scary bits in it, but for the most part, it's very. Great movie to sit around and watch as as. Sad. This is very lucky I had I wanted to put that number two but I got something to. Okay. So so my number five I have is a movie that I have loved for a long time. And it is a nineteen, seventy, four's. Mel Brooks is young Frankenstein as one of my. All Time gene wilder of big oil Teri Garr course leach men, Marty Feldman Mellon Time, Count Mars, and and not many people realize it. But a young gene Hackman play the cut which. I did not data my list I need. Not On my list. It's announced Franken Steve. My favorite been. The blind man when he's toward the sink but stuff on his bunch made. Let, he breaks the cup. The monster just goes he just. Mine is. And you know what to go to why don't? Fasten sits. It's yeah it's it's an it's in the library of Congress in terms of the national film press it became a musical on which actually is really good Place. Yeah. Violence Alcohol did it yeah. They're doing a live version of that but it's it's a great great movie Funny Funny Funny as hell one of my favorite movies I think begging has seen it, but it's but also pays tribute to the old black movies like networks insisted windy and color and that kind of thing. So definitely worth A. Quick me one of your auto mentions before we go to number four. One of my honorable mentions is. One that. This is. Dairy O. ARA GENTO AND I could've put like Hocus pocus is a witch based on, which is bow should've put like pitches hocus-pocus, but this movie. Is. suspicious. Oh To Watch if you haven't never seen it, watch it. The direction, the talk, the colors that he uses and it's terrifying hell it's it's not if you. If, listen to Don know what this is about a young girl. She goes to a ballet school in Europe and uncovers a secret within the walls of the of the school and it's really really it's scrapie. It's scary but. Is this a foreign movie? Like. Harper. Remember. The actress actresses name who is the Absolutely. That's cool. Yeah. I. I'd never seen it personally myself It's on it is on my list although if you say it's really creepy and scary the. Feel about. How However, my my I will mention is very interesting. In terms of you, as you know me that I'm not one to Gore or scary. But my my first honorable mention is cabin in the woods Oh. Yes. To God yes. I. Renewed my faith in horror movies. It's follows innocuous but yes, I would see having the woods in the theaters. Loved it. So so so directed by Drew Goddard, Princeton? Cohen Baiju thawed and. Mr Joe, Sweden who right now is having a little bit of difficulty. So I hesitate to bring his name up but what is what it is but starring Christine Connolly Chris Hemsworth, for a it was actually. Filmed pre swords before he became. Released afterwards because of lawsuit with MGM. Anna Hutchinson friendly with aired for an crafts. Yeah. Just Williams. And the amazing. Amazing. Amazing Amazing Amy Akron. Akron Richard Jenkins, and Bradley. Our. It basically, it does what streams did in the nineties. It basically tastes the tropes of harm movies and throws a and makes it part of the story and also shows on. and come on how great is that I won't give it away from. The variously end each. Yeah. It just you will. It's something hidden that the the the the source of to to survivors left. uncovered. The. Cap. Allows Saint while him before his big sequence before they get to that that sequence at near the end is. Probably, one of the greatest sequences I've ever seen in terms of just chaos a mayhem. But yes. So cabinet the woods one my favorite movies. Queen. You have for number four for our top five list. Number four is a movie that I always watch. And always gives me are always always scared of least the nineteen seventy-three. and. This one. is about a girl and she gets possessed. And it's Every every year I watched that movie it doesn't get old it terrifies how I see something new every time in this movie it's actually if you've ever seen not the second one, it's horrible but the third line president. George. C. Scott. As creepy movie that that's better. Sequel won't and it's. Yeah. What's funny is I know William Peter Blatty. Roach, the third access it's technically I. Don't know if you know about this about the third one. Knox. Get off the first one for a second. But the third one I don't know if he knows what he is based on the Book Legion. Yes. It is eroded as a response to the exorcist that he thought. Evil triumphed and wanted to do the opposite and When he did the movie, there was no XS in it at the why the call it excess three and he wanted to call Legion so. So. They had a huge argument and the exorcism in that really doesn't make sense but the movies wonderful with your right jerseys rat doors. You know a great great cast. One of my favorite lines ever is in that movie of her of 'em asking like whereas such concession the on the go should be in the file he says it's not not. Yes Yes XS of William Freak. William frequency growing your bringing masterpiece written by William Peter Blatty. Who My mother met. She taught his grandson. I. Yeah, it was that was mass But Yeah great movie Again Another Library of Congress movie Yes and you're right scariest El Ellen Burstyn Max von Our League. Yeah and the Amazing Linda. Just, absolutely brilliant dorien Bryant Okay. MITUMBA. Is Sleepy. Hollow. An interesting factor tend that. One Yours. No Timberg won the nineteen, ninety, nine, nine, thousand, nine, hundred, nine. American. Gothic. Johnny Depp. Christina really and a wonderful wonderful wonderful Supporting cast probably one of the best supporting cast I think that. Burton Act. Gambian. Gambian. A Douglas yet, Jeffrey Jones. Ian McDermott might Michael, Gough Christopher walken his in it. And Miranda Rousson and you know just absolutely growing and. Marnie even Landau's in at the very beginning references to diapers for Christmas, as references to pretty much every Burton thing ever and he did it absolutely fine of it came after he was trying to get superman lives off the ground so he and he came to this but that movie is so weird and so creepy but so growing and and really worth the time to I. Love to see how I that's one of my favorite stories. The source of the do you ever watch like? A watch the. Adventures of abide in his. AAC abroad all my God, i. I should put as his up but I watch. Out To. And if Anyone wants to read the legend sleepy hollow by Washington Irving is. Free, be as easy. Especially, if you know the end of what happens just the way he describes in how it's written own, you would you won't be to sleep for a little bit. After that Quinn, give us another on mentioned. Okay. Now. This one was very tough because it's poem the second. scariest movies of all time directed by Roman Polanski. No it is. On my God but everything from the music to the Lullaby here in the beginning. To be a farrow's performance and John Cats fits and the Oscar winning performance with Gordon as the nosy neighbor. Just everything you know listeners when I'm talking about Rosemary's being service London. Every time go to that in New York I forget the address of the building but that's department building that you see and it's in it's God's thumb style still scared to this. And what's creepy about it, which is kind of the same thing with next assists is that it's loosely based on a true story. That there are groups that elite in the accounts and sacrifice people to the devil into say it's Oh it's so creepy it's absolutely crippling. Yeah No. One in that I believe is the movie that got Roman. Lansky noticed by By by mainstream let me give a mainstream and I. think that predates Chinatown go six. Thousand. Nine. Hundred Sixty eight. Yeah so Very good movie. I wish from Lansky didn't have what he has on his. His back. But you know I and but it's a we're doing the best. We can to separate the artists from the the work although I don't approve of Roman Polanski all. All right. My next on April mentioned is a very strange one when and I don't think you're GonNa look at me and be like, what are you talking about? It's scary movie three. The. Hurt the. Yes I actually do I actually don't like the first two I don't care for either one of them. Redo pse hair parody the the screen movies the second one paranormal stuff. So what's the third one was the alien stuff was the third one was the alien but here's the biggest one. It's got a directed by David Sucker who directed plane Audrey wants. As Leslie Nielsen you know. Just. That stuff is a lot of fun and it was actually I was the first scary movie. I'd seen because when it came out, it was it's rated pg thirteen. So I was able to see it. I couldn't see the other two initially and don't parts of the other two that I liked some reason. The third one will always always make me laugh at the parody of. Eight mile and then followed up with signs and then the kid that she keeps forgetting. You know out affairs I think is is much funnier. In that and also may personally I actually Kinda liked her as a lawn more than likely with? The black hair. So yeah. Yes so that's my. All right, Quinn it us with number three on your tough lab list number three in my top five this one. Need to watch her every year all these you need to watch. Year. With this one and it's funny because now they've done. It in two, thousand, eighteen. Sequels coming out for it with Jamie Lee. Curtis. A No go on you know you're going with this and this has been an icon on like forty years and has on the year that I was born. Nineteen seventy eight gotTA watch Halloween. The everything from the John Carpenter the music that direction. And just Jamie Lee. Curtis. You know. Scream Queen herself. Sir and. Mike Myers. Only. Yeah. If everyone to people if people didn't know because this this episode, we actually the first time I have music beginning of. The music you heard the very beginning was the Halloween thing that. Very cool. It will be rather post. Halloween I actually have seen that movie still scares the hell on me. And Jamie Lee Curtis then became known as the screen after that that was her first big big movie You know and besides besides true lies. A fish called Wanda Alien. And Trading places. This is my favorite performance of Jamie Lee Curtis she did she blew this one are. Absolutely, grow and John Carpenter of courses. The miser. I could put the thing because that's another one of his. So my number three is again one that I I kind of agree that this one you need to watch every year. Coming to us from nineteen, eighty two. And coming out of an interesting time with our the producer and writer. I'm talking about poltergeists. that. You know that's really let's. Move. Is Up is up. My it's not on my top five but awesome they pig. Directed, by Tobe, hooper written by Spielberg and Michael Great Grayson Mark Victor starring Jo Beth Williams Craig t Nelson the late great work and beatrice straight right off her. Oscar win for network. she had just done that this came out of This just came out of Spielberg just wanting to scare the hell out of one and. This is one of the besides close encounters an AI. This is the only other. Steven Spielberg, film that he actually did write the screenplay for that write the screenplay and it's it's He was making it the same time as e t he was making. Around the same time, which is clean direct, that's why he really Clinton direct it. Yeah. He, always said that if if et was dream that poltergeist a nightmare or something like. that. Yeah. You know and and what's funny is when it came out in nineteen, eighty two. It it took the box office. But when he came along Spielberg had one to. T number one poltergeist number two, and it's and you know it's it's got some creepy stuff in it I always fast forward when a guy. is in the kitchen and The. Beasts. Beats a state or In. Aerospace off. An end for those who don't know the hands, Terry Lewis the off the off of the face you know, right? burks works. By that is my favorite I don't. Know scrape movies out of all of the movies of all time poltergeist is my favorite movie of all. Time. Longest. I love it the music and Zach the special effects for eighty two Marvin. I, love it. The action was. Acting backing was wonderful and there's a lot of great stories about poltergeist. So if anyone wants to look up on Youtube, they have a couple of Things, AG Benza host one of there's a lot of things about it and I also didn't mention the one of the other actresses. A John McDevitt went fortunately died on came out skill by her boyfriend Zelda Rubinstein all robbings. Great. Great Actors, and if feels it definitely feels like Spielberg. Yes movie you didn't know Tober who often Texas. chainsaw massacre on fame directed at it still feels like Spielberg movie by one my movies. Quinn, give us another momentum. Okay this Arwa mentioned dis- came out. By a great director when my all time favorite directors in nineteen. Nine Hundred Sixty distracter would let anyone into the theater after the movie began on. No. No this will be eight. And This because we talked about Halloween and Jamie Lee Curtis this stars her mother and. Her famous shower scene in psycho. Psycho, the whole movie itself. So use it by Ron Herman. Eddie Perkins as Norman Beads it just I love it. It's everything. I had a film class where we Dissect movies we watched we watched his gain is expected it. And Psycho one of the. It was awesome. How about you? It's one. That's a great great movie. I've seen a SORTA longtime ago against so scared and I've only seen bits and pieces I need to see it again I did uh unfortunately see gus fans. Sean remake of it and it's terrible. It's Money with my brother and his friend. ALMA. God we look we laughed at at the time. But what's great is also they fixed because I have been watching a couple episodes of base motel with Freddie Oh. Yes and bear from Meka and it's a wonderful wonderful tree. was. appreciated. But Alfred Hitchcock and also there's a website been on sponsor but call trailers from Hell where you can see the original trailer of. Psycho where Alfred Hitchcock actually shows you the Bates Motel and teach you for tour. It's absolutely amazing. But Yeah One of the only movies I know for a fact, sides scream with a Jew warned than the lead actress, the top bill actress is killed off in. Twenty minutes she's in the movie. Yeah. quit how many more Oliver mentioned you have just as I'm looking at the. Four four. Okay. All right why don't you give us them? Absolutely. This one. As. Has My, favorite heart character of all time. It's. It's Michael Myers is second this guy. This guy. Watch. The very first mini. Makes them out to these airy. And it's done in the style of Wes Craven. Display smooth and made him star this movie you what you see the green, the green and red Christmas sweater. Nights on the hands burnt. No. I'm talking about Freddy Krueger Nineteen Eighty Force nightmare on ELM street. Such And this is before he became a punchline because he becomes more. Comical like. Want, get a personality. and. AM. I. Am I. Wrong. But Johnny Depp some that young transgender Smith I will be giant APP is in not just. Held over you but I couldn't sleep week after saw that one. Narrow street great great movie I I'm going to do a quick one because quitting Ari mentioned it by another honorable mention for myself. You got to focus nineteen ninety-three yesterday focused comedy with Bette. Midler. Surgical. Parker. Kathy Jemaine sort a young young thor birch an army Katzen Minnesota. And filmed. In Massachusetts in Salem Massachusetts not too far from where we are and it's a wonderful movie. It's still on It's on Disney loss now. And in the process, they are making a sequel which were started original three actresses but just a funny silly. Movie it it. Some of it doesn't make sense. But. It's just really just silly and funny and and and we're you can you were other movie? Can you see Gary Marshall and his sister play Marshall playing American couple. That's right. Yeah. and one of my favorite scenes entire movie. One of my favorite scenes on the entire movie is the second time when they don't have the brooms. And Fly and I think bette. Midler is on a regular groom Sarah Jessica Parker's on Bob Have is on out. Back. Cleaner. A. One less they've movies and one thing you might not know but Leo DiCaprio was originally. offered the part of Max Max that's right. It which which then went to on cats, and this is one of the last. I think are maybe there's a couple more but one of the last movies the late Charles rocket is it Yes, that's why police the Father Radio. Yes people's father very, very good performance very good actor under underrated contract to that i. wish you had done more but it's also now known the Santa's Sandison sisters are. When there was Mickey's not so scary Halloween Party Disneyworld Day would come out and do their song, which is one of the big highlight moments because you get that mettler singing I spell on. which is of the best moments of. A film zone out. So you know you can't Kim Gambling A. Quick, give us your on number two. We are number two at this point. I say like all the movies you have to watch every year but this one, this is a two movie kind of thing 'cause you can watch it at night. And you can also watch at. Christmas. Earlier. Talked about it you last podcast Tim Burton's. Before Christmas but. It's such a great. Great. Great. Ending. And the Immigrants Jackson for Halloween. Like. If we ever ever do a musical play out rather I wanNA be on assets. It's a great. Love the movie I love. Donny, Osmond actually sings. Who Does the voice do you now? Chris. Sheridan from. Princess Bride. Yes, this is pride. Humperdinck Dick Unprotected. Right, which is really funny which is really funny when you think about it now. Yeah Great. Movie Henry Select Directing Tim Berne producing. It's mostly Tim Burns vision of course, Danny off men. Of course, we talked about last time and yeah, a great gregory but Yes. Definitely one that you can watch on Halloween antiquated comes back for Chris was one. You can do on Christmas to. Absolute All right. So so my number two, which might surprise you quitting because it is kind of scary movie, but it's an old fashioned. Scary movie. It was mentioned earlier in the podcast. So it is in the national in the Library of Congress National Film Registry Ended up having a bunch sequels afterwards. So very version you know they have simple spot it made. A movie the IT made scary made a brilliant star universal monsters. I have in course talking about nineteen thirty one's Frankenstein James Whale's Frankenstein which, of course, as everyone. Knows starred Boris Karloff. Is. Is the monster. Scary. Scary. freaky movie. just. UNTHINKING, of Frankenstein, running around yelling it's. And it's not way gene wilder does but it's just so freaky and and scary and then. The the disturb most disturbance. In that movie to me. Maybe, it's because I have a son now, but it's disturbing. Him in the little girl. Always, freak me out and so one of my favorite movies, black and whites and. It led to brighter Frankenstein, and I think it was son of Frankenstein I know. Took a day I. watched. Those black and white harm movies I watched. But you know what? As you're watching it this the the sound of the start, the the Styrofoam, the the celluloid. That using creepy by itself. No. Bun. Watch can sign. My favorite creature blacken my film is creature from the Black Lagoon. Yeah. I I just recently I recently bought all of them. Dracula. Young Black Lagoon. Obviously Frankenstein bride of Frankenstein and. Thank you which actually a quick story might father saw the mummy on television back in the day when he was a kid and he had nightmares for three weeks, just not as he's because of the image of the. I love it he. Got So freaked out and ever since then my father can't watch. Movies are. The one thing I was gonNA say his. Mellberg's said a great joke when he was promoting Frankenstein seems talking about James Wales and do the sequels and he said something like He says, yeah, you know the Frankenstein. Caper to bride, of Frankenstein. Then there was the son of Frankenstein and then it goes to Frankenstein and then he says, end the new one Frankenstein's best friend Murray. and the Wolfman and yes again, and for those who don't realize what universal monsters nearly trying to do is that it did that was the avengers back in that time you always. Then show up in the character would show up from another movie in there like someone from Dracula. The. Wolfman. Is Like Abbott and Costello And that's the other thing they did. and. I was going to say bride of Frankenstein has one of the best lines in the entire movie in the entire history of of of universal monsters where he says. A toast to a word of God months. Yes This is what they were trying to do with universal with the dark universe which didn't work with Tom. Cruise, is mommy. Got No no. All right, give us another mentioned. Auto mention this one. Is One that. Always need to watch and it's it's timeless and you have to watch. Just. Even the trailer. Shows. An elevator. And you know. Just. The credits roll not from the top cream from the bottom of the screen. In Stanley Kubrick's production. Sin Shall Youtube all. You see the shining and I was sudden you see blood come out of the elevator and you know you're gonNA stay in for a treat because listeners haven't watched Stanley Kubrick shining. You GotTa Watch bid you have to it's a credible the music from the intro from the from the on that helicopter shot going into the car just. Everything. Famously, Stephen King was not a fan of that movie was. But I love that movie it's such such a good movie. And I don't personally find it I. Don't find it scary like I do the excess I. Find it psychologically schedule. Yes. Yes. That's more. I think as I don't i. Just, gets in your head and you and all the images like wonder what hell that was reprimanded Guy Justice though the dog and the woman and it's my God and then. One of the scariest lines of the entire movie is. The Butler say to him. About listening to him A. I'm sorry to differ with you sir. Yeah but. You other. Cats. Always been. My. Favorite scene is the party's the party, the party guest in the hallway. rant hardy gets in the Hallway Great Party is. I love it. Have you seen room to thirty seven have? documented. The documentary is a documentary where. I don't know like by it but this whole thing that the shining is Stanley Kubrick pit. He was trying to explain native American genocide and and I believe that the fact that he that the moon landing state. I don't think it was faked but I You know. Leave us a machos. List need to watch when two, three seven they just theories about Stanley Kubrick in his movies and baby. True. Maybe not true. It's up to us to figure it out. It's up to the to the viewer. All right. So I'm going to do another one. This is another one that. Actually I just re watched recently and I forgot how amazing this film is All There's no CGI. It's all. Basic. effects old fashioned tricks. Just rowing brilliant movie. That came out of the mind of man who would eventually go onto direct. Mrs doubtfire and home alone movies. I'm talking about Gremlins Baby. That's Joe Dante. Jones directed at Chris. Chris. And Steven Spielberg produced it. Actually seems he's in the movie. Yes. I Will Cherry. But Zach, Galligan, phoebe. cates. The amazing album. As secret thrown but the amazing ignore. A. Actor. Poli polly Holliday. All. White Hoyt accident and the voice of Howie Mandel as our little gizmo has that's my favorite Christmas Harvey all time. Yeah, it's another it's another one of those movies that could be both. eight hours and and Christmas. Yeah, it's an. Amazing. Movie. My favorite shot is when they kill Miss deal when she goes with the stairmaster goes up. And the shot of her coming out the window and fault. That was. One of my favorite movies. Yeah. which out even before that, and they're seeing her the scene, Christmas cows to her and it's great. Great. Anyone hasn't seen Gremlins by now like on the no, it's. It's really funny that this the movie predates. Who Framed Roger Rabbit yes. But there's a Disney reference business lunch at Disney references in there and I think that might be thanks to Joe Dante although Spielberg probably who was able to license some of the stuff from Disney I mean only Spielberg could do and it's running those movies that. It was right around the time of Indiana Jones temporal doom with new. Yeah where the new rating system had not gotten got into place in people were wondering if this was part of it, this was before. PG, thirteen was. Otherwise, this and probably temple dome. PG Thirteen ours. And that's another insolence flu Spielberg as well because Spielberg mentioned it to the President of the Motion Picture Association at the time. So but million brain by moving. Quick, give us another how many more. I got to, and you know what they're by the same director, the by the same director Tuber. First one he did nineteen seventy or it was Texas chainsaw massacre Oh yeah. We talk all we have. Watch it. Great Great Marilyn Burns fat. Gutter Hanson as leather face now the great heart heart chainsaw. Just For the longest time I thought someone had full beer. I think maybe over Huber told me thinking that it was a true story and finally it came out that it was a true but some of it was. Titled, WHO's based on at deem, idol. Yeah. Yes. So it wasn't. was who did it, but it wasn't someone who did it as brutal as leather face, but But yeah. That is. That is such such variant movie in one of those, it's it's one of those things where I wish back in the day I think it would be scared if if they had done it as a found. Found video found footage film you know me and like someone found it. And they saw this like like borderline snuff film. Kinda, thought that that would been how they left up to Blair witch internal. That's true. That's all and that was toby hooper's claim to fame. Yes and then Spielberg Ashley deceased he saw data fun. It was that a lot of fun housed saw. Is Directing Style and asked him to direct poltergeist wilt. Rather run around is supposed to guys. Aren't upper done but poltergeist. Never, get tired I have seen them. So. I will just say two more harm movies just to finish everything up before we get into a number one So the first one is one unit mentioned which I was very surprised out maybe you've never seen it again John Carpenter. Movie. Starring Keith. Gordon. Between Stan. I saw when I was very, very young when my father showed it to me and I love that movie a sense. It doesn't scare me does not scamming. Scary. Now with cars driving themselves, it's probably a little bit more scary by. But? Brilliant. Brilliant brilliant movie love that car and. Just Steven Steven. Steven, King. Best. Let's say yes and then just rather be. Resort Honorable Mentions i. have to talk about this one movie. Again, we're talking about breed acting. With And it's funny that I put this one on and not movie based on. But this one I love better for some reason I think they could get away with more and by the actor on talking about Bram Stoker's Dracula direct. Yes. Written by Francis Ford Coppola. With the amazing Mazen Gary Mariel yes in busy with Renault Rier. CANNERIES and the amazing Anthony Hopkins as. Then else Brilliant. Brilliant brilliant model. And I really think they get into things ally. Easily or more easily than they could. Probably. You know. It's a It's a it. It does have a seventy two percent on Rodney. Some people don't like certain parts of I love. Me To my life style directing I liked I thought Gary Oldman in. Such a Great Dracula and and as we were talking about the older movies, this one like a nice perspective and we're not we're not rider. Forms everyone must go and meet. A. Lot but I like I liked him and he the best he could and. Studio choice that they imposed on top love which it happens but he he skip get something from him and this was only the second big like the second cat a movie that Oltman had done before he got into the big class before then he had it's Sydney beg your sitting down see where he played seditious and there was another one he played a playwright who is who is homosexual. Kim. Of, the name of the movie Romeo is bleeding or something different thousands else announced but those with like the more mainstream lines before and then he blew up been was doing all the other movies he's been doing and became the chameleon 'cause then he did JFK. Swan all these great movies All right. So we are down to the last bit down to the ends. We've gone through this. We've gone through our pensions we've gone to the so. Andrew Queenie, my friend, my buddy. Mike Companion. I WanNa know from you. WHAT IS THE NUMBER ONE Movie that you watch around Halloween number number. One. Is Not only. Based around Halloween, but also a ghost story, it's also. A murder mystery, it's also said. It was a kmart, Nineteen eighty-eight but as I it set in nineteen, sixty two. And this boy. Get hit this this young boy gets locked in his the school closet by guess, the classmates has and he witnesses ghost a little girl looking for mother. And he witnesses her getting. Killed and then. He himself gets gets I. Don't WanNa give the whole movie away, but it's basically Him trying to solve the mystery of a ghost girl trying to find her mother. Also of this Child killer I mean in the town. Going after kids not just. But this one stars Lucas has. Katherine? Helmond. And you need to watch it. It's called lady and Y. Yes also. I. Love. Music. The story of IT I. Love Everything about it. I. Don't WanNa give any listeners you need to watch this movie has it since it's Young, a young Lukas Haas of mamsted. Around, witnessed to that. was. On Well. Yeah. I I've never seen that I've heard of it and it has been recommended not just by you. But a couple of my friends who to know I want movies that kind of thing. But it is. It's Stereo I. Know I've heard. All. Right. Question number one is lady lady white one for one of the movie now, my number one. We have mentioned before and it did make ways list earlier I ended up with, of course, the exorcist. Gary Movie. I've ever seen in my life and I think it's part of the fact that I was raised Catholic. I consider myself a recovering Catholic personally and I think just the scariness of the devil and all the things that come right. Actually had that as wide change, my less hobby times, but I add that movie is number one but you. To. Rearrange it. We range movie ranges but yeah, that was heart because the exorcist is Thomas it it's it's. And none of. The exorcist in terms of the original but freaking has made several additional changes in there is a director's cut now in there, which makes it even more scary and Freaky, and then when you hear about all the things that happen during the production and just as a quick story and I can't remember I told you about this. So my wife her one of her. Best friends and her maid of honor. was. Getting. Married in Georgetown. On the Georgetown University campus. Yes. When we first got together, this was Like I first away. So we stayed in DC and we took a bus over to the Georgetown University to off to do. So we were that Meghan within the. Wedding party. So we had to be there for the hersal dinner which was. You know anyone anyone out there who has a girl who has to be a maid of honor? It's the best Gig in the world for the guy has the guy all he has to do with show hunt with the girl get a free. Dinner at, he could sleep in the girl has to do. A. But Anyway we went to dinner with everyone and we had a great time a wonderful wonderful dinner with. All these friends that we met with their stemming I table we all got along so well laughing laughing laughing, and then we come out. and. I. Look outside and I look like across something I'm like. Oh my God no the not just the stairs the. Probability that the. Building that. was. Like so we're like, oh, we should go check it out some went to go check it out. You know looking at it and then we see the stairs going down. I need to visit. Bucket list. But here's the other thing that happened to. So. It was. It was a six of us No five us The three guys we actually walked down the stairs to the very bottom because you're like, why not you were there the the wives of the girlfriends they stay up on the top and went down and I remember looking up realizing house like this is frigging and it was in the middle of it was nighttime like manner ten o'clock I was freaked out. So we were like, okay let's let's go. So we walked back up the stairs and one of the wise takes a picture of US walking up. And I never saw the picture, but I'll but she claims is what she claims that in the picture is a light light across our next. Play coming across at necks and she was so freaked out, she deleted the photo and she wouldn't show. No she didn't it was. offline but yeah, I was there. They film the exorcist owns not things and it was so freaky it was awesome. So so That's my buddy I need visit that place yeah it's. It's. It's worth it. It definitely is worth it but. The. New Way that is our top five movies to watch her on Halloween. If Wanted to your personal famous is not there you're more than welcome to You know right right his back and say, this is my favorite or give us on top five. I'd love to hear from you Queenie. 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Ep. 2,883: Duke Roufus, Juan Archuleta and Dhafir Harris

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Ep. 2,883: Duke Roufus, Juan Archuleta and Dhafir Harris

"Mason. Took you roll baby on AmEx junkie radio with gorgeous, George, and this is what we do. We do it baby. We. Covering it may from all over the world. This is the premier stop for all your combat sports needs. And that may junkie radio the only show broadcasting live from the Mandalay bay resort and casino in the fight capital of the world, Las Vegas, Nevada. The lights are on and the Mike her heart. It's time to get your MA fix junkies. Take it away. Big John, gorgeous, George goes. Are you ready junkie? Ridden. Live from Las Vegas, the pike capital of the world to be exact remain donkey radio. I am goes to my left is Dan, Tom gorgeous, George's close by and tonight filling in for Chilton Josh got not too shabby. What's up Gabby? How are you ready for this? You're gonna be with us for a week. Right. I know how excited are you wanna ten that? You get me every day the show will be stacked with. Geez, I'll be telling you that much. I feel like if I were to say ten gave the disrespectful to Josh. So I'm gonna say nine I'm excited nine nine. I will take nine that's a straw on your end me. Obviously. Okay, right. Yeah. We so exciting. Here's how today's show is going to run down. We do have three guess today. We have five thousand he's going to be competing bare knuckle now when you bring bare knuckle, and you bring up Dada five thousand say nothing new to him some that he started off with we're going to talk to him. We're gonna talk to Rufus big win this weekend. We'll be talking to featherweight one arch. Aleta they're going to be coming up here on the today show and. Show on today show. I. If this was today show could be I'll Rooker. I don't even know who's left more of a Matt Lauer, I dunno. I'll got the good CD usually between the attractive chicks. Right. And he just smiles really creepy like my. All right. Sorry about that. I wanted to get any earnings back. Is this check earn? All right. Chuck is one of the five trophies won by may junkie for best media source, and they had been holding onto it. And so I left actually early today. Yeah. Yeah. But man crossing across town during these hours, I've never done that since we switched the show. So I was driving around and got him. And he's he's back to some of you, Mr. Chuck skews me because he was getting fixed. So we kind of fell apart. Did you show? But pointing fingers as but he's back and we're ready to go this past weekend. You've seen Nashville took place goes already told you about I guess, let's start with UC Nashville took place on Saturday night in national, obviously. And. Guys. I did not see that one coming before we get into the beautiful KO that Anthony pets late on. Stephen Thompson, anybody that took Thomson. You ain't crazy, and I ain't pointing my finger at you in anyway. Because Stephen Thompson was having a pretty good fight up until eight Thomson Esq fight dare I say he was even more exciting than some of his previous fights that didn't have as much action. Where we've come to, you know, we've come to expect that a little bit from Thomson earlier on in his career. He had kind of become a little bit more of a chess player and this. He was he was taking it depends. Now that said he wasn't it wasn't a slobber knocker or anything like that. But he was going after them in my opinion. He would have banked to second round. And I think I was saying to myself, not that's what you get because I would never say that to fighter but something along the lines of bro. This just isn't your division to Anthony Pettus member PETA's a guy who had fifty five once dropped a forty five because a fifty five he's not one of those bigger air quotes, bigger type fifty five hours out there. And so when he announced that he would be able to drop the forty five I think we all said, yeah, I could see that. He's not like bone density thick frame pet is he's not that type of guy. So going up to seventy what are you doing? But remember that campus study wonderboy? For a few fights. And I think they kind of knew what they were doing that. There might be passed victory here and end look Pettus at this particular moment, just isn't in the title picture for fifty five. A he's not working off. A winced. Be that just on old. The champion is not gonna fight till November it appears. And there's these wildcards like a Conor McGregor who can jump. The queue max Holloway coming up from forty five who can also jump the queue becoming an interim champion. So there's a lot. There's a lot of wild card stuff happening there fifty five that a guy like Anthony pet could just go out there and explore something different. Like a fun match. There's air quotes again versus Stephen Thompson. And he did. And I thought it was blowing and tile he delivered. What was it? What is it? 'cause he named the Showtime punch. It was it was a superman hook per se. Right. I mean, this is of the forces moments that I'm glad I'm an EMMY fan. Am I mean media because you just don't see those too often? And I mean, he turned his lights off with that first punt and then to vicious ups. Thank god. Herb dean went in there to stop Anthony from doling out even more damage, but how about that main event boys react to that shoot? It totally Comey right by Pizon Dios thinking about was this is one of the classes where there's a bigger gap. Right. It's not ten pounds jump up fifteen pounds. If you're gonna do that from directing to one seventy hover if because notice like a lot of the guys that have gone up and done that I've actually been somewhat successful. Right. You just said on them. I'm sorry. If we throw in like surrounding Donald Cerrone one Anderson's done it Maswadeh done it RDA RDA's done it. Right. They've been pretty successful at going up and doing this. And I've wondered why is that with such a big gap like that? But the one thing that's the rate fighters all those guys pretty damn pretty Dale good or. Former champions. But yeah, it's the confidence that they've had at no time. Did they ever did? Anthony, really give you that. Look like, oh my God. I I didn't realize how big Stephen was gonna be in front of me or he just had this the stair the whole fight. And and get I mean, I wouldn't say Stephen Thompson was taken it to him. But he was clearly winning the fight at now. And you're right. It was we're used to kind of like a defensive Stephen Thompson that does just enough to win rounds. And in this one it seemed like a guy that was really trying to go out there and set a pace, right? Little different from him. Home in Liverpool to happen to them again. Which is for it to be close for him to lose a decision that you wanted to take the fight into his own Anthony, I thought we saw a little bit more of a patient Anthony, and he just picked the right shot at the right time. And wow, I mean to me it completely shot me you guys. I can't remember who exactly you took. But I mean, I took Tom. Yeah. Yeah. Guys, man, is it was it was it was a crazy one. Indeed. And just finish off in the note. You guys are saying, I think you're right. You know, kind of like what George said he wanted to take control of it. And I think you could tell that even going into fight week. You know, Stephen Thompson almost had this confidence about him. And I think you know, it was it was the matchup. I don't think he's a arrogant guy who, you know, buys into his own headline so to speak. I think Thompson's really good at staying grounded. But I think it was that confidence. A lot of what George said he didn't want the repeat of what happened with till? He saw it as a good matchup. And and I and I agree. You know, I thought he was going to be able to explain his boxing, actually, not so much kicks with Pettus with one two's down the pipe. That's what I said. And that's what we saw happen. I would I would argue that he was peace and Anthony Pettus up. Pretty good e- busted his nose a really bad. It was just bleeding all over, you know, Thompson Malia blood on him. You know from the headlines I'm reading coming out since then it sounds like I mean, obviously Thompsons all class. No one's. Prize at that, right guys. But he kind of supports this theory that we're kind of talking about here where he was saying himself. I was a bit overconfident. That's what you get. When you think that, you know, the guy can't touch you? And I'll, wow this is easier than I thought, and you know, again, he's not an arrogant guy. He's being very honest, and I respect that honesty from Thomson, especially after a loss. And when we saw it happen there when the other side with Pettus I picked against him here. And yes, it is worrisome that, you know, Pettus his only three stoppage of his only three stoppage losses of his career guys came in his last five fights before last Saturday, right? It's kind of a troubling trend. So he he he's only been stopped three times his career and Pettus. Anthony wasn't stop three times. Right. And all those three times came within his last five fights heading into Saturday. Right. Yep. Max twenty Ferguson Bergersen. Norfolk. And so I mean, and those were wars and stuff a he he he was hurt before those things stopped. And you know, he's like riverside you go back early in his career. Anthony, Pettus is broken arm. Come back and wanna fight with a head kick granted amateur level or earlier pro level. But man, you can't write Anthony Pettus off. And again, I know him saying this is somebody that picked against them on Saturday night. But you know, that's something you can't write off. This guy's really got that championship level. Hartman, regardless of what you think he can do it either division. You gotta respect Anthony Pettis because it was not going as wait until he got that finish. So if you are Thompson. Look, of course, it's Monday morning quarterback Monday and quarterbacks primetime show. But if you're Thompson think about it you've been in there with till whose massive till was bigger than Thomson the way Thompson was bigger than that is he's been in their fifty minutes. Tyron Woodley oser too hard hitters. He's been in the with Robert Whitaker. He's been in there with a lot of tastes Ella. Burger right hand a lot of big dudes Johnny Hendrix. So the fact that you've already been in there. I guess you you couldn't fall to guy for being over confident. Like, you don't want somebody. You don't want to you know, in their acting like Jesse the body of encourages flicking, sweat like you can't even read my air, nothing like that. Who said that by that as their? I think. Yeah. Yeah. So you can't get to that bad of a level. But I can understand somebody walking in there. You know, you've seen them all week you faced off against them against them. You know, you're rehydrating to a bigger human being than that person. Twenty four hours later thirty six hours later now at the new wayans, and then I'm fight night. Kind of having your way with them. Yeah. So for that punch the way it came out of nowhere. It was it was so money. I think Thomson will just have to learn from it. But he really didn't have nothing in his kickboxing career nothing in his career. That said, you know, a punch like that be on the lookout for it. You know what I mean? It's not what the scouting reports but credit to Anthony Pettus for going out there. And throwing that punch now setting it up. Also, we haven't really touched too much on that with those lower leg kicks. Yes. You know? Because Thompson, what is he mostly known for? If he's not striking that movement. Correct. Being able to dart in and out being able to use that distance. You gotta use your legs for that. But if you start chopping away at those legs, then guess what you have a little bit less of every time. You get your legs chopped off movement and Anthony Pettus invested early in that and it costs them probably a broken nose and losing a round on his way to losing the second. But it paid off because you know, I don't know if that if that lack of movement may be caused pedestal just be able to spring and catch him, or if he was paying attention to the possibility of a leg kick, once doesn't it's not always the ones that hurts. Not just that. It's the possibility of somebody just throwing that next one, you know, because you know, they're starting to cumulate so being able to faint a leg kick or just having that on on his mind you invested in that early paid off. Yeah. Definitely I'm glad you brought the low kicks Credit's due group because you've got to imagine that kind of come. From his school camp. I mean, he's went through the trials and tribulations where I know Joe Rogan ause references in his podcast go to their early. Rick Rufus Duke Rufus flights. They were criticizing kicks writing. That's cheap. And I get that. Because I I like do kind of came from that traditional base rate of the more American style kickboxing karate that was taken over in the nineties, but Duke evolved, obviously, coach world champions. And he really does understand that style. I mean, there's a lot of people that criticize that style unfairly I think especially with the Stephen Thompson who doesn't cooperate other things into do karate, boxing and stuff, right guys. But there is a lot of truth to where we saw it with Shokhin Machida fighter McConnell reminded me of both the Shogo Machida fights combined into one we saw delay kicks having having play right quietly. Even though maybe it wasn't enough to win rounds. And either fight I guess you could say but want y'all one not the LA one, right? The LA Lakers. The the Montreal ice them, right? Yeah. What I'm saying? Is that Anthony pedestals fight with Thomson was emerging of both both those lessons. Right because we got the leg kicks that were cut the. It was a decision that everybody scored for show gun, but for like IX damaged machine ended up getting it one of four think in LA. That Kim Alaska's and Rothwell and sounds about right. Remember, but. Yeah. And and then yeah. In montreal. What did he do? He waited any countered with with the right hand something that, you know, Woodley tried to do was able to do but not finish the fight. But able to win his fights Thompson was so we've seen the blueprint out there. And you guys are and I don't think anybody no one called US Super hand. Right punch. Right hook. I don't even know what to call it. You know, guys. But what I did say was that counter right hands have been as culprit now, I just referenced Tyron Woodley. But Jake Ellen Berger dropped him with one pretty seriously before Ellen Berger finish ROY McDonald, even hit a good one two as well. So it was there. But I wasn't sure the power could translate, you know, Anthony, Pettus deceptive counter Hannam, and he was even hitting our with pretty good in the fourth round of their fight. We remember that as an RDA domination, but begin Pettus is dog. He's in there. And he has that right hand. I wasn't convinced. The power was gonna translate. Boy was I many wrong. You know, what it is with him? Because even if you go back to Tony Ferguson filing. He landed a lot of shots in that. I thought he looks pretty good until what happened right? Yes. But I don't a lot of people point to like his lifestyle mental things because we all know, he's got the physical tools told us on the show that they've had a budding of heads and a separation whether it's just don't come to the gym, or or or, you know. Like scolding him. You know what I mean? And or they go periods of time where he is going to the gym, but they're not talking. So they've had those ups and downs. And, but I believe if you ago, he was I think it was he told his prior to the poor guy that Anthony was able to come in and say, all right. Let's do this. You know? So even in the poi- fight that he lost because of the rib even in the Ferguson fight that he lost. Because even though Anthony was great that night. I just greater he was performing kinda like like the Anthony of old the end from from WC like Atta championship level championship level fighters. He was coming up short because and I it's you know, I can't say this enough. Golden State Warriors have won three of the last four world titles. They're just not gonna win every game during the regular season. Right. You know, the bulls the Lakers and Celtics the patriots, whoever they're just not. You're not gonna win all of them. It's unlike the very couple that we can name from boxing cows. He may whether. Rocky Marciano three the I remember, you know, and that's it remains different man. You're just gonna take some of these ELS along the way. And that's why it's gotta be gotta be perfectly timed. Now, you mentioned RDA, and I wanna move to something else here. He wants that one back Anthony Pettus does, but RDA is a welterweight more importantly, he's a welterweight. We've gotta fight coming up because over the weekend we found out he's fighting Kevin Lee. So it will tie into a daily debate that we're going to have. But it's interesting how what I wanted to circle back to is not not necessarily that. But just the fact that Pettus timing. That's what I want to get to timing as a lightweight. He's nowhere near a title shot. But guess what I'm gonna? You know, my into welterweight and see what's up. I think he's jumping the queue a little bit too much thinking, he's all ranked fighter. And that's something. I worked on a little bit today. He's not gonna be ranked welterweight. I mean, there's well trades putting in work Anthony, no disrespect. But I think you can maybe matching up with another lightweight who's dabbling at welterweight or just a well to isn't booked. Sure. There's some fun fights for him up there. But I think more than poorly fifty five is important is is the better spot for them. And I like that he said, maybe the winner of Barboza engaging count me in if that happens, but RDA his name is being picked off Maswadeh all just had a successful win. At till. Let's not forget MAs would also lost. The Thompson who lost till are. Sorry, Mazda beat sorry, Muslim lost. The Thompson Thompson loss to till until lost to mazal. So there's like these round, Robin. That are taking place and right now, I I like the fact that there's fighters that are being smart with their careers and going up they're getting a paycheck and in taking on fights that won't necessarily hurt them because the pet is lost that fight. I don't think anybody would be going. What was he thinking? Stock wouldn't drop the lightweights are invading welterweight guys. And I don't want to you know, try chat too much on something. We'll tackle George alluded to. But what you're saying George first of all for rankings? I don't know where I put them. But before I know where you're gonna put him I will say hats off to you or anybody wanting to hold their ground as far as rankings wise, maybe not ringing better than not saying that the hit on Pettus. We're just getting done praising them, and rightfully so here guys, but rankings to me really feel like I think fighters kind of accepted that all they don't really mean anything into to use that very crew descriptors. But at the same sense when a fighter does something like pedestals, they're the first ones to go. Oh, well, he was gone. Goshi from this. Exactly. And don't get me wrong. I think fighters should have plenty of tools, negotiate. But if we are going to have some, you know, just like we're gonna talk about rankings who get I if if we're going to criticize the US or other organizations for not doing things through America Takeuchi, I feel we can't be hypocrites ourselves. So Bravo to you. Anybody else holding ranking positions who cut a hole firm on that stuff? Don't just go with the wind. So to speak is that can be dangerous. You know? Maybe that's why you do the slow and slow out George. I do. Yeah. I like the fighters to work their way in and work their way out because the next fight in the one after that, they just become more telling and more telling of where the fighter actually really does belong. I don't hold a quality loss meaning somebody who's ahead of you or somebody who's just been a killer for years. There's difference between who you got who you lost to along the way it's all just this formula that after doing it for so long you just kind of get a feel for. But I understand the public perception of what they're thinking, you know, they're thinking holy said Pettus one more win. He's fighting for world title. There's actually people that think like that. They don't know that there's a Pons abo out there and Covington who's already booked and ask her who just came over from one championship Woodley who had four title defenses and wants one fight and then he wants to fight for world title. So that you're literally if you're backed up to three fights. 'cause what that's about a year. If you're healthy. It's crazy because it's a what have you done for me lately? Sports and the you'll see treats it that way sometimes as well when it's to their then. Yeah. Exactly this champion Barra that just won't end. Oh my God. It quick sat out the Tyron Woodley. He was solid solid on the post by begging. A Levy also doing brilliant work. It was a one two punch ESPN, plus you guys keep knocking it out of the park because he just kept bringing fighter after fighter and tyrant was very very humble in talking about look I want I wa. Wanna fight for that world title next. But also accepting that it doesn't look like it's gonna work out that way, even though many champions have had the opportunity to fight for the title. He's not he doesn't appear to be crying about it there on that little on that platform, they gave him. So I'm telling you that was really really solid work by him. And I'm glad that a lot of the fighters that they're kind of in of him because he really is. And was a great champion his career is not done, but he really really has done a lot and handled himself. Well, and I'm glad that the kind of paid them that respect, and I don't know he caught that or not. But a few of them. I mean, not like, oh my God man, kiss your hand. But just the fact that this is t- would want to best ever do it in asking me questions and excited about my career and talking to me the way he probably sat there and their spot and somebody talked to him, hopefully, he's getting DC respect or even when DC was at his low, and everybody's making fun of crying lose the title. You're not the real heavyweight champ. Even before he we wanted against Ozdemir. There was always no matter what. Period of time. There was always that respect kind of think you were talking about there. And yeah, he did do a great job. And I will say, you know, of course, I poked fun with the wrath thing like many others. But I would actually argue not just a Representative desk, which we are big proponent of here. You guys give plenty fighters a chance to shine their analysts when they when they sit down with you guys here as well. But I I would actually argue that maybe that the wrapping and whatnot you will see much more looser with his words much more comfortable with flowing. And it just it was on point was and just help Megan along to along the way, and by that I mean, not that she needs it or whatever, but she's still working her way through 'cause KP is kinda man that spot a little bit. You know, Jon Anik back in the day. And you do need a little bit of allegation from their fighter from the fighter. So he was doing that. They were working off each other very very well enjoyed it. Yeah. There's one more quick touchback on welterweight swell. I know. The first thing that popped the first choice. Choose like, someone randoms photo put on your to blast on your feet for Facebook. But a note is war on the what we're on the welterweight touch back on your previous point. I'm all about this. You know, RDA and Kevin Lee matchup. I do like that. But here's something I wanna get your opinion on this doesn't step on daily debates, and this seems like a UFC special where when a guy moves up, I notice it's either oh, you wanna move up in weight Hector Lombard will here's Anthony Smith is on his way to five and he's the complete opposite. Stature of you, either get that one which I'm not necessarily against or you get this one where they do all the time innermost feels the flooding to me, especially when you have a lot of these one twenty five or go you go up to one thirty five. Where would they give him a guy who's in the same book about what we don't really get to see him against the welterweight or higher this guy trying to make the same journey that is such an unreliable sample size because you know, one guy making the journey alone. It's kinda shaking like a guy go into a new team to maybe go back to the basketball now. We wanna see how how pans out. But now you have two guys feeling out any way class. Like who knows what the fuck is going to happen in this fight for one from analyst perspective. But also from for fun and matchmaking perspective on get your opinion. It doesn't do a lot from either. I think that's a Rochester, Kurt, right? Yeah. I think they just they need to fill main events, and sometimes it's not gonna make it easier to get give. But you notice they do that though, they even from backing the dad knows, oh, here's a guy. Like, this guy's doing the same thing. They'll come on. I wanna see him against a real. I would think the fighter maybe would want to find any positive in it. Like, I said that the weird thing is is actually really like this RDA filing for it. I find a lot of positives for excites me. I don't think it's a bad back step for them. Because you know, if Felli already it was getting putting that my position where we're like, here's a Brazilian with name will use to boost offer title shot, and you know, everybody would run they're kinda run their train off this guy. Now, it's my better IB, my better. Now, I beat RDA. I'd be you know, RDA still has a lot of fighting them. I don't wanna see him get written off to that that kind of gatekeeper role. Don't add fight. No. Wasn't a smaller cage. I think you would have done better good point point there. But so I mean, I'm not against the matchup. But I guess I'm just speaking of feels kind of the flooding when guys moving up, but then he's facing another former guy who was at a divisional. But don't they both just have sixty five written, although doesn't that sixty five written all over it hundred percent, George mazal one hundred and sixty five written all over him back. How Sarobi these guys are like suffering now because they're getting older. And so that cut just isn't as easy, and you see them suffering. And I know the takes notice it's not just the fighter saying, oh because we want more divisions. They're saying because that's what they really feel Anthony pet is. Well, I'm not I'm not so sure Pettus would be sixty five champion. I'm not saying that. But still the scare we had with Habib number made off. Tony ferguson. Also in that scene fight. The Habib went to the hospital the one that never happened that same fight. Tony was also from what I hear lightheaded in his cut. He did make it though. But still man there's there's it's pretty scary. And now, I think there's an investment of enough fighters and fights where we can circle back and go, okay. You don't have to be the biggest guy and now there are more divisions and this weekend I caught a little bit of March madness. And I see that a lot of their divisions aren't within ten either and circling back the boxing. I can't quote a multi by it goes twelve fifteen eighteen. Twenty twenty five thirty thirty five forty forty seven fifty four sixty sixty eight seventy five cruiserweight two hundred and heavyweight now only the last couple did you see anything more than ten? It ain't gonna remind you a boxing or anything. I think it just makes the sports safer. I agree. And Kevin Lee would be one of those top names. I would see it. But that division another incident and other top name. I would see the division would be a Kobe Covington for one sixty five as well. So like, you know, another positive Matt Serra could've been that sixty five and another positive RDA Kevin Lee matched up by the way. I may end up picking our D, And that I don't think people should be sleeping or writing off. All wrestlers gonna beat RDA. Like, I beg anybody warning warn them if they think that, but I'm just saved if Kevin Leded does beat already a like, you know, I mean, can you imagine if you beat him, and then just start starts beef with a guy like Colby Covington? Look the bills. These clash, and then if especially called the government were to win against it was Mon how that could jump guy. Kevin lee. So I mean, he's got pathways to excel at the division. It's a title the title. We're we're we're not really we're only putting into titles sixty five and seventy and we're removing seventy what's about that. We added when you take that thing at featherweight for the women's shitting happened in there, if you take that Peul fighters that we all we mentioned this last half hour. That's a great division. It's is that me arguably wind up being the best division like for the next five years. All right. We gotta take this break. You're listening to radio on fighting nation. Chelny three stay close will be right back. We're going to do our daily debate. We're gonna talk a little bit more Anthony Pettus who had a big win over. Stephen Thompson this past Saturday night. Into all of your favorite shows on devices equipped with Amazon, Alexa, just say, Alexa. Listen to Sirius XM nation. Okay. They were kicked off the set of the fast and furious for being too loud into good-looking. Once again, here's gorgeous, George and goes musician. Mojo Nixon lives and breathes racing so much that he was married at a go-cart track. It is unconventional take on NASCAR. Which dot says passion for Richard Perry. Petty skews me and window Scott with foghorn Leghorn references. It's a show. You've got to hear to understand checkout. Manifold destiny tonight at ten eastern on siriusxm NASCAR radio channel ninety. All. Right. We were talking about Anthony Pettus. And I knew we also needed to mention him in our daily debates we held off a little bit. But I think now's a good time for the daily debate. Brothers Garcia seemingly eighty. Eighty duck season product duck season. Whether it's through our feeling great, spelling place. Great gabbling, always bet on black red buck, Clark, black, dummy even social media Instagram. Snapchat. The same applies to the biggest stories. Time for ever may junkie radios debate. Today's hashtag daily debate question for at junkie radio. Who would you like to see Anthony Pettus fight after his win at hashtag? You've seen national goes. Oh, sorry. Choices Josie con immigrant, right Josie. Lightweight Conor McGregor at lightweight Robbie Lawler or other gives. All right. Let. Ever since that press conference when they brought up jobs as Aldo's name. I kinda thought man, I would just it just made sense love to see stylistically that matchup, but I'm not gonna pick it. Here's what I'm going to pick pick. Rob you out. That'd been good make sense. Yeah. It makes sense because of this. Right now, it seems like Ben aspirins is tied up. They're not gonna do that. Okay. Okay. But same camp. Okay. So maybe you could still keep the camps thing going. Basically, it's a buyer time match that I think works for both guys and stylistically fun. So I'm in. That's a big boy that Robbie lower and the back to back big do. All right. How about in harder puncher than Stephen Thompson? That knows hey, Robbie Lawler lost to loss of the last former lightweight champion face who's smaller by all specs by reach in height and Hoffa sign. Yeah. So maybe he wants to get back on the scoreboard show. Maybe my knees better. And here's what I do to light weights. And it's still a good match for both guys. I was tempted to go that way go you're going to do that. I I was tempted to go that way goes, but I went with other. Actually, I'm gonna go with some really, you know, really kinda hipster picks here guys that are are are are less sexy. But I think they work beautifully, and I will say two names because they are both guys on win streaks. They're both from South America. And they haven't really had that push out of South America yet, they both need that name and that sent yoga puns Nubia, who's still seemingly hustling for opponents. He feel like he's calling out a new guy every week. He's trying new scheme. Yeah. He's got to try new new Ponzi scheme or Eliezer Leschi to Santo. So I mean that guy could you imagine Koppel? With the spin kicks, Anthony Pettus. They both have Brazilian Jiu. Jitsu black belt is fun. No matter where it goes. And it's exactly what a guy like a at least the last couple Etta need. So I'll go with other with the caveat of to you know. Okay. So I like that one too though Santos puns anemia was in thinking about as much because I think he'll wind up with Woodley. That's just me predicting I could see that. But I really would like to see mas- Vidal impetuous. It's just it's too hard to walk pastors. No words and Mazda that fight just has to happen and their own matchmaking that night, right? And so with with with the fact that it just it's not likely, and Dan Tom took mine in Dosantos, I'm gonna I'm gonna circle back to the feeling. I got that. When when Anthony Pettus wore his red suit, and he told in a why I love the fight. Although I think although I just beating Frankie Edgar and pedestal like I got something for that guy. And I remember thinking. Oh, I'd love to see that. We all. Whoa. Why didn't we think of that? We didn't know pet us would like to go to forty five. But this question specifies at lightweight and goes didn't take it. So I'm going back five years to that feeling. I had of just being pumped up for matchup that gets. Meaning you just read about it or hear about it and use go, all here's my money. Take my money. I'm going to that fight. So that's it for me. Now this broke down. It was actually really really close dirty. One percent for Conor McGregor at lightweight. Thirty one percent for Robbie Lawler at lightweight or excuse me. Just Robbie Lawler twenty-seven percent for Josie Aldo at lightweight and eleven percent for other. And that's almost over four hundred votes that came in there, you have it. I got five bucks. It says my guy's gonna win who's your Robbie Lally? Oh, okay. Remember that? Although right witnesses here almost you're saying Aldo. Yeah. Oh that is going to actually get them at that. It's going to get the match Robby, really. Yeah. Coming in. What am I clown? Well. Threw me off. I think you all those got this fight though. He's got this infection that we might talk about later on. He's going to get over it. He's gonna Vulcan off ski. Right now. This is what happens when push comes to shove on the daily for five bucks. I'll do it. Right. All right. All right. That's the brought to you by the ever made junkie radio team. And thank you all for participating. Okay. I think we're gonna take our last break here. It's m e junkie radio on fight nation channel ninety three. When we come back last week, just to the I I we still got a whole hour to go. When we come back. We'll be talking to Dada five thousand. Fat. They gave Dracula diabetes here, your host courtes-, George and goes. All right, folks. We talked to our next guest Dada five thousand why don't you go to beat y be extreme dot com. And you can find out more about the B Y B brawl for it all which takes place on April fifth, and it's called bare knuckle brawling live from Cheyenne, ice and events we're gonna talk now to Dada five thousand he's behind this. What's up Datta? How you doing? Thank you for having me. Well, thank you for coming back on the enemy junkie radio show. It's always a blast. And we catch up with you and top it up. So Dada bare knuckle man, taking it back to the like the old days, right? There is no four ounce gloves here, it's bare knuckle, and I think that's kind of like your thing there. Tell you guys do it in the three oh five definitely, you know. And it's so interesting that you know, we are here. Because when I started this, you know, more than thirteen years ago. You know, I always envisioned that it will be here. So others. You know now that we are here and others are like they're on board. They can only imagine. How far I am right now. You know, and when you look at the triangle when you look at so many fascinating things that we are bringing you know, what I'm saying to the fore for we're gonna revolutionize the way that the world look at extreme reality, and it's going to start on April fifth on pay per view out inside my own. Why is it that so many? People are drawn to these backyard type of fights that now are transferring over and bring in bare knuckle, you know, up there with some of the other combat sports. Well, you have to look at it history. Pizza self before the gloves were on they were off. We're just reminding both of these sports boxing, and they may was originally came from when we say may the best man win. It's no additives, no preservatives. You know, these fights. You know, they are gritty they are grinding, you know, and they're on it. You know, when you put when when you look at you know, where we are today. You know, it's the take over you know, because then they definitely got boxing online support. And we're gonna have a both inside the same bed. You know, we're real were raw were authentic. You know, and again starting where we came from in the backyard we pride ourselves on getting corporate America, you know, take off their suits and ties and put. On the baseball cap. Tim come on down to sunny, south Florida. We all the greatest show on earth. Not Ringling Brothers. Barnum circus, you know, when Timbo slice when he first pummeled that guy in the backyard. You know, and it went viral the one where you guys. I right. Yeah. On the planet was doing bare knuckle on a mainstream level, right? And then they started doing it. And I was on board with him. And I listen we could turn this thing into a movement. And I started a bit, you know, and for years, I dominated, you know, saying the rank so now, you know, month apprise everyone wants to do bare knuckles. But we are. You know, what I'm saying to individuals that got the ball rolling? You know in the first others, you know, they're coming on board. And I, and I welcome, you know, everybody wants to know further enhance the culture, but they have to understand that we have the recipe like, grandma, cook and care. Nobody on the planet. What like how we doing Dada? When this when these events because this won't be the only one, obviously, but when they happen, and you're watching them, do you want people to feel more like they're in those backyards in Miami or the dachshund Miami, or wherever was that you guys knuckled up or do you want them to feel like they're watching a sport like to Woodside do you lean more? 'cause obviously you want a little bit of both book, which one do you think is the better ingredient. Well, I'm gonna tell you like this, right? We are a new finally with old world tradition. I don't know if that makes it, but we are anew fighting with old world tradition. So we're not straying away from you know, the culture, you know, but we are definitely evolved into a mainstream. You know, what I'm saying business? So when you know in this thing because when individuals look at you know, my haircut right there, upside down triangle, right? So when they actually out what about the taste? I would tell you this triangle cage, you know, like the pyramid is one of the eight one of the world. How did they build these marvelous structures with no, you know, two or no technology know, as we have now when you look at, you know, bernudo time when you look at on the. Back of our money. Didn't have you know, the the triangle, you know, not a square, you know, not Donald octagon. It was only right that the triangle. You know what I'm saying? That's the ultimate, you know, what I'm saying fighting, you know, tried on because all of the tension in the ring with these fighters with in the city, that's the best place for them to be. We are here to promote concentration because you have three point. You don't wanna gain? You don't want your opponent, you know, to gain levers by forcing you into those point the triangle is the fourth man, not to fighters got the referee triangles saying before men, so you have to be mindful. You know of that again, we're gonna revolutionize with a raise the bar, you know, and we're not hit a replace boxes when I hit replace intimate. But the world give up the chance we're gonna definitely make them thing. Dada. Five thousand is our guest here on the radio show talking about the brawl four it all which takes place on April fifth two thousand nineteen bare knuckle brawling live from Cheyenne ice and events enter ten pm eastern, seven PM Pacific. This is a pay per view of it. And for more information, go to be y be extreme dot com. Goes would you have for Dada five thousand Donna, let's go back a little bit. We'll go all the way back to the backyard when somebody would come up to you and say, I want to do this because I have a little bit of a background in boxing, or I have a little background in martial arts. Which of those guys did better. Do you think in bare knuckle is the boxers is mixed martial artists who kinda has like the better reign of going in there and doing bare knuckle. Great great, great answer. Because a lot of the individuals that were doing boxing or pro emanate, you know, it was a mental thing they get their mindset, you know, back dressing room warming up these street knives. They don't need no bail ho soon as go. They're gonna give you everything to have. They don't have to their mind, you know, for for for the fight. That's the difference between a street new Abroal versus someone who has spent that they have to, you know, go through you know, to the fight, you know. The boxer. You know, the boxer had his way with seen. You know, his technique. Would you know what I'm saying helped him through? But you know, when you're on pack. It doesn't let you it doesn't give you the time that you lied to create rhythm. And always in you know, in the knockout and not always, you know, the boxers win, you know, I've seen that cold. You know, we've done we've done more than twenty two in the backyard more than a hundred and thirty five up there not seeing people get knocked up each every way possible. And I'll tell people to say, listen, we were the first one, you know, to ESPN come out to the bare knuckle team. You know imprint Rolling Stone, National Geographic money time. Mommy hero maximum, not even implement Netflix. The biggest, you know movie of that year. Still to this day. You know dog fight. You know, we put ourselves in position to say, hey, listen, the world won't. You know, we're the ones that prophetic to present it and the government of who's already out there. They're gonna get ran down because we all original copy, the format copy of style. But you can't copy were sex. We earned the people's with say, you know, and I think that we're gonna we're gonna gig night, a fire and Syon and the best part of going any of the guys is when people say, hey, when is the next one, I can't wait. Dada. I was just one more thing. And it's it's kind of more along the lines of just how inspirational sometimes you are before fights the stuff that you tell the fighters is there a particular message that you've ever thrown about that you've seen be more successful like that one spark that lights afire under everyone while all of them all of them. And we're gonna give the world, you know, what I'm saying that experience. Right. You see some of these guys, you know, like with chocolate, and and Mike, you know, doing their, you know, rematch chocolate or not Mike out. And it was happy every fight. I give the guy a feature and you see smoke coming from them. They're reading, you know, they could go out there, you know, on seventy five and stop traffic. So we have the cameras we have on production. We're gonna sold the world. Why I am the bit. What be what the extreme will be the biggest finding fair knuckle fighting series in. In america. We have all the right components. We pack. We have personality where Picula we are talented. We are experience, and we're keeping out of a format. So the world can identify with, you know, some of the individuals, you know, my partner. Mike math with you know, Jose cars, we have mum trying that we have you know, Ramos who's out in about in only. Now, we have our glass and hang my brothers. We have been common in though, we have a lot of seasons people that that making this thing, you know, go, and this is just the first of many, why only you know, they were the first to authorize arcades they opened up their doors sub. But that was amazing. But then others have started, you know, to come around and say, hey, listen, you got to come here. And it's only gonna get bigger and better we got our houses behind like Netflix and a couple of others, and it's no stopping it's putting me we're gonna go to the. That man, listen, we talk like astronomical. You know, definitely. Dot I love the passion man, especially talking about the different mentality about a streetwise warrior fighter who comes from the street. So I gotta ask you real quick about another wise warrior whose finding success, obviously, obviously in a different cage. But a four him months Vidal. I was curious as is this three pizza and a soda that data five thousand approved. Did you catch that a couple of weeks ago in London? You know what I did? And I actually reached out to him. We all came from that backyard, circuit, you know, and marks dog, you know, he thought, you know, a couple of times the backyard with with Kimball them, and he'd come to my shows. You know, what I'm saying like dozens of time. So, you know, him, you know, Bruce Lee ROY and a couple of others that fought back down. I really say, you know, in close with those guys, and yeah that is certified because you you're not gonna say something, you know. And then you're walking talking like, no my face, and we all seem when he got his striking distance. You know what I'm saying? He took off, you know, and heart is something that you know, you can't you can't coach we give it away. You can't buy the can't lend, you know, if it's been you, then you and these guys and tell them all the time if you got the heart to fight under the circumstances that these guys have fought with the backyard, you can fight anywhere. You know, and we've proven that and come April, I want everybody under on my boy, the check with the local cable providers, you know, down to fight TV out. You know, because this is gonna be an epic event. We have twelve by we have ten bare knuckle fight we have to intimate fight, you know, and all of these guys they're coming in all of these guys and girls, they're coming inside as champion. They have a built on call the Bill because they're on the biggest stage most of them that they've never been on in their life. You know, and it's a pay per view worldwide. Not only that will fill me the fight scenes dogfight. We got racking to Billy Corbin coming out. So all of the participants they're going to be immortalized. They're gonna be around for a long time. So they are gonna fight their fight the fight that they need to bring you know, because this is the one that the world is going to be good job dot. I'm really pumped up for brawl four. On April fifth two thousand nineteen folks. Go to be why be extreme dot com. For more information. Follow Dada on Twitter at the real Dada. Five thousand and on Instagram, the real dot of thousand dollar, thanks for the time. We really appreciate it. And we'll hope to talk to you consume. Hey, thank you guys. Let me shut out to our matchmaker. They heard Michael too. So they've done. Awesome job. Thank you guys for having me and as on brawl brawl ones. Cayenne, why only I thank you, ma'am. Thanks for the time. I folks there you have it. Dada. Five thousand man, he brought some energy, right? Yeah. He's really really good at this job here of promoting these fights. He's already put in his time. He's already told out his fair share of three piece combos with sodas. They're in the thrill five and now it's time to make some money. So we wish him the best of luck. All right. Thanks to Josh for actually lining that one up shot at the him. And we are gonna take this quick top of the hour break, it's sixty seconds long. So we'll see you. About seventy second radio on by nation. Tommy three. I get paid to say things in this cool voice. And they get paid to be lame. Here are gorgeous Georgia goes. All right. We're back. Now, we're going to go from one guest to another. He's no stranger to the show. He was recently on we love talking to him when he had the night where he where the the Rufus sport. Jim went one and one with Ben aspirin getting away in his see debut, and unfortunately, Tyron Woodley losing his belt that same night. And we talked about a fight that he had coming up with Anthony Pettus. We just weren't able to catch up with them because we didn't touch on enough that night. And now he's back. It's Duke Rufus, the founder of Rufus sport, former kickboxing champion and now coaching those stars like aspirin Pettus Woodley. And of course, a few others that had some sexes success excuse me this weekend. John mcdevitt, Emmanuel Sanchez. I'm sure some of them had sex as well. Speak out. There turned me hotline is the group is what's up? Are you doing? I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on the show, man. Welcome back to m e junkie radio. It's always a blast to have you on. I'm glad you got your voice back. First of all because you are falling apart there between round one and two. I didn't know what I didn't know somebody walk who. Mcdaniel chopped you in the throat or what have you were sick? Or what was going on? Year instead of real bad coal the whole last year. So I just kinda stroke on that. I should say the last month. But how about that you were able to rally and keep your fighter in the game? Remind them of the game plan to kinda you've seen a lot of these. But this one's gotta be up there, man. A guy like Anthony pet is coming off a tough loss to Tony Ferguson, and instead of going backwards and taking on you know, a ranked forty number fighter at lightweight or something else. He goes up and takes on a top five welterweight in the world. And then he knocks him out with one of his best Cao's ever as well. They're all creditor. Anthony, he just the ways wired he likes to have motivation, and you know, is an honor getting face wonderboy. You know, you just put on a great performance. You know, I know the commentators were saying one thing, you know, is getting touched up, but gain weight and Sean Shelby came up to me. Right after the fight just ecstatic while what a game plan that they love the wo- kicks. They kind of through wonder bail wonderboy off his game. So I mean, sometimes what you see on the broadcast isn't what the guy see rate mix to the fight. If that makes sense, you know, because the people who are in the know kind of those throwing them off and Anthony had mesmerized with the legs. And that's what caused them to use that cool moving catch wonderboy. Have you guys named that cool move yet is it just maybe the Showtime punts? I know I know had some superman in it. I know it had a hook in it. But I don't know if there's such thing as a superman hook, so whatever you guys named it son. Era showtime. Aren't you know, it's I like it that was that was a knockout man that was something amazing. You know, there's a lot of fight weapon in today. And we always had some setbacks personal as and physically. But here's a fact that people don't remember I was there when it happened. Anderson Silva's thirty two years old when he made his run verse Chris leaving and the UFC when he started it and Anthony turn thirty to turn Willie won a kite on his thirty board wonderboy comps, and is thirty six niece still Elza fighter. So I still think there's a lot of fight left. An aunt. To get any point in time. And I know you always keep it real with us. But at any point in time when the when he when he tossed out that he wanted to fight a Stephen Thompson any point in time where you against it. Or just think that it was the wrong move. Never. I'm back when I heard it. Static. And not because I think he's a fighter did something stylistically match up very well with and the fact that you can face the great biter and a well like fighter, you know. Definitely got will. We're what can pour out of this? I in fact, I said we need a sexy win hit back on top. And I'd say that was sexy. And you know, I just felt good about what Stephen does. Well in what he isn't going to do. He wasn't gonna hold Anthony against the cage. He wasn't gonna just lay in top of him. He was he's kind of fight them. And that's the anthonys and his best round. What I have to say. I think Stevens wonderful fighter because four or five moves really good where I knew this was going to be one Anthony was going to be able to bring in more tools to fight. If that make sense, he's have the. X-factor asleep? Always I mean, even the spinning hook kick that ain't we'll kick it Anthony through it wonderboy almost Cottam. And that's why he touched gloves 'cause I got your kid. I see how this is, you know. And you know, it's just the type of where looking for it all worked out again. Nothing respect for wonderboy. I'm in sport mates. More people. I can his dad there respectable before respectful after and he's still put on a hell of a fight. You know, even though it's respectable guy. You know, guys, the, you know, John mcafee's opponent. I gotta say that she was mean Mergen John at the way, it was mean mugging John when we're going to the venue is mean, mugging them everywhere. But then it was time to fight. You just kinda laid back. You know, anyone knows McAfee? He's he does. Well when guys fight him. He did win the fight. But you know, there's so much posturing and all this on toxic energy to show. Up and fight. That's my feet. Due group is our guest here on MA junkie radio. Dan, Tom, fat analysts effort do grievous. Hey, do obviously first foremost, congratulations on on a great performance as per usual. From your team. I'm glad you brought up other members of your team as well. Like John mcdevitt, because I want to ask you something coach from an outsider perspective me being an outsider, and as well as maybe coming from the traditional world taekwondo and karate before trying to make my own jumping EMMY fighters that that kind of have that style or stick out to me and not a lot of coaches can really cater to that style. And again, I I've never had the honour privilege to train under someone like yourself from the outside in it looks like you can struck these fighters very, well, obviously Pettus has been a longtime sample size for you coach. But even when fighters will start to make overcoming over whether it's Paul Felder or John Desi later additions to your team. I kind of outsider perspective felt like that would be a good fit going to coach like you. So if by that nature you can construct. These guys really well and melt that really well, but by nature, I guess you can deconstruct that really well and his that kind of what we've seen with your history history with wonderboy and kind of his camp there. Well, it comes down to my own family upbringing. My dad was a coach my brothers ten time world champion and the old school kickboxing. Get wonder boys, really good. I grew up part of my career started mandates for karate my whole life. So for me when we fight someone from that style. It's very easy. I know what they're gonna do since they easy. I'm familiar with it. I'll take that back in, you know, we're out of mixed martial arts Rikers 'cause like wonderboy in, you know, even sage norc they'll throw out a guy. So most guys don't side cake cook cake etcetera, and you know, the the blitzing style were striking as opposed to the stand Dakin of boxing kickboxing Moi tonight. I'm very natural for me to deal with it. But not so much for keep I'm blessed? You know, I grew up in martial arts with my family, spoke ready. I did old school American kickboxing trained in Thailand. Mike, I trained arch gate books and all and trained in Japan. Turkish in karate as well, which is the root of with started K one. So and as well short stints the pro boxer during the Cuban box coach from very, well, I and our fighting blessed, and that helps me train all these different guys. Yeah. Your experiences. Second non which has gotta imagine. Why fighters love and respect you so much Duke and that kind of speaks for itself. And that's another reason why even me just selfishly when we have on here. I love asking you questions. I believe last time. We got a great opinion on you as far as open scoring. And I like kind of bouncing these topics on very knowledgeable coaches, not just within our sport. But all the other knowledge that you bring the table. So if I may wanna bounce another one off of you, which kind of in a weird way, I in a sense related to Anthony's performance, you mentioned the low kicks. We were talking about that here. And we've seen that quietly. You know, have affect on on karate guys, you know, with show gun and Machida for them. And may folk, obviously, you seem interruptions and have have had your own problem solving over the years, but you adapted the low kick really well when like you said that they'll PK karate days. You know, our attitude toward those kind of things weren't exactly, you know, high, obviously you've adapted you've trained world champions. But not so much about the lake. I have any questions about Duke. I wanted to ask you about. The oblique kick a lot of people call it that front kick to the knee. I know I'm sure watching state on Stephen Thompson. You saw him get hit hit by that. By Darren till the Jackson camp is big on it. I was just curious. It's a really kind of polarizing technique if you will amongst our community. I'm wondering what what someone. You're your steam is opinion is on that coach. I like it a lot because from the regional Moi tie. It's more Baronne that'll feel more time. And it's a great. You know, you side kick the way and you push off the leg. I I get so deep with we're Meeks bettering my head. I like kicking the wake someone braces push right up the way out myself. But I try to have my point triangle, pointing me there's I just think one to the that kick sets up what the defense is really easy. The problem is and protect knee people complaining about it. It's the big problem. Spores people defense is you know. Konin cool train defense on in cool. The hit things. I just add that I, you know, I agree. I think that you know, maybe defenses kind of overlooked. I could see why people have a problem with the kick. You know, maybe it's not their favorite. But I don't think it should be taken out of the rules. I think you know, it's more of a defense issue. So that that's cool to hear you weigh in on that. Thanks coach. All right goes, what do you? So not alone. Not very many people have been able to land. So flush on Stephen Thompson the way Anthony did. And as soon as that happened. I noticed there were a couple of other sequences in the fight where it seemed like Anthony was looking for a particular spot to throw a punch like that. And maybe he had just missed that opportunity by like a half a second. But then when it happened it just seemed like his body took over and just reacted. So to me that says that maybe that's something that you guys trained a lot that closing sequence. Is that a punch that are something that you guys saw in footage and like just waiting for that on their own to hit them like that. It was a spur of the moment strike. We didn't train that the whole camp. Aegis that's kinda out hours. Tell people I'm Phil Jackson. His Michael Jordan. I got some plays. I got some sequences that are going to keep us in the game. But when you get that open court kid to you be show time on when he feels like he's wide open for highlight reel go for. And that's kind of when he feels good and he can go or something because he knows one is got great ground game. If he goes to the manor to just goes back that structured style, and they he's is like jam and some really good musicians. Takes him to really cool song. It just knows other. Improvising. The hia battle, and and that's was our major goal when this camp, you know, Anthony, we'd better ups and downs and rate now. Passionately personally were at the best stage of our lives together as friends teammates coach writer and one of our goals. This year is at that center. G there from the engine, can I gotta tell you. We were feeling this year. It happened. One thing tell with that right hand on watch carefully disrespect to the commentators sometimes people poke on cause bleeding while Thomson. Intimately watched every time. There's a term thing always argue back, especially when you played a bigger fighter like Thomson when they hit. You are hit back. You watch mean he was constantly answering wonderboy get touched. He touched back. And then we're starting to find the rain this right hand it cooked seeing them a couple times and they punched him in the sternum a couple times too. And that's why a good throw that change up on the right hand if that makes sense. How after the fight? Do you go back and watch the footage on your own? And then do you also get with Anthony and watch it together. Are there a lot of things that you see watching it the second time around that just you know, it's tough to catch live. In fact, I was more stressed out in the fight of oxen to fight like, yeah, he's gonna get him. That's what we trained to do. Anthony news Il sauce on his apron, but he was gonna win shift of the year award. Plowed. You know, he's gonna fight like a life teen that was his whole goal crabs. He wanted to come forward. You know, he starts tasting his blood like couple of and VJ pen must had wild night together. So, you know. The advice waking blood to get your Mo-jo. I don't know. But you know, when he gets in that mode. That's the key. And that's what we worked on this. You're getting the feeling back. You know, these guys are all awesome athletes fighters station. He's never been lazy never not committed. Just getting that that feeling back. You know, when you feel like the guy again, and when he starts feeling awesome. And I miss that feeling 'cause a great town of my life on in your career when you get that feeling and yet that payment back in, and that's just you go through stages of your career struggle with that. And you know, he's making second run in the last few years before the two thousand seventeen whereas struggled, but you know, we've stayed diligent to the goal and his back. Let me ask you a couple of rapid fire questions just to close out the interview if he's pipping or sorry, he's Jordan who's Pippen. They're all Jordan deal. Most of rain gal. Even Ben asked her own way, stuffy creates on the fly. As amazing. I wasn't worried at all in the Rabbie to be quite honest worked. We were Mike Nolan. That's banned banners soldier at surviving the fire that that's what he's gonna do to everybody. But you know. You know, he's kinda beat everyone because he finds a way to win. That's why special and knows how to find ways to win. I'll give you pass on that one. But you. Coach. But I guess that was the smart answer. All right. Speaking of Jordan's a once in a lifetime athlete. Do you realize that Liverpool? This might be the once in the lifetime that they win in English Premier League title. Have you been keeping up with them there? I think either second or first depending on what they Jack have you been keeping up with those reds. Let your squad. Bowed down my support, you know, I don't have time to other professional sports right now. I'm not even watching kickboxing boxing at the moment. You know, I'm just working hard coaching and running our team trying to keep my wife, my girlfriend and try and be out of the year. All the time. Do my daughter, you know, and keep up with my family as what my other siblings and father. So yes, I mean big times, I know they're doing good. But at the time these days are well tune in because they're they really are doing well. And did you just miss speak or you say wife and girlfriend right now because I said I'm trying to keep my wife, my girlfriend meaning. Oh. Relate? What do you like fauns number two up there in Milwaukee? Okay. Yeah. Here toys the server, I y you know. All right. Here's my next question here. Yeah. We we don't wanna get anyone in trouble there without one. Okay. You know in kickboxing you fought Pat Smith who was in one of the early you have season. I wanna take you back to nineteen Ninety-three that wasn't when Smith that was Smith. You've see you actually kick box myth in nineteen ninety seven. But any at any point when you knew who he was and you saw them do that. Did you ever think? Hey, I'd like to try that. When you when those first early sees where happening. I got offer fight Ken shamrock can hurt av called me up and that ninety five I was under contract with K one. So we were not allowed to go do that. You know, here's a tell you. I wish I would have done it. Got my ass kicked at that stage. My martial arts mindset, I was so focused. I'm being a striker in moist kickboxing didn't have an open palette. And so that helped me get warm today. But I tell you if I were oughta mail, you got my ass kicked. But the person I am when I get my ass kicked. That'd probably be attempt agree black belt now in because when I said, something I make it mine if I was to I realize isn't something that master, so. I don't say I wish I would've I would've failed. But because I l succeed anything I've been beaten by or my fighters team. I go about that. Got it. Okay. And then lastly, what is it about MMA or combat sports that gravitates you so much? I ask you because you're in Milwaukee, which is near Green Bay. So you probably. Saul when the Packers you've heard about Lombardi. And then you've seen the farve era of the Rogers air all that stuff. Baseball home runs, you just breath, Jordan. So I know you keep up with other sports. But what is it about a KO or submission or just a great performance that interests you so much but yet a dunk slam dunk a touchdown. A homerun doesn't do it for you. Thing you're going do the point that there's only two thanks for doing this. This is the infamous give being man moment. And then you fight people is the biggest rush you ever go through the craziest thing I was Saturday night p like plenty times before the fight. And it was just coaching. You know, it's like you're going into the Coliseum. There's nothing more real than getting older capped out or out if you win Russian I love football. I played middle linebacker in high school puts the stats up of these football player. You know, look at the game A point basketball, but exhilaration of a knockout, it's the best feeling around. It's just. People wanting the UFC Roman Coliseum meets your favorite rock concert. And. Again, you know, the man on the planet and the best rocks or one time it feels so good. That's a great answer. All right. Well, hey, we really appreciate the time. Congratulations on the awesome weekend that you guys had. I know Sanchez got that win on Friday night. Mcdaddy got the wind before Pettus went out there from what I'm hearing. You had some other winds on the squad as well. So that's awesome. We got debut Ella closer. So. I mean, Windsor great everywhere. But they do it on the big stage main, you know. You know, it's up and down. So we can win the big face. I was really proud of. My hope seem vibrate. Guys. Early. Trying to remind them like short career short or pared state advocated, but most of all have fun. You're having fun. It makes it easy to work hard. And that a lot of fun, which is making this work extra hard, and everyone got the results they work for and it's been fun. Spun watching your team and in the camaraderie amongst your team. So congrats on that again. And thanks very much for joining us here on MA junkie radio hope to see when Vega soon we love to have you come by the studio again for sure Joe, I six ten tent. All right. All right. We'll look we'll dig that up and see what you're talking about. Thanks there. We'll see. Starts who's fighting July? Askar Lawler Woodley. Somebody is the winner of our daily debate right pet is and who was kinda McGregor. Ray you came up just on those polls. I may have been through my Twitter. I wrote McGregor here. Mcgregor smart in that these pass. It's doesn't seem like the last guests six weekends. He's very politely congratulating somebody. And then letting them know how fun of fight between him and fill in the blank would be. Then you get your typical Nate Diaz response of, you know, something along the lines of why you run in because he also sees that somebody's the hot item, whether it's hubby Pettus Ferguson now maybe Pettus Aldo remember he was telling I think he told civil congrats. How about you and me and the other is then thinking congratulated I think it was Sironi. I love the deal with you. Now. It's patta. So. How about that? Could be. Yeah. I mean that name is definitely been Anthony Pettus his mouth from what I'm scrolling through time. So he went McGregor sleeves. Thanks, get see it. And I don't think anybody would hate it. Love the spice more than deserves that that that that put in time. Yes, put in all that came about that quick though. It's out of sport goes on the case. So let's use the elimination process doing right now, I want to make sure that we're sticking to our game plan arguing plan the roof team. Where are we right now? Can we take a course taught for Ben? Are you asking me? The bomb. We need to know we kind of have to we have another guest coming on like five. That's why she's so gab Yalies. She keeps us on track. So let's we'll do that. We'll do that. Well, shut up. We'll take a break. And we'll come back. We'll talk to aunt wanna to. And then the close out. I think we'll circle back and have a little bit of fun. Why on why maybe Anthony Pettus may have won this leap stakes? It's junkie radio on fight nation. Shanley three. Hall of famers legends. The very best coverage of the fake games right here on Sirius XM's site nation channel ninety three. Hey idiot. You can you. Please tap that rather large fellow on the shoulder and Telam it's time for more m a junkie radio with gorgeous, George and goes, thank you tonight at ten eastern, the Brooklyn nets dual the Portland trailblazers on MBA radio to oh, seven XM eighty six or streaming on your phone or at home on Sirius XM connected devices and speakers. All right. Our next guest the Spaniard twenty two and one overall four. No in Bela Tor did a lot of damage on the regional seen king of the cage. Blasted a lot of fools there. Come on man, twenty two and one that's almost an unreal type of record. That's how bad ass. This bantamweight is the call him the Spaniard joins us now on the hotline. What's up one are two letter? How you doing brother? What's how you doing? Doing great, man. Welcome to 'em may junkie radio. You're on with George goes. And Dan, Tom saw your last fight in LA. Really cool to watch. You there performed connect with the crowd. You're you're homeys dillashaw Swanson, you know, they were going nuts. I really liked the work you've put in over there bell tower, and I feel like now two thousand nineteen could be that championship run. Absolutely. Yeah. That's the plan. You know, we had we had a great turnout fought the number one contender for making my drop down my debut for one thirty five ambulatory. And it was like no better way to take on Ricky Bendit Hodge who had a had a good momentum going into this fight. You know, the last time I saw you fight because I also cut your fight over into sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Temecula and that was the one where you almost went back because of something that happened with your daughter. I apologize for not remembering the details. But yeah, you remote. I'm talking. Right. Right. I think she was in school. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, but, but you, you know, they were able to to let you know that they had everything under control. You did some work, Dan, you did some work now. And so now what I wanted to ask you one is Scott Coker, rich out anybody told you. Hey, man this. That's it. You're you've made your run. And now we got a feature you against the champ or in the number one contender spot because again, you have a very attractive record. And you go out there you the fans get excited about your fight. You put on a show feel like you've held up your end of the bargain. He absolutely that was the deal going into this fight or to this contract. You know, they, you know, of course, you come out of the regional scene. You have a good record and people still have questions, you know. And I feel like I did the road work. I put the time in where you didn't have to bring me up. You know, I'm not like some of these guys that are I started out where you have to bring me up and you had to do this. I want this jump in right away. But there were still questions that need to be an. Entered. So I said all right. Well, gimme gimme whoever you want in. And and I'll take them out one by one. And that being said, you know, they had thrown some guys on the last on my last fight of the contract. And I said, you know, what I wanna I wanna make the drop down to one thirty five. And I wanna fight the number one contender whoever you think it is make sure he's on the other end of that contract. And they told me straight out. They said, okay, we're gonna win their hearts in there with you. And the fight you win that fight will renegotiate your contract. And you know, and we'll give you the title fight. So now, I'm sitting there they're finishing up the contract now, but it would definitely guaranteed that I'll be fighting Caldwell mitts. Oh like it. Okay. So now, we're talking there. We're we're we're that that that's a big big name the the world champion and former by the way shout out to the wrestling March madness that also took place a kind of watch that a little bit shot out. The pens are now I think the fifth consecutive national title for them. But the reason I say that is because Darren call what was also a D one national champion. And now the Bill toward bound. That's. Yeah. You know, I was I wrestled at Purdue. So you know, we we were around the same time. So watching them take out Metcalf, you know, each fan of, but you know, now now we got some businesses settle. And I was always wondering how I paired up with them on on a combat scene. And now, I get that chance to test myself against the Bella towards best thirty five or and I talked about the last two fights at one had to make ya. And then the forum or sorry the form in LA. I also was first flight in two thousand thirteen because I remember the card. It was at bad beat. It was before you, and I used to announce for them goes. But I just went there as a spectator actually there and look at some of the names that were on that card. No Atla hot. Jesse Suarez Ozzy Alvarez. Victor Henry all names that have continued and progressed, you know, their career in other organizations Rudy Morales, Toby Greer. So I was at his I find they've been at his last two as well. And this will this watch the Spaniard that we're talking to twenty two in one overall goes I'm sorry. Go ahead. Take it over from here. Because you're you're waiting on that contract technically are you still free agent yet, technically free agent. You know, I'm I into this ninety day Klaus where you know. I can't I can't go she ate with any other promotion yet, you know, until basically April twenty six, you know, once able twenty six comes around, and you know, it it's going to be done. But you know, if the if the contractor's drawn up, then you know, I I leave it into my manager. And he he, you know, I have faith with Tiki Ghosn who's my manager. And that's why signed with them, you know, he's just a fifteen minute drive away. So, you know, he he's been doing awesome. You know? He's there Aren out the small little details on the contract. But in full-fledged that I think it's gonna I know it's going to be done. But you know, yet, if the April twenty six does roll around I still haven't had that a contract with Darin name on the other side, then you. Posssibility? You know, there are some fighter's that will say all about the money. It doesn't matter who they're lining up for you. Or what their plans are if the if the right number is on the contract, they'll sign it in your case. Let's say that didn't come through the dairy invite. But the numbers were right. Would you be okay with it? Or you just tell bent set on that match up needs to happen. Well, you know, I think what the I think honestly what they're waiting for. And I and I could see why they're waiting is. Because the rematch with Horiguchi because Darrien had lost going out to risen. And so he loses. I think that's gonna definitely finalize my spot to fight for the title, but you know, him winning and then giving them the option of coming in fighting and giving them a date, and if he turns it down then I step in. But I believe that's the last straw. That's being waiting to be drawn. And so when it does, you know, and I think it's it's like what April tenth or something the next risen card, and I know it's coming up. So it is. Yeah. But yeah, with with that being that being done, you know, and and so to answer your question, if it's not in you know, I I would love to see one of the other guys. You know, you got Edward Don has Sean bunch. Now is gonna be fighting dominating Masada in James Gallagher. You know, we're not we're not deep at one thirty five. But there is some big names out there to to take care of you know, like you said the numbers, right? And they say, hey, this guy, and you're still and still make yourself number one contender. I have full belief in my ability to beat anyone on the roster. All right. We got fight analyst, Dan, Tom here with us, Dan, what do you ever want? Actually. Hey one. I just want to say, you know, your team and the guys you work with you have a great cast Casta fighters there and from a fan friendly standpoint a lot of you guys are real real action fighters, I can only imagine what your training sessions are like. I just wanted to ask you about a fighter from your stable that doesn't really get you know, maybe as much attention. I'm a fan of he he's been around for a minute, which is sought Awad that guy always brings it. I know yet a kind of a tough a tough out against former lightweight champ Benson Henderson last time. But it looks social media. You guys are training together. How is that relationship? How is Saad looking? And and how motivating is it to have a guy like that, you know to get your goes with. I know I know he's a bit bigger. But. Yeah. You know, looking at my on I'm tall enough and big enough to to to fight anyone from one five down having them on the team right now. It's fight week for him. So you know, we last week Georgy care bottom pride cards out there in Oklahoma. But now transitioning all the focus back on so Siad Awad, you know, we're excited. He's he's great to have in the work room. He's he's a partner that keeps pushing you know that keeps going forward. You know, obviously, sparring we don't hit each other hard as we can. But you know, you you get he gets position on you. And you know, you definitely feel, you know, the elbows in these come in and just his canasta the of, you know, being the the basically the fasten he is. And you know, he has a huge fight coming up with Brandon grits, and we're all excited for this matchup because both of them bring it, and you know, he's just a stunt, man. He's a workhorse in. You're you're in for an action packed fight every time he's on. He's on the card. That's awesome to hear man. And you know, again, prying social media here looks like also peco's back in in the room and another not uncommon fighters. You guys always kind of have each other's back to help each other for camps like you were just talking about. So let me ask you this. Obviously, your guys skills are unquestioned. You guys are all great fighters. Great to see networking, but how about the family aspect of that, you know, kinda, you know, back to that maybe getting each other's backs, and you already kind of touched on it. But is happened really kind of jell together with the groupie got down there with training lab. Yep. -solutely? No. We, you know after last took some time with family, and then right when he came back from his vacation with his family and some stuff that he had to do, you know? We're with them, you know, picking them up from his loss, you know, especially with the things going on with TJ right now. You know, we we don't know the outcome or no, no anything, you know, anything going on. But you know, we're here for him in. He knows that. And we all love him. And you know, we're we're going to be there for him to pick them back up. You know, whatever the outcome is. And you know, and it's like that just like George his last loss. He's gonna be here helping out Siad before he has some time to mourn for his loss. And you know, but there's no better way after you lose to get back in there and help in help your brother out to try to see him get the victory. You know? So definitely a family atmosphere, and you know, it it it motivate you to go out and just perform, you know, not not worry about the winner loss. Just you know as long as we're going out there performing that's all we can do for one another one. I wanted to ask you whose idea was it the fight out the contract the bell tower. Offer you anything before the contract expired or was it your idea to fight? It out. And then maybe use that as leverage because it would obviously raise your stock. Yeah. You know, it was. So I thought in impact villa Homa on I wanna say when was it? I think December it might actually here. I thought in fact Ville on on eleven thirty. Yes. So November thirtieth, and you know, I was like, hey, man. I know I have a renegotiation coming up, but I would love to be on the LA card. You know, I loved yourself some tickets to my home crowd. And you know, what better way for it to be on my last fight on my contracts, and then it was guaranteed that you know, we definitely be exclusive contract negotiations with him. And so it was it was more of a mutual agreement on that end. So luckily for me, I won. And you know, there's no better way to finish out your contract with a with the win in more leverage definitely going into our country. Doc negotiation. So it was like a gentlemen's agreement. So you you never explored PF L you have see or anything else. Then for even one championship is that all been belt or have you been have you been able to do that? So for my career in what I've mapped out with Joe. Daddy, Stevenson, 'cause he's my head coach, you know, he's willing to start me out. We wanted to do something that you know, has never been done in a career path. You know, and you know, that's why I stayed with king of the cage so long I wanted to find out my contract and make sure I was ready for the big big or or the the more prestigious organizations like Bella torn UFC, and now with Allah tour, I wanna be able to in my career knowing that I left it all on left it all out there. So I wanna win the world title for Bella, tore, you know, hopefully, multiple world titles and go from there and make sure I left nothing behind and say what happens if I would've just Dave ability for instead of San with you have seeing what I would have been a world champion because there's questions that you know, if I leave now and people say, well, I wonder how he would have done with Darien. Are I wonder how he would have done with? You know, the pit bull brothers. Why not answer those questions, right? Now in and not look back in second guests and the opportunity came, and, you know, for some reason, Bella tour got bought out, you know, and and I went to the UFC, and I and I got to go on that platform and win a world title on that stage as well. You know, what what better career leave behind something like Eddie Alvarez? You know, he's he's done that in. I guarantee has no regrets in any organization. He's fought for. One last thing. If Tiki gets you a even better contracting thought, how do you match rampage? He bought them Range Rover. What are you gonna buy pool table or just take him out to a steak dinner? How do you match that shit? Yeah. I've been trying to figure it out. That happened. You know, I definitely been picking his brain on some ideas. You know, maybe maybe take him out in get them a and take him hunting in and get him a bear or something. I don't know. Something that he could have you know, you know, we we love huntin we eat everything we kill. So, you know, maybe go take out down a big, elk or moose or something. You know who knows? We'll find out though, if he if he does, you know deliver. If it's our Winnie does deliver it's gonna be it's gonna be something that I have to do for sure. All right. Tiki going hunting with you. Or this is what you do. While he he goes he's down a couple of years. And he, you know, he he loved hunting as well. So okay. And we hunt we fish into I I love fishing. There's nothing more more relaxing to me than than fishing. But yeah, you know, whatever, whatever he wants to do we're gonna go get them one. Even if it's a swordfish or something, can we gotta we gotta make it happen. Tiki went to monitor. Oh lives in Huntington beach. He doesn't strike me. As a hunter hunter at those good, t- stripes. Exactly. Like, a sailor. Maybe you know. Get them a brand new shirt, but hunting rifle or anything like that. Just doesn't think Tiki Esq. Yeah. You know, believe it or not he he's a he gets his hands dirty. That's for sure. All right. Well, listen, good luck. With whatever happens wherever you wind up. Sounds like bell tower definitely is the front runner. And you definitely have a great champion there to shoot for bell towards always doing some great free agency signings. And if you dabble with forty five or fifty five man, there's great champions their pit bull and Chandler are it, you know, what? I mean, they are really great fighters. So it sounds like you could definitely have your hands full and shout out to yourself. Because again, I was for your first fight that was two thousand thirteen you've had tweet fight since you're averaging four fights a year, that's an incredible pace. And that's great for anybody. That becomes a fan of yours because they know like, this guy stays active, and I can you know, can be there. And a lot of your fights have also been California base. So hopefully, build up a good base out there. So Cal we live here in Vegas now or former so calories. So we always have a softball. Yes. Oh, yeah. Appreciate it. Yeah. You know that speaking on that I fight. I knocked out and fight the first like ten seconds. But like. Woke up right away. You know, it was like the first time I've ever even sparred or like Hedda real fight. It was just like boom, you know, like hollow. Pretty crazy. But yeah, definitely coming through some adversity that fight and saying, okay. This is for real, you know, and that's what that's got addicted. There you go. All right. Well, thanks for the time. We appreciate it was fun having you back, and hopefully we can do it again soon. Specially maybe after you have your announcement. And if I booking all set we can preview it appreciate it yet. Thank you to you guys. And I appreciate the time. You guys delivering me on on your radio. Thank you guys to your fans, and everyone I mean, all you guys producer broadcaster. Thank you. Thank you, sir. It was nice talking to have a nice evening, right. Have a good one guys. Have are you to all right, folks? Give him a follow on Twitter. He really really is a fun fighter to watch. And I'm I'm glad he's a so Keller JR M A is the Twitter handle, we're gonna take our last break. It seven may junkie radio on fight nation channel ninety three say close. We'll be right back stole ally of news to cover from that you've seen national show, including some stuff from the UC president, wait. 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You never know who will be in studio. All right. So, you know, it's obvious that by tomorrow, we're going to be discussing a little bit more of UFC Nashville, but Dan is going to be breaking down fights burying his face in the fight pass. And getting things ready for you know, all his analysts work because we got you see on ESPN two coming up so dances. We're gonna miss you. Why don't we use a few minutes? Yeah. Tell me about blades and Willis told me about Macy, Barbara tell me about whoever you want that was on this card that stood out to you that you wanna talk about. There's a lot of good stuff. Macy. Barbara wasn't one for sure I mean, you know, comeback tested. Aldridge was tough. She has Mark man came out and show. Why that's out our southbound match. It can be tough Barbara's which out orthodox make some adjustments and gets that finish, man. She that was super impressive. You know, especially those letter lead clash fighters females, and she's showing. No, I'm finisher. She she she she finishes fights do see for mega gotta win over Davidson Figueredo, John McDonough. In over his sous Pinedo Lewis Panya gotta win over Stephen Peterson. He was the only one this weight. But he did get a unanimous decision win thirty twenty seven across the board. We mentioned Barbara overall rich let me stop there and blades over Willis in the event. Look like you wanted to just going to say also Gutierrez got a win which made a factory X monta to L for the night that team is going on run, man. I mean from Anthony Smith John Jones, I don't know if they look good. I don't know if they lost the fight in twenty nineteen at the level, do Gutierrez, look very, very good. He was one step ahead of right McDonald's like either twelve or ten in going in. So he wasn't a slouch by any means he earned his spot today. Byu in the U of C. It just wasn't as night Katina's fought. Well, Jordan uh Spinoza took it to Eric shore. Celta he looked pretty he was aggressive, and I thought okay, this is gonna run out after a while when he kept up that pace, man. He was really a tough tough customer. John Dodson early. John energy. Yeah. That's coming out with that energy random Marco's over Angela hill. She got us a mission. And I mean random he just took it to Angela. Hill Angela hill didn't even get a moment to shine Randa was pretty pretty slick. She had a nice little hip toss. And then from there. She went to work look like he was going to almost take her back. And instead she started working. Dissecting Shirley with that arm bar until she finally got it. But huge huge win for random Marcos who doesn't have the sexiest record per se. But man, she's she's got the Carlos bars a win. She's got this win from nothing era. I believe. That she needs to be taken a little bit more seriously. Yeah, she's lost a lot of closest put decisions and some decisions that could have gone her way. Maybe something could've gone the other way too. But Rhonda Marcos interesting guys remember tough twenty. I didn't watch too close, you know, meat, but she's like and. And on a revenge story all the girl, she had issues with Angela hill. She's come back and beat beat them in the real in the apologize. It wasn't case. She lost the Casey shabby Juliana Lima between Lima hill. Esparza those are really really good name totally. So hopefully, she can consistency build up on that one. Yeah. Here's a few other winds, Jennifer Maya over Alexis Davis. It wasn't going my way early on a man she can hit hard and Davis her defense just needs to improve because her head stay still. She takes a lot of shots when she's able to get her hands on your ticket to the ground. She make you suffer. And that's what she did the Maya. But she, but but my was able to avoid that, you know, the that dominance on the ground in the third round. 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Part 2:Sid Fernando

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Part 2:Sid Fernando

"Steve how you doing. I'll tell ya neck. What's the saying you better? You better have led underwear on I. It it's yesterday was yesterday was rough. GotTa tell you a lot of ways. It seems like we're getting that way Each day and and and to an extent but This is certainly been. There's been a lot of different things going on of course but obviously the challenges presented by what the world is facing with. The pandemic is enough for anybody to deal with it time and sort of seems like we're seeing now. Those the virus cases affect people famous people non famous people All the same. It certainly knows. No it doesn't discriminate and And IT'S GETTING. It's getting very taxing. I've I've tried to to look at as many mental exercise type of things as I can to to get away from reading about it too much getting down about it too much and I mean that's why I'm very grateful for the places that are still running and really Admire the humans that are involved in in getting the horses prepared and and you know the gate crews and the starter and everybody. That's doing any kind of work still remaining at the race track Because I mean it's just something that gives us a feel of it. It's a reminder that not everything is bad at the at the given time even though there's a lot going on that we're probably not terribly happy about so I'm being tapped somewhat tangential but it is a nice thing and I'm a pretty positive guy to begin with so I try to some people that follow me on twitter may think otherwise but I think that's all out so otherwise guy but Trying to look on the bright side of things as much as possible now. Of course yesterday are distraction was going to be the founder Park Force out. And you know there's certain parts of adjusting to a specific and will rogers when it comes to ovals that people are not and circuits. That people may not be particularly in tune with and and one of the things that came up. And then we'll we'll we're GONNA talk about the Tampa Pick five carryover in a minute. But let's review yesterday. And obviously it starts with the and the five eighths oval and I you know I asked you about the figure making a funner when you did it for you. Know the handful of years and you do a lot of the you know what are known as the tracks the smaller tracks and the five eighths definitely entered into this. And there's a lot of hurly-burly anarchy argued that goes on with these horses and don't forget we're also talking about you know some some. These are nickel climbers. And guys that are you know. They're not that they're not competent. Jocks but you know. There's there's going to be some things out there that you know that are going to invite criticism and we all get that. What was your view of what went on. And how surprised that they. They took down the winter. You Know I. It's all things that you said obviously are accurate in terms of how Different items differ when it comes to the five ace oval and trying to get position in which riders are are looking to do it a little more aggressively than others and so on and so forth. You know that that foul a lot like the one on Saturday at oaklawn is mainly. It's it's it's sort of determined by the stewards to be severe because they're paying much more attention to the jockey and the flailing and machinations of the writer than they are the actual items that should go into making a determination. And you know I. It seems to me like the eventually of course it was placed. I too was going for a spot that didn't exist. And obviously if you're looking to you know at the same time that a horse in behind goes for a spot there is the horse in front does have the ability. That writer has the ability to try and narrow that spot. There's nothing wrong with that. There's that's not an infraction especially when that other horses had might just be getting to the to the lead horses flank and and if you look at it that way then I think it would be very hard to make a change in the situation that we saw yesterday but if you pay too much attention to the fact that I mean the writer on the to practically came out of the satellite check so hard and I think he embellishes a little bit too in order to to try and sell it. And that's what ended up winning over the stewards so I thought it was a call that you're not supposed to make. I felt like the best horse crossed the wire first and You know it. It lends itself to. I mean for all the things he's done since he's come back from Hong Kong Pat Cummings has gotten us to have a conversation about category one and and I tell him frequently that it's very easy to bang drum that we need to go to a category one type of stewarding and ultimately I think we do need to certainly adopt a a strategy that doesn't really concern itself with horses being cost a placing and really trying to focus more on whether they would've won and things like that but we have to overhaul stewarding from top to bottom in this country and the fact that now this is the third time and of course everything is under the microscope right now because there are so few tracks running but no you Friday afternoon at Gulfstream yet marquette exhorts trying to come up the inside on non Candy Machine and Candy Machines Jockey Tyler. Leone shut the door. And and that horse orifice had to steady sharply. Come around the outside. Looked like he probably probably would have won the race if he had gotten a clean run through but he also went for spot that didn't exist and those stewart ended up deciding. There was no change that on Saturday at oaklawn. We had this. What I thought was was a pretty terrible disqualification of the the winner of the eighth race Who won clear and basically got disqualified because the writer on the eventual fifth place. Finisher wasn't able to get fourth and then yesterday you have another one where I it's a you know. It's a questionable decision at best Probably a poor decision. In my opinion because that's second-place eventual winner via disqualification vacation was going for a spot that didn't exist. So what this all underscores is that. We have no standard and we. We have nothing I it. It shouldn't be that difficult. And you know even with the help of some broadcasters when you think about major sports like the NFL and the NBA and Major League Baseball when we start looking at replay. Even if you mute the sound you-know-what decision is going to be made right. It's and yes it's a tad more black and white than racing is but we need to get more black and white on that. I mean it needs to be understood what is acceptable. What's not what should be disqualification. I shouldn't find myself telling people in a not be or in in the Jockey Club. Sam Houston while those stewards generally don't disqualify for that because it shouldn't boil down to that we should know what to disqualification across the country because there has to be just a little bit more uniformity and I hope that Obviously once we we get past all that's going on right now and we can get ourselves to a position where racing can can start to move forward again. And that's something that really strongly considered because I mean look. It's IT'S A had. Somebody argue with me about this on twitter last week and I said that that the the betters are the ones that pay of course the vendors are the ones that pay if you bet on horse that was based like he did last week at Oaklawn or like you did yesterday at Finer. And you've got disqualified that sucks. It's hard and it's hard to come back from that. It's hard to figure. Oh my God Mardi up against oppressive takeout up against God only knows what in terms of medication and now I gotta worry about. Three people sitting high atop the grants. That might try and find a way to keep me from winning. You know all of a sudden things start to mount. Well well said Nick. Well done and You know then. There's the matter of the horses that you either used or didn't use in this sequence and Taylor's prints there's been quite a few people that came come back and said that that they that they played hall and Fackler and Taylor's Princeton. That spot I to me about you know The fifth sixth or seven. He had to improve. He had to improve and he was on route to running a career. There's no doubt about that for him to you. Know run a good second in there and to his credit by the way fackler persevered and finished second in a year. And you know you had Chris Place and and you know that Otani who we we did all we could to warn that Otani was up against it in that spot and in fact there was a couple of in terms of the analysis and the way we approach this thing yesterday. I thought we really warded off a couple of horses that were were bad. Favorites including that honey hearts was nowhere in the feature. But Taylor's prints if you had Taylor's prints on your ticket that was ambitious and well done Then things got chalky for the next two legs. And you know that that El Diablo grant I gotta give him credit and Martinez because you know made it to the lead. And that was the only way he was going to win. It was and I was very surprised at how much money he took. It was almost like they knew the race. What they really did know there. I guess it's probably the first time we find ourselves talking about sharp money at fodder but with all due respect honor. I'm sure sharp money but wise guys probably don't like to dole out that many compliments But that was a little surprising and then of course we talked everybody off as much as we could and I think he ended up going off. Slide second choice but the the nine a nightcap who felt like he was totally out posted and and was going to be in a really tough spot the pay scenario so yeah. I mean it played out. It was odd in that. I really don't think that That Indian roses who you Astutely pointed out as well yesterday. I don't think that Indian roses played like an eighteen to one shot in in the picks Or whatever he played whatever he PA- He paid thirty eight dollars right. Yes thirty eight. Eighty was that made the night right. Yeah exactly and I don't think he played like that because this is a scenario where you know you're talking about a even though the positive expectation was gone. It was a little odd that this was a sequence where it didn't even pay the parley. So and yeah I understand. Maybe everybody Kinda zeroed in on El Diablo. Guerande indoor ship soccer Figuring the chip soccer was probably to type of race but It still didn't it. Didn't make sense that he paid that much in the wind pool. So you know the I. It's it's kind of this odd convergence yesterday of recreational money from people that play the races here and there to probably a little bit more than that because there's a number of people just sitting at home doing nothing but looking at things like Fonterra Park and then of course the w betting that obviously is now a big pool And I guess they didn't like Indian roses so that's that's part of the reason why his price drifted up so much. Because you did see some some nice laid odds fluctuations which are to be expected of course but Even cy pool sizes this big. It can certainly have a pretty big impact and boy. I'll tell you I didn't see I don't know if I can tell you what the total handle is on the car. But it had to be huge. They were doing four or five hundred thousand a race bad various points during the day. Seven point two million. Wow that's great good for them. Good for them. You had something positive coming of a really awful scenario and Man It's nice to see I remember Kristie to let calling the racist at Louisiana downs. That was my first first experience with him longtime ago. My parents took me to Louisiana down from one thousand nine hundred eighty four. We lived in Dallas and then he he was the race color there so that was a net places going strong by. I hope I hope racetracks like this certainly get back to. At least running let alone some level of prominence but it is nice nice to have seen fodder have a little moment in the sun and same for will rogers who's been doing four million plus a day and those statistics. Those numbers are just outstanding. Well and a couple of other notes within the sequence that mid point ship Stalker. I gotTA give Louis Rodriguez a lot of credit. He rode ship Stalker like he absolutely was loaded. All the way around and commander McDevitt for those that remember. I was at University of Arizona at the symposium three years ago and I went to There's that good Chicago The joint that makes Italian beef and Nice Pizza. That's right right on foothills and I go in there. And there's an older gentleman and he. He's getting the pizza and head out and What is that call it? What is the name? I WANNA see. Dino's I think it's Dino and Dino said to me you know who that was I said who was. Jim mcdavid Jim. Mcdevitt the astronaut. So I ran out to the parking lot and got a picture with John McDevitt so when I came across this heavy caffeine the other night I said wow commander McDevitt I love it and I use them as the value and I tell you. He looked like a winner Turning for home and ship Stalker Rigas in basically nails him couple strides from the wire Indian roses. We told you third off the layoff I that's in Mitchell and looked like he was circling back and that if he was going to get back to a good race you noted Chubs charmer and this was a very good set of exotics in the feature and sure enough. Honey hearts lasted about four and a half furlongs. I mean when you see awards that can't get past five. That's you know that that's a play against then really. The public did not buy into that morning. Line on on honey hearts. I mean she ended up going off it at almost five to one. I think she was fourth choice. And then you gave everybody access to frankly fun. Who took some money ended up at six to One? Yeah he was ten to one with a couple of minutes to post I started to notice he was taking a little bit of action late. And I think we discussed trying to get to the three four nine if you were able to be a little crafty with super effective and maybe throw in all in the in the third spot than it paid. Well pay two hundred and thirty some dollars for a dime and was away for some weary players maybe to get out after an afternoon of action so I ended up ended up being a a a nice finish to it and and Commander McDevitt as you mentioned a lot like frankly More more southern frankly fun. Good Winter Sam. Houston won a race at thirteen to one for JR Caldwell before getting claimed and You know it was another one of those horses that like like the types that we touched on. Yesterday that had been decent form and wasn't that far removed from his good form. And I think that's one of the things when you're looking at these because obviously I mean we encourage everybody to keep playing fighter and will rogers and then anywhere else. That's running but if you're looking at these races you just want to be a little bit more forgiving about how these horses are performing on a regular basis and try and read between the lines as much as possible to see Maybe what what what they're doing in terms of getting a little bit better and trying to spot a potential move forward before it seems visible to everybody else. Eighty four hundred and change At congratulations to those that got through it. They'll be another one at the end of the meat. Don't often reach Half a million But we'll see and It was absolutely worth handicapping worth trying and even if you got nine. I got knocked out in the first leg. Nick you got knocked out right. I mean on the first one but we kept pitching you made it to the nightcap and and you cashed the horse that you know that you thought was the interesting price and frankly and the same with Indian Roses. So you know you. You can't let a decision like the one that started the thing. You can't let it throw you you you shrug it off and know that you'll get them down the road and as I said on Monday I put up with with the fierce for real money and then I got thinking down here so it takes a chunk out of the Finnick money out of the triple that hit with Finnick the fierce. I just this is out of our control. So you know you can kick the cat a couple of times We got four to choose from here so I you know take turns. I don't try to kick one cat too many times in a row and try to kick a different cat. Let's turn complex or anything like that. Well the lucky lucky is usually the candidate because he is. He is the devil in disguise that stirred the Tampa eighty. One thousand a pick five carryover it starts with the fourth. I had Kent swayze on yesterday. Who is pulling all the strings right now. Probably got more of a chance with finest jewel and he does in the nightcap with screen image. But let's get into this. It's a sixteen non to phillies and mayor's going along on the Turf Earth. He's low level claiming races on the tariff. I think that the class lines blur a little bit but I I will say that. A horse like a noble intentions coming over from Gulfstream. Looking at the horses that she's most recently been running against in the fact that. I thought that her trip last time was a little bit less than ideal. She kind of stood out to me as a horse that you maybe didn't want to lean on as a single but this is the super tough sequence in terms of how deep you need to go in really in the fifth and sixth races and so. I can see people leaning noble intentions. A Little Bit Centennial. Getting on As obviously a positive and though she was dismissed of course fifty nine to one last time I mean it top to bottom. That was a field quite a bit tougher than what she's GonNa meet here and in looking for an alternative. I mean I I I stopped. Of course it took a long look at the replay of the race. That business beauty in Sonoma. Sonoma me come out of and I mean the two. I'd I'd probably rather the ladder It given that I felt like she knew she knew me was probably a little too close to a hot pace and is a horse that needs to lay back and make one run. But there's also some some question at this point in time about whether the sources even attor force you know getting a low to mid sixties fire on the turf and and running competitively against twenty five onto life claiming competition prior. I mean that was encouraging of course and so that that would lead you to believe she's capable of doing it but doesn't inspire a whole lot of confidence and And it did make me WANNA probably focus a little bit more on a horse like noble intentions finest. You'll you mentioned was a little close to a high pace last time too. She she not my choice. I mean putting the blinkers on. Probably help can sweet. He's obviously very very well right now. You'll probably want to include her. Maybe at least as a as a backup Unless you have maybe a stronger opinion The interesting thing to me about this racist that it feels like the pace is pretty much. All centered towards the outside And and or it can be found towards the outside As it seems like I on the finishing Princess Brienne to some extent. Have to show some speed. And then you'd like to think that that finest you'll with blinkers going on having been close to pace last time it was gonNA show speed as well so I mean I think it should be an honestly run race and that should certainly set things up for horses like the three four and five when push comes to shove. The three likes winners. I went five. Four nine and You know then. The three a little bit Maybe even maybe even a little seven but I Agree Michael Lerman with noble intentions. Ninety to even get you even get a little bit of a of a value over Shimmy but noble attentions absolutely in a and. And then you know shouldn't do me a B and then some sees probably after that second leg is a ten claim. Going seven eighths on the main track. these are Phillies And I think there's a coup- yeah there's a couple of there is a mirror to here As well I mean you've got some offers in here. There's definitely some of the mirror reference. There are They're they're racking up quite a number of seats I mean you know the Horse to beat has gone as a girl can get who now shortens up to seven eighths after going a mile and forty. Last time she set a strong pace at least according to the US and and really stayed in there the whole way clearly improved Santana first time and but now his burn money twice in a row beating four times in a row at at three two one or less those things are obviously not encouraging but man. She may have found her friends in here. This is a hungry bonds and there are a lot of forces in here. They're tough to even look at let alone. Put your money down on now. I'll say that of course like Langley. The four who I thought ran well last time and ended up getting a pretty decent trip tracking towards the inside before making late. Move and coming up short so for eleven now worth noting of course that she has it seems like she's improved and probably gotten to her best form since moving to to the barn of Monica mcgaughey. So there's There's something to be said for that. And then you know looking towards the outside Mighty Electric Katie. Felina are both horses. That are capable of winning this race in my opinion now. Mighty Electric. I think rent a much better race in. It looks last time in setting that fast paced before tiring late. That was clearly a a race where she was supposed to improve dropping specially ranks to to maiden ten stays at that level. And she's probably going to get that nice outside stocking trip so I thought there was something to be said for using her and Katie. Flu caused a lot of trouble last time and ended up getting disqualified for For some of what he did on the backstretch she's a one run closer clearly benefit. If there's a little bit of pace I felt like the winner would come from those four. It's IT'S A it's a hold your nose and use for for me. I don't really have. I was looking for one of the lightly racehorses that maybe had something a little bit clever but I mean if you believe that a horse like shirl is going to improve off of just a total non effort on debut when she was fifty to one or lack of Tara. Who's been horrendous in two starts? I mean you're you're seeing something I don't I I I would. I would not though spend a great amount of time fighting with anybody about anyone. They liken this race. Yeah this is this thing is. This is a dog's breakfast if there ever was one And I'm glad you brought up Katie falloon of because that that race on turf to back. He's got kind of that. Look that you know might might come back forward That that could get it done. Mighty electrica is is mild. Leave mildly interesting third off. The layoff ear showed speed last time. When when moved from turf the dirt the route to sprint A maiden special twenty down to maiden ten Leeann little interest the mighty electric may be. I don't know so bad as as as I've written for years bad bunch of coconuts In the fifth let's look at the sixteen claiming sex. It's a mile on the grass. Yeah this is. This is a really fun race. And this is the most interesting race in the field or in in the sequence to me by far And I think the The morning line is pretty accurate. For the most part I think monkey mind will probably end up going off the favorite. Although it's pretty tough to argue with anybody who wants to tell me that they think barrel of destiny. I'll go off favored and It's it's pretty. It's notable that if you and this is with all due respect of course to John Hurdler George Weaver. It's notable that it seems like barrel destinies best performances over the course of the last couple years of all come for Anthony Granitz and I think that that's probably a positive sign Especially now that she's taking a drop in class and this is a horse that you know somebody who's who's somewhat enterprising might be willing to take her for sixteen thousand dollars. Of course we don't really know where there's going to be any racing in a month or so but in New York bread with some conditions She's got something did. There's there's a few things to like and So I think that you could. You could find yourself really using her You should use her. I think especially because it feels like there's GonNa be some pace in here. It's a gimmes girl. A monkey mind to an extent show speed. It felt like there were a couple of other candidates that could at least forced the issue and that should set the table. I think for a late runner so I. It was mainly live destiny. Monkey mind for me. I also wanted to find a way to use better yet. Who those ground and saving a lot of ground at. Tampon TURF is very very important. We talk about this all the time but That was a class drop. Last time. She saved a lot of ground. They just didn't come back to her. And if you watch that replay you realize okay. This was kind of a merry go round. It's gimmes girl and she's dynamite. We're in the midst entire way. Nobody really made a move from off the pace whatsoever except for better yet so I think in more honestly run race. She can get a better setup and And that might be enough to make the difference and I think if you take that approach if you also get a little bit of an assist from from CC. Lopez on. I dream of Lois. That things can get a little bit quicker and that would help better yet even more so For me it's it's mainly going to be four five eight and I'll use it to gimmes girl a backup and probably will end up including she's dynamite as a backup just because she seems like she's getting back into format save a ton of ground from inside post. Exactly she's going to suck along with Garcia down in there and I thought that she's dynamite. The five to one had to be considered and I'm really glad you You looked better yet and alerted people because better yet You know a little bit of a little bit of a billiard ball you know kind of needs to be ridden on a timely basis but Villagomez you know certainly knows her and Yeah I thought the just noticing actually Josh Josh Pants Country Life Farm bred this one super ninety nine out of a not for love mayor and a better yet The fourth leg is a nickel conditional. Claimer these are foreign. That HAVE NOT WANNA raise since October eighth so go and look through the PP's and find the horse that won on October seven and that that frequently will be your winter They're going three-quarters quarters. Yeah Tampa Tampa seems like the home of the time restricted claimer many conversations with my father about him. Saying to me okay. So what's better and to why or a B? And drink go through these. What's better three all right so As an aside these this is a race. I think that that pretty much is going to be. At least the handicapping part of it is dominated by two horses taking pretty substantial drops in class. Double Leaf is coming out of open. Eight thousand dollars. I mean this is of course it was in one other than earlier in the meet and it seems like the like Benny Feliciana is just just reached his breaking point with the source and then they kind of want to move on. They claimed him for ten really. Haven't made any money and you're looking at just getting rid of him He's been competitive. He really didn't run poorly last time at all. They're probably could be eight thousand dollar race where he could win. But of course with With this horse population basically just all sticking around and there not being any any maybe slightly better horses leaving town. Those races get a little bit tougher in that makes things a little bit tougher for horse like double deep so I thought that he made plenty of sense and then I mean he's wild ride. Is You know it's a little bit of a tough scenario in terms of really embracing Amelia's wild ride but I mean fear not in terms of dirt. This is a horse. That was the first to begin his career so In fact I remember I remember it actually looking through his lifetime. Pp's that he won the Woodford when it was taken off the turf a couple years ago at a keeneland by an open lengths of I think one by three or four so not a great amount of concern about the surface change. And it's just a matter of how much you want to embrace these two big drop downs if you don't and for that matter as well. I mean big. Gillette is worth is dropping out of sixteen Claims on the turf course. That's the bottom on the turf so it's not an altogether fair description calling it a drop and and you know so you have yet another horse. It's sort of a similar situation looking for more possibilities. Solitary. Jack is coming back on long. Layoff seems like he's got a lot of speed feels like a little bit of a negative barn change and you don't really know if there's going to be effective off the layoff with kind of a totally unknown jockey trainer. That's not had a great deal of success. So I guess the other alternative really is a great Loudini who close to to get up for second at this level and and feels like sort of a logical horse. His problem of course is that he's just not very fun to the winter circle. So it's it's a situation where you you know what you're going to get when you're talking about a time restricted claimer. If this is no exception and however you can can see yourself if you can embrace the class drops and I think you're gonNA mainly focus your attention on double deepen. Amelia's wild ride with the great loudini really being met I alternative that gets us to the NIGHTCAP. We're looking at the Tampa Bay. Pick five carryover today and that starts with the fourth Eighty-one thousand starts the thing out. You gotTA figure they'll bet Three fifty or or more and So this'll this'll blow past the I would think a half a million maybe this nightcap a mile on the turf and we talked about it with swayze yesterday. There's some serious horses in here that that show up and Christoph Clermont has you know has used Tampa and years ago suffolk as you know as a personal stat builder and Cash Register. And here's Gaelic Gold. That's the viewing for Waterville Lake. And this is a Wrigley bred filly gala gold. Yes actually have to Multiple New York bread steak winter seafoam. Who has been more effective on the dirt? Oddly enough despite strike rich being tear force but yet gala gold coming over after prepping at that pace park and has a little bit of a spotty. Work Tab this is this is a horse I think that I I have no clue what we're going to get from this source. I certainly would not want to be singled to her but I don't WanNa be beaten by her is. This is a horse that I could see. Clermont probably figuring you know what why not get race into her an eighteen thousand dollars maiden special weight hope of her maybe being able to run in a maiden race at Belmont in a month and a half or so Fingers crossed so I think there are a couple of interesting courses whose form is not dirty. But they're they're both going to be mid range prices that I think you have to include and I it's heavenly peace. We're in this scenario. A looking at a pick five carryover because Nettie training on the nightcap on Sunday and heavenly peace was didn't receive any support on debut but of course it was eating competitive Gulfstream maiden special weight race and And heavenly peace had no chance given the way. The pace unfolded that that was a racist dominated on the front end and she ended up being pretty far off of it did put in a little bit of a run. Looked like really GONNA be experienced more than anything else and I think having that under her belt is GonNa help her. 'cause tremendously so. I'm expecting big improvement. Second time out and then windfall profit if you if you draw a line through her dirt race and you go back to the the Belmont Race mid-september that was a period of time that first month or so during the Belmont fall meet. It was impossible to be outside the three pass on the widener turf course and be effective at all and there was actually a lot of money to be made betting horses back that were making light outside moves especially when the railways out and windfall profit was right in behind the leaders and angled out for home just spun her wheels and it was exactly like the comments said failed to quicken but everybody was failing to quick and when they were moving on the outside on that terrace course so this is a horse who now coming back off. The layoff. Dot shook is another one who's used Tampa with a lot of success throughout this meat. Getting lasix for the first time. I think there's a lot to like here and I think she's probably GonNa be in a relatively decent spot just a little bit off the pace. There's a good combination of forces stretching out and those that have shown some speed already that I think it should be a pretty honestly run race. Those were two. I wanted to make sure I included clear as day is pretty obvious obviously gala. Gold is of course that you want to use. So I think you're gonNA find yourself three four potentially even five deepen here and where you're going to find an opportunity to narrow down it's going to be basically at your own discretion because this is the thing where you can certainly get Get pretty wide pretty easily and I imagine that's going to contribute quite a bit to this getting bigger because it's a it's a super competitive sequence mentioned one wacky horse That I think has got kind of a talk about dirtied up and kind of a Weird Look Texas. Promo girl I moved to the turf for. Ken Wesley last time and is a desert party out of Suave Mare. And in fact I'm just noticing Stonebridge the that's Bill Johnson. Up here In in Fort Edward and the bread this Bread this Philly. She improved a lot on the grass and also had trouble was also out posted. And she sneaky in here and is going to be a Zillion to one and I don't know I don't know if she's a wind candidate but She's horse that That could sneak into the exotics. And put the Spurs to it So don't be completely dismissive or pass over and and I actually am a unabashed. I'm an unabashed fad of Harry Hernandez who is a capable little jock and had won a race for US years ago. And I I like Harry Hernandez Yeah I think. He writes a turf Ridden turf well at Tampa as well as on boot home. A nice price from off the pace on the dirt the other day too so now. I think he's very capable and this horse that day with some speed With the front running type trip. She just forgets to quit. And you know looking at lightly raced kind of low level maidens you WanNa always take that into consideration. So I wouldn't wouldn't talk anybody offer and Tam One two one five. Everybody Nick Tammaro and Nick. This could be an unprecedented week for you. You've had plenty of weeks where you've appeared twice but this could be a three visit week for an Tam. We're GONNA do some Oakland on on Friday. That sounds great. I'm I'm hopeful that you any listeners. Next week after having to to bear with me for three days. Yeah you should. You should see the last week you weren't on and I got hate mail. We won't even tell them that you hit the pick for you know. Don't tell them that some of it was postage stamps from from Texas either Probably Self I love it victim row. Everybody and I hope. Some people took advantage yesterday When he came to the nightcap winter particularly frankly fun that nick alerted you to and and help close things out and we had a lot of fun doing that and it was fun to do. This plus You know analyze the situation yesterday with the with the takedown. We're GONNA stay right here as I told you right at the start of the show John Pine was gonNA comprise are are for the most part are breaks and this is not a John Bryan vocal. It's swamp Dogg Williams but It's a song that was penned. And and you know. I made famous by pride Sam Stone which as agonizing a anti war and post Vietnam owed As as was ever written Sam Stone Swamp Dogg Williams Samsung has been family. The conflict overseen in the thirties asked aspro. Jesus Radio Sam Atlanta and that without but goal has been trained. Jesus the cow loons male just Mac damn down swamp dogg Williams doing John Brines Sam stone and our tribute to John. Bryant will continue all morning and Happy to welcome in Sid Fernando and and I know that Those that follow sit on on twitter. You know the the the anguish involved in the circumstance that we're all dealing with Said I I can tell it's it's weighing on as well get. Thanks Steve. I guess it gets reflected tweets You don't realize you know what you're saying sometimes and up comes out. I guess it's it's unlike anything I think any of US have dealt with. And you know it. It's starting. You can see the trickle down effect as I said at the start of the show. I mean whether it's whether it's a personality like John Prime Or whether it's you know whether it's a racing related Tom Morley's barn Losing Martin Zapata and then I mentioned the Norden cy who Tina grew up with With a high school with falls and was a real friend to racing because growing up in the area I mean it it. It's just trading and an overwhelming day to day life. I mean it's just it's sobering to say the least said you know we're trying to stay distracted. We're trying to stay focused on our on our daily lives and livelihood trying to you. Know relay the information that people can use and hope it's been valuable yesterday The terrific visit Gen Shah to help people with the vallone opportunities but you you know you just you gotta be strong and if not You know just for your own mental health for you know the people around you and you know friends family of kids etcetera and you know. I'm sure you're in contact with Joe Daley You know who's staying ready and waiting for the callback all set on your part to spoke honestly and came to You think you have spoken with all true you know. Let's let's I appreciate it. Let's do our. Let's do our duty and let's dive in and figure out of something I'm bringing either on the watch. Better Refocus Brought to you by hill and Dale and Mari I I was going to say I was GONNA use Wesley Ward with you as a as a talking point about where the two year olds are and how going to be distributed. Because you know they're hoping to him hoping to get to be the next sales opportunity and then obese probably in June and will be a kind of a double sale of you know the second and third sales in in Ocala But Kamari and Wesley Ward a good jumping off point. Because you know. Here's Wesley who normally would be sending them out daily right now at Deland exactly an income of course. He had that devastating kingman winner last year. one big went to royal ascot ran well and You know now. She's showing showcasing versatility. Transit Karen has a real good piece on Kamari on our website at the worker bee consultants detailing pedigree but suffice to say. She's by Money who's really showcased so this year and it's a nother Saturday in his cap. It's also a notable that You know the family isn't particularly strong. Dammed because damage to surfaces but You have to go back to the Fort Dama Polga Allen Paulson's theatrical America's pedigree again. Show that you know somebody bread a stakes winning mayor to money. And you know you're you got a really good. Shot to get a racehorse which is a really a racehorse type of tire and You know he adds so much to the equation. The Damn of course. They're getting accomplished herself. But you know didn't have a huge family behind her when she went to money. So we've got it on the on the balance you gotta give him as much credit because he's consistently shown Over the last few words that stage Kinda been undervalued in the marketplace and You know he's the type of horse that he's the type of horse that even though the line spikes town line There it's a extremely well-known line for speed and what's not readily available information until you start to delve into it is that they actually get better with age. And that's certainly the case. Spite Sans we've talked about here and You know money's You can certainly expect that. His runners will run through three year olds then even if they show for me too as it has. Kamari did the and I'm looking at commodities. Page now I really had looked at it and you know one of the Nice things an interesting things about her and about seemingly a lot of the horses that Wesley Works with. It's not unusual to see a young horses. Mcpeek does this. Cassie does it. It horses. That might be bread. Straddling the turf dirt line and on Youtube utilizing them particularly turf early because it's easier on them. Cassie said that. And it's one of the reasons he likes it this this pedigree. I mean you look at at the cozine part portion of this and her being out of a a cozine mayor. I mean there. There is plenty of grass including when you look at money. Second Dam a lot Your air who was by Lord at war I mean. There's there's no shortage of turf influences secretariat Lady Wimborne Is the fact that you look at lager air by all rights? She was really bread for the grass. So top and bottom. There's there's no shortage of turf influences in here and You know secretary at Big Part of monies in a four by four. I think secretary with both secretary team and Lady wind-borne Yeah and He's had seven Stakes ON TURF. That's money also tomorrow zone families. You know you pointed out because the damn second damage By your Hannah's Bergh Their damn of course by pulpit maybe in yours but the Fort Campbell calder like the actual so this is quite a Lotta turf in here and as a as I mentioned earlier the Dan herself is one on surfaces And then you take a trainer like wet reward of coach doesn't matter what they are Wesley's going to get him ready early with Royal Ascot in mind anyway which is terrible you know. He's changed his for went. Almost fit that by training in the winter at two In Kentucky Florida kind of going against the grain so yes access to To working horses and actually running some moistens over the winter at turf way which all-weather surface obviously so that's the kind of a program that fits him It will be interesting to see what he's got in mind I'm sure he's still thinking about Royal Ascot they're talking about saying no fans. There is no no patrons but Evan ruled that the meek so It should be interesting to see what he's planning Four and Without early euro sales It's GonNa be interesting to see whether he's got an influx of home breads right now and trained for people. You know this is it. Is it a interesting time for for a lot of people who have Two Year olds in training in Florida. Because even those that don't lead to sell it the not breed but don't Condition them to sell two year. Olds you know there. There are plenty of other Breeders and owners. He sent their horses. Dan Forwarded break to get ready to race. Obviously in at an interesting one guy who actually was wondering whether he should actually Take some of them are trained for a while with the with the future so uncertain He medium-level guy. Who has you know? Costs are obviously significant factor for him. And so there's going to be some interesting Development is year goes on Steve because seventy sources were obviously need prying race at keeneland. That didn't happen and then they were being Brian to continue onwards After the four early four and a half for five days to get ready for the Saratoga me So you know it's it's GonNa be interesting if you have a block of horses. These two year olds that are filleted for and what that means for the year and a lot of people may be thinking. You know what? Let me give these guys a break right now and perhaps Concentrate on down. The road been far racing where they Perhaps have a better chance to run You know hopefully everything getting better as we get to the next month. Well I'm GonNa take an opportunity. Here's said as we. We talk about Camario and putting this up on on twitter Chris CA- to lack Who was with US earlier from honor? Chris's got he said to me. I've got some hats and t shirts If you want to do a giveaway and and I've got the greatest trivia question ever I'm GonNa give it to you and but you can't really answer it. You GotTa WanNa I WANNA give listeners and people on twitter a chance to answer it come Maris. Fourth Dam was an Allen Paulson. A very good horse that fits my my horse. That time forgot moniker. Her name was pulled up the theatrical mayor that you referenced well in her career she won the Joe Name Handicap. What is that race called now trivia there the Joe Name I? There's there's people that don't even know there was ever of a race named For for Joe name if but in fact it it had it had a long run and it continues today and it. It's it's actually a well-known graded steak and it's been run in the past the mean in the past. Let's say six weeks the Joe Nemeth and it was a great at stake and it continues to be a graded stake so wanted to answer that. An answer that on on let me finish writing this Kamari. Fourth and one. The Joe Name Handicapped Comma. What is that race called today? There we go all right. And that's for we'll give out five hats and t shirts from fodder park about that. I'm having a hard time trying to figure out where the race was run. I that's what's funny in Florida. That's a clue that's not and you would think New York but but no it is. It is a Florida. It is a Florida steak and I won't say if it was Hialeah or or Gulfstream. Or calder. But yes it was created and run in In Florida to begin with and continues to be so there's there's a turnquest fight there. Live and everything you go keep China trying to keep people entertained. Engaged the Joe Nemeth Andy CAPP. What is called today? I five right answers either by email or orb on twitter all right I love it and you know uphold uphold the herself. It should be noted. I mean she. She was theatrical out of a blushing groom mayor. And that was Allen. Paulson has so often. The case said we we look at these stake winners and and their their pedigrees and invariably there's you know the biggest names in in ownership and breeding history. Yeah that's a family that he had and she's a half brother to Ganji good colt by river man. You know tonight's family and it's set time when out and Paul. Some was buying a had a lot of international Bloodlines of course. He took control theatrical from the firestone's If you go back and you look at Paulson. Sam Period during the time. He's and Strawberry Road Jerry Ali's oratory of course named for nautical points no not an article Air Air points Sittings with air Flight references I think he was a pilot. I heard who who is it that I think it's I think it's Dr all day. Who is talked about flying? And I and I'm I'm GonNa pass can bring this up with asking tomorrow. A flight of with Allen and Madeleine Paulson and cross country on the plane. Yeah that's a that's a thing you definitely use it there. Yeah exactly and of course you know. Somebody'S WORSENS ARISE. The of course you know the a lot of the bed. He had had a strong. International bloodline credits. And it was something neighbors and had success with when Paulsen one of the great names and said let's spend a couple of minutes. We'll shift away from Kamari because I do want to include you in. I don't know if you had a chance to listen on Monday. But I do want to include you because you are on the list. It's all it's actually. I brought it downstairs because the list of the list of the list of journalists From that era that we started talking about Monday for for years. I've wanted to do this. Reunion concept of writers that an anti gap irs that started at metro turf or figs form or the racing dimes. And I literally. I literally made this up one afternoon in the Belmont. Press box and Evan Hammonds was there and so we we started listening. All these names and where you know who started. Where and who was hired by by Chris or at Fontaine when it came to fix forum et Cetera. And and then there's like a sub list of prominent whether it was pedigree writer's Lane your case. You know that that were in in amongst these writers at off to the side was said Fernando and this is before I even knew this goes back. You know twelve thirteen fourteen years. What was your give everybody your itinerary. The you know the where you went in the in the sequence of of your writing the portion of pedigree analysis well You know was I was racing. I don't know if they mentioned racing action which sparked my God. I did not include racing action in that list and you know whole group of handicappers and writers and of course Irwin Cohen. At the time was the editor in chief of racing action. Why and yeah. And and Irwin I work with Irwin. Kirwin hired me there and Then when Irwin went to of course really good friends with Chris and they've been talking about raking times being formed in once once Irwin went there. Then he ib racing times too so And that was a great great Period and it was actually great because I lived at the time. Time is building in Lower Manhattan Call Archives. Which is on Greenwich Street and Christopher Street? Through the great building and it was one of the building that lived in because one of the places over there that allow dogs and so that building was just down the street which it was on Hudson Street. Were the racing times officers were so it was just. It was fantastic. You know Racing action was of course in Long Island drive out to Long Island bill time to Manhattan but once raking times came aboard was a real short walk and that was a really exciting time. You know with that with that publication and all the people you know. I think Evan Hammond is part of racing times. It wasn't he he actually. He actually started a publishing. He went to the form via metro turf when when things form folded he and Ed Fontaine shift into the form and went to metro turf for that year And some other people are Irwin. The Irwin on the racing times list of course with with with Steve Chris who else was. Oh Hannah Guide. I mean You know dipped the eventual managing editor of daily racing form was racing action to induce. One of my best friend Yeah they were. Just you know I. I want to listen. Was that racing action thing. John John Silva racing action the Silva DEFA. That's right yeah There were there. Were a bunch of guys. There were there and You know that was more importantly also everybody in the business at the time kind of ROAF racing action too so that all all your big writers Yeah I can't even think crepe have but you know all the big writers during that period for that that wrote in newspapers like Neil Mellberg Dave Joseph Smith. Wow you know. All those people always wrote in racing action to raising actually the weekly so You know you got a chance to interact a mcmartin with the photographer at absolutely there. You Go. And of course and also and also at at At fix form which was more photography was the first time that there was any color photography John John Silva just wrote to me Said and hello to John He reminds Kelso's sturgeon cal. That's right yeah. He was a big mainstay over there. You know he he I mean he. He just like knocked up article after article after article over there but John Silva I mean. He was really humorous guy and It's very hard to judge so mad at At racing action Yeah it's Now that you would put raking action on your list. Go back and try to find out some of the people that were there but you earn towing daily racing form. We're going to get the Steve Chris Than Erwin j tomorrow. We'll talk about his racing times Hiring and I talked to Jay yesterday John also reminds said Tom Wolski was out somewhere in the country. And Lynch Schneerson must've been doing Rockingham and mainland circuit. She now back to racing time. She did. Yeah and she she did that. Other people are racing. I mean Rac- kinds of course was like a WHO's who of everybody was Unbelievable talent there including among the editorial staff Somebody had mentioned the other day on On twitter victim either. He was young guy at the time. I can't see brought him over from the New York Times. He was on the editorial desk. Excellent and of course Steve's White Robin Who's the writer in her own right was prominent on the editorial desk over there You know bunch of really Well-known guys and where that office was Was also close to an IRA member to fix. Form came was like on Springstreen. Thank and according to that Lower Manhattan area was also Jerry Brown or grass. Yeah and rags and so you know everybody would meet for those various bars You know you after work so there is a lot of interaction it was it was And it was it was like a real like you're gonNA make a movie about it. You know the people that you have drinks with. And just the uniqueness of that neighborhood and You know rape. Paul was on racing time. Yup absolutely west editor. Yeah and I still remember Gray coming in from Kentucky for meeting or something and people. We all went out to dinner and went to the pool or something like that. I mean you know it's really vibrant. Uh exciting time in racing and It's good memories big time big time. I love it. I wanted it anybody that I had had You know it had some crossover that Talk about that era. 'cause this is a this was a concept that I for. Yeah I'm telling you this piece of paper it's actually. It's downstairs right now on the coffee table in the dining room and the living room but I have kept it in. I've got files where I just. You know. I put things ideas or notes. Or whatever and ED's retired Ed. Ed got out seven years ago. I it's hard to believe it seven years. But he's absolutely clipping coupons. I mean he's he's he's just retired. He spends the summers the he's going to go on a on a what. Sounds like a really fun History Odyssey the summer with his son. they're gonNA see some Some baseball and they're well if there is baseball to see and he's got some historic. You know he's a huge civil war. Buff ed. Ed can give you dissertations on the civil war. He's been to all the battlefields and those because I don't think he does re-creations the that's a whole `nother level of of of of of kind of crazy the military recreationists but but he lives on the racing times Tracking out to Peter Berry Peter Berries on my list absolutely. He's got him on that list. You Bet I remember many years night going out to bars with Peter Berry and he was very good friends with the editor of The managing editor of the grazing times the came over from England. Neil Cook the cook who is an incredible character and so You know you had a big European. In for Joe Ca- capable can take the Francis good friend of mine Married to Georgia Francey Kate. is You know what was the advertising? Vp there and hurt system was mandy winger who Who Actually sat right across the way from me and Peter. Rock Condo was there Pete with the Breeders Cup now it was just a kid out of college at the time has with Mandy. We're going to get to here. Forget here some other tales from from those years and I just think it's amazing said that you know obviously when it comes to the computer era now and handicapping products whether it's time for him and this optics E. Q. And you know the ongoing innovations that you mentioned Jerry Brown the Jerry's constantly Y- The adding features third graph But there's been so many. You know recent modern innovations and that era the late eighties early nineties between those three publications particularly You know the racing times Figs form which was. There's people who who still in fact when I brought it up on Monday and had Evan and Ed if people that said God they did great with figs form and it was so innovative and then metro turf. Which for me. There's very few people that remember metro turf but a well because we were New York and it was you know it was on the newsstands and it was perfect for lunchtime or walking. I lived on thirty fifth and second and I'd walk to my office at five hundred Fifth Avenue and you pick one up and it gave you just enough information to play the double you know and not be you know Lexington Lexington and thirty four there was also the one was the other one Not far from the office either. But my buddy my buddy Jim Mortiz and I He was working at slimfast Jim. We'd we'd beat the go. Go play the double and and Metro Turf. Had you know the last three performances and it had those closer looks and it was just enough to make you dangerous make a couple of plays and and that the the beat the B F Double when when the Ot New York oh TV after the with those letters and they would take the surcharge. The criminals that they were actually a bully. Too funny well said this was great. I appreciate it as always will. We've got a we've got a prep. We've got a derby the Arkansas Derby prep and they'll draw today at Oaklawn for that oaklawn steak and were we heard yesterday Jay Primm in reporting that Thousand words is common. Joe Talamo is GonNa ride. And then there's a bunch of asmussen than and Cox runners and and others so. I think we got something to look forward to hear When it comes to Saturday and we'll have a three year old or to to talk about next week next week. You got it sin Fernando Everybody Sire Watch feted refocus brought to you by hill and Dale and work thoroughbred consults. Ecorse five one. Oh four nine. Oh eleven eleven. Late season covers as the breeding season continues. Weren't April here and you might have some decisions. There's probably some people that have made the move to retire Mayor or two at this point that without without racing particularly horses on the eastern seaboard. That doesn't have to be on the eastern seaboard. I suppose it could be anywhere but particularly in the east and have said pull up Broodmare compatibility analysis and help you. You don't negotiate a late-season cover about that. We're GONNA talk to John White the next. And then Seth Mero in our three. I haven't heard back from Andrew. So we'll we'll catch up with Andrew Walk Ins as as early as tomorrow. Maybe talk about The Australia racing for the weekend but as we continue to pay tribute to John Prime. Let's listen to one of his one of his many War protests. This is black decal. Yeah I was GONNA say Kay. I don't think there we go in the back. Go the dirty bookstore plastic flag with gum on the back on the floor well bick did ban arena outside. Slapped a window shave? Ceo Betsy Raw Taylor out good. Abby gone your flag gal the Emma any already overcrowded your dirty. Jesus lag no matter what flagged in the heaven when the bank this morning and the cashier said the knee. John Christmas love. 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Disconnected 025: Yeah, See Ya

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Disconnected 025: Yeah, See Ya

"So all right Mike is Mike is on the last five minutes live now. Let's get intimate what Josh. How's your week this week. Non Eventful doesn't work although Friday Friday. It was pretty chill. Will we hit a bucky. We did Josh Yeah. Josh hung up for the first time and it's been a while in yeah so so we hung out in person for the first time in a while which is really cool. I gotta I gotTa be right so I saw this. Those on facebook jerks social media thing tagged Mallory as going. I also got. I also got to be a girlfriend for the which is really cool so you guys do now that I live out towards that area so thanks live here for the jets. Just physically manifests teleporting sanity now we we never movie. Oh you should plan something like all together. Something that was that was just a thing like a random thing but yeah that was one but he's always cool for those cases. This is John and I talked about in the podcast before because we talked about it several times because we went there to from architects as you should always do. Attaches is going by BUGGIES and you're GonNa pass it both ways. It is well worth the effort to go to it especially. If you need the restroom they have the clean restrooms including thank anti-seizure seat yeah and sanitizer four themes like every ten minutes and there were no there were in the L. is it's awesome. It's just in Denver those of you or like what's the deal that was passed but for those of your podcast we find the way we've been getting a lot of traffic. Stop getting myself but anyway. We'll give you don't actually. Eh is a guy with a suit. Pick up your store. Let's put I mean it's a true twenty four seven because there are some like quick trip and several other gas stations stopped their food after a while because it's just not worth it to be making food at a certain our buggies due to their locations where they are and how are these food all the time you can go there and get a hot meal. I got my usual suspects. I got Reuben Sandwich was chili cheese fries. That's like my go-to. They didn't Josh Breeders which is funny because we joked about that before going and then it really happened and Josh was a bit sad but he got a a chicken rob thing yeah spicy chicken enwrap so like chicken strips wrapping up for Kia with lettuce and spicy mango habanero sauce which wasn't that fight fees and okay great. That's like I think it was like why people spicy like because it is buggies and I wouldn't necessarily say they're like that's how I imagine. They would think it's spicy. It's like it's like level one above Mayo so the undercover brother but what else anything else you want to mention that and mandal salted caramel not fell care about so Phibro after hours on the last leg I talked talk for quite a bit then we talked about buggies and then I mentioned how lake they went for. I went to the one during our It was the first time I had gone in a few years and back then they just had beaver just the regular beaver nuggets which like corn popularly bit sweeter but their basic record bumps they added a few flavors cinnamon sweet sees all care about and the bold and spicy ones and it's all Joshua really really white. These new flavor additions changes it out but as more variety to the camera lens was my shit and so we went and we did. I grabbed a couple of big bags of those losing. Josh was like ground this like this snack bag. TRY It out and they're so he's in through the sea salt caramel one. It was amazing. Yeah Fun just devoured them so nice. I know now that next time to get the bigger bag aw no that was into bird but that was like like really good I don't know if there's anything else to add to Bucky. I was underwhelmed by the rap Rio. I wonder if it it just wasn't there. Were phased it out yeah. I don't know I own now. I brought bought a bunch of stuff much of a UH different types of beaver Doug as a little keychain which I'm really happy just hanging off of my bag now my bag trying to keep small exploding stuff noun l. but oh well and then my food so yes anything else. have been name is with you. I am still stowe playing yu-gi-oh on the switch and I'm just still playing Yukio. One might switch. I finally have like a fairly close to similar deck that I've actually played in real life so I'm having fun with that. Susan though I'm just playing the AI but yeah that's up here. I haven't touch you're all right back to near you really has just been yu-gi-oh for Josh. Union buggies Josh's week Yup Freddie much no ally because even offline. I've been on discord like talking about yu-gi-oh and how to improve my pendulum deck but yet yep. That's pretty much it well. You know what that's actually one of the I've always appreciated is when I go to card shops and Komo digitally but when I go to card shops and I still see people playing their favorite. TC G. They've been playing for years honestly in them. Bs and then yes in the same way that that one I see some play video game just enjoying the video game and not worrying about entertaining old unlike a human but again I do enjoy what I do when I'm greg several times on the podcast and on several discords like it's a shame that my enjoyment of doing that in one passionate has taken away from my enjoyment of video games in the NAP in my natural habitat but Sodas Sodas Valerie anything anything you want to mention that happened this week so anything you want to talk about on on a few dates played a lot of pope among Dell. We did the community data. Get today okay which was awesome. What's the price over the community. Today was Tour Tig and we went to a park. Take me my two roommates my brother in law. Mrs Sir am I nephew on our friends and our friends and we all went out there and we just kind of we just walked around did what we usually do which is playboy Mongo and then let's see what else did. I do this week. spent a Lotta time out of my house which was nice doing random stuff and then yeah that was about it. I I mean I didn't really get to play video games but I did download a bunch from What is it game pass that I wanNA WANNA play that I haven't had time to play and then Oh and then we were able to connect everybody spoke among go to my let's go peek at U and V account so that we could could all get the mystery box that you get in there and you get spun nothing but mountains for like thirty minutes and it's bonds one every minute so that was cool. We were all just that's what adults do on Saturday nights when the kids are gone we're just doing that and then we watch the X. Files because one of my friends hadn't seen that which blew my mind cause that's crazy to me and yeah just kind of had a chilly weekend or for the record of the episode. I haven't released yet been exiles reference. I did that before. She said she didn't ruin on the record that I the xbox totally independently. Thank you okay. We'll use crazy 'cause like last week. We we watched a little bit of the X. Files in my friend nate. It was like dude like why do you always know the best shows I was like. How have you not seen that's like saying yeah? I know right. That's like watching classic spongebob and being like how yeah I don't know existed or not you spend a lot of time playing like playing video games and watching TV at the same time lake take you just kind of find the coolest crap and so now he's stuck on it and he's like I know this was such a big deal like you're such a little twenty year old town. I'm sorry but it was fun. Got Out my nephew odd. He now calls my jeep. The square chamber because every song has where like pause again because there's so but he was mad that we didn't take my deep. He was a little upset but we I needed better. I WANNA play my music jeep. The I mean we had we had a lot of fun and then yeah image of food. Food's always didn't get invited to buggies also could have gotten my chocolate peanuts guys. Thanks it was it was how was your week week we last saw other other other than the aforementioned fat assery that I did on went and play. Ashville chain accurate bit of gaming naming this week for me off camera which is actually forgotten William Pat who said the whole like when they plan their LP's so there's streams while pat pretty much streams now will he does mostly streaming but also has prerecorded series of usually with guests and they they said one of them was talking about agreed. It's the best way to do it. is they have like a one for me for yu-gi-oh where they'll like have a game specifically specifically that they want to enjoy for themselves because after doing LP's for fucking eight years now definitely tell you you miss a lot of Shit when you're talking talking over the fucking game the whole time so it's really it sucks because it's nice to narrative-driven game because it gives you a lot to talk about brought to the audience but it sucks because you don't enjoy stories much and you miss a lot of the minor details where gone back and played some of those games and was just like. Oh Shit that makes more sense now and then you know whatever so the the two for me that have been streaming helping being is ascertained deliver mission on switch both really good conditions. The poor never thought would happen that I'm absolutely love the fact that I could play. What am I top. Five Games of all time. I'm on the go is really fun. It's a good poor. It's slugging to Josh that it's not directors but it has the fixes of directors actors cut brought minus kind of like extra content. That's not really nice needed per se so it was really good and a national chain is awesome. I think I think I still can't quite put it on this pedestal yet. Even though you own every platinum gaming I've played every plot but what I can say is for the people people who are saying. It's the best platinum games game so far. It's very possible they're not wrong. I love more time with it before it can make such a statement because it's a a big statement considering. I would say that ninety nine percent of people would agree that the only bad game that platinum made was the Ninja Turtles One but that one is still fun fun with friends and it's also only unpolished because they were forced to coincide with that stupid ass the second dumb dumb ass Ninja turtles movie so that's the only reason it was unpolished because planning to take the time that they normally take the put into stuff so for a rush product. It's fine but the average person pricey. That's their worst game easily so astro. Jane being dubbed Their Best Game. We'll see also shouts out. The didactic was one of the directors at platinum recently put in the book of World Records for some obscure Japanese Japanese game that he loves the high score too so he is like of it now so he's he was very proud of this plaque that he's posing with the other tonight so happy for him. The book of World Records next to being the shittiest company either is good stuff that stuff before we get into the videogame news news. I just wanted to do a couple of spots this time for people who are helping promote or slaughtering plugging regularly we have radio public which is a APP on an an android where you can listen to your favorite podcasts and podcasts that are on there since we had to go through an approval process do get a revenue split from that of course we need a lot more streams that we've been getting but once we do shoulders a payout which is nice so you guys do listen to you on the podcast and we don't really have a patriotic set up like that just because I'm not quite feeling we can do that yet because I when I don't necessarily think like. I think Jim Sterling's owns. Model is good where it's like doesn't really give anything back other than not getting off content so gems. Patriot has no bill has one tier is a name. It's a dollar plus a year old here but because he doesn't give you any prizes other than the content he doesn't get off any content. Komo with the exception of he does have a podcast exclusive is getting paid young exclusive plug as absurd puts out every month. I believe where it's more state of sterling where he just tries to keep you up to date so it's not necessarily in both gated there but you gotta get a first pick by the curtain or ask him questions questions directly that he will answer on there and that he does keep to the Patriots audience but he basically doesn't go. I I like share this. I don't give a shit. Given out of this is what I give you guys directly but the rest of it he's like I don't that's put admirals on my Youtube Shit because I don't want people to suffer the through Shitty ads being paid on already and that I don't have anything exclusive persuaded. 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We'll get that going on. Does it start. It's from nine PM until two. Am thank you for bringing that into. My calendars wants to meet me or otherwise nothing malicious there you go. I have a big bodyguard named Sancho that that always always meat-eating there so there you go into the video game us. Oh wait one more thing sky blue. Though I'm you the rapper the man under veterans label that desert thieves on is doing has west coast tour with Meghan right now and that tour is going very well Agai- Gavin to check him out on a band camp soundcloud spotify wherever S. k. y. b. l. e. do and he's a very awesome rapper big saying hip hop and jazz and a very cool way he may not be the only one who does that but his style and delivery of it is fantastic again in front of the podcast so please check him out as well but it was very generous to work with us on getting a song that we usually podcast very cool of him. I honestly didn't know Oh he was gonNA agree to it. I just said the worst you can say is no and he was absolutely amazing about it. gave me full reign and access to talk to him about about. What do you want to talk about all those details so very cool guy? Initiative mega ran out there on tour right now so there's not going to the Games news news this school or Nitro W-which I've been a user for two years in a little over two years now is getting rid of their video games service so there's two tiers right now. There's four hundred ninety which is just this Godi trailer you support this scored which I wanna do. I you know I'm active in many Eh disgorge so you can use your emotes inter server instead of just having a lot to the server that you're on a DJ college email server and a few other other ones that I made so that all you want for four ninety nine the ten dollar tear gives you access to their library in Games which had some decent titles inside Hob so last battleship brigade local titles you but they are nixing that part of upper tier service because even though they're free and part of that ten dollars tier most people do not convert to the ten dollars here regardless regardless of that and then even people on the dollar here seldom played games on their platform is still played their steam because well. Let's face it steam as just the choice choice. I mean I still played on. I love the the idea of yarn free actually appealing to me so I do own some stuff on good old games but a majority of myself. I still keep steam convenience. It's just what it is and because people aren't releasing his early work. I'm sure they're paying some sort of licensing to develop breath. It's just not worth it to them so they're killing off that service and said that bill likely still have a higher echelon tear the perks that will be part of that tier are to to be announced in the future trying to brew up some stuff to make it worth ten dollars but it seems like the people using the service the gate the Free Games are not what people are looking for so on you have until October fifteenth to enjoy the Games that are on there and after that no more so will the they'll be making a nonsense around that time explaining if how and why you should keep supporting another ten dollars here but I've been doing before I ninety for awhile now aww that's absolutely worth it if anything just throw a bone that we I see it as the Inter server email things really fun so ed you guys get animated display photo and all that stuff. I like supporting platforms like that because Fuck Steiber anything Oh. I'm sorry we're using right now. There's that a Do you use any of the upper discourse basic discord. I actually am subscriber. Aber Discord Nitro but I did not get the ten dollars here. Okay yes no real and I know there was just not enough incentive because I had it. I have the original original cheer for before. The premium existed so the upgraded to me. We're free but right even before that was supposed to expire in January but now oh that's just going to get rid of it and everything but it's a shame you know it's interesting to think about it that even games great gay Indie. Games for free is still not incentive for some people. That's crazy to think but you know they're making a real estate. Company the decision and just being like bucket them. Let's try and things so now. I'm glad that you know again. I ninety nine era. You're very fair and I think it's nice to see a lot of people thrones for them because it's like little vanity stuff that you get out of it but it's still you know. I'll get this is. She spent a Lotta time. Just go over here pretty much when all underscored totally not at work all these seven surprise surprise had a huge presence at Tokyo game show because Japanese love their final fantasy so instead they showed off the Swat mini game so they showed off cloud noon meals squats so you know a lot of people wondering well how how much of the stuff's being cut out well explain on one of the previous episodes a few months ago from how they described it now. It doesn't seem like they're gonNA cut out much watch. Which is why it's going to be an expensive as game because each chapter is going to be sixty bucks but it really does seem like they're giving you like chapter wants pretty much. GonNa be amid. Guard like dropping in March is going to be just mid. Dr And it's going to be like all sixty dollars. AAA Games worth of content and I'm talking like a real AAA title not like anthem have actual video content and it's GonNa go in there. You know probably have creepy stuff like Don Cardio radio also have the cool stuff on Swat was worried about being cut out now the thing that's a little weird users that part when when you're doing the slot game around the Bros.. That are suggested to be a little you know shady and weird part. We gotta pass out an eight like weird comments like maybe they were taking care of. You know they were doing something else. We don't know big. US was blocked out. What happened happened now. Whether that's going to be in there we'll we'll see but you'll be interesting to see crossdressing pretty cloud be really good graphic. That'll be interesting to see how they make him look. They ought to be the only reason the Vita game they really will have to be very careful airfoil because that's going to be very sensitive how they deal with the portrayal of loud because I forgot got what it was recently out we were on the position podcast largely Dale and Jim because I think you have is out for guests on there. John McDevitt from play replay permission on the switch and is there a spoiler buzz. GonNa keep it vague but there is a trans character on there and it's handled like you'd imagine again from two thousand and one would have handled it the Japanese guy who's not really exposed to that kind of culture now slurry has grown up a lot since and he made as Larry to the game year or two ago called the missing the story of Jj mack feel as a really long title was a really good one. That is an awesome It's hard to play the game is but it is worth picking up kind of like a puzzle platformer but the main story is a very well written loved off the by the LBJ plus LGBT Q. Plus community care about that's very admired by them and they absolutely applauded the one eighty swear he has done since then the combination in his presentation so my whole point being is GonNa fantasy now because in the previous final fantasy it was handled very mockingly and although cloud isn't necessarily a true trans person still feel how they handle it and show it whether it's I've done as a gag or whatever is going to be very important to how they handle that so it'll be interesting to see. I mean there is a part. Let's not forget about events at seven when you're running up the flight of stairs in the Shimmer building and NATO calls bear tells them to stop retarded so there's probably a few tweets. They're going to be made in distributing but so so it is but but it looks like I said I may not be a big effort seven mark but the it does look that up and play replay the seven recently that I damn excited to get to it so we'll see where last three has since dropped since I was going to deliver this news but I don't believe the last episode. I don't think we think the busted review copy. News came out like the day after we recorded new podcast I want to say I don't believe we talked about it on NASA but a three his out now as a time of recording but also before came out gearbox being the fantastic reputable company that they are we are behind the titles like Aliens Colonial Marines and battle-worn were giving out like Alpha known like busted ass versions of the game first of all they were refusing to give review copies to several journalists like they were like they didn't give Taco. They didn't give the Jim go figure especially not jim and they didn't give it to several outlets outlets that team would rid them fairly but then the outlets they did give review copies do they gave them a very early thought to builds to avoid the real game like. I don't really like some. I'm weird like image control basically yeah but ironically ended up causing more damage because then people reporting wow this alto bill this fucked reporting crashing issues before reporting graphical Polish Nets as it'd be natural in an Alfa Bill. Just all sorts of like you can tell all the build a year plus old and it's just like way you send out review copies they are supposed to be. They're gonNA be judged that metacritic judge touch stores are usually almost entirely done. They don't do review. Copies are done off the review copies which means you give them the final damn product it could be blocked off version. Asia can be here's the first six hours version but typically league you give out a tight of a mark version of the full games actually Ashley. How would they view it if they them with busted. Ask Game exactly so as engine seem like they're setting themselves. It's like they're just saying the finished product will be better be Pirogova yeah exactly so basically promising the journals they give it to that. Final plotted would be fixed and that that's only because they are getting old copies okay yeah. He's really got like a shooting shooting at that point. Though some people were a little deterred era by that so the medical school are as reporting today is a mix between user and critic the current critics score on metacritic is eighty two hundred as of today which is the fifteenth of September the day about four days now. I want to say maybe a week now and he has made two out of one hundred. We'll see where it goes from there lots of reviews and I don't know if the gym score yet and so on and so forth he doesn't get a number scores anymore but I think sometimes dramatic critic the he can submit ones is considered professional critic and the user score as of today September fifteen forty nine out of one hundred so quite polarized thing now from what a lot of reviews are saying and I'm trying to stay biased because biology copies. Actually you're going to be in three days so by videos. It's gotta be about a week late or two weeks. Later uploaded view of worn and I will try to okay so that's okay so yes why Murphy copies coming in but I'm going to try to keep those first possible. I am not GonNa Melvin politics and I'm not going to say that that won't make me a little sterner but I will judge the game as it is a game and Jim tried to do that for the most Oh spar in Kentucky who had a very similar opinion which is more Lance for quarterly and that's basically what they he said that if you if you thought it was funny then it'll still be funny if you didn't think it was funny then this isn't going to change your mind. If you're Fateh Lueders I juniors. You'll like this one. If YOU'RE NOT GONNA lose shooters. GonNa like this one. It's not changing the game. It's not this revolutionary thing that really buys. Critics are giving but it's fine that seems to be the general which I'm sure we'll be. I said that several times when I was on discord tirades of y y year box as a company should heads. I didn't ever once say that. The game is going to be bad. I he said I boycott the game and then I'm not going to pay for it. Yeah and I also said that people shouldn't buy it but I did say several times. I'm sure objectively. The game will be fine. That's what I said. I have tons of that shit on social media where I have said that reiterated that several times that seems to the case. We'll see friends who are playing right now and they say that it didn't borderlands. It's exactly what you should have expected the whole time because it's it's just borderlands fine. I know yeah. The only criticism Jim had is that he's never found Borderlands Schumer very funny so he didn't find this funny he was just like what do you expect he goes. It's not like they got some classic writers. Save one so that just put early. We'll see we'll see I had the same story as Josh and everyone else has spent tons of ours and borderlands to have less with friends. Does it may gearbox deserve the money though but the game itself is fine. It's more like borderlands too. I think Josh's wait till it's ten dollars dollars plan for every or so now is fine one. I'll probably be there with Josh playing ten dollar copy in the future because at that point all the money goes to the game stop which will probably not exist then and then we'll play our game and gearbox gets phone call from it and we got to play world so I don't know yeah. I'm just GONNA wait. 'til super cheap so yeah. We'll see of course there's a bit of criticism of users review bombing in a bit saying that it giving it all these thirties and forties isn't necessarily fair which as opposed to a critical point of view that is true. You really should judge games a little more objectively but you know we'll see we'll see I'll see what I ended up giving it. I mean I'm already kind of those things where being into into Niche Games my opinion is kind of already taken with a grain of salt because you know give me permission. I fucking like nine out of ten but then I give read through all the seven. Vincent people already disregard my opinion you know in your mind. Ohio are all a lot of people are fucking fucking yeah there are various of but speaking of upset about nonsense after just what a few months anthem anthem is joining the graveyard known as EA access head. That's it rest in peace so a a few months ago John Number laughing because this spike shareholders absolutely telling ya which I mean a are the biggest shareholder appeasers there's like ever and they were told by shareholders killed his ship and the AK promising no guys worry. We're delaying the roadmap indefinitely but it's totally boldly happening. I think putting the game he accesses not mean that roadmap is still happening so lesson learned end of life can never take stuff at face value while you can't take these. AAA developers promises ever seriously a. and why you can also as a company lose a Shitload of money when you don't prioritize. You're you're a bunch of fucking liars yeah so prior to the lodge in prior to the state that was built up. There was a point where the game was viewed. Indecent light. I personally at one point was at least semi interested. Here's what I use. When my husband died I was interested in anthem. They're talking about for a while. I was interested in it until one of the bio ware guys said about a couple of years ago now yeah so turns out gamers the the average. Gamer don't give a fuck about story so even though we're known for writing rich. RPG stories we're going to like not focus so much which on that and make more of a you know shoot bang experience which we have no experience in doing all and I was just like what weird idiots what it was weird. That's not the people that didn't make your company. People look he's actually so that is when my height for it personally died now my anecdote out of the way were you guys ever honestly excited for ended. It's been any point and where did your interest or high kind of Wayne. Why don't you just I absolutely not. I was never excited for anthem because I was still salty about math. Affecting drama fared pretty much so when I found out that anthem was like shortly announced like after mass the drama flopped I my reaction was pretty much. Well this better be a damn good game for as as an excuse as to why Andromeda was so bad and low behold so yeah now. I've never been excited for anthem. People talked to you. Look so cool though I'm like yeah at one point and it's called the character creations tool functions but unfortunately unfortunately just doesn't just wasn't good like the game actually controls fine right add the character customisations pretty cool you gotta make your own the iron man suit and what they do above most things because one of those games like that do right. Palette swaps swaps call. You know what I mean. You can really get in there. She was your colored patterns and Color Selections for like your first and second Eric Callers but but you also fuck with like textures and stuff so it was really cool. Awesome gusts character designation engine it looked good and uh-huh function the fine but there was no game in that sense that was the big issue but I never really got into it. I think I heard about it and I was like all the other teams. Go on I read about it and then just nothing kept happening with. It and I didn't pre-order. It wasn't like hey let's get anthem and so. I was never really excited. I get excited when I know a game is coming out that I really want but like anthem. Unfortunately I the never jumped on that train smart and plus. I just wait till I know that the Games coming out and not just GONNA keep getting pushed back or anything like that because at this point like I get excited over games in too much disappointment so now I'm just like I'm just GonNa wait till the Games already out. I don't care about what order anymore. So so games will ever preorder kingdom hearts was one of them roughest because I waited for so long by the sword order. That doesn't produce right because a lot of kind of that mentality. We don't really three games anymore. Let's be like something goddamn passionate about it. What it took thirteen years for kingdom hearts three to finish to be made so I mean I was hyped when I was making and then I was really high when I found out the release date count on my phone. I was so excited oh well yeah no josh hardcore into this one and as soon as it was as soon soon as it released. I Yeah I bought it on Xbox and I bought it on my ps four got the Lexus Deluxe edition ever bought and yeah. I couldn't even open it for the first two months. I own the game because I would just be like his ear and then finally opened in all saying it's still brady down the covers pretty nice yeah yeah but yeah that's a shame right is that like but the thing is we would love love to support gave because unfortunately despite that being a personal policies and the way we like to do things because it's just a smarter way to do because of all the disappointment that's happened. It does hurt some companies such a smaller companies numbers when they don't hit those preorder numbers or four games don't hit gold before coming out especially when they're like respond when they're under a bigger publisher where will close down as visceral studios. Whoever they close is now a lot of them. Unfortunately they hold them accountable so if you're in need your favorite NBC studios owned by Your Company and that's almost like take the gamble. I don't gamble quite a few times but unfortunately it's the it's the nature of the beast of that AB thing so we'll see the XS fucking helmet just like that you know the biggest. The biggest people who benefit from anthems failure will fall out seventy six because even the volunteers still so shit. This happened so conveniently after the fall as does that did forget about the fall of seventy six bullshit the anthem nonsense that was happening. I still keep getting emails by fell seventy six further half price. The stubby wouldn't yeah pretty much resident evil you resonate ability coming out not a proper sequel project resistance coming out so it's a very vague fully pre rendered trailer but when a lot of hoping in slash understood from that trailer is maybe a Friday the thirteenth style we Maldives one of the other ones are the survivors in that kind of game any again. We talked about this before not necessarily the most original idea the anymore nor is it really striking Iras hot but considering that project outbreak and basically basically every multiplayer resident evil games been dog shit. It would be nice but it's always the gameplay we'll see because I was hyper. Operation Racking City or whatever the fuck believe called fast so the one where you can play multiplayer. That's not actually multipoint and he just gets a friend on the other side of math and like wave basically because that one iced up any. I was like twelve years ago. This one is a third person shooter definitely cry. That's where you could see your friend on the other. Oh and may never give you a stylish rating 'cause they're all church isn't even want time woolley replayed and they'd never caught like a like a stylish rank from any person. They're all jerks about. Nobody ever gave me one either yeah I. I would give you my josh. Everyone was just thank you to jealous of the scales but you deserve this. I don't know. How Oh deep you are into like as a resident evil fanny general but if it ends up being a pretty decent Friday the thirteenth sow clone game that's Resident Evil Universe with the monsters liquors Mr Exxon excellence of worth would that be consider played with friends. If it turns out it's actually pretty decent or do. You really have any interest in this kind of games. I'll go check it out. I I definitely wouldn't want it to be exactly like Friday the thirteenth or death of daylight but when I was watching the trailer one invive I kind of Guy was that it would be like a co-op put one person it's because it seems like one person is essentially like dungeon master. Almost I know album Dombi then all unleash this liquor and then after they beat that he's like okay well now. I'm just going to put the gloves on and you know on what you know. What's his name. That's a really good theory because not just as that lineup with the trailer as well like our some people. Were getting those otherwise but I I like the weird fighting it but there was what games I was never winter game or something that came out a few years ago on pc at least where it was like and that was the case yeah what have you it was like a live campaign going on but it's a video game style where some of you you you played as the DM you call the shots in real time while the other people play through the Dungeon and yeah just actually that uneven more hype that would be cool. I would be way more excited if that kind of game at one gotta hope you're right. We'll see actually the dowd. That'd be a Lotta Fun yeah so there's that Jesuit talk about guilty gear a little bit about the trailer beautiful for everyone else should stop. Do your artists stopped doing anime games because honestly lever example like I always shit all this shitty arena nardo sheep in style game because they're not good but at least kill Gila kill looked good because artists help to that doesn't it disappointed me. The most is when I found out that this was going to help with the kill game and and it wasn't a fighting game man that was not like a well not a quote unquote traditional fighting game yeah not that type I wanted to fever Marxists like one of the biggest miss opportunities because Killick L. could have a decent number roster and arts is obviously makes it look gorgeous so all and have your music so the rest of it was just great gameplay and I think that although they have a lot of balance it's already between a blue blazer blue. Whatever guilty gear and drag ball fighters I understand they're juggling already but even if kill killers essentially just dragon ball fighters clone and he threw that into the mid size don't feel could've done while these people really like the characters so other shame but anyways may look school. A great game does look beautiful overall will yeah I. I just love the way our exists does their games for anybody listening who actually curious on how they do it. There is a video on Youtube in Catholic God who uploaded it but they pretty much talk about how are exist like does the animation for those games because because they are three d models. It's it's not you know they're not too deep price or anything and what they differently is that the three d models have much more essentially joints in them because you know a very typical animation and technique is when you kinda like squash things to make them look a lot more fluid than with Capri model. Would they actually do that. Shit with a full three. D models me yeah. That's that's really well. I've only heard by proxy the Processes Cooling Unique but I've never I heard that so you know throw that link into the Chad will add that to the I mean the podcast notes but your yeah but that's really illegal as really cool via. I just know that artists perfected the anime video game look in that it's never seen it done that well without going full three. D. Model whatever and even then as love and seeing it done that well even going through three modeled vaccine a lot shittier full thirty others that but that Ameican mega mix coming up for switch. If you glad any of the project DIVA Games we'll guess what is another one of those essentially they a greatest hits in terms of the song listen roster and then it's GonNa have when you sounds as well so there's GonNa be a total of base imagine if they're gonNA have. DLC for it but there's GonNa be a total of one hundred and one songs in the game so if you like vocal Lloyd's if you like us any NICO that'll be a thing if you don't you should probably say fuck away from that game yeah. I mean even if you're even if you're not a fan of Rhythm Games are pretty fun. Fun Pretty Challenging depending on the map map. You have it on yeah. Definitely I've got a I WANNA you know. There's a lot of lead to catch up on like David exe market a bunch of other stuff but if if I'm looking to pick up a time killer game that isn't going to be over. Watch on my switch half a rhythm game. I like my rhythm games. I missed mustard. Revise Line and you buster. You wanted to talk about a franchise coming back from the dead. I was so hyper delegation to they. Give me a bus three only to lose. He's like fucking minded. I love your so much. Someone gave me a fuck in pleasant sand Japan one time at one of the booths just because I recognize the song for bus agreement. No one else did so fuck you bust a move in Japan. That's confusing because there's also another bus to move puzzle. There's that but yeah I remember when I was younger out actually get those games confused. Yep Enersen Bliss. Oh because they were all the same fucking papers on fuck all reason so. There's that that's what I didn't expect that it was cool to see was system shock three now. I never blade system shot one like ninety nine percent of people. I place them shock to and that's pretty much that really awesome it was. Do you like bioshock well. You'd better thanks this shot because literally that game would not exist without some shop too so the biota where does were extremely influenced by system shock two and the whole skeleton idea. of bioshock happening was entirely based on that game so sequel looks fine looks Shinier Shinier what you'd expect from occurring Jim Gain the original director Warren Spector. We'll be back so we'll be. He'll be back in advising so it will be a true experienced. He'll be at the helm and of course showdown is a her voice is playing over. The trailers obviously showed and we'll be back cousin. We're having a a crazy is so that's really interesting did either listen to growing up onto the PC's negative heard about it and I I remember I played a little bit with like my family but I don't like we didn't. We didn't have that so I know we weren't we. We didn't have access to it. We had to watch someone. Play it which is not as much fun as playing a game so yeah at the end was literally. Eh Yeah you just kind of sat there and had to be quiet for a while and then you know every so often you get to ask a question but if you miss something it was like now I'm okay can't Dan can't rewind. This is real life so thanks is known for certify. Royale all royal I want. I really wish Israel from really sad. It's not a burden royal dropping trailer. That was basically a music video. That's it's like just shown off the cool art and awesome percent of music so there was that if I was a gameplay trailer didn't watch music so every five is actually super good. I think I think pat best because he was sending when he male and his answer because someone asks or someone said like Oh. I played I've Labor Zona Five which Persona Games I play next and he said No. You already fucked up. He goes personas hard to go backwards. Because the quality of life changes it is the each one is too good so he said that you really want to try to stay as far back as you can tolerate or want to and then work your way up so at least start from three then go to four then go to five he said if you go to five jump back to four Joan that two three he is going to be hard to adjust to some of the ARC eight -ness of the of the way the systems are implemented. They're not entirely different but in quality of life stuff makes all the difference especially from people who are really blown away by the card game and then you know have to deal with going back in time so that's just something to consider never touched a persona game me. I did three or four and five I deplore I than three that was going to be able to meet that much and then been five so there's that just you play much the first two obviously play three four and five but persona not the first to now. I think I have one of them on. ps three but I never got around playing it bought honor but I'd ever touched awesome. Kinda there. I mean my first experience was persona. Three says the Laura Straight yeah so that that one was fun. I know some people kind of didn't like it because you could only control the actions of the the main of like the protagonists and not your teammates which led to a whole bunch of means I never really had a problem it was it was fun and I think it was actually the very first Shimagami ten say game s game that I ever touched I have played persona. Four four have not gone around beating it. and then yeah played five and finish that one on so. I'm excited for Al.. Those Games are so good like we are just like really improved. It's so good yeah and that's why I agree with PAT slight explanation. The guy is like I mean obviously a bit over dramatic about impossible but five perfected three and four were each game does get a bit better feeling and playing and then he he's not wrong there. It is hard to go backwards is by God five so good. I Love I would say probably my favorite overall is the four but five was cooler than any sense I just I have a softball performing my first one but five over all is the cooler game and the best but it's really really good so I'm excited excited to play more persona and that's always going to be fun and we'll see where it goes from there because they're going to have cool remixes and original Psalms uh-huh and it's going to be really really good time-to-time w bliss you don't over Soda is just listen to some music and I'd be interested enough because it's really that good. They make a persona five royale anime. I do hope it's better than wrong. There buddy role on there. There are some things that were to be on obedience plays job. Yeah that's true true so there's the don't get smashed that death stranding that was quite the trail. Tell you that game. I'm sure it's running on the PS four pro but that game looks phenomenal for courage in game. I mean like a lot. A lot of stuff has some weird things happened to the voice actor sometimes always end drama two levels but like even a great Polish good-looking game. I'm like Detroit. Become human has worked sometimes because it's so dependent on trying to look like a real person doesn't seem to suffer from that at all like the Kajima Bucks gone deep into this one and it looks right. I did kind of forget that I was like. This is a cut scene for the game because like those are really long cut scene in the cussing are GonNa be like seven to twenty minutes long each one so so you know I mean you're talking about the same director who do the enemy of spoilers. fucking ancient has games fuck you all four ending was like the longest fucking cinematic ever like that will shit was like a movie when you watch the rest of it stopped so there is there is that what about you you pretty arguing personally investment to slash stranding. I know it's going to be allowed to get you have a long gameless of to do still and you don't like just foolishly every game comes out but you haven't packed forward whatsoever not really and you'll like I'm the only person in the world that doesn't really care much for depth stranding. Were insure some. I'm pretty sure somebody's listening and they're like man. This guy didn't care for anthem. Doesn't care does play you uh-huh he's writing. You're buying all right now. That's in place now. You kill related yeah. I guess something that'll probably either explain that or be confusing to the audience at the next question. which is have you ever ever been like a big metal earmark remark or is it? Just you're not really a big fan boy like everybody else but yeah that might be an I've. I've played the only a game that I played and finished because I can't remember if I touched any of the other ones was twin snakes on the Gamecube yeah and I mean don't get me wrong. I love it had a lot of fun. Playing in there were a few times where I got really frustrated with it but otherwise I had a blast with that game and if I'm not mistaken I think with the exclusion of phantom pain and and probably some of the weirder spin off. I think I own every single metal gear solid because I have twin snakes oh like the older ones yeah twin I've got that. Hd Collection that they may appeal three dishes. I think mainly mainly has two and three direct user yeah and then I have four. I have the five ground zeroes and then revenge vengeance but yeah it does make sense though because again you're not a huge mark. That's all it really is like chef like that's cool. I mean obviously he's. He has ah very good legacy but that's totally fair. Yeah exactly you didn't notice all your gun to your head to head about it but knows all in your head about it at all but at least it makes sense right like so many that would've made absolutely no sense of your light. I love every metal gear solid game. Ah played through all of them at least three times. They are those fans yet later all of them ones. I've played for vengeance three times. I play paying twice and I play in four twice and then I played stater three times so obviously I do enjoy it quite often. Those I play quite a few times but then that also explains why I'm Kinda geeked out about it. I was excited to see is that this is totally unchained which is why why they have dumb ass names that are so ridiculous but kind of cool and fun because they're just Okajima like die hard man and Stephen Shit like the hat so I decided I wanna see could move out restraints. Is that a good thing or a bad thing in the shape is going to be the one to prove read so we will see this mallory any any one or more casual spectrum than hardcore spectrum casual. I mean I saw a trailer for it been keeping up for it. I'm pretty interested in in it and see what's going on. I know my brother's like geeking out like our our corporate so I told him I hang out with him and we would play together just as it does look like a really good game so and I haven't sat down and played a Kajima game in forever so I don't even remember the last lane so T- and plus the trailer was also so already yeah ripped neo to Snia Jews. It'd be pretty cool. the NEO has has been praised by many who consider it probably the best out there are a lot of souls like aims to me at three like but a lot of people considered to be the the best of the souls I games primarily because this fight be heavily influenced by the soul series has a lot of unique elements for better or worse too itself so does have its own independent identity despite being like game and it's cool Japanese richer man so it. It looks fine. The is hard as fuck. I just know that much I remember when I played the the first hour of neo one. I never touched it again because I didn't think it was a good game. I knew it was a good game. I was just like Bro. I can't handle games. It's like it's like there is really that game can get very very difficult. The systems can get quite contrived if you're not really on percent mentally into that game in terms terms of learning. Everything has a pretty high learning curve. It's pretty it's unapologetic has difficulty like the souls games but again in a very crafty clever way people who seek out a challenge tend to have really enjoyed new you you pick the neo play quite a bit of it in you so. I never actually got the game. Oh vote but I yeah I played the Alpha what I've heard it was more difficult than the actual game when it came out I at least for the stages they had Kim was pretty fucking tough. Albany took me a while but I beat it earned. I heard that one of the things that and techmo whatever how would they do really well with the game is apparently they listen to fan feedback like a motherfucker with that game they realize the fact that their direct competition whether they like it or not is dark souls so they're always like okay but people here to play neo so what do the neo fans want and apparently they look at those those forums and they have implemented almost every reasonable and majority rules request in that game and that's why people did enjoy the game so much is there yeah like constantly updated constantly patched to the taste of the players. I remember the armor a lot of the weapons and armor BOROKA focus super five. I think that was one of the first things that they changed. If I'm not mistaken Yup that was one of the biggest gripes in the initial game and and that is one of the get praised for reacting because there are a lot of games I would have been like well dash dot bricks. That's just it like I remember one of the biggest criticisms assumes that critics would have whether they gave it a lowly seven out of ten Jim Sterling or even the ones who were giving a nine out of ten was people complaining about the weather durability and breath of the while not being created a system either so even in a highly praised game breath of the wild the weapon door ability. We used to be very fickle thing. I'm personally a cap sterling advantages. Don't think there's any place it unless you're playing God. They have like Sim. It's hard to entice people with their ability without it becoming more of a Chore Than Fun in Most Games so legally reaper away. He's shocked in thermal eight. Fuck them you know they're like no edge. Lord Ghost shotguns but there's that gun grade. Gore got raiders on the funniest series where I'm not even sure if it's any good bye love it so much because it's so stupid like it just loves throwing English for no reason it like I remember when fucking man Willie was actually one of the original times I was always laughing on it but like souliers. There's like Andrei ridiculous and this trailer with all the it's basically a big anime cut scenes essentially really really it really does he like the stupidity of it has is also kind of like the Games charm in that. It's unapologetically college ethically anime whether or not you like that it's like I don't know there's love giving a giving fucking. Some of the main characters English names at the Japanese voice actors couldn't even fucking pronounce and it was just the funniest mess ever actual gameplay should be cool but it's interesting the Gun Arabia's such as your poll for game two made that I'm like okay sure young grave all right but Joselin much time watching or playing games. Josh absolutely not gotTA. All Right Nights those underage yeah. I have no idea what to think about that trailer. I remember like I guess I guess step. Cousin is saying now now. I want to watch them. Play the first one and they've looked stupid. Yes Ir that game was really really bad. It's pretty bad yeah. It's still better than the beserk game but it's really bad well. Excuse me the newer Berserk game which band of the Hawker whatever that when want to check that one out too. I was psyched until no one of the better ones than you better us to do it. in recent time was tied. One's actually pretty good. Those are those are definitely worth checking out the what is the so games that'd be one of them. Castle Vania Remorse Souls You Gossiping Your title announced. It looks pretty cool. It is going to be a brand new game so the Graphics Knicks are bit. Were modernized not really bloodstain because it's still going for Mobile Western. Look than the anime style plus they went ahead and went four but they are going to have classic characters that you rotate doing rosters and so there'll be a classic characters and a remix. Some old songs also brand new music. Calvin has always had kool music at least that but really excited for that now gasoline is a serious. I Know Josh at least all your sorrow uh-huh oh yeah cardio sorrows pretty good. Donna sorrow was good but I think you try to appeal to the DS touchscreen. Gimmick a bit too much. I defy classic yeah. I think it is fine but there were there. Were some moments where it was just like okay. Let me I've played ordered Ecclesia. I never got around the beating that one that one was pretty fine uh-huh so my first introduction to the franchise unfortunately with Kathleen sixty four no yeah again with tear of a little you know what the appeal of the series while you can justify how the appeal of the series is because despite that awful introduction Jim you'd like yeah yeah ended appoint more simply than I yeah. I played some symphony of tonight never got around to beating it because I didn't own the game offered. I only played it like a little bit causing simple at it if you get the chance to pick up the clutch on ps four or for P. C. Tonight. It's actually much better experience it that way because the PS load times were fucking shit for for that particular. I know is causal. PS One blow times in general weren't great compared to now. Obviously I mean like four that gave in particular vogue low sometimes were very bad like I remember Brian. He wants when he died. Yeah you're not that I was not for the challenge not to not die. Don't loge so yeah. I'm excited for that. Ah Seven show the story trailer and of course already has subtitles below as well on its way which they already already get pretty much going to do the Japanese already starting the English translations as they do that because they wanted us to be serialized franchise now so so there's that it's not necessarily unique story because the story Yakuza Mobile Oh man does D to be noble goes to jail for a long time because of it to protect his son pie gets gets out of jail realizes he was screwed goes to get revenge. I mean that's basically the story of literally every game it still looks cool and especially because at least protagonist you're gonNA be wrong but it is refreshing kind of got get to see each state especially because eastbound is more of a nerd you so his obsession again with dragon quest being exposure Asia provides. RPG and everything. It'll be very curious to see his characters like development. Maybe the new side quests that bill types in many as they'll give you that are perhaps unique to him as opposed to either carry you or what's his face from fucking Akiyama or oh my God judgment Man Ohno well whatever judgment next called. I forgot gathers me but yeah it'll be. It'll be interesting to see how they differentiate from each from them because they do though their protagonists when they do change them out are pretty unique so it'll be really cool to see and learn more about itchy but aside that you can see the trailer at least grasp for what's going on there and check that out. I really really WANNA play games so bad just because I want to see how they handle the RPG style combat that was originally been watching Gameplay Yeah Yakuza to try to get to just get into it since I don't have time to play right now but now I'm. I'm excited for that one. There you go island the docket unless there's something also tedious you guys. WanNa talk about didn't get to watch much unsound. Josh should be the one who actually the main use anything else that you'd like to talk about doors up pretty much guilty gear val basically and then so finally final fantasy chronicles remastered has been announced originally two thousand three game. You gave the most convoluted bullshit cables that you needed to ever play the other friends cuts that nonsense out of the way that's one thing I like about some of these older player. Games being released as being able to trade without trade cables algae but it was a pain in the ass being able to play multiplayer without landing it up and being all that Bullshit Yup. It's coming out on January twenty third twenty twenty Japan national release right away but it will be coming to the states as well updated graphics. It is those same game but it will have all my multiplayer and will have crossed between switch. IOS android and yes even the ever stubborn playstation four so it's it's nice to see this starting to become a trend with the divinity to port for switch your PC and switch saves our cloud and cross safe so you could be playing on my pc which is why I prefer to play divinity but when I'm on the go I can continue my divinity game on switch which was the first Donald Donald for switch to do that and then of course destiny to is always been excited to announce brag about that. There's will be cross platform cross with with the data and stuff like that so it's nice to see that more companies are giving other companies less of an excuse house to why cross plays more of Yeah because I'm a firm believer that you should be able to get your blood from a choice without being pressured into the rest of your friends. Friends are get it yeah. Some people believe it or not folks some people out. There do prefer xbox playstation. I know I know but that's the thing because guess what when I was was look. How many units are still moving for Xbox. There's clearly an audience. They may not be in your circle of friends. They may not really exist but cut units are moving and because of that. I don't think the xbox is going anywhere soon per se. I think that a lot of these moves that Microsoft is doing like how you buy most xbox one first party titles you get the PC an xbox copies. Now I think that's just secure proofing for the franchise's which is to say where even if the xbox eventually gouging money and each shit they can still have years and he'll on PC. That's clearly what it's about but I still don't think that they're in the danger that other people are kind of like fantasizing that xboxes in where they were just like other on. You're going to be the next gen and other totally because if there's one thing that they knew right that's what I always tell people is may not have games but when it comes to the RND and the tech side of things they've always been the forefathers in terms of like playstation network's whole Janke ass bad net cody version is just an inferior version of xbox live and because of that they do have a lot to xbox because the original multiplayer for ps two sucks. They never have multiplayer like that ever again. Please remember the multi tap. If anything in anything is benefited from xbox being in the literal game of things it is the tech side because xbox has a pretty dope innovations and and the other consoles have done nothing but benefit from the very next knocks person so again even if you're not you're benefiting from xbox research because they do they are usually the forefathers ahead of the game a lot of that text stuff so there's yeah it'll be pretty cool though some excited for that all right guys the wild topic today this darker covered on the last two the conversation and you. WanNa hit it up you can genesis disconnected cast mail at G. Dot Com once again. That's disconnect because male at G. L. Dot Com and the final topic is going to be a little around to journalists. What is one of it's not number one just because to pressure to the and you know what is one of or the number one best game your favorite game of all time that you're never going to play again again because let's face it. We love a lot of these games by fighter play through x whatever ever played that I wanNA give my example by staging of this was the sort of topics. I don't want to just like give it away. Oh well. It's all whatever you got one in mind those again absolutely love but you're probably going to boot up. Slash beat again on man. I can't even think the one I'm pretty sure one exists Jeez again yeah. No one thought that legend in Dragoon Given some examples of London I consider I love but not very yeah. It is a bit difficult to go back to that one. You have to like take out a PS one for that game three not oh if you get the one that can wait. I've only certain models could play. PS One games they did they make you can buy off the shelf. I bought it from okay. That's pretty dope there no that I still have my regular copies. nice shoot out there because everyone loves a budget game love these classic. Games we will praise the heavens about like this is my top. Ten Games lists all right. What are you going to your next. We'll play through of it. Fuck off aw here's what your mind would be. The Aladdin game from any was a super nintendo is probably the cross tread where a lot of games of Disney games especially Ed Lion King Aladdin all that came out my husband yes and Sago but what the versions were very different yet. It was it wasn't on Sega but yet it was the Aladdin game because I remember me and my sisters all we're so excited to play this game like super excited and we were playing and playing it implying it but we couldn't beat that one part where you're you're on on carpet trying to get out of the cave and we kept dying and we we put this game away and wouldn't play it for months because because we were so frustrated like she and I mean this is probably one of the first times me and my sisters ever really sat down and got along because we were always like at each other's throat because there's three of us us were all girls. Don't WanNa different things you know and I'm not saying that just because like but we were difficult kids like we really were but we would sit down and just play this game together but we couldn't beat this part so it would go away for a month and we try it again and then try it again. Try it again. I remember being so frustrated that refused to watch the movie for like five years after that like I was like this. Movie does not exist. This game doesn't the exist I mean I loved playing it and I mean now. I might be able to play it but I still think about it in a my. F- that game I hate it so much. I feel the Games now I was like I'm never going to play a lot an essay or whatever but you did like you did like it but I'm never gonna the gaming ever even be but you loved the Nellie beaten remember thinking in my entire life and Dylan. That's one way together perfectly. It's never GONNA put down. You know kind of going off of that I wouldn't I didn't say this is like a top ten game that I love or whatever it is a game that I did enjoy playing back in the day and that was drastic park on the Super Nintendo. Oh Man and my cousin and I literally spent an entire day playing that game and we were so close to finishing it. It's like we got the power restored. We got the stupid boat and helicopter show up. You can't beat the game unless you collect all forgotten ninety ninety nine or one hundred raptor eggs. That's just we were missing like one or two and we were just getting so frustrated like searching searching the island all over again. Damn Sipadan. I've never had a full game. That Puckett game counts that the council for me. It's not quite those exactly because those are difficulty reasons. My example all is gonNA be Okabe now. I I own O Kami eight times on eight different consoles consuls and I and never going to ever go through the whole game again. I always buy every port of it when it comes out peers three ps four the original one and and then switch and then I don't was xbox also xbox. One xbox one digital digitals on there and then history is and point being is that I own a lot of times but I may be going through the first couple of chapters chapters and then I just stop and I'm like you know I beat this game once all the way through and it was a magical journey own albatross pleasures by its own its own somebody copies of the game because I want people to know that platinum was the best company Capcom ever lost and then I also so how does your pin on my bag and I love his character general but I've never going to go to that whole game ever again. Laid it all the way through the one time everyone on earth should play through all all the way at least once but that's all I'm going to do so for me. That is one of those games that I will buy over and over and over you making interational Asian Games with this shit on android. Even I don't have an iphone by Briley less just like gotta call me on that also because it was a good game when I'd be the one time originally so I did like when they dropped. HDL He has three hundred fifty percent run and that was probably the most I did since then but now like for example on switch like fifteen percent through and I'm just like that's enough of that and it's not because it's bad it's just like nick. I seen it so much already. It's like I love like on applying. I came out right. That's a very good parallel. Labor's gave out. I saw that movie in theaters twelve times and then I bought it on Blu Ray and watched it another four times. I don't ever want to ever fucking watch that movie. Every day. Tape yes very real. Kata had hundreds of dollars of six merge simply chain. I had all these shirts depend and I had everything I had a problem. I had but I loved it but unless I'm watching what so ever happened to Z. Snakes on a plane probably never going to watch it every again so you enjoyed every time I do got to the point where I saw so many times and you everything that's happening. It felt like a thirty minute movie because of how I expected. Everything is going to do this this. I gotta get stepped on a person's going to get bitten. I know there yeah thank God. It wasn't one of those movies where they like. They just keep hinting that they're snakes on the plane at the very end. There's just one that affects Jackson just kills it in one Josh. I think we should just both get. Patrick sneaks on the plane staff just sitting there watching bill the bill. Is that one of the funniest things from six other than all the good fun I have from. It was what I saw it on TV. I thought an ethics it was just thinking about the edited so good and he goes. I've had it with like clearly not even his voice anymore. Dr Phil Jackson. I've had it with these voices changes monkey fighting snakes Edgar that line I said what the fuck is my life. I said why am because another really good. One was die hard. He goes yeah. TV other one. I think I think it was in die hard to there's one too but what was the Illinois CIELITO and lead Mr About Jackie miss the Falcons Seattle and then the other one the other one that comes to mind the cracks me up was is what I was watching. Ho God what cop is like a cop movies like a third one had Chris Rocket. Lethal weapon was Chris rocketed another rush hour near that's Chris Tucker. I think lying right yeah. I think lethal weapon or something like Chris Rock had like a side side character in it anyway own gently too. I think so they'll be one of the later ones all all I know is that Chris is having an argument with one of the guys least Asian and he's supposed to say the n word but he goes you a back name and it was just like the most like did not get matches mouth and I was just like Oh really ah for and then he just goes in the offices arguing with the guy and he goes because Batman and then I was like that's not what it's about outlived their I didn't. I can see how does not what he's saying. Umbro like almost no more animated than when he says that word word and it was not not what he was saying it was theoretically long in the context of the bad edit but yeah good times. TV ADS are golden really really anytime. We need to pick me up. I'm just gonNA miss like Berge. TV rikio because in all they would have that much stuff at the movie anymore receiving credit what was it probably would be the last name where he bunch of wall our free now just all time uh-huh yet see you oh oh man the name of that movie. Oh Jeez Yeah Cini lines like here's looking looking at year whatever I don't know I out for unlikely that you know look that up on I'm looking at on Were I wonder like worth fighting movie ever something like that. Shit like really bad. They were fighting ever from the movie undefeatable and that's the one yeah they're just like That was like a Kung Pao but there's like like actually it was not funny like that was just watching the scene where he's on the hook right now headed for you. Keep an eye out for you. 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UF280: Maycee Barber, Justin Willis, Bryce Mitchell, and UFC Nashville Preview and Picks

UFC Unfiltered with Jim Norton and Matt Serra

1:22:31 hr | 2 years ago

UF280: Maycee Barber, Justin Willis, Bryce Mitchell, and UFC Nashville Preview and Picks

"Today's episode of UFC unfiltered. We haven't Macy Barbara calling in Bryce Mitchell calling in and just in justed Willis calling in who is very upset with my co-host, Jamie English, isn't he not really? He loves me. It's a great show. It's going to be good. Saucer talk throughout this away. The nobody is sitting chasing that finish. The garden. This is you have see on filtered. And now your host, Jim Norton and mad, Sarah. All right. No wrong right off the bat wrong. Jimmy's not here. I'm here. Savage, Kamara savage savage to my to my enemies on stand out about a Royal on the vile on the vibe HTC, bro. So what are they going to start with that? Listen, we got Jamie English and studio. Hello, Jane, you such a regular that you such like a regular coast. Now that I thought that you needed applause right now clapping at home. I don't know. That's and you know, what's nice about the first of all I love Jimmy. But he's not he s he can't police me when my singing, oh, you know, what I mean is going to go Massey. And I'm gonna I'm gonna hold back. I'm gonna hold back for a good minute. Or two is going to say, no, you know, you know, what I'm on. You know what I mean because we lost Jimmy. You know today. We've lost them. We lost. Jimmy. We lost. You me. Hold on. We lost Jimmy whereas our Jimmy we Lewis Chimi. Is Jimmy we lost Jimmy. But it's okay. We got Jamie. Hey. All right, listen. That's just I just, you know, shooting, you know, right? From the old hip, not really. That's not the right phrase now. That's right. Is it? Thank you. All right now. Listen, we have a we have a lot of people calling in today. We got Macy Balba, wait. Yes. She's calling. I I'm looking at the order. So I want you don't want to put on the big screen. What do you mean he read in front of it? The order the order. Yeah. It's on the first page here. It's. In order if they were but. We got Macy Barbara call. And then we got Bryce Mitchell now thing in. He doesn't like it. When I steal the ship. We got a lot to do. I love that shit with TJ dillashaw. I hold on UAB Balba. She's calling in soon the future ruthless. Yes. She is Bryce Mitchell. D-? He's calling in's, dude. I'm I want to hear about his growing Conway to talk about prices bowl. It's so she's very cringed cringe-worthy. And then Justin Willis, this is a crazy show big juiston. This is crazy. That is crazy. It's be fucking shoes. I rolled this morning, and I'm fucking you see me walking as I what it was. I didn't know walk like the Walking Dead. Get across the room. Not good. You know, but I'm booking when I'm on my in my garden shed. Yeah. Seriously, Comores, really? Yeah. All right now. Listen, let's just start off this show. We already did would gibberish Belise going. I want to talk about what's up with T J dillashaw tell tell me what's getting lowdown TJ posted. This this mort we're recording on Wednesday. This episode comes out on Thursday. So if there's new information that comes out between now and then fine. But we're we're talking about this about twelve thirty on Wednesday. Unfiltered fucking always lasted a fog in game TJ posted to all my fans, I wanted to be the first ones to let you know that you saw and the New York State Athletic Commission of inform me of an adverse finding in test taken from my last fight which was against Henry's. Well words can't begin to express. How disappointed I am at this time. Please know that I'm working with my team to understand what is occurred and how to resolve the situation as quickly as possible out of fairness and respect to the rest of my division. I've informed the UFC that I'll be voluntarily relinquishing title while I deal with this matter. I wanna thank you all in advance for the support now. Oh, how by? Voluntarily giving up that belt is that him doing. It's listen before they stripped me of those named let me just Jamie. Is that saying listen Ripcord? Let me pull this mother jump up because it's only gonna go downhill I'll be known for the dude that got popped and now's gonna get stripped. You know, let me just is that what's going on or am. I just I- weird guy. Yeah. With the lack of information. That's definitely a, you know, something could conclude. But you know, I don't know because you don't know what it is that them to said anything that's causing the problem. But it says lend you to think it must be some insignificant. Otherwise, why would you relinquish your title, dude? Fashioned a good sign. New York State Athletic Commission. Their statement was suspended him for a year ten thousand dollar fine for us of a prohibited substance. And that's it does. What the hell did he do to again? Like does. He doesn't know what he did. He didn't say doesn't know. He just said while they work in the city that was a very vague statement. I mean, I'm sure he does know what happened. I don't like this is really not good for his image. And this is not good. His legacy or anything because you look at what kind of sick fighter is. And you'll like all right now, why is he such a fight? You're gonna start questioning busy got a little got a little help. I mean, it's it's a sad thing the question. But man, I dunno popped here. Here's the thing that I would say again, I don't know say any of the details yet with a way. Like, it the way it's interesting that comes up before the Suharto fight was going down to await. Maybe again, we don't know whether it isn't accidental thing unintentional, whatever. But it could have something to do with him, cutting weight and not excusing it. But that could be this time another times right because he's never been. But he has been accused by Cody teammates. Right. But I mean, obviously be just opening. Yeah. Cody, Cody, different press conferences and whatnot. As has called him a cheater steroids. But that's never been something. That's come up with him. Well, Cody should be like, well, he's gotta be right. These code should feel pretty good about it where hey, man. That's quite possibly was a factor that sucks about these. Whenever these guys again if he's innocent. Why if if he's innocent? All right. What would he be like let me just give up my belt here. You know? 'cause I don't wanna hold up the vision. No. If if this was me, and I was you look at yourself in his in his position, would you? Let's say you got you got pop. All right. Listen figure this thing out. 'cause all I know is I didn't break any rules. You know what? I mean why I'm giving my belt up. You wanna take it from me for some bullshit bullshit going on? He's saying that he's you're saying first of all I don't think the is a mouthy Sarah like myself Jason, right? You know, what I mean, I could be filthy. Filthy is my little buddy, Jimmy Norton. That's another level right there. Little fucking your filthy like language was. Yeah. Jimmy's filthy and a whole different way. Yeah. Lifestyle was oh. He doesn't care. Well, so I mean, he's gave up the belt, obviously. So there is current. I mean, the UFC hasn't announced anything, but if TJ Sankey relinquish the belt, he relinquished the belt. So there's no bantamweight champion right now. Which is interesting for the division. I'm sure Marlon arise isn't to upset about this. And how Joe and different people arresting Kudo probably is excited about this. Not you make. I'm not going to see I. Tunes. I'm gonna sing like a little. I'm going to sing like a song bird today. Yeah. Jimmy's ninety Jimmy's that he'd be my my fun. Police share. You know, this guy might try might thinks he controls show with that thing like the fucking wizard of Oz back there. No, burn motherfucker. Now. I don't know. I listen busy. Bob mcauley. Look at me out. I was just I was just reading what are you reading pal? We'll get rush grim Zevia open. That thing up. You think I'm sponsored by them. Wow. You know, I'll tell you that I've been trimming my yeti. The grapefruit please that's been going around the left. There you go. Thank you, so much, you know that money that's been the rumor going around. What's that the yeti? I'm going to save for the sponsor later on man's gaped main escaped escaped do. Very good. The way Matt. So some other like pretty big news came out Monday. Oh, okay. Okay. ESPN made a major announcement that ESPN plus is going to serve as the of the only place you can get you have see pay per views now. So everything you have ESPN ESPN. So when you have ESP, plus is your such thing as buying us anymore. Yes. So you they're two separate things. So you subscribe ESPN plus that catch the fight nights. That gets you. You know, regular events you'd still by the pay per view. But according to Dana, he did an interview with Meghan Alevi. And he was saying this gives them the opportunity to maybe offered discounts for fights that they weren't able to do when they were on a bunch of different provider. So you can get you. How does it work for the people overseas, and what not just in the US just affects people in the you of so. Interesting. Pretty cool. I mean, listen I care about the people overseas because there's a lot of the UCON fielded army over there. I was just of thinking like I'm not going to be watching it overseas. Overseas at the event thinking, I I shouldn't be thinking out loud too much when we're on. Let's get that cut out. Listen. I don't know what's up with TJ dillashaw. But it doesn't smell good now. And he didn't say I didn't do you know, he's just saying we're going to figure it out. But I mean, it's also interesting just because he always talks very highly of Sam Cal, Vida who's his strength conditioning coach they all work with what's another a table. I haven't heard for him. But I'm saying, but he said, you know, TJ says he measures all those levels and you make sure everything's right? So like, I don't know. It's a situation. Yeah. Measuring some picograms. Listen, I don't know. What's going on, man? I'm not using anybody. I'm just saying that it's not good. No. There's nothing. Good about it. And the fact that he just gives up his belt like that. Just makes it look that's not being aiming. I'm being a good guy for the division. I don't I like I like TJ. He's a competitor though. And he's like a proud guy. I don't think he'd give that built up for anything in this. You know? So then significant. Yeah, I don't know. Really? You don't know why you're getting popped and you like, listen, why why are we gonna feed us out on this belt? I earned by taking out some some animals. I'm just getting just give that back, really. Man. No, I agree with you. It doesn't look good, man. Shame in. I wish we had one of those. Shame. Shame. Shame on you. Bob like things like on the commercial. Shame. Shame. Shame. Here's something else. By the way. I like I like gossip I do I'm not trying to be like one of the housewives of what of Long Island is is your house, whereas could be. The exist. They do married. Yeah. She's so cute. What are we got not official by the UFC? But multiple sources reporting way, you looked at me weird. 'cause I know what you're gonna say what he's going to put out Komodo. I have from him any SPN says that cowboy Sironi and some guy Alec winter have verbally agreed to fight fourth. You know? What's funny? I'm not going to you is it out firmer denied that. I mean, it's not officially by the information's out seeing region. Thought I was seeing regionalist nights came up, whatever. So I didn't see him. So I didn't get the bullshit with him yet. But you know, I like it that's going on. Maybe you've heard that. The lakers. And you know, I heard a rumor who. They say you got a broken heart suit for that this older than fucking. Banana. Roma so much say the movie. With the boys. Oh, I don't even. I just remember that song from it. And it makes me happy. Nothing of it has been hanging around. Oh, it is around. Around. We're again banana Dom. Fucking love that. He got a great accident, buddy. Listen. What are we to say? What do you think was potentially this ally went to cowboy? I mean, obviously bias what he thinks gonna win. Listen shoot you boy down in flames. He's. Time ragent Al didn't step up. Yeah. Right rise, the occasion, you could say maybe the Khabib fight. I don't know. Nobody else. I think he stepped up majorly said they still could be fighting that fight was going. There was no quitting. And that was on. That was I getting ready for a five rounder, Al raging the truth, man. He's common. He is. I get fired up with all my guys. I do the all get me. So like, so like just emotional, but I'm sure you could find some clips Amedure's fucking yelling fuck year. Al. Yeah. I don't know what the fuck I yell, but I get so excited walking back like after like certain rounds. I think it was both like in the in the. It between the fourth and fifth round when he fought Khabib N Woody Ford, Kevin Lee 'cause it's just it just gets better and better with him. He's just he's just dude he making the adjustment. He's just a fighter through and through. And I believe you'll rise the occasion, and you know, these he'll take out cowboy I really I really truly believe that in also seems like gals got his head on straight. And now that you've ever didn't. But I just made it seems like he's pretty focused like he he's doing the right things. In terms of getting the fights with himself with everything. Yeah. He's he's just matured in every way possible. He's awesome. He's such a great kid, and they such a great fighter and and Cowboys a stud man shit. So it's gonna be awesome. It's gonna be exciting. Nothing. Good on your resume. You know? Written all over. I don't know. What else give me on that card? But that's going to be tough to beat that one for sure and Macy barber. She is fighting. Yes, she's finding JJ Aldridge. JJ aldridge. She a pop, right. Yeah. At Barry rose. I I would assume Trevor Whitman's involved that a little bit. But she's. Yeah. And they're both from Colorado. So I wonder if may see like coming up if they countered each other. So she was Stroh eight and now she Macy was acey barber. And now she's going up from Strobe eight flyweight she is so for one fifteen to twenty five. Twenty five. Twenty five I'm thinking some of my late night adventures. Which will? When I was young. I'm not a kid anymore. Jimmy Jamie, Jimmy, I'll be your own little bird, whereas little bird really fly off to where little Jimmy perverted little Jeannie, a bird Goto of sorry to talk like that. I really like baby talking. I'm talking grown as many, okay? As a tied him. Oh, kobe. This and he loved it. What do you want you want? Some recently announced fights he wants a more news. Well, we want to do a little bit more news for three hundred day across the producer. Derek Lewis told the SPN this week that he believes he's been fighting with a torn ACL MC L meniscus for the past four years. He says he he potentially injured it in February twenty fifteen when he fought Ruan Potts. He said he found out two weeks before the his loss JD S that a tornado on his left leg. And then he informed the UFC about it. They doctors looked at. They're like, you're good. You could still fight. And he's scheduled undergo surgery next week. He'll be out about six months bit without. Yeah. I think the black piece gotta work as core. Got to work his core. 'cause I do not recommend. I do not recommend pizza. Don't you buy recommend califa-? Call don't get me started. But I do not recommend for Derek Lewis or anybody else to have a big plate of food like an hour before the listen Komi, old fashioned, call me, just the guy that these you shouldn't fight on very full belly food shouldn't have you should not. I don't think it's going to help you now. So I mean, especially because he has belly problems. Yeah. Tommy said he had to do a little Dookie Dookie. Do do do do. It was a different word than do. We all know what to do means. I see, you know, five year old those do means. But if I go a little Dookie or something she's gonna be like what you know. Confusing to do do situation. Jamie. We you listen to talk to you about game bread versa until Alex, right? We didn't talk about we talked about if we talked about before you you were just here. I was hit back and by feel special. Christopher say backfield's special to we stay shots at me. Always off air. Shots across the bile eight-man you boy from Liverpool. I mean, we did you hurt yet? Did mucking Eliah was a I was upset. Although I have to acknowledge that Maas Vidal was brilliant. I thought he was everything that he's gone through because he's a super experience guy and all that he's gone through a used every every part of that to get him into that fights again because we got dropped they didn't lose his composure to kept himself. Right. Come by talking to them. Some of his back using his legs to make some space. He was the drill. Didn't get. You didn't take anything on the ground really was very very clever, and it showed the expedience. So like, I think tell I think on a really a mild that that kind of way that he spoke after woods about till that was a nice thing for him to do because he's been in the game awhile. And he extended that that respect Patil by being like, you'll come back and be more. And and I thought that was nice because it potentially is true. You know, you can you can really improve from your losses. You can see some things and because that guy the whole he's got a lot of depth on. He's he's been in the game longtime forethought good people so from to combat from being dropped. And then the ways like really that was such a smart move to step through the opposite lead and drop him without that left Hoke clever. He heard them close in close when you look at his like if you look at his body through that punch. It's just the leverage of it. And it's like you have to have the guts, the balls sand. Right there to stay in that that that pocket and throw that punch. You know, you're always at risk of getting caught back. Yeah. You know? We're calling Macy now. Okay. Macy baba chased and she's fighting JJ Aldridge. Aldridge. Aldridge was what I said. I think that's right. What is JJ Aldred's? What is her last fight? Which was what was her? Liz. Hello. Is this Macy bauble does this. Vase e. Great. So good to talk to you again. Jimmy is not here. But my buddy, Jamie English is here. I may see. You're so funny Macy. I where I seen you and your trainer it was that one of the fights. And you'll remember me you interviewed me like Macy. Of course. I remember you. You're the future. Forgive me this now you're moving up. Yeah. This is exciting. Because this is I want to talk about the move. What what made you wanna move up performing? So good Schroer. Wait, you know? I mean, unbeaten six and now you. My body's not not performing. Well. So how is it? Now. Flyway? That's what happy you just don't feel great at at Stroh. It. Yeah. All five or anything. But in terms of nutrition in my mind, nutrition was really messed up. So we had to make some adjustments in the UFC the guys there recommended that that I that I needed to switch many Tricia up, and so that's what we did, you know, and moving over weight classes has only been for the benefit of me in my performance. Arm hitting a lot harder and gosh, I could drop someone now so much our my hands. But I mean, it's it's mainly performance. And and and. You know, this just how how my body needs to to be in terms of just being healthy human. So that's that's the way change. And again, I'm performing well. And and I feel great and I'm ready to get this win. And but I'll be back to one fifteen probably I it's just you know, what needed to happen for nutrition standpoint. Is the nutrition things that you being a twenty year olds eating whatever you want to eat and then fighting or. What is it? So I was cutting one fifteen I was put on a really low calorie like super low calorie diet for my very first cut. It was on like five hundred calories a day when I was training about four hours a day. So I was you know, it was it was not ideal. And I didn't know at the time that that was my nutritionist had me on and and you know, I I've gone through. And I try to switch them nutritionists. And I you know, 'cause I was trying to get cut to one fifteen and and every time I would cut it would get harder and harder and working with many many nutritious. And none of them are, you know, necessarily doing the wrong thing. It's just that the first diet that I was put on messed me up. And then I never had the opportunity to reverse out of it. So you know, I went from working with someone and then my past few cuts I've done with Kurt and eat Morio sorted. I worked with N and he would do the week of the water. And I mean, I'm Nick weight, and and and they're getting a lot of. Talk about them doing many children. I mean, they did some of the nutrition. But the main thing is I never got reversed out of it. So they were helping me with the water cut. But my nutrition still wasn't getting fixed. So and in terms of attrition. I mean, I was the PI, and I did all the testing out there and another metabolism was decreased by forty forty something percent. So my resting metabolic rate is only, you know. I I wanna say it was like seven hundred or eight hundred calories is what my body was reading in the day, which on average of a healthy young woman like myself would be burning sixteen hundred eighteen hundred calories a day, and I wasn't burning. And so that just means that my metabolism. And my body was was shutting down. And so from a nutrition standpoint, we have to up calories in order to get your body to start burning those calories again. So obviously if you increase calories, you're gonna start putting on ways. So when we started putting on weight, the the dieting back to one fifteen wasn't gonna work because it doesn't make sense. You can't diet back down when you're trying to re read recover your metabolism. So we decided that if I wanted to continue I have to fight up class because I'm not dieting down. So that's what we did. Because I wanted to fight again. And that's how one twenty five came about. Plus, you know, from a hormone standpoint from four minutes from you know, just being. Happier in the gym. I mean, one twenty five is where I need to be especially right now, I put on what is six or seven pounds of muscle from from November until now. Oh, also young too. So you got that. I mean, my body's continue to grow in and get stronger, and it's it's just gonna be for the better, you know. And I'm happy away. You know, as long as I gotta go Cajun, if I and I'm happy it doesn't matter to me happy when you're fighting like in a century. People. Have you? As soon as you start a training. You knew this was going to be your life Macy is that what it is. Because you're so young and you got your head on getting my life for sure. And and I'm not gonna do something. That's not gonna make me it's not going to benefit the rest of my life. So I knew that I had to make money what I'm doing if I'm gonna you know, you can't just do a store and expect to be great for the rest of your life. And not have a plan of how am I gonna make money? How am I gonna you know, be sessile? How am I gonna continue to like someday have a family or or any of that? So I did have to have that, you know, you have to unfortunately, you know, money, but it doesn't mean he's isn't everything but assured heck makes things easier in life. And so finding something that I can do because I love it. It keeps me healthy. I can make make money at it. Martial arts is is that and and the platform that I've and the. That I've been put on is to be able to be professional mixed martial artists in and I'm good at that. You know, I'm good at it. And I and I do it. Well, and so let's just keep it going. You know, I mean, I'm happy with the with the crew that have. Well, this listen this Saturday night, you're fighting changing. I like that. I love I love the confidence. But you're JJ Aldridge now. Listen, she trains with some dangerous. People pat. Barry thug rose. The champ. What is your thoughts on your opponent? Those actually train her a little bit. And I love have very he's like a great hype. Man. He's fantastic. I in terms of you know, I I've changed rose as well. I've sparred with rose they brought me in for that one. Camper train with him when she was in camp for the first time, she thought you wanna so on the gym. And then I know we're getting into it. And I know that we're we're gonna fight a tough opponent in in. I'm super excited. You know, a lot of people. I mean, my past opponents like, oh, she hasn't been well, not my past opponents Hannah, cyber didn't say that they think, but but the three before that, you know, my opponent's before that we're like on she's never been tested in a tough fight as I mean, I feel like all my fights have been pretty tough. But it's just that I'm over, you know, so. So I'm ready for you know, another Ponant. That's again, she's a tough opponent. She saw it and she does her style, and she doesn't well. So, but I'm always going in there for the finish. And you know, it's gonna be a good fight. When I go in for a finish. Because I'm not gonna I'm not gonna sit back and try to point Spar with anyone and I'm trying to frigging take their head off. So. I'm excited maisy. I picture like the week of the fight me being like entr like when I'm a trainer, I picture you as a type of person where your trainers are probably trying to tell you to foot off the gas like they don't want you to over train you that person or you know, what the chill the week of the fight. This is gonna ridiculous, but my favorite thing to do is play boggle with one of my close family friend. Oh, boggle boggle's a word game. Like, why are you doing this? But I just you know, I enjoy being I'm calling you know, I don't I just enjoy life. Sometimes like my last night. I went to a whole week. And I'm like man feel like I'm fighting. I didn't feel like it's happening until until Thursday when I'm doing the cut because I know that I have to say relaxed because for me, I cut easier when I'm Joe like if I'm not working out, I cut easier like I'll float a ridiculous amount. A lot of the nutritionist eaten, and Tim the Komi the champ 'cause I floated on a Fe eight and a half nine pounds before in a night, which is ridiculous. Like, that's insane. Especially for a girl. So my body when it's in a relaxed state it cuts way easier. So I knew the manage the the, you know, the excitement the the adrenaline and any anything that I have not manage that five week until, you know, Friday Saturday, and that is like enjoy. He I'm happy just enjoyed being around people. And and we keep it light. And and then when the fight comes you know, and win or in the back again you just because I don't wanna get too over excited because I'm over excited. You know, I want to be active in fast and have on my muscles. And my my body reacting fast. But I don't wanna be like, you know, to interject because I want to keep everything in slow motion. If keeping slow motion, it's way more technical fight. Or at least that's how I see it. From my perspective is like, well, I'm calling I'm relaxing. I'm ready. Like my mind is is ready in the Lert. And it, you know, it's not over thinking and trying to take in everything at the same time. So it's it's pretty chill. And it's I'm figuring that out. You know, I'm only seven fights in the seven or eight and we're slowly figuring out the process. That's how I feel about. It is is finally we just enjoy it. You know? I mean, it's taking it all in. It's not gonna do this. I gotta do. I know the worst been put in and I know that. You know, I'm ready, and I'm cured. But it should you know, enjoying the time taking reading in. You know, I've done interview after interview and we've done, you know, we're we're just it's just a good day in trying to, you know, take every every bit because you know, we only have one life. And and this is only this is only gonna happen. Once though today is only going to happen once and and it's never going to be the same day again. So I'm trying to look at it that way, and and enjoy it that way. Jamie. Yeah. May said a quick question for you been watching a couple fights there. It's been for me. My perspective matai boxer also big fan of the mixed martial arts, and the and the the the way the people put things together and you being at such a young age, it appears to me very clearly to me that you have very very solid team behind you. You very well rounded the way that you're throwing elbows from the clinch. Whether it's on the cage away from the cage when you go to the ground. You're mmediately like press in the action when you throw in punches you misaligned in your head to get extra power from the top. Like these details that I try to pay attention to and when I see that in such a young fighter as a extended sell for me to believe you've got a very intelligent directed camp. Which leads me to this question is when you have opponents that that that you facing does your Campbell yourself? Do you have any influence on the people? That you're you're gonna you're gonna fight like do you ever request anybody because I've always been a an a no, you're younger new career. But I've always been a a big believer in like, you know, the choices that you if you have any influence over the people you fight it could be a good thing because you can choose to fight people that you think are going to make you a better fighter rather than just take any fight. You actually specifically look into people to make you a better fighter is a possibility for your come to you actually, look to choose your opponents, would you just take going because you're so confident? So as of right now. Well, I thank you for the compliment. But yeah, as right now, we haven't we haven't been super picky with at all, you know, my I am I did one amateur by. And then I turned pro because I couldn't get girls defied me. And I really didn't care. I don't care who you give me. I just wanna fight. So I turned pro. And I thought you know, an elephant and I have several back out. So it's hard enough just to get opponents to fight. But none of them in the only had one in the US. See again, I schedule the fight. My stevenson. She she pulled her out for injury or something. So I had a replacement opponent in. And so I haven't had the ability to do that or the or the needs to do in terms of that. I mean, if you turned down, and and you take a Utah to pick and choose your opponents with the UFC, I mean at the end of the day. I mean, they're trying to they're trying to. To build me as much as I'm trying to build myself them. So we're working together. And and put it they gave is there's there must be a reason behind the opponent that they're giving me. And so we definitely try to take that opponent. No now, that's something that ends up being negotiated. I don't know I will be the civic person. But I definitely have a team a camp that will talk. You know, have my dad who's my manager Bucky barber. I have Mark I have is e I have met. I have all of those guys who will come together and collaborate, and we'll talk, and we'll be like is this fight that we want is this the right time. It's not necessarily the fighter is most of the time. You know, the right time to this person because there are going to be there. We're going to be fired. You know, the that. I'm like are not a a reasonable matchup for for the timing. You know, but in terms of right now, I mean, I don't even like they offered me JJ, and I was like jury, let's do it. You know? It doesn't matter because I know that there's something to be learned from everyone. Whether it's keep boxer or wrestler, or anyone there's something to be learned from everyone style. And it's not even just the opponent. If it's the fact that okay this person's good at wrestling. So we focus more wrestling. Well that just gives me opportunity to better my wrestling. You know, so it's not it's not what I can learn from them. It's it's the preparation for them that you also learn I mean, the twelve weeks or the however long of camp that I have I mean, it's all of that. I it's a maximize my time is in studying that aspect of the game. But again, I try not to have camps. You know, we try to continuously try to grow. So I feel that's why I q remind my intelligence in terms of fighting is is is high because I have spent my whole life in the gym for the time three years old until now, you know, I'm never stopped with martial arts in my life. Sorry. Good macy. What? No, I'm just saying. We are enjoying watching your journey, and you're so young. I can't wait to watch. I can't watch this Saturday. You are kicking off the main card. You have see Nashville verse JJ Aldridge, and it's this Saturday night, March twenty third eight PM eastern, and that's on ESPN plus maisy. I can't wait to watch. And if things go, well, let's let's talk again. Awesome. Them one. And you'll be talking to me soon the future. Alright basie. Thank you so much. Thank you so much take it out by by by. She's so much fun. I can't wait to watch. Yeah. She's very fun. A young woman got such a mature head on our show, very measured in their protests. Talk. Looks like she fights. It's obviously somebody that grew up watching the like, she doesn't get it. You know what I mean? It's like Connor came on the scene goes got knows all aspects of it. She took the Bryce Mitchell in a couple of tell you. I'm reading some stuff up on Justin Willis. This shit going on man. What's his name Tara too? Yeah. Yeah. Tie to tie to tie tie tie to to Vasa. Yeah. Tied to it's called a big titty. Cool. And Curtis blades is going after him. And I love that shit. I've a I talk into. Bryce, Mitchell, man. Yup. While has he talked a lot about the the incident. He's he's gotten into sure. But I'm sure he'll he's he's a good, dude. You know, thug nasty man thug. First of all, I focus love that. Nick. Kidd was born two years after I graduated high school. Yo yo Bryce Mitchell. What's up man, you're on your c unfiltered Panton? Thank you, Bradley. God. I like this kid ready, man. Are you talking about Sarah? And Jamie English is also in studio. Hello mate. Listen, you remember meet me years back? I will was that Bryce remind refresh my memory because everybody knows fucking shot. I I'm getting there to man. Yeah. I came I live with Al for like a month or two I trained at your Jim you got you got to gyms don't of holy shit. Man. I'm just putting together. Yeah. Been in the case with algebra. We you know, I went I went at the gym where you just do you to school? Yes. Holy shit rice. So I'm just putting this together. Now, I do verse. While how are you buddy? He's such a nice kid. Now. I remember that was what was that a couple years ago or less? Yeah. Probably like three or four years before to be going up there. It's been on my money going up there. You got to go up there. More often. We had a good time. You kill right now. I put it off together. I would have. No. 'cause you're being known now is the poor guy that that hurts your I don't wanna say nut sack. But was it. You're not sick, Bryce. It was my nuts. It all right. I know this kid, Jamie. That's a nice kid. He's a plight kid. He's been at my school. Don't let the nickname nasty fool you. Kidding, kicks them. Fuck it is. But he's a nice kid. That's listen a Bryce I don't wanna relive. I want you to have to relive this thing. But we got a pretty big audience. You gotta just just let us know what happened. Bad working on a roof, and I had a three eight drill bit like titanium one, and I was pre drilling the would taking the drill bit out putting bolts in afterwards and we'll hole it makes. And so I was holding up a board. Sizing up where I wanted to go put the drill in my pants on me, and I didn't have to belt or drill holster. And I you know, I get one of them and put the drill in my pants outside of the board. It went off wrapped up my testicle. Sorry, teases thrill like it all happened. So quick, you know, I thought it my dick off. And I went and tried to pull the drill out in in. My my nuts came with it. It was my notes were wrapped around the the breeze drill bit. And I said, you know, the only thing I could think of what the reverse the drill. 'cause they I mean, I literally was stuck on nuts. And so I've heard for and unwound attention. And then my nuts was free again. And they were just big old hole right down the middle of it didn't tear Tesco off it just rip the second half. And they had just drove the hospital as fast now, how is your past? Jamie was on the floor. Now, how how's your this is so funny now look at the picture of do they know what his Bryce I'm happy, you're doing besides your nuts. I'm so happy that you doing so. Well, man, it's funny because I got so much going on in my life. And then I'm like miniscule looks familiar with this Kim's at my place for a bit. That's a very impressive that he's a that. He's hoping show. So wait now, I I'm big I'm big huge fans of your crewman. You got you got you got Wiedeman, man. You you got so many good fires up there. I can't remember the guy's name. He's like he's like a Russian does a lot of samba lot of lateral drops. I mean, he threw me on my head like ten times. Do savage morale. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There man. I just love going up there if I had more money and time, I I'd be there all the time. And you're welcome to come back, man. Now that I now let's put it together. And in fairness I haven't seen for years, but you've been dude you've been doing the right thing, obviously. Yeah. So now really quick dome. All you able to have children is everything. Okay. With you. On gave it a few tests on since then. Good. Bryce, if people have seen them these could be in a boy Bailey, Jamie English said when he seen them. Yeah. Meanwhile, gotten uglier. Dude, you make people oddly. So now, tell me man now, you're in this is this is what you wanted. And is what you worked for when I see met you how many years ago, you're in the big show whereas head. Yeah. Man. I mean, I'm fighting for my family, you know, to better my future better their future. I don't come from much. We don't have much, and you know, I'm just fighting for for everything I've ever wanted. So he goes to give it everything I got fighting, Bobby. Who's it move? It right Moffitt. Tell me which thoughts on this. Dude. You watch a lot of. I mean, I watched a little bit of tape. I'm not big on studying everything that they do. She's not my style, you know. But I do watch enough tape, you know, to to know a few tendencies, but you know, I don't studied every night. I got other other stuff to do. But. You know, I definitely studied in prepared the best I've ever prepared for any fight. You know, I feel confident and he wants to take me down and cement me. He's already said it. And so, you know, I'm just trying to make sure he don't do that. Well, you know, I see firsthand that you are not bad at all on the floor. You're very dangerous. I seen you it some studs attacking you. I mean, I mean, it's it's gonna be a battle. I think he's probably underestimate me a little bit. But you know, we'll see I say all this stuff. But you know, we're we'll really see on Saturday night percent. We will now. Listen, really quick, dude. Thug nasty you give that to yourself. Would you get that from man, I call me that on the streets, man. That shit from the streets from the streets. My buddy started calling me that is just a funny little name. And then you know, midges stuck people started calling me that it was funny people like it. You know, I try to be polite as I can I'm not really a, you know, rude rude individual or anything like that. It's just a funny name ironic name because you are pulling on it is. It is I Ronnie. Doesn't mean he can't bring no thug shit. You understand Jamie English saying man, I'm on some gangster shit too. Jamie was she got a question for this young yet. So Briceno that there was some talk about the last fight you had with maybe a little struggle with a hydration. A you do differently this time for this fight 'em in terms of that preparation on hydration. Oh, man. I I was that mean thing is no you're gonna go think, I'm an idiot. I didn't hydrate properly for the fight. I didn't cutting weight I showed up and one hundred forty six pounds. That was you know, I didn't I literally weighed one hundred forty six pounds a day of the fight. So I didn't I didn't cut anyway, I didn't hydrate. I didn't have any time. I was working on stuff. I was going through a lot and my wife trying to get my trailer setup. Trying to get my plumbing setup. Trying to get my AC working. I had to take out a window for my CNN feel it so bugs and shit. Don't get in my trailer. You know, so I was I was digging ditches. I didn't you know. And I showed up on the fight and just just book and fought, man. I was one hundred forty six and I didn't give a fuck, and I didn't hydrate properly and. You know, that's the first time I've ever got dehydrated and fight. And after the fight I couldn't walk like instantly every the fight. I was dizzy I was sick. I I literally couldn't walk out of the cage and wouldn't because he just you know, kick the shit on my legs. But it was like my legs. It goes give out. I was dizzy in the room was spending. And I was like sick to my stomach. But I was literally dehydrate I took two bags IV's like quicker and I've ever taken I've used before. But yes, so I gained a lot of weight this fight walk around by one sixty drinking plenty of water and just doing a lot smarter men. That's good. Well, listen, man. I'm a Bryce as a guy that that, you know, met you four or five years ago. I'm so happy to see how far you came. And now this Saturday night again, you fighting Bobby Moffett, and that's going to be the main event in the prelims. So that's exciting this Saturday, March twenty third five PM eastern time on ESPN, plus. Is the prelims? So hey, man, hey, all my best, homey. And when you get the fight bonus. You've got money to come back. Hang out with us and train. And we'll get you in studio. Thank you so much, man. I can't wait to get back there with y'all. I promise you, I'm going to buy you know, when it's all said, and I'm gonna get up there. Again. I got love for y'all crew always support and y'all from Arkansas when y'all are fighting. I'm watching, bro. Yeah. Can't say enough. Good about show. I appreciate it Bryce, man. And I'm I'm listen. I'm so sorry. I didn't put this together. Earlier when I note that who's gonna be on a day or two God will come in. And then when I senior facing. Holy fuck. Yeah. And then when you brought it up it was like, I don't know the world's he's shot. I am. But I'm so happy for your kid. I write Bryce Mitchell. Thug nasty. Thank you. Thank you. All right, man. Good luck. Brother. Good look price. All right, man. I like that kid. It's so funny. It just because it's so easy to save old. I don't put too much on like, you know. I I see we got a few guys names. All right, man. I'll do research on that when I'm coming in and yada, yada face. And then when he brought that up I go me, and I thought that can look familiar Kim. I cried it was four or five years ago, two three or four. But yet. I mean, I'm sure there's a ton of. Sure, there's a know now that he said he lived with Allen them to his kid at us. Really? Nice kid. It's so great that he's in the you have seen and he's doing so. Well, yeah. Good for him. That's call him. Yeah. No, no, listen, we have how soon do we have who? Do we have? P bray. Before we get into our next. Call Jamie English Esa. Can I tell you about our new sponsor do do it? Can I tell you tell me I'm so excited about this? I love it. Man, manscaping manscaping. Jamie was looking me dogging me manscaping. 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That's manscaping M and S C A P E D dot com. Promo code, unfiltered, manse gaped. Hello is this Justin Willis the short is Justin. What's up, man? It's mad Sarah in which with Jamie English on UFC, unfiltered. How are you buddy? I'm great, bro. How you doing? I'm doing good, man. I am excited as I know you offer this weekend. Yeah. How we get away. Now. This is huge. This is huge for you with your fighting Curtis blades. And I liked it as I like when his little back and forth like it's not too personal. But it's enough to get me excited. Tell me you thoughts on Curtis, man. He's a bitch. Oh shit. Fuck it right out of the badging. Tell us what you really think. Yeah. That's awesome. He's what does he say? No. He's basically just saying that he's not just saying you're boring. A finer saying you personalities boring for what I'm reading what that's what I said about him. What the of my reading here what you said about him. Chris. No. It's extremely cleared. Just through. So that's what you said about Curtis that he's just boring all around the born person, man. Fuck. Fucking bed. Beta beta male now, listen is where did this. Just that you're fighting. It doesn't matter. Anybody would just get your raff will get your venom that you're spinning. Or is it he who who threw the first with this. He's he's in my scope men. That's all that matters been then he's had wait matter into their my scope in now, it's really hard to if you look at his last performance now. I mean, it's. You look at that. You could say man look at that. This guy is not that bad. But he's a bad. He is he's a tough do discourteous blades. And you want to I'm gonna put your favorites, Justin. I like both you guys like watching both you guys. But he's a very dangerous person. You know, where he wants it. Just like Francis knows where he wanted able to do with Francis to them were you don't even give shit about take him out that early don't give a shit. Now. I care about him. My hand raised the end of the fight, man. That's all that's all that matters to be now, tell me that you which such a abandoned can't man with the American kickboxing academy. Now, how did you find them? First of all. Yeah. Man. Did they find you? Actually, I found them. And I wanted to go to the toughest place with the toughest news to you know. That's how you test yourself to truly become the greatest, and you would allow eight I'll tell you you work with some studies. It has the confidence working with the likes. Daniel the champ. The champ champ, you got DC cave last. Whereas I mean, especially about me go ahead. My name that list, my friends sake. I love the confidence that Justin Willis's. I mean, listen Jamie was you'll be facing one in a row. Tell me do you know, it's eight I wanna make sure you did you forget notes. So the one the wise confidence when he's like only one fighting that was a face right in. And he's just gonna take no wonder why you were this confident so Curtis. I don't like to look past fights as a fighter are you? That guy would name already the fuck in spit out if you. You know, things go right on those that, you know, after I get to this man after I do what I need to do to get past him. Then again, then my scope will switch to somebody else. It's for for now. It's only him. That's it. That's all I'm factual. He is everything to be right now. That's it. That's all you're that guy. That puts his face up on the fridge. Aren't you? No, no, no, not at all. I just hundred percent. He gets a hundred percent of my focus se like that. I picture it like like clubber Lang juice doing crunches and just running thinking about Balboa. No, that's what I pitch on some series. Big pretty by the dole razor. What is? Tattoo to tie Taibu's to hyper to vodka two of us. Why you gotta give me a break with now now. Oh, the he's close with more conto you took out. And now he's I mean, he's talking some shit. What if that's what we do is let let him all talk. You know again. I bet this. If you watch all my previous interviews, I said one thing the man that everybody's talking about is the man who wind up making all the money in the man with the greatest legacy. So my only thing to do right now is to keep building my legacy and keep on collecting checks. That's all I can do. That's all I will do you know? So yeah, that's all. That's it man on the mission. Let let let them talk and let him talk just in just speaking of your legacy and things of that nature. I know that, you know, without unanimous decision of a mall. That's definitely going to create a Satan a image towards the way that you performed in your fights. Because that guy's not guys one of the most respected. Pfizer's to do outed feel to to compete the. So they're talking about the past again, if I would've went in there, and I would've just wrestled down. If I were to did all that kind of stuff. And it's like, that's what you're supposed to do. Right. You know against the guy like him. You know, I went in there, and I beat him at the intellectual war of striking right and dominated him. Once I figured him out. And he was he was dominated. And he in. That's what I'm after, you know, so so this guy Curtis blades can come whatever he wants to do, you know, I know his style. I seen him. I studied him. He's a wobble wrestler. He's he's not even you know, a real high level wrestler like that he just has not gonna get somebody who can defend wrestling. Right. So what I already know he's going to get wobble. And he don't try to come in for that blind double-leg, and he's gonna catch these he won't even see coming. Do you work a lot off your back? Like, one of those just in case, the, you know, worst case scenario situation, proficient everywhere, my friends, I fucking love eight name. I hear an edge in his voice. How will you the week of the fight? Are you a little like like you're ready to go out of a cannon like raise the cut wait to one fifty five? Looks volatility. Volatility even the one seventy I was I was a little I'm going to say, not irritable. Ridable? I was a little maybe rough to deal with now. I'm just a big teddy bear or a little short teddy bear. But I could be how the week of the fight, man. Are you on? Are you an easy guy to be around? Are you on edge or you just like man, I can't fucking wait till Saturday. Everybody gets love of sub Curtis. Fuck you love it. I could see intensity, and it's just making me wanna tune in even more. Can I ask you have you always been that confident Justin because it does take? I mean, there's one thing too tall, obviously. But you've of the record that speaks for itself. But it's one thing to say these things, and then as you progress, you know, you gain in confidence, and then you're able to really think about what you do. And be like, yeah, I can really do this. But you always out that or is it something that's progressed as you have as a fight that you feel like you weren't grocer name, my friend how Jamie English English. Yes. You got a research will be been I've been I've been seven years old and my life is I've been seven. So this fight right? Here is not really that big of a deal to be. It's nothing. Another thing that I have to get through to build my legacy. That's it. That's all. So a lot of these guys are walking around with their head. They between their legs nervous. I don't give a fuck, man. Yeah. It's just ties to perform point blank periods. I'm going to do my job in my job is the dumb. Nate just don't give a fuck. Clearly see that same. Your ass and do some research. Right. He just didn't know we like to get that show. We like to find out on the fly just in. We don't know as far as doing the research. We got some notes, but I like the world I like the UFC unfiltered army to hurt the know about who Justin Willis is. Exactly. That's why I wanted to. Loss as a progressive thing. And obviously, it seems like you've come from a situation if I may be feasible, but you know, two of situation you coming up for miss environment. Whatever that is that can definitely lend itself towards your personality. And then not lends itself to the kind of fight that you're going to base. Oh, I can clearly Fokkers right now me just not built the same. Right. He grew up on the porch. I grew up actually have to go through the shit. You know, so yeah, we're just not built to say, you know, now I've been around him. I've spilt his fair bones and. I forgive. Hey, man. I am. I was watching. Anyway, I was fucking watching. Anyway, just in Willis. But I am definitely watching now big pretty Komeda vent. You have seen Nashville Saturday March twenty third eight PM ESPN, plus all of us are best just in right, buddy. Good look at it. Just take take. I liked the intensity. I like the I like that he asked your name. And he wanted you to do your research. Don't tell myself. It was fucking awesome. As far as research to find out on the fly because I'm lazy. Well. Resource to find you. Find out he's from the main streets. It's like I said like his wife like it's interesting to see where people come from. Because you wanna know like what motivates pass and coming from is it is it legitimate? You know, people talk. Very convincing. I loved it. I wish they would attack me board. Oh, you're so nice. But listen I like a little bit of a little bit of spunk. Fog in big pretty has some spunk. You saintly does rice Mitchell thug. Nash, the nice. Yeah. Today's baba contrast. She's the talk about things. It's also this is a great show. I enjoyed a good time. My favorite part is when Justice Willis Justin Willis came at you. Coming in name the world knows your name out Justin Willis anyway. But he wanted gene it was like almost like just to your research man, doing doing. I listen, I can't stay mad at him. It's going to be excite picks. I excuse me. I wish I had a cough button. I fight on the main card again ESPN, plus that main card eight PM eastern, this Saturday Thompson Till's, the Thompson and Peres the minute Basie Barbara versus JJ Eldredge who we talked to Maseela. Ooh, I'm excited. Xiaomi? I like to party he likes to. Lie out. This is your phone. I completely listen to me. Did you hear what just will is gonna get your fucking head out of your ads? Teams be going thrown elbows. I know you sort of way I was walking you feel an extra confident funny to you got something completely run to didn't even he didn't even care. I do how about this. I'm not gonna argue. I was reading my fucking though. It's and I read about how he's saying he so boring, but I read grown fucking guy. Anything I said that about him. That make sense any fuck you look better than you, Jamie late. Let's be on Jimmy she'll Matt Serra. I listen. I like, I don't mind I understand I understand when when fighters get a little testy like that we the fight. I know I heard it in his voice. He didn't give a fuck it. He saying it, and that's put your to fight in the cage. It's understandable. I understand. I don't I never take your personal. I love it. I definitely don't think personal because he attacks you. Person that really attacked. You was Jim Norton as Tony Ferguson. That was pretty impressive longest time. Not like twenty. Tony Ferguson fan L cuckoo bitches. I love it. And every time I think of my manic, I made me feel on the phone. He was music, but it wasn't. It was Jimmy filthy Jimmy my little bird. All right. What do we got taking Macy baba? I figure I wanna take this. Because I don't think this JJ is going down. You know, she's in Colorado. She's held run the mountains. She's hanging out with thug rose has that rescreened in a face three in a row. She's one. She looks good decision. Macy baba. All right. I'm gonna take. I don't think Macy barber. I'm gonna go second round knockout. I don't think she's ever looking for decision. It might go that way. But she's she's a finisher. So I'm gonna go second round. Didn't you hear Randy round Rabi Brown say how many times girls knocking each other out at that way? Yes. She's I don't know. She's very easy Baba's. She might be able to do the same thing. We'll say she kicks. Listen. What do you think? Did round submission Macy. Bob. Wow. She's she's Thurgau but JJ's coming up three winds. She is she's durable. Durham might be sleeping on. Are. We might regret this. But I. She's going to do enough to get through what a Jimmy choos. He'd I'm gonna get it before. Yes. I don't know what to but she's doing something. He's little bird my, Jamie. Let's go Louis painter. Who was also on tall. He was actually Bryce Mitchell's team. I believe on tough twenty-seven and he got injured. So that that get got him out of the tournament. So but he's five and one overall he is coming off a loss to Mike Zano a split decision loss. Anyone is UFC debut by guillotine choke over Richie Smullen. And he's fighting Stephen Peterson. Peterson is coming off a split Scituate over Matt beset in his last good the upset of a beset Virga. All right. I'm going with how many Stephen Evan there in the US has to he's one in one. Loose PINA second round stoppage. Submission. Yep. Okay. I I've painted by third round set. But I think. Ooh. Yup. Jamie. I think penny, but I think go decision. All right, fair enough the violent Bob Ross. I love that. That might be the best nickname sport these cool bed. I wanna get I listen a killer match up juicy it for me and Davis Figueredo Figueredo in their their the third fight on the made cars, they're both. They're less fights. Yeah. I'm pulling it up. So I know they're both figuring undefeated UCA's coming off a win. I know that again Sergio Pettus was United win over Sergio Pederson. His last fight. He's won three straight Okazaki. Rear naked. Choke. Ben win rear, naked choke, and then Sergio Perez and figuring fifteen and oh is coming off a body punch finish of John Moraga. Does this great foot plough? I'm taking a figured aero by decision. Care. I'm gonna take this is a tough one. But I'm gonna go figure out by second round finish. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. What is right? How'd you say is named for meagre? Yeah. Forget UCA for go. Oh. Matz back. I'm gonna go for Migas second round stoppage. Yeah. This is a tough. I mean, I think this could go either way and undefeated guy kinda leads me that way, but for me has been in the top three of that division for for really long time. So all right, cool. John mcdevitt, Z and Zeus Pinedo. I'll get their their stats up right now. All right. Get the stats. He's taking his type out of the cheese. He wants some cheese. That was from the original author with the Lee more. I used to buy that. By the way, is I'm. I'm still be ready. Go through it looks like shit and people such screw this. Yeah. You could do it. He's not getting up. I do in home. Hold on it. I. As I told you what I picked pick. Yeah. So MAC Desi is on a to fight winning streak to unanimous decision wins over able to hero and Ross Pearson in his last fight and Hayes as Pineda who I believe is taking this on on shortish notice. I don't remember when he took it. But I think he's supposed to fight Nassir out for us. But anyway, he is sixteen four and one and he's on a pretty big win streak right now. One two three four six seven seven in a row, including his USC debut against Devon Powell. It was announced win. Wow. Interesting cheese. Gourmet Zeus would use tasers. Probably would as use Jesus decision though. Because you know, John is tough, dude. Yes, he has. I'm gonna go the other way, I'm gonna take Tessie by decision. That's exactly what I'm gonna guys. Okay. Okay. Maffei? Comment event time, we got Curtis blades and Justin Willis while while Kurt what about Justin Willis, man. What about just the woods not giving a shit, man? He does I don't like what he told you to go. Get your shine. Share your English. Wait, hold on. What's your name? I friend Liz reenact this. What's your name friend? Listen, jamie. You better go do your research kid. I don't think he said kid, but he's. Mike this some molested going on. Now, that's all you need to know view. Here's why. Ready? I see. That's why genius. Actually that is. Transformers as a kid. I was you rubik's cube. King Legos can. All right Curtis. Played Jolson willows. I feel that you should go for Curtis blades. 'cause I don't think I thought Justin gone a little shitty with you. Once he said, poor Jamie's opaline, and I liked it. He asked you name. The shit on you, just like. Right. What's your name? I friend, Jamie English. I'm Jay was you really do research from the fucking streets a whole. Yeah. Speckled, but fun. It was fun. Yeah. All right. Listen, I think I'm I like me some Justin Willis, I like his attitude. But Curtis blades is on the on a mission. Yep. And he's to be making people. Wishing you're saying I didn't start this in the NSA. I'm going out. I thought I got listen I'm gonna take Curtis plays. And listen he's going to be like look better than that. I'm better than what you see do. You. Remember what I did the Allers to over does anybody. Remember, anybody guess who remembers hours the Rover in remembers? Yeah. Vicious elbow from hell, I believe. Now. I know just in is ship. Downplaying I'm trying to clean up my attic. Okay. I don't want to just keep using Felli, which I believe he's downplaying Curtis's wrestling 'cause yeah, there's one thing to say. All right. Is this guys? Breslin credential credential. He's not that good a wrestler. But it's really how you put together for a may. Can I remind you that the great GSP the up you beat? I know he beat me too. But the great G is one of the best ever, Jamie, don't embarrass me. It's not about me right now, all the fame. Okay. All the fame. Thank you GSP. George CPI did not do high school wrestling. But he's one of the we didn't right. It's not. Are you pretty sure he didn't? But he's one of the best guys to get to to get that fight that floor at Charlie. John data. Her used to say, he's created the author of the chute boxe shield, the bucks like what the fuck you talking about its feet the floor, but I feed the floor. It's basically, you know, getting down. So Curtis plates. He put it really well together man, you think ours too over it was easy to put on his back. Not at all. So I believe that Curtis pleads is gonna win by second round stoppage ground and pound. I know it's crazy. I maybe I am. Maybe I'm crazy. Maybe I'm just kooky. Maybe maybe, you know. I know what I'm talking about. I'll tell you right now. Yes, Justin rule is heard this pick before we talked. He's not going to like me. Like, you may do your research. Listen, man. I know you from the streets from Long Island strong island, this people from worst neighborhoods still shocked the fucking world. You know what? I mean. Yeah. I don't know where you guys. I don't listen. I don't know where you're from. I don't know where you've been, but you're gonna be locked in the kids, and then it's gonna begin. Well, is it the same? The thing is I'm going Curtis played second round stoppage grandma found. That's what I'm saying. What about you guys? I'm gonna take I have Curtis by third round. I think it's going to end on the ground probably Kurtz only lost to two times both to Francis in Ghana. And the last one, you know, whenever he just got caught behind the year. It is what it is. So. Yeah. I mean, I'm gonna go the blades. I I just feel maybe at this oxide. That's. He's just a little more. Well rounded at this stage. We'll see and also just for the record Curtis's one takedown away from tying Cain Velasquez who's Justin's teammates decay for most take downs in the heavyweight division history with thirty four we'll see what looking at Justin Moose's face right now. I'm looking at his face. And I'm picturing him think are look at him. Look at that face. He's a I think of picturing him on the other side of that phone shaking, his head going this fucking English. Does not know my where I'm from. He obviously doesn't know him from the streets. Obviously, I don't give a fuck not me. I don't either. But I think it's that's what he's saying. He's you gene might be a hit one. This. You might have lit the fire. The fact that you did not do your research. By the just little fire. Just will is I'm gonna have to get my professional ass. Enga-? Right. Well, listen, this is this is really such an exciting fight. Because I mean, you know, Chris, the producer noticing something. I don't really say he's absolutely right. Outside. He's absolutely right. That the fact that I mean, courtesy most twice. Yeah. And he lost to a stud de just you don't want to say he has his number. But now, I mean fuck he's got the shit on pocket dollar. And you got this you don't fucking fucking speed. Dial fucked it up with pocket. Dial edit that out now. No. Jamie's nobody'll start here any pick Curtis. They're gonna go with the guy that just fucking punked you on. Filtered because I just. Fuck either say doesn't big pretty big pretty anybody has been mistake. You're nice, this weakness, you might have a little grain that being my friend. But you gotta elbows that could slice a fucking Turkey. Very intimidating. I don't know what the fuck I meant by that. Go ahead who do you pick? I'm gonna go with blades, but it's going to go the distance. Only gonna sees you gave more respect the Justin Willis than Justin Willis gave to you. That's because I'm a martial artist. Young people. Right away. I get all I'm like fucking what tagging for JV news. I listen. We did not even talk about this very exciting. One to boy. Showtime Vershow tied. I was looking for his nickname of that. Yeah. One the time wonderboy ver- Showtime. It sounds comic. Book Steven one. The boy Thompson vers Antony Showtime Pettus exciting. Can we mix it up to one the time? Versus show boy here, Jamie. What do you what do you think about that? I want to go last this on because everybody wants to know what I might buy piggies. I'm going to keep them in suspense is a five round. There's a five around mid event. This is pedestals first foray at one seventy. How he's fought obviously is low as one forty five that really wasn't a good way for him. So he's a bit. He's a lightweight going up to one seventy. Got Thompson mate? Yeah. Decision. Yeah. -sential potential TKO. Yeah. I think so too. I think I think wonderboy just. Mitigates the damage so well, he's a bigger guy. And I think it's gonna show in this fight. He's he's got a region vantage, and he's like almost nine I was gonna say possible. He's very tough guy to hit anyway. Right. So having a size advantage over Pettus who's gonna want to probably keep it, STAN. You'd think he's gonna wanna keep it standing. Yeah. I think that's the size is going to be a factor in this fight. And I think wonderboy wins at I'm actually going to go by third round stoppage. Because I think I think is has to try to come in on them Bush the base, and he'll counterpunch and maybe catch him in the third round. So I'm gonna go underway. But but. With this. It's going to be interesting. Mr. Matt Serra? Let me tell you. Tell me. The the the I got Thomson. He's got Thompson. I got Thompson. Stephen thompson. I got. Turn on picking Tom sand. I got Thompson wonder boy by fourth-round stop. Stop it. Stop it. Louis right now, I will stop. It doesn't everybody is right out. Oh, God cars yelling. Actually this. We can do a proper plug for this car this weekend. Yeah. This Saturday night marched the twenty third USC national headlined by wonderboy Thompson and Showtime Pettus. That's eight pm eastern the main card on ESPN plus prelims start at five PM eastern also on ESPN, plus to really fun card, JV English. What do you wanna plug? My good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good friend kids made. Did you hanzel Gracie academy in Manhattan while you down there, do a private listen with Johnny concrete who Johnny concrete on on Instagram chain? Why can't you to change your name the Jamie English on them from getting pressure? You should get pressure. You know, a good story with that old. Johnny concrete, ding. Oh, he's got concrete. He's it's a long story. I I'm not gonna lie wholly forgotten. How they fuck that nickname. I gave you Jamie who gave you Jane. Thank you, Jimmy English the fight. It was say it was it was you that was my that was my name and you'll phones the best thing is long to Jamie, England, Jamie English. What are you going to get somebody in the studio? You're fucking shitty podcast Jamie and call that guy, Jamie. What are you kiss? Flogging very flustered getting very fluffy gets me all up in arms because steals my shit forever. Steals my shit. All right. Listen people had to get Comores these days. Emerging now. Sample one take it off, Matt, sir. Sarabi JJ dot com. I'm gonna come up with online store. It's not ready yet though. Okay. I'm a. I'm a. Pro crested me. I said, that's so I approached that word. 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On To the Next One: Matches To Make After UFC Vegas 24

The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani

1:00:46 hr | 3 weeks ago

On To the Next One: Matches To Make After UFC Vegas 24

"You're listening to fox media network. Well hello there. Everybody and welcome to a brand new edition of on to the next one as we discussed the. What's next coming out of vegas twenty four. Which robert whitaker pick up his third straight win and he made it look easy and it looks like he has a date once again with the current middleweight. Champion israel outta sonya. When that will happen we shall see if it will happen. We shall see because it's the ufc it's like the wwf in the ninety s. Anything can happen in the world of the ultimate fighting championship. Thank you for joining us. I'm mike Just a quick warning. If you watched the bella tour card on friday and the ufc. On saturday you watched a lot of ma. And i mean a lot of it. So so many rounds a lot of decisions split decisions with the. This may not be your typical our lung. Show plus i don't have much of a voice anymore so bear with me on that but We just can't do that to you after marathon weekend but something tells me we'll be making up for next weekend after. Ufc two sixty one but joining me in this venture is the co host. The code matchmaker the best friend and the principal Himself mr alex kayla looking kind of build. You can't see that because scenario podcast. But how are you my best friend. My best friend. I i a little confused. Because i feel like can all that. Somehow you didn't mention you didn't mention something else. That happened saturday night. In the world will combat sports which honesty there was a lot of. There's a lot of people talking about it. And i was under the impression that today's show would be about matchmaking specifically for the for one young man who was victorious last night But i suppose we didn't miss it for a reason. I was gonna mention an after you know what you don't even know what i'm talking about. I'm sorry if you're going to mention it. I'm sorry. Would you like to complete your production. Yeah i mean that was. I was talking about emmet. May because this is like an matching show but of course the man with two first names knocked ben aspirin in the first round and the circus will continue on but Do you have a does name. Is jake paul jake paul. Yes good for him. Paul j. give me one second i have to google. Look this subject joseph. He has three first name. Joseph all so let's respecting the man's name. He wanted to put any restriction. This person's name but it was. I think we'll we'll discover by my Whenever the tuesday wednesday in the race and all this stuff. I mean even with estimates. I'm sure this will have drawn more viewers than Enforcing the us's biggest twenty four card. I'll say at least as far as web interest Those of us in the in the click minds mike. We'll be chasing this high for a long time. It will be. I'd believe paul To some other jackass freakshow way. Obviously i'm being. I'm being very about this. But but i i i enjoyed the whole spectacle of it. I'm not judging anyone else. Who enjoyed it i. I thought it was really interesting for what it was. I don't jake paul. I don't think i didn't even to change that. But the let's let's admit it. The event revolved around him. There's a lot of star power on their questions and bieber snoop dogg and the whole group west more but jake paul and been asking where the headliners and they did. They did a fair job of building. This up and yeah. I'm very interested in seeing with but i get it looked at. Don't worry and i'm kidding to our listeners. We're not really doing serious speaking. We've got a few reader reader chitter chatter about it only because i forced them to And we'll we'll we'll get to that later. I think it does one point five million standing too. I think so too i was. I was skeptical. I think we discussed in the one of our preview shows. I think i was like. I could see matching the tyson tyson roy jones which did an estimated one point two million. I said maybe around that actually thought a little less. But as i was watching the show i was just completely forgetting man. You'll probably would pay out of curiosity. Just see snoop dogg and ice cube and he forty and too short or justin bieber again. Things what's doja cat. I don't know like i don't care was on saturday and okay. I can kind of see why people would be in this. It's not initially my my kind of music. But for sure i understand the appeal of it and i know for like seventy dollars when i got so much. But you guys remember. We're still we're still in the pandemic. We're still in a lot of still stuck in their houses. Ten small price to pay for some from high profile live music quote unquote life. So there's a good chance across broad spectrum of interest draw well over one point two million maybe close to one and a half million range but we will find out. Do you have a matchmaking idea for jake paul before you go into the oc. Have you actually have it. Like i said i kind of just left us to the listeners. And we'll will have a couple of justice there later. I i'm a little sad. The dylan danis ship has sailed. Oh my god yeah. I feel like that's beneath them. Whatever if that ever was being seriously negotiated an dylan dance. Missed out on it. I think he really messed up because he was the perfect opponent. I think he would have drawn just as much as been ask. Hr maybe a little less. Because he's not as well known a you know even make community But he's there is something about him. I mean the fact that we haven't talked danas. The guy was what to pro fights to three to provide something and have a great but like not legendary competitive. Ju jitsu career. It's something bad has a was that that was real Aspirin and paul with a little bit of kind of have poking and prodding to get them to you. Know kinda get going at each other but But yeah no. That ship has sailed. So i don. I don't know what's next. But certainly i think we will see jake paul up to something in boxing before the end of the year and Sorry listeners where finding depending what is what is. I will say Probably going to be all over. Yeah i like the tyron woodley idea. I think that makes a lotta sense. I think that's perfect. I've they can make that happen. Great i don't i don't necessarily i am going to be there for the will trash talk and the jake paul trash-talk but just the fight itself is kind of fascinating in my in such a strange way but The dylan dana's thing. The ship has sailed. They somehow got a group of individuals to take the ship and throw it on a rocket and then the rocket took off into space. Like that thing is gone. Like and you say like dylan. Dana's missed out. I don't think he missed out at all. I the only thing he missed out on. It was getting knocked dead by jake paul in front of millions of people so a blessing in disguise. True he. he's already the highest guy in ballots. Gonna say he says it all the time and little skeptical. I'm a little skeptical. okay. I don't know i don't have the exact figure contract figures. I'm a little skeptical. Bester woodley matchup is a good idea. But i think his next opponent will not be fighter. Yeah i think it'll be someone else. i think. Either boxer or another or another celebrity boxer. Maybe someone i don't know what are the what other realms celebrities are there are there Don't even some from twitch. Maybe and then they can stream that on twitch to get in on. This actually truly wouldn't allow that was in chile at once. Once all the jake. Paul money. So i don't know but i think it won't be an he. I'll stand by my decree though that sometime in the next three years. We see one of the paul brothers. Whether it'd be. Jake logan gosh. I'm so sorry that. I know that we will see inside. The octagon seat once dana white in the bean counters over. There see how much money was made. They can't resist. They gotta get one of them in there. I i. I would be shocked if it happens at this point like why. Why do it. Why even put yourself through that. You're not gonna make the same money in the ufc. You're just not as i feel it. Feel it i gonna happen. Well look aka. We survived the weekend. All of us listening right now. We survived the weekend. We survived alaskan live better to fifty seven. But let's go ahead and give some shine to a man that absolutely deserves it. And i'm not talking about jake paul talking about mr robert whitaker because this was a masterclass for twenty five minutes because kevin gasoline probably brought his game like he looked darn good win he actually was able to mount some kind of offense but that man is as tough as they come. He took a beating and he kept coming forward and getting in robert whittaker's face but if whitaker wasn't gonna get a finish. This was as good as he could have done it. And i've a feeling we're in the same boat here. This is pretty obvious. And i think dana white sort of tested to that on saturday night as well we are. We can say we are officially on the road to on your whitaker to for the middleweight title. You're not yes. Yes it's just makes so much sense. I mean whitaker call for it after he made of course we. Have you know somewhere in the region. Australia and new zealand where they have a much better grasp of the On the covid nineteen situation it will it would take some. It'd be a little bit tricky because Yes i think. I think primarily of course we want to rely on having fighters from new zealand. Australia would make things a lot easier. I would even recommend having a like to accommodate that not worrying about having like a ten fight. Eleven fight fight card. I would if it has to be like an eight fight card with just guys oceanic region gopher and again signed new guys a lot of promotions out. There treat it like you would like an old school boxing card. What is really just about the top guys. Because i think they'd be driving. Eighty five ninety percent of the pay per view buys. It doesn't matter who you put on the undercard and you could probably have again. There's so many good australian fighters you could probably have a good fairly decent like main card as well so hopefully they don't over think it get a little creative here with other book this and just focus on making making sure that that fight happens because yes i wanted this for a long time I honestly for me. I only need to see him win. One more time to get rematch. I know The first fight for a lot people is like aw he got. He got beaten and such definitive fashion. What is there to see again as guys rematch is often go quite differently than the first one we know. I absolutely believe that. That wasn't whitaker's best day. I think he was way too aggressive. He's spoken about of course being burnt out around that time and haven't seen a lot. Since how can you not. How can that not have the theory not have any credence right so When he beat. Till i was like let's send him. I knew it wasn't going to happen. But i was like i think you could set that rematch kind of near. I was for sure i was. That's when i started thinking it was going to have served. That people were saying it's still like do we really need to see the plate again so If there was any daughters. And i'm sure there was there was less Going into saturday's main events. There's any daughters over three straight wins top Top ten guys convincing victories over all three of them Let's let's get this rematch going police. If there was one guy who might have argued against this it would have been marvin vittori but even if you watch the broadcast camera panning tomorrow inventory after they announce the decision and even marvin maturities face told the entire story like he knew he knew he lost like the chances of getting the next title. Shot gun after that performance so the title fight is the way to go. I'm excited for it. I'm fascinated by it because this version of robert whitaker is better than the version that won the title in the first place. So this is an interesting fight. I think he can take a lot from. What yom behoves did against you ought to sonya he is able to use wrestling and that top game is super heavy. Gas could even move at times. When would is on top especially in that fifth round. So that's a really interesting fight. That is unequivocally the way to go and -gratulations to robert whitaker. It's funny how darren tell was the biggest winner coming out of the vittori holland card. And he's probably the biggest loser here. Because i still believed even with a whitaker decision when he was gonna the next title shot but this is just too good. This is not a guy that was like point fighting his way to win. This is the guy that was looking to finish every single second of that fight gasol emissions so tough so profitable guys would occur should be fighting for the next and for gasoline. May this is kind of tough because pretty much the entire division especially in the top fifteen. They'll fights but now so He's probably going to have to wait until some of these play out. But my pick the winner of the upcoming fight on may first between strickland in chris. Stop jaakko gastric strickland's strickland's top fifteen guy. I favor him to win. That fight if he does. You can do strickland versus gasoline. That's interesting because a lot of people have their eyes on strickland's they like to see him and and see what happens from there. Or if kevin hans as one eighty five dowell made a lot of sense to what say you well. It's funny you say that. Because if kevin hall says one eighty five i want him to get the strickland jaakko winner. That's why maybe. Maybe i think i think i think that more before. He did the quick turnaround. That was be more after the brunson fight now that he's suffered two straight. Maybe we'll get the loser of that by either way. I think we will. We've also wants to bite strickland. Both guys talk lot inside the cajun and an empty apex environment. Should they go that route. I mean it out of the sound bites would just be wild so we want to say that. But i'm like you. I had to look upcoming matchups. There's just isn't anyone and he looks at any any type of dean name. That's really free. But i actually went a little bit lower i. I'm kind of wondering. Is it time for gasoline to get. Who does he. He just be in high sch- highness right. Yeah so. I think maybe back to that range a little bit. Maybe just outside the top team. So i had a bunch of options here. I pretty much just went with the one. That's closest Which is this week. I i thought he'd be interesting to see him. Fight the brennan. Alan carl carl roberson winner. Obviously that flight would maybe be a little bit more appealing to allen. Orson it'd be their chance to kind of step up to the dean. But i think they've earned it. I think whoever wins that fight if they do an impressive fashionable of earned it. So i'm down for that otherwise again looked ahead and edmund shabazz ian if he beats on may fifteenth Tom breeze antonio royal winner. That's june fifth now. We're getting pretty far and then made a brat vars winner. That's july ten so really all. These are options have been how long gasoline lamont's down on the on the bench. If he wants to come back quickly. He has an option from this weekend. He has got you just mentioned if he wants to wait a bit then he can wait for those some of those names to kind of get shuffled there. I thought about shabazz in like if he loses to jacker manson. I'm okay with that idea of doing shabazz versus gasoline. But if he'd be but if you beat jack hermansson he's like by the time the rankings. Come out on tuesday okay if shabazz was. He'll probably like four spots ahead of gasol math math hermansson v-gas lemon and shabazz. Envy streak leapfrog if he loses though. It's weird though. It's like i remember. I'm of the will of the camp that i was like. I didn't love the shabazz ian. I mean i'm warming up to it now. But i still would have liked to have seen again kind of take a step back after after Losing to Helped me michael Derek brunson has to run I kinda wanna see you take a step back and herenton like sitting in the rankings is actually a step forward and maybe stylistically. They think it's a better match. I'm not sure so. I don't know if he loses actually don't want again. I want him to get that mix with the. Tom breeze. arroyo is made up of ours guys. So but we'll cross that bridge on onto the next one on the may may sixteenth addition. There you go and whitaker. I think whitaker just did all of us a favor by making by clarifying. This middleweight division that performance. Because now we don't really have a logjam. We could just go in there. Have that fight. And then the rest work itself out we we. We're looking forward to some Some fun matchups. That's for sure but let's look injuries and weird stuff happened vittori on call. He's he's just. I'd say number one of the shortlist. He's a number one replacement option. So don't be fingers crossed we get Out of sonya and whitaker too. But you really. We don't know these days what happened. So yeah the doors you end up fighting either. 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This episode is brought to you by mortal combat. Are you ready to fight. On april twenty third. Don't miss the action of vin of the year. When mortal combat the worldwide phenomenon comes to live mortal combat is in theaters and on. Hbo max april twenty third radar under seventeen minute without pairing present looks to the coal made event because andrea lofty. Who was the betting underdog for like the seventeenth consecutive. Fai which is just bananas to think about. And from what i understand. I looked at it yesterday afternoon. Are laskey was the favourite like hours leading into the fight and then by the time the the window closed. Sherman was the slight favourite so the street continues but are lobski goes through. He gets back in the win column and my hat goes off to the pit bull because without that victory i would have lost our pimm our little. Pick him lee yesterday. But are you only wanted to take them. I was the only one in philosophy tied for the record we tied with you and i tied with seven six each. You won on points because you did have one perfect year. A bear shirt for so according to the quality dot com point system. You beat me by thirty points but we are technically we tied. Let's we. But i hate ties so i rather rather lose. Their lobski. picks up a beautiful unanimous decision. Win against chase chairman. It was It was an interesting fight. It was better than i thought it was going to be. A lot of people thought. Germans are going to go in there in an inaugural upscale in the first round. It was very close to happening but a aka going to begin with you here because it is safe to say. I would guess that. It's either another longtime veteran of the sport to fighter lobski or a fight there. Were just not going to be happy to say into a live. Microphone right now. So where does the pit. The pit bull. Go from that victory on saturday. I don't know i had two options. I i definitely went. The young gunner route definitely went. The heavyweight division is changing rapidly in front of us we had. We've had a bunch of names kind of enter the top fifteen bowls because of their success and also because of some of their names. Getting you know getting getting the axe. So i went with. I went with a man that we saw action last night. I i did it. I went Alexander romanov give alexander romanov our laskey It's roman. I've had his own Adventurous evening to put it again Honest no it was probably not a victory. He's going to champion and crow about anytime soon and probably And for the ending. Certainly like to forget Hopefully he's not he's probably hopefully he's not feeling it today but But he is three on the he does look. He's does really still look like a top heavy guy. Prospect future challenger and alaska is one of those guys. You gotta go through very very tough match-up he. He he really exposes you as exposed what you are so let's see romanov is. Let's put him in there with pit bull and the pit bull. Excuse me and Let's make just pull the trigger. Let's go yeah. I mean there's two options here You kind of said my one a so but they're not going to go at this other option. My one b was alexi olympic. Because that would make so much sense. But we're not. In the business of making sense ak so i i will go if we go to check the tapes after our laskey. Defeated tanner buzzer. I said he's gonna fight a killer. He's going to have to fight a guy who also go to win on saturday. I wasn't happy saying it. Then givers alexander romanov. But i were here. I hate to say this is what's happening. Romanoff is a killer and you know. Our lobski has thwarted prospects many of time in his career. But i have a feeling this could be a type of situation where roman office belly to belly suplex in our lives. All over that octagon and it's just not watch no one's met at no one's really done there. I i should. i should look this up for. No one's really but someone something tells me something tells me that alexander romanov is not going to be like taken back from the moment biting andrea lousy. Like you could tell tanner buzzer. Was like okay like this is pretty cool like i'm fighting the former. Ufc heavyweight champion of the world. You could tell he kinda got lost in at a little bit. Romanov's knocking to think that way at all at least i don't think you will but it's an interesting fight. I would highly favor romanoff to do bad things in there but you never know. We've said that many times before the pit bull going to be the underdog again. How do you feel about the dramatic. Your that how do you feel about Surge as spivak sort of the same. Same range for any preference either way. I'm romanoff's be back. I'm fine with that. I don't know i. I like it. I'd like to see that fight. I think either would be fine. Like i just went romanoff because we're we just saw flight and they're on the card so you know their timelines probably can't be too different but And then my other activists be back. And i'm like it's kind of the same same idea so either one but romanov would be if i if i had to choose i robot. Yeah it's either. Based on the betting lines are lobski gets knocked out viciously or he gets submitted. And it's a little more calming like he gets choked and it's fine but to be back would probably be in a position. Knock him up. We'll say good win for a lofty happy to see it And it is what it is former heavyweight champion back in the winning ways. Looks like he will live to fight another day in the ufc. One man who may not be living to fight another day in the afc is one abdul razaka hassan. He loses to jacob. Mao kun i believe is the biggest favourite on the card. I would be shocked if he wasn't but you have to imagine this'll be the end of the line for abdul but malcolm gets his first. Ufc win after. Getting brutally knocked out by phil hawes and a matter of seconds you have see debut in october ak you can insert pretty much any mid to lower ranked eighty five or in here like i wasn't expecting to match make for jacob malcolm hair. This is a notice respect to him. Just everyone kind of looked to this fight. As this'll be allison's opportunity to get a quick knockout get back back on track a new class Jacob coon versus jordan. Williams seems perfect to me like in terms of experience. It makes sense you know. Williams is coming off his first. You have las. He had a tough. I would nasty. I'm bob I think this is a good match. It makes sense. What do you think. Yeah i love it. Williams also had a knockout win that was overturned getting journalists confers with june tanzanian newson. Es children so does not have. You didn't have a win over turned my crazy. He's probably a contender series overturned. Right right okay. Okay joe joe. Journey newsom was one who had a tiki who had a knock exciting knockout of the over. And he's also contenders series guy. Okay apologies to journey and jordan. I forgetting that mixed up Yeah no a great matchup. Yeah i have the like you said the kind of have them that same range I i wanna say i Your al-hassan was a three to one favorite. But he was actually. There was a big favorite. Toni gravelly was the was the biggest favorite he closed almost minus four hundred and that baird itself out and so no criticisms of for the oddsmakers. There i think as you said we will see. This is a loss of hassan. He was moving to new way class. Not doing it just because of the timing or or if you know i've just getting some sort of fresh start but i did not work out for him unfortunately and that's true straight loss But melkunian. I went with jordan right versus jamie. Picket winner may fifteen. I don't know my last because kind of like within the gasoline section earlier. When i was looking ahead of of malcolm trying to match them up with someone ahead of him in my my mystery rankings. A lot of those names are up as well. A lot of middle as tied up. Not just the top twenty but I saw the middle of the pack as well. So i had to go that otherwise roman coppola love another guy who is looking for his first year who i think is better than his You know he lost his debut. I think he's better than that shows. But so yeah and then roman coppola. I haven't that all in one. Promising owen one guy range with jordan williams and a few other names so yeah well mike you know we discussed this before like just because of guys were thrown on. The main card does not necessarily make them main card fighters if that sounds if that's fair to say again with respect to jacob who who clearly won that fight and good for him getting in the wind call up but he's what four five and one six six seven flight and we're supposed to match him up the same way we would someone like a komeda event of a paper like. That's so strange right so so i don't know i almost like look at the names that were on the. We'll get to the wildcards later but look at some of the names they're on the prelims like Romanov just penny jaromir shirt gravelly. Like these are more veteran. I well no names than jacob malcolm because my kun was arbitrarily paced place in the main card. We have to match make for right. But i don't know again. No disrespected jacomb owen. I think we have to spend alley. I probably have. i listen. this show is called. we are match. We are putting ourselves in the position of matchmakers. There's a reason jacomb out. Coon fought phil hawes in his debut. Because we kind of knew what was going to happen. And there's a reason that jacob was matched matchup against dura razaka hussan. And there's a reason why this fight was on the main card. Because people thought i was gonna go in there and blister him in the first minute of the fight but jacomb coon had other options other plans. And i stand corrected. He did climb to five in one. So you are. You are correct. So i congratulate welcome yes good victory now no more disrespect when another fight and then we're going to start taking this matchmaking. Like extra serious. But let's head to. Tracy cortez aka. She remains undefeated in the ufc. Tough fight her. Flyway debut against justin quiche. Wins the split decision and tracy cortes. Is someone a lot of people are are very excited about ak. So where does she go from saturday. Night my best friend in a very interesting hundred twenty five pound division far. Stop a little finger. Shame to tracy cortez for missing weight. She did come in a half-pound over this was her first. Flyweight fight in the siege game and a half pound over the flyweight limit. I'm not mad. I'm just disappointed So but otherwise yes. Get good performance by her You know just in case you. I think is one of the toughest outs. I know Whatever she doesn't have the greatest record. I know you know people don't view her as a contender man. You get matched up with her. You're gonna be. You're going to be in for a tough fight. That's just how it is uncertain tracy during the got one of those on Saturday night so i. I'll not sure with someone who i wanted. Miranda maverick deflate. Boom rand maverick. Now is getting of course may see barbara july twenty four. So this person's free now is cortez and jj aldrich. I didn't aim too far high at the rankings As seen the listener suggestions later there's some people were going like tough dean. The bottom part of the top of dean I'm not there yet. i'm not there yet. So give me tracy. Cortez and jj aldrich. This is pretty easy for me k. And i don't know if you're going to be too thrilled with what i say here but probably not this. What makes a lot of sense for a number of reasons one because it could be you can main card this fight on a fight night. Maybe even on pay per view if you need it. I liked the matching trace. Cortez jillian robertson aka like we need. We need a test. her. And i'm not saying like any of the opponents. She fought like aren't tests. But we need somebody that's like just outside the top fifty and like i like when tracy cortez one her last fight at one thirty five. I wanted her to fight julia. Ottawa like that was the the piece of business i wanted. Jillian robertson makes sense in terms of up and coming flyweights. I don't know if anyone has been tested more than julian. Robertson has so i think like in terms of experiencing growth and fighting someone. Who's got those legs that's my pick. I like it. I want to see what traces got. And i i wanna see what jillions got to. I mean she's had some tough matchups over the last year year and a half or so. This could be an interesting ties if she goes out there and beat tracy cortez she's right back in the mix in the top fifteen so i like that one. I think that's the way to go. Yeah i shied away from that one. Because i you know i i just hate labeling Jillian sort of like a a litmus test this still young. We're having ten ten years fights for somebody so young but but really the flyweight division. The women's fleischer's the oc. I think he's a little underrated. Just be just because everyone's like. Oh well this person couldn't beat volunteer and so anytime you kind of. Tell someone in the flower to can they beat. Valentina can beat valentina. it's like okay. If you're measuring sticks valentinus janko nobody one. Twenty five good fine But otherwise it is a pretty competitive division. So i don't know so yeah there really is no like easy fight for jillian. It's for me to say like. Oh i wish dylan robertson. Easy fight in her next one. There's not that many options for her. That aren't like so far. Down the rankings. It's not worth your time. So i understand the cortez thing but anything. I'm kind of like wanna punish cortez for the wait miss and i don't know she deserves to fight a veteran opponent alamos but like her next way. She has approved to make one twenty five. I think before getting more veteran name so Nothing yeah. Aldridge is not a super veteran name. I don't eighth place in the. Afc this quite a bit but either way it did different different level competition again. There's there's no easy fights so yeah. I don't know i don't i don't want to reward her with robertson. Robert should get someone else. And i think we keep her in the aldrich range kind of twenty five to thirty five range in the women's flyweight division. I don't know maybe. I'm over the maybe it wouldn't be a reward belly. K maybe get some it in the first round or something. and then it would be a punishment. In the long run robertson's dangerous to share his Let us know. Head to the victorious. Violence bob ross lewis pain. Yes but decision went over. Alex munoz needed that win for shore. One fifty five is loaded. This isn't the same problem as jacob balchunas. But we're kind of in that same range where you can insert a lot of different names and it's not wrong so just a fight. I want to see a fan. I'd like to see louise. Painting versus roosevelt roberts aka. I think they're both interesting spots in their careers. I'm in let's do it. There's literally like twenty people mexican lightweights one of the deepest division. Ufc and you have no shortage of options. I was listening to suggestions it. Also i kept hasn't scott hasn't he. Actually what is he now. He's now Where where's where's my luis painting notes. He's now a four five hundred five hundred eight years so he feels like he's been around for a long time but he's just not not as not as much as i thought so. Yeah a lot of fresh matchups. I'm going to go back to my names. That were freed up list. 'cause i wanted. I wanted this guy to fight. Christos iago's but now Iago says getting jaw alvarez so jamie malarkey is now free backwards and i'd like jane malarkey and pena. I think it'd be a fun fight just again. Good matchup good test for pain. Yeah i know again. Pena's got so many good hook somebody marketable hoax. I know that you've seen fans would love to see this guy going a nice streak and just really take off but again we kinda testing who is. So he's he's he's he's really young in the game still so jay milwaukee matching fund fighting that contender. That's it can't go wrong. That'll be fun as we head to the wild card round aka. We're going to match up one fighter. We have not matched for yet. And we will Go ahead and do that. Right now. So ak indulges if you would your wildcard selection for you have vegas twenty four. I went with the veteran. Just penny you know i. i understand. She's had a run ins with the usa. But a lot of fighters have and the circumstances have always been comprehensible To to be honest. And i'm not i'm not absolving. Her of her you saw issues. I'm just saying there's very likely more more than meets the eye when it comes to her to her to suspensions very rare very rare For a lot of uc fighters to get that second suspension but she got one and almost got four year suspension But it was reduced to twenty months however she ended up not fighting for like four years. Anyway so i don't know it somehow. Somehow it all worked out for the usa punishment side. But i think i'd like to go with someone a little bit in her. Age range Someone maybe not quite as experiences but definitely a test. So i'm going just a penny and jinyu right. I think i'd like to see. I think it'd be interesting fight. And i just like to see these two veterans throwdown before i got. I don't know how much how much they plan to compete. How many more years of planning pete. I just think it'd be a cool flight to see Before all send on so penny fry. Let's let's do it. That's that's an interesting piece of business right there. Although i thought poor old lu begun anez gotta got the. I got the job that she got the hoes job from the from the judge. But it's okay. It was close by cook gone either way. But despite the loss ak and i know. I know what people are thinking right now. They they already have it. They got their finger on the pulse. Someone actually tweeted out last night breaking news. Mike heck's going to do the wildcard pick for twenty gravelly. There's no doubt about it per sources common per sources. I was dying laughing. Dj in the wedding. When i saw that. But i know now is false. Report is not wholly accurate. At this time. I'm going despite a loss. I'm going with wanna spinola k. Only because i want to see this man fight as often as possible. I like watching. that first. round was banana as the great pat. patterson God rest his soul recipes. Pat patterson say that that that that first one was banana ended in unfortun- away. You know we mentioned differ matchmaking. Ideas for andrea lobski. I think it's beano is a legit talents. That can give a lot of guys in the heavyweight division problems. What a fine fight it would be to see. Wanna spin versus alexio. Lennick scrambles the work on the matt. I'm in that's the fight. I wanna see. So if they don't do our life skill in which i don't think they will spinola. Nick checks off all the boxes. I'm going with that. So i don't have to pick another bantamweight up and comer as far as we know and by the way twenty gravel you can match up again just so anyone who watched that i mean the check was was entertaining So like and they blow and maybe it was. I mean it was but it was a nice showcase by grab. That are so fun so you can match them up with anyone. As far as we know the olympic he is. I mean there was a little bit of the i remember. There was some rumors that he was released when the when the over release happened. But as far as we know we have everything on that front right. He don't think so. Yeah okay. I just i. I don't know if it was It was actual rumors like again. The sources said that. You're going to pick tony gravelly or Or if it was just wondering because he was kind of in that same veteran age rain status that people were like oh no must be next and that turned into balls that flaming rumors of a what a wonderful metaphor that that people just picked up on. So yeah i don't think so. I don't remember anything being released. Yeah he's not really because he's mentioned a lot in on the show. Yes he's a favorite. He's definitely a favorite of ours. Do we have a check. The take a very quick one because we had to tunnel fights that were one which people said was very liquid happened in which people really wanted to happen. So we got Amanda nunez versus julianna. Pena have see two sixty five august seventh. It's not like exactly clamoring for but after painters win and her her call out. I think a lot of said you know what she might get it and and who knows if she has a chance of beating her but she's certainly. I think her accomplishments are there. She's done the work on the mike to To sell the fight already at now it's official. So that was really everyone was kind of talking about and then also of course youngbleaux hobart's thank goodness mehovic Facing global share the rightful number one contender at two hundred five pounds. We've been calling for this one for. I don't even know how long i think even before To share his latest win. After after it's been before that. I think we said he should be should get phone with the whole bit. So you'll see to six september fourth but other than that. No nothing specific. Not crazy No crazy calls from listeners. All right we will I'll go through the dm's real quick. I didn't get a ton of them. But i got some so run through those and they'll go to the rest of the peeps. Patrick austin basis said abdul is probably going to be cut fair statement And you said tony gravely versus andre. You'll is his pick interesting piece of business. Right there jack porter said roman versus dano or park reporter and then he went with our lobski verses olympic And he said one. More bonus not from this card. Shafqat munaf versus cass williams. Just because i need to see these guys fight again. Rock off was booked if memory serves me correctly but a look at that. A little bit while shawn bradley. J. paul versus to vima lopez as a former wrestler hate to see aspirin lose. Let's get a real boxer. Wow how biggest tiffy mo- anything boxing I'm i don't think he's one hundred ninety pounds. Let me look this up real quick. I'm not sure. I don't think he's under ninety. I think he's yeah. I pretty sure he's more we move ahead poppy. Underscore brian's request for you ak oh he said we need a robbery review penny versus golden as she beat penney up for just about the entire fight. I have to watch it closely. I i i think people who the post yesterday. I was doing a lot of the paul aspirin coverage so i definitely had both screens going but not at the point where i could make a strong either way i did see the power bomb and when you when you jack knifed powerbombed. Someone like kevin nash. You should automatically get this really. They should have waived the fight off credit depending for hanging in there after taking that the big bucks. That's not the cleanest back bump. I've ever seen michael basketball. They teach you investing school. That's how you get a stinger brother So yeah i. I'm gonna take a look at this closer look at his car and who knows. Maybe bessie robbery and and do robbery view this week. Maybe a couple with a lot of decision. Four four hundred two more zach andrews whitaker versus he of course andrea lapsky versus carlos. Felipe interesting coon versus his ref. Because there's no clue to do this. Man zack said tracy cortez versa. Jillian robertson or julia ovulate. Depending on weight class believe julia bula and julius still. Your ranko is being revoked for june. Twenty sixth least. That's what i'm i've been told. I don't know this is breaking news or not but there you go it as alleluia Wild carp mir shot versus anthony hernandez i know her end is his book during now so fernandez wins could be an option. That'd be an interesting fight. And then tony gravely versus nate minus don for that They never fought before before. Now someone replies replace. Somebody might main supposed to maintenance was opposed by gravely on this card. Okay thank you. that's i've done. It sounds so familiar. Okay last one. Evan rodriguez agrees. I would grind sonya. This one's obvious bobby knuckles. Deserve shot. orlowski versus felipe. j. collier winner expert philippe to win this fight. Carlson great prospect to match with our lobski Jacob malcolm versus dustin stoltzfus cortez versus jillian robertson. Pick louis painter versus jalen. Turner fund scrap has the potential Romanoff versus sergei spivak was the other pick so Thank you to all the irs pain versus turner one of those. I can't believe these guys. Are lightweight fights like you see. This is like this is too small too skinny middleweights or something. Oh my gosh so late. With what how what So tiffy mellow pads. So lightweight people in boxing by the way is one thirty to one thirty five so he'd be giving up a lot decisive paul. Now i was still fema lopez. Dj paul's if If we're being honest but it would be. It would be tough to find a commission that would that would authorize one. But i don't know a stranger things have happened but yeah i think regardless of the way tiffy would would work but again they are. There are way us for reason. Unfortunately i don't. I don't know if you'd get to Get made when we got. Hey what are we go okay. Well i'm gonna try to overlap with you too much mike. 'cause i've someone's you mentioned was a mere shirt under sanchez. I saw some people say so. If i repeat myself lots going to like So the seniors. The ones that were suggested by one or more to more listeners. addison asante whitaker. Deputy obviously the most universal pick. Everyone's just like just get it over with this needs to happen so i just wanted to Gasoline for solid definitely popular option. That was other when it came up. Our loss people are all over the place. they want. orlowski Even of our lachey romanov orlowski spitak and a couple of people are lawsti alexander. Gustafsson i thought of that one too going exactly. China is even going to fight again as he dropped down to a five. We don't know he may have to be put on the banned list Not a his fault but like fighters who are injured fighters. Who are you know that we know are going to be out for a long time. We may have to just not mentioned these options anymore until they book a flight breath. Mitchell's on that list now. louise thing monty smith. I like malcolm malcolm this. Is this one little times malcolm and and doron win. So some some buckled win beefier. That i'm not aware of it. They just in that range. I don't know so. Here's here's something interesting. I did want to talk about this. I haven't had a chance to respond to this. Are you kidding me. This malcolm and win thing actually triggered some sort of story. The doron drawn win has triggered something. Okay so we reported on. Friday that phil hawes is fighting kyle. Dacas on may eighth. I believe yes. We did so. We reported that doron win hopped on twitter immediately after unquote tweeted that report and said i was signed to fight. Fill hawes on july seventeenth so this was in the works. He's taking this other fight. Fill haas clue. Doesn't wanna fight me anymore. So i of course followed up with some sources about this and apparently doron win is telling the truth. Villas has signed to fight. Both of these gentlemen things happened to change. It's a fluid situation right now but in an ideal world and i know we've tried to do this before and it hasn't worked out yet. An ideal world phil hawes will fight kyle dacas and then turn around two months later and fight doron win. He has signed contracts or both apparently. From what i've been told he signed a fight. Doron win i and after kyle. Dhaka's lost his fight earlier this month. The you have c. Approached him like the next day and said hey you wanna fight dacas on may eighth. And he said okay. I'll do that. And then the contracts were signed like earlier this past week. So there you go. I heard on wednesday and like. Oh yeah i meant to talk about this tweet about it and i never had a chance to so. We're all dress it on the show. That fight is apparently the plan to happen as well. It's not a fight like you can actually like report and say. Hey it's definitely happening because houses fighting somebody else two months earlier. You don't know what's going to happen in a fight. But if all goes well in a perfect world phil house will fight twice in two months against and then doron win look at that. No exclusive and people in our on may find dot com comments. there's always to say. Why don't you write to show down like why are you guys recording shows like guys. You don't get those kinds of tidbits write this down. That's not getting mentioned. So so i don't even know who i'm talking to you because again those but i'm pushing this the very good reasons why we record the show because moments like that. So yeah you. You only get that kind of stuff on the pod in podcast for alexander romanov of romanov olympic that mere shirt and more adopt mahmoud muradov so that was a popular one and and there's a lot of tony. Yeah there's a lot of gravity is the i saw them a gravely gravely a lotta tony gravely for the one i saw more than once greatly versus louis smoker. We've matched up smoke a quite a few times on this on this show. I think there are better match ups for smoker than than tony gravely but couple be wanted it so there we go. I only have one email. So far i should tell you. We are recording this episode a little bit earlier than usual but still my email. Boys think they were a little too high on the paul asterix as many of us were. I'm not blaming them. And show look like you said the back in full force after our next perfume. Coming up but Harry dwoskin only who made the deadline cut. He likes greb. Lieber smiles john's austin hubbard for smirke Mere shared versus mark on about he'll and You mentioned this. A maku versus dustin stoltzfus. So they go. There's some buzz from alcon. Stoltzfus as well mel. Kuni again. Good for him man getting on that main car and getting talk mattress firm. That's that's always. That's always a good place to be in on instagram. We had some good messages. So i do want to read out the entirety in their entirety but quick hits here Dylan's shoot he. He first thing he said. Was jake paul versus aspirin rematch in wrestling. I don't think it's going to happen. But it would only be fair wouldn't it. Yes just world. Mike and i think jake has said he would do it but obviously is not going to like that was just part of the prefight Preflight family. you will not these two men's share at rain or matt or cage ever again. That's just for a photo. Shoot or something Calvin gas lem. He wants to come winner of chris. Wideman and your riot hall. Of course either those would be a rematch though you're hall probably a little more interesting a rematch. Of course it'd be from the ultimate fighter finale that Gasoline won by very close split decision. And wideman i think a little more definitively wyman beat him. I don't think there's much heat there but you're right hall shorter what else. Let's move on this other one. He mentioned a metaphor. We have a new listener. I always liked to mentioned listeners. Contributing this from jesse. It's another ozzy. Australian vance malcolm versus mackey. Potolo it makes looked. I believe oh you know what you mentioned you. Mustn't i thought i looked it up. I don't know it's a room fish. Show he's fighting door rich. Abloh is my door rich. Okay well you know. What if he beats the door rich actually win or lose. we're lewis. I think it's a good metric for malcolm. So i'm gonna give you some some props for that match. I still like it. So whatever houses potato and to orage on june fifth I think it's fine. I think that's a good choice. Yeah matt bradbury coming in with some of the best jetsons. I think he said J. fall damian. Maya received their. I see what you did there. Yeah austin hubbard versus michael johnson. I have to read this one. Because he he went to great deals. Hubbard always seems to lose whenever he isn't facing a newcomer johnson's on skid. This is kinda loser. Leaves town match in my opinion. It'll show of johnston. Nash wins together or he just doesn't use the calendar anymore. It'll see of hubbard Can actually beat higher level competitions so good. Good logical reasoning there. What did they this matchup. Mike mere shirt versus julian. Marquette's i like it. Why like it so much. Because i think you could like you could build that entire fight doing interviews with both of those guys at the same time. It would be like awesome because both those like it'd be it'd be so respectful but it would be like kinda goofy like i could see jaromir mayor shop bussing out the saxophone and marquez like singing a song like the they'll just play like one bourbon. One shot one beer. Like just put little duet. It'd be amazing. i'd love to see it. I'm sold bill. I'd love it for like a ufc on ab abc. Three or something like home in event. Yes maine i would love it and then just give really really kinda show people at different side of the bite hype. That's something that you can do. More of those are definitely the two guys to do it. I love it. That's a great thing. that'd be good I he mentioned fried. I wanna i mentioned this because he did something. I you and i don't do and most listeners don't do he said he went like pick the he made up a fight and then already matched up the winner of that hypothetical fight so policy vinegars fry. He's a veteran veteran. And he says and the winner of that should base core mckenna. And i'm like wow. I don't even know if i like that matchup like it's cool. Is that matt bradbury's looking that far ahead. So that's fun Cheesy cortez he wants to give a pretty big step up Majaeda naida silva and then he wants the panthers john mcdevitt because let's have an desi face another six foot. Three guy didn't get a fight of the night from that We've technically we did technically. We didn't because the massive dude that mcduffie last time bahamonde doesn't foresee missed weight but yes. That was the real fight of the night last week. Let's be honest Literally just for you know again. My favorite user. that's phenomenal. it's so good. I have to intro. He said what. Mr lee hope you enjoyed the show. That was this weekend fights. He did not say. Sim censoring here. First of all. Let's deal with the in the room. I think jake. Paul should play Just kidding i don't give an odd fights your did he say he did not see himself as a family show so he went The ones that really gets me. Gravely jack shore things really good. He says book penny handy. Third time's a charm romanov verses winner of chamois. Dr augusto sokai. He atman. that'd be that'd be either so dark humor name would be really good and then I got one of our more popular names on these days. And mike davis they are training partners. I believe i believe they're both at att. Did not know that well they well. I'm glad i brought it up. Because i thought it was cool matchup. I'm sure somebody thought about it but unlikely to happen. Okay josh abaci was to hear from him. I think he's my favorite is. This is just the make. Grant dawson mad. Matchup austin hubbard klaipeda. Look it is gonna fight somebody grand. Don might not be so. I'm just out there listening. I'm just saying you see someone else who didn't get that match. I'm sorry and will end with twitter this week All right a lot of here. I don't wanna read them all off. Starting of course thank you for your is always everyone. But we're going to pick some here. Markham's gay he cortez versus tyler. Santos another big jump up. I didn't really care for that weight mess. Apparently or like you said it's the opposite. Did care about the weight missing one. Think like well guess what needs to she can get roughed up in an ex by romanov versus ben rothwell philippe lynn's winner on may eighth. He said this fight should have gone to a know. they did. My boy dirty and battle of veterans. I'd like see this. One mir shared versus ah cummings partners. Anything no response in house before. I don't know. I have no idea. I have no idea. I swear it's my mind having mandela by now. I stink leave. Remember the phone calls happening. But it has not happened Barra riley our man in ireland penny versus kane'ohe shore pinon versus man. As ataur. i dunno for. I don't know if i'm ready to do that yet. Cortes versus molly. Mccann's shore mama candidates someone from anybody and then that's that's a good fight that makes sense. That's a good. We thought we were almost done guy every time but i do like this matchup. Actually gasoline versus shemaya. I really like it. And he says An established name who showed against heinisch that he has some wrestling chops. The only thing is we've kind of said previously we. We just want to get healthy and and fight when he's ready but on paper. I actually really liked that. If he decides to fight one. Eighty five cortes. Mcken is like the exact middle ground of our two selections in my opinion. Like you said. Cortez aldridge i said cortez robertson. I feel like mccann is like a perfect compromise between the two and then to salt pick bear. Rally pick at drag. Chris at dragon slayer on twitter. Two picks mere shirt versus puna. Soriano sure i like it. But then i said i said i prompted the prompted this person project profit and they came up with jake. Paul julian lane just let him bang guys and you know very very quick responses very quick to it was right after so quick. Response great choice. Thank you dragon slayer to michael. Parachini did not meant. We mentioned gasoline brenston. I don't think so. I think runs a little past. Four five wins his head. He's headed the rankings. Gasoline probably still the slightly bigger name. But i think brian brunson would say no. But i think it's a dangerous tough fight for him that he doesn't have to take out brunson's like arguably a win away from title shot right so yeah. I don't know if that makes sense. He's michael perugini's backing you up. Cortes robertson definitely likes it. Gravely versus benito lopez. I only bring this up. Because i just don't know where to lopez he hasn't fought and i think over well over to Sorry well over a year and a half so we want to see him back. I think i know he started a family. So maybe he's focusing on being a proud papa but But otherwise benito lopez not sure what's going on with him so Which seemed against my bring among mitchell. Stan likes mir shirt versus a versus huddle full. They add yes. Grapplers delight share rattlers light into it at young rabbi eighty six gravely versus another popular. Pick anything you would often hovers mark cheesy some picks there and mike. I will close out with nate andrews on twitter. Because i do want to shut out calling avery just because it's the first time contributor and he just wanted to say he wants to seek asylum presents. I thank you call every on twitter. You're getting your shut out. Thank you for listening and Andrews thank you for listening as well I do wanna read out some of his thoughts here. Sorry i'm going to get to this. So mukunu versus sam alvie. He's step down accomplish for alvie. Another fight to build mount make makerere klaipeda sorry granddaughter and this is something something more grievous. I love how we connected the granddaughter because romanov as versus speed. I need to run a back. All that fights weirdness. Aside spinal was robbed a bank in a boston. Crime movie shoutouts to the town and And the departed. But i don't remember the rodney banks in the departed now rob. They just robbed ding process. Mike processes good. So when i think about those are what's i think boston crimes but Definitely that was shot a to new and new england. Of course mike. And then the last thing says end sack judges versus a drug screen. This might be some of the worst judging. i've seen across an entire card since the start of the pandemic. I don't know if i agree with that. Like i said i would have to watch the fights get more closely myself. I didn't think any that. Maybe some of the cards were a report. But i don't know if there's any out out robberies but the people have spoken. Nate andrews think if your wealth out message and thank you all of the listeners like i think we are dumped that section now so of course if you guys want to reach out to me on social media with your suggestions hit me up twitter at least lighters. Dm's instagram under kaley to case email. Alex dot lee at espionage com. Mike Find me on twitter at mikic underscore. Jr instagram underscore heck jr. And that's going to do it for this week. Do not forget to join us next week. Gentleman's we discussed the fallout of ufc. Two sixty one three title fights kamara roseman mozelle to for the welterweight title john. Wiley versus rose nine units for the title. Valentina shevchenko versus just gone judge for the flyweight title. I'm sure we will match make for all six of those competitors regardless of what happens on saturday. Then of course the main carranza with chris wideman versus your hall the rematch on the regional seen over a decade ago wiedeman headed your hall his first professional loss for ring of combat. And you're doing on this one for a long time. So that should be on the main card opener. Anthony lionheart smith versus the surging up and coming. Jimmy cruise should be a fun card. We will talk all about it. The what's next for all of those individuals in eight out of ten may will who knows because it'd be a special edition of the program But they're young. So ak i m. I thank you for listening and always remember. Don't take this too seriously. Anime is supposed to be fun. We will have a lot of fun next week right here. On onto the next one the podcast. You're listening to the vox media podcast network.

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UFC Vegas 23 Post-Fight Show

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UFC Vegas 23 Post-Fight Show

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It's totally private and web. Based so you can prepare for the future and confidence from anywhere you can try for vito at risk free with a sixty day money back guarantee now at us dot for vida dot com. You're listening to the vox media. Podcast network sant singh at everybody. Yes we are live. We are back is just after six. Pm eastern town vegas twenty-three has come to an end marvin vittori would they dominate decision. Win over kevin harlan. And we're going to talk about that. We gonna talk about arnold allen's big win we'll talk about mckenzie dern big win in everything that happens on this car of course jillian marquez. Is big win his finish. His wacky carload for the second consecutive time danny rodriguez and so much more with all of you. So bring your russians. Bring your thoughts and reactions with our. We will address all of them right here. I am macaque osa. Young's in the building and we are the ones and the twos and he's got that look on his face. And i think i know i think i know why casey so we'll begin their we'll begin with the main event. I have to say you know. Some people on twitter disagree with me. I thought kevin holland had a really good starts at this fight. He was using space to his advantage. He was landing the heavier shots. He out struck margaret's oriented. I i actually thought kevin harlan one. The first round but then i thought vittoria stole all the momentum down the stretch and the round and then he just took over the five from there in the end vittori gets the win fifty. Forty four on all three scorecards. You don't seem overly thrilled with the italian dreams performance. Your thoughts on the main event was the w what marvin needed. I mean w all that matters in the sport. But it's not all that matters kerley no mrs main of it national tv marva tori going against a short notice undersized way and it wasn't fight out it was a fight he fought. He looked like he beep. He out wrestled a not so good welterweight. They can't wrestle that well. I don't know nothing. Nothing that twenty minutes than i ever ever caused a mind going because a mind and say you know what marvin should we matches. He definitely never mind. It was actually like that's so far out of my mind now. Now yeah it was was it was a big group of marvin congratulations to him and kevin harlan for saving the main event. Don't worry much else. I'll tell you i thought like in the second round vittoria had mounted almost a minute arm triangle. Yet them in big trouble. I have to look at the scorecards but that might have been the ten eight round on the judges cards but from there it just kind of turned into a little more of an aggressive version of what derek brunson did a couple of weeks earlier. I mean errors. Yeah i mean early on. I was like man. I pretty much nailed this fight. Exactly how it was going to go but yeah it just it was kind of more brunson ask and less vittoria ask. But listen for middleweight. That's is to put that kind of pressure and that kind of pace on his impressive. But if you're looking to get up there without a sonya and get him to say your name and not say darren till's name probably wasn't the performance he was looking for. He still thinks he deserves the title shot. But honestly i. I hate to do onto the next one stuff now but i think he should fight. Derek brunson. I think that's the fight to make whatever marvin v next is not going to be for the title. That's all no not gonna. That's me. I kind of said it. I i i've never seen someone get a w in a main event and actually kind of you might even move backwards in the ranking. Somehow i don't even know. But i mean if the winners tonight were based darren till and robert coming gas with them. You know incense that those guys think have a better chance to get in the next opportunity at the bell. I think unfortunately unfortunately for is the w and he's gonna kinda just just tread water in the rankings wherever he's at right now. He says he wants to fight of sunny in october. So okay at least bragging to take another bragging to get another win maybe to to get in that conversation a total on trying to take anything away from tori. 'cause the guy went in their short notice he could have easily said no to this fight and people have been like i get it. Man you go from darren till two kevin harlan's like darren tell there's a lot more on the line. There's a lot more at stake. You can gain a lot more from it. Yeah the may even after it beating kevin harlan leg in the grand scheme of things people love those numbers and the rankings doesn't do a whole lot for him especially if gets decision win. So jose your thoughts inventories performance and just the main event overall it was a fi in marvin one. And there's no arguing against it. But like i you guys pretty much already all said it's not going to get a job the only way he's gonna get a title shot is if he feels out on a last minute and he's like he like he. Volunteers you pull kevin holland. But that's about it because you didn't take a lot of damage in this fight so like but it also cuts a lot of weight. So i don't know if you've ever even be that fighter. So i liked the brunson fight. Paulo cost to fight. Like either one of those fights because brunson it's called out cost but if follows fight anytime soon also jared cannon near still hanging out there and they'll had some he had surgery. He got her shattered his own abon bone or whatever so he comes back and they wanna throw because candidates still third like three in the rankings. So like you still top five so yeah. Marvin is not going to tell shot. But i would. I would not say no to any of the fights those fights or if they just re book the darren until five because there's a lot of heat there too between them so yeah finally whatever but yet you guys already set everything else. Yeah i mean what else. What else can we say. I mean we see we. This is one of those made events. We don't spend fifteen minutes on. It was what it was. You know what i mean and no one really changed anything. I mean i was actually kind of them not. I'm disappointed the right word. But i was surprised at how what a better more dangerous striker holland was inventory. I kind of expected the can. I expect expected the standard more even but no clearly if if if holland was able to stuff to take downs big if in a very important if but if he was able to win that fight he would have not at least know decisioned batori just based on his striking but the gap in the wrestling was just so that mean. That's about it that's about that's about it. i was just. I was just kind of let down on in terms of no ken. Marvin is the show. Marvin fight for the title. The fact that he was getting in my opinion pretty pieced up by a tired kevin harlan. That's not good. You know in terms of you know his title aspirations. I mean he might get better. Maybe it's just a bad night. Marvin marvin marvin. It looks like you had better cardio. When he fought twenty minutes store notice against her man was. I think the only thing i would say to that is vittorio was was slated. If i if. I'm not mistaken before he filled in now. Hermansson and jacques read they're both grappler rattling based fires. So it's not difficult to just you know just focused on a different person. Zil is a southpaw counter striker that you have to kind of bait in in that is not kevin harlan at all. He's going to press forward. So maybe just a last minute complete stylistic change and stance change of played a factor like he just wasn't like as cardio is there but it was like you know like when you train i suit fighter. If you're gonna fight habib you're going to get your grappling on point and you're going to be good there with cardio so it was cardio wasn't there because that is not what he was training for. But i'm not going to try to make excuses because he won the fight at the end of the day. I'm not trying to make excuses for them. I'm kinda surprised. I mean in previous main events of lackluster main events. I'm not sure what maybe was accent. Iraq inch when dc was kind of going hard in the paint that you need more than the w you know you gotta you gotta you gotta show day and he got the fans you know something. And i'm surprised. They kinda they kinda didn't go no having the paint one that with marvin tonight because That's that's what these are for. These are showcases new. Marvan's talk all he wants after the fire before the by his interviews but he's still got us show up and something was something that was just not there tonight in that main event to wanna play the guests who wins bonus game. Okay yeah okay. Fight isn't out yet. So i figure okay. Good fight of the night is going to go two. Oh mcduffie and do you say that guys name not agnosio agnosio. And since agnosio didn't make way john mcdevitt should make him one hundred k. Because that was a freaking fantastic fight. And i hoping nausea actually goes up to one seventy because he looks too big one hundred five and dern performance of the night and who gets out the performance. Oh the heavyweight mark. Have uab mark or marcus because you guys sleep not donohoe. Donohoe got knocked out. Decastro knockout was incredible but Game rock could get it if they don't go by tonight. I guess he gets the four five five night bonus as my guess. Yeah jonny i wonder if they'll throw emba bone i mean the dude guy like poster is like he's going to be in the receiving end of highlight reel knockout for the rest of his life like every ufc. Promotional package ever will have impo sang. And i getting knocked out by walking buckley on it. And then he goes out there drops away class and puts away. Sasha kopf early in the second round to kick things off. I think just throw a bone anyways. Just give him one. Wherever that every fighter she begins some sort of bonus for finish and thought more talk about later but the daren't dern submission was just great just super great and she's she's she's a problem she's a big problem. I talk about yeah and knock out of decastro by the mountain man man mountain. What's his name man. Mountain man mount. Oh good lord what a perfect nickname. And he sounds like man. Now how would you describe man mallon. Oh there you go. Yeah as soon as he spoke a nineties prowrestler for wrestling. he'll thought named the guy man now and that's on like i don't know the story. I go for like two years or longer than that. Or i i. Don't i know nothing about him. I like who is that guy. Oh he's murdered a man he's getting paid for it. That was a bad knock that that was a scary knockout. No doubt about it. That was is wow. That was his first fight since. Ufc fight night. Ninety three in september of two thousand sixteen was the main of internet. Don't tell me you okay. Go for nine hundred. Eighty five ninety three. If you got this. This'll be like riddick. This'll be ridiculous did you. Yeah i looked at the crazy part. Is they're actually why i interview these guys. Ibm remember yeah. Was that this event. This is first fight since. Ufc fighting ninety three or win. I fight first night fighting covered. It was a very very famous is very well known by night. Was it in the. Us no now our ask our last of our net. Nope look at the wrong one. Thank you say. Nope and i'm right. You alright what a jet art ed's o. Oh the draw right above. i'm looking at. I'm looking at the one that he lost right below it. I've seen them the point is i've seen the man fight before it was too foreign. It was born in bites are alexander. Gustafsen beat yamba in the co main event ryan. Bater knocked out a lear latifi. Ufc fight night. One hundred was baiter little. And i do those betas. Last year see fight jacker. Manson was on the The early prelims gotta win over scotch. Her mask them hammered morning. I was one of those cards. I just dragged forever. Now you say hit. The man mountains i fight was on the silva biz bancard and and london arena in other card. What are the peop- saying right. Now we'll talk about. I'm sure we're gonna talk about all this stuff anyways as we wait. The the bonus is to be announced. All right let me hold on. Let's see if the peeps have any energy to bring us do city. Usa was a great fight. Is like everything i hope for. Good stuff now no problem. Yeah i did. Like aren't coming into the. I was definitely much higher analysis. Then yussef and didn't blow me away but It was a very good performance. Goodbye an good performance from out for sure support for this episode comes from for vida helping you rethink how you drink. Where vida is a web based program that works by helping you notice the negative thought patterns. You might experience in your relationship alcohol and then it gives you the tools you need to break those patterns rooted in cognitive behavioral therapy for wider is designed to help you prepare for the future by arming you with techniques to help you drink less. It's totally private and one hundred percent web based so you can access it from anywhere you can try vida receive free with a sixty day money back guarantee now i u. s. dot for vida dot com support for this episode. Comes from locker room the app. That's changing the way we talk. Sports locker room is a sports fans. Dream come true a live audio platform that lets you connect with other fans experts. And even the athletes themselves locker room makes it easy to start your own conversations. Talk about the latest rumors takes news and teams you care about most join massive watch parties for all of your friends to react together in real time as you celebrate a buzzer beater or suffer the agony of crucial free throw. And if you've got a bunch of supremely spicy takes you'd like to fire off you're in luck you can even record the conversations if you want and released them as a podcast so it's time to start thinking about catchy titles it's all totally free and available at the. Irs app store right now so go download it today. Locker room changing the way we talk sports yourselves. Ability to recover is super impressive because he got clipped. Oh yeah at least twice. Real bad kenzi. Darren just be top-five competition nina nunez. Do you think she's ready for contenders like carlos bars and john. John i will tell you what i was talking about those talking to ak privately on our slack channel and i talked to damon martin about this as well. I i wanted mackenzie during the kalyani j. Check right in that moment. Like just be like you don't have to say like you know you stole everything that i've worked for. I would have fight your ass like none of that. Just be like you're not busy. I'll fight her. That's all i want. Like all due respect. I wanna fight you on. She probably would get that fight like she probably get a fight of that level but now that she didn't do that i don't think she's gonna get a she's gonna get a fight that high. I think she'll get a good one. I think she's going to get a really tough test but i think if she said somebody's name she probably would have gone after a performance like that but i don't think even mattered. I think dern is so it's such a high priority for the matchmakers and a matchmaking her correctly to get her legitimate title shot sometime soon I think she's fine. Did you call anyone was one of those. Whatever joe silva says. I'll fight outside anybody in the top ten but i would prefer more hopefully in the top five. Now you're gonna find marina. Rodriguez won't do that. I mean that fight rules but this time it's a good fight. You have to. You wanna do that. Why they love this. Why would they not put our down. Wasn't that a notice fight though like that wasn't the original matchmaking. They had well. He was supposed to fight. Esparza then was gonna fight. Waterson and washing was like four a month. I think they think they. I just don't think they wanted what he bust. Fight marina it just kind of fell into their lap because it was the last minute kinda thing and so like they they wanted. Amanda beat car for sure. I think if by doing by the books during versus. You wanna being that will without a doubt. No give dern a legitimate contender contender ship for the fight for thailand. If i mean heck i mean just by rankings by the ufc rankings during the tonight. She's just just justifiably can get a title shot. So who knows i. I don't think i don't think they will. I don't think they should do that. But if she's willing to fight on a certain day for certain amount of money and no yawn or whoever else no isn't ready. Then i don't see why not man but during frigging i just great matchmaking. Just great matchmaking. Dern face someone that's been out of the cage for two years you dour back. We have bonus in only out for not even not only out for two years pushed a human being out of her body like come on. What are the bonus. Hit me all right perforances tonight. Kenzi dern matere scam rods camera fight of the night there's only two performance bonuses. Yeah there's always been to performance bonuses fight of the night. Sam alvie versus julian marquez. Okay what god dang it. What the heck do that was like one of the best striking god damn kind. The dow it listen scissor. Jed michou tweeted. Look at your boy call. it nailed it. I'd i mean now a scrap advocacy. Bahamonde is better. Yeah and man just a disappointing night. I'll go with that. one government. Hot marla murray's. I'll just getting these violent win. To rebound. yeah he'll good you really striking striking skin so much better. Yeah he's awesome wave. I can't wait for like him to get like these high level lightweights. Because i when he was in case w. i wanted him like they should have signed way earlier than they did. I was like fantasy matchmaking. Him in the afc for too long and now we can finally get of these fights. What's what's one of them. I really wanted him to fight When hit gillespie was on the rise and he was on the rise. I was like make that happen. I really want again rockslide. Kevin lever a bit just because that would just be a scrap. All there was one for a long. Obviously he's not going to get all the Fell there would be awesome. That's not going to happen. there's a there's a million fights like i remember when because i wanted when engage one gay joins the lightweight division and then camera joins and then chandler joins. They had literally taken the three lightweight. Champions that i was like. I need these three to just fight each other but obviously camera was such on such smaller level in terms of eyeballs. Rankings but i still wanna see those fights down the road for sure yeah. He looked good very exciting. Let's see what was that question. Casey what is next for arnold allen. Personally i think you should face josh emmett or the loser of zombie e i will i will. I will cross josh off this list. Because i spoke with josh. Maybe about a month ago three weeks ago and his recovery is taking a lot longer than he had hoped. He's had some setbacks so he said basically perfect world he fights in december so just judging by just history and how he sounded and how he was explaining things. I'll be surprised if he fights in twenty twenty one. So i would say is out of this conversation. Zombie perhaps who knows. But what would you like to see. Next for. Arnold alan jose. I do like the loser of or the winner. I don't care of The zombie fight. That's fun fight. The only problem though. It sucks that allen kinda got stuck during the pandemic like wasn't able to fight because he was stuck in the uk and a lot of his fights fell out so it's not his fault he was inactive but they just said he has the longest win streak in division. Like throw him against the be. Like if you just wanna come back. Why not make that happen like doesn't make sense ranking wise. No but i think our allowance deserves a massive name at this point so either of those three b.'s beat cater. I'm knocking soon. Noted arnold allen and calvin cater allocated wants to return because i did callans the lowest range fighter that is close to arnold in the ranking wise. So like they might be right there so wouldn't hate that either in any of those lie way rules obviously or featherweight rules. Obviously so fill in the blank against arnold allen in the top fifteen. And i'll watch it. So you only use damien chant. Alan fights anyone behind him. His next fight has team might win in front of him. Eat my half to But like calvin is in front of him and if wants Can return anytime soon. And he's healthy. That fight makes sense. 'cause calvin probably wants to come back and get a guy on a hot streak to doesn't wanna just get sifi someone so lower than him so but he might get bud light. I wouldn't arnold alan and edson barboza. That's amore bose is going to be ranked lower than him but who's barbosa fighting next burgo so like the winner that to like. I don't care he might have to fight someone rice lower than him. That's just unfortunate but it is what it is. What's going on bryce mitchell. Wasn't he hurt surgery or something. I know he hurt his hand or his arm or something in the field he fight okay someone behind him. Yeah but i think. I think getting a win over a guy like use of puts him ahead of me. He's like he's like two wins ahead. Abramovich all right now. In my opinion i agree and a division this tight like i think. I think he would take the bar. Boza beats burgos. I think he'd be happy to take our boza. He would barboza gallardo. That's the thing. I think it would. Because he would be ranked tanguy would be ranked higher than barbosa. So barbosa be fighting up right exactly. I also selfishly have been calling for ever since they fought on the same card. I want boasted if i gauge a cause.'. Really bad so. I don't want that fight taken away from me that fighters my new zombie. Brian take place. Speak that into existence. Or we're going to get it four years late. Say we'll get it twenty twenty-five park that mark your calendars mark your calendars but ireland is is in a good position. I'm with you jose games. A beat beets been gone for a while. Where were we're slowly getting to two years now. I think that's that's a good test. It'd be makes most sense with the with him being out for so long. That makes the most sense berg. We'll see who knows yeah. He played that. I was going to call somebody in the top five but i feel like my performance was good enough for like just say it. Just say he's a meat. Let's go see arnold allen. Needs that that that confidence that mara vittori has mama joy just bought twenty minutes a national. Tv in a fight that over the last fifteen minutes. We were all looking down our phone looking down. You know and and he's still comes down like you is. He like i admire. That man's confident our allen needs. He walked like you walked out. And dominik irs like this guy. He'd legitimately thinks he's the champion legitimate as is. You can't teach that kind of confidence chance you're the habit of you. Don't he's got like marva tori. He wasn't that angry. He was angry after once. He got kicked in the in the ding ding. I thought he was gonna turn green and start. I start tearing the cage apart composed in there can we. Can we throw away the the the myth or whatever that kevin harlan had a mental breakdown. Brenton now that us talking. I mean i didn't believe that crap anyway but i mean he didn't talk. Almost i was like i said. Come on kevin. When you're losing the fight that is the best time to talk crap. i loved. He kinda kept himself for the most part. And it's like come on kevin. He picked his spots in the fight. Picked his spots like when there are grappling against the cage. Column was talking about talking to my little bit. It came out at different points. But what would happen window. We just opened the window slow. Oh man my sorry. I missed it. Go random bar right here. What is going on check. -nology okay i see what's going on. Say what else you got booted. Hopefully hopefully the answer to arnold ounce. Question is very soon like arlen versus whoever very soon not another to another fourteen months. Yeah lots of john questions. Here john he jumps in i i for some folks say come on. Let's let's let's space a little bit but dana rigas look great. He sure did what does xm do. You think he's ready to challenge top fifteen competition. Personally i'm down for enriquez's face carlos condit a robbie lawler next when you think about. That idea was a young's ooh i hadn't even thought about that fight. I don't hate you. Considering mike perry was booked to fight robbie lawler at one. Point and then rodriguez beat him. I wouldn't hate him against him. Means either that'd be a scrap to thirty five. Th that's true. Yeah those kind of coming out party yet. jeff jeff. diehl wouldn't be a bad fight either. Neil neil booked up to neon neil. I don't know that. I liked the law that fight f. That's good one. What's nico price. Doing that might be the answer right there. My friend why. While we am do big big clash of styles daniel regan's versus sean brady brady ladies rang. Or he wants me lou. Loser gets the tattoo of the others choice. Yeah i mean but robbie lawler cartland card. It's thought carla's booked. No you know what. But both those fights mentioned I don't know if condo or lottery takes takes those fights just because maybe i don't know railway game it's like that fight there are regional good or a bad. I think because. I think what really impressed me with rodriguez is. His job was on point the whole time. Like he's kinda messed up his nose with his job. And when harry would get like wobbled. Rodriguez would not just unload like he just kept the pressure. But it wasn't like i'm gonna blow my gas tank trying to finish this guy like he was very patient in there so i don't think he looked bad. He looked good but he showed me a lot that he answered questions that i had. If that makes sense i don't think it was a star. Making performance been definitely answered questions. Wasn't we go by doing so. You have a fight. that'd be fun. I don't think they make that. That's fine too. I like they make that when we think it might married though. I don't know. I don't know he needs that too-narrow the only one whose beat is over all. Yeah it's it's. I look at the streets. Earlier was not not good. That's rough i had a. I had a friend over here watching the fights with me and she she she places she was already paid. She doesn't follow the sport but she pays attention and she says every time. The commentators start mentioning how tough someone is. She knows that person's absolutely getting their butt kicked so by the first round they were talking about how that's all dom The the the commenters are talking about how tough mike perez ooh. You're getting your bucket because we're not talking about. How tough danny rodriguez. What's so so is one three out. It might periods when three out of his last ten fights. It's just flat. And i like the whole even with mike loses. The still exciting tonight was one of those weird or even in his even in loss it was just like okay that was i just saw guy got beat up fifteen minutes and then yeah and then again he did you think we see him again at least one more at least one more. Yeah yeah. I guess because he looks really bad before and he had stuff going on in his life. That was probably enough to lose your job and dana. White still kept him around. I mean the means by wasn't bad. The neal i were. I mean if i was phenomenal and he has. He would like that. Sometimes you come back better sometimes. You're never the same. And i look if i might. Have you know taken a little bit away from. That's good observation. Yeah these these these one-sided these wars but really just one sided just beatings on mike. Peiris face i mean he's still he's still human. Being is still a person so his body is. I hate throwing washed or shot out there. Because they'll just kind of mean to say that but I feel like the best best. Mike parry that we saw that's long gone and now we just a bit of a shell. Now what's best win belder. Well if i know. I think as the most prominent win another part cowboy oliveira. That was good fight. I think it might have been because he took that one like super-quick for that one didn't he didn't take it that weeks. Not the cobb oil verified. i don. isn't that one. He stepped in on short notice. I don't remember. I don't think so. Take not because that was on the thousand. The florida card right. He was supposed to fight leasing lang and then perry stepped in instead. Okay yeah i knew. He stepped in yeah knew he stepped in short notice. I remember reacting to fight. And maybe that one like maybe in the felder fight fell shattered his arm first round so he basically fought my with one on one hand in a super competitive to from what i remember. Yeah and that's just because who's fellow supposed to fight on that card. I thought thought it was filling in for someone. Because they i think they both lost their opponents. They were like acid. Let's fight each one of those was yup. That's exactly what happened. Yeah yeah. I feel like was supposed to be it was supposed to be yancy. Medeiros and mike perry split with blue. Gay might have been as best. She was so thousand. That was those nuts. I feel like i don't know how to like. I feel like mike perez trying to be like to technical in there you know what i mean like. I were missing the mike perry that i came into the ufc. That just like his sole goal was she just like annihilate people like streetfight style. Go in there and just throw bombs and i feel like we don't that that guy just and i get it like as you as you get older and as is your battle-tested and you have these the all these different fights in these wars. You lose some of that. And you're trying to like kind of avoid getting those craziest grass with mike perez. At his first came to the ufc. Just throw in hamza people talking about his story just like mike berry. Just kinda reminds you of a guy like if you saw on the street like i don't go to. This guy is crazy. I feel like the guy who's seen the last three fights. It's not really that guy anymore. Maybe just the the lord lou gauges took that out of them like we talked about earlier. Who knows we'll see what happens. I think you'll get one more fight. Least yeah who knows though okay to to do to do. It'd be like another. Let's get another welterweight over. Yeah pretty much like that. Yeah okay. I knew you were going to pull this question someplace. Did you see the best. The world adalaide byrd. Give that beautiful thirty to twenty seven to joe joselito over jim miller i have a. I didn't have a big of a problem with that. Scorecard is a lot of other people. I mean neither neither. I'm on your side. Mike i i gave it to miller but coming out of that round it could go either way so look at the numbers. Look at the numbers select. He pull garden exactly exactly tape. He pulled guard so he's actually controlling the position. He's he's bringing. Jim miller into his guard. It wasn't jim miller taking him down and putting him putting second-place he didn't want to be so lucky chose to be there on his back and that is an and i think we get the idea just because we got just because in. Your bag doesn't mean you're losing the round just by default we assume that. But it doesn't mean and actually i kind of respect bird for giving it psyche. Because i thought he was winning the round up until he pulled guard and then once he pulled guard gate and no real submissions. We'll throw no russell. You have damage from either guy was done. So i wanna give around selecting be honest now that i kinda rethink it. But it wasn't a crazy. So i was surprised people were kind of worked up about. It wasn't even close to being the worst scorecard of the night. Not even close bad scorecards. There's some splits that like should not have been splits. I thought ten remind me the make. The desi was one of them. Thirty twenty twenty seven. Yeah i remember to how how other guy got to rounds is kind of crazy. But it was all competitive. Thirty twenty-seven wasn't a blowout rounds. But yeah yeah now. And for sure so i know we talking about i think we. I got a question on this later. I gotta find it ear. We are this is this is this is another one join griffin lost the louis south out to be one was adalaide byrd judd. Was she the judge for that fight. I don't know if i can look. I don't know if she was a judge. I haven't but i didn't watch it super close. So you know a alley. La bird was a judge on that fight and she did give it to saldanha. Who gave a three judge rob. I thought i thought i if they said it for griff scored it for solid. Donna wins. I have no problem with it. It was it was a close fight on decisions only journalists to give it touts to give. Donna are sean shinhan matthew. Both enemies of this. To tell you i can tell you from going. Through doing twitter reaction to the site that the vast majority of fellow fighters dog griffin want. Okay i talked to. I think there was no this big like they were like well. I guess like good thing. I'm not a judge tight judge. Yeah shag jared jared gordon mutism shitty judge because i thought jordan one not fight. All right okay here though. Here's here's the one thing that will that will be remembered in the future. The history books will remember about this card is the debut i gotta tell ya like after looking at the photos and like us talking about it on different shows actually like seeing them in the octagon tonight. My dog that they looked pretty damn good. I liked the different. Look that ever designed like wasn't like exactly like reebok. It had like some different to him. I liked him. And i don't know who gave jillian marquez's shorts but jeez louise dude. Those things are like those are super short. Were i mean we're like we're borderline like eighties pro wrestling here. We're getting getting to that level. But yeah but i thought it looked pretty. Cool my big issue okay again. I may go into how this is just fight. Uniforms and fight. Sports is just stupid but we got uniforms. I'm just gonna go of that. I yeah the fangs are cool but man we're going to have fangs for the next five years. Six years is every shorts going. Just everything's just fangs. And i think in some fighters they work. But i think jim miller's jim it or should be worrying i cargo shorts or something. I don't know that. Just just those those stylish you know fangs instead of just like weird jim miller. I just didn't get it. I just i just wish. I had more more variations. I get no always clean stuff. But yeah i know but change it up. Just have some different versions of it. Just everything is that. That's all everything is no things but yeah oh by. We'll say this for the the need i need. A female. Fighter appeared for the female fighters that venom outfits did look much better. They better and they you watch in the previous reebok like other women always know kind of readjusting their sports bras and stuff and it seemed. It seemed like in. This seemed fine so good. Jose between the links thursday. You gave a very passionate speech and you said i could care less. I don't care. Pay the fighters more money. I don't care now that you see them. You probably still don't care but do you like them. Better the reebok. Did they stick out to you at all. They were there wore shorts. They don't fall off. They were functional. That's the most important thing like i they were. They were more functional. I think that was like i said that when they first announced it like venom has been making fight kits and gear for a long time like they had a they had one of the cases. You remember the old fan expos. They had one of the biggest boosts dare like they were selling gear. They they were like they were like josie aldo shotgun and all those brazilians aware so announced this. I'm like oh at least it's like nike and under armour are big names but venom has actually been making gear that it's functional foreign may fight for a long time so that is a big positive so they know what they're doing in terms of that design i fully. I didn't really again. Don't care. But i fully expect things to change like we saw. The reebok was the same thing for about a year and then they were slight slight variations. Moving forward like they added subtle designs. It wasn't anything groundbreaking or to write home about but it is what it is again. I don't whatever does give the fighters more money. That's the that's all i can. That's all i would honestly care about. But they looked better than the reeboks debut. I'll say that your reebok came out. So reebok's i fight card and venoms i fight card. Reebok bloom out of one. But i don't really. I'm not buying any of them. So there's a bother me casey. You should start tweeting about the venom gear like all throughout the next card and might actually get on the broadcast. All the va. The veterans tweets got on the broadcast. All all the positive once. Sorry that was to two. Oh here we go. Ooh this is an interesting question. Who had the best fight card. This week one bella to war or the ufc storyline was. It's one right now mounting better but like what we're talking about like days later it's one right like it has to be flowing into yet. Storyline wise definitely one even though that was probably the most disastrous event in terms of you know marketing but story wise. Yeah which is very weird to say. Disaster did their disastrous event. Turned out to be the best event. Storyline wise. I thought all three cars a lot of potential and none of the three cards hit that potential so nine nine round for everyone. I give one nine and a half and half nine nine. I don't know i'll go with that. Bella taurus was fine decisions. It's just decisions decision. Even though they weren't bad fights it was just another decision. The decision and i think a lot of fun. Yeah i thought. I thought i thought the to feather weight to featherweight fights. Were really excited for coming this weekend. I thought both those fights while they didn't like go fight of the year type fights they both Met my expectations. As far as just to top level featherweights punching each other and Yeah and alan boards. More ch- both proved to be the better fighters those nights and i thought both of them they well. I'll say in terms of social numbers. Because i like i'm running the instagram and twitter and everything One had by far generally the most Engagement journal conversation. It's like the most comments and replies and you know like actual fan interaction contributes the conversation casting ghana's win did by the biggest tween in terms of likes in terms of one. Ufc and bella tour but so she had about like also like twelve thousand combined likes into cross all the media for like her announcing her win by. Mackenzie dern has almost hit the same number in in like the three hours since. She's one so she should by the end of the day. Mackenzie should be the most engaged winner of the three cards but in terms of all three cards in terms of fan interaction is one and then you have see in ballot order like underneath them because there was so much talking points coming out of one. Yeah watson sure and it's also a lot of like. I posted like i kind of threw together like a couple of graphics on twitter. Reacts before eddie's and losses and like for example Cazin got like ryan baiters. Win had ninety comments total on instagram. Dmitri's johnson's loss had fourteen hundred comments on it. So that tells you. And like eddie alvarez. At almost eight hundred and fell had twenty comments. On roy mcdonough incurs melander bring announced. So tells you where that's sitting right there yeah And then marvin tori had has almost two hundred comments right now but it's all like one all the comments. I love him and may fifth best. Just the best. Use to like eddie alvarez reacting to the loss almost sixty thousand views on just insert the blue everything else out of the water and like even mckenzie's like interviews with. You did well for a fight night but they weren't even close to the reaction. I want champion at a one. One one one one one one one one one one one people are going to keep going to tune it also. It's the i would say the winter. They made their debut on a major network in the united states. I think like the promotion businesswise chair. The ratings weren't that great but to cares. Start somewhere you gotta gotta put. They gotta put in front of them. They got to put it before. I know it's hard being in asia. It's hard to time it. They got to put it for you. W they've been talking about having a north american show for a while right. Or i think i had been here and they were going open like an office for but then i assume the pandemic kind of threw a wrench in a lot. This remember we interviewed. What's his name. The president of is w in las vegas casey and he had. I don't know if you've seen this video yet mike. I don't think he would join the site. He had been talking with ballots or to put a co promoted event in chicago and they wanted like i remember the reason they wanted to fill the freeze and ryan bater fighting all say. Oh my god gave me that fight because chicago has such a huge as such a big polish population in the united states. And that's what they wanted to test but he goes of course the differences money and which champions fight which champions ended obviously didn't happen martin levin. That's his name. Yup and i asked him if you watch that. I asked him about gamera worst camera. Why is he not fighting. Oh i remember now okay. Yeah remember when you're talking about fight. I never heard of me i. I didn't hear about that. now now. everything's coming back now. Where is why are you not on my television. I've been hearing his name camera for so long from you. And i and so i was i buy and it was a good fight but yeah. He showed up tonight against against a very good good competitor. I was after the preview. Show when i kind of said that there are a lot of people thought camera beat grim. But i didn't think it was a robbery and a lot of people agreed. I didn't think there were that many people that thought gamera had won that fight. I don't last year. It was so close it will grow up. Kick them to hell for like walked in limping from all the key through any wanted to islam and five days they should have given him the treatment. Yeah e. come on say. Yeah yeah yeah. I lost even win mezuzah. One i'll fight islam next week. Yeah let's throw you right in there. That's true that if we see him again now we see him back. Whenever that happens. I know he was injured so You just pulled out anything right. Yeah i forgetting it was a match was it. Yeah dow was a scribe and then they think they re booked. I hope so. I think they're trying to rebook it for july from what i hear. I haven't confirmed both sides. But i think maybe maybe someone area reported that got money goes nerdwallet. Got your back with the smartest credit cards mortgages investing accounts and more. Maybe you're looking to book thrice-postponed honeyman nerdwallet can help you. Compare and find the smartest travel rewards card now you can earn points towards that much deserve trip or if you're thinking it's time for a bigger house now that your family is about to grow by exactly one bedroom nirvana it's got calculators and tools to help you find the smartest and since your family is growing. It's probably a good idea to think about your child's future college plans right. We'll all it's got your back. 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I mean yeah. She's good you jitsu but holy moly her going yeah her working at with Brillo at ruka down the rookie. Jim down in southern california. Man she is. She's much better and she looked so arms ex so jacked. It's not even an issue of her making one fifteen anymore that was like the big storyline. She's coming up flyweight defied strawweights. You know she dern continues progression. She had me. She is a contender. I i can't i it's just it's too far a leap. To say she's she's got beat rosenbaum unisource she's gonna wipe wipe the floor ueli or yuan or anything but that's why i love the dern. You wanna do it man. We're ready do it book. And i'm in and it's fair to say that for the podcast listeners can read it i think even the podcast regards to jillian mark as out and its if there's one thing this one thing we've learned about jillian marquez. Is that you never know what's going to happen like you never know what's gonna come out of his mouth. That's what it is. And that's why i don't hate call out. Because what did we talk about four casey. What do we like at a post. What are we like in post but interviews. Casey be yourself be yourself. Man embraced her. Inner ninja. Do whatever you want do power undisclosed been called to play pickle ball against the chiefs now. Everyone now guess what. Guess what happens the next time. He has opposed by press conference. We're all going to be like once again to say what's he gonna say. And now his post by interviews are must watch television. Love it he. Megan would never be f f. The people that say that was wasted. Call out. forget that man. Good now what if you go to pick them. All against patrick mahomes is anyone in the ufc. Non and conor mcgregor a bigger deal than the united states. Dan patrick no casualty holds an nfl super nfl mvp super bowl champion and julia marquez. A middling middleweight. Michael blade pickle ball with him. Come on like a good job jillian marquez. I love it. Yeah i i can name. I can't really name one football. And it's actually patrick mahomes. I can't boom. Maybe tom brady economic two players. That's all i can. Patrick mahomes is there. You go good job juli marquez. Don't everyone with toco. Don't and i didn't hate the call out because i shared a photo of me playing batman after this because nyc and was my it was it was. I most liked tweet at night. Picture claimed badminton. 'cause i love badminton badminton. Rule of it. what what. What was the biggest story in terms of not title fights. What was the biggest post fight interview of the last few months mike that generated the most numbers marquez nope dominant crews and who did he call out to equal out an actual fighter and hope on'small cancer. The point where people on this site made me ask about two weeks after the fact. Good job doing marquez. Keep doing your thing. See anyone can call out a fighter. Yeah that's easy. Come on mike. Can you just call a random dude on the street and get people talking. What if like now now. You can call out wherever he wants. He called the miley cyrus interacted with them. Patrick mahomes interact all three responded to him on. Twitter responded ball homes is like let's do it. Man cats fee was like kelsey was like we can settle this up. And then tyreek hill was like all three tag abso- lamarcus miley cyrus respond to you and three super bowl championships. Pod responded to you do your thing man after haters embrace your ninja and keep doing power rangers pos. That's very impressive. Start picking people off in every sport. What's greenwich cells incurring roy. Hey rory mcilroy. Let's play some frisbee golf. Roy i will. I will go. I will beat you in pictionary. Leads pictionary sean. Why what do you have an olympic trained for me you so rates foursquare. Let's go up. Be a banner. Scott come on julian mark and we're talking about it. Yeah we're talking about. We're not talking. We're not talking about him getting fifty. We're not talking about him. Winning extra fifty k. Or getting a great knockout. We're talking about his. Put a human being sleep and that's not even important like whatever. Talk pickle ball. I love it i love it julia marcus thing. Don't that was not a waste. Call out what you know. What i take back my side. I take my side back reverse. I can't i watch everything. Like just call him on e w he's a personality. I would get comes to work on. Getting what the heck sooner rather than later. Oh yeah I just because it's an important question to ask. I don't wanna go back to john dean. Ding ding ding non again. But here we go. John d. jonty fish. I don't know. I can't even answer that question. I could fight in three weeks. The hell knows okay. what if what. If you're in there like chris why you wanna fight kevin harlan. He's like okay under the assumption is not another short notice fight full. Can't you know in this. Call it you know four and a half months from now. Whatever i mean. I mean always going out. Russell by one seventy years. Well yeah. But he's getting out russell by eighty-five who aren't known to be wrestlers. So i hope it's a way i really wanna his full potential in there and me. He weighed in. He weighed in again under one eighty three years again. Yeah i mean that's e in marvin looked solid. Two hundred and there. that's at least. Yeah i wanna see how. I i've seen enough of this. You know. watch your way holland fighting middleweights. We've kind of done that and notify. I'd like i'd like to see it too. I mean fun grabs yeah. That's the only doing that. That's the fire. You do honda. You can still do holland. Perry and it would be alright. Yeah i the one. I'm in for either those. I just want the fight would be the most interesting because as you said he's he's lost a bunch and hung in holland. Have that very. I don't know how true that story is. But it's a dangerous ground and walk to like discuss. There's some racial connotations in there so they could break some brick in there and kevin arnold that fight. You guys were you guys. Don't storms all right. He called the lobby thing. Yeah he called kevin the help. Yeah and tell them. We get him a coffee or something like that. And i was like. Oh no that was kevin's point. I don't know if it was lost in translation or something but it was not great. That sometimes sound great as is the updated anyone on his health recently. He's been calling people out and he's saying june july but the ufc hasn't said anything. Yeah i don't believe so. It's not up to the. It's not up to arms out right now. A couple on. Neil mag he was gonna magna bunch. Yeah and and but but yeah. Now it's nealon. Neil neil magnets said. He wants to fight but he's not going to put on hold waiting which is more than fair. How much of that hype train is still here. I mean it will. It will be back when he comes back for sure. I agree. Yeah because we're talking about him now a fight but we're talking about an facing a guy coming whatever. Yeah it'll be interesting. It hasn't even been a year since he betas his debut which is even crazier to think about a couple more questions before we call it. Mr heck sorry notification to know. I got the. Do you wanna talk to julia marquez. This week so how many more fights is jack. Shore joe select. You need to get need to win to get fifteen opponent in their respective divisions. I would say that it's going to be a bit for select because lightweight is deep. I think it's i dana dana. What dana white basically said. If you don't know now you know thing. He chose this fight and they said he's still like you say picks lucky miller heine said essentially like we think joe lucky is the real deal if he can. We're we're throwing him in there with jim. Jim miller just to see if he's ready for top fifteen competition so in his is this is kind of a fight to like maybe get him to that point so i don't know i don't know i would say they're probably similar spots right now. Considering divan is hard bannon. Wade's real hard right now. To jackson definitely has a long way to go. I feel but joseph us. Here's a here's the thing. I think that that like in terms of what makes obviously watching fights and wins and losses matter. I think what jackson has gone for him is he. Has the cage warrior championship and he is a big deal in the uk so he could get big fights with for the uk audience like one eventually. The world opens up in often. He could like like arnold allen has eight wins in a row. he has longest win streak in the. He's not high ranks because he just hasn't had those big opportunities and then we're about like almost got to fight frigging the number three welterweight in the world just because he was popular right there. So i think jack shore might. His road might be shorter. Just in terms of he's popular in the uc might want to get the marketing machine behind. Tim sooner if that makes sense. Yeah it's five. It's fossil but again you don't. I mean you test you game a stiff test tonight. Yeah with hunter bonfire. Just it's not gonna it's not gonna get any easier at thirty five right now. If you throw them in there with mantell jackson next. I mean that's just a ridiculous fight. Let's go fight and cage. Champs had not done great lately in the ufc and jack shore their wrong. He's like the only one shores goodman the striking's getting much better are. we is beating beating. Jim miller not the same anymore. Is it just not mean. Very much no we. We all decided to remember. We had this conversation. On when. Neil magny lost. Who or not neil magny dairy brunch the derrick barnes in holland fight one of the questions was derek. Brunson the best gatekeeper and ufc history. And we all agree to jim miller so like this jim beating. Jim miller is what gets you. Yeah that next level. So i think he was. It was a perfect one. Oh it was it was i think coming into. I thought my pretty. I was kind of with dana. I thought miller was going to be a fight of the night. I thought it was gonna be. I think i think even crews was saying the same things. We kind of were hoping crazy. Grapple and we we got grappling. Just not the best part but yeah just like he was gonna win. And i take too much out of it. You know i. I don't just another fight. Like maybe joe lucky versus vince. Special guys who just beat up. Jim miller Been special yeah. Yeah there's there's a lot of fights for them vince. Michelle is making stupid. United states jokes at british people on national television. Yeah okay all right sick one. Two more questions oops. It's gray so lucky. Gillespie it'd be fun on an unrelated anime no jd martinez just as a positive for covid sitter alert l. 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Ep. 518 - John Wick: Chapter 3  Parabellum

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Ep. 518 - John Wick: Chapter 3 Parabellum

"Flash. Hello, everyone and welcome to the slash film gas, the official podcast slash home dot com. I'm David Chen, and with me are the bender hardware, and Jeff cannata and welcome to the show. Usually we talk about some what we've been watching in get on into an in depth review this week. We're just going to be doing an in depth review of John wick chapter three, you can find more episodes of this podcast slash dot com. You can also Email us slash JIMBO dot com. I want to read some emails before we get into our review of John chapter three and these emails in particular, are in response to our review last week in episode five hundred seventeen of detective Pika chew now we will not be spoiling detected Pika chew in these emails, but these emails will contain references to the premise of detective, Beka chew and in last week's episode. We talked about the Q and Jeff can out of you and I particularly mused about what is going on with these Pokemon specific. Kley. Are they like slaves to the humans? And if so, is fighting them with each other, like letting them fight against each other akin to, like, dogfighting in which case, everyone in the Pokemon universes is like monsters. They're just like terrible people. Right. Yeah. The, the premise of the movie is that there's a place where they that doesn't happen. But the implication is that everywhere else. That's what's happening. So if there's a place that doesn't happen where they're treated as equals shouldn't that be a red flag for everybody else. Yeah. So Matty from Boston writes, in to Sasha Millicom, he writes, quote, this is a great episode. I've recently been going for your backlog, and also listening to Dave's game of thrones podcasts. And I've noticed that a lot of people writing to you after an episode to comment on a mistake you made in an episode, and I'm always like who are these people that care so much to write an Email in response to something that's already gone out? Well, apparently this week, I am these people I was absolutely mortified in this week's episode when Davinder rolled over and let Dave and Jeff, compared poke him on battling to hunting for sport. And then to dogfighting obviously, I'm being hyperbolic, and this is all in good faith. I absolutely. Love your podcast. And don't objected this agreements and opinions. But I figured I yelling to the wind anyways because, apparently, this is the hill. I'm willing to die on lots of great metaphor too, your Matty Pokemon, and humans are partners. It's not a slave master thing and trainers cannot make poke him on battle, if they do not want to there are many examples in the show that show put him on who refused to battle. There's also a mechanic in the game where if you aren't. Good enough, trainer stronger procam on will simply disobey in battle, the whole idea is that it's a two way relationship between the puck him and the trainer. I compared closer to the relationship of a coach and an athlete than to dogfighting, if anything it's like MMA fighting, which may not be that much better. But it's not tricking an animal into fighting for life. And of course, the Pokemon greatly benefits from being with a trainer to get food shelter. Family, free healthcare, etc. Obviously, there are people who abusive to by you just have to give it. Obviously, there are people who will be funny. Everybody wants to find thunder down. They come into the thunderdome you know what is not in the thunder dome. A desolate wasteland where you have to kill for fuel. The dome is a great place. Certainly the arrangement where somebody performed slave labor for in exchange for food and shelter is not something that has any antecedent in human history. Certainly that's not an extremely upsetting arrangement that's ever occurred before. But anyway, I don't know if you guys know this, by the way, but in the original movie, piquancy, also died like thinks get dark. That was a cartoon for kids. Yeah. So it is almost exactly like MMA. Yeah, because I know all the Pokemon or are very well, paid and have independence outside their a wait. So anyway, many, many who's in the chat room right now, by the way, as broadcast right now. Mattie writes, in, in general battling is a mutual understanding between two species that are capable of events thought, I think, more interesting rabbit hole to go down. It's thinking about how tin Goodman, one of the main characters works in insurance insurance has to be a travesty in the Pokemon world exploding ducks dragons up breath fire. Poke him on the can cost psychic explosions, this Pokemon that literally has sized for hands. There's another procam on that puts children to sleep in each their dreams. How do you ensure anyone living in the Pokemon, Pokemon world is a never ending nightmare of potential final destination deaths. Anyway. Love the episode. Love the podcast and I love detective peak chew. Thanks, guys and quote. So that comes in from this Mattie, top ten all time emails, as far as I'm concerned, because it didn't even occur to me to go down this avenue. And it is it is right. It is ripe for, for, for juicy details. Yeah. Or insurance people in the Pokemon universe data. Has got to be a rough job or at least the premiums are to be just astronomical. If anything, I think that the movie detective, because you really under cells, how cruel and brutal this universe's, right? Like, because theoretically with these creatures that have superpowers got to think this collateral damage deaths, potentially even murders happening on a pretty regular basis. I mean, there's a there who literally walks around with a ticking time bomb all the time. You know what I mean? Like if you, if you had startle it gets too stressed out, it will explode. And that's just what she hangs out with all the time, not literally ticking time bomb, then. I was like that I miss ticking time bomb character. I mean it is a ticket bomb. But yeah, it's a metaphorically a ticking time bomb man, bend, settling, this will you murder lyrics? This doesn't surprise me though. So it kind of reminds me of powerless that short-lived NBC show about a superhero insurance. It was hitting the TC universe, with, like, Bruce, Wayne's cousin or something is the Larry's. So. Yeah. Insurance would be pretty unworkable. I'm actually pretty bummed. We don't get to see any of Tim Goodman's job. Right. Like what is his daily life, like, that's that's a move. You're right there. That would show that the, the put him on universe is indeed extremely interesting in one way, you would imagine it to be a nightmare job. And in another way shirt sells itself, you know what I'm saying? Like you gotta have it. The universe is fraught with peril. It's like you got your everyone's walking around with with massive weaponry in the form of volatile emotional creatures. So, yeah, I once was at a casino playing poker and struck up a conversation with the guy next to me, and ask them like what do you do for a living? And he said that he worked for a company that ensured insurance companies. Right. Like, like, sometimes like. Who watches the watchmen or? Like a mass casualty event or something like that, like could or like a huge earthquake or something could theoretically. Deplete completely the cash reserves of like many insurance companies, and so like if like, like millions of people filed a claim at once right like that would be disastrous for many companies. And so this guy. Ensured the insurance companies and I imagine in the Pokemon universe that the guy would also be doing pretty well so yeah, anyway. So that comes in for Matty, you can always run into session because she will come Jenny from Texas also wrote into custody Millicom, Jenny writes, in a longtime listener and wanted to read enough real quick after listening to your detective, because you review the most popular theory on why Pokemon fight is because they like to fight and wish to evolve for the most part. The only way to evolve the put him on gain experience and get stronger, Pokemon also shoes to be captured by the trainer, so they would not follow trainer. They didn't trust hope that cleared up one mystery and quote that comes in from Jenny from Texas. The dogs. So happy they hit the freedom to do this on their own as free thinking, individuals. I think you made the point during the pre show like a game plan that, that this is discourse course that's been going on in the Pokemon universe for quite some time that people have debated the autonomy of Pokemon for for generations at this point. And the fact that it's a kids game, I think is kind of a little disturbing to you. So there are certainly like the on company has all sorts of rules. Right. You'd never see, I think I mentioned this other review, you'd never really see people eating meat or animals. I think the ideas like everybody's vegetarian or something like it's there are a lot of rules in this world to make it not horrific basically. So people aren't eating their book. Mom's not more horrific. There's like an underground world of like Pokemon eaters in this universe. Oh, yeah. Put him on four. Okay. Anyway. Let's so you can always right? Into us at slash from catch evil dot com. We don't always get to read emails, but we always do read them, and so appreciate it every day. We don't you just said, we don't always read them. But we read them, we don't really don't always read them on the air as what it means. Right. But we always read them. Email box so size film cast edgy dot com is the address to send them to before we move onto our view. John wick chapter three. We've got to think all the people who donated to the podcast this week. We gotta think Lolo Vargas, films Douglas layered who gives a release super generous donation, David O'Connor, Michael Crowder, Anna Crowder, Amy Crowder, and Jessica Crowder, as well for their donations, and also. Dan, in London. United Kingdom wrote in this with his donations. He said, this is my first time donating or reaching out to you. But I've been listening to this, I guess, for years, and it was a TRS fan back in the day. The size from casts at the top of my feet. So I can listen as soon as your episodes, drop the thing that made me want to write in is to be an opposing voice to people that complain, I guess you could say my thoughts are best, subbed up in Limerick, politics is sometimes discussed we want to our movies to be just a vocal more minority complains, but the fact, simply remains individual Jeff and Dave, we trust. Done. Dan, Limerick seal of approval. So. Thanks for that Email, Dan and for the donation, if you want to support, we do here on the podcast and help us to defray the cost of seeing movies and putting on the show for you. You can always go to pay Pell dot ME slash film, CASAs, pay pal dot ME slash toward film, cash. You can also go to slash home dot com, click on the Sasha cast tab, and use the paper on the side of the page, never donate, if it in any way causes you hardship. But if you want to donate, and are able to do so without any impact, we'd really appreciate it. And if you don't have any money to donate, but want to support us, just leave her review for us on wherever your podcasts are downloaded that would be really appreciate it as well. Leave a little rating for us. It takes no time. That's how you can support us. Thanks for all the donations this week. Thanks for all the reviews this week. Let's get to our view of John wig chapter three. You have no idea. What's coming? Mr. Witt broke the rules. I trust you understand the repercussions if he survives. John excommunicate is now in. Shouldn't be here. Nice. Good to see you too. I need your help after this. We are less than he. There's no escape for you. The head table one seal. Would you help set the move from you? Guessed let us begin that was from the trailer of John wick chapter three and before we get into our non spoiler section of our view. We will say that, like in the non spoiler section of the John wick three review. We are going to be spoiling John wick one into. So if you don't want to know what happens in any of the John wick movies, you gotta teach doing here. Got a piece of are we I guess we are. But well, I kinda have to the placate way, the plot summary, here says, so here here it is. Here's comes to this John too after gunning down a member of the high table. The shadowy international assassin's guild, legendary hitman, John wick, finds himself stripped of the organizations protective services. Now stuck with a fourteen million dollar bounty on his head whic must fight his way through the streets of New York as he becomes a target of the world's most ruthless killers. Oh, you know, I think that number is a spoiler. I don't think we need that before, this movie is ruined for me. Good. By. All right. Well anyway, so John wick chapter three is out. And by the way, before we've been talking about the movie we should mention that this movie's box offer performance is incredible. I think the, the routing all of our summer, waiters. Yeah. So this movie, I think performed eighty seven percent higher than John. Wick chapter two, which is like the only time anything like that has happened is captain America. The winter soldier versus captain America civil war, and in that instance, you had to bring in, like iron man to make that happen. Right. Like the, the only time like a part three has grossed that much more than a part too, is, when like extraordinary circumstances occur and I don't know that this qualifies, this is just a movie that a lot of people wanted to see I think it's more like the phantom has had time to percolate people people have had time to, like, watch the first movie streaming, and John wick to in, like now it's its peak. Peak quick time baby. What's also extraordinary is like this. I don't think this movie has ever been on that flicks as far as I can recall. Right. Which is we're like I, I can't recall it being on a major streaming service. So people have found it on their own and, yeah, I drove it to fifty seven million dollar. Winning unseating avengers endgame. I knew I knew it was going to be big. When I tried to buy a ticket, and several screenings were sold out. And I was like, whoa. What detective pitcher wasn't like that? It was easy as whatever I wanted I could just walk in and either Whitman. Yeah. I couldn't believe it. You've never seen a movie like an entry a number three do this. Well, unless it's like an adventure film, basically. So that's extraordinary. And I'm actually feeling really good about my list. Because here's the thing, I chose rocket man as my number ten which I deeply regret and. The just the clear that the movies rated R. So there's essentially, no way that I'm going to get rocking the top ten. But if John wick comes along writing in on a horse through New York streets, and is able to get into the top ten which is very possible right now. That is like he is like an agent of terror in our lists that will really mess things up, and that is an agent of chaos, and that is what I need right now in order to win the movie wager. So I am rooting for John wick. Here's the thing, though. Unfortunately, I believe Jeff you chose it as one of your doors. I did. I did somebody else did too. Yeah. So. So that's really only gonna help me a little bit is what I'm saying if darker says, only one measly point still. Yeah. But still, yeah, it's, it's doing really well, and it has a chance of making the top in the summer. So we'll see. I don't I don't think any of us ever you know, obviously chosen but no one, put it on the top ten no one. What was the? So I think we was like, what eighty five million total? Yeah. I think. Right. That's that something around that and was tracking those numbers like this movie is not gonna reach like past one fifty or something. And now this weekend alone is ninety two was John. What do you guys think that this points to the fact that this is going to be an insane summer for? Yeah. Because for, for box office receipts in total, because we were already commenting, how it is just jam packed with movies that all should make in the like two hundred million range and now and this wasn't even one of the ones in our calculus. It's, it's wild. I don't know if I share your sanguine opinion, Jeff, I actually think this portends, that like it might be. It could be a bloodbath. And what I mean by that. Is that like people wanted a movie like John wick chapter three because they wanted something that was more real than like a lot of what is being offered to them? Right. Then avengers and Lion King Aladdin. And I think lying king is still going. To crush, like I think it's going to do really well, but, like I think the reason that mission impossible movies are really successful. The reason John wick is really successful is because people want to see the actor the actual person doing the thing. They want to see like that person doing the thing and believing it, and you don't think that's going to be the case for Aladdin. I don't think so. I don't think we'll Smith is actually genie. Unfortunately, so, so I don't know. I could see going both ways. I think you're you're very possibly, right? That, like maybe every movie is going to do well and a rising tide. Lifts all boats. But like it's also possible that John wick three is an aberration an anomaly, and that, like, the, this movie is going to do better than some of the other movies. We think are sure things so. Right. We'll see I could see going both ways and actually lean more towards the ladder. But yeah, we'll see. So don't wait up to three different your heart oil. Start with you. Your thoughts on John wick three para. Bellum absolutely loved it. This movie feels like a fever dream to me, mainly mainly because of Mark freakin decastro skies. I don't know if you had the same nineties experience, that I did. But I grew up watching all this guy's movies to give some context for this is that since I'm. I met Davinder over I wanna say fifteen years ago. Davinder has been preaching the gospel of Mark the casco's, right? Like ever since we were in college. You're like Dave. Have you seen any Mark to casco's movie? Have you seen? Have you seen brother wolf? Have you seen what is it? Only the strong. Have you seen like? And you would just Dave. Yeah. You just name like every Mark, so, so like, Davinder is like stands hard for Marcus who's for over a decade. Right. I believed in him, I was happy when he became the chairman an iron chef America, as also sad, because that portended like how badly his movie career reviewing, but he's been things he's done. Hawaii five o. He was on agents of shield, but his film career has kind of stumbled he is back in awesome in this movie. So I give this movie a ton of credit just for that, mainly though. I love this movie because it starts with exactly what John wick to didn't really have, which is stakes at the John wick to he lost everything, and I was eager for the past two years to see how he's going to get out of this mess. So I was really like I was on board completely with the narrative this time, it's too. It was like, you know, it continued from John with one, which I loved, but to basically, like, the, the continuing motivation to. Two is we blew up your house and also you owe was for this contract. So go do that thing far less exciting. I'd say this movie, he loses everything and everything's also so much more difficult to has beautiful is the action was in two. I did not really enjoy the fact that he got literally a bulletproof suit, you know, like everything felt a little too easy. Felt a little too matrix reloaded to me this movie. We still get that suit, but things get hard things get rough in. We see a lot things we've never seen before course action, the craziest knife fight I've ever seen in a movie. Let's see some of that stuff. But yeah, agreed that the axes are extremely ambitious and glad you liked this movie better than the last one Jeff Kananga, your thoughts on John wick, chapter three pair bellum. Well, Dave, I guess you could say my thoughts about John wigs repair Bom would best be summed up in the form of Limerick. What a shock. I've had a hard time finding glee in wick film shooting sprees, but that's kind of been solved because it's finally evolved to the cartoon it always wanted to be. All right. Interesting. Explain that Jeff cannata. I very vividly. Remember I was reviewing on the show when wick one came out. I don't remember what show I was being on. But I, I had very mixed feelings, watching wick one, because I think it came out the same week, it's kind of hard not to be the same week in this country but it was the same week as a big mass shooting, and I had that on my mind when I saw the first John week and I couldn't help but bring that into the theater with me, and it may it put a sour taste in my mouth for the for the joy that was supposed to feel in watching point blank gunshots to the face. And the sort of fetishes ation of guns that is the John wick series. And so the, you know, it was always over the top and, and. Heightened. But it did feel those the first movie in particular felt fairly grounded, you know, it was a it was a gritty sort of grounded thing with some over the top action we have gotten to the point now with the third one where we are in full looney tunes land, and I love it. I'm happy. I'm happy to be there. It is. It's Jackie Chan it's, you know, it is action that is creative and wild and unrealistic and cartoonish in the best possible way. It's an anime done live action. And I'm I'm down for that. I, I still think there there is this sort of love letter to guns that just hits me now in the age, I'm in, in the year that we are in as not something that is as fun as it used to be when I was a kid when I could watch. Rambo and just be like, yeah, I don't I don't feel that as much anymore just because the way the world works now. But this movie has so much fun in showing action sequences without guns defender, a reference state scene that I like to call the, the, the fight scene of infinite knives. That is. One of the most fun sequences I've ever seen in an action movie. And this movie is really clever. Really inventive. It demonstrates the fact that you can. You can come up with stuff. We've never seen before still, you know, even this, this point in, in cinema. When action sequences seem to be. Straining to find something novel at this movie finds four or five things. I'm just like wow. Wow, I've never seen that before and not because they're able to do stuff with CG although they are. But because, you know, the, the idea of the concept of it is novel, and that's really cool. The, the story and the world building is just has lost a last. It's mind it, I mean, we'll get to it in spoilers, but there's a whole detour into the desert that is like, what, what I don't get it. But this movie, the John wig series has become it's own sort of JAMES BOND, Ian, Luke, Luke penis. You know, in the in the sort of Roger Roger Moore ears, you know, and it's just like cartoon characters and that's kind of the fun. And I'm finally able to. Really enjoy most of it, because it it's it's indulging itself. It's not taking itself seriously at all. And it's having a blast and not trying to make me feel the weight of the violence, because it's now cartoony. Well, I am a little bit torn about John wick chapter three gents. I think there, I have to, I'm of two minds about it on the one hand fifteen minutes into this movie and is already delivered two of the most ambitious action sequences have ever seen in my entire life. Yeah. At least at least. And then, and that's just the beginning then goes onto like attempt to, to top, those action sequences, right? Not to mention there are some action pairings in this film, that I'm not going to give away right now. We'll talk about in spoilers, but that, like I it's like a dream come true. It's like if you're, you know, a kid and like thinking, like, what if so-and-so fought, so and so, like, that's what you would come up with right? At least I would some of the actual paintings that occurred in this movie. So it's like, wow like incredible action matchups that. I'm just so thrilled to be watching. On the other hand, it feels like a little bit of a missed opportunity. It feels like like you said, Jeff they decided to go full on cartoon and to me, it felt like that there was still another way they could have gone with this movie, which is like they could have gone to more grounded way. I remember listening to a QNA podcasts like Jeff Goldsmith podcast with one of the screenwriters talking about what the potential for the third film might be. And what he described. There was felt like it has much more emotional stakes than what was in this film and rewatching the first two in preparation for this discussion today. I was struck by just how many more characters there were in the first film that I cared about specifically, John Leguizamo is being kind of jumping, buddy. We're, we're as he anymore and. William Defoe had had this whole kind of, like friendship with John John wick, that I really appreciate it. And you know who just doesn't care about that stuff anymore? And I think that's just like mildly said, in the sense that, like, what I it'd be one thing, if the movie was just pure action like no plot. And just like, you know, the movie exists to deliver really beautifully choreographed well, lit nicely, like interesting we shot action, and that was it. But instead, it's replaced it with all this, in my opinion like master Pretoria plot about the high table. I it's just complete nonsense in my opinion. And like I mean, I just don't think any of it stands up to even the mildest of scrutiny as I am wondering, though, Dave, like, how does this compare to John to which I think you could play all this criticism sue, and it doesn't have like the more interesting elements of this movie like it doesn't even have the motivation down low? I think you're right about that. I, I think you're right. Like I actually liked this movie better than John wick to and looking back like compare comparing this, John wick to I think this is the much better movie, I guess, I kind of gave to a pass because, you know, the action was still pretty good, and it felt like they were trying to test the limits of the world. That's what like sure that he's like, okay, how if we dig down another layer into this world like how far can we go? And you know, different people find it to be different levels of satisfaction, or satisfying. And I it's clear looking back on it. That it's not that satisfying in terms of, like, what, like how interesting. That world is, I think this these series of films, are very enamored with this world. They're like, yeah, it feels very pleased with its own ass in terms of, like, oh, the continental and all this. And, and it's like is this kind of world where like if you start thinking about it even just a little bit like it doesn't really make any sense. And this would have believed that there is no one who isn't an assassin. Right. Yeah. Yeah. You know. And so, and so this movie in my opinion, Joel, Mick three had two choices. One of teachers. It can either go deeper into the world into this, like, you know, self wanker, which is what it did, or it could choose to be more grounded and, and have a story that had, like more emotional stakes. And it didn't do that. And I think that is a bit of a missed opportunity that being said, I did really enjoy the film. I seen it twice already. I welcome more John wick movies in the future. Like I look forward to seeing what kind of innovative action they can come up with. But at this point, like I'm kind of like emotionally and intellectually like checked out of the movie. Action films, though, as just pure action sequences that you could you could even excise out of the film and just watch on their own. This movie is better than both of the previous films hundred percent hundred percent agreed in terms of skill like be the inventiveness of the set-pieces, the choreography like it's all leveled up. I will say the like Dave, like I totally agree, the first movie is, is always, we'll have the more emotional sticks from because that movie spends half an hour where there is no no actual killing. It's just it's grief. It's less. It's John wick dealing with the loss of his wife and these asshole gangsters, who make his life. Hell. We're, I don't know if we'll get that again. Unfortunately, because of the way the, the momentum of movies has now we can't really do that again. Yeah. I mean, I think we could've. But you're right. Like it's very much like comparing die. Hard one wanted. I heard three right. I heard one like no action for like forty five minutes, and it's a setup like what is at stake who these characters are why we should care about what happens to them. And there are three I think is a great movies still, it's like nonstop like going from place to place defusing bombs literally, and that's kind of what this feels like it's like we kind of already built that we're like the, the, the level of emotional stakes that we've established we're never going to go higher than that. In fact, we're not even gonna meet that level again. Right. It's not about that, and it's not about that anymore. Not about that anymore. So it's kind of like comparing fast and furious. One to fest, the fear is eight. Another good comparison. Just got there really quickly. I will say, I, I think the stakes of John wick losing everything, like I for the first two movies. He's had this protection of this whole assassin society and everything he could get from the continental and all that stuff. He had a lot of concierge help. And I like the idea that he is starting this movie. He got what ten minutes he got, like a little time to run out and be free. 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Camera moves with multiple dogs coming from off multiple screen sides doing cool things that have to do it at the exact right moment. Or are you going to screw up this extraordinarily long take with actors doing all kinds of crazy things and explosions going off? And then you've got to trust these dogs to do this. Exact it's it was crazy. They say never worked with kids in animals. Right. And I cannot imagine setting up these scenes with with dogs. You know it. It is remarkable the dog stuff because. Well, first of all, I think they got the guy who did the who who worked with a dire wolves in game of thrones. They got him to do the dog training stuff. Think of the dire wolves in game of thrones is being, you know, wildly Corey again. The, the wolves trained enough to not kill anyone onset. And so but that's important. I think it's what's interesting about the way, this, this movie is shot is obviously, the, the director, Chad style. Ski he got his start in, in stunt coordination and being a stunt person. And what I love about the series of films, is that the, the choreography the stop work is what they want to show you, right? Like in other movies. It's like, oh, we want to show this person getting shot this person dying whatever, and the stunt work is kind of like an a, a kind of ancillary thing, like a bonus thing on top of that in this movie that is that is the meal that they're serving you is look at what these people have put them social, there's like a shot word. Jackie chan. Yeah, exactly. There's a show where at Grand Central station where Kano emerges from like the back the rear entrance of Grand Central. And he like he tackles a guy off of a bike, and then in the same shot titles. Another guy off the bike and then shoots him both in that like in one shot. And it's like, oh, my like in any other film, this would be ten shots in five seconds, man. But like they do it all one long continuous shot like pan from a threat. I'm just like why they did it to show you that these are real hits that they tried to be as practical as possible. And that ethos, infuses the entire film and is really to watch. Somebody tweeted something about his editing philosophy, too, like they never edit mid move. Like it's always at the completed moves you see everything that's actually happening as you would in the martial arts film, as you should. I saw I was watching the scorpion king was on TV recently. And man against remember that movie we have come so far, so far, when it comes to, like, action in big set pieces. And that was what maybe fifteen years ago, I forget. But yeah, yeah. This movie looks beautiful. I mean just. Yeah. You know, I it's, it's interesting the way that John wick fights people. I think they called it like gun FU or whatever it actually reminds me of like the gun KADO from equilibrium data baby fish and Bill action, film and. The way he takes down villains or henchmen is, is beautiful to watch, right? It's like it's like this dance it's not like they're talking about the difference between watching like I've watched a lot of like bonus content for this movie, and I was listening to the director talk about, like, in a real fight like the difference between like a real fighting choreography is like you try to, like, injure, the per- like you try to disable the person as much as possible in a real and in the John Wayne movies. There's a rhythm to be action scenes, right? It's like you know, hit hit hit like this. It's almost like a metronome like this kind of like a back and forth, like dance between the two people that are fighting. It's ballet that they got the belly imagery in there to, like, really, really showing us up front like what sort of choreography revealing with this one scene in that ballet sequence where a character takes off their toenail of one of the Bowery removes toenail and. Rewatch the first time I thought I saw it. I was like, oh, this is just kind of like a little disgusting touch. But the second time I watched it, it did occur to me that this is the movies way of telling you that, like people have suffered to bring you this art that you're watching, right? You know, like that all artists suffering, and that, like people have worked really hard to make this movie and you got to respect that to some degree, right? You gotta respect and to that end not enough can be said about Keanu. I mean the dude is a gifted physical actor. I especially at his age doing the number of things that he does in this movie we go on, and on about, Tom Cruise, and rightfully so. But Kano brings it in these movies, and in particular this one, I feel like he has more of that to do in this movie than he has had in any of the previous, and maybe even more than he ever did in any of the matrix movies. It's, it's a lot of physicality and a lot of him doing it. So it's, it's, it's, you know kudos to that guy is fifty four years old. Unbelievable and say I'm blessed. And but like when he's running, you can kind of see his age a little bit. Right. Like he kind of runs. Like he's really worn down through the rain. The those he's not running. It does seem like, yeah, he is. He's worn down there. I think maybe that's some of that is intentional. Yeah. No, no. I agree. I agree. It's intentional. I mean, I'm sure he could run faster if he wanted to. But, but also that that is what a fifty four year old person would look like running in that situation about Tom Cruise doesn't know how to run injured. That's right. He just runs beautiful. That's right. Beautiful. That's right. So here's one of the biggest problems in the movie from me, right? Like. The biggest issue emotionally in this movie for me is the Halle Berry, subplot Highbury is incredible in this film. She shows that she is just as skilled as, as John wick, right? He's awesome in this movie. And that's one of the awesome things about this movie. Is that like all the main stars right? Heli berry. Mark the casco's. Ken Reeves are all over fifty years old, and they're all showing you can still kick ass and look incredible doing it. It's the sparring life goals hashtag. Right. Also, great that the series is, like Etta point, where like I think Holly berry was just like I want to be a part of this. And I want to do the training like people want the trading, which is unique to like this whole series of films, and also, like atomic blonde. Right. The because Donald one they believe is that. Yeah, right. Yeah. I was listening to the director talk about it. And on the big picture podcast. They didn't interview with the director of John wick, three and talking about how like most people are like, oh, you're, you're shooting a film. Well, let's do like six weeks of training and he's like six weeks. I'm talking about six months of training and he got and it's like the first week of training is really fun. But then, like by month five when you're like driving to three gyms a day, spending two hours in LA, traffic, and then training for like eight to ten hours a day and you're exhausted. You're bruised or injured everyday. It's hard to spend time with your family. It's less fun for people, it's a huge sacrifice for people to do these movies, and for Kano to continue to do these movies, and it's all there up on the screen, but going back to the hip. I think I'm gonna miss, I think first of all she is completely forgotten after I thought we were going to come back to Halle Berry. At some point, we never do. I will I ran to the bathroom like right after that. So what happened like as he was getting to the desert, did they just say goodbye goodbye desert? And she just literally. Yeah. Really doing the thing that she was worried about that would put her daughter in dangerous. That's right. That's right. Yeah. The big the big moment is that she drinks some water and then spits it back into the bottle and gives it to him. Yes. That's the big moment that they have, which was dumb, and the whole idea that he goes, and the, the way to meet the person who's above the table, which is super not clear. Even what that means his walk in the desert until you can't walk anymore, and then keep walking. And then they'll either find you or they won't. And he takes that literally and goes and does it and it works. Some never crossed my mind that it wasn't literal, though. Jeff. Yeah. Like I always thought that that was actually what he is going back to weird legendary stuff. Right. This is like we're king. Arthur. Like dumb and I, I didn't buy first of all I didn't buy. Well, I didn't buy the adjudicator as being a real threat. Like sh she is seemed ridiculous. You like maybe somebody slightly stronger as an actress, there are accurately. I think the performer is Asia, Kate Dillon is fine it just like the formats, it was, I would say her market casco's kind of felt like they were in a different film. They were like in a much camp, even more campy version of this movie, then John wick three already is. And that the is performance did not work for me at all. But yeah, so then they show up and they meet the or John mic shows up and meets the elder who is, who is like eight years younger than John wick. So what was what possibly there's the movie doesn't care to establish. Why he is important. Other than people say he is important. There's that's the entire that's the entire mythology this movie, though, right? John Wickens important because everyone's afraid of him. And then he shows us why. But yeah but he shows us why. Right. This guy, there's no showing of why there's no reason he's out in the middle of nowhere. And yet, somehow is above all the goings on in New York like what I want. And then, and then the thing that he tells John wick to do is literally something that he could. It's not like you need to kill a thousand dudes it yet. Right. And you need to kill this one guy that we literally have, like a swat team five minutes away that we could just send to kill this guy, right? Right. And also. And in fact, the active sending you to kill him may in fact jeopardize that entire mission. Probably not a great plan to think of it not. I also not really. I don't wanna skip ahead too far. But I'm going to I don't buy the last double cross of. What's his name in Winston? Yeah. Winston that shooting him and knocking him off the building. I why he you have established that John wick is willing to go to war with you, and for you, you've established that you have you guys are actually friends and you had multiple opportunities to save face with the high table and keep stay alive and just murder John John wig. And you have multiple times said, no, I'm not gonna do that. And now for no reason whatsoever. Even though you have the upper hand you decide to kill him. I got the feeling that he kind of knew he would survive in the movies defense. I think it's possible that Winston, you John liquid survive. So he knew that shooting him and knocking him off a multi multi-storey building. Yup. Yeah. Don wick is. He killed three men with a pencil, okay? Babo Riley of Riley. Although here's what is weird to me is at the end of John wick chapter two or during John mcdevitt, you, there's a pretty awesome sequence where he's like meeting the gun, Somalia and meeting, the Taylor, and he's like, what kind of what kind of state do you want tactical? And it's like this suit has, like bulletproof lining sewn into it. And then later on he meets the elder gets a new suit, but apparently, that's suit also has the bulletproof lining. So I just like a standard thing now, I've only upgrades, the elder come out. I agree with you, that, like the idea of John wick, having a bulletproof suit is kind of lame. But this movie, I think they showed that the, the knives, first of all it may be bulletproof not quite knife roof. But the idea when they got those super super armed soldiers that was in that was like, okay. Oh, things were difficult again. You have to like it. Yes. The headshot like five headshots. And it's like it's a struggle shoot. I like like that struck neck or use a shotgun. So that was interesting. I like I like the movie did. Interesting idea had interesting ideas from the action perspective. Also a scene inspired by the villainous. I think with the motorcycles, right. Which is. Yeah. Which was vigorous movie of twists when he won the summer movie wager. In a huge anomaly, welcome guys. You're welcome. You're prepared for John wick three. I think that the villainous did it better, but it was very cool sequence. John wick for sure. Well, when he the guy he cuts off his arm, and the arm gets stuck in the motorbike wheel. And that's incredible. I think they're both peoples. Did it pretty well, but villainous does a lot more? CG. Trickery. A lot more camera tricks to make that look like people were actually writing a bike since we're fighting worries this movie it looks like they were definitely writing down the highway quite a bit. So, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, the camera was doing some pretty impossible stuff. So I, I don't know how they actually did it. But and big shout out to all this asan's who want to kill John wick, but not at the expense of killing a horsey. You know. Yeah. You gotta have standards. You know what I'm saying? It's the rate guys I love how respectful they were. During. The main villain from the raid one end to. Fight. John Wiggins movie, and that is awesome and yeah, I love how respectfully they were of him. And also it felt good to me that, then he didn't kill them after he defense. You know. Yeah. That felt good to me. So, okay. But back to the Halle Berry stuff. Here's the thing that really bothers me of Highbury stuff is we've just had this whole speech that Halle Berry gives about how, like I can't have these people finding my daughter, and I'm thinking to myself as the last eight is some trouble in my life. Okay. And I'm watching this, and I'm thinking like okay like wow. The actual emotional stakes. Maybe we're gonna meet the daughter like it's going to be you've you've got my you have my curiosity now. You have my John wick daughters, right? Yeah. Some of that. And then then she just goes, and then proceeds through jeopardize all that because of her dog, which on the one hand consistent unwanted inconsistent with John McGuinness. But, but, like the reason John wick destroyed Michael Nyquist entire organization in John one is because he had literally nothing to lose. He lost his wife. He his dog had been murdered. So I believe that that character. Would be like, you know, f it, I'm just going to take down the organization, but you've already set up Halle Berry as somebody who gives a crap about something other than herself. And so, then the idea that she would just then like shoot Braun from game of thrones doesn't scan for me. At least not, not if you want me to take emotional seriously in this universe anymore, which I don't think it does it feels like they kind of did it just for the joke to like, just for John. What to say? I get it. It's a pretty good gag. You know, a lot of people laughed. But I mean, if you if you named this, this series ah dog's journey, that'd be fine. You know. Yeah. Yeah. So that was that was a big this woman, and kind of, like the, the biggest weakness of the film, for me is like the one stab it has of like making this, something that I actually care about character. I care about what the history care about it completely drop Sibal that said, the, the Sav on that wound is in follows that scene up with one of the most patacula action sequences I've ever seen, which is the, the dogs are. Yeah. Ashtec worth. Hashtag worth. What do you mean? It was worth worth vision. Worth worth the, the, the complete fucking of the logic. Complete, you know ruining the logic of any of character motivation, just to get to that action sequence. It's like who cares? We just got to see that. Also it occurred to me that maybe we could do a good. Boom goes the dynamite with movie came out this weekend, where a dog affects the life and death of many people, but enough about John wick. I wanna talk about dogs, way home at Waco. I'm composing on the fly. Yeah. Also sure you're talking about a dog's journey. Please get that don't know the difference between the dog movies, which is apparently about the multiple lives of. The same soul moving across different dogs and very dog reincarnation. That's right. Yeah, that's weird. I don't know. Anyone we don't need to talk about that. Go ahead of it. There is not enough Mark the casco's talk here and say, I love him so much like he is kind of channeling no, Hank from bury a little like his fan blowing is. Yeah. Same comes in an odd time really late in the movie. Have you seen him for a long time before that quality comes up? But it's welcome when it does. And here's the sushi. Chef by the way, I do kinda love that his character. Basically introduces ninjas into the John universe, which is good. Nice to have some Asian representation in the series too. But also ninjas like they're, they're so like beyond the all the gangsters in like all the henchmen like they are just tearing people apart coming in from the shadows. I like that. We can still escalate the insanity in this world with people like them to Seton when he makes the scary sushi for the lady, and she eats it if that was supposed to make me think she was bad as it failed completely agree. Two hundred percents like pretty pretty rough. Yeah. And also, what's weird about that scene is don't even explain that the in the pufferfish there is a portion that isn't poisonous right? So they didn't even set it up correctly. It's poised. This is like, all right. I'm gonna eat it. You know, it's like no, you it's poisons if prepared incorrectly. Please get the sushi law. Correct, john. What is the economy of this assessment world if these literally three of the most bad ass people on the planet need to be working at the sushi stand, you know, like the can't? You know, like the can't nice skills that man big. Yeah. You know, they got they got gotta be working sushi all the time pretending to be this, like speaking, broken English anyway. Those gold coins. I, I was going to say those gold coins. Can't be taken everywhere, but evidently, they can because every cabdriver knows them, evidently, other me. I don't think we needed that, but okay. I like what Twitter user at four wonder said about Mark Dacosta says character he said on Twitter today. Quote is marked a casco's John wick three character a perfect metaphor for modern fan, boys. And then he has a bullet list here fought over the IP demand. They recognize you as creative equal, troll them and set out to destroy the thing you claim to love Phil miserably yet insist they validate your existence. And I thought that was his name zero so zero not an accident. I don't think so best line in the movie was when he's like I was pretty good fight. When he when that character says that pretty good fight. That is basically what any online internet like any like hashtag releases. Snyder cut person is thinking when over escaping argument about why Warner Brothers do right by the fans. So anyway, any other thoughts on John chapter three. I think it was a great time. I can't wait to get watch it again on home video. It's a good sit. I say he give sakes by the way. I kinda love that all of John mix. Friends ended up paying for his indiscretions to this movie really stacks up. Oh, there are consequences to this, you know, insane violence, basically. And that's part of the stakes building to me. No, nobody should have helped him everybody who helps him suffers, and he does nothing for them. Also jail Houston. Didn't mention her. But so good so good. Yeah, she's all and. And there's a scene when the ninja rating Anjelica Houston's Lehrer as it were. And there's like a scene with these, like, three dudes the it's like Mark the casco's guys from the rate like walk onto the stage clad entirely in black, and it sounds dumb. It's, it's beautiful though. What are they, what are they what are they doing? Brace. That that's seen that shot Jeff, I think encapsulates everything about the film. And if you listen to Dorothy is talking about the movie it really feels like, hey, that looks cool. Let's put it in the film right like and, and that's fine. Like I, I enjoy that. But like, but then, that is that is the level of seriousness that this series aspires to. And that's how serious I'm gonna take it from now on, you know, like I'm not gonna as shit. Yeah, this is what it's it's explicitly asking now. Also also every future, John, wick movie, there's going to be some poor CG Artis to us to erase one of counties fingers from every shot. That's rough I was thinking about the logistics of that for a while. I think it was kind of interesting when he like takes off his ring, and his ring finger, and it's like he's like, prove your worth, and he like takes off the ring for years, and the elders like, oh, I just I just wanted you to like yourself or something. It's like how did he know that, that is that is that a unwritten rule that they need to go and remove a finger? I guess it's all unwritten everything is couched in years of tradition in this losing fingers is a common thing in this Asan lower. So I guess I guess it works out. I don't know does that hurt his gun handling or anything, though, the left hand, and it's useless finger thanksgiving, not as gun hand. So he'll be just fine. He'll be just fine. You'll looking forward to John wick chapter four, which seems a sure thing now with Laurence Fishburne the homeless person king. Now going like this. That's actually another frustrating thing about this movie is like, in my opinion, this movie, basically. The, the, the state of play at the end of John MC. Three is what I thought it would be at the beginning of John wig three. I thought like oh, he's taking on the high table. Like that's what I thought it was gonna happen in this film. But now he's really doing it this time you're looking forward to it you psyched. I mean, it'd be fun. Yeah. I mean, I think this series now is is has defined its terms. And I'm in it for the action sequences I want clever. You know, novel action sequences, I'm looking forward to it. I don't want to get too big. That's the thing I don't want this to become like a huge one hundred and fifty billion dollar you know, series or something for budget. They need to stay nimble need to stay kind of. I, I think that helps a series like this for sure. I don't know. Man, I kind of feel like the fact that we went to Morocco I feel like it's going to be one of those things now like in JAMES BOND, and fast and furious where you get that, that big wide shot. And then the text on screen that says, you know, Shanghai or wherever the know wherever we are next it's, it's TV shows can do it on a cheaper. But I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. Yeah. What's, yeah. I, I agree that I don't want this series. Big either what's fascinating to me is like how effortless to the to the film? I've been complaining about the movie, but to its credit how effortless it made coming up with these inventive actions scenes feel like 'cause they deserved it. We, we have collectively between the three of us. We have watched thousands of action scenes, right? And thinking, like, okay, we basically know what an action scene can contain right. And this movie said, no, this things that you didn't even think about that. We have in this movie, and I'm curious how long they can keep keeping up that trick. And I'm gonna keep paying money to see. So that's gonna leave it there. All right. Well, stay tuned. You will be discussing next week five more episodes as podcast aside from guests dot com. Emails asides from Casteel dot com, our theme song comes from Adam Warlock dot com or a. Spoiler. Number comes from filmmaker Kyle Hiller. This episode was produced by babies Zang until next week to finger orchid people. 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John Ourand of Sports Business Daily and Turner Sports NBA analyst Stan Van Gundy

Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

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John Ourand of Sports Business Daily and Turner Sports NBA analyst Stan Van Gundy

"Everybody. This is Richard I welcome to the sports media podcast producers our Patrick than. Shaun Cherry two guests this week I up he regular on his podcast rant. From the Sports Business Daily and Sports Journal, and we have discussion on. And above your ship. We head to. The the one third part of the season what we can shrapnel from the numbers why the League is. Absolutely. Overjoyed at this point even though. The numbers are down. We go a little bit into NBA viewership dominated a major of podcast coming up in the next couple of weeks on sports viewership overall. So I'll get a lot into the NBA. On on that one and So John and I would the some viewership talk and then that's followed by Stan Gundy the. Former coach, of course in the NBA now working as an excellent analyst for Turner Sports on. Their coverage of the NBA Stan also does some stuff for NBA TV as well, and we get into stands experience in the bubble. What. That was like spending time with his brother Jeff Van Gundy of course, is the lead analyst on ABC's. Coverage in just finished up the NBA finals and then Stanley get into really what I thought was excellent discussion just about being public about the the nexus of sports in politics and racing social justice. Standing Gun is one of the most public people certainly on his twitter feed when it comes to discussing these issues and and I was just curious about You know why he's been. So Public House employer sees it Just sort of how he thinks about that that that nexus and and that was a really interesting discussion so. John Randy, start, and then standing on the coming up on the sports media. PODCAST. All right as I said at the top Joan are end is a sports media reporter for the Sports, Business Daily and Journal, and he is kind enough to join me again he's a regular on this. We're GONNA keep him pretty short today. No need to go. So long with, I'm sure he will be back over the next couple of weeks so. We'll try to give you like twenty twenty minutes herself of Sports sports, media talking, and this will not we will not be dropping public relations names on this one John we're not going so deep inside baseball no more PR NAMED DROPS I'm tired of getting emails from those Richard No more this is very will be very, very broad here. All right. So let's start with the NFL John. People. Loved. Talking felt viewership. I I apologize for laughing but like I've told this job privately never in my lifetime that I think sports viewership numbers would become politicized but but but but they have. But in this case, four weeks in. NFL viewership is down ten percent based on. The reporting and from your colleague Austin Carp That's before Thursday bucks game so that number may actually be a little bit even further down as we're talking here could be like nine percents, eight percent as John Tape, and we don't have the results of week five Sunday yet, and so we'll see how this all shakes out. But so John here's my thought here. Television executives have told you and others that lake they are really pleased by the fact that the league's only down ten percent and I'll be honest like, I think a lot of times like you know people spin the hell out of stuff. But in this case, like I actually think that is a fair assessment given the landscape given all the sports competition given the crazy amount of news that exists in how much cable news up I think if you're the NFL, the most powerful entertainment medium right now that exists on linear television being down only ten percent I think a win. How do you sit? I think it's a huge win and I think that comparing readings out for the for the NBA I mean you're comparing in October versus June you're comparing in October against college football, the NFL and Major. League baseball playoffs including the the Yankees in there versus June, which is going up against regular season baseball I feel like I just don't think any comparison works as here I don't think we're going to have a comparison until probably twenty. Twenty two but I think that there are certain things that are really the neak about the TV ratings numbers that are coming out. Now 'cause all sports are playing and you're able to see for me how dominant and we've always done the NFL was the highest rated I visit the Super Bowl. What else gets a hundred million viewers out there. But here we're actually seeing how dominant the NFL is up against. You know they they had A. A regular season Sunday night football game against the NBA finals and destroyed it I mean it is. So it is so far ahead of where the NBA is. It is so far ahead of where M, B. Is it's so far ahead of where NHL is it it's just a different on TV programming stratosphere I think that's that's been particularly interesting. Go take a look at a hundred percent. Agree I mean honestly there's NFL content and then like. Just. Drop down and then. Then have a discussion on everything else. One of the charge that was in sports business daily that it's not like I didn't know this. But when you see it in chart form, John, you're like Holy Shit that is impressive thirteen of the top fifteen broadcast since March, our NFL related NFL games the only to correct from. But I don't think I'm wrong here the only two that beat it the vice presidential debate and the presidential debate. So thirteen of the top fifteen broadcasts on television since the pandemic started. NFL programming. I mean that that is remarkable. Correct. NOT JUST NFL program regular season Games. And that's a that's also what's instructive that it's all of TV. So this trend that we've seen happening over the past decade maybe a little less live sports live news it. It really is what matters so people can jump up and down and I know we're GonNa talk about a little bit about the NBA numbers but it the NBA is still bring in more than any entertainment programming out there right now it's it's live sports live news matters. So despite the the the viewership drawbacks we've seen in the NBA and and in the in the NHL, it's still TV networks still view that as such powerful programming and they're they're they're going to be fine. There was something that you had in one of those pieces that I thought was really interesting. I it was probably your newsletter were you said, or you reported that the NFL's top media executive Brian Roll Up. Sent a memo to teams telling them not to be overly concerned about ratings. I found that as really good piece of reporting there unless. Unless that was public but I, don't think it was but that was that's really interesting to me because obviously the NFL is very very heightened when it comes to viewership all of these leagues are I mean all these public relations departments. They know what the viewership is they'll they'll reach out to reporters to try to spin. But I found that interesting John that memo went to teams basically saying, Hey, we're in an unprecedented time here. Don't freak out if. One of our windows down fifteen twenty percent. Yeah and I think part of it is because everybody's going nuts I mean I. I've been writing about TV ratings and it's been getting so many clicks on our website I mean people are are so thirsty for this. Now, for a any kind of information on it and I think that that's sort of what got the NFL to send out that memo. In. Perfect in a normal world with no pandemic and the the sports schedule being as it usually is the NFL was looking at taking up extent back viewership. Wise. This season because it's it's lost viewers it's. Bureau drop. Every presidential election going back probably the last five, six elections I I don't have the actual stat in front of me. It that was part of the message role APP was giving. We were expecting a drop. The drop is calm and the trumpets come not just because of that but a-, but also because of all the different competition. So the NFL is really hurting the NBA numbers in the NHL numbers but the any killing numbers in the NHL. NBA. Numbers are taking viewership away from the NFL to just not not not not as much So they're just getting hurt from different areas I think being down ten percent. There's something I know that there pretty happy with I. Think it's it's a pretty good number for them. So. Let's talk about this. I D do You we are in a hyper new cycle. It's not just another presidential election. It's a it's a it's an it's an insane hyper new cycle. which is really kind of lasted in all honesty for the last three and a half years or so. Is there. Any way not necessarily let me phrase it better. What is your sort of best guess over the next two months because while the election is as we tape this, you know in less than a month, the post-election news I don't think is going to is going to subside. So my sense John would be that the the cable news numbers from now until whenever you know December or so are going to be. Are just going to be astronomical I mean who knows I don't even I wouldn't even begin to predict what the news of the country will be. So if you just extrapolate that further I would think that that's going to overshadow almost everything in any sports outside of the NFL that comes in that that timeframe is going to be impacted by this you agree potentially I think a- everything depends on the noble right now, which is, will we know on November third? The next president of the United States is if we do know that than than it should. Be Good for the NFL I mean the NFL shoots should see a resurgence are going for. If we don't know that all bets are off I, mean th th. Then we're entering territory that you don't have any cops at all. What are you say? Oh, well, back in two thousand, you know two or two, thousand or two, thousand four. Something happened. One other thing to keep keep in mind is four years ago. That was that was a trump's I go at the White House and the news networks saw such a huge rising viewership, and the NFL during that election cycle was down fourteen percent well, this year they're only down ten percent. So they're actually doing better this year and it's a part of that might be you know the lack of undecided voters like people have. I know so many people that have already voted I know people that have made made up their mind for years ago about who they're gonNA vote for in this election so that that that may play into a part to where they're not going into a took watchers much cable news as they had passed. So it's it's unknowable but I, think that there are some signs Jesse but the college football and the NFL are going to fair. Okay. In the next couple of months. L.. E. Lifestyle should be easy. Right? Eat veggies drink green smoothies exercise to get your heart rate up. Do Yoga Ring your heart rate down. Who are maybe not so easy. But there is something that helps improve everything and you can do with your eyes closed. It's sleep. Sleep number knows what it takes to sleep your best and the sleep number three, sixty smart bed. Let you choose your ideal firmness comfort and support on each side your sleep setting. It's the perfect solution for couples. These are so smart. 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Significantly in terms of in terms of viewership whether that number forty percent or fifty percent, it's going to be down for the series You can't spend it. Those are not good ratings. Lebron James in the finals even if we're in a pandemic, even if we're in. Uncharted. Waters those were not expected numbers. Those were not good numbers. Here's the most sort of to me. Here's the sort of most important thing. And and a couple of weeks I'm going to do a really long sports viewership podcast with some experts and will really analyze no fence John you're not part of that. And so. So, my thought and I think both this is where me and you me and you do not always agree on viewership but I am positive me and you agree on this. Is Never, one factor it is always multiple factors. It's television factors it's competition factors. Do I think there are some people who are turned off by the politics and social justice. Of course, do I think it's a like statistically wash large swath? No I do not others do. So do you have at least some top-line thoughts John as to As to NBA viewership in the bubble and the numbers that we we ultimately saw if I had to take a guess, you know, maybe that's Sunday night game finishes with like nine million viewers or something like that. Where obviously in in other clinching games we've seen like eighteen, million, seventeen, million, nine, hundred, million. Yeah. It's. So. I'm going to try to do a little bit of spin on because it is so hard The NBA playoffs NBA finals. Are Not held in October they're a different Th, there's a way way that most sports viewers, especially casual sports sportscars. Attack the the sports calendar and and right now as getting cooler out, you know you have a college football, your Major League baseball playoffs and and and you have the NFL and if anything you have a couple of regular season basketball games. So I just think that there there are There's so much competition right now the there's competition from from news as we said from the NFL that it is so hard to take a look at the NBA numbers and and really. Decide HOW'RE Y. Anything matters right right now I. Think it's GonNa take a you know next year it's going to be an abbreviated season almost certainly It's GonNa take another year until we get an actual comp that said. The numbers going into the bubble, their numbers going into the Pan Pandemic for the NBA or miserable this year they were down. Every everything was done really significantly and there there are a lot of reasons for that one is. The the Lakers are Primo team, but they're west coast based team. So having sort of you know the the heat had proved to be a team the Celtics are fun team, but they didn't show that in in the regular season it took a while for people to get to know them. Your best teams out West does. Not Translate to great ratings for for various leaks. There needs to be a little bit more parody as there has been in the past and having what Brian and Miami or having what and Cleveland just giving you east coast window of guaranteed ratings. Gutteridge. Is is so important having a cord cutting is a with cable for TMZ. Completely, the NBA has a really. Good demos, young male, and those are the ones that are cutting the cord. Those are the ones that are not watching full games and and they're watching elsewhere. I I can I can do this I can go we can come up with a list of ten reasons for why the ratings were down but it is something that's very concerning to the NBA. It's something that they're going to be taking a look at the numbers coming out of the bubble. Nobody knew what to expect them to be They're probably lower than I would have predicted. That I. Think I don't think. That they really not. It's interesting like again I. Think. They expect you did you the NBA spent so now after you throw me off here So, like everything said like to me is is correct and again I don't. WanNa go so deep into this because I'm really going to do like an hour plus podcast on. On sports viewership but. They have viewership problem at the moment, and they can't ignore that and some of the things that caused the viewership problem I think are a little bit self inflicted including their absolutely fucking shitty response to China that start. That's said if you're going to be honest and if you're GonNa do good faith I do agree with John this is such an outlier year you can't do specific apples to apples comparisons on everything and they there are real things that are on court things that I think if they change I think can be a jump I'll tell you one thing John that I've always said this I talked to Austin Carpet And Anthony Creepy about this and I know you'll appreciate it because you're someone who loves to look at sort of local ratings to to get a better sense of what's going on nationally the NBA is absolutely fucking killed by the fact that the Knicks and the Bulls have sucked for a long time they get nothing out of New York and Chicago both in terms of those local