27 Burst results for "John Mara"
"john mara" Discussed on You Better You Bet
"Oh yeah get pissed baby. I'm furious right now at the new york football giants. I really am. I've loved this team for over thirty years. My favorite team growing up. I've tried after losses. I've tried after wins. Always been my favorite team in to watch the state that this team has degenerated into where the cleveland browns. This is on you. John mara. We're the cleveland browns. Worst record in football from two thousand seventeen to present day we are the new factory of sadness you know what they produce the factory heart wrenching losses on only good. We got duck when you think.
"john mara" Discussed on The Dan Patrick Show
"That's going to be tough with the amount of weapons that they have but can he impact player. Can he be a player to where you single up. He goes each you. Yes he's going he's going to win. He can get back to that player and he will get back to that player sheer. That's a that's a claim is is oh bj. Absolutely i think he's one of the most dynamic talents that i've seen we've have the pleasure to witness kovacs when you play position. We know how hard it is for him to do. What he's done coming at boy could flat out play man he can flat out play man but it all comes down to being health. You can't be best and an and be the best in the world if you not healthy to be able to go out and do what you want. Gotta do i wanna see high comes out. No dishes and plays out the evangelist. Because luckily for me. I was blessed. I i didn't never had a acl or re. In twelve years. That i was playing. So i don't know how difficult it is to come back from that but his plan style. Those are some of the kind of things you worry about because you know how explosive years. Anything's i'd likes to do. Get those breaks planning different things of that nature but listen the are star man he. He's an elite wide receiver. When he's healthy he's one of the top five in the world. There's no question about it. It's not even debatable. But he just has to get back to a point to where he's healthy and he's playing great office. He has jobbers legend besides his college. Roommate when a healthy depositi best doing football but baker mayfield has to be able to get these guys football so the talent show. I believe he will get back to being. Odell beckham jr bat. We know if he's healthy. And i defer to you guys on this obviously because you guys were were high level receivers. But i'll just give my my two cents. He's twenty eight twenty eight years old. Receiver seem to do better with their than most other position. You guys are real stuck up and like self absorbed type of dude so you guys are all the way in on you. Wait till this guy. I feel like you guys are are really into like exercise and then doing like aerobics and yoga. And all that stuff getting your toenails and fingernails and your eyebrows and eyelashes done. It would take you bake right right so listen i. I don't necessarily find myself wanting to go down the road saying at twenty eight years old. You're too old. you know we. We have seen how har- odell beckham junior works to to prepare himself for seasons. You know my biggest concern or question to or or you know i guess contribution to the conversation would be emotionally and mentally. I wonder where obi jay is at this point..
"john mara" Discussed on The Dan Patrick Show
"Welcome back into the show. You're listening to the dan. Patrick show dan and the crew are off. Today it's up on game fellas up in haired filling in doing our thing. Summertime is coming to an end. people have started back in school is all kinds of different things going on. But we're here today. We're talking sports. Just a few guys is chopping it up. Dan is getting a little bit arrest so our before we went to break we we talked about. Ob jay is. He still owe bj or is he now. Just odell beckham junior. That's a receiver in the league. I wanted to pose this question to to you guys especially as elite receivers with great airs And in great great Hands and if you missed that make sure you go check out. The podcast would be on the dan. Patrick show and if you miss anything that we talk about you could go to up owing game. Podcast as well anywhere. Where you download your podcasts. Make sure you check us out but guys you know. Jay has had a rough tumultuous last few years in the league especially dealing with injuries We all know that he burst onto the scene. With the one hand catches totally changed the culture of catching. Footballs at this point. I hear everyone say every single day out of football practice. Use both hands That that's that's a product of the ob j. affect This this young man became more than a football player. He became of a rockstar. That play football transcendent talent transcendent influence but has not been an elite guy for quite some time now baker mayfield. He seems to have come Leaps and bounds further as as a quarterback more confident in his his play more confident in himself Midseason towards the end of the season. This past year. They had their best run in quite some time. Lbj comes back. Can he fit in and become an elite receiver again at this point in his career absolutely. He's been nicked up when you look at his career number one when you start and you get drafted by the new york football giants. You're automatically on a platform but he did work on that platform dude as a rookie at ninety one catches ninety one catches. That's not easy to do. Twelve touchdowns excel okay. I'm gonna follow it with ninety six catches thirteen touchdowns all follow that up with one hundred one catches in touchdowns and then the following year. He gets hurt in so he's only had two years without a thousand yards to two years. In both of those seasons one was last year in two thousand seventeen was when he was with the giants when he got hurt. So when he's healthy he's going to give you a thousand yards. The differences is to catch his touchdowns. Aren't there but he was when he was with the giants team. They weren't winning as many games. The cleveland browns now are winning games. Can he get back to ninety catches fourteen hundred yards..
"john mara" Discussed on The Dan Patrick Show
"Here's my point lead here all right. We're hinting at the fact that a tom brady or philip rivers or jj watt isn't going to get called for taunting penalties. I look at that as those are megastars but it just happens to be connected to something else you we do realize the word that is shot out there so much on the football field. Yes we do know this. We do like taunting or talking. My idea of it is that is a word that makes people very very uncomfortable. And and and and just to get you guys. Put it in context if somebody's talking trash as they use the ninja work. Like you know like yeah. You like ninja ninja ninja ninja engine. You punk ninja you. You know soft ninja engine that right the language that is used on the football field. It's very it's relatable two. Pm is very relatable to where we come from is unbelievable that come out of people mouth. Hey turn that's what you here and it's almost like you get a path between what one pm four pm to basically say what say whatever they do. Any dish should not be appointing emphasis. It's gonna cost somebody. It's gonna cost the personal jess. I understand but there's no way i could have played. There's no way. I could have played the game of football without talking trash for me. It was a psychological advantage..
"john mara" Discussed on The Dan Patrick Show
"I experienced it towards india career and when they felt you couldn't play anymore. Ali experienced did in college me and joe always on the best terms in fact. In fact there's there's crazy stories about that's documented me and joe's relationship. That's why penn state sucks. Come on man. Come on and look here man dude. That's why we won't do on your your mortgage era. We didn't win a good player. Man coaches and just they treat you different they treat you get away with certainly should get away with it. But that's the point you know if somebody coach treating you good because you can player. They're treating you good because they genuinely are people who believe in people. That's what i'm trying to say. I'm a urban. Meyer believes this. The thing no urban meyer. Because of his relationship with tibo in what urban meyer saw when he coached him the leadership the desire the heart the want to. He said you know what i can give him a chance. Because i know he's gonna give it all he's gonna get his. I know that for a fact if he's not good enough he's just not good enough but that desire and want to. I'm not going to question that. Because i know he's going to give it to me. If all the council. Where everything. That i've heard tim. Tebow is one of the hardest workers and practice and games and all that and just like. Tj said. he knew that he was coming to one. Hundred and ten percent and whip that hundred ten percent being given you know he. He was gonna decide his own fate. You just look at it and see that you know. He just wasn't nfl tight end but as far as lavar just talking about maritime coffin didn't didn't have a great relationship it was opening the public and people knew that we didn't have a great relationship..
"john mara" Discussed on The Dan Patrick Show
"To do it as former players and now as as people who analyze it and see it as as a former guys and experts do you do you believe that urban meyer felt as though you know he was he was making a mockery of of the game by by tibo being brought in as a player. How how. how do you think that that made them feel. How do you guys like. What do you think. The interpretation of it was is the i. Guess what i'm trying to get to. Was the damage already done when he brought him in and he actually was able to make it this far because there are a lot of guys out there that are super talented. Gifted that are sitting on couches wondering if they're going to get a call and if they're gonna get an opportunity to to try to prove it. I mean we've heard some really really insanely intense stories about guys being homeless. I will play football for food. Different things like that and and they ended up getting an opportunity. And it's like they make the team they. They actually made the best of the opportunity. Tim tebow gets the job. Everybody's talking crazy. He doesn't deserve it. He should be here so and so forth. I just wonder if you're a player. How are you looking at urban meyer. It did did. He already do damage to himself in that locker room. Possibly by even giving him as much of a chance as he's given to tibo before the releasing no at least not for me. This world is built on. Who you know tim. Tebow new people which was urban meyer particularly. That was able to get them signed and could that opportunity in should it have gone to someone else probably so but it didn't it. Didn't it went to tim tebow. He didn't take advantage of it. You move on. It happens like people in you know. They're low..
"john mara" Discussed on The Dan Patrick Show
"Is this a joke going. On in jacksonville it led me to believe with. If you guys were not aware out there. Tim tebow has been released. He has been released from the jacksonville. Jaguars i i. I'm so interested to hear what you guys have to say about. This did he have. Did he have opportunity did did he. And i know people will say you know. Hey you know wasn't fair. i'm wondering and what it's worth. Did he have a fair opportunity to make the team in jacksonville. Oh he had more than a fair chance to make that team and you know of crazy. Man is when cyncial that video. I didn't know it was going to go. Viral like that I think i just sent in just like oh my god next thing. You know that they went viral. It went viral real quick. Tibo just wasn't ready to play that position. Like i don't care who you are mad when you gotta go block. Guys like khalil mack. Tj watt in as to god. Somebody lyman camp blocked up right. They gotta go block he. You and ofensive lyman. Struggle to block these do's and you would expect former quarterback to do it. He was fighting pill he got himself cut. Urban martin cut him. He had no choice. Like when you watch that. The save credibility i'm talking for urban meyer. Within that team. He had no choice. He had no choice in for tibo. It sucks because you have a dream and you wanna go. siamese tidy. yes. I'm making the team. Guaranteed us what he thought and then when the pads came on he probably said no. This is harder than i thought because what we saw on tape guys been doing that in practice every him. they'd be doing that in practice everyday. He wasn't even on special teams are no wow. He wasn't even on any special teams. He played zero special teams snaps. So that lets you know your fourth string. Tidying june no special teams..
"john mara" Discussed on The Dan Patrick Show
"This is not dan. Patrick voice lavar arrington voice. And i have my man. Tj cushman's oughta emma the ga stretch armstrong himself plaxico birds. This is up on game crew. We're actually filling in for dan patrick into danettes. They're taking a little bit of our in our time and we're going to do our best to fill in. So yeah. that's a game show for the dan. Patrick show today so we're excited to get in here. Get you guys a great show so much to talk about We're going to get to tim tebow and a couple minutes taunting. We'll talk about taunting that's going to be interesting about a silly topic silly sports headlines all kinds of different things that will get to today rookie. Quarterback's what they're doing the youth movement. There's a whole lot of stories unfolding as nfl season nears. So make sure you buckle up. Get yourselves ready to go Be awhile ride so we appreciate you joining us. Tj plex how ya doing. Good morning to everyone ran. I feel good man ready to go baby. How you on this beautiful wins the early morning you know so let's just still we do a You out on the golf course you off. The gulf brings man. You got well you got going on the greens what you got going on. I am not tom This past monday. Myself and fred smoot we. We hosted our eighth annual Golf charity event for autism military. You know You know supporting families and things of those nature so eight years and you will leave autism it was it was a great event and you know hopefully in another twelve months we can make it nine years. That is awesome that they congratulations man. I wish i could have been there. I promise i'd do make one day. We're going to do the show from there at some point. A beautiful what. We're going to do speaking of being able to do that. Maybe one day. These guys are help us out with doing that. Say good things you know. They say good things. Come to those who wait the 2021 twenty one mercedes-benz suv family proves otherwise. It takes no time at all you know. Why could you set up a test drive at your local mercedes dealer. Learn more about m. b. u. s. a. dot com our go to mb usa dot com..
"john mara" Discussed on Boomer & Gio
"And i don't know maybe that's why he didn't play it. Looks like you didn't make the The second trip with them after the plane while end up going back so not aguire so he's got a fear of flying on this flight. I think so. Yeah this happens. And then he didn't get on a plane line. The line i read was donovan mitchell. Who has a has a fear of flying was not on the second flight to memphis which in tells me he was on the first one. He's going to have to figure that out obviously nba player. I mean my goodness can take the madden cruiser all over the nba. No you cannot and flying private to every single venue is something that's probably not an option either so man oh man that's think so. Yeah no question about it John mara the giant owner did meet the media video conference yesterday talking about everything giants and one thing. He made very clear. He wants the postseason when every season expecting make the playoffs. Okay unfortunate. i've been wrong last five years. But i always expect us to make the playoffs and expect us to be in contention. Just haven't done it while he's how tell you one thing. They spent a lot of money free agency while he did address. The opportunity presents itself. I think you have to seize it and i. That's what we did this year and we think it will pay off baton. We'll tell we'll see. One of those. Big pieces was a wide receiver for his quarterback. Daniel jones his name is kenny. Golladay receiver with that skill. Set alongside the guys. We already have thought with the huge piece for us. Another thing he said to he said because they spent so much money at least is why he said what he said because they spent so much money in free agency there in no rush to give an extension to saquon barkley though they have in this year and they can pick up his option next year to right yep so no obligation having told may third the pick up the options got hooked your option so still plenty of time for that. Seahawks giving receiver tyler. Lockett a four year extension worth sixty nine million dollars and in the nhl. Tonight you've got those sabres one last night for the rangers. The rangers play them tonight. And you've got the islanders taking on the capital's tonight each morning show with.
Street Photography in New York City, with Gerard Exupery
"Back to another episode of this week and photo. I'm your host frederik van johnson today on the show got gerard exupery. He's a veteran new york city based street photographer. That knows more about street photography than than or has forgotten more about it than i probably will ever know about street photography. We're gonna dive into that a little bit as well as what. It's like shooting in and around new york city now and before pandemic all that stuff going to talk about gear all this stuff so gerard. Welcome to the show man. How's it going very well. Glad to be here. Yeah it is good to hear man. I'm excited to chat. So we've got you know. The the john mara of photography. And then this genre of let's call it of photojournalism or that that world of shooting. What's the difference. What's the difference between street photography. And that i think that in journey with photo journalism you tend to think in terms of projects. Not just one image. You know a a series of images that tell a complete story and i think with straight photography. is generally just one image. Okay okay has got to tell the story one at a time. So let let's rewind back to the time to. Let's let's do origin story thing so cue. The flashback so the origin story of girard. Where what was that moment where you knew that. Okay i feel like. I need to be taking pictures of this. This amazing city. I live in well on my planet. We didn't really have photography. And when i came to earth. And i'm sorry all right more and you know it's funny. It's the only thing i've ever wanted to do since As far back as i can remember one of my earliest memories of my father staying his role affleck's in my hand. While i took the first picture took and which was a ship underneath the verrazano bridge and it just stuck in my mind. He passed away about a year after that. And you know. I it just all these feelings about photography and loss. Let's say i don't know all came together. And i just knew that this is the direction i wanted to go. Yeah yeah and it's a good direction. It's the world photography from my standpoint on of you agree with this but it's it's equal parts. Geeky ray is we like the technology and all that stuff and then it psychology you when you're dealing with the public and trying to get the right shot or get the shot or permission to do the shot and the you know the all of this stuff in between psychology science physics wrapped up into the time machine that we call a camera to fast forward to now the president or the recent the recent present. Let's call it like this last this past five five or so years me decade your adventures in and around new york city. The i can't imagine being a street photographer. There for just an extended period of time when i'm there is overload. It's just like what. Do i take pictures of two months. It's too much going on you get analysis paralysis. What would have been some of the standout experiences you've had in city over the past decade or so that you like okay. I got to tell this bar story. Wow pick were got to pick one. I think defining Well this is. It's further back than ten years but sure for for the finding event was i was involved in a robbery and a camera store. And it's a long story but rather traumatic thing. Somebody was killed and and i got roughed up a little bit and it was it was. It wasn't pleasant. But it was. After that i i realized well putting yourself out there making yourself vulnerable and taking pictures strangers asking or you know. I don't think covertly taking pictures of people is for me. It's just not right so if you're going to ask or you're just going to be obvious bat it you've got to put yourself out and up until that point I didn't know what i was expecting to happen but After that i figured well. What's the worst that can happen. I already found out what the worst that can happen. And it really It helped me in. Maybe be taught me to be very aware of my surroundings almost in a comfortable way though. So that okay. Let's not ever forget. I've gone into situations where drug dealers on a corner. And i was taking a picture of this house that was closed and abandoned actually in patterson not beard city paterson new jersey which is really exciting. We've got a water tower waterfall. There you go and a crappy movie was made by. Jim jarmusch bad it. It lasts two years ago and any case so i am standing there taking pictures and You know. I hear this guy walking up to me and it was interesting because there were like three. Get two or three guys on each corner but not the corner i was on the house was and i'm i'm taking pictures and i hit. This guy comes up behind the camera up to my eye. And i can hear him. I'm aware of him and he said. Hey what are you doing. I told them flat out. I'm taking pictures of buildings that have been foreclosed on You know and properties that have been abandoned families that have gone kicked out. And what have you. And he goes off and you know then he goes How much do you think they want that house i should. Oh i don't know but whatever it is going to be pretty cheap
Choose Your Family Wisely
"So this episode inspired by john. Laura who suggested that we dig deeper into a season one episode. We're looking at life priorities. So so this goes out to. John mara thank you john. Maura asked us a few questions in terms to dig a little deeper and the one that really stood out was like why do you have to choose your family in france. And how do you do with the backlash of choosing one or the other and we thought we we dig a little deeper into that with this topic and hobby. Yeah so we came up with that the ability to choose who you surround yourself with hoop which family which friend is around with. That's important you know and to why is it important. Well what's important is that you have the ability to choose many people. They they let other people choose for them you know. They're just going about their like you know. They want to coast through life without making decisions. They want other people to make decisions for them. But you know we we were twenty years ago. That's that was all man. You know what. I am the first one to be. You know when you give him to peer pressure and then certain people after a while people start categorizing all your this type of person. You're that type of person and then you start believing. Would other people say about you. Exactly how remember like in high school way back. We were like we're like social being just like regular people we want to belong right. I remember in high school I'll be the first one to say. Just like you hubby off by something all the leaders until they follow the neater but the important part is that that that we are the part that we want to share his. We have to recognize that relationships right. How you who you surround yourself with who you choose to build relationships with and julia choose to follow either. You're the follower your leader and unfortunately there's a lot of followers out there. When i was in high school. I remember my dad would tell me the gear on not recognize so for those. That don't know spanish. It's like tell me who you hang out with. And i'll tell you who you are you know and i saw my dad. You know. it's not my friends. It's me you know like i will go out with some friends and come home late or whatever it was i mean yeah i mean it's easy to look back and say like oh man you know i was wrong right there but we live forward. You know so a lot of people during that time like you know. Just go with the flow a lot of times. It's like oh let's do this. Let's do that. Let's do it and they're like this. There's times when when you need to be a follower and they're censoring. You need to be a leader because you're not born leader. I mean li leaders in leadership. Think those are qualities that you learn throughout life and And being a follower you're thinking and you're looking and you're observing you know who you're following you know and what you're learning from them And you know when you're in high school in your early twenties. Well you know you're you're still learning Still learning about life. You're learning how to reopen and early early early early. Eight seventeen sixteen folks. It's thirty s thing. I mean it's it's it's a process it's alive process you know and You know going back to To the original question you know. Why is it so hard. I think part of it is it might be are familial background might be our background going up wherever we grew up Because there might have been you know certain social normative where we grew up. you know. it's like you're only going to be this. You know you can only aspire to be that or you know what this is what your grandfather did. This is what your father did. So this is what you're gonna do. you know. I think that plays a part in it but once again there's gonna come a point in time when you had to put on the big boy pants and make a decision for yourself because ultimately you're no longer making a decision for yourself. You might be making decision for you and your partner for new and your and your family your kids or your your aging parents or your business you know and i think you know like i said that's a that's a process right there and how do you. How do you go about learning that process. Know we all mentioned you know. And i'm gonna mess him now mean i was. You know i was nowhere near leader. You know in my teens or twenties and i'll admit that because i was still learning. I was fumbling all over the place. Hell into my thirties. I was fumbling all over the place you know and but lisa was conscious and aware that and i was aware to know that i'm messing up not really anywhere until later on in life when i said okay you know. Now it's time to really focus
The Bubble is Bursting for One Card
"If only i had started in two thousand eighteen. I'd be able to retire. I would have invested so much money into luke. Oh boy what. Four now luca. The silver prism the standard one. Those like those. Want from like two k and like february. Two eight k nine k. Now it's insane. What the hell. Hey how about this. I never knew cards. Went for this much money chris booker. The rookie was nine hundred. That silver prison nine hundred dollars all right. They traded for chris. Paul within two days they were selling for thirteen and fourteen hundred dollars. Wow well. la repeat that. I got to hear that again one more time. They were nine hundred bucks. When i checked nine hundred. No devon booker. Okay sorry okay. I heard desmond being in my brain out devon booker day traded for chris paul and within a couple of days those i saw him for thirteen and fourteen hundred in auctions. I mean that's how fast it really is like stocks. Now it's crazy. Yeah i mean. Stocks stocks are usually that good stocks are good but not that good but you could see people ran out there and it became supply-and-demand people. Were like book rookies. Because these are the next ones that are gonna fly up. I mean that's my understanding. I have somebody of done. Some research and have some had some conversations in recent weeks. My understanding is that if you're in the buying and selling business with cards and is very reactionary when it comes if a guy's name to an all star game or a guy. The team trades for big name player or the team. Their team gets hurt. Or whatever it's very reactionary and it's sort of i mean sometimes it's it's unpredictable from our standpoint. That's why i would say this. If you feel like you really know basketball. This is only tip. Give out daybreak. If you are thinking about getting into this. And i'm i'm not the guy as somebody that really knows about all of this stuff to to give you tips on where to look how to start all this kind of stuff because i'm not that guy Because i do get a lot of questions about that. Because we've mentioned on the show i would say this if you're gonna go into basketball and you're gonna buy basketball and you want to bank on somebody now because you think the cards are gonna go go do it. Now before this damn season start you've got about whatever two weeks because once the season starts it's exactly what you say of the night that guy drops fifty people go on there and try to start by rookie cards. Those jamal murray things went through the frigging roof at one thing. I think it's also important to have a frugal mindset when it comes to your finances earth when it comes to investing when it comes to investing in stocks or bitcoin are or even cards. I think it's important that you have enough of like disposable income like not like not like you don't need a ton necessarily like you do things that you enjoy and things that make you happy maybe start buying video games or whatever else it might be but you know you gotta have a cushion to support you in case things get real like jobs get lost especially right now during a pandemic investing a lot of money into something can be incredibly risky. Especially if it's all and one you know basket all in one player all in one stock or whatever you need to have a cushion to support yourself especially if you're somebody who you know is on the younger side and may not be living with your parents or whatever. I just think that's important to mention and what stocks as well you know sometimes being conservative and having stuff that builds long-term and grow don't for for i'm trust me i am. I am very much in the middle. But i think it's lawrence to offer conservative Advice for a lot of people who may not have A conservative mindset. But i'm by fall. I find myself in the middle. Quite often doesn't mean. I don't take good risks. So do you think it was unwise for me to use my tire children's college fund. The john mara was you find that on. Wise should have put it into luca. There's a lot of when you when you look at. What for josh cheaper when you look at what Steph currys and the lebrons worth now. There's luka doncic have a giraffe named after him chamrann. Jau wrath do
Ghost of Tsushima: Creative Director Interview (with Spoilers)
"Have a very special guests with us this week that we're both very excited to talk with Jason. Connell from sucker punch. Thank you so much for joining US A. Awesome ear. Very happy to have you of course to go super in depth on Kgo Suma, so for those who are watching end jumping in. Be warned there will be some spoiler fil talking here if you haven't played through the game if you haven't. Checked out everything you want to in the game beforehand. Please do that first and then come back. There's a lot to dive into. We're going to be jumping into as much as we can. Of course if you want spoiler free impressions. We did record episode that a little earlier. Even can go check that out, but. There's so much that we can jump into this game I off. Jason I. Just want to say congratulations for recording this on the day. The game is starting to roll out on launch. Worldwide is already available in some territories as where speaking so congratulations to you on the team on that It's very exciting for to finally be out there as a fan of it and I'm sure it must be exciting for the team. Yes, it's a super exciting to have it out. There cited everybody host their photo mode favorites sin. Just enjoy the Games. I feel like an Brian I think this is true for both you and me. We could probably spend the next forty minutes talking exclusively about photo mode. Yeah, no I. Just get into that very quickly. What you've created, my favorite voted in video game history, but also. You might notice you. Create one of the most not-so-subtle advertising tools. That is perfect for this game. Because every time I seen pictures of it I WANNA? Play it again, and I think for a lot of people who were just sort of like on the outside, looking in a video games in general like people who aren't just totally head down on stuff all the time. They're like wait what that's! That's a video game. Where do I play I play it? They're going to get that so Yeah, that's a very very smart. If you guys it's absolutely stunning game. A cool. Photo of his crazy because we were one of the first, you know infamous second son was one of the first. At least I know of modern games that have put like a like a photo mode in in that game. It was just like this cool idea to show off all the cool particles and lighting. That game was a while known for. But it was wasn't crafted as a personality around. It was the cool photo mode, and then over time over the last few years. You have these games that out and Spiderman my favorite of version of this where they like adds the flavor of their game to its photos like tied to the personality of that gain. On, the building tops, doing like little cell fees and Doing it with a phone. That was awesome made it. You need to spiderman so when we were like. Hey, what are we gonNA do for voter mood? To? Whatever the ghost photo mode. One, it's gotta be way better than our first one because. Our, follow up one and two. It's gotta be semantically. You know connected to the game, so we're like. Well motion in Wind I. Haven't we like? Make it less about a static image. You can do that, too, but have be about moving frame that I think is so beautiful about our game kind of spun out from there. I didn't think it was odd that you give the main character, a Selfie, stick and the iphone. His drone that goes along with. Little you know little out of place, but I thought butyl. Oh God you know it's been incredible thing to play around with, and you can do what Brian said. Every time I see more of it. It's one of those things where I've been playing every night. Still in, it's like Oh, no, I need to go jump back in the middle of the day. Because like Oh. That's a great spot I never thought. I could take a photo of I've been a particularly obsessed with going to bamboo strike locations and trying to get all the great photos. I cannot have those spot often. You know like perfectly placed at an edge or something. I sort of wondering. Because obviously this was built more with like the photo mode in mind as you development went on, because it's become so much bigger, what was world creation influenced at all by the photo mode, or were there any aspects of designing this game that were influenced by it because it is more like prevately used feature these days I guess than back when second came out. You know. A little secret you know we. We always knew we'd have a photo modem. We knew that this ambitious version of like I. said a second ago better and more dramatically connected. Owning, really work on it until pretty late, so you know we were so. Dedicated to the stories in crafting the world, so when it came to the beauty of the world. That add add everything that's in the game. I would have to imagine that that had the most iterating over anything, because it's one of the first things you do before you have the whole story articulated and put into the game. Certainly don't have cut scenes. You know it's like you're laying out terrain and at that like how does the island look and then it gets into the direction the feeling Cutting, trees down growing trees, making procedural tools like the world is the by far the most iterative on thing now. There was a point where we're like. This is how we make our game. Look good clearings. Big giant swath of like in forests, you know that you can see for miles. Off using color as like landmarks again, the Golden Forest, or read flower fields, and then, and then a you know, certainly that sort of made its way into some of our features of a photo, but the the world designed stuff. took the lead on on end photo mode. Okay, now that we've created this amazing awesome place. How do we utilize the photo mode in like critical photo that will. Take advantage of how great our team at did at creating a beautiful world. I think one of my favorite things about this game is the sort of balanced that it's constantly striking Between being sort of completely serene, and then the music swells up and swords or out, and they're slashing against each other. How hard was it to sort of get that that tone down because I could see. You know I think in in lesser hands I could be a very kind of dangerous. Push and pull, but I feel like you totally nailed that and I think that that's like some people when they look at an open world game want like nonstop jam-packed activities in in your team made the decision to pull back and let things breath every now and then How did all that come together? Well you know for me. It's the first game that I was certainly a visual director on, and so I I would I you learn something about yourself with everything you create, and for me I personally learned that I don't have a natural tendency to like create incredible. Violence, I just wasn't that was uneven. Favor Games, bloodborne like as absolutely my favorite game. Guide. You're on this show. This is gonNA be worthwhile and. About it anytime. But no, seriously like. That's my favorite game, but. When we were crafting the world would I navigated towards with Joanna. Who's environment our leader? This did this amazing a blog post recently on playstation bar. was the beauty of it was taking taking a moment to breathe in, and then I realized that some of my favorite games that are not. Show the classes certainly embraced the idea of atmosphere in a sense of this and you know I donate Fox's is is resonates. Conversations resonated with him as well so then then the conversation shifted into. Okay well. We definitely have it. We have a summer game. So you know without saying anything else as you say Amer game, you know you're going to be hitting things with a four-foot razor blade so. You know violence is GonNa come so we certainly work on that stuff. allied and we wanted to be great and gritty, and the you know like you really WanNa feel like you have contact when you have contact but the other stuff doesn't come as natural, and you have to actually work on that stuff to balance it out, you really do, and so that means like the idea is about creating Haiku, which was actually named idea You know really. Or believe it was taking a moment to. Allow the beauty to take hold, and not what I think is cool about the ICU that I hope people enjoy about it is is that they're not tied till like progression like you're not. You're not like intrinsically forced to go, do it? You know there's a sense of you have to have the wonder and curiosity desire to do it. It's not like game telling you go do this to reach next level certainly, a lot of that is tied to corporation auto out to have to consider that, but it is. It is a work philosophy to try to get that balance of that contrast It takes years to get right for sure. I really enjoyed the Haiku sections actually He was like you said. It's sort of provided like this. This relaxing breeder and I did like the you were able to select different things who essentially collate them into one kind of fresh Haiku each time. Yeah I I mean I did every single side quests in every single objective in this game, but I I really enjoyed those wow awesome. The accuser, some of my favorite ones to the cinematography. You know it was at the moment to like. You know certainly we call them breathing. Moments definitely say that studio, but it was kind of a moment. Regis Art Geek out a little bit like the people who do the cameras. Mottaki, they can place it in to get the right motion and you know, and then the writers have an opportunity to like. Give you give you a couple of cool options. Just the beauty kinda comes through which is which in the end has been a very positive thing for the experience. Yeah, the balance that Brian was. Speaking to how you were sort of describing how that all came together? I could imagine. It's a very fine line between making sure it's peaceful and calm in certain areas, but. It's still engaging for the player because you could always run the risk of it. Being something that the player doesn't want to engage with, but as Brian. Saying like finding those high coups feels like this wonderful moment of solace after I have assassinated an entire Cam Mongols. And need to reflect on Jin's life, but also just the world I, it's this really great balanced that a I think as Brian was sort of saying you always get in games, but it feels so refreshing to hear. And it's a huge part of our philosophy. How we treat. Treat the game. Whether it's a Haiku great example, he could probably keep talking about, but you know the music style music how the music comes on not having things like combat while you're doing, shrine climbs or anywhere near them so that we can let those be their own experience, and so are these, are we? Everything wanted these features that are not mainline missions. Our conversation is like about how much combat how much non-combat and what is the purpose and what are the? What's the feeling for its existence like what what is the emotional goal for for these features and these are conversations? We have a lot and sometimes triple times over we try. We don't like it. We try something else. Well and for me, what's really interesting is sort of the place that all of these features and the things you go on, have sort of in the context of sucker punches past work, because it is I've been such a huge fan of both cooper franchise and infamous. Stir a year and. You know you get increasingly larger, but often more urban. City expenses that you're exploring a lot. In both of those franchises to certain extent here you're out in the wild. There are of course settlements and encampments and things like that, but there is a there's a lot of stretches where it can just be the world around you that you're exploring and I was sort of wondering on a world design level. How do you? How do you balance? Making all of these locations unique to explore as well and interesting. Even though you know a lot of can just be more, the environment's like what are the challenges that come with that? Yeah, so one of our. Our Contractors Jeff He. He talks a lot about content density, and what is the correct density and I really am really thankful that he brought that conversation up to light so much because It's such a you know Thinking about if you're currently doing something, you're going across the world and run into something. How much further would you have to ride your horse before you might find the next thing, or can you see the next thing from where you currently are? How how dense is it and I really enjoyed that conversation? Because it let us think about what's the right philosophy for for our game and it it certainly it allows us to you know if we want to in one place, you just completed something, and you should be able to generally speaking, look around and find one more thing on horizon or see the shrine trying on top of the mountain. It influence our world design alive, because when we first had the game built for the I you know I'd say maybe two years. It was a lot of forest. It was a ton of trees and it was cool, but you always were felt like you were in this like. Tunnel beautiful, but really deforestation. which does a couple things one is? It is very cool, but. It makes it really hard to know where you are without a compass or many map. Something telling you kind of giving you that extra information that your brain is just really needing. So what we did is we started opening up fields and I definitely some shadow, the classes photos out and was like fields as as reference vm. Because it just feels so epic when you're going through field, but but you know the criticism it could be that it's boring or something like that, and and really have to embrace a philosophy that it won't be boring because there's beautiful music. There's five things now that you can see what you want to do next because you're in a field, there's more clearings and it created a Great beauty in the game, but also more opportunity to engage with that density and I I. Really I think that that was one of the conversations that was ongoing throughout the project, but we landed in a really. I think unique spot for. When when when you? When your team was the helping this game, you obviously weren't anticipating a significant portion of the world's population to be stuck indoors for months on end, but At one I mean there were obviously there. Are you know a lot of sort of like entertainment? Things that have come out during quarantined. That didn't really. Fair as well due to their. SORT, of like the way they were delivered or their subject material something that, but this is a game that I really more than ever appreciated as a guy who's in a two bedroom apartment really appreciated huge open fields and. Mountains in like sprawling rivers and seas and stuff like that but I think one of my favorite things about the big open fields is that there's always something? Or there is like a lone tree. And you're just sort of naturally drawn towards it, and I found that like that sort of like beautiful use of negative space to be like so powerful. In terms of like never felt to me like there's nothing ahead of you. This is boring. It always felt to me like this. Is this is this is like a sort of triumphant use of minimalism and and charging towards something. To reveal that there's like one loan item in the distance was so much more engaging tomato like at a mini map that had a hundred time trials, but Hamas other stuff like I. Found Myself uncovering the dog on the entire map which. I was I was like basically riding around in spirals like in that movie alto like I was trying to. Five is in half the time I was on foot to. It was really wonderful game to explore so I. WanNa ask you about that the. The the sort of the way exploration on unfolds in this game is something I. Really Really Love and I think a lot of open world games are going to take note of following the wind and talking to people and following Fox's two locations rather than just you know overtly stating the player. This is where you're GonNa go, or you go to. The map in this big thing opens up. All that come together. What was the push and pull on that to sort of find the right way to keep players in the no, but without making like overwhelming them with information. Yeah I'll talk about kind of our studio kind of struggles, but I also kind of throw in my own, maybe personal philosophy, too. So I. I judge Games my favorite game, especially them really harshly by. How does it feel if you're? You're actually not doing anything on the sticks. I would if you're just sitting there. Just sitting in the world, you're standing in the world. You're on your horse in the world like is there. Is there a what's the feeling and some of my favorite games by just sitting there? There's like things that go through your mind. Like why do we? What are you anticipating? That are stuck on the story or like. Where's that next objective like you're just what's going through your mind? because. That's when you're not doing anything. That's what you're thinking of next like. You're just taking in the beauty looking around our game I hope that translates into that sense of exploration and sense of curiosity like if you do stop for a second yearly, you're not already on kind of a train of thought it is more. One of curiosity is one of like. Hey, what? What do I want to do next? Oh, there's something over there. There's something of their. Oh, I wonder band before, so they're having gone to could check it out and I. think that the more information you were to have on your screen compasses many maps. It kinda answers those questions before you even have time to ask the question. It's just like the dots right there. Let's go do the DOT. It doesn't matter what the DOT is. It's just there's thing let's go do it, and so that that to me is is a really important part of what I think. The Games, Tries to do in the world, and and certainly we did not have the wind when we started on this project at all. In fact, what the wind was which is has got this cool story I'll say quick is. on the first direction slides on the you know we did. A presentation is like one of the first presentation out the way look and feel and everything moves was was one of them like a wind. We're going to double triple quadruple down on win, and you know there's a lot of attack that has to go into that. He got Capes moving I gala hair moving. You gotta get trees and Bushes, and especially for procedurally generated now artistically procedurally generated world. That's really tough. Two years later. Something like that. That became true and you've standing I'm standing in this world and we had other elements we were helped. Augmenting are kind of navigation and get around the world and I'm just like holy crap. The wind is amazing. It actually works at that time. It always like went from East West or West. East or something I can't remember always just directional and it's just. It's really good. And then we started having conversations like how going to get more stuff off the screen to stay in the is like beautiful world more and more because it's just. It's really stunning even years ago. And a one point I had this idea like. The Wind. It sounds kind of crazy and Adrian is like our longtime worked on has been sucker punch. Long Time. They tried a little quick prototype with me. We had like fifteen people play at were removed all the you I just to hey. Can you just just try to follow it and just and it sounds crazy, but follow in if you can get to that hot spring or that on. And it worked like the first prototype fourteen out of the fifteen people were able to easily get there so cool. Yeah and I. I was like Oh. Yeah, we have to do this. Question. Like. This is something that is going to be unique to the game and then an analyzing. Say on them about the wind because I can do it all day, but is it had like the matic ties to the island in historical kind of. Poetic, Tian's to you know. The Mongols came in as typhoon sweeps them all out to see and. You know we name the sword the sky storm after that you know him being a storm, a metaphorical storm on the island for for the island, rooting for the island, and then it was like about nature, and then the animals came along, and I, you know it just felt like a bunch of like one of these critical pieces you don't know exists, and then you find it, and you're like that fifth straight there and does and then nearly. Oh, I, think we have a good. I can see the puzzle now so. Cool, it was cool journey. Having having that comes away. It all it feels so true to the world that the team has created in those moments. Because you know, I'm I'm a completion is player like if you give me a list of a thousand things to go collect if you give me, you know like an infamous. Charge to go collect I. Collect all of them, but there's something that I think does speak so much to this world and end you wanting to be invested in that. It is really by pulling everything. Out of the screen that you're looking at and just letting you look at the world you get more familiar with it, and you start to learn more about Oh. Yeah, I've taken that pass before. That leads to that pillar of honor or there's that cemetery over there as you start to. Trek across the land. It really gets you invest in the world in a way that I think just having a list or a neon sign to tell you where to go would. Deliver it in the same way. Yeah, that's great. That's so. That's the goal so I'm glad you had that experience. And I it's one of those things you know that the open world I think speaks so well to what the team really accomplish with this game, but one of the things I was curious about wasn't and I know. We talked about this a little bit, but released, but since we can. Talk to the island as whole, but what was the? I? Guess the poll the. The back and forth poll of wanting to make sure you stay true to the spirit of this real world location, and honor the history and the people that are but also create a world that at the end of the day would be fun to run around or write a horse around in as a game. Yeah and it's a great topic, and it's kind of been the the struggle for and I would say struggle in a creative sense. It's the creative. From from from once, we actually knew we were making Susha and we started doing all this research, and and you learn so much about the island. Like the fact that at that time it was likely to be like ninety five percent covered in dense forest. Which again I told you we tried. We tried very dense forest in. It's just hard to ride a fun horse through tree. Trees it's. Pretty tough. Also, it's incredibly hilly. We went there just like it's just hill after hill after mountain after Mount After Mountain, also challenging to create a interesting layouts in combat spaces in so. So, we worked with our team in Japan. We're like hey, this is how we were planning on You know being inspired by the shape of the islands. It looks very similar to the actual shape, but here's some kind of Ford as we'd like to take or game reasons you know, make the game more fun to to roam around. The landscapes in have layouts that have. Have Cool puzzle climbing challenges, or what have you were interesting missions, and and they were totally for it you know. And they gave us feedback of maybe when we went too far and then they also they know is in a fun way. They gave us feedback of win. Hey, you could go further with us, and so that was. It was a lot of ultimately. We're super inspired by history, and what happened and then the general beauty of greater. The greater nature of Japan as a whole, it's definitely hugely inspiring to us but we also make in a game and a PR and original story and a lot of things that. Have to Challenge it, but work in tandem with it, so it's it's definitely been a challenge I'm in a good way and we learn so much. And I will say the last thing I'll say on that. Is that within Joyon on the environment? Our team myself in the constitution. We talk a lot about like realism. And You know like A. Maybe painted realism, or maybe, how can we do it like a slightly stylized version of that? And and and you know this is not even if you've ever been to Seattle only did infamous. It wasn't really a stone by stone. Kind of recreation. Roads aren't lined up exactly. It's sort of like if you blur your eyes, you're like Oh. Yeah, that's definitely definitely Seattle like it rains. A lot of people drink coffee. PUNK ROCK and grunge music. It's You know the things that are there the spacing? Like the things you would expect, but it's not the like. Let's put a magnifying glass over, and let's get it like perfectly accurate and we take that same philosophy here. We want to feel like that. This is plausibly. Dass what it could feel like. That's what if we could do smell through it. That would we would try to. Feeling into music, we're going for a as a is a is a main heart. Smell will actually be unlocked on the playstation six. Thirty I. Have Rumor, we have an today since three. Hey listeners. We know you love gaming and have excellent taste, so we want to tell you about the official. The last of podcast in the show writer podcasters stand up comedian and huge fan of the. Host Christian Spicer we'll revisit the first game and talk with the people who created that critically acclaimed work hit. Also give you what you've all been waiting for. 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The the combat in this game is awesome, and that's coming from somebody who to be completely transparent. Wasn't crazy about it. At first 'cause my immediate reaction was. There's no lock on. Think what do you mean? There's no lock on like you can't. You can't have a certified again without lock on and as as I grew to. Appreciate. The sort of dynamic happenstance of a dashing between those four stances and. Fighting different types of enemies. In synchronicity while switching and switching back and forth using my sub moves and everything I was like. This is one of my favorite combat systems interview ever But what what? How did how did that decision? Come to not have have lock on? was that was at a debate internally in the studio? Because that's to me, that's one of those things that people just expect from a video game and I found myself not even thinking about it after a few hours in. I. It's definitely debate right like it's A. It was heavily debated and talked about how you know. From all corners of the CEO there was not some like. I mean because it's a it's a standard. There is a standard anytime. You go against the standard. You need to prove it out and. I'm glad we tried something different than you know. As person bloodborne like my favorite game, I like games that allow you to really kind of hone in and focus, and and control that since a control comes, comes with locking, but and you know, and certainly as a samurais sense of control is a huge fantasy so Yeah, man. We talked about it a ton Maybe when it comes to combat, I would say it's in the top three conversations that we had over the entire course of the project while. But I have to give massive. Shout out to you know. One of the studio heads. You know I've found Sucker Punch Christopher. Men he's he's behind the core design, a lot of the combat and he he works out of the code for it, and there's another Guy Ted. Who is awesome designer? And he liked those two brains man. They worked together, and they figured out a way to create something that is first of all feels like you're hitting the person when you do hit them like it's a tandem as animation, so it's not like a hit box based. It's like these. This animation links up to this one. Is I very newbie? Animation Brain. And it's not just like the slash through thing right, and so they feel like you're hitting the person it feels. A goal is a gritty feeling, but it's also incredibly fast paced at times. You know as you get like five or six people around you you can be, you could be like. Changes. In planning, and when you're going to do the smoke bomb, go around the building and do another. Jump down from the top, you know. It's just like a it. Almost like a the style of it is is better with how the walk on. That's kind of the thing that we found over time especially when she became pro at it. And locking on actually with slow down, maybe in some ways and a sense of control will be got out of it instead was things like standoffs in duels, obviously assassinating somebody having that jump on, somebody gives you that, too, but we decided to really push that those moments or mythic abilities I think are. Usually will help take out people pretty quickly. The mythic abilities are interesting because I I think i. I I'm really glad that this game never really went like supernatural despite having the Word Ghost, in the title. There's. There's other there's an alternate version of this game. Were you guys just want preserved and people are summoning dragons and stuff like that. I appreciate that a lot of the crazy stuff that you got away with felt grounded even like the fire sort is ridiculous, but there's like. Oh there's there's sort of like a scientific explanation. Yeah. And then when you start doing some really intense stuff that feels deliberately over the top like dude, get terrified and they starts crawling away like. Is Watching people just straight up running around. Disappear and stuff like that. It's crazy like this is a i. mean even when we pitches his game. This was another heavily debated. Topic is going to be fantasy based or not, and obviously nate and I felt really strongly as well as many other people that we should not make it fantasy base in like high fantasy base because. It really those first of all there's. Several of those games out there already, and they do a wonderful job and I love neo I love sector, Oh, these games are awesome and they lean on that a little bit more as their unique. You know and so. Good. It's smart of us not to do that, but the reason why we didn't do the reason we did was because we were definitely were focusing a little bit more on the Human Story certainly one of the world to feel plausibly real. And you know if you like, I'll take the example. You just threw out there like having people fall in there, but get scared. Scoot away, man if you could just like, pull out a fucking dragon every five minutes. Scares them like I feel like a real challenge to overcome like and so you have to be constrained. So that when we do pull out something that's really incredible or scary or something like that that it actually has wait to it, you know and. I one of the things I do love about our game in might be some of my favorite content, actually mythic missions because. They. A build up the idea that people were legends like they talk about people in their connection to the island. The lightning one is a great example where you know, they burn the black sand, the sands black, which always like wire, the sands black back answer black, and it just bill out as they build up this legend of people that may have come before you, which is Kinda cool because? because. You're kind of building your own legend. To maybe one day, people talk about mythic stories of the ghost You know that humans can do maybe slightly crazy incredible in your living, example of that and people tell tall tales. I think that's cool. I love win. Jin would go around to the stories and people would be like. There's ghosts in the woods and he's like. No, there's not. Watching watching the people run away after a battle, though my favorite things in the game because it's it teeters on like on on like. Comedy, you would find in like vintage Kung Fu movies where somebody would come and kick. A bunch of Bass and one guy would be like away. Runaway ended every single time was I would let him run like maybe like hundreds of feet pull out my arrow. Cruel Man I know you you put it there. You know you gotta sit there, don't. If you give Brian the high ground. He will let them run as far as he wants to. I what I do love going back to the mythic tells them. You know maybe people one day telling the story of the Ghost I. I'm always sort of a sucker for. Stories that are about storytelling to a certain extent, because I do think you get so much of the human nature that we all deal with on a day to day basis of why we tell stories and everything and I I love that that permeates so much of this game, and not just in the quest, but on the on the ques- structure as a whole in this game I think is really unique, but it works really well. Because as Brian was saying earlier, you can go to a house in. Someone's saying Oh. There are nearby. Please help me or someone one of my favorite stories early on one of the side missions I found was. A woman send you to get food from the bandit that stole it from her. And then you bring the food back and she's like. Oh, thanks! I finally have food down. You're like. Wait a second. That wasn't yours to begin with. I just killed all those guys because you can't, there's. There's this. Stark sadness to a lot of the stories that I think really works in this game and I was just curious on like a total storytelling. Horrible 'cause there are moments of levity. You know like everything with Kennedy I think is so great, but how do you you know balance? I think this is a land and a group of people who are under siege. They're under attack by the suppressive force. At the same time. They are living their lives. There's this humanity going on the island. Hugs, what are some of the struggles that come up and try to tell those stories? Yeah, well first of all. When you started telling me, which story were, I was like racking my brain like which? It was so many. I I know it's crazy and I'm gonNA. Play through a bunch probably that I've played through in a long time, I play retail, but. You know It's balanced because you don't want it to be this like we did not want our game to be this like heavy thing that was constantly hitting you over the head with a that was just not what we wanted for this particular game. Think anybody really goes from bad particularly. I think they're always in goal, but but in it's hard, though because invasion and you wanna see desperation, and you WanNa see like these people have struggles. And frankly you know we want to. You know it's not always like dude. Go kill things, and so you WanNa hear you know people having. Their kids, or this or that like our parents like I. Don't know you just want to hear something that sounds like these people are struggling a little bit. But you know the when it comes to the writing and those stories, most of the stories do most of them do exist to try and reflect at the world has been in invaded, invaded place and. For people that are like these allies, and you engage with those those will get a little bit more in depth than traveling of their story, and for these little small one off encounters. Just say look even even the hasn't class is affected greatly by this and hopefully feel a sense of remorse for them or sadness for them, maybe a sense of duty that why you're doing this stuff, but as for the tone of it. I genuinely like a somber tone in general, I think Sambre is is not dark. Sombre is not grotesque. Sambas is just like a like A. Light sadness to things and I felt like that light sadness in a world that is so incredibly. Beautiful is kind of a nice. Balance and I think we look at it now that way and to some extent. That's a really good way putting now that now that you say that. It makes perfect sense because. You have all these incredible like you know. There's Fox's in this you know. Like. Rainstorms the beautiful trees and yellow leaves, but then you go, do these side quests on. You're like Oh. Wow, that was. Your family died and you can save them and you're like damn. That hit me hard that one. Particularly, there was one side quest for like now I know, too. Hard that one's talents so hard and You know there that one people on on the team who? Created that one, and then like you know as we get through the Polish face like Alan, somebody went through and added a bunch of extra work to that one for animation, and like kneeling down, and you know I you know in from liking that mission to really like connecting with more, and this is a small thing right like this is not a. Two hour long you know big big mission. It's very straightforward and simple cement to just reflects the tone of the world, a little bit and Alan Dow was one of the ones that, even though it's a small moment in your entire through I think improved a lot of the last course of the project I'm glad it exists. That's awesome. Yeah, I I, don't even know if I necessarily have a question about it, but I'm just curious to hear more about the the construction of the the site quests when it comes to the side tails when it comes to those the supporting cast that you get because I do I do think one of my favorite things. Throughout sucker punches, history has been that there is of course he usually a pretty great main character, but also this really great supporting cast as well, and you know going back to sign infamous now with ghost. I loved finding out more about Yuna and lady Moscow and just everyone at the pace that you want to in the world. And that balance I guess my question is because I. do think that's some of my favorite story. Telling him the Games in the game comes from those lines. How do you balance having this stuff? Be Optional I guess if you if a player just wants to go through the main story, but also encouraged people to want to keep going back and revisit these stories in these characters. Yeah Yeah! It's a question you know we From I is long as I can remember. I think I, think earliest pitches of the game we talked about. How we really wanted to create sort of this. Anthology of short stories. know these little little side branches off the main trunk. You know that you could. You'RE GONNA. You'RE GONNA get invited to them on the main truck main story. You'RE GONNA. Get invited them and maybe even once or twice in an engaged with them, but it's up to you hopefully, engaging enough for that story relates to you. It's up to you to kind of go. Finish out the rest of that branch, and we do a lot of stuff like we try to reward you for doing these things but I find that those things are They're good and I'm super glad. Glad reward you in different ways for playing these, but I find that the beauty of those those allies missions. If you will Masako. Norio characters is that they're just they're. They're far more developed in terms of like there are like what they need out of the world in their stories are interesting, and and they all have a different perspective on you and life, and you know in an what I what I think is kind of cool about creating a world like this is that you have to be okay with having content that exists. You're not forced to play. And you have to embrace that you have to because that. That is what makes it joyful when you go on your own ambition to go through it. It's not that you were told to go. Do it was in the Golden Path? And there were versions of the game earlier that a lot of these characters stories were more interconnected to Go Path. Through play, testing and feedback in her own kind of iteration process. We ended up where they are. Which I think is the right spot. which is you introduce them and then? Over your curiosity, we can push them push. You can go enjoy them your own Yossi, and there. Some of them are five or six missions long. And I think that's the right model, but it takes some iteration to get to that that that's spot for us. Even having late in the game the I think it's two missions for Eureka that pop up after you've revisited home. Just was such a such a Gut Punch. In the midst of as Jin, story is starting to come, full circle meant to have this exploration both more into him, but also into her life It's it was like as you were saying I, it felt so much more rewarding because I, saw it out that story within the. Yeah I think that that's A. It's not an easy philosophy to hold you now. as a director or as a contributor designer artist, because it means that somebody is going to get a bunch of people, not GonNa, play your mission bench people are not going to see your artwork, and and it's really hard to like talk about that because I want everyone to who worked on this game at Sakkara Punch to just like the super proud of it and love every moment that they cred tributed, too, but that's one where it's like. Yeah, but your thing is optional, and I can really bad, but it. In these cases it is for the for a greater feeling that. The people that will engage with it will probably tear out will probably love or be maybe even their favor mission of the game, even not the golden path I gave might be their favorite moment in the game nest. Because you, you let them engage it at their own will in. That's A. that's a hard philosophy to to. kind of stomach, but I think it's I. think it's a really healthy one for the type of game that ghost is. It absolutely plays into who I I think. My favorite thing about the game. Is that Me In the act of playing the game, so has to the game halfway in a presents all of these options, but I have to go exploring too, and I feel encouraged and want to explore and of my favorite times playing have just been putting a dot on the map letting the wind guy. A thousand kilometers, and if I if something stops me, stop if it doesn't I just keep going until something else. Interest me awesome. It's a calming experience which I don't often say I think about games at the moment. That's exactly how I played, too I would just put a marker somewhere completely random very far from me and just go there and see what I ran into along the what along the way with stories popped up which new characters I would meet, that would show me points of interest and stuff like that. and I think that that loop was really smart in terms of having sort of random gangs of bad guys. Patrolling the land and you'd run into them, and they'd have somebody kidnapped, and you'd rescue that person and that person would tell you another place to go. It felt like you're constantly pulling on these little threads. and I loved that so much was did that did that all take awhile to come together? Like outside of the wind is sort of the way the. The optional stuff and the sort of like randomize character you know excursions and stuff all interconnect. How how was it bringing all that stuff together to create the flow that you guys ended up with? The I I you both sound like you've played it exactly the way that I would recommend somebody to play, which is like hey, you know every now and then just throw down and go that direction and see what you find, and and if you don't find some great than go to your Golden, Pastora that's awesome, but try it, and because it's. In this is true for even when we're doing play testing that we did find that that was some of the ways that people would enjoy the game the most which is awesome. will you're talking about that? Like the ecosystem imbalance of people who tell you where stuff is in? How many patrols are there that stuff I'll tell you? We tweak that probably. Maybe until weeks before gold I think. Exactly the number on no top ahead, but is very late. We tweak those numbers because. because the sense of owning the curiosity, and like not having everything told you. was so important to the global feeling of enjoying just like exploring throughout the world, and as soon as you're told, were too much. Stuff is or too many things around your map. It becomes a different problem like you're kind of you either you either go into. Let's just go through the checklist which. Is Fine I think if you found them on your own but can be exhausting for some people because they're like Oh God. There's a ton of stuff to do, or it's kind of a turn off because you already know what it is, and you don't think of anything else over there, but they're actually might be if you if you actually went look, so we actually ramped down the people that the amount of people that would tell you where things were quite a bit. It used to be far more. part of the emergent processes I've almost everybody who talked to tell you. Something is, and it would put a thing on your map and We found that to be Super Smart System, and I'm so glad that we have it, but we put it in a very specific way in a very specific amount of things on the map total. Total that it would ever tell you about so that you still had your cool moment of like i. don't see anything over here on this. I'm going to head that way and finds things along the way now balance. It's really it's really tricky. Because again it goes up to that thing. I was talking about early. Enough loss of being okay with things being skipped and. That if you don't want to be so much that you don't have any information, that would be bad too right so it it is takes time to to work out, but the team did that. No, no a healthy fund way but I think even when you like clear. Mongol, Camp and Clears up a little bit. You still get a question mark. It's not even like yours, a hotel or something like that. And it's sort of it to me. It fell It felt like A. SORT, of natural to the universe that you guys were setting your game in this is this is like a long time ago. There is those no yelp. There's no google. So it seemed natural that you'd find a random person on the street and be like Oh. Thank you so much. There's this awesome restaurants. You should go check it out. Right I really doug. That I played a ton of the game in Kerr. Asala Mode Oh cool and that was. It was really it was really difficult for me. 'cause you made such beautiful game central? And I think it's I think it's. Beautiful in a different way in Curacao mode. But there was just something so special about about like heading into conflict or a story be or coming into a new environment. or it's all black and white, and there's that film green crackling, and a I read that you guys even did some stuff with the music to make it feel almost like it was coming through old speakers or something like that. Yeah, how how how how did how did you develop that? I I know. That's like obviously. It's something that you're studios. Really proud of especially since you've got endorsement from the family. It was a that was A. That was a I. I probably will put that in my top list of my entire career as like being apart process because. I mean it's just. It's just why just kind of a wild thing that you don't go into making video games because you expect to go through that process one day, yeah. which is probably why it's cool is that it's different. You know, but. The. We knew that we WANNA. Do Black and white mode I mean I think i. I don't remember when we first talked about it, but it was definitely really early Redo black and white vote, but again it got kind of pushed towards the end of the project, and then once things started to. You know you can sit in the world and you could be like. Oh, my goddess stunning! It's really a beautiful I feel I. Do feel like I'm. There's moments of this I feel like movie. It's coming. It's coming together. And, then we're like okay well. We definitely have that mode. Let's are planning for it. And an I got version of it in that was a very early version of it with a sliding team and Like what do we call this thing? and You Owe Samurai cinema or classic. Why can Wyatt our traditional La just things? You know cool cool names. And member WHO's I may was Brian Studio head. I don't remember somebody was like. When we see if we can call it, Chris Allen Mode. And I thought that was brilliant and I was like. Yes, can we? What was that process so I reached out to. One of the people that I think he deserves a special shout at his name as a relay Katami. He's on our Japanese producer. He's a helped us since the very almost since the very beginning, and he helps coordinate all of our feedback through Japan, and said Hey, you hey, who's now a dear friend of mine. I was like. Is this possible. Could you look this up? And he and the Japanese team reached out to their to their state across our state and worked out You know. They wanted to see video so I. Put together a video, and then I redid it like three times because enough. People on time video, but I was like Austin. Even Brian Our leauge rendering Guy Jasmine. He was not good. No. Though I kinda Redid it a couple of times and then eventually Is this. Is it I? I looked at so many movies measured the black and white. You know in our game. You know as you both played it. Daytime Times. There's indoor's whether there's rain. There's fog and so like you have to look at movies that have all of these things you can't just be like. Here's a movie. Here's a sample. It's the black. Man Like you gotTa. Look at all these because they exist in our game and it's a filter that'd be going over all of these and so I finally got to the point where I was, I had good black levels. White levels has cool noise. We sent them a video and and It took a little bit of time back and forth, but eventually we're like asses cooling reach an agreement. They were cool with it so. Yeah it was a it was a coup processing showed up. Is Mode teams all shit? It's called. Is it was pretty cool goal process. It has a dream come true. It's so awesome on a historical level. Because obviously you're seeing the game through its you know from the reveal trailer to now there's clearly a love and Joe Majd to the cinema and the storytelling that come in the John Mara, before it, and so to have that encapsulated as a mood that you can jump into starting to such a great I. Think like touchtone full circle thing as a fan of genres well. Also I mean the. The audio! From from like A. A gigantic Blue Tang Fan. It's it sounded like like RISI's sampling. VHS, tapes of sword slashes, and like there were moments. Paint that game and I was like I expect like method man rapid right now because. If anyone was intended, but that sort of got me on a very very like neural level I was like Oh my God like this is. This is quietly the best. Wu Tang game ever made since. The fighting gave. The quote somewhere I feel. That's. But. Our audio director Brad he that's all him he was like. I have an idea that guy's a wizard, so that usually meant something cool and he. It was like we have this special thing that we developed internally at Sony that replicates old processes from like you know fifty sixty s something like that radios and TV's and and And and he he kind of took that filtered it and figured out the right 'cause he was like. If you do too much over, you know, we wanted people to play lengthy amount of times and if they wanted to the Chrysanthemum. View too much, and it becomes incredibly fatiguing. Like, not watching move hours possibly thirty hours. You know so. You got a nice balance between that and something that you can you know Listen to over and over again? I- legitimated Curacao Mode for Poly Twenty five thirty hours and I think that I like maybe fifty sixty into the game. So how yeah! That's incredible. Yeah, along along with that and to me. It was surreal to play an open world game almost entirely in black and white. That was just I've never done anything like that before and. It was such a cool. It was such a cool experience. One of the challenges with eggs I would add is like since it's black and white. There's there's missions that use color as guiding, and so there are. There are a few missions of. It really struggles with, but for the most part we redesigned icons on the map so that it would work with answer, so you're not just looking at two icons ones. This color ones that color and we just changed the icon Lopate, but but yeah it, it's it's generally speaking. You can play through most of the game with it, which is just crazy. Yeah I think there was one mission where they're like find. The purple flowers was like Oh! I was to right back on, so that was good. Leads to so many great visual moments, and as you were saying I know we're running short on time I. don't want believe the too much, but I, genuinely really loved, and as pointing to earlier the the soundtrack and the way both game uses it. It comes in from quiet to loud, but also how the score changes both from the combat setting to the open world setting you know. Moments I would say not settings, but. That Jackson position as well as even on the side, the remixes that were coming out sort of in the lead up to the Games launch. There's so much great musicality and artistry. Bear that I think really. Elevate, so much of what's going on there on visual rebel to a works so well in tandem. You know there is no single discipline that contributes more to the game. The music like a known this case we have to composers, a team of people that obviously help implemented like their artistry is like. White just level things up so much like a scene without music in a scene with music. There's a world of difference in generally speaking I know it's not one contributor. There's quite a few people that make it happen. Processing and implementation, but it's insane. What music can do in for this game? It's it's. It's one of the best parts of the Game I. Think is the the the artistry behind the music in the soulful fullness in is is really I listened to it a lot. I love and then we tokens the glitch mob. Which is just? RIDICULOUSLY COOL! Yeah, it's an awesome combination i. do think as you were saying. It elevates so many great moments, but really. A drills home like the emotional undercurrent of everything that's going on in the game. Unfortunately. We're pretty much out of time. I think Brandon I could keep talking there so much. We love and really enjoyed about the experience and are continuing to enjoy. Time in this world, so Jason Thank you so much for taking time. We really appreciate it. SUPERFUND and thank thank you to your studio for. bookending this entire console generation with my favorite games. I I don't know if that was ever the plan, but the way that
The Rundown: Open AI API
"Yeah Open. It is an interesting company. It's taken a bit of a meandering path to where it is today. Their goal essentially as I understand, it is generally. So the idea of generally is one day perhaps if you've seen any robot, if you like ai late nineties, era or anything else. You've got a that perform pretty much any tax. That? Human can do I'm probably hers. Oil were not there or very far from there, but that is again as I understand it their goal. Is Not fortunately or unfortunately as simple as saying. Hey, we're going to build. Generally either are steps in between. Opening has released a lot of technology in the past, an open source that's things like GP, t two, which is our natural language generation, a framework, and then last week or the week before GP d three and. This is incredibly powerful stuff and the a the API that they just announced is something that allows people to do that without having to train at themselves without having to train themselves and still get the advantage. Get the benefits all the. Billions and billions of inputs that is using to train these models. So if you are building in any kind of compositional edge and Then essentially you can use this. To help you figure out what is what is the people are are actually saying based on the training data of mosses and massive amounts. A little bit. Yeah, so if they're actually doing a couple of things are though throwing the input and output handling, so they have some natural language understanding where they can tell you. Hey, you know this information is the one that the best answers your question, and that's actually why we've been working with goalie for the past few months as we are integrating it with our search, so that you can ask a question and get an answer back. Just like on Google, or you ask a question like A. How long can I leave chicken out of the fridge? And you get that box up top that just gives you the answer you know we. That's what we're doing without goal with A. But they're also doing natural language generation as well so this this stuff is pretty pretty wild when it works, and it doesn't work all the time, but went does is pretty crazy where you can essentially seed it with some information, not through training but at. At generations. And it will generate the text back for you so a few weeks back. I needed I need a fake books and a titles I needed. any title I need descriptions as well so I was able to create some of those titles automatically just by giving author name and John Mara. So for example it was able to create a self help book called Hello. You're not a terrible person. Yeah Yeah, a lot of these book titles. I had to go and confirm that they weren't actually books as like. This is This is pretty amazing and then further I was able to give it a little bit of seating for a description as well, and so these were these were ones where I worked a little bit less often, but still about fifty to sixty percent of the time it would come back with a review of the book or Synopsis Of the Book and I go. Yeah, that's probably what the book is about well. That's you could. Almost probably that's probably how you. How book might be written in future. That sounds I think all right now
I Want To Sell My Books. Do I need a Website?
"So today skewed any Wednesday. I was asking. Hey I want to sell my fiction books. Do I need a website? Can some strain on Amazon? I recommend having a website having a presence online You can still saw Amazon and you can actually sell them on the book on your website before they go to Amazon and you can control that path and they can go straight to Amazon off your website via link. You can also sell your books if you want yourself if their books and you can use a platform like Podesta to do both your web presence your website as well as your e book sales now one of the things a lot of great authors. It do. Is they sell packages with their books or they sell other products that your audience would be interested in on their website of say for example you write fiction books. They're mysteries. Maybe you're really good at the whodunit type of John Mara and you WANNA sell. Maybe an animated series. I know there's a lot of authors that do this where they basically create a mini series. Be a ten parter with ten different stories and it's a video series. They just sell it as a package. And it's just an animated series. They get an animator to come and make some animations and they do a voice over the author actually does a voice over over the animations and then they sell this over and over and you can do this podium and sell access to these stories and a lot of readers love this because they are wondering. Hey what does Dr Smith look like the one from the novels I love and you can put a face to the name with the animation and then the voice overs in the intrigue in the music a lot of different products can be sold off your website because your readers love your books and that way you can expand your revenue and you can then continue to have that funding to continue to write great books. That's awesome of that business when you make more sales when you make more revenue allows you to have a little bit more freedom a little bit more creativity to make great books or to make great products or art.
"john mara" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"They were good still better they want the second best team in the NFC west San Francisco is better New Orleans was better Hey is that it's about sever Cisco data belong in the same field the point is this you have a quarterback they still gonna be there this year next year you're after that try to win the Superbowl prone at talen Rogers Richie and don't help at all by taking a quarterback I'm not concerned about a Rogers feelings see anybody who's making the argument JJ why you feel sorry for us no no that's not the point the point is I have a quarterback still went he's an icon I'm building around him he's a forty one thirty six I just got a lot of football left in a get him a receiver get a big time defensive back get him a player that can help win a championship your welcome to do that on exteriors the answer is no now he turns out to be a stud quarterback and takes the torch from Rogers looks a lot better era's gonna be ticked off but I'm ticked off is a Packer fan because my team should be trying to win a championship I made the NFC title game last year and mile see my general manager putting much of an emphasis on trying to get better for twenty twenty that is the issue not L. Rogers Felix Fornshell good stuff across the board might thanks Mike freedom across the way on the other side you guys were outstanding as always we calls we'll be back same time same place manana Allah Jerry coming up with the warm up you got boomer geo they're coming up.
Giants' Eli Manning retires after 16 seasons, 2 Super Bowls
"The giants quarterback Eli manning officially retired today owner John Mara introduced the giants long time signal caller noting no one will ever again where number ten for big blow manning a kid from New Orleans says he feels like a New Yorker into the giants fans you're definitely unique but I love you for that talked about remaining tough and clutching close games winning two Superbowl MVPs and ultimately earning the nickname easy eight I would make the fans more comfortable about was a more rah rah guy but that's not me admitting it's hard to walk away but noting getting one last chance to play in leading the team to victory over Miami this season made it a little easier I think there was my farewell James foreman W. O.
Giants owner John Mara hopes rookie Daniel Jones never sees the field this season
"Rookie quarterback daniel jones solid performance in the preseason debut at a lotta giants fans getting excited about this year but they might wanna pump the brakes after hearing pain what giants owner john maher said when asked how he'd like this season to unfold ideally like unfolding for the seat of beyond hope. Eli has a great a year game. Never sees the field. I mean in an ideal world that you'd like to see that by the end of the day is going to be decision by the head coach to win for if
"john mara" Discussed on NFL Live
"Here's what he said. You're a part of a major quote housecleaning. Yeah. You're gone adele's gone alleviate Vernon and the list goes on and on. What was the biggest surprise for you aside, from yourself? It'd be between snacks and OBI Jaycox next to the best run. Stop on the he made everybody's job easier, then you got OB J the best receiver in a game. And you get rid of them, because you think he's a one problem that's a leader, right there. You know. And that dead turn my hate around. I don't know what they're talking about, and why they always giving him a bad name as brother for me and everybody in the locker room. He made everybody in a lockdown with smiling, and he went out to work H and everything. He didn't say, nothing when he came to plan the football game, he didn't say, nothing can the practicing all they wanted to do was win. So what was the culture that you were part of supposedly, New York, they didn't want any more, thank guys would platforms? Honestly, I think guys that head of up there as kind of date. Thought was big and did a team which after like, none of was was big into the team. We all we wanted to do. I know myself, snakes, Odell Lovie, we wanted to do is win, and we spoke up because we had to get them to listen to us, we had to get them to get us winning pieces to help us at least be contended are put something on the field. That's gonna make help us win. And you guys were to vocal about that. I think so. I think we focal. And that platform was bigger than the giants giants owner, John Mara said it killed him to see you go. Did you see that he actually text me what the text, you say? You see, I appreciate everything I did we differed organization will love to keep you around the door's always open if you need anything, and then I expect I sat shit everything always love. I appreciate you giving my first opportunity to play. But now you still you still see me twice a year. That's. John, Maher's coup, your your co at Tam. This is really a Dave Gettleman decision. Yeah. As they've got him. Did he ever give you an explanation? They've got him. Never even talk to me. He I mean he had coming around as she can say, good job, fellow something like that. I talked to him or anything having a full conversation or anything with him, nothing. I don't he busy. I don't know him. He don't know me. You're going to face those guys twice a year now. What are you gonna give them? I'm about to give him the world honestly, Abe by the get everything that they thought they didn't have, and they wish they had back circle that date. For the next six years next year's a circle. A couple of updates before we go first off on Jerry Hughes, who has an extent, Wendy jury Hughes shunning to extension worth up to twenty three million includes nineteen and a half million dollars guarantees very well for buffalo. Vigneault good pass rush for that team. And he will get rewarded had one year left on his deal that will now time to buffalo through the twenty twenty one season. Well, I mentioned it before a no go for Julio Jones during OT as the falcons receiver were told does plan to be an attendance, when things become mandatory, which would be minicamp. He's looking for a new deal. Shefty, any details there, listen, they've been talking, and we'll see whether they get it done. I think a lot of people feel like they'll be a deal that gets Julio Jones at some point this off season. Look, you got a lot of water Seaver deals Julio Amari Cooper, Michael Thomas lot of wide receiver seeking some big numbers. Jillian aniline gets a new deal today and two year extension. So he stays teamed up with Tom Brady and endowment to new team that looks like he's expected finalize. A one year deal with Tampa. It goes to work for Todd Bowles and he'll wind up replacing journal McCoy with the team release yesterday. We're not as today, the chargers will be back on the field. Tamar. They were the lone team. Not working today. We'll see you tomorrow..
"john mara" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"Richard near with the on the fan right up until Yankee pre-game starting at three twenty five today. We've got Tom Luga our Paul Rosenberg at the controls, and we'll have Sweeney Murdy sometime before the game to talk about the current Yanks. But a guy who's more than qualified to talk about the current Yanks in the past Yanks because he was director media relations for the team for a number of years is now the editor publisher of the baseball digest, which is one of the oldest publications around baseball. And does a great great job with all kinds of interesting stuff. And by the way, used to host to show called the sports connection with me way back in the distant future before most of you were were born. Zero Rick how you doing this afternoon. Great partner. How you doing? How's everything today is pretty good today? Everything is is moving along. Now one thing you should know about Rick. In addition to being big baseball guy. He's also a big big giant fan. And I'm curious if Rick sent me a little Email saying, I've got a pretty strong opinion about the giants first round pick here. So all right. Let's hear it. Well, a strong opinion. But I thought about it long and hard, and I thought back to, you know, working for Mr. Steinbrenner and the comfort I take today as a giant fan who like all my buddies that James cigar on Thursday night watching the the draft. Our jaws kind of dropped. But as I thought about it, I took some comfort in the fact that what Dave Gettleman did, you know, he almost not that he ended in the card, but you know, he could have written on that advance. With Daniel Joan. This is my career. This is my legacy. I'm all in. I'm pushing all my chips to the center that they will. Because what he did. Basically there was he said this is the best player at number six in the draft. This is the guy. This is our franchise guy. So I like in back to Mr. Steinbrenner because I think the same thing maybe a different tone happened today Gettleman with John Mara when I met George Steinbrenner back in nineteen seventy seven when I was publishing baseball quarterly. And I interviewed him. I asked him a question about his management style and his answer. I'll never forget his answer. And it shaped my career with him, Richard. He said he did say, Richard, Richard. Some leaders patents some leaders hours, and I'm a patent. Well, I think John Mara is probably an Eisenhower. Okay. I watched him at the draft in the war room. Very stoic. You know, not a lot of the motion. But just like George Steinbrenner said to me many times when I gave him opinions or council some of them really strong. And some of them were on really significant things that happened in that eleven year period from ninety six to two thousand six he would say, okay, I hear you. We'll do it your way. But you better be right or it's your blank here f in job, right? A three letter word. But anyway, that's what he'd say. So in his own way. I'm sure whether John Maher said this or not I'm sure that Dave Gettleman. He knows this is my legacy. This is my job. This is my career. This is my legacy. So I take some comfort in. Well. Yeah. I mean people are upset because well, he he never we're never going to reach. You know, where we're going to go for the best player in the draft. It's whether it's a defensive player, whatever that's never a hundred percent true because you have to acknowledge your needs, especially if you have a need at the most important position on the field. You're going to have to address that and he was convinced and he's said so since that if he didn't take this kid at number six he was going to get picked before seventeen Redskins dolphins. Right. Denver trades of somebody was going to get them. And he wanted him that badly that he said, you know, what maybe maybe he's with a ten or twelve or whatever. But I'm not going to take a chance. So obviously believed in the kid enough to do it. Well, Dave, you get your guy. And now, it's your you know, what? Yeah. Well, what would you have preferred Haskins at six or would you have preferred you know, going with Josh Allen? What what are your thoughts there? My my thought when they were making the pick was that it was gonna be Josh Allen. Okay. But I gotta be honest with you think I'm speaking for giant fans, even though they may not want to admit it. None of us know anything, you know, did I want she'll SIMS in one thousand nine hundred seventy nine. I didn't know who Phil Simms was state. George. Maybe it wasn't in today's you know, social media environment in twenty four hour a day twenty four hour a day cable, you know, but George Young and in a different environment. You know, he he he went all in. You know, Phil Simms was the guy that he believed was going to take the giants in the Super Bowl. He was right. But you got to hope, and you gotta take some comfort in the fact that the general manager of the giants believes this is the guy. I don't wanna hear this three years. Whatever, you know, this is this is your opening day starter in twenty twenty he's going to get in this year. And if he's not the starting quarterback twenty twenty then they would probably made a mistake. But the bottom line is none of us know anything from Josh Allen or Haskins Oliver, whatever that's what these guys are being paid a lot of money for and this guy went all in. He put his legacy in his career on the line. So the clock. Has started. Well, the exactly I mean when I asked myself yesterday, how many Duke football games that I watched last year zero how many Kentucky football games that. I watched last year zero have I seen tape. I've seen some highlights. Have I read up on what? Experts like everybody else. Yeah. The experts think this, okay, that's their opinion. But I haven't scouted this guy. I haven't talked to this guy. I haven't watched him work out. So I have to trust. If I believed that Gettleman has an eye for talent, which you would think after all these years and football he might have a clue that well. He's got a philosophy. He's got a philosophy. You don't you don't draft for need. You don't make reaches base. If you look at his philosophy and what he did in this draft. You know, as I said, he he he went all in. But I'll say one last thing, and that's the giants fans have some role in this too. Because if you're going to let this guy go out in November December whenever he gets you in a game, and he starts off. Oh for four overs. Whatever, you know. And the giant fans are on that's not helping that's not helping that's like that's like going back to the sidelines in his teammates getting on them and stuff. So, you know, listen, we all got to take a step back. We all got to take a deep breath. This is the pick. While you need to know is if you if you love it, if you hate get them in and right now, there's a lot more people that hate them. Hey, he's put his legacy on the line here. A guy gave him a lot of credit for that. Yeah. Exactly. I mean, the the fossil I'm pushing shifts to the middle of the table. He did his and look. Okay. So he's sixty seven sixty eight how many years is he going to do this? Anyway. So I get that. He might just say, well, you know, if it doesn't work out, and I lose my job well tire. I yeah. That's what I was gonna say. I don't think he's thinking that way. I think he's thinking, you know. All right. I had Carolina. I've had a long career Venice Super Bowl all that kind of stuff. But this would be the capper if I get that franchise quarterback much like, you know, our old friend or any, of course, he went. He drafted world didn't draft. He got UI in a trade. You know that few people. Remember, you know, it was with San Diego San Diego got him. I made it. Hey, richard. Well, it's been that for the last few days, and I've I've had a hard time with with fans who just hated hated. And they say, well, you know, what you're going on a little knowledge is dangerous. And you know, you know, more than people who are paid to do this professionally spend twenty four seven working on this. So I'll trust your judgement over Dave Gettleman and the giants coaching staff. So we'll see how that works out. Okay. We talk about baseball. So so are you as flabbergasted as I am by this Yankee, I can't even call it a triple eighteen, but almost be team winning the way they are. And just you know, doing this without all their stars. And with all these injuries. It's just amazing to me that guys have never heard of our winning games for the Yankees. Well, everybody said it by now. But this is like the team we used to take over the lake lan- for a spring training game. You know, you look at the outfield. Field it on Friday night against the giants. And you're looking at this team and saying, you know, how are they doing this? But Richard, I gotta tell you. I think it's one of the three or four best stories in baseball this year. I mean, I it's inconceivable the hand were dealt with fifteen players going on the DL, and you know, all along. Alfred. The one guy. They can't lose the one guy. They can't lose. Well, they lost Aaron judge and. I think it's an amazing story. Everybody's saying we just have to hold onto until we get our players back. We get. But you don't know when they're coming back. You don't know what you're getting when they come back. You don't know if somebody else is going to go down if the just don't know. So it's not as simple of let less less. Just hold down the fort. You know, stay close until the you know, the a team comes back. That's not the way the game is played. But they're doing an incredible job. They're fun to watch. They're having fun. And one thing I'll point out here is this is really a testament to Aaron Boone. I mean, Aaron Boone if you watched him, and everybody's critical that he's very professorial in his press conferences, he's never too high too low. That's exactly what they need in this situation. He never gave you the woe is me. He never asked anybody to. Feel sorry for them. He he never used it as an excuse for winning for losing a game. I think you're seeing now what the Yankees saw Aaron Boone. Although they could never have foreseen. You know, what's hit them? It's really really is a remarkable story. I don't know if you've read the Klapisch book. No. But but it talks about that. And and you know, it they knock Girardi a little bit. And I'm sure Brian Cashman was a huge source for this book. Bob hasn't told me that, but it's pretty obvious reading it. But they thought that Girardi was wound a little bit too tight that lasts. You know, the last season that he managed that. They actually got the with win one game in the World Series that it kind of given up, and then all of a sudden I started playing well, and he was back engaged in it. And they just thought that he wasn't the right match to be a modern day manager and Aaron Boone had all the qualities that they want it, you know, not just being a player's guy. But the intelligence the heart of the the level headedness where he never got to high never got too low. That's what they want in a modern manager. Well, that's correct. Going back to Joe Girardi. Right eleven years, or so, you know, Joe Torry everybody has an expiration date at some point. You know, your message isn't getting through as much. I it happened to Joe, Tori, who was the perfect guy for that team from ninety six, you know, everybody used to say not everybody. But people would say, you know, he inherited Buck Showalter team. And you know, he kinda got lucky right place at the right time. No, he was the right person at the right time because he was what that team needed. You jump ahead nine or ten years. You know, maybe the message isn't getting through. Maybe they need a little bit more fire a little bit more disciplined. You know, you go to Joe Girardi, you know, couple years later, you're in the World Series the competitive every year. But then when you analyze things you decide you want to go in a different direction. Everyone having heck Richard as the PR guy. I had an expiration date. It's time for somebody else..
"john mara" Discussed on The Rich Eisen Show
"That's why these things weren't understand that the way you understand how that doesn't really make any sense. It's the way it works. It's his ton. It's turn. He's up. Well, he will not up. Now, he would be up. In a year. And has he's basically, I don't know if he is in fact, saying behind the scenes ongoing to either get a contract now or never with you. And I'll go year to year and franchise tag. It'll be so prohibitive. You're gonna wanna get gave me get rid of me. You know, what the one team though that? I don't think would set a precedence and signing a contract that has a sliding scale depending on what the salary cap is the one team that will not break presence is New York Johnson is the team where the the owner said were we talk about arena league football. With the concept of changing the onsite kick to a one-shot fourth fifteen ten from the twenty five. This is really. I don't see John Mara saying, you know, what here's how we're gonna handle the end game scenario of Eli manning. Here's what we're going to do. We're going to acquire. Russell Wilson right now and pay him thirty some odd million dollars a year. Give him the contract that he wants including a sliding scale for for for salary cap. Breaking that precedence in leaving that in the laps of the other thirty one teams that are gonna have to sign their franchise quarterback one day and tell ally you're done now. That sounds out of the realm of never happening. But you get rid of the UI manning for Russell Wilson, though. And pay him thirty something million dollars a year. Really pay. I mean, oh Dell's gone. I don't know a sacred stone a rookie deal. You don't do that you draft the quarterback, and you pay him nothing and try and win the when the damn thing in that first opportunity Seattle. Yeah. That's what you do. Now. You don't just acquire the guy out of the blue at age thirty and pay him an an and get a monster huge s contract..
"john mara" Discussed on The Rich Eisen Show
"I think organizationally they took a hard left turn in the middle of these, and it was subtle and sort of flew under the radar, but if you wanna go back to the Tober meetings, and the giants are really struggling and John Mara said publicly we need to take a hard look at this. And we may not be doing it overnight. And I think what has been the case in New York for the last five six years that roster was broken, and they were able in two thousand sixteen the ban date it, and they go out and sign a legitimate burning to north Yankees snacks Harrison, and then they make the playoffs season when everything went right, right? And then the two seasons after that they were chasing that success. Like they felt like they were a lot closer than they actually were. I think in the middle of last season. What happened organizationally was the people that building came to the realization, we're not as close as we think we are. We cannot be operating like a win now organization. That's not where we are. And I think that they were laid on that they certainly realize that earlier, but I do think in the middle of the season they came to that realization that they need a four on rebuild. And so I don't think we can relate anything they do now to anything that they did before November October November. And I think now they're going through a rebuild. The question becomes is. It worth having a great great great player. But a guy who did wide receiver who can be a pain in the ass around when you're looking to rebuild maybe bringing young quarterback game. You're gonna be trying to fill your building. But talented young guys or do you go and flip them for some capital? So you've got a little bit more to rebuild your team. And so I know a lot of people are trying to just oppose this against the moves. The giants take off season. I don't do that. Because my my feeling on it is there was an understanding that was arrived at the middle of the season. And they're now as a result of that going into a foreign. So then if you're in a full rebuild, then then you can't you can't start your two time SuperBowl winning franchise. Face future hall of Famer certainly ring a hall hall of Famer locally, we can have an argument about ally in the actual hall. That makes no sense. Then I mean, so so the court you even mentioned bring a young quarterback. And I assume it's going to be Dwayne Haskins from from your alma mater or could be surprising Kawamori, we could hit that in a second. But the question for me is what did he lies gonna get a bonus just for being on the team on Saturday? This is this is it this. They gotta make this whole thing. Now, don't they? I think you have to look at it though. Like you have to deal. I'm marrying douse. The first quarterback. I know that sounds weird because of all the history has there, and you know, it's tough. It's tough thing to look at a guy like that. We've got. That many health wall as a quarterback. But right now, I that's I that's how you have to look at him. He's a bridge to the next thing. I'd he's making seventeen million this year. That's only one million dollars more than tyrod Taylor. Made us the verge in Cleveland last year. So you're already paying about what the going rate for a bridge quarterback is, and you know, you know, what you're getting instead of going out and spending on Ryan tannehill or something like that. Or Nick foles, you've got someone in the building who you know, you understand what he's about. And you hope that playing him having him in the building..
"john mara" Discussed on NFL Live
"And I was just talking to a team yesterday that specifically said to me that they don't want to be the first to make a substantial overture because they know that they also don't want to boost the compensation so talked teams yesterday also talk to teams at the combine who definitely have interests. But in terms of making sure that the price is not too high for them that that's also a concern that I heard as recently as of yesterday. All right. That's been lost. Since it got to hear your voice. The giants are look looking to deal with Bill Beckham issuing here. But if teams call them, and they have the listen and they've come up with lofty demands, if the owner John Mara wants to keep him. I don't think they're looking to move on from him, which doesn't mean that they won't move on from him. And that may just be their stance right now. But there have been teams that called there have been teams that have inquired. They have not been inclined to move him to date don't seem inclined to move him. We'll see if that changes the draft approach. It's interesting good. It's interesting to me that he is even someone that is up for discussion at this point tells me this something's wrong with relationship there somewhere somehow with Odell in either. I don't him know what I'm saying is why wouldn't you just go like this click did you just sign him to? Then started listening to teams who want to trade for him. I understand sometimes teams will make you a deal you can't refuse. But I think look. New point. What is the sense? I have a phone to people. People to. No. But I think that that's a very a stoop point because you can definitely well any of this karate. I agree if this was done. So the fact that conversations are there. But I do want to set did get a tech saying that people feel like, you know, the price again might be too. You know too high. They don't they don't want to be the first to make that Cole. Listen, I I would say you should if somebody calls, you you you should listen somebody says, we'll give you two number ones for that guy. And then the right place in the in the draft, you would have to at least listen to that. But he loved it. But but but I will say this. I don't see anybody. They're not anxious to trade him. I just remember when he signed we sat right up there on that balcony, and we were talking about he had his post-signing press conference during the white near giants polo, which hammer that exactly. Going. New this out. This sounds great. You know what? Here's here's the thing. Also, even though they're going to be transitioning away from ally in another year. Why wouldn't you want a young player and his prime at wide receiver? Australian the new quarterback too. So what I'm saying Moore does this this? I understand you will listen, but it would be a very quick conversation. For me if I was committed to it. I just like that sounds great. But you understand what we're trying to do here. We're not trying to give away a good players. I I hear you couldn't be quilt. Let's talk about news. It has happened. That's congestion. Moore's Joma league Jackson. Yes. Me Jackson so reported earlier today that he is expected to go to the Philadelphia Eagles. This is guy that has been known being run stop in his career coming from the Broncos going to the Jaguars and now actually trying to boost the defensive line of NFC east team that was second quarterback pressures at one ninety five. All right, Mr. Moore. How about Jason Peterson listening? Here's a guy who we believe is destined for the hall of fame. One day was he gonna play one more year while the answer's yes. Now the eagles announced it signed him to a one year contract for this year. So listen, he he's. Spend a little bit more time on the sidelines and he's getting up there in age, but he's still valuable to them especially to help with Carson Wentz. How about quad Alexander? He is planning to be signed going signing with the San Francisco forty Niners where their general manager is formed buccaneer..
"john mara" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"And then we'll get to the note about the NFL producer. Chris tells me that as we were jawing and bandying about various words for that. Pouch that holds the arrows on your back when you are participating in archery, or you're in the hunger games that while we were trying to figure out the word with Andrew bogusch. Here in studio that we had what a dozen calls in about thirty seconds. And you also blew up my Twitter. So yes, in fact, it is called a quiver. I even had a friend of mine from Rhode Island sent me a Facebook message. So that hi, Greg. Thank you. So that I would get the word rights of thank you. Yes. It's quiver the word escaped me. And I appreciate that. You had my back. You can always find us on Twitter or on Facebook after hours with Amy Lawrence. So I have put it off as long as I possibly can the NFL is about to disappoint you again. I don't really know how to sugar coat it. Because the outrage the outcry may have died down when it comes to the bad. Call the miscall the no pass interference call. Some of you probably have choice are words for it at the end of the NFC championship. But right now. There is no formal proposal on the table to change or expand instant replay. In fact, there's not even a formal recommendation in the competition committee. So this is taking place in Indianapolis in advance of the combine to me, this is actually more interesting. But that's just me. They've got the competition committee together, and they are taking different recommendations, not just from the committee members themselves, but you know, they get input from game officials. So on Tuesday, it was the officials who had their say. A bunch of different members of the officiating crews in there to talk to the competition committee about what they like to see where or where they shouldn't have replayed changes or any other rule. So it was not just about replay. But that's the big question. That fans are asking right now is whether or not replay will be expanded. There's no formal proposal or recommendation on the table after meeting with the officials, which may be doesn't surprise you a bit. But John Mara. Who is part of that committee is actually said he's skeptical. That enough owners will agree even if they do get a recommendation or a proposal on the table. He says he's skeptical that twenty four of the thirty two owners will vote it into law, and that's how many you need to pass changes through the competition committee and actually make them rules. We talked about this what had happened. And I told you that this is come up in the past about judgment calls pass interference is considered a judgment. Call. So not only is the NFL competition committee and the owners. Reluctant to make judgment calls subject to review and replay. But they also are reluctant to put non calls under the purview of replay. So think about the end of the NFC championship or regulation, at least it was an egregious missed call. There was no flag. Everybody could see it except somehow that official who missed it. The NFL admitted it, but the NFL didn't have to admit it. We all knew it was a missed. Call very rarely will sports fans agree on anything. But you could have a heavy majority. If you took a poll at asked every sports out there every football fan out there there really was no arguing about that. Call. It was missed. So how can non calls then be subject to replay to be overturned? And I still say that the best way to do it. So that not every judgment call and not every non call is review. -able? It's not as though you have to change the rule book to say that every judgment call falls under replay. Or that every non call is going to be subject to review, you're not changing replace so much as you are allowing coaches to have an extra challenge, and you're not limiting when coaches can challenge. So I say take off that ridiculous rule about how they can't challenge in the final two minutes or overtime. That's dumb. Not only are critical calls may then too. But you have less time to make up for them. When they're blown calls or missed calls. And allow the coaches to challenge even if there's no flag that was thrown you still limit the number of challenges. But then you got more eyeballs ear balls and the NFL gets it, right? Because I still generally believe that the league wants to get it, right? The league cares about its image. Which means that it doesn't want to have the conversation after championship weekend. Be about a blown call instead of to really incredible games that went down to the wire and actually both at wanted to overtime. But I'm afraid the NFL is about to disappoint you again. Does it make you feel any better to know that the pitch clock has likely been tabled in baseball until two thousand twenty two? Major league baseball's decided it would rather make minimum batter requirement for pitchers who come in the game. So that's going to be the priority instead of the pitch clock. So it doesn't sound like there will be a pitch clock until two thousand twenty two. Thanks for joining us for home show. Enjoy your.
"john mara" Discussed on KTLK 1130 AM
"You some ranchers on the southwestern United States, ranchers, Texas, and Mexico are saying they're finding prayer rugs out there. Prayer rugs near the border. That means some militant Islamists are coming across. In addition to whoever we think and there's a new caravan starting up out there. Now, I wanna I wanna go back to Pelosi for second on the state of the union thing. Because there's a there's a word that she used in her statement. She the word is security. The magic word social security food, insecurity. She said, sadly, given the security concerns. What security concerns? The house of representatives to see United States capitol. What security concerns if she referring to here. Sadly, given the security concerns, and unless government reopens this week, I suggest that we work together to determine another suitable date. So we can't conduct business as usual because there are security concerns for members of congress. But when it comes to security concerns for the border for average Americans. Screw that. That's not even a legitimate subject. But we're going to shut down the state of the union because of security problems at the cat. What would those security problems be? I know it's all just a ruse. Anyway. Continuing with the audio sound bites. Moving over to CNN this morning. I look I'm convinced. I don't want. Anybody misunderstand things here. I'm convinced. I mean, why does Chuck Schumer? Money's people keep mentioning my name. Why are they running out there saying that I'm the guy running the country determining the shutdown now, I will knowledge that maybe some of them actually, believe it? I have I have always been surprised even though I've been doing this a long time. I have been surprised to learn. What these people actually believe? Sometimes I mean, they they fall for jokes that are obviously jokes to you and me like Trump asking Russia to find Hillary's emails that may have actually made some of these local weeds in the F B. I think that Trump was Russian agent. It was a joke. Muller is investigating it. They might have gotten the FIS award in part because of that line that joke. They don't understand it. They take. Literally things that people say that are satirical. And. In the John Mara parody. And I've wanted to do this on purpose of or is this just one of their techniques. To try to convince people that these jokes are what people honestly believe. So I'm asking myself, do these people really think that Trump was ready to sign the continuing resolution? Until I warned him not to do it. Do they really think that or? Are they just saying they believe it for their brain dead base because they've got focus group data that shows them whenever my name is used their base sends money. My name is a dog whistle. I think my name has become one of the premier fund raising techniques that they have they have spent all of these years. Destroying my reputation lying repeatedly about what I say. And what I think and what kind of person I am. And so within a certain segment of their base. I am Satan incarnate. People who've never listened to me people that have have never taken a time to read any of my transcripts. Don't know. A thing about me other than what is said in left wing media and left wing journalism. So it could well be that they keep throwing my name around because it keeps their base fired up with hatred. And gets their base to send in money. But then how does that explain the media continuing to blame me for this too? Well, the media is an adjunct of the democrat party and vice versa. But listen to this. This is CNN's new day today. Alison Cammarata talking to the chief legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin about the impact of the government shutdown. She said Jeffrey with the damage to the US economy. I mean, that's something to get Trump's attention is is that the game changer today. Jeffrey is the economic hit that we're hearing about going to cause Trump to cave and end the shutdown. I don't think so because remember who started this shutdown? What started the shutdown was Ann Coulter? And Rush Limbaugh saying we have to shut down the government or we're going to abandon the president. I don't think Rush Limbaugh and Coulter have a. Long-term perspective on what's good for the country. They're all about what's good for their viewers in their constituency, and that's who the president has geared his entire presidency towards I wish I can come to you and say, I think I see a way out of this. But I just really don't now folks I'm sitting here, and I know things that Mr. tube, and apparently doesn't and I can tell you, that's just plain stupid. What he said there is intellectually lazy and vacant in the first place. Remember who started the shutdown? What started the shutdown is an cauldron? Rush Limbaugh say now does he really believe this? I think he does I think he's this mind is this obstructed, and this clouded that he is incapable of independent thought I won't being passed off as some legal analyst brilliant guy. He's really a closed minded in curious. Obedient to left wing, agenda items, kind of person anybody in their right mind. Cannot possibly think that I started the shutdown, but they do now you might think I'm crazy for sitting here not taking credit for it. Oh, I take all the credit in the world. I'm just I'm fascinated by these people. And then I don't think Rush Limbaugh has a long term perspective on what's good for the country. Tuban? For you to say that puts you at or near the top of the list of people completely totally ignorant about who. I am and my career and what? This radio program is all about because that's what it is. Exactly all about the long term perspective on what's good for the country. And that's why I oppose you. That's why I oppose CNN. It's why I oppose the democrat party because you and they are not good. For the long term perspective for this country. You are about reordering it you're about transforming it you are about getting rid of the founding, and we have evidence today from none other than Iraq. Beto O'Rourke is out saying in the Washington Post interview. I just don't know if our founding principles serve us anymore as intricate and complex is the world has become. Mr tube. And I look at myself as doing everything I can to stop people like you precisely for the long term good of the country. Isn't it Bob my constituent constituency, I'm an audience. I don't have political power. I'm not involved in that. Probably more of an open minded journalists type than you will ever be. This is just. Mind boggling to me. How anybody you? You cannot have listen to this program. And and think or say what Toobin said now, I understand their objective is to poison minds of people about me. And all this. I understand all that. But I mean, this is just. It's embarrassingly ridiculous to claim. That I and you by the way, don't forget all this criticism of me and all this criticism that Trump is literally criticism of you for listening and for voting. That's what they really hate. When you get down to really really despise Trump wouldn't be there. If it weren't for you. They can get rid of Trump. If it weren't for you. They can get rid of me if it weren't for you. That's who they really hate. The fact that they can't control you that they can't influence you that they can't indoctrinate you that they cannot somehow propagandize you in devoting it supporting what they wanna do which is nothing. About the long-term perspective on what's good for the country. These people win the long term good of the country becomes entirely differently defined. And it's not what's good for the country. What's good for them? And so the president has geared his entire presidency towards. My listeners and his no president make America great again. What is so hard to understand about that? No more complicated making America. Great again. I saw something. I wonder if I printed this out. I think I did it is some some guy wasn't even intending to make a point about the president was talking about China trade relations since the year two thousand. And this guy is chronicling. How only recently has the United States changed dramatically. It's posture and status. In trade relations with China for the benefit of the United States doesn't even mention Trump in this guy, not even talking about presidential politics. Guy was lamenting how we were always in the short end of the stick in dealing with Chinese in matters of trade and only recently has had begun to change with the guy was oblivious as to why he was just he was chronicling historical changes, but not mentioning personalities in. It is exactly what Trump is all about. But they don't understand making America. Great again because they think America is flawed. They think America is immoral unjust. It does not have the moral authority to be the solution to the world's problems because we've caused so many of them. They don't understand American exceptionalism, and they continue to attack the premise of American exceptionalism and the claim that people advocate for it are themselves, racists and bigots. But the overall level of stupidity. Ignorance here is just striking among people who think. That they're smarter than anybody else in the world. I got another couple of soundbites coming out of the break from C span. Some clown calls and starts telling them that. I am the reason for the shutdown in the C span host demands. To know why this caller thinks this and we'll hear that when we get back. Rush.
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"Are two, hours away from the opening bell let's get. You updated on some of the news that you need. To know at this hour US stock futures, higher after a day, that both. The s. and p. five hundred and? The NASDAQ closed at record highs stocks rallying after President Donald Trump announces that. The US is pursuing a new trade accord with Mexico to replace the, North American Free trade agreement Meanwhile President Trump says it's not the right time for