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11:14 min | 5 months ago

"john lorena" Discussed on Not Guilty

"Of men talking about women in that conversation confirmed by others. John Brag that he enjoyed having forcible sex. The friend recalled. He said that he liked to make girls squirm and yell and make them Bleed. Yell for help. Lorraina seem desperate for help but the one thing she wasn't willing to do was end her marriage at that point. She still believed that. Divorce would be immoral. Failing against her Catholic vate but by the summer of Nineteen Ninety one even the appearance of a marriage between John and Lorena was rapidly disintegrating according to Lorraina. John started sleeping with other women. She said he often stole money from her purse to fund his dates. John Rarely had money of his own disband. After his discharge from the Marine Corps he struggled to find and keep a job. The couple relied almost entirely on Lena's income as a manicurist but she didn't make enough to pay their bills. Their cars were repossessed and their house was foreclosed on sometime in the summer of Nineteen ninety-one in order to keep up with the bills and get her car back arena began embezzling money from the Neil Salon. She wrote false tickets for the customer. She served over charging them and kept the difference. She did this for several months when she eventually confesses to John. He was furious the agreed she should come clean to her boss. Janna Basuki Mississippi was angry but she had known Lorena for several years and she understood her desperate situation instead of firing her she dunk. Chlorine is commissions until all the money she'd stolen was repaid with financial strain and John's infidelity constant source of tension. The couple separated in October of nineteen ninety one. After two years of marriage John move back to Niagara Falls to stay with his family. Marina moved back in with Castro's the couple remained apart for nearly a year but they stayed in touch by telephone. Both seemed interested in reconciliation. Despite everything that had happened between them John was still arenas I love. She admitted I was scared to meet somebody else. A two thousand three study published in the Journal of Family. Violence found that leaving an abuser. Tends to be a process rather than a discrete event and can take several years on average. A victim leaves their abuser seven times before the separation is permanent in September of Nineteen Ninety. Two twenty four year old. John Returned Virginia. He said he and Lorena wanted to try to start over. Again and work on their marriage they moved into the Maplewood Park apartment complex in Manassas according to Lorraina the abuse resumed immediately after they were reunited. Lorena said that by the start of nineteen ninety. Three John beat her at least twice a week by May Llerena finally seemed to recognize their relationship was beyond repair around this time. John told her that his friend Robert was moving into their one bedroom apartment after the experience with Todd. Lorena was weary about having more men's Dan her home but John didn't give her a choice at this point lorraine thought about getting a divorce when she brought it up to John. He told her she could leave but reminded her that he knew where she worked. He would always be able to find her even if their marriage was over. According to Lorena John told her that divorce people usually stay friends and continue to have sex given his past behavior arena took this as a threat he would continue to rape her even if they split up as the abuse continued. Lorraina had the idea to hide a tape recorder in her purse. She thought a tape of John. Reading her might be helpful in divorce proceedings but John discovered the tape while trying to take money from her purse and he flew into a rage. The BOBBITT's downstairs neighbors later said they heard a loud argument with someone banging running. She heard Lorena screaming at John to give back her purse. Lorena said that John grabbed the tape and flushed it down the toilet then. She said John Raped her. Lorena tried to fight him off scratched his face leaving a gouge in his cheek but he overpowered her. Lorena reached a point where she didn't want to salvage things. Her life with John was a nightmare and she just wanted it to be over over the next few weeks. She moved things out of the apartment. She told neighbor she was donating clothes and furniture if they wanted to come by and take what they liked. It seemed that she was finally preparing to walk out of her marriage on Saturday. June Nineteenth Nineteen Ninety. Three arena ran into a neighbor. Diane Hall. She told Diane that she was moving out and looking for a new place to live the next day. John's friend Robert arrived to stay. With the BOBBITT's Robert noted that Lorena was moving boxes out of the apartment. He said the couple seem strained and that they were ignoring each other on Monday. June twenty first Lorraina went to the Prince William County courthouse. She filled out paperwork to obtain a protective order against her husband. She was worried about what John had said that he would track her down even if they split up at the courthouse the clerk helped her fill out the paperwork then let her know it would take some time to type up and enter the order into the computer system. Lorraina told him that she couldn't stay but that she might return on Wednesday to complete the process. She may have decided to wait because she had not yet found her own apartment and was still living with John. Lorena might have realized that if she filed the protective order that day they would have had to separate immediately before she was ready to move out the next morning. John and Robert were gone when Lorena woke up. John had gotten a job. Unloading trucks at Food Warehouse and Secured Robert. Temporary work there as well. Lorraina went to work at the Nail Salon as usual when she came home. The men were still out. John was supposed to work a second job that evening as a host at a nightclub but he was told it was a slow night and he wasn't needed he and Robert decided to go out for drinks instead Llerena. Meanwhile had a quiet night at home. She visited with her downstairs neighbor. Ella Jones and talked about her marriage. Miss Jones had overheard several incidents of violence and she was worried about Lorena when the arena opened up about the abuse. Miss Jones told her that she could come spend the night at her place but she was an elderly woman with several health. Problems and marina did not want to make more trouble for her. She thinks Miss Jones for the offer. Then she went back to her apartment and went to bed after drinking several beers. John and Robert left the bar around one thirty. A M. They had a meal at a Denny's restaurant then returned to the Maplewood Park apartment around three. Am in the early hours of Wednesday. June twenty third. Lorena said that she woke up to find her husband on top of her. He had ripped off the shorts and underwear. She was wearing and forced himself onto her. She said she tried to cry out but he shoved his tongue so far down her throat. She thought she was going to vomit. She kept shaking her head no but he ignored her and rape sure afterward. He pushed her away. Lorraina said she cried and asked him why he did this tour. He told her to leave them alone and let him sleep. Llerena pulled on her clothes and got out of bed. Her head royal as unwanted images flashed through her brain. She couldn't stop the barrage of memories the first time John hit her kicked her choked her and all the time after hundreds of instances seared into her mind she tried to calm herself down to stop her body from shaking to stop the pictures from flitting through her brain but it was impossible. She was so tired and angry. She had reached her limit. She was desperate to escape to be rid of John but it seemed impossible. The whole he had on her felt like a heavy cloak on her shoulders. She couldn't simply shrug it off. It suffocated her. She felt terrified that she would never be free. Llerena went into the kitchen. She thought a glass of water might help settle her nerves as she opened the refrigerator. The kitchen filled with light. Lorena turned towards the counter to grab a glass instead. The first thing she saw was a knife she reached out and wrapped her fingers around the handle. It felt smooth and cool in her hand when she returned to the bedroom. She took the knife with her. Thanks again for tuning into crimes of passion. We will be back Wednesday with the next episode on John and Lorena Bobbitt. We'll discuss Halloween. A- ended her marriage and the trials and media storm. That came after you can find more episodes of crimes of passion as well as olive podcasts. Other shows on spotify or your favorite podcast directory. Several of you have asked how to help us. If you enjoy the show the best way to help is to leave a five star review. Don't forget to follow us on facebook and Instagram. At podcast and twitter at podcast network. We'll see you next time. When true love meets true crime crimes of passion was created by Max? Cutler is a production of color media and is part of the podcast network it is produced by Maxon Ron Cutler with sound design vicary Murphy. Production Assistance by Ron Shapiro and Paul skinned additional production assistance by Maggie Admire and currently madden. This episode of Crimes Of Passion is written by Christina. 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"john lorena" Discussed on Not Guilty

Not Guilty

10:06 min | 5 months ago

"john lorena" Discussed on Not Guilty

"In Nineteen Eighty seven twenty year old. John joined the Marine Corps Johnson that his military career blunted his ability to feel empathy. Saying because I'm a combat marine. I'm trained not to feel emotions. It's really hard for me to understand person who has a lot of feelings. He later claimed that his marital problems with the arena were partly caused by his lack of sensitivity. But this didn't seem to be a problem at the start of their relationship. Llerena was just happy to have his attention after about ten months of dating twenty two year old John and twenty year old. Lorena were married. A justice of the peace performed the legal ceremony on June eighteenth. Nineteen eighty-nine the couple settled into a small studio apartment and Manassas Virginia out of the Castro's home and no longer burdened by chaperones and restrictions. John and Lorena could finally build an intimate relationship together as husband and wife. They seem happy together. But that was quick to change. We'll talk about John and Lorena disastrous marriage coming up now back to the story in nineteen eighty eight twenty one year old Marine Corps Lance Corporal. John Wayne Bobbitt Man. Nineteen year old. Lorena Cayo a young woman who had recently immigrated to the United States from Venezuela they had palpable chemistry and after less than a year of dating they decided to get married but the marriage turned sour almost immediately. They moved into a small studio apartment but they couldn't afford to furnish it for the first month of their marriage. They slept on the floor from John. Wayne Bobbitt's perspective. This was the start of their problems. Laurino wanted too much too fast. John said that Llerena was angry that he could not provide more for her to her. The American dream meant being successful and having a big house. Bull Arena. Told a different story. She was concerned by John's behavior very early in their marriage. She has said that the first cracks began to appear just a few weeks after they moved in together during the July Fourth Holiday John. Lorena took a trip up to Niagara Falls to visit John's family. According to Lorena. John didn't tell her that his family had planned special wedding reception and picnic at their local church. The newlyweds arrived. Delete missing the celebration. When they got there. Everyone was furious. It will Serena's first introduction to John's family. All she could say was. I'm sorry I didn't know after staying in Niagara for three days. John Lorena returned to Manassas. They did not go back alone. John's cousin Todd Bairo accompanied them. John told Lorena that his cousin was going to live with them for awhile. Lorraina was upset. Todd was a stranger to her. She tried to tell John's family that they lived in a tiny studio apartment without any furniture. She felt that they weren't in a position to host guests below arena. Said her husband didn't care. Todd was going to move in with them whether she liked it or not. Soon after marina found drug paraphernalia in their apartment she then discover that todd was a convicted felon and addicted to cocaine and even bigger problem was todd's influence on John while he stayed with them. The two men went out drinking nearly every night. She said about a month into their marriage. She asked to join the men on one of their nights out. According to Lorena the group tried to go to a club called Chelsea's in Washington DC. But they turned away because their attire. Didn't that the dress code they decided to go to another bar. We're taught in John during beer and took several shots. When it was time to go home they all returned to the car and John. Got Behind the wheel. Lorena recalled that John sped down. I sixty six at over ninety miles per hour. Recklessly weaving across lanes. Other drivers beeped their horns in veer to get out of their way at one point. She was so afraid they were going to crash. She grabbed the steering wheel according to Llerena. That's when John Punched her. She started to cry as John. Screamed obscenities at her todd sitting in the backseat simply nodded in approval at Johns Tirade. Lorraina reported that when they got home John dragged her to their apartment and began to kick her slap her and pull her hair a security guard. Officer Francis heard the disturbance in came to the apartment when John opened the door. His demeanor changed completely suddenly. He grew quiet and got his temper. Under control officer. Francis saw arena crying and asked her if she had anywhere else she could go. She told him she was leaving but she was too embarrassed to go to a friend's house. She didn't want anybody to know what had happened instead. She drove to the parking lot of the salon where she worked and slept in her car. John and his cousin. Todd remember that night differently. They confirm Llerena story. The three of them tried to go to a DC nightclub Chelsea's and they were turned away because John was wearing sneakers. Baton said that lorraina became enraged when the bouncer wouldn't let them in. He claimed she punched in scratch. John across the face todd settle Rina continued to attack John when they got home. He did not mention a visit from officer Francis. He said that he left them alone in their apartment and waited in a parking lot for them to calm down then. He came back inside and went to bed after the incident. Lorraina tried to talk to John to communicate that it was unacceptable to hit her. She said that John kind of apologized which gave her hope that she had gotten through to him about a month later. The couple took a weekend trip to ocean city Maryland they brought Taunton long as well as arenas friend and coworker Terry mccumber. The group was walking along on the beach when John. Thought he heard a man whistle at the women. He grew furious. Lorena said John grabbed her by the hair and pulled her to their hotel. Terry mccumber confirmed lorraine his account of the trip horrified by the way John Treated Lorena. She yelled at him to stop. John ignored her and told the women that they were going home. John went back to the hotel to pack up their things. He ordered the group into the car and they began. Dr Terry said that on the drive home. She witnessed John hit and punch Llerena while she cowered in the passenger seat Terry again screened at John to stop but he wouldn't listen. He told Terry that if she didn't shut up he'd leave her on the side of the highway. John Deny that he hit lorraina during the trip but he admitted that he became angry with her. He said that while he was driving through traffic. Llerena and Terry were sitting together in the back seat looking out the window and flirting with men they saw in the cars passing by them on the highway. She did not explain why he perceived their behavior to be flirtatious. He recalled feeling angry in ocean city but claimed that he didn't remember any other details of the trip. After they dropped Terry off return to their apartment John continued to beat Lorena until she fled the apartment. She stayed with Terry that night but she returned the next day. Jason be waiting a professor of marriage and family therapy at Brigham. Young University cited religious and family pressure as one of the most common reasons that women stay in abusive relationships in the two thousand twelve study by associate professor of psychology at Brigham Young University Nuwakot. Yamawaki research suggested that social stigma and fear of being judged often deter victims from leaving their abusive spouses at that point. Lorena and John were still newlyweds. Only married a few months. She did not want to admit her marriage was already a failure. Divorce also went against her Catholic beliefs. So she stayed with John. She was pleased when his cousin. Todd finally moved out of their apartment a few weeks later but John Marinas lives did not improve bio arenas account. John lost his temper and beat her at least once a month especially when he was drinking she felt particularly terrified when he started to choke her robbing his hands around her neck and digging his thumbs into her windpipe L- Arenas Co workers reported regularly seeing bruises on her arms neck and face around the same time John Lorena moved into a new house with more space John said the move was L- arenas idea and Lorena said it was John's both of them have since called the move a mistake since the house cost more than they could afford worries about money added to their attention then in the spring of Nineteen Ninety twenty one year old Lorena became.

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"john lorena" Discussed on Not Guilty

Not Guilty

10:55 min | 5 months ago

"john lorena" Discussed on Not Guilty

"Lorena Bobbitt does not have a clear recollection of what happened after she returned to the bedroom on the morning of June. Twenty Third Nineteen Ninety three later. It became clear what she must have done. But she doesn't have specific memories of going back to the bedroom and confronting John. Before I continue with Lorraina psychology. Please note I am not a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist but I have done a lot of research for the show. Llerena may have had trouble remembering what happened that morning because the memories are too stressful for her to recall. According to a two thousand fifteen study led by northwestern medicine scientists. Some memories are so traumatic that they cannot be consciously accessed Dr Yellen will do leverage the principal investigator of the study said that when the brain stores traumatic memories. It's an entirely different system even at the genetic and molecular level than the one that encodes normal memories this different system of the brain acts as a protective mechanism to prevent a person from re experiencing an event that will cause them distress. When Lorena went into the bedroom. John was in a deep sleep lying on his back. He woke up when he felt a jerk to his penis followed by searing pain. Then he solemn Reena Dash out of the room out of the corner of his eye. Lorena grabbed her purse from the kitchen counter and fled the apartment. She got into her car and hurriedly drove off. She was still holding the knife in one hand and her husband's penis in the other at one point she slowed at a stop sign and try to make a turn but she couldn't rotate the wheel because her hands were full she finally registered which she was holding and it hit her what she had done. She screamed and flung the body part out of the cars. Open window back at the apartment. John was lightheaded from blood loss but he managed to get out of bed and apply pressure on his wound. He shook his friend Robert Awake on the couch. And said gotta go gotta go. It took a moment for Robert to understand what was happening. He thought John was waking him up to get ready for work and he went to the bathroom to brush his teeth then he noticed all the blood. John told him. You'd better take me to the hospital I've been cut. Robert recalled that on the drive over. John said they better be able to make me a new penis when they reached the hospital. John seemed relaxed. He even stopped to chat with the front he recognized in the ER waiting room. Physician approached. John who was holding a bloody sheet over his lap the ER doctor. Seeing the extent of the blood loss thought that John had cut his wrists and asked to see them John replied. It's not my hand that's cut. John pulled down his sweatpants to show the doctor shocked. The doctor telephoned the on call urologists and told him to come in right away while John seemed to almost unnaturally calm during his ordeal. Lorena was in a state of panic. She didn't know where to go so she drove to the salon where she worked there. She threw the knife away in the garbage bin. Outside the store the salon was empty. It was still just around four. Am Selena back into the car and drove to the home of her boss. Janna Basuki Lorena frantically pounded on her bosses door until she was allowed in. Janet could hardly understand Lorena. She was crying so hard when the rain calmed down enough to explain what happened. Janna immediately called the police. By this time. The urologist Dr James Sane had arrived at the hospital to see John. He observed that John's peanuts had been completely amputated at the base. It was a clean cut. He recalled almost surgically precise in. The doctor's opinion cut had been made with a great deal of force. Doctors also estimated that John had lost about a third of his body's blood volume once they stabilized. Him and Jon asked if doctors could fix him but because he didn't have the missing appendage the best they could do was closed. The wound police bring into action hoping to find the penis before it was too late to reattach it. John gave them permission to search the apartment but they came up empty around the same time. Lorraina turned herself into the police station. They had several questions for her. Most of them related to the location of John's severed member. Lorena couldn't think straight. Her heart was racing but she tried to focus on the reason she was here. John had beat her and raped her for years. She had to tell someone she tried to talk about it but the police kept interrupting her. They said they would come back to the abuse but she needed to give them information. I she froze when she realized they were asking her about John's Penis. She knew she would have to tell the whole story but she didn't know how her mind blinked when she tried to grasp the details. She tried to work her mind backward. Replaying the entire morning in her head until she recalled that moment in the car she remembered holding something in her hand seeing the blood and realizing what she must have done she could hardly bear to relive it but she forced her mouth to form the words. She told them everything. She remembered about her escape from John. Lorena couldn't tell the police exactly where the penis was but she remembered the intersection where she had stopped to throw it out the window. She gave them as much information as she could recall. Officers rushed to the scene and searched within five minutes. They were successful. A police sergeant discovered the Pinas by some accounts. He actually stepped on it about twelve feet from the road hidden in some tall grass across the street from a seven eleven convenience store. They packed in ice from the store. The physicians leader joke about the fact that the penis was rushed to them and are Brown paper. Hotdog bag surgeons operated for the next nine hours working to repair the arteries and reattached the penis for some of this time. Lorena remained at the police station answering questions. The officers noted that she was highly emotional and cried throughout the questioning. She told the officer interrogating her that her husband was excited by forced sex and that he had raped her earlier that evening police and brought her to Prince William Hospital the same hospital where John was undergoing surgery so that doctors could conduct a rape kit. It showed that John had recently ejaculated inside the arena. After the examination Lorena returned to the police station for more questioning when the officer asked if she had cut her husband. She admitted that she had when he asked if she knew what she was doing. When she cut him arena replied. No I guess. Not The officers release Llerena. After the interrogation. She was allowed to go back home that morning. But within a few days she was charged with malicious wounding which carried a potential penalty of twenty years in prison. She was arrested and released on a five thousand dollar bond soon after her release. She filed for divorce at that point. John was still recovering from his injuries. His prognosis was positive. Doctors believe that his penis would regain full function but John had other concerns beyond his health as authorities continue to investigate were arenas allegations of rape. John Initially told police that he Lorena had not had sex on the morning of the twenty third but after police confronted him with the of his wife's Rape Kit indicating that his firm had been found in Lorraina me changed his story he then said he might have had sex with his wife while he was still and that was why he couldn't remember doing it. Within a few weeks a grand jury indicted twenty six year old John Bobbitt with marital sexual assault like laurynas militias wounding charge. Marital sexual assault also carried a maximum penalty of twenty years in prison. Prosecutors opted not to charge John with the more serious crime of marital rape which would have carried a potential life sentence because it was harder to prove under the Virginia Standard. At the time in order to prove marital rape prosecutors had to show that the couple was estranged at the time of the attack and the victim had to have sustained serious permanent physical damage. Laurine John weren't estranged at the time of the alleged sexual assaults. They were still living together. And while the doctor recovered John Sperm while performing a rape examination he did not find any significant physical damage till arenas body former lieutenant governor of Virginia S Fire Junior common. That Virginia has a tough standard for marital rape. It's a much tougher standard than stranger rape. We need to look into it. Women's rights advocates took the opportunity to decry. Virginia's Law Susan Feign an assistant professor of Justice at American University said what this law is saying is that you can rape your wife. It certainly is a major issue for the feminist movement. Activists weren't the only ones taking note of the case by that point. Journalists had caught wind of the story Laurien this account of rape and abuse became a footnote as the media seized upon the lurid details of her crime John and Lorena Bobbitt for soon household names all over the country coming up. We'll talk more about the media. Frenzy and the first of the bobby trials now back to the story around three am on the morning of June Twenty Third Nineteen Ninety three twenty four year old Lorena. Bobbitt cut off her sleeping husband's penis with a carving knife. She claimed she lashed out at twenty six year old John Because he regularly abused and sexually assaulted her throughout their marriage right up until the morning when she put an end to it within a few weeks. Both John in the reign of face criminal charges John for marital sexual assault and Lorena for malicious wounding both faced a twenty year prison if.

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"john lorena" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

Crimes of Passion

11:58 min | 9 months ago

"john lorena" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

"Last week we covered how nineteen year old Ecuadorean Dorian Emigrant Lorena Gallo met twenty one year old Marine Lance corporal. John Wayne Bobbitt in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight. We talked about their whirlwind courtship cholorine as allegations that John abused her throughout their marriage until June of nineteen ninety-three at that point. The couple considered getting divorced. I but Lorraina feared that John would stock her if they separated. Despite these worries she made plans to leave John that summer and spoke to several friends the neighbors about her intentions to move out. John and Lorena were still cohabitating on the night of June. Twenty Second Nineteen ninety-three that night John. John went out drinking with his friend. Robert Johnston who was staying at the Bob. It's apartment. The men returned home around three. A M Robert fell asleep on the living room couch and John went into the bedroom. Then according to Llerena John raped her afterward he fell asleep. Lorraina hysterical went into the kitchen to get a glass of water and spotted a knife on the counter. This week will explore the infamous infamous act of mutilation that ended John and Lorraine as marriage. We'll also talk about the charges brought against the couple and the highly publicized. Trials that followed food in our final episode. Next week will track what happened to John and Lorena and twenty five years. Since the media circus took over their wives Lorena Bobbitt does not have a clear recollection of what happened after she returned to the bedroom. On the morning of June twenty twenty-third nineteen ninety-three later. It became clear what she must have done but she doesn't have specific memories of going back to the bedroom and confronting hunting John before I continue with Lorraina psychology. Please note I am not a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist but I have done a lot of research for the show. Lorena May of had trouble remembering what happened that morning because the memories are too stressful for her to recall. According to a two thousand fifteen study study led by northwestern medicine scientists. Some memories are so traumatic that they cannot be consciously accessed. Dr Yellen Will Dula Vich. The principal investigator of the study said that when the brain stores traumatic memories. It's an entirely different system even at the genetic and molecular level then the one that encodes normal memories this different system of the brain acts as a protective mechanism to prevent a person from re experiencing an event that that will cause them distress. When Lorena went into the bedroom? John was in a deep sleep lying on his back. He woke up when he felt a jerk. Eric to his penis followed by searing pain then he solemn Reena dash out of the room out of the corner of his eye. Lorena grabbed her purse from the kitchen counter and fled the apartment. She got into her car and hurriedly drove off she was still holding the knife in one hand and her husband's opens penis in the other at one point she slowed at a stop sign and try to make a turn but she she couldn't rotate the wheel because her hands were full. She finally registered what she was holding and it hit her what she had done. She screened and flung the body part out of the cars. Open window back at the apartment. John was lightheaded from blood loss but he managed to get out of bed and apply pressure on his wound. He shook his friend Robert Awake on the couch. And said gotta go gotta go. It took a moment for Robert to understand what was happening. He thought John Was Waking Up to get ready for work and he went to the bathroom to brushes teeth then he noticed all the blood John told him. You'd better take me to the hospital. I've been cut. Robert recalled that on the drive over. John said they better be able to make me a new penis this when they reached the hospital. John seemed relaxed. He even stopped to chat with a friend he recognized in the ER waiting room. Physician Approach John. who was holding a bloody sheet over his lap? The ER doctor. Seeing the extent of the blood loss thought that John had cut his wrists and asked to see them. I'm John replied. It's not my hand that's cut. John pulled down his sweatpants to show the doctor shocked. The doctor telephoned the on call urologists logistics and told him to come in right away while John seemed almost unnaturally calm during his ordeal. Lorraina was in a state of panic back. She didn't know where to go so she drove to the salon where she worked there. She threw the knife away in the garbage bin outside the store the salon was empty. Eighty it was still just around four. AM SELENA got back into the car and drove to the home of her boss. Jan Zuhdi Lorena frantically pounded founded on her bosses door until she was allowed in. Janet could hardly understand Lorena. She was crying so hard when Lorraina calmed down enough to explain in what happened. Jonah immediately called the police by this time. The urologist Dr James Sane had arrived at the hospital to see John. He observed that John's penis had been completely amputated at the base. It was a clean cut. He recalled almost surgically precise. In the the doctor's opinion. The cut had been made with a great deal of force. Doctors also estimated that John Lost about a third of his body's blood volume. Once they stabilized him. John Asked if doctors could fix him. But because he didn't have the missing appendage the best they could do was close. The wound Kalihi spring into action. Hoping to find the penis before it was too late to reattach it. John gave them permission to search the apartment but they came up empty around the same time. Lorena turned herself into the police station. They had several questions for her. Most of them related to the location of John's severed a member. The rain couldn't think straight. Her heart was racing but she tried to focus on the reason she was here. John had beat her and raped her for years. She had to tell someone she tried to talk about it but the police kept interrupting her. They said they would come back to the abuse news but she needed to give them information. I she froze when she realized they were asking her about John's Penis. She knew she would have to tell the the whole story. But she didn't know how her mind blinked when she tried to grasp the details. She tried to work her mind backward. replaying the the entire morning in her head until she recalled that moment in the car she remembered holding something in her hand seeing the blood and realizing what that she must have done she could hardly bear to relive it but she forced her mouth to form the words. She told them everything. She remembered about her escape from John. Lorena couldn't tell the police exactly where the penis was but she remembered the intersection where she had stopped to throw it out the window. She she gave them as much information as she could recall. Officers rushed to the scene and searched within five minutes. They were successful. A police sergeant discovered the penis by some accounts. He actually stepped on it about twelve feet from the road hidden in some tall grass across the street from from a seven eleven convenience store they packed in ice from the store the physicians later joked about the fact that the penis was rushed to them and are Brown paper. Hotdog hotdog bag surgeons operated for the next nine hours working to repair the arteries and reattached the penis. For some of this time Lorena Llerena remained at the police station answering questions. The officers knew that she was highly emotional and cried throughout the questioning. She told the officer interrogating dating her that her husband was excited by forced sex and that he had raped her earlier that evening. Police brought her to Prince William Hospital the same hospital hospital where John was undergoing surgery so that doctors could conduct a rape kit. It showed that John had recently ejaculated inside the arena. After the examination Llerena returned to the police station for more questioning when the officer asked if she had cut her husband. She admitted that she had when he asked if she knew what she was doing. When she cut him? Marina replied. No I guess not the officers release Lorena after the interrogation irrigation. She was allowed to go back home that morning. But within a few days she was charged with malicious wounding which carried a potential penalty of twenty twenty years in prison. She was arrested and released on a five thousand dollar bond. Soon after her release she filed for divorce. At that. Point Ain't John was still recovering from his injuries. His prognosis was positive. Doctors believed that his penis would regain full function but John had other concerns turns beyond his health as authorities continue to investigate where rain his allegations of rape. John Initially told police that he and Lorena had not had sex on the morning. Wing of the twenty third but after police confronted him with the results of his wife's rape kit indicating that his sperm had been found in Lorraina me changed his story he then said he might have had sex with his wife while he was still asleep and that was why he couldn't remember doing it. Within a few weeks a grand jury indicted a twenty six year old John Bobbitt with marital sexual assault like laurynas malicious wounding charge marital sexual assault also carried a maximum penalty of twenty. Two years in prison. Prosecutors opted not to charge John with the more serious crime of marital rape which would have carried a potential life sentence because it was harder to approve under the Virginia Standard. At the time in order to prove marital rape prosecutors had to show that the couple was estranged at the time of the attack. DOC and the victim had to have sustained serious permanent physical damage Lorena and John weren't estranged at the time of the alleged sexual assaults. They were still living together. And while the doctor recovered John Sperm while performing a rape examination he did not find any significant physical damage till Arenas Lena's body former Lieutenant Governor of Virginia Donald S fire. Junior commented that Virginia has a tough standard for marital rape. It's a much tougher standard than stranger rape. We need to look into it. Women's rights advocates took the opportunity to decry Virginia's law. Susan Vein an Assistant Professor of Justice at American University said what this law is saying is that you can rape your wife. It certainly is a major issue for the a feminist movement activist weren't the only ones taking note of the case by that point. Journalists had caught wind of the story laurine account of rape and abuse became a footnote as the media seized upon the lurid details of her crime. John and Lorena Bobbitt or soon household names all over the country coming up. We'll talk more about the media frenzy and the first of the bobby trials..

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"john lorena" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

Crimes of Passion

06:09 min | 9 months ago

"john lorena" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

"Over over the next few weeks. She moved things out of the apartment. She told neighbors she was donating clothes and furniture if they wanted to come by and take what they liked. It seemed that she was finally preparing airing to walk out of her marriage on Saturday. June nineteenth nineteen ninety-three. Marina ran into a neighbor Diane Hall. She told Diane that she he was moving out and looking for a new place to live the next day. John's friend Robert. Johnston arrived to stay. With the BOBBITT's Robert noted that Lorena China was moving boxes out of the apartment. He said the couple seemed strained and that they were ignoring each other on Monday. June twenty-first Lorraina went to the Prince William County courthouse. She filled out paperwork to obtain a protective order against her husband. She was worried about what John had said that he would track her down down even if they split up at the courthouse the clerk helped her fill out the paperwork then let her know it would take some time to type up and entered the order into the computer system. Lorena told him that she couldn't stay but that she might return on Wednesday to complete the process. She may have decided sided to wait because she had not yet found her own apartment and was still living with John. Lorena might have realized that if she filed the protective order that day they they would have had to separate immediately before she was ready to move out the next morning John and Robert were gone when Lorraine awoke up. John had gotten a job. Unloading trucks at a food warehouse and secured Robert Temporary work there as well. Lorraina went to work at the Nail Salon as usual. When she came came home? The men were still out. John was supposed to work a second job that evening as a host at a nightclub but he was told it was a slow night and he wasn't needed he and Robert decided to go out for drinks instead lorraina. Meanwhile had a quiet night at home. She visited with her downstairs. There's neighbor Ella Jones and talked about her marriage. Miss Jones had overheard several incidents of violence and she was worried about Lorraina when the arena opened up about the abuse. Miss Jones told her that she could come spend the night at her place but she was an elderly woman with several health problems and the rain. It did not want to make more trouble for her. She thinks Miss Jones for the offer. Then she went back to her apartment and went to bed after drinking several several beers. John and Robert left the bar around one thirty a M. They had a meal at a Denny's restaurant then returned to the Maplewood Park apartment around three. Am in the early hours of Wednesday. June twenty third Llerena said that she woke up to find her husband on top of her her he had ripped off the shorts and underwear. She was wearing and forced himself onto her. She said she tried to cry out but he shoved his tongue so afar down her throat. She thought she was going to vomit. She kept shaking her head no but he ignored her and raped her afterward he pushed her away arena said she cried and asked him why he did this tour. He told her to leave them alone and let him sleep. Llerena pulled on her clothes and got out of bed. Her head roiled as unwanted images flashed through her brain. She couldn't stop the barrage of memories the first time John hit her kicked her choked her and all the times after hundreds of instances seared into her mind she tried to calm herself down to stop her body from shaking to stop the pictures from flooding leading to her brain but it was impossible. She was so tired and angry. She had reached her limit. She was desperate to escape to be rid of John but it seemed impossible. The whole he had on her felt like a heavy cloak on her shoulders. She couldn't simply shrug it off. It's suffocated her. She felt terrified that she would never be free. Llerena went into the kitchen. She thought a glass of water might help settle her nerves as she opened the refrigerator the the kitchen filled with light. LLERENA turn towards the counter to grab a glass instead. The first thing she saw was a knife if she reached out and wrapped her fingers around the handle it felt smooth and cool in her hand when she returned to the bedroom. She took the knife with her. Thanks again for tuning into crimes of passion. We will be back Wednesday with the next episode on John and Lorena Bobbitt. We'll discuss Halloween. A- ended her marriage and the trials and media storm that came after you can find more episodes of crimes of passion as well as all of our casts other shows on spotify defy or your favorite podcast directory. Several of you have asked how to help us. If you enjoy the show. The best way to help is to leave a five star review. Don't don't forget to follow us on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast network. We'll see you next time. When True Love Meets True Crime mm-hmm crimes of passion was created by Max Cutler is a production of cutler media? And is part of the podcast network it is produced by Maxon Ron Cutler with sound design by Kerry Murphy Production Assistance by Ron Shapiro and Paul Liebskind additional production assistance by Maggie Admire and currently madman in. This episode of Crimes Of Passion is written by Christina. Pay Me's I'm Lena. Hobbs.

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"john lorena" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

Crimes of Passion

11:08 min | 9 months ago

"john lorena" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

"Now back to the story. Three in nineteen eighty eight twenty one year old Marine Corps Lance Corporal. John Wayne Bobbitt met nineteen year. Old Lorena Guy. Oh Oh a young woman who had recently immigrated to the United States from Venezuela they had palpable chemistry and after less than a year of dating being the decided to get married but the marriage turned sour almost immediately. They moved into a small studio apartment but they couldn't afford to furnish it for the first month of their marriage. They slept on the floor from John. Wayne Bobbitt's perspective. This will start of their problems. Lorena wanted too much too fast. John said that Lorena was angry that he could not provide more for her to her. The the American dream meant being successful and having a big house bull arena. told a different story. She was concerned by John's behavior very early in their marriage. She has said that the first cracks began to appear just a few weeks after they moved in together during the July Fourth Holiday Holiday John Lorena took a trip up to Niagara Falls to visit John's family according to Llerena. John didn't tell her that his family had planned a a special wedding reception and picnic at their local church. The newlyweds arrived. Delete missing the celebration. When they got there? Everyone one was furious. It was arena's first introduction to John's family all she could say was. I'm sorry I didn't know after staying in Niagara for three days. John and Lorena returned to Manassas. They did not go back alone. John's cousin Todd Bairo accompanied company. Them John Toll Arena that his cousin was going to live with them for awhile. LORRAINA was upset. Todd was a stranger to her. She tried to tell John's family that they lived in a tiny studio apartment without any furniture. She felt that they weren't in a position to host guests. The arena said. Her husband didn't care todd was going to move in with them whether she liked it or not. Soon after marina found on drug paraphernalia in their apartment she then discovered that todd was a convicted felon and addicted to cocaine and even bigger problem album was todd's influence on John while he stayed with them. The two men went out drinking nearly every night. She said that about a month into their marriage edge. She asked to join the men on one of their nights out. According to Lorraina the group tried to go to a club called Chelsea's in Washington DC. But they were turned away because they're retired. Didn't that the dress code. They decided to go to another bar or todd and John drink beer and took several shots when it was time to go home. They all return to the car and John got behind the wheel. Lorena recalled that John sped down is sixty six at over ninety miles per hour. Recklessly weaving across lanes other drivers beep their horns and veer to get out of their way at one point. She was so afraid they were going to crash. She grabbed the steering wheel according to the arena. That's when John Punched hunched her. She started to cry as John Screamed obscenities at her todd sitting in the backseat simply nodded in approval at Johns Tirade. Lorraina reported that when they got home John dragged her to their apartment and began to kick her slap her and pull her hair a security guard. Officer Francis heard the disturbance in came to the apartment. When John opened the door his demeanor changed completely secondly he grew quiet and got his temper? Under Control Officer Officer Francis Saul arena crying and asked her if she had anywhere else she could go. She told him she was leaving but she was too embarrassed to go to a friend's house house. She didn't want anybody to know what had happened instead. She drove to the parking lot of the salon where she worked and slept in her car. John and his cousin todd remember that night differently. They confirm Lorena Story. The three of them tried to go to a DC nightclub Chelsea's and that that they were turned away because John was wearing sneakers. Batat said let Lorraina became enraged when the bouncer wouldn't let them in. He claimed she punched in scratch. John Across the face. Todd said Lorena continued to attack John when they got home. He did not mention a visit from officer Francis. He said that he left them alone in their apartment and waited in a parking lot for them to calm down then he came back inside and went to bed after the incident. lorraina tried to talk to John to communicate that it was unacceptable to hit her. She said that John kind of apologized. which gave her? I hope that she had gotten through to him about a month later. The couple took a weekend trip. To Ocean City Maryland they brought Taunton long as well. LESLAU arenas friend and coworker Terry mccumber. The group was walking along on the beach when he thought he heard a man whistle at the women. He grew furious areas. Marina said John grabbed her by the hair and pulled her to their hotel. Terry mccumber confirmed arenas account of the trip horrified horrified by the way John Frieda Llerena. She yelled attempt to stop by. John ignored her and told the women that they were going home. John went back back to the hotel to pack up their things. He ordered the group into the car and they began to. Dr Terry said that on the drive home. She witnessed John hit and punch Llerena Raina while she cowered in the passenger seat Terry again screened at John to stop but he wouldn't listen. He told Terry that if she didn't shut up up he'd leave her on the side of the highway. John Deny that he hit Llerena during this trip but he admitted that he became angry with her. He said that while he he was driving through traffic. Llerena and Terry were sitting together in the back seat looking out the window and flirting with men they saw in the cars passing by them on the highway. He did not explain why he perceived their behavior to be flirtatious recalled feeling angry in ocean city but claimed that he didn't remember any any other details of the trip after they dropped terry off and return to their apartment. John continued to beat Lorraina until she fled. The apartment went. She stayed with Terry that night but she returned the next day. Jason be waiting a professor of marriage and family therapy at Brigham. Young University City cited religious and family pressure as one of the most common reasons that women stay in abusive relationships in the two thousand twelve study by associate it professor of psychology at Brigham Young University New Wakayama Walkie research suggested that social stigma and fear of being judged often often deter victims from leaving their abusive spouses at that point. Lorena and John were still newlyweds. Only married a few months. She didn't didn't want to admit her marriage was already a failure. Divorce also win against her Catholic beliefs. So she stayed with John. She squeezed when his cousin todd finally moved out of their apartment. A few weeks later but John and Laurynas lives did not improve by L. Arenas account. John lost his temper and beat her at least once a month especially when he was drinking she felt particularly terrified when he started started to choke her rubbing his hands around her neck and digging his thumbs into her windpipe. LAURINE CO workers reported regularly. Seeing bruises is on her arms neck and face around the same time John and Lorena moved into a new house with more space. John said the move was is lorraine as idea and Lorraine said it was John's both of them have since called the move a mistake since the house cost more than they could afford worries about money added to their tension then in the spring of Nineteen Ninety twenty one year old Raina became pregnant. LLERENA couldn't understand how her marriage had gone so wrong. She tried to talk to John but nothing she said could make him understand when she explained explained how much she was hurting her he either laughed or became angry. Lorena couldn't remember the last time she felt anything positive until L.. Now but nothing not. Even John could take away the joy she felt being pregnant. She had always wanted to be a mother. You're in fact. She pictured herself eventually having three children. A family just like the one she had grown up in. She had reservations nations about starting a family with John but for better or worse he was her husband and John was close with his own family he always always enjoyed spending time with his brothers and cousins perhaps Lorena thought he would be pleased to have a family of his own Lorena Clung onto that hope. Having a baby would certainly change everything about their lives. Perhaps it would also change John and to a different kind of man but when Lorraina told John about the pregnancy he was furious. He didn't WanNA child and they couldn't afford one he he berated her grabbed a phone book and found a listing for a women's clinic. Lorena said John insisted she have an abortion. John denied night this saying that they came to a mutual decision to end the pregnancy because neither of them were ready to be parents but Lorraina denied that she would ever or have come to this decision on her own. It went strongly against her Catholic faith. Twenty one year old Lorena terminated her pregnancy in mid June of nineteen eighteen ninety. She said she was distraught. Not only because she wanted to have the baby but also because John taunted her before the procedure telling her that it would be extremely painful and that she would not receive any anesthesia lorraine became severely depressed after the abortion. She didn't WanNa talk to John or be anywhere near him in response. She said he began to rape her..

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"john lorena" Discussed on Parcast Presents: Summer of '69

Parcast Presents: Summer of '69

11:19 min | 10 months ago

"john lorena" Discussed on Parcast Presents: Summer of '69

"Also open about his behavior. An acquaintance related time. They were hanging now with a group of men talking about women in that conversation confirmed by others. John Brag that he enjoyed having forcible sex. The friend recalled. He said that he liked to make girl squirm and yell and make them bleed and yell for help. Lorraina seem desperate desperate for help but the one thing she wasn't willing to do was end her marriage at that point. She still believed that. Divorce would be immoral oral feeling against her Catholic faith but by the summer of Nineteen Ninety one even the appearance of marriage between John and Lorena was rapidly rapidly disintegrating according to Lorraina. John started sleeping with other women. She said he often stole money from her purse to fund his dates. It's John Rarely had money of his own dispend. After his discharge from the Marine Corps he struggled to find and keep a job the couple for relied almost entirely on the Rina's income as a manicurist but she didn't make enough to pay their bills. Their cars were repossessed and their house was foreclosed on sometime in the summer of Nineteen ninety-one in order to keep up with the bills and get her car back arena. Raina began embezzling money from the Neil Salon. She wrote up false tickets for the customer. She served overcharging them and kept the difference. She did this for several months when she eventually confesses to John. He was furious the agreed she should come clean to her boss. Janna China Basuki. Miss Basuki was angry but she had known Llerena for several years and she understood her desperate situation. Instead at a firing her she dunk lorraine his commissions until all the money she'd stolen was repaid with financial strain and John's infidelity a constant source source of tension. The couple separated in October of Nineteen ninety-one. After two years of marriage John. Move back to Niagara Falls to stay with his family marina moved back in. With a Castro's the couple remained apart for nearly a year but they stayed in touch by telephone both seemed interested rested and reconciliation. Despite everything that had happened between them John was still arenas I love. She admitted I was scared. Geared to meet somebody else a two thousand three study published in the Journal of family. Violence valmet leaving abuser tends to be a process rather than a discrete discrete event and can take several years. On average a victim leaves their abusers seven times before the separation is permanent in September of Nineteen Ninety two twenty four year old. John returned. Virginia he said he and Lorraina wanted to try to start over again and work on their marriage they moved into the Maplewood Park apartment complex and Manassas according to Lorraina the abuse resumed immediately after they were reunited. Lorraina said that by the start of nineteen ninety three. John beat her at least twice a week by May Llerena finally seemed to recognize their relationship. Attention was beyond repair around this time. John told her that his friend Robert was moving into their one bedroom apartment breath after the experience with todd. Lorena was weary about having more men. Stay in her home but John didn't give her a choice at this point. Lorraina thought about getting a divorce when she brought it up to John. He told her she could leave but reminded her that he knew where she worked and he would always be able to find her even if their marriage was over. According to Lorraina. John told her that divorce people usually stay friends and continue to have sex given his past behavior arena took this as a threat he would continue to rape her even even if they split up as the abuse continued. LORRAINA had the idea to hide a tape recorder in her purse. She thought a tape of John be reading her might be helpful in divorce proceedings. Ba- John discovered the tape while trying to take money from her purse and he flew into a rage. The BOBBITT's downstairs stairs neighbors later said they heard allowed argument with someone banging in running around. She heard Lorena screaming John to give back her purse. Llerena Raina said that John Grab the tape and flushed down the toilet then. She said John Raped her Lorena. Lorraine tried to fight him off. She scratched his face leaving a gouge in his cheek but he overpowered her lorraina reached a point where she didn't want to salvage things. Her life with John was a nightmare and she just wanted it to be over over the next few weeks. She moved things out of at the apartment. She told neighbors she was donating clothes and furniture if they wanted to come by and take what they liked. It seemed that she was finally preparing to walk out out of her marriage on Saturday. June nineteenth nineteen ninety-three arena. Ran into a neighbor Diane Hall. She told Diane that she was moving out and looking for a new place to live the next day. John's friend Robert Johnston arrived to stay. With the BOBBITT's Robert noted that Lorena was moving boxes. Says out of the apartment. He said the couple seemed strained and that they were ignoring each other on Monday. June twenty-first Llerena went to the Prince William County courthouse. She filled out paperwork to obtain a protective order against her husband. She was worried about what John had said that he would track her down even if they split up at the courthouse the clerk helped her fill out the paperwork then let her know would take some time to type up and enter the order into into the computer system. Lorena told him that she couldn't stay but that she might return on Wednesday to complete the process. She may have decided to wait because she had not yet found her own apartment and was still living with John. Lorena might have realized that if she filed the protective order that day they would have had to separate great immediately before she was ready to move out the next morning. John and Robert were gone when Llerena woke up. John had gotten a job. Unloading being trucks at a food warehouse and secured Robert Temporary work there as well. Lorraina went to work at the Nail Salon as usual when she came home. The the men were still out. John was supposed to work a second job that evening as a host and a nightclub but he was told it was a slow night and he wasn't needed he and Robert decided to go out for drinks instead lorraine meanwhile had a quiet night at home. She visited with her downstairs neighbor Ella Jones Jones and talked about her marriage. Miss Jones had overheard several incidents of violence and she was worried about Llerena when the arena opened up about the abuse. Miss Jones told her that she could come spend the night at her place but she was an elderly woman. What several health problems and the Raina did not want to make eight more trouble for her? She thinks Miss Jones for the offer. Then she went back to her apartment and went to bed after drinking several beers. John Robert left the bar around one thirty. Am they had a meal. At a Denny's restaurant then returned to the Maplewood Park apartment around three a M in in the early hours of Wednesday June twenty third Lorena said that she woke up to find her husband on top of her he ripped ripped off the shirts and underwear. She was wearing and forced himself onto her. She said she tried to cry out but he shoved his tongue so far down her throat what she thought she was going to vomit. She kept shaking her head no but he ignored her and rapier afterward he pushed her away way Lorraine said she cried and asked him why he did this to her. He told her to leave them alone and let him sleep. Llerena pulled on her clothes and got out of bed. Her head roiled as unwanted images flashed through her brain. She couldn't stop the barrage of memories summaries the first time John hit her kicked her choked her and all the times after hundreds of instances seared into her mind she tried to calm herself down to stop her body from shaking to stop the pictures from flooding through her brain but it was impossible. She was so tired and angry. She had reached her limit. She was desperate to escape to be rid of John but it seemed impossible. The whole he had on her felt like a heavy cloak on her shoulders. She couldn't simply shrug it off. It suffocated her. She felt terrified that she would never be free. I'm Lorraina went into the kitchen. She thought a glass of water might help settle her nerves as she opened the refrigerator. The kitchen filled with light. Lorena turn towards the counter to grab a glass instead. The first thing she saw was a knife she reached out and wrapped her fingers around the handle. It felt smooth and cool in her hand when she returned to the bedroom Ed Room. She took the knife with her. Thanks again for tuning into crimes of passion. We will be back Wednesday with the next episode on John and Lorena Bobbitt will discuss Halloween. A- ended her marriage and the trials and media storm that came after you can find more episodes of crimes of passion as well as all parkas other shows on spotify or your favorite favorite podcast directory. Several of you have asked how to help us. If you enjoy the show. The best way to help is to leave a five star review. Don't forget to follow us on on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast network. We'll see you next time. When true love meets true crime crimes of passion was created by Max Cutler is a production of cutler media and is part of the podcast network it is produced by Maxon Ron Cutler with sound design by Karie Murphy Production Assistance by Ron Shapiro and Paul Liebskind additional production assistance by Maggie Admire and currently madden? This episode of Crimes Of Passion is written by Christina. Pay Me's I'm leaning Hobbs..

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"john lorena" Discussed on Parcast Presents: Summer of '69

Parcast Presents: Summer of '69

10:27 min | 10 months ago

"john lorena" Discussed on Parcast Presents: Summer of '69

"Were still living together. And while the doctor recovered John Sperm while performing a rape examination he did not find any significant and physical damage till arenas body former lieutenant governor of Virginia Donald Aspire Junior comet. That Virginia has a tough standard for marital rape. It's a much tougher standard than stranger rape. We need to look into it. Women's rights advocates took the opportunity to decry Virginia's Yes law Susan Fain Assistant Professor of Justice at American University said what this law is saying is that you can rape your wife it. Certainly he is a major issue for the feminist movement. Activists weren't the only ones taking note of the case by that point. Journalists had caught wind of the story Lorraine this account of rape and abuse became a footnote as the media seized upon the lurid details of her crime. John and Lorena Bobbitt or soon soon household. Names all over the country coming up. We'll talk more about the media frenzy and the first of the Bob at trials now back to the story around three am on the morning of June Twenty Third Nineteen Ninety Ninety three twenty four year. Old Lorena Bobbitt cut off her sleeping husband's penis with a carving knife. She claims she lashed out at twenty six year old John on because he regularly abused and sexually assaulted her throughout their marriage right up until the morning when she put an end to it within a few weeks. Both John in the Raina faced criminal charges John for marital sexual assault and Lorena for malicious wounding. Both faced a twenty year prison sentence of if convicted. John Face Jury I. His trial was set for November of nineteen ninety-three marinas malicious wounding case was scheduled to take place is two months later in January of nineteen ninety. Four in the months leading up to the court dates the media enthusiastically latched onto the story late night. Television host and Saturday night live sketches were quick to deride the couple even President Bill Clinton quipped about the Bobbitt's amid the fervor anyone even remotely connected to the infamous crime found themselves in the spotlight from Lena's boss Jan Abyss Sudi to the couple's couples neighbors and even the surgeon who performed John Surgery everyone was bombarded by press requests and for the most part they all seemed eager. Talk John Lorena. Bobbitt soon became infamous in response. The each try to take charge of a story quickly spiraling hang out of their control. John Hired an attorney with a background in entertainment law to help him navigate. The sudden media scrutiny on advice from his counsel will John Chose Silence declining all interviews when questioned his lawyer explained but he felt John lack the verbal and mental skills to properly express himself but Lorraina did not stay quiet. John helped her hire a public relations specialist to deal with the onslaught of phone MM calls and interview requests from tabloids and talk shows with his approval. Lorraina appeared in an interview on twenty twenty and agreed to a profile with vanity. Okay Fair magazine. John's attorney was quick to use Llerena strategy against her saying that these media appearances revealed her to be a money. GRUBBING being publicity seeker but Lorraina didn't really fit the description of a master media manipulator in fact her vanity fair interviewer. Kim Kim Masters noted that Llerena didn't come across as articulate. You could tell she wasn't really in place to present her case to the world even so many found Lorena Bobbitt to a sympathetic figure with her petite five foot two inch ninety five pound frame and her soft hesitant speaking voice she projected an almost childlike vulnerability at odds with the gruesome crime of which she was accused accused and for those who had survived domestic or sexual abuse. Lorraina wasn't just sympathetic. They saw her as a heroic avenger and a symbol of righteous anger. The Washington Post noted that she had accumulated horde of admirers. Who saw her as a feminist folk hero? One woman who sent a letter of Support Llerena said that the man in the situation basically got what every woman who has been abused would like to have done but just wasn't able to do. John had his defenders Sydney Ciller. The founder of the National Organization for men INC criticize SELENA's fans for championing a true criminal. He said this was another indication of reverse discrimination and gender bias. As a story grew more and more sensationalized the public's response became as much a part of the narrative as the crime itself. Los Angeles Times Times columnist Robin Up. Karen Reilly chastise both the media and the public for making too much of the BOBBITT's marriage. She observed that the national national press seem determined to turn the case into a historic battle of the sexes that exposed a vicious tug of war going on in the national psyche. But she she argued. Neither of the BOBBITT's should be seen as a symbol for anything other than a sick marriage between too immature. Angry people as as America took sides in the Court of Public Opinion John and Lorena both had to prepare for their actual days in court. Whatever the outcome of these trials all of of America seemed to be watching? John's trial was closed off to the media for privacy reasons because it concerned a sexual assault. But that didn't stop. Reporters and spectators from lining up outside of the Prince William County courthouse the Circuit Court Administrator had to install extra phone lines to handle the inundation of calls. The quiet Virginia city of Manassas was quickly swept up an international frenzy. Many of the residents seemed happy to participate. Pete outside the courtroom enterprising citizen sold peanut shaped cookies and t shirts reading Manassas a cut above the rest inside the courtroom however the atmosphere was more somber. The Commonwealth's Attorney Paul Be Ebert opened with the statement this is is a tale of a tormented woman. Then he let Llerena tell the jury of her torment in her own words. She launched into her testimony. He had some trouble getting her story. Cross arenas nerves rattled as she looked across the courtroom seeing dozens of watchful eyes. She knew that they weren't seeing her. The real her they were only seeing the crazy woman who did something unspeakable to her husband. She was trying trying to overcome that. She was trying to explain how John Meter feel how frightened she was how helpless she felt how angry. How all those feelings boiled inside her until she was driven to do something incomprehensible but it was hard to explain anything when the lawyers attacked her every word and branded her Aligarh and worse there was John? His presence alone made her Trimble. Oh he was seated over at the defense table staring at her shaking his head at her even now after everything he found a way to make her feel worthless Lorraina struggled to find the right language but her limited English escaped her. It was too much pressure. Sure and she felt she was crumbling underneath it as Lorena answered questions posed by John's attorney she sometimes fell silent for long stretches rushes or said that she didn't understand the Washington Post describe marinas testimony as halting and sometimes flustered. The Prosecution's co-counsel Mary Grace O'Brien said I knew. From the moment she began answering questions correctly that she was confused and debilitating ability nervous. In addition to our nerves Lorena was restricted. From telling HER ENTIRE STORY VIRGINIA LAW prohibited prosecutors from presenting evidence about a defendant's prior conduct. They could only discuss the crime at hand in the trial under this law. The judge ruled that Lorena could could only testify about the five days leading up to the alleged rape on June twenty third. She was not allowed to speak about the years of abuse she had endured during her marriage. She couldn't bring in the numerous eye. Witnesses who backed her claims nor could she discussed the arrest records showing the John had been charged with assaulting her in the past last with these limitations place Lorena could hardly talk about any part of her life with John Except for the morning of the twenty third. She told the jury that when John came home after a night of drinking he pushed me and held my hands. I said no twice but John wouldn't stop the prosecution trying to bolster L- arenas testimony by attacking John's character. They brought up his infidelity presenting the jury with a written list of women he had affairs with Lorraine said John greeted the list himself and showed it to her as a way of taunting being her but John denied this. He said he possibly wrote down a list of women he was interested in but he didn't sleep with them. He claimed he he hadn't slept with anyone else during his marriage 'til arena. Though in fact he had an ongoing paternity suit filed against him. A twenty one year old woman and from Johns hometown of Niagara New York claimed and blood tests later showed that John was the likely father of her ten month. Old Baby.

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"john lorena" Discussed on Parcast Presents: Summer of '69

Parcast Presents: Summer of '69

10:06 min | 10 months ago

"john lorena" Discussed on Parcast Presents: Summer of '69

"In Nineteen Eighty seven twenty year old. John joined the Marine Corps. John said that his military career blunted his ability he to feel empathy saying because Emma Combat Marine. I'm trained not to feel emotions. It's really hard for me to understand a person who has a a lot of feelings. He later claimed that his marital problems with the arena were partly caused by his lack of sensitivity. But this didn't seem to be a problem at the start of their relationship. Llerena was just happy to have his attention. After about ten months of dating twenty two year old John and twenty year old Lorena arena. Were married a justice of the peace. Perform the legal ceremony on June eighteenth nineteen eighty nine. The couple settled into a small all studio apartment and Manassas Virginia out of the Castro's home and no longer burdened by chaperones and restrictions. John and Lorena Grena could finally build an intimate relationship together. As husband and wife. They seemed happy together. But that was quick to change will talk about John and Lorraine `as disastrous marriage coming up now back to the story in nineteen eighty eight twenty one year old Marine Corps Lance Corporal. John Wayne Bobbitt met nineteen year old. Lorena Cayo a young woman. Men who had recently immigrated to the United States from Venezuela they had palpable chemistry and after less than a year of dating they decided added to get married but the marriage turn sour almost immediately. They moved into a small studio apartment but they couldn't afford to furnish furnish it for the first month of their marriage. They slept on the floor from John. Wayne Bobbitt's perspective. This was the start of their problems. Laurino wanted too much too fast. John said that Llerena was angry that he could not provide more for her to her. The American dream meant being successful and having a big house bull arena told a different story. She was concerned by John's behavior very early in their marriage. She has said that the first cracks began to appear just a few weeks after they moved in together during the July Fourth Holiday John John Lorena took a trip up to Niagara Falls to visit John's family according to Llerena. John didn't tell her that his family had planned special wedding reception reception and picnic at their local church. The newlyweds arrived at delete missing the celebration when they got there. Everyone was furious. Areas it will Serena's first introduction to John's family. All she could say was. I'm sorry I didn't know after staying hanging Niagara for three days. John Lorena returned to Manassas. They did not go back alone. John's cousin Todd Bairo accompanied them. John told Lorena that his cousin was going to live with them for a while. LORRAINA was upset. Todd was a stranger to her. She tried to tell John's family that they lived in a tiny studio apartment without any furniture. She felt that they weren't in a position to host guests below arena. said her husband didn't care. Todd was going to move in with them whether she liked it or not. Soon after marina found drug Paraphernalia Korea and their apartment she discovered that todd was a convicted felon and addicted to cocaine and even bigger problem was todd's influence influence on John while he stayed with them. The two men went out drinking nearly every night. She said that about a month into their marriage. She asked to join the men on one of their nights out. According to Lorraina the group tried to go to a club called Chelsea's Washington DC but they were turned away because they're retired didn't fit the dress code. They decided to go to another bar were taught in John drink beer and took several shots. When it was time time to go home they all returned to the car and John got behind the wheel? Lorena recalled that John sped down is sixty six at over over ninety miles per hour. Recklessly weaving across lanes other drivers beep their horns in veered to get out of their way at one point joynt. She was so afraid they were going to crash. She grabbed the steering wheel according to Lorraina. That's when John Punched her. She started to cry as John Screamed obscenities at her todd sitting in the backseat simply nodded in approval at Johns Tirade aid. Lorraina reported that when they got home John dragged her to their apartment and began to kick her slap her and pull her hair a security guard. Officer Francis heard the disturbance in came to the apartment when John opened the door. His demeanor changed completely suddenly. He grew quiet and got his temper. Under control. Officer Francis Saul Llerena crying and asked her. If she had anywhere else she could go. She told him she was leaving but she was too embarrassed to go to a friend's house. She didn't want anybody to know what had happened instead. She drove to the parking lot of the salon where she worked and slept in her car. John in his cousin as in todd remember that night differently. They confirm Lorena Story. The three of them tried to go to a DC nightclub Chelsea's and that they were turned away because because John was wearing sneakers. Batat said let Lorraina became enraged when the bouncer wouldn't let them in. He claimed she punched in scratch. John Across the face. Todd set Llerena continued to attack John when they got home. He did not mention a visit from officer Francis. He said that he left them alone in their apartment and waited in a parking lot for them to calm down then he came back inside and went to bed. After the incident Lorraina Lorraine tried to talk to John to communicate that it was unacceptable to hit her. She said that John kind of apologized which gave her hope that she had had gotten through to him about a month later. The couple took a weekend trip to ocean city Maryland. They brought todd along as well as Laurynas friend and coworker Terry mccumber. The group was walking along on the beach when John Thought he heard a man whistle at the women he grew furious. Lorena Llerena said. John grabbed her by the hair and pulled her to their hotel. Terry mccumber confirmed marinas account of the trip horrified by the way John. John Treated Lorena. She yelled attempt to stop but John ignored her and told the women that they were going home. John went back to the hotel to pack up there things. He ordered the group into the car and they began to. Dr Terry said that on the drive home. She witnessed John hit and punch Llerena while she cowered in the passenger seat Terry again screened at John to stop but he wouldn't listen. He told Terry that if she didn't shut up he'd leave her on the side of the highway. John denied that he hit lorraine during the trip but he admitted that he became angry with her. He said that while he was driving through traffic ethic Lorraina and Terry were sitting together in the back seat looking out the window and flirting with men they saw in the cars passing by them on the highway. She did not not explain why he perceived their behavior to be flirtatious. He recalled feeling angry in ocean city but claimed that he didn't remember any other details of of the trip. After they dropped Terry off and return to their apartment. John continued to beat Llerena until she fled the apartment. She stayed with Terry that night but she returned the next day. Jason be writing a professor of marriage and family therapy at Brigham Young University scientist religious and family pressure as one of the most common reasons that women stay in abusive relationships in two thousand twelve study by associate professor of psychology policy at Brigham. Young University Nuwakot Yamawaki research suggested that social stigma and fear of being judged often deter victims stems from leaving their abusive spouses at that point. Lorena and John. We're still newlyweds. Only married a few months. She did not want to admit her. Our marriage was already a failure. Divorce also went against her Catholic beliefs. So she stayed with John. She was pleased when his cousin as in todd finally moved out of their apartment a few weeks later but John and Laurynas lives did not improve by laurynas account. John lost his temper and beat her at least once a month especially when he was drinking she felt particularly terrified when he started to choke her wrapping his hands around her neck and digging his thumbs into her windpipe. Lorena Co workers reported regularly seeing bruises on her arms neck neck and face around the same time John and Lorena moved into a new house with more space. John said the move was L- arenas idea And Lorena said it was John's both of them have since called the move a mistake since the house cost more than they could afford worries about money he added to their tension then in the spring of Nineteen Ninety twenty one year old Lorraina became.

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"john lorena" Discussed on Parcast Presents: Summer of '69

Parcast Presents: Summer of '69

09:08 min | 10 months ago

"john lorena" Discussed on Parcast Presents: Summer of '69

"Lorena Bobbitt does not have a clear recollection of what happened after she returned to the bedroom room. On the morning of June twenty third nineteen ninety-three later. It became clear what she must have done. But she doesn't have specific memories of going back back to the bedroom and confronting John Before I continue with Llerena psychology. Please note. I am not a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist. But they have done a lot of research for the show. Llerena may have had trouble remembering what happened that morning because the memories are too stressful for her to recall. According into a two thousand fifteen study led by northwestern medicine scientists. Some memories are so traumatic that they cannot be consciously accessed Dr Elena Radu leverage the principal investigator of the study said that when the brain stores traumatic memories it's an entirely different system even at the genetic and molecular level than the one that encodes normal memories this different system of the brain acts as a protective mechanism to prevent a person from re experiencing variances and event that will cause them distress. When Lorena went into the bedroom? John was in a deep sleep lying on his back. He Woke Oh Cup when he felt a jerk to his penis followed by searing pain then he solemn Reena dash out of the room out of the corner of his eye. Marina grabbed her purse from the kitchen counter and fled the apartment. She got into her car and hurriedly drove off she was still holding the knife in one hand hand and her husband's penis in the other at one point she slowed at a stop sign and try to make a turn but she couldn't rotate the wheel because her hands were full. She finally registered what she was holding and it hit her what she had done. She screened and flung the body part out of the cars. Open window back at the apartment. John was lightheaded from blood loss but he managed to get out of bed and apply pressure on his wound. He shook his friend Robert Awake on the couch. And said gotta go gotta go. It took a moment for Robert to understand understand what was happening. He thought John was waking him up to get ready for work and he went to the bathroom to brush his teeth then he noticed all the blood John told him. You'd better take me to the hospital I've been cut. Robert recalled that on the drive over. John said they better be able to make me a new penis when they reached the hospital. John seemed relaxed. He even stopped a chat with a friend he recognized in the ER waiting room. I'm a physician approached John who was holding a bloody sheet over his lap. The ER doctor. Seeing the extent of the blood loss thought that John had cut his rhys and asked to see them John replied. It's not my hand that's cut. John pulled down his sweatpants to show the doctor shocked. The doctor telephone telephoned the on call urologist and told him to come in right away wall. John seemed almost unnaturally calm. During his ordeal. Lorena was in a state of panic. She didn't know where to go so she drove to the salon where she worked there. She threw the knife away in the garbage bin. Outside the store the salon was empty. It was still just around four am Selena. Got Back into the car and drove to the home of her boss. Jan Zuhdi Lorena Llerena frantically pounded on her bosses door until she was allowed in. Janet could hardly understand Lorena. She was crying so hard when Lorraina calm calmed down enough to explain what happened. Janna immediately called the police. By this time. The urologist Dr James Sane had arrived at the hospital to see John. He observed that John's peanuts had been completely amputated at the base. It was a clean cut. He recalled almost surgically precise this ice. In the doctor's opinion the cut had been made with a great deal of force. Doctors also estimated that John had lost about a third of his body's as blood volume once they stabilized him. John Asked if doctors could fix him but because he didn't have the missing appendage the best they could do was closed. Close the wound. Police bring into action hoping to find the penis before it was too late to reattach it. John gave them permission to search the apartment but they came up empty around the same time. Lorraina turned herself into the police station. They had several questions for her. Most of them related to the location then of John's severed member LLERENA. Couldn't think straight. Her heart was racing but she tried to focus on the reason she was here. John had beat her and raped her for years. She had to tell someone she tried to talk about it but the police kept interrupting her. They said they would come back to the abuse but she needed to give them information. I she froze when she realized they were asking her about John's Penis. She she knew she would have to tell the whole story but she didn't know how her mind blinked. When she tried to grasp the details she tried to work her mind backward backward replaying the entire morning in her head until she recalled that moment in the car she remembered holding something in her hand seeing the blood Ed and realizing what she must have done she could hardly bear to relive it but she forced her mouth to form the words? She told them everything. She remembered about her escape from John. Lorena couldn't tell the police exactly where the penis was but she remembered the intersection where she had stopped to throw so it out the window. She gave them as much information as she could recall. Officers rushed to the scene and searched within five minutes. They were successful astle. A police sergeant discovered the penis by some accounts. He actually stepped on it about twelve feet from the road hidden in some tall grass across the street from a seven eleven convenience store they packed in ice from the store the physicians later joked about the fact that the penis was rushed to to them and are Brown paper. hotdog bag surgeons operated for the next nine hours working to repair the arteries and reattached the penis for for some of this time Lorena remained at the police station answering questions. The officers noted that she was highly emotional and cried throughout the questioning. She she told the officer interrogating her that her husband was excited by forced sex and that he had raped her earlier that evening police and brought her to Prince William Hospital Hospital. The same hospital were. John was undergoing surgery so that doctors could conduct a rape kit. It showed that John had recently ejaculated inside inside the Raina after the examination lorraina returned to the police station for more questioning when the officer asked if she had cut her husband. She admitted said that she had when he asked if she knew what she was doing. When she cut him? Marina replied. No I guess not the officers release release Lorraina. After the interrogation. She was allowed to go back home that morning. But within a few days she was charged with malicious wounding which carried a a potential penalty of twenty years in prison. She was arrested and released on a five thousand dollar bond soon after her release she filed for divorce at that point. John was still recovering from his injuries. His prognosis was positive. Doctors believed that his penis would regain full function. The John had other concerns beyond his health as authorities continue to investigate were arenas allegations of rape. John Initially told police that he and Lorena had Not had sex on the morning of the twenty third but after police confronted him with the results of his wife's rape kit indicating that his sperm had been found in Lorena me. I changed a story. He then said he might have had sex with his wife while he was still asleep. And that was why he couldn't remember doing it. Within a few weeks a grand jury indicted twenty six year old John Bobbitt with marital sexual assault like laurynas militias wounding charge. Marital sexual assault also carried a maximum. The penalty of twenty years in prison prosecutors opted not to charge John with the more serious crime of marital rape. which would have carried a potential life sentence because it was harder to prove under the Virginia Standard? At the time in order to prove marital rape prosecutors had to show that the couple was estranged changed at the time of the attack and the victim had to have sustained serious permanent physical damage Lorena and John weren't estranged at the time of the alleged alleged sexual assault. They.

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"john lorena" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

Crimes of Passion

10:49 min | 1 year ago

"john lorena" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

"In the john defined her lorena arena and john occasionally attended church services at bethlehem baptist church one sunday llerena told the pastor there that her husband was hitting her. The pasture spoke to john telling him to stop. He leader recalled that john had no response. She told medical professionals dr inman treated lorena for a respiratory infection. She noted that lorena seemed agitated and nervous. She was either ventilating. Dr ayman asked her whether she was experiencing stress and the rain responded that she was anxious because her husband meet her have sets without her permission. The doctor advice lorraina to call protective services at times. John was also open about his behavior an acquaintance. It's related time. They were hanging out with a group of men talking about women in that conversation confirmed by others john brag that he enjoyed having being forcible sex the friend recalled he said that he liked to make girl squirm and yell and make them bleed and yell for help lorraine azeem desperate for help but the one thing she wasn't willing to do was end her marriage at that point she still believe that divorce would be immoral failing against her catholic faith but by the summer of nineteen ninety-one even the appearance of a marriage between john and marina was rapidly disintegrating according till arena. John started sleeping with other women. She said he often stole money from her purse i to fund his dates. John rarely had money of his own dispend. After his discharge from the marine corps he struggled to find and keep the job. The couple relied almost entirely on the arena's income as a manicurist but she didn't make enough to pay their bills. Their cars were repossessed zest and their house was foreclosed on sometime in the summer of nineteen ninety one in order to keep up with the bills and and get her car back. Lorraina began embezzling money from the neil salon. She wrote up false tickets for the customer. She served overcharging them and kept the difference. She did this for several months when she eventually confesses to john he was furious the agreed she should come clean into her boss. Jonah basuki miss basuki was angry but she had known lorena for several years and she understood her desperate situation relation instead of firing her she dunk chlorine as commissions until all the money she'd stolen was repaid with financial strain and john's infidelity ability a constant source of tension. The couple separated in october of nineteen ninety one after two years of marriage john move back to niagara falls falls to stay with his family. Marina moved back in with a castro's. The couple remained apart for nearly a year but they stayed in touch by telephone both seemed interested and reconciliation despite everything that had happened between them. John was still arenas. I love she admitted committed. I was scared to meet somebody else. A two thousand three study published in the journal of family violence found that leaving an abuser tends to be a process process rather than a discrete event and can take several years on average. A victim leaves air abuser seven times before the separation is permanent terminent in september of nineteen ninety two twenty four year old. John returned virginia. He said he lorraina wanted to try to start over again and work on their marriage. They moved into the maplewood park apartment complex and manassas according to lorraina. The abuse resumed immediately after they were reunited. Llerena said that by the start of nineteen ninety three john beat her at least twice a week by may llerena finally seemed to recognize that their relationship was beyond repair around this time. John told her that his friend robert was moving into their one bedroom apartment and after the experience with todd lorena was weary about having more men's danner home but john didn't give of her choice at this point. Lorena thought about getting a divorce when she brought it up to john. He told her she could leave but reminded her that he knew where she worked. He would always be able to find her even if their marriage was over according to lorena john told her that divorce divorced people usually stay friends and continue to have sex given his past behavior arena took this as a threat he would continue to to rape her even if they split up as the abuse continued. Lorraina had the idea to hide a tape recorder in her purse. She thought a tape tape. John be reading her might be helpful in divorce proceedings ba- john discovered the tape while trying to take money from her purse and he flew into a rage. The bobbitt's downstairs neighbors later said they heard a loud argument with someone banging in running around. She heard lorena screaming at john to give back her purse. First lorena said the john grab the tape and flushed down the toilet then. She said john raped her. Lorraina tried to fight him off. She scratched his face leaving a gouge in his cheek but he overpowered her. Lorraina reached a point where she didn't want to salvage things her life with. John was a nightmare and she just wanted it to be over over the next few weeks six. She moved things out of the apartment. She told neighbors she was donating clothes and furniture if they wanted to come by and take what they liked. It seemed that she was finally leap preparing to walk out of her marriage. On saturday june nineteenth nineteen ninety-three marina ran into a neighbor diane hall. She told diane that she was moving out and looking for new place to live the next day. John's friend robert johnston arrived to stay with the bobbitt's robert noted that lorena was moving boxes out of the apartment. He said the couple seemed strained and that they were ignoring each other on monday june twenty-first lorraine and and went to the prince william county courthouse. She filled out paperwork to obtain a protective order against her husband. She was worried about what john had said that he would tracker record down even if they split up at the courthouse clerk helped her fill out the paperwork then let her know it would take some time to type up and enter the order into the computer system. Lorraina told him that she couldn't stay but that she might return on wednesday to complete the process she may we have decided to wait because she had not yet found her own apartment and was still living with john. Lorena might have realized that if she filed the protective order that day they would have had to separate immediately before she was ready to move out the next morning. John robert were gone when lorraine awoke up john john had gotten a job unloading trucks at food warehouse and secured robert temporary work there as well lorraina went to work at the nail salon as usual when when she came home the men were still out john was supposed to work a second job that evening as a host a nightclub but he was told it was a slow night and he wasn't needed. He and robert decided to go out for drinks instead lorraina. Meanwhile had a quiet night at home. She visited with her downstairs. Neighbor ella jones and talked about her marriage. Miss jones had overheard several incidents of violence and she was worried about lorena. When arena opened up about the abuse miss jones told her that she could come spend the night at her place but she was an elderly woman with several health problems and arena did not want to make more trouble for her. She thinks miss jones for the offer then she went back to her apartment and went to bed after drinking taking several beers. John robert left the bar around one thirty a. m. They had a meal at a denny's restaurant then returned to the maplewood park apartment around on three a._m. In the early hours of wednesday june twenty third llerena said that she woke up to find her husband on top top of her he had ripped off the shorts and underwear she was wearing and forced himself onto her. She said she tried to cry out but he shoved his tongue so far down her throat. She thought she was going to vomit. She kept shaking her head no but he ignored her and raped her afterward the word. He pushed her away arena said she cried and asked him why he did this to her. He told her to leave him alone and let him sleep sleep. Lorena pulled on her clothes and got out of bed. Her head roiled as unwanted images flashed through her brain. She couldn't and stop the barrage of memories. The first time john hit her kicked her choked her and all the times after hundreds druids of instances seared into her mind. She tried to calm herself down to stop her body from shaking to stop the pictures from flooding through her brain but it was impossible. She was so tired and angry. She had reached her limit. She.

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"john lorena" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

Crimes of Passion

07:53 min | 1 year ago

"john lorena" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

"In nineteen eighty seven twenty year old. John joined the marine corps. John said that his military career blunted his ability to feel empathy saying because emma combat marine. I'm trained trained not to feel emotions. It's really hard for me to understand a person who has a lot of feelings. He later claimed that his marital problems with llerena were partly caused by his lack of sensitivity but this didn't seem to be a problem at the start of their relationship. Llerena was just happy to have his attention. Then after about ten months of dating twenty two year old john and twenty year old lorena were married a justice of the peace performed the legal legal ceremony on june eighteenth nineteen eighty nine the couple settled into a small studio apartment in manassas virginia out of the castro's home home and no longer burdened by chaperones and restrictions. John and lorena could finally build an intimate relationship together as husband bend and wife. 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Crime never takes a day off and now neither does podcast follow today and true crime for free on spotify and anywhere you listen to podcasts now back to the the story in nineteen eighty eight twenty one year old marine corps lance corporal john wayne bobbitt man nineteen year old lorena cayo a young woman who recently immigrated to the united states from venezuela they had palpable chemistry and after less than a year of dating. They decided to get married but the marriage turned sour almost immediately they moved into a small studio apartment but they couldn't afford to furnish it for the first month of their marriage. They slept on the floor from john wayne bobbitt perspective. This was the start sort of their problems. Laurino wanted too much too fast johnson. That llerena was angry that he could not provide more for her to her. The american dream meant being successful and having a big house bull arena told a different story. She was concerned by john's behavior savior very early in their marriage. She has said that the first cracks began to appear just a few weeks after they moved in together during the july a fourth holiday john lorena took a trip up to niagara falls to visit john's family according to llerena. John didn't tell her that his family had planned planned a special wedding reception and picnic at their local church. The newlyweds arrived at delete missing the celebration when they got there everyone everyone was furious. It was the arena's first introduction to john's family all she could say was i'm sorry i didn't know and after staying in niagara for three days. John and lorena returned to manassas. They did not go back alone. John's cousin todd bairo accompanied them. John told lorena that his cousin was going to live with them for a while. Lorraine was upset. Todd was a stranger to her. She tried to tell john's family that they lived in a tiny studio apartment without any furniture. She felt that they weren't in a position to host guests below. Rina said her husband didn't care todd was going to move in with them whether she liked it or not. Soon after marina ena found drug paraphernalia in their apartment she then discovered that todd was a convicted felon and addicted to cocaine and even bigger occur problem was todd's influence on john while he stayed with them. The two men went out drinking nearly every night. She said that about a month into their or marriage. She asked to join the men on one of their nights out according to lorena the group tried to go to a club called chelsea's in washington d._c. But they were turned away because they're tired. Didn't that the dress code. They decided to go to another bar. We're taught in john drink beer and took several shots. What's when it was time to go home. They all return to the car and john got behind the wheel. Lorena recalled that john sped down. <music> is sixty six at over ninety miles per hour recklessly weaving across lanes other drivers beep their horns in veered to get out of their way. Hey at one point. She was so afraid they were going to crash. She grabbed the steering wheel. According to lorraina that's when john on punched her. She started to cry as john screamed obscenities at her todd sitting in the backseat. Simply nodded in approval full at johns tirade. Lorraina reported that when they got home john dragged her to their apartment and began to kick her slap her and pull our hair. A security guard officer francis heard the disturbance in came to the apartment. When john opened the door his demeanor changed changed completely secondly he grew quiet and got his temper under control.

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"john lorena" Discussed on 1150 AM KKNW

1150 AM KKNW

16:03 min | 1 year ago

"john lorena" Discussed on 1150 AM KKNW

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"john lorena" Discussed on KSFO-AM

KSFO-AM

01:47 min | 1 year ago

"john lorena" Discussed on KSFO-AM

"Honoring that day talks resume. I'm Elliot Francis. President Trump is joining other world leaders and know any France this morning to Mark the seventy fifth anniversary of the allied invasion of Europe and to honor the few surviving veterans of that battle that changed the course of World War Two Jim Roope in. Normandy relive that day with some of those heroes day. Most know what that means. There are still a few who know because they were there. I saw a high price of freedom. Joyce jobs unit was attached to the first brigade. Combat engineers, the first wave to hit the beach that morning took ninety percent. Casualties the second eighty percent. A new wave every thirty minutes it took four hours to take out the German resistance in all that day. The price of freedom, forty four hundred American lives. We know what those words mean we saw here at the American cemetery. Nearly ninety four hundred US soldiers are buried or honored Scott to Jordan's is the superintendents engraved on every one of those headstones s the cost of liberty. It's costly cherry costly, Jim Roope. Normandy France rescue effort resumes. This morning for four climbers have been stranded on the north side of. Mount rainier in Washington state since Monday who said to be planning possible rescues by air and on the ground as conditions allow we'll talks resume today after US and Mexican negotiators failed to reach an agreement Wednesday to head off. President Trump's threaten trade tariffs with a Monday deadline. John Lawrence reports, publican, Senator, Ted Cruz, comparing the situation between the US and Mexico to a game of chicken two trucks on a country road headed straight at each other one or the other is going to blink. If an agreement on border security isn't reached by Monday, the US will enforce a tariff on goods from its southern neighbour. Democratic Senator Jeff Merkley of Oregon. This is not about tariffs for an economic deal. This is same on use it as a weapon in foreign policy. I'm John Lorena West Virginia official who once called Michelle Obama and Eben.

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"john lorena" Discussed on The Thread with OZY

The Thread with OZY

03:54 min | 1 year ago

"john lorena" Discussed on The Thread with OZY

"He was selfish. She said, so I pulled back the sheets, and then I did it. Greg Murphy, again, they interviewed her again the next day to make sure the. Stood. This is the detective as to the reason she gave and she repeated because he have orgasm and not wait for me. That's obviously not what she testified to prosecutors argued that letting Lorraine off the hook for her action because she was upset or angry would sit at dangerous precedent angry. She retaliated against. But you know, we don't live in ninety that governed by revenge. We don't live in a society in which whoever has the biggest knife. The defense could not argue that lorraina had not done the deed. But they could argue she lacked criminal intent lorraina defense team put on a defense called irresistible impulse. It's a kind of temporary insanity defense. So basically, the idea is that in that moment lorraina was so kind of traumatized by all of the past assaults and alleged abuse that she had suffered at the hands of her husband that she snapped. Marinas lawyers argued that her four year marriage to John was a reign of terror. Show that in her mind. It was his pants from which shape could not escape. A number of witnesses corroborated Lorraine stories of marital abuse, including that momentous night in June their next door. Neighbor, testified to what he called sounds of painful sex coming from the Bob it's department the night of the incident. The most compelling testimony came from the lorraina herself lorraina was very emotional on the stand. She cried she, you know, went into detail about the horrific things that she claimed to have suffered throughout her marriage to John. Thrown into the wall. The site side karate kick. So it was really scare. I was really frayed John Lorena acclaimed. Also, violent on the night in question. I said I don't want to say. Listen to me, let me let me go. Ben John fell asleep in the rain of went into the kitch-. She testified about what went through her mind when she saw the knife. I remember. Them for rape me to so many pictures away head. Remember thin? So. What see? Remember everything? You know, I think she really won a lot of public over are. You know, the fact that the that the trial was televised really helped at least a large part of the population sympathize with her the clerk at the courthouse told me that after Lorraine testified the male just poured in for her in the rain also became a symbol for a movement larger than herself, frankly that was twenty years ago. There wasn't a lot of attention on on domestic violence. Kim Gandy is president and CEO of the national network in domestic violence. There's no question that there was a tremendous opportunity created by the trial, basically taking advantage of the media circus to try to draw attention to something that was a tremendous damaging problem to countless women all over the country. But being the object of widespread public sympathy was not enough for Lorena to avoid a guilty verdict..

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"john lorena" Discussed on 20/20

20/20

04:55 min | 1 year ago

"john lorena" Discussed on 20/20

"He was driving and the highway his start driving and driving very fast, very fast. And I was scared. And I said I'm scared. Please drive. I in I hold us too. Well, so I can go stray and he punch me. Yes, really hard. I was crying. I was very shocked. Somebody hit me like that. Especially from my husband. Somebody that I marry him. And I loved him. Astonished by that because that was something that was she was unfamiliar with in the relationship leading up to the marriage. She'd never seen that side of John. There was a big jealousy factor that set in. She knew John was good looking women might come onto. She got upset with anybody. Talk to me, girl, girl girls direction. Get. She she punched you how often did she hit you? To get mad two sisters, very jealous person, very possessive want anybody around me. Always afraid someone's dignity me away for. Prize them. No this man, this memory, and this is my ticket. He said to me every time that he was mad at me. He said once a marine soul was a marine. I remember. One time I was in lane into floor his actually chocking meat. Panos crying and. I was. Couldn't breed. Llerena has said that you were physically abusive to her. Turn things around like say, he's physically abusive to me. She never went to the hospital ever had anything seriously wrong with y'all let turmoil. It wasn't like we're out to kill each other. You never fought back try to to do or straighter. Not the inter- the pushing shoving upon cheer punch there. And then she said it carried over into the bedroom. That he seemed to be very stimulated excited by violence sex. I mean to sex. Hey, told me that. He was that kind of sexual sex for sex excited him and. Which is cry. Like, so many of the accusations fly back and forth between John Lorena? This. One is hard to reconcile John is he was ever excited by violence sex. One not that left him early on. When you saw this terrible situation. You were in I feel like I don't wanna fell into the marriage. I'm Catholic, and I don't believe in divorce. I will like to work it out. What came between was even more poison toxic in a relationship that was already all bar. Bar. Talks about her marriage with John the nightmare from beginning to end. It's actually very hard to imagine how they laughed at for years together heard me in my lip was bleeding and bruises. John maintains that he never hit her. But he admits that he might have kind of pushed her a little or that when he was restraining her. He might have been rug. Hit me. You're gonna end up getting some type of injury like a bruise or battling. What's your definition of spousal abuse? Could be put your home. All verbal abuse calling. Somebody is lot or or tramp. Did you do any of those things? In moments of anger as you push. Your shovel. We fought. But that's not spousal abuse. This fighting each other, you know. You said you were abnormally strong. Of course, I wouldn't here because I heard of villa bed. I try to strain marks when you were stranger. Of course. I mean, I mean have Martin me, but I fly them..

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