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F9 to be released online due to coronavirus
"With this is John horn of course host of the frame on KPCC honorary vice president of the one eight movie club John the best night isn't the only movie that was scheduled for release is now is having a perhaps a very different release than was imagined by filmmakers what is going on with movies how are they making the decision whether to delay a release or to go ahead in unconventional means I think the easiest answer is it depends I mean I think a lot of studios have taken their big budget movies and move them out of the summer season so right now in theory you have been watching F. nine the latest fast and furious movie was supposed to open may twenty second it's now coming out in April of twenty twenty one Black Widow a Marvel movie was going to open may first it's now November seventh so the bigger movies mostly are postponing their releases there are some films where they are taking them straight to video on demand or streaming platforms it's what universal did with its trolls war world tour movie and what it's doing in a couple of weeks with Judd Apatow's film I king of Staten Island and then there's some movies like Hamilton which Disney was supposed to release next year theatrically that they're gonna put on their streaming service Disney plus pretty soon most of the big movies though are gonna wait because there's only a handful of theaters that are open now if you can't play a movie in every theater around the country that it doesn't make any sense that said Christopher Nolan's film tenant is supposed to come out July seventeenth in theaters and the live action version of Mulan is supposed to come out July twenty fourth still feels iffy to me but that's the plan that Warner brothers and Disney have for those two films and right now they're sticking to it so one of those movies that is gonna be streaming is vast of night as I'm in and it's playing at drive ins but it's gonna be streaming on demand on Amazon prime on Friday and joining us is the director Andrew Patterson from his home in Oklahoma high and you're welcome to wanting Hey good to be on the show I wonder how it feels for you to be releasing a movie at this moment in time unexpected you know we'd made the movie a few years back and felt like it was you know we didn't even know if for when we were gonna get a distribution deal and then it lands right in the middle of the pandemic we were scheduled for may fifteenth and so we have it a little bit and and actually went out nationwide in drive ins first and and people came out and had good experiences from what we can tell I mean I got to say the movie is uniquely suited for a drive and did you go watch it from your car yeah we did we what's that in the at Montclair mission tiki opening night and day you know unique experience at least to get to see a movie that has a lot of outdoor scenes and and in the sky plays a big part of the movie and and you have had lights flashing through parking lots in the movie and it kind of felt three dimensional away because of those extra elements sort of surrounding you at the drive in I'm gonna be super careful because I do not want to be the person explains this for anyone else but can you what can you tell us about this movie without spoiling anything yeah I mean when you work on a movie and and and marketed and publicize it you learn ways around maybe hoping not to tip the hat too much but yeah you know it's it's set in New Mexico in the nineteen fifties and and just those two elements a lone people sort of draw a line between them and and make some conclusions immediately in our film follow the switchboard operator who sixteen female name Faye and a radio DJ named Everitt who's eighteen nineteen twenty and they sort of start to hear some things through the radio and the switchboard that sound like they're not of at least local in in origin and then they decide to a curious and start to chase it down John this film is getting a lot of attention I wonder why would you say that is an again John no spoilers but what why are people so excited about this movie well it's really good I think that's the obvious reason it is a tremendously impressive first feature it is so well made so well acted really it's just a perfect little movie but I think one of the things that's odd about a film like this and it's feels a little kind of heartless to say it it actually is benefiting from the crown of virus because none of those big movies are coming out nobody is going to see the light latest Marvel movie or a lot latest fast and furious film so movies like this that are coming out on different platforms like streaming they're not having their release date how old have a real opportunity because there's not a lot of new content that people can find and here you have a film that would be maybe it would really face some challenges if it were real released theatrically as originally planned in mid may because it's going up against all of these giant movies and now it has kind of a little silo of no competition because there's nothing really playing in theaters and there's nothing that new or big or great that's debuting on streaming platforms so I think it's the in some odd way it's almost the perfect combination of a really good movie coming out when they're not a lot of really good movies
F9 to be released online due to pandemic
"With this is John horn of course host of the frame on KPCC honorary vice president of the one eight movie club John the best night isn't the only movie that was scheduled for release is now is having a perhaps a very different release than was imagined by filmmakers what is going on with movies how are they making the decision whether to delay a release or to go ahead in unconventional means I think the easiest answer is it depends I mean I think a lot of studios have taken their big budget movies and move them out of the summer season so right now in theory you were been watching F. nine the latest fast and furious movie was supposed to open may twenty second it's now coming out in April of twenty twenty one Black Widow a Marvel movie was going to open may first it's now November seventh so the bigger movies mostly are postponing their releases there are some films where they are taking them straight to video on demand or streaming platforms it's what universal did with its trolls war world tour movie and what it's doing in a couple of weeks with Judd Apatow's film I king of Staten Island and then there's some movies like Hamilton which Disney was supposed to release next year theatrically that they're gonna put on their streaming service Disney plus pretty soon most of the big movies though are gonna wait because there's only a handful of feeders that are open now if you can't play a movie in every theater around the country that doesn't make any sense that said Christopher Nolan's film tenant is supposed to come out July seventeenth in theaters and the live action version of Mulan is supposed to come out July twenty fourth still feels iffy to me but that's the plan that Warner brothers and Disney have for those two films and right now they're sticking to it so one of those movies that is going to be streaming is vast of nine as I mentioned it's playing at drive ins but it's gonna be streaming on demand on Amazon prime on Friday and joining us is the director Andrew Patterson from his home in Oklahoma hi Andrew welcome to winning Hey good to be on the show I wonder how it feels for you to be releasing a movie at this moment in time unexpected you know we'd made the movie a few years back and felt like it was you know we didn't even know if for when we were gonna get a distribution deal and then it lands right in the middle of the pandemic we were scheduled for may fifteenth and so we have it a little bit and and actually went out nationwide and drive ins first and and people came out and had good experiences from what we can tell I mean I got to say the movie is uniquely suited for a drive and did you go watch it from your car yeah we did we what's that in the Montclair mission tiki opening night and do you know if you need to experience at least to get to see a movie that has a lot of outdoor scenes and and in the sky plays a big part of the movie and and you have headlights flashing through parking lots in the movie and it kind of felt three dimensional away because of those extra elements sort of surrounding you at the drive in I'm gonna be super careful because I do not want to be the person explains this for anyone else but can you what can you tell us about this movie without spoiling anything yeah I mean when you work on a movie and and and marketed and publicize it you you learn ways around maybe hoping not to tip the hat too much but yeah you know it's it's set in New Mexico in the nineteen fifties and and just those two elements alone people sort of draw a line between them and and make some conclusions immediately in our film follow the switchboard operator who sixteen female name Faye and a radio DJ named Everitt who's eighteen nineteen twenty and they sort of start to hear some things through the radio and the switchboard that sound like they're not of at least local in in origin and then they decide to a curious and start to chase it down John this film is getting a lot of attention I wonder why would you say that is an again John no spoilers but what why are people so excited about this movie well it's really good I think that's the obvious reason it is a tremendously impressive first feature it is so well made so well acted really it's just a perfect little movie but I think one of the things that are about a film like this and it's feels a little kind of heart was to say it it actually is benefiting from the crown of iris because none of those big movies are coming out nobody is going to see the light latest Marvel movie or a lot latest fast and furious film so movies like this that are coming out on different platforms like streaming they're not having their release date how old have a real opportunity because there's not a lot of new content that people can find and here you have a film that would be maybe it will really face some challenges if it were real released theatrically as originally planned in mid may because it's going up against all of these giant movies and now it has kind of a little silo of no competition because there's nothing really plain in theaters and there's nothing that new or big or great that's debuting on streaming platforms so I think it's the in some odd way it's almost the perfect combination of a really good movie coming out when they're not a lot of really good movies
Movie Theaters Are Still (Mostly) Open, But That Won’t Last
"It's been a devastating week for the entertainment industry as Kovic Nineteen forces to cancellation of public gatherings. All over the world. Movie theaters are struggling to cope with two major factors declining attendance and delayed film releases from Motion Picture Studios theaters around the globe have closed but major change like AMC and cinemark have not yet decided to close up shop here in the US. Here's John Horns discussion with senior film writer at Variety Matt. Donnelly one that we've been reporting on depicted but theaters will close regionally not a blanket. You know all the movie theaters in the country represented by trade group called NATO But we imagined that they'll they'll try to close out in pockets of the slow wave to get as much you know revenue as they can. Nato is the National Association of Theatre Owners and just a couple of days ago. They cancelled their annual convention which was scheduled for the end of the month in Las Vegas. The other factor is that a lot of major releases are being pulled from the calendar. Disney has pulled. Moulin the new James Bond Movies. Nocco come out the next fast and furious sequel. Fast Nine has moved to next year. There are a number of other movies that have been placed on hold. What kind of problems does that create for those theaters that remain open because it seems like a lot of the tentpole movies aren't going to get released? Yes the great question. I mean it doesn't incentivize an audience to brave public faces when you don't have really premium and exciting new films to show them and also let's talk about just the agrees Spending on marketing studios have already completed to promote rely on and stuff nine. They're looking at hundreds and millions of and across the board for movies that aren't going to hit theaters for another year or so. If movie theaters are considered dangerous or if they're actually closed might companies like Disney and. Maybe it's not move on. Maybe it's another movie down the line just get released on Disney plus or an equivalent streaming service. Do you think that is part of the potential conversation going forward I can tell you confidently that over the past month or so of all been you know? They won't dare speak out loud The strategy of going directly to digital. But don't forget that a lot of companies are publicly traded so they have an onus to create value for general that. They can't get their movie theaters. They might be obliged to release them through streaming for higher price point or just to incentivize customers to stay but yeah. I think absolutely this is the reason to To look at sort of Shattering will be called the traditional theatrical window. Which is where movie theaters get ninety days or exclusivity with all the movies that come out and then they moved down two places like streaming and on demand. I think he could absolutely see some of the mid range films. You take something like marbled new mutants which is Sort of young adults giving property. I don't think that anyone to expand that to blow minds in the movie theater. They could easily put that directly on Hulu wish neons and and see up taking subscribers just before we got on the phone. I looked at the stock of cinema world which runs Regal United Artists and Edwards Theatres. Its stock is down. Almost eighty percent in the last month compared to the overall market dropping about twenty-five percent cinemark another major chain has seen its stock dropped almost sixty percent and at the same time. Netflix is down just seventeen percent which is better than the overall market so it feels like Wall Street sentiment on the at least short term potential for exhibition is really grim and at the same time. A lot of movies in production are shutting down as well and that won't be felt for months if not a year down the line. Is that going to be a factor as well not just for exhibition but for streaming services? Yeah I mean we. We've been having conversations about e even take the last round of of film festivals that went up. Jones going distribution all the time to to places like Toronto telluride Sundance. I think the OC a spike in sales of those finished movies But they can put up on services today but in terms of original production places like netflix. Amazon impact will be dramatic. Episodes opened a brand new six down stage facility in New Mexico where they intended to shoot the stranger things that will be delayed. You're talking about like theory of Marquis Properties in the stream or so. I think there will be a bit of a shock to either licensed beloved prize old content to put on or a scramble to fine finish work. They can put up in the near term. It does feel like some smaller exhibition chains are trying to come up with creative solutions. Alamo Draft House said that it in its San Francisco Theatre. It's doing something where no more than two hundred people can be in the theater and it's GonNa ask people to kind of separate themselves from one another. It feels like an interesting idea. I don't know how sustainable it is. Are you hearing other things like that where people can buy seats and maybe block off the seats around them or is it just whatever you find when you get into the auditorium? I think you'll find a lot of people finding creative solutions to enjoy the game. But I think at the end of the day there's so much option And there's just such a volume of content. You can watch at home so I think it's just more about separating the the brave from those would rather stop by Saly and you and I cover the movie business. I haven't been in a theatre at least a week and a half. How are people who cover movies? Seen movies are a lot of people now watching films on their laptops as opposed to going to screenings or theaters absolutely You know I went to a screening of a short film that one of the talent agency last week and of Savonarola Laura dern who just gave everybody an elbow bump to say hello and handshake so I think people are increasingly quite. Get us about Coming together so they do a lot more digital screeners for for industry professionals. Another interesting note As of last night The South by Southwest Film Festival organized. A last minute of sort of virtual festival with an online screening library to try to give some of those Indians. That didn't get to play a chance to get in front of accredited president. Chris I think is really cool and also what kind of solution that keeps everybody
Biden and Sanders brace for one-on-one battle in new phase of Democratic race
"To the fray mom. John Horn the race to be the Democratic nominee for president is basically down to two candidates now Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders after Elizabeth. Warren dropped out today. Warren and former candidate Pete. Buddha judge attracted a good amount of support from Hollywood. So where do all those donors and their money go now? Ted Johnson has been covering all this for deadline dot com as its Washington. Dc correspondent Ted. Welcome back to the show. Thanks for having me so. A lot has changed in the candidate landscape since we last talked Pete. Buddha judge had the support of big names like Lee Daniels and Seth McFarland since dropping out Buddha judge endorsed Biden have some of his supporters followed. Yes some of the fundraisers have committed to Joe Biden's campaign actually did fairly quickly after people to judge endorsed Biden. And I'm talking about names that are really household. Names former executive and NBC universal a fundraising consultant. People like Lee Daniels in Seth Macfarlane. They actually hosted a fundraiser for people to judge they haven't said where they're GONNA go. Seth Macfarlane is. I actually tweeted out. The fact that in the last cycle he endorsed Bernie Sanders. So perhaps he's weighing that decision whether to go for by her whether a Gopher Sanders so I think people are still still may be a little bit on the fence even though there has been this definite movement toward Joe Biden's campaign. Let's talk more about that. There was a big fundraiser. Last night hosted by former paramount pictures head Sherry Lansing and I think a lot of the momentum hinges on his performance on Super Tuesday. You wrote in deadline that I think at one point eighty people were expected. It turned out to be a whole lot more than that. What happened. Well Yeah Actually. I talked to Sherry Lansing on Monday. And since then she continued to get phone calls for people interested in coming to the event and they finally had to cut it off. I think at about three hundred and fifty people. They just couldn't accommodate anymore to a certain extent. This isn't that surprising because Joe Biden occupies that moderate lane in. There aren't a lot of other options left so if you are not in favor of sanders you're probably naturally going to be looking at Joe Biden if you want to be engaged to this political cycle we're shaping up to have a Biden Bernie battle in Hollywood and we'll see how this plays out. It could be ended up being as as contentious and even nasty as it was back in two thousand and eight when you saw this huge division in Hollywood between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton if there were any lessons learned about that polarization that fight between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. How did the town eventually choose where? There's some conflicted feelings about working with people who might have supported another candidate. Yeah for some people. I think it took them a while. I'm Savan is actually a big name. He's a longtime donor to the Democratic Party. Big Media executive known often for mighty morphin power rangers but he was a figure that was very much behind Hillary Clinton. He appeared on the today show and it took a while to actually get behind Barack Obama. I think it took him until the fall to support Obama's candidacy so it could be even more difficult when you are considering a choice between Biden and Bernie because the division isn't so much behind these two different personalities as it is ideological this race has been set up as a race between the moderates and the left or the far left. And you didn't see that back in two thousand eight. We're talking with Ted Johnson at deadline dot com about Hollywood's take on the two remaining Democratic candidates Elizabeth. Warren has officially dropped out of the race. But she's not endorsing anybody yet. She has a lot of Hollywood support. People that Krissy teagan and buried Jenkins is there any indication yet of where her supporters might go again? I think that this is where people could definitely be on the fence. Between Biden and between Bernie Sanders. I was added warrant event in South Carolina last week with John Legend. And he was. I thought an extraordinarily effective spokesperson for her campaign. He hasn't said Who He's going to endorse yet but he actually would be Think a valuable endorsement for either campaign and he seemed to really kind of reflect. This idea that weren't tried to advance that. There was kind of middle ground between what Biden represented and what sanders represented and she She just had a news conference. Apparently I was wrong about that. That there really wasn't that that lane in this Democratic primary so we'll see what someone like John Legend how he comes out in supporting either. By Sander's there are some very big Hollywood players who have yet to say where their money is going to go to be no which way they're leaning. And how influential are they in? Where other money might go after they pick a candidate? Yes people like Sabban people like Steven Spielberg and Jeffrey Katzenberg. Heaven publicly said who they're backing. I would be awfully surprised if they went for Bernie Sanders Just because people like for example Jeffrey Katzenberg. He has contributed to multiple candidates in this race except for Sanders. So I I think that might be an indication right there. Some of these figures wanted to kind of sit out the primary process but their support can be influential. It has the bandwagon effect. It probably would have been more influential earlier in the primary because it kind of would have rallied the troops behind one of these more moderate candidates but it will matter to a fair degree especially in fundraising. Especially if someone like a Katzenberg or someone like a High Sabban not only host fundraisers but also get involved in some of the Super Pacs for these campaigns where they can raise a much greater sums of money in the millions as opposed to twenty eight hundred. There might be some people in the country who would say to themselves. Well if George Clooney supports this candidate. I'm going to support that candidate. Is that really the factor though the celebrity endorsement or is it more about the money and what the check writing ability can mean for these candidates. Well I think that it depends on what time in the process. There's not a whole lot of evidence that voters look to celebrities for who they are going to vote for. But what they can do is kind of help. Elevate a candidate in terms of attention. And that's extremely important during the primary process. Probably less important when we get into the general election when it's just two candidates facing other and that's where fundraising tends to become a bigger issue especially as we get closer and closer to
SXSW Will Go On Despite Coronavirus Concerns
"Welcome to the frame. I'm John Horn every year. A few hundred thousand people gathered in Austin Texas for south by southwest. It's an international festival of music film and Technology but with the threat of the corona virus at hand. Some people are saying that bringing massive crowds into one place could be a very bad idea. Facebook twitter Amazon and a few other tech and media companies. Already have dropped out of the festival which starts on March thirteenth. South by southwest organizers. Say they're nevertheless moving ahead. Dan Sullivan is a writer for Texas monthly and he joins us from Austin Dan. Welcome to the show for having me so before we get into the impact of the corona virus. Let's talk a little bit about just. How big south by South West is in terms of its physical presence in Austin? How much are people's lives affected when the festival comes to town? Well it's huge. It takes over a giant chunk of the city several miles especially the downtown area but also beyond that it does have a huge impact. Let's talk about some health. Concerns from people who live in Austin and online petition calling for a total cancellation of south by southwest. West has more than forty thousand signatures. I've been to south by southwest. It's been a number of years but like any popular gathering. There are a lot of people in a lot of lines it can be getting into a movie can be getting into a club getting into a restaurant. You are very much cheek to jowl with a lot of your fellow festival guests and I guess that's something that a lot of people might be concerned about. It's not just that you're inside venue with a lot of people. But they're massive crowds basically wherever you go on all the streets and a lot of public spaces. Yeah that is a very real part of the concern is that it's just going to put a lot of people in close quarters. The festival did talk today about potentially encouraging people to be further physically apart from each other whether that means capping the capacity at venues or starting a standing in line protocol. I don't know specifically but it's something that seemed to be aware of the head of twitter. Jack Dorsey was scheduled to speak but he's since cancelled. Because of the company's concerns about the corona virus in fact twitter said in a statement that it was cancelling all quote non critical business travel and events unquote. Who else has bowed out so far. We've seen twitter facebook Amazon Amazon Entertainment Amazon studios when out today. Tick Tock went out today. A measurable which usually has a pretty sizeable south by South West presence. Cancel yesterday. There's probably more to. We're talking with Texas monthly writer. Dan Solomon about south by southwest and concerns over the corona virus. I WanNa talk a little bit about the economic impact of south by southwest. Obviously there are a lot of hotels and restaurants that benefit but it seems from your own reporting. There are a lot of smaller businesses. That really rely on south by Southwest Festival didn't happen they'd be in a big amount of trouble. Yeah that's absolutely true. One thing that it's kind of hard to break apart is south by southwest rise with the rise of Austin Austin city of that is rapidly growing population and that growth has coincided with the rise of south by southwest. And so you've seen a lot of people and a lot of businesses that factor south by South West heavily into their business models. So you've got caterers. Who opened up operations because they knew that every march they could pay a third of their monthly bills. Off of one week I talked to all sorts of people who have jobs that you wouldn't think of as a south by southwest thing carpenters and pedicab drivers and people who rent Porta potties. And all of those people really do count on South by southwest as a huge part of their annual income. I think it's also important to note that south by southwest can be an important launching point for musical acts and for movies right now. I think there's about one hundred world premiere films including new movies from Judd Appetito. There's a documentary. About the Beastie Boys New King Arthur movie with Patel. I'm wondering in terms of its impact in the conversation about art and artists. How important would you say south by southwest has become? It's huge. I mean especially. The film festival has been growing every year and people like John. Appetite Tau like if he can't premier his movie at South by southwest any other film festival in the world would be happy to have him but there are a lot of people who get a benefit from small filmmakers independent filmmakers short filmmakers who get a benefit from premiering their phone at the same festival judd appetite out of festival with the prestige of south by southwest. And that would be. It'd be really difficult for people who are counting on that premiere to make connections to launch their careers to lose it as far as musicians. Go The festival itself doesn't pay very well but there are all of these events. Historically that happened around the festival often paid for by companies like Amazon and facebook and twitter. Who Get pretty good paychecks? And you'll see bands who wrote their entire tours around going south by South West so they can play. Fourteen shows in Austin that week including official showcase and without that economy happening it really does have a huge disruptive effect on a lot of Art Creativity. That's at the core of the festival the organizers of MIB TV which was set for later this month in France just cancelled that annual television convention. I'm wondering if you have any idea of what the organizers of south by southwest are trying to wrestle with now what is the balance they're trying to strike? I mean. I think that they do have a real concern. Certainly the city of Austin has a real concern if it makes more sense to have everything under the control of south by southwest which can at least institute hand washing protocols and recommended safe distances and have some authority over the people who who come to town for the festival versus just having sort of a chaos festival because all of those bands who booked their tors to Austin. Most of them are hand to Mouth. Starts Musicians. Who CAN'T AFFORD TO CANCEL? Literally they already took time off of work. They're going to be coming anyway. You know people who aren't traveling on badges people who are just coming to south by South West to have a good time a lot of them are still gonna come so I think that a big part of the concern right now is. Is it more useful for south by South West to continue to have control over what happens in Austin or is it more useful to just say everybody stay home? This isn't a safe place to be. And I think that they're legitimately struggling with that. And I'm sure there are also struggling with some very real financial considerations it will be hard to me bound from cancelling something that they've worked on all year. I think that there's a real resistance to that. Just because this is all they do south by southwest project of another organization. They put on this festival for ten days in March and having to cancel it just days before it's supposed to begin. It's supposed to start a week from Friday. I think that's something that they're just resistant to do. Because they've been working on it for a year then Solomon is a writer for Texas monthly. He joined us from Austin Dan. Thanks so much for coming on the
Julia Louis-Dreyfus Takes The Lift For 'Downhill'
"To the fray mom John Horn for Valentine's Day weekend. Here's an idea a new movie. That might leave you contemplating the meaning of marriage. The film is called Downhill. And it's dramatic and dark comedy adapted from the Swedish movie for Moore. The Film Stars Julia Louis Dreyfuss and Will Ferrell as a couple whose family is on a European ski vacation when the resort sets off. What's supposed to be controlled? Avalanche that threatens them and their kids. Each parents reaction reveals deeper divisions in the marriage. Julia Louis Dreyfuss is also a producer of downhill. We got together at the Sundance Film Festival. A couple of weeks ago. Where the movie premiered. She said she. I discussed the idea of an American remake of force majeure with Fox searchlight back in two thousand fourteen but I had just finished making this movie enough said with them and we were talking about further projects and I said believe it or not. I said you know I'm really intrigued. By stories in which reality is seen one way and then a lens is taken off and you look at reality a completely different way within the story and they said well we just came back from con. We saw this movie. You should see this movie. Because we're trying to get the rights to it to rebuild force majeure. Yeah so I said your love to see it and so they screened it and I was utterly hooked. I remember watching force majeure on my laptop and there's a scene in which there's an avalanche and the father without giving too much way doesn't exactly do the right thing that kind of and remember when I watched it. I backed up and watch like ziprecruiter film. I went frame by frame. Like what is he really do? How does he really react? And in the original movie. It's a little vague in your version. It's not I guess. It's a little more clear in your adaptation. I'M GONNA ask about that moment and in your adaptation why that was key to amplify that choice. Well we wanted to be clear what he did but unclear as to the fallout from it. So in other words The wife in this situation play by myself is in utter shock and we wanted to unravel the sweater from that point. From a storytelling point of view. This movie is certainly about the repression of Truth and truth and denial of truth. Which is I think an interesting theme particularly right now. And denial of facts But on both ends because you know initially the couple that you know. It's a stunning moment and then rather than a direct confrontation or conversation. Even about what had happened. They don't have that because I think what happened feels unmentionable because it's so shameful and so They they begin. This is a credit to Jesse Armstrong. Who did the adaptation they begin By attacking an outside source that is to say these safety. The mountains safety guy played by Christopher Hindu and on the enforce measure who is also enforced measure and wonderful in that movie as well as in our movie. Here's what I think you're not picking up on. This was a huge event for our family. Okay and Sir. I don't WanNa make this a legal matter between us. I don't know I don't I but I'm saying that I don't want nothing lyrica. Were you sue. Because your coffee's hot madame school you I'm an attorney okay. You've heard our complaints. Yeah will someone needs to hear it. Thank you for your time. And no. Thank you for your time for me. That is for certain. I thought that was such a great idea to put it away from themselves. Put that anxiety in that tension Onto somebody else before they turn on one pretty cool. We're talking with Julia. Louis Dreyfuss producer and actor in downhill on as about castain and are talking about the kids the couple because they're older than the original film and that changes something because they understand what's happening in the marriage. The kids in the other movie. I think are too young to really appreciate it. These kids are older and they know what's happening and was at written. Was that just something where you start thanking us our producer. What does it mean if these kids are twelve as opposed to seven? We totally discussed that at great length. I mean look both will and I are old right and I'm really old. No no no I am and so and when we first started doing this I was like we gotta get this done soon because pretty soon it's going to be implausible for me to have two young children and in fact they needed to be young because they had to you needed to feel as if they were vulnerable in the situation of the avalanche Had they been in their teens? You might have felt that they were possibly less vulnerable. Not that teenagers can't be vulnerable. But somehow being younger sir heightens the the the the sense of danger I think And then additionally we sort of wrote it into the script or pretty subtly implied that we were an older couple who decided to have children late in life Wills character refers to fertility treatments that we went through and whether or not it was going to work so this was a sort of a later in life choice for this couple which is sort of an interesting idea to what about. Well how did you end up? Casting him He read the script and he was super interested in it and I had seen stranger than fiction and was a very big fan of his work in that I mean I'm a fan of his work period. I mean the guys have stone cold genius but he was able in stranger than to embrace a dramatic tone and therefore he would be able to sort of tackled this material and then we met believe it or not. We never met before not some random. Hollywood party and we have these parallel lives you know because of SNL and Etcetera Etcetera. But no. We have lots of friends in common but we never met. We met four this project and we had a long coffee and talked at great length about the material and He hadn't seen force majeure he'd only read the script of downhill so and he was like I really want to do it and I said well before you sign on make sure you really want to watch the original you know and make sure you WanNa step. Put your toe into this water. There's a expression that a friend of mine who worked in marketing uses an. It's an overcome as like a marketing. Obstacle that a film has. This is a serious movie about marriage and it stars people who are generally known for doing comedies. You think that's an issue in terms of either people come in thinking it's GonNa be funny or people who WanNa see a dramatic film and being unsure of. Comedians can do it completely. It's been a challenge from a marketing point of view. I mean the trailer was very Intentionally I if you watch the trailer you'll see. That's not chock full of That's by design. It looked like it was going to kill us full moment. The kids were screaming because it felt like we were gonNA dot keet and he had grabbed his phone. Keep left us nice. I didn't leave you to bear. Even though there are plenty of jokes within the film I mean there are comedic beats but I would say more dramatic beats than comedic beats when I watch downhill. I went back and rewatch force majeure because I wanted to see how that movie ended and I'm not going to talk about what specifically happens in the ending of your film. There's a scene in both films ski run and there's a scene in your film that is new. That is I. Think my favorite scene in the movie where there's a conversation about what will Ferrell's character can do and it feels like a really interesting way to end the movie. I'm wondering about that scene about its importance in how you try to figure out how the movie should end totally without talking about what she says to her husband. Well I think that we wanted. We did not want the movie to end up with a neat little bow. We wanted to have ambiguity at the end of this film. I think it's safe to say that people might leave the theater thinking either. This couple is gonNA work it out or maybe this couple Is got a real problem on their hands and I think. Both truths are acceptable It's up for. She makes a decision and I think it's questionable decision. Okay I mean you know as a standing outside of it. I can understand why she did it but I'm not sure it's exactly the right thing to do in that moment but that's okay because They're trying to crawl their way out of this mess and this is their kind of muddy messy way of doing it. And you know it's up for discussion as to whether or not it's the right. The right move. I really liked playing that scene because I understood why she would come to that conclusion. But it was very important to me in this in the film that we made that this character that I played was flawed Because I we didn't want it to be a movie about you. Know sort of cowardice and masculinity and just that it needed to be a little more balanced and that was important to me and the wife character in our film makes a couple of pretty miserable decisions.
Bombshell: Charlize Theron on 'Wrapping Her Head around' Megyn Kelly
"Listening. Ascended the frame Oscar special. I'm John Horn host of the frame on KABC in Los Angeles. And I'm here with Jacquelyn coli editor at rotten tomatoes. Let's now turn into. Charlie's Thera in bombshell which she also produced theran plays former Fox News anchor. Megan Kelly who partners with other women at that network to take down the founder Roger Ailes. It's like we're telling women go on. Speak up for yourself just know. The entire network is with Roger. No one will believe you. They'll call you a liar. Oh and as for your career you want the Simon's airtime go ahead hall the Paranoid Man who decides your salary pervert and do that. On a anonymous hotline. He controls on on a phone. has a contractual right to record. Jesus Christ you Think Women Are Idiots. Honestly I was completely mesmerized by bombshell I was actually one of the biggest fans ends of the movie. It was kind of a bit critically divisive. I think not a lot of people liked giving some humanity to Megan Kelly but I personally found shelley's performance to be incredible and just kind of had to say about the balls it took for her to take on that role to produce it herself and to say that she wanted to tell this me too story I did talk with Charlie's an end. She told me why she wanted to make the film and why it was important to make it now. The script was written pre. Eh Time's up pre Harvey Weinstein. There wasn't any of what is out there right now in our culture as far as this conversation it's it felt else somewhat like a story in its own silo But but people were definitely kind of whispering about a lot of what what was about to come out and so you could feel it you could feel there was like this kind of like under this bubbling that was happening in the pot was about to boil over. We definitely felt that and so when we read the script we were aware a little bit. I mean nobody could predict how big all of this would be but we were aware that there was something timely about the script. How would you describe I bought? This movie is about it. It's a movie about a group of very unlikely women who if you were you know writing the fictional story you would not necessarily cast as your central characters to tell a story of taking down the biggest media mogul And yet if they did why were they unlikely. Do you think we'll because I think a lot of them You Know Gretchen. And and Megan had made some comments comments prior to all of this about sexual harassment that I found not necessarily helpful to the cause of a lot of women who are experiencing sexual harassment. I think there there is a conservative conservative view on sexual harassment. As how do you believe women. How do you know what's true how the emphasis is always on doubting the victim victim doubting the woman and I just thought it was interesting that they had had those views before in the past about sexual harassment? Megan Kelly Famously Asli Refused to be called a feminist. You know they are somewhat than most unlikely feminists that you will find. That was Charlene Charlie Farren. She's nominated for her. Lead role in
The Frame Oscar Special
"Are ready. Let's do it. Welcome to the frame Oscar special from KPCC in Los Angeles. Welcome to the one million breath and the Oscar goes to and the Oscar goes to and the Oscar goes to get anybody. I'M GONNA find you're GONNA give you. Massive snow snowed. Everybody who bought a ticket told somebody to buy a ticket. Thank you I love you if I may be so honored to have all all the female nominees and every category stand with me in this room tonight the actors Maryland you do it everybody else will come on all right all right all right. I'm John Horn host to the frame and joining me is Jacqueline coli editor at Ron Tomatoes Jacqueline. Thanks for being with us. Thanks for having me John so I know we're only a couple seconds in certified fresh so far. I think you're doing great. You're certified fresh and honestly I would say all the best picture nominees are also pretty awesome. It's probably the highest average on the tomato meter of best picture nominees. We've had in a while so I'm excited to talk about these phones. So let's start with probably the top story. I think of this year's Oscar race twenty acting nominees. One person of Color Cynthia Revo who stars as Surrey Tubman and Harriet. Yeah I'M NOT GONNA lie was extremely disappointed. When I watched each array and John Show read out the nominees few weeks ago? But I wasn't surprised actually just wrote an an article rotten tomatoes discussing this when you talk about the ninety two years of the history of the academy. There's only been thirty. Five Black Women nominated and twenty one of them have been for playing a slave a maid or woman in abject poverty it is an alarming and slightly depressing trend. I would say in the academy's Tastes And when you have performances from Octavia. CBS Spencer and loose Alfre woodard clemency. Jaylo in four inch heels giving us all she could for Hustler's and Aquafina further for well. It's really really alarming for you to say to yourself that this is where we are at the state of the academy. I'm going to hope that this year. We can have parasite as a moment if it wins. Best picture that we can say. We're moving forward. But again Cynthia being the only nominee it's It's a bit depressing parasite. I think has a legitimate chance to win the best picture. Oscar Oscar Think Bong Jun ho who directed and Co wrote. It could win director as well if it wins. The top prize the first foreign language movie in Academy History to take that prize. That is important in its own right regardless of the fact that none of its actors were nominated for performing in it. Yeah and it's also again a trend unfortunately with the academy there have been six previous best picture. Nominations from Asian cinema where none of the actors were honored with an acting nomination and unfortunately parasite kept with that trend this year here however We keep a track at our wars leaderboard and rotten tomatoes dot com of all of the winds of all of the films that are in the conversation and parasite has dominated with over a hundred in twenty five wins and to give you sort of a relative idea. The next winds is at seventy one. So parasite has been dominating with critics groups and with these these various guilds so it's poised to maybe take home the top prize but it really depends on the academy's taste and what those nine thousand members feel about the film later in the show. We're GONNA talk talk about the best picture race. We're also going to hear from some of the directors of some of the best picture nominees including Greta. Gerwig made little women was not nominated for best director. Sam Mendes from one thousand nine hundred seventeen and Bon John Hoult from parasite. But we'll start this Oscar party with some leading actresses three of the five nominees in this category had add the particular challenge of playing real people on Screen Cynthia Rio sharply staring and Renee Zellweger. Who Plays Judy Garland in Judy Yukon? There's an audience other ways. It hears you sing my mouth driving. It was judy takes place in the late. One thousand nine hundred sixty judy. Garland's career is floundering. She's struggling with sobriety. She goes to England perform at a London nightclub and Joplin one thing that surprised me. was that renee. Zellweger wasn't convinced that she could actually pull off as part. I wish I think is so crazy. That's Texas girls for you as a Texas girl I can say we're like deprecating on our talent and always like underestimate ourselves but she absolutely murdered murdered this role I remember. I woke up right in early at the tyrod film festival to watch. Her sort of embody. Judy Garland for this role and it was so I would say mesmerizing.
It's Sundance Time Again
"Welcome to the frame. I'm Steven Cuevas in for John Horn. But he's actually sitting right here beside me because by the time you hear this. He'll be at the Sundance Film Festival. John Thanks for taking time before you pack your bags my pleasure. I love the fact that I'm here but I'm not here John. There are dozens of feature films film screened at Sundance. Of course tell me about some of this year's most anticipated entries. I'M GONNA lean towards documentaries if you look at the movies that are nominated for the documentary feature academy me where this year three of them premiered at Sundance a year ago. American factory honey land and edge of democracy. And if you look at the very first night at the Sundance Dance Film Festival. There are new documentaries from producers. You might have heard of Barack and Michelle Obama. They've called Crip camp which is about the disability rights movement. There's another documentary about Taylor swift and about why. She is becoming a little bit more political and that's just in one theater in one night. Well one of the documentary entries premiering at Sundance that I wanted to ask you about It's when it's trying a lot of controversy and that's the Kirby Dick and amy during documentary on the record. It focuses on the sexual assault allegations against hip hop mogul Russell Simmons. The film was being executive. Co produced by Oprah Winfrey set to be released on Apple. TV then Winfrey suddenly. He withdrew support and some say. It was under pressure from Russell Simmons. She denies this and says it's because of questions arising from one of the alleged victims. What's to become come of this documentary on the record? Well it is going to show at the festival I mean I think there is the question whether or not Sundance was going to pull it The fact that Oprah Winfrey withdrew her support that apple. TV Hit pause in. The documentary is very unusual. And Kirby and amy have said listen. We think we've made a really good good film. We don't understand what they are complaining about. All of the edits and suggestions up until the time. The picture was locked where minor little things it does feel feel like Russell. Simmons complained to Oprah about the documentary. It's unclear if Oprah thought it was unfair or that featured one woman story over others the Booze GonNa show but for a film to go to the festival with this much. Uncertainty is highly unusual. Yeah not to get too far afield on this but I wonder if Oprah pulling away from this the project could somehow damage her own brand in this in this era of me too. Well I think she has said that. She believes the women who are accusing Russell Simmons of sexual assault and harassment. So I don't think she's saying I am not believing them anymore. I think she has to her. Mind legitimate questions about the documentary. Yeah it is important that she is on board or not on board because her producing does suggest that there is a level of quality ability and credibility to it and the fact that she's leaving it does ultimately damage. I think the standing of the film Another film to ask you about. Was this four part documentary. On Hillary Clinton Clinton. It'll be available on Hulu. She will also be attending Sundance for the first time to do promotion for this film. What you know about it and you know any any buzz around it? I guess I know a fair amount about it I'm GONNA be doing. QNA With Hillary Clinton at the festival is a four part series. That has a behind the scenes footage of her running against against Donald Trump. But it's really about her political career and about how things stand today so words at all. Hillary is a participant in this documentary. It s you said she'll be at the festival and she'll be talking with me. She says a lot of the documentary. I hope she says even more when we sit down to have a conversation. There's one other film I wanted to ask you about. And that's a a little film called feels good man and it's an indie production looking at the rise of of this comic pepe the frog that was actually created by L. A. based cartoonist and it sort of became an emblem for the outright. Who took this image and kind of started using it for antisemitic means racists memes all kinds of really nasty stuff? What do you know about the film and Are you going to see it? Yeah I'm definitely going to see. The artist is named fury. And it's about how something something becomes an icon for hate. And how the artist behind that I contract reclaim it and I think if you look more broadly at a lot of the documentaries that are playing the festival a lot of them are about what's going on in the world right now. There's a new documentary about the kids who survived the park. Land shooting about what they're doing to fight against against Gun. Violence US kids. I think that there's another documentary called early. Bird it's about the helicopter news pilot Zoey Tur and about what her works has about the tabloid of news and the Oj. Trial Voice State is a documentary about seventeen year. Old Boys a thousand from Texas says who join up to build a representative government from the ground up so wherever you look Especially in documentaries. There are a lot of films about the current state of the country. And what we might do to fix it. And what are some of the feature films. You're looking forward to checking out. I know that things that are kind of top of our sundance card include downhill. This is a remake of the movie force majeure a Foreign Language move from a couple years ago it stars. Julia Louis Dreyfuss Will Ferrell. It's made by nat facts and Jim Rash. Who did a movie called called way way back not that long ago Vigo Mortenson who is one of my favorite actors hell yeah written directed stars in a movie called following that I think is partially in Spanish? So there's nothing Vigo can't do. There's an Anthony Hopkins movie based on a play called the father. There's a movie about Gloria Steinem in many different iterations directed by Julie. Taymor you might know her from the Lion King. You know the other thing that we should talk about our number of movies that are going to sundance that are looking Ford distribution and one of the things that a lot of people forget is that Sundance is not only a film festival. It's a film market and it'll be really interesting to see given how a poorly some of the movies from last year as well at the Box Office if the checkbooks will be open s much as they were a year ago.
The Recording Academy is imploding the week before the Grammys
"Welcome to the frame John Horn Sexual Harassment Arabe and denial claims of corrupt practices. No it's not a new soap opera. It's what the recording academy is dealing with just a few you days before. It's big event the Grammy Awards last week. The academy put its president and CEO. Deborah Dugan on administrative leave yesterday she filed a sexual harassment and discrimination complaint against the Recording Academy for more on the latest developments. WE TURN TO GEM AS WAD senior music editor at variety jam. Cham- welcome back to the show. Thank you so if we believe everything that was in the complaint which was filed with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. Listen on behalf of Dugan one of the most remarkable allegations in well the the allegations sorta go in two directions. They're the ones against her personally. She says she was sexually harassed by a very prominent attorney who works closely with with the academy. She said that her ideas for changes were opposed by the board and top executives at the academy. And you know speaking with sources close to the situation. I'll say she didn't really fit in and it was a challenging doing situation for now having said that the complaint alleges is that there are all kinds of kind of insider deals going on inside inside the academy it alleges that people who are connected with certain artists are voting on nominating committees and financially the doesn't allege this is actually a fact the academy which has no in-house lawyer is paying millions and millions of dollars every year to outside law firms for work worked. She deemed unnecessary and sources say and her complaint alleges that she went into a meeting gave a big presentation about changes she planned to make which included stopping or at least dramatically cutting back payments to those law firms and three weeks later she was put on administrative leave. So let's look at a couple issues here. Hear the Recording Academy says that Dugan was shown the door or put on administrative leave because of the way she treated the former assistant to port. Now what does dougans defense of that issue. Her complaint says that is untrue that is inaccurate. And if you look at the academy's claims the public claims that they've made there are a lot of explosive words. Used the upshot of what they're saying is that she was mean and you know I mean. Do you remove move your top executive ten days before the big show because she was mean to somebody you know I mean it's just it strains credulity a bit especially if that executive we're not a woman and Dugan's complaint says the allegations are true. They say that the person in question was not. I'm not up to the job that she expected her and she was trying to find another place for in the organization in the EEOC complaint Dugan makes a couple of very explosive charges. One involves a rape allegation against her predecessor. Neil port now and the other describes some inappropriate behavior of not outright sexual actual harassment by Joel Katz. Who is a top lawyer that works with the recording academy what specifically she alleging for both port now and cats the allegation against port? Now this is an actual rape allegation. Apparently a foreign. That was the word they used. Female singer Songwriter on writer. WHO's in the KADEMI member who performed at Carnegie Hall you know? He admitted there was an allegation. He said it was it investigated and he was exonerated now. Presumably he was was investigated by the Academy in terms of her own claim of sexual harassment. She says that Before she had even started just a couple of weeks after she had signed a deal to become. CEO Joe Joe Cats took her out to dinner somewhere in Laguna Beach and she alleges she put the moves on her. We're talking with riders. Jim Aswa about what is going on inside. The Recording Academy so Porno said the rape allegations are outrageous terribly hurtful and untrue. A lawyer for Joel Katz said he categorically denies the sexual assault or harassment allegations. What does the Academy said? The academy has not responded and as of right now typically to the allegations. When it came out yesterday I went to them? Asked for a comment immediately. It took about an hour and all they did was basically regurgitate the accusations they had made about Dugan the day before and over the preceding couple of days they have happening addressed the other allegations and they may not. I mean that's the last question there are allegations and Dugan's EEOC complaint about how white and male leadership leadership and voting is inside the academy. But something that really caught my eye. I'm GonNa read a paragraph from the complaint is this. The board uses these committees. These are nominating committee for the grammys as an opportunity to push forward artists with whom they have relationships indeed it is not unusual for artists who have relationships with board remembers and who ranked at the bottom of the initial twenty artists to end up receiving nominations. So what that is suggesting is that the grammy nominating automating process itself is suspect that to me is the thing that should most concern the public. A lot of the rest of this stuff is inside baseball and and you no very legitimate complaints but you know that depends on how much you care about the makeup of the recording academy the fact that the nominations are skewed is something that has been suspected for a while because every year there are these kind of mysterious nominations that appear in certain categories. And you know those of us who watch is this. You know we've heard of most of these artists you know every year you'll just be like who would that and you know we might find out that a producer and engineer is on the nominating committee. The median Oh hey look there asong that album that they produced or engineered there. It is an old look also on the committee is someone who works at that label So Oh you know that sounds horrible. It doesn't necessarily have to be because the other side of it is the fact that the people who are good enough to get on the nominating committees prominent enough to be working with a lot of these artists. However I'm not saying that's the case all the time gem as Wad is senior music editor at variety gem? Thanks so much for coming on the show
The Return of
"Welcome to the frame. I'm John Horn. It's Academy award the nominations mornings so we're out in the field when the lowest feelers bureau of the New York Times with a carpet bagger Kaya can kyle. I brought a Muffin. Thanks for having us over where this morning. Yes I'm eagerly consuming that Muffin. I need all of a sudden it's like can get after. Today's crack of Dawn Oscar. Nominations we have both been up since very early this morning. And even though I think we're still relatively awake and conscious I still think these nominations don't make a lot of sense. So where do you WANNA start. Let's talk about the movies that didn't get any love. I was shocked that the farewell did not make it into the best picture race. And that no actors from the farewell or parasite or nominated. Yeah I loved the farewell which came out this past summer. I would've loved to see Aquafina or Josh Suzanne who plays her grandmother in that movie get in unfortunately. Yeah Yeah it just missed out on everything. Eight twenty four which distributed the farewell to very hip indies studio. But they haven't shown an ability to get any of their summer movies ever into the Oscar race in a major way. They had the same problem with eighth grade and first reformed last year and now the farewell. Meanwhile though you've got neon a sort of comparable tae twenty four which parasite six Oscar nominations no in parasite. It is not only nominated for best picture. It's also up for best international feature and best director for June Ho if it wins the best picture prize and and I gotta say it has a shot. It will become the first foreign language movie to win that top prize. But let's look a little bit more closely at who didn't make the cut so bond Jun Mojo was nominated for director. Greta Gerwig wasn't and Todd Phillips was for joker. Joker had the most nominations with eleven. How do we start to talk? Talk about joker. Well I don't know I feel like we will never stop talking about jokers thing I it's been that sort of movie since the beginning running since it was announced since people got with its themes and especially since it became a billion dollar grosser at the box office which is crazy for a movie. Yes is about a famous comic book character but it doesn't have action scenes. It's Graham it's upsetting and now it's a best picture and best director nominee is. Is it going to win those awards. I don't think so. Maybe I'm protecting myself from thinking so I do think though that Joaquin Phoenix is near lock for best actor one of the first acting. Nominations that was announced. This morning was for best supporting actress. Kathy Bates in Richard Jewel. I don't think anybody saw that nomination coming. And it did seem to suggest what was going to happen for the next nineteen acting nominees and that is only one one person of color. Cynthia Repo played. Harriet Tubman was going to get a nomination. Yes initiate to Kathy Bates but the fact that she made it in and Jennifer Lopez didn't for Haas players. I think that's one of the big stories of this morning. I personally love Hustler's I thought Jennifer Lopez was giving fantastic robust movie star performance. It's in that film for some reason. While for a couple of reasons it just did not seem to catch on as far as that award season reconceptualise ation that needs to happen. When you've got a a big hit and then you want to prove that you more than just a hit the academy with the exception of little women? This year were turned an awfully cold shoulder to female ensembles and female all directors for that matter. There's there's quite a few nominated in best documentary but almost nowhere else including the big best director category. I just it. It bothers me that I feel like stories that are made by women that star women are not afforded. The same sort of canonical. Wait we so easily give similar stories about men. We're talking with cow Buchanan from the New York Times about today's Oscar nominations when I was at the La Times before I came to KPCC along with a team of reporters spent a year investigating the membership of the academy. At that time we found that it was ninety. Four percent percents Caucasian. The median age was sixty two. It was seventy-seven percent male in the years. Since and certainly on the heels of the Hashtag Egg Oscarssowhite the academy has gone to incredible steps to try to diversify its membership but the academy like the Mafia. You're in for life life. Do you think the voting today really represents that older demographic in the kind of reluctance to embrace anything outside of parasite that feels like a modern movie. Well I think that's the thing about the Oscars and that's the reason we keep talking about it. Every year they make steps forward they make steps backward record. It is a big organization several thousand people so as much as you diversify it. There will be diverse opinions. You know last year. We had add Oscar history with them like Black Panther where it won best costume design best production design first time. A black woman had one those things you also had green book win which many consider to be sort of a retrograde racial issues claptrap. I think the academy is big enough to to be able to stay in both of those points of view and it's worth noting that the academy doesn't really run the business in any way it is only recognizing the movies that we're getting made and the jobs that are being given by people who run Hollywood today. La Mayor Eric. Garcetti unveiled an initiative to try to promote lat next talent he hopes up to double Latino Representation in Hollywood by twenty thirty. But what is it gonNA take for the industry to start making more diverse film so that the Oscars can recognize more verse films while the Oscars don't make movies but they affect the movies that get made and I think it's important to talk about that because this is sort of a cycle where all of these things feed each other movies that are greenland movies that are cast with certain people were made by certain people. They're made that way often. And because of what we are told important by the Oscars as much as the Oscars sort of say. Well we can only do so much given the films that Hollywood gives us. The Hollywood gave them plenty of amazing films. This year that were sort of disregarded out of hand I think because we don't again ascribe the same wait to certain stories. Outside of white men doing violent dramatic weighty things Kyle Buchanan is the carpet Arpey bagger The New York Times Kyle. Thanks for having us over to the Los Villas Bureau of the New York Times. I'm glad you guys could come up next on the frame we hear from Oscar nominee. Cynthia revox Vivo and Renee Zellweger. Welcome back to the frame. I'm John Horn British actress. Cynthia Revox is an academy award nominee for her performance in Harry and she's the only person of color among this this year. Twenty acting nominees. The movie directed and Co Written by Casey Lemons tells the story of how Harriet Tubman escaped from slavery and became a heroic. ROIC abolitionist when I spoke with a revox about playing tubman. I asked her how shooting in Virginia. During a cold autumn helped her get into character. It was sort of imperative for me to try and do as much as I possibly could as authentically as could do it so I opted out of the wetsuit opted out of any like extra extra warming things was doing the activities just because I didn't want to I don't want to feel comfortable really I I liked the uncomfortable of the of the work that I was doing. Because I felt like it made me I guess it gave me the space to be more connected to her connected to what what she may have gone through So that the reaction was genuine and felt real. So yeah I do. I do think it really helps in doing these. Actions to to be connected connected to the
Iran In The News And On A Comedian's Mind
"Welcome to the frame. I'm John Horn. Yesterday morning. We began again looking for an Iranian American creative type. Who could talk about possessing that identity? During these ten times our news clerk Andrea Gutierrez suggested Azzaro newer bosh a comedian whose bicultural identity is a key part of her stand up Act Zara. I am a feminist Muslim iranian-american. The American comedian. It doesn't always go that way. When Zora took her seat in our studio yesterday afternoon she hadn't heard the news that Iran had just launched missiles at American targets in Iraq? While oh yeah I didn't check the news today And I actually haven't been looking at the news because when the first mention of war with Iran came up I just they couldn't handle the click bait flare of headlines about my family and their lives lives so I just had to turn it off and wait for news from family members. Told me a little bit about your family coming to the states during the revolution where you grew up I was born. In Sacramento of my birth certificate. Is Public Record. Go look it up. My nuclear family lives here. When the Iranian Revolution broke out we couldn't go back And were left in a position much like we are in right now wondering what's the come When can we go back one? We'll things chill out. When can we see my grandma? I aunts uncles cousins and here we are again. I only went to Iran when I was fourteen and there was this window of time where things look like. Maybe they're working out. There was a feminist inclined. Leader her And things looked like maybe it's changing and I got to meet my aunts and uncles and cousins and grandma for the first time and I didn't WanNa leave the it was my first experience of just unconditional love as a teenager in a Nirvana era and we came back home and my dad came into my room and he said Were Staying Watch. Vh One and a catch up because because up until that point I was raised as though we were going to go back because my parents want me to experience a culture shock if we you went back and when my parents decided that we were for sure staying I wasn't at home in any culture and VH1 did help a lot. So I studied theater like you did at UC Berkeley. I ended up doing public radio. You ended up doing comedy. Is there a natural path from cal to what you're doing today. Oh absolutely I studied theater I studied Meta theater. The contracts that create a theater around us places that we don't see theater that are like the news and I just released a report on. Stand up comedy and all the things that we find funny and why it's like a farm-to-table field guide on jokes. Wchs you could find a pop culture. Collaborative website pop co lab dot org slash. Funny is funny and yeah I mean I don't know what's is it like for you to. I feel like anybody who studied theater right now. must feel a little bit out of body because there or is such a theater to everything going on right now that everything is performance in a way. Yes yeah I think that's true. Let me ask you this. I I studied theater and I did as a final project in one class. I had to do stand up comedy I bombed. Do you remember the first time that you went out and did stand up. Was it an open mic. Oh my God. I'll never forget how I was at a place called the Brainwash Caffeine Seabra Cisco it was Like A hazing For All comics. I mean you had to go to the brainwashed. I think people still do and I met Ali Wong. She started the same night as me. Wait Alley was going the first night her own stand up the same notice you yup. That's good company. And she killed it. I totally only bombed and I just wanted to try it again. And that's when I knew I was a comic. I think that's when you know. Is You bomb. And you're like I really WanNa try that again. People always think comics are brave. And I'm like no we have a deluded sense of optimism we're talking with comedians are a nor bash. I WANNA play a little bit from standup piece that you've done. I Say I'm Iranian. People get scared by this. I like to have fun with it. I like to sit in the front row of nuclear physics classes. Excuse me professor this plutonium the crates. I WanNa ask you not so much about that joke but about your own identity and how it became part of your comedy was that always always us. You know it's funny when you played that joke because about two weeks ago a friend of mine was like. Isn't this kind of getting a little old. And here we are With the whole new sense of stakes Identity so very soon in my career as a stand up comedian. I realized that if I don't say who who I am and what I believe in at the top of my set. Everyone will wonder the whole time. I'm talking about farts and WCHS and poop jokes and so whether I wanted to or not I had to understand my political identity and yet you wrote in The New York Times a couple of years ago about how some of your humor was received and how you felt a part of that narrative and this is what you wrote i. I tried to humanize Muslim families with my one woman show. All Atheists are Muslim showing the story of moving in with my white atheist college boyfriend and telling my parents about the message. The audience was meant to be left with was that if total nonbelievers and Muslims can find common ground then everyone in between should be able to unsurprisingly. None of this worked. Yeah because what would end up happening is after shows people would come up to me and say well. You're one of the good Muslims and that it's is that confirmation bias just they would just take me and relegate me to the part of their brain that accepted people and go back to demonizing everyone else. Let's explain the good Muslim versus the bad Muslim. Because that's part of what you talk about. How would you define a no win situation? The the things that make you acceptable or like a friend to one community is what demonize you to another things that make it with one group of people break it with another. There's no winning and regardless your character is up for question it's a witch trial. So what do you say to yourself. What is my role as comic? Do I not worry about the outcomes. How do you process those guns reactions? You know the most powerful the thing that I've come to realize for me is that it's never up to any one individual. I think the most important thing that we as Americans need to know is that we are part collective that we need community. We need infrastructure that there is not one strategy that there's narrative strategy there's cultural change their policy change there's infrastructural change we need all of it and all of it needs to be doing the work and I don't think that it's right to put all all of that weight on any one person's shoulders we all have a role to play and we need to do the best job we've ever done ever this year. You have a great title senior fellow on comedy for Social Change With the pop culture collaborative. What is that? And how are you you finding allies in what it is you're trying to do. I find allies with people who have intersecting experiences With me I am. I am a bisexual
Nell Scovell: 'Ten Years Ago, I Called Out David Letterman. This Month, We Sat Down to Talk'
"Welcome to the frame John Horn ten years ago. TV writer Nelson Avella took a pretty big risk. She published an article calling out her former boss. Late night King David Letterman for running writer's room and a show that favored men scovill has since co authored. Sheryl Sandberg's two thousand thirteen book. Lean in and last year she published a memoir. You're just the funny parts and a few hard truths about sneaking into Hollywood boys club for her latest piece. In Vanity Fair Scoville met with Letterman to finally talk about gender discrimination at late night. Scoville join me in studio and described what it was like to write for Letterman in one thousand nine hundred ninety. Yeah so this was a dream. I'm job for me I had already worked in Los Angeles. I actually worked on the last season of newhart. And I'd written a Simpson's episode road and I finally. After years of sending material to the Letterman people got a call asking me to come in and meet with Dave and like a lot of late night shows not a lot of women in the writer's room. Now there's only been one before I got hired it was Merrill Marco who was a genius and the first head writer on that show and also Dave's girlfriend at the time so I guess I was the first female hired who was in a relationship with Dave so many years after you leave the show in two thousand and nine something compels you to write about your experiences sir. Right Dave was the victim of a blackmail attempt. He was having an affair with one of his assistants Whose boyfriend found her diary and the scheme was that he threatened to write a screenplay about the affair? If Dave didn't give him two million dollars at the same time Nancy Franklin writes a piece in the New Yorker that points out that there were zero female writers on Letterman Leno and Conan. And I have to say Dave's announcement was not surprise. Is anyone who worked on the show knew about his extracurricular activities. But the fact that I'd been gone for twenty years and they'd move backwards awkward as far as gender in the writer's room that was stunning to me and I literally lost sleep so on a fast forward word to a decision you make and certainly there's another party to this conversation which is going back today. Insane I want to have a conversation about about the fact that you didn't respond to what I wrote. And how did that come about because there seems to be an important condition and that is that it's on the record as we approached October twenty nineteen. I knew it was the ten year anniversary of this article I had written for Vanity Fair and then I just got this crazy idea which is With Dave sit down and talk to me and I knew he hadn't read the article because in this weird coincidence he and I ended up working together in twenty fourteen on the Kennedy Center Honors and I actually had a chance to ask him. Did you ever read that article. And he said to my face no. I don't worry about that stuff. Don't worry about that stuff it meaning inning. He didn't wear. He doesn't worry about what people write about him. Is that what it means. Already doesn't worry about how he behaved and how he treats women he claims it is the former when you sat down with David. I'm curious what was the most striking thing that he had to say. Well first of all it was pretty extraordinary that he agreed to sit down with me. If you do any reading about apologies and someone wronged you find out that as the person who has been wronged you lose status status and so the second Dave agreed will sit at a table and talk. He really did offer me the status right. We were equals at that table and I would love to see more powerful white men doing that sort of thing which is being open to that discussion so the point was not just for me to get what turned out to be an apology from Dave but also to you try to model behavior that I would like to see more. We're talking with TV writer and author Nelson cavill you mentioned in your Vanity Fair Peas. How male all writers rooms have been for people like Jay Leno and he has no regret and no apology? No it's all about the material. Just if you give me material than I will hire you. Just come up to me in a comedy club. He says you know Jay Leno went off. The air was zero female writers and that's he should be ashamed that for the rest of his life. What would you say are the things that make you optimistic about how conversations are changing not just in and around this issue but in the workplace about a show runners interest in hiring a room that looks like the country not like the country club? I do think we've made some improvement and I think it certainly helps to have people like Kenya barriers and Shonda rhimes who have been so successful and even giverny They're all doing amazing work. And I think it's Shonda who made an amazing observation. which is if you walk outside? You see people of all colors. There's US see people from all walks of life that's normalcy so we actually shouldn't call it. Diversity what we want is normalcy. You know in Nineteen nineteen ninety. I went to the EMMYS for the first time Letterman had been nominated and I was in the audience when they announced the nominees for the five best comedies comedies and it was Murphy Brown Golden Girls Designing women wonder years and cheers three and a half of those shows were created by women. Diane English one for Murphy Brown and I sat there in nineteen ninety and thought we we solve this. We proved it. You're if such a dreamer now I just want to get back to where we were in. Nineteen Ninety nells. cavill is a TV writer. She's the author of the memoir. Just the funny parts in a few hard truths about sneaking into the Hollywood boys club. Now thanks much for coming in. Thank
Screen Actors Guild Reveals Award Nominees
"Welcome to the frame Steven Cuevas filling in for John Horn our broadcast was preempted today for special coverage of the presidential impeachment proceedings. But we bring you this special podcast addition to talk about the screen actors Guild Award nominations which were announced today and what better person to call on John Horn. WHO's on assignment assignment in New York? Hey John Hey Steven how are you. Okay so let's start with the nominees for outstanding performance by a male actor in a leading role. What do we got so the nominees? He's were Christian. Bale from Ford versus Ferrari Leonardo di Caprio for once upon a time in Hollywood Adam driver from marriage story Joaquin Phoenix from joker car. And then probably the surprise in the category is turned Edgerton. Who Played Elton John and rocket man? If you start looking at who isn't in I think. Probably the most was notable exclusion as Robert Deniro for his lead role in the Irishman. He is getting a lifetime. Achievement Award Screen Actors Guild Award. So maybe that was part of the math but Jonathan Pryce was not nominated from two popes. Adam Sandler was not nominated from uncut gems and also left out of the competition was Antonio Banderas for pain and glory. Yeah it was a little surprised to see Bandera slept out you and I talked about that film and I think we agree that it was kind of career. Defining performance Let's move on to the lead actress. Category Who have their we have Cynthia Areso from? Harriet Scarlett Johansson from marriage story. The neon go from us. Charlie's therein Erin from bombshell and Renee Zellweger from Judy not a lot of surprises there. There were two women of color. The surprise I guess was that that search or Ronin was not nominated for little women some people thought Aquafina might have gotten in from the farewell. In fact little women did really badly today in the screen actors Guild L. Dominations and how about supporting role in the mail categories some pretty juicy performances. There are some really good pegues. Jamie Fox was nominated for Justice mercy. Tom Hanks Sup- Played Fred. Rogers and a Beautiful Day in the neighborhood. A couple of actors from the Irishman Al Pacino. And Joe Patchy and then Brad Pitt from once upon a time in Hollywood I said earlier. Jonathan Pryce was not nominated for playing Pope Francis in the two popes. Anthony Hopkins was not nominated for playing Pope Benedict in the two popes as well and this is also one of those weird categories in terms of. WHO's supporting and WHO's lead? It's one of those things where the studios can kind of say to the screen actors guild and the academy and other words as we think. This person is a lead this person's supporting I mean. They're two popes are mostly onscreen for the the same time. And you have Brad Pitt. Who is up for supporting actor? Leonardo DiCaprio for lead actor and once upon a time in Hollywood. I think he put a stop. Watch on it Leo. Joe Might have like twenty seconds or screen time. I don't know it feels like that's kind of tricky. Math and Tom Hanks's probably star of a beautiful day in the neighborhood. Even though he shares there's Screen time with another character again. The studios got to decide of the actors. Don't vote somebody in that category than they don't get nominated yes. Some people might be especially puzzled by the Tom. Hanks category for him winding up in the supporting actor. Can you explain that a little bit like why why that is well. I think if you look at that that film you can say that even though. It's a movie about Fred Rogers. It's really about the journalist whose life is transformed by meeting with Fred Rogers and something similar happened. In the supporting actress. Category according to Variety Kathy Bates is in this film by Clint Eastwood. Call Richard Jewel rule and she's been getting some awards attention in the supporting actress. Category but according to Variety Warner brothers mistakenly submitted fitted her as a lead actress for the screen actors Guild Awards and she didn't get nominated and she didn't get nominated for supporting actress because they had submitted committed error in probably the wrong category. Well who else do we have in the category of supporting actress. Another pretty strong category. Laura dern from marriage stories Scarlett Johansson another nomination for Joe Joe Rabbit this time and then to actors from bombshell Nicole Kidman and Margot Robbie and finally Jennifer Lopez from Hustler's right. We have so we have Scarlett Johansson nominated for both lead and supporting actress rare A little bit but you know pretty. Good Year for Scarlett Johansson. I don't think you can fault any of those performances. I think they were both really strong. And you know she's playing opposite. Visit Adam driver. Who was nominated for marriage story? Joe Joe Rabbit as we're GONNA say in just a second got a little bit more attention as well so both nominations. I'd say we're served in both. Were in really good films. Let's finish up with the outstanding performance by a cast in a motion picture. Is it true that this winter is often a predictor for the Academy Award Best Picture winner in historically. Yes that has been true but if you look at the last two best picture winner shape of water and green book they weren't even even nominated for the Sag Ensemble Award so yes. It is a good thing to be nominated for in terms of Academy Awards because it's important to note the actress. Branch ranch is the biggest branch in the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences. So what the actors do in the screen actors. Guild awards is often a good harbinger of what the Oscar Asker voters might do. So the nominees for on Samba were bombshell. Which I think is a little bit of a surprise? Good news for that film. The Irishman Joe Joe Rabbit once upon a time time in Hollywood and the real surprise in this category was parasite which is a Korean film. It's only the second foreign language film in Sag History. The other one one was life is beautiful to get a nomination for the ensemble award. I think it's really important for parasite. I think it's interesting. THAT MARRIAGE BRIDGE STORY WASN'T NOMINATED FOR ENSEMBLE. Neither was little women and so all the power seemed to be going to parasite right now and I would have to say say once upon a time in Hollywood and the Irishman well there you have it this year's screen actors Guild Award nominations in the film category. John you may resume get your New York theatre going. Thank you Steve. And I'll go do it right now
The Politics Behind The Golden Globe Awards
"Welcome to the frame. I'm Steven Cuevas filling in for John Horn. But we're about to hear from John On. He's covered the movie industry for more than two decades as a print reporter and so we figured he's the best person to explain the significance or lack thereof of the Golden Globe awards. The Hollywood Foreign Press Association today announced the nominees for its annual awards which take place in early January but rather than detail the usual inexplicable explicable nominee choices and snubs. We thought we talk about the relationship between movie fans the Globes and the entertainment industry. I John tells us who makes up the association. What's important to me about the Golden Globes and about some other kind of minor film? Awards is that this is not a representative presentative body. They're about ninety journalists. And if you go on the website for the Hollywood Foreign Press Association you can no longer even find their names teams or where they work. It's a very small group of people and they have undue influence because the movie studios have figured out that if they wou- the voters for the Golden Globes and they're filmmakers win awards at the Golden Globes it kind of create some sort of momentum for the Academy Awards but none none of it is very legitimate and H. MPA has cleaned itself up. It's not a scandal ridden as it has been in years past but this isn't an elite group of film writers or film critics that are making these selections and if you look closely at the selections not just this year but but in past years the fact that they are really that serious ask kind of film. Lovers starts to reveal itself pretty quickly. How so? Well let's talk about a couple of past nominations twenty thirteen. There were three nominations for a movie. I bet you you've never heard of salmon. Fishing in the Yemen amend that was a Golden Globe Walker. If you go back nine years to twenty ten there was a movie with Johnny. Depp called the tourists that was largely largely derided that ended up getting multiple nominations at the Golden Globes. And I think if you look closely at some of the selections this year it's clear it's it's driven by the red carpet like who do they wanna have on the red carpet you look in the TV category. There are multiple nominations for the morning. Show a apple all series. That didn't get great reviews because Jennifer Aniston is coming reese witherspoon is coming as nominees and then you look at Ava d'auvergne as when they see us. One of the most critically acclaimed TV series of the past year didn't get any nominations so it's important for the NBC. Show to have that star Klaus so there's eyeball so so people watch. I think that's part of the bias historically for the Golden Globes that you can say it judging between good filmmaker and a less name they generally are going to vote for the last name and they also have some historical by sees you know that are shared by the Academy in the seventy seven year history of the Globes. Only five women have ever been nominated for best director and this year. There are lots of really good female filmmakers that were up Greta Gerwig for little women. Olivia Wilde for book. SMART Hurrell for honey. Boy Marielle Heller for Beautiful Day in the neighborhood. Not One of them got nominated so golden gloves has a pretty poor history when it comes to nominate women the Golden Globes has made some the effort to try to rehabilitate this reputation. What has it done? It's made sure that people who are members actually have legitimate emmett credits. As journalists there been some reports of. I guess you could call it. Bribery or expensive gifts in the past. I think they've tried I to eliminate all of that so again they have cleaned up their act. But there's only so much legitimacy you can bring to yourself when you're only ninety journalists writing for publications that if we had the names I guarantee you you've probably never heard of them and yet the industry I I guess mostly plays along and an actor or director or studio can use success at the Globes as part of their campaign going into Bosco Bosko season one hundred percent and I think that is one of the most interesting parts of the story. Everybody in Hollywood knows in their soul that at the Golden Globes are really not totally legitimate and yet the studios independent companies and marketing departments. Embrace raise them because they recognize. There's a game to be played and the game is. We're going to court the Golden Globe voters we're going to have screenings and QNA's for them and and if we get a nomination are actor or filmmaker is going to be on their awards show and people are going to start talking about the film and one thing gets the other but they do know that really. It's not totally legit but it serves their purposes academy award. Campaigning is a multi title million dollar business. There are people who work as campaign consultant who get hundreds of thousands of dollars for getting nominations or Oscar wins wins. There is a huge business behind all of this and in some ways it might drive ticket sales or people to stream movies so it's driven by finance finance is driven by trying to get eyeballs on the movies but it's all kind of a hustle so John I've never covered the entertainment industry that closely so so like a lot of people in the public eye really always just saw the Golden Globe awards as the first among that more high profile award shows to spotlight the top films of the year. Going into Oscar seasons am I am I off on that. Were not technically off. I mean because the Hollywood Foreign Press Association Asian nominates into different categories for most of the major film awards they cast a wider net. So just mathematically. They're bound to include lewd a lot of movies. That end up getting nominated. I wouldn't say they're that much of a bellwether but because they're embracing so many movies. They have a a mathematical chance of getting most of those things right. John Horn out in New York. John Thanks for joining us to talk about the Golden Globes. We'll see when you get back. Thanks for sitting. In
Five Years Later, Who Really Hacked Sony?
"Welcome to the frame. I'm John Horn five years ago. Oh just as Thanksgiving approached employs at Sony pictures logged into their computers and were greeted by this ominous message hacked by Hashtag copay over a picture of a sinister looking red skeleton. GOP reportedly stands for guardians of peace a previously unknown group now claiming credit for the hack the the hackers leaked millions of files putting confidential employee. Information and embarrassing e mails about the studios internal workings out in the Open Ben. Fritz there's an editor at the Wall Street Journal and the author of the book. The big picture the fight for the future of movies and he remembers being in the Journal. Newsroom when he heard about the hack I remember I remember reading about it online and talking to a few sources I knew what Sony and of course it I I didn't really understand the magnitude of it and how how damaging it would be that it wasn't until the next week I believe when When they started leaking all these documents and information I started to see some of the stuff that was coming out and realized? Just how serious this was for. Those who don't remember the hack was quickly connected to North Korea and Kim Jong Moons anger over the film the interview. It started Seth Rogan James Franco as a couple of TV. TV journalists who are going to interview and potentially assassinate the North Korean president. And at the time we were interviewing the screenwriter. Dan Sterling this. This is back in two thousand fourteen. You know I was at a party. On Saturday night where the per- the host was introducing me to everybody at the party. As this is the guy that brought down Sony. It was funny by that. Well the first four or five hundred times the joke was made It was funny except actually in a way. It's actually not funny to me. How was the heck essentially blamed on the movie and was that theory actually borne out after the fact? North Korea was in fact behind the hacking and Kim Jong was very very mad. That this you know American film was was was mocking him. Northwards of very poor country but they do actually have A. It's kind of very good Hacking program and He wanted to stop them from coming out and or punish Sony for having made it and he was pretty successful on both fronts. At the time the leading theory experts was there was North Korea but a lot of people around Sony. Thought it couldn't be eight or maybe it was angry at employee's rivals or something but The the FBI About a year ago concluded pretty definitively that it wasn't Korea and in fact they indicted Somebody who was part of a North korean-backed hacking team that was called the Lazarus project and was for numerous cybercrimes including the intrusion at Sony. That a lot of people forget. Is that the movie. We didn't really get released. I mean Sony was so worried about it that they pulled the release and then they kind of backtracked on that and at the time we were talking gene with a guy named James cursed he's the founder of. La's downtown independent theatre. He is in the studio talking about the movie. And this is what happens. There's been so much we were getting calls about it. My phone's ringing up. Oh it's the REP from Sony. Go ahead take it. Hi this the gym so he actually gets a call from Sony in the middle of the interview pain. Can you play the. Can you play movie in your theater. It ends up not getting getting much of an exhibition schedule at all. Does it. No it only a few hundred independent theaters briefly What happened was the hackers threatened that they were going to Bomb or cause violence at at an attack any theater that played the film and You know understandably a lot didn't wanNA play and as a result and Sony you know AH incorrectly so they weren't going to force any theater to play it even those that had contractual obligations to do it and then it was just crazy thing where a few hundred independent theaters did play it and It was also released online simultaneously by a few companies that were willing to do that. Not many people ended up seeing results. So if that was Kim Jong UN's goal he was very successful at that. Most people didn't see the film and Sony was severely damaged by the hack. So you gotta give the wind North Korea here very sadly well. Let's talk about how Sony was damaged by the hack. You spent a lot of time. I'm looking through documents. Released in the hack for part of your research and your book the Big picture the fight for the future of movies. So what did it reveal about Sony. And how did it more important reveal. How the studio had kind of lost its way right? So the hacktivists released tons of you know from the top executives at the time as well as internal documents than really sensitive financial stuff and it revealed when it comes to the interview that they had had numerous discussions about something like this happening and didn't take it seriously really. There was a lot of conflict between the top executives at the studio and they weren't just having a lot of trouble coming up with major motion picture franchises that could compete with you know the marvels marvels and the fast and furious is of the world. It was really an amazing insight into a studio that was struggling to adapt to the modern movie business. Well I'm going to ask about marvel because one of the the most remarkable pieces of information in your book is how and why Sony Refuse to pay twenty five million dollars for almost all of Marvel superheroes in the late nineties. So what did that episode say. About how Hollywood is changing and how Sony really missed the future. Yeah Hollywood You know in the late nineties. Not Rule I- franchises. The way it is now is really ruled ruled by movie stars. So Sony thought. Well we've got Adam Sandler we've got will Smith. That's that's what really is valuable. You know we're not gonNA waste our money in the reserve. It was maybe spider-man's valuable but that that's all that's all they wanted. And of course Sony horrifically miscalculated and. There's there's a Lotta stuff in the hack about Sony's attempts to to fix that mistake including trying to revive the spiderman franchise a few years ago. I think it's fair to say that in the wake of the Sony Hack back a lot of studios and a lot of companies probably try to improve their firewalls and had better. It security but do you think there's a bigger less than about Hollywood. That might be remembered from the hack. Do you think it still has an impact on the business into people still talk and think about what happened to Sony people. You know people all the time reference Sony when they when they talk about. How much sensitive stuff should we say on an email? There's a sense that there's this knowledge not to censor knowledge that email is never truly secure. And if you're not necessarily they comfortable with the world knowing about it then you probably shouldn't put it in an email if you don't have something nice to say. Don't say it at all. I guess or at least eight on the phone Ben. Fritz is an editor At The Wall Street Journal and he is the author of the book. The big picture the fight for the future movies Ben. Thanks so much for coming back on the show. John was my pleasure
Here’s What Happened in Kanye West’s Opera Nebuchadnezzar
"Welcome to the frame. I'm John Horn on Sunday evening. Gene fans of rapper. Kanye West gathered at the Hollywood bowl to see and hear the artist latest venture. It's an opera based on the biblical story of a Babylonian King. This comes on the heels of Connie's most recent album called Jesus is king in a series of Sunday services. He's been mounting at various locations nations. La Times pop music critic. Michael Wood was at the Hollywood bowl and he says the cast and crew could have used a little more time to get ready. This thing was down to the minute I mean look. I've been to the Hollywood bowl a jillion times. I have never seen through the gate in the back Sawdust all over the place. They were constructing something that I think when I saw it later come out in. The show is like some sort of long feasting table. You could hear what was either. There's soundcheck or just indeed Konya like finishing writing the opera like they didn't even let people in till however long past doors supposed to open and you could hear them working on on the opera inside so even if the paint was dripping wet. Did you get an idea of what it was that he he was after because it feels like it was not finished but maybe there was a germ of an idea at the center of it. Yeah that's fair to say. Say Look you you want to be charitable somebody WHO's trying his hand at a new form but I think maybe somebody said opera to Connie a and he said yeah. That's the ticket. Nothing about this. Felt like he had anything to say that required opera as the form to say it in. I think that the story such as it was was not really considered I mean the whole thing was just sort of grabbing I from what we think of as opera and just sort of pushing them altogether. How does this fit into some of the other things that Kanye has been doing doing recently including Sunday service and his Jesus is king album? Obviously there's the sort of religious content which connects to the album. Jesus as King Album which connects to Sunday service. The music in this desert show was rooted in in choral singing which is also the case with Sunday service
Latinos are sorely underrepresented in film
"Welcome to the frame. I'm John Horn. Latinos have been underrepresented in Hollywood for a long time both in front of and behind the camera last week a delegation from the Congressional Hispanic Caucus came to La to discuss the issue with Industry Leaders Congressman Joaquin Castro of San Antonio is Chairman of the Group and he says the Hispanic Caucus has a couple of concerns about representation. We worked in in Los Angeles on two issues in particular the gross underrepresentation of Latinos in the entertainment industry and the second getting is portrayal of Latinos in television and film for example. This latest Annenberg report found that of the lead characters on film. Twenty eight percent played criminals which is obviously for any American community or segment of society Misrepresentation and so we had meetings with six or seven studios and executives from those studios. We met with a few of the Gills. The street actors Guild Sag after and the directors guild and and we had a chance to meet with about forty Latino actors actresses producers directors and others about the Hollywood ecosystem Oh system and the challenges that they face hitting work in that system. It's not just the kinds of parts. That Latinos are getting. It's the number of parts Latino. Oh actors barely got four and a half percent of the more than forty seven thousand speaking roles in the top one hundred grossing movies from each though past twelve years and Latinos make up a huge percentage of the US population but also the movie going public. It's almost a quarter of all. Ticket buyers are Latinos. So was there any explanation explanation about that. Disconnect yeah I mean we had pleasant meetings with everyone And you know and everybody talked about. The things are doing to try to do better better. I can't say that there was a satisfactory answer to that. Issue up they did talk about their different pipelines for writing for directing. You know this and that that they're working on. But as I said to those folks in the meetings look if you're at three percents now of Latinos in front of the camera behind the camera then. Whatever you've been doing doing in the past obviously has not worked? So what are you doing right now. And what do you plan to do to improve those numbers And it's very strange that an industry like Hollywood this considered liberal and progressive. Then he would have worse numbers than the fossil fuel industry the oil and gas industry in my home state of Texas Texas. The numbers obviously don't lie the representation of Latinos along with a lot of underrepresented groups in Hollywood is terrible. Why is it important that that it changed? And why is it important to you personally. Well there is a cost to that underrepresentation in C. Suites In terms of casting directors producers etc and part of that cost is a misprint trail of Latinos. I think get no. We not only affects how the how people see themselves but also how. The larger American public sees a Latino community. So when a president or we're politician or anyone else gets up and says that Latinos are criminals and rapists murderers and people turn on their television set and they go to a movie movie and that's exactly what they see then. It affirms that idea for them that the person who's speaking is right and taken to its extreme. It leads to what you've gotTa Know Paso Texas a few months ago which is a madman driving Ted Hours to kill twenty one people. Because he sees Hispanics as invaders to the United States never mind that Latinos have been here for generations. So Hollywood has to take a really deep and close look in the mirror and start to change and change -serily not just by lip service but actually changed. And how do you think that will come about because we've had study after study leave for the last decade that's pointed out these numbers and it doesn't seem like the needle is moving. Do you see any hope for optimism. You you know I. I was Optimistic after it was conversations in terms of Congress's involvement in Congress does have jurisdiction over tax incentives. That provided to the film industry. Just like different state. Legislatures have jurisdiction over tax incentives. That are offered in different places where movies and television television productions are set. But I I'll tell you I did tell some of the folks in these meetings that for us for those of us that were on that trip for the Congressional National Hispanic Caucus and I think for I would dare say for many other members of Congress we have is a mark Zuckerberg level problem here in terms of Hollywood. We have have a problem where an industry is acting incredibly irresponsibly and doesn't seem to be doing very much to change it so the idea that you would bring executives from from Hollywood in front of Congress. The Judiciary Committee is the committee that has jurisdiction basically over Hollywood. That idea I think is something that we should consider consider. Let's assume that these Hollywood executives who aren't really doing what maybe there should be doing. Were to testify in front of Congress. What would you ask them? Congress has brought different industries In front of it to question them on their practices in terms of hiring and diversity and what commit. But they're making do those things and so I ask him questions about the processes they put in place. I mean. Look when you're in a city that is forty percent. Latino in a state is forty percent Latino country that's eighteen percent Movie ticket buyers. That are twenty three percent over indexed on movie ticket sales and this group of people only has about three percent of the rolls when you combine in front of and behind the camera you get to a point where you have to admit that that's systemic exclusion of a group of people and when we have systemic problems not just individual problems or one person here there air when you have problems. Those are the kinds of things that Congress and legislatures should get involved with Joaquin. Castro represents San Antonio in the US House of Representatives. He also chairs the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Congressman. Thank you so much for coming on the show
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"The frame I'm John horn on today show the dispute between Netflix and movie theater owners continues and this time it's Martin Scorsese who is caught in the middle then John Leguizamo has an Emmy nomination for when they see us and his date show Latin history for morons won a Tony he says both projects challenge flawed historical narratives and if the correct history was put out there Atlanta black people were really instrumental in the making of the United States then there'll be a lot more respect and people would not be so bold as to you know tell us to go back to where we came from all that coming up on the frame from KPCC news I'm Nick Roman with the stories we're covering it seven oh one after the twin earthquakes near ridge crest in early July a whole bunch of Californians bought earthquake insurance in July the California earthquake authority sold nearly twenty four thousand policies because recent earthquakes in ridgecrest were so strong and felt as far away as Sacramento got a big jolt and with that a big reminder that they need to be paying attention that's great **** with the California earthquake authority Nash says Nancy says a July some of the highest the second highest monthly increase in new policies in the last two decades was twenty four thousand new policies four times what had been sold in the first six months of the year of lawsuits filed today in LA over a line of textured breast implants made by Allah gan to patients claim the implants raise the risk of developing a rare subtype of non Hodgkin's lymphoma they say Allah again this Mister downplayed the higher risk Hillary court says she got the implants she had a preventive mastectomy after she learned she had a gene mutation link to breast cancer I never would have had this friend of implants in this kind of this one.
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"Back to the frame John horn Gina Davis has made a career out of playing roles that quickly become feminist icons Thelma in Thelma and Louise Dottie Hinson a league of their own and while we have yet to have a woman president Davis brought one to life as McKenzie Allen in the TV series commander in chief you can't talk to me like that what I can tell you the truth it's inappropriate and makes the staff uncomfortable I'll come on I didn't say anything that any one of them wasn't thinking what you said right it's how you said it but the overwhelming absence of quality female characters in Hollywood inspired her to launch the Gina Davis institute on gender in media so it makes sense that she's an executive producer of the new documentary this changes everything about the fight for gender equity in Hollywood Davis says she's made it a mission to shine a light on how women and girls are portrayed in popular culture because not enough has changed for women since our nineteen ninety one breakout role in Thelma and Louise we get off the haven like that with women you need now hi how do you feel somebody that your mother or your sister or your last what are you talking about you know can damn well and I'm talking now amazing really that business with your tongue what is that that is discussed when water memories came out it was really fun to be in a movie this struck a nerve like that and all the press was talking about now everything's going to change this movie was such a phenomenon that discreetly so many more movies with women leads or female body pictures road pictures whatever and so I was like wow that's fantastic news and then the very next movie I made was Lee of their own where is the reaction was now this is gonna be so many female sports movies this proves once and for all that people are craving if you help sports movies than the group cobwebs waiting for that to happen and and it also after some of the ways every single interview it did seem like they would ask are things better things are better now for women right and at first I think so sure seems like it but soon enough I realized it wasn't the truth there is the moral argument by this is what the country looks like and this is how it should be presented there's the economic argument this is how well these things do when there are diverse cast and diverse filmmakers but then there's the impact argument and I want to talk about a clip in the documentary we're talking about how images of women in TV and film really impact young women and girls images are so powerful.
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"John horn on today's show in the era of peak tv and a handful of blockbusters dominated the box office is there a future for movie theaters then words by l._g._b._t._q. artists make their way out from behind bars to a museum show called on the inside there's so much talent and emotion and power and strength that we don't have access to because you know so many people are incarcerated in this country and fifty years after stonewall we've got the story about the largely unknown music of the early galeb ration- movement all that up on the frame from a._b._c. news on nick roman with the stories we're covering it seventy one governor gavin newsom today signed to main spending bill in the state budget package it's got his agreement with democratic legislative leaders on how to push local governments to build more housing details from capital public radio's ben adler the deal at cities and counties earn bonus points toward winning state housing grants if they voluntarily adopt ordinances that make it easier to plan approve or construct new project it could also lead to courts finding cities and counties up to six hundred thousand dollars each month if they repeatedly refused to comply with certain california housing requirements the agreement drew praise from san jose mayor sam lucado we're at a point in this crisis where we need more than just carrots we need decks because only way housing is going to get built in the state is this cities and towns allow it to get democratic senator scott weiner says he backs the agreement because it puts teeth into existing law but warns it's not nearly enough to solve california's housing prices substitute.
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"I'm John Rabi in today for John horn. There's a forty four million dollars tentative settlement in the civil portion of the Harvey Weinstein sexual misconduct case, the Wall Street Journal, broke the story, I called reporter, Karen Ramey in the journal's newsroom and Astor how they wind up with forty four million forty four million comes from months and months, pretty contentious negotiations over what women should be paid, how they should be paid, and who should pay it right in a dozen mediation sessions that I guess got pretty ugly. Yeah. They did get ugly, because there were a lot of competing interests play here, there were women who said they were victims and should be compensated. And a lot of these are these are women who filed lawsuits. There are also insurance companies the New York attorney general's office, which filed its own civil rights lawsuit about employment conditions against both Harvey Weinstein and his company, and we should be very clear here. This is not just a settlement that involves Harvey Weinstein. Absolutely. There's quite a few women who sued Harvey Weinstein. But some of these same women including proposed class action suit to board members, former officers and directors executives and all kinds of people who surrounded Harvey Weinstein saying that they knew about his alleged behavior and enabled it. And so this proposed settlement also would any legal proceedings for all those other defendants. Adam Harris, who is Bob Weinstein's lawyer announced the settlement saying, we now have an economic agreement in principle that is supported by the plaintiffs is, though, this settlement, what the plane is hope for. It's not even close. I think the plaintiff to say play. I mean, particularly the class of women who say they were abused by Mr. Weinstein had hoped for way, way, more money. And so in a way, this is a little bit of a disappointment. The breakdown goes forty four million proposed thirty million goes to the plaintiffs fourteen million goes to pay legal fees. How's that thirty million going to be broken up doing so I do want to say this is still tentative sort of proposed agreement. And some of these details are still being worked out, but we know that, that thirty would include money that would go to women to former Weinstein company employees and then also studio creditors. And Mr. Weinstein former studio is going to bankruptcy right now. And so this process is also to resolve some claims in bankruptcy. And then I would assume for the for the plaintiff to alleged sexual harassment that it would be a sliding scale based on this Verity of the harassment. Again, if details are still being ironed out. But the way these things typically work is there would be some sort of special master person in charge of a warning appropriate amounts of money to different people who apply to get money from the victims fund and in exchange. Agreed to either drop their lawsuit or not file, where's the forty four million coming from insurance companies are paying all of it. You can buy insurance to cover illegal acts. Well, it's complicated. These are sort of broad employment policies and what they're actually covering is defense costs. And so it's defense costs, not just for Harvey, but also for the directors and officers, those are the former executives former board members once seen studio. And women have sued them alleging that they sort of facilitated Harvey's behavior. Does Weinstein admit any guilt in this forty four million dollars proposed settlement. He does not important to mention, though to that there's a criminal case against Weinstein in Manhattan, and this is not impact the criminal case in any way. If you read the comments section in the newspaper stories about this. A lot of people are saying, Harvey Weinstein just bought himself out of jail. But no. This is this. The civil part of the of the suits against him, not the criminal parts. Yeah. This is only civil suits. There's a lot of dome, but they are all civil and criminal charges. They're still there. He's expected to go to trial in September, when they pick a jury for this trial. Are they ever going to be able to find a juror who doesn't know that there was a forty four million dollar settlement? They're probably going to answer that question. More broadly, they're going to have trouble finding juror who's not aware Harvey Weinstein. But that's okay. What they're at the end of the day. What to look for is people who sort of haven't made up their mind about Harvey, or people who say that they can be fair and only listen to the evidence at trial and not include in their thought process. All these other things I've read in the news. What's the next step for the settlement? Well, not final. There are further discussions coming up between all the parties. So they need to sort of they need to hammer out these last minute details. See if they can all agree on them. And my understanding is that settlement will also have to be approved by judge Corinne, rainy. Reporter for the Wall Street Journal. Current thanks very much. Great. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Going up on the frame and artist who's looping the last aria of the marriage of Figaro for twelve hours. John, why stay with us? This match on film week tomorrow at noon, Critic's review, Disney's Aladdin, a live action remake of the Ninety-two animated, film Will Smith stars as gene. It's film weeks. Saturday at noon here on eighty.
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"Is the frame, I'm John horn media critic and feminist anita's are made headlines a couple of years ago when she called out sexist and misogynistic depictions in video games Surtees eons criticism triggered threats of graphic violence and virtually non-stop online harassment against her part of what became known as gamer gate, her latest project through her website, feminist frequency aims to root out toxic to pictures of LGBTQ characters in gaming, and those depictions can fan the flames of hateful speech and intolerance Sarkisian three part video series. Also highlights games that feature more inclusive characters and storylines the frame contributor, Steven Cuevas. Recently spokesman eater Sarkisian and has our story in the first episode of the three part queer tropes in gaming series directed by any Sarkisian host. Caroline Pettit explains. Its core objective. We need more games in which clear characters and clear idea. Entities simply exist, whether the player chooses to access that content or not sound simple. But Sarkisian points out that such transformations never came so easy in Hollywood. A big influence on game producers games. I still struggle with how to tell narrative, and so they pull out these tropes, which are not necessarily bad things. Right. Too often, though, they are used to reinforce harmful stereotypes, let's hear a clip from early on in the first episode. Caroline Pettit is talking about a ninety zero arcade game called crimefighters two players face clear coated enemies in leather with exaggeratedly effeminate walking animations who literally dry hump the player as an attack. But they don't stop there. These guys will try anything if there's a lamppost handy. Hell they'll hump that too. Nana's? It makes me laugh every time. I mean when you first saw video games like that. What was your response? It was my first time, and I was like. We are providing a reframing for a lot of people who grew up on these games. So games that you had played when you were younger that you didn't ever notice that we're folks are demonized in these various ways that now all of a sudden like oh my God. I played hours of this game and had no idea until I got older or were given the tools to be able to deconstruct them. It's a digital realm..
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"I'm John horn. Most hit podcast fall into neat categories like politics, true crime history or pop culture, anthem Oculus is pretty much in a category all its own. You don't even have to pledge just hear me like knee tap me on Twitter crush me on Grindr mortified me on my space just help to go viral. One dollar fifty cents pledged what I'm talking about created by and starring actor playwright and Tony award winner. John Cameron Mitchell anthem is a fictional hunt. Cast told from the perspective of a livestream with a talking brain tumor and one more thing it's a musical a huge production with a cast of nearly forty actors anthem features Glenn Close Patti LuPone Marian coachie art and many others. It's one of the first high profile podcasts on the new platform. Luminary? I reached John Cameron Mitchell yesterday in New York City. Hello, hi. This is John horn. Is this John Cameron is how are you? I'm well, you sound like you're sitting across curious if he listened to many radio dramas growing up I did in the seventies. There was still the fire sign theater, which was our version of Monty python. Let's say they were the hippie pranksters. They had. Crazy albums that had vague stories in free associative madness. And also if you remember the beginning of HBO, everyone had HBO they just had a scrambler on the image. But you could hear anything. So we would listen to be oh. In the early years. And if it was like, a comedian, George Carlin, we would just tape it on our cassettes and who needed to see him, right? He was Larry issue when you were first imagining anthem, did you picture it as what it is as a musical podcast or you think it would be a traditional stage show. Did you have any idea of what it would be inform? The character has a brain tumor and his out of insurance in a town in a state that hasn't expanded Medicaid. So he goes online to raise money to get his tumor out on a telephone app that we invent and there's an opportunity for him to tell his life story, which is in many is very similar to mine, and I was like I wanted to be a TV series. But it was way too weird. Everybody turned it down in Hollywood. Respectfully got a lot of resting pitch face. And I'm so much happier. That we made it this way because we were able to control it be little bit crazy, not worry about, you know, fitting into some pre existing marketing you have a song that you saying called hunky and it sung from the perspective of an anthropomorphized tumor..
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"Frame I'm John horn. We'll pick up my conversation with screenwriter and playwright Aaron Sorkin about his stage version of tequila Mockingbird back in the spring of last year. Harper Lee's state headed by lawyer Tanya Carter sued the producer, Scott Rudin saying that Sorkin adaptation deviated too much from the novel. There were a couple of minor changes that the west wing creator agreed to but Sorkin wouldn't budge when it came to how he'd written novels to main black characters. Tom Brady Anderson falsely accused of raping a white woman and the finches housekeeper. Pernia sorkin. I talked about the concerns the estate had with his version of Atticus. Who initially swore drank whiskey and owned a gun in the book in the movie, Atticus, carved out of marble. He's the man with all the answers in the play. I wanted him to be wrestling with questions, and I wanted him to be more human and things like Atticus having sitting on the porch having a glass of whisky by himself after he's lost. The case seem very human to me the gun in the closet is the end of the first act when we all know the moment when he finds out that Tom Robinson has been moved to the local jail a night early. And that the clan the bad guys have been tipped off. So Advocacy's to go to jail and save Tom from being lynched. I had a moment where he grabs a shotgun from the closet. Hesitates looks at Purnea says you'd better take that with you at advocates puts it back and the note was Atticus would never have a gun in the house. Again, it first of all that note. I didn't understand because in the book and in the movie, he's dead. I shot shoots the rabid dog from two hundred yards. So it's not like Atticus gun objector. Notes like that. I reluctantly agreed to because I could live with them and the play wouldn't have happened unless I did I remember talking to you while you're working on the adaptation more than a year ago. And you're the midst of releasing the movie molly's game and the time that you were giving Tom Robinson Copernican more of a voice in the story, especially when it comes to the issue of racial injustice. I remember saying to you, what is the state of Harper Lee think about that? And you said they've been great to work with. We've got a pretty good deal and a couple of weeks later the. To play. So you're timing was a little bit. Your optimism was maybe a little bit falsely placed, but it does sound like you were able to resolve the dispute how would you characterize what the takeaway was for you as a playwright through that dispute ended it leave you with the play that you were a hundred percent happy with did you feel like you had to compromise in terms of what the estate wanted and what you wanted in the story. No the that lawsuit. Dad, no effect on the play. And neither I nor Scott, nor director share would have gone forward with the play. If now going back to the beginning, the novel has to only to a significant African American characters Tom Robinson, the defendant cow Purnea the mate. And this is a story about racial friction in the Jim crow south. Neither of the two African American characters really have much to say on the subject in the novels really most concerned with whether scout is going to wear address or overalls to school. Tom Robinson gets to plead for his life. And neither of them have agency. And the me that got scared by the lack of quality of my own. I draft one of the things I've Oude was I'm not going to pretend that I'm writing this nine hundred sixty and I'm not going to try to do a Harper Lee impersonation, neither of those two things will get very far. So I thought that in in nineteen sixty using African American characters only atmosphere is the kind of thing that would probably go largely unnoticed. But today, it's it's not only wrong, but it's a missed opportunity. You want to hear from those characters my favorite scene in the book, and my favorite scene in the movie. It's a lot of people's favorite scene in the book is the end of the trial Atticus. Packing up his briefcase. Everyone has left courtroom everyone except the people in what was called the colored section the balcony up where all the African American citizens of may come are standing.
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"I'm John horn two thousand nineteen already is shaping up to be a breakout year for Romney Yussef, the actor and comedian not only has an HBO standup special on the way, but he also has a new show called Rami Yussef created and stars in the loosely semi-autobiographical series about a Muslim American millennial who's named Rami. He lives in New Jersey with his sister and AGIP shin and Palestinian immigrant. Parents the show minds some previously unexplored territory for a TV series. Yes. We see Romney struggling with work and relationships, but we also see him grapple with what it means to be a good Muslim and since much of the series grad of Yussef own stand up routine. It's also very funny when you came by the frame studios this week. I asked him how he first became interested in acting and comedy really early on. I started making things when I was like in middle school. I got a camera. I went to a high school that had an amazing TV program. And I just. Loved editing shooting and writing and then little by little I was like, you know, I'd give a friend a script and shoot him. And it'd be like do it like this. And then before I knew it I was kind of acting in and then I moved to LA to act, but I really like doing stage work and very quickly was doing stand up. And and that kind of the stand up has become the foundation for everything that I'm creating and doing when you first started doing stand up was it something close to what you do now. Or was it a search to figure out what your comic identity would be and how close that would be to your real self? Yeah. If I hear it all the time of like, you know, your first couple years doing stand up, you're doing an impression of what you think a stand up comedian is because you have your influences, you have what you're into like us want the crowd to be happy at first, and then slowly it just became more personal. I think once I realized, you know, my standup should just be very personal and should almost be a place for me to work out. What I'm thinking about work on my problems work out those things that being? The approach most comfortable with which is not for everybody. Some people are like straight up joke writers was it most comfortable because it felt good doing it. Because the audience was reacting to it. I mean, it's easy to say. It's Fenick, but it also has to work. Yeah. How did you know? It was the right choice. I guess it was the right choice for me. Because I think the things that I was making personal were things people wanted to hear about. So I think that, you know, the background that come from my faith, my culture, all of those things seeing the personal side of those things is something that I don't think a lot of people know anything about. And so I would just kind of like to me. It's like a, you know, I'm talking about you know, I was fasting during Ramadan doing standup. And I start talking about it. And I'm like, yeah. You know, I believe in God. And you just feel the room go what like the 'cause, you know, most comedians punchline is like, you know. Yeah. Then we go to church right church is like a joke. You know? And so I would be like, oh, wait, that's not my reality and very quickly. I realized just talking about my reality made the crowd kind of turn their head like, oh, that's what's real to you. And so that became clear to me that, you know, all I really had to do is just talk about that stuff. I wanna play you something it's from two thousand seventeen it's a really good moment in your professional career. You do a gig with Stephen Colbert. My name is Rami Yussef, and I'm Muslim like, yeah..
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"Amy. I'm John horn on today's show the allegations against singer songwriter, Ryan Adams, tell the broader story about sexual harassment in the music industry. Then the Colombian film birds of passage takes a look at the seeds of the international drug trade through the eyes of the indigenous why you people has been told from the perspective of what happened later. You know, the studies got the police go out of the now closer for the beginning was actually even more interesting story and keep it down the sound editors from a quiet place. My here you all that coming up on the frame. From ABC news. I'm Nick Roman with the stories we're covering at seven hundred one the White House says tomorrow when Donald Trump signs of compromise budget Bill to keep the federal government open. He will also declare a national emergency free up money for border security. Trump has floated the move as an option if he did not get enough funding from congress to pay for his border wall. It's not clear. What powers he will site to make that declaration inland. Empire. Democratic congressman Pete Aguilar was on the seventeen member bipartisan team that hammered out the compromise Bill. He told KPCC's take two that the president is setting himself up for a legal fight with Democrats. He'll be taking money from other priorities like national security and our indefens- in protecting our veterans. That's not something we should be doing. And so we plan on pushing back and challenging every step of the way up to win including going to the court. House. Speaker Nancy Pelosi says democr-. Kratz are weighing their options. In a joint statement with Senate, minority leader Chuck Schumer. She says declaring a national emergency to get border wall. Money is a gross abuse of power more on Trump's national emergency declaration tomorrow and KPCC during morning edition. It's seven two. Serene. Walter from Huntington beach this month was sharing our love for you are.
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"I'm your host John horn, very few of us ever get the chance to be in the room with an artist as he or she creates but for record producer and songwriter. Mark Ronson that's his daily job. Come on. Stay lamb. Bronson was a producer and songwriter on lady Gaga 2016 album, JoAnne. And he's a songwriter on shallow the Balaji things. But Bradley Cooper in the movie a star is born shallow has four Grammy nominations, including record of the year and song of the year when Ronson visited the frame studio. I asked him when he and Gaga I started to work together on a star is born we've been probably working on JoAnne for like. A month. And suddenly there was just like star is born talk, and it just kind of like took over everything kind of in a way that is like a like not oh brother, but just a bit. Like, I didn't know when this humanity. What it is like I've been brought in by Interscope records to make JoAnne. And she was offended that point. So I I'll take a week out of this thing to work on star is born whatever it is. And. Do you ever watch the Larry Sanders show is that okay? Larry starts hanging out with Kevin Neal and all the time and hang sites becoming man. He's like Kevin Neal. And Kevin that's like Bradley Cooper valley. Kubilay? That's all I heard. About about a week. And then you finally need Bradley Couvin comes in. And he's just light glows this like baked or and you're just totally like, okay. You get it. So yes. So we started working on stuff, and she just came in one day to the studio, and she's like all right to have this idea for chorus. And she has that thing where everyone puts the headphones on and it's kinda nice 'cause it's like a richer Listrik thing that you put to have owns on because she's singing you hear every nuance of her voice. Like that closes almost like it's inside your head is quite inspiring. So he go, and she's got this idea for this course. And I think she started off with it. You know, I'm off the deep end. There was a couple. Of course, she was like, I think it's around here. You know, she's like hammering at the piano. The. Sometimes.
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"John horn on today's show, we talk with film critic, Amy Nicholson about how the festival might be changing this. Here's a lot of new faces. It's a lot of people just coming out of nowhere. I think they're trying to go back to their roots and early nineties discovery festival. That's exciting. Then Ursel McFarland the director of a new documentary about Harvey Weinstein that's premiering at Sundance. I think the voices of some of the accusers of slightly got lost. And I'm I want to watch the film and go. All right. Okay. Do you believe them all that? After this short break. From ABC news. I'm Nick Roman with the stories we're covering at seven hundred one it's been a big week for Los Angeles. Eric Garcetti, I e helped craft the deal to end L first teacher strike in thirty years, and he gave a high profile speech before the nation's mayors in Washington, DC key PCC's, Mary Plummer looks at Garcetti's political future. I said he told reporters in DC this week to stay tuned regarding his presidential plans, the mayor is widely known to be weighing presidential bid. But his spokesman says there are no updates on. Any announcement? Now, California Senator Kamla Harris and others have jumped into the race. The pressure is mounting on Garcetti to make a move. Just how fast does this need to happen. Here's Bill Whelan a research fellow at the Hoover Institution, which your say, the sooner the better for a couple of reasons. One Democrats are going to start debating June. That's right, this June presidential debates will again also says with Harris already fun. Fundraising Garcetti needs to act fast to capitalize on California fundraising dollars covering politics. I'm Mary Plummer. Got a headline partial federal government shutdown now officially over this hour. Donald Trump signed the measure that reopens the government temporarily it's seven to. Hi, this is Larry mantle tickets are now on sale for one of our most popular events of the year. The seventeenth annual.
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"Welcome back to the frame. I'm John horn, the museum of contemporary art, currently has an eclectic group show that features the work of the influential painter and film critic, Manny, Farber and other modern artists who represent his aesthetic Mark hastily reports on both sides of the artist and critic and how they intersected Manny farmer didn't like many movies, but his reviews field a love for all film, including movies. Most credits avoided his paintings are sprawling tabletop works. Combining collage and still lifes moles worth curated one day at a time at Boca. I think for Manny the way he looked at films the way he painted his paintings the way he wrote his essays for him more all of a piece they were all a struggle, and they all aquatic required, a very close attention to detail the detail in his work is personal going on auto biographical. He paints a great deal of the quotidian the daily life of. Farber and his wife Patricia like floral arrangements fruit and produce from the family garden, snapshots, personal notes and dishes prepared food. He often sets his works at odd angles or has you covered directly over a table filled with this stuff of everyday life. Looking at one of his big paintings at mocha and oil from nineteen Eighty-four. I can only begin to list all the mundane objects in it half pint of blueberries a plate of shellfish some crackers. Terrain full of who knows what a loaf of fresh baked bread a candle and candlestick. This is the same kind of detail fiber. Most admires in film, hadn't done.
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"I'm John horn. Thanks for joining us. Now, let's get back to my conversation with Mimi leader, the director of the Ruth Bader Ginsburg bio-pic on the basis of sex in the early nineteen eighties. Just as her career was starting to take off leader was a script supervisor for the TV show hillstreet blues. The show's creators, Stephen Bochco would eventually promote her to direct an episode, but when producer David milch took over hillstreet blues leader says her hopes were dashed, I was there one day picking up jacket for my mother just randomly in the parking lot. A producer came downstairs and said Mimi, David milch wants to talk to you. And they call me into his office. I have my little hillstreet blues jacket with me. And I say what's up guys and David says to me. Mimi were releasing you from your contract, and I said on what basis and they said on the basis that you're not qualified to direct. It was a shocking moment for me. I mean, I all of a sudden turned into the girl. I am tears shot out of my eyes. I basically said shame on you. I went home I cried and cut to twenty five years later. Michael man calls me, and I had been directing films and lots of television, and he called me, and I had done crime story for him years ago. And he called me. And he said Mimi, I want you to come direct the finale of luck with Dustin Hoffman, and Dennis Farina, and all these brilliant actors, and I said, yes, and the writer was the creator was David milch. And all of a sudden I said, yes, he's will anti office. Let's talk. So I go into the office. And I I kind of turned into this inside of me turned into the person that was fired all those years ago and the effective it was still their fresh. And I said to Michael, you know, I just want to let you know that you know, I haven't talked to David in twenty five years, and he still don't worry I told him. What have you said? Don't worry. You know, I went to go have breakfast with David. And that's when I really turned into this young girl. And I walked into the rest, and you know, I almost didn't do it. I was I was like I don't wanna go through this. Why do I have to go through this again? And but I decided and my husband was like, what are you? Nuts are crazy. Just go do it. So I went, and I walk in the door and David says don't say anything, and he gave me a big hug like what the hell's going on? And so we sat down and. Oh, hello. How are you? But basically he said to me. I wanna make amends to for what I did to you twenty-five years ago. I'm sorry. Without you're bringing it up. I didn't bring it up. He he brought it up immediately. And he made amends to me. And we sat there and talked for two hours. And I do have an added thing tell you about that. But I don't think I can say it on radio. So you're gonna fire him on the basis of qualified now. But he was extraordinary to work with I've one last question about the film itself. Does this story about Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and it's the story about marriage. But it's also about the story of her as a mom to a daughter. And that is a big part of the film. Why was that so important? Well, I would say that thematically. It was extremely important to the movie because her daughter represents culture that had changed and she only had to look inside her home to see that change happening. And that is the argument she used in her in her in her case for it's fee Commissioner that the culture is already changed. It's the laws that had to catch up to the culture. And so I found this relationship to be a very true one. And I have a daughter, and I made this film for her. And I mean, many many women, but I made it for my daughter, and I made it for my mother, maybe great to see you. Thank you for having me. Mimi leader.
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"John horn. Thanks for listening. We'll see you tomorrow. These are campaign contributions and hush money that very well could have swung the two thousand sixteen election. They may be considered the most significant campaign contributions in the history of the United States done days before an election at a time when the president was uniquely. I'm michael. That's coming up on the deal from the New York Times. The daily begins in five minutes. But first from ABC news. I'm Nick Roman with the stories we're covering at seven thirty the south LA man, charged in last summer's death of a trader Joe's assisted manager killed by police bullet during a shootout in Silverlake repeatedly told anelle a judge this afternoon that he wanted to plead insanity. Superior Court Judge Teresa Sullivan ultimately entered a not guilty plea on behalf of twenty eight year old gene Atkins. He's representing himself. Atkins is facing more than just the murder charge. He's also accused of trying to kill his grandmother and his seventeen year old girlfriend Amy's charged with kidnapping for keeping customers inside. The trader Joe's store Atkins told the judge he had no criminal record. But an extensive mental health record, which is why he wanted to enter a not guilty plea by reason of insanity. L unified school district officials are postponing plans to paint over a mural at the Robert F Kennedy learning center in Korea town artist bows, Stanton's mural is supposed to honor the learning centers pass history as the site of the old coconut grove nightclub at the Ambassador Hotel, but local activists say part of the mural resembles imperial Japan's rising sun flag. That's a painful reminder of the brutal Japanese occupation of Korea during World War, Two KPCC's, Emily Elena. Doug, Dale has more on today's decision then mural by artist both Stanton depicts actress Ava Gardner, surrounded by orange and blue lines that some Korean community members say are similar to the rays of the rising sun L A USD responded and said they would paint over the mural during the winter break, but many in the art world quickly criticized the decision as censorship prominent artist Shepard ferry is protesting the decision by threatening the removal of his mirror. At the school and I- conic picture of Bobby Kennedy, very spoke to air talks Larry mantle, I think that it's important for artists to stand together on this because all art creates a conversation creates emotion, and sometimes those emotions and conversations are uncomfortable. But local activists chang-young, Jake, John Cecil still push to remove the mural and hope it will start dialogue about Korean war history. It's not about just feelings of the survivors or victims. It's more about learning lessons for the entire community. In a statement L A USD spokesperson Eugene anandas says the district will meet with stakeholders after winter break, Emily Elena ductile more now on LA unified school district is in its first week of winter break, there's still no resolution to the twenty month contract dispute between the district and the teacher's union United teachers, Los Angeles this week is state appointed fact finder is expected to hand in recommendations for resolving the. Dispute on the president of the teacher's union says a strike will happen if there's not a new contract by January. Here's KPCC education reporter, Kyle Stokes. I think that the threat from from the UT LA president is not an empty one. I've threat might be a little bit of a two loaded term. It depends on what happens with this fact finding report if the fact finding report Spurs the two sides back to the negotiating table. But I think after the break is over you know, there's really nothing to stop the teachers from going on strike. There are about thirty thousand UT LA members, not just teachers but counselors, nurses, and librarians CBS today announced that former network chief les Moonves says is not eligible to receive his one hundred twenty million dollars severance package me CBS board of directors made the announcement after a five-month investigation into sexual misconduct allegations against Munoz KPCC's, John horn, hosted frame says CBS denied Vaz's the money not. For the reason, you might think he didn't lose his job so much because of all of the reports of sexual assaults. He lost his job because he'd lied about it and tried to delete evidence to investigators about what he'd done he asked people to delete text messages. He allegedly offered up one of his kids, ipads, as evidence of his own electronic device. So they couldn't find emails and tax KPCC. John horn hosted the frame les Moonves says was one of TV's most influential figures before CBS you led Warner Brothers TV developed full house ER friends. The dodgers have added a new voice. Fifty two year old veteran baseball broadcaster. Tim never at seven years with the pirates last three with the Boston Red Sox. He'll give Charlie Steiner some days off on the radio side, and he'll.
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"At the frame i'm john horn thanks for listening we'll be back here tomorrow thank you from the regime to you is going to be weapons i did not see coming i did not think that the world is going to allow another chemical to happen i'm michael barbaro that's coming up on the daily from the new york times from abc news i'm nick roman with the stories we're covering at seven thirty the department of veterans affairs has announced that some homeless veterans who sleep in their cars will be allowed to park overnight at the west los angeles va campus we'll be a security guard and restaurants kp excuse me rest rooms kpcc veterans and military reporter libby dank ben says the nonprofit groups safe parking l a will run the overnight parking program she says there are rules for the vets no weapons drugs or alcohol are allowed and say parking lay reserves the right to affect anyone who doesn't follow the rules they run people's names through a sex offender database but there's not a full criminal background check in the vets who stay at the parking lot will also be encouraged to connect with services on the va campus that can help them find permanent housing or now on housing the lack of it advocates for more affordable housing in california say more rent control would bring down housing costs but the states cost a hawkins loss stopped cities from capping rant on buildings that were constructed since nineteen ninetyfive now those housing advocates say they have turned in enough signatures to get a measure on the ballot two and limits on rent control it will be up to the secretary of state to decide if they really do have enough signatures developers and builders say more rent control will squelch.
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"To the frame i'm john horn thanks for joining us we start today's show with a new docu series that attempts to retell a complicated true story that outside of oregon is not terribly well known we basically got introduced to the story through an archivist who said that he had over three hundred hours of never before seeing footage on the story and told us that it involved a colt and mass poisonings and assassination at times of state officials and we went surely he doesn't have that right and we began re reading and researching and surely enough everything he had kind of said was true chapman waco directed the new netflix docu series wild wild country with his brother mclean those three hundred hours of local tv footage show grainy images of a vast rocky oregon landscape where followers of bogwang tree rajini all clad in red and maroon colored clothes built a compound in the early nineteen eighties they clashed with neighbors and the tiny nearby town of antelope and they got themselves into legal trouble but that didn't always mean jail time for some of the bigger alleged crimes i spoke with the way brothers when the series premiered at the sundance film festival a few months ago and what follows is our conversation intercut with clips from the six part docu series basically the movement had started in the seventies and he had an ashram in poona india and bogwang was it was an indian guru and he was really well liked by westerners because he was probably one of the first gurus to say you can have wealth you can be rich you can have sex and you can still be lightened he wasn't a guru that said you need to dispose of all that to become enlightenment he is his message was really one of western capitalism and wealth and making money they ate vegetarian food and they wanted to farm their own land and have a self sustaining community and a lot of sex and don't be ashamed of your wealth he was known as the.
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"Entire show to john horns delightful conversation with filmmaker guillermo del toro del toro has always had an obsession with monsters so it's no surprise that his latest film put a monster in another unusual role a romantic lead the sheep of water star sally hawkins as a mute janitor named elisa who develops an insatiable connection with a strange guild semi amphibious creature from the amazon the creature played by deb jones is being held in a research lab where she works the film also stars octavia spencer as allies as fellow janitor richard jinx ganz as it lies as neighbor a struggling and closeted illustrator and michael shannon as a particularly sadistic government agent the movie debuted in september at the telluride film festival john horne caught up with del toro after the premiere of the film in the quietest place he could find at the telluride hotel i think we should welcome ceremony bilteral to the frame but guglielmo tell us where we are with this is not a place you've done a lot of interviews were jim never growth have you ever been of this festival before yeah twice with a they said how often have you been here to make a good one in here with devils bhagwan i'm bands and now with this i'm going to ask you about something you talked about when you're introducing the film last night and that was as a child you saw creature from the black lagoons and rather than being terrified of the creature you had this romantic vision of what the creature might do what will remain unclear if you think in a strange way creature is an offshoot of king kong on guingona's mobster the beautyandthebeast on on on on and the resignation with guerrillas in the 19th century blah blah blah but what what i love the about it i was six years old and i was watching on tv and three things awakened in me one that i shall not disclose that come along wages i thought it was the most beautiful image i've ever seen i had sort of the stand standout syndrome moment in which i was overwhelmed with beauty and then the third one i failed i hope they and together and they didn't and what i.