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It's one worth the corner. That's casper dot com. Backslash the corner promo code T H E C O R N, E R, terms and conditions apply. What up everybody another week another episode of the corner pied cast by now, you know, as Dan's be here with the old man on trays HALE in the Bill didn't feel like this week flu by Dray? You're usually busy. I can't imagine this week to be any different. But what did you do for Halloween with you, and especially the little one? I don't care what you just up as what was she for Holloway. She wasn't shit. She was sick. That's what she was for Halloween. So sick days. So yet, unfortunately, my little little one is a all congested. So he's going to take her out. So we just took it to weigh a pumpkin patch and a little carnival thing this weekend. And she I don't know, man. My daughter's to let's see two years one month. Now, speaking full sentences was kinda weird. Well, you're kind of weird. So I expect different. But a, you know, she's got a personality. She knows what he wants to what she doesn't want when I took her. She wanted to. I was worried because nothing really excites her like she does shit, and it never really excites her list. She really wants to do like watcher. I pedal fucking day. But a she was getting all rise if she we get pissed off when she couldn't get on the ride anymore. I guess kids understand the concept of like, I have no more tickets to ride. She didn't care. She would freak out. Like people were just like all right? She can ride it again. 'cause my dad was having a fit like she did not want to take. No for an answer. So yes that my mother's house right now for Halloween, I'm watching nightmare now St. watching horror movies all day when she gets home. So probably sitting here watching movies with me. So she was going to be dressed up like Minnie mouse or a pumpkin again, my wife likes to dress up as a pumpkin. But yeah, no costumes this year. Don't scar that poor child and have her watch horror movies. Like, you did growing up. Oh, come on. That's all I do you watch it horror movies. He says four which grandma you just down now. Man told you I two movies that I ever remember seeing as like a four year old. I wanna say was Scarface and jaws three d those are the I saw I don't remember like no cartoons. I saw fucked. My head up. Yeah. Your wallet? I couldn't even I wanted to for a second get into that Netflix show the haunting on house hill or he'll house also man the haunting the house on haunted hill is an amazing to watch that. No. Because I should wouldn't let me sleep like I wouldn't be able to go to sleep at all. And I ready get tiny amounts of sleep as it is. Now, I'm still scared of the dark dreary. I go gotta get a Cup of water middle nine turning on every light in the crib? I can't do it man. You got to like the house on a hill. So though because not only is it a really good series on Netflix like horror movies have a problem. I start watching American horror story after like season one because they don't really know how to continue the narrative of being scared or suspense, the house on a hill is don't plus. It has hidden goes in the show. So as you're watching it, if you watch it a second time where you watch certain scenes the second time, you'll notice it like goes. Are hiding throughout the house should go. It's like where's WALDO with like goes? Yes, he and I'm not trying to do that shit. I can't even sleep with the the closet doors open because I don't like the hangers and close like I feel like someone's watching me. And then we got mirrors on our Causey shits, all bad all bad already. So I can't mess with the scariest and most I'll go watch. How we that's not even scary like, yeah. Just went the Halloween last week. See I watched that. That's just a guy who very slowly I can do that. They can't do any paranormal shit by no suspense guessing. The worst anything that seems like it could be real. I can't do. See I'll like war movie buff like hereditary made. Like, I watch Asian hor-. I watch foreign hor like I watched it all play whore. Video games all have the nerve or someone who says anymore that game outlast. Much. That's a little bit much. But on the note of real quick. And I know like people like sports, y'all got rid did redemption to and I had to finish spider, man. Like last week like I plowed through it. So Waco like dumb early in the morning, finish it. And I just started read read every two this is like the most amazing game ever. Oh my God. See I feel like it's going to take over my life like any external. I don't wanna put all that memory on my PlayStation, unless I played all the way through and then delete it. But even then reminds me of what I've seen like other people played in gameplay reminded me a win or to read time came out for sixty four where you can just do random shit to kill time. Get lost in the game. Like when when you got the horse or Trina time, and you just randomly just go and Gallup around and look at it, and you just look up, and it's four hours let that progress in the game. You just been looking. Around. I feel like this is how it is. Like, you ran that. We look around look at the landscape for ground the horse you on the edge of the mountain. I saw somebody get hit by a deer and thrown off a mountain. Do the most random shit in this game. If you just walk like, if you walk into a town, and you can just listen and pe- shit just happens all around, and it's not like Kagan mations where like the same things said of the same things happen. Like things happen like randomly do. Just go flying out a window for duly beating his chick or guy, you overhear people talk about Robin Bank. And then you go play dominos or you can go hunt. Where like I've already been sidetrack. I've only been through three missions. I'm just riding horses and beaten up people's like. It's just it's so immersive, and they say the games like sixty hours, and I've got like a bunch of other games to play. And. Yeah, this thing is about take over my life. So once I buckle that I just finished by I've gotten back into 'em OB the show just because the Red Sox win the World Series. Fucked me all up so I had to go back in plays. My inky make some more really outrageous trades get many Machado and beat up on the Red Sox. So I'm in the middle of a new franchise in that. But I'm gonna come back around get read their Dempsey and probably ruin my entire member. So I'll be playing that soon. Let's not into the show the shit. We actually have scheduled to talk about the first thing up that we're supposed to talk about first foremost foot kind Konya fuck rides him. I can't I can't do it anymore right policies every week. It's an apology. And then every Friday he sees Trump on TV or vita by Trump. And he's mega man again. I I can't do it. I'm not going to be stupid. But so many people online are being stupid like, oh, no give him another chance out people can change you recognize that he was getting played and were using him. I swear to God who said this like eight episodes ago at the least everyone can see it. How could he not see that? He was being played. I don't care. Well, I'll tell you that. I don't care like I saw the apology, and I didn't anything about it. Because I don't care nothing even he's just he's stupid. So. Yeah. Like now, he feels like so many people who have like finally foolish. Foolish old trae dependent op-ed about that. You're gonna give him some fire, but I did that like a year ago like I don't have time for this shit anymore. So like, I finally got the pussy episode on Joe Biden, Stephen Victor absorb the job own podcast. Hours long get mad long, but push you're talking about his differences kind. Yeah. And it's just like I'm listening, and I'm just like, I just I can't man. Like a certain point. Like if I like if you lately if it was you in every week, you don't talk about like abolish thirteenth amendment, and Brexit and Republicans were black. I in a bunch of dumb shit, which while the Republicans were black versus true. But you gotta understand why party switch. He's never read a book. Clearly, I I just don't have time for to stupidity. I just I don't it's not can't do it. I can't between him and Trump like I just can't do it because otherwise it'll just ruin your life. The only thing you think about instead, I rather watch wrestling play video games watch the NBA season horror horror movies who are moving is up attention like community stuff. But I just can't doled so much time. Can just makes me depressed. Yeah. Let's I. I can't nor Connie I'm at that point again. It's like, okay. So some dumb shit. Let me go back to ignore and cognac that the Trump stuff I can't ignore because that's kind of part of my work in which he says dumb shit every now teen Lee more. So than before he says dump shit this morning that that just had me. Just forgot what the fuck it is. Oh, trying to get rid of like if you're born here no longer citizen. If your parents weren't citizens like. Some shit does not even conscious to correct. But he can't abolish that rule way. He just makes it up, but I feel like. Con yea how dumb do you have to be to follow behind someone that don't becomes my question. Like, he he's Drake king, Connie a everything else aside. Fuck what he said came. He right the ship. Can you go back to being just a created as he said, which is what you said from the get-go? He's not smart. He's not he's creed. Can you go back to just being created make you know, the sequel to college dropout series and everything's forget? No, man. No, no. I mean, nothing he's done so much damage, but that part of his life like college dropout air is gone. Like NAS can't make Matic again. Jay Z, Cam, make reasonable doubt kind. You can't make college dropout again. It's such a so far in his rear view mirror. He probably doesn't even remember it lets like in who he is just who he is. And I wanna make a point here that Donald Trump's not dumb. He's not stupid. He says stupid shit these stupid. He just has to ship. But he's got you. I mean this like I said all. Though, it's I'm not worried about Trump as much. I'm worried about the people that follow Trump, and we've seen the guy mailing packages the bombs. Yes, we've seen the guy, you know, people who run up and shoot up places. I mean, the people who follow Trump the white supremacist that are emboldened by Trump. Those are the people that I worry about. Is fucking idiot. Different not stupid. He's catering to a base that will blindly support him. No matter what he does catering anybody. He just saying. Wow. It's stupid shit. He's just not a smart guy. So, but would that be said the tiny creative Konya when he was just making music may college dropout kind as no longer just making music. He lost his mother, married car dashing. He's got like ugliest easies stills t-shirts, one hundred fifty dollars white like data white T's like like he is so far gone from being that creative. It's like when when I first started writing, I could write like three hour of us like two days because I actually do. So I would sit there and listen to albums on repeat all days turn out review. So I'd have no problem doing that. But now, I don't have time you having a daughter and a family job shit. I can't write or do things the way that I used to Kanye absolutely can't he was the mental capacity to do it, nor does he have the. Time for space. College dropout KYW r I p. Okay. I got a deeper into the sunk in place more stupa shape that I saw go on this week. I know you're busy man got eighteen jobs your daughter's sick. But I know you saw this this young black chick on Dr Phil while in out saying that she is a white woman and that her skin does not make her black. Tell me sauce. Yes. I saw it. Dray is just active is being black and being anti-black the new Coon. Yes. It makes you the most money. I think it was last week. I just talked about and coal to a WW star with a person out of this just turned up, and she don't believe this. She says yet black people just as dangerous now because there is a market for African Americans who are willing to speak out against other African Americans some do believe it. But then you have some people like Jason Whitlock who you watch in. A you see them do things like men he's just really taking advantage of the system because he he's paid. He's cash the Coon like the new thing. We're cash the comb cash for go. But if you you get money, so if you're Ason wind lot, you get will pay more than both of us on. A lot of money. Like Megan Kelly was making what sixty nine million dollars year filiing dumb shit. So to be to be that level to be against African Americans. There's a market for like Candice Owens, like they're going to be more people fall the past that light grow. Whether she truly believes it or not traitor. Her name is treasure. She says he's a Caucasian woman and her name is tragic. This. If people haven't heard this given QuickTime here, we're gonna play some of it. I know a lot of people take issue with my beliefs. I'm why I'm Caucasian because everything about me is different from African American. I have naturally straight hair. My hair isn't nappy doesn't require. We my nose is not giant like African Americans. My lips aren't perfect. They're not too big. And they're not just mall. They're just perfect my ears. I don't have black people ears because they're really giant. Well. Most African Americans speak ghetto when it comes to black people. I think they're all ugly and have nothing in common with them. I'm different from African Americans because I'm white my figures just like Kim Kardashian, and she's a wonderful role model. Act, and I think like a white person instead of a black person. I believe that I'm completely and utterly better than them. Like, we're on two different levels. Like, okay. African Americans are here. I'm here white people and things just way more mature than African Americans black people, they think in a criminal way the foot gatty when I think about African Americans. I feel like asking them what is wrong with them. They're really dangerous. If African American is on the same street as I am across the street to avoid their chaotic thuggish way. He'll take your mail to you'll do. Yeah. I tell my mom. I'll never be like any of those negroes. Mom tries to criticize me about my suppose it race. I tell her she's just ignorant. There's nothing wrong with my views or beliefs because I have freedom of speech and everything I'm saying is true. All right now that we've got through all that. You guys have heard treasure with naturally straight air. She says I. I look at this girl at Inouye. Do I mean to be disrespectful? But she looks like RG three in the face like how she even thinking this. And as a mother, how do you bring your daughter on this show, whether if you need money you want to be the next catch me outside girl. Whatever the shit may be. How'd you bring your dot on the show parade this silliness? A made it people would just want to be on TV, man, like all their trains, racial. This headline evidence said transracial, Dr Phil guest. Yeah. Yeah. This is an might be the trans racist. I'm still uses. Politically, correct right now. I've a problem Drake. She's transracial. This is a real thing. Uncle ruckus was before his time. Of course, he was misunderstood. He was just tracer. It's it's just people wanna do like the most controversial tickets on television. Like if you get up and do good things in your community, and you like feed the homeless, and nobody pays attention to that. If I were to go over some old black was house. It's macaroni and tell her that she should go back to slavery because I'm white dead. Should be all over the news. And I'd probably TV show. You probably would you be is the real life of pity me of the Chapelle skit where the guy was in king K, but clearly black. Chapelle dictate every by the way, Chapelle Simpson's predicted everything in this world. Shh. It's crazy. She's white. Right. I can't believe this like when I saw it. I was like, oh, buddy. But this shit's ELS she blew up. She might be that segment might be more popular than a cash me outside. Go. As far as like as quick as it blew up. I don't get a record deal. You're gonna have to be covering her albums. Do an album reviews are on treasure. She going to be singing. The next. Great white singer treasure. I hope she should be next Taylor swift if cash outside could be the next Cardi B or Nicki Menaj, she'd BMX Taylor SWIFT's. You never know Drake might be in your future. I'm just preparing you make sure you got that background knowledge. Ready to go for. Talking about Cardi B, Nikki barraged, the beef is squashed. Don't care. You don't be about beef beef. If it's not a wax. You didn't listen to podcast, right? We're podcasters. You listen to Nikki Menashe's podcast, Noah, what is the no? I don't know time man, I've time for that shit. You listen three hours. Joe Butterball get tricks, and I'm actually like sometimes interested in Joe yet. Like, I'm not interested in a rapper. Like, I'm not interested in active rapper having cast Queen radio. What is she now going to podcast about? This is my fear. The beef is done. What are we tuning into listen to Nikki Manashe talk about? Late unless you started doing all I wanna know like wait year. You got your ass shots. I wanna know who exactly penned those first out were very good. How much did safari really matter? Like, you got to start telling me shit like that. Because without that. I have no reason to come back. When Dr I honestly don't care out of here. Out of here about the beef on ocare about I don't care. It doesn't move me. Unless until they release the song. I don't care. You move me dre it did it move me. Move me to go. Listen, Arash, see, she dropped a new song J Cole, which she just fucking bodies. So dirty. Listen to that like five times in a row, and then also can fucking my listen to nothing but rhapsody for a tired day day and a half. And I was like these two women are arguably arguing over being the best female rapper in the game. When they're nowhere even near the best female rapper game. No, not doing close rhapsody is doing shit right after I listened for a day and a half a religion to everything several times over few people few women have ever been able to spit like her way since she's one. She might be one of the top five talent wise rappers right now man woman, otherwise doesn't matter this. She's that good, right? Saying this. Along the head of the bed. Wack. Saying for a long time like rhapsody is. He's a talent. Unlike any like, you know, some people say like the female Kendrick Lamar kind of fair to do that to her. But I think a lot of people just saying she's the best female rapper period like before rhapsody. I think at the time my favorite female MC, which I don't like even calling my favorite rapper who happen to be one was, gene. Great say gee, graves Superdome. They're like the Phoenix win with a ninth. Wonder's fucking amazing. Oh, but with rhapsodies accomplish her body of work, and with wisdom, and this joint she just J Cole and everything she's doing like she rarely ever comes up short on verse. She delivers all the time. So yeah, I mean, unfortunately, women hip hop still stuck in this place where it's like pop star sex like. Men and hip hop advanced. And it's it's weird. Like, I don't people will say that hip hop in the worst place now than it was fifteen years ago, but fifteen years ago Kendrick Lamar J Cole. They wanna been anywhere near the top of the charge because that's not true at all. We had nothing taffy fifteen years ago. But every era has bullshit, right? It I'm not saying like this era like this is not the worst era. This is the most successful era. So you like cats like J coaling K Dighton. And, you know, even even, you know, even with MAC Miller when you know Garissa Sola, but even when he was around like those guys wouldn't have had a space in two thousand three right? So another they do it's like now, we're here is so many different styles from MC's like if you like young thug, or if you like colder, if you like Kendrick or whatever you like or if you like Drake or if you like push like, there's an avenue weaken, listen to all of them, and they actually do pretty well. Whereas the women it's Nikki in Cardi which. Was kind of like the same kinda shit is rhapsody ruptures out really selling records like that. You know what I'm saying? But sees she got nominee for a Grammy. And she has the best album by female, probably since Jean grace, Phoenix labels wisdom. I think is better than that. Crowning? P was phenomenal so women rapper still stuck in this weird space where it's like if you ain't sexy enough you waiting selling if you ain't selling sex to a certain degree, or if you nestling pop music like I just watch. I watch like bits and pieces of the BT have wars because I'm a DVR need to clear that shit. Let me fast forward through this. And then I'll watch Carter's performance, and I'm just like. You know, I'm happy that she's where she's at like she's been able to be successful from going to struggle into the poll to love hip. Hop to become a Reverend unhappy that she's made away. But there are better represent her. Oh headstone. So it's cool is cooling Cardi. Yes. She's just a movement. It's fun to see her. It's like put it like this. It's like Tiffany haddish. I like Tiffany haddish what the fact that we treat her like, she's the greatest female comedian of all time or in recent memory is wild to me. I don't find her that funny. But I I like her as a person is that would that's, but that's the thing. That's the same thing. Cardi B. I liked them as people, and I think Tiffany haddish funny. But she's she's having her wave right now. So it's like I have I don't wanna take away from what Cardi B's accomplish just like I'm not taking away from tiff Tiffany haddish is doing, but they're still a weird space where it's like one at a time. Like, we're represented still one at a time. And that's gotta stop man, they need chill out with it. Yeah. I mean, they're just has to be more diversity in women's. And I think we're getting to that place regardless if they sell it, they don't so. But you know, for every Cardi B that breaks. It was nice to see a young may break. You know, what it's like that? So different from a female rapper and got nudged into pop culture for a second. Now, they she's been actually don't song like a lot of music. It just hasn't cracked so right? They don't continue to push it. But it's nice to know. Okay. That type of artist is out there. The rhapsodies is outfit. Just a couple other female artists. I've been here. Just just coming around the way more in on Twitter, and every kill this is actually pretty dope. So it's like women are spitting. It's just that the platform not there yet. I was wondering also killed what what made MRI so successful because she was going back listening. Okay. Some her songs did have a sexual overtone is that why she crossover more so than like her looks ill still the content was kind of sex based. No like busy. I think is different because MRI it was more of an aesthetic like missing wasn't like a great rapper per se. But she was a very very good artist. She was a great producer. She could sing. I mean, she had Joyce it just flat out slap like she. She had joints like she was mad creative. So she acupuncture that space where it was. It was a little bit different. Like, people treat her like she was in in this or whatever. But that's the key. She didn't. Fall into that. She never had to be the one woman knows nobody looked at her in that category. No. She was a very unique town. So she didn't for whatever reason people wouldn't put her in the same space as a little Kim or foxy Brown or Lauryn Hill or any of them. She was in her own box. Like Missy like I never was like he was on MRIs rhymes. But her artistry was always extremely don't like the things that she could accomplish like our music videos, and the fact Jami she could dancer ass off like she was so it's different space. But it's where we are like, Nikki, let me think about Dicky's. Vicky correct. I say this all the time, Nikki can Rhett, but she just sticks to these bullshit, poppy subject matter that just week and she likes substance like the difference we rhapsody in a lot of other women like if you listen to ladles wisdom like she's got concept. She's got themes. He's got an end. She can rhyme like it's ridiculous Nikki kit rat, but she doesn't. About shit about being a pop star in space ship. Space that that's about it. That's that's crazy. But that's so true. She that's her. That's a content. I got a big, but I'm putting it on someone's face. I'm gonna spaceship that that's pretty much the gist of wishy goes right now. All right. That's finally finally make the turn into combat sports. We have 'em may coming up this weekend. UFC two-thirty feels like he crept up on me. I don't know the Bill doesn't seem that big. But the main event was announced for three and a half weeks ago. So I don't know what I was expecting. But the Black Beast versus Dan will call me a will run down some of the the major fights on this card, but first one child to the blood beast today for when being asked McEwen, a what do you eat on fight week and responding if my wife is here eat her as incredible off the cuff remark like this guy is a gem. I it said that he has lose this weekend. Yeah. No. I mean, he's a national treasure. I mean, if you go back to when I was working champions and we win shot with him. And we have the again. Moves. Yeah. And I saw it man because got crazy personality, man. It's like that's what makes superstars that's why he's got this tied off. So. Yeah. More power to their Louis. But yet he's gonna lose this weaker. Yeah. He is. That end DC saying no matter what he is calling it quits in March. And not not even entertaining. The notion of running back with John Jones. Do you believe it? No. You're like Dana white like everyone says they till the money shows up. Yeah. Like, there's a couple of things when we had media day here in Vegas DC. And I had asked him. It was just because he was he talked about his moment with Brock lizard octagon. And I was like, and I asked him I was like, you would you would you consider being on on WB program and to promote the fight. He was like, no, I wouldn't promote the fight. But I haven't addition to do commentary. So that was my story that was my thing and everybody ran with. So I hate asking questions scrums you've always been like an old crotchety man about asking scrum questions. So are his Mitch just feel you shave? You know, that's just what they do people. Just take your question, and they write the story and the only of the credits you they'll just say at a scrums such as such say I'd never asked questions I've been asked by so many people in Europe CPR, why don't I talk at the post by this because. Gonna steal my answer. Tried it. And you're gonna put it on. And we may junkie, and then he said the press conference, no motherfucker, I asked the question. So that's why DC, but DC clearly has a future that he wants in WBZ like he wants to be on commentary. So there's but there's this competitive side of him that if John Jones gets the light heavyweight title, which people expected to do against gusts and DC fights Brock DCB's abroad. To if there is enough money on the table. I would see Deysi fighting again because it's the one that got away. He can't I can't see him live. It's rough way to go though. Like, you you just kinda head kicked in cried. Again, do you want the last image of you being you not out in crying isn't worth trying to is worse, though were ward of being the first person to beat John jokes? That's what it comes down to. Yes. Yes. Because I mean, these a competitor. He's not scared to fight. He's a competitor. So of course, he wants to win that fight. Like, there's no person that right mind this say, well, it's cool. I'm just going to go out on my shield, but of John if the opportunity presents itself, and the money is there, I know these tire like as just like when I was with Floyd. And I could see the Floyd was tired of training the build up to a fight was what was wearing Floyd down. Then you put like two hundred. Million dollars in front of women in easy fight. He wouldn't took it Floyd's different. Doesn't fight because he wants to be competitive Floyd fights for money. This is still has a competitive bone in his body still believes he could be John Jones. So they're actually he's gonna fight again. But right now. Yeah, he's gonna say he's retired. That's that's what he believes. Just we don't believe him. No. And it's only gonna make more money. So it's not like that bad of the stance to take right because you say retired. And they gotta pull you out of retirement. They're just gonna pay more. We're going to go through the two-thirty cargo quaint make predictions, but I do card last weekend. You're seeing Canada's Moncton. Couple fights on their your boy Patchett comments fought notable gonna win all the become no. No never pick it over to get windy like three years, and I'm burning those episodes where was very higher Patrick combs early on in this podcast early earlier. So of so many him quickly and easily to get on the winning track. Michael Johnson took them Artem Lobov's and Michael Johnson one. That's no surprise, right? Artem you are getting cut. Knows long as as long as kind of Gregory is breathing is going to be hard to get rid of. Okay. Seems like cabinet has a pretty good working relationship Abella tower, maybe Artem can compete a little bit better over there is not true. And I thought young dudes over there at that weight just fucking killers. So that's not necessarily easy either. And then maybe vent vulcano Samir, Anthony Smith, very impressive by Anthony. Smith a guy who's taken his lumps every may thirty one and thirteen lot of fights. Lot of losses. Taken out a guy invoking OSA mayor who is just on me loses to DC and now entity Smith, but he has three losses once before the guy is good and to finish it in the third round shows a lot how far can entity Smith go is he a legit content. Is he a legit threat to a guy like John Jones? He's a threat. I mean, I say this a lot 'em as a lot of different boxing boxing. Is you start your career you go on a run? And when you lose it's pretty much over like most guys once you like eagle fifty two zero on some fourth records, and you get your brains knocked in and then it's over different because there's so many different ways to lose. I think I think what we're learning. Now. Is you suck when you're young? Yes. It's made for people in new thirties. Like unless your name is John Jones, you're going to lose max Holloway loss in now. Look at him. So Anthony Smith is a middleweight he struggled let shit look at Robbie Lawler in the run the he had after being debt like he was he took his contract because he bought strikeforce. They will just like well shit. Fuck it. We'll just keep him becomes champion. So then what makes us different guys click at different times. They figure it out. Go on runs. Mark hunt was guy who spill has a relatively pedestrian record. When you look at it. But every now, and then it clicks. And they usually and you just kick some is Anthony with to five become incredibly dangerous. He's found a new wrinkle his game. He's he's always been extremely violent type kind of guys, but he's a little bit more poise. And it seems like as you get older. You learn I might lose. And I think that changes how people fight in your mind, you think like, Bob. Boxers. I talked to so many boxes about this. And I asked him about like I just thought to be injury. And I was like when you fight you everything you lose. He's like no go asking today. They think about losing all the fucking time. They probably lost like eagles. Thing. So you you as you would shore. You learn how to pace yourself. You learn that you just can't blow everybody out. You learn you have to be cerebral. So Anthony Smith is a guy like in a relatively thin division. Just beat the number two contender. Yeah. He should be in a title title picture next year early next year. He if John Jones Gusset him, and John doesn't fight Cormie next or move up to heavyweight he needs to fight Anthony Schmidt. That's fair. The guys are we've been wanting new blood in this division. So he's he's new blood ease worked his way up through the ranks. And you're right. You know what? Emme may is a lot like pitching. And in baseball you come out, and you're a flame thrower, right like ninety seven ninety eight ninety nine and they get you a hot and you get on a run to like three or four years to give Moscow contract. And then that flame starts to lesson in that power goes down, and then suck for maybe a year or two or you just go down for your to Kershaw is doing that right now where you know what? That fastballs Taylor more towards ninety two ninety three David price went through the same ship and lowered. And then you learn you know, what I can't just blow by everyone. Let me learn how to page let me pace myself. We work the coroner's let me do this. And then they pick it right back up. You look at a gun like Justin Verlander who miraculously is amazing. I get aid. Is you go through these these flows in your career, and as the same you come out of box your twenty year old feet on twenty one twenty two twenty three looks like your beatable, then you lose. Three years up lose one win one lose win win one. Now, you come back you look up twenty twenty nine and you right back into title on your damn your and beatable tyrant. Woodley's? Another good case of that. Had a competitive fight in three or four years before. Then every fight was competitive. We'll turn said quite a few compared to fights the one. Boy, we're pretty competitive McCain the first one the second one they both. They both were competitive. It wasn't like he knocked him on his. I mean, he didn't take much punishment will be honest. Heels a chess match, but it was competitive fights. It wasn't like Robbie. It wasn't like. The ROY McDonald fight the fight you head against the natural boring. Killed like those were like, you're you're losing fights or you lost. Well, that's different losing versus competitive. He's. We're headed but hasn't been in danger of losing about that. I mean one fight I can think of the wonderboy fight. And then the knockdown saved them. I'll say hasn't been a danger of losing quite some time. People just hit these streaks where it's just amazing temporal Cormie. John Jones skies made he's done all thirty plus entire careers thirty plus like, it's hard to fathom. But that's the way may is the prime in MMA is the prime and other sports. So we're about to see a guy like Greg hardy and to octagon it start at twenty nine people are looking at him like he's kind of old east just about his pri-. He's losing his he's at the tail end of an NFL prime at the very beginning of an EMMY prime. How incredible? So I mean, that's how imitate works. And plus like people say, you know, you gotta start early. But actually, if you start later, you have less, wear and tear on your body to be low healthy, you're gonna fight more. And it takes a lot of time to learn all the disciplines. That's why always say that the true strider is in the thirties 'cause you can be a specialist. Really good at what you do and specialize in your early twenties McGregor and had that one knockout punch and shoot riding through your twenties. And you're great. But sooner or later, you're going to have to be well rounded in that amount of time. It takes to learn how to become a good enough wrestler to defend yourself against the specialist like Abib at debut maya's takes you until you thirty something of constantly owning your craft in these other areas. So it's crazy, and we see people like John Jones bucked the trend but outside of him. You know, everyone else kinda they they hit that rough patch in the twenties. So we'll see that'd be an interesting fight. Let's go through US. Thirty main card. You don't go to everything else the under cards. Okay. But nothing to write home about Dirk Brunson versus Israel assign. Yeah. Wolf son is getting a big bump up in competition. Israel's going to win. I mean, we see. Good fights out there like brunson's, well rounded, it's a big step up in competition breath. He's in the top ten I believe he was the top five not too long ago. No, no. I mean, it is. But I think they're brunch was gonna come in this fight thinking that he's Derek Brunson. That was like knocking people out for a second. Then he'll forget that Israel to sign is much better striker, hopefully, his team real sommittee says look man, you're a wrestler so put him on his back. But if they don't like he's going to get he's going to get hurt. He's going to get hurt. Because like their Bryce is very similar data science last fight which was against Bryant of ours. And it will be a lot in its Vars fight. So it's a matter of him getting put on his back, and you have to pretty much win a decision. I don't see Brunson knocking him out. So I think Brunson. He wants to prove something throw Hanson, cutting probably go night night at some point, right. Predicting the KO. Okay. It is definitely showcase flight for art assign yet in the guy talks it he has a superstar quality to him. And this is the first in the line of fights where I think it's leading to him being a headliner of of a card soon, and then much you do that. We see guys like Connor it only takes two or three fights. And you and the title picture if you're the right guy. So that's a division. That's kind of moving slowly lately what we have bist being the champion this time last year in a division before then it was a hot potato Wiedeman too. Shit. I don't remember who's a champion us at Rockall rockets. Yeah. And then base being and then GSP and then Whitaker. So it's a division in a year's time. You're gonna house time it seen five six different champions. Which is crazy takes a high second. You could be right up there. Car Roberston versus Jack Marsh -ment. I don't care about the. This on the undercard is a the SARS Eubanks versus Roxanne fairy. Which is actually pretty interesting because thanks was almost in the title fight. Exactly. Now, she ends up fairy, which is which a lot of people like is this respectful, but it's not an easy fight. I don't know. Why people think that she's going to roll over Roxanne like it's nothing. And that's not the case. She might in the house. No, they didn't do that Roxanne was her replacement. Russia host. Yes. But they're on the different size of the bracket. Okay. Yeah. I wasn't sure about that. So that's an appealing fight. I mean, you base has been good Kenji, make wait. That's my question. She's struck like if anybody who watch it on who watches like I watch a single episode of the new season, by the way, the first time I'm gonna go to the finale, so I'll watch championship. Yeah. I'll be there too. But point is is that like that was probably the last season where I watched every episode. And Sarge struggled every time to make weight, and then she had and that's like in a two week turnaround. This you just like four months off and it couldn't make wait for title fight. So I don't know she's making weight, and if she does I don't know what kind of conditions are going to be. So that's the fight. I'm really interested in. I'm not worried about if I just talked about. Yes, she has some up. She can't make weight this time Landover nod is actually the headline on the fight pass, which windows always fun to watch these. It'd be not going to do so some knocking out. So that's that's going to be good fight to watch David branch versus Jared Coney air. Kennedy. Jay is. Yeah. There's only. You know, the whole situation with a jock. Reagan was sued have been Jack rate against branch branch win this fight. Kennedy got pretty good hands. But that's about it branches still solid fighters. So they just wanted and they keep David branch on the card, which is the biggest thing lame fight in New York. Got a boy in New York who are grow up with bash trains at the same gym. Brazilian jujitsu and all that shit. So says he's a great guy. So people in New York definitely gonna come out support him. We have Chris Weimin versus John Currie south. Let's see to me defy the shabby long time ago, right people's yes. People thought this for a while. I think been wins. But man, this is going to be tough Jonker as just a tough guy to get out of there, and you wrap yourself in the press. Oh, if you make state, so it's going to be a competitive fight youth think maybe as competitive as the rock whole fight if not even better because it gives different possibilities. We haven't seen it before Wiedeman needs. This Goslin comes out for some reason wins the title with a win. Here. Wiedeman is automatically the number one contender. Yes. Because he's already beating. Ruckle was a bad style. Manteaux for Chris wide. I said that years ago. Rocco could be pretty much anybody when he's on his game jock. Rei is interesting fight because I don't think Chris wide men's the old Chris wideman and he's like gig. Art almost got him out of there. Rockall obviously did get him out of there any gas. The was kind of just moved up. Wait, maybe wasn't as strong as he needed to be. I'm picking jockey to win this fight. 'cause I know hopefully, these two don't think they're strikers throw hands of dental probably January fucked up. However, if the become if becomes a grappling match and not a wrestling match, if why is not trying to hold Jack Reed down and tries to grapple with them. I think Jack Rick win this fight. I think Jack Rica find a way to win this fight. I don't exactly know how because like if why been wants to hold him down. He's gonna win decision. But I'm gonna go out to limit say jock. 'cause I just I don't think why is the same guy anymore. See I the entries might have caught up to them. But I'm going off of what I saw the Robert Whitaker fight. If you're sprawl is good enough, and you can stuff those take downs jockey looks lost and Winokur dim when the only guy ever do that to Jonker ache. But once chocolate new there's no way of getting this guy on the ground. It was just feasting time for rob Whitaker and you picked them apart. I think Chris wideman obviously his wrestling is top notch. And I think he can Spro Umbro long enough to to make jock rate just uncomfortable. It's only three round fight not a five which which is huge. And I think Chris win to others three just by not being taken down in trading hands. Ivory what you like if that Ribe why becomes out? I don't think he necessarily makes it easy. But he's better in all the other areas of science jock raise being really going to ground roll just probably ass off. I just don't again, I just don't know why been has left and just something just feels off about him to me. And I don't know what it is. Just doesn't seem like the same guy could be totally wrong. But I'm just gonna go out on a limb and pigs Akra, he just feels like old thirty four. It just seems weathered like he's been through it. And like again, the gay guy fight. It's watching that by then, you know, Romero Nina's brings into the next millennium light. There's those fights. It just makes me really concerned with where he's at. So if I was actually defended tied going around, and then like it was, but then you lose fights like that they they do damage to your career likes guys. Just don't really recover the same could be totally could be told wrong, but we'll see coordinate Louis we both incorporate is gonna win. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The only way black piece wins by landing. Really really well placed like I mean, that's it the problem with Lewis as much as I liked him. And it's the same thing that happened with the Krell off was the second one. I said if you turn hands with Jerry Lewis is going to catch because there's really no technique behind. What he throws like he doesn't really set up his strikes, then recordings way too smart for this shit yet like any won't be in a position where if he's winning the fight. He's like, no, let's have fun and throw hands Corby is going to wrestle Russell the hell out of him. He's gonna wear him down. He's not gonna put himself in position where you can get caught. Tired against Danu Cormie rumble Johnson shoulder those pitting. If you're tired against Corby eight he's not going to let you get out of the round. He's not gonna late. He's going to finish. So. There's people that there like it's a lot tougher fight. Yes. A tough fight. I mean, there goes deserves the opportunity like I was one of the first people said that, but he doesn't do enough technically to set up that knockout points because there's no way he's being coordinated by decision. Cormick is staying around for three rounds just run from him and Louis gas in the fourth and fifth. So it's really for yet. Cordray has the technique you need to be a Derek Lewis to me. I saw it from a guy who smaller than him and who wars out and is nowhere near coordinates caliber, ROY Nelson, right in which he said fuck nece, we're not even throwing hands and he can't throw hands with a guy like that. We know ROY Nelson draws Bondi's and note taking big as down wear you out Dirk Lewis had nothing. He barely won that fight like last-second again. So I think dead me it uses a similar tactic it interest wears. Out taps him and short notice. So, you know, the black piece gets an excuse and dares to be great. But it's not set up for him to be successful. No, all right, switchgears, go over to boxing, real quick. Not too much. Daniel jacobs. Got a big win this past weekend to me. He looked solid. But not as great as he's looked before. Because a lot of people are taking away from what they're take. Oh, how good their takeaways that might be me? I I didn't think I thought this was not a showcase fight for Jacobs. Obviously a title fight in good opponent. But I didn't think I hope Jacobs up to that triple g standard, you know, like the top of the top. And he he was in for one this week. I mean, do he he's him there? Tanko have seared Andre Rosas a trainer for many years. And so obviously, they know each other very well. So it makes an interesting fight. This not a fight where you can go pretty much like you have to come up with a different game playing because both guys have seen what you show that hadn't sparring for multiple years. So I'm not surprised how the fight went. I didn't think jiggles knock him out fellas. Gonna be a tough light. It was really close. But I think it speaks a lot to how good their takeaways, and again, these eastern European the FOX can fight like people. Forget. Dude. He's guys for eastern European. They can fight their tangle. Yes. He's got a laws. The ended their checkered we will see him again wouldn't somebody's ass. So it's it's it was a tough fight for Jacobs. I don't look at his anything wrong. I just think it puts them in position for possible Cannella fight. Maybe this type of thing that you want to have happen. Maybe wanna look average because then Camilla take the fight. Yeah. I mean, it seems like it setting up for that. They got the the him and triple g breathe Jacobs is a great fight. In the meantime, and by no means an easy fight. But can no canal is now the one daring to be great. With the Jacobs win. He's really stacking that resume. If you take fight. We shall see. Because it's pretty interesting now with where he's at in his career in his options like he can civil out of people you can fight. But it's like the money's guaranteed. Right. Like, why not will the money's guarantee? But you don't wanna lose either. Like, a, you know, you don't wanna go out there and lose anybody. So losing a big fight like that would do damage to his career. Especially if he wants. I mean, I don't even know how bad he wants another fight which Jeep. But I mean, you wanna win all the bills. So there's Jacobs theories boo-boy injury. There's you know, obviously somewhere along line things, unify David view. I don't know when it's going to happen. It was going to happen. It might have been made for I don't know. But a Jacobs tough out. I think he gets Shaka. I think in triple g got a date. Depends on where he ends up. That's that's the big thing right now. Yeah. Yes. Okay. This man. I know you can't talk much about this. You got to be on the hush hush. I've seen reports internet I will speak for myself and for this podcast. Triple g is going to dissolve like shit is on its own the five yard line and they're getting the touchdown celebration rate Todd Gurley and you're on the two it's damn you're going to be a touchdown. It's okay. So now, the middleweight division, midway home of boxing is going to be dissolved very interesting, and it once again, I think it sets perfectly for Cannella Jeep that. If there's good as what we all think they are to get a couple more wins against high high level competition and run it back again. And we'll see we'll see if this the same favouritism towards a Cannella Alvarez when now it's a little different golden, boy doesn't hold as much power. They're both sides of is under both making big money. Let's see if that same sway that. To me. I thought the second fight was a draw. The first was for triple g let's see if the judge is now call it with a clear clear after we give it some time to breathe, but that'd be one hell of a hell of a hall in for on. You can talk about. And once again, you work there. Everyone knows this shit objectively. Do you think in two years does own is is the number one home for boxing? Stuff. Call me. I mean, it really depends. I know you hope it does get the full story. I hope it does you know, CVC still remain players. So time with FOX still on national television. Just doing their thing. You know, they still chant goes top rank yet. But crawford. Bunny prove they can do ratings on TV. But you know, if zone picks up a few more fighters, I mean, the middleweight division is excellent. I just I think that there's enough room for everybody like HBO Showtime. There was enough room. And so I think everybody can don't HBO listen home of boxing. They were the home of boxing. But then Showtime had may weather, and it changed everything, you know, there's like win all really takes a couple of fighters and those fighters have to win his own. You know, it's like it's Anthony Joshua. And it's Canelo with you know, PBC, it's the guy welterweight division. They everybody and Deontay wilder. And then you look at ESPN is crossing Masilo Machiko. So it it gets interesting because you've got to see these guys win. So it was like Anthony Josh would if I'd say wilder and Joshua ones. And. Yeah, like zone is going to be number one. So it's really based on the fighters in where they going what they do. Then you gotta look at all these young talent to there's a lot of good young fighters with his own. We got the world box super series. We guys like Ryan Martin. And you know, we had a lot of European fighters. Josh Taylor, the Regis griot who had excellent fight this weekend. The landscape is wide open. Man. I don't think there's any. I don't there's any losers right now in boxing separation is HBO pulled out. Yes, it's true. But HBO figures they have original programming other stuff. They can do that works out. I mean, some of the dice what we'll see I'm not mad. If that decision to to a degree like they just want to invest in showed up and dribble and a few other things. So I'm not mad at that. Then we also have spent versus Garcia being so, no. Do you like that move for Mikey there? There you the day of the week. Yeah. Like, right, Mike, Mike. He says he wants, you know, these tired of just being the best like, okay, cool. But I think that he's biting off a little more than you can shoot. He absolutely is like he absolutely is. But how else are you going to be great unless you move like he's in the tough spot. He's not fighting shaneco. He's not fighting Crawford. Patios fighting broder. And he's like, well who the hell's gonna fight? And if you really look up and down if you look at one forty there's really nobody from there. Look at one thirty five. I mean, nobody there. No. I mean, it's much finding the next contender at one four eighty that waiting for pack yowling in hoping that you can entice them after that fight. 'cause you're dating fight where football. You like he's fighting back. Yeah. Pecking fighting fighting Crawford pack of fight Mike Garcia. So you put my spot where it's like, well, I gotta find somebody. So I'll move away classified the baddest man in boxing that people are saying, and it kind of works on a business. I two because Erol is a name to hardcore boxer fans, and like the mainstream just kinda learning who he is and Mike. He's got a pretty strong Mexican base Mexican American base of California. And you do this fight and the winner emerges becomes a star. The way that these guys are going right now without like without spent spiting bud Crawford or he's not funny show porter necks, and he's not playing Thurman who else is gonna fight. No one's fighting Keith urban because their fight, but the, but that's like air needs a big fight. In a big fight is Mikey Mikey needs. A big fight shit. People thought I said a couple of weeks ago people thought dill. Oil is going to wash pack. Yep. And he was too big impact destroyed him star making performance. That's what made pack a superstar. Mike kind of a fight, man. He muses kind of win. I don't even know if it turned him into a superstar. But sitting got nothing else to do you need to fight. Yes. Yes. Nothing to lose at that point. But you're right NO Awin does change it at least puts him. The top of one hundred forty seven hundred forty pounds with the win. And with the flexibility that these other guys don't. So if you win that who says you can't go by book Crawford and take your boat over there. That's one Hove setup. So understand it. It's just rough because I don't think he can win that. But he's he's going to be a small welterweight going against arguably the biggest willfully he's going to be tiny find the guy who can easily make one fifty four one sixty. Yes. So that's why it's tough this wrestling than before we get outta here. Evolution just happened. And yes, we're starting on a positive note dre. Just because, you know, China trying to not dive into the negativity that is Vincent k McMahon right now in some of his decisions, I liked evolution is a pay per view. It's one of the best hot to bottom main roster paper views this year, if not the best I don't think it had a gimmick match. But I don't think it really had a bad match. All no. I will go on elimidate was the best of w pay per view of the year. The only one that can close Royal rumble. Yes. But now see I would say the same, but revisionist history crushes out for me because the the happiness I felt of Osco and should skate winning the rumbles is gone knowing how they just mismanaged and book them afterwards with of course. But in a vacuum like that was the best paper view of the year ever. But evolution. I thoroughly. Enjoy evolution. You like I thought it was a fantastic pay per view match that your contender. I'll say Becky Becky WW Becky versus Charlotte was a match of the year contender. I I say I hate last minute. Standing matches always do because they always check way too much. But that was exceptional those two that should have been the main event should have been. Event, but it wasn't. But everybody knows that stole the show that was in those and then everything else was just great because it's your first all winners, pay per view, and you have matches eulogy you some matches that, you know, Rhonda, rousing, the Kabila caters to certain audience, but then you had wasn't horrible. No. It wasn't hard. You're saying Nicki wrestlers still can rest Russell. Rhonda's feats strength run Ken Russell that. I I do have a problem with Rhonda taking so much offense from Nicki though, do ever prompt. She sold to everyone so far though, your tax max you saw. Now, you suppose tonight, she sold a little much to she's so that much Alexa digit. Yeah. There was a lot of shenanigans on the outside. But yeah, there was way too much offense from NICKY. But whatever that's picking Dover. All the paper was the tag matches rate the women's about a world was was really fun. Like, I watched that pay per view. And I wasn't like I need to go. Take a pitch and leaving go to the bar. Like, I was engaged. I enjoyed that pay per view. I don't know if they'll make another one that just like it. But that was that was great. It was by all accounts seems like they're bringing it back for next year making it a yearly thing which I think is is great. There's only we saw that with the Mayon classic final with the NFC championship the pipeline strong for their women's wrestling. People can argue new Japan has better quality than the WWE or annex t is better than WWE and extreme might be better, Japan Japan. But whatever it is men's wise, you can kinda start arguing about shit. There's no argument the WWE now top to bottom has the best women's wrestling in the world. They're the best town. Yeah. Absolutely. Whether they booked talent properly is always going to be an issue so many master's service. But yeah, I mean, you'll Sarai. I mean Tony store like it's just they're they're loaded. Man. It just looks like if they do if they book them, right? It can be a lot of fun. Obviously, we saw CENA Bazeley it'd be car sane. And then we see the horse women coming together. There's there's a lot. They can do like, it's it's be fun. If the women just had their own show every week. Think wouldn't on loves it. It wouldn't be fun because ruin it. So I. Wouldn't it be great? If NFC was like two hours every week. No. It wouldn't be because it ruined. What makes a fun interests? We trust. Anyway, this hands off it. I'm good tool. Five live fans rate, you know, this. So given to tricks did a complete one eighty. They had to do something. And it's on the network like if you're in you're in like, that's how the networks. That's the good thing about annex t it's like scribe the network here. Any state like rolling tobacco has service a completely different audience? But at any rate is. Yeah, the women are the I mean, it was a great pay per view. We're going with Becky versus Rhonda, which I'm very interested in how this is going to play out in the booking of Becky leash. Like, the he'll turn is a fail. But the fact that she beats Charlotte like I thought she would says a lot about their belief in Becky Lynch like she just cough to title. You're not going to like me for saying this ended, it's horrible. And it's going into maybe got democ hill moment who knows you'd like throwing those out there. But I think survivor series is the perfect time to do the dull ter-. I think you have Rhonda against Becky, I understand clean, finishes, blah, blah, blah becky's on lose regardless. I think you have the four horse women was Shane, marina, all them. Come and start beating down Becky who is still a baby face, even though they're trying to push as he'll you have her dinner beating Rhonda taking her to break. Those women jump into beat a Becky the crowds sympathize with her Rhonda gets all these heat. And then you have Charlotte Sasha Bailey come out to save Becky after Rhonda chiefs to win. They start being done. Becky, and then you have Charlotte and. In Becky hugging out. That's the face heard Becky goes back to being the face in super over. 'cause she is and you built use that to build the run the heat and get her crew go perfect alter. No. There you go. Here's why marina Jessica Duke are not even close to being ready book the four by four match yet. I'm just saying like Shane is not even on the main roster yet. She's annexing women share. It's just more clout. Rhonda versus Charlotte's deal. The max to make wrestlemainia it's still is there's no reason to turn around to heal right now. She's way too over as a face. There's there's going to have to turn. Why you're gonna have a face versus face overlay. Mainly eventing wrestlemainia. Oh, you about Charlotte in Rhonda. You could. I mean, like if you if the W w like with the monkey wrench that Roman reigns. Leukemia has thrown into their plans, you can legitimately have Rhonda versus Charlotte. The first women's match the headline wrestlemainia, and it doesn't matter who the he'll is it. There's no reason it shouldn't be at this point. Like, you'd be the main event, I understand I love AJ sloughs liberty thing else. But if you're gonna pull the trigger and you're going to do it do it in a year where you're still building other tacos. Right. So it's so to turn Rhonda he'll in like two weeks doesn't make any sense. It's like. It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't Becky I think the best thing for Becky right now is to continue being Becky and not aligning herself with the horse instinct, the fuck away in being the shit talking last kicker that she is there's more value in that then bearing the hats it onto show. I do like that better than Becky bell bowl. Like, I like, I don't fuck. Becky a lot more. So the whole Rhonda he'll turn like it'll happen 'cause Ron is like a natural. He'll but dude, I mean, they really gotta get basil to the main roster. They gotta get marina and gentleman working. They haven't done anything yet. So I think you got like almost a year and until round turns view. That's a long time. That is that is. Understand. She still smiles she does a lot of shit. But. Got to cut that I wanna weekend but year, it's now yes now or year 'cause you gotta pull the trigger sooner like the heel faction underneath her is built perfectly. They just helped marina with or they just showing like you got some time. I think I mean post wrestlemainia if there's going to be hill. Certainly it'll be after that it won't be before that ROY is a nice point for he'll turt-. Yeah. It's like that. That would be the way to go. I mean, Shane is coming up soon. It seems like Shane is probably gonna hold this title. Maybe until mania maybe before I think she might move up before then, but she might carrying about whether like Kevin O one such as she could. But you know, but it's going to be impossible to keep her in Rondo away from each other unless they move shayna smackdown which makes even lessons because it feels like it's natural that Rhonda has that crew with her. But you know, we've got some time, but the whole survivor series paying too soon way too. All right. So now we have to discuss the elephant in the room in that is WWE crown jewel, which is now being hosted by none other than the immortal whole Cogan. Vince took a one hundred percent sellout and went to a hundred and fifty percent. Vince, basically said if I'm gonna do bad shit. I'm gonna put it on one bad ass bed. It's full he'll with polio. You have. He's not a tweet him. Like. It's really it's really the show now that she started going. Man. Like, I'll like we're still doing a lab blog. So. Yep. Still watch it this ship. But it's like, I'm gonna watch it. But I'm not gonna like it. That's exactly what I'm watching. I'm not gonna watch it live. So he kiss my ass. I'm gonna watch it when I get home from work on Friday. But I'm not going like. They I mean, they're really trying to with HOGAN they're really trying to put they put me on again. Saudi Arabia was just like we want HOGAN. And was just like all right? Fuck don't kill us. Don't kill it in other journalists. Here's HOGAN, it's man. It's it's it's in such bad taste and Rene Young's on commentary. So I don't know what are they going to dress her up? How'd you do women? Can't wrestle women can be part of competivity. Yeah. I'm like actually I want to go back to skin, right? Like, I'm so confused. I don't know. What's about having? I have no idea. But. Anyway. Yeah. Crowns, you. Who if I if I really wasn't as Supra wrestling fan. I would not watch. I should if I wasn't working this board news. We had a lot blog. I wouldn't watch it. Anyway. Yeah. I mean, I'm just gonna watch it just because like fucking I watch everything, but still it really is off put it with that being said some people not to be there, John CENA and then Brian Johnson. Okay. Just keeps on filming movies. Whatever dental Brian said, I'm not going so they decided to pull the trigger on his title shot. AJ styles on smackdown on Tuesday one hell of a match one of the best matches. You wanna talk about match of the year calibers? This is right up there, and it would blow the top off a pay per view. Instead did on a house show which action to me feel better. Because then Brian was getting booed because they're in Atlanta and styles is so over in his hometown. I thought that was don't it gave a dynamic of face for this. Facebook crowd had their got Daniel Bryant seeing. He's he's the guy everywhere else. So that was amazing. They put on one hell of a show when held a match, and there was a clean finish. So had everything that should have. It just happened to be on Tuesday. Yeah. My only problem with this is you're not getting your wrestlemainia. And it like there was a moment when Joe Ranan, and I started picturing like a triple threat adversity, and I was like holy shit. But it's fucking November in they're doing this already. They're burning Joe out like allege because Joe's now wrestling styles crown jewel list. Joe beat styles. It's like over for Jonas title opportunities. It's finished. So it's pretty much. Yeah. That's the way they're going. But he's still be like depiction is always stalking. Somebody. It's just I don't know. Like the match was good. I kind of watched. I watched it today while I was doing some other. Maybe I need to watch it again. I thought it was good. I didn't think it was like match the year contender. But it just feels weird that they pull the trigger on his early to put it on crown jewel doesn't happy doing on smackdown. That is like a wrestlemainia match. And now, you're not going to get a wrestlemainia. So I guess that's the sticking point. With me is like crown jewels ruining everything. Yeah. 'cause even if you give something like that survivor series. It makes the payment using bigger, right? And it makes a match fielder. There just seems like the stinks hire more eyeballs. So this will just go down a really really good expect, which is dinner. Shame count rule required. Just running down the entire thing. Let me get this run associate going. We have eighty styles. Samoa joe. I think eighty thousand teens. Yeah. I mean the way they booked us unless somebody was in the creative room, which is like look Joe's in this match. Fuck. It was cool the trigger. I don't see that happening. They're not taking a belt off styles until like until the guy. The next guy comes to take it to Vance storyline for like they're pushing this past the punk levels like the guy might not maybe vent shit. But they're giving him the kudos of you know, what you're carrying the brand. So unless MS beat them sooner or later to up the ante on this, very stale, Dan Bryan few. That's this. Did I could see until then no one has come up where the beating day staus? We have the W w World Cup featuring less and less people from the world. Who's winning every match who picked away? This is really sinking feeling that HOGAN host issue means Bobby Lashley would win HOGAN I thought summer sleigh. Right. This is the whole give redemption tour old the Brown band aid. Oh, but feels like medicine really tough because I would love to actually spirit ask though. To go super eulogise EuroPol after the hug. Oh, but that would make them a big case. It doesn't seem like a guy like Ziglar can win. It seems like it has to be an old aggressively. He's angle. It doesn't seem like Rollins can win either. Even though I think he should win. But he's the icy champion so him winning doesn't really elevate its position. These like the second best baby face on raw. And I think it would elevate a he'll. Can't like a kind of stereo one in this shit in some strange way. Maybe mysterious Winston ship to mind that probably get material Hardie site around Lashley angle material versus angle in the finals Misteri wins. It'd be that go with that. Rick. Randy Orton could always win as well. So there's always that. We'll we'll know exactly wits 'cause they face off in the first round. So I'll go mysterious though. Just because he just came back. You gotta keep them hot. And I think he's gonna take the belt off Shinsegei gay so coupon. Then we have the barber is the new day Tyson championships, and it seems like big shows intertwined this. Dr nobody knows what big show did this. They just have nothing to do. People probably want the giants in Saudi Arabia thinking, Andre the giant. And they're going to give them the big show. So the infuse him into something. I feel like it's too too soon to flip the titles back to the new days. I guess Unani gains Barton's, I don't know what other tag teams are in contention in the smackdown tag division. The usa. Does were. I'm not sure if they're us or faces anymore. Title flip. Why not back to new day hot potato and we Soviet 'cause survivor series champion versus champions. So the bar technically would be facing off with Ambrose in Rawlins right now. If she'd stayed the same. Yeah. We'll see on this place out yet. So that's very weird. DX versus the brothers of destruction. I really don't care. Michael's bulbs. Dray ball it people seen as head. But it breaks my heart. That's my child gone. Feels like. Canes gonna take the pen. So I guess the experts you had the mayor take the pit to shit house. Yeah. I think Sean takes the pin. I think take her wins. Like, I think they're gonna get taker take your can't lose this is like wrestlemainia light. Like, the problem is I feel like it's over for taker after this is over for Shawn triple h is not over four. We don't over Sean. Here's a lot of Sean versus AJ styles. Talk for me. I guess I mean you fucking pop the cherry of Sean coming back. So I guess can wrestle full schedule. If you really wanted to. But I don't see them painting exte-, not even full schedule. You just somehow fuck around. Do you have Sean do some stupid shit and win the rumble in phase style? Our no. Now, I'm here. But I mean, I think you might get those two embezzlement. Anyway, I hate to think that because I don't want to come back. Sean, takers, three exactly. But I just feel like cane can take a pin is just like whatever like Shaun king. I don't think Sean show up to lose tributes could lose. But I don't think he'll lose take her won't take the pain. So I think it has to be came. And then maybe less nervous Stroman Oestroem in time. Yeah. I mean, it's clean and then gets wrecked. By McIntyre get. I mean, the seas have been planted like rains has gone. Stroman is the the man on row in Brooklyn. Like, he's not even a part time. I don't know what he is anymore. So he's just he's getting paid that Saudi Arabia money. That's why he's here outside that. He's training. He is. He is felt right. Yeah. So the there's. So yeah, yes. Stroman is the new champ. Baseless clean. Yeah. I think so to be lessons, I clean loss since what did he lost clean terrains? Gobert did rains yet? Well, I'm not sure how rains about that Bill Braun came out threatened to cash in and on the west fear. Yes. So I guess he he lost someone clean. Well, the last person to really really be Lessner is Eddie Guerrero. In like a full fledged. No BS match. Well, Goldberg ran through. So there's that does the show the forest took three minutes. But shocking nonetheless. But yeah. So that's the pay per view that we're going to watch other people may not watch. So we'll recap next week for you in case, you didn't see and get ready for survivor series and Kia broS premiers tonight's in an XT. So that's going to be fun building up to an exceed war games. Which looks like it's going to be an exciting pay per view N exceed never disappoints. So are you going to survivor series, by way of finance asking? It's an. No. I decided to go to New York for Cannella in LA for wilder fury. So I'm not going anywhere. Staying party trays creek. So thank you for listening. Another episode accorded podcast. Make sure you guys follow us all social media platforms at the corner said Mia caldeans him at on his hail. It is a Wednesday night. It is Halloween. 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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 415: The Bengals Might Be Good (9-14-2018)
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Finally, looking forward to the weekend, got a lot of college football games going on. Obviously a lot of NFL games had an NFL game last night between the ravens and Bengals as you know, I will be recapping that game for the fourth segment. Second segment, we will be getting into the MLB for yesterday. Third segment, we will be looking at all the NFL games taking place on Sunday, making my picks. And then on the fourth segment, I will be talking about anything else going on in the world of sports. That's how today shows gonna go. That's how it always goes. And. I can't stand the ravens. I can't stand the fact. Let's hold off. Let's leave the scores and stats and then we'll get into it all. So anyway, Cincinnati at home, beat the ravens thirty four to twenty three. They're at the ravens offense. You have Joe flacco thirty to fifty five on the ball, three hundred seventy six arts two touchdowns two interceptions and fell network put nice little stat graphic on the screen for our us to see yesterday on televisions washing the game. First time flacco was doing for over three hundred yards. Two thousand sixteen. You can take that as you will. I don't think that's necessarily a good stat, unlike any, what you think it's a good step. Flacco has been pretty bad, and I'd say he was pretty bad in the game yesterday to Alex Collins had nine carries for thirty five yards. No touchdowns buck Allen six carries eight yards and a touchdown. Their note Kenneth Dixon and this one, Lamar Jackson with two cares for six yards and we'll get into that. Don't we worry a little bit John Brown who island just might be the best receiver on that ravens team had four receptions for ninety two yards and a touchdown. I mean watching them last week and watch them this week. I think it might be pretty clear also is pretty solid receiver out there in Arizona would he was there Michael Crabtree five catches fifty six yards. Alex Collins had three catches for fifty five yards. Looking at Willie Snead. He had five catches for fifty four yards buck Allen five catches for thirty six hours max Williams. Three catches thirty one yards. And then you had Mark Andrews with three catches for seventeen yards and a touchdown. One thing I will give credit to flack was he knows how to spread the ball around the field. Looking at Cincinnati, Andy, Dalton, twenty four forty to throw the ball, two hundred sixty five yards. Four touchdowns zero interceptions. I made the mistake of thinking that the Bengals were playing on the road this game against Baltimore. So earlier this week I had dropped Dolon and who did I pick up? I can remember exactly. I think I picked up cadences. Keenum sister playing Oakland at home. I made a mistake if I were to new dawn earlier in the week was playing in Cincinnati, would have kept him there either way. I messed up. It's cool. Any goal and played well, like I said, two hundred and sixty five yards four touchdowns there. Joe mixing had twenty one carries for eighty four yards also had one catch for three yards. They're all really like the fact that the Bengals of went ahead with him being their lead back instead of splitting time between him and Giovanni Bernard, I think that's the way to go. And you could clearly telling Bernard did. Alright yesterday he had six carries for twenty seven yards, but you can clearly tell when mixon's out there. I mean there's this. He's just more dynamic Denver, not at this point in both of their careers and looking at the receiving numbers. Tyler Boyd had himself a big game. I mean, every time he caught the ball, he was literally wide open. I don't know what it was, but. Belt more secondary just couldn't keep up with the guy. He had six or sections for ninety one yards and a touchdown. AJ green dominated the first-half five catches sixty nine yards. Three touchdowns c. j. was Oba three catches forty five yards. Tyler. I for effort with two kitchens for twenty three yards. John Ross only has had so far in his first two games of the season. Two catches eleven yards and a touchdown. Pretty disappointing. I'd say considering. I mean he should be doing more, but maybe I don't know. I'm not gonna say I'm not going to get like with the hot takes or anything like that, but he should, like I said, be doing more game. Like I say, you have one catch freight yard, Tyler Kroft who catches eleven yards and then geo Bernard four catches fifteen yards. Let's all the stats of the game went as far as the offense goes. And as far as the game itself, I mean, Cincinnati dominated that first half you could clearly tell Baltimore really had no answers. Scenario was moving the ball up and down the field and also running a lot of know-how to offense. And you could tell that Baltimore, which is pretty much gassed. I mean yet AJ green two touchdowns in the first quarter which made it fourteen zero catches another early in the second quarter which makes it twenty one zero. And I'm not sure how you leave AJ greed that opened in the red zone. When you know it's going to him and shadow Steve Sarkisian. You see what happens when a team utilizes of their best player in the red zone. What a concept, Tom buck Allen scored a touchdown, the second quarter which made it twenty one seven. Then you got Tyler Boyd, catching a fourteen yard touchdown from dawn, which made it twenty eight, seven. And then what kind of save the ravens? What kept them in this game was that Mark Andrews touchdown catch pretty much with a few seconds left in the second quarter which made at twenty eight. Fourteen third quarter comes only one scoring play there, which was a Justin tuck refill. I mean, the guy's automatic. It's not just the fact that he's able to kick fifty yards. Fifty plus yarder so easy. It's the fact that it's down the middle every single time like that fifty five yard that. He kicked in the third. I mean, literally went through the middle had no doubts already like that. The guy might just be the best kicker of all time and I get we got Adam venit Terry and all that. But for being real here, Justin talkers got the better lake and he's more accurate. Fourth quarter comes and the ravens actually may get an easing game guy. John Brown's four and a twenty one yard touchdown pass from flacco which made it twenty eight twenty three should have been twenty four, twenty three, but the ravens ended up going for to instead of kicking the fill there. I feel like the ravens going for two on that play kind of just showed me like John horrible, had no faith in that offense pretty much getting a touchdown what their next because I mean, you knew they were going to get the ball back. So I don't really understand going for two with nine minutes left in the game are the way that, like I said, it's twenty eight, twenty three, then you get Randy. Bullock could kicks a field goal with three minutes left which makes it twenty three thirty. One flacco gets the ball back, has an opportunity to take the team down the field strip sack Lou. Uses it Bengals recover. And then few moments later you got Randy boy kick kicking another field goal which makes it thirty four, twenty three, and that basically put the game out of reach ravens. Got the ball back. And I mean flacco was going thinking dunk on drive where they needed to quick score. And again, no one was expecting the ravens on that last drive to comeback or anything like that because obviously that up score touchdown, get the onside and then drive down the field and get a fill Bob either way. I mean, disappointing game from the ravens. Sure. They turned up in the second half and guess a little. But I mean, the Bengals were clearly the better team here. And if you're looking at the ravens, I got a big problem with them and it's more of an annoyance rather than a problem. Stop putting Lamar Jackson on the field. I mean, it's idiot. It's dumb, it's pointless and makes no sense. John Harbaugh should know better. I don't understand it. Like, does he really think that when you got Lamar Jackson lining up on the outside, does he really think that anyone's going to expect him to throw to them? No, they're not. I mean, it's ridiculous. And the Mark Jackson got couple carries or whatnot. But I mean they're just basic little runs like it's not gonna amount to anything, and I'm not sure it makes it is. It makes no sense to me. It's pointless if I'm the defensive coordinator and the Margerison is lined up on the outside. I'm gonna just use whatever corners on them, and I'm gonna use. I gotta blitz. I mean, why not? We all know that John Harbaugh isn't dumb enough to throw the ball to Lamar Jackson. And I say that because you have to Lamar Jackson in the first round, I'm assuming so that you're expecting him to be your future. Quarterback wants flat goes done, which might be after this year. So why on earth? What I expect you, what a bottle when I have a safe, do probably light him up if need be. So you're not going to do that again. I'm not too worried about Lamar Jackson, getting the ball running in because I'm not expecting you to do much either wet. Then you had flacco lining up as a receiver. I mean, same thing there, why put a db on flacco? Why not just blitz them. So, I mean, I saw that I guess it's more annoying than it is anything else like I get the concept and all that. But I mean, do you really think we're that dumb to think you'll give them our Jackson, the balls far as a pass? And again, I know you got the ball twice running the ball, but you only gained six yards. I mean, keep them on the bitch. She doesn't need to be out there and I don't understand why RG three is the one who's inactive every game and not Lamar Jackson, the mar- Jackson. Is it ready to play football for those of you? See flack on thinks he's, I think he's thinks, yeah, he does. Flacco was not a good quarterback anymore, but stop asking for the Mark Jackson because Lamar Jackson is not better than Joe flacco at this current point in time. I mean, eventually, yeah, you probably will be. But again, he needs develop stop asking for the Mark Jackson. It's not going to happen. He's not ready. If you want another quarterback to come in for flacco it's gotta be RG three, and that's what would happen if flacco did end up, stinking it up and getting benched. The mar- Jackson wouldn't be the guy to start the next week. It'd be RG three. So can we please leave the Mark Jackson alone? He's not that good right now. The eventually yes, he will be, but he can't throw the ball and he's not accurate. You can't just win it on your legs as much as I want the guy to see. It's the truth, give them a year or two, and then start asking for more. But I mean enough about the ravens Bengals are making me look, smarter and smarter with me picking them to finish second in that division. And if you didn't hear that pick, you can go back clue a couple of weeks on the football podcast. And then a couple of weeks ago I made my pigs for one two and three and four for each division and the Bengals finishing. Second in the AFC north, I was pretty nervous about that pig just considering it's the Bengals, but I was really banking on the fact that I was hoping their offensive line did improve, which it has was Donsak at all. Actually, I'm not sure that he was. So you Don didn't get sacked once yesterday. And I mean, that's always been the case. When dollar has had a clean pocket. He's been a very good quarterback last two years. He's been south more than any other year. I think except for maybe one last two years. He's taken eighty six. That's obviously going to limit your quarterback in your team. So as far as it goes, I mean. One of the takeaways here is that the bills are very bad, like terribly bad, like Kim Bama beat them bad because when you look at it, the ravens didn't play well all in this game. I mean, yeah, they made a close, but in reality just wasn't a good game from them and you'll get buffalo US forty seven to three two team. It's ridiculous, but are the way we'll see what ends up happening. Let me see. Cincinnati's got coming up next Cincinnati. I think it's there in Carolina next week. That'll be a tough one. Cincinnati's probably gonna end up going to and to unless they're able to be Atlanta in Atlanta, which is gonna be tough, but doable. Who the ravens got next, the ravens have. The Broncos in Baltimore. So that's one thought mean we'll see what Broncos do this week against the raiders, but that's one where the ravens can drop also were. They couldn't have picking up the win and then got Pittsburgh. They got three road games after that, which is tough and the saints. So I mean not a great schedule going forward for the ravens book either way. That's all I got to say about that game. Again. You had the Bengals winning this one, thirty four, twenty three next up are we will be heading to the obese. So stay tuned and I'll be right back. The average sedan is built with a steel frame equipped with six airbags. Remember this the next time you see someone walking drivers be aware, pedestrians, don't have armor a message from the California office of traffic safety. The average SUV has two blind spots ways between four and six thousand pounds and takes about six seconds to stop. Remember this the next time you're on foot, pay attention. People pedestrians don't have armor a message from the California office of traffic safety. All right, welcome back to the GSM see sports podcasts. We spent that I say, talking about the Thursday night football game between Baltimore and the Bengals Bengals ended up winning that went thirty four, twenty three. They were clearly the better team throughout and deserve the the win. Also, I don't know if you saw, but Michael Irvin got his feelings hurt yesterday from Steve Smith. I mean, I think Mike, we're on the, I think it might have in the post game of the pre game either way. It didn't really matter micro was telling talking about how Joe Joe flacco hasn't had a receiver he could trust. It's anquan Boldin let us not forget Steve Smith also played with Joe flacco and Steve Smith took exception that they were John bit back and forth, like some friendly, I guess. I guess as friendly back and forth or whatnot, Steve Smith tells Michael Irvin that he got a doctorate degree in route running. And Michael Irvin had an associate's degree in route running. Then Michael Irvin being the hurt man that he was was what's back to his rings. Let's let us not forget that Mike woven played with Troy Aikman and Emmitt Smith and got those rings. And that's what people who tend to get their feelings hurt. Do like Yankees fans, he saying need to them, they'll bring up, oh, but we got twenty-seven ranks. Great. I've even did the same thing. It was just pretty funny, I'd say, and you can clearly tell Michael Irvin guidance feelings are now what really mess with these Smith. I mean, that's not one guy. You talked trashed here, that's just you don't do it because if you do, he's gonna come back at you and he's going to come back at back at you much worse than you came out him. So I mean, you kinda got to pick and choose your battles. There are the way. That was pretty fun to this yesterday. So now we move on from that and. Are the dodgers the most disappointing team of the decade. Honestly, on this question. We see them year after year. Make big moves try and win now, and they always come up short. I mean they might just be the most overrated team in all of baseball. Considering we talk about him all the time and act as if they're this great team. I mean they might not even make the playoffs this year. Imagine trading for Manny Machado, Ryan dosier at the trade deadline at not making the playoffs. And again, they do have a chance there only in a game and a half back of the Rockies right now for that NO west late. I don't think anyone in the NL Wes will be finishing as a wildcard team, but I've gotten a little tired of the dodgers. I mean, it's ridiculous. You made it to the World Series last year, but who cares? You lost dodgers I haven't won anything since. I think nine thousand nine hundred eighty eight. When is that going to change? I'm almost positive, Manny. Machado won't be back with the dodgers next year. He'll probably be in pinstripes or playing somewhere else where they're paying him absurd amounts of money. Highly doubt. He's in LA Dexter. And like I said, I mean, you've had Kershaw there forever and you still haven't done anything with them. Eventually, we gotta talk about the dodgers being, like I said, the most is appointing team of the decade. It's been ridiculous. Move seeing the cubs win after hundreds of years. We've seen the Red Sox win. The Astros where did the dodgers are gonna come in and have their little moment. I mean, eventually we got to stop talking to him up as if this great team and start realizing, yeah, there bit overrated. So I mean, I just wanted to get my two cents on the dodgers. I'm looking at that division. I'm gonna go with Rockies winning it. I think that's the best team in that division. Currently kind of given up on the Diamondbacks. They're four and a half games back in the Rockies right now. So I'm gonna go ahead and write them off. They've lost two in a row. They're three and seven. In the last ten dodgers have won two in a row. They're five and five in their last ten. And then you've got the Rockies who have one to enroll in. They're seven and three in their last ten. I'm not really sure how SPN does their numbers or anything like that. But for some reason, they got the dodgers with a much higher winning percentage as far as who's gonna end up winning that division. Like what sense does that make it? I've never really understood ESPN and their little analytics and all that. As far as all this little machine or computer predicts this, like I don't get it half the time most of the time it's wrong. But what do I know? Right anyway. Moving on from that. Anything else we need to get into before we start talking about the scores from yesterday. Talks about David Wright yesterday I saw his press conference. I said yesterday it'd be kind of funny if you went over in his final games with the Mets. I take that back. I mean, that was more so a joke bought. I like to see ride do well. I mean, like I said yesterday, it was a great player and it's things that injuries is basically what cut its career short. I mean, when he was healthy, he was a top five third basement. And now I mean, the guy can't play anymore. So for my job yesterday, I take it back. OB does well, but I also said, I hope he did well, should I also so there is that let's see. Anything else currently going on talked about Joe Mauer yesterday also. I think that's pretty much it right now. I think we're getting real close to the. I think I'm pretty comfortable with weddings and to make the playoffs in the now. I mean, I'd go with the Braves, obviously in the cubs winning their division Rockies winning there's and then the cardinals and Rockies making both wild card spots and facing off in the wild card game. But looking at the scores for Thursday, the thirteenth. You had the Rockies beat the Diamondbacks ten, three. I mean, like I said, Rockies are dominant right now. They're playing their best baseball season. I'd say at the right that the best possible time. So yeah, I got them winning the division Mets beat the Marlins four, three in game. One of their double header. You had the cubs beating the nationals in ten innings, four, three. Mets also took game two of the double header five to, I guess, the Marlins Red Sox beat the Blue Jays four, three Red Sox had bullpen issues once again in that one. And like I said, no one is still, no one is still talking about that problem. I'm not really sure why. Let's see. They were three one in the eighth will before the top of eighth got there, then they gave up two runs in the top makes it which makes it three three. And then you got the Red Sox coined the bottom of the eighth which gives them the four three lead there. I'm not really sure what it is what this team, but someone's got to figure out what's going on with the ballpoint. I mean, who can you really trust their Bobby Poynter didn't pitch? Well, neither did Joe Kelley. So we'll see what ends up happening with the Red Sox. But again. Going into the postseason with Bopenda shoes isn't necessarily a great thing considering usually you need a solid bullpen to go deep into the postseason. As for the as bad loss there, they lost the royals five, three as really at this point in time with their season can't be losing two games to bad teams. I mean, it just can't happen euros have over one hundred losses and I get, it's baseball. You're going to drop a game every now and then, but not at this time. I don't care if it's baseball on care what is happening as have, got to pull out these games here can't be losing the teams with triple digit losses. It just can't hap- dodgers beat the cardinals nine, seven core shell with a win there. It's see you had the royals beat the twin six, four and the game. Nobody cared about the Mariners beat the angels eight to their leg that today's matchups for Friday. The fourteenth you get the White Sox and oil starting up a series. You got James shields going up against Louis Ortiz, Blue Jays and Yankees planned today. Tanaka going up against Marco Estrada Marlins going up against the Phillies Red Sox playing the Mets. You got Noah. Syndergaard going up against Hector Velazquez, but not. Surprised at the Mets end up taking a win here. I mean as good as Boston's hitting has been. I'm not even sure if Hector guys can get you. Actually. It's been all right kind of decent this year, but I don't know. I don't trust them. I think syndergaards going to get the win here. Then you got the Tigers playing the Indians as going against Tampa Bay is going to be a tough series for the as and it seems like more people are catching onto the fact that ten bay actually really. I don't wanna say a really good team, but yeah, actually, really good team there. Eight hundred sixty five right now and more people are catching onto them. I mean, it kind of seems like people I wait the razor actually this many games over five hundred. Then we got the nationals and Braves going up against going up against the chiller today, the max Scherzer going up against Kevin Goslin dodgers in cardinals, continuing their series, reds and cubs. I mean, remember when Matt Harvey used to be good. What a time anyway, Matt Harvey's pitching against the against Cole hamels tonight. Then you got the pirates and brewers playing later today. Yeah, GIO Gonzalez going for the brewers in Chris Archer, going for the pirates Diamondbacks going up against the Astros is going to be a fun series as could be the one that wipes out the device completely as far as the west divisional race twins and royals going out at still Mariners angels Rangers Padres and then Rockies giants. There was ever a time for the Rockies stresses Oles lead. It'd be here against the giants. The giants are just a bad team. They can't hit and it might just be time to blow it up and rebuilt. And that's for the Rockies. Like I said, kind of like what I was saying about the as in their game last night when they lost the oil is the fact that you can't really lose games. I get that. It's going to be tough to sweep the giants, but you definitely gotta take two out of three, three out of four. However, many of their plan can't really afford more than one loss here considering the dodgers right behind you. We'll see what ends up happening. Like I said, we got the dodgers planned the cardinal, so that'll be a bit of a fun game to watch. Their also has some wildcard implications and speaking of the wildcard. Let's take a look at all the divisional standings and then we will get into wild card. Alias threats, ox, one zero one, forty, six, ten, and a half up on the Yankees. Yankees really need that while card game to be at home considering they're a terrible team on the road. Central, you know what's going on. Their ashes are three and a half up on Oakland in the AL west Braves. Basically, I'm going to say they've won their division. I mean, they're seven and a half games up on Philadelphia. Cubs are a game and I have on the brewers, four and a half up on the cardinals and the central. And then like I said, you got the Rockies game and a half on the dodgers four and a half up on the Diamondbacks and leading at the wild card. Yankees a game and a half up on the as for that top spot and a wildcard, brewers, three games up on the cardinals cardinals in that second spot, a game up on the dodgers and four on the Diamondbacks. So we'll see what ends up happening there. I mean, baseball, regular season isn't really mean by, I mean, there's way too many games going on, but either way definitely excited for the postseason it. We'll be postseason also one of the best in sports too. I think I'll take the Stanley Cup playoffs overall. I think it would go Stanley Cup as far as excitement goes down the Cup playoffs. The postseason, the NFL playoffs and then the NBA playoffs. Fourth for those NBA people out there. I mean, we all know is winning in the west. Don't we. Yeah, we do. And for the last eight years, we've known who was winning in the east, right? Yeah, we did fell. I think I'm right on now either way. We're going to wrap it up here next up. We'll be heading back to the NFL looking forward to the games on Sunday and making some picks. So stay tuned and we'll be right back. The average sedan is built with a steel frame and equipped with six airbags. Remember this the next time you see someone walking drivers be aware, pedestrians, don't have armor a message from the California office of traffic safety. Welcome back to the ABC's sports podcast. So far today we've talked about that Thursday night football game between Baltimore and Cincinnati, Cincinnati, wedding. That one thirty four twenty three. Joe flacco still not good, still not elite and we move on from that talked talked about the dodge being over rated. I mean the most disappointing team in the last decade. How have you not one anything? I don't know, updated the standings, the scores from yesterday and looking at the the day now we move on and we got more football on Sunday. So now we will look at those games, make some pigs. And then for the fourth segment, we'll talk about anything else going on in the world. This bortz. So let's look at it first game to look at Panthers falcons. I mean, I don't know how Vegas has the falcons so high. I mean, they're giving them six and a half, which makes no sense to me. But I the way I've kind of given up on in the falcons, they're going to change their offense up. It's just a matter of if they do it, they do it if they don't, then they don't. Like I said, it's kind of pointless to wait on it. I mean, I've seen some people try to defense keys, Ian, which makes no sense to me get. Maybe some stats might be better what not beleaguered the red zone and look how terrible they've been the last couple of years. Last year they were terrible and leading the game one, nothing changed and I don't think it's really something where it's like, oh, it's too early to check or form an opinion on it. No, it's not because it's been kidney continue on from last season. Literally. Nothing changed in that first game. We watched the repeat of the NFC division around game between Philly and Atlanta last week, and I said, nothing changed. I'm not counting on the falcons, fix it because why should I. So I'm going with the Panthers in this game. I mean, I don't think there's any reason not to again don't know why Vegas is so high on the falcons era. Yeah, I'm definitely going with the Panthers, so we'll see anyway, Ryan from my fantasy football team, the guy just. I give up on the falcons. Then you get the chargers and bills. This will probably be one of the biggest blowouts the weekend, probably not considering when you expect something to happen, it doesn't. But either way I'm going with the chargers. I mean the buffaloes terrible. You got Zayd Jones mom calling Kevin, Benjamin him not lining up on the right part of the field for that bills offense, which is just ridiculous. I mean, the bills are terrible. The offense stinks, Leshan. McCoy won't do anything weekend. Their defense defense isn't that great either. So I'm going with the charges in this one. It's in buffalo. It would be very charged like for them to lose this game and for them to make me look them. But either way I am picking the charges to win this game. And it looks like no Joey Bosa either. So we move on from that. Then we got the Vikings and Packers. Iraj is playing. He's gotta be playing. There's no way that doesn't. I'd say. I mean, if you actually, I'm not sure I'm expecting him to play, but I wouldn't be surprised if he did. It seems like maybe in that. Actually, I'm not gonna say anything, but out of the way. Looking at that game last week. I mean, if he was able to play their Masumi, he'd be able to play here. But again, things don't really work that way and looking at the Vikings. I mean. With them. I think the better team right now. Then again, we've only played one week or one week of football. The I'm gonna go with Minnesota. I'm gonna say they beat Green Bay in lambo, which is going to be tough. And this is a bit of a pick em game considering the Green Bay Packers favorite only by point now definitely go dividing here as good as Rogers is. I just think that the Vikings are just the more complete team at this point in time, Kirk cousins. I liked Alvin cook. I think he's gonna go for a big game. It's the fon digs is slowly, but surely on his way to becoming a top ten receiver, Adam and still doing his thing. And like I said, the Vikings defense is one of the best football. It's far as the Packers go. I mean, they have no shot of Kaiser plays as much as I liked the guy. I mean, I'll call it like it is they won't win them. So you always need Rodgers out there and have a chance devante out of also been banged up this week too. So that also goes into it round Oqab. Again, I thought to do was like thirty years old. At least he's only twenty eight last week. He had nine. For one hundred and forty two yards. Will he replicate that this week? Probably not not expecting the Packers running game to do anything. I don't think that defense is going to be good enough to stop this Vikings offense. So yeah, I am going with the Vikings in this one with the upset in lambo then probably the least exciting game of the weekend between the titans and Texans this place in Tennessee. I mean, does Shawn Watson looked like garbage first game against the patriots? I'm gonna call like it is was terrible thirty or seventeen thirty four thr on the ball hundred seventy six ers, touchdown. I mean patriots defense made them look like rookie Marcus mariota also looked terrible against Miami. He had to solid opening drives to start to game one where. They got to touch on on one of those drives. Yeah, I think they did the other where they got stopped on a fourth and goal, but either way, I mean, even before Mario to got hurt, he still wasn't looking great. And like I said, game, Blaine gabbert did well to help that team move the ball down the field more solar Mario to as far as who I got in this game, I'm gonna go with the Texans. I mean, this is a bit of a pickup game here. I mean, neither team is really at least after week. One showed us that they're very good or anything like that. I mean, Texans made that score. It's patriots a little bit nicer, but I'm not really expecting much from them near the Tian's bummer. Go to texins here just given that they got the better all around team. Then we got the Browns and saints. This is a fairly easy pick here. I mean, the Browns may disappointing me last. We got picked beat Pittsburgh. They ended up tying not sure how they squandered every opportunity to win that game. They had about five opportunities to win that game. And as far as the saints go. I mean, they got embarrassed by Ryan Fitzpatrick last. Week, which just simply can't happen, but it did so expect him to come out here. Defense probably play a little bit better. I'm expecting Mike Thomas. Another big game. Then we got the dolphins in jets. You can lock this pig down. I get that Sam darnold play well last week and the jets beat up on the lions. But I do think we are over hyping the jets a tiny bit. I mean is air Crowell for the most part, then it really do too much that one run for a touchdown. Also had another one there either way. I'm not expecting them to do the same thing darnold do for less than two hundred yards last week. I mean, if not for that third quarter, it's a much closer game and I'm expecting Miami to give up thirty one points like like Detroit in third quarter. I'm going with Miami here. Miami always tends to play well in New York. I mean, the fans travel Weller. I think Brian tannehill, Adam gays, and the rest of the team are going to be able to get it done. Frank gore will become the fourth all time leading rusher in the NFL in NFL history. Sure. Kenny stills. Well, all game dolphins looked to be getting devante Parker back in this one. I'm not sure if that really makes a difference. But I mean, still gotta know talk about it and Miami's defense is about ten times better than Detroit's to Donald play wellness wanted the jets will make close game, but I'm going with Miami here, lock it down. Then we got the chiefs play in the Steelers. Chiefs. I mean, why wouldn't you do the Steelers show you anything to show that maybe they'd be better than the chiefs in this game here? No, they did it Big. Ben played terrible due for one touchdown, three interceptions three hundred thirty five yards when twenty three or forty one throw on the ball. James. Connor got the ball thirty one times last week. I'm sure it's going to be a high scoring game, but I just think that are going to be able to pull this went out. So I'm going with them. They we got the eagles in bucks. I've been kind of worried about this pig as the weakest went on voice thought the eagles are gonna win this game. But I mean as bad as Nick foles look, weak one. I'm still going to go with them. I don't expect Ryan Fitzpatrick to play as well as he did last week given the eagles defense as much better than the saints expecting Fletcher Cox guys do well. So I'm gonna go with the eagles here and they start out to and then they got the colts Redskins. I'm really root for you to get that win, but I gotta go with Washington here. They're just a better team at this point in time. I mean, defence is much better and I'd say offense as much better. The only thing the colts got Redskins beat is quarterback, Alex, Alex is going to do well Smith played well last week. Adrian Peterson should have himself day here. Last week you ran for ninety six yards and a touchdown also had seventy yards receiving. I mean Peterson says he wants to play about three more years in the NFL. Why not? I mean, he's not a bad running back by any means those who say that he was washed last just tells me that you didn't watch him at all. He didn't really get an opportunity with the saints. He gets traded to the cardinals and when you're playing with gabbert Andrew, Stanton as your quarterbacks. Yeah, the defenses are gonna tend to stack the box and force the quarterbacks to be. That's why AP wasn't really playing well last season and he did have a two one hundred thirty plus rushing yard games. So let's pump the brakes on the whole Adrian Peterson's washed. How about you. Play actually before Megan an uninformed opinion without watching it, then you had the cardinals and Rams playing this Sunday. I'm gonna go with the Rams here. I mean, the Rams started off shaky the raiders week. One. I mean in the first half really realized, hey, we got talked early. How about we give him the ball, a bunch of times they did that in the second half and the raiders had no answer for it cardinals real disappointing. Last week. I don't get David Johnson only run the ball about nine times made no sense to me. San Braford isn't a good quarterback. I can't wait till this, Josh Rosen time out there in Arizona, but until it is, I'm going with the Rams here and they should win. Big, big favorite by thirteen. And this one. Then we got the lines of forty Niners neither team played well in week. One lines officers looked terrible, forty Niners look good Rappalo three pigs against the Vikings Safran with four. So I mean, both of these teams are about the same right now. Now they're showed a good week one performance, but I'm going to go with the forty Niners there at home, and I don't think there's any reason why Jimmy Garoppolo pay players last week. Detroit's defense is much worse, but there's always the chance that maybe Matt Patricia houses team whip back in the shape. I'm not banking on that. So I'm going with the forty Niners favored by six. That's pretty generous by Vegas, their raiders at Broncos. I mean, raiders they are bringing back Martavis Bryant if not already. They just signed Johnathan hankins, which I saw from an Adam Schefter tweet to their defensive line. Obviously they need pass, rush out, shouldn't have traded away. Khalil Mack nonetheless did, and this when I'm going with the Broncos Royce Freeman, Philip Lindsay, the two running backs for Denver played well last week. So did the Mary Thomas and Derek Carr. You can't continue to go to. Jared cook every play. You're eventually not to look at your outside receivers, but the way I'm willing. The way I'm with Denver. Here we got the patriots in Jags. I'm going with Jacksonville defense is going to win this game. I mean, Leonard fournette might not play for Jacksonville and this when really gonna matter much. I'm not expecting Tom braided to carve up his defense like he did last year in the AFC championship game considering Damadola there. They will have gronk for the entire game hopefully like last year when they did it. But our the way I'm going with the Jags here and this one. Then we got the giants Cowboys Landon Collins called out Dak Prescott basically said that they'll beat them if they keep the ball in his hands Dak Prescott being the robot that he is challenge accepted. I mean, the dude is literally a robot. I'm going where the giants here always never play while on Sunday night at home against the giants. Then we got the Seahawks and bears on Sunday or on Monday will preview that one on Mondays episodes. So we'll refrain from making that pick. So those are my picks for the weekend. Again, I got the giants beaten the Cowboys Jags being the patriots Broncos beating the raiders Niners beaten the lions Rams weeding the cardinals Redskins beating the colts eagles beating the bucks cheese beating the Steelers dolphins being the jets. Again, locked down saints, beating the Browns Texans beating the titans Vikings beating the Packers chargers, beating the bills and the Panthers beating the falcons. We'll see how rod I am so wrap it up here. Next segment, like I said, we talking about anything else going on. Anywho sports. So stay tuned and I will be right back. The average SUV has two blind spots ways between four and six thousand pounds and takes about six seconds to stop. Remember this the next time you on foot pay attention. 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Schefter tweet will quick tweeted something about Mike variable, and it has to do a Marcus mariota. I'm Blaine. Gabbert I'm very curious to see what exactly Mike got planned four this Sunday's games, and I remember seeing that all the rookie coaches last week went Owen seven when Ricky coaches coaches with their new teams or whatnot. Let's see. Schefter tweeted ten minutes ago. Mike Rabaul said he and Tippett's that there's a scenario that both QB's marks maryetta and Blaine gabbert are likely to play Sunday versus the Texans. I mean, Mario, what is done in Tennessee? He's not that good of a quarterback. And this just be an instance where both the one and second first and second pick being cubeys. Jamie swinson marks just aren't very good, but we'll see. Let me take a look at. Let me take a look at. My pigs and see which working coaches are whatever you wanna call them. Debut in coaches here are going to get their first win. So I got the raiders losing. So gruden's out. Let's see through it. All. I got Tennessee losing so survey variables out. I got the red though, colts losing. So Frank Reich is out. I got the cardinals losing. So that's Owen four right there. Patricia. Losing thoughts and five. Got Shurmur winning. So it's one and six and then said haven't made my pick for the Monday night game. One in five, actually waiting for Monday night to get here Monday to get my pick for the bears the Seahawks game. I'm not sure which way I'm leaning there. Just considering the fact that Russel Wilson played extremely well in that game against Denver and showed me that he's gonna keep this team competitive and they'll probably win about seven to eight games this season. But either way. Yeah, not going to be another good week for first year head coaches with their new teams, and it feels weird calling Gruden first year coach, I mean with coach the raiders before and all that. But I guess you kind of have to. The way. I mean, we'll see what ends up happening. Might McCarthy's been talking to reporters and all that says that Rogers doesn't need a practice in order to play. It agree with that. I mean, why would he we all know what Aaron Rodgers is. We all know he can play quarterback practices pretty meaningless for those guys. Like I don't think Tom Brady needs practice. I don't think Aaron Rodgers needs practice guys who have just been established in the league, donate practice. I mean, we see top running backs in the league who just don't play in the preseason or anything like that. I mean, if they're good, they're good, but out of the way moving on from that, we had basketball school Davidson playing football. They wanna game ninety one to sixty one over division three Gilford. Davidson is an FC team and. I mean, how does that happen? How bad do you gotta be? I mean, how bad beat to come up with a score like that. I mean, you're basically scoring every other player, something like that. I imagine in Davidson's got a terrible defense. I'm looking at the highlights right now. They got a pretty solid. Pretty solid unions, but either way yet ninety one sixty one. I mean division three football ridiculous. Let me see yards here that I could look at. Davidson a three and for the first time since two thousand give them bam. Give them Bama. Let's see. They said NCAA record for total yards. Nine hundred and sixty four rushing six hundred and eighty five program record for points and yards and half. And again, he stats coachee of this article. Average fifteen point five yards per play. Scored at score thirteen touchdowns in that game. Eight of them went for fifty plus yards. And then another one for forty plus. It's ridiculous. That's not even a good thought, even good. I get a wacky story or whatnot, but I mean, I don't know why college football teams refused to play defense. Let's take a look at the college football games going on over the weekend. We'll take a look at the top twenty five games. It's make some picks there. We usually don't, but would do it here. So let's see four, the top twenty five. You got Clemson playing Georgia Southern not expecting an upset here. Clemson favored by thirty two and a half. I'll go with Clemson, Georgia versus middle Tennessee, Georgia winning that one Oklahoma versus Iowa State. Iowa state's always good for an upset. One upset a year. I don't think that this will be that game. I'll go with Oklahoma, Penn State versus Kent state. I'll go with Penn State there. We got Miami versus Toledo. I mean, can we please get rosier out of there? Please? Anyone Miami winning that one Stanford versus UC Davis. UC Davis knocked off. Not San Jose State in their first game knocked off San Diego, not San Diego State, but university of San Diego on their second. Currently ranked in the f. c. s. whatever the division one AA teams, whatever that division is. FCS, but I'm not going with UC Davis here. I'll go with Stanford. We got Notre Dame vs Vanderbilt. Notre Dame is going to end up falling off this season. You can clearly tell nothing has really changed from the last few years, but it won't be. It's Vanderbilt, actually. I don't know. Vanderbilt's got a pretty solid team that they're building up, but. Kinda wanna go with Vanderbilt kind of reckless. Go with Notre Dame kansin versus BYU, Jonathan Toews in a run all over that defense LSU versus Auburn at twelve thirty Pacific time. I'm willing LSU here. I'm all in on the Tigers owes Ron. I'm going with them as good as Auburn is like LSU here, Boise state versus Oklahoma state. Boy being ranked seventeenth Oklahoma, state twenty. Fourth, I'm gonna go with Oklahoma state. Not really, really upset concern. Got Oklahoma state favorite in this one. Michigan vs SMU. I'll go with Michigan San Jose State versus Oregon's pretty Oregon sounds state might not wanna game this season. Then you've got Bama going. It's old miss bama's going to win by thirty Mississippi State versus Louisiana, Mississippi State Ohio State versus TCU a house that's going to blow out the water here. Then we got USC versus Texas. I mean they keep trying to remind us of that Rose Bowl game like I get it, but both of these teams stink. I'm gonna go with USC here. I saw that. Under their current head coaches eleven. It gets unranked opponents. There's no reason for me to believe Texas will win this game either all go with. Then we got Washington versus Utah among go with Utah. With the upset here don't really like Washington. They're only favored by five here. So obviously Vegas likes Utah, all go with Utah. Also, Arizona state visit San Diego State. That's going to be a good little game for her mad words. Again, Arizona state here. They're rank twenty-third currently. And then for the top twenty five match ups, we got some games cancelled Virginia Tech versus East Carolina, West Virginia versus NC state. And then UCF Ursus, North Carolina. Obviously, those games council because of the hurricane. Hopefully everyone stays safe out there. Those are my pick for this weekend's games. Anything else currently going on in the world of sports? That's pretty much that's going on as far as picks or anything else. I mean, big news Leonard for net is a game time decision for Sunday talked a bit about yesterday, sharks, getting Carlson. I mean, that tends to be disgusting. They need to bring us down the Cup to San Jose. But again, it is going to be tough considering Nashville who's atop out west and Vegas. Who is still building up and looking like they're not gonna fall off compared to last year, so we'll see what ends up happening, but that's all I got for today today. 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I was skiing downhill with no sticks was going. Whoa. This is a little slippery. I think I kept it together for the most part. I'm going to ask one or two stupid questions. But really love is perspective. Really love talk domes super cool, funny friendly guy, and I hope you enjoy it new just half as much as I enjoyed talking to him. You love this. So please give it up for killer. Mike. The Joe Rogan experience. Podcast. Boop. So I took a four and a half hour ride down to San Diego because my friend Brennan was fell into Showtime special. And it was run the jewels. The entire way down in back. It was awesome. Thank you. Who could work out as hard as people work out music? I've lost thirty one pounds. But I'd be ninety pounds out easy. Now that was one of the things that I was saying, this is workout music. Yeah. It is it is. And and our Chevy's too fast. Well, you saying you lost thirty one. Picked up three hundred. But I'm on my path. I really am shots out to our Claiborne. Who's from out here? Who's a hell of a trainer if I had his disciplined already be one hundred pounds down, but two is one hundred and the next eighteen month, you can do one hundred. Just eat bad and got lazy. But you know, what man you could turn. It's one of those things where you just if you could stick with it for ninety days, it'll become a part of your life. Well, that's the goal has to go. And I'm about it because I like meat. So I still get to eat me. I like green stuff, and I don't like salad dressing. So I think we're gonna be relatively easy for me. Yeah. Like olive oil and vinegar does not taste bad, bro. I don't even use that. Like when I have a salad wife make salads. She literally will make the salad. She may add a little Caesar not she'll she'll tell some chicken or some sake on there. But if it's fruit in the salad, I don't need any salad dressing, just throw some strawberries apples or something something to just give me that sprout juiston. And I'm good if I could figure out doing that three or four times a day versus the one meal on with my wife and then eating trash in the studio. I'll be that's the problems from the temptation roles, burgers and fries. Fuck it. You see a Coca Cola? Death. That really is it from me. I had to switch sodas because the worst which is which is which brings me to Kripa cola. Yeah. So what is crippled? Bottles of it. But I wanted to keep in the fridge yet. I want to join it. And it's perfect temperature. Coca Cola, Pepsi Cola. RC cola anything with cola right has probably killed more than anything else in the world. Right. So anything that's color because Coca-Cola's provided tons of jobs in my hometown. I won't want to distance they might promote a concert of my right? But we know that sugary drinks aren't good for you. Right. Yeah. We don't have an version two. We don't criminalize sugary. And my doctor told me Michael sugar is poison right? I want you to work it out of your diet. But these kids that are members of these little pockets street fraternities, essentially gangs. We criminalize villain is a bunch of teenagers. Who simply don't have anything to do. They don't have jobs. They don't have skills. They don't have organization. They don't have police athletic league. Like they used to. They don't have people engaging them in academics sports where they used to. So they just kind of you know, mess off fuck off sometimes fuck up in violence happens. Right. If you could take those same kids with opera, no spirit that will save you ward on the side of a highway. You add to something the public already wants anyway cola. You create something like Kripa colon be pop, and essentially what you're doing is creating the same sugary shit that we all go by and drink, and we shouldn't. And now, we're giving the structure of say Hells Angels to say, yeah, you could say we're criminal organization, but we still can sell you your fucking t-shirt because we're now pay our taxes. We're now employing people now doing we're supposed to do. And that's what I wanted to give the gift of my friends who are who are members of St. fraternities. And we actually pulled it off at the show. These guys actually managed to bring something and microcosm to the market in Atlanta. It did well enough to keep continue doing it. And I'm going to see I can go and what's in it sugar water artificial artificial. What is it food color and flavor nets it? I think it's six ingredients sold roles. Have you do you know, what Zevia is even fuck with me and the fake sugar and stuff you use? It's nosy is soft drinks that are may with stevia. Yeah. But the thing is like, you know, what? You know, what I found out with me with sugar Issy that just do it or go like for me? It's easy to do things that are actually a real just sugar like Mexican coke or just have some carbonated water with lemons in it. I don't do. Well with this kind of like in the hand job. I want the whole thing. I know what you're saying. But this stuff is good. It's it's different. Who has suggested did it? It's just my I of such an addict want the real thing. Yeah. So it doesn't make sense to me. Sometimes attempt myself Trump water. I just I do a lot of water. Now a lot more water now. And I do a lot of clubs soda with line which used to talk to you too L P about. White guy drinks. And now, it's a fucking. He's ordering a drink drinking. I'm just like, I'll take a club sold. That's good, man. If you could stick on that path Johns out to my man bear Lok. Who is a friend and mentor. A lot of times, you might see guy with me with security, Barron to deuce me to Shaolin kung FU basically kicking and punching and moving around, and he also introduced me to a lot of guests on your show, including you know, guests at talk about it in a minute fasting nuns about getting rid of sugars and stuff, and he just loves me. Like, a big, brother. So he keeps me in tune. But what's gone on introduced me stevia, always good? No guy like that. Because it's finger on the pulse. I no people they're smarter than me. So I don't have to learn as much can just go to them with questions. Yeah. That's the move. Yeah. I don't I don't like being the smartest guy. No. Well, I don't have that choice options not possible to get another row. Smart. Fuck that. Yeah. I mean, talking Elon Musk on the show about that. When he was talking to me about the thoughts that are bound bouncing around inside of his head that he can't control. And then he's always been his whole life. Like, you wouldn't want to be me? I was like Jesus Christ some thinking about it. I thought I did something cool smoking with mar. And that was definitely cool. But you get the most to fucking smoke is classic stone or history in the making right there. Yeah. I didn't even the thing about it is if I had any idea that people would react to it that way. I mean, I would just do that on a normal show. That's normal points. Louisville smoke weed. It's no big deal. It's fun. Camaraderie thing. Everybody's sharing space together. It's absolutely one of the things that you sip off that another man's lips. Touched like everybody does it. Yeah. Well, women too. But we thought admit to ourselves that there's another guy. That's true. But that's like it's been washed. To join the person. Is like if someone wanted to give you a hall off of their cigar? Try this like get the fuck outta here. We had Noriega did that to me Manuel Noriega Noriega, the rapper Victor, Santiago. Cigars hang out of cigars and Don coke and I'm not a cocaine. But I would have definitely I've talked about going to Columbia, and I never said this to you. She said what I said if we're going to Columbia. We're going to do okay. I said of all the places in the world. I said no to cocaine everywhere from Dubai the Denver. But in Colombia, I say fuck it we're here. Yeah. When you're in Hawaii. Oy. Go to allow I would try for sure. Those leaves the chew wing of the. And Peru when you as you ascend up the mountain shots out the technique, my Peruvian friend, I love that do. Yeah. I do too man. It's been on a couple of times. He's a great Gavin. Great human being that guy. Brought me a plate of his grandma's food to the podcast. That's how down-home that dude. Is he's wanting to. A plate of food. He's a great human, man. Like, he's a great. He like that's more the stuff I'm saying people need to do instead of arguing ideas. And extremes. You need to get with people who don't look like, you are not culturally alike, and you need to allow them to do things like that. Because friendships empathy and bills bridges instead of burning. Well, he's a real do. He is he's a real that. We is. I mean that is who he is got very strict ethics in his mind. He's he's he's like a soldier in terms of heat how he thinks an operates and take care of his people and moves he took me on my first tour with rap music as what rap music before me out went out together. I went out with him. We ran through the south together. And I just he was just pro all the way, and we became friends, and I just love him to death now. And I go to war with them any day. He's a great deal of hung out with him a few times. Yeah. Like him a lot came to my mother's funeral. God blesses so around here, I believe that that sounds like him. Yeah. There's good people out there man, even in show business, wacky ass show business. Yeah. People shelby. None of the people in offices. You can trust. But the talent we're okay. The officers. This some good folks out there this good agents in good bear out. You know, what it is man? It's just fucking hard. Imagine how hard it is. And you know, hard it is to make it in entertainment as a performer, you know, your path how fucking difficult for everybody. Now, imagine you have to rely on other people performing, and you have to pick the winners figure out who's who's going to work for you bunch of addicts and MO's intern that a tablet like, we're we're I know I give my managers headaches three days. God bless your soul. I know. I do I I really like my friend today was with me. He's a promoter Eric meal. Also when I met him we were doing a show we were booked to do a show me and another artists. Well, the other artists contract and say pay regardless my pay regardless so after show with my fucking money. And everyone's like what what what are you talking about? You don't get paid fucking money or I think it may have been before like, I'm not going on and e. Ends up statue in another office. Look I want to fucking pay. You don't tell the other fucking guy. Oh, jeez. Has it? And that's how we became friends. I took my mind. Like, I didn't get paid talked shit about them in front of the other guy. Like now know what the fuck made you how. But thank you. We've been friends tell when he called me and said you're going to Joe Rogan experience. I'm like you're coming with me. That's larry. Yeah. Those sketchy gigs we not sure if you're going to get paid annuls of the business that Chipman, you know, it's like. You know, it's like me and TI playing Montgomery Alabama in two thousand three. Circuit while it's fun. The chitlins is fine. I would advise anyone who who likes like, you know, you like street rap to get to the south and get to one of those small clubs with the antibodies accepted and just go wash those kids as they grow up. You're going to see some Halifa shells. Now, how does a manager fine rapper? How does like an agent fund rapper? How does that work? It works. A lot of the local shows. Yeah. Local shows I will say like in Atlanta. Meech and key who both management. They're management for twenty one savage. They've been on the Atlanta seen for years cultivating young talent. Whether it was gripped plas-, please to to to nine which was another group out of Atlanta. And all these kids were dull some worked out some Ditton on group that gripped out of cancer. Unfortunately to nine members went their separate ways was still are making music. But then they found the kid and Twenty-one they managed to help get to the next by towing. Congrats to twenty one had a number one album a couple of weeks, but management usually comes from a group of people who care and just just want to see someone fan of be treated well in the industry. So I really applaud music managers because like you say placing your your own fading your own hands is one thing place in the fate of an emotional addict. Which a lot of times the ad can be including myself. Oh shit. Coaster ride. That's a hard job this distress of other people performing brutal. Yeah. My my publicist, God bless her soul. I thought I thought killed her a couple of times this year. You know, she might have come from. I'm are conserved one of two publicists white women and Catherine who's done a lot of music publishing. And then when I start talking about topics have a black woman and Jennifer farmer, who's a great publicist, but she's also a publicist for like former Senator of Ohio Nino, Nina Turner, and mega church pastors. So she does she's helping me keep my image clean. But she doesn't want me getting on television talking about doing cocaine and smoking joints. And I don't care if I go to club do cO, and she says, you can see your face sake behind God. Churches are calling their like this guy supports AR fifteen. Thank you Jennifer for for tolerating each put. She's got understand that. That's also part of why people like you. Yes. She does it, you know, it's just it's just something to deal idea where. I get it. I wouldn't want to be. But you have to do what you do. That's part of what makes you fun. Absolutely. You know, what they're going to get what what what it is no filter. Yea man, you got somebody has to somebody has to shake the box a little bit. Somebody has to be the kid. That's willing poke the hornet's nest just to see how many of flour. Yeah. My two of my greatest heroes when black people use you talk about heroes, right? We talk about Martin Malcolm lives. Muhammad. Mario Marcus Garvey. But two of my biggest heroes coming up were Luther Campbell? Larry flynn. Because in my lifetime. I saw Luther Campbell and Larry Flint fight the government on behalf of the American people's right to say, whatever they wanted to say so at the same time in my formative years, I was learning to love the Bill of rights to preamble when you say constitution constitution. I got a chance to see people fight for my right? And I couldn't wait to be a rapper just soccer curse. And by my titty books. And those people have shaped my life in terms of love of freedom and liberties as much as Thurgood Marshall as much as as much as Barbara Jordan as much as a Shirley Chisholm. So for me who I am as needed. You know, I remember one of my friends say, Mike, I liked the fact you talk on social issues, but why do you always feel necessarily talk about smoking weed in strip clubs. I'd say because that's what I really do. And I never want someone to be able to from the other side to say don't like this guy because he smokes marijuana go to strip clubs. I want whoever they say that to say year, and he goes with his wife and they smoke together. I don't want it to be. Secret. Keep I want people understand that when I want you to be free. I don't want you to be free to agree to see the world the way I do I want you to be free to live as you would like to live a long as it doesn't a fringe on me enough. That's supposed to be what this is all about the supposed to what this country's all about. Yeah. In high school. Well, the Luther Campbell thing was so strange because it was at one area in Florida, right where they had trick breath blasphemy laws. They've tried porn stars there before he tried some male porn stars doing some really fucked up videos. They tried him down there for for obscenity and they had locked up. They, you know, it's very conservative. And they just decided that the two live crew was just too much. They're drawing a line in the sand. Huge. But it was it's a crazy thing to do and something's very popular. Yeah. But they also make examples out of the popular. I just found out what the what the the monkey on a stick thing with apparently monkeys and while out so farmers will kill one lucky and put his head on six. Oh, hey, this is dangerous to do. Right. So essentially famous people we meet you Campbell Lenny Bruce, riding Dangerfield, Andrew dice, clay, Richard Pryor, anywhere. What you become is something to. To symbolize what will happen? If you dare step out of line of social order. So you your head being on a stick is is less about actually charging you for crimes and more about keeping the rest of the public and fears lynching a lot of times, we don't want to say that. But it it really is. You know what I mean? So do you think they see something like two live crew come up never had a rap and like any kind of ban like to live their word. What's next? In the bud L snippet, and I put the head on a stick put the head on state right there in the yard. And thank God. Luke falk. I can remember channel two or five ABC or CBS. And they were they were getting off the plane and my town. I'm a kid watching this twelve thirteen years old. And the news report is just went TMZ style. Just put it in their face. And I can remember brother marquees just pulling up a playboy magazine titties being right there on the screen. Yes. Because it's lot of TA and report albums dropped the camera trying to get it out. But that's what that's what made me love United States constitution. When in matters of freedom of speech. I got a chance to see it fought for an exercised right there before me is. I was learning about these an interesting that really will work concern with two visuals not concerned with what people write down with. We're concerned with what people say, but we're not like he you could write that in a book, and no one could write his lyrics in a book. And no one would get mad at that book. Something about them saying. That and people singing along to it people. Like, we gotta we gotta stop civilizations falling apart. We got to stop this. Yeah. I mean, you know, songs vibrations humming. Meditation your home, you know, that rhythm changes thing. It opens your mind clears you know, what I mean? Headed not headed not been for an artist. Like little Kim. Would you have been the way you have? Now. Would you have women gladly celebrating their sexuality embodies? If it wasn't for her. She never gets the credit. Do you think people know how extravagant she was in her time? I think she doesn't get the credit. She deserves. I think women know that it became safe for them to be sexually aggressive in free because of the women that were coming of agent and our time, but I don't think in retrospect because wraps young only forty five forty six years old. I don't think that I just think it's getting to the point where we appreciate what we what we've accomplished. So a little Kim is going to become more celebrated as years go on her Trina Kaya Joyce, boss. Like, so many hip hop has been a very fair game. The women are very long time. You know, whether people want to know it or not, you know, you have you've always had a caller response. Records and hip hop. I get on there and the baddest motherfucker in the world, and then a girl pops up now motherfucker on bad. Dell's records have been around forever. So they've always promoted equality within because it made money it made sense and women with the audience. It's pretty amazing that hip hop is really only forty something years old stop and think about that. It's one of the primary sources of music in the world. And if you think about how many songs are being published how many songs people are listening to and enjoying right now. How many of those are rap fuck a giant number Matt if he'd look at the whole country right now and just a little light goes off when the wraps on this plan. And if you listen to willow, walk Julia, willow, orcas says, the rest of the country music is just biding rap and and acting like they are. So I think it was a little bit of that. But I think at one point in time, it was a little that a lot of rappers would look at guys like Waylon Jennings, and Johnny cash and old school gangster country guys outlaw country is way different from I love outlaw country. You can't tell me Waylon Jennings. Kris Kristofferson Willie Nelson. Johnny cash aren't kicking. Like, that's what. What the fuck right? But that's not the same. As you allocating Anneli beat the your song talking about cowboy boots and said Air Force One not the same. There's something about the Allman brothers midnight rider. Yeah. And you know, whipping pulsed as radically different than you just singing about your Ford in rafting on that day. I don't think people even understand tied to the whipping post. You can't fake that song when they came at me about the NRA interview last year every day, I smoked a joint woke up and laughed and listen to that wreck like every single day. I just wanted you guys know it didn't bother me any my wife just told me to shut up talking to you all we went shooting a lot more and we play on and brothers whipping post every morning because I had to remind myself that this is normal. They were being done like this publicly because you disagreeing with the system that people have agreed to that. You don't agree to and it's okay, not to agree. So armee brothers really got me through that segment and stopped me from punch and a lot of bourgeoisie people in the face. Well, you're a proponent of your your right to carry a gun lover nine states constitution as a whole of all our rights in amendments. But in particular, you know, the first and second amendment rights matter to me as an African American and as an American first foremost African American I've only been free fifty five years. My parents were born in apartheid. And as an American. We are we are a country that broke off from what we felt like with the tyranny of unmown ARCHE, and we did that because farmers and guns dare to wage guerrilla warfare against at that time when the largest armies and navies in the world so honor that by continuing to be in the spirit of host farmers in the continuance of Crispus addicts the first person to down American revolution was a black man. You know? So for me, I would dishonor those patriots who started this country and Chris's addicts out with dishonor lineage is an African American whose only fifty five years in the freedom by giving government gun. That's not something. I believe. That government is people part of the problem with giving government anything is that they're just people. They're not something special. Not flawless. Absolutely give people power over you. They will this is not saying we should stop by guns and point them at the government. If people have guns, it's way harder to just take over the absolute that should happens all the time and other countries out does happen. Absolutely people get occupied. In governments turn on them. Governments change the rules and places that we're democracies are no longer. So that's real. And we're never far from it is safe. Is you feel you're never far from? I think what we need more of is people like you that are that are a reasonable very educated in the matter articulate person who comes from a place where they don't expect that argument to come from understand, you know, like, you think about left wing people or democratic people progressive people, you always think, you know, you think about democratic people overwhelmingly being appreciated by the black community, and you always associate them with being anti-gun. Yeah. That's a common thing. So when a guy like you steps out and says, no, no, I think it's a disservice to take this right away. Absolutely. If I didn't support it invite for it. I've been I've been in African Aircon forty forty years. Now, I have known Democrats primarily my entire life. I'm from the south in particular southeast. Alabama, Georgia, Florida. I have never known a black male democrat that was working class at did not own a weapon net that I'm going to follow the examples of my grandfather. I'm not gonna listen to the national party in their rhetoric about the arm and the population. I think obviously, we could agree that we would all love it. If we never needed guns. Yeah. Of course, of course, who wouldn't. I'd rather not need it and be prepared be prepared. Sure, right better to have it not to need it need, it not to have it and part of the country. I'm from and what you do often. Like, I'm from part of the country grew up fishing, hunt and growing food. My sister girls who don't get two hundred regularly now still fish occasionally shots out to Greg street. When our biggest chase down. There is a great fisherman. Right. But this is this normal in my part of the country as not having straws and being able to smoke in public places like LA is it just it's not that big of a deal. In my in my mind, state household should have five right? You should have a revolver shove a semiautomatic for if you and your wife carrying out in public shotgun. Just because there's a great all around going to have whether it's burglars or you know, you should have both action rival some case got to kill you meet you should have a semi automatic rifleman defend against here. And you're just a fuck off on Sundays and show your homeboys was dick Baker. What you what you should not do is give up your, right? Oh, yeah. Or use them on people. That's the thing about using them on people is that it's so rare, but so horrific and so so common for something. That's so horrific and everybody's against it. But I don't. I don't understand how you would ever by taking guns. I mean, you'd have to take all the guns away to stop that from half. But how you going to do how do that criminals are going to of course on? So there's no way the regular people should probably not do that. That's that's where it gets squirrelly. It's like how are you going to get those guns criminals? You're not going to you're not. Joke. What we can do though. And I will say is an owner you get lazy. Sometimes you don't train enough? We should try and more. And that doesn't mean, you know, we'll try to be quickest draw you practice. But what you want to do is make sure you know, what you're doing your weapon makes you clean your weapon. Make sure you're not a store you weapon, and I took my son and my nephew shooting about to start taking my eleven year old girl Michael shooting because I want them to know what they do if they see a gun. So we've already went through. What do you do if you somewhere you see how do you? How do you get out of this situation? Get other kids out of that situation. And let them don't know. All that comes with it. You know, and the strange thing to me is that my mother when she was in high school was actually taught how to shoot a rifle right because the NRA which is now vilified and hated for for reasons some deservedly sell some not they used to have big programs in public schools to make sure that children new firearms safety. So my mother school and other schools benefited from that, I don't care if it was just that sheet of paper that told you gun safety before you went and range that was just a piece of propaganda. They did that was better for the overall public. So I tend to say as Americans we've gotten away from stuff like trades in school we've gotten away. From different options. Besides funneling our kids in the college debt, and we've also gotten away from basic training such as balancing a checkbook basic home economics how to make lasagna at home by yourself and stuff like gun gun gun shooting. And archery, I think that if those things return to public school, you get a safer more confident student body, you get a reduction on things like bullying and bullshit. You get an increase on self-propelled interests of children and you start to me to grow scholars excel. But do you do do you really how is it going to stop bullying just by knowing that more kids know how to use guns? No boxing class stops billion, Pepsi said that no one wants to fight somebody's gonna fight back. I think you're right. I think for sure martial arts. I know wrestling does it one thing that can do those make people more aggressive initially a lot of people just getting into it. And learn that fight parts like blue belt mentality. That's why you get what you're homeys though, you go with your homie. So you and your home, which is being the shit out of each other. And you're not picking on kid at lunch like me would experiment. Remember six. The thing is though man you get hurt each other a horrible video. Did you see the one that? Who put it up? It was a one of those fight breakdown videos, Robin black. Yes, it was Robin black to Steve's they get into fight one. Steve Cao's the other Steve it's fucked up to do to boxing gloves on their friends and one of them knew how to fight a little bit. And the other one didn't know how to fight it all amount. They'll do that to your head bounces off the floor. I think martial arts in general is great for kids to stop bullying because you don't you don't have to worry and this shit, but this kid and the blue has no idea he's doing that guy leans in with a jab. We'll get this plant. Oh that is. So fucked up is so obvious that mommy to sleep. He knows how to fight like even when he threw a jab. He leaned in on that jab. That was less that guy is a real asshole have really needed that punch. That's a fucked up thing to do to your buddy. Like, we got this kid leans in. That kid knows that a jab that's a real job here com. Awful next snap lights vowed to go. That's bad for you kids and Boba black good timing there to kid drops it and did you see what I put on my issue. You know was a kid who looked like he was more of a boxer than kung FU guy. It looks like oh, I did see. Yeah. Side kicked him in. It wasn't wasn't chest. It felt like he hit chest to teach them. I have to look. Got him in the look at this. I thought he got him in like the neck area. I think it's a little bit high chest. Yeah. But but if the shit out of them, and then he smiled have had it on his front leg psychic. Why? Smooth. That's one of my favorite moves. There's a big people never see a just a great kick to the gut common and getting the fuck out. Let me get out of here. That's how you get out of those chitchat circuit clubs when the whole club is trying to kill you. How many of those situations there have been in a three two or two? It was our fought me. And my crew really and to we were just in the middle some bullshit. We know what's going on. We had to get out of that club. You know what I mean? Yeah. That that's that's that's the only thing about the Chilton surrogate fun times, great groupies bags the money, but you could die too. Now, how do you guys start out you start out like zero open mic night or something? If a guy wants to become a rapper. How do you get going? I'm from the underground rap scene in that. I like these rap I like that or app that type stuff coming up. So I was more of the open Mike seen. I got to hang around the older guys. Mccoo guys the drug dealers wrap about street stuff. Right. Whereas you take like a TI. He was always interested love music and stuff, but tit was a trap rapper from the start. You know, he he was entertaining for the street. So he needs to go to fucking open mic. He just needed to be opened up on a Mike and then allowed the greater pub. Excuse me. I talk about him in big because there are two of my best friends. So I know I got politic. Licensed to talk about those guys don't really tread lightly with other rappers you never know. So there's no need for him to do open mics as much as just find someone who believed in him, and that was KP LA re DJ tune and gave him platform to create the Jaro now known as trap music me. I came up more of out of the battle rap scene out of the go show. You where's kind of like a comic you get up in front of everybody. Do your shit. See what works go home readjusts come back next week. So when you do like a battle rap thing we sign up. Those days just threw you in the pit. Yeah. I yeah. You show up. I got my name. My name, my nickname, Scott, right? My nickname wiscon- or my family called me. Michael. My friends were the unruly scholars and those guys were just east. Coast rap one was from Connecticut and one South Carolina's families from New York raptor ass off. They were like rock and big daddy came and saying group, they defeated a lot of guys may better records. And then one day they would think how green lights where people play their music, and then they'd be battling each other my home income in man, you could just everybody who you thought was the homeys shitting on them. I'm like what the fuck is my home and my manager Raji McGee who I just seen like a couple of weeks ago. He was the person that kind of pulled me out of knocking around in the track trying to be a petty drug dealer into a studio, and he was the first person to say, oh, this could really wrap like fuck that shit. I know he steals cars and. And. I mean, and he rides around to rest shit with his Rachid friends, but he can really wrap. Let's get them in. So he was the guy that start bringing me in. So it offended me. They were talking about my friend like this star fucking off with their heads, paddle, wrapping them. And a man they double d called me killer that nice his kids are killer. Mike's a killer. And that's how I got the name killer. Mike. What a great story. So the battle rap scene. You would just get tossed into a pit, and how much time would you get this in the nine? This isn't like former better app now like battle rappers involved like boxing now by what I'm talking about essentially cockfighting. So, but like when you would battle up there would be no no time limit. You just went just went and till you won the crowd or the other guy shut the fuck up and walked away with this. What was a long battle ramp man dyke debt night. Those guys were still I literally took out four and five and six and those guys were still trying to come at me before who was fucking built like you. When when when we were children and mean was as obvious knock you the fuck out just told everybody shut the fuck up this one. So I decided all right. These spoken. You know, what I'm saying double d gave me my gave me my Romney gets heated. I've watched a bunch of online dudes get in each other's faces men. My my my my deejay deejay tracks Dr keeps me up with the battle scene. And I couldn't do it like as an old around just saying. Myself. Like, yo how just how to fall somebody like straight to fuck up. They meant it's the disrespect is amazing amazing. It's a martial art of sorts. It's a mental martial art. The ability to stay self disciplined enough, not to while out the ability to give and take it. You know what I'm saying? It's an art if you ever seen roast battle, no roast battles with doing stand up comics with the same principle, they go will they prepare for it like sometimes like weeks out, and they tell them who they're going to be battling against they write a bunch of jokes about each other and just shit all over each other ruthless joke writing it's on comedy central Rickles worthy shit, ruthless shit. That's roussel. That's what comedy should be. It is that it's a rare place that one spot where they're doing it like that the roast battle is a rare place because it's like pure joke writing and fucking meanness. I gotta check that. That's what we call Johnson in the south. Joe Elliott, Johnny. I may shit out of you like, that's when you just you just is roofless. Are you saying jawline zoning Joan? Chani joning Joan the lady Joan, but it's been I think it's spelled J O E not. Okay. John jones. Yeah. Yeah. And they call it John. I in this parts like I think they call it that in DC too. But cap in some other places was called John in the psalm number. They Joan just talking about each other. Yeah. With comics. It's really is a a martial art because you've got to keep it together. Whether it's person just ruthlessly shitting on your appearance and your life and ex relationships and divorces, I mean, people are rules such is life man is real. Yeah. I gotta give out to my friend who's a comic divall number one record that smile record. Duval is one of those guys where man he's to say some shit till you man, it's going nuts. He, you know, he hit you. I mean, he he's he's about this high. But his fucking ego is big and he's really good at talking shit. So I've heard him destroy some rooms he style bender who was like one of the best fighters in the UFC came out to that came out the song. Smile bitch. That's a great fun. I'm very proud of my friend. It's a great fucking song snoop jumps on. Style bender as he's getting ready to go into the gun. He was dancing was dancing to the song. And then he got inside. He was dancing having a good time. And then once the fight started that I don't know if you've ever seen him fight. He's in the matrix. He's on another level like spectacular striker, his kid them. I haven't lightning fast incredible timing. He's got creativity. He's loose in there. He gives you looks. You don't know what the fuck is happening blam head kicked. He's phenomenal. He's one of the best in the world right now up and coming. He came out. Checking about Israel at Assan. Yeah. Israel, one of the best is fucking. If you love technique you love watching that guy him. I liked silver for. Well, Anderson Sylvan hammer fighting oh shit. Yeah. Sort of house. He's forty years old. I believe shit. Yeah. It's probably one of his last fights. Say how do you think I should be before they thought, well, you know, Anderson is not a guy who engaged entrench warfare. He always fought, very smart. He didn't really take the kind of beatings that. Maybe a lot of guys that fought as long as him took. He's very technical. Yeah. Very good at avoiding getting hit. I mean, he's been hit it's unavoidable. He's fighting the best in the world continually. He got hit. He got dropped by a couple of people. But it's not like most guys most guys that get to his amount of time in they're going to get hit way more. He doesn't mean his face looks exactly the same. It looks perfect. He doesn't have a messed up face. It. All you think about that guy. The fact that he fought the best of the best forever and his thank his face isn't fucked up. I mean, that's all you need to know his face. Flawless car without about Floyd. Like people hating, Florida. Just like yeoman defense is a part of vox to man, the ability not to get hit as a talent. Not a lot of people have to. It's a part of everything. Yeah. It's part of life. But it's a part of jujitsu. It's giant Hickson gracie's number one principal. He's like, I defend. I'm always safe. No matter what always safe always say. Always you can't do shit with them. There's certain guys that allow you one of them. He would allow black belts to take his back and put it a full rear naked choke with the hooks in and they would start from there start from the closing sequence. You're going to sleep. Exactly. And he would get out and do contam- them. From the Joe to whiz whiz with gleefully cousin breathe shot the breeze. Breeze. Got into two in his brought whiz into it. And it's now shamed me into going to. So at some pop up in gym. I gotta get you and Joey as in jujitsu class the greatest thing on the shoulder. I gotta finish having care. It's going to clear me win shoulder. Rotator cuff surgery are both shown Jesus. But I can do this again. Okay. You can grab you doing those elastic band. Did those this morning wiz? Put on a ton of muscle. Does. There's a photo of him pre and post Rulli impress. I would not wanna Fogel with Khalifa rhino. He's not just a thin tall. Kid. Ken, shredding is is absolutely ridiculous. Give kicks and take your bitch. At this point. Have you seen his apps? There's huge get that. They're not just the not just ripped. I'm going to stop slobbering soon. They're not just rip their big how much power from skinny too big though versus me, whereas tons of muscle under here, but got to lose a lot of Chevy to see baby. Your legs carrying around all that weight. You always thought if someone could lose weight once they're really heavy. They would have an advantage of their legs. The legs are constantly used to moving around with much more weight. Now, all of a sudden, they don't have that way. So like you've been backpack training the difference. Well, that's not as good a difference. Hard to tell a big difference. Still a difference for sure. My friend. He goes to that place in in Hollywood, Jay's place. Performance of what is it? Call on breakable. The place is the shit supposedly so semi private place and be going there like chocolate Dell's working out, and that makes sense because whiz like really rich. Yeah. In the black community. He's like why people richest what we call. He's a very high level right now. Yeah, I like with well if you did that your body works hard while I'm doing I'm doing a slower I need to pick up the pace go full ninety days. I you say, but I feel a lot better. I just did a sucking samples running commercial. I felt like the king of the world. Did you? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I've been working out miss. Shouts out to our clayborn from play more fix now form professional bodybuilder teach them account how to retrain my brain. And when I'm not being lazy and really on it feel great sweat today. So you don't regret today? The good thing about it Toos with a guy like you. If you continue continue to lose weight and get healthier you're going to inspire other people to do the same thing people that are your fans that go fuck, man. I I want to get my shit together. Because what you don't want to do is get rich died have some young wiz Khalifa like fucking on your wife. That's my daily mantra. That's a good hat red hair. Why and I don't wanna die all my money go to some young Stettin and like fucking honor. Instead would like. Yeah. Man, you want to have more energy. Fuck it. You can do it. Yeah. No doubt. No doubt. But what you said is true. Get up sugar's out to flowers, eat some meat and grain shit. That's it keep moving. Yup. Yup. As much as ever use one of those fitbit's or any of those things. Do watch ma'am, ma'am. My main from Nike game and watch it. I got a good real good. They they'll it gives him a number. So you look at the numbers, and you get the metric of how hard you work. Yeah. I like that one that we were doing with the focus called again, the one that we did for the. Yeah. I'm trying to convince my zone trying to convince my wife that having threesomes and foursomes like circuit training did is. She hasn't went for it. Yet is definitely a hormonal build up going in the room. I'm going forward of trying trying to I think next season all the trigger. Warning. That's what I'm going to do. I'm going to try to start a polygamist compound based on cross fit man that never goes. Right. Is anybody ever pulled off a compound? Yeah. Yes. Few people quiet, quiet people pull it on. When you start to realize that your uncle your aunt in her best friend, uncle best friend like oh shit. I don't have to is. Yeah. But, but if you're get loud about it is it's going to go right because people know about it by the time, they know about it's already gone bad. Right. So the might be a lot of them laughing at us right now. We know how to do it. Yeah. Exactly. We just keep shit together. And don't tell everybody just stay low. Did you see wild wild country? I did not see well. Bought a town. They they took over a town hall cult. They just started importing people. They brought him in on buses shut. They took over a town. Yeah. These what was his name. I forget the guy's name. I forget was an Indian guys. Say it again into the mic rajini. Yeah. Hit another name though. They make ten something up there. I think I may have seen part of this high three in the morning. I don't remember what the fuck they were doing for jobs. I was just paying attention to how they got these people in there. They took homeless people in the ship them out there and buses. So they could vote from the town gave them jobs and identities. And these people were extremely happy. That was crazy. I'm sure some of them were troubled, but for a lot of them, they finally had a sense of purpose. They just been taken into this place as family, so they made Utah. They basically made a town. I've always this is I did see part of this movie gate at three in the morning. Like, oh, why is it that white hippie like people trust Brown people with beard so much? Well, they want to believe in enlightenment, and in all the media portrayals of enlightenment, all of you know, when people talk about mystical experiences had in India is always that part of the world that emphasizes spirituality, and the idea that the Hindu religion is a is a. More ancient more calm. You ritual. Religion the Indian Yogi figure is the white Jesus figure one hundred percents for why people who don't know why Jesus in the black community is a mythical creature that has enormous power. Right. It's insane. For anyone to believe in a deity that doesn't look like them. But in the black community, we're just in love at renaissance paintings. And Jesus is why fuck all right. So we have the save infatuation that you're weird hippie aunt has with Indian men with long beards and their mysticism. We have that why? So that you've just helped me understand why. Because I've always wondered like what the fuck is white people, and these people that because Vikram directed trigger warning also has a documentary where he creates a fake religion and convinces white middle-class people to follow that is a crazy one. The white cheese is one right? Why Jesus motherfucker like man, I'm gonna get me a shirt that says why? Eight people once they woke and what I mean that is western civilization. This is the latest phase like people have to understand there have been many empires until associations. There was a time where Molly in Africa and Kim and what the biggest civilizations and colonizers on later perjure biggest like you've had systems and right now the west has just for the last thousand years or so has been kicking dominating ask a lot of what we see on the news between the west and what we call the Middle East. Now, what was wanted western perjury? Western Asia, this thousands of years war. You know, you're hearing Islam versus Christianity. But it's really to ideologies that have been finding thousand years over how to globe should be governed. So with that shit, man. It's like there's no there's no stopping this shit. But why Jesus springs out of that and kind of goals, everywhere and colonizers everything? So, you know, the church pops up we candy for kids bibles for you. And by the way, we're going to be gone awhile. But we're gonna leave this guy here on the wall. So you know, what the ideal what Goslin look like got son looks like. Doobie brother since sodas guy. God looks like Jim Morris. Jim Morrison with a full beard. Fuck. Now while yeah. Jesus would probably attain guy with dark hair and curly, curly hair and Brown eyes. That was saying shit that the government in a church didn't like so they knocked them the fuck off. Why do you think that each race looks for someone of another race to be their adviser because I don't think people trust the divinity in themselves. I think I think that once you understand that is human beings, we really only look different because of subtle differences in atmosphere and change, and you know, who you mixed with win. But I think that all those books that are moms paid Oprah to sell us of self help. And we're looking Reverend I told my grandmother's generation Ed in the seventies. You know what I mean? And I think that we're scared to turn off the lights and at some point see something divine within ourselves because once you do that that requires you act differently. And I think that people need to be told what to do not that they actually need it. But they want to be instructed versus knowing or going on a gut feeling or experimenting again, something wrong. You know, my grandfather was one of the most kind moral men I've ever met. He was always gentle with children. He only put a belt on my but twice in my life and shit. I think he crying harder not say in at fourteen years old shot a man in church for kicking his bike down. He grew up in between fourteen fifty four when I was born. And he had experiences that he had learned to regret and he had dealt with that. And he had become something that by the time. I was a child, and he was raising me. My grandfather was divided in. My is almost you know, what I mean that because he was perfect because he was genuinely good and moral. But as the fourteen year old boy who had grown up fatherless who dropped out of school in the third grade in who who understood that I must protect my mothers and sisters. He refused to people by anyone even to the point of putting a bullet in you know, what I mean? So I think that a lot of times we're frayed to see that divinity ourselves also because you have to knowledge the darkness, and you have to deal with that and easier to get instructive by someone else. And it's easier to see the evil is outside too is easier to see that is something new. I can't control the just happens versus complying complicit in it. It's also a consequence of one of the things that bothers me the most when people talk about people that can make crimes or think about people that can make crimes so much of who a person is is a consequence of things that had nothing to do with them. Absolutely. They have been born in a terrible neighborhood to horrible parents been abused sexually and physically. And by the time, you get to them. They're broke their life is already a mess shambles. And for you to try to think that they are going to look at life and just figuring it out with no assistance whatsoever. It's crazy. Don't work like one of the weirdest things about our culture is that we haven't put more of an emphasis in finding the spots that are that are the ghettos and the terrible neighborhoods in this country and figuring out a way to build them up after this make it even we away we know unequivocably where jobs and commerce president and economic opportunity and prosperity occur. Desa dramatic reduction lemonade. Game. Yeah. We do not put resources into building institutions that will create entrepreneurs or work on a soft skill. So the kids can be working in and around production houses -tudios, we put them on the in the prisons, and then we use prison labor to undercut things like call centers things like that that jobs factories may need and we are doing a disservice by doing that. We always say we because we looked are quote unquote leaders in playing them when so many times we allow it. You know, we allow this to happen by not paying attention and not voting. We'll now it to happen by not raising our voice, even though we know someone in prison and saying this is wrong. You know, the last people I don't believe just for the record. I don't believe in the big three Abraham it religious not into them. But the books I've read in their amazing graphic novels. I can't read them like graphic novel of source. Right. And when you look at the people who Christ died with right? It will he was he was up. There thieves the last person he saved before he got out of here was a thief was a confessed was dying right next to him. And he was like, you know, we're going to go on this together. That's that's an amazing thing. So as you're serving your savior or messiah, you need to be thinking about who he spent his time with you know, he was with liars and thieves. He was in the street. He was with people who alleged to be prostitutes. And I think that if we start to turn our attention to those places, and we put our intentions in good there. We do produce on the on the other side better. But as long as we look at religion is something that makes us holy makes us clean washed us of our sans. And we become pious in that. I think religion will be something. That's forever. Kind of harmful it helped to create that. And I think that that that believing that some people are good evil doesn't allow us to say. Well, what could we do to fix those ghettos to fix depressed because for every ghetto where I'm from for every city in the south. I can show you mountainous region where the trailer park dishes is bad for sure. And those in those in those kisses our life better than Oxycontin addiction in turmoil in pain to you're right. One hundred percent one hundred percent, and I feel like there's money to be made doing it to fill jobs like. Feel. Yes, it's an ignored resource. Yes. Yes. My follow. Turbo. Cheeses follow kidney. Turbo. Jesus in Alabama. Anybody named turbo chips as turbo jeez. This kid. This is a mazy, man. He's I don't I'm not a big confederate flag. Just doesn't bother me as much. All right. Not saying that you had to pass just I've lived with it so long as it's kinda like. Did you shocked at all of a sudden it became a bad thing like with dukes of hazzard? And all that has I have pictures of me generally on a shirt, right? I'm not surprised because my thing is this how loss right? So you're flying losers flex just never really really bothered me. But as I got older to the drama and has been placed around it has been amazing. Because if I'm not going to change, Robert E Lee, the school's name, we're not going to really be able to change place. It's going to be here. The southern got is going to be there. But taro Jesus kid I saw following. So my natural assumption is typical retina kid hell talent, he can fix anything with the motor on it. He makes these amazing Qatada like source out of wrenches. Right. He's just an amazing kid, but I see him rallying against kids that uphold that flag and upholding anything that feels like racism and nationals, and it's just wanted to more most morally good kids I've ever seen running around. And he's an ally. He doesn't look like serial typically anything you would expect. But that's the great part of this to me, the great part of this country is you know, as as polar. Opposites as people try to make a you. And I here we are together as equals, you know, here we are together engaging one another as equals, and we don't look like one other from the same places, and I think that's just a whole bunch of opportunity in that. I think that there's money to be made in promoting versus promoting division in fear. So absolutely you should be there is money in helping children be better. There is if we're going to live in a capitalist system be a compassionate capitalist and be the best you possibly can. Because we need more of you. But just seems like some like in in terms of something that we think about as a civilization. We don't think about neighborhood rebuilding. No, it's not a primary concern. Even though one of the biggest problems, we have is with crime and violence. If you ask people, what's the two biggest things frayed of it's crime and violence, next car, accidents and cancer, and but crime and violence, you could severely mitigate monkey if you had all these community program, if you think about the amount of if I bet if they calculated out probably a wash the amount of money. Spend fix things versus the amount of money. You would save by not having as much crime Roxanne shontae, I saw her and I don't know shit. So I'm just guessing south eight anything is better than doing more prisons. Well, that's the scariest shit. We got going on the idea that someone's profiting off of putting people in cages, and that they also lobby to make sure that there's more laws on the books. I Larry King earlier today that I'd rather stop arguing over the second amendment with people that I should be arguing for amendment of the thirteenth. We should stop arguing over guns, and we should start to say why does that thirteenth amendment? Have a loophole that allows for slavery that says slavery is illegal except for. Yeah. It'd be pulled people have no idea how much prisoners get paid to work when they were working on the fires. Yes. What was I think it was two dollars or some fucking insane amount of money. They pay them. And when they get out of prison. They are not allowed to be firemen of Jesus Christ. Is that real? Yeah. Israel. Like because you're failing. Every crime forever for everyone. But. Can't be a fireman. I can't say any. But a lot of the guys I've known that have got out of prison have not been allowed to fail. Right. There's there's felonies felony drug selling California's paying inmates one dollar an hour. Holy shit. Not even two dollars your life is worth ninety nine pennies, plus one just stop and think about fighting fires for ten hours you make ten dollars. Now. That's insane. But is that not only that slavery that might be worse than slavery? Because. Ten dollars an hour isn't even going to buy food. That's less WalMart pays less money to work all day than you could feed yourself. This is the White House aide. That's what I try to tell people people talk. You it when I was coming on. Yeoman these guys in Allah. I appreciate you saying that because that's true. And it's not just black is is poor white people. I almost wish I can have a convention to say we got the same masters. They're saying this right here. More than two thousand. Volunteer inmate firefighters volunteered including fifty eight youth offenders are battling wildfire. Flames through California inmate firefighter serve a vital role. Clearing thick brush down to bare soil to stop the fire spread a wonder do they get better service for that? Do they get out earlier? No, they don't think nothing. I don't think. So I would hope do. But if we're paying a dollar, our what do we care, but we're like, we are the public should be up in arms about their obviously trust in those guys are not run too. Because when you're when you're chopping down bushes out there when there's a fire going I, but where where are you? Where are you going to go with nobody knows what the fuck is happening. It's chaos where you're gonna go where are you going to go? Do you want to go? And then when they get your shit dollar an hour. Just how insane is that. You know, something else we do in our prisoners as cruel and brutal. We put people in a box of twenty three hours a day. Yeah. Loud mouth for an hour to walk in space. Yeah. You drive him. Crazy. Yeah. Doing your fucking with their senses to the point where they're going crazy. Absolutely. Or they get solitaire. I have friends that have been solitaire talk to you about solitaire. And they're just there for themselves with your own mind day after day after day. I remember going to school suspension not being able to talk about to go fucking nuts after three. Marilyn being in stay correction when you're a little kid. You can't shut the fuck up for anything culture dollar used to tell us. Shut the camera dollar one thousand nine hundred five UCLA played play point guard for them when they won national championship. His dad was the culture high school. His dad was the basketball coach and he'd software in school. And I stayed in school man Newsday like a fuck player. I couldn't play any basketball. I'll just be sitting there, quiet. It'd be reading the paper just like can't wait to get the fuck out of here man co-starred and on let's say shit. Thank you. Not talking to anybody for just a couple of days. It'd be enough to drive you crazy. Imagine some people that have been locked in the whole for like eight months, they do that to people. They do they. I mean, didn't isn't that what they did to Chelsea Manning. Yeah. Yes. That's exactly what they did. I think. I forgot what her original name was. I as you know, it's not you might you might. Piece of shit. It's always been Chelsea. But yet she. I think they locked her in the whole for like ten months. Yeah. No talkin. Nobody just by yourself. Fuck. You by yourself as crazy. I mean, you could break someone's brain, easy, ease people's brain gets broken on a good edible on. I forty eight. Asi motherfuckers rang a broken fifteen minutes of cigarettes in one Honey bun. That's another reason. I'll tell kids don't commit crimes your home. You watch first forty eight you're going to see everything bad man for Newport. Yeah. To so many fucking crimes so many laws that don't don't need exist poverty. We end poverty, we fixed crime when a fuck load of it. That's sure still be sociopaths and greedy people that are going to have that before less than of opportunity like Robin moms of their purses station. Yeah. Carjacking. You're not gonna see stolen cars. You're not going to see burglaries on a see that. If you start to have an influx of you know, we'd need to bring a lot of stuff back to America. We didn't start making shit again. It's are buying shit. We make again, we need to we need to start refocusing on what we could be doing in house. I think you know, I think that would certainly help us. I don't know what we could do. To sort of promote that idea of. Why isn't it? It's nothing that ever gets discussed in any political discussion. Like when whenever there's some debates going on or whenever there's. Bam gender, but nobody ever thinks of that one aspect of our culture, the weakest aspect of our culture economically. We don't really consider it just look at it as a source of crime. It's a statistic centers as though is something that just is to be. But it doesn't have to be like, well, especially as we know history. Tell them show. That's all I'm really trying to say like there are other alternatives. Other ways to try this. And we could. Yeah. Can't you can try to fix homelessness without criminalising being homeless. Right. We know that most men that are homeless have some types of mental illnesses schizophrenia. So that means that we've broken down, and we're not taking care of the mentally ill in a way that we should be could be if you start to fix that you start to fix almost as we know that women and children, we know why they're on the street, and we know that if they're subsidized into these type of Ford -able housing apartments in the city, the kids have the opportunity to go to better schools to become better parts of society. Terms of having networks and resources. We know the mothers are closer to work can be home. But we don't do that we build cities. Like right now, we're developing Atlanta. And we've been promised a certain amount of of workspace in the city four working class people four people someone develop aren't doing what they say they do. And because you do that you start to increase the things that are blights on us. You know, we just have to be really committed to it. And do it now sit. And once we do it is done. But if we if we keep acting like it's not happening and complaining about poverty and crime and war and not doing anything. It's just a cycle. Never stops nasty on the insanity. I really don't understand your well. Everybody feels like somebody else's job. Everybody feels like. Yeah. And everybody feels like what you just got to get out of that neighborhood. Now. Roxanne Sean Tait talked about reinterpretation. She said she she doesn't want to hear people keep complaining about gentrification. When the kids that are leaving these neighborhoods, whether they saying dance rapper not or just Cokie jobs and Kobe decent human beings. You should be reentering your neighborhoods. You should be buying houses or pieces of land there. One of the most impressive things one of my favorite players John Stockton. And I don't know if it's true or not. But I read a story that he actually bought a house right on the street. I grew up in. So now seen that he'd go back essentially home with his kids, so they'd had some type of normalization to their life. We should be doing Tian have bought property together in the same neighborhood. We grew up in. We're developing things like restaurants and stuff I like to see more, athletes and rappers become the merchant and business class net weight, and I'd like to see people who grew up in move back to those neighborhoods. They grew up in like like, the typical icon of American dream. You can build a another eight thousand square foot in the back of the a frame house. If you want to, but you shouldn't be going to fifty sixty minutes outside the city in the complaining about the blight of the city because you took yourself away took the talent and the resources away. Do you think that everyone should feel that way though? Or is it I mean, do you feel like you have to be committed to the city that you grew up in or couldn't you want to just get the fuck out of there and go somewhere different nothing wrong with getting fuck out think you should go back and support. Yes. I tell kids in college. And they say, Mike, you know, what can we do kids in college? When you speak a college and say, well, what can we do kids want to check the world very easy fabricated in high school tutor that kit make sure they replace you at this university or another as it you're just replanning seen. If you grow food. You don't grow the same land year after year after year. Some you have to give that Lanta break retail it, you know, what I'm saying kind of like the neighborhood. So you don't have to stay in the same neighborhood your whole life. You don't have to feel like I never win anything or scape anywhere. But you do have to don't sell. Well, your mother's house. Read it to your cousin. You know, let your young assistant. But don't don't sell them. That piece of land was worked for the blood toil the soil. It means something and it should and and for working class people, especially it keeps your neighborhood and communities more like the ones that made you be a human being. So I think that there is something most people don't leave town up in a move to the other side. Are they moved to the suburbs from people people marry somebody? They knew you know, what I'm saying. My thing is make the best of it. Don't let it keep coming the worst. A man they Mr John my wife, and I own barbershops for people don't know we own these things called the washing room shops. We have one state farm arena. Whether the Atlanta Hawks play we have our flagship store on Edgewood avenue, Edgewood avenue was once an Auburn avenue. We're wants to centers of black Atlanta in terms of commerce and retail and money Atlanta life insurance company with you guys Google some of this stuff is big time shit. This isn't the narrative of we've never had nothing because that's not the truth in land was very rich. City for African Americans still is on this street used to be owned by African Americans the storefronts in their their children after these people doubt off sold the buildings and solar for and I know this because many Mr John who runs a grocery store. They're stopped me one day. He said, you know, Michael. After we are gone in this neighborhood has been gentrified and everything's different. They're gonna come along and say that why people stole this from us. And he said, it's not true. He say the children are the people that were here left, and they never came back because they didn't think what they parents Bill was good enough. Oh, man killed me. Because that is not just black people. That's Americans period. We have gotten to a point where we are unappreciative. We are entitled, and we don't think what happened before us was good enough. So we don't treasure it. We don't honor it. We don't reinvest in it that could be a farm in Milledgeville that could be a house in Adams Ville, but we have to do a better job of appreciating ourselves. Pre shade now community and in Capriccio. Now, greater community and you have to reenter you'd have to reenter fi that you have to be a part of whatever gentrification happens to make sure that your steak is still there, and what you care about from a morals and civil perspective represented there. My uncle uncle John Blackman, a huge influence on me dad and had a five car garage where where did transmissions and stuff, and I begged my aunt to sell it, please. I don't want you. I know they're gonna come the beltline. It's coming out of school. Please sell it to me. I didn't want my uncle's building. For today. To go to trainers in become an apartment complex with something. And I walked into your building building. And not say, wow. I know what I'm gonna do with it. Now, I've had it for like three years now, I just had it. But I'd never knew what I wanted to do. But you need somewhere to go every day, you're buildings impressive. I'm like, I'm just going to just make my Bill Michaels building, my office is right. And I figure out a way to make a lot of money off of it. I mean, I've already made a lot of money which leaving me to buy it. But it's important to me that is his neighborhood turns into hipster land because it's definitely going to be just going to be black chocolate hipster Stirland. I just wanted to make sure that there are still some chocolate working class in there. And sometimes they are going to go back hoffy. And there's going to be allowed ass muscle car and lots of marijuana smoke blowing out of it. So there are no that Markle's nephews still in town. Well, you've got a great combination of work ethic. A sense of community and business perspective. I don't have a business perspective ship. My wife. Your wife was doing it all what she taught seem to know what the fuck you're talking about. If you've got a pretty good roadmap. You know, I've zero that zero business perspective plant. Disciplined to go to the gym every day. I do I got. But I'm crazy. I'm going to try to silence demon forever. I man failing was the best thing that ever happened to me for I think for everybody not Qassam people get stuck at failure. And they become bitter, and they become NBS. They will come hateful at least how to mock. Yeah. They. Yeah. But. But you can be one of the best things that are happy team. Yeah. Failing and having to learn to become a business person. I'm very thankful for removed from the failure. Now, don't you think about you rap careers. Well, that's what saw from business perspective from aled at rat. I not a good rapper but outcaste records. My my first record that went gold at a time where we are the record was going ten million. It was it didn't work, right. Didn't work for me. So I had to go to Texas and people like chameleon Aaron Paul wall bun b zero slim thug traded truth, right? People like flip hump. These people taught me how to press up my own CD's, put them in the marketplace sell them at profit reinvest himself. They taught me that and selling drugs. They taught me to rudimentary fundamentals of business. And when I met my wife, I can remember dating two three four five little hot chicks and her just mentally being cut. Right, right. Freshman year college which is mentally. She was light years ahead of everyone. Because grandmother had raised her in that way. Remember a shot house right around like chitlins, circuit you go. Get a shot at two dollars Mondays because the south is we replaced. We didn't use to sell alcohol on Sunday. So my wife, I recognize have sharper, mind and me for business. What I had was good ideas for what was sale or what would be well in the marketplace. And what she had was discipline. You have any failures in your business practice gym. I I had a barber shop I wanted to kill every Barbara. Barbara's are like independent rappers. Everyone wants to be more famous than they need to be an Barbara's want to be famous Parvez like. Local famous artists. They've absolutely. Yeah. And they should be. You know what I mean? But with say man frustrating Barbara comes in when they like I want to wear glitter. Cape today, the next I want I want cut here in the nude. I want you to do it. And you like pro it doesn't it doesn't work like that like this. But I had to learn for us that the booth rent model like you pay rent does not make any more profit that knit. So we had to say what a super coast. Do. What is great clips? Did what oh you want it back a mission? And then you split that means they have to beat it. And and that's how we can learned business when we got to offer from the hawks to put our place in the space of the arena, and we want to be more Rina's. We started to understand. Okay. This is how you do business business. This is not just how you make two to four thousand dollars extra month. And that's just some good income pre to be enjoyed. But this is how you start to say, you know, more than a bright Barbara shot. This. The lifestyle and retail brand we happen to Barbara. But if you're a guy, I don't like going to the beauty shops or beauty stores to buy my brushes, or by my combs, or if you want to get a little gray out of your beard. You don't wanna be in Arek section of your local WalMart or your, hey, where do I get the grade from my beer because I want to get hot young you want to shop. So we develop products, we have cool stuff you can just buy right there. And we've learning to be business people, and hopefully, I would like to become the Chick-fil-A barbershops. I'd like for people to want to want to have us in their towns and pay us a lot of money to come. Well, it's a man's hang out to you say anything you want in no one judge. You can you can watch. Joe Rogan talk shit. Barbershops are uniquely masculine. They are like beauty shops are for girls girls can go into a beauty shop and get their nails done. And no there's not going to be any men there. They can talk all kinds of crazy shit. Yeah. It's one of the reasons why they like it yet and the women that do come to barber shops or some of the best shit talkers. So even they fit right. Yeah. That's what you know. Barbershop is exciting as one that has those two or three women customers data just prime shit. Talkers. How much if any you paying attention to things like crypto currencies DJ Vlad has taught me a lot about stocks so much to the point that I bought my wife thousands of dollars and socks Christmas. She cried she cried. When I when I showed it a wedding band because I never really got a winning and say, I really want, you know, showing them dedicating myself to you. And this is this is never coming up at the Soviet beginning of Christmas. She cried when I saw my wedding, man. And at the end, she cried when I say, I never want you to be fully dependent upon me feel that way. So here's a lot of stock and. She cried like a baby, I call it like this shoot. We're wrong. Recent, bro. Some learning about and I just put lots of money into s&p five hundred's. But I don't know a lot about cryptocurrency and stuff, I'm learning. How to have money fascinated by them? The idea of a decentralized economy because we're always the whole thing has always been about. The the amount of money that banks control, you just stop and think about what's what goes on with the Federal Reserve, and what goes on with all the money, and how much dollars worth overseas thousands of at all if there was something that we all rely on that wasn't controlled by gigantic group of people that have a vested interest in profiting off of this pile of money. It was some sort of a bitcoin like thing, it'd be a really different world really really different. It would it would. It'd be different to world was moneyless. It'd be different if there was a gold standard, again, it'd be a lot of differences. But the question becomes is the banking mafia of source ever going to let that happen? And what happened how could they stop it? Well, it's like stopping the internet at this point. So you think it's coming? You think we're going to get the crypto Kearns? I think it's eventually going to be what are we going to? It's going. It's going to be big. That's that's a question. Right. You can't throw coins and clubs. That's true. Yeah. What can you? Yeah. Yeah. Piece of paper that tell you how much change on your way. Have cash adds, bro. Bitcoin will become like dollar bills that will represent bitcoin lack Tele Bill with a gold like a shiny gold lettering. Mega shit ton of money. We'd be going. No, no, we made some of it for her fight for the forgotten charity. The build wells for the pygmies in the Congo, my friend, Justin Wren, he lives in the Congo for six months out of the year, building wells. And so for the forgotten. We raised we raised a bunch of money through this thing called the cash app time. Someone five dollars goes to fight for the forgotten. Gotcha. And we got some bitcoin we raised that went to them too. So wells got built because of that he's built I don't know. How many eighteen wells? They built for the pygmies and they're constantly building new ones because freshwater. Yeah, he's a fighter. He fights rebel Tories one of their top heavyweights dope. She and goes over to Africa and lives in the Congo. Pygmies? Fuck. Yeah. Man. He lives there in the. Village for months. He's gotten malaria three times almost died from it. Yes, dedication, he's one of the nicest people ever walked the face of the planet. That's fucking that. So did he do the malaria shaft and shit? And it's still catch me. I do not doing first trip to Africa next year. So as a black guy feel this important to catch malaria? That's him back there. Wow. They call them the big pygmy. That's amazing. Yeah. Nicest guy that's ever lived those are while the guy goes there for six months year. In the pitcher with him related to me. Yeah. It's pretty cool may get some great videos on fight for the forgotten test. Beautiful where you could see the wells being built in the water coming out. I gotta check that out. You send me too late. Yeah. For sure for sure. What are we talking about? How do we get up to this? Oh, we raise some money for him through bitcoins. Well, but I think that it's give me some advice. I don't know enough about it. I'm an idiot on anything on anything money related because you have an icon GPS. I know you have more money. I just work a lot that that will such grandfatherly true. That's the ship grandfather. Because I'm not a big. I'm not a big investor. Very smart. I got you. I have people handling that kind of stuff to work a lot. But I don't pay attention to anything. Yeah. I do too many things I've got myself to the place where I know exactly what I have to pay attention to what I don't don't have to pay attention to is just gone. Robert, my countless made it pretty easy for me. He literally a graph. This is a dollar you make this is what goes into savings is what goes into investment. This is what you in shape. We're investing and really say this is for retirement. So now everything that comes in. No. So it's like when they call us until you guys you guys got five hundred thousand dollar day. I just noted I'm not going to fifty because has management conditions. My wife and my counting already chopped. It should. Enough money about Camaro. Yeah. I don't like to think about that. I think about because I'm black and shit ain't been too good. If you view. Viewpoint black if you pour America's fucked up, if you pour in black America's fuck that would have deal during so miles should let me take care of my money because my grandpa, my grandmother's her family owned land. They started sharecroppers, but because they are land. She could she could become educated because they could sail the stuff they grew to stores and produce markets and stuff. So she name we're Methodist, so she got to go to school, my grandfather, smother owned, no land. So my grandfather had to work in a bread factory in cotton meals and shit. So I knew the difference between ownership, and, you know, the advantages of having something so it's something I can of obsess on because I don't want my children to endure poverty, and I and I grew up working class, you know, my wife, she jokes. But she says it a lot she's from housing projects in savannah in her grandmother and mother worked they were out of there. But you know, she says to me all the time he was spoiled. You know, you're a little risky as much. Like you had a fucking RV. I'm like I lived in a frame house. He's like, I don't care your grandpa your grandparents could afford to RV. You guys went on vacation, you're spoiled. So I understand money means a lot. And it doesn't mean everything to me. But it helps afford me to be able to take your children. I completely understand it. Want to give a shit like on a daily basis? I'm more like, you, just you. But you think about businesses starting businesses informed businesses. How do you have the time to do that and write and perform and all the other show that you do because enabled the businesses enabled me to enjoy writing their performing when I had to wrap when there was no choice. It wasn't as fun anymore. Because the pressure was am I going to chart cannot make this much will record versus if I have a couple of streams revenue coming in. You know, it makes it a little more relaxed, and my art is freer that way. Ooh. A like an answer. Does a great answer. That makes sense. That makes a lot of sense actually to free yourself up creatively. So that all you have to think about when you do in that you just doing what you wanna do. Yeah. Yeah. That's it man. That's deal. That's wise. That's the goal. Yeah. If I'm a lot of people talk a lot of shit about billionaires. They like it ain't going to be in there. There are tons of billionaires from the nerdy sexy. Bill Gates at the wild dope. Eccentric, sexy of airline must to the OJ of Warren Buffett and shit. I've liked Ted Turner as well. It was the guy who got nine got snookered out of six ended up with one or two. And it's like, I'm living my fucking life. Growing bison in good meat cowboy hat when my funky mustache. He's he was such. Owner of teams are sitting when he owned the teams he was a great man with TVS. He did a lot of good. He's if if a billion is the newest I want to be a billionaire, but we've had a lot of money as a standard. I'd like to be the quirky eccentric guy like Ted. He always seemed free to me. Yeah. Especially once got rid of Jane Fonda. When he married Jay founded a south where we literally it was made. It was like the city of Atlanta hair went back to gone with the wind was just amazing again, it was people were strutting around Jane Fonda, virtually first lady people start to. But she was a nice lady to the city. David Justice in Halle, Berry were interesting to. Interest in Sansom bastard. He us hands. One mother was it. What's the what's the yachting of anyone heat? Who's got in a yachting out of nowhere because Cup America's Cup? Was it was that? Right. Ted Turner live the life that Ralph Lauren puts on t shirt. Yeah. He looks like a billionaire and a movie to he does the great Gatsby type million. He does guy who's a wise billionaire brings you knew studying a scotch with them on ice, exactly explained shit. Do what the fuck chace out the Ted, man? I know you don't get your love a lot of the other guys cut. He does the fucking Montana grill. He's out there, chilling man Dowd it the population of bison. So he could cook them and eat them hit the fuck out of here. That's bad. Overalls respect, that's how my fucking grandfather dress with the same. That's what I want to be like when I think about making twenty one million escaping the game and shit. This me like maybe overall in a Braves cap, but this is it now let me ask you this. How far away from him or do with machine guns at all times? He's in fucking Montana habits. To kill ten who wants to wants to kill Ted Turner, get somebody, bro. No one wants to out of mantius two snipers. He probably has you probably sue snipers. Say east and west and he has one guy within a few feet of them. But very relaxed. I don't think has walking around like a Dhafi, you think you get to a certain Qaddafi. No more. He was hanging around with wrong. Dudes have. Have. The last video Qaddafi that is one of the most disturbing video in all of human history to see him realize that they got his over. And then that guy chums knife up his ass. He's barely even reacting to it. He's just he's in a state of shock. Stay of people who have not Asia and ease with the villains when we were young Gorbachev Qaddafi cashed all like when you start in. And I'm not saying, I agree or don't agree. I'm just saying they were gave get given to us as villains. I never could go out the way went out bad. We saw a couple of guys go out like that. But that was the craziest one that was him getting caught by rebels executing him on the spot. They didn't even wait didn't even wait 'til like fuck. Fuck this trial gonna kill this guy. Right now, they threw his body on the hood of the car and driving around fucking. Dear fucking, dear exactly. Research beat the shit out of him. It is it's a horrible van. His dad job is showing you can see his grey hairs. Yeah. A little bit little bit in the temple. Yeah. That's a well tarnish. Tarn is a billion. The most disturbing videos was Hillary Clinton laughing about him dying. You see that video. No, she's doing an interview. And she talking about Qaddafi. She goes we came. We saw he died. She started laughing because I guess thrones worthy that, sir. That's. My my friend called me this year. Alcoa's EJ swift my wife, tell me I need a husband more than we the world needs a martyr that and my friend calling me saying, you know, man, really, I just don't want. Nobody kill my friend that net really made me push it in perspective. Like, maybe I should keep singing and dance. Maybe you should try to Braveheart heart. Yeah. People definitely still get shot. Yeah. Fuck with anybody says there was a dude who was in Enron whistleblower Enron whistleblower who shot himself in the head twice. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. That kind of shit. Kind of shake that doesn't what in the fuck. Are you talking about? Did you ever read the strange death, Vince Foster, I have not a great book? Okay. It's about Vince Foster who is in cahoots with the Clintons shot himself. They when they found is by the gun still in his hand, which never happens guns. Fly out. There was less blood at the scene of the crime. Then was missing from his body. So the idea is that someone moved him someone put them there. Donovan shit freight Donovan shit. They did it for sure they did it. But before there was an internet. Oh, yeah. To do is Greece the right amount of people plan in place, and it's done. It's done. They did it forever. They did it through the Roman era. They did they did it in the beginning of time. People have been whacking people. I concur. Concur. A lot of people act as though those were again, like I say these empires that we're under have been thousands of years a corporation will change his name and go forward and something else. I honestly I'm going to at some point get was what her brother's name Romulus. And I forget the other brother who were suckled by the wolves. That was like to start the fairytale start of Rome. I'm going to get that as a as a pendant. It's going to be some I like artsy rap sheets. So I have like the winged victory of some multiples is my is is a piece avenue other piece that I'm getting that on the pendant. She wasn't Romulus. And we'll the other brothers remiss Ramos. It was Raymond said Rodman. So apparently, our society that we live in under. Now was the legend is Jamie set. We started by two brothers who were nursed at the two being abandoned where nurse by a wolf. So western society is built on that concept, and you're going to ask me to give up my fucking gun. The fuck outta you. Don't fuck out. What? Wolf to the wolf's got chainmail around its neck exists for ROY. I'm going to get that on a fucking pendant. It's going to be like this rapper big shit. That's a war wolf thing. Look at that's got its vitals protected. That's crazy. That's what that's what we're sitting in the middle up tease Geist Erica baby suckled from wolves from wolves. So what do you think the mentality? If people who run us Jesus law this I saw it in the Lou me, and my wife was stoned his fuck that's incredible walking through the loom. And I was just like stared at. What a freaky looking wolf to hungry and shit looks like a fucking hyena, actually. Yeah. It it doesn't look like, it's got wolf hair. Beautiful that that's an wolf ain't. But it's weird. They decide to make a bald wolf that's a bald wolf. Yes. I shaved. There's no hair on it. Anyway, show any hair who knows what the fuck wolves. Look like darn leader. Shave the hair to the rock. Yeah. That's true too. Yeah. It'd be hard to shave it. But still would have freaky idea. So that's what suckled off a wolf. And that's that's that's the mentality of the rest of the revenue Rome. Have you ever been have not been wrong? I went a couple of years ago for the first time. It's amazing stunning. Stunning antiquity as they call it. When you go to the Vatican, man, you walk around you realize how much these motherfuckers stole there is billions of dollars worth of art there. And you waited you get this, Honey. Business. What they're selling sneakers. Canyon bibles, and we're going to take all of this. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's interesting when you see Roman guys with little Dix the little thing they thought big Dicks were discussed like big Dicks were they were two savage and not civilized. They had little and these little statues. If you at these beautiful perfect bodies a little Dix and that was because they felt like big Dicks were gross. Oh, wow. How crazy that's what the guy at least the professor that was guiding us low, dude, you're in the wrong century. You missed it. Here. You just you're almost there. This thing is that want something that doesn't exist. Right. Because guy was built like that is going to have a hog on them. Those guys are those guys are fucking. Right. That's beautiful. You see Anthony Joshua step into the ring. That guy's got a gigantic day. He has to look at him. He's a fucking specimen. There's no way he has. With s it if you look at bodybuilding. Yeah. But that's a different animal. They're they're breaking their body's ability to perform. Dostram? They're nuts shrinking fucked up. Yeah. It looks bad. I got a picture of Ronnie Coleman that I send them my friends every now and then just as a wakeup call. I save it on my phone. I send it I just want you to know that this is how big people can get. So why why you're lifting weights just keep everything in perspective and always know? Possible. Get one of them running me show, you the one that I got on my phone, Jamie. He just had back surgery game pres- run. I heard there's a documentary about him. That's on Netflix. I watch it. It was sad. Not sad. Like, you feel bad. Just like first of all amazing. He had that type of discipline. He was eating ten thousand calories. A day. He was training for one hour day doing full full training top to bottom because he was a the same time. And he was just a bull about it. It is. But would say, oh my God picture. Yeah. That's I can't. That's insane. That's insane. This is what J if you find that one. It's insane. And now and now here's his back is is savages betraying them. Well, he he apparently would lift so much weight. He's much smaller. Now, he would lift so much weight and worked out so much harder than anybody. Just look at this. I want to send this so people can get the one that we're looking at because it's so fucking free cycle. You see the picture that bull? Exactly. Yeah. They have. Something wrong with what is that miles Staten miles. Totten inhibitors mile Stanton is something that apparently regulates the muscle growth, and when these mile statin inhibitors when they do the happen accidentally dogs called whip. It's a win. Whip. It's get they have an anomaly that occurs. Pretty pretty rarely where they growed like double the muscle. They fucking look super jacked up. Yeah. Pull up one of those. Mile Staten lipids. Okay. Here's here's sure. Ronnie Coleman picture so everybody could see that's the one. We're looking at like what in the fuck Jesus. Those pitchers as you're a fag. I walked into a gym do more to disheartened you than I can't even. I can't even fucking. That's not happening. You would have to be on everything that science has ever twice did to put that kind of mass on mass, and you have to perfect genetics. You have to have everything you have to Jesus Christ. See if you can find those whip, it's the mile Staten whippet crazy looking doesn't even Louis a real dog. It looks like someone CGI like someone's fucking with it. It just made a real dog. There's they just have a weird anomaly genetic anomaly that makes them super fucking jacked like how we're here. I'm not. I I like pit bulls on like there it is. So that's real thought that was no it's real it's real there's a bunch of them. It happens in this community for some reason. I read something about what it is about breeding that somehow or another this, gene, this trait is more common in whip. It's than most other animals as crazy. I'd like the traditional style. Pit bull Pete from the little rats, right? Yeah. The new pit bull. The ones that are lower folk almost like the lowest as an English bulldog are over muscle. I always wonder how useful are they? Well, if they get a hold you fucked dam. Sure power is just insane. Yeah. Power that those things have is insane. But it's bad for. It's really when you get an animal like this. Yeah. It is supposed to have longer legs. So it can move good. Pit bulls. Bred for a couple reasons they were bred for purposes of fighting and purposes of bringing now BULLDOGS run along side of the ball grabbed the nose ring, Trumpcare weight flip essentially football. I'm just thinking to myself as we like the status of what they look like like, what are we really doing these little guys where they're fucking shit. But they're sure that sheet is hard to get up a pair of steps for they have such amazing qualities because the fact that game bread because the the ones that are that responded negatively to people that would growl at people or show aggression people they called them. So the ones that are real game dogs. Let's a little 35-pound males. Yeah. Those are the best dogs on the earth. Man. I've been trying to convince Schaefer was so nice. And I'm like, I just I'm like, I'm sorry. I can't do these other rappers and get a fucking a girl dog and act like this you already make me hold your fucking purse. Like these things thousands of fucking dollars. I shouldn't have board mate because you wanna fuck and walk around hold my purse. I have to go to Phoenix sky one of famous. I'm going to Phoenix sky home I fucking purse hold. Versus hilarious checkmate move that girls. Put on gun is in there, though. A little manly. But it's still a fucking Louis Vitton purse. But if I had a had a pit great great great pit. I just can't get a girl. You can get a little pit bull. And people won't even know. It's a pit bull. And they're nice. I told her about my oldest daughter's twenty one now, and we we had a we had a pit named coca Neier for some reason didn't not like sleeping in her bed or lane now Anaya with we would have to. And this is what I'm working like getting going to work at the fucking Vance outta parts. Her mom is in school in beauty schools, like we're tired. We're young two young have baby. We're beat the fuck up a nine when only sleep in her little rocker. This dog was sleep wreck under her in. If you're not mere her mother, you were not walking touching this child. And when my daughter was awake. She was her best friend. She ride like a horse. You could tell staying she do anything. But in her eyes her purpose in life was to make sure that show say people's big boy on pitfall kennels, his brother he and chains when they have a mazing. Yeah. There's a lot of those out there. There's a lot of great pit bulls out there. The only problem with pit bulls. They have an aggression towards other dogs. They do. Another dog around is likely going to scrap it got to be for me. I'm pro one or two like my thing is only have you should only have one or two have one. That's dedicated to you in the family who have two pits that are part of the family, and they understand who's a dominant news Obata. I had one pit that got from the pound and she'd been the pound for five months, she's an animal shelter. She was only eleven months to prison dog, basically, most of our life have been locked up in little cage and that dog. Buddy else wanted to get pet. She would get up to them and get the fuck out of here. She would show her teeth and growl. She want anybody getting pet but her with any other dogs tried to move into growl. Awesome out she'd box them out like check them like trying to pet one of the dogs. I should get right up in their found with them. They're like children they tantrum. Yeah. So if they get lonely, and they get lonely without you, and they miss you. Yeah. They'll do shit like just half the fucking sulfur. The lottery, and then you'll get your call them. You're looking for them, and they're like oh shit fucked up their hiding in the room and shit. Like, they are they're brilliant little fuckers. Ceelo had a bunch of grape his back in the days. I want to get people declaring that today with how that's happening songs. You're responsible owner train it. Well, make sure it doesn't get loose. And I don't believe in fighting dogs. No fuck that. They're they're skateboards to you got to be careful fuckers Clem offense climate. They're smart enough. Open gate. I've seen it run up a tree. My oldest daughter has a tiny little dog. And it's smart dogs. I've ever seen because it's a partial wa wa and part Australian shepherd dog I think, but it's the only talk I've ever had where it's Paul got caught on the leash and it lifted leg up and put it behind the behind the show. I'll never seen a dog do that dogs get that one arm fucked. Yeah. Looked at that one. Oh, this is shit. My and I looked at them like you little motherfucker smart. Little dude. My wife had Australian shepherd when I met her mufti. Aren't in dogs, Wallasey smart mar dog? Oh, yeah. It can be me. Yeah. Some prising the weirdest thing is that all those came from wolves everything came from wolf. Yeah. All of them. That's nuts. Every dog somehow. Say this some people in my community, but. And humans offer monkeys. So that was the words killer, Mike just listing. We definitely didn't pop up. Just like we are don't believe that. Anyway, what do you think happen? I don't know. I don't know what happened. But my wife says joking. You got to know my wife. She's she's very cool very down. Or if she's my best friend. She speaks Creole like accent. And she'll just say things blindly. I don't know whether it's fucking the Larry's, and she'll washing planning aches, and she says, you know. People get mad about it shit. We look at them. Human beings. Do look like monkeys. I mean, we probably would swing in the fuck around and understanding. To realizing the black community. That's an insult to even. And she's just because she's black us like a, man. She pointed the screen of this light. Yeah, we probably fall and people can have whatever debase they want to. I think that we act a lot just like, I think human beings arrogant because we think we can communicate and we can use tools to build shit. Basically. We're hairless apes and just because we can communicate doesn't mean we're communicating the right things animals live, in harmony with nature and a very different way they kill for hunger. Aids can't kill for reasons that a non hunger related and things, and they know that's a part of us. But I'm thinking, I think we've all from something that didn't necessarily look like us. Yeah. That may have swaying from tree we're the most advanced of the primates, but we characteristics that we can see in the lower primates. And if you pay attention to all the top scientists who have been studying human evolution. They're all pretty much agreement that there was something that we were all similar to the all branched off at a bunch of different ways to maize, and they keep finding new forms of people to us all. Destined Novi interstate that that's what it's called on the one from Russia. So do you do you think ailing is really pop down? Fuck the monkey and down nine months later, and a look that would be the most fun. Yeah. Funding. If a pit stop happened, and what was the movie that was really crappy not as good as it should have been aliens like precursor something show, the sensually. Anchalee where for me? It should have been very good at. But. Yeah, I think I think that that's the positive aliens were chick hanging out at the moon. So yo look the blue plants fucking go. See and say go monkey looks great. Fuck the shit out of it got out of there. And the next thing, you know, you have Warren pessimists violence, and poverty and. Joints. But one monkey that excel past way past all the other ones like one invention. The invent the ability to communicate and the Bill having opposable thumbs ability communicate and then start advancing soon. As started talking figuring out ways to express itself to each other. And then they start making things off to the races. The next thing, you know, a couple hundred thousand years later, the world's different. It's like this thing erupts, and then just covers the world, which is shit. And that's us. How do you subscribe to the theory that we just may be virus earth may be getting rid of us? Well, no, one would like to think that the reason you call a virus something it's just a word that's been assigned to a living organism in the system by by medical science. I mean, we all know what viruses. It's a real thing. It's amazing. These brilliant people discovered it and come up with vaccines to stop in prevent them. But it's a some sort of a life form, really sensually. Now, if we look. That the earth is being a living organism. We should shirt. It certainly could make an argument that it's a kind of life-form that it's a host of massive amount of life of all the life. You would think that maybe some of those things would not be in harmony, just like some of those things in human body, aren't in harmony got bacteria's off or you got a cold. There's bacteria in your body that you picked up from a fucking bathroom somewhere. Whatever yourself all that stuff could easily apply to how human beings interact with the earth. Are we the virus though? Got to look at some point earth is or the series. It's a living breathing organism. Here's what I can say for. Sure. Okay. We are the virus to the ocean because we don't. Think about it. That's life. Yeah. Before we were monkeys. Who was something that crawled out at the ocean? Right, right. The ocean. Was I don't know what it was like we are on one hundred stone. We're stone is. I don't know what the ocean was like a couple hundred thousand years ago before people really became what we are to to using people that figured out how to get out into the ocean and capture fish imagine. If you could see it imagine, if you could see an image of how many fucking fish were out there two hundred thousand years ago versus how many are now it's like they live next to a vampire that just keep sucking the life avid. I we've killed fifty percent of all life in the ocean. That's what I'm saying. We have to thank our sales at some point. You gotta say maybe the best thing. Human beings can do for the earth is to humanity. Maybe maybe viruses there for reason, maybe all needs to exist. The means to be some sort of a balance where we're trying to limit bad things. Maybe they do serve some sort of weird fuck and purpose. So even even in that we fire purposes, he'll is that's the talented humans, the just make logic out of us being here. Well. And the keep moving and make more of us this China make it to the moon. They grew cotton on the moon apparently already grew something in the moment at died died quickly. I I was happy that it was cotton. Because seeing as how they're the biggest investor in Africa in China was growing that didn't go well for black people five hundred years ago. So I was just like please don't let congress on the moon. I don't want the trans Atlantic slave trade. Learn Mandarin and shit. So. Do you day actually set up shop before us or as America's still number because it feels like I feel like we lost that day? We went China landed on the moon. Yeah. I feel like I feel like oh shit. I've grown up being you know, like, I'm black. I'm American, but I like I come here. Yeah. Exactly. I feel like we're like Frederick Douglass. When actually leave was answered the fuck only for when I say something like the moon landing China with the growing the plants landing there. What exactly was it was it what what was the kind of ship that they landed on the moon. I'm gonna put one on land on the dark side, though. Right on the side that we didn't make it just went. It was a drone, right? Is that what it was some sort of a drone? I think I honestly think about that as a win for science and for innovation. I don't think about in terms of nations because I feel like that is done by scientists that's done by the wizards. And the Joe so are you saying we're going to steal the scientists because when Kennedy gave the fucking speech Kennedy made it seem like the moon landing was gonna make us the preeminent nation. And I think that's the propaganda China's own you don't think. Well, I think they have some fucking amazing technology to deny that would be ridiculous. But I also think that it's important that everybody everybody be competitive in this. If you really want to make things better you're not going to you're not going to do that in a vacuum. What helps the technological innovation and one of the reasons why it's so accelerators? There's so many people working on it. It's not just a few people trying to make cell phones. Better talking so many geniuses out there. So when I see something like this. They landed on the moon, I go geniuses one. Yeah, they're people. But they're just people. We're all just people. Absolutely. You know, and the idea that they're going to all those people on that side to think the same way as what we're worried about. Right. The us versus them, and their technology is going to impact our way, we frame it country. Yeah. We always worry about that. You have to admit that. That's that's the way we frame. But if you look at the history of the world that's been that happened. So many times I think it makes sense to be worried about the rest of the world. I get it. I'm on I'm on this side of the fence so no pong with. But. Events. No if radar Tober is going to happen tomorrow. Fuck man, I think Russian zone hate us. I don't think anybody has a quarrel with anybody over there. It's the governments. It's the hustle is that the real interaction is between very small amount of people that involves all these are the people that are with them for some strange reason, I think they should just be thrown essentially in a stadium. The fight to the death. Who would be the king of the war? Fuck everybody him in that other. Do that runs? The other little country next door that was on. Yes. That guy is a huge supporter of fucking bad. Yeah. There's some peace over there. You know, bad. Putin would fuck up Trump Christ. You can't fight to the death with Putin. I would actually probably Putin versus Obama to for sure look bama's probably better in a debate poodles. Who are really that's what I'm saying. Like, a real Kim you'd have to go all the way. Bush of one was bad ass. Maybe a younger, man. You gotta have some killer. And yes, you know, we have to get all the way back to Kennedy in terms of physical prowess and his back was bad. I think you've got to go to ABRAHAM LINCOLN wrestling Lincoln. He was wiry farm farmer strength. He did wiry old dudes back then we got to carry everything. True. They didn't farm work was real work, air, harried, everything everywhere. So all those dudes are just wiry as he was a wrestler too. Yeah. Yeah. So he's he's beloved community. We like them a lot. I get it. Thank face. Did you see that stupid fucking movie they had him as a vampire slayer? Did you ever see that? No saw the trailer decided maybe that's not the one for me. That's a weird one. Once you have your kids on actually, go see. Jamie. Didn't you say it was based on a graphic novel? Yeah. So like a fun comic book that somebody made. And then they turned into a movie as a movie it was like so weird as graphic novel, probably work better. This some things that worked at staying. There were right? Like, there's some realize that movie though, who say that question. That's it. There's a fun movie. I mean, it was dumb and fun, man. But I'm just saying I liked who gets who gets that movie who who. The pitch ABRAHAM LINCOLN. He's gonna kill vampires. Ax. What what? They probably said another president. And they said who in a rally what's up tastes by Tim Burton? So I love that dude. He's wacky though. He stuff. Yeah. We'll see Beetlejuice to who. Else was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's so can we get a John fam-? So can we get another hardboiled or the killer that we get when was the last it's been a long time. And it's American although good were nothing like nothing like the foreign films. Yeah. Hyper-violent stylistically beautiful. Slow motion was used crazy him or Tarantino just love to drop a movie this year. Yeah. I think his style heavily influenced John wick, I'll yes. One hundred percent one L. Yes. Bam. Sorry Canada yet. How was? I love John wiggled, hyper violence, hyper violence, beautiful cars to. Yup. Yana gaza? Magic of the slow moving soon in the league hair read as bad as man dresses impeccably to go assassinate. Absolutely perfect. Perfect attire. Yes, come drive around seventy chevelle s. Mark one come on come on true. That's a that movies. Amazing that it really second one. I liked I love the first one. I'm going to love the third. I'm hoping please. I didn't see any cars, though, saw the previews see cars. I saw motorcyle gotta give them a car. How how? Two hundred. He got to give them a car people understand men want to go to see that car motorcycles, bring out the teenage boys. Oh, yeah. That's true. I remember ordering a cycle. We're I have a motorcycle. And my mom, you're going to get a magazine issues. Aiko? That's true right muscle. For old men boys want ninja bikes. Let me tell you something. I want to share the secret with the world all white guys in young black man has the same interest. They both like young black women. They both like muscle cars. They both like slightly gaudy jewelry, not working in money. You know what I'm saying? But muscle car the crowd. If you go to mecum auction, you're going to see like young black guys who oh, I got talking talking to one another is one of the most beautiful size of that's south to Mike and guy met at a mecum. Mecum coming from become auction. There's a bunch of those auctions Barrett. Jackson. Is the working man's Berra? Jack, what's the difference? You can actually afford to cars bear Jackson is beautiful cars. But you know, you're going to spend money, and they got cars you can get for Barrett bare. But with that said, they say inspection processes better and make them meet them guys blue-collar Guida retired. But he wants to go to. Here's a great car. He's probably going to know something about cars and look it over and sell. Yeah. Man. There's something about the comradery of fellow muscle car enthusiasts. Yes. You know, when you could find a dude who's also just as stupid as you about the poor money and something that's never gonna fill half. As you want to some guys that I'm friends with like this. Extra bond because they're just a stupid about cars may shots out to my man. Rhyme Baugh, given more shouts out than anyone in the history, which is supposed to do shots out to Ron and Mike, Mike. Yup. Has my ninety six and follow from Sean Donald Toby chefs out the Sean from him got the ninety six Impala with under under eleven hundred miles on it at the time. Ron did some spider just me works over four geologists make the car even beautiful just tweaked Lord at a little bit cool stuff and Mike featuring it. So that's nice. I have different people that are pockets of my life that love you. So shouting people out are premature do a bit. You know, appreciate awesome. Joe? Fucking rogan. Thank you your killer. Fucking. It's a big deal. I'm here Meister was here. I know he was all right back to Mike must talking about. How weird it was to meet Mike Tyson. It's so strange to hang out and talk to them party. He's so iconic that whenever you're around impart ten percent of you that has to go holy shit. It's Mike Tyson. No matter what else you're saying. Ten percent of your brain is going holy shit. That's Mike Tyson. Will you showed the clip of the fifty one year old Mike Tyson the hidden obey? I remember it as a child he was the first person to dads of a nonviolent a bio day. And he was the first person seen in my life. Where I say could probably be my dad like everybody else, you know. 'cause my dad's are pretty tough guy had been a policeman was pretty good his hands my bio day six seven, you know, he played offense tackle saying high school teams, Richard. So I guess pretty bad as not they're acting tough. They just you feel protected as a child I remember to say in my life. Oh, probably fucking kill everything. Say he hit with such vicious and evil. Intent. It was amazing. He can still do it. Yeah. I saw in the bag. He's still terrifying. If he was a young contender coming up. You would look at them while. While getting punch. It doesn't have nearly the hands that he had when he was young look at that. Yeah. That was the peak. Amazing story listening to him describe childhood in how custom Otto head hypnotized him. Yeah. That was amazing because I'd never heard them talk about that before. And that's what people need understand who he was. People want to say, oh, he was he was hyper, and he did terrible things and he was violent and this think of how this kid grew up house endorphin. Yes. Literally or taken in by this one guy the first time in his life where anything's positive, and it's all about fighting and being destroyer, and he gets hypnotized by this guy to destroy and he's a physical specimen. You put your hand grab his just his hand his whole body's carved out of a large block of rock. He's a tank of a man still to this day. He's a tank and when he was young they saw that right away. Teddy. Atlas it on this podcast that when Mike was thirteen hundred ninety pounds. They didn't believe he was thirteen. I thought they were sandbagging. They put them in sixteen is again. Okay. Say sixteen nobody would believe thirteen and then come on Hussein his fucking kids to they did want to believe it. And he just let him have it. Okay. Okay. You don't because he said people were always lying about how many people had. They would always he's only that ten fights. And you see the guy move immediately. I'm like, oh my God. This guy's had fifty fights. Watching them and Ted. He was saying that that was always the hustle that everybody always lied a little bit about someone's record. And when they saw Mike Tyson it thirteen hundred ninety pounds look at specimen, some people that are just built perfect for certain things. Was built to be built perfect for Bob it and we've been tight, and he was so fucking fast his hooks and uppercuts. I would fight or has that uppercut like the legs Lewis had a tremendous uppercut, there's fighter Joshua's a tremendous uppercut. Yeah. There's some. Amazing talent today. But what Mike had done was revitalized the entire country's image of the heavyweight division. Yeah. While no disrespect. But there was guys that just like pink Thomas was a champion. Tony tubbs. They weren't kind of guy that you look forward to seeing being the champion to world. You didn't believe it? I don't believe. That's the toughest. Might be a tough guy. I'm sure he's a tough guys professional boxer. But I don't think that's the best guy. And then Tyson came along. There is. My name. He had the per rookie at the perfect body the perfect image and he came into perfect tie. Yup. My when you look at hip hop, and where it was and where Mike was at the time. It was a perfect synergy for him to become a hero, Mike Tyson. Mike, Jordan, like these people became icons at a time where the United States like in the eighties after getting -opay kicking ass debt crisis fucking up the seventies Iran shit, the inner seventies early eighties steel, our my grandfather worked at hall steel. Remember steel, mother grandfather steel, leaving America. I remember like it just kind of being. It wasn't as proud, and he was one of those things that may you feel bad as and the times feel dangerous. And those little boxes you didn't wear the booze one flashy like he was perfect villain at a time. Where villainy NWEA, you know, what I'm saying? It was was celebrated danger. I think he was perfect. And I think he's perfectly now like what Mike is when I hear him interview. And I really talking people make fun of his list. But whatever, and I think that gets in the way of you hearing a real wisdom. He saying a lot of times like Mike is repeatedly talked about change about Monroe in about how he doesn't see things the same. And I think we actually listened to that kind of challenge us to do the same shit that we really don't want to do. He's a one of the rare guys you'll talk to that accomplished an insane amount literally became one of the most famous boxers in the history of the sport. And you talk about him. Now, all he wants to do is dismiss that past life. He went to. I was silly look at me. I'm a silly person a real warrior by he's he's he's he's like in the classic film. He's the reluctant. Almost do you. Do you? Do you do a movie Mike is the guy who is a student go to beg to teacher to fight? And you want one you want to know why he won't teach you, and it's because you find later your teacher killed someone on the ring. He is he is really that character. He is a he's you tell even with the pigeons back in the days that there's kindness and love in there somewhere. And now he gets to express it to human beings. You just see? He's a happier person until you bring Don King saying don't do that. Yeah. And then then you get scared. He's gonna fucking beat me up. And my dad to he the crazy thing about him selling weed now is that he they chart what do they charge them three hundred thousand dollars? I think for tested positive for the Andrew Golota fight for weed. So they find him three hundred thousand dollars. They just stole money from them because he had weed in the system. Now, he sells we'd. What are they going to fail? She let everybody smoke it. It's good for your brain. If you're especially if you're doing something slamming into each other running thirty miles an hour. It's probably good to give them something to calm them down. Release some of the inflammation. Grown adults telling you can or can't do it. It's just what's ridiculous about. Day a grown adult telling you the ones who say you shouldn't smoke weed. They don't do it. They they don't know what they're talking ever done. It the ones who do or don't the ones who have. I don't do it anymore. I don't like to get Heine more those guys you like, okay. I get it used to do foxy productivity. Whatever I get it. But if you never done it, and you talking shit about it, you don't even know the benefits show. There's benefits to is definitely some people get fucked up by everything whether it's weed or alcohol or speed people get fucked up fucked up I've. Benadryl? Yes. But I can honestly tell you that article in half pulse or something years ago that talked about parents who smoked and stones actually being more engaged with that doesn't mean you get up and you get fried the first thing in the morning, take your kid to school. But it does mean that where drinkers were smokers would come home and almost void the child to smoke or drink or do something else or had other things going on stunner literally pop-up may take a hit a two of the joint in the focus would be more on just being a child parenting kind of kicking it cooling your way more curious when you're hind. So if you're just a little bit high near round kids, you're your would be thinking more the way they're thinking trying to be a little calmer with them and a little bit more a little bit more patient. It makes you more relaxed person. Absolutely. Because they anxiety is given to you. Out the mind. The guy was shook one. About he talked very openly about anxiety, and he's one. Yeah. These are the people I like to see you bring up a great got that on tape too. I got that one in audio listened to those running. Yeah. Like because he reads it. Yeah. We don't acknowledge that like in Aircon American community kidney disease or something that plays. Not just diet carrying around stress and all that anxiety is bad for your kidneys, fearing stress beats up the most. I think it's very important for all of us to be honest about how we feel it doesn't make you weak just makes makes you brave enough to be able to express. Honestly, what everybody is probably feeling but scared to bring up because they don't want to be thought of as weak. They don't want to be a whiny bitch. So I don't want to tell you what's going on it's wrong. But especially something like, anxiety, the delicate balance of chemicals that exist in the human mind, and how much it can be affected by stress and relationships and life in general, and your diet, and all these other factors, and then this genetic issues in some some people just have problems tighter. And you can get help. You can get help get help through cognitive therapy. You can get help through medication. There's a lot of people that believe that ecstasy should help people that they should be able to do MD may therapy for a lot of people stress. So a lot of talk that now now you're you making the decision on what to put in it is more in line with right than wrong. Well, especially if they're science behind. Yeah. Like if they if. Allowed it to be legal. Then you would you would allow it to be regulated which would allow it to be like, you would know exactly how many milligrams of this is in this, and how much you should take one hundred twelve pounds versus two hundred twelve pounds all those things should be taken in consideration by science. And if we had that if we just had freedom. Yeah. I think they're they're having a lot of studies or a lot of success rather with veterans and treating veterans with MD and maps, no maps psychedelic organization to them. They're an organization that is working to try to make psychedelics legal and one of the things that are pushing initially is MD may study that they've done with veterans, and they're showing significant benefit in reduction of PTSD and stress from veterans come home, and they've seen a lot of shit over there. And they're just fucked up from it. And it seems to be one of the best things I've ever found discovered for Levy, and the other thing that they've used it on is. I think John Hopkins had one they did with Cilla Sivan seem sort of result. Give people psychedelics under controlled situations. And they have a big alleviation of stress from the past. They can let things go. I got introduced mushrooms. Jay swift. And that was a beautiful experience Andrews my wife to because of that. So I can I can definitely see that. Yeah. There's something to them. Yeah. For sure there is men L do. Enjoy mushroom. We make music. Do you really much? We eat drink some tequila or what do you call the tequila? Cal. Cow drinks, whiskey and shrooms week. Usually we had drunk Anson here from yesterday, apparently, Richard Rawlings brought this cinnamon tequila, and some of it spilled on the table and the answered found up everywhere brush them they were everywhere they were drunk. There was a giant line of them. Like, they found the fucking bar in the middle of spacing got at it. They found it. And we got here is covered with ants ants. My wife made me, hey, borrow night last night with her friend. They got. Shit face strong. Threw up an Uber through the hallway in our underwear. Beck. Adults. That sounds like good night. Uber. Like how many times does that happen in those poor bastards? For two hundred dollars. Roy how much a large amount but enough to be aggravate. She had a bag. So, you know, you think that the bad catches, but it wasn't classic. You know, it gave a little leak. It's hard to get that smell out pukes smell. About one hundred fifty bucks to get Pugh smell out. Really that shit is in your body. Imagine you turn yourself inside smell. I farted a morning puke. Smell does something. Like yoga hot yoga, rather regular yoga could endure. Why don't you like it because I know fart the light yeoman moms farting? Straight up. You ever had a hot chicken Vichy to do that shit? My wife had. So she could talk me in the most dumb shit, right? So yeah, we're going to fucking hot yoga. Yeah. Mom's tits passes. You had a block for me to say in this like pool. Pitch too far. I know my wife or that's not my wife, art. And then you say fuck it you start. Farting. Oh. Oh, no. Yeah. I don't I don't fuck. What how yoga I rather just do regular yoga. And then to just saw that shit out like you. I like how yoga. I don't I do. Okay. But the morning respect one farts though, oh people for for show. Far if you go to the early classes? Okay. All right. The pros. Yeah. Yeah. This is a couple of different places that I go to. But I I like going to the early classes. Do you? How yoga sometimes most of the time. No time. No. I have have an injury something that's fucking with me. But if I do that, I almost consider it like a sauna because you get so God damn hot the room might only one hundred and four degrees. But when you working out hard doing yoga your body's pouring sweat. You must be heated up as warm as you get an Asana. It feels the same way to me it feels like almost like I'm trying to work out in the sauna dot EU. This doing some study now at Harvard about it about heat shock proteins and hot yoga, and how much inflammation, it reduces. And how beneficial is to you forget what scientists are involved in it. But a bunch of people were talking about it the other day. I know it definitely is gas. It definitely does. Well, if you have something that you shouldn't be like eat a hot dog with sauerkraut and a coke. And then two hours later try to go to yoga class. You're a criminal. Terrible person. Fucking. And there's nowhere for that far to go either. It stuck in the air. That's the thing. Stays there era. If you get the real earthy chicks, burn sage, and then suffocate you and you got to leave the real earthy chicks. Yeah. Do you know sage someone told me this check this? We might have talked about this before salvia is sage salvia divvy. Norm. Someone said is like the same shit as sage really? Yeah. Shaeber says she's a sage Myrna. I I couldn't really didn't really like the way it smelled. And now it's almost addictive. It's a beautiful smell. It's a weird smell. It is weird. Someone said it's like related to to salvia David normally there's so closely related they think that that might have been why they call it sage. Stage. You get a little above or something. They're saying, no, I've never really I've never caught a sage buzz. I mean, but it does calm. You. I walk in a room, and I smell it now instantly feel just like, yeah. Sage is the common sages official name salvia, offense and knowledge or some cousin the salvia day. Norm sort of like genus. I never know if I could say genus or jenness, I was panic on that one it's genus. So that's. I wonder if that's where the name sage came from. Because a sage is a wide wise person came from the use of some trippy plants could be they might be or might just have some other strange. Find out what's the origin of the the word sage. Oh. Family. So that makes it why is it called sage sage was once considered a medic medicinal cure. All sages, an herb. That has a sweet yet savory flavor. Sage botanically known a salvia aficionados is native to the Mediterranean region. Sage sage's botanical name comes from the Latin word salver, which means to be saved. Interest. So why do they call it sage then? So someone calls it salvia, and salvia whatever the fuck it is. And then we call it sage why do we change the name still doesn't doesn't say why we changed the name? Botanical name makes sense comes from the word salver, meaning to be saved that make sense. Why sage? You mean like we like an English? Why do we say from over there were using it back to three in region? Whatever we're very close. But they always treat you like you're stupid like you have to have a botanical name bitch. Just tell me the name. What's the name? Why is it of two names? What is it was is it sage or is it Fusco Midas Isla tosa Sonning? He's definitely crazy ass names. You guys wanna give them scientists? They're like, look, we'll tell you. Let you make your own little name for you. Go. What do you want little people people that don't understand science? He let's just called sage. That's right. Sage say you can't pronounce that Salvator Salvatore m- can't do it. Have you ever experienced that stuff salvia? No, that's that was one of the ones that slipped through the nineteen seventies psychedelic Dak sweeping act that made a bunch of things legal, including apparently, some of the things they made illegal aren't even psychoactive. They just try to make everything legal they miss via. So used to be able to buy it you to go to gas station by salvia and trip your fucking balls. What's what's the salvage trip? Like, it's I only did it once and it was really weird. It was like I don't think I did enough because ours, you fear how entire life. He lived for three months in one salvia trip that took ten minutes. Talk to him about is the craziest fucking story he had relationships and breakup and jobs, and he lived a different life and then woke up on the couch in ten minutes underwater. Yeah. Lived underwater. Right. Yeah. Dude, just tripping balls on this stuff that you could buy from the gas station SSI. It was careerism. I try to stay in very dense. And because so they're times. Very mushrooms gonna take trippy riot. I don't I don't know. How far I want to go. That's a ski right there him tripping. They got it all on video shit him. This is some stuff that you. I don't know if it's legal anymore. I think they've made it illegal but used to build a by virtually any way head shops. They all they all carried it, and it so much more potent than we'd but yet legal and has a long history of people using it two straight trip char Rippin. So when I did it I didn't get any of that. But I did get a third I wouldn't want you to be that trip and your strong, your stocks. Yeah. You don't want it. You don't want to have to be the homey to save the homie from itself and how to physically. Herschel Walker trip bad. Kidding around her. While kicking his own ads. Comb you live Kosta sows running Coleman, and they still fucked. They would still be you'll be fucked. Yeah. I I saw myself from outside body. Would pull say in my body in my body. So my body from over here looking down on myself. She had she died on the table for few seconds Jesus. And she said she saw herself wonder what that is. Because that's the same thing that everybody says I mean, regardless of your religious beliefs to stop for a second and try to figure out why so many people see themselves from above their body see themselves outside their body. Like, what is that? We know one all all people any is kind of agree at this point the body's just vehicle sorts. Shane of source, whatever energy or soul, the spirit of trying to identify his within it. Does this connected out? Imagine I'm hoping that they figure out how to put myself in a computer before I'd like to live a couple of hundred years fuck off what if it sucks, though, what if to be? Trying to be alive. Dude. If you're if you're in a computer, you can't die. No, I'm saying if you're eighty nine you're about to get the fuck out of here, you are to upload right into twenty nine again for the next twenty nine years like he'll fuck that. I might try that before I decide to click on know, I think they're going to be able to reverse aging, and I think they're going to be able to do that before they're going to figure out a way to get you a a machine we'll see I think the real problem, it'd be Trump putting himself in like a million machines not one not one like someone who has like Ted Turner bankroll says had. Had about a million kids in this town. Starts breeding Ted's. But but robots let Trump Ted money. No, he might not have a, but he's got money for a few robots. Yeah. Yeah. Those robots go out and make more money. I'll robots going to destroy us. That's a very good question. And that's something that Elon Musk is actually scared of really little divall says it's going to happen. He's a very intelligent guy too. Besides making to record talks about us, essentially, replacing each other with robots it's entirely possible. The way Elon Musk looks at it is that he's he was trying to warn people, but they weren't listening and that there's no telling how powerful they could get once they become sentient once they start taking control their own destiny and creating new robots and just deciding whether or not we live or die and how they going to run things essentially, they're going to become a life form artificial life for way, fucking smarter than us. And he's saying do you think it's smart arm? These things the smart to make this. He's looking at it in terms of he's the tip of the spear. Right comes technology, an implementation of it. I mean think about who this if he's the one who's telling you everybody's kind of slow the fuck down. This is. Dangerous. You literally might be making Terminator movie. Yeah. Literally might be making Terminator movie. Yeah. We have to work because we you're saying that you think we evolve from monkeys we evolved from some lower thing, the ideas that we gotta keep going if we might hit a biological bottleneck. And that might be the whole convergence of humans, and technology that might be what it's all about like biologically this system doesn't move fast enough, but if we can transcend this and move into some sort of a digital life that life we can exceleron all of the innovation all of the improvements in sane numbers. Ears travel time, change the fuck and nature of life itself. That's going to probably be one of the stages of our future. Whether it's a thousand years from now or a hundred thousand years from now, it seems to me like with this adoption of science in into our daily lives in terms of the technologies that we're all addicted to phones, and tablets and all these different things say he says that we're cyborgs extension easer this a rudimentary way. He's for sure right. You already living people already living through this. Yeah. And he's also coming out with something called neuro link. I don't exactly know what it was. He was very vague about it saying it was going to change the bandwith to change your your like your ability to access information and people are going to wear it wear. This thing on your head. It's gonna literally charge up your fucking brain, some strange strange days. He couldn't couldn't explain too much about it. But he's saying it was going to come out and a few months what book, man. We were you know, thirty or forty years away from being unrecognizable. That's what I think I think we're thirty or four years away from being living in time living in virtual world half the time live in an augmented world. I think people are gonna exist in these weird worlds where it feels real isn't. I think they're going to come out with programs that are fun at first, but then become life, consuming where you put on these fucking goggles and this suit, and you go into this world, and you live with these people interact touch each other. But no one's there physically. But you feel like you are and it's magical living in avatar on Pandora MU hanging out with the blue people got the navy that shit could happen. Literally get to a point where you believe you're there or we could be there. Now, we could be there. Yeah. That's a sneaky sneaky argument. Right. But that that's the truth of it is a truth. Right. Could be that we could be there could be a part of a simulation. Yeah. That's another thing that you said my God. God, dammit, you're supposed to say. No, you're supposed to say. It's impossible. You can all be fake who could be a glitch. Yeah. Sure. So just try to live like my grandpa sages enjoyed a regular shit as much as you can. Maybe I won't upload. Maybe I just don't wanna go earlier than the fun stuff. But I think that there's a beauty in. Now that I'm getting older. I guess I see a beauty and in the life death cycle. I don't wanna die now on tomorrow. So I'm telling fucking treadmill. God damn it. But my grandparents were always adamant about not going to folks. And I think it was about they didn't want to be treated badly thought. We forget about them. They never wanted to stop living. So my grandmother died in my arms walking up hill to my granddaughter to her great granddaughter, my daughter on pre K graduation, and my my grandfather, dad fishing, which was his greatest love next to my grandmother, and they realized that their life never stops. They literally died living. I guess that's maybe ultimately what the real thing. You should think about is. Whether we're in the machine and outside of it live, the best possible life, you shouldn't be trying to escape your life with goggles or even a foul shit is to be lived. I agree in less. This is the goggles putting goggles on inside the goggles like MIR's looking at MIR's who've. And then we figure out who we really are be that would be the ultimate mind. Fuck you put on the goggles one day. And you realized you gotta get out of here, man. No, I do not. I'm just you made me think of something. I'm just stoned. Forget the fucking name real it doesn't exhibit at the high museum on the board of the museum. Right. And it was an exhibit there by Japanese artists. And it involves that it is the Infinity mirrors ticket is your Kasama. It's you got it. Yeah. So when you I'm not good. I'm not a good of that. But infidels, I'm taking my daughter. I'm taking Mikey. When mike. Exactly. And I'm going I'm going to I'm going to probably hit a joint couple times Guber down. And I'm going to walk through this museum that she usually doesn't like going with me because people sometimes they'll recognize me. It bothers her if she's really trying to hang out with dad. You know what I mean? But I'm going to get a chance to walk through just me and her kick it solo Dolo and just experienced that with her just that you see the goggles and mirrors. So I'm looking forward to having like Glenn stope that looks amazing. Yeah. Fuck that's incredible. I'm on the board of got axed. I'm rapper museum. This is the high museum in Atlanta. We have one of the most premium beautiful modern museums in the country, we greatly supported I'm on the board our the greater how do you have the time to do all this shit? You make me feel lazy. Man. I just stopped doing this much dumb shit. Just responsible husband and dad and go strip club couple times. Sleepy shots out the sleepy. I'm issue. But they asked me for how move for how MU Dr Hamad PICO, and I know his last name wrong is an artist who my wife owns his piece. He did the rap music cover. My wife has a piece on loan to the Carlos museum at Emory University. He's he's just he's going to be a Basquiat like artists in terms of how he's talked about and more. He's an amazing artist. We're lucky enough to own some of his works. He's on the board. And he suggested that me and again in Kenya. Worked over at Interscope b b brought to and they met us and accept his. And I'm like what I'm saying. I grew up about four or five miles from this place. And for most kids this place was an impossibility to go to because they're magic when let them do. Right. So you're in a lot of times, you have very poor or working class areas that are right next to things that are inspiring kids are not brave enough to break, the filtering go because they're encouraged to Ted Turner and the high museum and things like that have always made it, very acceptable. So when Ted Turner on the brazen hawks if you got bees, and as you got tickets to the game, right? So you could see baseball parties in baseball data inner city because Sega moved out, and you couldn't see it. Right. The high museum in the woods. Found at Woodrow foundation, which is a coke charity gave me and two other kids scholarship to go train on Saturdays to draw paint. So it's like that. So this museum has been in my life since house the key. So being on the board just a huge honor. And especially having eleven year old now that probably is going to want to be an artist it makes me to his dad and our life. So plus the thing on the resume. Just so sophisticated. I know right. Get to go by jacket and slippers. You get one of them jackets with the leather patches on the. One of those scholarly gentlemen, perhaps even have a pipe and some tobacco got class, man. Yemen for sure that's cool. That's cool that you're involved in all those different things. It's very inspiring doing a lot of ship have a mind for it. Have you always been entrepreneurial like that? Have you always been I never I just want to be poor. The world treats. Poor people not in grow up poor grew up working class. So you're taught to work. What you? Yeah. And I didn't like working. I was lazy by nature. So she got to figure out, but it's cool. You apply that as well as you still artistic still very creative wraps or your fucking flow is great. You're wraps are great. I got I got I if I was a fight are probably a multi style fighter. I have. I have the ability to get on tracks and wrap next at TI big boy next to be and, you know, project, Pat and next to L P N be something totally different. Every I've been blessed with some talent. I'm glad that I got with L because L is L is like the, Freddie Roach, reducing and rapid, right? He's a great fight. Kosher me when I first started his beats. No one in the world has been has semi. I'm supposed to be wrapping over his. So he was always supposed to do three beats on my first album rap music, but I went into a fucking campaign to make him do the album. So I start calling them like this became friends like y'all so know. Man records. We finished them. I'm working. My. Yeah. You gotta make sure so what's up domain you need to do the whole album. Okay. Do. All right. A couple days. So you thought about thought about what what we talked about? We've talked about doing my whole album. I told you know, what I mean ever. We we. Italy. Finally, just come. Say here's some more money. He was just like bucket, and we've occasion friends, man. I truly believe that like, you know, he is he's my Gusta model in terms of being able to put me in focus and training. Freddie roach. How you see? Freddie Roach, bring things out of fighters that you know, are in them. No one knows how to bring out L does L does. So the discipline average Guidon with him. That's the great thing about partnering weaknesses or kind of you can identify and fix them because you have someone training which right there, right? You feel inspired by your partner. Absolutely. And I love him for it to people really enjoy his company and and benefit from each other's presence again spied by the to become bigger than just one plus one absolutely abs-. That's why I make sure when I when I'm introduced. Joe Rogan's, people know, Michael render killer, Mike place. I always say know first foremost, Michael rendered because my mom Namie killer. Mike a character that I enjoy playing you know, and I'm Shays husband half run. These things are more than just who. I am. They make significant change in my life. If I live up to the honor, those titles a better person, so ails my relationship is very important when second maybe only my wife. Yeah. And your way of discussing this too. It's sincere fun guy. And you're you're an inspirational guy in terms of your work ethic and all things even chief when you say things like that. And you talk about your word, and you talk about who you are. That's very powerful to young people coming up because they'll hear that. They'll hear how smart you are. And how well read you are. And how much you understand about the business and in life in general, and then they hear how you thought process works, and it'll help them mature their own thought process gravitate towards positive things. It's very beneficial. Thank you. I learned a lot listening to you. Check check out. Guess you bring on just pick it up from just believe in picking up, whatever. Yeah. Well, that's all I'm doing man. I'm just picking up with an antenna that spreads it out. Job. Thank you can do weird gig. I know, but you do your job is making people laugh, and your fucking side hustle is making making people think that's that's an amazing sows over. It's overwhelming though. Sometimes sometimes I do so many of them do some of them on subjects where I'm not even well read, I don't exactly know, guests is being honest, or if their budgets, but that's how like that's how you can you fall in the shit. Like, you don't you don't wake up and. No, yeah. You wake you wake up curious, and you can search, and your honest, you have an honest integrity with your audience. I was wrong about this. Or I've learned to picked up more this. I think that's what is really about. I mean, I don't think about being right or knowing all the time. You're forum is very dope because it's conversational and not contrived. It really is me having the ability to ask we're talking Google research had these notes, I don't know if you know, of course, you don't take recre- chore, an amazing comic when amazing reason why we know about this approver film. Exactly. Did he Gregory brought it to Geraldo Rivera? I knew this man his last three years of life. First of all I meeting him. He cursed me and TI is stolen the tires off his car. Why would he say well me and TI just kinda got on to hokey rappers at Kennesaw them. You know, we're we're. We've embraced the fact that our community looks at us as leaders, right? We're not trying to be Dr care Macken. But we're businessmen were rappers. We have accountability responsibility in our community. So we accept some of what comes with that. And we're willing to do things. So in considering protesting considering you know, talking the politicians on the behalf to you have to consult with elders. So we get on the phone. I'm like, you know. So what do we do kids again shot? How should we be engaged? Should we wait? Should we March March much, Nick, Nick, Nick, what the fuck you don't much? Fifty. Open a street up to tell you clothe yourself shoot. You. If you just like. Oh shit. I never I never thought of that. And this is more serious than we're showing up angry, this is confronting government. And once government has saying you do something a few times you have to practice guerrilla warfare or you're just doing with the British that lost him America. You're stepping up formation shooting your shot falling back stepping up for just praying fucking game. Where the dancing versus doing things that really disrupt the system and things that really progress the move, and I was like oh shit. This is radically. This guy's is more than just a funny man these more than state he's really sacrificing lay that shit down. So we got cursed degrading. Call me back later, light, man. A phone tip talk cool. My dog on how many Hauge he say what he say. But around that tipping. I have been able to be of better benefit to our community. When I say our community. I don't mean some imaginary mythical rapper place. I mean, the five ten mile radius. We grew up in we've made some some some change for the better. We're going to bring some jobs and shit like that. And I think that that's cool. Very cool. It sounds cool to your you. You think in a very positive progressive way of helping community in a real sense. That's nice to hear man. I I hope I help people get out of here. Also, young people say, you know, and you music is fun as fuck straight up punching your face music. It's fun. It's really good shit. Like you. I got a great job. The secretary Java doing the TV show. But I got a great job. You're a great standup, man. Thank you. I mean in the line of like Carlin Hicks like you really push buttons and make. While the fuck is twice like, oh, sit and think go home, and that's that's rare. It's easy to kind of sucky ship. But you I like your shit. Thanks. I appreciate you like on music. Thanks, man. Yeah. Love your music. Yeah. No. I appreciate it. I think we both are tricky businesses. I get a lot of music. I get a lot of fun energy out of listen to music. I don't have any musical talent at all. But when I hear good music, I get excited, man. If fires me up like, I mean, I think it's one of the most important things in our culture in terms of our Billy generate energy and motivations. It's vibration. Really is really I with me, man. I think you guys are. I think right now stand up comedy is the last vestige of freedom of speech in this country. And you guys are to be protected at all costs. And I think if people don't protect your it's going to be at at at the for the for the worst of all, I definitely think there's something to that that there's very few people that are free with what they're allowed to say. Like Santa comedians because we're saying this crazy shit under the guise of it being funny. Yeah. So you can get away with saying a lot of things that won't be criticism. People laugh at them. And you have a good point. If you're just making the points without the joke. People wouldn't do. They don't want to hear. They get mad at you. But something about delivering a point with a joke trigger warning works. Yeah. For sure. It's one of the last ways you can deliver a message that maybe people don't agree with. But if you could make them laugh at some shit, they don't even really agree with the lab and hard. They'll see a little bit of your point. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. When you set out to trigger warning what what was the was the initial premise, and how much did it change until once you got to production, which started filming you want the only people who've that question, you can grow. Yes. No brown. Originally, we shot it with FX. And we over we overdid. It looked really good. But it looked really TV and it could have been dealt, but it would have been a parody of a very real thing. I was tempted to do and right now, I'm talking about Kripa cola. What it turned out turn into at? Netflix was a real. In your face simple, plainly shot. Documentation of the possibilities of barbershop arguments. Right Minna barbershop argument. You get to say, you know, the only thing that separates Acapa Joe. Kennedy Alkap got call it individually. Imprisoning Joe Kennedy went on to produce presidents. They both have been bootlegged people say shit light is. And you go home, actually. Well, damn top. Joe was technically could've went fucked up for him. Never would have had an American dynasty versus L catching simply hidden in not going so well, but him being the preeminent marketing campaign in face of any Capone thing you want to sell cigars to a restaurant. Right. So he got got a chance to say shit. What if I could do this for my guys and again, giving it a shot and giving them to try? I thought of that shit at fifteen years old. I started trying to figure out how to do it ten years ago Daniel, and I got it done eight nine years later, and now you have this. And I say that just to say that Brian Koppelman, the creator, billions is a brilliant writer to me, and he's afraid of friend also, but Brian is putting lately these just encouraging things telling writers to write even if yourself is getting body, even if you don't think is good to write to push yourself to push the idea forward and agitate. For that. Because Daniel Daniel minefield, and I wanted to call riders co-creators Daniel, and I have been talking in development over ten years. Now, I know how to do it. How to go in a room? How to get it won't take me ten years for the next one. But it was worth the struggle. It was worth doing that it worth tweaking ideals worth for team idea to be like the first time around like nine, it's not it's not what it should be because nervous shit tonight before it came out about everything, you know, the saints were shot how they looked production value. And now seeing people get it. And unlike a lot of other artists, not have to call yourself a genius. Let me tell people every artists as a chain every comedian thinks fucking Richard Pryor in some part of your mind. You have to think you're great or why do it you have to believe there's greatness in you, right? But I never wanted to be the I'm fucking genius. I've just never wanted. But to see it because our thought the idea was genius. Like fuck that shit. You remember real people that use? I remember watching that show as a kid looking at motherfuckers like, wow, these muffins exist in these off far places like Iowa, and Kansas and I wanted to approach it. I wanted to approach people in very I'm here right in front of you kinda way not above you. Not celebrity Michael Morrish, the people normal rapper in a game that opportunity and people can say genius. And I'm going to say humbled and honored, but you're fucking right in. This Jay is because I'm engaging people at a regular human level, not at the level of celebrity or power. They used to be an engaged, but one that allows them to fully opened up. I I haven't seen it on TV since some shit like real people. No, I haven't seen revolutionary TV like the jeffersons or all in the family or Maud. And I think that the world is getting scary and pussy to be honest. You know, not to disrespect pussies because pussies are tough. But I think that something needs to be the best compliment. I got under pressure. On. It's been like Ambrosia Imbros you for head said. How's it feel to has dangerous show on TV? And it's dangerous because it unites people doesn't separate people gives you alternative Vance's thought you had forces you to think it doesn't solve all the problems wrap it up pretty at the end give you some options to do some shit to think about and it's funny is fuck and so dark it got imagined. Netflix gave you plenty of room. Yeah. Day weren't tripping man trip. They don't trip go. You know what you're doing? Go ahead. Yeah. Exactly. Walk on the ruling fuck, I'm doing. They're smart enough to let people create their own shit for stand up comedy is no one better in terms of like interacting with them about especially you don't have to give him any notes on the material. They know that you're going to do your best felt yeah, they don't they can't help. Like, no one can help you as a comic. There's another person. Like an executive is going to help you do your best. You got to you got to be looking at it yourself ruthlessly and you'll figure it out. So they trust you. So it assume they did the same thing with you. Yeah. Yeah. Perfect. Beautiful. What a world. Yeah. Forever. The opposite. That was fifty fuck and cooks in the kitchen every this way shit. Shit. Fucking theme song. You need to thing. You say every week which talk about Willis. Everybody needed to hook. Oh my God. Shouts out different strokes. Yeah. What a weird change in that short amount of time from different strokes today in the world. That's the weird thing I'm older than you. But not so much that we grew up in similar times fifty one, you know. You know, when we were children for both of us the world was away different place than it is for children today. Yeah. These kids are being forced to turbo charge their evolution and their education. They're getting every kid over the age of thirteen has a phone basically parents hanging there as long as they can say when the kids thirteen here's the whole world. You little fuck as good luck. And the whole world had a push button where we're grandmother we get encyclopedia's every four years. And I couldn't wait to get the new set because you got to read and learn new information and now that information is right there. But if they aren't curious interested in it'll die right there. Well, there's also a lot of things other than that information. It's not just an information device. These fucking apps of these kids are using back and forth with each other and games. So addictive have this place outside to that was a main outdoor just man, I go just I'd be gone for hours, and how it return derrius up having one on venture. That was that was amazing now now even outdoors is regulated. Also, you worry about child molesters creeps and you worry about shit. We've almost like heard too much about what's possible. And then the fact that there are really still they do exist. And we also send them to church with them. So some of our worries are exasperated. Yes. Yeah. For sure. For sure. Yeah. That's one of the weirdest things ever more than likely going to happen. The place we should be getting outside. Again. I started. I started hand. My man told my wife get Michael Elif floor. Star going outside. So I started looking for leaf blowers Baotou gist, and I started taking instead of having my nephew do it. Because I'm running around onto when I'm home taking my own trash up. Now, spend some time fucking around Yar watching around and stuff, I just I realized being a rapper and leaving on a tour bus how much I had stopped going outside. You know me while my cousins fucking harder in Georgia. And I'm just like if it went down tomorrow like I'd be fucked. You know, I'm rusty is a nail in the rain right now. So I I definitely think there's something to be said for introducing your kids to maybe a little more of what it was like twenty thirty years or thirty forty years ago. And just imagine that human beings lived before houses there was humans, and then they figured out shelter or some kind of rather some kind of primate and then that primate figured out shelter eventually became a human is a better way to describe it. But we something like us lived hadn't even figured out roofs, yet, I love the washes, those videos or YouTube where it's usually these people are dark age until it has to be the India South East Asia somewhere, but you'll see two dudes just make a fucking hut or something out of mud they'll make a pool there. But you get the Genuity and you understand if they're they're, quote, unquote, primitive culture. Does that we never get to skyscrapers jock fresco talks about that? Like, there's nothing new everything you see is an improvement or some variation of something before. So that those just curiosity to do that or the necessity to build that shelter now now gives you Trump Tower. That's where the dark side of it comes from the dark side for me that with with this innovation that it happens. Almost unchecked in terms of our our Billy to think about what are the consequences? Like, what are the consequences? If we keep making things better and better computers and artificial live and artificial intelligence, and what are the consequence the consequences? There's no more. This thing is no more weird pink monkey thing. Yeah. That thing goes away because we don't need it anymore. We got a new life form new life form is digital life. That's the real real concern. Is that just like we are an evolution of those lower primates. It's going to be an evolution. I think I don't think there may not be any avoiding it. Again, we're the virus. And this is just one of thousands of me saying on the quickly that, but we are the things I like people the other side of it. People are cool. Go ahead and attack this motherfucker. So people cut the bullshit and finally half unite like one great movie Red October, dude, I think we're gonna get our asses kicked saying, we're not least at least for one time humanity. Empires would unite. That's what I'm saying that Reagan speech. No, do you never heard Reagan actually said that in whose I forget who was address maybe the first person besides him put in civil right. The day. You might give me the only other. I like Ronald Reagan, very strange Kimmy said one of the things that was really strange about. It was that it's shot off this gigantic wave of conspiracy. Theorist who are thinking that they're going to tell us something about alien contact. Check this out listen to this. Universal threat. I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this do I ask you is not an alien force already among us, what could be more alien to the universal aspirations of our peoples than war and the threat of tell you what to Ronald Reagan knocked it out of the fuck and park right there with. Straight up. I have a song. Call Reagan many of you know, wasn't the biggest fan of him or many US presidents because wrapped about more him in there. But that definitely is gonna make it on kill Mike. I saw that. You got you got just kill them. I can LP. We definitely have anybody. Think is gonna come kill us. All when I'm going to maybe suggest ale, hopefully, use it. But if not fucking I'm gonna do that shit is amazing. Yeah. What do you think that it is possible that aliens came down to manipulate the genetics of lower primates and creative people? I'm willing based on all the theology. I'm willing to accept it. That's possibility because I don't think that we're alone. I just there's noth- even if there's some divide thing that woke up and decided to make us, and we're a special children and we on earth. There had been some other things made or play with right? I don't think that I think is very arrogant as a human being to think that it's just us. Right. I think that the possibility that something made it here in something happened exist absolute because if we're experimenting on animals and things we got like my daughters are. Me. Temperament is mean their curiosity is me as see I'm looking at Michael. And I'm looking at an I and I'm like arguing tonight is arguing with myself. She doesn't know she acts like that. I don't know. Now if I can look at my pit bull and say, well, her mother acted like this. And this is why I know she's coded. This nor father was a half. Look at my daughter and save genetic base twenty chromosomes. I know our temperaments I know why Michael is not going to argue. She's a smart kid. She's art student, but the minute you put her in danger. She's going to punch you. That's what that's what is going to be. And it's not going to be anything else because she is going to protect her. So it's like I have to think that my curiosity of nothing else. My drive to do this. So if you take the primate side, you say, well, you know, that I have to live survive as wolves title year after go. Hi have great show. There's something else with a very small input dropped here landed here, and what's crazy. Into nation of Islam philosophy of source. They have a UFO type philosophy something here in their mind. Scientists ate it all win. When rain kind of created the different races. But something could have come here in a gets here. And it says if I do this and this and create this, and then we set upon evolution. We ended up here or that just could be me stone having watched five movies, but it's possible. It is it is possible zero evidence for it. But it's certainly possible that if we could go to another planet, we knew how life that it's possible found some lower primates that we would manipulate them. It's very possible for full survey of another planet. We got there. And like, okay. Here's the good news. Good news. A lot of life. Bad news is the most intelligent things, basically chimp, but we got some ideas. And we're going to do is we're going to plant some seeds of our genetics in some of these chimps they're going to be smarter than the other chimps. And then we're going to leave mushrooms everywhere. Leave the mushrooms everywhere. Let the Mashru maybe we're in a fishbowl. Maybe. Yeah. We're very arrogantly think of ourselves as top choice. But maybe maybe we're just a virus on this thing. Maybe something you know, we say about week ago. Estate a virus amass virus could kill us. All. Yup. That's what we're constantly fighting the earth wind stop. But the thing about viruses, like viruses, wholly negative in our is. I don't think we're wholly negative to each other. I don't think virus is holding. When I was saying eating you of you having a good party when you get the flu. Like, dude, it's brought this thing is really a living thing in the Nerf is really living. Yeah, we are possibly the worst thing for sure I shouldn't get rid of us other than meteors. Yeah. Yeah. The worst thing for not just the biological life. But the particular atmosphere, creating technology that's going to eventually kill us and get rid of us that may be able to live in harmony with violet, maybe. Yeah. Maybe maybe it's over for us and a few thousand years, it could be, but you know, the thing that makes us fun. As the thing. That's totally unnecessary. It's the thing that got us to the dance. It's the thing that made us want to breed animals piss so bad. The animal side, you have to raise your primal. There is it's there. It's a part of you you've existed in this state for a long time. Fucking and the people that came before that were savage are still, you know. Was there to myself when I hear people say why did he throw it all away yourself? Vigils hot. Nature's crazy, gene. Crazy. Yeah. And that's the reason why they're seven billion of us. It's insane. Dr this Computer cO that's in the back of your head constantly running species must've. I've has really all we put here to do is reproduce. Well, we're doing that. I've been describing is that I feel like we're some sort of electron Caterpillar that's making a cocoon. We don't even know what the fuck we're doing. We're about to become a butterfly Megan's cocoon, and we just completely golfed in it. We're not thinking about it. But everyone does it. They all do it. That's how I felt like when I when I when I see all this stuff getting better and better and more invasive in your life, and the technology coming more and more advanced and everybody obsessed with it. That's the thing. I think is like this is eventually going to be everything it's going to be way better than this physical life. They're going to offer you a life that exists like the matrix the matrix sounded like such wash it fun fun movie. Great movie and shit. But like that can never happen. Now, I think for sure it could happen. One hundred percent it could happen. This no question if they could make world that's better than this. And all you do is plug the back your head to see I think an again if I'm eighty nine. How might say fucking plug in for another eighty nine. Yeah. Maybe if they keep your flesh alive figure out some way to reverse everything, maybe maybe you I mean, but then then you gotta decide who gets to live who gets up and going to classes. Three things. And then you gotta you gotta go to kill you masters mode. And that's what I think happens. Ultimately, the other thing they say is that as people get more affluent they have children than the population decreases as the world's economy evens out. And so that we reach like point where we can maintain a sustainable population. How does that still happen without mass genocide or masculinization that's a good question? I don't think they're saying that I think what they're saying is that as people become more educated more affluent and more successful as more urban ization takes place, people work, more and have less children. And when they have less children, the population actually, slightly decreases this argument, but I don't fuck more people who fuck more have more children night that just that's one of those stats where I'll be like that might they might just be talking about particular class of people. They're still sell seven billion people. Yeah. They're still seventy people live mostly for under twenty two thousand a year, and it usually. Every time development comes at exploited them. Yes. So like where does the balance out of fluence coming like, I know there's one country now doing a universal pay for people. So are we going to talk about going because when you go like is does that happen is that we're going to universal pay? Well, universal pay would be fine foods universal effort. If everybody did put out the same amount of effort. I would agree with everyone getting I'm not saying I'm for that. I'm just saying how do you maintain? How does it has it happened at everybody all of a sudden affluent without mass genocide of sterilization think the ideas that as urban this is not my fear for sure, but I've read it the ideas as the world becomes more urbanized educated and more wealthy as city spread out. What happens is less? Those people have kids, and they have less kids. This is just a doesn't work. I don't know if it works or not. But I know that this is an actual study. Right. See if you could find that people are vein is fuck some people. Yeah. Most people are. But the overall. Humans once people have serious careers, the man and the woman have a series career. They both of them are really invested in the career, they generally tend to have less kids. And when this is the ideas that as this people the solution. I think it's a good solution. Obsessed with work. The rest of the world. Just that sounds like I'm still talking about America like poor people are fucking man again. I just goes back to me like I hit studies show. But you gotta say to yourself. How how do you handle the four billion people? I think the argument is, and this is not my argument, and they go they keep they keep expanding as that these cities in these urban areas that as the society sort of evens out globally, whether it takes thousand years or one hundred years as things start to even out people will be more like, Los Angeles and less less less like poor place Calcutta. Yeah. But that's like, but what I'm saying is like. Poor calcutta. You got a bunch of people walking in this noise. It could be Los Angeles. She got smoggy traffic treasuring. There's there's dulls are two different extremes. That just saying we're like, I'm just saying. You know, sometimes I just feel like maybe we're at the point. It ain't no turn it around. We might be just because we got seven billion people. We might be. But we also might not be. And I think it's not a bad time to mystic because people look for better better solutions. But but. Like Jok fresco in vain project about money Lissa Saudis, rather radical change of what our political states and things of that nature Chomsky talks about. Essentially, all all countries. Essentially now, no matter western eastern, oligarchies and shit. So like, what's the radical departure from this essays at all your mind to Joe Rogan United Nations speech, I think people are more aware of the flaws of the system than they ever have been any generation previous. Okay. Think you look at kids from the seventies and eighties. I don't think there were nearly as educated as to how truly fucked up this country is but also yet truly amazing in terms of like the history of the world, but has plenty to printing to improve on match. But probably will I think people are getting better life to getting better at all all the things government will come along with it. We're going to get better at things we understand each other better. We communicate better is optimistic. And I think with all these incredibly intelligent people that are looking at the problems in the world in terms of carbon in the atmosphere or pollution in the ocean. People are already starting to work on solutions. I got I'm. Really optimistic that that there's at least a potential for someone to figure out some solutions to some of these problems overpopulation is always going to be a weird one because you don't have the right to tell people how many kids they can have. Because like if you meet somebody. He's got ten kids fucking amazing family ever. What what what are you going to say? It's bad. They have ten amazing kids. Everybody's great. You go over the house. It's all love what the fuck. Why is that bad? So so people are good. But only a certain amount. That's where it gets weird. But but it's not a cut in dry issue. It's not a one zero. It's like, yeah. There are too many people, and yeah, you probably shouldn't have ten kids, but you got fucking awesome family. So hey have a good night man to do. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking as. A lot of Brown people desist scenario never went well for always. Follow check it out. You can't tell. Always watching say. Darrow, usually doesn't go. Good people. How many kids they can have get the fuck out think about think about countries where refugees appointed to now just put up illegal sterilizations, and you start to see you start to see where countries are still refugees that are coming in. It's crazy. And it's scary terrifying. And and and I don't want my country become like, I remember countries have sterilized people that have come in. I read a story about it. Once they did that to some refugee somewhere. But I can't remember where it was. How can I remember you probably know so. Country accused of sterilizing refugees. Maybe that was just a rumor, maybe snow. Is happening here. Now, saying some people if they had their way. Yeah. And that's scared to think about these are the people we put in power cooling me about miss Ellison taught me she was she was a teacher. She had one leg. Right. She she wore like a curly Larry mode three sushi wore the the little mushroom hairstyle. And she was mean shit, man. God damn she was me. But this talked fucking she taught civics, and when she taught about how even if your parents weren't naturalized citizens if you were just born on US soil, you got shot citizen. Just like, Dan. That's amazing. Because when you think about at that time, we had learned about I think in history the Irish in their plight Bahir things of that nature. Just like man this country gives you a fucking shot. And this is like when America was reading this is in the middle of public enemy shit. There was something to be mired in James Baldwin had an adoration for America that many people didn't even know he ended up dying in France. I think the expectation the drain in American sales you manage as mazing or can be and to know that that was the possibility then and now my kids don't think like that my dad in the middle of keeping people out shit. It's fucking weird. So in my lifetime. I'm scared to something I might see half in this country. That's how I am right now with shit going fucked up. That's what I mean when I say when you say, well, we'll have a government or a world one day where people will be more fluent well in capitalism, even Catholic try to practice, compassion, capitalists and capitalism. Cavallo ISM requires someone get snookered. Does it really the way we practice? It absolutely ideal. Shouldn't be more like Milton Friedman in the free market what Thomas all talk about. But we as in you. And I. But we you and I engage in capitalism. Capitalism's a lot more fair than what countries are doing. Okay. With one another so large scale stuff. Okay. Say the current system of capitalist. There's nothing wrong with you being able to beautiful Jeep outside based on the work. You've done your work ethic will determine your worth is written in the window of my barbershop. I really mean. Right. Your work ethics unit. There's no such thing as if you plow your field, you're going to be more bountiful so long as rankings, you something you think it's the system of capitalism itself that has the flaws in it, or is it human nature. Exploit things, I think it's human nature unchecked in that system. Okay. You know, I think that allowing marijuana to become legal should not have allowed the type taxation. That's been allowed in California. Colorado was one point time was thirty nine percent. Yeah. What is it in California? But it's high enough that I've seen so we go from about one hundred and fifty dollars three hundred and twenty bucks. I think that's terrible. But I would like it if all that money went to a good purpose. But we know it's not that's. That's. Shit. You know what I'm saying? That's in never land. Where it should it. Never does what it's supposed to. That's what I'm that's. That's what I'm getting. That's why Syria when I say, you know, I wanna be that guy with us just because we got fucking damn. Why isn't good happening in the immediate? Because so much money is pushed into the immediate. Well, if we does become legal worldwide, it's countrywide it's entirely possible that it's going to stimulate economies and a lot of very poor places. It's going to have real positive benefit agree. But but. What I'm saying about capitalism is why are we not ensuring that people who have suffered since nineteen thirty seven have a fair shot. Right. We've allow so many laws to come in with marijuana legalization that it does not allow for the spa businessman to have the type of ingenuity set up small Dicker store had the prohibition, right or bar. Jamie was telling me that in Ohio, they were setting it up. So they were trying to make it legal. But only two guys can grow it to enormous corporations. That was the Bill Jamie believe it might have been four something a lot some small amount of people. They were the only ones who could say we notice fucked up so crazy that it wouldn't even ask for them. We notice fucked up when it should just be you're loud with what they hundred dollar state federal tax state tax Tam, you had to stay tax one hundred bucks. You can grow up to three acres of marijuana. Bam. Love it. Love it. Perfect levied. Do your shit in the growers have to buy from you? So for farmer wants to make a collective before the farmers. They're making collective, but we shouldn't be able to allow that type of domination because essentially, then you're just giving people monopolies of sorts. So it's like, I just I don't trust us to be on our shit enough with the people we leave in charge. Well, it also wouldn't make sense in any other relationship and the relationship we're all someone saying is if I let you sell something you give me a certain percentage because you're basically saying that all of the frameworks of our government and the city's rose drive on all that stuff takes money to maintain. We're just going to take a little piece. No, they'd taken thirty nine percent. That's so much. But that thirty nine percent went all to public schools and paying teachers more money paying cops and paying firemen and community centers. But beyond just pain. Gibbs son of a former cop cousin of current cops. Policemen should be from areas that policing or areas like those they should be offered. No interest loans to live at around those communities. Teachers should be also and the fire department. They should almost hold a special place because of the nobility of those jobs. And how important they are. We all should do stuff like tax reasons. Once you retire, whatever your taxes are once you retire at sixty five years old. We should not baby ten twenty percent off. And that's what you pay until you die. We should do everything we can to make the class of people you're saying about effluence possible. And we're not doing I guess that's the only, but in I'm pushing when I seem because I'm very optimistic person. But my pessimism. My pessimism comes more from the lack of what I've seen us be willing to do to make sure that one another treated fairly then I have seen for right? So what I'm saying? I refused to disavow you know, what I mean. Just an attitude that people Volve that attitude realize how important cooperation really is Dewey though, without being attack us some of us do some of us. Do you do? Absolutely. I do there's people that do and it takes a hard. It's a hard knock into your head to really sink in. But once you do let it sink in. And you live your life that way, reciprocity and friendship for all income rod around richer life. It's a better life. Absolutely. The problem is people aren't taught they're not taught enough. They're not taught in Manatat to face each other and hate each other and the hate on each other and look at each other in with a famine mentality. Lame shit ally that is life. The opposite is beautiful the opposite where you're uplifting people and like you gave out thirty five shutouts. Do that's what it's all about. Man. That makes me feel better that it's people like you out there makes people feel better when they listen to your music and the enjoy your this guy behind it. It's not taking any this for granted. And you're running with this shit. They absolutely appreciate beautiful man it to three hours. I felt like a good three two. Party twenty minutes. It was incredible. I was hanging in there tight. Listen, man. I'm big fan. I'm honored that you came down here. And it was beautiful for me. I enjoyed it very much. And I love you shit. Tell you tell people how to get you online. I'm just killing Mike online. Instagram twitter. I don't go to my Facebook. That's one of my kids running shit. Okay. So don't send. Thank you, brother. Appreciate it piece. Peace. Thank you. Everybody for tuning into the podcast. And thank you to our sponsors. Thank you to the so, right? Go to dash R E dot com and use the promo code Joe twenty for twenty percent off on all products. I really recommend these things I love them. They're really good. You lie down put it on the ground down. My stiff lower back on it and just need it and mush in there, and it offers real relief, and it's very easy for you to figure out. So again, PS dash dot com and use the promo code Joe twenty to save twenty percent off on all products. 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