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 Lubbock County Democrats look forward + Atheists want to pray publicly in Lubbock

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Lubbock County Democrats look forward + Atheists want to pray publicly in Lubbock

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And as always telling your friends, that's what we rely on here. Just friend the friend and word of mouth on other side at Texas wherever listen from. We appreciate you tuning in as we broadcast live on AM five eighty Lubbock. The most listened to platform in the region, perhaps the state whenever you count for all you guys who tune into our podcast pre sheets doing that. I'm your host Jay west Texas Leeson rolling along here from the racer car wash studios. Racer car wash voted love expense wash for five years running. Stop into one of five convenient locations for the best wash around voted the best wash around. Bob years in hub city, guaranteed racer wash dot com. Like coming up in this program. It's going to be a conversation Thursday, John Gibson, who is chairman of the Lubbock county Democratic Party gonna be joining us. What's the way forward? A lot of folks who are interested in listening to that is in John Gibson in studio. Get him just a moment. But here's one where we when the kickoff today, the atheists in the city of Lubbock gonna give the invocation. On Thursday night at the Lubbock city council meeting. This from Casey be d Lubbock read some stories. I like kacie b slant the best because it sets me up to hit some T-ball home runs here on the program. Dateline Lubbock, the Lubbock city council agenda Garner's some attention at times. But this week. It's not for what's on the agenda tool. Be speaking during the usual time of prayer known as the invocation. It was announced last fall at a local atheist group would be given would be giving the invocation sometime in January of this year. And now is set in stone that members of the atheist community of Lubbock that's an official group. I've not looked up on Facebook. But it's the atheist community. A Lubbock will be speaking before the city council. Members this Thursday. He'll be led by their communications in public relations director, Tracy benefit. Now, let me go out on a on a branch here in say, I bet she doesn't get paid very much as I say about liberals in the city Lubbock the chairman in studio may disagree with me more aborigines in Lubbock than there are real liberals. And I would think even the less atheists in Lubbock, but Tracy benefit to do the invocation. Quote. We know there's a lot of people in our group who have lost everything when they come out as atheists. So we want to de stigmatize what it means to be atheists said benefit benefits said she will use the time to invoke ideas, invoke invocation. Invoke ideas. Quote, we are most mostly going to be talking about how we need to come together. As a city, we are the friendliest city in America eight that's what's on the billboards can't descru- Benfield there. We need to think about every minority in Lubbock in thinking about how we can work together. So. So every minority is being carried under the banner of the atheists getting the I don't know what how minorities I'm sure if I reached out to a few of them. They would have a problem with being represented by the eighth easiest, but that's what benefits says we need to be thinking about every minority in Lubbock and thinking about how we can work together. The option of having an atheist give the invocation was announced back in the fall. This has had mixed reaction. Now, listen, it was announced back in the fall that the option would be open. I think. In call me whenever you may. But I think the con- the constitution of these United States gives that option I think that that was announced like way back in the eighteenth century that that option would be open quote. It doesn't really stick within the definition of an indication because it is calling to someone else. If you don't believe there is someone else than you're speaking into the air said Jeff MC Reich, pastor of wrought city church. Jeff mcbride. Following local politics as I do fancies himself on being a political thorny on all things. God centered MC right saying that they're just going to speak into mid air. But I don't know how wrong he is there than I wanna read the rest of this. And we'll break it down benefit explained that an invocation doesn't always mean. Prayer quote. Most people are familiar with a prayer being an invocation, but in invocation doesn't mean prayer those words aren't synonymous an invocation simply means to ask someone or something for help mayor Dan pope emits, it was even a little confusing for him. Quote, first question was I really don't understand who atheists pray to but the more I looked into it. My intuition is that constitution protected their rights in the end. He hopes the community finds a way to accept it quote. I think part of west Texas of part of the west Texas value system is that we are not judgmental. We take care of our neighbor. And we love our neighbor, whatever they may believe they Theus community of Lubbock will give the invocation coming up on Thursday, forty eight hours from where we broadcast live here. Thursday at five fifteen pm couple of things to riff on here. As I look through all this. I don't think that benefit is wrong. I think that she is right in that in imitation means to ask someone or something for help. That's intrinsically what an invocation is to beseech or invoke someone or something for assistance or thority. But. An atheist which means a non theorist someone who doesn't believe in something higher than they must be praying for ideals or principles or whatever the case might be. I know a lot of people who treat treat the constitution. As though were God that they're praying to thing or something not someone, and you know, listen, I'm pretty devout guy. I've got my shingle on the wall. I'm. I've done my theology degree in its Wesleyan, by the way. Methodists Wesleyan, but more Wesleyan Methodist, I don't wanna get into the weeds there. But I sat through a lot of public prayers in gotta tell you. I mean, just being honest with you raven on with you. I hear a lot of public prayers and lots of times, I'm holding my hand my head and my hands in ring among thumbs. Because once you get into public prayers, you get into the weeds of the Olivetti, and is as a Wesleyan as somebody who's trinitaria n- if we're gonna do prayers in this country. You know, I don't believe that the country was founded as a Christian nation. I think it was founded by people who had here to Christian principles, but Yay. Get in the public prayers. I think that there's a reason why we stopped doing it. Because I've heard a lot of good Baptist kids give a prayer before the football game. But, you know, also heard in those Baptists kids prayers is a lot of adoption ISM subordination ISM monarchism. And if you don't know what any of those 'isms are just go Google them. For me. The belief is. That you've got three persons of one substance in that's trinitaria, Missouri. That's the nice seeing creed. Those are the classical creeds, but you can hear a lot of prayers in here that Jesus the son of God is something other than the father of God in that creates a problem in. So I was talking to a the earlier who said no is there a law that says you can't have more than two invocations like maybe we can back up the atheists here in have our own invocation. I don't think that there is a log ins that. But how many people do you want giving invocations at a public meeting where all you want to get done is just the agenda that to me is the issue is. Well, okay. So you're going to have atheist prey than the Mormons prey, then the Jehovah's Witness pray, and then a Catholic pray and then the Baptist. Pray just to make sure that you get it all covered over. I don't blame the love, and I don't understand the voter cycles. And this is something that Ross. Ramsey our friend from the texts Tarim talks about I don't understand why there's not a bigger uproar about this. But the same time I'm glad there's not an uproar about this. Because nobody wants to go to a city council meeting and listen through thirty minutes of invocations. I don't for atheists. This is what I will say this the old far side cartoon to fleas. Standing somewhere one standing up against the follicle a hair follicle that looks like a big palm tree trunk coming out of the body of something. In one flea looks at the other fleeing and says, so he really believe there's a a dog in. That's what I think I think it takes a lot of faith to be an atheist, and whatever they might say, whatever they might invoke. I'm sure that they're going to invoke principles in for us to have the the better graces of one another. I'm sure that's the route that they're going to go but new day in Lubbock county in the city of Lubbock that eighty eight Theus get the invocation to invoke something or someone for assistance or authority look forward to hearing what they have to say, they're at the Lubbock city council. Somebody else who had looking forward to what they had to say. John gibson. He is Lubbock county Democratic Party chairman. We're gonna have a good conversation coming up those you who younger like I am wondering what's happened in two thousand eighteen is there even the possibility of viable two party system in Lubbock in the surrounding area. John Gibson, somebody good to talk to about that. We'll be in with John gives about ninety seconds from now stick with us right here on the other side of Texas will get him John. What? Some. The Jags all the stars up in the sky. So. In studio with us. We have John Gibson in. He is the Lubbock county democratic chairman preciado him making time to come out with us here. John gibson. Your your debut here on the show, tell us how your I'm doing good. I was on the road yesterday. And I missed your show has Daniel the millennial gut near the new digital studio. Or is he he's working on his working on? It is em- process right now some things to do in and out. Appreciate you checking on the progress of the show Daniel is in process, and if he's listening let that be motivation to Daniel that listeners are wondering what your progress is you got the ipad over there. Yeah. I need some the second generation. I have no third. I have no idea. I think it's the second. Yeah. I'm terrible with names. And so it helps if I've got notes. Yeah. You got twelve inch. That's when I run the program off of okay? Yeah. Got mon. But I got it in the a defender there. There by author box because I don't have young children or you don't have young children. I do so. Okay. So there there's a point of mutual concern. John weather people going to do let me give you my breakdown. My breakdown is that in you, disagree with me as you may. I think if Beddoe Rourke had not taken some unprompted unnecessary stances. He could have become the next you Senator now people read into in because he lost by less than three points. If he hadn't taken the stand that he did on the flag and kneeling at the flag. Then I think that he could had a lot more people come his way. But that was easy Pickens. Ted Cruz ran as ruthlessly in west Texas in rural regions of west Texas during Sunday night football, Monday night football of a a veteran who. Lost his legs stand for me. Stand. For me took a lot of cues that made me wonder is running for president as a run running for Senate. But we're guardless of that he still lost by less than three percent. I would think that as a chairman of an I'm just gonna say, you're chairman of the eleventh largest county in Texas. What your folks feel like in what you alike is the way forward, they're given the progress unprecedented progress since the state went Republican well first off I think there's a difference between what Beto did. And what some of our local candidates did. I mean, we gotta be honest locally. We didn't do probably as well as we would have wanted to given the fact that but oh made the showing he made you talked about Beddoes success or lack thereof barely missing out. I don't think there's ever any one thing that causes a politician to lose an election. There's usually multiple factors. I have complained some about this with respect to bed. Oh, I think that had he done what what's called the hero's journey. You do hauteur and fifty four county tour and got all these different counties. And then you come out of it, a new person you come out of it. And you say, well, I visited the cotton farmers in lamesa. And I learned this about. About this. And so now, here's my new policy point on this or I went to the timber farms and east, Texas, the sawmills, or whatever you come out of that. And you change your policies somewhat. You don't have to change a great deal, but you change somewhat that would have been beneficial. I don't think the the whole standing for the flag, and that sort of thing, I think that that would have cost him votes on the democratic side had he changed positions on something like that. But the chain. That's my question though. Joe that's just he didn't change. No. He took an unprompted stance. Right. And it it excited a lot of people. I don't think you can fault him for that. I think there's there's a lot of people on our side that were really invigorated by his stance. But I'm saying that had he gone and taking a taken a stance after doing his two hundred fifty four county tour where he says okay now, for instance, I'm gonna go ahead and vote for the farm Bill, even though the rest of democratic colleagues aren't vote for the farm Bill, for instance, that might have gotten him some. Or favorite west, Texas, didn't right? But he didn't. That's what I'm saying. Okay. You know, there's things like that. There's things like I know that millennials like to drop f bombs right and left, and it's cool for a millennial to do that sort of thing. But you know, it doesn't cost you votes to clean up your language. You don't lose anything. But you see that more as a liability to him than the flag stands prompted when you're only talking about losing by three percent. Every little thing counts. You know, you're talking about something with the flag that might have been a a a it's one of the things that you're gonna make a break you, and I don't think you're gonna get a whole bunch of Republicans to go and say, oh, you know, what I'm gonna vote for Beto. Because now he's or because he's taking a position with the fruits of the flag that I like that's the hard core. Okay. You're talking about the interest people. I think for the interest people you get some little a lady in Arlington, Texas, for instance, who's about. To be in a nursing home. And she hears this drop an f-bomb. She may like him. She may go boy, he looks like like, you know, Bobby Kennedy, and I like that guy. But then he says something that offends her will then she's not gonna vote for it or maybe post. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Pose? And and that's just sit you got west of I thirty five where he struggled. I think there are some people within the Democratic Party who look at it and go, well, he didn't get enough Hispanics out. Well, okay. Yeah. That may be one factor too. There are all kinds of different things that could put him over that three percent fresh oil. No, no one single factor. Did it for him? But there are a number of things could have tweet. My view is Hettie tweaked that children fit four county tour and heady cleaned up his language a bit. It would have helped me to make the case for him with with my contact with the people that I regard well in the circles that I run if you've got somebody who's out there dropping f bombs it gets really really hard to go to church and say, hey, this is this is the guy you need to be supporting people are turned off by that. Even though they may like the message, even though they may like a lot of the things he saying it's hard to get over things like that. Yeah. So John Gibson who is the Lubbock county Democratic Party chair. He came in this role. How John e been here since ninety three. So a lot of millennials. You could say I've been here longer than you've been alive. Yeah. But you came in. Roll hal. I sometimes question that myself. I have always been politically active in the sense that in the local people here know this. I was the youngest person ever elected to a countywide office in the Harris County GOP Harris County Republican party that was back when I was in college, my wife, and I were married at the time. When did you get elected to I was the I was on the candidate selection committee. Okay. So like, we've got this guy that we recruited run for district judge there in Harris County that he went on to become attorney general, and and you may know him, Greg Abbott. He's now in the governor's office. You know, that's one of our recruits Ted POE who was recruited for run for judge. And then he was congressman Dan Crenshaw just took his place. I think I'm I'm terrible with names in Crenshaw thinks dozen the patch cabbage. Anyway, did that head sort of a falling out in the sense that? It's the same thing everywhere. I think with the GOP too far to the right? They get a little bit. Theocratic all or you know, you get into these kinds of things where it's just pretty hateful and ugly. And I didn't like that. Anyway, came up here for law school American meal, shoe gal, and she insisted that we come here for law school and bought a house. And so that tied to Lubbock to where I wasn't going to leave and my wife has happy with that. And then in the meantime, I really wasn't really excited about the Republican party here in town because it seemed to be the same way what I'd encountered in Houston and was voting democrat democratic because that was where my values seem to be going. And then over the years, I've just been more and more to the point where I felt like I really needed to take more of an active role in the political process, and excuse me, I got involved the Lubbock Democratic Party. And like I said, they sort of know my background. And so everybody knows that. I'm something of a centrist when it comes to comes to democratic values and principles and whatnot. And and the party faithful here elected me chairman. So that's how you got here. Yeah. So here, so I wanna do only take a quick break. And then I wanna get him with you on what the way forward is. We've just talked about Beddoe in his imprint and the sort of gains that were made gains that and maybe disagree with me gains throughout the state, especially in suburban and urban areas, but not felt here. So maybe in suburban and urban areas they feel like it's best to go further into. Democratic platform dogma, but can Lubbock do the same in still get some results will give them with John Gibson on that is he takes drink water. We get into the break. You're listening to other side of Texas about ninety seconds. We'll be right back with you KRLD. Love. Do the sound. Jones. Fans knew. Have on the air with us. John Gibson who is the Lubbock county Democratic Party chairman people take offense to. Democrats being called democratic they to say, the Lubbock county democrat party talked to us about parlance there. I have no idea where that comes from people. Tell me that Rush Limbaugh is the one that started that I'm old enough. I remember the world before Rush Limbaugh. And and back whenever I was in college, the professors would complain about that sort of thing. I don't I really complain that it should be called democratic or democrat both. Okay. Because unlike what a lot of Republicans believe when you go to college, and you're in the political science department. They aren't all raving liberals, you've got conservatives in the political science departments to and I would have conservative professors that would insist that you call it democrat, and I'd have liberal professors, call it democratic you insist on just whatever comes out of my mouth grad democratic I get some of my some people will will correct me at times because I happen to make the mistake of saying. Democrat at times, but democratic Democratic Party. I I don't say democrat party at that sounds kind of silly. I would say Democratic Party. I mean, but it's it's semantic quibbles. I don't I don't get caught up in those kinds of games. Yeah. Okay. So I tried to get you caught up in that game. But you stiff arm there, John Gibson. But you are an attorney sure. Yep. Okay. What do you practice worker's comp? Okay. So guys mostly guys getting injured out in the oilfield. I've got an office. No Desa, and I spent a lot of time out. No Desa, but I love Lubbock. And this is where we raised our family, and this is where I wanna live. But yeah, the injuries the work is out in out in the oilfield. So so, but also you run out of DFW as well from time to time. Yeah, I've got an office in Fort Worth too. So okay. That to say, we don't have just some schlumpy sittin here. You know, it's not like it's not like there's a guy who just ran for Democratic Party chair who doesn't really do anything. I mean, you're an accomplish your accomplished within your profession. I'm. I'm blessed to have good clients that have given me some good cases and had some good success with that. So what's the way forward? John. Are we going to see the Democratic Party because you know, I say this all time we rave on in the program in always say, I'm non adherent. I'm not a devout adherent, I vote Republican, but I'm not a devout adherent to either party. And I think a lot of people listening program. I'm thirty nine people who are younger than me who if we go through and we look at the demographics and who's listening to the podcast. I think it'll show that the not devout adherents either in. I think a lot of people are wondering what this Lubbock county Republican party do. Now, we can critique Beto all day long. But in day moss by less than three points. Does the Lubbock county Democratic Party look that is cute run further to the left. Or run more to the middle. You know, I don't know with respect to the state party. I can tell you that here locally. I think that one of the reasons why I got elected was because I am more of a moderate. And I think that we were elected win. I think June. I think okay. So this is before all the November hullabaloo area. Yeah. But anyway, yeah. Here. Locally the problem that we have is. We've got thirty percent versus seventy percents. I mean, that's just the fact and we can slowly over time road that thirty percent or erode the seventy percent and gain numbers off the thirty percent. But what the Democratic Party here is primarily right now as a watchdog for the Republicans. And so yeah, I want to see my Republican legislators do well because I live in this community. And I like you I'm somebody who believes in the politics of place, and I want my Republican legislators to have success for the south plains. You know, Bob Duncan. I know Bob Duncan. He's a he's a good guy thought he did a really really good job state Senator is pointed at his campaign side. Yeah, you've got you've gotta sign here. There were times when I disagreed with what Senator Dunkin might have have, you know, legislated. However, I appreciated the fact that he was a statesman. We have local politicians that I don't believe are in the same class as Robert Duncan. And so therefore, it is the it is incumbent upon the local Democratic Party to hold our politicians feet to the fire and say, look when you go to a league of women voters breakfast, and you say that we don't really need to pay attention to renewable energy, for instance, when for crying out loud who said that. One of our one of our three put it that. Okay. One of our three said, we don't need to be paying attention to renewable energy fossil fuels is is where we're going to focus our attention. Okay. That's fine. But that's that's just. That stupid. I mean, Lubbock has more sunshine and more wind than probably anywhere else in the country. And why are we not going to go and pay attention to renewable energy in this area? The reason why that's important is tucked any millennial, and they're going to tell you man, my future's at stake. You people aren't paying attention to global warming and my future's at stake. And I wanna party that pays attention to environmental issues. Well, democratic party's gonna be paying attention to that. And but here locally, we're going to be holding our local politicians accountable win. They don't engage in that politics. A place, for instance, and pay attention to renewable energy here. Fossil fuels. You know, if you're down in Odessa fossil fuels are important fossil fuels aren't important in Lubbock county. That's we're the we're the pump jacks going low accounting. You don't see any what you do see your win meals, and we need to be paying attention to renewable energy here in this county. So anyway, like, I say. And I think that one primary function that we need to be engaged in is holding our legislators feet to the fire and making sure that they are engaged in politics place. The other thing is is I'm a generation xer. I'm assuming you are to somewhere in the. You know, my generation is nothing more than a placeholder for the next generation the millennials are gonna come along. And what we're seeing you. You had the the professor from tech last week that was talking about southern politics. He didn't talk about generational politics. And we were in the middle of a generational shift. Where a lot of new issues are coming up with millennials that need to be addressed. And one of the things that we need to be doing here. Locally is we need to be recruiting good candidates candidates. That are have character charisma, and competency, you might have seen Claire mccaskill have the interview on. I think it was dateline couple months ago where it was like the exit interview. And and a lot of the people in Democratic Party were pooh-pooh in her responses because she's more of a conservative democrat, and she was complaining about the Democratic Party saying we pay attention too much to identity politics, which I would agree. We do we need to get away from identity politics guards. What in what regards? Do we pay too much attention identity politics? Just speaking personally and not on behalf of the party. I was a supporter of injury white. I thought it was silly for the for the powers that be done in Austin to look at the at the ticket and go. Wow, we got a bunch of white, you know, bunch of white man on the ticket. We need to go out and get somebody who isn't a white male. Well, you know, we saw what happened with Luba Valdez just got a bum. Steer ward him, the texts monthly round of the poorest run campaigns. But still within thirteen points, and I will concur with you there chairman why? Still within thirteen points. She still came within thirteen points at sixteen points. Well, no, I mean, she got trounced by thirteen points, L K. Well compared to Wendy Davis. It's pretty good. I mean, that's my standard there. That's a last serious quote unquote serious candidate. And I appreciate you corrected me. But but again what we're talking about there. If we're talking about the entity politics run campaign. He even ran ads from this radio. They never asked me for permission. But they ran ads. Yeah. My show about what a disaster. She was right. No. I saw the ads. No. But that shit that was identity politics get away from the identity politics. Let's get character, competency, and charisma. Let's get candidates that have those characteristics. And who cares if they're black white Christian, Muslim, Brown, Latino, whatever whatever is praying. At the Lubbock county or Lubbock sitting, you know, if they got character charisma incompetence more power to them. Let's get them regardless of their gender. Any of that kind of stuff? We need candidates that have those qualities, and so part of what I have to do is is I have to identify those people in our community that have those qualities that also have the same values that we have in the Democratic Party, and we need to you know, we need to be encouraging those people to get involved and growing those people within the democrat. So you just said you personally speaking is that not a feeling within the the mainstream of the Lubbock county Democratic Party. No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that I'm giving my personal opinions. And I'm not speaking on behalf of the of the party proper. You've had meetings since the election. Sure is that a fair sampling of what you're saying. No, that's that's my. Personal tirade that. I just went on. Yeah. That's not. So then I would think you as chairman or saying, hey, guys, we've got to begin to appeal to the middle. We have an opportunity here. And maybe that is or is not being hurt. Lubbock is a very unique place. It's it's it's a. Lubbock presents a number of challenges. We had one candidate in the last election who was dyed in the wool Bernie Sanders. Democrat we had another candidate who was more of a Jon tester much more conservative democratic candidate. Our are Bernie Sanders candidate lost forty percent to sixty percent are Jon tester style candidate lost twenty five percent to seventy five percents. But to be fair. Yeah. That wasn't just you're Bernie Sanders was in Lubbock, right? Your tester was in seven different counties. One of which was Lubbock county in that just a sliver. But the thing is is when you talk to the when you talk to the party faithful and party faithful are always the people who are going to be all the hold on. Let me just because what we're talking about his drew Landry right now. Okay. The tests candidate, right and everybody knows that that district is takes tech terrorists in it. Takes six rural counties to devastate. Right tech terraces in everybody knows anything about Lubbock. He might be listening. Suddenly tech terrorists. A lot of tech administration. A lot of tech professors much more nuanced area in just two. It's like a peace symbol. It comes down nineteenth university to Indiana intakes out like a peace symbol out on the south loop. And then takes in three counties to the west three counties to the east, right, but okay that for context go ahead to me if I'm. Lubbock county democrat. I'm not looking at sixty percent versus seventy seven because those districts are weighted in in a fashion that don't lead to the sumptious that might be being made. Well, I think that some people in Lubbock might look at this and say well are Bernie Sanders. Style candidates did so much better that where the party needs to go. I would argue that. Instead, we need to be looking at Beddoe and look at how Beto did statewide, and we need to be saying that here within the rural metropolis of of Lubbock we need to be fashioning a candidate that can win locally more in the style of a better Rourke, then perhaps a Bernie Sanders or Octavio always want call her Octavio detail because huge Houston Astros fan and Octavio doto tell with Astro. We'll see what whatever. I o c. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, but yeah, I would like to see us move in more of a of a moderate direction. I don't think there's any secret to that. But at the same time, I do see why there are people in within my party that are more of the far end on the left. You know, a lot of people have been getting left out in this economy and. And even then it just like, I'm literally rolling my fingers through my hair is say this. Yes, you're my head saying there are classical democratic issues public education agriculture. Yeah. Medical access to health care. Right. The classical that you could run on run on strongly unabashedly in leave the Cussing to the side leaves the flag kneeling to the side and gain a larger audience. I one hundred percent agree with that get anything else we need to get in with you how I mean. I could talk to you about politics for hours. But but no there's nothing you'd have to miss a couple of your commercial breaks or something we can with. So how often do you guys meet in? If people are interested in joining in with the Lubbock county democratic process how. How can they do? So well with any to do is they need to go to our website or you can find us on Facebook Lubbock Democratic Party on Facebook. And just messages, that's easiest way we meet quarterly, plus a few more meetings throughout the year. In fact, we've got a meeting next Tuesday at seven o'clock if anybody wants to show up it's over the Democratic Party headquarters is over behind target on the south loop useless there in the little office park. That's there. So just cross to the south from the science spectrum right right right directly behind the science spectrum and fifty s fifty yard line. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, John Gibson. I appreciate you coming out and fill in some difficult questions. I wouldn't expect less from you. But I appreciate you doing that. Thanks for having me. I think that you're willing to talk about issues in ways that others aren't in. We appreciate your time going to get into a quick break here. About ninety seconds. Get back with you here on the other side of Texas close out the program tell you what's going on the rest of the week cliff Kingsbury gonna be head coach of the Zona. Cardinals was is happening get in with that and more as we roll along here on your other side. Yes. Agreeing though. Great conversation there with John Gibson Lubbock county Democratic Party. He is not a crazy, which is why he makes an appearance on the program and just hear the guy out in if you're about place above party in the wanna know what's going on John Gibson's. Good guy. Preciado him come in. And quite frankly, taking some fastballs. I appreciate him VM willing to do that in. If there are people within the Lubbock county Republican party dwindling and membership. I'm glad for them to come on as well. Help them glad to help them with their membership. I know that I know that the Lubbock county Republican parties like in full fledge moderating force, and maybe their pride isn't so bad that they can come on the program and have talk about why people all of a sudden they're talking about place in while. They're talking about fiber fuel in. And the food in just glad to have yawned because the old sticking points old talking points aren't working any longer the segment brought to you by Lubbock foul room, providing safe and secure documents storage to Lubbock and the surrounding area since nineteen ninety two for free and hassle free estimate. Give Lubbock foul room, a call Lubbock foul room dot com. Eight oh, six seven four four seven six six six today. Today, the Texas house names Dennis bond and new speaker on opening day this from the Texas Tribune. 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Sudarshan Sudsie Maharaj

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Sudarshan Sudsie Maharaj

"We know deployment bogu Elliott something. I always chuckle at when I hear a goalie. Coach speak when his goaltender is on a roll and really doing well. Whenever I hear the Goalie Coach. Say something along the lines of while you know. What about this goal tender? He really listens to his goalie coach. I always of thicker to myself and I can never see Sudarshan Maharaj ever saying that. The first of all he wouldn't because he doesn't like the attention that's number one number two. You just said his full name. I remember the first time I did it. He looked at me goes. Call me sightsee. And that's the name that he goes by. I remember actually he. He knows Kevin. Weekes really well. When Kevin was we worked together I would just say I said his name once and Kevin looked at me goes. Call him sexy so it's not only him telling me that it was his friends like Kevin. Weekes telling me that no. He's not a guy who likes a lot of attention. I think it's whole job descriptions interesting like he doesn't want and you'll hear it in the interview about why he's not around. John Gibson Ryan Miller and the ducks goalies all the time. I thought that was pretty fascinating and I just. He's a really interesting guy. Hope you'll find too when you listen to. This really enjoyed this interview. This is suddenly on thirty one thoughts the podcast presented by GMC. Sierra Sudarshan Farraj is our guest on thirty one thoughts the podcast presented by GMC Sierra trucks. And I know inside your head as soon as I say that you're saying yourself just call me suddenly. Who gave you that nickname? Where did that nickname comfort because it is legendary? I remember once when I worked at hockey night in Canada With Kevin weeks he kept going about suddenly this suddenly that suddenly this who gave you that nickname it stirred a being Trinidadian and moving to Canada. When when I was six sedation and no one could say scenario and certainly not the neighborhood kids and so of course you have to shorten it. So sedation became suds and then the mandatory league tacked on there you got suddenly and so it stuck all the way through and I I understand. There was a legendary trainer in Dallas. Who was an equipment? Manager was also a subsidy as well so it wasn't the first but a one of the few anyway so give us a nickel and dime tour then so you come from. Trinidad to Toronto. Yes and then. How do you get from there to here talking to Elliot and Myself Right now? It was a long and winding road growing up in Etobicoke. All the across all the kids neighborhood kids played hockey joined the local hosts league and progress from there Ended up going to Sweden for six years played in Sweden. For six years. Came back finish my degree. was a schoolteacher for twelve But it was. Coaching goal is on the side. I worked with kids with behavioral issues. So said I've worked with behavioral issues. Kids would be using goalies so they mesh perfectly and from there was coaching goalies on the side. And all those years I was Goldcorp University through various junior teams and then A Tall lanky kid from Bolton Monday Stephen Valiquette Ended up working with Steve for awhile. Through Steve ended up working with Kevin Weeks and then Ended up getting the islander job and was with the honors for eight years and then now in year seven with the ducks yeah. There's a couple of things I want to go with from their number one. I remember as a kid reading the story of how Stan Mikita who was came to Canada. Didn't know anything about hockey. The first time the hockey stick he whacked somebody with it. Just didn't know what to do with it and they said to all this is. I mean you can use it for that sometimes but generally you're supposed to use it for this. You said all the kids neighborhood played hockey. Do you remember the first time you play road hockey yes We just moved into new neighborhood in these avocado and we were all sitting. My brothers and I were sitting at the window watching the neighborhood. Kids play ball hockey outside too shy and timid to go out and asked to join to. Finally one of the kids came and knocked on the door and say hey you guys want to come out and play and grab. Some sticks. Started playing next thing in my my oldest brother. Dean was a huge fan huge fan. And so he said you're going to be a goalie and you're going to play chess like this and so I bought the Jacques Plante Book. Which was the only book on the market at that time for goalies? And and dog-eared it and ended up joining the local hopefully as a goalie and progress. From there you still have that book you know what unfortunately my mom toss years ago when they moved prior to her passing and so I lost that book which was unfortunately you recall anything from it. Oh I remember the angles. I remember standing up and making learning how to Skate. Saves. Because of that book I learned his description of puck handling Behind the net from that book. Oh yeah it was all inclusive all encompassing and there were two sort of pivotal moments that I remember as a kid. The other was my dad. You know new families to Canada. My Dad got a job working at a car dealership cleaning cars and eventually end up progressing to selling them what he did for the rest of his life. And my mom worked at a factor in and my dad was given two tickets to leaf. Game Maple Leaf Gardens. Never been to a game. I had grown up watching the big bad bruins. You Win The Stanley Cup. I was lying on my mum's knee watching that game. When Bobby Orr scored that goal I remember that so we go down. We take the subway down to two gardens and back in those days they had the low glass along the side as luck would have it. The tickets were right on the Blue Line. A home end at Maple Leaf Gardens so there. It was Wayne. Thomas in Darryl's Hitler and boys solving an internal in the whole crew on a young player for the leafs. Saami sitting there against the Glass. At during warmup any picked up a puck and he reached over and he dropped it over the glass from my very first. Nhl Game a player gave me the puck. That player was Bruce Boudreau and ended up working with them in Anaheim and he obviously didn't remember that include a huge impact on me. I still remember that moment. When he dropped the puck from me to this day. If I see a kid in the stands during morning skate I will always one puck at least so when you told Bruce that story awardee say he couldn't believe I remembered that and I said are you kidding me. That was a huge moment in my life that to get a puck in my very first league game from a leaf player was a huge moment and it turned out to be Bruce. See you're in a a wonderful spot and Elliott Narain similar as well and I don't take any of it for granted ever because we all grew up watching those same players now. We have the opportunity to meet them and talk to them have personal relationships with them. Go out socially in meet them. You mentioned watching Bob. Your score on Glenn Hall Yes. Did you ever meet either one of them? Well it's funny. There's there's a couple of those stories. They're rich Preston former player for the blackhawks and whol played with Gordie Howe and the land is rich. He played with both houses. And the name of the line was how and who and I will tell you that story and so rich said one day as we're about play Orleans. Hey do you ever want to meet Glen Hall? At which point I stopped hyperventilating. Enough to say yeah and we drove out to his place. He doesn't Glenn doesn't get out very much anymore but We draw to his place and sat and had dinner with Glen. An had and we laughed for about two hours. Sharp is a tax bill so much fun and next time we went over we went back again. Had dinner at his at his granddaughter's Place Glenn came out with us and I said gun you have to come out to meet. Our goal is in Anaheim. I need I need them to meet you. He refused to do it at first. He didn't believe that the tax money should be used to pay for a rink but eventually relented and came out and met with a time Johnson Bernie and John Gibson and Gibson who is not a guy that spends a lot of time. We're watching hockey studying hawking. All that elbow means a God. The guy's funny how to great like he is Glenn as sharp as a tax bill hilarious and so we have. I met Yes. We've become friends. And so every time I go to Albert Glenn will come out and visit and or I will go out and see him and the only other goalie. I have just was dying to meet when I first broke into the league. A first year with the islanders were playing in Philadelphia and at the spectrum was still around and so the basketball floors down and so we were going to practice at the spectrum which was a huge thing. So as I skate across the as we get dressed in the one rink and we'd go across on the bus and through my skates my latest tied up nice glide across and I sit down in the penalty box and I say to one security. Hey does pretty pariente ever come around anymore. Go Bernie Bernie's in that room over there signing some some things for the season ticket holders. Well that was it so off the skates come and I jumped the glass and Curt Fraser says to me. Whereas the coaches then where are you going to know Bernie Peron's in that room? I'm going in that room. And so run across the thing in my socks and I walk into him. There's Bernie signing eight and a half thousand of these porcelain figurines of himself and introduce myself a goal to coach the islanders Alta ultimate fan growing up and such a wonderful man. Great sense of humor just a wonderful man to meet us an awesome story. Yeah and ended up. Coercing somebody to get us a few of those figuring you'll have one of those gra reach and grab one ended up getting one and hiding it in my bag under the bus before. Steve Stirling good bus me true or false about Bernie Piranha the Best Angle. Goalie vaults time unbelievable. Unbelievable I I in Glen was pretty good in his day But Bernie was incredible. You know the thing about Glenn that amazed me I asked the question so Glenn what need you sort of come to the butterfly. What made you do that? And he went on a dissertation for about ten minutes about angles and release points and all of that. That was so far ahead of the curb. I was stunned sitting there. My jaw dangled. He's clearly a brilliant man. So listening to Glenn Hall described. Why he took to the butterfly and created the butterfly in its modern. Incarnation was incredible and And so yes with Brennan Toronto. Absolutely one of the great angles of all time. So I'm wondering you mentioned the go ended up with the islanders who is your champion. Who's The guy who said okay? So maybe you're not part of general hockey world that people know love but I'm taking the chance on you. How did happen? Eight came out Steve Valiquette called me any citizen. We got a young only here. That's in the minors Rick Dipietro. And He's struggling. Would you spend a little time with them? And so As luck would have it the Bridgeport sound tigers. Were Rick was playing was playing the Hamilton bulldogs in the Caldecott playoffs. So I drove to Hamilton and I did a complete breakdown of what I saw. Rix game was and it mortified him because I gave him the whole nine yards so valley called the next ninety six Hudson. You GotTa take it easy on them. GotTa take it easy on. I don't want to see you anymore. He's a confident guy to you must have really crush them and so the next night he he kind of reluctantly came out to see me after the game and I looked at him and I said you gotTa understand where I'm coming from with this. There's a native saying that the longest journey that we take in life as from our head to our heart and our heart tour head. That's the longest journey we take in life. And I said you need to understand. You haven't begun the journey yet. And this is how I see. That journey progressing and the shoulders slumped in the head went down and he said you know what you're the first ever told me that. And he got on the bus and he said you know I'm GonNa work with guy well as luck would have it. Two years went by never heard from nervous. I've never talked to. And the islanders were going through coaches. You know. And they set them. He was in the minors and they said you know. What can we do to make you the goalie that we think you should be? And he said there's this guy in Toronto that's the Guy I want to work with. I wonder about that. Like who is your champion and it was rick. Dipietro and steam delicate and Kevin Weeks. Those were the guys. Do you recall the issues that you had with? Di Pietro's game remember early Seeing him without his equipment and I thought I was looking at a body builder to myself. Is this guy too big to be a good too muscular to be a goalie? The Oh four lockout. He came back and with these fifteen inch pipes and just built like a powerlifter and there was no question it had an impact. You know one of the things that I hear this old people say all the time. Oh he was a bomb. He was a flop the injury that was the final blow to rick. Was the injuries esteemed at the All Star game got a foot to slide again. Elevate the puck over. Bph Oh he's got some speed. I might have to go take his legs. Though I had that was doesn't move. We're just like you talk school Eric. Y'All going there. I'm done on my God and I remind people that he was good enough to be all-star game. It was the injury. He sustained in the all-star game is what set off this viral. And so here's the goal to play for the. Us Olympic team with the Olympics played in the All Star game. Wasn't that bad. It's just the contract gets thrown in there and all those things. But that injury that he sustained in the All Star game had lasting impact and the surgeries that resulted in. So you know I wanNA talk to you a little bit about your current Job Jeff before you came in. Saudi was saying that we think he's the only goaltending coach in the NHL. Right now who doesn't spend every day with the goalies you take ten days about a month where you're not with John Gibson and Ryan Miller the current ducks tandem. Why do you think that's important goaltending such an intensely Cerebral position and there's so many personality traits that go into that. I've always been a firm believer that the goalies need some time on their own. They also need to figure some things out on their own too so just being There as somebody that supports them and works with them and can go in there. Get them going to wear. I believe they should be where they should be at letting them cruise for a little while wants to ship starts to veer a little bit. You come in you straighten it a little bit and you you you work on you. You spend some time with them. You know you get in their head. See where they're at. I'm a firm believer that they need a little bit of time on their own as well and they don't need somebody in there. You're all the time. I'm a firm believer in that. I'm definitely in the minority in that way because it has gone to the guy that's their everyday everyday everyday. I don't believe in that. I believe that there should. The guy should have a little bit at time on their own. So you said Bob Murray agrees with you on the opposite ultimately the most important thing is your boss. He's going to buy into that and Bob having had Francois Allaire having had peters who also did the same thing has kept to that model. I WANNA ask you about different goals. That goalies surrender. Mike bossy would talk about scoring goals. Five whole Psychologically he would say if I pick a corner goalie can say that's just a great shot. No one stop in that shot if it goes five whole psychologically I've put the puck through the goaltender and it gets up here true or false true true. I think that is true. When you look at and goals are all viewed. There's this there's this belief that all goals are bad. You know. Sometimes you just gotta tip your hat now as far as the five whole goal if you watch in slow motion when a goalie drops you will see that little triangle form above the top of their blade as the goal is going down and that little triangle is the last little piece left until the knees come down and fully collapse. There are times when a guy rips one and even though you're trying to hit the deck as fast as you can physiologically. There's you can only go certain speed and or certain times where even a five whole goal is a darn good shot and so yeah every says I taught me five whole. I should have had that but if you actually slow it down and you look at it in slow motion occasionally. It's just a good shot. Brayden hold peace says he has three rankings of goals could have had should have had no freaking chance. What's your ranking system? I would say that's a pretty spot on one. That's a pretty spot on wave of saying that there are. There are times when no matter what you do and what you say you know. Everybody in. The world knows where Alex veteran standing everybody. The world knows that he's one time in that puck sometimes is just a good shot and plain and simple but as a goalie we are as coaches. We set the the mark. You have to set the bar somewhere in that old saying is better to aim for the stars in and missed and aim for that pilot Dung and hit it. You have to set the Bar. High and aim for making every save can take a couple of seconds of peace and tells both three your guys. John Gibson who probably because the ducks results haven't been there. The last couple of years doesn't get enough credit for how good he is. Ryan Miller who seen everything and because we're in Toronto the center of the Hockey Universe. You gotta tell us about Frederik Anderson. Let's go with these three guys. You know what team policy. I'm not allowed to speak about opposition players however I can't speak about Freddie Anderson when I had him. Okay first of all. Bob Doesn't listen to podcasts. So I think you're okay. I'll start with Gibson. There is a guy who is. There's no question. He has was under appreciated for an awfully long time. I go back to Christmas. Two seasons ago where he hit this switch and he had a and nine fifty seven save percentage for this for the last half of the year and and I'd watch and Elliott. I'd be watching different. Telecasts you can't miss a you back and forth to Toronto. You see little things about lists of goalies and things like that. I would shake my head because every once in a while somebody would say. I hope we get Anaheim. Their goal trainings. There is an issue. And we've got a goal with a nine fifty seven and another goal with a nine thirty two and I'm going Clearly somebody hasn't been watching and so Gibson has really come into his own It's been about three years now if you get into half of the season he's one of the most quiet competitors you've ever met. He's extremely competitive yet. You would never know when you speak too when you see him when you you see him on a surface level give me an. I rode the buses together in the miners. We have been together going on seven years now at the end of the season. We've had our moments. Let me tell you. There have been times where I've wanted to beat them with a coal but there are other times where he has been incredible to deal with and his reads are beyond none his ability to see the play. We'll sit through penalty killing meetings. And he'll watch the video and he has every pattern that they use on their power play memorized where he'll ask me these questions. I left to go and look at the video again i. It's it's unbelievable. His ability to process the play is incredible and is really matured as a human being as a person. I can't speak highly enough about John. Gibson as a person Ryan Miller Has Been a treat to work with Ryan is as professionals professional can be when I first got him. I didn't know what to get. I'd seen the videos. I'd seen the interviews. I'd seen all those things. I didn't know what I was getting and deception of one time where I had to snap the whip. A little bit Tell us what it was Ryan Ryan can get in his head at times and was processing stuff and and wasn't listening and I simply reminded them that if we were going to work together that there'd be some listening going on to and and from that point on it was vastly different in the relationship. And like I said I give you the same every once in a while. You have to remind them that he has to listen. So Ryan is like. I can't describe what a consummate Professional Ryan Miller is. He is as a lot of fun to work with I refer to every once in a while. I have to jingle the keys and distracted a little bit so that I can get what I want to get done. But he is a lot of fun. Freddie. I cannot describe a player that has spent more time on working on himself. As much as Frederik Anderson he was he was Certainly not in great shape when we when we drafted him. I'll tell the story afraid it'll kill me for telling this story. I like the Yeah Freddie. Gotten sent back down from Anaheim and he came down to the minors and didn't really WANNA be there and wasn't working very hard and left. The is early after practice and all those things and I called him out. It takes as you can tell him pretty laid back guy. The Caribbean in me comes out pretty good and I called him out into the hallway and used a few words that I won't use now and describe where I thought he was at that moment and really late into and out we marched back onto the ice and and away. We went that night. We're having a meeting. Freddie came and stood beside me and at the end of the meeting he said to me got a haircut. Okay Yeah and he said I thought I changed my look to go with my attitude And he walked away and it was and complete one. Eighty never had to address that point ever again with Freddie Anderson and it was one of those Aha moments with me with he and I and to the point where a couple of summers ago I got a text. Hey suddenly what are you doing? Because I'm in OAKVILLE? Nothing can come your house for lunch and already marches over drives over has lunch with my daughters and drives away. My daughter's you mean the goal is for. The leashes came over to have lunch with us. Yeah and away went and Freddie I Freddie has done some wonderful things in and I give full credit Freddie Anderson one of the things that drives me absolutely crazy or golden coaches that beat their chest and stand out there talking about how they've created. These guys I hate those guys because we are not squeezing blood from any stones. We are getting some pretty high end athletes and Freddie Anderson to me gets a lot of credit for what he's done he's spent a Lotta time working on himself and his game. How did you feel about handling the puck when he was with Anaheim? Because I can remember having a conversation with someone In the goaltending community about pretty Anderson when he came to Toronto and he was handling the puck a lot more than it was like well. You know he's pretty good. This is the seems new and this person said to me yet in Anaheim. They didn't like him touching the PUCK. That's not true that's not true. We liked simple. We'd like to simplify the game We weren't going for a long stretch passes and and all of that but It his exchanges and when he did have to make an outlet He had the skill to make an outlet. That's not true we didn't encourage the big long bombs that say Because we did play a fairly defensive system but I thought it was one of the areas of game that really improved Time was was how we handled the buck. Are you able to tell because you're so you're right in the middle of it? As far. They coaching goaltenders? Are you able to look at a goaltender in the League and say yeah? That's from Mike Bales. Yeah that's from. Whomever are you able to do that? Yeah there's there's definitely you definitely see elements of guys. Now that is changing. The position has become more and more uniform. There was a time when there was a variance. You could see the French goalies. You can see. The American goalies exceed the western Canadian. Goalies you could definitely see some some variants in their. It has become much more uniform. So you see less of that. But there's no question you see some tendencies. How guys handle certain situations around the goalposts. How guys handle Certain situations on lateral place. Things like that. You can definitely see some some variants. I'm little bit surprised to hear that because I think this year. And maybe it's just me and you can tell me if I'm wrong because you would know this more than I would but I see like price had to pad stack a couple weeks ago like I watch those guys in Columbus like they're all over the ice icy more guys now. It's almost like they're making up stuff to make saves. I think it's fantastic. I think it's great to I swear to God when Gibson pulls out a check on shootouts on you've seen it But he will pull the POKE CHECK UNSURE. I swear he. There's going to be a time where he's GonNa stand up and give me the point Because he knows it drives me absolutely around the bend but with the changes equipment with the changes to the game. And the fact that the game has become lateral. There is more room for some structural changes the structural integrity. And so yes. You will see some of those things I think more often. You will see a few more guys. Yeah at living a little more because the game has become a little more open. Do you find that goaltenders after allowing GonNa go Ryan Miller with this on yours can become obvious where I'm going here in a second. You find that goaltenders are shy to do a move. After its burn them and specifically with Ryan Miller on the Sidney crosby golden goal The minute that Crosby sees Miller's hand coming up the shaft he fires it yes he crosby reads that so wonderfully it's like that's part of the brilliance of Rosbif. He Sees Okay Miller's coach on that I'm going to fire and it's going in and sure enough it does has Ryan Miller ever discussed that particular goal with you. Do you find that after a situation like that. That a goaltender. This is a wide brush painting with here. They become gun shy to pull that out again. How discussed that specific goal. No but if you watch the John Avera School. He got on overtime the other night. Brian tried to poke it on the pass and so has he become gunshot it no. He hasn't begun gun shy on it. Nhl Goal these spend their entire careers under siege as coming up through the ranks. I say to the guys all the time goalies regardless of their level have to have an inner core belief and at no point cannot Corbu B. Rooted because that core belief is what's going to be the thing that's going to make them withstand anything and that is constantly being chiseled at all. The time is being chiseled out by coaches by fans by media by by everyone teammates you know and so it has to be fortified ninety rooted and so one. Circumstance can't erode that because that thing as I as I say being a big fan of music that's their Mojo that's their thing and the minute you strip. As a coach you strip their Mojo or they themselves diminish their Mojo. Then you're in trouble and so I'm a big believer in my goals in particular having a little bit of freedom to be aggressive and if they make mistake on it let's look in We were playing New York the While back bars El-Khiam Nana breakway gives them for the pull check just missed L. back the leap ourselves breaking uses the Club Med for sale. Cutting off go go back and finish into the Lexus. Shot in front of Gordon. Every address lead they get it up in a hurry and Lee says I give this to make quick given go up with a toy department. Brendan and look at Barzel. He knows right away catches it back had and the toy department. What goal my that bars now. But what a great play by Anders Lee. We'll head he played the past just missed but brazelle rip on them and it looked bad but it wasn't a bad move because he went for it and I don't have an issue with that if we're going to go let's go conservative goaltending. Yeah there are times when you have to be. But there's times when you got to go to. And that's the excitement of the position. And that and that to me as a coach giving them the freedom to express themself that way is a part of their dean its fingerprint and if I take that fingerprint away from them than I've I'm not helping them. I'm hindering them such as the last one for me Jeff You know there's there's one story in your history that is. I'm sure tough free to talk about and that was what happened in Sweden. You had a Molotov cocktail thrown in your car wise But you know there's a lot of talk about the future of hockey and whether it's inclusionary enough you would be more qualified to speak on this topic than just about anyone. Do you feel accepted in hockey. I think acceptance is what you make it and what I mean by. That is kind of a vague answer but do I feel accepted hockey. I think you can make yourself accepted by doing your job and doing it. Well enough that there's no opportunity for you to not be accepted. And so when I was growing up my parents said to me. Here's reality son. You'RE GONNA have to be twice as good as the other guy. That's what Anthony Stuart says. Yeah you're going to have to be twice as good as the other guy. 'cause YOU'RE NOT GONNA get anything handed to you so accept that and you'll be fine. How did you receive at the time? It's your parents and you're a teenager. You're going yeah whatever But it did resonate because when I was coaching junior hockey. This is a true story I tried to. I thought I've been cooking junior hockey produce. Some pretty good goalies. Coaching Tier Two thought capable the next steps. The OH L. I'll try to get a job with you and I couldn't even get an interview and I got to the point where I got this. I got this rejection letter which I still had for a number of years from a very famous coach and basically the letter was a your teacher. You don't have the time be. I don't think you're qualified and Seattle. He'll ever be qualified and I remember reading that letter thinking all right. There's two things I can do here. I can take this for what it is and stay where I am or I can jump the Gel. That's my choice. I'll jump deal with Joe. I was naive enough to think I had to do that. And as luck would have it. It ended up happening to this day. I've never been able to get an interview in the Ontario Hockey League. So that's just reality and so to go back to your question. I accept it. I think after fifteen years I have to say. Yeah Yeah I'm accepted because of people like Bob Murray because people like Mike Milbury. Who didn't do any of that is a circumstance. It's never been an occurrence. I think Bob Murray ever that different than the other coaches on staff and to the mystery. Mrs Samuel L. E. We ever met the Samuel is but they're incredible people not just saying that because they're the owners but Mr Samuel like myself as a huge music guy and if you ever get a chance to interview him you have to ask him about his jamming METALLICA. It's fantastic and Acceptance I think is what you make it. You go and you do a good enough job. There are good people out there that will give you the opportunity. I choose to look at it that way. That and not look at the ones that won't have I not had an opportunity Because Oh yeah but also have had an opportunity and it's been fifteen years so I have two more sons. The and one of them was along that vein as well. What can and I don't want to make the exclusive to the NHL. But what more can hockey do to make it sport more inclusive? You know what it comes down to. I think it's the grass roots. When you look at the cost of hockey right now I think that is the single biggest issue. I think that determine the makeup of hockey in the future in Canada when you're looking at the cost of enrollment the cost of private instruction the cost of equipment. All of that you know the will the next Kevin. Weekes be able to come out of hockey from a family in in in scarborough when the cost of goal equipment is what it is in the cost of enrollment is what it is and. I think that is the biggest issue. That's going to determine the makeup of hockey in the future. Not Attitudes necessarily of course that's going to have an impact on it but until the cost of hockey becomes a little more reasonable. I think that's the way you're going to get new Canadians and new immigrants in Canada to to take part Sir Want to end on this one You're obviously a student of your craft. The goaltending craft you referenced. The Jacques Plante Book you referenced. Wanting to be Bernie Perran growing up. And that's of your Your older brother. What do you think when you go back and look at goaltenders from the seventies? I've maintained that in the goals of Alexander Ovechkin score in the entire sports landscape. All right not just hockey. The position of hockey goaltender is more improved than any other position in any sport. When you look at goaltending in the seventies or even into the eighties what goes through your mind. You know. It's funny. Having played in that generation I have a difficult time comparing between generations because of that generation. They were the best and so there's no criticizing that however when I watched that when I watched the Bob your tape of forty nine shots from the Blue Line that went in. You do have to chuckle a little bit. You know and watching Roger Crozier catch himself on the crossbar as he falls backwards as the PUCK is blown five all through him through the skates. There's no question. These goaltenders are incredible and the really are like any sport like any thing where bio mechanics have been applied where training principles have been applied. There's been so much minutia around the goaltending position which I have to tell you is one of my big criticisms of how of goalie coaches now too because there are times where I think as golden coaches we've over complicated the position and Jason La Barbera. Who had had fifteen golick coaches fourteen coaches and fifteen years? When I got him in Anaheim we were practising one day and he turned to me and he said so. I gotTa tell you man. You coach the simplest goal of any goalie coach. I've ever had. And that was the greatest compliment a goalies ever given me. He said you know what you make it so easy to not over. Think it and that to me was I thought. Thank you finally. Somebody's listening to Gibson. But it was the nicest thing any goal you'd ever said to me at that point you know once time so I was actually three last questions so Once more on time if you took hockey team out of their hockey equipment and just line them up against the wall you could pick out. Who The goaltender. Oh yeah no question. Now you can't our goalies normal now. Once upon a time it was crazy goalies. Oh they're different than everybody else. Are they just like everybody else that no no you know what? There's definitely some differences in how they approach life and how they approach the game but there is a little more of normality Krypton to to their everyday if theologically physically. There's no good. Training methods have changed so much for them as well This is a funny story. A few summers we way back. I had a ray emery and Rick dipietro come up to skate in the summertime and in they come in their training garb and and they start getting ready and it was like watching two linebackers. I mean it was unbelievable. Kevin Weekes was in was a part of that group too. I mean these guys were stunning. Athletes I mean they were jacked. That build is gone to and now we have much more lean lanky. I used to say one of the things I love but Marc Andre that he could tie shoelaces without bending over those long arms. You know that he could you? Could you just Gibson has flourished face no but flower? I ended up spending a little bit of time with a couple of summers ago on the ice with his goal in Montreal and we had a good laugh and flower. I have to tell you one of the nicest human beings you can ever meet. I truly have a lot of respect for mark under flurry to this day. During the warm ups sit on the bench and warm up watching our golden their goalie and flower will always throw by scored the water bottle as it goes by so but yes physiologically. There's no question there's the change but they have become much more uniform like the players. You have that linke. Lean lean build. Now Okay indulge me one more and then I saw one more and then I'm done just thought this now is we're talking about Different goaltenders specifically. Is there a way you want? Goaltenders to practice there are some goaltenders. We know Dominik Hasek as being scored on whether it was a game or practice and he would internalize it. And he'll battled every puck. Is that saying you know what it comes down to personality types. I remember hearing stories but Ed Belfour leaving the Puck in the net. So He'd count them at the end the practice. How many goals went in? And if you dare take one out from behind his back you gotta stick thrown at you. I'd heard that story where Miller is one of those guys that and again playing to his personality. He's one of those guys gets very fired up. When one creeps in practice gives them. We'll give me the will look over my shoulder and give me the shoulder shrug by But that's his personality type. So is there a one? Just like how. I don't believe that there should be a one-size-fits-all training method for the goalies. I don't think there's a one size fits all attitude for practice either. As long as for me as long as they're working on their skills and keeping them as Polish as refined as possible. Then I think that's the key as for how they go about doing that. I think there's room for for some maneuvering to again playing on their personalities. I still have a million more bull. Cut it off suddenly. Thanks to spend a Lotta Fun I appreciate it thank you.

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It's Okay to be Selfish

Business & Biceps

55:10 min | 10 months ago

It's Okay to be Selfish

"On this episode we go over the pros and cons of a private private or public business we talk about Zion Williams and kind of what the Pelicans going let him and you know John Gibson versed in and South Korean culture. Well listen. I've been I in South Korean culture for some time but ours. Aw He had an experience he visited the homeland. If you will I enquired there's also many business lessons but there's You know there's some some silliness here that does involve Asians just happened while visions. That's also we talk about the books that we read in the previous year that you must breed and like John said is obviously a huge amount of takeaways. Let's go the freedom ranks second. What's up everybody? Welcome to another episode a business and biceps. And you better wake your ass up. You better wake your ass is up. It's twenty twenty motherfuckers. Let's go fosko about the blaze this year. You Ready Cory Cory. I got news for you buddy. It's it's just another day the other day now. Now the calendar now the calendar you have up in your office of David. Hasselhoff Harry Lender under. Might listen to me. Might say different year but Corey. It's just another day that I did have a proud moment though. I bought my son. A sports illustrated swimsuit swimsuit calendar for Christmas and I think caught him by surprise. But it's pretty amazing and when I asked while while if if your wife does his laundry she's GonNa know if it caught them my surprise cheese us all right time for traffic. We got today trade so good. Stray are so Zion Williamson. You know. He's been injured for basically the whole season. So far has been out but right now is going through his his rehab with the Pelicans and they said that they're teaching him how to run in walk again. So I'm curious what your opinion is on Zayn Williamson. Do you think it will be a bus when he does come back. I'm just curious what he has to say about him. Learning how to run and walk again so what was. What was this severity of his injury? I don't I don't i. I don't necessarily the tour yet. A torn meniscus. I believe and one of my favorite things so far John was Charles. Barkley steak on this. I saw it on twitter where he was his running in front of the desk of Heaven. Shack walkie hit and run. It's almost like yeah go ahead but so so does it. Sound like the team is making it a bigger deal or is he being like a a pompous child about rehabbing it because I think the milliken. They're scared Johnny because he's so big and powerful somebody this is. This is my total opinion from watch somebody seeing something like Derrick rose level. That doesn't just going to say. Derrick rose where yeah where you're that explosive the powerful and the body can only support that for so long if he's been doing this obviously which he has since he's been a young child and he's always been large and his explosive Imbaba. Your body can only take it for so long every year that you put on you know the good old the body things do not run like they used to and unless you're impeccably eating impeccably you know physically exercising or you just have the Frank Gore gene where you can play until you're nine hundred Yeah those kind of players obviously Being from Chicago seeing what happened. The Derrick rose very very sad but you knew when you saw point guard that would go to the holes that powerful in that explosive that those knees man and they only had so long him so. Listen if I'm the Pelicans I'm scared you know the guy is a media machine. He's a ticket seller. He's he's exciting to watch. He's a big deal. He's a big deal but he also plays in a very special a show way. And there's a reason sometimes that people don't play In such a special way when they have that kind of bodies because body can't support it. It's interesting arcing Because a lot of this talk was figuring played one year of college ball. So this do Jong. But when you're to seventy and you're jumping with I mean derrick rose ways like what maybe one hundred and eighty pounds or something like that you know like this year fucker to seventy jumping out of the gym. It's almost like like the geometry and Calculus doesn't match up that you're trying to be smart here. It's like impossible so the fact that the Pelicans are taking note of this and saying we're not going to rush him back. Let's teach the tracking pattern of the knee. Maybe maybe they'll get some specific things for strengthening these areas but once again like Jon said he plays in a certain kind of way. He's a ticket machine. I mean you have to get him on the floor. He's only twenty drugs. I mean at the end of the day. I'm sure they're getting them some drugs at the end of the day. He's too big of an investment. There I guarantee you they're doing PRP plasma rich Platelets I guarantee you. They're doing stem cell. A guarantee you there they're shooting them up with. Hgh Guaranteed guaranteed and specific Steroids he's too big of an investment and That that that's real talk and no one will ever admit it. No one's testing him right now. But when you have an investment of that size that literally affects acce. How a city pays attention to a certain franchise and or sport? You're going to pull out all the stops. I don't care if boot cheating whatever that's life on well before this honestly I kind of forgot about him and I think he's starting like the media starting to you know they're not seeing dunk highlights. They're not seeing anything from Zaire silence. That's gotTa call that's causing you know cash you're seeing a lot is act Levin you've seen a lot is out and Lori Martin. I'm I'm kidding I'm kidding I wish God damn what are some of the pros and cons of running a public business and a private business. Well I can only assume on the public. I've never ran a public business. But it's like this everything can you do when you're running public business as public all your decisions are public especially the ones that involve finances because because you have shareholders so when you're running a public business you're really not the boss. The shareholders are the boss and if you do certain things that the shareholders don't like because they're essentially funding your business. Then they can oust you they can oust you okay. So every every decision you make in every positive or negative. You're an open book. Everyone can see it and people's personal financial situations situations increase or decrease based on your decision make so it's a glorious position. A lot of people view it that way but it also could be brutal position if you're going through some tough times in a tough industry on the other side a private owner. CEO Whatever none of that none of that. You literally make your own calls. You're responsible for them. Obviously your team your employees. You're partners partners. They feel the effect but no one is in the peanut gallery. Chirpin at you. You should do this. You should do that. Shurmur may be customers may ask for some certain things things or this or that. But you don't have a group of investors unless you raised outside capital but it's still much different than being ousted by majority ready and minority shareholders Unless you have that you are making your own calls. You are responsible for your own destiny and you don't have to answer for every little things so I think there's enormous benefits to both. My personal choice is to run a private business because I've always felt like I can build it. I don't need your money and I'm GonNa Control my destiny now. A Lotta people say you run a business you you make a ton the money on the IPO the initial public offering and You exit in a couple of years and say lobby Johnny. Did you ever one shot or attempt at the public side. Just for the challenge. Have you ever dreamt wonder if I do. Apply these private obviously. See things that I'm really good at that isn't in the marketplace for people to see because they don't see our numbers or your numbers specifically from neo previous businesses or current Biz. This is like you ever want a shot at that just kind of thought about it. Yes a from from from my own personal standpoint. The answer's Yes. I don't care about anyone else. I don't care about anyone assessing if I'm good this would ever. It's about challenge right so if I take on something I've never done in the realm business. It is a new challenge so I get to test myself. That's the only reason I would wanna do it because you know the big big big players in business which I don't compare myself to them At all because every situation and is different but they're tested they're tested on the public market so as a measuring stick for someone who thrives off off being challenged it does appeal to me to a certain extent but the only reason it appeals to me is so I can find out how good good I am in a marketplace that literally has metrics to judge people you know. Yeah that's why figured you'd say that's why I asked it I I've I've had experience in both and I gotta be honest. I'm much more of a private type of cat brochure But also you know what it it kind of the reason why I asked Johnny. That question was how to different team. Had some Now I know what I know. You Know Hindsight's twenty twenty but it'd be interesting if it happened again The difference the difference in the squad around understanding what I know now But but the public side is interesting. Because there's can be decisions that are made through your board or through other executives that reflect on you and and you might not have really had any say in it or might not have understood it if I just look at myself. I just probably really wasn't ready to be in that position. I just have to be honest and you know I was and so part of making mistakes and learning things are things I talked about the past of speaking in board meetings and things that I didn't do then and I would do now and understanding balance-sheets at a different level that I do now just understanding business in in just having more Knox You know over the years it would be interesting to take it on again. I've I've always said a couple of things That I would never do it again because I think in my experience experience but I think as time heals I would look at it but it would have to be a really really lucrative on an opportunity with a great team to make aac a sense of doing it but it is interesting because I think that not I think by know from a public standpoint usually get a higher evaluation. You have a somewhat easier exit strategy strategy when you're shares restricted in their liquids so it has a lot of upside to it into Johnny's point like to your scorecards out out there like it's just out there all the time in that game though it's a different game go ahead John. It's a game it's not about okay. We create this business. We become profitable so we can take money home. No it's about a story. It's it's about showing increases on a quarter by quarter basis. That just continue to go up and if you're not profitable it's okay because has the story is intact and the top line keeps going up while you're investing millions and millions and millions into systems into Labor into marketing so so no one's making money yet but the story is this company continues to grow. They're young they're a growth rothe story but guys. There are so many stocks out. There that are fast growers that are worth in excess of one hundred dollars per share that that make no money that are not profitable but banks who underwrite these stocks who invest in these stocks. They tell a story. Sorry to Wall Street and Wall Street pumps DOODOO stock. Price is about the story. It's about hype. Okay running a private business. This is legitimately about rolling over money. So you have prophet so you can put food on the table. And hopefully thrive. It is two totally different things in one more thing I'll say about private. I'm sorry. Public business is if some private equity firm comes in and says we're GonNa buy twenty million dollars. We're of your stock and I know you you can relate to this. They also will say well because we control X. amount of the shares. We want you to bring winging this guy as chief operating officer and you're like Whoa. WHOA WHOA this guy knows nothing about this business? Well if you if you want to twenty million we want to insert that guy and that guy that they insert in your business may not align with the culture at all and and he may not understand Dan anything that has to do with your business but because you need that twenty million influx of capital that that private equity firm gave you you take it and you deal with this alien this Outsider who essentially is nothing but a snitch to watch over that twenty million that they put in right to protect it. I mean it it. That's why I'm saying it's a game well in that is absolutely what happens because they're not gonNA fit in. Let me just tell you because every time that happened us. You're like who the fuck is this old outta touch motherfucker that is here as a watchdog in doesn't get a fucking clue like I would answer questions like so I know you're just like Tweeden and working out. How are you seeing that comeback to sales? What's so unbelievable that right there gave me like when you said that Johny it literally made the hair raise up on my my neck because I would be in these situations because I tried to play the game and I would just think like this says in my company anymore Chris not since the shareholders company? It's this guy's money. It's this person when I was relinquished myself. From the board of directors. Here's I realized that and this is where it became real. I'll tell you guys. A real story had a new chairman of the board which I did not get along with Tawny knows them and I left basically because him and I walked into a meeting with a guy actually liked. That was another executive name. Richard Tired and I sat down because I was in town and the new executive Chair of the board looked at me and told me to get out of the meeting and I looked at him and I looked at him and said what any Os this meetings private and I said to myself in my head I thought to myself this is it this. This is officially over and it wasn't sixty days later when I laugh when it made the most time most made the most sense for me at that the time but I realized that the money the passion the push all it ruined everything and and all the money I raised when this thing was a pipedream all the customers I answered all the content. I put everything I poured into this. Every ounce of my life for years he told me to get out of the meeting. He had the power to do it. And that's the reality of hard cash. That's a hard fucking doc in truth Bro. And I'll do you know it's interesting is I just knew what time it was like. I was a little butthurt over but what I what reality kicked in is that this is just what it is and this is the what a phenomenal lesson though. You know what I'm saying like you knew what time it was you. You knew that he the handcuffed you and so he won won the chess match and for you. It's like okay. I got a battle scar now. This ain't gonNA happen again. No Shit but yeah so would you guys personally by business than persons of course of course I mean I I think that's kind of what You know like what you do when when you're either investing in yourself or or somebody else else it's all listen if you're if you're going to buy someone else's business it's crucial that I think you have experience with with that business either as a customer or you're close to it in some way shape or form and you truly understand The mechanisms that make it move and also the mechanisms that makes it appealing to its customer base. So I think You know like venture capital. Just listen I venture capitalists. They make money venture venture capital firms. Make money I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about if you're a guy or a group of guys who you know who's got ten million bucks or whatever it is and you decide tried to buy a company. I think it's important that you you understand. The culture of the company the culture of the founder the culture of the customer base. So you know what you're getting into. You cannot just look at a balance sheet and say wow okay. This thing is humming and then by someone an out and take them out of the picture and expect it to keep humming because you know businesses are created by people. They're not these alien Leeann things with their own minds that people dictate how they move. And if someone is built something that you know cash flows and has upward trajectory I think you could go in and buy their business. But you always want to keep those people around in a way that makes financial sense for you as an investor so of course. I'm sure I'm sure I'll buy several before before I hang up because this this is what I've spent all my time doing professional that area buying a business starting a business funding a business. Either one of those. That's what I understand most in life. Truly that's what I understand most So of course yeah. The answer is of Absolute Johnny. Have you done that though because I just in his eye. We've only always a my side of only always started them and then grew them like. Have you ever came in maybe previous that. I understand I in then just like somebody else already had it running and then you came in yes. It's something you've done that before exceptional. Yeah Yeah Yeah Construction Company in Chicago all. That's that's right. Yeah you told me that story before. Okay yeah that's that's what's it's interesting because there's a lot of people that's what they do. They don't have the ability to essentially do do what comes natural to you and I right. They see operator's like us and then they attempt to get in after it's already moving or understanding standing Because the art of bringing a you know an idea to reality is not normal for most would say ray Johnny probably like so. Oh that's why most of them you have so many in them. IOS people have only have so many good ideas in them. You know but that's why I think you know skilled small all business people. It's not it's not just the idea. Everyone could have great idea no execution. It's always executions. It's taking a playbook and applying it in different verticals could be the same goddamn played with it. It's just understanding execution and Yeah I don't think it's about coming up with ideas I I think it's about seeing gaps in economic space or or vertical and knowing that you can execute at a higher level than the current operators in that space. Gotcha do you guys think that. There's a line that needs to be drawn when it comes to being selfish with people in your relationships chips in business or personal I I don't know about if there's a line that needs to be drawn I don't I like to use the word boundaries. It's like I'm GonNa let you know what I'm willing to give in this situation. I would encourage you to let me know If I'm setting a standard to an employee okay I'll let you know but Boundaries are extremely important for functional working relationships and they cannot be crossed under any circumstance. And if you feel the need to cross someone like a boundaries like an agreement okay. It's like okay. I'm GonNa do this careers how I work. This is this is the deal. This is what I'm committing and if someone has an issue with that You can talk about it but when you get into accusatory situations finger pointing stuff like that. That's that's a dangerous time in in any business S. or with an employee or with a partner so Selfishness to me. Maybe isn't the right word. I think it's just just about letting everyone know what the boundaries are which your boundaries are and making sure they're consistently respected and and at the same time you have to consistently a respect others boundaries including your partners. I think It comes down to communication for John. I think any good partnership or team is going to have certain boundaries of expectations. I think that when they're made known or you know like you said it is like like a an agreement that people understand like. Here's a on an example that popped in my head bill like I understand that mm-hmm when Janis MOMS in town that John is given her like his UN divided attention. I'm just making this up because this is one thing that just I'm not going to call John and expect. Expect a sixty minute breakdown of something unless it's so needed that it can't wait ten out. You know what I'm saying like. I'm not going to have an expectation for him to be like. Are you fucking kidding. Me Right now g you know that she's in town. I don't see her very often. It's one of the most important people in my life. Like on the fucking workaholic. Maniac and now this is the day you pick to fucking go over unless we're losing the business. I'm not calling hauling John to do that you see what I'm saying that there's certain boundaries whether it's personal or work related to John's point like he knows that after a certain time I'm at with my kids with practice Jonah. Calls me when he really needs me. This is one of the things we talked about a long time ago. And if John Calls I always call him back or text them back or whatever is needed because he's not dot calling to check out how my dinner was going. He's not calling to just make sure like my day was okay like and I think that those things for once again long term relationships are loose boundaries that or hard boundaries that are understood and if they're not and and people like you said or burned them or there's a problem than the communication is key and so I don't know if that's a great example but I was trying to kind of give you. Yeah like if that makes sense like I'm not GonNa push on something that like. I literally understand that John's GonNa hit me up when he's because he's not off the map hardly ever guys like John. That's not how you operate. So Oh I'm going to say like Yo. I know his his mom. I hope he enjoys his time. I actually like that. He takes that time because he never takes it. And so it's like I'm not GonNa Force something that it doesn't need to be done just because authors do that kind of stuff. It's just stupid to me. There's people that are like that though I think before I I just think in closing one thing I'll say is like it's important and people think may hear this statement in think aggressive and it's not an aggressive statement. I think it's important to command respect. And you can command respect in a non volatile way you can command respect back simply with words and boundaries and part of commanding respect is laying your boundaries out. Clear asking anybody if they have any questions and then expecting expecting that to be the rule no exceptions. That's the rule because it's like speak now or forever hold your peace and I think every partner for every partner has has the right to lay out their boundaries and that is commanding respect. But it's not this aggressive action you know it's like a real like just a respect it's like understood but in a positive way to me. You know what I mean. It's IT'S NOT A. It's not the way that you're saying like they might sound aggressive. But it's not really that at all it's like Oh you know what I mean. It's just like a I'm washed with awards but I'll pass it. Today is good so the NBA has issued a proposal to all the NBA teams for a season. Change in twenty twenty one twenty two season so I'm going to give you a little bit of the criteria that they issued so they they suggested I seventy eight game regular season in the NCAA tournament that has a one million dollar cash prize for the players and a potential one one point five million cash prize for the coaches. A play in tournament has seven through eight seeds and and then and then the final four in the NBA finals reseeded. So I'm curious where you guys is take on this love it love it fucking love it. I mean listen. I think when conventional sports their business their business listen. I don't know their numbers. But when you're looking at reshuffling the deck what's the most highly. Viewed like sporting event over time took to my understanding. I could be wrong. It's march madness. And the one thing I always think about when I think about March madness is there's household names right and in the NBA and the NFL in college basketball because the nature of if you're good you leave the NBA. There's not a lot of household names but for some unreason the tournament is so special that it garners all this attention the ratings are absurd so if the NBA is looking at doing a tournament comment. Like here's the one problem with the NBA. And I enjoy the NBA. Very few guys play defense. Everyone knows that everyone knows that everyone knows it's You know I it's you know Eyeso- ball it's you know. Lebron gets the ball any backs. You know that's not real Basque. Why I think encouraging a tournament would or putting a tournament in place would encourage guys to play harder and and these guys are so fucking talented? There's so athletic. They're so impressive and to only see most of them play on one side of the ball. I think his The fans are missing something so if you put a tournament in place and you re seated trae brought up. I just think it would make guys play harder and everyone wins if these superstars in the NBA play harder. It's just a better experience. Yeah I think it's Ah I love about the NBA is. They're always kind of forward thinking. It seems like they've unlike Major League baseball. They've you know evolved many times over. It seems like and Dan. What's cool about this is i? Don't think the I think we're I saw Paul Pierce comment on this and he said well then is it a mid season champion is it like could they have to. He said they gotta get this a little bit right on what. The winner of the tournament is What what is it called like? They need the narrative to be a little bit In put together marriage. I kind of agree with that because the one the one million dollar thing is cool for the bench player probably forgot like Lebron's he ain't trying to get off for that you know what I mean but what I think's interesting is the reason why March madness is so special up real quick. You see what you just said is the most important thing so so a guy like Lebron and there's many guys that like Lebron Dane trying to get up for why yes. I go home but would I probably no. You're right. You're right and to me. That's the microcosm of the whole whole problem with the NBA. You're exactly right. You Ain't trying to get up for that. Why why? Because he got paid. Shouldn't he love as as an employee or whatever. He is with the Lakers. I believe it's it's shouldn't he want to compete in play basketball. Because that's what he's paid to do that. And that's how most hoopers. I think really think though if you got game you WANNA fuck in play right John Online at your best level of all same as me. Put me on the fucking court. When I'm not injured? My game was not that good but I wanted the fucking ball anywhere anywhere at any point right and that's almost right back to march madness. That's why that's why it kills it and the other reason why kills it and this is what the NBA trying to create an my opinion the Cinderella. Everybody wants to see the ups. The upsets people WanNa know that in a one and done tournament which I believe it. They're they're saying it's going to be the grizzlies could win it. Because they got hot in the middle of the season. They beat the Lakers. They beat the fucking or Oklahoma. Could win it like. That's what March madness sadness like when you get the tournament. Now they're thinking about in the off season. That would be cool right because you've got to win the finals. The in the off season would be sick. I I had a tournament that would make. It'll be interesting of the new term load management of how that fucking works but at the end of the day like what I did like about Lebron said was I don't know if it was in based on this commenter on this or not. He said if I'm healthy I'm playing like I don't believe in sitting out like and I I agree with that like if you're healthy -ship Compla- and so hopefully hopefully they do it because if it has any ounce of March madness in the NBA. It's going to be huge and you know they're going to sell tons of TV rights to it. Anna gives a Cinderella opportunity. which I think's really cool? Yeah I'll say one more thing anyone any of my ma brothers or sisters sisters knows that the best time in the sport was from two thousand three two thousand five when pride would do an open Grand Prix and they would take the best last sixteen fighters and let them fight in a tournament format and it was so fucking amazing. If you're an enemy pierce if you love him and you. We know exactly what I'm talking about and to to do that right it's like the promoter the NBA. I in that situation pride. They're taking their promotional channel control away. Because like why wouldn't you have see do it. They won't do it because they don't want to see. One of their bankable superstars get knocked out in the first round hound because then he's not a bankable superstar anymore and the same for the NBA. That you know the Lakers or something or or whoever could get knocked out real quick but I think it it just increases I know it increases the experience for the fan so I like where they're fucking heads at met for sure so. Have you guys ever experienced any guilt in your any of your business decisions that you've made throughout your career guilt. Sure sure and they're normally connected. They're not connected to the actual business decision to the. Let's say the financial end of it. I think the guilt has been connected to how I either did someone or how I felt or how I interpreted my own ideas on how I maybe like disposed of someone in a business scenario because I look at business so black and white that I don't process people as people. I process them as in our process myself as well as you know chips on the chessboard. When at the end of the day certain things effect act people? Now now I do believe that businesses the most cutthroat game in the world and I just I just think that sometimes uh-huh I take people and their livelihood and their their peace of mind and their life for granted when making a business decision because aside towards absolute ruthlessness and It's something that I'm trying to kind of figure out in the business this world. What's the actual best way to do it? I can tell you the guys at the top are the most ruthless. So that would tell you that if you want to you you know be successful. You have to make ruthless decisions and business because it's ruthless but at the end of the day we're all human so nashes me being honest and I don't have an answer really John's like I side with absolute savagery. That's what he said. Basically I had definitely guilt from the first major business and you know somewhere to John's Explain like when you suit up for business in your building multiple the businesses or one huge business. Whatever it is and you lace up and you lay it all out every day and you know it like you know it as you're going to sleep as you're building it you know it and it still doesn't work out how you anticipated it? His look sometimes shit. Works works out the way you want it or you envision it sometimes it doesn't but if you know even though I knew I gave it my all I still had a little bit of guilt because of the Shoulda Woulda Coulda Shoulda spoke up on this or shouldn't have done that or may we shouldn't win to that retailer over this retailer. That's kind of part of it so that that's were were mind. Khanna lied but what I'll say is that I know like when I go to bed at night that I gave it everything I had to create. Not that outcome now. There are some decisions that I went along with that work good. There's some decisions that I wanted to change. That weren't Thou didn't go my way and vice versa so I made mistakes also but at the end of the day. That's where my goal is that there's people that invested in that believed in that it didn't work out. I mean that's part of business. Also that's also part of the ruthless truth at the end of the day. Hey if I look back I had the biggest upside Or one of the biggest upset because I had a lot of shares myself like I didn't want the shares not to be worth ax over Over acts I didn't choose that but at the end of the day like that's that's remind highlight is that it didn't work out how I wanted it to but I had to realize that end of the day. I gave every repeats announcing me to the point where I was to forty. I was so fucking stressed I thought I was GONNA fucking have heart attack. I mean literally like and and I and I was a fucking mess nights until I got myself together than I was even more productive For the business after that but there is some We'll call it dark times leads At at times and it was rough on me but I knew that I gave it all on a hanging out on the field. But they're still low guilt there for sure. What's the best book that you guys read into in nineteen eighteen in two thousand nine teen I would go with My not going to get the new. It's by Bob. Idir the the CEO of Disney and and basically Details his life how he came up and how he makes decisions sitting sitting some wild ride or some John. I think I saw that but I've never I never read it about. I can relate to it extremely because like his whole his whole ethos as it relates to business is not really connected to anyone else. There wasn't a ton of mentor ship. There was there's a lot of individual thoughts that he tested out. And you know I connected with it because I'm extremely hard to influence. And I like to to use my own thoughts and test them. And that's how he came up and he came up all the way to the CEO of Disney his knee and obviously he's an extremely wealthy guy but he's an extremely honest guys and extremely smart guy. And I think it just shows you that everyone can get to the destination in a little bit different way you know because most people got there and more conventional way he got there in an unconventional away. And it's just It's just interesting to hear stories where you can connect with the individual that's is telling them yeah I that's actually all my list. I don't know title is but I've saw come across On I tunes of definitely check that out so we can put that in the show notes or something I think I think in two thousand nineteen. I think David Geoghegan's book was probably in. That's probably a pretty Common Answer I would say because he I think he had an impact Can't hurt me. It impact on a lot of people and I think it was understanding and honestly after I read it and I talked to John John he read it with the abuses. A kid at he that he went through I think in him being able to articulate his thoughts in that manner it ah helped me understand even John Situation even more and I know when you read John There was a lot of things you identified with right the way that he said so I think like so I think he gave a really good insight on what that's like in what it feels like and how scary it is for somebody. That's you know have been fortunate enough to not personally personally have to do that. But there's so many people that have these type of situations and can't get away from it until they get older you know when you're you can't pick your parents man. You can't fuck and pick your parents and I just think that he really was able to show to a lot of people one that the society's Zaidi's fucking soft. He's done an amazing job of articulating. That and I fucking love it into being so honest in not running from what really happened to the man and he said it multiple times an audio version. Like you know. This isn't easy to fucking talk about. I'm embarrassed by this but this is really what happened in and I just think that that was really impactful It's thirteen hours. That's a lot of lunches boy. Like I lunge for a month or so you know I was doing eight hundred meters day. I lunged a longtime in interrupt. The kind of talking about that like when I got to meet David Geoghegan's randomly at the Arnold at this event that to be able to just feel his intensity like the way he stared me a my I when I talked to him he was super fucking Nice but you can tell. His intensity is similar to dealing with you. John like you know if you're if you're no the guy like if you have a real relationship with with somebody then that's different. But that's few and far between but he just doesn't fucking operate with motherfuckers. He is one of of one. He is intense beyond the belief of what most people can conceptualize in the reason. Why I tried my best when I what I would have to see him was I told him hey? Man plunged one hundred miles this year. You know walking lunges eight hundred meters every day. I listen to your book while I was doing. I really enjoyed it. Any fucking straight up grabbed my leg. The fucking basically tried to call me out because he knew if one hundred miles while leg wouldn't going to be soft or eight and he said he told me I love that Shit. It was really impactful moment to be able to listen to him to be able to meet him randomly and then for him the test what I said to him and then fucking pass it it was. It was an interesting kind of interaction canceled out that was probably the best book for tonight's nineteen. Yeah I'll say two things. The right of a lifetime is what I was talking to earlier in terms of the book and then as relates David Goggin David Geoghegan's. There's people who get famous in this very confused society this very social media driven society for all kinds of stupid reasons. And then there's a guy like David Goggin who I don't know of anybody who who like forces themselves to live in a state of truth like David Goggin forces himself to live in in a state of truth and not only does he force himself but he preaches and he shows you daily when whenever or whenever he posts how to live in truth every day. And it's so hard core or can appear so hardcore but what I love about. What is if you wanna live a free life and a happy life and achieve your potential? You have to do it anyways. You don't need to go run two hundred mile races. This is an and he'll be the first to tell you that but you need to take what you are in who you are and you need to push it and then when you get to that spot that's further than you were need to push it again and that is what life is about. That's what life's about it's not about and and and I don't want to take credit for his his words. It's not about the destination it's about you pushing yourself getting comfortable pushing yourself further and continuing continuing to do that until this whole shows fucking wrapped up that. That's what it's about. That's what it's about. and He articulates a beautifully. I think he has has gotten famous for all the right reasons. And it's such it's so refreshing to see somebody like him Garner all all the eyeballs that he has because he deserves it he just truly desert and how needed was he in this current time. John I mean in my opinion. He's just so needed like yeah. I mean it's unbelievable like we live in. We live in a world of bullshit everyone bullshit. Everything's surfaced bullshit money bullshit possession bullshit bullshit with him. There's noble shit. There's no no and if you even try to bring bullshit his way he's just GonNa piece out. He ain't GonNa Punch in the vase. No no not for him and that is so refreshing. It's so refreshing yet. That was probably in a rapid up. This like I basically had my kid was going to lunch with me in the mornings before school. I had him do a thirty day clip and I had him listen the David's book in the conversations that we Had based around wagons did was really I think eye opening page E. And even though you know I've tried to explain this or that or my struggles but when you listen to a third party person that had that type of life it really just brought up a lot of questions and like some really good conversations or you know a person that's you're coming into being a young man and just being able to look up. The somebody like David Goggin ZAS is amazing. And that's that was my whole reasoning by basically saying gee you're gonNA lunch with me and you're gonNA listen to this and we're GonNa talk about it because I think it was so impactful the school. Yep So John if you had a whole day where you can do nothing business related related. Strictly entertainment are spending strictly entertainment. Shit hitman probably get in touch with some like Asian girls that I know and Get some like I don't know bucket. Probably a case of MICHELOB. Ultra for me. That's right drink in some like really cheap wine. Hi Natalie and alcohol for them. I don't honestly you're doing. Hopefully we are in a climate that Permits going to a pool I would be advocate for you. Know a no swimsuit or maybe the beach you know but may a secluded area and just basically do all the things that our instincts on a daily basis want us to do you know. Just just just release the inner human right. Just go caveman on that Shit and think that'd be a special day. You know for me so had some Zeh. John just painted a picture of Asian orgy with a sponsor for michelob. Ultra has created like personal. Like maybe have like Pearl. Jam Play at the pool. You know what I'm saying just like hey they They could play. I'm I'm looking for like three to five three to five friends How could I spend it? You know so funny is that I'm Gonna I'm gonNA say alcohol too. That's kind of weird like I think that I don't even have advocate exact sporting events or even how many Asian girls would have to be in attendance. But it's more like I think you and and your wife's you gotta swing at all or no now. Now I didn't know I didn't but here's one thing I can I can think about pops up in my mind what I had my fortieth birthday. It was the first time in my life that there was somebody you literally from every part of my life that was meaningful to me that John Bosco is there you know my grandfather was there. My my friends and family and People from my hometown people I grew up with people I'm acquaintances with it represented with good music alcohol and friends and it was probably one of my happiest most recent times just of a gathering wondering so it involved. Great Beer like I said Nineties rap music and just a lot of not really not a lot of Asians though Asians reasons who just had trajan user invited trading where he worked with us but at the end of the day. It was one of those things where it was in. It was an unreal unreal gathering of people. That might only really happen. Like at weddings or something like that but even that it was because there was so much more relaxed I just really had a wonderful time and it was nice fucking guy I tell you what you're fucking hallmark card of guy. I can hallmark the up serious job in fucking high. It's the first thing that popped into my mind because everybody that I would choose to spend time with was there are basically. No one didn't come at least for a little period of time that I really wanted to be there and it was. It was just really cool the first thing they fought their mind that that's funny that you call me hallmark channel Era all American fucking good guy. trae I gotta I gotTa ask you so you re trade you were recently in Korea. Tell me about How unless I listen I know a thing or or two about South Korean women? Tell me tell me some things. I don't know because I have not been to South Korea nor am I of that descent or partially of that descent. Now you would fit. You are part of that descent You have ancestors hailing from South Korea and you got to see the natives. Tell me about please. Thanks who I would say that. One common misconception with South Korea that a lot of people have love is that tension between North and South Korea is almost nonexistent over there compared to how it is in the United States so in the United States a lot of people seem him to make a big deal about Kim Jong Hoon over there in South Korea. That's something that nobody's worried about. No like okay. No one's worried about now back to the women so tell me about the local one. Tell me about the local South Korean women when they see you know trey and his beautiful skin. Tones owns glorious error fucking walking through the streets of Seoul. What happens what happened with nothing? Happened had is no no trainees. Tell the story because his interpreter had the hots form of South Korean so now trae now Utah. ooh ooh ooh is going to get him in trouble. He was a good boy. Good boy that sounds good. It is so did you. Did you feed her. I did not feed her. How you mean I? I wasn't very good border but the woman over there tend to be very very skinny. Obviously you know how you know. How Asians are Asians typically are skinny because because Pino entire if you WANNA fuller body you go to the Philippines you go to Thailand continue? I like how you know the difference back to say I love that but so yeah the Wilson. Yeah Yeah John You would love it over there. Actually because the nights the nights seen over there is like night markets yes a lot of night markets and you would love to go out another another thing about drinking over there is that they drink all day there and it's more more part of their culture that it's not like an America how people will go out and get a beer at lunch to kind of forget about what the fuck they did at work in the morning. It's more like you. You think there'd be shrinking over there is not really a degeneracy thing right little except the nightlife if though the nightlife John I wish could experience that I highly dominate John. Bosco experiences the Korean nightlife. Listen Listen Trey I I know more than leading on but I appreciate your Your your your narrative of your journey. Thank you all right. So Johnny Fosko. It's time to roll. MARQUARDT G hallmark card. Hey make sure you I share this podcast with all your friends you must subscribe. You must go to advise them biceps on instagram or twitter. Shoot US a message. Leave us a five five star review with a positive comment. Only don't hate on trae jewels. Very they're aggressive. Johnny Aggressive Gills. Can the PODCAST. Not Unless jewels leaves a review. The new see Pasta Yeah.

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Episode 251: Sam Acho

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Episode 251: Sam Acho

"I- threads. Happy Monday. Welcome to another episode of that Sounds Fun. I'm your host Anne F. Down I'm so happy to be here with you today. Hey, if you get a chance at can rate and review our show that would be so so helpful and share it with your friends, your specially GonNa WanNa share today's episode. We've got a great show for you especially on Monday after we've had a football Sunday we get to talk to Sam Acho his new book let the world. See you how to be real in a world full of fakes releases tomorrow October Thirteen, I think you're GonNa love it Y'all are GonNa absolutely adore this show but before we jump in today You've got one of our amazing partners better help. It's no secret around here that I am a believer in counseling. You'll hit Sam same. I've been seeing my counselor for just a little over seven years. Yes. 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Whatever you share with them is completely confidential. You've heard me say it before but I think prioritizing your mental and emotional health really matters I want you start living a more full life today as one of our friends here that sounds fun. You'll get ten percent off your first month by visiting better help dot com slash VAT sounds fun join over a million people who've taken charge of their mental health again, that's better help H. E. L. P. dot com slash bat sounds fun and speaking of fun. Here's my conversation with our good friend and author of let the world see you sam. Okay. For starters. Atchoo Acho. What happened odd Odd Show so it's like not show without the end or maybe you could say like Macho without the. Macho without the that's excellent. Right will the funny thing is a couple of years ago a super bowl commercial with some friends not even like a really on the Super Bowl but we called it off chose Nachos. There's. So I do I, do have an affinity towards nachos though they're probably not the best thing to eat if you're a pro athlete. Yeah. Yeah I mean I've this against surprise you I've never been a pro athlete but. I. Have heard that Nachos like on the regular probably isn't the best every now and again but just on the regular in the best. Okay here's my first question. I'm just GONNA jump right in on a personal question I'm stalking your instagram. And I can't tell how big your family is. Your your wife, your kids there's. What's the thing here do y'all have like some like boundaries on your family life versus your public life I'm super interested about what you choose to share them, what you don't choose to share. I'll tell everyone anything at anytime. That's just how I've always been. But super diverted and out there and hey dj also the I really don't care but I'm learning. So we'll be put on my wife watches from Nigeria and that's that's just one piece about her but she's also very Private the but she's like I can meet somebody at the gas station and we would literally become best friends literally like pumping s right whereas whereas. Then, I won't talk to them after a couple of months or years, but whereas my wife's like she's very intentional with kind of like. What she say shares and who she shares it with and all the things like even with the friends as she picks very like she's one of those friends where if you're friends with your friends for life. I'm very much. We'll hang out today and maybe I'll see in a couple of years maybe I won't. So anyway. So with social media, I try to be ever really asked her specifically. Can I share this concern that sometimes I do but with with her I, don't I'm not always just flaunting her for likes per se like I love her. Yeah and so there there's a deal where we did a it was during Corinthian doing church art like we would church every Sunday at house. That's kind of what we. Did. So I remember posting ads videos recording ask can equal if I post some of this stuff and sheet. So this is all on me. Right she said, yeah, you can po- some but not all this stuff like we're I'm just straight up worshiping want the world seem you right? Yeah and I was like well, I'm getting a lot of likes. So I posted the one that she didn't want me to pose. And and so that was with that piece and with kids like I usually post kits up. But then also I don't know I've got some friends who don't post a lot of their kids on social and there's some creeps out there and so I kind of try to be a little bit careful. But if we're up to me like I'm showing everybody everything but I'm trying to be wise with putting my kid is out there in life out there. Yeah I just was I I'm. So interested in that because I would imagine so many and I because I'm not married don't have kids yet. I don't experience it with husband and kids but I, do experience it in dating or watching my friends and their families trying to sort out like one spouse as down with this and the other spouse is not and so so to me, it sounds like what you're saying is like there's not these hard set rules in your family, but there's conversations whenever there needs to be. More than anything. I, think it's more of a respect thing like you said in dating relationships or any kind of relationships right friendships whatever it is it's a respect thing. I remember just people are different right and so some people wanNA show share everything people are more private and so I'm just learning that just because think every everybody needs to know every little detail that doesn't mean that that's actually the case and so and that's that's what I'm learning. But early on I mean I was a dude post in our wedding pictures vacation or whatever. You like you need to chill I don't need you know what? I mean so so yeah. Okay. Tell me. From Nigeria. Yes my wife and I we met. So I met doing medical mission shirt. So anybody who's listening who loves Jesus and wants to go serve in Nigeria kidding. We met we. Mental mischief. So my wife was born and raised in Nigeria and I my parents are Jerry, and so we would go every summer and do medical mission work out there and actually met because she I'm at her because she was rebuffed about fifteen years old at the time, but she was actually taking care of my grandmother. My grandmother she had moved from the city she was living in. Nigeria to the village to help to help take care of my grandma and I remember going over there is my first time on this medical mission trip with my parents I was fifteen years old and. I remember going there and there's an older woman who came with US named Miss Alice. She came from. Tampa, and she was on the Strip and we're just talking kind of towards the end of the trip. When she looks at me, I'm fifteen years old missiles about sixty seven about almost seventy. She says, you know what? Sam You're. GonNa make a great husband one day. And I'm like. Miss Alice. Little too old for me like you need it. What are you talking to? My mind but she's like and you never know the woman of your dreams. Right? We're in. We're in the middle of the village. Yeah Julia said she said the woman of your dreams might be right under this very roots. And as she says that my wife and Ghazi walks by. My wife at the time but this year younger ozzy Ghazi walks by and she said that I leave I don't really talk to this young girl why go back the next year and the next year and the next year also go back for Christmas. oftentimes to see family family still in Nigeria aunts and uncles and grandma and all these things and I would see her serving and so finally is my second year in the NFL to twenty three years old I over in Jira with one of my teammates and the guy who knows everything you like dating other people in the middle. No I wasn't I wasn't even dating the way I grew up in this I mean obviously part of the way I grew up also kind of my personality I wasn't really like the dating of our kind of weird and around girls and didn't really I was not. Pick. An all boys school privates will college prep. I was super nerdy in a lot of ways and also playing sports is Super Nerdy but also culturally my parents like, no, we don't like Nigeria and like you dates to many date just like, oh this is going to date. It's like dating Mary. and. So No. Other siblings not going to. Name. Any. Names. They were dating just 'cause and I was like, no mom and Dad said, we can't do it. So I wasn't really dating at all but the thing was people were I was I was. Hanging out with girls and it was of this thing was like man like maybe this could be the wine whatever right and it was one of those things where. Coach who? Who Look and he was a follow Jesus in strength coach for repairs on the cardinals and he didn't go to the same church meeting invited me to church what's and he's like man you gotta meet this girl man she's beautiful. You'll love her she's from Africa you know and I'm like, Dude. Just 'cause I'm like Nigeria or just because my fares doesn't automatically gonNA marry this girl from it. And so and Africans have pretty big continent you know so but. Go Out and meet girls all these things and I was like man, it's something didn't have this desire to be married but. Is it is it the girl at the restaurant who serving Sushi is a share? You know and so finally over one of my teammates Incas Campbell six, eight, three, hundred pounds right. But he's the nicest guy in the world and. He knew everything about me is my best friend. New Likes and dislikes and other things. So I go to Nigeria funny enough There's maybe this is different sort of a different time, but there's another girl they tried to set me up with this Olympic the girl who was in the Olympics, whatever Girl? No No. No. Just just like Olympic actually. Girl and like they knew that I would you know like I've been. Saving my I was I was version I was waiting to America right and they're like this girl she's virgin and Olympic athletes. He's beautiful and and and I was like I just chill. This is children. All right, but I go to. I go to Nigeria. Class my teammate comes with me and we get off the plane and he sees Ghazi. And he stops me and says Bro who is that? he said, he said, she beautiful are related. And on my Mind you on that fight over there. Collapse was telling me about a girl that he had been falling in love with something like, okay. Tell me about this other girl why don't we get her back ups? Right I said no, we're not related name was and Gazi we've known each other for years. He said drought what are you waiting for? Maybe what are you waiting for? And I said well, I don't know man like I've known her for years. I'm kind of honestly a little bit ashamed because how crazy would I look right this nfl player now and that was all the time where there was like the cat fishing stuff going on. I'm saying I got this girl from Nigeria south crazy. Right. We're GONNA. Make you do interviews like like the kid with the. Girlfriend. Right, right. He said he said he said, not what are you waiting for it but it does everything you've ever talked about it more, and so we actually kind of pushed me into having a conversation I was hoping to have and and we started the conversation started talking and. Funny enough. I was I told you I was shying awkward and Weird. And so I was scared to talk to her will one day about halfway through the trip she was doing the wakeup call we get about six am or so six thirty and she knocked on our door class. Now we're we're rooming together and my dad's compound in the village and edgier she knocks on our door six am and and she says, Hey, just let you all know we have devotion in about thirty minutes. and. We'll go out on the field. My cool thanks, and then she stopped she says Oh and by the way I've loved to talk to you sometime today if you have a chance. Man She stayed up all night thinking about that. was like she likes you still won't kill out. I didn't realize was the day before and we are in Gazi not tell the story differently but. I gotTa also her way the day before we were serving that mission field. There were some young girls. They're twelve eleven, twelve year old girls, and we were just I was outside laughing joke with talking hanging out and they saw and we're just talking, will they see in Gazi walkout from inside the Medical Center we were serving at. Thirty yards away they see her. And these young girls right out of nowhere they like Whoa. Who is that? She's she's beautiful. Is that your wife? And I'm like a God is. So. Anyways we started conversation then, and so the way seat tells it. That's Kinda. Got It in her head a little bit, and that's you have the conversation we she said that the next day and I was like, would you like to talk? Yes sure maybe I duNNo. Abba I don't know you know so I look at the time yard twenty, four, twenty, three, three about twenty, three years old, twenty, three, twenty, four. And so some time that day we find time and I'm like well would you WanNa talk about right you wanted to talk right on be obviously this is. So cool. You're such a monster I'll I was scared. I was scared I was not planning by any means I was like. And so I said, well, what do you want to talk about right and she's she looks at me she says. I think I like you. And I'm like. I I like you to use I like me together what and so and so I'll say will own now that that's out there. What what should we do next, right? Yeah, and she says, well, we pray. We should pray and I mean at that point I was sold right out that. I'm supposed to be the guy who's leading worship and all these things that we should pray, and so we prayed and kind of continue the conversation. I left. We of Dated Long Distance Super Long Distance Thousand Miles. And It was actually really hard. It was really hard because I'd never really been in a real relationship. I've dated a couple of girls and never really worked out because I never I just was probably scared and didn't want to commit and all the things and it was pretty difficult. We about three or four months and glad that was in the summer and I left there to go continue my football season in America America and a few months and I remember calling when Dan said Hey I think we need to cut this off like it's it's not God's will we're not compatible at you know it's it's not working out Alao. Right and she she this is like a story, the picture of WHO my wife is. Right. So she she picks up the phone until. All right cool. And I'm like, Oh, well, that was easy right. Hang up the phone like Oh nice. My cough out work like that was easy. She calls back a few minutes later and she actually says. She says I'm not going anywhere unless you tell me that it's over. Unless you tell me that we're done I'm not going anywhere. I like ourselves much I'll tell us bathing and and obviously I couldn't I couldn't I was trying to a little punk right trying to be I can say it I couldn't say that. I remember having a conversation with my dad and my dad just we're not compatible actually doesn't she doesn't laugh at my jokes, the language barrier the whole thing, and he's like dude, what he's like you can't base compatibility based off of conversations go spend time with her. Right like go spend some time with their and and so that season ended on December thirtieth on January. First, all's on a flight to Nigeria to go spend time with their in that that about ten day trip over there and those ten days after that trip I knew Oh. Yeah. She she was the one I went back a few months later proposed in March of two, thousand thirteen, and then we go back into our traditional Nigerian wedding in June of twenty thirteen, which is in in. Nigeria. In the in a there's two thousand people there. Yield like it was a Beautiful Hill. People. Two thousand. Two. Thousand People like adding. We had to those people. So we bought like we got some cows like got some big old VATSA rice some goats literally like they bought goats bought our house and got this rice and all these things and and we made food and I mean the pots were is biggest like I'm I'm I'm a big I couldn't even wrap my hands around half of it. Yeah. And these huge spoons used to mix in their long and no, and so anyways we said. Two thousand people in did our traditional June wedding and around that's how far for her to come to America. Right because she was been before and father visa paperwork and anyone who's seen the movie ninety day fiance we kind of do that whole. That whole deal. So she got accepted we say scam to America in January and February two, thousand fourteen and we got married in March. American, wedding was in March okay yeah. Wow. So technically over why you're quarantined in your house this summer seven years. Exactly exactly how okay. So is the you know everybody talks about a seven year itch this is win y'all you know you kind of the council who's next door to our office actually talks about how he's been married five times but it's been the same Wa the same woman every time. Marriage keeps changing. Tell me about y'all's family time during quarantine and like kind of seven years and who you are now and you have this book, let the world. See you coming out when this episode releases, it comes out tomorrow and so I mean, tell me who you are now and what you know now that you didn't know seven years ago. We've changed a ton early on I was I was a punk and I'm still learning. I'm still trying to figure it all out I. Mean it was so bad and a lot of ways 'cause I the Bible's clear on my husband's this husband's like leave your mother and father and cling to your wife. Yeah and I had really never left a lot of ways if we ever had an issue in argument in any man who listen to this. They probably can relate hopefully they're growing out of this, but any time we had a disagreement. Early. On our marriage I'll go to my dad and my mom well, what do you think about this and of course, they would side e an Alvis and there's some there's a rift in our relationship and then and then I would also grudges and she sits online and like I would keep it in I wouldn't address it. So that was the first year. So I was just trying to we and it was fun I don't get me wrong. We were having a blast where we were traveling and doing things and united, but it was. I I was super immature and even now six seven years in right. I'm still learning and growing I actually meet with the counselor and we had a conversation a couple of weeks ago and even talking about marriage and even say you may be going into a different phase of your marriage right? A phase of more truth telling right because oftentimes. One of my issues people pleasing right I want to make everybody happy I mean that's really what this book is about. Is How to actually be who you are. Yes exactly. Exactly and so I'm learning to be me a with my with my wife. Man and you'll have one son. We have to. So this is the INSTAGRAM, right? Say. I did all the talking I could do and I've followed you for a long time and I still didn't know. Yes I like it I like. Mr. Yes we have three kids. We have a five year old boy caleb, his name is Caleb Ci Naza, Para I Cho- right. A pyramid God answers prayers we. gave him that name because we really believe that that's God doesn't allies and even Kayla Kit which Are we have a three year old daughter named Sophia and her Herbert they actually is in a week from our from when this release, it will be celebrating her and she'll be war Her middle. Name. Is John which an IBO means It sounds like a sendoff right safe journey. Welcome. Thank you for coming right and then we have a two year old boy named Kelekci Victor Show Colletti means thank God and Victor. So someone's like saying God for victory. So. Those playing around naming. Were playing around. Yeah. So we got three kids to girl that's so fine. Talk about. You said Caleb is named. The Middle Name is about how God answers prayers. We love talking about prey around here and our our friends listen live like here in how how do you hear the Lord and what's your prayer lifelike. That question actually talk about this in the book a little bit. There's a chapter called learning the listen and our how I hear the Lord. For me. It's not just talking praying God and Jesus name we pray. It's also spent a Lotta time just listening what I mean by that is all wake up whether it's earlier find some I'm quiet and just go by myself. Almost word people can use his meditate but just. Just like listen right and have a conversation. With me in the spirit of God man's I'm feeling right now and I was like, what do you think about because the Bible's clear like We hear his voice, right a sheep hear his voice and and even. Thirty thirty one or thirty, three, three talks about says you call upon me and I'll answer you and I'll tell you the great in things you didn't know and on my heart God I believe your words i WanNa know and so I spent a lot of time just having conversations with God. Especially, in the morning, right when kids are asleep in just quiet and then a couple times a week Osman time just going through scripture and just trying to really remind myself of male. What does what did Jesus actually say? Right we have these stories. I remember you know. Every stories of people say you know these? euphemisms people gave like, oh. What's in the Bible says about was like is that in really in the Bible right? Is that really what you know and Katie has a song. That just came out and he said man you you really WanNa be like these. This may have to go flip some tables you know what I mean. Isn't just this Super kind he was flipping tables and he was a calling out injustice and he was speaking up for those speaker for themselves and so for me hearing that voice is going through scripture one it's it's meditating and like listening to the spirit of God that piece that you feel right through situations to and then also just conversations with friends I mean. I'll get calls of most random tops at a time where I'm really struggling with something or feel something someone will call and give me a word of encouragement are all being an uber something? It'll be like that's exactly what I needed to hear. Is just taking a brief pause in our conversation with Sam share about one of our partners ritual. 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How do you know people asked us a lot when we when our guests in friends will come on the show and talk about hearing God for themselves How do you know the difference when it's God talking to you and when it's you talking to you and your head. Absolutely. So I, like we got a couple of voices, right if you got your own voice in your head that the the enemy, the devil, your head be right and that, and then also the voice of God. Yeah, and so for me the way I know it's God is I will feel like an immense sense of peace. I feel a sense of peace and it might sound or seem crazy what I'm hearing or whatever, but I'll just feel it's not a feel peace about it. Writing and also it'll it'll. It'll concur with what's in the word of God, says, you're reading scripture you know it's like Y- proverbs twenty, nine fifteen says the fear of man brings a snare but but he trusts the Lord, will be Exalted Right. So if the voice I'm hearing is a force of fear scared something don't don't do that. It's like is that really? God. Or is that my own fears? Right, so but if I hear a voice of like Hey, I'm with you. I'm with you do not be afraid or almost a sense of like it's okay then I know it's the Lord and so. Obviously if it's like confusion and I could cite you know that's not that's not good. Yeah and you, I, mean three times. Now you've quoted scripture that helps you know God's voice versus any of the other voices. Telling me about memorizing that and and why is it important for you specifically to have Scripture like that like in you not just in the book that you own. Yes well, the last one I just read off of a thing that I wrote down this morning two days ago right? It's just right in front of you. It's exactly for me. It's writing it down so. When I was single and you know early in my NFL career and just how time in the world I remember. I say time in the world it's really not like I didn't have was you say that aware that I have far more time for anti you have for Sam. Not Offensive to anyone single. We recognize we can wake up when we want to wake up. Yeah. But is a dealer maturity. I will say right now deal of maturity of like you can be married immature single immature yourself for me like don't matter maturity maturity right in time management and all the things and so I remember there was a time where I would. Get up and just like go through scripture right down the verses and memorize them whatever and for whatever reason I started to get away from that I. Really did I don't know if it was when we started having kids whatever enough. When that happened I felt people have this. Fantasy of like what it's like sometimes to have kids would be married. It's always what it's cracked up to be cause for me. I know when I when we had our first son like so much of the things I didn't like about myself I saw him. And so talk about pain and frustration and all the things. So I've noticed when I get away from scripture. That's when things don't go well with me and I've noticed when when I feel like stressed out oftentimes, only thing that'll get me back to like sanity is going back to the word of God right or listen to music right a love of the hill song and Loughrey and everybody. Listening to or just writing right and so those are a few things. But without that, I'm like man I'll just be. It'll be all bad I'll bet for your boy. These still journal. I do and generally for me, it's not like daily life for me. It's just like all five seasons of life for times in life where I just need to right right. I don't need to write and college or call it what you wanted to some people. It's like Kay every day got a date. That's not me. I'm more like Brown stressed out like I'm struggling I depend on the pad I start writing down with some heart so oftentimes. oftentimes, all I'll just be writing and it'll be talking about man like. This up. About Theresa's from you're journal and that feels like a real exclusive. Getting here I give it to do I. Doubt there's any. So I gotta gotta come correct. It's on June fifth. This is right after. We what we saw with. George Floyd was killed in and Amara Berri and and then also the protests and writing looting. I wrote this I wrote my heart is heavy. Saying the devastation. Seeing the people. My heart hurts. And I know exactly what to do. HOW TO CHANNEL THAT ENERGY? How to be obedient. But. It's going to cost me something. It may just cost me everything. Before that Albert right on that same day. I. wrote a feel like we're all so close. So close to the freedom that God has for us. So close to the joy we've been chasing so close to the dream. Years Ago Israel was close to the Promised Land If they all wanted to go back why? Because freedom isn't free. Freedom costs something. It cost time it costs resources it may even costing your life. Freedom isn't. Free. But I feel like we're all so close. So for me any? Yeah like that's like my heart I'm glad you wrote a book Guy We got a whole set of that because. That is really profound. Yeah. Yeah, and it's funny because I wrote that down and I don't go back to it often but a few days later, and that's when me and some friends got a chance to go to the west side of Chicago we. Got Open up all this all these doors but we got a chance to purchase liquor store turned into a food mart in Chicago. Right that I didn't even know this is going to happen blew up. It's got like a million people live talked about. There's a video on Youtube, right? We could watch. You can watch in and it's funny. I didn't know that was going to happen but my heart wrote that's right and even with the book like that was an outpouring of my heart and so do I journal daily? No, but but his writing therapy for me. Yes. And also I mean and and that is a very real life example of journaling a prayer and then watching got answer you may have forgotten how deep that prayer really was for you if you wouldn't have written it down. But because you it down and then he saw that happen just days later in Chicago you're like Oh that the Lord answered what I pray Yeah. Yeah. Do you journal Oh? Yes. Man I like I'm almost every day I try to write down now I haven't been. That hasn't been every season of my life but for the last probably five years I, try to journal almost every day. I see such value in it for myself. Now, a lot of people have the fear of what if someone else finds this and what if my so and so read sister my kid reads whatever and so I know that there are people who fear about that. But for me I'm like, no, these are all my friends know to burn these when I die. So yeah. Okay. So I'll share with you one of the things that that the journal entries of mind can you share and that'd be Vadim, but like away a prayer got answered right over the last few months or something that got did yeah. Sounds like someone has their own podcast. Hosted by CAST. Okay. Let me think through what I've written lately that I know. Well, here's the other thing. I have a big sticky note on my wall where I pray for. Like I'm noticing that I was praying only for my own stuff. and. I. Was like I. Don't ever tell people pray for things and I forget to so I got those real big sticky notes and hung up in my room where I read impre and and so I have all my friends names and what's going on in their lives and what to be praying for them up on the wall and win the Lord answer something I literally wrote answered and I put the date and. So I've only done it this year I've done since the start of two thousand twenty, which is hilarious. So in my mind, I've been thinking like, okay in December I start a new one like why move this into the side and start a new one and transfer over all that to say, there's one on there of a friends whose kids whose baby had a heart transplant. And they were praying he would go home before Easter and he went home on like like literally three days before Easter they got out of the hospital. Yeah and so I wrote answer that and then like someone broke up with me and I was like answer like like it but answered I can answer over his name because that's not going to be that the Lord answered my prayer I said, I put that person's name they're going Lord is this you is this is this your story, your talent, and even I don't love the answer is still the answer. Right. So. Those are the do the come to my. Just you and me talking with people listening. That's I, I love it there the time actually two years ago almost to the day and I was hearing this picture with a friend I. I tore my pectoral muscle out planned for the Chicago bears tour my pick out for the season and funny enough talk about answered prayer I had been praying and it's like the this is like talking about how the book came about like events like these right I'd be saying. I got what? What am I doing here? And what am I doing here? Right, I I on the outside things looked like they were going great outside a new deal with the team and I was. Supposed to be the starter and it was like bunch of money and it goes like multi year contract with every. Year by year, it was like multi million dollars everything else been like very bare minimum for NFL guys and I was not happy at all at all and. I was like, well, we got football and I'll be I'll be focused on my job and that's people go to marriage. If people go to kiss, we will go to all these things walk satisfy right this I have this and and then all of a sudden I? Get benched right because we traded for this superstar Khalil Mack. Like a once in J-, they've called him a generational talent. All really. Don't you remember I was in that spot before he got a hand. Trade for him I get benched I get bad. So it's supposed to be my best and so not playing which which I get. Right? There have been times in the past you've been best well, Hey, I'm not gonNA play the game I'm GonNa make practice game I'm GonNa take practice seriously and all the things and I won't even practicing why because Khalil into the reps he was on any team and new kosher. So I wasn't playing number one. I wasn't practicing number two I'm sitting here like God what the? Heck what do you want me to do here? I don't want him. I supposed to do and it was funny. There was some really cool like social justice and left. That's the term they used at the time like opportunity just real options to help change the city of Chicago that I really wanted to be involved with to lead the team in that way. But I didn't have any time because we had all the games and practices and whatever praying God, what do you want me to do two years ago? Two years ago. How would you going to do and two years ago to the day almost to the day? I was on a routine play in the middle ending the first quarter of the game and tear my pick out for the season and have a picture that I took in the in the locker while the game's going on and it shows says Sam Acho. Pet. Injury pectoral status is GonNa, come back or not says out and and I remember just feeling an immense sense of peace. Says if peace because I, because I knew that God answered my God, what do you want me to do? I would have been really excited about this other stuff and football. So I if I'm not gonNA play, I'm not gonNA play and the cool thing was I went full force on like that social justice. So I was joking about earlier about I was in the I chose nachos super. Bowl. While I was actually in a real super bowl commercial for the social justice stuff we did in Chicago. and. So like for me talking about answer prayers and not in writing down in a journal I wrote it down in my book about how God answers prayers and. It just I mean, there's something about your story, my store like these moments of going like we have to I said to someone yesterday I was like I have to thank God for the closed doors as I thank him for the open ones. Because it's still him answering I may not like it but he still did exactly what I asked him to do, which is pleased. Direct me. And you go like, Oh, I didn't mean ABC should have been more specific. Exactly a multimillion dollar football player for a lot of seasons. I said do what you want. Right right by. His. Kindness to to take time and it's what you're saying to take time and go I. Believe this is you still answering my prayers? Even. If it's not the way I wanted it to look. Yeah tell me how that plays into. Let the world. See you like now. Would you have written a book two years ago if you were still playing football are absolutely not no shot no chance won't even in the stratosphere any. Conversation funny enough. and. I told you about getting benched in getting injured while a few a few weeks before then. I was actually sitting down with a friend and after the big contract and I was getting ready to start the season week wherever training camp and everything on the outside look like it was great. But on the inside, I was really not doing well. And sit down with a friend. I in tears. In Tears San Man I just need the season I need to get back to where I need to get back to the season back to football. Then everything will be okay and he looked at me said, Sam, he said if this is how you are right now. I'm afraid. What happens when when football ends for you when you retire And I'm looking at him and he says, Hey, you never know maybe God is writing a book in your life. And you may only be on chapter two Is. What he said right in the midst of that too also said owned by the way Sam. It's nice to see you. And I'm like because I was like I don't I don't I don't try to show people that I cry that I'm Wendy Gary and I'm crying and it was like real like. Like. You know like heaving and he says nice to see you. So what are you talking about? He said? Man Up. For about eight ten years almost and I've never seen this side of you. You always show the side of perfection having altogether, and this is really refreshing to see. And so he actually was what who record he said about the book because writing a book, he recommended I go talk to a counselor, and so I did and as I'm talking to the counselor yesterday question, he says, Sam, what do you do when you get angry talking here about how the book even came about? That what did you when you get angry and I look at him and I say, well, look up with a smile on my face and say, well I I I don't get angry I mean come on man what do you do when you get angry? And I, say I just I just try not to get angry and he says everybody gets angry share. What do you do and? Out of nowhere start crying again. Well. And he looks at me and he says. It's nice to see you sam in Oh by the way get used to hearing that. Wow, you like. Are you preaching into my life right now? And so the next day he he actually is wanting recommended, I, start journaling start writing ask start leaving, listening to music and you know because I, you know. I listen to music just to get up forget not just how the Kashmir and so so the next day I that day that night I met with that that night reporter training camp, and we kind of do a team meeting I go back to my dorm room and start journaling and writing down in tears again, right? Why Micro? What is going on right? God, coming after my heart and I, and it was just so gently and so kind and so loving and I was like, leave me alone. I'm good and and so I go to practice the next day we have our what's called a conditioning tests which kinda run around and see if everybody's in shape and so finished a conditioning tests. Most of the guys had gone in the locker room took a shower went to go get some food and I just went in there and sat down. Just, sat down plop down in the chair. When my teammates saw me. And he said they show you good usually. Usually I would say I'm I'm fine I'm just tired or whatever. My Man I'm not. I'm not doing good. Back me said they made you but you gotta let that out. Whatever's going on inside of you gotTa let it out. Is So start crying again. This is wild. The time line of this how this is all just happening literally, it was like it was like an avalanche. Crying again, another teammate walks in and he sees me ride you you know counselors that right listen to music and the night before I was writing, listen all these worship songs about love and it's kind of the the next day. Right cry my team another teammate walks in he sees me and immediately he goes to his fall which had the playlist on locker. The sound sound the other speakers on the locker room and change the playlist from the country rap whatever type of music was going on in their. To Worship Music Allah to and not only any kind of worship. It was the same set of songs that I've been listening to the night before. No joke songs about God's love. Songs about his kindness care and. I start. Really like is now I'm really like. Crying Yeah and he looks at me and he says they arch. Look, he says. It's nice to see you. Oh my gosh and I'm like are y'all is this like a who like are what is happening and so And so Fast Food and after I'm done done with the tears down with don't right. So I go I go you know go to go to a room and go to sleep wake up the next morning. Now I'm like I'm not listen to any of this worships I'm not listening any of that. I think I've Loughrey Song Song called what you mean like what you mean which is like a bike got that on my headphones going to practice and that's My headphones by I had to plug in my phone was in my pocket and all of a sudden I thought I, had it on repeat but the song change when it when it ended. And Song, changed from what you mean to a song called. I lost my hearts to you. saw by Hilson not of course and mind you this whole time God was just tapping on my heart. And so that song came on I started to fill these emotions come and I'm trying to turn trying to change and it's not turning off. Going back to the. Crate. And and they had us on these golf carts that would take him to the dorm the press stop the car, stop the car so. I take my headphones off but I'm not doing this right now and and funny enough the night before I texted to to our staff members from the team and I said Hey just pray for me because I don't know what to do with these emotions right? That was so kind of get myself together put my headphones back in, go back to practice and as and as soon as I walked towards our locker room area I see one of the staff members name is John Gibson one of the seven-member Swat texted the night before she's our team Dietitians she's a believer as well And she had texted me I saw her text message that was response and Hey, got his for you. He's with you might we're not going anywhere the NFC her and all the sudden I feel the avalanche starts starting at and so I like rush behind some corner and she follows me and I'm crying crying crying. It's almost like as if the spirit of God was on her, she just put her hand on my shoulder and said like it's Ok God with you. He left and I was like, no, don't know what's going on. It's okay. It's kind of like and I'm crying crying and. Had to get myself together and we're kind of walking back. Around the corner where all the guys are. And she says hey SAM honestly, we're all going through some stuff. This is actually the same time and place where I found out that we lost our baby right she had a miscarriage. Right, this the same time this time last year and heard that and I just got so bad turned back around like God. Why are you? Like these were these a good person what do you do not fair. My John's like, no no. Sam Now no other we gotta go this way is this way? It was just a seat. It was just like I was allowing God in Yeah I was allowing them in and so well, he went he went and giving you much of a choice Sam based on that story. Right, he did have to let him in your right, but may have what a pursuit story. Yeah. Yeah. So that's Kinda like how the idea of the you know all these things about what it means. You know this nice to see you. Nice to see you see you and then fast forward a mentioned I some have with my wife actually where we had our third child. Colletti. Victor was born and funny enough. Does he was a big old baby like ten pound six ounces I use a huge boy there. It was the third c section and he came out fine everything was good. This is kind of a week or two after all this that you've heard well, I'm in the hospital with my wife right as I said I'm going to spend the night with her right twelve hours after my youngest son was born I wake up in the middle of the night in the hospital, right? Because I'm there with her asleep on a little chair thing. To a room full of nurses and a doctor and my wife screaming in excruciating. Pain Gosh. And I'm like and I've been I've done hospital visits before. Liberty. Yeah I've seen the nurses rush in, but I've never it's ever been me in that room and my wife. So she apparently, it was a from. She had blood clots and they had to go into another surgery to remove these blackhawks. I didn't know what was going to happen I was scared I forget how God what is going on How do you hear God's voice on my crying out and they wilder off right because they're like she's like I don't want to do another surgery. They're like out do another, which is that I want to do another one. And she's like I'm not you're not putting me to sleep. You're not dumb not doing and they said, they said Ma'am if we don't put you to sleep, you may not make it. My Gosh and so. My wife is a she's very strong willed, but she let them take your. God what is happening? I didn't sign up for this what is going on? And I said got off. We've been doing Bible studies all the things about about God's power in. It's telling the wind and the waves to cease and all the things in raising Lazarus. My God, just say the word and she'll be fine. Just say just say the word and and as I'm yelling screaming I just felt this heard this. Voice piece of. She's GonNa be fine. And I'm like, cool find good. Ask. That happened and then she came back and she was okay. But then like I said I got benched a few weeks later got you know tore my a few weeks after that I lost a mentor a good friend who was a great friend of mine and he passed away. He died from cancer. My house flooded a few weeks after that I got released from the team all these. Months in like a few months fan span. and. So and lastly, right we're we're supposed to go to South Korean wife and hours going to go to South Korea five year anniversary trip and it was all planned out it was going to be great. It's going to speak at this business school and do a football camp and and her wallet gets stolen. Her Wallet and Module. She's not a US citizen hawala had her green card in it her citizenship. Right so she couldn't go on the trip. And and so she says you committed you gotta go. So I went and as I'm there on that trip, we did the camp and spoke at the thing and my friend who was out there with said, hey, we'll have all this stuff set for you and your wife, but she's not here. It's available if you want to go I, don't know if you can. Company I said GonNa. I'm just GONNA rest to go to sleep wake up the next morning or wake up in the middle of the night actually, and then I just started writing I gotta started writing and that was writing about like weird things about death in about Hain about shame and all these things I rose writing and writing writing and I came back from that trip. I called up my friend and I said Hey man remember that book you talked about. Me Being on, chapter to Sania. I said I. Think I'm on Chapter Twelve. Now give me to the closest publicist or something 'cause out publisher gravity and so that's how this book came about Oh. Gracious. A friends just interrupted this conversation one more time to tell you real quick about another. One of our amazing partners envied as a small business owner something I've always been super intentional about is who we add to our team hiring the right person for the job is a game changer. But how do you find those qualified candidates for the roles you have open indeed is. Here, to help indeed dot. com is the number one job site in the world because indeed helps you find the right people fast unlike other sites indeed gives you full control payment flexibility over your hiring. You literally only pay for what you need and you can pause your account at any time. There are no long term contracts plus indeed provides powerful tools to make your search. That, much easier. 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No No, I'm excited I'm I know is fire like I know that book is. Far. Yeah because it was like it was it was almost as if like God was writing those words, right? Here's what I mean by that like usually when I work I, have to be in complete silence and I I get distracted and at for whatever reason the only times I could write was when I had my headphones on listening to music. and. I'm the most like I get distracted so easily and he's my singing the least. But yeah, would I would put the music on and I would I would have to go and right now would go and I would start re the writing with a pen or typing something out and I'll just go and go and go and stop I'll take my headphones off and I would go back and read what I wrote and I'd be like Bra. Right straight up who wrote this in so many ways, and so I knew I really felt like it was inspired by the spirit of God and so that's that's why I'm more than excited about this and and And I I just know that this message. Is What people need to hear that you'd like to be seen to be known to be love and my friend passed away in the middle of all this right out of the next door neighbor my mentors was Jerry Pricey at cancer, fighting it for years, and finally posted a message on facebook asking for permission to go. And I'm like. Yeah, what do you mean the same? Jerry. Who We go to your house all the time, and we were supporting them like transport financially and praying all things. And so. I call them. And you could tell he was only in about twenty percent of the straighten his voice left and he said man. I was ready to see. Jesus Right he was seventy seven years old married for fifty plus years right? He's like, I'm. I'm ready to see Jesus. And on like we'll do. I don't know what you want me to say number one but before you. Before I get off this phone I need to hear here's something from you. So he's what you need to hear. I said whatever you got. Give me what? You know going now telling me everything. Yeah he says we'll say I'm he says, we'll see him I got two things for you. He says. The number one, the most important thing you can do on this earth is what I've learned in my seventy plus years on this earth, my fifth years married all the kids and the ministry and all the things. He said the most important thing you can do. is to get to know Jesus intimately. Intimately said, you will get no greater joy in this on this earth in this life. Then when you get to know Jesus and God gets no greater joy than you're getting to know. Jesus intimately spend time with them. Sam Get to know Jesus. There's nothing better. Any paused. and. I'm like you said two things that come up like, right And he said the second thing I want you to know this is mind you any any this in the midst of all that I was going through? Pain frustration sadness said the second thing I want you to know Sam. Is that you are worth getting to know. Wow. Never forget that you are worth getting to know. and. So my hope he will be the last words I heard from. You actually would slip into a coma few days later actually got on a flight to go and see him and that same lady Janet actually I was wife called me. As wife called me and said, he's in Komen I remember I gotTa say Goodbye essentially an I went slit slits layoffs look into Jen's office. Now I'm crying hen writes a friend and I'm like, what do I do 'cause we have practice all the things and Jenner looks at me after I hang up she says an, no one's going to be mad at you if you go and see your friend who's about to die right? Like no one's GonNa what are they going to be and so I get on a plane and Fortunately I just missed him He had passed away right before I got there but But those words? Are Etched In my heart, it's not even at just more like. You Know David and Goliath you write the story like it says when he put the the the slingshot line. Yeah. Like the stones sunk in Goliaths head like those words. Into my heart. Worth getting to know my goal for anybody who reads this book or who picks up. This is why I'm excited about it. I'm not nervous because I want people to understand like I got a chance to understand that they are worth getting to know you are worth. Getting to know get to know Jesus and understand that you are worth getting to know man that's a i. mean that is profound for so many people and the idea that it's all wrapped up and let the world see you and we can. One of my favorite things about books as we can put it in someone's hand and when they read it, they go I should call and ask her about this it like is always a conversation starter. And so what a gift it is that you have written this for us. So. Super. Thrilled far for an anytime. An NFL player writes a book I'm like, yes. More books that Dude's will be excited Terry. Yeah So thrilled. Listen you know what we need to talk about when you just reminded me that you played for the bears is lorraine. I just had this conversation about what happened with the Falcons. Oh we could talk about it. Let's just. Let's just have a minute of the home team podcast. pod You do with our friend Steve Carter and another friend of the show, another Sam, and so the three of Y'all have sports pod. Steve. Doesn't even call you Sam Right. What does he call both of Y'all? Well, he call he calls he calls Sam. Samantha ponder he calls her ponder and he calls me so. We have an argument I'm like, Sam because people say I love Sam Sam you love. Here on the home. Let's just talk sports for just a minute. Absolutely. What about the Falcons? Yeah I mean, that was A. Fair your heart, not not that I loved it per se but it's more of like a hangover. It's I. Didn't love it because because I mentioned a Homey I. Didn't like the fact that Miss Got Bench I was a trash move like you can't bet body two weeks into the season having won, Bazzi any sense, right? We're GONNA. Do that start with Nick foles from the beginning but anyway. Right. Right here nor there right but. But I was. You know I'm not a and a drinker, but the the Falcons are still hung over from that twenty sixteen at at twenty seven teen Super Bowl loss to to the Patriots the two, thousand, sixteen, season two, thousand, seventeen super bowl. That you start with. Do you remember is I can still tell you what I was wearing the day. They were winning the super at halftime and lost to Tom Brady, virtually Tom Brady radio. We're a by I think maybe twenty, eight, three, six. Twenty to shore up by. Dion End, Sanders Jersey on. and. So to lose that game I, mean that's almost impossible to come back from and so then that was twenty, two, thousand, sixteen, season, two, thousand, seventeen in the came back and made the playoffs but lost, I believe in the first round and then the last few years just been trapped I mean? I'd say we always been trash vampire. Rock like last year specifically start off I think one in six or seven or something, and you came back you came back and save the coach's job. Right? You Save Dan Quinn's job but not in no player on that team. Can't win anything anymore Matt Ryan, the Super Talents Tog early there, and he's awesome and Julio Julio and Calva relief really good and the defense is fast and all the things and rain. Morris. The is really good. DC. But there's no getting over that after that loss would happily y'all did was y'all try to put the blame on the coaches you're fired offense coordinator finally, Defense Coordinator, special teams, coordinator, right, and then you'll try to get some new players but the thing is like there's a confidence piece, right? So so Atlanta That was that was three years ago, fast four, two, three weeks ago when Atlanta was playing the cowboys up by sixteen eighteen in the fourth quarter and to go back and learn more painful than any other part of this conversation. I know. Right now you know and we go back and lose. So I was like no I. Don't think anybody was surprised maybe falcons fans may be were surprised, but I'll anybody was surprised when they lost to the bears we expect like the play calling I needed Sam brief now sam go. Listen I need you know the problem with the Falcons fan is we're always surprised why why am I always surprised I'm surprised every time we lose a game in the fourth quarter and we always lose a game in the fourth quarter. Yes. So you don't need a new y'all need a new. A. New. Culture new culture because they can't get over that that that's interesting because I was going to ask you who we need. If there was a section of people that need to be replaced if it's coaches or offense or defense, but it's a culture problem, it's a cultural problem. Yeah. Because people go in when they play Atlanta they know we got this in the bag even if they cut now bears no but hear me out here me. Now I'm not gonNA. Let me not go crazy on this. But what I mean by that is we we everybody knows Atlanta super talented I met Ryan's putting up like Godley numbers believable like really Julio is almost ungovernable, right? Some of those defensive players are legit like beasts. But there's something about that confidence piece of Hey, we're we're in the game you saw what happened in. Dallas, you saw what happening shook when they place your Kogyo right? We're still in this game so that that gives the opposing team a confidence to know I remember when I was in college replant Texas Tech we were down by twenty one in the fourth quarter we for Texas right I'll play for the I play for University of Texas and back the National Championship and and all the things that we were mopping up. All the other teams right and so we knew. This is this is Texas at and they're better. They're better now but we knew we're GONNA win it. We came back we scored twenty four points. The fourth quarter we won by three, and that's my people have with Atlanta and until they get new culture that mindset, it's not going to leave see this is why you're my people Sam because we can go deep into hearing God and deep into find long of guide pursuing you and telling you the story, and then we can talk real hard stuff about the falcons. About what other other teams no I love talking? I mean. Really I think healthy life is being able to talk about your favorite restaurant and what God's saying to you and your Atlanta Falcons the same conversation. Yes. Thanks. Tell me one more. Let's talk more sports saying let's talk about the home team Pod, for just a minute Y- everybody's grabbing let the world see when it comes out tomorrow they should also be listening to the home team pod. Yes. Absolutely. So the home team podcasts I'm I'm really excited about it. It's me it's Samantha Ponder who's a host of Sunday countdown on on your ESPN and then Steve Carter who's the man he's an octogenarian pass three lives out in in Kelly other really cool series on g called Evening Song and It's unbelievable. So is the Intersection of sports, faith culture, and social issues right even family too because we're all parents. Mary and all the things but also we love sports. We Love Jesus, and we also we can't ignore what's going on in culture and so. That's our podcast and we love it. We It's funny. The day we start in this. Story about the podcast but we had the idea and Kinda got assembled a team and we were going to meet up in Arizona to go and record day one of the puck. What are even going to be a real episode is going to be Seafood Mike each other and see if this is. Going to be good and I was getting ready to get on to go to the airport for a record the next day and and that's We have found out that Koby died. Alao unexpectedly. So nobody knew. Nobody knew like obviously it was like one of those things where it came out of nowhere like it was secret any helicopter crash him and Jonah and I believe nine other people helicopter crash and so. I remember getting a text from Sam. Saying, Hey, guys like. I don't know if I can do this tomorrow like and people wonder like they like. Play with Kobe's when your friends what is it? Why do you care so much but for me and for Sammy before Steve for anybody who loves basketball or? Sports I cope was an icon in some ways and yes, there was like there was I believe we're all beautiful and broken right so I think there's some there's some broken this as well in him but just looking at what he did on the court like The Majesty of what he did right to see him and even what he's doing off the court right? I'm adding more and the the broken this right There but I to lose him it was jarring. I didn't seem real and so I remember we got got an fight landed and I was even scarier muscle that man helicopters going down I know about this spirit that day too I don't know about the spirit airline. It's so So we landed in and I was like, Hey, we don't need to do this like that's totally okay. and. Knowledge you know I'm not. We pushed it back a little bit and that I first episode is an honestly like a two hour episode when he was supposed to be recorded but we were talking about. Kobe in about life and about heroes. Villains. And we were talking for like an hour and a half and were like, Hey, maybe we should press record now. So serious. So we press record and then what you hear on episode one is that conversation. So really we call it the home team podcast but the reality we call it like the home team small group because before even press record. As he calls. Yes. We're talking about life for about an hour or so. Record this podcast, and so you the home team podcast go listen go check it out. You know we just finished season once we're really pumped about that. and. That's actually loved about it is y'all started in February first episode is middle of February. And then from March till July, there are no sports fan sports pine, right but what it did, what it did allow was the space for us as listeners of your show to hear you talk about racial injustice and to hear you talk about the pandemic and to hear you talk in real time about what's going on in America and even there's a whole episode called shelter in place and each of you tell your story on a whole episode that probably wouldn't have happened in April if there would have been playoff baseball. And and so it just feels like at my overarching theme about your. Life. In this story is the Lord just does exactly the right timing in a real visible way with your life. And and that seems really true even with the home team podcasts that everything lined up and now you're talking about sports and we get to hear you do this deep dive stuff. On all sorts of different sports, things to but I. But because Y'all set the pace of talk about our real lives and we talked about racial injustice and we talk about what's going on in. America, anytime that comes back around your audience isn't going to be like what a weird left turn they're like. No, this is we know they are already. A love that I love that and this comes from the podcast clean over here. Man of Y'all you know that. Is there anything we didn't talk about the you WanNa make sure we cover I got one more for you but anything else. Yeah well, you can go at the question but and then I mean the biggest thing is I'm just dumped about this book man I just can't wait tomorrow right? Read it leave a review. I can't wait but but that's I mean that's like my joy. Okay I'M GONNA. Tell you my big piece of advice that our listener friends have heard. Me Say fifty five times at this point. Tonight. The Monday night before your book comes out on Tuesday is the night you should celebrate. Don't see what kind of numbers happen. Don't wait and see who shares it and weather. Every famous person you ever met tells people to read it what you need to celebrate tonight as you were obedient and you did the work and you did what? Ninety nine percent of people who dream of writing a book don't do. And so tonight's the night you eat big tonight's the night. You'll get a cake the night before a book comes out is the night you really celebrate because you've already been obedient God's already pleased. He's not looking for a list. He's not looking for how many books are sold how many influencers do it they do you've already pleased him and Y'all should celebrate before the book comes out. Man I got. That I'm doing it Y'all party I'm okay. The last question we always ask Sam well for starters. You know you are welcome back any time please please come on back anytime but the last question always asked because the show is called that sounds fun. Tell me what you will do for fun. Miss what we do for fun with especially with my little five zero we play a game and I it's not. It's getting less and less fun bigger. He gets. And he's a right we play a game called the fight game. It's literally like him just tackling me or punching your push. John. Right. So that's what like with with my son with my daughter she just loves like she just loves like. Taking care of people and then it. So it's like Daddy Daddy I want you know eating she calls it. Thank food. Bank food and a little two year old is he just? He's a victory just devastating this congress things in life and out what we love we love to eat and so like your hand Chicago right we're actually in Texas now. Because of the pandemic or because the pandemic Chicago and we've been missing our family forbids we said, let's just go and spend time with families. We went back to Texas in and we've been spending time with my family and my wife's family. Now, the a lot of her family moved from that area in. Texas. What part of Texas? Reaon. So Worrying Dallas. Cowboys. Hey, where are you eating? Tell me tell me the places that you are like if you have a date night and you got To we got one tonight we're going to a restaurant called Hill stone, my wife loves it used to be. A restaurant called Houston's people in Texas, and so the Houston's we always go to I. I just closed down because the people who own the land like they just shot up rent like three times it was maybe Out here we're out. Maybe Cobra. Millstones every Thursday you'll catch a casio's millstones and that's where we go. We love to eat lifted. Kinda of just dream will every now and again we'll get a chance to finally court and play basketball or race or something. She's super competitive the most competitive person. So that's what we do for fun as funny that professional athletes wife is the most competitive versus the family. Absolutely absolutely. Love it well, Sir I can't wait to tell her by about the book to make sure they grab a copy. Thanks for making time to do this today. I'm so grateful. No thank you so much and it was so much fun being on with you. We'll do it again man absolutely. Fred don't you love him? My gracious I mean I will take any friend any day that can jump from talking about here in God to talking about sports talking about podcasting, talking about family to tell us how he met his wife listen I am here for these kind of friends his new book. Let the world, see you releases tomorrow. Make sure you go ahead and grab a copy for yourself for any of your friends that you think would enjoy hearing the story and even as you're thinking towards Christmas what a great book to add to the pile of things you're given to the young men in your life to. Any athletes in your life to any of us that are growing in our faith. So make sure you grab a copy or a few of let the world. See You make sure you've always Sam on instagram telling thanks so much for being on the show today, and if you haven't checked out home team podcast, you should you should I love it? I, don't think it's a stretch to say it's my favorite Sports Pod I. Absolutely love it. Hey, if you need me, I'm embarrassingly easy to find any F- downs on instagram twitter facebook and as always on youtube at any F- downs T. s. f. like that sounds fun. And I think that's it for me today France. Hope you have a great week go out or stay home and do something that sounds fun to you and we'll see you back here on Thursday with another brokenhearted Atlanta. Falcons. Fan. Look Gray will be here with us on Thursday to talk about his new book as well. We'll see you guys on Thursday.

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Kelly Rowland Stands Solidly In Her Sexuality & It's A Whole Vibe!

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Kelly Rowland Stands Solidly In Her Sexuality & It's A Whole Vibe!

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I am so catalog hopelessly devoted to creating the absolute perfect baby-faced sailors like I will not stop until it's done and that's Hafer when slade. Karyn White's superwoman. I will take the story behind. Karen white super warm. When I was singing along so hard to that song that my dog barking at me. No she was like was like before we get into the big races that we all witnessed Monday night. I'm Charlie been on Corey. Murray yet has from coins and the day of his show. We have the one and only miskelly rolling back. Gal Kelly Rowland is back in actually. He's always snatched coughing video while she serving morning coffee. Honey have acquired by yes. Video was art. It was it. Was you know what it was the perfect escape? I need it because we we. We all feel like we're in prison but it was a lovely reminder ally accused and we will get to it we will get to it. One day I will melanin will be once again glistening in the sign on a beach. Yes yes you can have that. What is what is the first thing you're GonNa do you fill it safe because you know some states are about the start opening up like as soon as this week at the end of this week. Actually while going. I'm looking forward to peeking through my window to see how it goes with everyone else true and then I'm going to get back out. I'm going to be looking out the window like how's that working no but in all seriousness. I think the first thing I wanna do is like a little mini getaway because we were supposed to Vegas for my husband's early fortieth birthday. Which is April twenty nine and he was so excited and it was all planned out it was going to be amazing and it was cancelled so I think I want to try to make that happen for him. Okay okay what about you as well because I have you know we did do the escape from New York my family and I have been sheltering down in south Florida so I kind of felt like it's crazy that all has been a have kind of been on vacation. Doing air quotes Just because of the scenery that I've been able to see all night evening walks but I'm actually looking forward to light going. One thing I miss about New York Brooklyn is especially those large food halls where you have all types of Fuyang Tie Polish. You hadn't dumplings yet. Pizza and barbecue in specific Thinking about Dekalb Account Market at city point in downtown Brooklyn and. I didn't know that much. I love that place because like you said when it's safe when a safe safe right I would love to just go back in there and getting some many dumplings like I've been really wanting so many I actually dreamed about the Jamaican food around the corner from my house. Actually like I don't know how would that? Be Fatty propped up to but I knew was real with but speaking of food I made an entire meal for versus. Can we just go back there per second because please look lease? I say it was a tie because I realized Monday night. That comparing baby face teddy. Riley's hits is not apples to apples is not know as you point. I knew I do but just can we talk about the admit that was supposed to happen on Sunday if he asked. Oh the fail like when you like. The term epic fail took on a whole new meeting. And the thing about it is that they're not even that old you know but they were just bumbling around and the means Saturday night was a Mimi vent that will be. That was the event when they found that me with the old black men with those headphones on my God you know what yeah. I had to google their ages. 'cause I was thinking that but they face is sixty two but I mean we know some cool six sls. I mean I'm blessed room. Yeah because when I started following him like windy a nasty. We're GONNA do this. I was looking to his feet now. Like oh clearly. He doesn't utilize this like a lot of other people. Do you know what I mean like. You know he's not the duty of so it clearly is just to promote things but I gave him points for trying. But it was still a fiasco. It was hilarious fiasco when they kept talking to each other and trying to figure out how to go live together. I was there when we talk about the level of petty baby that I didn't know existed as he said they're eating his skittles talking about remix. My phone entity Pete. The two grammys just hurts in. The back arched cards. He grabbed that guitar effortlessly. It was arm's reach and that you know I haven't blazer. I wish I hope as soon as I hear. S. and L.'s back. I hope they do this this weekend. I really hope that they have to. It has to be keen in Chris Robinson have to. I could see it right now. They have to. Oh my God and I have to say my girl Chat. Shout out to my girls. My group chat. We acted the meals. We started dropping with them. Sog CITQOJ with red light special disability. We forgot how that new could made us feel. It just made a logo. I know my cousin called me in Michel to baby Rhonda. She and I had complete screen as in an actually the thing that we talked about the most of the songs a baby based didn't even play right. You know what I mean like. Didn't even touch the waiting to exhale soundtrack. I know I kept saying. He's holding to the end. Like Windy. GonNa drop bad heat. The waiting to exhale soundtrack. Didn't you do the soul food soundtrack to probably I don't I don't have the facts in front of me but I I sound about right member milestone. I care about you I'm Ben. I don't say way I felt when Teddy Riley Played Jay Z. Song I was like. What is this week? Daisy signing this. Will you know what they both are holding their heat till the end? Which is why. I think everybody was trying to hang in there and when we were going back for between one livestream to the because I was waiting on that brandy sitting up in my room know not gonNa cry but I love. Baby faces transition. He was like Berry had been able to tell me what you thought she would say. Okay transition I think I'm GONNA low key watch it again before it goes away because I did miss the beginning of it because my I was I was one of those people trying to watch it on my own and And rightfully doesn't he supposed to do social media and the video kept freezing so Shadow to our producer. Ashley Hobbs Peak Me. To tell me to go watch it on my laptop which was the best way which is why I believe there would have been a million people. But I don't think a million people were able to get on because I don't really and it got no real there. Were people asking me if I could call around and listen through the fall because they couldn't get into word that's all so like imagine those members whether big boy if play would have been a big. It would have been epic with an excellent. Do we now was the next while I see. They're trying to do believe Dr Dre versus Ditty on deck but then I see that there is another sort of battle happening called I wrote. That Song Ran. That's GONNA BE JD. Jemaine Decree and Dallas Austin. No you haven't you're Lanta your Atlanta connection. You may be down for that even the little John and Team got him already. I can do it again but it but it was so good. I'll of course what else is going on Actually I mean I'll be honest since we're talking about music. I'm really Giannis right now. I was able to interview skip. Marley Bob Marley's grandson and Sedillo Marley's Son Adela was the first child with between Rita and Bob Marley and I really like his song. Slowdown with her in while ages jumped on it. I'm really excited about having given the insecure soundtrack of try. But I hear that is fire song from England Jedidah on that I would listen to okay. Corey. I think it's time I can ask you this. Usually I feel bad because you're always book they're busy as you should be as a whole entertainment director. Bites Navjot a little more time. Can we get the Corey's pick the fee list on spotify? I wanted like subscribe to this and like regularly know what you're listening to so funny ass so as you know this is not applicable spotify but I do love Do Love spot if I love the curation. Santon in that whole team over there But I love their playlists. R&b In more likely. You know being edited nerd. I love how they do it. You Know A. R. e. At EPI is so cute so I developed are in babies because you know my life with Jillian and as much as I love my arm being hip hop right now at when I try to play it out loud in the house. You know the minute you know does a cat is talking about juicy or whatever you know. The song I'm living at the moment is just hard to find like the clean version so I had developed sound a little bit like develop but now I've discounted secure rating a list that we could play in a house trying to infuse some stuff that I can find clean and so I do have that not ready to be public yet. But I'm getting about three hours worth of music because Janos she loves the Taylor Swift so I get it. You know what I mean. And now she's really into billy islands so we try. I'm trying to infuse some rb into it. But it was interesting because my prep to talk with skip. Marley are sort of playing song. Calm down and he's listening to issues like unlike this. I'd like this. You know what I mean so I just realized I just have to play it loud for her and she will buy two. So I'm hearing the kids hooked up and the money again. What about me? I want to know what you're listening to even the DOJ cat you need like a c murder fantasy murder. I need to see murder lists. I'll try to work on it after I get this one. Done this just about five more songs for this. Start on the full-on please Stays with the song recommendation. And Anytime you tell me you're listening to something. It's a month later speeco in this last thing about the battle between Teddy Riley and baby face eyelid. Jit sent my cousin the song comfortable you know that song he wrote Little Way. No Oh my God we believe listen to it. It's often harder for two thousand eight thousand eight. Your musical tastes is top notch. So I'm GonNa need you to give it to the people in quarantine I'm waiting. I murder in France the playlets I will wait you tweeting to all of us so we can subscribe and listen to your weekly selections. Thank you okeydokey. You're welcome had no but you know if we've been asking a lot of our guests you guys just about like they're grown womanhood in this pandemic you know owning it and that was what Kelly Song was all about right. That's what coffees Alabama. And she. This really going in. And you'RE GONNA love this conversation because cuddly is like you know on her grown ass as usual but in full glory Right Corey. I know she really is an even. I love that. She was very vulnerable with us and showing her hesitation to even get out there in fact she found this video last August League winners. You wait for its users. He said hit the way for her. Own comfor- -bility in putting it out there. So I'm happy you said that too because I'm actually really loving seeing some of our favorite celebrities be more authentic than ever more like human down to earth and like you know less makeup less hair relax at home. Levin on their family and Kelly really like. I thought we were like in the living room at Kelly on Mike Friday. I really did feel to one thing I have. I don't know who tweeted it over with. I think it was a tweet and this going to your point about celebrities and how they look now and being more like us they were like if we're warranting just two weeks in Daddy's grays of that strong because you never see diddy with great ever while celebrities is two weeks without the care they get is a guy that took. Have you been looking carefully? Look if you look carefully at all shows in the fingernails. The eyebrows like minor connecting though my God Yuna Brown will is back. I get I had to run to target with my mask thing gloves on. Shout out to the lit bar because I did purchase some of their brow. Jail In Pencil so I can take care of these things. All the zoom meetings. We're about to be doing 'cause I needed some help at Matt's my shopping cart but yeah I just really love it. Just love seeing everybody keeping it real. You know from the grave to the scarves to the kids in the background. Olma Guy Cory usually about trending story about the news reporter who is trying to do like the I y video and her and her making like this where we just crossed the line just crowd the live American on her slipping he was probably waiting on his moments is step out quietly and everything. Oh my God but the Internet has really been keeping me entertained. I would like to end our opening segment with my favorite comment from the versus battle between baby faces heavy Riley. Somebody baby face looks like that old. Do use the C- walking down the street. He would ask you how your mom was doing knowing good and well just this way. I'd hate the editor so much a big. It's I like that old player on the street and he would ask you your Mama take me already. No wait my favorite was. I mean. There's so many favorites but ended and then we can really wrap up. And I know everybody's decided to Kelly but unique gifts that her name the woman who created because of you we can we can. She posted a picture of Andrzej new. Ls As doctor. Matti Mars Clock. Doc was looking at Teddy Riley baby face trying to get their shit together. I mean they did Busey. Use the photo in the idea of like letting far wouldn't have slapped living daylights out of both of them through the shooting and everything shoe is there where I literally laying across the bed in slid on the floor outside good nights. I'm done badges showing you the rain of Hilarious woolery that we all I mean. I don't even know how people make these means so fast I don't. There was a reenactment videos. Any lack within an hour go. Jeez and let me know. How many already head burgundy matching burgundy sweatshirt and sweatpants the recreation and sat out the Teddy Riley. Baby face skin for guests. I need though you actually sat out because you know we are real dark. Tom's in they made us forget for real and they remember the music that they aided in the memories and they gave us new memory and it was a moment for the culture. It really was a moment culture. Michelle Obama was there again right. Everybody was there. Oh my God everybody I loved it and we love this interview Kellyanne. So we're going to let go ahead and get into. We had a good time with our good girlfriend Kelly Rowland. Let's do it I salted. How're you guys wonderful? Okay Sir. You're already know please Korean. I started with the libations. Lassen SOME FAST. Or something you probably. Are you know that we have a video to promote this? Last full is falling salary juice now for the past aloe warranty three weeks. I know by million Dana. Nothing but why and no allison was good to see quarantined. Beautiful Bell You. We were just talking about your scanned back. Glow I wait first of all right. Let me go through the checklist of feelings. I felt watching a clip of the coffee video. I mean I felt neglected. Okay because I was like I don't WanNa think about somebody like this okay and then I was lying while not going trips like this okay here and then I was like. Why HAVEN'T I've taken care my skin like this? Okay and why have I eaten all the bagels? So my midriffs nice in talk like sailing off all the emotions but the Kelly the seriously beautiful beautiful beautiful. I me talk about email sexy vibes all the things. It's beautiful skin body positively as linen pop in like melon melon melon poppins in k. like though Quite honestly watching it. I think the first thing I said to your team was why is it? Only two two minutes and fourteen seconds. I kinda I wanted it to be a mobile like I was. I was just getting drawn in and then it was like okay out out no time to waste out to give it a little. You know this is the teens. Is the thieves one thank you? I really really appreciate a really really appreciate it or the. The song is two minutes now. My fault you know fully my fault but I just I felt like you know. Songs nowadays are shorter. You know what I mean. Area without quick people like taking music is like. Yeah Yeah here is done and I just by the way because I been in the industry for twenty some years makes you feel like a dinosaur in the wake of. Oh that's sure everybody's like no that's arpey and the I just want to celebrate the women in the video every shade every cough become a every curve every essence and what they gave me a what I my intention I set for. The video was to take the light in yourself and your sexuality in God getting in a way where you don't have to get any Approval from anybody else and I think that sometimes with women will we stand in our own sexuality without approval from any external source. I think that there comes a different respect. The different outlook a different feeling. And and usually we don't even realize we're doing but I think society's kind of made it that way especially with the black woman you know what I mean so I just wanted to come across like me? We are standing in all of our beauty in all of our coffee colored shades in all of our greatness and you GonNa take this index what I wanted and that's what I want everyone to feel for me so that was my intention and to be honest. I was hungry for two months. I can tell I. Give her the Info says is it was I am by the way is really on. I shot that video last August. Wow in Miami Aminu okay on some white space like this like far away from the beach and it was so beautiful middle. It was like a whole different place. I thought it was Jamaica or NATO or somewhere between bear. I wanted to do not fit this budget so this must keep every of Fort Lauderdale will. Miami gave me everything that I wanted in. The city was really kinds of me. And I'm really grateful and the ladies in the video were. They stayed there even when they were done. They stayed there. They supported me or four thunderstorms in between the time of the now people the very first shot where I have the coffee shop on. There's another shot. We didn't put in his literally Lightly lined a you did offer the I and my team hair makeup and styling everybody just. I don't know something just came together and I felt so great. In the end at the end One of the hairstyles real close friend of mine. Angela Meadow. She said Ou Gerke. Mama was here for this moment. Denial lost the just. How I know got goosebumps. My was her because it. Yeah the weather said that it was supposed to rain the rest of the afternoon. It was like Somehow Mama was beat at built. She was like she needs this on my just got chills all the when I tell you I lost my mom and I have this theory that when I'm doing the most magic it like pulls her to it like when my soul is smiling it just brings her to the moment is yes I feel you. You sound on like they. They have this thing where they want you to be absolutely certain that they are they. Are there in that. Made me feel even more bliss than I am sober. I love it and I love the message that you're talking about because you know we know we own it. Bell respect it. It's a win. Did you really come into that part of your womanhood and you realize like I am Kelly? I am sexy amazing. All comes from within and I own it. When did that happen for you? And your life motivation gave me a taste of it. That's when I was thirty in Ben after having tied an acting job before we talk so much like I lost my Mojo actor Ben like in this five years it just continues to Joe itself in his ninety men. Is there like with body or anything? It's like the how I feel about myself like I feel about my mind. I feel about however contribute to my relationships in my life how I You know mother who and I think motherhood is he some sexiest moments. I've ever had in my life. You know what I mean and even for my son. I showed my son the video when he did ask me. What would you have any pants on? And then I was done and he said you re like aw said in in. May because I don't know I had this issue with the word pretty I think pretty is just very like bear and it exists and I just think that for a long time I even allow myself to just be okay with in dinning underneath the surface to even allow people to see what else was there because I was uncertain. I was uncertain about all. I'm like well if I feel this way about this. Is that still? Make me as amazing beautiful. Is this for you know what I mean? Like the comparisons all these different things that contributed to me feeling like. I don't WANNA share. It just allowed me. Just sit in pretty in. I was like I'm not doing this record or if uniform beautiful is in but I don't want pretty in. I just wanted to have these. Different moments in. Coffee is when I can't wait prizes. I love that you allowed yourself to be vulnerable. And that's located out of it. Isn't it beautiful? We do that. Yes but it's it's. It's very hard because I think that at the time that you're thinking about being vulnerable we keep thinking about the parts of ourselves that we judge on south and we're life would ask. I don't WANNA share. That might not link will like that. But that's the part that people actually attract too. They're like oh no. I've been I've done in non sitting here feeling like on O-on so when we feel like we go through it together just makes us feel like one thing I took away from the video and especially like in the first few moments is when you're kind of saying I like my copy like my sex in the morning and it makes me go back to something. I would hear Charlie like married full with say at work like y'all really embrace this wrong woman sexuality you're right you're married and you can have this and I don't think that's talked about enough. I think people love to be like xxx. But here's something. That is just as sensuous. But I don't WANNA say tasteful. But it's edgy is well was that was that the did you feel comfortable doing that Does that part of the messaging you wanted to get across my friend. Nipple agreed the nipple. I didn't WanNa be like this. I noticed that like I had a moment where I thought I said how was like even the guard. You know what I mean what she yeah I just like or did she just stand in her woman. Who and I was just like. I'm not doing it so I had to be careful because I was like. Wow you still mary the lines line. But I'm still his and you know what I mean you can look but you won't touch you know what I mean. Yeah In my act so when it came to be like being around the crew my sauce was just cover. You know probably even as I'm standing there like in front of the Horse displayed for the next amazing what. It took me a long time to get the're in. I think society has been like no cover that like covered. That don't Yes yes. Yeah you know when you got over Venus the Milo now like she's like sitting there now her glory in Shale Mighty muggy all it is like what are we had. What are we have liked? It in our real. Yeah yeah that looks like us and yeah that's how I feel. We deserve it and I feel like we love except our bodies and then celebrate and embrace bound it opens up doors to so many other amazing places we can go with them with our partner in in spirit like it free. This and I love that you felt free like that. Okay superwoman do. I mean I'M NOT GONNA go out here novels my mind but in the initial ice or the messaging now coffee indicative of how the whole album is going to be or is that just a like. What's the vibe of the full protect? The whole album is very honest. Very is unexpected. Just think in about like this record that I had one love. I love the whole helpful. When this warm record that I wanNA come with next best just on some this modern disco trap still. I'm already airport. Yes units fired by Kuti New Ping like already there rhythm what I mean like. I remember like four years ago I remember. I told myself I said look. You need to make sure that you have temple on his own and it like came like a wave. 'cause I had all these mid Really great records but these temples came away like three or four. Which makes me so excited. Because I'm the one that's always has been and I was like wow will not be able to have it on my record any does it comes across in. I can feel it and it makes me excited in. This is just the beginning and What else are you excited for? Kelly you always have something new in dope in. I love that you are. It's always knew unexpected lookout valley up to so what else are you in the lab working on. I've written two movies to idea are two ideas from these. I'm not a writer like that yet. But I read into movies ideas I think I have a new song but this one is incredibly But I think is necessary on. I've spent a great amount of tower fun and realized that there was a reason why God had all of this happened totally that grateful because like usually like. I do play with my son. I love playing with my son. My Son This. You have nothing to do nothing nothing to do. So when I'm done with all my zoom calls conference in this in debt for the day time it's like hey I need you is up. We broke open this toy and we played with this one toy for two and a half hours two and a half hours and he just started to talk to me just about his friends and what we when he grows up in. Um How? He felt about the quarantine. It was just so much stuff and I was like. This is why play therapy is so important. And a guy muted thinking about how I want to contribute that to our community with and being able to express themselves winning them environments to express themselves and to be the most amazing sales. It's a threat So I keep thinking about how morale my head around a program like that. Or if there is a program that already exists which will be great How do I attach myself to that and Yet makes me excited. I'm writing a children's book What else I'm because I love whisky so much actually in the process of making always be. I'm on the day at I'm ready. Yes Sir yes but I'm one thing I'm super excited to show a job but it'll be closer to our town. I yes that that Congress I cannot so I would think wow. This is exciting. Not of you. I guess just like layers is layers but that's life. I guess that's lions in Mike. What can be going. Because I'm taking about what you said. You didn't shot the video in August. You head some songs you've been thinking about four years ago that you wanNA tempo like how have you been able to have patience this whole time? I mean to tell you always busy always out there then watching you buy right now. It's like clearly music is your heart it will aside from your family has but you know what I mean. But that's what really just so how you learn to be patient and wait for the right times and then because I just I think I would just WanNa put things out like the minute shot. I video there was me automatically. Put IT OUT INSTAGRAM. All the lights. Everyone on this foreign world. Is He right now? Though to be honest I was so critical now. Still like you know like oh. It was anything that was thinking about like. Is the world ready for that? You know what I mean it was. It was Questioning myself and I remember. I showed it to actually just showed. It's the line a yesterday. She was like I'm not even convinced this respect and Then I I showed it to my sisters You don't put this out right. Yeah now said well. I need to perfect time. What was the perfect time now? I I don't I don't know and she was like just go so It was a support but it was most Leslie Me Love You I love. Your tribe is so strong that they could push you. And that you can you know by creatively together and just. That's so what is I mean you know. Not Every woman has that you know what I mean. I think about that whole time and I wanna I WANNA the way in the ladies are in the video how we're tribe in the video going home as women especially in our community. We're not competing against each other. We're competing against us. Don't and I think I finally learned that just before I had lesson in alerted even more after I had my son because I just kept thinking I don't want him to compare himself in stands in who who he is on. I mean but I wish somebody told me that it was okay awesome strength. Why don't we think that it's okay to do so? We do something greatest like now go. You've got this right here. Let's go you know what I mean. Issue it shouldn't even be a thought I think because once again so many people told us well. If she's doing something then you can do it. Why not you know I I don't know why that's the thing but we have to break. That is so many things as women we have to break and I think the more we do that the more power we get I'm sure some man somewhere made up that damn rule just so there could be some sort of. I know that I'll keep them oppressive. I do that as as you got me thinking. Did you see the Clark Sisters Cash? So good remember when he went to the grammy's and came back and had to stand trial with the involvement of the bishops. And he was like. I'm Bishen doesn't look good on you. I so glad she stood up to them. But it got me thinking how many times men even people. It's just make a when they when they see you shine and blowing. You always have those one or two people quick to be like that doesn't look good on. You are unique to. I'm thinking about even when I grew up if you did something people would say. Don't show don't do this. Don't do that because you're gonNA make uncomfortable but it's like but it's doubting my life. Yeah don't you think that's all new. Sadly yeah my best friend in Houston. She told me the story about how her daughter Said Mommy. The enemy was trying to tell me that I wasn't doing something wasn't pretty. It wasn't great. It wasn't something and I stopped my best friend right there and I said first of all just the fact that she knows the difference when waitresses I to me. If there's something telling you that you cannot do something or some body telling you that you can't do something that's the person you have to walk away from any. I mean I always ask God for door to be opened is closed and I'm like on. Just go through that door. You know what I mean. But if it's people telling you that you can't do something you better walk the hell away from him quickly because they're going to always tell you something that you can do and by the way we're already fighting stuff in our head challenges in our head to actually make that external now you don't fit you. Don't pay your mom. Kelly and I always say if somebody is dimming your light. The mayor's isn't bright. There's just no way that you can be a light dimmer and truly be glowing inside is and you gotTa know the difference. I completely agree. I couldn't agree more. I have to ask you have so many things going on. You've got so many things coming. You have any products but we are warranty. How have you dealt with slowing down the ACLU? Because I is that where we look. Y'All in check out my now aren't they? They're so pretty interesting. You know my eyebrows. Wayne your these or outtake grove it but I think that the slowdown was necessary or us. All was definitely a change for me. 'cause I flew from Australia doing the voice home. I just knew I was like okay in two weeks ago to figure this out. You know I'm going to fly back Australian. Finish note like right now. I will be like starting to pack my things up to go back to Australia. I don't even know when I again. You know and My son has enjoyed it. Of course then laugh is truly enjoyed in when it comes to work. I just. I'm so happy that I still get a chance to do. Something you know is binding to be creative and can be able to have these fun moments with friends and family and zone calls and everything like it makes it feel like so much better but yeah I miss I miss outside. Let's move. I don't WanNA complain at all. is Israel. I hear. The songs is a rely here in have so much respect for doctors nurses in. I mean people fighting this virus in Who are on the frontlines? A place where I can't even imagine myself to be in. That takes a hell of a whole lot orig- and a will passion for the crap in the gift that you have The whole medical background. I I don't know how you would say that but I just I have a whole layer of respect in their new heroes. I love how they're like new heroes coming about. You know what I mean. Do celebrities as you would say. I mean people who should be celebrated in. I think that they should be celebrating. I love that and honestly we all are being with ourselves and really getting to know ourselves and I love saying how happy. It's making everybody with themselves. You get a chance to take care of ourselves. Honestly I think most of us are guilty of that right so how pouring into you the other day. I'm being completely honest. Was My first time editing. Like on Sunday. Pats meditated and I took my. Name's was dental floss that I needed to do my nails. This wasn't making me feel though I shouldn't. I got it from Jada. Pinkett Smith did that on her instagram closet. Word but yeah just been an nine home. I organized everything in this House. Same problem everything else What else that's really. I probably haven't done enough so care but like I feel like that kind of stuff makes me feel better when I think is in the hall absolutely I love World and everything is just taking. These crazy is so crazy coin. I realize the squirrels make a funny noise. That was you. I was talking to you about that right. Yes where else will yell at you now girl? They squawk at both avid unnoticed say week. And we realized we googling they are squawking at each other to warn each other about us at. I'm saying it because that just shows you. How do we are to score on? That's making that noise. And I was like new pair out with Titan. Oh just like in. Our front yard injured two But my husband does. This seem so great. He's like man I am. Jaba just comes at me. We're in the yard. He's like you're not just comes your head as he lay down just John Gibson is still. You are blessing but before we go we have been asking people since all of this is going on to really give us a good word because we know tomorrow you're going to break the Internet. Mcaulifee comes out and people you're GONNA make everybody rushed to go outside and we gotta remember people to wait. Wait and wait. Order invade ince's all the things off the coffee Yet on the D have a word or any motivation that you WANNA share that you've been using to kind of get through war make peace or is it may be something share with tightened. Kinda when things get a little. You know just a little hairy watch too much. Msnbc OR CNN any just like you said just take that like who who saw time at time myself when it comes to news though is it just seems like there's always some breaking story or whatever after that the second week on in quarantine or not even necessarily quarantined like just after the second week will all it is starting to come to the surface in such a major way. I remember acid I'm GONNA time myself. Give myself in our two hour and a half because you can't sit there for like three. Oh Yeah just watch the news so I said I give myself an hour an hour and a half because usually after that sometimes loops but you will sit there sector Sky Mike so I do that then I cut it off then. I remind myself of how grateful no matter what we are. We have our health have to be patient in the House with each other. Because you know when you just you in the house and you don't get a chance to like really get out like how usually would like in a moment that somebody's getting on your nerves. You have to say three great things about them. Because that's real. You know what I mean. I just like I got if he'd breeze like wartime been just like if you ever it. Is You know what I mean. So do that and I do need myself like the I. Week starting to put Earlier even longtime UNITA yes. Last night we started watching Ozark. I suggested there in like for like we're in a movie theater to get more alliance. I love that I'm GonNa do the three things. Honey I'm gonNA tell you three by level back to you because you know what we said. Hi Lee you are alight. You are amazing relation. Happy that I got a chance to share this with your Couldn't imagine anywhere else to debut. This and I'm so grateful sober around so fire fire. Fire break that Internet Kamarul's this will be watching you on. I said we're going to try and explain Kelly. Thank you. We appreciate you Gun have up next more. Yes girl to come corey sister. Good Morning Good Morning Charlie pin money. You don't WanNa my favorite things to do on. Yes girl is what could be taught to dope women who are doing. Even doper things. Would I love that too? I love that too especially Were doing things right now in this really unpredictable time that we're in accidentally and today on the show we have Simone Jordan. Who is the head of community commerce at Sundial brands? Hey Simone Good morning good morning how are you ladies? Which involved how are you? I'm doing good. The mountains is here to talk about Shea. Moisture is one million dollar community commerce side. I'm already intrigued. I'm excited to share this with you. Guys it's been amazing to launch this. So I'm so glad to have you guys supporting and Really learning more about today's sharing it with your audience does a little bit about what you do is head of community commerce at sundown brands. You absolutely so again. My name is Simone Jordan and I hit community commerce at a Sundial brands which is the makers of shade moisture and with community commerce. It's very similar to corporate social responsibility. So that may be a term but more on people are familiar with. It's really ensuring to as a brand. We have social impact and so I had but with is very different about community. Commerce is that it's about investing It's not about donating. We don't think of it. Is You know philanthropy. We really think of it as investments so ensuring that we are supporting our community in a way that they can support the people in bear community. So we have specifically focused on entrepreneurs. I'm through our investments in not only entrepreneurs women of color entrepreneurs so for Shea moisture where you really see this model come to life Community Commerce model comes to lie. We know that you know. The brand was built from our founder rich Lou. Dennis And he wanted to make sure that the brand itself always taking care of women of colors needs a women with textured hair so it began in net space. Where was really? How can we ensure that we're giving products that make women competent and then as it's evolved and we really looked at our social impact motto? You wanted to know beyond here beyond beauty. What else to women of color need and we started seeing that. It really was around. Investments Infamous ENTREPRENEURS AS BUSINESS WOMEN. And so this is word of model really came to life so we know with women of Color Entrepreneurs. They're not getting venture capital funding. I'm is very low rates so for us we were like. What can we do about this? And so we created this community commerce model which gives proceeds from every Shane moisture purchase back to the communities that it serves so we have we started with it being a model that was ten percent with specific skews and it has grown and evolved during nineteen that we are now looking at it across all of our products in so this model it goes to take the proceeds from shameless purchases and put it into programs and As recently announced is gone into this relief fund where we're really figuring out how we can continue to support women of color and small minority businesses through the gun. It's so amazing to see this because right now when I think about my feet and I know you see the same thing you too as well. So it's just a lot of black female entrepreneurs struggling this was so unexpected and it's really offended their lives and they need help it has and what's what's really critical to know here is that this was before Kobe. Nineteen rate they were a group of entrepreneurs that have always needed resources and is just become even more obvious And it's not just for women of Color Small minority businesses. We're seeing the headlines we are. You know they're still being locked out a the funds that are supposed to serve them from the you know the different rescue plans that are put out billions of dollars in. They're still not seeing it. So yes those headlines. They meant a lot to us to thebig. They're still struggling. They're going to in-depth struggling more on. Because there's closures manufacturers bay have been shut down so this has been really important us to figure out how to we super serve. Dorna Sam Somali We talk about that like you. Basically looking at the long term impacts of what this is going to have on entrepreneurs. Can you tell us if there's a story that has stood out to you that kind of really paints a bigger picture of what this needs? You know what has been pretty awesome. Is that open a has eaten? I've been looking at the applications. They came in. So we kicked off the fun by opening A hundred thousand dollar award a grant and A Relief Fund with E. Black which has been a partner for us and we also did an application for unsung businesses. Because we really won the pot light. Those businesses have been stepping up and this is without ending. This is just because this is what they do have always done and so we really wanted to highlight them in how we kicked off in so as I was going through the applications it was amazing. Bit there was not one story to stuck out but we have had thousands apply so I think that just demonstrates the need right now The thousands of apply for this one million dollar grant and they all were doing something really important. It wasn't necessarily providing direct relief or being on the front lines of this. It was just knowing that their businesses potentially could shut down so it really resonated thought about all of these places that were landmarks and communities like their restaurants. There's facilities there is different places that people you know when I think how it we're call in and out sat back out gets open. We mean go see. These businesses exist like out a went out. This begin finally. I'm to attempt to go to the grocery store and as I was walking down the street and you know most businesses are closed. I was like what if these businesses were closed indefinitely forever and debt impact me to know that like some of the places that I need and probably most of us need which are here some nail salons if some of these places. They're really you know I identified myself and my community in these small businesses widow. Air closed indefinitely like that. That's a scary feeling to know especially when they are the ones who uphold our culture in so I think of all the applications again you have some businesses the not only are they not operating right now but they also have had family members that have been struck by Kobe. And that's tough. That's tough to read to know that they're not just going through one struggle of losing their business but they all sort of dealing with medical bills. They're dealing with family members who you know. African Americans have been disproportionately affected by the virus and so to read that to know that you're looking at two to struggles that they're going through I. It's IT'S BEEN PRETTY. You know emotional. Gopher does absolutely simone when you talk about like that. Walk down the street where things are closer than you think like. What if I was thinking about that too? And it's so crazy Irian scary. Because there were so many entrepreneurs who are thriving and really getting on their feet and working so hard and I also wondered if this will now deter and scare people who were about to become entrepreneurs you know and take that leap that you'll be like what if you know. Another pandemic happens are another crisis. So what advice? Would you give to even potential entrepreneurs who are listening right now but maybe now more than ever afraid to take that? Take that leap into starting their own business. You know what I found interesting our. Ceo Carissa van. She said it best and they asked her about like what about small businesses. That are thinking about starting up. And what advice for she give them and she said she set. Necessity is the mother of invention and at that really resonated. Because I think most of the time you would you WANNA run scared? You would see how small businesses doing now and the struggles that are going through and you would say. Is this really for me? And I think what has been really important to notice is that the ingenuity is coming out of the small businesses that exists. So I think care was right where we've always created. Are you know as a community? We create businesses based on necessity in. So I think this is the time where you can. You know whether it's flipping your business model and thinking about ways that relevant To turn your you know services to something like creating anti-bacterial Hand Gel or whether it's creed and facemask like we've seen a Lotta ingenuity come out of this and then I think if you're also in this time and thinking about a business I think unders this. This is kind of like the best lesson that you could ever get right because I think you create businesses without really understanding you think about it. You're like Oh okay. Could this happen in world? Well it's happening right. What if you had no money would if you had to close down for months and I think this is allowing you to plan for it in nets would strong businesses are able to forecast for things like this in your living in a time so I think understanding that you know this is not unique for a lot of small businesses? This is definitely not unique for women of color entrepreneurs they felt those closeouts before and they have you know ran out of funding in so it really shows the strength of them that you must have you know You must be resilient and this is historically we've shown like from you know Black Wall Street from other a crisis that have hit small minority businesses. That there is a way. Sue ACTUALLY RECOVER FROM THIS. And even if you don't feel like there's big funding for it it's about shopping on making sure that communities know that if you want to keep these small businesses in operation than we can do something about it and that has been really you know we've taken on as Shea moisture we know that you know it's one million dollars but there's loan You know loans out here for three hundred fifty billion on permanent government and yet we're giving one million dollars seems to be more impactful for these businesses that have been locked out so I think just know that there are businesses there are people their communities If you're starting a business we're here. We're always going to be here And solid say. Don't let discourage you from creating new businesses but really pay attention to those that are maneuvering right now and learn from them. This is the greatest less than as you could get and you probably would have never anticipated Somalian uncle. I'm thinking about that. Imagery used set in that. You know you're walking down the street. These businesses closed businesses that? We've all Businesses that we have loved supporting because they've been essential to us but now that they're closed we have to deal with are sheltering in place as the government deems longest however long the government our local governments say. But what can we do to help those businesses? I mean what are some ways that individuals can help small businesses during an activist crisis? I think you've seen a movement online with their. You know a lot of small businesses are saying by gift cards. I think that's a great way to start the show support for them. There's others that are you know. They're demonstrating their although they don't really have the resources to stay open They're are still serving their community. So if there's a restaurant who is delivering meals by you. Supporting that restaurant in its efforts to support the community. You're still making impact. You're still allowing them to exist So definitely pay attention to those that are stepping up their communities creating meals donating items and bigger out how you can put money towards it. So go to their websites. See what they're doing and definitely donate on or support their efforts and then I would say one. Big Call out is pay attention. Show purpose So again which SHADE MOISTURE IS MODEL? Every purchase is going towards community commerce efforts. In now we're able to put out a one million dollar five so when you shop with companies you know. We had were Abiko certify company and they have this thing where it says your dog you can use your dollars to boat rate and I think rarely in store that when you are purchasing from bigger companies that they do have a model of supporting things that are important to you and that you're looking at your dollars as investments back into these communities back into these businesses. That are really supporting you so I would say between those three things I think is a good start for helping them recover an when outside is back open. Make sure you're going and you know intentionally using your dollars to support those did not get you know a lot of relief from the different opportunities that are out there so use your dollars to really support those in need the help small. We seriously can't thank you enough and shame moisture knocked because we all want to help. We want to support the entrepreneurs in our community. We want to support black women entrepreneurs and this will help them and help us learn to do that. We appreciate you. So can you please tell us where entrepreneurs in those who want to support can get more information about the find absolutely You can go to Shea Moisture Fun Dot Com and learn more about the opportunities that are available through the fund Again there will be awards. They'll be different relief efforts there in addition to that. I encourage women of color entrepreneurs go to the alab. I'm there we will have resources. We will have chats. We will also have funding that is available to women of color specifically to support a recovery. In so yes go to SHEA MOISTURE FUND DOT COM to learn more into continue the updates. Thank you so much cory I truly appreciate you coming on the show to share this valuable information taking the time and we are all in this together. So thank you and thank you guys. Thank you be sure to listen. And subscribe to other great episodes of care girl such as our conversations with Raphael City. Kelly Rollin Regina King and fantasia. You can check out our podcast on apple podcasts. Spotify far heart radio and Google play. And while you're there be sure to rein everyone view. It seems to me by A.

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The Hidden History of Flint

Radio Free Flint

35:36 min | 5 months ago

The Hidden History of Flint

"Okay this is Bush and you're listening to Radio. Free a good show all the great and for those of you that are into the history of Flint and the and the memory speak of places. Be Your this show. I have Author Gary also forever called for the Journal and Gary a throw numerous books about the city and let's talk about his work which is back native and you're welcome to radio replant broadcast. Thank you take a few minutes. You broke down. Looks up some of which are still wanted which is back the couple of books that you wrote recently in a little bit about them. Jura the most recent book that came out in the play. Seventeen called didn't which like my first book which came on playing in Flint Michigan Stories from the vehicle city feature articles. I've written for various publications. Osnos young common sense all the people that the mets acts population way back when the which was first book and ultimately obligation go along around on side was Where most of the material in the history of length one night in Israel and aspect as doors to theaters that were close. Reach other along on over on the. East I and Harrison them east on east I Harrison. That was lind's first large theater which was dumped. I call them using all mostly known as Stones Opera House and finally a majestic theater job was anyplace. Make them for the flaming L. Bill and Just KITTY CORNER ON. East First Street was called Jew Theater. And finally that's now side of what used to be. Genesee powers But the most significant at the Marx Brothers Got Comedy Group You Know Round Joe. Jayco Zeppelin Gumbo. Performed at the those theatres was at the what was then called majestic theater of the gallstones when Jill building was built on it. Was that time all five marks of this appeared onstage resolve to be the only time all that was groucho. Aren't article Jayco at whole and Gumbel was youngest brothers and joined the group after Donald Left and then the Lady of the building. They're the Old Lady of Harrison a general and we think of the dissolved for something theater. Somebody that's now The Michigan State University School. That's interesting now your book here Doc. The the I think would be fair to say. You've just documented devolution. In history. There's problems obviously. There's history things were happening right. Both of the ball blends glory days. We call up a review about Central Michigan University of Europe from Princeton. Where he talked about. I've been call. Lind's blurry dating San how some of the chapters started with remembering like the the title of my first book how local entrepreneurs of a varying levels of expertise summer successful summit not one of more successful or unsuccessful. Lot invaders was David Buick. Who was Beta billion engines but was not good businessman. Although his name's Dollah is down all mobile he wound up Teaching Trade School and not able to afford a telephone at that time. What you know buildings have went down. Job would call project for man who these great leaders were downtown from to make. Jerrell but building thoughts down period of time in the Flint area to build expressway that the sitting relying on so much lifeblood NASCAR call one thus normal school which was Roselle school which is located on thestreet. North of Stuart stuff. That was an avid the. I four seventy five expressway and the flood schools at the history of facials every Asian mostly because of Housing Patterns because restricted covenant up when Roosevelt School had be closed because the seventy five up. A new school was constructed. Liam School Also students from scores. I E caused junior high school was Ursa seem so Lewis. Goal the be an annex of all junior high school a Williams was built next rarely part on Minnesota Avenue at Utah and became a racially as we all all the. Unfortunately you spoke on the being close to now bidding to go on and near DOT COM area businesses. But they were married door. Homes have been torn down to make way for a or seventy five. Exactly it's personally the alive. Fine homes that were built on each Kersley street back. When the length was or of a carriage billed as hosted ill up the colder and some mobile up nine buildings around the being lost by the wayside one Nobel next does dance is Ueli house which is right next to the I seventy five service drive. And that's our museum or as as you know once a fire in recent years but it was to be built in redecorated now looks better than ever still has On looking pouring now fall practice shoot. It creates problems when expressly sample is create a lot of jobs maintain commodity east South Heart. Great provide opportunity for cargo rate. Come up in subway also appeared in downtown. 'cause with folks we're those Expressway Wendy cut off. Neighborhoods the downtown news amid athlete. Killed them out driving a central city. You have to have people and people nearby hopefully gives you the core and four about thirty four years along with the struggled buying a pollution problem. Yes I can think of. One example expressways went through For seventy five is six nine and a good chunk of the fall heart neighborhood. Which does story expose located air and there is one jazz club s still omen that neighborhood. The neighborhood still there but one aspect of that name through late which was once a driving expert. Fiction for seventy five. Cut that off as McKinley. Arca long signed lake is still around. The last week it was once a thriving amusement park dykes of you know the pressure. Lakeside aren't that was taken over by Cindy and became part of McKinley. Depart Rats in there anything about the history that naval there was the naval station. There wife serve stace. Yeah I think that's now community center. A jazz barely used when I looked over Arkansas. Act like it was empty there. We're taking a break for our sponsor anchor DOT FM. Let Me Tell You. A bit about anchor They have a creation tools. Set are free like you can Create your own podcast. Using an Epithet. Podcast using your phone. Or your computer. They'll distribute through podcast for you on spotify apple on or many other Podcast hope hosts. And you may even make money off your podcast with no minimum listenership. It's everything you need to make podcast in one place. Download inker for free by getting their APP at Anchor Dot. Fm to get started. And we're using it and hopefully you will too thank you very much and will resume our our program. I don't know if they're using that. Now if you go back into high looking at some of the some of these Areas strength by one night looking at your work. Where the churches that have. Been Free Repurpose repurpose. Initially make them. Churches tainted nothing all for the churches Managers as nor fronts or office space but as they got larger they began to have their own elite suspected and I can play they were. Oem beautiful up as the demographics change. The the churches either consolidated with other churches or suburbs. Just those all. The other one ALA engine was leave. This church up I was looking on North Zyganov Amilton and is now and deteriorate. Now when I can't remember this yearbook were at one time. This May Fifteen Matha church now the water to S I. I recall that most Los Churches did get sold in are now another the nomination. I do recall off for example stirred John and you'll design us all round and all Green Question Road. Estela her as you mentioned most of them either consolidated or closed so as you will around. The committee used the Churches. That have been have been ray and we see buildings that were built to try revitalized plants. Also the wrecking ball. More or current. Luma talked a little bit about when they'll place was up. One of the Royal Infirmary no project. That's the barn of north of downtown North on Fifth Avenue between North Saginaw and the river. They took long rundown of both residential commercial buildings of cleared. Most of them holidays some for oil school which was a be purposed in and so they had the river. Village was essential also apartment building and then there was also a commercial officer at Colwyn place which consisted of orbit only which had several places to eat some officers aid a bookstore and the shops and it was so full of promise on a a mayor. Don Williamson fancy blew off the building later on but in the end. They sold those buildings. You love a church back. Well didn't turn out that way end in one. I want at the largest of the place buildings building a it was spirit control damage from roughly and so excited tear down to make to make way for a family dollar store as well as sufficient. Parking for y'all's borough which was read by the demolition of a which based First Avenue North Avenue. I should say the your your book talk about the the talk about the just appearing. Play the the sorry there at some of those also into talk about school buildings and torn down We have really talked much about within the city of factoring laugh with the operation the engine plant and the and the the truck plant though Ron brands like road which was expanded in recent years to include a Dr Paintshop and is the the major GM developments. Dole they're also have over on Occurs Stevenson Also have a tool and die. Plant is still around. Which is what's left the Germany the whole and then what was left of. Ac is one old easy background able and a paper company Base and then the Atma just built a new facility in Burton replaced sold the also. Now Gary You were. We were talking a little bit about buildings. Work quite out the standard one of the reasons. Why building at the time like your for construction. That's par talk a little bit. About what building by been I mentioned three high rises downtown area that were built in nineteen sixty s even last a half century or like. Make one comparison with the Tell which was closed in the seventy s abandoned for decades but because the the bones were still less sound it was needed and into arguments on the other hand across Detroit Street now. Mlk was devoid U. N. Which was built in nineteen sixty also in by the war again was all the end with times bond the being a home for it for the agent and just housing college while but abandoned was tier rating analyze wound up the point now and then there was the old. Ywca on Stephen Street which wound up being too big for the YWCA as use. So they they moved into a much smaller facility the peak they'll be on the being on down be placed by a US to housing. All's fantasy example of course was Jesse Towers with was when all that the after the bank moved out it. Round up having more vacancies and the owner of the building. I guess an object in further and so on the bean loaded. Stand up the required for Valium and the the property owners flint. Hey up or a a legal judgment rich Paul. Though was important the guy at it looked better than it didn't years just the viceroy pile of rubble which commodity year for declare that building that shaped by the time came down. How many stories recall eighteenth store and some of the building laugh fifty years but we have to laugh along time? Will we look at courthouses intersection? Course St yes I guess was the third courthouse built on the site the other courthouses but he was right by Meyer. And when the county jail the McAfee placed the old jail was eventually imploded and the courthouse is granted Do takeover that site one of with was movie theaters particularly you. That can you give up the history of the Strip plans? I because e have an interesting history. The little history of the Sun Plaza was the I can live. Trump sent the had like the first round of more on foucault which Ababa's those standing at the corner of all hand. Here's Renton Rozonda. Ossa was built in the mid nineteen fifty s by the top and company which later on was a leading developer shopping centers. And it's and it's anchors a federal department store and the fair up as all civil small shops One tenant is still there was originally density. Bank I was which uh branch over there and later on the award a built in addition that plaza which later on was a Amdi supermarket Martin later on save a lot of our as a new shopping centers were built. You'll shopping centers wind up losing their tenants of now. The southland laws. It is mostly empty. Fortune the largest mall and by I'll that our from Detroit and then those twin projects that he didn't I told by the first all as it was anchored by federal departments door which is in that More the of the L. Shape Sarah's on as well as a coke market with all Mr boots over what we will get the history of Lisa Zomba. Soko had quite a few merchants who who will expanded their operation if not relocated them down. Yes I recall that the fair stored. What's basically lucky to downtown? What is now a all? The Legal Services of Michigan Bowling after the fair moved out Along the be an office building which was called the after the opening of the Southam store store it service not lessor awhile before they hosted. Twenty-three drive there that I don't drive in the area of the obviously a lot of people from the area. Yes the IT was developed by Lou. Warrenton and partner is on point in junior took over in nineteen. He ran the driving for many decades until until he died. He family was thinking of closing after year but then they leased into a an operator which later bought it and made some changes Dr taking out the speakers and Evian third screen them and the drive in theater all now closed because of the St at home order which hopefully they'll be able to open up in summer to dive. It would be safer supposed to indoor the covid nineteen pandemic his last. That's operation is also environment theater. Apr Of Bull Miracle Twin Drive in Iran or speed. Skating still there. The other structures bound Dole the attraction board upfront all boarded up and lot of vegetation growing in the driving Healdsburg there were also other guy it is a they were torn down the nineteen sixties because bill estate land is it become so so expensive it was cheaper to all drive into something else. Grace Apple the first driving. Dino's and play was adorned drive in theater at the corner of South Eilly Erstwhile Don t three and the wall was built on that site. The developers off call. William all ex also bill other drive in theaters examined the West. I drive in theater on a road and the northland drive on way. Green Mess. Emily Maw voice rose when he tore down the Detroit drive drive in autosound and Maple Avenue and fact the be prefabricate. Here speak houses. Driving became the I can Spain for the drive in theater as being replacement the power for the burn down. Us Twenty to drive in theater tower. And I think the The little drive and tower was about was a much. It was a very wide screen out the sixty one. Twenty and the A to drive and powers derive from the towers of forty feet and I was built up utilizing the US shipping containers as the support for the screen. Out there for a while. It's going to be there for a long time. Their Mission Act. Another normal drive in theater is an old water which is still a thriving drive-in beans and run still by the same family. The oldest drive. I recall still around the highway. Driving the in between send us your hearing. We need to wind up. I'd like to give you an opportunity writing the book. A Lot. Lost is the working title and your books maleable by the way purchase Love the arms. Noble Store Genesee Valley has been offering both Bosa. You can also get an online sources putting the nobles into Website Amazon as all other places showing people despite their sport to be backwards remember Michigan See. That's my first question off in two thousand ten and the second book which came out in two thousand seventeen as in history of flint tail hours but I wanNA give you a chance to leave melted. Everything's being torn down. I'm usually you're an expert development in this region for what is the future crisis giving a lot of attention has also brought some needed capital new plant actually downtown right now the all. Gnc BANK BUILDING OVER AT SAG. Non Lee is keen to hotel with room for the older brothers building. Became an heiress. We love you. Jason Williams was be stored and and also of course most ball. The apple store is the last remaining movie policy flint has and I can tell you stories. Done amphitheater three years. I'm glad that This classic Atmospheric Theatre that the John Gibson design as as beautifully stored and. The show's over there and do anything else. Inflict Huger what would you expect like to see? more people especially up. Housing prices are backed up next month. The NUP SODA OF ON FROM H. Gt Some family in Grand Blanc on the move back to the city of Flint and knowing the house his the choice of seen some Houses Clinton and they'll choose which one you and the Avi looking for seeing that. Oh so when it comes on each DVD. All the all the buildings neighborhood. Pitch you study. What do you think was the most interesting to you? Now unfortunately eras irrigation where African Americans were only able to live in some areas of the fall. Apart was out the downtown was a thriving the place to go out town of had some his vibrant churches at Michigan hitter. Not Long Gone. West located there for the movies remaining businesses one example furniture and appliances on. Unfortunately they had to move away. The I seventy five expressway and while the road and then the that's injust physician you'll industry input from shadow of the factory with all the pollution evacuate African American families who they had the money they were preferred. The lives of wall art in Saint. John's St Neighborhood. Volt appreciate your time question about. The Capitol Theatre appeared on history of the people that he was not from other generation that perform eventually the Campbell spill it open in Nineteen. Twenty eight was right after honky movies in being. So it's live as Vago Theater was Unfortunately Short So it was a movie theater mostly after after it On the bean just war movie theater. Imagine one theater up. Blackstone restaurant is now or state theatre used to be which was was a seven story building but After nineteen two was mostly gotten up and down to one single story with a high ceiling. These playoff the state theaters because that was when a very first talking movie the dancing during Jolson had a split near Premiere at the State Theatre back to my in history of off. I do show poster or the showing of the JAZZ SINGER. This have to do so. I don't the backwards. This is the ask for Jazzy or steep theater. And here's the phone backed fact over here. That was eight theater and next to it was a strand theater next to that was democratisation building of interesting held with my hometown. And all that those who are listening a will join these stories in case can learn more from your own kitchen for getting your book Losses Flint. And I hope to be able to meet up with you again and talk some more. Thank you very much giants here and thank you. Africa Day

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Help I Like It Thick Cut

Help I Sexted My Boss

37:46 min | 3 months ago

Help I Like It Thick Cut

"Oh Ben you've had a haircut. Looking, very suave. I've had a hack twenty. You having yours? Hey you. He cheeky I've had a curb. You've had your haircuts low looks not from from last week. Looking Fade, they'd give me a fresh fade. Do. They charge you for this. Yeah, under the bloody prices up as well. How long were you in the chair? An Hour. An Hour. Are you joking Easter? Even I wasn't in the chance for an hour. Look the fate and look at my beard. Shop I've said this before again. I'm a very average looking man. But when I come out at best. Anthony from Kierra. I'm a very average looking man at best, but when you come out, the addresses feel like absolute wealthy feel like a tattoo. I came out of the hairdressers, my turn to princess and went welding. Welcome, to help I sex that my boss, the podcast where we help you navigate the challenges of Modern Day life aiming to outs twenty percents, questions and find solutions to everyday dilemmas. Like what do you keep leaving your skylight open, don't. John Again Yeah I did it again yesterday. Macho is Piss wet through again. That's three times in the past. I'm the is someone said to me as well. What are you get? One of those skylines skylights skylights that close to US would it rains? You Think Monet. God. I used to have one of those in Manchester in the Manchester plan the one the sky like closed join it rained. Every day that in Manchester. Pertinently shops, and is it okay to wear a hotel a fancy restaurant? And of course? What should you dave? Sex did you. Bus bought. We are not your usual agony. Aunts Williamson, UK's leading etiquette expert who slightly? Losing these pontiacs and Now, we're not Jordan north. I'm more Oscar de la, Renta, whereas your Oscar larent-. Hype now Ben Ben Glass. Him didn't get those. Go to. The top designer. And OSCEOLA rented. Well means basically you can't afford. Oscar Renter and thanks to Meghan Markle for sending that one. We'll. We'll get onto bed next. We'll do it tells I first of all. Into I would like to the staff of the Berkeley Square London restaurant sexy. Who last week too much cafaro! Throughout, Jess Glynne who I believe is a singer. From the restaurant because she turned up in skinny jeans, very van trainers and a Hoodie. And with a hold up as well to make matters worse and just clean. Doppler settled Prima Donnas soul kicked off and said that they shouldn't have done that and actually I'm all for it because they clearly state literacy triscuit on their website. It's not their fault that just claim can't read and think she's above the rules, so Rachel glasses Geneva to the sexy fish staff sexy fish stuff I dunno to just Glenn as well. Jess Jess I, mean you actually. I'm Oyo, Mohair gone. I'm more sexy fish. You're more fish. You told you drinks before we start recording advisory getting to join. Your. Day your merely like strict on things like this. You totally can't see Jefflin's coming from even though these. We are a bit more casual and. Restaurants and diamonds, a bit more relaxed isn't. The sexiest dress code is hardly ballgowns and TR's. It's no sports where an ripped jeans and she turned up in a Hoodie. which you could argue probably is spoil swear. Ripped jeans, so it's not asking much as it remember if you WANNA. Then, you can tweet us at sex in my Bashi can study. It tells trepidation to help up sexy. My Bus Komo you can write to. William Hudson who promises a hundred reply on his own letterhead paper. Just for that is on the website sex in my buster come. Show problems that make a great episode so do ever think if you've got a good problem thing. Oh, that'd be a good full. All William a fully answer for that. Get into at the time that this episode is going, and we will either be an award winning. podcast at the British podcast awards all we will be live it. We don't know how it's going to go. Because obviously, we all recording this before the zoom ceremony. And you have very very sweetly. You've said the orange come over to mine, and we'll sit socially distanced on the on the Sofa. We all nominated for the best entertainment category. We're up against George Ezra and other people, and we shall see on Saturday. Who wins the first that move against Joe? Are we cut? Say That's legal. Reasons not joke I. Mean it never happened? It was a joke book us and we want. Is Georgia sooner because we made a joke that William was up against him, have you? You both of us are. These podcast is really go by the way you know like it. I J didn't really listen to other people's. Yeah I listened to the PODCAST. I listen Celo to podcasts, and then sometimes I listen to us. I'm just. got. So if we have won the PODCASTS. Thank you everybody. Thank you, Komo see with. Big Up you. John Gibson, reaction yes. Gay COBB. We've one we so humbled. Yeah, means so much everyone know now you sound like you're not bothered about okay and for the edits P-. Ban Put this in if we if we win. We haven't won because of you Jordan. You'd be noisy, loud, arrogant complacent, and that is why we have not one but bloody media types of never done a proper days work in the life thing that can judge me and my podcast. They can also pay strikes off I. Don't do it for them. I do it for the real people. The people outside the London bubble that don't listen to podcasts, the people that at a proper people, not these bloodied people age innocent table matters I love. Piss off your table. Table manners by the way but. It's not about table manners I. Did start listening to that. They even mention of things you know where to put the Napkin the great the moment, and also if what happens if I wanted to do a podcast from table manners, and how calm because you've got an erroneous podcast. Table manners I thought nothing to do with. It's great and the moment table manners. She's just she's just an absolute love. Anyway. We're going to do with all. Do it with my mother. I'LL! Come top podcast. It's called pissed test. Well. Yes mother, force away talking about so day well. We've got the alcoholics anonymous on the line. Ashfaq off, I knew this has been going up anyway. Please podcast review mom. Yeah. We've got a table to speak for me. Go to Bristol. The tall national until next year. John Welcome back. Way was looking fultz coming. We know you're lactose. Tranquilizers. Just say drink drink drink drink. We will drink drink. And then we'll try anyway. In other exciting news away from potential wins on the pressure podcast awards. I have a new pillow. Geno. Gene Davis if that's what we're talking about before the questions today, this is our final episode. The series I mean it'd been scraping the barrel for the past few weeks now. This is this is all you've bring into the table. Than, what was wrong? What's so exciting about New Pella? Because I was. I mean I like new pillow. It's exciting. I've been sleeping really really well because my pillows were about three years old so I thought I needed to change it I now a badge on pure natural Hungarian goose stem. Firm, because my other pillow was medium firm. Upgraded to firm. And it has made all the difference. Right Hungarian Goulash down. Yes third up before. Down is no. Is Anything to do with a Hungarian manage well endowed. No Down is the underside of a ducks, or whatever animal they getting it from goose innocent, since stomach, whereas the feathers go on top, whereas underneath the feathers on the bottom of a goose down. That's like fluffier. They're not fully grown feathers, I believe so the actually use feathers, and you actually goose Phallus. If you get a natural pillow or you might have, you have synthetic. From God's. You'll have synthetic I take these pills suitable for vegans and vegetarians. Will No, one's died. I didn't think they kill the animal. Just pluck it. Yeah, but I'm much just walking down road. Sooner Someone Grouchy Back Neck pluck share, and unless you're on your way, you'd be a bit pissed off to say that you wanted to play and got what you do. Nia Sorry. Pluck thank God for that. And who in the right mind to use them for? Genoa. Favors America Great Pilla. I. Think it was probably the chew is off the top of my aunt. We've managed to manage to get through you say you. I want I want to know Jordan with you when you put your head on the pillow at night. Really squidgy pillows or Firma pillows like your heart, always two. Hundred percent, so you'd quite not my pillow. At hard pillow it's firm. Yeah, if we were of course interrelationship, Jordan. We lying in bed on our own separate pillows, mind beautifully firm and expensive. Yours wafer-thin cheapen worn out because you've refuse to buy another one. What sort of thing that we would say to each other? What was your pillow talk like? Oh yeah and. Okay, she's saying. I think there's has a TV format in this I think they should film couples in bed. I go Boggs. He has called. No, he's not saying this just pillow talk just. Did you. Take anything at the freeze for dinner last night. Let's. Let's pretend I'm laying down. Yeah, you wonder as you look at the better you on the left or the Ryan's. Among the right I'm on the right. Okay good. I'm on the left. Yeah We've shed bets before. We always do that I. don't way, yes, point. When we've been on tour and stuff, keep costs down. Okay, so I'm laying out. Hey. Finish Reading Jerry autobiography for the fourth time. Nearly. That meal was meal was nice today as pleasurable. My tense treat you. Tell you about Bennett work. No, Oh, few sake skin, light, tracing paper honest to God! You give us just not your pillow. He give him a slight bit of criticism. And then if he's are my God a text, him today dinner on his day off he. Bit, me bloody, add after even reply replies you just did you just not read the message and respond to pronounce? It was tied with. This is my day off so. How's your and Dunaway was crack? Should we? Turn the lights off. I was thinking that, but you know Set You. Meal was nice today, and I washed up afterwards. Yes, and. What you're going to hand, they metal. Latifah those. I. Didn't we on the toilets this week Ho Pin. Can We? Watch another keeping up appearances. Let's do it. The Safeway Shawn h this week. was. I think I've started on the remarks. Was Weird. Let's never get married. Long Swing Jordan. You told us that you had one or two superstitions, and we discuss the screener I. Actually don't know other than you. You don't in your family. You said You gentlemen talking about death. I didn't really know what your superstitions all God. Web Begin very similar conditions. The VAT is on the wall. You can leave if you don't understand superstitious. Yeah, right so this. Is. Just growing up still won't do it now. No crossing on the stress. On the sand, no shoes on the table especially new. Crossing on the stairs, though is I think that's a common thing because you see in the Nice Big House, you have a nice big stack cases maybe is less of an issue. New Shoes on the table means that, so it's like you. Someone else could die because shoes on the table used to be associated with hanging. You don't put shoes on the table Laura. Yeah shoes on the table. You species aged with hanging. Yeah, because obviously be shoes. Before they released the hatch. Think, anyway. For Forget. Yes sounds like Beavis one teatime game show New Year's Day. You're not allowed to put any washing on lots of. She closed because your wash. Your wash out your family if you do that as day. Though we'll ladders walk over three dragons, three drains in succession was. Three drains dot. Walk over three drying step on a crack. Or, three drains a pub. No three drains. The pope's in the in the pavement. Whatever one I've so many that moment a memorial of elephants in House No. High. Finale sounds. No she she associated Vincent padlocks. Remember once you got a Qadri and elephant unabated kardashian ditch Thomas play outside. My God she talents. She never move to Rogers. Tom What's one for sorrow to for free for girl for a by? The Stepson, isn't it? No, it's about to do. Magpie Magpie Magpie every time. We see that we've got to say that Oh to be fair. Mike He. When we passed a magpie, we'll go. Honk Kinda Mr Magpie. How's your wife and kids trying to get? Yes, so you don't. To be an. Of said. I'm trying to think of what. Oh and if you say in, this is my worst one, if of say. Oh I've never broken me on that I'll make someone touch because you are asking for it lands, Torchwood Torchwood, and if there's no would they took. But. I never broken me on touch because you're GONNA, go out now and some. Eight brought about your mom and grandma and Granddad relationships dishes well. Are you not at all. No, not really. Yeah. We don't talk about death as well On. Someone could be on the deathbed by what you want. Funeral Vonts, grandma black thoughts about. potluck house we chromatic glass, breath, but yeah. Put Grandma you're on your way out. You'll jinx's May temporarily. I wanted to say I mean Gosh there. Have you got any super? That's even that's only half of. Eddie. I. Don't believe in wearing socks. Oh, yeah, that's bad. Luck as well. Just, pay breaking a mirror. That's another one. I don't really make a habit of that But over the not you know, it's crack on his normal everybody, Jordan's joke the week. Count wage. Maybe, it's not about death. Try phone sex once and I'll tell you the punchline after the break. Chart fold sex once put the holes with two small. Children threatens a terrible joke. Can I say I'm going to bring a vote here? Okay, how we've got a corum. I suggest we ditch Jordan's Jack of the week for maybe rested for few weeks. Let you accrue some jokes. Motion Carrot Ben e-voting. Ben's voting says two against one. Dunes check the week is paused for the time being second motion. What we replace it with all, let me. That's replaced. Jordan's a week with the triumphant return. All did do Williams wacky at the week. What can carry? Correct yes, marvelous, and actually it seems fishing bring. Williams why he worked for the week back. To we actually do. It's because someone tweeted us this week. That my wikipedia I haven't actually checked. This has been doctored. Oh i. see this as to include Williams why he word of the week. When him hence. It was sash on twitter. Who pointed the sound? Yes, hence. Currently. Hosts counseled how high stakes to my boss with part time radio presented your north and produce a hike is bent, does he shall time radio presenter now much of outlived? The show aims to offer advice listeners who've encountered modern day problems. The show briefly featured a segment called Williams apostrophe wacky word of the week in which William explains the meaning of a words. So that, we have my wikipedia. Bring it back? Did you change that yourself on your wikipedia Jr now? I would have put the poster in if I had now gene divas. If you love this podcast, we have got a little favor to ask. This. Hit the phone, this podcast has been built on word of mouth. Jian diva, two new G. and diva, so if everyone that listens shares this podcast with one two or even three other friends quality friends obviously. We would be over the moon. The should be a new post that instant today. If producer Ben has done its job properly, that would be perfect for this. Your favorite episode you've got a few to from when people always say tomato off not edgy podcast I always say always say series four episode one. Really. Asked the gay goes to not still yours strong. Just listening to your laugh at that it still like what I'm feeling. RIDICULOUS STORES! The I feel. Do you have a gay ghost update? Did you text me the other day? Yeah I think he's. Right. Okay well. We'll do that next week. And? And there is actually spotify playlist of. Some of our best episodes from the last four years any serious ones on there Ben. I'm being told he'll do so. You can even go to specify and tell you friends to. If they want the highlights of our back catalogue. They could go that what we love the most about you coming. I love anyway is when people say. Don't listen to. PODCASTS are Hud. Listen to podcasts, so if you get you mates to listen, they're not happy. Great. Tell you anti your own. Call your next door. Neighbor's cat sisters MOM's sister in law. Show them how to actually get podcasts up on their phone. Because a lot of people spend most of my time trying to show people where they get their podcasts how they complain explaining what a podcast is! Yeah. It's a joy sport, China, as spread the word, so we can get more revenue a more money in our pockets first question, please William, Hansen. This is station. Is Jordan north? We've got a word. The first question comes from Dulcie. Oh, maybe it's Dulcie. Who knows? Hello William and Jordan. My brother is engaged to a girl whose name I won't mention and I've never particularly liked. Anyway I've dealt with that because I have no choice, however, since being in lockdown, I've started watercolor painting, and even started a little business where people are asking for bespoke paintings, most of which are my floral wreaths, which is Pretty Niche. My sister all suddenly wrote on our family group chat. She is now doing watercolor without even mentioning it to me, claiming it was her own idea, and then a few days later, she photos on of her own watercolour reeves. She even sent my mom watercolor birthday. She's blatantly copying me and flaunting it for everyone to see. What do I do? Do I ignore her or do I confronted her. Thanks so much dulcie. I mean dose seat I mean this with the utmost respect that we talked about that last week. But. Then, there's been gone for way. Oh my God. Oh, what are you doing? He's toughened up. His woke all. I say Oscar genuine. Not, have both of you. saw. My advice, the Dulcie is not can I se Llama titles Ben's Gordon is bathroom. Yeah, you see that face and think those tiles. Let's put it that way. Sir Time I'll try my advice to Dulcie. Oh. You don't like it when you get interrupted, too, you know. Full time, I will try to give my advice to Dulcie. At those say. Shows Right you starting to annoy me. Fifth time. I will try to give my advice that they'll say. Look. In the grand scheme of things I don't like this person. Don't see eye to eye on the fact that she said Mama Walk. Yet the fact that she's sent Yuma water, color, painter, and public a bit, but in the grand scheme of things it's not that big of an issue, is it? Is it William? You you should sit there. smugly is the right word smugly Martino complete. The sentence should sit sm- smoke. Knowing in your heart, a heart that you came watercolor insert. She's jumped on your bandwagon. Be the. prouder person have more class. Don't say anything and just in the grand scheme of things think. She wants to do that and sample I started. I I mean you can't rewrite history and you did start at first, so you've always got that. I would imagine that maybe she's doing it for some attention, and she's probably going to get bored of it whereas you're still going to be doing watercolors in a year or two's time so I, probably righted. Hound sheets your sister in law so presumably all. Golf have regardless of what artistic activities she's doing. So I would be inclined to suck it up as annoying as it is maybe paint a watercolor and take out your frustration on your sister-in-law, gray idea, and maybe send us a picture of your color socialist. We'd love to see it. Yes, paint your feelings. Watercolors painting with watery paints in it. I believe so yes, so water base paint would won't be writer. Say Money, Jose, Watercolor painter I think monitor do some watercolors. Yes, I'll thank you. Thank you, thank you. Talking to sister windy. Don't. Sister Windy sister went Wendy. She was the none D-? She'd had whole TV show where she was this hilarious. None with huge teeth go. To say. A. Huge teeth right? Send you some sister. Wendy videos okay. Is you'll be your new favorite thing? Our next question comes from Timothy Peter Brooks Squire all. Email help at sex at my boss daughter. com say that name again. Timothy, Peter Brookes squad. Oh! Yes. DOT, com! Ben What? He's been getting assigned about my car. When I rolled the RS oh I loved the role. And how'd you all? Grow your. Tongue. I wish we could just in the face William. Helsing just pulled Di did nothing basically it was the Emoji face where you trying to be a bit flirt and sexy, and it side of some Emoji face. I thought that sarcastic as. You know when you say. What time will you be over half twelve little side mouth Emoji off twelve gotta be asleep. Afternoon. Already. Late night. Twenty twenty. I have to tell you mum assets moment once Dale I just where this is going on dateline how you've got from that. Come from Pope. A was in kitchen. And she's. Doing and she's like. Oh, I would dominic because why. Sat One of his bloody bill. He calls all right. For places a family owned you. Anyway back to Timothy Peter Barracks Squadra. Dear William and Jordan I'm a middle aged family man who moved from England to the United States of America nearly years ago. I tried to explain to my family. The correct way to eat toast and Marmalade is a nice, white cross loaf, toasted and put into a sterling silver toast drank. The Mama laid should be cont. I can forgive Robinson's in a pinch decanted into a small bowl, the butter, the butter and two knives. My family have accused of being Polish and just dig straight into the John. Please let them know if I am being extra. That's not believe can't say these days. In this time a very joy you who brought me much comfort much lower from San Francisco Timothy Pizza burks squire. Two things. I didn't know you could get Marmalade in thick cut. Yes if you add much office things at maps you. If you add an end to that word, it could probably be used to describe me, couldn't. Kutner. Now no put! Between the sea, and the NOPE, no put the between the YOU and the tea. Thank you susie Dinh's not GonNa? Lie Been called that a few times in my life. Very unfair. Cash second thing. I found this out recently by William. Handsome. Compensation because I've never really add Marmalade, all lemon curd never caught Sarah occurred. I found out mama ladies, basically just orange jam. Guess, no, that was like an eye opener for me, never seen as. I normally have on your toast jam, peanut butter, all proper and I love this on a night out bought retails proper. Bull reads like slashings of Park. So. His in butter margarine, no lip things. But I think your best. Giving advice hits to me because I've never really had mom laid, but I just say spreading out walking. I'm right well. That was wrong. Whether. You're having Marmalade or jam chocolate spreads. Whatever don't you have your piece of toast? You Buster? The forbids you at put whatever topping having on, and then you break it off and eat all you can break a first, and then on the Buzzer, and then put on the jam, but you bit by bit slowly. Not Travel on your triangle rectangle of bread. No not good telephone. How you? You tell us because when we went through that Nice. Breakfast what I did. Not Find Little Oh. Yeah, but you put the ball to on the side, and then you put the toast that we yes, so whatever you're going to have on your toes, you put some buster with about a knife or just another knife at from the butter dish onto the side of your plate. You don't put it directly onto the piece of taste. Then you get your jam with. With either a spoon or knife, or your Mama laid, and put that directly on the plate, and then with your own knife, you then take whatever and and Larry Rob Watson an absolute pfaff and waste of time, so it's Timothy Ri- in not just slap it on then, yes, he's correct and clearly his family needs need more than help more than US help. They need any parapet. Deranged what's Thin Marmalade? Will you normally just have sort of thick cut shred lois. which a thick Carter's fit cuts of the of the rind on appeal! Of the Orange I. Think what you have. You tells the kind of shows what class of person you are like. Chocolate spreads probably at the bottom. Yes, and you've got peanut butter and jam than Mama versus just means you're American. No, I love peanut butter, I feel. This of my Daily Mail Article Circa Two Thousand Sixteen. Next question boy toast! Stopping says about you know. We I think it might have done them. Right next question comes from Alice de Women Jordan I have an issue. I don't remember the last time I made it through a whole sentence without something going wrong either stand lose my train of thought or just fall apart midway through a word and can't finish although annoying. It doesn't bother me too much. However, something. Apparently, my friends and family find particularly irritating. Every time I start to talk I met with a sigh and I role ourselves tastic unusual words comment from someone. This really does just made me want to never say anything again to anyone, which is a shame because I'm actually quite hilarious, given the time, so my question is how do I politely tell my friends to stop being such impatient busters, and let me get words out in my own time without interruption love Alice. Jordan. You sometimes have trouble finishing so maybe you should. One. Sentences and words and the all your. You get lost yet. Alice first of all. I think you'll hilarious. I think you very funny, but he can tell from the letter, so you're right there second think if these people are telling you to hurry up or get to the point, then you should be surrounding yourself with people like this. Did you say so I'm so sorry? This is complete Missouri inappropriate time to do this, Alice. HURRY UP, HURRY UP! What's wrong with that? It's not it's not a dialect. Thing. Harry up. Real hard. EVERY UP! Yeah, anyway, if they're telling you to hurry up, it's there that they go fine example now. Lsu should not be surrounded by these people and you'll have you. B- You I've always said that this podcast ub you and it is really annoying when people interrupt your conversation and tried to get to fuss because what I'm telling a story I. Don't have roundabouts satellite right to choose. It could have been Wednesday because our pope. No actually warning Tuesday because it. Not so I do that a lot, so just carry on doing what you doing I'm sure you're a great storyteller. There's an art to storytelling. The really is and I don. Let Jordan I don't mind people correct to me though I used to hate it, but as I'm getting older, I'm like no. I need to learn so light. You say inherited a and what I said rose instead of rosary. That kind of thing. Who Your William Hudson Well Yeah Alice. This is this is annoying. Jordan F I do it's Jordan quite a lot obviously, but that's if I didn't very short episodes. Let's be honest. When people are. Doing it Jordan and I do it for comedic effect sometimes, even if Jordan doesn't know, he's being funny, but I get the sense from your letter that your friends and family probably aren't doing it for comedic effect, and are getting irritated, and that is a reflection on them. It's not a reflection on us. Remember that. If it gets continually annoying or you, you you snap then I suggest you take each of them to the side. Don't do it in front of everyone and very calmly and quietly. Just tell them this is. This is how it makes me feel. And could you don't do it because I didn't think it's helpful? Al Any learn. Correct this behavior, if I am able to. Not Be interrupted. You go now gene divas. We can let you into something here. This may cut from the, but whilst we recording this Ben has been asked to appear on talksport. and. He hasn't started talking yet, so I don't WanNA press play on my phone's feed, but if lots of people right him, saying what just produce bent sound like we're GonNa ever really got. His actual voice, but you might now come close to hearing his talksport voice, which is entirely different from. What we normally do, you usually speaks like this. When! He's being really calm and slow harvey. Always, sometimes, he speaks a bit more Pasha and other times when he's on talks, boy tries to light it up obeys days yet berry stokes, said if I'm debt fixed out fan while I. Tell you. What absolutely fuming without replaying at the moment I'll get me at rand it. sounded. Concentrating thanks now when he starts speaking, we will press I. Don't know if he's listening to US possibly is. He's actually just tweeted. Untouched for talk not stokes game against Leeds. Tonight and one of our gene is just at the time of the call in. To enact me. Say these that again Jordan. Anyway as we wait for Ben Jordan I haven't invitation for you. We've talked briefly about you never having an afternoon tea. I Have Oh, where do. We for his birthday. Would that was an. That's what we call a Manchester afternoon tea. I Beg your pardon that was it was lovely, and I love being around everybody. Would unite to join me in a few days time. Foreman Mason faster, not really. Yes. Well it couple of days time. Seriously, yes, if you'd like to. Your May. For that Mash on what do I need to wear? I'll send you an in depth Charles. Okay Oh Fulton the nate mason that's going to be really fancy is is it is? Highly behave. Let's see if Benzon. Outlet Music! Genuinely they give him a theme music because there's a program called bananas. Whether they had a parental Ben. Stoke, city. and. Maybe, Delilah, they take only tonight It's live on the character and Bonanza Ben Cartwright which is why they play. Oh. Stokes still right down there. We play enter these now used to it because from the wizards of drivel podcast. Ball dimension help sex at my boss. I'm pressing stop I'm not allowing more of this episode really. Yes, Jean de us if you want to get in touch with US sex, did my boss DOT com contact? All the information is there. Jordan. I will see you at forums. I'm looking forward to out. Thank you. And Jean Davis had a lovely wonderful week. Journal thank you. Believe Hudson. Thank you Ben contraints. Thank you chase. Gore's I'll say Oh, what? Goodbye

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The Great Playoff Debate: Round 2 (Gary Shuchuk, Jim Fox & NIck Nickson)

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The Great Playoff Debate: Round 2 (Gary Shuchuk, Jim Fox & NIck Nickson)

"You're listening to an LA kings podcast for more episodes of this and every other kings program visit L. A. Kings Dot com slash podcast. You're listening to all the king's men. The official todd cast of La Kings Southern Mel. Now here's your host Jesse Cohen. Welcome kings fans. I am Jesse Cohen. This is all the king's men presented to you by Manscaping on official partner of the L. A. Kings. You can get twenty percents off plus free shipping with the code. Kingsman AT LANDSCAPE DOT COM. That's MANSCAPING DOT COM and use the code king's men. It's time for another installment of the great playoff debate series of episodes. Were Jim Fox. Nixon will decide the best playoff series in kings history this week. We're focusing on the second round of the Stanley Cup playoffs. Where the canes have wins against the conducts in Nineteen ninety-three the Blues in two thousand twelve. The sharks in two thousand thirteen and of course that seventy series against the ducks in two thousand fourteen. Jim Nick will join me in about fifteen minutes to share their opinions. But first we're GONNA take a look back at the very first time. The kings advanced past the second round with Gary Shoot Chuck scored the game winner in double overtime of game five against Vancouver joining me now former forward for the La Kings Gary Shuchuk. How're you doing it? Gary? I'm doing great thanks yourself. I'm good thank. You know you were part of that ninety three team that made the run to the Stanley Cup final before losing to Montreal. We won't dwell on that. What I do want to talk about is the second round series against the Vancouver canucks. It went six games. The kings one four to three and in game five in double overtime. You scored the goal to win that game to send it back to La for game six Anything in particular about the series leading up to that game that sticks out in your mind. Well I think the big thing is we. Test Series Against Calgary first series against them. We're in Florida tune in virtually all on. I didn't play in those very kind of wanted to go with a different lineup From the end of the year Deli Rudy was Kinda struggling in net. And kind of going back and forth for him and Ross Stopper and so I just wanted to put guys in the line and so I was Kinda Itchy to get into the playoffs and You know kind of story be told Wayne went and talked to bury the ask them what they should do for. Change it and Wayne recommend put me in and I got put in for that series in You know it one of those series Plan Vancouver. That was basically under the part of the Out of the division I think their first overall they blew away everybody in our division. I think research like number one sees birch third seat and I think the media had Vancouver. Kind of walking old rust. We had a tough series against Kinda got US ready for Vancouver series. Sounds a little bit like the two thousand and twelve series between the kings and Vancouver? Everybody Picking Vancouver to win Vancouver out in. I kings limping in. Yeah exactly yeah you know we? We're just kind of we. We got in the playoffs. We do we kind of had a good surge at the end of the season there we actually had really gone goaltending by goalies a star Kelly Rudy. Then then it. Just Kinda team kind of snowballed to kind of put it all together against the cashier. I think we won that series. Four games the two but then new. You know our backs against them all going against Vancouver I said there no WanNa talk teams in the League and we're tired. You know. I think the might had twenty or you know. Close twenty points more details in our in our conference in their division. And so you know we've had to go out and play in so that's of did I think the first game we slipped and then And then the came down games three or four. It was again. It was a serious that I just came back Vancouver huge and You know once again. It kind of came to our advantage. What going back on three games to two now you score the game winner in double overtime goal mouth scramble. It's been described as I'm curious. Did you know before the puck went in the net lake? Did you know I've got this? This is a goal. Or did you find out after it went How how in the moment can you be in double overtime game? Winning goal of the playoffs. Three of the truth. I don't remember much which is probably probably the second period I got hit at the the red line by Gerald did it and I was not lights out I I was out cold By the red line there and so I kind of went back to the bench and that would end. I remember the game. It was it was kinda crazy for the rest of the second period. The third period and the double overtime not knowing what happened. And that's KINDA SCARED. I wouldn't happen in today's NHL but was one of those things where I just kind kinda shook the cobwebs out but I did not know what happened was funny. I was getting interviewed. Acciari scored Hawks Janada and I actually had to look at a teleprompter to kind of see what happened then. Oh yeah nothing nothing new so it was weird after watching on TV. I kind of knew when when they pass behind the net. I had you know small Jap from From Trish Mix Mcclain's goal pat and the global. I kind of slacked at it. And I knew by Maclean's reaction went in celebration was on coming back to game six then in La up. Three two kings go ahead and win. I WANNA say five to three in that last game I actually still have my ticket stub from that game game six. I can remember. I can remember being in the parking lot with with my dad after the game and just being so excited and I think I was fifteen years old and none of my friends like hockey and my dad was the only person I know we were just driving home from the forum. Just so excited. What was the crowd like in that game game six? I should say in the forum after beating Vancouver and advancing to the The conference finals. For the first time in franchise history it was. It was deafening. I remember from even when we had the warm ups for that for before the game that the forum has already rock and almost fall. People got there really kept watches. I remember we all came up with and the place was packed on. Jesus is just the atmosphere for women. I think with my best of the year. We're all flying around there. But no I think the fans knew. We had something special going on. I think we slow early. I think Vancouver had to catch up the rest of the day and you know I think we knew that we're kind of destined to to make it to the The conference finals against Toronto. But it was just one of those things you know the the goal that I scored or you know to Megan. Three to anything can happen. You know it's pillow deem luckily came back to La in winning six. If you know you never WANNA go down this year and I think that we went down three shoe going back. I think we would have been afraid. And I don't think we would have won that game even though it was at home looking at At the score sheets for the last two games in the series. You've got a couple of goals for a guy named Wayne Gretzky. Yari Curry scores Luc. Robitaille scores Rob Blake scores. Thomas Tomas Sandstrom Scores and then Warren Reichel and Gary Shoot Chuck both score. Keep talking about the depth of that team. I mean obviously loaded up front with guys like Gretzky Robitaille Answering McCurry but then Warren. Reichel has five points in the series. Pat Conquer has two points in the series. You've got that goal in double overtime talk about the split between the team. I think that's what made this so special. We had we had the superstar agree had Wayne. We had Yari we had. Marty mcsorley is on the point and rob late. I thought it was the third and fourth line guys kind of you know. Kinda brought everything together. We knew that that that way those guys would be you know getting close closely checked and guys cheesy playing them hard. So you know we. We had to do our job to play hard against their top Top Line guys we gotta to be harder for checks we new role and I think that's what I'm talking about teen really gelled at the right time and berries. One of these coaches were. You played all four lines and everybody got y'all fall sale to part of it. There's there's some when you're on a superstar team you know they won't play their third and fourth line. Fourth Line guys a lot. You know Sperry. But Barry rolled lines. We played and of course you know winning yard and Thomas brought up more ice time and which deserve because of the power place up but when it came when it came to like an energy shift or something had to go on. We knew myself and one Reiko even Corey Melanie adult. We knew a role we had to go out there and play hard and it kind of sparked a team when we at you. And that's what that's what happened. I don't know if you've been watching the last dance documentary that ESPN has been hearing about Michael Jordan. And the ninety eight ninety seven ninety eight bowls. I think the ninety seven ninety eight goals absolute obviously shows what a what a traveling circus of it had to have been traveling with Jordan but in ninety three with Gretzky in La was that did you guys experience any of that. I mean I know their stories about celebrities coming into the locker room whether it's Goldie Hawn Russell John Candy I mean was that no it was actually Kinda neat you know I grew up in I grew up in an and you hear stories about this but you know he had to actually John. Candy turn around with US during the playoffs. Who's actually trying to get ready to write a sequel to five movies. So he wanted he said down during our our pre game meal. We just wanted to hear stories. You just to hear stories about Minor League Hockey College Hockey and just we just kind of just sat around and BS with him he he thought it was awesome. And then of course the celebrities wanted to be around all the time and be in the locker room especially oxygen one so that that was the crazy thing. We'd love to see but you know like the way that watching the you know the last dance with Michael Jordan. I saw firsthand but had to go through the in Vancouver especially started going with conference file Toronto and then the Stanley Cup in Montreal. It wasn't absolutely donkey show for him and I feel bad for him because he couldn't really leave the hotel chauffeur meals with us because get bombarded you. I could sneak out the front dog. Who's that guy you know? But you know guy like wearing those guys. They couldn't do it. There's Kinda stuck in a hotel you know and I felt bad so I can relate what what Michael Jordan went to was. What Wade had to go through You know especially during that time especially up in Canada when we're playing in the conference file in the Stanley Cup final against Toronto and Montreal. All Canadian teams you guys. Face that that playoff run and obviously Montreal had their tremendous ot record but but that double overtime goal again. Man I just. There are some moments that are just burned in my brain as a kings fan and that is one hundred percent one of them. I'm looking down the roster of the Vancouver canucks cliff ronning Pablo Beret Jeff Gordon Trevor. Linden Dixon Ward Bomb Ed Semenov Sergei Mess Murray Craven Uric. Lou May You mentioned Gerald Dick Babich who played for the Kings. Later Kirk McLean. Was there one player on that team in that series that that you guys really had your eye on that when he was on the ice you step up your game. I think fell breath. Probably one of the guys we really had to focus on you know the he he could still like the win. Russian pocket talking rock. They call them. I thought that we really did a good job of really eliminating the his scoring chances when he when he goes out there. But you know like I said they're team so had so much depth and they had you a lot of NHL experience now. I battle cliff ronning all the time you know. I think we're about the same size. But he's one of those guys again. You couldn't give them a lot of room out there. Just have so much death with several in and captain. That's you know that's the reason why they were slight division champions by so many points because how good you know the biggest thing. Also Kirk McLean in goal. That was just a rock form. Back in the typhoid. I mean he was another reason. Why so many games and had had success in the playoffs actually leading up so he had number and I can't remember overall record against Gun the season but it wasn't good and I think a lot of people didn't think we had a chance against especially with the Bethel satisfied going into that series. We gain confidence planning a real tough substrates gets calendar and we KINDA KNEW. We had nothing really. The loser's go play hard very happy with a great motivator like he only us us being you know the underdog against Vancouver to our advantage. No respect no one in Canada wants us to win where keeping California big deal. They don't want to say at a California team being another Canadian team so he kind of does motivation for us and I think that helped us and we kind of bought into what he was preaching on lucrative stats the series and to your point. Pablo Berry just five points in six games only one one bowl a minus two so I mean good job. Outta you guys to hold him down. That's impressive guys. Remember Barry Saint Anytime on. Nash's stick on them next year. Hit you know if you see him. Just keep bumping him out there. I remember that Mary kept saying a couple of slur and Russia. And I tell you but it was We did a good job and I think that's the difference. You know our top guys you know they. They started when would need me. Being good goal tended and I think that we all kind of bought into our roles and it kind of carried into the rest of the playoffs for us. Well Gary Thank you very much for a wonderful memory to for generation of sand and thanks for joining us here today. We appreciate it. Thank you what time and I said Please stay safe out there. And hopefully this stay at home. I N Sue and get back to normal ice from your lips to the hockey gods. Here's Gary thanks again. Thank you so much appreciate. It is time for the great playoff debate round to joining me again. Jim Fox. How're you doing today? Jim Jesse through in great. Thank you very much hanging in there. And every time I think back on the series of kings win it makes it that much better. Well that's what we're here for an Nixon joining us. How are you doing today Nick doing well Jesse good to talk to you again? Foxy and Yeah this is GonNa be a A series that We're GONNA look back on and Have a lot of good things to say about It was a I in a number of a way. So yeah looking forward to this segment. Yeah I was a little surprised. I suppose that you both pick the same series lawyers. I shouldn't be We spoke to Gary shoot check already about the ninety three series against Vancouver which was the first time the Kings had advanced past the second round Just on a personal note. The two thousand twelve sweep of the Saint Louis. Blues will always be my favourite king series because I still am hurt over the ninety eight series against the blues. And so for me. That was a sweet revenge for the Kings to get their first series sweep in franchise history against Louis but let's get into the two thousand and fourteen second round series against the Anaheim ducks the first time the kings and the ducks ever faced off in the playoffs. That series really Looking at the totals was all marrying gabric. Six goals for ten points plus four lead the Kings Agyei. Copays are eight assists one goal nine points in the series. Justin Williams and Jeff Carter both with five points kings win St- game seven on the road and again just a little personal note. I was able to secure a ticket to that game. The day of the game for About one hundred dollars. Think so all of those rumors about a about the Honda Center being staple south. Maybe a little bit of truth to that. But let's start with you. Jim Biggest takeaway for you from that series against the ducks. Well the reason I picked as my series Jesse and just be. I'm going to try to simplify things. I'm going to go to three specific reasons why I believe. It's my favorite second round series. The king's point reason number one it's against duct right reason number two against the ducks and reason number three. It was against the ducks three excellent reasons just to add to that. The kings didn't want to get serious. Really let's not forget we'll get into it but yeah the kings playing. The Diet was the first time they'd ever met in the postseason. Right but I had forgotten this Anaheim had the best record in the western conference. They were the number one seed that season so it was a kings team that was in the conference final year before lost to Chicago and two years prior to that in two thousand twelve a their first Stanley Cup. So Yeah Yeah it was the ducks but I think what added a bit more flavor to it. It was a very good Anaheim team. The kings had to take on and of course Anaheim had the the home ice in that in that series the I think the whole fourteen playoff neck and again I talk about it many times. I it just my opinion. I'm pretty sure the numbers would bare it out. But I think the Kings winning fourteen the road to the Stanley Cup. Final was the most difficult road the history of the National Hockey League. I'm GonNa go that far. I mean you get down three to San Jose in the first year. He's you have to play you match number one seed in the second series. You're getting into a situation where Chicago is. Are they? In the midst of Salary Cap Dynasty. You know just to get there so anaheim a big part of that. I know just you started with a couple numbers to me in crunch time situations. Unfortunately I have a tremendous amount of respect for these guys. Sometimes we can joke about things. Sometimes we have to get serious but I think this Lafon Perry were both minus five in the series Co Petar was plus five Gabbara of plus four a lot of the crunch big time important goals. That were scored. That was the matchup and the Kings won the match up of the top lines absolutely and Marianne Gabric I mean looking back over the years. Not only in series the kings have been involved in but other teams that have been in the playoffs. How often does a player in a seven game series score in every road game in four road games which is what Gabric did he had six goals in the series Jesse talked about but they were all in Anaheim Ties it late in game? One after the kings pulled goaltender and wins it in over time and that Kinda set the tone for the kings and and of course Gabric like Carter in twenty twelve was deadline acquisition that season and he was brought in. You know to add offense and only did in that series as I mentioned was get six goals and as it turned out he led the NHL playoff goes eight years. So good for Marian Gabbard. All you can do score. Well that's the winning numbers when you're putting up numbers like that in the playoffs. You don't need to do anything else. I mean. I've talked about it on other podcasts. It's it's the MVP the Conn. Smythe doesn't always go to your best player. You know it goes to a difference maker. Sometimes if there was a second choice to Justin Williams and I would go with Gabric and because of the goals he scored because of when he scored the goals and many times the type of goal he scored was not necessarily the Marion Gabbert. Enter with speed and bigshot. It was your nose into scrum situation Absolutely and I was just kind of a reliving some of the highlights of that series with Gabric and and and in the first game when Anaheim's got a two to one lead late in the king's pull the goaltender. Gabric is going to the net and he got a rebound or a tip of a Mike. Richard Shot so again. Not a a skill type of goal that you would expect that we've seen so many times from Marian and then over time the same thing he goes to the front of the net copay tarp puts it in front of me. Tips it in so yeah again Gabric had a great playoff series. And his attorney one is only Stanley Cup in his career In twenty fourteen but yet he give him marks and we don't have to talk about much now but you know in the following series against Chicago. It was the same thing he had some big goals against the blackhawks similar thing. Just go to the net. Be there for tips. Be there for rebounds and very effective. I agree with you Fox. Yeah I I think and I don't know maybe we can ask some of the writers when we get back to normal hopefully in a couple of months Where Marian Gabric in the cons fights the voting your as you mentioned Williams did win it and certainly you know a difference maker in the three game. Seven's got the kings to the final. But yeah you gotta think in Marian got got his share of votes in twenty fourteen. Let's talk about speed real quick in the first series against the sharks in two thousand fourteen and sat out the first two games then he gets inserted into the lineup and it felt like at least from in my memory that the the kings regained a little bit of speed in a lineup that had been killing them in Games. One and two. How important was it? Jim You've talked about how in two thousand twelve team won on defense and in two thousand fourteen. They just came out and attacked other teams. How important was it to have players like Gabric like Carter like Pearson in the lineup against the Anaheim ducks team? That finished first in the division wasn't different makeup. Jesse you right now. You can add speed throughout your lineup and know that was I think the big contrast between twelve and fourteen was just that addition of speed and already had added Carter two years previous. You pick up Gabric Nick. I'll tell ya we checked into the hotel. This is first series but rejected the hotel in San Jose for game. One and I just went to Lombardy. I said Dean a minute just to pick your brain just before the playoffs star. Here just WANNA get gone. He talked to me for forty five minutes and forty two of those minutes. We're about the homework. The kings did to acquire Marian Gabric. And how much tape they watch. How much in person they scouted. How many people? They talked to trainers former coaches former teammates. It was incredible the homework they did so. Yeah I think you know you get a guy like Pearson come into a series inject speed you have got like Gabbara. Who Does the same thing? Then you have a corner on a separate line and before you know it you're just looking down through the lines and you're gone okay. This is not the get delete hold on and win like two thousand twelve. This is okay. If need be we can outscoring you too. Yeah let's not forget Tyler. Toffoli who like Pearson was a rookie that season in maybe doesn't have the the speeder quickness of those other players. You mentioned Jim but You know deadly around the net a tremendous shot as you can appreciate and he comes in and and there's another there's another weapon and as it turned out I think he wound up Setting a Kings record for most points by a rookie in a playoff here in two thousand fourteen. So yeah you put Tyler to fully in the mix there and now it's like pick your poison what line even to try and match up against Justin Williams who turned out to be the MVP for the most part you could. You could make the argument in that playoff year. He was on the third line. He played with with jared. Stoll and Dwight King. Quite often throughout the playoff series. Now they juggle the lines late in Games. That was closed. And you know going with veterans things like that as coaches always do but yeah I mean kings were tough team to match up against in Twenty Fourteen. Probably more so than they were The year before in two thousand thirteen in two thousand twelve won the cup. Because of those additions that you just talked about I think if I were comparing the teams and I knew were just talking about fourteen here but if I had to win one game just one. I would go with the twelve team because they were more consistent. You know exactly what you're going to get fired. A seven game series. I think I would go with fourteen team because they could win in different ways and through the course of a series that long you might have to find different ways. Mccain's did not go off on a tangent here. Game One injury to Robin regeer. The rest of the series Jeff Schultz comes in and plays an average of nineteen minutes and eight seconds of game so this is not a guy was inserted and just sits on the end of the bench. He comes in and plays on the second pairing and as I've talked before and I always have practices just talking about hockey. Just the hockey aspect. This Slava Voinov was a damn good player. I mean he could escape pressure he could move the puck he could attack in the zone defensively. Not Big but he was so strong on his skates and again. We know the reasons what happened. But that's not to get a team that that had more attack to it. I think the previous company and just to add a couple of things on Jeff Schultz A guy comes in and basically it was. He was the third line of Defense. If you will because Willie Mitchell was was injured early In the playoff year regeer then replaces Mitchell he goes down and then scholtz replaces regeer and You're right Jim I was looking at some of the numbers on Scholtz and he plays basically the series. The I'm series would Slava Voinov so there is your your second pair so to speak although it's tough to call. Martinez in green a third pair of for as effective. They've been and were in the playoffs over the years but Schultz was even in every game he played and you talked about the minutes and you know he had experience He had well over. I think four or five hundred. Nhl Games Mostly with the Washington capitals so knew how to play the game. He kept it. Simple a wasn't fancy Darryl sutter use them killing penalties Which he did with Voinov quite a bit and you know just one of those stories that whenever you analyze the playoff series especially when you look at a team that won the series like the Kings did against Anaheim this year. A good story a story where our guy you know gets his opportunity and makes the most of it and he was very dependable. And you can't discount the effectiveness that he had on the Kings being Ah Pretty steady of pretty sound team. Not only in the series but throughout the twentieth. Fourteen playoff run. Did he go? Did he play again after the answers you know? I think he did. I think it was Chicago in round. Three and I I know Willie Mitchell didn't I don't know if we're gear. Can I want to say regeer may be comes back later in that Chicago series? But don't hold me to that I'd to get up my sheets on that I'll look his game log right now as we're going into that but I was Glad you guys brought up the defense. Obviously in two thousand and twelve all six defencemen played every single game In that playoff run and so to have Jeff Schultz and and Robin Gear and and I think one other player whose name escapes me at the moment might have gotten in there but I could be wrong but to have those guys step up and fill in those steps roles. I mean it it. It just reminds me every time of Jeff shelves picture with the Stanley Cup. Where he's in a pool wearing a suit and a floating with the Stanley Akzo. But just a really did. I just looked Jesse. He played seven total games and and I think he played the last six in the Anaheim series so probably he plays game one against Chicago. And then revere comes back. Because I don't think Willie Mitchell was able to come back that playoff year. I might have been mistaken But as far shows his series was the Anaheim series played six of the seven games that he got into that playoff year against the ducks The the numbers I'm looking at Mitchell played in eighteen games so I think that might have actually just been the series. That Mitchell missed was that was that Anaheim series But regardless tremendous team effort. Let's go ahead and run through the Games real quick. We don't have to get too deep in the weeds. We'll start with games one and two at the Honda Center. Both kings win the first three to win in overtime. Goals from marrying Gabric mentioned Abbott game to marrying Gabric starts the scoring and the Kings win three to one jim anything particularly in that game. The you felt Help the Kings win the game or series? Well I think there's no question in game. Two it is Mr Jospin quickly. Kings were outshot. Thirty seven to seventeen. Doesn't always tell the story but you get into a playoff series. You need different guys to do at different times. And I think Jonathan he was picked the Number One star that gained Alec Martinez was Pick Number. Two Star and I was talking earlier about difference makers to me in their series. When you talk about the injury situation I think you make a a pretty good argument that Alec Martinez was the biggest difference maker for the kings and that he was a third pair defenseman earlier and then he probably still played on the third pair but his mixed his minutes went up to the point where he would be considered a second pairing guy or he was just he was about eighteen and a half minutes so just the difference make he made in. Games one game. Two for sure on that series. Yeah and I think Obviously in this series the home team just couldn't hold serve Early in the series with kings taking games one and two and Honda centers so the fact that the kings rebelled to keep themselves in both games one and two They scored I in each game. I prayed goal in game one by Martinez and then Gabric. Thirty four seconds game and that was huge. I mean as it turned out the team that scored I and all seven games while ended up winning in this series but to go into Anaheim again against a very good team that had hundred sixteen points at one hundred and sixteen points that year. Fifty four wins and you know. Anaheim got three goals in two games and the Kings Are Seemingly looking real good by Going to home ice for games three and four at staples. Now we get into game three and four at staples like you said Nick. And this is where the one weak spot emerges as far is the arguments for kings domine is that is that the the ducks begin to start having goaltending issues. Much like the sharks before them Jim Are you at all compelled by the idea that Boot using three goals in this series should be taken into account as far as determining the quality of the win. It changed the series around right back a little bit later eastern Anaheim when Gibson comes in but you know. Sometimes you're forced to do that because of injury I always felt even though even though you know. The ducks made it more than tough series. I feel that the team that is not forced to make a move a change in adjustment. As long as it doesn't have to do with injury of course injury comes you have to make an adjustment and not that usually makes the first adjustment is team. That's on their heels and the team that usually doesn't end up winning the series and know that they were forced to go with Gibson game for he comes in throws a shutout whose first playoff game the Kings Twenty eight to fourteen doubling up on shots on goal also huge win for John Gibson. But you know I don't. I don't know if boo shuffling things around as much as not just getting to a point of maybe his hand was forced at least start and then he's looking for a spark but if I'm not mistaken later on in the series I believe Mr Gibson gave up a bad goal leaky goal. And you know it happens to everyone that happens to everyone. But that that's a tough one. Bruce is you know. He's given a lot of credit for regular season. These dumped on for playoff. And maybe I let my relationship with him just in. It's not really a close relationship. When he was around the kings for a while so I tend to look a little bit nicer on Bruce than than maybe most people. Now you mentioned John Gibson And you remember Fox. Maybe you do to Jesse listening to Darryl Sutter When he was asked about John Gibson shutting out the kings and and the the remark. I always remember Darryl said. I don't think he'll ever give up a goal. It's let nobody is ever going to score against this kid. And that was a typical darryl sutter retort to a question like that And of course you know. Maybe the kid reads it. Maybe he doesn't mind games. Go on with coaches a especially in playoffs in all sports. But that's the one thing I remember after Gibson shut out the Kings In that fourth game was Darryl Sutter. Just a cab sarcastically. Telling everybody all ease the best goaltender we've ever seen. Nobody's ever gonNA score against them. And I think if I'm not mistaken in the same I don't know made with Darrell at one point. You're saying oh he's the best goaltender in the world by John Gibson. He's about he's the best you know little bit earlier earlier in the relationship with Jonathan Quick Johnson already won the Stanley Cup by then but earlier. That relationship between Darryl Sutter quick. There'll used to do that on purpose. Just Josh Terrell Jonathan up a little bit just to get him on edge because he always felt that Jonathan played best when it was on an drew. Doughty is on record as saying that Anytime they would play a team whether it was the sharks or Chicago that had a big prime number one defenseman on their roster that Darryl would would say something along the same lines like you know out Norris Trophy winning defensemen over their best advancement. Dowdy said a few times. I think that he knew what what sutter was doing. And and he would laugh about it but that it would work anyway did he would still come out and have a huge game. Let's go ahead and talk about games. Five and six we talked about the addition of Tanta. Pearson we talked about the addition of Marion Gabric. But there's a player from two thousand fourteen That we didn't talk about even when we covered all the defensemen. And that's Jake. He scores the first goal in game. Six Drew Doughty paired with Rob Gary. All through the two thousand and twelve playoffs but in two thousand fourteen. He's paired with Jake. Muhsin Jake or sorry Jim how did playing with Muhsin changed out his game and make that top pairing better than two thousand twelve. Well I think it. It gave drew a partner that could counter attack to also and I'm not sure I think there was a pretty big differential withdrew previously in that state. Home Guy Withdraw all the time. Mas Probably early skirt was more so like that. But his skating is so underrated his power his ability to close gaps then is ability to go the other way off. I think as the playoffs went along. Mas was used more and more in situations offensive zone. Faceoff get him out there. Make sure he's out there and I think for drew that just that gave them now. Ju- didn't have to single escape pressure. More so than in the past he could just dish it off to the other guy and that would be must and months can do his thing to and again Muhsin goes into the category of that type of player. We were comparing twenty fourteen additions to the two thousand twelve team and and their strengths which obviously was defense and goaltending and we talked about no adding Carter and a Pearson and again averick and into fully on the back end. You Know Muhsin gives you so many more weapons and not disparaging guy like rops Gary. But there's more to Jake Muslims game than there is to skit aries and and that's just another weapon that kings could use especially on the power play. Even though he was a young player he got his share power. Playtime in the two thousand fourteen playoffs. And I know when he first came up one thing that took my I when Muhsin was playing that left quite he had a a real good ability of just kind of hesitating when taking shot to kind of forced the defense to make that first little move the shop locker if you will and that would give him a little more opening to get that puck through so yet Jake Muhsin Had A lot of tools that that as we found out came out beginning with the Two thousand fourteen playoffs. So you guys know that. I like to pair. Up Games and playoff series. We have the kings and the ducks tied at two games apiece. After four with an even goal differential games five and six five goes to Anaheim at home six goes to the Kings at home again maintaining that similar goal differential heading into game seven. You could make the argument that the two teams are neck and neck. It's dead even And then game seven. The kings put the definitive stamp on the series. I remember again being at the Honda Center. We were sitting up in the upper bowl Behind the ducks net defending their net. And even though it was just the second goal of the game and it didn't wind up being the game winner I will never forget. Jeff Carter scoring that goal and to me. It felt like the game was over in that moment gem. I'll ask you again to validate my crazy theory that there's always sort of a signature game where one team pulls away in really beats the other one and that to me was game seven. Yes yeah I mean. It's I mean when I thought back on game seven. I have a very personal thaad which I'll get to in a minute but nothing in Corey. Perry gets a penalty shot. This is first period. So obviously unsuccessful. Quick gets the job. I'm not a what if guy but if it's to one early in the game right it never gets to find enough. It never gets to that to that point. So that's just one of the things. Now that I look back at the numbers. Look back at the game sheets. Just try to figure out what's going on there. That's that's something that stands out to me. You know you have may have you just have I look at that Game Sheet Jesse in one thing that just how many different guys participated getting it done. And that's that's the thing that stands out to me. How many different lines? But then Justin Williams with two points in that game is it gets the scoring started is it is it. Just you know part of his little chip in here Japan. They're not the superstar player but man. Can he be counted on? It's it's impressive to see what's going on there. I'm just looking here. At the Muslims. Total was twenty two minutes. Nice time in game seven game six. It was even higher than that. It was twenty five minutes so yeah just so many different people in this game. The one thing that stands out to me is the penalty shot. That's what kinda catches my attention. You know that's a two goal swing as it turns out within about a minute because Perry get stopped on the penalty shot at fourteen hundred eight to keep to nothing kings and at fifteen twelve a minute four seconds later it's makes it three nothing so what could have been a two to one game at Honda Center in Game. Seven is now three nothing kings and and uh build from there but yeah. I I'm with you. I mean it's hard to say that a game seven series isn't the pivotal game of a playoff series but pivotal point in that game seven. I agree with you totally. Is Jonathan Quick Stopping Coreper and it was and it was a good read by quick if remember really did make save on as Perry came in so and that that's a play you don't see a lot of on a penalty shot but Boy that was that was just huge. That was I'm with you. One hundred percent turning quite in game seven and It's it's the relationship if we want to call it. That between quick and Perry was very competitive. I'll just say being nicely so that just kind of puts in the back of my mind even more. Yeah I was listening to the entire game seven last week. And it's just uncanny. How many times after the whistle? I'm mentioning Perry's being pushed away from quick after the whistle You know Perry's around the net. He deflects the PUCK. Quick is complaining to the referee talking to the referee about the contact. The traffic so yeah. I mean it had been building for a few years and you know to great players trying to get the better of each other. And that's what makes you know the game within the game so exciting so much fun to watch. Jimmy mentioned that. There was a element to your recollection of this. Well it's just Again it's second round so we are no longer doing game broadcasts so we're doing post game in preparation for post game preparation for me. I would be in the production truck the entire game I would be watching from. They are preparing highlights. Doing telestrator is getting things ready. Now it gets to five nothing now. I'm inside the truck and we're in Anaheim. It's a Fox sports crew. But you know a lot of those people are closer to the docks. They worked very games more so than kings games. So you don't WanNa be that a rub it in guy and I don't WanNa be that guy out I'm not that type but just because of my mindset in nerves you know the ducks made at five to right before the end or rate at the end of the five was a five one and then five to early third at that point just be. I'm get I'm not doing the game. I'm prepping I walk outside the truck. I can't watch anymore. Honestly I walked to the furthest point I would say north east point of the parking lot. There is no one outside in that parking lot but it is packed and I just keep walking. I keep looking at my watch. I can hear inside the building. I mean I can hear what's going on with you. I can hear that but I can't tell what's going on. I just can't right I just don't know so I did to the far point and I say okay it's GonNa be down now. You're getting down to lease last ten minutes so I turned around not walking back towards the bill when I get half and I'm I'm the only person in this parking lot and I remember hearing cheers and I knew it wasn't the duck scoring new it. No there's enough kings fans there right. I knew a goal scored and I said to myself that has to be the kings it has to be because it's a reaction but it's not Anaheim and of course it was Tanner Pearson and he was going to make it six two. So at that point I just basically ran back to the truck because I knew that the game over. But that's just it's it's a rivalry. It's a huge rivalry. Nick touched on earlier is the first time these teams how much have people said. Oh the way to get the game really on the map we just we want Stanley Cup but get on the map and southern California's to have a series between the kings and ducks. Will you get it and I was I was? I was having a difficult time staying still so I had to go for a little walk. Are you talking about the the the media parking lot were literally does take off into a tiny little point? That's a long walk. Jim I had to. I was killing time. I was going by time on my watch. Of course I wasn't listening to the game. I didn't have a radio. I you know I didn't have my phone. I just I was walking and I was just trying to kill time but I knew once I got to the end of the parking lot I had to come back just turned around it. I just WanNa just look at my sheet here guys and we talked about the first parade penalty. Shots a bike quick. And then a minute after that Richard scores to make it three nothing looking at the notes ahead in the second period. Copay tar gotTA goal early in the Second. Make it for nothing. And you're you're looking like you know it's going to happen right. The Kings GonNa win the game but at five eleven. Silverberg saved quick eight minutes. Perry Save Quick. Eleven minutes gets left. Save and I don't write down every save. I just write down the big saves on my on my sheet. So you know. Even though the score was lopsided in the end I mean quick as a huge reason why the kings rival to build lead and maintain the lead as I look back on on some of the the people he stopped him. You look good players here right Silverberg. Perry gets laugh. Perry the penalty shot in the first period. So yet quick certainly earned in game seven. Actually he was the second star. Even though it was a quote blow up for a playoff game I mean I understand why. He wasn't really considered for Conn. Smythe Trophy win. That season. Obviously three series going to game seven and getting pulled in a game or two but I think the expression about the power plays. It's not how many it's when they come. Is it the same thing Jim With saves a goalie performance. Like if if he if a goalie has a bad game or two is it. Erased by having a dominant performance. When it matters I think I think in the playoffs framing of situations. Yes goes to a higher level of importance. I because you're you're so focused on any one game and I think players especially nowadays do a great job in they do a great job in parking it and moving onto the next one but again at my biggest way to go numbers. Wise here is this power. Play percentage is less important or penalty. Kill percentage is less important compared to when you get the big power play goal or when you get the Big Helen. Kill and I think that fits the case for saves also your with quick in in twenty. Fourteen numbers are good. I mean He again was in goal for basically every game. You Won Sixteen Games again like you didn't twenty twelve when he won the Conn. Smythe but I think when you compare as two thousand fourteen numbers to his twenty twelve numbers which are out of sight. I mean probably that gives cause for a lot of people considering playoff. Mvp's to say wasn't quite as good as he wasn't twenty twelve's let's look somewhere else but again I totally agree with Jim It's not it's it's not How many it's it's how and it's not the amount of power play goals is when you get them. It's not the amount of Windsor. Saves. It's one you make them and You know in game seven you know we talked about in Jim. Touched on it It happened in the first round in the Comeback Series of San Jose when the Kings won that game seven on the road The kings big guys took over again Williams and copay Tar and drew doughty and Jonathan. Quick Asala game. Same thing in game seven in the Anaheim series as you mentioned a Williams Charter Richards. Copa Dr Gabric. Jonathan quick did what he had to do. So yeah it was. It was the start of a playoff run There was fun to watch. Because of the tenseness that was involved almost in every series The kings were facing so many elimination games. But when push came to shove the kings came through and it was a number of veteran players that you would expect to get them through. That actually did get them through an Doue Second Stanley Cup. You guys on. I'm not this gets me into trouble when I talked with both the One I'm talking about the goaltenders union but I'm I very rarely go to a goaltender for my selection as the cons might win because I have the can you win the Stanley Cup with. Oh great goaltending. No and you're GONNA get it's given given to me and that's where Jonathan more than most Kinda get. It's a little bit. We were just talking. Also Jesse is sometimes the way how Jonathan makes save can have more Impact than just the one save. That goes on the Scott category because there are some times because of his style he robs somebody like just basically robs them and I think at times that can allow a goaltender light. Quick I think career wise. I'm not comparing Dominic Cautious Jonathan quick. But you take on a single game. I think I think it was like that too. He would rob guys he. You think you have him on one side of the corner and boom right across wide open. That humic and quick was like that so I I think sometimes Johnson's able to get into the head of opposition players and in a playoff series. Sometimes that makes a difference because you get further into series and now the shooters are starting to be perfect and trying to be perfect and you create that doubt and it works against the at I would just add a quick and and you know your your belief and your thought process on. Can you get you win a Stanley Cup? Without great goaltending usually no but going back to two thousand twelve when quick did win the conn spite this playoff MVP. I mean his numbers are just out of this world. I mean you go back to all the goalies who have won a playoff. Mvp Trophy and very few of any Put up numbers like Jonathan Quick and that was for him just a continuation of what he did to get the kings into the playoffs. That year. And Jim you and I talked it I think. What was the number ten or eleven times in time regular season ten times? The king scored one goal or none and they got points all ten of those games. And that's not by accident. That's because the guy he should have won the Vezina trophy that year as well. I'm convinced the only reason he didn't is because he played on the West Coast and I think lundquist wanted that year. He was on the East Coast. But if it's not for John too quick and and in talking to the players after the Kings won the Cup and twenty twelve They said to a man if it's not for him we're not even here. We don't even have a chance because the kings as we all know barely got in as the eighth seed in two thousand twelve and and You know that's where I think for the for those of us who had the opportunity to seek quick throughout that regular season and throughout that playoff run in the eleven twelve season. You're not going to better goaltending from the start of the season through the end of the playoffs probably ever again. I mean that's how good Jonathan Quick was during the regular season that year and the postseason yet will don't don't confuse me saying that it's not. I wouldn't go that way. I went pick a goaltender but it's lower. I think on lie standards than most people. There is no question in my mind that game one and game two in Saint Louis Second Round series two thousand twelve. I ten minutes of both of those games. That's Jonathan quick when the consummate trophy. He was incredible. They were all over the kings and back to timing again early. First ten minutes in both of those games on the road. That's where I believe. He wanted to concentrate because he was over. And above. And if I'm not mistaken set. Nhl Records in that. Two thousand twelve run with one point four one goals against an a nine forty six save percentage As far as goalies that had played a certain number of games. But look if we're GONNA talk about him losing the Vezina trophy doesn't twelve on money. Get Mad so Jim. I'M GONNA have to go to a story that lots of kings fans to this day. Still hold on. Hold on hold on hold on who said he should lose the consummate grover not consummate the VEZINA folks lundquist now. I'm still in the mind as good at East Coast bias. There good suits. He plays the guitar easy. Mommy but But look there's a story from just at the end of the two thousand eleven two thousand twelve regular season. Jim and I'll give you a chance to duck out of responding to this if you want to. But you and Brian Hayward appear on a pre game telecasts then. He flashes his Stanley Cup. Ring at you. Does the Kings winning the series against the ducks in two thousand fourteen and ultimately winning the Cup for the second time? Giving you a second ring. The flash Brian Hayward did that make it any sweeter. It never entered my mind okay for entered my mind. I will say this. There wasn't another. I believe it was in maybe an eleven or previous that Brian. Neither doing another intermission segment together and the question posed was which team is closer to winning the next Stanley Cup? Anaheim already won by the kings are not and I went through some. I think some pretty convincing argument why the Kings would be that team and I believe that was in two thousand eleven and I think if I'm not mistaken a Yes yes you were any takeaway here before we wrap it up. Take away from the Anaheim series Great Series I hope the two teams meet more often in the postseason. Because as we've talked about it's the southern California rival reason and whether or not it's a team like Anaheim for the kings or a Colorado or a Vancouver and Edmonton. You've gotta play these teams in the playoffs and play them more than once or twice. That's when the rivalry to me really gets heated up carries over into the regular season and it gives people something to talk about even when things are going. Well so yeah. I'm just hoping it's been what six years now since they. They met for the First Time. They haven't met since but Boy Very much looking forward to the next Anaheim Kings playoff series and in the series against Anaheim. It wasn't a high scoring series by any means. But it's Kinda goes back to what we started talking about ready to the beginning of this podcast and that is a little bit kings could win in different ways and I think that came out certainly in the first series against San Jose. It's it's coming out even more here against Anaheim where just you know not as clockwork as two thousand twelve but maybe surprising to a lot of people in certain areas where the kings were able to win games in different ways ways that they weren't expected to do and that made him even not much more difficult to beat because they could well. It was a lot of fun going back over this series. So I guess we're going to have. We don't have to ask if you've convinced other because like I said you both picked the two thousand fourteen seven scam win over the Anaheim ducks as the best second round series in kings history. We hope you enjoyed it kings fans. We'll be back in two weeks to talk about the Best Conference Final Series and kings and I'll be really curious to see if you guys come down on the same one and that one Jim Nick. Thanks very much my pleasure. I can't wait to do the next one because it is the best series I have ever seen. Wow THAT'S A. That's a heck of a teaser. We'll talk to you soon King Sam.

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Oct. 26, 2018: One Night In Winnipeg

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Oct. 26, 2018: One Night In Winnipeg

"Uh-huh. First of all, thank you very much for about thirty one on behalf of my family. Thank you. We my family. Thanks who David amber for filling in for me for the past couple of days. Thanks at Haller executive producer for allowing me time off. Thanks to Dave Cadeau. It's force that five ninety the fan for lying some time off as well things Kibria's, including Armstrong who picked up a lot of slack on Tuesdays. I had to leave halfway through the show to be with my father who's been in hospital for the past wile who passed away Tuesday night at six seventeen in the evening with me and my wife by his side. Not that I want to turn this whole podcast. Look at me. We had this conversation just before the podcast as well. But I just wanted to acknowledge people that have. Helped me through this and continued to help me through this. This isn't a hero act on that. Hey, look at me. I'm back doing my job. Everybody wanted to do this podcast. We did the interview last week with Ryan Riley wanted to top and tail this podcast with this week and kind of wanted to get back to some normalcy as quickly as possible. It was it's been a tough couple of days for our families. You can imagine for whatever reason the internet is very kind to me Elliott Twitter is very kind to me yesterday. When I put that tweet. I mean, people had already founded told a lot of people already, but for everyone who tweeted back at me direct message me texted me emailed a blanket. Thank you L. We'll try to get back to as many people as I can it's tough as you can imagine. But I will thank you to everyone. And a lot of the tweets that I got Elliott which were really profound outside of people that we know in the industry sort of revolved around. I don't know you. But I've spent a lot of time with you in my years. And so I feel like I do. So thank you to anyone who and everyone who sent feelings like that. It was a tough and beautiful day on Tuesday. I don't know if you've ever been present when someone passed or transition or however, you feel about what death is. But I was grateful and fortunate that it happened on Tuesday not Wednesday because I would have been in Winnipeg with you guys, and I would have felt awful not being there. But I was able to be there with my wife, and my father and his final few hours holding his hand as he passed at Merrick was eighty six years old. He was a great father married to my mum until I was sixteen years old nineteen Eighty-six you pass brain cancer. We talked about previous you on the podcast and of disgust. Elsewhere was a wonderful like he filled our house with joy as a parent. You can one of the best thing you can give your child is opportunity outside of direction and guidance and learning how to be a young man and. I father help provide that and my love of hockey comes from him. I can still remember all the stories. He would tell me we'd watch hockey on Saturday night and ever mid week games be allowed to stay up for two periods. And then it was off to bed and dad would do is, you know, mum would say, okay. He's watched two periods school night. Go to bed and dad would do is help COPA Jeff to bed and walk down the hallway take a tiny little radio and put it under my pillow and be able to listen to the third period. He always said don't tell mom, I think mom, probably knew which is trying to be a mom and say go to bed periods, and you have school tomorrow. But that always remember. Jeff wants to know what happened by the end of the night. So thank you for thought thirty one. And thanks everyone at this company who's been through this with me and my dad now for five years dad moved in with us five years ago, and we've taken care of him ever since and our relationship relationship with them change from father son to father son slash caregiver and provider as we took care of his day to day affairs as his health worsened physically and in towards the end, mentally as well. And from every step of the way, whether it's got more rob Korte previous Mitch Kerzner to add hall every but no one's flinched. Whenever said, hey, I need a couple of days or dad's going in for the surgery. No one ever flinched Elliott of one who's always been first class, and I'm really grateful and thankful that I work at a company that has afforded me the luxury of being able to be with my family and be with my father specifically when he needed it. So thank you. Will move on. I know that you don't want to talk too, much more. But the one thing I do want to say is that I've learned over the years that people can surprise you. And I'm not surprised in the least bid that your social media interaction. After your announcement of what happened publicly on Tuesday was positive as it was for as much as sometimes we talk about. How Twitter can be garbage. It has a way of rising to the occasion in moments where you don't expect it, and I remember when I went through my lowest professional moment in Rio. Twitter was great to me. So I'm not surprised that is the way it went. And I'm not surprised at all that your listenership which things very highly of you would react in that way. And just you know, everybody wishes you the best that you and your family do well. And remember the great times. Yeah. And let's start the thirty one thoughts. Elliot. That's perfect. Welcome to thirty thoughts. The podcast brought to you by the all new two thousand eighteen GMC Sierra Tonelli. Okay. From the podcast this week, special guest rhino Riley of the Saint Louis blues. We Elliott night reported this last Thursday was Elliott was Friday or last Friday. CBC studio. So you'll hear that a little bit. But I recently returned from Winnipeg where there was a fine hockey game was a fine broadcast. Randy Bachman was fine as well. And the sign was standing as well Elliott's. So let's talk about this second. You know, we were doing we're going to do like in the land or update because people aren't sick enough of that as it is and start going to it. And all of a sudden, I see Marie Corbett who's the technical producer and Michael Hayes. Who's the what they call them at eight to sound guy with us on the set, and they get up and they start waving. So I know there's something bad going on behind me. And in that situation, you're train just to talk. So keep going think of anything, but when I stopped, and we went to commercial my phone was just blowing up and people started, sending me the pictures. I just started laughing. There were some people who were like we didn't want to send it seems. We know how you'd react. Of course. You're gonna laugh like you can't help it laughable that like people were howling. Because a it looked like it was so perfectly place. It looks like a thought bubble like that's what I was really. Plus, just the pure craziness of all one of one thing. I like the. It looked as if this wasn't a sign that was brought deliberately at the moment. Spontaneously this person had this idea. Hey, I'm gonna put up a sign behind Elliott. What should it say, boom? This was not planned if you looked at the first degree definitely looked like something that was picked up in the morning, actually, right then. Yeah. But you know, it was funny too. Because one of my buddies losing the states he said it was very college game day. You know, we don't watch a lot of college came day in Canada. But for those of you who watched their the ESPN previous show on Saturday mornings. They always get crazy signing that gets put up, and it all started if you ever want to Google it. There was a guy who put up a sign years ago. It said I'm Asian and then everybody started doing it. Okay. And so one of the big parts of old college game day is what is the wildest sign that gets on the air. And sometimes it goes way too far. But you know, it's part of the mystique of that show. And he was like that in the attitude air with the same. Yes. I was. Yes. But you know, suffice it to say there were people in the National Hockey League who started texting me and laughing and like they were like did some sign put on behind you. I was saying it to them and just you know at the gym this morning. It was all. Jay talk about it was really funny it so and then when Vancouver won their game last night in Vegas. One of the players texted me and said, it was this really behind last night or is this fuller shop, and so it was hilarious that you can't. You know, we we were talking about, you know, having fun now and laughing at stuff like this, you know, as long as it doesn't go so far over the line that nobody can tolerate it got to be willing to laugh at this kind of stuff. And it was a great night in Winnipeg. And I think we were all howling about all I can think about as I'm watching. This is Matt Mars from producer thinking to himself just get to cover role viz role in anything at this point. We have to get Eliot and the sign off the air ASAP, as polls hair out this conversation about the games between you and me once again, thanks, David. I stepping up and filling in for me, he's such a gracious person standing host. So instead, it will be an interview true nor square. How was it L play this? So this morning, I was on a flight home with Eddie hall who is the the executive producer of remote in studio production people who don't know he is. So he basically runs the studio show in the remote show. He's the top hockey producer. And I said to him we should be doing this in every Canadian city Ayman this show, whether it's the Wednesday show or the Saturday show those it'd be one trip to Vancouver one trip to Montreal want to Calgary Edmonton one to Winnipeg one to Ottawa and one downtown in Toronto, we're we're not in the studio somewhere square. This should happen everywhere because it was fun last night for us. And I think the people who went got a real kick out of it. It was different. It was new. I think even the league kind of looked at it as it was something that looked bigger in October. Kober because we were there and NBC was there. And I think that the look of big is big. I think you want something to look big. And that looked big I think that we should be doing that. And you'll remember Jeff at hockey night. We used to do that the whole show was there. Yes, we went on the roads each Canadian city once a year, and eventually we chair Ronna to be at the ring the ring ring and changed it to a studio show. And I understood why we did it working there at the time in one truck that was a very difficult show to do properly because in the truck you're trying to do the game. And you're trying to do the studio parts, it's not easy. You need a lot of resources to be able to do that. But I think in this day and age we should have the show in each Canadian NHL market once a year at least another NBC is bringing their showed to Canada which did. We should consider going to some US markets to Amen with you on that, you know, one of the things that that I always complain about about myself like I do a lot of things for that. Do the one thing that I find were. I let myself down is. I don't spend enough time at the rink like the one thing. Whether it's to the one thing whether you look at elections, or whether you look at what we do in media, if you're not tuned into where people's heads are at you'll fail FaceTime. And that's yeah. Like you need to be in front of people. You talk to people not just people in the industry like halo, the loser. In town. We going to catch up with any Strickland. Hey, there's paying like you need that. But I think you also need to be at the arena to talk to hockey fans, I e need to be right there or because if you're not plugged into what they're all about. Then one day you're going to be that guy shaking his fist at the clouds where you don't understand hockey anymore. And it's passed you by. Simpson old man. Yells, cloud, cloud agree with that totally. I remember there was a commercial. I can't remember what company it was for. But when I was starting out. There was a guy who told me I can't remember who told me this to go watch this commercial find this commercial in watching and it was a commercial of company, and it was the head of sales calling a staff meeting and saying I got a phone call this morning from one of our oldest customers he fired us after twenty years. He fired us. Said he didn't know us anymore. The told us that we don't know you anymore. So I think it was an airline commercial because he handed out airline tickets to every employee and said well, folks. Something's gotta change. Why we're going to set out a little face to face chapel? It's got to be over two hundred cities. And this person told me this for the life of me. I can't remember who it was aren't move said. Sports reporting is no difference. Yup. It's race time. It's getting out there. It's seeing people, you know, it's cultivating relationships and a lot of ways Jeffey at the ring. Sales. I know we're selling you to tell us something interesting. Yeah. I'm with you on that. And the other great lesson from TV commercials is starkist tuna for me. There was one very specific commercial that I've always hung onto as a great media lesson. And I've always to keep this in the back of my mind, like when I get a little too full of myself, and hipster all I always remember the try the tuna star Kist commercial. There's one of them where the big fish, and there's little fish, and the one fish is sitting there reading Shakespeare big fish comes by and says, what do you do is reading? Shakespeare, the why are you doing that? Oh, then people will think I'm smarter because I'm reading Shakespeare and the punchline is at the end of it, the one fish says look Charlie people don't want tuna with great taste. They want tuna the tastes great. That to me is the distinction on care, if you're smart enough, entertain them, tell them something. They didn't know give them some information. Make them laugh or make them think. If you can't make people laugh at least make them think and they will keep coming back. It's don't want tuna with great taste. They went to the taste greats. I was laugh at those Charlie the tuna stories though, because that's how Bill Parcells goes nicknamed tuna. Oh, is it when a player was trying to cheat some drill? And he goes, what do you think? I am Charlie. With you. I totally I totally believe. Okay. Back to the Winnipeg Jets and everything that we saw television yesterday. We saw a really good game. Saw some really good performances. I think if you're Winnipeg Jets fan you mentioned this post game you're more than a little bit disappointed. But nonetheless, we can park that this week and thirty one thoughts. Right a boat Patrick line. What's that deal? Going to look like for the Winnipeg Jets as much we make all oh, what's Matthews deal going to look like how Patrick line here. You know in Winnipeg and Toronto the differences. I think they got a lot of the same things they've got high expectations. They're really good team. They could win the Stanley Cup. I think the interesting thing is that. Winnipeg control that salary cabinet of bit more Toronto's got the most pressing story, and that's Neil Lander. But also because you know, there's so many of us here in the fight for competition is so much and we're in the media capital of Canada. Trump can't escape it. When a kinda can cause a smaller market. I think the biggest thing in and you saw it. If you watch the pre game interview the Kevin chivalry opted with David Bryan. And Doug is the he's the master deflector like throw him the question like he knocks the corn rejects into the thirty fifth roll like Akeem Elijah on. I think pretty clearly Jeff that they're in it to win it this year and everything they do is about winning the Stanley Cup this year, and they'll worry about all the other stuff later. I think the thing about lining is. If you look at his agents agents, Mike who played in the NHL mask, a great mask take a look at his most recent clients, they all signed late July. Well, dry subtle was August Tarasenko was in July first or second week of July first week the seventh and then wrist aligning was the day before the season began in two thousand sixteen so all of them played through their eels sees all of them expired, including into the next year's calendar. One was six days. One was forty seven days that was dry Seidel and one was ninety something days that was wrist aligning on the of the year. So he takes his guys after year three and he bets on them. And we're seeing that Colorado is going through the same thing with Rantanen another client of his and so as Winnipeg. So if these guys do what they're supposed to do these are going to be big numbers. And if they do what they're supposed to do and they are renting, especially from the wimp just point of view. Martin's game last night. And I'm like, many people. I just love Mark. Safely to me even going back to when I watched him. There was one year where he played with the very colts where he almost single handedly beat the London knights like in a in a playoff series. It was spectacular watching safely, but faithfully deal. And I say to myself if Winnipeg is successful is it going to be because Shaif lease deal is to Winnipeg. What Duncan Keith steel was to Chicago? It was that reasonable number for that level of superstar that opened up money for other complimentary pieces. Yes, it's going to work out that way, it's funny. How things happen like you'll remember at the time safely sign in the sixes. Mckinnon signed the sixes Johnny Goudie rose later that year signed in the Sixers there were a bunch of guys science, John Monaghan, and the sixes there were a bunch of guys did that and people some people thought those deals were crazy. And it just shows you how far this goes in his short period of time. And i've. Been in that situation before I've signed a contract in the sixes. The six million dollar man where I've signed a contract, and I'm really happy with it at the time. And then people eclipse me, you know, we only really talk about our contracts lot partially because it says we could be fired if we do, but I think that people always try to say that you are you jealous of that guy because he's a clips to you. And Michael Jordan was a guy who was always underpaid in the NBA until the nineteen vote in nineteen ninety three or four after he came back from tyrant. He made three million dollars a year at a time. When a lot of guys were making a lot more than that. And then they had to pay thirty million. But Jordan never really complained about that because endorsement money was so great and be because apparently one time he said, I signed the deal, and I making good money, and I have always been a believer. If my deal is good, and I'm happy with it. I'm not gonna complain if somebody blows past me because in theory, the idea is that you're only going to boost yourself up the next time you come up. So I hear some people talk about that. Like all he's going to be upset of. He's at six something in the other guys at ten. I mean players do have that though. Yeah. I think in broadcasting we have that too. I've never heard anyone complain about someone getting more money than than I honestly. I have. Oh, yeah. Serious. I have not. Yes. Now mind you I'm still I'm not Elliott Friedman making that long quiet the money in my jeans makes noises I jingle all along the streets. But still like I've never heard anyone say why can't be close by that guy. No. I heard that. I say, yes, I'm proud to say, I don't think I've ever done that. Whether I've signed a deal, good or bad. I've lived with the consequences. Yeah. In most deals, I signed Geoff. There's things I've liked things. I haven't liked now. I know that Toronto's worried vote that and. Winnipeg's worried a vote that, but my feeling is always been if you sign what's really a good deal, and you're happy with it. I mean, what can you do you mentioned ranson and that Colorado team has been a freak and fun to watch. And maybe lost in the entire conversation of who's the best player in the NHL. We don't talk about Nathan MacKinnon. We were having this conversation in Winnipeg the other night where the top players in the league, how long conversations Nathan MacKinnon it takes awhile. But it shouldn't know, and it shouldn't. And my point was he might be top five. You know, what he looks like right now as making this point the other day on on hockey central? He looks and you see this every now and then with a player and sometimes it lasts a long time. Sometimes only lasts for twenty games. But right now, it looks to me like the game too easy for Nathan MacKinnon. You know when Crosby I hit it when mcdavid I hit it. You know, it just the game. Just looks too simple for them. Nathan MacKinnon every time. I watch cholera and parts of last year was the same way the game looks too easy for Nathan MacKinnon right now. That's always looked. It's are okay. Where is this guy? How great is. He how bigger than. The sport on the ice is he when it looks too simple. And I find that when I watched McKinnon now, I'm thinking to myself, whatever he wants to do he's going to do it. Like, there's going to be a complication whatever is in his mind that he wants to do. Nathan MacKinnon is going to do it right now. He's a top five gel in my eyes. And you know, last Saturday they played an afternoon game in Philly, and he came in for that winning goal and was Pickard. I think and he knew that McCain was going hyg love and still couldn't do anything about it. I'm with you. I think this guy is a top five player in the NHL right now. He's right there with the likes of Crosby mcdavid Matthews McKinnon. He's right. There is right there with them. And he deserves to be mentioned in the same breath best line in the NHL so far who can argue with that. Although I I got to tell you that Boston line still the other night with Marshon you reach I teach. Yeah. Pretty good. I mean that Boston line is is really good. It's what I love about. This is you know for the longest time now in the salary cap fair. All we've been talking about is does new can't afford to have a line. And now more teams than ever are loading up on a line, which you know, hint sat or winks out the philosophical question is this a strong link or weakling game is aligned defined by the week weakest player or the strongest player the combination. It seemed as if I won't say, you know, what this is strong link game. It is now strong link game world it has to be your line Crosby. I mean, you know, how many guys they're good everybody in this league is good like Jit cancels a good player. But he's got Crosby with them. And he's good enough to elevate with Crosby. And Crosby elevates him to me is is a free because he's not a burner. Like he's not like that kinda skater doesn't have the hardest shot by any stretch the imagination the game. He just hockey player. Jake say he looks like he's in NHL player who's just smarter than. Everybody else. But there's not like one thing in his skillset other than his brain that I look at it and say, yeah, Jake Gansel has, you know, this type of wheel are this type of show. That's he just smart. Good smart hockey player car-sharing same deal. He was smart enough to ask. Okay. I get a chance to play with Sidney Crosby. What do I need to do? So I can stand in line with Sidney Crosby. And eventually it made him enough money that they had to move them as much as anything else. But first of all I always say good for him because the guy beat the odds and Secondly in shows it is strongly game. But the guys who were quote, unquote, the weaklings. They're going to be smart enough to say, what does this guy need me to do? So I can stay here. That's the thing about Crosby linemates that I've always been fascinated by because if he could play with Sidney Crosby, and you've talked to plenty more players that have played with Crosby. So curious about your perspective or insight on this one? If you play with Sidney Crosby, you better be ready to play with the guy who plays in his backhand, more than anybody in the game. Like, nobody plays. As I and slams as a winger you so I'm only going to get the puck when he's on his forehand. Generally. This guy makes passes on his backhand is hard. As he does on. His forehand backhand, more than anybody. Anybody guys have great backhands? But no one plays on their back end more than Sidney Crosby. Like you have to be thinking like that. When you're watching Crosby with the puck like you can't take your brain off the game. When he's got his puck on the backhand because you could be getting it. Yeah. I remember Gary Roberts Mark Recchi when they played with him when he was first starting out. They talked about that about how weird it was. Really? Yeah. You know, and they talked about stick on the ice all the time. And I would say to them like guys when when I was seven years old playing my terrible, atom hockey. All the time on the ice. And they said, no, no, it's not like that. Because you're used to maybe fighting for position or going somewhere else when the guys on his backhand or a guy can't make their ninety nine point nine percent. Guys can't make that pass. But it's no you better have your stick down because he can do both. And I do think that's true. The thing. I think is so impressive Crosby in Pittsburgh. They used to write and say look at all these guys he played wing with never got him a wing, and what it really turned out to be was you almost didn't need to you had to find people who were smart enough to understand. And we're eagles enough to understand. This is what I gotta do to play with him. And the there's one player right now. I don't wanna say his name because this come out worse than I mean, it to be he's a talented player who scores, but he's not a driver on his line. And I said the other night, I wouldn't give. That guy a big deal. Even though he's probably going to get one because he's more of use the word passenger instead of driver, and I don't believe there's players passenger. But I don't believe he's a driver. And I think now in this day and age you've got understand who your drivers are. And who your passengers are or your side? What you call them your complimentary pieces are and you gotta know who award and who is being rewarded because they're being that great player. And I think that's where some of the cat mistakes get made. Although I wanna see everybody get paid because I like to see people get rich. All right. Does that include colleagues? Anyone is up. I always do chest protectors. So I had a really interesting call from goalie on Tuesday when I was in Winnipeg because I heard Chris Johnston talking to Connor Hello Bach in Chris mentioned it in the pre-game Connor hell buck is one of the guys that is really vocal even privately about the protectors and we've seen guys come out about Brian Elliott. Brayden hold Broschi we've hired sparks Garrett. Sparks we've had some other guys, you know, John Gibson hasn't said much Kelly Rudy on the show last shell shocked right now. From full talk about him in a few minutes. But you know, Kelly really on the show last Saturday talked about Craig Anderson, actually like the newer equipment because he felt he could move better. But I think what's really interesting is that this goal. He told me that he declined to talk when approached by a reporter. And it got I don't even think the reporter wrote about it. But he said got out that I didn't say anything, and he had guys texting him all over him saying, you know, the goalies other goal is saying you have to talk about this. You're a more senior guy, you have respect you're letting us down by not talking about this. And his response was really like, you know, I gotta worry about stopping the puck. There's some guys in there that are really unhappy with each other. They're unhappy with the guys who were at the front of this. There's guys who felt they weren't cheaters who are like, you know, get lost to the people. They felt were cheaters if he didn't cheat in the first place, you wouldn't have this problem there. Other guys and a lot of them. Don't play goal who say the goalies have been more proactive instead of dragging this out. They wouldn't have this problem. There are people who blame the equipment managers because they say, and I'm not gonna mention names because I haven't a chance to research it. But there are some that were ahead of the curve. Yeah. And there were some that really did a bad job. And so some of those goals have been they feel been screwed over by their companies had to switch and apparently they're switching equipment and wearing the non licensed equipment or considering it. But the thing that hold you said that stood out is K. We're all talking basically about bumps and bruises. What happens if someone like break, something wait a second pause on that? I think that's the tipping point for this. Well that everybody's fine with. Oh. Yeah. Too, bad goalies. I'd hurts when the kids. Yeah. Well, it's supposed to hurt. It's a parking. We're firing hard. That's all great. We can stick the goaltenders. What happens when someone gets injured braiding hold on one? And then what does that general manager say what does? Coach say, what does that owner say exactly you remember, how anger the islanders got when John Vars got hurt in Sochi? Yeah. The you don't think that some owner team's gonna be bananas. When someone says, oh, this this equipment is caused the injury. The leading the players all signed up on this. It's not like this was rammed down anyone's throat without approval. But then the goalies have enough political backing they could advocate for themselves. Well, they could because for years they held it up. Right. As I look back over the blog after published today party was like did I write this enough about how many different factions? There are in this group. Like, there's some that are really angry there some of this is our own fault. There's some that are like I didn't cheat. Those guys did that's their problem. This doesn't bother me as much. There's some say, it's not my fault. My quit managers behind the league is like, hey, we got approval from this from from you guys. Eventually we are going to get an injury here and someone's going to say it's going to be because of this. And then and it was it was saying to me you're gonna have no choice. But to say, this is now a workplace safety issue. And what are we going to do about it? In one of the issues with it too. Now that everybody can shoot the puck. And it's been that way since the introduction of the compass stick how much do you want your goaltenders to be scared? I keep thinking about this once upon a time, you know, goaltenders were, you know, different personalities. Oh, it's a crazy goaltender you can tell who's the goalie on the team because he's nuts probably alcoholic. And then, you know, you talk to all those guys and they're like, yeah. You know that I was scared to play, but there were six jobs in the NHL in sixteen universe. If I wanted to hang onto it. I had to keep getting back in there. But I was scared when curves sticks were thing and hall end Makita were framing shots Bathgate up around my eyeballs up around my ears. It was a terrifying position and guys were scared and guys self Medicated. And all these things we now understand horrible behavior, but all was predicated on goals scared of the park. The one of the question we ask ourselves as it relates to acquit -ment is how comfortable should goaltenders be with the puck hitting them. No one saying that it should tickle. But should it. Hurt shouldn't hurt. When a goalie gets hit by the puck. That's a great question. I wonder if the question is how often should hurt. I think should have heard it all well. There's always the chance you could get caught somewhere where there's a weakness or something. We know the phrase he caught him in just the right? Yeah. Yeah. Like, I think there's that. I'm going to take you back to a conversation with Dave ellett. So I was working a leaf game when I was still on the ringside, and I went up to the hot stove after you know, that's the post-game routine. You go for a glass of wine or something Dave ellett was there. And he said he thinks a lot of hawkish problems would be fixed, especially the concussion problem. If players wore the same equipment that we did when we played in the eighties because right now, he said the problem is they're fearless. Can't get hurt. I guess the long answer your question. Jeff is I do any helmet. Because he's still wear a helmet. He was talking about was the and has always been now the minute. You put helmets on all the guys can take liberties with. I think it's more shoulder argument. I think it's more of the shoulder pads. And if you hit someone you're going to get hurt too. It's a rugby argument that or you don't have as much protection to to run into a wall or charge full speed someone, and I do think that's legitimate. You could make an argument that being fearless is bad for the game. You could make that argument. It's bad for the health of the players being fearless. Fearless is bad for the hell goaltenders. I'm not. It's a very good question. Are they going to have to change the stick technology? I don't know genie's out of that bottle. That's going back. But the thing is we didn't we think that they'd never go back on some of these acquit and pads, and they did I don't want to hurt and we both know. If that happens is going to be a fiasco. Everybody. Everybody's going to come out and say, I told you so this was going to happen. It's going to be Gasco while you just hope that it doesn't happen at all. Of course. Nobody wants imagine. What will happen? What the fallout is. If this happens in the playoffs. Yeah. To a starting goaltender anacostia a team a series. Then we saw this coming mile away. Didn't we? Yes, talked about this thing. Ryan Miller may have been one of the most vocal about he always has been. Yes. Measure make them on KOA measures it so. I I don't know where the stories are. I mean, I think you're being pretty broad. Honestly, I know we have proportional system. I have a longer leg needed hip Nita shin. Life head hip is your pants length. I got to extra inches there. And I take it don't go extra with because legal ipads are ten inches. Everybody else's. I don't know. I don't know. My suck goes through league is measured. The same. Exactly. This is coming. You wanna shrink? That's cool. Those six of the same. Everyone's fire on the puck those true. But I do think Jeff one of the things I believe is that I believe there's a split between the guys with other guys were cheating and the guys who didn't. Interesting. Okay. Turn the page come unto Gibson just quickly to gives him over here. Poor John Gibson as the Anaheim ducks continue to get caved in on the shots on goal. John gibson. They're making the case much like he did last year, by the way for the trophy. Well, mixed the playoffs, and it's a tall order considering the way they're going. He's going to be the MVP. It's the mazing performance. And I'm making that prediction right now. Because you know, I looked this Anaheim getting shot some like thirty seven to twenty three fourteen bucks a night. It's about four eggs actually, thirty twenty four now, but it's fourteen tonight. So I looked this up on the dot com website like who's given up shots like this and up in their area. There's three New York. Rangers teams from the sixties. There's them for Gump and. And there's the seventy four seventy five Washington Capitals free expansions eight sixty seven and five. Capitals. And they were outshot like that too was like thirty eight to twenty three. So I think around fourteen game and Washington was like fifteen point two game or something like that. I don't know the number right in front of me now, but Anaheim is next to that differential. So Washington has the worst differential Anaheim is a little less than that right now. Here's what I can't figure it about it though. The defense is fine. Like, this is Lynn homes injured menteur is injured and Fowler's playing hurt. Everybody's fine on that blue light just not fast. And they're learning to play a new way the obvious question is why you know, I do get coach. No, no, I don't I don't think this is necessarily Randy Carlyle thing. I don't believe that. I think that this is Bob Murray said the last year that we are going to change the way we play regardless of personnel. We have to change and I forty shots. But sometimes you make a change when you're not built to make that change. And that may be the case with them that they are not fast enough to make the change. But organizationally they decided they are doing it come hell or high water. And you know, what I get that? If you are really going to commit to something that you believe is right. You do it and hope this short term pain. You know, I love watching Anaheim gate. Well, there's a lot of players on Anaheim. What I love. About watching Anaheim games right now and saying this now, maybe means that they won't do it. And I'll jinx it. But I'm waiting for them to take the shot clock off the bug. On the games. Oh my goodness. Anaheim has the shot clock bug. They have it on their listed. I'm just waiting for someone in hockey ops there to talk to someone the TV production crew to say, hey, you know, get the shots on goal score. You know, I would be surprised story. It's a story everywhere. I would be surprised in disappointed. I think that's a good broadcast. So do I like, I think Anaheim got a really good broadcast. I think Brian Hayward in particular is a pretty honest guy. John. Well, I mean. Yeah. But the crew it's a great crew like they are really good guys. But Hayward would be the guy would sort of be in the position to talk about that. Because he's doing the broadcast. And I think that he's really honest about we eat calls a game there. It's not a home or call. It's an honest call and I would be surprised if they would do. Anyway, I'll tell you to Bob Murray's pretty honest team to talk a lot about. Dearly Frank the gray lines Eric Stevens about me. Like, oh, that's Elliott. Just throwing. Doesn't talk a lot he likes to be in witness protection. But when he does I know I'm getting the truth is he sees it, regardless of if it's positive for his team or not staying I respect that. Let's stick in California. Here have a thought or two about the Los Angeles Kings who f-. Yeah. I. It's tough. Like they lost that game to buffalo. Rob leg went into the room. I texted him that night when I heard that he was in the room. And I just said look, I I know it's the sacrosanct dressing room. Was there anything else you wanna say vote? It said not really appreciate you at least responding. And the haven't been good sense. Be surprised though is the harsh. But I think fair question it's an old team to begin with. Another old guy in Cova, try. We talked about this a couple of weeks ago in the pod, but still disappointed some of their younger guys when they were winning Stanley Cups. You know looked like it was gonna be Tyler to Foley's team someday. You were hoping is you know, guys like Jeff Carter and co Petar 'em got older and the the the Foley's in the Pearsons would be taking over. And now, you're kinda worried that's not gonna happen. I think that's what they're most concerned about but still guilty of always bringing in that extra older guy. Well, one of the one are a Gabric or Fano of like now Cova char up there still that team that hey, we're still we're gonna bring in the guy that might still be surfing on the ref. Well, I think what it says you Jeff is going to be looking internally most people look at their draft. And I go back, and I look at these this that this team had good drafts. But for some reason from where they're getting drafted to how they're getting there. It's not working out. And it's not. Staying and that's the biggest question that you have to ask. But I've heard that they've kind of kicked around the trade market, but they don't like what's out there. And you know, when you don't like what's out there, basically got your players if I'm not making a coaching change. It's very clear the rumbling does not wanna make a coaching change you need those guys to be better. We'll break. Quick pause back with Ryan O'Reilly of the Saint Louis blues on thirty one. GMC? Sierra Denali set a higher standard in a full-size pickup for purposeful technology and performance features. Like apple carplay keeps you connected to what matters most and an available four hundred twenty horsepower six point two liter engine gives you the power to take on any challenge lead the way like a pro with the GMC Sierra, Denali GMC. We are professional grade. Slowdown. Circle. Rhino riling spinning Riley in the right corner. Right. Legal intuitive office skate there but player penalty has come into close a road gets to on the wall. Good. Three twenty three to play the second. Terry. I. Okay, Elliott Friedman. This is going to be great being joined now by Ryan Reilly of the Saint Louis blues. A former second round draft pick of the Colorado Avalanche. Who did one of the more unique things you can do in this game get draft in the second round. And then make your team in the very next training camp between Berge Ron did it so did rhino rally. He joins us. Now. We're going to start right? First of all, thanks for joining us. We're gonna start with the hard hitting stuff. If you're watching this on YouTube listening to this while you're running or doing anything else. You can maybe hit the fifteen second. Mark here as Jeff describes the stick. Okay. So this is one of your sticks. And to me, it's the most unique thick in the entire NHL. It's flat is a little bit of a tilt in it. But right at the end, you've got this hook right on the end of it rhino Riley. Please explain this dick so this. It's obviously a weird stick and guys. Always give me a lot of flack about it. Came about this curve without the curve toll. And it it was kind of a modified kind Roenick what Ron accused and modified it a bit. But it was just a long blade, and you know, I kind of do everything off the heel my blade. So I kind of wanted something where I didn't have to roll my wrist firework kind of more tilt it, and I can pull the puck into the into my he'll and make plays from there. And I just kinda messed with at once, and I love this gave me more control the park. I find one handed stuff, you know, I can get it in that area. And then just pull it right into it. So it just kind of some I just tried and just trying to be creative. And then end up loving it warrior does this for you now. But initially did you come up with this? I just kind of I don't know how I got the idea I was messing around. And it's pretty cool. They send you like it's like a plastic played. And then you kind of the heat gun for five seconds he'd up, and then it can move it any way you want, and then it settles and you send it in. And then they make the stick of that. So I was just kind of. Janet in the door. And then it's like, okay here you go. But there's something some I just kind of thought it'd be cool to try and my kids are fascinated by we have this one lying around the house is a great conversation started when hockey fans come over as well. They always say the same thing. How did he do that? And how can we do that has anybody else because hockey players like the fiddle around with stuff has anyone else ever grabbed your stick and said I want to try this? Yeah. A lot of guys a lot of guys try it, and they don't end up liking it, obviously. But I know it's weird. I've kinda see guys that kinda shoot more off the middle or toll their blade. It's weird. Because the puck doesn't come off. You know, it's going to be a knuckle are it's tough to kind of get an area. So you know, I've seen guys that have liked it. And you can kind of see that they're more he'll players they do things off the heel. So it's different for sure. And there's not me guys else that have liked it. As anyway, tried it in a game that you know of. Not that I know of. No, no because I have a friend a few years ago we didn't Wednesday in hockey game buffalo at Montreal. And we showed the stick on the air. Because as Jeff mentioned every game you play. I think we show the stick. And a buddy of mine said I want try it, and he did in the actually liked it. And he tried to couple of his barely games. And he said the funniest thing happened was people were laughing at him at the beginning. But they saw kind of the idea and he's been dirty like he is one of those guys who lake will slash or spear something like that. And he's player on the team came up to him and said when you spare me with that stick it doesn't hurt as much because I don't get with the end of the blade. So the opponent's kind of liked it a little bit better. It's a fascinating I'm gonna spend too much time on it. But this help withdraws we're gonna get the face off here in a second. But does that help he with face off? And if so how if I'm reaching for puck. Yeah. I do most of the stuff, you know, all my face offs are usually on my back end and being kind of strong and nice sticks. It's a really stiff stick which. I've kinda I always I've always had my brothers hand-me-downs growing up. I like my clubs a little bigger and my stick I used his stick. So they're always stiffer sev- always liked that stiff feel and that's been a big vantage for face offs. And a lot of times I get into stick battle with them. Because when you collide with the other stick, there's Benz more than mine does and then get on that second kind of swipe, so yeah, you know, for the toll on that. It doesn't affect it a lot unless it of the puck laying there and have to pull it somewhere pull it back. But most of it's on my back in was for what's your dad's name again, Bryan, cave, Brian? So one of the. Most interested me about Iran is that you and your father have been unafraid to try different things and search different things through life like Jeff. There was no thing. I told a player last year that was received better that when I told Ryan about the existence of vegan ice cream, very happy to hear that stuff. Existed come over to the dark side yet right now. No. But you've you've flirted with this kind of stuff of veganism and stuff like that. You know, I'm just wondering in hockey, which is a sport, which is sort of making the transition. You know, just you and your dad your process, I'm willing to try different things. What some of things have worked at if you met a lot of resistance. I know in Colorado at times, they were not comfortable with some of the things that you guys tried. So I was wondering how you kind of gone through that. Well, first off with the diet. Like, I you know, that was kind of something I think my family kind of at the same time. I kind of I'm slowly transitioning. I think you know, I'll be vegan eventually here. But right now just vegetarian and that was just something kind of read a book on it. It's called eat to live. And and then, you know, soft, documentaries and just kind of wanted to get away from that. And you know, I feel it's it's helped you know, I lost. When I made the transition. I got a lot lighter lost. Like ten pounds and the I felt quicker. I felt a recovered quicker. I didn't feel as you know, felt more consistent wasn't as up and down. And you know, I said keep growing slowly starting to cut out different things and get it to where I want to be. But yeah, that kind of moves that was like a family thing that we've kind of tried and my sister's vegetarian reminder sisters vegan, both my parents vegetarian. My brother, I think he pretty much vegetarian. Maybe it's a bit of fish at times. But it's kinda like a family thing. That's kind of all did. But you know, with my dad, he's always been always looked at different ways. Even now when I come on the summer and train with them. It's always finding new ways to find uncomfortable scenarios to train one of those things. I remember article a couple of a couple of years ago about your father while you're working out while you're lifting or whatever it is doing Alaska mouth questions, try to get your brain working and process. Messing while you doing something physical that true. Yeah. He haven't done it recently. But there were times think growing up, you know, we'd be training and walking on a balance beam and say, he's throwing golf balls out. You catch them in your your walkington? You're throwing throwing them into another bucket. So your your folks on being in your core doing something stinks breathing? And then he's throws in these kind of questions where it just another thing if the process kind of get into that zone like in a game skate down the wing, you know, you're you're aware someone's going to net, but what's going on behind that? You know, be aware. See this guy moving here. Also, be aware of what's going on the other side here of guy coming in kind of developing an awareness to all those situations go through so what was this summer? Like, why did you try this summer that was new this summer? It's good. We still do a lot. You know, I think as I start to get older, and, you know, have a son. Now, there's not as much time that it's he's got really specific. And it's doing high intensity work for a short period of time during high of just go there and able to turn myself on do the exercise again, whether it's yoga balance beamer juggling golf ball on on a stick on the balance beam different things like that. But being super intense for ten fifty minutes to it and done. And then that's it for that thing. So it's all there. You don't have as much time as used to wear it could just kind of lets, you know, we got the day, let's mess around. Now. It's sort of things that are ordinance. Well, so it's is developing that, okay? It's time to turn it on right now. A shift almost rain interesting. Okay. Then in outside of hockey hockey as enough pursuit out of this answer. If you could only do one athletic thing for the rest of your life, a sport experts at whatever it is excluding hockey. What would it be for you aliens arrive? Okay. Everyone can pick one thing. They're allowed to do. What's your choice? Outside of hockey. Running. I think. I've always liked to run. I think I was good cross country runner. You know, my mom. She was you know, amazing runner as well. That. You know, I find something I love that. You don't hear a lot as much in hockey like not people going for long runs like it's different. But I've always loved the mental grind of run of how you doing long distance running maintaining a certain pace. And I feel just mentally just it clears me. And I feel like you know, when things are going well in hockey, I try to have a good long run. And I feel kinda just resets me. So it's it's something I've always did for training. But I love just of that pushing constantly maintain that pace that height just keep grinding through it. So exactly I'm curious. Like is there a game that you remember where you weren't happy with the way the team played her you weren't happy with you played. And you said the next day. I'm going running I need to just run to get this off my head. Yeah. Last year. There was last year in buffalo. I remember. Gosh, Kim remember who were playing, but I remember I had plenty of chances to win the game and it can wanted to overtime. And again, how to chance missed it. Remember after the game. I was just past like I just so upset and it was an afternoon game. And I get home. I just like I was just in my head so much. And I was like, you know, I gotta do something. Like, I I have to do something. I remember beautiful park in buffalo. It's called Delaware park by live close to ice member. I went for a run, and it was just something that had helped clear myself. I just had to do something to. It's almost kind of like punish myself got pushed and be like that wasn't good enough in and kind of help reset myself. And another thing bring back my dad that he always said always come back to to the work Trustor work and try to work through it and get clear. So it's something that I always try to do. So how long would that run take? And that was. That night after the afternoon game. You went that night. It's it's not a very big. It's probably two miles around around it by member. And there's another like little area went to. But it was probably like three and a half mile runs a something that after game, and it wasn't very quick because after a game, but I just never pushing through it. I remember it was it was cold out too. Was like bundled up and everything but just kind of running kind of beat myself up. That's interesting whenever I know that I've had a bad show that when I get home away has my running shoes Angeles hand them to me 'cause you know, I'll be upset or too much stress. Like, my wife will I wake up in the morning show us how like my running shoes beside the beds, like, you know, what I know you need this for your head right now. Just go I want to get the hockey, and we talked a little bit about face off the top Ryan Ryan Riley playing with the tres playing against the kitchen Rangers, you know, where I'm going with this rhino rally offense. Zone about take the face off pulls away from the dot starts, directing traffic. I want this guy to go over here. And what you big the big show of it. You're putting people in very specific positions. Win the drawback when the drawback so the Rangers comedy, okay? Riley wants to put hero rally wanna put it there. The puck drops. He tap it through the other center, and you score after everybody bites on all rallies positioning people because that's where he wants to get the puck too is faceoffs more physical or face off more mental. And what did you remember that face off, by the way? Yeah. I I remember the Druk Steve spot was coaching them. And I remember I had the guy behind me on a previous draw one back good scoring chance. And I remember them from the bench going to hear them kind of on as going to this. Next job kinda said Oko behind me, and there I can hear them kind of scrambling. Switch over there kind of that kind of thing. And I told my winger might go back door here off this like I'm gonna I'm gonna walk. Come to you. And I just see like they're panicking trying to figure out what's going to happen. And then, you know, sound like I'm going right behind me and just tapped it through and then went right back door for tap. And I'm going by the vents in says spotters livid was hilarious. But. It was funny. We are taping. This interview about a week before it's going to air, but I will buy you a VAT of vegan ice cream of you. Try it against the Toronto Maple Leafs hockey. That's junior. It's it's tough. You know, can you talk about you know, if it's fiscal mental like there's so many things at this level of come into because there's never an easy draw. And let's us. Just like there's never an easy game in this league. Everyone's so good now and the quality of guys and for me, it's it is mental. And you know, I think I'm lucky because I know I'm gonna take a lot of draws during a game that it's not. Oh god. Like, I need to try to you know, go set. I want him to win the draw the straws matters by lose it. So while there's other things to do. But if you went, and I take a lot like I find a rhythm. And then I'm confident I'm just trusting myself and never lose it on purpose as an investment preposition. You know, I'm getting somebody gets left does this occasionally. Yeah, I've seen it done before. I've never really tried to. I like. I like always trying to bring it back and trying to get something to the net. Yeah. I've always tried to try to pull him back. What is it about you and face off always been that way? Like most kids grow up. I wanna be a big goal score ever since. I think I'll watch you play junior Canadians once in your away draft year. But you know, the thing on Riley was always this guy wins draws breaking sticks. Would that come from? You know, I was always take a lot of pride in my draws. But it's not like, you know, it's not something my game that you know, I think about like I don't prepare for a game a folks on my draws and I think that's kinda just developed them just confident in them. But you know, there's so much else in a game that I need to focus on and do. But I love the face off. Because it's you know, it's a tool. It's a nice, you know, start to shift where it's like, okay. Like, I got to be on here. Like, I got a win the straw that. Nice Kenna gear up for you know, you can create something off it. So it's always been something taking pride in worked on. I guess especially when I was young and always with my older brother Cao, always going up against him and seeing him take draws and going against them. And it's always come something. That's helped me development who's toughest twenty NHL. Oh. Ever guys different. I think Persia on I think going up against him. Like, I know you just know it's going to be a tough night for sure. I want to ask you one of the things we often talk about is other ever going to be more offer sheets. You're a guy that did one. I'm just curious when you're going through that process is it nerve wracking. Are you ever worried about standing out any repercussions? Like, not a lot of guys do it. What was it like for you that whole situation was definitely interesting. I feel like the amount of media now social media. There's so much more of it kind of at the time. This was I don't maybe six years ago. It was coming up on six thousand. Yeah. Yeah. Social media is that it's like like it is now I think it's obviously last few years it's just like the amount of stuff that comes out. So like, I wasn't on it like I didn't see much at all like, you know, especially going through situations. Like, I didn't I didn't have the TV on like I wasn't watching the game. So I didn't really hear kind of what was being said. And what people are talking about just kind of trust in my age. Agent who always taken care of me. And and done amazing for me. I just I trusted him in this process and luck for me it worked out, and you know, it'd be interesting to see what will happen if there will be more like. It's boss. Boy, did you ever feel like any repercussion from it or anything like that? A little bit. I think when I got back. It was kinda weird. I think the guys if few guys on the team or a little upset about and I completely understand. You know, that was a tough thing to deal with kits. You know, you're you know, my buddies guys I played with the last few years airplane without me. I'm not there. I'm not skating them. Not like, it's it was a weird situation this offer sheet happens, and you know, possibly going under team and signed back. It's just you know, I think guys got over it. You know, I don't think they held onto it, you know, came back to work and got along fine with them. But you just tell like, it bother them about is that because you think in their mind, you try to leave. Yeah. Just you know 'cause I held out and miss training camp in them working in their battling and trying to win. And I like to think you know, I could have helped them win. Yeah. I think you wanna win if pieces that they're going to be upset about it. So I understand where guys felt bad or it was never anything bad. But you just kind of cell. There's a little tension there that some guys didn't like it because it's a gun was money and such. So it was tough unique situation for back was sacked coach there at that point. It was a Patrick no Saccone that Zakho. What was it like playing under Patrick wall? Major winger for while the knee Shane, yeah. Yeah. We that. First year was outstanding. I think came in fresh look I played the wing that year. It was good. We we had a great team. You know, he's he was superintendent, you know, one of the most passionate coaches at UC and shows it to and you know. Oh, man. The defenses are like this Sila junior hockey here. Yeah. It was it was listening. He'll be happy to call them, junior hockey. Do that in junior hockey more this more so than the NFL it was tough? If you got beat. Hell froze over for a bit there when when he got beat. But November like we we had a good team guys played it was fun. And we were scoring goals which is excite high hockey like, you know, guys were everyone was scorn assists, product setting hockey to watch and to play. It was good. I don't know Saint Louis haven't spent a ton of time there. But a lot of guys will say it's an underrated city players go there, they stay there. They they don't leave. They say the only bad thing about Saint Louis is it's oppressively hot in the summer. But other than that like great place to play. What have you learned about Saint Louis? I love it. And kind of just what you're saying. Like, you know, you don't see areas when you go when you come on the road, you kinda you're the hotel the rink and restaurants kind of around that area. Once I got there and looking at places and some of the neighborhoods communities like it was just beautiful and getting settled in now, they're love it per this a lot less snow than buffalo in in here. So that'll be that'll be nice. But. It's great. They the people there. They're very nice. You know, the other blues, and you know, they'll never come. It's not they come up to you and are bugging all the time. They just leaving somewhere and somebody I call we're really excited to have you. It's nice. It's like, you know, they're really really nice people about that. And you can see why guys stay there for sure. Hockey program as well. Guys, drafted two years ago. And I think you in the win. This the wrong time. But I mean once I remember Cam Johnson from Saint Louis to to the Gulf storm and Saint Louis making hockey players in Saint Louis, and then each and every year there's more players on that pipeline from Saint Louis right into the rest of the OH L seem every year by the draft. Whether it's going into junior hockey, it's turned into a hockey factory there of kids. Yeah. You can see there's there's surprising. There's tons of rinks there, which I was kind of surprised about. But yeah, they're hockey program has held dad's Elliott points day. Yeah. That's nice. Like a lot of them end up. You know, their kids are there. Some ended up coaching the kids, and then you have these great hockey minds that are in these programs, and it just develops. It's pretty cool to see the way it's worked out over the team's been your last one. Jeff I do. It's the hard hitting one. Okay. So Craig mctavish was the last player to go helmet. Lewis in the NHL will Ryan Reilly be the Craig mctavish visors. I don't know. I hope so I. That'd be a pop it on international. Right. Yeah. I hate it. I hate put it on it. Just like I can't I sweat a lot through my face and just anytime water gets on there. Just hate when affect my vision. Like a Kansas. Constantly on have at your wiping it down. And just you find you're not a safe when you have one on. I would imagine like when you're an level like playing hockey dangerous board have a few drops in front of the. It's gotta feel not seeing everything the way I want it. No, definitely. It's I just feel clear. Yeah. Think the vision is interrupted. And so obviously, it's safer and to have that. But also it is like, you know, playing defense in this league the amount of shots come to the net. And like, I I don't know how d- don't wear it like where them, and I think there's very few that don't but. Yeah, it's something it is more dangerous. You have to be aware of it. And hopefully, nothing happens. Good. Then we're good kept them long enough for right? Thanks. Thank veteran. There was one time where it was Brian Speer interviewed Thurman Thomas for show used to do for the fan and wanted to do the interview with his shirt off. We're going to put the live and held it for the whole interview. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Are they go? Rhino rally. Wonderful interview kind tell you something about myself and rhino Riley, one of the first dates I went on with my then girlfriend now wife involve taking a look at me. Where's this going? So when we first met and we've been on a couple dates mainly to go, see David Dini's band sort of all over Toronto because we're big fans of Dave and Rio statics, but the first hockey date we went on we went to see the Erie otters with Ryan rally take on the Gulf storm. And she's like, I think it was maybe the first junior hockey game. She'd gone to say, why do you wanna go see the Erie otters, I said, I really like Ryan O'Reilly. And so they've been a couple of junior hockey players that are really really enjoyed cordy Hodgson's and other one but rhino rally was my guy. And so now kind of in the back of my mind, whenever I think of rhino Riley. I think my first hockey date with my wife, did you when you were on the tour with him in the studio. Did you tell them that did not? So you've never. Told them this never told them that. Well, first of all second. I took her see Erie versus Guel stayed with you. And she next as your phone call. You were like this is a keeper. And I'm never letting her go hundred percent. And but the thing that that may have been the most exciting about that night was loop Gaz Fultz somewhat end just lit him up. And I can't remember who the player was on golfer. I think that's all we talked about on the car ride home. Disbelief listening to his story left talking about Luke Gazza. Romance Elliott Friedman, come for a Riley state forget it's a beautiful night with Jeff American downtown. Bad romance. It's pretty bad thoughts a rally. Well, I liked it. And, you know, first of all I just want to say look giving a bit of an appreciation of the blues communication staff, which did this, and they asked if as part of the interview, they could common film a little bit of it. I thought they were really professional and was fun to have them around. So I really. Give us a lot of time. So sometimes we forget some of these people in this league are really happy to promote their players, and the blues came through big in this particular one, you know, was from to me normally 'cause we're starting to get like twenty minutes twenty five minutes in with Ryan. I look over the blues guys normally situation like that, you know, people from media relations hell giving you that the tap on the watch. Let's move it along. Nope. No problem. Nothing. Keep going take as long as you need. And we're here to promoter player that was Dan O'Neill was there with the blues. He was great. You know, I ask the thing about a rally like is he's blind. You know in Colorado. They didn't always like the fact that he was an independent thinker. I mean, there were a lot of things they went sideways there. And I think in a team sport that's one of the things we're kind of getting us to now in hockey is that not everybody thinks the same way. And it always used to be everybody thinks the way there's different thinkers now, and you have to deal with the fact that there are different thinkers, you know, my wife is vegan we've talked before about that. And his reading the book and saying, I think, you know, meeting is really bad and evil and a lot of ways, and I don't necessarily agree with that. I respect his ability to do his own research and say this is the call I making. I wish more people were like that. They just parroting and talking points. I like them a lot. I like that type of thinking listen just like him as hockey player. Yup. Can't believe you had that stick to it was so funny that that was really good that last year. What is this again? The stick story. Broadcast. He's ever been on candidates. Bring a weapon around like that. We're gonna ask you about it. When you have the free. It was a good ice breaker. Pasternack ugliest tape job in the NHL gave what what is this like you have to pay for your own tape. You can use them more couple of strips try to spread it out along the blade so yeah, thanks to Ryan rally for that one thing. So the Saint Louis blues media relations group and their web group as well. Yeah. Per- popping by the podcast. Okay. A couple of minutes to wrap up the pod today. What are your thoughts on a real nice tribute? We saw this on hockey dating Canada. Ottawa Senators and Bob Cole is final game. There. Kohl's the last game in Ottawa. Thank you for what you've given to the game and congratulations on your career. Oh, baby. Well, you know, Bob got the alumni award as the seventh man on Monday by Iran's introduction for him that I was off the charts. It was it was really good. This is a recording. Ron was great. You know, he didn't know what was going to do it. And he was really thrown Bob has made it very clear he wants no coverage about this. You know, for example, it's not really public. When his last game is I mean, we can figure it out because we've seen the schedule, but he doesn't want that out there. But he was really touched by it. It meant a lot him. He doesn't like attention. This is someone who would still love to call games. But it meant a lot to him that oughta we did that. And I'll tell you something too. I did a series with him. I can't remember what it was playing. But Bob was taking some criticism up there. And there was a sign in the crowd about Bob that was really negative. I can. Remember, what it said by knew it was bad, and they put it on their Jumbotron, and you know, the jumbotrons and I level in the press box. So he saw it. And he was really upset. He was really hurt. And I know the producer went after the Sanders and their credit, I believe ROY moloch while I remember ROY Malaka was the president that time, and he bent over backwards trying to make amends, but Bob was really hurt. And you know, Bob, he would never forget that. So I think for the senators to do what they did. It's great that would mean an awful lot to him making point to Sean FitzGerald, the athletic and the the twenty questions I did with him the one that was really good, by the way. Thanks, man. Was it too much? No, okay. Curtis. Joseph was good. That was Miller circumstances to yours. The thing that I've always liked votes, regardless of Scott lake one of the most I Kana calls of all time as a warm voice when I watch hockey night in Canada, turn the volume down. It's in a lot of times. It's Bob Dole's voice or standing Galvin's voice of a look at sabres games. And turn the volume down is still Ted still. I will always have Bob voice in my head. But the one thing that I like about coal, and the one thing that I like about Don cherry, specifically is more of a comment on our industry than anything else is that which is we've allowed people to grow old in front of us. And what does happen and other sports? And it's a good thing happens with men, I hope Dade day. It happens with women as well. There were able to watch people age in front of us. Nothing wrong with putting a senior citizen on television. I think we're bring a senior citizen on television calling live events. And I think it's quite commendable that we don't try to hide and these two are the perfect examples. We don't try to hide senior citizens away. I think that's a great statement on this industry with these two in general, I agree with how you feel about what they do what they say or their opinions or their whatever just the fact that they've been on the air and we've been allowed to watch them. Grow old the s me is a remarkable statement. Yes, you should not lose your job simply because you're older and sports is an ages to business trip from the time on the field to the time covering it. Don't forget, by the way, a plug for the lead with Blair Bruns. Bob cole. So check thousand standing interview there. A couple more things quickly. Peter Lavi, let dons the Bullhead. What's this story? Making good on the victim. Good on a deal with the players. We had a challenge to western counted against good hockey teams. Take four points. And this is the back end of the challenge. Awesome. I want to ask him if when he was coaching the Carolina he would have done that not a chance, but that was awesome. When he came out wearing that great. It was fantastic. We were laughing our heads off. Are there any other coaches you could see doing that in the game right now? It's one of those questions where if you ask it. You're my initial first time I saw while it was what a freak because if I would've asked you. Hey, Elliot, which coach can you see doing that? I would've said nobody I remember. Drove but not a chance. No, no, I'll tell you. I sat down with Paul Murray's on Tuesday. I wish I would have thought about it. I got that wicked sense of humor. He's got the best dry. Yes. Sense of humor. I like another guy would be I just don't know him that well and just trying to build something in a young team. But what if the New York Rangers went to California and David Quinn said to them could you guy data quince thing? If you win three games here. I'll put that mask on. Jeez. I don't know. 'cause I don't know what he was like with the kids. View by wonder like that about a rookie coach too because you trying to stab. I want to be in the Peter Lavi latte is wanna Stanley Cup. He's been wrong time has been around that. And it doesn't hurt you rookie. Hey, Jim Montgomery. Dallas is on on a rip your ten in a row. Put on the like, I can't see it. I can't argue. I can't argue that one with you. That's actually rod Brindamour premed thing on either. No, they this one of those things where you can't see anybody doing it until they do it. That was the whole point of. I can't pick one person out of the crowd and say marines will be my pick you reference. Chad walkers, really nice piece on Patrick Moreau ruins always been one. I've always had a soft spot for maroon going back to when he played with Edmund. And we talked about this last year on the pot does great interview with gene Principe. He's kind of guy when you ask them a question getting an honest answer. Even if it means he's going to reveal a little bit too much about himself. No such thing. Because as a reporter, we want people to be honest, and we can't rip them for being honest. I was surprised though, he went to that debt. Just most players don't do that. They don't tell you that. I wanted to hear that teams were wanted and believed in me, and we kinda got that tractor from New Jersey years on say was. Offers to your deal. New Jersey offer me quite a bit more money. But I took a chance of myself a chance to sign a one year deal with way, less money. And bet no myself, and I'm going to take all the risk. I thought it would be a better situation a better fit. If I came to say because my son to be here. And I think most importantly, you can't put a price tag on family. It was nice to hear a guy on camera be blunt about it. You know, I can tell you some seeing him in Toronto. He looks bigger. Does he? Yeah. He's always been a big big guy a heavier big four. Check guy. Just looked even bigger than I remember them. I like the guy that bets on himself. I'm a big believer in that too. And I've talked I mentioned that the blog to I of Neulander I would do that. But one agent told me why he doesn't think he will. Because the contracts could change speaking of contracts. We have a contractual obligation to talk about Neil ender every week. So we'll we'll park it here at the end is give me like thirty or forty five seconds where everybody's at in this saga. No, you always worry that you say this. And then it's going to come out and. I just think that they're trying to be optimistic both sides trying to find ways, but it's not easy to get there. It's just not easy to get where they both want to be. All right. Final thought on the pod before rep up so trick or treating next week. We have a weird quirky schedule that there's no Wednesday night game for Wednesday hockey, Monday Scotiabank. So we're doing a double header on Monday. Which means you go trick or treating with your kids. I do I go trick or treating with my kids. So what are you going this year? I haven't even thought about it. To be honest with you. I haven't I know my two kids were costume shopping with my wife last week. But she hasn't told me because they wanted to be a secrets. Okay, that's fair. That's I don't know. Well, max you going out? It's something to. Yeah. So e repaired to all tells. That might be next year. No. So this year first of all max told my wife at a nowhere that he wants to be vampire who alike. So when I saw him today got back from Winnipeg. I said, you know, why did you pick vampire we went to the costume store, and you saw the vampire costumes, and you really liked them. So he's going to be a vampire fangs. We'll try. We'll see never know what they make up for. Sure. Yeah. So we'll do this. But for me, so I saw this jacket. Okay. You're going automatic red jacket. I would love to do that. I'm a bit of a comic book superhero guy. So in the third Batman movie, I forgot all the names. But the one where you know, there's being so he wears jacket in the movie, and I saw this jacket, and it's not the same one of the pike seven thousand dollars. But I saw one is like leather and full sheepskin. And I bought it. And my wife looked at me like you are the stupidest person. And it stinks. So she made me put it in the garage for a couple of days to air out. But I says you have to go as being so we're trying to find a vein, and so he's going to be a vampire, and I'm going to be being. That's a fantastic. Do you have the voice down? I'm working on it. Okay. You gonna break next the buses of band. It's going to be a carbon copy, Tom hardy man like separated birth. Oh, yeah. No. You guys are simple now. Okay. I don't know what to go as so. I'll take thoughts. And recommendations, you your Levy let I would do that. My kids would love it. Hey kidding. Yeah. Just by goal go. I just go to determine does she still have her costume shop? I'm sure she could take care of anything. He could hook us up hooked me up with some sweet Star Wars stuff when doing that Saturday show a couple of years for that number. That's right. I knew costume store and got some sweet stuff for us. All right. People say, what are you say? I told my kids if we want in Calgary net. That's awesome. Okay. And again, thanks everyone. Who who tweeted in one of the things that I got a lot couple nights ago was people that were in similar situations as I was and the sympathy in the empathy was was quite overwhelming, and for people that may be going through it right now with the parents, I was texting with someone a good friend in New York on Tuesday night. And we're talking about when you go through this. And how when you are when you're really young. You know, the I fear that you really understand is that your parents, you're gonna lose them at a certain point. And you don't know how long so it may be soon. And there's that initial fear that you have about the world and that sits with you forever. You never let go of that fear. No matter how old you are whether you're a teenager. Whether you're you know, into your adult years of that fear sits with you. So when your parents parents do pass, not only do you have the adult pain. But you have that whatever's left of your five year old selfs world ending. That's over that that fear is now finally gone and one thing that I've realized over the past couple of days is that ignoring that makes things a whole lot easier. Thanks to everyone who has gone through this and taking the time to direct message me or tweet or Email or text. I really wanted to make sure that everybody understands how appreciative of all of that. Wanna thank my dad for taking care of me. As everyone listening to this podcast was I was adopted, and he was someone who always said along with my mom, find your birth. Mom, if you can and let her know that you're okay. She deserves that satisfaction of knowing that her son is fine. And I did that. And that was because my parents insisted that I do I now have a wonderful relationship with my birth mom, and we talk and we see each other all the time. So thanks everyone here at Rogers. Who's been helping me through all of this? Thanks. You Elliot for all your kindness and patience and compassion. And we'll take you out again. Thanks. Everybody has been wonderful taking you out with a band called snake river, the song is called where can I turn? You can check out their latest album and all their music at snake river, M T, N dot com. Thank you for listening to this podcast. We'll be back next week. Carrie?

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Eurobash: Episode 81 (w/ Paul Felder, Fabian Edwards)

The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani

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Eurobash: Episode 81 (w/ Paul Felder, Fabian Edwards)

"Hello and welcome to episode eighty one of your Bash Fine Sunny Day in Dublin. Doyle McGrath is it. Is it Sony on the Sarah Door to US getting little rank clouds over there getting on work overnight as miserable as you lot? So Am Yeah. We tend to get the better weather. It's beautiful that's true to be on us and yeah it's it's crack day. Someone's playing a joke on us with all this board. Am I guess it is good? At least we followed side and stay within our two K. Or whatever the hell it is at least a bit of sunshine novel grow yet as soon as splitting the rocks and the Burnham life as as well as eight there for an era of Iran. And I'm a red pizza to say the least I have to confess so we're not used to this sort of Sogno but it's all good. Yeah more freckles. Multiply and Donald. Frankly Coin Jesus Christ that'd be out there for half an hour and then I'm just focused. Covert in the eighties. I'm sad or Tuba not you. I would imagine not moist gail or went. They're jealous Piss me off this is how can I grow them? I'm getting annoyed with people being I'm like. Why is this? How many people? That's all the time trying to take the dog for a walk down the canal yesterday and I swear to God. It was like a full concert. What's going on so it lasted about two seconds during turned around and full combine. Tom Upset there is a lot of people. Do so bane the government's guidelines on. It's disappointing to say the least. Y'All got annoyed as well. Let's be honest. A lot of people are today. It was floating around those people in our gardens and then over the coffee shop or astonished so he's not really social days. And so the Stephanie. Be Name a little bit of What would you say? I am a regression the progress that we thought we were making so fortunate idiots yes however the fights are back this week. Number Bulletin Ham Fleet. Well well we hope they will be audio audiard's all-time sport but we think is GonNa Happen. This weekend you'll see to forty nine going down in Jacksonville. Florida am John Gibson. We'll get onto or at in a few minutes. Let's just break down the few headlines we do have from this week Marvan Vittori v Carroll Roberson is set for May Thirteenth Kristoff Jovi. Eric Anders Differ May Sixteen Leon Edwards Darren tail and Janie Manoa of set up a coalition to combat knife crime in the UK at Till v Whitaker Has basically been verbally agreed by both parties. Put out a catchweight and Dana. White doubts we will see Habibie Tony. Twenty twenty and UFC Kazakhstan has officially been scrapped We will probably wasn't gonNA go down but it is official now. It is not happening on June. Sixth of course Peoria Marlin Roy's were set the top card and I think shocking there too you know. I think is great. Add after the appearance on the episode last week at Double Down Radio on what he said to us a bit. The noise situation and Birmingham has begun. This Cross County am kind of coalition with Teal and Liverpool and Jimmy. Mono and loan than very good to see that yeah. Fair played some delays and their you know their platform and this time. It's obviously try and get down at the forefront US covert nineteen liens. Last week there was a number of stabbings and even in one day in Birmingham on. It's sort of going on across the UK and the major cities Liverpool Birmingham loan allows from Darn. It's obviously very close to home for him. Him being stopped and he was sixteen seventeen in not club. So a great thing. I think from the largest to do and and sort of puts other news back into the headlines. And you know I think that's what's been sort of needed like you know. It's all being covered. Nineteen and these problems still go on even a time where we're all supposed to be always relating Which is it's great to see fairplay. Lots well to be honest you were on their say Habibie Tony Things since this initial which is we initially found out. It wasn't going to happen to for knowing the the fifth time Alaskan. You said you're going to deal with the mottes as to when people would be available as the win. Habib would be finished Robert on ready to fight you. You kind of knew that be re. Tony Wasn't going to happen in two thousand twenty. You were very confident that as soon as two. Four nine yeah. Listen it's not made I don't WanNa be seen on stage. Yeah I think the UFC are gonna go ahead. And you know Book Conor McGregor possibly against the winner Saturday nights and you know Habib Obviously Ramadam being where he is the moans Dagestan. You know flights visas. It's not happening anytime soon. I think you know locked the AFC or the train would fight islands. Obviously having a for international voters a bay state so the US we've had no sort of words again yet and what's going on there on sort of Dafna confirmation from Dana. He keeps talents as there. Were yet to have any sort of real evidence. So if you're looking at KNOSSOS Monday. They're not hopping. And then that's effectively. Real Zeta be from where he is at the moment in in can beat and and obviously Ramadan and all that happening as he said previously won't fight during this period so does something for the winner. Saturday night potentially against Mr McGregor. I think in In July somewhere am I. It's like you know it's very good for the foyer. There's a Florida's are excited to be competing for the fights and how are your levels? I'm on today. I woke up and I was GONNA Shit. We fight since Saturday. Looks like as we're we're going to talk about in a few minutes. Obviously the things going on the US. And the State of Florida and You know ringside physicians of sort of eased our stance on on the flights going ahead so points average and that rock she gonNA get some fights. This weekend's on it I'M NOT GONNA lie. I'm excited like why wouldn't we cover the sport? We haven't had a for two and a half three months. It's a long time for us having cards literally twice three times a week and we're blocked it out on Saturday night so I'm not gonNA lie. You know these. Obviously huge risks gone habit this card stale but the government of given it the all clear there in Florida Mr Desantis. Golden dishonest is a has said. It's okay to go the Sanctis so listen. This is not only going to get behind that. I'm going to be on the media stuff. This week is where the sea are deemed online for the first time ever. So so why not why not? I'm excited how are you? Are you excited? You must be off to be no. Yeah I'm excited. I'm excited but it does have the feel of a disaster movies like Armageddon and boy. It's like I mean we did get some good soins We had an article on Emma. My voiding this week basically from the for the ring soy physicians who came out against the idea of events happening you know when Dana was trying to put them on April boot. It seems. They've softened their approach. Here there statement is as follows the Association of Ringside Physicians recognized that the circumstances regarding covert nineteen pandemic. I continue changing involving a stay at home. Orders relaxed athletic. Commissions on combat sports governing bodies are looking to restart operations although it is impossible to eliminate all risk associated with culver dining precautions coming made to reduce the risk of viral transmissions and many athlete Commissions Athletic Commission are organizations and promoters are developing new guidelines to limit exposure to all involved in events including athletes their teams commission commission personnel and support staff. So am I guess it does seem like it is? It is safer now to do it when they initially were going to do it for them. You know they're still on the foyer too into morning and one day mornings morning from Jed mess you and we're seeing Bobby Barhoum still pretty pissed off going at. He was saying that I think the behavior of people in sports we should be following our Adam silver of the NBA Roger Goodell of the NFL people who proceeding cautiously and say if enough people are acting like cowboys for example the UFC wanted to do it is in California and they were prevented by Governor Newsom Ombo Senator Feinstein going to ESPN having Dana. Pull the plug. It turned out the one of Florida's in fact tested positive afterwards for grown warriors. You know if we get something like that on one of his shows and God forbid there's a series of spreading the disease. It doesn't do well for anybody's who's involved with sports and interesting enough also featured a Delahoya seems to be a commending Dana. Even though they've had that long pulled the Soyuz beef so I wonder how that that resolved itself but a very interesting stuff. There and I mean do you more comfortable with a happening now than than say April last month a few weeks ago when they're trying to do this initially no probably not I think it's more and credible new because they the governor has given the go ahead but I don't think the circumstances of changing awful lot in terms of what the USCCA. Dan. You know report that came out. And we've seen what the ringside physicians have said. It seems that that yes you are going to do testing this week. So I think that's GonNa pull people's minds little bit arrest going into this boat now on like I'm very modern very very sort of fifty fifty on the estate. I'm obviously excited but should it really be going ahead? I don't know I don't know I really. I stay accommodate my mind over this being beat myself up this last team and a half months even when the original card was cancelled a month ago but you know teams are in place you know why not. You know we'll we'll more not stay at home and watch the debate review and I don't know I I find it hard. We'll talk about the the the information we have on testing etc when we come back after our first interview boredom. Yeah like basically all the noises you're making just remind me that. Mma journalists are the windiest weakest people covering the hardest strongest sport. And all. That's how I think. A lot of them are listen. Listen actually more edging towards less and less. Let's go ahead of all these things in place you know. It might put a smile on people's faces you know. I'm going to be happy watching the fights and Saturday night. We'll take them away from that from the troubles of water going on and big happy face on your whether you're watching them smile ECORSE. That's that's what I'm saying. It's one of those ones where you know you look about. So it's hard to to really sort of go on either side. Probably showed him behind them. But then you know. Let's let's not be too hypocritical or we're going to be enjoined. The fights and Saturday night. So let's get to a PT. I interview of the day. Is What Mr Poll Feller who commentators this weekend at. Ufc Two four nine. Sorry it doesn't commentate. He's on color analyst. Judy from home and fairly explain all that. What's next for him and lots lots more? He got a new dog as well which is pretty cool so check out the interview Paul. We'll be back to talk about this weekend. Ufc Two four nine card always a pleasure to welcome on. He's on core analyst. Judy's from home. We believe this weekend for. Ufc Two four nine. Eight is always a pleasure to have on the Dragon. Paul Paul First of all I think the question everyone wants to know is what have you been eating over? This period of time were where was getting really bad. I still had moments of Debauchery as I like to call it but all in all I've been trying to clean up the Diet getting much better shape of running a lot. Doing the spin bikes. I'm very very very small group of guys that I've been starting to slowly get some pat sessions in and some work but we're trying to limit donuts over here now. Obviously it's it's tough times for everyone Paul but but has everyone has. The family is everywhere. There's everyone safe. Yeah Yeah so. Far you know fingers crossed knock on wood but so far You know I'm here. Christine and GNASHING got the dog my mom as well. My brothers are both well. My brother John is still working fulltime. 'cause he he worked for the perceptive of the public transportation and he works on the on the rails and down in the subways. So He's been working. My brother's been working from home and my My Mom's working from home. So everybody's been you know board everybody's board the new arrival in the household as well. I just saw off air. There are moments big Rodney Rodney. I the last few weeks I really started to WANNA dog. I travel a lot and I didn't know how he's GonNa handle it. But I was like I bet support around me with people that have him in my mom and my brothers. Christine everybody so I was like. I'm not too worried about so we went and we just looked at some rescued places around. We looked at some. We're looking at bulldogs and things like that and it just didn't work out that we went to this rescue spot in this poor guy was sitting there scars on his face needed. A home in these massive. I didn't plan on getting a giant eighty six pound pit bull. But he's such a sweetheart part he doesn't realize I'll bet years and he just hit me with a sad is all right when I wasn't going to get him because he was too big and he wasn't being super friendly. He was kind of being skittish standoffish and I was like well. I'm not going to get this guy. He's not. You know coming up to me and giving me kisses nice started thinking stews locked in a cage doesn't know what's happening so similar to you. Fight night locked locked in the case so I felt I felt for the man. So I'd I scooped him up Paul. Obviously you've you've committed and you said a lot of things. We spoke as well. You know you're getting that h again. Hey was the held her. The injuries has everything injury As far as anything. That's came from the fight. That's all cleared up my my my orbital bones are all healed up my calf. Obviously a few weeks later sealed up at Just some soreness from getting back into training harder. That's about it. But as far as my desire man. I did about eight to ten rounds of hardcore. Mma stuff today with one guy. I won't say who will say where it won't say any of that kind of stuff like little secret meetings because people are only anybody out but I'm working I'm working. I think by in the summer I've really good to go. So you're you're totally excited to get back in there and throw down again you the the retirement talk and obviously you're thinking about data to join the emotions. Were high is very much focused. Back GETTING THE OCTAGON. Or is it GonNa take dot special moments? Our fight is still going to take a good fight. I'm not saying it's gotTa be the number two guy or the number three guy but it's gotta be somebody in the top ten around there. That's exciting something that I feel like can catapult a both of our careers. Whoever that person is to you know what I mean if they can jump over me and get ahead then great. But that's what makes good fights it's got to be two guys that are still competitive to get back towards the top of the division and Quite a few guys out there you know and with the whole quarantine and travel bans if the UFC can get going next week this weekend. Then we get the ball rolling. Dana White's get these fight going. We get fight. Ireland goal was says a real thing then benders possibility laterally could skip the line. You know what I mean. This is that crazy shit that I was telling you about where you ever know. Look Dominick Cruz. Who's fighting Henry Pseudo? Now now these are opportunities that that really took place because some guys weren't training because guys can't get into the country it limits the amount of people but good for him for being ready and taking opportunity and I. I kind of expect something similar to happen for me where you know. July August comes around and they need you know big fights on pay per view. Eventually a main event for one of these smaller shows at the apex I would love to headline show at the apex of no crowd. As long as it's a great fight and I might be able to skip up into that top five over a lot of guys because I'm saying kind of cheating but shit I don't care how thank you not. GonNa know what's cheating and what's not cheating so if I get a big fight because of this stuff and that that excites me you know what I mean. It's very much the case. Because you know if we look here identity is GonNa be on a European cards soon. It looks like Dublin's going to be consul. Which is obviously a big shamed for us here. Yeah don't even speak to me. I think we we did a couple of tax when the government here and stuff I was like Oh man. If I wasn't fighting on it you know I was going to be working hard. Yeah well listen. Fingers crossed only might change between now. And then but it's obviously on lightly but as you said like a lot of guys in the lightweight division at the top of division. You've Connor Yav Habib. They're they're about European. They're both going to be still care for the foreseeable future. It's hard to get visas all that sort of thing. You said this leapfrog so you feel by the next month or two you WANNA get in their back again and make that push of Prague is you could even potentially be looking at five between one of these two guys on a at the top of division next you you who knows who knows. That's crazy and I'm not saying that it's necessarily how it should go right. Star my fucking figure out what you you know. It shouldn't be right like you know. Khokar should be fighting and so should be fighting but that might just not happen and I'm not going to say no to a fight. Just because so-and-so can't get out of a country I'm GonNa take that you know any of these fights and there's GonNa be a loser this Saturday between Justin and And Tony and one of them is going to need a fight to jump right back into that spotlight to get a fight and you know that's a fight that we talked about forever right that it could work out that I end. I end up getting one of these fights between Tony or or just in or Dustin. It's like those are the names are I want to be getting in the mix with you know for sure. I'm not fat shaming you Paul. How is the way it at the moment? Because you're a guy we've often talked about it you know. We've often talked to bet it takes to get Dan. Beard is making me look. That don't don't be deceived. It's all beard this loan under the that's what I say may rely relax relax muzzle week all the heaviest faulk. I'M NOT GONNA lie to you If they called me and said Oh shit. May sixteenth. We need you to fight at one. Seventy I'd say that is not even going to happen at one seventy. We fight at middleweight. And I can make that happen but as far as the summertime. I'm running again. It's getting nice here on the East Coast Iran yesterday Randy Miles and it was beautiful out. I've been doing a lot of the Viking and I'm starting to get back into my anime training and You know I think we're all going to be limited as far as I think we've got to just really try to figure out. What can we do? And I'm not really hard for dieting. And if I was hard for dieting my my weight with the workload that I'm doing would be significant. I just gotTa get Nick Calorie deficit which I'm not really fully doing it. I've got to ask you that as well. I'm obviously with the Duke. Not being around you not being able to travel down there. I know you guys in Philly and stuff. Have you been doing a lot of work in your yard? Have you been you know you said you were a couple of guys? You don't name that's fair enough but you know the day to day sort of thing maybe a couple of weeks ago. What have you been doing just hating pods eight in the backyard and wants me in that process so a lot of pads and I did do a few backyard sessions literally where my that holds pass Ryan would come over and we did it and my mom has a big backyard so didn't even go on her house. We just went and I knew there was a big open. Patrick grasp that we could hear the pads and it was nice out and like. I said when the weather is nice. I've been going for long long runs. I took a few weeks often the long run because I was destroying feet. Running too much But Yeah Long. Runs Pat Sessions intense PAT sessions? When I get on the past but with with my boy I I've been going at it and Yes some limited. Mma training with very very very very small groups and by small. I mean you know one guy but when we get it in we we get it in and we do. Ten to twelve rounds Hour hour and a half two hour sessions. 'cause I might not get another enemy workout days. I've been still getting my lifts in and plenty of Cardio but it's not ideal. It's not what I would want for a full training camp if I was GONNA book fight. I'm still going to Dukes. And it's very limited there too. You know he can't really. I mean he's not open just like everybody else isn't technically open. But once I'm out there I can at least find the guys. I'm probably going to be getting some kind of testing done this this coming next weekend. So I'll know where I stand on on this whole situation whether it's an antibody test or a a Kobe test I'll know and unfortunately if I can show up and having I'm not working it'd be a waste of a trip. I'm supposed to be going to Florida and and working so I get there. I'm negative and I know. Okay I just gotTa stay negative for the rest of my life you know. Yeah uh-huh definitely listen. Ask Abedzadeh's well. You know. Obviously with the fight card happening this weekend. You mentioned that there you know. He's not working with their coaches cable. Did an interview with. Espn he said he thinks a lot of the fights are going to end early. What effect do you feel as a fighter not working your coach and the day to day basis? These guys are GonNa have on Saturday night problems in terms of even longevity going the distance implementing dot game. Plan isn't gonNA hinder the fights massively. Yeah I think it will. I think we'll we will see things be a lot different and I grew with cowboy there where you might see people get slugged out a little bit more because certain people might show up just to make a paycheck. You know what I mean. They might WanNa just fight. But I don't see that as there's no reason people should just be guessing out because if anything all these people have been able to do is cardio right. There's no reason if you're indecent whether you shouldn't be running your face off and you can make sure you're in shape but I think people you know are just going to slug it out a little more because you know it's like screw it. I haven't had the craziest Camp I might as well go out there and put on a show and I hope that's what everybody does because everybody watching this. This is an opportunity. Nobody has had live sports for months. People can go out and make a statement man people the face in the rankings and the stars is. Ufc can really change throughout this quarantine in the next month or so. Obviously being close to cowboy. Close to showtime Pat us. Your teammate split loyalties this weekend for you. Have you spoken to do about what he's been able to do with showtime? Obviously you're in the loop there. It'd be much work with the guys. Are you know what's gone them? I Yeah I know Anthony's getting working but I don't know exactly with who but I know that him and Duke. At least I think have been able to get in some work but again. I don't really know know that dukes healthy and well and I've been talking to him at least every every week or so checking in with those guys but I just asked him. I was like you know towards the summer if I have to book a Camp Can. I still come and live at the fighter house and he said Yeah. So that's all I know. I know that the house is still there for me. And he basically said we'll figure out something and you know like we used a lot of these fighters doing make sure everybody's saves maybe get I. I'll even pay for the antibody test for people that I know that I'll be training with come fight time so that we can stay in a small group even if it's out in in In Milwaukee where I even if I have to bring a few guys to live at that firehouse with me and and just keep it. Keep it small but you get the work in where you can. Hey Do you feel Paul about the whole situation? Obviously you know this card was fat off a number of weeks ago. How do you feel as a fighter and as a commentator guy that's going to have to go to these events obviously the government of of more or less clear than an Florida and we saw today that Mark Raymond e put a report on? Espn that the FCC are GonNa Cova testing for the fighters. You mentioned not as well so that seems to be a line. Are you comfortable now? Going to these events traveling to these events. I mean I'm nervous. Of course just like a anybody's gotta travel through this Is going to be a little nervous? Have been to an airport since since last pay per view that I worked and that was kind of road is it started to become the thing you know you started really hearing about swarming through the US when it still wasn't like we're not gonNA we're not going to have to shutdown like that's ridiculous and now it's been on six weeks seven weeks that we've been shut down here. I think so. Yeah nervous but also. I know nervous for the test because it's miserable but I'm also really excited to to know that I don't have this goddamn thing you know or know that. I do have a symptom matic and they got a shot my ass down for fourteen days. Which really sucks because if? I go out there and test positive. They're going to lock me up in my hotel room for fourteen days. I'm on a standing me back to the airport right. I mean there aren't myself there. I'm uses fourteen days. I'm going to be home with my family. So that's a regular occurrence. Where do you go to events anyway? So you might as well get used to it. Never get straight back home. I'll man yeah now now I might have to quarantine when I get back. Living Risk have have people you know Christine and everybody in Ashton job food outside my room. I gotta ask you before we wrap up but the appreciate the time on. I noticed you were on M. C. unfiltered with Matsubara. Actually text us today on am I. I'm not sure I think it's Tom. Norton is the CO host but base. Again you know. There's obviously be not talk of YOU and I'll you've mentioned before there's always being beef you're supposed to fight before and dynamic like being on what would not Sarah Z. Him Being Al's coach all Norton I know he's he's just messing with mad because he knows he's trying to hit controversial but I've talked to Sarah about it so many times. Man He really genuinely does seem to like me as a person and and it's mutual. I I think he's a great guy a great coach and I've seen how At at other sites and me and him having said a bad word to each other you know warning me. I think there's a lot of respect their think we're very much cut from the same cloth net. We're just we're tough guys. We're not always you know we don't always come out on top of when we're in there you know you've been in there with the two of us and on any given day we can be best guy in that division is just a but yeah. If if that's who I got a slug it out with I'll he's I've told you he's a Guy. I would definitely Fi. I'm Tony Dustin Justin Hooker be connor. That's about it fair enough. I think we watch on either Cobo more four. Let you go Paul. Obviously you're working from home this weekend. I can see the ESPN symbols and logos in the background. Different is out networking from commerce. Add up ready to go. It's going to be totally different dynamic. Does that intimidate you? Had you feel a working from home because obviously you know I know Internet can can obviously be an absolute nightmare times? We're we're GONNA find out I've done enough zoom interviews and things like that from inside of this house already like without all the actual setup and things have gone okay. So I'm hoping my Internet holds up and I've got my lighting rigs over here. I've got my tripod. They sent me an ipad with a Zoom Lens. And we just set it all up into tomorrow. We're GONNA. They're sending me a like a dome for the lights just trade. I got my suits up here on the bed. Ready to go dry cleaned and On on interesting you know. It's the only thing tough for me at least when I'm working show at the show you're at work you show up you put your suit on you get a little powder you ready to go. This is going to be a my own living room. There's beer down my fridge between Jones. Go Watch the main card. I'M GONNA WANNA go have a cocktail. I can't figure that I've gotta stay clean and sober. So that's that's like man. That's I'm definitely going to have some pizza downstairs ready to go in between fight so I can have. Some pizza. Watched the fights Ninja. Stay in my suit and jump on camera I need to. It's a phenomenal fight card. I know you're not lag for picks but what it stands for. You is this. Oh you are okay. You're allowed to fly pitch this. Okay right we'll have a quick shot. Commes remain dominant coming back. He's the king of He's dispelled any sort of talker. Mid Dot is ring obviously without performance against T. J. dillashaw when he came back after two three years to win the title. House enough to come back again and take the title from Henrietta. I'm calling it now calling me upset and I think dominant cruise walked out of the Chan. I agree with you are is dos. Because he's a car years and it's really not cause me and John talked a lot about it and in private to. I think he just awkward enough. I think he's big. He's strong he seems to be in really good shape. I'm watching this guy trained. He's doing this. Swim stuff dom one of those guys man. He really never stopped. He's another guy similar to Tony Ferguson. Where I feel like. They would thrive in this situation purely because of their mental side of things. He's not GonNa let this quarantine and having one training part about. He's going to do pool. He's going to do sprints he's GonNa make sure his cardio is on point and it seems to have enough training partners and coaches working with them where I don't think he's missed all that much of a beep and I know he's been healthy enough for a long enough time where he's been really focusing on getting in shape since we work together. Forever ago I can remember talking about Monte Conway fight him up slightly just so excited about seeing Dominick Cruz. Back in there. When one of the all time greats in my opinion in the in the Bantamweight Division. I've gotta ask you think this is you know. I don't like saying you know. Never like saying you know a favor fighter. I WANNA fight to win. But I think it'd be a crying. Shame if Tony Ferguson. Lost his fight. Because it's sort of dispels. Johnny sort of wishes our future potential meeting with Habib dandelions fight. I think the world is wanted to see but I feel this is one of those scenarios. The story with him coating wait a couple of weeks ago with that. I just think just engaging might do something here made you know might be able to get in the pocket and land something against Tony. What's your feeling with this fight? It's a big big risk. And there's not a lot of reward here for Tony Ferguson. Yeah I think it is a big risk but I think there's plenty of reward for you going in there with the circumstances that Tony is under and performing beating. Kai The caliber of gauging if you go in there and you beat him then the only problem with that is okay then next flight is obviously gotta be cubby began. We've just had this cove in nineteen stuff happened because of that. Fight what what's GONNA be next if they get scheduled fight again. The world's been explode for the sake of he's great. I hope that you know maybe that shouldn't happen. But I think I like both those guys man but I I just like justice power and the way he gets inside throws those folks. I liked the way he chops the legs. I like his toughness. I like his wrestling defense. And he's got wrestling offense. He doesn't give a shit to show it very true. I really feel like if you wanted to take any opponent. He's had yet so far to the ground ground upon them he could have. He's just like so I I see I. I don't know who is the favorite in that. Was Tony Tony slight favorite yet. I poll one more on the fence with this one. But I'm picking gauging okay. We'll more beyond that the way the Tony proceeded to go ahead and do regardless opponents three weeks ago. How much does that play into facts? Come Saturday night without hindered. Hinder Tony Coming into this week. I don't think so because I don't know how much Tony I know you know. He posted that he was still the night before. I think he was still pounds. Ten pounds eight eight seven eight. I think it was. That's that's standard man that I wake up and do that on on on the way and day if it's late way and if it's an early way I'm doing most of the night before. But that's he could bounce back from that pretty pretty bad day you know. He's a he's a pretty skinny guy. I don't think I there's some people out there that if they told me they were cutting the weight. Anyway I'd be like you're an idiot because you're going to really really damage yourself. You know. I've mentioned it in one of my other interviews. Maybe we me and John did the Internet live that you know for me. I wouldn't be able to do that. And I had people come out. And he called me Mentally Weak and all you idiots it has nothing to do with being mentally weak it has to do with twenty five pounds for me versus you know maybe seven to eight for somebody else. It's like I'm not doing that. It's not you know not because I'm not mentally tough. It's just my body to to do it all over again in three weeks. That's just. It's Tony Ferguson. Mom. We'll we'll let him away and that's right. Yeah works for him and I. I see what he's doing and he's trying to get into soccer he's head and I respect it but I'm just saying it can't be done by everybody so you've got to consider how much ways being cut thoroughly agree. We know what the MMA funds? He's a g man like. I I can't say enough. I have nothing against Tony. I I think he's a savage. He's an obsolete savage and listen conway for that fight Paul. I'm looking forward to seeing you got blocking there as well and listen sale all your family and everyone safe there in Philadelphia Paula. De Appreciate the time. I'm on unless and hopefully we'll have points in September. I know it's unlikely without proper pints right. Now it's driving your your what I'll tell you. What on a lot of people don't believe me never drank a little in my life because I am a pub point man. I'm not account point one. You WANNA real real gas word pie and most amount of of drink. Alcohol ipod him. One evening I'm one sitting. It's four small cans the big concert onto the coca-cola is cons four of them and I haven't drank in two weeks on. That's me I'm a changed man. I'm not eating. I haven't eaten meat in months later. You Changed Mom Paul. It's unbelievable it's unbelievable. I tell you what I'd murder obstinately murder. Kohl's extra cold point of Guinness Stray from atop good right now to Kinda thirsty and that sounds listen monitoring it's GonNa be a while before we got a buck. It's going to be talking about September October before the pope's opened last open so I'm struggling but listen listen as long as we're all safe. I don't give a shit that's the main thing you know. Yeah Right. Of course yeah. Of course in the men whether it's a six months three months a year from now everybody is going to appreciate things just so much more right. Imagine when you're finally cleared with your boys and you get the high it's GonNa be it's GonNa be something special I've been saying for a while and you know we've been saying on the show quite a lot. That wants this ends. You're gonNA appreciate things a lot more on. You're going to have the best of your life. Paul unimagined before the Fonz you said there in terms of covert nineteen. They should do before we before we let you go. Yeah just you know everybody got. Please do your best stay safe. Stay in here and You know stay clean. Stay HAND WASHED. And for the fighters out there man just keep working at frigging cardio and fighter spite that the UFC calls you and you want this opportunity. Stay SAFE TAKE IT. And all the fans man we are. We are underway. I'm getting all the emails I am. Set up this shit is happening the UFC Dana White. We are going to be the first sports back on. Tv and people are going to have something to watch. And I'm willing to take to fly to Florida to do it so tune in by that pay per view. Let's go. Let's get this world back in order. I Agree Paul. Always a pleasure to speak to appreciate the time a friend. Thanks rather big time to Paul for something but he was busy. They're hurling around with Scotch note with a Ma-. Espn percent opened his. He's leaving rambled fairplay. The Paul for coming on board am really. Let's have a look at the Information. Does a great article on. Espn Monday morning from the Great Mockery. Mandi a lot of information in here and about the testing well more information than I've seen anywhere else Most here's ED. Just quoting the article. Now it is called. Let me tell you inside. The challenges of holding major sporting event during the crown of ours pandemic very Toro Toro piece on these out here. And let me just find the part that we're looking for and there will be several restrictions on a whole new set of protocols and Jacksonville and email at the team's last week. Usc cautioned that things will be different from our typical for eight week. Shocker most lawyers will roy playing. She was air Wednesday except for those who live close enough to drive normally for it as a row. Choose Day and how media allegations from Dan until towards the evening. That won't be the case this week. And when Florida's under coroner people get to the hotel they will go through mandatory medical screening tests according to IOS email. Most teams expect a forward to be tested. Covert knowing Dane as indicated in the email the USC performance institute sensiti athletes sources confirmed. Espn that the US administer both diagnostic swap ground tests as well as the antibody test and once the corner. People go to medical checkpoint they will meet with. Ufc staff members who will inform them or procedures for the rest of the week. The Ford isn't cars will be given credentials to be worn at all times in the hotel. Sources said they will be excuse me sources said they will be asked to not mingle and large groups troy to sell voice late within reason until they're cove in nineteen tests whose results comeback am per the email everyday. Avoid or team. Member IS ON HOTEL PROPERTY. Here she will be required to return for additional medical screening. That will include temperature checks and questions about potential corona verson them sources said that host is no longer taking reservations for the week teams of told they will be given individual workout rooms in which the train and Co way. During the week prayer the email the rooms will be equipment mats mats sanitizer on a personal to assist in way. Quitting the Hotels Room Service will be open twenty four hours and there is a market on site the email said and troy the. Us's meals sponsor will provide fifthly to want it meals. What we dropped in front afford our hotel door hell hotel room doors at scheduled times and doc performance you will have staff to help nutrition waistcoats and physical therapy. The physical therapy will be available for performance. Related matters only before it is on the card to your email darned. Us's door parties compete. We'll have products on Hondas well and at the hotel card. Usc male housekeepers will be a quick but hospital grade. Sanatorium comparison protective equipment official weigh INS. Take place Friday morning as usual but UFC. As told 'em foreigners have scheduled tournaments. They hit the scale to limit the number of people in the room at the same time and having scheduled terms. Or Wayne's was the plan for the council touchy show too so yes. That is a lot more information than we got from. Dana White and Kevin Oil the interview. It's very to say no. Yeah I think he's. He's clearly obviously just been working on the finer details right up until then this week. It seems you know I think obviously you know I. It probably would have made more sense if they came in and got the casting. Maybe you know this. You know earlier on this week Instead of waiting five week because realistically in this situation we could have some testing positive. And you know if they're if they're coming in and we don't know what they've been doing or they've been in contact with so that's going to be the interesting thing for me and it is obviously that have Testing in place once the outlets report on. I'm just surprised it wasn't known a bit sooner and on the sec part but obviously a very costly process running at a hotel and on the testing Butler heartbeat safety first pc and it seems like the USC will be the first sport back. We feared the Tena Boy. Wouldn't get as an extra feathers copy. Because the German Bundesliga was due to return on. May ninth the the Soccer League there. And but that's been nixed for the government now an. It turns out that in their screening at ten people between the Bundesliga on the second division in the German League where found to have van tested positive. Ten people so Yeah I guess I guess the fact that these tests is probably didn't want to rush into anything. Is that what you're saying you know? Maybe we should have done the tests earlier. Engaged everyone on the oil and they find out then. It's already too late altogether. I think that's going to be a major problem. You know you could. You could have someone literally dominant in a day and it might show just things like that. Amit scalded avid obviously in place. But you're now you're looking at. I think two players Massey Cologne at the weekend were tested. Positive for 'em Corona Virus Clone of bonuses the club and if that's going ahead this weekend and they're obviously going to have problems but I know. The German club is solving testing quite rigorously but still at the end of the day. It's coming down to the government there. The German Prime Minister Angela. Merkel is meeting with the Bones League on. I think six of this month. That's what two days time. So that's going to be interesting what they do want to get back. The funds don't want to. It's going to be behind more last behind closed. Doors and everything. Three hundred and twenty. Two people are GonNa be leading the TANNIN's book. Yeah you know. I think the reason why. I'm okay with the SEM Florida to a certain extent is because of the government's actually going ahead and they see these protocols in place so there's a little bit of a difference there. I think I think it's only a matter of time before other sporting organizations like the Bundesliga back. Because you know all the clubs are calling for it to come back and then the primarily a difference satisfies circumstances but. I think there are just all sort of waiting on clearance really. Yeah you mentioned there is something I wanted to bring up the fines. Being Open. Arms about this haired. This can't early speaking about this on second captains last week. Very very different Situations feel with the the soccer even covert soccer on the founder of soccer and the amount of information the light side and that was available in media about the Bundesliga combeback like I mean rigorous rigorous like Detail in terms of the trainings. Sessions will go. And how have the for? The athletes will shower after tranny. Unbelievable the detail and of course then the fines being open ams not wanting at the sports return even though of course they probably miss it a la very different than the situation with Emma. May I mean it's a coin of shows and a glaring difference between mainstream sport and I think the difference with with the Bundesliga and soccer in Germany is you know The FONZ think bar two of the Bundesliga clubs owned the own the football clubs and think it's if I'm not mistaken. Wing Spar Leverkusen. An Wolfsburg are the only two clubs that are owned by corporations and they're not very well loitering in the German league so I think the fans of more of a connection with the players and the club and they're often invited to to to to see how things are dome with the ticketing and the prices. All this kind of thing. It's very different to the premier league and older sort of organizations around the world. So that's possibly why and I think they've more of you know they. They don't Wanna see their players damage. They don't see negative things into their club. And it's a very very sort of different environment in terms of fons Donnie. Sort of other funds around the world. It's it's it's a little bit like Spain but probably a more hardcore elements but it's a family sort of events a lot of these games in Germany but yeah it's very different obviously the US's a multi billion dollar corporation and Danish. WanNa give anything away and yeah. He should have been more transparent to respects of the fighters for the fighters safety to let them make decisions. We saw amount of noon as Paul as unto us to see. I wouldn't be surprised if a few guys you know. Get to the hotel this week and go shit man. I don't know do I like what's going on here. I am not to put an end up all night i. I wouldn't be surprised that that'd be. Yeah that'd be crazy right yeah I guess I. It's just funny to me like when I hear that the fans are open arms about them coming back and then on twitter looking at these funds anytime anyone expresses on concerned about if they're like. Hey this is fucking cage fighting man. It doesn't make a difference. You wouldn't watch it. If you cared about the fighters wellbeing man fucking cage. Did Jesus Christ does a lot of talk show you know if the Gorman are given the green light that's basically what you base it on? In my opinion on the governor gave him the green light in Florida you know Mr Diaz is happy with it and scientists. It looks from what we have. In in terms of information marks pieces. You've referenced their what the Ringside Physicians have said. It does seem to be in a better place. I think they're happy with the procedures the AFC you've taken so as long as the Gorman's are okay. What does it to be honest you more so than I'm not okay? It's very very tough as we've talked about it earlier on bought this very different terms and I think it's very hard to compare the Bundesliga with with the UFC in terms of funds. Wanting to box. I it's very very different set of funds as we well know and I think the funds in Germany have more vested interests as a saddened clubs and things like dot COM then. The funds do within the ultimate fighting jump ships. I think they should open the whole team to like that team. America America. I wouldn't be surprised about like it's not the end of the fucking day. It's gone ahead. No you know you see even here in Ireland. You know this. It's very divided. It's very strange feelings. We had the guy he's gone on on talking about it. We want Gaelic football back here and Dan. You know it'd be gives something people to look forward to obviously play behind closed doors and you guys know. We shouldn't play it we you know. It's it's totally unsafe all these but at least the UFC. We have to give them credit for. They've come out with this today tomorrow it round untold. History is going to be testing place and listen if it's in structure. That seems like he did a lot of reports. Investigative on Martin Marks Very Credible Goyen on most the information mark ever put his accident so and I go along with with with what Marx potent and. I'm sure Dana will definitely have something to say about thought this week and blowing his own trumpet that he's put every procedure in place to make it really safe from the fighters so I'm sure we'll hear it a lot more. Thought maybe this evening if he comes out and says something fuck yeah. Let's get on with our second interview of the day. We spoke to his brother last week. Mr Leon Edwards and this week we're speaking the Fabian Edwards a man who were mapped out at twenty twenty that would see him contend the the excuse me the ballots were very very interesting to pick as moin and on different things including how could possibly be a heavyweight by the next time void. F Great Speaker. Fabian has always at one of your favorites of course so at fifteen minutes and for more fantastic conversational topics. He's back one of the most hoped prospects in European anime on with a man who was his always on the world scene. When all this show fair gets back to normal over corona verse Mr Fabian Edwards who was due to take on cost. Levinstein is in London Fabian. How are you friend? I'm very yourself good. Yeah just really board to be honest but missing the fights and like everybody else. I guess I'm doing great. I've said Papa Post the other day I said training camp by isolation by training camp also. Nothing new to me to join us. I'm enjoying it it's am. It's interesting because that cost. Steen is is wound. We've been talking about for a long time. You said that kind of finished off the European kind of contenders and you wanted to go on to the world and is that still all using BALLATORE WANNA make before. They want to put you into that championship. Mix for the fiber talk take. He called he called for. I called for so it's a fight at the findings with an ounce assign those Afghans also does default. Fight the ambiance protesting to make happen after down. Are you impressed with that guy? Really a readable bellicose seems seems to be so because they seem to be eligible. Show them that. Guy. He's not under level. So that's that's it to be honest. I am like obviously that was bought for that. Sixteen of maker there was. There was a few whispers getting air before it was announced that they were looking at Amsterdam for that care. Was that ever something? You heard a bit like I mean you and Costlo as voiding Saddam. Was that ever a possibility? That would mention that. We've mentioned on on some aerosmith off and decided to go back to London. Some good memories in London so is it. Is that still coming over there in London? When you talk on Moi shipment and the energy We between you guys and London was huge. Obviously nearly came to browse at the Wayne Stole from that way. Just the atmosphere in the arena. When you are was insane there was shit going on all over the place is. That's still their league. Is that syllabi shoot you? Oh Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah it's not. It's not like for the for the. Gimmick I don't kid normally would affect someone asteroid for a certain hands after the fire or like like try like what nine and there's nothing wrong with me and EMMA FACE DOT COM AC- to like him. I also still still not feud can remember I asked you. It was not straight after it on a win. Crazy may fighting at the time I was going to say and what about you and MVP because there was this little face off you had just after that way in and I know you're miser K. was involvement is that is a fight that whatever appeal to you. It's just such a big name and MVP competes at welterweight book. If he was willing to come up. Do you think that would be a good for you for you? I feel like I was saying to know about the style to to be not not nine. Lima Lima Fire. I don't look at things. Not that was good but the more you never technically took him out like either stupid get from MVP. The good is a good time in the syllabus Feel like manning mattress off. I don't just go charging into shot. So he wouldn't be able to come to me as well as content people. So let's just fight diabetes trusted. He better toys to make that. Would you be able to go below? Middleweight leaders such that. Let me stop you there. Don't don't even finish the question. Not At the moment because Utah heavyweight and I didn't want to mention it now our well for here. I'm the head of into but on the fifth of Obama's well running free miles like twenty minutes. Something I've never done that before. She's a weird weird one. I'm carrying a lot of weight but I'm running faster and heavier like things to go. So it's a bit weird so going up defer. I definitely interested in going up. The bureau is anyone when you consider going up like I mean is there is there. Is there an appeal and much there for you or is just the situation? You're in at the moment. Has you feeling like that just a minute? I'll train heavyweight some. When a four shot he was tricyclic. Jawan basic ally anyways so I wanted four heavyweight much trade. Some big guys told guys on Myself Long. Stefo possible to for me. I capture the midway title. I mean obviously the middleweight title. There was a book there as well. What did you think voided is that is that a is that a statement to where the middleweight division is here. The coin for contenders. Or or do you feel like Lee. Who says he's just a great superfood to make it a great fight to make me personally. I disagree Lima getting the talk shop. I feel like I feel like they should have started Thought started tournament on. If you want to compete as a midway five for the royal title just say Seattle matches off you know so I feel I would have been the best for division honest to wipe out of competition on a champion. We've seen it in the UFC before when when galway's win multiple belts it kind of halls division. Is that your fair hair? That like I mean you're you feel like you're you're just on the verge of breaking into the mix. Lima's welterweight middleweight champion. Not Delay Difficulty and he knows if he's just looking to capture the title and then you also if if looking to capture an alike defended. We don't always plans are but it's a matter breaking win is now it's not democracy but tough match-up for him in Musashi. A massive middleweight. So strong flies. I don't think it would be a difference between between bowl for them when matched up insurance favor. Anyone there like when you look at the you think. There's a clear winner there. Or How do you feel clear? I think it's I think about even fight on the both the both flat very flat Cook Clean Technique. I don't see anyone like Of departments offering. I think you'd five on five fine if it happens. It's it's interesting because I can remember. I spoke they. Toil makes before. And you're like yeah. I definitely I feel like a will be a world champion. I want to get the Roy money when I do for for that title and I are you on the contract right now that you'd be happy to fight for a world toilet among the contract now. I'm happy to fight or the old opponents I'm not going to be fine out of like Stereo like I said Billiton. Hold him I level Unlike slot massages One like I'm happy to fight. These is unfair contract unlivable five title CIOCCA. Extra extra fee credential. Is that what it is usually works. Yeah that's few extra M. K. Put on top of the show. Is that who you expect it to work? That's how you should work so listen and have that ready for me when it's talked about how that ready you know. Scott Coker is definitely a huge fan of the show and I wanted to ask you about this whole ebb. You're the episode. Was your brother and your see London. Like we felt like he was very hard by the fact he even at the. Komo make a statement days later day council the event Tyron Woodley now in talking every other fighter in the division. How do you feel about this? I mean most most no you to see this kind of like this felt like the one that was going to put your bro over. Everyone in Europe was really excited about it. I mean he went from being booed on the way to fight Gunnar Nelson to be in a real national hero in the lead up to this London for you and then of course it doesn't happen it's it's terrible for UK fines and the European finds in general. How do you feel about the situation? Like situation I was one of those ones where it was taken out of out of my Dwell on it that much but now fact Woodley is trying to best not to not to make it happen again. Just that that to me to speak some That's associated wanted to fly. I guess we'll make Ogonis alcohol. Another may not fly again or give him another big fight in my life of Kobe. Somebody else kids yes. Yeah it's it's it feels like you are in the UK you can't get the US that seems to be a big issue at the moment with the UFC and in Florida at the moment and then moving to foil and I guess the hope is that the international players will be able to go to foil. And who would you like to see him? Floyd of it's not even like I said the lights of Colby Kobe Giveaway needs to get to which he got shot hardly think of no one else that otherwise. Don't be fine for the sake of this fighting when when the only one way from a talk shop yes it's true. It's a very very delicate situation. I'm sure and also wanted to ask you about Leon dire until Jimmy. Manoa and of it seems like they're they're beginning the process of trying to speak about crime in their respective areas Birmingham. Of course where you guys are from Tila approval and then Jimmy and London and is this something. You'RE GONNA look to hell bellwether if you can't Fabien on this district and that's close to home for you. Guys then foreclosed all mom unfortunately like some kid lost his life last week. More stubbings On veto is going around on social media about friends at work with work in school. With clubs out of all these useful sort of the Irish ought to them they reach out to me. And we just said after the lockdown won't get won't get get together on a try. See what we can do of the platform that we have got tries to like what we must become like. We can bridge the table and what we can do so seditious finishes deaf or something me. And my reverend all the people look into Involving is a your gold coinage. Just Leon spoke last week on the show. He was saying you know we found are different parts. We found a way out of this and we want to show people that they can find a pot. They would as well. Is that what you guys are hoping to be? Coma EMBASSADOR FOR YEAH. That's that's why I didn't know no better to listen to them and someone that's like like I've been for you know we've been for mcstay my job aside we find out Passionate by not necessarily have escapes dot licensed starts lighting. He's just wide. But you feel like you're passionate about automony passionate about some months on stage. Let them fly. Why the passion about Abu Can invest the time into into that Robertson into the streets. Absolutely ma'am absolutely. And when when do you expect to get back to action is? That's a horrible question to ask you of your hair Danny whispers. Has Anyone Been Torch have given you any hints? Think think other word and they'll say yes. I was in use this time to decode those events now choice stop were in the US around July whereas in the UK that you yet because we govern more than one moment so it's rough awesome yourself because the new folk. Although I feel like you know seeing the the bans lifted and stuff rod then. They'll probably be looking to to make shows by her. September allowed the latest September. So let's anything before up. I'll be happy with you. Be Ready to call it ruin baiter. September two sounds used by first light heavyweight emerald. Has there been any food that you've particularly been craving since this happened like the bond to put on a boat trees down even getting stuck into what you know you don't have any. It's not me personally but it's not like meal. This nats knock knock on the sweets and chocolate cake snack. I eat good enough by a lot of sweets. So while Nutritious today in our by mate I need help the weights team. What's bad boy? Now for me out. He said you sent him your plan overlay run. I hope to get down to. Be outsourcing middleweight. Cross we gotta think middle before refused to be ruined by corona right. That's great speaking. I can't wait to see you again there and thanks for joining especially on a bank holiday on really appreciate it. Now thank you all the best. Stay safe thank you so much to Fabian Edwards. Said look forward to see him in action and listen or watch the shit out of that man the MVP. I WOULD WANNA shit out of it. Everybody wants up to middleweight. To to face him but God that would be a hell of a compelling for for Mr Bennett page on another task. He needs tests. He's only had one in his career. So let's let's be honest. I don't think Michael can go back to fighting journeyman effectively anymore. I think he has to go with the best bras. They have in battle-torn Dadis obviously Fabian. Edwards is right up there and he wouldn't watch that fight whenever ballots Botkin. It's GonNa be a while I'm interested in is whether ballot or putting on their airing. Some shows on Saturday. No yeah go sports same time as the UFC. Going head to head with the the L. D. League sport in the world scene that should be addressed in what questionable again from from battle-torn their their TV strategy. It still stop silly bizarre and I don until ever learn at this rate we've been we've been talking about this for too much all yours. Imagine that was sports unemployed thing to be honest. I think it's a positive thing that scoreboard seemed to be making a show out of it. Like at least a day when a coin of a M whatever it was. Ufc reloaded us to be on the show somewhere. I can't remember who it Bravo or whatever the hell was remembers am so it's good. I mean it's many watching executory duval annoying but I think it's a positive sign for ballatore. Sports supposed sounds like we can't be complaining the whole time but it's it is questionable waiting. They leave the Sunday night. More people complain the UNIROYAL. Yeah what we can be very their. Tv's deem as being a fucking disaster. Let's just be honest about it. It does book thing was or it. Wasn't that deal to be opened February. Is this a sign that it's it's on again like they've they've used? We can't get any information about these. Tv death it's been very very shady all along. So who knows you know? It could be a week to week thing. We don't even know him. Because it'd be little information available from from Dave he has own wondering at have you seen Donald Ceremonies interview with the SPN with Brad? Akimoto am I always. He's fighting this weekend against Anthony pedestal. At least scheduled. Avoid Anthony Beddis this weekend. Just wanted to ask you. Did you hear what he had to say about the McGregor voice? Where basically he said he didn't really show. And is that a surprise. You based on how much Shit Stephen a Smith took for. Basically signed exactly the same thing. Now it's not a surprise me K. Boy Am cable being this position before where this has happened to him and he's said exactly the same thing he didn't want to be there. He didn't enjoy the the bright lights on certain occasions and certain nights and he did the same thing against already eos in the arena. That night in Florida when it went down when he got up CD starched in the first round is but I think it was a minute into the first round and the same thing of Yamakawa Connor McGregor so no. I wasn't surprised on you know when Donald Tsang can like you question whether he should be settled in there am I in my opinion. He's lost I think. What does it as seven of his last eleven? It's a point in the interview about this. Might be my last fight or may be worn after this. I'm he's in a situation like that and he doesn't want to show up and he's dates two days before has he says turned the fight. He said he didn't want didn't didn't he woke up that morning and felt as though he just didn't want to be there he didn't want to be in the Octagon when. Connor was walking. Well what he? What do you Damon the sport monitor if this keeps if this is a reoccurring team and I don't understand his thinking ours? Logic at all times on dot interview sort of solidified more ports and Donald cerrone whether he should really be competing again. Because it's a very very dangerous place if you don't WanNa be there that's what I what I took from that. I think it's worrying to be honest. You a new one fighters Konate and saying it's not the first time he said that either you know. Yeah well look I I cried them. For 'em how candidy was am bull you know based on what he said. I can tell you. That's exactly fell. One was opened the rafters watching that with Jim Edwards on am was Jeez. You know Surani. Surani isn't as easy as people think years Dan as soon as McGregor on him are both in the octagon always said this is going to be quick gonna eat him alive it just just the way they looked when you're looking down at the body language that kind of avoid they were given off and I think I said this isn't this is going to be very quick. Yeah I think I was tax need fours before on the you know even notice that you walk in you know so I watch the Watergate. Nah this this is going to be early. This is this isn't going on. You can tell on the body language as you said Yeah McGregor's a smaller man and surrounding. I looked at them in the octagon felt like he was Dantonio Sesotho. Yeah do you know what I mean? Like like. He's physically smaller than the M? The void there were given the atmosphere surrounding them. Mcgregor ten tones big felt just the right on the wall. I think before forest balancing am I think Stephen Smith deserves a few apologies? Be Honest and he won't be you won't began. The job is to say is to speak your mind and he did that. Everyone ragging the shit out of them over a couple of months later. Surani basically says yeah. That's exactly how it was how it was feeling what he said. We didn't say what's didn't reference Stephen I of course but I mean it's crazy man. This the ravenous fan base. It's it's unbelievable am border. Yeah that's suppose that's all we got for this week to two guests this week. Yeah two guests to our guests. So what are you? GonNa Stop My own. Great at all Bengali. Weekend people are hard to get their all in the pace. You know what I mean as. We wish we will not a beer in two weeks or you go check. It's eight assignment two weeks and three days. Jeffey last night to your door. Borja proper door. It was treat them why they do to lear balls. What the boomers alright clear. Yeah so I am. Not a founded on instant heartburn non on COPA team only missing. I'll tell you the bid. It ought pizza last night on a few fresh chilies and stuff on it. And I'll Jesus this morning wasn't tasty deal was was robbed. Jalapeno all sorts of spacey's on a spicy delights trap door was well and truly opened this morning. Slurry PIT JESUS CHRIST. Six points there. Yes they had finished in Albany drinking water and then I went. There were ruined this morning thinking that was going to be. Grand was trying to get me four K. And I hit four four and a half peabody's said now folk there's me half Morton they'd ever can do. She's fair played. You know it wouldn't be forgetting. I don't about three or four hundred a week. Now Elaine's moyer fitness guru with mom and so at. Yeah it's going it's going well. Let's keep me fucking busy and I'll have plenty of time for that in the in the coming ones anyway. Yeah anything else you begins. I'm interesting are met. Your main event selection. Oh Shit Yeah. We have a quick sweep twitter carried. We we do have power Louis before we go. Let's do a pull up the car and all we have not many votes in the. What is the first card? You've got an Allante. Pt So we might as well give the louds. They're a bit of a breakdown all right. Well I start you find themselves just to get enjoyment just log on go on. Let's get foyt start with the main event. There we start with the start with the with the prelims prelims going going quick one word answer all right. Ryan spawned some Avi Spied Avi Rosa Mental. Avoid Mitchell. I'll go Mitchell as well locate price on luke as well have to haul Jack Array are hall. Jack Aubrey January Esparza Waterson. Good scrap chef for him Alexi. Nick I'll nick you think he's amidst them. Yeah of course he does. That's all he ever knows. You're GONNA take the CROCK oil job. People being excited Katara Stevens Jeremy Stevens ongoing case. Sorry I skipped Cook Cable. Who you're picking and this one after the last segment. Yeah of course pat us all day. I think he's going to. He's going to do it again. If you labor cakes takes only eight in the first couple of rains hardy decastro decastro. Yeah I think so as well. Listen I'll give credit greg hardy credit. A lot of people think he's improved awful lot. But Yeah I think the Castro yes definitely in Ghana Rosen. Strike Haumono feeling roses to get at the say here. But I'm going for a big money big Franca vicious Ko and he'll welcome Zeno Rosenstock property to the heavyweight division Henry Versus Dominick Cruz Hallway. God Saddam more exactly definitely. Yeah crews as well. I think the master as we head of the spending ringroad theory after his performance against E. J. dillashaw absolutely phenomenal motherfucker. And I'd like to see Henry Beaten. I'm knocking because he does my adding and all this show toy. Don't accept that you're so focused on called becoming his GR- great trice dog them Henry Shadow for God's sake cringe monnet. It's super cringe right. It's just want to want to fight girls and some concept triple C. Get the fuck Outta here. Mom wants to four girls by Bob. Dole's okay Tony Ferguson. Until JJ got TA TI verbs. Yeah I got actually hoped that well of the sport that it's so do I know. Listen I I do generally hope. I don't often say that. But I you know you have to feel for for Tony at times and GAITO. Mon- sits in a pocket with Tony as he's absolutely put them in there which I'm really interested to see though and I think maybe he said well mom just quickly before we get. Outta here you know. He said that you know he's trained and stuff you know. Are they going to be able to get so? I'd not rains. Are we going to see a lot of knock AIDS in here because they've been training probably in their backyard and hidden pods? And you know they're not going to be training but with mas different sparring partners and stuff. It's GonNa be really interesting. I think I'm on Saturday night to see that. The card actually pounds as if the fights go along. Only they're going to go along with all of these explosive let's What's your most likely leading headline coming out of the event so Neemrana? Oh God I don't even think about it. I can see I can see it but I don't WanNa say is not what it is the the apple car. I don't see the headline convey. I don't know why it just feel they. Do we see this right where we've seen someone go through this complete change in public perception like Tony. Ferguson is Baluch now more than he ever has been. If you win this He. Is You know on a huge for yeah. It just feels very anime for this to be taken away. Leeann Edwards Veteran Woodley. Being taken away was course worked whole life to get to this moment on Yoink. Yeah you know we're GONNA wake up more than we're GONNA WE'RE NOT GONNA have T.F. None could be on the table anymore. Stopdown Tony's GonNa win it is. It's one of those things. We'll we'll just have to wait and see I'm excited. I'm looking forward to it and we're yeah we're going to be graced as well with the the media. Shit online this week I. I'm ever she'll be she'll be a phone bill up. Yeah I haven't heard much about that. Probably won't date. I am yeah. Sure we'll see you go is next week to discuss Two more cards which would be happening and and yeah. I hope you enjoy the fights. I know you've been dying for them and I hope everything goes down very safety and soundly for over on the USC stuff on everyone else involved at liberty to speak to you as always partying were maximum grow and we'll probably be sick of ever again but his time next week so yeah. Love is all peace and joy daughter because.

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'I Figured It Was Going To Be A Horrible Death, And It Probably Will Be'

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08:57 min | 1 year ago

'I Figured It Was Going To Be A Horrible Death, And It Probably Will Be'

"Support for this podcast and the following message. Come from Comcast business having the nation's largest gig speed network was just the start. Now, they're providing gig fueled apps and solutions that exceed expectations and help businesses perform Comcast business beyond fast from NPR news. This is all things considered. I'm Mary Louise, Kelley Audie Cornish NPR and the PBS show frontline have been investigating a resurgence of advanced black. Lung among coal miners across Appalachia, we found that despite mounting evidence and a stream of dire warnings federal regulators in mining companies failed to protect workers. We're going to hear about this devastating disease from the miners themselves. It has drastically changed their lives their communities and their families. They told their stories to NPR's Howard berkes and Ohio valley resource reporter Benny Becker. We start in Leatherwood Kentucky, which is where Howard met minor. Greg kelly. Greg. I'm Howard berkes from National Public Radio. Great to meet you do you wanna go in and talk. I'm kelly. I mean would Kentucky. Well, I dropped out of high school. I've worked in grocery store, and I left. Go store went to comb on my lot coalmine was my my way of living. It was something is in our blood that we love to do. My name's Charles Shortridge, and I live in many view Virginia. And I've worked twenty eight years in the co industry, we love working in a coal mine says that's all we knew was hard work. And that's how we provided for families. I love Cologne. If I was able to day, I'd I'd be working in the mines. My name is Paul candor. And I live in a little town called homemaker Virginia. My full career was underground. And I run a roof boulder. Some a continuous miner. And I was a foreman. And you know, I just loved it. I remember when I was a little boy, I'd go my daddy. Sometimes we'll take me to to the minds where he worked at and may and I love the smell that. This just differs meal. I like to go smell one today is a good job. And. Good way to get to work on name's John Gibson. I'm from apple latch, Virginia. And I'm fifty six hurled outsing leaving Phelps Kentucky. My name is. Jackie gates. My name is Noah K counts. I live in Clinton Virginia. My name is Rodney Saxon combines was good in me. God's been even better on the ragnarok at it. You know, one thing that Moore was back on by anyway. What's it like now with the disease for you? Oh, it's terrible. Bill throw ROY. Pensa kentucky. I mean, it's unexplainable. It's I don't know. How to explain? It's a whole. But looking thing you got Nigel's that's on your lungs his calls from coda rock dust. You know, it's just like turn your loans to concrete you, stop breathing. And you just wake up. And are you are your lake I'm Jack horn. And I'm from camper Kentucky, the only thing. I could lack it twos. Like somebody ever hold you and underwater till us all going to drown when you come up. You're gasping for air. And that's about what he's like, you know, when you have a lung attack, and I hate it so bad I can understand times, but hits effective my Hobie. Tell me your name and where you're from Edward fuller from Steele Kentucky looking back on your mining career. Can you think about what it was that happened that might have caused your black lung? Yeah. The coldest dust out in dust all the time James El Monte in UNC why I come out of there. He's why does she go? Well, come out. Are you only to see me was nice? You just what you file off like. Cash. It's on ROY Mullins, ROY Edward Mullins from Clinton Virginia, you can smell it. You can taste it. And when you come outside, you get a drink of water coke, or whatever, you know, you hark, it up and spit it up your spitting up goups of code us. And that is embedded into your system. That's just the way it is really offering nines James Hayes now from Pat county Pinson, fort Kentucky, you know. I mean, it's dusty job as you stuck in the Komar, regardless. And if you stay long enough, you more likely than we get black line. I'm blamed the whole mound industry. You know? The company's Lau I'm Jimmy more player. I worked for little minds. I worked big minds. You got people out there that runs minds that all they want is co they don't care about violations. They don't care about nails. They just won't co co get to. Oh, get to. They don't care if you live or is through the name of the game was Runco. My name's Danny Thornberry. And I was voter, man. Scoop man drill men don't at all. And then I ended up being a form and. There was this lot allows that was really do. And and mine, coal profitably, ROY sports and rock Ascot, cookie. The company's has got so they're so slick I mean, you fudging everything if a hide and seek for real try try to actor complying, but long even inspectors. No, they're not and you had to they say it. If you didn't. Hey, your head mouse up. You didn't argue so I just get my mouth shooting and on. But I'll paid for long. Joe have not show every other minor has to just almost every guy that I know in our tears coal mine. The pastor. He had bite long Lille has long. My head bright long blow. I got older brothers. Got back on brothers. That's got my clone just to the whole jittery. You know, everybody around me the whole neighborhood. And I think Popol does and me since two thousand eleven I have lost seven friends, and no one that that's coming to you. It's pretty hard to take. I tried to talk my son out of it. I'll try game go to school. You know when he got out of high school. I said now, look you you're gonna go to school or are you going to get you a job in? He's I won't stay here in east. I'm going to go into work, no minds. So he did I say you'll be thirty years old would black lung. You don't want this? Now, Dan, I wanna work in a man's. I want to be like you. And guess what is that it's working in the day? You pick it dinner bucket up. Go into minds that's day, you sign your death warrant. It's plain simple. Out and I just sit down and have a good crack. It. Oh, that's how you do. Because this black home. His a deaths. It. But you know, what we just gotta take it one day at a time and hope for the best. Oh, probably praise. Good. Lord bless us to have another day. the voices of seventeen coalminers Appalachia all of them headed danced black long. NPR's cat ship necked produce this story as part of an investigation by NPR and the PBS series frontline about the failure of US regulators to stop the worst outbreak of black lung in decades the full documentary of our investigation Kohl's deadly dust airs tonight on frontline you can see it on your local PBS station. You're listening to all things considered from NPR news.

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How Roxodus nearly became Canadas own Fyre Festival

The Big Story

22:35 min | 1 year ago

How Roxodus nearly became Canadas own Fyre Festival

"We paid thousands of dollars to get into this are ex wifi and everything we still not have received an email attack tucker nothing to confirmed that it cancels i really because i motor my bracelets already are i had my you know i'm i'm still out the price of the ticket so far i'm supposed to be a food vendor there so i've got two thousand dollars the mood of greatly reduced the that no fuck were or a tiny community and ontario it was just about the biggest loudest thing should never happen i remember standing at the foot of the stage with a wave of rock music streaming screaming at you face now a match the whole weekend and rocks and the largest classic rock music festival you can imagine you're supposed to kick off the two days from now but it won't matter well a couple of weeks before for the festival rumors started just world and then just ten days out who's gone cancelled with simple statement posted to be internet now where a lot of questions not a lot of what would happen to be tens of thousands of ticket holder would already made travel arrangements paid for vip packages loaded cash on digital respect what would happen to the vendors who bought space and secured workers and purchased tons of food and what would happen to duty to promoters at the heart of that made huge promises sold eight grand idea and are now the subject of a police investigation and yes it all of this sounds like hdz canadian rock version of a documentary you might have watched on netflix where you're not far off welcome to the story behind rocks at us which nearly became canada's fire festival here be brought to you by him that's why i'm jordan rawlings and this is the big story john gibson is they reporter for berry today who's covering rocks at us back when it was still a real events going to actually happen sean hey how are you i'm great thanks i wanna talk to you today they about rocks a death yes everybody was too yeah so first of all i guess why don't you start for people who were outside of southern ontario although i gather people came from all over canada this thing but what was wrong so that's supposed to be so rocks this is supposed to be this mega rock concert that is just too good to be true obviously but just throw from the light applies to gonna be true aerosmith kid rock nickel back alice cooper i mean the biggest names the rock and it was it was kind of blew us away 'cause it was it up brill's creek road creek is known forever these amazing culture if they decide the stone i was gonna be a at eaton ville airport which is the other way and a nothing like this has ever happened there before so it was it was just this like once in a lifetime a culture that is gonna hit her area is everybody's looking very forward to it so do you remember hearing about it when it was announced like how big was the push bush behind this thing so yeah so when when they you know they said rocks is coming back to the few artists it was like wow that's pretty cool again right away you thought berle's creative again but when they mentioned eaten ville airport everybody kind of a okay stop secular think about it and they kept david the bears and the push all it was i i kept sealer social media i didn't really i don't really hear too much about on the radio i didn't hear the word a lot of ads all over the place so i i wasn't sure how that weather with a lot of buddy put it the advertising but i mean the push on social media took itself i be smarter smarter kind of pushed itself was was the bears were they went crazy with like a wildfire and that really it really truly was one of the gonna be one of the biggest concerts people had seen anywhere really and i think that's what what pushed it on social media how would they selling it on social media again like just the biggest rock costs you could they they actually they just kept say like rocks like rocks this rocks this ross's there's this big this word of they just stuck to everything so areas a human iraq sealer office i can't believe ross's kind of like i do aerosmith i think there's also a little bit later a the other bands knickerbockers of as kidder opposite of aerosmith is a little bit off you're not too long after so when aerosmith hit it really caldwell fire it was like holy smokes leaves this is this is huge so we will get to a exactly what happened in just a moment it was supposed to be this coming weekend an indie three weeks i guess before this all kind of exploded last week is there any skepticism flying around were there any a any rumors so truthfully what it was all of those first a myself i'm a pacifist so i was like there's no way this is it's happening and i didn't meet it like the magnitude of what we see it was just unbelievable like it was just look at the lighter it's on believably so that there were other people who are telling a little bit of chatter either the coffee shop of would sit and chat it up and they're like there's no way this could have happened vendors one road is if you've ever been up that way but highway twenty six going past that airport in several beach credit is the next big area it's too late it's one east one west that's it so the whole idea of you know what twenty thousand forty thousand people descending upon this air airfield in two ladies was the game but he kept saying there's just no way the permits are done and i think the permits scott finished on june light teats i believe that's pretty late in the game a at what they were finalize their is like wow okay this is happening it gets really happening a but there was a lot of skepticism and then for myself nobody really i mean you hear the different chatter people say he's the winner work because the highway the roads of the a but i was at i will sit at a coffee shop and berry on sunday and i got i got a i got a message from somebody who said hey i just wanna give you a tip there's no way this is gonna happen as like oh what's what's her name you know like why don't wanna go the rocket okay well then i can't use the story like i gotta tell you i was busy and they kept they kept going and they said can i call you i said sure so they called me up and he kept talk and he kept talking to love like taking those but he kept going with things like this this isn't just somebody talking so he went on and one of the things he said was if you go up there right now have you been up that way i said don't have enough that wait a little bit and he's like there's about ten to eleven to sixteen slap as they're not empty nobody's working anymore there's no work going all year feel there's nothing happening in that struck me as odd because were like at the time were like ten days away so i really paid attention passionate and you know we talked to some editors abide you know like they said the same thing if it's not gonna go while the wreckage we got nothing but but pay attention to it a this guy kept going and there was no you know a lot of times you think she's okay this guy's got a vendetta there's something he's not of us but it wasn't the case at all he this guy was very concerned about people's buddy monday evening i i have a story ready to go looking for it you know sub would tell me something that wildly wildly record's right in the chatter restarted happening online you'll hear hearing the lawsuits wall i hear rocks is gonna make it allows so i woke up early in the morning restarted really here that they were gonna call it so i feel i flew out to the airport and start ask her out they had no idea they they were like though we don't know anything so when they did cancel it or or i guess in the the day or two before if the cancellation became official is there any word a from the promoter from the event itself on the things might not happen because point i think people are still buying tickets and stuff yes that was the so there was nothing there was absolutely nothing from ross's thee a friendly ross's promoters a sf live is the name of the production company that was you kind of handling it a nothing from anyone is you're right when it came down that he was that it was cancelled i know i checked about two hours after but i heard it was a long time after that you could still buy tickets and it was like okay that's that's a key part like shut that down as were finding more and more now this decision was made the day before they were calling they were calling it the day before they they knew is done so there was a whole over twenty four hours were tickets were still be purchased in other that like the week before they kind of do they were shut down but but officially the word is there was a meeting in town are meeting of the area and a they were they were shutting it down and decided to make those with the next day and the boarding what really twenty four hours plus people were still buy tickets what kind of money are we talking about here for tickets and and other things that people were paying i know there was a there was a different time there were several several packages which also really kinda unbelievable unbelievable so there were there were players have a like a carnival a they would fly you in through by helicopter a because it wasn't airfield they could do that so there were there were different tiers fill out a couple of hundred for a ticket a maybe four five hundred forty for these special treatment with a tad 'cause you could get this this other thing you do is camp there and you get a special ted roof state of the art typed had a and if you did wanna keep the ten they were saying they were gonna donate it to the homeless so you could buy it and donate it that's all all of that so there were the one of the people i was talking to her husband's spent twelve hundred dollars on tickets and loading up the wristband suicide risk bad policy a scare the wristband you could add to it and then another few hundred on hotel add another couple of same thing except with the hotel they had a lot of v they were gonna get some cap space which they said was limited because so many people were doing that so yeah people were dropping a couple of thousand dollars on tickets and hotel when you start telling me about like they'll fly you in on a helicopter and you can get a vip packages and you're own canton stuff like you know given the last year d image that's immediately popping into my mind right obviously it was i think what's what's the hashtag i think it was the canadian fire fest the hashtag suddenly yeah you know part of it's like okay that's the that's the sexy term sure let's you know that's a great socialization but it really was without people actually getting there had people have gotten there sure it would attorney fire fast because it's not like it had adopted diminished but it happened in toronto a starter i've got a highway or get a hotel river right i don't know this is literally in the middle of nowhere this airports in the middle of nowhere it's it's too leads forest all around so all of these people would accused of this tell that's just got nobody there a so it would have would have absolutely been a fire fest situation without without being too dramatic it really wasn't so what was the reason given from the promoter why it was cancelled so they what they said was because of all the rain the grounds were no good could support the stage a the the dream engine in the grassy areas was just it was dangerous and they could move do with it they were trying to hold off it hopes that it will dry up right off the bat anybody lives in this area do that without right because we haven't had a good rainfall little while a what they were trying to say was the it was the raid earlier the spray still does not it makes sense because i only had a few significant rainfall but nothing to just stop production out of a concert but you'll a couple of months later well and you mentioned that berle's creek could just hosted the rolling stones a huge conscious the rolling stones i mean that was i mean they they added staging and to that i mean that is a huge production so they just had it and i asked that question to the mayor of clear view are clearly township but he said a you know the baby i asked him if that was possible at all and he he'll i tried to put out fires old i guess he said yeah yeah it's believable because this is agricultural country so it's hard to it's really hard to decipher safe and what the ground is gonna do it again i think maybe he was just tried that trendy calm everybody down and call the situation before he really knew anything i got airport i spoke to the owner of the airport over the phone aids i asked him what he thought about that and the other was asked if he is laughing and he said that's a great excuse any said i i really shouldn't sales i as i said for permission to all of the grounds in 'cause it's it's fenced off like it's fenced off and it's kind of a security grilled out to the airport and he said absolutely going to get you're photo saw a gentle jovi around and i was just show me where everything's gonna be the gravel road is gonna be all gravel and cement a and then i asked him that he knows those drowsy mad at anybody and he so that's a bunch of bunk he's like there's that's not true at all and he said not only are the grounds fine but that they were the people that were running the concert in there a long time for a couple of months before one of the main things they were doing was preparing the grounds so they had prepared they were fight they they really were fired that wasn't it and we've come to find out through i believe it was facebook posts cetera deleted a or words given between the two voters that wasn't the case because when i spoke to the owner of first of all the west wing circle document when i spoke to the owner of the airport he said the day before v gentleman from sf live whether it's both a number one a were tried to sell the land back to hit the b m f life and purchase a hundred and thirty seven acres of the east part of the airport last year a book november december maybe maybe even so they bought it they weren't just renting it for the festival dole they they bought enter prepared for festivals at or this festival at the very least of so they they purchased it ready to go there for okay they'll probably sold outland off the day before the culture was called they tried to sell it back and he didn't say the number but he said it was a way to hide and he wasn't doing that out assuming they were trying to cover their costs from the culture of by selling off to high so there's these allegations dollar back and forth they've the two gentlemen that run it has spoken a again i think they'd be in a facebook post suspended but one of them is blocked me so i can't see his his stuff but they're blaming each other now back and forth one mishandled buddy another one wasn't even in charge of that stuff users post about talent and it starts to fall apart for them so so they're not even blaming the grounds anymore no they they still they it's gone away from that those initial that's the jaw other website and and the whether they put out to the media i guess but now they've they've just kind of deterred from that they've they've completely off just played each other it's a pretty small community up there and this is a huge show have you talked to to folks who are preparing to work at preparing the supply it like what what happens when that goes away a week out what some of the people i spoke to his i spoke to a vendor who spends close the twenty five hundred dollars on his his his lot with the space that he was gonna have the hydro provided for the outlaw a so as far as him where he he said that he he basically said thousands of dollars a lot of in he has no idea how he's gonna get that back a he he sold that he sells non dairy frozen yogurt so not only did he spend all that money on the hydro in the in the law itself he had a whole bunch of product made 'cause he can't make it on the spot so here's a here's a ton of product he's gotta get rid of that he said fortunately he thinks he could sell it off he he hasn't frozen you could sell it off at different festivals over the next little while but as far as the lot in the hydro stuff he doesn't know how that's gonna work of any hasn't heard anything back about that yet but people working it as far as workers we haven't heard of anyone yet we haven't spoke to anybody about that i doodo actually whether they can split i tried every day was with the board he was so easy to get a hold of someone out of email that we that was provided when they announced the cancellation in heard nothing back until just two days ago a in a generally best back and said you know thanks issue but i actually don't work there anymore my final duty is to mentioned the cancellation and put that out there in he had heard anything else at that time from anyone in bed as a kind of just with blake for him as well so is anybody 'em obviously not the promoters but as anybody else stepping up to offer refunds are or any of these people get their money back the feel good stories kind start now event bright the the ticket places that bright of have already begun the began yesterday the day before refunding people in the word is their refund but i gather they're gonna refund everybody the buddy a it's gonna take a little while the people were it's really starting to snowball and win a soothing a lawsuit hopkins was i don't know for sure but of the city some things have happened here they will go after the buddy loss so the people that spent their hard earned money are getting money back i i'm hearing tells me about evil is well off all day yesterday of someone who said he i haven't heard anything back judo anything and six minutes later they said never by just got my refund so the refunds you're coming in fast and furious and i'm sure you know if anybody has a god of yet just be patient it's gonna take a little while but apparently it's moving pretty fast at event bright i reached out to the a and there they said they'd get back as soon as they could but they it just seems like they've really stepped up and they're really healthy people that and then they'll go after the promoters to try to get their money yeah but then they'll go after try to recoup the loss is a but there they said they're they're important thing was a lot of people spend thousands of dollars hundreds of dollars and they should get it back and not have to worry about going after people they can't even track down so what happens extra wait and see what we are young a wait wait until investigation until of again with whoever they're investing we could always assume a that because there's two people at the the two people that have at sf stands for a bike in fab live so mike dunphy had found the raj there are two of the guys that that read this and the other two guys now they're going after each other blaming each other like dunphy duffy is what we're hearing is he was like as of last week was no longer she threw his own words which no longer without a life of and then you start you know someone look at that and go so so he's a former employee okay and what we do know is if you are a looking into a former employee of life it could be anybody but the rumors start it could be him because that's when it sells like but until we hear about from you'll bp we don't know we just don't know anything or what's the legacy of this a festival up there well you know i think i don't know the term for it i can never remember when it but because it's happening right here we'll look at it like oh man will realize we forget that a lot of people are lists like looking at and this is a huge deal all over and i think we have to step back and look at this and go this is horrible this is a this is a horrible thing that happened at anytime a college it's gonna be held at ease ville airport a or the grounds on who by the way are great people it's it's not their fault everyone's gonna go all deborah rocks is likely someone said to me and i don't know if you you remember but years back years and years ago the big a marijuana pot plants in berry hit the ball boston's will bull supplant oh i do remember that yeah yeah the big and i mean i'm telling you it's become you know a lot of people that moved here in older crowd they don't even wanna talk about it it's a it's a state of the history of the city and there's other people who like that's the funniest thing of all time like nobody died nobody but he got hurt what a funny story and i think that roxette us will do that as well a i just say it especially because it's become really lighthearted more so because people are getting their money back because of people like companies like i've had breaking stepped up and i will say i wanna mention to this because it'll show you how the huber how people are trying to get her out or how people try to make this a better a better feeling of it on thursday thursday would have been the kickoff thursday the eleventh a happy there's a little bar at be evil airport bar restaurant call bagger there's gonna be a concert slash get together called the rock so bust a there's a facebook page called rocks at the festival that never happened before the twenty thousand wish it did a and there's gonna be a get together for people who about or who maybe lost out on tickets or people who just want to have a good time and from what i gather try to get a cover band or two of some of the big names i think i heard the kid a cover band for kid rock was gonna perform a and they're they're having a good time they're gonna go out there thursday they're gonna have a laugh and get together and and just kind of how some flooding in a button a ton of people become friends over this and and i'd get together with this but it shows i guess i canadians uber you know it it things bad but it's it's not that bad regular buddy backs let's have fun with sean i'm so glad you guys are making the best of the best thanks for joining the problem things will have young john gibson is a reporter for berry today and that was the big story more from us you can head to the big story podcast dot cia where you will find precisely zero stories like this one lots of other good stuff you can also hit us up on twitter at big story f p m and you can rate us review s

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Struggling for Breath in Coal Country

The FRONTLINE Dispatch

17:31 min | 1 year ago

Struggling for Breath in Coal Country

"Yeah. I'm rainier Anson executive producer of the PBS investigative series frontline. And you're listening to the frontline dispatch this time in collaboration with NPR the voices of coal miners and Appalachia coal miners suffering from black lung disease, the miners more than thirty of them were interviewed by NPR's our burqas and his colleagues over the past year. It's part of our investigation into the resurgence of the worst form of plaque. Lung Howard ask the miners about their many years mining coal about the disease in who they blame. The frontline dispatch is made possible by the Abrahams foundation journalism initiative committed to excellence. Support for frontline dispatch comes from the Massachusetts General Hospital cancer center, early detection is key to catching entreating many cancers. You can learn more about innovative programs at Mass, General dot org slash cancer. Mass General cancer center every day amazing. Greg on Howard berkes from National Public Radio. Great to meet you. Do you wanna go in and talk? I'm Greg Kelly and low would. Well, I dropped out of high school. I've worked in grocery store, and I left to go store went to comb on my coalmine was my my way of living. It was something new is in our blood that we love to do. My name's Charles Shortridge. And I live in my view Virginia. And I've worked twenty eight years in the coal industry. We love working in co warious coal mines. That's all we knew was hard work, and and work, and that's how we provided for families. I think it's a lot to do with the camaraderie of the people you get closer to the family on as ROY Mullins ROY Ebbert models from Clinton Virginia. I love coalmine. If I was able to be working in a match my name is Paul candor. And I live in a little town called ho- Nacre Virginia. My full career was underground. And I run a roof boulder of some and a continuous minor. And I was a form, and and you know, I just loved it. Good way to get to work names. John Gibson from Appalachia Virginia. A different world. It's just unexplainable. If you ain't never done the Smeal. I memorized a little boy I'd go my daddy. Sometime. We'll take me to to the mines where he worked at. I love the smell that drift mail. And and everything is just to differs meal. I like to go smell one today. I mean Pacers. Don't do no Justice. It's just something yet to see being are doing. It's piecing quiet in the Goma's dark. The way to comb out was my name is sherline green. Fifteen years on the ground is the place in the coal mines and on one person this world banner, it's guide in you. Couldn't do the the mountains and nobody been before sep- guy in you. Evanger, like big you. My name is Rodney section. So, you know, coldest in Eubanks news combines was good guys been even better on the Ragu padding. But the one thing that was back on but got anyway. Now. Oh, it's terrible. Bill can't from Pinson. Support Kentucky Bonker ladies unexplainable. I don't know. 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Can you think about what it was that happened that might have caused your black lung? Yeah. The coldest dosed. What are your a billion scoop man roof voter man ball's late, Trish and hit? No matter you're going to get exposure to out in dust all the time. Jane's L Monte immu- in fee were there as white is. She's go. Well, come out. Are you only see me was mice? Sometimes you can't see. I mean, it's the dusty. You can't see it's like being in a room full of smoke. It be just like walking into a fog Bank hurled outsing, leaving Bellevue Kentucky. Just what you'd fall off like age. It's the you could smell it. You can taste it. And when you come outside, you get a drink of water coke, or whatever, you know, you hark, it up spit up your spitting up goups of code us. And that is embedded into your system. I speeded up constantly. I'd be home over the weekends and blowing. It both fear cold us. It's just the way it is. Really? I think. 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Cutting really do and and mine coal profitably, ROY sports rock asking cookie. The company's has got so they're so slick menu budgen everything if a hide and seek for real try try to actor compliant, but long. But even inspectors, no, they're not and you had to say it. If you didn't. Hey, your hand you can't out. You didn't they argue? So I just kept my mouth shooting and on but Vert long Joe have not show ever other minor has to I don't fault anybody. I think. It's come a long ways. And I don't know where they could go from here to make it better. I really don't Bruce knobs Niner from white bit the companies that I worked for none of them were blatantly putting you into an environment that day node was harmful. I think it's just the the industry working. I don't think that you can work in the coal industry and expect let's different. I don't know about that. To me, the minor should be protected. I'll call a name his background. I'm from ppac area. Mcken county where you gave a hundred tipsy alive. It's tougher. Almost every guy that I know when our tears Komar. Or a strip. His trip. A lot of people say go church wisdom as co monitors. Pastor he had on. Leo has long. My head bright loan. Glow. Brothers got back. That's got one and just the whole jittery. Everybody. The whole neighborhood since two thousand eleven I have lost seven friends. Where he died up like crazy right now. Nobody wants to have. But it's par- laugh, but to go the way I saw my brother go don't feel good to know how you're going to go. I don't think I'd be ran that long. This Leo's Lii in. Oh, it's like cancer silent killer as so killer. You're just like only deathbed, you know, you can stop breathing that in your day. Wayne burial leaving booking candy Virginia. It just. Nobody looks forward today than you know, it's a common at worries me. It's rough. You can't you can't enjoy in a last week internal turn now. Oh, you blind. As you head. You know? Can go grab mountains are go fishing. And I used to love to cut split firewood. I can't do that couldn't play ball of my grandsons. It's it's sitting gotta go through it. I feel like failure. I feel I actually feel like I'm doubting Chhaya, buddy. If you're lucky useless. That's useless. It's what you fear right us. They feel. Hey, you just can't do it. No more. And like, I say. Pretty hard. I just sit down have good crack. That's how you. Because it's black home. His death. Sit. All the do over. I would do everything over even knowing how come tell you truth. I would love to be doing today, but I wouldn't advise you or nobody else to go back in the Marlins go on the street. I tried to get my son try to keep him out of the man's. I said, look, you you go to school or are you gonna get your job? In. He's stay here. And he's going to work minds. Now, Dan, I wanna work in a man's. I won't be lackey. And guess where it's working intimate, but he made his decision. Just like I made man. I just hope I don't have to put him in the ground. You know, it actually helps the minor self do even get voice things out that really bottled up inside of right? Well. Well, I really appreciate you speaking with law. Appreciate you. Appreciate you have the pleasure sharing with you. You can see more of Howard's reporting on black lung disease, and our film Kohl's steadily dust streaming at frontline dot org. This podcast was reported by NPR's Howard, burqas and produced by catch shook net and a coal beams bore also contributing NPR were adalina land CNE's coaching nine and Robert Penn in CASA the senior supervising editor for investigations NPR is Robert little additional interviews by Elaine mcmillian, Sheldon. And by Bennie Becker of Ohio valley resource for PBS's frontline. Andrew Mets is our managing editor Lauren Ezell Kinloch is our senior story of Sarah Childress is our senior reporter editor Amy gains as our series coordinating producer at our special counsel. 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Texas politics and rural concerns

Other Side of Texas

52:39 min | 1 year ago

Texas politics and rural concerns

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And telling friends says always that you tune in to the other side at Texas other side at Texas dot com. The podcast is will I'm your host. Jay, west Texas, leasing rawdon along here in the racer car wash studios racer car wash, you know, where I get my car. My truck washed go do when I do. One of five convenient locations across the hub city for the best wash around guaranteed racer wash dot com. Big weekend. The kids have been out of school forever since like December twenty two finally getting back into the move in the morning if your dad like me, you're getting ready for those six AM mornings where you're on six thirty get up. Maybe read a little bit of the good book, or whatever you might do and be ready for those little ones is you get on with the schedule that begins tomorrow morning. Best of the weekend right here. It is you've seen the meme gas below two dollars. The Cowboys are in the playoffs is at the nineteen nineties in what a weekend it was. If you're a Cowboys fan, I'll tell you how became a Cowboys. Always the moose worth of dogs Cowboys fan. But you know, this is something of learn about parenting and being your own kids in especially my own kids. You do with kids what she loved doing yourself in. Whether that's fixing the truck or doing a little carpentry, or whatever it might be board games. I don't know what your bag is. But I love to watch football on Sundays, and you know, not devout Cowboys fan, but the boys my twin boys began to really catch onto football. And it's one thing that they can do at three hours. They can't sit in listen instructions for three minutes, but they can watch football game for three hours in. So we kind of became haphazard Cowboys fans and now they're huge Cowboys fans. And tech followed. But when I've just learned is that some of the best parenting because kids spill love TI in me in some of the best parenting is just getting them doing what you're doing. And so the Cowboys the become our proxy at the house. We're big for all they know I've been a huge Cowboys fan my whole life. Really, I dislike that the light in their eyes. And they all have the jerseys and Jack has Dak Prescott and Charlie little Charlie is co Beasley and I can't remember who Sam is right now because it was Dez Bryant in Mont the Amari Cooper. I can't remember. But they love it. And how about them Cowboys beaten the Seahawks and now onto the Rams next weekend? Love it. Hope you enjoyed it. No people like to be in tagging towards the Cowboys van tagging mystic. But then always says that they have much deeper issues than just opposing the Cowboys. Because folks like the Cowboys. Something that we've not done in. By the way, we have Gore's county judge. We had Lubbock county. Judge Curtis parish on the show on Friday talk him from more of an urban county perspective. But when it give you the perspective of rural county judge out in Garza county, Lee Norman county, judge Garza county is gonna be on with us in about ten minutes. From now to give you a little perspective of what county officials are walking into as Texas legislature convenes tomorrow in what they expect in a what their problems are in. We tried to give the other side of Texas view here. And we'll do that with county judge Lee Norman coming up. But something that we've not updated you on in some time in one of the pleasure is to play this little Diddy. Again, we had some rigor dykes news for you Reiter, gate and try to get that up and. Hold on. Being a little bit of a pest are. Exclusive didn't just. What do you got in hell for two that was the name of our little Diddy? What do you got because that's the whole question right now play is what does Reiter dykes have this from everything Lubbock, our friend James Clark rigor dykes on last week responded to Ford Motor credit saying impart regular dykes is not dead in quote, quote, in quote, Ford foul the motion on Friday that would for all practice, practical purposes, shutdown Reagan dykes, a judge has not ruled but regular dykes disputes the claims made by Ford and not just claims but several claims. Several rigor dykes companies filed for bankruptcy on August one. If you've lived under a rock, more rigor, dykes companies followed suit, November rigor dykes has was accused of default and outright fraud by Ford while in bankruptcy. Rigor dykes was placed under control of chief restructuring officer a plan was developed to sill rigor dykes dealerships at local option or Ed auction in that plan fell through. A second plan has been in the works. The McDougal dykes hewing group plan if approved nets Mark McDougal idle Lubbock in that is. That is die cts. Rick dykes, of course. And then hewing is a big auto dealer out of Dallas. If approved that plan would capitalize rigor dykes twenty million dollars. The plan includes participation by regular dot by Rick dykes, excuse me. In Ford's motion on Friday did not cast that possibility in complimentary terms quote record. I is out of money record. I said rigor dykes is not without a plan to restructure the debts and capitalize business contrary to what is said by Ford credit rigor dykes said a formal version of the McDougal dykes Ewing plan would be filed. What would be tomorrow in court? It would also include a loan from international Bank of commerce, regular dykes said affords motion on Friday that it. Should be denied record. I said import in here this carefully. We'll break some this down sadly Ford Motor credit as chosen to take regular dykes into a far sell liquidation, which record is thinks would help no one including Ford credit itself. This forced liquidation will only make worse the damage caused by actions taken in early August two thousand eighteen which creates a fundamental question. If Ford credit seeks to bury rigor dykes along with any hope of recovery and resolution to claims in concerns of most if not all of the creditors, consumers, who's taxes, title and license fees have yet to be paid current and future, employee's landlords future. Car buyers manufacturers and others, including Lubbock and it surrounding areas. Then why? And it's real hard. It's real hard at this point. I like I remember doing this program and taking a lot of heat whenever this all came out of the gates because people thought you're really going against a lot of these employees like couching it about will this is about employee's. No, this is about gross negligence and fraud and they'll have their day, and they are having their day in court. But this is what I was always concerned about where the innocent people who are getting screwed on their sorry for my lack of of Sajjan that. But my my concern that a lot of people like I've had three people last week asked me, I asked this you listen to audio with Curtis parish. I had people asking me what do I do about my lease because my VIN number is wrong. Who was running that was that Ford Motor credit that that made those problems was that negligence up front, I think probably rigor dykes implied back to the story. That Ford's own employees are not innocent in the demise of rigor dykes. It's not the first time rigor dykes as said so in the bankruptcy process. They go onto name Shane Smith who. Was running. Let me look. Of former chief financial officer, Shane Smith in his longtime friend Gary Byrd, who is the Ford credit employees who managed rigor dykes accounts with Ford credit, Mr. birds son worked for regular dykes without the ownership groups knowledge and how he was. They just questioned the nature of that relationship a lot. It just seems a lot of things going on for such a big ambitious group. There was you know, you don't know a lot about leases. Neither do I believe that was the name of the the commercial. But it seems like you don't know a lot about XYZ. Neither do I seem to be the case as you sit on the record is front. What do you guys gonna get into a commercial break? Tell you what you should get. It was some fine commercial advertisers with us, and we have Garza county judge Lee Norman coming up after the break. We'll see about ninety seconds from. Some. All stars of been. Yeah. Go out to the phone lines. When introduce judge Lee Norman county judge of Crosby Crosby Garza county judge how you doing. I'm good. Thank you. We appreciate you making time to come on the show here. So Garza county four listeners is just a Jason to Lubbock county to the southeast and that would post in to the southeast, right? Eighty four. Yeah. So tell us about how many folks she have in Garza county judge. Wing. Our industry if you will is a prison in so grand puddle prisoners, and all we have sixty four hundred people in fifteen hundred seventeen hundred those are federal prisoners when we have about forty eight hundred folks living in the candy and in the city of post, otherwise, okay? So but posts being the major your little loan rural metropolis, it's the only city in Gaza Canada. Yes. Hey, judge tell me what the deal is. By the way. Let me just throw you curveball. Sometimes you we go to Abilene lot on vacations. Vacations. I I mean holiday on like thanksgiving, especially what do they narrow it down the one lane as you come back into post. That happened recently for construction. So it's like any construction all over. Like, these examples of weather pretty easily, but anywhere, and there is construction we have had some. I'll tell you right partnership with Tex because if we have an our merger -mergency management folks are working hand to glove to make those emergency and service law enforcement, folks safe. And so there's a variety raisins, but a lot of times, it's just maintenance. So it's not intended to be single lane at any one time. So we came down on what's the population of Garza county, excluding prisoners forty eight hundred or so about forty eight hundred so they're forty eight hundred people let's say a couple thousand voting election. How many of them do you know, personally? I decided all of them. I'd say no, most of the people I've been here all my life. Yeah. And so you've been judged for twelve years in you're heading into sixteen year consecutive term. Right. Okay. So tell us a little bit about rural counties. We heard from a county judge Curtis parish in Lubbock county. He called Lubbock Ruben county than it was rural and urban. But you definitely have a rural county talk to us about things that you see on the day to day basis because I always lay down this premise that Lubbock does not have category gates around it that there are the good things can come to fruition in the region in bad things in the region can come to fruition within Lubbock counting the city proper. Tell us a little bit about the dynamics of running accounting light, Gore's accounting. Thank Curtis is. Right. It's. His last with a lot of rural counties that support it. But last I is so that said in Garza county, we have a lot of traffic count going bad lingering, Dallas. Or going east west? But we're a lot of agriculture about seventy percent ranching. And then the prison. But also lots of. Year a lot of Orleans we're down substantially on that. And so we kind of have flirted with the punches and they be as conservative conservative as we can. But we're charged with complying with the constitution of the state as well as statutes that are passed. And so that's I charge. And so. So as that comes to bear as the budget's concerned, what are your primary budget concerns in rural county like Garza. Well, as I said we have to comply with today's alarm or the state daling with everything for misdemeanors to felonies, we get some funding from the state. And a lot of support. But still are charges to provide the courthouse. He up 'rational provide every elected official, which they're fourteen of us with the funds required to do their specific job. Yeah. And either. Yeah. So those specific jobs range out in what budget categories. Well, you mean all the jobs go from just to the pace to have to Commissioner keeping the roads up. Okay. I had do duty this afternoon. So it's quite varied. And it can vary. It very lot in rural Texas and those juvenile diabetes. They may be ever few months. You know, in some of those are all counties, but we still have rather full-service. Yeah. So judge Norman in session. It is judge Lee Norman with us out in Garza county giving the rural perspective on issues judge wanted. She talked to us a little bit about what you said seventy percent ranching, but lots of rural counties are run by commodities. Give us a little sampling of where the revenues come from in Garza county. Well, revenues from the cattle industry primarily cotton in the farming areas. Some maize drip, irrigation is becoming more established. Just I see that all across agricultral spectrum is trying to grow into and learn what the new science is. And and how to improve and be more efficient. So I'm proud of those guys for what they're doing. Have all businesses and the service industry to which is very stadi- predominantly stayed in the county all depending on the cycle of the oil market. Yeah. We entered the show, and we said the Cowboys are in the play offs and. Gallon of gas is below two dollars must be the nineteen nineties. But that doesn't always bode. Well, does it. Well, it it doesn't. And and those old man understand that just like the cattlemen understand the second full market in in the cattle market. And and so do the farmers. That the end if we know that's coming way or trying the commissioners are specifically trying to manage our budget and live within our means. How do you know? It's coming judge. Just by the history of it. What was all two months ago, sixty dollars? And now, it's forty five. I mean just that cycle. You know is going to happen again for what raisins and win. I don't know anybody that knows that. But that tends to be the trend. Cotton is the same way it's not particularly high right now, but we just learned to try to manage long-term. So judge here's what I'm gonna go with you Lee. Norman with us here on the show. A big issue coming into this legislature? That kicks off tomorrow is a two point five percent camp. Meaning that local governments whether that be city or county governments hold Robak elections before property tax revenues can increase two point. At least that's going to be the initial two point five. Percent or more from the previous year currently is signed petitions can call for lectures at eight percent or more judge you sit there, and you look at your budgets and you look at what's proposed currently today. Eight percent, and it would draw down the two point five percent much rural perspective on that. Well in back in fifteen and sixteen and those two budgets, and I know we were very heavily dependent upon all. Our values drops about sixty five percent. That is devastating. We were pushing a billion dollars. And today we've recovered just a little and we're back at five hundred and seven million. So we're half of what we were. And I write tax rate has increased about fifty percent. So if you all the numbers, I think we're about even while trying to still provide the service required of us. In until little bit about the services, though. Talked about four go ahead. Mason's doing their work on the roads. There's your after his work twenty four hours three sixty five emergency management doing the same thing. I would assume that the numbers I get from ambulance service and emergency management is probably thirty percent of our fire calls emergency management calls her own highway eighty four for variety raising. So they're committed very committed to taking care of what what they're called to do. I've got data related that that I'm working with my Senator and representatives on and others that'll that we can look at that. We're very unusual in the fact with all market changing. So, but I can show where many of our expensive has has gone up expenses have gone up double digits in the last. I've got some numbers over the last seven years. It's just the survey and doing well. Salaries employees or least those increases. So there's some of the things we tried to manage I would like to have a sex badly to do that. And my neighbors different issues. So I don't think it's helpful to put a cap on the property tax revenue at all I'd have to know where the real problem is. I don't see it in Garza county. We like I said over the last seven years we've adjusted greatly with the loss of revenue and the slowed. I mean, limited the client and the tax base, which puts more. Of the tax burden on the homeowner. The rancher and farmer bet. We're not problem. Where is the problem? That's the question. I'd like the legislature to look at the go into session Tamara, and I'll have the opportunity to sit down with some great senators and a couple of days, and that's what we want to talk about. So like the problem being across the state why you'd wanna put a capital two point five. Tell me this judge. There are a lot of people who would be listening who say in a lot of opponents in legislature that say why not just put it up to vote. What are you scared of? I'm not asking you what you're scared of. But the two point five what would be your concern of having a rollback rate election. We've had rollback right elections in Garza county before. And I think we did the best job. We knew how to do to explain to the people your government. You're kinda government costs money look at your tax Bill and other than the healthcare district. We're the smallest tax Bill. You're going to pay. We've we're doing all these services. Do you support us or not? And fortunately in those two instances they did. Because I believe they're going to believe our local, folks. And I think that's gonna speak well all over west Texas in this district when when the issue comes. But why do we need to be addressing that in real west, Texas? That's again where is the real problem? I don't see it being real west, Texas where where where's the problem? What's the question? We're going to start looking at. I see and you can say the huge that's cost in higher education. And I can't even begin to talk about it. I don't know about it. But I just do understand. I think county government. And so let's look at where the problems are. That's what I'm asking. So runaway costs in education publican higher. You know, when I let the cannon costs also look at what the state what statutes ask us to do take the Sandra ban act, very important. My share of just jumps all over that. And takes it so serious to protect. Dan, inmates and the. Jailers deputies there, but that ED's a huge cost to our operations. And I am most proud that many times. There's where there's no cost. Funded. Mandates is the problem. Live with two and a half percent if you'd cap expenses. Yes. Or United unfunded mandates? And and a lot needs to be done. So realize we realized that but don't hamstring us on the revenue side. Work with us. And and in our state folks, do that they are trying to work with us. Let's talk through just for example, in this is something I've written before budgetary algebra of non-growth populations lack in rural counties kept tax rates in but they don't count account for Radic mineral valuations plus potential natural disasters. And even the I'm sure something that makes you cringe judge capital murder trials, those are all very expensive dock to about you mentioned the price of oil. But let's say there's a two point five percent on cap rate in right now, let's say oil comes in at sixty dollars a barrel next year that shifts to eighty dollars a barrel. What does that mean for that two point five talk through that? You you would think that. I think what we're looking at is not the. Various life. You why should in minerals and cropland and ranchland it is the net. The net revenue you get start with next year. The fact of right? And so there's your benchmark to begin again. There's two and a half percent would start right there. Okay. He goes. That it just a. Just a few thousand dollars per each. Point. Where you go to hers county, it's in the millions for that one point such an extreme. Again, I'd like signed that where the problem isn't this attack? The problem. You know, let's talk about that problem. You have Tom to hang with us through this next break judge. Let's talk about that problem as we come up out of the break and get into this about ninety seconds feedback. With judge Lee Norman there in Garza county stick right with us here on other side at Texas on the phone with us is judge Lee Norman out in Garza county judge couple of questions lead that you're making time to stick over into the next segment. You talk about a dinner fighing the problem, and I presume what she mean is from the rural in for listeners. Let me just make time out here judge. This is going to be a major issue in the Texas legislature. Something a lot of deals are going to be making. If you're interested in vet school. If you're interested in a lot of other issues, this is going to be a primary issue as we head in judge whenever we say whenever you say dinner by the issue. Hugh is there anything in particular that needs to be a dentist? Well, they later she up indicate in last session drastically, and it'll be back their property taxes are too high. I can agree with that a hundred percent. But let's look at what those are that school. Canty cities have care. And as I mentioned earlier cities are can't Chinese or might normally the smallest of those if not maybe they have care district right under it. So I don't know where the problems are. I agree that expenses are growing. I see it in the bureaucracy of our state government. I see it in the bureaucracy of our national government. How many times are we told where we have to do this because the feds are on us great excuses. But I really take issue when you say well at the county problem where we're doing what we're asking the state what the constitution and statutes dictate and bureaucratic and the. All the different offices of your opportunity if you will. The order. They send us the following through the Santa band actors. I mentioned in so many other things maybe they're necessary. But we get no funding with it. But we're probably find a way to do it. And so our local tax payers pay for those those extra bells, and they keep growing that's the issue. That's the problem for Garza county. Whereas whereas the exhibit gross. Maybe that's where we need to be looking. I leave that to the legislature to find that answer. So let me ask you this judge. And here's a proposal. That's been thrown out in from Onder standing talking to people in Austin. This is a very likely situation that you could go from that Garza county in certain population bases, let's say a hundred thousand or less could be exempted from two point five. So you go from eight percent in Garza and just a few miles to the northwest into Lubbock county where it's at two point five percent, which you'd be okay with that. Do you think that that there ought to be two different laws effectively in place for two different Texas counties? Are you still back to find the issue in resolve that and make one for all? I see. The counties of five thousand having such graphically different issues, in of the counties over a million, and that's the Harrison Travis and those others, and they're about ten of those or close to it. That just such such different scale. We don't that's what I said earlier ones fraction of of your property tax there or multimillions in Garza county. It's just a few thousand. So it's sets drastically different scale. You know, I think that's part of the quandary. So is it safe to say, you is a rural county judge oppose it all together. Or are you willing to be brought into a carve out? Pose the property tax process. Support. I support our legislature. Finding ways to cut costs and that may be in certain. Area about schools regulation of cities and counties. Those things matter I think that's where we ought to be looking. Okay. Well, judge Lee Norman we've pre sheet you making time here anything else. She went to throw in. Like you have time, and and this is very important issue. And we're working fair constituents because they're paying the Bill. We understand that you know. Well is things move along. We hope you'll check back in here on the program. All right. Good to be with you, judge Lee. Norman there in Garza county wanna get into a couple of things when we come back one. The controller has Glenn Hager has said there's one one hundred nineteen billion dollars available for the next biennium. What does that mean for schools and then close out the program, but gonna get in missed are little bit late on this break stick with us in get into those issues. If you wanna know what's going on your tuned into the right place, we roll along here on the other side the right back with you. Lubbock foul room dot com. Going into the legislature, something we always talk about where's the money in? That's what's going to govern as the legislature kicks off tomorrow. This about five hours ago is we broadcast live about five forty five pm, Texas controller Glynn Hager in this isn't important issue. If you wanna be a real Texas geek. Bob, Bullock was head this position people pronounce it comptroller, but in the old English it is pronounced controller. So you'll hear people talk about the comptroller. But then you'll hear other people I believe Ross Ramsey does this which is why I love Ross Ramsey says controller. No p they're just in writing controller anyway, Texas controller Glenn Hager announced Monday that the state will have one hundred nineteen point one billion dollars for lawmakers to us in putting together the state's twenty twenty through twenty twenty one budget. This by Edgar Walters at Texas Tribune. Time. When legislators are vowing to spend more money on public schools in slow the growth of Texas property tax bills. The state should have enough money at its disposal to do just that. That is the news predictions, hold true, Texas controller Glenn Hager on Monday offered cautiously optimistic outlook for the Texas Konami telling lawmakers they have about eight point one percent more state funds of able to budget for public programs primarily schools highways in healthcare in twenty twenty in twenty twenty one Hager projected, there would be about one hundred nineteen billion dollars in state funds. Available for the next two year budget up from one hundred ten billion in the last two year budget cycle, but falling oil prices. In the last month along with heightened uncertainty in the US economy, and international financial markets. Led Hager to deliver a cloudy forecast with some trepidation. So hager. Is making a prediction and he's sitting out of the line on this in. It's all just guess, but it's like eighty percent guests, and so you have the cloudy port quote remain cautiously optimistic but recognize were unlikely to see continued revenue growth at unusually strong rates. We seen in recent months. He said in the number years win the legislative branch of Texas State government convenes in Austin, the controller traditionally kicks things off by gazing into a crystal ball of financial modeling the result is the bi-annual revenue estimate delivered as a PowerPoint presentation in an underground capital auditorium, which guides lawmakers as they decide what to spend on public programs were tax cuts in coming years. The amount of money. Available can vary gray. Lately, depending on how the state's economy performs. Wow. The state savings account known is the rainy day fund is projected to reach Rickard high. Balance of fifteen billion dollars lawmakers will debate whether the dip into the economic stabilization fund to pay for bills coming due for the last two year budget period, including hurricane Harvey recovery. And in the upcoming to your budget cycle now. Let me say this so far, I know wanting you listen to program because you went the lace on the vet school. There's a lot out there right now with public education and with hurricane Harvey in believe me event school's gonna take a back seat to both of those things. The funding for it in whenever you look at the higher populations. And where you look at where the presumptive new speaker lives where the Lieutenant governor's from where the governor's fund from those are all hurricane Harvey areas. And so you better believe that Harvey we have in there's a big there was a big thing today in Amarillo with Lubbock mayor with the Lubbock chamber commerce playing up the. The vet school in some contributions towards it. But realist, you gotta see hurricane Harvey a huge issue in hell, that's not being cleaned up yet to the extent that people want cleaned up meaning all things made right? Still a problem out. There advocates for greater investment in public schools reacted positively to the revenue estimates saying lawmakers have no excuse not to increase spending, given a growing budget in unprecedently larger savings account balance. This is good news said Eva, the Luna Castro budget analyst at the left leaning center for public policy priorities. This is enough. Not to cut state services. One note of fiscal underperformance was slower growth in motor vehicle tax collections. Would you got through that end? Hager noted that car and truck sales did not yield enough tax revenue to reach five billion dollars per year. Which will result in slightly less funding available for the state highway fund then lawmakers head planned for. So a couple years ago. There was a more gloomy estimate. Now, you get some more roses, and you know, folks, say that what we need for public education is about six billion dollars in as we go up from the last budget production to this budget prediction, you've got that six billion. Now, are we willing to do it? That's the question in ill. I cannot in the fi all speak for myself in the interview that we just had with Lubbock are Garza county judge Lee Norman in identify the problem in the problem is this and you're gonna hear this multiple tons for me. The problem is that you pay fifty five cents out of every property tax dollar. If you're a homeowner or is here Renner or lease her you still want that paying the same fifty five cents goes. To the state. For public education because the state is put in less money for public doesn't go into the sim sorry to local I don't wanna get a bunch techs. Get blown up about this fifty cents goes to your local school district because their rate stays the same. But the state share has dropped. And so you've got to make up the state share your subsidizing the state. How's that for an oxymoron that that's exactly what's happening here? And there are some folks are sick and tired of seeing that happen of fingers being pointed at city councils at county. Commissioners on why this is happening. And I think that that's why there is the blowback that the governor's getting. On this two point five because it is not going to protect. Property taxes. What's going to protect property taxes is the state ponying up and putting in its fair share. Why that is so difficult for governor abbot? I don't understand why that's so difficult for some state leaders understand. I do not understand. But that's the case in. That's where we are in will. They put up the money. It's like Ted Mitchell. I was reading through my notes for my interview with Ted Mitchell chancellor, Texas Tech who was on with this last Wednesday can go back and listen that podcast. But rural in a we decided somebody through the text Tribune's article who is from a left leaning policy group. But here's the deal whenever it comes public education in rural Texas in west, Texas. You're not talking about rural versus urban or I'm sorry. You're not talking about Republican versus democrat. You're talking about rural versus urban and suburban members of the Texas legislature will ours. Have the veracity have the courage to go up in engage in those discussions for public education. Because everybody knows that public education has lifeblood of every rural community you the community die again, quote, Ted Mitchell, take away health care accessibly takeaway schools, and that's. How communities come to pass one quick note? I have been critical of Desam boroughs in the past my state Representative. But I do want say this. He has managed to become the leader of the Texas Republican caucus and to him. Congratulations for that. He'll also be giving a nomination speech tomorrow Ford, Dennis bond and one of the difference. Two years makes in a hope what I hope is that all this translates into some latitude for Burroughs to represent district. My gripe has centrally been not personal, but is been about his ability to represent district. I think he's in the position do that. And if his people are listening, and I'm sure that they are I'll rally as is he doesn't whether that serve at school through other means all you can do is just want a. State Representative a state official to represent your district, and he certainly has the lie the to do that. Now. My worst of the weekend. Is we close out the program started it with the Cowboys game and those Cowboys throng music there. But those Cowboys showing up best to the week. The Cowboys showing up in winning that was my best of the weekend. My worst of the weekend was not that Texas Tech one. I want ticked win. We go to all these games with the boys that tech tech team. Played up to Kansas state now ranked number eight in the country. Kansas ensued. Some problems some injuries. I'm a little bit concerned about how we got slashed inside. But that's not even my worse much worse is to the lady who stands directly in front of us who stands up the whole game. Look this is not Cameron indoor. This is not Texas Tech versus Texas two thousand eight have a seat in let some folks see the game without making us stand up and inconvenience the people behind us goodness gracious. That's. Mom worse. The weekend is she's right in front of the court in big, bold hair. I'm tempted a took a picture of I'm tempted to put it up because it burned me up so much. Couple of quick notes out here. Lots of comments on that Ted Mitchell interview that I just mentioned planning on writing on it this weekend for your journal Gloag news tomorrow, there's a new Texas. It seems Democrats have a new way going forward. What's the plan in Lubbock county because this is always my gripe within the Lubbock county stalwarts on the Republican and democratic side. There's people who've been there forever who just decide. No. This is the way we gotta do things or the Lubbock county DeVos's intriguing to me. Will the Lubbock county? Democrats go into moderate and try to pick off let's say public education votes votes against a tax caps and imposing on local control. Or will they double down in trying to push a national democratic agenda in west, Texas? It doesn't seem like it would work to me. But we'll see what Lubbock county democratic chair John Gibson thinks tomorrow five fifteen at this time very candid conversation with John Gibson somebody who's very competent very well successful individual and a chair the party will hear from him from four. How about them Cowboys for judge Lee? Norman, we thank you for to Knin to this edition of the program. You can always here. 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Too many Americans are getting debt for Christmas

Marketplace with Kai Ryssdal

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Too many Americans are getting debt for Christmas

"Don't look now but Jay Powell. He's making the Fed boring again from American public media. This is marketplace in Los Angeles on Car Ryssdal. It is Wednesday today. The eleventh of December is always to have you along everybody. You know ordinarily on a day like today when the Federal Reserve wraps up one of its interest straight meetings we would play you some audio of the incumbent chair of the Board of Governors explaining why the Central Bank did this thing or that thing with interest rates today though. Oh Not because fundamentally the incumbent chair in question one Jay Powell didn't say anything new no move and interest rates economy's fine. He's not worried about inflation. Nothing to see here move along. Status quo status quo however come now the two thousand nineteen is in the books. Monetary Monetary Policy wise and. The Fed has pretty much done a u-turn from where it was a year ago on what this economy could bear. It might be time to ask some hard questions of chair. Powell howl at Al Muellern has been asking some of them in his coverage of the economy for the New York Times. Neil it's good to talk to you again. Thanks so much as one hates to I suppose think ill of the Federal Reserve. Is it possible given what has happened this year. and the past couple of actually that maybe the Fed has. It's just been wrong for a while. Now I mean it's not just possible. It's almost admitting it they're almost acknowledging it with with their actions If you go back a couple of years. They thought that they were going to have to keep raising interest rates You know a lot more than they have. They thought that unemployment rate you could not very low And those things have both turned out to be wrong. The soul about the the economy's potential right. It's what could have been had things been different right. There's the question of how many people have to be unemployed employed right so There's always going to be some people in dynamic economy who are between jobs. Were going from one sector to the next moving around but how many of those people are there and at one time. The conventional wisdom in the comics field was that it was. You know five six maybe more percent of the of the Labor Force Now we're three and a half percent unemployment and there's nothing bad happening. There's no inflation. There's none of the bad stuff that's supposed to happen. If you go to low as materialized that means maybe we could have been more ambitious along. Maybe we the unemployment rate actually can be a lot lower and then the costs of that have been what well questions could. We have gotten here faster. We're at three and a half percent unemployment now It it took US ten years to get there eleven years in this expansion If the Fed had not raised rates as much as they had if congress had not been so worried about reducing deficits might. We've gotten to three and a half percent unemployment years ago and would there be millions of people who have been earning an income and having a better quality of life for years. Now who instead took that long to find a job. I don't WanNa make too much of the fact that Jay POWs on economist. Because he's not. We've talked about this on the program is. Is it possible that this change of tone in the Fed is happening because he's not a PhD economist. I think it helps I think he's not a tethered to this wisdom that that's kind of the received idea of how the economy works This relationship between unemployment and inflation that a lot of kind of old school macro-economists take to their grapes. They think of it as kind of the underlying fundamental relationship for understanding how the economy works. I'm Jay Pals. You say he's a business guy he's you know he's been learning a lot of economics over the last decade but it's not as if he comes out of a kind of background. He looks at the world around them and says as well shoot you know. We're we're seeing unemployment fall month after month after month and no inflation seems result. Nothing bad seems to be happening because of that. Let's see how we can go. Well well so play that out for me now. I mean if the feds been wrong for the past decade picking a number What happens in the next decade? I mean is there like upside potential to be realized. I think what we're seeing now. Is they want to figure out. Just how good the economy can get. We heard this message From from Chairman Powell and the most recent press conference that they want to wait until there's real evidence of inflation persistent inflation before they raise rates that was not the tone as recently as a year ago just one year ago they were saying. Oh Yeah we're not just raising rates. It's again which they did. We're going to raise two more times this year. We think who knows how far we're going to go now. They're saying let's just sit on our hands. See how how much this economy can have. How hot that engine get? Don't do something. Just sit there nealer when he covers the economy for the New York Times He writes about a two most recently in a book that we had on the program for call the how to win in a winner-take-all world world. Now thanks a lot. I appreciate it as always thanks. Traders got a little bump on the Fed news but otherwise not a whole lot going on in equities. We'll have the details when we do the numbers in the benchmark American crude West Texas intermediate fell about a half a buck today closed at fifty eight dollars. Seventy six cents a barrel a mention that on the way to this Chevron this economy second biggest fossil fuel producer mark down on the value of its underground assets by ten billion dollars this week even for an oil company. And that's real money and it's a sign that oil and natural gas prices might stay low asche for awhile because as marketplace's Scott Tong reports the energy world is coming to the realization that long term a lot of those underground assets might never be drilled the surface when you have a glut of something the price of that something you know it sags. That's been happening for years with natural gas in what's called the Marcella shale formation in the eastern eastern. US basement prices are bad news for drillers. Like Chevron here's economist at hers at the University of Houston Chevron bought into Marcel. Tell US unfortunately lots of people have been doing the same and so the supply outstripped the demand so Chevron cut the value of its investment there and write downs have happened in oil to at BP. Schlumberger Repsol Amy Myers Jaffe at the Council on Foreign Relations says this reflects a longer term reality as the world tries to move on on from fossil fuels that the buyers may never come if you start to question whether oil demand will peak and it's already declining in Europe Europe and now it's looking more likely that it could peak in China all this upends a long-term assumption in the business that you could always wait out low prices and then produce when prices. This is come back. There are GONNA be oil and gas reserves. The Jeff can't be produced and part of that pressure is climate change and part of that has to do with new Innovative technologies that are gonNA reduce the need for oil for instance electric cars so some energy companies are trying to sell assets sooner rather than later and her says. That's what Saudi Arabia's oil giant Aramco did when it went public this week turn reserves into cash while they still hold value. I'm Scott Tong for marketplace marketplace elsewhere in oil dateline Riyadh Saudi Arabia shares of Saudi Aramco. Hit The ten percent up limit when they started trading there today that it really is about all the time. That story is worth only a sliver of the company shares are trading all and only on the Stock Exchange. All right moving on. This is day. Okay two of these signed benign yet ratified new North American Free Trade regime the US MCA. And while day one coverage was a whole lot of auto parts and biologic pharmaceuticals goals and environmental protections. There are some other things in that deal. You know like for instance. It's going to be harder to suit. Technology companies specifically it protects. It's tech companies from being liable for what their users do that's already the law here but under the US MCA has now written. It would apply in Mexico and Canada as well. Here's here's marketplace's Sabrina finish war in the US if someone puts up a really vicious yelp review of a restaurant let's really just wildly libelous and defamatory Amatori. That restaurant could sued the person who posted the review but it couldn't successfully go after yelp liability for online speech. Lives of the speaker blackmore. Michael Patrick own is with the Consumer Technology Association which represents tech companies this protection it's referred to as section. Two thirty is very important to accompanies well. Two thirty is the law. That may be Internet possible. Barons okay is president of tech freedom sites like facebook and twitter and Youtube. I believe seems all exists because sections thirty has prevented these companies should being sued for everything that their users post and create the same protections are built into the US MCA Jay. The idea is to extend a friendly business environment and free speech friendly regulations from the US into Canada and Mexico but more and more. It's not how everyone in the. US wants the Internet to work. Section to thirty eight now is under attack. Jeff Kossuth is a professor at the US Naval Academy in his written a book about section two thirty critics argue Internet companies. Get too much protection. And don't moderate users content enough so you have a lot of people for different. The reason I including members of Congress Jiang section through thirty S to be repealed or significant damage that's led to some griping that the protections made it into the US MCA but legal experts. Say Congress if it wants to change. US law still can in New York. I'm sure for marketplace And we do a thing on the program on hopes you heard it called conversations from the corner office CEOS of one striper and other almost I entirely people running big ish for profit companies this month. Oh something a little bit. Different nonprofits and charities just as important Norton. is those big brands but in a totally different way today habitat for humanity. Maybe one of the best known not for profits out there but perhaps known best doodle misunderstanding Standing Jonathan Record is the CEO of habitat for humanity. Also this year an author of a book called our better angels Miss Record. Welcome to the program. Thanks thanks guys. Great to be with you. I think there are some things we need to clear up. First of all about Your Business Your Company and how you guys work. I think probably everybody or many people think you just build houses and give them away. That is not opt in fact the case that is true. That's one of the biggest myths about Habitat. In fact we're best known for two things that turned out not to be true. I that we give away houses. We don't we actually really sell them to families who put in hundreds of hours of sweat equity helping build their homes in the neighbor's homes and then they pay back and affordable mortgage and we recycle those funds back into the same communities immunities. The other is the president. Carter started runs habitat which is also not true though Though he certainly put us on the map yeah for sure. And we'll get back to the former president in a minute but A word here about you just ticking through your resume Goldman Sachs Marietta. Walt Disney Corporation circuit city how did you wind up running. a nonprofit that does global work. Like you. Do I think God has a sense of humor My career in some ways. It's never made complete sense. Great opportunities just kept coming along but I had always planned on trying to learn in the private sector and then eventually take that to a mission that that I could get really excited about and looking back all of those roles actually have turned out to be incredibly helpful. Yeah can we talk labor market here for a minute You depend a A almost entirely in overwhelming proportion on volunteers to come help You do this good work And yet the labor market that people get painful is really really tight. How do you convince people to give up their precious precious time? It's really interesting Outside the US. We are much less dependent on volunteers because the ratio volunteers typically we have a lot of volunteers available in middle and high income countries far fewer volunteers available in very low income countries. And so the constraint for us is actually not more volunteers it's the land And that's the underlying challenge here in the US and around the world in our cities and and so for us We could actually put more volunteers to work if we had more land. This is a terrible way to frame this and people will hear it and it will go right by them as they're driving down the freeway and I'm GonNa get mean tweets in angry emails about it but the affordable housing crisis is really an opportunity for you both here illegally. You know it's sad opportunity We look forward to the day when we have we can move onto something else because our mission says everyone already has decent housing but I would say it has raised. It has gotten so bad that finally housing has is higher on the visibility list. If you had asked five years ago Oh housing would rate maybe number eight on people's priority list even though if you have somebody who didn't have good housing it would be right at the top of the list what's happened now is actually gotten so so bad. I think that middle class families their children can't afford housing and so it it suddenly become visible. But it's been a crisis for a long time A thought here about The nuts and bolts of. How you do you? Do you depend heavily as you said on corporate partnerships your brand Personified led by as you mentioned beforehand former. President Carter is critically important How do you capitalize on that and build on on it in a way? That doesn't betray the mission right. Because you have to act in some ways as a for profit growing enterprise yet with this service mission you know I think for us the axiom. I've used for years now. Is We want to be religious about our principles but not our tactics so we have. We want to stay focused on shelter and to do that. That means we need the private sector and the public sector and the social sector working together. Because it's so complex skies you know To try to change hearts and minds. You live in the epicenter. You know Nimby is something that happens all over the world not in my backyard in California. It's banana build absolutely nothing anywhere near anything. And so we have got to change hearts and minds in order order to change policies so that we can build an increase the supply of affordable housing or housing that is affordable for people. Jonathan record is the the CEO of habitat for Humanity International. His book out Now is called our better angels Mister Thompson. I appreciate great tooth. UK thanks so much for having having. We've got more of my conversation with Jonathan Record including how you go about growing a global nonprofit also habitats role in affordable housing advocacy on our corner office Coming up a lot of folks are feeling that pressure to spend more than really they have to spend The holidays but first. Let's do the numbers. The Dow is up twenty nine points points today about a tenth percent. Twenty seven thousand nine. Eleven the Nasdaq gained thirty. Seven points. Four tenths percent. Eighty six fifty four the S. and P.. Five hundred nine points. two-tenths tenths percent thirty-one forty-one walgreens boots alliance stumbled six tenths percent today after downgrade from Wells Fargo Healthcare insurer Cigna was also downgraded by wells Fargo. It's not just a tad so we'll call that flat. Home Depot hammered down one point eight percent today. The home improvement chain issued a sales growth forecast for twenty twenty that missed expectations. Shinzo lows of one percents on the day. American Eagle outfitters swooped down six and a half percent after posting disappointing profit and sales forecasts bond. Prices rose yield on the ten year Treasury note fell one point seven nine percent. You're listening to marketplace on Corner Office. You're going to hear stuff you're not gonNA hear anyplace else travel tips from Arne Sorenson of Mary always be on local time. Always get naturally always exercise this from Youtube Susan widgets. It's great to see the impact attack that we can have and the responsibility that comes with that and Microsoft such Adila on why it's personal from in his hospital bed management devices and software the rebuilt listen to my conversations with them and more on the corner office. podcast want at a dive deeper into a story you here on marketplace visit our website at marketplace dot org for extra content and analysis from videos to explainers. We have have you covered when it comes to understanding economy. This is marketplace. I'M KAI result. It's election day tomorrow over in the UK Brexit as you know is on the ballot again. Three and a half years it's been since the referendum tomorrow is the second general election since but you take brexit out of the equation for just a second which is hard I know but worked with me here. You take breaks exit out and given the way the two party leaders are talking. There's a case to be made that the inner workings of British capitalism are up for vote from London. Marketplace's Stephen even beard. Has that one prime minister. Boris Johnson called the election because he'd lost his majority in parliament and couldn't push through his exit deal for leaving the EU. He's message on the campaign trail. Couldn't be clearer. Twenty twenty to be another year of defeatism despair. No get brexit. I think he's main opponent Labor. Party leader Jeremy Corbyn wants this election to be about much much more today. We launch the most ambitious and radical campaign. Our country has ever seen to Corbin's plan re-nationalized the water electricity rail and mail services confiscate ten percent of the dividends paid out by large companies make broadband free institute a four day workweek cap and control rents and a great deal more besides rewrite the rules of our economy to work for the many not the few ignore the wealthy and the powerful tell you that's is not possible the future is as to make together. Corbin's manifesto has dominated media coverage of the campaign. The most important election of our lifetime is about more than just brexit. The party's poll rating has picked up. Many young voters like Londoner. Freddie Mason are supporting porting Labor public services are falling apart. There's a huge housing crisis especially in London. Where when is astronomical? The Labor Party is offering sort of sensible alternatives. The real election battleground is well away from London in the Midlands and in the north in marginal Labor held but brexit supporting electoral districts like Stoke North where conservatives have been campaigning hard. Good morning how you doing on the Conservative Party candidate. I was checking from me. Lucky to get your vote in this occasion. The Conservatives are hoping to persuade voters in places like this that getting brexit done the first priority freed from E. U. ties. They believe Britain would unleash it. Global trading potential but judging by people like Liz read Jenny. Any loyd and John Gibson. It's Labor's left-wing proposals. That are cutting through. I must admit I believe in a lot of their policies or failed that hearts in the right place. Either I think we have to be more socially aware nowadays. Think that the veterans getting richer and the people at the bottom of working just as hard in so much that. It's not a fair division anymore. What about nationalizing electricity water? Yes I think so not. The broadband abundant bought utility services. Yes definitely and I think if it's back into Publicans it'll be much fair. Around Labor also offering free university commission and Free Dentistry for all says it will pay for the splurge by extra taxes on big companies and the rich Jonathan Gullies. The conservative candidate here is not impressed. The top five percent. Jimmy claims he'll be taxing are simply going to end up moving them on your moving abroad elsewhere. Battered by austerity maddened by Brexit. Infuriated originated by sky. High House prices. Many Brits seemed to have fallen out of love with capitalism. But says Gallus any new love affair with Coburn ISM will end in tears. Jobs will go. We'll see the economy shrink and we'll find out just how dangerous communism really is. 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That's the number one time of year when people feel pressure to overspend several recent surveys have all found the same thing. Americans feel pressure to spend more than they'd like this time of year millennials and parents with young kids most of all and it's not just on gifts although gifts was the largest category but it's also on food and drinks on travel outfits and even home decor but a lot of folks are feeling pressure to spend more than really they have to spend Brian. Nelson Ford is a financial wellbeing executive at suntrust banks and he says not only do people feel pressure to spend more than they have but a lot of people actually spend more than they have. Suntrust holiday survey found that sixty eight percent of Americans plan and to put at least half of their holiday spending on credit. Another one from lending tree found that nearly twenty percent of people are still paying off holiday bills from last year. It's just really easy to use credit this time of year and especially think about holiday shopping. How many people are doing stuff last minute? It's hard to make good furniture choices when your last minute shopping summer read is an accredited financial counselor. WHO works a lot with low income families and she says there is just a huge amount of pressure to keep up with the Joneses always but especially this time of year and a really tough thing as you come off the holidays sort of wake up? It's New Year's Day wake up and realize I spent all of my savings and now I'm starting over and all. I have gifts that don't look release exciting. Now that I'm not in the store with soft lighting and the music in the background one way to take the pressure off Brian. Nelson Ford says might be to just talk about it with your family and friends. Because chances are they're feeling feeling it too. 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Mika Zibanejad, Goalie Superlatives

ESPN On Ice with Wyshynski and Kaplan Show

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Mika Zibanejad, Goalie Superlatives

"MORE ON CAR INSURANCE GO TO GEICO DOT com today and see how much you could save Emily Greg so as Devil's fan it's not been the best great news there's a quick way you can save money switch to Geico Geico could help you get great coverage at a great price and it only takes fifteen minutes to see if you could save fifteen percent thing on the ice but the New York jets up by Richard Hunting one win against the Dallas cowboys according to Bob Whiskey my dear father playoffs around emily it's all happening this week it's all coming up with ESPN and ice we're GonNa talk about teams teams one for the playoffs playoffs that keep in mind that my dad also made a wager on the jets at the beginning of the season but anyway I watched a lot of the devils in the first week of the season and I was left unimpressed here's a member devils that are hot trash we're gonNA talk about goaltenders are yearbook superlatives for goaltending in the Nhl you want to hear that and abandoned wording affinities from and we briefly talked about the devils foibles and lamented the fact of the mets are going to get another manager and then we talked about the jets New York jets defeat the Dallas Cowboys and I'd say this to you because I got a call from my dad from whom I get all my on top of the delusional fan going on but there you go devils plummeting down the depths of the Metro Division into the basement of the Eastern conference unable to defend any gene I'm Greg Luzinski. NHL Writer Amendment Kaplan National Nhl reporter so two teams are off horrible starts head of a team across the Hudson River that's quite well will join us as well here on the latest vsbn ice let's talk to show proper shall we it was Shitski and Kaplan it's espn an ice the podcast ESPN talks about hockey. My Dad said after the jets beat the cowboys emily he said why no next week obviously you don't probably beat the Patriots and then playoffs I five minutes this season there minus twenty five and shot attempts to minus fifteen shots on goal so basically what you're seeing is that when they get down to goal they're just like at the over seven and a half wins and laid like you know one hundred bucks or whatever so he's got that delusional gambler thing I am a Yin and Yang and even steven and up and down so as the devils plummet into the depths of the abyss of the Nhl once again hopefully Taylor Hall is still there for the next lottery pick so your ear buds a podcast about hockey featuring things to do with hockey from your friends at Espn it's ESPN on ice having a win yet not advisable as do this not Gregory so as sports fan knows when you follow multiple teams as always I wanted to throw out its you amongst the Plethora of terrible devils numbers the start of the season when they're trailing by goal at five on five which has happened roughly all right screw it make back this we are done though and they just walk away so as someone who has watched them closely amongst some other teams that are off the best teams particular that'd be forced the accuracy devils Andy Dallas Stars can start with else I 'cause they're freshman once again the Minnesota wild get no love oh the Minnesota while to of course I guess I guess the difference is that two of those three teams we expected to be good the top pairing defenceman but after that I'm not very impressed by the rest of the group but the goaltending has also been pretty gosh darn awful you've got I'm curious I was not crazy about their defensive group going into the season I do think yes PK Sudan gives you a theoretical number one guy that can eat a lot of men Schneider who vowed that he felt great going into the season last year he told me it was mental for him that it was physical then was mental this terrible cycle he was in and he finally feels like it's all the there and then he doesn't do great and then he got Mackenzie Blackwood the supposed- goaltender of the future who's also have some pretty bad numbers who do you think more is to blame is that the defense or is it with a lead Mackenzie Blackwood comes in and the jets rallied so bad for him then it was it was terrible it's the defense and so two hard to establish an offensive flow and often times the devils have been pinned in their own zone for minutes at a time and so when you see he knows the problem real quick because I know there's a lot of people that have seen the numbers in the team and are wondering what the Hell's going on it's simple if you can't get out of your own zone it's and it's a defense although I will say the ultimate irony is of course senator talking about how great he feels and he's in the best shape is an opening night cramping up directly affects their ability to score now that said their ability to score has been pretty good at times they put four goals on the jets put four I mean at what point do you look John Heinz their coach and say maybe this needs to be the thing that changes there's definitely been multiple times this season an avalanche effect of one bad thing happening and then another bad thing happening in the devil's just not being able to get out of the way otherwise element team doesn't mean that you can dangle the NHL Defenseman but it's still a team that's looks very lost and like I said Emily six game homestand already own one on it pastor gave a Broschi yesterday and then their defense fails them where they can't make rudimentary plays to keep the other team off the board and then also get back the other way you are not looking to establish zone time in the offensive attacking zone you're looking to get to the bench because you are exhausted so their inability to defend hitting that of course is the fact that John Heinz a contract extension in January complicating that of course is I don't even know who would be out there to bring in to coach the team heroes thinking right now because history tells us that he is very patient and loyal GM but history also tells us that he put a lot of resources and investment into this team this offseason have there been better science as the first couple of games share I think Jack Hughes for examples looked a lot better I think he learned pretty quickly that just because you can dangle the US the most well-constructed team at this point they're kind of a mess right now as as as the season starts they're not they're not scoring which was and he really really really wants Taylor Day and as much as Taylor halls like I know they're not doing this all because of me like they just WanNa make good team he knows it's all because of him and he wants the shell -Tarian do exhumed body of Toe Blake like what do you do with this for there's nobody left rounded team that's a contender and the only way to be a contender is to look like a contender and actually win some games so you know maybe it's pulling the blues playbook and fire coach early hoping it can turn it around when we talk about hot seats and what's going on right now I think John Heinz has to be number one on the list and there's just no bones about it usually when a GM comes in he wants to hire his own guy but I think that Bill Garin inherited this job it's his first GM job with so much damage control to do number two of that list would be Bruce Boudreau you figure so yes or no look say this after reading an interview this morning have you write that they're both gonna work together to the themselves out of this because I really like Bruce but I mean at some point you turn the page to a younger crew and then do you want bruce there for to be expected but also goaltending hasn't been all that hot which is again to be expected but their defense last season was at least pretty good anyways do you think the devils are going to be okay they're gonNA be okay I think they could because it is early and I I feel like we have to caution all these things but I do wonder what ratio and with Bill Garin With our old buddy Pierre Lebrun and Bill Garin actually had some nice things to say about Bruce Prideaux saying look I don't think the problem is him I've actually developed relationship with him I think everyone's always getting evaluated at all times but I'm kind of happy with where we're adding of building things together and you know yes that's not the guy that he brought in ms one in four start for the season wildly outscored a kind of kind of want to believe of the damage that Paul Fenton did it a very short amount of time that he knows this isn't going to be a quick fix and look Bruce Boudreau is season guy and as you mentioned there's no obvious from this penguin combinations or they go go sign todd Richards so the thing about the wild we all know that they aren't exactly all mice talking about how this is the most important road trip of the season that they're about to go on and of course right after that they get blanked out by the Buffalo Sabres but look fought one five and one start at the beginning of the season six point eight shooting percentage twenty nine hundred and eighty five else honorary hockey raider with that that Glenn also teams can score and can't defend the Dallas stars no not one of the reasons we love Bruce's he's an amazing quote for example we are recording this after he has morning Skate in Toronto and we know that anytime anyone's interest games how long before team executive has started calling everybody horse excrement again in Dallas I don't know if we're going to hear we're GonNa hear about it and they said what do you like about starting thirteen of eighteen games on the road and he goes well the meal money so pretty I'm still working owners are still paying the five save percentage which is a team say percentage which puts them actually twenty third in the NHL because the offense basement like when I think of when a GM is going to fire coaches because they have someone ready like give you an example the Winnipeg jets pommery if all goes downhill I could think Palmer is is killing goalie's left and right but still not re- expected to be with the kind of quality goals admitted they have on that team Dallas again thirteen goals in in seven already altering their lines they gotta figure out the power play that's his looked awful so far but I'm a little more patient with them because I liked the roster a lot better and obviously you have this all because they really liked their age shell coach Rask Alvin sent I don't know if the wild have I write in and ready to go or Garin is somebody already he's thinking of everybody everybody that was on that deep bench coach is to get new jobs they've got jobs whose letter Ken Hitchcock up to these days each county usual go to call it's just developing chemistry feeling comfortable with his new line-up so I think we have time here for them to right the ship remember we were talking about them being Horse Poo Poo I think they are when we talk Jim Montgomery like he is the equivalent of the seventy sixers and hockey world he talks about the process it's all about the process of getting radloff one goal seven games PA- Veliki as you said one assist in seven games not great Bob and John Klingberg there's a lot of cupcake's on the east coast right now so I think some of these teams that have have made mincemeat out of the Rangers devils and others may not be as good as we guarantee and Shira both trying to find that random Pittsburgh penguins both going for Tony Granato at some point to see if he wants to leave Wisconsin the thing about the Dallas Stars is they won last year in spite of having very bad offense they just could not score goals they great goaltending an excellent defensive group they were hoping that that could change this year with bringing in Podolsky that took a flyer and Corey Perry that those things would juice them up I still think there can be time one of the things that I do feel that quite that just yet but I will say I you know we've talked about this on this podcast already of people giving their big state of the team addresses you have Tyler Sagan after the team gets booed off the better and it's not results oriented and look it's a results oriented Lee you gotta win but I do feel like this is all part of the process we were doubting him early last year saying the kind of team that can do that the the interesting development though in the western conference is the fact that there are a couple of teams that maybe we thought weren't going to be good berated and we don't really talk about that much is when a guy comes to a new team it takes a little bit to get his bearings and yeah pavilion approach he's been in the League for a while but again plus minus fallible stat but also a good canary in the coalmine for some players is going to be okay is the question you on Blue Line for most of these games start the season maybe Patrick Leonard should have been on that top line all along who knows maybe Patrick way to get them going definitely on my fantasy maybe this guy isn't fit to be an NHL coach and he really did whippet together so I've got faith in them on Youtube is the kind of team given how it's built they've tip it's fascinating you know they oilers as you mentioned weren't Chicago so out there morning skate yesterday that'd be Monday and talked to a couple of players and I was asking and then of course the Juggernaut juggernauts even though the Chicago Blackhawks ran in there a little bit last night five and one ten points the Edmonton oilers there's been so much turnover in the management and leadership ranks that they just want continuity and I feel like there's just the sense of the team okay we finally have the they are but still a five and one start for the Edmonton oilers is a pretty impressive start and I will say this about them for all of the talk about the real deal they're real good winnipeg even though they got the doors blown off on home ice recently by Pittsburgh inexplicably eight point seven Games despite having basically mean coaching them he's known as a defensive structure coach maybe can make the most out of nothing with that Blue Line James Neal also start with talking about him in a bit that ownership is going to believe in whether that stays true or not remains to be seen this as Edmonton oilers after all but I think that's trickling down and like you mentioned you know we have James Neal one assistant seven games in the minus five braddock penalties to right reverend everybody was going to get to the sulky yeah minus TUB grabbed a Disney plus to hear emily say curse words that's where you can words under five dollars a month have you guys heard Jamie Benn one goal seven games her cleft bomb I was like what's the difference vibe or what's different about this team this year than last year and man clams and awesome guy to talk to he's mazing he's like James Neal who we'll talk about later in mcdavid Drilon who's been incredible sixteen goals in six games is the Dave tip effect happening in front of our eyes I'll say this about the oilers I want nothing more than to vote for Connor mcdavid with a clear conscience so the Hart trophy as you know alleviating some of the scoring pressure from Dreidel and mcdavid and then you've got dry it'll mcdavid still looking like stud so I feel about this team right now like you said it's Dave Tippett I will be first in line I will send my ballot in first to say Connor mcdavid for MVP unless it's dry style but also let's be honest six to rescue mcdavid it's amazing I will say that we're talking about awards voting I was thinking about it the other day and not gray Bob Department Emily Kaplan's although I don't know behind that lease defensive you won't all right let's get more now joining us is the top line center of the New York Rangers Mika Zibanejad and they can easily go on a run of twelve games and like eleven wins like Radulovich Sagan gets hot get some kind of point street yeah the powerful don't you cannot have over you gotta be in it to win it if you're not in the playoffs you're not getting my heart trophy vote for the oilers make it I will okay I would say I'm GonNa tell you good things we're five right now you should come to me and like a week or two and I'll give you an honest assessment but that's the thing is everything is going right with them right now Mike Smith for example we over nine hundred save percentage in October that's weird that's slow starts there's October ben Bishop there's October Freddie Anderson everything will even out eventually maybe this year is that a good Disney word to use now and of course they made the playoffs and all of a sudden look pretty good in the spring so you Jim Montgomery segment but vezina winner Freddie Anderson Bob Upgrade no again I still think the leaves are GonNa win the Cup didn't know how goaltending was going to go up hold up he looks good an Oscar said another thing which is that they feel good about having can haul and they're they feel good about having Dave Tippett there like the more meaningful games the Edmonton oilers play the better it is for for the NHL because it is I mean we are very close sending seal team six and we've talked about this the rescue conor McGregor Jack Adams early-season one John Lines who still the chance that he turns it around doing he's he's doing the classic checkout I just went back to eating like I usually did when I was in Sweden and what I did for about seven years and the thing is I worked for me that and you know it was obviously something I wish I I understood more of earlier Edmonton role of a sudden the leaky D. on this team is covered up by a good defensive quote it's the it's the Ken Hitchcock thing but it's actually happening the bar really well that's exactly he's really playing gaming the system and then I have our other pick and I believe you share this one with me and it probably leads us into our next I'm just trying to be a pro basically it twenty four seven and understanding the the the the the summer plan the summer and how it's making you feel now yeah so I mean it started started actually last summer just looking back at last year there is a clip on twitter I think the Rangers put it out it was a video and you were explaining that this was the first summer you kind of really understood what the obviously a team humor's wasn't what we wanted but personally I feel like it's a step in the right direction and obviously started with the summer Oh yeah takes takes a village to a hockey player that's for sure I wanted to ask you about playing with our Aaron what's that like is this someone who is thinking in that classic hockey sense ten steps ahead or is it just somebody who is so good in the moment that you just have to out this as much as possible and find substitute for the things that you you use to but I think food wise only be able to set set guys up and we we've had discussions over these these weeks and months we've been together ration- took to make the season and we see you're having a great start your play more minutes than every played twenty four minutes against the oilers the other night as detail for us what exactly did to change it she reads the play or very well and he's I feel like he's always ahead but at the same time he's so good back then and we're easy very simple and easy to get hold of as well so I was workouts and everything that went into it had to do a lot with the the the food plan the you know the sleep and recover and everything it is the second language but what are the challenges with having a teammate and even a linemate who can't quite communicate totally as much as you'd like to they're just GONNA have to win every game eight two seven just gonNa craziest Freddie Anderson never has good October numbers we just got this stat only one year in his career last year was the can so so did my girlfriend service of eating eating enough but so it's just not a not a one man job you have a team around me with friends and family I appreciate no we can I think it's I think he his English is better than people think and I think even even said that in a in a good way you pennzoil his English is a little bit up and down I think he you know we they're about just trying to learn a little bit more about each other of where we are on the ice and were most comfortable and how we WANNA play the game and the act to what he's doing athletically I think it's a bit of both honest with you he's obviously very very smart on at night pat or video whatever and it's not it's not that bad and it's obviously a easier when you have another Russian on vising in situations where you feel like there's no no real solution to it he finds a way to get out of the situation with the PUCK and and it's going on do you WanNa have the feeling of knowing where we are and not have to always see where the other one is and obviously that takes time that takes that that helps a lot for me to be able to speak and if there's something that he doesn't get then I'll just tell Bucci that and he'll translate interesting I guess the the result China is just a receipt of a complication of the hard work that's been going into the summer tell me about your thoughts now you've been with the Rangers for a bit now has this you know obviously what's going on right now you you you always step on the ice you always WanNa win seeing the players that left unbelie mature but I'm I'm happy came to Kim to realize what it really need to have to do and and yeah communicating maybe Some of that some some some of the messages I kinda come across get gets it had a lot to to thank by my my buddy that was saying diversity whispering all of the food for me and Kinda kept in and you're you're normal reaction and and you're I feel for it is right and now you're heading a different direction players that have played in the League as much not fully grown COPPA gets drafted Trueba comes in finance signs. Are you astounded by how quickly the rebuild kind of came together it was hard it was it was hard to kind of accept the fact that we're doing it as a player right away but again you see the town that's coming up this process started when they sent that letter to the fans did you think that this was gonna be a prolonged process versus how Jeff Gordon is kind of pulled it together you get excited but right that moment u u you feel a little bit disappointing but about the situation obviously and I feel and then we a lot of the talks we have we feel like we're on the same page assist sometimes the communication and that the way of the ways of I know gets mixed up a little bit but I think in that in terms of that I feel like it's easy it's easy to write on the board he's Kinda show on on I think I've said this in several interviews and so other people obviously when that letter came out as going out there and Kofi better for you mentioned Perrin's English I personally have the belief that I think it's a little better than he lets on he's probably not as confident using it time and when you don't play a lot it's it's Kinda hard to work on it but I feel like we're we're trying our best to practice now we don't have a lot of games it started actually after World Championship two thousand eighteen What the Games are coming up you you get more more feel for him on in a sense for it so I think you know once we get the the regular schedule contents so maybe maybe we bring them we have to Defcon two there at defcon three but now they're back at Defcon it's just I have to speak a little slower but it was the same thing for for me when I play with Pablo which is actually on our line as well right now so that I I think it's just been all excitement with about this group about the the guys have been added you guys are coming back so I think I think we can it would be weird if you didn't but everything that's been going on especially the summer it's you know you you get happy you get excited and I think that's and we got our we got the bonus for winning a give that away to the the the girls hockey and give up the give up give up I mean you try that obviously to give back and WANNA be able to give back to the people and kind of groups that are not as fortunate with the resources and program and it just started not too long ago so honest can't tell you how it's evolving in that sense we'll players players have been with the Rangers for a long time when they had their run to the playoffs year after year and what has the reaction been and if you give update on you know how that money might be affecting them and and where they're at now yeah so I mean it started start for the season blowing you know two three goal leads on home is not advisable you see what's going on with the organization as far as the draft goes players coming in the players that are willing to learn willing to to get better Quests so I think our listeners kind of know what's going on but you decided to donate you know portions of those proceeds to the women's national program so what led you to do that but you know the reaction has been great obviously and and I'm I'm happy I'm happy about that but the same sense says I know you own a restaurant that serves burgers and Sweden with your brother and two other business partners and we've talked about the women's Swedish boycott actually on his podcast with Hendrick loan before that always made me happy and then now we're the restaurant we we felt like we could do something as well and I always wanted my own was five or six teams I got split the money and it was something that me and my brother they're talking about and I've been expressing that that I wanna I wanna be at least you know we're heading in the right direction I think but I hope we can surprise a lot of people to make a last one for you one of the coolest stories I saw this Summer Ellen Burger on the menu that we on the restaurants everyone so work that well and that was one of the ideas and especially what was going on with that women's was exact feeling the locker room then you look at the schedule and you see you don't have a lot of games in the beginning season Kinda get especially with it but we keep going with that of your action was great the money was spent all obviously appreciate from their side and they they got opportunities that the and all of that that may be won't won't get much attention in for you know as far as economy goes and stuff decide that that can that they can help yeah we didn't mean to forget about Pavel like that make you feel like you're talking to lanes when you just kidding I was nothing we can do about it but I think just a just a feeling around the locker and move on from the from the coaches as well as something bigger something like continuing to in the future what's on the Burger it is a you want to start somewhere you wanNA know help out the way you can and and hopefully that will that will lead into something golly yearbook superlatives as we take a look at the NHL in two thousand nineteen twenty and figure out who the best of folks between the pipes are tomato sauce like Gimme GimMe Gimme tomato transforms in every single way except for raw sliced tomato just get out of here service with Geico you twenty four seven access to agents Thank you creepy girls Miss Year continued success I appreciate it thank you so much this place look haunted having a sandwich of any kind and having that tomato toxicity tomato slime all over my my beautiful tuna fish or or lunch meat or a burger most of Rita Goalie Emily Kaplan Sergei Rebrov ski right now look Emily I once again will pat myself on the back for not getting on my soapbox and going out of twenty minute rant about how the Burger at his restaurant is the right after we record this because I'm hungry for one and I'll have extra tomatoes just for you Mika that's a wrong opinion we'll cover that another episode where Jersey Great Tomatoes there yes I know I know and I know the thing about tomatoes I always hear is ever went to Italy and had a tomato in Italy there her goalies and golly talk so instead of just kind of going through the League and talking about we decided to do a little something different which will probably apply to other positions as the season goes on goalie superlatives apple so Yin and Yang it's my we worked well together on this podcast it's like Kaplan versus colon tomato wars it's time from the different than all the other tomato you've ever eaten fine you know what they still do they spit out a tomato Goo with seeds all over my sandwich the thought about making a a Vegan option that's we're looking into that as well but so I guess you know everyone can contribute even it in tuna fish honestly greg texture and acidity the two things that would complement a nice homemade patty and you think about it is that I like tomatoes and all other forms Salsa Burger for not having somebody to on it because tomato runes sandwich if you guys were wearing really glad you didn't get on that soapbox because I probably would push you off because tomatoes are amazing and I'm going to go have a burger exactly thank thank you so much for your time and continued success this season I saw I saw a couple of Rangers Games when I was back east and I gotTa tell you win or lose you guys are going to be pretty exciting looks great in the play offs and look like you know the murderer that was going to go down with that Columbus Blue Jackets team but he signs with Florida with this here with an onion rings and caramelized onion side of that on your ring and then just on the top and since my girlfriend's Vegan she she she was on me canal at the Guy Go weans which today for twenty four seven access to licensed agents are thanks to me gets bad of the New York Rangers for joining us as we've mentioned many times including on this podcast bloated contract including no movement clauses for a very long term and he comes out and his numbers are horse poop ended up being okay maybe that was confident but I am a little bit worried I remember what we talked about this at the beginning of the season Lou he does not look good he obviously has time to turn it around but just not doing it for me this year I think he's all times and he has a famous story about Oh Dallas Peres signing a big contract with the dodgers and then his career kind of falling apart because he couldn't handle the money I think so too creepy girls stay with that history truly frightening Michigan a guy wanted to I really want to believe in April Brodsky after last year's playoff run when he rewrote his own band word on around the horn narrative and in hoping since two thousand seventeen has a minus fourteen goals saved above average now granted there was one you know sort of San Jose Sharks and one of the rabbit holes went down was the idea of the psychology the psychological tests that general managers have to apply to athletes. AH THOSE WHO won't eat meat so but that's very Houston you need to get done it impossible bigger up in that joint not very good year for him in that mix but you know he was great in the playoffs no doubt led the capitals to a Stanley Cup guy before this contract but then you get ten million annually and it's a different stratosphere and then there's different pressures on you because you're seen as the the franchise I'm the guy who eats the Matz Rela off the tomato when you guys that's that appetizer restaurant then you can stick with his I'm the girl that buys a tomato I guess a little bit worried about the contract thing I have a story coming out this weekend. ESPN with the NED Colletti who was the GM of the dodgers he is now a scout for the guy versus maybe being part of the team there's a lot of external forces on the back of Broschi right now which makes me a little bit concerned about the start also he gave it four goals the devils so what is he doing now normally my answer for most overrated. Golly it'd be Jonathan Quick but I think he might be properly rated now people think he's and I'm not saying that circuit but Brodsky is a couple of pencils he's selling for a nickel outside the freeway entrance or anything here like he clearly was a pretty wealthy would it would stun you because if it doesn't stun you to see the rook take the job from the vet the net would tell you the vet is a little bit overrated wouldn't it Philip Group our now he only got thirty seven starts last year which was decent because they had to play that other guy that ended up getting paid a lot of money success his success is going to be a big part of it so I don't think he gets enough credit yeah I I would I mean he's going to get credit if he gets as many reserved for a long time he's twenty eight years old which is probably right about in the early prime and look I think he's great I think you know when we see the Colorado Avalanche in the last three three seasons in goal saved above average in that short span just a tremendously terrific goalie who simply can't stay healthy but I think like you said the fact that he can't stay healthy means they may not necessarily been on everybody's radar as far as being one of the better goal tender's in this league you look at them now rask through three starts nine five seven save percentage one three three Jay Hawk not far behind him three starts nine you straight to be the mentor to the goalie who's to say or he grabs his guitar becomes Jackson main like he probably should be goes and finds herself lady Gaga seems which is incredible what horrible run of luck for him and for the coyotes in that stretch but I mean when he does play a number just the fact that they put Samsonov on the roster I know that they're kind of justifying it like we had to be the Cap'n crunch work and that's why we sent Phoenix Copley down we're only saving who obvious answers here one of them is a team in the West one is a team in the East I'm picking at him in the east and it's too rask and Yaroslava La Begins Edmonton Him Lehner Soros and pack arena obviously Dallas has this is yeah so I can't really is that answer anymore so I'm GonNa go with someone that maybe people will not like to hear as being overrated and that's Brayden Hopi is a natural transition because this is the guy that was splitting the net with Hobie for a long time and then he was pretty coveted as backup and the Colorado Avalanche traded for that thousands of dollars accounted for them at this moment but they clearly believe in this guy that clearly wanna give him the chance then yeah I think this is the goal of the future and they're ready to get to the future Auntie Rhonda and he is underrated for one simple reason seventeen he's played sixty made the save of all saves in the final but what a what a shock you to see Ilia Samsonov take the job at some point this season they're both over the age of thirty two and look we know rouses reputation in Boston is it's kind of a love hate thing they love him when he's doing great in the playoffs Martin jobs just Martin Jones that's the only answer I worried so much about this Jose Sharks early in the year that are that are actually pretty pretty darn good so but we chose the right one team whose goaltending short-circuit their season you got two years in fact he's looked like a liability they have a great defensive group and were there still lending in that many goals it comes down to the goaltender and I worry and I wonder if they should have done it is we think he's going to get this season for what's going to be a really really good team but yeah at this point I think you're completely correct that he might be a little bit underrated my choice they also love to hate on him when he's not doing great but what are the reasons that he had such a great year last year is because they managed his workload and he and Yorislav really split the load and did great uh-huh and if that's the case you know two things happen then Raden Hopi goes off to another team makes a fine chunk of change a cup winning goaltender maybe even stays in Washington for New York islanders whatever I digress but put up pretty good numbers nine seventeen save percentage to six for GE he finally this year gets that number one role which he really deserves and lives the life that it should be living right now with that beard already and Halloween Mode Guitar most underrated goalie from the bottom still a good team still have some some guys that can play still can beat a good team on any given night provided they get above replacement it wasn't this year but all the smart people said Henrik Lundqvist people choose it's The Dallas Stars Yeah I could see that because Soros doesn't have the work history of the cadeau been does have one save percentage one six nine day I would feel comfortable with either of those guys in an important game and I think the Bruins are set up for success with either of them it would indeed and one of the more interesting things I've found is a I mentioned hope he's in a contract year he should be playing out of his mind right now and it's not the best starting to be this when he's healthy this goalie tandem I'm what out of all the choices here I wonder if this is going to be the superlative that match on it and I think that there's too before Patrick Marlowe came in a superhero and save the day and got them writing the ship onto the right track but Jones says hasn't looked great over the last no he's getting up there in age I know we haven't seen him in the playoffs on a little bit but if it's game seven I want Henrik Lundquist in my net since to address it this off season however they kinda were strapped because they spent so much resources you know signing crawls into a long term deal rightfully so for them but Elvis is still trying to understand the building now there it is there it is goalie you'd want to start for you in a game seven I I think there's like a few ten of us in the West that are sort of in that category right in Chicago of Corey Crawford plays as well as he did ski with a guy named Yoenis guy named Elvis and corpuscle is not played poorly I mean say percentage there hasn't been too much of finally goalie you most like to have a beer weth kind of touched on this last week we're talking about who would islanders beat them three four games in Boston I mean there's something to be said for that right cool ice I love that story villagers start the season I think both those guys at the end of the day are probably going to be right in the mix for lowest save teams they percentage in the league I think right now the blue jackets are forced media tour like if it's game seven who do you trust all the Canadians obviously see said carry price of the Americans Jonathan quick who I think would have been your answer hard for him to dial in every single night on a consistent basis but when he needs to get up for a game he will go ahead like the most start against he is and get to know him so practical reasons Corey Crawford just like I want to have a good time and laugh a lot Anton Khudobin I like I like this they just didn't have the capabilities to be in on a Robin Lehner is that like one year lets pay him five million dollars and see what happens I think that's a really good choice a ninety minutes because you're signing autographs and taking pictures probably with wing sauce and your face finally peak Canada anecdote peak would have been Putin considered it and it probably at the at the end of the day is the answer but I'll go in the direction and say the Columbus Blue Jackets as their replacement goaltending I'm not sure most nights they're going to get that so I would say this is still adjusting to North America ranks like number two goaltender and he hasn't played North America tactic taken because I think I'm going to take the same tact journalistically who needs to be loosened up a little bit that'd be John Gibson John Gibson be fun on color commentaries in Nhl broadcasts and so for me it's Anton Khudobin I was thinking about this and like if I would like actually wanting to get something journalistically out of it I think I would pick Corey Crawford because they live in Chicago and he's never available and I just feel like I'd like to understand who he I'm from e of course Jordan Bennington recency bias but I mean like the person that pudding you've read about them this week yeah wrote about in this week in Jinx them right the hell a good choice though James Rhymer I think James Rammer would be like Super Fun like I know maybe we don't necessarily share the same morals for what I assume would be light beer for him and a skype from James Rammer James if you're listening to this podcast let's have a beer ever ready yet it's great the lead to the story was phenomenal you identify the fact that goaltenders have weird superstitions detailed joined back Jeff Gordon Marc Staal no look I just think that the thing with Henrik is like when he's dialed in he's unstoppable and like I think it is aged two thousand six he is the Rangers six in tune game sevens it's the most game seven wins of any team that stretch I asked this question to a lot of players recently I think it was last year the player in having the most just intense superstitions and it was wonderful it was and it was also like him getting mobbed at a Buffalo Wing restaurant and Canada which is foibles and it's big mistakes lake for example a headline that catches the eye of a professional women's League sports net ran a really good story on the National Comedian Randy Good morning it's still cuss los hotdogs it's the segment each week retail look at the hockey media and it's hyperbole women's Hockey League that are Rutherford wrote but the headline on the story was quote M. I. Scab kicking off the this is always called out sports net and said what is with this headline Rutherford story aces headline bad so on the ice as the National Hockey League kicks off the most controversial season in its history so we've gone from M I a a enemy of Lee this is a player boycott slash deciding to bleed the league dry until it dies the enemy which L. Vision Hubbard up by the La Kings silly silly indeed going the it's my choice to but I'm now curious about the team in the West was a Nashville with who know everybody when you have the opportunity all right we'll go from beer to food and what has been a very culinary centric episode of ESPN and ice in two thousand fifteen because they haven't won the Cup since two thousand fourteen so that's the jinx it's the Taylor swift banner and it was a couple of brews me and him waxed Ingram saw about life you just want him to actually event about how the event is left them high and dry he seems to be a real spiritual dude and I'd probably be on the floor of the Barbara and in the night but I think that he and I would have nice conversations the Los Angeles kings have covered up the Taylor Swift concert banner in their arena which was raised essential questions injected position of what's going on that they're facing so good stuff by Christina absolutely all right ty headlines Dateline staple center obviously they couldn't shake off the jinx shake it off Kinda do I mean a bunch of shows in New York good job you have some bad blood with Billy Joel number two I love hockey we in the span of maybe a few hours well unfortunate headline changing aside dateline the real deal James Neal has eight goals in six games it was an excellent store and I recommend everyone read it and I think it was an important story to because it really humanized the people who are playing in the league this year and it highlighted a lot of the I think Quincy Susan's just Kinda like not I mean unless he's like an angry drunk I mean like I just not be so standoffish loose number there's a number of different concert banners that I wouldn't mind people like I could do without the Billy Joel banner in Ma- Madison Square Garden like congratulations New York artists does kind of set one down the path and this we only read the headlines Society to thinking that what the end wwl's dealing with as a player strike it's time for our favorite segment of the week dogs now he does not love to eat hot dogs we look at sad hyperbole and strange areas sports that change the new headline on the emily is not mis scab question mark. I need to play hockey all capital letters amazing good thing that like you're having wings with like your former goalie coach and then some junior goalie goes George Benson and then you can't get out of the restaurant like fun Lovin Dude who I assume would be my friend under the nails UN's no no no no no no line NHL Stats are a friendly egg heads in the analytics community are going that poop crazy some video evidence of this where they were showing an Anthony Mantha goal that I think the NHL said it was about six feet out that was actually scored from the crease this is a big deal and I'm still waiting my my parents used to play his albums a lot and that was very cruel summer yeah they read right now seeing red end of you. HDL's most controversial season now in fairness to the editors at Sports Net Ama- SCAB was a direct quote from a player but Mis scab certainly draughts Jeremy roenick compared seth rollins to Connor mcdavid and Keith Jones just smiled throughout the segment without saying anything this week when it was discovered that the NHL has changed the way it measures distances on shots are good friends evolving hockey has to hear back from the NHL and exactly why this is happening because it messes with the expected goals stat that which is critical analytic it messes with almost every it didn't work so now we're back on another thing but we'll get to it eventually dateline Monday night raw Kevin eventually figured to get rid of that German company that was paid millions of dollars to develop the technology and then that's a that's a Gretzky start within the context of oilers history are we looking at this year's rocket the deal and so the question is will the NHL recalibrate the way it's tabulating these a numbers or if the egg heads are going to have to come up with a new algorithm to adjust for award-winning emily no but we're looking at a guy who's going to regress back to the mean and his mean was not what we saw last year I think honestly NBC at this point it used to be on NBC but all of a sudden the studio show for the NHL NBC showed up on wrestling and here you have meat on a paper waste now I've never held one of these cups I'm assuming early at times a couple of kilos shots couple of Lila Lion Lime licks being good shape the guy but my choice Pepsi Center the home of the Denver Nuggets Colorado Avalanche is teaming up with ball corporate projectile is responding my only take away when I read this story with I'm glad that we're taking some of the burden away from plastic straws with the NHL is doing either way yeah let's get let's get on that puck tracking and player tracking so we don't have to do this nonsense anymore wouldn't that be fun when did that demonic David Kline so congrats James Neal heck of a start and a good reminder that sometimes all you need a little change in scenery to

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UFC East sports you name it you'll find it over there at Bangor Dot com to make sure you check that's what the Middle Race of the round of twelve so you know a pretty important race for all the drivers that are out there to be sure and you'll have a preview for that overpaying the Book Dot Com and Dan Vegas hockey hotline right I was going today man great etem how you doing buddy I'm telling you of all the things you mentioned it's funny you just reminded me knows maybe Brian will do up a video for us on that race over on our Bang Book Youtube Page here for this weekend obviously Bryant sounds a little bit different today so do I trying to record all sorts of different stuff coming your way here some of it already posted some of it coming up later in the week over it banged the book Dot Com as you know this and every edition of Bang Book Radio Presented Friends over at GSI sportsbook bTV the number two hundred is that Promo Code Utter Percent Deposit Match sportsbook hundred percent deposit match bonus for the live casino enjoy overpaying the Book Dot Com we are your one stop shop for sports betting news and information because we cover the six four and a cover on the show today how what are very talented cast put together Harker Michael's Daily Nhl Picks. I'll have some Major League Baseball playoff series previews once we know who's in the Al The New York giants they just blew out the redskins probably got Jay gruden fired although that was going to happen anyway before we look at this Thursday night game though anything you picked up on week five anything you want to touch on here at the top of the segment I think the cowboys bear close watching of the first three weeks it's not their fault you play who you play and the NFL will have NASCAR previous this weekend. James Mazzola will have a preview for the Houston Open. We've got a lot of college football. NFL picks power ratings L. They put up ten points in that game and honestly I don't know what Green Bay was thinking. Green Bay was killing them and the ripping off about seventy yards a carry hey but they beat the giants with Manning is a pylon and we know what's going on with the Redskins to the point of their coach got fired then you beat me defense and he does a lot of goofball things sometimes during games but even in the Tennessee game there just wasn't a lot there as much of a head coach but it really feels like the last two weeks Garrett has been meddling and I think it has really impacted them in a negative way even to the point where aw K. obviously I'm I'm excited about the bills what they're doing but this defense is just spectacular and they are in every game virtually every game because of their D. Ame who maybe is historically bad and everybody's throwing a parade for these guys they go on the road and there's no disgrace in losing to the saints but played like something in the neighborhood of what sixteen seventeen NFL games this guy's got six fourth quarter game winning drives he'll make bad mistakes but at the end of the game when it matters Allen has a pension for taking him down the field and honestly the way teams are cannibalizing one another what they were buffalo I think is a clear cut favorite to grab one of the wild cards in the AFC. I I mean it's almost like you know and then there what do they got the jets this week you know just know the eagles are in the on-deck circle I'm I'm curious about the now at Beth yes I it's only game until you bet it to guests on the program here today we start things off with Brian blessing the host of Sports Radio Alan threw the ball away he made one bad mistake he seems to make one horrible mistake a game but what's shocking is the defense is the stud there but Allen House it's Brady this Brady that they've got the committee at running back I still think that the down the road not having cowboys because they're against semi quality teams yeah that's an excellent point and this is something that we kind of saw a little bit in that saints game where well and it felt like it the first little bit of adversity Jason Garrett took away some of his control and I don't think anybody out there in the community thinks that Jason he's not going to have a whole lot of weapons this week Barclays Not GonNa play Goldman's banged up shepherds banged up Ingram also on the injury report here he's not likely to play you know Kelly Moore say what you will about the teams that they played in and you certainly mention that and they didn't play a good schedule early on Kelly Moore was doing everything that he wanted everything was working entity but it's about the Patriots defense these guys have been just a machine now going back to the last year it's kind of funny I'm sitting there last night watching the browns game at ever seat for a playoff berth here they're not going to catch the New England patriots though I mean I don't know if anyone can beat the Patriots here with the way that their defense is playing so far this season Redskin's game and then of course when they get to the second half and make adjustments that then very professionally they walked in and put the SASQUATCH for it on the Redskins but you're right I don't know if I trust somebody get margin this week against the bad jets team you know I'm here yeah and the other thing I would think I other than a handful of Antonio Calloway's going to find his way to the Patriots in some way shape or form and all the sudden bi the talent that he's supposed to be just a little bit of a side note there Josh Allen Getting is bell rang a couple of weeks ago now he's got a week off it could sort of refocus especially for as you mentioned that three game homestand where they can really put themselves in the again back to that cowboys packers again all right near the Arctic long pass we'll tackle cooper you got two TV's two different guys trying to punch the ball out and teams tacking tackling his brutal I you know the rules are so stacked against defenders to begin with but the tackling is brutal I mean one of them was the game at Buffalo and the bills defense did everything they could and did frustrate brady but again the Patriots found a way to win with a blocked eh the forty niners minus three and a half in both contests so money definitely trump's fandom when you talk about betting here but I'm sitting there watching that game and I'm thinking I think could be a bloodbath on Thursday night almost assuredly the one thing is you're the giants were asleep or excuse me the Patriots were asleep at the switch in the first half of the and they are a sixteen and a half point favorite on Thursday night football against Danny dimes in the New York giants and see what you will about Daniel Jones but one because I feel like in that game against Green Bay on Thursday night the eagles found something they kind of found that identity whether it was getting healthy or opponents then the browns on a short week that's an interesting game ravens on November third a Bi week before the game against the eagles I don't know if I see a loss is coming up for this team over the next four games probably nine and going into the bye no the funding was before the season even when you look at it there were possibly it certainly doesn't seem that way and again I mean the eagles are a team not that we're going to talk about that game I'll talk about that game a little bit later on in the week here but that Eagles Vikings Games are real interesting there's the spit the bit with yeah it certainly seems like it and also I think it's a pretty good time for the biweekly here too because you know they've played some very physical games as most of their games are that's the first game they have a real legitimate shot at losing assuming the eagles go into that one healthy well the eagles I think are very very dangerous now tackling the guy tackling atrocity and I'll throw a weird one that's too and and I'm you know take it with a grain and in the second half Rogers throwing it all over the place instead of running the ball short in a game and get out of dodge and that turned into an idiotic track meet but workweek right and they went in found a way to win that Green Bay game the packers play calling at the end of that game was pretty suspect but they went in there with a sense of purpose because and they're running back by committee thing which I thought was way over the top last year it was four guys now you've got I mean you could you came out of that game with Atlanta they were a mash unit I mean they were so physically beat up in fact we've talked about that on previous podcast on cousy against the right team could be an issue for them I'm not ready to throw a courageous yet I'm going to be there at the end of the year and they're certainly going to have their operative something I'm really focusing on now teams that were involved in a real physical game I'm looking to fade them the next week I think that's a real thing and Detroit beat them then they had the uh-huh sprawls in there a handful of times but when you throw sanders and Howard at you now that's a pretty juicy combination I think the eagles are the real deal and that's buffalo foreign one going into a by with a three game homestand coming up in a December scheduled that looked brutal but all of a sudden now Pittsburgh's just sort of coming together and maybe having the right play call something like that Phil Philadelphia going so if I'm looking at New England down the road here ah the Patriots here giants Thursday night extra prep time for the jets in a game that could get very ugly considering how belichick likes to run it up against some of us you said these games that are really physical I think they do take a little bit extra of a toll because even in college football nowadays these guys at graduate and go up to the NFL three games unless they just flat out have a bad day and teams have bad days there were only like three games where they were realistically in peril of losing a game Dagon at the time everybody was throwing a parade for Dallas in Dallas who's like endanger running away with the Division Now Dallas has lost two eagles of righted the ship and the other one they just hate each other who cares how good or bad they are Pittsburgh and Baltimore against another alley fight went for a touchdown you know it's great teams find ways to win games like that they're I can't see them losing more than two now if if that dietrich standpoint but I do feel like there is some kind of carry over to that next game take a look maybe the Buffalo Tennessee game was a backyard brawl saying stuff like that it's just not as physical game as it used to be and obviously as we look at the NFL you it's the same thing and by physical I mean you know battles in the trenches I mean the aforementioned throwback types of physical teams Tennessee wants to run the ball Denver wants to run the ball that vic fangio defense plays hard and fast L. I think it's a really excellent point that would you play a team that is going to hit you in the mouth and play more of a smashmouth style in the NFL maybe it's not sexy from Z. Making a change at kicker and you certainly can't blame them for that after this debacle here this past Sunday with Cairo Santos but that is an interesting game because those are wide receivers and DB's going at it there's still a lot of illegal violent hits and all that but it's a different kind of physicality now in both college football and the NFL it will be interesting the Detroit game with Green Bay we're into buys now and obviously you would think the niners beat the chargers in an ugly game beat a physically decimated eagles team but I learn more about Detroit in the defeat to Kansas City I don't know what they're doing it at the beginning of games but then they put the rally caps on and do play well in the second half they've kind of done that all year long kitchen eleven and a half elite and then it took mahomes with a great drive to beat them but over the years you know we're sitting here with staffers record against quality opponents Connecticut's and all those points that's definitely one on my radar here and the other game you mentioned this one already Tennessee in Denver here Denver two and a half point favorite tennis has been suspect but I I think this is another game was find out how good the lions really are yeah thanks to and by the way Denver Place College football's become such a finesse game you don't have smash Ralph football even in places like the big ten anymore a lot of RPO play action zone and I think we're gonNA see the acid test here because he talks about Detroit they squandered the game at Arizona ended up with a tie a Baltimore that's a division game since he's actually had really good success against these guys I think the Baltimore Pittsburgh game was physical I take a look at since Mariota's running for his life and you know every other game maybe the offense is doing some good things but it's a pretty Mike variable obviously guy that played in the NFL played it Ohio state we don't know how he feels about physicality that seems like it Kinda game even independent formula for Tennessee it's running stop the run and if they can't get Henry going Tennessee's got problems on a weekly basis but they'll be games like was on a bye Tennessee's got to go to Denver Denver really took their foot off the pedal they were they hung on and won but that could be a tough spot for Tennessee of the handicapped here this week the kind of game that could affect both of those teams next week assuming they're not on a by which I'll check here in a minute no and the other one two atom I would say and a long trip out to Nashville so maybe not a great spot there for the chargers but in any event here this Tennessee in Denver game I like to do this the game after the bills play somebody because I night next week at home against Kansas City so a great spot for the broncos at all whatsoever we know mile highs a tough place to play but that's probably the one they played against the browns and the open they're very physical team and their defense will keep them in virtually every game and you see the total thirty nine so the net race and that that's like a golf tournament to me that that's when you can get a forty fifty sixty two one shot maybe like a mat to Benedetto this week I know that you pay very close attention to those bills games you get a good look at the opposition that they played what about Tennessee here getting two and a half in Denver how do you feel like they match it's another another one of those nail biting Kinda Games but coming off what was a physical game against the bills I don't think helps them at all we make sharp durable blades and sell them at honest prices for as low as two dollars each we care about quality so much that we do some crazy things like by a world class German blade factory but this one I'm a not so good spot here for Tennessee the the one thing with Tennessee when you watch them other one pair with it but I think that really overall that's probably the best way to look at this game just purely from a mass standpoint of being able to cross through three and seven and what's the eight and a half that's about as good as it gets here especially again with that total in the upper thirties so one teaser candidate here to be sure you have to look around the card to try and find Reno the last thing in the world they wanted a by think that could actually be a negative well I mean they put the Sasquatch foot on the browns didn't either by didn't hurt them at all and as you look at this game here this is an excellent candidate for one of those Wong teasers where you get through three and seven with a low total tease Tennessee up from two and a half the one hundred yard fumble return is a fourteen point swing they should be Kansas City but they could have unraveled in that game they didn't they came back and got the going to be a fundraiser with them in the cowboys the rest of the year just to follow up on something you mentioned there and then we'll get to the game and and maybe this kinda applies or they're getting we're going to talk about but and it went to overtime Cincinnati I don't know what's going on with them they don't get the memo that the Games you know basically started the one in the afternoon trumped by the spot that Denver's in Tennessee hosts Los Angeles chargers who I of the chargers here obviously they're very banged up they play on Sunday nights a little bit of a short week wanted to be a low scoring game where points could very well be at a premium Denver's a tough team to figure out the O'Brien because you know early in the year they played well enough to get wins they played well enough to get some covers you know they probably should've beaten the bears in that week two game they should have beaten Jacksonville in week four then they finally put it a lot of open is out there that's the nature of the beast but it's another NHL season where talk to me and you know the middle of February when I think the point comes where he gets worn down because he's literally you know it's like he's got a job in a rubber factory but John Gibson is spectacular they beat the sharks who can't get out of their own way right now three one now they start a four game road trip on the east and I always loved teams trying to get off to a good during the course of your watch out for teams on long road trips in that first game they put a lot of stock into that to try to get off to a good start but that being said just like last year he proved this past game he's still got the ability to do some good things the problem is a win do you trust it how consistent is it up is scoring Dow what do you kind of seen so far scoring his up all last year the teams averaged six point zero two goals a game which was yeah certainly certainly seemed that way no hey listen flacco ain't gonNA while you're right but if he's got time to throw last year now the early stages of the game at least they believe heading into this week they were averaging six point two goals a game there's just into week six and I still don't quite know how trustworthy Denver actually is so you're basically saying they were the best Oh and four team in the NFL are willing nilly but at the same as last year Anaheim's at Detroit and Detroit's got off to a nice start Mantha scorn goals fun and exciting but here's Anaheim that everybody thought was just going to be you know flat out brutal and I'm either you're not throwing a break for these guys the they beat Arizona to one the Games here now got a pretty good slate on Tuesday night eight games on the docket only one really big favourite that's Calgary hosting Los Angeles tonight we got some pretty and in the beginning of last year he was standing on his head and then they they finally flattened out and went nowhere but Gibson's added again early on basically a pick em gate some of these teams are Willy Nilly going up and down the ice there's a game tonight we're generally that wouldn't be the case maybe the games themselves Games on the board we'll get to those in a second I just want to talk about what you've seen so far are there any betting English you picked up on with teams as scoring game got Anaheim on the road tonight and just let me double check real quick if gibson is indeed up Gibson's getting the start versus Howard tonight teams start the trade deadline start to work towards the playoffs and things ratchet down to tighten up a little bit that won't change but out of the out of the it is very hard to trust and a lot of good dots on the NFL side of course are able to work in some different games some spots consider for next week so you know we'll have some starting point start on a road trip the first game of a road trip really is the big one I think when you're you're handicap in these things in situations that come up whether discussions for next week segment but I want to transition over the NHL side of things here season a little bit less than a week old thing we've had what five or six days I watch the nights that Gibson's off different animal in Anaheim plan but I give Anaheim a big shot at a pick em price against Detroit there are GonNa be Games where they play really really well then they're going to be play play games we go man what was I thinking there it's a hard team to trust to play in that last game because teams tried to go five hundred on the road as you said getting that Roach off to a good start plus third game four nights tonight for Detroit so in the middle of I WANNA touch on this game with you here you mentioned San Jose I mean it's just it's a struggle for them so far fourth game and six nights tonight making that long trip tomato even move a red wings were playing good yeah that first game in the road trip isn't good angle and something I definitely keep in mind if you've got a team game under five hundred on a long road trip type for those two games with Vegas of that even though they just got pumped in both games I think they're level thirds the way across the country to Nashville I know nationals had a big number nationals probably not going to be as good this season as they have been the last couple of years but I sense of urgency here for the sharks out of the gate the two games with Vegas take those off the board and then even the loss in Anaheim you know there was so much I think that price looks a little cheap tonight yeah the one thing I would say the atom I'm I'm not going to get involved here but I think there's a defined I think there's a real sense of urgency would San Jose tonight so I I personally I tread lightly on that one all right one other game in the NHL and again focus was probably not that good and we just got done talking about how good Gibson's playing abandon cain was suspended for three games so cain makes his season debut the season you're kind of used to those early on in the year where a lot of these guys don't play in the pre season you'll maybe those are a little bit more difficult spot I know this price is a little bit shocked going through some of these games I know we're talking about Tuesday night game so maybe there's not a whole lot of time for listeners get the analysis of this but again this is the type of way that you want to start your hand hi you're rolling Burns and Carlson out there and there's some good young players on their couture's a terrific player I would think I would DECAF WANNA start looking through these games trying to find spots trying to look for you know especially from a situational standpoint there are people out there that do great work with the metric somebody like Parker that energy you know they they put it into the two games with the sharks and good for them they've had a chance to exhale whatsoever handful of games here and there yeah I'll tell you some teams do come in they have their rookie dinner or they do things like that but it it's it's not like you know these guys are in Hay wagon you know shirtless 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Riding the real estate wave

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Riding the real estate wave

"Mind tip is to be so forbid person I in a real estate agent second people identify with that and things will happen for the robot raisins to try to be not. An engine I you'll get. You'll listening to elevate the official podcast of elite agent, real estate industry sales, professionals, property managers, and leaders with thanks to our partner connect. Now, elevate brings you the best tools and strategies to elevate your results to download. You'll written action guide from this podcast containing extra tubes, links and shortcuts. VISIT ELITE AGENT ELEVATE DOT com, and for more information about how. Can make moving easier on your clients visit connect. Now, DOT com today year. Here is your host fantastic lay. Welcome to another episode of the podcast where we delve into some of the most interesting minds in business in in real estate for the very best tips and strategies to implemented, elevate your business. I'm Samantha Mclean editor late agent, and this week show joining me today is potts point and Sydney's suburbs. GAR AGENT WHO is China I've one point six billion in residential sales over two decades and is a mentor to many in the industry. So it's my great pleasure to welcome to the PODCAST Jason, Bane? Good Morning Yeah Good Morning. It looks lovely and bright and sunny over there. What's it's a nice day. Actually harm so. Points the office building brought to you right now. Okay and close to the beach. I heard the to save some pretty big waves in. Savings always been your I love hasn't it? grew up on the beaches of Bronte and ever. Die where my parents. Instead of. Neighbors. Cool after deep is on Sunday and that sort of thing the no met the. Some Glance Fiji why candlelight. Costume now. But. Had Fisher. They terrify. May I look? I, think had to. Do that now that I watched them that just taking. Iron, Hartzler, crazy bit like real estate yet. A little bit. Told me that year in quite a few advertising campaigns when you're younger to for like coca-cola raw look. I was my mother used to put me in an agency North ongoing cooled John Gibson said, you just toss away blistered soul she was nice influence positive influence on model on an ice to do commercials. And a few other things with the. It amazing interesting times. Ads. So. Eventually, you must've fallen into real estate. Did you choose real estate or did real estate cheese you actually? End Up real estate was school and I was GonNa just surfing around as one of my brothers friends was working inappropriate management rolling Langen Simmons. A God called then and the growl who is not related to Joe McGrath. McGrath here, real estate seeing Oxford straight little small agency. There wouldn't do anything else. So I didn't have any grades Xavier trade a he fought. As instant for couple of weekends and then eventually appropriate management role and lacing with laying Simmons and Pennington but Samantha completely honest. I did what I was. GonNa do was I was off. Just happened to be talking to him and he mentioned, would come along, check a suit on and help him out. I. Thought Oh sister six months. Yeah. Like a letter people. I Mike Up. UNDER THAT IS A. Good at it. Rotting in the English language Magnolia. Real Estate. I think a lot of have started the same way. But what did that I roll the that you still carried to this day you don't WanNa did teach me is I sorta just learn how to go to people shut property via bit more consistent with what I was doing most of that and gave me a little bit of stability also go out with. The guy that was there at the time giant humane that which is good. God is a sort of. A lot of bit from them as well. Not so much real estate will but just. Young. Impressionable econolodge, real estate because it allowed me to go surfing hanging out with my mites and disarmed. So being honest is I was Talent. Bennett was cried boss. He was a great guy he just allowed. Myself at. Different situations that you going to do. Was a good example. Let's talk about that. Where did she go from property management? You went to ground next. Best rat little bit. I went for John Gordon L. j. H junction. It was quite man joy game. I ended up working Joma Gras has commercial in silence and start to make money in those days. Still was young. Sotos bulletproof. started his behind a little bit eventually John. Probably, let me go a couple of times. Keep saying set me, which is true. Just a bit of a Hash A. Probably John Seven years. Great trying to work for a lot of fantastic people countries or at least some sort of training grounds will through Jani is to tripler and Jones. While I was doing options titled what He June let's talk privy to that way back in the early days I was just a big list. As well as good real estate. So let me go John's. And the left. Get traced drugs. Yeah. We'll. Obviously he saw the potential new because you are a goto agent. Now you've sold billions in property. So tell me a little bit about you'll business now you not see. Older mature might mistakes learn from them and I ended up with with a school with your Hogan? Another guy that grew up with the eastern suburbs go. Great McKinley. So I hot shit with those two guns. Now, we have a much bigger. Ripping in the area for us, twenty, five cities I'm GonNa Lodge role in a good handful. Oh Seven really could I would not want to grow much more than that. Happy with what we are and Wade provide really good local service to the area would become specialists in these sorts various pots pointless with pay. Bills. Doncaster just around the city French and I. Also, still around the beaches for people that are growing up with just want me specifically at the business has evolved probably forty five stars and loyalty to hr we get. Along. Really, rape business in the sense we've known each other or landlines who. At the time of night sort of Soda Myself, health went back to real estate. My late Twenties Thirties China to find my failures the anyone give new job. So it was kind of into I wasn't again looking to where it was just. A job yes. Sometimes fate brings people together. A. COP civilised mustangs electrons our starting from scratch again and nothing. That was the best thing that was probably a good grounding yet. Amazing and I was having look at your blog this morning actually like you just mentioned I political in terms of parts Elizabeth by dulling point, and there's some fantastic stories on your blog about Michael places in the area you are really like we'll have stopped it actually. Women that I saw a stat when I I was getting back into that area and twenty years ago and they streak caught pointless. Viking. Trust has an amazing history to it because it's transformed its fights, many times and a lot of areas head on you look at places like. River now anyway. From. is they check and I think challenges imports recognize and will serve the street because you promoting an area. That is selling the lost is still in the area silly what else it provides. So if you understand your area promoted or Ryan added research, you become a specialist in that area, not just a real estate. More about. Want. You selling comes with the pool of age what restaurant scenario. So. On I think it's really important to so the position over someone that is respectful and involved engulfed in the air, and so it really site and that's what article does H.. E. Two thousand. Sydney have abridged the fireworks famous head at Tandy on it. So I give them the audio not much of a Roth. I'll have drawn is for it to be honest. But I give them the ideas some points I know about it and they go research in a rhythm and we do that what that was. Look I mean there was an amazing what about the bills when they came to study plus on so many different sides many different colors. Dropping stuff to me we're GONNA come a crazy in the area and they ripping pot. On my counterpart matured straight right was. On the deficient. But this lady took is whole series of shots in the history of call. catling get silly. Again involved, they get out of you got an old guy in the area. He sends me articles of a building that he was involved with building ECHINACEA sixties and seventies stuff like that out restaurants in Mirror on. They hold get involved could have been getting thousand on that side so it's all debit twenties look I can remember when I was young I walked into the bays water brasserie and as Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise standing there it's not that Calhoun street to it I think at that time of saw website and there is you know You've got the East Cross. Box, it used to be cold Forbes. KNOBS bill was that before the wall which has meaning that it was sort of like an affluent place to go you suits, Thailand and shooting shine any job gambling Zazi houses and they go to the rises Constructed going through and I probably could take our members kid always reading stories about the civil townhouse and Otis liberties that ye stay there. That's our blood were. Amazing. So is there a memorable property that you've sold in the area what stands out to you? All style real estate said of anywhere from nine hundred. And up to the Modem you just mentioned the sable tennis now reproachable nick outfits hell the own. So will these recently changed in soon last when he is So, I've had the most success out of a building cool pomeroy and another building on by enjoy sailing in them because I really well. But anymore like I enjoy the oldest star real estate as well. Found hot getting to the oldest. That that eventually happened channel. So easy a beautiful ability like men. Will Fit Gardens Carinthia carisbrook in the Stanley Whole Beautiful So, I've got some gripe properties but I also enjoyed probably golden crude icon Moscow's of self pro ID to send a what is it about that building? It's convenience. Convenience is becoming a pretty important word in my area. So it's mcclay street, which is almost like with H. Front. If you on the beach, it's hockey it's abused both wise to the hobby of used the heads Musil, the white CD, it's very ser- bank bank seek sweet done, and his ruined in the middle of hunts point. So they've music many elevates supported crank really well run for cow just really convenient block of good size apartments with great views and providing every minute he concierge cool. saw is a really good wide living in being in the middle of across strikes airport strides city in it's almost in the middle of trying to let CD. So that's probably one of my favorites. Sans. Amazing. Trend at the moment isn't it? When you own leaves someway liked that everything is there for you isn't it and it's deliberate now that as quite convenient with restaurants and his lawns. Feeling up there and that's Thing to London New York's with field properties what sort of marketing strategies do you use to take them to market attract the mice number of people to them I? Don't have one why Samanta at the moment of fluid either the ease that is never want mind Selah property sometimes I'll have buys Ford straightaway sometimes ahead buys in the building sometimes, I'll be working buys of other properties. Sometimes, it needs to go to mock at auction expressions of interest I believe is one way anymore i. Used to know that we would try and look at the end of the Diet. It's almost like moving with the property that you've got sometimes seldom common price that similar monty hall arrived visor Jacks yourself do it off mocking sometimes, it required to get market great shots, these incredible I'm doing the bridge. So I of play in front of me these days I don't have a set way another this formula systems getting property sell quickly, but I'm not interested in that interest instilling well for. Having a great relationship as opposed to conditioning and getting it. So quickly as possible, it's just not my bag I. Know There's a lot of that going on A. Lot of training around that. So Yeah, interesting. You just mentioned the off market there as well, which is an interesting one particularly around the eastern suburbs. Have you seen a trend towards that at all but what happens when you become specialized in an area you comply chits saw if anyone wants my area generally now I can send them. We'll come to me so I can just by stapling properties sometimes it's about finding the right property on much whether it's the price. Are retiring to postpone it all mainly. Glad surely go coming down into parts point. So could be. Could be because of the skills like whatever the circumstances. You climb around with what you've got just tight, your autumn property and you. Would have together that can be done all faulk at roken science. And by being in one area people period of time, you give area of unity to do that show. There's a lot of items do it tonight I'll just say that now and then this other ones that just different made that program at marketing than ocean expressions of interest was the views because I think there'll be a lot of competition and we made that so much like a halfback playing in front of him at the time as opposed to thinking through too much that makes sense to you but he definitely I mean look one size doesn't fit all these days I know there are some agents that they have still got a set way that they'll do things. If it's auction, do it. That's probably fifty seven. If it's expressions of interest suggests that sometimes it's just off market about the bar on paying more than what I think can get competition game just a living breathing organism Smith. saw what wakes the it's all I'm in what's going on in the market was going on around you is loaded champion factors as opposed to just pushing them into your Holland doing what you want and I think that's something that will say more of. After just what's going on what's going on? That was actually going to be my next question. So how is covid nineteen affected? You'll be senator or effected buying and selling real estate in your area. So without cheating arrogance during the look Danell change that happened a couple of months three months so far. My best month real estate I've got to be careful to put this but the reality is surprisingly on stop doing I've been started doing prod points. I'd like to go setup voyage and Mike it's hand relate moss until that's. Bullshit as clear as day I just impromptu points added lots of the. Show looks real estate and undid according to Taivon show I was looking after the interests of the. Tenant and Just working with people that wanted to sell and people that want to buy and I ended up having an incredible couple of months, SAR Instead of just opening up houses on Lincoln's and. Instance. effected. Prices of China a little bit in some areas and others good real estate. So real estate that savoys in demand has really changed much. Of, Agent said to me that they actually enjoyed going back to basics a bit. The one on one conversation wouldn't sound joy beginning I'll be lying Ted said I. Did. Enjoy it. Once I got into the grooves change for anyone is something that the FDA right all the time but I've got on and it was then I understood The right decisions to be made with the government and what was going on in how will but in front of my fights democracy, and in this what goes on in front of which is a simple thing called supply and demand. So you can focus on just simply what supply demise going on from advice regardless of nine eleven go rhino virus will whatever else going on in the world there is that simplistic by Sikh rule supply and demand concept has been around for thousands of years, and so when you just focus on that and do the basic things, which is told to pick up doors did appointments type, phone. Things facilitate conversations, listen toll it works. Yes. Like instead of worrying about all the noise going on and he keep your eyes on your paper, the Soak about your day at the moment because I'm sure a lot of agents would be came to hear things about how you manage work life balance and stuff like that. So what does a normal day look like for you at the moment? As I get up really early on sort of A. Raw Not because I. Is My abandoned Milan. Of Coffee. Type dog for walks cifs up also I up or swim reward. Is. Not Ronald racing trying. Some chauncey says. There's no wives we get together come on key eight squad at. Trump had pretty. Good person if I can always and off to work on. Thirty eight. So the anywhere in then there's no zits on always on the funds always talking in the mornings and then probably doing a little points in the afternoon. On nine o'clock non cloth worker or seven o'clock if I can get out of the. He'll see study on that Ryan obviously that changes with auctions in some light appointments that you've got to do all want to get family Mandela Timing I. WANNA, get Older something true. Nine, hundred era guy. We're GONNA come back to work light a much sneak off at why. I'm consistent unreal talk until quality time signed able physically make. COFFEES, relationships of a real basic rules that John to give you some magic. Much than A hat to cope with wool. Can try this. Huxley Real Estate Will, follow up in the right direction as they sign, the loft becomes as it slipped so. There's a lot of stuff going on in the industry, but just want to check on how you living. You might actually work at going. That's good advice. Few Juggling priorities at any point during the day, what do you consider to be your absolute non-negotiables as far as just real estate anything non-negotiable after to get. Of photons away. Really need to get football for my son just love watching implying he loves the game a very, very deep negotiable for me is I just can't stand hot hunting. Also Texas, I have to make phone calls in Maple. Gushes tanks in April has its place. As I said, has its place in. That's sort of the rest of it. Is You WANNA make untold? Would you like to make me for a coffee can come to your place to this? You WanNa send his you may not only pickup Takes. Fun Rang. I need feel easy touch. We send identify understand that was read before I. Think it's too much. Now these days some people treat the inboxes I think is. Still out with inbox is I'll get antipathy. Probably Wise East I adamantly. Dance to. Cure. What advice would you give to younger agents that are just starting out career in real estate or alternately? What's the worst advice you've ever heard when it's too much invoice I? Feel there is a perfect walk all there isn't a perfect advice here. It's just for the wall or justice into. Little be severe his since two listening to everyone. What you want from someone visualizing it's really. People marching. Listening to. Visualize kicking a softball or focal site my eventually I think that's really Answer that question submitters debate around people that you can learn from not just in real estate in many many other levels and it wouldn't be in a hurry if it's. Hot If you lost in. That's fine. But if it's going to be a career, you're in a hurry offer similar income in. Expectation that probably out miss. So make it a potty loss ally with some good people die being Ari believe me will take care of itself. If you do the next right thing in his industry and really will is just a much integrate hanging around all. What does the next twelve months look like for Jason Boonen he's Tame. So I've been with just cokes and. And being met Mega seventeen years really employs some amazing people in Development Nights I. So people I with it become later on as being important for me I need loyalty. Thrived. Because I've got shortfalls and I named him around me I. saw it for me I just. It's one of these things in my life is to have stability in loyalty with stuff in the bay new both of. Just. Putting you on Sean, but he's been waiting for eight years. So Josie just started and Roy Nail I want to do and this is Sam really. On more of the site I, run a change or reinvent the wheel I want. To do more of the same a little bit more consistently cement so. Habits some flows through the system. Now she silkworm Oko People helping me selling in the normal sense. I'm actually GONNA Where I don't have pizza trucks. So that has just been achieved the last twelve months. After all this time of doing state of sort of worked out of it. And I want side. So I needed to actually discover heaven next twelve months. Can Me more? I feel like it's working I haven't got the complete Ansi an attitude that I think he's being present every day. It's interesting that you say you just heard someone new who's been waiting for eight years. Allocate and Various. Devilish team, how do you integrate someone new into that tame? Too much. He's personality with me reminds me a little bit. But he gets along with an actually end good-looking. So Jeff Him a really good night's is a good kid. He's not got a lot of Egos behind him. He's a humble guy. He's willing just to putting the odds is just going to hang on. The next off the bench and he's being with this Friday is working in other parts of isn't. So we know what to expect from him on. Reinventing the wheel just really wanting to be a part of that same for the first twelve months. Will evolve his got everything. He needs all the skills needs to be good strope ads really important because we have really clicked in energy this Roy abouts at has been gone Friday frightening. So. What the other one's doing some nineteen the. Property and I, on the debt two shots to the mind shots you right down to type of see him out. We know each other we go. It's GonNa be your now but. To. Some somebody's like being in a long marriage, right? Yes it does it does any advice you could give to your younger self. What would it be our ticket you? See. That would be what I'd give is something particularly behind that all. You. Didn't what was I hadn't been Saul icon. Nothing's changed in that respect voice now in the day, I met alone stikes heads up. I think I might insured fear we'll through self esteem, but logically go. So took me a while to liberal those. A. Bit. Might mistakes but then again as mistakes were meant to be night so I, it's hard. I think just the pine through growing up like everyone does nothing out of the ordinary, but she's not. Teaching you about that is not real as just out of growing I thought it was real back then but really. Just like really it's just like a big wave. Really. Oh, good. That's something I'm very afraid of Jason this brain. Amazing getting to know you a little bit better today in. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with their audience. If there's one thing that you'd like them to remember what would it be? taught is my tip is to be a person I in a real estate agent second people want. that. Things will happen for the road raisins you try to be not. You'll get. Yeah. Amazing. Good Advice. Jason Thank you so much and We hope you enjoyed this episode elevate with thanks to connect. Now, DOT com today you don't forget to download. You'll written action guide from this podcast containing extra tips, links and shortcuts. Visit a elite agent elevate dot com.

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Motor City Hypnotist Podcast with David Wright  Episode 15 Top 10 Movies About Dreams

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30:38 min | 2 months ago

Motor City Hypnotist Podcast with David Wright Episode 15 Top 10 Movies About Dreams

"You're listening to the PODCAST DETROIT, network visit www dot podcast detroit dot com for more information. In this episode of the Motor City hypnotise podcast, we're GONNA. Have some fun. I'm going to list my top ten dream movies of all time. I am a little bit older so there might be. If you want in there, and again as usual I'm going to be giving away a free hypnosis guide. Stay tuned. Get ready for the motor city hypnotist David Alright originating from the suburbs of Detroit Michigan he is hypnotized thousands of people from all over the United States. Do. But alright it's been featured on news outlets all across the country and is the clinical director of an outpatient mental health clinic located just south of Detroit where he hopes people daily using the power of it noses. Welcome the motor city at the Test David all right. What's going on people it's David Right back again with another episode of the Motor City hypnotist podcast back we are here in the podcast Detroit. 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An amp in if I'm mispronouncing the last name, forgive me. I'll go by the spelling Lieutenant Madeline Swag Oil who made history as the U S Navy's first black female tactical fighter pilot. Fantastic received her wings of gold on Friday. So this would have been yeah. would have been last Friday. The Virginia native celebrated her historic achievement earlier this month after she completed her training at the US Naval Academy. So the first black female to become a fighter pilot in the in the United States Navy having having a father who was a fighter pilot was a whiz on the four really back in the day I I kind of understand what it takes to go through that rainy and the rigorous careening that goes that these people put themselves through and the academic afford all congratulations to her. That's just A. Great. It's a great feat in in your good for her I mean. Again. Breaking barriers the first African American to become a fighter pilot woman. To become a fighter pilot. So Madeleine sweet lieutenant I'M GONNA use your turn your title. Lieutenant Madeline swingle, you are are winner of the week. Is Done. That's a great winter. That is I liked that one I saw that on like this on the winner. Yes. In the winter of the week. So so Matt Your Dad was a fighter pilot. Yes. Wow. Here's a back seater. Here's a Whiz. He was right weapons systems operator. He was goose. Yes. He was not on the Tomcat, but he was right on the on the Phantom and he he he loved it and he. Sold? Humorous. Yeah. I don't want to geek out on planes here. That was that he was on the fourteen at four at four four. Phantom. Got It. Yes. Yeah. It was a beast. It was it was pretty much a tank in the air. To. Air To ground. That's fantastic. That's really cool. I never knew that. That's awesome. So our show today, we're going to get into something that we really like because you know we like movies just Redo. and. This'll be fun. It'll be fun as well as being something that is interesting. The these are top ten movies about dreams. Yes. Okay. Top Ten movies that in some way have to do with dreams and the reason we talked about insomnia last episode. And this is kind of a stepping stone to our next episode, which we're GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT DREAMS So I thought we would start with with movies about dreams and then and then next week actually and I'll I'll tease it. I know it's early because we saw a lot of time left that we're GONNA be talking about dreams and specifically Lucid Dreaming Next Next. podcasts something I would love to learn absolutely listen to. So we're GONNA. Start. Out. I'm going to count down from ten down to one because that's how countdown should work. Yes, it is. Not How work it is it is ten ten down to what we're GONNA do. So, number ten on my list is Donnie Darko ooh, that's a cult. Classic. It is a cult classic and I was I was I had every intention of revisiting these movies this week. I didn't get to that one sleeping I've seen while. Yeah. Yeah, maybe fall. Asleep. But I, but I do love the movie. In and it is a cult classic is just got one of those I. Don't know that that that. There's a stigma to it on there is there is yeah. It's kind of like it's it's it's not GonNa win an Oscar but. It'll stick around with. Yeah. It'll stay with you for life and that's why a lot of these things a lot of a lot of. I would say a lot of weird movies that kind of kind of freak you out Damron stay with you for a while Damn. Paying ridden you. Were Yeah Know So, yeah Donnie Darko is number ten on my list in our countdown. Number nine is. Vanilla sky. Tom, cruise cruise penelope Cruz. Cameron. There's a number of folks in Accu, remember anybody it was quite a cast. Yeah, and again a very if. Spoiler warnings because we are GonNa talk about these movies as we name them off. So if you happen have not seen one of these. Church there's nothing there's nothing really new if you haven't seen them by now fair warning you've been locked. Months there's no reason for you not to exceed it right? Right exactly. Yeah. So don't yell at me if if you haven't seen. You have an illustrator was trippy because again, the whole premises you you get. You get through this movie and his crazy stuff's happening but then. You realize. I Dunno it's like switch when things start to rain string start to rain down on. Yeah. It is it's a very strange movie, but it's well written but strange in its own right in I should I was gonNA write down the directors on some of these because you know sometimes, there are just crazy directors like David fincher is one of those that just he did twin peaks and he did what a lot of crazy like reared. I didn't need you blue velvet as well. I think yes I think that was David Fincher Cameron Crowe did Bill Cameron Crowe did sky it seems like it just seems like a fincher type thing. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, Vanilla sky is number nine. Going down. The list. there. When I was ranking these on Mike Shy put that one here. This one there that one there this one here. But we'RE GONNA I'll go the way I have a written. Number eight is eternal. Sunshine of the spotless mind a movie I have never seen. You've never seen I've never seen that Jim Carey. And I Jim Carey but I've never seen that movie. It's kind of torn on it because it is Jim, Carey In that I I like him but but typically has stuff is his. His characters are very similar because our him right you know what I mean. What. An amazing cast in this movie though. Because Kate winslet. Kristen dern Don, Yup mark, ruffalo Elijah wood, Tom Wilkinson Dave across there. There's some really great names in this movie. Right I. Guess I have to put it on my watch on your list and it was very I and again I I like Jim Carey I like in not not so much just straight up comedy. But like like show is one of my another one of my favorites that he was Kinda goofy but but there were some seriousness to it. This is the same way. I won't go into the whole plot of the movie because. We we spend our as going through the line. All right number seven in this this this is a classic. Goods for you number seven is total recall. That's a great dream movie up. That consider what to do this. I know it's not from this movie, but it's not A. Total recall though was was a tricky movie back when it came out. It was kind of a mind blower and. When Arnold was big Sharon stone was huge I mean there there was a lot of. I got five kissed. Me Got me. Yeah total recall was was a great just Yeah one of those tricky mine movies if you just take the story and be like what what's going on yeah what was happening? That's a great column. That has good one. Number, six on our list that okay. This is a bit obscure in this is probably the most obscure on the whole list. Fourteen, wait one, four, zero, eight. I feel like I said John cusack movie. It is okay John cusack. It's been a hot real hot. So yes, I've seen it was a Stephen King Story. Yes and Simply put it's about him checking into this hotel and he's trapped cannot leave. And he's in room. Fourteen. Okay. That's yeah. It's been a hot second. I haven't trying to reminiscent try to remember the movie. It's I can't remember thing about it I accept the room number, I did what I read this as well. Because I've read everything Stephen King has done and. In it was it was a it really is one of these things where you don't know like again, you don't know what's real and what's not real sure. What parts he's dreaming what parts are. Real You know he's Some he thinks he's imagining things, but he's not sure he thinks he might be asleep but he might not be and one of those little bit trippy and and if you like just like haunted house type in nothing gory but. Again these locked on US haunted hotel room. Things around the corner in my mind is you know John Cusack Oh Yeah. I I like him as an actor and lot of stuff. So? Yeah. It's. It's so that that's again that's obscure. Haven't seen it. It's worth a watch like I said, it's not ever going to be one of my favorite movies of all time Gotcha. But since we are doing, you know movies about dreams and nine. Okay and The top five now these are these are my. These will will not surprise anyone I. Don't think. Number five, of course, a nightmare on ELM STREET Yeah? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That just has to be in there even though it's it's it's old it's from the eighties one, two, three, four, five, seven. And again, it's one of these. It's one of these franchises that took off and became kind of a character of itself. But that first one was really freaky when it first came out and and the whole again, the whole premise is that. You. Don't want to dream because that's that's where Freddie is. That were Freddie Krueger is in your. You don't want to fall asleep because he's there to kill you right first time I saw it kid gets pulled into the bed. Yeah it's freaky. Years later you watch game and you're like holy crap. That's Johnny Depp, get pulled it. Another. Interesting fact. Yeah. It's it's John Gibson. Go Yeah he didn't want to go. See Nightmare. Again, it was the time in the eighties there wasn't i. I'm aging myself like an old man, American Day. We didn't have the the effects that you have here. We have as far as like again, the premise was great whoever came up with the idea. Fantastic. Richard England. Just he he put himself on the map with that and he Out Yeah. Well, whenever I mean he's he's been so many cons I've been to England Robert Robert. So. Yeah. He does the kamikaze. He'll go out there and they'll shake hands in you know. Whatever but imagine being famous for somebody who's just like? Prevention makeup nobody knows what? Really well, he did come out at after that and characters where he was not made out. Correct. But at first, you're like who even know who this guy is, right? Yeah. creeped me out. In a dream movie that that's got to be on the list. Okay number four. As we countdown at number one here. Number four is what dreams may come. I was hoping you were going to mention this move evening. That is a movie that has been around with me personally for a long time and Robin. Williams Bean Robin Williams. Joss. A May just an amazing story. Amazing. Character the premise. But yes, oh no no no you can. But but again, that's what's so great about the movie I think Annabel ski or as his wife say her name wrong the her last name wrong but. Quick skewer I believe yeah and. He and here's another example we were gone from Jim Carey to Robin Williams. Robin Williams when he's Goofy like that in that role of just being a you know. I don't know. It's always like the same character just in a different environment. A couple roles, this is one of them that were just. Acted like. Nobody else could have done it. No. The other one in I'm seeing this movie's dead poet's Society Yes. Yeah absolutely. Even though it is a, he was a little bit goofy in there. It was just it was just just John Great acted movie. Yeah Oh captain my captain up absolutely and they're like say he has just a bit of silliness to the characters To bring the heart part of movie into it right because it really made you go pay attention to what he was doing with that character itself, but he was going through. As, well, trying to find his wife. After why it just and just the search in the connection and yeah, I, I really love this movie night I. Even I have to revisit that one in fact, everyone on these on my list. I've seen I've seen two of them honestly in the last week. Oh Nice. Not yet not mentioned yet but have to go back and watch some of these. I love what dreams may come the other thing and that is just the. GIG out on filmmaking school filmmaking school, but the cinematography and the the the whole. The whole thing was just a just a great piece of work, the oil paintings and and the way the she was painting herself. Kind of correlated to where he was in the after like Oh man is just. I can't say enough about that movie. I just geeked out a little bit. You. Know. You talk as much as you are. Okay. So four number four was what dreams may come. Good pick. Number. Three and. I'm trying to I'm trying to placed. What will will pick it apart mulholland drive. been a longtime. Yes. Very I don't think it was a commercial success far as being being smashed, but it is really a cool movie. Naomi Watts. Gosh. I'm not going to remember the other female actresses name. Do let's see. We have Naomi Watts Laura hearing Justin throw Robert Forster, Michael J., Anderson, and Miller. Lesser known actors, and actresses. And again, if you've seen the movie, if not close your ears for about two three minutes. But Naomi Watts has dreams of being being this movie star. and. And she I have not seen this moment. You have not no. Oh I have to now. Well, maybe I won't go into Jono. He's going to go into it the the whole point is she's she's in Hollywood trying to become an actress and she gets she's getting close to this other woman who is an also an actress and they fall in love and she's I. I'm I, know there's a lot of details in here that that I'm probably forgetting. But She. Wakes up and she's not. That person. She's like. Some homeless girl who's been stalking this other woman who okay I wouldn't say homeless but spoiler even. But even even like Sh-. She's she's a nice looking woman in they even made her. When she makes that flip she looked different. She just looked how you know just different and not very attractive. I like the only watch I like what she does. She did King Kong number of other things. But yeah, I'm going to have to check that one out very, very interesting and again, a lot of these and I'm not. Listeners on not promoting drug use but a lot of these. You would think the the directors were high or something. When they wrote some of these because they're eight thirty trippy. Mulholland drive is very, very tricky movie. Excellent always looking for new recommendations. Thank you for that. That one that one's worth that one's worth worth a watch for sure. Perfect. Next number to bring it. Really quick number two of this I honestly these first two are probably no surprise. Number two is the Matrix. Okay which one, two or three I'm just kidding. Just watch them on. The first one was groundbreaking. Yes. Not even just because of the cinematography and the camera usage in the whole bulletin if they invented the wikowsky runners. Yes. Just broke huge. It's the story. It's the story was just that that. We are living in a simulation. That everything that's happening is a dream your your. Unconscious somewhere. Hooked up to machines mix you question in this. Reality. It makes you question your existence. What if I told you? So the whole thing was mind blowing and and again I know this is another one that over the years it's been spoofed in and. Become a caricature of itself and but really at the time it was it was it was just a great movie I. Blew my mind when I saw. Yeah. Like just one of these movies on my holy crap. That was fantastic. And I honestly, this is one I've just watched over the weekend on and I just I was flipping through channels. Matrix is on when And you find it just wide. I just watch one of those movies. Yeah. Absolutely. WHOA yeah. Now, I can't say I'm a huge fan. But worked. In this movie character worked in this movie. And I guess that's that's just a testament of a good movie in good writing. Fair Enough Okay. So we are we're down to number one fairground our number one sleep number one movie about sleep on the list. And this this again should be no surprise. Do you have guess? I. WanNa go Stephen King Wanna go shining indoor the sequel doctor sleep that's where I'm going with that. But I don't buy based on your reaction. That's not really. I'll give you a small hint. Christopher Nolan directed. Christopher Nolan inception. Yes inception. Oh yeah inception. Okay. That was a very strong reaction. No no I don't. I. A dream within a dream within a dream. So yes, I that it's the premise is amazing. Yes, and how deep you can actually go hurry the and the timing between rights dream and how much time it takes that part of that movie I thoroughly enjoyed because they were going from to another right someone wasn't paying attention or they're on their phone or if that's what do and they missed thirty seconds of one part, they'll be lost. In, and that's what I like about it. Because again, I love movies that are complex complex and you have to follow on their lot of strings to put together. Like my wife watched it and she's like I. Don't I don't understand like. You gotTA. Put some effort into. Watching a TV show for half hour right but no, that's my favorite inception. The whole premise of of. You you're aware and the reason I'm ending within such not because I love the movie. That's one reason. The. Other reason we're ending on inception is because that's an example of lucid dreaming. You're dreaming but you know you're dreaming. Okay that's the definition of lucid dreaming, which is what we're. GonNa be talking about talking about next episode. Oh. Well, done service. Inception leads right into it and I'll tease since we have a minute or two. So so lucid dreaming is being in a dream and realizing it's a dream. Have you ever had that experience having control of your surroundings when you're in the dream? Is that correct? It's that's part that can be part of it over just being aware. That you're in a dream while you're dreaming. Okay. Have you ever experienced that? I. Don't know if I have okay I'm I really don't know if I have set or not and I'll. There I've I've. I'll get into this when we talk about lucid dreaming more and I did a project in Grad school specifically on this and there are there are a few times that I can recall where. I would find myself I knew I was dreaming and then I thought Oh I. Have Free Rein I can do whatever I want 'cause I know I'm safe I'm in a Dream Okay So. What did you do it? And that's a hard thing because it's In their tricks and remembering dreams that we're going to get into. Okay. I don't know I've ever experienced that. So yeah, it's very. I don't WanNA, Start Arab. Teasing this we're GonNa talk about next episode. All right. We're GONNA talk about Lucid dreaming and how you can use that to make real life changes. Because what I call it? If they're therapeutically I call it. Life practice. Okay because. You can talk to anybody you want. You can say anything you want. You can do anything you want. Wow in it's a great way to work out issues. That aren't going to affect things in real life. I know it sounds pretty far out. It sounds pretty tricky ball. Here's here's the thing listeners. You can actually go right to the next episode right away I have to wait another. Day. Before we recorded listen to. You'll be able to just jump right into it. So. Yeah. So that that's a great segue. So we our next episode. We're GONNA talk about Lucid dreaming how it works and how you can do it. So. Thanks for being here. Thanks for counting down our ten movies about sleep. Change your thinking change your life. Laugh hard run fast and be kind. I'll see you next time.

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