35 Burst results for "John Elway"
Former Broncos, Falcons, Giants coach Dan Reeves dies at 77
"Dan Dan Reeves Reeves gave gave a a lot lot of of credit credit for for his his NFL NFL success success the the Dallas Dallas cowboys cowboys coach coach Tom Tom Landry Landry with with whom whom he he won won a a Super Super Bowl Bowl as as a a running running back back in in the the nineteen nineteen sixties sixties referring referring to to you you know know I I have have a a collection collection of of football football I I would would because because winter's winter's res res coaching coaching career career is is where where he he truly truly left left his his mark mark on on the the league league in in twenty twenty three three seasons seasons with with the the Broncos Broncos the the giants giants and and the the Atlanta Atlanta Falcons Falcons going going and and four four in in four four trips trips to to the the Super Super Bowl Bowl he he took took over over as as coach coach of of the the Broncos Broncos in in nineteen nineteen eighty eighty one one building building a a team team around around quarterback quarterback John John Elway Elway that that made made three three Super Super Bowl Bowl appearances appearances breeze breeze moved moved to to New New York York to to coach coach the the giants giants in in nineteen nineteen ninety ninety three three getting getting fired fired after after four four seasons seasons then then in in nineteen nineteen ninety ninety eight eight guided guided the the Atlanta Atlanta Falcons Falcons to to their their first first Super Super Bowl Bowl the the server server not not certain certain that that you you look look at at it it and and said said it it was was realistic realistic mineralization mineralization starch starch started started that that this this team team has has been been unbelievable unbelievable they they lost lost to to the the Broncos Broncos Rees Rees brought brought controversial controversial quarterback quarterback Michael Michael Vick Vick to to the the falcons falcons and and eventually eventually fired fired in in two two thousand thousand three three a a statement statement released released by by his his family family said said Reeves Reeves died died of of complications complications from from dementia dementia I'm I'm Jennifer Jennifer king king
"john elway" Discussed on The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard & Rob Parker
"If you can even remember who these people are okay. There's a guy named trevor siemian paxton lynch case keenum case. Joe flacco drew lock brock osweiler. Ouch do do do. Do you know what those gentlemen all have in common. I think i'd do. Can i take john elway for five hundred erin. John elway brought them into the organization mr. Qb i mean. Imagine if i was the hotshot radios and i said you know. Vj's off tonight. i'm gonna bring in a co host and bring somebody that can't even speak the language or never watched sports. I mean. I don't know if that's the exact equivalent. But you're a an iconic quarterback. You can't find anybody. That's even a half competent. And what's so interesting to me. How different is his reign and is his regime. Looked at if peyton manning doesn't fall into his lap you know and that's something that i was just talking to producer rob about this before the show. You know producer. Rob and i were talking is last week with tim. Tebow and we don't need to relitigate. Tim tebow would that whole situation. But if you remember. They make the playoffs that year. They beat the pittsburgh steelers. Tim tebow went into that off season. As the starting quarterback of the denver broncos and john elway was on the record saying he is our guy. If peyton manning one of the two or three most gifted quarterbacks in the history of the sport does not fall into his lap. What is john. Elway's record as a as a general manager and executive. Vp of the denver broncos looks like peyton manning covered up a lot of awards for this guy so you know whatever. He's an iconic player. But you talk about general manager and specifically evaluating the quarterback position. It doesn't get much worse. Listen listen even just go back to the pay and then you you're right. He covered a lot awards but only did before year. That second year with the deep the defense ones that super bowl and holds cam newton a fifteen and one carolina panther team with the nfl vp. On it you know. They won that game. I causes turnovers. That offense mustard a robust one. Hundred and eighty four yards in. The super. Bowl led by peyton manning. So you're right i i. It's not even about being lucky. He fall he fell in your lap. You're taking your lucky stars and blessed that he fell in your lap other than that. He's over everything. Let's just say that he's all for everything. As far as a quarterback those names do case keenum brock. Osweiler like are you kidding me. And and just with elway what it feels like erin is that he instead of just building a great franchise. He's almost sadistically. Like gotta get a quarterback. Because i was no build a franchise. You don't see lynn. San francisco going after safety after safety after safety. He's drafted safeties. They've exactly he's building a franchise. That's what you gotta do in elway for it. Just feels like he's looking for debt. Qb when you let a lot of guys we could probably say teddy be fell into his lap. They wanted to try to do to. Aaron rodgers deal. That was on the table in rubert through everybody in. Nfl circles draft wicked but mean..
"john elway" Discussed on KOA 850 AM
"You know, you write down and capital you know, you play the majority your career down there and who pulled down there, man that will be perfect man, and he's sure came to pass and You know, it couldn't happen to a greater guy. That's nice. You guys got the like the click. You know what kind of the inside group there you guys could do like inside joke. Another great. I hope to be a part of it inside joke. Some days. You're so ridiculous. What do you come out? All right. No, no about I'm making pop culture references. Just for me. Ben is weird. I wanted to ask you about your guy Tom Brady winning the Super Bowl number seven. And I mean, listen, by the way, Stevens were doing all these film breakdowns. If you find 1/6 round quarterback that you think will fit for the Broncos, By all means, you know, let us know If there's a guy out there that can have the same kind of career path. I think they would help the Broncos out what I hear the hate coming out, man you get you think it's easy, E. I was ready for Tampa Bay. I was rooting for shack Bear and I was rooting for my guys. Mason and James, go is so who do you better? You know, I had to buy that. Let's just put it that way. I see. Yeah, I bet. Okay, see, but that doesn't really matter. If you were really sound like until you feel about a question us. Hmm. What's important? What's important here? Is that your guy, Tom Brady one another championship. What did you think about right now? Mm. That one. Not two. Not just go DJ calendar on me. I think he did. Oh, my goodness Missing there was him screaming DJ Kallen down. All right, Steve, tell me about your before we lose this thing. What? What did you think about the Super Bowl man? You know what? It was really a great game. Uh, a great defense of game, especially by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Um Yes, they couldn't get anything going and I've seen this play out and I was telling you while we're watching the game with here, that it kind of reminded me of wind We were in the Super Bowl operas you get Green Bay Packers, Nobody gave wasn't chance. Yeah, like my life the same way they think they have it down there. You know, nobody's given the greatest quarterback. To play this game. I thought of my quarterback John Elway. Uh, The greatest quarterback to play the game. Nobody's giving him cracking. You do that. I can use that, like he's not on the field. Right? You say it all. The most important decision on the field is the quarterback. And you got the greatest one out there. What you thought was my home. Well in fairness. In fairness, Patrick Mahomes has done some pretty special things. He did some special things in that game, but just didn't quite work out. He's awesome, but he hasn't made it to Tom Brady status. Shit, man. You saw one of my line man. He looked like a little kid man he was given but work. So that brings me to a very important question. Something that I posed by tonight. We're doing this again. Didn't he brought it up? He brought it up. All right, Steve. So this is the deal. So I I put out there The fact that we've had examples in recent memory Cam Newton was the one that I brought up. We've had examples in recent memory off quarterbacks taking a step back. After a tough Super Bowl loss, especially against an elite defense more pressures than any other quarterback in the history of the NFL. And listen. It was a tough day at the office for Patrick Mahomes. I said it wouldn't surprise me if Patrick Mahomes had a bit bit of Ah, ah little bit of a known us step back. Seems kind of strong. Maybe a little bit of a hangover after this. What do you think? Well, it's possible. They had him Officer Lyman that were her correct. Yes. In fact, they started Mike Rivers known Super Bowl liability at right tackle. Yeah. No, I mean I'm a realist too Well, you know possible homes. I've seen him play all year, So he's probably best quarterback in the game right now. But all the time. Tom Brady is the best. And you know Canon City they had They had some issues, man. They couldn't get going offensively of the amazing defensive game plan, Andre That's what happens when everything works out right for you, you know? And I I could imagine that Tom Brady gonna greatest quarter dead greatest quarterback ever with sudden these guys, they look, man, all the pressures on them. We don't have any pressure. Nobody's picking up the win. Well, I'm not gonna be anybody but Majority. The people were stating the case. Any team coming in and just blow out of Tampa Bay Buccaneers and I've been in a locked room. They were like, man. Hey, we're gonna destroy these guys that got him that much more height. And they get set up, man and again at office of line. They had some issues there. On my home didn't have the time that he normally have and go ahead. And, uh, you know, but right is trying to float this theory that Holmes is going to have some kind of Cam Newton like fall off after the Super Bowl because he lost wayward boys. I thought we were We were side by side. There..
Why 10 Super Bowl Appearances Won't Satisfy Tom Brady
"Hey thanks for joining me man. Good to be here. Seth wicker sham is a senior writer at espn and he's covered. Tom brady since his rookie year in the nfl. Words with you. Seth you are. Espn's resident. tom. Brady you've been covering brady for nearly twenty years. I believe at this point. You're the first person to report. That brady was looking for a way out of new england back when that was on thinkable and honestly kind of dangerous to suggest in the boston area. But your piece out. Today ahead of. Tom brady's tenth super bowl in tampa bay with the buccaneers. It actually begins a decade ago back in new england. What happened a couple years ago. I was in tom. Brady's house and we were in his living room and he was telling a funny story about bill belichick. It was a saturday morning meeting before a game against new york. Jets and bella. Check was watching film of mark sanchez. Running out of the pocket rolling to his right players it is heels and he had a wide open receiver about sixty yards downfield on the opposite hash. So that's an almost impossible. Throw to attempt. I mean few quarterbacks ever would try that throw even fewer would complete it and the way that brady told it to me. That ballot check was just watching the play unfold and he was like just throw it. He's wide open. Why isn't sanchez. Throwing the ball and brady's little thought bubble was hilarious because he was thinking. I would never even attempt that throw. Do you have any idea how i would look in. Tried to throw that ball. And meanwhile checks just like can't get even more open. He can't get more open. Just throw it in. The way that brady explained to me later was very interesting because he said i see each play within my limits at the time. I didn't really see the significance in that statement. But when you watch. Tom brady now aged forty three years old and the entire sporting world asking how. He's done it how he's been able to get another team to the super bowl. I looked back at that statement. And i found a lot of answers in it was brady frustrated with ballot check. Invalid check suggested as much. I wanna get deeper into. Brady's thought bubble there. I think he thought it was hilarious. He he saw it as a defensive coach who had no bearing on the reality of how difficulties throw that ball. He wasn't frustrated with ballot check. He was like a little amazed that bella check thought that that type of pass would be so easy i mean. That's that's a john elway throw. That's josh allen throw mahomes through. There's very few people who could ever even try that and here. Ballot check was talking about mark sanchez. Saying he's not going to get more open than that. Just throw the ball. As kind of an indictment on the quarterback where brady saw it as you know something that was hard to believe. Couldn't believe that that his coach thought that a throw like that with that easy. And when you look at tom brady look at the arc of his career. He's someone who's kind of always understood his limits and by understanding them so well he's found a way to transcend them so those limits that he has this keen understanding of and that being this superpower. It is something that we can. Plainly see in contrast to josh allen and john elway and patrick mahomes and lamar jackson. These absurd physical talents. And that's been clear set ever since we saw brady with shirt off to be honest at the combine in two thousand but because he is also the greatest of all time without real serious dispute at this point playing more super bowls than anyone ever by far at to ask if you fully buy his explanation that that superpower is in fact and understanding of his own limitations. At first i didn't. And i remember. I was once in his house in two thousand thirteen back when we thought he was getting old. 'cause he was going to be thirty seven when the season started. And you know he can't play forever and he said something really interesting. He said there's nothing that will be able to replace football. And hopefully it gets to appoint where there is when i retire in nine ten years and he said it so offhandedly and so smooth that it was it went right over my head. It was a shot across the bow. Here was a declaration to play until he was aged forty five and he someone who has made a mockery of conventional wisdom. And so i thought there is no way when he said that that he was someone who learned how to play football within the scope of his own limitations. But as you watch him play you actually see it on the field. And i think that it helps define him as a football player because he can't do what aaron rodgers does. He can't do it. Patrick mahomes does these sort of amazing acrobatic throws but what he can do and what he's always been able to do is pick apart a defense and bleed teams to death. And i think that that's what he was getting at when he talks about playing within his own limits because he's so deadly an accurate when he throws short.
"john elway" Discussed on WDUN AM550
"Is yours. All right. Here we go. So your first question As we've mentioned, Tom Brady has made more Super Bowl appearances than not only any quarterback ever. But any player ever. Which quarterback has had the second most Super Bowl appearances of all time, But just behind Tom Brady? Is it a Peyton Manning Be Joe Montana or C? John Elway? Let's go. Peyton Manning Incorrect. It was John Elway. Actually, That's what I was thinking. It made man hating, made three Super Bowls. One, too lost to the Saints and one of them jail. Joe Montana made four Super Bowls, won all four John Elway went to five Super Bowls, lost his first three appearances and then won his last two. Okay. All right, well, that Z. Okay, though, Cause you still got two questions left here and a lifeline. So here we go. All right. Which of these cities has never hosted a Super Bowl? Is it a Tampa Be Chicago or C, Houston about lifeline? All right, I'm gonna go with Chicago. Gonna go with B. Are you your bill look good With Bill That's correct. Chicago has never hosted a Super Bowl. Tampa has hosted several Houston I believe his hosted two Super Bowls. Tampa's hosting the one right now they're hosting the one that's coming up here and give it to the limit. Right? Right. All right. Well, here you go down to the last question all on you now, Mike. No pressure. No pressure, which Which of these artists has never performed the national anthem at the Super Bowl before Mill main. It's not an option on the Question on the seat of all right. So which of the following is never performed the national anthem at the Super Bowl a Billy Joel be Luke Bryan or see Celine Dion Elaine Beyond You Got it. Say you know why? I do not know what Celine Dion is a Canadian citizen. Ah, I've forgot about that American related. I wasn't big Celine Dion listeners. I didn't remember that She was Canadian Titanic. Well, yeah, I know from the Titanic, but I didn't. I'm not Don't know the rest of her work. Great voice. Great boys. All right, well, whatever, anyway..
"john elway" Discussed on KOA 850 AM
"Because we not only this year, but even last year, you know, doing a show like this and we occasionally take colors and we talk about the Broncos, especially during the Broncos season. We're not really a sports talk show, but we talk about the Broncos for sure. But how many times have we had people call up? And say, you know, they got to get rid John Elway. You gotta fire John Elway. Gotta get red John Elway. What s so my response to that always was given the current ownership situation with the Broncos. There's only one guy. That ostensibly could fire or remove. John Elway from his position. That was Joe Ellis. My point was You know, I've talked to Joe before Joe's I mean, I'm you know, I I considered Jo Mitchell is a good man. Joe is a very smart man. And I remember saying several times so Okay, So if you're Joe Ellis, and you've already pretty much established your timeline your timeline Joe, I think will be done after next year. And that's that's no breaking news. I mean that he's in his much said that he certainly has said that, um Publicly that you know he's getting close to the end. So do you really wanna be the guy that is known for the guy that fired John Elway from the Broncos organization? So in the answer that went with the current ownership situation, Josie only guy that could have done that. So these conversations that Joe and John had, I think Um Are fascinating. We're never gonna know We're never going to be pretty to exactly that. That all that communication but the fact I think it was, um I think it was Joe and John sitting down and coming to the conclusion or at least one of them. Having the idea and then convincing the other That this is probably the best way to go. You know, And my guess is Rick, is you your point it is, John said, and I communicated with John yesterday and he said pretty much the same thing. Our runway is not getting any longer on and I hate to hear that even though it's true because, you know Were born right there with him were right. I'm actually a little bit ahead of him so, but it is true, and I think I think the communication between Joe to John and John to Joe Was that? Hey, listen, man, um Do you really want to do this at this level and grind every single day? You're 60 years old. We've had four losing seasons. All the things that all of us know to be true. Let's get this before both of us right off. Let's get this thing turned around and headed in the right direction. Let's bring some new eyes in and Let's do it that way, But But in a smart move you give John the opportunity. To stay with the organization and you can you can say, you know, move up. To an elevated post. I mean, that's fine. Whatever you know, whatever semantics you need to use in this situation. That is fine, but you give him a chance to. He's a very prideful guy. It's not like yesterday it was announced that John Elway had been fired. Is the GM and no longer will be involved in the Broncos organization wouldn't like we got that news. But in essence The move was made, and John still has an ability to be involved in some of the big decisions at least listen to him and offer his suggestion. Eddie, he continues, you know to be a part of the organization. And yet you make a change at the decision making position off the team, and I think I think that's probably the absolute best thing. The best scenario that could have been carved out of this picture. Yeah, and you look at John away A and I know this wasn't an easy thing for him to do because he is super competitive. He loves what he does. But I had made me look at him or as as a man as a human. Fellow human And he's got grandkids now. Uh, he probably would like to do some traveling play a lot more golf. You know if you get to that point of your life, and you look down the road and go How many more years do I have? What? Yeah, I mean years do I have left and there's still some things I'd like to do more of our earth. Some new things I'd like to do. It made me look at him. In a very human way, and I'm happy for him that he was able to make that very tough decision. I am really happy for John. I hope we get a chance to talk to him. And it's not like he's going away, but he just took a heavy workload off of his plate. Being a general manager in the NFL man, That's that's a big full time. Probably 80 hour a week job for a lot of these guys and John Elway at 60 years old man. Now he can He can have a life on the side. And he could still he's still got a hand in it. He's still the guy who still John Elway overseeing everything. And I'm happy for him. The one thing that puzzles me and I wanted to ask you about it. Dave was the vic Fangio connection here? Vic Fangio coming off, too. You know back to back losing seasons first two seasons as a head coach, and they say that he's going to be a part of the decision. I'm a little puzzled by that, because you would think he's on the hot seat himself. Unless they think Victor Page Geo is got Somehow a future, maybe in the In the front office after he's done coaching. I don't I don't I guess I don't understand that. I'm trying to figure that one out. Well, I because how would I put this? I think that The analogy that I would that I would use would be For the three of us in this Studio. We all had a hand. We all had a part in making the decision..
John Elway to hire new GM for Denver Broncos, surrender final say over personnel starting in 2021
"The day here in Broncos country, John Elway after 10 years In the GM role is going to be changing his role with the Denver Broncos. He is going to remain president of football operations, but they are hiring a new GM. Alfred. What do you want to see in the new GM? Uh, I want to see E guess a blueprint. I want to see the of continuous blueprint of the same players being drafted year after year. Time after time. Even when you add guys in free agency, they all fit the same mode. So you know what the players look like before. They even become part of the Denver Broncos and give you an example. We could talk about the Pittsburgh Steelers, and we can talk about their offensive lineman. We know that they're big. We know that they're quick and they're not really massive man who stay in place. You have to be able to move out of the blue print. There has been going on for a long time, right so We need a blueprint. We have to have a blueprint of what these players like. You can't get a guy who is a second round defensive lineman who can't play on the interior of the defensive line. If you don't play a 43 defense in the 34 defense, you need to have a big style guy. So way get threw out some of the You know some of the selections that we've had in the past because guys were good college players. If they don't get the blueprint and the model, then we probably won't have them as part of the franchise going for what they have to be in that. Category. Jo Jo Oils What are we doing
"john elway" Discussed on KOA 850 AM
"If somebody pops out this year due to covert 19 concerns, Um does that does this year simply roll into next year from a contract standpoint? Yes, it does. The contract just told him so It'll go right into next year. And so he will start off next year as well where he started up this year. And so it'll just push back in. Put back the whole contract year. Okay, Good enough, John. Thanks for the time. We'll talk to you soon. You got a great great talking to you. Congratulations. Damn on number nine. That's awesome. Thank you, man. I appreciate that, John. Thanks. Thanks so much. That's John Elway, President of football operations GM of the Broncos. Um, so that John James thing On. I thought that was the case. But so his contract this year just stopped. And then they roll forward to next year with this year's contract, But he did bring up an interesting point. That is so true. Sorry. Caps gonna decrease because of the cove in 19 and the You know the hit that the NFL is taken. They're going to be some tough decisions that have to be made with respect to guys. I mean, the guys that That you have to pay because they are guys. They're gonna make their money. But the guys that are sort of fringe players that in the past, maybe you felt like you had to pay. You sort of got trapped in the pan. They're not going to get paid. Those guys were gonna be either taking Ah leveraged contract situation or they're going to be playing football somewhere else. Yeah, I think there's gonna be some haircuts and maybe some big names. On. You may have mentioned one of them too. To John Elway. That was a great question. That he would rather answer later at another time. On Damar Dotson has been solid at right tackle. I don't know if you can get another year out of Damar Dotson just 12 years. You know what he said this week, he said. This is the best locker room he's ever been in. Which says a lot for the coaching staff agree that that's a real compliment from a long time veteran like him. I wouldn't be surprised if he's back next year. Um, assuming he could stay healthy. And John James is going to be an interesting situation. I think that will come down to my guess would be As you said he's going to take a haircut is some regard Then the Broncos have the option. I mean, you could release him, but there will be dead money involved in that particular move that will impact your camp. I'm not a cap biologist never had played one on TV. No s o. I'm quite positive. I've fooled a lot of people, but not in that regard, So I don't I don't know. What? What? All that will look like, but the captain is going to come down this will. It will not hurt the elite players. You know the elite quarterbacks the elite edge pass rushers. Um in their prime, but it will hurt sort of the middle tier. Good veteran players, guys that in normal circumstances you would keep And know that you've got a solid Solid sort of guy. It will. It will impact. I think we've seen that already. It will impact special teams players, So it's It's gonna be interesting to follow next year. You're talking. That's on the second contract. Yes, Yeah. Okay. Yes. No, not all of them. There are plenty, Asai said. The elite guys there doesn't matter what the salary cap it matters, but they're not going to get. They're not gonna get banged. What the guys. I mean. You know, Juwan James, if I'm John James and his agent, and he really wants to stay here. I would be picking up the phone now calling the Broncos and saying Hey, listen. Um We know that this hasn't worked out from our end. We got hurt. Last year tried to come back Ranger. The knee on Lee played whatever it was 70 snaps or thereabouts. Made a butt load of money. Then this year, we understand what we did it for the right reason Covert 19 and our family concerns. But we also understand that we put you in a bind and right tackles so We want to stay here. We'd like to move forward with something we are amenable to now. You know, we're not gonna drop our drawers, but we're amenable to some sort of deal. That would be fair for both sides. Esso, let's sit down and try toe. Try to come up with that that that's what I would do if I were his agent, and I could talk my client into that. That's 100. Really good. Like I want you to negotiate my next deal. What is your deal up? Ah, year. You're getting that left Dave Beer agent. Why do I need to get involved in this now? I mean, I'm certainly they're talking to you. I don't think they're talking to anybody. Well, I don't mean like, you know, we have seen anybody. So that's what I'm saying that we're here. So they talking to weigh, just want we want to send out an S O s role by heart management. People that way. Just want to make sure that I mean, we think we're still in the air. Right, But we just wanna make sure because we really don't see we don't we see the same skeleton crew every single day. God bless all of them who come in here, the news department and you know, but we don't see many, if any of the West wingers. No, No, We think we'll be back in 2021. Well, we hope that our key cards work when we come back. Yes, That's why I said that yesterday. You know, I say that tongue in cheek but every single day Put that thing down there what it snaps and like, could we are gone for two weeks from here? That zoo called vacation? No, no, I know, but that's why I'm saying they're gonna be like, Oh, they've been gone for two weeks. We really don't need them lets some make their key cards work in January..
"john elway" Discussed on KOA 850 AM
"Do. I got me a small cards. Um, I got this card from John Elway. You have money there, Marge, your cards. I got rocket cars. I got the whole set of the Rockies. I gotta say something lower in on this one real fast. You are my heroine. My hero. My idol. My mother threw out all my comic books, all my baseball cards. Made me throw him away. And there probably would have been worth today. Hundreds of thousands of dollars. So literally, I worship at your feet. Marge, you're the greatest mother whoever Romany How many mothers have thrown away comic book collections that are worth 50 grand today. Oh, all of its large set march. They were good. I would give it back to them. But then they grew up and they never asked, And they just got put away. Sell them. Sell them. Wait anything Good for you, Marge. No 81 years old and that that collections of everything. Wow. All right, Marge, I gotta run. Thanks for the call. Can you adopt me? Oh, she probably has the other stamps with the airplane on backwards upside down horse? Yeah, worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. You never know what's out there. Hey, This has been a hoot. I'll be back tomorrow..
Denver Broncos GM Elway, team president Ellis positive for COVID-19
"Well Broncos president and CEO Joe Ellis, along with President of football operations, John Elway, have tested positive for Cove in 19. The team announced that earlier in a statement today, now both they're working from home. On now, the Broncos say contact tracing has concluded, and the exposure came from an outside source outside of the team facilities and that there was minimal close contact with members of the team. Now, those who had contact have been
Broncos' Elway, CEO Ellis test positive for virus
"Broncos general Manager John Elway and CEO Joe Ellis have tested positive for covert 19. Ellis didn't attend the Broncos game on Sunday, and Elway was feeling under the weather yesterday. Both are working from home and reportedly doing well. Broncos are confident that the transmissions originated outside the building.
Vanderbilt-Missouri is the first SEC game postponed due to COVID-19
"We welcome you back. Our is live and underway busy busy I our. Thirty minutes ago we learned that the first SEC game has been postponed of this twenty twenty campaign it will be. Rescheduled Vanderbilt Missouri scheduled for this Saturday in Columbia. Now, be December twelfth. We'll talk to coach drink in thirty minutes and get his reaction to that. So here we go more phone calls in a minute a lot of fans unhappy from every aspect of the winners and losers speaking of the latter. Let's talk about the Lsu Tigers two weeks ago Scott Rabble a came on. Wasn't ready to hit the panic button. Everything was calm. Scott's gotcha very scopes. Scott Seen It all before. Scott. Have you seen anything quite like the ending of Saturday's game? Good afternoon how are you? and got to the NFL Yeah that's that's you mentioned I'm kind of reminded of the and it's not a good time Lsu that ninety nine, Game Alabama when just food he tried to run the ball down like. John elway. Pin Wheeled in the air came up a yard short and and they you know they they threw the ball and the they did it. They didn't score. So yeah, it was. It was reminds me of you not good times for Lsu but you know. I gotta say the way lsu played Saturday. On defense but also on offense failing to convert a third down there really is kind of justice. They didn't really deserve to win that game I, mean they they you know they pulled it out and they would've pulled it out there. It would have been a win that covered up a lot of a lot of issues. So what? I don't know if it's safe to go outside I. Mean I know I know the version fortunately escaped the worst of the storm the other day was farther to the West but I mean what? What what is the buzz in your town especially both Pallini and and I mean three games in he seems like he's on the tip of everyone's tongue is it fair? Oh. Sure? Yeah. Absolutely. I mean this is the this is the defense that You know this change Dave Randall left defensor longtime defensive coordinator WHO's hard under? Les. Miles. You know the several years ago he left me the head coach at Baylor. So they had to hire someone like forced out or anything. So hopefully knew who was here under miles and those first three great years in the Mouse Oh, five Oh, six Oh, seven the end up with a national championship and you know just it hasn't worked at me. This questions is Bo behind the Times is not adjusted to those are some great defensive back then with Clinton Dorsey and Tyson Jackson and and you know you're a great players like that got a little on Landry secondary great players like that, and you kind of wonder you know the Adjusting but. It's just been Y- coaches you're on himself is trying to put it all on him and the coaches and they got a coach better. You said that, Saturday, after the game you set it on his press conference today, they just lost followed. They're they're good players on the Stevens, their high NFL draft pick on the defense Derek Stanley Jacoby Stevens to real cox the transfer for. North. Dakota. State people said he might have been a first round draft pick. Had He come? Out and said of transferring Ali Gay Defensive End they lost a lot of great players, but this shouldn't be this bad and aurons You know famously said, then the all season, the defense look better in practice than at any time last year, and obviously that is not the case and they gave up eight plays a twenty yards of more. Missouri averaged almost nine yards per play and five and a half yards per carry it and it just that's just not. That's just not winning football and worst of all they all she just looked. I saw gene gene Chizik said after the game. So you. Look, like on Defense Soft and lost, and Lsu looks like both unfortunately for them. By, the way everything you just got through saying you could replicate for three or four other SEC schools except none of them are the defending champions like Lsu. Scott we're three games in I. Mean we all know that and I'm not sure how much you can value. A. Win Over Vanderbilt Right now considering the state of that program. But as you look ahead I, mean you don't look any farther than this weekend against Florida. LSU will need to score seventy points to keep up with them. Immediate? Looks. That way and I'm not a betting Guy Pa, my government I think I've looked at the over maybe go for that Florida's defense looks pretty challenge to Alabama wins and gives up forty eight points to stole miss. But the the disturbing serving big frail issue. Yeah. Everyone's having trouble defensively No question. Do you wonder if that lack of spring football or the proper time to prepare in the off season has hurt them But you know you look at that once you give six, hundred, twenty, three guys and the Mississippi State, history has been dreadful offense against Arkansas and Kentucky the last two weeks Missouri scored like I think three touchdowns combined the first Games averaging like fifteen points a game against Alabama Tennessee and it just go wild lsu just look great. I mean that's that's the part. That's that's extra disturbing prelates pans and like the lsu fans always. Always wanted this offense obviously, they complained for years and rightly. So by the the plotting less miles offense, but there's a lot of pride in the school, the the the the billy cannon is the star up in you know and and now Joe Borough and players like that. But the tried is always been the defense, the Chinese bandits, Tommy Tests Inova Win Dorsey Laurent Landry mentioned, Patrick, Peterson, Taran Taran Matthew, and what else he doesn't play Great Defense I. Think this is this is like a core value of lsu's program that is not being being held a lived up to, and it's it's very troubling Tila lsu probably would take a little less offense for some better defensive as. Scott Realistically I mean this weekend looks like a long shot I would have to say I mean still Alabama. Out There Auburn out there. South, Carolina am I mean everyone knows the schedule? I mean before the season some might be hard to win them all but maybe maybe eight or nine. Where's the sliding scale right now? Ball I don't know it's sliding really. Really. Bad way down the hill. You know a lot of hills here in Baton Rouge but he found it. It's sledding Hill that way. Down Victory Hill Yes for the team marches down normally before the Games by Tigers stadium is not vitriol right now I I like everybody else said like the six games else who's GonNa win and four games where the season's going to be decided Alabama Auburn Florida and Texas a&M, and right now I don't think he can after South Carolina just banning by the same score Lsu did Arkansas has played. She's gotTa go to they'll South Carolina, comes here in in two weeks I don't I don't think. There's any Sherwin left for L. Share on the schedule I don't think they're gonNA go one nine but I think right now you just gotTa. Look at what can you do to have a have a winning season they're still good players There's on this team in town they lost a lot from last year obviously, but you know the they've got to. Change, the things coach today coach talk today about simplifying both offense and defense. Again remember the offense was Owen on third down Saturday that's a pretty bad step to although this court forty-one points should have been enough to win, but it's still some really great players on the House Brennan. Has Not Been, Joe Borough, been very good. You know he's had over three hundred yards passing game over four hundred yards Saturday tariffs, marshalls been tremendous hit two, hundred, thirty, five, yard service and three touchdowns Saturday. So this, this isn't good players in the team, but they just got to get tougher and and find a way to grind out a win somewhere and and this is not entirely similar fall I gotta say from twenty. Dissimilar from twenty seventeen she lost at home Detroit and went to Florida the next week and they won the game I'm not saying I'm not predicting she win. But this have the size, a lot of field of that when they kind of looked tougher and more determined and they found a way to win and they've never looked back games on order on, they're gonna be hard pressed to avoid doing that obviously late this week. He had I wouldn't call it a charm to existence because now that you mentioned the troy game and there had been some ups and downs but certainly coming off the best year ever how is he handling the defeats? A He's he's trying to take a lot of the blame on himself and deflected from his team Not exactly deflecting from the assistant coaches said, he's talked about, hey, on defensive we just have one coverage and one one formation. Let's do that. Let's and you said. Some things on offense too. I think he's kind of talking about Scott Lenihan, the new guy, a passing game coordinator WHO and Red Zone specialists who take the place of Joe Brady who who was on the staff last year and of course talking about Botha? Lenient? Coach, and he said something telling today I thought that you said, you know the most Ryan. The defense but he he's he's going to you know be checked in on every formation every plan that they use you know as a defensive line coach that's his forte he he's going to be I think maybe a little more hands on with the formations they use and the and the and the coverages, and but some of that are doing well, he's Got Thrown out I think that. This is the defense he wanted this is he talking about being wardrobe four three and they've got a great. Turn of Russia there plus six turnover ratio they're doing very well at that the they're causing some some big plays in that in that regard and turnovers just can't get off the field and can't Can't stop people and giving up a big big yards on the ground, and then these these huge places. The elected eight plays a twenty yards or more Saturday and gets very, which is
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"Patriots Pau Spartan here from the Midnight Patriots. So, one of the. Feel about anchored now. When we started this insanity, we always tell people. The reason we do this is because insomnia sucks almost as bad as tyranny. We would have these conversations between ourselves the group chats. Throws and things like that. We thought, hey man, you know we should just record a podcast, but the more we looked the more expensive became. Get Cross anger. Anger gives you all the tools you need to do this to make your voice heard and get your voice out there. You have an opinion you gotta use anchor everything from recording to editing to distribution that you'd be all the tools that you need. To allow you to record your podcast right for your phone or your computer. Anchor covers distribution by getting on Apple. spotify and many many others. I mean how you can make money right from your own podcast with no minimum listenership. It's everything you need in one spot in one place simple at effect. So get yourself anchor make voice her. Midnight Patriot, nation welcome to NFL. Mid Nitrates it is you boy spartan here with the the ever ever pot and flaming premix A good to have you as D to ultra. Sports nerds. In specifically football cards. On the end on the. Patriot staff. Phoenix tonight decided that we were actually GonNa do kind of a deep dive into what is pissing us off most about NFL and. Most pro sports in general to be quite honest. But we're GONNA focus on the NFL in this particular case because. Both Phoenix, myself have. A long history of both fandom and and. Playing Sports, we have a unique appreciation of what it takes. More it doesn't and how it is devolved into the into this shit show that it is. Just, we're just GONNA go from there. So Phoenix you had you had some thoughts that you wanted to start with go ahead. Well specifically. I I have a major gripe with the NFL in general. Being more politicized. And the. Let's End Racism. Okay, I get my left. Black lives matter. No sorry. They do and I agree with the message just not the manor which is being delivered. We've said that before on the organization go ahead. Exactly. All of a sudden you know we have a organization. That's Through much. Yup You can't do this. You know we have this. AFOREMENTIONED SCAMMED EMMA GOING ON. You can't do this. You can't do this. Well Yeah you can't. Okay. And then we have the social unrest of the nation being thrown into. A sporting. Venues. that. For All intents purposes let's call it. What is it's an escape. It allows us the viewer. Fan. That three four hours. Sunday evening Monday night whatever that. It gives us that escape from eager live love get up go to work and deal with people you come home you deal with cranky wife and kids don't listen dog that Shit's in your shoes. You've taken that away. And now have made it. Well we got to get on board with this. Well, we're relevant to. We're a large. Organization we goner? A multitude of platforms. That we have viewership. There any given? Day that we have competition So now we're going to. Paint messages in the end. We're going to have. Athletes will we're going to kneel to show solidarity. I got a huge problem with that and for our listeners I'm sure you have your own platforms as well. The American flag comes I stand for Gore country you back your country everything else second berry period. That's my thought on that. That's the way it is. Unfortunately when. The NFL NBA MLB hockey underwater basket weaving has become politicized in what we have to show solidarity with this. I have a question. Are you showing solidarity four? Message. Or are you As the NFL did let's put. The name of a known fell one on a helmet. Let's. Let's praise this guy because shot back when a an. Amplifier point in accused rapists. Is someone with a warning active warrants? For Rape Yes. So here in my eternal gripe with this, that will probably go down in flames just like the rest of them. Why are we? In fact. Standing behind. Someone. WHO BREAKS THE LAW? WHO does walk. Yes. They didn't listen. They got shot in the back whatever. House we say. Extenuating circumstances came to be that this ended up how that was. We have to stand behind this person as a form of. Instead of. Waiting, for all the facts that come out be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. And then move forward from there. Well. That's the real question. Isn't it is is you know? All we've seen is what has been allowed to be released. Okay I mean look I think in his thing I agree with everything you just said save one thing. Okay. I don't think demand deserve to be shot seven times point blank in the back now. Having said that. He has an active warrant for his arrest, what he should not have done to prevent that whole situation was to surrender. Get handcuffed and be taken into to engage whatever process there is. Okay, you don't fight cops in the street if you do. You mess with the bull, you get the horns. Okay. He's admitted he was armed. He's admitted he was going for a different arm- armament. Okay. And what do we expect the COPS to die? I don't think so you know I'm. In the eyes of them, that's probably what they're saying. Well. Preserved by life fuck yours. Well exactly. The COP Exactly and and my my attitude would be y is either one wrong as far as you know, one one has a duty to behave professionally the other has a duty to follow the law. Or face the consequences you know it would have saved him from getting shot in the back if he had stopped if he turned around if he'd Toronto. Surrendered Okay Understand that I understand the Warren has has since been vacated, but that's beside the point. When a COP's his I warrant for your arrest I mean you're supposed to do is say what am I being arrested for? Okay I'll go peacefully ears might whereas my lawyer yeah. Instead, of no fuck you fight you tooth and nail, and if get away up the war still there, but you don't have me. Right. Exactly. Exactly and you know I got I got I got a I. got a interject because you know. My personal opinion is if you probably agree Is this. Cancer of case. started. It may have it may have had other sources. Okay. But its primary. Protagonist, in growth factor was Colin. Kaepernick a few years ago and I don't say that in a flattering manner. Okay. I've said it before the my opinion that Colin Kaepernick is the biggest fraud on the planet as pertains to the NFL. At least Ryan leaves when he signed what Leash Langley, when he signed, he knew he was shit approved the wish she had any faded off politely into the sunset because he saw a gay. young just tell the story as I. Recall it and you you you feel free to chime in when you. When when you when you if I'm off base okay. A lot of people don't remember this but you and I as King's football and many things in life have a have a memory quite a bit longer than than your average goldfish. Okay? I remember watching the first incidents of Cabernet court on code kneeling and he wasn't fucking Neil. He had just had an argument with his with with the head coach and I don't think it was Kelly. It may have been horrible. But he had the yard, the head, the argument with Joe it was horrible wasn't horrible yet. So out of you probably saw the clip to you can't find it now because it's Youtube everywhere else. He had he had A. Verbal altercation with Harbhajan and I can only assume in what we were told. You know later was that harbaugh. told him. No you're not starting a colon Cabernet got very unprofessional and like the diva quarterback that he is. Turn Turnhill stomped over to the bench slammed his helmet down in plop disaster down on the bench now by sheer and toll coincidence. Anthem had just started. The anthem it just started when that HAP-. ACI. I know you remember this is I think you and I talked about this at the time that it happened because we were mocking him because when I weren't weren't quarterbacks when we played the game and we know what divas they are even princesses, they are this. If you remember and I know you do espn headlines a couple of days. Later words were that Colin Kaepernick was going to be fine. Substantially for multiple instances of unprofessional conduct conduct deleterious to the team. Leading up to the altercation with harbaugh that happened where he plops his ass on the bench you remember that ideas that. Dakhla and it was it was post practice I. Believe I want a That later that week that a reporter asked him. About the state of the fines and Based on his lip based on. Let's just call it what it was temper Tantrum. Okay. And that's when Cabernet sold all this bullshit about he was doing it in protest etcetera etcetera and he played the race card, which we all know the press eats up hook line and sinker and never ever questioned. Ever On. Me It came across and partner Jackie No, you're good. The the instance of which we are discussing out my first thought on that was yes it's a temper tantrum and I'm about to be busted for having a temper tantrum. So allow me to make up some juicy. To Garner more attention to the fact that. This is happening to be Gimme Gimme. GimMe and I lost my starting spot. Well, that's the that's the point I'm making. He played the race card to avoid fight. For on professional conduct and he was he was outright given a past. I don't think he ever actually even actually got find something that was overlooked too is that is that nick is not a person of color is really not us he is a multi-racial okay and part of that find that he was going to get for unprofessional conduct was calling somebody else on the field the N. Word back can't say here because quite frankly it's feds even and number two I don't WanNa get show you monetize but that said that was part of that that was part of the fine to be levied. The fine was vacated. Okay. Because he was successful, you successfully played the race card and got out. Okay and this whole shift started this snowball at that point. as we as we all know you know he was he was basically the the the face man for chip. Kelly's offense that you know while short term short term effective was absolutely not sustainable. Okay. We all know that. And you combine that with the fact that the guy had. Just over just under a shooting just over sixty percent for completion rate. Even in that offense at his best day, he was a mediocre quarterback surrounded by a bunch of very talented people. Okay. So now it has become the fact that you know this whole narrative has has escalated by people that that know nothing about the actual game because. Football is simple. It's not easy, but it's simple. Is. The ultimate meritocracy. Okay talent hard work equals success. Okay there's a lot of guys. We can probably point him out on the field you and I. There's a lot of guys that that. That just simply outworked their competition to get where they are I'll give you. I'll give you one prime example and right now they call him the goat Tom. De. Tom. Brady was drafted was I can remember he was drafted. He was I. Don't think he was Mr irrelevant. But he was real close. He was the very bottom. Yes. Six he was very close to the very end of end of the draft in and he is he outworked is is competition. Now granted drew bledsoe. If people can remember back set for was not a very good quarterback anyways. He was only borderline better than Ryan Leaf and he went down Tom Brady took over in the rest as they say district but. No? One ever questioned, Tom? Brady's work ethic in those dynasty years in in in New England. Okay. Because he outworked he, he worked his ass off. Yes he was talented. Yes. He's physically gifted but that plus hardwork dedication to his craft turned into in the in the the hardware for the hand so to speak. and. anyways back to my point about Cabernet. All, these people talking about how Catherine doesn't have a job because he's bad for business or half rights, they're only half rice. Now I posted this to the page I know you read you probably it is I. Think I read this week we went to this is from ESPN DOT COM itself. Okay. ESPN DOT. com. The actual date this was published as March twentieth two, thousand seventeen. By their staff writer Kevin Seaford. and. I am just going to read it. I'm. GonNa. I'M GONNA. Try to read the whole thing. I'm trying Doug only try to read the parts that are relevant. But those those listening. If you go to our face, a bitch facebook dot com slash midnight patriots. You'll be able to find this article and we shared it the title of it is calling Kabir Knicks based problem performance. Politics. Day It starts off real simple. So Don't over think why Colin Kaepernick is still a free age simply put years have passed since he was ineffective quarterback he's twenty nine years old has succeeded in an unsustainable scheme as part of a well populated group of former starters who also remain available at as this week began now getting that was march twenty, twenty, seventeen. So they were in free agents. Okay. Let's. Let's move on here. It's blamed Colin Kaepernick's unemployment on his protest is to misread the way NFL teams make personnel decisions. that. I don't think there's any more true statement on Earth. Do you I? MEAN THAT'S Yeah. So it goes on protests where does say at any type of business that if you have lackluster performance, did you are guaranteed two hundred million dollar job? Number One and two I was GONNA say there have been divas troublemakers in the NFL before? Okay and Kim's and? Lewis Terrell on. You know. List goes on and on. And let's not forget the NFL is the lead cut an outright banned ray rice running back from the Ravens for domestic violence. Okay. Before he was convicted. Suspended A. Peterson for disciplining his child. Yeah for banking hit saw. Yeah. Okay for spanking his own child. Okay. So now they put criminals names on their helmet. so by but I digress I digress let's get back to the article. Just to just to go just to go. Teams are swayed I by players potential or lack thereof to help them win protest or not kapernick would be under contract. Now, if he had demonstrable if he had played demonstrably better in recent years. Let's look closer at where capper nick is as a quarterback and why that has left him sitting in a group that also includes fellow free agents, Jay Cutler Josh mccown Ryan Fitzpatrick and Robert Griffin the third. Again keep in mind. This is from shelvin teachings of this is three years ago. Okay. But. It goes on to some of the reason I liked this 'cause this is based on facts not just you know a bunch of race baiting bullshit. Kapernick grid NFL success came as part of the San Francisco Forty niners read Options Skiing Twenty, twelve to twenty four. In those three years, he rushed for Fifteen, hundred, seventy, eight yards which okay. I will give credit that impressive gudgeon impressive number. For. More than any other quarterback with the exception of Rush Russell Wilson Cam Newton so let's just call it what it is. He was third rushing quarterback against. It breath. Okay. I will not fall the net. His. Success. He threw more than twice as many touchdown passes interceptions helped him compile eighth best time quarterback rating in the NFL seventy point to over that period. But even then capper nick was one of the lease most. Least Accurate quarterbacks is sixty point one completion percentage ranked twenty third in the NFL and has percentage of off target throws judged on video by espn stats and information ranked eighteen. So. Based on just the stats alone he was a middle of the pack quarterback middle of the pack. Does that mean that he's better than half the other guys absolutely does that mean that that you know the drama he brings? Outweighs his skills is still setting the money in the monetary investment probably. Okay I agree or disagree just on that statement there. I would agree that yeah, he's a middle of the road quarterback. He had some skill. At. That position. That offense. You're right. Would it work somewhere else probably not but that's Changing teams, you learned their offensive scheme you learn what they do best blend yourself into that and you become part of the team not a one man show. that. I, mean you'd have to agree that most had coaches that have half a brain would go sixty, four, sixty point one completion percentage. even if you're even if you're going to do A. A bootleg offense even if you're going to do a boot offense. Play I can. Still going to have to be better than sixty point one. Periods I mean just entered discussion. Quarter, you're talking college level quarterback. Even if you're on a naked, do either one side, you're still depending on receivers tied ends backs to be open at some point that you can actually say, Hey, he's opened easel bewitched of the two weevils need a cheese her who exactly exactly union able to identify and hit those targets or at least give your guys in a position to succeed you know. I'd like to. Bring to Light I. Not Very long after capital started his quest masqueraded by some of justice whatever you WANNA call it only because he got in my mind and correct me if I'm wrong, he got busted out period. That's just the way it is you through Tantrum he got his ass busted will now I gotta cover with this to cover that with this, and then all of a sudden we have one big lie that snowball into the entire solstice thing that's going on currently. You're. Going to look they had to go. He ended up in Washington. In front of US rest. Explaining his side of everything that goes on great. Denver Broncos of whom I am a fan. I it. Does not get into that because. Pirate about that right. That's ultimate digression. Go ahead, John. elway. It had in fact offer Catholic before your contract. said. Hey. COMPLA-. Can come down because it wasn't enough money. Wait a minute. Let's look at your stats a sixty sixty point something or other completion percentage. Yes. You had fifteen hundred yards rushing, which as we've discussed is pretty phenomenal quarterback save. Russell. Cam. Newton. Maybe rg three hundred healthy. That's stretching it buttle throw it in there. Anyway. I. Really. Wanted to see if capital could be plugged into that offense and sell. Well, that's the that's the real trick. Isn't it? I mean? End and let's be clear. He turned it down because the salary was too low, not the money. Or maybe remember correctly, he turned it down because John elway wanted to load the one at the loaded up with incentives and say, okay, you exceed this mark you get ex you this you get what we go to the playoffs and when you get Z. Experience Cetera so wasn't of excellent. Yeah. But exactly to perform at your very best as cut your in the NFL, they don't take ship nothing while the that's when the NFL stands for not for lofts. That and let's be honest. It was not only. Did he had he had to meet performance criteria he had to me behavior criteria, EXAC? elway and the broncos weren't going to stand for this s J. W. S. J. W. Crap. That he's pulling. So let's go back to the article real quick. It'll it'll. It'll really start driving the point home. Okay. So I believe he started kneeling rating was two fifteen. So. Article Goes On. The issues that we were just talking about the increasing. Or decreasing completion percentage decreasing accuracy except sets. Those issues intensified in Twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen amid forty nine ers. Coaching turmoil in talent drain since the start of the twenty fifth season Kapernick ranks get this. Last in the NFL thirty five all five passers in off target percentage is off target twenty, two point six percent of the time which when she is the least accurate quarterback in the. League. As of the twenty. Fifteen. It goes on. Is Complete. Complete is completion percentage ranks number thirty, two at fifty, nine point one. He was still one of the NFL's most productive Shink quarterbacks, ranking number four total yardage over all those years but it didn't mitigate his passing deterioration and this is in my mind. This is the absolute most important line in the yard or ear and an adult. There is no more important attribute for quarterback accuracy especially for a free agent who is shopping himself teams with various schemes. In, the long term a quarterbacks running ability is considered a complimentary skill and one that is story. Fade with age or because of injuries, scrambling ability and arms drank are secondary to whether you can hit the target. That analysis backed up by numbers essentially wreck stay shit out of this current narrative will Cohen Governor never draw. Back. Dinners. Any beds no sorry. Have a fucking job because he sucks. Sex At what he does also, there's a theory going around the going around that it was right about twenty, nine, hundred he met his I don't know if she's still has girlfriend whatever evidently these ideas about radical justice one I'd ever definitely his girlfriend is, is some sort of radical s j w as well, and he was too stupid to either a lever to the side or be not listen door and just agree to disagree on stuff but then again. Go ahead exactly what it is. Power Pussy with exactly exactly and you quite frankly I can't fault them for that because you know that's ninety percent of marriages happen. We'll just we'll just leave at this point. Is that right there? That's You were saying regarding his ability to suck. But it started then I mean he the guy the guy got lazy. He got loud. Through the race card to cover his shit then he couldn't back up his mouth with performance. You know do you your ears? Rocco's fat okay. Let's talk about just a second. Let's talk about Shannon Sharpe just for ten seconds or for a few seconds. Okay. Shannon Sharpe. Is An arrogant prick agree or disagree now When I hang on, hang on that said. Shannon Sharpe liked to run his mouth about a lot of stuff at a lot of different times also true. Yes. Yes. Shannon Sharpe never failed toback his mouth up with his physical actions on field. Also. True. Unless I'm Clinton mistake, it have you seen the. I know he's A. He's a beast. His and by that, I, mean his physique and his skill level we're just unprecedented but you know I do I think running your mouth there's unprofessional Mind that you buy then back it up on the field nut so much. I mean. Go ahead. If I if I remember correctly now, remember this because there is significant events happened in my life sixteen nineteen. broncos are in the midst of the run to Super Bowl thirty two. Tonight game. In Kansas City in Kansas. City. I can remember. Watching a few days later because of recovering from surgery on. Shannon. Sharpe was literally being drug halfway across the field for most of the game by his helmet because he was talking some serious Shit Oh. Yeah. I. Remember Correctly Dr Thomas. If. If I get an incorrect Thomas Yeah. So. So pissed off the guy, he knocking, Kane insane composure in his professionalism in the game. You got what? I think. Say He lit it up. He was like Yeah. That's ten to twelve for. The Gargantuan One, twenty, one, twenty, six, and what two touchdowns. Yeah he was a month. So. All of a sudden sanders our. Love the Guy I've actually met him. Helvin individual. Love Tall. But he can copious amounts of Shit Oh. Yeah. Oh yeah that that man can back his mouth up. Oh Yeah. We have an and. He. End Let's let's break that down from an NFL perspective. So I'm a personnel manager. Okay and I have Shannon Sharpe as a free agent. His name comes across the wire I go holy Fuck Ball sharps available, and I already know that a he's allowed mouth be he likes to talk shit and sees extremely opinionated man but D-. The Guy Backs should have on the field I picked up the phone. I pick up the phone and say Hello Mr Shannon. Trump's lawyer her agent. This is me at the I would like to pay your your plant, a lot of money obscene amount of money to come help us when football game sets. Ended up with the. Exactly for whatever he was with the Ravens what three years. Say but he wanted them for four super bowl with their to. The argument that Colin Kaepernick doesn't have a job because Hashtag grace is complete an utter bullshit. Bullshit and the the fact that Roger Goodell has bought into this Shit Hook Line and sinker is even worse. Okay. You would think that that to be the commissioner of of a National League or National Professional Sports League that race in what eight to ten billion dollars. A year in gross revenue. You have. You'd have to have an IQ above your shoe size. Goodell even that these people that that they're they're professing to support. Social Justice. Wise. He realized that the vast majority of them do not watch the Games couldn't tell you five players in the league and doesn't even know couldn't name five teams lot I mean. She probably I mean. Look at some of the fan base. Did Not tell you the difference three, four, three defense. Yeah don't try to get him to describe the Tampa to. Exactly or various offensive formation. You're the simultaneous simultaneous possession roll which you and I can quote by heart understand completely. Exactly. Our guys we've got another segment coming up right after this brief break. Stay tuned. Midnight Patriot nations spartan with a shameless plug for our new gear shop shop. Dot. MIDNIGHT PATRIOTS DOT COM. T shirts, hats, hoodies, mugs, phone cases, and just about everything else in between we got you covered whether you're looking to embrace your insomnia, show your patriotism or make a liberals headaches blowed. Really, Shop Dot Midnight Patriots, Dot Com, and now back to the show. You know that's that said. I made a prediction in in midnight moment the last night moment and I want to run around wanted to run that by. Not. Only understand that the business portion of the of the game, but also the game itself. So this is going to the business portion now. One. Of the things that you and I both know is that owners very rarely. SAY WHAT THEY THINK Or say or reveal their plans in advance. Okay. I've noticed that the owners have remained. Suspiciously quiet. About the social justice campaign that's currently going on I do disagree with that. I mean like I said, I think Jerry Jones is really the only one that's actually made any sort of statement and it wasn't a very long. I ever Jones ever quiet. What that's that's my point. And say instead of instead of. Me thinks he protests too much. Me think she says nothing for more sinister Okay so I wanted to run this by this is my theory. Okay. Now we've confirmed the the the Monday night compal atrocity from last night. US. Or Susani from two nights ago that. We've confirmed that the viewership was down approximately twenty nine percent. Across the board in that double header. So if we take the two games Monday and the overall ratings of of being down for Sunday you're talking an average of of a twenty percent downer. It's one fifth of the audience of the television audience told the NFL the PISS off. Okay. Considering the the significant financial investment ESPN has for for the right. To. Monday night football. Let's just let's just call that loss unsustainable. Okay. So I am going to ask you to engage your owner brain for just a minute. Okay. So We're GONNA fast forward to the week after the Super Bowl's okay where things are notably notably quite Rosalie quiet. The coaching carousel began and things like that since. Day. Except that, there's going to be a rumor. Going to be a rumor. That the NFL that the owners are considering locking out the players because they want to renegotiate the contracts. And this will come as a surprise to dumb asses in the AT ESPN released. They're going to feign surprise. Okay. And we're going to start hearing things like while the coaches are not gonNa make anymore are putting hiring decisions are the owners are going to. Put a hiring decisions on pause for just We're going to review a few things and Blah Blah Blah. While then we're going to get to Russia's started free agency. And we'RE GONNA. Find out and it's probably going to be one of the one of the What's The guy's name? Remember his name. One of the reporters Schefter Adam schefter because he always breaks up he's. Probably. GonNa be schefter becomes. We have confirmed reports, the owners who are going to lock out the players affected nine am tomorrow or whatever. Okay. Now what's going to end up happening is this. The overall I would say, the overall revenue is going to decline somewhere in the area of twenty percent across the before the Lee across the. Across the season. Okay. Now again does just a prediction it might be higher. I hope it's higher until they stop dish this personally but. This is what's going to happen. You're going to get a massive ratings ratings cut. Even in the Super Bowl. Which means revenue is going to be down roughly thirty percents. Okay. What they're gonNA say is this is an unprecedented drop in revenue and the the losses are unsustainable. They're going to have to renegotiate the contracts. The players are GONNA have to take less money and this time the the ownership is going to be able to show concrete. The because of the drop in television revenue in Jersey sales and everything else. That they're going to have to renegotiate the contract. They're going to vote on removing Goodell as the commission. You're actually they're gonNA, they're gonNA end up forcing him out but the way it's GonNa play out this players are to get locked out. There's going to be a review of the deal of the of the current Labor Labor Agreement. The new agreement is GONNA. Have a significantly lower. Revenue Pool total that that the players are going to get. And they're going to have conduct they're going to have enhanced conduct policy which include the jewel stand for the national anthem. You will not hiding locker room for it. And you're going to we're going to not endorse anyone as far as any sort of political failure, your ideology on the field, and if you do not only will your contract be terminated but you'll be you'll be on the breadline by your suspended for a year. Now maybe the suspended for year won't come to pass but. Engage your own our brain for just a second and then look at the strike years that came up and you tell me how how how. Or how far I'll fight on that. Will. Allow me to. Dive into this plan I mean. Here we go. I am an owner of a NFL team. Meaning I have had to. Put Out. Let's use an arbitrary figure five hundred million dollars cash right upfront. Chooses five hundred. Half a billion. Cool. I'm. Glad. Yeah. Five hundred million dollars up front in order to gain my team have somewhere to play. The voted on passed and approved by the NFL. As either an expansion team whatever then. To, Cherry pick the other teams around here so I can build my team. In hopes that a I get a return on investment. That said if I'm going to dump five, hundred, million dollars out. A team equipment place play contracts that are stretched for X. number of years. This mice guaranteed this much at a signing bonus this much. Not. including the money paid to the team from the NFL for reaching a wildcard round, a divisional round championship round, and ultimately the Super Bowl. There are incentives paid to the teams by the NFL for attaining postseason plum. Yeah So that said with everything that goes on here. Currently we're martyring. Convicted felons we are. Using the NFL. As a soapbox. As an owner. would. Say? Okay. I can understand. The Point I understand where you're coming from I understand yes. Shit doesn't like this doesn't need to happen. It does there's nothing I can physically do about it personally except point out to you that you're not them. You are a multimillionaire more working your way to that point because of your talent, your skill and your ability play the game price. You as a athlete. well-fed well trained. Best shape, your ever loving life you have a house bigger than anything you've ever grew up in, you've got cars for days all these other things but. You need to remember that you are entertainer You're not a politician. So, that said. When to go into your point? After the Super Bowl. Until they actually have one right. That two weeks later, when everything's died down in the in the winter sprayed is over and losers or duck griping and the coaches players have made their way to their respective all. Wherever. That may be they're probably their private castles. Yes don't don't live in a castle guarded by you know dogs bigger than. Most people's. Cars. Were we will probably see as you said. Well you know revenue was down. Because of viewership is down across the board anywhere between currently twenty twenty, two percent to encroaching upon thirty percent. For Games you know TV, rights merchandise sales are going to be down. People are actively boycotting across those media and they're actually making their voice known by not watching. All of a sudden if we were to take thirty two current teams. And we look at. All the owners in this how much money they have? Now if we were to take thirty percent of total investment apart. As a conglomerate figure. We're talking a loss of probably and I would strong. Guess. Somewhere in the neighborhood of anywhere between two and two point, five, billion dollars while even go you want all you can go one better I think since the economy has basically picked up I mean you gotta remember the day to ten billion was during the Obama Konami which was one of the worst economies history. Okay. So that said you gotta figure that now it's probably going to be between ten and twelve. So if you have a twenty percent revenue law, if you have a almost thirty percent, you're talking about three billion dollars. That's a three billion dollar loss. So even if even if you spread that across thirty two teams, you're talking about what? Three hundred, million dollar loss per franchised. and. So and a lot of the smaller market. Good. So again, as an owner with Joan, arbitrary figure of five, hundred, million dollars starting I just lost seventy five percent of your or yeah of my revenue that I put into have an NFL team. Well, exactly. Well Number One and number two what anybody thinks that now? Okay. We all understand the cats at the revenue sharing For Those of us that are initiated, understand understand the the the reason for revenue. Okay. That's that's a given. Okay. Even still a thirty percent cut to that revenue devastates small-market teams devastate. Okay that's. Cleveland Cleveland Cambe that's Detroit. Well, I think Detroit is a bit bigger, but I catch meaning. into. Jacksonville. Flow? Buffalo Alright. That unders. Anyway. They're too big but no I hear you here's here's here's the thing the smaller market teams are going to move may if this continues maybe on the verge of bankruptcy and and if you really don't think that the NFL owners will lock out the players to avoid that. I just think everybody's so naive that they shouldn't even be a football fan you can. Football I in my opinion, these played the players and Adele are cutting the owners throats and I don't think the owners appreciate it number one and number two I. Think the owners are more in touch with their demographic their fan base style people want to believe i. don't say that they like their fan base because obviously as the executive class billionaires general ended the tend to hate working people or at least have a disdain for them. Okay. But the point being is that it's unsustainable model for them to go forward to continue this crap. Of K, it's it's absolutely ludicrous. So I think about beat that horse to death did you have anything to add on just on that? Final thought regarding that as an owner is a businessman I yeah exactly. Exactly. His businesses to? Yes he owns the team but as a business owner, you're always looking to. CRUISER BOTTLE BLONDE Increase but also you know they've got, they've got a commitment. You know what I mean I mean the bottom line is there are associated with raising revenue to pay Patrick mahomes half a billion dollars over the next. Seven years. Of. The point the point is this is that there are costs associated developing that revenue and win the players behavior or when when the when the the players union in the League encourages behavior that is deleterious to to that mission. Then what are the owners supposed to do? Gordon exactly. They locked the doors take resigning before we open this and then players you're GONNA WE'RE GONNA have to do a big restructure here. Sorry. You know this is this is not you? Not You know you're not this side of the world you guys are on the upper echelon. Of money you have succeeded in. On yourself up by your bootstrap for lack of terminology, you have made it playing a game that you love passion for three enforce your point duty not only are they a privileged class? Okay. Let I verified this I verify this last night. I made a statement that that. The NFL, the people on the NFL minimum as in rookies that that you know what we're undrafted free agents, right that are somehow made the squad, which is more powerful MAZAFA. A No experience. Rookie. Signed as a free agent this year in the League makes a minimum of six hundred, thousand dollars. Six hundred, ten, thousand dollars I then went to the Department of Labor's website guess what the average household income for Americans is as twenty twenty. Sixty, one, thousand, three, hundred. Yes. They working person would take ten eleven years to make. They're making six months show and this is not this is not an insult. I'm only going to use the label for for effect. Hacks in the NFL make ten times. The average working family does and they dare fucking lecture us about what our values should be faulk them. Big F what. Exactly. With a with capitalize all letters with with several exclamation points at the end. So that said I. Underlined and and I tell us is never. That's that said, I I wanNA give credit where it's due also understand that you know. What did I just go off on the NFL to you know to to to the end up with surprise we'll tell you why because You know even in the worst of situations, even even in the darkest night, there are rays of sunshine out gather are rays of light and I want to heap praise on two particular players, and these are the only two players. That I'm aware of have done this if any of you out there. Needed to midnight Patriot nation are aware of more please let us know. So we can give them their just desserts in their props. I want to give particular a credit to a hundred in the way of of the of the Pittsburgh steelers. Mr Villanueva is a former army ranger That said he made a big splash stirred shit storm by doing the right thing. I'm not going to get into the to the criminal that that the that the steelers. We're trying to honor Norma GonNa try to justify it didn't happen there but. Mr Vienna wave. Did something very classy He caped over the criminals name and he chose to honor sergeant first class all when cash. Now I believe I'm saying that correctly cut me some slack by brute if I if I. A brutalized his name that is not the intention. To say how I believe it's spelled. But sergeant first, class all, when. Cash. who was killed in Afghanistan? And I I, WANNA. I WANNA take. The chance to really You know he preys on on Mr Villain away for for going against the grain and for honoring in a true fallen hero on instead of instead of the criminal. So. Well on on that. The next one and probably the biggest honors of the latest give to the Jaguars tight tyler effort. I think I'm saying his name correctly also I don't think it's effort at the. But again, please forgive me if I've Jaguars fans if wrecked his name to. That being said that were I for also You know went against the grain he chose to honor the life of David Dorn David Dorn for those of you that that don't know was retired police officer. I believe it was Saint Louis. He. police chief Sir about that. He was retired police chief and he. was acting on behalf of a friend to go and check is Friends Pawn Shop. And he was gunned down he was killed Doing doing that by a felon in possession of firearm each shot this this legitimate euro From behind in the back of the head, which was incredibly cowardly act. ADORNS widow. was featured at the Republican National Convention. So those be the she told the heart wrenching story and As much as I am I gotTa tell you broaden orphee side, but he loved me misty. I was just her story about David's life was very touching and the impact on her family were simply crush. So I wanNA other drove I drove home the point. Your choice exact life exactly as what makes you? Exactly you know people people come from from bad situations and rise to great heights in as far as I know. This is the only country in the world that that can happen. Where you can make what you want of your own life. Okay. The biggest prison that we have in this country, the prison in our own minds. So A. Big Praise to do Mr Bean away and Mr for will done. I still have the continue my. My boycott because of my standards but you gentlemen have shown that there is a a ray of light in darkness. So Phoenix where you have anything to add or have we beat this to death. By by Pres for. There are people in the NFL that are serving of. Respect for me for one. Not because of their wallet or their house or their cars. But they chose stand for the national anthem. As. SOMEONE WHO Leaves in their country. Leaves in the American dream all though little hard to attain sometimes. The anthem regardless of anybody's political stance. The gentleman across the nation. And the NFL NBA MLB. I stand with you guys choose to stand in honour your country. That is. The way it is your will said. Anybody else wants that is your choice. I. Respect your choice I don't like it but I do respect it. But I stand with the gentleman who chooses stanton honor the country, the greatest country on this earth. Gives them every opportunity to excel in anything that they choose to? Like professional football or professional athletics exactly. I think it. I think it's worth mentioning here. I know we said we beat the source of, but I wanNA bring up another topic to. Weird Midnight Patriots all of us. May disagree with with what someone says, but we would fight to our desk to protect their their right to say those words. That being said I think one of the other things that the public is piss pot tired of is the privileged wealthy assholes. Being able to have different sets of rules at their workplace than we do. In the Corporate World in William and most smaller companies you do not have. You do not have freedom of speech. Okay. You will be shown the door if you bring up politics religion, etc etc. Okay. With social justice causes or otherwise. They can show you the door. Okay and I don't think I don't think it's Ok these. Use Their their platform on the field or in any way while a uniform to promote their agenda. Okay. Now, I think you and I would agree with this if the NFL Players Association wants to get together and host either a live event or televised event. when they are not playing and they're out of uniform. And they want to tackle these issues donate money to causes give away money whatever I think that would be a perfectly acceptable display. That's fine. Okay. But I think the reason they don't is they know that the cause is a loser. Okay. They're not willing to risk their own money you know to they're not willing to put their money with their mouths are in order to have their protests but but you know somehow everybody else should just shut up and and honor was they're trying to do and I think that that is excellent. You know policy at its finest end. America's PISS POT tired of turning channel I. think that's a big factor as well. As your thoughts unfortunately mean here to. Drive your point. I could see. Getting together having one big party fundraiser l. have running toe board. Hey, you know we're raising all this money great or even several. Yeah Go. But the reason but the reason they're doing it on television is because they can reach a mass audience all at once. But. They haven't had. They had the NFL network. If. The shows a winner, they could sell it to their to their allies in the media. WHO's to say ESPN would cover it. You know for God's sake ESPN has the SP one of the worst ward Joe's ever. Okay and if they want to go up to that into a social justice show fine. Go right ahead or create when like it again. Fine. Or if you know even Amazon or Netflix wants to pick up something about you know the S J W 'cause in the NFL an interview players follow players around their charitable work while they advance these causes grace go ahead I mean I think what they'll find his a there's no interest in be nobody cares they approach it that way that we far less backlash in their their incomes would be far safer than if they continue down this path. the ratings would actually come back to a more normal. That's where I'm talking about I. Mean there are only cutting their own throats by doing it the way they're doing it that that's all I have to say. So that's a wrap for this midnight. Mama we we went really long hopefully provided you get some insights, maybe some food for thought. 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"john elway" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW
"And service today is Brandon Phillips birthday the former Reds second baseman is thirty nine it is also John Elway's birthday he is sixty and that's the inspiration for today's first topic have the Reds found there John Elway yeah not Joe burrow a franchise quarterback who gives them a legit chance to win the Superbowl our phone numbers are five one three seven four nine seven thousand locally toll free one eight hundred the big one our town seven hundred and eighty N. Tait batting leadoff Tim in feni town hello Tim welcome to the show Hey how you doing I'm doing well how are you man I just one thing real quickly I just always appreciate you you are such a balanced approach to sports and you just really brought some bright spots during the code thing doing the nasty stuff for kids I can't just let up when you did that appreciate Jeff Tim thank you I appreciate that yeah so here's the thing I mean I am hopeful is anybody else in that a that burrows gonna do a great job on the high school football coach judge you know wants to sell me even from way back when he was in high school I mean so he's a fantastic you know potential quarterback but the thing that bothers me a little bit is were so quick to want to dump him that the next best thing and you may have the temperament to be able to deal with it but you know the Wessel happens you know we don't know what you're you don't really know what you're gonna get and the thing for me is the FCC has traditionally not home they just don't have that great of longevity as quarterbacks in the NFL I mean so these guys that are either making different he's a long time or big ten guys and guys don't wear beautifully that type of crime that you're gonna get in the AFC north at heart those two you know football and you know the weather individual often so now he's from happened so I think that part of the notes somewhat second feature form but you know I'm I'm hopeful I think you're going to be you know I think it all panned out but you know I'm old enough to remember David Klingler not not that I'm like you know saying that they are lying but David Kramer came out with a kind of hope and he got his bell rung and so to me there's a small window that the Bengals had because the contract to really make it work and so by the time that two three four years rolls around I'm just hoping that those gaps still there we we to place themselves that's all my thoughts are so big but pretty typical ten good stuff I appreciate it you know your point about the SEC is an interesting one it doesn't seem like in recent years the best NFL quarterbacks have come out of the SEC and that's the opposite from what you would expect because of the competition level you would just think that they're basically playing NFL like defenses on a regular basis wouldn't those guys be the most successful you mentioned David Klingler going back to him I think that was one of the reasons why he failed he was putting up crazy numbers running the running shoot but he was facing a rice and North Texas he wasn't facing Alabama and teams of that caliber on a regular basis and that's what Joe burrow did over the last two years he made twelve starts in two years at LSU against teams are ranked in the top ten at the time in those games against teams ranked in the top ten Joe burrow completed sixty six percent of his passes with thirty two touchdown passes four interceptions and led LSU to eleven and one records show you can't do much better than that against top notch competition it's one of the reasons why I think he's going to have a productive first season in Cincinnati and hopefully a great career what do you think about that Joe Berle and his chances of being the bangles John Elway you can give me a call we have phone lines open add to five one three seven four nine seven thousand locally toll free one eight hundred the big one or pound seven hundred I'm AT and T. John Elway as I mentioned earlier struggled as a rookie he completed forty seven percent of his passes in his first NFL season and he was not alone among great quarterbacks rookie quarterbacks used to struggle Troy Aikman had a passer rating of fifty five point seven is a rookie Peyton manning threw a rookie record twenty eight interceptions but in recent years rookie quarterbacks have often performed extremely well Baker Mayfield was great as a rookie two years ago with twenty seven touchdown passes fortunately took a step backward last year Tyler Murray was excellent statistically last year with Arizona and I think they did Joe burrows very capable of doing something like what those guys are able to do this year beginning eleven weeks from today let's check in with Dave in reading hi Dave you're on seven hundred WLW have a go on I do with a little bit about John Elway I think we do world anywhere close to well it was a one time I actually thought he was the best call back number one public school five thought that because my bank accounts and we were close friends of mine of course he knocked the ground out of through balls and that won bragging rights police handled the Browns all right example the bangles came so I don't build grabbing L. Williams actually you know what top three or four ever the place of the greatest junk mail consumer solution learner and you know the way they handle scramble and make plays on the line I got a story or tell you about the about that in the mid eighties I can't remember exactly what year it was I had a friend who they will be at sea trials state football game in a low income other than on that stadium and went up there and they were playing the game Ohio state was one oral believes his coach and then the house to house to have big lead and they blew it and lost the game and all the fans to scream bloody murder at moody Hayes is here and all those who could not have been a big hospitality scenery but isn't a call asking myself and a little and no time quarterback John Elway thanks tampered and usually right then I mean I'll come come back caring and everything it's really taste of that I I knew of him I knew of in the Stanford but like you I was that's quite a memory yeah yeah so I guess I'll tell you the best of all time to maybe what he has done recently and everything but he's he just chose to remind me a little bit more your style will bid Joe burrow doesn't have the raw arm strength of John Elway Elway had one of the strongest arms after he could throw football through a brick wall in Joe burrow isn't like that but he does have that scrambling ability the John Elway had and I think he's got the leadership qualities with John Elway had John Elway as I mentioned earlier the Broncos were four and six in the games that he started as a rookie that next year they won double digit wins year after that double digit wins here after that Superbowl first of five Super Bowl appearances so his joy going juggling to do that probably not but I think he gives the Bengals a legitimate chance of getting there for the first time since the eighty eight season yeah that's right thanks Dan hi Dave I appreciate the call we do have phone lines open five one three seven four nine seven thousand locally you can call toll free at one eight hundred the big one or pound seven hundred on AT and T..
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell says "we were wrong" amid protests
"Several NFL players speak out on the killing of George Floyd and others by police and NFL management responded with an about face it started with this video put out by reigning MVP Patrick my homes that includes several players speaking out against racial injustice to listen to it then goes on this is what we the players would like to hear these state we and the systematic oppression of black people NFL commissioner Roger Goodell responded saying it was wrong to not listen and is encouraging them to peacefully protest and even joining in protests around the country emblematic of the centuries of silence inequality and oppression of black players and now Denver Broncos general manager John Elway is tweeting he realizes he was wrong as well in his views of race relations and is now joining those
NFL players spoke, and Roger Goodell responded
"NFL commissioner Roger Goodell responding to a video by famous black players calling for the lead to take a stronger stand against racism we the National Football League admit we were wrong for not listening to NFL players earlier and encourage all to speak out and peacefully protest read the National Football League believe black lives matter on Twitter Denver Broncos general manager John Elway said he's no longer standing on the sidelines and is joining with the players coaches and our organization in speaking up against racism police brutality and any injustice against the black community the Broncos head coach drew widespread condemnation this week for suggesting he didn't see racism or discrimination in the
"john elway" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"You know they're not that divides a Booker is a Broncos player that was being followed heavily throughout his time there but we follow everybody on the Broncos roster to a certain extent you wonder if there wasn't an attitude problem lack of motivation for one reason or another but didn't work out and I think that the lesson here I said this coming out of the draft don't fall for the John Elway got a steal talk don't do it the odds were never a divine tape Booker's favor that he would be an impact running back in the NFL some guys can hit in the fourth fifth sixth and seventh round it's happened there's certainly plenty of guys from those rounds who have been on NFL rosters but you're not getting seven all pros this is not happening and to talk about well this guy was a steel and this guy was a steel turns out not really most guys pretty much are what they are in the fourth fifth sixth and seventh round advance their depth guy with a few far between examples of guys from those around who have really hit and this is this is not a uniquely Broncos problem by the way there are plenty of fan bases across this country and plenty of media types across this country that look at what the team they cover the team they root for dis and makes comments similar to the one say you hear Denver media make about every John Elway pick every John Elway pick is a steal every John Elway pick is genius it happens in other cities too but it's certainly one of the big problems I think with the way that the Broncos are covered is that every dude is gonna hit and the way that I look at this movie Ford unless Albert or the movie kid out of Fresno state unless these guys in pre season or in the regular season our practice unless they show something the only time I'm really going to bring them up is whose job is getting taken who on the current roster is going to get cut so they can make room for these guys we talk about the Broncos in twenty twenty M. previewing the season is Judy it's Hamler.
"john elway" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"But John Elway didn't even look at that position the entire weekend he said after the draft is over they weren't even involved in the discussion for Trent Williams I don't know if Kerr bowls has some incriminating pictures of him or what the deal is but what do they see in care bowls that we all don't and even if they white gear bowls you have the ability to get a potential a lead player and we talk about this John Elway is always striving to make every position elite he can nobody does but you try how is gear bowls even in their warped sense that he improved over the course of the season and he's not as bad as people think how can you still say he's a leak how can you say that he's our true franchise left tackle are the Broncos thinking of signing up up past the basses rookie deal because that's coming up they had a chance to upgrade that position as a vital position for a young quarterback and they refused they didn't fail to do so they didn't forget to do so they refuse and that part of it is so shocking to me they'd even grab somebody late that might have the ability to potentially play left tackle at some point they drafted two linemen both clearly interior guys they don't even ask John Lynch excuse me ask guide Dan Snyder about Trent Williams how can they think that's good enough I just think that John Elway got tunnel vision some of the little glimpses into the talent through our cast and we all saw we all saw the glimpses but he he went overboard he filled through locks room with all these toys any forgot what the most basic things that you can give a young potential franchise quarterback I am not down on the entire Broncos draft I think that John Elway other than that big mess by not addressing the left tackle position I think he had a very good draft I think you look at three guys in this draft that he got that have a decent shot of being impact players on day one you grab a guy or two that might be able to fill a role position I think overall it was a solid draft they got a lot of little things right but they got the big thing the most important thing wrong John Elway went from hoping drew lock is the guy to say he's the guy without really any evidence we got five games five games is all we have we all think there's something there we all believe that there's something worth nurturing but how can you say it's enough to definitively say that let's go out and use our first two picks on wide receivers I mean it towards the middle of the draft you start to get ridiculous they were just drafting drew lock's friends from college I think John Elway made a lot of good decisions this weekend and I think overall it is a good draft I think a lot of people are over hyping it I don't know how every pick could be a steal for the Denver Broncos but that's the way the the Denver media is reacting that every pick John Elway just totally fleece the rest of the NFL we know that's not sure you guys know that's not true but there were some shrewd decisions that were made over the course of three days but there is one weak.
No major hangups in NFL's mock draft heading to real thing
"Denver Broncos GM John Elway said he expects problems when picks are announced this week to be minimal L. Y. and representatives from every other team went through a dry run of the pandemic driven format on Monday with a two round practice session Elway told reporters there was an issue with too many people on the call not using a mute button but eventually things worked out under the virtual format teams will have their personnel people scouts and coaches all online from different locations I'm Bruce Morton
John Elway: 'Drew is the guy we are looking to'
"The Broncos heading into the upcoming season without a question a quarterback it's the first time that's been settled in some time GM John Elway spoke from the NFL combine about the quarterback drew lock working through the way that you know drew finished in a finished form one and I think that where we sit right now there's no question drew is the you know the guy that that we're looking to win so obviously want to be able to improve as a football team Broncos have nine picks and that upcoming NFL draft pictures to see what direction they go with the
Safety Atwater voted into Hall of Fame
"As ray fame safety Steve out water can now ADD hall of Famer to his resume here's his former teammate current Broncos president of football operations in GM John Elway on out water joining him in the hall it's awesome you know what another great rock will get in the hall of fame's always grace version the defensive side to save at a tremendous career he's a better person and so really thrilled form that kick that door now so could have no
Broncos Finalizing Deal to Make Pat Shurmur New Offensive Coordinator
"Well we just talk to my class are brokers insider who told us that the deal is done with that tactic Schirmer to be the new see for the Denver Broncos official press release from the team hopefully coming sometime before the end of the week big al with Schirmer being the new offense of coordinator what do you see as the pros and cons for this this young this young offense with the very young rookie quarterback is gonna be going into your to what I'm looking for are the things that that you can give a team and that's easy to roles and I always talk about this because I believe that that's the key to winning football games in this league how can you create an easy throw a one on one getting the guy wide open like we saw Devine to Adam's last night plan for the Packers you know the Packers go with the heavy formation they run a play that look like it's going to be a post but it then it turns into a corner is a seven right and then you look up and you say all my goodness the guy has a football it's one on one coverage he makes one guy miss and any out runs the coverage that's it easy to roll okay it's not fit the ball in the window it's not a drop back play act soon getting a guide you know own a seventeen yard dig route it's none of those things it's making the girls that the good players make to wide open guys but you have to design those plays for those guys to be wide open and the quarterback shouldn't be surprised when a wide open and when they're not wide open take the ball and run it that's what the good teams in the NFL do that's how you win football games in this business by getting your quarterback easy throws that you can feel good about and we didn't do that especially not against the Kansas City Chiefs are we rich gang real and I hate to see guys getting fired trust me it's it's not it's it's you know nobody wants to see that I wish there was a way that he could have stayed on and work with the quarterbacks something of that nature but maybe it's maybe it's too muddy if he's in Rome but you know it just we just have to have a change in and once again the greatest throws in the NFL aren't necessarily the ones that are forty M. fifty yards down the field like we saw this weekend but we also saw we also saw Patrick my homes we were out to the running back I think it was Williams out of the backfield on what looked like to be a six star pass it ended up being a seventeen yard touchdown the design of the play against the covers that was played was perfect and the guy had a free run to the end zone I mean those are the plays that you expect out of a great offensive coordinator and that's certainly what I'm looking forward Pat Shurmur who spent a lot of time with Andy Reid and Philadelphia I take it I think he was there for at least ten seasons with Andy Reid going from offense of line coach tidy and coats two quarterbacks coach so he understands the offense it's complete and of course in that Minnesota offense that's what we have to go last because that's where he was calling plays exclusively you look at that team and what they were able to do and the way that they brought on Adam Thielen out of no where to become a star well you know that he understands what kind of receipt what the receivers need to look like and not how they need to run there are so many different ways that we can look at this as be an improvement to be an improvement to what we had last year in part of it believe it or not Joe Joe is evaluating players for the upcoming draft that's a big big part of it because trust me there is a common formula to run in this offense and really make it work Stefon Diggs is the guy that blows the doors off of the defense is for the Minnesota Vikings before we and you look at back at Pat Shurmur when he was with Andy Reid it was the son Jackson now what is a in to read as he has he'll explosive wires see what to add to re kill who blows the doors off so I'm almost guaranteed you I'm almost guaranteeing you were going to find a guy that can blow the doors off of the defense in round one or two of this year's NFL draft that's how you make that all things work do you have a guy that can a workhorse guy who can catch the balls and make it happen that's called sudden but we need one of those guys that is scary says that blows the doors off the defense the evaluation process of what that guy looks like I trust Pat Shurmur more than I do John Elway to
"john elway" Discussed on KOA 850 AM
"High powered offenses in we know John Elway had his ups and downs at times when he didn't have a running game button but I tell you what when you compliment those guys with decent running backs in and decided to come in early my goodness man the sky's the limit as a limitation I is the limit and you're seeing these young guys we got a bad rap though we got a bad rap yeah a little bit but but part of that is also the bad rap in my opinion had more to do with trying to marry the styles as you mentioned merry the styles of manning and that office had more to do with the talent that you were trying to do that with the next year with Trevor Simeon at quarterback teams are daring him to throw the ball bearing to throw the ball ninety seven I did not look I get it no it's not ready I know it's not pretty but for where they are now for where they went since then nine seven as it is for a dream I mean look at the teams that are part of the Playhouse man I mean we we have teams that are dominating in the run moving forward okay that is the bottom line when you are talking about playoff football can you can you enforce your concepts in your wheel on your opponent can you force them to be left handed in defending the run because as soon as they feel like they have to commit everything that's when you get the boats that's when you hit the long passes over the top that passed that Adam dealing caught last weekend man against the saints that was first in Tampa that was the first in ten Hey guess what the saints committed everybody and their momma to run Hey Kirk cousins let it fly over everybody else is here what is going on Hey listen man I'm only here to what is left jab so many times that you just go to protect against a left jab and then out of nowhere comes is right Krause and that's exactly what happens in that all fans that Mike Shanahan put in and that's exactly what you see and that all fans that Kyle Shanahan is running out there all fields that Gary Kubiak have a huge he's not the office coordinator of record notes defense he is he is not the office of court date of record but he is the office of court now all you see is his fingerprints all over it I mean the guy who gets paid the most is the most important person in every organization for the motor out for the most part okay that's the way it works in business Gary Kubiak makes more money than the offense of coordinator listen one of the things that I I find kind of interesting about this article and that I I think about when it relates back the Broncos right now with risking Rollo they talked about how they had to design a whole new system from Archie three like they they were like they would be innovative they had to be and they even said this dude can't read defenses we're gonna have to they they looked at that zone read that was the way they got RG three to that rookie of the year and I think about the NFL it it did change the NFL and I think about what rich gang role taken away from Kyle Shanahan was part of that that staff would risk getting real will be able to to mold things and use this system to develop true lack there is a quote here from scan gorilla that I thought was fantastic he said it's the best most efficient offense of system in pro football it makes quarterbacks not the other way around right think about that right because I'm always I'm a stickler of how in the world do we get our quarterbacks easy throws this offense always allows them to get easy throws when it's run correctly I called right because let's just let's just let's just consider that there are there there are a host of plays that you can call no one when the column is the trick we come back and noticed a big win on the road over the mavs will discuss the next right you're a big Alan Jo Jo okay.
Top jockey Eurico Rosa da Silva to retire
"Very few successful athletes get to win their illustrious career here's by going out on top a handful come to mind John elway one super bowls in his last two years with the Denver Broncos Peyton manning went out with a super bowl win I'm for that same team Ray Bork left the NHL team with which he'll forever be associated the Boston Bruins to win a Stanley Cup with Colorado and then jet off into the sunset it could be the same kind of fairy tale ending to the career of one of the most successful jockeys North America Eurico Rosa Dasilva who was written primarily at Woodbine race course in Toronto for the past fifteen years the forty four year old rider will call it a career sometime in mid December he's one six sovereign awards for best writer the sovereigns are the eclipse awards of Canada he's been the leading writer at Woodbine five times and won back to back queen's plates the Kentucky Derby of Canada in September he took down for what will be the only time one of the tracks signature races and by so doing wing now has a chance to cap his career with the Breeders Cup win they come to the home stretch the Rica Woodbine Mile Lou collina's Kliot down the outside of mass up the rails all across the track and L. Tournament coming through God's stormies in front to Second L. Tormenta Luke Collina's they're raging bull starting to build a run late in the latest what stormy that Philip Dodd Manta up the inside strides astrid L. dollars Meta on the inside and L. A. has one Rico with by L. Tormenta was forty four to one that day and now he's being pointed to the Breeders Cup Mile he'll no doubt be a long shot Swell facing the likes of got stormy Higher Power Uni and possibly circus maximus but hey a win for L. Tormenta over that group would be a real story book ending the career of our next guest Jockey Eurico Rosa Silva who joins us for a few minutes here on in the gate you've been around logging enough to know that forty four to one shots don't come in every day especially in grade one races so what was going through your head as you powered down the lane to win the Woodbine Mile Tormenta when when I was on the race what's compete under moment I was not thinking winning or or lose us me and him we both doing the weekend through two hundred race right and was completed on their moment or so folks all we want it could wire I you had not much experience with that horse before the Woodbine Mile I think but he had been a turf sprinter last year at age three free so what do you think made trainer Gail Cox decide to stretch this gelding out a little yes I think falling these horse he used to go to the elite before and he was a sprinter and you know they start taking him back and he learned how to relax and then they stretch him out and I think that was the key for him you know to learn how to relax and today he is I can say that they did very good job because he's he's not a horse to ride you know he relaxed that easy for you as we talked about an are open you're retiring basically at the top of your game made now the right time the right time for me is that I'm young to start a new business and my kids I really really want to focus on my family you've said that you grew up without family and you don't want that to happen to your three young children including a nine month old daughter congratulations what do you mean that you grew up without family when Noah's keeping my mom was always working I completed grew up Foodie much without my father and that's almost could create a black hole inside yourself you know as much I want to win before the races and I used to have a Lotta anger and I know in fewest I work on myself and that came from being a kid that most of the time King or in the street you know trying to make a leave and when I started understanding more that and I see how important for the keeps to have their baroness supporting them when they're growing up you know and because they didn't have that and also I want to enjoy seen my son my daughter having that with me you know he's not been better for myself I can say that when I'm not tired and I can take my keep to the park and play with them is very subtly fight for me because I raised for the time here and take a lot of promo body and he's very high from to do that well two things first of all I hate to break this to you but eventually those kids are going to become teenagers I have one and it's not really going very well so yes enjoy it all now while you can the other thing is you said you're racing here and you know as a top okay you'd have less trouble than less successful jockeys would booking mounts if you follow the money during colder months let's say to Florida to Kentucky but you've not real he done that it seems I believe once turned down a Breeders Cup ride to raise woodbine instead that day so what is your thought process for how you have set your skin Joel in the wintertime people think oh he's home he's that but you know I really work in myself I have entertained that work inside myself to come through to the recall you showing up on the track you know and he's the kind of really Really set the myself down and work on the brain I I really I never stopped working on the tire year I'll take two weeks like I am free as I'm not going to do anything and just deal with the family other time I use the time that I have time to work with myself inside myself oh jockey Eurico Rosa Dasilva joining us here on in the
"john elway" Discussed on KOA 850 AM
"What's trending tonight on earth here. what's trending tonight is the systematic melt down that's happening right gear bowls and the reaction that is is basically swallowed this city on what's gonna happen with Kerr bowls and it's it's kind of morphed a little bit so what a lot of people probably heard Emmanuel Sanders take on this and if you haven't because you know who knows. his mother today yeah the number plate for you right now this will mail centers had to say about your balls then the they were all the band of brothers and obviously you know in nam keep trying to talk to bulls and see if you know we can you know get in right and in understanding what he's doing our own because obviously to say that he'll be are it is not okay is the eighty obviously armies understand you know that he is doing some wrong because they keep you know the one of flags on me he's older so you know hopefully you know on the on the talk to women you know hopefully we keep breaking down a film and on to see him make that jumping get that data off his back because you know it's been is may have been for like two or three years it's kind of a key moment in there. basically said what he's doing wrong was here if if we can get it right and understanding what he's doing wrong because obviously to say that he'll be the he'll be all right is not okay so the idea of just how she is it's going to be fine he'll figure it out he's a professional football player main center says now kind of past that now we'll pass the moment of saying that he's got he's gonna be all right it's going to be okay. we say no it's not okay it is not going to be okay we we have to he has to do more we have to do more whether it's just having is back in that that's what was asked about about the support for your balls and he was giving that I don't think Emmanuel doesn't have Garrett's back on it I don't I don't think that I think that the take away there is the manual is making sure that that accountability applies unilaterally to everybody it's not well it'll be okay no it's not will be okay there is a sick there's an identifiable problem we are going to work out you know I that applies to anyone and everyone I don't think they you know I I don't think the it's an attack on Gerd pulls in there were some stations in town trying to twist that they're they're you know how everybody in town tries does not attack is not an attack on Kerr bowls those guys you know like accountability is a good way to describe the lead me back up a little. a lot of you don't know and don't understand how that locker room feels about Garibaldi. you know you guys see holding flat holding flags on game day you want to launch into attacking that guy but you know and I and I'm not sitting here saying that I'm I'm split a play to wood wings at Hooters with you know with these guys but I'm around them your around around several days a week right and I can tell you that there's a different attitude you know they view Garrett as their little brother you know he's part of the family and even when Derrick messes up you still part of family well this new coaching staff has a different style of accountability. and I think that's what's being embraced you when they talk about this stuff because. if they're not they're not saying this is Garrett's fault but they're saying there's an identifiable problem the Garrett has and the going to fix it. John Elway was on Logan Louis today. and I thought his comment was very telling about the way they're feeling about Kerr Balzers we had to say. well it got a stock in a minute there's no more you know there's no more excuses for it and you know he's had twenty six whole dollars last two years and two games and so it's got to stop in the bottom line is if he thinks he's getting singled out yes and so he's getting you've got to understand that he's got understand what he's doing and that was my question yesterday does he know what holding yes you know does he know what he can and can't do and so you know he thinks he's been targeted you gotta realize he isn't so yeah I think that you know and we'll keep working forty still a talented guy you know he's in a situation that you know we we can that you can't afford that even though three of the four only because he got were on the running plays which are just as important so hopefully that with an explanation and understanding a better understand understanding by him of what exactly what it is and with that they are looking for on that you know he's he's got a you can't we cannot do that because it's it's B. lesson so as well as you know we had two other ones he was the only one I think you know run at a couple their new one so you know we can't do it the the operative one can't do it we have built a correct those mistakes yeah John Elway was on Logan Lewis you can find a full interview ad Caley Colorado dot com with those very telling first says it's got to stop he even went as far to say does he know does he know what holding is and that's a weird thing to say to god that's it is third year did you know do you know the technique that you're doing wrong it's leading to holding he also by the way the first look at in there basically kind of echoing without get gear bowls he said yeah he he feels like he's being singled out maybe he is but then he kind of came back the other side of it and said that basically we know gear bowls saying he has this reputation is like some about that basically it no it's not about this reputation that you think you have and that's why the rush for singling you out it has nothing to do with that it has everything to do with technique and the fact that you're playing with bad technique and the and that's. that's a big deal at the minute John John is and it seems like this is because because Vic Fangio out a very similar statement yesterday about your balls right so it seems like they're all kind of out in front of this saying we support him we have his back. but we're kind of done couching as is going to be okay. so we used issue the better from the gecko you know the problem is this you know nobody's going to accuse care bowls of. to get an immense anytime soon but you know he's a he's a guy that that might be a little less work needle explanation need someone who can break things down to a level that he understands some people need that that's that's what makes a great coach. what is a coach coach the teacher you know and sometimes you need somebody to teach you elements of that in the college game it's not like the program in the college game that though yeah out there they say go out athlete that guy there's not a lot of great fundamentals teachers out there in the college game or if they are it's it's it's gone by the wayside in favor out athlete in people to put up points fundamentals but lost it trickles down. and Gary really hasn't had that here's a play football is whole life featured football later in life it'll Ralph upbringing. he had a tough childhood they turned a football let the aggression out and you wanna coaches Tellem it'll hit that guy put hands on. you know I know that she. so we need somebody who can teach him the intricacies of the nuances of of of just not being big and physical but being a a technician in the aircraft's miniature game and that that's something that that's why Mike Munch check was brought in your whole fame coach Mike. I'm not later all on one check but that that's what he was brought here for an understanding they've only had a few months together that's what I try to I try to make the joke yesterday but it applies. yeah I did learn calculus a couple months meanwhile. you know so I mean let's give Gera bowls the time to get it with a new coach I understand people are frustrated I understand that right around check was taken after and Ryan looks like he's. panned out pretty well I understand the frustration of a first round pick not panning out. you might want to check the time let's give care bowls of time to get this and if he doesn't have it by the end of this year because you're not gonna get up to upgrade this year Trevor trillium such a pipe dream call. so if you if you if you don't have it by the end of the year did it start thank you kindly for trying to move on but in the interim he's the guy donor options behind there aren't any this is it so you guys can sit out here you can you know you can land based Gera bowls on the air. it's free for you to send over a fire off those tweets but at the end of the day if you don't get better the boxes are going to be better so what you really room for three oh three seven one three eighty five eighty five phone number five six six nine zero is the textiles to the table on the really big show we have for you tonight we have a ring of fame are coming up here just a little bit higher brokers country tonight K. away. the.
What just happened? Making sense of Andrew Luck's shocking decision
"You know what how is indeed going to remember Andrew luck's legacy in in his career what what is his era and his legacy going to mean to those colts fans one we now look back in hindsight well so great girl he had said he told us Jason that he actually believes that when we look at Andrew luck we're going to think about the things that he did not do he's going to be remembered for the things that he did not do versus the things that he did and that might sound harsh it might sound unfair at the moment but when you think about that it kind of makes all the sense in the world doesn't well I I do think it's Marcia and I do think it's unfair that if we step back for a second engine log your armored when he was come out of Stanford I had scouts in player personnel people telling me he was the group he was the best quarterback quarterback prospect since John Elway I mean I had several people independently say that to me at any comes in succeeding Peyton manning arguably the greatest quarterback in NFL history mean we can go over Brady debate would go around around but if you take manning is right there and what does he do he picks up and gets his team into the playoffs he has great seasons pro bowls he gets hurt his body his body lets him down and I would certainly phrases but England out his body was in the NFL okay and you got hurt and he still after missing season came back I played with a lacerated kidney the playoff game and we're gonna remember for what he didn't do I get it Nick that's the waste that's we sports works in this country it's all about winning championships if you don't and if you walk away your brand the bomb but I don't look at him that way I look at a guy who you know what he made good on his promise but his body did not allow him to continue making good on it but I will look at the guys a failure at all I don't think that there's a difference to say that will remember him more for the things that he didn't do verses what he did then saying he's going to be bomb or a boss or a failure I think it's just looking back at his career and saying what could have been right because he is so so talented he has all the tools it's just looking back and saying them you know what if things fell into place what if he was able to stay healthy what if if he played until he was thirty five thirty six here is Greg Doyle's answer from the NBA star the J. since questions about how long would be remembered you're not gonna be remembered for what he did he can remember for what he didn't do what he left on dark even called quick message what's going to happen and it's a damn shame because he's he deserves better that I realized what he did I realize we did the scene I realize all that but this is not a sports story it's a human story this is a human
"john elway" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network
"Sports overnight America, and John Elway a great part of the recently reach rich history of Denver football. You know, we tend to have this recency bias when we you've valuate sports and we, you know, we base things on what we've seen and what we see in for the Denver Broncos over the last couple of seasons since Gary kubiak walked away from the game probably for health reasons and Vance Joseph took over the team starting with the twenty seventeen season. They've been a far cry from what they were when they want Super Bowl fifty first of all the quarterback position Denver. Bay looked to actually figure that out with the two thousand eighteen NFL draft. But we will know much about that into the, the moments jolt pads and they lock horns, the week after Labor Day coming up in September. But, you know, recent coaches with the Broncos, of course, you have Vance Joseph, the former Colorado quarterback back in his home state. He's been a very defensive minded head coach misnomers than we get about former players becoming coaches that they can only be successful coaching their own position or their own side of the football. And that has been. It's okay says that's very true. But when you look at good, head coaches in the NFL, it's not based on the position, they played or the position that they coordinated, but their ability to actually lead and tire and F, L football seem to, you know to, to some good places. Denver is not had a shortage of great players come through their system. But it's only been recently in the last twenty years, or so, that we've seen this team become championship caliber, you know that they were championship game caliber for a log time Craig Morton, went to a Super Bowl lost in before Elway won his fourth time out in the big game. He was over three you know that tire orange crush air..
Joe Horrigan leaves Pro Football Hall of Fame after 42 years
"Joe Horrigan. Yes. Forty two years, the keeper of the flame at the pro football fame his last day on the job as yesterday. Mean so would you see the buildings still standing? I don't know. Personally held it up in confirmed. But one of the nicest sweetest guys. ESPN did a story about have over the weekend. I mean he has been doing everything for the hall of fame. And in terms of a great story when we first. When we. Like the sweetest man he would be the ones calling the hall of famers on the phone to let them know. A couple times doing pretty cool, rich because. Yeah, because we all right? So I'll tell story here. So we're on the air in, in Houston, Texas, at the Super Bowl for Super Bowl thirty eight our first one we ever did. Okay. Or the calendar year two thousand four NFL season two thousand three year that the patriots. The panthers. And then we watched them beat the eagles the next year Jacksonville. So reason why I'm bringing this up is our set was right near in the convention center, I ever NFL total axis set right near the main convention center dra- hall like the largest room in the convention center where they held all the press conferences, including for the pro football hall of fame. Now all you folks out there. No, the pro football hall of fame class is announced now at the NFL honors they try to keep it quiet. David Baker, the president of the pro football hall of fame walks around and knocks on doors of hotel rooms were all the eligible finalists are holed up with their families hoping to hear that knock on the door, and it's created some really amazing video moments where David Baker lets the players know that. They're now fully enshrined. They're immortal. It's like a very nice. It's, it's like a publisher's clearinghouse moment without the check. Right. So that's the way it's done now. And they try and keep that quiet until it's announced that the NFL honors a used to be they just announced in the press conference. That's it. And the players who were finalists were invited to the Super Bowl city and those that thought they were gonna make it showed up. Others were working on TV in many other parts of their their lives. There were working professionally at the Super Bowl and for just happened to be there, and some just wouldn't show because they didn't wanna show up to the host city and then find out they didn't make it. It's expensive. You know, and it stinks. I remember one year Warren Moon. Told me the year he got in Warren Moon. Was in town, and he was driving in a car. Somewhere around the city. I forget, what city was announced he was ending his driving in a car, and he was either going to get the phone call from the hall to say that he was in and he'd show up at the convention center drive convention center, or you didn't get the call, Dr the airport. Town. So that's the way it used to be. We're sitting there. And our green room was right next to our NFL, total access at, and John Elway and Barry Sanders, went in that year together. Jill. Look that up for me, make sure that this might not a pulling this story here. Was it? John Elway in Barry Sanders. Think went into the same pro football hall of fame class in the summer of two thousand four. And they were announced N Houston together, and they were. Correct. And they were in our green room. They were in our green room, just chilling out before they were being brought into the draft hall into the into the convention center, press conference hall room. And being announced. And we got an idea at the NFL network. You know what? Let's make this a thing. Like we had video of them waiting, and just we could have interviewed them and like, okay so players are here. And the press conference is going there. Let's televise the press conference. So the next year, I was the host of the press conference, and it was. Difficult. Tap dancing for me when I'm up there and hard-bitten media of the NFL world was used to just having the announcement happen. Right. And those who were there showing up and they'd be there, and they'd find out the rest of them. Instead, we just drew. We I think I kinda Jim great it like we try to draw out and the people in the room. The media members room really getting pissed off. So next year, it was just like we're gonna nounce them and wait for the people to come and show up, and then I would interview them, but sometimes it would take them five ten minutes to get to the convention center. And then the meantime, we would Joe would get the guys who was not who are not there on the phone for me to interview live. I remember those. Joe a couple of times me on live NFL network television. Just trying to tap. That's I forget the name of the guy, you don't have to look it up either. He was a veterans committee. And shrining who had been out of public life for very long time. And I'll be honest with you, who I never heard of I had no idea, he played like it was really from a long time ago. But we were so desperate to fill time. Joe got him on the phone. I don't wanna say. Joe got the guy on the phone, and as we're coming back from commercial break, he tells me, so and so's on the phone, but he probably can only answer questions because he has dimension. Mike ally. Gosh and Joe then ran away. Because he had another phone call to make. Sweetheart. I mean this guy is just so and I just was okay. You know, this is a great moment for this man, I asked him a couple of questions. He was able to actually answer them. But Joe gave me that nice little heads up. You know, hey, just right heads up for you. I may not be able to answer a single question. Guy. He just a sweetheart of a guy and I just wanted to say, thank you, Joe, he's out there, driving around, or he's on the driving range, or wherever somebody just let them know gave a
NBA Draft 2019: Latest 1st-Round Order, Predictions
"And ladies and gentlemen, we have a new mock draft out Mel kiper Jr's three point. Oh is here with us. And we are looking forward to the draft. Mel will join us in just about an hour to talk about the new mock draft. But there have been some changes in the draft specifically one less quarterback. Now going in the first round then in mel's two point oh mock draft. So we have four in the two point oh mock draft with Daniel Jones from Duke rounding out of the last pick of the draft to the patriots in the first round of thirty two. There are only three quarterbacks now in the first round, according to mel's latest mock. And obviously a retirement might be a big reason why and the quarterbacks have changed as well. Right. As far as where they're they're going. Well, Cuyler he still has Tyler going number one derozan. Well in his last draft Cuyler going number thirteen to the dolphins. So now and this draft he hasn't going number one. He had. Dwayne Haskins going number six at a giant Kyle Murray. Going number thirteen to the to the dolphins. Drew lock going fifteen to the Redskins and Daniel Jones going thirty two to the patriots. So as you mentioned Daniel Jones now out of the first round, according to the latest mock draft by Mel kiper, just three quarterbacks Murray number one. The main says Dwayne Haskins at number six, and you start to hear reports that the giants may go defense was six and then was seventeen go quarterback. But right now twain Haskins at six and then drew lock sitting there at number thirteen for the dolphins. Does the only three quarterbacks in this latest first round. Yeah. Going to be very interesting because we know what the giants listen one thing. Dave Gettleman has made very clear he does not feel beholden to tell us his plan. And so I don't feel overly beholden to believe. A lot of what we're hearing coming out of the giants can't because if you've got a guy who's basic messages trust me, I got this. Well, then we understand he doesn't feel like he has to tell us the truth. So as we hear these things. Coming out. We also understand this time of year is about deception to an extent it's trying to manipulate the draft order trying to manipulate the opinions of certain players. So that you can try and put yourself in the best position to get the guys you ultimately want. So it makes it difficult to try and read the tea leaves it is although I have to say on cattlemans behalf. He said all of last spring saquon Barkley is a generational talent with the second overall pick. And that's where he went. Look, I think we all agreed. There has to be a quarterback in the giants future. Whether it's at six or seventeen trade now Cleveland, but it would not surprise me in the least if Dave Gettleman waited until the second or third round to take a quarterback this Dave Gettleman, he created that created, but he he made the term a more of a vernacular in the NFL draft hog molly's when he was the GM of the Carolina Panthers. He loves the big guys to hog mollies. And let's be honest. This draft is going to be decided outside of Kyla Murray. More than anything else about the big defensive lineman in this draft. The hog Molly is on the defensive side of the ball. So depending on your draft grades for your quarterbacks you could take one of those at six and then a quarterback at seventeen it all depends again on your on your draft great. If twain Haskins is highest on the board and draft grades. You don't pass that up. If you have a Dwayne Haskins drew lock. And whatever other quarterback equal in grades. You know, maybe use that seventeen pick baby can trade it up somehow to get one of those guys as I said, this always comes down to grades. Do. You have a choice amongst grades. Are you close enough in quarterbacks where if you don't get one you try and get the other? But we'll see we'll see, you know, one of the biggest changes in from the last two this for Mel was they had the patriots taken Daniel Jones a quarterback, and this one I serve Smith junior the tight end from Alabama going, and that would not be shocking at all you have really three out of the top tight end Hopkinson the kid from Iowa teammate, Noah Fant, and then Smith junior all three likely to go in the first round a three first round tight end to on the same team come on. And what would that tell you as we saw? The patriots jump into the first round and take a running back and Sony Michelle at the end of that. And now to see in the next year three tight ends going. We've talked about this. However, you want to split it. Last year were Quinton Nelson. Went in the top ten in the draft as an offensive guard. We saw roquan Smith going the top ten as a middle linebacker. The middle of the field is worthy. NFL is being built right now. And other teams are starting to catch up to what the patriots have done for years. The way that we've seen teams export that specific area and three tight ends in the first round would hammer that home not denying that. They are guys that are certainly probably more talented than usual tight end groups. We're used to seeing but it's also about value. It's why you see running back taking it to overall by the giants last year. I mean, the other thing is I think they're more interior linemen in this first round then quarterbacks right? Like, a not tackles guards and centers. There are more of those according to males latest mock than there are actual quarterbacks being taken which would be very unusual. So the top five in this new draft that Mel kiper put out is Kylie Murray. Number one of the cardinals Nick both the D N number two to the forty Niners. Number three. Josh Allen the outside backing backer pass rusher going to the jet number four Cornyn Williams. To the raiders and number five guy making a pretty big jump. Devon white going to Tampa Bay at five in the last mock draft he was number eleven to the Bengals now in mel's draft. He is sitting at number five number six twain Haskins seven Joon Taylor. The offense attack from Florida going to Jacksonville sweat, the D N going to the lions at eight Sean, Gary the D N going into the bills from Michigan and TJ Hopkinson. The tight end going to the Broncos at number ten. Here's here's what I wanted to talk to Mel about and one of the issues that I have laid on me big fella with with this draft comes, you know, some some point and one of them is there are few prospects in new first round projection who are making their debuts because of their combine performances. There are four guys who have jumped into mel's first round who weren't out there before again based on the combine combine performances. I don't understand that. I don't I don't understand that. If you wanna say. You looked at the combine to go back and look at tape of them. But to say, they're combine performance jumped them up that doesn't compute to me. Well, I think that's I think that's the assumption though, is because of their performance you went back and look and that. That's fair. That's why I want to ask them. How did this? Make you go back and study them more. Because if you're just basing things off the combine I got a real issue with that. Yeah. I I don't think you would do that or teams. But at the same time, you look at the positions of the majority of the players that would be involved in that. And I think this could be true for teams as well. It's interior offense. It is right. Three interior offensive linemen Terry McLaren the wide receiver, but when it comes to interior offensive lineman. You wanna talk about an area where the scouting grossly lags behind to actually great and overall draft. It's a difficult area for a lot of people to see and understand because you don't have the benefit of a lot of stats. You don't have the benefit of even the combine members necessarily always translating to production. So when those guys go and they paying and they flag in the model somewhere for what they do at the combine. And then you go back and spend some more time looking at a guy like Lindstrom who wasn't going to be a big name. He wasn't like, you know, Gary bradberry from North Carolina State won the Remington award this year. Like that guy was a stud Boston College was a middling. Okay. ACC team this year. So Lindstrom wasn't getting the credit. He deserved even being as good as he is. So you go back now, and even these NFL teams, maybe we're late to the party on some of these guys all of a sudden start giving them an extra. That's why I want to ask I just wanna make sure with Mel that because I'm just reading from the combine performance, and again, let's put a name. To those you mentioned McLaren the wide receiver who is one of the others. Chris Lynch reminder, you just mentioned from Boston College now. Number twenty one to Seattle Eric McCoy interior linemen going number twenty two to Baltimore. Right and the Garrett bradberry. The Senator from North Carolina State who is you mentioned one the Remington award is the best center in the country number thirty one to the LA Rams where they have an aging center, and John John Sullivan. And that was that was one of the things have been saying for the Rams the last couple of years that dynasties been built on the interior. If you land a guy like that good, Lord or you winning out it is. So we'll see how that plays out. Now, the one thing that I find interesting he he has drew lock the third quarterback Mel dozen his latest mock going thirteen in Miami. I'm telling you don't take out Denver at ten in Cincinnati of eleven in play for quarterbacks. I mean. Yeah. Denver made the play for Joe flacco. But John Elway has messed this up a couple of times with all due respect. I mean, that's just outside of getting Peyton Manning. He has not figured out the quarterback spot there at ten they might be in play for quarterback. And you have Andy Dalton with his situation with the Bengals and his contract situation. I, you know, I think that there's a really good chance that they could be in play with a quarterback there, by the way, by the way, Mel kiper Jr's mock draft not the biggest item related to the draft this week. That will have news for you guys. What more on that coming up later? This week
Best of The Herd: Andrew Luck
"Then you go to Andrew luck and the colts. I wanna talk about Andrew luck. I'm I luck is the best quarterback. I've seen out of college. Since like, John Elway that doesn't mean he's going to be end up. The best depends on the support system the coach and all that talk to my audience about because because obviously Andrew luck you one. Of the better players took a roster a rebuilt roster with a battle line and no running game to the AFC championship. What separates luck his humility. I think he's one of those guys when you look at him. He's Andrew luck. Like, he he should be put on a pedestal. But that's not that's so far from the truth with Andrew he does not want to be treated any better than the last guy on the Ross now thank that. Humility piece is what draws everyone to his attention. And aside from that. I mean, he's a heck of a talent as you mentioned. He he has all the twos cerebral ability. I think he's his likeability is just through the roof the one area that I think Andrew has taken a step for this past is being able to adapt his game. You know early on. It was less dropback five seven, oh I wanted to notable deep all the time. And you know, we saw where Gat him he didn't he weren't able to finish some season. So I think he's matured in that level. And I think as some point Andrews gotta take about a horse and star raising his voice. Thank you. I this is my knock on Andrew. He always takes the blame. He is. He is almost to a fault. It's almost false humility. Yes, it is. Okay. Sometimes to call a guy out. So I was there for three years, and I never seen him scream at anyone for given up a sack dropping a catch. I get it. But all it takes is one time. You're not to do it all the time because Chokwe Gado he he didn't want coach. He wanted coaches to coach not just scream and holler. And do all that stuff is because sometimes it doesn't work Andrew's case all it takes is one time by Brady barks about twice a year. Oh, I've played against Brady and Brady will give it to the refs the offensive tackle the running back. The deepest guy. He screaming at everyone when it calls for it. And I think Andrew when he can it's not who he is. You know? So if you understand if Chris Ballard understands that's not who he is you go you go out and get offense Allama who can be Andrews kind of alter ego, and you go solve the
"john elway" Discussed on Get Up!
"Now. We're looks like everyone else's Iran. I think you're probably right, right. But that doesn't mean it is right. Okay. Wait, one quick thing. Case keenum, Houston guy Kingsbury. They have a connection. If Kingsbury does move on from Josh Rosen or needs another quarterback might see that happen is true. That's the one quarterback that I think Kingsbury deserves some credit for developing what he did in Houston week with case keenum the rest of the guys that he gets credit for they were just really good. Can I tell you who the best passer is in Denver right now? It isn't Joe flacco, it isn't even John Elway aids. Nicola yoga. Candy kings at the nuggets last night, and how about Jalen favorite. Politica. Yokich look at that past touch loony. He's he can have all those Editing things. saying look at that throat. That's a better pet KMart and through all year long. Quarterback. I finale shows off the arm not once but twice looking throw in stride at twenty five yards right down receive. The call John Elway needs to make right continue LeBron under five hundred his Lakers bad on defense. You know, help on the way. What can they do? That's the question. We've got the answer is plus everyone concerned about Colin Murray tight. You will hear white Murray being shorter may actually be a good thing. Dominique we're gonna fight about that. It's getting. Huge half hour on the way here on get up as we continue. Jalen looking eagerly to see what's coming up. We've got LeBron James is it time for the Lakers to throw in the towel. Their season gets underway. We'll talk about that. Why you should not expect Tiger Woods to have a particularly good weekend in LA. And then Dominique is going to say something so ridiculous about collar Mary. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to sit through it. For about a get up on ESPN. Indeed knows it's hard to find qualified candidates when you're hiring..
"john elway" Discussed on NFL Live
"I mean, it's just it's just a push and therein lies just descent, but I think the bigger picture me. Forget Joe flacco to me, this is about John Elway. I just think that we've been John Milton this whole Peyton Manning thing for quite a while. The Denver Broncos have had a new quarterbacks almost along the lines of the Cleveland Browns. Right. I mean from Paxton Lynch to Brock Osweiler the trivia Trevor simian, I mean, the list goes on and on Denver. And it's just like you want you you wanted to you wanna most famous quarterbacks you you're at the most famous quarterback in Denver. But you can't saw. Yeah. This you that if you were in the position where let's go get a or have a veteran, and we're going to draft somebody or that we're going to draft a young kid early cheer point. There's no proof in Elway's history that he can draft develop a quarterback. And also if you're talking about which veteran you actually want in that room with a young guy, I would say case keenum over Joe flacco, Joe flacco just went through last year with Lamar Jackson did not seem to glowingly. Enjoy. Oh, here's this young guy. And I'm supposed to mentor him case. Keenum would be that perfect. Josh mccown type guy that loves being in that role helping young kid not with Fleming. Ask about case Cam for just Jeff because nobody there's a there's everybody has an expiration date. Right. Nobody wants to see a young kid drafted. But you get it. I'm sure as veteran quarterback you understand this. I think would be more difficult to understand if your case keenum because you're thinking really I mean, I'm here, and we did that this isn't a young guy. This isn't a hotshot in the draft. Well, this is tough to swallow. I would think John John Elway. Was very clear no uncertain terms to Peter King in his column re very recently talked about how case keenum is just a short term option. I mean, he said that while keenum was on roster before this trade was even made your kingdom. You're like what just signed me a year ago for two year?.
"john elway" Discussed on High Noon
"All before let us have this before you walk next quote. The worst kept secret at the senior bowl. John Elway is smitten with lock. Reported Marquez LA of the Denver post about Missouri quarterback. Drew lock. Would it be a good idea for the Broncos to take lock at number ten? I mean, maybe they need a quarterback. Right. Very bad. A need a quarterback. Now, if the lock is good enough for Elway to be smitten. Chances are he's not going to be there at number ten. That's not how the quarterback market happens to go. What has to worry about this, though, aside from the fact that John Elway thinking, you're good is not a clear sign that you are. In fact, good drew lock six foot four two and twenty five pounds. That's how they list them would a big arm. And if there's anything that executives that used to be players love to do is to get that guy. They see and it'd be like, you know, my meal. Me a little bit of myself. And that is what I think John Elway is doing here. I have heard and read mixed things about drew lock some alleged that he doesn't have the touchy throws a lot of fast balls that should be changed. All that is probably true. Would. I am worried about though is the fact that John Elway thinking that anyone is a lock even a guy literally named lock is a problem. Paxton Lynch, Brock Osweiler, case, keenum, Chad Kelly, at some point the great John Elway has to find someone who actually is anything like this. Well, cut us some slack. Right. Keenum Jehan to get a quarterback of the thing with those Lynch and aas wilder. They're both too tall. There's nobody. Nobody's been a good NFL quarterback the height that those guys are thinking miss that part quote. Is it true that it Washington? You would take a little sip of Hennessy before the game. Ask Christine Lahey. Former Washington football, great Clinton Portis. Let's listen. Is it true? That in Washington, you would take we'll set a Hennessy before the game. That's true. I don't understand if you're going out, right? If we're going to have a good time, you okay? Okay. So you going on the field. You looked at that. As like, you were going out with the voice to party. It was a turnover. You know for me. It wasn't like I was getting drunk, right? We'd so one shot, you know, and that was this kind of a wasn't taking toward oc-. I wasn't doing drogue. So after this. I was like okay now assigned to go do this instead of going to lay down and take the tornado shot, which all of a sudden comes out, and it's hazardous to your health is dangerous for you in all of this like I skip that curve. I was ready bowed to make fun of the man for literally pre gaming and confusing. A. A form of talking for literal plan of action for an athlete. But when you mentioned the toward all the opioids and like, yeah. Okay. Good point. But that's how he got here right now. I mean because these things don't seem to be that related the Hennessy and the Georgia that being said, I must say this about the hand and has been a while since I got dad with him dog. However, the Hindu, and what's numbs you're paying and makes you want to fight to be a proper combination of feelings that you wanna have if you're going to engage in a football game. It is in fact possible that he was onto something that my guess is it was a yellow label Hennessy and really make you wanna fight. I once drank a shot of poor trendy which is a mixture of petroleum Hennessy with Shane Batty at the Sloan sports analytics conference, I did wanna fight many many to fight you for the namedrop up next, man. We. It is though I'm glad Clinton Puertas. Do a hit us the nut. Then jerk, you know, about the Ergen shirt. I'm even afraid to ask what that you'll know about arc that you went to college. I don't know about the urge or all boys placid, and we were gonna make a joke about the jerk. But I will leave that alone. Today's number twenty five. That's how many points the grizzlies were up on the nuggets before losing ninety five to ninety two. Let's take a look at how this all ended for the grits. Nineteen in the second half. Time draining in the fourth. Kyle Anderson wide open and. Oh. File. Oh. Yup..
"john elway" Discussed on The Rich Eisen Show
"You wanna see those guys go through some of the heartache in the heartbreak ride face adversity adversity of what we saw maybe paid go through his first couple years or what drew Brees had to go through in the beginning of his career to get to this point. It shouldn't be this easy. And they're making it seem this ego. You wanna see the grit? You wanna see almost like the damn rano story. You know what? I mean, a guy who maybe gets close. Played in once didn't go back or John Elway. John Elway to lose three times four guys. Like, John Elway a great point. John Elway who had to wait so many years to get to this point and finally got to the Super Bowl and he ended up winning back to bed, but we saw the struggle. And it was the story line at pushed us and with these young quarterbacks in Patrick Mahomes, and Jerry golf both of these guys are basically almost getting the rewards way too early. So is that the matchup you want Kurt Morrison the football fan the fan? We'll get to the analyst and former player later in the show Kirk Morrison the fan, that's why we got a whole show the pondered. I can't give you the answer. I'm going to debate. I'm going to think about this. Because it's honestly I'm not gonna I woke up this morning thinking about what do I want as an analyst? What do I want as a fan? And what do I want for the future of the NFL because I think the NFL you possibly can go. Sides. You can say we want the older guys for this. Or both. One last run. And then hen impasse, the torch to the new younger generation, you can do that. You could do a lot of that. Or you can as I try to do my best part of segue. This will be call a segue, by the way to our next guest coming up in a little bit money. Schmidt in terms of the coaching carousel of the National Football League. How teams are hiring coaches to get to a point where we see these top four teams that are left the final four top four and scoring in the National Football League. Will the New York Jets hired Adam gates this week to hopefully boost the scoring of the jets but also to get into a championship game? Possibly like. These teams are so many Schmidt will join us, and I'll have a little more time to dive in. And just think just think what are we want and present that question everybody out there to what are you want? What do we want of the Super Bowl? So that's kind of what's on my my. Rich Eisen out. Kirk Morrison is in Benicia meta coming up we right back here on the rich Eisen show. Everybody's got it to do list. Drop off the dry cleaning pick-up some milk. Here's.
"john elway" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"New year off with fire fiery hot takes Mike you ready for this. Oh god. I guess Bobby. Okay. Mike. To the firehouse and put on Brunson flame retardant stuff here. Get ready to go here. My am I in like the splash zone version of this present? Because especially we we all know, given our stature that you guys are ultimately going to have to carry me out of this fire and save me. But I'm at least going to start the process, at least at least your light. That's we're going to start with some straight talk. Brought to you by straight talk wireless. Best phones, best networks, no contracts. Straighttalk fire. John elway. I know. I know John Elway the quarterback is a legend. I know. John Elway the quarterback is is absolutely. The brand of the Broncos for generations. I understand the greatness of John Elway heck is a raiders fan of girl. Watching him kick my butt. I understand the greatness of John Elway the quarterback the greatness of John Elway the GM. It's not there. I know we're only a few years removed from the Super Bowl. But let's remember that's Peyton Manning. Shall I give you the list of other quarterbacks that he's been responsible for it starts without a Trevor simian the second winningest quarterback? John Elway era Chevy. Simeon behind Peyton Manning. You got a little Tim tebow in there. The current case keenum your fourth winningest quarterback in the air Brock Osweiler. Paxton Lynch, Kyle Orton, how are those for some quarterback names a quarterback can't get a quarterback on this team? And it doesn't just end there. Gentlemen. I will also remind you that of his draft picks that do include von Miller, Bradley, Chubb. There's been a couple of good ones. They also include Sylvester Williams, Bradley Roby, Shane Ray. Paxton Lynch, and Garrett Bowles all guys that are not going to be on the team. He's not drafting, well, he can't get a quarterback for this team in his time to make a change in the front office for the Broncos Ellen needs to be fired. Who's gonna be the person that does that? That's going to do it. What? Organization has always off the Kansas. Can you give me a media pass for the Broncos on a headed to Denver? Clinton. Clint Eastwood John Wayne about going to feel like they're qualified to fire John Dryden, high right after mule. I feel like you just send him over there. Right now. He didn't clearly he's used to getting in their covert. So we can sneak him in there or something in the trunk. And it'll be good to go. You know, who should fire. Elway elway. Listen to the quote, the first guy. I look at the first guy. I look at is the guy I look at the guy in the mirror, and that's me. I'm just as responsible for this. If not more than anybody else because it's my responsibility to make sure we win more football games. I take full responsibility for that. I will do the best. I can continue to do the best. I can knowing we're going to try to compete for world championships. That's what I'm about. I hate to lose a hate it more now than I ever have if to look in the mirror, and a very convoluted statement, if you're gonna look in the mirror, and you're going to admit that you bear more responsibility than anybody else on the day that you fired somebody else how the heck do you? Not fire yourself. You say to make yourself feel better. This starts with me. You know, I'm starting with the man in the mirror. I'm asking you to feel changes ways who but he's not. But I'm not going through. This is just gonna make me feel better. And I know that I'm responsible for some of this. And I'm going to keep firing coaches to get one, right? Says I'm gonna take I'm going to take it L. And maybe I'm not the best person for this job. Yeah. I guess that's the thing too. Is people obviously are going to come out with that what he says that. But what do you expect him to say? That's the that's the thing. You're supposed to say when you drop the response in this spot. But no CEO's going to fire themselves. That's not how this works in this case general manager in this case might be there as well. So I it to me it seemed unrealistic to expect that can we talk about, you know, maybe this is a raw deal for Vance Joseph. When you look at what he was afforded the timeline on this because we start looking at some of the coaches that were let go in the last couple of days and the time line that you're afforded, and what you need to see or what you can even demonstrate in that limited samples is that lets, you know. All right. You can judge or not the kind of job. This guy's doing that might be in question but expecting John Elway to really hold himself accountable in the way that we all want, which is, you know, cut your own head off seemed to bid on realistic to me from the start the worst part for all these coaches is that some of these guys they take these jobs. There's only thirty two in the NFL. I understand. I mean, it's tough. It's the most concentrated business you're gonna find people are dying to get in there. But you're so dependent upon your Ross. Oster in your general manager. And some of the worst things that can happen is if you have a great Rosser no quarterback because everybody's gonna look and say, we've got all these other pieces, you should be able to make it work. Yeah. But the biggest piece the one that we need in the middle. Isn't there John? This is your job survey shows of came in. Yeah. That had a lot of success, historically, like, so then also you're competing against that. Like, this isn't the Browns and you're getting massive amounts of leeway. And I mean even in recent history years removed from that from that Super Bowl win. It's just crazy to me when you see this because I look at this offense. All right. You traded away to Maria's Thomas. They're obviously kind of in a rebuild right now. I don't know venture is the best coach in the world. I certainly couldn't tell you. If he's the worst though based upon what he's had to work with in. I'm going to factor into the division during my playing Philip rivers, Pat Mahomes. Hey, I guarantee you give me Pat Mahomes on this team. We're probably going eleven and five thirty and three wherever we're making the playoffs. But a little perspective on how bad this is. Ben the Broncos five and eleven and Vance Joseph first season six and ten this year. It's the first time since one thousand nine hundred seventy one and seventy two did the Broncos had finished with back-to-back losing seasons. It's also the first time the Broncos have had back to back seasons with ten or more losses ever. I mean think about that. This is the worst at like you can now say this is the worst period Broncos football in history. And it includes losses this year to San Francisco and Oakland two teams that will draft higher than the Broncos drafted. We'll Jeff so they they lost to teams that are worse than they are in the process of getting to six and ten. I mean, it is an epic fail right now. In denver. And that's not okay. Like, Pat, Pat bolan the Boleyn family has not dealt with this before. I don't understand. Why is great as John Elway the player is and as great as as sort of the statue of John Elway the quarterback is if you're if you're an ownership group, and you're looking at it, you're like, this is the worst you've ever had point. There's one constant through this that constant. I guess I mean, if you go to a restaurant, you have a good great meal one time, and then you have a lot of crappy meals, but you always keep remembering that good meal your head. That's Super Bowl. You think he gave us this? He can give us another cheap. Like, I'll go like if my favorite restaurant gives me two straight bad meals on. Oh, see, that's that's my favorite restaurant, two straight bad meals on let's conviction. Settle. No. If I could I could get there with that. Because I'm gonna remember the good times and hope that that's going to continue in return one day. And you're the thing journal. He's got a lot of cachet. Got with the Super Bowls went to is a player. He's got onto the GM or present. Whatever the heck his title is one of those. It's just a really hard thing to overcome that level. I mean, we talked about this with Pittsburgh, the familiarity you've got all the years and the layers that go into making that relationship you've got that in multiple levels now with a guy and John Elway. And so it becomes extremely, and listen, I I get it. Fair is a place where they judge pigs like saying, this is unfair is wrong. And I wish I could find a better word for it. But we look at this. And we don't think right. Vance Joseph is necessarily getting treated the way that we would all like to see a coach in that spot. But it becomes a situation. Where like Bobby said somebody's got an answer for this because they're judged against a standard that they have there. When you talk about those losses in the Cleveland Browns in the last few years looking at those records like really you guys are bent out of shape about that. And you're gonna fire the coach for that the Cincinnati Bengals it took them sixteen years to make that decision with some seasons mixed in there that might have looked like. That so. I guess I look at the end of that and say your standard and those relationships have created environment. That's going to be difficult until John Elway maybe gets lucky and finally hits on one of these quarterbacks law of averages. Eventually you get a good. Fire and just keep firing at twenty two years later, you will find the promised land. Well, this is what Elway had to say about it gonna try to compete for world championships. That's what I'm about. I hate the loose. I hate them more now than I ever have. And we're gonna do everything we can to get us back on track and guess a football game again back and compete from world championships. And that's what that's what we gotta do. You gotta take it. One step at a time. This is the first step life. Love it is about that winning life and hates them more now than ever has. Because frankly, I've lost more now than exactly I've taste. I have tasted that bitter bitter pill of defeat a lot more. Now, maybe if you didn't have to keep firing coaches, and maybe you're drafted quarterbacks. Well, or maybe if you can find a quarter, I'm just.