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EPISODE 033 - BRENDAN SHANAHAN, PGA CHAMPIONSHIP, JIM'S TROUBLING MEMORIES OF DORIS DAY

The Steve Warne Project - Sports

38:35 min | 2 years ago

EPISODE 033 - BRENDAN SHANAHAN, PGA CHAMPIONSHIP, JIM'S TROUBLING MEMORIES OF DORIS DAY

"Steve one project. Everybody. Welcome to the Steve worn project, presented by faces magazine. It's episode thirty three a daily podcast about sports, and whatever still had some major NHL executive signings in both Toronto and probably for the New York Rangers money cannot buy H L happiness, apparently the PGA championship. Fires up on Thursday at Bethpage Black Kentucky do it again. And saying goodbye to one of the funniest guys from our childhood, Tim Conway who passed away today the day record this show all still ahead here on the Steve Warren project episode thirty three greatest NHL player, by the way. We're number thirty three Patrick wa only guy ever to win NHL playoff MVP three times. Now faces magazine is our title sponsor. It's a fantastic magazine in every way, there are many of those out there, but faces is devoted our town. Our stories the new issue is out, and it's always something for hockey fans. Like the cover story sends defensemen Thomas Chabad and the latest on entertainment as well. Like twenty one pilots coming to town next week faces MAG dossier, and if you need a new vehicle you need to check out Jim K Ford, they flew simplify carbine with their new ad home. Test drive. They'll bring that test drive right to you, home or work. Whatever is best for you. Maybe try on the twenty nineteen Ford ranger for size. It's back after an eight year. Hiatus everyone looks good in a pickup truck. Book. Your at home test drive today. Jim k four dot com. You Ville drive in Orleans. All right. Let's get busy Jimmy's in our virtual studio. Our jimmy. When I was just a little girl. I asked my mummy what shall I be shall? I be toward Pluto known upload, shall I be the, and this is what she said to me draw them getting out here. Steve case, Sara, Sara, I've is Doris day dying. She did I remember Doris day as being one. She was one of the many who did the duet. That's now banned from all radio stations with Dean Martin the baby it's cold outside that everybody freaking out that it was a a musical Omar to rape. Yeah. Yeah. It was. It was crazy baby is Colo. I'm going to hold you down baby. It's called. I'm gonna have my way with you. With something like that. Wasn't it people need to settle the hell down? That's what I yeah. I was an overreaction. But Doris day, the reason I she was sort of the I I don't know how to put this. When I was when I was just finding my way Steve as a as a teenager. She was the first sort of older woman that floated my boat if you know what I mean, I went to I was thinking about her at night. Steve what I used to think about Doris day at night. That was my first that was my I think about at night. Steve are you sure you're not seventy? Are you sure I wanna see a birth certificate? Well, I'm just telling you that was the first I sort of thing that I feel ancient when I say Farah Fawcett and Lonnie Anderson, we're doing it for me you go doors day. She was. It was Doris day that sort of sort of was my discovery point. Steve maybe would Grace Kelly not want any of that. When I'm older, we literally just talked about all the things we could talk about on the show today. He goes it's kind of a slow day. Then I guess. Yeah. I guess so you anything you wanna talk about like, no this. That's fine. That's good. And then all of a sudden you ram doors day in my face right out of the gate. Well, very alarming. Yeah. Well, you brought up Tim Conway, right? Tim Conway died. I think today or yesterday died today as we record this. I wide love. Well, there's a famous skip many of them. You know, the Carol Burnett show, right? Was sort of what we grew up with or I did. Was a hilarious show of variety show hosted by Coburn that of course, I think anybody's in their early early forties or older would be familiar with the Carol Burnett show from their childhood. Yeah. Of course, the biggest thing was they laughed their head off their own skits that they would they would break from the script doing these doing. These little sketch sketches on the show and it became funnier than ever. And Tim Conway was his most famous I think was. Harvey Korman was his partner, and Tim Conway was a dentist, and he he was he injected injected the. The the freezing needle and he injected into his own thigh. I think and it would be came became a very household cult skit. Look it up on YouTube was very funny one. I always remember is I think it's name was like Mr. Todd ball or something and he had this receptionist. Who is a narrative will not very bright named MRs Wiggins, and he had this funky accent a MRs away gins over. The one character that that stayed with me. But you know, it's fine. A lot of didn't stand the test of time. But you know, he's great in the day and on the topic of things being kinda dated. And like I gave you hard time right now for Doris day. Right. Uh-huh. I feel like almost protective to some degree because inside edition has a YouTube channel and the way they portrayed, Tim Conway. The the headline read Tim Conway who voiced the character barnacle boy on SpongeBob squarepants has died. And then it goes on to say Conway was known to an earlier generation as one of the stars of the Carol Burnett show, total throwaway line. Can you believe that that's a little much? Okay. So let's move. Let's move into something more topical. Hang on. We can't. Okay. Couple of things. You're staying ancient or something happening here. I'm not staying current. I'm staying current good. So I went to the accountant today to do the taxes to there's no punch line here. Just fucking hate going. I hate doing it and all that stuff. Because I because I well, you know, I do all that when I got there. So I'm always a little nervous. And and then I was I was kind of upset when I left there. I don't know. I never organized very well Steve moneywise, and I got a consp- eating ticket today. Oh hate that. Okay. Now, I don't know if you have this in Ottawa, but they've decided here to change all the school zones in Edmonton to thirty kilometers. Okay. Do you really have you ever seen a thirty kilometer sign ever? Maybe maybe in a hospital parking lot or something. If if that if that. Yeah. So I I was going like forty five or something in a in a in a school zone thirty. So the guy gave me a fucking ticket hundred sixty three Snipes Stevie did knock it down. Then. Well, I tried to cry right is what I did. I tried to cry a little. Little over the top. You could have tried the, you know, that's a sure broad shoulders there officer. You know? Yeah. That's that's quite a quite a rock jaw you've God there. Well, I've never thought I've never pulled the gay card out. I never what do you soon? They're all gay all the police people know St. not at all they say one in ten though one in ten okay. So my tenth trick when they're going to give the guy while you look pretty good there. What what if the guy? What if the guy what if he is? What if he is and goes, yeah. Come back to the cruiser. What what am I what am I supposed to do? Well, do you want to beat the ticket or not? I'm going to listen. Don't you about down you come back to the cruiser, and you can beat my ticket? Ticket. That brings me back Steve to another story because I've told this story before, but I won't tell again, but you referred to Tabasco's in. All right. Yeah. Back in the day. We used to rip over there. You are really unimpressed with my sports lineup today. We're going we're still staying away from sports but carry on go. I didn't like it. It was I wasn't clicking for me. I don't have any bad stories about the guys. But we will talk about that. So what we what we used to do Steve's oh back in the day. Which was a lot of fun. We did a Christmas is a buddy the bar. We hung out at Nebot here called the sidetrack. What we did is. We got we got vests got policemen's vest like these orange vests, and we got policemen's hats. Okay. And and then we got a blow hairdryer, okay girls. Hairdryer? This is fun. You might even have to try Steve this Christmas. And so it looks like a radar gun. You know, the two of us are on the side of the road, and as a car driving by we point out like it's a radar gun. And then the other guy. Pulls him over waves of over. So these people are freaking out, and then when they stopped we come up to them, and we got trae Zam. Buca shots there. We used to give shot that book. Crazy crazy ship back in the day. I saw that on the red green show. He did that same thing. He didn't have the flair that you guys though with the trades Buca. Yeah. Merry christmas. All right before we jump into the sports remind people that faces magazine as our title sponsor Ottawa's premier magazine, telling Ottawa's best stories the new issue is out featuring the cover story sends defense. Thomas bought represented Canada at the world hockey championship. Former Senator Brian McGrath and sharing his inspirational life story faces MAG dot CA and fast paced world, Jim K Ford makes buying a new vehicle super easy with the new ad home. Test drive the bring the test drive right to you, home or work. Whatever is best for you. Book. Your at home test drive today. Jim k four dot com. Uviller drive in Orleans. The PGA championship is no longer. Glories lashed shots. They got away from that model anyway. But it certainly is not that in any way, shape or form because his now. Now, the number two major on the PGA calendar. It's going to be at the the black course at Bethpage state park in New York can Tiger Woods win for a second major in a rodeo think. Well, two stories here. Bethpage Black was one of the funniest written. Paragraphs by a writer after Sergio Garcia. I don't know. If it's the last time was at Bethpage Black, but Sergio Garcia was in it and Phil Mickelson was in. And there were two stories about them that that really stuck out from the first couple days of play during the PGA at Bethpage Black one was fills nipples. We're very apparent. Okay. You couldn't help. But look at him. When you saw them going Faulk look at the nipples on the guy. It was it was so obvious. This is the first time you notice them was the first time, I noticed them. But but everybody did everybody did it was before social media. But we've talked about it on the show. I think you even said we came on the next morning or something like did you see the nipples on federal, okay? This is crazy hardness arguments. They were hard to miss that day. He was a little pudgy and the other one that were driving people crazy was Sergio Garcia was was you know, beyond deliberate. How long he was taking when he was over the ball. He would he would sort of double clutch, you know, when he's sort of, you know, they do the Wagle back and forth over the ball. And they're they're bouncing their feet back and forth. But he would he would squeeze the club and then squeezes again squeezed against. You know, like grab a regret the club Soma so many times that the crowd started counting. All right by vote the second day because this thing came out the announcers were going bananas. How long surgery was taking? And so they started to count when he was squeezed one two three the crabbers. I'm not kidding. So a guy from USA today. I can't remember who the reporter was the writer wrote the next day, the two stories he called him Phil, Phil Nicholson, and and and then of course, he made this reference to Sergio see taking so long with the with the double clutching. He said, you know, to in today's round Sergio will be able to milk, Phil. Oh, no. Brilliant. It was absolutely brilliant. It was absolutely brilliant. But the Phil story I'm thinking of right now is that the last time Phil was at a major in New York. It was last year's US open. And we all remember that one for a very famous moment that will remember for always where Phil famously hits a pot that still moving like intentionally hit us still moving bad pot taking a two stroke penalty. And I was reading a story today that I thought was like what what am I reading here? It was like we'll New York Gulf fence forgive Phil. What they give crap what he talking about. Yeah. He was he was sort of spitting in the face of the of the PGA for how tough the greens were like they made them impossible to receive a shot in golf that means the ball won't stop. When it goes know when they talk about a green being fair and receiving shots means you can put check on it and the spin we'll take but the grains were so short. And so art that it was it was unfair. Completely unfair. So he he knocked his putt by then ran by and putted woes moving and I went freaked out about it. And do you think he really felt like he believed he'd be in better in better shape with a two stroke penalty than waiting for that ball to come to a stop. I think he was out of it. Probably obviously at that point. I think he just give a fuck here and said, here's what I think of this this setup, this course setup, but people freaked out for a couple of days, and that's a little idiot. Are they going to forgive him? You know? I you know, what I forgot about it until you brought it up. So I think everyone else gets forgiveness issue for most people. I think it's just a case of that that that was a a memorable moment. I've never seen a golfer do that ever. And he was clearly trying to make a point in turn amount that he didn't feel like he was in anymore anyway. And so yeah, might cost me a few spots in the standings. And maybe a couple of dollars. But he felt like at that stage. The whole thing was worth it. The thing about Bethpage. It's really acceptable that maybe a lot of people don't know that because most of the major championship venues like the last one that that little spot down in Georgia, not really acceptable. This one is though because the average weekend warrior can go and is not expensive highs prices seventy five bucks for a weekend round, forty five bucks for twilight, and that's just for New York state residents and for everybody else. It's one hundred fifty. So that's pretty neat. No, not at all. I mean, some people have to sleep in their car to get into. But funny thing about the black course, though is that it's got this warning sign that's kind of famous in case. Golfers need a reminder of what they're getting into like it looks literally like if you play. This course says warning the black horses an extremely difficult course, which we recommend only for highly skilled golfers. But this big massive word warning at the top of it. If you like if I play this course, I'm going to suffer fatality avalanche is gonna convince the big exactly there's another backing up for second. While I think about about the Phil Mickelson thing. And that Lasko that he did that he moved the, you know, they hit a moving which was like it was just thumbing his nose at his bucking round and his tournament and the PGA for the for how hard they made the the fear was the issue was later that because Phil did this, you know, made a mockery of his round and made a mockery of the of the setup of the course, the fear. They had was if that other guys down. On the road now in golf tournaments where they're out of it. Okay. Where they got no chance that they start to sorta. You know, kick a ball in the trap or something are are are puttable like a pool cue, you know, at the end of their a bunch of shit that they could do that could could make a mockery of the game. And so that's why there's this big stink about they're gonna whoa. Whoa. Don't anybody get an idea here that that you're gonna start to fuck around and make fun of the game? So that was that was one of the issues, of course, it never happened. But how do you like your chances for your boy DJ? Well, here's the deal. I I love DJ. Okay. I'm a male groupie as everyone knows as named. I know him. He knows me Steve hard to believe and we've spent spent time together, and there's no one else I ever cheer for anymore is Wayne son-in-law course, the then DJ, but the only story again like it was back in his day. The only story is Tiger Woods. I I really believe that when you when you bring up all the other like DJ, he's he's number. You know, he's flips off to between number one and two in the world. So he's one is he won the US opening what he's one is major Brooks KEPCO is credible story won the Ps. Depend defending won the PGA last year. Justin Thomas, Jordan speed is playing like shit, Rory. We're not sure what's going to happen. There's all the same names in there. But really the story is can Tiger Woods win. This thing after he won the master's can win. You know, it's it's the second leg of the grand slam. You know, that I I've been watching the golf channel they they cover this thing like crazy. Live from the PGA that goes on all week starts Sunday night, virtually and they're trying to make they're trying to make other stories. They're trying to make other things about it. And and I can just tell that the energy and all the focus is is on tiger. That's what I believe. I I don't know. What do you think? I think certainly as good a shot to win anybody right now. I mean you win at Augusta. And I think that's that was the conclusion of the comeback. He'd worked so hard like two and a half years earlier people were talking about I'm not talking about Kenny get to Jack's record. I'm not talking about Kenny when a PG a event, I'm talking is Gulf career over and to get where he did. I think he's got to be in a in a really good mental place. He's got a he's got that mentality. Now, I've done it before not can do it again after a decade of, you know, really scuffling, by his standards. And so now sure I think he's good at bed as anyone. I think there's lots of guys in there that can win. And I wonder if all those guys the DJ's the Brooks kept Kaz the Jordan speed sorority mcelroy's. Do you think the kind of role the rise or they kind of swept up in it because they? They kinda grew up watching this guys when they were this guy dominate when they were kids, and he's probably a big part of the reason they're golfers for sure they were you know, for sure they did there. I forget specific examples, but I remember a couple of interviews with other players who maybe even wanna tournament and in the post tournament interview with in the victory circle here with the guy someone ended up bringing up Tiger Woods went right, right? After this guy wanna tournament and the guy sort of snapped a little bit sorta snapped you know, it's where it was. I really really right now I won the sternum you're going to bring up tiger that he faltered in this thing. And and so a couple of guys got pissed off the difficulty with it was tagger was so good. So good that he he kept pouring it on. He kept pouring it on. And there's an example that I know of in not Graham to latte. Stephen Ames who's now on the senior tour who calls himself Canadian whereas born in the Caribbean or something. Trinidad tobago. I think. Yeah. From calgary. But but that's where he was more. But he, but he he's labeled as a Canadian enters these events is a Canadian. But he went in a in a pre-tournament interview match-play tournament, he wa- it was on the eve of the match. He was going to have with tiger. And they were interviewing him and the fucking idiot says, you know, what I'm not afraid of them. Okay. I'm not I'm not afraid of people like really. Yeah. I think I can beat them on every any given day. And you know, he's not he's beatable something like that. And you'd have to look it up, but tagger went onto now matchplay, of course, his hole by hole for for people. Don't know the different between metal plays yadda. While you're strokes and match plays hole by hole few. You get a five. I get a three. I'm just one hole up. Okay. And the, and of course, you you win when you run a guy out of holes and tiger wins goes nine up after nine holes. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. He he won the first night, which is incredible. But I don't mind that I still still don't mind the confidence. It looks terrible though. When you get worked over like that like taken out to the woodshed and tiger gives you the business. It looks bad for sure, but I don't mind the swagger. I always feel like guys wanna win. Whether you're talking about teams trashing other teams going into a big NHL game or golfers match player. Whatever I don't feel like the other guys going any harder or focusing anymore. Because you said what you said those guys or that guy. They wanna win regardless. I don't mind when guys have a little swagger. But boy does it look more Ron IQ. When when you don't really you're writing checks your your game can't cash. It was a little more than than just a guy in. Listen, I got play to win. You know? This guy's the overwhelming favourite. But I, but I think I can beat them. I think you know, that's fine. But he went a little over the top. You know, he went like, he's just another Gulf or something like that. You know? It's just another guy and fucking drilled. Just stand you stand to lose everything by making some sort of comment like that unless you're gonna way over the top would be funny. You know? Yeah. I think tan is asked you know, it'll be no problem at all killing. Yeah. It seems weird coming from a guy who's never wanna a major. He's won some vents, but not really a big name on the tour to be walking around with that level of sweat on strut and depict a winner in in these majors is very difficult because the top ten percent of the guys are also good. You know, you can mix. Justin Rose right is in there. There's a million other guys who could who could possibly win this thing. There's some guys coming on now a little bit who haven't been around in the last year or two. That of that found their game. You know, these Asian guys r r real good Decky is is playing pretty good again. And so, but it's still, you know, I'm watching it because tiger and my girlfriend DJ, that's me. All right. Let's get some hockey talking here before we wrap up today. I know that, you know, the the sort of mid tier type stories John Davidson, whose we used to have on the show quite a bit looks like he's going to get the old job of your buddy Glen say there's that being president of hockey operations say the step down in that role as president of hockey operations for the Rangers. And so John Davidson who's got this job with the Columbus, blue jackets. Same one looks like he's going to get that job. And another interesting signing a top executive. It's the re-signing of Brendan Shanahan with Toronto Maple Leafs. He got a six year extension, and I like Brendan Shanahan as a person of the funny. I think he's organized. I think he's lent all kinds of stability for that very shaky team both on and off the ice. And I think he's done a good job. It's been a very positive thing that he's been there. But there hasn't exactly been in my. Indian anyway, and he signs of genius yet. Like, he's written a big check for an established superstar. He's got Matthews. And he's let's see he's got Matthews and martyr Sewri at number one overall in number three overall in the draft, those aren't exactly rocket science type draft picks. So jury still out for me as to what he is. But I really like all the elements. He still brings to the table. And I think it's a good signing doing to hear something funny. Steve you sent me these notes. Okay. You send me these notes. You text me these notes, and I read I read this as Brendan Shanahan resigns with the Leafs. I'm not kidding you. All right. I'm not getting you. That's what I said. Well, that's why there was a dash between reading and signs. It's the same word, isn't it? Isn't it spelt as it might be a knee in there is there if you say resign, it's spelled the same way. It's just when there's a dash that means they've resigned, if there's no dash they resigned because I read this. Oh, well, why would he quit the leaves man? Fucking brutal move. I gotta learn how to read I guess Stevie. I gotta learn how to. Well, certainly the are interesting though, in that they've got a very interesting summer ahead in that Mitch martyr is an RFA, and he's got to be at ten million. And and can you have three Ford's combining for over thirty three million dollars. You've already got John Taveras at eleven million. You've already got Matthews at eleven million. Can you have three guys who are kind of in that double digit million salary range and the other stat I found interesting that I saw TSN earlier is that the final four NHL teams right now that are left. They don't have a single player making more than eight million dollars. Really interesting. Yeah. It well. I you know, we talked about this the other day about Columbus. Right. That they loaded up for the playoffs. Kuqa line. Right. Caroline, look at me recall that the GM we went and got a bunch of guys which I love to try and win a playoff and Toronto's. Gotta be around the corner Steve from this. Oh my God. You know, can they? And and I love the idea that they gave Shanahan another shot. You know to stay to stay with this team to give it to give a general manager a one one or two year extension in a year when the team. Didn't do so well or as well as to be expected, which is always the nightmare living in Toronto. So I love the six year thing. I love the year. Fuck what's the difference? Steve eight million or twelve million. You know, I've always said that like a bunch of people have said, it's so much money. What's what's the difference? You know? So I don't mind John Davidson for me is. They they need something there. I guess in New York, but it's it's it's sort of like. You know, what a bunch of guys be going after John Davidson normally would there be a bunch of teams in there to do it. I don't know. I don't know. He's got a good job with the Columbus blue jackets in that same role. But I think it's a case of going home. Right. Because that's where he played for many years as the goaltender for the New York. Rangers back in the nineteen seventies. And I was thinking about this like John Davidson is a character Brendan Shanahan a character. But it's interesting when they become NHL executives how they move into a sort of a quieter more stoic dignified. Roll like Brendan Shanahan like as a player. I remember being in the blues dressing room, and he and Craig Janney were sitting in addressing room, and they were yukking it up, and they just seem like great guys and John Davidson with the New York Rangers. He was a character for sure. Here's a bit of audio from back in the nineteen seventies. When John Davidson, Phil Esposito Rondo gay. And and one of the Maloney boys did a song called hockey sock. Rock and John Davidson played this weird cheesy DJ introducing the song hockey sock rock here. It is. Hey Dedi back with. Hey, because they've got some stiff, and I mean, a heavy competition in the video vote showdown from LA those hockey rockers from the Big Apple we've got Bilas potato day Maloney, run do gay on yours, truly John Davidson hot video hockey rock is coming at you right now. I can't even comment on that. Steve. It's so bad. Jeez. Nothing is so bad. It's terrible. Now, listen, I'll take great story. Steamer went did a gig in New York for the Rangers. And they haven't golf tournament every year for some sort of charity, but what they do is they honor they have their own hall of fame the new year. Rangers sorta hall of fame and they honor their own players each year, the pick a guy and the year. I did it. It was I was seeing the gig. And it was Phyllis Zito who they were going to give one of these hall of fame rings to and if people don't know fill at all he's he got pretty bitter at the end of his career. He was he was a very outspoken guy right from the days when he when he was did the Canada, Russia's here's when he had that, you know. When he freaked out right about Canadian fans and all that stuff from the seventy two series. Yep. Very famous interview. With was a Johnny e saw he that with maybe maybe it was it was sort of rinkside, right? It was bored over. He was in Tampa for awhile. You've got you've got a little pissed off there. I think he was front office with Tampa Bay. Anyway, at this event so say there is there and those two have never gotten along. Phillips, busy don't say they've never gotten along. And I actually slots was in my group that date and. Cristie Kerr was our was our pro pretty cool. Right. Use open. Nice. And anyway, at the end of the dinner or the dinner goes on we do a couple auction items. And then it's time for film, Phil Esposito to get up and accept his reign that they present to him. And he's he's had a few. Okay. He's got the red wine mouth going little bit. And he's had a few and say they're sitting at the table right in front below the opium. And and Phil gets up there, and this becomes a nightmare for the public relations department because Phil gets up and says, you know, what? So the the story going savers missed the playoffs at this point many years in a row after they won the Stanley Cup. Okay. Seven or eight or nine I don't ten or eleven years at role, and and fill up there, and you can tell he's not laughing a little bit drunk, and he goes, I tell you something I'll tell you what you know. There's a pretty good art. Now, this goes just received an honor from the team. Pretty good organization. But I got fucking fired. Okay. I fired for only missing the blast once in seven years, and he points, the flats egos. How did you fucking do? I'm not kidding you. I'm not kidding to almost pull them off. You know, it was fills feisty men fills fills feisty. So. John Davidson would be less so than than that. But in John Davis, one of the funniest guys you'll ever meet if you ever, you know, sit with them at the bar hilarious guy. It's a good story. But the second you mentioned Cristie Kerr I couldn't help but think back to that famous moment where she won the longs drugs challenge. And then wins a trophy. And honestly, it's really just unfortunate angles because she wins the trophy for winning this LPGA event, and the trophy itself looks very much like a small sailboat it's made a glass, and then there's a there's a golf ball at the top of what looks like a sailboat or something, but she goes to kiss it and all the photography as she kisses. It will now. Now, the angle has changed in. You're seeing the triangle of the sale from the side on the golf ball on top. It looks very much like she's key kissing a giant penis trophy. So. Google Cristie Kerr and the longs drugs challenge. Make your internet homework. You'll get a chuckle out of that. She she. So I played in the Gulf turn this story. I just told you Phil Esposito she was in her group. And I didn't know her and slaps was in my group and the other guy who was the chairman of Madison Square Garden sports, cool guy. Forget his name. Anyway, slats. I've no slats from all the years in Edmonton. And she's pretty tight like she gets up to the tea with the formalities and stuff like that. And say that I've had a million laughs on a golf course we've played together before in charity events and slats sorta elbows me, and he goes Jimmy worker over a little bit. What you we gotta loosen up. Right. If we're gonna win this thing, she's are pro. And I know what he means what he says that. So I don't know who she is. Steve I dunno are at all. I'm impressed that we're playing with her and she hits her we'll enter tee-shots and she hits her shot into a bunker. On the on the left side of the green. And I go. Oh, oh boy. That's bad action. You have gone there. She certainly looks at me say, there's laughing joking cigar going. I think what you're doing Christie's. You're coming over the top a little bit. You've got that flying right now. Right. And she's looking at her caddie, and I'm gonna just just just, you know, it's just so obvious. And then if I can walk away, right? And I walk the walk up to the green slats laughing going. Pour it on for give it to her get anyway, she's in the bunker, and doesn't quite get gets it about twenty feet away bad shot out of the trap. And I go how are you? How are you cashing checks out there possibly make any money with this shit? And she started snaps, right? And she goes, you know, what I gotta just shut up. You gotta just shut up. You know, what I'm going through here playing with you guys. And I'm saying I said, look it. I'm sorry. I've just it just doesn't look. Like, you have the talent that you would be able to make cuts out there shit. Like that and say there's either I could see him. Christie's facing Christie say there's behind her. And he's giving me. Okay. Fuck that's enough. Knock it off. And then of course, we all laughed her got to the and we won the tournament by about five shots. And then in a strong move Stevie Cristie Kerr is a gorgeous girl, we are auctioning off jersey, I got to go backstage strip take all your take all your shit off and come out with the jersey to model it strong strong move. I remember you did that with Hazel may wearing did. She had short golf shirt shorts on and you had her come out in a Toronto Maple Leafs jersey. And it didn't look like she hadn't anything else on it. That's the marshes. That's her was it. I thought it was a lock March. That's what I saw locked March Martius Bach March pretty close where does the time go Steve. I just didn't think I'd be able to piece anything together when I saw Brendan Shanahan resigns with the Leafs. Don't know, Jim, that's Reese. Good showing my friend magazine you as well, maybe we can finish up the show with you singing us out with some Doris day, given that she's well, she's with all the kids are into right? Okay. I'll send case are Sarah. And then you can you can do some with. 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Bruins are into the Stanley Cup Final: 5/17/19

Hockey Today

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Bruins are into the Stanley Cup Final: 5/17/19

"In this game misconduct podcast with Don the Greco. And welcome to the Friday edition of games conduct. I am down the Greco. We do have breaking news on taming this to five eastern time that John Davidson has resigned as president of the Columbus blue jackets. No surprise. So the second no surprise will be. I would think at some point probably early next week. John Davis will be announced the new gen president of the New York Rangers. That had been the rumor forever. There was some possibility that maybe because Columbus had one, and maybe because Columbus had made the run that they made that may be he might be coerced into staying. But it just seemed like a foregone conclusion the second to Glenn say they're at step down at the end of the regular season that John Davidson was going to be the guy so congratulations to him. It'll be good to see John Davidson around the garden, more often just seeing him when the Rangers took on the Columbus blue jackets. So not really sure exactly what direction this will will change the direction of the Rangers at all. Jim Schoenfeld stepped down as a cyst in general. Manager. That was also to be expected because he was the right hand. Man of blood say they're this. I think ushers in the era of Glen of the Glenn Sierra say their era being over. And now, Chris jury being the assistant to Jeff, Gordon and thou John Davidson would be able to oversee all of that. So I don't think the Rangers will change much direction. They got the second overall pick. I think the plan was cemented last February when they sent out the letter to season ticket holders, and I don't think that path is going to be changed. I think John will be on board with that. And as a trio move forward into a new era of Rangers hockey in it'll start with having the second overall pick coming up in the draft as soon as the Stanley Cup is awarded so you got that to look forward to if you're a ranger fan is John Davidson looks like he will be the new president will probably get more formation on that next week. Of course, the Boston Bruins now advanced to the Stanley Cup final no surprise here. The chariot turned back into a pumpkin for the Carolina Hurricanes now. That's not the say the hurricanes didn't deserve. Serve to make it to the conference final. They did. But I think they just went up against an opponent, that which is not going to be stopped, and unfortunately, for Carolina, their power play, when south, they couldn't get goals when they needed to, and it was just to show. He was the better goal tender. No question. I'm not sure that anybody was going to stop what Boston was about even of the islanders had beaten Carolina or whoever would have been interesting to see had the conference final been Tampa Boston as many people thought it should have been considering the two best teams in the NHL. They would not have obviously faced in the conference. Follow they would've faced each other in the second round, but that would have been a little bit of an easier. A more of a test, I think, for Boston, because I think the Bruins with the best second best team. The best team was Tampa wants Tampa was eliminated by Columbus. I thought it was a fait accompli. The Boston was going to advance, they got a little bit of a test from Columbus, but to Rask ended up being the better goal tender them abroad, ski and then clearly to caress was better than either. Meraz. Or Curtis mcelhinney. So Boston to me is the team to beat now. The sharks and the blues are gonna go at it. And it looks like they go out for a long time here, unless the blue just do not respond after the terrible call at the end of game to the cost of game. But I do think the blues will respond will have a long series. I'm not sure either of those two teams will beat the Boston Bruins, but we'll have to wait and see. Charred not play last night, didn't seem to matter. He got into full uniform to celebrate with his teammates after the victory and they did not touch the Wales conference trophy, which was no surprise Boston back in the Stanley Cup for the first time since two thousand thirteen trying to win their first Cup since the first time in twenty eleven. So we'll take a look at that as we get closer and closer. But right now, the focus is on the sharks, and the blues that series even with actually the sharks up two games to one after what happened in game three with the hand pass and just tell you how agreed just the call ended up being not that anybody needed any kind of explanation. How agreed USA was always at. At the red and blue Suare last night in the Bowery in lower Manhattan. Because I'm involved with the fire department and I was an honorary trustee last night for the police, and the fire, and I've gotten involved in that with me calling the of the firemen police game Madison Square Garden over the last couple of years, and it's to be an honorary chairman is certainly an honor and I got to see Mark Messier Mark Messier was there as one of the honorary chairman and he said he had not seen the hand pass because he was traveling. So I punched up the video for them. And he's kind of scrambling to get his glasses because he thought he was really going to have to concentrate and focus on the video to see if it was a hand pastor not, and even with my small phone and even with him not putting on his glasses yet his responses. Oh my God. Like he just couldn't believe how agreed just the miscall was, and we got into a discussion, and how unbelievable that good referees and he felt the John Rourke were good officials. That everyone could miss that, and, and according to the reports, and it looks like it's fact by now that the two officials in the two linesmen will not work anymore games the rest of the playoffs, whether you want to call that a punishment, or whether you want to just avoid any more controversy because certainly the spotlight would be on both of those officials for any game that they would call individually and certainly together for the rest of the playoffs, and if anything was questionable people would flip out, so give the National Hockey League credit. They responded to it obviously you can't change the rules in the middle of the game. So I'm sure the governor's meeting during the off season. The owners will get together the players association we'll get together, and they will figure out a way to correct. Some of the agreements mistakes that have taken place in this postseason. But the one thing you can control the rest of the way is making sure that when official or officials in this case make an egregious mistake that can cost the team of game. They do not work another playoff game. So you will not see either linesmen or either official. Calling any of the games remaining in this postseason, so that is it? So the remaining games of the Western Conference final. However, they may be in the Stanley Cup final will be absent, those four officials are tonight, sharks, and the blues and really what it comes down to, to me, Saint Louis is home. Saint Louis had that amazing second period, the mistake that they made was allowing the tour goal at the end of the third period that forced overtime and caused all this to happen anyway. But I thought the stretches when it was important the blues with a better team. And I think they will even the series up tonight. And I really felt this was going to go seven, and I'm not going to be swayed by that. But the one thing you did see in game three and we kind of discussed yesterday amidst, all the controversy was how the sharks did respond after what I thought was a really tough game to for them. They're getting beat up in the series. The blues are playing much more physical than they had in any other playoff series during the course of this postseason, and it is meant to wear the sharks down that did not happen in game three. Joe Thornton responded, I thought the team showed strength and got stronger Erik Karlsson with a couple of goals. So he was somebody hadn't scored since December, and there are a lot of questions about his health going into the series, so that could be bad news for the blues that the sharks are just not going away. And is there. Erin dip eighty here because it seems like every break has gone, the sharks way, the five minute major against Vegas, Landis cog, being offside against Colorado. What happened in game three with the blues is it just meant to be the sharks are supposed to go back to the Stanley Cup final. Maybe that's the case if you believe in that kind of karma, but the sharks did respond. Nothing should be taken away that the sharks have been given anything they've earned it. And another response here in another win in Saint Louis is going to tell me that it is going to be sharks, and the Bruins. But I expect the blues the respond. I don't think the blues one fall behind three games to one against anybody. And the blues out to play better at home. I mean they've been under five hundred or home throughout these playoffs. So there do, so I look for the blues to even the series up to, and maybe that's just my heart because I want to see a long series after the sweep in the Eastern Conference. But with Thornton plan, the way is Carlson plan the way is. I think it's going to be fun. And the other aspect of this series has been the lack of really goaltending. I mean, I'm not the goaltenders have been awful. But goals have been somewhat easy to come by in this series when teams of needed the score. They've scored despite the fact that neither team has been incredible on the power play. And Saint Louis obviously woke up a little bit with the man advantage in game three but for stretches, I one point there are one for twenty six one for twenty seven between the second and third round for Saint Louis, but still goals are being scored here. Tarasenko did wake up with a goal to for the blues? Let's not forget that in game three so this seems to be a series that's going to be close. But some goals are going to be scored if I'm a betting man, and I might use this on the Michael cassio bet the over, I think it's five five and a half. That's probably an easy bed because the goals are aplenty in this series and both goaltenders have given up some goals that maybe they like to have back, although at times, they have played well, this has not been a goaltender series per se. Who's the better off bents who's going to get the last goal type of series? And obviously it was the sharks in game three will see will happen tonight in game four at eight o'clock. Let's hear from you at down the Greg tag game. Conduct and a great question from forever t h who's your mount Rushmore of NHL announcers, all time. Well, I have to come up with four, it's hard not to have documented number one, I would, I would think doc would have to be on the mount Rushmore, and I've always been a fan of Bob Cole. He called his last game for hockey night and candidates CBC this past regular season. I always considered him a mentor, somebody that I've always able to talk to on the road have on my NHL live show of the voice of hockey night in Canada for years throughout the eighties and the nineties before Jim Houston came in and he has done an incredible job since replacing Bob Cole. And Bob and Harry Neale were an institution for a long time calling hockey night in Canada games, and growing up in the states. We didn't have access to hockey night in Canada. But what I always tried to do is try to get tapes of old games that he called. And you know in the devils won the Cup in ninety five I tried to find the CBC, call of that. And I was able to find it and get it on. VHS. S. So even though not until I started working games for the Rangers and traveling up the Canada was able to see a lot of live games from Bob Cole, but growing up able to get a lot of VHS tapes of his calls and his work with Harry Neil, and I get to see Harry all the time when I'm in buffalo calling arranger game because he's still hangs around the sabers and still loves up lives up there in the buffalo area. So it have to have Bob Cole up there. This one is a blast from the past, but I think anybody who's grown up in the United States, and we'll remember when ABC had the hockey contract, Gary Thorne I think he's very underrated hockey announcer. Gary, of course works. The Baltimore Orioles games needs to do white sock games. And he's a great baseball announcer to the Mets back of the day to the devils for a long time. That's when I was first introduced to him, and then he went onto ABC and some of the great championship calls that we saw when FOX lost the contract in the in the mid to late nineties, and it was taken over by ABC. And he SPN, Gary Thorne murky, making those calls in Gary working with Bill Clement, that was a tremendous team if you remember ESPN ABC days going back, you know, fifteen years ago that was a tremendous team here in the United States. So I'd have to Gary Thorne on that list. And when you think nationally, there's so many other guys, and I'm kind of hesitant to pick a favorite because there are so many so many great announcers, working with Sam Rosen with the New York Rangers. And I think we have excellent announcers here in the New York area. There's so many good announcers around the league that I run into a very underrated guy. And he got a lot of exposure during those Cup bronze for the Chicago. Blackhawks his John Wiedeman, I think, pound for pound is one of the best that I've ever heard. He's also a very good friend, a great Xs and os, announcer knows exactly when to get excited and fired up. And he was on top of that call when they won in two thousand ten against the Philadelphia Flyers. When nobody in the building, including myself that was at the building in Philadelphia the time. Knew that, that Patrick Kane goal went in, but he did a flawless. Call John Wiedeman did the flyers back in the day did the islanders. That's when I I got a chance to meet him because they were the first Daschle there were the first team that we actually had a relationship with here on ESPN radio and John games with Chris king, and now moved onto the Chicago. Blackhawks excellent answer. Kenny, Albert obviously, not just with the Rangers, but everything he does around the National Hockey League as well. So I'm gonna leave that third spot open because there's just so many guys that I really can't come up with a fourth guy. Jim Houston, of course, great job for for hockey night, and canon now filling in a replacing. Bob Cole so many great announcers, so many you can go foster Hewitt back in the day, which is obviously before my time, but he was like the founder how it all got started. So I'll go with those three for now of Gary, Gary Thorne, Mike doc Emmerick, and of course looking at the grand scope a of announcing. Ng. Gary Thorne and Bob Cole. And my game Arik will be the three that I would probably have to put up there Jake Cole says to harass elimination games these playoffs. He's four no with nine seventy five percent percentage zero point seven five goals against average. He's been straight money. He really has been, and I think, on the west side, it's Logan, Qatar. That's the favorite to win. The consummate with his fourteen goals that lead the NHL, and I think to grasp by far would be the east guy. I think those would be the two candidates for sure. Ronnie L says hi down with all this replay, talk and miss Coles any chance of a retired official like Gary Carey Frazier coming on game is conduct loved to get his take on the on the NHL and this he'd be a perfect guest and the perfect hair, of course of all time. Thanks, you know if you can follow carry Frazier on Twitter. He always seems to respond and have have a call on, on what's going on. He always gives a great perspective. I love to be able to get him on for sure. Paul Stewart's and other guy. That's very opinionated. So I'll try to do that. I think that's a really a really good suggestion by you. Because I think getting former officials on to talk about this great, plus any of the old school guys, if you remember like Kerry Frazier. Of course, he was involved in the controversy between the leaves and the kings back in the ninety three conference final on that high sticking missed call back in that game. I believe it was game five maybe game four and half. They look back and think between the kings and the Maple Leafs certainly cost the maple leaves a chance to go. To the Stanley Cup final who's working by himself. This was prey to referees into linesman when there was only one set of is that can make the call. So I'm sure they would have some great stories to talk about chicken McDougal's this, I Don longtime listener first-time. Tweeter. Maybe my knowledge of the rule is rusty. But I always thought that the batting the puck was legal Meyer never closed his hand on the puck. Why should it have been a hand pass love the show? Keep it up while anything in the offense of zone in which you that the puck with your hand to create an advantage would be called a hand pass if it's directed towards the net and goes in the gold is waved off, if you bat it to yourself, and you're the first touch after you, bad it, then that would be waved off. So it's not really a delay game closing the puck. If you bat the puck to another player that's gaining an advantage. That player is the first touch it after was bad at out of the air, that would be deemed to hand. Pass and clearly Maier deflected, the puck off of his hand towards Nyquist Nyquist got it to Carlsson Karlsson finished it for the goal. So clearly that was the right call to say that. It was a hand pass. They just missed it. I mean, let's not Dr this up as they saw and said that it wasn't a hand pass or they booked at it and thought it missed his hand or they thought that he batted it out of the air and deflected off of his stick, and that's why they didn't whistle. They miss the call. They did not see it period. So let's not pretend that they saw something differently than everybody else. Did they missed the league and missed admitted they missed it? They've been taken off of any other playoff games because they missed it. It happens. And to me, that's more forgivable than seeing something that didn't happen, right? Where you call the trip that didn't happen if you call the hand pass the didn't happen. Why are you seeing something that didn't happen? It's more believable that you would. And see something that actually happened. It's a very fast game. But we'll talk about it a lot during the offseason, believe me. The NHL has gotten so much negative attention because of this they will do something about it during the course of the off season. It will be corrected. There's no question that it will be corrected. Whether you're going to be satisfied with that correction or not, hey, that's in the eye of the ball to believe me, I'm sure we'll get some complaining during the regular season. Next year. I can't believe there are so many replays. I can't believe how long the game is going. I can't believe that the moment men, the meta my team was taken away because there was a review fans. Love the complain. I get it. But on this particular subject on this particular play, it's a non judgment call. It was missed. We've got the technology. Let's fix it. Especially when it leads to a goal directly. And that's what happened on that play. Are we got a big weekend? We have game four tonight and game five coming up on Sunday. So if we see the sharks win the next two when I rejoined you on Monday. We could have a Stanley Cup final preview. I suspect the blues are still alive, and we will still have more of the Western Conference. But Monday means EJ Radic from the NFL network. So we'll talk to him coming up on Monday, and he questions comments frustrations. You always get in touch with me on the weekend at Donald Gregg. Hashtag game has conduct looking forward to talking to you again on Monday. This was the Friday edition of game is conduct. Skis the game misconduct podcast with done the Greco.

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Shark tank losing water

Hockey Today

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Shark tank losing water

"The lease. That game misconduct podcast with Don league-record and welcome to the Monday edition of game has conduct down the Greco Monday means. E J Radic from the NHL network, NHL now, four to six PM eastern time. How are you, sir? I'm great. How you doing today? Good. I tweeted out we're going to recap the weekend, but we have not had you on, since the hand pass and figure, that's probably the best way to start. An and listen is anybody. Listen to this podcast. We've talked about a longtime my feelings on expanding replay. I think it's very dicey. I can't just have every bad call saying they should review that they should review that this one seems like a pretty easy fix EJ. You know, leads to a goal just include a hand pass the same way, you would a distinct kicking motion the same way you would and offside. I mean, I think this could be a very easy fix. Well, I mean, I think you know, like maybe just review all the goals, all scoring plays out of things that could happen in them. But I. There's no question about that. You know, Marquette was the referee. He was kind of blocked there. But, you know, I think he could've done better job getting out to the goal line again in front of that play more. But, you know, these are things that the officials is hard said, many times that it's very, very hard job and that was the midst. I don't know what else to say. I mean, there was I looked at it where the officials were the only other knowing guy who had really any chance of seeing it was the line's been on the, the close side, there Murray and even for him, it would have been you know, he might have been blocked by Schwartz so not easy. Now it's just one of those things in and I respect Larry Brooks of courses all Famer. And he suggested like what you suggested just making every goal reviewable and he, I don't know if he's suggested that he was talking about that. The idea is problematic, because, you know, you'd have to look at all these things I mean, I look at it this way review the things that lead up to a scoring plane. And you know you're not gonna go back like two and a half minutes. Well, see, that's the thing. He I mean he wasn't suggested. And he was suggesting that, that could be dicey. Just because as you said, what are we going to go back to an F minutes? What would I would say that is these video coaches for each team or outstanding where if there were an offside, they would have challenged it anyway, because if you say, like Jerry deneen I've gotten to know with the Rangers. He's, he's always right? They wouldn't now. Now with the penalty, there's no way they're going to challenge, unless they know beyond the shadow of a doubt that it's offside and they know every time it's cross every time the team enters zone. They looked to see if it's offside or not. So I, I really don't even think that's an issue because it would have been challenged anyway. But if there were a hand pass or or anything else then you'd be able to detect it. I think if you review the elements around scoring play gives you an opportunity to look at it gives you it gives you, it gives you an out to evaluate it because like the other night. In that game. There was no other was no way out. The officials they missed it. It's not reviewable. There's nothing they can do so by saying that you're going to review the goal, you know, all scoring plays like they do in the NFL you know fewer scoring plays. But you know really games. I guess the NFL more than anything else, right over scoring plays. And then fell gave just as there are you know in hockey? So I think that way you give yourself an out. You know, another idea. I heard from a friend of ours, Craig Button, these maybe just the coaches to challenges each and they could challenge anything they want and outside of judgment call, you know, a tripping penalty or something like that. But puck over glass which in that very same game. Puck over glass was missed. I think that's one of the easiest ones to review and get right? You know, the accidental, high stick where you hide stick the wrong guy or the U. Hi, stick yourself. And then somebody gets the Brian for it. You know, things like that. I think are easy to kind of look at video review. But, you know, we're not going backwards and the other issue too is that, you know, and I thought about it in that game is that they're, you know, the element of gambling in hockey is growing and because of that. And because the ability to review, I think we're gonna have to, you know, you're going to have to review and look at a lot of things just because there's, there's a lot of money at stake now and it's the integrity of the game is at stake, you know in those situations. So I don't think the genius going back in the bottle, I wouldn't if the league, you know, their leadership was strong enough to say, hey, you know, we are okay with the oxide being handled by the linesman. And, you know, basically, it's within the spirit of a wool to be offside by, like a quarter of an inch. Maybe they let that they decide to go on that. But again, that's something that has now when seeing that it's the number of cases when you know, it's the block and white rule. And, and it gets the it gets violated. So I mean it's a tough, I think it's a tough thing for all the sports that I think they're all dealing with their own ways. I mean I know I watched baseball games that I've constantly amazed at the strike zone and baseball with significant or hate. I mean, like ball, one strike, one in baseball at the start of a of account changes the whole of that. And so, you know, baseball is having to deal with that is, you know, over time and, you know, we'll hockey we have our challenges here and, you know, this is certainly one of them, but I think especially because of the advent of pro sports betting that you, you have to take all these things into account, and you have to be aware of the, the potential of, you know, the look the sniff the smell. All of rioting. Yeah, there's no question, and it comes right down to this again, as a as a grievous, call as it was the blues kind of let it happen by giving up the goal in the final minute. Otherwise, they would have won that game in regulation. And if you believe in the fallacy of the predetermined outcome would have clinched the series last yesterday afternoon with a win and then. All right. Let's say with the goal doesn't necessarily mean the blues win the game in overtime the shark four ten seconds later. But what has happened since, then he Jay is the blues of really flex their muscle on this was the concern that we had going into the series. It's why I picked the blues in seven. I just think the sharks are wearing down and you're starting to see what Carlson's injury now Pevez sqi takes a hit. I'm not sure if that should be a disciplinary action, not with the hit to the head and all that we can discuss that in a second, but you're starting to see a team that's played a lot of games. And I think the stronger maybe a little younger team is starting to show here in the latter stages of this Western Conference final. Well, I knew at the end of the day. At the. You know it's funny. They both play almost identical amount of games. Right. I mean San Jose is played one more game. Right. Louis. Saint Louis was coming off a seven game series as well. So, you know, that's one of the things I think, when I looked out at the shore of the series, I thought the charts higher guys will better, but the Saint Louis blues one twenty two roster deeper. And I think you're seeing that with the contributions that we're getting from the fourth line, just terrific. You know, Barbara shove and son quiz and seen I think those guys have been a difference maker. They've been much like the fourth line for the Bruins have been throughout the playoffs this year with the corral, and then company, there so of, of Louis have worn the sharks. Now, there's no question. There's a number of injuries now that we have to look out. I mean you know era from just look shot. I mean I don't know where they I mean doesn't have a full stride. He's obviously got some kind of groin or or core issue that has been a big problem for him. He's doing the best you can. But, you know, it's just, you know, I think tomorrow night, if you're playing, but all you gotta play seventy and you just have to play him on power plays. And that's it. So I don't know if that's possible. But I mean I just think it's going to be a struggle for him, Joe pavilion. If you have a hard time thinking that he's coming back after what he's been through. And then getting hit again looks like possibly can cost again yesterday I have a hard time thinking he's gonna play I have no idea. What's going to happen till Marshall, you know, he can't be played in the game for while after getting hit from Barbara shove. And then he he retired her locker room. So the only thing I will say, you know, for the San Jose, Sharks, and their defense here. Isn't they look at it? And buried after game four against the Vegas Golden Knights around one they've got some really high in players. They got the highest people their competitors. And, you know, I I I'm not gonna count him out after what I saw in that series against Vegas. 'cause they were general, it'd be in that one, but they are up against it right now because they are banged up at the Saint Louis blues are feeling now they're definitely feeling it. And if they win that game, or when there any of the next two or either the next two, then we'd have a rematch in nineteen seventy with Bobby ORR flying through the air with the game winning goal in game four and overtime. And, and honestly, I don't want to disrespect those three teams the went to the Stanley Cup final. But this is almost be like their first trip. Right. I mean an expansion team was going to go back, then they put all the expansion teams in the same conference. So that meant an expansion team was going to go and the Scotty Bowman led blues, just we're a little ahead of everybody else. But you know so many near misses and so many great regular season teams so many disappointments in the postseason. It would be a tremendous story and even being indep. I'd last January third of this season able to go to the Stanley Cup final would be a heck of a story. Yeah, it just goes to show you that things can come together in a season for team and the arrival of Bennington, but a difference maker, you know, over the weekend, I spent the weekend in Allentown, Pennsylvania, with the USA hockey level, four coaching conference, which, you know, I was able to get my level four certificate now. So that's really good for me in terms of nice doing my youth hockey things, but through the weekend, Ryan Walter was there, the former capital and Canadian and cannot get played fifteen or so years in the league and won the Stanley Cup with the eighty six Canadians, and he told the story of that team and he said, really February of that year we said we were dysfunctional. And he said, for sure, we thought there was going to be a trade or a coaching change. And then the, the general manager of that team at the time search warrant he goes to the end we he. Opted not to do anything, and he goes between February and may, you know, all of a sudden, at the end of the run, and we are the Stanley Cup champions, that, you know, and that's was Patrick, wow, was or young goalie that kind of came out of nowhere, and let the way for the Canadians in this case, you know, years and years later, it's it's your bidding and who's kind of, you know, come onto the scene in January, then the blues taken off. So the hockey seasons are interesting and the ebbs and flows and how teams can find their way, and particularly now that it's so close there that the Saint Louis blues we've, you know, we've done the math. They've been the best team in hockey since January, the third, and I guess I shouldn't be surprised that they are one game away from going to the family. So the message is just don't fall too far out of it. I mean if you hang in there, then you have a chance, it's a long as you said a long long season January third. So like seems like your deep into the season because the calendar, you know, had flipped over. So they're still alive. Lot of hockey to be played after that. And the blues took advantage of it, and now are five wins away from winning their first ever Stanley Cup and their weights. Boston similar to all these other teams that had to wait, it probably is good for Boston to get some, some rest here, right? Because they get a lot older players chara looks like it'd be ready for the final, which now officially is gonna start next Monday a week from today. You know, crates he's been around for a while? Marcia has been around for a while. There were there were five players EJ, I think four or five players that were actually on that owned nine team that last played Carolina. So it just shows you there's a lot of length there. I mean there's guys like Carlo and McEvoy they've got younger players, but, you know, they've got a lot of older players that probably are gonna use this week plus off to their advantage. Well. A lot of time. A lot of time they're going to miss. I think eleven days between when they played lots and the Cup final. I think the last sixteen that have had a long lay-off for a longer lay off their opponent have all lost. So you know include the Bruins in two thousand thirteen they had a longer lay in the Blackhawks at your so we'll tell plays out. But I mean if indeed were to get a blues Bruins final, and then the teams are very similar their deep teams with experienced guys at the top of their clubs. And I mean, the biggest difference is that the Bruins haven't experienced goaltender that's been there in two carafe, and the, and the blues have rookie, Jordan Benneton, but, you know, he's played he's been anything like a rookie. And you know, a funny side note to that is if these teams play Jordan Bennington played some games for the providence. Bruins last year as part of being loaned out. I mean, that's how far off the depth chart. Right. Was with the blues. So I mean there is some familiarity with Jordan Bennington with some of those younger players probably in Boston. And, and some of that, Oregon. Station that stretches back, you know, in the providence. So they'll have a little bit of a book on, on Bennington, and they've played. May have earlier in the year. And you know, he was he was excellent against them, certainly in the game in Saint Louis. When the blues were able to win that one, I believe in a shootout to what that's what we're looking forward to it. And of course we got the game Tuesday for game six and we'll see if they'll be a game seven hope and they'll be just from a fan standpoint and, and all that plays into the that'd be. That'd be something if the sharks do come back. Right. I mean how many teams have you seen play twenty one games before they even get to the Stanley Cup final? I would just be an unbelievable story Rangers like I mean that's like the tour Torello ranger were has all those games ever liberally. Yeah. Just could not finish teams often it ended up costing them. It did cost him in two thousand twelve in the conference final. I thought the devils who had played less games. They had to go seven in the first round but just went five against Philadelphia and round two in those that doesn't sound like a lot. But those two extra games less, you know, it, it can definitely help. And let's not forget to you as you mentioned before just one just one extra game. For the sharks compared to the blues, but just the heavy lifting of coming back from three one down and all the overtime games that they played. I mean they probably played an extra game just from the amount of overtime that they had played just to be able to get through so, you know, so it's crazy. All right. Come other news notes before we get to the tweets John Davidson, I guess, no surprise, is the new president of. Of the New York Rangers. And I and I've been assured by my connections there that he he's fitting in naturally. He's not gonna come in here and start making changes. He's simpatico with what has already been planted in their recording and jewelry, and Sean feld steps down. So the era of Glen say there is now over and John Davidson, I've been a short is gonna fit in, I guess there was some concern that, you know, because he had some success in Columbus that he might want to do his own thing. But it sounds like he's on the same page. Well, I think John, you know, he knows the circumstance of, of the players because you know, he's had a milliards with the franchise going way back. Right. So he knows kind of what's going on. I think that he will come in he will evaluate you know, and see how this rebuild is continuing to go. And I think if there's any bumps in the road or any concerns, you know, he, he will. I think, you know, guys you like to put their imprint or their stamp on things in some way. And I'm sure that there are there will be a, you know, a couple of people that might be out there that he thinks are good fits to be within the range organization, some capacity. So I guess we'll see how that plays out. But I think he you know, he's a smart enough guy to know that you gotta come in and evaluate the situation up close. He hasn't had the ability to evaluated up close now on a while. So you know, but I think it was no surprise. They've got the guy they wanted I think that targeted him and, you know, for a long time, and I know these things you know, who knows what gets discussed. With who there's always, you know, backchannel things that happened. That's just the, the real world. We live in, and I'm not surprised. He's coming in, and, you know, we wish him all the best. I mean, John Davidson has been a he's been a, you know, a franchise you know, a big figure in their franchise's history back to what he was the Rangers on a great run in nineteen seventy nine with some terrific goaltending. And then, you know afterwards for several what a couple of two two and a half decades. The play is the color guy, along with Sam Rosen on their TV. So fans are very, very familiar with them. And I think you'll come in and he's got some good experience. Now he was in Saint Louis Columbus. Oh. He's experienced executive coming into the situation in New York, and there's nothing wrong with having someone that the fans absolutely adore to kinda forward your message. Right. And you know, Jeff Gordon's a hockey guy, and he's not bad on the air at all. Chris jury. They've kind of kept I somewhat protected. He, he hasn't really been out there since taking over, you know, as part of their regime, there with the rain. Injures. But, you know, Jay deal go on the shows you'll handle the press conferences, because, you know, I do think that you can turn things over fairly quickly in sports now EJ I think the five year plan those don't exist anymore. Even to three year plan is starting to go away. I mean you hit the reset button, you're expected to win, you know within the next couple of years. But if this does end up being a little bit slower and it doesn't sound like they're going to go and dive directly into big name, reagents, although, Pinera, and maybe something to falls into their lap. You know, if you are going to go a couple more years of missing the ploughs, this isn't a bad face to put on that, you know, to kind of sell your fans on. Hey, we're moving in the right direction. I think that's also very much a part of sports nowadays. Right. Yeah, that's the part of it. But, you know, he is someone that is, as you mentioned, I think, pretty beloved by the fan here, and if things go, well, he'll continue to be beloved if things go less than well then I guess, we'll have to play now exactly. I guess they seem like they're very much on the, on the right page what they're doing with all the draft picks the prospects. Now they gotta make turn those draft picks into into guys that can help them win on the ice. And certainly having the second overall pick is going to go a long way to doing that. Sounds like Patrick wa is going to be a candidate for these senators head coaching job, your thoughts on that. Well, I mean, it'd be interesting, right. Because you have an owner there and Eugene Melvin who's kind of, you know, I guess, to be kind just as, as a character and, you know, financially, I've, I've always, I've wondered last couple of years if he has the wherewithal to really to run that thing as, as you like I think he's been holding on until the franchise can get a. A new facility maybe built in the downtown Ottawa area, which has been the talk over the last couple of years of a possibility of that happening. And if if it did, it would certainly raise the value of the team in any kind of sale, but you know, as for Patrick wa I mean Patrick likes to be in control and the your meek guy himself. So you know that's the way it goes. I mean, the I'll be curious to see you know how if that happens. I mean, how it'll work Patrick had success in his first year was a coach in, in Colorado. He's have a lot of young players, certainly in in Ottawa's to, to work with but you know, he's a big name. And, you know, the Ottawa Senators, I mean, the way things have gone, there, the last couple of years, they could certainly, you know, maybe, you know, a big name who was willing to go, there would be helpful in their in their quest to get over the next couple of years. And for people that don't know their Canadian geography, you know, there's so much about the, the rivalry between the Canadians and the Maple Leafs. And really, that's just because their original sixteens Ottawa and Montreal or like an hour and a half apart. I mean they're very, very close. So I'm sure there's a lot of people in Ottawa that might have grew up Canadians fans the kind of converted to Senator fans because it was in their community. I think he'd have a lot of cachet there in Ottawa because it's been stale there for a while. Right. EJ. Mean they've, I've always kind of they kind of reminded me of the New Jersey Devils of Canada, right? They're, they're a little too close to Montreal and Toronto. And, you know they're not quite the, you know, the have the following of the other big Canadian cities, they've been good, but not, he'll not great for a while and the to get a little shot in the arm probably wouldn't be a bad idea to get the fans. Go in there a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. I think that would make them a little more relevant. You know with having Patrick there. I don't know if it would, you know make them necessarily a better team on the ice and help their rebuilding. But I would certainly make them more relevant in the conversation. Patrick wellbeing. Man, if you're trying to get a new building and stir fans. Listen he likes to run the show. So you're going to bring Patrick is they're going to have to be willing to pay them, and they're going to have to be willing to allow him. The autonomy to be involved in a lot of different things. So we'll see if that anything comes to go to your, the tweets sat down the Greco hashtag game conduct and a couple of people Andrew mareo still kinda gravitating towards with J D being the president. Does this give the Rangers of better chance to get Erin? Well. It's hard to say I mean really the team that has the best chance to get Aaron is the place where he wants to go right? Yeah. Well, the Rangers have been rumored before. So I mean if he wants to come to New York, which is highly possible, I don't think the John. I don't think there's any like, you know, I think he's familiar with Davidson, so that's good. I think Davidson's familiar what, you know, the agent is looking for. So that's good some, you know, familiarity certainly helps but if the player is got a place that his mind that he'd like to go that I don't know if any of that matters. Now, the Rangers have some cap room. They have you know it's attractive place to play. Obviously certainly for someone like banana and who's already talked about the idea of maybe playing in a bigger market. So he played in Chicago to start starters career there's been some talk about, you know, the jolt one Ville connection in Florida would that be a place? I think that's more of a likely place for broths than Canarian. Are these? Is still tied to each other. I don't I don't necessarily think that's true. I think they've got to do both. I think find the best deals for for themselves and whatever market it is there are represented by the same guy now. So that. You know, that's part of the equation as well. That's the way of sports, right? Look. What's happening with the jets? Right. You find out that, that gay says the same agent as the quarterback and the quarterback has the same agent as who's rumored to be the next GM. It's like you. So that seems to be the way of the world now. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. So. But we'll see. I mean, again, I think that those connections to Panara and I don't think will hurt. I don't know if they help if the Rangers are going to be a suit or I don't know if there are any huge health, either, I think that your familiarity, but all the managers have already with the different agents, you know, and I'm have, you know, really good relationships with the different guys. So, but it seems like he's going to market. I think the Rangers are an attractive place and they have the wherewithal to make it happen. But it just depends upon if they want to celebrate that rebuild that stage or or they feel like they're comfortable moving, you know, two different pace. Chris wants to know what a second Stanley Cup championships cement. Patrice Berge Ron for a hall of Famer I think he's kind of he's a hall of Famer now but, you know, I think, yeah, I guess you wanna say would cement and sure I have a second Stanley Cup. I just think it sends such a really terrific player for such a long time. I mean you gotta go back to the two thousand three draft when he came into the league and what some concussion issues. Remember some pretty significant ones Williams. Here and he's just going on to have an unbelievable career. So, you know, for me, I would I see him as a hall of Famer now but certainly winning a second Stanley Cup would go a long way to moving him forward in that regard now, Brad has an interesting tweet because it was thrown out to me. I don't know if it was Brad or somebody else last week to give my mount Rushmore of hockey play by play announcers. And I couldn't come up with a fourth right eye. Doc Emmer to me, definitely I put Gary Thorne there because growing up devil fan. But also he called some big games when he SPN ABC had the, the rights, and I thought, he and Bill Clement made a great team. And there's a lot of fans that's still that's still resonates with them. And I put Bob Cole, you know, the longtime announcer him in Harry Neale were great doing hockey night in Canada. Any problem with those three anybody else would add? Or could you could you think of a fourth? I would absolutely have as my first guy, Dan Kelly Viggo. I mean, then Kelly to me and I mean I'm a little older than you. But that I missed. He was the voice of hockey in the US for for a bunch of years there in the in the seventies and eighties. And, and obviously prior to that in Saint Louis. So, you know, Dan, Kelly was, I mean like I said growing up when I grew up Dan Kelly was the guy. So I mean doc Emrick than it would be certainly. On that list. I don't really have a big problem with, with Gary Thorne or Bob Cole. I mean, there's been a lot of guys that are great. I mean, I think you'd have to consider, maybe for sure you it just because of the herreid at fall there before our time for sure. Yeah. Maybe not you, but definitely me. Johnny. But, you know, he is a legendary figure in play by play broadcasting and hockey night in Canada. So I mean a there's a number of guys who do a great job. I mean as I said to you many times, I think you do a terrific job called again. So, you know, and just keep getting better off. Thank you. And I I just felt uncomfortable giving like current announcers it kills a Kenny Kenny span. Tastic I've always been a big fan of John Wiedeman. I think he does a great job too. So anyway, Brett tweeted, would I consider Chuck Keeton, and do I have any good Chuck eight and stories? And as much as I really love the Carolina. Ron it bothered me that Chuck wasn't involved in it. And I really thought he was done dirty by what happened there in, in Carolina. But I I've said that, you know, while ago so we could forget that, but any good, Chuck ain't stories, other than the fact that John Forslund does an amazing impression of Chuck as which is great. Chuck Chuck, I've got a few but the one that I remember the most is for me was in the Nick you with my twins. And I spent a lot of time. They're trying to watch as much hockey as I could my ipad because, but unfortunately, you know, you got to have a real strong signal to watch otherwise, so I listened to a lot and the, the Oilers and, and Kirk Hanes were in Edmonton. So I was listening to the Chuck's call. So I just kind of text explained my situation, you know, hey I just had twins. And I'm listening to you and he immediately got back to me, wasn't even like after the game was like during play homos. Then it's tough for a guy that does games by himself, you know, in just so happy for me and anytime I went out there, he was the go-to interview, and I know he was the one that got inducted Sam Rosen. And just a couple of years ago because he's the guy that puts all that stuff together for the hall of fame, but my memories of Chuck E. As it announced just, just salt of the earth guy, always helpful, always fun to talk to, and it's really a shame. He couldn't have been a part of that hurricanes run this year. Yeah, and Trump is a terrific guy doing that broadcast all along. You know it's funny. You mentioned that game. I think I remember that game. They like Cam ward like still has. And, and got the reason. I remember it is that we, we don't we pick the games every day. Right. On the NHL, and that would be what we call the shootout. And there was eleven games on the schedule that day and I had gotten all ten right. Leading that game and I had. So I'm watching it intently that night. And I guess I think I must've liked the Oilers to win and Cam ward was the difference. I mean it made like fifty something saves of the game. And the Oilers ended up losing, we're we're canes on that particular night. But that's odd that, that would be the game that, that you were listening to on the reassess stuff. But Chuck guy, he's, he's been a great was a great broadcaster for a long time, and who knows maybe he'll turn up again somewhere else. I know he's still interested in doing it if the right opportunity comes on now about this just to show you that hockey and game is conduct can bring people together, at least from a friendship standpoint. Tom, Tom piece sports who always tweets about the Blackhawks got together at a Yankee game recently with Courtney, the ranger fan and they. Oh, yeah. And they went to a Yankee game and watch it together. So I don't know if something's going there. Air or whether they're just friends or you know. I don't know. I mean we can help that along, but they they they're they sit. They looked pretty cozy in the picture know all re tweet it for everybody right now, if you want to look at it, and that would be something if game is conduct were to lead to people getting together, maybe we can go the wedding, if it had downfall. I would hope that, that would be I would think an invitation would be a foregone conclusion. Yeah. Yeah. Almost think we should be in the wedding, when you think about it. I don't know how many friends Tom has or how big a party wants to put together, but come on. Or what about what about Courtney's friends bombing to be in the wedding amount? I don't want to be a bridesmaid. I. Okay. All right. Thanks. You do a lot better to be honest with you. Dave the goat cheese. Just Tom informed. If this is just a friendship, we won't push it. But, you know, if there's a chance for them we like to people do that. Listen, fred. We liked friendship. They're wrong with friendship. But if it would develop beyond that, you know, the it'd be like, just interesting to know about it just keep us invites all ask, and the whole thing may be named future children after us, that'd be lovely well, Courtney keep us informed. Ok more more to come. They're limited and they're going. I mean I just went to the game. Oh, I can just we'll find out believe me. They'll be a tweet tomorrow. Jay text me. I'll let you know forward all the information for sure, right? I will know the matchup by next Monday, Monday, actually starts game once I know you'll be traveling so you'll be in Boston. Can you carve out a little time for us Monday in Boston? I think I can okay. I will definitely figure it out. All right. Oaklawn buddy. I'll talk to you later. Got it. All right. That's the great EJ Radic NHL now. And of course, they'll be traveling for the Stanley follows. Well, so keep it tuned to the NHL network for everything EJ over the next couple of weeks is the Stanley Cup final will begin Monday from Boston. Either against the blues or the sharks either way, it will begin on in Boston on Monday, so no no game tonight. This would have been a game between the Bruins and hurricanes. But that's over. So tomorrow, we'll get you a nice preview for that game. Get a little information about that. Just get you get you started out for, for what is going to be a game six where the blues of a chance to go to the final of the first time since nineteen seventy and the sharks trying to force a game of back in San Jose on Wednesday on Thursday. So we'll see how it all works out back with again tomorrow. Thanks for everybody, tweeting, always great. If you wanna get in touch them easy way to do it at Donald brecca hashtag game has conduct talk to you game tomorrow. This is or this was the Monday edition of game his conduct. Listening to gain misconduct podcast. Looking for more dumb record? Hear him on the Michael case show, weekdays from three to seven PM on ninety eight point seven ESPN in New York and worldwide on the ESPN app. Don't forget to subscribe to the game misconduct podcast on the ESPN app. Google play music, apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Mike Church Show-The Cancelling Of Dr. Seuss Is A Pretty Good Indicator That Cancelling Christianity Is Next

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Mike Church Show-The Cancelling Of Dr. Seuss Is A Pretty Good Indicator That Cancelling Christianity Is Next

"Moments ago right now. Thirty three of the top fifty books on shammas on our dr seuss. I'd be surprised if anything like this earth has ever ever happened before. Up in hill emphasis. Mine what are people doing. your doctor. suess we'll by. Dr seuss has ever been printed you jerks ladies and gentlemen this is the textbook classic definition of and i know clasroom now since no one bothered to answer my question and it was a thrilling question at the end of last hour every single one. He be snoring and snoozing out there. What was the last major. You know what i better. a buddy. Listening on shortwave and nicaragua nosy answer t welcoming all. You're listening anywhere across all you. Human beings listening in across the universe on shortwave. Radio five eight to five zero kilohertz. Welcome in you. What was the last great. I kinda clasroom. And what were the effects whereas most people don't even know what in kind of classroom is. I'll have to explain it to you. John davidson and as this anti federalist dot com About bubba bubba. Where are you. I know it's in here cities. I know it's in here. Just it is. I know it's in here There we go all the way down at the bottom so pilots heavy today. The cancelation of dr seuss should disturb you. Because your next and he talks about that. This is a coming iconoclasm. So what was the last great iconoclasm. What was the result of it. This really is a great question And mid is o'connell who is not prone to throwing compliments my way early in the morning even when never heard that ever thought of it like that but yeah this will make eminent total sense to you people. What was the last great. Kinda class. Previous to dr seuss iconoclast. Let's go to our contestants and see anyone. If anyone has gotten the final crusade jeopardy question correct let us go to and let us go to allah conus in the chat room. Alec says is latin. Liturgy ooh very close ally conus. How much did you wager. ooh all of it. Sorry you're out let us now go. Foghorn leghorn says king dude. what is chick filet. I know close by that much so close and he. He wagered at all as well now even though she didn't give us an answer. Let's go to shannon. And see what that chick said and the answer is oh no salary size or you're all wrong now. Oh good answers. They're not iconoclasm. Mckanna classroom destroys icons physical visible tangible. Icons the last great. Like i say great terrible horrible. Iconoclasm was the aftermath of the second vatican council aiming duffy wrote a book about the sacking of the altars. This was during the time of henry. The eighth it happened again. Nineteen seventy two nine hundred sixty a to mid eighties. Maybe to nineteen ninety. The destruction was almost complete merely in the entire united states. If it was not a cathedral the bishop's didn't hang his hat there and was not a tourist place or a landmark that was a basilica every single altar. Rail was destroy. Communion rails destroyed high altar smashed with sledgehammers beautiful statues ronin burned crushed the vatican council's aftermath. What's the most horrific since the quote. Deformation close quote my impo sense. The sixteenth century and look at the destruction morally and inside catholicism catholic church and thus christianity as i say we got a lot of listeners almost half that are evangelical protestant denominations and we all respect one another and your point of view And then us when we talk about well. Do we do pray for you to convert most of you even of your Southern baptist which supposedly we southern baptists hate. Catholics shouldn't hate anyone dude and certainly shouldn't hate a catholic in any event understand. You do not want the catholic church to go the way of the edsel. It will not bear out well for the human race and that means the end is near because crisis pulled the plug on like all right second judgments coming you know what the iconoclasm after the second vatican council destroyed it went after the beauty that is the faith and the practice of it and brother andrea. Marie and i talked about it yesterday. The sacred artworks are making a massive comeback because the iconoclasm tried to destroy them. Look at these buildings that they built and called them. Catholic churches heck. I've got to go to a couple of them. Right here in mandeville louisiana his a beautiful beautiful basilica our lady of the lakes. One of the oldest buildings in his entire years built just after the war of northern aggression. Magnificent hundred seventy feet tall all the way to defeat giant belltower the whole the bells and whistled everything. You know what they did. During the iconoclasm they destroy the beautiful communion rail. They destroyed the pipe organ. They they mauled it to pieces. Melted it on the curb to be thrown away. They destroyed the high altar. Pulled it down with crowbars. He was almost like a mad orgy. A sex orgy. This was repeated and think that michael matt at the remnant actually has a film out about the iconoclasm and the gleeful joyful demonic destruction of the churches. And then what are. They put up in their place. These hideous churches in around that was an iconoclasm. What was the result. The sex revolution got a steroidal boost because the church went way go. Hey hands off. Pow church withdrew and was with drawing until somewhere around shortly after the big major pre scandal. At the turn of the century or the millennia and then something clicked and people went. Wait a minute wait. Wait wait wait wait. This is not the catholic church. It isn't this is some demonic perversion of catholicism and a church and it needs to stop many good men and many good women began working to restore the beauty day began with the faith and ultimately they made their way back because you had to find artisans and the holy ghost had to work to those artisan had to go. Yeah i want you to stop painting that porn and sculpting all that stuff that You know who wants to buy. And i want you to get back to making sacred art online asking. I'm telling the iconoclasm of the late sixties all the way through the mid eighties. That destroyed may attempted to destroy all of those beautiful look. There was a woman that was on this show. Jeremy if you're listening you know what i'm talking about. We tried to help her. We tried to save. What was the name. Church philadelphia saint. Oh gosh the people that were going into. Structures built in the eighteen seventies beautiful unbelievable beauty they wanted to turn it into an apartment complex and At laurentian saint lawrence and the fateful laurentians a group of maybe a hundred souls used to be seven eight thousand two thousand families in this parish. Jeremy and fish town they lost the iconoclasm came and took out saint lawrence. It's gone it's a flea market or an apartment complex now. Absolute sh- raggedy remember one of the One of the prisoners founded do that had a drone camera drone. A right before they were having the vote with the historical society of filthadelphia to try to get the water intervene. And tell the diocese. You can't destroy that building. It's historical monument. What did they do what they do. They flew that drone they fluid past a hundred and ten foot tall stained glass windows. That you need a scaffold to get to. The top of the show was there. They show up at the top of the bell tower. They did all that and it was too late. That's the iconoclasm. I've talking about showing john. Daniel davidson says dr seuss has been cancelled. Some of his work has been deemed racist. And he can't have that. We can't have that on tuesday the entity that oversees the estate of theodor geisel announce it would no longer publish six guys books because learn portraying people in ways that are hurtful and wrong among the works now deemed then. He gives the list of the works. There's not much point. And quibbling over whether these and other such illustrations into contend schuss books are in fact racist or bigoted or weather guys who held racist or xenophobic views by all accounts he was a liberal minded and tolerant man who hated nazis and his political cartoonist. Act the anti-semitism. That was all too common america during world war two but context and nuance don't factor into the antics. Arable logic of the woke lift. i see Our friend from mirror mike from restoring fate. Hang on a second bro. You're gonna wanna talk about this. What's important understand is that this isn't simply about banning six. Dr seuss books. All of geisel's work is in the judgment of left-wing academia and exercise in quote white supremacy paternalism conformity and it might be easy for conservatives to laugh that austin office nonsense but they shouldn't because this really isn't even about geisel. There's a predictable pattern to what we're seeing now. It's predictable because it has happened before much the same way it's happening now. During china's cultural revolution of the sixties and seventies the ccp at the direction of now call for the destruction of the four olds all customs old culture. Old habits old ideas. All of those don't have mouse socialist ideology so they had to be destroyed. This is another word and iconoclasm.

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Computers Interviewing Humans (Part 1)

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Computers Interviewing Humans (Part 1)

"Hi everyone this. Is john davidson from electric privacy information center. And you're listening to firewalls. Don't stop dragons. Hello everybody welcome back to firewalls. Don't stop dragons. I'm your host as always carry parker and this is episode. Two hundred eleven for march fifteenth. Twenty twenty one and as. I'm sure you've noticed. We now have taglines. Or at least i think that's what they call them You know that's like the classic thing like hey this is mick jagger and you're listening to rock one of four you know whatever rock one by the way is my favorite rock and roll station from fort wayne indiana where. I grew up I i don't even know what it's doing now but quick digression I actually had a chance to meet doc west who is the. He's been a fort wayne institution for years On classic rock radio station and actually knew somebody. It was my uncle brother. Who is the program director there. So i had a chance to go visit the station when i was a kid. And this is like you know gosh early high school or something. And i thought it was just the coolest thing anyway somehow or other. I managed to get together with Doc west at the thing and took a picture with him in my two daughters a picture that will treasurer They probably have no no idea who it was. But we got a chance to go in the radio studio and and see a foreign institution anyway. Long digression but back to the tagline thing so yeah decided you know when i want to start doing some bonus content for the patriots patriotic and some bonus questions which by the way there will be for this interview Also thought it'd be kinda cool to get some taglines. So i'll be sprinkling those around here and there and this would obviously is very appropriate. Because they we're talking to john davidson from epic. And but you know i'll i'll reuse these from time to time and i think i'm going to reach out to some of my past guests and see if i can get some taglines from them to and you know just a little fun into this so we're gonna be talking about what we call. Higher-tech h. i. R. e. t. h. technology for hiring people basically. And can you imagine applying for a job remotely via some video thing. But you're not even talking to a human you're talking to a computer and what they're basically claiming is that these automated systems that they've created with you know a i artificial intelligence. The buzzword of the day can evaluate these candidates for you and help you screen them for things like it out cognitive skills and communication abilities and even emotional intelligence. You wouldn't believe some of the things that are claiming they can do just by analyzing how people respond to given set of questions and as you might imagine you know anything automated in the sort of way could have built in biases or could just be flat out wrong and when people are trying to get a job this has serious consequences and as soon as you start automating things that you'd have to start thinking about well. Can this system be gamed. You know can will people figure out what the algorithms are and find ways to defeat them or make themselves look better than they really are by manipulating their the way they act to gain the system so anyway it's it's a whole new world when it comes to hiring and things like facial recognition and tools that watch facial expressions and listen to the way you speak and you know judge by where you're looking and how quickly respond and how often you say Or pause or you know. They're trying to automate ways to look at all these things and judge people by how they responded to questions so anyway. Fascinating and creepy all same time and so that is going to be the subject of our interview today. Part one We'll be broken up into as of normal as part you'll be next week but Let's get right to it. Let's get to our view with john davidson from the electronic privacy information center. John was senior counsel the electronic privacy information center or epic in washington. Dc where he's worked for a wide range of privacy consumer protection surveillance and open government cases. John's a baltimore native and it's worked at a journalist before landing the law. Thank you so much for coming on the show. Thanks so much carry. I think i think this is the first time i've had somebody from epic which was great. Have been. I wouldn't wanna talk to you guys. You guys are doing such great work. I've been wanting to reach out for a long time. I did talk to lancaster virg- which we've established you. Somebody you've worked with before but i think you're i like epic proper. You know so. You know that i've gotten to so. I'm happy to be a trailblazer a great. Yes i would hope. This is the first of a long string. But since it's gonna new why don't you want we start by explaining. What was that about You know how do they come to be. And what is your role. Epic short so epic is a public interest research center based in washington. Dc we were established in nineteen ninety four to focus public attention on emerging privacy and civil liberties issues and to protect privacy freedom of expression democratic values in the information age. of course. i'll in epic pursues these goals through a number of different avenues. We do policy work. we do public education litigation. Put out a number of publications and general advocacy. I am senior counsel on epic if done a variety of work in my time there have been there a little over four years now including open government litigation but more recently work on consumer protection and data privacy and data protection in in the private sector. Well those are all things that we love to talk about the show so particular. I ran across an article recently about higher tech and that's h. i. r. e. e. t. c. Kind of buzzword we'll which will get into in particular which was quoted because you've got some specific doing that area which will get to again shortly but let's start off what is what is higher tech. And then there's a particular company called higher view that you have been working with the right word that he'd been working on. Maybe what what do they do operate. And what does it claims that can do short so higher-tech generally i. I don't know if there's a single uniform definition but it refers to sort of suite of products used to screen job applicants based on our decision making or a higher view is one of the most prominent examples of this and i'll say up front. We don't know exactly how it operates and that is one of the problems that are going to get into in a moment here but The core of its technology is is open to the public. But i can walk you through the basic operation of the system. Certainly it's one of a number of ai hiring platforms that employers can contract with to help them jobs. Applicants others include shine. Yellow and harvard is the other one that comes to mind. There are others in the field but higher view i believe is the the biggest player in this market on these platforms vary a little bit in the details but higher views system consists of a mix of video based assessments and a game based assessments. So let's say that you are applying for a job at a company that uses higher view. Typically you'll be asked to set up a remote assessment You know you do on your own time. So this is one of the advertised benefits of the system. And it's going to be conducted automatically. You're not going to meet at least in the first instance a human being. You're going to be answering questions to a computer asking you questions while it's capturing video and audio through your computer so it'll ask questions that i think that there are. I should clarify. There are sort of out of the box prefab assessments that you can. If you're a company hiring higher view can use those or they also will do custom assessments and they can tailor those to what you say. The particular needs of the position that you're hiring for or or your company or so forth but the the common questions in those prefab assessments are ones that you would encounter in a job interview things like tell me about yourself. Why do you want to work here. When did you work is part of a team that failed or you know it's very familiar job interview type questions as you're answering. Those questions higher view is as i mentioned capturing video for your webcam and audio through your computer microphone and it is scanning data and analyzing it for detect. Certain things that it considers to be positive or negative indicators. We don't know we often don't know what those are because higher does not disclose all the factors that it considers these interviews and the system is largely opaque but we know it includes things like intonation am keywords vocabulary bodily movements and currently still facial movements. So that's that's the video based assessment and the other piece An different employers. Use a mixture of video game based assessments one of the other above but in game based assessment. You'll be asked to play through small puzzle games similar to what you might download on your phone that are supposed to their design supposedly to to measure your mental agility and boy. It's it's an interesting system and my understanding i. I don't think this is changed. This was the case as of a couple of years ago. Anyway is that there. It's a progressive system. Where you you start with a game and if you do well might Route you to a harder game if you don't do well it's going to send you sort of down the easier track. So that's a bit of a sorting mechanism at that stage already. Wow so okay. So you've got your your video maybe your game based assessments and then using these tools and the personal data that's extracting from these assessments higher view. Claims that can measure a really wide range of things things about a job applicant cognitive skills communication adaptability responsibility emotional intelligence psychological traits social attitude all sorts of and by the way. I'm not just. It's not just me. Making these terms up comes directly from higher views marketing materials. They make a lot of of pretty bold claims about what they can measure through the system and then based on that analysis it will produce an assessment score which is available to the company. that's using higher view services. It'll place the applicant in a tier. Sort of you know we. This is a very qualified applicant less qualified applicant. I don't know the exact terminology because i've ever backend. But that's the the rough configuration and from there. It's up to the person who's doing hiring whether to advance that applicant to reject that applicant or maybe even to hire the applicant outright based on that initial screening. And they can. We're told access the video of the candidates interview. Though i think i would imagine often especially companies that are hiring at scale. Those videos are never actually looked at for most candidates. The company is really just relying on that assessment that the system is cranked out so that is the basic workflow for higher view while and so obviously sets up a lot of the questions. We're going to get today. Which i knew it would so so in twenty twenty eight twenty nine hundred. You guys epoch. That is filed a complaint against her. You alleging that this system to assess candidates you know interviews constituted quote unquote unfair and deceptive trade practices Can you elaborate on that. And tell us what the status of that is. Yeah so a little legal background here. I'll try not to bore your listeners. Too much Federal law. And i i believe. The laws of every state prohibit businesses from engaging in unfair and deceptive trade practices and. These terms have a technical legal definitions. And i'm gonna. I'm gonna read one off to you because i think it's sort of important to get the flavor of that jerry. So for example under the federal trade commission act. that's the federal law governing unfair and deceptive trade practices. A practice is unfair if it quote causes or is likely to cause substantial injury injury to consumers which is not reasonably avoidable by consumers themselves and not outweighed by countervailing benefits to consumers or to competition. So that's a lot of jargon but the bottom line is that under. The ftc act accompany can't lie to consumers because that's deceptive and a can't course consumers into a situation that's going to be harmful to them especially if there is no demonstrable offsetting benefit to consumers. So that's that's the basic authority that we're working under epic files a lot of complaints with the ftc urging the commission to take action against companies that engage in unfair and deceptive practices with respect to privacy and personal data practices. So we've in the past gone. After a google a number of occasions. Facebook uber zoom airbnb for various practices. That we believe run fair deceptive when we learned about higher view a couple years ago it was immediately clear that certain of its practices fell under the heading of unfair deceptive so for example it's it's collecting huge amounts of personal data from job applicants whether the applicant really wants to have data collected or not right. It's retaining and processing that data and making determinations based on factors that are not divulged the applicants it's sorting applicants based on a system that hasn't been publicly validated. An importantly. i assume. We'll talk more about this. was falsely representing that doesn't use facial recognition and higher view has has some games with this in the past Trying to split hairs right and avoid admitting that it uses facial recognition. Because i think. I gather the company knows that that's a somewhat toxic term and could invite scrutiny. But what it's what it's publicly describes that is doing Analyzing facial data from applicants fits right under the ftc's definition official recognition. So that was that was sort of a dead to rights claim like they said they didn't use fisher wreck but they admitted a bit. It's all elements affects range so they actually changed. The actually changed their marketing literature. Or something in there in response to your suit right. I mean so. They dropped some of their claims or maybe altered some of their claims. He's maybe this is a splitting hairs thing. You're talking about As a result of your complaint correct so one minor clarification it's a complaint as opposed to a suit were not pursuing litigation against them in court. We're filings with the sec. They have you know. It's hard to identify a single cause for this because there's been a lot of public outcry around their use official recognition. But i i would certainly imagine. Our complaint played a role in this. They recently announced that they would halt using facial analysis in their interviews moving forward. This is a change. That's going to take effect over time. So they haven't immediately stopped using us. Especially i think. The custom built versions of their platform are going to continue using facial recognition for some time. But they are facing and out and that that's a big deal that's You know to see higher view respond to public pressure that way and you know i think also increasing skepticism and and amounts of legislation around facial recognition is probably enough to scare a company like higher view off unless a really sees a clear tangible benefit and using the technology and it seems like it didn't hear so it dropped that or is going to drop it over time however that doesn't quite solve the problem what they continue to say they'll continue to do is use voice analysis and analysis of bodily movements on screen so not facial recognition but but still using video and that those suffer from a lot of the same problems that facial recognition technology do in terms of being unreliable being prone to bias ablest in potato writes a concern that lydia exc- brown at the center for democracy and technology has spoken about a lot very very eloquently. These systems really place disabled persons at a great disadvantage. Because you know they rest on this idea that there is such a thing. As sort of a typical movement patterns typical behaviors typical modes communication and by definition disabled persons are going to move and behave and communicate turning typical so So that's so. They've made a big change but it's not a doesn't solve many problems with their system and this actually The southern us we talked about recently with electronic frontier foundation on this show and that is at my daughters. Both in college right now are with covid are having to at least one of them. One of my daughters particular has to install one of these really intrusive. You know special proctoring browsers when she takes tests and with some with similar sorts of technology where they're trying to is she looking off to the side like perhaps down at a phone to cheat or is there someone else in the room or even in cl- i've heard that some some cases in classes in these remote classes they want to know are people paying attention. Are they looking actually in the camera or are they look like they're doing something else and they're being rolled out. I think could drink downs a particular in a lot. More places it'd be and it's really super creepy carry. It's so interesting that you brought that up because that's been one of the projects has been working on. the past. Couple of months is around. Remote test proctoring systems and we actually filed a complaint with the attorney general. So the the state level attorney general in dc against Five of the major online test proctoring firms highlighting a lot of the same types of unfair and deceptive and unlawful practices that we had previously highlighted in higher complaint And and they're it's it's you know higher view in that situation you know. Maybe maybe there's an argument in some circumstances that if you don't want to be subjected to a screening while you could just apply to the next job instead of appointed this firm. I think that's not always a great argument because often lots of large employers in the same field. Yeah use this technology. So there's i think there's not always realistic opportunity to opt out but in an educational setting. There's really no opportunity to opt out you can't you can't. You're not gonna you know forgo your tuition for the semester. Because you don't like the fact that an instructor is using Oreo or proctor you. So you're you're stuck using that technology and it's just it's tough luck for you. So i think all of the same concerns that we've raised higher-tech setting are are magnified in educational setting and we're talking about. Does it really struck me that. I've got asked so do these companies and we'll stick with harvey in this case Do they do they save the state. I'm like let's say i. It's a small world when like so as an engineer. let's say i'm interviewing at several. High tech companies. Put job facebook apple whatever. Let's say high-tech actually con contracts with both of these places and they share data golic. We've seen this guy before. I mean maybe i'm sure that particular company they can't give you the video because that would be you know somewhat proprietor got to it. But can they say yeah. We've not this system today. But this we've got the sky in the system this person guy and they've interviewed through our technology. Before and we have records do they. Do they do that to compile a dossier on you and then second. I've got to ask whenever you're talking about data do they. They selling it out the back door for any other purposes. So i it's a good question. I honestly don't know whether these companies are building dossiers that operate across multiple employers. And i i would guess generally not just because of the potential legal regulatory problems that could create But i don't know. I don't know that for a fact i mean know i just i. I honestly don't know what what higher view. Yeah how collates. The data that collects and as far as selling to third parties I have to check higher. privacy policy. Might guesses they represent that they don't do that. That is often. I mean that that's obviously important that they not do that. That is often something that companies like higher view will point to as evidence that they take your privacy seriously and it's it is a piece of an effective privacy framework but if you are still exploiting and using personal data for the benefit of your clients or even a particular client and retaining that data to sort of Develop your algorithm this a lot of privacy harm that's happening at that stage and it's not just a question of whether your data is also being sold to third parties so i confess i don't know off the top of my head but i would guess that higher view to stunt actually do that. Well they may not make it public by just know that. If there's one thing. I find that when whenever we started digging privacy's use of data it's he's companies loved to double and triple dip on this stuff they it's like it's our capital society in their shareholders are pushing them to make more and more money in and we're if you're sitting all of data and of course they'll claim that they de identify it in some way or aggregated. Those are all for other. You know giving us other opportunities to work around a privacy policy to still milk your data for money so yeah and and certainly to the extent that higher view is using interview after interview to refine its model and that data is being baked into the algorithm than it is certainly exploiting your data in that way and using it for commercial gain to sell its product to other companies that but when he is tiring services yes so so in that sense absolutely. I don't know whether they whether hive you specifically double dips triple also sell data to other other companies but Nothing more we'll say okay. So higher view actually went to the trouble of conducting a third party audit of their system. I think i don't know if this is where some of the things that are not aren't baby. Just kinda good practice where they want it you know look we got this independent third party and according to them. Which is the big caveat. They said that the this oughta came back and backed up a lot of the claims. I guess the efficacy of their of their product or their techniques. So first of all you know what what actually did this audit fine and second. Can we trust that the autumn the audit was legitimate or not biased. A lot of times these companies are hire. Somebody they're paying the bills a lot of time. The results tend to be rosy yes so a sort of answering questions in reverse The the audit was conducted by a firm called orca. And it's it's run by kathy o'neil who is the author of weapons of mass math host. Interesting she fantastic author and advocate. Yeah and has If you haven't read weapons of mass destruction. I recommend it to your listeners. Came out i think seventeen. So they're pretty trustworthy. Affirm i have no reason to doubt the integrity of their audits. The concern with that audit. There's a few of them is that it's it's quite narrow and it was rolled out in a way that suggested it was it was a more sweeping and sort of the momentous finding that i think i think so first of all just to run down some of the concerns with us it was only looking at prebuilt. Assessments used in early career. Candidates used for early career candidates and it did not apply to custom assessments which represents a pretty significant afire views businesses. We understand it. It was not a comprehensive on it of higher views use of algorithms generally and the the audit specifically mentioned that the case that was audited was not necessarily common or representative of high of us business overall. So there's a lot of limitations on the scope of this audit what what the audit found what it says it found anyway is that It did not find any indications of bias in these these pre built assessments are the specific class of pre built assessments. And i'll read a passage so it says the top line. Finding was the assessments work as advertised with regard to fairness and bias issues or did not find any operational risks with respect to clients using them and it looked at potential score gaps between demographic groups and did not identify any so in this very narrow subset of higher views pre built assessments. It did not find by issues but it. It goes on to mention that it did not look at things like other protected. Classes including and this is key disability status because that is one of the primary concerns around these technologies that they discriminate persons with disabilities so it and that's a limitation of the audit. Because that information is not necessarily collected typically during job application process so sure so wasn't able to audit that aspect of it and it also when it talked about measures that higher view can take to ensure the integrity of algorithms it said basically took higher view at its word that it was implementing these reforms And i understand. Certainly that is again. A limit of an audit like this company structures that way. But i would not necessarily take if you had it right. Yeah that's that's the the reader that audit it was interesting it. These third party audits by reputable auditing firms are certainly something that companies should be doing and should be legally required But it is not something that this particular audit did not fill me with confidence because it was also released at the exact same time that higher view dropped facial recognition from its system to me signals. That there may have been a broader audit conducted or separate audit conducted or growing concerns within the company that this fisher recognition component of its technology really was deeply problematic and was not functioning the way it was advertised and was prone to bias and so forth right so i wouldn't wouldn't hang my hat on that audit. Yeah and and that's something that i think that's a good point to bring up And you kind of alluded to here and with a lot of these third party. I totally agree. It's a great that they're doing. I kind of wish that they were maybe again lucy. This was more of a legal requirement that they should. They don't get to choose. Who does who does it or how it's done in this case obviously did both. But there's other things like what audits didn't they share right exactly exactly and actually mentioned something. That's quite remarkable about this which is higher view published this audit and a press release talking about the change to its platform with facial analysis it may be audit available to the public. But it made you go through. Its website filling your contact information and certify that you are not going to share the autumn else so so any anyone can go and get it but you journalists can't disseminate it I can't share it on ethics website or anything like that which to me is a red flag for how confident they are about the scope of that audit and and you know what what it really says about their technology interesting okay. So is debbie date on. How prevalent this higher you know. Technology is today. Like i'm sure it's on the rise. Whatever it is now but you know how how often it's being used an even more so we have details on. Is it prevalent in some industries worse than others. It sounds like maybe i actually. I don't know if it's used in new grads New hires more than it is for experienced. Hires what data. If any do we have on this. So i'm i'm not market expert but i did read an analysis that said that in two thousand nineteen a hiring was a five hundred eighty million dollar industry. So it's big. We're not talking about a niche industry. By all accounts it is on the rise and in was on the rise before covert and has certainly been on the rise during covid. Yeah that because companies are not doing in person interviewing my impression. And i also don't have hard data on this but but based on the clients that we know us. Higher view is that it's technology that appeals to large employers who hire at scale So companies that are going to be screening hundreds of applicants for water a few jobs Rather than you know. Small employers that are able to more easily conduct hiring process with less manpower so I i don't know sectorally like what what industries it's more prevalent than than others. But i do think it's. It's something that Is is especially common in large employers and probably with entry level jobs where there may be less less attention to the individual qualifications of candidates. Now while we're here. I wanna ask you questions. If you're probably perp position to to know this. I think it's important for people to understand this because i think a lot of this stuff is not well understood. But obviously you're doing this my guess. Is you lasca slater. But you know this is being done. You know you're being recorded and you know you know these roughly that how this is operating but today that there's a lot of other sources of data out there because you know in our capital society. We've got crap tons of a date hunt people. What other sources of data are hiring copies using input for screening candidates. It depends on the state but Because state laws vary on on what employers can use but they can certainly require your consent in many cases to obtain a credit check or conduct background check before they can move forward the hiring process that could easily review your social media accounts now There have been reports of employers or prospective employers asking for passwords to me. God really yes. I mean i. I don't think that's common but it has happened. So it's it's a scary practice. Yeah they can use online reputation services so not not full background checks but services that are just scanning for your web presence and of course all of these types of data sources raise privacy and fairness concerns just like on just like a higher view screening technology so so even even if you set aside that he obeys greeting there are a lot of unsettling ways that employers can try to find information about you well and i guess to the degree to which some of that is automated as creepy. But i i mean as i did at heart you know back when i worked at cisco and nortel and loose and other places i guess maybe nortel social media wasn't thing back then but You know certainly. When i did a lot hiring for cisco i mean a lot of campus stuff. In one of the first things i would do in prefer anything was going to go find their social media accounts and you know a lot of cases. You know there'd be it'd be pretty tame or every once in a while you run across the case that's a out like you know where people have you know two different accounts they got there. Might you know. Hopefully you would find another one that they kind of keep the friends only and Yeah so it's just kinda thing today. But i bet i'm sure that a lot of the same higher-tech is being used to automate a lot of those processes as well you've probably online reputation services to and all the things that staffing up that data. Absolutely that's i. I will confess. I'm not an expert in those technologies for the most part but but i i'm certainly is being deployed knowledge context. Yeah so in. Here's and here's the flipside of that. Of course as soon as we start getting to automated stuff in its there's gaming that system. So i read in the washington post and prep for this. That technology is becoming so pervasive. That schools like universities. You know as part of their. You know hiring programs help you find. Jobs are actually training. The job seekers to quote how to look and feel for how to look and speak for best results unquote. So can these systems be gamed. Do we know that you know. It seems like that's the flip side of this coin. Every time and little tease we will break and pick up again here next week. And you know some of the things. We're gonna talk about next week. Are you know trying to play a little devil's advocate. I mean is it humans. Humans aren't great at hiring either You know humans get tired. Humans have biases humans have bad days The prejudices You know are there any upsides to try to use a computer to screen candidates. You know what what is the ideal use of something like this. If i'm a huge company. I've got a potentially screen. Hundreds of candidates you know. Is there value to this. So we'll take a look at both sides of this. We'll talk about that next week after These couple interviews well of course have a new show and obviously never a shortage of things to talk about but I'll kind of catch you up on this microsoft exchange. Aca told you about it last week but man it's it is just the gift that keeps on giving it's been exploited it's a free for all Because it's there are so many of these microsoft exchange servers out there and these bugs are so bad even though the it departments all know about these things it's hard to big company to apply upgrades sometimes and so the bad guys are just flooding the system trying to hack these places you know quickly as possible before these things get patched so it's it's horrible. I mean man after solar winds. This is this baby. Even this could be even bigger even have more impacts. It's crazy so we'll talk about that in several other things also Just got in the mail from europe. A signed copy of a book called privacy. Power by chris elise And she is really sharp on really love this book. I'm going to be doing a book review on that. I'll talk a little bit more about it here. Probably look more for my blog. 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The present moment Action Hero mindset: Positive mind, Positive Outcome

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The present moment Action Hero mindset: Positive mind, Positive Outcome

"To moscow over media podcast. I want to first of all. Thank all the great listeners So sharers fellow podcasters and the great audience. That's all over the world Not a lot of great People in india sharing our show and Helping us get more internationally Also have people in the uk as well as Africa so wanna think all you great listeners as well as our listeners in the us of a. in canada and mexico. Over here in north america You know. I wanna thank you as well as we continue to reach people. Globally that are seeking inspirational. podcasts on himself. Help sips or just on. Something listened to while they drive to do their work on this. We've put us on while you are at your desk and you know. Have a son in the background. Or if you're driving. This pop is on to pop us on scenes or spotify iheart radio on so many different places you could reach us and we're definitely looking to expand to more yet You know our goal today is to provide high-quality podcast episode. 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Check out the website. Massgov enterprise dot com on me just put on a couple of case studies on there and You can see a case for google or instagram or or whatnot and We definitely have it popping. So i just wanted to thank the school enterprises at all the mother loving people that provide the support for their And if you do need visual marketing. Seo ppc social media coasting or anything really Even doing pr and verification for aegean twitter and facebook. someone's looking for that And they haven't had any luck I can help guy. Direct people getting their first. -cation is well because we know Everything is about quality but when people see numbers and they see that blue sack mark it automatically makes some trust an account or whatnot. So you're providing that service for the people Yet again today. This show was about some providing positively and really using your mind to to direct that. That's why we call it. The present moment action hero mindset. I love my positive outcome. 'cause when you are using your minds power for yourself rather than that. It's the radically be used. You can use your visionary Activies been and power as the human longest planet It's really recreate your life As you see it and I've dived into this at Actress dita workshop there the sky to What the bleep do we know to accurate totally power. Now there's just so many types of mediums and people trying to help people stand is that we can start creating a better world. Yes one day at a time and personnel time. That's why we're just so lucky to have the great. John davis who is an international keynote speaker and he's also a comedian A fight director stuntman house. Professor and artistic director as well as action hero traveled extensively throughout the world speaking to audiences of all ages and backgrounds in twenty eight countries and over. Four thousand locker. Reforms is gone as far as that in recent maximum potential and awaken your interaction hero after tragic tragic events of september eleven. Two thousand and one. John dedicated great amount of time. Bring entertainment so the soldiers overseas on. Us old sores. John performed more than one hundred. Just shows that has taken is comedy to even the most remote basis in both iraq and afghanistan so as as these men and women protect us. Orlando over here. We have john going over there where they're at the health. Bring them some entertainment and on positivity and that's what we're doing on this podcast so if you know anybody that needs that is definitely a time sharing with them about that. Yesterday we have the great. John davis on his show. Are you there John lew john. I would john's having a little bit of a quasi what is skype. Maybe maybe on you wanna call in into nine one four five five six six four number John is not is not uh not hearing him online. But that's okay things happen Every day as we try to make things happen when john because of their their years on his cellphone. If i'm not mistaken. John are you there i am. I don't know what was happening. I had you on my On my computer. I can hear you. You couldn't hear me yeah. I'm not sure does that sometimes. Lost talk radio on. Luckily we have the backlog of being able to call in Yeah it's a really great honor to have on the show. He's done extensive amount of work in entertainment and Through through your comedy and different things that you do and really going to places that not many of us can really get to so. I just wanted to thank you for all that. Great work that you put in thus far. Oh thank you so. It's the least i could do for the soldiers in the field especially because they volunteer their lives. Go anywhere to defend us. And it's the least. I could do to go out there and get smile for day. Yeah definitely definitely. And i'm sure it's very very well. Appreciated on yes for the soldiers. Not over there. And those battling everyday over here in america and lose john davidson and and What are you bringing to the table that you know people may not be realizing budgets reading your bio Well i was when i was young man. I wanted to be a stuntman of the fight director. And i sort of working my way to that direction i started going from black belt martial arts and i started really building my muscles up and then one day a buddy of mine called me up and said hey. Can you help me unload my van. And i said sure i went out there and i. He had a boxer box loads of clay. He was a professional potter. And i went out to his house and i picked up that first box of clay up inside that i turned out of the van and my spine split into. I was paralyzed war. Yeah and doctor told me that. There's no way you're going to be a stunt man. There's no way you're gonna be a fight director. You're done and while i was flying in that hospital bed somebody gave me a book called the dow jikun go by bruce lee which seemed like a really kind of cruel joke to play on the martial artists exist. Never do it again But it was one of the greatest things that ever happened to me because that book talked to told me about two things. One mental flexibility and to leveraging your present mom and so over the course of the next year and a half. I slowly started just flexing the muscles in my body and by at a year i was back to being what i would consider normal but not back to where i was and then had a year and six months i was standing on top of a three story tower and i jumped off and landed in a fall pad and then i went on to do over. Four thousand live. Comedy sword fighting shows all over the world as you said including the front directive game is dan and it that whole process. I put together. This thing called the five protocols and what they are is is the process of hacking the fighter flavors clients and leveraging your present moments so that you can create amazing outcomes and so now. That's what i traveled around teaching as a keynote speaker. I go into corporations and they get their their team's interaction. heroes ignited and moving towards positive outcomes. Awesome and make it out of that situation You know from trying to help a friend and getting your spine swith. that's Definitely an amazing thing to make it through Me myself I'm just a recently suffering from a hernia operation and I was helping different family members and friends with either moving or or other things like that and not really taking houston my body and i actually now feel way more. Lucky 'cause it could have been a lot worse yet knowing that you made it through through. That is definitely Inspiring calms you know. They told they told me that. I had a condition spina bifida culture and When he said that. I say taste. Because i already meant and and and the interesting thing was that that Three of my vertebrae never performed properly at birth. So i been doing all this stuff work and everything already with this condition. I had no idea and that extra weight. And the twisting. That day is what separated my lower back and The doctors one of the fused my back and fusing my back with them they would have been dependent. It which meant the part of my spine wouldn't have been flexible. And could not do high roles if i if if i even could get my middle mobility again because My leg didn't work for thirty days. And so you know. I literally didn't have mobility. They didn't know whether i was ever gonna be able to walk again and it literally was by by by dropping into your present moment. now Something i heard you say in your in your opening which i thought was very. Apropos is The concept of you know my spiritual beliefs. I'm a my my background My mom was a devout catholic and had massive debate liturgy. But when i turned eighteen. She said you know spirituality personal journey you need to go out and discover which you believe instead of what i'm telling you believe so i started studying everything i've found that the amazing works in all sorts of spiritual traditions. Like huda says what you think you become you create your world. Gandhi says you must be. The change was seeing the world. Christmas said you are the culmination of your fought. And jesus said whatever you asking. God's name as granted but moses said god's name was i am and if i am is your present moment experience and it's your present thought about your experience so i had to leverage my present moment into into a very positive direction. I could not take the belief that their doctors are trying to give me. I could not take the belief of my family's trying to get me. I had to take my own creative belief and leverage it to my present moment and say no matter what you say. I'm going to be a stunt man. I'm going to be a flight director. I'm gonna do the things that i that i have set my goals on and anytime some obstacle came up. I just literally pushed it aside because it was just something. I needed to address to get to my goal because i reach goals anymore. And that's very powerful and not always easy to do For people How were you able to recognize the voice in your head as a positive force rather than something that was negative and trying to pull you down. Like what was the difference between voice and i guess Like a hater voice. That is a fantastic question. And i and. I've never had anybody asked that question before. And it's a very interesting thing because the voice your head is your subconscious belief subconscious mind and if you have a bunch of subconscious belief in there that is negative. You're literally living in a in a Groundhog day scenario of living negative experience. Over and over again. Because your subconscious mind is designed to show you what it believes and the things the way you change your subconscious belief is is literally to get truly in your present moment because your subconscious belief is based upon present moment memories so basically behind us a series of present moment memories that that build the subconscious belief. So in your past you may have had a very hard father. Had father was an alcoholic. Abuser and i had the sense that down and create new president believes because he told me what it worked. This guy was and so. I had to literally train my subconscious. Mind to be different now the way the way that works. Is you consciously only focus on doing successful moments because trust is developed by results over time. Same with your subconscious. Mind your subconscious mind will only give you a positive trusting sponsors when you stack the positive examples of present moment so is back there and just every time anything came into my head. I didn't learn anything negative. We said to me even in my own mind on somebody's subconscious mind said nope i doing this and i went back to that present moment of i am going to be starting. I am today. I'm going to flex the upper back muscles today. I'm going to flex my mid back muscles today. I'm gonna hit my lower back muscles and then the day that i was able to match my hips. Doctors were blown away and for it literally. What leveraging the present moment and not letting anything that does subconsciously getting or so truly amazing because so many people Think that they're you know working towards this type of bowl but they're not even really listening to the right part of their their conscious. Their minds Sometimes you know voice gets two extra loud in might not be the right voice to listen to. That's why i like the kind of delve into that. And and trying to understand that aspect a more jad that tad that if what you're hearing is negative then it's definitely not the right voice you guys if you're creating positive. Outcome narrowly focused on a positive thing. There's something else we just said. Just a second ago is you know were they all. They're trying to get to these places. They're trying to get to these places. Well when you when you break it down into into psychology and look at the way the brain actually works. You only can think do and say something in the present moment. You can't do anything yesterday and you can't do anything the more you can only do it right now and a lot of people sit in this moment. They look at that goal that they've set for themselves a giant outcome that they want and they in their mind. They're thinking i have to struggle to get to it. A lot of people believe that struggle equals growth. But the thing is we don't have to get to that thing thing because that's thing you're never gonna get to the future. The future is coming to us depending on what you do in your present moment so rather than thinking thinking magically appear in your moment think about. I can do the small things here. That are in alignment with that goal. And that's what brings that goal to my present moment so that i can experience it. It's a very different way of thinking about goal setting but you have to realize that it literally is only way it works and your brain because you have to do the things here that bring it to you because the future is someplace that is never reached right Right basically doing the work 'cause we're because we literally are always in the present moment whether we are thinking that way or not We haven't gotten ability to try and time travel in the future past so it would reckon osorio. It'd be smart of to take heat of the moment that we do have control over and then you got a very important thing of basically breaking down the goals into smaller tidbits so they could be more achievable and get you a little more believable as we break them down every day and do take small steps. Kind of like what. You did almost as super amazing Actually and broke down the vet stores getting the movement in your body. You did it step by that waters I was gonna say what are some good ways to set goals and and break them down Yet i feel like basically you just chose the kinda just turn them into smaller. Smaller goals That that we what kind of what you do. Absolutely if you're setting a goal for yourself And like i said the future as a place where you set goals for feature present moment so if you're spending a goal for that for that experience then you have to sort of reverse engineer and say okay. I'm going to build this thing in my future. I've got a. I start with foundation when bruce lee wrote that book that i told you about He was in traction in the hospital and had just been told he'd never do martial arts again and he said okay. Now i've got a. I've got you know worked my way back from that situation. So what did he do. He wrote a book about his foundational principles of martial arts. Right his his philosophies so basically when you're when you're looking at your giant go just like building a house you've got to break it down backwards. You know the houses and built by starting at the roof. It's sort of foundation so you start putting things in place in the present moment that that will hold up everything else that you wanna do that. We'll give it to support the needs so break it down to the smallest moments. But here's the one of the things i do wanna mention. You said something about believability. And you know i don't believe in affirmations i believe in declarations and the difference is this you know there's a lot of people in the new age world will tell you the affirmation so if you're overweight and you wanna be spin that used to say i am a thin person. I'm a stem person. But you can say that and still look down not see your shoes right so you. It's hard to believe it. It's hard to believe that you're in prison when you're not and and the reality of it is is that you can sit in this present moment and you can't believe i am eating better. I am walking extra quarter mile today. I m getting healthier every day. Those are things you can believe because they are. They are choices that you're most making about your present moment but you can't look down and not so your shoes it's obstructing your view your stomach so you've got to break it down to the smallest little foundational things and just declare you know it in the in star wars. Yoda says do not the reason. No try right. Yeah you have to ensure that you're actively doing and not trying like wh words like wanting meeting hoping and trying just saying that your present moment is inactive and you know you're going to create one two meeting hoping and trying of those things are terrible you wanna create positively with your words and looks your present moment where it's especially and your present moment. Statements definitely definitely And overall is the better way to feel I'm not sure how people go about their days in total negatively. And how they feel about it but to me it's not a good feeling to make it simple It can create disease or other things in the body and Why not take an advantage and use your minds as a tool in your own arsenal belt and Control it's always what you really actually desire Because it is hard to sometimes believe what we don't see yet Times the faith. The faith aspect is what actually brings it to fruition and In studying yeah in studying different religions and spiritual beliefs overtime like you. I've realized you know they all come down to very very similar stories if not Foundational rules If they just happened to be in different areas of the world helping different units of humans be better people on this planet And you were able to do that. Kind of on your own Would you say that. You're like a spiritual person now or you still catholic or ono i i i. I don't follow any religion whatsoever. I i use what. I call simple spirituality where i find universal truths and everything i read. I constantly read bristle texts all the time. I've i've i've gone through the koran. Many times the bible. Make times the bug of getting many times buckingham route many times. And i just go through and i studied study because i i think that that is you can find the correlations in all of it i think the concept that one religion can encompass all the truth is is a fallacy. Because i think it's too broad for anyone religion to encompass all and so. I think that you have to go and look everybody's discoveries all over the world and say what did they discover. Oh look they discovered this and they discovered this and they discovered this. that must have some liberty. it's like just like a scientist approach to spirituality. And when i look at like. I said buddha's saying what you think you become and and you know jesus said well. Jesus said well. You know whatever you're asking guy's name is granted. In god's name was i am. That's that's fine. what are you. that's a beginning. Thought and that thought is is creative but a lot of times. We'll give ourselves a lot of self talk. that is not a follow up with beliefs. And you've got up at the belief bind together you know. Shakespeare in hamlet king. Claudius says words without thoughts never to heaven go and if you're not putting your your beliefs behind you declarations and your actions then you'll never create it in your experience they'll never go to heaven and become the creation that you're trying to do now you said something about negative people. Have you ever noticed that. Negative people always have something to be negative about your because the check the. Check this out so we talked about the subconscious. Mind a little bit right here. There's some conscious mind has two functions wants to be the storehouse for subconscious belief and to you achieve what you focus on and so if you if you know anybody who's ever bought a car and they chose the kind of car that they liked or or there's a certain kind of car those people start to see that kind of car everywhere. It's just kinda such popping up into their experience right. And the reason is is because when you consciously choose your subconscious mind shows a negative. People seem negative things because they are consciously choosing negatively. And you could consciously choose positively positive people when you talk to them. They always have something to be bothered about the same exact reason. No i couldn't. I couldn't take with that. Doctor said about me. Never being a stuntman or fight director as a belief because it was it wasn't on the line but what i was creating and so by changing my creation to take control of my creation. You know i. I've mentioned a couple of times that's easier said what are we asking. God's name is grant. it's a great quote but the better quote. The one is the next sentence and most people don't realize the next sentence is nothing will be impossible for you and you know i'm living proof i'm living i'm living. I literally i. When i got out of that hospital bed i went on to do all those shows. I'll tell you. What else did. I became a college professor and became an artistic director. I climbed outside. I climb much and went to the pyramids of giza was inside the blue lagoons of iceland. I have traveled to thirty countries around the world. I have Worked with movie stars. I have been on fire jumped off towers. I anything i to that created to my experience. Because of the fact that i knew i could and that i it was my mental process. That took me to those places. And if you're willing to to just break down to this present moment you know in the bible it says Be born again. That means shutting off your subconscious belief. That's all that means means turnoff subconscious belief behind you and start new with a fresh slate right and starting to just start today. What happens is more you stack positive moments into your subconscious. Mind your subconscious mind because positive and successful right because that's all the an and starts to know or whatnot right one way that. Yeah one way that i Started to practice this and kind of exercise. my mind and power is For some you know you mentioned when you get a car or something. You started noticing it more But sometimes people may not be able to get in your car but we're colors are often associated with certain things like red is associated with like love many times and green is associated with like money White is usually associated with pureness and black is usually Associated with negatively yes I realized one day As i was driving. I was noticing. Cernan car colors more than others Usually like red. Or so. And i was questioning. What was i thinking or doing. That was making me feet more. These these you know colors associated with different feelings and emotions or whatnot and I started to pick up on on myself. Being able to kind of see what i wanted to see because i was kind of controlling my mind to be more positive So i was paying. I was driving. I was noticing. More red cars or white cars been than other colors and It may sound a little bit out there. But it's a good way to start practicing and exercising your mind sues food succeed positively and what you wanna see and greatness even though any color can be anything and associated anything It was kinda like what society knows. as a norm But there's definitely you know between having a positive mindset is not always that easy especially when person has been through a lot of traumatic events. That's why i always suggest that. I'm getting help from professional doctors and Eat listening to people like john while you drive or work and stuff like that And just stay positive Is it seems like you had an advantage of not believing the negativity in your mind but what are some ways that you were able to kind of like force your mind to think positive. I know you read that book. And i help Was it just kind of like Cold turkey like a push on because you wanted it so whatever or Well of course you have your your your your inner fire. The thing that sparks your purpose things you wanna do. But i had to do a real deep dive and study and into how my brain works to get myself to a place of being able to really truly understand and what i did start doing was started creating the five s which is the how to hack that fight or flight response and what's really interesting is is The first of the five ss fearlessness and people Don't realize when you're in a negative state just because you're afraid of something there's a fear there you know you're afraid there's going to be bad your you decided the world is terrible. So you kind of you know. It's a fear and the interesting thing is when people get into a negative state. They don't feel like they can breeze and they don't understand that lack of being able to take a deep breath is not because of the fact that they don't have enough air because their body is in the primal reaction known as a fighter response and their body is holding here in not not keeping it out because when you get into parental fight or flight response. The first thing that happens is your buddy goes guests for air guess for air and when gasp for air it fills your lungs up so that you can run further and faster. Actors in hollywood are trained that when They forget all their lines on stage. They're supposed to exhale and relax their muscles and what happens is it shuts off that primal response and all their lines rush right back into their head and so i had to when somebody was from negative i had to exhale get to that space. Okay no and then. I had to do the realization of what is fear. Now when i ask people audiences all over the world what is fear. The audience go quiet and then somebody will usually say false evidence appearing real and the reality of it is that that's not a true definition of fear because here's an emotional reaction to some future events that may or may not happen with focus on the negative outcome and so it's you just focusing negatively and if you've focused negatively you're going to be creating more negative so i had to get to the space for me where i had to take control of my fear now when you when you realize you're interfere. You realized first of all that you are in a fear and when you're inside something you really can't control direction so the first thing you really have to do is label as fear. It is fear what i'm afraid of once. You label it you. You're no longer inside of it is now external and now you have an external so now you can go okay. It doesn't really exist in my present moment. Because i'm focused on a future event negatively. So if it doesn't really exist in your present moment it's just an emotional reaction to something that might happen then. Really there's no sense that actually waste any more time on it It's and then the second of my five absence focus so if you get to the point where you can go exhale and get to that space. Then just gets focused on the goal and cast. That fears cy. He just focused on what you're doing. Get fearlessly focused right the middle middle five of the five ss space believe confidence. I'd only spiritual faith. But some people get their their confidence from this face. And that's fine because everybody's spirituals experiences a personal journey and so however they want to get through that but the key is that you have to believe what you're saying you know When when jesus was would work with the the lepers they would say you. He'll be says it was your faith. But he'll do. It was your confidence your beliefs in the healing that he'll do and so to me that was one of the most powerful statements he ever said he also said greater works than i have done you will do with. I think really interesting But then she got really focus with faith and then we get to the hard won the toughest one of them all and that is follow through. You actually have to do it just to get off the couch and do something and the reality of it is is that you don't have to do the big thing. You only have to do the small things and let them stack up. And when one of those moments doesn't go the way plan you know you you don't you don't beat yourself up y'all i'm so dumb. You smack yourself and top of the head technically. That's why i went balls but The reality of it is that not that you're you're you're wasting a moment when you start breeding yourself up. Just think it's silly and get back on track and start sacking more present moments right. And then the last of the my. This is is flexibility and so when we started talking about mental flexibility Whenever you're going for goals something is always gonna come up to the contrary to what you're trying to do. And in those moments you could be like grizzly and be like water. You can be flexible. You can move around that rock. You can move through that rock you but the keys is flexibility. And we've already talked about the idea that your subconscious mind is showing you what you're focusing on. So if you're focused on the giant goal in something popped up in front of you because your subconscious mind saying this is something needs to be addressed through to reach your goal. It's not that you're his. It's not saying your goal is done. It's not spending your goals and stop saying this is something that needs to be addressed and so if you can stay flexible in that mind that keeping your eye on your goal and realized this is something needs to be dealt with then happens is those things. Don't seem as daunting or as as frustrating when they happen. Because you just not part of the process and you keep moving. And then the next thing you know you're experiencing the present moment when i stood on that tower after a year and a half and i looked down on the tower. It wasn't a scary moment at all. It was it was a a celebration of what i had just done over the past year and a half. 'cause i was i was literally getting ready to jump off a fault dead three stories dow's and you know when you're on top of that tower. You're not focused on the power. You're focused on where you're gonna land your focus on the positive outcome and stay focused on the positive outcome. No matter what comes your way then you can achieve anything you like. Nothing will be impossible for you while. Wow that's amazing whereas in and put so precisely Simply for anybody really start to get a hand on and I wish we could have you here all day. Drop in gems. 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516: New York Rangers Get Fined $250K; A New Rival Tour Believes it Can Compete with the PGA

The Steve Warne Project - Sports

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516: New York Rangers Get Fined $250K; A New Rival Tour Believes it Can Compete with the PGA

"The steve worn projects sports. And whatever okay welcome to the show. It's the only. Podcast churning daily tales of sports and whatever. It is the end of another podcast week and very pleased to be here as always steve along with jimmy muck ended up in the corners. Shoes in an app james. How're things are pretty good. Stevie how about you. I'm great thank. You just just leap. Okay steve are you good. Good slumber on a legend in the sleeping department. I think it was. You know three decades of morning radio. My sleep deficit is such that Well if you need me to sleep. I can get it on for about five minutes. Beauty beauty it is my number one thinks. Tv if you change anything in your life today. Okay what what would it be. You know. I don't want cash while i do love getting cash but i would be. I just want to sleep eight hours. I'd love to go the full eight once in my life stevie. Yeah so. I'm trying different things. Okay my mother told me trick where you just flip around and you put your head where your feet normally are and and then your feet are up in your pillow. You identified terrible idea. Because i did that. And now i have athletes face putting my head down with my multi feed tongue. You got toenail fungus on your face my chin. Itchy now steve spree my face with cases of athlete's foot fungus active right john madden cameo. Today's heads up for friday may seventh. It'll be cloudy. A forty percent. Chance of showers in the afternoon today. A high of twelve. The blue jays are at houston for a friday this sunday series with the astros as the senators there in winnipeg on saturday nights facing the jets for the one hundred time. 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Fine lot of people were thinking he should be getting ten games thrown out of the league or something like that and you get a five thousand dollar fine of the rangers. Basically went to the nhl with a statement said we demand george perez the head of player safety. We demand he get fired effectively. I'm paraphrasing on that And then that night or that afternoon. I should say john davidson. Get fired by the rangers president. Jeff gordon got fired as gm saying what is next and then they have a big brawl in wednesday night's game and Something like seven or eight fights within the first four minutes of the game so today the latest and this thing keeps on rolling and by the way mark messier also chimed in saying. I don't think the rangers and nearly tough enough and love a job with the rangers again. Rier phrasing it's the latest today. Is that the rangers have been fine by the nhl for two hundred fifty thousand dollars. You're calling out. George perez saying he's unfit to handle the role as the head of dobbs. Crazy yeah know. Think of the five grand i. It's ironic it. It's totally ironic here. That no no we're gonna defend perils. Okay you you can't do that. Can he's going to keep his job because of the five thousand dollar fine he gave doctor. But you just made a quote okay. You made a quote and it's gonna cost you you quoted or whatever we call the rangers Put out this statement okay. That's a quarter of a million dollars. Stevie that penalty that they would have been better. Steve they would have been better John davidson to go into the league. Office grab gary bettman by the hair. Throw down on the floor and punch him in the head. A bunch of times will cost. Only five grant would have got away with five g stephen. That's what i would take over little bald headed guy there a assistant. Okay slew stevie okay. Slow them and when he's not looking punch him in the back of the freaking head is only five. Jeez that's the brewers eight steve. Absolutely the precedent is there. It's their own precedent. Yes they said it. you know. that's what i would have done. It does seem at a whack. I mean the everything with the nfl right now particularly with this story as it continues to evolve is out of whack and then there's also how do you handle pavel buchnevich. He's the guy that was getting worked over by tom. Wilson initially that Started this whole ball rolling and so in the wednesday night game and we talked about this last episode. The end Anthony mantha of the capitals. Were having words. And you'll matt. This guy can drop them and bush average not so much but bush was being just as obnoxious mantha was it was fifty fifty and then You could see mantis or tapa. Say hey let's go. Let's go and bush never should have enough and and circled back around and crosscheck mantha right in the face. So he's got a he's got a hearing now with the nhl with the aforementioned george perez. I'm like okay. How's this going to play out as perez going to handle this. Because normally i would say that's a six to ten game offense for bush knezevic cutlass. But how does george perros make this call. How does he look this kid in the eye after he totally endorsed tom. Wilson mashing his head into the ice. Right so i mean there's a lot of things at play here and i and i do understand this. You know first of all. It's no sweat off. New york's back right. They're not gonna make the playoffs so now you're into this thing. Oh yeah you're tough right. You're tough 'cause to buchnevich. is everything. Bush bush yes sir. I got a name right. Oh my god that you well. It was so long since. I heard it remember seconds ago. So there's a lot in play right so perils for sure perils only suspends that guy or gives me a only gives wilson five grand because of their you know their their playoff situation right got to be had to have a lot to do with it so now that comes into play when when you're when video sent in or the league is calling for a meeting with the guy you gotta look at it so it gets kind of complicated and and i guess i understand that i'll tell you you gotta think back stevie when we interviewed marty mcsorley. Okay and marty's play. He kind of he kind of invented. The idea okay. So if marty was playing and he was a new york ranger and wilson did that to one of his teammates okay. Which would she did that to Bush never than the other guy. That he comes out he hurts. So our tammy baharan. Yeah panara so of marty was on perrine and president. Bush never team. He would walk over to the bench. Okay of the of the washington capitals any would point out somebody else besides wilson right and play was. You're gonna get hurt now because of what your teammate did. And it's brilliant. It's brilliant right. Think about that. Now when wilson goes out there now. Okay and does this again. His teammates are going. That's fucking brilliant. Dude that's really brilliant. Okay now he's going to get cross-checked the is right so that's in play to right. So bush said no problem okay. I'm taking someone now. Okay i'm not gonna fight wilson. No problem okay. We'll do it this way right so now you've got this whole dynamic going. We'll we'll start to systematically start to pluck off one guy a time off your bench. You know i mean. I remember i remember marty mcsorley saying that exact same. I mean. i can vouch for you on that. Because he was on this expendable and said that very thing and and it shut things down but it's also it's also twenty years ago. I wonder how much that still happens today. I i will say this. I do think that the could chuck brothers do a little of that particularly matthew. I've seen it in games this year. Where brady could chuck is being obnoxious. To some calgary flames game And then all the sudden matthew could shock. He doesn't wanna fight his brother. They made a vow to their mom. And so it. Matthew could chuck does doesn't go after brady. He goes after just random. Ottawa senators teammate. So he went over and started giving it to connor brown in a game where brady was running amok a little bit so That would be the only time. I've seen something close to that but it's hard to know whether that conversation actually occurs. I think it's an interesting way of doing it right because You know there's no real advantage. You know joe. Blow is running around the goon for that other team. He's running around. Why go after joe blow. He's just the goon. He's a tough guy. When i go after the other team star and say to that guy. I'm coming for you star. If joe blow doesn't tone it down. Yeah it's like you are driving. We're on a trip stevie. Okay you're driving. I'm in the passenger seat and we're on this road trip. Why do i see you. Mooning all the cars as we passed them in this equation. Okay but you're but you're like an obnoxious driver. Okay your your tailgating. Guys on the 401 one and you're cutting them off and stuff like that right and you give them guy's finger because they held you up in the left hand lane and all that shit right and then what happens is a guy tells you to pull over. Okay got the road rage going here right and go no problem. No problem go see what are you doing. I don't know what jimmy. So you pull over this guy gets out of the car stevie and i'm gonna get your face filled warrant. Okay but no. He comes to the passenger side. Unrolls my wheel and punches me in the head right right. I'm going stevie. Will you stop driving that way. Okay no. You're the tom wilson of drivers right. It's a great idea. It's a great idea right. In this example. I honestly think i would be okay with that. You know if. I have a choice between me getting why you. So as we get back to buchnevich if you're george perez today what he doing thrown the book at him even a five thousand dollar fine like what's your call. What is george perez going to do today. I mean first of all before you get there. Stevie i go to the league okay. So let's look at two hundred and fifty grand because these guys made a public statement derogatory statement towards the league office. Okay i would go to the league offices. Go get it. I get it. No one's gonna they're gonna look at that today and go. Hey boys okay shut your trap okay and that will be a deterrent for sure. Steve that that will that will stop that. There's no doubt about it right. The the the years wrapping up here right the regular schedules wrapping up and a lot of teams may wanna wanna weigh in on some shit refereeing and and maybe perils and all that stuff. Maybe they wanted to comment. They're not going to now steve okay. At least i'm not okay because it's going to cost me a quarter million bucks right. Yeah it's pricey for sure so back to the question. What does bush niche get. When it's george perros handing down the punishment. Is there a suspension. Is it a long suspension. Is it five thousand bucks. Well i don't know. If george can win i like well. He's supposed to get a few games there. Stevie right yeah i would. I mean you know what i mean. It's not grant over import cross-checked and right in the bridge of the nose right so he's got to get a few games right with two games. Five games. I don't know but right around there. I guess that's what i would think but i honestly think what bush navid. Anthony mantha was worse than with tom. Wilson did just in terms of the potential for damage based on just analyzing the video and watching it from every angle. I would much rather be butchnevich yet. In the business from tom wilson than be mantha. Who got the business from buchnevich disagree because you said you said yesterday with the wilson thing you were and i thought it was was relevant. You said that could have been someone dying correct but not about that. That was about the pinera in part of the story. Well what about. But wilson so yeah. I'm not tired. I i don't know i don't know you know he. He may try and get it back on. Track until i got a whip. The guy with three games got a hammer the three games or you know or he might stevie go. I got an idea. It doesn't affect them. I can whack him hard okay. He doesn't get to play the rest of the season. How many games. They have left three or four. Something right. so he's he's maybe suspended for the rest of the year. And everyone's going well of course you did. Okay they're not in the fucking playoffs. So maybe he fakes having covert or a heart attack or something and just takes a couple of weeks off going to quarantine can't do this one. Sorry right right right. So i don't know what what is it. Three games five ten deal. But there's not ten kms left. I can't predict what the nhl will do. Honestly i i all i can say is what i think and then i thought that that was a really really ugly crosscheck. Take your crosscheck and like you're skating at the guy and the guy escaping expecting. Maybe you know contact or maybe dropped the gloves. This guy did not stop. He came in and cross. Check the guy right in the face you know on on the shoulder not anywhere and to me. That's just way over the line and i. I'm sorry just me. I'm talking from my perspective. I'm sore that the guy didn't get any kind of pound of flesh from george barrows in the tom wilson. I'm sorry for that but that doesn't excuse what you did. What what was what was really impressive onto that stevie okay. If that's your i okay. You know you're gonna get ripped there for about seventy stitches. You're gonna get can cost and you're quitting the game. Can i shot a math on the bench okay. I didn't see a mark on the guy's face pulls his helmet off rubs his nose a little bit pulls on his nose like he just came out of the out of a lake or pool. Swimming sorta shakes it off a bit right. Whips his helmet back. I'm gonna holy god. Is that guy tough right. You know he was. The head of krypton sounds believable. But it may in this suspension perils going to look at it and go learn. He's not hurt. You didn't hurt ya. It always plays in. It probably shouldn't but it always does so. That's enough ranger talk. We've been a lot in the last part of it's gonna turn this thing off now on they will turn it off the m- the might have turned it off with all that mom talk in the first segment but not not this pretty hot story anyway. 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Walton gave you the big snooker announcement the other day right correct the world championships over and mark selby said he's from from london. Okay i'm gonna i can. I can get away with anything here. Steve okay because no one's going to correct me on this whammo glenn wall jimmy mark selby. Not from london right. He's from lanchester. Somebody's called the gesture from la chester. Whatever that'd be. Lester lester lest oldster gesture from leicester rhymes yeah. Something like that. Okay let's from leicester ya anyway. Walton was on it like a shot. Knock it off jimi. So anyway now you say that. I wonder why he's a big liverpool fan when he's from leicester city is that's a pretty good side but some good seasons last few years and we loves soccer and loves golf as well. And that's what we're gonna talk about here and there's a big super league of golf. We had that super league soccer crash and burn spectacularly and they're going to try and do the same thing in golf. Apparently it's been around for a while. And is this rebel tour. That is extremely deep pockets. And apparently they're trying to lure all the big pga stars over to their league. Only the top forty eight players in the world would be invited but golfers could play their way in every year via a soccer style system of promotion relegation using the pga tour as the lower league. I'm sure the pga tour would be thrilled about being a minor league anyway. I guess there's big money behind it. The pga tour is at least cognizant of it. They're they're aware of what's going on and seems like they're making moves to maybe counter the possibility but for now doesn't sound the players very interested. The things started they started floating. The idea like seven years ago in twenty fourteen or fifteen that that some guys were approached about tiger woods was approached about back then Rory mcilroy is is the most outspoken guy against it. Okay he saying absolutely not okay and he said it again this week that he wasn't going to do it. They first contacted me back in twenty fourteen so this is seven years on the line on. Nothing has really changed. The maybe the source. The money's changed or the people there in charge of but nothing has happened. No sponsorship deals. No media deals no players of signed up. No manufactures of signed up. It's been through so many rations at this point. And i think people go to what happened last week in europe with the european super league in football people can see it for what it is which is which is a money. Grab which is fine. If that's what you're playing gulf war is to make as much money as possible totally fine. then you know. go and do that. If that's what makes you happy. But i think the top players in the game you know. I'm just speaking on my own personal personal beliefs. Like i'm playing this game to try to to cement my place in history and my legacy and to win major championships in to win the biggest tournaments in the world. I mean that's why i'm planning this scam. Golf has been very good to me. Obviously over the years by playing in europe starting off coming over to the pga tour and playing here. And you know. I honestly don't think there's a better structure and police engulf. And i don't think there will be you know you have. The you know the strategic partnership as well between europe and the pga tour and not only going to strengthen the structure of golf going forward as well in terms of scheduling on all sorts of other stuff and working together a little bit more. So yeah i mean. I don't think it was a coincidence. That you then use kimmel yesterday just as you know where you know. The pga tour is having their annual player meeting and jay's addressing the membership so yeah i mean. I think y'all know my feelings on it. And i'm i'm very much against it and i don't see why you know i don't see why anyone would be for so there's pg star rory mcilroy obviously not for this new super league at all to me steve so the pga is the most successful things going on the pga tour. Okay it's hugely popular. We're you know even non golfers are into it. They know about the masters in over the. Us stuff like that right there you know. It's got a huge following okay. I don't know if they're if their fan base is dropping the viewership dropping. It might be but but it's here to stay steady okay. It's a great tour. okay. I it it to me. It's the most unnecessary thing you know that i've heard of in a long time in sports is like when you hear that stevie as a fan and you're a fan of golf to do you look at them. Go there we go. Oh man there we go now. We're now we're onto something right. What what this guy is doing what he's offering is what is there now. You know what. I mean so what we're going to get the top players all the players on the pga. Tour right yeah. I don't think any of this own compete with the majors. But it could certainly compete with the rank and file events where your your top forty only a percentage of them compete in the rankin father and i think about the pga tour. You know we were talking about this. An episode about a month ago. This new thing that the. Pj's going to give a forty million dollar bonus pool of cash to their top ten guys based on non-performance like how. How do you perform a google. Search right all right right. So maybe this kind of clamoring. Why they doing that and tried to come up with some ideas. And i think some of them are good. Some of the moment but this this may be a a byproduct of this new tour that they're trying to say okay. If money's moving the needle for all these guys than Here's a bunch of money to keep the elite of the elite the ones that really matter to the gulf fans to keep them happy on the pga tour right I in fact that was mentioned. One of the pieces. I said that is strictly to combat this movement. Afoot here to get this new tour So when you look at it on the surface go well that you know. That's there's not enough there for me. St there's not enough mayor there. I love the tour. i love them. Now i'm in the low percentage of rabid fans of the of watching golf. But here's the kicker stevie okay apparently the backers for it is saudi mommy money okay of some fund that has got three hundred and fifty billion in it. Okay billion stevie okay and. That's one of the partners of of this dude. This other guy who's who's going to run it. They go to phil mickelson now. I okay. who's now on the senior tour. Stevie okay but he's a big draw for offense so they're going well. No one's going to do this. Roy says no. I won't do i think. Justin thomas may be spoke out against it too and they go well. How about this phil. We're going to give you a hundred million. i'm not. I'm not making that number up stevie to come and play on our tour okay so now all the guys who were saying it the note we got to be loyal to the pga. You know the old arnold palmer thinks you know. You're no one's bigger than golf if you know you wouldn't be around here any golfer if it wasn't for the pga tour Right and and now they're going to. You gotta stay loyal right. We got we make good money and they go okay. So if you have a good year phil you're gonna make five six seven million bucks. Okay you can make ten million. They come along stephen go. How about the guaranteed hyundai. It's probably. I don't know if it's ten years he's got to commit to or something you know he's gonna he's obviously you have to leave the tour and the and the pga has come out and said if you guys do this. You're you're going to might be a lifetime ban right from the tour so lots. Lots still has to happen with this things to you. But i still think it's unnecessary. It's not gonna change anything for me as a fan. How about you know. I don't think so. I think it's a. I mean i honestly i like i said earlier. I think it could be because of the money involved. And if they got the top. Forty guys You know it might. It might almost be like a instead of the four majors. It's the fifth sixth seventh. Eighth majors on this other tour. Whatever with the kind of money either chuck and around out there and the quality if they could get all those than i thought i'd start taking notice of it i'm not so in love with the pga brand that. I wouldn't watch an event that had all the best playing for insane money that might old some interest for me. But i just don't see it coming together particularly if there's not a a complete in but you know like i always say money talks. Follow the money and it could potentially work. Yeah what they should do what they should do. The pg get together with these guys. You don't see you got someone steps up and starts to throw the money around that they're talking about find the commissioner of the pga tour. Hey let's get a meeting here. Let's help each other. You know that maybe they can. You got your four majors but maybe they can do three events a year or four events a year and half whoever they want to do it to the pga would be interested in that like it just feels like that you know the old boys club and say you know if we want to put three or four ten more events on than than we'll make that happen on our own. The fear for the pga tour of is obvious right that everyone's replaceable. Stevie okay everything and everyone is replaceable. Okay so the. Pga tour is replaceable. now they're starting to come out and say you know tossing around this big money. The obvious fear of the of the tour is not that you're going to take away dustin That's big dustin johnson. Justin thomas or you know the new kids coming on Caller mark our. These guys. that are coming in. They're they're obviously going to get the lesser known. Steve on the pga tour. Okay they're going to be in a second guys will come along because they're gonna get a million bucks or something right guaranteed what the pga tour is really going. How about if they you know what if they you know eviscerate us with forty players right right that that everyone jumps in. So if i'm the pga tour To to you know how. How are we going to de escalate this. I'm getting on the phone. That guy look at maybe. There's something really big. We can do here really big right right. If you got three hundred and fifty billion you have access to. Let's let's work something out. Yeah everybody's got a price tag all the guys on the tour now. I'm sure there's some loyalty there but the number for everybody will eventually get to a a high enough point where they literally can't say no. Because sounds like this phil phil mickelson thing was just so absurd. Like if there's more that out there absolutely they can go and get the top forty guys. And i think that they would all have the same kind of rider in whatever contract. I'm to like. Yeah but i'm still playing in the majors. I still want the masters jackson and all that stuff so apparently they're saying they're not going to touch that their events would be around that but think of it as a fan. Steve is gonna make a difference. You sitting in your living room flipping on a golf tournament to watch it for the weekend and this happens to be the super league tournament. You know it's going to be the same bunch of the same guys. Hope you know the the other problem with the super league. Steve is unless they get the top forty right. They got no chance they got no chance. Agree if you turn it on and going okay. Well here's matthew wolf. oh yeah okay. and a bunch of these other names. That aren't good. You're gonna words might. Pga tour yeah. Okay so yeah. I think it's a case of it won't be dramatically different than what we have with the fedex cup which which. I'm probably starting to embrace more than i did. At the very start because tradition takes time year after year. It happens happens. Initially i didn't care at all now. I care a little but still not that much and so it'll be a little like that out of the gate even if you get the top forty. Even if they're playing for big money it's still something so unfamiliar lacking in tradition. That i think it will be kind of a tough sell in the early on. But if it's if they stick with it and get some tradition going get the ball rolling could change the face of golf but we time will tell you. Gotta do steve you. Don't they gotta do what monaghan. Wherever's the commissioner of the pga okay gotta go over it. They got to jump on a plane. Get into the office of the guy from saudi arabia. Who's back in the money okay. He's got all the door. Put him in a headlock. Steve throw them on the ground and punching in the face. A bunch of that's the theme of the weeks. Yes sir bettman gets an bill. Daley gets gag. It's all right. There's a good place to end ended on a laugh and have a great week. Everybody as we head out the door a reminder that if you're enjoying the show and the fact that we're doing at each and every weekday who freaking does that it'd be fantastic. Viewed sport the show the patriot membership. Jimmy needs his smokes. Shout out of the start of an upcoming show on and hang with us in a member recording that we will do. Try do those once. A month and Various membership levels as low as the cost of single pipe once for a month. Just click on patriotic memberships. At steve w project dot com and with. 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Dave Ramsey vs EXP Realty. What We Know So Far...

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46:23 min | 4 months ago

Dave Ramsey vs EXP Realty. What We Know So Far...

"Believe it or not, in the early nineties. The tech giant that we know is Apple was in a complete nosedive but an unlikely Duo Steve Jobs and Johnny I've combined their powers to transform the company and the world from wondery and all new season of Secret Sauce. Breaks down. How this Apple computer Odd, Couple reached, the Pinnacle of silicon Valley's success. Listen to secret sauce on Apple podcast off Amazon music, or listen one week early and add free by joining wondering Plus in the wond'ry app, welcome to real estate coaching radio starring award-winning, real estate coaches. And number one, international bestselling authors, Tim and Julie Harris, this is the number one daily radio show for realtors looking for an OBS authentic real long time. Coaching experience what's really working in today's market had a generate more leads, make more money and have more time for what you love in your life and now your hosts damage. Lee Harris. 321 and we're back. Julie. Welcome back to real estate coaching radio indeed and happy Friday. Yeah, happy Friday, indeed. And to you as well. So I want to start out. We're going to actually get to our points today wage. See unlike yesterday, where you just wouldn't stop talking. So we're going to talk a little bit about this article. Again, we don't normally talk about articles, we like to present to you guys actual content, but this dog was kind of worth pursuing and then we only spend a few minutes on this, but it is fascinating and this Ramsay versus exp and then in men kind of run flee refers to Ramsey company is a coaching company, which it's not. It's basically for the sake of the ELP program. It's a lead selling company. We again, we talked about this yesterday but anyway, in man comes around there, you know, figures the soldier out there, writing this article. It's basically what we talked to you guys about yesterday. There's no real new information as far as the who's in the what's in the wise. But I will tell you what really is surprising to me. As I read this article wage, That Dave Ramsey and I already knew this obviously but they just summarily said we're not doing business with the XP agents any more. Not exp did not have any sort of Enterprise corporate level relationship with Dave Ramsey. Dave basically decided to just sort of get rid of his his I'm sorry, his exp agents no matter how well they've been performing as an ELP and this, obviously, it just seems to be really bizarre. I mean, why would he just summarily get rid of all the EXP agents that are even the most successful in this e l p program? If his whole point of his e l p program is to provide the best service for His Radio listeners in his book purchasers and all the people that follow us advice, I mean ultimately when you and it's fascinating again as you read this article, especially the comments on em and it's really fascinating how far out of Integrity. A lot of agents are perceiving Dave Ramsey to be especially when it's routed back to his Christian values that he definitely leads with wage. And again, if you haven't read this article, definitely read it's called Ramsay versus exp. But I'll tell you, the real punch line here is there's, it looks like there was only a couple of hundred maybe maybe three hundred maximum exp agents off of the ELP program, you know, 57,000 exp agent. So this really is just barely a blip on the radar. But really, I enjoyed reading and I was I was honestly proud of all the agents that were, the agents are interviewed and it was Agents from all different brokerages as agents from all different brands. It wasn't just a bunch of exp ages piling on trying to defend exp, wasn't even mad at all. What I really liked was them, were the, ugh, the comments? I mean, reading, I'm just perusing this now, Julie hasn't read this article yet, but, you know, Matt Thompson and Cheryl and John Davidson and, and all these other people they were all basically saying, well, that's what you get for buying leads in essence. I mean they were saying at that harshly but the reality of it is is they are all talking about the fact that you know buying leads is ultimately going to lead to your to your doom because boom all of a sudden birth Or rug is pulled out from underneath you just like what is happening to, you know what, Dave Ramsey's now doing, two, evidently to a handful of really in the scheme of things, exp agents. And I think that really, I, the Dodge Journey that makes me proud. And optimistic, is that there's this many agents now that have come around to the realization and a meaningful way that buying leads, is really an asinine Pursuit. If you're really trying to trying to build a law, a real business, really, and buying leads. And from Dave Ramsey is buying leads. Well, this is a cautionary tale at the end of the day. Exactly. I mean, this is a very clear demonstration of the possibility of the rules being changed and you're out. That's it, it's not up to you. There was no letter sent out. There was no email sent out. There was no by the way, were changing the rules on you, it just happened. And this is not something that can be isolated to Ramsey any of those online lead buying platforms can and have done that, right? And and this is again, this is a very public display validating, really in a lot of ways and wage. Again, very public way. What you and I basically talked about every single day on this podcast, if you're in our book and everything, we've always done in our entire careers and let's just be really clear about this because people loved and hole and take Julie. Hi out of context. We are not against buying leads necessarily we're not against branding and marketing necessarily, but having those, as your primary spokes on your lead generation wheel is really, really dumb. And and that's really the bottom line. There's no why why try to be nice about it. If you're not, if your primary Spokes and your lead generation wheel are proactive aren't beige proactively generation. You're going to suffer the same fate of other agents who basically are beholding to having, you know, mama bird constantly shove worms down their beaks and so Julie, before we get to our points for the new listeners, cuz we have tens of thousands of people, listen to our podcast, you know, sometimes applied Castle, get 50,000 listens in a day, and we're in listen to, and 61 different countries. And I we have to never allow ourselves to be complacent. Remembering that we have a lot of new agents list started, a new agents. But new agents to us. Yes. So when I say spokes in the wheel, can you explain that analogy? Absolutely. And I'm glad you brought that up because this is a perceived spoke in the wheel spokes in the wheel. Think about a bicycle wheel, right? You're putting together your new bike and you decide, you know, you put together bikes before. So you can put a wheel together and you've got most of the parts but really you've only got five spokes, right? So you're going down the road. You've got two spokes in your wheel. You hit a bump, a pothole Iraq. You wipe out, right? So your spokes in the wheel in real estate, are your different Avenues of lead generation. Let's say instead you were very careful about putting your bike together and you had about seven or eight spokes. In other words, everything that came in the box that makes your bike able to go over any Rock, any pothole at any speed off, then you go over rock, you don't even feel it, you don't feel the bump, you don't feel a change in the market, you don't feel anything like that. So you need multiple spokes in your wheel and I'm going to demonstrate this with a call. I just got off with Chris in Chicago. One of our great coaching members Chris. And I went over as we do with all of our coaching clients the sources of business, right? Every quarter, where did your deals come from as a coach? I'm looking for multiple sources off to make sure that you're not at risk of being a one spoke. Wonder source is often times the best ones are the ones that overlay each other. Yeah, when we have people that join that will join our coaching program. Generally speaking will ask you guys, why you joined our college program? Where did you hear about us? It's very rarely, one reason. It's, I've been listening to him for years and the podcast. I bought their book. I listen to their book last week, you know, somebody in your coaching program, a lot of reasons and they overlap, you know, that's almost and that's how people are going to ultimately make decisions to do business with you as well. So just keep that in mind. Yes. So for example, and Chris is on track this year. He's averaging two to three transactions per month. Like clockwork has three that are coming up in pending and three active listings, very predictable, okay? Because Chris has become a proactively generator, his sources are past clients centers of influence wage. Withdrawn expired and for sale by owners, and then he's got a smattering of investor deal. So let me have her there. So that is how we would. Now, some of you will come to our coaching program and we wage will essentially reprioritize which spokes we help you build on your wheel first. But did you notice that all of the spokes were the common elements of all the spokes Julie just rattled off their. All proactive, in other words, you're going to generate new lead yourself off after you learn the skill to do it and to none of those sources cost you any money. So when you basically when you follow Julie, nice coaching program, you're going to learn how to generate your own leads based on your own skill. Said you're not going to have to be beholden to some more on that decides to pull the rug from underneath your feet. And no, I'm not calling Dave Ramsey, I'm more, I'm actually a fan and we also we, oftentimes tell agents to read his books cuz you know, fundamentally is off. Device is great. And so didn't mean to me and her. But the point was is that the end of the day you have to have spokes on your wheel, the first spokes you should put on your wheel are going to be the proactively generation ones. There's a home Generation by generation. I mean, almost twenty years without really realistically, fourteen years agents had been learning to do things in the wrong order because there's been such a massive influx of money back into the industry and its money and investors and different companies whose sole purpose is to sell agents leads, then just sell crms are supporting the age least attracted to it, right? And the agent said she had who have come into the business really, since about 2008 have not been exposed to the reality. The harsh realities of never learning how to be a proactively generator. So when you're thinking of your spokes in the wheel, listen to what they said though, when you were describing building a wheel, I have never bought a bike ride had to build a wheel. Was that? It was in the book? Yeah. But I'm just saying, I mean, you're like, describing some sort of a key putting your spokes together, some sort of, a few steps of a Kia situation, right? I mean, exactly well, but so, here's the point. So Chris is an example of somebody who has actively built multiples books in his. Well, why is that important? Because maybe today, there are dead, Firestick. All right and he's still fine because he has been systematically prospecting past. Clients and centers of influence, maybe tomorrow. He doesn't get any repeater referral business but he's got three expired to go after you see and so bounces out totally. And if your business, let's say it's not built around the prescribed spokes that you and I will suggest. Now again, just to be clear, we want you to do the proactively generations folks first, cuz you can control those off. And then if you choose to, then you can add some of the passively Generation stuff. But what you'll discover is that ninety-nine percent of the time, after you've gotten good, not even great at the proactive lead generation. Hey, I'm never going to buy business, you're going to laugh when somebody calls you trying to sell you a lead. And that's what and unfortunately, I know that there's some agents that are, that are hurt because of the CLP thing, which again is I think either one spoke wonders, or mini spoke wonders, right? And so, when something like that holds on you, one smoke wonder if your only source of business was waiting around for Dave Ramsey, ELP program to flip you a lead. You are needlessly suffering wrong. If you're secondary spoke with some other sort of paid lead generation thing. Now, you're basically going to have to wait to see if that one's going to fail as well versus the agents that have been coached by Julie. And I and our organization home to actually learn how to be proactively generators. Then your business is not beholden to somebody else's whims and changes in policy. Some erroneous reasons for deciding to get rid of you. Your business is dependent on your ability to drill down stay focused. And that is what we teach you how to do and our coaching program. Because ultimately, you want to be independent of being dependent, your goal is to be free. And to be free choice, you cannot be dependent on someone else selling your business. A lot of you, hundreds of your joining our coaching program. If you're interested in joining the coaching program, you've made it very simple for you. It's an incredibly affordable coaching program. Just text Thord success, to 4737 to text the word success to 47372. And when you do, you can learn how you can join our coaching program starting at as little as $100 a month. So text the word 6 a.m. Us at 47372 and will text you back a link and you can just basically go directly to our website and you can read about the different coaching programs that we offer. The one that all of you should be joining urgently is Packer coaching. And here's what you're going to experience. When you join Premier coaching, essentially the most clear path forward for you. There's no ambiguity. There's no try this. There's no idea of the month. There's no, let's talk about Facebook marketing. There's no. Let's worry about how to do spend, exactly. There's no, let's worry about how to make you really good at making videos for YouTube or making you a YouTube influencer. Nope, dog. Training you to do the actual work of real estate so you can start doing having consistent numbers of listings, like Chris and Chicago and all of our other thousands of coaching clients and consistent results. In consistent income, wage are teaching you how to be real business owners who essentially make real profit and that is essentially the heart and soul of what we teach you guys to do. And by the way, the thing that you lead with is the the wage Mindset of being of service to other people. When you had that prominent mindset, I'm going to be of service to other people. Then what's going to happen is you're going to naturally want to backfill that with a high level skill set so that you can actually fulfill home that you know, that desire to help other people. Which is, by the way, our highest and truest purpose on this planet, which you know, hopefully all of you guys are in alignment with. So that's all I really have to say about the whole Dave Ramsey thing, but it's a it's a great example of what can and it has actually happened that can destroy, you know, perceived income flow. Well, I mean, in some cases it was we had a coaching client who actually had, he took an active coaching client both kept in contact with him and he had, he was making something like $75,000 a year net. From the Dave Ramsey. ELP thing now they've been doing the Dave Ramsey thing for a long period of time. He's gotten good at you know. But she also had he knows how to prospect. So, on the day of him he knows how to hunt expires in for sale by owners and do the real things cuz he was a coaching client. So in this Dave, Ramsey thing came out and basically he's in the dog Agent. He was like, you know what? This is not so great for me, but I know exactly what I'm going to do. He didn't panic because he had his other spoke but he could lean into right. It's right. So if your strength if you're panicking this is your wake-up call and home or you don't waste too much time. Like we talked about the you know, the Inman article we read to you guys yesterday and paid lead generation. Most of you have no clue that the answer to a paid. Most people think well paid lead generation buying leads, that's bad. Everyone sort of agrees that buying leads or bad. But what do you do instead? You buy leads just doing other things. You buy leads doing your own internet lead generation, building your own funnels. You're still doing the same damn thing of this, right? I mean, I remember a coaching client. That was addicted to one spoke and it had been good for like three or four years that was relocation leads, only from USAA that broker was feeding her, right? But it was literally, the only thing she knew how to do. She had fear and trepidation about doing a quote normal listing presentation to anybody, that wasn't a direct referral. We saw this with REO home. Coming out of the housing crash where they got. So addicted to that one spoke of Oreos and the market changed and they didn't know what the heck to do with themselves. I know. And there were a lot of other flavors of that and there were a lot of agents that were selling thousands of homes per year. Making millions of the REO thing on the other end of it. Basically all just went away and it went away. Rather suddenly it, did I remember a lot of coaching calls where it's like, I remember one in particular, this was an agent that had been cranking lots of business and and here's like, you know, I've got a competitive listing appointment for a house of a million dollars, do you? Or I don't know what to do. Julie, do you remember in 2007? Really 2008/2009. When the real estate market started to really crash had so many big teams and and really, I'd say, medium brokerages that joined our coaching programs and every single these calls were impossible. There were so depressing to be honest with you. I remember because they had to go through such a traveling of not just their expenses but also of their mindset about a business-like and you guys I don't know if you've ever thought about this but there's a very good job. It's that if you're building a big team and adding buyer's agents and buying leads, do you ever actually take the time and look to see the fact that you're not making any money on the buyer agent sides? Are you actually following your expenses? Many of you are running these margins that are single digits. You're making no money in essence. Well, they're only net in many cases cuz we've done the pianos with them, right? Yep. They're real. The only net they have is of the deals are doing themselves right? What? You're almost Choice listings which they would have done anyway. So again, these are all the types of things that you learn usually. Most people learn the hard way for some reason, humans don't like to actually in many cases. They like to accentuate, a dig in and stay myopic on a, a bad idea. And sometimes you have to accept the fact that your business, the model you're using, or the plan you're following, isn't flexible not going to work in a changing market. And this is again, you can have so many. You got to look at Elon Musk all some threat vectors, right? You have to look for the things that are outside that can adversely affect your business, every single Bridge, That's threat. Vectors, you know, Elon Musk Tesla has threat vectors. I mean, an Elon Musk were to go away and go to Mars, right? And no longer run a Tesla, that is a huge Threat, Vector, to the value of that company, people would sell the stock like crazy. So that is a weakness in that company. That's so, you know, dependent on him every single business. No matter how big it is has threat vectors like this, especially if you're a small company and the brakes Threat Vector, the agents create for themselves again, is this dependency on buying business? The buying business model is really a dumb idea. You've got to learn how to be a proactively generated. Once you do your free wage are independent of ever being beholden to the buying leads. I know some of you are in great conflict that can I ask you? Why? Why is it that you're conflicted about it? Why is it that you want to just believe that you can just buy your way to a profit? Why is it that you continue to go down that path? Get to the root of it, it's nine times out of ten. It's because you don't know how to do the work or you're afraid to do the work cuz you don't want to deal with the emotional. That are necessary. If you'd become the best version of yourself as a real estate salesperson, which which you should be pursuing and I am talking about rejection, I am talking about how to be disciplined. I am talking about doing what you don't want to do when you don't want to do. It is level. You know what's funny about that? Aren't those also life skills? Yeah totally. You know I mean so along with the business maturity also comes, you know, being a more advanced human being where you can deal with it. Just take for example, being able to to be versatile with different types of transactions. Instead of only referrals from your friends and family, only people that you hit it off with, why not be able to help anybody. In any situation, you're going to make more money off to be a happier. Individual, you have more opportunity you can meet or exceed your goals for yourself and your family. Isn't that better than being dependent on somebody? Maybe feeding you leads. It's important. You guys understand and Thursday. We're not can get to our points again but it's important. It's important, it's important. You guys understand. The Julie and I are not speaking from Theory or something. We read a we sold a lot of real estate that I'm going to give you guys a bath. You know, where our core level education came from and it came from being really dumb, okay. So I'm going to start out with a good part that I'm a tell you about the dumb part and the dumb part was all Julie's idea. All right, so our first year in the business risk we sold over a hundred houses. How do we sell over a hundred houses? Doing the real work of real estate doing what we teach in the coaching program. Then Julie and I became I would say it's just a micro famous but I think in the industry before the internet we are fairly famous. Yeah, and we are going to different brokerages. We are associated with an article magazine articles were associated. With Remax, we wrote this little book, that was not even really booked, but we, you know, I mean, all these experiences and we are in our early twenties and this was overwhelming, to be honest with you, prior to selling real estate Julian, I'd gone to college and we had a car cleaning and detailing business wage, right? That's what we did and to build the car cleaning and detailing business. What we did starting when we were in high school Julian, I've been married for thirty years starting. When we were in high school, we would go out every Friday and Saturday night. And we would put little flyers on cars that are parked in nice restaurants and we lived in Ohio. So trust me, and I tell you most times it was cold and miserable outside, but we put a little flyer and we'd be strategic. And what cars were firing because we are smart enough to realize that if someone has one nice car, they probably have two or three, which they did and probably devalue detailing as well, right? But our source of business. When we are building that business, with do get off her assets and go off to really nice restaurants and other places, but primarily restaurants and we put flyers on cars and we would get calls. And then eventually, what happened is the business essentially became primarily from we never ran ads, we never did anything and then it became sort of influence. In past months, we only get a doctor, the doctor would tell his doctor buddies that, you know, it just was incredible. Actually. Well, we learned a lot from that business, but we really learned from that business, we didn't even realize we were, you know, we, it was formidable learning for us, but what we did was we worked our asses off and we had we ended up having a very nice little detail business. We had a little group of guys that worked for us, we should Is a pretty low RX. We were running, great margins. I mean, we are this detailed business is very successful and then Julian, I went to, it was called the executive service and Julie, and I went to one of our clients. His name was Jack, Russell in Columbus, Ohio. If you guys know who he is, he's I think one of the most amazing business people on planet Earth. But he went to Jack and we asked him for his advice about the detailing business. And he basically told us essentially that the detailing busy, he introduced us to what the concept of scale was really. You know, there's only so many cars you can do, the more cars you do, the more people you add the less profit. You're going to make the more expense, you're going to have your margins are going to drop. Then you're going to have all these info box of different, you know, all these things. So we sat down with him and he gave us a real crash course on why we shouldn't necessarily be doing what we were doing, which was a real eye-opener because the business was very successful and Thursday, we we listened to him and then we signed on as advice for maybe six months and then we had the Epiphany, we should sell real estate. He actually suggested it so Julie and I decided to get real estate licenses. Okay. Fast-forward, our first years Business this, I'm telling you guys a story. And by the way, we are both both English Majors if the house State University no business background is what I'm telling, you know, family money, no family. You know, like a bunch of condo complexes or something. There's none of that. Well, my mom did have a, what did she did? She had a real estate license in the 1970s for like, six months and work for Century 21, Nelson. Jose Mari, helped us buy our first house and then she quit song State. Well anyway, so first year in the business, what did we do? What we've done in the detail business we hustled and what the better thing about the you know, real estate was is that you did. Like when we put a flyer car it was speculative best whether that person was going to call us or not. But when people put a for sale sign in their front yard a for sale by owner sign. Well hot damn kind of thank you first. You know raising your hand. I mean that was so much better than what we've done in the past and so what we did and we ended up by the way. We didn't even sell the detail business. We gave it away to our competitor. Someone were still friends with realized and so we gave the business away and he dead Business and I don't know what he ever did it. I never followed up not hardly any of our detail customers because they were all very wealthy became, real estate clients. Most of them over time, you know? I would say handful of them over time did but we did not have any leg up other than our education from having been boots-on-the-ground doing the work as we entered into the real estate business and what do we do? Of course we went after the for sale by owners in the expires, did we have any scripts? Need to kind of what we found around. You know in the bookshelf at the Remax office and I would add a third spoke. We did a killer job at open houses. Oh yeah, for sure but we did not have any formal training. We did not have any coaches. We did not have a broker that put us under his wing just quite opposite actually and rate everal. You know, hey or bill on time and don't get sick. That was his those were as to roles which is great. So then basically what we did is we learn to hustle and we sold real estate and no one we did not go to the office. We did not talk to other agents for the most part. We started consuming different bits of information members is pre-internet. We just started listening to Howard Britain wage. We started reading that on some other agencies that are accessable. We drove to other parts of the country and shadowed other agents. We were trying to understand how to build a real estate business. But so we were successful. We became I mean, we are on just on different magazine covers. And like I said we had we received an a almost too much attention, too much admiration for our Prime work from our feeble off. Basically almost kid Minds because people were all like gushing. All of us for having done what we've always done. So like, oh my gosh, how did you guys sell so many houses? I remember, I can give you so many guys suck stories, but we didn't know. It was remarkable and truthfully. I still don't really think it's that remarkable because anyone can do it. It just basically about the hustle. So, we were we built this business. We are selling lots of houses. We were becoming more and more famous, Howard Britain. Basically found out about us through Remax Howard, Britain made Gillian die-hard Britain stars. Now it didn't happen just like that, there was intervening, I don't know. Or two, but here's the moral of the story when we went to the Howard Britain thing. Now, Howard, Britain's business was, had nothing to do with proactively generation. So here, you know, Julie, and I show up this Howard Britain, thing and it's all about this is in the nineties, guys. It's all about marketing. It's all about basically, buying leads, but just through postcards and doing other things like that. It's all about teams. It's all about branding, it's all about brochures. It's about all that bullshit and this is what it was wall-to-wall. Ego marketing. Build your team, not to look at me stuff. This is before Gary, this is before Gary Keller, wrote his book. The the millionaire, real estate agent. Which by the way, most of the people that helped Gary write that book where Howard Britain people. So we thought. Oh my gosh, we have finally, you know, we were part of this really Elite group and it wasn't Elite group absolutely was and it's just, it's Prime, star power was amazing. And there was there was maybe fifty, maybe thirty five stars when we were participating and we go to these incredible conferences. And I remember every year he did this star Retreat and always happy. January. And I remember thinking, oh my gosh, she's going to. It was always at the Ritz-Carlton, it was always way too freaking expensive and way too hard to get their yes, yeah. And we went because it would be warm. Well, not always. I mean, you don't often tell you ride sometimes but I mean, you know, we would we so we would show up and we would, you know, swallow hard. When we saw, what the hotel room was going to cost and everything, and this was wall-to-wall, nothing other than Georgia, Securities, trying to call you. This is, you can take the call. This is wall-to-wall, how are Britain stars? And all these Howard Britain stars were all competing for the biggest, fanciest marketing idea that they could come up with wage. And so, here are Tim and Julie who, where then put on stage and asked to speak about how we sold over. A hundred houses are first year in the business and we were saying well we you know, proactively lead generated we went after for sale by owners and expireds and we, you know, we essentially did the real work of real estate. I don't know about this marketing stuff and all this stuff and so we didn't, we were not smart enough and this is the dumb part to realize that the advice that we were getting from home. All those people had nothing to do with our original Mission was, which is to make enough profit that we could buy enough rental properties. That by the time I was forty and Julie was 39 that we could have enough passive income from our rental properties to retire to log off the cash flow. I'm telling you guys something that I think all of you can relate to, or at least, maybe maybe you, you can relate to it, sort of, from an aspirational perspective, but again, this story is relevant to you as much just irrelevant to me as I tell the story to you. All right, so we we're influenced by all these marketers, all these people were putting pressure on us. The conferences were wall-to-wall. What's your greatest marketing idea? What's your greatest gimmick? What's your greatest, this? The other thing nobody was talking about profit, there was not a single conversation that ever happened about accumulating wealth or buying, more rental properties, or anything, that we were actually just stood in. It was all about spending money, it was all about lifestyle. It was all about branding is, this was a bunch of people and I don't know if they started out this way, who were being influenced basically by the Dead. Idea that their goal should be to be famous now, remember Julie, and I started out not giving a rat's ass if we were famous or not. We just we wanted to get into real estate. We wanted to be successful. We wanted to make profit, we wanted to buy a rental property, that was our mission. Then all of a sudden we're being influenced by these people that are at the time we were twenty twenty-five years. Some of them much older than us and we are the kids and we look like kids, you know? And we're they're all like, oh, you guys now you've done the hard work? Now you need to go do the marketing. Now, you need to work on your brand. This is how old, and long this this crap that you guys are being sold, has been around for Generations. It's never worked with goal, is to make profit. All right, so guess what we did? This is the dumb part. We believed him. Who that? Why would these, you know, powered, Britain Stars. We looked up to and we're friends with totally and I mean, they were saying, this is my greatest song idea, by the way, this is the profit I made from it. Even talk about that they talked about. This is my greatest marketing idea and because of this, I sold fifty more houses. They didn't mention the fact that they spent all the money to generate the leads and close to houses down. You can just sell the additional fifty units. Belief was always more houses would mean more money, right? You don't portion, but more houses does me more money. But more houses doesn't be more profit. Exactly. It doesn't go up in that ratio, right? Exactly. So basically, there were stuck back in the same Paradigm that you and I were stuck with back when we had the detailing business. Exactly. And so we had had that previous experience and we had learned from a very smart, you know, very generous man that sucks is not necessarily the path to go on. If your goal is to actually produce a profit and the best bit. So we we're done, we followed that advice. And for like, we always sold more houses, we always generate more money but it took her third or fourth year at Gillian are in the business for about ten years. We always sold scene hundred and two hundred houses here. But I remember sitting in our kitchen and I remember our account and Fred sitting down with us to do a tax return. He done our taxes back in when we had the detail business and he showed he didn't even pointed out, he wasn't even trying to give us advice. He showed us what her net income was when we had made. I think it was like five hundred and fifty Grand revenue and but we didn't log. Doing all the marketing, crap, the postcards, and all the things that all these people nowadays think is what they should do first. And then he showed, he remind us, whatever. Our net was the first year of business when we was just Jelena and we were out doing the role of real estate and we had no assistance, we were just doing the real work of real estate. We had actually made more net income that first year than we did in all the years we've been marketing and he also pointed out that we are actually booked saving not less as a percent but saving Less in real dollars than what we originally were for the first couple maybe 2 and 1/2 years. We were saving less money. We'd moved away from where what our original Mission was. We had allowed our egos to basically start running the ship, a versus what we really were in the business to do. Which is, you know, obviously we wanted to build wealth, so we can accomplish our financial goals. We allowed ourselves to be manipulated by well-meaning people. And, you know, what you guys are doing the same thing. And then what happened is Julie, and I fast-forward, we had the little Epiphany. We guys, we had seven buyer's agents wage, We had a moving truck, we had three Suburbans all with our brand, ding on it. You know, how much business we got from that? None, we never took a single listing from any of that stuff and anyone says they do take lessons from it. There's no telling you the truth. They might have had someone say, I saw your moving truck but also they that same person also received a call from you, about listing the house, right? It always. But what the human mind will do is just create confirmation bias, that the bad marketing ideas, the source of the business were really the source of the business was is that you sold the house next door. And that agent referred you to that you guys get the point. So this is the, this is the Dodge Journey that we've gone. So when you are thinking about hiring a coach or listening to somebody understand that Gillian I personally experienced with many of you are experienced but many of you never have done. What we did the first year to happen, a balance to the bad ideas of the marketing stuff. Many of you come into the business and you're only exposed to the marketing stuff you never have. Had the experience of actually generating the business yourself, getting your business. Yourself is less stressful job. Less work. Obviously a hell of a lot more profitable. A hell of a lot more enjoyable, a lot more predictable too. And it was it was after we were in the business about ten years in the late nineties that we started. That's when Real Estate coaching started to take off and we start having people ask us to be the real estate coach. We didn't know what that was at the time. Sounded like a good idea. Evidently we were good at it, cuz here we are today. But what we learned from that experience, and what we've now learned from having coached realtors for longer than we've actually sold real estate, was that what we the the essentially, our journey to the truth about how to build a profitable real estate. Business was something that the industry was not aware of and why, who is it? That's trying to fool you into believing. You have to buy your business and create all this stuff that people that are profiting from it. They don't care if you're making profit they just want you to believe that have to buy the Mickey Mouse from them. So you know, Dave Ramsey ELP you don't need that and there'll be a whole bunch of more new licensees to turn it right through that model. So who cares, whether it work for you or not, exactly, remember the average wage Going into business for less than ten two years. And Julian. I think that numbers dropped about thirteen or fourteen months, it is a painful horrible miserable death that most agents follow because they never learn how to act or actively lead generate. Now our Theory, our business practices are mindset. Our system has been tested for decades in all different market conditions in all different price ranges with all different agents, all different skill-sets. What we're teaching guys how to do is we're not just it's a system, you're plugging into a system. When you join our coaching program, we show you prominently them become powerful listing agents. And when you are trained, when someone's trying to persuade you to do, all these gimmicky, things, understand that we are coming from personal experience. But also experiences of literally having had tens of thousands of coaching calls with agents over the last twenty years. Tens of thousands, there's nobody else, the industry has our level of experience, and we do get off Lots of agents that are coming off the, you know, essentially believing that they could buy their business who now want to learn how to proactively lead generate generally speaking, they do come to us when the Tide's go out. Yeah, typical entry call would be. I've decided to break up with fill-in-the-blank. Usually Zillow, realtor.com maybe, Ramsey for some. I've decided to break up with them. I'm not spending that money anymore. Now, what do I do? I'm scared, you know, and so then we talked about is their profile because not everybody's spokes on the wheel are the same, right? Some of them do have, for example, build a relationships, some of them have worked probate, some of them have a vast past client in center of influence list, and all of them just got their license yesterday. So that's where good coaching comes in because not every coaching calls the same know, not every agents. The same at some agents will not ever do a specific thing. If you're like, we've had agents will come to us and said, Tim modulate, the second you mentioned the word for sale by owner. I'm going to I'm going to get a sniper rifle and I'm going to wait outside in the tall palm trees and and wait for you guys to walk in ever do it on Thursday. Never ever. Ever do it okay fine. Okay. Will you do what will you do? And then we're going to build around their strengths and a lot of Agents have a lot of hidden strengths that they don't even realize that they have that no one's that you know that they don't even acknowledge us a strong and we will build around their strengths. By the way when you come to us if you're doing something that is that's working for you that is a passive lead generator. We're not going to tell you to stop. Okay. I'm going to help you Sims. They can prove, it's working profitable, it's functional, it's predictable and duplicatable fine. We might even get you to do more of it, right? We might seriously. You might and there's agents that we've had that with have come to us. We've helped develop a postcard campaigns and you gotta do, you know quite a bit of research before you start doing direct mail to know whether or not that markets really going to be receptive to postcards the. Number one thing is, is how many other people I'm just using as an example. How many other agents are actually mailing to that geographic area? You know, is, are a dominant number one. Number two, agents are the turnover for the area. Exactly. And all this stuff. We're going to help you research. But we might discover, you might discuss off. Along with us that you have the perfect market for postcards. And then what we're going to do is help you. We know which postcards work, we know essentially about how to design postcards, we know where to send you to buy postcards. We know how may I direct mailed. We know how to do all that passive stuff, guys. We really, really do. But we're going to make you absolutely be a proactively generator as much as you allow us to before you start trying to buy the business in this seems to be the only way you're going to build a duplicatable predictable business. If your goal is to indeed make profit and by the way. So Julie and I started out being proactively generators and then we almost we leaned in almost a half percent to being passively generators. We stop proactively lead-generating Fred had the little coming to Jesus session with us with our tax returns and our lack of savings. And then we went to, then we fired our team. We fired off of our buyers agents, we we sold the suburban's. We donated the moving truck. That's okay. We ended up getting rid of all that marketing expense cuz it wasn't it wasn't generating any trackable business wage. One of the things that Julie and I would do every year, it's as we teach you guys doing the real estate treasure map. We would give you a, we had a dry erase board and we had tracked all the sources of our business. We would not, and we were very good faith. Like when someone would call in, or whenever transaction, and why did you do business with him and Julie Harris? We would actually not accept whatever the first answer was that they would give us. We had always asked if there was a secondary reason that's where we almost always found the truth. Say, for example, someone said I'm going, I'm doing business, I have hired. I'm a calling out rather timidly to list my house in this. Is this a survey? It's our Cellar survey, right way? This part of the coaching program because I saw a bunch of there for sale signs in my neighborhood, and a bunch of sold signs in my neighborhood. Or maybe they even received a just sold postcard that we mailed, right? So then what we would do is page. And if we weren't doing this, are these surveys ourselves, are these prequels ourselves. We have someone on staff that would do them. And then there was a secondary question, is there another reason why you called Tim and Julie? And it wasn't until we took Asking that secondary question that we started to discover the things that we thought were generating. The lead were not actually generating the lead that's when we'd find out then they'd say, oh yeah, well, they sold next door's house or well. It turns out that, you know, there are some sort of other connection that had nothing to do with the paid lead generation. So then what did Julie and I started doing painfully. We stop doing it. We start pulling and it was a big dog. We are panicking to just like many of you guys are when you're coming to the Epiphany that paid lead generation is mostly a gimmick. And so, we started pulling it back. We had magazine ads, we had all these different things. We stopped doing them, you know, who cared. Nobody, you know what? We accept our savings account, which is also about the time that we started very diligently, setting aside, at least, 10% from every single again. We started out originally doing that. And then we started off on properties again, and guess what, guys, we made our goal. I was forty-one and Julius 40. I hold on, are you still 35? Are we still telling that story back then? I was thirty five and five. Okay, now your values, 35 and 15 off. I said yeah. Well anyway so we missed our goal of essentially having enough income from our paid off rental properties by a year. Who cares? I mean I work it was a detour and we shared that with you guys so that you know where we're coming from. So you know the history of this and so that you know that you're not alone, it's just worse for you because there's so many more people throwing stuff at you, emailing you calling you prospecting, you to bring all your money on the belief that there's an easy button out there. So as painful as it is, for some of you to have lost this relationship with Dave Ramsey, I want you to see this as the greatest gift that you're being given and unfortunately you have to accept even though it's painful even though it's causing you inconvenience, even though it's going to it's causing a lot of stress change. It's 4th right? No one likes force change, right? But this box is the biggest and best wake-up call you could ever have. This is one of the best things that's ever happened to you because this should finally spark the frankly, the the drive that you have in home. Me and you to become a proactively generator and stop being beholden. If this is if this wake-up call does not work for you and it maybe you're not a Dave, Ramsey person and you're just watching from the sidelines and this is Jake up call for you. This could happen and will happen to you. Oh, what are you talking about? I am an SEO expert. I do lots of pay-per-click. Well, guess what? Google could change the algorithm. Google could change the rules. Well, I'm doing a bunch of young videos and your videos have like two views. I mean, how long is that going to actually take doesn't count? Yeah, exactly. Your mom watching doesn't count. Why don't you learn to actually stop hiding from the people who have their hands in there are right now I'm in your community who are saying. Yes, I'd like to sell my house. Why don't you stop living in this denial? That there there with their hands in the air? Saying, yes, I want to sell my house. It's not just the for sale by owners, the unrepresented owners, it's dead tired. Go ahead and they are came out with a report. What two weeks ago that said, one out of ten people report that they have already decided to absolutely move this year. So let's think about your past client center of influence. Yes. Yep. Exactly. If you if you're intimidated by things like this but has an expired. Some markets don't have tons of them right now go to your own database. If you just got license and you say, I don't have a database. Yes you do. It's your contacts in your phone and so now this is not what you should what? Julie just said what you do. If those of you are thinking, well I'm going to join a coaching program, that's going to basically sell me a bunch of tchotchkes that I'm then going to give away hoping and praying that my centers of influence and past clients will be so impressed with the tchotchkes that I drop off with their house. Every month, in my pot pies, that they're gonna magically going to list my house with me. Okay. Why would you act and think like that? Why don't you just use a script conversation outline? That's all script is and call them with something of value. Like what their house is worth that they don't know about currently, exactly. Why don't you just pick up the phone? Why don't you skip the middleman of being, you know, a tchotchke deliver wage? Why don't you? Actually, it's a hell of a lot more profitable and it takes a hell of a lot less time than all the there's coaching programs out there. Forget Me Not seeds in April. You know, some sort of other you you're more familiar with all the dead. Andy than I am. But why are you doing that? Why don't you just call them? They oh I don't want to call people. I don't like calling people. I don't like getting calls myself. Okay. Well do you don't like getting calls from people who are essentially not very good at delivering. Bring you information that you want to have delivered to you. If you're calling, if you receive a call right now and let's say you have a, you know, a car. And someone says hey, this is Bob, I sold you, your, your Ford F150. And by the way, this is true with what I'm about to tell you. I sold you your Ford F-150, two and a half years ago. I don't know if you remember me, but this is not, this is not a good script, I'm giving you a good example. Now, your Ford F-150 is actually not just worth what you paid for it, but it's worth a little bit more. So you have an opportunity now to sell your Ford F150 and have lost no value on it. And then, matter of fact we can pull into a new one. Would you like to pop over? And it's see. That's something of value, right? That's something about. I probably didn't know about exactly. And that's what we teach you do. In our coaching program practical tactical flood, free stuff off. That's going to result in you guys being in the business for Generations being in the business of making consistent profit for Generations. This is really I hope and I'm thankful, and I'm grateful and I'm proud, and I'm proud of all the ad proud might not be the right word of the agents reactions in this. Dave Ramsey article on him and and they're all basically saying, don't buy business. I wonder how many of them actually are proactively generators. I mean, I mean, oh yeah, well, I mean this again, July if you when you get a chance you should read this article because it really does emphasize. One hundred percent. What you and I have been saying for years about the essentially, the fragility, the fragileness of buying your business, it really. I mean now the comments even gotten worse by the way. Yeah, I'm not going to read these Outlet. You guys. Assuring them yourself. I don't want to be distracted. But anyway, so, so there it is guys. Again didn't get to our points will get to him. Probably, you know, sometimes the future Monday, right? And that is a really great outlined. Rule is written for them. But I do want to give you guys this information because it should be a wake-up call. If it wasn't effect, if we weren't effective enough at delivering you the wake-up, call over our thousands of Pocket Casts and our books and our, you know, our coaching program. If that wasn't enough a wake-up call. Now you've got Dave Ramsey. Basically telling you in essence indirectly exactly what we've always been telling. You don't be dependent. The independent home business is predicated on proactively Generations business. That's predicated on profit, being your primary objective, not on buying business and ego and branding anything else you'd like to say can work? So they call it work because it works. If you're looking for some great weekend reading, definitely get Harris rules. Almost 500, 5-star reviews on Amazon. How about that? And yes please do continue to give us a great reviews. We certainly appreciate it guys. Looks listen, I I really do feel like honestly that Julie and I are leading a movement relating, a movement back to where agents can actually have businesses. They're proud of and that they're profitable. Now, what? Businesses were agents, always have to have sleepless nights and real estate night sweats and living in fear of these asinine things that you guys subject yourselves too because you're following Bad Business Systems, I am very excited that real estate is going back to or should be getting back to what really matters which is being of service to other people and building sustainable, long-term successful profitable businesses. That's what this business and that's what this industry is. It is not the greatest blessing are can be the greatest curse. You have to decide based on the decisions that you make. So, guys, listen, if you need us for anything, text me at +51-275-802-0651, to 75806 the mean time, you guys have a fantastic day and we'll talk with you on the show on Monday. This program has been a presentation by Tim and Julie Harris. Georgia State coaching for more information on our real estate coaching and training programs visit our website at Tim and Julie Harris, remember to tune in weekdays at noon for upcoming shows off. And until next time, thank you for listening to real estate coaching radio with Tim and Julie Harris. Various podcast is a part of the c-suite. Radio network, for more top business podcasts visits. See sweet radio.com.

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Love Life and Dating Q&A

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Now and things island. Good Advice. We've thank you would go forward and. Live Sigmund actually is should be called advice with Allen 'cause. He's got a lot of tips for us. He's always giving us great tips. Okay. Yeah. Let's make it official official segment coming soon. Good well. So anyway, any other fun updates on on your end of the world has la. It's real hot and kind of smoggy all the the crappy ears back. So the mountains have disappeared I. Think this could be due in large part to the northern California fires. which are spreading around the air so I think In Idaho Falls Idaho actually is experiencing smokey California because a blows right into their flightpath. Yeah. Yeah. We have some podcast or friends who are dealing with it also and go a couple of my friends. We have the girls from book at Lot Sorry Book of lies They're right. They're dealing with it and also corey from that's not proper podcast she's. Dealing with some smoke year too. So yeah, it sucks. There's lots of office smoke. I reached out to Allie and Chris, and invited them to come stay down here with us if they need to evacuate, I don't know we'll see. But the air here is a little better very muggy. It makes one's wells smooth hair that they work on really well in the morning with a curling iron and blow dryer poof right out akin to. You actually blow dry in iron your hair sometimes endemic really well, not a lot but if I'm going out and yeah. Wash I take showers I. Know like every other but I'll do body showers day. Usually what does that mean hit the hot spots hit the hot spots hit the what does that mean the pits the tw- Inc? The Turkish. The, feet. Does that mean with the sponge with the soap, you get this up gone and lather up Sunday in the sink or do you go in the shower in the shower I just keep my hairdryer I keep it out of the stream you know. Push that little nozzle down the whole thing. Yeah. Sometimes, if I'm feeling the cell gic and like you know sometimes I get lonely and. Remember how mom used to be this in the in the sink when we're a little bit I'll just go in there and I'll sit in the sink and all ransom warm water. Splash. Around. I make sure my windows closed because it looks out over someone but it's fine. It's. Also for one of you crunched up into small square sink. Yes. I could see it. Yeah. You'd be like that Yogi do you remember that's incredible with John Davidson? Sitting. There is a Yogi box plexiglass box and he got himself all contorted and squished inside the box and they shut and lock the day for me. And it was it affected me I was really that image that was wild. To my little ya although really fascinated, could we do it? Could we try to squish into a little? We could actually. Washed. I'm really on his watch INC I watched with t the Ocean's eleven, folks, ladies, and Gentlemen Ocean's eleven twelve, my head a big day of nothing entertain. But the little guy got the suitcase, a little contorted me and the they have one of their booby-trap character from readers of the West Turk this this guy was that type of jujitsu little contortionist who had stuck in two suitcases and sneak into things to help them steal jewels no use I. Like it. You know I've seen all these movies but I have a part of my brain that just instantly forgets movies movie. WHO's in them? It's awful. Certain ones all remember but mostly good date I am all watch another movie and be I've never seen I'll get halfway through movie and realize already seen it like it's that bad I think I did that with this. That's funny that you say at the very end, there is the Frenchman who their big thing was clooney and he had battled to see who could steal the Roman, EG whatever and. then. I said I think I've seen this whole thing because I remember him doing squats by his pool. This is fascinating. If anyone wants to write this down, please rain in about this segment right here. US Right now go to the review on Apple podcasts stars right there. It's good stay I'm GonNa I. Realize that sometimes these podcast my I have a little bit of a monotone drone or it just seems like I'm like like I'm the burt to your Ernie. Came Out I. I'm just going to I'm going to perk it up a little and go oh yes i. know we need to make our voice jump around a little I, do that too. Especially, yeah, I've been listening to the sleep with me podcast and the guy just tell stories kind of like this, and it really does kind of put you to sleep and I realized I do the same thing. So. Maybe we could pivot and be a sleeping podcast. I mean that's always an option. Do you want to in then we'll just tell the same stories that we do. Just call it Mousa, Weans, it'll. Be. Go speaking of compelling interesting quick. Team? All right now we have decided since my sister is obsessed with dating for some reason and priding me and you were going to ask more questions. I have nothing to tell you. So I said, why don't we come up with ten questions for? So I could get you into this Walk of shame here we get so fun I loved eight I. Love Love I'm a total romantic if you haven't figured it out, I just want all these love things for you but you're a little bit on the cynical side. So we gotta get you back over to excuse me my life. But, just want you to get happy and excited about again. Mom can team up on me and you could shoot rainbows out of your cornhole at. Tell me. because. It's not that simple I'm just saying it's great when you're married and you're all happy and then you go just do this and then I'm the one that has to sit with hinge in weed out. Buried toll water. Like. Standing next to his Armenian tire shop. Gun fingers that's what I have to deal with. Okay. It's not easy out there. This eighteen I know. I guess. So I mean when I was dating I was A. Higher late twenties was the last time I did the prime pick of the litter. In this is the I'm dealing with the guys that are married always because their normal or someone else also liked them. Yes. So therefore there. Well. This is my one of my questions. CAN WE JUMP IN NEWARK QUESTION LIST go ahead? Okay. Would you weans data guy who was married before or who has kids? It's a three parter question. yes. Because I'm not sure that there are yes. Most people I think they would be a better pick of the litter already been in a relationship. Therefore, they know how to be in a relationship children. That's fine. If I eliminated that there would be four people. And they're all Hendry. Now. Very strange. And they would probably be. Better quality people in all honest. Really even know there was a break-up and. Perhaps, you can't quite tell how the divorce happened but. Well. I would ask a lot of questions you see find out how the divorce heaven also imagine there are many people who got married really young and who are just in the marriage for the kids or. They've really fallen out of Right. Whatever attracted them in the beginning or yeah. So that's a logical. Did it for the for the pregnancy? Maybe yeah. Yeah. That's true. All, right good. Who is your ideal man and will you talk about? Oh come on. Wait a second and get you ask you a question and we we go back. Who's your Ideal Man Okay Br. Is A guy who I worked with on the last show? who was a good model of the person that I would WANNA be with? He's very married. He's very loyal. He's he I've known this the whole time I was friends with him we work together. But I saw him as a good model of someone that I would want to be with y you ask because in this will lead into the next question, which is who is the type of person I would want to be with. Not, too small and. Too, pretty she will have. Marry bullpens. I would like do oud. Who is fun. And who's smart and who has a very good sense of humor. what if it sense of humor is like yeah not cynical I don't think I don't like Sherp cynical like if you love the family guy and think it's hilarious I probably would not match up with you cut. You would not date toby because he's currently obsessed that show. what happens so Friend houses knocking at the door because he also called. What can we do? You, turn my phone. Why am I whispering? Why do you? Why do the people on the other side always whisper okay. What's happening? All right. Came in my house I'm in the closet and he just walked into the house. Call me to another in the front room was someone what. Did you just make a noise and. Jump Bouncy Zebu. What do ideal jump out and say Hello Yeah Oh. My God. GO TO PATRIOTDEPOT DOT COM slash mouse and Rene's. Okay. We're back by the next day. So here we are. Oh. Can You? Tell us what happened like. We Hung Up. Yeah I suppose I. Hope Nobody listens to this the the danger of the PODCAST is if you'll get your. You know. Anyway. The person who lives in close proximity to my house who is the front house person. Decided to walk into house. We were sitting here recording as you might have best. And all of a sudden I hear voices on the other side of this closet wall, which means it's my other closet in the front room and I hear someone scrambling around a big giant. Pack. Mouse. I don't know it was holding a lot of weight because it felt heavy to my ear. All of those isn't making sense. I walked out and there was a man, the front house man was standing there and there was some person in my closet I guess trying to access the roof. Past your front room because which closet or you in your bedroom closet or the front I am in the bedroom closet so that front closet so I walked there's a man standing in the front room. That was the landlord guy I live in a back house I'm on this property and. God and he goes, Oh, I thought you weren't home and I go yeah I am or whatever I said in the it's probably on the recording whatever yeah we could play back. You could hear it. In. So flooded with adrenaline meets you because I was in that moment also, and I couldn't focus all night so mad about it and you called. We talked about the legal side of it. It was a lot of you just walk into someone's house I could have been. Having exciting relations in the bedroom. Never happened but. Like she save just on just go on and nothing's happening in there. You might have to move through piles of dust on the bed. But or the one time that you screamed when they walked by the window right? Yes. I had to tour people from standing by my window because they went in the backyard a few times and until he went. Even though so awful just feeling like you're being watched firms. So what is my biggest pet peeve is I? I just want to move to the country. And eat a lot of peaches. Remember. that. Really comes up a lot but Just, it's crazy at this age and stage of my life, and then you feel like. You always feel like somebody's watching me. Let's have That's break into some more song titles that relate to. Cry. There were. Always like some. Off Jimi so are they playing tricks on me? I? Don't know, but they like to walk in my house. So. I had to do a nice little text in. Phrased it. Where I go I should say something that would scare. I, I did say. and I had to freeze it in a certain way. I actually had talked to the therapist because I don't know how to see words by. Helps you put that together? Well, it was that I seem to be a people pleaser in A. No boundaries person sometimes where. I mean you could hear the I know what I said I go. It's fine. It's okay because I tell them it's okay. I slammed the door after I say that and I'm like, no, it's not fucking. Okay. We would. I say it's okay because I make them. You know in one is still I do it subconsciously right? We don't confrontation I'm putting myself in that category because I did all the time it's I. Don't know why it's awful. Earning, but it's slow. There's like a diplomat part of that, which is a positive of. Can. Calm situation or whatever. But when it's used to just let someone kind of boundaries bowel. Yeah. And to the detriment of you if it's hurting you and making you feel fear or yeah that was crossing I? Mean there's there's certain things I can handle but that was like, are you? Kidding. You don't walk in my house I could have been. Naked Juggling knives like sometimes. On? Tuesday. Do I do. In my house Latte of. Beds. Scrambling. Nice Juggling. You're holding a one man nudist colony as you. It is hot there I see why that would be good. That's right. I bring Furnes I talk to them I. Do have several house plants. This is what your loan start buying more house plants. Mean, they're very perky. Time I stayed over in you walked out. Like the lady and the shining. At. Alarium and designed. On it's so gross. You reenacted that scene remember the scene in room. Guess what the room is guys. What's the room in the shining when the old lady in the bathtub, but she gets out and? Remember the room. See I. Don't remember any movie stuff. I. Didn't remember that scene or anything. You've ever seen a movie. Yeah. I know and I say that the shining is one of my favorite scary movies and is it really remember it is but I don't remember all the details. It's a good one Yeah. So you vote on this text and he said what he said he was sorry you know there's a lot of apologia. Yes I'll do that next I said you need to give me twenty four hours advance I, need you to said I need you. This is my therapist advice instead of saying like, can you please just my natural inclination would you mind? Can you please rose like I need you to give me twenty four hours notice and then the magic touch added was I I almost sprayed you in the face with Grizzly bear spray. It I said no sir. Yes because I have grizzly bear spray it's twenty five feet. It's more effective than a gun you talk about this bear spray more than I love. I've ever gets the new pepper spray everybody WANNA be safe. You Get grizzly bears. It's Yeah. It's super scared woman's Mace. Yeah I love it. How do you get it? Is it just at a spurt sporting goods stores? You get? No you have to go down MacArthur Perkin. It's like getting a fake social security number. You have to pay someone to meet him and it's usually super sketchy. No yeah really. Yeah. The throw it out the winning if fifty bucks in the car window and then they. No quick test spray but you have to make sure not to spray the guys because they actually will you. You're kidding you're kidding no, you get. Duped all these La. Lake scenarios. The last one was loons song. I'm let's I wanNA find that bit because I was so confused episode yeah where you did you. Know. Remember the it was like the sexy lion roaring intro side. And then we came into the episode and I asked you how you recorded it and you you had me going for a really long time. You are so detailed the boots you even a sexy it was like due to do hello everybody, pull yourself a chair, and then the loons in the background there's hot cocoa invoke. Share. sit down real still like. Grab yourself some hot cocoa. Some merit and Green. A, warm. Blink, shame. cousy. Ready for. You know what do you ever last night? I listened to frogs and in the Bayou to go to sleep. Do you ever listen to a frog Arna on a CD or I went to Youtube and I had two beautiful frogs and crickets. That's so cute. You know who does that Paul? Trauma, from the varmints occasionally, we'll just go record. Animal noises often at night often your friends any he posts them. He's like. Borrow some of his animal noises. Paul, you hear that please stick them in the mailbox in. It's just GonNa be me I'm going to be dreaming is a small skinny tribes women running from like elephant or something. All the end, the lion comes in his I've had that happen where it's like peaceful sounds and then something weird will enter into youtube like it keeps doing an auto play and suddenly you're. Like an infomercial for. It doesn't. I think this might be our podcast too because we have our our odd commercials now mid roll and. They slam me in the face. Sorry about that folks it's. US You can't don't shake your fist at the man. The man is, Oh, the man is. Probably good for you. That's right. He says, let's get on chat here. Okay. So closing it out. Do you feel good about living there now that you've said I think it's it really uncomfortable. My first instinct is to pack up and move. This is my problem is A. Said of confronting things I will bail sometimes. This is my pass Problem Ladies and gentlemen. This is a a whole new me in the word boundaries. No, it's just facing head on and saying, Hey. This is what I need to happen and someone goes okay and the new move on. Good. Very healthy be. Only exiting and entering my house at three in the morning whenever. In a CLOVIO. Maybe. I could get you a big. Tree you outfit and you could just put it on. You had you could delete. Bush to Bush. Back. Can record that sound like this. Of Cartoon Feet. Who would be good? He that and Phil Rude to he he goes on a lot I. Love that guy he's the best he rose. Or actually, it wasn't him but there was someone who wrote in. A row who'll I think his name was wants to date me and So pulls out all of his his a hairless man, which is great. We could. Talk about he's waiting in a corner somewhere for me that's straight he matter checked all the boxes I mean release into our past episode that was eighty seven and he he might be your guy I mean forget you could just delete. Immediately. Chemistry so I think there might be simply. So it's you know watch out folks pay all you guys that have been trying live whisked me away. No longer those. Not, a Predator I, think. He floated into your life at just the right time just the right time saying. I mean, he slid right in hairless and. Wilson. Richard Simmons knees. Have you ever noticed as shiny anyway go ahead. Let's get on track. All right back to men to finish up I. Think we only got one question which was, who's your ideal man you missed by the way this has nothing to do with me. This is the mouse is obsessed with these kind of questions you're I guess. Bachelor show or something I just you know being married for this many years. After my kicks where I can and I'm sorry this week it's you. Know I. Give you. A new lover? Well, okay. The hinge thing was super fun. I can't deny that that was super like right up my alley also was on match for a while because then I heard Hendra terrible then I did the match thing around that same time. Jen Jennifer Matin. Had ME. Sign up for it at her house she like let's do it right now. I've got all these women in my life. You Jennifer Combine. We're doing it now who profiles for me like I'm a little mousy Hey Hey. Sorry. Sorry. A little tiny being Weiner. Little Franken beans. It's just that you are so against the whole thing just keeping. So bring the phone to. Me We push fun. Women are just helping make it more fun and get the ball rolling because. It's fun what let's come down from the clouds for a moment please and I will tell you the thing is I know what kind of guy like Okay. These are not the people that tend to cross the stream of these dating sites. Doesn't crossing the street I mean. It happened recently, home to we got that messed up with something else but okay, fine. From ghostbusters. Okay. I also would like to contend that. You don't know that learn. Okay. Can I just let me tell you the kind of guy like let's go through a quick, very rapid fire briefing and and I don't even know what I'm going to say but I'm going to give a General Jessica okay. Let's hear it. Okay it's going to be someone who is kind hearted. they are a good listener. They know how to communicate are adult enough to work through issues. They are handsome to me which means. You know Miami Negga Post, some photos of people I find handsome. But yeah, they're Liberty Dream Boat. That's one of my questions to they like nature. They would have to enjoy hikes and nature and things they like music. On in some universe of the same music like a, let's throw a few. Who Do you think John Denver S. I like John Denver and then like Jack Wade. All the delta blues that Genre Tom Waits, we could do a little johnny cash we could do a little beach boys, days do all you know like the Brain Wilson? Smiling Pets Hills. Old Beatles white album. Okay. Anyway. kind of stuff and you know kings they were totally into hip hop or like Mexican Polka that would mean you don't want anything. But generally, there's a type of person I think that's in the wheelhouse of. SMART, maybe even a little nerdy and. You know, I don't want to get superficial, but maybe they would have certain types of cloth like if they're wearing the TV's sandals with socks, kid do it. See. Outs goes back to the goes back to the booth. I don't mind. So anyway, do you get what I'm saying? Kind of? Artist Musician vibe world you could talk about culture liberal I can't do moderate or conservative. Sorry. That was going to be of my other questions if can't do it. Here's a conundrum for you. If you knew that this person would financially support you forever and you never had to work again but they were a trump supporter. Would you be with them hell? No no, that's that's it. Yes. It can support myself. I don't need boundaries, ladies, and John vs. No just you get what I'm saying right and be nice if they're vegetarian, but that's going to rule out behalf the universe. So you know, but they have to love animals and kids and be cool and like their parents and be nice. Yea. Guy This is my new brother-in-law. Yes. Bring him in. Okay. All right. put it out in the universe. This is who you're finding that guy. On the corner okay. All right. So moving onto more dating questions with tries. Okay. Let's get all this over. Can move on with life. Let's do it. Okay. All right Let's see. So you did hit a lot of things in that one answer. What are some other deal breakers dating guys was the straw that will break the relationship camel's back to get my quick. Camel relationship pack. That was pretty quickly. The relationship camelback would be. someone who is narcissistic? Yes. Because we've dealt with this before dealt with this several times and terrible, it's in Knoxville guys themselves under being. Guys themselves and it could there under the guise of being like. Yeah. You Yeah. There's the sociopathic type in narcissist. So that would not be good someone who is. All about themselves and money and getting ahead by stepping on people. Maybe someone who is too. Like someone who's not rugged at all who couldn't handle? Let's say camping. Let's say woody Allen would not work for you. Probably not. Yeah. What he for you or? I mean he might like the Beatles. White album I don't know. Denver per what if he did and then also married his daughter. With that. That's a dealbreaker. Okay now. Are we done with that question well, can you just go back and also give me some dream boat celebrities? Oh, I just. I'm not good with this because. By over met a few of the ones you're. Okay. One night we're in the East hotel. Okay. We she came down for a podcast convention my sister. Joel Mouse in downtown. Downtown on a and you we were laying in our respective beds. Was this tonight and then? You were getting. was when were in Palm Springs? Seven th birthday in pumps. And we were there laying in our respective beds and we these little twin beds. It was cute. It was like a summer party and then you were saying, is it nice to think about what you want to dream about and then I'll fall asleep and he'll be my dreams. Will Our dreams to be all Wu all sexy a mind I go I think Tom Hardy's hot. So I looked at video but someone had. Put together a montage of Tom Hardy cleanse and they were all that I. Guess He's Gotten Saucy in a few films because it was song. Rat. Poor. Can Sing. Why? Wyoming. For your for your for your. Okay. So imagine that. MAPUNAPUNA. Something about a hotel room. Room go to. So anyway, it goes through you know sexy shots, shirts off and. There's a picture of him that held for. At least eight seconds of just his guns, a Weiner what like consoles knows kind of popped out and went down. Low Silhouette. backlit or something, and it was r. m. and he moved scientists. Live video. So he likes shook his guns. Oh He kind of did a little helicopter and and it kind of. Gone. So just doing some house. So. It was a little shocking and then. We're watching it together. I think that was the first time I watch it and you're like Oh my God. I didn't know either you're like here pervert. So anyway, that's so the song came up for the next couple of weeks. So yeah. We can. Pictures Gonzo got past stores. So anyway, Tom Hardy though is One of those beautiful creatures I will say he's he's hot old. He kind of looks like he'd be a jerk. Yeah. Probably here I. Think he's a nice jerk. He's a cocky model jerk where these. Signs the autographs but. We'll yeah. No, you know what I worked with someone who worked with him on the Max and I think he was a bit of A. He's kind of a you know you know that vibe he's like a cool guy can hang out with people talk to the crew but also you know he knows that he's hot shit. Okay what about yours? My questions, you don't get to your own reading. Who was your very first real and exciting kiss details. We've talked about on the podcasts before but can't. Okay Yeah. My Summer Camp Christian Summer Camp Hoover with little teeth. sidled up his hand while we were watching Christian video in the multipurpose room. And whispered do you WANNA. Go for our nature walk later and because I was peer pressured because Nancy an alley and I forget who the other girl was they all have their first kiss at camp and I hadn't yet and they were all. GIGGLING in the corner talking about it and I was left out and so I was fine. We'll go on a nature walk because I wanted to get kissed and I wanted to know what it was like. So later after lunch, we walked down this trail amongst the redwoods of Santa Cruz Mountains. And we went to the the haystacks that were there for the archery range. and he sat down and he pulled me onto his lap. Any overdue he moved me. Teeth all slobbery like over a face it was awful. Pretty much squinched my eyes together. Dealt, with it and then hopped up over you're done and went back. Did you wait every mouth? Dry. On there because you oh no I wiped it. Yeah. What is that move? You have to kind of it something Yeah if you're GONNA hurt their feelings but it was awful. Wet Face. Yeah. Phones the worst hoover. On that. No thought maybe could be a different experience. I mean, hopefully, he got some skills and it was so bad. It was so bad. We walked back and it was like. I was like the walk of shame it wasn't that. I'm just one, thousand, nine, hundred, Eighty, eight. Eighty seven we walk back and He was bragging to the boys or whatever, and I went and told the girls we who you but then the thought of him was so gross that I through the grapevine broke up with him. He told someone to go tell them I'm sorry I can't do this and he cried we got on the bus the next day and he was crying. By Joe you're heartbreaker you have been I'm sorry. His name, his name to. Your heartbreaker a dream maker eleven kicking. Right next question. Let's go. Okay. Can we pause really really quick. Okay I, just wanted to talk about our friends really quick hold on please. Only Lucas from best forever's a pass for kindred spirits and start him up or we spend more time loving on our friends because although friends are in front of us, they're often in the shadow of other relationships. So if you WANNA love on your friendships a little bit more embrace friendship a little bit more or just appreciate your friendships a little bit more than this podcast is for you. We'll explore all the different ways friendships, take place share the amazing stories of friendship and discuss best practices for the difficulties that friends may experience. It's time to embrace friendships because without our friends, who would we be? So checkout best forever's on Itunes stitcher and all the other podcasting listening venues and be sure to follow best forever's pod on Instagram facebook and twitter. This is such a weird behavior to be airing the stuff on national television. Don't agree weird because we're. Yes. Yes. Okay. So next. heat this. Okay. Have you heard of the Game Mary Kill? No No. All right. Well, you have to I'm gonNA give you three choices in you have to choose one to. Choose one to Mary and she's went to kill I'm sorry. Make Whoopi. You have to choose one to make whoopie when to marry and want to kill it's called. Would be married kill. You already looked at out of the bag. Okay. Go ahead. Oh. Yeah. You are Efi at your at your landlord. All right anyway. Here. Your three choices ready. A man was six Harry toes on each foot WHO's only allowed to wear leather loafers. K. That's number one. Or number two, a man with the worst garlicky stale. Grid, is that his word accurate cred acid. Awful smell. Garlicky Stale, acreage hazardous. That's choice number to ask me without aeneas. And number three is a man who's four feet tall and completely hairless. Oh, I like that. Right. So we'll be married kill which one would whip the hairless man. There was A. The wait wait why four feet tall. was that exciting because it's like was it avars it's. It's fun right we do need more fun in our lives. So we do need more fun and then I think of. There was a guy who we had a layover and we drank a bunch of Margaritas, with all the layover people and we ended up getting. A little tipsy. trip. No. This is years ago. Can't remember where it was going New York or something and. He was completely hairless was held it news about four feet tall, but he was really cut and good-looking. offered. To. Change, my oil west. Conclusions. But I ended up carrying him on my shoulders on the lake, the walkways that speed you down those. How did you really? Yeah we yeah it was I'm surprised. We didn't booted from the airport. There's a lot of. What a WHO all right now, you really didn't happen when your shoulders yeah do. Fun. He really was working tall. Yeah and I met him in oceanside again when he was in town and we would did that breakfast. But that you and I went to an oceanside better pier, he's a nice guy well, look at you. Yeah. Very openminded of you. Yeah. Sounds good. You would have said, no, do you want me to tell you why? I wouldn't I only do it when they deserve the explanation or they're like goading me for it or they're awful person then I'll talk them. He's Nice. That's very direct. You have boundaries. Okay do thank you. Or End okay. So that's the would be okay. So Bald I would. Definitely the little slippery whistle for the for the part and then the toad guy. We have a house with what were the options I can't remember no a man six Harry toes on each foot who could only wear leather loafers. Versus a man with the worst garlicky Stale Hellas to do what with. You have to Mary or kill. Oh kill. The. Doesn't sound like garlic but you know the hell it does is part is not as exciting but maybe he breathed a burn at night and you would just think that your dream. Pizza. Under to shoots his breath right up. He's like one of those little. bulldogs. And better by the minute okay. Yeah he does circular breathing on the side. Into the digital do. Sometimes we'll say did you don't right moving on a Larry write that one down who we? Call Your, friend Chris Bury and give him that one small. All right and the next one. What would I do with him buy a house? WANTING TO BUY A. House I really want to buy a house with anyone. Mary. Kill its new house buying a gag kill that guy I can't stand six. Is Dead But he? sideshow GIG for you you could make a lot of money of him. No. That's just too much that. Too many appendages. Men have too many appendages already you've got gotTA. Fingers. and. We're. Having this sucks fingers. Who just suck? WHO has fingers I don't know I watched a movie once. I, I assume everyone's doing thi-. You suck your own fingers like this is what I'm. GonNa do later I'm GONNA. Suck some salt I, what what does it even mean until finger sucking just think of? Salt okay. Let's move on. Okay Next question When was the first time you masturbated how? Hills. I can't disease. This is a family show. Whose family mine. Seriously you put me on the spot all the time. All right. I'll. Conversion than I have to. Okay, what is the weirdest place you had? interludes I can't even say intercourse interloping zero. What's the weirdest place you've ever done I'm to get destroyed by lightning? Do you really want to hear this? Bad. Patriots Dot Com. Slash Mouse. I have that question what's the most public place you've made whoopie Probably in the park and will be in the park. Yeah I'm an insufficiently came to my mind under a blanket or full throttle vaguely remembering tree industry is. This, the Redwood Forest, the Dr Thirty. We were in the redwood forest kind of by the Gold Stream waters? It was land that was made for you and me these boys I am on fire. I should charge for this. APM This is what's happening. I'M GONNA give down to the Borscht belt me and Mel Torme. Start. A big old sideshow and our velvet suits with velvet voice. He's not even alive anymore we can't talk like I mean, yeah he's probably looking down from into this. Comedy pulpit. Listening all this. I'm so sorry that I made you talk about the night we hung out with Don, Johnson and his house, and if he walked in on new pooping, wanted to make out with you. Would you have details question? Oh well. My dear sister. Just a tiny briefing. I worked on the show, Nash Bridges with Don Johnson, and Cheech. If you remember this from years ago, she came to the wrap party with me. We ended up going back to Don Johnson's house with like a handful of people. My sister decides she has to Poop. And goes into we snuck upstairs. We went into Don Johnson's bedroom. Was He? came. Or were there Yes they just had their daughter Dakota was like seven. Yeah. We're looking through all the clothes like everything was hanging wealthed closet, right? Yeah. We she couldn't just go poop and I was nervous I'm like working for this guy I'm just used just get it out and let's get Outta here. We're not supposed to be in his bedroom. She goes in there to sit there casually and I have to stand the door doesn't even lock. So I have to stand inside holding the door. In the strange situation in this big bathroom well, she just casually. Cat Rules. Knocks, you gotta take it. It was and then. Star of the show Hymie Gomez opens the door because I was no longer holding in because I started putting on lipstick or something walks. Eager you. It already pull up your pants and he said, are you guys doing burgers? We don't know what Barker's still don't know workers are the point is on Johnson walked in on you if it was dawn instead of the Co Star, would you any wanted to make out with you? Would you have no because you would have been there. We would have been in my cloud of funk and he comes up to my Chin No, I would not have. Would I have maybe I would would have really because you have a story you love celebrity stories that go nowhere. Would have gone somewhere. Yeah You would have done it. I know you maybe ooh that called me to moments though. Why 'cause? No would that have been a moment? Not Really Oh, my boss, but it could have been for you. Oh God that guy was doing all over the place when he introduced when you first met him. He shook your hand or whatever. Instead I want to jump your sister's blows my God. That's right. Yes yeah. He he had three sexual harassment lawsuits on them. At that time God you know just kept my distance. All right and good. One for you. Yup Do you want to get married and have kids. Might be a little late for that. I know you can die. Specially, if you have an accidentally that you could, okay, here's my here's my real answer though I don't care as much about the. Paperwork. As. We see in the world of I've never cared that much about having all of the certification around it. It would be if you really wanna be with so many really loved them. And It would be that I if I still don't see. The need for but if it happened, that would be okay too. Far As kids that would also have to be situation where. It was. You know you could afford to support them and you really wanted to but it's all about the person I think. So. If you found the right person. It would be it's a possibility say no to anything. Don Johnson Yup good I would say no to that. Good, right. See this is exciting. So my kids my whole experience hasn't turned you off and having kids. Now, but it's a lot of work I mean. I am used to. Supporting Myself. So it would be shifting gears to have to figure that out it'd be I mean the other person would have to work. Okay, here's here's a question. Sorry that you're done Would you date someone who transitioned gender to live as a man? So they were born. As a woman I guess. Physically. So transition but not with the surgery. I mean, it's hard to say in lessee meet someone what if you fell in love? Yeah. Love could surpass all obstacles. You are very openminded. This is great gas seeing. I'll tell you what really thinks we're? Just, about to say I take a page of your book but forget it. Oh my God I mean I know what I like I really do link guys. Have left myself open to the possibility. And I like girls as friends 'cause they're fine I just don't. You know. Like and nowhere lack and now. I won't. I thought we're going to do everything reminds us of a song and we started doing it and then nothing did maybe I didn't God my songs are going to. We could go back to Whoopi and I. What be. loaded. Perk Pang. Do you like. Oh. had. These really to are these too risky for. It is we did just come off of a campaign for the home school buyers co op All right. Let's back that up God bless i. it just means more editing. That's all right I will not ask you that but I was going for the hard and fast question you more uncomfortable. Okay here's one. Do you like massage you? Only theory. Massage. Or Wisconsin grandma got a hands are massage. From, Wisconsin once one and they also drink constant common. Okay Anyway. Do you like that I? I do like massage I. Love Massages. I missed that that's one thing I, missed with all the shutdown is there's no hands on anything. It's all he has a second. I know you're real answer you you're not really into massage. Oh well, if given like time constraints and money constraints would I choose a massage? No I'd probably choose a new pair of jeans. That's always my comparison. I'd rather have the thing that's going to last longer because the massage comes and goes it feels great but then it's going. But you think it's always worth it. You always go for the massage, right? I am maybe an in the moment. Pleasure seekers. That dopamine powerful stuff. Tell. You. Well it. Just it's a gift that you can give yourself. True. That were you could get jeans and give them to yourself, which is also could be forever rammed. Blue Jean. De. Well I'm out of questions I. think that was it for me how about you? Okay. Oh I got a good one. If you had to have a threesome for eight hours. Who would you choose and has to be a man in the woman not your husband liberties. You ever. What real people celebrity okay. Chris Gwyneth. And then. Went and then I would. Sit as a councillor really because I wanNA find out why they broke up for real. And there'd probably be no sex we would just talk. To Oh, yeah that's a dumb question I urge w answer Wait a second. No. That's fine. These are Democrats. Okay. What about you? I, like the Saito. I don't know and probably go for like Scarlett Johansson and Tom Hardy both I think they're all. Lizard reviews like sexy lipped people. Yeah. You'd be there all the presidents of pillows be nice. Yeah. Halloween lip soon purses Percy Lips. All. Right. So now this Horrible sessions over. This is a refer-. Yes I think we're done. PODCAST has been interrupted about twenty eight times. If, we can plug it together. And I would like to say thank you to everyone who's listening. It's so fun hearing from our listeners and fans and getting feedback, and we really really really appreciate you especially our patrons or latest. Is Jodi thank you Jodi for listening. 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CNN 5 Things for July 5, 2021 Evening Edition

CNN 5 Things

03:53 min | 3 months ago

CNN 5 Things for July 5, 2021 Evening Edition

"Good evening here. Are the five things you need to know for monday. July fifth twenty twenty one officials announced the recovery of three additional victims of the surf side building collapse bringing the total debt. To at least twenty seven searching resumed. after then remaining portion of the champlain. Tower south was demolished. Sunday night ahead of tropical storm elsa reaching florida miami. Dade mayor danielle living kava says the investigation into why the condominium collapsed is complicated. And we'll take a while. There are one hundred. Eighteen victims. Still unaccounted florida. Residents brace for elsa to make landfall in the state as the tropical storm. Batters cuba elsa is expected to make landfall near the florida. Keys early tuesday and then move over portions of florida's west coast on tuesday and wednesday. A one to four foot storm surges forecast across much of southern and western florida including the keys and north to indian pass or castor say the highest storm surges expected between benita beach to the lockney river which includes tampa bay japanese officials. Say at least four people are dead. Eighty others missing after a landslide in itami japan at least twenty-six others have been rescued officials. Say the landslide was a result of torrential rains that engulfed the region. A tommy is about sixty miles. Southwest of tokyo authorities in novi michigan announced. Nhl goal tender matisse given x. is dad the twenty four year old columbus. Blue jackets player was killed when a fireworks. Mortar struck him in the chest at a private fireworks party. Novi police say they are still investigating but the goalies death appears to be a tragic accident. Blue jackets president of hockey operations. John davidson says the organization is shocked and saddened by next and sends condolences to his family and friends. One texas ospital delivered one hundred babies in two stretches totaling ninety one hours andrews women's hospital at baylor scott and white all saints medical center officials say the hospital delivered fifty two babies in forty-seven hours beginning on june twenty-fourth and an additional fifty five babies in forty four hours on june twenty eighth. The baby boom shattered the fort worth texas hospitals twenty eighteen record when they've delivered forty eight babies in forty one hours. A hospital says the most popular names were atlas and daniel the boys and jonah. But the girls. That's all for your c. n. n. Five things evening edition or more on these stories and the latest news you can always visit. Cnn dot com slash five things. If you're using anything other than indeed for your hiring you're wasting your time. Hire great people faster with indeed indeed dot com helps you find quality candidates instantly with indeed instant match indeed searches through the millions of resumes and their database to help show you great candidates instantly get started right now with a free seventy five dollars credit to upgrade your job post at indeed dot com slash. Cnn that's indeed dot com slash cnn offer valid through march thirty first terms and conditions apply.

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Blue Jackets Bow Out

Hockey Today

00:00 sec | 2 years ago

Blue Jackets Bow Out

"The. Is that game misconduct podcast with Don league-record and welcome to the Tuesday vision of games conduct. Don, league-record, let's dive into last night the Columbus. Blue jackets run comes to an end as they lose to the Bruins three nothing. Three straight losses for Columbus. After taking a two one series lead, Boston credit and took a Rask as well. You know, all this talk about the wildcard teams and the great performances by Brodsky and Martin Jones and certainly would grew Bowers doing in Colorado, and who can really forget what Curtis mcelhinney is done. Specially in the latter stages of the series against the islanders, and of course, Bishop and Bennington with the Saint Louis Dallas series, but took harass those experience of the goaltenders left in the playoffs stole last night's game. He was just absolutely spectacular in a game that I thought the blue jackets thoroughly outplayed, Boston outshot them thirty nine to twenty nine, but the turning point in this one really several of them was the fact that the blue jackets oath. For four on the power play multiple moments in which they could have gotten back into the game scored the first goal of the game. Just could not get it done could not get that power play goal. When it was the most important specially in that second period Pasternak takes tripping penalty to forty two blue jackets can't score Marsh and the slashing penalty nine twenty two could not score. The controversial Charlie McEvoy hit on Josh Anderson in nineteen forty carries over a minute and forty seconds to the third period. Can't score Nordstrom slashing penalty of four forty eight. Could not score four straight power play opportunities for the Columbus. Blue jackets, no goals, and at any moment that could been the turning point of the game. And as far as the McEvoy hip is concerned. Now, clearly you look at it. That's an intent to injure, and I love Charley McEvoy I've gotten Noam, but you could see the look on his face that he was expecting to get booted from that game. He left his feet the head was targeted. And I know that Paul Stewart carry Frazier on twin? Hitter. We're trying to defend the officials in this game saying you gotta get a break. It's a penalty. But certainly Kelly Sutherland through his arm up knew it was a penalty, but they got together and without the benefit of replay. It's hard really to determine whether there was intent there to injure the NHL needs to come up with a rule in those situations when there is a distinct hit to the head where it's clear there's got to just be that automatic five minute major because if you really wanna protect heads if you really wanna stop head injuries. That's gotta be the terrent because you're never gonna be able to get in somebody's brain to determine whether it was intentional or not Charlie mcevoy's, not a dirty player. He didn't mean to hit Josh Anderson in that fashion. But he did it. He hit him in the head. He targeted the head was really the only part of the body that was hit by the shoulder of McEvoy. So to me McEvoy should have gotten kicked out of the game should've gotten a five minute major. It doesn't matter because the blue jackets couldn't score at any of the power plays that they had. So it's hard to say that. That was really deterrent from the blue jackets winning the game because granted five and majors lot better than a two minute minor. But when you go four on the power play you can't score on the power play. You know, you hit the blue jackets you out face off, the blue jackets you out shot of the Bruins. I mean, and yet you still lose the game three nothing. I don't think Columbus has a kick coming plus three consecutive losses towards said they were going back to Boston for game seven they do not. He was kinda Kurt in his press conference. And certainly Brad Marchand at the end of the game, very courtesy saw the interview which sports net. It was ridiculous. Don't don't agree to the interview. Then if you're gonna say ten words in in three questions, I mean, you embarrass yourself you embarrassed the organization and the fans want to hear from you. I mean, I think you're a guy that is a bit of a dirty player. You're not my favorite player by any stretch of the imagination. But I'm sure the Bruins fans love you. So to give such Kurt answers to the questions than just don't do the interview. That's what I would suggest any player that if you're going to embarrass the interviewer by. Just answering one or two words to a question. Then why even bother doing the interview in the first place, but with all the talk of four wildcard teams going to the conference final. Now, Boston the second best team in the regular season moves on to the conference final for the first time since twenty thirteen and they will take on the Carolina Hurricanes that you'd be terrific series. As you've got the favourite versus a clear underdog. And we'll see Carolina can keep this wave going and see a Boston can't go back to the Stanley Cup. Final avalanche. Stay alive with an overtime victory in game six over the sharks. Final score there. Four to three the concerning thing for the avalanche. Certainly having to play on the road for a game seven tomorrow, but you had three separate one goal leads and could not hold onto any of them. Because you saw it where Joe skits the first goal four oh two into the second period after a scoreless first and then Vlasic who's been so good for this team defensively. Now starting supply some offense ties it comp. Who's been great in this series? Scored his third goal late in the second period. Only for burns to score with ten seconds to go in that period. The tide again comfort gets a second of the game. Only to see it get tied by plastic again with his second and you end up going overtime. And it was landed Scott, two minutes and thirty two seconds in the scores. And whenever I think of Gabriel landed Scott, and he's kind of got lost in the shuffle with the avalanche because certainly McKinnon's had a tremendous postseason, and you know, mccart coming in fresh from college. When there's so many good young players Rantanen, certainly Atlanta. Scott kind of gets lost the captain of the team. He was given the captaincy almost as an infant coming into the league. He's such a good player that sometimes not that you forget about them. But maybe you don't listen as high as really you should when you talk about the town on that avalanche team. And he gets the game the game winning goal in overtime. And now we got to go to a game seven for San Jose. And I remember somebody asking me on Twitter not too long ago about the old. Older players on the on the on the sharks. And certainly like the Bruins is a lot more veterans on the sharks and the Bruins than you. Do have say on the avalanche for sure of the Carolina Hurricanes for the most part. You've got a lot of young players on those teams that are really driving the situation outside of Justin Williams in Carolina, those games gonna pile up even to San Jose advance of the conference final fourteen games. They would have played now the stars. And the blues they're gonna play their fair share games as well. Both of them when six in the first round and they got a game seven tonight. So a lot of games have been played. But maybe Carolina sits there and lurking that because of the sweep maybe a little bit more rested in Boston because Boston had to play a couple more games than certainly they get to the Stanley Cup. Final know how many games will San Jose and Colorado have to played to be able to get to that to get that level in San Jose already knows that if they advanced they will have played more games than anybody fourteen and with big with bodies that are a little banged up especially Joe Thornton, you know, how much. Much work will Pete the bore have to do if they revive game seven to just physically get them ready for that conference bottle. But again, they'll have the benefit of playing teams will also be playing a game seven tonight stars. And the blues that's alone game tonight. Of course, the game seven for the avalanche and the sharks will be coming up tomorrow stars. And the blues to me, I said it all along. I thought these worse than evenly played series. Now, we've seen some if not blowouts not one goal games down the stretch. They have mental one goal games. But you know, one team blows the other team out. And then the same thing happens in reverse the next time they play these are two evenly matched teams. It makes complete sense that it's going to go seven games, and I would expect the classic tonight. Now, the blues her home, I believe the blues are the better team. But I think bishops the better goal tender, and he certainly didn't catch the break. We talked about with EJ yesterday taken that shot off the collarbone and being down and then giving up what would what was insurance goal on Sunday to make it three one. But I think the blue. Whose are the overall better team if Bennington doesn't shrink in playing in? You know, his first game seven know Bishop has been there and done that go back to twenty fifteen and those huge wins about it's in Square Garden in the conference final against the Rangers winning that game seven shutout fashion. If you remember to advance to the Stanley Cup final where they lost to the Blackhawks so a little bit more experience with Bishop. But I think the blues overall of the better team. So I think we're looking at a classic here. It could be fun. And really all these teams that are left right now have to believe they can win a Stanley Cup. So certainly congratulations to all the teams prince two surviving. Congratulations to Boston for advancing Carolina. And we'll see what happens with the game sevens. Coming up in the Western Conference want to get back to the blue jackets for just a second because we did touch on their loss. Three nothing. I think it's going to be a fascinating off-season. I tweeted this out after the game last night. Probably one of the most interesting off seasons we've seen in a long time. And certainly the most interesting in the history of the blue jackets franchise, it looks like it's a fatal. Complete. Now, the John Davidson is going to go onto the Rangers as their president. So there'll be a change there. Do you? Let Tortorella go. Do you let the general manager go an, and I don't know how you do any of this. When you're in such a state of flux with all the UF as that you have so. I don't know if you let those guys do the work. And then if you lose them what I'm gonna do fire them the of the draft coming up. I don't know if you can make any changes to the front office considering that the teen did make it out of the first round in in spectacular fashion sweeping Tampa mean they went up against a better team in Boston and Boston, they give them everything. They could they didn't go to a game seven, but they outplayed them in game six, and you know, I I know John Tortorella didn't wanna talk about sensing any accomplishment. He said don't go there. But I think if he even he if he stepped back during the course of the summer and looked at what the blue jackets -ccomplish that maybe not him personally who's wanna Stanley Cup. He's gone to a conference final before. But for that franchise for that. Bam base to experience that kind of Iran, even though it came up a little short than what they thought especially when they're up two games to one against Boston. They have to feel that sense of accomplishment, but a Panara and goes Ross ski goes to Shane goes, you gonna have to start all over. But I mean, you're gonna start completely over. Over and just fire everybody and then start over. But how do you do that now? And then what you bring in a new general manager to try to convince those guys stay, and then if those guys decide not to to stay and they want to leave, but they don't make that decision, obviously until July first you then get fire everybody on July burst. And after you've already had this current regime make the draft picks and then have a new regime try to go chase other free agents. They're really in a state of flocks here and with Davidson being gone as a major hockey guy in that organization. It'll be interesting to see how they handle this. And it just comes down to did they do enough with this Ron to convince Panara n- and Bob Ross key to stay. I mean, forget to Shane you went out and acquired him. I think half knowing he wasn't gonna come back design. Joe I think they can keep but those two in particular your best forward, you're all world goaltender. They walk out the door that's difficult to replace. And you wanna feed off the momentum? And that you created this year, but it all hinges on what they decide to do. And it looks like they're going to be a packaged deal. Both are going to stay or both are gonna go. I'm not saying that they're both gonna go to the same team if they leave. But it does seem like they're packaged deal that they're both stay or though both go if they both walk out the door. Those are two significant bodies are leaving your organization it's going to be tough for them to be able to handle that. And we'll see what direction they go. It would be a shame. If that whole thing got blown up because I do think that they won over a lot of fans there's a lot of excitement with hockey in Columbus. You saw that generating over the last couple of years, they just couldn't stay healthy. They finally put it together. And would hate to see them have to start all over again. I think those fans probably deserve a little bit more than that. But you know, what those guys worked to become free agents, and they deserve to go where they wanna go. Let's hear from you at Donald Gregg a hashtag game is conduct. Chris says, hi, Don, if the Bruins end up winning the Stanley Cup could we then point to Rask stopping Jenner on the penalty? Schott is the turning point in the Cup. Ron. Yeah. That's probably it. Right up to. In the series, and that was a huge huge moment. And even even the goal that they scored after blowing the lead back on Saturday. I mean, it kinda got lost in the shuffle. Because of what happened last night? But in a lot of people thought it was a foregone conclusion that the the series was over Boston's up three one there's less than what eight minutes left in the third period on Saturday. So it looks like it was going to be a blow out. And then you wonder what's going on in Zingel and Kurgan score back to back goals. And you've got six minutes to go. It's all of a sudden a three game. And if that game goes to overtime and then Columbus finds a way to win you think of the momentum shifted would have taken place their in game five Pasternak's scores. And they win that game with a minute. Twenty eight seconds to go in regulation, and then don't look back and they win yesterday and win the series completing, you know, three consecutive wins to be able to do it. And also the fact that Pasternak's scored he woke up I mean. Score two goals on Saturday. He was kind of nowhere in these playoffs considering the kind of regular regular season that he had him. Waking up Rask starting to play abroad ski which clearly happened over the last three games all major turning points for sure and Rask. Is that forgotten guy? He's the best goaltender. I think. Laughed. I think the Bruins are the best team laughed. And who knows with all the upsets and all the underdog conversation. We could still very well see the sharks and the Bruins and the Stanley Cup final. And a lot of people not the beginning of these playoffs. And a lot of people at the beginning of the season would not have been surprised if that had been your pick David says you said last night, this might be the most important off season and blue jackets history. I'm assuming towards job is safe after the uncertainty when it looked like they would miss if you're the GM who do you prioritize and getting back, Bob pioneer and or bowl. I mean, it's got to be both. Right. I mean if I had to. Pick one of the two because there's such a full off. Right. I don't know Corp. Aqap skis their their their backup goaltender. That's obviously not somebody. I think you're building around. You're gonna go find another goaltender, but Pinera n- is Panara is such a good player. It's really point David because I think there are package deal. Anyway, I think if you convince won the stay the other will stay with the agents situation, but God panorama so good. So I would probably say Panara, and if I put a gun to my head. They're a Robert says ironically tonight is probably the most crucial game for Rangers. This year of stars win. Rangers will have three first round picks in two thousand nineteen. That's right because of the zuccarello deal if Dallas made it to the conference final another pick. They would have got another first round pick it Dallas one but Dallas didn't win. So. Yeah. That'd be something to grab that third. First round pick a team, that's clearly rebuilding. So a lot of ranger fans need to pay attention to tonight's game. I think you're gonna see a lot of people that arrange your fans watching that game tonight with great anticipation and rooting for the stars. Plus Zubi great story to see him in the conference final. John says what are your thoughts on lung Quist comments about the uncertainty of ending his career with the Rangers? Does this lead way into a possible trade situation or is it just causing? Unrealistic speculation will Larry Brooks talked to him. There was a there was an article from Sweden where he said he could see himself finishing his career somewhere other than New York. But then he talked to Larry Brooks and kind of refuted that and said he has no intention of leaving. Here's the elephant in the room. John his contract is up in two years. All right. So Hank may wanna finish his career with the Rangers. It may not be up to him. Because when those two years are over, and he's thirty seven years old and some of these young kids that are expected to be the next generation of goaltender for the Rangers your given and the Russian who they just signed to a contract, they're probably going to be ready to play. And if so when this contract is up, I'm not sure the Rangers are going to want to resign him because I think these guys are gonna be ready to play sixty seventy games year. So there's a possibility he'll be a free agent. If he wants to continue to play it's probably going to be elsewhere. So I don't look at it as well. The Rangers will probably trade him. I think the Rangers wanna keep him for the length of his contr. Tracked until these kids are ready. And then when his contract is up he'll make a decision by then he would have won over five hundred games. I would think because he's what you know, fifty one away from five hundred. So I would think over the next couple of years barring injury. He'd have it outstanding shot at that. I know he wants to win a Stanley Cup. But I'm not really sure it's going to be up to him. I don't I really don't know how the Rangers re-sign him after these two years are over with the talent. They already have signed under contract in the minor leagues and Wicky or give already on their roster. I would think he would probably have to think about going somewhere else. A lot of people talking about the bad. Call on the McEvoy. I agree that was a bad. Call should have been a major Kevin reiterates. He says, hi, hey, NHL way to blow that call in the Columbus. Boston game that's a game conduct and putting a guys future on the line. Mcevoy should be in the locker room for good. Listen, I agree. Now. I don't know if it affected the outcome of the game. Because there were so bad on the power play. But you would like to see the major and plus mcevoy's pretty important. So he would have been gone for the rest of the game. And this is not going to make anybody happy. I would fully expect McEvoy to be suspended for game one of the conference final. But that benefits the hurricanes that does no good for the blue jackets because then not playing in the game for sure. Tan March Shelby says the line. You were thinking of was the BBC line. Not the CBC line the line of Battaglia Brindamour and Cole. That's why we couldn't figure it out. Thank you. That was from the podcast yesterday. I remember cover in that series. And for some reason CBC was in my head because a Canada b right? The BBC line because Battaglia was second in points on the two thousand and two hurricanes team. And of course, rod Brindamour is killing it as the head coach with the Carolina Hurricanes, and they're the hurricane said who would have thought with all the talent. And all the stories that would be the hurricane to be sitting there waiting for everybody else to get ready for the conference finals a good job out of all those teams. So the east is done. We've got Boston and Carolina the west will be settled by tomorrow. We've got a couple of game seven's a game seven tonight. We've got a game seven tomorrow. So we had three game sevens. In the first round two game sevens here on the second round. So that's not bad five game sevens or ratty through the first two rounds of the plow. So eight o'clock tonight eastern time NBC sports net. 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Legendary Teachers: Freddie Gruber with Bruce Becker

Drum History

1:01:49 hr | 9 months ago

Legendary Teachers: Freddie Gruber with Bruce Becker

"Look the drum history podcast. I am your spark vendors z. And today i am joined by educator and performer. Bruce becker bruce welcome to the show. Thank you bar. Thanks for having me good to be here absolutely first off. You're kind of a legend in your own right but we're talking about Today particularly we're talking about The great freddie gruber who you took lessons with for think he said about seven and a half eight ish years Boy freddie is a legend. I got you know became aware of them. I think in my you know when i was younger because of you hear about neil peer Taking lessons with someone at blue. Everyone's mind But there's a lot more to freddie than that. yes yes absolutely. Yeah but yes so Why don't we obviously. Let's talk about your lessons with him a little bit. But why don't we start. And of course. I think at some point we're gonna hear about your amazing career as well but why don't we talk a little bit about freddie as a person because i don't know much about him. I think it's a little bit Allusive away of what's actually going on and So yeah who is freddie gruber. That's a great question who was. And who is freddie. Gruber you know. A freddie being born in new york and being around that period of time with their jazz was the thing and that ever present art as well as the growing nature of all fat music pretty was around that and he was around a lot of those great guys. You know I have that classic photo of of freddie and buddy that was i think back in nineteen forty six so freddie would have been about nineteen and they're sitting on the back of a wooden share. Buddy was sticks freddie kinda hanging with his arms down. Cross-legged look a little cocky. As freddie was he was a very. Let's say a very different kind of a guy as people who knew him would attest to his line that buddy rich gave him was your none of a kind. You know not a one of a kind but none of a kind it. So i think as youth spent in new york brought him a great deal of exposure to all that music and he was addicted. He wanted to play the drums. I know that one story was that. His father was not on board with that and He had basically left tall. I think at sixteen and a bumped into a pianist by the name of joseph rigor and as i recall the story as was laid out to me. From freddie joe springer was a pianist who had played with young billie holiday. And i guess he saw freddie on a bench is the story and again. It's hard to say you know. Freddie had an imaginative storytelling mode. But he said that. The joe saw on a park bench somewhere and said hey kid because he had drumsticks. Can you play those things he said. Yeah alright so he kind of took him under his wing. I guess for a little period of time and again. According to freddie he would get a chance to sit in with billie holiday at the end of the night and play some brushes on the bandstand with joe. And so that's you know. That's an story and i guess freddie would have been about sixteen or so there's other stories where there was some I can't remember the name of the magazine an Like a jazz rag and the article was the shape of jazz are shape of drums to come and that was an article about freddie and they were talking about. Oh keep an eye. On freddie now. Let's segue to another story about that period. Of time. From jimmy shaping who told me numerous times about how we saw freddie play when he was a kid. And it's it's sort of a duality of story. He said. I never saw anybody play like that. It was very poly rhythmic. Freddie was ahead of his time so that being said the other side of what she would say and again. This is jimmy telomeres. I just want to put this out there. Jimmy would tell me. Freddie couldn't play for quarter notes in a row so it's hard to say as to what freddie's background was in terms of those earlier days and how he was able to kind of get into the music scene if he was such a Progressive player so to speak. You know think about the time. If you're in the mid forties or whatever and late forties everything was just swing and pop it in jumping so i would imagine that he had some of those sensibilities but again. There's no documentation of exactly what he did. in terms of recordings and it was all left to my relationship with ready to hear the stories about where he'd come from it. You gotta be careful with that to some degree. Which i'm sure most of it was true but i mean again. I grew up with my grandpa being drummer. And kind of getting me into it and the stories. I feel like with older guys. There is a bit of a tall tales. Kind of Thing where you need to take some of it. Yeah i know what you're saying where it's like. I'm not a hundred percent. Sure if this was exactly a well by okay so you know and also my my My understanding and knowledge of that my insight into freddie would be basically vested into my relationship with him where i would be with him at a particular event and when i heard the retelling of that event or story i'd be sitting in scratching my head and go win. Best sounds vaguely familiar. And i go wait a minute. That's not how that went down so again. I i don't know. But i do know that freddie had had allegedly has said that he hung with philly joe jones in those period of times and they were practising quite a bit This was a time. I think when philly had lost his cabaret card that which he needed to be able to work in the clubs and You know i guess at that time. Just looking back at how he Assimilated things and was putting together. You know what became. His educational process was based on all his activity of hanging with people and watching them. I must say it was. He had an amazing ear. He was an amazing listener And he was able to really dial in to what was going on with people. Conceptually so i think you know as he was there kind of not running in the right crowd so to speak because you know he was basically getting into junk at that time. I think that was the main reason he left. New york was to get out of there and stay alive and be healthy. Which of course. That didn't really happen. Because we moved to los angeles he got kinda again involved in junk and took him a while to get cleaned up as well but So so yeah so going back to like getting his whole educational thing together. I think again he was a masterful. Observer communicator Let's just say he had a very cryptic way of putting out information. That was where i came in. I was really having to Take and pick his words and kind of get meaning to them because a lot of stuff that he would say was quite cryptic and it would take you. You know maybe a year later you go. Oh that's what he meant. You know so now. What year So television what year you started lessons With ice started when i was about eighteen. Nineteen seventy seven and so that period of time he was at the. I think what i look back and just from all my interactions. Because i was quite close with freddie i was on that you know. Innermost circle of freddie's world That was his greatest teaching point. Because he had this little house that he had lived in and he added dialed in pretty well. And i say for freddie because freddie was notoriously late and he kinda ran on freddie time you could show up for lesson at Four in the afternoon that be like two or three guys backed up and you go. Women thought adolescent at four. Right now no no no go. God run run down to the to the seafood. Broiler from aws. Do all these tasks you know. He'd have very specific things like when you go to the bakery man. Give me the rolls with the sesame seeds. Poppy seeds man. You got stuck in my teeth. It would be a whole a whole thing and if you didn't follow directions my goodness you got the riot. Act read to you. You know he'd never ever let you like off the hook on that stuff so canetti give you give you you know like let's say just as an he'd go. It's four dollars and seventy two cents. Bring me the change and give you a five dollar bill. You know he'd know exactly how much it cost all those little details and so anyway. So my study started in seventy seven and i went fairly straight until about eighty four and in that time i was kind of you know in this in this stage i was. I was pretty quick to respond to what he gave me. And i really was enamored with his approach at that time so we had a good relationship. I think he really You took me a little bit under his wing. And then he would showcase two guys which i hate it because i didn't i felt i didn't know what i was doing but i look back. I go movement wise and in terms of presenting the technical approach i saw. Oh i did get that you know your your heads in another place. Sometimes when you're thinking more about music not just the technique and that was my biggest aspiration was to really formulate better musical skills which i was working diligently but the technique thing kind of came. I don't want to say but i did. My work really put in my time to to get that stuff together. So it showcase me really. You know kind of freaked me out later on. He did that all the time when i was hanging with him later in the eighties. But i just wanted to throw back that. Now with freddie with the junk thing junk thing Escaping new york had coming out to los angeles. I think it was somewhere in the mid sixty sixty six or sixty seven the great vibes. Terry gibbs had a music store with a great drummer by the name of mel zell. Nick and mel zanuck had done like some you know nbc orchestra stuff out here in los angeles also was a drummer with the benny goodman sextet. If i'm not mistaken. And they opened a store and freddie and terry knew each other from the new york days and and freddie looked up to terry quite a bit because i guess terry was kind of a little bit older. Just had that more of a father figure and he basically took freddie and said look at. Clean yourself up. And i'll give you a job teaching. So freddie started teaching at the music stop. I think he had already had a little. You know Maybe a few students earlier on. But i think that would be a marking point where he really started hits dried and he had a lot of guys. That came rod links. So guys like mike baird. I don't think mike was an earlier student. Don lombardi was in early student. Fridays john hernandez for mike go boy. Go burleigh drummond from ambrosia There was a drummer that played with john davidson by the name of joey. That was the talk of of my lessons. When i came in because joey was like this very successful guy with john. Davidson and freddie would always bring up. Joey joey harrick man so good the previous version of like he'd showcase in then you took over but i also want to say that like it. It's interesting the obvious. You know the the the drug problems and stuff. It's just it's seems so like. I don't wanna say cinematic. But like that era of like the fifties and the jazz guy is and you like maybe famously like miles davis or something these guys getting mixed up with like heroin and it's It's terrible but it would seem so like common. You just of jazz in the fifties and these these these you know getting into drugs and such a problem and iran. You're getting pulled out of it. And i'll give you job if you clean yourself up. I mean yet for him though for you know. I'm sure it wasn't overnight. Obviously but for pulling himself you know out of that and no absolutely and and that's where he started to kinda his thing together and start a position himself in the la area as a teacher of renowned. You know by the time. I got there. He already established himself those years before and there were a great deal of people. I had several people who tell me you should. If you really want to get your your skills together you gotta go into freddie gruber. One of those guys was mel zelic from the music. Stop in. it's interesting because mel did not like freddy. I found later on. Because i actually worked at the music stops starting my teaching career. I always date my teaching career starting at eighty two. Because that's when i took over the music stop. But i was teaching a little bit before that. But it's just ironic that that's freddie. Kinda started his of teaching. And i was at the music stop. Melwood was say to me. You have you wanna get stuff together at the Gravelly voice and he'd say you want to get your stuff together go to freddie gruber and but as i was teaching for mel i found out that he was always bugged by freddie and he didn't you know when freddie was working there as a teacher. He was always yelling at him. So it was like one of those things. Where i guess. Freddie's results. And and what he was doing. We're highly respected by now. But the way for anyone about it in terms of his character was not looked upon so greatly so like it seems like a strong personality to say the least But i'd like to hear maybe wall. Were you know in that seventies eighties era. Yes what your lessons first of all right. So how would you describe. The freddie gruber technique collect what is it and then maybe a little bit about like you come in. You know literally walking in the door too when you leave. Obviously we know it would be super late and you'd be bringing in a you know. A sandwich are bird. Yes so was it. Like you know what i mean like. We're going to drum set ruined bad. No you're on his old ludwig drum set yet. This cool old kind of a dark. Mahogany stained Actually it was kind of like an oil finished. there was no lacquer on it. A ludwig drum set calf skins on the bass drum remo embassador on the tom but everything had the old remo A practice pads and those are the metal ones not plastic ones the little kind of ridge that emulated a drum hoop. And then you sit down. Of course the first thing he said was played for me. And you know you'd play in about thirty seconds or maybe a minute into it. He'd get you know. Get a fair evaluation of where you're coming from. It's not that difficult. I understand how that works in my teaching and then he would just can't tear you apart. He would just got. Jesus christ man did start. Just go you're gonna kill yourself. Or what the hell was that you know and so you know he kind of bring you down while i was eighteen at the time so bringing me down was probably not too difficult because at eighteen you know you don't maybe have a lot of confidence and you get presents. Have a guy that you're you've been told is like the guy to go to your basically a feeling pretty pretty bruised but anyway so lesson would entail. Might early lessons. Were because i lived in woodland hills in freddie lifted tarzana. That's about. I don't know about a twelve minute drive so he'd always say you're in the neighborhood man you know. So he'd get me there on mondays at i think new and he usually was coming in from somewhere off from the weekend because i'd show up sometimes at noon and he wasn't there and then he drive in his firebird kinda out of breath. Come on man. Dr a throw go. Go go sit down on the drums. I'll be right there. And then he'd start to pour himself a bowl of all brand and slice up bananas and sit with you and so you know of course scheduling wise. You're saying it's supposed to be in our lesson. Well most lessons were maybe twenty two minutes you know. And that's just how he ran. And then in the middle of my lesson. There'd be this guide now. At that time there was a guy can't think of his name his name louis b but he was a show drummer and he would show up. He was in his fifties and he wanted to get better on the on the trap kit. He was mostly a percussionist for shows. Whatever shows were in town in los angeles area and so each show up. And i'd still be doing then freddy will go. Hey hey come on man. I want you to watch the plant and i do my thing but so that was kind of my might early studies at first year or so as my schedule started to change and get those evening slots that would be more like the lesson would be seven. I'd show up at seven and there were three guys sitting on the couch and there was a guy on the drum set. I was like tolerant of that. Many people weren't. I'll tell you who wasn't tolerant. My girlfriend at the time she tells you she'd say she'd give me the riot act. This is this lady was a funny lady. When i think back to that that period in my life she'd go you tell freddie gruber that your lessons at seven o'clock go on the telling freddie anything showing up by lesson and when it ends it ends you know so then that was again that would be the time where if i showed up at seven he got like i haven't eaten all day and so for me because i was one of those guys who is very precise about stuff. Once he told me gave me direction to do something or pick something up. There was no question he go and tell me. So you know like al qaeda. Sure you got and i raised my eyebrows. Go like freddie who you're talking to you know and so. He knew that i was a dependable ladd and would get the order right. You know. I'll the time i'll tell you a funny story though about the browbeating. Maybe i don't know so maybe a year and a half into it. And i was you know my brother had just started playing guitar and was getting into the jazz guitar so he traded in his les paul for an espn seventy five for those of you know. That's a hollow body guitar jazz box. Kind of like what. Wes montgomery teeny in all those great guys. We play and so my brother was very determined. He was going to be a composer and and do stuff. So we were starting to get you know kinda get our little groove together and do some stuff. Then i was probably nineteen. Maybe twenty at that point. Now it's like you know nervous guy. I'm reading out like yeah. You know. I really wanna play with my brother and i i you know i wanna jazz guy and i wanna get my stuff together and record records you know. I'm just like nervously chattering. Freddie's looking at me and he's like just doesn't look like he's feeling well and he didn't say anything which was peculiar for freddie and there's nobody else there which was very odd because this was Maybe a late afternoon lesson and he looked over. He was sitting at his table Breakfast table a down like a little bottle of of some medication. You open it up. You know just took. Its while the water. Put it down. And i'm still going on with my and i want you know i want to do this to do that. And and Freddie eventually picks up that body like maybe about a minute later and he looks at the label on it and his eyes bug out he goes. Jesus christ man yet yet. You may be take the wrong medication. I don't buy gotta call the diet. He just started freaking out on me. Oh boy right. So i'm losing. I'm going oh my god. I'm sorry you know. I didn't know what you know. And so this was one of those times where it must have been. I don't know could have been for two months following every time somebody would come in when i was saying. This is the guy that almost killed me. So it's care to character like absolutely freddie. Was the most interesting guy. I lived with him. I traveled with him all through europe. When i lived over there. He came to visit me several trips where we did some clinics together and i brought him around to the frankfurt music fair and we would stay in this little hotel outside of frankfurt that Some my cousin in germany had and we'd make it our little home base or sometimes we'd go back to my apartment in belgium and we would stay there for a few days before we were venturing out to somewhere else and it was really challenging because freddie was a handful to take care of but at the same time you know there was some golden moments of being able to look. This was in the nineties. Mind you so when. I look back and i was able to kind of get a a little more distance from what i worked on. I'd have really really pointed questions for him now again. He was not always the best to answer he'd get kinda cryptic but when you had him up at like three in the morning. Because freddie was his night out he'd get very animated and he could give you some just kind of cryptic analyses. And you go. Yeah yeah yeah. I think i got it and then you. I've kinda like work. It out where. I figured out exactly what he was talking to how he was laying out to me talking to meet you kind of put it in a more conceptual base right. You go okay. Now i can articulate that a little bit better. That was the the the the point where i really started to work on the narrative to how to teach and take the concepts that i had gotten from him not. I didn't just get stuff from freddie. There's other people that played into my teaching role but it was really just fascinating to hang with him. I'll tell you. Just here's another story because we're talking freddie. We wanted to end the fred talk. Show talk yeah so this is a long story but making sure so again around that same period of time. I was doing that same rap. I probably did that a few times. It probably drove freddie nuts. Where i was like guide. I what i wanna do this. You know and try to stay by goals again. There was nobody there and at one point. He just reached over to his Phonograph player pulled out a record laid down. Put the stylus on the album. It was john abercrombie's timeless records. So they i tune israel frenetic and jackie's with theon hammer on be three oregon. And i'd never heard anything like that. It was like a wickedly. Fast tempo like the but benedetta did it. Just super fast and i stopped because he put the record on and i was speechless. And maybe about two and a half minutes after listening to the record he pulled the needle often he looked at me and i just remember i was dumbfounded by what he said he said. Giving those guys are trying to make money man and i went I don't know so okay fast. Forward here. I am in two thousand six at the latvian. The cell crusty jazz festival with my brother and the featured act was john abercrombie with atom news bound and gary for space and my brother knows john loosely or knew him when he was alive and i admit atom a few times to hung with them pretty extensively frankfurt a few years before and damaged said come on up. You wanna talk in me. John and talked at him. And i said i. I'm not sure. Fatima remember being as soon as i walked in and it was like big bear hug. Rose how you doing real friendly. Love is such a personable guy as well as a fantastic player and john abercrombie was sitting on the chair just completely sunk in a toasted from their travels. I guess they had a hard traveled to get up to latvia. And so i told him that exact story and at the end of that story he looked up at any very seriously said so matter of fact we were trying to make money so i a year later or so. I'm at the namm. Show now these times in the two thousands freddie and i you know i kind of pulled away from freddie and it really bugged him and it was not the cleanest breaks and he was just pissed at me so whenever i would go and visit i bring my brother of buffer at the namm show. You'd always see freddy around. Because he'd be there he don't get of course he gets like four in the afternoon or five right before it shuts down and then they'd have to kick them out but anyway so i had his attention from it and he was kinda Unnerved that i was talking to him. But i said freddie i gotta tell you a story so i laid out beginning story about when he put the record on for me. I told them the part about where. I saw john abercrombie and when i hit that market said and john said to me well as a matter of fact we were trying to make money. Freddie looked at me went. Oh back in the cow. To oh my god so these were these were the trials and tribulations of hang with freddie but i did. I must say that we had some riotous laughing in germany. I mean and what. I traveled with them as well when i was at his house. I was the go-to guy was the guy who house sat for him. I was the only guy. He left the key to open the drummer room. He would not allow that room in that house john yet he had a door that was entering the hallway where the bathroom was in two bedrooms and that door had a lock in each bedroom door lock and whenever i would house it for him which i did many times i'd say freddy i want the drums key so i can go into practice and he got. I did relent. But i know nobody ever got that privilege like an otter to have his trust again like i said he saw me as a very trustworthy ladd. Who as he would say you say what you play and play with you say becker you know man which speaks to your character. Obviously because i mean everyone listening can tell your great guy. But when when someone i was thinking like if you have a boss or something at work just you know. Everyone's kinda like he. Just whatever you do just someone above you. Who isn't a nice person not night. Not the phrase on a nice person but they respect you and they're nice to you. It feels better. You know what i mean. it goes further. When you you impress someone who's a tough critic of of who's a little bit cynical of everything like yeah. It's next to your character and there were things like about freddie that you knew that he just didn't do for other people and again reflecting back. I know that he had a high regard for me. So the breaking period was just as he got older He didn't care so much like his teaching career had slowly slipped away but he had money so it didn't really matter he was well taken care of and it seemed to me he was more in in involved in trying to just keep his legacy and being that that eccentric character. And kinda amplifying it so that it became even larger because anything that you would see or hear from people now especially those last you know. Eleven or twelve years of his life from ninety nine to two thousand eleven. You'd go. oh yeah like it was like it was like a caricature of what he was trying to. I think he had the line as i recall. I don't care whether you love your hate me. I want you to know who. I am was the kind of the line so to speak and And that was that was good. I i think that he had a more things involved In terms of what he could have brought forward he lived his life how he wanted to so i have no you know right to say anything regarding that. But as his teaching declined an i had moved back to la. I found myself in his clutches for the wrong side of things and i was looking after him quite a bit and i realized that as his health started to you know it wasn't declining but his choices were declining so he wanted to get high again and i think nothing more was like he just wanted to kind of be like a high buddy with You know to devastating roads. I could either be dead or in jail. And i said i gotta get outta here and you know it was not a pleasant leading and when when when i left. He was mad at me for years. I'd have to go over with my brother. Like i said earlier to make pilgrimage and i just wanted to go freddie i just wanna honor the twenty three years or so that we hung because we had some great rip roaring times and it would take them all about it. Maybe an hour an hour and a half if we sat at the house before he would just kind of go to relax posture and then be talking to be as if we talked the day. Before you know the first thing would be. We'd knock on the door and he'd see my brother david give a big hug and then he'd look at me raises eyebrow dropping glasses and go. Hey man god that's so funny a character. Oh he was amazing. I mean in terms of that. I i don't there's other people have stores. I have so many stories of of freddie that i could go on for forever i i should really try to chart them out. Here's a little freddie's character. When we were in europe it was very challenging for him. Because as you know people well maybe you don't know but people in the netherlands and people in the flemish part of belgium. All speak english pretty well but they're not. It's not their native language. And the first trip that freddie made to to visit me which was funny i moved in in may of ninety two and freddie was like freaking out that i was leaving. He was like you know really want to go. You know all this dolphin what. I assessed after. That was no. You don't want me to go and the trip to much later. He was on my doorstep two months later and he didn't like to travel and and and lean upon anybody. But again i guess my reliability was was a factor in him trusting me that he made four trips over there and we hung quite extensively but he had a trip planned the first time he went there and he was really agitated about the cultural elements things and we were driving around quite a bit. We went down to austria. When went to germany. We were going to like. There was a school in vienna that i eventually taught at that was sort of after the musicians institute. And there was a story in frankfort a pretty big drum shop. We went there and we met like One of the drum magazine guys from the magsi drums and percussion. We went to the netherlands in met the guy who at the time was the dutch magazine. We also met a teacher who is not too far from where i lived in antwerp and we just kind of made the rounds and it was super agitated and at one point in the evening of may be the as day we were hanging out and we got a mellow. We got some half hash up there in the netherlands and we were smoking a little hash. And i put on bill evans explorations and we were just hanging in freddy. Got really relaxed and it was great because i knew i could get freddie sometimes into that zone and we were just chat about music and hanging and at the end like about one o'clock i go. I got to go to bed. Freddie so i showed him if there was a timer light on the hallway wall watch straight. There's the bathroom and on the other side with bathroom. Dora's on right outside that door there's another light to put the time light on and so he went to the bathroom. This probably maybe three in the morning he walked out and he didn't turn that light on. And when you walked out that bathroom you took three steps forward. There was a flight of stairs. Oh my ear. Eleven over a bar and those narrow stairs of of belgium and the netherlands kind of those a steep and narrow eddie foul man right down the stairs and so i heard this debt debt that and i woke up and my brother and i were sharing a room. And what what what. What the hell was that. And within one second year this cheese is christ damage and so my brother jumps out of bed. Runs flips light on. Looks at freddie's at the bottom of the stairs kind kinda coiled up thankfully all he did was dislocated shoulder man and so it was just unbelievable so i had to his trip that he had planned to do some other things. He was go to uk and go to london. Hang with the from ronnie scott's 'cause they booked buddy there all the time and he knew those guys and so he had to go to the hospital. he's in the back of an ambulance. I didn't want to be with them. Because i was freaking out too. I was driving a rental car that we had in. My brother was in the back of the ambulance with them. And he was squeezing my brothers. Handsome tight go. I don't wanna die. You know but all it was was a dislocated shoulder so we would bring him food because the hospital food was horrible and at one point he was telling us historian goes that nurse man. She doesn't know how to how to hit a vein at all. You know so. He's kind of talking up his heroin experiences. And he said. I wanted to grab the needle ladder. Hand jab it in my own si- for myself god. Anyway those those were the freddie trials and tribulations but again. When i look back either as things that i think about that he imparted to me. One piece of wisdom that i hold too i would say gratitude was even all say bros. Cover it up front man. Now you can look at that phrase and you can have a lot of meaning to it but it does envelope anything that you want to put forward whether it was think things through is what he would tell. Me really was by saying covered up front. You know no no the the whole range of what you're getting involved in so you really think it through. Sometimes that's not necessarily the best advice because it's good to fly by the seat of your pants and take chances as well. You don't wanna get too you know trapped by the thinking mode and remove yourself from that. Hey i'm just gonna go do this you know. And sometimes that's what it is what creativity is all about. I'm gonna do this and you just go with you know so but i still live by that Covered upfront in every action to varying degree. I do have a nice balance. being you know. Taking chances. I used to travel to europe quite a bit. Do a lot of workshops. Ibook them on my own and by cover it up front. Was i had a little bank account over in europe. I had several friends if anything ever fell through the floor. I'd have a nice three week vacation in europe but thankfully nothing ever happened like that. I was able to work with the right people who honored their word and made things happen so sure. Well that's a great because before when you when you were saying he would say sort of cryptic things. I was thinking. What does that mean but saint covered up front. I mean that's that's something we're like. I bet you'd be in multiple situations and you just go. Oh that could be that too. It's a man of. He sounds very very deep but like in certain elements of his personality. It's a little bit more not so deep more like oh that's freddy that's what you get but you know you'd have to talk to you. Know i had a great deal of of conversations with people. And i think they would come to the same agreement of if i talked to steve smith before about it and i think he would have somewhat of the same telling or if You know peter's can tell me about his story with trying to study with freddie and and freddie said something to him that just clicked. You know it was just like he did like a dance step. At which freddie had this certain danstett he would always do and it made sense to what peter was seeking and searching and so it really opened up peter's head to kind of validate what he was where what path. He was on ant at what he wanted from. Freddie now for for some guys that may have been again like a cryptic or an elusive analogy but for a bright insightful. Guy like peter. It was very clear you know. But he did have to chase. He like everybody else. Had to chase down freddie. You'd think that that you know that he would be a little different around. Those people like the guys that were like of of higher status neo pure. No he was the same deal after his You know tragedy with his wife and his daughter at that. Time spent some time in that back room that i used to lay into that room when i was house sitting for freddie now. I didn't get a chance to meet kneel. At that time i was there at those periods that that's when i was still hanging with ready so but i think freddie would have honored neal's anonymity at that time and not want anybody to bug him so he probably would have You know not said anything. Maybe i come over. He might not have said anybody's in the back room sleeping or anything like that or might have just said like now now not not today man. I'm i'm busy. Yeah that some neal's situation was obviously so tragic. Where in in a short period of time he lost so people know obviously he launched his wife and his daughter and the within within a year. Yeah unbelievable but yeah. That's all right so that's a perfect transition to talk a little bit about freddie gruber as this teacher of guys like obviously you but you know you're a long long longtime teacher friend like his number one guy but i'm talking like vinnie. Neil steve smith dave wacko. As you said peter roskin. Okay i was there. For two of steve smith lessons. But here's how it would play. I would show up and friday. Go sit down and play so one of the things in it took me. I think it was after the time. That played for dave wackle and it was probably ninety four and i didn't want to go over to play for dave. I was like i flown in from europe. I was still living over there. And i called freddie up or maybe he called me and he said bros what are you doing. I said i'm jetlag up just to go to sleep because no no no no. No i want you to come over. David david so i like who the hell is. David and freddie riley respond. Wack who do you think. And i'm like well. How do i know dave. I never heard of david davis far as i know freddy badgered be and i relented. I went down there and driving down ventura boulevard. I'm thinking like what the hell am. I gonna play for this guy. So when i sat down and played just did thing and my loose jazz between the time. Shuffle and kind of swigging and planes some figures and day was very kind and very friendly about a man. Sounds great and blah blah blah. We had a nice little chat and we kinda hung and we were like all sitting there for a minute and then freddy would go all right man but leave and so funny. You didn't get a chance to hear the phraseology. That freddie would use to color the imagine of day even exactly what he was doing i can understand bits and pieces of what he what he did with dave just by watching dave play but i've never had in depth conversations. Same steve i. I was there for two lessons. With steve smith at the same rundown. But there are many other guys. I watched him teach so that period of time between post student. While you watch them. Because you'd be sitting there anyway. Sometimes way back at the old house but would he moved into the other house that he that he remained till he passed I was there as subtypes caretaker. Looking over freddie. Because i call them up. And i'd have you know time off when i was in on the road. You go what are you doing. I said nothing he goes. Come on over. I said what are you doing. Goes lacking come on over. So i'd hang and watch him like about five guys. Sit on the floor and at that time in the nineties. His presentation had broken away from any books. When i studied with him in the seventies he was very meticulous about using literature from the buddy rich book. From the roy. Burns lou mallon book finger control For ted read sick patient there was a little cool rock book that we worked from that. Was you know again. He rewrote everything. I say. In other words he would supply the conceptual approach to as to how we were going to go through that and this one little rock was like at a ten page book. It's called seventy two modern rock and roll rock-n-roll patterns and it doesn't exist anymore. But he broke it down and we. We implement the base from technique that we were involved in. We'd implement the approach to the symbol whether it was the push pull or whether it was like laying out like an more molar thing which he didn't call it. Molar i later found out through dom family. Laura that freddie and study with joe morello. And i didn't know this via jimmy chapin that freddie study with so going back to my earlier statement about freddie being a master observer of people in what they do i think he was an excellent guy who collected data and was able to put it into his fall. Now mind you. He didn't really intimate where he got the stuff. So like for the push pull technique. He called it the system. I never asked him. Why the hell did you call the system. I didn't. I didn't think that he didn't call it molar. He just called the whip snap motion and so we would implement those in. You know go through meant so much material. I have you know like a pretty big stack of books. That i went through and when i was watching him teach as the eighties ruled on into the nineties. It became less by the time. The nineties rolled around. There was like no books. It was more posture gesture in getting guys to do certain things in conceptual stuff and many guys not many. But there's guys who studied at that period of time. Who had come to me. One notable was daniel glass daniel. I remember like just perplexed. Like i don't really get what what what he was saying. So danny steady with me. A little bit at that time in late nineties when i was still hanging with freddie and then around two thousand six or seven daniels study with me for a good couple of years or so and i was able to really kind of expound on a lot of stuff and expound i say you know my interpretations are brought from playing music and from As well as doing sessions and stuff like that so i was able to bring those things to a more real world framework for people but in in those nineties periods. Like you know. I remember being there for a lesson for treason boden Steve houten A young joey warnaco was there on those afternoons. When i was there back when i wasn't studying so back in the mid to late eighties and again. His approach was a little book oriented but less book oriented and it was hard to assess. Because i can't remember the details. I do remember certain details or was this one crazy drummer. Who was like really ultimately talented in any kind of poly rhythmic playing super in his vernacular to just pull that stuff out and he was a wacky kid but he played just go. my god. This guy is ridiculous what he can do. It just didn't have a user friendly personality to get into work mode. And i know that in that specific situation freddie had gone through what i went through as well as this knicks sorolla book it was called Independence volume one but freddie had again a very unique way of doing stuff so any literature that you would see from freddie would always have a very pointed interpretation as to what you were to do and what we would match your needs as he would say. Okay you need to work on this. Take this book and work through this. Obviously but yes essentially. Yeah there was some there was always a personalized element to it. So things could look similar to other guys. Because i had a recently in the last. I haven't seen him now. Maybe about a year a year or so in terms of studying with the but a guy who came a little bit after me about maybe eight or ten months after me was this guy david bronson and david plagued with the righteous brothers for twenty something years and now he's now he's the product manager for example minute and david came to me because he studied with freddie i short period of time maybe about a year year and a half and i got commend david. He was the guy who stayed with in the last as a friend who's life which probably was no picnic and not an easy thing to do and david a very tolerant but also very Let's say stand in. his own. Shoes is not going to waffle. so can i would give him any grief. Dave go all right freddy. I'll just leave that. You know or whatever but anyway bronson came to me to get some clarity on some of the things that we had worked on and so you know going through what he had in. His books was very similar to me. But again there was a personalization to kinda help build and formulate your musical direction with what you wanna do. It's exactly how i would keep my ears. Appeal to what my students are about. You know i've been very blessed to have some guys like david garibaldi. Interest in bone is a student of mine. Brian head who plagued with Roger hodgson or plays with still of course. Nobody's doing any gigs at many guys. They got that the guy who plays with Semi sonic jake selectors student by a gabe ford. Who played with little feat for many years. daniel glass considered i had Cameras come out. I just say this. I've given Some tutelage tutelage or just some conceptual conversation with joe joe mayor about his lessons with freddie to break down foot stuff. You know so. That i'd say more of a consultation but while you know it's it's just you're carrying it on though where like Where these i mean. Everyone you're naming yourself included like you guys are all. This whole group is like mega drummers. Let's be real. They're famous top level drummers. And it's just like this super cool thing that a lot of times maybe non drummers or younger earlier on drummers don't really realize that the learning and the education never stops and i think obviously with ready like and it it probably translates onto you and i think now it's more common where people Just i don't know it's easier to find a good teacher such as yourself but where did people get. This did word of mouth about freddie. Oh yes bread. Is that how these super drummers would find him is just through word of mouth. Yeah i mean another another guy that i heard. Freddie's name from was actually my my parents. Back in the mid seventies were involved in the dog show circuit they were showing alaskan malamute s- and there was a guy who is a regular fixture at i think mostly the southern california Shows who was a photographer and drummer. His name was eddie ruben. He had played with neil diamond in the in the early portion of meals career. I think in the late sixties and My mother was you know. Always talking about her. Son's now i i've done this imitation of my mom before but it's not my mom my mom's done so she's got a thick dot jackson she say. Oh by boise play drive. My one son plays guitar plays drums. And eddie ruben say you got your sunshine study with freddie gruber so i heard that from my mother and again I heard it from melnik before. I studied with freddie and My friend mark showman. I were talking about dead at the time. Because that's about the period of time. Mark and i became more friendly with one another. He was a little bit younger and he was a young talented whippersnapper. And i was a little bit headed like. Who's this young kid. But as we grew up just in those high school years i became a little more friendly with him and he was saying. Yeah there's this guy freddie gruber but you don't want to bother with him. You should go to this guy who was a student and this guy. Was this guy by the name of rich sandak who i study with a little bit as a appre freddie insight as to what freddie did and rich did a great job i i liked the way tot think i studied with rich for very short time because as i recall and this might this is validated by my brother. David i called up freddie and the first time i spoke to him on the phone he was. You know running through the mail so okay how old he and i said well. I'm eighteen. Because i really don't teach kids who you're working with and i said houma. Who am. i work with a kid in school. You know and well. I don't know i'm really booked up. Maybe call me next week. So what he was doing. Just kind of get gathering. Are you going to be serious. And follow through. And so because he was so kind of run me through the mill. Got agitated and i just said all right man well whatever. I'll call you back a later date you know. And so once. I went through the series of lessons with rich. And i felt like i get this whole thing right. Cool my brother alleges. now. I don't remember this specifically but he was there he said picked up the phone and freddie answer and i said freddie this is bruce becker. I'm ready that's awesome man. It's like karate or some exactly exactly so you know going back to the the whole the whole stream of consciousness here brady was an interesting dude. He had some some really great insights. I i know that there's a lot of people that out there in the drunk community didn't really get wh what he was about. And it's very Elusive as to what information is out there. Those who who around him would be able to attach to what he was able to do. I think you know he's definitely somebody. That was a a a a great observer and a great assistance to a great deal of people. I mean when you watch dave Play you can. You can just see the the the great change. Dave evolved his post freddie studies. He's so fluid and just so demonstrative of the essence of what that's all about and so you have no greater What he would say. Like signpost of what what freddie was of you know. Now we can't dismiss dave's. Dave is a hard working guy. Who's super intelligent. Bright and inciteful and has very concrete goals that he's achieved. So but the the the bonding between the two really. Put it up to a level where you go like. Yeah there there it is. It was steve smith. I mean watched as smith from nineteen eighty five and then his studies would have been think ninety ninety one somewhere on that period eighty nine nine hundred ninety one and again you go look at look at the amount of fluidity that steve smith cheat. I mean it's just it's again it. It speaks volumes to what freddie was capable. There's many guys that we that maybe people don't know about for example early drummond from ambrosia or mike bear. You know who is assessing guy also was the follow up drummer to steve smith journey for for a period of time Did those classic. Billy idol cuts who else John hernandez from google. I mentioned these names earlier. But these guys that those guys had very poignant careers and did stuff that was great contributions to the music world and they were all you know. Kind of in there and and and facilitated or freddie help facilitate what their goals were and help to achieve that yeah it sounds like a club almost of guys like a fraternity. Almost where like you know. And i get that where an steve vedic was on the on the show and talked about his lessons with joe morello. It'd be a thing again. Where like and i've said this with other examples of teachers who are a little bit Their own person. Where where you you either like it or you hate it you either say. I'm ok to wait three hours or go. Do your do your errands which it was very similar with joe but Are not let me ask you. Because i'm sure you know. I'd like you said there's many many drummers he's he's taught but we is there any other neil pure information. Because i just think that's such an iconic thing where it put freddie. I know he was already on the map. But i'm talking about like you know how old name right because the the the cool thing what neil did was he really kind of you know took his platform and kind of lead freddie into that platform to be introduced to a myriad of people who would probably never know who freddie gruber was. Yeah and outside of that. I really don't know because again like at that period of time. So neil would have been studying more in that earlier nineties periods so somewhere that buddy rich tribute before his his tragedy with his wife and his his daughter and so i was in europe so on fortunately said never got a chance to meet neil. I was a huge fan. I was very lucky to have just just tripped into rush. By the fact that i went to a concert. December i nine hundred seventy six and rush. Was the opening act for ted nugent. Cool and they were traveling on the all the world's a stage record and my brother and i were already playing in our rock trio. Our idea we wanted to be a power trio and i saw these guys at my my hit the floor and i went. Oh my god. This is amazing. And so i was insufficient and i followed pretty steadily up until moving pictures i would listen to the hits that follow the radio hits it on loved the tunes. You know so whether it was time standstill. Or whatever like. I've lived in fact my kids that my two very young kids. I'm four and a half or well soon to be five year old boy and soon to be eight year old daughter. But i would go through especially when neil passed away in a a little bit more than a year ago i went through a whole is. I'm sure everybody did a whole. You know. Revamping of this stuff that i do and then also going back and listening to the things i didn't know but i wish i knew more about the relationship with neil and And freddie i just know that he was very respectful of freddie's teachings. Yeah hey at a high regard and he had a platform where he was able to bring freddie and allow ready to step forward even as cryptic kinda nuttiest freddie as and That was probably one of the greater attributes of freddie was able to kind of fall into again just for the for the recognition or the world stage platform. That neo brought him yet. From what i've seen and heard that neil. I believe really talked a lot about that. That fluidity like you mentioned that. Freddie could bring to him in the motion and the traditional grip. And you know it's a different world than the prog You know rush world but aren't so we're getting close to the end here and this is just like been unbelievable to get these firsthand experiences and we almost. It's like a the voice the voice of freddie that you get to use a sammy davis junior hint to it. I've been told i was once in frankfurt at a dinner with don lombardi and freddie many people may not know this but freddie was a part owner in dwi for many years and freddie always had this attitude against so we were the three of us. And freddie was there. I looked at don and i did like what am i. Freddie impressions and dodd like looked at me bright and he goes. That's the best ready i've ever heard mile. Okay so we're getting the real deal Pretty close channel a lot. I don't do it as often. But since we're on the the mona fred talk. It seems quite appropriate to bring that to light and kind of you know. Give freddie his do and give the tribute to him as what we're putting together here today. Yeah oh my gosh. That's so cool. Are we get close to the end. Here let's Well first off. Let's give a big shoutout to your student longtime listener of the show. Who has just been such a nice guy to me. steve hatfield. Who recommended you for this episode and really thank. God stuck on me to get it together. 'cause i should say to people that if you suggest an episode i always write them down or at least in the last year. I've gotten better about. I always write them down. Some of them take a long time to get to. But i have them all Written down but thank you to steve. Steve sees a great dude. Yeah well on that. Where can people find you lessons all that stuff. Are you giving online lessons. Let's talk about a little bit of week close out here. I'm on available online I'm you know. I have a healthy scheduled thankfully so with all the cove it my my lane of playing had slowly diminished over the last six years or so just by the landscape of who was working with and as my teaching started to really get larger and i have Two people to thank one would be drum channel. They sort of brought me up there for a couple of years in that started it. And then when i went to drum yo when off the hawks big thanks to jared falk and dan atkinson and all the people up drill but i'm available Bruce becker dot com is my website. You can follow me on facebook. I think it's bruce. Becker drums and i think on instagram bruce. Becker drums and i think on youtube. It's bruce becker. Drums pretty easy. And i'm not a guy who's you know social media nut because it's very challenging. I'm teaching every day. Pretty extensively and So it's it's hard to kind of keep up with that. But i do post stuff if you go to my youtube channel subscribe. You'll see some really great nuggets. Just be too redundant for although there is redundancy and what we all do and so those are the ways to get a hold of me. And if you're really serious about you know. I have a very detailed comprehensive way of breaking things up and making it into digestible. Bits and again that was brought forward by all my cryptic trying to really build into what freddie was really putting forward coupled with my teaching experiences were a lot of them were back in europe when i did clinics to people did not speak english as a first language so there you have to be very careful careful how you describe in put things forward so but a few serious and you wanna if you wanna change your game. That's what i do. I do it day in and day out. This is technically my thirty ninth year. But as i said dating back to nineteen eighty start started the music stop but i would teach a little longer than that so you got forty years of of teaching experience and insights that that are that. Are you know well-crafted now. The verbal ization of it is super simple to me. I see it like very easy. Little micro steps to get changes in everybody's playing that's awesome and and as you know as everyone knows you're never too old or too experienced or too young or anything to yakking lessons. A great a great deal of my students are in their fifties and sixties like. I said i had david garibaldi for a little over two years. He's in his seventies tristan. Boden is now. I think he'll be seventy coming this year And then several guys who are just you know guys who are out working a day job but they love to play and they get out there and gig on the weekend and they're all talented guys. You know they're just really looking at building up their game and numerous guys. We can talk to you. That would give you the the the What do you want to say the endorsement like yeah man is has been great so i just you know work real hard. I'm i'm not one who sits idly by tried to bring my a. Game every single time. I show up and i have like. I said progressive steps to make changes. That's awesome. So that's bruce. b. e. c. k. e. r. bruce becker dot com and Obviously you can tell by listening that bruce's a nice guy and we'll We'll take care of you. So bruce oh let me tell people that bruce is kind enough to hang out for another ten or fifteen minutes or so. And i think maybe we just talk about some more freddie stories and some Some fun more info about your your younger days and some some stuff about the lessons. So sure If you want more info And another little. Short episode with bruce It is a patriotic both episodes. You can go to drum history. Podcasts dot com and there's a patriot on button or i think it's patriotic dot com slash drum history. Podcast whatever works for you So on that note bruce. Thanks so much for being on the show and we will talk shortly for the bonus episode. Thank you very much barton. Take you for your contributions to the drum community and it was a pleasure to speak with you about freddie gruber. 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477: Sens Beat Flames 4-3; Everyone Has a Walter Gretzky Story/Memory; Tom Wilson's Rap Sheet Grows

The Steve Warne Project - Sports

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477: Sens Beat Flames 4-3; Everyone Has a Walter Gretzky Story/Memory; Tom Wilson's Rap Sheet Grows

"The steve worn projects sports. And whatever now. Panthers chance to win said works the ottawa senators have one three five. Against the calgary flames this season as they take it in a shootout four to three so there it is never in doubt sends blow at three one third period lead still manage to hold on for a four three shootout winning cowdrey. Hey steven jimmy back again. Little ottawa sports talk and schmoozing up with whatever showed store members. For you started rene brindamour jon stewart rodney film and will anderson martin pedal william read. Conrad dami ian boy. Graham ramstein and matthew from blackburn hamlet. If you'd like to become a member shout outs. Some other perks. Well find out. More at steve. W project dot com james. A new podcast week is upon us. I heard everything in the new one to go. Ju ju i was just asking how are things. I know where they are things. That's what happens or are we back on our way. Together yes happening. You're burning the midnight oil stevie mid idle because the sense play so i've been watching the games stevie as know because i tech straight line and watch the games i go back and forth and so i was watching both because i got to do this. A curling podcast. Right so the briars on so a picture in picture going or something. No i don't i don't know the split screen. I just flip back and forth. And it's in calgary by the way briar. So lots going on in calgary tonight so it was the big the big matchup of kui and gu Early in the bribe. No one cares however if you beat each other that means a lot when it comes to the at the end of the round robin if you're tied right you get the better record if you'd be so anyway. Anyway cou cou so. I'm with over to the game. And they got a couple of nothing. Stevie a couple of goals to nothing. I mean the stats way out there. Right there were. I don't know what their twenty three to two and attempts over the shots. I don't know how many shots is shots. Thirty four to twenty two. In favor of the calgary flames and the and the probably the third period might be the worst period. They've had all season. I don't i don't know but they probably had some bad periods but but they play bad but and end up winning the game. In the first two periods i mean justly speaking the first two periods were just fine. He just the third period they have a three one lead and being a young team they came out and decided well as trying to fend for twenty minutes and they told not to lose the game and they probably deserve to lose the game. It was funny at the endo. Because calgary got it to three three and they took. Ottawa took a penalty of one of by the way eight powerplays. They had on the night. Calgary did they went on one for eight in the power play and i thought that was their saving grace ironically enough once. The sends got shorthanded. Calgary was jong there. We go somehow. Some calgary became junk. They're all over ottawa. And then they take a penalty late when it's tied at three and they lost all momentum from that because their power play was so miserable night so right that that may have saved the game for the sends taking that penalty. Ironically enough well. I don't know what saved the gay. I- calgary just couldn't put it away. I guess but yeah it's like the it was just all bad. It was all bad in the in. The i've heard this before. And now i know i understand when people say it. They play even strength like they're on a penalty. Kill the third dead. Yeah yeah it just. It just seemed there no one. No one's you can tell they're nervous. No kelly rudy said you can. You can tell they're nervous you know that. They're playing nervous because guys are moving their feet very much right. They're trying to hold a position. They're looking around. A couple of guys are lost out there and i understood when you kinda when someone says that when you look for it you know you can see that guys. Twitchy that they're not. They're not repin for the pox you know. And they're trying to hold the position when really get the fucking a anyway. It was just sort of bad hockey. You're measuring at the third period. And so i'll measure it the full game and for i mean i i was i mean the way. They looked in the third period. I mean i. I was sure they were gonna lose. It just looked like it was building to that calgary at all the momentum and somehow someway they held on got it to the overtime which was an entertaining overtime. And then the end up winning the thing in the shootout with With drake bathrooms and scoring your game. When are we played that clip Right out of the gate but some some good things call in white as five goals in six games scored again tonight. Connor brown got a goal Blue wasn't a very good goal was a long shot. Deflected in between the pads and ryan zingo the second goal in as many games since Starting up his second go around with the ottawa. Senators had a nice goal for sure to open the scoring. So yeah it wasn't all bad but there are certainly glitchy moments and the third period was absolutely a team that was trying not to lose instead of attacking once. They got it to three three as a kid. Era your self. Fulfilling prophecy is now. Come true start attacking boys and get back and write us hockey game somewhat but yeah i think they were fortunate to come away with two points from that one and All pretty entertaining. It's tied tired. They look they look now. They got three games here in the next while they they. They're here tomorrow night And then they play every second day for three three games in a row. It's monday. it's monday wednesday friday. Just because you know we're recording this right so it's technically tonight is. The is the game in edmond. They're gonna be playing three. But then i mean the funny thing is you would thought would have all the energy because it was the flames. The played the night before not ottawa. Had the night off two nights off in fact out. Bathroom nifty hand. They're nice little move. Got pulled pulled the goalie all the way to was right and then top left corner there on the goalie tim they text. You put the german kid. Yup put the german in no no. It's going to be ca- chuck norris and someone else who said or whatever no no. It wasn't mean. I had no idea what order they'd go in. I see okay. Those are the three that i thought they would run with it. No it didn't surprise me at all. That stood guard. I what did surprise me that even use could shock could chuck in the last shoot. I the only had one other game where they had a shoot this year and could chuck was your first guy and this time it wasn't even in the top four so i thought that was unusual but a method to the madness at worked out. So all is good. So the sends win and Yeah like we say they're going to take on edmonton for three games. Which is not great news. Because they've been pretty much Well freight train by the oilers. Four others coming off getting whipped. What happens trump. Put it to the others right all right. So let's change gears a little on the weekend. And when you and i were together last we got The while the news of walter gretzky's passing right in the middle of the show and You had some wonderful stories a lot of people that sent me notes over the weekend wanting me to pass along condolences to you and It's phenomenal just when you look up and down The social media world and People you hear from like it seems like everybody is story or everybody had photo taken with walter gretzky. He took so many people didn't he well. I've had lots of time to and thanks a lot. People of of passed on messages to me like he was my own dad. Almost you know but But i found it tough fiat a great relationship and i do with the family. Is everyone knows. I talk about it enough but and i was close to walter for sure So there there were lots and lots of messages that people gave me a. Thanks a lot for those. I do appreciate it was a i. In fact i sort of enjoyed going through them through the grief of when this happened and thinking of wayne and gland roommate and brenton keith. Kim and and everybody else you know surrounded by the family a couple of things that you you know to to try and explain to someone what walter is like. I wrote him one of my put a few posts up at. I've always found it really difficult to try and put into words when something like this happens what someone means to because you're kind of breathless with china trying to capsulize stevie right you're trying to of course trying to put it in a sentence or two right and and i can only say everyone would have had the chance to meet him. You know one of the one of the things that really stands out about walter and you can tell everybody buddies post and i read a bunch of them. He's not the first celebrity in the world that people would be thankful that he signed an autographed and took a picture Lots do but everyone. That's not where it ends. Every single story of someone who met him said he asked me who my kids were he. He quoted some history. He sang a song he danced with me. He gave me a hug. He asked me what i did for a living. He asked me where i work. He asked me where i was born. He'd asked me if i've ever been to europe on and on and on and on one story after another about how he always did something extra and that's what. I took away from this weekend going. Yeah that's that's for sure you know on the other side was it. Made me think of people who haven't met him. I know what he means to me. Steve i know what he means to me. And it's a it's a lot right. Walter means a lot to me yet. But but then you have this whole other group of people who never met him. But you know who were completely endeared to walter gretzky over the years and canada's father and how great he was that he was the father of this of this prodigy. This kid how we handled that. And then this brain aneurysm that he had a nearly ninety s. And i can only say it this way. You know that. I was texting wayne. We were were most of the night last night back and forth talking to each other and texting and talking and you know he's he's completely got it you know he's completely got it by the thing and of course and i said aggressive. I can only tell you this about your dad in in one paragraph that everyone who met him. Let me read it steve. If i can read this because they didn't know what to say and so it's not like people are waiting for me to respond but you kind of you kind of get sucked into this thing. Say okay. i want to say something about him. You know and i don't mean in a bad way. We wanna say the right thing you to see the you say the right thing. So i said you read all the posts about walter and how everybody came away so happy because he did something extra along with signing an autograph or taking a picture then had a brain aneurysm in the early nineties and spent every day the rest of his life doing charity work. What a way to go out. And that's not an embellishment that's not an embellishment at all everything he did. I don't know if you saw the the clip of wayne where he was certainly brought to tears by the end of but a one minute thing. That wayne did talking about the golf ball story. You know. I don't know if you had a chance to see it did. Yeah so wayne's you know telling this great story but his dad who collected gulf member. I was telling you that the day walter died that he hoarded. These galls but in wayne would say you stop. Doing that. Wayne was explaining to people. Stop doing a dad. And and everyone seems to think well who cares and then winston the reason is because i got i got a sign all of them because he gives them away to kids right and so if it wasn't charity like actual speaking at dinners or traveling somewhere or dropping the puck somewhere or signing autographs out of thing and giving of his time in inviting people into his home. He was doing that then. He would go do that. He would he. It's hard to explain. But he just never stopped never stopped thinking about what he could do for someone else. And i mean that quite literally right when he when i did see him at his house after he came back from a golf tournament or a game or or taking pictures for something he'd walk into the house and then be on the phone talking to someone about getting picture signed for a kid or something like that he was an incredible guy so then then then i got to think about everyone else. Who's who's never met him was never been lucky enough to meet him but what he meant to them. And i read a bunch of stuff but i i. I took screenshot of a guy who who put this out. And it gives you an idea of what walter gretzky meant to anyone who knew about him which are millions and millions of people but never meant he says hi guys such a sad moment in hockey. I'm forty seven and really what this has to do. Is all these all all these people's heroes you know and not only was welter hero. But he was an angel for the imagine. Imagine having suffering brain damage and then you come out of that thing. Here's aren't gonna handle the rest of my life you know. And there's other people like that who represent things for for them In celebrities and this guy says hi guys such a sad moment in hockey and forty seven and never lost a close member of my family except for my wife's grandma two years ago. My point is this at my age. Grieving the loss of life has been different most recently. It's been the loss of guard down near arnold palmer. Gordie howe and now walter gretzky. I've cried deeply for each of these beautiful influential and credible role models in my life. Just as an immediate member of my family. My heart feels empty. My love goes to their families. And don't want the universal they shaped my life. Rest in peace walter. And i've i read a bunch. Steve but i just thought that was was really what a lot of people were. Were saying about walter as they do their other. Heroes you know this guy mentioned scored downing gordie howe and arnold palmer. So anyway that's always spent the last couple of days. I've spent a lot of time talking on the phone with them with with with wayne and glenn and other and other friends you know and You know it's you. And i both been through it and i bet many the listeners have been through it with. They've lost their parent so from a human side. It's you're you're talking about seventy two hours ago. Right where walter died on the fourth ironically was my father's birthday Yeah i lost my dad in august so you nothing prepares you for losing your dad especially when you're close and and who's closer to his dad than wayne gretzky and a very sad and as we go to break here. Here's a little of wayne Rhyming he did such a wonderful job. And and i hope you've are related that to him. He did such a wonderful job talking about his dad. And just a lovely eulogy at walters funeral on the weekend. He was a remarkable man who loved life. Love family we'd be way better world if there are so many more people like my dad very special. We're all hurting. This is a tough time. I'm so proud of the fact that so many people have reached out and giving them such great tributes because he deserves it he has a heart of gold and just wonderful Trucks and minivans cost less to than small cars. You got a better deal on home insurance. 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One of their incredible chef inspired variations. Paiko a totally fresh delicious innovative take on pizza order online or drop in paiko today at two thirty six richmond road or one seventy metcalfe and the new location at three. Oh five reto this evening projects sports and whatever very welcome back to the program. Tom wilson's added again. The washington capitals rugged. Ford i was gonna call him tough guy but that was very tough thing. He did there recently against the boston. Bruins tom wilson has now been suspended for seven games for a hit against the boards on boston's brandon carlo. And it was well ugly in every way hit can be ugly. It was basically carlo up against the boards. Got the pocket and his skates. And wilson comes up and pretty much collides with the side of the guy's head and he left the game due to injury and It was just and it's not one of those deals where he can sort of. Give the guy the benefit of the doubt. Tom wilson continually runs into trouble with the nhl law and I mean these seven game. Suspensions four-game game suspensions the they just don't seem to be getting through to this guy. Now what did you think of him. There's no doubt in my mind that that he's lining up the guy's head okay whether shoulder right. That's the big hit right. That's the big hit when you when you leave the ice. Hers people incorrectly. See all the time. He left his feet. You know when he when he's leaving the isis the guys up against the boards. I think he's not even looking at him. Got his head down and this guy sort of lays into them with a shoulder to connect with his head. Okay so that's that's a terrible brutal disgusting dirty hidden hockey. Triple that stevie. When you're looking at the guys had up against the glass and you're gonna go smashing. You know like the guy the guys up the guys up against the boards and there's his his face might even be against the glass when he does it steve. It's just freaking heinous man idea. I thought i. That's what i thought when i looked out said that's like punching a guy down steve that's like punching a guy when his heads on the ice and you know as heads on the ice right. They don't do it right. You seldom see that right. The guy will pull up. What was the example. Last week was a beautiful example. The guy waving the linesmen and because he was going to use going to murder the kitty was fighting right. Yeah but this guy. I think he. He saw it from a mile away in terms of hockey speed. You know like you have a good two seconds there and tried to smash his head like a pumpkin into the glass. That's what i that's what i saw. Elsie the same. I mean and it's and it's this guy it's one of those deals where maybe i'm throwing around benefit of doubt of. It's somebody who's never done something like this before because it is a fast game and guys move the last second but there's nothing i can find here where i i can even begin to go down that road. A it's is tom wilson. You know if there's been a murder and there's a serial killer hanging around the scene of the crime. I'm gonna probably look his way and not given benefit of the doubt It's tom wilson and brandon. Carlo is totally stationary up against the boards. There was one today it was. Let's see. I think it was chicago in saint. Louis i wanna say and There was a big hit Behind the net and I mean it was one where he could look at and say okay. Well that's second go either way but this one was just. This is a guy. Carlos stationary against the boards. He didn't change direction. Didn't spin at the last second. He's totally still. And this guy had really his choice of where he wanted to hit him and He clearly chose get the the good. Maybe do the most damage knock this guy goofy. Get the puck and off. I go and intimidating. That's tom wilson's game. And so it's that's that's the frustrating part of it but more than that though it's hard for me to get to work out a budget anymore. Because the nhl at large doesn't seem to care that much y'all through a seven game suspension. Well this guy's been suspended repeatedly in the league and It doesn't seem to change anything for him and they don't ever seem to want to do something more fierce with this guy really seem to care that much. Yeah here's the problem with hockey. Steve compared to look at the nfl. For example okay. So you don't you don't get too much dirty stuff in the nfl. Okay but when you when you do when you have an infraction in the nfl. Okay face masking right blocking from behind you know. What do they call a crack blocking. Think you can't you can't drop right and Outright that stuff is really harmful to your team right. Fifteen yard penalty man. Okay automatic first down a huge game changer. Giving a guy a five minute major or a two minute penalty. Forget this suspension for a sec. It's not that big a deal in the nhl teams trained for that they practice for that shit all day long. Five hundred four five four and that's for minor infractions. that's for stuff that maybe arguably a penalty or not so the what the so. This guy getting seven games for big deal. Big deal house that harm his team. Yeah wasn't even a penalty call in the game not even minor penalty on right. So so you gotta do steve. What the league. What what they have to do is You know they got you got you got i. Don't sit two guys in the box or something you know he has call. I'll tell you what man that's that's five on three for four minutes or something or they gotta get way more drastic steve. Because that guy's going to look at that and all the teams are going to go. Okay don't worry about it buddy. You know you've got your seven yeah. You shouldn't have done it but we get you know it's no big deal right it. What what happens if they lose wilson. I may be speaking out. I don't know how good this guy is. I don't i don't follow wash. He can't eat. He's got some offensive upside and he's not superstar by any stretch. But he's definitely a guy you on your lineup. Yeah like the whole idea. Steve of suspensions and penalties okay and infractions and calling them is so guys. Don't do it again okay. So you stop doing that. Right and players. No you can't trip or guy so they try not to right and when they do. It's two minutes we get we get it okay but when it comes to more severe penalties. Ironically they don't do enough you know it doesn't harm your team right. There's no harm here to the team. There's no big deal it doesn't it's not gonna change a thing for them replace guy we get. We don't have to play twenty guys instead of twenty. We're not down on me in this. They weren't even down a man got to lead the lumber somewhere they got to come up with something way stricter than than what they're doing you know. Look at basketball right. You harm guy. Okay right to the line right to the line near and you're gonna score point here right right and hockey like i dunno. Go go try and crush the guy's head in and you're gonna. You're what happens. While there's i don't know if what we get the other day. Five thousand dollar fine for spurring a guy in the business for spirit of the in the groin. I think i was texting. I you know the mind money. He's making plus. The team probably covers it. I don't know but i if you're other players if not for player safety sake though the. Nhl should be really strict on this just for their own well-being financially. Because you know if you're serving a a big message to the whole world that you're soft on this stuff and someone like brandon carlo. Thirty years from now has c- t. and his family's like doesn't recognize him anymore and they're gonna come suing like what kind of a climate trying to in the nhl back in In that day when brandon carlo played to you know really prove that you were about protecting guys heads and brains and To continually. Allow tom wilson. To do what he does that's That's not going to sit well with the court of law in when it comes to lawsuits and such in the future. So that's that's something. The nhl should be thinking about if not player safety than where they really live. And that's in their waltz. Yeah it's a team sport right. It's a team sport. So if you're if you're going to run around like a maniac or you. Are you going to do a really agree. Gis thing okay. You've got to do something to harm the team. I think i'll tell you what steve if they said. Okay skirt you do that stuff. The ref has discretion. Okay it's two guys in the box for two minutes okay. That's gonna stop that shit. Well that would be interesting. Go right to five on three scenario in a situation like that. I can't see that happening. But i certainly wouldn't complain about it and and like i say when it comes to head injuries in hockey i mean you look at this story. That's going on right now with The unfortunate passing of team. Usa miracle on ice water mark pavlovich. Who passed away over the weekend. There's a guy that quite clearly had head injuries from his time in hockey and And he had all kinds of struggles with it. He was undergoing treatment at a facility after he was charged with assault for fighting a neighbor couple of years ago and then we may have even talked about it on the show. He was found incompetent to stand trial because he was deemed by the judge to be dangerous and have mental illness. Like say passed away on the weekend and You have the new york rangers captain from in and around the era of mark pavlik who absolutely wrote a scathing facebook post blaming the rangers and usa hockey for the death of pavlovich and Is actual passing was on thursday at the age of sixty three and i guess John davidson who was the goalie at the time He was right at the center of this thing. He wasn't the goalie at the time. I should say as a former ranger goalie and at the time he was the club. President and berry back was ripping absolutely everyone including john davidson Let me see if i can find the part here. I saw i saw part of it. Yeah yeah blasted. Davidson is rangers teammate. Of four years for not returning an email asking that the organization publicly show their support for mark by just by just saying one of their own former players was sick and we wish him well. Jd didn't even return my email. I guess he was to f. busy. He should have picked up the phone and cold me. That would have been the right thing to do as we were teammates and he certainly would have my back right and so back had a lot of things to say called the rangers in the league. Cowards for avoiding these conversations about the lasting impact on the brain and head injury suffered while playing hockey can abso. Yeah and by the way the cause of his death is still under investigation. This is the kind of conversation that could happen thirty years from now when people talk about. What did you really do to slow down again. Tom wilson yeah. First of all. I think barry beck handled it the wrong way. I can hear his frustration. I read some of it today. A bunch of that stuff. And i think he's wrong a little bit coming out and blaming john davidson blaming the new york rangers for not talking about this thing. I think the nhl is trying to do that. I think concussion awareness and player safety. It's not perfect. I mean we just spoke about it right for that. Suspension is doesn't. It doesn't do it for me right now because they're not harming teams and it'll stop that that's the only way i think it'll stop but right so obviously frustrated knee jerk. Reaction may be john. Davidson is the president of the new york rangers and said he didn't return an email. John probably i. Johns great guy by the way i know him and and so john. They're going to be busy. So i i think it was. Unfair of him nailing. These people saying. You're not doing anything about this. I don't know what you think. Steve but i think i think the league is. I think they're trying not perfect. The other the other problem is stevie. They can't figure out Concussion what what's it called steve. Ct cte. yeah i i. It's something i don't have the actual. Yeah okay medved cdt. For sure right but the only way that can determine if that's what you suffer from is is after you die correct. They can't they can't do it right so it's a really complicated thing so i think russell always said this about other guys right who freak out athletes who freak out about a cause and stuff like that. They would do much better to maybe handle it with a little more grace. Instead of you know. I wrote an email and the guy didn't get back to me and rip them shred limb from limb. If you if you want to really help bury then. Then get hold of them. Crocodile log right as opposed to doing so aggressively steve. I don't know if that makes sense Well we're come some slack. On a couple of cases and by the way see is chronic traumatic and cephlon apathy. Butch that last word but and his Pavlidis sister absolutely believed that her brother suffered from cte. But like you say you really you can't you can't find out until after someone has died because you have to basically get in there Autopsy right exactly. So the reason i cut very back some slack is a. He's in morning We all aren't ourselves when You know someone close to his passes away so good. He's absolutely emotional. And then the other part is he did go back on sunday onto facebook with a second post said friday. I wrote an emotional post that stirred some controversy. I understood everything. I said and was soon thereafter contacted by john davidson years ago. John mark and i were teammates with the rangers. John and i discussed the remarks made we both respect each other and agreed that at this time it's best we focus on mourning the death of mark so he kind of had a couple of days to think about it and Kind of walk things back a little I think he regrets going public with something so emotional and so scathing But it didn't sound like you walk it fully back. It sounds like he's still kind of believes what he had said. He just sorta going lamb. Maybe my timing was off there. And maybe i should get a little milder with with my approach but it sounds like he. He's still upset with the rangers and the nhl. I it's you bring up a really interesting thing right because it's been going on for why i don't know if they're still a class. Action suit by a bunch of players may have been settled. I i'm sure the league had to settle with some of the guys. I think it's still lingering. Yeah because i think jeff gordon was part of it. I think i think gary leeman is part of that deal. There's there's a few other household names that you and i would know So that's ongoing right so there's some stuff going on there but when you see that incident last night or whenever that game was this week where wilson you know you talk about some. That's gonna be really curious over the next little while particularly steve when this guy dies from it you know. Listen some guys can die from from from at an early age for other things. But it's looking that way we we won't know yet until they do the autopsy but it happens at the same time you know. That story about barry beck breaks and then you see that thing last night in sports and you and i don't know where it takes steve to think about it but there's two places one is one is outrage right. That that i see by the league not penalizing enough. Like i said and some of it is some of it is. You're you're you know you're you pay your money. You pay the price you know. And i may get kicked in the head for that but you kind of know going in steve you kind of know going in that if you play football or if you box or you play hockey or you're an enemy fighter you're going to get head injuries. You're not going to be the same. So where where does that. Leave a steve. Where does where does that leave us. Yeah i think you're right. Every every player does know. There's a risk that goes with contact sports when my teams trying to go toward you and your teams trying to go toward me. There's going to naturally be collisions and some bad injuries and some of it will build up multiple times. You get hit the head. It's it's going to potentially pose a major problem immediately or down the line Where we're leagues run into trouble is where they don't offer proper treatment they they don't take a head injury and they say get back on their kid. I i really worry a still even twenty twenty one that that all things are above board. I mean god if you look at the the way that pat mahomes walked off the field for the kansas city chiefs in the playoffs one week and then the next week. He's back under center. I'm like really did we. Did we figure that out in a week. One week you figure that out really anyway. I m maybe. Hey maybe some kind of super healer and there's no problems but it's about was the proper treatment in place and none of that Throw some dirt on it and the other thing is Is the preventative measures in place. When guys are doing things that are way illegal like tom. Wilson did on brandon carlo Was there enough of a deterrent. A consequence that discouraged that kind of behavior so those are the two things that leagues can get into trouble. Or they're not they're never going to get into trouble because somebody got a bunch of you know head shots in the normal course of play That's just something that i think people sign up for foreign. I don't think leaks. Get in trouble for that but we should take a timeout. Got to wrap up the program. James we'll be back with final thoughts. After these words a lot of people. I talked to end up asking me. About what coverages should they have for their house. How much do i need. Why would i want that. I am joe girardi. All insurance ontario color. Text me at eight zero one. Two six five nine. Give me a call. Let's hope that talk and we'll make sure that you have the coverages that you want and that you need all insurance ontario. Your modern boutique broker. Hey how would you like to win your own home gym right now. Popeye supplements fitness depot and ottawa. 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Back in the fall actually had a couple of people. Ask about. I thought you do. I know you just move to take. Didn't like actually. This is my my dad's place in richmond. And so glenn help us sell that home back in the fall. He set aside a budget to help us out with painting cleaning and even updating our ceiling lights force. We've got multiple offers in the home sold for well over asking price call. The glenn walton real estate team today at glen walton dot com. So james as we wrap it up today any final thoughts. Stevie god bless walter. You know we'll we'll We'll we'll get through it. And i know it was like i say it was just great. All the the outpouring From people i read a bunch of it right. It's really cool. You probably did to bring. Oh yes oh yeah. I thought that was great So lend on this steve okay. And before i ended up as long as as long as we reintroduced a somber note to the the proceedings Showed it to everybody at tsn and condolences on the passing of chris schultz their longtime tsn cfl analyst at the age of sixty one Passed away of a heart attack. Same day that Believes the day after two gretzky passed away so Lots of people touched by him as well. So i wanted to make sure i say Condolences to everybody at tsn. I i never knew him. I i certainly watched Watching the he was a mainstay right. God that's young stevie. I'm almost all we're getting up there. Totally yeah we had on the air. All the time he was great he was always Like dabba laugh. Let love talking football and gangs great so real sad ontario kid right and and then played played in the nfl right for dallas correct. Yup longtime toronto argonauts. Good deal What i was gonna do stevie all all to all those people. God blesses into here on to provide a little levity stephen because i've heard this about myself he's a nice person. Once you get to know okay you heard that he's a nice guy. I'm not talking about anyone. Specific detail hear that. He's a nice guy once you get to know right what they really should be saying. Steve is the guy's a prick. But you'll get used to it when you think about it. You said i really want you to know. Okay i gotta go through hell with this. Yeah you know he's a prick you'll get. Yeah exactly i've gotten used to you. Is we We're pushing on by the way. My friend to five hundred episodes will be hitting that in a couple of weeks. So that's pretty exciting shit. Yeah exactly so. I've gotten used to you as well. So it's all it's me. You have europe. Rick jim but we'll get a good night. Everybody will see.

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The Playoff Picture: 4/5/19

Hockey Today

00:00 sec | 2 years ago

The Playoff Picture: 4/5/19

"In the game misconduct podcast with done the Greco. I walked through the Friday edition of game is conduct. The next time. I talked to you. We will know all of the seedings all the matchups because there's really only one spot left to grab and that is in the Eastern Conference. But let's start the conversation with what happened last night in the west congratulations to the Colorado Avalanche there in the postseason, and they deserve to be over the last three games in which they acquired five points in the standings. They spotted the opposition to goals and still found a way to get points. And last night was another perfect example as they fight back from a deficit and they get the win over the jets by the final score of three two in overtime to Clinton spot. Now, they had the spot clinched. Once they went overtime is will finish it off and get the victory Shifu healers. Give Winnipeg to nothing lead after one Tyson. Berry gets his fourteenth Carl Soderberg ties at midway through the third. And then it was Eric Johnson. And over time to finish it off as Colorado is now in the postseason. Congratulations. Them they're in and also -gratulations to the Arizona coyotes. They deserve a lot of respect as well. The coyotes ended up winning in bagels four to one. So it Colorado it stalled and lost that game last night to Winnipeg. They'd still be mathematically live going to the last game of the season. But I don't think anybody expected hours Ona's still be alive in the final Thursday of the season. So -gratulations to them on a great year if they can beat Winnipeg finished with eight points, which I think is great thirty nine when they got a chance at forty if they can beat Winnipeg so good job outta them. But now it's about seatings Colorado is just a point back of Dallas Dallas has a game in hand. So it does look like Dallas will be that first wildcard and Colorado hook up with Calgary in the first round of the postseason. I think that would be some terrific hockey. We're looking forward to that. Now, the Eastern Conference we still have one spot open, but really Montreal's on a respirator they lost to Washington two to one. They just couldn't get the equalizer carry price. It was great in this game. The macho just could not Wayne in Washington. Meanwhile, Columbus was idle, so there's still a chance for Montreal. They're gonna have to get some breaks because Columbus has a game in hand. They got the game tonight a Madison Square Garden against the Rangers. They finish up against the Ottawa. Senators. Meanwhile, Montreal has to beat Toronto at home on Saturday. And then hope so if Columbus were to get a win tonight with the Rangers in any way, shape or form overtime shootout regulation. Columbus would clinch a postseason berth and eliminate Montreal. So it can be settled later on tonight. Now, Columbus has their sights set on Carolina and congratulations to them. They took care of business. They beat the devils three to one. So Carolina's going to plow. Now, how Aereas this for the hurricanes? The last time they went to the place was ten years ago a decade ago when they clinched playoff berth in two thousand nine they clinched it on April fourth so it's hard to believe on the exact tenth anniversary of the last time. Clinched playoff spot. Carolina. Does it again? And you see the footage there from Raleigh were fans or hugging. Each other. Listen, they may not have a fan base that is as big as the college basketball or certainly the Panthers in the area, but they are passionate. They've been through a lot. Imagine your team not going to the playoffs for a decade. Not coming close and then finally comes together. So what's been an amazing season? Will look like it was going to be a rebuilding season for Carolina. They got it done. So congratulations to everybody involved there while del general manager rod Brindamour did a great job is first year as head coach Carolina thinks got an excellent chance to win the Jack Adams trophy for coach of the year. But the hurricanes can still get caught for that. I wild card so they need to be careful because Columbus has a game in hand three points. Back Carolina's gonna finish in Philly coming up on Saturday while Columbus as I mentioned they have the game against the Rangers game against the outer senators, certainly to winnable games. And the reason that's important is nobody wants that second wildcard. Because that means that date with Tampa. Bay Lightning in the first round of the playoffs. I think Carolina can live with that. Because I think going to the playoffs and even if they got swept it's still a step in the right direction member Columbus made all those deals so they can make a run in the playoffs. Not get bounced in the first round. Okay. Let's make no mistake about that. We've talked about that before you know, the blue jackets made those trades. They were top three team in the metropolitan division poised to have to miss Tampa until the conference final. There were hoping to win the division. They made the trades. And now they've finished lower than they did at the time. They made the deals and now might be a first round exit that would be tough for Columbus to take. So the blue jackets will still even if they win tonight clinch playoff spot will still be motivated to win catch Carolina. Not that the winner of the metropolitan division. Congratulations, the Washington Capitals Clinton that last night are going to be any easy out. But certainly tapa looks like it's real heavy lifting Washington in so congratulations to them another championship in the division. And this time they get a chance to defend their Stanley Cup championship as the two seed. In the Eastern Conference and the number one team in the metro, and they'll wait to see whether it's going to be Carolina or Columbus. They dance with coming up Wednesday Thursday on the schedule comes out. I owners get a huge win in Florida against the Panthers. They have the one nothing leave Florida comes back Tiet. But then they're able to get to the shootout win it in the shootout. So the elders a two point lead on Pittsburgh for second place, which means home-ice advantage in the first round of the playoffs. The islanders will be at Washington coming up tomorrow while Pittsburgh will be taking on the Rangers on Saturday. So both teams have different tasks the the caps of already clinched the division. Meanwhile, the Rangers just trying to play the role of spoilers on the anything guaranteed right now. So if the islanders were lose that game, and then they would go to Pittsburgh where they're Pittsburgh to win that game, Pittsburgh would get to seed and home ice advantage. The islanders have had not had home ice advantage in thirty one years last time they had home ice advantage was in nineteen eighty eight and they got bounced in the first row. By New Jersey. But that's the last time we're talking a long longtime three decades. So the elders deserve that forty seven twenty seven seven hundred one points plus twenty nine goal differential so -gratulations to the islanders on a great great season. So three games going on tonight. Got the Rangers. And the Columbus, blue jackets. We know how important that's going to be stars. And the Blackhawks stars trying to solidify the spot as far as the wild card is concerned for number one kings of the ducks playing out the string the ducks will not play on Saturday. So this is their last game of the season. So that's what's happening there. As far as the standings are concerned in the Western Conference. We still have the battle as far as the top spot in the central division Nashville with their win. They come from behind victory over Vancouver ninety eight points. Winnipeg ninety seven they've been in free fall just four wins in their last ten say Louis seven wins in their last ten seven one and two in that span. So saying Lewis is a point back of Nashville tied with Winnipeg. So. Things still very much up for grabs. Nashville finish down third Saint Louis can finish up. The first Nashville is going to close it out at home against Chicago. Winnipeg will be at our Saint Louis will be home against the Vancouver Canucks. So all three winnable games of those teams. Arizona's already out Vancouver's already out Chicago already out. So really is up for grabs. Who's going to be the third place team having to play home-ice disadvantage in the first round of possibly win the division and then get a day with your Dallas or Colorado in the first round. So things are definitely wild in the west. So there's a lot to play for coming up tonight and tomorrow, so should be a lot of fun. Hope was hoping that Arezzo would still be alive. Just for the fun of it on certainly deserved the chance to do that didn't happen. But congratulations to all the teams that have wrapped up a playoff spot and graduations for the teams that had surprising seasons. Montreal even if they don't make it. I think they can hang their head. Hi there the twentieth team in the league last year not much of expected them this year. Carey price carried them right to the wire and could carry them. Into the playoffs. But if they don't I think Montreal's got to be pretty proud of what they've accomplished so far and pretty proud about their future. So graduations to them. It's Friday on the wreckage Friday top five. All right. We got a lot of teams that could be competing for this. A lot of teams closed out the season real strong to stay claim at this prize of being one of the top five team. So let's start where we're usually start. And that's at the bottom number five. All right. Let's give a little love to the Columbus. Blue jackets. They've really put things together. Now they did lose their last game against Boston. But they'd won five of the previous games to put themselves in this plow spot. When it looked like they were completely dead in the water six three and one over their last ten they're getting great goaltending from abroad, sqi, Panara, contributing so Columbus, blue jackets are poised to make the playoffs. And thanks to five wins over the last six, and I've got them at number five. Number four. Let's dive right into those Saint Louis blues a team that has just been a miracle worker of team this year. A lot of credit goes to Baru a lot of credit goes to their goaltending. They've really come together Tarasenko has gotten hot seven one and two over their last ten poised to possibly win the central division after being the worst team in the NHL on January second just an absolutely amazing story and well-deserved for them to be one of the best teams in the National Hockey League. Number three. I think Washington has worked their way into that. Congratulations to them on winning the division six three and one over their last ten plus thirty two gold. If Orential twenty four wins at home twenty four ins on the road absolutely complete team. They were threatened by the Allders threatened by Pittsburgh. And they really showed their muscle making sure that they clinched division and have a chance to guarantee them home-ice advantage until the conference final. And I think Washington really likes the position that they're in. They deserve to be at number three number two. While the number two team. I think is going to have to be the Boston Bruins seven three and in their last ten two consecutive wins. Plus forty seven goal differential the only team in the last week to figure out the Columbus, blue jackets, and they spanked him six to to the other night. They're healthy. They're the one team that thinks got the best shot to beat the Tampa Bay Lightning. Fortunately, that it's going to be in the second round of the playoffs, which absolutely stinks. We understand that. We've talked about that before. But I think the Boston Bruins poise. The possibly make a run here. And I'm really really looking forward to what this can actually be for the postseason for the Boston. Bruins not talked about all that much because they're stuck in the same division as the best team. Arguably that we've seen over the last twenty five years in Tampa. But Boston well deserved to be in the top five and at number two and no surprise here. Number. I didn't do the math to see who is number one the most. But just off the top of my head. I would have to think that it's the Tampa Bay Lightning thing you might want to be somewhat concerned about the lightning is they haven't played a meaningful game feels like in two months, but how many six game winning streaks of they had winning seven of their last ten six and one in the shootout plus one hundred goal differential. The only thing that's closed is the Calgary. Flames thirty six goals behind. Just amazing what they've done in and give a lot of credit. The Steven stamkos. He's gotten hot forty four goals here. Many people thought he was on his way to the end of his career because of all the injuries that he suffered in kucherov stolen lot of the spotlight. Now headman out they kept him out for the last of the regular season. But the feeling is that he will be back in time for the postseason. So the only thing that the derail this Tampa Bay. Lightning team obviously would be the injuries. But if they can get headman back healthy keep all of their big stars going. There's no reason the Tampa isn't the clear favourite to win their first. Stanley Cup since two thousand and four and just become the nineteenth ever the ninth team ever to win a Stanley Cup winning the presidents trophy are. Let's close out the week with your tweets at Greco hashtag game conduct. Sam says though, it's tough to decide which team I wanna make the playoffs Montreal or Columbus. I think the Canadians would give the bolts better fight in a playoff series agree, just because a carry price. Right. I mean that that's the thing. You get a hot goalie anytime anything can happen. And so carry prices had such a great close to the season. I think at agree with you. It's hard to really give a lot of credit Dobrynsky who has struggled in the postseason. Sam gives his top five. He's got the flames at five I considered putting them in the top five. But I just don't think they played great down the stretch. Although they were six and four in the final ten caps for avalanche. Three Bruins two and the lightning won. The avalanche certainly deserve a lot of credit the way they played down the stretch of the season. David hind says was happy for the hurricanes breaking their playoff appearance drought last night. Now, the longest playoff appearance drop belongs to buffalo. Eight. Seasons. Fall by Arizona seven. I suspect the coyotes will break that drought. I but how long, but and that's the question. How long will it take? I think our is going to be poised to be a playoff team. I think they're well coached. I think they've got a lot of good young players Keller didn't have the greatest of seasons for them this year. And I think he will get better. And they also get a good draft pick this year as well buffalo. I'm really confused by them. They did have the ten game winning streak this year. We'll see what changes are going to be coming their way. Mike Lawrence says what your take on the top five picks in the draft heard capo is turning heads lately. Where do you see the Rangers going in terms of need while I think they'll go best player because they do seem to have a lot of good young defensemen in their system. They've got good goalies in their system. I don't we're gonna have a draft show before the draft will probably get Craig Button on. We'll talk to each Radic. Those guys really know some of the young prospects that are going out. Everybody wants us with top pick. I always feel building team up the middle of the way. To go. If there are any centers out there because when you really look at the ranger centers some of them have disappointed lately is he'll where he needs to big as Anderson where he needs to be is how'd in where he needs to be coming off that knee injury. So you can never go wrong. Certainly drafting centers Anwar fanatic says I saw the end of both the jets avalanche and devils hurricanes games live. I'm glad I did. Because both games got me really excited for the playoffs. Absolutely. Those great atmosphere certainly in Colorado and even better atmosphere in in our in Carolina. I was there in Carolina. No two in an six when those teams one, and then just to be so dormant they did go to the conference final in two thousand nine but to go ten years go into the playoffs. Just sickening for those fans and to see the footage. Go to Twitter, you know, fans hugging each other fans crying. I mean, that's how important hockey is to a lot of those people and and good for them to finally get into the postseason mariota's. Hey, Don, what do oh? From any era of hockey could you relate mcdavid and dry saddle too. I think they're. Ah tapes and Cain. What do you think? Well, that would obviously be the first thing to pop into my mind one of the great combinations. That I loved back in the day when they played in Toronto was Gilmore, Andrew Chuck. They were tremendous of Corey got hall and Oates when they're in Saint Louis, that's another great combination as well. So those are two of the ones that kind of pop into my head there Ricky says, hey, Dom, I'm not a fan of the playoff format for multiple reasons. But the islanders can play pens or canes under the old former they would play the Leafs thoughts. Thank you and have a great weekend. Listen the Leafs in the first round considering it'd be Taveras against his old team would definitely make you salivate. But you know, what you got a chance to take on the canes ahead of the leaves? I think you'd rather have that pens are going to be a tough out. I'm not in love with the pens this year. I'm not in love with their blue line. I think they're goaltending at times can be had because of the injuries that they've suffered. The penguins are going to be very difficult out especially now, Malcolm tangle returning to the lineup. They're gonna be healthy. So that's a big difference between the pens and the canes. I'm not trying to disrespect the Carolina Hurricanes. They could be on some sort of a miracle ride here, but the Allders have to stake their claim as well to being on a miracle ride. So good point there. A Matt says Glen say they're stepping down. Who would you put in the role to finish the rebuild? Great question of both bunch of people have asked me that question over the last couple of hours. I I'm most intrigued by John Davidson now, I don't know what his history is Columbus as far as whether he's gonna stay there or not I can see Columbus cleaning house. If there was any possibility of that team getting swept in the first round of the playoffs because they would look upon everything being a failure. So could kick a Ryan and Twitter Alabi out along with Davidson, I'm not sure, but there is a lot of talk that John Davidson could possibly be that guy. He's got ties to the Rangers organization. I know that he'd love to come back to New York. I think he's done a terrific job there in Columbus. When you consider where they were when he took over spend a little time in Saint Louis between his broadcasting job with the Rangers. Then of course, his job here with Columbus. Mark Messier as a name that's been through. Thrown out there as well. But I rather have a guy with a little experience. I think John Davidson would be the perfect selection for that. Chris. Hi, Don since the flyers were limited from the plows their own three but outscored v sixteen to five their play has looked effortless. Is there an indication of bigger problems such as a lack of leadership does Fletcher have his work cut out for him in the off season. I think he does. I mean, we got we talked about this before Chris there's a lot of good young players on that team. But I call that game on Sunday. I was very disappointed now they were limited the day before, but they knew their their playoff chances were slim, and I saw no-show against the Rangers who skated circles around them. And certainly as you said oh in three since that loss last Saturday to Carolina big disappointment. When you take away and Simmons who was a leader out of that team. It's going to be time for some of those young players Goss spare to step up. We'll see if any of the forwards like as you ru Katori, a of an reams dyke. I mean, they've been there awhile now. So somebody's gotta step up and be the man. So yeah, I was a little disappointing. The way things finish their with Philadelphia Flyers. But I'm still very bullish on their future. All right. A lot of fun today. Thanks for getting in touch with us big weekend. For a lot of teams getting ready for the postseason now Monday. We're gonna have a full blow out as far as previewing the playoffs. EJ radical join us. So we'll do a lot leading into those first games on Wednesday and Thursday and Also Monday, we'll have all the details on the down LeGras ice pick bracket challenge. We're gonna have a chance to win tickets jerseys. It's gonna be a lot of fun. So definitely stay tuned. For Monday will have all of the details and give you a couple of days to think about it and be able to fill out your bracket. So we'll give you the address to do all that. All the details will be coming up on Monday. If I get them, any sooner. I'll definitely tweet the information out to you. But should all be crystallized by the time? We hit the air on Monday. So we're definitely looking forward to that. Please everybody have tremendous weekend back with the again on Monday. This was the Friday edition of game has conduct. The he's the game misconduct podcast with done the Greco.

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Embedded Correspondents Re-Fire & American Idol BBQCS Finale!

The BBQ Central Show

1:06:05 hr | 1 year ago

Embedded Correspondents Re-Fire & American Idol BBQCS Finale!

"Was smokey mountain to Nashville Tennessee. And you are listening to the Barbecue Central Show to board here for the really big barbecue show. We Cook because we have to and we grill because we want to get me a great show Boeing through the problem here instead in the crackle ono want four laborious finish dog shit peach working on right now. Welcome to the second hour everybody. It's the barbecue central. Show doing live right here. Every Tuesday from nine to eleven pm if you missed the first hour no problem recording. It'll be on podcast here a little bit later actually later in the morning tomorrow. Like three or four o'clock in the morning posting to the feed is its own animal like I posted eleven fifty five an hour and fifty five minutes from now but it doesn't matriculate into the Peter Propagate into the interwebs four hours take forever. That's all right what I did want to get in touch with me to one. Six to two zero zero nine six six greg at the BBQ central show dot com is the email address. You can also follow be socially at bbq central show on instagram and twitter and snapchat. And Tick Tock you can also take a look at me slash bbq central show on facebook. So check me out there. There's also a video feed if you WANNA check out the whole situation over there coming up this Friday the best moments of the Barbecue Central Show in ten minutes or less episode one hundred and twenty six hits the feed this one being cold for. May Twenty Eighth Two thousand thirteen and I talked with Kale Phelps. Who is the editor in chief of the National Barbecue News? That is or was originally a paper publication. If you can believe it and over time they have grown into having to pivot into digital and order to stay relevant in order to stay in business they were one of the first if not the first truly barbecue specific publication out there in Georgia and for a number of years. They ran one of the more high profile barbecue contest which was called the best of the best. I think that was in green the South Carolina that there but best of the best was a free standing contest and this was an invitational. So if you don't WanNa miss speak but I know it took from a number of different sanctioning bodies. It's been so long. Since best of the best is went by the wayside but I believe there was no priority given to one sanctioning body or the other but it was basically a contest where you could go if you could get there. You're eligible to go in. But I think you had to win. There was some kind of form of winning criteria but best of the best was widely considered thousand. Eight two thousand nine. Maybe a little earlier than that was widely considered to be one of the most prestigious competitions to win outside of the Norm Jack. The American royal things like that best of the best was right in there with that one that eventually fell off and national barbecue. News is a great story and we talked with the editor cal. Felts in twenty thirteen. That would be may so it's up so one hundred twenty six. You have to be subscribe to the podcast. Feed in order to get the best of shows. Remember that otherwise. You have to visit the website every Wednesday Thursday Friday in order to get these podcasts. So make sure that you're subscribed to the feed on any podcast platform. Just go into the podcast platform that you like the best search barbecue central show and then subscribe from there. You're alerted when all the stuff hits the feed that way. You don't have to even remember anything you just get the alert the way you can go and listen there. You go as I mentioned in the first hour tomorrow programming note there will be a live show. We'll do it live three. Pm Eastern where? I will be rejoined by Emily. Park from the American Royal Association. She's the manager of the world series of barbecue and we will announce the class of twenty twenty for the Barbecue Hall of fame as I quickly. Peruse the smoke sheet barbecue newsletter says does Array Aaron Franklin and Bill Arnold Darren Wharf is the bridesmaid. That's to for him. Tucker says John Davidson meathead the and Aaron Franklin Right Guy. The cooking Sam does not guess Mattie and Kiki ain't nothing wrong with a little Bristle brush. That's very dangerous thinking that America's hat weighing in with her bristle know. How don't do ladies that Bristle Brush? You would do it all right. Nother email here we go. Hey Greg the show last night. This is from a couple of weeks ago apologised. Tigra coauthor show last night awesome. I always look forward to your interviews. It's nice to put a voice and attitude with the people who follow and broaden our culinary horizons with the uncertainty of. How restaurants are going to reopen when friends that I have been discussing the possibility of a big grilling season. But how are we going to approach this fight? Cook a fifteen pound brisket. I'm cooking for group. I WANNA share the Labor's with others now. If I invite people in the past I would just say bring a desert or aside and I'll take care of everything else. The idea of community bowl of potato salad doesn't sound as attractive. This year is. It didn't years past but about a tray of brownies. We all have a ton of money. Time wrapped up in perfecting or passion. How can we still enjoy it? With the Rona his words encroachment the Rona looming over our heads. Wondering if you had this discussion with anyone or thought about the topic yourself if so what are views I also thought it could be a future fun topic. Stay healthy regards Rod schrader or Schroeder. I can never tell with that. I'm going to go with schrader which means it's probably Schroeder rod I Apologize. Let's say Rod. That's way to say the last thing. Rod. Okay Rod. I have thought about this because there isn't any bigger fan of community barbecue. This guy. I have fenced off my yard with my neighbor on purpose. We offense away other people from the back other sides. Not The guy to the left. We didn't mean to wall off the but there was a fence already there for crying out loud. We replaced when we added the other but we fenced in neighbor Desmond. We have formed. What we have called the compound. We did it on purpose. We wanted to bring in the people that we wanted. We wanted to keep out the people that we didn't want. We wanted free access to either of our yards for community barbecue and grilling so much community. In fact the desmond last year walked over to buy yard and stole by Pick Barrel. Cook it now. Sits on his deck by cooker sits on his deck and no. I'm not going to get it back because he can eat by lunch. Are you kidding me? Have you seen neighbor desmond? He liked it. He took its community. Grilling if I wanted to go. I could go over to Desmond's house. Knock on the doors. Hey Desmond you mind if I use my cooker that you stole from me. Yeah go ahead. You can use your own cooker. I'll let you fine now when you talk about these community barbecues now. I quite honestly. I don't even have any idea what the fuck is going on anymore. I mean you read so many new things every day my best advice and I'm not taking any political side here there so Alexa semi or save the email if you WanNa have big community barbecue gatherings where there isn't space or distance it's perfectly up to you. I would also say that if perhaps you got sick later you might want to mark that date down and be able to reference that baby it mere coincidence. I don't think I'm going to be having a huge barbecue gathering. I don't think I now I could be wrong. I mean who knows maybe I would but I don't think I am right now. But here's the other thing I so I would choose some distance when we have a compound barbecue right now. I know where the Motley's have been for the last eight months been. They're freaking house just like we have but if we had some other people come over we'd stay distant we share but we say here's the most important you talk about this community bowl of potato salad or pot. Brownies wait a second. You didn't say pot brownies. You said Brownies. I said pot brownies. My Bet here's the one thing that you need to keep in mind regardless of social distancing or not if the corona virus gets on your pot brownies or gets on your heroin laced potato salad or your crack garnished deviled eggs the minute you put it in your mouth and swallow it the corona virus. Then you're not getting the corona virus because of a community bowl of potato salad or brownies or devil that if all of your food is infected with corona. Stick your hands in your eyeballs are in your mouth when you swallow it. Stomach kills so. Don't worry about the eating part worry about if you want to be distant or not. That's it do what you feel is comfortable. I'm not going to tell you what you should do. But if you WANNA do something wacky marked the date and look back just in case then if nothing happens fame nobody wants to get more back to normal than me. Some other panel members made worked attributing members the GODDAMN society over here. Let's go we're ready? We like money right John. We like money buccaneer. Right be like. Hey BIG POPPA. Smokers is the one stop online shop for all things barbecue. Curated selection of only the best outdoor cooking grilling supplies will get you on the path the better barbecue results in no time. Everything at big POPPA smokers has been pit master approved by Sterling. Big Papa Ball himself from the award. Winning rubs and sauces the American grills and smokers big pompous has everything to be a better outdoor cook. 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You've clamored about a bigger pit barrel and now you will get a bigger pit barrel. Don't forget the lifestyle room soon to be open to the general public so you can share in the pit barrel lifestyle all right. It is the fourth Tuesday of the month. You know that means a visit from the embedded correspondents at right so we welcome in Jeff Racer and we welcome John. Solberg and I would say we're welcoming in Doug shouting but I- guarantee Goddamn t doug is not they're gonna try and do the whole. Are you their dog? Because I'm pretty sure I can tell John. How are you this evening doing fantastic? Thanks so much for as and Jeff Racer. How are you in Wisconsin? Perfect glad to be here bud and Doug shining are you in Texas. I know all about it. You don't have to say you must be raining. Down in Texas is really gotten quite a substantial amount of rain for I understand here recently. So maybe it's all backed up into the pipes underground. I wouldn't assume that Doug lives in any kind of a neighborhood that actually has old fashioned power poles and internet polls like I have and by very middle class neighborhood These are probably all ridden or driven underground to have an aesthetically pleasing neighbourhoods so a big big day tomorrow guys as you all know. We'll be announcing the barbecue of fame clients for twenty twenty so I thought it would be a good idea for us to really dig in here where we would generate our own individual lists of three who we would be putting in tomorrow if we had our druthers and then perhaps however slim chances might be that we come up with a unanimous decision. I mean that would be great. We're all on the same page. However if we don't we'll see who do we have come but will write those down and if we have one in common we'll go back around and we'll try and see if we can't come up with a unanimous second unanimous third basically culminating in our own barbecue central who we would put in for the hall of fame tomorrow and then of course we have to have our fourth place which. I becoming increasingly enamored with as we continue to talk about. It made its way into the chat. Maybe that was even this morning and I became quickly attached to that whole idea of figuring out who the fourth person so here we go. Hey look here's Doug Chiding here on the show you their rain in the summer vision right. Is that what it was and Change Change Computer options? Oh all right yeah good idea. Let's do that right before the show. I couldn't get in all right so I was just regaling the other guys. Doug about what the plan is here for the evening and how we're going to be going around and giving our three now. Let's do this first Johnny go ahead and start as you peruse the semi final list of nine just up and down are there any highlights or lowlights or things that you would kind of if you were talking to this list with some new or Rube are. There are any things that you would talk specifically about. I think overall it's a solid list. I think there's a weak spot in the list but I think I could speak pretty well about eight of the nine one of them. I'm maybe a bit lacking in their resume and not quite sure. Why they're there all right. What do you think of the list overall? I actually thought it was a really good list. I'm Kinda like John in terms of There there were wondered. I wasn't sure about the beyond the list but it could be. You know not knowing the resume. So but Overall I thought it was very solid all right or your thoughts on the list. They're all way cooler than me. Man so I think it's pretty solid list all right. So are we gauging a hall of fame list? By how cool they are. Compared to you. I would think so. I think that'd be very popular. So everybody's getting into the hall of fame all right all right. Jeff Rice Doug Shining John. Solberg right here so jeff. Let's start with you peruse list and give me your three. I will write down everybody's list here and then we'll see if we don't come up with a unanimous three right off the bat who's going in I for Jeff Right Joe Joe. David's Okla Oklahoma Jeff Right. That's number one number two going in the League for me me had no particular order. Of course don't who number three for just desert has a rare. It was a girl we play travel softball with Another pitcher my oldest was the pitch and the MOM's name was does ray and every time I see her. I'll out of know why I say that just my thing anyway totally strenuous. Doug your three hold on. Let me give you your own heading on my paper number one in particular order four. Doug going in okay. Well I've actually had three different lists one after Darren. He voted him out after he talked. He talked me out of being in it and then oh I thought well maybe the three from last year and then I heard diversity a lot in the barbecue hall of fame. The people that were actually you know to to nominate so I went with diversity so you can break it up. Is Restaurant is Franklin Desert? Rodney Rodney I went desharnais competition and so does raise. My first choice under restaurant convoluted all right. Go has no competition. Bill Arnold. Darren Leeann you have to go with the Goat Darren Darren and then other is Joe Davidson meathead and Jon Marcus. And that was a tough one. No doubt and so. I go meet head off. Okay let me quickly look here Who was the first one? Did you say desert under restaurant? I'm sorry my Their boom boom right. Now we go over to the Michigan correspondent. John Sold Work and no particular order John. Of course your first desert all the way number one well guess what we have does array as a okay. Actually I haven't given mine yet. She's GonNa be in there but spoiler alert number two four. Jon Jon Marcus ooh him right. Rounding out the third four John Over Darren worth. Wow Erin worth right now. Greg's list than I gave my list also last week however I have not made eighteen other lists I will remain with I. Original Three meathead is an number two and this makes it unanimous does Ray Robinson is in so will mark her over as number one. And then three Darren worth so. Let's quickly go through and see who we have? So Jeff voted for meathead and Doug voted for be Ted and I voted for meathead. So guess what number two in the final twenty twenty list is meat. He's got majority vote. Three of four. That seventy five percent. Who else do we have? We Have A. That's does ray beat him a and be a meet hand. We have doesn't Ray. Johnson does ray we have Darren goat. We have be Darren Johnny so Derek. Yes right here. We go your twenty twenty barbecues Central Hall of that may or may not be named tomorrow and if can you imagine guys if we call it right here on this show through this very unscientific process of picking out. Who would be the class tomorrow? We could probably be like the four. Most successful weatherman in the history of weathering we immediately start a channel online. And just start predicting the weather this. This would be an absolute coup in case you're tuning in late. The Barbecue Central Show picks of the hall of fame going in first and completely unanimous desharnais Robbins from cozy to Barbecue Memphis staples course number two the second Tuesday of the month recurring an already a barbecue central show guest hall of Fame Member Me. Fed from MAZING RIBS DOT COM and rounding out the three the most pro lifted barbecue competitor. Ever on the face of the Earth Darren Ward from Iowa John is that a list that you saw happening out of this group. Yeah I could see that happening. Absolutely Doug is this the list that you envisioned actually thought Jon. Marcus might get a couple of votes from from our group so jeff. What did you think about the list the something that you thought would come from this brain? Trust yeah pretty close. I was thinking Jon Marcus myself but he is kind of number four that you you did not you did. Not just below the load all over. I mean come on relax what are you what are you? What are you thirteen getting your first piece being relaxed? Pal and slow. Roll this date all right so when I look at this list I. I'm surprised that I am both surprised and not surprise. The Darren is on this list. I I do buy into a little bit of what Doug saying. Darren goes out of his way in fact. I had texted him earlier and said. Hey as we announce tomorrow if you are named can I attempt at making a phone call to you for like instant reaction and he said sure? But I don't plan on you calling the anyway. I'm still too young. I don't know if he's just being modest or if he really feels like that but he's certainly comes across as being very genuine when he says it which makes me WANNA buy back my want to stick him in there but the votes don't lie. I mean he's in that list here so we'll see how it goes and I tend to agree to. I thought Jon Marcus might have been a little bit more represented here in the list considering the amount of people that he is inspired although one album me ask you this Jeff. Do you know John. Marcus be anything other than somebody that does barbecue television. That's kind of how I know him. Obviously from the pitmasters so and that inspired me. Let's say from watching that stuff to start my own youtube channel. They can do it while I can try to. Really that inspired you to do that. The pitmasters show day. I mean I mean well the pitmasters show. Yeah when you watch it and it's like okay. I'm a backyard barbecue guy but when you see that you can be entertaining in May content. Yeah it was. It was a big thing. I don't watch a lot of that back when it was first started. Jeff I want to throw this back in your face but you did not vote for John Mark at all now. I know I didn't dare. You went with desert desert just because I think she's worked really hard in Memphis and the way that You know her husband died. She still kept on pushing a man. I mean just think she's strong woman and she deserves to be honest with you Dog Are you How how do you? What do you think of John? Marcus when you hear his name is it solely television. Yes solely television. But wasn't he isn't an Emmy Award winning person as well as like know from the cosby show and that sort of thing so producer writer late line cosby show co creator of different worlds spin off of the cosby show. I mean the list goes on From from a barbecue. Tv aside. I mean certainly. We know he's successful but is there anything other than the TV. Show that you relate. I guess what I'm trying to not so subtly ask is when you listen to the show back from last week. They all talked about wanting to see a fairly diverse bill of skill. That this person or that person has brought forward so do you think the John Fits a diverse bill or is he specific niche. Yeah I think he of fit in my other non restaurant non-competition kind of category. So that's what I put him in. So yeah he has a specialty meat head does to Joe Davidson did to. They're just in different areas. John Do you think that Jon Marcus is solely television? That how you think him. When you hear have all disclosure I have never in my life seen Jon Marcus Television Barbecue show. I've never seen barbecue pitmasters. I've never seen one eyed estimates for America. I've never seen one. I gotTa never have. I got to save something for the nursing home head. You've never watched one frigging minute of a bar. One master show ever in your life and on bs at one time never never ever seen it never. I was too busy cooking while you guys were figuring out. Now hold on a second hold on. We're going to quickly go around the day as Doug is John. Lying yes or no. He has to be course. Jeff is is John Lying. He's never wash the minute of barbecue. Pitmasters ever I think it's a white lie. I think he's just kind of forgot that is. I didn't have them nation America when it was on. I wasn't even aware it was happening. John I hate to say this but the Aligarh Aligarh John they learn. We'll take you at your word would be talking and none of us would be here talking. If it wasn't for Jon. Marcus youtubers would not have been inspired. I wouldn't be in this chair. You know the the what happened with John. Mark is dead is way above and beyond me not watch his show and I think history will bring that to be the truth. Are you really saving pitmasters for the adult diapers? I've never seen one of those either. Okay well I've never seen a minute of walking that either but I think I can get away with that if I said I never watched a pitmasters show. Somebody might flip lit all right here. We go this is the funniest part of the whole. Deal your bridesmaid or number. Four for a completely surprise answer we go to Jeff. Rice had the ups and I said it was it. Cited man was flipping coins this afternoon. On the my last bolt. So Jon Marcus Right. Now either. Desert and I was like flipping coins so hard. Answers number four earned. Franklin Johnson has number four right up his sleeve. Well my number four was meet head. But he's in the runs. I'm sticking markets in my number four five right well. It's either good news or bad news no matter how you look at it My vote for number four and this validates number four John Marks that makes him a bridesmaid and not a bride. Also a unanimous. Seventy five percent winner so once again disarray. Robinson meathead and Darren worth are getting into the hall of fame so shy. Is Jon Marcus Executive Producer of the cosby show? I wrote with one of the most prolific rapists of our time. And he didn't even know what Cosby Kook All right so we have all of that done and we still have a couple of minutes here in this so biggest news story that has overshadow or that has been overshadowed by the Corona Virus John. What are your thoughts? Sorry I heard something I've got to go with your Weber idea. I mean how can you where to go? No Doubt Doug biggest story that This is what they always say like. There was some huge story going and then something else huge hit and it was like the best thing that ever happened somebody who was rolled up into something really bad and it was about ready to go off the rail and then all of a sudden something else happened in boom. They were saved. What do you think Rudy Giuliani road in the never hear about him anymore and all the damn time thought he got and Gosh. No you never hear. His name have heard his name since by law. No Jeff biggest story. That was happening before. Coverted that save their ass when. Kobe hit the Green Bay. Packers drafted a quarterback. My God only somebody in Wisconsin is like twenty four seven Green Bay. That's a that's a huge pole. No doubt I go back and fully solidify. My thought that the Weber smoke fire was really taking huge dumpster. Fire Heat on all of the facebook groups people talking about when is Weber? Going to recall this. I'm bringing my six Weber. Smoke fires back to Lowe's leave him in the trump people. Do you remem there. Were people saying if you just go. Round the back of lows lows can actually return to Weber. So just pick them out of the dumpster. Just they're free for the taking. Take the grease fire and take butter unbelievable what people say on the Internet. All right guys. 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You're listening and watching the Barbecue Central. Show right here on the barbecue central network stick around. Be Right back celebrating. Over ten years prolific and unparalleled live fire barbecue and grilling talk. And yes. It's still being done from Cleveland Ohio. You're listening to the barbecues. Central show the forces shelving brought to you by Smithfield head over to Smithfield dot com throughout the grilling season for recipes. As well as and tricks from world champion. Pitmasters like Chris Lilley Darren wars earn Survi- tastes child's cridland with mouth watering flavor. And no artificial ingredients smithfield fresh pork quite simply the finest port money could buy trusted choice of world championship pitmasters for us at home and at competitions that pride we may or may not have a new story here so we go to the expert panelists from left to right on your screen Say Hi Mattie Ramsey say hi flip on the Mike Good night here we go. Hey in the middle. We have bobbies. Say Hi and Willis say hi right there you go. What's The news story? But we're not going to eat on the microphone or do this. We're going to be professional on my God. Why would you put that in your mouth here? We go. We're getting ready to throw war all right. So what's the news story? Oh my dear Lord. John is crying from the unprofessionalism being exhibited okay. Nasa found a parallel universe where time goes backwards. Oh Yeah Yeah as a joke or is this real. I swear to God. I saw it on twitter. Well then it must be true. What does a parallel universe? Exactly the opposite that would be an opposite universal across parallel great. This was just announced on twitter right well last week. Yeah but it's news like the UFO's are real marley anything about parallel universe. Time travel yes. Time travel is real as government confirmed it right ladies. Welcome to America did Idaho Barbecue Central. Show finale can't wait last week or last week feels like last week. Time has just been ripping by but last month Jeff. Rice and myself were voted. Through in case you missed it. This is what Jeff Rice sounded. Like people don't you stand a child leads a his been or he's going to be an angry young man. Some remember that right ladies you remember that. Yeah. Let's do. This is what Doug sounded like because Doug got voted off just so we can recap quickly sees a friend guys. Remember that he's been a good auto again with the auto. Keep going to define got him send. This was me getting through valid thing. A little eighty around me hit terence Trent dark but show now. This is the fine so ladies any advice to me. Jeff as we are preparing mentally for our live singing. Because I we're going to be playing. Duet a prerecorded duet. I have it ready to go here. Any advise actually. Let's do it like a regular show here. We go before we get to the live. Ladies and gentlemen that's what everybody's tuning in for just like they do. These dumb singing shows Jefferson. I have teamed up for a finale duet. It sounds a little something like this. Sing it if you know. Well walk into the past hundred dollar bills still and I'm the double round round a debt. Everybody down town. Hey say said my whole rounded due to make a lot of knows goes the girls they also route and up and down Broadway. So Roy and say holy ride a cowboy favorite. Save a whole lot. Man I'm seeing and Ling and while the girls long nets down wooded rely show laid over Barade- only John Wayne town when I satellite five. Ride may no. It's say runway Roy in the same. Oh everybody say save a whole ride a Cowboy Rama thoroughbred. That's what she said in the back of my truck bed as is getting dome celebs out on some backcountry role. We were flying high finest learn having a barbecue central time and I was going just about as far shoot of Valuation Cowboy Deputy Celebration Long. Took her ou- gig our dog singer every Willie Nelson Song a think. Oh say they are Roy. The girl everybody says was a whole the cowboy all right there you have it wa the duet of duets quickly. We go to the expert pal in Studio Marley. Your initial thoughts map to be. You can't clap with the microphone on it makes me WanNa blow my Marley your thoughts of the duets. With Jeff. Rice and myself. I think it was pretty good. I think you had for. I feel like you had more heart into it. I like you really remember. This was this was a duet with very distinct harmonization's not saying that you can't say I was better in fact I would encourage however I want your honest the big Marley. Anything ill all right bobby. Your book I thought the harmonizing could have been better. Kissel wasn't going well I feel like the lower part of the song fell. Can you hear me? Yes felt less passionate aren't a matter your thoughts on save a horse ride a harmon news station but definitely been a lot better because sound very good. That's okay. Yeah that's it was good the Harmonization could have been better. The whole song was harming his so that means the homes. I mean although all right doug as you listen to the produced live on your thoughts on. Save a horse ride a cowboy. Are you on mute? Duck this happened in last year on. Yeah I am. I am listening even drinking tonight. First Time time around the show. Good to have you done. I found it interesting. The three ladies didn't accuse either one of you have auto tune and I thought you had the risk from both of you were great and Greg. You really got into the the. We made love kind of song. I try kind of all men. Allman man here John. Your expert opinion on same two cabinet first of all. I assume that was a double ender where you both recorded your and then an engineer melded. Those together S. One hundred hats off to the engineer that one. Thank you. Think individually. Yeah that was that was a stellar mix and I do think individually both audio tracks. Were done very very well and it would be really hard to sink it up. Any better than you did was no distraction to me at all all right so there you go. That's the first parts of our time here this evening and now ladies and gentlemen here comes to the ALLOCCO. The live performance. All right so here. We go to the expert panel of judges once again. It is a unanimous. Vote from you three who goes first jeff or me? Jeff Wow okay jeff goes. I didn't say what happened. Then it would be me. Oh can I say something about the whole how you guys said eat a horse? I'm dying happened at work for somebody said. Oh my God did you eat horse. Lifted them as like actually. Eating horse is not legal and I only know that because of shirt shorts worn her twentieth if the guy who makes him as watching the show I wanted to be watching these twenty horsemen effecting the youth of America Jeff. So you go ahead and give me a finger the finger but a finger of when you are ready to go and I will duck the bed off. You'll be running ladies. What Jeff. Getting Ready Ahead Buddy is burn thing and it makes fiery by a wild fire filled into a ring of fire fell into Burnin. The ring of fire. I went down down down and the flames when and it burns. The ring of fire can sing along. Okay fell into burn ring of fire? A wind down down down the flames win in the ring of fire. The ring of fire the taste sauces. Sweet when hearts like ours. Feel for you like a child. Ooh But the hired Fell into a burning ring of fire. I went down down down. The planes win in Burns burden the ring by fire to burn in the fires. It went down down and the flames in verge spurns agreeing and it. Burns Burns Burns Ring. Fire Fire Fire The ring. There is Jeff right there. Wow we the barbecue ring of fire. Judges are all over. They like it all so quickly. That over to the judges for their expert. Opinion Mattie go head great question okay go ahead while no. Oh yeah you probably could see them right. Jeff weren't looking. Yeah he was. He was being distracted. Take go ahead. Mattie with your thoughts on music it was bad but at some points when you were kind of like shaking. Your Voice will be banished. Donald like a pirate. I thought sounded. I don't know how often what do you think that I mean. It wasn't bad. I thought it was good. It was probably your best yet but I also think that you went with a safer song. Do you know what I mean. It was good but not risky now. The finale and I was really hoping to be wowed. And I'm getting this from American America's got talent and I just think you could have done something riskier but I think it was good. Really tested her limit. tested the limits again or Marl Marley. Thought I thought it was pretty good. I feel like the song you chose match your song out of all of the songs you sing so fed. Good voice match me. I don't Oh that's fine. Alright Jeff your thoughts on the critique I think overall they were saying that By and large and coming from a live perspective which is doubly hard to do. This could be your best effort yet while I appreciate it. You know I get where they're saying that maybe push myself but I am not a Rockstar. Even if I look like one so I mean I worked hard at it. I worked at art at it in decided yesterday. That was going do this so there was a lot of preparation. Well I mean. That's one of the things that you have to really strive for. Is Preparation weeks in advance of prepping the throat and getting sure that everything is ready to go all right so that is UH is Jeff Rice. You will have one week to vote before we pick a winner next week. So Jefferson vote for him Girls who do you want to hear next Me Well it's GonNa be me. It's only me and in Rice robot so let's go ahead and vote now as we talk about unsafe songs. I believe the song. I'm about the saying as unsafe as again pushing all of the limits. In fact I'm going off the chair so I could make sure that I opened up my diaphragm enough so I can even attempt to get these notes. I gotTa make sure that I have proper social distancing for the bike so I don't blow the capsule off five hundred or give corona viruses right button. We know what song you're singing Probably not say A mid nineties be smash by Brian. Mcknight called anytime soon have never heard of it. Well let me put you on Mute K. To while the universe I give you a live version of Brian. Mcknight's anytime who why we fell apart but some the ned was so man to be forever. Was the problems thin palm but long Laura you all do. I have across yum in time do you. Well Wake Abu Read Jeanne me. Do I ever cross dumb and turn Amiss. Ou still have your picture Fred. Hear your footsteps down the Ho. You'll drive me and say how that you would. I am across young any time. Do you wake up reits in from the do I am Yum and a Mris a mess. You get back on the share and we open up the microphone or little instant feedback. All we go to Bobby I here. We go okay critical. Here we go. Let's have it both barrels I liked the song I'm sorry bomb. I liked the song you had like a brass your voice. It sometimes and at certain times it also sounded like it load very well and sounded very good but then I think what's your reach up there little. It was a little bit nodded lowey but I mean I liked it. Did I push my limits? I don't know what guy I don't know. I can't tell Jeff that he didn't push it can because his was like Like the whole song. Well that in like it's to be Nice Jeff's on the phone still right no. It's not the blues was more of a simple song. Years was lesser of a simple song. But I definitely think if a door be or whatever by Harry styles yes that would have been your limits. Yes not pushing a great song. I know yes. You could've pushed or all right. Matt your thoughts. I thought it was good. Wow Up Tomorrow. Marlee your thoughts But as some of those those were just a little rough but otherwise was pretty. Now we go to the off judges. Doug your thoughts. I actually thought you should have been given credit for testing pushing the limits that song but unfortunately I didn't know the song so but anyway but yeah I. That was a great effort for doing it. Live John Solberg. Thought I don't know you pull that off not standing up because that was high. I thought it was. I thought it was way above your what I would call your normal rain so I think I think it sounded great. I think you're right on it. Jeff Rice your thoughts. You certainly can carry a tune my friend. Oh yeah well right back at frame. Johnny cash heard and with Kenny Top Hat by the way so keeping costume with the duet. So here's what you need to do. Everybody listening tonight everybody. This includes the judges and everybody in the chat room. Everybody who listeners. Over the course of the next handful. Today's email me who was number one and who was number two and we will rejoin next week for the results show where we will cap a winter. We will have a donated prize pool by sponsor of one hundred thousand dollars which is great. So we're looking forward to giving that also a five year recording contract through Sony records absolutely not happened no way so there. You have it In a week. We'll have the results. Don't forget we will be here. Live tomorrow for the big announcement of Barbecue. Hall of fame Bobby do you have a thought on who might be the barbeque pack? That's that's Jeff Rice. Who saying the barbecue ring effect hat or watching the show that they're on on the phone. I WanNa know what I looked like. I tried to work in a live feed but it didn't work out Girls do you have any thoughts on Barbecue Hall of Fame Marley? Anybody thinks it's GonNa get in this year. No Bobby your thoughts. The girl the girl. That's right there is a be two girls Mattie. You're an all right. We're topical is always here Buddy Oda so the four Tuesday of the month you can find the embedded correspondents right here by the way Aside from finding out who wins. Next week we're done with singing's season one of the Barbecue Hall of fame is over. Let me try to get season. One of American Idol Barbecue Central Show Hall of fame though and we'll see if there is interest for season two ladies. Would you be judging a season to if we have to ask? Will you be singing for a season? Yes yes in the meantime you can find John Solberg. Being the Michigan correspondent you can find the longest running embedded correspondent doug shining in Texas and the newest embedded correspondent. Jeff Rice in Wisconsin. Guys appreciate you doing this. Little Fun thing over the last handful of months. Jeff appreciate you actually sacking up and singing live. That's absolutely fabulous bottom balls. That was pretty nerve wracking for me. Actually and I don't get nervous on the show. He's grade So there. We go all right ladies. Thanks for coming in as always appreciate your time as well a great night. Everybody talk after this belief. We'll talk talk talk. Talk Guys Thanks so much and we will catch you again next month on the barbecue central show with the embedded correspondents. There we go right now. Where am I over his the talk-back fans podcast and you're lifting to barbecue? Central show the incomparable host? Greg Ready Unproductive Network thirty. Get back on track here here. We go. Let's wrap up this second hour an show right after this sticker All packers full racks. Legs and size injecting butts. We've never heard this before you might think you found the best triple show ever. Let's get back to the most homo erotic host other today right. Welcome back this portion of shopping brought to you by the smoke sheet. A free weekly newsletter. That keeps you in the know on everything happening in the barbecue. 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556: Habs Overpaid to Re-sign Ducharme; Tampa Trashes the Cup; Thoughts and Prayers for Koepka

The Steve Warne Project - Sports

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556: Habs Overpaid to Re-sign Ducharme; Tampa Trashes the Cup; Thoughts and Prayers for Koepka

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Sports whatever it is former tsn. Radio cronies steve warne. And jim jim all jimmy going. Should we spend a few minutes tv before we start the show before we launch. Maybe we could get some people to email. But i could probably do it right now for you to help you. How to to boost a car. Steve can we. Can we teach you that okay. We were talking off air here. Nobody does what you did. Steve red goes on the poll. Stevie okay the black one not on the black poll it goes onto the frame of the car somewhere steve. It's the grounding cable. Okay otherwise you're you're you're at risk i know. But i'm doing that way. My whole life and mitch charging cars my whole life and have always gone red clamps on red terminals bringing clamps on black terminals and i found out today. That's just bad news. It's going to mock up your computer could blow fuses worse. Ed idea you know. People are looking ways to make money right right now. Different ways right. Covert covert is kicked. His shit out. Everyone you bring that up about boosting car. So i know a guy. Who's an uber driver. So he drives uber. But it's not very busy anyway. It's the summertime. It's just that was busy in the winter. Of course it's more busy for obvious reasons. And what he did is he he. Maybe you could do this now that you know how to boost car say i've done it my whole life that when he was flying. Yeah lucky. you're lucky you didn't blow up. So he threw up an ad on kaji. Okay or somewhere. He threw it up. That i'll boost your car for twenty five bucks. And he's he's quite busy really. Yeah yeah it shows up. Yeah boost your car. You know remember cab. Drivers used to do that in the old days. But i wanna mock that. But i can't because. Obviously i don't know how i may. I may be a little situation. Steve speaking of that. I had my car detailed stevie for a lot of money. Okay the guy convinced me to do this. For seven hundred and fifty dollars. Okay do to get it steamed out and get the smell of the smoke out to get all that done they do the header stevie okay the liner roof of the car. All the little nooks and crannies even the ones that you can hardly get a fingernail in there right. They've got all these systems right and they do it. Also the guy finishes it's a russian outfit. Steve that runs it okay Yeah boris and his partner yet. We will dell your car for you jim. Okay this this thing right. Kind of kind of scary steve okay. The both of them might be a front right this thing. It might be a front right for russian mafia or something steve. Sure anyway. I go pick the car up stevie i look at it not bad. They missed a couple of things. Steve okay a couple of things. I don't know for the seven fifty. Okay that i would have expected steve. They would've not missed anything right. Okay so i said look down here you know when the brake pedal in your gas well to the left of your brake pedal. There's there's this little place you can rest your foot to. The left of the brake pedal is there. It's all dirty i said. Hey ebor you'll get down here and clean this and he said it's fine. Do have trouble with that okay. I'm going to get the puck jump in my car. Stevie radio doesn't work doesn't work and so off to the radio place to guy like everything comes on but there's no volume leave it with them and the guy comes back and goes. Yeah there's a there's a big bass speaker in the back of my truck stevie okay and and where the bay speakers. That's where the amplifiers to the guy goes someone just fried this thing. It's fried cheese okay. From so we find out from this heavy steam cleaning that they did. They just took the steam things and fired it into the speaker. The grill just went over that. Yeah so we're into a thousand bucks stevie to fix it. Now i gotta go to the russian guys and say okay boy yo miyaji note here okay. Avoided the parts. I don't think so jim. All keep you posted okay. This thing hasn't been settled yet. I've got a great motto for them. As a russian mechanic i could take a cue from evonne drago. The russian heavyweight who took on rocky their motto could be the vix car. if it dies it dies. oh. I hope. I hope not. I hope no fine. It'll be scary rush. Indeed car detailer guys. Yeah so russia's tough man 'cause we had a. We had a russian in here who laid down our hardwood at the same time they were cleaning are ductwork and so all the guys are down the basement. I've been old home as you know. And they actually uncovered it in near one of the interior windows. Those actually a wasp's nest in this sort of whole am no. I have no idea how wasps got in there. But did and so the duct workers. The guys were cleaning the ducks they said. We can't continue well. We're we're not doing this. Oh the rush. The russian hardwood guy heard about it. He just bar and he march downstairs reaches in there with a gloved hand just grabs the hive and goes oh you'll solved and through it and just threw it in the field in the backyard and And the dockworkers workers were able to go on with their day. Yeah when i was at the detail shop. I saw these guys you know they. They opened up the car. Door of a car is really dirty and the two of them are just. You know they're. They're all rushing their stevie and if any one rush like that just like that must be a common thing prior. I like that and then he ran straight into a wall. This face and said why this'll be fine. They're tough they are tough. Yeah just for laughs. Easy could do that stuff. Yeah i don't wanna get into war with them to be honest. No this be is north. America's like like. We are super sensitive now in thoughtful. Like crazy right now and we make sure that everybody's included and that's a good thing but if it came down to hand to hand combat with us and the russians were mother rauscher straw and they do not have some of the same ideals that we do. I don't think it would go very well for us. I'm going russia. Yeah i'm you get along with the russians. I think the albert canadian tire commercial right. We're gonna go e or e love it by the way you better wide you fire piece of paper over your camera lens you can only see you kind of in a translucent sorta way right now but what's wrong i find myself so i don't know what you're talking about leno because you fired a piece of paper over top of your camera lens there you are. That's you know what you're up to behind that thing steve. It's the high level very expensive microphone. Cover there you go. It's an old freezer. Locked bag. Steve with old pork chops. I didn't bother cleaning it out. So that's nice. You're you're treating your microphone. Well you never used to treat the equipment very well in the studio when we're at tsn twelve hundred to the point that you were just basically throwing things into the fan that we had in the studio through in there would get shredded up and be all over us all over the equipment and stuff and you're like the funniest thing i remember that. Yeah covering up your mic gyms radio okay. People can't see okay. Yeah yeah sorta funny but not. Don't do it again. I guess jumping. We've got lots of sports stuff to get to a nice to see the montreal. Canadians rewarding dominic ducharme with a new three year extension and the canadians head coach. Lead them surprisingly non going more. I'm going shockingly to the stanley cup final. this year gets paid. Although i think it might be a bit of an overpayment to be honest. Like here's a guy who's only ever been an assistant coach and not for very long in the nhl. And he gets the interim label removed here. So he's now permanent full-time head coach for the next three years. Did the montreal. Canadians really need to give him one. Point seven million a year. Oh my god. The coaches are making. Now well best. Well i mean when babcock was in toronto. Get six mil per year. And but i'm thinking. Kim million should cover this your. What are you going to say. You're dominic ducharme. You've just gotten your dream job. What are you gonna say. Ain't gonna hold out for one seven right right. So it's to be a mill. I guess. Now steve every coach i don. I just don't think. I don't think there's a union or anything or a minimum wage right and i'm not that worried about it because it's not my money and if i was a fan you can't worry about it either because it doesn't affect his salary cap so fill your boots. It's your life. But i didn't think you needed to spend one point seven million a year for dominique. Ducharme right la. Allow me to read steve. Speaking of that the speaking of signing guys pierre mcguire deal with ottawa. We all know that by now so my brother tex me. He says sends hired pierre mcguire. Of course of course. Marcus smart did he goes my friend. Said they hired the announcer guy that keeps getting hit in the head with pox. Oh he's more than that. That's on their heads anyway. Step aside stevie for a second good for him good for ducharme. Npr npr mcguire. We mentioned in our last episode about the fact that over his broadcast career there've been gm openings and he was mentioned for those gm openings. And i think probably in his heart of hearts the job he would want most would be the general manager of the montreal canadians and maybe the most ironic thing in the world. maybe if If that job were to come open like a day after you accepted sort of an assistant. Gm gig with the ottawa. Senators right if you look at elliot. Friedman's thirty one thoughts on friday. A he makes reference to how mark berge vamp may not be all in for next season also in his indices in media availability. Berge of said. I have one more year under contract and i will honor that. He added the last sixteen months. Were tough on me mentally. It was very difficult. Prior to the end of the regular season. there was plenty of reason to believe owner geoff. Molson was firmly in berge of as corner and at offer the gm and extension but one source warned to be careful he said berge van was burnt out and may not want to return so the great red suit not a guaranteed to be back next year. The montreal canadians and the flowing locks the flow in great salt and pepper locks. They're mostly mostly pepper or mostly salt. I guess Well you hear this from time to time stevie right where you just assume guys in positions in sports stars who sought in football. And now maybe we're going to see it in in hockey where we think. It's the plum job we think it's an unreal deal. The guy just finished going to the stanley cup final. How bad can it be. And then you get a guy going. I don't wanna maybe do it anymore. I'm not sure. I'm not sure you know. I think people are considering their mental health. And all that stuff steve. From you know there's part of it too he's been there awhile and if you go back to earlier this year remember this year as as much as everybody celebrating the montreal canadians right now. This is a fan base and montreal media. That was getting sick of the canadians. Act to the point where they fired. Head coach claude julia. After a month dominic do sharm got the job in an intra basis. He's fulltime now. And even mark berge man was heavy under fire right around the time clock. Julia was being fired. People were saying things like oh yes to fire. Another coach will mark berge uva and his architecture on this team. So i'm thinking always like to put myself in a person's shoes and what what mark bergeford must be thinking right now after the topsy turvy year he had. He's a god by the end but at the earlier part of the other people who wanted him fired and if perhaps go sideways right now like early next season it won't take long before people get frustrated like what happened. What did you do to this team or whatever. Why didn't you sign this guy. Why didn't keep that guy just looking at it if it his stock is personal stock. Couldn't possibly be higher than it is right now. And so maybe maybe. He's got some aspirations because he's one of the most popular personalities in all the nhl like he's one of the funniest guys in the league right and so he's got lots of contacts and maybe there's potential for work elsewhere as a gm somewhere else. I don't know but it's certainly something to think about if you're going okay is my stock guinea higher if i play out the final year of my contract because i think anything less than a stanley cup final people kind of look june. Go right now. You didn't really get the job done this year. And the likelihood is they're not going back to a stanley cup final right and generally everyone wants eighty-eight action here steve. We want immediate results right. It's it's it's that day you know especially in sports right well. Let's do the math. Only one guy wins it. Only one guy wins. It's so you know. I was reading a piece today that liam mcguire put out about the hiring of pierre. Mcguire and You know he. They're good friends So he sort of had a biased but he was he was had mentioned that you know and and talked about this thing about a media guy coming into the front office and you know he compared pierre mcguire and that situation where they took a media guy and he looked at john davidson. Okay john davidson was a play by play guy for many years right on night in canada so he got a kick at the can. Okay not only do you get kick at the can. He's been the general manager or president with three different hockey teams over the last fifteen years. Okay yeah fired by the rangers. This year he just got hired by columbus about a month ago right and he might have been in saint. Louis i forget who the third team was that he was. He was columbus twice as a second go around. That guy has won two rounds of the playoffs. Only steve really is done shit as limbs said done. He hasn't done anything. So whatever that means version will be fine. You know by the way berge van was a roommate of jeff cardinals. Okay and When you brought up that he's funny he's dropped it funny the stuff he's done. I've told it before but when they were in a rooming together on the road and the drill is stevie curfew. You know the night before the game. You're in the hotel you've got to be in the room by eleven or or ten thirty and then the drill. Is you watch a little tv or your order room service. Stevie that a lot of them do that. Let's get some pie and ice cream okay and So that's what they do They or the pilots and there's a knock at the door you room service and berge van says to jeff you get it and just get you get you know. And and so he's the greatest practical joker so jeff opens the door and here's version van going. Oh jeffey get that ice cream in here baby right and curtain going. What the fuck berge had made. Jeff's bed okay. Like no one slept in. It crawled underneath the sheets of the bed and pulled them up over his head and lied. Spread eagle stephen laid on the bed spreading underneath the sheet and the guy was pushing the cart in with brilliant. Shit is he was the same guy when they were down in a playoff game and there were frequent down they let in a soft three or four in the period. And they're going into the third he was injured. Couldn't play and they're all sitting there with their heads down on the equipment's often soaking wet and trying to regroup for the third and all of a sudden they hear the kung fu fighting blasting through the dressing room. You know steve. Everybody was kung fu the absolutely. They're fast as lightning. And it's berge chevette. Who had found one of those those michelin man outfits You know the the beginning. Yeah the pillsbury dough boy fit and came marching out into the middle of the dressing room during the sumo suits. The sumo suits. Yeah anyway funny side note of what version so yeah. I guess these guys will be okay. You know if. John davidson can last as long as he has. I don't know who the other guys are. You know oilers seem to be starting to whip through. I thought she rally would be the guy here for a long time anyway. Good bar haven boy. There and certainly i thought he was going to His stock couldn't been higher when they he wins the stanley cup with the boston. Bruins in twenty eleven. He was so highly sought after At the time he was the assistant. Gm here in ottawa. They decided okay. We're gonna stick with john. Michael i think it was at the time and she rarely went off and was those edmonton muckler. I came to edmonton for sure. So yeah he's a. Unfortunately these didn't go very well in ed. Where's he no. I wonder shirley right somewhere not not hang on. Let me check standby you title check. Everybody was. I'll do the music under everybody was kung fu fighting than those fast. As like the lenten. Dan dini everybody was kung fu grasshopper. Comedian friend of mine needs to a little on that member grasshopper. If you can snatch the pebble from my hand it will be time for you to go. And he never cut right. Stevie chai quyen. Whatever his name was right he couldn't do it. David kennedy right and so this comedian. Buddy might get a routine if you can snatch the. Hey wait i wasn't ready. Put it back what it back. I wasn't ready. So is he was. Let go in january of two thousand nineteen by the oilers and that's where the resume stops. I don't know if he's working right. Now yeah just curious speaking speaking to recycling guys. sorry. I was fooling around by newton. I dare you dare you. How dare the tampa bay lightning glowed and dent lord. Stanley's holy grail the stanley cup. I if you saw this thing like you know if you look down at the stanley cup and drink out of it. You're looking at a perfectly round bowl. Sure now its triangular. Oh oh they really hammered at all my god. It looked like somebody. You know the the same way pete. Townsend would smashes electric guitar. Looked like somebody grabbed the base of the stanley cup and smashed it on something. No well yet badly dented. It'll be fine of course and they've had all kinds of things happen to it. I always i was kind of snicker. When i see people drink out of the stanley cup. Knowing that kris draper's baby took a giant dumping it. Yeah y say that man. I'd say that enjoy it. I don't know if i told you yesterday. Stevie i ended up peeing on myself the other day gross. Yeah i'm walking. I had to go for a paean i got. I got into the walked into the bush. Hang on for a second. let's just let's just take a moment and decide you know what even if it means dead air. Let's three four five seconds for you to think right now and decide if it really is podcast. Fodder is a good subject matter for our podcast. Listless steve thanks to forget. Buddy you seem to forget that with my vast experience now in broadcasting. Okay you bring up a baby taking a shift in the stanley cup. Okay baby now we now. We've gone sideways. Now you've brought it left. Okay you've taken this left. Turn which is fine. How do we stay there. The strong segues. Devi whammo baby dumps in the cup. Jimmy pete himself. Okay you're an adult male who is almost sixty years old. Here's that's been really gross compared to a baby have you done five seconds yet. I thought about it all talk. I go into the bush diva. I can't make it home i. I'm still twenty five minutes away. I got my headset in. And so i go into the bush ray to drop trial. Okay dr chow. Got my jong in my hand and stevie a bat. Okay comes flying across in front of me pitch black and freak out of course okay and i wizz all over the place. Okay whiz all right. Let go steve gain i. I was over my shirt my god. Yeah i let go and come on. Don't be. I'm watching usual on you right now. And you're holding that thing like a garden hose come on like just the high of the rifle off. This is not a good role her anyway. It wasn't a bad stevie. Okay what it was. I pulled one of my earbuds out. Okay i got hardwired ones kid. They're wired ones. And and what. I thought was a bat or dragonfly or a robin or something swan. I wasn't sure what it was was actually just earbud dangling above the arm. tv mistook it for god Anyway okay that reminded me of one of the great tv moments in history on curb your enthusiasm larry. David there was an episode. Where larry david goes Visiting this mom and her teenage daughter and needs to use the washroom very religious family uses the powder room and while he's in earlier he'd had to take this medication that gives you a heavy stream your and while he problem. Yeah and so. He's he's in there and all of a sudden the face the physical comedy there and the facial expressions as he's going it's like you just had a moment ago like it was like this uncontrollable fire hose just and it was just outstanding and and then because it was all this splashing going on and this is a religious family. They've got a picture of jesus on the wall and a drop of urine is just like a teardrop on sheer. so the the mongo's in later and says all fine and they go on this crime and so he. The family goes on this nationwide. Jesus tour no. Because larry david did that any. It's very funny. Should i will look at it. Where where we now Davidson those signings. Yup the stanley cup got damaged. And the the other bit. Nhl news Packer in as retiring seventeen years with the same organization. The nashville predators helped them to a stanley cup. Final one year. I think it was pittsburgh. And i wanna see two thousand eighteen six say but a great career and So kind of a passing of the torch and end of an era in nashville there and same kind of deal with the minnesota wild today. They bought out a couple of guys who to me jimmy. It felt like five minutes ago. These guys were regarded as absolute. Nhl studs even fringe nhl. Fans would know the names. Zach parisi and ryan suter both have threat few of great suitor. Who played for calgary. Gary suter yes good one. Speaking of him and children's go for pin on the side of a bar outside all your all your urine trivia right here on the s. wbz. How's that parisa is the son of j p parisa. Who's on team. Canada's seventy two summit series but both those guys zach breezy and route ryan suter side thirteen year contracts and the money. That's going out the door for the wild for them to not play for the wild anymore. We're talking like ten million dollars a year for two or three years is let me find it here. I got is because it is two thirteen year deals. Come well batum four. That was before they were. They banned that in eight year. Eight years became the norm but the numbers with suitor and the biot- is just crazy. I'm just looking forward here. So what else surprise me. You're looking that up when you said who's a goalie pecci arena. Yep that said. He was with national his whole career. Seventeen years i would've gone. National just came into the league about eight nine ten years ago. You know time is flying or russ. Yesterday talked to we recorded suspended. And we're talking about seattle panin and What's it like. If you don't get protected on a team in these expansion drafts. And i said i don't know whether you would know that. Russ not because you know. You probably didn't play at a time when there was any expansion. Okay anyone or an or nine teams. Jim in my career that came into the frequently. Yeah yeah crazy crazy anyway. Where's that time goes. Dv so the contractor. Exactly the same zach parise as contract. This is what his eight years of being bought out. By the minnesota wild will look like this coming year. Two point three million the following year six point three the following year seven point three million the following year seven three point million and Them for the following the next four after that about eight hundred thousand dollars. That's a lot of money to pay a guy to not do anything for you. How's it going. How's they need their those players are dropped off and they need that cap room. So they go. Bob i we're gonna pay you a king's ransom to f off crazy all right. Let's close it out in just a moment with our final thoughts. But i these words. James reignite your love for driving the new ford from jim kaye ford hit the road in twenty twenty one model with your choice of the latest innovations available for a new ford vehicles. These are unconventional times right now. But for your comfort. If you're in the market for a new or pre-owned vehicle how about this jim. Kaye ford will be happy to bring a vehicle right to your home or your place of work for a demonstration and test drive. That is cool. Jim came forward and orleans or jim. K ford dot com trucks and minivans cost less to ensure than small cars. You got a better deal on home insurance. If you have good credit the biggest insurance brokers are owned by insurance companies. 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That's right relief. Pitchers i got up. Got a pitch at least three batters before he can pull him right and the other one was doubleheaders. They're gonna make seven innings. Okay so this is huge news. And everyone's going to do that. And now the commissioners going no. We're not gonna do it anymore right. That's the big news coming out of baseball. Steve massive final thought. Who gives a fuck man. Say just little bit. It's a small headline. it's a good final thought and going back to the way things usually are the final. Thought i would have would be the brooks koepka thing. Of course the british open fires up tomorrow the open championship more hateful today steve than he was two days ago. Well he always seems to be doing something. And and all out of context he might have said like fifty delightful things that make me love him at this news conference but he went down the road with basically the most incredibly first world problem. That's really bugging him right now. He might not win the clara. Claire jug isn't one yet because of this horrifying bit of information and i don't have my chef with me right now original chef. I'd leave my personal chef behind cooking's not not not nearly as good for me and my caddie after trying their best but it's not as good as if my my chef would have made it boy. That's the for the steve. You've got to feel for the guy. Okay come on. How about a little compassion steve. How about a little compassion okay. A little empathy. Steve perhaps even moving into the sympathy field. Okay i'm thinking what do you wanna do like sort of a telethon here on the podcast next week like this. John raise funds breezy easy. And what's his face and brooks offer kept in particular with this horrifying news which he has to go play golf tournament and not have his personal chef. Espousal therapist might not all may also have made the trip. Maybe we know. Maybe it's at shelton. Maybe i maybe some crowdfunding like you know a gofundme page of some kind if this guy stevie if this guy doesn't make the cut or or doesn't win the british or at least place in the top five that shit is on the pg for not making sure. This chef gets there okay. That's shit is to be blamed on the through the commissioner of the pga. What do you expect a guy to do what you expected guide to do. Are you out of your mind. This is atrocious. Well and then royal saint george's we all know that. Royal saint george's is a goat track right and they probably have like the same people who serve food at hospitalised staffer. It's unacceptable. And i won't have it all right. Let's go speechless. Really speech all the best to fuck off rooks. Talk to you next time. All right good night everybody. We'll see you. Thanks for being with us on the s. wp. Please subscribe today for supports. Petri at steve w project dot com.

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Developing, Celebrating, And Validating Esports As A Whole ft. Michael Ashford, CEO Esports Awards

Esports Network Podcast

33:00 min | 2 months ago

Developing, Celebrating, And Validating Esports As A Whole ft. Michael Ashford, CEO Esports Awards

"Welcome into the eSports network podcast talking of course about eSports across the globe and really honoring the people who work in the industry, kind of recognizing what they do and making sure that people are validated in their work. So here to help me do that today, let's welcome in the CEO of the eSports awards. The premiere E sports awards. Of course, Michael Asher, who will be foreign to his mic from now on because it's an easy, simple, good old name, Mike, I do it this morning. I'm very good. Thank you, Kevin. Super excited to be on today. You mentioned it in the start. We're about validation, we're about sort of celebration in this industry. And I think we're in a pretty good place to do that. So excited to be talking with you today. For sure, in course, if you don't know who Michael ashworth is, I don't want to tell you. He's been CEO for a good 6 months now or so. There's been longer than that. I always forget with these these January this year. I kept it under wraps until last month was sort of fixated and focused on works. I wanted to try and get through those things and then one day, John Davidson was like, I'm putting out some content and you make a pretty big announcement and then you should probably strategize around that. So yeah, it's probably a good time. It's a great time apparently 8 months strong now. You're kind of taking the reins now in an interesting time, we'll say. We'll get into that a little bit later. But for now, in case you don't know for whatever reason you don't know what the eSports awards are, you can live under a rock for the longest time. eSports towards obviously award ceremonies celebrating like he said, people in the industry from content creators, the streamers, the personalities, teams. The games themselves. It runs the gamut really in terms of what you guys really kind of recognize and celebrate and build up on the big stage, or the virtual stage if you will, right? Yeah, absolutely. I think one of the key things over the last few years, we strive towards is to be all encompassing and to span the industry. We're very privileged that a lot of the people that work for us are game as fast. And if came from any sports based background. So we all had our own ideologies and best case scenarios of what we wanted to honor and represent in the awards. And that's allowed us to sort of shape the offering. So that you basically get to tell the story of eSports for the sports awards. We have our community awards, which is sort of fan focused and found first. You have our industry awards, which is all of those that are the backbone that allow the industry to actually exist and to thrive in the way it has. You have our pro awards, which are obviously those that are playing and actually deciding these matches going down in legacy on a talent awards, which are those that are bringing the action that the voices we all know the iconic moments, everything we sort of remember from a big play is basically moralized by those who called it. And then you also have the creative awards now, which basically engage us and bring it all together. They tell the stories they show how things work. They create engaging visual packages and all these really cool things that I think we're now industry leading in. No, for sure. I mean, you think eSports awards, you think it's up there with traditional awards, someone's like the Oscars, the Grammys, the Golden Globes, you know, the whole kind of the big tier recognition for people like me. You know, I work in the industry too. I always pay attention to who's kind of winning these awards and eSports awards where I go to kind of realize who is kind of the top dog in this category of work for all of us. But let's talk about you a little bit, Mike. Obviously, you're a young guy, like myself. We're both young folks. We both grew up playing video games, but specifically, what role did gaming have in your household growing up? Yeah, I mean, it was huge. I think our generation really got into it in a big way. There were so many things that sort of preface them gaming, becoming this mainstream thing. And then all of a sudden you could have a consul in your house, and that sort of changed it. So I'm one of three brothers. A younger brother and an older brother. We basically all grew up deciding who was the best at each title as they came out effectively. So one probably not a lot of people know, but both my brothers also work with me here at the eSports now as well. Because it's super exciting. So my older brother Chris is our creative director and is responsible for a lot of the really cool content and things we get to do. Our spotlight shows. A lot of the branding and theming had a good decent hand in our rebrand. This year, which is super exciting. And then we have my younger brother Alex, who is basically sort of our social media manager and is responsible for some of the trolling that goes on in our social media pages, but also a lot of the really cool and intricate stories that we try and interweave in between memes and reactions effectively on that side. So yeah, we all grew up as avid gamers effectively. And probably going back in my first console would have been a snares at that point. Yeah, yeah, great console. Great console. And I remember we had one control and one day we controller changed everything. Absolutely changed everything. Until my older brother died on plugging more controller. So I just thought I was playing right. But we've all had that story growing up. And I think it was a huge huge part. I guess it really opened the eyes that this Titian means something in the moment. And GoldenEye was the big one. Ten to 65. So it was a game changer X had the really good story mode. And you could follow all the different missions and jump off dams and things like that. But it also had a really good multiplayer that was like infamous in our household because we had, I don't know every system you could to try and rig up for controllers and go to split screen. And it became this huge thing. We used to have this massive vendetta against the golden gun being a one tap. And you spent so long trying to find the thing and then one tap each other with it. Just like that. That od job's heart, right? Stay with the big things. But it's like the competition was taken so seriously. And we'd all come up with different strategies and ways of playing it. But I think then stood us on the course that this would always be something that came together. But I think at that point, gaming wasn't cool. It was something you almost had to hide. When you went to school, college, university, it was sort of not as well celebrated at that point. So you're sort of you enjoyed it. Everyone else enjoyed it, but then one sort of talked about that enjoyment in between. And I was definitely that kid who was sat with a Game Boy on the school bus, playing Pokémon. And being bullied for safe from being honest, but I loved that. I was fascinated. I was fixated. I'd have the handheld. I'd have to console at home. And then that became a recurring theme for us. We played sports. We got out and about, but it would always be something that we'd have. And I guess it all became more serious when we went towards PC gaming because suddenly had an Internet connection and it wasn't just you playing GoldenEye against your brothers. You were now playing against players from wherever in the world with ping effectively paying the end. The fact that we're there to decide who you could play against, but my younger brother and I played a lot of RuneScape, which we had a community clan, which faced other clans. And again, that competitive edge would come in. And then when we quit that, I sort of got out of gaming a little bit for a few years. Focused on my studies, focused on sports, but my younger brother stayed in. And he got into a beta for a game called League of Legends. And became a small title over in America has done a couple of things, one a couple of my hours on that side. Pretty company, right? Exactly. And that's what opened my eyes to eSports overall because I'd sort of grown up with all these things of competitive gaming, loving it, but also wanting to hide from it a little bit and shy away because it wasn't seen as such a cool thing. There was a little bit of stigma around it. You were going through, is it healthy to game effectively? Should we be having screen time? And then as soon as he got into League of Legends, he showcased, I think it was maybe the season three whilst the first time skat one won a $1 million in a final. And that was the point where I was like, this is huge. I want a career in gaming and eSports. It just has to be viable. And then from there, it was looking for opportunities in inroads to get in. No, for sure. That $1 million final was definitely something that it's etched into the mind of eSports fans around the globe. So it's funny to me that you brought your brothers are working with you. It's really almost like a family organization for you, right? Is it kind of just a very personal thing to be able to work with your brothers alongside them in this thing you all grew up enjoying and playing with, right? Yeah, it's a really cool thing to be able to do. And I guess sometimes we can definitely take it for granted. We have sibling, rivalry, sibling arguments, and those things that you probably wouldn't get in another workplace, but it's a pretty special place come end of year when you sort of take in how far things grow. And we certainly push each other on to try and keep achieving and doing things and I remember way back in 2016 off the back of the first awards, it was only myself. And I was really having to say like, this thing's real . This is really exciting. It's going to be huge for the industry and getting them involved in that journey. And they were sort of following my career at that point and hearing the stories across a dinner table at Christmas. And then all of a sudden, I need more people around me that get this and have that sort of intrinsic. I grew up gaming. I follow everything. I understand it. Knowledge to them to come in and sort of help shape some of the elements that I wanted to achieve in the company. So obviously they have different rules of aside from yours. You're pretty much what they would call the big boss, which I'm sure no resentment from brothers there, right? Nothing too big there. Nothing at all. But your role kind of provides a different perspective on things and your brother's roles provide them. You've worked with different clients across the years. But really, what is your experience been like in working with clients and in eSports and how does it impact your view on things like marketability and focusing on partnership brands and things of that nature that really we take for granted now and eSports? Yeah, I think it's incredible. And it's been a really cool journey because we started doing this before there was franchising before Overwatch existed effectively. And that was a very different time in eSports. It was this huge marketing beast where every major sponsors trying to find their way into it. It was a time when no one really understood it. There was no rulebook. There was no playbook, and it was very different to understand. So you had these sort of these huge brands at the time that had been Staples for so long. But there was still a lot of identity to build. I think 2018 when you had these franchises coming to exist, you have the Overwatch league coming together. It was the super exciting time for everyone. But it was also a time of bedding in for the global audience because suddenly they had hundreds of teams coming out of nowhere. They all had huge budgets behind them, but no brand identity. They had no way of really engaging or standing for something, which is a pretty confusing time. And I think fast forwarding to 2021, brands have now found what they want to represent and they understand that doesn't always have to be just this huge winning pedigree. Of I want to win every single tournament. It's actually whilst competing for trophies and competing in tournaments weekend week out. I want to stand for all these different things, whether it's sustainability in the case of fly quest where they really want to focus on how do we create a better planet alongside having this really cool team in eSports, which has been a really cool place to be. And you're saying that happened across the board now where teams want to stand for something and have an identity and I think we've got to see a lot of that. But we're also one step to touch because we don't compete with anyone. And effectively, we just want to celebrate and make everyone look like rockstars within the industry. Every time they do something really cool. So we get to work with those teams. We get to represent them. We get all of them effectively is probably the easiest way of putting it. And along that way, we ourselves have got to work with some of the biggest brands in the world. And I think we're really be a launch part for a lot of them as they've came into eSports because we started as a small UK based brand. We worked with a lot of UK based sponsors. And then a sort of grown from there and sort of resonated globally and really been the first point for a lot of these brands coming in. Lexus is always going to be the big big example. They came in in 2019 and did a really cool proof of concept with us. We got to do some really cool stuff with their cars. We had the car for Men in Black four. We had the car from the film in our ceremony. With our host interacting and doing a lot of stuff with it, fast forward to the pandemic. And we built this really cool CGI spectacle, which was innovative. It was built in the Unreal Engine and basically turned the eSports awards into a living breathing game. Within this sort of digital studio, which was really cool and Lexus really bought into technological innovation and came in as our title sponsor. And it's been really cool to see them off the back of the trust. They put into us and the results we've delivered, go out into the industry and do more. They've actually built a Lexus game of car, which is really, really cool that they built alongside Twitch. And now they're obviously one of the key sponsors of a hundred thieves as well. So I've shown that the trust they had in us and the results we've delivered has now led to them being able to do so much more in the industry. I'm really becoming a key name and a household name within eSports gaming. So super excited. So I guess there's a lot of pride for us in what we've managed to achieve with sponsors and partners today. And I guess we just want to keep telling those stories and building a really cool platform. No, I mean, you're doing a great job of it so far. And obviously, you have experience outside of eSports industries. Before you came on, I guess, you came on as the managing and then later or marking direct to right for you. So eSports awards and you kind of moved into the CEO role a while ago. And so what was an important lesson that you kind of had to figure out before you moved into eSports awards even before you moved into the CEO or what was it? Let us know like, man, looking back on this, this was a really important thing I had to learn and I'm glad now that I had that kind of skill set. Yeah, I think that's a really good question. I guess I've said it a few times, but I think making this matter year round was the pivotal point in the awards because as I mentioned, we were here before franchising. I would say we were here before the money. And we were doing this for the right reason, which means it was a tough come up to being an award show in eSports and really wanting to do this at the level that eSports deserved, even at that stage. Overall. So for me, it was really understanding when you build something like this. How do you make it resonate and matter for long enough that you can actually create a system that will attract some of those major sponsors? And in 2016, when the curtain closed, we all pad each other on the back. But then it was, well, the lights can't go out until this time next year because how do we know anyone will actually tune in and watch it? How do we know it matters? And for me, obviously, in a marketing based role, it was all around, well, how do we tell the story? How do we get people in tranche? How do we make sure that we're documenting all of these huge events that are happening year on year? Won't mean as much now and you won't realize, but when you come back to look on it, shaped our industry into what it will be in the future. So it became we need to create more content. We need to be able to have this campaign that launches alongside the start of the season. And then tells the story as we go throughout it. So it was creating more content minutes, building out our spotlight shows. And I think giving fans and also the community a way to interact and show their support via the voting mechanisms and all these elements. I think that was a huge key. It's understanding how do you create this content and tell these stories without creating fatigue. Around the awards platform on premise. And really build something out. That matters. And I think that's been sort of a 5 or 6 year mission that we're just starting to I think really get to grips with now and do some really cool stuff with. No, for sure. And so obviously it's not traditional role. You would say it's a really kind of a job application you fill out. You know what I want to be the managing director of eSports awards and just follow up this job application send it away and they'll call me up later. How did you end up getting into the awards and then really becoming the CEO as it was more of an intricate kind of dancing you had to go through to kind of become who you are in the company today? It's a fairytale story again. I'm waiting for Hollywood to give me a call around it, right? Yeah. Yeah, I guess there's no vocation that prepares you for it. I've always been a big fan of bringing skills into eSports from other backgrounds because we are such a young industry. And there's a lot of really, really good people out there who may not be eSports first. I have some awesome awesome ways of bringing skills into it. So I was lucky that hopefully I've been able to do both, right? I came in from marketing. So I had a first class on his degree in marketing. I had certification from the chart institute of marketing for the highest market and marketing degree at that point. And I'd worked at a number of blue chip companies helping them to grow, create presence, tell the story of that brand, really come into this at the same time. I was a gamer growing up. I played all these titles. I was fluent in them. I understood them. And then I guess other things include down. We watched a lot of WWF now WWE programming. So we got to see how do they create entertainment, right? Because they're by their own mean sports entertainment. They don't claim to be a professional sport. But what they do do is create all these packages that tell a story that in gross and audience and engage an audience into watching all of the outcomes for our year with not something that I took very seriously is how do you do that? How do you build all these things that matter and resonate? And even looking forward to that, like the fact they had a Hall of Fame. And they were bringing all these guys that had built the industry in professional wrestling into a Hall of Fame. And I was like, these are all the anecdotes and things that eSports is going to need. That will matter at year in year out going forward. So I guess for me it was sort of I was looking for my role in eSports and gaming from a blue chip background and sort of seeing what would matter, but not wanting to go down the traditional approach of trying to start a team or trying to get in a team that was already there. I wanted to see if there was a way that we could build something that would have a foundation and a footprint that hadn't been done before in eSports and gaming, always being done very well so that we could have that. We built this. It resonates and it's here because of us type vibe to it so that I could add that value to the industry. So I had a chance to encounter with our previous CEO and now a board member in Tom mercy in London. We spoke around the concept and the idea for it. And I fell in love from there. So I guess for me at that stage, there was a lot of innate value I could add because at that point, it wasn't going to be live streamed. It wasn't going to be on Twitch. So it was working through making sure that it was broadcast and then building out sort of like a social engagement strategy, building out the core feel and vibe of it. And then 2017 was really building a lot of the technology that powers it around the voting system, the process, the panel system and all those elements to make sure that it all worked out. I'd say from there, it wasn't a case of trying to facilitate a job role. It was building my career to best manage the eSports awards. And it's the first time I've ever done it in a role. I've always had this career path and these hurdles that I want to jump through to be able to go up the ladder. But this was the first time I said right instead of me trying to look at what I'm going to develop and learn in order to further myself. It's what can I develop and improve on to further the company? What are the elements that I can get better at to grow the company to make it more sustainable to reduce risk and all these elements and I guess that's why I've got to where I am is because I just tried to make myself the best I could be for the company as cheesy as that sounds. It was I was in a marketing background, but suddenly I need to learn production. I need to learn direction. I need to learn how to produce a show from start to finish. But now it's also I need to learn how to best sell this because we've got a very valuable platform that can provide incredible ROI sponsors. So I just need to learn how to pitch it to them. And then I need to learn how to budget. I need to learn how to do cash flow. I need to be able to do risk analysis. So we stay in business year on year. And it was like every single fat that I took on and tried to optimize and that got me to the point where I think I am out now. And it's really been through, I think necessity, as we've grown, I've taken on a lot of the hats because as you grow as a business, there's more to do this more to encounter there's more to build on. It's just been each and every one of those things that sort of driven me to say, how can I solve a problem? And it was like, it literally last year couldn't be a better example for it because we got pretty hard on the sponsorship side. We knew we weren't going to get any hospitality in a room by about July last year. So a lot of the revenues that we'd usually be able to rely on, but this thing on didn't exist, which meant that we had we had to cost cut a little bit. On our side, but we also wanted to achieve everything we set out to achieve. We never want to shortchange the industry, right? Just because this stuff is going on, doesn't mean that we shouldn't be trying our best to create this incredibly experience, full of our finalists, and winners. So as I mentioned, we sort of created this Unreal Engine led CGI approach overall, which meant that we're all learning how to work in the software, all learning how to sort of build in CGI and create these cool stages and atmospherics that would create a more engaging show. To spare on the eSports awards. And I think one night we had most of our teams sat there in like after effects and prem pro, like building out and editing all of the different show clips doing audio clips and masks and trash masks bringing in CGI and stuff. And I was like, this is crazy that you've got all of these different people from all of these different roles. Not one of them is an editor, a CGI editor. And after effects editor, yet we're all pushed on. This mission. It was like three, four a.m. in the morning. And I was like, we're all focused on this one common cause. And I think that's the main thing was adaptability was building out what can push us forward effectively? No, I mean, you guys pulled it off beautifully. I think the 2020 edition of the awards is definitely one two to remember, I'm sure for you as well. And it's kind of a different change of pace in terms of life events and moving on to a more virtual production is kind of a different beast. So you spent about what you said 5 ish years now with the company. What has been, I guess your most memorable moment so far. I mean, it has it been taking the event Internet international has it been, you know, the first one or maybe the second one was something that happened. You were like, that's etched into my memory forever and I'll never forget this ever happening in this eSports award. I think it's a copper answer, but it was moving to Arlington. It was such an exciting time for the brand. And it came off a lot of uncertainty around our position in the market because 2018, we really understood that this was a global proposition. But we were very much in the UK, right? Resonated from London. Everything we did time zone wise was based on London and GMT and BSD and really sort of building this out from there and really trying to persuade all of these influences to fly 12 hours over to the UK, which a lot of them did, but we also understood we had three years in the same venue. It was a lot of travel. It was a lot of commitment during the season. And what was it going to sort of M and a and resonate in the way that we wanted it to long-term? And we also understood that America was our biggest audience. We had more fans there. We had more voters there. And I think it had always been this thing, but like this would be huge in the states. And via a mutual connection and can Meltzer. We got paired up with eSports stadium and our Texas is that this is a venue that would be befitting of an award show at the scale that we want to produce. And then we got flown out to Arlington, Texas, and it was just like this honestly like a fairytale of going out there, seeing the stadium going to the AT&T and really just saying, what I call the biggest theme park for adults that you could go to in Arlington, Texas and just being able to understand, we could do something really, really impressive with our show in this venue. And then we didn't sign the paperwork for our Internet until June or July of 2019. And then we had like four or 5 months to plan IDA conceptualize and deliver a full eSports awards program and weekend off the back of it. And it was just one of the most turbulent, but exciting times in my life. And I think as soon as you saw it all come together on the night and you had the theme song kick in, you realized it was all worth it. And that was coming off working like 20 hours a day. Every day for around two or three months, trying to sell enough sponsorship that we can afford to keep the lights on and play the bills around the stadium. There's a lot of lies there. It's very impressive. And also trying to create an event that would really, really pay homage to what we were trying to achieve long term. Beautifully done too. I've seen the videos in the photos, you guys had once the markups were all done and everything was like, man, I can't wait to go to this and then all of a sudden my I told you in the pre little interview meeting we had was just like, oh, the wife had some issues going and I couldn't go and I was like, dang it, I missed out and then the pandemic had just kind of ruined my perception of going in to witness a lot of these four award. But hopefully soon we can meet up again and kind of have that happen in live and in person. Forbidding the COVID variants that are running rampant recurring in Texas and the spikes come down. We can talk about that a little bit later. But I guess my penultimate question for you is based on your experience and based on what you've already done with these sports awards. For people on the outside looking in, would you say it's a lot of overlap between what a traditional sports and entertainment company does versus what an eSports and entertainment company does? I guess there's a lot to be drawn on. I guess one of the biggest things I say is we should never shy away from the comparisons to sport. We call sport is doing very, very well overall, and it's one of the biggest entertainment verticals on the planet. And eSports shares a lot of resemblance to it. But obviously, it's in its own very specific way. And the one thing that's really cool about sports is that it's had to make a lot of mistakes over the years. They're now eSports can avoid because sports has already laid those foundations. So I'm always saying, let's learn from sports. Let's learn what went really well. It sponsorship media fan engagement, strategies like that. But there's also understand what could we do better? Where can we innovate? And that's where things like OTT broadcasting have accelerated eSports and gaming to its own division effectively from a rev gen perspective and from an industry perspective with things like the Fortnite World Cup in 2019, really being that sort of pay attention moment for I think everyone globally in the world. Of how this thing matters is here to stay and it's going to do something really, really cool. All right. And I guess I'll call this in the penultimate question. This is gonna be pretty quick. Are you guys still kind of in a holding pattern for what the plan is for, I guess this year's edition of the awards? I know in person and virtual still kind of going back and forth for a lot of people. Have you guys decided on an official stance yet or are you still kind of just holding and waiting to see what happens? I think on our side, we're pretty committed to taking this forward. At the sports stadium and all in Texas, safeguarding is critical to what we do. It's an intimate award show. There's some very high profile people there. But we've all very confident that when we saw this coming last year, we started putting in factors and things that we could plan and create safety as a Paramount experience of the awards. We knew we couldn't quite get there for 2020. And that's why we had to protect everyone and stay at home and build out this remote broadcasting solution that meant we had a broadcast team in the UK in Berlin in Germany and also in Arlington, Texas. This year we've been able to put a lot of I think hopefully safeguarding future proofing and planning into what we do in this really sort of a scaling solution. That means that we can always be at the eSports stadium in Arlington, Texas, and then it just depends on how many people can be alongside us to enjoy the event. At the moment, I'd say things are still looking very, very positive. The next few weeks will obviously be very telling. For sure, for sure, we're still kind of in that little bit of a pill spike right now, but hopefully a lot of people just kind of experience the spike and then kind of dip back down a few weeks later. So hopefully, I mean, like I said, it's November 20th. So we're still a good what three ish months away from that that real date happening for the awards and so you still have a lot of time between here and then saying this exact same thing. I'll be honest, I don't want a deja vu. Do we hear last year or there's three? There's three months. We should be okay, right? We'll never take anything for granted, but hopefully if the situation has improved from last year. But I think we've also matured in our approach to dealing with it so that we can tackle it in the appropriate means and make sure that we give people the best event in the best possible circumstance. For sure. And so my very, very last question, I promise, this is right here. What does the future of the eSports words look like for you? Is it some kind of expansion? Is it going to be rotating venues at some point soon? Is it going to be like an eSports Hall of Fame that you guys kind of decide the ceremony in time and dates it'll take place? What's kind of the future you have in mind for the next decade of eSports awards I guess? We've got a decade. I'll say like three or 5 years. Yeah, it's a good question. I think there's a lot bubbling under the surface that we desperately want to be able to talk about. But we're probably still a couple of months of being able to launch. You'll probably end up being in the eSports world 2021. We can reveal a lot of what we've been working on in the background and a lot of what we do. But I think, yeah, built building on what we've done today is pretty huge for us now that we've got a bit more infrastructure to do so. So I guess we want to continue to be able to recognize and celebrate as many individuals and teams brands orgs in the industry as we can. I think we can do a little bit better at how we do it and really how we build out some of these elements. I'd love to do more stand-alone shows where you can really go into detail around it because we really focus on making sure every winner has that moment and they can give their speech, talk around why it matters to them and what it means to them. Overall. But we also have a lot of award categories given that we want to be able to recognize all the facets that bring eSports to the mainstream and to everyone at home watching. So being able to do these sports creative awards as a stand-alone thing would be pretty cool for us to be able to take on. And I mentioned we'd love to achieve. We definitely want to do more in the collegiate scene, not something that I feel we started last year. We got a lot of feedback on how we can actually improve and refine what we're doing. So we're working with some really cool people behind the scenes on that. And I guess just continuing to grow this out. I've always said one of the things that we can do that puts us in a really unique position is we can effectively become the festival of eSports, the culminates with the current closing of eSports award ceremony. So building more content around that building more days that we can facilitate, but don't necessarily need to own. It's pretty important. And some more things that I'll say watch this space here. I mean, I love it. I love it. I can't wait to suit you guys do. You have the imagination of running wild and with what the possibilities are and I can't wait to see you guys do. So these four swords, of course, November 20th, I believe if I'm still right on that, you guys go to eSports awards dot com, vote for your favorite nominees. In those categories, I mean, I can't tell you my scorecard, but I know it's actually filled to the brim on my favorites. So I'll post maybe closer to the 20th what my picks were. Otherwise, you can follow Mike himself at Mike Ashford underscore ESA, I believe, is that right? I think that's the one yeah. I'm not the most active on socials these days. It gets me in trouble. Oh, wow, oh no. It's probably between the wrong soccer football team out or something like that. It's all it is. But Mike, I want to thank you for coming on the show again, giving this your thoughts your perspective on things. It's been actually wonderful to have you on. Hopefully we can have you on again, maybe in the near future to talk about the next biggest venture for eSports awards and what you guys have planned there. But for now, we wish you good luck. And again, thank you for coming on. No problem. Thanks very much, Kevin. He's Mike Ashford, of course, CEO of eSports awards, and I'm just Kevin Cory, right here on the eSports network podcast. Brand new thing.

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Pucks with Bernie & Panger  Episode 15  Palm Springs, All-Star & All-Time Best Hockey Players

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Pucks with Bernie & Panger Episode 15 Palm Springs, All-Star & All-Time Best Hockey Players

"It's all star week in Saint Louis. What better time to talk some hockey? It's pucks with Bernie and panger right here on scoops scoops with Danny Mac dot com. Make sure you get subscribe so you can get it sent directly to whether it's I tunes Google. I don't know how that stuff works but it works get signed up that way is delivered evered directly to you. We are presented each week by Marie. Davila Senior Living Urban Chestnut Brewery Triad Bank. Fast Eddie's Bon Air Greenville University Cope Twenty four great organization helping out with parenting skills and help out kids and also be g tuck pointing I know my guy rich Galati Latta. He'll be at the All star game this weekend. B G Tuck pointing winning Stanley. Cup Isn't easy but the blues were able to do it for having a great foundation. It's pretty simple when things start falling apart or crumbling and not only looks bad. It doesn't work be G. Tuck pointing has the same philosophy. Yeah about your home or place of business. 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She started a great organization called Cope. Twenty four their goal goal is to improve. The health of Families Rene Tell us how cope twenty four strives to do this. Well we believe education is going to be the key so we are promoting the need to make parenting and child development education education a priority in all of our high schools reaching all of our students. You know it's funny you say high school and Curriculum I think a math I think of English cope twenty-four four believes that parenting needs to be one of those core classes taken. Why is that so important? Well we look at the issues that we have in our society child. Welfare's is is just overwhelmed with the number of kids that need healthy families. We look at crime imprisonment mental health domestic violence just goes on and on and and we know without a doubt that we can trace that back to dysfunctional families so if we want our families to be healthier we have to create healthier. 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University founded founded in eighteen ninety two this Liberal Arts Institution Offers Pre Med offers online student involvement. Yeah that's right. They'll get involved in local businesses businesses immersed in the community a great little town of Greeneville Illinois. Less than an hour from Saint Louis. If you're looking to get away for college but they don't want to go too far. It's right up the road from Saint Louis. Great professors really a great experience kids involved in athletics but again everybody is really immersed in what they're doing on the campus at all all times Greenville Dot. Edu for more information about this great institution and with that we bring in the blues analyst on Fox Sports Midwest Mr Hockey himself. I don't know that we've ever called them that Darren Pang joins us via the phone because he has taken the break and he's taken himself to palm springs which makes sense. Why do I I have this vision of Palm Springs never been I just see Frank Sinatra and a convertible picking up Don rickles for lunch? I don't know why have this old school view of Palm Springs. You know gene autry way I mean you look at the the the the streets the history of the rat pack you can see why the rat pack back and and all these famous people came here In whatever era it was whatever decade wasn't created this kind of cult. Look here. It's unbelievable for me. I like it. You Know Martin I I lived in or at least I had a house in Arizona for six years and so anytime we have a bit of a break we always went back there Zona And you know caught up with old friends and play some of the golf courses and did all that and then when you're we decided let's let's go to palm springs and You know it's only about three and a half hour drive from from Ah from Central Phoenix. So we came over here and there's about one hundred fifteen golf courses in this area So very easy to get to your no matter where you are. You're surrounded by the mountain It just fantastic. I mean you can cross one part of the mountain you can get into obviously like the Temecula California you can head in this like San Diego you can go into The Pelican area of Of Orange County I don't know I really do like get here and I know some people think that a lot of people retiring there. It's become a real young up and coming Reclamation project a lot of the mid century beautiful homes from the fifties. In fact. We're going to go through an architectural Tour just in a little bit and look at some of these great. They're not they're not all these huge places. They're just so cool all the way that they're done and there's little pools in the backyard and Place where we're at we've got fresh grapefruit trees and orange trees Rate on our property. And you can be sure that I've had a couple of those grapefruits and maybe a little bit of grey goose with that just to make sure got some tasted as well because it is it's fantastic and fresh and beautiful sunshine and Palm Springs Palm trees all over the place. Does your wife Play Golf. I know you're a big golfer. Does she ever get out there. Nope she does not play golf at all and we are here as a break and Kind of a family get together because my daughter Sammy and her husband Luke they They had a baby two months ago. A Little Baby Charlie and So we decided at the very beginning that we're going to get out here. It's a good break for all of us and come out here and enjoy and so So actually There I mean we're having the time of our life. Got The baby in the pool for the first time with some some floaty stigma juniors Louis babies have now and it's quite something else. My son is a golfer he's he lives in New Jersey and he actually was an assistant golf pro at Glen Echo in Saint Louis for for a few years before he got married and went off to New Jersey. So He's here as well and We are playing some golf together and Bang in the ball around but my wife has not play but she the She absolutely knows the GIG. All clubs come with us we set it up we just gotTa make sure we come back for dinner and this is the son. He's still talking. He didn't we announced he took eight years to get through Mizzou. I think we pretty good one time taught him how to play Euchre last night Good Card Game Canadian card game and And I see now why. Oh yeah very sharp kit. It happens all all star week in Saint Louis for the franchise. It's kind of crazy how it worked out you know winning the cop and then hosting the All Star game. This was established well before they won the cup. But it does seem like for the franchise. And I'm trying to think when you came in it. Was it right before stillman bought the team at. It's just interesting. How the franchise? which had so much bad luck and bad breaks? I mean we would always talk about. Oh when Kip rose ran into you. Know Fewer Z.. And we just had all these terrible things have even. I think Manny legace tripped over Sarah Palin aliens carpet and we had all these weird injuries. Eric Johnson fell off a golf cart. And now everything is like sunny and saint. Louis it's weird for the Blues Franchise or were you there when I know. Oh you were there when stillman was in charge but did you come in right before that transition. You know I came in in two thousand nine and the the tax akkas group Under John Davidson and In that group were in their Maybe their second or third year. 'cause I remember doing an NBC. He game in the afternoon. I believe two thousand eight and they gave away. I was between the benches and I remember thinking. This place is jammed packed. I heard they're we're having trouble Selling out and getting getting the fans back in the building again in the in the first or second year of the CHECKETTS group and They gave away member. They gave away the free hot dogs and free food or whatever it was by a kick you get free food and the place was jammed. It was I mean. Everybody was stuffed with hotdogs but he was a great great way to get a a a national audience. Seems of the St Louis Fans. Even though it it wasn't genuine and real but it was a great Great Way to get people into the building for that game so I did that game on NBC. And then. I flew back with the Saint Louis. Blues that that that Nice was a snowstorm so it was the next morning we flew so I hung out with this fella named Kelly Chase all day. I went into St Louis bandits hockey game. That patent ruin was playing and Bobby player and I slept over at Chasers House And then the next morning I caught the flight with the St Louis Blues. 'cause John Davidson said it would be okay. And then we went to Phoenix So make a long story short. That was my first introduction of where they were at that particular point in two thousand and eight and then I joined the team in two thousand nine so because of John Davidson and he was instrumental momentum. And getting me to Saint Louis and And I'll forever be grateful and same with Doug Armstrong because he was about to take over the team as well so these two guys were instrumental and saying. Hey this is going to be great for you and And what have you so but anyway to get to go through that a little bit. Yeah there there were some curious times because even before the stillman group took over over there was a group from Chicago that looked like they might be getting the team and so I I just remember how uncertain everything was and it was. It was actually a very uncomfortable. Time to be quite honest with you because of my friendship with J. D. and not knowing what he was doing and then as it turns out He ends up not staying and going off to Columbus and And then this domain group took over and it still took maybe a couple of years Before you know Chris Berman got his you know got got kind of settled into his role. Steve Chapman came on board which through the great addition to the club. I mean just a good soul that was you know a a minor league hockey executive We knew the ropes of the from from every angle. Anyway so you know now. We're seeing where we are right now. Martin this is a well. Oiled Machine Good Fortune happened. armies brought in unbelievable unbelievable foundation players at a great age. Not Old players. Not too young. I mean a team that set up to win for an extended period of time and and having stillman group obviously is instrumental to have them and everybody else that local I think everybody should be pretty proud of it. Martin you know that I mean I remember remember you doing a roast one of my first years and You quite funny actually. Maybe making fun of the check at a little bit humor. They might take. Thank you and I might have taken a shot at. You know Mike McCarthy and Dave checking because I could because I didn't work for the team so I could i. It's growth ever the one that was really funny. But that one there was one of the all-time bet I have to tell you a certain current. GM have talked to be on the way out and said. I'm glad you said This this and this because none of us can say this that. That's the degraded vindication. And this is not about me. Of course is about paying but the greatest feeling during the night of your roast which by the way we could really. I think the more random we get each week. We're GONNA have a lot more fun. I'm just gonNA instead of me acting like a hockey expert. Who am I kidding? your roast. I sit down and by the time I'm in my seat. I have three tax in one is from Big Wall Keith. Kachuck you know. Probably said Holy Bleep. Whatever and Dan Deardoff who was there and so that was unreal and mark lamping son and I thought well this is vindication because and they threw me I I? I'm not a comedian. And they like. Hey we got experts here but we have a Cam Janssen one in the works. Bruce Affleck has told me that it it. It's moving slowly as what I'm being being told. But Buddy we are all over that all my goodness Cam Johnson would. He's a perfect guy to roast because first of all. I'm not sure if anybody that would the person has gone to a roast. The roast is really not just about one person. I mean even you mentioned Don rickles and and all the guys here the rat pack and how much fun those guys had in in in all of those roasts that you can still go on Youtube and see those classic roast but they rose everybody like you stepped up there and open the door and everybody got the hammered pave the way for everybody. That's after you so it's not just about one guy. I've got guys from our country club that we had two tables of guys for Metabolic Martin Right and they're still and I'm getting together with the later this afternoon to play a little golf. They're still talking about that roast. And how funny that. I look forward to the next and I actually didn't go after you as much as I said we all love paying. I'M GONNA rip everybody else. I May I made and then I made a I made a drinking joke about Brett hull and then chases like hey you asshole he's on the wagon. I'm like okay fine okay. And then he went blue then he went blues. Hey this is pox with Bernie and panger on scoops with Danny Mac dot dot com or hockey visits are brought to you by Triad Bank Neighborhood Friendly Bank folks who are happy to see a walk in and it's like when you go to a bank and they sort of rude when you walk in there it's your money would think they could be a little bit. 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Whatever taste you have? They've got a beer for you. Urban Chestnut not just the locations in town but also in your neighborhood grocery store you can pick it up. Make Urban Chestnut part of your blues viewing fun grab have a beer there. We've mentioned before you can get urban chestnut the zoo. They're all over Saint Louis but make sure you grab them have met home as you're sitting back and watching some blues hockey you know the All Star game. It's a big deal for the fans. It's a big deal for most of the players. But you hear guys opting out like Ovechkin. I understand that you've got to try and win a cup. Do you think for most players though. It's a big deal when they get the invite and they get the chance to go whether it's their first or their tenth. I hope the heck it is. I hope I hope it is I still believe that. Had you know being an all star at the end of the year there's two all star teams as you. Well know that's what it's all about to the greatest players in the game but the all star weekend. It's still a a real special time to get together and maybe see some of the guys that you don't know And get your in the locker room you you might think that guy. What bonehead own had that guy is i? I'm not sure if I like them. And then you leave the All Star game and you're like that guy's hilarious and you find out different personalities you get to know players And and I think it should be an honor and by the way you know the fans do pay your salaries for the most part for the majority of the part. That's that's what it's all about and if it's a small price to give back a little a bit then give back for a player like Alex Ovechkin Marne listen. He's got a lot of reasons not to come. He's giving it his all. He's gone to a dozen dozen all star Games There are some curious choices. And one would be Dylan Larkin of the Detroit redwings. It's curious to me unless he's got somebody family. Wise is it. That might be ill and I haven't heard that so I'm not you know I'm not throwing him under the bus. Because I I I do know Dylan quite well but I'm wondering this would be an unbelievable unbelievable opportunity in a year that you're in last place to denote there and have some fun and show your skills and so your personality represents the Detroit Red Wings and and And so of of course so that is another. You know curious one for me and then you've got David Perron. I mean David Perron is guy. That's exactly what you wanted. An All star game. Because if he didn't make the team you know where he was going back to Sherbrooke Quebec and probably playing outdoor hockey with his buddies like he loves to play hockey and put on his age. So those are the guys that you WanNa on a play these games because it's not the most competitive so if you can bring in the most competitive guys then you're gonNA raise the raise the level even just a little bit. Yeah I I know for me personally Martin. I was never on in an all star game. I was on one ballot and it was in. You're not gonNA believe this in eighty seven eighty eight it was the only good year ahead in the NHL. And I made the all rookie team that year and I was a finalist for the calder trophy for rookie of the year. So I go the next year and little yeah. I know that Mike Keenan was going to be my coach. And you know kind of blow apart my desire but anyway I was on the ballot for the for the All Star game and it would have been in Saint Louis of of all places and I never made the team but anyway that was that was my only real opportunity to be on the All Star game and I would have. I would have ran through hoops Louis to be an all star game to all those great players and it is fun to see people that make millions genuinely be enthusiastic about something. I sat down with chief last week. Craig a group and I said you know. He played seventeen years. You coach for a while. This is his first and he just kind of laughed. It never invited so I think you can also feel good for a a guy like that. It's it's more than just a victory lap for having won the Cup last year's teams good again this year but I bet he doesn't show you much but I bet that feels pretty cool for him. I am a guy who was a wasn't a goon but he was a tough guy. We know that but he was never gonNa make an all star team and he knows that it's got to feel pretty cool to be behind that bench absolutely and for all that the guys that were you know guys like Craig Ruby honest hard-working great team players do whatever it takes to change momentum of a game or protect your teammates. I mean he made an honest living in our game and I am excited for Craig booby to be there. I'm excited for any one of those guys. There was a tougher players that didn't get the opportunity to play one of the toughest ever. Something got a chance to play in the All Star Star game in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight and scored a goal. That was Bob Probert. He had twenty nine goals. That year he played on the wing with Heisman And Gerard Gallant. And you get to the All Star game. And he scores the goal Maybe an assist by Greg even and Bang you know that that. Like for guys like chief guys like you know we know twister and chase her and all these guys that played the game that way and we're tougher nails and the loved by their teammates I wish more of them had a chance to play in these kind of games because Because I think there would have been a lot more character to the game as well but anyway getting back to cheap I am so pumped up for him. I think it's going to be just fantastic. And he already. Did you see that. He went to Philadelphia for a couple of days. I think he's returning today or Thursday. I think Thursday but see what he's doing he's coming back. He accepted an award on behalf of the Philadelphia writers or the chapter. I saw that and they gave Saint Louis the team of the year the PHILLY writers. Yes yes you believe. That and I think it was beyond hockey. I think it was just their favorite sports stories. You know best sports team. The crusty Old Philly folks gave it to the blue. That was very very cool for chief. Why are you still lives in Philly? Very Cool No. I love that so chief will be there four blues on the is Jordan. Bennington told us she she said you know. Listen there's a little money on the table I think a million bucks divvied up by the winning team adds a little bit to it. We've talked about the format that crazy about the divisions they he played but how about the three on three as a former goalie. Bennington said well never easy being a goalie. Do you like that part of it Top one boy boy. Tough one You know the one thing I would I would say is Get warmed up like really get warmed up because everybody else takes casually I I I think I as part of the the The old ESPN group that had the rights to the NHL. I was going through. I think I did eight eight or eight. All All Star Games in that time. Eight or nine got a couple of lockouts and I just remember the forward. Everybody's kind of into locker pay for the sticks. They're all relaxed. And everything they go on the nice they dipsy doodle a little bit and these poor goaltenders. They've got to get in a corner. They gotta get ready because next thing you know. That wasn't three on three back. Then but now I I mean you're talking about two on one and breakaways and three on those so you gotta get a lather up early there. So do I like it. Well it does give Golden Opportunity To steal the show I mean if if he's just a little bit more alert a little bit more intense than the rest of the guys then then it can happen because I do believe that the forwards and the defenseman when they get going when they're a little casual Whether they don't want to steal the show or they don't want to you know make it look too easy. I don't know what it is but I think goaltender and a goaltender like Bennington can walk into this one here and he can steal the show Islam as he goes in there with a little intensity. This is scoops with Dana. AMAC DOT COM. You're listening to pucks with Bernie and panger our our visit presented by Fast Eddie's bond air you've heard all about it up there in Alton Illinois if you haven't been what are you waiting for and if you haven't been in a while you you need to get back because it's a mood changer. Here are visits with Eddie. He's always in a good mood. 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Needs for years being a not just a longtime resident there but one of the people who helped get started and was part of the ownership group right now fred and Mary Kay Weeds and just I festival fund. People you see the fountain when you drive by Clayton Road right at the intersection to your Queenie Park it's Clayton and Wiedeman. During the Cardinal Playoff runs you see the red fountains during the blues. Run See the Blue Fountain going outside. Always a huge Christmas tree that just fun festive people and a really great place for your senior years set set up that appointment at Marie. Davila DOT COM. Let's go through your all time list. Okay it's an all star game. I did prep a little bit. So you would put down the grey goose and grapefruit just long enough to think can can you name and you've been around this game forever. Okay so can you name. Is there a best right. Wing of all time is Yager is it Gordie. Bossie is it rocket resort. Can you pick one. Yeah I would I would absolutely go to Gordie Howe. I mean I think for everything that he the way he played the goals that he's scored the The longevity The the whole package. I mean so I've got. I've got my greatest right. Winger of all time is certainly Gordie Howe. How about left wing is Bobby Hull will he has? Bobby Hall is the greatest left wing of all time and I. I was lucky enough to get a whole bunch of video when I was when I was playing there in Chicago. And we had a number of guys that had VHS tapes in the alumni that were there cliff coral and sand Makita and the guys. And I watched hours hours above of that. Era and Bobby Hall couldn't be stopped. I mean bobby played his entire career in the national hockey. He'd be the he'd be the highest goalscorer of all time and he might be number one of all time when we're talking about the greatest player that's just the fact that you couldn't stop the Guy. He was an absolute salute bowl. He was a great skater. He'd wind up behind his net. Besides the slapshot everybody talks about the slapshot but he was. He was just an unbelievable hockey player. So I think he's the greatest left-winger Guignol time greatest center. This is easy because he's sitting there with you right now. Probably listened. Robertson told me never to name John Wayne Gretzky certainly is the greatest Centerman of all time. I mean Not even up for debate. He's got more assists than anybody else has point and I believe in my opinion opinion and I I think Wayne Gretzky was even more selfish. If he was selfish on the ice he would he would have hundreds of more points. That's it's just my opinion. I think there were many games. Where like he you know? They're they're winning so so big that That that that was all she wrote I think he I think he could've put more points to be quite quite honest with you. And I'll tell you another thing just a small Thing about Gretzky and the all time goals. He's got eight hundred ninety four. We know that Alex Ovechkin. That's GonNa close so I did talk to Wayne about it. You think I said just think Alex Ovechkin will pass you. He said yes I do and I said Oh no oh no you know. It's one of those things you know you want. I don't know maybe I'm just that way. I want you to have the ultimate goals. I want out of the all time games played or whatever it might be and and and he said nope that'd be good for the game of hockey and you know that's typical of Wayne because Gordy Howe followed him around for probably a good month before Gretzky passed him in goals. Goals and points in the whole thing and I think Wayne looks back at it now and knows. Just how great Gordie Howe was for Wayne Gretzky and Wayne Gretzky would do the same. If Alex Ovechkin passes come and go. That's very very cool. Good for he's better man than both of course we'd be petty about it who rooting against. And it's it's tough to be Mario Lemieux when you're is unbelievable as he was but you're still you can't tap the great one how about on the The Blue Line. Who are your defense? I'll let you go to top defenseman of all time about bobby or Bob. You're for for sure. No question no debate. And I'M GONNA I'm GONNA lean towards. I was going to go nick but I I'm going to go back to the heyday and go back to Doug Harvey and listening to Great he was how he could rush the peculiar. Bobby Orr before Bob. You're he could just do it all Norris Trophies All star Stanley Cups. I mean I think or or and Harvey they win that one and my goal tender is going to be. It's a tough one for me because I've got a slash predicament here. Because the air is too difficult to go not so much Terry Sawchuk always had that four hundred forty seven wins and he was the leader in the shuttle lead and all that. But then you gotta have Mardi Baudour there. I mean no one. No one's with no one. No one's put together that longevity The six hundred ninety one win two hundred twenty five shutouts a Stanley Cups as the final. You know you could have had two more Stanley Cups. So I'm GONNA go slash talk slash broder and your coach on the bench. Is it obvious. Is it Scottie. Yeah of that of all time. Yes it's it's it's definitely going to be Scotty Bowman it Yeah it's definitely Scotty. Bowman eating put a coach there. Yeah you're right look at me. I always think of the players. I you're on vacation buddy. Enjoy your time in palm springs and before you know what the blues back at it and we'll be planning that parade down market. Have a great trip. Can't wait it's going to be a great weekend perverted Saint Louis Be careful there. Ok Young Fellow you know always fun to catch up with Darren Pang. And don't don't forget you can find us here each week. pucks with Bernie and Panger next week. 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Blues break through in 2OT

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Blues break through in 2OT

"He's the game misconduct podcast with Don league-record and walk into the Wednesday. They should have gained misconduct. Dom down the Greco what a game seven last night from Saint Louis blues beat the stars would want. This one went kind of the way, I thought it would I was asked by some people on Twitter and during the course of the day who, you know, who do you like in game seven I said, I think the blues of the better team. But I think Bishop is the better goal tender, and he could steal it. And he came darned closure feel bad Ben Bishop now he's had his moments went to a Stanley Cup two thousand fifteen shutting out the Rangers and game seven of these conference final. If you remember being game five Madison Square Garden, so he's had his moments for sure seems to rise to the occasion and he faced fifty four shots in this double overtime game to the stars thirty. It was just unreal how well the blues played in this game. And it would have been a walkover. Blowout may have. It was a fight. They would have stopped it. But the blues just could not get anything going against Ben Bishop zuccarello goal tied the game in one after done scored against Bishop thirteen thirty in and that would be it. Until Pat maroon of the Saint Louis blues resident scores five fifty into the second overtime to win it for the blues. But just spectacular of the amount of saves. The quality saves that he was forced to make the blues. Ten shots on goal in the first period. Eighteen in the second period. So Bishop was eighteen for eighteen the second period thirteen in the third period. Eleven in the first overtime and that he would give up the game winning goal on the second shot overtime number two. But here's what's disturbing. Okay. The blues. Dow's ended about shooting the blues thirteen ten in the first period game scoreless games tied at one in the second period. The stars were outshot eighteen to one in the third period the stars out shop. Thirteen to three. So Ben Bishop a standing on his head. He was the singular reason that the Dallas Stars almost went to the conference finals. I think they have to be pretty happy with themselves as far as the kind of season that they had I don't know how many real expectations there in this was a year in which Ben and Sagan were called out by ownership. There wasn't a general feeling that this was a Stanley Cup championship team. And they start a play greatness second of the season. The acquisition of zuccarello was supposed to solidify things it ended up doing that. But it didn't get going until the postseason. I thought zook was tremendous in the second round series against the blues. And I guess the only team that's disappointed along with the Dallas Stars in the National Hockey League are the New York Rangers because they could have gotten a third row. First round pick that second round conditional pick would become a first round pick of the stars one last night and made it to the conference final. They came up short. So we'll see would soup dozen free agency. And how the stars handle things during the course of the off season. I thought they were exceptionally well coached by Montgomery. I thought he had a defensive style. I thought the star survived being a little bit top heavy, but in Raja aloft came and I thought he played great in the regular season showed some skill in the postseason as while. I think the stars have to be very very happy with their performance what they're able to accomplish. So far this season. I know it's a disappointment. But you beat the the Nashville predators who had won the division on. And you go toe to toe with the Saint Louis blues her work with the hottest team in the regular season. In the second half of the year. They were the worst team in the NHL on January second really tremendous story, and Greg Baru be we'll get some consideration for the Jack Adams trophy people have to realize that the votes were in before the playoffs started. So the fact that he was able to win a couple of rounds. Here doesn't matter for him. But the blues finally looks like they got their goal tender in Bennington inexperienced. But so what the blues are. So offense talented. That they don't spend a lot of time in the defensive zone. So that really helps Bennington for sure, but what a credit to the Saint Louis blues. They are going to the conference final. And they do it by being the worst team in the National Hockey League on January second if you thought on January second this team would be in the conference final. It would be a little bit surprising. So they sit and they wait for tonight's sharks and avalanche game seven. So we've seen three game sevens. Go to overtime of the five which is the first time ever. We've seen the home team be fairly consistent. Carolina did win on the road in Washington and their game. Seven in the first round of the playoffs with the home team has been able to keep serving we'll see what the San Jose Sharks tonight sharks win. They go to the conference final take on the blues. This'll be a rematch of the twenty sixteen Western Conference final which the sharks won and went to the Stanley Cup. Final for the first time in franchise history avalanche trying to get back there in the first time in forever. They were consistently there in the early in the the early on the late nineties in the early two thousands. And now this is another generation of avalanche. But you know, what they're still led by Joe Sacic who is a major part of those championship teams in ninety six in two thousand one. So we'll see the home team. I think has a distinct advantage, but the avalanche of shown that they can handle this their skill players land has been hot ranson. And of course, you know, about McKinnon comper had a great game six to force the game seven scoring couple goals. Wouldn't be surprised at the sucker went overtime as well. That's gonna be a nine o'clock start. So make sure you taken during some coffee because that might be a late one would not be surprised if you're going to be deep into Thursday by the time his game comes to an end. But just a terrific job. These plows have been just terrific so negative the Saint Louis blues in the conference finals. So the stars wildcard team out already the comas blue jackets wildcard team out of the avalanche could exit as a wildcard team. So with all the upsets, we still may see some real quality teams that were expected to go far the blues, I think going into the plows were expected to. Maybe make a bit of a Ron, and they have all the sharks people have been on their bandwagon since the acquisition of Eric Carlson during the off season. So they have a chance to do that. But you still could get that avalanche hurricanes five which would be a big surprise to. So you sprinkled in some upsets, and I think that's always fun. But you also have some established teams that were also looked upon the favorites. And of course, the Boston Bruins, maybe defame. So you can have a blues sh blues Stanley Cup final appearance with the first time since nineteen seventy-two the sharks could try to win their first down the Cup ever. Bruins going trying to go to the Stanley Cup. Final for the first time since twenty thirteen trying to win it for the first time since twenty seven Carolina trying to win it for the first time since two thousand and six also one note McEvoy McEvoy has been suspended for game one tomorrow against the Carolina Hurricanes. That's when the Eastern Conference final is going to start that will start tomorrow from Boston. So no, Charlie McEvoy in this one. And let's face it. Mcevoy dodged a bullet by not getting thrown out of the game for his and game. Six only got a two minute minor. And I think when you look at his face he realized he got away with it. But he's not going to get away with by playing game one. And it's a big loss because he loves a lot of ice time. He's a very skilled offense a player. So that's going to hurt the Bruins a little bit as they lose him pre game one against Carolina. And then we'll find out the schedule the rest of the way for the Western Conference final once that's all getting completed tonight. But should be a lot of fun. Let's hear from you at down the Greco hashtag game conduct. Jack says, hey, Don hobos. Well, could you give some insight into how Jacob Slaven has been seen around the league as a canes fan from ashville? We get to see his defensive brilliance consistently. But how does the league's he slave? And they look at Slaven is at outstanding defenseman if you've been into the National Hockey League. And I've called a lot of hurricanes games with the Rangers. He stands out to me. He was always looked upon as I think pound for pound their best. Defensemen. And then of course, he gets the help because incomes Hamilton to be able to help on that blue line. But a slave in his respected around the league. I think his story has great. He is somebody who's a Christian who's found? God is a major source for him during the course of this Ronnie's a great kid great player. So I can't tell you how respected he is by everybody around the National Hockey League. But I know preparing for hurricanes game slave in his somebody that I really find is is is somebody that can be a force when I'm calling games and watching games. I just see him constantly with pock constantly having an impact. So I think he's very very well respected Casey Brown's gonna sharks when a series without a game seven. It's a great question. And it also begs the question of how is this going to affect the sharks? Even if they win the game tonight. Now, they're gonna go up against a blues team that was forced to go to game seven as well. But this is an older team as we've talked about before games begin to pile up. And you know, maybe they go. To the conference final go to seven and they might end up having to play twenty eight games the maximum if they're gonna win the Stanley Cup. But it looks like they won't get any kind of break. Guess we would probably start Friday or Saturday for the Western Conference file had gotten word yet. But I would think maybe Friday. So it'll kind of depend on how things go from there going against Saint Louis, but hey, listen, they've got older players. But the fact is that they could get ski back which I think is going to be important for them. And you hate to think of it this way because he was so injured and hasn't been able to play, but he's been able to condition himself. He's been able to work on the bike from cardio standpoint. So he's been able to rest up and he'll up his injury. And now, maybe he will have some legs that a lot of players on the San Jose Sharks won't have. So maybe that actually work to the advantage because Belski is pound for pound their best player. I think on the team at least from the forward standpoint. So maybe the little bit arrestees had not closing out the series against Colorado early. Hell. The sharks. But guess what the charts have to win tonight too. But they always seem to end up having to go this since it's crazy Christmas. Don, you could not have asked for better ending to a game seven maroon the hometown kid gets the game winner in front of his family specially son who idolized his dad believe he took a pay cut. So that he could play closer to home moments. Like, these, you know, Patrick Marrone is a very interesting story. I mean, he was a guy, you know, there was inadequate in just didn't seem to be fit there. Devils ended up trading forum didn't work out there long-term as you said he decided to go back to his hometown. And what an impact he's had in the postseason. And that's we've talked about the so many times we could talk about the stars Tarasenko. Who was not very good by the way in that series against Dallas only one even strength point for Tarasenko Jaden Schwartz who was outstanding in these playoffs little better against Winnipeg that was against Dallas. But sometimes it's the Maroons to get it done, right? Sometimes it's the Corrales in Boston. Sometimes the unknown guys. You don't really think of that end up having a huge impact you have to be well rounded if you're going to make a run in the playoffs. You have to be able to roll four lines. You have to have players that you can trust to be on the ice aqui situations, especially with all these games going overtime, fresh legs going to be so important and of a coach can look at his bench and trust literally everybody that's on that bench. That teams got an excellent chance to make a run. Chris. I'd on last night. I saw the unprofessional Marshon interview referred to yesterday. Although his behavior is inexcusable. Do you think his on and off ice antics? Give him the villain label resulting in some people watching and wanting to see the Bruins lose is good for the league shore. You need to have villains. You have heroes. You have billons. Okay. And the league is always had the SAT cannons and the Claudel amuse the Sean Avery is the guys that instigate to get under your skin. But also he does have a tendency to take. Things too far and what expense attention? I mean. Do I need the NHL to get mentioned on sportscenter because there's a guy getting Lichtman face or a stick being broken getting stomped on or a an interview in which he literally says just ten words. I mean, come on. I think he plays his game. I think he plays his game. Well, but that doesn't mean that he's above criticism. And that you can't be a little bit annoyed with the way he seems to conduct himself Matt's Sadok congrats to the blues all these late night overtime games, destroying my sleep, schedule love playoff hockey, Matt. You're absolutely right. I mean, I'm dozing off driving to work every day between having the twins and staying up late watching these games. It's been killing me. But it's been worth it. Because it's been so much fun. Get ready the late one tonight's nine o'clock start. So even if the game ends and regulation, you're probably looking at a game going close to twelve and I have a feeling we're going to be going deep into that. Because I wouldn't be surprised if I have a very very. Nine games going to overtime. Christopher says. Hey, Don, what's the phrase that you use have a kit? Coming mean, I've never heard that before it's kick coming. And it just means that you don't have you really can't complain is. What would it means? Meaning like, I always brought it up with the Vegas Golden Knights. And the fact that yes, they may be did get job on the five minute. Major allowing the sharks score those four goals and take the lead. But you don't have a kick coming. Meaning will you had a three one series lead? And you tied the game. After you blew the three nothing lead. And you went to overtime where you could have wanted. Meaning you really can't complain you had your opportunities. Now where does that phrase come from? I have no idea. But that's always how I've used. And I think that's the way that it it should work wing. Jones says what do you know of Pablo that soups return to Detroit and the also says I'm so proud of the blues achievement. Who would they have a better chance? Against I lean towards Colorado. I don't know. That's a good question. I mean this Colorado teams very early similar to the hurricanes. You know, looking at it from the Allender glasses. If you remember I thought they'd have a better chance. It's Carolina the Washington now, obviously, I was wrong. I think it would have been much better chance against Washington than getting swept by Carolina, be careful. You wish for this arcane teams on a bit of emission. I do look at Martin Jones is being a little up and down in goal. Sometimes he's absolutely terrific. And then we saw him lose three straight games against Vegas. Be careful you wish for but back to your Pablo dot souk. We're hearing word that he may return to the National Hockey League thing that'd be great have not heard exactly when or if that's going to happen. But there has been speculation that he will leave his cage L team and come back to the National Hockey League. Steve says, hey, Don priority to Columbus can prior to Columbus. Can you think of any other team going for it so aggressively the deadline, and can you remember any tea? Team that is definitely working for where they couldn't have one without those moves while you look back. It's hard to say the ninety four Rangers were in this category because they're on their way to winning the presidents trophy anyway. But look at the moves that they made at the deadline to win the cop, and how those guys really helped, you know, the Noonan's, and and the Matosas they made a bunch of deals at the deadline and all those guys end up contributing. So I would think of it there, although they might have been able to win without those moves. But the guys that they did bring over the trading deadline in ninety four all seem to contribute. So that would be an area doesn't happen that often because usually don't get a situation like you get with Columbus where so many guys are free agents. And I think you had a perfect storm of major free agents on a team that had never accomplished anything. I still believe that it had been Boston or Chicago that had those free agents. I don't I think they would have traded him because they would have. Wanted to get something back. And even if it came at making a run, they had one cups before there were established hockey teams. So that might have been the better move, hockey wise, but you had the combination with Columbus where they had never been out of the first round of franchise history. They're trying to build a fan base. So there were willing to take that risk. So it's so rare to be able to have guys that you can get something for but side, the hold onto him at risk of losing them because you could see the value in Iran and Columbus, the value in Iran, and they came darn close to getting that that championship run just came up short in the second round. Jennifer sus. Jennifer says I have come to the assumption that Panara and ends up with the Rangers does the potential of Davidson going there as well. Make that more or less likely. I don't think it affects it I don't we were hearing rumors about Panara in going to the Rangers going back to the Blackhawks seems like he wants to go either to an. Establish National Hockey League team original sixteen there's also room as you want to go down to Florida. He's comfortable there. So Jennifer, I'm not sure that John Davidson is going to be a factor. I think he wanted to be arranger. Anyway, I don't think he projected out the John Davidson was going leave to become a ranger. So I don't think it's a factor. But Panara n- seems to narrow down his choices. We're hearing, you know, Maple Leafs. Blackhawks Rangers Panthers. It's a very slim number of teams. But the Rangers are certainly one of those teams that I'm not really sure John Davidson has anything to do with. All right. We've got a game seven tonight. We'll have a game one to preview as well in the Eastern Conference final tomorrow. You wanna get in touch with me these way to do that as at down the Greg hashtag game is conduct. Love the participation. We're having so much fun. These games have been terrific. Thanks for joining us back with again tomorrow. This was the Wednesday edition of game has conduct listening to gain misconduct podcast looking for more Don McGregor. Hear him on the Michael Kay show. Weekdays from three seven pm on ninety eight point. ESPN a New York worldwide on the ESPN app. I do forget to subscribe to the game misconduct podcast on the ESPN app. Google play music. 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