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"john carpenter" Discussed on Casuals: An Outsider Look at the Videogame Industry
"It's going to have a second blow up. I can see that happen. Yeah especially with the way you're describing some spoken amazing are there. Are there any horror characters or villains or monsters. That aren't in the game. That you wanna in the game you know what would you. What would you do with that character. I've always been curious as to how they're pull off a chucky thing because you have to run away and see the killer right okay. I think more places to hide. Yes i somebody who's not played the game. Yeah yeah i mean well. Yeah that's the thing. That killer isn't really supposed to hide from you. I'd be really interested to see how they pull off chucky. That's another like main horror movie character. i don't think they have. And they're high blake harder to seeks. He's telling job. Yeah look down more. Yeah maybe a smaller tail well. That's the thing that would be unfair though right because you're supposed to like be able to see them coming to hide in time right. That's yes that's why i'm wondering about. I feel like behavior in their hands like they could. They could do good with it so how. 'bout i'm just like my mind's racing right now how about the thing john carpenter's the thing that would be very interesting if they could transform into survivor right..
"john carpenter" Discussed on Show Me the Meaning!
"At dot. Co so just wanted to mention that at the outset so you can feel confident and prepared especially as you're going into this conversation to think about all the things that you disagree with or that you agree with so that you can contribute in your voicemails or e mails as we talk about john. Carpenter's the fog. That starts the scream. Queen jamie lee curtis adrian boult tom atkins janet lee and how hobart among others. It's an ensemble cast. Let's just go around and talk about first impressions and then what was it like revisiting it. Let's start with raymond. I've seen the fog quite a few times. This is probably a top three. John carpenter films for me. I really really love this picture and More than anything. I love ghost stories. That was my first love as a kid growing up. That's what made me wanna be a storyteller and It's one of the things. I love about this movie that it's just a straightforward. Really simple ghost story doesn't do anything to fussy gets in and out in like ninety minutes flat. Eleven of which austin joked about on twitter being just opening credits. It's actually twelve. It continued for another minute and a half after eight weeks after after you bug me the first time. I think it's just a really solid ghost movie. Good nuts and bolts filmmaking very atmospheric and a lot of fun A lot of fun to revisit this time around. So i'm excited talk about it. All right ryan so. I'm glad to be here on john. Carpenter month John carpenter top. Three filmmakers from me. I'm sure we've talked that kind of in the past but like in terms of not not only just watching the movies but as a film make an influence. I would say like i love how he directs movies. How he plays with genres and specifically love how what he does with his scores in know how he makes his own since since base scores so I love the shit out of john. Carter i want to preface. That and it was interesting. Hearing what you just said raymond this is your top three for him and stopped because everything you just said. Basically i believe as the polar but i'm the polar opposite of because this is one of my least favorite carpenter move interesting like It's like it's perfectly fine fun little ghost story but i don't go to john carpenter movie just for fun regular old tired with the movies you know. He's a special filmmaker to me so to me. This is most normal kind of no frills just kind of playing playing a paint by numbers genre ghosts movie. That's perfectly watchable. But like i don't i don't leave going. Wow which is almost every other. John carpenter movie has while moments for me and this is kind of his thrills and also very importantly you say you love stories. I don't really love ghost stories. Like the one i love movies are fighting words. It's more just like a few in my ghost. Movie is literally the movie ghost right because to me. That's that's pretty good. Yeah it's really fun and it's more than just it's more than just a ghost movie. It's like out a lot more going for it and stuff. But like i know to me. They're not that scary. I don't really get the logic of how they work all the time. It's from movie to movie. It just seems like they can do a lot of stuff in just spook you..
The Failed Shangri-La Plaza
"The star studded high production surrealistic musical sitcom shangri la plaza was originally produced as a pilot for b. nineteen ninety ninety one season but for one night only the network decided to air it as a summer fill in on july thirtieth nineteen ninety and that half hour made history. Well kind of in a really weird bad way. So we're gonna talk about the sitcom shangri la plaza. All of the weirdness that occurs around it to talk about cop rock. That was abc. Same year that this came out. It has a very cop rock field. But what is what are your reactions to this the intro. I could not tell you what it was about. If you pay me any amount of money it so abstract i guess and never mind the cheesiness. that's i expect that it's one thousand nine hundred ninety experimental. Things are a little bit weird. I was just saying that. Like i guess seinfeld came and say yeah television at that point but i could not tell. It seemed like a place. Where maybe there's food and abc live. I don't know what is highly. It's hard to tell it's it all began really with nineties. L. a. mall culture shangrila was inspired by that and it was filmed on location in north hollywood strip mall at the corner of vineland and burbank boulevard. In north hollywood california just went for it. This set a strip mall was built on top of an original strip mall which is where the problems really begin. This mall on mall design was the topic of a washington post story in nineteen ninety emmy award winning art director. Jeremy ray elton best known for his work on playhouse was responsible for the set sign. And that's not the only high-calibre name attached this very confused project. Broadway legend terrence man. Who played leads in. Layman's and cat stars as ira bondo machine mechanic who works with his brother. George jeff jaeger lanes musician love interest. John remain in seinfeld. Speaking of seinfeld at the mall's bodyshop. When amy molloy hardin yes jan on the office takes over her shitty husbands donut shop. I think after he dies. Both brothers are instantly. Smitten future smallville. Star nexium sex cult leader. Alice mac a very young l. Plays amy's precocious eight year old daughter in her only on screen acting role jazz. Great carmen lundy plays the donut shops. Only employees savion glover plays a wrapping teen commenting on. What's happening kind of greek chorus style. An oscar nominee. Chris sarandon plays the plazas landlord. It's for something where it's just a pilot of a throwaway like experimental pilot like pretty heavy hitting actors. The show itself was helmed by horror sci fi writer director nick castle. You may know him as the co writer of john. Carpenter's state from new york. And he played michael myers in the original halloween. The composers were craig sapphire or sedan known from his work. On cheers and mark mueller. Who wrote the theme song to duck tales and jennifer pages. Nine hundred ninety eight hit crush it just like there's a lot of talent involved in this project and it just gets lost along the way while working together on projects like the last starfighter tapped the trio discovered. They had a common passion. The three of us loved old musicals. Knicks dad was a choreographer who had done royal wedding and many other movies sephardim says and the opportunity to make a musical finally happened. When cassel's pal jeff sagansky became the head of cbs. He was looking for something new. Some fresh ideas for cbs program lineup castle savannah mueller who themselves the schmaltz kings were creating in la based rock opera and unique written and composed by credit on the pilot the or inspired like i said by the strip malls around the mall culture in the late eighties early nineties. Kind of creating something colorful and also their love of musicals. It's like a hat and a hat on a hat. The pitch to cbs was also pretty weird. The schmaltz kings cleared off sagansky desk and with the keyboard and two speakers. They perform songs from the show in character.
"john carpenter" Discussed on Around the World in 80s Movies
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"john carpenter" Discussed on Around the World in 80s Movies
"Himself now. Princip darkness was released on october. Twenty third nineteen eighty-seven and given its low-budget. It actually was a pretty big hit. It debuted at number two in. Its initial week. That was just behind fatal attraction which coincidentally carpenter had turned down directing fatal attraction as being sort of knockoff of clean misty for me but prince of darkness of course taken a lot less money than fatal attraction it took in about fourteen million dollars overall during its run off of its three million dollar budget now while this was financially successful unfortunately critics were not quite on board with what carpenter was doing here. Critics were wondering why carpenter's creative control. You know the reason why he was doing. This movie was to something that was different than what the studios were making and they felt that this was an inferior film. Rehashed a lot of story elements from carpenters prior films also slasher films at that time had been leading the market in this way that turned away. A lot of critics and the other horror films at that time were considered jokey comedies. That mostly made fun of the genre and here was one that was taking it absolutely seriously. It felt very antiquated to a lot of people. Critics deemed horror at this time has passed say and found the plotting within prince of darkness as incoherent critics by and large tended to view horror as a kind of an inferior genre and they thought that carpenter here was regressing by making another entry. Now there is kind of a lumbering buildup. But i think that the tension does ratchet up when the evil starts kit unleashed for its second half. It really doesn't get any less silly. You know these schizo does roaming the churches perimeter. That's kind of goofy reiteration of the gangs in assault on precinct. Thirteen but the seats. That are internal to the church. I do think carry some pretty good jolts. i mean you know. This is another siege film for john carpenter with many similarities. Especially to the thing you know you have..
"john carpenter" Discussed on Around the World in 80s Movies
"The build up of this film is masterful. The quality of the characterizations are the short but very effective. And when it all boils over. There's a lot of power in these performances. And while nitpickers can certainly have a field day over thing i mean it. It does have some plot holes that has some implausible developments here and there. I don't think it really matters because of what you might be looking for going in because the thing is of movie that hooks you in doesn't let go even when you think you can't look you can't turn away either. And that's what people want in their horror. Even though it is graphic horror film. I do think ultimately is succeed more because of its psychological horror than it does in its graphic horror. And that's why. I'm going to give the thing. Four stars out of four four stars on ice keo meas. I think the thing is an excellent movie. I it's a movie that's infinitely real watchable for me. I've watched it probably a dozen times over the years. And i like it more each time. There's just so much going on there and the more distance. I think it is from the time that he came out the more that you you can appreciate the thing. This is a movie that you don't even have to be a lover of the nineteen eighties to appreciate it. And that's why. I think the thing really holds up enough to give it four stars out of four now. The thing did take awhile to for patients to happen. In two thousand five there was a miniseries sequel contemplated to be made for the scifi channel by universal called. Return of the thing. Frank darabont was going to produce but it didn't quite make it to production. There was a big budget remake. Prequel theatrical feature.
"john carpenter" Discussed on Around the World in 80s Movies
"They'll the loneliness of being there without women. It was kind of a humorous scene where mcgrady is shown to have a sex doll that was later removed as something. That was too distracting by carpenter. Now one of the pre carpenter screenwriters. I don't know who john carpenter didn't want to name the person but try to frame the alien in the end as he positive symbiotic force rather than a destructive force carpenter. Happy to be a nonconformist. He was kind of a lifelong loner. He wasn't fond of a message of symbiosis. But if you want to see a version of that concept and you want to see women in version of the thing there's a twenty eighteen film called the nile. Elation that has a mostly female cast that does explore these symbiosis theme that this other screenwriter tried to present but was rejected by carpenter. Now getting back to things. Shooting took place primarily in juneau alaska as well as stewart british columbia and carpenter and his crew endured harsh cold lack visibility at various times carpenter and several members of the second crew went without heat or electricity or running water for several days at a time while they were scouting locations and filming exteriors using acting doubles warming sheds and vats of soup were needed at pretty much all times especially because the trailer heating was inadequate. Everybody pretty much got sick. Interiors were done mostly at universal studios but they refrigerated the studios as much as he could to keep things cold. Not quite a freezing. But they did have to contend with things like chemicals in the air and kerosene smoke filling their lungs so it wasn't any picnic either if you're a carpenter. Fan does have his theme of people trapped and having to fight their way out. It's very familiar in that respect than this speaks to carpenters own years of being confined physically or in his career. His love of horror is kind of entrapment. As well. Fear of he feels that. That's a universal. Fear that all audiences the world over can relate to you carpenter in particularly though has a fear of being controlled by other people because he feels that losing that autonomy that he has means losing his identity or the identity of the art that he's trying to create carpenter always seen as kind of an outsider looking in he's not somebody who's able to assimilate very freely. He resists a conformity in favor of maintaining his individuality which is why the thing is something that makes him personally. Afraid now. it's not always easy for carpenter to make this movie. They reduced campbell's characters from thirty seven to twelve for the screenplay but carpenter still felt challenged because there are too many personalities to have to give direction to for particular scenes too difficult to photograph all of them especially when they called for all of them to appear. In a specific room indoors carpenter felt that the middle of the film is also to talky so we started to restructure it. He decided to reshoot several scenes outdoors taking up to the snowy locations to provide more outdoor experience with.
"john carpenter" Discussed on Around the World in 80s Movies
"He agreed again to sign up with universal after this because it was a positive experience wanted him to adapt. Stephen king's firestarter with bill. Lancaster doing the script so they signed the contract before the thing came out by the way kurt russell was not john first choice to play. Mccreevy which is i. Guess the closest thing. This film has to a main hero. Lancaster wrote mccreadie with clint eastwood and mine carpenter happened to love eastwood but he was unavailable to them at the time carpenter then pursued other names to look into jeff. Bridges was a favourite nick. Nolte sam sheppard christopher walken. Tom atkins was another favorite. Scott glen at harris brian. Dennehy jack thompson. Also scott the role. An australian actor many others were considered. There's kevin kline there's a lot of names throughout their harrison. Ford i mean you name an actor in that age range and they pretty much were considered at some point. Things started to change when carpenter went to alaska. Started to shoot second unit footage there and he found the experience so grueling that at that point he really didn't want any kind of premadonna actors to have to cuddle up there so he needed somebody he could rely on and that meant the most reliable actor he could think of kurt russell. Russell really didn't have interest in doing a horror film but he did consider john carpenter to be a master of the horror genre so when carpenter did finally ask russell dropped his intended debut direct project zone that he was doing with his actress wife season humbly and he signed onto the thing he didn't want to regret missing out later on a potential all time classic now for the rest of the cast carpenter really wanted mostly unknowns for the more comical character of palmer. The initially looked at stand up. Comedians like jay leno and garry shandling and charles fleischer. You know they all play for funny but none of them could really play terrified very convincingly so they decided to get a real actor for the role hoping he could play comical now after considering isaak's and mark moseley was tapped.
"john carpenter" Discussed on Around the World in 80s Movies
"Thirteen they also wanted somebody who happen to be under contract with universal to head. The film ned tannen assigned the texas chainsaw massacres. Tobe hooper. and kim henkel who they just signed to a contract to develop the thing. Hooper ankle went to work on it. It was kind of a rush job because there was a looming writer strike within about a month and they seem to not be interested. Very much in the paranoia themes of campbell's original story. They veered off into something that was later described as an incomprehensible riff on moby. Dick universal was very unhappy with this direction. They decided to release. Hooper in hinkle from future drafts. They started courting during this period director. John landis who was working on and i'm house he also passed playwright and author david willsie. He came on board for a new script but he like hooper also straight from the source material. He had this that resembled a light source. That enveloped people wasn't where they want it to go either. As william f nolan. He was hot off of logan's run. He was more faithful to the original story. But the producers. Were not very enamored of the script. He turned in left to finally put the project on. Hold nolan's treatment by the way. He was published commercially with campbell's novella. Back in two thousand nine. You can find it online if you are interested. Coin at this time started pitching carpenter again to direct. He showed fostering term in a raw version of halloween. But they didn't really like that one even with a nod that was paid to the first version of the thing in one scene where the babysitter and the kids are watching it on television. However when halloween became the most successful independent feature of all time back in nineteen seventy eight and then alien did extremely well at the box office. In nineteen seventy-nine universal took notice and decided to revive the project and carpenter. Got his shot the carpenter. At the time he was finishing up on the fog he had escape from new york lined up after that he was also writing. Screenplays one for halloween too. And then there was another one four jennings. Lang project called lightning. He didn't really have time to come up with a script as you normally would so somebody else would have to do it. So the producing team compiled a list of ten potential writers and after the top choices didn't pan out including richard matheson and a few other prominent ones cohen suggested the name bill lancaster. He was the son of actor. Burt lancaster and cohen had worked with him before and had a very positive opinion of him. Cohen and carpenter happened to like lancaster screenplay for the bad news bears especially the way he handled a lot of characters economically with very distinct personalities and humorous banter tampered with a lot of rep. Rt when lancaster was brought in to talk to carpenter his ideas really jived with where carpenter wanted to go with the material and he was hired. Now there's one snag. That did occur shortly afterward and that was when john carpenter announced that his dream western project called el diablo might have to take precedence over the thing that left his availability in doubt for the foreseeable future. So walter hill was contacted..
"john carpenter" Discussed on Around the World in 80s Movies
"Equiped stir dot net today. I'm going to be getting into a film that has been largely anticipated by listeners. Of this podcast at least a few have reached out to me and put it on their list of ones. They want me to cover the thing from nineteen eighty two also known as john. Carpenter's the thing. Because john carpenter did direct. This film it's r. rated. It does have pervasive gore a lot of gore for its time violence and language. The run time is an hour forty nine minutes. I guess kurt russell's the main star is more of an ensemble piece. it does have wolford bramley. Keith david richard meser. Tk carter and a whole bunch of other john carpenter of course is the director and the screenplay is credited to bill.
"john carpenter" Discussed on We Hate Movies
"Priests shoots vampire the Crotch like twelve. That's for sure well. Nobody acknowledged it. Guns are like you know. They distract the vampire they slow the vampire down muzzle. Go right for the CROTCH. It just reminded me though that Simpson's where they do Mister Burns Dracula and it's like Oh horrors give mistake leases like dad. That's growing I think of the line from that exact same episode where it's like No. I'm the head vampire master vampire bullshit. Totally CIDRE when I said you could kill him by sticking his Dick and shooting his day. It was a joke. A joke where we're getting to know each other padre. I'm talking. I'm talking about hard Dick Soviet talking about her all the time. All this shooting does lead to James was like hey use the steak him in the heart with the stack. And that's still really doesn't do much. I think around here. Daniel Baldwin is still pulling guys and vampires out because the sunlight and there's a moment where where Jim where James Woods is is being dragged by vampire. And it's like Oh my God. It's a ticking bomb. He's going to go out there and be exploded with all right. It's kind of bad as he rolls off at the last second. But he's stay. He stake in her as well. And it's really just like one ever yet. He's a maniac the way I understand it. It's a stake in your done. That's how I that's how it should be sure that's the way I do it. You one of those old fashioned garlic should hurt him. Aren't you know I think Vampires should be sparkly? They should have fun and vacations and I think they should go to school and get a diploma and when they fuck the bed breaks should be hipster. Vampires there should be a sub and vampires. There should be every kind of Vampire Saban dom definitely like it So yeah it. This all comes to nothing. Because they're like will FARC we didn't get all of them and now the Sun's going down uh-huh at according to rule number ten. You can't even kill a master at night. Okay why is that old priests try to high tail it? The master rises Yang valid. And again here's the thing he talks and he's talking a lot and he's got character with agency or he never talks at all. This half in half out is actually kind of bad. Yeah you're totally right. I mean here. They just took a load Jack. Exactly I also know. No deal with Our friend what's that Guy's name Mike? Something the Karate Dream Mike. Dexter no come on Eric. You know the guy that the the number two like Barnes my karate badboy boy Mike Barnes thanks vampires bad boy Mike Barnes. What did he showed up in this movie? That'd be pretty bad ass because Terry Silva could use a fucking little side you know. I'll tell you what he'd break brick. That's my you break fucking brick. I write padres time to release the special weapon. Ref Machos with us and get them physically fighting all of these vamp and we also have Tim Robbins saying Vampire Vampire. Yeah that Dude's definitely gonNA slice of Vampires via freaking them out Yeah so somewhere around here. Katrina finally fully turns into a Vampire Bites Daniel. Yeah they all kind of separate The the Padre jumps behind a store window thing. And it's kind of hanging out laying load James Woods gets knocked out by Valich and Daniel Baldwin finally succumbs to his vampire injuries. Thank God And so it's Kinda Great. I love this part of the movie. It's James Woods Hog tied to the front of a truck Not Too Shabby and this is when Dun Dun Dun Maximilian. Shell comes out. Oh yeah the cardinal himself as crooked and it's because Classic Vampire Selling Point Maximilian. Shell is getting on in years. You know more sunsets behind him then ahead of him and he wants to live forever forever so of course he does a deal with the vampire community ass and he mentioned how his faith has waned over the years. It's it's it's it's interesting and then and James would is called like a lone crusader and and this is part of the ritual to have like this one super believer that they would crucify on a burning cross. I don't know why it has to be a burning. Well you know because vampires are very showy. The answer I was I was my my attention was waning at this point and then it was a James Woods kitten crucified. Hold on but not before putting my phone island but not before saying that a valid here quote poll smoking fashion. Yeah thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen I'm getting more and more okay with this crucifixion as we go. Oh Yes light it up dude I like how reprehensible James Woods is in real life and as this character. There was a mention of his backstory which I thought was pretty fascinating that his parents were killed like his father was bitten by a vampire and his father turned and killed his mother and then he had to kill his father then ever since then he became a ward of the Vatican and was raised to become a master. Slay slay raised by the church. Man I don't WanNa be a word of the Vatican I'll tell you that much Absolutely not oh man. Oh man if they should've gotten him to be a special guest on Buffy fucking racist slayer there ever was out man. Here comes fucking Jack Crow. Buffy you're going to hate working with Jack Me Buffy Puffy can can you feel me can you? Can you feel and sixteen but come on your call right you? Good also keep a puck and Kenya away from me. Don't don't don't go back. Don't go back to Robert Deniro to stay here with me. Kendra apologies to enjoy that. Everything right it's all right. Are you in school?.
"john carpenter" Discussed on We Hate Movies
"No carpenter. Just give me a goat. Actually doing it will be burned myself a really into this role. I used to do this all the time. Don't worry I'm ready for this. I mean like we said this is kind of Daniel Bolton's biggest role anyway. I can imagine him throwing himself into it again. It's carpenter James Woods. The known quantity totally So Woods and the Padre Padre get to this hotel. James Woods immediately. Hits this guy with the phone which is fucking great But this is where basically exploring the link between this dude. Valich is the Namion valley and Katrina. We see him bucket decapitate. This priest again pretty decent special effect. Yeah and this is when I start falling asleep to be honest. Well this is the mystery unfolding definitely the that is unfolding as valid is trying to find this special cross that was from Old Europe. That's now buried in the southwest in order to complete the ritual to make him like a day walker. An immortal vampire that is not affected by this fucking break. The Cross and half put half Europe half in fucking South America. Call it a day but it's a show us the people it's the thing. The thing is known was as smart as Stephen. Saint in the Catholic Church. No I don't think they had other things in mind at the 'cause I paid attention. So the the the cross it was used in the ceremony that turned. Valich from a a priest who was like working with the poor he became like a Bohemians. They say And and they tried to like it was like a botched exorcism and the early reverse X. Or something to that effect and they turned him into in doing this and it was a frame job. Because just because he was helping the poor They turned him into a vampire and this will turn him into the vamp like the best vampire. We'll right because he's a master who can also walk during the day. So essentially. He'll be unstoppable. It was just another whoopsie daisy by the Catholic church in a long line of would absolutely dude. I have to deal with the problem now. Let's not to think of what we did. Let's just do. What would cabinet? Is that right though that they say that they did this? Reverse exorcism on this. Because he was helping the poor yeah he became like Heat in that little Maximilian Shell thing. It becomes a revealed he was like he became. Bohemian and he was like I believe in all of you know God's children deserve everything like it was an equality guy in they're like well fuck that. Shit and they Put a detail right so valiquette was cool with like same sex marriage back that who knows. Listen listen listen anything resembling communist values. You get turned into a vampire that is rule number one rule number two. You molest kids. Use Sons of pitches. We are GONNA move you to a different church at. It's GonNa be really annoying and keep paying. You gotTA keep getting paid. What is Bohemian? Even mean is like always aligned to the HABSBURG crown checklist Avakian or is he just like a hip though. I think it means that that word that James Woods used earlier in the film six. Yeah Yikes so like now. They're they know what he's after so they have to find what he's where he's going in the pre black cross were also told is the the Bercy Cross. There's this other big scene where he aware of Alec actually gets the Bercy Cross. It's kind of hilarious. It's outside of looks like a Franciscan kind of monastery kind of thing. And it's all these vampires who were told our masters wake up and it's like six to eight different people men and women coming out of the dirt like with their eyes closed their magical man. I got one guy like with both eyes open. He's looking for. I worked broader. My mouth are horrible. I did it again. Laura Palmer this kind of reminded me of David Lynch ride like in the in the new twin peaks with those dirt Mun. Jackie is yet totally man. Getting late. Dude I love I honestly the scene of the vampires storming this monastery dude. These guys are like sitting ducks to these vampires. They're just you get a whole sequence of them like just being slade by these all these monks being thrown and ripped apart. It's not bad it's not bad there's one deed it's Kinda great 'cause there's one guy who's clearly just like pushed over but his robes like land on something that's on fire at this dude just starts cooking up this monks just on fire. It's all the pyrotechnic work in this movie phenomenal. It's pretty. It's a great man. It's a grade and the real problem with his movies. They're so cold on these footsteps for so long. Yes it is a lot of just playing catch up. I mean 'cause like when When the team gets to the monastery you know everybody's long gone so long gone that they're putting in the sound of like flies buzzing around so these dudes are now just like rotting. That's how long they're byline these vampires the whole trying to get Laura Palmer to like see what vallecas up to through the psychic link. They see like oh he's GonNa get the cross because there's the map and he kills Father Malina so then we just go to a church and that Father Molina presided over. And it's just like talk. Newest state trooper just feels like padding. Yeah this this cop character in that priests in that priests church is hilarious because James. Woods is like yeah. We're going around the country investigating hate crimes on Catholic people. Do you mean that. They're doing the heat backwards right. That's okay yeah go this way. It's kind of a funny exchange though because the COP is like. Oh now wait a second all right any new information you get. You'RE GONNA share it with US right. James Woods is like yeah because they mistake him for like fed. I guess now he's he's straight up says he's working for the Catholic Church. It is amazing. Like all right. This way worked for the Catholic Church. I don't know man. How about the fucking federal government steps in the Catholic Church? Okay cool wait outside fuck head get the fuck Outta here crash. A Sheriff I. Do you have any quote Unquote Vampires? You need me to kill you know. We got a little bit of payments to me if you had some quote Unquote Vampires de ray rent stabilized. Apartments could take care of those quarter-on-quarter Vampires. You Know Kevin. You just reminded me. There is a thing in that opening motel scene. Where Mark Boone Junior and some other dude are trying to impress the sex workers By saying that their vampire hunters and it brought to mind like this is still a world where vampires or not a known thing right yes it is still a mystery kind of thing so I feel like why are they telling people 'cause well it'd be let's be honest. The Catholic Church doesn't keep its about shut leaks out before this is Iraq. Yeah they were also getting their rocks off and I feel like it's like whatever like we tell we've stepped on the Moon. Man Yes share. That's true so it. So this other padre at this dude from a hell on wheels Roy a favorite. Yes Guinea course. My my absolute favorite. This guy was in late seat. What was the actor's name again to ten Guinea? Yes that might be a slur but yes we we accept it played in Helen Wheels. He didn't really emerge towards the later seasons. I think like three through five or so where he kinda played like a check to Sir Thomas Durant of course. Of course Thomas. Durant is doing the expansion out west making the railroad. The thing is this guy is doing it from the other way. And this when the show finally decides to address the whole Chinese labor of creating the the Railroad. It took them three seasons to address that. Yeah Yeah I well. We're not GONNA get a four season. So why don't we do something worth a damn like? The first two seasons are show was very much like were in Kansas. Okay we're just hanging out cans Gotcha Gotcha Gotcha this guy. A player in one of my favorite law and orders. He's one of those guys who killed his wife His like his girlfriend her daughter and their employer and then like act like seduced. Everybody like the not his lawyer the jury and everybody like because he's such a nice guy really. It's a really good episode. If you can find it it's it's a og law and order Geelani Order. Love me some. Ojea law and order. Ooh Oh wow you speak in vampires. I just noticed. In Twenty Sixteen. There was a show that started. Which according to this is how wheels and now. It's a show called Van helsing. Oh yes there you gotta shorter. Yeah I believe. It's on the SCIFI network. People love shows that like nobody watches? But if you say it in a room with more than one hundred People Twenty Hulu. Hey you know what? Oh Yeah Vanessa. Helsing distant relative of famous vampire. Hunter Abraham van helsing. Oh so it's like modern day. Oh I don't know everybody. I'm looking at this picture dude. With Horn people are tweeting. You right now in real time by arts. What wait for. She's three. It gets really good. Sure it's sexy is fuck folks from these promo photos. Steam punk kitties out is it. Steam pockets deemed bug. I'm in I might be. It looks kind of a little actually so I don't even know like they kind of just show up at this town. They lay siege on this town That's where he he has taken the large cross to do the ritual. San Tiago is the name of the town and I guess I guess they. It's actually another interesting thing that I wish I could see is they realize like the whole town is gone. And they're either dead or have been turned into Vampires and James. Woods is basically like all right so you know he has been working on this for a long time. He's been working on taking out this town bit by bit. So he's got this like entire town as its home base kind of all interesting. Shit. I'd Rather Watch. Yes exactly like they come. Apparently this is a movie where right before it started. They slashed the budget by two thirds. So that probably has something to do with it. Yeah that's a good call. I didn't read it. That's unfortunate but the funny thing is even for a slashed budget. I mean thankfully. They kept so much of it in you know. Just the production value of the special effects goes don't look cheap carpenter doesn't do movies that look cheap. I mean like find me one like on any budget. He'll find to make it look like something goes the. Mars actually is probably the worst. It's the most. Cgi you see him us. I think I will say though that I think The what the Fuck. The Twenty ten movie award. The Ward is cheap. Only the sense of like you can tell by like the quality of the digital camera that he's using to make the movie. Looks very cheap. Know what Netflix. Gift John. Carpenter movie if fucking does make a fucking movie. I don't know man. I saw him in concert which ruled by the way. I think he's just kind of happy smoking pot with his son he might very music and just doesn't WanNa do shit. There might be. Yeah I totally I. Totally feel. His quote was when The the new Halloween came out. And they're like Oh. Are you excited about this new Halloween Blizzard? I'm excited that. They paid me like they consulted him. But it wasn't very much like yeah. I get consulted because they get fucking paid and that's cool because I'm John Carpenter. I'm one hundred years old and I'm just hanging out well back to nine hundred ninety eight So John Just about to sign contract over for a seventy million dollars to make this vampire movie with Alec Baldwin Right. Yeah Daniel Baldwin. Yeah Man. I love album. Yeah no great. What you're saying Alec do right. Yeah we're we're doing the movie with Baldwin Mary to the mobs Alec Baldwin Right Yeah. Mojo technically can't get mad at me because I said a Baldwin was circling the role So they're gearing up to take this down this town of goons they realize the safest place all these vampires to be sleeping during the days in this jail which I guess has like multiple floors below it or all. The cells are something that we really don't see a lot of this jail. There's a lot of elevator business and I'm like what? What are we spending so much time on this elevator? Down Point for me a lot to fuck this whole we gotta do this. Elevator Action Bullshit. Great game totally. Great Game But this is I noticed it at the beginning of the movie but this is where I finally made the note about it. Dudes James Woods fucking fake as fuck crossbow..
"john carpenter" Discussed on We Hate Movies
"Junior farts playing Jay. Kay He fights it looks at the couch. What you don't like philophical. Some days I wipe off the farts some days. I went off to come and the blood dude couch driver at an I love it. We got of course Sheryl Lee Laura Palmer herself as in this movie. It's hilarious because I was so excited to see her in a non ten eight grill literally. Not Be dead as the COOLEST ETHAN. Li- like she's like not alive for more than five seconds the dispel and she's also pretty much comatose and weird throughout the entire thing anyway. Yeah John this is Cheryl's agent. Yeah she has to be dead. Play living person. It's just that she's technically dead in the winter's bone you don't know that but you know it's in the script she is. Katrina one of the prostitutes servicing. The party's she's of course. You know going straight for James Woods I mean. That's that's where you have to go in that scenario Daniel Baldwin over Shang soon actually if I sank soon or like the padre see if he's a game or at heartache heartache. I'd rather get fucked by Daniel Baldwin. James would absolutely yeah sure. I agree with James. Woods is fucking Yellow S. T. This movie to would be grateful. Vp Thankful pudge thing. Yeah I mean. That is kind of comforting. Could be that small spoon. Were really opening it up to the floor. Then Mark Boone. Junior over the two of them. I think the thing is like I would like to hear Mark Boone. Junior's Adventures I. I don't know if being slammed by. Maybe maybe if he's from behind him on top Baldwin on top. Maybe I want this bill next day with Mark Boone. Junior I guess is what I'm going for. Okay I think the thing is the fantasy should be we could just hang out with Mark Okay and nobody has to fuck anybody. Can I fuck yes? You can fuck all thank you. The master comes in. He starts laying waste to people Mark Boone. Junior is the first ago in spectacular fashion. The best movie. I think it is great. There's a knock at the door and everybody's like oh we're out of beer and he's like no. I've got beer and he he gets up and opens the door. This dude cut some fucking scrotum throat and couldn't believe it. His body just falls apart. It is exquisite cutting demonic sweet. This dudes laying waste everybody. Another great kill though. I have to say I've never seen this happen at a vampire movie. The master himself takes a shotgun and shoots the padron the throw dude. It's fantastic. That's really something I guess. It's to make him commit suicide. Send Him to Hell Dude. Absolutely now Thomas Ian Griffith in this movie is mostly without dialogue. But I feel like this must be like what he considers his the biggest part of his career. You think so overcrowded. Kid You know karate kid three three excuse bad boy Mike. Barnes was kind of jockeying for the top slot in the in the baddie category. In that I just feel like this movies. Like he's like okay. You did karate kid part three now. You really fucking break into your work with John Carpenter. You're playing the master vampire named Yawn. Valid or whatever apparently is the original. Vampire Dracula doesn't didn't exist. But we all know Dracula exists but you know. Here's the thing I do appreciate This movie not bothering with the D word agreement but then why set him that the same with point in history like thirteen hundreds medieval Europe. Its Steam Kirk correct. Like Vampire Dracula Anyway. But they're also rewriting dracula like vampire All over the place like clearly wants to make his own thing. It should have been like. Oh Yeah Vampires. The day started in the nineteen seventies. A guy at a t shirt SERPICO was the first There was a there was a dude who did some bad lewd bathroom and fucking bit this lady's neck and it was all downhill from there. If you don't suck her blood how do we know we can trust you? Exact.
"john carpenter" Discussed on We Hate Movies
"So this team is they're hunting down nest of goons as they're calling them looking for the master and you see the whole like process here it is. It's a fun way of hunting vamps. You know they're like dragging him out into the sunlight and it is. It's fun but you know it's it's Kinda horrific in that regard because you're looking for the master and got a house Assab this. It's like dude. Come on I want to get dom here. I WANNA get masturbate. Her out here my God but I do like I do like the idea of shooting these vampires with arrows that have this retractable like wire. That is attached Daniel Baldwin's pickup truck and he liked backs up and reverse and brings them out into the sunlight and they they exploded in quite a fashion Andrew. The James Woods even says crispy critters he does. Oh Man I I did light up at that crispy. Critters line Here's an idea for it makes sense the ideas you go in you hook them and like some as a truck usually it's Daniel Baldwin. Let's go fucking shed and they they drag him out and they burn. They burn hilariously. Why not burn the house down? That's the move and then then what's going to happen. They can't go anywhere it's fucking. Gm Do think David Koresh was a vampire absolutely and the ATF is a secret like vampire hunting organization. That was one of the disappointing parts about that. Paramount Network mini series Starring Taylor Kitsch. Is they left out? All the parts of David. Koresh being a vampire that's just weaken the story yeah he needed virginal blood. They both called a bunch of women their brides. So yeah absolutely true. Chris One thing we do have to mention So James Woods is whatever the Jack Crow but dude Daniel Baldwin playing modern. Toya Kuni Mon Mon Toya Look I kept thinking about Al Pacino. Even though that's Tony Montana but still but I don't know what fucking Bacon Grease US put in his hair. This is jet black which is not the Daniel Baldwin. I know and Love I get from homicide but you know like you know he just not. It's IT'S A bad. Look I think Steve. It's always Bacon Grease. It's actually does for you one for me one for you. He's a scooping. Bacon grease out of a pair. I prepared this Bacon while I bathed advocating. I fucking love about fucking Montoya is that he has a fucking customer service. Ed said on the silly on his huge Ed AMMO party. This this little heads that is hanging on by a thread So did you put a heavy load in your dryer and might have done it though. You know what we're going to send out a technician a hold on. I've got a vampire on line. Three burn motherfucker bird you calling about maytag repair or vampire-hunting. Please press too hard times out here. I have to have two jobs. It takes data. Do this dragon. These vampires could unplug it. I'm going to hang up if you re plug it back in or else we've got nothing to talk about. Look you put the dishwasher liquid in the little space. You don't drizzle it all over issues. That's not how it works but I can't. I can't stress. This enough garbage goes in the garbage. I had a customer service thing. I was ordering a bookshelf from website. I'M NOT GONNA name. What through four different variations. A key kept coming in wrong. I they sent me the wrong pieces and they say the wrong bookshelf. Then they sent me a metal great for no reason to burn. Did you have to send any of this back? I through? They were cool enough. They're like just throw it away. Okay great exactly so but like the La- every time you call. It's very like sweet midwestern woman like oh my goodness sir. That's terrible. How did that happen? That's ridiculous and the last one I got was this guy and his Latin. I'm fucking at the end of it. Here o'memory refunded this fucking things and I don't blow up when customer service people know about doing that at the time. I'm just explaining but I'm pretty heated and I'm like listen money back that a guy sure that's why I this sounds like something out of a movie I gotta get..
"john carpenter" Discussed on We Hate Movies
"We all wanted to Vegas Jersey. Quick Story This guy new in a high school did not like him. His father worked with my mom his father doctors over for you. Dr Kids so I find out what maybe five years ago for some reason. We're talking about this guy. So what what what's going on with What's his name? You know the sun is like Oh yeah. He had to sell his beach house in his car because he got into online gambling. And he like he thought he was going to be like the no the guy with the shades and the poker tournament. Oh man it's a bad problem especially I I can imagine right now. People like well. That's how I could make money and it's like dude. Do not fuck with the online gambling. You could be the next What's his name? The new Daniel Grou new. What is that guy? He's a professional poker player shades cabin. They're all wearing shades. So we start at a as James Woods puts it a New Mexico shithole right and he's wearing shades because he's a professional vampire hunter and how. I would always love to be introduced in a motion picture Daniel Baldwin taking a Piss on the side of the road another IMDB Trivia. Did you hear that you hear this? You see this this. It's the street. They Alec Baldwin took this role and then Brat for a little while and then it was like oh. I can't do it. Why don't you cast Daniel Ball? I would say I would say what happened. Probably was a junk carpenter got Daniel Baldwin and just act like Alec Yes just do an impression of Alec. That's the best thing you can do that. Well that's what that's what life told him to do. Not John Carpenter true but I don't think it's good anywhere else here. It is while he was in now since we did death wish for the crackdown. I watched that Charles Bronson impersonators movie. Death kiss which is a loose sequel to the death wish franchise and Journal Baldwin. Claes like the man cow. Ask Radio DJ talking about the scum of the street whatever it is straight up just an Alec Baldwin impression. That's I mean it's weird because like their brothers so like sure they might sound a little the same. I don't even Baldwin. He's different and Billy Baldwin. I feel like Daniel is the one that because he looks the most sort of like Alec or at least like rotund Alec Bright like it it could you say that again a rotund. Alex I love. Well he was the one that The only clone of Al that they kept. Yes the rest of them they had to go. You know they're in the jars and everything. Well he even has the same like gate that alley like like I always. I didn't really notice is with Alec Baldwin. Until thirty rock because so much of that show was like walk and talk like the way Alec Baldwin kind of carries himself. Daniel Baldwin carries himself exactly the same way in this movie and like it's because he's he plays the same kind of characters like Billy Baldwin was always like the hunk of the Baldwin's if you will then you got your your Stephen Baldwin. He did seem like he was always like the young Baldwin but also with like do cool trying to be the cool Baldwin again right by Odom Bio Dome for sure. What's The Lord? Jesus Christ was he the only one who tried to be funny. I think that's true too. Yeah I think he's funny Baldwin. Do you think at some point in the nineteen eighties. Adam Baldwin was at a diner and then like all four Baldwin brothers showed up like hey man wrong name wrong decade wrong. Diner kicked him out could come. You GotTa Patch me in you got with you guys come on. I would love to see like a Baldwin Battle Royale other way. Alec is Pretty Funny Right. We were just talking about thirty rock. He's very funny. Yeah that sort of came later though for him it was like that was like his is turn so yeah. I mean he's I will say this really quickly. He's very funny in Jonathan Demme's married to the mob and also beetlejuice is pretty comedic. That's fair that's true. I'm wrong about that. No but you are right. Those those roles for Alibaba were few and far between earlier on and now. It's kind of like well now. It's just fucking donald trump on us and they were second to the fact that he was a hunk like even Baldwin is not a hunk but alex was a fucking hunk. Oh yes live luck in God isolate that audience. I mean have you seen Working Girls Ladies and Gentlemen Ladies and gentlemen have you seen work. No I haven't trump your honk wise. Billy Baldwin was like a model a different type of hung. That's like the slender model. God and Alec is like you want a big guide. Bob You or whatever get bumped by a slim guy dude and also billy Baldwin. Didn't get a good. I'm trying to think of movies. Like other than sliver. And then he got good in the squid and the whale. He's got backdraft which I think is a tuned and both of those. Stay to fucking Cindy Crawford and that one movie fair fair game my God. I watched that a lot as a young young man. You know. Here's a little bit of a tidbit did you know. That's that is a based on the same book as Cobra. I yeah wait. What movies based on Air Game is that right? Yeah Billy Baldwin. Cutting pizza with scissors is my question. And Cindy Crawford is the pizza so there. Scumbag vampire hunters. There's a ton of them in the beginning of this movie. It's a real team here and this is it's a thing where it's like. I get it economical storytelling. You want a pair this team down but it would be rad to have like some kind of Prequel of this movie where these guys are going around killing people especially very entertaining in these early scenes. A very young Mark Boone. Junior what's weird. It's because they're not. Nobody's you know what I mean like the cast people here. One of the guys is the doodoo played. Shang soon in mortal Kombat was also awesome. I feel like I've carbon calls even if it's like low pay like you you get in there. Oh yeah no doubt about it. John Carpenter as me. It'd be a movie I'll be there yesterday This is a dark time for carpenter which I guess sort of still is ads really truly lifted. I was I was looking at that myself. Actually this is it is right after escape from La Is when he does this and after. I still like escape from La. I'm kind of a contrarian in that regard but after that he's he doesn't really have much right. You Got Ghosts of Mars bad the ward which I straight up turned off your. I heard nothing but bad things I didn't go in for. I could yeah. I'm not crazy about the war but I do. Kinda like Osa really. Yeah you know. So much of that was the fucking heinous soundtrack. Well Yo you have to get a fucking this. Is The carpenter FARC Guitar era? I WANNA give nuts. I'm sorry because it starts in in the mouth of madness that also has a far guitar. But it's a little better than those in. The Madness was better when I re watched it. Pretty recently added a good enough. I think that's I think his best movie of the nineties because he did that right before escape from L. A. or no sorry escape from La Ninety-six village of the damned ninety five. Not a good movie Though yes absolutely In the mouth of madness and then you can catch this on a shudder. I think it's kind of. It's like half worth your time. Bodybags exact. Its exactly half worth your time. Yeah but so much of it I think is carpenter acting in. The movie is like the crypt keeper surrogate kind of character. Oh and then. Also Jesus can't forget. Nineteen Ninety two is a definite state memoirs in invisible man..
"john carpenter" Discussed on We Hate Movies
"This week on the program has a film about. The undead smelled this much like stale beer. It's John Carpenter's vampires. I'm Andrew Jackson Stephen Sadek Eric Cisco Chris Cabin and we hate movies L. Everyone welcome to we hate movies. Thank you for tuning in as always. That's right John Carpenter's vampires from nineteen ninety eight directed by Preston sturges. Oh wait so John Carpenter. I was the one he did. After the. What the Gulliver's travels Preston sturges follow up. It was fun. It was the follow up to gullivers travel ties into our Patriot episode this month which is going to be on the thing another. John Carpenter a better John Carpenter film. Yeah absolutely which about being terrified about catching something. That'll be just in time for Halloween. I mean vampirism is also something that's like Oh am I going to catch it and it's like I wish that was the pandemic right now because I already can't go outside and the daylight share fucking you know might as well have a nice ravenous nightlife like a vampire would then. You're a sexy person for the rest of your life first of all. I've never been a sexy person so I think becoming a vampire would make me sexy life changing and death changing is what you have to become an expert in capes. Yeah like you need to know which one for which kind of night. It's it's a lot of stuff to although these are terribly sexy. Well that's the thing about this movie and why I will say a print i. I didn't see this in the theaters but I have seen this movie. Probably close to twenty times. Because I can't remember. It was a thing where I had it on like the early days a DVD or if it was like taped off of HBO or something this was a big TBS TNT here. I remember that Song this movie. Somehow I've never last night to change opinion. You're never got into it. I never saw it in full. I only saw parts of it and then are watching today. I realized why because I had to bail. Because a really drags at a certain point. Yeah and for a movie. That's a hundred and eight minutes to that's unfortunate because it's such a contained story but you know it's very simple like we have to do this before this time and then that's it it's GonNa be like we are dragging ass. I will say I wasn't the one thing about this movie is. I actually was never bored. I this movie does not bore me. It's just stupid as all hell by the hair dye. Well also I mean it's Tommasi in Griffith. Talking yes transient. I just look at him. Chris I want to run something by you. I wrote down in my notes. I came up with an alternate title for this from Dusk. Till don't I think we should workshop at a little bit but I think it's a good starting place is I'm GonNa crack a beer. It's the apocalypse gus. This we should start drinking on the air. You're right Oh already drinking. I've been drinking This owes a lot to do from dusk till dawn. That's a really good point. There's no doubt about it. I mean it's like what I was GonNa say was it's Oh why kind of appeal to me is because I don't think I saw from dust on until much later that's the but it's a movie where I was just so fascinated by scumbag vampire. Yeah because that's what this is. These are scumbag vampire hunters hunting scumbag vampire look the see the script and move. It was supposed to be filmed in. Nineteen ninety-four Industrial Donald. Supposed to come out the same time but there was fucking four years of negotiations between James Woods and Daniel Baldwin about gets to say bitch the most. It went on for four years. And they're like we're going to top it out at seven hundred You meet Jimmy. I need I need to take the Crown Jimmy idea. Here's the thing though about that car because Steve. You mentioned something similar yesterday when you're watching it about them saying bitch all the time so I was. I'm Bitch Watch when was screening at today. The first bitch does not happen until like fifty two minutes into the movie but from there have Occa- you get a fucking plug from the dam. And the weirdest thing is I think that carpenter is a misogynistic director. Like he's do director in terms of like he's done movies that are mostly centered around man Cetera. But like women are either like done justice or not. But like it's not like this is like a straight up misogynistic vampire movie but why that is though is a damn quits. Well yeah but I think what they're doing here is like oh it's fine because she's a monster or but then the thing is the way to fix that part of this movie. Is You make this priest character. The second priest he needs to be a woman. It's a nun and now we're doing something sure. Yeah that's a good call. What is a super none who could hold the screen like Tim? Guinea though Bayou Back Theory by the way folks I went on a week a pedia this and there was a little thing about this movie was almost and I think this was like when carpenter wasn't involved but it was almost dolph lundgren with Willem Defoe as possibly the vampire banner movie up at a movie better movie..
The Monster Movie Hall of Fame and 'The Invisible Man'
"Later in the show. I'll have an interview with Lebron L. The writer director of the new updated edition of the invisible man. A movie that shifts the perspective of the classic horror movie to the victim in this case played by the Amazing Elizabeth Moss when Elsa Clever Jonah craftsman and we had a fun chat about how he's reinventing the work of the historic universal monster movies and some of his aides filmaker. Heroes like James Cameron and Paul Hogan and John Carpenter but I I am joined by ringer contributor and one of the best film minds around Adam Neiman. Thanks for joining me Adam. Thanks for having me Adam. We're here to build another wing in the movie hall of fame. Today we said post and beam on the monster movie hall of fame. Now you know monster. Movies are tricky because there are two distinctions between them. One is your classical scare movie that enrapture audiences but maybe doesn't really mean very much and then. The other is the load-bearing bearing metaphorical monster that communicate something to the world about maybe it's ills or human psychology or things of that nature I assume that you are more fan of the latter. But May maybe that's not the case. I think I'm a fan of the ladder when it's less calculated You know the the joke I liked to tell his one day. Someone's GonNa make really good specific movie about a social problem like documentary and then at a press conference the director. She's going to be like this movie's a metaphor for zombies and just waiting for someone to do but I mean I think that in the last couple years because you have some like Jordan. Peele who has spoken not in terms of monster movies but in terms of horror movies. He's talked about you. Know his office for those social thrillers or Social Horror Movies and the metaphorical dimension to them. And so you know because monsters are a subset of horror movies as you say a delivery device for for scares those streams often do cross but yeah. I think some of the best monster movies of all time are definitely ones where monsters represent something whether it's something inside or outside society or something inside or outside people but I'm also just a a big fan of movies. Where like spooky things jump out at people in eat them? So it's a IT'S A. It's a fine balance before we get started on constructing this this list that we've put together here. Do you remember your first monster movie experience at the movie. That felt like a monster movie to me and I mean it it is a monster is when Pinocchio gets swallowed by the whale. Oh yeah which is. Obviously you know I mean there's a biblical reference there to to Joan in the whale and it's You know like for for for kids. Who Who who see Pinocchio? That whale is just nightmarish and terrifying and and gigantic. I mean my dad. I think that's the first movie he ever told you to. Took me to it. Just absolutely scared the hell out of me that and the giant squid in Twenty Thousand Leagues under the Sea. Same thing oh great both Some Disney spun con there. Well done by in and and you. Well I'm thinking about Pinocchio as you say it and the thing that scared me more than the whale is the sequence in which the boys turn into donkeys boys which is just absolutely disturbing and also kind of metaphorical in its way Not to put too fine a parasite point on it I'm trying to think of my first true scary movie experience. I feel like what I got two young Frankenstein before I got to Frankenstein in. It's funny. How when something like that happens how it can obscure your relationship to movies and I think it actually made me Not so much scared movie theaters but just just sort of happy and smiling and laughing. I tend to laugh at horror movies and monster movies because I get kind of perverse thrill out of them and I so I if young Frankenstein. Ken Count that would be. That would be my number one. I mean obviously. I saw a bunch movies that we'll talk about here on this list that a very young age. And maybe that's an opportunity to just go right into it. So here's what we're going to do. We'RE GOING TO GO CHRONOLOGICALLY. So there's a long history. I would say monster. Movies are essentially as old as movies themselves. So we're going to try to walk through. Essentially I don't know eighty ninety years of movie history and try to capture. What are the absolute most representative interesting compelling fascinating monster movies ever made and the monsters? I think the conversation should really be about the monsters inside of the movies and why they're so effective as devices for either sending those messages or just scaring the shit out of us. So you chosen five. I've chosen five. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA Ariffin vamp little bit. Why don't you give me your first pick going all the way back to the nineteen thirties? Sure and you know it's interesting because now when we've got it arranged chronologically we've got this this interesting blindspot which. Kinda be filled in as we go along. Which is we've both bypassed. The true initial cohort of Universal Monster. Movies right the very late twenties very early thirties because the first movie on my list is King Kong. So I have bypassed Dracula Frankenstein you know bride of Frankenstein Which are all these enduring literary properties that have been made and remade for a long time and I think the thing about King Kong. It just feels like the primal scene for me of monster as spectacle because he's not human sized right. He's not an actor costume he's not You know someone doing an accent or wearing makeup. He's a special effects creation and the thing about the original King Kong. Every time I watch it is. It is just so spectacular visually. In an analog era. You know the the integration of those stop motion special effects into old sets and the exaggerated camera angles on the actors and just the the surrealism of it. I've read that. The actual surrealists the the practicing artists within that within that movement re huge fans of King Kong for one thing. 'cause monster just keeps changing size. You know it's inconsistent it's inconsistent but it's also just stunning because from scene to scene you know when he's just represented by giant hander giants foot or the close ups on the is and then you can also still cut backing these establishing shots and seeing him in these different environments and. I think it's the way also that it goes from this primal island to this urban city. The monster in his home context. And then sort of you know thrashing around in the middle of maternity causing chaos. It's just like the deepest the deepest core horror fantasy. You know that that that I can think of I. I just think it's absolutely astonishing and I never tire of watching it. It's funny I think a lot of the monsters on our list Get repeated and reused and re contextualize over and over again the thing with King Kong is is the actual character of King Kong comes up over and over and over and over again. We're getting another King Kong movie this year. And for whatever reason I would say between King Kong and Godzilla. Those are really the only two significant monsters that we never tire of somehow. That don't don't expire. You know I think that the idea behind what King Kong represents and there's obviously been an extraordinary amount of both academic critical just fun writing about What happens when colonialists enter a less developed world and attempt to steal things from it But in addition to that it is this grand spectacle and we talk a lot on the show about is. It doesn't move. You have a reason to be seen in a movie theater. Then I feel like the original King. Kong is is one of the landmark achievements and you have to see this on a giant screen. There's nowhere else for to be seen. We'll for sure. I maybe just in terms of bridging King Kong with those other brand name monsters of the period he in genders the same kind of complex sympathy. That you have with Boris. Karloff Frankenstein. Right I mean you even have a rhyme in those two movies wherein Frankenstein. He picks the little girl up by the river without doing what he's doing. And you know drowns her accidentally and certainly king kongs intentions towards Aren't violent. They're they're in his sort of chivalrous or desirous or somewhere in between there. I think the reason he endures an even the point that God's Zilla as a character eventually got bent in King kongs direction because the original godzillas dot anthropomorphized sympathetic at all. And then over the years. And they made Godzilla more like King Kong. I think being inside that sort of like destructive force but you're also misunderstood and you're more a victim of circumstance than anything else that's a really appealing escapist fantasy for filmgoers even thinking the original King Kong as terrifying as it is and as brutal as the violences like a people have never seen it. He smush is people into Goo on screen. You know You're still with him and I think that that's a really great monster. Movie needs on some kinds of great monster movies that you need that possible level of identification or sympathy. So it's not just purely a nightmare. I think the original King Kong does that just just amazingly well. So you're next pick actually doesn't do the former thing that you were just describing which is there's no crushing there's no Gu. There's no absolute violence of a kind in your next week. What's your next movie? The next movie I have is is cap. People which is part of a cycle of really low key atmospheric horror movies produced in the mostly in the nineteen forties. Bhai guy named Val Luton and I would say that if you get a chance to see Ken. Jones documentary thou loot man in the shadows. I think it's the best documentary I've ever seen about a filmmaker at particularly about how Luton changed horror movies by using the lack of a budget. And the lack of franchise -able characters. You Know He. He didn't have the roster that universal was working with all these all star. You know horror icons so he made it less more. It's the it's the the the the cinema of of of suggestion and scary around the edges. But it's also movie about people transforming into cats I. It's a booby that plays the the ambiguity of is this or isn't this real up. You know for for a long time but it really does give over to the idea that the main character the heroin does when stimulated or afraid you know actually transform into A cat due to this this this Eastern European mysticism and it's also a movie. I'm sure they'll come later. That gets remade in the eighties and completely liberalised because instead of just talking with someone turning into a cat or remembering someone turning into a cat you actually see it on screen with with special effects and it's It's less effective to me. Do you do you like the Paul schrader version that you're describing the eighties version. I like the Paul schrader version. Because it's wild acid trippy. Paul schrader horror movie. And it's it's glory and it's actually not as full-on like latex hydraulic special effects. His other movies from the period. But I I love the original are you are you. Are you fond of the delude films directed by Jacques Turner? Who did a bunch of the other ones is it a? Is it a a a source of Phantom for you it is? I saw cat people and the Leopard men in a couple of them many many years ago and then actually over Halloween this year my wife and I were looking and you know as I get older Halloween. Getting more and more difficult to program. If we're not gonNA rewatch something. But we watched a couple movies. We watched The criterion collection had the ghost ship which I had never seen which I thought had. It has a very similar approach to kind of What's happening in the shadows? Which is most of his films are using that strategy of not showing the thing and then I watched by myself. The body snatcher and both of them. I thought were pretty great. I mean I this is also a case where I I. I probably saw Kent Jones's documentary before seeing any of the films and while that was a great thing for my film education it also kind of warped perception of the movie because I was seeing it as a kind of intellectual exercise in a way where I understood technique as opposed to some of these other movies that we're GonNa talk about here where I just happened to be nine years old when I saw it in a completely reorganized my brain chemistry in a way but I do like his movies. And especially this one that you've chosen well and then also just the last thing to say but it may be that because it's not special effects and spectacle it anticipates where horror movies would go in the sixties with the idea of the monster within right. I mean here. It's not a an invading apor vampire. It's the idea of a woman who's subconscious and her inner life motivates this transformations client about the link between monstrous and desire and monstrous and repression. Which is why it tends to be. You Know Pretty Beloved Academically but I mean by the sixties. Neither US talk about these movies. But you start having the idea of the human monster in movies like psycho or whatever else and you can kind of trace aligned from the way cat. People stages horror towards that stuff. I think I think that's right. And I think it's probably a capitals nifty double feature with the peg for this film the invisible man because that movie is also as much about.
"john carpenter" Discussed on The Fickle Fanboy Podcast
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"john carpenter" Discussed on Song Exploder
"You're listening to song explorer musicians, take apart their songs and piece by piece tell the story of how they were made. My name is Rashid your way. Nine hundred seventy eight John carpenter wrote directed and scored the film Halloween was made on a three hundred thousand dollar budget and ended up grossing over seventy million dollars making it one of the most successful independent movies ever released. The main theme to the film became one of the most iconic pieces of cinematic music ever made all weaned went on to become a franchise with ten more Halloween films since the original in October two thousand eighteen a new Halloween film was released directed by David Gordon green. And for the first time since the first film John carpenter. Composed the score that included remaking. His theme song for the new film. This time with the help of his son Cody carpenter and his godson Daniel Davies in this episode, the three of them breakdown. How they did it. I little history. Here's John carpenter. Boylan we made Halloween back in seventy eight. We didn't have any money for composer. So I always knew that I was going to be the composer. We had three days at a recording studio sound art studio in central LA. I knew I was going to do the main theme to Halloween night had that down pretty much everything else. I was gonna fake it just improvise it. So I had three days to do. The score originally. I wrote with a piano that was the easiest and simplest. But I didn't know how to use the synthesizers at the studio. And so Dan Wyman the synthesize a teacher at USC. He tuned everything up. So I would say to him I wanna rhythmic sound here. Or I want something that sound like violence. I didn't have to confront what would happen if he had a lot of money to hire a composer. Because we did. So I'll never know what I would have done. But everything worked pretty well. And I think I got all the melodies that I wanted. After the first movie, I never believed. There was much of a story left to tell. But the original people who held the rights decided. No, that's not a good idea. Let's keep making sequels. So I'm motionlessly divorced myself from long ago, and so John carpenter wasn't involved with the sequels, but then cut to twenty sixteen. Well, I heard about another sequel Halloween and all of a sudden Jason Blohm appears Jason is a high power rather successful horror producer in Hollywood. And he said to me, well, they're gonna make a sequel. So why don't you and I work on it? And we can make it good. We're make it better. And I said well, nobody's really challenged me that way. So this is great. I'll do it. The first step in making the new Halloween was to find a director. Jason blonde started seeing who is out there who was interested and finally came up with David Gordon green. He and his partner. Danny McBride had come. Up with story. So they came over here to pitch me the story and see if I liked it. I thought it was terrific. And they said, we'll will you do the music, and I said, yeah, I'll do it with my son and godson the three of us have been putting out albums, and we'll do it together. So that's how it all came about. I'm Cody carpenter conceptually. We wanted to not stray too far from how my dad did it in the original film. So we use a lot of similar sounds and instruments from the first score. But kind of updated and modernized the piano was the first sound that we used because that's kind of the main focus of the peace. I'm Daniel Davies something that John pointed out early on that the purity of that Pia knows what makes it scary. And it was important to keep that. The piano from the new movie is clearer brighter than the old sound you need to have that panel crisp clear up front and pure. So that everything else can surrounded and be the terrifying. Bizarre elements of the peace. Daniel brought over a couple of synthesizers that which from. There are so many since now that can come close to those original sounds. The over Heim OBI six. Part
The New Halloween Movie Is Great. And You Don't Have To Watch the 10 Other Movies To Enjoy It.
"Michael Myers is back. David Gordon green is behind the wheel while the Halloween franchise has gone through many sequels and remakes. This one seems to be special due to its talented team behind the camera and an endorsement from John carpenter himself who owns an executive producer credit on the film to seal including seventy. Think of it, they say, skip it. Yeah. Yeah, but they haven't seen the other ones. So you know, I, I feel by his word. Jimmy Lee. Curtis also an executive producer credit in his back playing Laurie strode as she comes to her final confrontation yet. Right final come on. It's never the final with the aforementioned Myers, a masked figure who has haunted her since she narrowly escaped his killing spree on Halloween night for decades ago. The film premiered at tiff last month to extremely positive reactions, and it's one of the most intimidated films of the year for a lot of people. I'm going to be going on Friday night. Actually. It's going to be spooky and hopefully a lot of fun. I just watched the original and now forget all the other sequels. This one is a direct sequel