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"john bradshaw" Discussed on The Oprah Winfrey Show: The Podcast

The Oprah Winfrey Show: The Podcast

09:41 min | 7 months ago

"john bradshaw" Discussed on The Oprah Winfrey Show: The Podcast

"Taught me early that love hurts and therefore as long as my wife continue to cook clean beat me. I'm GonNa always be there because sharing is caring and love hurts. I learned early and I think that's a real good lesson but I don't think it only hurts and I don't believe that beating children is an act of love. I don't believe that well of course it feels good sometime to John. Yeah I mean I want to say well look if it hurts you more than me. Let me do it to you and I sure don't want you to hurt here but I think that the point is good. That look if love was easy. We'd all have it. It's not easy and that's another thing that we've got to learn that it's GonNa time it's going to take attention it's GonNa take effort is GonNa take commitment. It's going to be a decision much. More than a feeling in love is a feeling love is a decision and I think. That's a real important distinction. Now if you grow up in a family and you can never have your own will then. How can you make a decision? Because you've never been allowed to make a decision so when you're in your fault self you're just a robot acting out a roll of fault cell. So in love is feeling love itself as a decision absolutely at least that's a major distinction as I said earlier. You speak a lot about soulful love. How do we begin to find that? Well I call soul. Whatever is most human? Ns like soul music soul food. Soulful love is when we're being the most human being human means imperfect limited not having unrealistic expectations. The wounded child wants the unconditional love of mother. But I can't expect that of my wife or my spouse or the person I'm in a relationship with adults have conditional love that is we contract. I love you you love me. The child expects unconditional love so when people get married they start making demands. You never can't you ever and I always and you never and you hear children just screaming at each other to very deprived. Children screaming for the developmental needs that they didn't get. That's what's so interesting about marriage if you don't understand how marriage works out really works because you pick as you say in your book as a number of people have written about this also that you pick the person who has the traits of your parents and most of the negative traits of your parents. So it's like two four year olds coming together. I draw little pictures a big people and little people and there's a contract between the big people I will love you forever and the kids are going. Oh Boy oh boy. You're my father. You're going to be the father I never had. You're going to be the mother I never had. It's an unrealistic expectation. So what's going on in your marriage? Well we're separated in trying darndest to work it out. We were married. We've been married for two and a half years when we were married. We brought our childhoods into our marriage not knowing what they were and it exploded interface. Someone told me I'd marry someone just like my dad and I did. I did most people do though. That's the mystification that were walking around in a kind of a trance. Forgive you know first thing to do is forgive yourselves? You did the best you could. Second thing is you're responsible for your wound. And he's responsible for his wound if you try to make him take care of your wound and he tries to make you take care of his wound it work. Then you're back in the source relationships for example I have engulfing issues with women because my mother more or less engulfed me. So what happens when I start getting too close? I want out of there okay but I always find women who have abandonment issues. You get this so the second. I'm getting out of there. They're going crazy over here now. What I've learned and what I'm creating in a relationship is that I'd take responsibility for my wound right. I'll say look. I'm in my wound right now. Are She might say. I'M IN MY WOUND. And then we negotiate. But I don't try to take care of her wound or else. I'm back in my source relationship Sam back trying to make my mom happy and that so interesting. Don't you think this interesting? Because that's what people marry for a married Mary. Because you want that person to take care of your rulings. And the person never can take care of your. Whoa now. They can't do it because you would have to be a child again and they would have to be your parent absolutely. Does it ever work? Well it works if two people you know like I say we have to grow up. We have to embrace our loneliness. I am responsible for my wound. I can't blame that on my mother or anybody else. I need to fix it. I need to grow up. That's you know that's the issue. When I'm willing to do that I can say look. I'm this is about me and my history. It's not about you. I'm feeling overwhelmed right now. I need a day by myself and two people can contract that and work it out. But isn't the problem in a lot of marriages that the person thinks the other person is causing their problem that they don't relate the problem that's going on in the marriage to whatever happened with the wound. Think the spouse is the one who's creating the problem for them absolutely. I think if you're never getting your own needs met if you're angry all the time are you're depressed all the time that somehow love causes both of you to grow. And if you're not growing you're not expanding then call it something else but I wouldn't call it love. The other piece of it is is that I've been very critical of people in my relationship because what I learned in my shame was all or nothing I tried to be more than human perfect judgmental critical are less than human. Just be a SLOB. I just go back and forth between the two. Somehow the love is based on healthy. Shame what's healthy. Shame I make mistakes. I'm limited. I'm not God that I'm human and the person I'm with her I'm GonNa find the pantyhose all wadded up in the corner. It is going to be the you know the mother Theresa and I've gotTa get it that to be. Human is to be fallible to make mistakes and that. I really accept that in my partner. I accept their idiosyncrasies and their bills. Okay except my so as you were saying that about marriages and how you have to fix your own wounds. The question is. Are you both willing to do that? I can speak for myself. I've I'm in a program right now. We're kind of redefining. What I am myself learning about all the things that happened in the past with my my parents and I think only by route redefining what I am. Will we have a chance to work together? Redefining and then taking responsibility for yourself. Exactly I really support you in. That really sounds good. Both of you. Yes you wanted to say what I've been doing. A lot of work on the inner child work and learning to love my inner child. And what I'm having a problem with is the fact that when I was young I learned that the only person I could trust was myself I had to find my own survival skills to get through life. How do I get rid of those and that person because that person got me through it? Sure well you see. There's sort of two extremes one is that you just get totally absorbed and enmeshed you become confused with the people you're with the other. Is You isolate? Put a wall around you. Say I don't need anybody I can make it and what you're describing is more that second one so it's once again you're GONNA have to risk coming out. You're going to have to risk letting go of your own self sufficiency and learn to rely on somebody. I mean it's been one of hardest things for me to let somebody take care of me because it's scary to me. You've been the caretaker. Caretaker feels too vulnerable but like in my workshops. Now I have a guy that takes care of me. I just take the brakes and see. I've found that by letting someone else in like that. I'm really making contact that I've never made before and letting the person I love. Take Care of me at times and not always being see. Caretakers are always in control. That's another thing to remember that one of the cover ups for toxic. Shame is to control everybody. Then you can never catch me off guard then I can never be exposed so so real. Soulful love means equality that each one of us are willing to give up control. I had a point in a relationship where my the lady I said you go to therapy with me and I went out just a minute. I'm in my head I did this. I'm not going to your Mickey Mouse. Therapy hit all this. I went and it was the best thing I could have possibly done. Because it was a symbolic act of giving up control. If you will like to just read for the closing here what you say in the beginning of the book you say Love Yourself or creating your trans love yourself for being willing to see how you created it and how you may still be creating it. You can stop doing it now. The danger has passed. You saved a child from dying. You saved yourself love yourself now for the hope that you have. You wouldn't be working on yourself if you didn't have hope thank you much. I'm Oprah Winfrey and you've been listening to the Oprah Winfrey. Show the podcast if you haven't yet go to apple podcasts. And subscribe to rate and review. This podcast join me next week. For another Oprah show the podcast. I thank you for listening..

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"john bradshaw" Discussed on The Oprah Winfrey Show: The Podcast

The Oprah Winfrey Show: The Podcast

10:23 min | 7 months ago

"john bradshaw" Discussed on The Oprah Winfrey Show: The Podcast

"And just take whatever you get and just imagine that you. Now you're gonNA walk away from there and as you walk away you you tell the child inside of you you see. Your mother is really just a little girl. She was just a wound a little girl and a lot of ways. That doesn't condone what she did. But it may help you to have compassion for her. She was just a little girl. She wasn't a goddess. She did the best that little girl could do in the light of her history. Now just imagine. Just imagine that. Somehow you've heard a phone call. You've gotten the news that your mother your grownup mother is dying. And that you've got to hurry to get there and that you're getting there and you're walking into the room and you can see her laying there on her deathbed and as you look at her. You see the eyes of that child looking up at you and as you see the eyes of that child here that child say I'm so so sorry for the ways that I hurt you and tell her. Tell her you forgive her. If you can do that I forgive you mother. I understand now you were just a wounded child and walk out of that room and you're going to feel some emptiness now as you walk out of that room and just hear the song that Richard wrote and say goodbye in your heart. Say Goodbye. Take a deep breath. Wiggle your fingers. Take another deep breath and just be backed fully restored to your consciousness so you said when you ended by saying say goodbye. What are you saying goodbye to well? It's a separation. It's a symbolic separation. And I WANNA make it very dramatic because the child makes a goddess out of mother. And that's the reason we hold on to the belief about love that mother had we get a meshed with her and we carry without question that belief so i WanNa make this very dramatic for you like people say well. Why do you have to have her? On her deathbed this is not the flesh and blood mother. By the way that we're talking about here it's the fantasy that we've created of mother as goddess and Abuse Child will will take a parent and make them into a good parent because they need a parent so badly. And so what we want to do as D- mythologies mom and dad and just see them as human. That's what we're trying to do. And also that until we forgive them and separate. We really can't grow up and have our own life. Yes and that is also why I see time and time again on this show. I think Women in particular do this but some men do too is that they're in adult bodies but they really are still children so attached to everything there. Mother said even though what their mothers said isn't working for them and their adult life. That's the mystification right there. It's a perfect definition of it. I mean description of it. Okay so here. I am but I'm really still a child and I'm still trying to get Mommy and daddy's love. See the other pieces that we hold onto mother and daddy as an illusion that we will not die now. That's a heavy metaphysical piece but one of the reasons and that that includes people who hate their parents like if you hate your mom and dad and resent them you've never left home. You're still bonded to them okay. What'd you want to say? I I knew from early on about three years old that this is not how it's supposed to be and So I grew up my whole life just trusting myself and it was very painful going through this process because I also in my own life know that as a mother. I had to forgive mistakes. I make with my children so makes it much easier to identify that. She was human and to feel her pain. And I really really felt that and explains a lot. Thank you for sharing that because see. I made mistakes with my children to all of us did because once we've we've got this false notion of love that's what we're gonNA teach our children to. I two people that talk described the multi generational pattern. I mean this goes back through hundreds of years of Patriarchy what we're really add a new consciousness in the last since. Nuremberg we've had the civil rights movement. The women's rights movement the GAY and Lesbian Rights Movement the adult child which is a movement fighting for the rights of the Child. Maria Montessori said there's no greater social problem than the oppression of children never was a person's rights anymore denied than a child. We're democracy we fight and die for democracy and yet we oppress children. Yes you wanted to say what? It was very hard for me to blame my mom as a little girl. Because she was so controlled she was so controlling trolled. No she was controlled so she tried to control me. She controlled you but he says she says she was control was also. How did she know how to love me? Yes he didn't know all exactly and that's what this exercise is far. I'm mad at you. It was hard for me to say I blame you. Because she didn't know as a little girl and then I imagined her dying and I still couldn't I could hear her saying she's all right but I'm in the point in my life right now that it's very hard for me to get hurt. Do admit that she's done something wrong. And that we need to talk. Well let me say this. Some of you who've had severe abuse you have to go through an anger stage. You may not be able to get in the chapter that I do this in the book. It's a whole process and you you grieve your own grief. First then you grieve your mother's grief or your father's grief at this question. Well I've been going to some of your workshops on healing the inner child and I listening to what you're saying now don't you have to go back and finally start really loving yourself before you can love anyone else? -solutely and I found that through recognizing that child inside of me is I've been a more effective parent. I've been a more effective friend. Although their child has been very resistant very good point. I mean I assume in this book that people have some knowledge of the other book embracing. My inner child was wonderful. Because it's a way to have self love and self value and I'm from from Jesus Christ Bernard of Clavo to every psychologist that's ever studied. Is We know you can't love anyone unless you love yourself and this caretaker. I give my life for you but I don't love me. I don't get my needs. Met doesn't work for me and it doesn't work for a lot of people because we don't love ourselves I loving. The inner child is a way to embrace yourself and as I love myself I can love you. Well John Batchelor is here to help us learn how to create love. That's the name of his book creating love in our lives and to improve all of our relationships whether it's with your husband your children or even your coworkers so far he has shown us how to separate ourselves from our false idea of love and the next stages well the next stage is owning ourselves like owning the inner child that I've got to embrace myself although I may have to brace confusion or emptiness I mean like when you really do that separation. You feel emptiness and it's why often we'll get out of one relationship and get into another one. As fast as we can to cover up the emptiness. Ooh And the emptiness is not bad. I mean it's it's like that's the way I can begin to get to my own feelings and my own needs to stay with the confusion. Confusion isn't bad. Creativity comes out of confusion. I mean when you know everything. You can't create anything that because you already know all the answers so if people will just stay okay. Love is not as neat and tidy as I thought. That's the first thing and I say to myself it's human as human. Tell all these people who are getting married every Saturday that Yeah Oh yeah well we should they really cause I you know you see everybody. Has this illusion that it's this great big happy happy to Dora thing and it's not and love when you're in love you're out of your mind you know. Remember that when you fall in love you're out of your mind. I mean and you go right back into infantile symbiosis cupid is a baby with an Arrow so you gaze at each other and you talk baby. Talk Okay now. It's a wonderful state. But it's only the beginning and it's really not love it's a biological bonding phenomena. And so we gotta get that and we gotta Google Stage. No it's a pre. It's a precursor to love and it's wonderful. I mean you lose weight and you comb your hair and your your say your best stuff but when you get married the boundaries bounced back in. Here comes the Hatfield mccoys. Yes one you say office as a process takes time. You wanted to say what? Yes sir. Yes John. I learned from an early stage in life as a child. That love hurts and in saying that my mother would say. I'm GonNa whip you but hurts me worse than a hurt shoe. I never understood that because I was the one getting the weapon he wanted to. But however this has been a very good therapeutic thing for me in my marriage today even an unconditional love by her. Doing that and let me know early. That love hurts but mom really loves me because all my needs are met she walks. She cleans she aren't. She made sure everything I needed. I had and that which I didn't need and want it. She said pray for so that taught me not to treat her as a goddess but to look to God from which come with my help but it has helped me today with my wife and I did have a fantasy perhaps as to what might be when you get married but the reality has come in because I can look back and look into my childhood and my mother.

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"john bradshaw" Discussed on The Oprah Winfrey Show: The Podcast

The Oprah Winfrey Show: The Podcast

06:30 min | 7 months ago

"john bradshaw" Discussed on The Oprah Winfrey Show: The Podcast

"I felt sad within myself. Can some of you identify with that? It said to me this. This definition is to one side. One of the things you say in creating love is that mystified love is when you create this whole self because whoever you were and you do this early in your childhood whoever you were wasn't good enough so you made yourself into somebody else. That would please the rest of the world your family your but that that happens. John so early that you spend so much time being that other person that after so long. That's who you think you are. That's exactly and then you think you know who you are and you don't know that you don't know who you are if you can go with that one folks. You don't know that you don't know I think I'm this good guy people pleasing caretaker and I am in public but I'm not at home at home every six months I go into a rage and I scream and Holler and I beat the table. You know somebody said you can't know a person outside of their hut you know Malaysian saying and it's that raging that love is baffling it. An evening can start out. Wonderful can end. Was somebody trying to jump out of the car. I've had that happen. It can end with the door slamming and screaming at each other ninety percent something some high percentage of domestic homicides are about lovers. I mean we kill the people we love so this is a very powerful emotion. What'd you want to ask? That's what I was wondering what you feel like you give so much all the time but yet then you get so angry after we push everybody away. That's what happened to me like I would go on vacations. I'd have these wonderful vacations for the family but I would suddenly go into a pout and they'd say what's the matter and I wouldn't know what was the matter I'd say nothing nothing matter but I wouldn't talk to anybody and what it about is that I wasn't getting my needs met now. If it's love both of you are going to get your needs. Met My belief. Is that one of you. Just be sacrificing everything. Louis suffering long-suffering. Sassy that's what's very interesting to me about a lot of these definitions if you've lived your whole life giving giving giving giving you in many ways. I think a lot of people don't even think they deserve to get anything in return absolutely and so they become content and called that contentment happiness. Because that's what's comfortable to them and what you grow up with. You think is normal. Yes what if you grew up in never got love never had loving your whole life and felt abandoned and when you got married and had kids you do the same thing to those kids. Well you see. The problem of mystification is that we reenacted either due to our children. We're done to us are just the opposite like like I tended not to put any structure with my kids because I didn't want him to go through the pain I went through but just the opposite is not good either create. There is polarized. And what I'm going to suggest is that soulful love is paradoxical and polarity that. It's never all or nothing it's always both and and it's never always giving up everything myself. I mean we've got multi generations of women that were treated as second guy citizens. The beating of women and children is an ancient and pervasive tradition. Not just the physical beating but also the emotional beating and this is coming from Patriarchy which is that power of one person over everybody else and you must be obedient and that's what's virtuous and repress all emotions except fear and crush your will at an early age John Talk Salahuddin Is Creating Love About Sofa love and now what I got from. That was that you can experience love true. Really deep heartfelt soulful love on many levels with many different people during during the course of your life and that a lot of people spend their time waiting on the one big thing the one big Mr Special MS special to come into their life but you could be feeling it all the time absolutely. It's like I like we think of the the great examples of love mother Theresa Sweitzer and they are great examples. My mailman delivers the mail. Every day he's got a limb he he comes rain or shine. He brings me wonderful letters from my kids. There's no mailman hall of fame. There's no mailman baseball cards. There's no mailman cards see see. We've got this unrealistic expectation and we miss the ordinary everyday human stuff. Okay John What. What are we going to do here? Okay what we're GONNA do. I asked the audience ahead of time to write down some some ways. They felt hurt. And I suggested that they focus on your mother not because mothers the villain but because mother is the most dominant relationship and most of our lives. That may not be true of all of you if you had a step mother if you had an adopted mother it's the mother you had a relationship with and the reason. I want you to focus on the hurts as I want to do. An exercise now we tend to pick partners out of our hurts so if I didn't get unconditional love for mother. I look for a woman who will give me unconditional love but I find the woman mother. And that's the problem is that we keep picking the same kind of people. Mystified loved tens to be reenactment. We keep doing it over and over again so want to do an exercise where you separate from mother and this is very dramatic and I want it to be dramatic. I WANNA imprint on your brain of an of a dramatic because the mother that we're separating from is the one the little child in you made into a goddess this is not about your flesh and blood mother so if your flesh and blood mother is actually deceased. I want you to still do the exercise. Okay so what I'd like you to do is to start if you feel okay closing your eyes and if this is frightening to you just don't do it and anybody at home. I'd encourage you to just watch because I don't know where you are in your life with your own sort of stability or whatever so if you just close your eyes and focus for a minute on your breathing. When we grow up in very stressful families we learned to hold our breath and tighten our muscles and go into a trance. Call Sensory numbing. So we don't feel anymore so so learning to breathe. Just let yourself deep breathe. Take a deep breath. One two three four five six seven eight hold at one two three four and breathe it out one two three four five six seven.

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"john bradshaw" Discussed on KMOX News Radio 1120

KMOX News Radio 1120

09:27 min | 9 months ago

"john bradshaw" Discussed on KMOX News Radio 1120

"Back with John Bradshaw author of the animals among us and make us human we were just talking about how animals are members of the family and along with that you write quote dog and cat owners consistently overestimate their pets other human qualities and mental capacities somehow having a personal relationship with an individual animal seems to involve imbuing it with characteristics that science would restrict to our own species talk about anthropomorphic ism and animals John well I think as a rule for them is a natural way that we DO operations online steel with things that we don't understand I mean if you're not talking to each other we break the scene that we kind of our operating a brings a similar we operate from some of the base of the language we use is the same and that's a pretty good assumption of course Sir I can imagine what you're thinking you can imagine roughly what I'm thinking and that works most of the time but when it comes to animal mind to me the conical mind which is where you'll see dogs and cats suppose Connor was a breath related to models they both have a brain which is completely different to ours it's cinemania Brian and it has some structures in common the basic emotions or will let the pieces of the brain that generates our basic emotions like fear and anxiety and joy in and that happened a similar sorts of things the that'll pretty much the same not the thinking back to the brain the thing the pop that we humans kind of use all the time and probably slopes all the other bits of our brain tons of what we consciously experience is much smaller both cats and dogs in his house that simple in the Amazon Michael facts and lots of studies are being done at five more recently a particularly Doakes and MRI scanners showing that the most likely kind of world that are totally saying is one that is increasingly dominated by the press it's like almost like a kind of Zen Buddhist existence where your detached from the Boston you're not worried about the future and your existing in the moment and experiencing a very rich today and I think to the best of our knowledge and I'm sure that most improved but the best well on these matters that's kind of like a good way of thinking about a joke so does a note thinking back to something they did wrong or did something it right yesterday and they're not worrying about what's going to happen tomorrow so much as they are living in the present and reading human body language is just the thing that does a better app than humans are in many instances and certainly better than any other animal species so they are there the living in the present and I think if we assume that has some people do research on a short time to say dogs are like children in terms of the way they can they can think and so on this is a certain amount of truth in that otherwise you will be you know it would be crazy to say it but there's not enough trees I seem to make it a general rule I think it's much more constructive and much better for the dog after if we think of them as animals that have a different kind of brain on that for a different kind of subjective world to the one that we have not this is something which most owners I have to say in my experience I have to be kind of leads towards they have not realized there was no particular reason why they shouldn't but they have not realize just how different the world is a specific through the they once into the eyes of the door but of course it's really the nine this is the important organs far as it always concerned that across thirty years our eyes to the adults what is not that world the council is not they will physically of course is the sign there in the same room but the message is the tire that room is giving them giving the human under the pact are quite different and once you come to realize that I think Dan stripping away some of the on to move his arm is is beneficial to the animal and to the to the end of because they're you know that they've been on some general down when on stands and about your as well well it builds the bones and that's so true I want you to talk about a guy named ends one because he tried various pickup lines with women in a park with and without a dog talk about what we learned from this young man well that's wrong as his name implies is French and I don't think it's any coincidence that the study was done in France perhaps you know you're leaving the humor sites yeah he was he was able to get more telephone numbers from young ladies he approached we're going to have to deal with and then when he didn't have to talk I'm not taking on a certain month month seems like a rather trivial study but their dental sorts of backup studies done in all sorts of different ways people standing on street corners and and recordings people spontaneously coming up to them people searching out fake profiles on internet dating sites which were which are identical except one of them has inside the the the the particular one of the particular trials the man who is seeking contact swallows basically the his description was not particularly pleasant sound like a rather selfish kind of a guy but to adding the flight phrase I'm not going to dog and I love my dog to the description you know something that he's getting ten times as many which is militaries profile so there is a genuine I think robust's kind of effect where a man I'm probably women it's just the the research hasn't has really but it's been biased in favor of of women approaching man in this instance but we certainly can be sure that man I cry has some kind of trustworthiness which are which the dog just having that gives them I mean the the person has no evidence of that this person is actually telling the truth or in the case of to on I wasn't really historical and did you take off that properly all plans did you what did you know what I mean that it's not really a question of detail was there to sell their tool it's just the presence of the dog seems to make the person seem so much more approachable and trustworthy and that is a that's a very Allstate why would that animal I am descended from a wolf suddenly made people trust you and I think that goes back way back to something that the that went on before even perhaps was domestication but certainly once they were domesticated dogs because it does with the first species to be domesticated the man who was seen to be good with dogs that was used as a proxy for you know I thought man is is get is good with dogs he knows how to empathize with a dog so he put in a suburb of size with a women and be with with children and so that made that man that's a marriage prospects yeah in the chapter one of the family you write this the strength of the bond becomes most evident when a pet dies and then you write this which was fascinating in the words of one thirty year old lawyer after the death of her dog quote before he died I was so full of energy my friends were amazed how many different things I was able to accomplish in a day and now I'm exhausted and I can't even bring myself to pick up my son from nursery school so I leave them there and his teacher takes him to her home to stay with her for a few nights talk about animals and death well one of the unfortunate fact of rights keeping is that they have much shorter lifespans and we do so you're having a pet Donnie something that almost every concern will experience so you it's probably not surprising that given that we do value the companionship of these animals are strongly that some people become grief stricken almost literally as an example you just quoted at at the loss of the animal the loss of the company the change in routine I mean it it's very similar to the to the loss of a place human family member there are some key differences that route one of them is that it the studies are showing that it doesn't it can be just as a cute but it doesn't usually lost quite as long as some some people will go and grieving for the loss of human met family members particular yes I suspect parents but even worse if if somebody's child dies before they do I think the the grief could be extremely not just extremely deep at extremely low income lost the whole rest of that person's life Greece offense is not quite like that some people say I could it will say the time or maybe even a month SO two lights on account I couldn't possibly ever replace him are you know a huge she was so unique don't go cats and will never be another one like that but then maybe a year later you find that you know they have they been to the shelter and and taken another don't grow the cast or whatever hi I'm having recovered from Greece and everything you know we don't do that with with humans we do not to liberty city guides surrogate relationships replacement relationships for the ones that we had with people who died we regard those people as being possibly new unique I think I'm a replaceable where is with pets well let me do regarding missed personalities and having rights of their eye and we I think there is a some sort of blurring that as well we do also regard them as being pastas as a joke hi or capsules of it it would happen to be and therefore eventually once the initial shock of losing animals gone and then we can moved on and and replace them and when we come back the final installment of our conversation with John Bradshaw.

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"john bradshaw" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

04:48 min | 1 year ago

"john bradshaw" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

"Because people can't relate to him being from Texas. Interesting question here from Tim spears, what impacted the Bush presidency have on the JBL character. Well, we cover that in the show, and that I actually a lot. We would take a lot of the nuances and mannerisms. That President Bush would would do he would come out make a speech, for example, when when field wore the jacket he wore that was based on something that Bush was wearing at the time. So a little bit. Yes. Partout of. Tim's question is when Bradshaw becomes JBL. It's the first time he's not presented as a bad ass. How does vulnerability healthcare Akhter tremendously? Because if you just beat everybody up, how do I ever relate to your feel sorry for you? I is a baby face want somebody that I can help route onto win. And as a heel. I want to get his ass kicked. Wideband can jump asked the JV ever helping the boys out with their finances. Yes. Quite a few. Jamie wants to know which persona is more like the real outside of wrestling. John Charles life field, APA, Brancheau or JBL. They're both as close as you're going to get JBL probably a little bit more. So. But well, he's not running around with weird shit painted on his chest and real right, right? But I think, you know, the the real John les field is highly intelligent, very, intellectual brilliant mind for finances. Classic wrestling polls rights who would have won an shoot fi JBL her Bob Holly. Hollywood kill him. Sam get text on that want to Roger Horton wants to know was JV. Oh, really bully that we hear about whenever his name is mentioned. It's hard to believe that if he was some of the other wrestlers never put him in his place it again, I I don't I don't subscribe to that at all that he was a bully was he allowed mouth, and we'll abrupt and all that shit. Absolutely. But no. Nason wants to know who would JBL say was tougher him or Ron Simmons. Ron Simmons all day long twice on Sunday. TR to wants to know what kept John loyal to WWE. Why did we never see him TNA or anywhere else? Is ways brought up man. He's loyal guy. And that's just who he is. Colin wants to know JBL ever received heat from anyone for stiffening them with the clothesline from hell because that theme always looked brutal. I think the clothesline is really not that brutal. It looks brutal. Which is gin shows you how get a worker he is. But I don't know that anybody ever really complaining about it. You told us before the right way to take an ADT. What's the right way to close clothesline from hill? Oh. Abruptly? Brandin wants to know who were John's closest friends quote in the business, probably Ronson, Ron Simmons. Definitely. And then from there godfather taker out hope I throw myself in there, I'm glad you mentioned taker Jeff Watson at a JBL ever have to go to wrestler's court. JBL was officer wrestler scores. So he's like sergeant at arms the bailiff, right? Yeah. Okay. Amar Burton writes, we've all heard amongst the the hardy boys that Matt was the quote, unquote, brains of the operation terms of creative input indirection did the APA have that kind of dynamic, and if so who was in charge or ran lead on more creative elements. John was probably more creative. John would always defer to Ron. Garrett wants to know how much was real money. And how much was fake money? Wrestlemania twenty one where the money was coming down from the ceiling. All real money. Wait a minute wrestlemainia Twenty-one. Was that the Bradshaw bills Bradshaw? Bills is fake. But we did. Those were Bradshaw bills. So how much how much real money? Do you think you spent on your fake money? I have no idea when we when we drop money from from we always dropped real money. Lots of it. Except what his Bradshaw bills. Sure, Aaron Watson. This is fun question. What part do you think?.

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"john bradshaw" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

03:45 min | 1 year ago

"john bradshaw" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

"All and. Thank god. We finally got it off over. Remind everybody how you got it off over boogeyman ate it. No mercy. We see a JBL matched with Ray mysterious. JBL then starts a feud with boogeyman culminates in a match between the two the row rumble. Buggy man wins. Can't believe this is real at the next pay per view. B O beat Bobby Lashley. No way out. And then on the February twenty fourth episode of smackdown. This is in two thousand six AB L suffers a broken hand. The hands of Crispin Wong six man tag team match and the website announces that. He's undergone successful surgery and that sets up a rematch or JBL gets a win over Christmas. Wrestlemainia to win the first United States championship. So calm cool deal here. The April twenty first episode of smackdown. JBL fires Jillian hall due to a mistake. She made during the JBL been wa- steel cage match from the week before. Specifically, she did put together the appropriate celebration for him on may twenty third. Bobby Lashley wins the United States title. And then JBL goes to smackdown. GM teddy long telling long he wants a rematch with Ray mysterious for the world title. And if he loses he'll quit. And when he does lose a crowd at the arena began to sing very familiar song. Nah. Good. Tell us what's going on here. He's the injuries are just stacking up. And he goes it goes back to the the Batista bomb on the steps and that was the beginning of back injury. And it was a nagging back injury getting conflicting reports from different doctors at different times. So one doctor told you know, let's do a little treatment here contraction do some different things to give him time to heal. And that was that was thinking that point. And also there were doctors telling him you can never Russell again. Are you shouldn't Russell again? So you know, every fighter has one last fight in type thing, they don't wanna hear that. So you do what you have to do to to get in. But at that time that was the back injury. Well, he later said he didn't have a formal contract with long going into the match. So he had no intention of leaving smackdown. But it's a story line way to give him a chance to heal up. And then your TASR as the smackdown color commentator on the June sixteenth episode chat me up why has out wise JBL n whose idea was that. How did it come to be? I think that was was that during the time that has his contract was up that may have been it just that. Tasr contract was coming up and Henry nude and look for something for John to save. He could work in color commentator. I think that was it at the time. Let's keep it moving here. A new wanna talk about something that he wrote JBL said in a commentary on the street dot com. He was retiring from entering competition for good and his final column on the website JBL wrote..

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"john bradshaw" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

03:56 min | 1 year ago

"john bradshaw" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

"So many turned around and JBL put a shirt over his head like a hockey pints and started throwing lava rounds Meinie says he tried to grab a headlock stop the punches. And they ended up getting separated says when they got backstage JBL came over and said that he was talking about him on the internet and Meany said he thinks abo was referring to when he was released in two thousand he called JBL bully JBL in an interview with WW dot com after that said the incident with Meinie had nothing to do with any old heat. I don't even know the guy couldn't care less about the fat little kid. On the July fourth smackdown. Meinie would pin. JBL after Batista interfered during the match Stevie Richards, hit JBL hard as a motherfucker in the head with a chair. And an interview afterwards. Richard said JBL had a coming. This is an incident that got a lot of attention online. And a lot of people thought the smack nans here shot was retribution. But boy what a fucking weird twisted web. This was you weren't there. You had the night off. But she certainly heard about it was the consensus that JBL just maybe drank too much in the balcony and let it go to four or what's what's what's the thinking in the office. Well, not only was that out there that night. It wasn't there for the subsequent TV's afterwards. So I'd had that whole week off. So by the time that I even got back. It was a non issue everything kind of blown over but the scuttle, but I guess the rumor and innuendo was basically they got in there. John got hit from behind turn around thought Meniat sucker punched him. So he fucking went after Meany how any of that happened. Don't know don't care. It was brutal after saying Mienies gashes afterwards. And apparently had been busted open by San man, a couple of days before and had a nice fresh wound there as well. So not cool in any way. You look at it. And it just it ain't fucking ballet. But I do remember seeing the chair shot like I n even going back to this day. I think I saw that that whole fight scene with JBL and Meany maybe one time just in. In watching the show over and I do remember the chair shot with Manian. I remember John coming back, and and be totally cool with it like, okay next, but shit happens. I think that the the median everybody else would blow more out of proportion than the participants will and I think J L Mesnier cool to this day. But again, misunderstandings, people say shit do shit and should happen. Sometimes man, it's life. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, listen, I'm glad that you know, everybody's on good terms now, and everybody's sort of kissed and made up. But wouldn't you if you were on the outside, and you refine, and you're seeing all this and hearing all this wouldn't it be easy to understand sorta get with the narrative that? Maybe the stabile a bully in real life. Not if I don't know. Again, you know, having been part of you know, rumor innuendo perception in speculation things. It's just simply aren't true. When people will give their perception of me or safe things about me that have never met me that have never spent thirty seconds even saying Hello to me. Or maybe they did say Hello to me for five seconds. When I was in the middle of something else..

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"john bradshaw" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

02:33 min | 1 year ago

"john bradshaw" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

"Let's fast forward a little bit too EC ws one night stand and this is not going to be comfortable for use while policy is in advance. But there's no way to tell the story without just telling the story JBL and other smackdown. Wrestlers come onto the balcony to watch the CW one night stand show, and this is in the middle show, the cut a promo course the biggest of which being from JBL during Paul Heyman's promo. He tells JBL that he's the he's only champion because triple h didn't wanna work on Tuesdays. And at the end of the show, there's a big brawl in the ring between EC w w guys and during it j. L legitimately muss up his face. And there's a lot of heat on JBL. After this way killer would ride the locker room sentiment seem decidedly anti JBL, quote, JBL za, dick, and he has a huge ego. A lot of people backstage enjoyed Paul putting him in his place during his promo and another AC w wrestler says what the fuck do you prove beating up Balu Meany and JBL accompanied by Orlando Jordan did step onto the bus after the event and told at large group of CW wrestlers that he loved the show and really appreciated. What they did some thought it was a gesture but other saw JBL trying to say face and any case JBL was consistent and saying the absolutely love the event, and it was his first e CW show ever. Before we talk about what happened. I want to read you what blew me wrote on his my space. It is two thousand five after all when this happens. It's no secret that Bradshaw. Never liked me for my first day in the to my last and maniac. Also shares that during the skirmish JBL is yelling at him about things being said about him on the internet and mainly claimed his unflattering words at all been part of the show. I mean, he said in recent years that he thinks he got heat because he was on a flight and sitting first class while the rest of the guys in the back, and he was told if it's ever happens again, give your seat to event and Meinie said, he honestly didn't know to do that. And he says he didn't know this punch was coming. But he saw JBL staring at him during the staredown. And he's two nights before at the hardcore. Homecoming he was hitting the head by saying man, and he had to get eight Staples in the back of his head. And he said the first time JBL hit him. He hit him, right? Where he out the Staples..

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"john bradshaw" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

01:56 min | 1 year ago

"john bradshaw" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

"From take taker and then take your jokes lambs the little person dressed as. Him as JBL Jordan fled. Chebbi up here a little undertaker. This is Larry. Yeah. It was only half dead. Is this Vince McMahon's idea feels like Vince McMahon idea? I honestly do not remember. I think it was combination of of John take kinda think you know, what what asshole. Ian. Thank can we do here. And we had never done a miniature taker before I really need to find that guy. I've got an idea I got a booking for him. Jordan comes JBL chief of staff, some would say, if you're recreating the million dollar man character in a way with JBL that maybe Jordan is JV yells Virgil. Thinking here. Now, we created entire staff in you know, the other thing that people kinda got lost on is while we've throw out JR Ewing. Also at the time a lot of the mannerisms a lot of the stuff was very presidential. We were we were mimicking a lot of the stuff from George Bush at the time in dressing like Bush in different things trying to. Without being political. But just try to steal some of those mannerisms and nuances throughout this whole promotion. JV L beat the undertaker and seventeen minutes and thirty eight seconds to retain the heavyweight title, Jordan..

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"john bradshaw" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

04:57 min | 1 year ago

"john bradshaw" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

"If you forgot to bring your packet just show him what it can do and he will sign that for you as well. Okay. The gas bond themselves in the two thousand four Royal rumble Bradshaw comes in number five. He's eliminated by Crispin wa branch house back on house shows very rarely on TV. But somehow finds himself in a match wrestlemainia twenty it's Ricky she and Scotty to Hoti beating the bathrooms and Charlie Haas and Shelton Benjamin on the APA and not too terribly long after that it's time for a pivot March eighteenth on smackdown. They lose a tag team, you're fired match to the tag champs for key sheet and Scotty to haughty in general manager Paul Heyman. Frustrated by insult from the PA toll for route. If he did not win that tag match your fired. Of course, they lose the match and then afterwards, Brad. Schol leads fruit back, the Heyman's office and say they had not been fired. But instead they've resigned and Heyman clears up the misunderstanding and points out that they didn't win the titles. So you're fired. And WBF management dairy management has a lot a lot of potential in branch shell and that's all straight from Paul Heyman as journal manager character. So we fired for Ruch. Bradshaw has high hopes, and I think for route assumed that. Bradshaw's go still quit, but Bradshaw hesitating and for route takes us hesitation to mean that he would not resign. So he promptly disbanded the PA and leaves and this affectively Terge branch Shaw. He'll what are you remember about this? Well, we had gotten to we draft stuff all these different things. But looking at somebody talent that were injured, and we had to have someone step up. We really needed talent. We we had to change some of the things we were doing and create new stars. Ron was unfortunately, it just was. Not working with Ron it's time. And so they told Ron, you know, maybe we'll do something with as an agent Ron really wasn't interested in that. And in Ron was let go, but John the character would John. During this time, he was working with I believe MSNBC doing a lot of guest appearances his book, the financial book was flying off shells. And he's appearing on all of these television shows is John les field. Articulate, great advice, and people are clamoring to have them as guests on their financial shows. While we're thinking of an ideas like will shit. He's already doing this. What if we just put a spin on it and made him a heel, add let him be again, this one more tempt? And I remember Vince is saying this one doesn't work then, you know, it's not gonna happen for John. Let's make one last attempt with this Wall Street character kinda like Michael Douglas played whose real asshole. And make one last attempt in Vince gave the come to Jesus meeting, John if this doesn't work, then, you know, we got nothing for you. John took it and ran with it and the JBL character was born. But it was met with a lot of skepticism because people thought will shit, you know, how many times are you going to go to the well with this guy in Vince just had the confidence and the wherewithal the staying power say fuck it. I'm gonna do this. And we're gonna make it work and John did his part by in his ass doing everything he could to make this character work, and we finally found a way to get the guy. In the backstage on camera in that was Shabyah L. When you guys. Keller would ri- Bradshaw was professional when informed of the company decision to release his tag team partner. WB has big plans for Bradshaw as a singles wrestler, and it's one source says Brancheau happy enough with where his character is headed that losing his tag partner wasn't a major concern. You were probably familiar with the circumstance when you sit him down and say, so hey, listen, we're letting wrong go here's what.

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"john bradshaw" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

04:05 min | 1 year ago

"john bradshaw" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

"APA is broken up during the draft Rancho goes to raw for route goes to smackdown. Why was it decided to split them up win? Did they know they were being split up highly feel about it? Will they didn't like it? First of all because both guys felt they were better team. But again, it was explained to John this is an opportunity John to try to have a singles career if we're going to do anything, let's do something. But they did know until it actually happened that night, and it was an opportunity to try something new try something new with Ron try something new with John and see if it works. The only way you're gonna nose to try it and see what happens. April fifteenth raw branch show and Steve Austin would team up to take on Scott hall XBox in the undertaker holy shit. From teaming with Ron Simmons to stone cold Steve Austin, and it happened in like three weeks. He's got to be pretty happy with the split now. Right. He was but I still think there was a little bit. Lack of confidence. I think that's best way to best way to explain it. As far as does he fit in here? He wanted to he really wanted to be in that top picture. And sometimes it's just think it was a half step behind that people notice in the look when you looked at that pictures, like, okay, you know, which two guys really don't fit in here. I think it was it was John and XBox in that in that big thing. So it was but again, we were trying mad get him out put him with Austin and John's natural personality is well natural personality is a baby face. But I think he comes crosses fucking heal. Well, no doubt about that April twenty first two thousand two in Kansas City is backlash. He's got a singles match with Scott hall. But Scott hall gets the win. It feels a little stop and start. But I get at least he's figured in. With the top guy. He starts to bounce around with the hardcore title. He winds up winning eighteen times in this era. Most of those winds happening on house shows, and when he's the champ he renames at the Texas hardcore title, which is pretty fun. We did a whole show on the hardcore title belt and that entire run. So check it out in the archives. Something wrestle dot com. September two. He would suffer a torn left boss up and how show that keeps him out of action for six months. Are you are you guys boys here September of two or y'all communicating while he's on hiatus? Yeah. It's just I kept in touch with and make sure he was doing all right and see how is rehab was going torn biceps sex, and that's one of those. But I, you know, give them call every month. Make sure that to let him know we're still thinking about him and just get a progress report. Let's talk a little bit about when they come back because when he's back he comes back in March of oh three and he reforms the APA, and he's working a lot of matches in Lovie w and then wads up eventually on smackdown. They return on June nineteenth two thousand three to assist. The undertaker in an ambush from the FBI who likes the idea putting the APA back together and put him on swag. Now been stead because he felt that they were best when they were together that the APA that Ron and in John kind of floundered in singles up into this point. And that the only time that we were missing some of that creative in the entertaining aspect. On smackdown. So the idea was let's bring him back, and let's get some more of that entertainment value from the APA make them a team,.

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"john bradshaw" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

04:24 min | 1 year ago

"john bradshaw" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

"Because Dallas was Dallas Dallas hell of a worker and canyon, man. Kenya was hard touching. The ring. He was one hell of a great worker. So they enjoyed those times because you could actually have batches with them. The summer, slam two thousand one pay per view. We've got the Dudley's and test baiting spike Dudley in APA. Nick, Patrick is your referee the two and three quarter stars. Shane McMahon is involved here. It's okay. But sort of is what it is. But it is sort of the end of an era for a little bit because for route takes a high dose and Bradshaw starts to work. Singles again at this point is just banged up. Or why did he need to take some time off? Yeah. Ron needed needed some rest, shoulders knees back everything was hurting autumn and ranches needed arrest. And sometimes you gotta just let them go and go he'll up if he needed a surgeries, and I don't think he need surgery. He just needs some time off the road to recoup. Its it's interesting though, because normally when one of the TAC partners goes down, they try to pull both partners offer film, just fill Tom for the guys still healthy. But instead you try something in here on the twenty second raw Bradshaw beats hurricane to win the European title. So at this point he's been in the company for like five years, and this is first singles, title, and it happens. When his partner is injured. Guess we're clearly trying something here. Just see, you know, Vince, always in back of his head thought looked Bradshaw thought we've got a single competitor. Here we have a single attraction. So. That's he would always try to do that with Ron bean out for little while why not do something with Bradshaw. See what we have? I think John was lost. At that point. I really do. The this period is career a. Was it confident as a singles, competitor my opinion. So let's talk about the European title ten days after wins. It he drops to Christian on smackdown. Do you think that you were trying something and you'll also confidence in him? Or is it more? We wanted Christian to be too big for the bell, not hurricane. Yes. The latter part. We want Christian to to win the championship not necessarily from hurricane. And it was changes at transitional say that three times championship run form short sweet. Now, let's get to the no way out pay per view. February two thousand two APA wins. The tag team turmoil match for a shot at wrestlemainia. They'd be like Scotty to haughty and Albert cushion a Lance storm, the hardy boys the Dudley's billion Chuck crabs not super into it. Mash, okay, got star in a half skip to wrestle any eighteen billion shock, retaining the tag titles in a form four way elimination match over the Hardy's, the Dudley's and the APA. This is not nearly the wrestlemainia match the people want from the Hardee's and the Dudley's is it. Well, it was a departure from what they had done the previous year. That's for sure. But I thought that the match was pretty damn good. They all beat the shit out of each other. The audience though, was expecting that whole table ladder and chairs that they had gotten the year before and they'd seen so much that at some point you have to bring it back. So that you can go, you know, go back to some of those things because otherwise, it's just tough to recover. And I've watched his match recently. It was a damn good match. They beat the shit out of each other. It was good. Okay. So you know, it's coming. March twenty fifth two thousand to the APA is broken up during the draft Rancho goes to raw for route goes to smackdown. Why was it decided to split them up win? Did they know they were being split up highly feel about it? Will they didn't like it? First of all because both guys felt they were better team..

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"john bradshaw" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

04:52 min | 1 year ago

"john bradshaw" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

"Even though that didn't wrestle together. He's with him all the time. And then with Barry Windham. And now we're trying to kin with Ron Simmons wad. Why did it work better with ROY than anybody else chemistry? Probably and. I think that Jon had chemistry with Dutch mantel to, but it was different type of chemistry. Ron John travelled together. They hung together. They did everything together they trained together. So there was some really really good chemistry there. It was an opportunity for Ron to get rejuvenated with a young partner, and it was an opportunity for Bradshaw to have credibility with the season partner of Ron Simmons. Sometimes man, you just put them together. And you've got magic in. This instance, you had magic where they. They weren't putting on. They just were who they were. And it wasn't. It wasn't a stretch gimmick where they had to portray somebody else. Let's keep it moving here. These January thirty first episode of raw this is two thousand the main street posse asked the acolytes to protect them, which they refused to do until the posse agrees to pay him. And when they do Bradshaw starts the APA the acolytes protection agency, they essentially become bodyguards for higher. Pretty good idea. What can you tell us about this? How does it come to be? And let's talk about the creative of they're always backstage playing cards and drinking beer, and then the cutout doorway, which is fucking hilarious. Well, this started during the whole Chris Chris ski, Ron and Christie key. And Brian words, Tommy blanquita doing lot of the creative at that time. And this was an example, some of the fun off the wall things to take these characters they were evil, you know, body pain all other bullshit onto the ministry of darkness. Now, takers on doing other things. How do you then? Move on with the a PA and this well at the acolytes you become the APA protection agency. And in the beginning. I don't even know that anyone thought that it would go beyond one or two shows with the. Mainstreet posse asking for protection. But then it became they became so good backstage with the door there. And I want to say that might have even been Mick Foley's idea with the doors shit, but it all worked it all came together that those vignettes became iconic and made that tag team now, I could relate to them. Now, I like them, and you got to see him in a different light other than just couple ass kickers in the ring. The new age outlaws get a win over the acolytes to retain the tag titles at the Royal rumble two thousand and two minutes and thirty five seconds. Why was the match so short? I have no idea she had probably just because we didn't have a lot of time at the rumble, and we're looking at the damn show going well thought get out there get go in and get out. So it just probably a million and one reasons needy more time in the show, an April of two thousand on raw the APA would protect tied during a match when they were attacked, by Buchanan and boss weigh-in, and that set up a match for backlash the insurrection pay per view saw roadlog pin Bradshaw after what else are called a lousy looking pump handle slam and big boss man and be cannon would beat the acolytes and the star in three-quarter mats. That Meltzer was say was a stiff fast paced match. Maybe talked a lot about Bill Buchanan here on the show. Good bull stores. You can share with us. Oh god. No, pull poor berry Buchanan. He was a great hand. And he was one of those guys from smokey mountain wrestling that cornet was always pushing wonderful wonderful hand, great talent. But he just was missing that personality more than anything in probably some of the best shit that he did was with John CENA is John CENA sidekick to be the rapper. And that was some fun stuff that he did. But but ball, just a a wonderful, man. Nice guy that I don't know if he was really made for the business. Well, but maybe saved.

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"john bradshaw" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

02:48 min | 1 year ago

"john bradshaw" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

"No mercy ninety nine paper view, and the finish is something that kind of got shit on in the observer, quote fruit came off, the topper for shoulder blog when pot caught him with the x factor for the pin and the finish was mistime badly enough that the crowd was flat for it. After all the months building the finish where park had finally pin. A big guy the crowd couldn't have cared less. When he did so star in a quarter. What are you remember about XBox here? Finally, getting a win over big guy, and it's just fallen flat. Sometimes does the best laid plans. And if there's one little thing off in the audiences taken out of the moment that all the work that you did before it can get lost in that one situation. But that happens that's the business. And unfortunately, I it can even happen with the best of them. So ex pop kinda got stuck with that. And it unfortunately is what it is. Let's talk about survivor series ninety nine godfather d low in the head bangers gonna win elimination mass over the Dudley's and the acolytes and the deadliest the new company at the time. We've talked a little bit about the success that public enemy had c w now they're here in the company compare and contrast that with the Dudley's how did that work with APA? Well, the Dudley's went in and the Dudley's did everything that they were asked to professionals, and they had great matches the the Dudley's APA when out beat the living shit out of each other. And they all four loved it. So the difference is dud Dudley's came in to do business in the Dudley's came in to get people over into work with guys, and they didn't have that ego. And they didn't have a problem doing what they were asked to do and APA the all four of those guys like to work tight. They liked to work snug. And that's what they did. You felt it. Yeah. I don't think anybody could argue that think everybody felt it one of those guys wrestles. Armageddon may still be feeling it. They still are. That's great lot. Lot of chiropractors know about their damage Armageddon. December twelve nineteen ninety nine the acolytes win an eight team battle Royal tag shot attack title shot at the Royal rumble. This is his best year. Nineteen ninety nine has to be his best year in the company, and it comes being a tax partner with Faruk. You know, at this point he's been saddled with a couple of different partners. Of course, that's mentality..

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"john bradshaw" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

03:53 min | 1 year ago

"john bradshaw" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

"So I'm speaking out of turn here. But I've heard that the the understanding in this brotherhood of wrestlers is that I'm looking out for your body and trust in new on. Yeah. And when one of the guys sort of goes into business for himself and beats the fuck out of another guy. That's okay. Well, when the other guys not doing what was agreed to do in the other guys is fighting to get to the point. Yeah. It is. Okay. Because at that point, it's not you know, they weren't doing what they were supposed to be doing. So they were trying to go into business for themselves them being public enemy in a PA was trying to get to the to the story that was supposed to be in that match. Okay. So what's what's what's man? Think about somebody getting the fuck out of them on a show like this. Well, I was hey, you know, what I mean, I hate to say, Johnny. I didn't really know Johnny at all other than medium few times. So I I can't tell you much about Johnny. But Ted petty to me was a standup guy in Ted was a I always liked Ted a lot. And I thought that he was always good stand up guy. They they got in their head that, you know, they couldn't do certain things didn't wanna do it. It was that was their detriment. So Vince was this was kind of done with them at that point. And the boys will take care of the boys. And at that time in the business. That's how things happen you let the dressing room police itself without management having to get involved in things pretty much usually tend to work out is the business like that anymore. I don't think so. And I think that that's just the society is not like it used to be remember doing a. Going to my kid's school one timing with the principal. And and saying that, you know, what's wrong with the kids. Today's nobody's been punched in the mouth. And boy, you would have thought that. I'd just done some bad news mother some but society kids in school. They don't go behind the supermarket and fight. And then once they do back in the old days you had a fight with somebody. It was over. Came back to school the next day. The loser had a black guy. The winner was. Okay. And you moved on that settled it whatever difference. You had whatever bullshit there was you fought it out yet winner yet. A loser next. In this society? Everybody gets a fucking trophy. Interesting. Let's keep it moving. Here. Bradshaw is going to get his first world title win. And this is a pretty cool thing may twenty fifth nineteen ninety nine other going to get a win over X pocking Kane, they become tag team champions. Ron's been every champion there was. But this is really the first taste of championship. Gold in the does Bradshaw. Gives shit one way or another. I think that they they look at it as a. Yeah. It's it's a good moment. Because shows that we're doing something with you moving on. So that's yeah. It's good. It's good to be in a story championships. Don't mean as much as long story at the championship is a story. Even better. They eventually lose those titles on July fifth on raw to the hardy, boys. Let's fast forward to fully loaded July twenty fifth nineteen ninety nine for route Bradshaw.

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"john bradshaw" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

04:26 min | 1 year ago

"john bradshaw" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

"And Meltzer, I guess we should mention Bradshaw does a promo beforehand and Meltzer would say another match with no crowd. He but damn it was stiff Bradshaw looks even less charismatic with his new haircut. And shaved and he did before once the people saw him live. They began filing out in rapid order to the bathroom. So the match was killed before it ever started Bradshaw. Offense was really stiffed. And I say that before you mainly did Kawada style. Shotgun. Larry, it's Bradshaw kicked out of Vader bomb and invader kicked out of a sick Leiria and then got clobbered boss, second one and Bradshaw got the pin after a neck. Breaker. It's amazing because even with the win Bradshaw. Still isn't going to get over Vader needed to gone on home months ago because this is ridiculous star in a half your response. Matches. Brutal. And you know, Leon was in his twilight of his career at this point. In. He wanted to put guys over on the big guys over that. He liked to and he liked John. So we did it match had no heat. Nobody cared. It was it was a force. And there was no story to it. So there was no way to care in. There wasn't enough in my opinion at the time wasn't enough development into any of the characters for John specifically, I was putting tag teams. And then when he was putting singles, it was just go be allowed now Texan without a whole lot of direction because John could talk and he was entertaining. But without something to talk about how fucking entertain can you be? And that was the issue. Just one work in wasn't wasn't getting over. So let's talk a little bit about the pivot. You guys are going to have this is the biggest win Bradshaw's career up to this point. It's near the end of the run for Vader. But it does feel like you're, you know, giving him a win, and it's on paper of you. So maybe you want to do something with them. But you've had him shave him cut his hair if like you're grabbing straws for something for him. And then somewhere, I don't know where November of ninety eight Bradshaw for route start to team up as the act Klein's. How does that come to be? How do we go from this? To the ACA lines will John good friends, Ron Simmons and too. Big bastards undertaker was forming the ministry of darkness and was thinking about having to big bodyguards in there too. Big guys to do the bidding. And if they were a part of the ministry of darkness is tag team to represent. It was faction time during that time. So the bigger in the better guys that you could have in the more of them than the better. So they were friends and also it helped that they had good chemistry, and they did have a story by being a part of the ministry during that time that was that was the reason behind it. And I'll say, yeah, you mentioned cutting his hair and this was during the time that JR went on a kick about God damn everybody. Hey, won't be rash. Gotta have long hair got long hair and all his ship JR. That was his advice everybody. Hey name. I'll get over change him cut your hair, which is good advice. Sometimes. But sometimes it's not that fucking good. You can't grow your hair back overnight. You can cut it immediately. You can cut that shit be done with it gone. But it doesn't grow back overnight. So let's have a plan. I for the guy just completely changes as fucking luck. And that's what John Don John told get haircut unbeknownst to anybody else. Really? But the acolytes put him in the team that was some that take wanted to do and John and Ron good friends, and they made a hell of a team. Yes. They did. I assume that's Vince Russo pairing fencer. So drew up the ACA lines, it was actually undertake repairing but Vince Russo had been working with the ministry darkness..

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"john bradshaw" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

03:06 min | 1 year ago

"john bradshaw" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

"When did you first meet, John, I'm mid John? The first time actually face to face when he came in to Bethlehem Pennsylvania for trial, and he'd been working in Germany coming into. The states, and he was looking for a job and called and said, why don't you come on in when you come into the states and stop by television taping? And let's take a look at you like to look to meet you we brought him in and the rest is they say is history. John was in high school got in football. And once I got into college, he not only played and Abilene Christian university, but also coached at trinity valley community college, and it's a party JBL story that I don't think it's talked about a lot at Abilene. He was a two year starter on the offense of line and named first team all Lone Star conference as a junior and senior then he entered the NFL draft. He didn't get drafted. But it did sign with the Los Angeles Raiders has an undrafted free agent. And he got released before the nineteen ninety season started after the NFL dream didn't work out. He went to the world league of American football. He started ten. In games in nineteen ninety one for the San Antonio routers and the current Dallas Cowboys coach Jason Garrett was actually the quarterback of that team. And from there he signed to hang up the cleats and get into pro wrestling, so football, certainly is I love conversation with John about wa- football didn't work out because he wasn't any good. Okay. No, his knees. And he his knee was bad. I think he had to have surgery early on a loved football and John played football. His whole life is dream was to be a professional football player. But his niece just weren't holding up and coaches were like, John, you know, it's gonna be a career of knee surgeries and not being able to hold up. John went look for different profession. Any found professional wrestling, which is sort of interesting, and I think he wound up actually being trained by always got a pretty famous trainer, and I wouldn't have put I wouldn't have connected the dots with him being from Texas. Tell everybody about it. Well, is first trainer was actually Brad Rangan 's and Brad Reagan's limpet trainer. And one of the toughest son bitches you ever want to meet on the face of the earth and Brad trained guys up in Minnesota. Brad was one of those just real tough guys under the tutelage of Vern ganja. When John started in the business. He didn't know where else to go. Someone told him. Hey Brad rankings, and he went up and learn from Brad and then got thrown from the pan. Wait, no from the whatever into the end of the pan pretty damn quick. He's thrown right into the fire fire. There you go. So after training starts wrestling with the GW f global wrestling federation, which we've talked about here on the show available now in the archives,.

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