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"john beck" Discussed on The Rich Eisen Show
"Thursday night of the draft? Roger Goodell goes to the podium and we still don't know. Who the quarterback of the Carolina Panthers first overall is going to be? I think that everybody else might not know, but I think that quarterback will know. I'm just going to reference what kind of took place with the Joe burrow situation. The Cincinnati Bengals, once they knew, it became preparation time for that quarterback. You're going to come into camp, and we're going to start preparing you now before the draft. I think that that quarterback will know and the people in that quarterbacks camp will know leading up to it because they're going to start the process of, look, instead of us doing meetings to keep asking questions about you, let's start talking ball. Okay. So then let me just do something for me here. Can you tell Stroud and tell Bryce young to tell their camps to just keep their mouth shut? I want complete total lack of knowledge. I want, but you think the Panthers will have obviously the name will be on the card, but that kid is going to be sitting in the green room, not nervous at all. I mean, to me, I would assume just because, but I mean, look, the heck if I know, you know, like I'm taking a guess because if I was in that position and I knew the week going into it that I knew who I was going to take, I would want to take that extra week because time is so limited now. Coaches have such a limited window to work with guys in the off season. There's so many restrictions. Every new CBA that happens, it's less and less time for coaches to be with the player. So, man, start the process as soon as you can. Once you know, start installing start talking ball, start learning your guy. Thanks, John. Thanks. Wrestling fans. Feel the podcast heat. Join Hall of Fame wrestlers every week sharing their stories from the past. Click this. What kind of Nash? I'm in the ring in my mind saying that's Hulk Hogan. Like Hogan's with us. And insights on what's happening now. Strictly business with Eric Bischoff, love breaking down the business of the wrestling business. Mike Molly, Jake, the snake Roberts, good old JR and more. Get into the WrestleMania spirit, just search podcast heat. Wherever you listen
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"john beck" Discussed on The Rich Eisen Show
"What that kid's really good at. That's what got him to be a great player at BYU and that's what got him to the number two draft pick in the draft. It's because of those things. And you know what? He got shaken off of his course a little bit. He got tossed off the out of the truck. And for the jet fans to be frustrated, like it's rightfully so, right? Like, it didn't work. But like I said earlier, like I'm excited for Zack's opportunity, whether it's a jet or whatnot, like he can't worry about that. That's out of his control. I do know that there's people in the building that still believe in him. I still believe in him. I know Zach still believes in himself and quite frankly, that's all that matters. Is that he fills that way about himself because we don't know how this is going to shake down. I've watched a number of players in the NFL. Land in whatever happens after those first bumps in situations that help propel them. I mean, look, I'll just use this. We brought Drew Brees in. I shouldn't say we brought drew came down to talk to our draft quarterbacks. Right. And it was awesome. Watch tape with them. Shared his experiences with him. And he talked about being benched three times. Three times in San Diego. They went and drafted Philip Rivers in the first round. While he was there. Because they had planned on, look, we might be moving on from Djibouti, Drew Brees. And he's one of the greatest ever do it, you know? And it was because of what he went through is because of the way that he had to be challenged for himself. And this just pops in my head too. Steve Young has this amazing moment with Stephen covey, the guy that wrote 7 habits of highly effective people, where he challenged Steve and said, do you want to find out how good you can be? And that was like a moment for Steve when light went off inside like, yeah, that's my ultimate goal to find out how good I can be. And I think that's for Zack in this situation. Like, no, it has not gone well, like everybody hoped, but that doesn't mean the story's written. You know, we're in chapter three. Who knows how long this book is. And for him, it's going to be go find out how good you can be. Go accept this challenge. Learn from Erin, you're going to get a great experience to be around him, just go challenge yourself and find out how good you can be. I got about two minutes left. You want to ask him a question about Doc, I know what I would ask about that. You've crushed it might be better, but he personally, John, we have these tears where we rank quarterbacks, right? You know, you have your pier one was always the braid either Rogers in my homes. And then you'd find dak. He'd always be around level tier level two tier two tier three. What does that have to do to improve to raise himself up to that tier one level and lead the cowboys to a Super Bowl? Does he have it in him? Do you believe it? Absolutely. Dak is one of my favorite guys to train because he has everything in him. He pushes himself, he holds himself to such a high standard, mentally, he's one of the best guys I've ever been around at taking any situation that could throw somebody off their game and turning it into a challenge that he accepts. He thrives in he goes after it. He's said pressure makes diamonds. I mean, he's used a lot of the lot of phrases. So I guess to put a bit of the team. This is a team sport at the end of the day. And I'm not saying that the cowboys haven't lived up to what they should be. At the end of the day, dak is always going to put a ton on himself. He's always going to look back and say, what could I have done differently? Well, the one thing he has to do differently and again, I got about 90 seconds left here. Is to stop throwing interceptions. I don't know how, I don't know how one does something like that because every interception has its own fingerprint, it's not always on the quarterback and sometimes on a coordinator, sometimes on a receiver, but how do you do that? I mean, look, they have things that they're talking about about, hey, why did this happen? What can we learn from it? Dak is not an interception prone quarterback. This last year, there were more than there have been. But that's not because that's who he is, right? He's not this guy that's taking chances that he shouldn't. I think that he's going through a process where he's going to be able to learn, why did that happen this year? Because that hasn't been his story over the course of his career. So they're going to learn from it. And look, I'm a big believer in bouncing back higher. Sometimes those moments when you have a season that goes like, ah man, we were this close. Sometimes the lessons you learn from the this close are almost there is what propels you to get over that hump. So I don't know. I'm always excited for deck because I know the type of guy that he is and yeah, there were some interceptions this last year, but like I know that dude and he's gonna come back and he's grinding already. I was just at his place like a few days ago, he's grinding and there's excitement in Dallas as there always is and there's expectations in Dallas that they're always is but he's gonna handle things the right way. John, I really appreciate the time here. I mean, this is great. I could spend the whole rest of the show with you again because I have so many other questions about this draft, but congrats on the your success, 3D QB, the private quarterback instructor John Beck right here on the rich eisen show a full third hour coming up, don't go anywhere. I do have about 90 seconds left, so I want to ask you one last question. Do you
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"john beck" Discussed on The Rich Eisen Show
"For us because TJ you heard John mention he coaches dak and Chris, you have a question for Jonathan. I have more of a macro question. Why is it so difficult to evaluate these guys? Why are half of first round quarterbacks considered bus? Like, what makes it so difficult to evaluate? Great question. Yeah, that's an awesome question. I mean, my answer is probably not going to be the perfect answer. It's just going to be based on a lot of my opinions. But what I would say is, you know, you take a quarterback that excels in college. They have reasons for why they're excelling in college. Coaches are going to do NFL coaches are going to do all they can to learn why that guy was successful. Yes. The areas that maybe he needs to improve, the weaknesses, and they're going to try to develop a guy. I think that every coach when it starts, they have a plan in place of how they're going to develop a guy. But then it's like, have you ever heard that boxing quote? I think Bill Walsh used to use it. Everybody has a plan until they've been punched in the face. Right? Like you don't know how it's going to shake down. So I think all coaches, they have like a genuine plan, and then boom, season starts. And whether it's we're going to have a veteran that's going to go first and we're going to develop the young guy or we're going to start the young guy. You have all these things that also you don't know everything about that player because you weren't in the meetings with him every day. You weren't actually the one that was out of the practice field. Like you're trying to acquire in a few months, information to help you make that decision of Dewey draft him or not. The other thing is, who knows how it's going to shake down during the season? Who knows what injuries are going to take place? Who knows the actual situation you drop that young player into? So, you know, there's windows of opportunity. There's windows of time, a coach may think I have three years to develop this quarterback. Ten games into The Rookie year. That guy's played 5 games. It's been up and down. His confidence has taken a little bit of a beating. Now the coach feels like he's on the hot seat. Something else happens. Like there's just all these factors that are out of everybody's control that really impact the development of that player. So I think the process of evaluating it's a little flawed because of how fast it has to happen. You get what January February and March and a little bit of April to determine if this guy is going to fit your organization. A lot of the teams that pick high in the draft, they're piecing together their staffs as well. They don't totally know how their staff's going to come together. That also trying to figure out what type of football team they have. What are they going to major in? What are they going to minor in? What are our strengths? If we lose key pieces, now that makes that job that much tougher on us as coaches and on a young quarterback. And so that's why I think like rich said earlier in the show, there are so many things that you just don't know how it's going to play out yet they impact a young quarterback so much. And there's a statement that floats around coaching circles. And I don't know if the media. Here's it as much, but within coaching circles, it's this league is really good at not developing at herding quarterbacks. It's far better at hurting quarterbacks than it is a helping quarterbacks. And that's why you see a large percentage of quarterbacks. It just doesn't work out for them. Well, let's get micro then on Zach Wilson, who was a guy that you coached from BYU all the way to his drafting and the jets even brought you on the roster. On the coaching staff to help you to help out with Zach, what do you say to a jet fan who was wondering what happened with Zach Wilson the last two years? Well, you know, I can't think there's anything that I can sit in this chair and say that's going to make them change what they probably have in their mouth right now, right? Like that taste, right? And Zach quite honestly, if he was sitting in this chair answering these questions, he should and would say the same thing. Like, hey, it did not go like I would have liked. Zack's extremely talented. He's very passionate. Those things will never change about the kid. I love the way he works, and I believe in that dude a lot. And I think that there's good things in store for him. And like any quarterback that has gone through tough things, there's a better version of yourself on the other side. Now, it takes some things from the organization, right? Like they still have to have faith. They still have to have some patience. I think this Aaron Rodgers situation can be great for Zack, because what would have benefited him in year one, he may be getting in year three. It would have been great to have them take Zach and have a veteran there. Just through the first part of the season, through training camp through something, but the second that Zach got there, he was like the guy. You know, and it didn't work. It didn't work like Zach hoped. It didn't work like the jets hoped. Well, why would you say that? Why didn't it work that? Oh, there's a lot of reasons. There's things that are, you know, within Zack's control and I can speak to him of just about him of some throws that he can improve on. There were times that they were throws that even he knows I got to be able to make those throws. I got to be able to do that. And that's the area that Zack can improve on. I think that there's some things that organizationally everybody's trying to make the best decision at the time. And I want it to be known. I think Robert sala is a tremendous coach. My interactions with coach Salah were awesome. And there's a lot of dudes in that building that I think are great people, great coaches. I have a ton of hope for the jets as an organization. I have friends there. And I think that there's really good things in store for them. It did not work out with Zach like they hoped, but that does not mean that it's the end of Zach Wilson. You know, what about maybe Zach Wilson end of him in New York? Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Even if Rogers, because the whole concept is, I've been talking about every single day here, and I'm a jet fan. I'm from New York. I talked to a whole bunch of people. Rogers has to come because Wilson's toast. That's the sense right now, and I'm wondering how that lands with him and how that could possibly be put back together. I'll say this. I like the challenge that Zach gets to have in his life. To have this happen. You know, we were talking about Steve Young and the things that he had to go through. If you talk to Steve, he'll talk about how those things made him stronger. My hope for Zach is that whether he's a jet or how long all that, like, let's not worry about that, right? Like for Zach Wilson as a human being as a quarterback and all of that, I believe this is a great opportunity to Zach for Zach to feel this challenge to accept it to improve on the areas of his candidates to improve on and then to just grind. To just go to just compete to let this thing like right now the excitement in New York is about Aaron Rodgers. You're bringing one of the best to ever do it. To New York. Let that be the excitement. All right, Zach, put some blinders on and just work. Just grind.
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"john beck" Discussed on The Rich Eisen Show
"Can help you with that if you come here. I mean, fully banking that to know what their defense needs to be dialed up against that guy if they face him. It's not a bad thought it would have to come from a defensive minded coach. Yeah, like that, because you only get so many, right? Like you only get you can bring 30 players to your place. You can only do so many private visits. When you're at the combine and you have your little meeting room, you have a slotted number. You know, I will say every year there are times that quarterbacks that I train, they have a visit with a certain team and I'm like, that's kind of interesting that that team is bringing you in, you know? Like, I wonder why I wasn't assuming that they were going to pick a quarterback in that spot or whatnot. You know, so I do sometimes wonder what it is. The other thing that's surprising is the teams that you assume are picking quarterbacks that don't bring some quarterbacks into their meeting room. And you're like, that's kind of odd I thought for sure they would. So there is definitely a chess game going on. The bigger chess game that I think happens is when teams assume I think teams think we may take a quarterback, we know we're not gonna, but let's bring guys in to do the meetings. Portrayed because if a team assumes that we all the senator are going to take a quarterback, they may try to jump us. Another team might have tried to go get that guy so now we can position ourselves for a trade to add more value to get more picks. So like we know our plan, let's bring some guys in for that. I think sometimes when those meetings are called, sometimes it's just for draft to be able to potentially get more picks. I heard that Broncos didn't never even brought cutler in before the draft. I heard the same story, never talked to him, never did a meeting with him, didn't do a private workout. What the heck, Jim. Yeah. And then they picked him. I know. I tell guys all the time, like, look, like, don't just assume that because these three or four teams are showing you a lot of love that that's where you're gonna end up. Like you don't know what team, I won't without exposing certain teams because I've had this conversation. Yes. Some teams will purposefully not go to the pro day, purposefully not be around the quarterback after the draft because they know they like him and they don't want anybody else to know that they're interested. Well, the colts didn't even have a behalf available in this draft, apparently in their meeting rooms at the combat I heard. Sometimes they do that because they know we're going to bring them to our place. They have informal influence. Just look who we're running into at the hallway, you know? Or they'll set up the ones where they bring the whole group out. Like everybody knows this now, but the colts have been going around to Bryce, CJ, Jaron, those quarterbacks, you know, probably Anthony probably will, where they bring the entire brass, right? It's GM. It's like player personnel. It's offensive coaches. They bring the whole group and boom, boom boom, we're gonna go meet everybody. So why do we need to bring him in at the combine if we know we're gonna go do this? Yeah, it was tepper palooza with all the pro days. The whole Panthers from the tepper family all the way down. They had everybody. They did. If you don't mind, I'm gonna take a break and have one more segment. I appreciate it because you mentioned Zach Wilson and I need a little bit of runway for that. So I've got John Beck right here on the rich eisen show studio, the comedian Steven Wright now are number three. That's next. More John Beck, I want to talk about Zach Wilson and what might be going on with your protege. U.S. cellular is introducing us mode. It's like airplane mode, but for people. It's a way to set up your phone so it doesn't get in the way of people really being with each other. Block distractions and make way for real connection.
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"john beck" Discussed on The Rich Eisen Show
"He's a guy that does have experience, but you're right. Like, you know, indie probably has some things that they have to figure out in terms of that quarterback room if they do bring in a top pick at quarterback, is their plan to start them right away as their plan to have a veteran there. I mean, I just think like, you know, and I know you and I talked a little bit of Zach Wilson during the break, right? Like, I look at a player like Zack, who has tons of talent. It would have benefited him when he first got to New York to have a veteran there. That could really kind of just him watch and learn from because you learned so much from watching a guy go out to practice watching how he functions in the meeting room, watching how he watches his own tape, being able to ask him questions on the sideline. Like, I remember being a second year player in the league, a whole new staff comes in. They bring in Chad Pennington. Although that second year I never played in a game, I learned so much from Chad Pennington. Being a young quarterback in the league, having somebody that you can just watch and soak in information from help so much. Some guys really need it. Well, I want to put a pin in Zach Wilson for a second and we'll return to that. I'll pull the pin out in a second, which is not a euphemism for anything about what's going on with him in New York. But would you mind telling the story about when you first met Anthony Richardson? I kind of overheard you tell that story at the beginning. Oh yeah, that's right, the confines. That's right. Yeah, you were sitting by a Daniel Jeremiah. Yeah, that's right. I just love this story. I'm throwing with, I believe it was either J can or jaren hall. We were warm like, you know, throwing in the comb. I like, you have all those days leading up to the actual field day that you're not touching a football. So we're throwing balls there in the convention center. Let them throw a little bit. And this guy standing next to me is I think he was in a hoodie. I assumed it was a defensive player. I assume there was a linebacker, and I'm throwing the ball back and he's like, oh, still spinning it, huh? And I'm like, oh, those days are past, man. I'm like, this is their turn to do this, and the guy was super cool, super kind. And I'm thinking this is a defensive player leaving this meeting room, and he just wanted to chat a little bit. And so I walked back over to the quarterbacks and they go, hey, what did Anthony Richardson say to you? And I was like, I didn't, I didn't talk to Anthony Richardson. They're like that guy that was standing there in the hoodie. That was Anthony Richardson. And I was like, I thought that was a linebacker. He's that big. Yeah, physically just, you know, I mean, he just, he looks the part, right? I mean, and it's known Doc, right? Like, I'd watched a bunch of Anthony's games, but I'm watching it with a helmet on. Yeah, sure. I don't have everybody memorized without their helmet on of what they look like. And just based off of his structure, you see it in that picture. Like the neck, the frame, how wide his shoulders were. I mean, I assumed I'm talking to a linebacker that's a good dude, wanting to chat it up a little bit. And I guess and with will levis too. He's Jack also. So where do you think would be a good fit for him just off the top? You know, it's so tough because you can sit there and say, hey, here's the fits, but the reality of the draft is you have these teams that feel pressed to make a pick. Press two just like we talked about Seattle. I am now picking potentially in the top 8 picks. I don't want to be here potentially drafting a quarterback again. I want to get it right. I want to pick a guy that, you know, by the NFL terms nowadays, is cheap. First round quarterbacks are essentially the cheapest quarterback that you can find to be a premier type guy. So I mean, it's tough because I know the offense that Shane's gonna be running in indie and I see things like I know will more than I know Anthony. I've never thrown with Anthony. Will has come out and done some work with us in the off season. Has a tremendous arm. Like physically, you know, super gifted arms. He refers to it as the canon that he brought to the kanban. So he is really physically gifted, right? And you see him take off with the football you see him run. One of the things that I try to tell people is I know my quarterbacks that I train better than the other guys because I actually get to sit down in a film room with them. And I get to say talk me through your offense. I want to talk about your best games. Let's pull up your worst game of the year. And I make them, let's talk through your worst game. Let's talk to what you were thinking. So it's like, I can feel in depth how they're processing things. That's my only thing like with Anthony and will and those guys like, I can talk about what I see physically more so well because of some time spent with him on the field, but I can't talk about how they process the game. That to me is something I really got to sit in a meeting room with a guy to get to know him. Do you think teams bring these players in to have those exact conversations without any desire to draft them just so they know what their weaknesses are if they face them later on in their professional playing career. Like you see some teams sitting way down in the teens having some of these guys. And I understand you've got to do your due diligence they could drop down. But do you think there's that aspect of this evaluation season, John Beck, where somebody's bringing somebody in and asking him, what was your biggest weakness? Which player gives you the most trouble, draw it up. So we can help you with that if you come here. I mean, fully banking that to know what their defense needs to be dialed up against that guy if they face him. It's not a bad thought it would have to come from
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"john beck" Discussed on The Rich Eisen Show
"John Beck back here on our radio network. And so you're being drafted into Miami into that situation, obviously it got totally blown up right after that one in 15 season. This is also a tale about how you need to be successful in the NFL, the nature versus nurture or anything like that. You still do need, no matter how talented you are, got to wind up in the right spot with a stable organization and a coach who's not going to be blown out and if starters get hurt that you can be ready or if you're thrown into a situation, it really does matter where you're drafted. Absolutely, you know, I remember being in that time frame in my life and you just want to believe that your mindset, your grit, your willingness to sacrifice and persevere is going to still get you to where you want to go. And you know, you go through experiences in life and you learn a lot and I'm probably a better mentor and coach because of some of the things that I went through that didn't help my my personal career, but you're absolutely right. As I have spent years reflecting on the things I've learned as a pro athlete, you learn just how important it is for quarterback development, especially early, like you want to have positive things happen. You want to be able to have people that can truly mentor and help. And like we are talking about in the break, a guy like Josh mccown, being a quarterback coach in that room, and some of the things that the guys on that staff have developed. They've been through the paces and Carolina. In Carolina. Right. And so you look at that and you say, if that group can stay together, the consistency, those things can be there to help develop a young quarterback. But when you toss out the head coach when you're changing playbooks, when it's people that come in the building when it's not the GM that picked you when it's not to head coach the picture. Those things just make it tough on a young quarterback. Sure it does, man. But you learn a lot. I got to tell you and again, I know one of your guys is going to wind up in Carolina. I look at them and I think to myself, whoever goes there, you got Frank Reich, my goodness, and mccown, and Jim Caldwell, and do staley. We had miles Sanders on the program saying that's why he went to Carolina. He loves deuce. So he got miles Sanders to run it. They picked up Adam Thielen, the catch, right? I know they traded DJ Moore a way to get the right to choose whoever one of your clients is going to be fortunate to be first overall. It just seems to be a great position for anybody to be drafted there. John Beck here on the rich eisen show, let's talk Anthony Richardson if you don't mind, I know you don't coach him. The idea is that he needs some time, maybe full year, you said you were on the utility, the dolphins put you on the quote unquote Aaron Rodgers playing when they drafted you. Do you think he does need to sit? I mean, here's what I'll say about all quarterbacks. I think it helps all quarterbacks to spend some time learning developing, growing, watching somebody run the offense effectively. I know that there's those guys like a Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco with Justin Herbert, where they play early and you look at it and things, things are working, right? A lot of the times, run game defense, play pass, like those things can help a young quarterback. But let's say you don't have those things, right? It makes it tougher. I look at Anthony and I see somebody that's extremely talented, right? You don't have to be a quarterback coach to be able to recognize physical gifts. The guy's physically talented. I've never sat in the meeting room with him. I've never sat in the offensive, you know, watching the game after the game going over stuff with him. I don't know how he processes, but you look at talent and you say, based off of what I know about quarterbacks and how much it can help a quarterback to spend some time, I would assume that he would be a guy that with given the right time, it's going to benefit him, especially if he can watch somebody perform it successfully. I think one of the toughest things is when you're playing young as a quarterback in a struggling situation, you're not watching the offense run the way that maybe like it can be efficiently. Yes. You're watching the offense kind of sputter sputter sputter. Okay, now it's your turn to go in and see if you can make something happen. Well, when you're a young quarterback and you're being asked to do better than a veteran that's been there before, like and he sputtering, that can be tough. So to him, I think, man, like getting him in a situation where he can watch somebody run and effective NFL offense and learn and grow from that and especially have a veteran quarterback that's willing to share. You know, sometimes a quarterback can kind of like put his foot in the ground and say, I'm not here to mentor a young guy. That's not my job. I'm here to win football games. And I respect that mindset, right? That's why they're being paid millions to win football games, but there's also those guys that they understand I was once a young guy. I know what it's like to have questions. I know what it's like to try to learn. And that's why somebody like, I played with Josh mccown. I know he's going to be a fantastic coach because he's been that guy. He was that guy for Sam darnold. He's been that guy for so many young quarterbacks. I'm here to win football games, but I also want to understand what it's like to be in your shoes. I'll help you develop. I do think for Anthony that can help. Well, Vegas might be a spot for him and obviously Jimmy G might fit that good guy veteran who can wants to win games, but will help somebody develop, although they would have completely different skill sets, I would think. And then there's the idea that you might wind up in Indianapolis where there's a new head coach, change steichen, who did have Herbert and I was a quarterbacks coach when he was a rookie. We just saw what Jalen hurts was able to do over the last couple of years. But there's no veteran that's sitting right there pretty much right now. Cupboard is totally bare. It is that front. I love Shane. I've known Shane for a long time, and I think he's great for young quarterbacks, like he said, helping develop Justin Herbert really getting Jalen really on that track to be a premier player in the league that he is.
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"Out of here. And that's even after and Ryan has sat in this chair many times. Confirmed that he did, in fact, when the colts asked paint Manning and Ryan leaf the same question, like if we make you the first overall pick, what are you going to do? Peyton said, I'll get in the playbook. I'll do this. I'll do that. And Ryan said, I'm going to go to Vegas and hang with my buddies. After that sort of, if you will, red flag got raised. They still kicked tires all the way to the end. So I understand that the team's grind certainly when it's such an important position. But when you say it's a certain type, the type for Frank Reich is somebody who's over 6 feet. That's the idea. And when I say type, I think if you're going to take the number one pick and you're going to make them, you know, like you have the pick. So you're going to take a quarterback. You don't want to be picking a top ten pick again. Especially for a quarterback, you want to say, this is the guy that we pick at the top that we're going to roll with for a long time. Yes. So I think when you have that, it has to be not only does he fit the body type. And maybe he doesn't. Nowadays I think that more people are open to, it may not be the traditional body type, but a special player. Like if you're going to trade up trade away future first round picks and go pick number one, it's got to be this player that you feel like captivates all of the things that you want in a playmaker. Yes. Especially if you're a team picking at the top. Usually that means that there's some holes. There's a thing you got to shore up. So you got to find a guy that can almost make up for a little bit of that. And that's why to me, like I don't know, like I know a lot of people say that Frank likes the bigger body type, but you can't argue with the ability that Bryce young has to make plays when nothing's there to create. And most teams, most coaches nowadays say I want that guy. I want a guy that I know if things break down. If I don't call the perfect play, who's the guy that can find a way to make a play for me? And I'm not taking anything away from CJ 'cause he does a tremendous job at that as well, but I would say that's almost where a Bryce young thrives in that. Okay. And you made a great statement earlier when I was in the green room where I heard it. Yes, sir. Teams don't want to be picking top again. Like, I think you're a referencing the Seattle Seahawks. Saying, hey, we don't want to be picking this out again. Pete Carroll's literally said to us on the 2nd of March when he called into this. I've heard that from so many teams. So many coaches, not just this year, but in years past, where they say, look, we don't want to be picking top 5. We don't want to be picking top ten again. So we have to look at quarterbacks because if we can get a quarterback at this pick from a money value standpoint, look what we save by not having to go out and sign a high priced veteran. So then how would the concept as forwarded by my buddy longtime friend Adam Schefter who knows quite a bit that he's not sold on the idea that the Texans are going to take a quarterback second overall? How does that notion hit you as somebody who is close to the situation as you are? I would almost bet that they've gone down that path. They have to go down both paths. They have to go down the path that says, okay, what if Carolina chooses quarterback a and we have quarterback B sitting there? Is that the person that we want to pick right now? Or is there somebody else that we can pick? And then that, like you said, opens up the door for Arizona now saying, thank you. Now you just slid quarterback B into our lap, and now all of a sudden, we can send out trade. Now we can move out of that third pick. So, you know, to me, there's like these different notions of like, okay, do we need a quarterback that bad? Or do we need as an organization to take the best player available? And maybe the highest player on their board could be a defensive player, like who knows what it is. Some teams will say, if we're going to be the second pick and we have an opportunity to take a quarterback, let's get him. Because it could be right. And we don't have to overpay. It's not the old years where you got to pay 60 70 million guaranteed. It's not those years anymore, you know? But are we at a position as an organization where we just have to take the best overall player? But you're also talking to the Texans every now and then, obviously, and you were at the pro days. I believe you said Bryce young's pro day, you ran. And Taylor Kelly ran Bryce's from 3D QB. And so that would kind of, I know will Anderson is really special. That's the guy I'm thinking who would cause them to say choice B and a quarterback spot versus will Anderson, maybe we do one over the other. Teams like to talk to me about quarterbacks. And they like to ask about the quarterbacks. Tell me what he's like off the field. Tell me what he's like in the meeting room. Tell me what he was like training on the field. Talk about this, talk about that. Nobody's talking about, here's what we're thinking. Did you ever ask them? No, they always try to pin these things on me. They always try to pin like all right. You're the general manager. Which guy, you know, I'm like, no. I'm two guys at your coach. Happens all the time. Happens all the time. But they kind of do it with a laugh. Like, I know. I know. But they just want to hear something is split moment of clarity that they could or at least view his class. I know and it's funny. I'm like, guys, don't try to put that on me. But I mean, look, I love the conversations. Like when I get an opportunity to talk with teams, I love talking about I love talking quarterbacks. I love talking about both those guys. Yes. CGM Bryce love both those guys. They're special trades to both one of them. But the thing is, is no team ever, ever, ever says, here's what we're thinking. I mean, they are just tight lipped, they're not showing their cards. Of course. Well, I make mccown's not going to say no. Hey, I'll do you solid. I'll tell you. Tell one of your clients to what did he say to Stroud? What do you say to Stroud? No, I heard it was right. It was to Bryce, right? Is there something like that? Somebody said Mike caught something. I think it was to Stroud. He's like, you know, hey, when you come to Charlotte, is that what it was? I mean, look, here's the thing. Like, I'm sure Josh, Josh, is such a good dude, right? And he's just, you know, he's trying to like be cool, help the person feel comfortable. And he probably knows in his situation, right? Like he's not being the one that's going to make the pick. He's going to gather information. He's going to learn what he pound a table. He can pound a table, but if you've been in those situations, you know that like, I mean, I've heard of coaches pounding tables for guys, and that's not the guy that ends up getting picked because you have the upstairs guys, you have the downstairs football guys, you have everybody that's going in on it and you have the owner, right? And a lot of the times at the end of the day, the owner owns the team. The check scratcher has the last, I'm sure those picks when you're picking one and two, it's got to go through. Here's what we think. And they're going to turn over to the owner. And they're going to say, what do you want to do? 3D QB quarterback instructor, John Beck here, and the rich eisen show studio from the combine of the draft
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"And you're for an Andy Dalton being in Carolina. That's what you're referring to that there's somebody that's there is a veteran. No, I'm saying a coach. Like a veteran play caller. Like Frank Reagan. Like, Frank Wright. He's developed quarterbacks. He's had a young quarterbacks, right? Bobby Sloan could first year offensive coordinator Houston. This is going to be his first time being an offensive coordinator. And if they decide to draft a quarterback with that second pick, it'll be his first time with a young quarterback. There is a difference in terms of what that play caller can do when he knows I have a guy that has that experience. Well, the idea that Frank Reich is in Carolina and you take a look at the guys that he's had to develop. Absolutely. And you could even include himself in that process. I mean, you just see the photographs of him dapping up all the guys that he is pulling through the paces and been through and all the pro days and you've seen him at those. He's eye to eye with CJ Stroud and clearly he's not with Bryce young. That he likes big guys and that's why CJ Stroud might be the choice of the Carolina Panthers. Did you get that sense at all? You know what? It's been interesting to have conversations because there's people in that building that I know really well. Josh mccown was a teammate of mine in Miami. We've stayed in touch the whole time. He actually his kids come and train with us when we're in Texas. And so he's a guy that like, you know, I talk very openly to because whatever quarterback goes to Carolina, I want it to be the right fit for both. I want it to be the right fit for Carolina and the right fit for that quarterback. And I know they like both guys. I know that they have things with both guys that they see that they like that captures their imagination. Hey, here's what we can do with this guy. Here's what we like with this guy. CJ's a big body guy, big, thick, strong legs, athletic for his build. I know they like that because when you got to play 17 games and you're getting hit as a quarterback size can help. I mean, I take one of the guys that I work with a lot, dak Prescott. He's as built as in shape as muscular as they come. That's 17 game season plus playoffs. That's still a beating on his body. Yes. Well, when you start thinking about, all right, now we're going to insert a young guy. He's going to make some mistakes. He's going to take some probably unnecessary hits just because he doesn't have the experience of the pro game yet. How's his body going to hold up through that course of a season? And that can impact the decision. 3D QB quarterback instructor John Beck is here and the rich eisen show as part of the first from the combine to the draft sponsored by noble right here on the rich eisen show and noble was all over the NFL scouting combine that I saw John at right here now however in Los Angeles studios of the rich eisen show. Let's talk CJ Stroud now. When was the first time you met him? Was he also 14? 14. His was a high school. At a Rancho Cucamonga, started coming down as he was kind of making that transition from high school to college. And then he's come out a handful of times each year at like while he was out of House state. Okay. Ohio, oh, you mean the Ohio State. I'm sorry, I'm confused. I should have said the that's okay. Because, you know, the confused that we could have been. Is there like a Buckeye in here? Is that why that happened? Is that? No. That's a Wolverine here. Oh, we have a Buckeye in the back. Yeah, those Buckeye stuff everywhere because for a while, I was writing checks that got cashed against me around here, but as you know, the last couple of years. Those checks have been returned to center. You know what I'm saying? Abilities. We mentioned, I guess, young's of his many talents, his football intelligence, Stroud, I'm sure has a significant one as well. What are his strengths that could make him the first overall pick in this year's draft? Do you think I love from a physical standpoint? I love the snappy whips of his arm. You want to talk a guy that can make throws effortlessly down the field. He has a way in small space, the way that he delivers the ball and it's just with such amazing accuracy down the field to me. I'm going to look at vertical game. I'm going to look at deep crosses. I'm going to look at, you know, throws to the sideline at depth, like I've played past. I kind of look back at some of the nerve Turner vertical passing game that still in the NFL, like that Philip Rivers thrived in. Like I kind of really like that type stuff for CJ. The other thing I love about him is his competitiveness, whether it's on the football field, whether it's playing basketball, you can just tell the dude loves to compete, especially on the big stage. Like, here's a guy that came into Ohio State, played in big games, has really thrived played in playoff games, had arguably his best game against Georgia. He was incredible. Incredible. And I love when I see the guys play big and big games. You know, and it's not forced. It's just it's who they are. When they play their natural game, it shows up in big games that they play well. And I feel like CJ does that. And look, and I know it's not game conditions because they're not wearing pads and there's no defense. But the combine's a pretty big stage. He was so great. At the scouting combine. And effortless, it looked effortless when the ball came out of his hands and he put it wherever he damn well wanted to. He was spectacular and that kind of with young who didn't throw at the combine. It flipped a script, obviously the script doesn't matter until we hear a name on the first night of the NFL Draft. So I'm going to put you on the spot if you don't mind. It's not like you've not been there before. Do you think the Panthers traded up for somebody specifically? And they're just kicking tires on it between now and then what do you think they knew who they were trading up to one to go get John? I think they knew the type of player and that had to fit the for us to move up for Carolina to move up. There had to be that that player fit. I think that they consider that both fit that player. I don't think it was a move to get specifically Bryce in that moment or CJ in that moment. And I'm saying this just because of like talks that I had leading up to it. Was about both guys, I'm sorry, hit the mic right there for you. It was about both guys. Yes. So I think what their comfort was was we can make this now. We can go up and then we can make a decision. Like, I don't know if they've even made their decision yet. Like maybe they have, maybe they haven't, but I think when the trade was made to go up there, it was we consider that both of these guys can be that guy that we want to go get. Now let's do our due diligence. Let's take our time. Let's uncover every stone we can, and then let's go get the guy that we feel is not only like maybe their number one guy, but the guy that's going to fit what we want to do best. Well, I believe you completely, not like I said. It's not like I think you're giving me a line. But I believe with the notion that they traded up for knowing that both guys would be just fine. And maybe they'd be one. Maybe like, well, we know one, let's go find out about the other, but either way, now we can pick between the two because correct because Jim Moore senior told me so many times that they were grinding tape on Peyton Manning and Ryan leaf till the very last second. And I'm
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"Me here in studio is a man who knows a lot about what's going on in this draft, certainly with the top quarterbacks available in this year's draft because they are part of his clients as the private instructor quarterback instructor for 3D QB, the 40th overall pick of the 2007 NFL Draft John Beck here in studio. Good to see you, John how you doing? I'm doing good. Thanks for coming in. Yeah, of course. I appreciate it. You got your 3D QP. You get opportunities like this. You gotta kinda shake it. I appreciate that. And be careful. The guy who makes a sound so good over there, my audio executive, he likes to call it Mike del tufo. He is the king of its free, it's me. I agree. I agree with that. I'll take one. Yeah. Okay. Let me get an address and we'll send you something. He'll wear it because Nike's not paying him a dime right now. No. He just got the hat for nothing one thing. Well, it's good to see you. I appreciate it. I know how long were you on the road at what point consecutively? Yeah, this time of year between pro days, the pre draft prep. And then we still have our NFL clients. So those guys are getting ready for their day when they start OTAs. So we have those guys that were on the road for as well. So you were because I saw you at the combine. Yeah. That's right. Combine senior bowl, all that type of stuff. So you went from mobile and so your home base is out here in Southern California, right? Yeah. Okay. So occasionally you touch back before mobile and then Indianapolis, and then the pro days. So two of your clients, we've heard of and significantly heard of over the last 6, 7 weeks CJ Stroud and Bryce young. When was the first time you saw Bryce young? When did you connect with him? 14 years old, I think he was. He was an 8th grader. And he came to our field. I remember he was doing the workout and one of our other coaches Taylor Kelly was like, hey, you gotta watch this kid. This kid's pretty impressive for 14 year old. And he was from the get go. The kid was showed some innate skills, some ability to kind of make some throws that were very unique. And then I was also really impressed with how quick of release, how strong of an arm he had at that young of an age. At that young overnight. Yeah, and then you just watched him progress and he went up and transferred to modern day. I want to say going into his junior year started for them for a couple of years. Tops in the country commits to Alabama. I've been fortunate. I got to watch a spring game there with him one time. I went out and did some stuff with him and he's just been special, really the entire time. And the specialness for Bryce young and what I heard at the combine so much about was his football intelligence FBI as it's referred to so much that he has a unique ability to absorb a game plan and execute it. You got a good story that about that. So I'll say this. I've been doing the pre draft prep stuff for quarterbacks for a while now. He's probably one of the, maybe if not the first guy where I actually, after one of the times I just kind of said Bryce, hey, let's talk. I get the sense that this is so much of what you've already understood. You've already done. And I kind of liken it to, if I were to bring somebody that's been in the league for two to three years and put them through the pre draft process. Yes. Of the thing that we do, we watch tape, we show NFL clips, hey, have you experienced this? Is this concept new to you? You have experience running this. Have you seen this coverage? They're learning as they're going. It was like Bryce had experienced it almost. And whether it's because of what he was exposed to at Alabama, how he absorbs information, whatever they were doing, he is so well prepared right now for the position that he's in. And so for me, it was the first time where I felt like for him I might need to do some other things that challenge him because our normal flow for the pre draft kind of like information acquisition process, it's like he'd almost done it before. And then how will that translate to an NFL transition from rookie from a college to rookie? How will that manifest itself in a way that teams know it, see that, experience it, whether it's in an interview at the combine or at one of the top 30 visits or it's a pro day conversation. How will they hear this know this and maybe shoot him further up a draft board because of a do you think? Well, I think they'll sense comfort. You can tell when something's new to somebody, you can tell when they have experience. Let's say putting it on the board. A lot of the times in the pre draft process as a coach, you're putting concepts on the board and you're talking through that. And all the guys at this stage are bright. They all get it. They all understand football. But do they have the experience actually doing it in a game? An 11 on 11 situation. Whether that's a game rep, a practice rep, have they played it out. Because here's one of the differences between a young quarterback and a veteran quarterback in the league. A lot of young quarterbacks are smart, but they lack the experience. The veteran quarterbacks they can tell you, look, that's what the read is, but here's what I do. Or I can get through the progression quicker because I know I can eliminate one this fast. Well, young guys, they don't have that experience yet. Bryce is probably going to be able to get in those positions and say, oh yeah, I've had that experience. I can get off one that faster. I know what I can do here. I know I'm going to have this wheel linebacker's eyes. It's going to be that like almost as if he's played a year, even though he hasn't. And I think the big thing nowadays with the pro football is when you're drafting the guy's high, it's no longer about here's our offense. We have to get you up to speed on our offense. And you got to do what we want. I sense more now, it's like, let's see what this guy's done before. What he's good at because if we're going to play him early, it's going to need to be things that he's comfortable with. And so if I have a guy like Bryce coming into my building to be the quarterback, there's so much that he's going to be comfortable with, which helps, especially if you are a young play caller. And I know like there's veteran play colors and Carolina. But if you're in Houston and you got a first year play caller, that's going to help to have a guy that has some experience in those different concepts. Right.
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"To be productive player, I thought, I thought that that would make a lot of sense. I love Doug Peterson at the combine this year. I mean, so Philly is for those who don't know the most ruthless football market in America. Coaching there is harder than coaching in any other place because the reporters are very good at their jobs. Excellent at their jobs, but also just completely tough. Brutal and he did his first press conference of the combine this year and the first question to him as Jaguar's coach was from a Philly reporter just saying, hey, Doug, did you learn from all the mistakes you made in Philadelphia? And Super Bowl ring. He laughs and that's what he said. He's like, do you mean winning the Super Bowl? I do feel like a lot of people forget that Doug Peterson won a Super Bowl. Three years ago. He won a Super Bowl with Nick Foles after Carson Wentz. Now, was a lot of that Frank Reich, sure. I don't think there's any doubt about that. And when you removed him from the equation, stuff started to get a little slippery. But that is also, that is an organization that, for the better and for the worse, fires coaches unceremoniously. Like, I mean, they got rid of Andy Reid, chip Kelly, who, I mean, listen, I'm gonna stand on the table for this guy as long as I live. And I know it's a blind spot. I know it's a blind spot, and I will fight, but I'm gonna fight to the death, but he went like ten and 6, two years in a row, and then he got fired at 7 9. Like, this is not a bad season, or 7, I think he was 7 and 8 at the time, and then they fired him with like two weeks ago in the season. Doug Peterson got fired two years after winning the Super Bowl. And like they do keep finding good coaches, but I think Doug's going to be fine. He's going to be in a great place. He's going to have a nice tan. He's going to be he's going to be he's going to be a better man. All right, let's go on to Zach Wilson here who you can still squint and see Zach Wilson as, you know, big time treats guy and that sort of thing. The most bizarre thing for me about tackling this one a year ago was he should be a guy who plays really well out of structure, considering that the flexibility, the arm town all that stuff, and he's tended to, the longer the down went on, the more he tended to kind of meltdown is probably overstating it, but like the number of times where he sort of got outside the pocket and he's got someone open four steps in front of him and he fires it into their feet. They were just so many of those moments. And I don't know if that's just a matter of like, you know, calming down, getting used to the kind of havoc that happens on an NFL field, you know, certainly coming out of BYU where he's playing all those wide open spaces and jumping to the NFL. That was a big adjustment, but I don't know. I don't know if that's correctable. I don't know, I don't know if it's a problem or not. I don't know, I don't know what Zach Wilson's deal is. I guess is where I kind of land on this. Yeah, Zach was weird because he was building a trade sky like you said, but he didn't always obviously didn't even show up like most of the time. When he was on the field, and the weirdest place to me, and he had a lot of them here where it would be like a swing pass or a screen and just turfing it at the guy's feet. I'm like, what are you doing? That's like some peewee crap. I don't know if I can cuss on here, so I'm just not going to. Almost caught myself. Yeah, it was just bizarre, because like you said, it's still this guy with a big arm mobile, but that I feel like it only really showed out a handful of times last season. There's the play. To be Tennessee, I think, in over time, where he had a big throw at the end. That was nice. And then there was another game like later in the season where he had a big run to help the win, but just overall, I just wanted to see more flashes from him and I didn't feel like we quite got that. And even if the Jets have the situation last year where the supporting cast wasn't great, micro four, I still did a decent enough job calling plays like Mike white had success. So you would hope that the number two overall pick would be able to come and replicate some of the same things. And Mike white, the games that he played like one of them was against a colts. Their defensive coordinator just got hired by the bears to be their head coach. So, you know, it's not like he's out there cutting up against the falcons or something like that. It's a quality opponent. So I don't know, I just would like to see more production from Zack because I think he has the physical talent to do it, but they were just a lot of times to me where he looked kind of out of place. And that would be a little bit worrying to me in terms of like, all right, we know the ceiling on Zac is high, but what if the floor is a lot lower than we thought it was? It's always an interesting it's always an interesting situation when you bring in the guys private quarterbacks coach, midseason, which the jets did last year. John Beck was essentially a I don't know whatever you want to call it associates quarterbacks coach to rob cavalry's and we might see more of that, the more that these guys ingrain themselves with the players and I do think that there is something to the fact that your private quarterback coach is probably doing more for you as a player than your NFL quarterbacks coach and maybe at some point you marry those two things, but and Robert sala is a player friendly guy, but that said that the necessity to have to do that is what worried me a little bit where you're thinking, okay, this has gone far enough off the rails that were basically bringing in a guy who can translate this stuff for him or can say it in a way that he understands it. I don't know what that is. Because you've done the due diligence on him theoretically, you have all of the information that you need. Did that information not match up? You know, they've obviously they had some personnel an incredibly unfortunate situation where their quarterback coach died before the start of the season. So maybe you just needed extra people in the room. But that said, it's like, okay, where is he at? Does he understand we're trying to do here? And can he get a graduate degree in this system after year two? I think we've seen a lot of these quarterbacks take to the outside zone revolution pretty quickly. From everything that I understand about the offense, I mean, all NFL offenses are complex, but this one, it limits, there are rules, but as soon as you learn the rules, it kind of limits your decision making, right? And it's supposed to narrow stuff down for you. I don't know if that necessarily happened for Zach. Yeah, and I think one thing that I kind of understood about Zach was like, coming out of BYU, I don't know. It took a long time for things to click during during actual plays. But when all you're off to the linemen are damn near 30 years old, playing against guys in their young 20s. That's not true. Yeah, this guy's okay, not like 30 years old. But I did think the tackle that the Panthers drafted Brady Christian. I think he was like 25 year old ruby, so. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. It was like, okay, he's getting time to sit there and make these throws, but how fast is he actually like processing what's going on down the field? And I think that that's a question that I still have for him. Going into year two because I don't know. That patriots game that they played I've met life is still burned to my head where he's basically just throwing the ball straight to patriots defenders down the field. I'm like, what are you looking at dude? So I guess that's something that, obviously, you don't want to see him throwing four interceptions in the game, but I think just in general, having a better feel for what's going on. And maybe it doesn't show up in the statute, maybe it does, but that's
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"Joe banner longtime executive in the NFL and certainly in Philadelphia and there was a trade atop the NFL Draft yesterday that normally would make big time news if it wasn't a national championship Monday between Kansas and North Carolina that turned out to be a heck of a game and then now Tiger Woods y'all are saying as of right now going to play in the masters and it looks like he's going to be out there on Thursday right in the middle of the morning ten 30 something local time and Augusta national, he said today not only as of right now is he going to play, but he was asked point blank, does he think that he has the ability to win the masters this year? I do. That was his answer. And he didn't stutter. And he stared down wherever asked the question, I do. And he didn't smile. He didn't smirk. This is it, man. He's locked in. It's head on. It's masters week. I do. It's masters week. And so we'll talk about that with Ian O'Connor, who joins us in our number three. He wrote the book literally on coach K and has been covering Tiger for quite some time. And he writes for the New York Post. So we'll ask him about who's going to start opening day for the mets. I'm free. You just be careful. Look both ways before crossing the street to get to flushing Meadows, New York. Joe banner will join us in again 18 minutes time to give us a heads up on what he thinks the saints were up to and what the eagles got and what their long-term plan a quarterback may be. They now have a little bit more flexibility. And next year is draft. They already have the flexibility in this year's draft, and the question is who might fall to them and where will the quarterbacks wind up? And we've got one of the top quarterback prospects available in this year's draft joining us right now on the Mercedes Benz van's phone line. All miss quarterback Matt corral. How are you doing Matt? I'm doing good. How much so? I'm doing fine. So what's April looking like for you right now? You've got visits lined up, walk me through what you're weak and rest of the month looks like for you right now. Well, as soon as the combine ended, I got yeah, I got to Zoom meetings. I got the private workouts and the visits. It's coming up, starting next week. Was supposed to go to New Orleans last Thursday, but due to weather, we had to postpone it. But tomorrow I'm going to go to Orange County and see my guy, John Beck, and get some work in, and it's a constant work every single day, but you got to love it because you only do this once. And I'm about to start doing what I was dreaming of doing when I was a kid. Yeah, I mean, I guess this is going to be the most traveling in a month you do. Maybe for the rest of your life, you know? You never know. So what's your itinerary? So you rescheduled New Orleans. I imagine and who else are you going to go pay a visit to? You're going to see. I want to say a panther steelers. I want to say Atlanta and there's eagles. Okay. So those are the ones that are there any that you already seen outside of them. Personally. No, I mean, I remember going to the NFLPA and I remember visiting the eagles facility. I remember just being in awe going there. That was pretty it was a pretty cool fun experience. Well, other than your personal physical health and how you're recovering from your bowl game injury. What's the most often or common question that's being asked of you that Carell in this process? You know, I would say just what type of leader I am? And I think that's just a common question that I've been asked frequently and I just tell them like I'm a servant leader and I wouldn't ask anybody to do something that I wouldn't do. And they know that because I'm constantly showing that on a day to today basis. And that's the answer you provide. Give me the answer that you provide to that. No, that is the answer. Okay. It's short and sweet, but. It answers everything. Because I mean, you ask anybody in that facility, they'll tell you. And your decision to play in your bowl game. Are you asked about that at all? Matt? Yes, sir. I mean, I've been asked the other assets as well. I knew I would never be in that position without my teammates. Specifically, everybody that has contributed from scout team to just being just. Being the ball black, I feel like everybody takes credit for being a part of being a part of this, the team that we have. I would have never been in that spot without those guys. And I think that I don't think they really understood that because it never crossed my mind that I wasn't going to play. The only reason why I had to make it make it a thing and announce that is because people were coming up to me on my team. Asking me if I was going to play. And that had never even crossed my mind. And that was something that was a curve ball just because I didn't think people would be thinking that, but I let them know, I want to say this was after the state game, or even the season. And I went in that next Saturday and I just wanted to let her that Friday and I wanted to let them know that exactly what I just said. I wouldn't be in this position without you guys and I'm going to give it all until it's over. Well, what was going through your mind when you got hurt in that game? My heart was in my throat. We've never met, you know? I just watched that and I got sick to my stomach, seeing that because I was wanting to see you at the combine and see you work out and I didn't know how serious it was and things like that. What was going through your mind on the sideline that day? My first thought was my family. And then right after my family was just my journey, I just thought it was over. I didn't know how bad or what had happened, but I just knew it hurt her a lot. And the pain wasn't settling at all. Like, it just kept going up and up and up, and I was just like, this is not good in my head. And I just remembered like not being able to put weight on it and it was scary. It was scary, definitely just because I had no idea what had happened and I'm grabbing my ankle and I can't feel it. And I'm blessed to finally find out that it was just a high ankle sprain, and there's no brakes or tears. And that I made a full recovery. Matt corral here on the rich eisen show. I heard your phone buzzed before, was at Brett Michaels texting you, Matt? Necessarily. I mean, I've talked to Brett throughout this process. He really wants me to land Pittsburgh. I was that was my next question because he was here in studio last month, Matt, and he didn't need me to bring your name up. He was talking about you and your family. He considers you family and loves you and man, does he want you to be the next quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers in the worst way? Big time. Yeah, I mean, I have the utmost respect for the Michael family. I mean, what they've done for me is something that something that I can never repay them for, you know, they're there for me and tough times and helping me through.
KNBR The Sports Leader
"john beck" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader
"If he didn't need to get out of the pocket, kind of what John Beck was saying, he's a fast twitch athlete. You don't have to always fast twitch. Don't get happy features. Stay there. But he's so I think this is When the first reads, not there, and he's going through the progressions. That's why that Travis Benjamin touchdown passes the best he's had when he just looked at all off, and he held the safety and he looked right middle came to That was a pro quarterback, NFL caliber play. Um, so I think he's still doubt on the plays that are the off schedule plays that you've got to make where the 1st 2nd reason out there. Now you gotta move. He would think he'd be really good at that. And then when does he just tuck it and run? When you see there was a play the other night when he almost got strip sack from behind, and he kind of elongated to pull back, and then he I think he sensed that a little bit he avoided he got sacked. But he avoided a six the the the strip sacked Braaten Cortes brought number 91 was going to get him and he just pulled it at the right time, So I think he's still Figuring out The when the first reach, not there. Now we go off script. Now I still go off script, meaning, stay alive as a thrower, and then just tuck it and run. And he did tuck it and run one time. Jimmy had a good run by the way earlier and that first drive, which was a good one for him. One FT. First It was textbook, so I I don't I don't think trace quite ready to play. Yet, but I think it's going to be interesting to see how they divvy up playing time for this third game against the Raiders, and they're treating this week what we thought and Kyle said it yesterday when he met the media. This is like a game week. Came in yesterday. The players after playing on Sunday, Shorty McCabe, Get all you know, you know, as far as therapy and in the work and from their body skin today off Tuesday's day off in the NFL go back to work Wednesday Thursday Friday, Walk through Saturday, playing Sunday at one o'clock. This is like an NFL week. Perfect. So how will they prepare the players? Uh, you know, maybe they have a little bit of a game plan. It's not like a real NFL week. As far as preparation and install day and all that. I wouldn't think How do they divvy up reps in practice Saturday divvy up, perhaps in the game. I think Jimmy still needs to get sharp, sharper. And then once you close the doors, and he kicked the media out, it's time to get ready for Detroit. How much work do you give Jimmy? Because you're trying to keep Jimmy sharp. But you're also going to develop tray, which is an interesting You know, you got a lot of juggling acts to get this quarterback room up to speed so It's interesting, but I'm not surprised by by Steve because he he does embrace the running quarterback, and I think he must think damn Mom and dad. I love you. But I was born like 30 or 40 years too early. Could you imagine Steve Young was in the game today? This is this whole game is made for him. Yeah. What do you think of Steve Young's comments He's advocating for Trey Lance, he says. If it's close, you got to start the guy. The more dynamic guy, the guy with more upside he is in start Trey Lance Camp 415856 to 74 and 5. 80 weight can be are you know one of the things to that in thinking about this whole thing because the camp is always with Alex Smith and I was looking at Alex's final year. In Kansas City, and I think the difference is because I would. I'd like to sit Trey Lance and you and I have talked about this a million times. But Jimmy hasn't been great. Well, his last year in Kansas City, Alex Smith completed 67 a half percent of his passes. 26 touchdowns, five interceptions. Career high quarterback rating of one of 47 career highs in yards per attempt yards for completion and even in the playoff game. In that year. Alex Smith was great. He was 24 33 completed, 73% was past its two touchdowns. No interceptions of QB rating 1 16 Alex Smith was in his play in the playoffs that year, John I think they played the Colts and then then the culture, the Andrew lock back and forth game. Yeah, I think so. I think his numbers were better in that game. He threw for just two touchdowns in that game member and throw off like for 400 yards in that game. Maybe it was. You know what? You're right. 2015 Different year. Yeah. Okay, so, But my point is, is that Alex Smith was in the league 12 years He was established. He was a really top in quarterback. People didn't like it. They couldn't push it down the field. That's why Kansas City went after pack from homes. I completely get it. My point is, is that Jimmy is I'm watching Jimmy and and maybe in this final preseason game like you said, because he's going to get more time than just a series. Now we did get a 15 play series. Which is why, as you said yesterday, Cattle didn't bring him back. But where the comp falls short to me is Alex Smith was an established high end quarterback in the NFL at that point, and I understand why they replaced them with Patrick Holmes. And obviously it's worked out. Well, I would like Trey Lance to sit which is not usually like me. I want the upside guy I want the flashy guy. But I see the rawness and Trey Lance, and I think he can make a lot of mistakes That would put the defense a really good defense in some bad spots and lose some games. But Jimmy just hasn't wowed me. And that's why I'm sitting here in the middle gone because I just haven't seen it from Jimmy and I wish I would Yeah. I mean, I remember Alex vividly that year, and he did. He tried. He incorporated his lower body a lot more that you've got to get more and almost like he's an outfielder Crow happen to get to throw and just be more dynamic, throwing it down the field. I think a lot of it was my home. He's coming in a camp and just, you know. Wow. Wow. But he was, I would say. Trey, even though we only played the 17 games at North Dakota State. And, uh, you know, it's uh Patrick played more in Texas A and M. Uh, ledge Tray may be more ready to play right now that Mahomes was Mahomes was reckless where he held the ball. He would hold the ball low. He just He was a reckless you know, just is he had more to to do as far as coaching him up with my cats, Kavika and Nagy and obviously Andy.
KNBR The Sports Leader
"john beck" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader
"The guy works his ass off. So there's going to be a time that he's the quarterback of this team. Obviously, it's just not the time yet, but it was. It was the opposite of his game against Kansas City. When he started hot and then deteriorated. This one. He started slow. And then got hot and it was a good note to get him out of the game in the last passing through. John was a touchdown pass to Benjamin. Yeah, let them feel good about himself. Great thoughts on the tax line so far four and 5, 88, 5, 67 4 and five Anyway can be our We'll get to those Coming up next. Then Chris Peterman will join us at 11 o'clock. Um I think you hit it right on the head is that when Kyle after the game, he's not going to tell Detroit who's going to start, But Jimmy is the starter and everybody gets all worked up about it, and you talked about it. It's just he's just incredibly raw. And the mistakes he makes in the fastballs he throws and I was, you know, I was encouraged by obviously hit seven of his final eight. Like You said that great throw to To Benjamin, in which he looked often He did have to drill that ball in there because he had to get it between some guys. But the thing I kept thinking as I was watching this game as I hope he's not Kaepernick in the way that he just doesn't have touch on the football, and he showed it later. But like you said, there are throws and this just comes with experience and shows his lack of experience. There are throws your feather their stories. You gotta touch. There's throws. You gotta drill. They all are not fastballs. And it reminds me of the picture who comes up from the minor leagues and thinks he has to throw 100 by everybody. And then he starts to realize mix little Greg Maddux in there. Mitchell off speed, Get him off balance. You've got to become a quarterback, not just a flamethrower. He's got a long way to go. I like the kid. I like that. He had a couple of runs. I like the the two point conversion run that got taken off the board. You can see the talent. You can see the flashes. But he's just not near, uh, polished enough at this point, because this is a football team that's ready to win now, and those turnovers will kill you in the game. He's just number go yet, but there's I mean, you could splash right back. There's a theory. You know, you just let them go and they're not going to do that. Or else Jimmy would be off the roster already, and Julio Jones would be a 49 ers. So you're not going to do that? But, uh, you know, he just he did not have a lot of snaps in college. Just one year the 17 starts, but he didn't have a lot of throws in college and as far as Kaepernick He's a much better thrower. The football and Colin Kaepernick ever was. Talent powered everything that this guy I watched every throw that he had in college. And there weren't that many to watch. But he showed a lot of traction throws. There were a lot of touch throws. I'm a little surprised. There was tremendous inaccuracy on throws in college, where he would just throw the ball purely out of bounds is like what was that? But, uh, in ms guys on post routes, and then they come back and call the same damn play again and he hit it right and perfect stride, but he showed he has touched I think he's just pressing and he's gripping and ripping it. You know, John Elway was a rookie data problem in Denver, where guys couldn't catch his his ball and obviously always one of the greatest throwers in history of football. And Kyle said. There's going to be this guy is going to put more heat on the ball. His velocity is way hotter than Jimmy's. So you've got to catch the ball. You got to get used to that. Or does get wide receivers that can catch it. So, Brandon, are you Get on, Get on the jugs. George cables on the jugs every single day after practice, get on the jugs and turn it up to lance velocity and catch the ball. But he's he's got all that It's just he's he's a little Overly amped. I was talking to Daniel Jeremiah last night, as does charges radio about Justin Herbert. I'm like, Why? Why didn't he go number one and at least why didn't he go number five? And they said, Yeah, you know, he didn't test as well. He's an introvert and all that blah, blah, blah, but as a thrower, the football going back to his Oregon tape. He was trying to be too precise and they brought him to work out with Matt Ryan. This is after Matt Ryan was already he's working with John Beck, our friend, and it was after Matt Ryan was already an M V. P in the league, and he had like they was and and Herbert just watched like he threw the ball 64 times that day in a workout. And he said, How many of those throws do you think we're good throws and he said, probably 16 of them. This is Herbert talking about Matt Ryan. And they're like exactly. You don't have to make them perfect every single time. You're going to miss throws just, you know, get them on time and on target, and it seemed to settle Herbert down. Where I think traces trying to be too perfect. And he's trying to. He's trying to these windows are closing so fast, so I got to get out there now. And he's using that fastball. He will He will show up touch. Look at that when he was rolling, too, was left on the move. Throw to Richie James. That's a hard throw. Really hard rolling to your left, so he has every club in the bag. He is not just a driver there. He has the throws. She's just got to settle down. And let the you know the the His dexterity played through because right now he's just gripping it a little bit on some of these throws, but at the same token, you know Jimmy's got to sharpen up a little bit. And I you know, you can blame you for not getting that ball. That ball was too high. Over the middle, and that's the kind of throw you just can't make. And that frustrates the head coach, Whether it's the young guy, and you can say Well, he's got you know as a played. Jim has been in the league long enough. And is Jimmy's been in this offense long enough not to make mistakes like that. So There's no lack of ability here. He's a way better throw than Colin Kaepernick ever was mechanically. Kaepernick just tried to power the ball. He's also a much better runner than Kaepernick ever was straight line speed Kaepernick when he got running. Could run. Well, This guy is a great runner of the football there Times, John. Obviously, the two point conversion was exciting, but there are times he's reluctant to use his legs and it's not coming from the coaching staff if he wants to get out and run run. But he is there were a couple of times where he took a sack yesterday, and he's looking behind him where just just tuck it and run there..
Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ
"john beck" Discussed on Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ
"The goodyear hotline shane jordan cornet filling in for the guys. This morning. yes we are in new york as cheese was just telling us talking a lot about aaron rodgers but nonetheless all thirty two teams at this point jay have reported to or been at training camp and so the unofficial start to the season is officially underway. But we are going to go to the jets because somehow someway the jets always find themselves in the news for not the right reasons and it is continuing this morning. Quarterback wilson remains unsigned as the jets. Open training camp today tomorrow. Is the first practice for the jets. And there's an issue here. Essentially with zach wilson. He's in southern california based on his instagram story. Training probably with his kelly based quarterback coach john beck. The two sides are haggling over contract details. Essentially which has offset language in it. espn's rich demeaning said discussions over the offset. Language could be the reason why wilson has yet not yet signed with the jets. Such language would allow the jets to recoup some money if they cut wilson before the end of his four-year contracts. Now there should be noted that the jets typically require this in all of their contracts. And so i ask you. Training camp is starting their rookie. Quarterback's on the other side of the country. Is this kind of a bad luck. It's a bad look. It's a tough situation. And you hope it can say previous history has shown that this gets a little dicey but ultimately the jets have been able to figure it out when push comes to shove. It's a big deal because robert saleh and this was something he was asked about early on was kinda. Roll the dice without having a veteran backup. Qb their new york and that not to not have one is now really an issue because this team with camp starting looks to us ernie stewart with a new coaching staff. And get healthy and offense and they've got pieces one now the first team reps. If you don't get zack in there. We'll go to. James morgan and mike white. What about james morgan. And mike. What nothing and you know with his teammates. They probably to know nothing about james or mike so this becomes somewhat of an issue if it doesn't get resolved because naturally this is your franchise guy but there's no veteran presence in the meantime there's no okay. Well at least we'll get off to a right. Start with guys who know and then we can get zack in here. You need zach their day one because he is your day one guy as we talk about trae lance justin fields. There's other guys. They're they're gonna lean on those other guys. These guys will get the chance. Later on wilson zack's good to be the guy so he needs to be in camp. He needs to get acclimated a big time talent but needs to get acclimated with his teammates immediately. Agree with all you just said. Also this is the third time in four years a jets first round pick is remained unsigned just days before training camp also. According to rich amini again they are squabbling over offset language. Those are his words not mine quarterback. Trevor lawrence has no offsets. Justin fields has no offsets for the bulk of his money. The jets always do deals with offsets and that is likely the hold up. So what does this tell me. Jets get rid of the offsets in the contracts. You're signing for your working quarterbacks. This is happening year after year. Clearly this is a problem time after time. Apparently stop it like there's always issues with the jets. That are fixable problems like if this is. What's holding your rookie quarterback who has never played a down in the national football league to not be at training camp. Get rid of it and move on so you can get the rookie quarterback established with his team so we can build some chemistry and start working towards some ws in your future. I'm sick of the nonsense with the jets. It's year after year. There's always something there's always some sort of problem. It's stupid like get rid of this language. None of these other rookie quarterbacks have it why do you. You make phenomenal point and those taxes jersey new york area. They no joke. So you don't want to mess with any other language guaranteed money and you also don't want to get off on the wrong foot knowing what we know about this league as much of the news today zeman dominated by aaron rodgers. You want to from day one. Treat your franchise quarterback like somebody who had any moment could turn and walk now. It's a rookie contract. He'll be under wilson assuming good sign but when that next contract comes around you want some equity you wanna relationship built in. That's all to a good start. This is a bad look. Because they're on both sides because he's being nickel and dime with something in a language that has had Previous strap picks about issue with so as you look at it. I'm thinking. Hey the bengals did. Right by joe borough went and to the guy he wanted. Jamaa chase We've seen what's happened with russell wilson. When he felt slighted out there we see and aaron rodgers. Tom brady was about being slighted. Probably not just new scenery but guys are gonna remember stuff. They're going to have a memory and so in this kind of situation you would hope the jets figure this out. This doesn't linger and ultimate because there is no presence at the backup position for the jets at you. You're probably like me where you believe. Wilson is going to be a heck of a player right Yeah that remains to be seen for me. What i do know is he's going to be the week one starter and so all. This nonsense is just delaying the inevitable. Which is delaying the fact that he needs to get acclimated with his team and he needs to get situated as a week one starter. Who has a lot of stuff to do a special amount of time absolutely especially because of what the jets were last year. I think they were able to get him in the first but you know what they started to do. Some things and we're still competitive down the stretch last year. But you're wiping clean and you're starting a new c. Don't want anything problematic. You don't want anything that's like you don't want any negative news. You want a fresh start. You wanna come. In zack's our guy coach salazar guy. We are healthy. We are ready to make moves to put all that behind us. This is not that they need to get this result okay in two thousand eighteen darnold representatives. Sam darnold that has had an issue with not just offsets but also language that will allow that would have allowed the jets to void guaranteed money if they were fined by the nfl. Okay eventually the jets took the language out of the deal. Darnold did agree to have offsets in his deal and there was also a fight over how his signing bonus would be paid again chaos like again with the contract. Chaos teams can defer payments darnold. Got all of his twenty million and so on and so forth again though. Why do we keep doing this year after year. Like there's all these disagreements and this isn't a disagreement right out of the gates. Training camp opens today like teams report. Today why are we still having these kinds of discussions. This is what perturbs me about about the jets like. It's just always last minute. Not necessarily get to the bottom of it and move on. There is no tougher position for work to do. There's no tougher position for a rookie to adjust to then a rookie stepping into the quarterback position in new york city in new york city with the with all eyes on him because again. There is no backup quarterback there. There's no other decision when you say he's going to be the day one quarterback. I know you are totally against like most of starting a rookie quarterback but when james morgan and mike white are the other options there. They've made the declarative statement. There with these jets. Zack's our guy zack's playing week one. So if that's the case this guy it's imperative you get this figured out. He can't miss a second of the information he needs a soak up and the rhythm and the connection. He needs to develop with this. It is essential and there needs to be a sense of urgency and handling it..
NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks
"john beck" Discussed on NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks
"Media you recognize the town is just off the charts rare rare physical specimen to throw at plenty of time. Sometimes you think supernatural with the eleventh pick in the two thousand hundred twenty one. Nfl draft the mice. Icago bear select justin field quarterback ohio state. Everyone it's daniel jeremiah from move the sticks and i'm bucky brooks and this is just feels three sixty buck. I know bears fans are fired up. I don't know that seen this fan base this excited in quite some time. They've got themselves new quarterback. And i think we can say he's got the superstar potential here in justin feels. He absolutely has superstar potential. But we're gonna talk. Some guys who have spotted at potential very early in justin feels lifetime where they've seen really developed from a guy who was kind of under underrated prospect of becoming one of the top prospects as a high school quarterback to have success. Not only a joy to begin at ohio state to being a guy that was taken at the top of the board. Ron veal mad dickman. Justin feels high school football coach at harrison high ron day trend deal for coach. Justin feels that elite eleven. John beck who coached him doing their pre-draft process Jk dobbins a couple of his teammates all provide perspective on justin feels. Who was who could be the next level. No doubt and when we talk about him as a player before we get into these conversations With these great folks that know him at his has as anybody buck. I think the sky's the limit. We talk about everything you can do. You talk about the ability to create plays talking about his ability on design quarterback runs. You talk about him in the pocket to deliver the ball accurately at all three levels. Big time arm strength My only knock on him For for really. It's kind of nitpicking. Right is just playing with a little more urgency right. Let's just speed up. Let's crank it up a little bit and get going can be a little bit delivered at times but mom excited for him. I think that's that's fixable. And if he does get that going and picks up the place beat a little bit watch out watch out here a tremendous amount of potentially we've seen that potential play out at times those who have studied him..
NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks
"john beck" Discussed on NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks
"And now move the sticks with daniel jeremiah and bucky brooks. What's up everybody. Welcome to move the sticks presented by castrol edge. Dj back with you. How you doing man man. I'm good. I can't complain. It's always fun time as we get closer and closer to address it is a busy time To say the least we've been grinding away here. I think if you turn on the television. There's a chance you're going to see one if not both of us this point time in in the year cranking out content for you as well on nfl dot com and more importantly we get to have these chats here together on. Move the sticks Today we got kind of a shorter episode But it's gonna feature a conversation with i really. I would say a rising star in the football world in terms of developing the most important position. Yeah john back has been a fascinating to watch You know having had the opportunity to talk to him. I think one thing. That's interesting for me is i. Scouted him i remember he was at. Byu i remember going through their Before he embarked on a nice solid. Nfl career watching them. Play the quarterback position. He is now taking all that knowledge expertise. And he's now pouring into young quarterbacks and we will talk about the guys. He's currently training. Zack wilson and justin feels and some others. He is really helping. These guys not only work on their mechanics but learn how to play the game. So i'm fascinated here this conversation. You just heat it up. Beautifully here. i've since this conversation at a chance to talk with john on the phone so i'm excited to listen to this for the first time because i am sure the same questions that you did But one of the more fascinating guys when it comes to the quarterback position is john back. So here's what the up and coming. Let's throw it on a quarterback guru. Amen you guys obviously have loaded class. You have a of good quarterback prospects to get you. But i want wanna talk to you about making the transition from being a former. Nfl quarterback to now being a quarterback trainer. How did you go along that path. Will you know when when you play quarterback. It's obviously because you love the position you love the investment of time sacrifice. She loved just the crap that goes into trying to become the best player you can be and so it was an easy transition for quite frankly i you know. Of course there's nothing like playing the game. There's nothing like being the guy out there But i think the second best thing is helping the guys that are out there and kind of taking my experiences that i've had and then using that to help them be the best they can be..
NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks
"john beck" Discussed on NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks
"Is no difference in those who can't do it and those who want to at least get who can't do it. I'm gonna go to war within if he's going to give me everything that has 'cause i can work around some of these deficiencies the guys. They won't do it. There's no changing it. They are where they are. And i think that's the lesson to be learned from isaiah wilson. Some of the other guys that have founded in flop all right. Let's let's get some quarterback team fits or an article on this. I'm going to rip these off. We want to spend a ton of time here but just tell me what stands out to you. I'll rip through them here. Trevor lawrence is still to the jags man. They've been doing a lot of homework on. Zach wilson i. I don't think it's one hundred percent lock that maybe a rails to say ninety five. Maybe there's a five percent chance that wilson could cross pass before the finish line. But i'd still say trevor lawrence. Jags zack wilson. For the reasons. We've always mentioned on here. Makes the most sense for the jets trade lance I have falcons at four. Make the most sense. But i think that three spot could legitimately be a good trade opportunity for summit. Volt up there to go get lance. I had a chance to meet with him on the weekend. He was in town. He's working with john beck. So i had an opportunity to go spend some time with trae lance. He's impressive. We've visited with them on the show. I talked to on the phone before beginning chance. Sit down there with him in and see him face to face. He's going if he he's already had some but he's going to knock these meetings out of the park. He's so highly intelligent and understands it for twenty year old kid who maybe not all there yet is a player yet man. It's hard not to buy the kid buck. I think you have the body kit. Here's also what would like people to do when it comes to the trae lance evaluation. Wipe away what happened with carson. Wentz this year and go all the way back to how we celebrate a carson wentz because of things that the North dakota state asked a quarterback to do one of the reasons it was easy to fall in love with carson. Wentz is not only the talent that he displayed. But we watched a tape. North dakota state asked a quarterback to do things that we ask. Quarterbacks do on sundays multiple checks. Can you pass protection. Can you go from under center in shotgun. Can you do a variety of things so that your tool belt is is full..