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Borne The Battle #210: Tony Temerario  9/11 Responder, Green Beret, AT&T Executive

Borne the Battle

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Borne The Battle #210: Tony Temerario 9/11 Responder, Green Beret, AT&T Executive

"Monday? September seventh. Two Thousand Twenty This is borne the battle. Brought to you by the department better. Affairs. The, podcast focuses on aspiring better stores and puts a highly unimportant resources, offices and benefits for our veterans. I am host. Marine Corps veteran tenor ISKRA. This is. Barely because it's Friday. But this is the week of nine eleven. Just like last year when we had very impact stories for our nine eleven episode. Encourage you to go back and listen to them. Most notable. We had John Baxter. Who is an Air Force veteran? and has been the flight surgeon for multiple secretary defenses. He was in uniform on September eleventh two, thousand and one in the Pentagon. But just like last year John this year we have some very. Very impactful stories. For my generation, this is a somber week because almost every one of us can remember events. Vividly. From September eleventh, two, thousand and one. Whether, it was like myself we were in high school. And watching the television with with our teachers. In College, in ROTC, like some of our previous guests. Already in the military and serving. Or maybe you were a spouse. Maybe you're the child of a service member. Or maybe you're not an, we'll never be in the military at all. Maybe your first responder. If you were alive to be aware of current events at that time. You remember that day. Like I've said before it's our generations Pearl Harbor. And that one event has had lasting effects and our nation's military. and. Foreign Policy. All the way up until today. Many many lives. Beyond, just the event. have been altered. And unfortunately extinguished. Due to what happened on September eleventh two thousand one. Reason enough to never forget those events. And the implications. That it laid bear. No reviews. Ratings. We'll get to that next week this week just like we did last year. We're going to focus on the stories of September eleventh two thousand one. Our guest this week was at the Pentagon. On that fateful day. And for days after establishing communications mobility. Center. As the director inclined executive of DOD MOBILITY FOR AT and T.. is also an army reserve and green Beret veteran who deployed many times after. September eleventh. So without further ADO. Here is army veteran. Tony tomorrow enjoy. So Tony we're GONNA start this interview with the question that we ask every veteran that comes on borne the battle. Where and when did you decide to join the service? was A. Very, Young Age I knew what I wanted to. Growing up a few miles outside of Washington DC. But right on. The river literally my backyard at effective cliff on it so I spent most of my use a run up with my friends. In the Potomac on the Potomac around atomic in their. Streams and marshland than what it lands around that area. Though I loved it I'm growing up. Grayson world to have with the United States army. Also had the benefit of having to World War Two combat veterans as parents. Interesting. And they. And their lights. A. They raise meeting They're both in the navy and. And they raised me with great respect for military and that's what I wanted to do. Very. Good. Very good. So what year did you join Tony did you join the service. Ninety three. Ninety three. Former Green Beret talk about some of the places you've been some the mission objectives that you that you did in the nineties early two, thousand, two, thousand. Had honor of serving our country Enough Ghanistan. And? I really, I really enjoy that country as well. I got to see some. Some of the great thing is that country had to offer I also saw some of the darker things, but it's a it's a beautiful country in the people culture. There's is unique unique. In this world. What was what was your most memorable moment in that country? That's a tough one to answer. I. I. Remember there's a lot of things that I remember. I remember the video, the mostly. And the mountains incredible views cuddles stars at night are. Emblematic of the the American flag which. WE'LL TALK A. The the you know I can remember being watching the sunrise. Emissions overlooking. Villages that we can see the village coming to life in the morning. Oh women gathering water Amazing images. Got You. While you were in. Either give me a best friend or your greatest mentor. While I was in the service best friend or greatest until. I. I had. I was on on on a team and we were all very good friend some. Really might my inspiration for a long for a long time? You're on a team. You're you're lucky if you can stay on one for a long time I was and. All of those you may I had memories that we shared. As part of that brotherhood. remained firm with me. Now I would answer your question with my team members. Definitely my team members God, you any names you WanNa, you wanNA share, you just go with first names if you want. I. Will Tell You that I e member of this. I will I will share with you. And the reason that I wanted to carry the load organization and who I carry the load for certain. Blamed Brian would. He was our MAC and key. He did anything for everybody his medic he's always there to help. When he was On Our Board operator operating, base in our in our camp. He ran around the F. O. B. Making friends with somebody getting to know everybody enjoys trading bartering offer things teaming always bringing things back to us that we just had to have in his mind he trained us to he's he was former marine. reports. After his. The Marine Corps of course sniper. So he trained us. At Blackwater instructor when Blackwater was known as Blackwater. And he trained US on tactics. Techniques procedures medical way the way behind the gun he's willing to train anyone especially the long gun. He really was. Someone who squeezed the marrow out of life and. The Brian would stories is is a great one. He. Doesn't sound like your typical medic or. Like there was a lot of training behind him. I'm looking at my finger right now. That's the way. He was. His spirit passed on the field of battle. In my arms. So I carry him with me in in in the in memory physically in in my heart. All the time. How? Tough standing. he mentioned carry the load I walked a about a year ago you know the year before we get Talk to me about carrying the load What it means to you. Sure. Yes. It was an honor to be asked to be an ambassador for the Carrizo era, the load. And I'm a member of eighteen veterans veterans organization as well. and. I'm proud of our partnership with eighteen CNN and the carry limitation. One of the things that struck me most about. Jerry was a logo of the soldier buddy carrying his fallen comrade. and. You know. I. Am the heavy. The images of heavy rock. And As retired army worn infantry. Special Forces of. You and I both know we spent a lot of arm with Iraq are back And Having to honor. Honor. Serve our country. We carried our our fallen on off the field of battle. After the battle. With every day. He also some of the some of the great things that the reload on a raised when five point million dollars since. Two thousand eleven to raise awareness for. Those who suffer fights routes educate our nation's us about servants, sacrifice and one of those programs. Me The most? was carried the flag to flag program yes. Stephen Holly and Todd voting the they've both been guests here on a or in the battle and. Because NCA is a partner with carry load as well and part of the part of the walks that they do every you know every may usually is usually through national cemeteries. That's usually a main part of the a lot of the rallies are. So yeah, if anybody wants to check that out, that's back in the archives back in episode one, forty, three and one, sixty one. Rickwood, did you get out? I retired in in two, thousand, four hundred. Twenty Fourteen Gotcha Gotcha now, you're now the AT and T. Director Client executive for at and T. Mobile's IOT operations. Team support the public sector in you're also a member of the at and T. Veteran's group. just like government Tony. That's that's a long title Flash. I think the easiest later remember it as a director of client executive Very good Wha what does that mean I? In the sales leader in sales organization and I house. I had the benefit of. Starting my career. Washington DC. Market to open in the United States I was in a sales pitch I was lucky enough. To, be able to contribute to the consumer corporate and government sales distribution model. In the mid to late nineteen nineties seven singular. And now eighteen T-. but that's that is. That's what I. That's what I do. Now I was a sales role and then oh Was Floyd my back into a sales old after I. came out in a minute operations role right now, Gotcha. So are you are you? Are you in a reserve unit where we we active at some point? I was in the reserves it. I've been on reserve my career, my entire career except for the Times that I was at Gotcha in those nets on active duty on during deployments. Training I was wondering because you know this is the nine eleven episode of borne the battle. And you have a story about nine eleven but you also talked about being in the service link ninety, three to two, thousand, fourteen. So I was just Kinda. Kinda. Curious. It's kind of it's kind of fun you mentioned that. Really make ten. To careers and on saying. Interest. That's the way to look at it. Yeah, abso. Absolutely. No I I was just didn't i. didn't I was trying to put into together. Now this is the nine eleven episode of borne the battle last year we had. John. Baxter, who is the flight surgeon for the Secretary of Defense who was in uniform nine eleven until the very heroin terrel of leading recovering evacuation teams before any helicopters landed or any anti showed up but you were also at the Pentagon on that on that very same day working with first responders as well. Tony. CAN YOU RUN Through that entire day for me. Yes I can and It helps to have a little setup so that that we understand what was happening prior to the attack on the Pentagon you sir that we might team government team. It's just good fortune to be awarded a large federal contract for all the DOD, mobility. Mobility. Devices in. Washington DC with the defense telecommunication services. Washington. And that's what brought us the Pentagon on nine eleven and ends up the day started I remember the way the day started it was it was a beautiful bright. Morning. In The Washington DC area, we just returned from Labor Day vacations. We reading into our senior staff meeting. I I have to say that Y we were a cellular carrier. We also were distribute distributor were a little mobile device of Rim moby texts devices alone. Just a little pager. They don't make them any don't make them anymore, but they played a critical old of for us. Back in the day pages were printed. That's right. Everybody had one as we went into the meeting, some precede a a a message on their pager that that plane as. The World Trade Center this is a nine am meeting. So we weren't sure what was what was going on now that was the north tower. American Airlines flight. Eleven in about ten minutes the gentleman interrupted us again let us know that. He announced that another plane at. The World Trade? Center. I'm as we know now. South Tower. UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT SEVENTY FIVE And and while we impatiently waited for farm meeting to end. Saying Gentleman announced that another plane Ted. On. American Airlines flight seventy. So the energy in the room was was was. at that time in this world in action after that so. Where were you at that time Not The Pentagon? No was in was in our we were in our offices. For offices in Maryland. Okay and that's That's where we had our operations in more leadership was. So As we swirled in Ashen. Sort everybody else. And everyone at that moment in time in a panic. Washington DC area press the send button on their cell phone. At the same time. And, then our network blocked and communication around that area was severely impacted. Our network if are not like today's networks mobility networks. It was not designed for the little usage. We saw that a whatsoever I think if I remember correctly this office building. Office building. and. our Swish was either cylinder basement of that building or had just moved out. Our programming Brougham was in office building. In in. Maryland Mile. So while we couldn't communicate with. We could gene kate with each other with our mobitex pagers our customers. And our network teen really struggled to try to get our network. but it was does not much. They can do when everyone is hitting out of the city at the same time we're trying to. Add Circuit. So it was a very difficult day for our network team, but our sales teams could get calls they were fielding massing complaints. The only. Crisis like this for me. army training took over and had to get accountability. Might people make sure they have their equipment? On Sheriff was mentioning Table and we had to employee's. That we're supposed to be at the Pentagon that morning for a meeting. DSW and we had. We confirmed layer that the meeting been canceled and honest they were not there. there's a million stories like that. One is ours that was something close to that is a close call that I think almost thankful. Sorely afterwards. Shortly after that, my federal team started receiving requests from the agency was maintaining the parameter security around the Pentagon was later in. That morning, a needed Hundred or X. number of hundred cell phones by three. PM, that day to help the rescue and recovery effort at anti-gun and what was happening is that those at the scene? Were having difficulty communicating with the other agencies Arlington fire, in communicate with Pentagon protection forces. In this agency needed communicate with who is coming in and outside the primer something all access. They were been needed open. They couldn't talk. You know it's funny. John John John during his evacuation talked about that talked about the difficult and communication. Yes. Right and we were on the other end trying to facilitate solutions. So. We pulled together an improvised assembly line in our basement. The main people who are up building our heraldic volunteers anyone who could programmer activate a phone for hard at it down in the basement signed numbers. Usual to enter all cones of you to go into A. I remember after. Numbers Devices Program as I remember saying a word encouragement to imparting. Thanks to next we'RE GONNA drive. The devices down to gone until over them And and then later on another manager and I would release them. And remain there overnight minutes Pentagon overnight. Yeah, those that were in the room I think. was I think everybody wanted to to? Felt, like they wanted to do something that I think everybody in. The country. we just wanted to do something to help an. I'm so proud of of that team why when we looked around, we could say on nine eleven we did do something directly support our most valued dot customers when they needed help. Yeah did you did you have a point of contact at the Pentagon or wherever you guys just running down to with cell phones going here's some cell phones Diane Second Dot Com into that. Yes. Agreed Question. Great Question. Yes I reports or getting Akron not hopeful of. And my manager I broke down a little later. We. We can still see the smoke earning from the Pentagon. We linked up with the Harp Ese down there the agent in charge and were, and we set we were set up on a small card table. about two hundred feet. Directly at the crash site. And we watched the events unfold around us. And the the first thing I remember. going. Down there when I arrive was acrid smell burnt jet till. I wasn't ready for out the is I don't know what I thought to myself at the time. Well, what did you expect? Would you expect this would be like? And then we we. Somberly started our task recording. The first responders who approached our table instead, they needed a device mcchord of their name and phone number so that others could no need to get a hold on, they could reach them. And and We remained on site overnight as we learned that the rescue effort had. Turned into a recovery effort. That was that was really sad moment. The. As a sad moment. For. For for us as well a former executive another. Company that I that I had worked with one of the finest gentlemen I know I'd known at the time and now was on flight seventy seven. So we we watched the events unfold directly in front of us at the crash site. Arlington fire most of this, this is discharged. Now it's nighttime Arlington fires stacking wood planks crisscrossing up to shore up the concrete and steel that had flaps from the building. When the when the plane. Attacked the Pentagon it's did it across the ground? At ground level and it just wiped out. To support underneath the building in the higher floors were at risk of collapsing him. So they sent people inside while we were there but the head to shore building No further. Known. The injured. Armed. In that knows that when inside if it was a horrific horrific site Soon. After that. Mortuary services began their began their grim task I remember seeing the flashing, First Responder Lights everywhere vehicles move back and forth into different positions. There are lots of there were not a lot of people in the area at that point it was it was quiet people talking, no shouting was the somber. Only spoken was insulting tones and I asked the lesion charge. We sponsored US or point of contact I asked him who's who's in charge here. As unseen all this hustle and bustle right now he was in the former army ranger and he said right now no one is. Everyone is just doing what they're supposed to. Fire rescue police. Pentagon. Security forces military. Police. And then, of course, sadly, mortuary services. Yeah. But they couldn't communicate whom we saw that that was our role for that night we we and for the next three weeks. Tainted out devices to first responders, incident commanders. In. This point. At this point. In that in the night. On. An I. I think it was around to a someone, Lord? An American flag. From the top of the Pentagon I, my memory was just appeared. I got the impression. This is my impression that someone who worked at the Pentagon knew where the closest flag was. Ordered to retrieve an ordinate lowered over. Over what was now sacred ground I presume the worked with Alan fired an. Justice, just happening later on in the morning the later on the. Small flag was replaced with a much larger flag. then. You see now the very famous picture with firefighters hanging off the side of undergone. Your many many people who not many people know there were actually two and the. NOPE I had no idea I i. felt like time it was a sign of respect for our fallen. Emblem for resolve to carry on as a country together. At the end of the day. That's what our flag stands for. and. That's why I volunteered for carry the load and that's why the carry the by program. So special because it teaches our young people about symbolism of the flag. Stands for and what it represents. and. And I hope maybe a call to others want to be part of the carry the flag. program. Success for our youth. To meet their local heroes now, I'm not a hero but. I think folks some folks would beg to different whether you're here or not You know you stepped up in a time of need. You know Tony's speak about a very important time in American history you know. And I think it's For The Times that we're living in today. Everyone talks about. Anybody who lived through that time. They, talk about how tragic? September eleventh was. But. How unifying September twelfth was in the same sense. I, agree. I drink hardaway everything was thrown out the window at that at that at that time, you know nothing else mattered except for each other. And Take Care, of one another. I think it's important to never forget that feeling. When we're going through more trying times. I agree with you. You. That day. And that night we knew our lives changed forever. Nothing would be that would never fly. That's. Going to war nothing would be the same lead in the got through was by sticking together looking together in unicating. And be proud of who we are as a country and and I think again, that's emblematic but outside flag replicant. The flag means something to you because of the contacts that you saw it in. I. Think a lot of people. Don't see that today. Well, tell you. It's a good point and as read one about context on imminent, your brain tells you. Eight those kind of. I think. But supposed do it is a? Inch doll thought so that people and express them. The flag. We fought anarchy countries ended that privilege. That's an image that some people may or may not. Recognize when they see it on the flanks, but it's true Fares. Bears. The symbolic reference, the colors of the flight. And I'll also say to one of the schools I went one of the one of the greatest school I went to. A caught us. About the flag and then they said. One of the instructor. So I wear my flag for my heart. And No, one can touch that. It's supposed to be a unified supposed to be the thing that says no matter what. were all this isn't and we need to recognize that. That's right. This is what we. Data after after nine eleven we. Our network team was faced with another challenge, which is proven covers inside a crash sites so we had to. Deploy sell side on wheels on top of bringing the network backup. We deploy a cell site on wheel at the Pentagon. After nine eleven. If in our member, exactly how they managed to do this. But. They did it by getting a crane or a cheering ticker sultans and hung in antenna off of it, and then that's how coverage of the NFL No. Into outside the Pentagon into it shot the is at a restaurant right at the Pentagon from this crane. it was it was craziest thing I've ever seen, but it was 'em again it was it was just a sign of the entrepreneurial Spirit Andrew Spirit on that we're not gonna Let. Anything. In and as a result of the problems that we had. On after nine eleven. Challenges the nine eleven. Commission. math in determined that that. The country needed. A because interoperability lack of interoperability country needed a first responder network. That's when I met was created. And it was headquartered in Regina. And Authority, the first was created. With. A public private partnership when he tinting. On March. March twentieth two, thousand, seventeen. we built our A to build out the first network. Okay. So this was you you. So basically after nine eleven, there was no a no need to have a a first responder network. So if everything else goes down at least. Everybody else can talk within. Different agencies different are in our nation's first responders have we'll have priority and preemption for voice and data calling they'll be able to transmit and receive. Their emergency data on a low band frequency that's dedicated to our first responders, their cars or We'll have the best ability to go have the ability to go through and they won't be locked. They'll be put ahead of our. Normal traffic that's outstanding and that's nationwide. Country is a nationwide network in global global supply for our territories. Are. How like a local fire department and a local small hometown there they're all part of this network how and if not how do they become part of the? No. There's different ways your agency can is. Able to apply and it's all about an application of so it's re review board. By your agency can apply if they're paying for the service of if it's if it's a sprite wants to pay for the services they comply to, for example, volunteer firemen they can apply. And it in go all the way down to who you would find. Responding to an incident and A. Small City. You know expedia traffic. Accident knocked down a telephone pole live power lines, and in the middle of the night, the local our company needs to. Be Part of exit qualify. that was considered a first responder of. So it gets not it's always. A matter of identifying the user and the need. To determine their priority. On the first net network in the Indian activist Application Process Very good. Very good. Okay. put a semi the link when we're done with this conversation so I can put it in the blonde out when we put it on blocks be like application, you know how to submit and all that stuff slow. Thank you for that. Cool. Man. To be able to get it out. It's important. You know it's an incredibly important it is to build a to prioritize first responders in a national crisis and had that that that network that sets incredibly important I think more more first responders in all from all walks all over the country should know so absolutely, no problem. Sorely needed for our honors and and. Dod Military. Civilian agencies as. Interesting. Very interesting. Okay now shortly after you started deploying Now were these was your role similar to what you're doing was singular or did you start get into? With your team or did you have a different role on your team? No my my. Heel might. My job on it. is specified every every ODA has say. They. Haven't seen leaders A weapons sergeant senior weapons CAISSONS. Senior Communications Unit indication that was my job. Engineer Sergeant. And then medical. And there is a junior to senior appointment even in the primary mission really the reason that me. Forces with unconventional warfare. Again kind of going around this Monson, their errors in the kind of. And that's what I wanted to do. I wanted to live in the forest and and help people and needed a fight. And it was kind of like the Peace Corps with guns. And that. It's a great mission. And very independent you are you Poli with little to? No? Forte sustainable for a very, very long time. And that takes a certain breed of person to be able to operate. In an environment like that and I liked that type I, I liked being around those types of soldiers. People that are just one of a kind super achievers in many aspects of their lives and what they're passionate about and and these soldiers were passionate about serving our country and about serving at the best way they knew how it sounds like you miss it Tony. A little bit high, I do I miss I, miss some of it. I. Think though that there is a time. When we all know it's you can get to hang up your spurs and. I think at that time. And I. GOTTA. This No. Absolutely. Absolutely. I. Always tell people you. You'll. You'll always know. But as you know whether you do for years while they do thirty years, you'll always know you also need to know what the next step is going to be. You also need to continuously prepare for that. How how, how, how, how were you able to prepare for your That's a good segue tennis really the question and I would say. Two things one. came. Off Deployment back into civilian life a lot. So the transition out of the military to civilian was to me was Yeah. I feel like reserves. Kinda. Already had that down compared to attack. I do to a degree and they bring lots of battle to her siblings and adult so. A lot of US brought A. Security. Backgrounds contracting background but the medical backgrounds uncommon for up. one of our medics to be a trauma pa the and and then on Odia. Yeah and you you had an extensive. BACKGROUND POWER AT and T. with me wherever I went. On. and. But I wanted to say though that it was part of that is also the the the duty in the honor of. partisan the do for veterans. and. That's also a recovery step or or a translation stuff but that's also part of. Multiple Tours for our our soldiers. Sometimes he you. You can take advantage should take advantage of the VA programs, my experiences with the VA, the event and to ask. The health be telehealth is good as I've had very good experiences and I think part of that process of coming out. A military after. To so many deployments, many more than I've ever done. Multiple deployments for yourself. Plus Nine Eleven In what ways has the BA you? Is it's good to be able to talk to a medical professional who knows how to speak the soldiers. I'm saying soldiers. Sailors airmen. Marines. At Bill of the Marines. I will say you asked me to my best friends were every single one of us. Marines. Including some of the members of my team but. I think having that. Communication level being to understand if if I talk about. Come, talking to another veteran about a type of jungle chuckled tunein or two. We can relate. We can talk we all know what that is and and and certain things It's not. That, it's not proper to certain things that some veterans don't WanNa talk about. And He has down there they just. They know what to say and what not to say I think it's I. Think it's A great, organization. Because, he offer professional services and they do it in a way that is familiar to catch. The My. Gotcha. If you were to suggest one service at the Va, you've taken advantage of from the Va. What would it be? Behavioral searches and some of the services literate to some of the comments. I felt like. I felt that they were on the cutting edge of of. Of Mental Health. At the time. I don't believe in a stringent. Very good. So. Tony. You know. It's twenty twenty. What is one thing you learned in service? That you carry with you today. Learn Listen and failed. Lesson I learned was. Timing might leadership rush public I might have Michael Manage your of felt like maybe soldiers A. kind of in their world a little bit too much light. John Masters I realized that. My job is to make sure that this person put that parachute on right and when they go out of that airplane, it's GonNa work and that was my job and to me that was that was pretty much. The the role that that. I look at for any leader to. independent take care of you. That you can dig your mission. S. That's basic NCO NCO academies. Carrier and carrier personnel. Officer our mission. Team I. In first mission, always I ticked up. Every ever since I learned at, take early every day in this my leadership style in whatever I do. VIRGA. We've already talked about one. Is there. A veteran nonprofit or or an individual whom you've worked with. Or had experienced with whom you'd like to mention. You know. I I'll. To Seventeen veterans imitation, you don't need to work for eighteen to be a member, the goal of the organization that is to. Raise. An. Within A. So helps helps crossed that military civilian divide within your organization yes. What sounds like? Very. Good. Very good. Very good. Tony. We've covered a lot of ground man. Is there anything else that that I might have missed? That you think is important share listeners. I was saying surround yourself with the most positive healthy. Lifestyle. People Environments. Boston. Unhealthy physical, mental spiritual. Or overthink Tony for taking the time to sit down and talk with us. For more information on Tony, you can find his bio at carry the load dot org and go to their ambassadors page. Are. Born. The battle are in the week was selected from our veteran of the day program. Everyday. Our team honors a veteran on blogs va dot Gov and on all of our social media platforms. You can nominate a veteran yourself. By senator email to new media at va DOT GOV. Rick. Risk ORLA I hope I'm saying that right? Was Born hail. Cornwall. United Kingdom On May twenty. Seventh. Nineteen, thirty, nine. And Nineteen, Fifty, seven, he joined the British Army. Where he trained as a paratrooper before serving with an intelligence unit in Cyprus from nineteen, Fifty, seven to nineteen sixty. From Ninety six to nine, hundred, sixty, three, he served with northern Rhodesia police as a paramilitary police inspector. Shortly after Rick moved to Brooklyn New York and in nineteen sixty three, he joined the US Army and attended basic training at Fort Dix. Then officer candidate school, and then airborne training forbidding. He was assigned to the second battalion. Seventh Cavalry. Regiment. First Cavalry Division. Rick was then deployed to Vietnam. where he in the nineteen, sixty, five battle of LIA during. Rid collaborated with how more a fellow soldier to write a book about the Vietnam War titled We, were soldiers once in young. which was published in Nineteen ninety-two. The book inspired the two, thousand, two film we were soldiers. And started Mel Gibson and the rule of how more. would later say that he wouldn't see it. All the heroes are dead. He said. After Vietnam. Rick. Went to college at the University of Oklahoma, and Oklahoma City University School of law. He received degrees in creative writing. English and law. He went on to teach criminal justice at the University of South Carolina. Rick, left teaching for a job in corporate security at the world. Trade. Center in New York City in Nineteen eighty-five. That company later became Morgan Stanley. Rick's office was on the forty fourth floor of the South Tower and after the nineteen ninety three. World Trade Center bombing. Rick rant surprise fire drills for Morgan Stanley to empower employees to respond safely in the event of emergency. Tragically. Rick died on September eleventh two. Thousand One. When the Port Authority. Made an announcement over the PA system. Instructing employees stay at their desks right after American Airlines flight eleven struck the north tower. Rick began evacuating his Co. workers. They were in the stairwell will United Flight Airlines one seventy five, hit their tower. Rick began singing corner songs from his youth. Vietnam with his soldiers to calm the crowd. After a successful evacuation more than twenty five, hundred employees rick re entered the building. He was last seen on the tenth floor heading upward. Just before the tower collapsed. His remains have never been found. There's a statue of Rick at Fort Benning Georgia. And a memorial in Cornwall. He is memorialized at the national nine eleven memorial South Pool Panel Sierra Dash forty-six. War was also created in his memory. The recruit school at National. Award by the Department of Homeland Security. And addition he was posthumously inducted into the Oklahoma Military Hall of fame. rix personal awards include the silver. Star. The Purple Heart. And just last year for his actions on September. Eleventh. President trump posthumously awarded rick the presidential citizens medal. For his sacrifice. Army veteran rick risk. ORLA. We honor service. Oh. That's this week's episode. If you yourself would like to nominate borne the battle veteran of the week you can. Just send an email to podcast at va Dot Gov. Include short right up. Unless no way like see him or her as borne the battle veteran of the week. You feel like this podcast episode hit subscribe button or on I tunes spotify Google podcast iheartradio. Pretty, much any pod catching APP, not phone computer tablet or man for more stories on veterans and better benefits. Check out our website blogs dot V. A. Dot Gov. 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Eddie May Have Coronavirus + Bobby's TV Show Update + Brett Eldredge Talking About Love

The Bobby Bones Show

1:38:13 hr | 6 months ago

Eddie May Have Coronavirus + Bobby's TV Show Update + Brett Eldredge Talking About Love

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That's our moms were best friends and we were little so i. just that's why I say Anson. She's my cousin. Thursday or Friday. We'll have run. To you cool. Tuesday song. Tuesday sweater on today by the way already hit Raimondo. Do DEAL! You hear that later, but I'll say. I'll just bit. Best Day of the week. You all know it's my time, so I made a song about today's happens, arrives the lowest number crimes, a super bingo with nine. I don't know how you do your day. This is how I do mine. The Sun comes up. There's a smile on my mouth. Why because I love to? The is the first thing show zoomed this morning and every Tuesday a five spandex on. It's time to head the Y. to. A Joe Way. Housewife's going booze. I'm just talking about. Tuesday must do another verse. It's Tuesday is my recycling on the curb as I drive off Yup. My recycling's on the curve. I mean Fridays are fine, but the casual, but I'm always more productive Tuesday commerce dome after work plans. I got my spray. Tan Drinking Water. Adam kyw, dabbles and Bam Bam. I'm watching C. Span, and then it's two for one at sonic with the coney in each hand I say to. A Joe. Housewife's gone. Just talking by Tuesday Yup Yup to. Brown cal Goes News Day eat some cashing. Day just talking back to. MARDI GRAS on Tuesday. I go to Krav Maga on Tuesday. Playing. pokemon on Tuesday came out on my mom on Tuesday. Poe show the Tuesday edition. Nice to back in the studio because we can do that. Let's look at the draft from yesterday. Why was so dead last in this one? I. Don't remember what you chose, poppinsans. Deposits that's what I get for chasing boats. I have at three percent real housewives, popping zits for yourself and others and then junk food. You finished next to last, amy. People are crazy, but you still you still in it and lunch box wins. With reality TV scrolling social media and shopping at target. So. I won't be sitting out the next week's. They are really embarrassed on that. We're. Losing I don't. Do it I'M GONNA get. Bored with the drafts to be honest with you at this point. We're doing it a while. We move on. But. In the leader. I now me. Morgan lunchbox I'll have seven. Amy has to and Eddie has one. DOSTAL zero. It's all GonNa, get that first win their Raymundo keep trying. Feigin repeat her that all right. Hector dead by the way chicken. He's doing good I haven't seen him since I got back, but I think that we're GONNA be able to start doing outside visits touching him no socially. Dinosaur, honestly listen. I don't know I. Don't know I. Don't think so. Nobody's told me that that's the case I do. See It online I'm like Oh. That's cute, but now. I just WANNA do whatever to keep him in all the other residents safe so They're starting to implement a program where they're gonNA. Let us be outdoors with him but I I. Don't know all the rules yet, but there's going to be rules. It's very like a specific time. That we have to book it, so we'll see I'm I'm hoping to get on the schedule for that soon 'cause. I mean he's GonNa. Be So excited. Yes so I'll give you posted on that. Thanks for asking you about him. He's doing. Nobody, leave your house or your family. They're all GONNA man. They're out. They left in the last week. And so it's just the wife me and two kids, and does it feel like it's calm? Now feel so quiet. We're just like wow, so we're because there was nothing but screaming and yelling and. You like it. Like gone well, yeah, I mean. It's nice to get back and have some quiet meal to take naps and be able to relax a little bit. When there's that many there. You can't nap and you can't relax. The only good thing was is whenever the kids would cry. I could sleep in because all grandma and GRANDPA here. They'll just take care of that. Did they absolutely was that new to you guys to have them around? Yeah, because we haven't had any help, so it's just it's weird having help, and so it's like Oh, man. I don't want to get out of bed. You guys handle that. And where they said to go. Yeah, they drive. They drove. Yeah, they drove. They rented a minivan and pack them packed everybody in the car and drive and man. I. Hate Road trip in you. I don't mind it. And sign. The here's a I. Do the same thing on road trips that I do at movies. Get a bunch of snacks and ate them right away. And then ninety four percent of the trump I'm like had snacks, and then I, stopped at a gas station, and by stupid gas station. Good snacks and they're not good for you like I. Buy good snacks may not taste good for you. Leaders eat them on like three minutes. And then I'm so stupid, but I do. I've been on this my whole life. Eventually. You'd have to learn to not do it. Frustrating? Frustrating frustrate me. All Right? We're going to go a today show. Interview beginning of this. Can we do that? 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I just feel like a grown up a little bit, you know. Tapping into those emotions a little deeper now you don't have headphones on, but I'm GONNA. Play a clip that was on the show yesterday talking about my favorite songs from your record. And I think even texted you this this crowd, my mind song. This is my jam here. I'm GONNA place you. Need you smart. This. Vote who's real stripped down when we recorded, it was just. Me, and two other guys, and and another guy came in from time to time. and. They were just. It was just drums, sometimes piano and that was it which I love because? I was like Oh. My God that's what I sound like raw felt so organic. Those agreed experience. That's my jam by the way breath records out. This is the first week of it so to stream it. You're GONNA download it. You'RE GONNA. Buy It like do it this week for a big number. Yeah, we liked it didn't delay happy. There was happy. Good and it's a good time to because I think people are looking to feel things right now. because you want to feel good song though there's another go. Yeah, this is the one this good day. This is the track right after that. You. Live coming. In the Sun. Spin. Loud. I got a fee. I. See. I don't ever listen male backwards. I I listened a lot of music, but I rarely listen to full albums, and especially when they come out, because there are so many, but this is like I listened to. That wasn't like five times well, thank you the guy. I'm a I'm a big fan of. Bread Eldridge's here, which is which is pretty cool. You Sat in my seat to host the countdown weeks ago, so then spot. It is right, Georgia. Like. That's the that's the spot when it is. It's not. I mean everybody's got good spots, but you get. The little comes around like that I mean it's like doctor evil. Before I come in and get sanitizing when I walk out and get Santa, also the cleanest Baden here. So, what's that like hosting like a countdown? Whenever you're like mostly like the artist guy playing getting played on the countdown, it's the. You really your job and me. I was I just way different from me. I'm used to just say if you words and singing. It's a whole different thing, but it was so cool because I remember growing up listening to countdowns and and. And listen on the weekend and it's just. It was called to do it so. I I think you gotta get vacation so. Yeah and I just sat there and work my work, my tail off for you and we're tired and I was looking at the ratings for it terrible. Ratings for a countdown that quick appreciate that come skyrocket. Start singing started doing my gigs all my songs. You've already know him now. Well, the thing people were tweeting during it i. told Amy This. On the show yesterday I said having a lot of tweets about how Great Britain in on the countdown, and like how it's their favorite countdown. Ever I guess I'm just chopped liver to these. It's always the new hot thing. all right bread. Eldridge's here's got a new record I. Want you to play? The single gotTa Talk to you about, but this is the song that's on the radio. I'm always curious. Though how what the conversation is because you're at the point now in your career where you can dictate your car, you're you're you're going a bit more than you used to could? So is. Do you sit in a room? And did you go all right? Here's a single. We're going to tell the record level to put it out or do you all sit together? What happens? You sit together and you I mean I. Guess Actually on this one my manager. John, Pete's we. Said we'RE GONNA. Go Walk in the woods. We're GONNA. Take a walk and we're GONNA disappear for a while. We're GONNA I'M GONNA dive deep, and this is what I went and I got the flip phone got you know I did all that kind of disconnected everything, and and was just sending him songs, and playing him. Songs come home, play songs, and we would just go through Stephane record them on the phone or Or in a little garage studio, and then we would talk through it, and and the label was really really amazing about kind of giving me the space to make you know. I wanted to go to a deeper level, and so they gave me the space to now aren't like. Oh, it needs to sound like this or you know. They didn't get in the way, which was really cool and you don't always get that. Are here it is. This is Gabrielle. Only. Because of licensing roles we can't play anything with music on this iheartradio channel or podcast anymore, but you can't go to Bobby Bell and dot com to see it. We hate that we had. Wasn't decision, but just wanted to keep you up and we wanted to keep up as much as possible, so I go to Bobby Dot Com to watch your here whatever you're missing right now and thank you for listening to the show and sorry about all the legal stuff. Let me, ask you. Will it ever be the right time with that? and. It still be the right time. To really good question, because if she. No, I don't think you ever know. For the most part for me, it's the center of the song is like. I think a lot of. Have had a relationship where we look back and we think what was look what could that have been? There really really like. You know necessarily the one that got away, but you just wasn't the right time. What one person was always there? One had something go on. Their life couldn't quite go all the way there whatever it was. It didn't quite make the decision. You dislike I. Wonder what that Person Doing. Wonder I'm glad that I had that, but you know i. wish him well I just. You know that's where it left off. You know I listened to these songs. Especially this new wreck listening listen to the words smoke crap L.. I I listen to melody right a melody person. First Meeting I I know a lot of songs about no all exact words. Daddy to beat right because a lot of words the songs. By listening to these and I hear how you're saying all these sweet things about relationships in girls and women and maturing What's the problem? Like as you you, you're freight in these songs right on down for. It's so interesting because in these songs, it's all like I used to seeing more like home. In this perfect relationship. Love I'm in love, you know fallen in love with the be the music, which I regret any of that, but I think on this summer. Love songs are more like there's a song called one you need. Let me be the one you need. Like I feel like I'm giving myself credit now. Starting to be like okay, I could be that foundation for somebody. I could be that person for somebody, but it's. Are you there I'm getting? I think I'm I think I'm finally about I. Think like over the last couple years I finally. Really close yeah second yeah. Step into that place so I just got to that place. Yeah a year because it's hard, it's hard to get there. I wish it was a mega having like that I'm trying. I'm trying my heart. That's the whole the whole goal you know. On the bobby bones show now. L.! On your twitter yet, some videos of you you ran a half marathon, but you ran it. It wasn't like there were people clapping on the sides. No markers. You just took off running. So, that was an interesting approach. You did it for a reason which mental health awareness that right? I guess was a is a harder to go run with thirteen miles, but nobody cheering you on. Yes, very hard it. It's a mental battle. You know like for me. It was it was like. I gotTA I. GotTa I gotTa. Get seven miles and got you know what is it? It's thirteen point one miles so I'm not doing math right now. I got another half to go, and I'm I'm seven in or whatever over six and I'm thinking. You're body's. You're your mind's trying to give up. You know trying to make deals with us. Your mind gives up way quicker than your body does, but and so you kind of have to become bigger than your mind a little bit. It's like I was running race myself which I wanted. because. We've talked about. Dealing with anxiety issues through the years I. Would you have a lot of mental games going through head so mental health awareness? You know at a time like this. You know I I was I knew it was going to get tough, and and in this you know lockdown and everything going on in the world so I, wanted to find some resilient, so I just ran. Thirteen point one miles I I trained of course. Do it overnight, but I got to the point where I would just got addicted to running I loved it so and we raised a bunch of money for for mental health awareness so. I would I would enjoy having people on the sidelines. I think that'd be pretty cool, but I think I'm glad I had to do it that way I. You and eventually I would like to do another one with people. I feel like it'd be easier. Maybe would you do the whole twenty-six? Would you, amy, Amy, you've done just once I. We're not when I was in college. Back in the day. It was good. It's totally mental once you get. I think when we trained. We Never I. Never ran more than twenty. One Miles in training Kazaa. Our coach was had told us. If you can do twenty one, you can do twenty six point two, and it's ninety percent mental so I mean obviously you can't you have? The twenty one and then the less rain but I mean that's what she would tell us because she's like. If you can do that your body as long as you're in good, you're everything's working. You should be fine, but it is so mental and I. do think there's something about accomplishing whatever it is setting it setting a goal and then accomplishing it. Rush at I. Remember Fishing I, I try not to throw up at the. It was really so hot here. I feel like if you can run a half or in Nashville, you can run a lot of places very hilly, but you know. After that I felt very rush in a sense of accomplishment and. I hardly ever ran more than five miles in my life at a time. Thirteen point one. That's pretty cool. Feeling well. Hey, what seven more and then you? That's at twenty and according to my college coach. Could do twenty. Let's go. What's up at the ring? You're wearing. Oh. Yeah, this is the ordering. This is not brought to you by this is just. This is just as you're not big. You're not a big jewellery guy on your hand. You have a ring that so attracts your sleep. has these little sensors on? It doesn't matter screening on it. But attracts your sleep. Tractor body temperature at night tracks your heart rate all that stuff because you know I was wearing that. I was wearing apple. Watch, one point but I was on stage in wouldn't be wearing apple. Watch on stage all the time, and so I wanted to get some kind of ring. And I couldn't find my ring finger, but then I was like. I look like I'm a married guy. So I got my fingers and attracts my sleep, and and I'm kind of a struggle with sleep through the years you know united tied up before but I. I feel like if I focus on it. This tells me WanNa go to bed. Wanted to get up okay by Your Circadian Rhythm Kinda Cana captures your rhythm your body, so it connects to an APP, and then the APP tells you does it like. Go. To sleep we're GONNA keep shocking. I'm. Interesting wait what? How can we look it up or Okay. You're not. Just generally. I'm Jen genuinely curious, too. I really like it. I mean it makes me a little obsessive like it a lot, but sleep is so important so sleeping water one easiest things right? We don't and we don't. Near the way way? Way More things. Pro Work Everything before sleep and sleeps. Gives us. Life Bread Eldridge's here I wanNA just run through these number one songs. Don't you give me one word 'cause I'M GONNA. Say 'cause you don't have headphones on I'm going to say the name raising GonNa play it and they wanNA point at you. You tell me one word that comes to mind when we do the song first of all, don't you? Here's this. Little closed word. To get to know you know, let's make you feel. Makes me wrong. She all grew through. Yes, is trigger. All right here's beat of the music. What's this all alley? Yeah? Video of pigs. Swing that's what it is okay. Yeah, that's why I see that in my head video to. All Right? Good that them video must have worked because. How often do you see video? On instagram or was before the swimming pays came popular though. Do you background people didn't. Popularize pigs. Is that what you're hoping? I really. Hope not. To mean to me than be worse, you mean to me. That one. Intimate. Let me ask you this. I'll ask a nice way. You ever smooch with a girl. Listen to your own. Mind how great is! Answer answering. These are all superlight songs out of. I'd never have. Okay. Have you to Brett Song? Of Yours. All Comedy Song I'm just saying it comes on the playlist. Come on the playlist, though, but we'll. Give you right. You're listening to like an IRA station or Pandora station. You listen to like country, love songs, and then all the sudden you know I, WanNa be that I saw, and you just make it happen all is. Let us know. I think it would lose the moment though I think it'd be in. Our start feeling weird. Lose my mind. WHO's this one? Home. That's how much they make you think about. straightjacket me two. That's the word I had and maybe the picture on the front of it to. Cover was and I shot it in a straitjacket a drunk on your love. John Baxter. Yeah. Which? Which one of these songs of your seven? Did you go? Man That's for sure a hit. And then which one did you go I? Don't know. I think. For sure was be the music and drunk on your one of those two like I knew. Sometimes as rhythm this the feel of those kind of things just felt like it. Then me like a son, mean to me, thank. It's going to you. Know, connect in a big way, but you don't know slower. You know there's just a lot of things that. Get through to get that song out there and and it became like a huge wedding song all that staying I bet you had offers. Offers the. PLATE WEDDINGS FOR LIKE Rich people. Offers weddings for really fancy. Wayne's got offers from from fans and we got to open bar yeah. and. Those are the two you do, and those are the ones that are only show up to. That's true man. I wanted it like a Salton or A. Oligarch, 'cause you and goes. Listen Mr elderlies is. Easter Hell Yeah has anybody from. Ma My my daughter she's turning twenty two. We give you two million dollars. I'm a yacht. That would be awesome. Something she does that. You have so many songs or like. Wedding love Song. Son of idea. was put it out there. Let's put it up to the universe. We have a lot of listeners over there. You know the song when I went to my girlfriend's hometown for the first time. Like my favorite song that you ever did. Was! Me The long way around this. Town. Yeah, which is my favorite song? And just because I was always like man I can't wait to have someone who. I care enough about to know all the. All the crap, which ends up being the best parts like most. Crab. You played softball in eighth grade, but I actually did. First Time. It was the first time in my life because I went to offers from a town near near Tulsa and I was like. Hey, let me see everything in your town and then I think I told you this. I play your song and I was like. We played. It was good. That's my favorite song. WAS THAT NUMBER ONE? Number One. It's not on. one-two-three was except well if it was. Yeah I was, but it's my favorite. It's a bobby number one number two. Some of the best songs don't even make it to number one. It's fine. Amy's now giving the. I was obviously heartbroken. Always ever that he's always there, but that's that's my bread. Eldred song well I'm. Up My favorite bread outdoors. Radio don't train. Per Me on. Way One way sky aeroplane. That people now come out and go. You know what Brett Song I liked the most I think they go back into. Your history is Raymond. Because I don't know that song did what you wanted to do. When it first came out very for song, so it was, it was same album. So with your success, people go back and then start Jerry. which is cool. Especially now. Many people can go find that that's that's powerful song to me. That's that's where I talk about vulnr- vulnerable so hard to say vulnerable that song was I mean when I wrote that it was about my grandmother she had Alzheimer's, and that was inspired from having Alzheimer's and I wrote it and get. Emotional way to cope with that, but it was. That's kind of like what I wanted to go back to with this new record of getting super vulnerable in that way because Just kind of releasing something and Yeah I think it connects with people got two more things. Talk to you about first of all. Your height is listed at six four. Is that true I think I'm a little more than I do, too. Alex is going to say while you play mine up. You play your. Or somebody played down for me. I guess I. Don't know. Where's it on Wiki on everything. It's on really six four. Come on, give me I'm thinking. I'm about six five. Wow, maybe a little less, but did you. When did you grow? What age? Like sophomore year, so so I played. I played most sports. My freshman year and then I, but I wasn't that big so I didn't get like. The athletic level that could have been till later and I I quit several sports at the end of freshman year because. I was I. WanNa Play Music, my dad and my brother, my grandfather were all amazing athletes and I was does not that great. Then I got huge and I was playing. I guess I was never gonNA. Go pro so. Or now. You go back and you try only Jordan we make a movie you. Yeah. That'd be because investing everybody investment. The other thing I'm GONNA ask. You is by the way breath got a record out came out this week. Check it out. It's called Sunday drive I'm GonNa talk about the song because this is an interesting story and I brought it up whenever you posted on instagram. Ray Play a little bit of Sunday drive, please. Trees. Domino own. Own home. Merit things. In this whole songs about something that you just. Kind of take for granted. It's sunny dry, but now it's really important to you. It's like that's that's the thing that matters. The most was that Sunday drive, but it's the only song you didn't right now. You will working in a for a record label here in town. And what was your job there? I was working for a publishing company. So I was which is different for songwriters songwriter so. This is where you go. Write songs for a living. And I was I was working in the basement as They. Call it the tape room. it was like a dungeon, looking kind of room and or just transfer CDs MP threes in the hard drive, so they could have all the artists database. And I heard the song. You know college days and I loved. That was just completely taken away by the depth in motion how it felt like a related in my life. And I? I kept it like my email inbox and I held onto it for. Should you have done that? WAS THAT I? Know I think if people pitch songs, and like no, I could have done that done I think somebody at the there told me about it to. Which I'm sure they didn't because it. Got Recorded through any of that, but yeah I would hope artists would put on hold and. There are look at maybe recording it, and then they they never did, and I would just never tell anybody about hoping one day I got to record it and then I got to this record. That was way more reflective Severi, reflective song and. There was kind of serendipitous kind of was the right moment record it and it was very full circle as a coal story. Who did you see almost according to do you know? Do not want to say. Has All the wheels turning as all the world. Though that, even in the early days or college days that a song like that. Struck you and that you yeah, I just. Not that it shouldn't, but where you were, and then it took you how? The third line talks about your parents older, and you're helping them to the back seat and and I was just completely destroyed that my parents were pretty young now, but still you. Were all growing older. You know that's the that's. What time does you know and to take each moment and make it count? Kind of thing is what I think. The message of the song was, and it really described a hold of me and so I sang that song in the studio got to the third verse completely lost it and I had I. Started Bawling. Step back from the microphone. And and the piano player in fifty kept playing and the finished song he was really emotional, and I went in and hit that last I and that was the take one take a nice, so that was that was a deep one as it. The only song ever cried on. I think so I think that's for sure. I still have trouble. I did a livestream from album day and I I was tearing up thinking. My parents were because I knew. My parents are watching me on the other side of the screen. You could feel that emotion and just. And it was just tabby, but in a good way. You know that's a good story. Knew we get one out of you? All right. Let's do. Let's play one of the hit by the way checkout. Sunday drive I love it. It for me, that's my jam up. Play a little bit of Paris, Illinois because this is the end of it and there's like. Sounds a little different payroll I sounds a little different. Much who? School Sinatra stuff on. Sunday drive. Let's play one of the the number ones here. How about? Let's do WanNa be that song can request that one. Can Alright Bread Eldridge's here. He's GonNa. Play US OUT WITH WANNA be that, song? On you out! Is and the flash. Right checkout Sunday drive his new record. I endorse it. Good to see, but thanks for coming by and we're on vacation on Friday when you record was out on release day. Sorry, we couldn't do this then all right. The first week it's all the same. Name and it's all as soon as long as we get to sink. It's fun to sing. I don't really get to do much of that, so amy in the YOU WANNA say! I really like I. Just encouraging, we'll get the album I love it. Good days. Good Day. Sorry added an as. Yeah I like all right, but might be my favorite from the album and single to. Nobody! Picks. A good second one a little more. Hi this is patron. I have a podcast called playing around I used to play professional golf. Now you see me flaunting my bid on the INSTAGRAM. We it talk about golf. We talk about light. You never really know where we're going to go with this. which makes it exciting also terrifying 'cause I'm just telling all of my deepest darkest secrets because I have no filter listen to playing around on the iheartradio, APP on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Translating. Common. Walk Up to the show more studio. Bread eldridge will be in later. Today is going to play a couple songs to. He's got his new records so good talking about it yesterday a little bit. Where do I start? I saw chick-fil-a was voted. Best chain restaurant again for the sixty in a row, and then when you say that the haters come flying out, let me explain to everyone. Why chick fillet is so good. It's because. It's good. It's cheap and the service is great. It's not if you just put the food out against a crazy fancy place. You'RE NOT GONNA go well. This is the best food, but for the price point, it's fantastic. That's why it's clean. It's good. It's cheap friendly. Yeah, and so that's why chick-fil-a wins anytime. You say anything's fantastic people WANNA. Behaviors go took the best, but it didn't win because it absolutely the best tasting period by far, that's not the Qu- best overall, and I think when you can go in with ten dollars. By two people a mill. And, it still be pretty good. That's that's why wins. And you love the fries. Oh. Yeah, I love, but I also love the the chicken sandwiches I go. There I choose if I had to choose one fast food place to go to for the rest of my life Raleigh Roy. But this a chain, so it's not just fast food, but chain. But I mean at Taco Bell close second in their open on Sundays until I guess I just wouldn't eat on Sunday best chain yours is I'll go check. Oh McDonald's. Palpable pound for pound because again, cost is a factor in this going best tasting right because chick-fil-a. I can do without the fries like McDonald's I can get the Burger and fries chick-fil-a the fries away. And it's Chick-fil-a or if it's a, Burger. Wendy's is really strong I don't the best fries, but they're meat is really good, and they got the frosty and then pretty good fries. But chick-fil-a I for me. I think I'd pick them to put olive garden up there, too. It's a different kind of chain just went up and notch though. I did in. It costs a little more, but you're getting better, and it doesn't cost a whole lot compared to the others like we went to corroborate the other night. And I don't I've been to crop is. Enough. I like Caraba Caitlin loves corrobos. And she was like know the whole menu. Olive Garden is she's a big olive garden fan to all my jam, though when it's because there was kind of Italian. Not of they both are. I guess I haven't been a whole lot enough to Nokia, but. All of I'M GONNA go. Chick Fillet. Olive Garden. I love in and out Burger. Because it doesn't cost that much. In I like the meat a lot, but it's not enough places. Regional Yeah. I'M GONNA go as far as chains go go chick-fil-a. All of garden. I do like outback. It costs more. I get it, but for fancy night or red lobster fancy night out red lobsters. You know they don't keep the lobsters upfront anymore. Why people don't want to see what they're going to eat or corona, I don't know. Just seeing. With coronal corona have to do with the lots of. People. Put their hand in it. There's nobody in the lobby to see it. And that's why it was presentation thing. Maybe I don't know, but they didn't have it. We went the other night. I feel like pedo probably complained or something. For a long time. You can always call our line to. If we don't answer, there's a voice Mel Leavitt. We check them every day eight, seven, seven, seventy seven bobby, for example, amy. This clip about you here, we go I just WANNA. Make a comment. Please hill, amy, don't yell. And I use y'all podcast I listened to it every day when I walked but stop. It's kind of startling. Anyway. Love the show love everybody on it. Thanks for listening. I can't go whatever Reagan go. Or whatever. Which I love does that and I will work on that if it's annoying I don't think it that annoying. I just want you to hear because yesterday. Someone said they were really annoyed with me. When I eat a cookie and I'm like. I have to go on a diet for eight months. so you can also call share what thing we do. That's annoying. Totally is we need we I welcome. Constructive Criticisms! She was super, Nice about it. So that was fine, she was rude, so I can appreciate the criticism. Of appreciate it, but understand no, know I've got. I've matured a lot. I can appreciate it and no okay. Maybe that is annoying I should work on air. Maybe I shouldn't startled people eight, seven, seven, seventy seven bobby. You showed your kids back to the future. Yeah may loved it. Where is it now? What do you mean? Where how did they watch it? Oh, we were in Colorado and. Where we were staying my brother-in-law, he has all the movies DVD's DVD's and so he has a little movie room, and they just go in there and they watch. It actually has a back to the future poster up in the movie room and they're like. We want to watch that one, so they put it in. And we watched the first one, and then they watched a little bit of the third one so. They really enjoyed. It was so good and I loved that they loved it because it reminded me how good it is, and I like that they can go back in time and still enjoy. That's how you know movies good because it holds up. The princess bride with Caitlin recently never seen it in the eighties I really enjoyed it. For an eighty had held up pretty well. Mount Rushmore of eighties movies if you haven't Abdou for them I. Would I sure have to go dirty dancing steel magnolias topgun top gun, good one and goonies. Okay. Mine are going to be. Karate Kid. Jimmy, Carter. Bill and Ted's excellent adventure I have not watched that favorite movies of all time, because I learned a lot, too, because they go back through time, and they see all the famous people like socrates billy the kid. It's I wonder if your kids are like that one. I'll I ha? I haven't on my list of things to watch eventually in life, beetlejuice is amount rushmore of eighties movies to watch that with Michael Keaton Yep. Beetlejuice beetlejuice, beetlejuice and the either commando. What is that the first action movie? I really liked Arnold Schwarzenegger. Never saw commando now. Don't make me think I'M GONNA. Do I think I'm going to go commando? Crotty, kid, commando beetlejuice and Bill Clinton. They're totally different so young born in the. Yeah. We didn't match any Princess Bride on the input back to the future we're talking about. Did. You ever see never ending story. Yes, did you like that loved it? I thought that's what I was watching when I was watching Princess, Bride Sake White. Where's the dog? Like, what are you talking about? That's never ending story different. Are they about the same thing? No. The Batman came out with Michael. Keaton and Jack Nicholson. You didn't like that. I don't know if I've seen it, but I mean I don't want to. Mad Max the original one with Mel Gibson. Walks I know it's good movie. Your favorite eighties movie Yeah I have coming to America. Or stand by me Oh. Yeah, that's a good one to the leeches. That's what we anytime. MMEDIATELY, go to Leeches and you don't even have a Weiner. You're right I don't. You don't even Weiner. Had leeches here on them. Yeah I have. I haven't never that. Look like that art the Leeches and Arkansas that when we would be places where like smaller and rounder, we had leeches. It'd be like Oh. You gotTa Leach. Big Deal No, it was a big deal, but it would be like getting a big kick. See Ticks Pretty Common. But when you get like a big tech, that is a weird one, but now takes crazy because people will get lime disease, I know like we never thought about lyme disease. Kid, yeah! Nobody's even getting lime disease where I was and we had. Two different. Maybe they were, but they didn't know. That's what they had wrong with them. Because I mean. Some doctors are people I don't know. Don't believe that that's a real disease. What they actually. Yeah, it's a thing like there's people that have it. That are people that thought that. Way Work. What was the name of that? What's the name of that company that Wayfair? Wayfair was selling things will. Listening to see how that even started. Your someone on reddit going would if right, it wasn't even a real thing, okay? I yes I know things spread on the Internet I. Just know that I follow a couple people on instrument that have lime disease, and they sometimes will have to stand up for the fact that they have in. It took many many years to even find a doctor that would help diagnose them proper. Don't even think dinosaurs a real. Some people don't. There are what? Yeah, but this is like people. They really have a disease I'm saying even doctors don't can't help them and they don't think that it's real. You haven't seen that. That's why I was blown away by so I started going down, and that's what went dinosaurs into the argument. You know I've been shocked, yeah! Very excitable new TV show starting as far as shooting it. It's a show on that Geo doing sixteen episodes. It's called breaking bobby bones, and I go and find people with similar mind that come from backgrounds that some people would think were rough, and then now they do crazy jobs much like my story, and so we're. We're GONNA. Go out to. Idaho Boise. Next week and just got delayed. The Kobe restrictions. So now that's a later when we're doing like three episodes in a couple of weeks I'm not sure if I can share these details really, but in a couple of weeks I'm going. There's a a female wrestler wrestles unlike the Women Wrestling Ponte with the other guy did to. He's a blind kayaker. GonNa Train Blind Whitewater rapid. I know and I'll share with you. Guys Steph until they told me not to, but that was the first episode after train. Blind like this blinded mask. And then he because he's a blind kayaker who goes through crazy Whitewater stuff well. How do you know if you're approaching Iraq? That's what I was gonNA find out so like I. Hear a story. And then I try to do what he does. That's very scary, so also. You're going to wrestle the girl or Something like that. Yeah so I go, and she's a female professional wrestler for like a women's wrestling organization, so I'm, GonNa go and. Again not quite sure, but I'm GONNA. Go and Russell Camping. In a few weeks, but everybody's. All the Kobe restrictions. I'm happy like I'm not happy. Our show is delayed, but I'm happy that people are trying to be as secure as possible with getting on sets and stuff I did read a story to the half of recovered cove. Nineteen patients have heart damage. You know they know so little about this right now and I'm not gonNA. Stay on this talk about it today, but they know so little about it that it changes so fast, but that's why it was called the novel Corona Virus because brand new. People, will only go ahead. We think this is going to be and some of what was wrong, but that's just because it hasn't been tested enough. Study show half recovered Kobe nineteen patients have hard damage. There continue to find out more and more. You know and they think. Not to get anybody. Down! My only. Consistent thing I say about it is take care of yourself. Don't depend on anyone to take care of you. Go well. Where am ask if you're around folks. Wash your hands. Stay away from folks if you can. Take care of yourself, you know. Keep your hands out of your mouth? Yeah. That's a hard one for me. On my eyes nose mouth. And I think for a lot of young people including myself because I've had these thoughts well. Okay, if I, get it I guess you know I think that I'll be fine, but there's so much that we don't know in everybody's body's reacting differently that it's like to. Maybe you recover, but. Ten years from now. Maybe you have some side effects in your heart or other organs that are result of you having it that maybe you wouldn't have encountered at that point in your life, so you still should be concerned about whether or not. You're going to get it. Would schools going in I? Hope kids get to go to school. I don't think there's a single person that doesn't want kids to go to school, but i. you know everyone's going well. The kids have immune. So what about the teachers? Yeah, that's what I think about like a teacher. Who isn't getting paid enough anyway. They're going in. It's dangerous to them. What about a fifty five year old teacher, a seventy year old teacher? So we all want kids to be in school. When you have two kids, you wanted to be in school. Absolutely. I know that there I mean. We're not set up as a homeschool family. I think for certain people home schooling works, but for my kids were. It's a major setback for us big time socially emotionally them. The child develop their development like their social skills like a lot of it, not just even the the learning part. It's like all of them being a kid part, but. The setting us back like yeah, so I want them in school, not just for education, but for what it does for them emotionally socially because I see that the difference in them just being in our house all the time. No Muss wanted to the, but isn't about your kids. It's like, but you don't want to. Running back to school wrecked. Yeah, no I mean. We'll keep them at home as long as we need to. Until it's safe to crack. A billion, dollars airlines we can give billions of dollars a schools and let them try to figure out yeah. Keep keep your fingers out of your mouth. It's a big one that was. I was talking about the Gabby bear sector thumb till she was. That's who I was talking about earlier. Until, she was how old eighth grade. That crazy! Everyone's got their thing. But Gabby Barrett said that she sucked her thumb until the eighth grade catastophic was messing up two front teeth so bad. Try to tell my daughter. She doesn't believe me she still. Yeah. It's a soothing thing for her. She did it at the orphanage. I'm not shocked that she's thirteen and still does it. That's why I'm like eighth grade. That doesn't seem that weird, because now that I have kids like there's a lot of stuff that happens. You just think thirteen is a lot older than it is, but it's really still. Young appeared the bed till second grade. I think that was just emotional stuff more than anything else, trauma, and then by animal. I've been fighting that my whole life. And so I've determined I'll never quit biting my nails, but I can always wash my hands more true, and it's not eliminating all. How y'all do that? My husband bites his nails tune. It's disgusting. I don't think it's great either acting like I think it's wonderful. Don't keep doing it, but it doesn't mean like it. That's my vice. What do you do? What are you still do I? Pull my hair out. This has come up twice. Today's you pull your hair. Well, that's what I do. I am impact. It came up when we were with our family last week. We were talking about how I now. They see me just pulling it like just pulling at it i. don't pull it all the way out, but occasionally because I had to I was getting a bald spot so I had to stop, and now I just pull it, but occasionally I rip it out in Phil- good. Judge me ever again for body my fingernails. Bonuses. From Nashville Hollywood Morgan number two thirty seconds skill. Kimberly from little town talked about her favorite family heirloom. We have in my family, a beat up apple. The Brandon's fallen off. Some of the pages are just stuffed in there. Still in the front is written the births of all the children's since the mid eighteen hundreds and our family, and some of the children even named because they lived a day or two and It's so special. It's such a treasure market. Midland remembers being banned from meeting George Strait from his mom. First Time we tour street I got a little too excited and proceeded to drink almost an entire bottle of the kilo by myself waiting to meet. Meet George Strait combination of Jess Cameron, my mother that semi home before George Down It's pretty embarrassing when you get set home by your mother at George Strait show Randall. Lambert is a big fan of fellow country artist Neil towns. I think that she is very special. She's one of those songwriter career. Top Artists I. Feel like she could make a you know an amazing catalog. Because of her her lyrics in what she's not afraid to say. She doesn't Rot Conventional Love Song. She writes about things that are a little hard to hear some times. which I think is amazing. A Morgan number two. That's your skin. Time for the good news. and. This lady Nebraska's on a way to our daughter's wedding. She's been an ER nurse for thirty five years, and she sees a big car wreck right in front of her, and she's like. Oh my goodness, she jumps out of the car and she runs. There's this woman gravely injured. She opens her airwaves until paramedics arrive, and they life lighter to the hospital where she survives, shows up to her daughter's wedding ten minutes before the start of the wedding, no blood on the dress. Wow, so she saved a life and then got to wear the same closer to the wedding. She was in her dress on the way to the wedding, and she showed him because Sarah's had to save a life. Really say that what her daughter said when she said she said when she wa weddings and I'm sorry. I'm late and we'll say. That is awesome that she was able to stop and save her. There you go, that's what it's all about. That was telling me something good. Showdown head. This story comes from Jupiter Florida a forty one year old man wanted to be the cool dad, so he has a twelve year old stepdaughter and he's like here. You want to drive the car. Keep going faster faster. Who got the car all the way up to eighty five miles an hour when they got pulled over? Twelve twelve years old. Is he get in trouble? Yeah, he gets in trouble because he wanted to be the cool father in letting her drive, and he's not even real father. He's just dating the girl's mom, but he's. He says I'm kind of like the stepfather Kinda like this, but I'm saying that he get the ticket, or does she do we know I know he does. He got arrested for child endangerment, and all that take and I drove when I was twelve, but never on highway. It was a dirt road. Which I must hands right? But you grew up in a rural area. I think a lot of people that grew up like you did drove at a young age. Marlet mostly to chase dog dear. To doing like I didn't drive till driver's Ed. we have, we have permits a fourteen though. I didn't have my parental fifteen. So just the state to. All right. That's your boneheads story today. I'm Alex. Aiono and I have a new podcast. Let's get into. It is all about tackling the stuff that you and I both want to know more about. How do you turn a friendship into a full on relationship? What if you're terrified of going broke? You're seeing someone new, but is it love or lust? And how can you actually use humor to heal from greet? 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He's not here. We were going to quarantine him, but he's still feeling bad right Eddie. Yeah I'm not feeling better. Guys like I feel like now. I can add body this thing. Oh, now, body aches! Allergies. Right yeah. I Don. I have no idea but like I don't know if I'm just tired. Or what because? I've been in bed for two days straight, so that could be it, but I don't know. I don't feel any better. Look like he's got. Columbia, people say they're just exhausted and. now Eddie hasn't said that chair since he left because Morgan's running cameras right now, right? Yeah, you're okay with sitting over there and his spot. Yeah, better me I mean. South. Eddie. Do you think you have corona? No I I honestly don't think so. Careful that I don't think that I can have it i. mean I just really think it's a bad case of sinus infection? But I feel like Eddie. There's tons of people out there. That got. It weren't being reckless. You're responsible. They were being careful to. It just happens. You don't have to go to kid. Rock's barring grilled, yeah! I know but I was not around. People like I've anytime. I had to go around people. I wear a mask and I don I mean I'm assuming that's what you do. Well don't have your results right. No I did not I mean. They told me they will call me of test positive and they will email me if it's negative, so I've been checking my email non it's hitting. Refresh refresh refresh. Florida added another twelve thousand six hundred cases yesterday of Corona to bring their total up to two hundred, eighty, two thousand, and I feel like you just. Go there and breathe. Here in the ocean, and let me shout out to all our listeners. Tampa we love. This is this is no shot. Anyway, because we we're not in a place is doing great either now south Florida. Record cases, and they're like. Let's just open up Disneyworld to. Win Everything. Here's the thing, though here's the thing I feel like I got to Florida on Tuesday. Start feeling sick on Friday I. Don't know how quick this thing works. But, that's okay. That's in the early part of the ranch. Okay. I'm feeling like if I do have corona. It could have been somewhere here, Nashville no now. You're just trying to get out of the fact that you went to Florida vacation. I'm just saying that's not. Well nothing's one hundred percent Eddie. Yeah I hope you don't have corona. Too so if he does have it that means he has to stay home for like six months now. I know media stayed home until two negative tests. Wow! Ray while you're. I mean I'm not saying that I predicted this, but he did use covert bay over Mandalay Bay in Vegas. Now. Obviously I've been thinking about it. Come on. Home last night going going, they bring Eddie on. He's writing options. I'm a big punching back to I. Know It, yeah, yeah, you are. Let me because you made us feel so guilty about going to vegas and how irresponsible we were, and then here you are laid up in bed can't get out of bed Eddie. Can I ask you a question? Yes, can you taste things still fully? Yes, I can taste my smell and I. don't have a fever. Everybody symptoms are different. That's true, but I mean the tasting and the smell things are are are big signs if you just said No. Well we'll get the results sooner he will. I mean my head just hurts really bad I'm not, and that's just what makes me think sinus infection. Do you get sinus infections often? Quite year. Do you get them from the water? Not I don't know I mean I haven't put that together. Does this feel like it has in previous years if you get it twice a year? Yes minus the body aches. Isolated from your family or they still have on bringing suit. That I'm in my room. I haven't left my room. I'll go down to get water or something, but no, they don't come in to see me. I'm trying to keep my distance as much as possible and windy. Day The we get the test. I got Sunday. Saturday. Saturday Sunday Monday today's Tuesday. He should have it in the next couple of days because you got your how many days after two days forty eight hours. Are you answering calls from a number of Eddie. Yeah I, mean just you guys? No one's really called. Live, will they call you with their result or did they now here said he'll call if it's yes, so email if it's no Gotcha. Sorry well. We're thinking about you. Thank you man! I miss you got I. Really Want to come negative, so get over this crap and get back to work. Well and if it's negative, and you get over that crap, easy, also you don't have it and it's not. Too which is a good thing right because who knows who hasn't hasn't been affected by it. I'm getting a test tomorrow because I have to do a full. Physical for National Geographic for I'm starting to work for them. And so I could get a full physical I'm going on there. I tried to get online and go to a walgreens or CVS and click it, 'cause they have all these options and he goes okay. I I mentioned earlier. Right or just or do you have a symptom when I was like? nope can't have a test. Like. Like okay, we can probably see you so you just. Get to. Nothing here incurred no, of course, not okay. Eddie be good. All Right? Thanks guys all right here. He is our producer Eddie. Who may have covert why we think yes, or no, if you're betting? I'm going to bet no I'm just GONNA. Say Now I'm going to bet no. You don't want to put out the bad vibes. Yeah if I had to put money on it, yes, yes. Got It. Morgan I don't think so. We got to Yeses to knows ray. You're one hundred percent, has it? It's not just a coincidence that he's having these weird body aches right after his trip to Florida, which is the right now the hot spot for coronavirus. Okay, we'll see. We'll see you tomorrow. Show. We'll tell you. This is brook from Florida. Bobby video so this is a full circle moment when I was Malam, school I would go to school and listen to. Amy tells a joke. Amy tells a joke and now I drive my daughter to daycare, and we listen to the morning courtney together. It's just crazy to think that I've been listening to you almost my whole life. Thank you. Love the she sounds like she could be our age. Cool because you're thirty nine, yeah! I. Don't know if that's accurate. Why. We've been doing this show. What I'm I'm forever young. That's why she's obviously younger than us. Then what was she in middle and Elementary School Entry School Year? And I start doing the show together two thousand six. And then you're twenty five then. Yeah! I just turned twenty five and Zips. Though says she was eight. Years Eighteen four as a kid, maybe so older voice to mature voice. Our saying yeah, here's Sam and Kelly from Arkansas Bobbi morning studio. We're seniors. FDA and we're taking our mcat August to find a medical school. We're wondering if you had any of that stress. Before we take our tests, we can't let. y'All. All Right? Nice, yeah, of course. A. Sound because the simple things are often simple for a reason that the most important things. First of all, you gotta get sleep because your hormones will be out of way if you're not getting the right amount of sleep, you have to eat right because if you don't your blood, sugar could be wrong, and all that stuff affects how you think and how you move, so you're smart m. M Cat is what is that a lawyer test medical skinny? Saying on idiot. You know this stuff Yeah, it's always that. You're someone who took it last year. Brain needs water a very recent version of it. And blueberries, okay well, we're on different paths now, but that's what I would say. Do all those things that we just talked about there? Are I'm going to play the guitar part from country song name the song. Now these are just isolated guitar, and these are very famous country songs, no singing. No other instruments see if you can name the song, number, one. Mantle in there. For a second. Flagging Real. Darius wagon wheel? Already beginning this one. So you. No that's the one that sounds like it awesome long. Both of them in there. I here now. Sitting at number three. WHO's bad if your boots Phanindra. Interest one. Dirk with Song. Lord hold on. Jefferson now. Madam, Damn for not found Hammer was I thinking I want more name this one. Nice, what's sign is a highway. Wow! Four five nice warm up. You get a reward. Did you see the woman who ran into the bear running by the way now she was running on a trail in. She turned a corner and into a bear. Shit? What did she do both roll down a hill? Oh, what? I saw this yesterday on twitter, a woman in a thirty sought medical help or minor injuries after she collided with a bear while running a trailer, glacier national park. The stats that one was on a trail. She's a runner huckleberry lookout trail nine am about four miles down the trail. She was running with two other people, and she was the lead runner on her, and the Baruch collided tumblr together off the trail, and my gosh once separated. The bear ran off. The woman in or to France walked down the trail, and met Rangers the bear and the woman okay, and hopefully they're not gonNA chase a bear down to kill a bear because Baird and doing anything except the trail. And here's thing about animals to even like even snakes snakes. Bear's any animal your. They don't want you as much as you don't want them. The. Only reason a bear would even attack snake would even attack as if it's threatened, or if it starving, it's just like a human. We're not walking around trying to fight people mostly. But if we're threatened, we fi in Hungary or somebody with us as hungry. We fight. But the woman had minor injuries to her head in her arm and. They've they're not closing down? There were just like that's unfortunate, but just imagine you're running the way into a bear now. Freak out. Fascinated with germs for years and years before Corona I was, the guy was always wearing sleeves. Just why didn't touch door handles, and I would wear masks on airplanes. Be Made Fun of Oh how the world comes back around Looking at such a crazy guy now does he definitely not thank you but I like to read. These stories as surprise germs. Source in your house is the toothbrush holder. Why The toothbrush holder experts say should rinse it daily and run it through the dishwasher once a week or so. Because of the toilet stuff coming out. It's sitting in the bathroom and it's also onto a thing your hands on it. and. It's also holding us up your mouth. So but people should shut the lid before they flush, we should. I should do a lot of things. I got roasted yesterday for laughing about Kayla Toilet I. didn't laugh because I thought it was right. I thought it was funny when she came out and said she fell in so deep I went to her knee, I laughed, but I'm doing better I'm working on my self. East pile of stories, so there's this guy on reddit. And his girlfriend recently moved in with him, but now he has this new house role. He doesn't get into his bed without taking shower every single night and he's demanding now. She does the same. So. He took it to read it to see if he was the bad guy for requiring his girlfriend to shower before bed. Well I. Don't think he's the bad guy. I think it's That's what he wants to know. Interesting asked. I'm GONNA say no. He's not the bad guy now. In a flip of that, my girlfriend will not get in the bed herself unless she takes beforehand. That too. She doesn't require me to I think it's encouraged. But she doesn't require me to. But I'M GONNA. Say No, not the bad guy. Interesting request and I would say if she's going to do it. She can go to him ago. That doesn't. I'm happy to do it, but you must now do. Something that makes me feel more comfortable. Yeah, she made me needs to take something to him. She's offended by it. She feels as though he is saying she's dirty. If it was just about her I could see that if he made his roll up just about her. You know. Shower, ritual speaking of living with someone for the first time yesterday of sitting on the toilet Kayla walked in. Korea it's first time that's happened to us. One the door. I don't think she thought it was in there Oh. And then, so, what did you do? I don't care about that stuff. What she helped didn't reacted strongly in anyway, just getting some bandaids because she gets a blister on her foot. And I was like well. I, just I'm not. I'm not scared of that. I don't hide from it. It's just not something that I'm like all about right and it will be and I don't. I. Don't anybody like lunchboxes. Thing is far yeah, it's like said. Yeah, that's funny. He'll do it here. I'm not like that even with dudes for the most part. So, but yeah, we had a moment yesterday. That's a big thing poop. Well Jennifer Incident Katy Perry had a moment little gender different. Katie asked Jennifer to be her daughter's Godmother so Jennifer. Aniston is already the Godmother to Coco, which is Courtney Cox and David, arquette's daughter WHO's sixteen years old video on instagram. She's older kid now. Yeah Sixteen, so she knows how to do the whole godmother thing and I guess her in Katy, Perry or super close. They became friends about ten years ago and even during Corona virus. They've been going on tons of walks together like social. Social distance walks by Katie's giving birth in a couple of weeks, and she has appointed or anointed Jennifer the godmother. Jennifer accepted. Well you know just feel like with relationships especially in the country music there, there's a lot that are. Falling apart so I thought I would highlight one. That's going strong. Shout Out, Carrie Underwood and Mike Fisher. They recently celebrated ten years of marriage, and they posted some photos. They celebrated each other online on instagram and yet they got married July. Ten Two thousand ten, so it's been officially tenures. I'm going to bring this about Raimondo about it until you bring this is all ray post something on someone's Instagram? Mic Up that was so funny and so. It was. I would have never said this. Do you don't talking about then? He took it now he he did it from his own base. I'll tell you yes in. He's this celebrity. Hold on I'M NOT GONNA. Tell you anything about it. Ray posted something on us on a country music stars page an I l.. O. L. When I saw it and I was like Oh! Hold on then I went back to look and the guy had had taken it down. Yeah. I'll tell you twenty minutes all right, but is a little bit ago. I'm not saying anything else. About, them. It was it don't. -nificant either doing more. Elephants. Twenty minutes. Okay fine. I'll write it down. Line right before Brett eldredge comes in share the story. That's my pal. Okay back. Amy's pile of stores. It's time for the good news swick body. Rescue dog and Tennessee became a hero when she alerted her own or to a house fire next door ru three years old. Owner Jeff like Kate's with frantic unusual barks, according to the Franklin Fire Department. When he opened the door, the dog ran out and then he saw neighbors burning at the direction. The dog was running, so he goes next door bangs on. The door woke up the family the. Three people in the house and their pets. Everybody got out. He's like holy crap. None of this would have happened if it wasn't for that dog. Isn't that crazy and by the way the woman whose house caught fire. She's a dog groomer. Who helped him adopt a dog fifteen months ago. It all comes back around gap. My dog would not do that. My dog would see a fire, my house or next door. Just go and scrape his arm on food closet, trying to get dog food. Are there you go? That's what it's all about. That was telling me something good. Did you know now you can pin instagram comments. I heard about that I. Haven't personally done it myself. I have a couple of times because most times people will say really mean stuff to get people to come in or like it, and then it goes to the top of your page so if I just panic top, it doesn't happen Oh. Penn the mean ones, but no, you better. Yes, got it. Because I? Don't want people trolling and then being rewarded for trolling I don't mind the meanwhile, but posted a video. Today's ago. And I haven't shaved in about a week or so I try to shave closer to any kind of shoot that I do because my. My skin will break out and people are just ripping me because of my bad beard. You can't help that and here's beard isn't bad in my ugly okay. How God gave me this face. Yeah, it's wrong with from people all right time for AMY's morning Corny! Up! Morning Corny. What did people say about the couple who had the same shoe size? I don't know what they say that they were soulmates Nice. Off. That was. Morning Gorny. Here's the story we told about. The Internet Mendel computers about the International Women Well. We pretty much been trying to break into the tech. Boys Club ever since. But women have always been at the ground for technology and the way impacts culture for instance. Did you know the original computers were actually women and computing was seen as such with worth that computing power was actually calculated kill girls. And even today women use the Internet and technology to build culture create movements and connect with each other. Despite dealing with some pretty vile stuff, just for daring to women online. I'm Rishaad my whole career diving into the ways that marginalized voices of shaped culture. My new podcast. There are no girls on the Internet jobs on July seven. and. We'll be diving all the ways women have been using technology to change the game since the very beginning listen to there are no on the Internet on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts new episodes every Tuesday. So Michael. Ray here's a clip of Michael. Raise, music? Gets on this on. And so I was looking at Michael as Instagram, and he's holding a bottle of some kind of water, and it's just him holding a bottle of water and he goes. You know I love this kind of water now. Available Blah Blah Blah, and then Raymundo audio producer. He puts an ACCOM- it, but we. You still love in eight months. Because Ray Michael Rain. Lot Of race here Michael Ray was married to Carly Pearce spray months. That's a home run home run. Leery so then Michael deletes it from his page. Did he reach out to you at all? No, he was a little, but heard about that because me and my fiancee. We're watching it and we saw the likes that were coming in, and then it got removed from his page. I got so many likes. Getting elevated to the top of the page is how I saw him which was great. It came to be in the moment i. knew it was going to be a hit, but then yet he did he. He was offended by it. You know feel bad that you made joke about his divorce. When it's that short of one I just feel like they kind of made a joke of it themselves. I mean seriously that you gotta Vet Somebody better than that. Anybody can be with somebody for eight months. Yeah okay. Anyway I saw laughed out. Loud, then thought Ooh, as low too low or I mean so I head I. Mean because I raised so funny. It's. But that was also like a trolling comment if it would have. been also I guess because I know if I didn't know ray and be like Oh, yeah troll, but I know raise not a trolling. He's just funny. He was just putting it out there. I feel like. You know every. They're probably even though it was eight months, there's a lot of hurt happening for both of them. I'm sure in wasn't easy, so probably low much. No never too low of you. If you go out there and you publicize your marriage. Sorry never too low grade job is funny, but I wouldn't oppose it it. Did you get any followers from? It no not really my fiancee approved of it usually, she's politically correct and says don't do that, but she was fine with it. It's time for the good news. Definitely gotTa shut out to the sixteen year old named. Bailey from north, Carolina. She normally super involved in sports and activities in school, but with Krona virus all that came to a halt, and she found herself with a lot of time on her hands, and she thought okay I, WanNa use this time to help others only us time to help kids, so she started pettis smile boxes, and she fills the boxes up with stuff that the kids like, and since them to them, she wants to spread joy and people can nominate. Nominate kids in their community that are deserving of these boxes, and she picks once they're not. She goes through the nomination. She picks someone out. And then she researches them to find out what toys they like. What boxwood they would really enjoy opening and make some a handmade card and she even started like. Go Fund me, so she could start before like have away to afford to buy everything for the boxes so super cool! Her instagram at petty's smile boxes hetty boxes. S. Anyway that's great. That's where it's all about right there. That was telling me something good. So I, got a call yesterday from a friend going. Hey, I just talked to someone who was duped out of thousands of dollars because someone claimed they. Were you sending the money? Let's so let me say first of all. I'm not asking for money from anybody unless we're like. Hey, we're doing. Can you hear me actually say it with my voice? Like I'm not asking for money so supposedly. She was helping a guy. Get back from Haiti, and then he was stranded in Houston. The person that she thought was me was asking to to get them back. It all started on the Saint. Jude radiothon sent gift cards to patients at Saint Jude the person was emailing her multiple times a day. He order a bunch of stolen merchandise to her house and then have her ship it to him. She's older definitely thought it was me until a few days ago. She realized possibly a scam when you didn't meet up with her. When you in Caitlin traveled to Little Rock, on the fourth of July, but it's thousands of dollars. Oh, my goodness. That's terrible. They. Say I just don't know if there's a way they can get back to thousands of dollars. They have all the emails and the IP addresses, but it's probably something for another country. I'm not asking for anything. Here's a note that the person's center acting like me when they flowers there flowers to. Oh! Wow, the no says couldn't make it because of news. From Haiti a little more time. Please bobby bones. And Dang. Tangle, so don't believe anyone on instagram. That doesn't have a blue checkmark. Is Messaging you not even asking for money? But that's the thing now where they're creating all these counts in other countries mostly in other countries and they're going hey. Joe Don Rooney Rascal flatts I'm Eric. Secret Account. I want to talk about real fans on this account and less. They have a blue checkmark. It ain't them. It Ain't me. I'm not asking for anything like this. We'll do stuff for. Veterans or Saint Jude, but the money goes to them. Right wouldn't go through you. Or any other. You don't mail it in somewhere. They even had her send a gift card to someone in. Los Angeles, as a thank you for doing caitlyn's makeup for a party. So. They found all these ways to get money from this person. That's so sad. I appreciate her. Looking out for me, right? But it's. Just there's a lot of people a lot of ways trying to get over on folks right now. But especially at the reaching online, make sure they have that blue checkmark Double check triple check. Anyway I just got that message. I thought I would because they'll make a council. Look exactly like yours like with an underscore, but all your same pictures. I've got a friend. A message of my close friends on this you and it was Mr. Bob Bob Bones. There was no why. Because! My name Mr Bobby bones on instagram. Yeah, but. Yeah that stinks ever sending her flowers. So crazy! That's next level. That stinks. Gobert to Morgan number two and talk about food. It's time for tape. With Morgan number two. That chip company lays, dropped five new flavors and their all American restaurant inspired. So like dishes at restaurants. Yes, basically. I. Okay As Kettle cooked New York style pizza, which is inspired by commodities in New York City. Pizza, what's kettle cooked pizza though I don't know like kettle? Chips potato chips hours it like the way they fry it. DO THEY FRY? I'm not quite sure that means, but okay. Go ahead and then Nashville, hot chicken inspired by party foul in Nashville. Yeah. I've gotten really wimpy with age. Hot stuff all the time, and now I'm like you know. I eat one little pepper and I freak out. What's the I like hot chicken, okay? I feel like some. It's very simple. Make very extra now. Like what if we do hot chicken? But it's you know on top of a platypus roasted, and you're like nunes. You can be the chicken. You'll need all. I'll go okay. It's gone. It's like whenever people make these. What's the vegetable. The green vegetables row bitter, but people do so much stuff on it. Brussels sprouts. People are like you gotTa Love Brussel sprouts, but then there in Carmel you know covered in. Qom Cereal. Browsing what you're doing to it I'll give that the okay. What else lays philly cheese steak? So Ed's inspired by a place in Philadelphia. Lays wavy Karnisovas Street TACO. and. Chile. I'm going to pronounce is Wrong I. Know it Chili Relleno Celli Riano. Ray and they'll. Get the. But was the one before that the Carney. The wavy Anita. Street Takhar Nita's like. A Mike is kearns like a baby goat head. Okay. What is what is the part that's like the the head of the cow or something like my dad used to always loved that meet, and it's like eighty two carbone, top or something now. I? Don't know, but it's like my dad. It's the best part of the COUN-. It's like in its head or the go I don't know. Morgan. Retailers as week. If you want to try all right, thank you very much. Food world with Morgan. Number two. Has the craziest talent I posted this on instagram yesterday. She can say a word to her. She could spell a forward and backward immediately. It's crazy sees the word, and so you can give her along. This is a clip from us in the car. The word is starbucks. Aarp K I S. S Casey, you be. The next word is baseball. As the L. Sat does a great. Okay. Let's do one more cabinet. Any T in. What is happening here? I mean that's a really cool party. Trick and I said. How do you do that? What do you mean I said how you use forward and backwards was well if I can spell it forward. I, see all the letters and then i. just look at them backward now. My I don't do that for. C. Word I, said no, she was like well. How do you think I said well? My problem is I'm not a good talker. Because when I'm talking in my head I'm three sentences ahead of where my mouth is and so a lot of time to come. Because I'm rolling different, but I don't but I still can't see words. But she does it fast to. People were like. Is that a trick? No, that was her in the car right there. We pull pulled the phone up while Oh. Totally you know we tried last night was the first episode of unsolved mysteries. What'd you think Great Ray Riviera? Yeah, he's the first one. Yeah it's so sad. It's really just a documentary. And unsolved one, yes. But it's. It's put together really well really well, even if you not watch on mysteries in the past, I think you'll like this show the thing is that finished that Ray Riviera one and I didn't like fell. How you felt. There's wasn't complete. The scared. Yes, I know in the music is scary. Unsolved mysteries. It's not horror. Well. No, but well. Have you watched the Second Watch second one yet he was so. This guy was killed and trying to figure out what happened to him or he John. Terry No, he did not kill him. Don't WanNA. Spoil it for listeners. Okay, but I'm saying that he ends up dead and don't know how but I I I was. I loved it. There's good I'll watch second. I didn't watch that crap and daylight. I agree so we had to. We ended a pallet cleanser, so we watched. idiot abroad, which is the? Show. It's a little older now regular basis in one of their buddies to all the places around the world. And it was funny and laughed and I felt better about going to sleep. I did that when I tried to watch the floors lava. Because my decent is pretty good, does terrible. The floor if there was a real lava, that would be a good show. I didn't like deplores lava. Well! It's like Orange Water Act. If you're just trying to jump across things to make it, Morgan Watch floors lava. I have watched that was all you laugh over there? It's fine. It's fine How many? Episodes of that show you two and a half. We watched half of the third one second one is. Also good, it feels weird, saying it's good because people have died, but it's done really well. Let's say it like that. And hopefully they can get the mystery solved by putting these stories out there, but the third one I gotta make our way through subtitles, because it's unsolved mystery from France. I. Know, but apparently whatever happened to this family in France. It's crazy like people over there freak out about it. We Rather Watch. Jeffrey Epstein or unsolved mysteries, and we chose unsolved mysteries because it's kind of the bigger thing right now, yeah! Did you watch Epstein Yeah. I listened to the obscene podcast and watch the NETFLIX's so I did both the podcasts almost onto now for called presidential. So have they. Were! This presidents friends with Epstein. No, I'm on your William. Henry Harrison right now and so you're talking about one of the first ten presidents, so William Henry Harrison goes out. This is my little fact of the day he goes out and gives the longest inaugural speech of all time. It's snowing. It's wet. It's cold. He doesn't wear a coat because he doesn't WANNA look weak. Longest inaugural speech ever dies thirty six days some days later. Called of your basically pneumonia. Shortest presidential term ever. I mean we're a jacket people. Back in the I don't even know that was the president, but I you know. Mike, we should write that is. Was it a president or is it a? Just a random person or a B. or a famous musician from the sixties lows in the William Henry Harrison yeah I'd be local. Yeah, see in the Beatles. Hi. This is patron and I have a podcast called playing around I used to play professional. Now you see me flaunting my cleavage on the instagram. We talk about golf. We talk about life. You never really know where we're going to go with this. Which makes it exciting? Also Vit- terrifying 'cause. I'm just telling all of my deepest darkest secrets, because I have no filter. Listen to playing around on the iheartradio. APP ON. Apple podcasts every. Get Your podcast. One four kids six and under have a smartphone. Reaction to that. I don't need anybody. It's six needs a smartphone for sure, not younger than sakes. You don't need a some mark phone. Where are you going where you're six and you need a phone? I don't think the phone though is mostly talking on the phone about gains tablet type stuff I. Don't use my phone for phone. Much is a little computer. I walk around with okay because I could see. Yeah I guess if it's a tablet. My son is seven had a tablet with APPs like in. You know so their parents said they made the purchase, because either just their kids asked or B. They did it so the little ones. St Entertain. Guy Well. What did we do? We didn't have that stop well. We didn't have a lot then. That's also like our parents go. We didn't get to watch TV all the time. all relative the generation you grow up in, but I. Thought that was a pretty big. It's fun to say that. When you're a parent, is it? Do you want to know what it was like? When we were kids, we didn't have this. What are your kids? Who Roll Their Eyes? Yeah, well, they mostly don't understand especially when I say we didn't have the Internet. Just wasn't a thing. We didn't have we a computer. None of that was in the house until much later in my life. What's up with your new house by the way? They do your kids like it. They love it. Yeah, they were so excited the first night they spent the night in it. They could go to bed and they woke up at five am the next day because they just couldn't sleep and they got up. They got dressed. They came downstairs knocked on our door. They're like hey. Instead of shears thirteen. She could sleep till noon if we let her and she was up at five am organizing her closet after she woke us up of course. Were you worried that? Because that's the only house they've lived in? Stay were adopted. Them and their therapists even said we should watch out for that type of change, and it might cause trigger some stuff, and we need to be prepared for it so I was doing all the things to be prepared and they are. Totally fine. So I feel i. feel good about that. My husband really. Is enjoying it. I think as a family. It's GonNa be a good place for us. What does your husband like about it the most? Oh well. We had no idea when we bought it that it's in the flight path for the airport so. he was in the backyard and kept seeing airplanes, and then more and more airplanes, and yeah, it's like literally somewhere between. Approaching the airport or taking off or something, our house is gets so many flights above it and he's a pilot pilot and he loves airplanes anytime. We're anywhere. If there's an airplane, he can hear it or we see one. We have to stop overdoing and look up and he can identify the airplane immediately. What kind it is like! I can barely even see it I'll know if it's a southwest plane. Maybe let's say it's not. It's a smaller plane like a more of a private plane he he can know. Everything about it. So just really excites him, so he's like we're never moving. This is amazing house. Your kitchen is awesome. Yeah, I love it, we. It's a kitchen. It's open into the living room, which is something we've always wanted because family. We just like that vibe of having a big open space, and so we're where we hang out in the most I think is our kitchen. Linear was in the kitchen yesterday a bunch of the House Ceylan loves to Cook, and so she made. She spent six hours making this fort, but Did you know poor butts? Not the, but it's a shoulder fun fact. I don't know why people call it the by but pork, but is the shoulder of the pig. Why don't they call it shoulder? I don't know maybe the, but because when you say, but unlike Martha's tasty. Do you think that on pig She's been six hours making port, but and she. She put a I don't. She did, but she worked hard. It was great. And, then we. It again for breakfast morning to at. Breakfast tacos with the pork. It's just not a arrogant. Apparently, butts are named after the barrels pork used to be stored in around the time the revolutionary war they were called Butts in the reason. Butts are often called Boston butts is because they were considered a New England specialty. So a pork, but is not a budget. That's what we had though for dinner. We did pork, but and then she takes. What's the kind of legacy? It's not lettuce us. It's like. I mean like an herb. You make a sound. She makes a salad out of this stuff. It's not lettuce. Rila. Lettuce. She religion is so awesome. United bitter to me. I'm not a big Fan, but she took a rubella. Put parmesan cheese on it in mix lemon juice in a little bit of olive oil. Is a great salad. So good, so she did that made Okra. which is growing to and the pork, but OKRA fried or steamed. All do both I love them both, but she also has. She bought yellow sweet potatoes, which I didn't know there such thing. You ever had those yeah. What is happening right now in malaria or yellow? Not Orange Orange. Orange cut it open. It was like. Japanese. There's purple ones you know. There's purple. I would need that I think it was bad. Cook for my life. I've never had. Someone actually cooked meals for me like growing up as a kid we didn't. Everything was a TV dinner or something. We we sometimes we would get lunch at school free lunch. We'd take some home and have it for dinner to. Nobody ever cooked for us, so we have someone that actually cooks meals, maybe as much about the food. It's about the time and the carrying that goes into making the meal a whole existing. Yeah, because as a kid I never got four, and then when I was a single guy and learn to cook, and I just ordered out or Did, Baloney Sandwich or something you know. But. I know it's a whole new life for your guy over here. Six hours on. China remember the last time I spent more than an hour on food. She lets like a hobby. Though yeah, she's way more into it than I am. Tell me how to feel closer to my significant other. Well first of all, you need to just listen, which sounds really simple, but I have tips on how you should actually listen. First, of all, you need to put your phone away if your partner sharing something with you. Yeah okay, we try to that dinner right, but like say she comes to you not at dinner and you've got your phone. Here's the thing I. Look I research on my phone while she's telling me so. I can look up answers like you can do. This is coming from the experts that say you need to listen to your partner ways. You can signal that you care are putting your phone down. Then offering your undivided attention, which also mean you're not googling what she's talking about making eye contact, and then following up on what you hear. Okay easy done considered done I'm going to be great listener now because some people would say, Oh, yeah, I, l listen I was in the same room and she was talking. You know like I heard everything you said, but really you didn't show that you cared. You know what do with my phone. I. Keep It face down all the time so I'm not. distracter distracted by it lighting up, and then I read these stories or like, if you may and keeps thumb face down. He's probably cheating on. You and I'm like that's not true at all I keep my phone. Like that I, think when talking to her I'm. She knows that's why you do that. We don't need to worry about that. Heck's wrong with people write these articles. Trying to get as good guys in trouble, tell her in advance. I know you see my phone down and you may be so that article on twitter, but I haven't down because I respect you. Say That I, don't bring it up because I only want her to think anything about it. Just seemed the articles to. Seize okay mostly she listens to some podcast called the morning, toast or something. I don't know, but apparently she shouldn't listen to this show. She listened to the Morning Post every day. What does that do no idea? UP-TO-DATE Verno, but she's always like. I shouldn't even say it on the X. Listen to that, but I should. She's like this morning on a of girl's. Talking about tampons and stuff I don't know. Is that what you think we talk about? tampons apparently. Take a bite out of the morning. Toast Oh. It's after we get off the air. But it's a pod gas. With no job and with girl with no job and Jackie O O. Good morning millennials. Anyway, she a millennial or Gen. She's a millennial. I was looking this out. What millennials are really the specific definition in nineteen eighty to nineteen whatever the ending date is? Do we know. So you, yes. here we go. millennials are born, one, thousand, nine, hundred, nineteen, ninety four. They're currently between twenty six and forty years old. I don't like being a millennial I was holding on tight to that Gen-x. But the official deal here is nineteen, eighty and nineteen ninety four. That's US your millennial Morgan. Are you on the edge of it and about ninety three, so yeah, back side of it, so then once after millennials. Z.. Is that what it is? So what so? What's why? Why are millennials? Okay, so it's X.. Gen, Y. and millennials are the same thing confusing, Gen, Z.. We're also Gen. Y.. Yes, okay. I. Never Refer to myself as that. I never heard Muslim aluminum always. Like I'm at the tail end of genetics. I liked being a millennial. That's the deal. I don't know those girls are morning. Toast but I bet they do a good show because. You don't hear no. I just looked it up i. have never heard of it. I'm going to dig it L.. During the show we're done that's it. We'll see tomorrow by everybody.

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Draft Handling, QB Quarantine Preparation, & The Mailbag | Wednesday Mailbag

"Hey guys this hour hoping to give you guys a nice diversion. This week is happening in our world. We have great guests lined up. He's GonNa come in and talk about quarterbacks both young and not quite as young and then of course we've got to take waste as always we wrap things up with your questions in the six pack. Let's go all right. Welcome in is the key podcast with Albert. Breyer we're in the third full week of quarantine. Here's hoping that everybody is listening to the doctors paying attention to the science You know we can all get through this. I'm not a doctor. I'm not a scientist. I'm listening to what people are saying. You know clear all get through this but the best way to do it with the lease damage to human life is to social distance to wash your hands to take care of all the things that they've been telling us to take care of. I think by now most people are paying attention to this. If you aren't your idiot and you need to be paying attention to it. So we're going to get the football stuff that you guys are here for practice. That was important again to drive that message home and can't be driven home enough. Great guests coming up one of our favorite guests. He's GONNA help us out with a lot of the quarterbacking storylines across the NFL. How quarterbacks are adjusting to this new normal. What he's done to help them. If you're a jets fan your bills fan your bengals fan. You're Patriots Fan in particular. You'RE GONNA WANNA listen to US redskins fans to So we got that coming up we got all of you want to answer all your questions in the mail bag as we always do. But we're GONNA start the takeaways and my I take away the NFL's got evil intentions here but there are a couple of things that I think they certainly could have handled better. Okay now. I don't think the idea of going forward with the drought is indefensible. It does give people a great escape. I know a Lotta people. Were looking forward to it. Because it's going to be like this oasis and what's been a desert of sports content over the last few weeks so I can appreciate that is going to create a lot of challenges for teams but they're manageable challenges. There are going to be mistakes. Made that have been made in past years. I you know. But I think that stuff's manageable but the league didn't need to do a leak. Didn't need to threaten. It's it's team executives. It's coaches look. It's not unanimous. There isn't an in Roger. Goodell tried to put it out there that that he got in this unanimous agreement that they should go back. Go forward the draft. I I can just tell you right now. Among general managers among head coaches it is not unanimous. There are lots of people who feel like based on what's going on in this country that we shouldn't be we like the. Nfl should be pushing pause like every other major sports league. I know that there are general managers and head coaches. Who feel like. It's not fair that they're being forced to make multi-million dollar decisions decisions that could wind up determining their job security and a couple years in under these circumstances so it's not unanimous and. I'm not saying that all those guys are right. You know but but the idea that it's unanimous is incorrect and the fact that those guys have all been threatened. Like if you don't shut up and there's going to be disciplined I just. I think it's the wrong tone to take. I think everybody's entitled to their opinion in a situation like this. I think it's ridiculous that the League's threatening people for stepping out of line and saying you know we're not doing the right thing again. I'm not saying it's the right or wrong thing. I'm just telling you the League's doing the wrong thing intriguing. Their employees this way at this time on the name of going forward the draft when we know that when we know a good portion of the motivation is driven by the economics of it. Okay and the second misstep here is the phrasing conference call that I was a part of on on Tuesday. The idea like I understand why they're doing again. I get it like they have to the messaging towards businesses that are going to be cutting back. Their sponsors their partners their advertisers. They have to you know they have to put on this this confident front but the idea like were planning on going forward in September and everything that we've heard is that we're GONNA be able to go forward and September and like this Gung Ho like damn the torpedoes like this this this confidence this bluster like this is not gonNA stop us again. Just I think it's the wrong tone and that's my personal opinion again. I understand you've got a lot of money on the line here. I understand a lot of the businesses that they have partnerships with are going to be cutting back. So there's a lot of money on the line here and I understand. They put forward a confident front. But you have to be key. I I just think that the League has got to be way more careful about its tone. It got to be way more careful about his tone internally with its coaches in its head as general managers because this is going to hit the NFL at some level and the idea they were threatening people about the idea the idea they were threatening people on talking speaking out against going forward. You know based on everything that we're going through in our country. I think that's wrong. It's GonNa look worse when it does at the NFL as inevitably will And I think it's also just comes off the wrong way to be talking about the twenty twenty season it's a foregone conclusion that there's going to be one all right. Take away number. Two the flip side of this is that since they are going forward there are GonNa be teams. That are GonNa get an advantage here. There are GonNa be players that are going to gain getting advantage here. I the feedback. I've gotten from team so far is they're actually able to go a little deeper with prospects now because they can talk to them multiple times this way and because they are focused on the zoom meetings on the facetime interviews and they're allowed to have three of those per week with each player up to an hour per call and so they're able to sort of develop relationships with these guys a little bit better. They're also able to do it with more guys because they're not flying guys because their staff isn't out on the road they're able to hit more guys and they're able to kind of go through more guys and so that's something that they can do. They haven't been able to do in the past. You lose them stuff. Of course you can't put a guy threw out private workout. You can't bring a Guy Pratt. Bring a guy in for physical and those sorts of things do hurt but there's an advantage that certain teams are gaining here based on the circumstances and as for the players the players involved. And you're GonNa hear our guest talk about this a little bit You know the players are able to sue the players who are being smart about this. The same way players who are being smart about in two thousand eleven will be able to create an advantage for themselves. There will be a gap here between the players that use this time as time off and you do the players that use this time strategically and so I think that there is that part of it too so teams and players. Smart team smart players. I think going to be an advantage coming through going through this and whenever we get to the twenty twenty season assuming there is a twenty twenty season you'll be able to see which teams used their time correctly. Takeaway Number Three. Laremy Tunsil who has all leverage in the world reportedly turned down an offer of eighteen and a half million dollars per year. Now that would make him. The highest paid tackle football highest paid offensive LINEMAN IN FOOTBALL. But just by a little bit late. Johnson gotTA deal last year. The Eagles right tackle for eighteen million dollars a year so basically what the Texans have offered him as a deal making him the richest offensive lineman ever with an incremental increase over the old standard. And tonsil right now. Because of all that leverage he's got the Texans gave up so much again them. The Texans can't let them go because he's such a big part of their future now has said No. I'm in the position. Aaron Donald or Khalil. Mack was I'm an elite player my position and I'm prepared to change the market. Now What's interesting about? This one is what it tells us about where the Texans are and that they were willing to invest this level in their offense of line in an alignment but they balked at the idea of doing it with the receiver. Another other issues involved with that receiver with three hundred Hopkins. There was friction of course there. But they're they're willing to do it on the offensive line. This tells you a little bit about we're Billy O'Brien in that group. Were their their belief system that they believe it's important to invest in the offense of in the offensive and defensive lines and I think that's clear with what they're doing here tonsil so as a philosophical thing. The second part of it I think is that you know. We've seen certain positions clear the twenty million dollars a year barrier. The defensive tackles. Did it the defensive ends slash outside linebacker that edge position. They did it. The receiver position now is now done it and what you see is it sorta starts to drag people up and the and the receiver position has broken through that glass ceiling to Mike. Thomas got twenty million per than Julio Jones got twenty two million per and now players. That position are going to be able to ask for that. We haven't seen in a corner. I think eventually we will. We haven't seen in the offense of line so Laremy Tunsil can bring guys up with him and so he can change the dynamic here. I think he probably will. My guess would learn. Tonsil probably becomes the first twenty million dollar offensive lineman takeaway number four guys that have been affected by the Cova nineteen pandemic to name stick out more than any any others as Cam. Newton Judean cloudy. What do they have in common? Both those guys have had some questions personality wise and both those guys have had serious injuries. And so these these are the sorts of guys that are really hurt by not being able to come in and take a physical by not being able to come in and sit down and meet with people and I think what both of them cloudy is the microfracture injury with Cam. It's the it's the right shoulder in the left foot. There's questions all right like you're not an NFL program right. Now we might have an off-season a really going to be able to ramp up and get ready to play in time in twenty twenty and so it's going to be interesting to see what those guys do. Those guys sit and wait until you know. Teams are are sort of back and operational. Do those guys wait for the right situation. Sort of arise. Maybe somebody gets hurt. It's I think these are the most fascinating because these two just two big names. Two guys be impact players to guys without homes right now. Two guys who have to make decisions strategically on what they WANNA do. I think chances are clowney. Winds it back and Seattle and maybe on a one year deal because he had. I'd getting into that twenty million dollar club we can. I don't know Man Kam to the charge Patriots of the two. That seemed to have openings. There I'm not sure that either of them make a run at him the patriots because of their caps situation. They probably want to give them a luck. We're GONNA talk more about cinnamon a little bit and the chargers because I think they probably draft one and if they draft one. I think it's tyrod. I think it's a rookie. And do you WANNA put cam in that mix and so you know in a weird weird spot Because I think most teams believe it'd be tough to bring him in if he's not. You're starting quarterback it'd be tough to slide him in as the twentieth guy in your roster because he's a guy who's so used to being the center of everything you know he's been. He was a centerpiece in Auburn. He was a centerpiece at from day. One in Carolina. It's hard to envision him being just sort of your average player on your roster like the twentieth guy. Neurosurgeon exist in that environment. How would he handle being in a room with a guy who you know if you're the charges you drafted sixth overall there? There are some questions that he needs to answer there too. And so I think those two are gonNA be fascinating to watch and could wind up sitting out there in the market for a little while longer. Finally take away number five. I'm GonNa give you is five things to know because we're getting closer to the draft only three weeks away five things to know about the two thousand and twenty draft class. I is Joe Borough first overall and then I think for to a tongue low and justin. Herbert things are a little unpredictable. With two. Or you're going to get different in different opinions on him medically. I'm not sure. Miami's comfortable with the medicals there and just in Herbert. The question is does he project to be a better pro then. He was a college player because there are some questions about his tape to it. Does that very make questions about his tape? It's mostly medical justin. Herbert doesn't have questions medical or whether whether he'll be able to hold up it's more about his tape and so. I think both those guys could wind up going in the top five but I'm not totally locked in on it. I think that those guys are a little unpredictable as far as where they go second thing. No I don't get the idea the. Nfl is in love with Jordan. Love Utah State quarterback as people might think I just I like. I don't know that he falls to the bottom of the first round but a month ago I would have told you. He's probably GonNa go in the first twelve or thirteen picks. I'm not so sure about that anymore. I'm just having a hard time finding teams. That really are over. The top infatuated with them quarterbacks coaches that really love him and that leaves a lot of questions A lot of questions to be answered My third thing to know for the two thousand twenty draft class. They're four elite defensive players in the class. Isaiah Simmons Jeff Okuda Derrick Brown and of course chase young and four. Top Offensive Tackles MCI Becton from Louisville Jefferson Jesuit wills from Alabama trust and worse from Iowa and Andrew Thomas from Georgia. I believe those eight players go somewhere in the first thirteen or fourteen picks along with the three quarterbacks and so I think what you have here is draft. It's got sort of this upper class right where you got the defensive players a Giovane. Ken Law might go in that that area to right around where the top forego the four elite offensive tackles and the and. I think that there are all in a cluster. Because there's a drop off tackle after the top four. There's a little bit of a drop off in defensive players after the top four. And then you have the three quarterbacks and so I those eleven players probably go in the first twelve or thirteen picks because of just supply and demand their positions and because those guys all have a chance to be blue chip players in the NFL thing. No number four for the two thousand twenty class wide receiver classes outstanding. I've heard CD. Lamb compared to deandre hopkins. I've heard Jerry Judy. Compared to Marvin Harrison and Henry drugs brings incredible foot speed to the equation. And so those three guys have a chance to be star players. You know I think judy and Judy and lamb or sort of your prototypical number ones whereas with with with rugs you're looking at maybe a little bit of a trend thing where players you know teams are going to look at it and say well because of what the chiefs has done. What Tyreek Hill? We can make a player like that. Who smaller but incredibly fast. We can make him our number one and so I think all three of those guys are there's merit and taking any any of those three in the top twenty. My question is if you're one of these teams do you look at it and say we're GonNa get our tackle. We're going to get our pass rusher. We're GONNA get our corner in the first round. Wait till a second or third round to get our receiver especially when you look at the history of second year second round receivers over the last few years that had success by pretty quickly in the NFL. Mike Thomas New Orleans digi charge and Jacksonville to old miss kids last year. Aj Brown and decay metcalf. It's GonNa be an interesting dynamic there with those top receivers because a great class. I those three guys I mentioned are worthy of going in the top. Fifteen or twenty picks. The question is whether or not the depth of the class and finally my fifth thing to know for this draft class that draft starts at three. I think borough goes one to the bengals. I think when all is said and done chase young. Who's actually an ex teammate? Of Joe Boroughs at Ohio state goes second to Washington and then I think the lines are open for business at three If they stick their they probably take Jeff Okuda if chase young to follow them for some reason if Washington where to trade out or take two or something crazy than they would sit there at three and take chase young But I think chances are Cincinnati goes borough Washington goes young and then the draft starts at three with the Lions. Perhaps holding an auction for that. All right we're going to get to our guest right after muscle pain talking. Stop in your tracks. I'll never work out again. Oh my God what am I going to do kind of pain? This is the kind of pain that Dr Jason worsened was in when he created Thera Gun. The deep muscle massager. That is unlike anything you've ever felt. There isn't a cheat massager. That just tickles your muscles. Our hand held percussive. 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I would say this week In the last few weeks that's your in Palmer and Jordan WanNa start here like I talked to Kyle Allen last week I know Kyle and Josh Allen and Sam Darnold or sort of hold up there or the last few weeks been like for you. You know 'cause it seems like it seemed like there was almost like a quarterback quarantine going on out there. The other was and You Know Joe Boroughs in that mix to. He finally went back to Ohio Week or two ago when California started getting Further down the line in terms of shutting things down But Yeah I we. We're limiting what we're doing. I mean we're throwing on the beach with selected receivers only two or three of them who we know and then you know or indeed as well and keeping her distance they so yes weird times China somewhere in and at the same time This feels like an lockout all over again exactly ten years To the off season you know. Nine years Nine years ago and Where we didn't have an off season we just as you showed up for training camp. I I definitely don't have that information. And who knows where it's heading but that's what it feels like the end and so one of the things that I can help guys with is I lived through that in fact I was in Cincinnati when we had the lockout Carson demanded this trade and we had just let it any Dalton second round and I was the only quarterback on the team and we had fired off the coordinator and hired Jay Gruden as our office coordinator at a new offense as well and so Back then I kinda organized team activities. I got the whole team together. Which obviously you can't do right now. But the bengals ended up having a good year with the play offs and he went to the pro bowl and a lot of teams. That got really tight during that offseason With the teams that won a bunch of games. And so for Sam and Josh and cows on a new T. now if you can really communicate with all your guys if you can talk way more with the defense leaders than you normally would this time of year and you guys can have great communication Be You know build. It'd be Zoom Stipe. Whatever bill like deeper relationships guys kind of all you can do great an advantage for your team because you can't really organize anything you know collectively as a group You can't Perot and get timing and so the only chance you have to get your team better is to communicate more in St Cloud. Get closer through this And so that's kind of what I've been pushing her own a little bit. But I I kinda like improve the things that you can control and really the only one on the table right. What do you remember about like the creative things that you did do during the lockout and eleven that maybe would apply nine years later well We installed a new offense and so One of the things that we did is Injured or left tackle. And so I got the playbook and you know injure took a lot of pride and You know installing the protections in doing that to the group and so for some of the linemen that was cool to hear what explain it but for some of the other physicians have win. Explain it that was interesting and then having You know some receivers and tight ends they do their installs pretty group it. Just Kinda got more people talking. We did it at my high school Michigan. High School It got more people talking. And then we ended up organizing a group The full team offense and defense out at the University of Cincinnati and that was like Dome Atop Deco and Pacman Honey Jones and those are some names people ever heard of that and You Know Pride and like installing the defense and doing seven seven so we can't do any of that stuff yet but what you can do is Really take time to communicate with is that you normally wouldn't be talking with right now. Did you use the ball? You have have Salmon Josh and Kyle. I mean what kind of I guess a little bit of a different situation because he got traded so he needs to get to know those guys. I but like what Josh Josh Allen and and Sam Darnold have. They started you that sort of stuff. Oh Yeah Yeah. They've been having Multiple calls a day just connecting with guys. It doesn't cost you anything the hell else you got going on anyway. She got plenty of free time. And you know everyone else has free time to I just told them like if you'RE GONNA compete this time of year and you can. You're limited on what you can do with yourself and you're limited on what you can do physically with teammates. How do you communicate better than every other team in the League Because this whole league is just about creating advantages for yourself. Whether that's person now whether that's coaching whether that's an individual talent or physical ability really or whether or not don't everything is about this game 'cause 'cause everyone has the same salary cap right and same amount of players on the team and all the owners rich and all the stadiums are full. So you're limited on ways that you can create advantages and really limited this time of year right now with what's happening and so there's something that's uncapped unmonitored And it's hard to argue that communicating with team as you normally wouldn't communicate with is a waste of time it's hard to make that argument so It's a way to create an interesting. Your team. Where do you showed up for you guys that year then in eleven like word that kind of come into play? I think A lot of guys. They'd just builds better relationships that offseason wasn't like show up for work and then leave it was people. Were flying themselves out here. They're putting themselves up in a hotel. You're going out at night. We're the golfers. Were Golfing hanging out guys. Who were just hanging out playing just hanging out you know I. It just ended up kind of connecting with different guys and I just feel like it's the same reason that colleges go off the training camps in the mountains for a couple of days. You know what I mean and get away or or not as the team paint balling team. It's just about building relationships that's really manufactured When it's on the players completely to do it and there's no one making them do it. I feel like I feel you know more authentic bonds than they normally would and It's hard to show direct relations. You know and I don't know. Pf has any step on the win. Column But In theory it would make more sense to know your teammates. Better and And that's again kind of handcuffed here on what she can do to develop yourself in the offseason. So that's really the only one that's going on On Cat so the way. Kyle kind of describe it to me. Well what him in Josh and Sam. We're going to release last week before I know Kyle Arizona but what was like last week was you couldn't work out. You couldn't throw it like fields parks because most of those are closed. The Gym's closed so they were basically throwing on a beach and and and like working out. I guess in someone's garage right like in their trainers garage and so What was it like clients garage a random? It is this morning At my little league yield. It's kind of a soccer field too. Well these other little kids playing soccer undecided field. I mean they were three franchise quarterback and working out on the little kids soccer fields Yeah it's It's insane and talking to other buddies the coach and other players around you know 'cause I got guys who were supposed to be out here right now We were supposed to spend the second half of March out here and so kind of like. Hey check what are you doing? Whatever needs days throwing little brother in the backyard all over again? And yet they're like franchise starting quarterback it's sure have you adapted it like. What have you had to adapt as far as throwing? I'd like one then Kyle mentioned to me was like he feels like he's working on his core more now. Alec throwing it the beach like so. I guess there are little things that you probably. They're probably each getting out of it. But I assume like you mentioned how all this stuff's competitive right like and you're always looking for an edge. If there's something you can be doing that no one else is doing. Maybe there've been things that you've been able to do that. Have created that ad you think for the for the three guys you've been working with Yeah I think we're just like anything we're guy I'm always and it's not. It's not that. I think he should do this so I'm going to tell them to do this. It's I'm a consultant so Colin I would talk about what we think counties to work on it and then it's my job that put him in a position to to be able to work on that The first thing I did is dialed back right. We're only throwing twice a week right now because normally I'm building four days. A week as guys leave broach as And really they go back there. That for like two or three weeks parochial start on a normal schedule So normally right now would be building up to four days a week but I just said Hey. Let's let's go back down to because we're doing this indefinitely I don't want anybody to peak right. Start beating and giving Arben great shape. Let's just throw enough to be able to work on specific things But arm conditioning is not one of them. Aren't care is doing a lot of stuff before. And after we wrote building up the shoulder actual we're not Like the Rastrick rotation their ability to the right and the left so really working on like the foundational things that make up. There's only motion Walden they with their stringer and are working on You know just the rest of the body and movement and so really right now. It's each. It's not any different than that. Where I'm always thinking. One thing to vote this on and then once that become muscle memory than we work on the next thing trying to think about fifteen things at once and anybody. Who's Listening Golfer? And you get over the ball on the tee box and you're thinking about thirteen different things I mean. Nothing's going in the woods for sure But if you just think you know relaxed my hands you know. Let's go you know one or two things in your head usually focus and so that's kind of always been my approach to working with the guys. Can you give me like one? He give me an area where you think. Each of those guys is getting better right now. Yeah Sean on a deep ball has been the same for the offseason so Folks on just keeping his shoulder level so you look at him at any point right now. His shoulder level is going to be far more parallel to the ground and horizontal leading back or the front shoulder tips and so we spend a Lotta time. He's talking some of the folks to And we're going to put a plan together and we're a month into that. I think it's GonNa be you know a big improvement this year With Sam Darnold. No mechanical thing is just getting old clearing space. I have to do all the room You know in. Kyle's getting over his front foot when he grows Not Fading away from things so when I go in the sand it makes it very easy to fade away from your throw and knock him over that front but and And so each of these guys putting the division. So we're headed. This is the thing we're going to isolate and work on But again it's it's super slobber that's not I'm not I'm not like dropping a bomb on me to work on and they're caught off guard racially. Do you think there's I mean I guess like an circumstance like this? You probably learn something about guys to like. Do you feel like you've learned anything about them. Going through this with them Not so much these guys. I'm Sam when he was fourteen car when he was sixteen It's a little different than the typical coach player relationship for sure But I think these guys are learning How to compete and and really need a leader their their teams need particularly Sam. Josh obviously the unquestioned starters They're they're learning How to do that and just by the way with me game. It's he makes right now and and You know quarterback in the NFL. It's it's it's twelve month deal. This is not a good ones. It's a twelve hundred zero So the guys who are reaching their potential and are as good as they should be full month and So these guys are not streaming work on their own but when it takes going into your threes. You need to be unquestionably. Don't seeming. You'd have a great relationship with a lot of players on the team and be communicating different things. And so I think They're learning how to do that and You know he every mother's learn place to do that and that's why you're out. You're going to have a way. This has been a good thing for them. And that give like you said going back to what you said at the beginning like this provided the opportunity for them to sort of naturally take that step. Because it's needed right now. Yeah I don't I don't I wouldn't say this is a good thing but just for that even just to them. I think It's just another part of Of the job is being enquired upon more than more than normal That'd be great leaders anyways there. They've got famous in the locker room and as the team look to them for For leadership and a lot of different situations in a unique situation in which they're giving what can I do want to ask you about Joe to And sort of and I guess your experience having been around Andy when he was handling the lockout and everything else main may help there too. What has it been like for Joe going through the process where it's literally like you know. I mean you're kind of being put in like uncharted territory here. Even the lockout guys got to go through the full draft process right like right up to draft day and then maybe things were a little different house. Joe House Joe. Handle this Honestly like I think he's the least probably the least affected guy by this right because he didn't get a pro day but doesn't matter is zero effect on them The interviews non getting the interview with fifteen jeans and visit a bunch of different teams has no effect on it and At least he and I don't you know I'm not getting into anything Cincinnati's but like you know they're number one. If they WANNA take him he at least had a really good idea as to what team he's going to go away better idea than anyone else and so. I actually think he's the least affected person by this. I got guys that didn't get invited to the combine. That are they were waiting on their quota. And did you a private workouts and guys that are really you know it was very important to them to meet with these teams in person or those guys who a lot of the other quarterbacks in the first round of their names are being rumored to all kinds of different teams. You really wrap your head and prepare for that So with Joe we got a got through everything except for when I kind of shift like very specific pro day training. He really only left like a week early. And not next week we were just GonNa really specifically be working on to produce rips so I think joe is handled this process really well but it was all normal It it basically got a week short and the only thing missing is a pro day. And that's not gonNA affect anything for him And so I think it's been pretty pretty seamless and He's got homework assignments in terms. Of just you know learning more about the league and breaking down and and I think he's GonNa be positioned to have a great year which is always about. Is there any regret it all over now throwing in India for him because of this no I mean no and not much ever because I don't think any decisions are made at his level or are due to how would throw in person in particularly environment in India? Which is just kind of. You can't win. Indy throwing less. You can screw it up but you can't win it and so now there wasn't he was. He got here a month after everybody else. You Know National Championship. He's got a parade and You know he went and visited the family so he showed up really a month late and After you know typical guys got out here. And you don't even really thrown for a couple of weeks and we were using into it. Kinda knowing that. He's at the top of the draft. There's no point in rushing a bunch of workouts and getting Getting ready to throw in India. Nothing it's difficult in that you need to practice it but it just getting yourself like an imposition crackers and do great. In India. There was no point in doing that. And Yeah he was supposed to have a protest on April third What him missing. Anything Grand Buddy do you think? Have you gotten any feedback from him on what it's been like doing the facetime or the meeting type of interviews that they're allowing now got a lot of guys doing it and I've also got back from a lot of coaches? You were doing those meetings and like me You can have an authentic conversation. Goes along as you want. And that's a very normal thing right for people to facetime or people zoom so So hard and it's been cool. You guys some guys knocked with Joe but but all of these guys do. They're having guys get on. You Know Kinda got on the board talk and ask questions and So it's pretty pretty interactive and I come from the business world and so for me. An in person meeting isn't too different than the zoom meeting As long as recessional there. So I think it's been going really well for a lot of guys and Some of these coaches are like a lot too. So what happens is training now then. Does it just go right into alright? I'm getting ready to play. Nfl football now. And like I'm not getting ready to throw it a pro day or do any sort of drills anything like that. I'm just are have you. Just try to turn him now. Where it's like okay we're getting ready for an NFL season. Joe Is Different. From the day he got here. This was always the plan. We were not preparing for the combine or for his day. We were getting ready rookie year so even in the beginning I had an ease into throwing and I had him workout like running jumping letting I had him working out Sam Josh Tile instead of. Because there was no point he wasn't going to run the L. drill forty so I didn't even have lit and run with the other guys. It's not because he's better than them. Because there's number one pick because I literally I don't want him wasting time doing those drills. You can work on mobility and rotation and Beijing your core and so he basically did the whole time grow irises. I is the his plan. Was that of a guy coming off of his first year veteran workout so he did all that stuff with those yachts and so we again. This what it's like. I think the least affected by all this because we grew everything as I mentioned earlier. We were going to spend a week preparing for his like last week. We were like a week preparing for the day. Everything else that we've been doing has been getting ready for your breaking down the different coverages in different divisions understanding how the League works Just getting him ready to play. And it's not all the drills are different but I just didn't WanNa waste any time in with the guys that are high techs. Why they're not gonNA run forty and do all that stuff. You're talking about twenty or thirty hours. They'RE GONNA put in over the course of two months on working on their starting to forty and working on the cone drill like the L. Drill. I think the bad investment. So if it's a Trevor Lawrence next year or whoever it is on the road I just. I'm not a believer in like wasting time on that. If it's not GonNa Affect Your stock at all Muslim. Best that time and the things that you read it. Platt Dot. Hi You're probably GONNA be stuck with the plow so on paper then he should really hit the ground running. I Yeah I think any of these guys are talking. I mean you know. He's he's got rehab going on. And it sounds like it's going great so he's probably in the motive getting ready to play. And it's been healthy throwing a bunch. He's working out with John. Belk works with a lot of that so I would assume John Baxter Herbert's doing the same thing. And so yeah I think. Most of these guys You know Joe Different because I you know he's. He's set himself apart of the topic but he's guys potential personal picks the quarterback You know they they. I don't think this is gonNA Slow down their development more. I just think it's GonNa make it more difficult for others teams to evaluate them and there's GonNa be evil reaching a little bit on picks so like I mean so this is I mean for him right. Now we know where he's positioned and everything else. Would you be stunned? If he wasn't the first pick in the draft to Cincinnati in three weeks I would but not based off of knowing anything inside. I just I haven't I haven't really talked to the bengals. I don't really talk Joe about it. I just I'm kind of reading. You know making the assumption that the The connecting the dots anybody else's connecting. So for that I'd be I'd be surprised But I also don't I mean a player like in that they didn't WanNA trade that pick. I'm sure they can get A bunch of good stuff. Where it's you so I'm not really sure when I bengals it was that was under Marvin Lewis. This is a new staff. I I'm not people connecting me the bengals. I put it there a long time ago. Chris Short amount of time. I'm not really dialed in how they do things and you know things have changed a lot over the years and so not. Sure what they're saying but Just as a casual regular football fan. Yeah it'd be surprised because It does make a lot of a lot of levels. You think he's good with going there now Yeah I think so I you know. I don't think he's really had a chance to Dan or other teams really upset me but Yeah I I I would assume so okay I I do WanNa ask before I let you go. I want to ask you about them because this is a really unique situation right like you've got. Maybe the greatest player ever to play the spore leaving there after twenty years and I mean really becoming an icon in that area on the level of I mean a Bill Russell or a Larry Bird and I would think for a lot of kids that would be a pretty heavy seen to step into. Why do you think jared's qualified to step into that? Why is he? I guess maybe not even qualified the right word. Maybe why is he? Why why? Why is this temperament right to step into a situation like that I think there's a lot of that's going on behind the scenes that makes me who he is. Just a lot of people didn't don't know you know he had a pretty tough childhood and upbringing and Had to had to grow up really really fast and and get really matured. A young age Didn't really have an option in that and so right there you go from a foundation standpoint. The state has been very independent for a long time Second thing is is very subtle you know. He's married as as usually aren't married. college sweetheart and You know just as a great very organized life and actually the galaxy. Mary Kennedy for father is the president of the Houston Rockets. And so now you go well. It's for last five. Six years has been around the genes hardens and Chris Paul's and Williams college around that stuff right and that's even bigger than that's like that. Is Tom Brady level? You know these superstar. Nba guys just how big that is In a dinner and all that and so you just been exposed to a lot of it and And then you know yeah all these kids idolize on radio and so then. He goes and doesn't flinch and back them up and you know. Tom Loved Him and they had a great relationship. And so he kinda went right into I But he's also played football. You know like a couple of years ago they won the admiralty. Beat a really good Damascene and they cause like Jerry went off and kind of one. The game So he's got a little things that make him up and then you look at him. I just say like he's he's upper-echelon arm town the NFL. He's you know he's right there in the top category in terms of just being able to sit in accuracy. Tiny nothi strongest blow you away. You know I'm not an arms in the League but top ten and jobs are ability to throw the football but it we want really insistently. Now I've seen for years now so I look at all of these. Did he go man? His name is move around by times. Really sneaky. Athlete like Aaron Rodgers Runner And he's big enough and he's played in multiple systems and he spent a year in a room with Tom. Brady Marty. And you know mcdaniel's some grateful minds and and it really didn't West so I don't know that I could sit here. And say like and this is why I guarantee he'll be on his second year in the NFL. Of course not but this is why it would make sense to me That there is a comfort level. Giving him a real real opportunity this Because HE HASN'T FLINCH. Got The makeup and physically. He's capable of doing it now. It's actually on him to go and do it and And that's what I'm excited I. I'm interested about this though. Right like the the the thing was and. I'm sure you probably agree with. This is some degree. The maybe the offense he played in a at Auburn wasn't the best fit for him for WHO. He is a quarterback. Do you think this could be a case of a kid going from a system that maybe he wasn't a great fit foreign college to now landing in the right system and the right place in the pros thousand percent gone games got a big contract. Won won a national championship But that system is not canoes and even addressed that Auburn I worked with. Bonex is a quarterback at Auburn. Now they got a new coordinator in that they're letting him run And so but you know jerk late in doesn't Rhonda offense which is not conducive to playing in the NFL and anything. Art riles offense at Baylor. Eating less right and so in my opinion had the least amount of stuck unlearn when he got up and then he started last offseason and in in the room within. Its Tom Brady and Brian Hoyer. How about this stat between those two guys? Thirty one years of experience. Twenty seven in that system. So you go all right. So he's learning from those people and great quarterback coach in there. Who just for Sam Darnold and you ever for jets and so you know how to communicate with these young guys and Jerry had no rush to get on the field and physically. He had the best preseason. I think In the league last year and so they just giving him things and he's been maximizing the opportunity and so you start to do that over and over and it's a pattern and so now you're in this system with these people they bring back He's going to be well positioned to Take thing and raw sound like you sound like. You're really excited to see what happens. I mean I've heard you talk so highly about him but I've always felt usually way way better than he was author and getting a system where they're telling you. Hey here's here's how you do it. Usually you go with them. All people people think that That it would be cool to play quarterback and just deliver quote wherever you want in my college system. I played for my crisis. Kind of the creator of the spread offense I do a ton of touchdown and a ton of interceptions was you know we'd say. Hey We got the post over here. You can take that one got out Baxter. I feel good about this dunk. It right here know somebody hot and just kick it out there kind. Where wherever you feel and that's fun and that's cool. The problem is at this age. These guys need to be cold if this coverage go here to hear to hear that coverage go there and if I can memorize that and execute it more likely to have success and put the ball in the right guys near so we Jiri now this this type of structure in this type of offense Yeah I think we're going to see them back version of him that no one's ever seen and it's GonNa come at a really good time for a really good awesome awesome all right well. Hey Jordan now is appreciate the time he's a recurring guests. For a reason. We love having him on. Tell the people and I'm sure everybody knows by now but tell people where they can find you. Yeah just for me is just instagram Jordan. Palmer in Cooped up in my house and working on taking everything that's in my head and putting it onto the street and And so for all young quarterback next week for the parents to Basically taking what I can't and dumping that online and allowing people really all over the world. Because I'm getting DMC quarterbacks countries asking to get better and so I'm excited here over the next month or two as well locked up To figure out a way to Share what I've learned with With more people with Oprah players and the parents and So mice go best way to find that it's awesome. Thanks appreciate it all right. Always appreciate Jordan coming out. He's the best fantastic insight on Sam darnold on Josh Allen on Kyle Allen on Jared Steadham Enjo- borough and of course just great inside and the position in general and how guys are handling this really really strange circumstance okay you guys know how the mailbag is worth the last few weeks. Because we're not in studio because of the everything going on. Of course we're going back to old school way of doing this. That means we're doing the six pack and that means I'm putting the call for questions on twitter on Tuesday. I ask you fill my time line up with film. I mentioned up with questions I six if I pick yours. I give you a like on twitter. That means they hit that little heart there and you get an answer here on the pod question number one from Jake sprigs Esperance's e fresh as the show goes on with the NFL draft still scheduled to take place April Twenty third of the twenty fifth. What types of teams have could have an advantage with new ways of communication slash? Drafting this year. I think the teams that have the advantage. This year are the ones that have been aggressive in the past and getting rookies playing time. That have a blueprint for doing that. Seattle over p Carroll's tenure because they're sort of simple on both sides of the ball has been really really good at that right like so like you look go if you go back to the Early Years Bobby. Wagner was was kind of the the quarterback of the defense as a rookie in two thousand and twelve Russell. Wilson was quarterback offense of course and they wound up going to the divisional round the plight round of the playoffs and they won The Super Bowl in the second year for both those guys for Wagner and Wilson and what they did last year with decay mccafe. I've just had a way of getting guys in the field and getting guys to produce early and so the teams that have track record of getting guys going early What's usually equates to teams having maybe a little bit of a simpler system. Those'll be the teams have the advantage this year because they'll be able to identified. That guy can come in and contribute right away. And they can project them right neuronal cells. I think it's more difficult to do that. In Twenty Twenty. Because you're not going to have an off-season and so and Seattle did it and look Seattle. Did it in two thousand eleven again with was Richard Sherman when in in a in a period of time when there was a lockout and so I have the experience that have done that in the past. And I've been good at it in the past. I think it helps. I also think teams that went through the lockout year. It's GonNa help them With coaches so like you know. You're John Harbaugh Baltimore. Your bill ballot. Check in New England. Your Your Sean Payton. In New Orleans coaches who went through it Mike McCarthy in Dallas now went through in Green Bay your head coaches who went through it before I think earn an advantage question number two j mills as at James K Mills. The third with it being reported that the chiefs are only one hundred and seventy seven dollars under the cab. Shout out to field. Yates my buddy from ESPN report. And that where does that mean for? Signed draft picks or free agents than the Neville event of an injury. I have one hundred seventy seven dollars and cap space when we get past the draft on. They're gonNA work this out one way or another my guess is they. They work to extend Chris Jones able to create some cap space. There they work to do a deal with Sammy Watkins. Or maybe they move on from Sammy. Watkins that's going to create. Some space is not going to be like this forever. They're going to do something You know to names again. The Chris Jones is in the Sammy. Watkins there's going to be. I think money moved around there And I think what's really interesting about what it means. Patrick mahomes going forward. Does he do an extension? This off season is it visible for them to do that because they are going to need. Space to sign draft picks. They are going to need space. So we're sort of in that emergency fund when the season gets here so I wouldn't expect them to be sitting there for much longer with one hundred and seventy seven dollars in cap space but did look funny when when that was tweeted out the other day question number. Three from derm right. Ff that's at Durham F F. How much the offseason pro? Offseason training camp preseason regular season will be impacted. I know it's a pure guess. Could the season be cancelled games without or limited number of fans? Do you think the NFL contingency plan of course we went over this out the top. A say that they've been focused completely on the idea of going forward with a full season as is It seems unlikely to me. They haven't at least talked about the idea of a contingency plan again. They have to put on that front that they are going for business as usual. But I just sit here and tell you. There's no way that they haven't at least talked about some sort of contingency plan. My guess would be that the offseason programs are completely wiped out and at the NFL probably starts up at training camp but again that's pure. I don't have an idea. I'm not a doctor scientist. What what's what's interesting to me is sort of what we've heard over the last few days. Which is that. This could sort of dissipate over the summer and then come back in the fall which is sort of a scary prospect on. Italy's raised the possibility that we're far from out of the woods on this question number three from Frank O. L. Tanko that's Frank O. L. Tanko. What are the chances the rams scrap there? He brand like I did in Nineteen ninety-one one. There's a received nowhere. Close the negativity. I gotTa tell you. When San Francisco by rolled out that Logo Nineteen ninety-one? There was lots of negativity. Just we didn't have social media the bitch on I don't think they scrapped their rebrand. I'm withholding judgment until the uniforms. Come out I don't like the La logo. I do like the rams head. I do think that they should go with the rams head as their primary logo. You know and again like I'm withholding judgment until uniforms. I want the uniform look like the eighties nineties. Rams uniforms do if that's what they look like on the field. I've got no problem with that. You can deal with the logo question number four. This is from. Oh you know what? I'm one behind in these. I think actually this is a question number five from GM WANNABE. That's at GM. WanNa be hearing some rumblings about the Vikings trading up in the first round. Could you see them? Trading up in the mid teens mid to late teens if a top four offensive tackle the top three receiver falls and then trading back from twenty five to recoup the draft capital not impossible. I think it's probably more likely they'll be striking distance. Four in the top. Three receivers in one of the top four tackles My guess is one of the top. The top four tackles again like I said off the top probably going to top thirteen or so picks how you have teams in Brendon fringe of the top. Ten in Cleveland in the jets at ten and eleven that I think would be of a mind to take a tackle so my my feeling. Is You probably have to move up too far from twenty two to get to in position to get yourself in position to take a tackle? You could wind up moving yourself in a position though to get Jerry Judy or to get a CD lamb and so that seems more realistic to me. If you do move up then yeah you certainly could move back from twenty five to recoup draft capital. I think once they get their receiver in place to play opposite. Adam feeling which is a need now with Stefan digs gone I certainly think you're gonNA see them. Build up the offensive and defensive lines a little bit but I don't think that they're in striking distance. Get one of the four tackles. I do think they're striking distance to get one of the top receivers finally question number six for Moose blocked that's at Moose underscore block. What J. Trays? Do you think might happen that. Nobody's talking about pay attention to the veteran market guys. I think it's going to be difficult to trade on draft day. I think it's going to be difficult for teams to move around too much because the communication issues that are going to exist. You may see less trading because of it pay attention to the veteran market. This is something that a couple of people have brought up to me especially with teams coaches might be on the hot seat. If you have needs to fill you may need to do it. Through veteran acquisition based on the circumstances were in remember we did not know what it was that we did not know that it was going to be like this. We had an idea but we didn't know it was going to be like this When Free Agency was ramping up so there are teams that have holes still on the rosters. They're looking at it and saying to themselves. How do we fill these and doing it with a rookie? Might not be optimal right now. Because you are not going to have April and May June all likelihood to get these guys ready to go. It's going to be tougher. To incorporate rookies in twenty twenty. And so if you're a team that's got an issue as far as your you need to tackle. You need linebacker. Whatever it might be you might be better served to flip somebody draft capitola going. Get a veteran so I think that there could wind up being more active veteran market than trading of picks right around the NFL draft. Something to pay attention to appreciate you guys coming out hoping everybody out. There has good health. Everybody staying safe. Everybody's following the guidelines. More time appreciate you guys coming out always and I want your feedback. How can we make this better distraction for you guys? During this time anything I can do to make this more entertaining. 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BBC Radio 4 Extra's Amanda Litherland on her Podcast Radio Hour, comedy and interviewing

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BBC Radio 4 Extra's Amanda Litherland on her Podcast Radio Hour, comedy and interviewing

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The My flat washing machine on the best times record links refocused anyway just wanted to add that I envied Amanda a few weeks ago and she very corny voiced needs to be costing house circus in central London right to the top of the building and set out on the terrace so they if some traffic noise and was a bit windy up there but you can hear us got to know and and yeah it was great speech Amanda and ask about Poe costs and comedy and her dog enjoy nine presenter extra so my background thing. I was very lucky in the IVA on BBC fiction trading in twenty thirty. I'm when I did that I originally do. I want us to get into TV. I'm so I find out unique. I went to did medieval history useful for jobs. I'm so yeah kind of the opposite radio so how about skills in terms of reduction of Latino radio or have you seen radio show but like kind of gym. I just checked out. I did a lot of comedy investors in sketch comedy and that's kind of why do most is going to comedy TV. Somebody stand up in comedy cardinal touch muscle so since Jane Ah Chan Signal thing. I enjoy wanted to speak on comedy where the team which it's amazing on yet I didn't you did place. It's TV on here so I do two face offs. TV stay radio. I went on the show. I have with good words just chip. I really hated intently kind of eating when you're still standing around and taking things over and over again like Chicago all the digits whenever I get it done so that I can. I can still view the slapdash. Sometimes I have to try not. Let's be among wild. Try Retake thank you. This is all pretty busy niche yesterday edgy tv what was it was that an exactly and I honestly never would've wanted to into aging and then semi basement met TV but I got to change over experience just because it said magazine show you get issues. Galvin stuff very many people and so that was great great and then after that it's very simple it was from some of the sued Mike I I know really lookie and being able to get things sweep. Take Twenty Year entity year placement for extra so unless why do the same social it was like five years so for extra four point trails which such the real skill realized just being able to package something into full ins and get hustle is in Rishon Citizen Doc being going. It's difficult. I'm not one of the best show make is there. Some people are not credible. I don't do it. It's really it goods but it's yeah it's really good training to take compliance. We say so that's gauge and definitely I think that the book into as I didn't know it was really good home for yeah so we used to make extra which is a prerecorded station so we I think stitch together I can you huge source of and and also has it all nice that I also do some GPD introducing Swedish and views long. Doesn't I was figuring out. 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Mason and Ireland [hr 2]

Mason & Ireland

45:21 min | 3 years ago

Mason and Ireland [hr 2]

"It's Saturday night. This is the best my favorite time of year. Like I, I was just telling John Friday night Trojans versus Washington state must win for USC. Saturday of been invited to check out the l. AFC which I walked by that stadium when I was at the Rams game yesterday just yet must be spectacular, medium. And then Sunday macaroni does. Who is the one who invited you is in here doing in here. It's Rams versus chargers on Sunday. So big week and we're also, I don't know. Maybe we will do the dodgers tomorrow. Greg, you still up for doing the dodgers tomorrow. You're you guys are backing off of that? Well, it's just like crazy week, but I think he tried to leave me. So yeah, I tried really best. Let's do it and then five o'clock tomorrow night beers at the shortstop on sunset. And if they lose tonight, if the dodgers lose tonight tomorrow night's game, we'll be code red critical. Yeah, Kershaw, right. It's Kershaw. Yet those numbers you were reading about how these guys hit review are are very, very disappointing. Now, why would you put reu- out there if you're if you're an analytics team like the dodgers is and those numbers are accurate, which I assume they are. Why put him out there? Well, I tell you, you, here's, here's going to hear the flip side of it. Yeah. Okay. Dodgers effacing facing John gray. They face them twice. He beat the dodgers allowing four runs and five and two third innings on August tenth. Then last week they beat them dodgers lifetime versus John gray, get this Cody Bellinger six for eight lifetime against John gray. Wow, six for eight. Can't get him out Machado two for five with a Homer max Muncie two for four with a Homer yet at one in one of the games early this year Puig five of fifteen with home or JT five eighteen. So you're talking about a pitcher that the dodgers have hit exceeding. You're hearing your now says on both pitchers. I have three words for you bet the over. Yeah, I think you're right. There's going to be some scorns. Do you think Greg, scorn tonight they're going to be a lot of scoring tonight. This is going to be. You said John gray and revolt get destroyed here and with the ball's. Moving in Dodger Stadium, that thing is going to be a lot of home runs head to head Rockies lead the season series. Nine, two, seven. So this'll be the final three games in this is the little thing. But last night I didn't realize until esker set on the game broadcast. But with the cardinals winning that game, they won the season series. So if there's a tie owing the dodgers and the cardinals and they need a one game playoff that was decided in Saint Louis. All right. The Rockies are very different Ecorse field than they are on the road. They have a nine, twenty six. Oh, p s with ten home runs at home this month, but only a five seventy five Opie s on the road in September, so that bodes well. And then I wanted to point out the the way the series go from here. There's a dozen games left for the dodgers. They get the Rockies for three at the ravine starting tonight. Then Padres. Three, a Dodger Stadium this weekend, then three and Arizona. Three at San Francisco de are just dive bombing right now. The Rockies are here for three. Then at Zona for three, then they get the Phillies really good team for four, it course. And then final series at home three against the nationals and the cardinals. This is the best news of all they're tied for the wild card. Yeah, cardinals are in Atlanta tonight. Braves for three. They're playing for the number two seed in the National League playoffs home to the giants for three then home to Milwaukee for three and at the cubs for three cubs and brewers are playing for the NFL central title. So there is a lot at stake. They're playing three really good teams with something to play for in the next two weeks. But here's one thing that the cubs brewers thing may be decided by. By the time that they get their, you know what I'm with the cardinals get. There's three games separating the brewers and the car on last weekend. And and by the way, the other team is the leader for the wild card, right one is the division leader and the other one is right now. Milwaukee was both being, yeah. As of right now, Milwaukee, the wildcard there, two and a half games behind the cubs. And then the the second wildcard is a tie between the dodgers and the cardinals. I still think the cardinals have the most difficult schedule of the three teams. So Greg, are you familiar with that report? They were talking about last night that some of the dodgers are upset about playing time. Well, it makes sense. You have so many great guys on that team and they can't play every day your every single day. It's a righty. Verse lefty. Matchup are left leftovers. Righty matchup. So guys like Cody, Bellinger and MAC, I have to sit every single game or or sit against lefties and start against jock doesn't get to play or Taylor doesn't get to play, and he's been really hot recently. I thought so this, this is the most difficult part of Dave Roberts job is getting those guys to buy into the fact that the front office is driving these decisions. I heard something interesting. We all know that the dodgers have an option. Fourth year option on Dave Roberts day have yet to pick up BUSTER only speculated today on the baseball tonight podcast that the giants are targeting Dave Roberts as a potential next manager. Wow. What and they would blow Boccioni I'll Boches got one year left on his deal. They haven't decided title haven't decided if they wanna bring them back, they may want to go a different direction if they do. It's Roberts if they offer Roberts and extension. So in other words, passed this year, he may not take it because Boches contract is up next year in the giants are really interested in Dave Roberts being a manager was that one of the seventeen teams he played for? Yes, he did play for the job. But that shows you how well respected. Dave Roberts is in the in the league. And I said, many times if if for some reason he's not the dodgers manager, he'll be a manager somewhere almost instantaneously. Do you think the same is true of Mike socia- if they blow him out? No, I think he's done. I think social is going to retire. I would so good analyst? Yes. That's what he should do. Yes, really good. He would be a fantastic analyst, but I think the in the what's new, what's next front off in front office driven, not nobody's going to get a salary like he was making for the angels anymore. As a manager in big league. Baseball, I think is best bet is to be an analyst. He'd be a great one. Would you ever forgive Dave Roberts if he went to become the giants managed? I would because I wouldn't. I would forgive him because wait a minute. Dodger fans have been building a rail to run them out of town in on for for. That's your fan base for every coach in all of Greg, you know that oil Hershiser pitched for the giants. Right. I know. So why didn't you backs him? He says, I see he did a lot of great things for us. I think dodgers Roberts has been the manager for three seasons, and if they make the playoffs this year, he would have made the playoffs. All three. What are you? I, I'm not saying he should go. Never forgive him. If he goes to the giants dark toll pickup his option. How can you not forgive? And then now he's a giant. I don't. I, I hate the giants. I don't hate Dave Roberts. No, I don't hate him against Luke Walton that he came from the warriors. No, I don't have any problem with the warriors that they're not the rival of the Lakers the if if he was if you went to the Celtics or something like that, that's a whole different story, but the warriors that's not a rival. Yeah, that makes. Dodger fans to understand that we've got a really good manager at this moment by the way you used for Keighley. See, I'd never worked for. I worked for Fox Sports radio, but you worked for Don Martin who runs it? Well. We arrive note, they hate him rests. They they, they don't let big rice, but he got into ESPN. But here's the thing I hate Marcellus because he went to. Impossible. I love that one. You hate the the, the Marcellus. If he's out there the the interesting about what you're suggesting Greg is that you would hold it against A Roberts if you went to the giants, that scenario would only play out if the dodgers passed on him. Not the other way round. Sure and that, but it doesn't matter if you will be able to get jobs him, don't go to the giants. Even if the dodgers said don't go Roberts. Thanks for playing. You go to. And I like him and I don't want to have anything to do with anybody that was a giant. I hated every giant. No, I came down here in this particular case. I don't Jason show again. I hate the giants, but if the dodgers don't pick up, Dave Roberts option and he goes to the giants. I'm not gonna. Hey, sir, rob, you found it impossible to root for Jeff Kent. I was not Jeff Kent. Ken. He was a crank, but he he delivered a lot of big head when he hit a home run, you're happy. But at the same time you like, got it. Had Wilson, you never like Brian? Yeah, just great. You had one good year and then he was alright, he defected from the giants. You hate him. It's just because he would you get them. You see that giant air. BUSTER Posey came down here, you'd fall in love with him in a minute, you hundred percent. He'll actually, no, he's not the same guy, lost control of your motion, lost control my. Computer heatedly level or hating tied, don't want my manager. I love Dave Roberts. I'm fine with Dave Roberts. I don't want him to go anywhere if the dodgers let him go. Find another job. Don't go to the giants. That's just the most. I feel Notting I I will forgive day. Job if the dodgers don't keep Guan and got fired, I would wish him well, wherever he ended up even felt Celtics. Yeah, of course, Mike Brown Raymond round. Are you here. Greg guy. Good guy. Sure. Not a good coach. Mike Deane, Tony fired now, coach of the year, I never liked Tony. Oh God, you know, he was in Tony. I was upset when Dan Tony got hired on here and I was happy when he got fired yet. So how do you hate him now? I don't hate him. Probably I have not much Tony. What's up separate. That's the hate. Mike. Shea portion of, hey, you're on the hate my for the day. Hey, we got some fascinating. Fascinating Lakers news. Well, you know, media days in a week. I know one day from today. We're interviewing LeBron. I don't even know what I'm going to say. Well, what's what's the fascinating news that you have right now? Oh, oh funny. You should ask. What's the answer? I'll tell you next Mason and Ireland. ESPN LA. Very good. That's what every Trojans fan is doing today. We'll circle back around to that, the Trojans getting lacked at Austin. But right now. Brandon Robinson, you know, Brandon Robinson. I do not know Brandon host of scoop radio, oh writer for b. ball society spent seen on CNN MSNBC CBS's SPN NBA TV also in the past he's written for net slamming planet. Vernet slamming planet. I'm sure I know who it'd be s and the source respect magazine. So yesterday he was here in Los Angeles. Okay. And he said that LeBron k. D. And cow Kuzina were altogether yesterday LeBron Kevin Durant and Kyle Kuzma. Correct. K. at a filming downtown Katie and LeBron's crew were there k. d. will be a Laker next summer book it again, not confirming anything source seemed adamant I downgrade and is highly considering it at best. Long season ahead lodge can happen. Well, Kevin Durant has he -bility to become a free agent of the season. So it's it's it. It could happen theoretically, but here's a, here's let me read this. This is the big ones spoke to a source today who confirmed Kevin Durant will be LA Laker next year we'll be quote just like LeBron planned his move to LA a year or more earlier. Katie is doing the same right now. They wanna form the best duo in the NBA and set up Katie to be the face of the Lakers post LeBron that's a very exciting rumor, but but let me what's his name, ton of sense brand. Robinson, I so the Brandon Robinson. Okay. No one accept any fake. Like there are a lot of fake Brandon Robinson's out there do not fall for that. What I would say about Brandon's tweets is that. Of course, he could be right, but until like I can tell you that until the Brian actually signed with the Lakers there were people worried that he wasn't gonna do it. You know, they weren't going to get him. So. It, it's premature to say that it's done because he can't even sign it yet. So you can wish for it. You can hope for it. But like you mentioned in one of those a lot can change between now and July and in July is when we find out, you know what I mean? He can't sign anything until July. A lot could happen between now and then so what is it? But it's a fun rumor to kick her thing about. NBA players. Now, we know now that LeBron had long been planning to come to Los Angeles brush was, but I'm telling you clearly actually agreed to do it. They were, they were nervous. They're worried. I don't know. Magic was at his house on the very first close in deal making presentation, enclosing closing the deal. He was the only team that they met with. I strongly believe the Lakers new. Okay. LeBron was coming in the same way k. d. who is an unbelievably savvy businessman. I don't know if you know this, but he's invested a ton of money into startups in Silicon Valley. He's very much in that I'm planning the rest of my life mode. That's the beauty of NBA players are where MB NBA players take control their own career. Your career go play, where you wanna play lineup, what you wanna do after your career. That's exactly what's going on. With Katie. I that that does not surprise me. Let's flipping. Why would he leave the warriors. I think because he gets no credit for their success. Well, he's won back-to-back talents. He's been the finals MVP both years, but don't you think don't you think that's credit? I know. But there's a lot of people that say, week, move Stephen, a Smith will never let that go. Weakest move in the history of sports was Katie to the team that beat him in the Western Conference finals. Yeah, I think by the way, the other guy, apparently Jimmy Butler is just done. What did you see the latest news that came out of Minnesota today? Karl Anthony towns was expected to sign a beaks extension sometime in the next three weeks has come out and said, he's not signing anything until they figure out what they're doing with Butler. Well, Butler and towns and Wiggins do not get along. I've heard that and it sounds like it's towns and Wiggins who don't get along with Butler. In Butler can be a free agent at the end of this year. Right. And this headline is Jimmy Butler. Rumor timber wolves meeting with star is last ditch effort. They've got one last meeting with and by the way he's getting traded. If you're Minnesota and right now you of your last ditch effort. This is this may be Kyrie. This may be Kyrie. So if you were the Lakers, would you give up young pieces for Jimmy Butler? I'll tell you mix. It makes better right now. Sure does, but you don't know what they do, but you don't know if you're going to get him. Yeah, he gets traded somewhere. He gets happy all the sudden he's Paul charge. Yeah. Would you give up young assets when I can't? You can't really say, yeah, I, I don't know. Yeah, I, but, but I can tell you theoretically, it'd be hard, but don't you think this is potentially Kyrie if they're having a last ditch meeting and they're young, Jimmy Butler. I think he's twenty seven. Let me just make. Are you. You just guessing I'm it's a right around. I think he's a couple of years older than that, but but it would be hard because I really wanna see these young guys play twenty nine twenty nine. Yeah. It'd be hard by the way trade now agreed to patriots or sending Cleveland a fifth round pick. And if Gordon is an active for ten games, patriots, get back a late round, pick from the Browns know that according to Adam Schefter. So now all of a sudden the patriots have rainy moss park to a dynamic stretch the field, big tall, strong receiver for Tom Brady to throw to. And remember, Jillian element is still out for two more games. Okay. Wait a minute. My mind just ran away from John. Okay. So Brennan Robinson reporting k. d. is going to become a Laker for next season that gives us LeBron and k d you trade for Jimmy Butler right now, all the sudden you've got Butler k. d. in LeBron. Can you afford all three. You know, you've got enough room for a MAC slot next year, but you got a bunch of guys on really tough. You're right. And now that you've maneuvered out of the wall, Dan contract? No, I think they only have room for for k. D. And and so that might be a reason not to get in the, the really only have ruined for one more superstar. And I think I, we'd have to ask Coon, but I think you're not allowed to move any of those guys on one year deals until December fifteenth. So if oh, so you, you can't even if Butler became available, be hard to make the numbers work. Yeah, without the without the Lou l. dang contract. You're talking about enough space for one max deal, not to max Steel's. So in that case, I think we have to wait for Katie to get here. What do you think you want to wait for? I think Greg. What do you think? Wait for Katie? I think you wait for him if you can, what if he never comes, that's the problem. Then you know what's interesting Kevin Durant is he's from Washington DC. Yep. He went to college for one year in Texas. Yep. Got drafted by Seattle played there for a year, went to Oklahoma City. And if he became a free agent, he according to your report, he may end up in LA. I, that's a lot of different geography. This is me. I think the Lakers already know. Now you're at? Oh, absolutely. I think they knew about LeBron I think they're got no about Katie eight novella bright a minute. Wait a minute I have telling I'm telling you they had to know about LeBron why is Magic Johnson parked in his driveway? Why is that the only person that Katy met with only met with the lake? Let me ask you this. Yeah, last week, Anthony Davis fired his agent and hired Rich. Paul LeBron's agent. Cause ain't something for sure. All right, but who rather have then. Compare Anthony Davis. Twenty-three Kevin Durant, I think is thirty maybe twenty eight, five years younger and Anthony Davis is a big guy. Well, I mean, I think first of all, I don't think you can go wrong right. I think you get the one that you can get. I don't see, but I don't see clear path. You can just sign k. d. I don't see a clear path for how you get Anthony Davis who years you get Katie free into your right. You get Katie for free. You'd have to give something up in a deal for Anthony Davis. Now it's still Anthony Davis. I just don't see why the pelicans would be highly motivated to move Anthony Davis with two years left on his deal. What's the? What's the motivation? I hear that all the time that he could leave in two years, right? But at the so at some point, if he's going to leave, you've got to kick start the rebuild you gotta get why you gotta train them while you have leverage. So so this year, if you wait till next year, then it's a ticking clock, you know, if you put them into next year, if he if you if you have an indication from him that he's not resigning with you, why not trade him? Yeah, you could. You could. I can see why they trade them this summer, right? That's what that's what it would be traded as he'd only have one rather than next summer, right. Do you think katie's? Sorry, AD is the same guy now because at seventy five games the last two years in the sixties every time before that he's a big guy. He is very, he's twenty three. That's insanely. Yeah, but he has. He does big is usually if he's twenty five, twenty five and he does big guys have knee issues and problems like that. He's he's played seventy five games the last two years though. Is that who he is or is he back to the sixty? Five? Okay. I'm taking you a d. Even though he's older, yes, I'm taking Katie over eighty. Anthony Davis is also one of the great defensive players in the NBA. Blacking chats and rebounding and controlling the paint. But Durant is unbelievable. Ran is just they're both not five players go wrong with you. You can't go wrong with either one, but that really takes Jimmy Butler. I Jimmy Butler is really nice player, but he is not. Katie is not to kind of not protect your caps rice. Coming up next, let's circle back to the Trojans. They're circling the wagons. Even as we speak in. I'm not sure what the writing series of what you do next, like what you do today to fix the mess that they're in. Until you have an answer. Oh, Mason, Ireland, ESPN LA will. All right. So is right. This is con- you know, imagine dragons you gotta know. Imagine dragons by the way announced today musical guests on the season premiere of SNL. My favorite show cognac all Adam driver going to host Konya going to be the musical guests end of September. Excellent, excellent. The before we get into USC and there are many things. Greg cool. What I don't wanna screw this guys name. What is the name of the guy coming in here on Wednesday. I have it right here. It's wait. You don't have this name at the top of your list. This is an incredible, incredible. So last week, double accomplishment. I, I had a story in fasttrack by the way faster coming up in thirty minutes. I had a story for Mason in fast track about a Domino's pizza chain in Russia, then announced a promotion that if you're willing to get the Domino's logo tattooed on your person, that they would give you free pizza for life. Yes. His name is Christian Flora's. Okay. So I asked Mason at that went by the way the promotion. The Domino's promotion was such a hit that they had to shut it down after three weeks because too many people were getting Domino's logo debt dude on them. I said, you think anybody would do that for us. Do you think anybody would ever tattoo Mason and Ireland number one? Because we are as Todd Gurley. Out at the start of the show. The number one rated sports talk show in Los Angeles and the number one sport show in l. a. Mason in Ireland, do you think anyone would be willing to put Mason in Ireland number one on their person wanted identity to mmediately said, if I don't know, but if they do, I will let them come in and host fasttrack with us and you said Ono Tommy's going to get on every other station. And everybody said, no, it's long as its first of all anybody that gets the Mason in Ireland tattoo gets to do faster. Yes. So on Wednesday, Christian floors is coming in here because he sink Greg, a video over the weekend. Of getting an actual Mason in Ireland tattoo on one of his legs. It's unbelievable in real, it's unreal. And so he'll be in here on Wednesday, Christian Flora's is my hero, right? And if anybody else wants to do it, this is your opportunity and you know, look at Morales standards at your. I know what you're thinking. You're mad. You didn't think it this. I aren't. You wait a minute. Why? Why can't Keyshawn bed. Hey, can you? Could you ask or should floors? So we can have the morning show AM. What about the morning show? Yeah. Yeah. Kitty Keyshawn on the leg and he's sitting on there, but Keyshawn space on on their ass. He faced somebody's ass. Chris specializes in bits and he's a bit. So when he heard this biddy went damn. I didn't think of it. I think. Why are you at least be honest and admit that before you talk, I spoke with the guys this morning and I asked our boss, Dan, we gotta find a tattoo power to trade a tattoo of key. Shaun's face on my back. You're getting attached to of awesomely Audi now. No, I will not let the morning show be top that makes you an outrageous loser. No, no, no, no, it doesn't. It makes it interesting. I gotta tell you stir brandy the singer? Yes. Used to date Quinton Richardson, the basketball player, right? And at one point, a big tattoo of him, and then they broke up and they tattoo artists head to redo it as a cat. So Chris might reason telling you the story is if you put a tattoo Sean on your back, he show always know what is it turns on. He gets a job at FOX hosting show with Jason Whitlock then then you would have to get a cat at two hundred pounds just gonna point. If Keyshawn gets a job at FOX, I have a feeling his staff will be going with him. Oh, really? Yeah, that's what you are Keyshawn staff, I believe so that that I think you're selling yourself short there. My friend I consider Chris to be just Keyshawn style have a better question. Why. Is the impersonation for about of me from both the morning show like adult. Let's talk show. So what I'd like to buzz Boric show of this is our personal vetting would trail. Advantage breath while you're on your stats days? -ly it's nasal at all the I again, there was a lot wait a minute, whoa. Whoa. There was a lot of fury last week over certain things going on. Right. And that's right. And you and I had a conversation we made up, but you agree with us as you were at our side of the issue now? No, no, let's drop it. We add a specific line that you weren't supposed to bring up and he. Yeah. And then he just weeks ago when I said, don't do ESI. We go ID's on the air, but I mean, you're talking about passion. We're just doing an impression. It's all the you have to admit this tattoo thing was more successful than you you. I should have thought of this for the morning show since you brought up the thing I asked you not to bring and you've insulted me, do I get to have four meetings tomorrow morning with management to or yes, because we wish those upon anyone do it. Are you going to have meetings with management over me? No. Oh, no. Over the morning show doing our tattoo big Steeler tattoo. I think I'm thinking about, I'm trying to get all three guys now because shares out to, here's the thing you in here on Wednesday and meet Christian Florida. To put a key Diam who is other like guarantee you more people will get Mason in Ireland? Tattoos dog get Keyshawn tattoos. Don't do that. Oh, yeah. No, it's throw Shawn Johnson USC ledger down, LA's natives, dodge. Did you game on Saturday? Well, that was bad. He shunned pick them to win them. That's the thing he's part of the as he puts it the day to help pick this has. Oh, non-official today he's part of the day real. Was he part of the not picking Chris Petersen? I don't know about that, but that's our bid on the show is that he's part of the day. Did he listen for a little while this morning? He's not ready to throw Klay off the boat yet because part of the day. Oh, but we're already thought, I thought he, I know. I thought I think he had an interesting point though when he said, clay needs to threaten the staff. Yeah, good point. I thought, but I'd rather just get fired. I won some easing Friday night if they lose to zoo. Yeah. If they lose to us undefeated Chris, I mean, they haven't played. They played nobody. Yeah. No, it. But they score points see doesn't exactly Friday night if they lose at the Coliseum that should be. But how long did you listen for this morning? Joe, the entire always listen to when I drive my son to school and back. So I listen to you guys. I in twenty five minutes a day. I listened for ten minutes tomorrow. The ten minutes you earn here? Yes, tomorrow try to listen for thirty five minutes because we want you to listen, Wong younger. Yeah, it begins tomorrow morning at six tomorrow. I can actually listen. Listen, I gotta go. I gotta go help. My mom was something I'm not here to mantra. Now, Ross, I will prove your time spent listening John. I don't want any part of what you just said, but, but I, you dumped it. Yeah, you can't say, oh, listen longer. Okay. Thank you both. We both guys are idiot. No, no, no. We just have been around the business a lot, but speaking of USC. Steve, what would you if I made you in charge of USC football, I made you king of USC football for David Lynch. One calls you and says, Mason, you're in charge of the football team for damn frustrated. I don't know what to do with this mess. Fix it. What do you do today? What I do is what I was on clay's conference call last night. What I do is exactly what he said they were going to do, which is to have a big spirited practice today. No more light practices focus. It's a Monday, so it's a different week. You get a game going to say. They don't get an off day now. Right? Or data yesterday they right. They are going to practice hard today and that's what they should be. The harder they practice the better they will execute. Because right now that team is, I mean, special teams are disaster that's on John. Baxter, offensive line is a disaster. They had minus five rushing yards in that game. You know, Agassi wear did. I think the team did the team of my other team minus five, rushing God. Yeah. No, the team had minus five rushing yards in that game, but they'll Bill because of the. Yeah, because because of the Sachs, they've lost by double digit points, two weeks in a row. You cannot lose this game Friday night. You can't. I isn't Washington state the game that that got Sark no cut lane. No lane got fired with a blowout loss to Arizona state. Sark got fired because he came drunk to practice before the Notre Dame game, or I should say under the influence under the influence. Oh, gee, whatever we did, he claims it was more than just alcohol, but the. Yeah, I know. But then remarkably Sar was like, oh. Like six months went to Alabama to offense coordinator for the falcon one again yesterday. Yeah, but he's he's, he's not the reason he's alive building the liability. Yeah. I think that if you look at exactly what happened on Saturday, they allowed thirty four consecutive points. Yep, they got screwed a little bit on that safety call in the second quarter, but that's not enough that you still got your doors blown off in a marquee game. Oh, which reminds me. Okay. Coming up. Next I want to ask you about a play in college football over the weekend that everybody is is trumpeting as a brilliant play, and I thought it was crap why it is the most shown play on TV. Okay. Yesterday today I'll tell you about it next Mason. Ireland ESPN LA IDS PIN LA Mason. Ireland. It's a monster Monday. There's so much going on right now. I wanna point out again mentioned. So Greg says he doesn't care where we sit at tomorrow night's dodgers game, right? Saying you're, you're buying the tickets. Yeah, I'm buying the so I'm going to be behind home plate and you're going to be in the right field bleachers. Well, that's great. Be with the people out there and then to homerun, barring your Benach you'll help we. It's a critical series tomorrow. Five o'clock shortstop on Sunset Boulevard going to buy as many beers as people show up. Last time I bought maybe thirty beers. Thirty drinks. I'm not doing mixed drinks. No, no. Well, well, cocktails cocktails. It's gotta be beer that's tomorrow at the shortstop at five o'clock. All right. It's over the weekend, North Texas who who's a good small school football program. Spanked Arkansas, Arkansas, a rebuild. So North Texas. PM forty, four to seventeen, but the play everyone's talking about was a punt return by gaining Keegan brewer. Here's what happened brewer was back to receive a punt from Arkansas. He catches the ball. And just stands there. Nine never calls for a fair catch, but he stands there suggesting that he did, yes. In other words, he catches the ball and then relaxes his boxes, the catch. He said there was even one defender in front of them who said to him, why aren't they blow in the whistle? And then he, he takes a step and he walks like like, it's a fair catch. And then he just takes off sprinting all the Arkansas players assumed it was a fair latch. And by the time they figured out what was going on. Brewer was sprinting down the left sidelines for a touchdown. Everybody is heralding. This is a brilliant defensive plays a matter of fact, you just had made some watch it. It's the first time you've seen it the first word you said, brilliant, it's it's absolutely bright. Here's my problem with it. The reason you have a fair catch is so a player doesn't get killed right. In other words, the punter could just hang the ball up in the air for a really long time, and you could crush fair catch is always didn't exist, right? They put him in for player safety. The number one issue in football. These days is player safety. Now, the end result of this is going to be if a guy every special teams coach in the country is gonna tell his unit, his plant unit. If you don't see that guy, stick his hand in the air for fair catch, you stick him. You drill him as hard as you can drill them. And frankly, Steve, I'm surprised after they pulled this that Arkansas didn't t- off on the punter the quarterback the it's, you know what it intimate under under what circumstances. Because he often person the return guy basically gave. Himself up. The rule is if you give yourself up, you don't hit him. He gave himself up, but he faked what's wrong with a fake. What? Because it's January, but you're saying now Arkansas should go rough up there. They didn't what? What they want, fifteen yard, personal fouls. No, but I did. This was a, this was outside the spirit competition while hidden ball trick. That's what it is. It's a hidden ball trick. Like when the first baseman that they think he's throwing it over the pitcher already and he still has the ball and he tapped runner. What happens in baseball? If they find out that your runner on second base is stealing signs. What's the end result of that? Somebody gets drilled, right. Well, if first of all, sign stealing is an art in majorly craft. But if it goes on all the time, if you're behind me and you're stealing signs and I'm the catcher and I realize that your your SEO Paul, you, okay, you can try to do that right. Somebody's gonna love inside. Thank you that I think the end result of this is that now more more kids are going to get drilled because you can't. You can't risk it. Now, wait a minute, though. If you see a fair catch, you don't drill him if you don't see fair catch you if I'm not sure. Yesterday I would benefit this is your job as a running down the field, whatever playing, blah, blah. You don't think these guys are already watching for a fair k of course, Sarah voiding guys with a fair catch. If you don't see a fair catch hit, the guy I was released, they say, USC botch four different punt on Saturday night. I think that they're going to get there. I think they are going to show up for practice today and everything is going to be, it's going to be aggressive. Well, that's absolutely what John Baxter should do. You should get these guys punt incorrectly, but but no, I think this is something now special teams has got to prepare for good for North Texas. They figured out a wrinkle. Here's little North Texas plan, Arkansas from the SEC was the other way round on Saturday. They kill them. Yeah, but I'm saying. This. This is a great wrinkle that first of all teams are going to have to prepare for and there's going to be a strategy involved here. I think that's a brilliant play. Yeah, I didn't like it just because I think it's gonna make football less safe, and I think the object is to make football save. It wasn't that bad of a play because of the Arkansas players started walking away, they started walking into the sideline like he was over the play was over. So then when the North Texas player took a step to the side and then started running, they didn't have to walk away from him. Yeah, they could've just stood there waiting. The whistle didn't blow you play to the whistle blows and they walked away way before that. Yeah, the whistle never blue, right? Which they did show you don't walk away and by the way, the whistle never blue. That's the other cue that you've got. First of all you don't see the fair, catch wreck Inle. There's not a whistle. You're telling me they can't see and they can't hear. Yes, they had you. Their senses compromised, like those those three little monkeys face and in. And yeah, no, not at all. I think that's a great call. By the way, the Josh Gordon able hear no evil now now definitely official. They expect him to be in uniform this week when the patriots play at Detroit. So in the same game, Josh Gordon will be playing his first game for the patriots. Bella check is coming off a loss, which is extremely rare. The lions are, oh, in to Matt, Patricia is Bill Bella checks old. Assists a game that meant nothing a day ago. All of a sudden is something that they're going to pay attention to now. Okay. So you me to get this into four fasttrack. You asked me a question the other day that you said you'd really like to know the ratings when I told you? Yeah, yeah. That the the Rams and the raiders when they're on. Same time. The raiders always do better. Good. Yeah. So this morning I tracked down the ratings. Okay. Are they from lunchtime with Fred? No. Okay. But the they are accurate. The raiders game did an eight point four in Los Angeles right now. The raiders game was on at one o'clock on channel two, same time rand game was on at one o'clock on channel eleven. So this is the Rams and the raiders going head to head raiders came did in eight point four. The Rams game did a five point five, but but what what's a little misleading about that is that the raider game was close throughout and the ram game was a blowout. So let's go back and look at the individual quarters. Okay. Wow. You really went into this because I because I sent a tweet over the weekend, that'll reedy in a minute. From one thirty two to fifteen when these games were both still game and they were on the Rams raiders Broncos started a little bit later Rams started what right at one o'clock. So from one thirty two to fifteen, you had a choice sitting in your chair at home unless the two between the two and the games were close. Raiders did a seven point two. Yup. And the Rams did a six point one. So a little closer. Okay. But the raiders it's still a raiders town. Let's let's face it. The raiders went down to the wire in their game. That's why I went back in and took the overall number out of it at. And so then I went in because I knew your say that. All quarter hours, right. Okay. All of them where the games were head to head right there were more people watching the raider game than the ran yet, but fro there'd be first quarter second quarter third quarter or foot Gortat seven and six for all intents and purposes that's a split. No, no. Raiders did a seven in the first in that first floor and the Rams two to six, something to seven point two to six point one. That's a lot of people. It's millions of people, but while it's not millions of people, we only have nine million people in Los and fourteen fourteen million people in Los Angeles viewing area. But here's here's what here's what I sent out over the week. But I mean, that's to me. That's about right. Well, well, here's to answer your question though at no point during either game where they're more people watching the Rams and the raiders, but but what will be interesting this weekend will be Rams chargers the to LA teams going at it come on and I think the raiders. May play off Sunday. I gotta look it up, but yeah, so I I was under the impression that there was like a total swamping of the Rams. The overall the overall was just wanting eight point four to five point, but it was a complete blow up the game was. I mean, the the Rams were up in blowing up the the cardinals all really fast. But I, I mean the seven point two to the six point one. I'm actually kind of encouraged by that. All right. So I got a tweet yesterday that said from a guy named big d, he said, I've been raiders fan all my life. However, the recent organizational moves firing, Jack del Rio trading Khalil Mack and starting off another losing season. I've decided to support the hometown Rams raider nation has been horrible. So I tweeted out, I'm getting more and more tweets like this every week, and this on a day where the raiders played decently the MAC trade was a tipping point Rams doing everything right at the exact time. The raiders seem. Lost will be interesting to see how many LA fans the Rams can convert. And I knew the reaction of this tweet would be all the hardcore raider fans would say, well, if if you're willing to leave us, we never wanted January screw you with a lot of four letter words. But I was shocked by how many people agreed with the original tweeter real like they're just they're done with it. So, well, here's, here's the thing. Are you from Los Angeles? I mean, they left and now they're going somewhere else. I understand. It's a thing and it's there's pageantry and putting silver and black paint on your face and putting a skull on your shoulder and all that stuff that all exists. But do you want to invest in the city of Los Angeles? I mean, if you look at what is being built over in Inglewood, I, you know it is the most definitive stadium. I mean, it will be the best stadium in the league period. Newest best technologically sound mean, I mean, the scoreboard crazy and they're building a whole city around it with with shopping in theaters and residential. I mean, it is going to be the heart of Los Angeles. I am town in Inglewood will be the heart of LA. I think the moral of the story is it still a raiders town, but the Rams are gaining rapidly. And I think that if it continues to go in these two directions Rams appear to be even to if you're not a ramps fan, the Rams are one of the best three teams in the NFL if you're going to rank them one through thirty two, there is no rational person who would not put the Rams in the top three. And I'm pretty sure the raiders would be in the bottom five. And I think that if that's the case, the Rams having unique opportunity to recapture the city now keep checking those numbers. Yeah, and I'm gonna see at the end of the year if it's still that way, if it's still raiders all every quarter hour because that's how you get graded in TV writings raiders every quarter hour bigger than the Rams I'm gonna venture to get some by the end of the year, the Rams are going to pass them up Gwen when they have a head to head game. Let's see. Not yet, but I think the Rams are going to do it. Do they had game this week? Did you say? I don't know. I gotta look at when I think the raiders might play Thursday. Is that possible. Possible will look at. All right. Fasttrack is coming back next.

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"Today we get. Is back today and last night the that Chris Taylor delivered. Yeah, and here it, yes, sure. Joe Davis with the call. Cedar. Yeah, let's. Way. Yeah, yeah. Good stuff. It is officially I placed by a game and a half. My panic level has been has never gone above a two. I've always believed that in the end talent wins out that the run differential means that everything will wind up evening out over a long period over a long stretch, and that's why they are where they are in-command my panic levels now at a four. How can you panic? They're only game and a half up, but they now now have the lead and I don't think. If they win tonight the dodgers win tonight, I don't think that means the Rockies are dead, but that would put him on life support. I think it means their debt here they've lost Trevor story in MVP candidates coming back this weekend. Well. According to black, he's coming back this weekend. Yeah, they've been. They've been very dodgy about this. This injury. I was listening to BUSTER today, and but here's the thing. What if you're a dodger fan, what you want is that Kershaw and Buehler don't have to pitch on the last German Buehler's pitching tonight. I actually believe now that. If the dodgers get in. I'd make the favorites, go back to the World Series, the National League absolute team to be who else? The one team, one team that would like because they have a good bullpen. The one team that would kind of scare me a little would be Milwaukee, but they would be first of all, they got to be in the one game playoff game. They have to win it and then they're pitching would be screwed up for having to be in right, and we don't get him. They would get the cubs in the first round of the best record. The best record our opponent is most likely going to be the Braves were separated by one win. So get ready for Ronald Akhunzada, junior, Nick, marquess an Ozzy Albee's. You always say the the baseball playoffs are really attorney crapshoot. It's like the most similar to the NCAA tournament. The hot team wins, yeah, but the dodgers have won won six out of seven and have no glaring weakness. If you were going to like nit, pick a weakness, the bullpen can be spotty. Well, Lassen doesn't look like Janssen does incredibly encouraged in the big thing that came out of that in. It's fantastic that that the dodgers won and it's great that it was Chris Taylor walk off, but I look at Kent state last night striking out the side, and I start to see the outlines of what could be a very good postseason bullpen. That was big last night and he my ADA was like that last year in the postseason. Now, the guy, the guy who doesn't look Jansen, let the leadoff hitter on it was the ninth of the tent that's very Jan. I. Don't know. Again, maybe he's trying to preserve him, but after my struck out the side in the eighth one pitch tonight that tie game because you want kenley Jansen too high. He got it done. We did look up. He is much. He is not nearly the pitcher that he is in a safe situation, high leverage safe situation as he is in a tie game. But I've got no issue given the fact that kenley has been a little sketchy giving him reps right now and think about it. Now. Now he went into a game. Last night gets a gets a boost of confidence and a good job to get out of it. Once that guy got on this second with one out and I got out of it got out of it. And Ken lease never been a guy who gives you a whole bunch of clean inex-, but all of a sudden you look at you think about the bullpen you think about twenty-seven outs. I'm already in the postseason. I think the dodgers feel like postseason do. I mean, this is. Doer die. Right? So I think though if you figure kenley Jansen for the ninth you figure Cantu mate for either the seventh or the eighth. You've got synchrony to get a tough lefty. You've got scholar, Scott, Alexander whose ground ball, dominant Dylan, Floro look, good Dylan. Floro looked really good last night, really solid those guys great. Come in after my ADA Floro in and Alexandra. I can't remember. It went. It went to the first reliever. Kenta might. Kenley Kershaw went seven than it went Kenta. Then it went kenley than Alexander came in for one pitcher, Peter Cohen, batter and then flora finish it off. Right? And I mean, you know, we've got to start thinking about the twenty-seven outs. It's all about the twenty-seven outs. We don't think about that during the regular season, but he gets six Kershaw, you get six from viewer or maybe even more from those guys and all the sudden you get the outlines. I think the key to the entire postseason is Kent. He is. I think in my mind, he's the single most important player. They'll go as Kenta made a ghost. I would put chanson ahead of my, but I see your point, I think, right. I feel good about John Jansen I guess better than better than you do. But you know, you gotta figure out a way to get to Jansen and somebody just pointed out to me and I forgot this Kenta was lifted for a pinch hitter in the that's why wasn't available to pitch enough. They would have left him in the ninth or not, but. Unlikely. I mean, I think you want. I think you wanna use Cantu the way us kenley manning get really. Yeah. But in I that's the way bring him in a tie game. I wonder you're talking about kenley. Yeah, everytime I wonder sometimes you have a choice, but I, I love their team in their chances again in the postseason thinking about this, Greg says, after the game, Dave Roberts says they only want to throw one inning. Okay. The. Justin Turner is I I want to line this up in the proper order. Justin Turner is the hottest hitter in all of baseball. Right now he is absolutely destroying the ball and Manny Machado hits behind Turner. Yup. So what I think will start to happen is people will pitch around Turner to get to Machado, and that's gonna get Machado going. You know, he hasn't been as great since he came over from the Orioles. I I was looking at his stats, but he's been fine. You know what's he hit ten home runs since he's got to sixty over twenty three. And now he's got thirty three. I mean he's hitting for power. It's just, I guess he's not the guy that would necessarily carry a team at least down the stretch Janney. Turner could. Yeah. And so you've gotta pick your poison us. They're gonna have to pitch Turner. Are you have to pitch to Machado? And I have a feeling Machado is going to get it going. The I remember the other day when I was watching a game of the weekend and Turner got hit in the wrist, the pitch, and I went that. That's Hanley Ramirez getting being five years ago, right? That would ruin us that would back same wrist. It was actually last year more on his on his forearm. I think. And he said afterwards, he was scared that it was some sort of re injury of the exact same situation that kept him out at the beginning of the year. I'm looking at Machado for the last week. He does have two homers and six Rb is in the last week. Justin Turner is batting four eighty in the last week. Yeah, he's ridiculous. Twenty five said with twenty five yen against the Rockies. He's just been. He's been fantastic. But the the big question now is, can we continue to stay hot Bellinger showing signs of life Peterson has been has been great at the top of the lineup against a right hander. The thing is like you want guys the everyday guys, Machado. JT for the most part Puig for the most part Quique I'm not an everyday guy the I don't when they play like Taylor or when they play Kika. I, I don't think it's bad. I know I think that all these crazy lineups he's trying seem to be Monday. I like when munchies up you think about the the heroes at the plate during the postseason last year. It was Kika during the NFC home run game, and it was jock during the World Series. So you don't know who exactly is going to step up and cherry this team just have a feeling that Kershaw bueller is going to be a really effective one two in the postseason. I just like their chances if that's how they can start a series Kershaw game. One game two. Even last night. I know Kirsch. I didn't get the win, but he pitched great. He the first run they scored Colorado scored came before they even had a hit. Yeah. And you know, I think what Greg would they have four hits on the whole night, the Rockies summer right around there wasn't a lot, and and so I think that. I agree with you. I think the dodgers are actually set up really, really well. It's interesting. I feel the same way about the dodgers as I do about the Rams. I think the Rams are set up really, really. Well. The only problem we have in this town right now is college football, college, football teams stink. Everybody else is a really good spot. We do feel great about the Lakers Mondays media day for the Lakers. We're gonna. We're gonna start ramping that. It's exciting, but I liked the dodgers in the direction they're moving. If you're old line either getting better getting worse, I think the dodgers are getting better. I think the Rams are getting better. Like DeMarco said it quarter-by-quarter. Yeah, you watch that team and they're getting better, and and so they're in really good shape. And now now this new broke right for we came in the air. The Jimmy Butler has demanded to be traded. Yeah, any may may become into l. a. we'll get into that next Mason in Ireland ESPN LA. So lonely fill you in on something Ireland. I have an earworm. It is this particular song, you know, a song that gets stuck ways can't. This is the revival is the part that gets stuck in my head. All my friends. Take good care of me. And once I now answers yesterday, Jay crawl played it every single back from commercials because it's to view insane all night last night, all my friends. Take good care of me. All right, so big news, the big breaking news in the morning with Jimmy Butler according to shops Janica asked for a trade or actually demanded a trade for the Minnesota Timberwolves al-chams reported was that there were three teams, then, whoa, JR came out and said, the three teams don't include the Lakers. That's the clippers, the Brooklyn nets and the New York Knicks. I'm surprised that the Lakers are not on that list. My sense of it is, and again, let me preface by saying, I don't know anything. I've not been privy to any conversations that Robin magic of had about this, but my sense of it is, is that the Lakers like the group they have, right? It would be very difficult for them to make a trade without including one of the recently side free agent, yes. And by rule, those guys cannot be traded until December fifteenth. Jimmy Butler is going to be traded before Monday. You'd think I said this on Friday said, I think he's going to be. I read right from year ago if he's not, it's a very bad look for Minnesota his. It'll be Jimmy Butler at media day on Monday in Minnesota. Meanwhile, Andrew, Wiggins, brother, Nick tweeted out sub Talladega. Shantz Luria. Yeah. The word late to get him out the door. And apparently Karl Anthony towns came out yesterday and said, he will not sign extension refused to sign it until he knows what's happening with. I falsely interpreted that is, oh, he wants to make sure that he has help and the as Jimmy Butler. And then two or three people tweeted me and said, no, it's the opposite, right? He hates Butler and he wants him out. So clearly Wiggins wants them out. Apparently Jimmy was like part on the young guys and as you and I have talked about young people, millennials don't want to be told what to do. Did you say young people? Yeah, Ono start sending young people. I didn't say youngsters youngsters is bad. No, that young people. No, Rick Monday says youngster youngster jokester, but no, but but that age, those young guys that are like twenty to twenty five guys is better than young people today don't want to be told what to do and Butler was telling them what to do magic. They play for Tibbs will told what to this counting on Butler to be kind of his sergeant at arms. You know, to be the guy that the enforcer, right? And now Butler says these guys don't wanna listen, I'm out. So there's long been this rumor that somehow Jimmy Butler and Kyrie Irving when a team up with the Knicks. Right. That's been out there floating around for a while. Right. So if Butler is traded to the Knicks or frankly to Brooklyn, that may be the destination for kyri. I'm not convinced that Kyrie's leave in Boston. I'm not either. I mean, it depends how far they go this year if they win a championship. I've gone finals. I do too. I, I wanna see what it all looks like when the pieces come together because kyri and and Gordon Hayward were not. Part of that run last year and you never know yet new pieces what it's going to actually look like. But I would expect Boston to be in the finals and if they do go to the finals, then I think it's less likely that kyri were to leave. Here's the thing, but let me get back for you. Move on. Let me get back to your original point of you were surprised. The Lakers was very surprised. I think the reason the Lakers on the list is it would be very hard to do that deal for Jimmy Butler. You have to be seventy five percent of his salary because remember Lou all dang has gone, right? The Lakers salaries are LeBron making a ton of money and everybody else on rookie deals or one year deal. So one year deal guys, the javale mcgee's the Rhodesian Rondos they can't be land Stevenson's these guys, Michael Beasley. None of these guys can be included in a deal until December fifteenth. So you'd have to get to seventeen million or within seventy five Mason. I don't even know if it's possible. I don't know if you gave them everybody. In the young co lonzo's at seven. Five k. so that's a step there. Get you a little more than half a little less than halfway Ingram's. Five point. Seven. Five, you're not trading England. Correct. And now you're down to guys like my Wagner one. Seven cow coups one, six, Josh Hartland? Six. So you'd have to include multiple players? I just don't think it's a fit. No, I don't either. So I think might senses again, without having Rob's way more creative than I am and he may have some sleep like what he could do theoretically is. Package a bunch. I mean this on the NBA works package a bunch of assets to trade for a guy at an expiring contract and flip then flip that guy for Butler, and I don't know that they're necessarily looking for an expiring contract, Minnesota writing for assets. Right? So I think so the clippers nets and Knicks are in the clippers are fascinating to me. They are now. I can't remember. I think we're underestimating the clipper. Have you? And I talked since they hired Lee Jenkins. No, no, that was yesterday yesterday. I heard that. Okay. So Lee Jenkins is, and by the way, you know that Lee Jenkins is a Mason and Ireland fanny. We are used to listen to us when he was in high school in the Hoya and and so then he moved his way up the ladder. And he was until yesterday, the lead NBA writer for Sports Illustrated. The clippers made up a position to get him in house. Yep. After I heard that announcement, it is the very first time. Time. Even get go back to Don sterling bomber coming in with all his money. Doc, everything is the very first time that I've even thought to myself. They know what they're doing, but wait a minute. What about Jerry West? But Jerry doesn't is not the hands on guy, Michael wingers the GM in or I thought what Jerry was Jerry doesn't really have any. I think Jerry is is advising on all moves, but but the thing about Jerry is the reason Jerry left Golden State was he didn't feel like he was necessarily being listened to. Right. I didn't know if what bomber did was pay Jerry to give him credibility right to give the clippers credibility. But now now I look at the big picture. Okay. So doc, Lawrence, Frank, Michael, winger, Jerry West. They highly Jenkins who's just a super smart guy, right? Dude. Yeah, I have no idea. What? What what does he do? I wanna get Liam. What's he doing? He'll he'll come on. He's like writing articles internally that I'm going to be circulated no longer. He's basically going to go in there and help them shape their culture, and they the job title they've admitted is made up. They, they. Created a position for him to get them in the building because they'd like guys with good ideas. Right? So if you look at that roster, if you look at the clippers roster. Yeah, they actually could pull off a Jimmy Butler easily. They've got a biased. Harris is really good. He's he's a player that a lot of people would welcome. They've got Avery Bradley who I think would be a Tibbs guys who would be a federally score, you know, from them for them easily and they could add, you know, some some draft picks. I think the clippers could pull this. Okay. So here's the thing about the clippers. I, you know, I hate the clippers unless they hire me to a made up position, but I hate the clippers. Sounds like you wouldn't be the first. Yeah, and the thing about them, I think we're underestimating them in what sense? Well, I mentioned this to you on Monday, but Momoh was here on Friday, and I asked. Her specifically, where do the Lakers rank in terms of preferred destinations for collide Leonard? And she said it's clippers won. And that was sourced clippers one Toronto to Lakers three solve a sudden you'd be looking at a team next year. Yep, that could have Coalisland and Jimmy Butler. And there you go, then you're off to the racist. But the how about all these rumors that Durant can opt out of his deal. The league is so interesting, but okay. So let's think about, let's think about this from a Lakers perspective. You can't do some of this. I'll do what I can. So let's say by his choice of destination doesn't isn't the Lakers Jimmy Butler winds up off the board kyri winds up to throw Kyriakos. We have LeBron we have. Oh, that's right. Yes. So so he's off the board altogether clay. I, in my mind, at least I don't think there's any question that they signed him to a, especially if Durant leaves mega extension. If you're an leaves, there's no reason to max Klay Andrey really only leaves Durant as the lone superstar that might be available to. He's the best one, but I nobody necessarily thought that magic and rob could pull off this LeBron thing. I would say nobody believes the Durant stuff yet because it's a year away. But if they do it. If they did it automatically, you not only bring him in you rob Golden State of their best player. Right. Exactly. So all of a sudden it becomes a fair fight, you know? So I think that the league in I not only and I think Jimmy Beller is a great player. He's a great player. Great. Modern NBA player. He's as you way player defense shooter, but I'm not altogether. Worry, disappointed, whatever word you wanna use Jimmy, and I hope he ends up on a good team and he's happy, but I'm not altogether disappointed that the Lakers aren't in in that and they may be, I don't know, but if they don't get them, I think that that I wanna see, I'm very anxious to see how this group of young guys plays with LeBron. Right? And the only way the Lakers could get him could get Jimmy Butler to break break up the young court. So I'd be I'm totally fine if they don't do anything while there. I mean according to, whoa, JR. They're not going to blow. They're not. He won't agree to sign and he's watching with anybody other than those three. Why trade for him, if you if he's not going to sign an extension with right then it becomes Dwight out. Right, exactly. All right. Well, I was I was very excited when the news broke that Jimmy Butler would demanded a trade and I got all yanked up. And then the next thing you know, the Lakers weren't one of the destination, so I got bumped. Nah, I'm pro excitement. Well, I'm pro drama if they were able to land Butler, it would make them more of a championship contender this year. That's for sure, but I would put them in the Western Conference finals. Ahead of the rockets? Yes. I think they surpassed the rockets with a player like Jimmy Butler. Yes, right now in my mind there. Well, actually, let's talk about the next also yesterday we got into a heated conversation about clay Helton that I want to circle back. Okay. Yeah, that's that's coming up for you to I-. Jonah. Last question I often ask you, who is this. This is let me see. I am. We're John screws up the music. This is survivor. It is not survivor hood. That's a great old school ban to throw out that is imagined. It's all when I asked you, it's always imagined. No, it's not. Sometimes it's Konya. Sometimes it's gone. Yeah, some sometimes it's Kendrick, Lamar. You're right. All right. So. What did you get into about clay Helton yesterday, I thought we, we took care of all that on Monday. Still one and two, right? And one in three team coming in this weekend. So. We had a debate about whether or not this would be a successful season. At this point. If clay Helton ran the table one, the south, in one, the Pac twelve championship game. And the overwhelming reaction was? No, that's that. That's just asinine. That all that's completely idiotic. So what you're telling me is he's about to go on an eight game winning streak then at the Pac twelve title game, and then add whatever big bowl game Rose Bowl and wins that. Yeah. Yeah, not. I mean, so then it would turn into a game winning streak, right? And they would finish the season eleven to. I don't. I don't know how you could call now. I don't think that's going to happen. It did two years ago. I don't think it's going to happen this year. I just think and by the way clay did exactly member, you ask me Monday what Drake's Greg, Greg says, you've distorted the argument. Of course. I have. What do you mean this talk? Right, Greg. Greg in European. In your opinion, what's the argument argument was that you were okay with a team at USC? Not being in the college football playoff? No, not this year? Yeah. You said every four or five years being in the conversation for the playoff was okay. That's not okay. Four or five conversation with the conversation was whether or not you were okay with them being conversation, actually even defend the position you're trying to paint on him. If only four teams make the playoff. All right, Alabama is going to be in it every year as long as they have Sabin. And as long as cheating, which in right now, both of those things are probably going. Yeah. Clemson likely to be there every year early during their window. Seven, Florida state? Yeah, I think but, but everybody else, if you show up in there every four years and compete for a championship, I live with that. Well, as UCLA fan, you could not as USC fan, the teams that are always did. So never going to Oklahoma's always there. No, wait a minute. So if USC was in the championship every Olympic year they were in the playoff. That's. That's okay. But there, yes, being in the. No, his point was being in the conversation every four or five. Getting into the playoff, right. You're said specifically, said conversation. I think the conversation is you're one of the four? Yeah. Now the conversation is still lasts outside of the top five, six always have a shot at actually think that's going to change. I think they're going to probably go to eighteen playoff hopes are in the next ten years. Ten years? Yeah, Klay we'll be long gone. Well at time there's an eighteen play. Yeah, you don't know that. Oh, come on. He's not here for a ten year run. I mean, he's he's barely here for a one year run at this point. Trojan fans have gone completely south on him. And I said, look, I have been a staunch Klay defender. I was really happy with the Rose Bowl two years ago, really happy with Pac twelve championship last year. He went eleven three and eight and one in the pack. Twelve right? Last year, like less than a county. I consider that to be a successful season and you, you're not going. To go to the playoff every year, unless you're Alabama, it's going only to pack only two Pac twelve teams have even made the playoff. So this should be run, right? Lawrence, Oregon wants the one right through. They're not Oklahoma's in the conversation of your own state. Clemson Ohio is again, you got a that guy will clearly anything, whatever it is. They're still the fact that one of his assistants was involved in a demand. I'm not saying it's right in any sense there in the conversation every year urban Meyer. If he has a PR person, doll person should find another line of work, crisis management, apple. Urban Meyer every time he speaks just the whole John in deeper you, are you okay with UCLA in basketball? Not being in the conversation for a final four ever anymore? No, since the Hal. But if they were in the final four every four years, I'd be okay with that, but they should be getting close to the final four every year, right? They should be. You should be in the top twenty five top twenty every year without fail. I think I think it's different football, different football, basketball, here's here's UCLA basketball nutshell. I think you have to be in the top twenty every year. Yeah. And you have to make the tournament every year, no exceptions, if you if you are either out of the top drawing or out of the tournament goodbye. And in the case of and this should be the same US year one, he finished number three in the poll USA AP doesn't cancel at the college football poll what? Wait a minute still. It's still top ten in last year, finished ten in the people. I mean, again. Again, I strongly believe that that clay Helton is not going to run the table this year. I don't believe you. I don't believe this team is good enough to run the tape. I have to. I think they have to change something they need. I mean, I said it, you know, Sunday. And as far as I know, you know, we're sitting here on Wednesday afternoon. I don't think clay's announced any changes. I think the March John. What did you he immediately had a hard ask practice on Monday in that's exactly Okkas Edrich where called him out on Saturday and said, you know what I think are practices have been lazy and clay Helton came out on Sunday night on the conference. 'cause on that conference call, he said, we're gonna practice differently tomorrow, and now where it is they busted ass on Monday. So if you change your approach, hang on a second. And the other thing is I think he assu in this clip. I think he assumed play calling duties, listen to this and tell me if you think this is true. He was asked after Monday's practice about the way it went. Usually I've been on both sides of the ball, so sometimes I'm over with the defense today. I want to go be off its coach. Got my mad onto. So I wanted to be an offense coach day, and sometimes you get to be the head bulk, oh, to decide where you stay to today. I wanted to coach off, appreciate. No, I don't. I don't think he did. Offense, coach. Yeah. I mean, I think if you're gonna call the plays, that's something that the media would ask that you would admit if he's again, he went to practice it. I'm going to be an offensive coach today that was there one hard practice before the Washington state game because it's a short week right now in my mind, Klay albums calling the place. I hope so. And I also liked ask what John Baxter do differently and use the same punter. Well, you know. Clay Helton has been famous for light practices that has been his thing. So Cassandra require called him out. They had a really tough practice really hard practice on Monday. That's the change that he made harder practices lead to better execution. They've been too lackadaisical some that you you were, you were fighting back with me on last week, four Texas game. I'm a fighter. You said you thought clay Helton with survive seven and five heat survive a winning season survived. That's what I was gonna ask you, do you still feel that way? Six and six? We built degree doesn't survive done seven and five. Maybe. Eight, four survives for sure for one hundred percent so that there's the line and you know what I'm way around eight wins. I'm thinking about their scheduled just off the top of my head. So. Notre Dame still got a play Washington, right? No, no game against Washington game against Oregon. The schedule looks relatively easy. If you look at it. I mean Friday night and I wanna point out Washington state pretty good. They've played. They had a game against New Hampshire. I mean, this is not a team that went out and played anybody. Arizona came from New Hampshire by the way. You used to be coach there long ago? No, started his lustrous career there. No. Chip Kelly. Chip Kelly wasn't either like ten years ago. They're getting better getting worse. I know it's going out chip Kelly, so Washington state again, it has played nobody. Arizona has been bad. They go there the following week, Colorado has been decent, but not spectacular. They're here at the Coliseum. Following that, then they go to Utah. That should be a tough game. They've always had trouble in Utah. They better before in two when they go into Utah, or I think games up. If they're not foreign to on into Utah, if they go into that game three and three, I think that's an incredibly lose -able game. I don't expect them to win. So if they dipped to three and four, you don't think they make an incident JiJi own. I know I don't understand why I don't see anybody in that staff who all of a sudden electrify. I mean, clients Pendergast John Baxter, it'd be Clancy he would be given the temp job, but I don't know the only reason you would do it if you started to lose recruits, rial if there's no, I always think you, I think you're the same as man. This change in coaches in the middle of the season is often a waste of time. Let's it said ordre. Zingo handily turn to season around. Right, but but that was that was either lane or Sark being? No. I'm saying he who did he replace? He replaced lane the and then went on a run, right? But they don't have an ad order on the staff. They don't have the heart and soul guy the way they happen to have at that point. So I think it's pointless to make an NC's and change, but I will no longer blindly support Klay health needs a wonderful guys. A very nice man. I really, really like them, but it got to a win. I agree with you now and we've both been his biggest supporter, but in your record is what it says you are and his records. Yep. All right. Coming up next boy, a lot of of drama around Antonio Brown in the steam. Glad you're bringing this up because it's if you think about it, it's not just Antonio. No, it's just like team drama, right? Right. In the Steelers men, they're, they're on the their seasons on a game. Yeah, that's coming up next for you Mason in Ireland. ESPN LA. Hey, really big deal today for fasttrack o'clock. A human being named Christian Flores who actually got Mason and Ireland tattooed on his person and anybody that does that anywhere gets to come in and do fasttrack with us. You have Mason in Ireland number one, tattooed on your body. Anywhere you get to come host. Fasttrack today will be the first guy ever to do it Christian Flora's and his his fairly big it is on the back of his leg. It's the first set to he's ever gotten. Yup. Greg, we should tweet out that video of Christian getting the Mason and Ireland tattoo God bless and he so he's coming in and he's got his own questions. He'll be, he'll be here for fasttrack. I consider him to be our best listener and the most committed Mason in Ireland listener in the world. There you go. Kristin Flores. Love that guy. I, what did you tease? I'm trying to remember. I teased Antonio Brown in the Steelers drama. So here's the thing. Yeah. The Steelers have only had three coaches ever Chuck knoll, Bill cower and Mike Tomlin. In NFL terms, they've been the model of stability? Yes, right? Yes. But now. The three best players on the team have all caused them kind of dramatic incident. So yeah, levian bells, the obvious one. He's been to listen shown up and by the way now I don't think he's shown up until week ten. I think he wants to be a free agent and has healthy and as as fresh as possible. So week, ten every year Big Ben threatens to retire. Right? Be it for me. And now the guy who you consider to be the most stable and Tonio Brown is tweeting that he wants to be traded is not showing up for practice. Is it fair to put any of this plame on Tomlin or is this just the like we were talking about earlier with those guys in Minnesota? In the NBA is the modern athlete. Now, is this going to eventually pop up on everything that these guys are just going to do what they want, and they don't necessarily want to be told what to do. I think the NFL is different. Right? They are told what to do. You're right. You are going to be in the case of levian bell. You're drafted by the Steelers, you're going to be there for your fifth year and then you're going to get year six and seven. So you're locked up for seven years. You can bridal all you want, right, but you're locked up for seven years. That's the way the collective bargaining agreement is. Can't might, but can't my counter to this be the Rams have. More quote, unquote, dramatic personalities during the Steelers do and you don't hear anything out of the Rams. Well, the way to pay Todd Gurley. Yeah, they, they found a way to pay Aaron Donald every we heard nothing but bad stuff about Nidal consumers we are. We are that Martin Luther King keep believes crazy, Marcus Peters, put himself before the team. What have we heard out of any of those guys? Nothing they win. Right. And so the Steinbeck that also that speaks volumes about Wade Phillips and also a young head coach who understand players. And if you notice that anytime Mike Tomlin has asked about these guys heat, he says something along the lines of. I'm not going to get into that. It's a personal matter, blah, blah, blah. Sean McVay would immediately take the bullet Sean McVay would take you said, hey, why is? Why is your star running back holding out? Why is your star wide receiver. Not shown to practice in tweeting people. Why is your quarterback threatening to retire? You know what? China McVay would say. You know what? Guys that's on me. I make it a point of communicating with all these guys directly and let them know how important they are, and I don't. I haven't done a good enough job. They're doing that and fix it. Here's Tom doesn't do that. I just wonder if it's fair to blame Tomlin I do. He's a coach and a good motivator, but I want you know, at some point I was watching Jason Whitlock yesterday on the show with Marcellus and he had a really good analogy. He said, who is Marcellus? Who is this Marcellus? So they said Woodlock said to Marcellus, you know what? Who the Steelers are there that the house that that people keep calling the cops on that the your play music, too loud. There's an incident at a party. There's there's over and it's not. It's not the end of the world. The house is on fire. Nobody's being taken to jail, but the cops keep showing up at your house. So is that is can you blame any. That on, Tom, here's what Mike Freeman wrote. He talked to an NFC south assistant who said it's a circus there. And Mike has no control over it. He's one of the best coaches of my generation, but his players have too much control. Freeman writes, has Tomlin lost every Steelers player. No, of course not. I've spoken to plenty of Steelers, who believe is the best coach that they've played for never will. And as an assistant coach from Tomlin's division, he says, quote, it's not Mike's fault than Tonio Browns. Sometimes acts like an idiot, but would Brown sometimes act like an idiot under another coach. That's the question. Yeah. In other words, has Mike Tomlin just lost control of the team? Well, and there's something about when the bell came out and and his his teammates basically decided to throw him under the bus and say, I don't know why he's not here. We're all being paid. Where is he right? That was unprecedented in my experience as sportscaster. I've never seen. The unwritten rule in sports in Michael was in for you that day. You weren't here and I sit Michael. Have you ever been around sports your whole life? You're pro athlete, your son's pro athlete. Have you ever in any sport heard of guys on a team, killing somebody over a contract. And Michael said, no, because they all should know that that could be them one day. You never stay. You stay out of another man's business because you don't know what what's happening and you may be in that spot one day. Yup. There's only certain of there's only certain recourse available to players to try and get their money and the minute they did that the minute, those players did that I go. You know those guys sign of sound like they're all in it for themselves. You know they're doing whatever they want now, is that it or is levian bell doing whatever he wants, he's saying, but I look as saying that he tries to preach to these young Lakers because there's so many of them that are not even twenty five yet he says, look, all coach you up and I'll put you in positions to succeed, and we're gonna give you every resource you need, whether it be nutrition training, facilities, we're gonna give you the full power of the Laker brand to be successful. Right? But we won't be until you guys take over the team. You have to realize that it's not my team. It's your team. And when you guys take ownership when the players take ownership, that's when you go to the next level. To me, it seems like the Rams are and the Steelers, aren't I? These Rams are all they never knock each other. They never. You never even hear about, okay, but here's the deal. If the Rams had not signed Todd Gurley. Aaron, John, or I would have no problem with them sitting out. I completely understand that and I completely sympathize with Levy on bell. The fact that the that he's lied to go play, do you approve of his teammates throwing him under the bus. Obviously pissed them off. Right, right. I mean, this is the art. Do you? Do you tell that to the me? You know what the comparable moment is when all the San Antonio Spurs through Leonard under the bus, and how did that end and ended up traded for another team, which is levian. Bell wants levian bell. No longer is focused on playing for the Steelers. He will not re-sign out riding jet skis, right? He's he's gonna sit out the the the minimum amount of time he can to register year of service, and then he's going to be a free and clear free agent next year and he's not going to re-sign with the Steelers. Levian bell will play at max six games for the Steelers, and they will be his six final games for the Pittsburgh Steelers and I don't blame him. Do you blame him? No, especially in football with no guaranteed contracts. He had hit like four hundred touches last year. They're wearing them down. Keep that to narrative learning night, looking out for him. So he s look out for himself. The problem I had there is. When his own teammate said, oh, I don't know why he's not here. I, I know I'm showing up every day. I thought that's not the way you treat someone you like. No, and that's the way you treat somebody who's going to be there very long and he's not. I mean, don't you think I think he plays maximum six games and I, it's sad because he's on my fantasy team and gambled at number seven, but I still don't blame the levian bell for sitting out as long as he can with while still recording a year of service. I think he plays six games max and which is all he has to all. He has to play, records your service. And then because it's a second franchise tag, he becomes a free agent. Hey, I'm going to pivot on you here, but is this a big deal or a little deal. LeBron's been talking for years about remaking Space Jam to? Yes, he's gonna start in it in the Michael Jordan will. Yup. He just hired Ryan Kugler to produce. It's pretty big deal. Right? That's a huge deal. He said he was so impressed with what cougar did with Black Panther and you do didn't Ryan cougar also creed. He did creed any did a great movie with Michael Jordan called fruitvale station, which is fantastic dark, but fantastic. Ryan Kuebler is one of the brightest young directors in Hollywood. He's actually going to produce it and then he's going to pick the director who's already picked. I'm not sure who it is, but but Cougars now in charge of Space Jam to which now makes me really interested to see what they're going to come up with because the first base jam with Michael Jordan was actually pretty good and you've got to do something really different. You cannot just go back to the bugs buying back to just that you've gotta be broader. You've gotta be bigger. You've gotta think larger because otherwise you'll pale in comparison and by the way, think about it. Technology has changed. Animation has changed. I mean, they've got a chance to do something really. Really different Kugler is really, really bright. And by the way, black guy, which is the way you know that that's African American directors in this town have very little opportunity, so good for Ryan Kugler forgetting into this gig. Did they name the director? Yeah. But I mean, it's in there somewhere, but the the big thing is going to be in charge of it. And I assume if they had any issues with the director that he would just take it over, but now that he's in charge of the whole project, I really wanna see it me too me too. That's an excellent choice. Excellent choice coming up next Abacha's ice. Bad choice that has been made by who I will tell you. 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Episode Ten - Timelines, Rodman's Practice, The Shot, Saying Goodbye

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Episode Ten - Timelines, Rodman's Practice, The Shot, Saying Goodbye

"Don Jacoby the APP show is proudly presented by state farm. When you want the real deal like a good neighbor state farm is there. Jalen and Jacoby move onto episode episode. Ten takes us to Salt Lake City. Utah and that series against the jazz and B's Bulls in that team that duo of Stockton and Malone that Fan fan base that environment and of course the shop. Now you're an NBA player. That's when you saw that shot and you saw Jordan. Hold that gooseneck. What went through your mind Michael Jordan or could have been Byron Russell. Brian Russell that that that's going to Mama. I was playing minutes. I was contributed. I was hoping to try to make a name for myself but I will just young a bug on a windshield. Oh happy that I have my vest given me an opportunity in believing in me Larry. Bird giving me an opportunity to play but that's all time elite greatness. It is just think about. This man is already won five championships. Jacoby and in the six one. He steals the basketball from Carl Malone. They don't call time out goes to live to the floor and makes a great play. Free Throw Line area and makes the game winning shot. I really wish and I know like the wizards years maybe spoken finally of Four J. That should have been it. That should've been it. Well I I think the through. This documentary learned sort of the ethos of MJ. And I feel like he feels that there was much left for him to give and he needs that competition but one. I'll about the experience of the last dances over time. You remember the shot you know but you forget things like Scottie. Pippen's back and you forget things like the layup that present you forget this deal and that's one thing that's been so nice about this documentary as filled in the blanks in my memory of all those moments that I've watched but didn't carry with me this many years later and because of that reason it is so exciting to discuss all of this with the director of the film. Just like we saw the bulls when they went from our friend and colleague. Doug counts to Phil Jackson with Real Guidance. And the right coach. Nba teams go from good to great just like real help from your state. Farm agent can make all the difference in protecting what matters most Jalen who are some of the greatest coaches and NBA history. Off Top of your head. Some of the greatest coaches the NBA. History you start the early days you have to Mitch. A red are back as you fast for that to the eighties you gotta think about Pat Riley Shout to Casey Jones as a member of the Celtics head coaching staff. Gray Popovich of the Senate Tonio Spurs the work. That he's done there. Doc rivers what he's done with the Celtics in the clippers. Their been some really influential coach Phil Jackson when an eleven championships with the Bulls and then going on to the Los Angeles Lakers am i. God Larry Legend. That's right I said it the only player to win. Mvp Executive of the year in coach of the year. 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They have a flexible return policy. So you can shop at ease you can visit. Att Dot Com learn how to shop online from the safety of your home. Twenty four seven. So let's change restrictions. Apply this man only Dylan. I can't believe it. I just cannot believe that we have now seen the final episode of the last dance. You know what I don't think we have. I don't think we have. I know Michael Jordan went on to play on. The Wizards Jordan went on to own the Hornets. We're GONNA get more and if we need to create soul. It's going to be this man who's going to bring it to US director of the last dance. Jason Air joins us once again and now we will discuss call can I? Can I vote the real reebus for like five seconds? I know you did a great pair for the show. I know Jason is a highly trained professional and his name is trending all over the industry. I have to say something that we all have naysayers and I look at social media every now and the Jason and people will be like. Yo Look Jaylen hair. It looks like a logo. He looks like NBA Two K. Is Too dark is to? Chris and I know they just hate him because I nor them fresh. I feel the same way when I see critics out the dock and ninety nine percent of people. Love it some people. I can't follow it. It goes back to ninety two ECHO. Back to ninety three. That's how you can tell the story. Have you her any of this has some of? It's been a blip on your windshield. What are your thoughts when you hear that? I've certainly heard it. Yeah I can see the the criticism And people are entitled to to whatever their opinion is if they couldn't follow it then then You know it's either not for them or too it's failing of ours in the edit room. We we Thought about this long and hard you know we have. I had a huge Cork Board in my office. And that was kind of like the mothership so every day we come into my office and there was this big brick wall with his big cork board in all these Cards on it and the green ones were ninety. Eight and the white ones reflect back. And that's how we could tell you know how the story went. We would switch these cars around sometimes and tell different stories in different places but by and large it was it. Was that eighty four. Ninety eight time mine was the white cards and ninety seven. Ninety eight was the green cards. I I Should think about Posting that so that people can see what we were seeing And for those people who didn't understand it. I don't think that's GonNa Convince Anybody of I've learned my lesson in the last few weeks Not Anything like that. Online people want to never. I will listen Jason. You're being very respectful. You're being very nice. But I'm a special General Ed. It's not that complicated. There is a big on the screen for about ten seconds. That tells you what you're about to see in this. Also some things is horace grant on the team is Toni. Kukoc is Dennis Rodman on the team. What Guard is on the team? Is it the white guy? John Baxter. The White Guy. Steve Kerr in aiders aware. You are in the time line. You know what no trouble whatsoever. Jason. I saw a debut of an NBA player. That reminded me of David. Jacoby in the last dance. He's Judd Bush Ler. That's you David. What are your thoughts? I think I'm gonNA move onto some actual content for our guests. Rusty larue is coming up. I this is again is as we just came off Michael Jordan sort of defining moment with win over the jazz. There's something that's very important me. And that is what he was listening to. Before the final game in the back of the bus with the headphones on very proud he had an early. Tell us about cutting that scene. Michael had to Kenny. Lattimore Hook up before anybody. I still don't know who Kenny Lattimore is. I know Michael Relaxing. Rnd Oh gee I'm supposed to be the music guy so I'm telling myself here but you is using in this. By the way our editors specifically I think it was Devon Kincannon. Who saw that footage heard? Michael? Andy Thompson's voice in Andy Thompson is the godfather of all this. Because this whole thing was his idea to embed cameras so shutouts Andy Thompson. His voice is the one off camera. Saying what are you listening to? Michael's like With the big nine hundred ninety eight headphones and dismantle the non skip kind. Remember those wow. Kate came walk too fast. Can Run it on So Devon figured out by the he went back to Kenny. Lattimore new album in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight then matched up like. Michael was mumbling words. He tried to like lip. Read and see what the words words then. He looked at the lyrics from Kenny songs. And then he put the possible against Michael. Walking down the hall and did the beach permitted with Michael Bobbing Michael's head and came to the conclusion. That Michael was listening to days like this and that was true. So that's the level of detail that that the tone just like. Let's let's choose a Kanye lattimore song because Michael said he's listening to Kenny Lattimore. I saw the rough cut of that and didn't know that that work had got into it and this was. We were in full quarantine. So I'm seeing this like on a link. A non leaked wink. I should say by the way I hear the beginning of that. I on like what is this. What do they chew? Because I didn't get. We have songs that I've put in a system like this is commercial music score and that was neither and then I was like wait a second. This sounds like nineties and B. I think that's Kenny. Lattimore and it was and it. I knew it would be days like this like a kind of work lyrically just it fit the mood of him and Michael looks like he's going into play a preseason game when he shooting around in those low cut black Jays with the with the White Sox crispy And says don't look my feet look at the ball going through the hoop So it just works and that that's the level of detail that that everyone on that team our team. I could not be more proud of them. That's a perfect example of it would've been easy just to throw any song in underneath especially under the conditions were working like get it out as fast as possible now. The amount of like detective work the cat to go into figuring out what was in that those headphones is not like we're texting. Michael and say. Hey what were you listening to figure it out? GotTa means but they. They did it. That would've been such a move. Hey Michael What were you listening to? We would've never got this documentary if you are sending him messages like that. What ABOUT THE ATMOSPHERE IN UTAH? You guys made it really apparent that you wanted to focus on those not facing one another in the last couple of episodes but also just the the really tough atmosphere and environment that was planned against the Utah. Jazz difficult passionate ferocious man like that. That was I didn't realize there's certain places in the NBA that are notorious places to play and only recently have we seen some incidents that happen Utah and and their fans getting a little bit rowdy and being and and and whatnot. I didn't realize back then that it was like that's the point where some of the players weren't bringing their families to these games. You saw a morning bring. The families been like In jail and you know better than than neighboring your family absolutely cannot bring your family. Yeah because they had had incidents With players wise being yelled at and and just being subjected to some behavior that they didn't want to subject themselves to so it was hostile man and especially these were fantastic teams And they came close the year before and they had a better team that next year. I don't know what the betting odds were going into the finals that year but but Utah should have been favored. They swept the season series with them. That was the only team in the entire. Nba The Bulls didn't beat that year S and you saw what happened in episode and the end of episode four. They squandered like a twenty three point lead and lost that game now. They win that game then. They split the season series and they have one more win than is I think. I think they both had sixty to win right then. These game one is in Chicago Lead Back Razi last game of the first avenue the season before the all break in the end of episode fourth. A Win that game. It's a seven game series. Was Chicago Having Home Court and who knows what would have happened. It worked out the right way. I'm sure none of the Bulls would take it back but at the time. I'm sure they. Dama wish they had home court because they had to get on a plane right after they had that hard-fought series against you guys but the Pacers Michael Jordan always talks a lot of trash and it's always conflict but is always sort of like a direct. He's sort of sniper with his trash talk not a shotgun and there was something that he said during this episode that I want to get some more insight from you is the bite where some US talk about how hard it is to push around shack and he says `I shack by shack like I said I show. What does that mean to you from his mouth? He is very reluctant to speak of himself. In superlative terms. You don't have to say I am more imposing than even Shaquille O'Neal which is what he meant by that. I ain't shack is you're dealing with a different beast than Shaquille O'Neal who is maybe the most dominant player of his generation. I'm taking not an ounce away from Hilo Neil because I think that that he's underrated when we talk about best ever conversations and you WanNa talk statistics and all that. I think that that Jack doesn't get involved in these conversations enough so shout out to him. Michael saying I ain't shack three times is you're dealing with something completely different when you're dealing with me. I'm not Shaquille O'Neal so yeah. Maybe he could push them around physically. You're dealing with something mentally and spiritually that his on another plane than Shaquille. O'neal so Jason. I'm looking at twitter right now. And this reminds me of something earlier in this amazing serious. Congratulations I hope. You gotTa Taylor in to some new suits. Because you've got to get a lot of awards about Dennis Rodman earlier taking a vacation during the season today. It's about during the finals. Dennis Rodman Mrs Practice so he can go wrestle against Hulk Hogan in n w all with everywhere more insight to this. Let's be journalists about this with with Hogan with okay we're told kogen correction in. W all like. He missed practice during the finals. Yes what about that event? Surprise you when you talk to people that were involved that they expect that it wasn't anything unexpected that they were so nonchalant that they allowed this to happen and they weren't worried about what was going to happen. I'm sure it was frustrating. You could sense a fills tone of voice. Yeah but I think that was more frustrated that he had to answer the questions. He said it's important to you is an issue for you. Not For us. But the amount of trust that they had gained it goes back to that the Indian drill when he came back from vacation. Knew this guy was gonNA show up. They knew the one it was his turn to run from the back of that line to the front of the line. He was going to last them four times before they got a chance to catch up with him so whatever he was GonNa do he. Was We talk a couple of weeks ago about the kid? Who Goes Crazy until dinnertime? But he's owned by dinner and he washes the but he's a wild man during the day. That was Dennis so I think the most surprising quarter when you tell people when I remind my brothers and my friends like Dennis Rodman left after games three to go wrestle in Detroit W W Hogan this was. This was not in between series. This was during the finals. He went to do this and it's not like he couldn't have twisted an ankle. Not like a raked lying top ropes. And he's hitting us with a chair. Who knows what could happen. Especially with that crowd who knows who could hop over the fence and do something. So the Amana Rope. They gave him speaks volumes about Dennis. Rodman that they weren't concerned they kind of rolled their eyes and thought it was funny but no one thought. Oh my God. This guy's off the reservation when we're GONNA lose the finals. Because he's a key cog in the machine it was like now. Well Dennis Smith practice and you could see. The film was joking around that he bought. He brought fame and reputation upon the team and beat him up before the practice. But that was it just like the kid that you roll your eyes and you know. He's GonNa Misbehave but you also know he's going to be the first one in line when the chips are down and one of the things I love so much about this documentary and Lee reliving all these moments as we remember them as singular moments but they forget the context in one of those moments is shot when games on the line game six championships online and he pushes off Brian Russell now what. This documentary does such a good job of showing us is the lay up in the possession that preceded that then the defensive steel outsmarting Stockton Malone in the defensive possession right before that and then the shot itself like that so much but I also love the fact that to this day Michael Jordan will not admit that with his left hand on the right but she could Russell. He's ushered him along down the lane. What do you think about that particular push off? I think that that his momentum was absolutely going that way. I don't think that he took him and pushed Brian Russell across the lane. I think that he knew said in episode nine. He plays on the balls of his feet and he knows how Brian Plays Defense and he knows that if he jukes and then he's GonNa go that way. I agree with Bob Costas. When he says that it was like a maitre d' showing someone to their table. If you a low angle. Nice video was not filmed. The low angle shot Slo mo shot. His hand is clearly on Brian's body but I don't think there's any pressure being exerted to to push him off regardless. I WanNa go back to what you said because I think that's the most incredible forty two seconds in the history of the NBA. And I think that what doesn't get enough. Credit reminded me of that high off the glass layup that he had against Georgetown. Eighty two which I think also doesn't get enough credit in the waning seconds of the game which we showed in episode one that lay-up when they were down by three to bring it to within one was not a. GimMe and not at all neum where the ball was going and what was going to happen when the ball got there. Everybody knew that ball was going to Michael and he was going to if he got in the right wing. Going to pull up and shoot or he's going to drive to the hoop so two dribbles and he's driving to the hoop and he had to go over like two or three two and a half guys high off the glass if he misses the shot. Where Evan and if we're in game seven. I don't think the Bulls win the title. I think they were out of gas and I think he knew that at that moment to so this. Is it so you WanNa talk about clutch jeans and clutch performance from the time that that ball was inbounded? When they're down by three no other bulls touched the ball for the no audible. Touched the basketball for the rest of the game in on the title so to me. It was the perfect book in that in one thousand nine hundred eighty five. He comes into the League is a rookie. And he's got no other help on that team and he has to win these games by himself and then he had to learn how to play with his teammates and they want title after title. Once you learn how to play with an assistant but still be the star. He gets all the way to the end of his bulls career and was happening. He's by himself again and he has to win the game by himself against so the perfect. It's if you if you wrote this script. He laughed out of every Hollywood office. But but it happened. This hirsch me Jason. Because Ninety as a Pistons Fan we had to walk off and not acknowledge them that just what rivals do late nineties. I was a member of the Pacers in ninety eight. He made a game. Winning shot against Byron Russell would did Air Jordan. Have to say about that. Play in ninety eight against brass the game when it gets Byron Russell to walk off for for the six championship. Well you saw what he said. I mean to to hear him break down. I I've I've that's another one of those questions I've always wanted to ask. He broke it down He. He knew he could see the entire floor and he knew that that he needed to get Brian on the balls of his feet And he was either GonNa Djugum and pull up or he was actually going to go to the bucket and you know only Michael knows exactly what his game plan was there. I think it was pretty much Improvise off the top of his head. When I was more interested in and we asked in the dock is is the perspective of the guys. Were on the floor with him. Because you know we've talked to a lot of players who said that that the there's the temptation when you're playing with a guy like Michael to watch the game happen because you're so amazed at how he plays and how he moves on the floor. This is high pressured like this is do or die. They have seventeen seconds left. And as BOB says seventeen seconds from game seven championship number six. I thought it was so funny. That pippen and said what are you? What are you thinking that moment? Get the hell out of the way of all time. Only fifteen dream fifty also get the hell out of the way and that and that. Rodman said he wasn't gonNA give the ball of he's not giving it impacts in. He's taken this shot so this was the moment. I think there was palpable. No timeout calls. No-one consider calling a time out and everyone knows exactly what's going to happen. Which is why I love that picture. It's why we use that. Picture zoomed in the faces of those jazz fans. They look like the ball has already gone in the bucket when he releases it because for him to get a clean look is tantamount to the ball going in the basket at that point. So it's it's tough Fan Utah Fanfare Utah Fan facing. It's like it's like A. Where's Waldo photo? There's that one little kid with the Bulls Jersey on who's got his hands up as if the shot had already gone in because everybody wants the ball his hand. It's like everybody knew what was going to happen next. It was almost like you lost a game just by him getting off that shot so I love that photo. And that's what something that we wanted to to highlight all along that was in the plants. The thing the thing that is the foundation of this documentary unseen behind the scenes footage gives us a very special insight into that particular shot. Because he's discussing it in the locker room after the shot goes in. And you don't really see him. Gooseneck jumpers the way that he did but he sort of explains it. Jason Sorta telling me about finding that footage and talking to Michael about it and what he meant about that. Yeah well that's this by soft gay. He's he's the same editor I told you guys about a couple of episodes ago and You know we discussed this is another quarantine at it. So I can't be in the room with him and and we discuss what the storyline was from that game in which which stories we want to hit and I gave him a cut of music and Which by the way Jacoby from your you use it. Yes I'd recognize back in our grantland days. I did a short film about a fighter named Kid Chocolate Peter Cohen and his. Yes we're still fight and we use the song by Zach Brilliant composer Call vengeance in that and we went now. I recognize that I recognized that axe after this one so I gave all by that that that song and all the stems individuals strings and drums and horns. And all that and said just have fun with this and we had said that you know as the game progressed. Michael was getting more and more tired so you see him starting to come up. Short on those jumpers and We didn't have time to get the full discussion between him and fill in the dock which fill said in the interview that he was reminding Michael to follow through an jumper. 'cause you coming up short because you're not following through your right. You rarely saw Michael do the gooseneck after a shot but he. He did that to to make sure that he held that. Pose that famous pose. Now it's almost as the as the Air Jordan pose. That's the reason why he was doing that so then you see him in his hotel. That's is that what the grand piano. That's his hotel room. That's a Michael Jordan style hotel room And he's at the piano he's describing to everyone who's around that piano that he had to get fundamental with it pro-nato and and and gooseneck that risk down. So that's the reason why I was. Because he was. He was on his last legs. He was out of gas and he was reminding himself to follow through on that jumper because he'd come up short in the second half so many times. So Jason I pride myself on trying to be an industry taste maker and I- passively aggressively sometimes directly but most of the time subliminally. Because I don't beat down talk about people that are copy my style. You did something in this dot. That may get copied. That's the watch the IPAD for affect your where we got Michael Jordan Laffin and so many iconic. Do you feel like this is about to be the new wave. It certainly techni maybe not with an IPAD. But it's a technique that others of us before and I've used before is is people watching something and getting their reaction to it The IPAD WITH THE ADVENT OF TECHNOLOGY. That the the IPAD pro shout Apple Address That was you know. Nice and big and people could see that clearly. If you notice that the first time I showed anything to anybody was Dennis Robin with my phone. Was Michael Speaking about the vacation. And that was an effort to get Dennis to focus and I hanging off the walls. No here's Michael Jordan talking about you. I need your full attention. Another feeling between Jacoby and his kids and me he does not fill them yeah. He's he's babysitting working towards So that's where that came from and we always wanted to use it with Michael but but we want to have it just like a little bit more professional and not have him squinting at my my tiny little phone If people do use that of course it would be it would be What do they say? Imitation is the highest form of flattery. So sure but I I know this. I don't know if it will be necessary with someone who is not as high profile or or you know I used as Michael. But the the impetus for that was that. Michael's been asked every single question and every Ryan May So how can we make this different for him? And how can he stay stimulated engaged and it was basically just kind toy from the play with in a way to bring people into the room without bringing them into the room so of course you want his mom to be there and see how your actual is mom will bring in the IPAD? Same thing goes with Isaiah and with Reggie and with Gary Payton with Jerry Reinsdorf. Let's get his reaction in real time so It was really effective for us. So is we sort of come to a close of this documentary and This particular describing episodes we need more episodes. Espn Connor Shale Libby. Geist write a check we need more episodes. We need eleven through twenty Jason. There's so many more as we could cover with Michael Jordan. You got him on text. I know you do. You got poke on techs. I've Seen David. Falk talking about the DOTS I've seen so many people affiliated with Mj. You have more footage. You have more access. Will we get more fron? Has You gotta you gotTa Ask? The p the good folks that we were talking to you about it. Right now is in official request from to Disney to erase create one bonus episode of the last dance. There's yes if we want to do that. There's plenty of material and do so I I got. I got into kid. So that wasn't an official request. But now we're GONNA make sure that that happens so people will listen to this but I do WanNa say like you've done amazing job with this and yeah it's it's really captured. The culture inside of sports outside of sports for the last five weeks during this very interesting time in American history in like do you ever just lie down at night. You can't sleep you look at the ceiling and just sort of consider not. I wouldn't say what you've done but what your you and your team has done for us in what that means to not just American society but to the glow is that ever hit you I think all of us are really proud. that we don't get this thing done in time and we got it done at all. There were a lot of we worked our asses off on this thing for two and a half years. It wasn't just the last couple of months. It was two and a half years of people like like Devon and Abi and Nina curse ditch and Chad Beck and Jake Rogalla Matt Maxson and Jillian Moosewood Bench's ASCII and Anzac Ross. I could go on and on and everyone. You didn't name who came in every I mean we were working weekends. We're working holidays. We were working non-stop on this thing to get it done by June second so to to accelerate that I mean normally proud that we were able to come together and get that done and I'm enormously proud that we were able to get dented at all. Frankly because because you know we could have just kinda thrown in the towel and stops when we said that we didn't have an office so the best the highest compliment you can give is what you guys just said is that It took people's mind off of off of all the awful things that were going on on earth right now and for an hour or two a week Gay People something to look forward to had so many people say like we can't wait for Wednesday night. I zoom with my family. We have a poker game with my boys on Monday night. We just talk about the last dance. And we zoom poker game things like that anytime that I get a message from anybody on instagram or facebook or wherever throughout the world. If they mentioned their family I try to write back to them because they say like my dad and I watched this or I showed this to my daughter or something like that so It brings people together if it connects people a little bit more and this time of disconnection. Then that's the highest possible complement and we're really really proud. We gotTA talk. Well it absolutely has and you know what we're not done with you. We're going to do one. Big Extra Bonus Recap episode of this because we know that everybody wants one more episode and ESPN knows it too. So we're GONNA get one more episode of you on this show and we're GONNA get one more episode of the last day. It's on the big screen. Jason Hair you said. I said your name earlier Jason Hare not air. Thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate you taking the time. Not just with US particularly to make this film that we have loved as a species. You have done something big for our species. During one of the strangest times our species ever seen a no it won't sink in. Now you will look back in years and sort of understand. It will resonate with you. What you've done for us. Thank you so much for doing this. This was this was The moment every week that I look forward to talking to you guys so so thank miss it next week. I'M GONNA MISS. Seeing you guys next weekend and Just chopping it up even when it's not about this this series. So can we see him? Person Owner Jalen getting together with you and with Jason and with Michael Jordan every Sunday night. It's just been such a wonderful piece of my life during such an awful time in our guys you like to see a happy in in pain you know what I want to say. The floor island ever do this on our show and I wanna say thank you so much. Jalen doing this with you and Jason is brought me so much joy every single Sunday night you know what Jay we always say at the end of the show that Charissa. We're not done we're not done. We're not done. We are not done because not only will the Jaylen Jacoby after show. Continue after this about Michael Jordan. We have other films from ESPN that we will break down in the after. Show thank you so much for watching us. Thank you so much for listening to us. Thank you Jason for joining us. Thank you Michael Jordan for being worthy of such a project. Everyone stay safe in your quarantine. We appreciate you taking in this content and we'll be back. Why is that Jalen? Because you gotta get to home schooling. And we're not done we're not done. We're not done kraft.

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Mason and Ireland [HR 1]

Mason & Ireland

38:05 min | 1 year ago

Mason and Ireland [HR 1]

"Wow poured into my own private tribute concert. I do like that song to not a good concert but as all right no no no. I'll take it. You hit a couple of notes in there. Yeah somewhere I'll take it it. I loved it too. I love to yes. Morales cannot sing but I loved it. He's not a fine vocalist. I'M NOT GONNA but his heart was in it. His heart was in it. I felt like he meant is the beauty of it on people. It's all happening is Thursday afternoon and Momo is in for John how about about Madame Tanya at last night watching that Lakers game I am like I am smelling championship. And they look so damn good they look so damn they I you you know I was thinking Ireland always does. He's always way too optimistic. No no but at the beginning before it starts. He's like well remember. When the brand got to Miami they went nine and eight? This team is absolutely on fire. And the last two nights have been statement wins at Denver and At Utah and that is for real and I I think. I don't think there's anybody who is I don't WanNa say surprised is D- like I'm surprised. They're this good this early there. This dominant early like anybody who tells you saw this coming is delusional. They're lying. He thought they would be. What are they now? Nineteen and three ninety two through nineteen and three like when we do the schedule comes out and we go through like what what do what do you think they'll be at this point. Yeah I don't think anybody at night now through nineteen and thirty no even I had them losing one of the back to. I thought they'd probably drop last night after after winning at them. Instead they hammered and one twenty one ninety six it was an absolute blow Ireland Ireland actually had them at twenty two and twenty game. Did He really uh-huh at twenty two. I would expect that from Michael Thompson should expected from John Ireland to usually building a loss. Here they play the same. I'm game by the same rules ones by so much last night. Lebron is shoes off with three minutes left to go in. And you know we'll get to that because that is wow. I thought that was awesome. I thought it was fun. You take the shoes off. Sign Nash You you give it to the little anchor kid fan. They were thrilled. Jumping up and down. Not Everybody loved it though. Well first of all. Actually I've got. I've got one that we open at this so first of all. Here's a little description of the shoe celebration or these sliding around. Let's call it the where'd you put risky? The business did business on the screen somewhere ron sliding across the floor. No Oh shoes so not. Everybody loved it. We did here is bill McDonald and STU due Lance Talking about these shoe celebration and hang on those were the Utah announcers. Here's Billy Mack and STU okay I just want to point out there. They're both the same. They're both the same so one more I. I did hit the right button here. Are the Utah announcers who are unbelievably offended by what Lebron did in sports more than anything should be about joy and to me. That's what Lebron was shown. Last tonight he was having fun. It is supposed to be fun and by the way. This team knows how to have fun. This team plays with with unbelievable. Believable joy enthusiasm There is there is an unparalleled togetherness. With his team actually developed McGee DN interview. You said this is the closest knit team. He's ever been part of out. And that includes that includes the foods that includes golden the state You know this is part of the get off my lawn brigade so I thought about this a lot when I I was kind of like how. How many minutes? We're left on the clock when this happened. I was watching at the end there and it was like it wasn't closed. The game was totally over the heat. Lebron giving away his shoes to a kid from the stands. That's kind of become a thing now like like kids in all these opposing arenas a always want shoes Lebron. He's actually done this a few you times. And it like makes their life like it's so cool when he does it and think about this is the opposing arena. So these are like presumably jasmine. There were a lot of liquor rush. But that's a real. It's a really nice gesture and there's just certain things like I. I'm not an advocate. A little for the jazz announcers here because I think about this is like okay. Yes sounds like a homer they're upset they're losing whatever but maybe he didn't know why his shoes were off like does the jazz announcer. They actually said head they. He gave a shoes away. Does he know that. Yeah yeah hang on so maybe not so like maybe. He didn't know that he gave the shoes away to the kid and he kind of saw things out of order and he's like why does he have his shoes off with three minutes. Left to go in the game so I I'm not saying that it's right but like cut them a little slack there he he may not have known that Lebron gave shoes away to like. Make some kid's life right there. I don't know it was a pretty big show. He made a big show of it. Yeah what do you think he knew. I knew the announcers. Oh you're Greg's comeback listing in your game when he actually like through gave the shoes away so either way the jazz were supposed to be great this year and they haven't been they're good. They're good they're not like like like. I thought I thought at the start of the year. I thought that chances teams got a chance to be a two seat. Yeah probably not now. Yeah probably not a two. Maybe they going around like everybody. Probably something like that. Clippers looks like and so you know they're getting beat pretty bad in this game. The jazz announcers answers are kind of like you know like Ireland's relentless Lakers homer. He'd self admitted right. So they're they're calling it for the home team but I would go in on on somebody else celebrate and do you really go in on it whereas just comment it was mostly. Did he go like a rant for another three minutes. It's afterwards no. It was actually right after it and then on the other clip that you have there the interrupting your lunch. Is You know this is the show. It was an an ice Jason. Sorry won't ice next time we just have this. I cancel culture whereas on that announcer terrible. Like this is just like a little bit of homework I to me. It seems like homer isn't and that he may not have had the full picture here but I mean yeah I was at the end. He says that he gave with shoes away to some kids he says it. Yeah and the same. I don't think anybody nobody should be cancelled over this way. I don't know this cancel culture. It's enough it's like like I I. That's all social media. There's there's something about that But I think like with this thing with Lebron and she's like if you ask him like out of the heat of the moment like like a disrespectful respectful. No but I'll say this there are some things that you think are actually not disrespectful. That totally are like When you play okay play slow pitch off? Okay still get up. I know for a while. Yeah the last year or two anyway When you're beating the team I like fifteen runs right? You know generally speaking the ideas you just go one time. Yeah you only down a bunt but you also like go one at a time. Let's say he hit a double or let you hit a home run right it just kind of jog and stop it second. You don't like go. This is so against John. Ireland believes right. You're either the hammer now. So it's also like Oh you like let's say somebody hits like you don't want to go out of your way to make it so obvious that you're trying to like not Vance the bunch runs but like don't slide into home and and try to like get that extra run when you're up eighteen right. Okay so I. I actually used to do this thing. Where like I used to switch it in College I? I'll bet left-handed okay. I'll just go left-handed this'll be fun. I also used to switch it a different way so so so like I am not a good left handed hitter. I was like a slap slap hitter. So it doesn't really translate to slow pitch softball but it's still kind of fun to get in there and swing left-handed jerks and I'm not terrible at it but like some people see that as disrespectful. Oh like don't don't go out of your righty take it easy on me. You're batting left. Handed like like they see that as disrespectful. Whereas I'm like no we're just trying not to run up the score on you? Yeah yeah no I can have fun while doing it so things that people think that that are disrespectful. Other people can see completely the opposite side. here's the way the the play that that particular moment was described by Stu and billy mack. Yeah Yeah it's fun that's funny. They're also winning you. Yeah they're winning a lot. They were like you're having fun of the. There's people who will think that like having fun too much in the Dugout when you're winning by a lattice disrespectful oh come on the baseball dodgers had bubble machine gene the DUGOUT. I know but like those baseball unwritten rules like waving a banana. I mean you're you're allowed to celebrate in the DUGOUT. I I mean I guess technically out on the floor defending it. I disagree that it's disrespectful. I think it's fine. It's fun it's fun. Sports should be but like I can see where they're coming from. Maybe the full pick coming up next that what we've gotten into some of the Amazing facts from last night's. Yeah plus bottom of the Hour K.. Ryan Abraham USC FOOTBALL DOT COM. Have you heard that. USC is bringing back Clay Helton for another year. I heard it and I have a very surprising take. Oh interesting. M- almost go hot take with us. That's all coming up for you Mason Ireland. Espn Anthony Davis and yeah that play was especially emblematic of what makes defensive player of the year He went up and contested. The shot the Bogdonovich shot. Yeah Donna Donovan got him on a pump fake he blew right by them and then reached behind him and block. That ball from behind He he is an extraordinary defensive player. He he kind of always has been. You just hasn't been on good defensive teams right so when you're on a good defensive team I mean you go down the list of people who've been defensive player your first team all defense team. Danny Green's really good defensive player. Lebron can be defensive player when he wants to be clear. Radley yeah I I mean. They're they're they're they're really good offensive team. So I think it actually just elevates him even higher because now you're working with people who are great who are as good as you and they push you to be better even two and here. We can hear Lebron James in the background. Lord have mercy but I told you about Lebron in the locker. Yeah that's how he is mass conducting it. Yeah he's just like he's like the viper in there like everybody kind of revolves around him. He's injecting himself into interviews. He's talking to people he's making people. People try to laugh in the middle of the WS just like the center of attention. Yeah all the time. And even when he's not he is he's having fun. Hey throw Friday's going right now. That means anything we say on the show could be on the fifth row. Fridays quiz. which is tomorrow at at five fifteen one question from every day this week and the prizes include fifth row seats to Lakers Timber Wolves on December eight and autographed basketball? And Anthony Davis Jersey and a Lebron James Jersey again tomorrow five fifteen and make sure you pay attention to everything thing we say because anything can be on the quiz. This portion of show brought to you by alignment healthcare changing health. Care One person at a time so last night. One twenty-one ninety-six the blowout when nine hundred thousand three now teno away from Staples Center Eighty nine of eleven. Twenty six points three blocks in just twenty six minutes Lebron Twenty points twelve assists in just twenty eight minutes and I think this is important. Frank Vogel is doing doing a great job of keeping the minutes down Both Anthony Davis and Lebron James now averaging less than thirty five minutes per game keeping something in the tank for a really long season. That's like downright four years in. Yeah that's what the warriors used to do to make it into magic but like that's what they used to do like if you look at the warriors starters. During their best years they would play about thirty a two to thirty five minutes a game. That's why they were fresh in the playoffs. Well in with the bench playing like to have the last couple of nights they blew the doors off. If Denver's bench. They did it again last night. What was it The bench was forty seven. Nineteen Kuzma plus twenty five Rondo plus twenty five white plus Nineteen Eighteen Caruso plus fourteen when you get that kind of bench production. Y- you don't necessarily need those guys on the floor for more than thirty five minutes And last night was just a an all-round great performance for them. I would say the best win of the season past winter the season. I don't know if I go there. Oh yeah put. It was an impressive win. What what what was the best win of the season if not last night? The Dallas was pretty impressive but that was also the early held held onto. And so you can't really Dallas. When was the one where you hit the shot to force overtime so Denver d- The night before was a pretty impressive win in Denver? The back to back the all dams considering with the health going on with the only difference. Guys Anthony Davis having to get the night before six guys with the flu. Yeah Yeah I think that's the most impressive win and by the way that's the first time Lebron James has one at Utah since twenty ten twenty ten and the the last seven games his team his teams have played there. So this is beyond the Lakers. Correct he didn't play either game last year. Right is out and this is going all the way back to to the Miami Heat. Yeah So satisfying I guess for for him. The other thing I loved season-high Thirteen steals season-high in high twelve blocks They did every little thing right last night too. Okay so we gotta do. The sports radio. Thing are the Lakers too good to soon. Can they keep this up or they peaking too early yeah. I'm not worried about that. I'm trying to introduce a little drama here. Why why drum? Why not just just have some fun with it really good? We can do that for the first time in six years really really good but she just do a little. Let's take our shoes off. Yeah slide across the floor a little bit. I feel yourself over there saloon. But you're not weighing laker gear. You're wearing like a plaid shirt like I don't know what to do about that coming up I'll tell you about that coming up Mason Ireland Momo's Infra John. ESPN LA US athletic director. Mike Bohn what he saying to the Clay Helton haters. My message to those fantasies. I share are your expectations. I share your frustrations and I understand the where they're coming from. I really do. But the Coliseum in my view with the renovation represents the the finest college football environment in the country and when it's full it's intimidating when it's full every major recruit in the country is inspired and begins. I think maybe that's where I WANNA be. And maybe I do want to be a Trojan and maybe I WanNa do have that experience of being a Trojan for life that leads to my ability to go onto the next level make a living and then use the experience to go on and be incredibly successful my professional career. That's what I want to talk to them him about. But by no means accepting exactly where we are we all share the same drive and passion to be the best and that's what we're challenging enclave to do and his team and for that matter student athletes involving all twenty one of our sports in our history has proven. We have the ability to do that. Various talking about how intimidating the dating full coliseum is the coliseum is not going to be full after the decision to bring back Klay Health Mason and Ireland. Momo's in for John and we're GonNa go to Ryan Abraham Right now. US FOOTBALL DOT COM. Hey Ryan how are you man. Gert I don't think I talked to you again before the party but here we are we. Are We got news. We got news so aw so Ryan. How surprised are you? I think over the last like seventy two hours. You started here more and more about it. Looks like he's really coming back and I it just it didn't seem possible even at USC that you would bring clay out in back. There was a statement by Mike Bone. The new athletic director. It just read so much like the statement last year from Lynn Swann. You have to move on but no it's USC there's a lot of other issues going on your athletic directors only been around for a month. They felt it was the best thing to do. But I've never seen the fan base this united. They everyone wanted klay out and gone. So it's I don't think it's the right move but over the last seventy two hours. That's where we're here again. So I'm not super shocked I think. USC does guys you know if you can't be super shocked with so Scott Wolf from the Daily News is reporting that. USC Did talk to Bob. Stoops things broke down over how much money his coaching staff would be paid. What do you hear about that? We heard you know nothing super specific about got any individual coach Bob Stoops Urban Meyer. But that was the big issue as what we heard about. If you bring in a powerful coach like that they will want to take over for a lot of the power in the in the office and I think that's what people have been reluctant to to get rid of so. I don't know if we've heard rumors about Bob. Stoops about Urban Meyer. I don't know how true they are but I feel like if you're gonNA reach out to those kind of people in a position where they're willing to give up some of that power and I. It doesn't seem like that's likely right now. So it just feels to me that They kept him because they didn't have another option like they kind of know. The team might not be great next year with the recruiting class. That's coming in. They don't maybe you don't feel like they couldn't for whatever reason they couldn't close with whoever they were going after or they couldn't maybe those people weren't as interested as as they would have wanted to them to be The Urban Meyer option never really seemed viable based on the scandals. They've come through so just seems like they just stuck with them because they they would rather stick with the guy then get turned down by seven people in a row. Yeah I mean I think that could that could be you know true I also feel like with only a month under his belt. It's not not the ideal time but that's the problem you bring in a guy who's it's a it's a it's a mess. It's a complete mess you've had ten years of really bad leadership and and you want someone that's a professional come in fix it He'd rather have a lot more time. And I get that but I. I don't think they really have their pulse. On how upsetting upsetting this would be to the fan base and how many people are going to cancel their season tickets and how many people are going to stop donating and you played that clip with Mike Bone. Hey fill up the coliseum. ASSUME IT'S GONNA be it's GonNa be worse than it was this year and it wasn't good this year and this is a newly renovated coliseum. You're new building. I just think you know they. They've got it'd be like your pros and cons. I don't think they realized how big these cons are of bringing cloud back. Mike Bone is a professional athletic director. The first one they had in a really really long time I mean this is what he's done he's done it a multiple schools but it doesn't feel like there there's a l as a far cry drive from Cincinnati. I mean this is a this is a huge sports market and this is obviously a USC. Town I feel like she did not really connected yet to what it means to being the athletic director. USC What do you think yeah. You know. There's some people because I always talk about. You don't need to hire anyone else. That knows the fight fight song anymore. Like we'll see if if you knew the fight song. Maybe he would know how important it is but I feel like those kind of hires what What got you here now and I think it's a mess to clean up? I think you know a year from now things will be better. It's GonNa be a really hard year for him having to endure what's going on here. You Watch what the social media whenever they post anything. I think posted about a holiday party yesterday and every comment on it you know. She gets racial and on twitter at every comment is about the football team so I feel like it's not necessarily about not getting it but just not realizing how big of a mess this is and you have to make a non USC decision and that's why you bring an outsider but this this is such a US decision to bring back and that's what they have to kind of break away from it. I think it's GonNa take a little bit of time but this was the first big move for for my bone and has not been a popular one. Well it's interesting with with Mike because he why why did it takes a long for him to start like what's the what's explanation. Why is he just coming on online? Now they they didn't get rid of Lynn Swann until July and until Until August was sort of like starting everything starting that clock and and they would have liked things that happen faster he went on quote unquote resigned. We've never heard from him again so it was It was really Kinda strange situation but you get. I mean they were bad decisions made and you want careful to come in and fix them. You bring in Mike Bone. I still like. It's such a last minute that it's a little bit harder but no excuses. I just don't feel like this. This was the right move to university. Should have made Do Are you hearing anything yet on. Coaching staff changes and by the way. There's this whole Graham Harold Harold dynamic. Where maybe he's a candidate for the? UNLV job maybe he leaves and goes to Texas to be the offensive coordinator under Tom. Herman what are you hearing on on that front. Because the offense was one of the one of the best parts probably best aspect of this year's team with the bright spot. US's offense last year was like barely early top one hundred and now they're in the top twenty I think The number five passing offense in the country that was the one bright spot in part of the reason. You don't WanNa bring a clay Helton back as if you you look at the staff whose worth poaching on the staff or who's going to be hired away we'll one of them and you know Texas Texas people. They could offer him over six million dollars a year for a few years to be their offense coordinator there with Tom. Herman you lose him. Then you also have to replace some other coaches. We haven't heard any specific names. I mean people keep talking about defensive coordinator clancy Pendergast or John Baxter. Special teams coach. But they're all the road recruiting right now. I don't know if anything's GONNA happen anytime soon. We saw the last time Took over before the holiday ball. He did get rid of some coaches So he might do that now but right now. Everyone's Kinda recruiting. I don't feel like they're gonNA make some kind. GotTa move on coaches anytime soon but the one big move. That's what hurt you. I see Grammar Leifer a head coaching job somewhere or that lucrative offer he could get a Texas I. I last thing out question for you Do you think what are your expectations when you look at the schedule scheduled for next year for what. They are actually capable of accomplishing because they open up against Alabama which is a brutal way mike bone own they start his era as ad. I mean what. What can you expect if you're a Trojan fan from this team with Klay Hilton? You know. It's probably going to be like a a seven to nine win team. But they're still be the most talented team in the conference most likely. But you're GonNa have Alabama you got Notre Dame You'll have Washington at home. But YOU'RE GONNA Oregon and Utah on the road. I mean there's just a lot of potential losses there we've seen. USC lost to Byu last year. I mean this this this season so I kinda think it's going to be along the same line where it's just not going to be elite. There'll be more talented. The people that win bunch of games but will they be able to beat the tower teams. And if you start off with uh you know a bad loss to Alabama. I mean it just kind of. That's the tone for the season. It's not gonna be happy and you know you got a pretty big bulb coming up either. The Alamo for the holiday eligible which you could play like a Michigan or Baylor. You don't want to lose that game either. I'm Mike Bono. Probably be the biggest cheerleader of all. You think Michigan or Baylor or the potential opponents at the holiday bowl I think Michigan's pre It seems like the Alabama could be a bail. It depends on what happens to Baylor right. Baylor loser yeah. So with the Alamo Bowl so I I'm not I'm not a big ball projection guy but that's kind of what I've heard the potential matchups there that would be against good teams. But you don't want to lose that game especially badly and then go and get killed in your opener against. It's really important. And I think for this team to try to finish this at least to get some momentum going into next year I'm going to be the against the grain person. So why don't you be against the a grain next and let's let Ryan get off the phone with all right okay. I was going to China chairman and I will I'll see you Saturday night at the big party. Good do you guys all right. Hold your cash. It's almost got a week coming up next Mason and Ireland. ESPN LA the SPN. Elaine Mason Ireland. What is going on? Don't forget fifth row. Fridays is what's going on I. We got a pair of fifth row. Seat See Lakers T.. Wolves Autograph Basketball Anthony and HE DAVIS JERSEY A Lebron James Jersey our biggest ever fifth row. Fridays package quizzes. Tomorrow at five fifteen and something from what we say. Today is going to wind wind up being on the quiz. And of course Momo's if I told you and she is filling in for John Ireland. Who will be back on the show them? I I if I told you that. Yeah it's great lab for you know better better with that little told you a little bit of music behind it all right so mama. You claim that you've got had a really Smoking hot take what is it. I think they're right. Who's right I think? USC is did the right thing ball. I think that's ridiculous. Listen when you're trying to reboot a huge a a program like USC and you're trying to do it in such a way where eight and four ranked number twenty two in the country with your second. String quarterback is not like good enough. You don't act in haste you don't act because there's tons of pressure you don't act because you just got the job in the fan base is going crazy you you wait until you really know what you WanNa do and you have a great plan going forward and you got the you got the coach that you feel great about you. Don't just like just do something just to appease the hounds like look at this summer with the Lakers. The Lakers went through some of the worst negatively and reaction from the FANGIO's starting from one magic. Step Down Jeff and carrying on the entire summer just from the way the coaching search which went from okay. So there's this like extended dis- firing of Luke Walton or whatever. They called it at the end. Right right there. Is this extended hiring process. Where like look like like Monty Williams and and Tai Lue said no or like the right all that all that stuff they end up with Frank Vogel who was like totally out of left field like Mr Smith goes to Washington like hi everyone? I'm Frank Vogel. We have absolutely no connection my last job. I could make it more often enormous where they are but the difference is we hadn't seen in Frank. Vogel is a head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers until EXPEC fair. No what it looks like when Clay Helton is the head coach at USC we are. I mean I'm I'm calling it. We're talking about it off the air. We are eight and four next year and eight and four is not good enough for USC. When five hundred seventy eight and four not good enough and I'll tell you what I hadn't thought about that? How big a deal to ball games going to be until I talked to Ryan if you wind up plan Michigan or Baylor or Oklahoma in a bowl game this this year whether it be the holiday bowl or the ALA mobile You've got to make a good showing you've got to win that game. Yeah otherwise you look bad right away. You've lost your first big boy football game Since it was announced you're coming back. That game is the Mike Bone game. And when you play Alabama next year you get the doors blown off you by Alabama. It looks even worse for you. There's something really. Golly Gee the way he sounds here again. This is what he's saying. This is Mike Bone on the PAC twelve network. I'm asked us to are those fans. I share your expectations. I share your frustrations and I understand where they're coming from. I really do but The Coliseum in my view with the renovation reservation represents the finest college football environment in the country and when it's full. That's the big issue when it's full. It's not going to be full Mike Mike Bone. It's not gonNA be full. Here's what keyshawn proud. Ucla said this morning on the morning. Show he she sean. L Z. And Travis I am mad as hail and I don't like it and I feel like the athletic director who came aiming Mr Bone hit comedy not to due diligence at the level that he needed to when I go back and I look at his track record as an athletic director and every stop that he's ever been at. I don't see anybody that makes me jump up and go okay. He hired that. Got The right guy. Colorado every coach. He was a disaster. You look at Cincinnati. Luke fickle doing a good job at Cincinnati but Essy's not Cincinnati. They're about to be okay you. They're not far off when you think about where. This university is headed as a football program. You're getting ready to roll into a new year getting ready to face Alabama. I gotta get out of this season. So depending on what bowl game you wind up being and I don't even know the dates of the ball game but I think it'll be like the Alamo bowl which is probably thirtieth thirtieth something like that you can really roll into the new year basically at Owen one. So just imagine if you had a bowl game in January you start Komo into in the New Year because you get smacked by Baylor Oklahoma if you plan them at Alamo Face Nick Sabin in Alabama and for people that really really honestly honestly think Nick Saban Alabama is not turn back around by by even if they didn't have better football team in programming. You by the way I think the whole Nick Sabin is over at Alabama thing. Yeah yea mostly overplayed. He had a two loss season. He lost by field goal to Auburn. Let's not let's not dance on the grave of The Alabama football football program yet. They're going to be a beast next year. They're going to be as long as he's there they're going to be great what you're Keyshawn San. He's an alum. Yeah look sometimes you have to have a longer term view and I think that. US's longer term view is we just came through two pretty big big scandals. It's not great with our football team right now. But they're still eight and four. It's not like we're talking about a forty eight team you're not you're not Stanford right now on your way five and seven five and seven and eight and four. That's improvement mud saying I'm not saying that's good enough what I'm saying is they don't have a great plan to fix this right eight now but you need to give your fans something. A reason for optimism and that is is not Klay Hilton. It is not I mean I. I've got a ton of USC fans on my twitter time on now and that's where it's only twitter airland talks to all the rich. USC alums on a street. There are tons of them and there's no support there. There's no support Lord among rank and file fans. We're hearing people canceling season tickets and dropping out of the Cardinal Gold Club and stopping their donations. And all that that stuff yet to do something to stanch that standards short went is eight and four decades and fired right if eight four next next year gets him fired. There's no reason to keep him on for this year. Yeah because you don't get the whoever Mike Bone Highway Sanchez. Exactly right flow of blood from a wound. I think it might be basically what it is. You're staunch start. Maybe it's Don I don't know yeah. I'm not even sure so. I wasn't close close close enough. Yeah I think if you're mike bone and you gotta make this big higher. You're going to spend twenty million to get rid of clay and I'd probably twenty probably more K. It's probably double the cost. Take to hire somebody new right and you're not. You're feeling a little pressured into it. There's there's not like a really obvious thing unless I mean who knows what he feels about. Bob's maybe he was worried about. You know if this is the right guy. I don't know I don't know how those conversations went did craft stay down because he had a healthy if we don't always coaching the XFL right now. Yeah but that just waiting for the next GIG. I mean if if the real reason was we don't want to give Bob stoops enough power and enough money to put together as coaching staff. And that's a terrible reason for not hiring a guy. Yeah that's not the that's not a good reason. Yeah a good reason is. We're not totally sure if he's the guy right like that's a good reason and maybe somebody said abstracts was the guy that you hear the keys to the program do it's Kinda. UCLA did the chip. Kelly they relate. Okay we're going to go out and spend whatever we gotta do. Yep that's the guy he has one. He won at Oregon. He did okay and the pros for a little bit. And then that didn't go as well but at the college level. He's he's the guy the promos. There is only one uber. Candidate and Uber candidate was urban Meyer. Now I don't believe and by the way Bruce Feldman yesterday joined us and I don't want to put words Bruce Mouth but he said I'm not sure that he wants to go back to coach that his health condition that the system the brain that he's dealing with is is real. He's enjoying TV and maybe he doesn't want to go back into coaching. So maybe that wasn't even an option. But the fact that he was out they're seemingly an option by the way not only seeming to be an option he was doing the pre game and the hand time in the post game on all those. US The post. From Greg Bergman right he was which was very weird he was reading about himself. I mean he was out there whether he wanted the job. Bob Whether you consider just the fact that he was out there because Ireland told me they fans wouldn't have been satisfied with anybody but urban Meyer that Bob stoops would not have gotten the job done when the press conference. I think Bob Switzer press conference. I think firing and Bob's and then hiring Bob. That's firing clay wins. The press conference difference. You're right so think they. I think they had to know how unpopular this would be right. Yeah had to they have to know and they did it anyway or did they. I don't know it's it's hard. I mean Mike Bone sounds very. Mr Smith Goes to Washington Ali G about it. I was talking to page on around the Horn today. Take them from Colorado and he told me a funny story Just kind of about how savvy he was in a it was a story about like what he was going to break a story and and I think there was a candidate out there that he didn't really like but he just wanted to mess with them anyway and told the put his name in there just to mess with them. That that sounds pretty savvy. But I'm not saying he's great yet. We don't know enough but if he's going to make a decision it's going to cost the university upwards of forty fifty million dollars. Yup you better feel in your in your in your bones okay bones that this is the one hundred percent right thing to do that. You're going to stand by it and this is the decision. When you're going to be judged on yeah? I don't think he felt that. If you don't feel that then you stay right where you are. You take it on the chin. You hope clay can make you look good and if not then you spent a lining up your next fan and I was an employee for almost a decade. I owned the movie movie theaters. Let's see for many years I've ties to USC As a US fan where we are sucks. It sucks where we are sucks. Yeah it was like that for the Lakers for six six years and they waited out they went through the process. They got Lebron one year the first year. It didn't go well. They're trying to get a second star. They did whatever they had. It's that secondhand stuff. But they need to change their mansions. There was constant churning change and instead we've got stability at eight and four were stable but we're eight and four. Yeah not good enough I coming up next for you What Javale McGee said is really really telling about this? Lakers team really really really telling. Have you heard this Garrett. We'll do it next mason. You're supposed to say no. No no one told me next. Oh yeah tell me more about it. That'd be I heard the other comment there you go. That's coming up next for you. macer in Ireland Momo's in for John E._S._p._N. L._A..

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"This episode of hormonal is brought to you with financial support from buyer to learn more about fire support of hormonal and other work here clue. Check out hello clue dot com slash buyer. Hey this is cassandra. I'm the executive producer here at the podcast on hormonal. We explore the science behind hormones. But we also talk about society and the world around us on hormonal. We know there are lots of women who have periods and lots of down. We also know that there are people who aren't women who have period two. We also know that we have listeners. Who have never had periods. We hope you feel welcome. Even when a term that guest uses. Maybe doesn't apply to you at clue. We believe that our identities are not determined by our bodies. Thanks for listening to hormonal. You're listening to hormonal. The podcast from clue the menstrual health app. I'm really ram john. If you're just joining us. This season is all about birth control. And it's also a big year for the birth control pill. Twenty twenty marks the sixtieth anniversary of the pill and on hormonal. We wanted to take this opportunity to look at the history of this impactful invention. I have a really great interview on the history of the birth control pill but before we get there at hormonal we were wondering who were these first users our parents and grandparents who took the pill was it like what were the side effects. So yes i called your grandma and asked her about her sex life easy access to birth control or even the legal right to access. Birth control is relatively new. Even after the pill was out on the market there were laws on the books that prohibited even married couples in some states in the us for example from gaining access was only nineteen sixty five. I think that the united states supreme court Prohibited states from having laws against married couples married couples even using birth control pills or birth control in general for that matter today trish is seventy seven years old but in the mid nineteen sixties. Trish was a newly married biology student and she said she wanted to go on the pills so that she could enjoy married life but still continue her studies and it worked for a while at least and at the time the medical wisdom was that after. You've been on the pill for three or certainly six months you needed to stop for a month to let your body quote be normal and then you could start again so we did that and used condoms for that month and i promptly got pregnant. The science it seems was still catching up to the realities something. We noticed when talking to this first generation of birth control pill users is that a lot of them felt kind of isolated not talking to their moms or sisters or even peers about it for a whole host of reasons from religion. My family were catholic to general teenage awkwardness. We'd never asked my parents sword. You know to for prescription. I want to introduce you to vicky. She's from san francisco. And i went on the pill in the sixties as well. She was self admittedly a little prudish at the time especially compared to her peers. In fact it earned her nickname it was iron pounce vicky told us that she was so reluctant to talk to an adult about getting the pillet i that she actually stole pills from her. Mother's birth control stash. She had this huge stash of birth control pill also taking a month worth was not a big deal. I don't think she. She never said anything. I doubt she ever noticed. Let's travel from the sunny streets of san francisco to montreal and meet vivian. Name is that the end. I was seventeen when i first went on the pill and that was in nineteen sixty seven. Vivian was working at a big fair called expos sixty seven that summer when a co worker made her an offer she said oh i had a. I'm not using it so you can use it. And somehow i went to a pharmacist and he gave me the prescription. I guess without asking too much information. Some of our users had side effects. I felt nauseous. Most of the time but most didn't i really had no side effects. It was really wonderful. Now nanteuil no. Actually there wasn't. I was absolutely fine on it. Okay that was chapter. One of our first generation user stories who all took the pill in the nineteen sixties. Listen at the end of the show for chapter two. Where removed from the swinging sixties to the disco decade of the nineteen seventies. We just heard a lot of personal stories about birth control users. But what about the birthday. We're here to celebrate the birth of the birth control pill. The pill opened up a lot of opportunities for people in a lot of different ways it offered women and people with periods more flexibility to explore their sexualities or expand one's career path before becoming a parent or planned pregnancies in a way that makes the most sense for each individual but there's also a shadow side to this history with hasty and ethically dubious research and development standards marginalized women were the ones who bore the brunt of tests to develop this new miracle pill here to tell us the story and much more is jonathan ike. He's the author of birth of the pill and joins us from chicago illinois. Jonathan thanks so much for joining us on hormonal. Thanks for having me. It's nice to talk to you so tell us. Why were you interested in the story. The origins of the birth control pill. I a sermon wants of from a rabbi. Who said that. He thought the birth control pill was the most important invention of the twentieth century and that it was an example of what the torah tells us about being partners with god and creating the universe that we have a responsibility to make the universe to make change in the in the world not to accept the world as we find it. And i thought wow the birth controls the most important invention or one of the most important inventions of the twentieth century. How come we know so little about who invented it and how it was invented in y and just curious. I began researching those questions. Yes i'm very interested as well. And i'm hoping you'll set the scene for us. I want to know more. About what the scientific and cultural landscape was like at that time. So could you read for us a little bit from your book. This is from the very beginning of the book. It's chapter one called a winter night. It takes place in manhattan in the winter of nineteen fifty. She was an old woman who loved sex and she had spent forty years seeking a way to make it better though her red hair had gone gray and her heart was failing. She had not given her desire. She said was strong and simple as ever. She wanted a scientific method of birth control. Something magical that would permit a woman to have sex. As often as she light without becoming pregnant it struck her as a reasonable which yet through the years one scientists after another had told her no. It couldn't be done now. Her time was running out which was why she had come to an apartment high above park avenue to meet a man who was possibly her hope. The woman was margaret sanger one of the legendary crusaders of the twentieth century. The man was gregory goodwin. Pincus a scientist with genius. iq and a dubious reputation. Pinkus was forty seven years old five feet ten and a half inches tall with a bristling mustache and graying hair that shot from his head in every direction he looked like a cross between albert einstein and groucho marx. He would speed into a room. Working viceroy between his yellow fingers and people would huddle close to hear what he had to say. He wasn't famous. He owned a note. Scientific prizes no world changing inventions were filed under his name. In fact for a very long stretch of his career he had been an outcast from the scientific establishment rejected as a radical by harvard humiliated in the press and left with no choice but to conduct his varied and oftentimes controversial experiments in a converted garage yet. He radiated confidence as if he knew the world would one day recognize his brilliance. Wow you mentioned two very important. Characters here margaret sanger and gregory pincus. Could you tell us a little bit more about them. And actually four main characters that you profile in your book yes The really the dream of birth control of of oral contraception begins with margaret. Sanger back around nineteen fifteen when she was a young woman working as a nurse in a the poorest neighborhoods of new york city. She began to say that what she really needed was effective. Birth control that you couldn't teach women about birth control and then leave them with nothing and women needed. She felt like was a miracle tablet. That's what she called it. Something that would allow them to turn on and off the reproductive systems but everybody told her she was crazy that it was illegal that even if it weren't illegal it was scientifically impossible and that no doctor. No scientists would ever even agree to research such a thing because it would be career suicide so she continued for decades to ask people to seek a solution but it wasn't until nineteen fifty when she met gregory pincus that she finally found a scientist who said there might be a way and of course the science had to catch up to her. it was by the nineteen fifties that we were understanding how hormones worked and it was beginning to Occurred to doctors into scientists that they could manipulate the human body with hormones that they might be able to fix things like diabetes that they might be able to cure diseases by using hormones and pincus when confronted by sanger said. You know it's possible that we could use hormones to trick the body into thinking that it's pregnant and the woman would would not conceive so that's really where it began with those two characters and then two more very important characters came on board Sanger could not get parent planned parenthood to agree to fund this research so she had to go out and find somebody who would pay for it. hospitals Universities drug companies. Were not the least bit interested. They were afraid to go anywhere near this. So sanger found a woman named kathryn. Dexter mccormick one of the wealthiest women in america and she agreed to to fund the entire project herself and then there was one more piece of the puzzle missing Pinkus was a a lab guy. He didn't really know how to treat patients. He didn't know how to run experiments on humans only on rats rabbits so he found a gynecologist. A very prominent gun college worked at harvard named john rock and john rock agreed to help him with experiments on women and and running clinical trials to see if this idea that progesterone might be ineffective contraceptive could be could be proved. So what was the state of science at that time especially in terms of the women's movement and the idea of sexual liberation at the dawn of this invention. I don't think i'm exaggerating when i say that. There was no interest whatsoever in the scientific community in women's reproductive health in women's sexuality. The only question was Was fertility really. This was the nineteen fifties and after the post war boom With having bigger and bigger families and a lot of women were going to to Their doctors into their gynecologists if they were infertile seeking help to try to conceive. But that's about as far as it went. Okay and as these four characters. Converge rock mccormick pinkas and sanger. What happens at that point. This to me is one of the great stories in scientific history. Because you have these four outsiders these rebels who really believe that if they can pull this off they can shake up the world that they can change the very dynamic of humanity. They can change the very essence of sexuality. And but they have to do it all underground. They have to do it with no help from the federal government. No help from universities. No help from corporations. They are completely flying under the radar and they have no idea. There's no roadmap for this. There's no precedent so they don't know even if it works. Even if their tests show that they can make a birth control pill will they be able to get a drug company to manufacture it. Will they be able to get the government to approve it. Will people take it. There has never been a drug that has been approved by the fda for something that doesn't cure disease or ease a pain. This is the world's first. Social drugged reliant. So why exactly was it underground. Could you explain that in more detail for our listeners. Yeah they had to go underground for several reasons. One is that They could never get approval. Much of what they were doing was illegal. It was illegal at the time to distribute information about birth control. Margaret sanger was arrested several times for mailing information mailing pamphlets about contraception. So they had to be careful that they not break any laws and the other issue is that when they started testing in clinical trials. There was the no approval for this. There was no permission. There was no consent so everything they were doing was meant to prove this thing worked while attracting the least possible attention okay. Well what was the process actually like. Can you explain to us what the scene looked like. What were these every day characters dealing with as they were basically experimenting with the birth of the birth control pill it was it was a mess To put it mildly of i they began in the lab right Pincus had a laboratory that he built out of a home in shrewsbury massachusetts and it was a converted home One of his scientists was actually living there and they were testing it at first on on rats rabbits and then they needed to try to find women who would agree to do this and that was very challenging. They began john. Rock had some women who were trying to get pregnant and they ask these women if they would agree to take injections of progesterone the theory being that it would rest their reproductive systems. They would not have Periods they would not be able to reproduce for awhile and then perhaps when they stopped taking the progesterone their bodies would rebound they call it the rock rebound and then they they might have success in getting pregnant so ironically the very first attempt at oral contraception Were a experimented on women who were desperately trying to get pregnant and from there. They needed more women they needed to show this. If they were gonna get approval for this from the fda to show that it worked on it hundreds if not thousands of women so from there they moved to an insane asylum in massachusetts and they began testing it on women there without the permission of those women They would just line the women up and say we're giving you an injection today Let us know how you feel. And then they started trying it on men there to just to see what would happen again. there was very little regard for the side effects or for the safety of these initial Guinea pigs okay. This i think is where we're starting to get into the really ethically questionable and disturbing part of the pills development history. There are other murky parts to this story. But i going back to rocks underground experiments. How long did it take to develop this. I pull that went from zero to testing on rabbits and then the women on whom he tested it was really remarkably fast. When you think about it within three or four years of the very first idea occurring to sanger and pincus They've got a prototype and they're testing it on women as i mentioned not only in this insane asylum but people who work for pinkus and rock women the lab are asking for it because they're so desperate to avoid becoming pregnant In some cases they have you know six seven children already. They don't to have more and they're willing to risk the side effects because this is such an important game changing medical event. You mentioned that rock tested this drug on men and women in an insane asylum and i understand that rock also tested it on himself. Yes he did One of the very first important tests was whether this would have fatal side effects right It hadn't been tried before and rock to his credit injected himself to make sure that they were not doing anything. That would be You know horrifyingly dangerous in. They didn't think it would be what they knew about hormones. What they knew about professor at the time suggested that it might Induced changes in the body. But they didn't think it was likely to be fatal so yeah they tried it on a rock traded on himself. They tried it on some of the men in the insane asylum. And this is interesting and important i think when when sanger and catherine mccormack heard that they were testing this on men they got very upset and they said stop immediately we are not paying you to create or even experiment on birth control for men. It's very important point. Yeah they Money and they were afraid that somehow men would hijack this thing. It was very important for them that women gain control of their own bodies and they wanted a form of birth control that women could take without the involvement of men without the permission of men without even the knowledge of man if in some cases because history showed that when men controlled access to birth control. When when when safe sex was dependent on a condom. The men could not be trusted and that was paramount for them. Okay this story in history is really starting to heat up. Let's pick back up with more after this quick break. Hormones brought to you by clue the period tracking up and menstrual health encyclopaedia. That takes your cycle seriously and right. Now we're asking for your help clue needs your financial support to keep the lights on. You can do that by becoming a clue plus subscriber your subscription not only keeps the work. You're a clue going. But it also supports menstrual health research around the world aunt protects data privacy. Your subscription gives you access to our entire library of articles as well as new articles app features and curated content as their released for more on how to support the work here at clue and reap the benefits of becoming a clue plus subscriber check clue dot plus all right back to the show. You're listening to hormonal from clue. I'm your host rearrange. John okay jonathan before the break you were telling us how these two powerful women were angry that some initial tests were being done on men. Now that's interesting because at clue we get questions. All the time about one is men's birth control coming. Yes and that's a really good question. Because one of the unfortunate side effects of this birth control pill that sanger and pincus developed a rock and mccormick to is that it takes off the hook. Women get get the power as they should women get control of their own bodies as they should but one of the side effects is that men can can kind of take it for granted they can assume that the women are are handling it and as a result. They don't even feel like they need to be a part of the conversation and they don't take much responsibility in some cases and that's that's not fair it needs to change and if there were more options for men if men were willing to endure some of the side effects that these women endured Over the years as as the Especially when the birth control pill was new We would have seen a more just system but right now that system is skewed toward responsibility for the women and speaking of side effects these first pill prototypes what was happening with side effects. And what level of progesterone are we talking about here. Can you give us a reference. For how much of the hormone or how much of the hormones were in these pills. The levels were much too high. They were probably five or ten times higher than they needed to be in the beginning and that was just a part of the process of experimentation and the men who were running. These experiments were biased. Because they were men they were not experiencing the side effects. They felt like whatever side effects. The women had to endure. It was worth it to make sure. This pill was one hundred percent effective so they aired on the side of high doses to make sure that the thing worked that it was completely reliable because they knew in order to get fda approval for this thing they had to prove as as that was as close as possible to one hundred percent effective. So women suffered tremendously in an Nausea headaches Bloating things sometimes were sometimes. There were some you know at least a few cases of serious side effects that that produced Serious illness this is all very disturbing john. Baxter it is and you know. Oftentimes this is true. When you look back at events that we celebrate as as momentous they were you know they were acts that were performed by flawed people who were product of their times and and and i have to say in their defense that this is how clinical trials were often done at the time. It was common for people to do scientific experiments. Without the consent of the people who were participating it was common for male scientists to ignore the differences between men and women or to take for granted the side effects that women might might Suffer because we lived in a in a different world misogynistic world more racist world and It was it was easier for white men to experiment on on women of color and not suffer any consequences for that right. So tell us about the move from shrewsbury massachusetts. Two trials. That happened in puerto rico. When exactly did these experiments begin in the mid fifties when it appeared that the that the progesterone was working that it was stopping People stopping the women from getting and from They want they needed more people to experiment on Margaret sanger had already been working with a very controversial group of people who supported the jenex movement and those eugenicist had already paid to create a birth control clinics in puerto rico in san juan Where birth rates were were. Were very high where women were were desperate for for a birth control and it occurred to pincus that they could perhaps find doctors nurses and patients to participate in in more clinical trials in in puerto rico so they began shifting their operation down there and began offering the pill in some cases. May i think it was the injections in the very beginning. But they began offering the progesterone to women in san juan and They had finally for the first time. a reasonable number of of women who who were enrolled in the study and they could begin to really test it in some in some larger numbers. Could you clarify for everyone. who's listening. Why was why were these clinics. Or why was the these eugenicist interested in puerto rico and opening up clinics puerto rico. The jenex movement was a very popular one in the united states in the early part of the twentieth century Today we associated with With racism and it was certainly racist to some extent and some of the people involved were more racist than others but the belief was that certain people should be encouraged to have more children and certain people should be discouraged and certain people should not be allowed to have more children in particular The disabled the women who were mentally ill and some people believe that certain minorities should be discouraged from having more children and this is where the eugenics movement got really controversial in puerto rico. The idea was that families were very large and that they could be helped to have fewer children Some of the geneticists have different motives. I won't get into who Who stood for what. Because i'm not in a position to judge all of them but Sanger saw useful allies in the utanics movement. She saw people who agreed with some of her. Goals Sanger was racially progressive in many ways and by today's standards are racist in some ways. But i think in general. She believed that pragmatically. This was a good thing for her to be able to piggyback on and to find a place and find some people who could help protest the birth control pill so she was able to connect pinkus with some of the people who had already set up clinics in puerto rico clinics that had been funded and created by the movement. So what happens in puerto rico would be goes on. We spoke earlier about Or we mentioned earlier. That testing moves there. And i don't want to gloss over that. There were twenty six cases of severe blood clots and six people died. Yes and it was never quite possible to firmly conclude that those were a result of the birth control pill but there were As you said dozens of cases of illness and the you know something that we had to really consider when you think about the cost of creating this birth control pill when you consider the suffering not to mention the hundreds of thousands of women who suffered severe side effects that were that were not as medically serious but nevertheless Caused great discomfort. This is the price that was paid for developing a pill that seen as something That would improve and and change you know countless millions of lives and and they talked about it because some of the nurses some of the doctors who were in the clinics complained to pink. And said you know you've got stop This is is wrong and again partly because they're man partly because their doctors They viewed this as Sacrifice worth making that. This was They were looking at the big picture and they believe that they were. They would be judged on on the right side of history. Could you give us a specific example of what the experiment look like. Or what the trial look like whether clinics setup Throughout the island. Mostly around san juan and They would advertise in the newspapers. They would tell people word of mouth that this new form of birth control was was being offered and It was interesting because it was of course In violation of of the catholic church has doctrines and the priests on sunday would warn women. You know we've heard that there these experiments going on. We want to remind you that Birth control is a sin and That would only increase the demand. There'd be bigger lines on monday morning. outside these clinics And women would come in and they would Receiving a as i said at first they were injections and then As the pill was improved they them Bottles of pills and the women would take them and come back and be tested and pap smears and Check to see if they were You know what kind of side effects they were suffering but most importantly you know whether the pill was working and it showed that it was effective of remarkably. You know to a very high degree but that the side effects were were tremendous as the jonathan. How do you view that part of the history of the birth control pill. I'm not expecting you to justify those times or those people's choices but frankly it is disturbing that so many black and brown women were harmed because of the. Us's call nine of puerto rico and the subsequent trials that that occurred there. But i'm sure that there are plenty of listeners. Who know that they have benefited from taking the pill so stepping back. How do you evaluate this chapter of the pills history now. That's one of those giant really difficult questions. I feel the same way about this. That i feel about american slavery that this country this economy so much of our comfort today was built on the suffering of others and the same is true for the birth control pill. Women's lives freed women. It allowed women opportunities that they never would have had before College jobs families sex so much came from the pill and it came up because people suffered for it that that women Black and brown women in particular were treated like second class citizens and You you just. That's sad part of the world that we live in. And what happened. After the puerto rican trials were. They deemed a success. What actually were the results. That came out of it. The puerto rican trials were successful enough that sanger and pinkus and rock and mccormick could begin to declare success to tell the world that they hit invented the first hormonal birth control and oral contraceptive. That would change. Women's lives and women began clamoring for it even before it was approved by the fda once the news got out. Women were begging their doctors. How can i get this win. can i get it. I can't wait Because if i have another child is going to kill me. Or it's going to deepen the poverty in which i'm already living and it really became an issue of the the the demand Driving the course of events it it was almost like once they hit allowed this genie out of the bottle. It it they. They couldn't put it back so they sought fda approval. They did not call it birth control. They called it a a something that would regulate the menstrual cycle that it would be a pill for women who had irregular cycles and the fda approved it on those terms insisting that the bottle would carry a warning that says this may prevent pregnancy. Which just further fuelled demand for it was like a great advertisement and women by the hundreds of thousands by the millions. began Getting prescriptions before it was even called birth control. Gosh this is so fascinating. I have several more questions for you. so the pill comes back to the us mainland. How does it go from trials and then into our parents or grandparents medicine cabinets very quickly. It was really remarkable as soon as the fda approved this in nineteen fifty-six for regulating menstrual cycles the demand for it was enormous. Doctors began calling their patients. Women who were desperate not to have more children or who were desperate to delay pregnancy after having just been married College students on on campus began going to the health clinics. And asking for this. Everybody knew even though it wasn't identified yet as birth control. Everyone knew what it did. And it became enormously popular word of mouth spread. They didn't really have to advertise at all. And then after a few years once in hundreds of thousands of women in the us and around the world even more. We're using it. It was impossible to stop and then they were able to go back to the fda and say This also works as birth control. it turns out that you know we. We didn't identify it properly. And now we'd like to have it marketed as birth control and the fda approved at to. What do you think the legacy of the birth control pill is especially in this year. The sixtieth anniversary of the pill. Even now we're just calling it the pill as if it were the only one. Yeah that's remarkable when you think about it. There's no other product that i can think of. That doesn't even need a name. Is there. There's not the car or the tv right. There's four hundred different brands and styles. The pill is just the pill because it was such a huge game changer. And it was all you needed to know that you're either on the pill you're not on the pill right. It was. It was such a giant force in changing our culture. And i think the legacy of the pill is complicated. It is a part of of the complicated nature of of of sexual dynamics at its but overall i think it as as i said in the beginning of this interview. It's one of the most important in inventions of the twentieth century. It's something that really changed. The fundamental nature of what it means to be human being on this planet at change the balance of power in the workplace. It changes the dynamics of of human relationships that changes our sexuality changes education levels changes the economy. You could even argue that it is you know changed. Politics in war allowed women To have far greater control over world events than they previously had. So i think it's it's one of the most fascinating and powerful innovations of our our time. Jonathan i is the author of the birth of the pill. He joined us today from chicago illinois. Jonathan thanks so much for joining us on hormonal. My pleasure and as promised chapter two of stories from our first generation users jumping a little to the early nineteen hundred seventy s. We had to surrey in the uk. Elaine went on the pill when she was fifteen. She wanted help with her painful menstrual cramps. I was taken to the doctor by my mother because she was so sick of me. Groaning and moaning every month and an input on it. I mean obviously it was handy later on as well but with obvious reasons. Elaine story was a bit different than some of the others. We heard she told us that. She and her peers were actually encouraged to be on the pill. It was a sort of in q rule. They in sort of giving it think it was quite new toy in quite novel. Two women that we spoke to in australia both got their first birth control pill a prescription from a university doctor on ginny and i took the pill in non chain seventy one when all was eighteen. I had my boyfriend from the previous year. And i'm we want to have sakes and i was very excited about going to. University did want to complete a degree. I didn't want to get pregnant. Jenny story highlighted commonality. That we saw across our first generation users. I show in margaret also got her prescription while studying where stepping into her adulthood opened up a new world view in many ways when i got university in nineteen seventy. It was like the opening up of a whole new situation. It was like a general awakening for me at a not only just the pill but it was like was like the sense of the world was changing. Suddenly people were talking about monitoring's in vietnam women's rights and abortion on demand. And the pill. And this i think is still true today that when someone i started to think about a birth control option that works for them. It's an opportunity to really take your destiny into your own hands. But now there are more options than in previous decades and more opportunities to find birth control solution that works for you but that wouldn't be the case without these trailblazers who helped make history and later became our teachers parents nurses on cousins and doctors. And for that. I and the whole team here. Hormonal want to say thank you and now the credits for molineaux is hosted by me rearrange john. Our executive producer is cassandra stunt with editorial help from amanda shea steph. Leo and nicola leads special things to marta. Pucci trudy carter maddy she's league. Ryan duncan are brian. Claudia taylor lena. Calvin linear brave. Boy you'll meet one day and jane par berman mixing and recording help from boza park productions and recorders studios in berlin. And of course a very special. Thank you today to our first generation pill users who took the time to connect with us from all over the world. Vicky billion a lame trish jenny and marguerite you were all a delight and of course you can find us on social media and we really wanna hear from more first generation users of the birth control pill let us know on social media or send us an email at podcast at hello clue dot com. Thanks for listening to hormonal please. Rate end subscribed and tell a friend until next time. I'm rea- ram john.

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Episode Ten - Timelines, Rodman's Practice, The Shot, Saying Goodbye

Jalen and Jacoby

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Episode Ten - Timelines, Rodman's Practice, The Shot, Saying Goodbye

"Don Jacoby the APP show is proudly presented by state farm. When you want the real deal like a good neighbor state farm. Is There Jalen and Jacoby to episode episode? Ten takes us to Salt Lake City. Utah and that series against the jazz and B's Bulls in that team that duo of Stockton and Malone that Fan fan base that environment and of course the shop now you're an NBA player. That's when you saw that shot and you saw Jordan. Hold that gooseneck. What went through your mind Michael Jordan or I could have been Byron Russell Brian. Russell that that that's going to Mama. I was playing minutes. I was contributed. I was hoping to try to make a name for myself. Just young a bug on a windshield a happy that I have my vest given me an opportunity in believing in me Larry. Bird giving me an opportunity to play but that's all time elite greatness. It is just think about. This man is already won five championships. Jacoby and in the six one he steals the basketball from Carl Malone. They don't call time out goes to live to the floor and makes a great play. Free Throw Line area and makes the game winning shot. I really wish and I know like the wizards years maybe spokane finally of Four J. That should have been it. That should've been it. Well I I think the through. This documentary learned sort of the ethos of MJ. And I feel like he feels that there was much left for him to give and he needs that competition but one. I'll about the experience of the last dances over time. You remember the shot you know but you forget things like Scottie. Pippen's back and you forget things like the layup that present you forget this deal and that's one thing that's been so nice about this documentary as filled in the blanks in my memory of all those moments that I've watched but didn't carry with me this many years later and because of that reason it is so exciting to discuss all of this with the director of the film. Just like we saw the bulls when they went from our friend and colleague. Doug counts to Phil Jackson with Real Guidance. And the right coach. Nba teams go from good to great just like real help from your state. Farm agent can make all the difference in protecting what matters most Jalen who are some of the greatest coaches and NBA history. Off The top of your head some of the greatest coaches the NBA history. You start the early days you have to Mitch. A red are back as you fast for that to the eighties. You gotta think about Pat Riley. Shout to Casey Jones as a member of the Celtics Head coaching staff. Gray Popovich of the Senate Tonio Spurs the work. That he's done there. Doc rivers what he's done with the Celtics in the clippers. Their been some really influential coach Phil Jackson when an eleven championships with the Bulls and then going on to the Los Angeles Lakers am i. God Larry Legend. That's right I said it the only player to win. 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I have to say something that we all have naysayers and I look at social media every now and the Jason and people will be like. Yo Look Jaylen hair. It looks like a logo. He looks like NBA Two K. Is Too dark is to? Chris and I know they just hate him because I nor them fresh. I feel the same way when I see critics out the dock and ninety nine percent of people. Love it some people. I can't follow it. It goes back to ninety two. Go back to ninety three. That's how you can tell the story. Have you her any of this has some of? It's been a blip on your windshield. What are your thoughts when you hear that? I've certainly heard it. Yeah I can see the the criticism And people are entitled to to whatever their opinion is if they couldn't follow it then then You know it's either not for them or too it's failing of ours in the edit room we Thought about this long and hard. You know we have. I had a huge Cork Board in my office and that was kind of like the mothership so every day we come into my office and there was this big brick wall with his big cork board in all these No cards on it and the green ones were ninety. Eight and the white ones reflect back. And that's how we could tell you know how the story went. We would switch these cars around sometimes and tell different stories in different places but by and large it was it. Was that eighty four. Ninety eight time mine was the white cards and ninety seven. Ninety eight was the green cards. I I Should think about Posting that so that people can see what we were seeing And for those of people who didn't understand it. I don't think that's GonNa Convince Anybody of I've learned my lesson in the last few weeks Not to engage in anything like that online people want to never. I will listen Jason. You're being very respectful. You're being very nice. But I'm a special General Ed. It's not that complicated. There is a big on the screen for about ten seconds. That tells you what you're about to see in this. Also some things is horace grant on the team is Toni. Kukoc is Dennis Rodman on the team. What Guard is on the team? Is it the white guy? John Baxter. The White Guy Steve Kerr. There's aiders where you are in the time line. You know what no trouble whatsoever Jason. I saw a debut of an NBA player. That reminded me of David. Jacoby in the last dance. He's Judd Bush Ler. That's you David. What are your thoughts? I think I'm gonNA move onto some actual content for our guests. Rusty larue is coming up. I this is again is as we just came off Michael Jordan sort of defining moment with win over the jazz. There's something that's very important me. And that is what he was listening to. Before the final game in the back of the bus with the headphones on very proud he had an early hotels about cutting that seed. Michael had to Kenny. Lattimore Hook up before anybody. I still don't know who Kenny Lattimore is. I know Michael Relaxing. Rnd Oh gee I'm supposed to be the music guy so I'm telling myself here but you is using in this by the way our editors specifically I think it was Devon Cannon Who saw that footage heard Michael? Andy Thompson's voice in Andy Thompson is the godfather of all this. Because this whole thing was his idea to embed cameras so shutouts Andy Thompson. His voice is the one off camera. Saying what are you listening to? Michael's like With the big nine hundred ninety eight headphones and dismantle the non skip kind. Remember those wow. Kate came walk too fast. Can Run it on So Devon figured out by the he went back to Kenny. Lattimore new album in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight then matched up like Michael was mumbling words and he tried to like lip. Read and see what the words words then. He looked at the lyrics from Kenny songs. And then he put the possible against Michael. Walking down the hall and did the beach permitted with Michael Bobbing Michael's head and came to the conclusion. That Michael was listening to days like this and that was true. So that's the level of detail that that the tone just like. Let's let's choose a Kanye lattimore song because Michael said he's listening to Kenny Lattimore. I saw the rough cut of that and didn't know that that work had got into it and this was. We were in full quarantine. So I'm seeing this like on a link A non leaked wink. I should say by the way I hear the beginning of that. I on like what is this. What did they chew? Because I didn't get? We have songs that I've put in a system like this is commercial music score and that was neither and then I was like wait a second. This sounds like nineties and B. I think that's Kenny. Lattimore and it was and it. I knew it would be days like this like a kind of work lyrically just it fit the mood of him and Michael looks like he's going into play a preseason game when he shooting around in those low cut black Jays with the with the White Sox crispy And says don't look my feet look at the ball going through the hoop So it just works and that that's the level of detail that that everyone on that team our team. I could not be more proud of them. That's a perfect example of it would've been easy just to throw any song in underneath especially under the conditions were working like get it out as fast as possible now. The amount of like detective work the cat to go into figuring out what was in that those headphones is not like we're texting. Michael and say. Hey what were you listening to figure it out? GotTa means but they. They did it. That would've been such a move. Hey Michael What were you listening to? We would've never got this documentary. If are sending him messages like that. What ABOUT THE ATMOSPHERE IN UTAH? You guys made it really apparent that you wanted to focus on those not facing one another in the last couple of episodes but also just the the really tough atmosphere and environment that was planned against the Utah. Jazz difficult passionate ferocious man like that. That was I didn't realize there's certain places in the NBA that are notorious places to play and and only recently have we seen some incidents that happen Utah and their fans getting a little bit rowdy and and being and and whatnot. I didn't realize back then that it was like that's the point where some of the players weren't bringing their families to these games. You saw a morning bring. The family has been like In jail and you know better than than neighboring your family absolutely cannot bring your family. Yeah because they had had incidents With players wise being yelled at and and just being subjected to some behavior that they didn't want to subject themselves to oh it was hostile man and especially these were fantastic teams And they came close the year before and they had a better team that next year. I don't know what the betting odds were going into the finals that year but but Utah should have been favored. They swept the season series with them. That was the only team in the entire. Nba The Bulls didn't beat that year S and you saw what happened in episode and the end of episode four. They squandered like a twenty three point lead and lost that game now. They win that game then. They split the season series and they have one more win than is I think. I think they both had sixty to win right then. These game one is in Chicago Lead back crazy last game of the first avenue the season before the all break in the end of episode fourth. A Win that game. It's a seven game series. Was Chicago Having Home Court and who knows what would have happened. It worked out the right way. I'm sure none of the Bulls would take it back but at the time. I'm sure they. Dama wish they had home court because they had to get on a plane right after they had that hard-fought series against you guys but the Pacers Michael Jordan always talks a lot of trash and it's always conflict but it's is always sort of like a direct. He's sort of sniper with his trash talk not a shotgun and there was something that he said during this episode that I want to get some more insight from you is the bite where someone's talk about how hard it is to push around and he says. `I shack by shack like I said I show. What does that mean to you from his mouth? He is very reluctant to speak of himself. In superlative terms. You don't have to say I am more imposing than even Shaquille O'Neal which is what he meant by that. I ain't shack is you're dealing with a different beast than Shaquille O'Neal who is maybe the most dominant player of his generation. I'm taking not an ounce away from Hilo Neil because I think that that he's underrated when we talk about best ever conversations and you WanNa talk statistics and all that. I think that that Jack doesn't get involved in these conversations enough so shout out to him. Michael saying I ain't shack three times is you're dealing with something completely different when you're dealing with me. I'm not Shaquille O'Neal so yeah. Maybe he could push them around physically. But you're dealing with something mentally and spiritually that has on another plane than Shaquille O'Neal so Jason. I'm looking at twitter right now. And this reminds me of something earlier in this amazing serious. Congratulations I hope you gotTa Taylor or to some new suits. Because you've got to get a lot of awards about Dennis Rodman earlier taking a vacation during the season today. It's about during the finals. Dennis Rodman Mrs Practice so he can go wrestle against Hulk Hogan in n w all with everywhere more insight to this. Let's be journalists about this with with Hogan with home we're told Kogen correction in. W all like. He missed practice during the finals. Yes what about that event? Surprise you when you talk to people that were involved that they expect that it wasn't anything unexpected that they were so nonchalant. They allowed this to happen and they weren't worried about what was going to happen. I'm sure it was frustrating. You could sense an fills tone of voice. Yeah but I think that was more frustrated that he had to answer the questions. He said it's important to you is an issue for you. Not For us. But the amount of trust that they had gained it goes back to that the Indian drill when he came back from vacation. Knew this guy was gonNA show up. They knew the one it was his turn to run from the back of that line to the front of the line. He was going to last them four times before they got a chance to catch up with him so whatever he was GonNa do he. Was We talk a couple of weeks ago about the kid? Who Goes Crazy until dinnertime? But he's owned by dinner and he washes get but he's a wild man during the day. That was Dennis so I think the most surprising quarter when you tell people when I remind my brothers and my friends like Dennis Rodman left after game three to go wrestle in Detroit and this was not. This was not in between series. This was during the finals. He went to do this and it's not like he couldn't have twisted an ankle. It's not like a rate lying top ropes. And he's hitting us with a chair. Who knows what could happen. Especially with that crowd who knows who could hop over the fence and do something. So the Amana Rope. They gave him speaks volumes about Dennis. Rodman that they weren't concerned they kind of rolled their eyes and thought it was funny but no one thought. Oh my God. This guy's off the reservation when we're GONNA lose the finals. Because he's a key cog in the machine it was like now. Well Dennis Smith practice and you could see. The film was joking around that he bought. He brought fame and reputation upon the team and beat him up before the practice. But that was it just like the kid that you roll your eyes and you know. He's GonNa Misbehave but you also know he's going to be the first one in line when the chips are down and one of the things I love so much about this documentary and Lee reliving all these moments as we remember them as singular moments but they forget the context in one of those moments is the shot when games on the line game six championships online and he pushes off Brian Russell now what. This documentary does such a good job of showing us is the lay up in the possession that preceded that then the defensive steel outsmarting Stockton Malone in the defensive possession right before that and then the shot itself like that so much but I also love the fact that to this day Michael Jordan will not admit that with his left hand on the right but she could Russell. He's ushered him along down the lane. What do you think about that particular push off? I think that that his momentum was absolutely going that way. I don't think that he took him and pushed Brian Russell across the lane. I think that he knew said in episode nine. He plays on the balls of his feet and he knows how Brian Plays Defense and he knows that if he jukes and then he's GonNa go that way. I agree with Bob Costas. When he says that it was like a maitre d' showing someone to their table. If you a low angle. Nice video was not filmed. The low angle shot the Slo Mo shot. His hand is clearly on Brian's body but I don't think there's any pressure being exerted to push him off regardless. I WanNa go back to what you said because I think that's the most incredible forty two seconds in the history of the NBA. And I think that what doesn't get enough credit. Reminded me of that high off the glass layup that he had against. Georgetown in eighty two. Which I think also doesn't get enough credit in the waning seconds of the game which we showed in episode one that lay-up when they were down by three to bring it to within one was not a. GimMe and not at all neum where the ball was going and what was going to happen when the ball got there. Everybody knew that ball was going to Michael and he was going to if he got in the right wing. Going to pull up and shoot or he's going to drive to the hoop so two dribbles and he's driving to the hoop and he had to go over like two or three two and a half guys high off the glass if he misses the shot. Where Evan and if we're in game seven. I don't think the Bulls win the title. I think they were out of gas and I think he knew that at that moment to so this. Is it so you WanNa talk about clutch jeans and clutch performance from the time that that ball was inbounded? When they're down by three no other bulls touched the ball for the no audible. Touched the basketball for the rest of the game in on the title so to me. It was the perfect book in that in one thousand nine hundred eighty five. He comes into the League is a rookie. And he's got no other help on that team and he has to win these games by himself and then he had to learn how to play with his teammates and they want title after title. Once you learn how to play with an assistant but still be the star. He gets all the way to the end of his bulls career and was happening. He's by himself again and he has to win the game by himself against so the perfect. It's if you if you wrote this script. He laughed out of every Hollywood office. But but it happened. This hirsch me Jason. Because early nineties as a Pistons Fan we had to walk off and not acknowledge them that just what rivals do late nineties. I was a member of the Pacers in ninety eight. He made a game. Winning shot against Byron Russell would did Air Jordan have to say about that. Play a ninety eight against brass the game when it gets Byron Russell to walk off for for the six ship. Well you saw what he said. I mean to to hear him break down I I. I've that's another one of those questions I've always wanted to ask. He broke it down He. He knew he could see the entire floor and he knew that that he needed to get Brian on the balls of his feet And he was either GonNa Djugum and pull up or he was actually going to go to the bucket and you know only Michael knows exactly what his game plan was there. I think it was pretty much Improvise off its office head. When I was more interested in and we asked in the dock is is the perspective of the guys. Were on the floor with him. Because you know we've talked to a lot of players who said that that the there's the temptation when you're playing with a guy like Michael to watch the game happen because you're so amazed at how he plays and how he moves on the floor. This is high pressured like this is do or die. They have seventeen seconds left. And as BOB says seventeen seconds from game seven championship number six. I thought it was so funny. That pippen and said what are you? What are you thinking that moment? Get the hell out of the way of all time. Only fifteen dream fifty also get the hell out of the way and that and that. Rodman said he wasn't gonNA give the ball of concur. He's not giving it impacts in. He's taken this shot so this was the moment. I think there was palpable. No timeout calls. No-one consider calling a time out and everyone knows exactly what's going to happen. Which is why I love that picture. It's why we use that. Picture zoomed in the faces of those jazz fans. They look like the ball has already gone in the bucket when he releases it because for him to get a clean look is tantamount to the ball going in the basket at that point. So it's IT'S TOUGH FANFARE UTAH FANFARE UTAH fans facing. It's like it's like A. Where's Waldo photo? There's that one little kid with the Bulls Jersey on who's got his hands up as if the shot had already gone in because everybody wants the ball his hand. It's like everybody knew what was going to happen next. It was almost like you lost a game just by him getting off that shot so I love that photo. And that's what something that we wanted to to highlight all along that was in the plants. The thing the thing that is the foundation of this documentary unseen behind the scenes footage gives us a very special insight into that particular shot. Because he's discussing it in the locker room after the shot goes in. And you don't really see him. Gooseneck jumpers the way that he did but he sort of explains it. Jason Sorta telling me about finding that footage and talking to Michael about it and what he meant about that. Yeah well that's this by soft gay. He's he's a save editor. I'd I told you guys about episodes ago and You know we discussed this is another quarantine at it. So I can't be in the room with him and and we discuss what the storyline was from that game in which which stories we want to hit and I gave him a cut of music and Which by the way Jacoby from your use it. Yes I'd recognize back in our grantland days. I did a short film about a fighter named Kid Chocolate Peter Cohen. And His yes briscoe fight and we use the song by Zach Brilliant composer Call vengeance in that and we went now. I recognize that I recognized that axe after this one so I gave all by that that that song and all the stems individuals strings and drums and horns. And all that and said just have fun with this and we had said that you know as the game progressed. Michael was getting more and more tired so you see him starting to come up. Short on those jumpers and We didn't have time to get the full discussion between him and fill in the dock which fill said in the interview that he was reminding Michael to follow through an jumper. 'cause you coming up short because you're not following through your right. You rarely saw Michael do the gooseneck after a shot but he. He did that to to make sure that he held that. Pose that famous pose. Now it's almost as the as the Air Jordan pose. That's the reason why he was doing that so then you see him in his hotel. That's what the grand piano. That's his hotel room. That's a Michael Jordan style hotel room And he's at the piano he's describing to everyone who's around that piano that he had to get fundamental with it pro-nato and and and gooseneck that risk down. So that's the reason why I was. Because he was. He was on his last legs. He was out of gas and he was reminding himself to follow through on that jumper because he'd come up short in the second half so many times. So Jason I pride myself on trying to be an industry taste maker and I- passively aggressively sometimes directly but most of the time subliminally. Because I don't beat down talk about people that are copy my style. You did something in this dot. There may get copied. That's the watch the IPAD for affect your where we got Michael Jordan Laffin and so many iconic means. Do you feel like this is about to be the new wave. It certainly techni maybe not with an IPAD. But it's a technique that others of us before and I've used before is is people watching something and getting their reaction to it The IPAD WITH THE ADVENT OF TECHNOLOGY. That the the IPAD pro shout Apple Address That was you know. Nice and big and people could see that clearly. If you notice that the first time I showed anything to anybody was Dennis Robin with my phone. Was Michael Speaking about the vacation. And that was an effort to get Dennis to focus and I hanging off the walls. No here's Michael Jordan talking about you. I need your full attention. Another feeling between Jacoby his kids and me he does not fill them. Yeah he's he's babysitting working towards So that's where that came from and we always wanted to use it with Michael but but we want to have it. Just look a little bit more professional and not have him squinting at my my tiny little phone If people do use that of course it would be it would be What do they say? Imitation is the highest form of flattery. So sure but I I know this. I don't know if it will be necessary with someone who is not as high profile. Or or you know. I is as Michael. But the the impetus for that was that Michael's been asked every single question and every Ryan May So how can we make this different for him? And how can he stay stimulated engaged and it was basically just kind toy from the play with in a way to bring people into the room without bringing them into the room so of course you want his mom to be there and see how your actual is mom will bring in the IPAD? Same thing goes with Isaiah and with Reggie and with Gary Payton with Jerry Reinsdorf. Let's get his reaction in real time so It was really effective for us. So is we sort of come to a close of this documentary and This particular describing episodes we need more episodes. Espn Connor Shale Libby. Geist write a check we need more episodes. We need eleven through twenty Jason. There's so many more as we could cover with Michael Jordan. You got him on text. I know you do. You got poke on techs. I've Seen David. Falk talking about the DOTS I've seen so many people affiliated with Mj. You have more footage. You have more access. Will we get more fron? Has Better you gotta you gotTa Ask. The p the good folks that we were talking to you about it right now is in official request from to Disney to erase create one bonus episode of the last dance. There's yes if we want to do that. There's plenty of material and do so I I got I got into kid. So that wasn't an official request. But now we're GONNA make sure that that happens so people will listen to this but I do WanNa say like you've done amazing job with this and yeah it's it's really captured. The culture inside of sports outside of sports for the last five weeks during this very interesting time in American history in like do you ever just lie down at night. You can't sleep you look at the ceiling and just sort of consider not. I wouldn't say what you've done but what your you and your team has done for us in what that means to not just American society but to the glow is that ever hit you I think all of us are really proud. that we don't get this thing done in time and we got done at all. There were a lot of we worked our asses off on this thing for two and a half years. It wasn't just the last couple of months. It was two and a half years of people like like Devon and Abi and Nina curse ditch and Chad Beck and Jake Rogalla Matt Maxson and Jillian Moosewood Bench's ASCII and Anzac Ross. I could go on and on and everyone. You didn't name who came in every I mean we were working weekends. We're working holidays. We were working non-stop on this thing to get it done by June second so to to accelerate that I mean normally proud that we were able to come together and get that done and I'm enormously proud that we were able to get dented at all. Frankly because because you know we could have just kinda thrown in the towel and stops when we said that we didn't have an office so the best the highest compliment you can give is is what you guys just said is that It took people's mind off of off of all the awful things that were going on on earth right now and for an hour or two a week Gay People something to look forward to had so many people say like we can't wait for Wednesday night. I zoom with my family. We have a poker game with my boys on Monday night. We just talk about the last dance and we have zoom poker game things like that anytime that I get a message from anybody on instagram or facebook or wherever throughout the world. If they mentioned their family I try to write back to them because they say like my dad and I watched this or I showed this to my daughter or something like that so It brings people together if it connects people a little bit more and this time of disconnection. Then that's the highest possible complement and we're really really proud. We gotTA talk. Well it absolutely has and you know what we're not done with you. We're going to do one. Big Extra bonus recap of this because we know that everybody wants one more episode and ESPN knows it too. So we're GONNA get one more episode of you on this show and we're GONNA get one more episode of the last day. It's on the big screen. Jason Hair you said. I said your name earlier Jason Hare not air. Thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate you taking the time. Not just with US particularly to make this film that we have loved as a species. You have done something big for our species. During one of the strangest times our species ever seen a no it won't sink in. Now you will look back in years and sort of understand. It will resonate with you. What you've done for us. Thank you so much for doing this. This was this was The moment every week that I look forward to talking to you guys so so thank miss it next week. I'M GONNA MISS. Seeing you guys next weekend and Just chopping it up even when it's not about this this series. So can we see him? Person Owner Jalen getting together with you and with Jason and with Michael Jordan every Sunday night. It's just been such a wonderful piece of my life during such an awful time in our guys you like to see a happy in in pain you know what I want to say. The floor island ever do this on our show and I wanna say thank you so much. Jalen doing this with you and Jason is brought me so much joy every single Sunday night you know what Jay we always say at the end of the show that we're not done we're not done we're not done. We are not done because not only will the Jalen Jacoby after show. Continue after this about Michael Jordan. We have other films from ESPN that we will break down in the after. Show thank you so much for watching us. Thank you so much for listening to us. Thank you Jason for joining us. Thank you Michael Jordan for being worthy of such a project. Everyone stay safe your quarantine. We appreciate you taking in this content and we'll be back. Why is that Jalen? Because you gotta get to home schooling and we're not done. We're not done. We're not done kraft.

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Playoff and Bowl Recaps

The Solid Verbal: Living College Football

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Playoff and Bowl Recaps

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Today's show as you know this is sort of in the wake of the college football playoffs. Both games were played it yesterday. So we're going to go through those at the very top of the show. Were also going to recap a bunch of the other bolt action that has been going on since we last spoke and I believe we have five other games on like a bull mini barge that we need to address before we before we part ways here the tug bowl. That sounds weird. That sounds crazy about it but I think we stick with it. Yeah I think we start with the big stuff up front. I mean this is college football. It's all big stuff. Let's start with the playoff and I know you have a number of thoughts. Let's go through all of the action. I believe it's the Gasparilla bowl was where we left off recapping. We had those few games that opening Saturday. But we have not recap since because I've been on the road. You've been busy with the holidays and we wanted some time to breathe but we've got a lot to rifle through lots of rifle through. Let's start at the very top here with number one. Lsu and number four Oklahoma. Dan This is a game. You might remember point. Spread about fourteen points I think when we previewed it was a little bit less than that. We both said why I seen sue whom that seems. He's like a lot of points for a really good really good Oklahoma team with a solid off. It's been of a questionable defense but nonetheless they can they can put up points right well final score here. LSU Sixty Three Oklahoma twenty eight. Yeah you know like like I generally like to avoid just reading the stats. In calling that a game recap right because our fans are smart enough that they can go out talks Gore and read a game cap and you know figure it out on their own. I just have to read some of these stats if late. Let Me Show Berle twenty nine of thirty nine for four ninety three and seven touchdowns seven touchdowns mind you in the first frigging half half the passing touchdown by the way throwing a one on the ground for good measure early in the second half. That's right seven passing touchdowns. He was responsible for eight. Because of the rushing shing touchdown four of his passing touchdowns went to Justin Jefferson who also had a monster game with fourteen grabs for two hundred in twenty seven yards. There were only two. LSU drives that did not result in points one was a punt on their second drive. The other was a missed field. Goal Dan just an incredible offense of showing by Lsu. I don't know if they made it to seven hundred yards of felt like one hundred seventeen million your heart's in this game but but Wow what a showing you somehow sold. LSU's performance Shino and that's the thing that's such go ahead continue but that is such that you could point. It's it was an incredible watch and it almost wasn't surprising. It was surprising that they won by so many in that Oklahoma was just unable to respond with any sort of consistency. They did get what it was seven. All the long past two CD lamb gets around to the three Kennedy Punches in after Lsu. I think it was a three play. Play opening drive with the field would LSU was able to do. It almost reminded me a little bit of an. I don't know how much you watch like when Steph. Curry Curry was at David censure playing like Georgetown Wisconsin. We'd like you knew what was about to happen. You knew that there was very little you could do you just sort of had to hope to weather weather it and do your own thing at the same time and even still even knowing what was you know. There's a storm common. Even still what else let's see was able to do was so unbelievable on a stage like this granted Oklahoma's defense with its own struggles and even with some improvement in the big twelve. AWW obviously personnel lies. They lose a corner to targeting it. Just the depth. Wasn't there the talent wasn't there. Obviously the suspensions hurt as well up front but what Lsu she was able to do and granted they have a Belinda. Cov Award winner. who was largely held in check and it doesn't matter because Thad Moss terrace is Marshall and obviously Justin Jefferson counting off the touchdowns in the end zone as he's scoring them is more than enough and it? It also be relatively easy to overlook the fact that Clyde Edwards layered makes no difference in this game because of a hamstring injury. Chris does a nice job especially in the second half stepping in. It was Davis prices. Well got some carries that didn't matter the depth of what Lsu was able to do. And what you can only do I guess in terms of praying against Joe Borough like this. This is a conversation. We'll have a head of the national championship game. But all you can do to defend offend Joe Borough and this passing attack these receivers and these coordinators is hope for drops hope because plus if you flush him out out of the pocket he might even be better if you try to confuse him. It probably won't work if you give him time and can generate a pass rush that's it that's it for Lsu and your hopes against them. I just I came away so thoroughly impressed with the fact that they just continue to get better the fact that the defense constant pressure on jalen hurts in this Oklahoma offense. which when you have to keep up with Lsu and your defense isn't able to do its job Rob Oklahoma's offense had to had to do something beyond perfection to hang with Lsu and they were underwhelming? That's nowhere near good enough. I'm glad you brought that up so two things first off. You're right the box score only tells part of the story. Yeah it felt like an even bigger mismatch somehow watching the game live five and secondly on the point of the defense the LSU defense continued. I think it's upward trajectory. They've gotten better. Throughout the course of the year and granted. This was a runaway train. This game was a runaway train. But the defense I thought did a superb job here against one of the better offenses is in the country. I sort of have expected a late surge from Oklahoma where they'd come back maybe not to win the game but to try and challenge the point spread because that's what some of us are friends in the desert might care about misrepresent the final score to be up forty nine to fourteen at half has LSU. He was and maintain that intensity maintain. Just that composure That's a hard thing to do. That speaks to character actor that speaks to coaching. That speaks to whatever the Hell Magic Potion Edwards. Ron is found this year because they were really good. And I think that's going to be completely glossed over because of the offensive output. Yes one hundred percent at one point Jalen hurts was four fifteen deep into the first half. As Joe Borough had more touchdown passes than Jalen hurts. Head completions you had that weird segue what was it Sean McDonough and who is who is the analyst for this Games at blackledge. Judge Todd Blackledge Yakking. About like well Jalen hurts is a pretty good shot of succeeding the NFL. Thanks to Lamar. Jackson has done in opening doors for dual threats and forming NFL No jalen hurts wasn't doing it against Lsu jail the NFL's harder the NFL's harder than Lsu. That weird sort of aside in the game and obviously the incomprehensible incomprehensively tragic elements Maui and Harley mccord's winger the LSU offensive coordinator's daughter-in-law in on that plane crash. And you know this is not. I'm not positioning this. As like overcoming the adversity of what Stephen Singer did it's just I can't imagine the emotion going going through him that the fact that he was even able to be in the stadium is proving. I can't I can't even wrap my head around how awful everything you know as a a story happening on the same day I just so so awful style is tough that was signing an incredible story with Lsu moving onto the national championship camping chip putting You know punctuation on just an incredible season but man the clouds over. LSU's Day were crazy. Thoughts out to the end Springer Fan. Yeah that's tough one to hear that news shortly before kick-off on her way to the game. LS which is yes just brutal but LSU does win in resounding resounding fashion sixty three to twenty eight in your first playoff semifinal. Obviously set a whole bunch of peachable records winning that football game game so with that being said LSU punched its ticket. They are installed. I believe early as a five or five and a half point point favorite over the Clemson. Tigers `wow clemson will be going back to the national championship game to defend their title. They won semi final number. Two to out at the Fiesta Bowl by twenty nine to twenty three margin. This is a fun game through and through Ohio state jumps out to an early sixteen to nothing lead and I thought looked really really good. Felt like they had a good handle on this game. Yeah but nonetheless clemson comes back. They make sixteen fourteen at half goes to twenty one sixteen. I believe midway through the third quarter back back and forth the rest of the way clemson scores with about two minutes left to go up. Twenty nine twenty. Three and Ohio state had a shot. Then they really really truly had a shot to win it. But Chris Alavi breaks off his room I think lava came back to he thought fields was scrambling so he tried to to peel back to help block. Justin Justin fields is looking for the Post Nolan. Turner was looking for the interception and the end of the game effectively. He falls in the ball in the end zone and Clemson marches on Dan outstanding. Game all around. What are your thoughts here? How do you feel so first of all? Let's start with you. Talk About Ohio state going sixteen nothing with an asterisk in that it felt like it was thirty one. Nothing it did. It felt like you have incredible play from JK Dobbins Dobbins with was damn near seventy yard was on the first play of a drive. Right a seventy yard touchdown run and it it sort of underscored the element of JK AK Dobbins. Where I was trying to think about what like a real life comparison would be in trying to figure out how to deal with Jacob Dobbins in the open field and all I could come back with was like if there were a runaway jukebox? Coming down a hill at you and you somehow had to tackle it and stop it in dead in its tracks I just. JK Okay Dobbins. Is that incredible of a player and the explosive the explosive plays in this game came to define the outcome along with some other things so Ohio a high state you know he has the drop. Jacob says the drop on a screen he has the past that ultimately hits the ground That looked like it was in the immediate aftermath touchdown but ruled an incomplete. Pass I I'm sure. Ohio state fans with all of their emotions saw that and said even with how good they've been a great. They've been how good good they've been in the second. Half of games against Wisconsin both times really pouring it on and Clemson's a different animal that you see those missed opportunities and I remember you know having the same emotion with Oregon Both against the National Championship game early on with missed opportunities even Auburn this season. You're like I understand that. They have the lead but they need every every ounce they need nose to tail success against a team like Clemson that you can't leave points like that on the field. And so I imagine the trepidation and fear in the hearts parts of Ohio state fans at that point even still even with the momentum if you believe in it changing run from Trevor Lawrence before the half another seventy yard run which just just incredible incredible even with that even with travesty. That was a long scream past the third quarter. Yes even even with that even with. What's his name Sean Wade getting ojected for an no-ho state or Clemson fan will be happy no matter how anybody discussing gusts this targeting penalty and injection. Even with that which I felt was sort of a letter call but not a spirit call if that makes any sense as Trevor Lawrence was sort of ducking his head Ed and I didn't feel like wait. was launching himself maliciously. In the way that like a whole Oklahoma's corner was injected for that For the hit he had on Clyde Edwards Blair even with that even with the fumble return for a touchdown that's called back and got it Kinda looked like a cat and we're going to have to talk about that when we were more detail even with that even with Clemson driving the field like they did for that it was a go ahead touchdown. With what a couple of minutes left in the game even even with all of that. I'm not saying going against Ohio state but even having to overcome a a number of things that said Ohio state back from where they thought they should be the house. It was in this game. You know how it was was had the opportunity you had the ball in their hands. You mentioned the play at the end of the game the interception but I thought it was just a remarkable comeback from clemson going going down like they did and coming out as listless just. The passing game seemed off. They really didn't seem to be getting Travis T. N. involved T Higgins leaves for a wide stretch of this game even with all of that for for Clemson to come back like they did for Ohio state to adjust like they did. Even though the second half wasn't great offensively for the Buckeyes I thought thought it was just an unbelievable watch gravy show perspective a great game and especially given the fact that so many of these semi finals have not been competitive. This one did not all fit that mold to things. Yeah two things that jumped out at me. State would just nine points in four trips to the red zone tone. Yeah that's what I'm talking about. Okay that's that's a you can't do it against these excellent just an aunt and be. I thought Ohio last eight defense was really good for the most part. It seemed like Clemson responders were having difficulty for the majority of the game getting open but there were a couple of big plays plays that were killer credit to our friends over at eleven warriors for these stats. Listen to him. Arrive Passes of more than twenty yards. Four runs of more than ten yards and three touchdowns three touchdowns of thirty or more yards. You'll remember going to the season when Ryan Day took over one of the the things they were trying to fix on defense they gave up way too. Many explosion plays a year ago and that seemed to be fixed for the majority of the season until last night last night clemson was able to take advantage. Some of those big explosion plays and I think that was alternately. What ended up making the difference here? Let's go back to that that controversial call late in the third quarter. So if you didn't see it I'm sure you can find it on Youtube or somewhere out there in the interwebs but Justin Ross for Clemson up appears appears to catch a ball and fumble at. That's how it was ruled on the field lead to a scoop and score for Ohio state but then they took another look at it they overturned it saying that he did not complete the process of the catch. I I don't know like I was trying to listen to the explanation explanation from the TV ref. I forget his right and he was basically saying that. Look a lot of these calls are bang. Bang they're gonNA look so much different in slow motion than real time. I'm an which is true. Which is it thank you captain? Obvious I get that. Yeah that's sort of the point right. You can't really use that logic when every other review literally every every other review throughout the course of this game every game relies heavily on slow-motion right so I'm with John. Legend in his angry tweets on this this one Dan what did he say. He said he took three steps with the ball. He took three snack. You said it would seem like that constitutes possession and it should have been ruled a scoop and score for Ohio state nonetheless the drive ends with the Clinton punt on the ensuing possession. Ohio state gets back. Act they throw a pick and just another one of those things that could have gone. Ohio states way didn't Clemson was ultimately able to capitalize in all the import ways and they march onto the championship game. We probably need to have a a sub when we break off. Show maybe about Isaiah Simmons by the way. Oh Oh yeah everywhere he lined up for Clemson's defense and granted. I just didn't watch lot of Clemson this year. I watched Clemson while games were close. But I'm not watching you know full. Oh half of garbage time against you know. Wake or Boston College so you know. He doesn't really get to display what he does against great teams when Clemson just plays in a conference without that many great teams what he was able to do playing center field playing against slot. dudes filling run fits whatever. He is an incredible incredible player. I was watching this game with My cousin and close friend both of whom were less familiar with. Isaiah Simmons Body of Work Shar and I was just pointing out that add as the giants fan in the room or one of two giants fans in the room. Yeah Isaiah Simmons would fit real. Nice where would he fit real nice to just about anywhere. You could play him pretty much anywhere you want at all three levels of the defense and in this game you had the interception you could see him out there as a nickel corner corner. He was playing safety linebacker. AUSE hand on the ground a couple of times. So he's he's versatile modern defender. WHO's GonNa go very high in the draft and we'll no doubt be a terror error for Lsu trying to game plan around him? And I don't know how much it matters because the Lsu offense is so good but that is a topic for another day. Even on those long Ohio Estate Runs it was Isaiah Simmons passing the Clemson. DB's fast dudes passing them in the open field. Yeah hopelessly trying to catch shake dobbins. Who happens to be just another another ten yards he catches dobbins? Of course Chad Smith has a monster game to linebacking corps for Clemson in general was terrific. And you know you hear coaches ahead of games like this come down to who wins the turnover battle we gotta generate takeaways Blah Blah Blah. All true all importance. The chunk plays I feel like decided this for better and work for better and for worse. Justin Fields Downfield was fine. He didn't use his legs a lot but when he did a couple couple times it worked out really well but it was Chris Alavi. It was Austin Mac was Caja held. Not really getting down Downfield to open up the offense. What's that ultimately? I think was a pretty huge factor for Ohio state. Not Pouring it on in the second half they end with just that that late touchdown in the fourth quarter so A A really incredible watch and I just I came away needing to come down at midnight eastern when this game ended and just needed to take a few breaths I just needed needed needed a second. Okay all right all right. It's over now. We get an all tiger national championship. I like the Tigers here so yeah. LSU minus five against Clemson. That's how it looks right now in Your College Football Playoff National Championship game. Clemson takes advantage of big plays Ohio state had it. They they had it. They had opportunities but they were not now to capitalize themselves by the way I mentioned cleavage against Ohio states receivers preventing downfield field activity. CLEMSON's receivers terrific receivers t higgins goes out and get open and Russ. They couldn't get open. They couldn't get going downfield either. They relied on those two basically huge huge plays from Trevor Lawrence and Travis. CDN On a screen and Lawrence on the ground. And I thought Trevor Lawrence by the way and we see a lot of these offenses that are built around the threat of a quarterback. Run just feels. Didn't keep it as much. I think he had thirteen or fourteen carries ultimately but that includes sacks what Trevor Lawrence was able to do on the ground grounds. Getting you know getting eight yards on first and ten whatever it is. It was a breath of fresh air. Sometimes we see some times quarterbacks tighten up or told not to run it or choose not not to keep it when they probably should trevor Lawrence just giving everything for this game along with Justin feels by to see what he was able to do to propel team not just with his arm but with his legs was damn damn. Wow He's good he's also he's going to get another crack at a national championship. That game will be played on January Ebba Thirteenth. Something like that a couple of weeks away. We will preview that game in the next couple of shows elsewhere if we could travel back in time for a second do better Buddha a bunch of ballgames here that we want to leaf through give you results and instant isn't feedback. We won't go into it with the same level of depth. Obviously but what's the bad boy mowers gas puck bullpen gasparilla. Yeah cf the F.. Forty Eight Marshall Twenty Five. I don't have thoughts. We looked like a mismatch turned out. It was a mismatch. Yeah it was a really nice performance performance from from Dylan. Gabriel something. We've come to expect. They were good on the ground. It was a complete offense performance Marlon Williams was really nice through the air. I rifled through this game very quickly but I had. I think this was forty one. Or this was my most confident outcome and it came true so nice nice Double digit cap including postseason to a somewhat impressive season especially given the promise of Dylan. Gabriel moving forward in these so-fi Hawaii Bowl Hawaii thirty eight. Byu thirty four coal McDonald four touchdowns downs nice showing on Christmas Eve. Had One of those touchdown passes with about a minute left to grab the win so nice hometown triumph for the Hawaii squad. In Hawaii's fifteenth game of the season. Yeah Nick role which has done a wonderful job in Honolulu with Hawaii. Coal McDonald continues to impress a fun. Game Fun back and forth loved watching what I saw quickly. All right get get ready for the independence bowl. Your final here was Louisiana Tech Fourteen. Miami Zero Goose Egg Neil Nada Nahta. Yeah Casey needed any confirmation. That Miami just wanted to get this whole thing over with Dan. Yeah GimMe Gimme the drive charts so well before I go into the drive chart. Just one Danino was summarily said. Yeah we're good. We're good after you're the the phrasing that has been in us. In a couple of different places of sometimes mutually agreed to part ways sometimes will not be retained. But there's something very a funny if I can use that word about being relieved of his duties as if he's being asked to give his badge in detectives right please give It was a nightmare. A nightmare offense for Miami which is nothing really new given how the canes finished out the year and I guess a nice enough performance on defense from Miami Shut Quarter Min. I think started his fifty second game for Miami. I see a number of the guys Greg Russo had been very good for Miami this year. You know to give that sort of effort in this game and to come away with nothing So I guess good for Louisiana. got a tech good good for low tech but back to nose thing. You'll remember. That was a big deal when you're hired him that was like wow they got Dan Enos nice higher hire has not worked out to say the lens out. Miami doesn't have to know turns out so this was I was watching the pre-game pregame stuff going into this game. Because I'm not far from Miami This was what Miami was able to do on national TV with. I don't think any other games going against it. You you ready tie. I'm ready please. Punt punt punt fumble punts punt really fumble fumble punts interception perception punt interception and mercifully and sees uh-huh. Yeah I'll take the ten wins good for them. Well attack got to ten wins all right quickly and bowl pit. Thirty four eastern in Michigan thirty. Nobody puts can't pick it in the corner. Dan I mean eastern Michigan Police SORTA dead in the corner for most of this game. They sort of did pit needed. A twenty five of yard touchdown pass with just forty seven seconds left to grab the lead in that sweet sweet quickly bowl trophy Dan but this was a little bit closer than I expected. Same aimed this was such a strange season for Pitt by the way. Yeah they have. It's what Maurice French is. Probably one of the great underrated receivers in the country. And that's because the offense offense wasn't that good this year he was the bright spot as much as you think. Can you pick it as plucky. Because of what he did a couple of years ago. Moore's French the story and that's French to us by the way that is French two fs elsewhere in the holiday bowl. I didn't watch any of this game. Oh I did Iowa forty nine. USC Twenty Four. So I I need D- I need sort of your breakdown here but it looks like it was close for three quarters and then suddenly I refresh my app and I was like wait. What they scored forty nine? Yeah so dropped. Basically fifty two of those touchdowns one was on a long kick return from Isamu. Amir Smith Marsad. Another was on a pick six late in the game so Iowa I was offense only scored thirty five. which if you do you do some sort of translation that's fifty points? Prior thirty thirty five is the equivalent of fifty for the Twenty Nineteen Iowa offense. They run the ball that well and it didn't matter it as much as you had struggled this year stopping the run. The the fact that you get outgunned by Iowa when you have Michael Pittman Tyler. Vons Amman. Raw Saint Brown Drake London. All of these guys in an air raid with retaining. Graham Harrell is wild is wild and USC relieved clancy Pendergast and John Baxter. The defense coordinator and special teams coordinator cordinator of their of their duties. Shortly after this game but Kim Slav is goes down in the third quarter which certainly affected things. Matt Fink was largely ineffective Luckily the injury to slow this I think is pretty minor. I've just a sprain. They were worried it could have been something a lot worse but the story here was really. Ism for for Iowa a just with the ball in his hands he made plays. He gets scores a touchdown through the air and in the return game and was the offense force in this game and they'd Stanley pretty good game. But Yeah I was scoring thirty. Five is against a ranked team. No less is an accomplishment. Gray finish out the season for Iowa as they get to their tenth. It's a nine and three season. I'm really big on record. Is What you do in twelve games but really really strong finish to the season Frye who they'd be maybe Minnesota near the end of the air. Yup Yup they beat are fighting ally near the end of the year and so to finish out beating. USC on the West Coast Nice feather in their cap in the Texas bowl. The best eight eight and five team in the country went down fourteen. Two NIL early ahead. Some am folks tweeting at me and despair but fear not. They're not the best eight and five team in the country. They stayed the course kept their composure. Kept Cuba Hubbard from killing him which is essential again accomplishment and the scored twenty four consecutive points. He ended up winning twenty four to twenty one. That's Texas am over Oklahoma State indetectable. Yeah this was all it was good bad caland in this game struggled to throw the ball consistently against Oklahoma state but ran the ball really well. Had that was almost a seventy yard touchdown run. I believe on a keeper and the defense offense for a and I'm really stepped up after going down fourteen. Nothing really tightened up against Oklahoma state. Who Starts Drew Brown in this game? Backup quarterback Spencer Sanders. I think saw some time time. You had a couple of carries but really didn't affect the passing game at all and you know the youth of tax defense impressive. I just saw what Jay Sean Corbin is transferring to Florida. The state after having to sit out most of the year with an injury but Yeah am next year. I don't know what their schedule looks. Like I don't know who they have consecutively to end the season but Kellerman should be starting once again. I don't think I don't know what their ceiling is in the SEC. With Callan Mons being counted on too who throw passes for four quarters but a gutsy effort from on. Am as you know. They beat an old big twelve zero in the military bowl UNC. We fifty five temple thirteen man Carolina. Jerry Carolina just drilled them. Yeah Rod Carey keeps on carrying yeah. Carolina was up twenty me to six at half and somehow it only got worse from there a really nice game from Sam Howell. Who we've loved all year? MOSO too ridiculous touchdown catches for for Das- newsom. I don't know if you saw those. I didn't need one that he bobbled and somehow got a foot down. In the back corner of the endzone another he caught in the back corner the other end zone with two guys draped all over 'em beautiful throw from Sam. How again your final here? Fifty five to thirteen a really nice capper due to a surprise season for UNC. Didn't things get out of hand against Duke last year for Temple in their ballgame as well and that kind of pledge. Daniel Jones getting trapped apte in the top ten. I think among other things that have helped yes sure so yes. Things got out of hand pretty quickly in the third quarter and it was a complete effort. It wasn't just North Carolina and Sam. Jalan Offense Defensive Really Nice job stepping up granted against temple offense. It's been pretty awful all season long but nice momentum for the Tar hills going into the offseason all right so we all know how a VPN protects your privacy and security online. I mean we know the deal there. We've talked about it before. Yes yes but I didn't know this until recently and it's taken my TV watching game to the next level you can use a VPN unlock movies and shows that are only available in other countries. So yeah you can use express. VPN To binge on like doctor who on the UK net flicks okay. It's very sipple. You GotTa do is fire up the APP it changes your location to the UK. You refreshing Netflix. 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I can't say it's a great way to go into the off season but at least they didn't lose to wake in New York. I guess yes they did not lose to wake okay. We had in the cheese. It Bowl Air Force thirty-one Wazoo twenty-one air force through through for thirty yards pick. They also rushed for three hundred seventy one yards and four touchdowns Dan they had twenty seven more minutes of possession in this one. I think we both picked air force in we. I definitely did so. They finish ten to on the regular season. Get their eleventh against Wazoo. This was a rough watch. Just if you wanted entertainment because Watson Washington State with throw the ball pretty well and then get inside the five yard line and just struggle struggle on short charge. You know turnovers were an issue. I got and all that aside Washington state with what three weeks to prepare for air forces option. What they put on? The field was nowhere near acceptable. What they what they they just? They looked like they were lining up wrong. They couldn't tackle they couldn't figure out how to get guys in the area of the option they just air force ran all over them. It was what Rams Berg Yeah I watched this after the fact that just every time I would look up it was like rhames Berg for eight Rams Berg for six Rensberg for twelve I just. I don't know how you finish. Washing was doing these past few weeks. I don't know I guess yeah. Well Anthony Gore another good game other the other than that fumble. I would say in the red zone. Yeah let's move to the cotton bowl we could. Yeah Penn State Fifty Three Memphis thirty nine. So Penn instate hired Kirk Shera to be their new offensive coordinator. They hired him away from Minnesota. I think in light of this game job number one is going to be Sean Clifford. I don't know if he's good or not. I felt better about him at the start of the year that I think I did did at the end of the year. But you know there's somebody behind a metal push them in the fall. Maybe we'll let us. I don't know Oh yeah I don't know I don't know how I feel about that. Clifford did not look very good in this game at all. Now in the end it didn't matter because they rushed for almost four hundred yards pretty much ran it at will. They should have run on it more than they did. Journey Brown goes over. Two hundred Noah cain ricky slade. They all look pretty good and brady white had a fantastic four hundred fifty our game in his own business so I thought a lot to be excited about regarding Penn state moving forward and this was a good Memphis team that I've been all about all year. I think you pick Memphis to win this game didn't Ya. I DID PICK MEMPHIS to win this game. I don't know I mean I obviously disley regret it but I figured that with the momentum that they had the confidence they had even losing Mike Norville with how they finished out the air and Penn State. You know being the team that has to face the G. Five school on New Year's six game it's not always a motivational moment for teams. But let me I want to you. You mentioned you started off with some not so positive continuations of Sean Clifford. And you know Penn.. State's defense I suppose you know via the Memphis offense and success that they had through the air. Penn state did a good job. Bending but not heartbreaking whoever the Hell Memphis Kicker Holy Hell. How does Memphis have an amazing kicker? Good for them. He's a credible he hits. What's a couple of forty fifty arturs? I think he had what six field goals. Yeah no big no big deal. Nobile Memphis only got in the end zone three times so that was ridiculous. I don't know if the city of Memphis did something to Mike. Parsons but he took it out on this esteem. Michael Parsons finished with fourteen tackles and I know use other moment were memphis tried and end around. He was just there and he just ended the life life. That play like an like very angry. Spurned Assassin Mike. Parsons is an all American linebacker. Mike Parsons is the best player on this team right. Yeah yeah and I can good to play next year. I hope the defense is better built next year in terms of the secondary and they had some definite it lapses this season. WE START AGAINST MINNESOTA INDIANA MEMPHIS And the Penn State Pass rush seemed to come and go throughout the season but whatever the hell the city of Memphis to Mike. Parsons please apologize. Because he just raked complete havoc as total joy to watch And yes penn state on the ground. It was weird and we were texting about this. That Penn state could do whatever they wanted against what seemed like a pretty undersized Memphis fronts who gave the penn state offensive line some fits. It's in pass protection. But my God had penn state push around Memphis upfront and journey brown noah. Cain you're saying like getting twenty yards a rush but they're not always running mm-hmm doesn't fully make sense so hopefully the new offense coordinator puts his own stamp on things and helps develop Sean Clifford as well. Nice performance from Penn state going into the offseason and and finally. Let's go to the Camping World Bowl Notre Dame thirty three Iowa state nine. It will be very interesting to see what Notre Dame does it offense coordinator now because Tommy Rees called Nice game here and defensively Notre Dame's defense pretty much shutdown Iowa stays good state team. I was at the beer distributor grabbing a few adult libation that right up the road here I was at house at the beer distributor. Grab a couple of six packs before the playoff games and I was listening to to hooligans talk about Notre Dame and how Iowa state whose Iowa state and it's always at that moment and I'm sure you've experienced it where it's like I I know more about Iowa state than pretty much anyone on earth right now and I could flex those muscles and make a total myself. Guys worth is pretty legit. I could could make a fool of myself talking about Brock purdy and of course brock over fast I bought my beer once my car. Whatever do whatever's they were right? Turns out they were right. Nice twenty four point win here for Notre Dame yes I. I came away more than anything as well as what Tony Jones played as well. Dell's Chase Klay Pool just was unguardable this game and it was nice seeing book. Go downfield the Notre Dame defense. This is not a bad Iowa state often no. It's not a bad game came. No I say move the ball against pretty much everybody. The Baylor game was pretty awful for the clones but this a legitimate offense brock. Pretty inexperienced quarterback ACA playmaker. Bruce Hall came on Midway. Through the season thought to Chantal Jones was pretty impressive at times this year and for what Notre Dame was doing upfront forcing turnovers. What it was Jeremiah? A WAZOO core Amoah you pronounce it got it got it ochre Jay. Okay Yep just in the face of Iowa State all day long the forced fumbles. It was just. He was Mr Havoc for Notre Dame. So I don't know what the future of Clark Lee holds but a great promotion that that Brian Kelly. Kelly made now a couple of years ago and I know it's Iowa state I know it's what the camping world bowl but really impressive way to finish out the year to maintain focus for for for Notre Dame. I don't know what the they host Clemson next season. I believe. Yeah they go to that game. No now pack podcast staying here. This was this was wall-to-wall Irish so nice. Nice way to finish things out in front of a national TV audience for sure so I think that's it. I think that covers pretty much all the bowl games that were kyw. I also mentioned by the way I tweeted this out. What Memphis was wearing the all grays on a green field? Don't even talk to me about those uniforms and my color blindness blindness. I don't have that color blindness my glasses a lot of the times but I don't have that specific color issue. Whoever said hey you can wear a darkish? Greg is Penn State's Darkish blue on Greenfield should be relieved of their duties. Those those watchable game those Memphis uniforms to me me were virtually invisible set against the backdrop of that Greenfield. Same it was it was a it was a tough watch just visually the and Memphis does not wear those a lot. They have you know whites and blues. Whatever one they're just heinous uniforms I compare them to just awful awful gym class? You know that Heather Gray. Yeah awful awful uniform. No contrast there needs to be some like listen. I know people have a lot. Ladies have a lot a lot of strong opinions about the Oregon uniforms. You can always see. It always differentiate the Oregon players from the other teams players. This was a visual travesty. St Of Game Green though they do wear Greens on a Greenfield. They don't do a lot green on green on the Greenfield. And I know it's happened. But they're bright enough there like an apple green that it's contrasting enough. This the muted greys against the muted green of the field and just contrast. I'm saying players contrasting passing with each other so like if Oregon's wearing green green on a greenfield they're playing it's team wearing white jerseys. I'm far from a uniform traditionalist but this. This can't happen happen anymore. Sorry that was. My old man ran and you felt the same. You agreed. I couldn't see him no. I couldn't see anything. It was ridiculous all right. Well we've got five other Games here that we have not previewed yet. We thought maybe we would rifle through those very quickly. We'd have a bowl barred sound because it's more of a mini bar. She said the tug rival. We we comfortable with that a ham. Yeah sponsors won't drop us for Tugg Bull Okay. I don't think so. Ticket Smarter Birmingham Bowl. This one is on January every second on. ESPN it is ten three Cincinnati. It is six and six Boston. College bearcats are a seven point favorite for Dan. I am going to go cincy twenty-eight confidence points because he's been a mess all season then. They fired their coach. And and they're also going to be without their best player. Jay Dylan Yeah first of all. Let's talk about very briefly Boston College. who finishes the season losing two of three? What if have you had told me? Before the season yeah going to beat Virginia Tech Pitt Syracuse an NC state and fire Steve Adagio because the season was unacceptable. All that would be very confusing to me. Yeah and probably Boston College fans but they finished the season. Losing two of three but did beat pit at Pitt. The offense was largely fine. You know they lose a quarterback halfway through the season and Anthony Brown. Who was pretty good? Jay Dillon was typical really strong. Aj Dylan defense turned woeful Max. Richardson is a stud at linebacker. LINEBACKER play but yeah it was. It was a rough year for Boston. College overall In Cincinnati I think is a good pick. They lose their last two both to Memphis after repeating in the American championship game. They rip off nine straight after that Ohio state just abuse home in but they finished the season defending ending the run really well a nice linebacking core themselves. Just the offense was pretty lacklustre. I still have Cincinnati by about ten here. The gifts sweet Thai okay. You're getting a coin. When you're getting that history of the Bulls Book? You're getting a bucket hat but if you're heading to this game from Boston Cincinnati and you're not used to really strong food in which both the cities have good food. The highlands Bar and grill. Is the James Beard Award Winning Best Restaurant in America okay. That's pretty good saws ause barbecue. I think they have white sauce. which is Alabama thing Kerrigan's Hattie BS. I think has a location if you want some hot chicken Birmingham. I've heard good things about Jack Browns for Burgers. There's and of course our friends over at Druid city brewing. Yeah yeah they're they're in Tuscaloosa but I think you can find druids city. Check the website on tap at a number of places in Birmingham. So so if you don't want to make the move to their brewery Tuscaloosa not far away. Find find where you can get some druid city on tap shoutout to our boys. Dad druid city yeah huge ballers Irene. Rain Chalk murals really a bucket hat though. That's like the best we're doing with this. That's what we're seeing here okay. I don't maybe the gift sweet rules. And there's a bunch of cool stuff in their tax. Axe slayer gator bowl. Also a second also on ESPN. It is Tennessee. At seven. Five at his Indiana at eight and four. Tennessee is a two point favorite here so I sorta box myself in. And I'm stuck putting twenty-five confidence points on this game which was entirely not by choice. I'm not very confident. But twenty five is what it's GonNa be like. Both these teams are good stories for different reasons Indiana's I think been pretty decent all year. Therefore losses were to Ohio state. Michigan State Penn State and Michigan. The problem I have with them is is the teams they beat. And it's really tough to figure out how they compare to Tennessee because sure the best team they be honestly it's either Nebraska Purdue right well Tennessee beating the heavyweights that they beat makes this an easy choice. Then right. I'll wait now now. I'm seeing here. They did not. It'd be Kentucky. Yeah Kentucky Lucky I mean we we have a soft spot for voted in Kentucky. But yeah so it's not terribly different. I'm going to switch my pick to Tennessee. I've gone back and Forth Thousand Times here. You're going to go Tennessee. I'm jumping aboard your tennis. Fans Winners of five straight to end the year definitely some good momentum down the stretch. I think a good job Bob in the coaching department. Down the stretch as well so August Tennessee. I think close game maybe a fun one to watch but twenty five on Tennessee. I guess more specifically a nice improvement job from Jarrett guarantee. No the back half of the season Defense Tennessee did show some fight especially in preventing bigger. Plays Daryl Taylor definitely worth watching for Tennessee. As the VOL's win their final five. It should be noted that John Jennings who is a stuttered receiver is suspended for the first half of this game aim for stomping vanderbilt players face on return. which if you're GONNA be associated with Tennessee and you're going to do something horrible just after Albert Handsworth do not stop? Somebody's face aside from just. You shouldn't do that in the first place. Indiana I think you're right. I mean they lose their final two of three but they did throw the ball well. I think I'm actually going to go with the hoosiers here by five. You troll it out here. Hoosiers not super high confidence but in and the teens the gift suite of the tax slayer ball which by the way tax software avoided at all costs. That's another show. Don't buy turbo tax. Don't give into it money The gift suite includes according to this site. I'm looking at noise cancelling headphones and Bluetooth Speaker inside personalized box. I like that a bad Maui. Jim Sunglasses glasses with fitting. You get custom fitted sunglasses. I'm on board with that fossil. Watch backpack in that Bowl Book and if you are heading to schemes Jacksonville all for good things about maple street for biscuits. There's a new Cuban place called Nineteen Twenty eight which peaked my interest and v Pizza the Letter v Pizza. So and just. Just don't get. Don't get yourself in trouble in Jacksonville. Seems easy to do the famous Idaho Potato Bowl January third also. ESPN got Ohio at six and six got Nevada at seven and five. Ohio is seven and a half point favorites so for what it's worth of all the bowl games. My numbers claimed that this was one of the biggest mismatches that down to who am I to doubt the metrics whom in general. But let's Go Ohio for twenty six confidence points here the Ohio at six and six building the resume against truly awful teams. The bottom of the MAC was horrendous. This here a nice offense. It feels like Nathan work has been there forever Nice running backfield in general for for the Bob Cats The defense for Ohio is the the really awful thing for them in Nevada. Strange year. They finished their their season. Winning three or four including beating San Diego State Somehow Their offense and their defense both pretty bad. I guess they're okay against the run which is important against Ohio Don Peterson is worth watching all mountain. West Talents at defensive end. I Have Ohio here by double digits because you know say that Nevada is truly truly horrible. the gift suite includes a thule achiever ever computer backpack. A Herschel Supply Company hip pack. Which I think is a fancy way of saying fanny pack a Beanie a coin? And if you find yourself in Boise it will probably be be cold. I've spent some time in Boise. Good friend of mine is is from there and lives there goldies for breakfast for sure. The there's a gastro pub called bitter sweet bitter creek. Excuse me I've been to the west side driving for a an ice cream potato in which they carve a fashion it chunk of ice cream. That looks like the innards of a potato. Okay then rub it in cocoa to make it look like a skin pretty good and Burger belly for Burgers. Can you please recite the name of that backpack again. Fool T H ladies and gentlemen. We finally got him on one. What is it? It's Tuli. Is it really it has Tuli. Yes we've finally got long last Osama Dan Unladen. We got him Dan's globe tomato final. Two Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl better we get a missile in this game or something cool please do not give football players missiles January fourth. ESPN two lane at six and six southern miss at seven and five to lay touchdown layered anti. It's through lame shot up. We got two lane lost. Their last three southern miss lost their last two the best team that either either of these guys beat was army. Statistically about the same though two lanes got a much better offense here. I have no idea. I'm going to bite my lip and say to lane for for Gosh Twenty seven points on this. Yeah I mean it's too late at this point so we'll just go to lane twenty seven. What the hell this game should? It'd be very entertaining because both of these defense is give up a ton of big plays Southern miss through the air and delaying just in general it was somewhat disappointing year. I think we had some high hopes for two lane is one of a better G.. Five defense especially with what they brought back up fronts They did run the hell out of the ball like you mentioned and southern miss through it pretty well. They couldn't run. So are you getting a good contrast of styles here. I think should be entertaining. Fort Worth heard good. Things haven't spent a ton of time there I'll go and food in a second but The gift suite includes boots but may not be limited to that. Does One Hundred Fiftieth Anniversary Coin College football anniversary of Beanie and neck pillow. That's nice football. Nine line apparel patriotic. The attic athletic wear okay Fort Worth. I have been yelled at before for writing off Fort Worth as a food town. And you know what I've done some more investigating ask some questions of friends who spent time there. There's new place for biscuits called hot box. Which looks very good? I think it's called Heim H. E. M. for Barbecue. I may seem Heim. I Dunno I Apologize The mispronunciation I'm in your head now in your now you are. Well I'm going to get this one right Shinjuku station for all things. Japanese especially Rahman looks bonkers amazing. Amazing who do you pick your again. I say my pick. I'm going to the two lane digits here now and finally on January the sixth it is the lending tree bowl on. ESPN the Louisiana Raging Cajun's at ten and three the Miami Ohio redhawks walks at eight and five Louisiana Guy. Chuck Martin Yeah. Louisiana is a fourteen point favorite. It's a big number and I think that's because the region Cajun's actually pretty good at a really good season ten and three. They're only three losses came against Mississippi state and APP state twice place. They've got a really efficient rushing attack one of the best in the country. They've got a forty year old up and comer and Billy Napier as her head football coach. He's been rumored for big jobs eventually. Get one of them just not yet. Miami won the MAC over Central Michigan. But for what it's worth Earth you know our friend bill connerly over the SPN now chart tracks something. Called Second Order Wins. Which basically what it tells you whether a team is more lucky than good right and by that measure? Miami's a four win team so let's go raging Cajun's here to the tune of thirty two confidence points the I have them by about seventeen points here and yeah Louisiana. They win six of their final seven. They do lose to APP. State in the Sun Bolts Championship game. They ran the hell out of the the ball. Levi Lewis a quarterback a very fun. Watch if you watch that Sun Belt Championship game. Their defense not great but they were okay against the pass and stopping big plays. Miami's offense Miami. The offense really any Miami's offense mostly dreadful The past defense was pretty good camera Butler a very fun. Watch for Miami Upfront Front but yeah I have Louisiana comfortably This is the lending triple and Lending Tree I'm not going to recommend that service. That doesn't seem like a good thing to do. My sponsor non spotted sponsor sponsor. The gift suite includes personalized noise cancelling headphones and a charging bank. So that's solid. Thanks for that fossil. Watch and a Herschel. Supply Company backpack. I think there's a very solid gift package especially if there's more than that gift sweet If you find yourself in games and mobile yes noble south or Ruby slipper for breakfast. Noble South looks really good squid ink for interesting bar food and dumb waiter for nicer southern From interesting they all strong options and mobile. Yeah all right well well. I think we covered a lot of ground. This show I would agree. I think we covered a lot of ground in this show. So what you have to look forward to in the coming days and weeks we obviously have a bunch of games that we will recap after. We have results that we can read. We do have to preview the national championship attention game. There is some just general college football news which we will get to uncover as soon as we can and then of course. There's the big game which I I believe. Did we firm up the plants. Are we going to be watching this together. We are going to be watching this together. We're going to be watching the championship game together. And then recapping the game on Tuesday morning. We'll drop our normal Tuesday morning. Recap of the National Championship before we effectively head to the real real offseason. When was the last impersonate Jason Show? We did together. It would probably be back in August when we were in DC. I mean that's a live show. I'm saying like the last regular not a fantasy thing show cut. Guess maybe when we went to North Dakota when we went to north over a year ago not Regular show not an ordinary show. We were recapping our our visit there so it's been a while it might have been preseason two thousand eighteen in my apartment but yes albay became a long sweet and go to Gnash championship game. Not Going to New Orleans this year because of some obligations. Yeah it could have been that time. I lost my voice. Oh yeah couldn't remember. You and bill came to my apartment when we did nineties Internet things right. Yes yes you're you're at my apartment So looking forward to doing these the shows will do a twos cruise to finish out the season. And we'll recap everything Some some news row quick title needs plenty. Sounds I did see. Pat Fitzgerald turned rundown an interview with a request from the Carolina Panthers Northwestern mentioned. USC Firing Offense Coordinator Clancy Pendergast and special teams coordinator. John Baxter Baxter. A particularly noted recruiter. Vanderbilt has fired each of their offensive and defensive coordinators Mike Novellas and making some higher. Steve would the to me legendary offensive line coach. He spent much of his career at Oregon. He's retiring after three seasons at cal. Otherwise is I mean we mentioned the Danino staying at Miami. He is out so Miami will be looking. You mentioned Kirk Sh- Chirac Chirac sharakah. who did a terrific job with Minnesota and before that western Michigan with John Fleck? He is in at Penn State as Rookie Ronnie leaves to Take a head coaching job We've talked about Jeff Scott. So he hires Charlie Weis Junior. Fau As lane kiffin leaves to be the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach with some appears some. Promise Kendall Riles riles is at Arkansas. So too I think seemingly pretty strong coordinators in Arkansas for Sam Pittman in Kendall brawls and bury them Marcus Arroyo hired away. Casey done from Oklahoma state. Casey done the longtime receivers coach Co offensive coordinator if you look at the receivers of come through Oklahoma state during his time there. You can't help help. But come away. Impressed he'll be the new offensive coordinator at UNLV for Marcus Arroyo. Otherwise I don't know if there's anything I mean Mike you're sick appears to be the guy to takeover often at offensive coordinator access. You know that Ohio state season is over. That looks like it's all but official Chris. Ashes obviously official at defensive coordinator for Texas assist. I think that's all I have right now. We've had some. We'll do more draft stuff as we get closer that in and mention all the guys that are leaving early and not playing in bowl games. I think we've had a lot of those already ready but I think that's the big stuff here and if I can and I I really really trust me. Believe me. I don't mean to tag this on as like a and also also one more thing but I think it would be unfair not to an sort of didn't feel right not to discuss it. We weren't friends with at S. Joff we didn't we didn't know oh him all that. Well I think we may have met him a couple times national championships and so forth. There was something about his passing tie. That was just devastating to me. The fact the fact that I mean he comma blogger isn't necessarily he was at ESPN news. Reporter I mean most recently he's national reporter. ESPN but he was. He helped to run the old. Sec See blog that when ESPN had the conference blogs thirty four years old on his birthday engaged to be married in the in the spring and just a really out of nowhere health situation. He had pneumonia developed into H. L. H.. And I don't know what it is. I just I feel like we're part of this digital college football weird media world world and hit me and I just I just WANNA say everybody seems to have loved him that had come across him. You see like all the yea reporters that were friends with them wearing the lapel. Flowers at bowl games honor him and his style but everybody could not help but say extraordinarily nice things about him and so in a very strange way I feel like in this world. We lost somebody that was that was pretty significant. So lots out to everybody that was affected and friends with him and close to him. And and Man I just. It was pretty heartbreaking. Stuff the way it all happened so suddenly a shock to see that news on Christmas Eve to say the least and like you said I mean we haven't had an add on the show but To be part of the college football media sphere nanny sense. You you kind of get familiar with these names and twitter handles and interact with people in this day and age and Yeah that was that was incredibly sad news shocking news to say the least and again you you know we hate to have shows with bad news but Two bits of it here in this show first thoughts obviously go out to the pingers and secondly to the Ash offs and offer ends of of ADS. Because that's a tough one to say the least so yeah with that being said we we do appreciate everyone for stopping by by for download them to show for taking part in our weirdness here as a college football podcast. We will be back very very soon. Talk Moore College Football. We've got much to discuss here as the season plods forward just a few games remaining. Dan and I will be back in due time to talk about that championship rampant. Much much more. Daniela enjoy the rest of your stay in Florida. Thank you enjoy the rest of your your New Year's time for that guy over there. Dan Rubenstein conceive myself ty Hildebrand. Thank you so much again for downloading the show. We will talk. y'All soon in the meantime stay solid

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 4) 191230

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 4) 191230

"There's your New Year's theme bollock come and walk because I won't me. Hey Hey I wish the world could see what I'm seeing right now. Moving in that chair back and forth he. I'm almost ready for New Year's dancing. Nobody's watching is all right there well in his particular case outside of the people he doesn't care the one thing that you gotta understand from Oakland California. Sometimes we just dance a little different and I don't see you I don't see you. You write Arco Andy. Yeah see the guys behind the glass over there. I'm just in my own world big weekend for Oakland athletes. Yeah with beast mode back in the bill small back fame mode yes Numbers I mean. We're counting the buffalo okay in Buffalo flow. Yeah that's hard to be good buffalo fame all of you know what kind of going back real quickly move back forward Kind of forgotten. Eli Walked off yesterday. In just like but he's he's a hall of Famer all right. Maybe not the people in New York. I Bel- I don't say allied goes before marshawn Lynch but marshawn Lynch might not go which is on. That's kind of unfair. That's the thing thing about the hall of fame. Let me it's unfair. You know unfair. That's the thing that's unfair about the hall of fame. Because clearly he is hall of Fame Talents. Correct marshawn marshawn. Okay but did he apply them all throughout in Buffalo. He didn't he doesn't have the numbers. Yeah clearly he's as good as anybody. Corey Dillon when he was in Cincinnati then when he went to New England famer when he went to the wing. Li was ball. You WanNa the gatekeepers of the whole. Oh you're a cowboys fan. That's I mean just even baseball like Tony Perez whereas getting nearly later your big red machine. You weren't getting twenty years prior to that then come off Jeff. You wouldn't wanNA see marshawn lynch his his induction speech. Tell me that wouldn't be something just in speech showroom and skittles less than thirty seconds shoutouts alone. Yes Oh no doubt the shoutouts alone is worth it for. That is fine. I'm looking right now at pro football reference according to one of their metrics The average hall of fame running back comes in and a ninety. Nine point. Eight For their metric. He's at forty nine. Point four terms in the hall of Fame Right. Well that that touchdown run versus New Orleans. That's one that is that is the best run I've ever seen in my life. Nhl they tell me entire team and people still get mad about that one because that was when the NFC West Division winner was at seventy nine while he literally caused an earthquake they. The seahawks went seven and nine year won the Division and hosted laying twenty ninth in rushing yards for his career. all-time twenty six and attemps temps five pro bowls one. all-pro yeah May Not be worthy. You know he'll he'll be one of those guys talked about either way. He's had a really entertaining. Haning fun career. Who would you rather tackle Emmett? Smith or Marshawn Lynch. I'm an all day. Marshawn Lynch may be at the pickup truck ground. One time. He gave me though. I'm like Oh what happened. Just undressed me right there on the field man. Wow how never do in buffalo because more sean is is in this. I'll clarify this. He is the back that when you see him. You automatically the first thought is I. Don't WANNA get run over at Bingo and so you're bracing for. I gotTA bring in all of a sudden he gets you on your toes and once he got you on your toes who who will buy. It doesn't have to be this. It doesn't have to be this entirely crazy. Shake your Juke is just gives you inside. I remember talking with guys in the Rams Locker Room real real quick before we get to the Lakers about Lamar Jackson said that like the difference between Lamar Jackson. And all of the other. They're great quarterbacks. Who can run in the NFL? Now is those guys will all be looking to either Juke or get out of bounds or you know evade you in some way. Lamar Jackson will truck you. That's the difference between catches and all these other it catches a small corner. Garnett like marshawn Lynch is like Anquan Boldin to me. I I mean I wish you can put Anquan Boldin in the hall of fame for what he gave. You may not show up in the in the yards or the stats. But what he gave you was all he's in the hall of Barrett and like that and that's a real honor in of itself. No doubt he played with a broken jaw said he was off man. He got knocked out literally against the jets and then came back. The next week wired like Mike Ready to roll like come on up to the case being Los Angeles by the way. Thank you guys actually playing through stuff. Lebron James we thought that was going to be the situation within this week and the Lakers playing Saturday in Portland last night at Staples Center and there had been some concern because of the groin issue that he had been dealing with for about a week leading up to the Christmas Day. Game where he took a knee to the groin? From Patrick Beverley trying to draw charge there have been reports reports from Brian. windhorst Dave McMenamin that the team was really concerned about this getting re aggravated getting worse. If he played on it and some concern concerned that Lebron would end up potentially missing games from this weekend. Maybe multiple games as the season went on the brandon. Miss Either game right played in a back back to back which in and of itself was surprisingly when when I saw that he was playing in Portland on Saturday my My first thought was lousy. Not GonNa play Sun in Dallas. Allison if so seems like the reverse of the way they should handle it because Dallas is the better team and less they were just looking to get them off this losing streak ends up playing in both games which is remarkable six minutes and thirty four made me wonder about the idea of. Is this actually smart. Well if he's healthy look maybe you have to downplay what he said or what happened on Christmas Day. Maybe he wasn't as bad as he led on. Everyone lead on to be but I think he is compromised. Some some but it's obvious he can play through it. You know what I mean so you can be banged up you can be bruised but you can still be out on the floor for your basketball team. Well I say this I think link with Lebron and what I what I see that he didn't have this luxury last year. He can still take games off within games right. That's what Anthony Davis Davis allows him to do. Is that allow. Anthony Davis to go out a bear the scoring load like last night. Go Out and get twenty three read nine and four right but look at what. Lebron James did over the weekend and just those two games scored thirty four points and two nights but the bigger thing is he had twenty nine assists. Right Sixteen on Saturday thirteen on Sunday. That to me tells me that he's just sitting there creating and it's like he we in in football we say plays off. He's taking plays off within the game and just being a facilitator just being out there to set things up for other guys in so he doesn't have to be. The guy has to go out and get thirty at night man. That's what Eddie Davis gives him that luxury. But what's interesting about that. Though is just Lebron really set a standard for himself this season with not taking place off like I mean. He came in looking to establish the tone of this team's going to be incredibly focused. I'm going to be a part of the defensive mentality that Frank Vogel wants to instill like Lebron was playing hard defensively at the beginning of season that we have not seen him do in years. I mean just for for reasons that were understandably. You know he'd been going eight straight finals getting up in age like you know. There's a certain degree of pacing yourself that you need to do. But he was not doing that to begin this year at all. We'll every now and then you got to delegate authority so I I'm with I mean sometimes you have to delegate to eighty delegates other guys. I can't be this attacking scoring weapon every time when you need me so you guys are GonNa have to help me fill that void. When it's time when it's crunch time I will take over? We will be ready. When it's close out time I will be the closer you know what I mean? uh-huh my favorite part of any Lebron. James Game is when it's time for a last shot and that guy doesn't get the ball to him the look on Lebron's face priceless. It's Hilarious hilarious. All my God. I love that stuff but yeah I think being smart about how you play is is is smart for Lebron. It's great for the Lakers. It's going to keep keep him healthy. Keep him active when you need him. Most in June Just a question. I mean Lebron is always compared to Jordan. He's compared to Kobe. Compared to the greats Mhm Am I to assume that Jordan couldn't play like this if you wanted to. He couldn't be more of an assist guy if he wanted to. I mean less of a score or more of a team. I The a key to that is want like do you really want to. I've always said if Kobe had wanted to. He could have been a first ballot hall of Fame Point Guard because he had that level of vision. He had that type of basketball intelligence. And you could see there'd be times where he and POW would be running a two man game that would often setup upshots for other guys with Koby totally in control. I mean he koby had that type of visibility to the level of Lebron. I don't know I mean Iran's one of the Best S. passers game has ever seen this on yeah. Kobe could have been a different type of player if he wanted to. Just because he was talented enough fair to say Kobe Jordan. Better players. Lebron better teammate. Or is that doing a disservice. Yeah I mean I think. He is an easy easy or teammate to play with Kobe and I think Kobe would be the first to say this. I think it was probably easier to play with Jordan. But that being said Lebron's had you know the times throughout his career where he's done the passive aggressive thing. You know either with media or you know over twitter basically would be shots at teammates. That are you know caged you know right deserved or not. It doesn't rub people the right way right and Kobe. The difference was was he would often just be more direct and like in your face with as much as he loved playing with Powell. I mean Kobe would often run POW over with that bus. Then back it up to make sure or he could run it over again so the only thought I had. If you're a guy that could have could have nine thousand assists in your career. Why wouldn't you do that? That's GONNA make everybody better plus you. You know what I mean. Why would you choose not to do that? That's my question yeah. I think some people's Kiss Games are different boat right like you grow in always always been a an assassin in a score. Give me the ball outscore. You can't do it I'll do it whereas Lebron's game. Since he was in high school was about nice passes passes Chris passes behind back. That's what really got a lot of people. We knew he could score. We knew he could dunk. But it was his ability to distribute the ball since he was a young and and make the right basketball talked about after the game yesterday just that this was instilled in Him Lebron at a young age by his you know the equivalent of a little league coach in basketball. Ask Him Ball yeah he said it was because like at the time he was better than most of the players on his team. Kara in an order for them to win. Those guys really needed the help that when they went beyond just scoring from Lebron was there a few years where he would defer to much early. Well that's the one the criticism that's what with one of his rivals. Right skip bayless. We'll talk about all the time. No honestly because the king was ridiculous Kingwood now he's not GonNa take the where you know you mentioned the Mar- Mario Chalmers try. Every time he takes a shot every time this guy takes us. I mean a shot was Lebron on would make the right basketball play and if it if they made the shot it was great job Lebron now if they missed it's the shot it was what is he doing. He doesn't want to lack shot and he was playing in an era where Kobe Bryant always took the shot garland he took every he took but the the crucial shot right. There's only so many guys who can do that I think right now the best clutch game ending shooter in the NBA would have to be Daimler. I want the ball. And then because he's got the onions to basically go to playoff series. Yes it's how many guys don't WanNa take that shot right. That's that's the hardest. Here's the thing though. I don't think Lebron is afraid to take that shot looking for the best shot possible. I mean we. We've seen Lebron make take or at least if nothing else. Take big shots over. His career. Malecki doesn't shy away from I didn't I just. He's such a great playmaker. Yeah and he's always looking for the the best possible shot. There's a difference between that and shying away from it. Hasn't he been over sixty points. Yeah I think he got his highest point total. I think he's a guy that we go out for anyone. I know fifty five for sure because he had that the Celtics Dot Com. Yeah he's lebrons runs highest point total. We'll find that quick. We'll have a computer too. You know right there. I did not have a computer astronomy. He gives you that he will make you work. Oh but I think that the more and more I watch him over the Knicks I would say I just two or three seasons And gone are those Lebron forty point nights right for four five for Lebron ago. Forty or fifty points. I just don't see those coming not regular season. Not because I can't yeah but because I don't think he just it's not in him anymore season. No postseason I'd bet there still guys Braun in the playoffs is a different Gavin correct. He will he will take his game to the next level because it is the playoffs right but right now if you see Lebron putting up forty or fifty yeah you have to wonder if something went wrong really you have to wonder about as he play or why this action take place all right coming up we will pull back the pigskin take a look at some of the action around the NFL. Next we begin with last night's game the NFC in West decided San Fran over Seattle Twenty six twenty one. You had the return of beast mode marshawn Lynch but it was not enough. He did in the end zone. Kirk now he did. That was fun now. Issan twelve love that love Baseman but it ultimately was not enough to Put The seahawks over the niners came right down to the second to last play of the game. The Seattle getting like inches away from a game aim winning touchdown like literally inches. I want this to be the game. The matchup that decides the NFC. I WanNa Watch this again rela. uh-huh yeah you won't see that again. I thought it was so much fun. there's there's animosity on top I gotTa make sure again this correctly So we know now. Currently apparently the San Francisco Forty niners are the one-seat the two seed is the Green Bay. Packers that this weekend the three three seed New Orleans Saints will take on the sixth seeded Minnesota Viking. Yes the four seeded. Eagles will take on the seahawks naked to host a game. which by the way you get off that get off no trust? Let's be. Let's get to go to the playoffs because you WANNA division. You should not automatically. This will never happen again. Host a game right virtue of winning. This should good. This won't win your division your in your plans to team. Who did not win there? Oh right yeah was harder well. It's just that's the way it is like you play the football andy. No but it's interesting match ups right and the crazy thing. Is it just the way the way that way ended it works out this this week that the AFC plays Saturday in NFC plays on Sunday. That just goes to show you that everybody wants to the Sunday matchups a really the ones leaving Minnesota. Yeah I don't believe them. Do you know Seattle was healthy. I would have taken them I think San Francisco. Oh is a very strong contender to come out. And I WANNA see New Orleans San Fran in my opinion that would be fun. You know in in San Francisco. I I WANNA see that one. I want to see part two of that. Okay it'd be a little bit different than the one you want. You want Seattle doors. The third time I've seen it before I've enjoyed trees Garoppolo again. You will not see in the playoffs. The Dallas cowboys despite beating the skins forty seven to sixteen the Eagles won again. They get their hosting off and the cowboys are not out. The future of one Jason Garrett is uncertain and Jerry Jones is going to take time I mean I have anything but I don't have a share of their time with the proper question here is do. I have anything that I would share. Stores Ores my timetable. My Gods in your work that I've done we've done any work for the future all of that out to comment on and share a lot of Johnny Walker. I'm I'm I'm taking it home with me. Where do you WanNa start using that? What my wife? She's like what what do you think about this right now. I don't have information for you honey. so what are you trying to decide. Well don't you know the meeting scheduled for today Jerry and John Years Jerry Jones Stephen Jones have a meeting today Jason Garrett and I think at that time he will be probably relieved of his duties. But you know taking this long. They didn't WanNa do it yesterday. They don't WanNa do it this morning but obviously I like the guy like the man and nothing but respect correct. I think it happened. Why is he getting this respect from an organization that you have to really decide whether to keep him or not? This should be a no brainer Jason geared. Almost like the the what is it the Fourth Jones son. Almost I mean is he. I feel like for him to stick around that long he'd been there that long was handpicked picked after they got rid of wave Jerry's ego. It's not Jason just as ego. But that's always refuses to admit he was wrong. But that's also the question when it comes to the idea of who would replace Jason Garrett. Is he looking for somebody who would be a puppet look carthy is out there. He's gotTa Ring Rivera's out that was about the interview on your wherever he goes on that thing. That thing locked us. He's about to go. But it's Mike McCarthy though willing to be your puppet because there are a lot of people who feel like one of the reasons Jerry Jones NHS stuck with Garrett so long ego you don't WanNa you're wrong but it's also he gets to coach. The cowboys is one of the best if not the best job in the NFL. You want that job right. Everyone wants that job. I'm not I'm not saying McCarthy wouldn't want it necessarily I'm saying does Jerry. Jones wants somebody who might be more more strong willed and say you stay up in the owner's box Jerry actually coach Jerry once they super bowl. Jerry wants to win over the last ten years yeah. That's what I'm saying. I mean he doesn't lose Christopher Chartres all right next patriots upset by the Miami Dolphins seventy four that means to Actually play in the opening round of the playoffs which is unusual for them. They are only three and three Historically in the playoffs or at least in this Belichick Brady era. Yeah they don't have that but go ahead and count them out at area a serious just because they have to play they don't get the by go ahead and count the Patriots out idea. This is how they beat you up but this is the first time in this decade that Tom Brady to me is a part of the problem is usually the guy. That's been the fixer. He's is usually been the reason why you've been great But he hasn't been great as of late he hasn't been great in December and he threw another pick this past weekend. I think it was the pick sex. Wasn't it yeah. Yeah I mean that's you can't do that. It was in the fall to he disliked it. It wasn't good it was it was kind of ugly so he really looked like he. We looked his age but then by definition wouldn't that be one of the reasons you could actually count him out because like you said before he was one of the reasons you never could. Because he was a fixer I think this this loss could actually be good for them. I really do. I mean sometimes losses have a way of galvanizing your football team and helping you fix your problems helping you. You face your problems. Identify your problems and then fixing your problems For me I'm just always one in which I don't like when you mess around with the football gods I think Miami. Amy is done at before and they didn't do it this year. Shout out to Brian Floors. His team played hard. Now they'll have the two picks member they still have the Pittsburgh steeler pixel they'll have pick number for eighteen from the steelers for the Minka Fitzpatrick Trade and then they're also have their own pick which is number five in this draft so Miami Dolphins feel pretty good about where their position debt no doubt out and they pulled out all the stops three guys attempted passes against the I mean. Yeah they they did everything right. You know what good for them. You get rewarded sometimes with your Karma Team that doesn't seem to have good Karma of late or maybe last twenty years. Kirk your raiders. The raiders rated yesterday lose sixteen to fifteen of. They mucked up down the stretch of that game. and You wonder is this the last of Derek Carr in. I got a question for you about about him. Do you know Derek Carr. Okay just tell me what type of guy is he. I'm looking at his numbers. Hold on let me do what he's out. He's twenty nine to forty six three. Three ninety one a touchdown touchdown no picks passer rating ninety seven point three but he lost right well. He say he played well. No I don't think he'll ever say that okay My like my only leafing about Derek Carr and this has been my only criticism About him is that he is such a nice guy. Such a nice. The kid says everything correctly. So we'll say I mean there. He will never throw anybody under the bus. He is just the guy who you want in terms of what to say he's GonNa say at all then what's missing. What's missing is that? There are certain plays within a game that you have to make that he lacks in making and because he's such a guy you almost can't coach him hard because it's like you're it's almost like your kid who like you know they're doing well and they're trying well but they mess disappeared but I know you try and so come over. Give me a hug to coach. Feel Yeah and it's like Oh and I think that's the hard part is that you want to coach him hard but you we know he's trying his best trying to do and that's hard because there are some guys who were just bad right and you're like hey you've got to be like Bruce. Arians is going to coach James Winston Heart Right. I look at James. You keep going to be here but candid after the game like. There's a lot that you you like about name is Winston. And I'm paraphrasing a little bit but not a lot. That's pretty terrible. Yes and that's the same thing with their cars. You like so much. But he's such a good kid like how do you coach him harder. Car had the jump. The net for drew lock. I mean really drew lock. Just beat you in a game. That mattered I mean. How does that inspire call? The raiders. Defense is pretty porous. Yeah well it's it's I would be surprised if you see him with the raiders next year just because it feels like that relationship between him and Gruden has been to transparently gone. The saints finished out their season on a high note. Beating Carolina Forty Two ten in Carolina. They will well They did not however get a first round bye. They will be taking on the Vikings hosting them Without Delvin Cook. I think that's going to be a win for the saints. And they're not a team I would wanNA play in the NF so they scored forty two points and to me the more impressive thing was they really shutdown McCaffrey. I mean in twenty six rushing yards two point nine. I mean look this is the guy. That's a thousand thousand guy right like you said there's only three guys that I've ever done it and he was an afterthought in the game especially running the football also I think the saints are gearing up for a long run in the post. Here's how you know. Just how dialed in and focused and well coached. They are how well they played without. Teddy Bridgewater is a solid backup. He's actually a luxury backup but he's not ideal as your starter and they you know they look different different. They didn't look as explosive with drew brees but they weren't suffering without him and that's where I I think you know that just a team is really really well run and those guys are all on the same page It's it's organizationally the way that they're built Do they have a succession plan yet. I don't know what New Orleans has in place but teddy bridgewater a guy. I think that made himself money this year it gives. He deserves an opportunity to start somewhere a good for him man and you Kinda like that for him but the man this is. Some organizations are just built differently. Yeah yeah and I mean they. They are not a team that I would want face at all You mentioned before Derek Carr being perhaps a little bit too nice for his his own. Good yeah or to you know to Nice for the good of the people around him. The same has been said about clay Helton and there was a lot of evidence to that assertion over over the weekend in the holiday bowl getting that next an interesting cribbage. The flat arid plains of many automobile dashboard. The bobblehead it is most agreeable. And we're not allowed to anything despite having no brain function but when the bobblehead here's how Geico not only saves people money but also gives them access to licensed isn't statements twenty four seven online and over the phone. He'll not even more vigorously because he knows you should switch because yes switching to gyco is a no brainer easy easy public easy. You can get Nash. Still a great fight song even in the face of a very very disappointing holiday bowl. Yeah we got a lot of mileage out of that. got a lot of mileage out of that holiday bowl music memory. Were trying to figure out the best music for our USC to have as their holiday theme we ultimately landed on this because nobody was excited about the holiday bowl to begin with so is a little snarky or you got smashed in the holiday. Yes we in the holiday bowl forty seconds here bowl forty nine. Twenty four to the lower is higher. Yeah Yeah I got one point. Five holiday bowl is is what day is played on Late on the twenty seven. I saw the whole thing is already is changed. It's no no longer. I know the sacred only ball that is always going to be sacred is the Rosebowl yes. That's always one hundred percent and we can't look at it like the Bulls when we were growing up them. They're all specific your teams in his rosebowl aspirations. You really happy to play in the holiday. We'll that's what I mean. It's it's it's the second year bowl no but if you're doing knock on anybody this way you did this year. You have no right to pooh-pooh any bill You know are you really really happy that every parade for the Big Ten Pac Tin Rivalry PAC twelve roberson still. It's still a game. There's always three games that I always love like the the high scoring or just the the nature of the opponents because we don't get them too often that's always to me the holiday bowl. The ALA mobile that played in San Antonio every year where you get to match ups of of a a pack twelve school versus big twelve school. Like you get those types of scoring match ups you get excited about so for me. Yes you're GonNa Ring for the holiday bowl Are you going to watch the sweat suit. That's what I mean. Well I'll tell you this so I know that in my ballgame I did Thir- last Friday You North Carolina In temple the military bowl they got sixty inch television screens from video. That is not bad and I'm saying how do I'd rather have that I and students. I guess maybe the screens are about seven hundred bucks or something like that and then you think about it. Goes those two hundred students you know by Nice little and they pay out now for Bowles but can they give the kids that game with a TV screen part of your bowl. Give you get back in this game. They were in it for a while. They're actually playing pretty well until keyed. Onslow is true freshman quarterback back got hurt And then the bottom fell out on both sides of the ball at the bodies. Hit the floor ugly fast and and USC ended up as a lot of people expected right regardless of the results of this letting go of clancy. Pendergast Defensive Coordinator and John Baxter. Special teams coach coach. For both of those guys it is felt like a long time coming but whoever replaces those guys were and whatever other changes end up on Clay Helton staff half and I suspect there will be others. Frankly there should be others. They need to bring in somebody who is a disciplinarian. Okay like the go-to guy that can be the hard ass on that staff because it's for better or for worse it's never going to be Klay Hilton. Yeah but I would say this before. I answer that question watching coaching again on Friday night for the first time in a long time one thing about USC. I've always said a lot of these guys have great physiques right like they spend time in the weight late room. They work hard they. They're bigger a lot of times. I watched that I won't team and for the first time in a long time. Maybe it's just 'cause it was Iowa. USC got pushed around especially on the defensive front. Yes right like Iowa. It was a particular sequence in the game that I watched it. A really was like wait. Did they ran. A quarterback sneak four times in a row like outside the ten yard line. It wasn't like a third and one. No it was a first intake tape and they ran a quarterback sneak four times and got the ball to the one yard on eventually. Ran It in. But I don't like that just watch. USC Get push back from the ten yard art line. Four straight plays on a quarterback even watching that. Unlike you've been watching the last few years you're ballgame. Yes but not straight straight task. I respect regarding what you do during the season the bowl season to me. Sometimes it's it's Kinda like final final one in a semester. How you did? Yeah and to me. They misclass- throughout the year and they got to the final and they failed the final. You know what you feel like you can do that. I think at least in part when you're not worried about repercussions and the USC has been undisciplined on the field. Habitually will the last few years I say and again like Helton is a great guy and players love to play with. Everyone Loves Klay. He's one of the nicest people I've ever met. Whose real celebre right? But do that with Nick. Saving this I was GonNa say this is not an industry that is built for Nice people which doesn't mean he should change fundamentally who he is. Because I think you can't fake that. Yeah but you need to make sure that you've got the people around you who will play that role if it's not going to be an. Here's what you need to stop recruiting Orange County. Yeah right now man. You recruit recruit recruit kids were football is very very important to them. Yes not where. Their parents have other jobs jobs and businesses. You need to recruit some dogs. They need if you want to get back to being. I don't know why that they just fall out of the dual threat quarterback which is totally different now keating slows. This is you can run up a little bit different but he can. He can run a little bit he can take off but as I'm watching college football now I mean. We saw it with Trevor Lawrence Saturday Washington Washington with Joe Borough who had seven touchdowns and one running touchdown. It's got to be able to move what I'm watching these other teams around college football. Se doesn't give me that same like wow. It was fun while factors not there anymore. All these quarterbacks that hit the transfer portal. I thought that some would hit the west coast or at least one did one went to Seattle. I thought would come here. I thought why why because I thought he was not anymore. That's what I mean. They're not surprised. They're not developing quarterbacks Sam darnold development probably was not because of Clay Hilton. We always say Klay Hilton benefit from having Sam Darnold we always remember. That's how we're going to remember the name Brown because he threw. Max Brown's the wool. Hey Go Alabama. And then after that we already know they enter Sam Darnold and their seasons change. But you mentioned it. Look about all of a quarterback to enter the portal. No one's thinking about us anymore. It's still surprises me. They go to Washington now the hotbed for quarterback transferred. I WANNA go to Oklahoma. Well okay you. You had said before like the idea of dual threat. quarterbacks like is. US Not have them and you've been a part of these discussions for key and it's often been specific acidic to USC. Not Having a lot of black quarterbacks. But I the Sani any while. They're don't forget. Reggie Perry Perry in the early nineties. Longest neck I've ever seen on human being in my life. That's by choice. The long neck. No Well okay this this gets back to what key is always said. It's just not what USC does. I think the same thing can be said about like the dual purpose quarterbacks quarterbacks it's just not what they do until you do something that's uncomfortable you'll be stuck you will be stuck in last year rather than going to this year. Lsu said you know what we're not GonNa do it and look where they're at right now all right coming up. I'm going to give you guys some names on the rams. You guys are going to tell me be there next year not GONNA be there next year next. Hey before demarco your entire life is funky baseline function as line. The way to live life Bass player that looks like he smells bad gas. Absolutely all right. So the rams finished up their season yesterday on a winning note over the Arizona Cardinals. Thirty one twenty four they finish at nine and seven Kinda. I coach to have three consecutive winning seasons since Mike Martz for the rams rams I mean that's impressive. They've had a lot of coaches. Do No doubt absolutely It's interesting to their season. They were not up to to their expectations. They didn't come close to meeting their goals but they weren't bad either. You know what I mean. It's more was bad. Jameis Winston beat the brakes rick software. Yes so they were bad a few times. They weren't bad team as a whole like they were just good enough not to be bad bad enough not to meet their actual. I think yeah to kind of just that point is that there's just a couple of plays that if you can have back it'd be totally different right. Where the field goal in Seattle Archaic Pittsburgh? They make that when they win or if they implement the game plan they had against Chicago against Pittsburgh in the fourth quarter. They probably win that game. And then the San Francisco if they don't frozen interception right before the half to warner that changed the momentum of the game but yet the rams were still in it and it took a last second Robbie Goldfield go to win that game so they had some duds. Don't get me wrong that there was some duds psych. San Fran. The first time Dallas was a major Baltimore's but outside sided those three. I think it's a little bit different in terms of it wasn't sort of a disastrous season fell short of the expectations insured disaster winning football team. I ever disaster meet expectations but right. Now the sky's not falling. It was a good snow for them. But it wasn't bad. Ah Yes The the most one of the most alarming games to me and it's so funny was that was a blowout game but it should have been worse. It was a game in London. You should've have you. Should beat the brakes off. Cincinnati could not pull away from that right. You know what I mean like you had credit. They played hard. I just didn't have enough the sack Taylor to finish to win wins. That's what I mean and you had them. You were the better team but you just doesn't the first quarter. I mean first half and they just we knew it was going to be annexed. Joe Mixon from that team I would in the heartbeat input on yours. Yeah I feel bad for him. He's going to be like Corey. Dillon Half Your Kerr is gonNA be wasting no doubt go somewhere else. All right well The rams have a Lotta decisions. This off season in terms of players. Who they're going to keep with their free agents is players that are under contract that maybe they looked to move or cut restructure the contract according to spot trek at spot track you can find their their they do all sorts of cap breakdowns for four different sports? Because it's a very good site There's an expectation that Jared Goff will restructure his twenty twenty twenty one million dollar roster bonus onus that can clear almost seventeen million dollars space. Are you serious. Oh good work track but at the same time that the rams are still going to be a team without a Taunton. That's good for him. That's the smartest line like deferring alone like you're saying. Hey we want to do this now you still GonNa pay it. They I know it also. We saw the Dallas cowboys. Do it for so many years with Tony. Romo which was every like they were kept pushing off. Okay we're GonNa do this and then you just in salary cap just stranglehold. And what can I do. But the rams have to be creative and keeping money. They're going to be very creative. I think this off season. Yeah absolutely and we'll see see if that actually happens which goffin. I'm sure it'll be reported when it does but I'm GONNA run through some names of guys who are either free agents or have contracts that perhaps the team would look to move. I want you guys to tell me. They'll be back or not. Gin with a free agent Corey Littleton. He called me not go which is a shame for that defenseman. The only way he's back because if he takes less money right I would say this listening to him. Talk Friday in the locker room after practice. He sounds like a guy that is not going to be taken as an undrafted dude. Put himself in position to make a lot of money. You Oh you don't or anyone anything. Yeah take the highest bidder. Well especially in that sport shelf life can be short short. Have you take the money. He's earned it absolutely Michael brokers socially gone And it's so bad that he's in a walking boot right now but I fully expect I tend to be in the NFC west next season. Just probably not here. It's a shame he's a great young. Yeah that Locker Monster Yes yes just the number of guys who who made the journey from Saint Louis. La Dwindling right. He could have been there when less need chose him instead of Sammy Watkins. I'm telling you they were lined up out front front with pitchforks. They thought he was crazy. He's an underrated. Part of the doubt. I mean over. Five hundred tackles as a defensive player that is worth a fourth First Round Pick Dante Holler. I think he'll be back I think he's gone ye good season. He had a good team going to. Somebody's GonNa pay him when you have that kind of season in in a league that pass rushers are at a premium like you are not a premium because you can't find them. They don't grow on trees. That's why chase young the defensive end for Ohio State. I WANNA go to overall. We watch what Nick Bosa was. Cisco thank you. Get One of these guys Josh Allen the defensive end for the Buffalo for the Jacksonville Accident Jaguar. You get an edge rusher in this league and you don't have to pay for a while yes. He's a proven commodity. That's why keep price himself out with the rams. Let me let me let me restate. I think think somebody's GonNa want to pay him. I don't think the rams are GonNa let him go because they're still mechanisms to keep him and rams uniform it would also be really interesting to see what that defense looks like without potentially as little to brokers or follower really different. I can tell you the worst I think you can make another brokers I think you can make another one with either gains or Sebastian Sebastian. Joseph Day paired with Donald you don't have another fowler. No you don't have anybody coming off the bench that can rust like that. We'll Simpson Abraham on on Primetime Games. James Plan prime right they play games and number fifty playing him. He can do it. You can pass rusher this. This guy is a natural pass. rusher you can't. They don't fall off trees under contract but maybe one that can be problematic for the rams brandin cooks he go you think so. Yeah who's going to trade for that I've always hard talking to a head coach before not about Brandin cooks. It just seems like there are certain guys there for one reason. What is Brandin cooks here for hopefully stress to fill did the rams do that in two thousand Nineteen Tina? Well you need affection for that. But here's the tough thing I think they're in a tough spot with him because he wants to continue playing yes. You're you're kind of stuck with them now. He's one hit away. I was GONNA say man if I'm him. Now you've got at least be considering. Do I want to keep doing this. You know who went through Bruce something like this and kept playing forever was a little less laker. Wes welker played forever and they thought he should retire. Ten years ago Redid Jalen Ramsey although they try and find a way to do the deal yes after everything they gave up they they. They're smart do it earlier than later because his price tag is going to keep going in going in and the cornerback position is going to keep rising just and then. The last one taught girly. You're going to be for. I talked early stays I think that he'll be there. I'll throw one. We're naming there. I think rob havens nine as Contra. I gotta take a long look at me in putting him on the mood. Do not get rid of oftens lined up with a quarterback lead jared Goff I ingredient hogs you can get I agree but I how can you lose a blyth. Yes better keep the guy you are wrestling means. I may have to move some money from here to over here so he will be a candidate that it just. It's going to be remember. This team for next year. is going to be addition by subtraction. Yeah that's how we do know. Todd is going to be interesting in the offseason. You're going to be talking about that a lot. Well I mean they have a lot to figure out when it comes to Todd Gurley in this team and how they're going to be using him moon four. We will be back tomorrow coming up next even Smith show.

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Thrillers for Summer

The Book Review

55:02 min | 1 year ago

Thrillers for Summer

"Over the past twenty years. Melinda gates has traveled the world. She's met brave women fighting for equality. She's listen to their stories and learned, and she's discovered one powerful truth. When we stop holding women back, we lift everyone in her compelling new book, the moment of lift Melinda, shares this journey the Washington Post concert, an inspirational look at the need to empower women to make change in the world. Read the moment of lift by Melinda gates equality can't wait and. Looking I real this summer, Vanessa Friedman will be here to talk about the best thrillers for the summer. And if you're planning a trip, or wishing you were Liezl Schillinger will be here to talk about the latest in travel, writing boss will talk about what we're looking forward to reading the summer here at the book of this is the book review podcast from the New York Times. I'm Pamela, Paul. The nessa Friedman joins us now to talk about the best thrillers of summer Vanessa, thank you so much ravine. Here, Pamela great to be with you. All right. You reviewed seven thrillers for us titles. I'm gonna run to them quickly. And then we'll go back and talk about them all the lost things by Michelle Saks into the jungle by Erica finish check beyond all reasonable doubt by Melinda person, g Alito a nearly normal family by Mt. Edvardsson paper wasp by Lauren Acampora temper by lane Fargo and last, but not least because it's a big, huge buzzy book, lots of anticipation for this one. Thomas Harris's curry Mora, so a lot of fun, thriller books. Let's start with the, the big one Thomas Harris author of silence of the lambs. How does this hold up? How does it compare? Well, it's been thirteen years. So people I think, were really eager to find out what was next from him. And, you know, there's, there's a monster in this one, but he's actually a relative. Wli underplayed character. And in a way, I think it almost felt like he was a nod to the Harris fans like he felt like had to give them some sort of crazy flesh eating. He's really flesh melting guy if not Hannibal Lecter than someone. And you get Hans-Peter Schneider think his name is it doesn't sound quite terrifying. I have to say he's not, he's actually ultimately a minor character. You know, carry more of the women in the title is the protagonist and she is a more physical and I think actually compelling women than clery Starling. You know, she's got more confidence and more power, and you know, it was actually it was a lot of fun to read. What's it about? So she is a Colombian refugee. So it's actually it's very topical because we're dealing with the issue of immigration, and, you know, threats of deportation, and she is living in south Florida, and working at into small animal refuge, as well as being a hazard, a house sitter more immense. On the coast, which which was once owned by Pablo Escobar and rumor has it has is full of some hidden gold, and this becomes the kind of the crux on which a whole bunch of interested parties converge, and she gets sucked into that drive for various drug lords gangsters and other monsters to, to try and get the gold, does it feel like a Thomas Harris novel. Like for those who read the previous books, the Hannibal Lecter books. Sounds the lambs. And then various prequels and sequels does it feel like of a piece, or does it feel like a departure for Thomas Harris, it feels like an evolution, which is a good thing. Okay. So he's changed in thirteen years. He's moved on a bit. Sorry. I wanna talk about the next two books together because they are both translated from the Swedish both by the same translator. His name is Rachel Wilson Breuls, the first is beyond all reasonable doubt by Milan Persson g Alito and then a nearly normal family by Mt. Adverse in our Swedish thrillers like the next kind of. The next thing is it like a Nordic Noir. It's it's not definitely not as gruesome as Nordic tour. Okay. So this is Joe. Okay. Let's blood, they're both slightly antiseptic intone. Although I'm never quite sure if that's a function of the translation, or simply, like the way these authors. Right. One is a legal thriller. One is a semi legal thriller family thriller Miller. You know. And, and they both turn on, really the question of how well we know the people around us how much we really understand about motivation and they're pretty compelling to read. Okay. So let's talk about a nearly normal family. That is the not quite legal thriller. What's that about? So there's a seventeen year old daughter of a minister and his lawyer wife, who has been convicted of murder, and as parents there, of course, incredibly torn about the idea that their child could ever do something like that. And it is a kind of rash, Amman telling so that each member of the family explains their, their version of what happened and, you know, I think the daughter is by far the most interesting. Complicated and multilayered character. The father's a little whiny gets a little annoying spends. A lot of time wrestling with the questions of you know what has God tell him versus what is his obligation to his family. The mother is much more cut and dried and, you know, all about defending in court her child, and then we find out whether or not the child, actually did it. All right. Let's move to our other Swedish import which is very much a legal thriller beyond all reasonable doubt by Milan person g leader. What's the premise of this book? So severe Webster is the lawyer in question here, she is she has been called in to defend a convicted murderer who has been in jail for a very long time, because one of her old law professors has gone through the evidence and decided he did not have a fair trial originally. Now, a lot of the impetus behind his conviction was actually public opinion, because there were many rumors at the time, and he's kind of a jerk, you know, he's arrogant, he's off pudding, he doesn't look like he's wrestling with any sort of moral issue. And people had all were there were all these rumors saying that. He had abused his young child. That was never proven. But everyone decided he was just a bad guy. So the question for Sophia as much as whether or not he actually did anything is, is it right to remove this person from society because he's a bad guy. Whether or not he actually is guilty of the specific crime, he committed when it comes to think, Scandinavian, one of the questions I always wonder what about whether it's a book or TV show or movie is like to get to feel like I'm in Scandinavia where everything is better to get a sense of the place. I don't know like to these feel somehow like inherently Swedish are they very much kind of international crossover and you just dip into it? Well, I think you can definitely dip into it because the actual plotlines are completely universal. However, I think part of that antiseptic feeling is actually a question of place and setting, you know, in the same way that like design in Sweden, and home, you know, homewares sweetener, very minimal and sort of blonde wood and clean. The pros is all. Also very minimal and kind of clean. So if you like Danish. Hair down. Minimalist look you will, like this kind of thriller. Okay. This does not look at all. Antiseptic on unto jungle by Erica, Farren chick, if I'm pronouncing that correctly, because the line on the covers it will swallow you whole. Like erupting with kind of with the, the greenery and the plant life and the foliage and the animals in the Bolivia and John goal. And it is really heavy. Is it good? Yeah, it is good. It's about a girl who is comes from the American foster care system, ends up in Bolivia because she's chasing job there meets a guy falls in love and ends up moving to the jungle to his village with him because panther has eaten his young nephew as they do. And they're going to they're going to go hunting for it. And, you know, and she essentially becomes tries to become a part of his tribe, and, you know, that doesn't always go so, well, one of the ironies of reading this book is actually, the, the depiction of place. You know, the poisonous frogs in the flesh eating parasites in the water. Snakes is so much richer, and more terrifying than the actual people involved that, you know, when you get to the, the mystery. It self the kind of the Pitino theoretic plot twist, you kind of just wanted to go way, and one hear more about the fraud. Let's get back to the frogs Olivia. What about all the loss things with Michelle sacks? That looks a little bit more domestic, it's going to be very familiar to anyone who read 'em. Donahue's room. You know, the main character is a seven year old girl. She's been taking on a road trip by her father. And so she's essentially trapped in a small car and she speaks much as the protagonist in that book, in selected capital letters, which is something that's done for emphasis in the kind of depiction of a child's voice, but it can be a little irritating until you get, you know, sort of give yourself over to it, and then she's actually quite a charming child, and it becomes a very emotional book, the other two books are also set in the US paper boss by Lauren Acampora. Tell us about that book. So that one's a Hollywood warr, although it starts in Michigan, and it features two high school classmates who are best friends group heart. One, one off to Hollywood became a star. Let one state where she was and hurled got smaller and smaller smaller, because she turns out to have to be somewhat unstable personality and they re meet during a high school reunion. And the unstable one Abby is invited to go visit her friend, and, you know, the, the kind of throw away invitation that one does during high school reunion. And she takes it seriously off. She goes and becomes, essentially a fantasist stalker, and ends up really taking over her friends life. And then the last one is temper by lean Fargo this, listen, Chicago. What's about the experimental theater world in Chicago? And again, it's about a would be actress who gets sucked into the thrall of a conceptual director slash actor. And he attempts to mold her into whatever his idea of his leading lady is with the expected negative results. What was your favorite among these seven thrillers probably into the jungle? And then get to the jungle, and the severe Webster book. You read a lot of thrillers. And I don't know what you're sort of bar is like, like what is your standard? I mean, is it that something that is doing something, different or something that maybe is predictable? But does it so well, what are you? Yeah. I, I want something to suck me in, you know, to even even if I see something coming, even if you know where it's going, you can't really stop reading it, and that's often a function of the pros and the characters and the atmosphere, that's created and to me, that's what you want, you want a story that really carries you along. Ideally at the end you'd like a surprise. But even if you don't get us apprise you feel somewhat satisfied by the fact that you couldn't put it down. So some of our listeners might be thinking to themselves. I know the name Vanessa Friedman. I know the name Vanessa Friedman and it's not just because you occasionally right thriller reviews for us in other reviews of books, but also because perhaps here, the fashion director here at the times, and our chief fashion critic. And so I can't help it ask it's quite clear that you have a critical eye from the way you talk about these. Folks. How does fashion criticism differ from literary criticism? And I don't know if there are there any surprising ways, in which it's very much a similar enterprise. What I'm thinking about fashion. I'm really thinking about the role of image in the public eye, and how people are trying to manipulate other people's impressions of them, you know, how to manipulate opinion, and how to communicate and books are essentially a means of communication and an author as always trying to manipulate your understanding, and your perception. So I think you know that level they're, they're very similar. You also have to do a lot of travel for your fashion writing often going back and forth to shows are thrillers, Agutu genre for you in terms of just your I'm assuming you're on the plane lot. It's essentially a brain Clinton's for me, you know, if you spend all day looking at skirts and dresses and trying to figure out what this is saying about, you know, women's lives in that moment the opportunity to escape into a book, you know, that you can pick up and put down, which is also important, you know, and, and go into a really different world is pretty valuable. Right. Well, that's, that's a lot less gruesome than, but I was imagining, you might say, which is like you can't help wonder like if they were brutally slaughtered in that dress. What would it look like? All right. Vanessa. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you, Vanessa Friedman is our chief fashion critic at the times in the fashion director of the New York Times. And she also reviewed thrillers for this week's summer reading issue. Over the past twenty years. Melinda gates has traveled the world. She's met brave women fighting for equality. She's listened to their stories and learned and she's discovered. One powerful truth. When we stop holding women back, we lift everyone in her compelling new book, the moment of lift Melinda, shares, this journey, the Washington Post calls it an inspirational look at the need to empower women to make change in the world. Read the moment of lift by Melinda gates equality. Can't wait. Joining us now from Washington, Elizabeth flock, who is my partner over at the PBS news hour. For the now read this book club. Liz, thanks for being here and having so to our podcast listeners who may not be familiar with us now read. This is a book club now in its second year in which the New York Times book review together with PBS news hour chooses a book can be fiction. It could be nonfiction. It could be new it can be old that we think somehow captures a conversation that's going on in the news or in our culture today, and Liz, who works together with Jeffrey Brown or other partner over at PBS NewsHour together with editors here at the book review helps choose the books and then leads the book club members through conversation on Facebook. And then on the PBS NewsHour, the end of each month and Liz this week joins us to talk a little bit. About how we pick our books and why. And what our next book is for the month of June. So Liz, from your end tell us what you all are looking for in a book selection every month. We're looking for merit. It's about the book itself. It's about the author and it's also about books that matter. Now, when we started this book club, we said that it was going to be about books that help us make sense of the times that we're living in. So we really want it to feel relevant, and almost driven by the news and the current conversation to help people make sense of things, right? And like all book club Hicks, you kind of have to have something in their some meat that really merits conversation discussion to absolutely conversation and also sort of an immersive reading experience. I think we want people to really be active on the Facebook page talking about it. The baiting asking each other questions trying to figure out things together, and also people can. Attribute their own questions for the author when they're interviewed by Jeffrey Brown on air on the news hour. Yeah. Every month, we solicit reader questions. People record videos of themselves asking the questions. And then those questions are posed directly to the author, which author than answers on television. All right. So we're going to do something exciting, which is announced the next book here on the broadcast, which will be simultaneous with the with the news hour last month. We read Daniel Mandelson's, an odyssey, a memoir and this month. We are going with drummer, Liz, we are reading n que Jonathan's fantasy novel the fifth season. So why did we decide on this book? Well, I think it is really about the book itself is the tremendous complicated. Immersive book. They won the Hugo award in two thousand sixteen the highest honor for science fiction. She's the first female, black author to win and now she's one three times in a row in a row for the trilogy. And actually, this book is the first in a trilogy. But I'll say you don't necessarily need three at all three. Although I did after I finished by myself wanting to continue and this book is very timely. You know, it takes place in a world, not our own. But I think it's premise is very timely, which, is that in the fifth season, the world is menaced by constant environmental catastrophe and its inhabitants are struggling to figure out how to make their way in that world. It's a very nice pick for June because we wanted something that felt summary in a way like a big grossing novel that you could get in. But we'd also I think on both of our ends been thinking a lot about the environment and in trying to get a novel that sort of touched on that more directly, even if not going with a nonfiction book about climate change. Right. And as you're reading this, it's speculative fiction, but you're thinking the entire time this is what our world can look like humans don't address some of the very pressing problems of today. And so you're reading it and your growth. And your world building and you're getting attached the characters, but at the same time, there's this sort of thing happening at the back of your mind where you're constantly anxious at the same time, and it was just made a really interesting renamed -perience, and it longtime listeners of the podcast will remember that Nora Kaye. Jemison has been a guest on this podcast talking about her work and also that she is the former and was the first other worldly columnist for the book review. She reviewed science fiction and fantasy novels for us for several years before handing over the reins. I think she is now fulltime immersed in novel writing, and in screen adaptations of her work, but we're very excited to see her on the news hour to talk about her new book, so Liz, thanks so much again for joining us. They much Elizabeth flock is an arts and books producer at PBS NewsHour. These schilling joins us now to talk about the best travel writing for summer, reading, LIZA. Thanks for being here. Thanks for having me. So for those who are not familiar with our summer reading travelled around up. I can speak a little bit from direct experience because I used to write this myself when I was a freelancer for our mutual editor, now my colleague Elida Becker, and I find this to be such a fun project because Elida will send you like huge boxes of travel books, and then you get to kind of sift among them and choose, which ones you wanna review, which I always found extremely fun rather than to have to review something. We'll twenty four thirty of them. I mean, there's so many but for anyone who's a real armchair traveller, as well as a, you know, Aaron C traveler, it's so exciting to hold in your hand. All these different places you could go and an always cities and places islands come to mind that I hadn't thought about. And I just get so engrossed in the problem. Is actually weeding them out. Weeding out. I mean the way that I did it. I'm curious how you did it. But the way I thought about it was that I didn't pick and choose necessarily the best because you can always review things negatively, which is fun necessary often, but to try to find some kind of Kochi sieve, or coherent narrative some kind of arc that sort of ties them together that might say something about travel in our times, or certain aspect of travel, or an aspect of travel writing what do I do exactly the same thing. I look for some unifying principle. Something that ties them together. I look at these books as stepping stones to each other. And after I've looked at enough of them, I begin to sort of see the trajectory they can make together in this one, so many of the authors, departed from wildly different points of knowledge about the trips they were or the places they were writing about that. I kind of thought, okay, what do you need to know to embark on the adventure that each one of these books suggests and that was kind of? How I did it? And I and I began with people who just didn't know a thing they were just blindly just a shot in the dark getting on a boat that they bought without even seeing it. Yeah. Going. They knew not where I mean, I always find that a very interesting divide in terms of travel writing, you can have the kind of person who sort of the idiot who steps into a situation. They know nothing about the sort of Redmond O'Hanlon into the heart of Borneo like, Harry on. Yeah. Love him to or you can have the, you know, I've been studying Egypt my entire life, and here I am specifically going to this teeny corner of Egypt. The one teeny police have you part of Egypt that I haven't been to find out about this one small sliver? I like both the absolute beginners who just kind of plunged into the pool and started flailing and the people who are deeply involved, whether it's intellectually or through their travels or through some family background that pops up. I like it all one travel writer is the key of that. I really like is James Fenton. Oh, yeah. Book called bad trips and see that also weaves politics into it and was accompanied Redman, Ohio. Onlin often often on those trips that Redmond wrote about. Yeah. I think I I discovered both of them in Granta decades ago. But then got their books, just because I, I really like to kinds of travel writing one is the people who don't pretend they're sophisticated new everything to begin with the people who don't pretend you shouldn't be shocked when somebody gives you, you know, boiled goat's heads with eyeballs rolling around the people who of say, wow, this, this took me aback, then explained I like it, when they draw you into this prizes, and don't present sophistication. But then I also do like the people who do so much about something, an artfully weave their knowledge into it in a way that makes the, the landscape come alive because you do need to know about some places before you land. What do you think about the complainers? You know, the sort of Paul through model of the, you know, you go somewhere or a nude, everyone is despicable, and in some way, or annoying, or no. Well, actually I'm trying to remember which of these authors mentioned Paul through lovingly in their book. This time round a little of it goes a long way. If I don't feel they're just being hectoring, and first world, and privileged, if I actually think that they were under duress and it's and it's amusing to share in their miseries than I like it. Yeah. I know planning can be fun, little, a little a little bit of basil Fawlty is, is fun, particularly when the writing about the restaurants. I'm going to run through the titles. And I, I should say all that. You did like this was like a herculean task. You not only God twenty four bucks, but you chose half of them. So particularly audience stables. Yeah. Yeah, I have I have ten books in front of me, but I think you actually reviewed twelve bucks. I think you don't have pagan light there, which was one of my favorites pagan light by Jamie, James. Okay. So we'll talk about pigging light, but I'm going to run the rest of the titles, just so people know what they're in for the book. Folks that lethal reviewed this week for trouble roundup include seven at see why a New York City family castoff convention for a life changing year on a sailboat by Erik Orton. An EMMY ordin that sounding intriguing Ottoman odyssey travels through a lost empire by a love Scott. She's an amazing women she studied classics at Oxford, and then she went to bussers university in Istanbul to teach Latin became a political reporter for the guardian. And this is her second book, and she is part, Turkish her mother's Turkish-Cypriot. It's an interesting time to, to be writing about Turkey and fascinating time. But she got in trouble for writing so much about the crackdown on freedom of speech and on reporters by air to one that they actually canceled her visa, and in the in, in the book, she's so crushed. Because she's gone to make a pilgrimage to see editor childhood home in Thessaloniki, which used to be called Salonika the Turkish empire. In the in the Greeks, they kind of mesh uncomfortably over this take the train to go to Thessaloniki from Turkey. You have very different railroad systems, and it's like this incredibly arduous train transfer because then the fives really ridge. Yeah. My, my brother did that. I haven't made that trip it similar also when you're going on the trans-siberian to the transplant Gullion railroad, you have to wait for the trains to be lifted onto wheels of a different gauge because that's done so that people can't just invade by rail. But anyway, back to the question of this Alinsky and olive Scott. So she was going back to Don bul where she'd been living for years. And they said, no, you can't come back, your visa privileges have been revoked and so- nonetheless, she's got to get back to her native Turkey or her path native Turkey. So she goes to learn, which is a Greek city on the Turkish Greek split island of Cyprus. And then you makes it over land up to northern Cyprus, which is Turkish. But then she talks about the paradoxes of these different. Offenses of people who have so much in common, and it's just fascinating reading her travels, in that book to see how, you know, Turkey was a caliphate that spread across many, many continents for centuries. And if you go to what used to be good Slavia now, Erdo ones, government Heffer decade. They've been rebuilding mosques and whirling dervish lodges and funding universities. And she said, you, you could compare it to the talian government had started restoring Roman ruins across Europe. So it's really amazing to have her eye to see this vine of Turkishness spreading into leaf. So this travels through lost empire her subtitle of autumn and odyssey really is empire in the old sense of the word. It's, it's Turkey extending beyond the borders. She travels through the Levada she's she goes to Turkish. She goes to Israel. She goes to Bosnia and she missed an air, one fan, boy, who has pendens all over his back yard with a Turkish colors, and it's, it's, it's amazing to sort of. See the patriotism. Well, the, the Turkish boost tourism that she finds. All right. Let's skip onto the other titles. And then we'll come back and go into each a little bit more detail the salt path by Rainer win law Thuringia which if I'm pronouncing that correctly, a personal history of Europe's lost country by Simon winder. See you in Piazza by Francis Maes. There is a familiar, name, the subtitle of that is new places to discover Italy, John van Sotho NHS, Masuku, mediocre one American learns the high art of being everyday, French. Okay. We can tell I think which school that falls into, and then another francophile Heidel John Baxter's a year in Paris season by season in the city of light. Kristen night, paces this much country in Putin's footsteps searching for the soul of an empire across Russia's eleven timezones by Nina Khrushchev, Yow, I think we'll show of us. Is that, but she is the granddaughter of Asia, granddaughter crucial. Wow. And Jeffrey Taylor and then off the rails. A train trip through life by Beppe, e sever knee, and there's one other book, I think you haven't mentioned volcanoes palm trees and privilege essays, on Hawaii, by Liz proto in Oregon, Ian, who in her soul wishes she could be a true islander. Well, let's start there because now I sounds like a nice place to start. Well, it does. But this book is very interesting. It's very much a creature of our time. She loves away. She went. There's a twelve year old right before parents got divorced. And then she started going back many times with her father, who was maybe doing something with real estate there. But it's so it's where she came of age and she weaves it into a famous Brady bunch story of the family going there. She's very concerned about white Americans trying to appropriate who I in culture. In one thing is that she uses Hawaii. She uses that it looks like an apostrophe, but sina, and so she talks about how emotionally she related to this island, how much she loves it, but she really defends its right to its own heritage apart from what tourists even well-meaning tourists like her want to make of it. That's interesting. Does that has the issue of cultural appropriation, sort of Permian any of these books of these other ones, I stepping stones at one with a fascinating book on the island of Capri called pagan light by Jamie? James and see Cup. Pre is a little island about twenty miles across the bay of Naples, which was first colonized by the Augusta's when he was old. He just sort of went and had an island retreat there. But then his successor Tiberius the emperor Tiberius built, like twelve different palaces on that island. But then the historians Suetonius and Tacitus accused him of vile sadistic gross sexual acts in the island was. Like covered an infamy, and famous French serial killer named g delay copied the things that Tiberius may actually not have done. But anyway, so if you've heard of Capri all you think is the blue grotto, you think of odd, Hepburn, and everything, contempt, you'd think of Rashid bardo. And there's this amazing house that was built on the island of Capri. I'm trying to remember the name of the architect. It's called the CASA Malo party. It was built by the fascist later Maoist, author, Kurt sale Mullah partee. But anyway, it's a boxy strange house on this hillside. Overlooking the bay of Naples. But anyway, more interesting is for the purpose of this book, Jamie James has found the linked together, the Ritz, biographies of great artists and writers, Somerset mom live there with, I think it was one of his lovers, the bent in the man who wrote map Lucia Oscar Wilde and Bosie came there after Oscar Wilde had been to jail, but he was kind of shunned because of class violations though. Lesbian painter romaine Brooks had a house. Their core key was exiled there, which the Russians dot was a joke because exiled in paradise after leading came in hung out with him. So basically, the more you read this book. The more I just thought of the piazzetta, and I thought of Shirley hazzard who he Glenn, whom he glancing Lee mentions. But the real history of this island is in the nineteenth and early twentieth. Centuries is gifted, renegades, people who are outsiders, who came in and kind of brought their creative vision, and their separateness to this island, and it was their refuge. So I want to go to Capri, and visit these gorgeous villas. They built in my favorite is a French turn of the century poet and writer named fair sin. It was a made up name a lot of them had made up names. He was shamed in Paris, right before he married someone. Because he staged these tableaux Vive owns where young boys would be nude draped in silken, like gold, taffeta, diaphanous wraps, and they'd be lying on bear skins covered in lily's, enacting classical scenes and the. The Paris tabloids made. Hey of that and his engagement was broken. And he fled to Capri. So a lot of the people have stories like that. All right. I want to go from there. So we're going from Hawaii to Capri to another place on the sea, although very different the south west coast of England with the salt path by Rainer wind because you said, this was also one of the books that you, especially liked. I was very moved by this book. I was surprised by. It's a true story, the author Rainer win Raewyn and her husband moth, where about fifty fifty one and in one day they lost their house, which is a farm, owes they used it also rental, and it was a business deal through a friend, that it that they that they lost it was a bad speculation. That got them in trouble the next day they found out that moth had a terminal illness. They were turfed out of their house, and they didn't want to be a burden on their kids who are only about twenty so they thought of this book called five hundred mile walkies about a man who walked the south west coast path. Which goes from Somerset down to Dorset they had two backpacks on their backs. They had no money they had a little tent. But as they walked through this rugged landscape, there really touching. It reminds me of the beautiful novel by Kazuyoshi guru the buried giant because it's this couple, and they feel more elderly than they are. But they're in the elements walking through this kind of mythic landscape and strange things happen to masseuse soothsayer comes up and says your journey will end when you walk with a turtle, you're like, what? But so they're having a rough time. They have no money and it's a moving journey, and it's an odyssey, they get back home. And I'm assuming that this book raised them out of their distress, but it's a quite amazing story of a journey in flight from adversity that brought them home. Let's go to something that seems like it's been Britain before many, many times, this book about France. The most recent one or probably not them as recent one, but you think of me. Talk pretty one day by David sedaris. This one is called Monsieur mediocre one American learns the high art of being everyday, French by John van Sutphin. It's very funny. He definitely presents himself as an absolute, beginner, but there wasn't enough space to give some of the different angles and depths of this book in my little write up, but he was a thirty year old man just about to turn thirty in Brooklyn when he fell in love with this gorgeous. Cool Frenchwoman who was working as a waitress in a bistro. Her name is unease and she was very scornful, and he was completely smitten, and I kind of think of her as Latham Nikita, but her name was as he follows her to Paris. They decide to have a baby, but you see him reacting in astonishment to French cultural expectations. And but you also learn the back story which is his parents were Eisenhower Republicans, and they were in their forties when they had him, he grew up Georgetown, and his mother had had a year in Paris, after I think it was Vassar, and she always. His told him instead of bedtime story. She told him about her adventures in France. And so he was really steeped from his earliest childhood, and this idea of seeking France has kind of liberation and after that year, she ended up working for Air France, so she could see the world and travel, but so, you know, he got to finish the story that she had only tasted he's gotten to live it. And so it's, it's moving seeing that this is a bigger family story, even the story of his family with unease and their two kids. So here we come to yet. Another kind of two categories of, of travel books. One is where you drop in and, and, and leave. And then this kind, the second kind, the Peter males kind of where you go. And you stay. That's what he's done here in MCM, mediocre. He's lives there in France. Now they live in Paris. They found a this use spice warehouse, and they converted into a big old loft and the French thinks they're crazy. But also think they're cool and they live in an edgy neighborhood that these EMA, only smell, and that's pretty much where they've got so bad. Loan happened a few years ago. So but they also manage to get, you know, a country place, just because if you live in a foreign country, you basically take on the habits of the people around you. So, yeah, he is almost like that. Ray Bradbury story dark. They were with golden is he's slowly turning into being like the French people who surround him. All right. Well, I'm gonna pass over then John Baxter is a year in Paris, which people can read about in your roundup and skip over to this intriguing. Both of you mentioned earlier. I think intriguing to me because of the name of the author, I'm not going to try to pronounce it again, Nina crucial, ova Nina could've Shova a granddaughter of Nikita Khrushchev and Jeffrey Taylor. And their book is called in Putin's footsteps searching for the civil of an empire across Russia's eleven timezones. Let's those time zones. It's actually they point out if you look at Greenwich, meantime, more fairly would be seven, but the Russians have kept it eleven because they're so proud to be so expensive the Russian mindset. Mystery wrapped in an enigma. Churchill said let's not go there. But what she does is she does an unscrambled decode some of the mysteries we all have about Putin's Russia, you know, Americans don't like to believe that Putin is as popular as polls show. But he is then there, he certainly has massive detractors. And there's been massive rallies against his abuses of power, but she starts in Kaliningrad in the west and goes all the way east took him shot. You know that plastic flat Avaz stuck, and she visits in these cities. And I was really shocked to see that in every town. She went someone would stop her and say, clim lush Crimea is hours like they were proud that Putin had annexed it. And in the town square, she would see the double headed Ramon of eagle, which is at Sarah symbol, which has been brought back it was out of favour during the communist period, but she says an an empire that is trying to reassert itself. And she finds people who are still poor people who are who have have made money, but I, I really liked her focus, her Jeffries, focus on some cities. That I'd never seen written about like Perm I didn't know that's where Dr Zhivago, and the three sisters were both set and the town of Yakutsk has a willy mammoth museum and at Vladivostok. I guess they're trying to rebrand that is the San Francisco Russia. They're building three bridges there, including one called the golden bridge. She really branches out, and they branch out, I should say going, mostly along the southern extent along the, the translate Burien railroad, although they have to drive far off route to get to these towns. But they showed how it's connected and I think her expression was that it showed a kind of split personality. She thought that the double headed eagle was a pretty good sign of some of the confusions that she thinks divide the Russian. So let's end where we started, and where we are now with this book seven at see why New York City family cast off convention for life changing year on a sailboat by irc ordinance, Emily Orden. I mean this is. Also kind of not a new thing. I feel like there's been a number of books in recent years, where people up and gone with their family around the world and discovered many things about those places in themselves along the way where does this book fall into that category. This book, grabbed me because one of my earliest reading experiences is a kid was reading the Swiss family Robinson and seeing how they made isinglass they've, they cut certain fish. So they could make window like substances and they caught a Pechory and found a way to get the skin off of it. So they could eat it. It's showing how they survived and this weird circumstance. And then I also you know, if I read the odyssey later in, they actually home, actually gives descriptions of how a deceased made his raft then later, I read Kon-Tiki by higher doll, which they actually mentioned in this book to where he describes how he makes his seagoing rap, but you see how they do it. And I think a lot of us want to know what would be the practical steps you would take. How do you divorce from your Manhattan day job? How do you afford this? How do you run? On this boat. What do you do when suddenly the waterpipe isn't working or when the engine sputters? And so I just thought it was kind of fascinating just to see how they made it work. This isn't so much where they go as how they got there and how they are coping on board with the challenges that they face as a novice seafarers, but also as a family that's trying to I guess, tighten their bonds, and add context and texture to their bonds, while they're in this strange circumstance. Yeah. It's hard to imagine like where you would go if your brothers drive, you crazy or few just need to be alone for a while. One of the great things is they do again, counter every now and then as a similar. Jatta people like them and they haven't had boats, and they'll actually more for a couple of days so that the kids can like, you know, get in the dinghies and go and see other and, and get a little time away from the parents. Okay. So quick shorthand for those looking to do a little bit of armchair, travel reading this summer which books were your favorites among these that you've reviewed my favorite were the copybook I want to go to Capri? I want to see the, the remnants of the village oval built by to Tiberius, and I want to see the villa Lisa's, by the weird scandalous French baron, and poets Verson. And I actually wanted glide through the blue grotto. I've this called. That book is called pagan light, and that's by Jamie, James. It's it just fascinated with the kind of travel book that actually, makes you want to go to the place. It's talking about right? Another category. We didn't talk too much about see you in the Piazza by Francis Maes. But that's a very good book for someone who's already been to Italy and wanted to know more places to go. I really want to go to also DJ, I want to go to this northern alpine meadow place that she visits and an also eat the strange Germanic food that sheets, she gives recipes and each of these chapters. She also understands that people can't cook that, well, so she gives you cheat cheats and shortcuts them useful. The Putin's footsteps book, really drew me because I lived in Russia for awhile. I'm a bit of a Slava file I teach a bit about that. I want to go to Perm. I want to go to yucca. It's the book told me made me think I didn't want to go to Irkutsk. I probably don't want to go to blog of shades of famous strange city. She mentioned that's five hundred meters like across the more from Russia to China. So it's like literally like China is where we're Brooklyn is in New York. If you're in the Manhattan side, you can literally see China just across. I wanna see that I didn't mention the idea, rod book, I always wanted to know what it'd be like to too much sled dogs and this woman Kristen night pace wrote a book called this much country. And if you've. Ever wondered how that would work you might wanna read that. And the law Thuringia book, he mentions one particular village in the Netherlands, that used to be in Belgium called Saharan Bosh or something like that. It's, it's, it's very hard to pronounce. So was this a principality was this an actual country? What was Lutheran Lutheran just still exists? It actually means Lorraine like quiche Lorraine. But it's Belgium. It's france. It's luxembourg. It's not Liechtenstein. Or is it you know, it's in Germany, but only only west of, of the Ryan I think it's very confusing. You he, he writes, an jokey way of how hard it is to understand what, what parts he means. But I want to visit the Hairston Caboche, if I'm saying that, right? Which I'm probably not, which is the village where I run a Mus moustache lived, and there's a very weird me drill where they've got like devil in, like, dragon statuary. I wanna see the funky cathedral. And I want to see Hieronymus Bosch is village. Now, I think all of us do too, so lethal. Thank you so much for being here at least will still inter wrote our travel round up this week in our summer reading issue of the book review. Joining us now, my colleagues, Monica Tiv, Sarah Lyle and Concepcion Leone. Hi, guys. Hi, thanks for being here. So we are actually going to do something different this week. We're not going to talk about what we reviewed or what we read, but what we would like to read for the summer. So we will talk in light ignorance of books, they had yet to read, although perhaps we have read and want to reread and kind of what we like to read during the summer and I'm going to start with Shimono. What are you planning to hoping to read this summer? Oh, I think I realized pretty early on that my greatest chance for a summer fling would be one writer all summer. So you're gonna go study with me. Go steady with murals spark person to eat. I hope she calls me back. So I, I have never read the prime of miss Jean Brodie. But everybody I love loves that book. And I can't wait to read it right now. I'm sort of dipping, my toe in with a far cry from Kensington. And my plan is, you know to, to stick with her all summer and get through as many novels of hers as I can one of the many things that I love about bookstores in England as they have things like entire set up displeased that'll be all reissues of marines. Spark our executive editor dean bike. It's miracle spark fan. Oh and see. Okay. You can not gonna read anything else. I mean that's your plan. Awesome. Well, I well, I don't know if Muriel will know this. I mean, I'm seventy that has a lot of books going all at once but, but I, I like having that project. I like having that time to sort of, like luxury it in somebody's body of work. So you'll be having a relationship with her cheating on her with these other authors cheating. I like to think of this more as an open relationship. I mean cheat is a strong word, I think lay around about, you know, I'm still I'm still working out the details. Anyway, Sarah, what are you going to be reading this summer? Well, I'm going to start with some and I'm only slightly acquainted with who's Patrick read. Kief who, if you've already his amazing piece in the New Yorker couple years ago about the IRA and a unsolved mystery from Northern Ireland at the time of troubles, and produced a book called say nothing which is a book long expansion of that incredible piece. And it's, you know, it's like all these things that are beyond what they are. You know, it sounds from the reviews. I've read like a literary mystery and a historical mystery in an incredible feat of storytelling. And it happens to be a period. I'm you know, I've been a little scared to dig to deepen because it's so upsetting. But at a time when there's so much uncertainty in there was so much uncertainty, then about the reality and the truth of what was happening. His seeming enterprise in, in digging down in finding as much truth as he could send so admirable and interesting. And I love the way he writes, and then since it's going to be a little bit nonfiction for me this summer because I feel I've been to. Sloppy with escapist fiction in the last few months, I'm going to reread my friend, Lauren Collins's book, went in French, which is such a great book. And when I read it the first time I read it way too fast and she's such a good writer. She also writes for the New Yorker and this is a sort of memoir about learning whole new language, because of marrying someone who, that's his first language, so she's American. She married a French person and took French lessons, and it's a really great meditation on the importance of language, and how language reflects culture and it has one of my very favorite passages from recent years in it. Which is something like she's talking about how in the United States, there's some in America, you know, in English, there's so much tendency toward hyperbole and sort of a fusion, and it's kind of sloppy and she's saying, like, for example, I love barbecue. I love that top, you know, I love getting on the metro early in the morning on and on. And my husband has only ever loved me. I think it's so beautiful. So I want to read that I have to ask Sarah, because this book came up in conversation at lunch was that what inspired this rereading project? Yes. Because so often, you know, you read books specially novels I think that you read because he want to find out what happens, and you don't read them carefully enough. And then you go back and you realize how are you remember how beautiful the languages and you read it really slowly because you're so excited by the sentences and I think she's such a beautiful stylist. And so kind of clever, and I love her ride nature and you know, she's one of those people, no matter what she wrote about if she wrote about for year watching the paint dry and how it affected her. I'd be into it. She's also got into eter really funny on Twitter. Yeah, funny, and biting and rye there to Concepcion. What about you? What are you planning to read? I think that something that is sort of leftover from my schoolgirl days, is that I think which was like last year, obviously, like last month. So I still think of the summer as this like time where I have. Loads of time and I can just I just dig into things. And so it's the time that I use to really catch up on a whole bunch of books that I felt like I was too busy like during the year even though nothing changes. I'm still coming to work. I'm still like that, too young if it's any consolation. Oh, yeah. No. I imagine that number is going to be a break. And of course, interesting. The opposite totally what is summer reading when you don't really have a summer because you have a dog. Yeah. Does that mean I mean I think there is some sliver some other demographics earlier bit of maybe more of the magazine side of journalism, and the newspaper side that would have summer Fridays and go out to the Hamptons, I've never been part of that particular slice of America. So like for me, it's just the same old, same old. I used to have summer Fridays. It was really nice back in the day. I love it here too, though. You have to say that on this podcast. What will you read during these supposed long hours off you? So I have three books in front of me one I'm really excited about, it's the dreamers by Karen Thompson Walker. And I think I've only gotten two maybe twenty pages of it, but it's essentially about an epidemic in this small, I guess, college town in which the women start to kind of fall asleep and never wake up, and we don't I mean, I don't know what's going to happen yet. I don't know where it comes from. But the reason that I was really excited about it was because it got a blurb from Emily sT, John Mendel, who wrote station, eleven which is one of my favorite books of the last four years. And I just love dystopia novels. They're so fun to me. So I'm really excited about the end of the world. Much fun. I mean I just like to plan ahead and know what's coming. And then I'm also really excited about this book of essays called the good immigrants that came out, I think a couple of months ago and it's just twenty six different writers that are from different immigrant backgrounds from all over the world writing about their experience of immigrating to America. And that one I'm really excited about because I actually read a couple of essays when they came out, I think, on BuzzFeed and another platform that I'm not remembering right now and I've read a couple of them so so far, I'm enjoying that. And then the last one is the collected schizophrenia is by as me, way, June Wong, and that one I'm just really interested in mental illness. And I hear I haven't I haven't started this one at all. But I hear that she writes about it very beautifully and very intelligent lease at a memoir, or is it about other people's mental illness? I think it's a mix of, of a memoir and also kind of explaining a little bit about mental illness, and specifically schizophrenia, and I think she is. In front of schizophrenia. Exactly. Yeah. I mean I have schizophrenia in my family. So it's just an area that I'm very curious about, and kind of understanding, how people that have to deal with this illness, manage it and, and sort of approach the world and see the world, so excited about it. What about you Pamela? What are you reading? Well, I am planning to read this summer to books. I don't really know that much about them, but they, they have gone through the gauntlet of what I think of as, like the requirements that book needs to go through before. I will read it, which is to say they've been reviewed and then the editors who have handled those reviews have also endorsed them. So one of them is in our summer, reading roundup. It's called disappearing earth by Julia Phillips. This was a book that just got a great review called superb debut by Makota, and our summer issue the editor who assigned it. I said, is it really that good? You said, yes. Really that good. And the premise of it is when I enjoy. Which is like disappeared. Children thriller. And tragedy. But with the bonus that it takes place, income Chanaka, which is a place that exists to me only on a risk game board and therefore, I, I know nothing else about it other than you know, as often the source of my losing that game, which I inevitably always did. So I'm interested in this because it's a thriller, but it's also supposed to be a literary thriller, very well. Written more than a thriller. I'm fine with just a thriller. But the fact that it's more than that is intriguing to me. So that is disappearing earth by Julia Phillips, and the other book that I plan to read just came out in paperback this week. It's by Craig Brown, ninety nine glimpses of Princess Margaret, and what drew me to this. I was not interested in it when it came out, even though our critic eagle wrote a very positive review. And I think it was one of her best books at the year and the line, that got me was this one. This is the very business of biography, the most sheepish and constrained of the arts, the English journalist satire, s satires, good, preg- Brown. Writes in his new book, ninety nine glimpses of Princess, Margaret. However, his study of the Princess the younger sister of Queen, Elizabeth, and one of the twentieth, century's, great, malcontents, also something I like is gloriously, truant Brown ignores, all the starchy obligations of Agra fee and adopts a form of his own to trap the past and ensnare the reader, even this reader, so determinedly indifferent to the royals. I ripped through the book with the avidity of Margaret attacking her morning, vodka and orange juice. So how could you not want to read it, especially I'm like, Parle I am not interested in the royals but I just started watching the TV series, the crown with one of my children with my, my teenage daughter. Am totally enjoying it like very much, the actress Vanessa Kirby who pleased, Princess Margaret, and she, she, she seems sort of from the beginning, like she's gonna kinda enliven this joint if anyone is meaning like the palace. So I've only just started out, but it def. Piqued my interest in Princess Margaret. So that is ninety nine glimpses of Princess Margaret by Craig Brown. And let's just run down the titles again. Gemina what do you want to read? I'm reading as much of mural sparks novels, as I can get my hands on that Sarah. I'm reading say nothing by Patrick red, and kief and one in French by Lauren Collins. And what are you planning to read Concepcion? I'm reading the dreamers by Karen Thompson Walker, the good immigrant, which was edited by Nick cash Shukla and Shimane Suliman. I hope I'm saying that correctly and collected schizophrenia, is by as May June Wong, and I am planning to read disappearing earth by Julia Phillips, a ninety nine glimpses of Princess Margaret by Craig Brown. All right. Thanks so much bang. Yeah, thank you. Remember, there's more at NY times dot com slash books, and you can always write to us at books at NY times dot com. I write back, albeit not right away. The book review podcast is produced by Pedro Rosado from head stepper media with a great help of my colleague, Don Williams. Thanks for listening for the New York Times. I'm Pamela, Paul.

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Monday 26 November

Monocle 24: The Monocle Daily

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Monday 26 November

"You're listening to the monocle daily. First broadcast on the twenty sixth of November two thousand eighteen on monocle twenty four the monocle daily in association with UBS. From Madari house in London. This is the monocle daily. I'm Andrew Miller coming up Ukrainian and Russian ships clash off the Crimean coast where is Moscow going with this? Also ahead could the UK vote on Brexit again. The last one was such fun. The leader of the Liberal Democrats for one thinks so I suspect that the government scheduled evoked he down there will be a series of amendments to it. We can't yet say us. There is a good chance that they will vote to have a people's vote a referendum. We'll look at whether he's being overly optimistic. We'll also look ahead to the g twenty summit preparing to descend on. And it's about a young man's discovery of discovery light Monday, people discovery of the city such about Lulu post things. A new film finds a new angle on London's SoHo all that plus a reflection on the life and work of the late nickel. Roic and more. Besides that's coming up on the monocle daily live from London starting now. And welcome to tonight's monocle daily with me, Andrew Miller. Tonight's Ukraine has declared martial law in parts of the country. This follows an incident in the waters off the coast of Crimea in which a confrontation between Ukrainian and Russian ships has resulted in the capture by Russia of three Ukrainian Croft and then twenty three crew an injury to several of the Ukrainian sailors, the Russian ships opened fire on the Ukrainian vessels before Russian troops, boarded them. The Ukrainian ships were sailing around Crimea from Odessa to Mariupol in the sea of Azov entry to which Russia has also reportedly blocked by parking in container vessel across the coach straight on joined now by Bennie SOGA research at the center for security studies at eight t h Zurich Begnaud how shore are we about? What actually happened today? So the events that you just spent. Fatty spiteful confined because. Footage showing those incidents that you mentioned. Both Russia chipsets by this from Ukrainian chips in both and selves why we actually see how this big a Russian coastguard a navy ship, actually, rammed one of these three Ukrainian navy ships as well as intercepted to two of this. So you've been so fairly confirmed. But obviously, the you to picture is heavily disputed between the two countries will the wind to picture is the tricky bit in among the tricky bits of painting, the wider picture is trying to figure out whether this seems like something that was ordered from on high or is likely the result of somebody on the ground getting some carried away, which is, you know, not unusual in such circumstances. Does it look like something that was ordered from Moscow? Or does this look more like a a local command to making a decision? Very hard to judge from without having these insights. But I think these events last night yesterday fit a pattern over the past few months, actually, so how it all started when Russia and next Crimea Crimean seventy land connection was train. So power supply as well as water supply was from Ukraine because there was no no connection to the Russian mainland and Russia to change that in this project to build this bridge of the coach straights, which it has done in in record time. It costs billions of dollars, and what's a huge propaganda project as well. Hooton was in the first lorry to cross this bridge and to find any connect Crimea with Russia physically as well as symbolically. And so this bridge now connects the Crimea with with Russia has this very deep meaning and since spring when h was established Russia's very much, that's an intercepting all kinds of Ukrainian vessels trying to cross this narrows fate from the Black Sea to the sea of. Which borders half of Ukraine's coastline. Actually. So there has been all kinds of harassment will can won't don't you of Ukrainian vessels, both mentioned vessels as well as navy vessels. Whether we're regular inspection by Russian trolls that was jamming of GPS, and there were delays of giving the right to pause these straits, and it was very much a matter of time until some kind of esscalation of this kind would happen at some point. Because obviously there is this structure of a bridge that Russia's also concerned about in baby attacked, maybe Yemen. So it has used this. This physical obstacle. Jakarta block and inhibit Ukraine and trade, which is quite eastern Ukraine, and these areas with two fell importance fourths of Mario and another one at the C Ovezov Maria poll is obviously extremely important Ukraine. In fact, president petro Persian coup has said today, I think I'm writing saying that twenty five percent of Ukraine's exports steel, leaving the port Russia has of course today demonstrated that it can basically seal off the sea of as of if it uses too. But is that really a long term plan? Russia is there anything to be gained by Russia for sustaining that indefinitely are they likely are they planning to assert territorial claim to any more of Ukraine, and they already have. That's all visited crucial question. Many think the the coming few days it will be quite telling to show whether there was just a short term esscalation and a bit of saber-rattling, and there will be de-escalation afterwards. Maybe follow up international pressure is Russian Maynor tab, these long lasting long lost. In claims. What I think is certainly the case this time Russia uses the this area to once again, we can Ukraine economically because it's important for trade and supplying the region of eastern Ukraine that is controlled by the government is certainly certainly the case. But whether Russia wants to block and straits definitely that is failure. Like also think Russia does not have that much to gain from such an escalation of tensions. So we'll have to see in in in the following few days. How things develop at the MoMA. Yeah. That's a look at them predictability to the situation is very worrying that we have the first open confrontation between Russian and Ukrainian military vessels. If all we have not had that we always had is deniability of we all knew that were Russian troops in Crimea, went escalated in two thousand fourteen as well as in the Dombass in eastern Ukraine to this day Russian servicemen assert in both. But they keep claiming this deniability that they're not officially involved. Now have their best official flags that crash the Saturday NASCAR nation, then that is the difference. You quite right. But that notwithstanding is this arguably of a piece with previous Russian policy that you numerator, which is just being a continual process of trying to find out what the limits of international tolerance of the behavior is because obviously at a basic level what the Russians appear to have done today is pretty. Outrageous. If we go back to first principles Crimea, of course, is legally Ukrainian territory Russia took it by force. It's orchestration of Crimea is not recognized by anybody. The Ukrainian ships were there for entirely within their rights to be sailing within those waters is this Russia. Just basically seeing what it can get away with. Well, absolutely. This is certainly fitting the pattern it Russia has shown in the past few years, and is very very open the observing how the west reacted be the European Union the United States as well as an countries in in western Europe's themselves. I think you mentioned it like kind of lone goal. There is a don't think that's the territory claim to any of these of this show the territory, but certainly Russia is trying to see how far they can go, and showcasing that Ukraine is incapable of protecting its its own borders. It's incapable of supplying its territories. That are ordering the buzzer. I think if it's a pattern as well. Kind of showcasing that Ukraine is is a not a failed state that's close to that as in unable to function as a state and Russia has he's not paying a very heavy price at the moment with these continue them escalation, even though it is absolutely violating treaties in two thousand and three Ukraine and Russia bilaterally agreed that is internal waters of both countries. So the freedom of passage for vessels from both countries. It's certainly declined in it. Lou. And with this kind of provocation, even though Russia district lanes Ukraine, the sending militia vessels and the first phase they showed that they are once again willing to reach into national law. We'll see how far they get what we cannot really assess at the moment is how the Russian public will will respond to that. Whether they will endorse this show force or whether they will see it as a distraction from internal struggles from economic worries and so on. Begnaud zogu. Thank you very much for joining us. You're listening to the daily on monocle twenty four. This is the daily with me, Andrew Miller UK Prime Minister, Theresa may has today been defending her proposed Brexit deal to a house of Commons, which sounded other than entirely convinced. The deal was agreed to by the rest of the EU with what seemed to many suspicious heist this past weekend MP's will vote on the deal on December eleventh after he shed jeweled five days of debate. Which will mean about foreign a half days of opportunity to quote, the MU dole line about everything has been said. But not everyone has said it. It seems unlikely may can win vote on her deal. It is unclear what happens if she does not I'm joined now by joylin Decaux columnist with the Evening Standard. Joy Theresa seems avoid Theresa May's seems of late. I don't know that we'll Theresa May seems of late to have been pursuing something of a masochism strategy of which this was apart. She has apparently strapped to Sophian for nationwide to to try and sell the deal. Whatever else he may criticize her for a lack of capacity to absorb punishment is not among them, very pleased that you have by her first name because she needs a little the French. She is doing very best to kind of essentially pulled over parliament into the country. She's trying to do a she's going to be a national tour selling her Brexit to the people. Some phoned memories of that coach around the country with three hundred fifty fifty million on the back of it as trying to do the same. She's cooling ATV debate. With Jeremy Corbyn, the leader of the labour party such an irony when she called an election twenty seventeen she desperately didn't want to do that. But where do you go when you parliament, including qual members of both sides of your own party? Look like they're going to vote down the deal that you've spent eighteen months working on. This is a piece to be where we are now at she has this deal, which she says, a suspect probably correctly is the only deal there is a view certainly reiterated by the EU who I'm sure very nearly as bold with this whole thing as we are taking fat salaries for negotiating it. That is true. That is a fair point nonetheless they'd be getting paid anyway. So if this does not get up or she can't get this passed the house of Commons does the started out as a faintly sort of absurd exercising wishful thinking sometime ago, the people's vote or second referendum is that starting to look like it's not actually impossible. It is not actually started about a year ago is an idea it gradually solidified paper was written about the possibility of it happening. And then the question is how do you get people's vote onto the official agenda now in order St. this parliament needs to vote for it? And it can either do this by by separate motion somebody bringing forward what is more laid happens. It's going to be tagged on as an amendment to an existing piece of legislation. So parliament will only Paul such and such if it is I put to a vote to the people. Now. See neither side is that she calling for this of the front bench of either slider. She calling for this the moment yet. But the arguments city on either side to begin come stronger and stronger that people's ATC only way out of the deadlock that is preaching pretty fast. The trouble is will there are several troubles. As I understand it one is that there's no way at all. This can happen before March twenty ninth which is when by matter of law, the United Kingdom leaves the well, I think I think something like the electoral commission needs about thirteen weeks to put together any sort of public vote with the questions or correct and say that puts you roughly by March the twenty ninth a little bit of a headache on them on the calendar to start now, and then going to so that can't happen unless somebody wants to spend or rescind article fifty say if we decided to have a people's vote the e twenty seven light it say. The we all extension now. The each Woodson's already said, we might give you a micro extension. If we get them say we're going to get back to the people either through an election or through people's vote. The twenty-seven little must be obliged to say. Of course, he must fully democratic prices. So we would get an extension on that March twenty nine deadline. Not right, then not potentially more likely route to people's vote may can't get this thing through the Commons at which point. She will probably have to resign at which point. They will probably be well, they would certainly be new Tory leader who may then feel obliged to engineer general election. If you then have a labor party deciding that it is electorally advantageous to put their hand up for a people's vote. Does that make is this a likely route? And I just think back my maths classes at school where you had to multiply two-thirds probabilities by one third probability by a quarter. See what was going to happen? You've made a series of the summit. One thing. I would say Theresa May's fairly displaced. She may well, not resign. But there are a whole series, of course of actions that are gonna get through parliament. Now if deal gets blocked where yes, it's perfectly possible that label launcher votive no-confidence government is perfect trees may trae rich confidence we get to deadlock. But the one thing that can save also these allegations he's just saying we'll get back to the people. Nobody can actually decided this point in time. Just for fun though. Mrs my big reservation with going back to the people. And I I have talked about it in various other programs. It would be in keeping I think with the way the last few years have been that you go back to the people and you come back with the result, which is remained on a small majority in the original Lee vote on a small turnout. O- hilariously. We end up at fifty forty eight leave remain at which point we've ripped apart for two years, and we're still going to get through exactly the same place. The polling at the moment is showing much more significant remain majority relief and the other launch they have the polling from twenty sixteen. She knew what the question is too. And they know what they lectures, which they didn't do what it wasn't twenty sixteen. So we think this polling is more accurate to really get a definitive vote at this point needs. Needs to be more like sixty forty and we're not quite there yet. But you raise also there another interesting point, which is what is the question going to be. I I have rate at least one clear lunatic suggest in fact, two referendums that we forget which way round they go to go one is do we stay or do we go? And then second if we decided we're going anyway, do we go into resumes terms, or do we just won't soften see what happens? I think my favorite suggestion on this is from somebody John worth on Twitter who said we should have a question, which is leave will remain do an on the remain own leave heartbreaks, self Brexit. But then to equal it out on leave, shall we do a soft remain very own remains. We just suffer minoshe. We do hard remain. Should we go into your issue? We go into Shang, and we just go the full the full wack is a Sarkic octopus. We can just get this for once. And for all I can. I think if you put the question on the referendum paper, would you never like to hear the word Brexit again? I think you'd get a massive majority in this country. You would get fumbling cross party cross Brexit remain leave whatever support for that. Just finally, then what actually are the next steps whipping promised this substantial vote is the word they using on December eleventh, which actually isn't that far away. What is going to happen in the next couple of weeks? Well, as I say, this is now a series of probabilities the chance the moment is Theresa May's going to lose. But she has incredible ability to be quite persuasive, ever parliament. When that goes cool is going to try for an election through parliament through version of confidence. He's very unlike its get it conservative party will back her which point she is left standing there with the deal that she's negotiated this failed. But a conservative party seems to be supporting her, and then we get to a complete right block. And that is the point. I think everybody still saying. The efter, and I gather people within labor party now saying after as well. For I t-. We gauge people's right? Barry mind has not been has gone for the mill of conversations so people's that might well happen as an easier way out lots to look forward to. Join the deco thanks as always for joining us. You're listening to the daily. UBS has one nine hundred investment analysts from over one hundred. Hundred of the shop is freshest thinkers in the world of finance today. No one. No one knows. Contact us at UBS dot com. You are listening to the daily on monocle twenty four now. Whatever of the complaints, the g twenty leaders may have when they arrive in Buenos Ayres for the organization's latest summit later this week a lack of things to talk about what we've one thing and another will not be among them. It remains to be seen. However, whether they will find much common ground onto the most crucial subjects likely to come up trade and climate change. Not least because we're both the concerned the president of the most powerful g twenty nation appears to be perating from an entirely parallel reality joined with more on this Vincent mcilvanney UK correspondent for EuroNews NBC on the subject of trade. Vincent, there's of course, today's news from General Motors five plants to close fourteen and a half thousand jobs to go is that likely to focus Donald Trump's thinking, do we think vis-a-vis his trade war? I think it will do because Donald Trump's seen speaking in the past hour. He's been tweeting General Motors telling them to open new factories and he's being. Working as he was going into the helicopters. Well, work does take. Take. Gave actual come sation there. He's also dropped Theresa May in saying. That's Brexit, dill means that the US can't do trade deal with the UK in his mind. So perhaps his mind is getting a little bit focused on trade over the next few days. But yet he is heading into this t twenty in which I'm going to be covering and the state today aims of the meeting on trade and own climate change. But really when you're still pursuing hard America first policy, and you signals at the last g twenty that you're going to pull out of the parse cord, then it's going to leave them in a pretty difficult situation. We'll talk about climate change shortly because Trump has today being unburdening himself of some of his thoughts on that subject as well. But to stick with trade for the moment in an ideal world, e one, you know, Brahman operated by the broadly sign what would be agreed. In the in. Thank you escape. Brexit is going to be one of the things that is going to be up for discussion about what happens to the K. If it crashes out without a deal on WTO rules. Do those rules needs to be looked at will happen to the global economy. Will it creates a shock equivalent to two thousand eight of very different circumstances? But threes amaze going on this tour in the next couple of days around the UK. She then though crucially the morning show. She leaves for the two g twenty meeting she appears in front of the select committee, which is the affairs committee. That's the head of all this let committees she's going to be absolutely grilled by the best MP's in parliament about this deal. And about today, she had a whole cabinet meeting, which wasn't about glorious new trade deals in the e- having given this deal. It was all about the no deal treaning. So she's going to be absolutely grilled on this and she's going to arrive in front eras, and she's going to be there for two days, and she's going to be in a position where she's going to be trying to have bilaterals with. Other leaders. They haven't given us the list yet who she will be talking to to try and get some more deals lined up afterwards. Liam Fox is also gains Israel this week to try to do some deals with Israel to have those in the pipeline as well. But really people are going to be saying, well, we can see the parliamentary meth it's not gonna work you'll deal with e you so we need to start making combinations for the rest of us because we just be the EU that's affected by new deal. It will bleed out into the wind global economy, but we should move on into climate change a subject which threatens to render all other such worldly concerns fairly relevant. We have of course, seen the release in the last few days of the fourth national climate assessment by the United States government. And when I say that we've seen the release of it we've seen it buried today off to thanksgiving. Donald Trump has today just said, I don't believe it must be a sort of actually pleasingly relaxing way to be able to view the world. But is. Is everybody else? G twenty. Luckily to have taken at least slightly more. Seriously. I think they will have done. I think what's interesting is. If you look at what's happened since the last g twenty Donald Trump went to Germany last year and said, we aren't going to you know, he wouldn't agree to the cable. He said the U S was going to leave the Paris deal. He tried to insert clauses. Saying that the US would support other countries coming into clean coal technologies. Now, if there is really such a thing as clean coal. Those are the people that Donald Trump gets the votes from it home, the coal miners in Virginia and people that that swamped him in twenty sixteen said the word out of what is at the moment is that the draft Texas being prepared this afternoon has a very watered down version of what has previously been agreed which has been the full backing for Paris and making sure those targets are on track. Now that doesn't seem to be in there, it looks as though the US is trying to exert some influence on it. But also the other. May be wanting to get him onboard with the deal because he went to the g seven in the so man, he refused to sign the cable then left that meeting and slammed. Everyone had pretty harsh words for Justin Trudeau after that missing. And what's interesting is what will happen in the calculation after this g twenty because after the last meeting the EU and hard on its diplomatic efforts with the bricks nations. It kept them on side got China to ready double down on its commitment to not going above the two degree change, which the Paris agreement was meant to enshrine. Now, the US report in one published today by the UK says that the moment we're on track for five percent so five degree by the end of the century. And if you look at the twenty actually fifteen of the twenty countries in the last year have actually got their emissions go up. So there is not just America that's being difficult this, but the new calculation off this she twenty isn't just Trump saying this that he's not going to back it. It's also both an hour the new president of Brazil because he is being taken by the current president. They change over hasn't happened yet. And he said that he doesn't support the Paris deal. He is someone who's looking at doing more looking and he is someone who's wanting to ignore this. Then when you've also got Brazil pulling out of this deal, potentially will then where does it leave the lights of China? They say, okay. Well, we agreed last year when it was just Trump when we thought he was just gonna maybe have four years. I mean, see what happened. The now with Brazil is the whole thing start to unpick and how will that change the nation afterwards? What else you looking forward to? Indeed. Well, I think Italy interesting. The crown prince of Saudi Arabia will be turning up say we'll see whether he's confronted about Jamal shaky. Whether that's as it's header toll. There is also think this issue possibly of the Argentineans raising the folk Linda islands as they do like to time to save Russell, I think particularly after Spain has run into this roadblock with Gibraltar over the past couple of days at the the position in Argentina since the Brexit vote has been that will be easy supports the UK's position on the Falklands Ireland as the UK as of member of the EU, but once it's broken off. Can they pick off some support? Can they get some countries to back their position on it? Because Spain is facing the same kind of issues around sovereignty of Gibraltar. So I think we might see that flare up on trees a main. I think we'll see whether it's reason may she doesn't tend to do well on the optics these big summit. She often. Sort of looks quite awkward. She walks out to step. She's looking different way. She's often photographed on her own which doesn't help the number ten team. They get really annoyed about these photos. So we'll see how well to reason. And they fez, but we'll say angle Merckel now that she signalled h- departure as she is much as a commanding figure in the room. She had been because of course, once you start the clock on your departure the power just naturally EPs away. Vincent mcilvanney. Thank you for joining us. You listening to the daily here are some of the other stories we're following today. Nasa has successfully landed. It's insight probe on the surface of Mars touchdown earlier this evening on at least plenty a flat plain close to the Martian. Equator insight is far from the first human built Croft to have landed on Mars, but will be the first dedicated to explosion of what lies beneath the planet's surface, the is to develop an understanding of the structure of MAs. And compare it with what is known about earth. It has taken insight seven months to reach Mars its final descent, so a decelerating from NIU twenty thousand kilometers analogy to a dead. Stop in just under seven minutes. Mexico has deported. Nearly a hundred Central American migrants who attempted to storm Mexico's border with the United States. The migrants were part of the so-called caravan that much feared phalanx sold before the US midterm elections is terrifying threat, and forgotten about shortly after the last vote was caused US officials confirm that forty two people who did make it across the border had been arrested others. Including children were deterred with tear gas launched by American bodyguards. And in a deeply confusing moment for diplomatic metaphor north and South Korea have worked together successfully winning recognition of traditional local form of combat. Unesco has accepted a joint bid by Pyongyang and Seoul for world cultural heritage status for Korean wrestling known as serum in the north and cerium in the south and apologies to everyone on both sides of the demilitarized zone for the pronunciation, it appears something of a step forward. A few years back the two careers each filed separate bids on behalf of the own kimchi careers staple pickled cabbage both were eventually successful. This is the moment daily. You're listening to the daily on monocle twenty four the cross hatch. Patch of streets known as SoHo here in London has inspired many artists throughout its life. And it has worn many reputations from CD Beck water to shopping mecca. So ho- serves as the backdrop of a new film, postcards, from London in which the real thing has been swapped for neon lit reimagining Monaco's Fernando, Augusta per Sheku asked the film star Harris Dickinson and director Steve MacLean. Why SoHo carries such inspiration for them? I wanted to make a film about that's disappeared. Actually. It's changed beyond new recognition. I think in the lowest fees become quite gentrified. And I wanted to try and capture guess, it's my love letter to a SoHo this disappeared. But I didn't want it to be like a real. So to be this imaginary space that the character, Jim and the other people in the film. What they imagined. So to be like, so it's very stylized. It's almost like a dream of sofa. You know, Harry's. You you're from London might so what's your connection with so ally coming what does? Yeah, I am from on from kind of the outskirts of east London and also area where you know, it's close to the SoHo. But if it was supposed quote, disconnected in in San census, so the same relation to Jim where is that need to explore the say that you live in you know, stone's throw away. But it's a it's a train ride away. You know, this this place of intrigue, and when you're young boy, it's a place to go and learn like galleries and shows and music and on food. It's epicenter frit wherever you are in the country. I guess so I guess that was my connection to SoHo and then that translated to the characters well because it was like this longing for more. And Stephen I notice them in correct me if I'm wrong, but the film is very much about beauty as well. I, you know, physical beauty about view of art. Is that correct? It's about a young man's discovery of discovery of like minded, people discovery of the city. So it's about all of those things, and it was just important for me that the film itself looks quite beautiful in a stylized way. It's not about realism. It's about trying to capture reality. It's about the beauty of an imaginary place. I guess and did you feel it in a in a studio, right? We filmed it in an old Fisher on an army base strangely enough. So the whole thing is apart from the opening sequence. When Harrison's will Kansas of the whole thing is showing and the end. Question you've done also, the excellent beach rats, so you've done now to Queiroz as an actor d I it is changing. There's less of a stigma for an actor to do roles like this. How do you feel about that? In is an interesting one because I think as soon as you start categorize a film based on it, then goes into a whole different conversation. I think myself looking role is always different to me in any circumstances. Always whether it be sexuality or circumstances. It's always far removed from who. I am. So I guess is the element of it. Then it's just another factor in that role. I guess I don't know. I mean, the only important thing is to represent correctly and respectfully and accurately as well. I know the curios to reading less film, postcards for America's from. Ninety four those quite a big gap. What you up to in? What made you want to return to cinema, but didn't work in the business anymore? I wrote a couple of things, but maybe just wanted to come back with this. I think it was good to come back. Actually. It was nice phenomena Augusta. Oh, speaking to the star Harris Dickinson, the director Steve MacLean of the new film postcards, from London out in the cinemas around the UK. Now, you're listening to the monocle daily. Do stay tuned. This week's episode of our design program monocle on design looks at how we can make the most of underused urban spaces through clever homebuilding early this month, Swiss Boone, San Francisco based designer Yves Behar announced a line of smallish easy to erect drillings to in gardens or other underused areas in spice, stopped Californian cities. The ideas that these fuss-free shows can create additional living room for elderly relatives or moody teenagers desiring a little privacy. Monaco's death Nikon eases spoke to the design of behind these customizable, prefabs to find out more the AD you the living home prefab. Sometimes also called tiny home is addressing the opportunity. Now that we have in California to build another building a second unit. The second building in our backyards, and this is a law that was signed recently by governor Jerry Brown with. Intent of increasing housing stock and increasing density by using land that's already in use. That's only used for single residents. Do you think that this is an idea that people will readily take on board is that already a need for it? Let's kind of target market that he had in mind and other any cultural norms that need to be surpassed in order for this to become popular. The AU is the full name is excessively dwelling unit, but it's nickname is granny flat. So there is clearly a need for additional housing in California. The density here is very low compared to European countries especially England where where you have very high density. That means that housing has become awfully expensive in places like Los Angeles, San Francisco Sacramento and the need to increase housing stock in to increase density is. Driving this. But I also believe there is a real human need, which is for people to have closer when needed. So whether it's grandparents whether it's kids post college, whether it simply, you know, more people with neighborhoods, this new law really allows for fast tracking of permits and is really a boost to the concept that's been around, of course of prefabs of homes that are prefabricated in a factory. And so in the case of living homes and our work with them. We really optimized the prefabs that we've designed for this use case, which is backyard unit on already built land was technology that you've used to as you say up to Mayes them was the technology behind the prefabs and the specifications. It's an interesting concept because on the one hand it's prefabricated at a factory very much like a product that is designed and manufactured in factory, which means that the fish. Are are incredible. The amount of waste that's created. In construction is tremendous and construction creates a lot of the pollution both environmental pollution, but also pollution that the neighborhood suffers from no as dust and a lot of extra materials that have to be cut on site. And then thrown away our system of construction in a factory reduces the amount of waste by eighty percents. It allows for the building to be constructed entirely, including plumbing electricity, h vac systems. Everything is built and so takes about six weeks in the factory. And when it's delivered it said stolen one day. So imagine how less reluctant your neighbors would be when you tell them you were about to start a construction project, but the disturbance will be a day. And know, I think this is the challenge is to both create something that. As practical for the homeowner. But also that fits within the neighborhood. And in what ways are they customizable. What kind of factors can be changed because obviously people have different preferences as well. What's really interesting about manufacturing something in a factory and at the same time a product that needs to be highly adaptable to different needs and different sizes is there's a bit of a dichotomy there. Right. You manufacturing something that needs to be high efficiency, high throughput and at the same time you wanna make it really adaptable to people's needs. So we built a system which has all of the structural elements inside of the building envelope, which means that it allows for both internal layout. That is very flexible. You can have a large kitchen or smaller kitchen can have a bedroom. Two bedrooms three bedrooms, you can modulate really the internal configuration. And then you can also modulate the amount of light and privacy that you desire because a backyard is more constrained environment than typical virgin land. You have more shadows do defenses and other buildings. You also have more privacy issues. You may want to be shielded from one side and open to other sides of the building. And those conditions are going to be very different in different neighborhoods, and based on your neighbors. So the high level of flexibility is structurally available mixed with the efficiencies of of factory. And there's the kind of variations that you typically don't find in prefab buildings. You know, a lot of the ones I've looked at are very much a one-size-fits-all hours can go from two hundred square feet to twelve hundred square feet. We have the ability to have a slightly taller building with a clear storey clear story is set of windows that are between. The roof and lower windows or portions of the building and that allows for light from high up to enter the building in a way that is also private, and then we even have pitched roofs, you know, roofs that are adapted to different climates. No or simply roofs that sort of fit into a more traditional neighborhood or that also enable loft area on top of the first floor. So this level of variance and choice is really what makes you know, living homes system that we've developed a really unique when exactly did the launch we launched them about two weeks ago to in Los Angeles. What I think is important to note about tiny homes prefabs is that's they're very sustainable solution. Not just based on the fact that they're smaller or that the use modern insulation, we have the ability on on ours to have solar panels. But also that they're very sustainable construction method. Because of built in a in factory the efficiencies that use materials allows to really cut down on the impact of construction significantly. So, you know, the culture of these new types of buildings and construction is highly efficient and highly sustainable, which I think is a great solution in the world that we live in today that was the design eve behalf speaking to Monaco's Daphne NASA's for the full interview. Tune into a weekly designed show monocle on design nineteen hundred London on Tuesday. You can also find all the episodes by subscribing to the podcast or you can catch up with them. Anytime you like on our website. This is the daily. UBS global financial services firm with over one hundred fifty years of heritage built on the unique dedication of people. We bring fresh thinking and perspective to work, and we know that it takes a marriage of intelligence and haunt to create lasting value for. It's about having the right idea, of course, about having one of the most company systems and unrivaled network of global experts. That's why EBS we pride ourselves on thinking smarter to make a real difference. Tune in weekly to the bulletin with UBS, bro. The neatest insights and opinions from UBS and experts from around the world. It's time now to take a look at the newspapers we're joined once again by Michael Beulah lecturer in comparative politics at university of London. Michael welcome back to the show. We start with the Asia Times. This is the latest I guess extraordinary corruption scandal Malaysia is now saying it wants four point five billion dollars out of Goldman Sachs. Why do they have a chance of getting it quite interestingly as you pointed out, we've talked about this a couple of times before this is an escalation of previous demand start the Malaysian government dismayed made I think last time we spoke about this on this show. We talked about how basically Malaysia asked Goldman Sachs four six hundred million US dollars in fees. And now they have upped that demands to for print five billion US dollars. They're basically think they're having a stronger case. No because former. Goldman Sachs employees. Tim Leissner who used to be the director for southeast Asian affairs in Singapore for Goldman Sachs is about to enter a plea deal with the department of Justice into United States where he basically say dot management senior management of Colin sacks, basically was aware of this being a fraud from the very beginning. And so two Malaysian attorney general now thinks that they have very strong case in basically see damages up to four point five billion US dollars. Where do they eventually get it? I'm not sure. But certainly if you look at business reports today in the US report came out that estimated that the liabilities of quote, mistakes, probably range around one to two billion US dollars. We should pay close attention to that moving along slightly to the new mandala. This is also a Malaysian story. It's an extremely technical densely argued Malaysian story about. New possible new electoral system for new Malaysia what's wrong with the one? They currently have as this place sees it as his story to excite political scientists more than any other people, basically, it is about how Malaysia first-past-the-post system, which is basically a winner takes all system or a single member district system where basically just one candidate can win per Illich floral district has the same as we have here in the right exactly which has which is because they I mean because it used to be a British colony. Of course, that's the kind of system they have introduced. But basically means that one person per electoral district winds and all other votes are basically lost. And so the article argues how independent has basically radicalized ethnic divisions. You remember, of course, Malaysia st- yo- departure system in south East Asia has basically ethnic based parties. And so if really now the kind of political changes we've seen in. Malaysia will have to be in some way, institutionalized and consolidated I think at some point electoral reforms really need to happen. And so two article basically talks about whether it's very likely we're not that basically the country moves away from the first-past-the-post system and would adopt a proportional representation system, which basically give more power to minority groups, which is the way to go. If you have a racially diverse an extra as Malaysia as moving along to the Jakarta Post. This is an interesting boy, which I mean horrifying story about this. This might be the worst idea ever heard of in my life the launch of a mobile phone app. Allowing members of the public to report beliefs that they consider to be misguided or heretical what could possibly go wrong. Yeah. And also, I mean so Indonesia's going into an election season. And so we have seen a. Couple of stories like that delays couple of weeks. But what is really shocking about this story here is that this is not some, you know, fringe Richland Lanta group came up with that up for it was actually launched by the car to prosecutor's office. So this is an official government apt, basically, no allows Indonesians to report as you said beliefs or practices of police, they deem heretical. And so civil society organizations have spoken out against that kind of amp. But since this is a government I initiative it's Ripley here to stay as of today. You can you still download it on Google play. And on the app store on apple is is there an app available or is someone going to develop which enables you to report grandstanding political officials from making completely idiotic suggestions or corruption rate than so usually unfortunate these apps are for some reason available under apps store. Yeah. It is up -solutely end entirely horrifying moving along finally to the South China Morning post. This is a terrific color piece from Manila, I think originally credited thrones press, it's it's an extraordinary insight into life in Manila, really an an beautifully reported. But this is the the phenomenon of the trolley boys, which is these kids who pushed metal cots along railway lines, which obviously also used by actual railway ESO apparently in between trains. You have these homemade push cards that basically are put unto Railtrack's by these truly boys, and then basically for a fee transport passengers from one point to another. And so the article here is about how actually this is actually extremely dangerous. And so it has a couple of really amazing quotes from people that are using that system, and basically describe how into beginning they were just really scared, but now to transport is basically to transport systems. So inadequate did his main way for them to commute to work, for instance. And so an amazing statistics here, basically Manila's population grew by fifty percent over the last twenty years, however to transfer system has remained exactly to say. That's then of course, way through which entrepreneurs basically take advantage of that fact. I mean, there are some amazing quotes from the commute is basically as one actually does says that on the one hand it takes an hour a day off her daily commute versus the possibility of being crushed to death by a locomotive, my favorite was the one who basically said that once she has to cross a breach in one of these push cards, but she can't swim. So every time she basically travels that way. She's a little scared. She made us try on. And so yeah. So next time you come complain about the cubed, and maybe just remember people in Manila to go through. Indeed. So Michael Beulah. Thanks as always for joining us. You are listening to the daily on. Monocle twenty four. And finally tonight on the daily the British film director, Nicolas Roeg has passed away at the age of ninety. He began his career as a cinematographer working on such films as Lawrence of Arabia, and Dr Varga before graduating to direct during directory directing with the nineteen sixty film performance. Starring Mick Jagger, roic would also go onto make walkabout in nineteen seventy one and the man who fell to worth starring David Bowie in nineteen seventy six, but it was the psychological horror. Don't look now released in nineteen Seventy-three. Gondal Tim timeless critical acclaim adopted from a short story. But deafening damore the film starring Donald Sutherland, and Julie Christie is widely considered one of the finest of its genre. Monica. Ben Ryland has this tribute. Listen to you. Play with to say. Pills. From its early scenes. The main protagonist of don't look now is a man of fact-based conviction. Joan backsta is busy working away with his family in the quaint British countryside on a grey drizzly day. He's dressed fitfully in a red raincoat plays outside the garden pond. Then as if by pure intuition, something alerts, John trouble outside. He's quick lands out. The window is soon followed by hells of grief sometime later, where transported to Venice where the grey drizzly weather seems to follow John backsta, and he's wife, Laura. The vast beauty of the city offers the devastated couple something to focus upon and while John busies himself with a restoration project at a church, Laura happens upon a pair of unusual women who claim to be psychics. I've seen. There of these will cues littered throughout this film. That hint at what might be transpiring beneath the rippling surface some elements of the plot appear to have taken place slightly out of time. While the city seems to be caught in an endless with a loop of gray, late, autumn, windy offerings. The sensible straight faced John Baxter is quick to point out that despite the heavy grief Wang down upon him. He doesn't believe in psychic, visions or supernatural tales. And yet, it's hey who is transfixed by repeated sightings over small child in a red raincoat. And it's he who attracts the unwanted attention of a local police inspector investigating a series of mysterious deaths. Nearly forty five years after its release director nNcholas rogues strange at chilly thrill, still resonates as a wonderfully effective film. They're all very few comparible titles that make such clever use. Ever use physicality as a plot device. Revelations all seeking ceiling dread, shots, beautiful old churches that quickly spin with a close up of a menacing goggle many have been taken by the great beauty the city of Venice. But no one quite as literally as poor John backsta. And after viewing don't look now, it's unlikely that you'll Etta travel. These canals on a windy autumn day with quite the same as. Monaco's Ben Ryland paying tribute to the classic film. Don't look now. And it's directed nNcholas. Rowe egg who passed away today at the age of ninety that is it for today's edition of the daily the show was produced by Daniel and Ben Rylander such as Daphne Chinese Gabriel. La Santi, Monet's stadium. It was George mcdonagh. The globalist is here. Eight hours from now the daily is back at the same time tomorrow, and we'll play you out with a further tribute to nNcholas roic. He with tried to remember from the soundtrack to the man who fell to worth, it's the Kingston trio. I'm Angela thanks for listening. Was loan. So. Green and gray.

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3 and Out - Mel Tucker Money Grab; Pac-12 Can't Hang; Player Eval vs. Development; Stafford's Dead Cap Trade Killer

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3 and Out - Mel Tucker Money Grab; Pac-12 Can't Hang; Player Eval vs. Development; Stafford's Dead Cap Trade Killer

"Announcing the year of Twenty Twenty Twenty Twenty Vision that is twenty twenty vision at the center to be exact. That's why we are giving you twenty percent off your twenty twenty with with design plus a free consultation and no interest financing. Call the center today at eight. Eight eight eight four four twenty twenty to get your twenty percent off. Islay sick or visit the center dot com to schedule your consoles online financing on approved credit see website for details some restrictions apply. What is going on everybody? It's me little cop and the serene out podcast want to. We're just excited at a slam like a Diet Mountain dew about an hour ago and I got the caffeine flowing through my body. Can't wait. I broke down every. Xfl Game and I'm going to prepare us for this weekend. I'm totally kidding. I would never do that in a million years. But actually there's some interesting stuff going on. Mel Tucker. I'm going to start with that. Mel Tucker going to Michigan State and the amount of money the reflection of what it meant to the PAC twelve. There was a really really good article on Rick Smith the former Houston Texans. Gm on the athletic by Dan. Pompei who can just write a hell of article. It was a really powerful article but there was something specific in there that stood out to me from a scouting perspective. And I remember when I worked in the League. Louis Riddick used to talk about it all the time. How teams is a poor job of this and it's just it's he was dead on with something we'll dive into that and then you know there have been two famous players that I've seen by like a local guy in their market. Kind of go viral on my twitter timeline. One of them was Khalil. Mack and the other was Matt Stafford. They were GONNA get traded. And I think there's something we need to discuss while talking about trays in the NFL and while we see them a lot more last year we saw L. Beckham trade which I think kind of falls under this category but we see a lot more at the trade deadline. There are certain trays that are just impossible. Factoring in financial situations in this thing that they call a dead cap. Meaning the money that even if you get caught the guy or trade the guy that you still in core incur as a franchise so we just need to pump the brakes because I love a good trade potential trade as much as anybody and I re tweeted the Matt Stafford was GonNa get traded last night at about ten o'clock while I was laying in bed but then I realized like John. You just you need to pump the brakes a little bit and then of course. We'll we'll go into my mom's on instagram. So we interact with you guys at John. Middlekauff is my instagram twitter. But my my on instagram or wide open. Ask Me Anything and we'll get you a question here on the pot and want one more thing I have. I'm sure a lot of you guys. Listen to this podcast on collins feed. I also have my own feed. Just three out John Middlekauff. You can type it in itunes and find it one thing. I'd like you to do if you like to. Show seems like a lot of you guys do get a lot of positive. Dm's leave a review on my specific handle. The John Middlekauff. It has a little microphone and my name. If you're not already subscribed it goes on both if you want to. You can just as the these shows go to to that feed and collins feed but just just go on there and leave a review that'd be greatly appreciated but let's start with Mel Tucker Colorado and Michigan state because it's kind of been the big football story of the week beside the cheating astros which is baseball story but I'd be down to talk a lot about them but I have done that enough on twitter Mel Tucker after he was hired. I think in December of two thousand. What's where we two thousand twenty? So he might have been hired right at the end of two thousand eighteen or he was a Colorado one season and he just left Michigan State this week and I want to start with just a quick exercise if we started five businesses from scratch in. And it's going to be hypothetical in an industry where they could succeed with. There was more than more than enough quantity of people to consume whatever product they were doing and they weren't GonNa fail and we just let them all for ten years the five businesses and we check back in ten years. I think it'd be pretty clear. The hierarchy of those five businesses more than likely one probably two of them would be highly successful in. This is for this exercise. Let's just assume high in business you can make a Lotta money. One or two of them would be crushing it. The other would be somewhere in the middle. They'd be surviving and one would be a train wreck. One would be a disaster just the way the world works. You know. It's just it's just a fact. When I was growing up all five major conferences. Now they were line a little differently but the PAC ten the big twelve the big ten the ACC and the SEC. And I was born the mid eighties so by the time I started watching football early nineties mid nineties late nineties you just turn on the TV and it'd be good games all over the country and you just on any given year. Oregon could compete for the National Championship. Texas Good Michigan Could Ohio State Could Alabama Georgia Florida like the same several teams but it was. It felt relatively equal. Just you had your two or three top teams in each conference and they were all kind of competing. That's no longer the case. We have two programs of the power five. They're on a completely different level financially than the other three in really Oklahoma in the big twelve and clemes in in the ACC help make those conferences somewhat outliers. Because they're both in shambles but those do conferences dominate like an SEC or a big ten school when it comes to money when it comes to funds and when it comes to winning then you've got the PAC twelve and Dan. Wetzel wrote a good article this week that we need to stop using the term power five. It's really like power to Oklahoma Clemson. And then the PAC twelve is basically. It's actually much closer right now till the mountain west than it is to the big ten or the SEC. Because when Mel Tucker took the job. And I'm not going to go into some moral high horror story about keeping the job. He did make a comment about. There's no transfer portal in the real world. Which is a stupid comment because there literally is. I mean the great part about America. You literally can quit any job at any moment. You can do whatever you want to do. I can't speak for every country though. I do know a good amount of countries like ask the NBA about China. You're not allowed to do whatever you want. In America I could just stop podcasting tomorrow and just go work in insurance go work at a restaurant. I do whatever I want. So can you. Now we might not choose to but we have those options so he can say whatever he wants. The players a player can't just leave it program. They could transfer that the sit out a year. We all know that I'm not going to go into some huge deep dive into that. I think Jay Bilas world have that market corner but he got his salary doubled and he got his coaching salary. Dell is coaching pool for his assistance doubled any also is not from the West Coast. He's from the Mid West Coast in Michigan State. So I get like you. Don't love a guy being a one and done from a power five again allegedly power five but I think it shows you because all I've heard from the pack twelve people Colorado was being fiscally responsible. I don't think you can be fiscally responsible with your football coach. You could be fiscally responsible with the swimming team with the men's baseball team but one comes when it comes to football there is no expense that the SEC or the big ten spares on their football programs they cut corners with programs but when it comes to football in most programs men's basketball they pay for every bill every stinking bill in the athletic program without those programs. You couldn't function because every other programs in the red in one issue. I think we're having out here on the West Coast are school. Presidents are consumed with everything but football the Olympic sports academics. And I'm not anti academics. But do you notice this and there have been studies and they talk about it all the time on the broadcast when you win it football. It's such a national televised and so many people are watching your enrollment. Goes up your competition to get into the programs increase and I think Callan. Ucla would say what we don't need that to get there right. They don't well. The problem is the money that the athletic program is generating because they're not putting into resources into the football program. Which is why these coaches. We've had coaches in the PAC twelve. And I say we because I'm a pack twelve fan but I feel like I'm the only got an island beating the drum gotta change because this is not working. Michigan state just came in in the blink of an eye doubled. The Guy Salary doubled the guys assistant pool and the do left a pack twelve job. It'd be one thing if he was at Colorado state or Fresno state like. Yeah I get it. He was a Colorado which produces pros couple of years ago they they won the PAC twelve south. Like it's a pretty good job but when they're only paying two point seven million dollars in Michigan State's GonNa pay him six million dollars. I get it but my question is why can't Colorado pay the six million dollars? You went on a coaching search. You believe in this guy. That's the cost of doing business in the industry. The problem is the PAC twelve isn't generating the money they don't have the ability to just snap their fingers and write a huge check where the SEC. And the Big Ten. Do it all the time because in those conferences when another school comes after their coaches whether they're in love with their coach. Listen most coaches aren't excitement. We understand that. But if you've got Dan mullins and you really like them. Then all of a sudden Penn state calls you gotta give them a raise cost of doing business and I feel like the PAC twelve operating like a mom and pop shop. We gotta be fiscally responsible. Well when the MOM and pop shop moves in to whatever building. They're moving into to run their business. The rent check matters them how much you're going to charge them in rent. When Google or salesforce or facebook moves into a building. They cut a years worth the rent. They don't care and right now the SEC and the big ten they don't care when it comes to football there is no check. They won't cut and in fairness like the ACC Florida state. Did it with Willie Taggart the big the big twelve? They've done it in Texas before. There are programs that will do it out here. It's like we can't afford to go the extra two million a year. What is two million a year extra for football coach? If you believed in the guy would you clearly did because you went on a natural search after having the same coach for six years? And you already paid him now. I'm not even some Mel Tucker. Fan even open everyone that I text within the NFL. That have been around really like him a lot. They think highly of the guy but my my issue is the PAC twelve if we keep going at this rate because clearly they are not making anywhere near the money of those two conferences because they have this television deal that no one can see. Their football programs are not winning enough. They're not going to you know they're not going to the college football playoffs. I think they've been there once in the last five years they're even in basketball like the SEC. Notice if you fall college basketball did you see the SEC? Like Auburn's got Bruce Pearl. There are like a top ten program. Georgia went out and paid five million dollars to Tom. Green when you went football and you conference Wednesday football it trickles down the other thing we love hanging our hat on out on the west coast well we dominate the Olympic sports. Swimming Soccer Lacrosse. Well what do you think Alabama's GonNa do in five years when they go? You know what? We wouldn't mind being good at women's soccer and men's swimming too well who's got the best coach Oh? Ucla well how much they pay the swimming coach. Ucla they pay him one hundred ten grant. How much does it cost you live in? Ucla A lot. How about we give him two hundred seventy five thousand dollars because we have an unlimited budget. They're not pinching pennies on the most important assets football and it constantly happens in the PAC twelve. Where it's like. Oh we can't afford to pay him that that's always the answer. Which if it was soccer or Lacrosse were men's baseball. I'd okay because someone tweeted a win on this tweet rant. Someone's like that doesn't sound like a good way to do business. If you're not being fiscally responsible yeah to non revenue generating entities but if it's your football program which like I said literally pays for every bill and every coach in every pair pair of shoes every basketball on campus. You better double down that area and I think the pack twelve right now is somewhat lost and understanding the power and the importance of football now there are elements that in the PAC twelve that don't parallel the SEC. There's a passion level down there that is unique it's basically the NFL light. And even the big ten. I also think a benefit that those two conferences have is their prime programs are tiny little towns right so it that matters Gainesville Starkville. Tuscaloosa is a bigger town baton. Rouge she's plays in the middle of nowhere aben dependence state. It's a tiny little town. I've never been to Ann Arbor but it ain't you know Detroit never been to Columbus. That might be a little bit of a bigger town but think of some of our big programs out West to San Francisco Palo Alto Berkeley Seattle Los Angeles. It sounds good in theory but it actually hurts and because it's so spread out. Those are pro towns. That's what that's what makes Oregon somewhat unique and you could argue over the last twenty years. They've been the most balance when it comes to winning it football and winning a basketball and they're also lucky Phil Knight went to school there and finances them like. It's the big ten but I was embarrassed by Mel Tucker. Leaving in the sense that everyone tried to justify. Well they were being fiscally responsible. Now let's just call. Let's call a spade. They don't have the money they can't hang with the big ten and that's as big a red flag as you can. You can get because it's only two thousand twenty. What's IT GONNA look like in five or ten more years as these the media and the dollars that are flowing in for television rights are growing exponentially while they're only gonNA keep doubling down on the big ten in the SEC because the efforts and the resources they're pouring into their own programs? So I don't really know what to say beside the PAC twelve might be screwed big picture. Some doesn't dramatically change soon. Here's the thing saving money with. Geico is almost better than playing pickup basketball. Because there's always that guy who joins your game. He never passes the rock. He constantly bricks threes. And who completely hack you? And then put his hands up and say no foul no foul with gyco. It's easy to switch and save on car insurance. No need to fake an sprain because you're absolutely exhausted so switch and save with Gyco. It's almost better than sports. Okay let's dive into something. Rick Smith the former Houston Texans. General Manager said in an article. If you subscribe the athletic it was written by Dan Pompei. It was really good. It was really good but he said something that really stood out to me. We spend so much time. This is about the scouting process the college scouting process. We spend so much time resources energy attention on draft evaluation. We have huge dodgers on these players. Where they're from how they learn personal lives. Social skill set scores history everything after the draft. All that information about the player we learned doesn't get integrated integrated into his on boarding. I think that's a mistake. You can onboard players in utilize all that information to put a plan together that gives them a chance to give them a better chance to be a better man better member of the organization and a better football player. There is a holistic approach to player development that we are missing and on boarding is just like integrating them in right. Usually when you're hired out of college there's just a process. A lot of people are hired to companies that they in turn with their senior year in football while you play football in college and then you're playing football in the pros where the football is relatively similar life. Dramatically changes in a huge curveball in pro sports unlike the real world most of us. I mean how my job out of college was twenty five thousand dollars with the Philadelphia Eagles. Hopefully yours was a lot higher than that. A lot of people sixty seventy eighty. Maybe now hundred depending on where you're working you get decent money super smart guy. Maybe you guys are making hundred fifty. I Dunno I made nothing but the reality is if you're taking a guy in the first couple rounds of the NFL draft you are paying him millions of dollars by take you in the of the first round. I'm John Middlekauff Middle Linebacker from Alabama and I get drafted to the Minnesota Vikings. They just get fifteen million dollars. Guaranteed when I sign it. Well you notice why for a long period of time the Alabama guys there was this notion like Alabama guys just don't transition well in the NFL because there is not an hour at Alabama three sixty five during the season and during the off season that you are not accounted for the only time you may have a little wiggle room. Wiggle Room is class. And if they're not super on you because you've proven that you can make it to class. They don't class checks and you could if you're smart you can sleep in. Nocco but other than that when it comes to your homework when it comes to your tests when it comes to your meals when it comes to your sleeping when it comes to practice their on your twenty four seven three sixty five in pro football even if you're a rookie wants training camp and the season starts you get to live just like all you know. Larry Fitzgerald gets a live show one Wednesday Tuesday off. You Win you get Monday off by Thursday or Friday. Days are shorter. You got a lot of free time on your hand. Imagine have a ton of free time and a ton of money not an ideal combination. John Baxter who was the special teams coach when I was at Fresno state used to say the worst thing in life is a young guy in discretionary inca. 'cause he's going to make poor decisions. I am just now in my mid thirties. And I've I've every year over. The last ten years have made more and more money kind of learning how to manage my money. Put some away pay the bills. What I can spend what I can't. It takes a long period of time to figure that out and I think what ricks missing and I remember Louis Riddick used to say this all the time you spend all this information like you're getting ready for the prospect that you're going to draft and then you finally do well. Most humans are not Peyton manning or Tom Brady did. They can just operate and do everything without having their hand held. Some guys need help. Where do I live? What do I do with my free time? What do I do with all this money? How do I balance? You know my mom's GonNa come stay with me or my GRANDPA or my cousin. Where do I get a car? I'm just talking basic stuff that can overwhelm people and I think a lot of times in the NFL coaches and is just focused on. What are we to do to win? What are we gotTA DO TO WIN? What we gotta do to win now. I'm not a big believer in holding your hand but if I'm going to invest twenty million dollars I have the tenth pick in the draft. Let's just going to pick a number. I think it's give or take somewhere around there. I better just just based on the financial resources on them giving to this individual and clearly if I'm GONNA draft him at ten what I think of them. I should probably hold his hand for a couple years or attempt to until he proves you know what and maybe by the first three or four months. You realize this guy's got it figured out. He's a high level guy. A lot of humans even mature humans. What are going to be overwhelmed. And I think a lot of times you just depend well. The vets will take care of him. And I'm not saying the vets don't take care of them but there is just an element and this is the difference between. I think pro indefinitely college but even college with the money coaches are making. They approach now more like pro football. There used to be a big connection with your position coach. And there still is in certain. Instances where you're you're pretty close to that guy and he can help you out. He can be somewhat of a mentor and I think that often gets lost in the NFL indefinitely from the scouting side wants the draft ends all the scouts. Just kind of move on you. Just start with the next crop instead of scout and I knew the guy that we draft third round again if you draft third round you still probably giving them a signing bonus four or five hundred thousand dollars. That's still a lot of money. You clearly liked him. Because you invested a top. I don't know eighty picking the guy and this guy might have a learning disability. Whatever I mean any piece of information that you accumulated that you knew before the draft and then it kind of gets forgotten and the dude is expected like. Why can't this guy cover the slot? Well I don't know he's overwhelmed in life right now. There was a lot going on. It can be really overwhelming. And you know me if you listen to podcasts. I'm not I'm not a big excuse guy but I do think there are specific things that you learn about a guy when you're scouting from the program like hey this guy coaches tell you this you know. This guy is not great at learning on the board. He's better learning on the field and then he's not good in the meeting room. But I'm telling you when the game starts he's able to take all the information and then by the middle of Training Camp. You're getting an email from your general manager like why can't this figure out what to do in meetings because we knew going into it and I think Rick Smith is dead on. I think the programs that do it right the information and I'm talking the specific information about the human being not the football because the football always gets figured out. Because that's what you're putting all your emphasis on. I'm talking about the person I'm talking about learning disabilities. I'm just talking about things. Not even learning disabilities. Just this guy. I am trying to even think of an example but people need help and people. There's a ton of pressure that comes along with rookie players that not everyone is equipped to handle it. Even guys that end up do it like doing it. It can be really really difficult and I would imagine programs like New England clearly New England. I think Seattle does a good job of it. I think the forty niners now with cow. Shanahan or do all the winning teams the eagles the chiefs when you look at losing teams and you see these players that are just like fighting for themselves. Young guys it's like come on. This has to be a group effort here and all the information and all the work you do in the scouting process just just needs to start getting factored in more. I mean these teams are are wasting all the resources that they spent for twelve months. Or maybe let's say that nine months you use getting ready for this player and then ultimately picking them and then you just end up disregarding it by the time the guy gets in your building. It just doesn't make any sense. Okay like like you guys. I'm not any different. I'm a sucker for good trade rumor. It's probably why I got into the business why I wanted to work in the NFL. I love transactions. Love drafts of draft day trades. Love Free Agency. Love Trades. Love it all. And that's why we all cool part about sports transactions adding players to your team this time of year with free agency right around the corner where we're reading a lot about this guy might be released. We've talked about cap cuts the guy that I saw the other day since the Since the early week podcast was Devante. Freeman I immediately tax. Cut My buddies and league in. They go yeah he's he's not he's shelve himself he's slower now. But you're going to see a ton of names like that. But you're also GONNA see some pretty famous guys like last year the big is owed. L. Beckham GONNA get traded couple years ago. Khalil Mack got traded now. That was in training camp still. We've seen some pretty big trades the last couple of years so I do take when I see a headline that says Matt Stafford is on the block. I re tweet immediately. Kind of like Whoa. And even I don't even think about it. I'm like sweet and then I realized got you got to take a deep breath. John what I do now is I google and I go to spot track where you can look at it players contract in basketball when I give steph curry five years. Two hundred million. I do stagger the money a little bit like year to year. He makes a little more every year. But basically it's thirty five thirty eight thirty seven forty one forty two whatever to add up to two hundred million Klay Thompson. Same deal and it's all it just spread out throughout the deal. There is no signing bonus. This is first year. He makes thirty five million by the second year. He's made sixty five million and it just keeps adding up so the way it works in baseball. Same thing I think they have changed baseball a little bit like some guys do. The escrow account where they get money later on. That's kind of been a new thing but still for the most part. Your money's your money in football that's not the case right. We see all the time like breaking news. It's going to happen when free agency stars trying to think of a place. Go Mark. Cooper Amari Cooper has signed a five-year hundred million dollar deal twenty million dollars a season. We're like Amaury got paid. The colts the cowboys. You know what we all Durham. Give HIM HIS BAG. And then it comes out. Well actually he did sign a five hundred million dollar deal on paper but there's only forty seven point seven million dollars guaranteed so like oh so. He basically signed a two and a half year. Forty seven million dollar deal because the way football works is the true guaranteed money. You make like Matt. Stafford's total guarantees. Were Ninety. Two million dollars so you take that ninety two million dollars and you pro rate it at the exact like formula over the life of the deal and it's usually more upfront. The true guaranteed like is true guarantee at signings like sixty million dollars so in his first year of that deal his dead Cap. If they were to cut him would have been seventy five million dollars a lot of money. So you're not going to cut a guy when it would cost seventy five million dollars on your cap but in two thousand twenty as of right now. Matt Staffers Dead Cap meant if they cut them or traded him meeting the bonus money. That has got amortize over. The deel would be thirty two million dollars while the salary cap is two hundred million dollars so think about thirty million dollars of two hundred be fifteen percent. It'd be like sixteen percent of the salary cap. You wouldn't trade a guy the not play on your team to be sixteen percent of your salary cap to play for someone else. It doesn't make any sense. It's actually cheaper to keep him his cap it so if he's on the team there's no such thing as dead cap because he's on your team but his actual cap it if he's on. The team is twenty one million dollars so you actually save over. Basically eleven million dollars but it's keeping them around and any time that you see a big name like this just go to the Internet Google contract I use Spot Track S. P. O. T. DOT COM. And you can just look at the numbers. Now when guy is why Derek Carr keeps coming up because they can get a dare car for like four million dollars once you get under you know six seven million dollars when the salary caps two hundred million dollars it's nothing you get under five million dollars dead cap thing about the salary caps two hundred million dollars talking like two and a half percent you can stomach that but when you're talking to thirty two million dollars and I know on Thursday Matt Stafford the GM and the lions came out and was adamant like it wasn't one of those like pr stunts. It was like this is insane and you know what he's I believe him because it makes no sense. That was part of the reason. The New York giants last year got nailed and got kind of took a Lotta Shit because I'm typing in. Odell to the to the website right now because last year I think Adele's dead cap money was I got them right here. So Dell's dead cap. Money was nine thousand nine hundred million dollars last year. Or excuse me yeah. Nineteen Million Dollars. That was on the the Cleveland Browns. The New York giants our camp. Actually it might have been higher than that. This might not be right. 'cause I remember reading it was higher net thinking about that they they paid a guy. It was good to just not be on their team. It really didn't make any sense if you're going to sign a human to a big deal and in football I'd say anything over thirty million dollars. Guaranteed is pretty big because once you get to thirty. You're immediately talking about two years. You're talking the first and second years. You can't trade them or cut them without taking a huge penalty on your own cap so this year when the when the free agency comes around and you guys getting thirty plus and obviously the good players get forty fifty sixty the quarterbacks get now one hundred one hundred twenty one hundred ten. You're stuck with those guys for a while and the good thing about the NFL. You really only do deals with four or five of those guys at team right in basketball guys. On a guaranteed deal. Same Baseball but in baseball. Mookie Betts Trade that just happen. You can do weird things right the Boston red sox eight half the contract and traded David Price in football. I can't eat my dead cap that caps they'd cap I can eat. Maybe some of the cap hit in the money. But I can't eat the dead cap that number set so whenever you see these names thrown around. It's not gonNA stop it's GonNa continue because that's just the world. We live in now on social media. Just do a double checking because I know I need to because I was like. Oh that's effort is not going anywhere. Hey guys it's bobby bones host the bobby bones show and I'm pretty much always sleepy because I wake up at three o'clock in the morning a couple hours. I get all my friends together. We get into a room and we do a radio show which are alive we tell our stories we try to find as much good in the world we possibly can and we look through the news of the day that you'll care about also your favorite country. Artists are always stopping by the hang out and share their lives and music to wake up with a bunch of my friends. I Ninety eight point seven. W M Z Q in Washington DC or wherever the rotates you on the iheartradio APP okay. Let's slide into some. Dm's favored NFL. Pot Me to please don't change a thing I won't. I'm achieves diehard and season ticket holder. This past month is easily. My favorite sports moment stretch my life. I have to say I don't blame you. I know you say you're out of the fan business. But what are your favorite game. You've seen to were ben favorite sports moment in your life. Yeah I mean I'm still a fan. I got a lot of joy. After watching coach. Read Win I got a lot of joy after watching the forty niners win the NFC championship game. Say my favorite pure moment pretty special ninety four ten year old kid when the niners won the Won The super bowl. Steve Young. Get the monkey off my back. Two thousand ten. When the San Francisco giants won the World Series? That was freaking awesome. Especially because I was living in Philly and the giants played the Phillies in the NFL. And Cody Roster Roy Halladay. Who was unhittable literally. I don't think gave up a hit in the a his first series or no hitter. And Cody Rossa. Two home runs off in that series. It that was bad ass. Yeah there's probably be the the top I was a big niners. Giants fan growing up basketball. Kinda bounced around. I was always a big. Ucla Basketball Fan. They haven't been good in a while. But I've always kind of been a horror as a fan. I just root for specific players that I like kind of latch. I've always been like that specific coaches that I like but growing up. I mean the niners and the San Francisco giants were massive. I mean they were. They were my life and then as I got football I mean I just. It's just not the same it just not. I mean when you get to know these people. It just changes. You know. It's hard to explain. Is Some people. Try to tell them. I don't think they quite get it. I obviously when I got into this just sports in general when I started doing it stuff in College. It was my life and my passion. But it's just it's rare that you are able to keep it like I still get a lot of joy out of watching games. My rooting interest just gamble a lot. But Yeah I mean the ninety four so young. They're probably there. Were some forty nine or moments when I was in high school. The Terrell Owens the game where he had the game winning catch against the packers that would have been like ninety nine. There are some playoff games in the early two thousands but then by the time like I got to Fresno state probably in the late two thousands it was just I thought about it a little differently so baseball is probably one baseball really is. I'm still big giants fan. That's the one team that I still. I know a couple people in the sport. But it's still kind of pure to me from a fan standpoint and that's why I'm so pissed off right now I gotTa Watch Gabe Kaplan I refuse and the dodgers are really good. Now I'll say this I still hate some teams that I hated growing up. I hate the Lakers. Though I I'm I'm not a Lebron hater but I hate the Lakers. I root for them to lose. I hate the Houston Rockets root for them to lose. I don't really hate the dodgers. Is there a college team? I hate? I'm not a big house state guy but I know people who went to Ohio state and I like them so it's like what am I hate and just 'cause sweet but I can I can understand. I mean when you when you're number one team wins the championship and for the chiefs. I don't know how old you are. But if you're thirty or forty and that's a long time you know. It's hell is a long time just to get to the championship game. So that's as a cool moment. You know you never forget that. I'm going to skip that question. Is there a scenario that you can see the colts signing a quarterback in free agency and Trading Jacoby back to the Patriots? Well THE SCENARIO WOULD BE TOM LEAVING THEM. Landing Philip rivers and the Patriots needing a quarterback so right. There Tom Leaves rivers goes to the indy. Jacoby goes back to to the New England. There's your scenario. I have a hard time seeing them trading in though because his cap number dead caps pretty big I think in a perfect world they signed Philip rivers and they keep. Jacoby is the backup. Maybe I'm crazy. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it'll play out a different way. But that's Kinda the way I envision it international listener here all the way from Portsmouth. Uk Portsmouth UK. Just wondered your take on a possible franchise moved to London. Should we get excited by the JAGS playing back to back games here? This year is a step toward them. Moving if not the jags. Which other team could be in the frame four move? I think it is the jags and I think a- borderline inevitable once you go back to back games. I my guess uneducated. I don't know anyone in the League office. I follow shied calms kid on twitter. He follows me but deemed on couple times. Never DMZ back. So it's not like we're friends. I would again completely no inside information. I'd go over under five years and I'd put it right about five years. The Jaguars are in London. The Jacksonville Jaguars Jacksonville markets. Too Small. Clearly they already have their kind of toes over there they gotta be making money. I think the League ultimately wants to go international. That's the team. You'RE NOT GONNA move Tampa. Glaciers have too much cash. You're not going to move the Atlanta Falcons. You'd have to have to team on the eastern seaboard. I Guess Buffalo may be but it seems like things are going pretty well. Their New England. No giants no jets no phillies. No redskins now. So it's just it's got to be the JAGS. Am I missing on Ford the Dolphins No? So it's the jags or bust. I don't even think there's another option. Hey John Lewis show keep up the awesome content appreciate it. My question is do you think the Bronco should stay with drew. Lock or do you think they will try to trade up for one of the top quarterbacks in the draft they just have to lock in the second round and he looked pretty good to end the season. I think one million percent you roll drew lock and you see what he's got this year. He's starting quarterback. Your defense should be good. You're you know you got. What's his name Bradley? Chubb coming back with Vaughn. I would imagine the defense is even better. Another year under FANGIO. You Pat Shurmur. I think you're equipped to be a really good team. Really good strong. Let me let me roll that back equipped to be a good team. You went seven and nine this year after a terrible start. What was it one in five one six. Why can't you be nine? Seven compete for a wildcard nine. Seven made the wild card this year. Ten and six division very good. Who's GONNA charges quarterback if Brady doesn't come might be hurt so that they might not be good. I mean they have a lot of talent. Chiefs are good. The raiders who knows. Why couldn't you finish? Second that division go nine and seven make playoffs long question here. Love the show. Long question. Incoming I see feel free to stop reading once you get to the gist of what I'm asking. I have always been curious about how scouts. Gm's in front offices evaluate the relative value of draft picks. How many third round picks is a first round? Pick worth if you could hypothetically give up a first amid first round pick to get to second rounders and two third rounders. Wouldn't that be more value for your team since said of getting one guy who of one of your top twenty players. You're getting four guys who you have in the five fifty to one hundred players. I get what you're saying. There's a thing that has been around since Jimmy Johnson. That has been in two thousand twenty. It's been updated every year but now most teams have an updated chart. They put a number value on on every pick. So let's just start. Hypothetically the number one overall pick is worth ten thousand points and then it starts working its way down till next picks worth ninety seven hundred and then you know ninety five hundred and then eventually starts dropping off big. It goes from like once you get from pick like twelve to fifteen. Go drops off dramatically. So you have to add up. If I'm getting two second round picks do they add up to the value. And that's kind of how most teams operate now. There is a tax. If you want my one or two overall pick you gotTA overpay for it right because I know you want a quarterback to if you want the tenth pick to get a tackle and you have a late first rounder and amid second rounder and it's give or take the value and I liked the value. I do it but if I have the number one overall pick and you want to. You have the eighth pick and you can meet the value. I'll give you the eighth pick. I'll give you my second round pick and I'll give you next first round pick. Well let's say the number one overall Beck and I liked Joe Borough but I don't need a quarterback but I have multiple teams bidding for it even if the offer that you I gave me two ones and a to what if I go you know what I'm GonNa need more 'cause trade him to someone else. I have a better offer on the table or hell. I'll just stay here and take young you. It's it's real estate. It's it's a ocean front property. There's only so much real estate there. And there's only so many quarterbacks in every draft and especially when I know that you like quarterback so I think there's a leverage game when you when you factor in quarterbacks when you factor in just a corner or wide receiver you just have to equal the number assuming that team wants to trade and I think a lot of the good teams that don't need. Quarterbacks are always open to trading for you know if I have the thirteenth pick and you'll offer me Tutu's in next year's one you know smart team will do that right again if if the values good and I have a bunch of highly rated guys in the top fifty five of the draft so I think it's also determined on what players are in a given draft like every draft is not the same this draft from just the naked. I watch a lot of I watch an unhealthy amount of college football and from my friends in the NFL is a really good draft. Feels like there's going to be a really talented. Like top seventy five so the difference between in this draft pick thirty in pick forty eight might not be that dramatic for a lot of teams. I go yeah. We'll get a starter at either spot so we might as well trade back and get extra picks but if the draft was shitty and you're like well you know this is not a great top fifty players like seventeen good players and there's dramatic. Drop off the most guys. Were just guys then. You probably wouldn't be as likely to do that so I think it's. I think it's very dependent on the crop guys on an individual year like the number one pick is not always the same. There's this week quarterback in a draft. It changes it. If there's not it doesn't like last year having top pick was a big deal. Kyla Murray and Nick Bosa then it was like who do you take quitting Williams one year? Wonder then Cleveland Farrell. Then I like Devon white but just some unknown and that last year was a good draft but it felt like Kyla Murray was a star and he offers a rookie of the year which we could argue. But he's clearly pretty good. Nick Bosa. Listen I I was wrong. I tried it. I was just too negative. But it's clear I mean he's a superstar so that was the draft. I mean the one year that's alum. Thomas went third. It was myles. Garrett went one. Who's by far the best player in the draft minimum? Mitch Trubisky Solomon Thomas. So on that given years like some years. It's like Alden Smith. Jj Watt going ten eleven and Odell Beckham. Every draft is kind of unique. And that's the key to knowing the draft value is factoring in the chart but with the players and how you value them kind of on a year to year basis. That's why it gets pretty complicated. It's also why having experience in drafts and knowing the League in knowing the next crop guys coming out is really important. 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4/4: Which School Has The Best Football & Basketball Coaching Combination?

The Audible with Feldman And Mandel

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4/4: Which School Has The Best Football & Basketball Coaching Combination?

"Coming up on today's episode of the audible, we talk some LSU's some Oklahoma best football basketball, coaching combos and much much more. Welcome to the automobile, presented by trader Joe's. I'm Stewart Mandel joined as always by Bruce Feldman last week. He was home. And I was on the road this week. We have changed places. Yes. Sorry. It's taken me. So long to get back to you, Stu, but I'm in Baton Rouge. It's been a busy couple of days. I leave here. Tomorrow to go to the Nebraska, we already have a writer, Stu, maybe I shouldn't have gone, but hopefully, I'm going to catch up with our new Nebraska writer mid Sherman, and I have some story to work on. And but I feel like I've been as you know, when you go on the road, basically don't have much time to go on Twitter or on search the internet. So you kind of feel a little bit like you're cut off from the other side of the world. But it's great hit us. Great. You know last week being on the go four different schools. Yeah. You're just not it's it's you just feel more alive than when you're sitting at in front of a computer for eight hours and can't get off Twitter. Because we're the end of the day. If anything's like that big big news, you're gonna get alerted to it in some way. And then you find out that all you're missing by not being glued to Twitter is all the other kind of waste of time stuff. Yes. It's an waste of energy. So it's good to be back on with you and good to be back connected to our audience. What are we talking about today? Still well last week, I gave some observations and ANC does from where I visited so tell us about LSU for you do though I one thing is you went to Oklahoma. And I think that part of the trip didn't happen. I don't think you had gotten there yet when we take the podcast. So you wanna share some details from your visits Norman. Yeah. That was my last stop. You'll probably see a lot of Jalen hurts stories in the next few weeks. Mine will not be one of them because the one day of the spring. He was available was the day before I got there. It was interesting. I did you see that press conference? He gave I saw a little of the video of it. I can't say I watched the whole thing. But I saw a little bit of it. And it's not surprising that he came across as extremely Pol. I thoughtful because I only he gave out his he gave a two minute opening statement like a coach does you don't really often see a player come in and given opening statement and then take questions, but he did. And it was kind of Irie it looked like Nick Sabin. They looked sounded like Nick Sabin. I'm gonna just agree with you on that. I don't think it really looked and sounded like Nick Sabin because I feel like when Nick Sabin talks to the media sometimes socially when he's doing at a podium. There's a part of it where feels like he's scolding the media or he's using it to kind of frame where he's going. I didn't really feel like so much. Jalen hurts was doing that. Except he was kind of basically giving an introduction of who. I am. Here's what I'm about. I remember hearing him speak to the lead eleven quarter high quarterbacks over the summer, and he had mentioned that he was studying crisis communications and public relations. And so I think you know, in addition to being a coach's kid all of his experience in NBN, a leader of that program. I think. You see some of some of that education coming out in him as that was my perspective. I just didn't get when you know, people think of the process and that they see Nick Sabin. But I didn't quite see it that way. And that's not a knock on excitement. I just feel like Jalen hurts was just coming crosses, a very polished in in thoughtful public speaker is presentation to clarify to be the put it this way. There are two different Nick, save and press conferences, there's the ones he gives to the media and Tuscaloosa where he has a scolding look on his face arms crossed just ready for it to be over. And I'm by no means comparing him to that hurts there's Nick Sabin at national championship games and SEC media days where he's on his best behavior, and is very articulate and talks a lot about the process this. That's what this reminded me of where he like you said, he's extremely well-spoken. He's a great leader. And he just kind of laid out here. I'll give you one quote, just just as an example. I'm. I'm a firm believer in that. If we continue to practice the same habits do the same things nine times out of ten you'll get the same results. So I think as an organization we want more we want to achieve more tell me that doesn't make something excitement. Yeah. It does it does. But again, I think those are he's taken some of the best things of the people. He's been around. And and that's part. We is. I think that's a good thing for Oklahoma football to get that. So I focused a little bit more on other areas. When I was there talked to Dennis them as receivers coach. They've got not one not two three five star freshman receivers all enrolled early which is it's kinda scary. Because as Lincoln had the great Ron of receivers from D, Westbrook and Markey's Brown and many more before that. And none of those guys came in with his much recruiting hype as these three guys. So it's like, I know they don't always live up to the hype. I know that that's not scientific. But what are these guys? What are the what are they going to be capable of doing in that offense is kind of scary to think about and then of course, wants to know about Alex Grinch, the new defensive coordinator, you know, what I asked Lincoln Riley was to be a low of a devil's advocate, obviously, they need to get better. On defense. They're not gonna win a national championship point defense the way they did in the last few years under Mike stoops, but how realistic is it for a team that runs an air raid offense to field a top notch defense because traditionally whether you're thinking of Texas Tech, whether you're thinking of like most of the big twelve or cow sunny, I mean, most of these teams don't play defense, and as you'd expect he said, I think we absolutely can field top twenty defense here. Mashed only he pointed out remember much about the twenty fifteen Oklahoma defense with Eric striker Charles Taffer who else twenty fifteen year, they lost a Clemson in the in the orange -able twenty sixty. I remember that. Remember that he just kept talking about how great that defense was. And there's no reason why they can't get back to that. So I looked it up. And sure enough they had a top twenty five national defense that year. I do remember calling Mike stoops the day after they played Baylor that year, this was our brows Baylor. And they just completely shut down Korey Coleman. And really I think the only team to do that year. So if not on attainable to have a great defense at Oklahoma. And when I say great, I mean top twenty five right? I even even he would concede that in that conference against those offenses, you're not going to give up nineteen points per game. But if you you know, most weeks that offense is gonna score thirty five or forty more Oklahoma's offense. So you just need to play even average defense and pig things could have well, he did a good job at Washington state with much less players have much NFL talent, I know from talking to guys in the conference, and we've talked about this on our podcast. He was the toughest prepare for because. Unpredictable. And we'll see I mean, there's no we're almost almost nowhere to go. But up how they were all of last year. So they can said, and I think he'd agree having followed that program Washington state that when he went back and watch the tape the guys for me. I think we're interested there three seasons. Right. So the players on the tape from year one to year three got dramatically better. That's great. That's a pretty good sign of good coaching. They got obviously expect guys to get better as careers go on. But I mean, this was really noticeable. Yeah. As I sit by this of all Mike Leach is a big coaching tree of guys, including Lincoln Riley, his Moshe rude higher that he's ever made was going to take Alex grinchey was the safeties coach at Mizzou and give making him as because they were horrific before he got there, and he made them, very formidable. So okay. So at this point people who've listened to last week and this going. Are you guys ever gonna talk about teams outside of the Texas Oklahoma part of the country? Yes, we're going to inch a little just a little bit. I'm in Baton Rouge. I've spent quite a bit of time now with LSU I've seen them practice and seen a lot of film of from their coaches watching them practice. So I feel like I would decent handle on on this. The big addition similar to Alex Grinch is here is the past game coordinator who does Ron hire from from the New Orleans Saints Joe Brady, you're going to hear a lot about him. I predict he is he is twenty nine years old, but he has to mentors who I think have been, you know, it's funny. Like, one of his mentors is the reason. Why sometimes I now I know how to use the word serendipitous. That's Joe Moorhead. He worked for Joe more at Penn State. And then he got to the saints and he worked for Sean Payton, and you don't get much better. I'm not sure get any better than those too often guys especially for what they wanna do. And this offense will look much different. Because if you watch it now, I've seen it is very different from what people use to stand from. LSU? We've heard that before though have we though I mean, we it looked different when Matt Canada was there, but it was motions and shifts and that look like what mad Canada did. I mean, it was different. It just didn't work that. Well, right in this regard. What's going to be interesting here is they have. I think they have a very talented group receivers they were young last year. We seem Justin Jefferson. He's one of the better receivers in the SEC. I think a guy you're gonna see as a breakout player this year will be Jomar chase. He was a big. You know, highly rated freshman. He had pretty good season last year. He's a very physical receiver. I think he's going to be a big weapon for them. The other one is Joe borough finish the you're pretty strong in the last month of the season. And I think he's a pretty good fit. He's smart. He's tough. He's a coach's kid and he's accurate. I think that he's going to be a good trigger man for them looking at them. They do not have their down. A couple of starters who are sitting out the spring on injury in the defensive line. But and they're going to have to replace Devon y. But they're secondary looks really really good. And they got a lot of players. I mean, they they definitely have a lot of athletes on the defense. I think this will be a certainly a top ten team if not more than that. I think that Joe borough last season maybe got a little bit. It's weird because he there was so much attention being placed on him coming into the season because LSU is so desperate for a quarterback savior for some time. And then they went out and they had a pretty good season. But he just kinda Wayne hear much about him again. But at the end of the day, I do think he had a very positive impact on that team. And now he's going to be with a years more experience. I mean, if you look at what he did over the last month of the season. I think he had we look at this. Now, I got in front of me eleven touchdowns one. I n t plus he ran for three more touchdowns. I mean, they didn't. There was a stretch where they weren't running much at all because they're backup quarterback who's the only scholarship kid. They had at quarterback was kind of banged up. And they were not sure if they wanted to risk put miles Brennan in the game when he wasn't healthy or wasn't close to healthy. They really didn't have a number two. Well, then they did run them later in the year, and he was pretty effective now UCF had a bad defense. But he torched them I think again part of this. I think is young group receivers kind of starting to mature because they didn't have much. Remember, they they basically road Darius skies the year before but they didn't have much else around him. So again, I'm not saying this is going to be an offense. It's gonna average forty five points game in the sea. But it's I think it's gonna be very interesting. Like, I said, I would I would keep an eye on Joe Brady. I think he's his stocks gonna go again. It's it's spring practice. You can only tell so much. But I do think he has a chance to be a key coaching higher in the offseason. I think is a little bit lost than the in the weeds because because quite honestly, people don't know what he looks like it was a saints assistant. He wasn't you know, it wasn't like even Alex Grinch who was a coordinator. Someplace I mean, he's never called plays in a game. But you know again, Stephen bigger still the offense coordinator. But this guy is going gonna have a big impact on it. From from everything I've seen from here. Okay. Back to the podcast, stack stew. I know you're as much of an outdoorsman as their gets when you're outside in the outdoors doing your thing with nature you wanna be comfortable. Right. And we have a great sponsor that has debuted with us at sent us some product, and it is free fly. 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They just announced bread Hoiberg their coach Wednesday morning, which led to an interesting mailbag question for me, which was rank the top football basketball coaching combos of any school out there. And I said it's a little premature to be saying that about Scott frost and Nebraska, this used to be what I felt like a fairly easy question where the Tommaso Mark dantonio have. I have the number one. Would you? I know dantonio didn't have the greatest two out of the last three seasons. But he still wanna lie games there. Thomas us back in the final four. Do you agree disagree? And adding to this is the fact that another school just hired a new basketball coach I had number two. That Texas that would be Texas am with the JIMBO Fisher buzz Williams combo, which gives Scott Woodward eighty there are a lot of credit, and I know they're throwing money around like crazy. But think about this. Combo will give a year Scott Woodrow this. He is a three fantastic last major coaching hires. Now, if he's if he's hired, you know, some other sports at at an apologize. I messed but in terms of these two hires. Plus he was the one who got Washington Chris Peterson. And that was a fantastic upgrade. So that helps to have a ton of money, and they have a ton of money. But I think if I was an Aggie fan I'd be pretty fired up right now. So I'll just give you my top five, and you can tell me disagree. It was Michigan state one and two Michigan three with look at you coming coming back for a little of horrible after after shutting the door to face. Well, it's Harbaugh and John line. Who granted this conversation requires some knowledge of college basketball coaches, but you watch the tournament. Right. I mean, yours qualifies anybody to talk about this. I don't know if I'm qualified as anybody was qualified as anybody in this. Tell room. So let's carry on Pat, forty would be excellent to talk about this covers sports quite closely of number four Notre Dame granted Mike brave finish last and the really this year. I looked it up. He attended the last twelve years they've won at least twenty one games not that far removed from the elite eight and of course, Brian Kelly coming off yet another undefeated regular season, and this it was tough to to come up with number five. There were three schools. I probably considered an awesome. We went with Oklahoma with Lincoln Riley and long Kerber who wants to twenty sixteen final four. So anybody anything stand out either way? They're you know, I know there's one name you had almost on your list probably hovering around the Jim Harbaugh category. That was more stoops and you've got John Calipari on the other side. Yeah. I think that's a pretty strong combination. Mark stoops is the one who had to do it over again. I mean, he had such a great year last year. It's hard not to include them, but it was one year. So he's fringe top twenty five to me. So I guess I guess you're saying if you're going to have Harbaugh and. Beeline that high Cagliari stoops that was my thought again, I'm going to defer to you on that the other one that's interesting. I I don't know if I it's harder for me to argue on this because I'm just not as verse not destroying college basketball. I used to certainly not as strong as some of our friends who sit and press boxes, but you know, Purdue as a really strong combination their painters, really really good coach. And obviously, we both think a lot of Jeff Brown. So they the rest of my top ten was do with coach Kane David cliff number seven maybe outdated by the time. He listened to this and that is TC Gary Patterson, Jamie Dixon, who has of this recording is in all indications are maybe closing deal. UCLA Purdue Syracuse, Jim, hey behind vapors and Kentucky it's too early to early to put Mike Hopkins. I know just got a new deal. I got a couple a couple nominations for that got a couple of people wanting Virginia with Tony Bennett and Bronco mendenhall. And I think maybe Florida with Mullen and Mike white. That would not correct the list for me yet. So anyway, exciting time that you're walking into their Lincoln, and certainly where I just wasn't cost station. One quick news item. I wanted to hit with you before we get to the mailbag. Here's one example, where being on Twitter at the right time was kind of entertaining or interesting when news broke Tuesday morning that the American alliance of football was shutting down immediately. Having not quite made it all the way to the end of the season shutdown seven weeks in I'm not taking any delete in that some people were I'm not sure why this is a bunch of players coaches who are out of work now, basically because of this Carolina Hurricanes owner who came in and was supposedly going to save the day and with an influx of cash, and then just abruptly pulled the plug, but it's kind of like, do you see the welfare movie semi pro. I did biting disappointing movie disappointing. We where he's fighting to keep the ABA alive. It reminds me a little bit of that where they were just kind of. Seems like by the -cations they were running out of money almost for the time. They started it in kind of flying by their pants a little bit. But I mean, I know you watched quite he's some immediately jumped to you know, let's because the product on the field was so crappy. I don't think that I don't think it was that and Brinkley. I think you're probably pretty pleased with the fan address. They had you know. You know, I was a fan of it. My son. I watched quite a bit of it. Couple of you never knew exactly this kind of strays into here comes true TV and this time of year. What channel is it on whatever for those games because it was on a bunch of different networks and platforms. So you never really knew exactly when it was going to be on. Or should I go to see sports network? Should I go to should I go to TBS TNT isn't going to be on NFL network. So there was that bounced around a little bit. I did remember when I when I saw this news, and I saw later than than other people that just as I was offline for while on Tuesday. But I thought back to the first night it premiered, an I like a bunch of the people were tweeting about watching it. And everyone's like, oh it kill the NBA in ratings and it like they use it as an Dinant of the NBA. And it's just like this is kind of Twitter in vacuum or nutshell where you're looking at in going. All right, everyone talked about how great it was. But it was like going to the restaurant that everybody goes through the one night, and they don't go to the restaurant anymore, and you can say it was on a big channel or whatever. But just you know, these are habits that people have to want to commit to. And I think, you know, look there's going to be another league the XFL behind with Oliver luck, that's running it. It's got bigger name coaches on since bigger name 'cause Steve's Steve sprayers in it. Whereas Bob stoops has also in it. But certainly it probably helps the XFL. But I don't know. I don't I don't take any glee and say, you know, I know some people that worked in the league. So I definitely not happy about you know, I feel for them. But I thought it was good to see more football never a bad thing. And so I'm sorry to see it go. Yeah. I heard from from other people who said they think this is actually a good sign for the XFL. There was at least some indication that there is interesting spring football. I don't think anybody's under any delusion that any of these. You know, new leagues would get the numbers of even like a bad. You name it, you know, lower level f. Bs college game. I mean, they're not going to get the ratings of one of those early, but they can still get decent ratings for off-season the exit for the big differences. I guess I did not realize I had not read one word about the AFC business model before yesterday. They just didn't have a lot of money. You know, the Charlie ever Saul who started, you know, I looked it up. They raise seventeen million dollars and investments before they launched that thing that is not I don't know why you would think you could you need a lot of money to start a football league with hundreds of players and personnel and whatnot from scratch, so and traveling all over the country and training, the XFL on the other hand is funded by a Jain organization, and a billionaire in Vince McMahon, and we'll probably have a lot more runway to get that thing off the ground. What also may be successful? I don't know. But it's not like they're going to be the semipro g they're not going to be like scrapping for for laundry money six weeks into the season. You're right. So we shall see you want to get to the mail bag. Let's get to the mailbag as always you can send your emails to the audible pod at gmaiLcom from first up David Klein hybrids and Stewart in European which coaching hires the past twenty years or so should have been successful. But turned out to be significant disappointments. And by that, I don't mean someone like Bopha lenient, Nebraska or less miles of L sheet. Nobody's calling less miles LSU's tenure significant disappointment. I wouldn't think I'm thinking like Dan Hawkins, Colorado, maybe lane kiffin at USC will must have Florida. Coach was highly respected. Had a good record is previous job knew the landscape of the school conference region. But just didn't cut it. I'll give you think about that. I haven't answer right off the top. Well, I'm confused by the inclusion of like, it's a different mix of people there where I don't though will must champ one kind of throws me because it was like he's a bit. You were started on a big job right away, whereas lane kiffin almost like Linkin example, works at Tennessee. Because he was only there one year. It was. You know, very tumultuous, and then he left I think probably of those once he mentioned the one he's he that he's trying to get at his Dan Hawkins who had great successive, Boise state and was associated with that part of the country and just was a flamed out completely Colorado. And so my example would be rich rotted Michigan at that time. Maybe people don't remember old enough to remember, you know, he was one of the hottest coaches in the country. He could have been Vic Savin may never come to be. If Richard Ed accepted, the offer at Alabama that he turned out and then open the door for saving. So he was a hot coach who'd had tremendous success West Virginia who was known for this very innovative offense. And then he goes to Michigan, and it's just complete complete misfit for many reasons right from day one three and nine the first year and was never able to dig out of that. And it was like, wait a minute. You know, I always assumed if he left West Virginia for more higher profile job. Hugh, the very successful in anything. It was a complete disaster to thoughts, and I'm not gonna try to answer this in the right spirit of things. The first thought that came to mind was Charlie strong that way he took. He took over from Mack Brown. He did some really good things. But it felt like he was always fighting up hill battle there. Right. Like when he got the job. And again, some of this is a little bit from the memory is a little off. But I remember thinking the biggest challenge for Charlie showing. This is probably you know. You know stupid thought, but it was like when he was at Louisville. He wasn't getting much attention. He hadn't dealt with the media or whatever and all of the following Mack Brown, and how is he going to handle being in that Texas fishbowl? And I don't think that was a problem for him at all. I don't think in the end. I just think that it felt like he did some good things. Just I don't know if you ran out of time, or if it was like one of those things where I was around them a lot the last season and the last his really last month. My crew did three of his last four games. And just finally goes almost like they try like they couldn't get out of their own way. They were trying to ours. You know, and I go back to something Leach will say every once in a while. It was almost like, you know, he's used it. Whereas like, you're trying too hard us and not letting it happen kind of thing. And I felt like the some of that which arly strong the other one the other name that comes to mind for a different reason. And most jury is how would a been would have been Bill Brian at Penn State. It was an interesting couple. Years. I think because they were coming out of you know, he was kind of a Ray of a lot of darkness around that program for all the send us key stuff. And he won over a lot of people around Penn State, you know, and especially like, the, you know, the map Milnes in the older Penn State people, and, you know, older Penn State players, and and then he left to go to the NFL and James Franklin's done a terrific job there since but I'd have been curious what would have been if he had stayed there. I'm not saying he would have done any better than James Franklin. I think you would've because James Franklin's done really, well, but I would have been curious to see what if you had stayed in college football. I remember being very surprised at the higher. I don't even think I knew frankly knew who Bill Ryan was when Penn State hired him, which is rare, you know, the major program hire somebody that should just I think the only other one I can think of like that was when Florida hired Ron's. None of us knew who runs up was and yeah, he he won over people pretty quickly. He was off to a bit start there. Matt mcglone hadn't done any. Anything until last year. And then Brian got him playing at a pretty high level. I think I don't think he fully understood the depths of what he's walking into. He didn't even know when he took the job they were going to have a what was at the time of four year Bowman. And then just I mean, it was just so raw still all the all the hurt feelings there about Joe Paterno and the handling his firing. And I can't say I blame him for getting out when he did. But it's not like he I wouldn't put him in the same category as rich rod or Charlie strong. He had to pretty decent years. They're given the circumstance bar in Madison. Love the podcast and the athletes thanks for hiring. Jesse temple? Of course. We are thrilled that Jesse temp was our badgers writer following up on your over under win totals conversation. What makes you confident in Wisconsin bouncing back and hitting the over of eight point five they lost three. You're starting qb, Alex, Brooke as transfer some people say this good for the badgers and have to play Michigan. Michigan state and Ohio. From the big ten. He's still you wanna take that. Because I didn't feel overly confident on that. I'm not saying it's like a surefire lock that they would hit the over. But I don't know how to handle that morning birth one. Because I don't like bashing kids who are still in college. And he's going to you know, could be the starting quarterback of Florida state next year. But I don't think it's any secret to say he struggled pretty badly last year. So are you waiting for a year until his career is over because very good? Eight or you just think it's bad for him to bash them when they're in college. I don't know. What do you think? I don't sometimes it's the quarterback is one where it's the hardest to avoid just don't think you should criticize college players in the way, we criticised professional players. Yeah. I'm with you on that. I'm giving a little hard time like gotten to the point when I shouldn't even say who it was. But I was at a game at forty was next to me and this one quarterback played so bad against. I think I know you too. Well, I know exactly who you're talking about. And it got to the point where it one point. It's almost like he played so bad for a second year, shaving points. And so I asked forty I said who's the worst? Like what was the worst performance by a good player? You can remember. And you know, how did you write about it because I didn't wanna like trash that particular player? And I remember him talking about twenty del who is a good shooting guard. It can talk you wanna say might have like done John starch where he was like over sixteen or whatever he was. I don't know each try not to try to tread lightly. What I what I think is worse example this or maybe more pertinent example is when we're talking about a Heisman candidate. And you nominate somebody number three, and I make the case why shouldn't be number three thousand I'm crapping all over a good player 'cause I'm trying to justify mine of three. And I I don't like when we end up having to do that. And it's like, but you're making your case, and it comes at the expense of somebody else. I don't think it'd be possible for Wisconsin. I think it's pretty likely that Wisconsin see upgrade at the quarterback position this season. Whether it's their hotshot freshman or somebody. Else? I think last year their defense was very inexperienced and didn't play at the level that we've come to expect from Wisconsin defenses. I soon they'll be a little bit better. And it's not ideal to have those three crossover opponents from the east, but you know, got a new coach Michigan state wasn't that great last year? I don't think it's unreasonable to think that they would win at least one of those. And then you know in the division they play in you should be able to win most or all the games division. It's pretty strong. Okay. The next question from Peter actually talked about something I noticed last week at one of the practices. I was that student Bruce love the podcast and hope to clear something up for me. I see most every team uses additional soft padding on the outside of their helmets during practices is there any consideration for homeless moving in that direction in general, it seems like a good way to maintain the protection and less than the use of the helmet as a weapon and clearly there's some safety benefit to using them in practice. The guardian helmets. We're seeing a more you'd see them. If you watch a lot of seven on seven and high school football. You know, I remember this. There was a Bill safety longtime ago in the eighties name, Mark Kelso. And he they I think they would call the gazoo helmet your gazoo. Okay. Good. I just want. But anyway, it was like it was like an extra shell on the helmet. And I don't know how many other players wore that over that time. But you know, again, I don't know if this was something that would go too far to it or not. But I think right now, we're at this stage where I think people are open to a lot of different things, you know, a lot of different ideas. So I wouldn't rule anything out like that. We have to do something, you know, this this issue of concussions head injuries is not going to solve it self. And so companies and schools are trying various different things. And so like, I don't I certainly think, you know, I'm not an expert on the technology in terms of where that's at whether it's ready to be using games. I if it's being used in practice. I don't know. Why couldn't? But let's definitely not say well that would look funny. Who cares if you wanna protect football to be football and fifty years, we try something different. And if it means padding on the outside of the helmets reduces injuries, then go for it. I just don't know. I'm not. Heard one word about any sort of movement towards using those games. I think it's still relatively new in general. So it'll be interesting to see where that's headed over the next couple of years, Mike from blowing rock North Carolina. He has asked us questions before I know, he's an acetate fan. And he asks which program will suffer the bigger drop boss Kuta, their coaching change apps state or Troy, I don't know on that. I just I mean, I know a little chip linzie a little bit. And I've heard good things about drunk quits. But you know, you, and I both agree that both of the guys are placing terrific coaches. And about that is there were so I don't know anything about either personnel. But well that's not true upstairs quarterback was. I think I saw four last year. And he was really good. I just don't know enough about what they have coming back. I think that in general, right? We're not gonna claim to be experts on these teams rosters. But in general, apps state has been successful for a long time right there at a you know, he was the. The coach took them off to the next level. But that the infrastructure has been place and they've been very good program for a long time. Whereas I don't know that it's guarantee that Troy after Neil Brown JR. Is going to continue to be team that wins ten games and beats LSU Nebraska. Yeah. That's a cop answer. That's the best. We can. Thank you. That's a good way to put it. What's end with a UC question shower? Not a week goes by US's not in the news for something this week. It was lynched want signing autographs three thousand miles away from the rats smoldering ruins of the athletic department. That's not questions about let me ask you a question though. So what exactly like I saw he put a letter out to to kind of explain it. But then I read the letter it didn't feel like it really explained much like I was expect like I don't know when I saw that. I was expecting to say well this the autographs went to fund. Some kind of good 'cause no, no, no. I mean, look is it a crime for Lynn Swann. Former NFL star see were to go to an autograph signing. No is the athletic department going to stop operating run out of money next week because he wasn't there for two days. No, nobody's in saying that this was a. A total Dasan of him to do this. It's just purely optics your athletic departments in crisis. They're holding this retreat for senior leadership and he's off signing autographs with among other celebrities a guy who played FREDDY Krueger at one of those movies. It's just a it's just, you know, you don't expect that of your one of the most visible leaders of your well, the most visible leader of your up department, certainly one of the most at the university, and no he just said contractually agreed to months ago, when I wanna break the contract Simon asks us, everyone seems excited as for how Graham Harrell started off with play held on the hottest of hot seats. Is there any way that an AD could hire a new coach but insists that an see stay in place, or is that unreasonable requests for the new coach I could see a powerful combo in a year's time with Gregg giannotti and Graham Harrell on each side of the ball. So a new head coach, but keeping Graham Herro as though OC and hiring grace Gratiot who. Recently left his job as the patriots. And I have no idea who wanna be a college defensive coordinator. I can think of examples of coaches who stayed on through coaching changes. Certainly bud foster. Did you know Hugh freeze got the head coaching job as the OC after his coach got nudged out at Arkansas state. Yeah. I mean, I think if Graham Harrell has that much success as an see this year, then and they fire still fireplace health, and I would think there'd be a lot of clamoring to promote him. Here's the challenge with that. Though there the air raid to some degree as is polarizing, and I'm not necessarily sure that depending on who they bring in that they're gonna wanna run that offense or run a version of that offense. So I don't know. I think here's here's the challenge with them. If you see especially if they do make a coaching change. I think they're gonna want somebody who's gonna come in and say, look, I'm dictating. What goes on? You're not doing this because to some degree when they hired clay Helton. You know, they wanted to kind of like USC makes these things and they always take half a step forward. Whether it they hire a UCI in clay Hilton was on was the preview on the previous two staff. Yeah, I didn't play Helen himself do this. And he retained some of the staff from when he was the interim coach. Yeah. Yeah. And so now some of those guys, and I'm not saying, there aren't good coaches, but Clancy Pendergast had been there. Johnny Nansen had been there. John Baxter had been there. Those guys who were you know, were holdovers again. That's in the reason why they haven't done well or not. But you know, I think again, if you're USC you're going to I think if you're gonna make, you know, big change, I'm not saying you can't keep Graham Harrell, if that's the case. But I think you I think it's hard to to dictate and say, hey, you're going to do this. And you're gonna keep this guy. I mean, I do feel like there was a couple of situations where a head coach moved on. And they the the wanted. To keep coordinator because he liked that coordinator so much so. You know on that maybe makes them more enticing. But again, I think if you're USC in this particular case, if you're gonna make a change you gotta give that head coach the flexibility to do it his way I already see where this is going to be eight week season long week to week topic is is clay Helton. I mean is he is he doing to save his job? And then who's the next coach going to be? And of course, the whole, you know, the shadow of that whole thing. Well, reminder sitting there reminders L every week doing stuff for FOX. Just fast forward to thanksgiving weekend when we are not talking about whether they're hiring over reminder, next, coach ready, clean out the FOX decks. Well, they have had some bad luck with that recently. But you know, when you hire somebody like that you do it knowing there's possibility he's he's going to want to go back. I do a quick shot here. Yes. On saturday. I went to benefit in honor of Jake Olsen, the long, snapper. The blind USC long snapper who has raised a ton of money for retinue. Blasts Doma is very cool event. And he's he's got an awesome story to hear him speak about it. And explain the cause is something I think everybody should get behind those very cool to meet his family as well. And they got a lot to be proud of. I mean, just rarely really awesome. Do Jake all since one of the great stories come through college with on recent years. And I think it's tremendous that I mean, I can remember watching the game they feature on him ten years ago, if he was still the coach, and he was a teenager. So to see him go through his career and actually get the live is dream. And now, obviously helping to raise a lot of money for a great cause. Ause just awesome. By the way, Shelley Smith was actually there the person who brought that story to TV. So it was it was cool all the way around. All right. Well, how Nebraska and everybody else will see next week. 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"What's up it's the Sodano show here on? ESPN LA always thankful to have an opportunity to chat with you guys. I feel like it doesn't happen often enough but I'm here and I'm happy and excited. We got a crazy guest lineup for you today. All right. So here's the deal in about ten minutes or so. Brian Horse is gonNA stop a by and we are going to marvel at. What is the Los Angeles Lakers? So we'll talk to Brian about that. Scott Wolf inside. USC is going to join us and he is is not happy with this Klay Hilton stuff and by the way I heard this morning neither keyshawn for that matter. So we'll talk to Scott about that mean kind will stop by the ram still a chance at the the playoffs. And we'll talk to her about that and the raiders and the chargers and Philip rivers and whatnot trudell is gonNA stop by As well in the next hour and then Max Holloway in the show with us he is fighting. UFC Two forty five. He is the featherweight champion of the world. And he will stop by. We'll talk to him about his upcoming Boughton on what the Hell's going on in the UFC. But I gotTA start here. Man Man the Lakers are really damn good. I know that's not necessarily a newsflash but good God have they've been great so when the season started actually before the season started in the summertime or whenever they figured out the team I think the last time we had like a real prediction action on the team was at media day and we talked to everybody. McMenamin and Ramona an omen. You know everyone that was there that day Mason Ireland. We all talked right sleeve and we looked at the schedule early on and we said look. There's a lot of winnable games there. There and I know this has been a point of contention for Laker fans and I felt like the schedule at the beginning isn't so great like it's a little soft off so if you go fifteen and five in those first twenty games you feel really good well. They exceeded that at seventeen and three so they got plenty of pad here if things were to turn south in December except they sure as hell haven't turned south they basically Glee said. Screw you and all your schedule. We'll talk we're going to go on the road on a back to back back altitude cities against teams that have lost recently. That everyone says is in our path for the play offs. And we're just going to wipe the floor with them. And that's exactly what happ well maybe wipe the floor. Denver like Denver was competitive but they absolutely destroyed Utah. And now that's the second time they've destroyed Utah. I look at the nuggets and I look at the the jazz and I say to myself. Those guys can't compete with the Lakers. No offense like they're a nice little story kind of the little engine that could so now. There's not enough there. There's not there's not enough there. And the Lakers have been dominated dominated on offense dominant on defense and they've answered the biggest question. The biggest question heading into the season was going to be about their perimeter defense and last year. When you look at the guys who were on this roster okay and you look at their defensive rating? Alex Caruso last year one or two point. Four Lebron terrible for his by his standards. One zero seven point six cow coups but one zero nine point seven. Anthony Davis a one ten containers caldwell-pope one ten Javale McGee won eleven. Rondo one thirteen this year. A Lot. Different even Rondo is playing decent defense right now good defense. It's been a long time since rondos played pretty good defense. But some of this is a little mast. He still has been lost a few times. Hey Alex Caruso a stud. He's been one of the best defenders in the League. Lebron who's been the catalyst for all this stuff has been unbelievable. A one zero one point seven Kuzina a one one hundred point five. Anthony Davis one or two point nine. But this is where that stuff it's funny. Ad As a one or two point nine but we all know this. They're playing great defense because Anthony Davis is doing everything. I mean everything. I was there in that game in New Orleans last week or now almost two weeks ago before Thanksgiving and look at the way he impacted that game. Everyone's focuses on the offense right the forty points or whatever which was the most ever in a return game but he made the most impactful plays of the game when it mattered most and they were both on defense that's and that's what he brings and he has spoken it into existence as Lavar ball used to say he said he would keep Lebron accountable and defense any has and all those guys. I mentioned this. You have been better on defense and I think it starts and ends with Anthony Davis and Lebron if you get buy in from them which is what our buddy modell said mode. Echoes goes with former video coordinator for the Spurs and the Clippers and team Australia and he said the most important thing for goes to get buy in from Lebron Anthony Davis and he's got he's got it and and we've seen the results. The Lakers are an excellent defensive team and now we know that even though they had a little slippage here of the last couple of weeks heading into these these last two games that they can turn it on because they know they can play defense and there's just a different level focus from Lebron. I haven't seen him play defense like this since two thousand thirteen. I haven't seen him focused like this in all honesty. Probably since he lost that Finals Against Dallas Lesson twenty eleven where the next year. He came in game one. He just destroyed Dirk and the mavs because remember that was the strike shortened season and they started on Christmas Day and that team team play Dallas again in a revenge game and he just annihilated them and I think it's it's really since then have I seen. I Seen Lebron that focused the early on in season since then and even now I would say. He's even more focused than I've seen at that point because he dealt with some of the stuff in the off season the injury right the fact that he's been here I think help and people were starting to say maybe he's not the best player. No one was actually calling in the washed king. Maybe some people on twitter but but no one in the right mind was saying that but there were some stuff about. There's some slippage in father. Time is undefeated and clearly. He's answered those questions as well. So it's a different level of focus. There's championship experience all over the Roster Lebron Danny Green Dwight Dwight not been a champion but dwight has been to to the NBA finals. Right you know. Rondo has been a champion before. So Quinn even Quinn. Cook is like that. They've been on rosters before Avery Bradley's been championship level rosters before all that stuff matters their coach. Even Frank Vogel who was their third choice has been deep into the playoffs. So all that stuff that experienced they have on this roster top to bottom. The coaching staff has turned out to be a complete benefit. and Pelinka's has gotten right to this point. He deserves credit. I was wrong but I felt like at that time. You need to ask the question like Yo. The season before was is a mess. Like how much of this was him and now he was going to do it by himself for the first time all fair questions but he's answered it and that's what the Lakers have done. They've they've answered it. They've shown us that they have an identity and the results are there. They're eighteen and three but no lebron season goes without some without some Fake controversy like yesterday shoot gate is what I'm GonNa call this one where the jazz announcers were incredulous. That Lebron was celebrating out of the game onto the court without his shoes while his teammates were we're bullying and Kyle Kuzma was making great defensive. Plays inside Tony Hawk by these mcadoo back. The Fella turns in crowd continued to fight. It is on the court with no shoes. My disrespect right dead. Please no good grief. Just get over read. That was The Jazz TV network. Whatever on the get over it man he was giving the you gave his shoes away to two kids for the love of God did he gave away his shoes to kids? That's why he didn't have shoes and okay. Should you KNOB on the court. Whatever dude like? How many times do we see these bench celebrations or whatever? Good Lord man like the funniest part is that the broadcasters before had mentioned he gave the shoes away to the kids and just forgot that airport convenient. Oh man like look. I'm not gonNA give Lebron over that. I'm sorry it's not. It's not for me. I literally grew up rooting for a team. They used to do the Doodoo. Brown and pelvic thrusts You know when they would beat down teams. You know as a college football fan at the University of Miami with a hurricane. So I'm not doing that but this is what happens. They gotta find something to talk about so this becomes a thing just ridiculous but three road trip. I think that's a real thing Portland tomorrow right here here on. ESPN LA so make sure you check that out coming up next mix you check out Brian. Windhorst who stops by. We'll talk to him. He's covered Lebron forever. No one knows him better than than Brian Brian. So we'll ask Brian about the focus level of Lebron next. We're back here on the Sodano show here on. ESPN LA and we are thankful to have this man on the line with US Brian windhorst ESPN ESPN NBA. Insider friend of the program. I win doors. Lebron is playing defense for the first time since like twenty thirteen What are you seeing from? I'm him that has made him this guy that we're seeing right now. Well first off. He's in terrific shape he definitely Dedicated themselves to recover avenue. Injury is He talked to in the training camp about getting his fast twitch muscle back and boy. Do you see that because when he was at his absolute superiors prime one of the things he did there than anybody was just his ability to have that quick reaction quick reactions are back. He's engaged their thing. Is You know he got into this. This this trend and I don't blame me for it where he would eat end of the season you know. He was recovered from the finals. Usually had a pat summer where he was traveling album all over the world and he would really kind of take up until Christmas as long as a training camp and then he would build up during the middle of the season. And then you'd see Lebron Lebron's be Lebron really from about the All Star game onward and. That doesn't work for the Lakers right now. That doesn't work in the Western Conference. And you know I think he. We started in that mode a little bit last year and he had to make an adjustment. And we've seen it and I gotTa Tell You George Excuse me there's probably been on top of my head Lebron's won fifty. Eight Games are more. I want to say maybe four or five times. I've never seen a team that he's played on. Be This good in the first twenty games and and that's really saying something. Yeah I'm with you. It's funny because people look at like for example. You had the sixty six win team. Obviously in Cleveland. But they didn't start like this even that team in Miami. Hi It's Jamie that one sixty something games They had that twenty seven game win streak. But that didn't happen until around the all-star break basically. Yeah he's notorious for getting off to slow so starts and you know the that that that the finals run the eight year run it just takes so much out of you like when when he would go through the motions in November and December if he knows his last couple of years in Cleveland what was I going to criticize them But I but I do think he recognized him. They couldn't afford to do that. Also with Anthony Davis he you know he he wanted to get into a rhythm with him that gave him a reason to really start the season in addition to the fact that he got the extra rather than he didn't go overseas in the summer because he was shooting. The movie basically is in town. The whole time have you. David gave him a reason to start the season with with that kind of focused plus the new coach and things like that so I think all of its come together. I couldn't be more impressed with the way they they were playing that last road trip they made I felt like they were sliding a little bit defensively in the wake of losing avery Bradley. They've lost their edge a a little bit Neither went to six games. I there Where they were sixteen defense after they've been in the top five? That defense has woken right back up. along this This trip out to Denver and Utah and so it's obviously incredibly impressive. You have to. You just love Lakers right now. And I even feel like they're look there's going to be ebbs and flows to this on the defensive side where I think you in Richard Jefferson earlier this week. We're talking about this right where there's going to be times where it'll be a little looser but they know that they can play defense now after playing this way for most of twenty some odd games like they know that they can kind of turn it on and off when they need to now. Is that fair to say. Yeah but they did pick it back up see if they have continued to slide outta continue have been worried right. They lost their focus. A little bit you know. Believe it or not. Their numbers really fell off after avery. Bradley got hurt. It can't be all him but you know you can't ignore that they really did fall off To go into Denver in Utah Two teams that were coming off losses in the Utah Situation. Utah Rescue Advantage at-home playing on the second team on the second back to back George. Their winning percentage in situations like that since they came into the leaks say took the team from New Orleans is got to be somewhere in the seven. Fifty two eight hundred uh-huh and not only that but they knew what kind of victory would be over the Lakers. who had three or four guys who were sick to come in and just to stop trump them just just you know rush them out of the building and the place for Lebron had just never had success? I think he's the only one there seventeen years. He's the only one on their two or three times Just I couldn't be more impressed. I mean you know. It's all December and all that stuff you qualify for being the middle of their early December. I couldn't be more impressed impressed with a team that I am the Lakers right now. Oh Yeah I agree. I mean the one thing I've noticed is like they've got a real identity. Defensively we talked about it but even on offense right the ball moves really well and they still only kind of scratched the surface on the Lebron. Anthony Davis pick and roll stuff. Like they do it sparingly. But I feel like that's something something. They've got still kind of in their bag for when they need it in the postseason when things slow down some through. Anthony Davis Levada playing great. So that's not unexpected. It's good news but not unexpected. Alex Caruso spectacular spectacular defensively. His defensive metrics make him look like one of the best defensive players players in the league. Right now I know that's maybe not a hundred percent but you look at the actual analytics. Yeah Oh screw. So is near the top defensive rating 95.5. It's incredible right when Rhonda came back. I expected that to be an issue. It hasn't been in fact. Rondo and Caruso played together. which when I heard that I wondered what Frank Vogel is doing that has worked then? Of course you have Dwight Howard who I did not expect him. I believe that he was gonNA play a small role frankly because he he didn't have another choice but I did not think that he would be this kind of effective so just about every button pushed the sheer has worked COUPS MMA has not been as good And I think that's actually probably a good thing because you expect him to play better because you know he's better than this so I expect some of these guys to come back to a little little bit but I also expect to play better. Brian Horse joining us here. ESPN NBA insider. I want to get to Kuzin his second. But you mentioned dwight how surprised. Forget about the Lakers. There's right like how surprised are people around the league. You talked to so many people around the league. How surprised are about what they're seeing from? Dwight stunned with was over. Here was over The nature of what happened in Washington a multiple fronts. The injury The way he had you know promised to make changes in the past and didn't people have screws over And you know had cousins not gotten hurt. What what are you been signed by a team? I don't know I mean the Dwight Howard and Carmelo stories are amazing Because you know it wasn't like there was a a a strong minority out. There felt like oh no no these guys can play. It's just a matter of time. Nobody did nobody did and I mean the last couple teams white was on on themselves to get rid of him you know ATLANTA WANTED RHYTHM CHARLOTTE wanted. Cut Him straight out Washington still paying him because they get rid of them. How can how can a guy get sent off by four consecutive teams that he's going to have a positive report but he did and I I will say this one thing about the NBA one thing about basketball general but especially the NBA that we learn when we watch the league is there's always time? Seasons seasons are long games are long. Playoff series are long careers in a Lotta cases are long. There's always time and I would say that to anybody who thinks that they're stuck in a situation. There's always time into white and Carmelo are clapping example. That for sure Brian Joining us here on the Sodano show on. ESPN LA coups. Moreau quick I look at it and I think he's probably better suited whenever. Anthony Davis wants to play the five which is rare but I think in the postseason I think he could be more effective because he can play a more natural stretch for position. I mean how do you envision him fitting in the look accused story when you look at the history of guys who play with Lebron the guys who defend in the guys who shoot those are the guys who work next to him okay. And he's not really either he's not a great defender and he you know has moments generally not a good shooter You know oh he's a little bit better this year And you know who tends to seem to agree. Is Frank Vogel. Because he's been playing him. I twenty two minutes a game and and that's not just a pre production thing like if it's the coach deciding he's only you know with where they're at right now he's giving him and you know when you look at a guy like Danny Green. If if you've got a choice to play Danny Green or cow Kuzma again. You play the guy who can defend shoe. It just fits better with Lebron So that's that's the thing I don't know how good of a fit kyle. How KUZINA is with Lebron in general? Then you take them the fact that you brought in a guy that places physicians. WHO's a first team second team all? NBA Player Anthony Davis. It makes it tough for him. It means he's going to have to adjust his game a little bit and the member one of the things that they realize didn't work so well with the Brown last year with these young guys who didn't necessarily have proved themselves. The League had gotten paid. They struggle a little bit to change their games. They brought all these guys who had gotten paid had championships. We're in sort of the back. Phase of their career would be a little bit more willing to sit into a role. That's who has to go and he hasn't been paid yet and so if I were him I would be thinking about. If that I'd be worried about that I'd be worried about. Am I going to get the kind of contract. I think I can get if I'm only playing twenty minutes You know I don't know if. That's a factor. But you know how could not the it's human nature so but as I said there's always time we're very early in the season But you know just on paper. It doesn't look like Kuzma's degraded sit but I I we've said on paper. A lot of things about the Lakers wouldn't work. That are working. Great last thing You've seen so many Carmelo. Lebron battles obviously both at different stages of their career. But you mentioned how great mellow just the story is. What is your best memory of those two guys facing off against each other? Well the first time they were played against each other when and they were sixteen and seventeen years old when Lebron had thirty six thirty four. And that's an high school thirty two minute game. You know and you know to think that you saw those two guys. I think that was in two thousand one so now you're talking eighteen years later and they're still playing against each other That these guys met each other at a USA basketball camps in Colorado when they were fifteen and sixteen and they later ended up winning. Gold medals. Together you know it's not any one moment it's just the history of it. I mean the Carmella was there for Lebron I tone game as the cavs. Mellow one Mellon Mello. was there the night that Lebron came back to Cleveland. That huge moment in the in his career coming back to Cleveland Mellow one. By the way you know the the the irony is Mellow L. O.. Has had a pretty good record against the mellows. Lebron a lot of losses more than I think they can. Kobe did believe it or not. So you know any one moment is not gonNA usurp their entire history But you know they've been together an awful lot on the same team on other teams changing uniforms different phases of their career. One on a good team one son shaky team it's been it's been an incredible history and Made another chapter Tomorrow night there is Brian Horse. ESPN NBA insider Brian. Thanks the time and always appreciate it. Thanks George you got it there. Is Brian Windhorst with us here on this show on. ESPN LA coming up next. Clay Helton man. You guys are mad. We'll touch on that. 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But you're only a couple of years away from that and every parent who's listening right now has lived through that at some point or another. That's my house your David Anyhow. I show Klay Elton is back with. USC and man. Dan People are not happy including our own who you can listen to each and every morning on the morning show keyshawn elsie and Travis Keyshawn Johnson. Here's Mukisa I am mad as hail and I don't like it and I feel like the athletic director. Who came in Mr Bonehead? Okay do that name name was comedy. It not do is due diligence at the level that he needed to when I go back and look at his track record as an athletic director and every stop that he's ever ever been at. I don't see anybody that makes me jump up and go okay. He hired that. Got The right guy in Colorado. Every coach was a disaster. You look at Cincinnati. Luke fickle doing a good job Cincinnati but se's not Cincinnati. They're about to be okay you. They're not far off when you think about where does university is head is football program. You're getting ready to roll into a new year. Getting Ready to face Alabama. First of all you gotta get out of this season so depending on what ball game you wind up in and I don't even know the dates of the ball game but I think it'd be like the Alamo Bowl which is probably thirty thirty something like that you can ready to roll into the new year basically basically at Owen one so just imagine if you had a bowl game in January you'd start off owing to in the New Year. 'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA get smacked by Baylor Oklahoma if if you plan them in. Alamo man you gotTa Face Nick Sabin in Alabama and for people that really really honestly think Nick Save Alabama's not gonNA turn it back around by even if they didn't have a better football team in programming you let me tell you something for key and key always keeps it real. There's no doubt about that. But it pains key to say that like I'm telling you I know the dude I it pains to say it. But he's GonNa keep it real and it doesn't look good because they're probably not GonNa win the ball game and I like Klay Man Claes a good man but the probably not GonNa win the ballgame and they are absolutely GonNa get smacked against Alabama. It don't matter who the hell is lining up against UC in that game like that is going to be a thing so key continued this morning to go on about Mike Bone the athletic director of USC. Let's see who is clearly not a fan of you elect to hire a keep clay Helton you put out reports or somebody reports saying it was a twenty million dollar buyout when in actually actually was probably about eight two seven seven eight so you could have did that now if you did not. And I don't know this fact if you did not reach out to some of does other head coaches that are available sitting on the couch if you didn't then you've just done this university a disservice because you don't get it clearly you don't get it you you you're not connected you you you don't understand. And that is part of it he you know he may not understand what's going on but yeah I don't always think that's a bad thing is having an outsider. Shake things up now. You don't have to agree with it but I do think that part of US's problem and this is the one point. I would disagree Rickie on part of the. US's problem is they always stick to within the Trojan family and that clearly hasn't worked either. So while I I'm stunned that they kept Klay Elton And I am stunned by the number he just gave because I read too. It was a twenty million dollar by out for him and his whole staff and key says it's like seven or eight. I think that that does change the math a little bit. But I have my theories on this. I've got a theory as to why clay Helton was kept number one. The president likes him number. Two the president it wasn't going to hire urban Meyer like I don't believe that careful as a woman considering everything that transpired at the end of Urban Meyer's tenure at Ohio state was going to hire a coach like him. I didn't believe I don't believe it. I didn't believe it then. I don't believe it now And clearly that's the way it turned out and we had talked about that numerous times on the shows that we've had. Here's the other thing I think and I'm gonNA give my bone the benefit of the doubt. I don't know my bone. I don't know him at all. I'm just theorizing here. I think they look at whatever the buyout number one they feel like. That's not prudent to be paying for a coach and a staff. That won't be working for you so I kind of get that a little bit and I think that the events that just transpired two things it was reported by our next guest is coming up in a few minutes. Scott Wolf that they talked to Bob stoops but they had an issue with how much much money his staff was going to cost so clearly mike bone is interested in the bottom line. And you know let's just cut the difference and say it's not twenty million but it's not eight somewhere in the middle fourteen. Maybe he feels. That's too much to eat when you had to bring in a Bob stoops and pay him ten million dollars plus his staff two or three million dollars dollars so I would brought in Bob stoops because if you're going that deep at that point if you're GONNA pay ten million for the coach you might as well pay two million for the staff but he he clearly has a line that isn't feel like he can cross or his boss told him he couldn't cross. And lastly here's my other theory. Chris Peterson over the weekend resigned from Washington. Somebody who's been on. US's radar for a long time. I think that that's the guy they're targeting they're saying ourselves. One more year of clay the number becomes more palatable eligible financially and then we go after Chris Petersen I run those theories by Scott off of inside. USC He joins us in just a few moments. Stick around back here on this show here on. ESPN Bien L. A.. And obviously we've been talking a lot about Klay Hilton staying at USC. Not everyone is thrilled about that. So we'll have some more of that to discuss in just a moment but let's talk to Scott Wolf inside. USC Dot blog is where you find his work. He's done some phenomenal work on this alleged coaching. Search that never actually. It became a coaching search. So Scott what. Were your thoughts when you finally heard that clay was coming back. I just thought they couldn't possibly be this stupid soup. ID Meaning might phone the Athletic Director and Carol the President to continue this madness for the past few years of Clay Helton as the coach and I didn't think they would want to screw over the fan base so blatantly and infuriate them and You know these two people were heroes a month ago amongst the fans and now they're villains and I don't know how they're going to rescue their reputations at this point so there is the reasoning behind keeping clay. Well you know it just backup. They went about four days before they announced he was coming back And I know they were talking to other coaches. I've written that. They talked to Bob Stoops and there was a hangup over coaches salaries which led to them breaking off talks so I think they were looking for another coach for a certain amount of time time and then I think they just decided we're going to keep clay Helton and now we're gonNA pretend like we wanted to keep him all along and we're GonNa talk about his integrity and what a great guy he is and how he's the right man for the program and all the other talking points and You know I don't know they. They didn't do an exhaustive search for a successor. I really don't understand their philosophy on this because it's a pretty easy job to hire for. USC There are a lot of people. I would want that job and I. I don't know maybe they just didn't WanNa take a risk and you know they didn't want it take a chance. And if they couldn't get a marquee guy they just decided we'll go status quo. I don't get the and I did see your report on the Bob stoops stuff like I don't get how you go down that path and then can't close the deal deal because of staffing issues. That seems silly to me. Yeah I mean. I don't know you know the fiscal even had some issues. The last Few years and you know if you look at some coaches they've hired they're much lower salaries than what they used to pay ten or fifteen years ago. But you're going to start over with with football. You gotTa make that commitment and they do have the money if they really wanNA spend it so you know people are saying the buyout was a factor in not getting rid of helping but they're gonNA lose millions of dollars in ticket revenue Donations other things. So you know either way. They they have problems and they could've excited the fan base and There would have been parties on the campus. I can tell you there with some celebrating going on Arizona State. Yesterday I heard what the coaching staff may hurt. Klay Helton's coming back but yeah I don't know this is USC. Yeah I mean things. Don't make sense quite often to be honest with you. Scott Wolf inside. USC Dot blog is joining us. Here on the Sodano show here on on. ESPN LA so okay. I mean they are in bed now with clay. I have a theory. You tell me what you think of this theory that they're stick with him and clearly if things stay status quo next year. Maybe they try to entice Chris. Peterson what do you make of that theory. Well I mean that's a theory that you know it logical but the problem one of the problems is they have a pretty talented talented roster by PAC twelve standards so even a coach as big of a joke as Clay Helton is GonNa should be able to win Games in the PAC twelve about got conference and what happens if they win. Eight games or nine games. Next year you know how do they fire him then versus today or versus a year ago when he was five and seven. So I don't know As far as Chris Peterson everything I hear about him is that he would hate being in an environment like Los Angeles. So so I don't know but I I mean. They hired him Six years ago but apparently they couldn't convince him and pat hate and didn't know what he was doing on the search anyways 'cause he also passed over at odor on so he he made the wrong choice a couple times on that search when he hired eighteen thirteen Liam. Yeah that that era didn't necessarily go so well either. What do you make of my bone? I don't know how many interactions you've had with him but I mean clearly you're not a fan of this particular decision but what do you make of him over all the new ad or he'd been great since He got hired heard. I mean he's accessible. He goes up to fans and talks to anybody. I mean very open. But he's now made this decision that defines signs him and he's getting killed on twitter. He's getting killed. You know. People are texting me emailing me. I mean I haven't seen anger Bangor like this towards anybody at USC. Like I am right now. So he's just ruined his reputation. 'cause people you know wanted to. Hi Fi I of him when he got hired and you know they were just counting the days till he was GonNa make a coaching change and now he sounds like he's making hostage videos when he does interviews about how great a coach Clay Helton is and what a great job he did. And how great recruiting is even though it's ranked seventieth in the country right now would. Would it be fair to say that basically clay was the beneficiary of a good. NFL quarterback and an end talent. Obviously the quarterback position does make things a lot easier. Well I've been saying that he lived off Sam Darnold for years now and You know I know people that work in the I think department refer to him as the luckiest man alive and they talk about you know he played Arizona. State a few weeks ago without Jaden Daniels. chase garber got hurt in the first quarter of a CAL game. Stephen Montas got hurt in the Colorado game. I mean you can go back. Mosque got hurt in the a Utah. Game I mean you can go down the line and just look at you. Know all these People and they're not playing. You know a great team to begin with in the PAC twelve twelve so he got a lot of luck to to help him and he still only eat out. Eight wins so you know they gave up five hundred and forty yards in the offense to ucla a couple of weeks ago. So there's a lot of problems and they're GONNA probably fire couple assisting coaches In an effort to help him out well well that was going to be my follow up question what to expect about the turn turn around potentially on his staff like who's in WHO's out. Well I wouldn't WANNA be lead. John Baxter the special teams coach or clancy tender gas. The defensive coordinator and I've also heard Johnny Nansen. The recruiting coordinator could be in trouble trouble. But you know here's the other nightmare Graham Herald the offensive coordinator. I hear wants to go to Texas. So what if he leaves. He's like the one in Guy Segment of fans think is the bright spot around there and if they lose him than they have to replace the offensive and defensive coordinators. And you'RE GONNA have to go get somebody who's going to come in and work for a lame duck potentially right and somebody that knows how to run the air raid offense. So you know they're gonNA play in a bowl game here. They may have no offense coordinator for that game. Wow what what are some names that you're hearing for some of these positions. It could be vacant. Well I mean I know some former players are trying to you know get some People look at it but right now it's so early I mean I don't know Klay. Home has no no coaching tree. No contact basically so there really. Isn't anyone one that they've talked to yet but I don't know how it's going to be hard to get somebody. I think. Somebody mentioned Jack del Rio he'd be nuts as a former. NFL head coach to come and be defensive coordinator no chance. I don't buy that for a second but that's the kind of speculation you get before they fire. Anybody started interviewing people but most of his Coaching hire for his staff over. The years have been uninspiring name. So I I mean Eh. Ingraham Herald wasn't even popular with a lot of people up until the last couple of weeks of the season when he got to play. UCLA and You know but he's being pursued by Texas right now so trump Texas so makes perfect. And here's why would he want to stick around here and get fired in a year. Yeah so it makes a lot of sense for him to go to Texas if he gets offered that job and lastly Scott Scott Wolf else inside. USC DOT blog recruiting. What do you make of where that stands at the moment well you know despite the rosy comments of Mike Bonin Klay held? I think this class is pretty much you know going to be bad. The worst in history in terms of the rankings. The bigger issue I think of the junior class and now is going to get beaten up by all these schools like Garrod on a State Oregon and Lsu. I should throw them in there because they are going to swoop in here and tell everyone will. US's Clay Helton who doesn't doesn't develop players and if even going to be your coach you don't know and I know kids in this senior class said I might have gone to USC. But I didn't know who the coach was going to be. So they still have all this uncertainty surrounding the program that they've had for twelve months already and it's GonNa last another twelve months and the big problem. Is You know they they told me over at USC. There's probably three to four five star recruits. Who would have flipped flipped to USC? If Urban Meyer had gotten hired so they could have made a big hire and gotten the recruiting class transform immediately. But that's not going to happen now. There is Scott Wolf inside. USC Dot blog is where you find work. Excellent stuff is always Scott. Thank you so much of the time. I know it's been busy for you. Appreciate it only time you got it. There is take Care Scott Wolf with us here inside. USC DOT blog coming up next. We'll switch gears to the NFL. Me CIMES JAMES IS GONNA join us our friend can the rams actually make the playoffs. There may be more of a possibility than you think. We'll get to that in just a moment. Stick around back and four and a half minutes here on E._S._p._N. L._A..

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Mason and Ireland (HR 2)

"I'd E._S._P._N.. L._A. Mason in Ireland O._C.. Week is coming up for you one week from today that includes Mason movie night by the way that I <hes> Monday we are broadcast today from passaic hotel and SPA in Huntington beach. I'm excited because I get to stay in the hotel Sunday night. Wait a minute why you stay in the House your big time in the house. I am staying in the House. Oh you just got caught. We are in elitist. I refused I really am why be stopping by the House or some fun. You should stay in the hotel Monday night. 'cause that's the night you're going to be doing the movie and then you get a turn around and go right back there and Tuesday. You should talk to give you an extra night Monday night. I'm staying in the House you are not. You're lying all right. We were trying to track down now that we got him. We got our friend Ryan Abraham. I am who covers all all things U._S._C. for us and and Ryan's online now Ryan. How are you doing all right just got back from European vacation ready for football nice? Where where'd you go with golfing and Ireland Scotland well? Where'd you God cool? Where'd you go from Ireland? I got <hes> we did Waterville Ring of Keri K. Club but we've got to play the old course in Scotland which I was very excited Saint Andrew so that was very fun. Dad is awesome. Mason who never goes is going to try and play Golf Ryan next Thursday at Black Gold. Have you ever played it black gold yeah. That's a really tough track with good. Watch yeah there you go. You don't WanNa see this Ryan is by the way the owner earn publisher of U._S._C. FOOTBALL DOT COM Iran. I'm just GONNA throw a room ratchet and you tell me if you think it has legs. U._S._C. has a new president. There's been a bunch of scandal. They're not necessarily all athletics related a lot of it having nothing to do with the athletic not having anything to do with football <hes> but the rumor is that Lynn Swann is probably at the end of the rope as Athletic Director U._S._C. and might not make it through the year. Do you buy why is it seems seems possible. I don't know if it's probable <hes> talking to our friends mutual friend Bruce Feldman about it. He put it over under if like October I saw that exact thing yeah so curious to see I mean we haven't really see I thought there she careful what come in and make a big splashy started on July. First really hasn't been a whole lot going on but just so many fires to put out all this stuff academic side the medical the medical stuff with the with the football program moments in General F._B._I.. Arrest and all that stuff so I think she's got a lot of fires. Put Out I wouldn't be surprised by the end of the year so if if the different direction so I i read a piece about the transfer reportable and Klay Helton and one of the things that has happened is a couple of guys including brew McCoy went into the transfer portal clay said Nice things about them and then it came back around and and those guys came back. What do you know about that story yeah so brew McCoy definitely he enrolled at U._S._C. and then decide to transfer out what that was a really crazy time with cliff Kingsbury left Lewis Strength Coach left and and Christie was a guy that was committed minute for a long time at the end up going to Texas and then I mean he ended up going to <hes> my blackout? Where are you going to Florida that ended up transferring back <hes> but I think that's a good thing where it's sort of like if you break up with your girlfriend and you say nice things the way out but then you want to date or later you still can't if you burn the bridge and there's no way you're going to be able to do that in the Clayton's credit he didn't burn any bridges with these guys and was able to get these guys to come back into the fold so getting brew McCoy and Chris Dealer Huge They transferred uh-huh from Florida and Texas but we don't know if they're going to be eligible this year? They're still waiting to hear from the AA on that but I think that's that's you can chuck that up to Clayton's personality. He kept those doors open. Allow them to come back Ryan Abraham from U._S._C. FOOTBALL DOT COM with US Ryan. I think U._S._C. especially when you look at their football schedule is a six and sixteen so negative mason thinks he's very high in the air raid hearing he thinks eight to ten wins if you had to hit your wag into one of us which one of us is closer to being right Mason's eight to ten years Klay or my six wins. What do you think yeah I when I put it all down? I came up with seven and five but I can hear right in the middle but you can see what I I could. Let's see Mason being exactly right because they needed to make some changes and what we've seen an Aaron office coming in they change US strength program. The air raid like Mason was talking about or whatever you know they the version of it with Graham Herald. I think they're going to be a lot better. <hes> <hes> you know the the got most of the offense coming back and I think the defense is going to be simpler. They think they may Clinton made changes. It needed to be made and it's a really count the team if they go for Mike Five and seven nine wins. I think that's good on what he's done but it also shows how how bad they were less awake. Should they have ever been five seven so I but I think they can potentially do it but they're going to have to prove it to me. I I'm just not sure John if if I'm ready to pull the trigger said Yeah. They're going to win games like they can. They're counted up too but it's a tough schedule. It'll be tough to do so. There's some conversation that there's like an open quarterback situation there. I got to believe J._T.. Daniels is the guy right despite the fact that you know he's more of a pro style guy and they're going to the air raid. What do you thank you I mean he ran something very similar? At modern-day Highschool he started eleven games last year. That'd be really surprised if he wasn't the starter but all the quarterbacks look good in the spring and I think that you have to talk that up to even Lockheed slow us who came in as a true freshman from Arizona Kurt Warner coach in high school. I mean he's a true freshman coming in should still be high school and look good as well. I think you have to chuck that up to this. Air Raid System that that Graham heralds running is so much better and so much more simple oh and so much more efficient than what whatever their Gumbo stuff they were running last year so I think it it's GonNa make all the other quarterbacks look good and Clinton said they're gonNA compete you know all through all twenty five practices throughout the fall until you know the Friday before for the president's stake in it to me. It just doesn't seem like it's going to be any other way besides H.. E. J. gets to start but I think cloud really wants to show hey everyone's GonNa be competing or not going to name anyone the starter at any of the physicians outside of not even quarterback so I think they won't name him but most likely to me. He's going to be the starter Ryan. Abraham is our guest. We're talking U._S._C.. Football Ryan. I want to talk to you about the PAC twelve if it seems pretty wide open and you know they haven't been in the playoff in years and and they tend into cannibalize each other but if if I had to pick just looking at the big picture is Utah in the south Washington in the North or would you go a different way yeah. I think the media picked Oregon the north. I still think I think Washington could be a playoff team this year. They don't have that Auburn game on the schedule that kind of trip them up last year <hes> so I feel like Oregon's GonNa have to play that one early organs that the team that everyone loves they got the hype around and they had a huge recruiting class a lot of freshman though right ladder freshmen have to play for them yeah a lot of young players but I think with Chris Peterson. He's building up that talent at Washington and every year. It just seems to get better. I think they're going to be the class. I like you a lot. They bring back a lot on offense. I love tyler hotly Faucet running back. They got some playmakers. I think it'd be the favorite in the south but U._S.. Utah play really early in the season in that game could likely decide so I think it's going to be between U._S._C. and Utah the other force gold. It's just hard to kind of point right now but to me. I like Washington the most I I think that could actually make the playoffs this year but organs the one. That's getting all the hype U._S._C.. Schedule is so tight even Fresno state the team. They open with finish number eighteen in the country last year then Home Stanford at B._Y._U.. Home Utah at Washington at Notre Dame that is a brutal to enforce schedule right. It is you're listening to Caspian Los Angeles. Go Ahead Ryan Yeah two and four is not you know. It's not an unlikely situation. I mean we've seen one three starts before. It's it's a really tough schedule. Twelve twelve game winner Fresno State Jeff Tedford knows how to coach even though they lose a lot from their team last year and you're going to B._Y._U.. <hes> that team looked really good. At the end of the season I forget the quarterback name but he went eighteen of eighteen for like three hundred something MHM yards in the in the ball game <hes> I think all those and that's going to be on the road. All those games are going to be really tough any one of those teams capable of beating U._S._C. But U._S.'s talent is right up there with all of them except maybe maybe Notre Dame's GonNa get the edge on them even over Washington so if they play their game they can come out of that the probably about unscathed but they can come out pretty good like a foreign to start would be great and that would set up a really easy second part of the schedule but two and four I mean that's I think that's certainly on the table and that's not going to be voting. Well for this new at the key to the season is Ryan. The key to the season is air raid air rate is the quarterback meets time to throw. You were talking about U._C._L._A.. In the bound pistol hey wait Ryan U._c._L._A.. Eight wins. What do you think that's how big I mean? That's a huge game from last year from three wins to you know Kelly's great <hes> I think they're going to be a lot lot better actually starting to recruit a little bit. He just took a year off. I guess from recruiting but I think they'll be better. I think when go to a ballgame get like six wins but eight seems like a pretty big just six months that feels right. I say more Wins Than U._S._C.. Including win over the Trojans is at the end of the year again. Mason guaranteed victory over U._C._L._A.. Last year guaranteed it and U._C._L._A.. Just walked all over them kind of bet then we always do yeah we'll come something always matter of fact I think I bet like forty grand in mythical money on that game and hit it all but the thing is the Ryan Chip Kelly is. I don't think no matter what happens at U._C._L._A.. I think chip Kelly makes it to the season. If U._S._C. starts to and four that would put clay in trouble of not finishing the year. Wouldn't it yeah I mean Chip Kelly. You don't hire a guy like that and think about getting rid of a year to you have to let him do his thing and it's GonNa take a few years and might be slower than you thought but for Clay Hilton Yeah I mean a lot of U._S._A.. Fans felt he should have been fired after the five and seven these in last year so he's everyone talks about him being on the hottest of hot seats if you look at the PAC twelve he's really the only coach that's in danger this year. There's so many new coaches or second year guys. He's the guy. US A two and four start. That's <hes> I think it's his job would definitely be questioned. You WanNa fire your third coach in a row midseason probably not but at a two and four start after five at seven last year. I don't know if the administration would have much choice. We don't even know who would it'd be like you said who would take over. Who would take over for Oh yeah? That's a good question too. I mean you could have like a clancy pendergast. It could even be the young Guy Grant Heron heroin right John Baxter something but yeah. I don't think it's a lot of great candidates right now to have someone take over pay more about the future of the program Ryan. I always think that when people say Urban Meyer next year is going to be the coach at U._s._c. just connecting dots. I don't think there's any there's any smoke to that fire do you no I think it's more about connecting you could look at the situation go yeah. He's how many coaches have won national championships just not a lot. He happens to be unemployed. As far as coaching goes at work in your city so it makes sense to connect the dots but but nothing in U._S._A.. Administration history we have seen have they done anything like that. As far as a coaching goes the last time they hired a coach. It's been established was I think it was tower. Jones back really haven't done it. You know he won titles titles at Yale back then. I don't think that sense so this would be a complete one eighty from the the way they've done things going forward but a lot of U._S._A.. Fans WanNa see it. I'm just not sure unless there's some huge changes in the administration. I don't think that would happen of the school. Rule the clay health and should have been fired after last season <hes>. What do you think he needs to do this year to survive? That's a good question yeah. The off season changes. I think we're good. I mean you look at Grant Herald. That's a positive I just even aeronautics we had him in our studio for our show when he was great there this old school mentality eating steaks and lifting weights and I know it's a cliche when you get a new strength coach but he seems to really have captured the the hearts and minds of these players that I think they've changed the way they prepare this offseason but now that's gotTa turn into wins and I don't know if it's a win total. It's more about establishing a pregnant. Hey You WanNa win the PAC twelve again so I think they got at least win the PAC twelve south and beat a Utah team and that you know in the early on the season. I think you'll be okay. You can't win the PAC twelve south south. It's going to be really hard at the end of the season for everyone to look back and go you know what team is going in the right direction because they're talented enough to do it if they don't win it again this year. I think it's going to be a real problem all right. Hey Ryan thank you very much. I'm excited about the air raid raid. I'm not going to be there for the Fresno state game but I will be there for the Stanford game. That is a <hes>. That's a huge game for U._S._C.. It's a huge one all right. Thanks for coming. I'm an we'll talk to you soon anytime I on a cool U._S._C. Football Dot Com right Abraham there. It's been over in Scotland in Ireland Golfing. I'm very optimistic very jealous that guy. I'm very optimistic about the truth. Why what is your reserve survey rainy optimism Aaron what they change the way or another year of on Ross ain't Brown another year of Michael Pittman? I mean they're going to tyler vons. They're going to be explosive on the offensive side. It's whether or not the defense can play yet. You realize that the same guys who were coaching last year or coaching other not that's the whole thing anti Pentagram but now that I'm Klay Hilton is talking about offense talking about Klay Played Horn. Is He lining Graham call the place. Don't know the answer. That question asked Ryan Yeah. I think he probably has to if you hire them. You got a lot of you know he's running. His offense seems like come on your you one five games last year that guy call the place all right more Mason Cernan Ireland next E._s._p._N.. E._S._P._N. L._A.. Mason Ireland. I WanNa let you know that when we're at O. C. Week next week for all of our live remotes. You've got a chance to win an Anthony Davis Number Three Jersey and more you gotta be present to win and for complete list of our E._S._p._N.. O._C. events follow us on twitter instagram and facebook at E._S._p._N.. Los Angeles. We've got <hes> Anthony Davis Jerseys hanging in the studio right now. Hey let me ask you something yeah about the trade deadline which is Wednesday at one o'clock right. Yes okay so you keep hearing. Noah syndergaard is probably getting traded. Yes Trevor Bauer of the Indians is is a is a guy you hear a lot about could be traded. <hes> what about Zach grinky remember last year. It came up that Zach clerk is definitely on the block the Arizona diamondbacks our sellers sellers <hes> they've got Zakrzewski. They've got Robbie Ray potentially to be traded Andrew Chafee another a reliever that could potentially be traded <hes> they've even talked about trading David Peralta outfielder that they've who's been really productive for them so they are absolutely sellers. Zakrzewski is on the market. The question is does anybody WANNA take on. I think it's three years you make thirty five million a year. Three years left on that deal at thirty five million including this year yeah so the question is does anybody WanNa take on that money. or how much will the diamondbacks eat of that contract. How badly do they want out of its accurate? He's having a really good year. His fastball fastball is still low nineties ten and four with a two point eight era. He's he's been really really solid and you know I wonder twenty two starts a whip under one the Yankees are absolutely going to go out and get at least one starting hurting pitcher. I was surprised they weren't in on Marcus Stroman who wound up going to the mets <hes> but the Yankees have a tremendous bullpen. He's thirty five. Does that bother you sure does sure it does mean I the the money bought all star this year yeah all star but if you're taking all star three years running if you're taking taking on two years and seventy million dollars after this year the question is do you WanNa bet on Cranky. If I was the Yankees I would advise the Yankees. I look at grank yet. Look at Robbie Ray because right now if you had to we think the dodgers are GonNa win the National League if you had to pick a team to win the American League. I'd probably picked Houston. I'll tell you what it's a three horse race. It's Yankees it's Houston and do not sleep on the Minnesota twins well. They've been struggling though they've they've had a really bad July and the they you know the twins have pretty much been caught but I don't know if the Indians have what it takes to you know. Indians may very well be sellers. <hes> the Indians could be sellers did see trevor our did last night. I've never seen anyone do that if you so here's what he did he took the ball from the mount and he saw Terry Francona coming out of the Dugout to take him out. He took the ball in through it over the the Center Field Wall Yup. You're see anybody do that. Ever Francona was mad. I heard that Rob Dibble did it once in dibble did it into the stands in hit somebody out and ended up getting suspended by now. I think this guy it did it. He hit the the batter's background right in Kansas City. Maybe yeah and Terry Francona you can read his lips. When he comes out he goes? What are you doing and Bauer like immediately knew he had screwed up and after the game he apologized analogize to everybody to the fans? He apologized to his teammates. He apologized to <hes> to Francona he. He was very apologetic afterwards <hes> he's another guy that could potentially be traded other. You're right. Indians are two games back back. Nobody hits with twins. The twins just hit homerun accept in July. They've really cooled off into lie and you don't know whether or not they're going to be in it knee and Trevor Bauer by the way nine nine and eight with a three point eighty R._A.. I'm so statistically grinky as much better than Bauer but Bauer is a lot younger bowers twenty eight and Cranky thirty five and I don't think by the way I don't think the dodgers are in on either of those guys cranky or do you know we heard the rumor that syndergaard they were kicking the tires on syndergaards in a guard because he's under a cost controlled contract for two more years makes sense. I and the fact that hundred view is a free agent engine. After this year he was on a seventeen point nine million dollar qualifying offer and Richhill who they hope to get back end of <hes> August ritual is thirty nine years old and he'll be a free agent at the end of this year so they're going to have to rebuild. We build that rotation. If you think about next year you still got bueller still got Kershaw you slide syndergaard in there and <hes> along with <hes>. I blanked on his name for the dodgers yeah well. The dodgers are going to the Walker. Bueller is going to be Taylor. Shy side you had if you add syndergaard and Richhill is probably gonNA retire right. No reuse could walk away a one in your seventeen point nine stripling reassuming rippling. Here's what Jayson Stark says. Come up yeah. Here's what Jayson Stark says about Bauer Indian still unlikely to deal Bauer but it's been interesting to hear reactions is to the ball heave incident. I've heard everything from no impact on his value to dropped precipitously because owners won't want that stark ads he his guests isn't won't be a problem this winter. It's a performance based business. I mean a role Aroldis. Chapman had that off the field incident and teams were lining up to trade for him so I don't I think throwing a ball of the Center Field Wall will be forgiven. Ziara comes down yeah by the way the <hes> dodgers have signed Tyler Thornburgh who was cut loose by the red sox right <hes> he was a productive reliever a couple of years ago with Milwaukee. He's been terrible this year but anytime the dodgers claimed somebody <hes> or signed somebody somebody I always think they're in the same way Muncie in the same way Taylor. They may be something that they can fix and maybe they see something in Tyler Thornburgh that they can fix. I don't think he's a bullpen solution but maybe they can fix them and turn them into something right which which happens with pitchers more often than you think yeah they with Brandon Morrow Brandon Brandon rural exactly I'm GonNa Pivot here and ask you a question about the clippers. Yes Steve Bomber did an interview over the weekend and bomber says he wouldn't be adversely insane. He's going to do it but he said he wouldn't rule out if they get their new arena you know they're. I'm trying to build that new arena in Inglewood Yup if they get that new arena he'll consider changing the clippers team name and logo yet when they opened the arena. Would you do that yeah if you were him. Yes absolutely it is kind of we're thinking about because think of the one word use word association all right Yup Clippers losers right and and you know some people will deny that but that's that's what people associated with them and bomber with all that money if he was too you know basically and you know the clipper name came from San Diego you know when when they were you no clippers exactly now is that bomber. Is it Chris Farley. That's all Balmer. That's all bomber yeah okay. That's up bomber. That's that's I just to the point where I can't tell them apart yeah. I just want to believe that is that is bomber. Let's just say that's bombs now. It sounds the same there. I don't see a difference between that and that absolutely could be the same guy I know. The Great Ralph lawler was just retired was really against changing the team name in the logos because you know Ralph had a lot of investment in that heritage but most people associate that clipper name with failure yeah if you were to get a brand new arena and a fresh start changing the name and the team coverage wouldn't be ridiculous and what would you what would he changed changed their name to what would I just put it out on twitter. What would the clippers changed their nickname to? If Clippers goes away <hes> what are they change it to and do they still go with Los Angeles. Do they go. Oh I don't WanNa they stay with Los Angeles. I WANNA go. It's close enough. I know one thing they could do what I'll tell you next Mason in Ireland E._s._p._N.. L._A. John This you're not even listening. No I'm listening Taylor. Swift swift as Clayton Kershaw says if you don't like Taylor swift you're lined yourself self really yes that yes. He does all right so you if I if I was put in charge of changing the clipper name Yup and changing their colors and do all right so what are you guys think the most most recognizable helmet in the N._F._l.. Is and it's not close by the way raiders no bengals snow cowboys cowboys crasher giant star inside. I changed the name of the team to Hollywood stars and and try it gets here's the thing with the clearest Ben Hollywood star baseball team but the here's the thing with the clippers. This is always going to be a Laker town. No matter what Lakers own yes Angeles you either either call them the Hollywood stars or the Hollywood nights and go with kind of a game of thrones theme go medieval but you have to zinc you can't just try and compete with the Lakers on their own turf because the Lakers on on the city. They're the biggest team in the city and that's it. I said many times times that if I was Steve Bomber I'd moved the team to Seattle Not GonNa do that now. That's been the overwhelming response to your. He's going to do the opposite he. He's going to dig in he. He wants to keep theme here so if if you if you put that restriction on me I would change. I'd call them the Hollywood either stars or nights. What would you do I would go in this was suggested on twitter by Johnny Own Ellie? I like the Los Angeles Junior varsity. I like the Los Angeles by the way I think his nickname is ball's. I like the L. A.. Balls B L L Z between all of them all the balls yeah so it's like balls balls about all all these so. The hat is like Los Angeles Boswell's also. I think that's an idea although I still like the junior varsity were if this this new signing of Paul George and quite Leonard Woods to lead them to title title then. I don't think bomber changes anything if you have if you've got a if you if you were to buy some act of God get a banner so somebody just wrote I think renaming the clippers is probably Jeff. I think renaming the clippers is probably get idea considering learn how awful these people did with their choice of mascot. What do you think they're gonNA go with? Go condors talk. The duck cut the non yet so that would be it but I don't. I don't think the Lakers have too much history trine too much heritage in the market. Don't think they can ever compete with. I don't think they ever can I wouldn't either moved Orange County or move to Seattle somebody suggested give an honor Dr Grant Stevens. How about the L._A.? Dreaded moves the L.. A. Dreaded moves. I think that is very catchy in honor of Dr Grant Stephen But bomber you know with all that bankroll behind him bomber. Normally you know look what he's done so far so good job since taking over announced or whatever he does. How's it might work? They've built this office. They laid the the runway for Kawhi and Paul George and you know they're certainly you know a top shelf. Here now forced to be recognized absolutely all right how about a little mythical money I once a mythical money any by the way brought to you by Bicycle Hotel and casino I once a mythical money on Friday night I twenty five hundred on the dodgers minus a run and a half okay. They are in Colorado tonight. It is John Gray the lefty for the rockies versus Kanta my eight. I don't like dodgers minus one and a half but you know what I like. I like game total over twelve and a half so that this is the total amount of runs scored in the game regardless of the winner correct. I'm going twenty five hundred dollars on the over which is when I say ten and a half twelve twelve and a half twelve and a half the over over the twelve and a half you want the other side Joan Yeah. I'll take inside why not twenty five hundred thousand you have less money than you bet with. No guts man I so here's here's gumption. Thank Eighty. Thanks my grandmother <music> mother. I know gumption the twelve. That's a lot of red so if if if it is Colorado yeah if it six to five I win right okay at seventy five. I win good enough yeah it. It just seems by that we will Smith was so good on Saturday he at one point he had six R._B._I.. Two doubles in a home run any Mr Grand Slam by foot and a half just a little bit higher you would have been so. I don't think SRB is yes. I don't think he's coming out of the lineup anytime soon and a lot of people think they're gonNa Bring Gavin lex up before the September for could I mean you know T._k.. Or anandas is probably going to have to go on the I L. I don't know if that announced announcement has been made yet. I don't think he has gone on the injured list yet and he's meant to. I don't think he has access is injury worse than I think it is because they went out and got some Veasley sign somebody who does what he does. A great helling is supposed to be out <hes> they all know you. He's supposed to be going on the I l Sunday any day. Now neither today or tomorrow just like <hes>. Oh yeah the that's the new list is called the injured list. It's very hard to say injured. You're listening to the disabled this. They were sensitive to you know like that story. You did last week Mace about Berkeley taking all the the they didn't WanNA use the word say don't actually have any problem with this. When do you actually have a problem with no but I think it leads to doing what happened in Berkeley? You'd then all of a sudden you're just getting rid of any word that could be remotely cons- what would you say they're not using the word manhole cover. They're calling it a maintenance coming into its maintenance all maintenance all yeah. They're saying a month's time time a month. Okay <hes> they picked up today. They made a minor trade. <hes> for a guy by the name of <hes> Christian Christian Neg- Ron <hes> played ten games so Seattle this season he started in the outfield in five of the mariners last six games also played eighteen games last year he sitting to seventeen five for twenty twenty-three in the majors AAA had three ten average with twelve home runs fifteen doubles four triple sixty one R._B._i.'s and an eight Ninety Nine O. P. S. in eighty two games at AAA so you never know with these guys man they pick up these foray guys guys who have hung around in the minor leagues for a long time like Max Muncie and Chris Taylor and they turn them into something. Christian natron is a utility guy who can't play some second base by the way if we warmed up up okay so we get a twenty minute warm up yeah we couldn't do it. Trevor Bauer did right. No God no if we tried to throw a ball from the mount. Oh no I over the fence. I'd be in surgery within in an hour. That's like I know it's crazy what he did and everyone's calling him a nutjob. It's pretty impressive can most players do that. I think most players can most players can do that. It's not that it's not that impressive live but I don't think there's anyway you and I could do it for the pitch about three hundred feet right from the pitcher's mound to the outfield fence Lamar because most centerfield fences are like what four ten yeah four ten and the pitchers man sixty feet six inches there would be yeah no chance now I I couldn't do it but they do it all the time that's normal. None of none of us in here in this room can make that throw no can even no matter how much we warm up that would be honestly that'd be a rotator cuff injury almost right off the bat. If you tried to do that pretty much pretty impressive might be able to do it. Can you do it. Running Start Carlo. Maybe running start would help but term brower just took two steps and threw it yeah no that's and as it was a Keith Law said his trade value immediately dipped. Maybe I don't know if I believe that. Let's see I'll tell you. The Indians are two games out. I don't think I do anything on the Indians there right there the right there. I don't think I trade brad hand. I don't think I trade Trevor Bauer. I mean I think I'm hanging in there may Indians. Maybe this deadline will be quieter than any of us think or it's going to explode Wednesday at one okay so the dodgers have a game Wednesday noon so the trade deadline is actually happening while they're on the field interesting in Colorado Yeah so they have a game Wednesday noon in the trade lines I mean Andrew Friedman and his crew don't need to worry about the game they'll just be busy working on and trades but a player could be in uniform in the dugout and get traded during a game which doesn't happen very often but <hes> they could before either team right. You know an hour into that game is the trade deadline all right. I want to ask ski next. Think about this. The most admired man in the world who is the most admired man in the world the world the world right now right now. Okay think about that Okay Light E._S._P._N.. L._A. Mesa in Ireland we got fasttrack ten minutes and then by the way after fasttrack giving away another four pack of tickets to join me for Mason Movie Night For O._C.. Week one week from tonight. It's fast and furious presents Hobbs and Shaw at the Regal Cinemas and Garden Grove will do that a right after fast track all right put a question to you and Greg you can do this greg left okay so you can't do this. J You can do this. I asked a question in this by the way is his <hes>. According to an international survey <hes> who is the most admired man in the world and I'm guessing I'm I've got a list of the top ten. I'm guessing you're not going to get number one but take a shot okay most admired man in the world. I don't think it's a politician even though I think there are many politicians on your list yes top ten because politics are divisive in nature if half the people love you the other half done yep somebody you know in somebody buddy who is American. Okay okay that helps because I was gonNA say the pope so it can't be the pope so it's gotta be. Somebody don't think the pope actually made the list. That's sad for pope not well again. There's five of them right one one and only one religion this person's alive right yeah no all right greg so let's let's just admired. Living person came the American yeah. It's gotta be somebody okay. I don't think it's an athlete Tom Cruise No. I don't think it's an actor I think it's gotta be somebody WHO's given a lot of things to charity. Somebody like Warren Buffett Me Bill Gates. Maybe no just died right. It wouldn't be Amazon guy no basis because he does the opposite. You have an official pick Warren Buffett. You have said the name so it's Bill Gates. It's bill tollgates is number one because he's given away like ninety percent of his wealth number number. Two is President Barack Obama and number three is Jackie Chan Jackie kitchen who is who is an absolute legend in the Far East a legend and what's not to like about Jackie Chan now. Is there an athlete on that list in the top ten. Yes all right. Let me see being free. Actually that is as I'm guessing not from one of the three major U._S.. Sports not from football basketball baseball right right. This guy is number seven it's going to be it's going to be one of those two Greg. It's either Lino messy or Cristiano Renaldo. I'll say it's messy. Messy messy is number nine and there's another athlete and it's not Rinaldo. It is Rinaldo okay. Rinaldo is number seven okay so there are two athletes. Other people on the women on the list are the most admired okay <hes> number four is the Chinese president number five is a Chinese businessman named Jack Ma who founded the alibaba group. Yeah heard of that guy number six is the prime minister of India number. Seven is Rinaldo number eight is the Dalai Lama number nine is a nominee total consciously no mess bid and number ten because it's worldwide is Vladimir. Putin didn't know <hes> but yeah that's entering. Bill Gates is actually a pretty good choice because he he makes millions and gives most of it away. What are you doing with most of your money? I actually I can tell you right now that most of my money he is being given away what money I have. Obviously I have no heirs right and don't intend to have any. I don't have any errors that I know God. I knew you're on their idiot. No not not that I know I will give you a complete moment of honesty. Okay Yep it all depends as people who listen to the show. I have a special needs kid. I was on the autism spectrum it all depends on if he's going to be able to shirt move out and make a living if he's able to move about and make a living on his own. I'll I'll be able to give if not I got. I got to make sure whatever money I have takes care of him for the rest of his light. Oh of course you of an air. That's a different situation yeah and he will. I mean I would imagine he will need the financial support right. I don't know yet it's too early to tell he but mostly their money to their kids most people that I've talked to said I should and I'm already doing this. I should put money specifically aside for care for him as an adult right but I don't if he turns out if he finds his way and get yo creates a niche and is able to work and support himself then that changes the equation but yeah you you'll be able to <hes> to to you do a lot of different charitable causes although what happens if one outlives you you're older than him right right he will. I'm just going to give 'em no I will. I'm assuming he well. He will get it but I'm assuming that then he'll give it away that he will give give it away as as I've laid out but yeah you know people like Warren Buffett are not leaving their fortunes to their kids correct. They're giving most of their money to eight yeah bill that ten. What is it ninety ninety percent group ten percent groups on like that they've pledged to give most of it away right because how much she needed to leave the you would assume that kids of Bill Gates? I don't know if he has many children. I know he's married but would have a tremendous headstart already. You know that they would be okay right so we'll see but that's interesting question what you should do with your money when you're gonNA like Warren Buffett has three kids right and you would imagine leaving them some money but most is fortune. He's giving away yeah good for him. which is which is cool? It and I think a lot of it depends on what affected you in life. You know the store charities you give to and what you try and fix if if I said I would I saw T._v.. Show once probably the West Wing Rich Guy. This was like Sirkin plotline right went to C._J.. And said I'll give you ten billion dollars to address any problem in the world but you get to pick the problem so I'm giving you ten billion dollars. You can't spread it around right giving you ten billion dollars to attack something off the top of your head. What would you apply it towards <hes> well right? Now you know my my hometown has become Los Angeles. <hes> and the single biggest problem facing Los Angeles and drive by everyday is homelessness so I would find a way hey to address homelessness. <hes> specifically in Los Angeles Kobe is actually doing a lot busy yeah the answer that C._j.. Gave which I I can't remember if this was written by Sorkin or after he left the show was she says it's not that sexy and you're not gonNa like the answer and the guy says in this guy was basically playing Bill Gates and the guy said what is it. She said it's infrastructure. Oh she said we have the means to tackle poverty homelessness and and we have medicines that can fix a lot of people. We can't get it to them right so that's what I would do. I would take it. I would figure out a way for people most marriages roads trains get the medicine and the allies to the people that that was that was her answer okay so a couple of reminders number one Friday this Friday on his on a suggestion from Sodano Yup. We are doing our first ever fast track Friday. The whole show yes is fasttrack. <hes> Mason and I won't be the one's asking all the questions but we will be giving answers to all of like Marquette's. Our top salesperson is going to come up with a question. Oh He's already doll yet. He's already locked in for a time ave greg. You'RE GONNA do at least one segment I am at least one sakes also doing a whole segment. Do you WanNa know some of the people that are doing all right so at twelve thirty Amanda Brown is going to do a whole segment excellent choice twelve forty Marquette's is going to do a segment sponsored by Marquette's knows March micro thin itself. No Mark Carpool Selva could sell snow to the ESKIMO. Yeah I'M GONNA do from twelve fifty five to one ten Jay is going to do from one thirty two one thirty seven Brian Cabinets doing one forty and then you guys are going to your normal to to to thirty Yup and then I have written down Sodano from two to three thirty. That's well yeah you gotta get Michael in there to get Michael over the phone and don't be afraid to have people do like one question. I give them occasion by the way let me just say this if you you are a listener to the show that we that is in the public. I like we know you you're on radio. You're on TV and you want to do this. Just tweet Bergman at Bergman Great. I think Jim Hill will do it. I think he do a question Yeah Yeah Hell would think Jim Hill would do a quick. He has to go ready to go first. Here's the very first I know what he always gets the call Jim after show I bet you he would do you think he has to go first. One hundred percent yeah yeah that is Jim. Hill says it's symbolic growl and Jim Hill. I think Beto would do one. Peter would do one up. I think it's good I think hard tongue would probably do one sure yeah we had ask around and get some some of our Palmer Friends L.. He'd do it for sure yeah finbar's Kimber Princeton the media all right so we'll have a media segment with different people from the media and they get to ask Fred Rogan. He's busy. He's busy yeah. He's having one on what he gets flexed.

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"What the question is today, where do you start? Yeah. Where where is start star, you start with that dominated Rams performance to you? Start with the digest taken three out of four in Saint Louis and and opening a Munster series tonight at Dodger Stadium, or do you start with the panic in the streets that is USC. I put it to you, Steve. Where do you wanna start. Everybody's married his no wrong answer. Everybody's waiting three these. Well, let me ask you this. Did you go the ram game? I of course. Okay. What did you realize me if I went to the ranch game, I've not missed a game yet. I don't know if that absolutely not where there yesterday. By the way, I just thought off the top of my head. Well, you didn't go to the last game last year? No, I was there. You went. Went away. Niner jive went and left at halftime. Oh, I think in the preseason games this year. Yeah, no, preseason game. All right. So here's the thing where you guys in the stadium aware or did you not maybe still don't now, do you know that Irizawa didn't cross midfield until the last play the game. I know they only had five. I dance k. think about that crazy cross midfield until eighth throw. I am telling you man. You don't want to put the car to head of the horse. But this team is the team to beat in the NFC if they stay healthy and they keep getting little injuries like now we lost a Tron there and Johnny Ecker. Apparently there's nothing he can't do. So he just filled, but they went for a lot of two point. Conversions, they don't. I don't think Hecker is ready to to regular basis, but he kicked a twenty five yard field goal. He does, but it's an extra point. But I, they went for three three times. I went for the point. I'm them. I go for it every time. I mean, they're, they're just give the ball to Todd Gurley and right now before gray want this on the record before it gets bet back up the line right now for next Sunday's chargers at Rams game, his Rams by six and a half, ten grand on the Rams at mythical money from men and gray hair. Ten grand on the Rams right now where I can still get six and a half, yes. If you wait, it's gonna go back up. You know what I say going on said eah, go. Chargers better. Pete, he'll always be the sandy ago chargers. Here's the thing that game could have been even worse brain and was why don't that was on your into the field, but Brandin cooks, y, wide open and Gough just didn't lob it if you had thrown it up in the air Chandler Jones knocked it down, but that would be touchdown that ended up being the series where Hecker kick the Phil. Yup. So would have been even worse, but they are scoring at will moving the ball will. The question is, are the Rams as good as they've looked in the last six quarters or the raiders and the cardinals that bad. I think the chargers are decent opponent or real opponent. Yeah, I think so. I think this is what you said. They could go to the Super Bowl to beginning of the year. I still don't think that's out of the question because look, how bad Denver is Denver had to squeak to guy by the raiders I, I mean, I think Denver's plan for a wildcard. I don't think I don't. This is the team in that division. All right. So I think right now, like I know this is over reaction Monday as they say on NFL live. Yep. But right now like gun to your head, pick the Super Bowl, it's chiefs ramps. Well, I mean, right after two weeks. Yeah. I mean, now the teams will be it'll be completely different week for Kim. They change. But right now don't they look like the two best teams? Yeah, I mean, and. And. Overby Elba. Okay. You jacks. I played you in fantasy football this week. Oh, God. All right. So here's the thing. I I have Patrick Mahomes and didn't play him and I might win anyway. So you're gonna win? No, no, you all Steve. Do not doubt the greatness of Brandon Marshall. He's the only guy left on either team and if he has a sixteen point night, you you punishment. Marshall, the only with with players left I'm dead. Yeah, but that's why this mythical money thing that we do is such a great exercise money will. It will make sure I never turned into a real gambler. I, for example, I bet a high. Oh, state on Saturday night. Yep, Greg, how much should I bet like five grand five k.. I had to give twelve and a half. Yep. They missed two extra points. At the end of the game, they took three knees inside the twenty and I lost forty two twenty eight. I lost by the much put on that five, but I got fifteen back betting on the chargers over the Bill. Okay, so let's let's since we're here. Let's review mythical money. Greg. Do you have. You and I are in the black and Greg is very in the that is true. So very very, here's the way I've got it. I had USC plus three and a half for five grand that is a loser will that we'll get to that. I had New England straight up versus Jacksonville, you at Jacksonville, I lost five grand on that. Correct. I'd Michigan state minus thirty five and a half that game much closer. I lost five grand on that. So you have fifteen k. down. Then I the colts plus five and a half for ten grand that saved that saved me. So I was only down five. That's a real gamblers do if they have like a bad weekend, they'll put it all on the Monday night game. Not to try and come back. I've got Ireland chargers minus. Seven and a half, seven and a half teen k. team to win are mad. I didn't big. Y'all had five k. for OSU minus twelve and a half, and that Tom less ten Jacksonville straight up so much. Teen. Right. Greg, you're up to one point one point. Six, five. You lost. Yeah. One of my at you are at one hundred forty. Nine thousand. I went much different. I am one in three. I'm coming and Greg. What are you at? Fifty k. all right. So we. A mythical hundred k. yes, so Mason's like fifty k. up. I'm pretty much even after I was fifty k. and Greg is sinking like a rock now what I would do if I were you, Greg, I'm going to bet tonight's game after going at forty. Nine k.. That you're when you see you're going to tonight's game. Do you mean the dodger game of the money? And I don't bet on the dodgers. I don't bet on my. Oh, you should. Dies, your bet on. I will not bet on my, hey, I want. I want to think first of all, I went to three different listener tale. It was so much fun, Ron Lopez, great guy. When I pull up, he's got this gigantic Worcester of me in a Rams football helmet, welcome Steve Mason. Wow. I just I just tweeted that out. Also. I went to a great one called world tour Rams, Chris, Avello, and Dan's we're in and then Safar. And I apologize for last names Raja. I was also at his party, but it was so much fun. Yeah, you do that every week. I'm gone to think about doing Friday night before. Oh, man, Friday night before the USC game. I thought I'd do some tailgates. Interesting. Let's finish up some thoughts on the ramps here, and then we'll get into USC because I know a lot of Trojan fans are like full fledged panic. Yeah. I still don't know what the weaknesses on the Rams. I don't know how another team is going to attack them. I'll tell you, I did I. So I did a little, you know, a little of what I do. Marcus Peters keep leaving. The secondary have allowed so far. Only seven catches by wide receivers and they're playing those most of the time isolated, right? Going one on one. You can take him out of the game to safeties have been good. Johnson's been surprisingly good. Yup. I'm the linebackers have been decent and the defensive line. The other team can't block and a bunch of Jared Goff through that one pick on fourth in whatever it was, but he was twenty four thirty to three hundred fifty four yards. Sixth career, three hundred yard passing game most ever by Rams player before his twenty fourth birthday. What's he was eleven of twelve on first down for almost two hundred yards. He looks really, really sharp. Brandin cooks is the wide receiver that Sean McVay must have been. Dreaming of that was the biggest single day for Brandin cooks in his career in again, cooks would had an easy touchdown had had Goth, lobbed it instead of thrown at Chandler, Joey, and we have breaking. News and this was the most predictable thing ever. Matter of fact, since you don't know it, you saw over the weekend that Josh Gordon got cut by. Did Jess worries going. I know I know patriots correct in Rappaport from the NFL network reporting close to a deal brainer, right? Yeah, it's going back to the Randy moss Chad Johnson. Now Garrett blinds have like an ex suspension in the future. No, he's playing. He already served as playing Clint as clean as he's playing clean. Literally playing. Right? I was very predictable. I said at this morning, as soon as I saw was actually Greg said it right away. Patriots, patriots. So and all right. So all around fantastic weekend for the Rams couldn't be more excited. I said at the beginning of the year, I'll say it again, thirteen win. I don't want to oversell it, but I think thirteen win Asli and totally possible. I predicted ten. Yup. I now think your right after watching them play two games. I think they can win thirteen game. They won eleven last year, and this team looks better than last year's team. Now they have a harder schedule this year better, but you didn't get the hard games at home and you know the came, I'm excited. No, it's I heard both charger fans are going to be at the Coliseum on Sunday, which is great the that'll they'll be adorable down there on the on the San Diego Chargers side. But the Thursday that follows is the Vikings game at the Coliseum. That is a great football game. Yeah. And remember last year that was the regular season game. Game? Yup. Where the Rams had had probably the most trouble it was tied or there was one touchdown game after three quarters, and the Rams went flat in the fourth Hooper Cup drop to pass. It would've put him. Yeah, so it'll be right down the middle of the field right at the end zone. So they get another crack at the Vikings who, frankly, should've lost yesterday cousins, threaded in needle to Adam the'll in on a play at the end of the game that shouldn't. I mean, the chances of this being. Plus one hundred clay Matthews penalty on roughing, the passer on the play with hair call. It's a real. You know what. According to the letter of the love. God, don't you enter the long letter. The law then change. You're not allowed to. You're not allowed to land with your body weight on the quarterback, and he technically did. Yeah, I don't. You have to call that every time if you're gonna ever call it? No, I feel this way that I felt about the tuck rule I mean by the letter of the law. Yeah, you can. Absolutely. Why would you what's giving you a speed in for going fifty? Six miles an hour. Why would you never? Why would you not follow the letter of the law? In other words, if other quarterbacks, if other defenders are dealing with exactly the same thing trying to not land on the quarterback, right? You're all ridiculous because the defender has no chance. There's nothing else that clay Matthews could've done, but land with his body weight on the quarterback. I don't know what us he practically late him down like an infant and lay and fell sort of a cross him. It was a, it was a rough call. It was a rough. Call. Not allowed cousins to thread that needle to the MO the tightest window of the day and find a way to get it into Adam feeling otherwise. It doesn't happen. Second. Most predictable thing today cites Jeff Gordon Brown's that just happened. You take you take that is. Segments, there's gotta be a kicker cut somewhere, right? Zane Gonzales. Brown kicker has been informed. They are releasing him after two misfield goals and missed extra points in the twenty one eight one that game it's Browns could be to in, oh, could be their old one. In one, they're still winless just say it on the air, Greg, Minnesota cut. John Carlson picked up Dan Bailey to jam Bailey and put it the life and make it, or you're gone. If you can do it, you can do it. I'm watching Rex Ryan do see Rex Ryan on get up today talking about kickers, like all they, they, they kick a little bit. Then they go into the locker room and watch soap operas. They have one job. It's to make those kicks. The spread just came down for USC Washington state. What do you think it is? I'll tell you next, right? I'll give you my guests next and we'll talk about the Trojans which is going to be the saddest most painful discussion of needs to be done there. People are people are outraged, they've had ING here. Barris disc fuss, ting, debacle disgusting. This forecasting, hey, you can't say Devon the radio, Paris, disc fuss, ting debacle tricky thing. It's a tricky thing. We'll get into the Trojans coming up next Mason in Ireland, ESPN LA better. Now Trojans don't. They know they're more breaking news. Yes, he'll is just being named the nationally. Tweet another home. He's hit a home run like every ten minutes Friday, homers in two games for us. We will get to the dodgers because they open. Our while it is the biggest series of the year. Let's face it. This is the biggest series of the air, the Rockies at Dodger Stadium. The dodgers are a half game out of the division lead. They're tied with the cardinals for the wild card right now we'll get to that. But first we've got to get to the Trojans all my Twitter's, like Rams one get to the get to the. I'm the same way. All right. So USC goes into Austin, and they jump ahead fourteen to three. Yep. And they look excellent. And then and this has been an issue and keep in mind as we discuss this subject that I am in may citing you are to Klay Hilton fan. I like him. I think he's a good coach and a good man and I, I've always supported him. I, I always point out that eleven and three last year eight and one in the Pac ten or Pac twelve first season. First full season ends with that great Rose Bowl, victory. His second full season ends in a pack twelve. Championship, but even Klay Hilton. Defenders like me have to admit that whatever they're doing half times not working there. Adjustments are not working and at one point Mace, I think they got outscored thirty four to nothing. No, they did. They gave up thirty four straight points after leading fourteen to three. I have been a first of all. Let me just say clay Helton is a really good man. Great guy really good guy, and then we'd like them and we if you listen to the show, we have defended him. But at some point, like Bill parcell says, you're, you are what your record says you are. And now this is in in his three straight years. He's had a, let's say, big national game, got blitz by Alabama. All right, got crushed by Ohio State, right. And now this Texas and you've got to be, you don't have to win all those games, but you gotta be competitive? Okay. I think first of all will set aside that they got screwed in the second quarter on the safety should have been great. You should have gotten the BAC even Joel Klatt who was doing the game, talked about it afterwards. Pereira's like what happened? They? They screwed that up, but USC is lost by double digits and back to back games for the first time since two thousand. Helton's Twenty-one wins. Overs I two seasons that is a USC record. And as you pointed out twenty seventeen Rose Bowl, twenty seventeen Pac twelve championship eleven and three last year eight and one in the Pac twelve. They are getting crushed, Marquis, games, crushed, and you can't do that at USC. You can do that in other schools. You can't do it at USC. That's when Pete Carroll made his money is in big national game. I remember thinking about you at the ram game yesterday up the last time I've ever heard a stat. The other team never got a cross. The fifty right was during peak carols run. When I was working for channel two, they sent me to Auburn for a season opener, right? And the year before Auburn had been undefeated and it was a big national game and it was a pick em game and USC. This was Matt liners first game as a starter right USC went down there, beat them twenty three to nothing and Auburn never got a cross. Midfield USC has to be competitive in. These national Marquis games and they haven't been. So my position on clay Helton is evolving. Trojans, top ten recruiting class after top ten recruiting class, ranked number four by twenty four, seven sports this year. You know the teams in front of them in terms of recruiting class in this last year. Number one, Alabama, number three, Georgia number four, high state. What's. They are one and ten in games were they are the underdogs. I can't give you some more numbers. These courtesy of one of our listeners get him Jim Bryant who listens to us all the time. Talk about clay defend clay. He says, since clay was made head coach, USC Trojans are eight and ten away from the Coliseum there too. In six in games, not started by Sam. Darnold Owen six against teams from the power, five conferences. Now that wouldn't include the Rose Bowl. So I think he's off on his staff, the robot Penn State, but you need to include those helping. In other words, the numbers we spin because we liked clay like the eleven three and the eight and one in the Pac twelve people can spend them right back on us and sooner or later his record will determine his seperation between us now. Yeah, the the me and you, yes, because you want you ready to move on, not ready to move on, but I don't think member. He started one in three before I don't saved it. Look. I don't think clay Helton is a locked to be the head coach of the Trojans next year. I agree with you, but I think that it would be Iranian to my neighbor who's a diehard fan cardinal Goldmember goes to every game him and his wife got every game right guy in those crush me. And he said, he's not. He's not ready to give up on clay, but something has to change. And here's the problem tee. Martin shouldn't be calling the plays anymore. No clay needs to either. Take that over or bring in a big name offense coordinator. And the problem with that is clay's an offense of coach. It would be like asking Sean McVay to bring in a play caller, you may not work. It may be square peg, round hole, Clancy pin grass in that defense is still pretty good. I mean, I know Texas. It seemed like the line kind of overwhelmed at the end. Texas was able to move the ball, but I thought that the play the change of the whole game was the black field. No question. I think that the blocked field goal with block field goal killed him. They make it. It's twenty three, seventeen and USC has momentum's. They're only down to one score game. Instead it goes the other way, and then it's thirty two, fourteen and techs, and you're on blow at one everything is and it's it's over on the what I hear from what I hear. John Baxter, the special teams coach is very highly regarded and a great guy, but you can't put that punter out there anymore. I mean, they've had two terrible and we try. Really hard around here and Mason. I've always had this stance not in. That's why we're not using this kid's name, not to criticize kids. I mean, these are kids going to school. They're getting an education, but if your job is the special teams coach, you can't have this John Baxter's job. Baxter's job is to make sure those punters ready. They used to of them to make sure that they defend kicks. I mean, I, I'm incredibly frustrated right now. You should see fans are. What I see is an Cedric ware said at active negative yards rushing for Cassandra Quere. He says, quote, I feel like we have to practice harder. You play the way you practice in for the last two weeks. I think we've practice lazy. We need some leaders on offense. There's been a lack of intensity. There's a lot of stuff we should be doing. I was on clay's conference call last night and again took the blame entirely on himself. This is all this is all me, but this is not the first time I've heard. The lazy practice story. People go to all the practices say there is no intensity of practice and Akademik, whereas right, you play the way you Practica guess at what the spread is Friday night at the Coliseum. Washington state coming in three and US's one into Washington state splayed nobody, but the Trojans have lost by two straight games for double digits. I'll say. Five and a half USC by three and a half. You get three just for being the home take. So this is a huge game for clay hill. Look, huge game and Friday must beat washing date and an absolute must. And so it's as close to being a must win game without being a must win game in something normally do. We're gonna let Trojan fans call the show. You know, normally, Greg, Steve are against phone calls, but this is a US. Your Twitter is probably the same as. Depot have had it with this particular Trojan team and the way they've looked after three games. So if you're USC fan, what's the solution? Eight. Seven, seven, seven, ten ESPN eight seven, seven, seven, ten, three, seven, seven, six and also make the point people are tweeting. Why are you defending Clinton? Pantograph they gave up thirty seven points. Think about this three punts that were twenty yards or less. They're playing on a short field all night. You keep giving the other team, the ball on the fifty yard line. Of course, they're going to score points. Yeah, the special teams were horrible. They were awful, and that's the first thing they gotta here's, here's we'll. We'll take some calls, but I can tell you right now. I am not going to blindly defend play Helton anymore. I'm not going to. I don't think you can't. That's just bad football. I've tried. And now even guys like me clay clay Hilton defenders, you have to look at the numbers, you I, I want Klay to succeed, and I think because I like him personally, but this is USC. Yeah, you can get. You can get away with the losing season at UCLA one literally one moving season. You wanna feel better if you're. You see some hot garbage, but you can't. You can't have five six, seven losses and be the head coach at USC doesn't work. All right. That's coming up for you. Yes, somebody just tweeted. How about the good old days of competition? Tuesday tomorrow was a good thing. Yeah, Mason Ireland ESPN LA SPN LA the USC Trojans blown out on the road in Austin, thirty seven fourteen. They jumped out to a fourteen three lead then gave up thirty four consecutive points. USC is lost by double digits. Now, in back to back games for the first time since two thousand, which I think is Pete Carroll's first year that was the six and six year, but but Claes too far down the road to have a six and six year, but can't you? You can. You can get away with that. If you're in your first year and you're building something, but you can't get away with it. Now. USC closed as the three and a half point underdog. The eleventh time the team has hasn't been favored in a game under clay. The record is one intent. They're not winning the big game. Game, and we're gonna let you guys sound off here at eight, seven, seven, seven, ten ESPN but couple more things dick for meal, though the old Super Bowl winning coach with the Rams and the eagles and. Used to say, you probably can't win a game with your special teams, but you can lose one. Oh yeah, I can make the argument Mace that they lost that game because a special teams, the block punt was absolutely critical. And the the Buckfield goal and the and the four bed punts just kill them. I would argue that they lost that game because they could not run the football and you're putting your. JT Daniels threw the ball forty eight times. Now you cannot go on the road in Austin, and what is everybody is described as a crazy environment and say to a true freshman, throw the ball forty eight times and win the game. They ran the ball for negative yards in that game. And there was no commitment to the run whatsoever. I have no idea what their offense of identity is, except let the poor freshman kid try to win it somehow. It's a bad game plan. It was a losing game plan, whether that's t Martin, whether that's clay Helton, whether that's the two of them together that was a democracy. So if you were clay Helton, what do you do now? I'll tell you one thing. I would practice hard academic wear called him out and said, lower practices have been really lazy. I've heard that from reporters out there at practice. How about go bust some heads? I guess you don't use that, especially more. It's okay. You go, you go go hard at practice because that if you practice well, your execution will improve in their executions offering. Here's Lewis in Valencia. Hey, Louis, you're on ESPN LA. Hi, how you doing. My points are simple. I mean, college football, see things win, football games, talent coaching with recruiting same pump, the talent, and I liked clay Hilton. I've met him. He's a great guy. He seems like he's an okay coach, but you don't have to be the best coach at USD. You can hire the best assistance other than McCullough that we have with running back. Undercounts is good. I liked Clancy, but the offensive line never gets any better. T Martin needs to go. I agree with you. I don't care if t Martin gets upset. Clay Helton has to take the reins back. He's gotta start calling calls because t- Martin cannot put a. Offense together. We have no identity. We have zero identity. I think so I'm in agreement there again. You know, they ran the ball sixteen times only sixteen times in that game for minus five yards. Now you would think throwing the ball forty eight times that might open up the run at some point, but apparently that never happened or they never took advantage of. They can't run to the ball. They can't run the ball and back to that guy's point. Part of the reason is the offense of line is in great, offensive line is veteran offensive line, very overrated. They all return from last year. They weren't good last year. They're not playing well, this year, the run blocking is an absolute mess. Rick and Long Beach, Rick. You're on ESPN LA. Hi. Hey, guys, I was at that game and winning embarrassment. You went to us. What's that? You went to Austin? Yes, I was there. Okay. Scribe what it was like inside the stadium. Well, let me tell you it was phenomenal. The fans are great to blue book programs going at it, and we were up fourteen to three. I was telling my friends, we'd better run the ball because we've got to put our foot on their throat and knock him out. But I'll tell you what the biggest thing is, Tom, Herman outcoached Klay Hilton by Tom urban. They won the acquaintanceship and Herman deferred because he knew he saw on film, hell bad offense line was and on four. In third and goal. We had a penalty which moves back to the six term said, no, I'm not gonna give you two shots. Fourth and one man on man. Let's go. If you remember that play Steven, Carr, ranch outside. There was four guys unblocked facing him down and no effort to yards because there's no offensive push the offensive line coach has to go. The strength conditioning coach has to go because Steve, you know this, these are highly recruited guys. Yup. And there's no excuse and there. The reason why we didn't run the ball because we couldn't run the ball deep it. That's why the defense was in trouble. And I made the comment when you know there's some bad calls went on, but you're also missing on special teams to the roughing. The kicker in the end zone. That that just crushed him to that would have been a chance to flip the field. You had them at the one yet and putting deep out of the end zone. And that was the time delay back and set up a return. It was not a time to go for the block, here's Ryan in Long Beach. Right. And you're on ESPN LA high? Yeah, I would fear in this this year because I think Sam darnold covered up a lot of the war with his coaching staff. And I personally like clay. I just think that they had football coach at USC deserves a big name, you know, see over program like like shave, like Kirby smart, like Lincoln Riley, you know at, oh, those less names, you made those last two names. You mentioned Ryan were exactly what clay was. They were offense of coordinators that got promoted, you know, I think curvy measurement of defensive guy. They were coordinators that Lincoln Riley was the offensive coordinator for Bob hoops and they promoted. Maybe you can order that Claes not on the level, but some of these other offense of coordinators, he. Does that his staff with his friends, you know the, these are all his buddies. So let me just let me just break this to you. That's the way a lot of these coaching staffs get filled. A lot of them are everybody's bringing in their buddies, everybody's. That's the clay that that's the case with with clan hinder graph. But thanks for that. Clinton was gone for year, went to the forty Niners then came back under Klay yet the the issue I talked to friend of mine on Sunday who works over at USC and they say the issue t Martin is he is a fantastic recruiter, like the best one in the staff over the top great at recruiting. And so they couldn't just leave him as a position coach that order bad brought that up with keeshonden keeshond said, you know, that's really overrated because USC does recruit itself. We'll key would. No. Yeah. I mean, that's that's keeshond Johnson. The here's drew downtown, hey, drew you're on ESPN. Hi, what's going on, you know, as a to student to just disgusting. What I see clay Helton doesn't have that that Maxie that possess at the USC coaching staff needs, they're not developing the talent, the talent gray, just like Alabama. Just like OSU. Every year in a row is nice. Three years. We've come outside the first three games. We got smoked against Alabama. We got got scared against western Michigan, and then we got so got smoked by Stanford. And now by Texas, US's coach has to have that possess. That's that swaggered look at. McVay over here on the Rams look at Luke them young. They're ready to go. There. Hungry clay clay denies guy, but he's he's not cut out to. Here's what I like about you. You're a USC student and you use the word both possess and moxie that get. That's exactly what you get for that seventy thousand dollars a year education citing. Thank you for calling man. Thank you. Yeah, it is. It's bad. I'm we. We both have been Klay defenders, but I think after that game still defending, I'd like to because I like them, but I think you are what your record says you are. If they dropped to one in three, I think the wolves will be out. The wolves will see this morning. I listen to Sean this warning for few segments and he's not ready to. He thinks that the frisky shown us was Klay needs to threaten the staff. He needs to threaten all of them with their jobs and see if it makes a difference. And if it doesn't, then you have to blow up. And then if that doesn't, which would be hard for him because like you said, they're all his guys. You know, it's weird. I looked up clay has got a contract through that Lynch. One gave him through twenty twenty three at three point, eight million a year. So I don't know what is by out is twenty three million gem USC makes that in a week, I'm just saying that this is. Lynn Swann's. Extension wins once said, all right, after the eleven and three and the the Pac twelve title and all that there is a name being floated around out there that I, I, I have no idea how you're going to react to it. Because on one hand, I think he would love it. And on the other hand, it's against something you talk about all the time. I'll tell you it is next Mason, Ireland. So what bums me out is that I know for a fact. That the three candidates that. Interviewed for the USC job this not this time, but the time before the Sark year? Yep. We're Sark Chris Peterson and Ed or drawn now Peterson. Really good, right at org drawn. Breed ain't good one at Auburn over the weekend, but the name I wanna throw at you is one I keep getting. I'm sure you're getting it to your your thing. When we talk about hiring coaches is what's new, what's what's new? What's next. You have to accept the premise here in order for this to work. So let's say season ends and Pete Carroll is willing to come back and coach the Trojans next year. Do you want him. Well, sequels never is good as the original, but he is Pete Carroll. Peter was willing to come back and bring his magic bag of tricks. He's I think he's sixty four. I would snow. He's older. He's. He's. Okay. So that is definitely not what's new. But do you know anybody who has more youthful enthusiasm than no, no, Pete Carroll is going on thirty. The youngest sixty eight. You're ever going to see. I would. I would say of course I don't think there's. Is there any indication he would leave Seattle? Well, they played tonight Seattle place Tang Chicago. He's a rebuild John. He's in the last year of his deal. There are there's a lot of talk up there that they are. You know, look at the people that left. Richard Sherman laughed, Michael Bennett left. You know, they basically have blown up the legion of boom. If you could get Pete Carroll. Yeah, at sixty eight. Wearing it on really. So you're going insurance rule going against my own rule because I love Pete p. those the golden time for USC football had so much fun. Yeah, their name that Arabic people are saying this weekend. I can't believe you're sending it is is no, they're not. I don't care that he went to USC and coached in the NFL. They are not hiring Jeff Fisher. It is said that I've gotten it three times. I keep getting Jack del Rio. Well, he's another US I don't. I don't consider that to be important that you went to USC. I could give a damn. I proved that Pete prove that I am not if it's not going to be somebody like Pete Carroll, and by the way we've apparently already fired clay Helton because we're talking about his placement. No, I mean, I think that's what you do in sports radio. I don't think clay is going to be fired midseason. I really don't. I don't think there's any chance if he loses the Washington state game on Friday. No, and he could Washington state's three? No, they haven't played anybody, but they're three now, but if they lose Washington state and at AirAsia. So they they want one in four? Yeah, that's lane kiffin memorial firing rooms. But then who do you make the head coach Clancy for the time being sees lost four. I think there's no question that USC that that Klay needs Klay Saturday one and three before and survived it. Yeah, but he had Sam darnold. Yeah, the, I think they've got to be four into when they go into Utah in until loss over the weekend. Yeah. Gotta be four and two. Going to Utah. Really tough place to play this week is I? I mean, you absolutely must. Absolutely. Without question beat Washington state, you know one one little nugget here, you know, clay has never lost a game at the Coliseum. Undefeated never lost a game at home. Really? Yeah. Undefeated Coliseum. Wow. So that bodes well for Friday night. I'm not a big fan of those Friday night games, but. I'm sitting running through my head. So like the long hail Mary that Jalen strong caught from Arizona state that way. Andrew luck was obviously pre clay UCLA is been down last few years. Wow. Notre Dame hasn't eaten them there. That's interesting. Yeah. So that bodes well, then they go to Zona. Arizona does not look good, then Colorado at home, Colorado's pretty good. I saw beat Nebraska. So Colorado is solid, but again at the Coliseum and then at Utah is a place where actually Sam darnold lost his first start at Utah. So in a very close gets tough place to play, and it's a huge battle. Look, here's the crazy thing about it is everything is still on the table for clay except for clay for the Trojans, except for the national championship. You can still win the Pac, twelve your own one. You can go to the pet. You went on. The Plath can win the south. Could win the Pac twelve championship game. Okay. Here's think about this. If USC doesn't win the south, who does probably Utah or Arizona state Sears state loss over the weekend, you gotta start looking Colorado, I mean, but it it's weird UCLA's out of it. Airs Ona's out of it. But we're those conference games. No. So just saying that that the south is really down this year, Washington Stanford or both in the north, the north is brutal, so you're right, and they do a kiss in the schedule because they don't get Washington the regular season and they don't get Oregon in the regular season. So they they got lucky in the scheduling department, but this this Friday night, I'm not sure what would happen if they lost. Are you going? Absolutely weekend's, busy. I got USC on Friday night. Then we're taking in our. I l. AFC game on Saturday. And then the Rams at home on Sunday. Yes. So you've got a, you've got a full nines out full. Plate. If if the game gets boring, the Santa music sing along at the Hollywood. Sorry is Saturday night. And fortunately, I will look your thinking you there. It's a single own knowing him not who knew, no, I will be there without seeing loan, but that ramp charger game on Sunday. All right. So how do you feel about this series starting tonight at Dodger Stadium, kind of a big deal to quote Ron burgundy. I'm kind of a big deal. Say this is if either team sweeps, the other one, that's probably what's your panic level you're game out of. I I have. I'm back to a five hundred for the wild card. You're even afford. Oh, yeah, I'm feeling good now. The only reason I'm a five is because they fell out of first place is night if they if they were back in first place, I'd make it a four. I was at a one point eight. I'm revising out to a one in the playoffs. Greg. What do you think the three of staying at three always going to be okay. So why will you can't hallways be three until they're out until they got to be do say if they are out of it, then I'll panic meter will go up. Oh, okay. So when they're eliminated the panic needle little little worry. But for the most part of not I'm I'm someone other than review is pitching. Tonight's. A lot of a lot of problems of in all dick, how good, how good was Walker bueller and say, oh man, that kid there's your number one star. No, no, no, no, no. See if they get into the playoffs now I think they can get their rotation square for shop. No other way around. But the Kershaw game one game two, I think they can beat anybody. I do. They gotta get in Rockies by the way of not faced review this year, but lifetime against you. This is a little scary Nolan or not always ten for sixteen with three homers and seven RBI's offer you char- offering Charlie Blackmon seven of twenty one with a Homer. Cargo five of thirteen with a home or Trevor story, two of seven with a horror that is not. Are you really well? This is not our best idea to start real. Let's do it. Let's do it. All right. We'll talk more about the dodgers coming up.

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