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Between the Scenes - Scarlett Johansson and the Debate Over Representation in Film

The Daily Show with Trevor Noah: Ears Edition

05:22 min | 1 year ago

Between the Scenes - Scarlett Johansson and the Debate Over Representation in Film

"You're listening to comedy central on if you saw the story with Scarlett Johansson as you know has a record of coming under fire for playing roles that people have said could go to other minority groups you know so for instance. She played what was considered a Japanese character in the movie like an action movie. I forget the name of the movie was ghost in the shell it was on the show yeah and then and then you know she wanted to play a trans character. Another movie and and people were like hey come on. What about transact? Can they get shots at this and she she had a statement of the time which wasn't great she was like Oh. Why don't you go talk to other people's agents who've done it before me it was like a very dismissive thing and she apologized after that and now she came back for another statement where she said something along? The lines of as an actress should be allowed to play whatever role I want a tree and animal whatever like people shouldn't be restricting me and Blah Blah Blah. It's so interesting. I understand why you you may WANNA get defensive as a person I can even understand why some white people may feel like they're under attack in and around these conversations but I think what's often lost. is you see when Scarlett goes. I should be allowed to play an animal or a tree or anything like yes but that's that's exactly where where people sort of saying as they sang for so long Hollywood and the people who have defined storytelling in America have defined it as stories to be told four and by white people right and so the roles that have been generally reserved. Reserved for black people have been the stereotypes of criminal made slave. That's pretty much. It's you know and all people are saying is if all these opportunities where it's like a Japanese character pops up you saw like how how many people loved crazy rich Asians because they like to see myself on screen not in just a stereotypical fashion but to see myself as a human being gives me like we take for granted how much representation means to human beings and I think in two ways one on an inspirational inspirational front but to just how shape society you know I don't take for granted how the idea of terrorists and Muslims was propagated by Hollywood more so than many other mediums where every time you watch TV if someone was on T._v.. That little then you all aw shit it was never like a cool thing. Do you know what I mean that injuries powerful because a lot of the people who watch those movies don't even come into contact with diverse people so the image of these people is defined by Hollywood and you would think that place that considers itself. So liberal would try to find a way to represent people. I'm not saying there are no Middle Eastern terrorists but I'm saying they're they're Middle Eastern stories that that run the gamut. There's a there's a there's a spectrum like great shows like there's a show on who called rummy. One of my favorite shows I've ever watched it just shows you what is like to be a Muslim family living in America and it's like all the range of Muslim super religious all the way through three add drink and ate pork and I say I'm listening but but it's it's authentic you know and those stories I think are important not in like a charity way but like just in a great tv great stories great like like inclusivity just like yeah. Let's tell some original stories and so someone like scholar transcend. Sometimes I think doesn't understand you know like when you read a quote like that you know people aren't. Attacking you for this. They're just saying you have the luxury of all of these roles and the roles that these other people will never be considerable. You can play a Japanese robot if you want to and you can play a white woman in avengers a white woman in the romantic comedy a white woman in action and white woman in a drama you can play all of them but the Japanese woman who's acting. She most probably can only play the Japanese robots. You know what I mean. That's that's that's what that's what people are trying to say at the same time however I think we should be careful and honest with each other and go. We want to be in a place where we say. We want opportunities for everybody but we shouldn't be so extreme. Him that we define a thing as as like people are like only trans people should play transpeople on screen and I go. I think that's dangerous for a few reasons one. Not Everybody's ready to come out as trans so by saying only transpeople can play transpeople what you're now inadvertently saying is everybody who is Trans must come out as trans at your time so that they can get the role would in fact we don't know at what point person is transitioning. It's the same as being gay if you only gay people can play gay people on screen what you're saying only out gay people can unplayed gay people on screen. We don't know who's Gay. We know how many people struggle with coming out as gay so you can't make that definition you've got to be careful about how you say those things you know and I also think at the end of the day you are acting because there's a story and it's being told by an actor you get what I'm saying thinks about inclusion whilst at the same time stifling creativity and the arts but you can't have these conversations honestly when people are just trying to fight each other for re tweets the daily show but Kurbanov Watch the daily.

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Spoiler Specials: Marriage Story

Slate's Culture Gabfest

56:51 min | 1 year ago

Spoiler Specials: Marriage Story

"Electric cars may seem a little different but new technology always seems weird at first. PODCAST must've seemed weird when they first came out in the early two thousands and here you are listening to one right now will. Electric Electric cars are becoming normal to they now have longer ranges meaning. They're not just for work commutes. They have faster recharging times. You don't have to wait around all day to charge your car and and with more affordable models and less routine maintenance. They may actually help you save money electric cars. They're normal now. Learn more at normal now dot com title secret now Charlotte mm-hmm What's hello and welcome to the sleet late spoiler special podcast today. We're talking about Noah Baumbach marriage story which opened a couple of months ago in theaters and is just about to drop on Netflix. This week and joining me in slates Brooklyn Office to talk about marriage. Story is Samuel Adams senior editor at slate and culture writer film critic extraordinary him. Hello so I'm feeling both very buzzed to talk about this movie and also a little bit panicked because we both saw it quite a while ago. I have very strong feelings and things to say about this movie but I may be wondering through the thicket as far as the plot. Yeah I'm a bit of a plot sieve which makes it makes me an odd person for these spoiler specials but I I enjoy them and you'll see him to listen so thanks. I mean this is not a movie. That's really about plot anyway so it is a movie. That's all about current feeling about character really about two extraordinary performances. I would say which we'll get to So maybe we will approach it more in terms of themes and characters. There's then going through the story bit by bit since we all know from essentially the trailer which would just to hear a bit of that. This is a story about a couple in the midst of a messy divorce. What I love about Nicole? She use a mother who plays really place. What I love about Charlie? He loves being a DAD. He loves all the things. We're supposed to hate like waking up. She knows when push me he never lets other people keep him from wanting to start easy for includes a cab. He's incredibly need. She's breeze. BURLINGTON is very competitive. All tell tally all the what's happening. And then I just get nervous. Can you unserved. We rely take it back the divorce with him anymore. What most people in my business transactions I like to think of it was people all good remind me of myself scalpels? My second marriage set me straight. They don't actually use Paul McCartney's maybe I'm amazed anywhere wearing this movie. Do they know no. That's UPTEMPO trailer music. Not Sort of like depressive pensive music. Which is what you actually here in this movie? You've got like Randy Newman score. And you got a couple of songs from Stephen Sondheim's company which I'm sure we'll talk about But no like big swing for the fences like you know Anthony Rock love songs you put. Maybe I'm amazed in a trailer for a movie about people falling out of love. I think it's just kind of maybe fool people into thinking a little less sad the national and yet they must have paid a lot for those rights. But what are you GonNa do it's net flicks So I actually want to talk later about the fact. This is a Netflix released. But first let's just set up a little. What the story is so the marriage that we find in disillusion as the movie begins between Charlie and Nicole played by Adam driver and Scarlett Johansson and Maybe we should just take the way we first meet them. which is really the first thing you here in the trailer and the happiest most romantic part of the movie? In other words you start high and immediately begin the downhill. Slide with them right. I mean the way the movie starts. Is You know really set up. which is you here? You know the very lovely Kind of monologues. By aggravates character Charlie scarlet. Your Hanson's character Nicole. Charlie Resistant Laissez called like what I love about. Nicole Nicole reach this little essay called about Charlie And it's so great and this is all kind of appreciating the wonderful things things that they feel about each other and even if you know this is a movie about divorce you think well you know yet. But they're still very much in touch with love. And then you also see. We should say at the same time really the only flashbacks you get in the movie of marriage during those opening monologue and then it cuts to the two of them. Sitting in a couples counselor's office. It becomes clear that they've already decided to divorce. They're just trying to work their way through amicably. I'm and it turns out that hearing them read. These things aloud was basically kind of the only departure from reality in the movie as well. The first thing we see in this is a Nicole scarlet. Johnson's character refusing to read her essay out loud as the counselors urging there too. Because she doesn't like what she wrote. Charlie Charlie says well you know I like what I wrote i WanNa read it. Then the council says well No. It doesn't work unless you both do it. So then they both decide to not do it. And Nicole gets mad and storms out so I never thought of that. So what you're really. Hearing is the composition process in their head of writing the note or something like that not a real moment when they actually ever read it right. I mean it seems to be a very sort of like straightforward presentation movie and a lot of ways and if you watch it I've seen it twice and I've been talking to people about it for a couple months now since I first saw to Toronto in September. It's very subtly layered in ways that you don't even necessarily notice the first or maybe even the second time through. I realized that I didn't do my usual. Go round sounds is. There's only two of us. We can't quite go around but but I just wanted to gather the facts. I you loved this movie. Yeah I really do movie a lot. The first time I saw it it really it does kind of sneak up on you soak into you in ways and I found. I'm probably talk about this too. But it's something that kind of changes for me the second time you see it as well as certainly as far as my sympathies feelings about kind of who side you know the movie is on. I had some reservations the first time and then the second time kind of flip those around. Oh I want to hear about how that shifted. I still only seen at one time but it is really stuck with me. I'm not sure it's going to be on my top ten list. It's something I'm actually struggling with right now because there's so many other great movies and the strengths of this movie. Although there are very strong are conventional strengths. I would say I mean it's not reinventing the form of cinema in any way you know. It's a straightforward sort of comedy. The tragedy love story is beautifully acted. You know it proceeds kind of chronological order through. Psychologically realistic universities are not bad things. Mind you but I'm just not quite sure that I'm I'm willing to put it up on the level of some of the real achievements in cinema. That have happened. It's harder movie to get excited about things like you see something like parasite or poor the lady on fire and you just go on a god cinema and this doesn't give you that same kind of electric feeling it just it just gets into your bones and makes you sad and and thoughtful and maybe offensive sometimes. But they're going to work on to you over over time. I may not even make this. This is the kind of thing I would have trouble putting on a list for just for that reason but at the same time like I. There's very little I can reproach about it. Yeah I will say I think. It's my favorite Noah Baumbach film. But I've never been a huge huge Noah Baumbach Fan. I wonder if you could briefly resume. What what your your feeling about him as a director has been like I would say that this squid and the whale which are is to most autobiographical films probably are my two favorites? And when he's in the mode owed sort of mild social satire and family dysfunction that he's in and a lot of his other movies Margot at the wedding Meyrowitz stories that I admire those movies without really loving them or remembering remembering them right. I mean I think I'm in the same place you I like the ones that are kind of basically autobiographical or semi autobiographical movies about divorce. The ones to me me that basically feel like New York or short stories I am not so fond of yeah I mean swells very directly about his parents divorced almost just a slightly fictionalized autobiography the and with marriage story. I mean we'll never know right. I mean his marriage to Jennifer. Jason Leigh which fell apart about five years ago or so was kept very private but there are a lot of things that it has in common comment with this story. They've split when they had a child much smaller child than the boy in this movie. Who is supposed to be eight seven or eight? I think there was just a baby. And Jennifer Jason Leigh Scarlett Johansson's character is a child of Hollywood also an actress who becomes famous for like doing a topless scene sort of teenage sex comedy. When she's a young actress actress fast times connection? Exactly Adam drivers character is like an experimental theater director in this. It's not a sort of strict transliteration. But you can certainly draw a lot of lines winston. What little we know Noah Baumbach actual live right from this and I think maybe account for what I feel like is greater emotional authenticity than some of his films? I mean there's a lot out of social satire here but it tends to be around the divorce proceedings themselves. The two main characters are not really I would say objects of satire. The movie loves them and loves them. Both in wants us to to give both of their sides hearing no and a lot of what it becomes about these two people who think we eventually decide like are not meant meant to be together at this point but did love each other. Do you love each other. Still in some ways being kind of fed into this kind of like divorce industrial L. A. Complex Both the lawyers and the and the judicial system and surfacing all these kinds of emotions that they kept buried during their marriage which is why it fell apart part but at the same time really being put it off with each other in ways. That don't seem necessarily Like necessary or helpful. Yeah they're both performers but it's like they're being cast in a in a play or a movie that they they don't WanNa be in right there being turned into each other's antagonists when they start the beginning swearing that they're gonNA have this amicable split. So the way there's get so so unimaginable so quickly is in part because Nicole moves to Los Angeles and she does that because she gets a part in a TV show. So there's also this conflict between the two of them which I think is really nicely subtly. It's not underscore it in the movie between the Higher Brow. Art that he's creating a New York and that they created together during the years of their marriage and whatever it is the show that she's going to do which we never learn. I don't think the title of or much about what it's about five fantasy right. Yeah it just reminds me a little bit of the Like the sci-fi if I move that like Marissa's shooting in clouds of Sills Maria it's sort of like a parody of like dumb Hollywood stuff from a director who's never done Hollywood stuff and doesn't seem like very familiar with it which very kind of like denatured and abstract but something about her like kind of being like a mother to an alien baby a year like something like that. Yeah Yeah I mean. The view of Hollywood is a little bit jaundice but also is just so glancing. The movie is really not that interested in the process of being a Hollywood star or having Bene- Hollywood star or that much about her career. And it's something that I might fault this movie with if I thought it through more. It didn't really bother me at the time but I feel like the movie understands hands and cares more about his career than about her as it may care about them both equally as people ernest partners in this dissolving partnership. But we understand more about Charlie's Charlie's art why he wants to stay in New York and make it what the company is like and what his relationships with people in the company including a very charming Wallace Shawn one of his his You know s studio of actors what that's like and we don't really know anything about why she wants to move to La except that her family's they're right right from the beginning get these dueling monologues. It was a movie kind of about an embedded with points of view. It's written and directed by a man. It certainly felt to me like my one complaint. That the first time I felt like it was really kind of slanted in favor of Charlie who has all these various sort of relatable like understandable desires like the New York he wants to stay in Newark. Their kid has been raised in York. Wants to keep their kid in New York and all of a sudden. Here's Nicole saying I'm going to move to L. A.. I'm GonNa take our kids. La I'M GONNA put our kid in school in l. a. and then like just kind kind of steal him away and like making move there too and it isn't really until the end of the movie that starts to get more into the idea that There had always been this sort of understanding between them or discussions between them about well. Maybe we'll try living in L. A.. Because Nicole Scarlett Johansson character is like from there originally. She has family there. She kind of gave up this movie career to go and work with Charlie's Theater Company in New York and it's only kind of having gotten to that point in the movie and then gone back and watched it again then the second I was like oh no actually like Nicole was right like the whole time and I talked to a number of other people like check this in a lot of other people that I've talked to had had the same experience so I don't know if I could say that it's sort of deliberately designed to go one way the first time in another way the second time but I think that that is kind of an available reading of it and speaks to some of that complexity that I was talking about that it turns out to be kind of richer than it seems at first right. I mean you don't really get even a sense of who ended the marriage rights. We don't get a scene of them saying let's break up now. We've I meet them when that's already been said and they've made an appointment with a mediator so it's gotten that far the you imagine that it was her that said let's break right. I mean you do find out that he cheated on her with. I think like the stage manager from there like theater companies. Some sort of the crew person really find out about that after it's over and they're already a part we certainly don't see like the moment that she finds out it doesn't really underline the fact fact that this is all these wonderful scenes of. Oh I love Charley and I love his theatre company. 'cause it's like a family role included and then doesn't really get to the part where it's like. Oh you cheated don me with like a member of our family. WHATEV- deeper betrayal? That would be so a kind of gloss over that a little bit already. Passed the rupture when the movie starts. You know lot of stuff that we kind of have to piece together or figure out through the process as we're kind of moving through. I guess the police over about a year. Or something like that. Because we have to Halloween's within the movie right the horrible Halloween and then the the not so bad halloween. Since you're saying is all a movie about point of view and shifting getting points of view. I'm curious what you make of the long seen that Scarlett Johansson has with Laura Dern who becomes her lawyer in La her divorce lawyer There's this long moment it's I think. Give it as one take at the very least it's a few long connected takes of Scarlett Johansson just telling her story how they broke up what the narrative his the raw narrative that This lawyer Laura dern is going to shape into something that can be argued in court room to try to get custody of Henry their son and I was somewhat unclear throughout that scene on the balance between social satire and insincere drama right. I mean certainly. We're supposed to believe Scarlett Johansson character. She's not misrepresenting or fronting in any way. But there's also uh-huh sort of a satire of this touchy feely talk that the Laura dern character is using to draw the story out and to get more details that she will eventually as we'll see weaponize courtroom against Charlie and I just wondered what you thought that seems balance of you know sort of wanting you to love and care for Scarlett Johansson and care about hearing her truth but also be aware of the manipulation. That's that's turning that truth into something else. Even she tells it right. I mean Laura. Laura dern is playing could've high-powered very slick personable bowl. Hollywood divorce attorney who is apparently based on a real divorce attorney who I think represented Jennifer Jason Leigh in divorce from Noah Baumbach and so she's a bit bit of a shark but she also does this thing where she just takes Nicole into office has sit down and tell me about this and there. Is this big long take. Where are you know Scarlett? Johansson is kind of moving around the office which I think she gets like. T pointed also delivering this monologue. And that's part of the satires that she presents her with this very elaborate set. Ed Pastries look like something that you'd be served in kind of like an English tea room or something right. I mean it's a place it's it's it's a place with all the trials but at that way. Yes but this very kind of meaningful meaningful stuff comes out where she says you know. We always talked about moving to La and we kind of never we never sort of set a date you know but it was just something we always talked about but never did and and that you get a real sense of that has kind of became her position in the marriage that she was the one who had these desires that were discussed and acknowledged but never are acted upon. And Charlie just win those battles through inertia. He wouldn't say no he would just say yes. I think she says I just felt like getting smaller in marriage. And you and you realize rather than the therapist the male therapist at the beginning of the movie just being like. Tell me what you love about your husband for Laura Dern to Kinda give her. This more open ended prompt spills for this whole thing. And you start to really see a that. They're not getting back together for sure and be that this is someone who has really a kind of starved off part of herself when this marriage and is really only just now reconnecting with it and the way Johansen accident. That scene which is really admirable double is that it's almost like she's discovering the truth herself as she tells it right that some of those things she's never really maybe admitted even to herself how powerless passive. She felt in their relationship. But I mean they're I think there hopefully not too many left but I mean there are still people who kind of underestimate Scarlett Johansson as an actress and I think this is a really good movie too and that's a great scene in particular to turn them around but one thing. I thought in that scene in many scenes in this movie is that she doesn't get that many roles where she gets to play a normal vulnerable human mortal. You know I mean she used to but now she's well I mean she is incredible in her for example but but there she's not a human mortal. She's this kind of other worldly machine voice that's kind of striving to become human Obviously in the avengers universes. She's doesn't have superpowers. She's like an alien and under the skin. She's like the superhuman and Lucy kind of cyborg. Whatever in Ghost in the show yes? She's played a lot of kind of superhuman or yeah and so one thing. I realized a lot in this movie. Especially when she's walking around with Adam driver and Laura dern who are both very tall is that she's tiny right. I mean she's very small person and because she always plays someone with so much power or somebody from alien dimension or whatever you kind of think of Scarlett Johansson Hinson. Is this FEM BOT or something like that and it was. It was really great to see her playing normal human mortal extremely well. She's got short shaggy the hair and this the very first thing we see in the movie and I sort of forgot this but is this almost sort of silent film like iris out on her face in what we will see quite a bit later as this theater production of. I think it's Electra. which is the last thing that she in? Charlie you're going to end up doing off Broadway and that it it entrance I to Broadway. But she doesn't go with it because she goes to Elliott or shooter pilot. Yeah but we see her in this sort of classic like black mock Turtleneck and short haired. She just seems very fragile in an expository that she is often not in Manatt called upon to be in movies. Saying I'm going to break into our conversation. For just a moment. For a word from our sponsor this week electrify electrify America. Electric cars may seem a little different but new technology always seems weird at first even podcasting weird when they first came out in the early two thousands they were called audio blogs. 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All right back to the show all right. Since we've covered Laura dern and Scarlett Johansson's relationship as lawyer Royer and client What about Charlie and his two lawyers you WANNA take us through his journey through a divorce law I charlie? He's going to do without a lawyer because they're just friends and they're going to do this equally and then he finds out that Nicole has up up in this lawyer and so he needs to right away. Laura dern calls and says we'll hey remember that complaint that we sent you that you kind of ignored in order because again this is like what he does thirty days to respond to it and it's been like twenty seven or something and if you don't we're just GonNa take everything that we asked for in that need to come to La and get a lawyer like yesterday. So he goes to la sort of frantically running around the first person he stops to see Israel Iota. Is this very aggressive kind of Sharkey doggy. Dogg doc divorce lawyer kind of the Alpha male equivalent of Laura dern character and he basically says look we're just GonNa just GonNa come back at them as hard as they came at us. You're not GonNa like me. He when this is all over. But we're going to win. Adam driver says like like I don't WanNa do that. So then he goes and after used to go all over town to find a lawyer because it turns out I guess this might be a specific. La California thing but Nicole is going around consulted with like a dozen lawyers around around town which then poisons the well. He can't use them because she's already discussed that part of divorce law either and it seems like there must be some real chicanery going on in not department. I also wonder if there's some sort of sub tweet of JJ L. There Jennifer. Jason Leigh. I can't help it. I know that I should be above. Bringing his own story into this. But that thing of spoiling the field divorce lawyers is really cold. No Noah Baumbach. I mean you've been through it and you probably also know quite a lot of of well-heeled you you know people with a lot of resources who've been through their own sort of high-powered divorces and have you know the money in the time to spend a week going around visiting divorce lawyers that their spouse can't get to them The people who were kind of put off by Noah Baumbach movies just being about like privileged white people. This is not a movie for you. I don't think I mean absolutely with these people aren't the characters are not as successful as is no bombardier and Jennifer. Jason Leigh in their Experimental Theater Director and famous mostly theater actors at this point. I mean they're not you and I the circumstances are somewhat. What is the kind of emotional? Beats what they're going through. Think it'll be very either familiar from experience or kind of from an intrusive thoughts about what might happen if your marriage winter shit. Oh Man Yeah. It's Buji movie. There's no way around it but I will say that. The privileged gets checked in small ways by that social social satire was talking about. It happens a little bit more in relation to the law scenes than just in the depiction of their private lives for example that moment when they're having I think it's their first court hearing thing and the judge tries to hurry them along saying there's some people with fewer resources who are waiting to be heard behind you and you see this Bank of people who are clearly not you know Professional will TV stars and theater directors who are just regular people waiting to hear their divorce court right absolutely and Charlie ends up with Beato a somewhat cheaper if not not exactly bargain-basement but he ends up with this kind of you know. Shuffling Nice Guy of a recently converted to divorce lawyer played by Alan alda who's immensely slee lovable in this role but you also have the senses that he charlie. She's GonNa get screwed as long as he relies on him so he tries to play nice and that does not work workout to his advantage. So to standpoint this movie you know it's it's I think. Two hours and fifteen minutes long like there's a lot packed into but it also leaves a lot out and one of the things that it does is for example Apple. There's there's clearly moment when Charlie goes with Alan alda and the dumps it goes back to Ray Liotta and you don't see that it's just the next shows up in court when the lawyer there's really. I wonder if that was the scene that it was written in the nut. Put in or films and then cut because it does seem odd that you don't see. Eleanor pretty major character. While he's in the movie right and and then he disappears very quickly. Maybe he just couldn't stand to film The heartbreak of someone rejecting Alan Alda but sure enough. The next time you see him he has pitted His his sharp lawyer against her shark. Lawyer yes and that's when you really get a sense of kind of the ugliness involved because there's a moment when Charlie's coming out to visit Nicole. They're putting their together. Gather sort of having a nice moment of sharing bedtime. And she's saying Oh. I think I had a glass of wine too much. Maybe you should do bedtime or whatever. I feel a little lightheaded or something. And then the next time there in court and their lawyers are going back and forth and Ray Liotta say. Wow you know Nicole. Like getting drunk around their kid and expressed expressed concern to her husband that she might be like injure their child because of her and creation. And it's you know this is just like a sort of human moment between them and that has there's just been weaponized. Yeah and that's another moment where you never saw. Charlie tell his lawyer that right you have to just imagine the conversations the many conversations they had that were woven into that narrative which the lawyers consciously talk about as their narrative and their story and their way of and make up your mind as to whether that was just like kind of an idol thing that he he told him or whether really what it was like I need like what can I use. Charlie knowingly says like hey she said this thing about drinking too much and there's some equivalents on the other side the two right. You've seen it more recently than I. I think there's also some information that Charlie offers more or less innocently that gets weaponized against him. Well right and all this stuff about He's putting this real bind because he keeps saying New York family And then he has this issue where if he doesn't get a place in L. A. to stay then he's he's kind of abandoning his child and a custody but if he lets go of his place in New York then he's admitting that he's moved to La La and then he'll never get to take us get back to New York and a theater director. He can't afford to like have apartments in to the most expensive cities in the country simultaneously Hamilton Asleep. But he's kind of over a barrel he can't not have one or the other. It's sort of hard to imagine how he is managing his life. The part of me. That's really identified with overbooked. DOC disorganized people really sympathize with that part of the movie where he's racing around l a with a play apparently being put on in his absence as the director in New York. And I don't know who's renting his apartment or what's going on but That whole section where he rents that depressing Beige apartment which by the way is a triumph of location scouting or set building. Whichever it is that just so perfectly communicates the generic of an apartment that you get when you were miserable and you don't WanNa live there But that whole period of the movie gives you the sense of you know this invisible life that you don't see the New York Life just spinning out of control right and one of the recurring elements in this movie. Which is the thing that I have ruled is a little bit especially because it feels does very kind of woody Allen e there's a lot of la versus New York talking this always weighted towards New York But there is a running gag. Where every time him someone in? La Talks about how they're the only thing they say is the space. There's you know just so much space so charlie moved into this apartment and yeah there is a lot of space but it's completely like Beige and featureless. There's going to be this sort of social worker. Come visit this place to see if he's providing like a decent environment for his kid and he ends up like skyping with the set designer liner from his theater. Company to kind of outfit this place in a way that makes it look hospitable and Social worker approved. I guess I think to me. That's one of the Bravura era sequences in the movie when the social worker comes to observe his parenting in that in that depressing Beige apartment. Because it's so understated. I mean she could be so much more of a villain and then she is or she could be some sort of comically over the top You Know Grim Guardian type. But she's just this very expressionless bureaucrat. Who communicates absolutely absolutely nothing during her evening with him? Which Adam driver plays the comedy in this so well very dark comedy in it just it drives him into this kind of self destructive frenzy of doing making himself self look worse and worse as a parent more? He tries to make himself look good right and that character of the social worker is kind of this is almost like the Saturday night live characters really sort of Mousy mousy glum like lower register voice. Like she's just like you know moving through rubber cement at every step frenzy. Is that much more pronounced. Because it's like being played off her. Yeah the end of that scene where he gashes his own arm for essentially no reason trying to demonstrate to her that he is a great parent I mean and it was just that was that was kind of Bomba comedy at its best. You know the way that he can take people's own worst impulses and kind of self sabotaging behaviors and turn them into comedy right. And that's one of the a bit too that that watching it again. You sort of see subtle references to it. Everyone so he has this thing that he calls like a knife trick where he carries base of the sort of miniature box cutter on a keychain. A friend of mine was like if he's flying back and forth from New York like every week and presumably not checking a bag. How is he getting a miniature box cutter with them but he does this thing where he pretends to slit his wrist? And then you know like retracts the blade at the last minute. And he's like Oh you know in his son says hey the social worker the nitric. He's like no. That's not a at dinnertime. In fact it's not at any time thing but he pushes so he tries to show it to her and he fails to retract the blade and like actually just almost they cut his arm erm open. Everything's fine he's gushing blood everywhere to but if you go if you go back and watch like the phone conversation where Laura dern earn calls him up and it's like you're at a time like you need to hire a lawyer because in in three days you're going to thirty days is up and we're just gonNA take every want. He's in the stairwell at his theater company and see him like playing with a knife in that. Seems like a little tick at that point but once you know where that's GonNa payoff like adds more residents so that's the more reason to see it again. Yeah Yeah I love the way that every detail does get picked up again. There's almost a doubling structure to it. It contains two Halloween's right to different Halloween celebrations. A lot of things that happen in this movie happened twice so you know once horrible once bearable or vice versa I mean one example of that might be the huge fight the giant operatic fight that they have in the in the depressing Beige apartment which is almost like the the the equal and opposite reaction to that opening loving montage of seeing their happy life together because once again as with with the mediator you see them going into a situation with all the best intentions her dropping by his house for them to have this light conversation about. You know that you need to sign these papers. What's the thing that she's trying to make happen when she comes to his apartment? That's right yeah and it just so quickly but very believably devolves into this this operatic screaming fight and Adam driver's performance in that. CNN is particularly. He takes it so much farther than I mean yes he gets mad and like punches the hole in a wall. And we've all sort of seeing that kind of male anger like expressed on film and they're very careful to sort of block it so he is like turning away at away from Scarlett Johansson punching the wall. So there's no physical threat to her there and but then he just starts screaming at her and he's saying you know like sometimes I just wish that you would get an illness and die. I and his face just like goes read his word just coming out of him in a way that just you know he's just totally out of control and then he just ends up on his knees sobbing And she wrote and he said this very like the whole string of like really horrible things to her but she just kind of touches his shoulder to comfort him him and it's you know people less inclined might be read. That's in a different way but for me I mean the way plays. Is You know these are to be balloon. Luneau each other really well and she knows a that. He doesn't mean that but B. also how upset at his wit's end he would have to be talk to her like that and she is I kind of giving and sympathetic enough person to to see his pain rather than her You know offense or or hurt you know into to reach out to him that and it's a really Touching and profound moment and kind of when this movies the best. Yeah just really seen. Were both of them are at their best as actors precisely because like you say they're able to modulate these extreme emotions with also still recognizing each other and each other's his past and I think that's also the scene where she uses this endearment and she calls him honey in the middle. Maybe not the middle but somewhere near the beginning of the ramping up of their fight you know and that's just another kind if trace. I don't even know if we've heard her call him that earlier in the movie. But it's one of those rare glimpses you get into this earlier time when they were happy and it makes it all the more painful how they're falling apart right. I I think one of the questions. The movie is sort of asking or tension. A lot of the scenes is how much of that interaction between them is just kind of muscle memory. Memory you know. Is this actually. Do they actually still love each other's or they just people who are getting used to dealing with each other in a different way and just kind of it's the vestiges of this thing. That is kind of dying off and I think it's a real and imagined if you go through that process like that's a lot of what you are going to be wondering for awhile and finding a new way way to interact with and love and respect each other and at least deal amicably with each other or are you just kind of living off the fumes of what. What was there before until they run out? I mean I think at that point in the movie you might say. It's the ladder but I would say by the end. I mean not to ship Charlie Nicole too hard but I would say that the end that I think that they still have have love for each other when she comes over. Here's him reading with Henry the letter that he finds the letter from the beginning about about his good qualities that she never read aloud. Yeah Yeah Yeah I feel like there's a moment of tenderness there where you can imagine a future for them that would be affectionate yet distant right and one of the things that comes out of this opening monologue is Nicole all says one of the things she loves about Charlie is that he's in both of those. I guess but that you know that she loves it. He's kind of the organized one. She's kind of she's sort of passionate et and messy and he's the one who is better at just like either doing dishes but also just organizing things and kind of the last real beat in you get in the movie. Is She and her new boyfriend. Kind of going off to dinner and her family didn't really talked about yet. Going off to dinner on Halloween. Their sons tired so Charlie says look. I'll take him home and then she bends down to tie his shoelace than that he and his son can walk off into the sunset and just that little moment of care also the sense that you know. He's he's that sort disorganized one now. She is able to kind of step up. And you pull them together and just very little symbolic way is is I think very nice I mean again. I know people who have seen that in medical bike. That's that's pretty clawing or on the nose but I think you've been through enough. WHOA at that that point in in the film to feel he earned a little sap right? I mean if you get that far in the movie and you don't care at all about the two of them being okay with each other then I just feel like you're watching the wrong movie. Words just failed and there's nothing to save it at that point. Yeah I'M GONNA take time out from our conversation one more time for a word from today sponsors. Hey this is Rosemary Rosemary. And I'm the producer here for slate spoiler specials if you ever wanted to start your own podcast. You might think you need all kinds of equipment to set it up but it turns out all UNITA's he does anchor. 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The a little bit and that can be a way of getting into Sondheim in music which I want to talk to you about because I know you're writing about that for slate But her family is this charming and important. I think part of of of the backstory. She's the only one who really gets. Family is a backstory. We don't meet any members of his family or learn about the place that he came from. There's just a mention of alcohol and violence in his background in the sense that he was from Indiana and he moved to New York on his own doesn't speak to his parents and implied there and maybe even possibly stated there I think is that her family has become a kind of surrogate family for him. Right I mean it's kind of a running gag actually like how much her mother played by. Julie Hagerty loves Charlie and that in fact it's even when they're getting divorced. She's kind of back channeling and and talking him just because she like the so fond of seems in some ways more fun than than our daughter right. She calls him Charlie Burge he had a nickname for him. They have a special hugs and secret. Language also merit weaver who plays. Her sister has a small but very charming part as hurt her nervous. Nellie sister Seems to be very attached to Charlie and so when he walks into the house. There's this sense that everything's fine and he's home and that Nicole is then alienated by that very acceptance that her family extends to him so as we mentioned earlier on one of the few things that there is spoil about this movie is the to musical performances near the end there. So unexpected I mean Charlie. Nicole are not musical theater. People their their regular avant-garde straight drama people and we never hear them talk about musicals or about Sondheim and then yet at this moment. That's almost parallel cut. It's not peril. Oh cuts to scenes are almost back to back right. We see both of them separately on separate coasts each perform Assan time song from the same musical company and It's never explained why those songs. Why did they choose them? What's their background with them or anything like that? But I feel like it's such a rich dramatic moment in which again we can read so much backstory but tell me about the two songs and how they appear in the movie what you think. They're doing well the first one we see. I mean these kind of came into the film. According to Noah Baumbach kind of in reverse order but the first one we see he is having a party. Nicole's MOM's house and she and her mom and her sister are performing this trio from company called. You could drive a person crazy at basically basically kind of a breakup song. It's about this female character kind of coming to a parting of the ways with character. Bobby who's kind of the central figure in company. He's perpetually single man all of whose friends are married telling him that he's got to get married while at the same time using him to kind of express all the dissatisfactions in their own marriages and this is kind of breaking up with him. This is the last recorded. The song is Bobby is my hobby and I'm giving it up so it's a playful song of liberation but it also does kind of come into decision to kick bobby to the curb and Sort of read that. The bobby is an analogue for Charlie And that gets underlying very much in the subsequent scene where very next scene or is there something inbetween. It's it's soon after. At least I mean they're very much parallels paralleled very near the end of the movie last twenty fifteen minutes. Yeah it's like the closing of it's Charlie's kind of leaving New York party. He's getting together with his old all his his old theater buddies They go to the Bar Charlie just kind of I mean he must have set it up. Stretch singing like from his seat Being alive which is kind the climactic most emotional memorable song from company. which is about in the case of the show is about bobby lead? You know deciding that he wants to take the chances. And the risks romantic relationship and marriage entails and go through all these great sort give conflicting emotions and really embracing all of them not just good ones but realizing that the bad ones kind of lumped into that he's singing it it at the end of a relationship rather than a prelude to the beginning of one but it's again you know another one of these things done in a single take Adam drivers kind of up back the microphone and back to his seat. You know singing. The song for real turns out. He's actually quite a good. It's vocally demanding song. I mean vallone blown away by his performance of that song. Because not only does it rise completely naturally out of this nonmusical situation And and express you know exactly where his character actor is at in the movie but he actually has vocal chops. He's things really well right. I mean one of things. Noah Baumbach said after the movie premiered in Toronto. Is that Adam driver you know. They're friends Adam Drivers Ben and he was in bombecks movie wobble young yet. I have known each other for for years. They apparently share maybe probably with Greta. Gerwig who used merrily we roll along as a touchstone in her movie lady bird they apparently all SORTA share a fondness for some time so he said that he imagined driver would just sit around and talk about Stephen Sondheim shows for hours and maybe even before he had the idea for marriage story he was just like I wanna a new movie that you sing being alive from company and I mean in a way. The movie is built around that scene from the beginning. And then I think you you can drive a person crazy just came in and kind of opportunistically a neat kind of book into another play. Sort of dual perspectives. To huge emotional emotional moment in the movie it is arguably like borrowing if you know company at all or even just moved by the song at his borrowing a lot of emotions from that but they do fit into play into the film really well as well so it's just going to ask this amplifying chamber for everything that's gone on up to that point And also a perfect contrast with the way her songs performed which is in in company right. I mean it's in in the social setting. It's kind of a cute little performance that she worked up with with her mom and sister it points to how different the world that she's moving into is from his world right. I mean hers. Is this crowded busy world of women and a child in the house us and he is not that he's going to be completely alone he does get partial custody at the end but But he's moving into this world of loneliness and so the the contrast is so starkly pointed up up beautifully by those two songs and I just loved also that there is no back story about. Oh the two of them always loved sondheim would have been easy to throw in some memory of the two of them going to a show or singing the songs together or something like that but you simply have to infer that these two married couples separated by continent and don't know that the other person is choosing song from the musical to perform and what's great great about the way Adam driver does it too is that he's not just singing the song he's doing all the kind of interpreted dialogue that's part of it as well and not just doing the dialogue but but doing it very pronouncedly in the voices of the actors from the original cast recording gave it. If you don't know the album you can tell us what he's doing because he just sort of talking about the side of his mouth and putting on this kind of Nasal Elaine stritch Voisin Song Sung by person who listened to company a a million times in his bedroom and he was a teenager. You can tell that this is just you know a song and album that he knows inside out probably had something to do with him wanted to get into the theater in the the first place and he's performing for his theater company that he's leaving behind and it's just you know brings so much can meaning to that scene. Yeah and it could be so easy when you say it that way. That he's doing the voices from the original cast album which I didn't know it sounds like it could be so precious and over thought and I think it really really takes an actor like Adam driver. There really isn't an actor like Adam driver right now. Maybe there used to be in like Brando's Day or something but it takes somebody with that kind of I don't know that that quality that he has always having an offscreen life that's just as interesting or more interesting than what he's living onscreen. I mean Adam driver always seems like that to me even back to the days of girls Charles and I seen him on. TV that his acting gestures toward this rich. Inner life that you're not necessarily get access to right because he also sorta seems like someone who's mind is always just like a little bit somewhere else. He's very involved in the scene and the character but you also feel he could be sort of doing critic equations or like making a grocery list in the back of his head even as he's like in the middle of the scene he's always a little bit not there and that sort of written into his character as well right. I mean that he is this Theater director who's WHO's great when he's on when he's directing and he's plugged into his theater that's kind of established at the beginning that he's sort of his most true self. When he's with this group of performers and trying to collaborate written create something together but in the real world and his marriage and in his relationship to the law into the you know social worker who comes to his house in all those scenarios he feels awed out of place and doesn't seem to fit in and that is also perfect for just? I'm not sure if it's the person that driver is or the kind of character is he plays but again it's just it's just work right and someone who is kind of were sort of told a little bit mostly left to infer but someone who grew up without a solid kind of home family structure has really we built it for himself in this marriage and his is very kind of good and and competent within that structure. But you take it away and he's kind of flailing again and you see him you know very confidently making dinner you know. He apparently is the one who does most cooking at home and very confidently doing that on in this kind of opening monologue monologue sequences but then when he tried to do it with the social worker in La. He's just he's totally like at odds into like you know almost fatally fatally slitting his own wrists by accident and he's just and he ends up at the end of that scene just lying down on the floor in the kitchen paper towels stuffed into this whole his arm. I love that. He's still trying to front with the kid is just so dark. I was I think the only person in my screening who was rolling floor laughing at slid scene but the moment that the kid comes in to get something and he just sorta covers the blood with his body and says I'm fine. I'm just resting just lying down on the floor of the kitchen as one does. Yeah so let's bring it on home to the ending. So we've had the back toback Sondheim I performances part of what's on I'm performances mean is that we know where they are. Now Right. I mean I feel like that's that's the part of the movie where they both sort of land in the place that they're going to be at the end and even although his singing shows that he's damaged messed up he's also sort of okay bidding goodbye to his New York Life. She seems thoroughly -Sconsin her life and actually pretty happy by the end. She even finds a new boyfriend who we learn. Nothing about really accepted. He's there on the last Halloween and he seems to be part of her family. Now in the way Charlie used nice and cute and and nothing else driver put it that way. So after we see them settled into their SONDHEIM subject positions. How do we see them through to the end? What's the last we see of Nicola Colin Charlie again? This is something we're told about. That happened rather than seeing it happening. But we get a sense. There's a party at Nicole's and Laura dern characters as well well you know since Charlie agreed to move to La And you know you don't really need any more. Everything settled. And it was like He. He did. When did that happen? In other words the movie it kind of jumps over but he has used Charlie got a place in La he's taken a residency at an La Theater. which we know is something that he was offered before and turned down Without inner sort of fully early consulting with with Nicole So he's making a place for himself on the West Coast see still seems to be alone But as you know putting down roots at least kind of reconcile to the fact that this is where his ex wife and his son live and if he wants to be part of either of their lives he's is going to have to at least have like a pretty substantial footprint there. I hope you got a better apartment. You know it's it's a process Yeah and she seems to be Nicolas's Ben kind of growing through the whole movie like she's really the one her period of being stymied were kind of before the movie starts arts and she is just kind of really expanding in a way that you get a sense that she really kind of wasn't allowed to or didn't allow herself to in the marriage so she's been not even emmy nominated. Isn't that something that they say she's Emmy nominated not for acting but for directing directing inches ball. Actually directed at episode is like like Azis like oh so now I know what you do and that sort of like oh right. She doesn't have to be like the actress WHO's directed by the director. She could just direct. I can't help but think of that as a GERWIG moment I are. You are certainly free to read it and And then it's Halloween again right. We saw them. Have this horrible Halloween. which we haven't really talked about? But the one where he forces the kid to go Out Trick or treating a second time and they have a fight about what costume. He'll wear all of that stuff. Those those petty disagreements felt so real to me in that first bad halloween. But they're not that pointed up but once again with this this doubling structure. I was talking about. Halloween comes back and this time. It's okay. Yeah they've sort of reconciled in the first one they are This is is the moment we find out that Nicole has found out belatedly about the affair. She like hacked into Charlie's emails which really have reminded judge is actually a federal crime but she's acting to his emails found these back and forth with him in the stage manager realizes that Yeah he was cheating on her. That affair didn't actually play into the divorce. 'cause she finds out about it later. But there's this kind of underlying hostility that we don't quite understand the origins of it. I but Charlie has come out from New York took retreat with her son. He got this special costume made by his costume designer from his theater company was the costume designer. That made the costume was in fact that when each that might bear And the kid is like no I just WanNa be like I forget what it is like you know power ranger like something store-bought because his cousins are going to be that I so identify with the parent whose thrusting the arrest take homemade costume on the kid. Yes me yeah exactly. And then and then she says well look. We're you know we're going to go trick or treating with the cousins and like they don't especially her sister does not want Charlie along so like you can take afterward. And he's like well. There's no there aren't too like cycles of trick or treating you get go back out at eight o'clock or whatever so just another anti L. A.. Poke right that they have to be driving around in the dark right and eventually ends up like kind of kid walk into a liquor store and like they give them like a lollipop the counter like eight or eight thirty or something like that but this is total failure. They just ended up like in Adam Roberts hotel room like not doing anything. It's what are those like. He can picture the kid like talking to the therapist about the worst Halloween they ever had Be a flash forward a year and they are this more not exactly act like a blended family. But they're sort of more reconciled larger unit of You know ex husband and ex wife boyfriend son Mother and sister all kind of working in some sort of new equilibrium than maybe he's in totally established but at least is gelling into something workable. And if I remember right that that shooed lace time when what you talked about is really the last gesture between them up the movie right. I mean ties issue. She sends him off with the kid and on she also seeds custody to him right. I mean that's a symbolically important moment right. It's not seats permanent custody but just says it's my weekend but go ahead and take him. Yeah you go ahead and take him home like he's tired. It's my but you go. You take them home and we'll just go out to dinner and meet later and it's now they've been extricated from this sort of litigious process of settling the divorce they can the give and take like human beings a little bit more right I I also remember. I don't remember a lot of camera movements in movie because like I say it's a pretty straightforwardly told movie movie I mean you could critique it for being too conventional or almost TV movie and it's just framing of scenes. But I do love at the end of the way the camera pulls up in a way and frames james them in a landscape right. I mean it's been a movie of a lot of close ups in two shots and intimate indoor scenes and it ends at this moment outside just on a suburban street where the trick or retreat handoff happens but the way the camera kind of moves on a crane in a way gives you a sense that you're their world is expanding and that our world is expanding too right. I mean I saw this movie be twice in some very beautiful movie theaters and I am glad that I did but also not one that breaks my heart to think of people watching at home on that flex like I think think it'll do as long as you don't sit down and watch it at you know in two hours and don't do it in chunks over your commute. I think it'll it'll work just fine in that environment environment. One last thing before we sign off on marriage story what do you think of its Its Oscar chances on we just this morning came from the New York Film Critics Circle Meeting where the only thing that marriage story got somewhat to. My my surprise is that Laura dern got supporting actress award which was sort of partly for this and partly for a little women like an umbrella award over. Both I had thought that this movie which is very crowd-pleasing. I mean the crowd loved it when I thought that would maybe sweep a little bit more of our awards but do you think in the season in general it will do. Well I mean I from what I know and I I am far from the world's Best Oscar predictor but I do know some people were much better than I do and they are generally agree that Laura dern in is probably the favorite supporting actress at this point. That obviously doesn't mean she's GonNa win but she's a very strong contender for that and it is a sort of more kind of intimate chamber drama thing that the Academy has mostly favored in the recent years. They oddly have not been going for the big four quadrant hundreds of millions of dollar movie kind of movie. You know they don't. They're not going for like huge box office successes for the most part so I think this kind of fits that profile As well I mean the academy has become substantially more diverse over the last several years. They've added a ton of new members. This is there's no getting around and extremely white movie but then again Green Book One last year. So that's not Duma movies Oscar. Chances at this point still still. Yeah I'm I'm curious to see how it does because it's one of those movies that you could imagine doing well in almost any category but maybe as we were saying earlier. It's not quite cinematic enough or innovative enough that it's going to really grab anyone's attention in any one particular area right a minute. If I had to totally spit ball I mean I think you know it probably stands a like a stronger chance in screenplay than it does in something like director or best picture both and extremely well written movie and extremely like clearly written movie like it's just you can in very clearly see how the virtues of it come from the writing on. Its feels like. Oh well they probably just made that up on the fly and the scenes feel even though apparently Laura dern whenever big monologues was kind of at least built out of an Improv. It feels like a very clearly concisely precisely written movie. And I think that's would be a sensible to recognize it all right well. I'm curious to see how it does now that we're heading into award season Sam. Thanks so much for coming in to spoil our engineer today was merit our producer. Was Rosemary. Belsen if you have ideas about other movies or TV shows that you would like to spoil you can always drop us a line boilers AT SLATE DOT com. 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Scarlett Johansson, Brie Larson, Adam Sandler, Kourtney Kardashian

Ellen on the Go

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Scarlett Johansson, Brie Larson, Adam Sandler, Kourtney Kardashian

"Hi, it's Ellen Degeneres. Welcome to my podcast. We're gonna listen to some of the best moments from the show, and it's going to be hosted by four executive producers that I love happy listening on today's episode of Ellen on the go. Scarlett Johansson, Embry Larson, discussed their very first kiss. Adam Sandler answer some burning questions. Courtney crash celebrates were fortieth birthday. And Ellen helps get a marriage proposal surprise of a lifetime. So welcome everybody to Andy and friends. Oh, it's such a pleasure to be a guest Unandi friend. Well, welcome. I'm Andy last ner. Mary Connolly, I'm Ed glavin. I can't even the second. I'm Kevin I'll say you are you. Sure are we've had a very wonderful week. Eventful week. I missed the story about Breen Scarlets, I kiss when did they kiss? I they it wasn't did not kiss each other. It was their first kisses. I see it's like they're. Yes. When thank you, and and breathe three Larsen as my understanding could not recall her first kiss realizes first appearance on our show. I believe it was last year this season here. I don't think so. And she's just amazing. She's really like holy cow. I love her Corey, God bless them. Kept pitching Bryson. And I probably was the one going. Podcast. You can say it. Listen, I'm Eddie bowling alley. Like a super marvel nerd now. So as as all we found I don't think he seen in marvel fans found out she was going to be captain marvel every woman conquers we have to have her on. But it hadn't crossed ED's. No it took. It took a minute for me. She's amazing. And now she seems down to earth. She seems fun. And she and she and Scarlett together what a home run appearance like they were fantastic. They were really cute when they walked on. And they played an amazing game here. So fun. Here's a listen. Now, I heard that you can't remember if you had your first kiss onscreen or offscreen. How is that possible? Is that true? Yeah. I don't know what that says about who. I was kissing. Thank you blocked it. I guess I blocked it out. It was that mean it was bad. Yeah. It doesn't mean. It was good. Yes. It definitely wasn't good bad. How early back which the first kiss. You can remember you can remember I can remember in sixth grade like well. Yeah. Twelve or thirteen that was my first kiss. It was like this is. Spin the bottle. Yeah. Involves spin the members of the bottle. I would spin the bottle. I was too nervous about it. Probably wanna give anybody. Right. Clearly, you don't like kissing. No, no. Do you? Remember your first kiss? I remember my first kiss. But I didn't like the person that I kissed and so I just decided what to say there's no, yeah. And was it a French kiss? Remember, if I don't think so I think it was one of those growth in between ones. I think I like. When it was like early on when when you're learning kiss, you really don't it's just you don't really know. You don't know what you're supposed to do with your teeth your? Your whole thing is would. That's why you don't remember. Yeah. All locked it out. But it was like that. I'd remember. Probably super benign. We also played a game with those layers ladies. In fact, I hosted it not a brag total brag total brag. But you have to watch it on your DVR because they're playing this game where balloon is constantly inflating in front of them. And when the balloon finally plot, I'm not gonna tell you which team it is. But you've got to watch the reaction. It's very funny. Also, Kevin was having a good arm day. So you should probably play with of it here. But you should probably go. Thanks. Johanneson said and sense in twitches here too and sensitive to play superheroes in the movies. Twitchen I are basically superheroes on TV. We thought we would play a game. It's called who saves the world girls. Here's how we play. Kevin is gonna take turns asking each team a trivia question as soon as he's done the balloon in front of us will start to fill up when you know, the answer press the button to stop the balloon from filling. If you get the answer wrong the balloon will keep filling if nobody on the team knows you get three second penalty. And it goes to the other team the first team to let the earth blow up is the loser. Hey. Who you starting with? Oh god. What television show was made? What television show made the phrase winter is coming popular? Oh, I pressed him for you know, what is it came on? You got it. Ellen which we would've known that one. Who's things the songs crazy in love and drunk in love. Lord kept going every hit an extra point. You got it beyond. Scarlet bring what's the name of Kim, khloe and Courtney's, brother. Rob bam. Twitch? What state is known as the Empire State, New York. Very bam. Very. Embry what two vendors have both played Sherlock, Holmes robber and Benedict. Sorry. Also, he only had one before and you push it when you want. So that all that matters. I think you do what? He's you. On the person that I'm the boss. Understood twitch, which actor perform music under the name childish Gambino. Say that scarlet and breed name Prince, William and Kate's children. Oh, no. We got Charlotte. George and there's another one there's another one with the little one off. Toured in Henry. You are. Here at heard it. What was Louis very? What was longer than three seconds? That was terrible. Which? Brother action of the family Butler in the fresh prince BelAir Jeffrey. Obviously Breen what late night comedy sketch show first aired in nineteen seventy five late night s. No, yes. Are you good? Every year. Parents face the same dilemma, my parents, certainly faced it what we can do with the kids this summer. 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Learn more about their great programs go to our special URL math EM dot com slash Ellen or call eight five five nine. Nine twelve math. That's eight five five nine twelve math. Learn more today math museum dot com slash Ellen or call eight five five nine twelve m a t h this was interesting to me, Adam Sandler, Adam Sandler, high love, Adam. But Adam sandlers seeming genuine affection for Ellen. Yes. Like, he. He's not a guy who's done our show a lot. He's done her show. A couple of times over the years. Right. Yeah. Any sort of legendary talk show guests on the late night. Talk shows a staple on Letterman. Always look forward to seeing Adam Sandler on Letterman. And and we just didn't get him as much right? And he just took over our show this. He's really became most of the show when he was a male in his just just loves having him here absolute well, and he said lifelong friend of David spades. Right. An Ellen is a lifelong friend of David spades. And so they. On the action. Kevin do you have friends not many? Kevin has so many friends actually Kevin does have. Here's what I think is true about Kevin wants to be once, you're his friend. You never fall out. Like, you're always that's true. You're always the same thing with Julie. Like, if you're Julie's friend in high school, like you're still a friend. You know, you're still stay in touch. I've got three friends from my freshman year of college here. But that's are they going to be guessing the podcast. That's amazing. After that him, Sandler and Adams movie. He geneticist and get interrogated by cops. So we thought we would do a little interrogation. It's time to play burning questions to answer the question. And then you hit that for no reason, but the answer and then you hit that. I that. I that. And it's, but it doesn't really mean anything have you ever been in handcuffs in real life? Yes. All right. I have not. Aside your face what body part. Do you look at the most in the mirror. I I don't wanna look at it. But the thing. I don't wanna look at it at all it just happens. That's what I see. I don't wanna look at it. Look at it. Because something in my head tells me to look. But it's not like out of joy. It's like all right. It's still there. Everything's great. That's it. Keep k. All right. What's something that you do that embarrasses your kids? Oh, talk my shirt. That's every time. I go to school. I just so I don't talk my here in real life. It's just so early in the morning, and I get my pants on my shirts tucked in. And then I hear as I'm walking down. The the stairs the undock. You're talking journal. Like what happened? What up please, don't go to schooling? Tuck shirt. All right. When was the last time you got out of a speeding ticket for being famous every time. But it hasn't happened for years. How many times have you been pulled over for speeding? Honestly that much one hundred. Hasn't you? I I've only gotten pulled over for speeding twice recently. And in both times, I got out of, but but I do a lot for the police department and fire department. I do a lot of donations. And and so yeah, yeah. This guy I was pulled over for speeding on this. This guy walks up to me, and I had the window down and he walks up. And he goes, I'm sure you know, that oh my God. My wife loves you. Changed right away. So guys, as you know, mother's day is just around the corner. So if if you're anything like us, you wanna give your mom or the mother of your children are really thoughtful gift that she will always cherish. Well, there's one gift that thousands of moms have been calling the best gift ever. It's called skylight is a photo frame that you can Email photos to anytime for anywhere. It sets up effortlessly in just under sixty seconds. Just plug it in use the touchscreen to connect to your wireless network and enjoy sending photos to skylight is effortless. Everyone in your family can just Email photos to mom skylight. And they'll pop up in her home in seconds skylight frame has a gorgeous ten inch touchscreen. You can swipe through photos with your finger. You can even tap to. Thank the person who sent the photo and one hundred percent satisfaction guaranteed. If you don't love your skylight. They'll offer you a full refund. You can preloaded with your favorite photos for personalized gift. It's so simple. That even any non tech savvy mom or dad could set it up and use it as a special mother's day offer, you can get ten dollars off your purchase of skylight frame when you go to skylight frame dot com and enter code Ellen. That's right to get ten dollars off your purchase of a skylight frame. Just go to skylight frame dot com and enter code Ellen. That's S K Y L I G H T F R A M E dot com. Promo code E. L L E N and happy mother's day. Everybody. We had a surprise this week that did have a surprise this week. Most of the people in this room were in on it except for Mary. Conley. Earning degrees, knowledge, right? Yes. So I was perfectly aware that. There was a plan. Right. But I didn't see the script. Ed knew about the integration happening before. I knew about it. But what was happening? Well, I to edit and the levels of things that happened a lot of things had to happen behind Mary's back. We I said to add Mike, we should get a sponsor for the rash after we've talked about poor Mary. She's had. This rash won't go away. It's really needed terminate selection Sittard, chronic chronic. So I turn around to Stephanie Walters. A lovely woman from our team who reaches out to sponsors, Brandon integrations team partners. Yep. And three days later, she comes back. She goes cortisone ten wants to sponsor rash, which was the greatest day of my life. She just goes in Google's rash cream. What's that? I mean, and this company was so smart because they gave us a few bucks. And we spend it throughout the entire act one man to win. How pull off a surprise like this because Mary sees every script she approves all the comedy beats. She like ads throughout the day. Not this day. We scripted all as if we were doing integration with super cuts because Ellen's been teasing twitch off the air about trimming his beard. So at felt natural. I thought it was a good lie. It wasn't good like sept-. It seem very odd. That we rehearsed it with twitch there with yet. Sam twisted. Good acting. We told him because he does not want him as beard. This was coming heated wonderful acting. He looks prize. He looked shocked reveal the soup. We had a super cuts banner printed the whole levels of dissenters at it needed to look real. Did you did you in the morning when Johnny came in in the morning, and he was looking for something to do for Courtney? Kardashians walk on and he goes, oh we've marching band today show. I. And I was like I'm not aware of marching band today show. I heard the reference to the marching band, and I was like, I don't, you know, I make most of the meetings, occasionally, I miss a meeting, but I make most of the meetings, and I was like how I missed that. There's a marching band today. Like, I just did not understand where there was a marching band in that morning meeting. And then then when it was the twitch thing, I was like, oh, okay. I guess we have a marching band, but I wasn't around for any of the discussion about getting I didn't see a booking Email about a marching band. I was so excited because a lot of these things happen around me and always amazed that I don't have a sense, and they're pretty good at not always telling you because I ask you, and I don't know if you're lying to me. I go something about to happen. You know, I would tell you something happens, but it's unbelievable on earth. That's easier to pull this over on the new your use spend most of your time looking down things happen all day long in on this secret was so excited fear. I couldn't stop talking. He could not marry. He would he told every single person that he knew something those happening on the show that you most up Jenny and crafts on the secret. Stop talking about on the the point. We were for sure he was going to end up telling you I had to keep myself away from you. I have information to things happened before Elyse started reading about the integration that as I look back seemed unusual that happened. I the day happened. You know, I wore baseball hat and a sweatshirt. It wasn't like a great outfit to be you know, on camera in. But that's just what I happen to be wearing that day. And right before I'm in I'm in Ellen's dressing room every day right before we walk out, and I had my hat on. And I had my headset and had a couple of hairs were in front of my eyes from that and from the hat, and Ellen ratio ver- and move those. And was like what do you do in these hairs in your? I look a you one more time. I wish I could quit you. It was just like which doesn't happen a lot. But you know, whatever. And then we're out there during the show and Andy sits right next to the podium. We share this podium, Andy sits right next to it. I sit behind it. And he's on a he's on a stool and moments before it happened, Andy Scrooges the stool over to the right? And it's like. While Ellen talk talk any moves to and I go what are you doing? What's wrong? Are you? Okay. Oh, yeah. Are you? Okay. And then boom. And then Ellen starts talking and start saying words that aren't in my script. Yep. Yeah. New to you that nude in the writers had so much fun brainstorming. What it could be? They would like it to be a week runner. I think of cortisone tens. Thank you cortisone cortisone senior giant sign that covered the podium in a cortisone ten. We should advertise on this podcast cortisone ten if they want I can speak, you know, I can speak various rashes gone. To go. Listen, I got to go. Any moment. It's not as. That's what I got to go home with a number of tubes of cortisone the other night. And Julie my wife was like this is great. This is so good to have these. We need the. Rash two. So if you're one of those people as your DVR set to delete after five days, this is your last day to go watch Mary surprise. So go watch that right now on your DVD was worth it. What we do anything else? There's something important. I have to talk about it's Mary's rash. I all season I've been talking about my producer. Mary's rash. She told me about it and confidence. So I've been very careful not to discuss it in public. I only talk about it on my show, and this has been raging out of control, and Mary cannot seem to get away. You just can't you can't quit. You can't. So right Mary. Well, don't worry relief is on the way because this is absolutely true. Mary my friends at cortisone ten heard about your struggle. And they understand this braid battle you're going through. And they wanna help you beat this thing. So they sent this basket for you know. And Mary, I know you wanna take care of things as discreetly and quietly as possible. So I am happy to announce that cortisone ten is also sponsoring our show today. And as much. Much like your rash has spread all over the place. Their sponsorship is reading all over the studio. So I'm proud to unveil the riff rash room. We're also busy with the show during the week. It's hard to find time to fit in hot breakfast. But we just heard about this thing called just crack Neg hot fluffy scramble yet ready in less than two minutes. How's that possible? You have to do that a fresh eg over there. Diced ingredients stirred up maker and boom you're hot breakfast dreams. Have been answered I want this immediate. I know there's actually seven different scrambles. There's the Denver the veggie southwest aisles more than I can even name. So you've gotta try just cracking and take breakfast back. Go get it in exile. Andy, this is so up your alley the automatic pink cake maker. It's like two minutes a lot of times. I don't have time to eat. That sounds like a great thing. Now coming up later on the podcast. We're gonna reveal things about the Kardashians. You will not believe. Yes. But first we talked about Mary surprise. Yes. There's another surprise this week. I think was the best proposal we've ever done on the show. Yeah. Marriage proposals. Don't totally just if you've worked in television for a while as we all have you've seen marriage proposal. Sure you've been around them. You've seen them. You've produced them. I personally have sometimes become a little jaded to them. This genuinely moved me the way this was executed on our program with Justin thing I've ever seen before. This is going to be hard. You have to watch this. It's going to be hard to sort of get the whole thing by listening. You'll get some of it. But you must go home and watch this right or on the Ellen show. It's it starts with the game of an I'll just say as a person who's you know, I come from this world. I've produced these kinds of things my entire career. They pretty much always go. Well for me because I not a Bruce them. But. I say they don't go. Well. Failed. Hit. Go ahead. But there's some things if you when you listen to it. No that we so they play a game of blindfolded musical chairs and all of the contestants are staff members, except for the woman who's going to be proposed to and then what happens is while she's blindfolded and dancing all the other contestants leave, and there are signs happening on the screens that the audiences cheering for as they learn that this guy is going to propose to his girlfriend and even the guy walks on. And you don't know like you see him as she doesn't know. He's there, and it's just all it'll be cool to listen to gonna play for you now. And then you really should go to your DVR and check it out. Okay. Let stand up stand up. Oh, no. You didn't you didn't take take your vines off? He didn't win. Maybe surprise. Seeing you take off the blindfold is like the first time. I saw is playing the nose game with me Picco ever since I've been looking at those is in this falling more and more in love each day. I love you so much. I told you I've been waiting for the perfect time to ask you this. The only thing that would make it better if your family's were here. So let's out. Brings. Halen indeed in the family, and they just got engaged because dean said can you help with this proposal because you're a fan of the shows you're here in the audience a couple of weeks ago, I understand and this is the what someone saw on just seeing it for the first time. Were you were very excited when? Apparently came. Yeah. So you cry a lot. Yeah. Yeah. All right. That's beautiful in my mouth is bored. There. She is again was it hard. Keeping a secret we were on a camping trip and Yosemite. And we have this rule put your phone away. No texting up. Good. And I'm having Tex people about this whole day two days ago. So. And I was like can you get us time? And he's like, it's important. I'm like, okay. And he's like, I'm about baseball. And I'm like okay than me. See, you never know, you never know. All right when we got your wedding gift because well, I talked to her friends shredder fly. Of course, I talked to them a lot, and they know that planning a wedding can be very expensive. So they wanna help with check for twenty thousand. Tracey gold, right? There said she made that happen. And did a great job with one of our producers on baby baby. She can be such a good mom. We hit a Kardashian this week. We did Horton. We had Courtney cut ashen who just celebrated her fortieth birthday. It's unbelievable. I feel like I've grown up with that family. Really? No, okay. I know a lot of people do feel that way. But yes, she she celebrated fortieth birthday had a huge birthday party, which she did not invite Allen to know which Ellen brought up and so she stopped by the show. We the Kardashians. Feel very at home on our show seems that way and they're polarizing family. I I know people my personal life who are like they either love this family or they just want nothing to do with them. And they're polarizing, and I think when they come here and sit with Ellen. It's it's the most sort of regular and authentic way. You can see these people usually in my opinion, I'll say this about Gordon Kardashian. You're in love with her comfortable with her body. Yes. She is. Yep. She's okay with it. She sure as they she has. She doesn't have a top fine. She's Instagram with feet. She's cover her her body with an eye patch. She's fine with it. She seems in photos as semi clothed at times as Ed usually is. And if you know, Ed and we've all worked with Ed for sixteen years. So we know this like, we know, you know, anything Ed reluctantly puts clothes on every day. You prefer at anytime. His he's like, he's a nude likes. He likes being new. This is my had a great bot. I wanna show always really comfortable with great. It was really a gift my body. So they share that they seem to share that in common. But here's Chloe a little bit of it on our show. Now, I actually think we're gonna play of Courtney who was the guest. What I meant was khloe watch this clip of Courtney. Here you go. Scott is you seem to really be you're talking about co-parenting and doing video they'll seem to be actually like getting along we get along. Really? Well, he was texting me today said, hey to come on Eleanor today and said, no, no he said, let's do it next time. Whatever. I said, I don't need you what with the marching band. Exactly. But yeah, no, we get along. Really? Well, I feel like, you know, we traveled together with the kids. We he definitely makes it clear that the kids are his priority. And he checks in with me every morning, you know, throughout the day every night just to make sure that I'm good. And that you know, the kids are good. And it's just it's such a nice change. I feel he's finally grownup grown up. Yeah. That's what I was gonna say. All right. So here's what here's what I'll tell you. I is the name of the show is keeping up with the Kardashians. I think it's impossible to keep up with the card action. So I have to ask questions. So okay. We had a baby with a man named tristen. Yes. Right. So then they broke up. Yes. And then they got back together. Yes. Now, they're broken up again. Yes. Earlier keeping up, okay? And keeping up with the Kardashians. So they're they're broken up. Do you think this is anything they'll get back together? Again. I mean, I don't know. I don't think that deeply into it. But I know that she's very strong, and that I just feel like she's in a really good place. Like, I know what it's like to want to make your family, you know, stay together because I worked really hard at that for many years. But you know, I think she's just like this is what's happening right now. I think she's really good at dealing with her emotions. And I think moments like this really bring our family closer together. And like, you know, you realize how important family is. I think you know, that's the best. She can do. And she's well best mom to her daughter. And that's her. That's like where all of her energy is going as it should is it should and. Baby is cute. Oh, RIDICULOUSLY CUTE, baby. I like every time I see like this to her cheeks and shake them. Yeah. She's gonna love that gets older. God there's so much drama. It's amazing when you live your life in such a public way of all the good stuff is seen and then all the bat stuff, and you know, as a celebrity, I know that, and that's why sometimes there's a certain things try and keep my son just stop talking because Andy will just fill Billy. Hindi can't handle silence. Stupidity. What I'm listening to myself? And I think what stupidity Andy I was driving. I know. But I don't often see come a listener to my own stupidity. Andy, I was driving home last night. Yes. Sun was setting. And I and I got thinking about this. And I really I really wondered about this dynamic, and I just thought you were probably best to answer this question. Yes. What is it like to live in the fish bowl that you live in? It's a celebrity. It's very hard. And that's why I like that's why I try and spend as much time with you. And Kevin and Ed is because I want people to know, I'm still a regular person. It's still be. It's just now I'm famous, and I'm in a lot of people's homes on on on on on their computers on their televisions. But here it's still Andy. And I say that to Kevin every day I go Kevin. It's still me buddy with Lori ever. Come and be a guest on the podcast. Please call that would be hard. We just do it. Now. Handle it. There might have to be some wine. Bring wine that'd be so fun. Well, when when do we usually take about three thirty four there will have been wine. We don't have to work. We we once talked to women who waited every day until four to have her first glass of wine because that's when the Ellen show came on. And then the Ellen show moved up to three and things slid downhill for her, really. Thank you for listening everybody, and I'm wishing everyone. If you're listening to this on Thursday when this podcast came out have a great weekend. And just stay tuned for future podcast, very soon where we talk about how he managed to surprise. Kevin Leman who is generally the orchestrator of. Yeah. It was real and this weekend. Good luck to everybody who's nominated for daytime. Emmy, yes, they good luck. And here we go. Subscribe today on full podcast Spotify or wherever you're listening right now. And don't forget to watch Ellen weekdays for even more Ellen fund. But by everybody, thank you. Go thought that I could be free. But now realizing. Eight. We would so love to know more about to hear at Ellen on the go, please head over to wonder dot com slash survey. 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GSMC Scifi Podcast Episode 217: More than Skin Deep

GSMC SciFi Podcast

1:02:55 hr | 7 months ago

GSMC Scifi Podcast Episode 217: More than Skin Deep

"Golden state media concepts side. PODCAST. Gather we dive into the world. In science fiction from APSOS. Star Wars to the. Resident Evil, all the. Science fiction movie from the Bachelor. Marvel or DC state media cuts Sifi pipe, cats. You'll never get signed stations the same way again. First! Just Lo- everybody, welcome back, GS MC. Find podcast brought to you by the GS MC podcast network. I am your host Keith and it is Wednesday July first, which is kind of difficult to believe. were more than halfway through this crazy crazy year We've talked about a lot so far this year Definitely. we've done a lot of movies and today we're doing another movie and that movie is on net flex. It is called under the skin. Stars. scarlet Joe Hanson. And it is directed by Jonathan Glazer. WHO has also directed? Let's see. Sexy beast birth. Did something with massive attack, which doesn't surprise me. something called seven television commercials in another one called the fall, which none of these have seen But we watched under the skin like I, said it came out in two thousand and thirteen. It's. A I mean it's a pretty interesting film It's classified as science fiction, which I'm not really sure as to why it's classified as science fiction. Probably just because they don't really know what else to really like. Classify it. Under. It's definitely. Definitely interesting There's a lot to it. As they're usually as with most things that we talk about on this podcast. So I'M GONNA. Probably spend like the First Section of the podcast section, and a half, or so just kind of like describing like the overall plot, and then I'm GonNa talk about like. A lot of the different elements of the film. Just because. I think that. A lot of the film. There are specific scenes in this film that kind of indicate like blackness or nothingness, or avoid and I think that the film is kind of supposed to like. represent kind of like a similar thing not totally sure how I would. Like classify it. I guess but it's definitely interesting, so the film starts out. And we get a lot of a lot of visuals Just as a point of reference, the first proper dialogue like. Two individuals actually talking to each other doesn't happen for thirteen minutes in this movie. which is. Interesting to say the least Scarlett Johansson's character quote unquote. Is never named. In fact I don't think anyone in the film is named because in the credits. They don't list the names of any characters. They just list the actors names, which I find to be interesting. Scarlett Johansson is really like the only decidedly recognizable name. I'm sure that the other actors and actresses that were in the film have done things, but it felt like a lot of the film was just. Scarlett Johansson kind of going about her business. As this particular character or really like I think thing would be a more accurate description of what it is that Scott? Hanson is I guess. So, the basic plot of the film is that. Scarlett Johansson Plays A. Thing. That, we believe is a woman. Sorry I. Don't tell you weird pauses like. It's hard to describe this movie. I WANNA say up at the top like I really liked it. It's not like a highlife. Though it is like in the same vein of like artsy. High Art like. I guess not like Art House. Films It's definitely a trip is the way that I would phrase it, but I definitely I. Really enjoyed it so but Scarlett Johansson plays this thing or this person or this woman that lures. Men, Back to their house or her house, its house. Its in Scotland so that you know I think that's important. I would imagine there's some social commentary happening about things that I have no idea about. Doesn't it here nor there. And, so she lures men back to her place where they are consumed by a mysterious pool of black liquid. We call it water. I guess, but it definitely doesn't seem like that. So she'll lure man back to her home. And then he follows her into a room and he sinks into this liquid while she stays on top of it. And then. The first couple times in a happens, we just see. Like the man, either going into the water shoulders or up to his face, and then like I, think the third time it happens. He. We get to see what happens after their submerged under this liquid. And you see one of her past victims just like floating there and then. The most recent guy that she's lured back. Touches him and then. His body does something weird and like the whole time that he's in the liquid. There's like these weird noises that are being made, so it definitely is like. Interesting it kind of. And like. Kind feels Kinda like spidery I guess would be the right word because they end up getting trapped in this liquid that they can't move out of and then it of seems like their insides. Get eating out. The movie is rated R.. And it like definitely earns that title or that. Just from nudity, Aloun on lots of nudity like one sex scene. towards the end of the film there is a scene that involves some assault, so be aware of that and. Violence is kind of minimal. There's a lot of implied violence, but. I mean like I'm not surprised that it gets the rating because of the nudity, but as far as everything else is concerned. It's pretty pretty PG thirteen. It's definitely like horrifying in a really interesting way. I watched the movie, a ghost story and this film kind shot in a similar fashion to wear. Like lots of long awkward shots of people doing things that you would normally not take the time to contemplate or look at. So. We start the film and. Scarlett Johannesson's character. is kind of driving around profiling for victims. I guess or trolling for victims would be the best way to put it. She is acting lost and then asking questions of the men that she is acting lost towards. to see if. They have any family in the area. Has Anyone who's GonNa come looking for them, so there's definitely like some indication that she's worried about getting caught. But it doesn't seem like there's a problem with disposing of the bodies, because the bodies are consumed in some capacity though. We don't really know why so we see. Scarlett Hanson kind of profiling. She's just kind of wandering like Scotland and. She ends up at a beach. Where we witnessed the we witness, a woman drowned trying to save. I think a dog, and then her husband goes in after her to try and save her, and then also drowns. After beings rescued once he goes back in, and then proceeds to drown and die and his child is. Left on the beach. Yeah without its parents, which is weird. And then. There were introduced at the very beginning of this film to like this really interesting. I. Don't know if I'd call really interesting to this mysterious man who rides a motorcycle. And seems to be kind of like the baby sitter if you will of Scarlett Johansson character. He kind of like falls around and cleans up after her, and like takes general care of her. The film starts out with US watching. Like. I don't WanNa say clone of, but we watch Scarlett Johansson character. Take the clothes off of Scarlett Johansson and then put them on herself and then walk away from that body as if it wasn't like ever real, or if it was real, it's. It's weird. It's kind of explained at the end, but we'll get to that because we're still at the very beginning of the film. And I do recommend watching this film. Even after I I've talked about it I think I might be able to provide some valuable or interesting insight into the overall interpretation that you might have of the film so definitely. Don't be deterred by the spoilers. I don't think there's really anything to spoil about this movie. It's kind of is what it is. So. After the scene with all the drownings, then Scarlett Johansson character continues to trawl for victims and at picking up a deformed gentlemen. Who? She takes back to her home, but doesn't end up like consuming completely I guess so, and this is kind of like the turning point of the film. Where we kind of realized that like maybe scholar Joe character isn't acting under of her own accord acting under the influence of something else. That lives in that House that she was at. Which? And I don't know if that's confirmed or denied later again. There's not a lot to know about this movie, and it all start to make sense as I. Talk More about it. So. She decides that she is not going to consume this this gentleman and decides to sneak him back to his house. I guess. but she keeps his clothes because it seems like the gentleman who is on the motorcycle like follows up with her to make sure that she's I don't meeting a quota or is actually. killing these men. which we don't like, you're GONNA. Look for a motive as to why she's doing what she's doing, and you probably won't find it. I think that. Part of the point is to. Kind of make it up for yourself and I don't know. Regardless again. We'll talk about that later. I WANNA. Finish summarizing this movie so that we can talk about all of the things going on in it. so she ends up deciding that she is going to. Run away. From the House and stop killing men. Question Mark. Yeah I know when you watch the movie, you'll understand why. I'm having such a hard time describing so she drives off into the middle of nowhere abandons this van, which has been present for like the entire film abandons her van. And then just walks out into the mist and comes out in this small little village. Decides to take a bus. To. Walk into the village to get back to your van and then ends up deciding to take a bus, but. In that time we find out that apparently there isn't one mysterious. Man Who is following her around and cleaning up after her, but in fact there are four. but they all look identical to each other. Which I think is explained towards the ending of the movie. It makes sense as to why they would look identical to each other. But they are. Pretty clearly looking for her, so there's this slight sense of paranoia that that someone is kind of after her. So she. Ends up getting on a bus and there's a gentleman on the bus who approaches her and asks if she needs any help, There's been multiple times where she kind of like. Ends up in a situation where she might need help where people start to notice her, even though she genuinely Jenny generally is trying to be inconspicuous about her interactions with the world. So. She. Accepts the help from this gentleman who takes her back to home and treats her very nicely. There's nothing actually really creepy about the way. He handles his interactions with her. In fact, everything meant like occurs between them seems to be pretty consensual. Even though she doesn't say much, but I think that's the point of her character. They ended up going for hike and there's a specific seen that. We'll talk about later. And then. After the hike she goes back to his place and then. We've got just a couple more scenes, so take a quick break, but after the break I'm gonNA finish summarizing the plot, and then we'll get start digging into like different aspects of the film and like. Why. I think it's worthy of being talked about so we'll be right back. You. 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Before the break I had mentioned that Scarlett Johansson character ends up at. Gentleman's home. They, are like going for a walk together. And then there's like this interesting scene where she's walking on a staircase. And then she goes back to the house, and they decide to get intimate with each other, and there's this weird scene where she's kind of looking at herself in trying to figure out like. What's going on with her? Body and a very specific region. which is Kinda like weird? and. The gentlemen realizes what's going on to degree so he's definitely a little weirded out as well and Scarlett Johansson just kind of disappears I guess or she just leaves. And she ends up in the woods in the middle of nowhere where she is approached by a seemingly nice gentleman in the middle of the woods, who I assumed was like a a worker of some sort and then she walks around the woods and ends up in a cabin. Where that guy follows her to it and does. Or attempts to do something that he probably shouldn't. And then she runs away and continues to run away ends up in like a large logging truck which turns out to be this gentleman struck. He then proceeds to chase her into the woods and try to assault her in the process of salting her he. Discovers something really odd about her body. and then runs away, and then comes back and pours gasoline on schedule Hanson's character and lights her on fire Which I'm not really sure why. But we'll get to that. So that's the basic outline of the movie. Now. There are a ton of scenes worthy of discussing, so we will probably pick apart certain scenes in a few minutes, but when I want to talk about I kind of like. What I feel like the point of the movie is. a lot of films. They're very like a to be. This is the plot line. This is kind of these are the conclusions that you can draw from it? This is whatever. This film to me. The cinematography uses a lot of like Light Shadow a lot of darkness and a lot of light, so a lot of scenes are very like poorly lit. There's a lot of scenes where it's just a completely like black. I would say like obsidian black kind of feel to it, and then there are a lot of scenes where it's like very bright, and it's just straight up like the whole shot is filled with white light. And neither one is good or bad I don't think there's any commentary going on here about race, or anything like that welcome to twenty twenty where you have to clarify everything which isn't a problem that's. It's just a funny observation also is just an opinion. so the. Scenes where Scarlett Johansson is lured a man back to her home. Are Some of the most like poignant scenes in the in the film I would say is I. Guess How described them. And so the way that the Scenes are shot. Is that Scarlett Johansson walks back? Away from her victim. And as victim walks towards her, they both take off their clothes off in the man. Ends up completely new and usually Scarlett Johansson ends up only partially nude. And then the man as he walks forward ends up in this liquid. kind of has like A. I. Don't know it's it's it when you're when the first victim and we see who's submerged by submerged by? It seems Kinda like water, but it doesn't seem like anyone is suffocating in it. So, it's not quite like water. It's kind of like. SLUDGY ON! It's like horror film feeling. but we kind of watched them sink into it now. That is kind of like I think a metaphor for the film in itself. Because the liquid is a perfect reflection. Of both of of everything in the room around it, and only things in the room around our Scala Joe Hanson's character, and whoever her victim is, so you just see a reflection of Scarlett Johansson and a reflection of the person who's walking into the liquid until you don't see the reflection anymore because they're walking into this liquid, and then you only see Scarlett Johansson and her reflection, it's a perfect mirror image show. It's basically like they're walking on Amir. And I think that that's kind of the point of the film is that it's supposed to be a mere that you look into and put. Your own meaning. On. because none of the characters seventy names. Their dialogue often times is like completely incomprehensible like as an American person I. Don't know if it's just that. Scottish accents are really hard to decipher. Or, if it's that like the film intentionally was trying to make it difficult for you to understand what it is that people are saying different junctures in the film. But there were several times when I was watching. This was like what? was that even a sentence or those even words and the beginning of the film you hear Scarlett Johansson Voice like trying to learn words so I wouldn't be surprised if that part of the point of the movie is that like language in itself is some sort of weird thing you impart onto, but I think that the film is really trying to get this idea of Tabula Rasa where like everything ought to be considered a blank slate. And so when you like watching a film, oftentimes the way that you interpret it is based off of an infinite number of associations that you have with different symbols and words and phenomena so. If you read a certain type of literature more frequently. You are more likely to see. That are allusions to and references to that particular type of literature when you are watching movies or reading other literature like religious symbolism is a great example of that if you're. If you're involved in a church, and or just in the study of theology in general, it's much more likely that you're gonna be able to find. Meaningful symbols and things like that from your belief structure within other forms of media, and so you don't really enter into viewing experience of any film with a truly blank slate. And I think that part of the point of this film is that you really ought to do that and that the film is trying to force you into entering. Entering to a space of interpretation that is devoid of other associations, other than self, and that's why when Scarlett Johansson. Leads are victims into this mysterious liquid? The only thing that you see is a reflection of her and a reflection of the victim until the victim is ultimately consumed by the liquid. And and then when we. And the reason I heard sorry I don't know why I'm stuttering so much, so we are supposed to take a similar approach to the film. We just follow it until we're consumed by it and then ultimately. Underneath the surface of the film, there's more meaning so. When you get to the editors, only one scene where we actually get to see under the surface of this liquid and under the surface, there is like a one of her former victims is like so floating in liquid when she brings in a new victim, and so the new guy is underneath the. Underneath the liquid or submerged in liquid, and you hear these like weird clicking and popping His something is like going inside of his body I. Guess would be the best way to describe the phenomena. Which is like? Oddly, sexual, but also not at the same time again. This movie is kind of like a horror movie, and it has like this. It has one jump scare in the entire thing, and it is like terrifying in a really creepy way. But. He reaches out and touches. The. The former victim who is reaching out to him. And when they touch. The the guy who's been in the water or in the liquid longer, his body kind of collapses, I guess is the best way to phrase it, and so to me like. I think that that symbolism for the idea of like reaching out and trying to connect with others in like one you kind of. Connect with another person. You're like emptying. You're losing some aspect of the south. In some regard, and that's a theme that I. Think is recurring throughout the film because when Scarlett Johansson's character decides to get intimate with the gentleman who helps her when she's on the bus towards the end of the film is when we start to see like pretty drastic changes in the makeup of her body. Which? We want, we will be talking about later so overall I. Guess. I'm trying to say about this movie. Is that when you go to watch it? If you go into it, expecting to like get an explanation for anything I think that the point of the movie is to not give you an explanation for anything. It's supposed to kind of like. Take you to a specific place. Make you realize that meaning is a reflection of what is within, and ultimately like a lot of what is within oftentimes feels very empty and Vapid, which is why I think when you know those two gentlemen in who are the two victims reach out to connect to each other. One of them is like his body kind of. Dissipates I think it's supposed to be a reflection of the fact that like. Ultimately, We are empty vessels that are filled with this idea of a self that isn't based in anything concrete. It's based in like. The things that we've kind of added to it, not based in the things that are there intrinsically and whether I. Don't think that the film was trying to say that. That's good or bad. I'm just trying I. think that the film's just kind of trying to say that this is how it is. Which I find to be a very interesting perspective, just solely based on. The fact that. It's unique among films. I haven't ever seen a movie. That's like this. And and there isn't much of a level of suspension of disbelief that's requested by the director or the writer. just because there isn't much plot. Pretty Straightforward and the way that the film goes because it doesn't give an explanation for anything. It doesn't even give motives really We. Aren't really forced to try to believe anything about anything other than like believe something about ourselves i. do think that the film is making some commentary on like the roles of men and Women Society I. Think that it's. I think it was partially I know mostly intentional that they selected a woman to be the primary Predator. If you will, who is preying on men at the beginning of the film, and that role is switched later on on I think that that is kind of commentary on like the idea of going from girlhood to womanhood in some capacity or like childhood to adulthood. Where like or naive to knowledge where you go from one place of not knowing how you prey on others to being abundantly aware of the fact that people are praying on you. And kind of taking advantage of you or want to take advantage of you, and I think that there's some specific commentary on like the way that interacts with female life experience because the main characters female, but I do think that. Part of the film is supposed to be kind of like a revelation of knowledge as you go through the motions of like actualising I. Guess would be the right word. So, In that scene. where? We get to see what happens after Scarlett Johansson lead somebody in the water. Early someone into the liquid. We get this interesting visual of like a black body over the top of Scarlett Johansson Spotty and this black body looks very militias and like sinister. Super Vani it's genuine, generally humanoid, but not specifically, and that's kind of like the first indication that we get to like what could possibly be going on in this movie, so I'm GonNa. Talk more about that right after this next quick commercial break. Tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts now listen close and hear this out. There's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searching. The golden state media concepts podcast network is here nothing less than podcast bliss with endless hours of podcast covered. From, News, sports music fashion, looking entertainment, fantasy, football, and so much more so stop lurking around and go straight out to the golden state media concepts podcast network guaranteed to build that podcast. Whatever it may be, visit us at www dot. Jesus MC PODCAST DOT COM follow us on facebook and twitter and download on itunes. soundcloud and Google play. EXC. States. took. Every body okay so right before the break. We were just kind of talking about I guess generally. What this movie could potentially what could potentially be driving the plot forward since there is? Like little to no explanation of why it is that things are occurring. And I think that Y know that that's part of the point of the film is that? Even in the absence of explanation, we as consumers of a form of media, we as viewers of something. are inclined to apply meaning and motivation. To different aspects of experience. So. I think that that's really. Cool for lack of another word. Question Mark. So. Yeah so Scarlett Johansson character. we see that there is something that's kind of pulling the strings if you will. With that like the city in Black humanoid Zeno. Zam Morph I. Guess would be Amorphous or the things from alien. The film, but I think Z. Just generally refers to alien. So that's the first indication we get that. There's some some reason as to why it is that she's doing what she's doing. Because at at first, we don't really have any reason beyond like. She's just doing this thing. And I think you know I. Know that that's kind of the point. is for us to be trying to draw conclusions so. I had to guess Beyond -plication is that these the bodies of these men are being consumed by different like a separate force. That is providing energy to scholar Hanson's character because it seems like when she's not. Actively bringing. I guess. Energy back in the form of victims that she likes suffers in some particular capacity. She loses like her ability to speak her coherence of about the world around her strength seems to kind of. Diminish I guess would be the best word for it. Whenever. She hasn't like brought someone back to the. House in the recent past so. That is definitely an interesting aspect of the film, and I think that that is kind of like supported with the fact that when she goes missing and stops going back to the house. That has the liquid in it. Those the four men who look exactly the same go out looking for her. And so. I think that one potential the potential plot point, and what makes this kind of a science fiction film? Is that these are like aliens in like a face stealer. Capacity as by like body snatchers type thing where they? Come like replicate ordered. Take energy from. Other humans! The spider theme is Pretty President here, which like should be its own sub-genre of science fiction, considering how frequently spiders are used as a symbol or as a metaphor, I think that it's like pretty blatantly obvious that like the way in which they. Portray the victims in the water and the way that they're consumed is indicative of. The way in which spider captures and consumes its prey. It's also very. The whole movie has this very interesting. Predator prey type dynamic where it seems like if you're not an active, Predator, you are actively prey so Scarlett Johansson's character when she's going around and trawling for victims. Every single person is pray until they reveal themselves to be a difficult thing to catch or to pose a problem. For what is that exactly? Scarlett Johansson is looking for. And When Scarlett Johansson stops looking for victims. She pretty much immediately becomes prey to the will of others, both like physically and mentally so. I found that dynamic to be very interesting and to provide a lot of tension that moves the film forward. And one thing I did notice. There's a particular scene with the gentleman who has the deformity when he gets into the car with Scarlett Johansson, he is the first person to tell her that he doesn't want to go. To not or to pretty much immediately, say like I. Look I want you to just take me where you said you were going to take me and he's the first person who's paying attention. He's also the only person to go into skull Joe Hansen's house and then leave. and. He does have eventually killed by the The mysterious motorcycle rider! Who shows up at his house when he's climbing through the fence. To. Kill him and stuff him in the back of his own trunk in the drive off, and there's a witness, but it doesn't seem to bother the guy from the motorcycle at all who also leaves his motorcycle there which is weird. it doesn't really make sense, but because he's like the first person who isn't actively just being pray he kind of gets like fall into this area of like mercy, who ultimately ends up getting preyed upon by something stronger. And even the individuals who are just like at the beach. Scarlett Johansson's character is they're looking for victims. The husband and the wife are victim to the ocean victim to nature, so they're kind of preyed upon by forces that are beyond their control that don't really have like. A reason to do what they're doing in the same way that like Scarlett Johansson doesn't seem to have a reason to be doing what it is that she is doing throughout the film so. I found those parallels to be pretty interesting. Now when Scarlett Johansson stops being. The Predator and she kind of becomes the prey. She kind of like starts to depart from the what she's been doing throughout the film. We start to see that she doesn't have anything any idea about what's going on in the world around her something about her is slipping, her understanding is slipping because at the beginning of the film. We noticed that she kind of goes everywhere confidently. There's several scenes specifically where she walks downstairs and this very like quick confident way and then towards the end of the film we get the scene where she's standing in a stairway, and she's terrified of walking down the stairs and so the guy. Who helped her? On, the bus says like Hey. You're scared, but like there's no need for you to be scared as walk with me, and then we see the pretty like this role reversal between the way that scarlet Hanson captured her victims and the way that this guy treats her. She follows him down the stairwell, holding his hand, and like they keep their clothes on the whole time, but when they get back to his place, things get a little, hot and heavy. I guess would be the best way to describe it. and. It seems like Scarlett Johansson's character is like into it, so it doesn't feel like that same. LIKE PREDATORY RELATIONSHIP THAT SCARLETT! Johansson had with her victims because she knew what was happening the entire time she knew those men would end up in this liquid and be consumed, whereas like when Scarlett Johansson goes to get into bed with this man It seems like a legitimate desire on both parts. And so as they're getting intimate, there's this weird realization of Scarlett Johansson and of the gentleman that like something's not working the way it's supposed to be working. which causes them both to stop and him to be like? Hey, are you okay? and she takes a lamp and looks down, and then that's the next scene is where she's in the woods And, it's just kind of walking around so. I think that. It's really difficult to necessarily like draw specific conclusions about like the symbolism in that particular scene, because a lot of the film deals with this like. I guess subliminal sexual energy that. Is like simultaneously terrifying, and like also alluring so I think that like the director is kind of trying to capture what it's like. To be in that like head space of I guess sexual interaction between. Like to human beings. where it feels like is this kind of like intrinsic dynamic of like Intrinsic Power Dynamic of someone who knows exactly what it is. That's GONNA. Come out of this particular situation in another individual who is like? Just kind of like willfully participating or is like naming maybe even not participating in some capacities, because a lot of the men who are lured back to scarlet your Hanson's home. Home in quotes. Don't really know what's happening with Scarlett Johansson does so. It's I would say that it's hard to. Imply that, they that they're not being like their victims. Of course, so I think that a lot of the films metaphor is coming from a place of like. This is what it's it's. It's kind of like being a victim to something. Is this act of powerlessness that seems not an act. It is an impart an imparting of the role of powerlessness onto another individual by one individual who possesses knowledge of certain outcome so. I don't really know exactly. If that's the point of these interactions I think again like I'm saying like I said at the beginning that one of the major reasons to watch. This film is because it does such a good job with. Obvious Skating the point of the film. And making it in like incredibly. Subversive so that you can't really tell like why things are happening and when they're going to happen or what's going to happen next, and you're always like kind of left wanting from more of an explanation than what it is that you get, which is like good of course in the sense of filmmaking, but it's very frustrating as a viewer. I found myself several times throughout this film thinking like okay. What am I going to find out why? Scarlett Johansson is like taking these men back to her home to be consumed and you just don't find out, and then when Scarlett Johansson seems to have like a change of heart. It doesn't really seem obvious as to why it seems like. Maybe. There's a there's A. Divide between the shadow of or the reflection of what is that sculpture Hanson is, and what like she kind of actually wants to be because the character that the last victim that she takes says, are we dreaming? And she says yes. We're dreaming and at that point it seems like she kind of has a change of heart, and so I think that like a major portion of this film is trying to get at like the idea of like the Union shadow sell for the young en Mir South because reflections and like is are very present symbols in this film. They are frequently used as well as fears and things like that are frequently used, and till I kind of signify like a change in like the. The conditions of a particular individuals. Interaction with the world so and I you know of course like the men being. Put into this like or submerge into this liquid and then suspended in. It is kind of like an interesting symbolism for like. I. Don't WanNa say rebirth, but reverse birth in some capacity, which is also like a weird phenomena. That seems to be pretty present in a lot of films. I can't tell you how many times I've watched a movie and just thought to myself like there's that reverse birth trope again. I think that that trope in itself is kind of like playing on this idea of like going back to Childhood in order to reconcile certain things from your past because that's something that we all do just because. I don't know we have an evolutionary proclivity to try and. Fix things from our pastor reconcile situations that we experienced previously not entirely sure, so. I'm GonNa talk about the last seen moving and how it impacts over your overall understanding of the film in its entirety. 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And I wanted to give myself a good amount of time to talk about the ending of the film, because it really changes the way that you interact with the entire film, but I didn't want to give it away at the beginning because it just didn't feel like. I. Don't know when you watch the movie. I wanted to podcast can reflect that where it's like you are in ignorance until the end, and there's kind of like a little bit of an explanation, regardless I'm so at the end of the film. I had mentioned that Scarlett Johansson characters salted while in the process of being salted the gentleman who gentlemen that's that while I was way too generous with term the. assaulter. Gosh major slip of the tongue there. The person assaulting her. Realizes that something is wrong with her body and so he. Starts to like, you know. He backs officers to run away. Of course, Scarlett Johansson characters finding the entire time, which also is probably had a good deterrent, but Scarlett Johansson starts to walk away and we see that like. There is just. Like. I keep using the word black, but it's just. It's not like like a person black. It's like the color black, so it is like Obsidian is the best way to describe it, so there's like an obsidian. Patch underneath her skin on her tailbone. and. It looks kind of like ragged. Like. like cloth in a weird way, and so he runs off and we watch Scarlett Johansson. Follow the ground and then like. I guess. Zip Her skin in some capacity. And then reveal A. obsidian black humanoid creature thing that definitely looks like it looks like a statue. She was the best way to describe it like a moving statue. And It peels off all of Scarlett Johansson and holds the face in her hand, and the face is the only thing that still has substance to it. It looks like there's still a skull there because it looks at her and blinks and then. It the the black humanoid thing is immolated it's lit on fire by the person who was assaulting Scarlett Johansson character. and. This is where like the science fiction, thing, actually kind of becomes applicable to this film because like. That's about the first time that it really makes sense outside of like some sort of weird mystic type thing. Is the first time that we really get a sense of like. There's something profoundly alien about Scarlett Johansson's character and something other worldly. That's happening with the way that she was interacting with the world, and it's not like because the beginning of it you're. In this confusing place of like well, what's real? What is a metaphor like it kind of seems as if the the victims going into this liquid and vanishing I is like a metaphor like Oh. This is just a metaphor for them dying, because the very first time that we get a victim, they just there in the van, and then suddenly they're not. And there's like kind of sinister music to it. Second Time we get a victim. We get to see them. Go back to the house. Third Time we get a victim, we go back to the house when we see them actually under the water and the fourth time get victim. That victim is least so. There's kind of like an interesting progression of knowledge here, but it like the first two in even the third one in my opinion. They seem like it could be saying. This is the metaphorical way in which these people are killed. So Scarlett Johansson's character is a serial killer, and she's murdering people, and this is the metaphor for how they die. It isn't until the third victim that you kind of realize like Oh, this is actually happening. This is like this weird phenomenon. It's actually happening, so there's this odd sense of alienness to Scarlett Johansson character, because now there's something concrete about her and then. After the, The first guy or the after the fourth victim is released like we suddenly lose all of that concreteness that we had about Scarlett Johansson. Character like she just becomes completely incoherent and unable to function in the world. And so to me, what that says is that like? You know there is some sort of like fuel or energy or knowledge or something that is being gathered from these victims. That is aiding in Scarlett Johansson's function in the world. which is I I, don't know important question mark, not totally sure, but regardless So we get all of that, and then we get to the end of the film and we get this scene where we finally get to see like what is happening underneath, Scarlett Johansson's exterior. and. This is where I think we really get like that hard core like Jungian shadow self idea of like. The thing we present to the world is not what it seems, and when we aren't actively in control of the presentation than it kind of slips away, and we reveal the inner self, and often that inner self feels either dark or undesirable or devoid of meaningfulness, because there's a lot of like. I guess void or nothing nothingness imagery. And this particular film that I found to be really interesting because. The. The film on one hand wants to force you as the viewer to impart manning into the story by not giving you any reason why the story would be occurring. But on the same hand I think that the film wants to try to convince you that there is no reason the story be occurring regardless of whether or not you apply meaning to it just simply is a thing. It just simply is a film at is story whatever meaning is? There is ultimately futile. Which is why I think they choose the imagery that they choose to depict the scenes with the victims to pick the scenes with Scarlett, Johansson as her character is kind of like goes from being Scarlett Johansson to this kind of generically faced obsidian humanoid thing. and. that. Idea of nihilism. And nothing, this is also present in the way that a lot of the world interacts with the rest of like things around it because. The beginning of the film starts out completely black screen. No sound no nothing in sound is like a really big deal. In this film there are frequent scenes with absolutely no sound. And that is. Part of what makes the movie so terrifying is like the lack of dialogue, the lack of sound lack of just like generic noise is. Really. Difficult to deal with Really kind of is disconcerting I guess would be the best word for it makes. You feel very uncomfortable and I would say. That's like that's obviously intentional in my opinion, so. the. The lack of noise, the the black screen, and the presence of just like one little white Dot of light I think that the idea of like. On. Birth and creation are very present in this film, and the idea of creation is portrayed in a way that it's terrifying and not in a way that it's beautiful. It kind of takes a lot of like your standard symbolism, and then flips it on its head in a way to where like when you go to interpret it, it's hard to look at like the beginning of the film as being the creation of something beautiful almost seems kind of like Scarlett Johansson. Character represents in some capacity like the introduction of knowledge because when it's I brought into the world Once I when I brought into the world under our knowledge as viewers, we can tell that it's sinister like we die very quickly established that like. Scala Joe. Anson's not actually lost. She's trying to get people to get in her car with her. And these guys are just generally ignorant, so. The alien thing in this film is not only Scarlett Johansson as an alien, but like Scarlett Johansson as an with knowledge and when she kind of like. That knowledge in some capacity. She starts to function in the same way that everybody else does and so. It almost seems as if like. Enlightenment is being portrayed as this evil thing in some capacity, because when Scarlett Johansson has enlightenment in the beginning of the film. She prays on others when she chooses to relinquish that enlightenment for for in favor of. Like passivity, then she becomes the prey of others who are more active and when she loses knowledge of. Like knowledge or purpose of like the predatory aspects of what she was doing previously then. Her facade falls away to where we see what is truly underneath which ends up being. Like kind of nothing it's it's faceless nameless. It's voiceless. It screened when it burns. It just walks out into a middle of a field and like dies, and the film ends with the camera, just like staring straight up into like a snowstorm. And eventually the snow starts to look like Ash. which to me kind of speaks to that similar idea like cycles and. Rebirth, an UN birth, where you know, I get the simple way to phrases like what goes up must come down, but the snow that like into ash eventually, and then falls to the earth again like it. Just kind of reflects the inevitability of of cycles of. Of loss of. Change you now in the state of the change in the state of being of Scarlett Johansson, character changing the way that it looks changing the way that enacted the world. All those things are portrayed as inevitable in the same way that like when you watch the deaths of those people who drown in the ocean. It's just kind of like inevitable. There was really no avoiding it like the Scarlett Johansson season swimming in the ocean, and like knows that she can't save them because you know. Know the husband insists on saving the wife in the white insists on saving the dog and all this time, because they're just insisted on like saving something that was ignorant of the way that it was in the first place that now it is now they'll die and stuff for two, and that's kind of like a reflection of the idea of the introduction of sin from the Bible as well while I'm going to join eve in the way that like she is now as knowledge because. I can't not so now I too will suffer the consequences of that particular action so it. I think that there are a lot of there's a lot of opportunity for interpretation in this film. The cinematography, the sound track are both. The acting of course is really great. Scarlett Johansson is really good. This is circa two thousand thirteen, so I think that's right around the time when she started hit it big, so I wouldn't be surprised if she filmed this as kind of like an. Like Art House projects to try to score some more serious roles. She does a really really good job I cannot sing. Her praises enough in this film She absolutely kills it. And then like I said the soundtrack is also amazing. It fits the film perfectly. There's even like it's not like dancy, but it feels choreographed in some capacity. I think it's really beautiful. There's just a lot of symbolism everywhere. They do really good job of portraying this idea of like the Tabula Rosa of like I, said You know of birth rebirth on birth. Things like that so I would definitely recommend this movie again. It is rated R for good reason, so maybe don't watch when the kid around wouldn't recommended as date movie. Unless that's what you think, your data's into like I said. It's like a weird art house film much better than highlife. Not As watchable as Anything by your. Go slant the most also all those films are net Netflix's has like exclusive distribution for eight twenty four, so. Generally. They're going to have a lot of good movies on there at least for now and probably the foreseeable future. So that's a lot for you guys today. Super appreciate you joining me for me to talk about this movie. It's it's really interesting. I highly recommend that. You give it to watch. And then make sure that you all are wearing masks when you go out in public, and it's not fun, and it is kind of A. In my opinion violation of certain aspects of legislature, but it's important for us to remember that every now and then we gotta make sacrifices for certain things for the benefit of everybody. A A lot of other countries that experienced success with the virus just wore masks, and they didn't have to change much else at all, so I think if we just put our masks on for now. We'll see a lot of benefits from that so. And I always tell you know. Make sure you're following your local ordinances to the best of what you feel. You're comfortable with Just WanNa. Encourage everybody to be safe and to stay healthy as much as possible and whatever your opinion is on the subject matter is. Irrelevant to the generally just wish the best for everybody who listens to the podcast so I hope y'all are having a good time. Stay busy out there. Keep yourself active. Take Care Yourself and we will be back on Sunday to talk about Ip. Thanks everybody. You've been listening to the golden state media concepts sci-fi podcast part of the Golden, state concepts podcast network. You can find this show and others like it at www dot Jesus. 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Bradley Whitford Finds 'Perfect Harmony'

The Frame

16:30 min | 1 year ago

Bradley Whitford Finds 'Perfect Harmony'

"PODCASTING supported by Fox searchlight presenting Joe Joe Rabbit an antiwar satire directed by tyco YTD starring Scarlett Johansson Sam Rockwell Thomas in me Henze rebel Wilson Stephen Merchant Alfie Allen now playing in select feeders from the Mon Broadcast Center Auden advocate that yes but you do I suspect can make an argument about how this show is not a polar opposite to handmaid's tale and transparent and I am downing sleeping pills with bourbon so it was tricky to find how exactly to in different people together and sort of transcended it in a non preachy way with humor kind of snooty eastern coastal dude who ended up at the end of his life kind of stock in Kentucky where she is from any ACIS of it and I was looking for something to do in these insane polarized times that put radically intentional I was sort of looking to do a comedy I've been doing a lot of dark stuff I wanted to Whitford Wickford is probably best known for starring in the West Wing and doing some bad things in a basement in the film get out more recently he was in transparent and it up findings real joy and nourishment working in this little church that he thought he didn't want to have anything to do with and that was sort of the even though they're very different beasts in terms of what they are trying to say that you're working in shows that you think have a meaning beyond the show itself and how would you define it Whitney Houston we have problem your confidence exceeds your talent snake Tattoo George Frederick handled in know anyone on set and I have the New York Times and the arts and Leisure section a big headline he just won the Oscar for unforgiven get out of Gilead for a time I talked with Brad Whitford before a live audience said KPCC's recent open house in perfect harmony Whitford plays a character it is token drama the handmaid's tale now he starring in abroad NBC Sitcom called perfect harmony and if it sounds like a big departure that was her who's very close to the show's creator Leslie Wake Webster Leslie had this story about her grandfather at the end of his life he was very pretentious her last day she was sick so that it was a very tricky thing because we're opening a Sitcom on the day of my wife's funeral for this show well I always hesitate to say I always remember in nineteen ninety four I did a Clint Eastwood movie a perfect world and I'm sitting and this has this added element of music off passes I pass out yeah it was actually a tricky thing with the show because it opens I have gone to Kentucky to be with my wife in Korea Open vows vows things that pat say Jack makes you pay your given its Clint Eastwood's vision of America and I go over to him and I said did you see this and he goes my vision of you take the best job you can I don't I don't have a like a a civic vegetable agenda which guides my showbiz choices but I've been very lucky to be Erica he's like about ten years ago hours working with a monkey now they think I'm Ghandi is I sir this is unacceptable piano girl a up to each note which ruins listening experience named Hal. It's not has a alien you're on around and I think it's called Josh Lyman yells at the president so let's listen to avoid you need to listen to me you have to listen to me I can't help you unless you listen Nisa shows that tend to have some sort of cultural impact I'm GonNa ask about our show that you're probably best known for and that is West Wing and look what a civilizing effect political discussion this clip that is easily I'm going to ask you about working with Aaron Sorkin because you had a long relationship with him I think it started with few minutes right it did young actors will always portent film called revenge of the Nerds two Colon nerds in Paradise Finish and on that movie say like how do you get on a show like like the West and the answer for me is you take a part in a movie that you don't want to do really breath and that's how I got the West was playing a jerk in an idiotic moving but what about his writing and talkie 'cause we were shooting in Florida I became friends with him tim replace Tom Holtz and a few good men Tim said to Erin I think this guy can do your stuff buzzfeed played poindexter with the glasses and the violin and Tim and I were kind of theater rats and we would fly up to the one act festival in I mean you can't send Christmas cards to everyone you can't do it forget the PR let's get the IMF loans like we said we were going to listen to what I have to say about Tidiane please listen to me here's a rhythm and the great thing about his writing is thank God it's it's weirdly easy to memorize because all the rules I mean it was absolutely astonishing he wrote twenty two episodes of a one hour for four eight years that's the equivalent of eleven feature films a year I got a chance after he left to right a couple and I thought my spot instead of could not you gotta go back and get it get it right he's an he's an amazing writer who breaks there's a flow to it and all the actors in that show ninety eight percent of them Allison Janney what yeah was interested in the arts podcasting supported by Fox searchlight presenting Joe Joe Rabbit an anti-war that means for an actor outside of what it did for your career about the challenges that earned Sorkin gets an act that kind of writing which is I mean that was there's a verbal obligation if you're doing a speech like that and there's all this political Cheurfa you're really upset about something and you say could you have this relentless verbal obligation there is a rhythm Aaron sits the monitor going on like he when was gonNA fall out of my back I can't believe that he did it and it'll never happen again nobody in that position will submit the welcome back to this pledge drive addition of the frame I'm John Horn and my guest today is the emmy winning actor Brad Whitford we spoke in front of a live audience at kp it's don't always match up with how much effort goes into the work I think you should get an Oscar for making so to doing twenty two a year when we come back Brad Whitford explains why parental encouragement might not be the best thing for a kid pet of what he asked his actress to do yes it is intense and some really great actors it's just not what they can do I've seen really great because people know you you're in bed with them it's very weird but the one thing I con he sees recent Open House Whitford has had some very big successes in his career acting in film and TV and in theater but he says the rewards and accolades to work and it's very it's a totally different thing doing handmaid's tale then you know then a pratfall I felt frustrated early on I was playing just like a jerk and these movies that that were frustrating but it really satire directed by TYCO ITT and starring Scarlett Johansson Sam Rockwell Thomasson Mackenzie rebel Wilson Stephen Merchant Alfie Allen now playing in select feeders thank God Lin Manuel Miranda

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The Traffic Secret I'm Using Right Now...

Marketing Secrets

08:29 min | 10 months ago

The Traffic Secret I'm Using Right Now...

"What's up everybody this Russell Brunson? Welcome back to the Marking Secrets. Show excited to be here with you. Guys today and excited to share with you is what is happening here in quarantine harm. What's in the Book and how I'm actually practicing what I preach so the big question. Is this how we're entrepreneurs like us? He didn't cheat and take on venture capital for spending money for own pockets marketing away. Let us get our products and our services and the things that you believe in out to the world and yet still remain profitable. That is the question in this. Podcast give you the answer. My Name's Russell Brunson and welcome. The marketing secrets are everybody. So if you have been on anybody's channel for the last three weeks I'm in the middle of the traffic secrets. Book launch which has been so much funded. If you don't have your copy of the book yet go to Traffic Secrets. Dot Com We're GONNA pay for the book cover shipping handling and It is a huge three hundred plus page down book That is My wife work. And it's here and it's available and ready for your now. We actually ship it on May fifth but you can get the book and you can Order the book right now is up so we also huge box set. You can order as an upsell. Which gives you the brand new updated. Harbach dotcom secrets. The brand new updated. Harvard expert secrets the new traffic secrets as well as the unlock. The secrets workbook which is only available. Right here right now. Anyway Japan today because I've been doing interviews like anywhere from six to eight or nine a day every single day. Talking about trump book has people who ask me like Russell dragging traffic then Why are you doing these podcasts interviews and why are people are so? I want to take a break from Omega views to tell you why I'm doing this. Why because I'm literally practicing what I preach as read the book you'll find out. There are more than just one way drive traffic. We don't destroy facebook ads. there's a lot of things to do and In the book I talk about basically. There are three types of traffic. The first half of traffic is traffic that you control case. That's like for example. A facebook address Mark Zuckerberg owns facebook. Owns all the traffic on facebook. We can go to and say look. I'm going to pay you money and I want you to. I want to control where some of the traffic's going. I want you to send to my landing patriots. My Web page wherever we'RE SENDING AND RIGHT. So percentage of of Of are going to be going directly to to where we're pushing right so that's number one. Traffic Control. Second type of traffic is traffic. Do we earn so. This is where we're going out doing podcast interviews during facebook live doing. We're not paying for those ads. But we're earning our way in front of an audience. And then the goal both types of traffic is to convert it into traffic you own which is your own email list. So that's outside the context of this podcast. I wanted to understand that a lot of people think traffic is just controlling ads and say no. That's just one piece of it. The other ways ads that you earns you're working your way in and I've shared a couple times with some of the different podcast. If you think about this thing about Hollywood does is Hollywood. Does all the time right. So for example right now. Now we're in quarantine locked down with my kids we've been doing is we've been watching all the marvel movies so we started in chronological order. So we started with Captain America Captain Marvel and then Ironman. And we're going through right now. Last night we swatch thor the dark dark world tomorrow tonight. We're watching Guardians of the Galaxy and. They were going through his room really fun. And when I was cited for is hopefully Corinthian ends about may ish because in May the next marvel movie is coming out with. I'm so excited for for so many reasons. One is because I haven't seen a good movie longtime number two. It's it's black widow. Come on now Scarlett Johansson. Who Doesn't Love Scarlett Johansson? And so. We're really excited for that. But if you start watching how Hollywood promotes astray how marvel- dozen couple things will happen number. One is going to buy either way. And they're going to go and control traffic right so that means they're going to go on TV so NBC CBS too. You know those channels on TV. They own traffic and marvel go and they will buy ads on those things that are controlling the traffic in the movies. Coming out next week and go and watch it. They'll be in front of other movies. They're going to buy the on the previous before moves in that spot so buying their way into distribution channel people already. The movie theaters already watching the previews and they buy spot to be one of the previews right so buying their way into control traffic but then about a week before the big old movie comes out. Scarlett Johansson is going to go out there and she's going to go and she'll hit the circuits right. She will be on on today's show the tonight show. Good Morning America. The Jimmy Fallon show of the late night. Show the art shows all the shows and the radio and the podcast and she will spend like two weeks of her life out there on the road working her way in to all the things she's not paying to be on tonight show right she gets. She goes on there and she works away and she goes and she talks. She entertains people's shows a clip for the movie. And she tells me we'll opening night since we can go watch support and if they do right that always things together. We'll create a huge launch effect. Which will get billions and billions in the millions of people. Go to movie theater. Make Billion Dollars in sales in the movie will live on for a long time k hog doing and then what has for us. It's like I'm GONNA buy facebook ads only way that we know how to drive. Traffic are most people who are driving traffic in the last five or six years become so lazy they rely on one thing which is one of the big reasons why the traffic secrets book is helping people that I understand. How do you travel a lot of sources? Enter diversify to think differently about traffic and so anyway I literally practically pre-trade I'm doing Scarlett. Johansson was doing what her move when the movie's coming out right. I'm going out there and I am doing this. I'm out there on the PODCAST. So for all of you guys you agree not be able to get on the today show and tonight's Jones CNN all those kind of things but there is that equivalent in every market every market has a media circuit right. There's podcasts blogs there are youtube channels that are like all. These things are already there. So your job. Is that how I worked my way? And how can I do that? Avenue having literally eight hours a day every day flash. Three weeks doing this from selling tens of thousands of copies of the book. You're eating this one and this one and this one and this one and I'm telling my story and I'm quoting the book coming out having a free copy and I'm just doing the whole circuit so like I said this is how the whole game is played like I'm doing it. Hopefully you're doing but I get so many times people are just like I don't have. I can't buy face because they can't afford. They can't all the different reasons why people can't do something and I just wanted to like argue for you. You can create something amazing and then go and do it and so. There's my challenge for today anyway. I hope that makes sense. You guys you guys like. 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Was Blake Shelton and Gwen Stefanis engagement timed to help The Voice ratings? Scarlett Johansson and Colin Jost send out hand-written save the date, The Clooneys didnt know Harry & Meghan when they attended their wedding!

Naughty But Nice with Rob Shuter

21:13 min | 3 months ago

Was Blake Shelton and Gwen Stefanis engagement timed to help The Voice ratings? Scarlett Johansson and Colin Jost send out hand-written save the date, The Clooneys didnt know Harry & Meghan when they attended their wedding!

"What's super nutritious super delicious, and a little nutty American becomes the original supernet packed with all the good for you nutrition you need and the flavor that keeps the family coming back for. Recipes, and more visit American Pecan, Dot Com. Huge. Welcome to the. Show it is Wednesday which means only one thing on Wednesday. We're lucky enough to talk meacham from OK magazine, Dot, com, Donnie, are you there? Hello had a little more emphasis on the naughty today. Not. Let. Me Just say Janis Very. Dot, is, in L. A. and I'm in New York, but we have to get to the gossip Donnie, the sandwich to give what can we do? Do you know what time it is? It is tea time. This story is wild. I'm so happy a- Blake Shelton and Gwen Stafani finally engaged five years after they started dating the voice coaches have made it official. So the couple announced it on social media. Of course, they did they put a photograph of them up together. It looks like it's taken in his house in his ranch in Oklahoma. She's pretty Giddy in the picture flaunting the massive diamond ring. The caption she wrote is yes please. What he wrote is thank you Gwen Stafani for saving my twenty twenty and the rest of my life more I. Love You. So these two Matt's in two thousand, fourteen on the set of the voice they both had just broken up with their significant other they got together is expected. They said it was very, very different. However, they seem to have made this work I don. I love this couple. So much of this really makes me excited, but I will say. I hate to fuel the whole Blake. Shelton Miranda Lambert stuff. But if you did notice just last week, she debuted a new music video with her shirtless has lou who's the NYPD officer. She did this big thing about how it was the first time. She's ever included a love interest in one of her videos and then all of a sudden blake and greater now engaged I conspiracy maybe yes I think that is a conspiracy I actually a little. Bit of reporting though this. So when I'm told, we did the story a couple of weeks ago here on the podcast that they were getting pressure. The pressure is probably the wrong word they were being encouraged by producers of the voice to actually get engaged live on the show will be huge ratings I. Think we all thought it would be a really good idea. Now, it is interesting that of all the days of the week there were seven. Ledesma we there are seven days of the week they decided to get engaged matures day, which happens to be the day of the voice also to the show that you watch last night on Tuesday that was prerecorded. So the next few weeks. So all prerecorded, they're not going to have a live show until the end of November, put. This is our poll question of the day. It's a little bit cheeky. Do you think that Gwen? I'm Blake finally Got Engaged to actually coincide and help the ratings of the voice. Now, I'm not saying that's the reason the only reason they did that the obviously in love this is not a press stunt however, if we're going to get engaged and we're in love and that's exactly what they are why not did it in help showers be silly not to am I crazy. What do you think go vote on our twitter page at naughty is Robert Facebook page because I make sure to check back tomorrow to hear your results, Donny, what are you working on? So Scarlett Johansson in college and Jost from SNL mayor getting married and they sent out save the dates and usually that would just be running the bill story. But this is how adorable they are. The actually hand wrote every save the day themselves it was actually funny about it's so there multimillionaires he's on SNL. She's made a ton of movies and they wrote at the bottom that they were trying to save money for the wedding. Much just makes me laugh call is obviously a comedian but Scarlett she's known for being a little serious. So I think this shows the different side of her that maybe she's in on the joke as well. Net that makes her even more I'm told that she loves comedy I'm told that she's a huge fan of SNL even before she met calling in fact I. Love Hamady is really what helped seal the deal between the two of them. So instead of having a fancy, very expensive graphic designer and printer, they did it. Was I think this is just great. Sources are telling me to this is a little bit of an insight into what this wedding is going to be. It's her third marriage, the pandemics going on. So it's GonNa be kind of like a casual, very low key affair and because they handwriting these themselves, there's no way scarlet rose two hundred invite. So I'm predicting to it will be a very, very small intimate wedding. He said that he wants his partner on. SNL Michael Shea. To. Actually interrupt the wedding and play in a make some jokes. So I think is going to be a really really fun night these to have a lot a lot of money. I think they're adorable. I think he's just delicious. He comes from Staten Island and I know people who know him and his family and they said you all was that good looking guy but also to he's a really nice guy this makes me happy this next story is Wild Don. So the reports, new reports that the clean is George in Malta didn't actually know Prince Harry and Meghan. Markle, when they went to their wedding, what what's wild isn't it? So six hundred people were invited to the wedding it took paced place who can forget that's George's chapel in Windsor Castle in May of Twenty eight he and lands right however, these two didn't really know the royal couple at all, which is surprising because they got the best seats in the house they were right up front right in the prime pew next. Lady Carolyn Warren and opposite Princess, Margaret Son viscount Linzie. But the couples told other guests that had no idea really who they were this according to report a Rachel Johnson also to spotted the wedding was Oprah James Corden and David and Victoria Beckham adding insult to injury. There was an exclusive after party at Frog Morehouse for only about two hundred, six, hundred people at the church. Well, the Clooney's were invited to that and they dance the night away with Meghan and Kate Middleton. This is so strange donny, what do you think? It. I almost can't even talk because it just baffles. My mic I want to know is who makes the invite list it was just like. What George Clooney? He's a big actor. Let's just invite him and see what he says. He said no I just discussions are. So Meghan everybody uses Megan of being very Hollywood. This is Mary. Hollywood thing to do off this actually sort of confirms all the things that we think about her that we don't really like like I wanted to where she frenzy though prowler did she just want Oprah at her wedding Victoria Beckham unleashes British will ever more Clooney's British to it sounds random and then to get the clean is a great seat. So it felt like more of a stage productions that they would be on camera is also strange but also to what's strange is, why would the Clooney's say? Yes, act. I'm so I shouldn't say this. It's so naughty but sometimes when friends invite me to their weddings, friends, people actually network I'm not that excited. And particularly, destination have you ever had a friend to a destination address. It's really. I don't WanNa go I don't WanNa. Find a hotel. I just can't one hundred thousand hotels in New York City we've got a Schlep all the way to Bora Bora. It's going to get that I was upset. Oh, it to gets to be maybe would be bad. Let's move go to work. You know what else he's got. Well, Cardi B. She's actually slamming trolls on social media. So Cardi has an erm birkin bag which reigns get this eleven thousand to four hundred, thousand dollars. Well, people were saying on social media that. Armez and Birkin bags were losing their value because basically people like Cardi. And women of color were flaunting them online encarta like clapback 'cause she was not having it and she was like, why are you always asking female rappers about this and I agree with her people aren't going to Jennifer Aniston being like, what are you doing with that hundred thousand dollar bag is onto something she'll zip points now to that when she needs Balenciaga a fabulous designer in one or two songs, sales actually spike of course I. think it's really a terrible racist thing to be doing also to did that whenever she has a design them bag or something fancy people always think that it's a knockoff that it's not real answer to a did like that she said this to other women out there you don't need designer labels. To See yourself as worthy, she happens to have a lot of money and he's enjoying this but she said she felt just as good with a with with a cheap bag. It's -rageous. Really I when I was working with Jessica Simpson Jessica had an earned there's bag and it must have been worth I don't think it was a four, hundred, thousand I hope it wasn't but I remember when we'd go to restaurants that's a table for three says. Her bag had its own. What are you? I don't think I'd be comfortable walking around walking. That was worth ten thousand dollars I I gosh I get a little nervous when I have more than one hundred bucks in my wallet I can. I get a little loopy after a couple of VODKA SODAS I. Leave it in the burn. Burn Guber. Don't do this story is wild play Klaly from the Bachelorette is blaming producers. We talked about this last week on our show, and now it's still going gone. So Clare hopped on twitter after fan wrote that was awful. It was awful that the guys had to take their clothes off and if the bachelor had asked the women to take their clothes off, all hell would have broken loose. Well, Clare responded with a photograph of wine. Pablo. With two naked women on his season and other person pointed at this seems to be a trick of production to get people naked and Clare. Liked that too. She's probably right here she's. The Star of the show, but the reason produces exists the reason they have producers, honor show and a paid. A lot of money is to produce or on the radio show that I produce with Derek and Romaine who we we would. We would have naked people on the radio because even though you can't see it because that is a ploy for everyone people like nudity. It's you could say what you want about it. The people do I watch this season because I'm obsessed with it and I love clairol but I'm not GonNa lie I watch and I go. Okay. That's a little ridiculous because it's ABC you can't see anything. Yes. We're not seeing you know flopping things hanging around I think he's actually sexier when you don't see the bits and bobs because it leaves everything to the imagination if you want to close your ears now just for literally ten seconds, we've got a few spoilers too. So Reality Steve who always gets everything right is reporting that the transition from Clare to Tisha, Benz in episode four, which is going to. Be November fifth also to Joe Joe Fletcher comes back host the show for a couple of episodes because Chris Harrison left the house and didn't realize he had to go back into quarantine before they let him back into the show. So lots and lots of changes on this season of the Bachelorette. That's our poll question that we've got the results for and we will give you those resolves right after this. Why did you sleep? Number three, sixty smart bet your answer to better health and wellness. It's proven quality sleep anymore questions yes. 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She's going mad on twitter. You know she has a non disclosure confidentiality contracts listening girl. Like an tweet is a violation of that contract. Be careful there very bossy over there at that show, let's have a look at the results were a whopping sixty, eight percent of you think she was removed from the showed or I absolutely think she was removed as well too. I think they saw the writing on the wall with her and Dale but also if you look at her actions, the fact that she's being so willy nilly with like tweeting and stuff I think that goes to show she was removed to. Write. It is fascinating. Isn't it? Because I'm told we talked about this a little bit yesterday I'm told the pretty much every season of the show where the bachelor or the Bachelorette they know at the top two within the first ten minutes. If you go on a date review to a crowded bar, you know pretty quickly who you like and yes, there's people that we have leftover in the end up not liking men but we think now heart but you sort of have a good idea about it the differences with this. Is that it wasn't working, it doesn't matter. Don't think for one second. They did this for Clare and Dale the Bachelor and the Bachelorette is a money making machine they want us to forget and think it's all about love and romance no no no, it's about ratings. TV is ratings machine if you right well then you get to stay and if you don't rate well, they get rid of you it's nothing about the quality or lovell feelings. So I think they figured out quite quickly that Clare wasn't really working out so they had to. Get her out of the House and replace it with somebody else which they did pretty quickly. So I'm with the majority here I agree with that sixty eight percent of you don't forget to vote on today's poll you think Oh to at twitter page at Newton is wrong number or facebook page naughty gossip to leave a comment and be sure to check back tomorrow. What do you think about Blake and GWYNN's timing of their engagement? Is it suspicious coincidence on your think account wait to hear and now time for and nicest style of the day. Aw What have you done? So the election is next Tuesday I've have the data my hypocrites November third is coming up very soon, and the nicest of the day is Lena Gomez because she actually admitted that this was the first time that she'd ever voted and just what she said was because honestly, I'm not ashamed to say this she goes but well, maybe I kind of am this was my first time and true for a lot of people I was just reading actually that Shaquille O'Neal who he's got to be in his late forties early fifties just as his first time voting as well. MOM was very upset with the story was kind of fun. Actually I will admit this on my first time voting was last time around on when I voted for Hillary just because I was very excited to vote. Years ago was the first time and then you definitely did it. Everybody has a first time I must to the first time I could legally vote in America was four years ago, Hillary Donald Trump, and I was so excited that day I definitely got a real sort of thrill of civic pride waiting in line I got my little sticker I didn't take off my coat for a week or so proud about it. I voted this time by absentee with the virus. But. It didn't feel quite as thrilling but I've got to say still sitting in my living room filling out that form felt just great good for you Selena. Let's do. naughtiest of the day. Show. Shame. So Kim Kardashian it looks like she broke California's nonessential travel ban. So for months, California has been under a non essential travel ban with the state advising citizens to avoid travel unless it's urgent or for Business Kim decided that maybe urgent business that she threw herself a fortieth birthday party into. She got a bunch of private planes in a private villa and despite the soaring covy numbers across the country this not search small party took place. We saw lots of pictures of her family members none of them are wearing masks in these pictures. Interesting Kanye? West doesn't look like he was there but sources tell me he did turn up. He turned up a couple of days late. This is annoying. This this really makes people angry with celebrities because they're on twitter social media telling everybody what to do, and then he feels like a different blue for them think donny yes. Remember last week when you asked me. If I had changed my mind on Cam because David Letterman had changed his mind on her. I said, no Kim is exactly who I think she is I just want you to read the story agree with. Why this is exactly why you've got a memory like an elephant. Donnie I knew it got up your nose last week. When I said Kim was a different person misjudged her maybe I haven't. Rightsholder log kills me say okay. Let's have a moment of rob you get a reputation. twenty minutes trying to make a gig small silly celebrity gossip prefer a minute or a moment. We're little bit more serious. So you cannot nobody can make enough effort to remind themselves that they are kind they're smart and they are important. That's right. You need to make the effort every day to remind yourself something really good about yourself. Let me give you this quote I fell upon it, and it's an unusual person for this show where a celebrity gossip show but I think it works Winston Churchill said the following A. Continuous effort not strength for intelligence is the key to unlocking your potential. Once again, continuous efforts is the key ya to unlocking your potential. I agree with that, what do you think Donny I love this because I think with me and you were a lot of like in this and that we continuously try no matter how many times we get told Oh we get knocked down we least try and that's all that I ask of everybody it takes courage though I have a lot of people who don't make the time for themselves because they're a bit scared you don't want to try something new because you have a chance of failing if you keep doing your old routine, it's Very comfortable. That's why it's called Comfort Zone I'm quite good at pushing myself outside of that comfort zone, but I do want to say one more time make an effort and keep trying, and that will be the key to your success. Not Strength Intelligence not talent keep trying hey, that's it. We run out of time Donnie. Thank you so much. We Adore when's days with you I know you up very early. 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Some STORIES From Inside Of Traffic Secrets...

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Some STORIES From Inside Of Traffic Secrets...

"Hey what's up? Everybody this Russell Brunson. Walk me back to the marketing secrets. Podcast man I don't know about you but I am in publishing mode. I've been doing more interviews. Anyone ever in history just kidding at least for me tons of interviews on the facebook lives tons of videos tons of stuff. You can't meet and do other things. You can use publish stuff and it's been a lot of fun and I'm sure you haven't been on all fifty or sixty plus interviews that I've been doing but today I did the one that I think was the best. Pr and traffic secrets. And he kind of steered me in a direction and let me go and I really enjoyed it. It was probably So far of all the ones. I've done the one where I think I did the best so there you go I duNNo. If that's cocky arrogant or just I've done it fifty times. I'm going to tell. My story is the best way but I wanted to show someone with. So it's kind of recap of what I've been talking about so many interviews but I think the one that I told the story the best and the most interesting and so if you had a chance to read the dotcoms excuse me. Not dotcom secrets that traffic. Here's book you probably heard some of these stories. But if you haven't yet this will give you hopefully excited learning more about what it is and how it works and why this is so vital so important today of all days and so without said. I'm going to Cuba theme song for the Marketing Secret. Show and come back. You're going to have a chance to listen in to an interview with Vargas talking about traffic secrets book and other really cool things. I hope that gives you some ideas and if nothing else gets you excited to go. Buy a copy of traffic secrets book. We've already sold over fifty thousand copies which is so cool especially considering that the average New York Times bestseller book only sell ten thousand copies during its initial weeks so I think he has all so much for your support and for some reason you got your book yet now. Is the time go to traffic? Secrets DOT COM. Are they again and without set up the theme song when we come back a chance to listen to the interview with me and so the big question is this? How we're entrepreneurs like us. He didn't cheat and take on venture capital spending money for own pockets. How market in a way to let us get our products and our services and the things that you believe in out to the world and yet still remain profitable. That is the question in this podcast. Give you the answer. My name is also Brunson and welcomed the marketing cheapest ladies and gentlemen the founder of Click funnels built company from zero to nine figures. I'm so stoked to have my good friend in one of my mentors Russell Brunson Russell you there my friend. I'm earpiece dude. I'm excited to have you bro. Or it's let lighting up. People are saying it and they're they're excited to hear from you today man. I'm excited to be here. Said to hang out everybody's insane. Russell has built a business from zero to nine figures and he is a brilliant guy but Russell in the midst of what's going on in our world crisis before we started jamming on traffic and funnels. And what's working and traffic secrets which stoked to give out a ton of those books today? You've been through crisis like you've faced. You've been kind of rock bottom even in your business journey before and. I don't ask everybody this but I feel like I'm supposed to ask you that today because you've been there. Can you kind of take people through like a that time? I know the story but a lot of these folks. Don't take us through that time when you face crisis and kind of what you did to get out of that man. Yeah for sure. It's funny because I've been doing this now. This is my seventeen th seventeen years business so people think I look like I'm eleven years old for a little while and so I've had a chance twice where because of my stupid business decisions almost went bankrupt and then once because of the last recession hit we did really well during the first month or two the recession or year or so recession and then we got hit hard and remember having to walk in one day laying off eighty people in one day and I want them. We're friends family members. And you know the kids and you know all the people and It is like the scariest scariest thing the world site a definitely been on that side of it and praying and working my butt off to make sure that we don't have the happened during the you know for teams during this crisis and help as many people that we have a chance to work with At the same time. But it's definitely a scary thing and I remember I remember in the moment anything during the moment and everything feels like. It's right here in psych. It's stressful and pain. And like all the things that are that are happening But man he's just like any almost every trial in life we get from God like when you look back on it later. It's like Oh that like that was so essential for me to go through because it shifted shifted. Something in me where I had become someone. Diff- fly become someone better. I had to do something that that was uncomfortable. But House forced to do it because of whatever the thing what happened because of that everything. Great happened because of it afterwards like. I look at just right now between my wife. My family and at our company wasn't for you know the you know for me the darkest most painful home my wife when we lost everything out of fire. Everything friends about image walking out on me I have like I thought everything was crashing through the ashes on wasn't for that that experience in that moment where I lost everything we wouldn't have had it. We needed to create was become funnels and his how chance to effect and touch so many people's lives and so I think I think it's important like while we're in the middle while we're in the middle of the pain or distress or that. Whatever all going through is to realize that like this. This moment is like a refining process. All of us. Make the thing that you're called to do. This can happen on the other side of this. Like this is preparing you for now. And so Just understand that in a kind of ride the wave as we go through this. And yes there'd be jobs is houses lose loved ones. Like there's there's there's pain and there's the stings but You know if we know anything from history and from time and from Just the way God works with all of us like Like if we if we endure through it And we were trying to become better through this process. Something amazing will happen on their side. So that's keep looking for the the hope in light on that side of excuse me we caught up in the fear that that it freezes them. It's like no if you don't get froze frozen goes through the go through the refining process and something amazing is a. It's going to happen on their side so anyway and it's pretty cool Russell. Because you on the other side of it created click funnels which is now a tool that we use and so many of our students use. It's one of the like one of the only tools that we recommend which is click funnels and a lot of people have questions about sales funnels and and a lot of that. And we're going to continue to tackle that through this challenge in just. GonNa be honest guys. Click funnels is the is the place that allows it to make it simple for an entrepreneur to take their stuff online russell. I obviously want to jam on this because listen I created a lot of stuff and until I started getting traffic. It didn't matter the why this challenge has been so amazing. We're going to have a hundred thousand people most likely by mid week to end the week. That's called traffic. That's traffic in there. Was nobody from the outside world. That's promoted this in like my what I've learned from you and I say this all the time Russell and Ryan Deiss or the two people that I've learned everything from which is why it was a no brainer for them. Both to be here so I know we could jam on all of this. I WANNA GO. I WanNa go the route you want to go but we have so many people that are trying to figure out what to do in the midst and I'm like dude disguise a wealth of knowledge. I WANNA jam wherever you want to go so I want to shut up and just learn and take notes pro. I think While the start with his it's interesting right now I watch the book. The book like Launch Day was the same day that That president trump will ever ready to go home which is kind of thing and then I saw it. I mean all of this is seen what happens to a business when traffic drives up right like literally their their mom and pop shops all down the street here and people would traffic driving down the street. They see the restaurant they stop and they walk in right. And that's how they live their business like the traffic. Was there lifeless and looking at traffic from like a literal traffic driving past the store right. That's the lifeblood of a business as soon as as soon as the cortines happened in traffic stock. What happens businesses like? They're dying they're disappearing. They're like the scariest thing and get any business. Traffic is the lifeblood am curious people who are listening right now in the in the comments like how many guys know that you got the best product or service or idea or something in the world and you you see your competitors in your competitors are worse than you. They're not serving the customers away. The you would serve him. You know your solution your idea your product. Whatever it is your passion about you know can help more people than the competitors but all the competitors people buying their products write. And you're driving me crazy. 'cause like now. I feel like I have this calling him and called the service group of people. I can do it in a way. That's unique to me. Nobody else can do but for some reason I can't. I can't get my message out in front of people and that's what so many people come to me is just like God. I know they have something. I just don't know how to get out there. And so you know the worker to Click on Sasol Valet build funnels your message out and learning how to tell your story in the right way and This last chapter. We've been folks on really heavily. Right now is is traffic. Because it's the missing piece and I think the most people when they when they hear about traffic they think about Anita run facebook ads or I need a run. Google ads The problem with that is that It's that's like a tactic is a strategy that works right now for a little while but it changes Louisiana. You've only been in business for six months a year five even ten years last ten years. It's been pretty good. Ever since Mark Zach came in man I love mark. He's made our lives so easy But I tell you what I remember what happened when Google started and it was really easy for me and then the first Google fought happened and we had a shift our whole businesses around half the people who had businesses lost him. When the first Google Stock Happen Your ones that lasted the next groups out next. Nextwave got cut next. Wave cut and esther looking at right now. We're in this. This window were were facebook and instagram than really easy. But I know it's going to be happy And it may be it may be mark comes into changes rules. I right now. I can't tell you how many people are losing their ads. Accounts are getting things. Shut down in the freaking out Also noted with government regulations. Like what happens if if the government decides Mark Zuckerberg's running you know monopoly which I mean who you know. We'RE GONNA get in trouble for the next day violation. Whatever the thing is like he'd addicted disappear tomorrow for any of US and for most people listening if you do have a business. You've probably built it on that one foundation. If you don't have a business yet it's scary to build them in one spot that disappears just happening Google over and over and over again. Like half of the entrepreneurs are Moore's businesses will dry up disappear overnight. So mild goal at this book was a marketing to teach. People will like the tactic powder in a facebook ad or Google ad. They help people understand strategically. How traffic works because we understand that It it supersedes any of those things so the way that I the way that when you guys have a chance to go through the book I can walk. The very first chapter is all about really understanding your dream customer and lead with the fact that that You know we're both have faith and in God him and we both have very similar beliefs and I talked about this in the book. I believe that all of us entrepreneurs and business owners. If if you've ever felt that tug like need to be doing something I need to be be helping someone Alex Sharpen calls at the call contribution. Like you've heard that call contribution solicited doing something that poll like that is a literal calling from God. Get His blessing. I feel like businesses. The businesses the blessed is a calling from God. Where it's like you say all right. This is a group of people that you are called to serve. You need to help them to serve them. Whatever whatever capacity kit and so for me whatever reason I guess I was growing up my. I got obsessed with sales funnels and marketing director spike. Who Know why was interested in that? I have no idea but now fast forward fifteen years later say. Oh because that's your corey right p. How in the world like the guy who gives people on stage like why like why that? How do they can put in your lap? And why did all these? These these chain of events happened to meet you. The best in the world thing right doesn't make sense. Why happens until later? Oh because that's my calling spe- helping people so if everyone listening to this there's been a chain of events of things have happened in your life. They're prepared you to be able to serve a group of people and so the first part traffic is not how target people between the ages of twenty two and thirteen through instagram right. The first question is who is your dream customer. Who is that person you've been called to serve? Who are you supposed to change their life? And that's what I want to start because most people don't start there and that's the most important part about traffic. Traffic is just humans people like that. My Gosh right the first questions at and for all you guys you need to understand that like at a deep deep level deeper than just like Oh yeah helping women who we met like know who like who is that person looked like I. I got so obsessed with this that I remember I went into Google and I went to Google images. I typed in all the phrase of my drink like what they did. What they what they look like how they all this stuff I could think of. It popped up always I gu images of faces like that's my personal like that's the persona serve. I took the picture I printed out put on my wall. I did one for men and for women who had all my wall ever as A. That's who I'm trying to serve. That's the level you need to get into so that you are thinking what they think. What what they're excited by what they're passionate about gags if you're going to serve. You need to know them even more intimately than they know themselves. That's number one number. Two the cool thing of the Internet is that people. The Internet gives us the ability to group together based on similar beliefs and values and things were excited by right so far he has listening. Start thinking thinking about this in your own life like like where the where the places on the Internet you congregate right right so thinking about wake with things that are important to me. I'm very passionate about business. Like I handed from business blogs and forums and groups and podcasting bright. I'm also interested in biohacking so I I listen to all the biohacking podcast. I'm listening. I'm plugging all the biohacking blogs and have these communities of people that that are excited. About seeing things I am right and so I- congregate in different spots. I guarantee fall as you have the same thing right. You're congregating in different different groups based on stuff. You're excited by it. So the first the first question. Who is your dream customer? The second question is where they congregating canes the simple question but we start thinking about that. It opens up this whole new world of traffic to you. It's not like I'm GONNA target him on Instagram. For whatever it's it's Oh my gosh. Here's thirty top blogs that over Marinus blogs got three hundred thousand readers a month. This one's got one hundred thousand millionaires. These are the blogs that reading in the second phase. Then it's okay. What podcast they listen to. You can literally so funny people right. What's your biggest traffic strategy? Might get your phone out Open up the PODCASTING APPS so if you if using apple. There's a free podcasts. Yep GOT IT AND APPLE. Actually categorize the top podcasts in the world. So it's cool as you go to go to browse you. Scroll down where says it says talk shows and rare top shows that says says Click. See All and you click on the very top says all categories. It shows you all the different categories that. There's podcasting scroll through here. It's like Oh there's a health and fitness kids leisure music business. Education is like religion spirituality. Here's all these these congregations of people. So let's say I have a product that helps kids and families I click on it was crazy. This is GonNa show me the top two hundred kids in family podcast in the world. People all the time if I could just get on the Ellen show. I'd be rich if I could get on good morning. America with my product. I be rich. You understand people aren't watching the TV's anymore They're they're plugging into these things right here in so right now brain on science podcast for Donald. Know what that is. Number One podcast. I bet she gets more downloads per month than any. Tv show right now because if you can get your product or service on that podcast. 'cause you figure out what wearing my chemo. Congregating their targeting on this podcast and that one and that one like all these podcasts. There's two hundred places your dream. Customers are congregating plugging into the ears and listening to the most intimate moments right. And there's two hundred places and get traffic to facebook. The Zuckerberg shuts down my account. I can still go here I can get traffic from podcast and the same thing is true in blogging and Youtube. And there's so many places you drink customers are congregating and if you really understand who they are. It's not hard to figure out where they where they actually that's kind of how we shift traffic of the mindset shift is just instead of like how do. I target somebody. It's it's a bigger thing like who's my customer. We're the congregating and then start making less literally have listen. Here's all the youtube. Channels between customers are watching. Here's all of the INSTAGRAM influencers follow. Here's Youtube Gre goes through with these huge lists of people that then figure out whether yes. That's so good guys. He just gave you one traffic strategy right now. That literally will help all of you win if you're serious about getting your stuff out to the market and this is what I think when I'm hearing this Russell. Two things number one. I think of this idea a lot of people say Pete Year the stage guy so you must be terribly hit right now no because I talk about eleven digital stages and eleven physical stages. We have twenty two stages that we go after so. I'm having to lean more into the digital stage bucket. What Russell's teaching you right now is like a portfolio of traffic. Everybody thinks Google or facebook. And they're good right now. Trust me this is the cheapest that we've ever gotten leads on facebook in the history of me running ads Russell. But that's not the only sources where we have traffic Russell's teaching you a whole portfolio. Obviously he's dialing into a few but you gotta have a portfolio traffic. I believe this book right now for Russell for people is a lifeline to what's going on in this world right now so bro. That's just bombs keep going man. They're loving it do they're blowing. The common stopover here very cool K now when it. I'll tell a story that kind of illustrate says well she can see in the real world. Because somebody doesn't make sense assist podcasts. Now what do I do and so right now? Obviously if every mostly everybody in the world is in quarantine right now right or some version of it. Some people are like you can't leave your house please. State Your House so for us with my kids. I've got five kids so that's a lot of kids for anyone who doesn't who doesn't know and I love him but it's it's a lot and every rank. What do you do something funding families? We started watching All the marvel movies from very beginning in chronological order. So captain America Captain Marvel and so on and so forth right and watching them all in order. And I'm really signing because we'll tell me it's the end of it. We're halfway through right now. We'll get to the end of it. The next marvel movie coming out what it is by the way. What is the next marvel? Movie Coming Out Peter No. I'm her this off. The new. The new one coming out is black widow theft. The next May but got bumps according to a little bamboo which makes me sad but I can still use the story sharing my microwave so thinking about this. We see this all the time happening in Hollywood. I'm here for some reason with our Internet businesses. Think it's differ. I think about when when black widow starts coming out what is going to do. They're going they're Hussein. Thing is talked about like who's been customers were they congregating right and the first thing Hollywood's GonNa do. They're going to come back. They're going to buy ads. These places right so they're going to run ADS on TV. We've seen a paying for ADS on TV. They're going to go to actual movie theaters where people are sitting in the theater. Say and people who go to movie theaters liked to go to movie theaters. You're going to buy all the trailers before the movies and to pitching pitching room. Black WIDOWS COMING OUT RIGHT WE'RE GONNA to be paying. They're gonNA find all the congregation that have been by the way and then about a week before the opening premier would they're going to do is okay. The people are GonNa come to the event where that where their eyeballs at where the hanging out in the located. They're going to be watching the today show and I show and S- and Good Morning America and Jimmy Fallon and Jimmy. The other Jimmy. I don't even know I don't watch enough. Tv to know but all the talk shows right and you'll start seeing a week before the movie comes out. Scarlett Johansson is GONNA come out. We all have Scarlett Johansson here. Our family she's come out and she got every single show and she's GonNa tell them she's going to be on the show And then she cliff and video and the day. This this weekend's opening next week in there helplessly in yourself theaters. And she's GonNa push and she's going to be working away. Caso so all MC Marvel Disney when they're buying in they're buying ads always places but then the second half is they're working their way they're having Scarlett Johansson wherever the actresses the actor go and being all these different shows telling their story getting people excited and getting them to to come to show their buying their way in and they're working their way. You see movie every new seat every album that comes out every like this is what Hollywood does over and over and over again. It's right now like I'm in the middle of my book. Launch and same thing I did launch my book in our. I'm buying ads everywhere. I guess. If you ever see my face once in your life or you heard my name now. My ads are popping up everywhere. And you're probably sick and tired because I'm buying my weight everywhere. The same time I'm talking about. I went to every single podcast in the business directory. And I'm working my way I've been I think fifty plus podcast interviews in the last week and a half two weeks then. Facebook live every person's got facebook channel. I've been doing Interviews THERE. I'm working my way. I'm going to every blogger and work with them a blog articles again. I'm working my way always channels on by my weight and I'm working my way right now. We're sitting here live with thousands of people watching. I'm working my weight. I'm here. He did pay me to be here. I'm not paying him to be here. I'm coming in and working serving. I'm giving a hoping nobody's Mandavi like I need that book. That sounds amazing right. Just like at the end. The movie stars your hands and I hope become. Watch the movie this weekend right for anything. Your service start looking at it through the lens of. It's not just targeting on facebook. Go do that. But it's like okay. Where all the places imagine customer's rat and I need to figure out. How can I buy and work my way and sometimes you can do both as well? So as you can't like for example where the podcast Jenna. Couture's got the gold digger. Podcast which is a huge podcast. And I was going to be on the podcast interviews women on the podcast so I can't less I I duNno I. It's not GONNA be easy to get to her podcast but like at work my way in but guess what I can do. I can buy ads on it so we pay her to run. Ads Sowing my book on her podcast. So I'm I'm working my way I'm buying my way is looking all these different congregations everywhere is how can work my wait. How come how come to buy my way? I find some of the big blog with five hundred thousand readers. Here's a huge blog. Can I BUY ON BY BANNER AD? Can I work by way? Could you guess coast? Like how can I get access to this huge source in the shoot stream and traffic and when you do that unlocks thousands of customers for you? Oftentimes and so I think I think we gotta get. We gotta get your lovely wife on Jenness podcast. That's I think correct. You turn my women's brand here and this is getting traffic. This is so good like people are lighting it up. Keep going man. I mean keepdriving ads everywhere everywhere and you should see I mean. Facebook is lighten it up over here too so very cool. I love this game. If you can't tell it's so much fun. Okay I'll give the next step of this strategy. I don't have no idea how long it's been going for equal if I accept. Connect steps like dude. We've got fifteen minutes here. I mean we got literally technically thirty minutes left. But there's no. There's no wedding happening after this wedding kicked out of the ballroom okay. So can we come back? Who's your customer where they congregate? How do I work my way? And by my way and the next thing to think about this is the next strategic level is. Let's say I find this blog and has got five hundred thousand readers right. So how do I how do I? How do I get access to all the people in their the one step above that is a concept? Talk About Chapter Two. Here's called the dream. One hundred. I learned initially for my friends than Chet. Holmes castaway for years ago. But he had this concept called the dream one hundred and the way that he used the dream of Hunter's a little bit different than how I use it. But what he can do is he had a bunch of forcing five hundred companies. Who wanted to get? We made a list of the top hundred companies and he would build a strategic marketing campaign. Where every single week was marketing to directly to these hundred customers. He told me now. Like what's cool? That's cool but like I don't know how to use books I saw I have. I can't spend a bunch of money. Spent five hundred dollars thousand dollars to get it to get from to buy books. I'll go broke really fast and then I look through different Lens. I said wait a minute. What if I look at like the two hundred podcasters have these podcasts? And the let's say the the hundred blogs that I know in my market in the the hundred YouTube channels one hundred. Instagram influences may mark. What if I took those became I dream one hundred and instead of just just say the following of the people which I will? I'm still GONNA buy ads and stuff. What if I spent more money marketing to the to the person who controls that block where the podcast whatever that is and so? I'm going to try and so I went and I made it. I call the driverless fluids. Yes you'll get a copy of the book on page. I think it's forty case. Forty one forty one. I've graphically how I do it so if you're watching the video. Se this is the graphic right here but basically fluids facebook in the top across facebook instagram. Podcast youtube email list of different platforms. Down below is a list of. Who's all the people on facebook who already have my dream customers and a whole list of those people who were all the incident? People make a list of them. Who are all the PODCASTS? By time it's done I have a list of like fifty or one hundred or five hundred km caused the dream one hundred so now it's okay. What if I would if I spent some time or money? Marketing to those one hundred people what could possibly happen so. I did my very first book about six years ago. It's called I. We saw dotcom secrets whereas launching that. I didn't have a big list of customers at the time I was like okay. I need to figure this out so I did exactly until they're building three hundred list. I had on a hundred podcast. There's a list of all the people and I sent out a free copy of the book to all these people coming in and going to like three or four hundred from people as he was copy of my book If you like it or love to be on your podcast on your show whenever people and And I sent out there and then nothing happened for a little bit and then probably a week later. I got my first call back and was from a guy named John. Lead YOU MR entrepreneur afire in jail and I never met him before his furnace and how I met jail these. I sent him a copy of my book in The mail because he had podcast in the top two hundred podcasts. The podcast directory and messaging back. He's like Russell I read. This is really really good. I was like cool dude. And he's like do you want to be on my podcast and we can. I can at the book I was like Heck. Yeah let's do it so I took our podcast series now. The book a little later. The podcast goes live from that one interview alone. We end up selling over five hundred copies of the book. Wow that was from one person now. Jd was nearly person said. Yes from that. I got thirty or forty people. Message me back We started doing this thing all over the place and so we ended up selling hundred thousand. Plus copies of the book was by doing the Stream. One hundred strategy wasn't he targeting the audience and we gave we target audience allowed but it was when the gatekeeper. The person own the traffic said yes that one. Yes it turns into five hundred customers or thousand customers or more and that's the magic people all the time. Who told me that I? I my traffic strategy as facebook. I'm like okay. So Mark Zuckerberg is one person on your dream one hundred. You've got one union ninety nine more because the march sizes Nike one day. Your Business is done like it's it's game over so look at look at facebook as one of your dream. One hundred marks aquifers one person a ninety nine more. And that's what they're looking at traffic and I start figuring how do I? How do I worked my way hundred by how to get to know? These people are able to relationships as you know people it opens up. These huge doors. Were now again. One person like jail. The does a podcast interview sells five hundred bucks one person gets you on the PODCAST. Talk About Your New Kids. Course or your new. You know the kid product coming out and your kid podcast. Boomy sell thousands and thousands of overnight. That's the magic of understanding how this online traffic stuff works. Hey guys the one nugget. I've gotten from Russell the day a ton but the one I always look for the one I can implement Russell. That's what I'm like. God which one can I implement right away. I'm doing dream one hundred wrong. I gotTa do it like this like if I can dream. One hundred like this now due to facebook shuts down. I'm cool. I might see a little bit of drop off but if this shuts down. It's kind of like a multi units. Like if you lose one renter you're okay. 'cause he's ninety nine hundred other renters out there that are still paying. That's how Russell is making it. It's like a paradigm shift in my mind. It's one of the biggest misconceptions is. They won't let me on their channel of Traffic Russell. Will you tackle that for a quick? Second 'cause I mean lot didn't know you but like will you tackle that for all of them like I'm not a big name. I'm not known I would love for you to tackle that. Yeah I think was important. People care less about I mean the AD. They want the big name on a show but I start. People have their own podcasts or shows or blogs like they're looking for content or craving for content with more instinct than them more so than a name is a hook. What's the hook? What's the story going to be bout? So if you say I'm GonNa come on your on your show and you can interview about how great I am that it like. That's tough unless you're the greatest person world that I that's not going to be a big thing even me to stay like I don't pinch joining Russell Brunson. Whatever that means like I'm I'm just like an eleven year old kid sitting in my house right now. It's not that important that cool. What's cool I come to the hook? Okay I've got a really cool Mesic and share. This is what it is. Why the awesome your audience and I pitched just like if I was going to pitch you on the Pitcher Michelle Concept Right. Some coming was something that and that's what hooks them care more about the hook because that's the thing that listeners viewers an eyeball for that right. We always make fun of all of the. Click BASED SITES. Click baby stuff. Those companies make insane amounts of money. And they don't even care if the story is true or false. They couldn't care less. There's looking for the story. It's GonNa like Hook People's attention to get in the country so people click on add. Which is unethical and immoral should do that. And saying that's the power of like what media cares about is a care about a story. That's the most important things you coming to them. Say what's your story. What's something you can share with their audience unique? They care more about the story than about the name. The brand most people even if they know their audience doesn't know or care who I am. They do care if I can come say look during economic downturn if you facebook got shut down things like that I got. I got a different way to look at traffic lights. Make it easier to get traffic right now than ever possible there. I own my gosh. My people are struggling traffic. It opens up that by gate. So she's looking at the store. You have the ties back to your product. Your service just like if you're trying to pitch it to get on and again like traditional media today show you always gotta go pitcher Max show They don't care who you are. They care about the story that they can they can throat. That's what that's what gets people. Listen to their podcasts or read their blog or whatever the thing is that's what they really weren't so that's what you're offering them. Yeah I love that. So I'm stoked about this Russell Kinda I don't know if there's another step or two or if you want to bring it full circle ears now yes I'll throw an author of one more thing And this is a question is asked like well. How do we get in by dream? One hundred hundred gets no then. It's the question's always like what am I. Offer my dream one hundred like I'm a nobody like what do I have this like? How do I serve? And how do I wanNA know who I am? And so on until you is the most powerful thing that you have to offer your dream. One hundred is a platform right. I will get just just for example. Look at everybody who has had on this. This This this life series which is insane like he's had billionaires people like it's crazy like what is pete had offer everybody that's unique. Why did they return his call? Why did they show up? It's because Pete has a platform right. I'm GonNa do a thing and you might have thirty five hundred people alive watching like that's a platform that anybody is crazy. Nuts like jump to try to get access to you right. And so I'll tell you a story that the illustrate this How many gives you remember back in the early or late eighties early nineties a TV show late night TV? Show with Arsenio Hall how many Guys Remember Arsenio Hall? Do everyone do this right now. While you're seeing home because we all yes say in revenues Arsenio Hall is like what is Russell doing so late? I talk show. He was like the man. You're the best talk show in fact. It was so big. When President Clinton was running for President Arsenio Hall called Hate. Anyone perform on the show. He's like yes. He came on the show. You've played heartbreak hotel on a saxophone and made people credit that the fact that he was on our senior hall show playing the Saxophone to the reason why he won. Presidential candidate presidential begin present because of because he's on that show. He said this way so many of the minority in the younger voters that he wouldn't have otherwise then now two years later or see the whole show gets canceled off the air gone and nobody hears Marciniak Hog in for decades. The guys off the rate are you know he died and then one day I think it was Is Two thousand. Believe during a celebrity apprentice they have always celebrities washed up celebrities that come back on the show. Typically and celebrity friends there and one of the contestants is Arsenio Hall am watching him. That's all he was the man like what happened. That guy and I know idea and insular and he was like three or four episodes in there doing this fundraising gig go out and to to go raise funds and so all. The celebrities are calling the rich buddies and trying to get money and some guys raise like like a couple of million dollars for people like five hundred thousand every single one of the celebrities. Raise some money for charity except for one person Arsenio Hall. He raised exactly zero dollars an entire day on the phone call is foam. But he's calling every single person and right before he goes in the boardroom. There's little window of time where they interview him and he says this quote the like extra most here like when he said it just hit me he said man when I have my own show. Everybody returned my call as all. Uc power in that when he had his own show even the future most powerful man on Earth President United States came on the show because he had a platform platform disappears. Return his call. So that's understand. Why do you have a platform yet? If not like that is the key. That's how you infiltrate your dream one hundred. That's how I got Tony Robbins to return my call. I've been able to other people that you're my call. Not because I'm this cool like Russell so awesome. No they don't care about that. I have a platform make an offer that that's the thing you have a value so if you don't have a platform yet now time start building one and I don't care if it's on youtube or instagram re podcasts. Like if you're a blogger doesn't matter where forget which modality like the most? If you had writing go start a blog if you like. Video started Youtube Podcast he started podcast. Pick up whichever one you want in double that start building your show because if you don't have a platform gets really hard to get people to junior club when you do have one everyone return your call and that's really the power how you infiltrate the dream. One hundred is you give them access to your platform is all the I G are working. Are Building it Even if don't want to I don't want to enact some of the day who got copybooks. Like if I get this book to become Gary Vader Chuck and do five thousand videos a day. I'm like no you don't but you need to be publishing somewhere like it. It's not the only thing to have to have traffic but met. It makes things easier when you when you have a platform And so that's kind of the last thing I want to share man. Everyone has Thinking how criminal platform because I wanNA make sure that when I pick up the phone to call influence remained. Assure the PODCAST. I want to be on whatever I've got some value. I can offer them in the thing. Value have for people is access Chiro Platform Dude. I love that. Guy Russell a lot of your like what's funnel wrestle. Maybe you can just tackle that for two minutes like help. Like I know seventy percent might know what it is. Thirty percent don't understand funnel it's been set a lot this week can the guru the master of funnels. Can you give us the elementary funnel explanation of what a finalist? So people know what to build in their business. I know that's a big topic but I'm sure you're gonNA be minute answer. It's tough because are so many. Different types of funnels or subtle to generate leads are funneled to sell products or live events. Like there's different funneled through different things but basically funnel is a step by step sales process. So you can tell us a photo because usually each step in the process. Only ask you do one thing. Unlike a stop stores like eight thousand things you can order. A funnel always is like each page has one called. Actually give me your email address next page like watch this video and then when you buy this thing and the next page is like. Here's an upset was taken into a step-by-step simple sales process and by doing that. Two things happened number one. You increase how much money you give. Every single person who comes in every all the traffic each personally comes into your funnel. You'll make more money from them in second actually gives them a better experience as well when they go through a funnel not being bombarded like always auction opportunities. It's just like step by step by cures. The first thing you need the second thing the third thing and you take them down a path of success and so it's it's makes more money for for the person who owns a funnel and makes a better experience the person's going through the funnel as well so that's a basic perfect. 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GSMC Movie Podcast Episode 130: Alita: Battle Angel and Ghost in the Shell

GSMC Movie Podcast

35:00 min | 2 years ago

GSMC Movie Podcast Episode 130: Alita: Battle Angel and Ghost in the Shell

"Can't decide in torn between a romantic comedy action or an indie film to watch for the weekend. Well, we'll well. Golden State media concepts movie podcast is your ultimate guide to the latest movies. Join us is we dissect the latest on the blockbusters, it's the Golden State media concepts movie podcast. Hello. And welcome to the GMC movie podcast. Brought to you by the GMC podcast network. I am real host hiding, and I am very happy to be joined by the wonderful, Sarah. Hello, okay. So on this episode. We are talking about some scifi films. We are going to be talking about alita battle angel and ghost in the shell. So alita is outright. Now. Indeed IRS, and I picked goes on the shell particularly talk about it. The came out twenty seventeen they have a lot of similarities if you have seen the advertisements for alita feel and how can you miss them? Holy book. It's ruining the heck out of the show. Oh, yeah. They're promoting it and not only they're promoting it. But I feel like the other thing that I just can't not see our her is your huge. And if you're wondering why my guess is because it is based off of a manga. Which is a Japanese comic book. And so I feel like the eyes of her look like, you know, anime style. Yes. And that is really another. That is like one of the reasons I wanted to choose talk about ghost in the shell and alita, and it's because they're both based off of Japanese works both based off of manga and also just the controversy that has surrounded both films. I definitely feel like I heard about it more and goes on the shell. And just I don't know some of the styles and some of the themes of both films. Also, I do want to mention something that I will talk about later, but alita is also produced by James Cameron. And this movie has kind of been long in the making. It's a project that James Cameron has been talking about for a very long time. And so I just feel like it's something that people have been waiting for. But they're promoting it a bunch. But it's also. Probably not the avatar like blockbuster that James Cameron was hoping probably not a little little different. But I also will talk about you can really feel the echoes of avatar, and obviously James Cameron's hand in alita as well. Okay. So I'm going to start with talking about alita as I said, this isn't theaters now came out twenty nineteen. This is an action film based on the nineteen nineties Japanese manga series called Ghanam also known as battle angel alita which was made written and illustrated by Yuki Tokyo key Shiro, it is about a deactivated female cyborg who is revived. But cannot remember anything of her past life and goes on a quest to find out who she is. If that sounds like a movie who've seen before. Yeah. You're just gonna keep thinking that the whole time. You're watching this Bill because I was like I feel like I've seen this movie before feel like, I know the classic identity searching mine wiped sort of cyborg character. Didn't we took last week about an identity searching them? She wasn't a cyborg up up. She was like an alien superhero. Yes. And it was interesting. The theater that I went to go see this movie at it was only playing like alita, and then captain marvel and potentially Greta, which is another female lead movie and all female protagonists, which was really cool, but I would say definitely alita, and captain marvel of very much very similar Sifi powerful like almost supernatural powers of a female protagonist and about him nesia. So the diversity for me. The theater was not a lot. But you know, I I went to go see. Alita? And it was it was okay. It's pretty good. It's directed by Robert Rodriguez. And again also created by James Cameron who wrote it along with later Callo grievous, and it was produced by James Cameron as well and John land. Do it stars Rosa Salazar as a leader Christopher Walz as Dr Dyson, Idaho. Who is a scientist and kind of becomes like leaders father figure also keyon Johnson as Hugo which is a lead as love interest. Mma Herschel, Ali as vector who is an entrepreneur who kind of sort of a villain in the film, or at least a sketchy character. Also, Jennifer Connelly as Dr Shirin and Edward Norton. Also, appears in the film, I like I saw him. And gosh, I know that guy what is name what is his name. And then Francisco, of course, Edward Norton, and he doesn't he's not a huge character. But he plays. You know, you see him occasionally from around the end. But I also want to mention that in this film is George leaden Borg junior as Tonge he was in the newest transformers film, which I talked about earlier on the podcast and also Lanta Condor as me who is a friend of Hugo's, and she is in of course, to all the boys love I've ever loved or twelve the boys I've loved before before. Thank you. Thank you, which we've also talked about on the podcast. So I just wanted to mention them seen their back. You read the book, I have not been rising. I know it's all my list. Okay. Good so long that we're gonna get to it. Oh, gosh. And it's in the series too. So lots. It's okay. It's okay. She does a good job in this film. Okay. So alita battle angel. Really? There's so much going on in this film. Like, honestly, probably more like plot wise than probably too much to make this film. Any good to be honest. It's kind of like it's like that scifi movie bloat, you know, there's so much world building and whatnot. And there's so many elements of like, okay, it's a distort. Like, what does this mean? Who's the overlord now like what is the war that probably caused this? What is the fallout that probably caused this? There's just so much going on. And there's like oh people now can do this with their hands. That's weird. I didn't know that telepathy. What cheese it's just so much. And I think they're trying to put a lot into this movie that I just don't think it was destined to be super clear or concise especially because they're using it off of a source matere. Aerial like among that is more serialized. It's definitely got a lot of content, and it's just like trying to put a bunch of books into one movie. I hate it when they do the, right? It's just you know, it's not going to be good. And the other thing is I think there were sending it up to have a sequel, and I don't know if we're going to end up doing that. I'm not sure box office got a little bit of a bigger boost. Now that it's being shown in China that of course will help. But I don't know I feel like they set you up kind of for a sequel, and I'm surprised they did because there's so much information this film, maybe the next one will be better because they're not trying to educate me so quickly on the world that alita battle angel is in and I also want to mention this takes place in the future. In future. You know? So let me just say in this film when they were like, I don't know you're twenty five thirty four whatever super future year. It is still be a where they're cyborgs and whatnot. Everyone looks at their from early two thousands. I don't understand like you're telling me cargo pants are still in style. Very convenient. No fuck. It's I told my boyfriend that everyone the future just as cargo pants like it's because they're the most -tarian. No, it's it's it's post apocalyptic, you gotta carry stuff. You know, you never know. What's going to happen? People have robot arms. They could just build another arm stuff. But what if your armfuls off then you have pocket to put it in? That's true. The cargo shorts had a lot of they have a lot of pockets. I mean, maybe apparently they're going to make a comeback. But that was also interesting that in this version of the future, everyone just kind of wears normal clothes except in a lot of other dystopia futures. Everyone's wearing robot suits, and like super latex. Yeah. Exactly. There was no pleasure in this film. But interesting also I want to comment the main love interest Hugo he looks like the cool rebel teenager from like late nineteen nineties early two thousands like almost like Johnny Depp and crybaby or like, Sean and boy meets world. He's got the leather jacket. You know, like the the handkerchief thing in his hair plan of the right word, and he has like he rides a motorcycle. It's like the hair that's kind of slicked back. But it has those pieces that kind of fall in the front. Geez. You know? Like, I don't know tickles forehead. I'm not sure it just. I just couldn't stop. She seen Sean. Looking at have seen him before. But more. It's like I've seen the amalgamation of every rebel team that he's trying to be and I just couldn't unseen it. And again, you're telling me, that's that's the style of boy that everything comes back all comes back around the thing. Yeah. Apparently came back around in this right, somehow for whatever reason, but we're gonna take a quick break. And then we'll come right back and keep talking about alita battle angel. Want to know the latest and hot is using hidden. The airwaves be left out. Listen to the Golden State media concepts music podcast. Keep keeps you on with everything you need to know. Rock hiphop top forty and we'll throw in the use of your favorite artists, concert and tour dates and so much more. Listen further because this is the gold standard in music podcasts. Welcome back to the movie podcast. We are continuing to talk about these scifi film alita battle angel. So earlier I mentioned the cargo pants of the future. Look like the cargo pants of the two thousands early two thousands. I never changed. That's fine. Whatever also like the bad flannel that just came back. But then it's like, the everyone seems to have like a mechanical, arm and bad flannel and cargo shorts, and then you also get people in giant robotic suits. Which is really interesting. I kind of want to mention it's like in this future version, you can kind of survive if every part of your body gets a straight except for your head and part of your spinal cord, oh, I don't I mean, I guess the future. You know, brought us a lot of things like amazing amazing surgery techniques and whatnot. I mean, obviously cyborg was just gonna say we've would become the Borg from Star Trek. Well, I don't know to be honest. I really don't know. It's okay. But that's the thing with alita the character is she is found, and then you find like, you know, she's a cyborg, but it's only part of her body and her head, which is like has a human brain. I guess and then they're able to put that into a cyborg body, and she can survive and fight and she's like super mazing. But then like other characters also like cyborg bodies that aren't wearing cargo shorts. They have like cyborg bodies. And they're like have like, oh, you have a knife. Fern arm saws on your knees, or whatever. And then they can just walk around and everything's fine and strange and they like kill all the robots. It's very odd. Also with the story there's so much like. Sifi? I dunno cliches in general, and it's kind of like they're just trying to make a different version of blade runner like which many distortions scifi films are trying to emulate at least like the American ones that I've seen but along with the cliches besides the fact that reminds me of blade runner. There's like this feel like every futuristic distort the others like a game that's really deadly. It's kind of like futuristic gladiator fights where like people in there. Like in this version people in robot suits play like deadly roller derby and slice each other's heads off for like cheering crowds. Lovely. Yeah. And again, it's just like oh his head came off. But we're going to put them in a new robot body, and he's fine with it. Like I and everyone's like, yeah. Take him down. I I don't know. It's very odd. And only thing protecting them as like the plexiglas at a hockey game. And I'm like just cut that guy at half. You're not afraid of him. I don't understand. But yeah, I just feel like the cliche is like super dangerous game. Game, and like people just killing everyone left, and right sort of really for no reason. And I don't know. I can definitely tell it's based off of like a manga, but. I don't feel like it may be translated super. Well. It's clunky. And so much of like the lingo is used to describe this new stope, Ian future. They talk about the fall. And I'm you know. Okay. Sure. Yes. I fight the fall that habit, and they have to lay out so much history. And what not that like, I kind of feel like the writers. They choose between like the clumsy like information dumps and like sort of trying to explain the setting like so that way they can also have the action. So it's like, okay. Do we have this action scene or do? We have an explanation of what's going on. And sometimes they make a choice that doesn't quite feel. Right. But you know, it's odd to talk about the effects, of course, James Cameron is involved. So we have to talk about the effects the CGI is very good James Cameron used much of the CGI that he had learned when making avatar to make this film. He actually was talking about making this film before he even made avatar, but he made avatar. Stead before this one and a lot of people say that he did that because he felt avatar was more of a pressing subject because it relates to the environment and things like that. So he wanted to make it bef- like earlier when I think about the fact that he delayed it so long. I wonder if that's why he chose like I dunno early two thousand fashion style. Because when you start thinking about it. I know that's also I guess the mangas like from the nineties, so potentially. But he's been thinking about it for a long time initially he was going to direct it, but then eventually handed it over to its current director, which again is Robert Rodriguez. So he's very involved. You can really see that the techniques are like if you've seen behind the scenes when they're making avatar or Lord of the rings. For example, it will be a lot of people in a green screen room and the character of alita, for example. The actress will have the little dots on her face and being like, basically like a green more food. And so the. Maters and the people who are doing CGI tracking her movements and using her acting cues to then influence how they animate and move the character. Wait, are you saying those aren't her realize I'm saying, those are not just context? She's almost I guess I would really say it's kind of like she's completely CGI. I mean, she was obviously based off a person and really the character. Alita looks a lot like the actress who plays her besides the is you can kind of see the similarities, so I do have to commend the actors for working in almost completely green screen environmentally. Did a pretty good job. But it's it's good. You know, the the world building in the scenes, look good. But it really reminds me of a video game so much. So like there are just scenes that felt like a video game cut scene. Like you'd be video game character of like Alito walking down the street. And then suddenly character would pop out from the dark, and suddenly you'd get like a black screen, and you'd cut to some random narrative scene where the characters like telling you their life story, and like being like now we're going to fight like pope Amman battle or go. And it's like oh God. No, why are we doing this? So really I just kept thinking that it was a video game. And I actually think it would be a good video game potentially. After this movie. They'd make video game. I don't know. I mean, I don't know James Cameron. If you wanna take my idea go for it. But I just it's a little awkward in movie form also elitist big is that I see all the advertisements. I thought it'd be a bigger problem for me. But I actually didn't notice them that much like a few minutes after she was on screen kind of just got used to it. Even though she looks way more computer animated than like everyone else. Right. But it's all right. I kind of got over it in a we were watching the preview one day. And my husband says is it real is it animated live action. Is it animated? What is that? Like, I think it's both weird mix. I mean, it is kind of like avatar in that sort of way, you know, and how they're sending it up. But I feel like an avatar. Okay. You're in the forest, and you're all animated, and there are as many scenes when it's like real live person with like CGI creature, and it just didn't feel as weird. But overall, I want to say the like once we reached. The end of the movie, I kind of enjoyed it. I feel like at the end I had grasped all of the world building jargon. And I kind of the story had really weeded out plotlines that didn't really need to be there. And it just kind of got propelled while the protagonist got propelled towards their alternate goal. And honestly it took two hours to set up with the ultimate goal. Bose. Yeah. It was long. So by the time, we got to the end of the movie, I was like, oh, they make a second. Then everything else that was just sort of. I don't know clunky up. The first part would be out of the way, I would understand. And then maybe I could enjoy the second. But honestly, I'm don't really think I'm going to see the sequel unless they hear really really good things about it. Wasn't that interesting of this first film? But I mean, they just weeded stuff out that didn't need to be there. And it got better. Once we reached the end, they should've weeded out in the editing process rather than using the movie doing things out in the writing process. They really should have some lines are really not good. I guess my other overall comment is special effects are good. And I like Christopher Walz. So even though his name is Dyson vacuum, which is not the name of the character in the manga. But whatever, and he's kind of the only person that I could even kind of take seriously as he plays like this bumbling. Bad scientists like running around like sort of like Indiana Jones style clutching his hat what he's like right around with like an overly size like axe weapon with flames. Like, I really can't take that seriously except that it's Christopher waltz. And I think is the only person that can really straddle a line between trying to be serious and then also goofy. I feel it can kind of play that. Well, he's almost like trying to be a dad joke, but doesn't quite get their sign up sort of a dad, but then he scientists, but also killing people, I don't know it's Christopher welts role that not many people could sort of pull off. So I enjoyed watching him. But you know, if you have some extra time, you could potentially go see it or wait for to come out and DVD's. Okay. I wanna talk about our next film, which is ghost in the shell. And this came out twenty seventeen. This is a American scifi film directed by Rupert Sanders written by Jamie moss. William Wheeler and urine. Krueger, it's based on the Japanese manga of the same name by Muslim Mooney. Shiro it is set in the near future where the line between humans and robots is blurring. And the plot follows the major sorry, the major who is a cyborg super soldier who investigates her past does that sound familiar. Robot person who investigates their past two resting telling me, a human brain in sort of into cyborg buddy, just repeating stuff. Just copy and paste my notes. No that is a different movie with Scarlett Johansson was not completely CGI is or what not just in like a I don't know unitards. But it stars Scarlett Johansson as major Mira Killian beat Takeshi Kitano as chief dice Akira mucky Michael Carmen pit as Tuesday who's kind of like the main Tagore's for much of the film. Okay. Also, this is a French name. And I'm going I'm going to struggle. But I know this guy by face, but not by name p p Lil Balu. You know what I don't? I'm not sure he Lou as as bake, not even French I might have been wrong. French doesn't have those those two little I don't know what you call the in the U and their switched together. Like that. Oh, no. I even judged the ethnicity of the name wrong. It could be just don't remember that in French. Okay. Well, Pilo as buck. Sorry, please to and he bought two I'm sorry. He plays to and this actor I recognize. On game of thrones. He's he was very good. He was actually probably my favorite. Well, I have a couple of paper characters and also Juliet been a change as Dr Novak that when I do know. Oh, thank you. Okay. So things I want to mention about this film. So in both films, there is really the effects. That's a really big part and a lot of that is because they're scifi films. They take place in the future. P is Danish. Oh, darn I'm so sorry. Lou. He's he's from Copenhagen Copenhagen. Well, I mean that wouldn't help you pronounce it. But it's not like my Danish. Any better? I got nothing on that one. Okay. So I really didn't do this film. They both have pretty good effects the city scape again of this film. It just reminds me of blade runner probably even more explicitly than alita did just there's like in blade runner in the original into the remakes. It's like this very very dark city. And there's like billboards that are moving and like giant Holland grams of like robot women who trying to to buy things it's so much like blade runner, the grittiness so much. So just robots running everywhere. Apparently the future is gritty, bro. Bot like billboards, and it's always raining. Greatness, dark robots billboards the pretty much. Yeah. Basically, and I guess again, I just feel like so many scifi movies just want to be blade runner in which I mean, I felt like I watched like, oh, yeah. Blade runner is super like, I don't know. It was really a trendsetter off guard of the time. I get it. But I think this movie is I think renders a little. Slow. This is not quite as slow, but we're gonna take a quick break. And then we'll be right back and keep talking about ghost in the shell. Tired of searching, the vast jungle of podcasts, listen close. And here this out. There's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searching, the Golden State media concepts podcast network is here. Nothing less than podcast bliss with endless hours of podcast covered for news, sports, music fashion, looking entertainment fantasy football and so much more. So stop blurted around and go straight out to the Golden State media concepts podcast network, guaranteed to fill that podcast is whatever it may be. Visit us at WWW dot M C podcast dot com. Follow us on Facebook and Twitter and download on itunes soundcloud and Google play. Welcome back to the movie podcast continuing the talk about the film ghost in the show. I want to clarify the actor that I said earlier blue he played year on grey joy in game of thrones continues to play him because he's one of the characters that is not dead yet. But I just wanted to say that because I know I know because game of thrones. And I can't can't not talk about it. But Thuan dimension. He is very good in this film. And I really enjoyed his character. I didn't actually recognize him as I as his role of game of thrones are just like I've seen that face before. But anyway, he did a good job. So I want to get in you talking about this film. Another thing about the effects as I mentioned how it had that like grittiness reminiscent of blade runner. Like, it was dark and rainy and the giant holographic billboards. I really felt that because of that it reminded me of a manga because I really get like a gritty feel dark like dirty. Like, bloody feeling that is exhibited in a lot of specifically shown in and say, non manga and those types of manga or like the action type of manga that are typically geared towards the male demographic. Which is I don't know, you might know other ones. Now, I can't think of one, but like Naruto is like considered like Shonen manga. It's the type where characters are fighting all the time and a lot of it focuses on storyline. But also there's violence and fighting and things like that. So I really felt like I read manga before. And I felt like this captured the feeling of grittiness, and I get that feeling kind of in American comics as well like ends with a marvel comics like this, greedy, very rough nature to it that I don't always feel in Hollywood marvel films. But I felt that grittiness more in this particular film. It reminded me more of the goodness of the manga. So I will say I really enjoyed that. Also in this film. There is a mix of special effects with like robots also just special effects with the actors and also costuming and makeup and all of that. And it's not just CGI. And I felt that that was really convincing for me. Like, the stunts were very convincing for me, mostly because it's not all CGI alita to me felt like so much CGI, and I kind of buy into it more when it's a mix of different effects. Like, there's like, okay. This person is clearly meant to also be robots like to be a robot. But some of that is conveyed by costumes and makeup, not just CGI robotic arm. And I think I just enjoy that more. And I think I I don't know. I just buy it. Looks more real to me than like litas is right. I can just see it being real more. Also want to mention Scarlett Johansson plays the major the main character. I did enjoy. She liked the way she walks as his care to a stiffness to it that really appears robot like, and she definitely has the physicality to play a role whether so much stunts so much fighting running gunshots. I really did enjoy that. But I can't mention this film or a leader for that matter without mentioning the whitewashing and sort of the controversy. I really remember this a lot with ghost in the shell. And like, I remember it more with ghost in the shell. Then. Like what I'm hearing now with alita, but there has been a lot of controversy because they say that this is based off of an anime based off of a manga the characters should be Asian their Asian in the original material. And yet the casting are actors who are not Asian, for example, obviously, Scarlett Johansson is not Asian right or the actress who plays alita is not Asian just like generally like in both films. I guess you could say the casters relatively diverse. I felt that mooring goes Michelle the character the actors are more diverse ethnicity. But again, the protagonist is someone who's white. I will I don't feel like I can wait too heavily on the subject, particularly with goes on the shell. Because I have not read the manga. So I know that in the manga the character like does go by major, but also has a Japanese name. So that would you would. Assume that that characters Japanese, and there are other characters in the manga that are clearly not Japanese that are like of a European descent and don't look like some of the other characters that are drawn to look Asian. I will say though, in terms of a lot of controversies where characters are in animated and mongo's, and then are sometimes portrayed by white actors and actresses I don't always feel that every character an anime or manga is Asian or is meant to be Asian. I have conflicting feelings because I feel that sometimes the animated drawing style is not meant to necessarily be Asian at least that's in my opinion. And I'm sure many people would disagree with me. There are some artists that when they draw characters do look like, oh, this person looks Asian this person doesn't look Asian. But particularly with this character, the character is kind of a cyborg so I feel a little bit like maybe not necessarily Asian, but. Again, it could be missing a major plot point here apologize. If I am. But personally again, I don't feel like every character. And may among is Asian. But that has also been controversy that has come up with a leader as well. Yeah. So it's something that unfortunately, will probably not be going away. I think they'll discontinue and also the controversy did kind of hurt goes on the shell at the box office. So that is curious to see Ann's girl at your Hanson is in hot water again because she will be protraying a transgender character in an upcoming film. So that controversy comes up again. Okay. Overall, I Wilson between the two films. I enjoyed ghost in the shell more. I liked the action more it felt like less of a kids film to me. It was a little bit grittier and more believable and between both films both films really show versions the future. That are rather just open just slightly different ways. And they both deal with the concept of human or robot and kind of the connection between memories. And what makes us human the continuous search for your memories and for your past? And if that really defies you if what you can remember really makes you human or not or potentially. I don't know makes you non-human makes you a robot. It's an interesting enough. I guess discussion that will be talked about again and again in more movies. I am sure these are just some ways to tell that story too. I don't know varying degrees of personal interest. Also of that. I thought was interesting is that in alita, the there's a need to enhance your body for survival and goes the shell there's not as much of a need as really a desire, and it's more that technology becomes available and because of that people want to enhance themselves. So it is a bit of a difference between need versus want. And the idea of what the future will hold whether we will need to enhance our bodies to survive, or if we will simply want to in order to keep progressing and some of the potential dangers that can possess to everyone involved. So they are interesting if if you're into Sifi, you might be interested or honestly, you could probably just read the manga or watch the anime ghost in the shell has other animated movies that are out. I believe the first ghost in the shell movie was very influential for the creators for the directors of the matrix. So it has been a big influence and other creative people's lives. I think mongo's can be really good. And I would suggest it. So I have enjoyed both these films. I will potentially watch goes Michelle again, I will probably not watch again or the sequel, but you might enjoy it and that brings us to the end of our show. Thank you so much for listening, and please tune into the next GMC movie podcast. To the Golden State media concepts movie, bud cast part of the Golden State media concepts podcast network. You can find this show and others like it at WWW dot Jesus MC podcast dot com. Download our podcast on itunes Stitcher sound clock and Google play. Just typing GS MC to find all the shows from the Golden State media concepts podcast network from movies to music, throw sports entertainment. And even we are us. You can also follow us on Twitter and on Facebook. Thank you. And we hope you have enjoyed today's approach.

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Love Your AI?

The BreakPoint Podcast

04:20 min | 1 year ago

Love Your AI?

"We may soon see a new organization PDA. I people for the ethical treatment of artificial intelligence and I'm only half joking for the Colson center. I'm John Stonestreet. This is breakpoint. The idea of sentient artificial intelligence, complete with a personality has long been a central theme of science fiction. The Oscar winning two thousand thirteen movie her starring walking Phoenix, and the voice of Scarlett Johansson, told the story of a relationship between a lonely man, and in a I named Samantha and on the small screen and robots are the stars of HBO's Westworld in fact, the protagonist of the series, Dolores and Maeve are scarcely distinguishable, if at all from the people who've repeatedly brutalized them since their creation, including in their own capacity, for tally, the biggest difference, is that the audience is intended to excuse or at least understand the robots brutality, which touches on another theme of science fiction. What are ethical obligations? If any to the intelligent machines that we build, considering that what's depicted in books, and on screen has been light-years more Vance than the current realities of artificial intelligence, such philosophical questions. Have remained in science fiction. Consider for exam. Apple that seventy years ago mathematician, Alan turing proposed. What's now called the turing test instead of answering the question can a machine, thank which presupposes an agreed upon definition of think the turing test seeks to determine how well, a machine can imitate a person, for example could machine full someone who was asking it a series of non scripted questions into thinking that it was a person what turing thought that a machine would eventually pass this test seventy years later. No machine has and the most optimistic estimates says it will at least take another decade. That's why a recent article in a on which suggests that artificial intelligence, should receive the same ethical and moral considerations. Afforded to laboratory animals. Seems to put it politely a bit. Premature one of the principal reasons that we feel a moral obligation to the animals in our care is that they can suffer. They can feel pain, and they can even let us know that a machine can do none of these things of a person kicks a dog. It will help and the person's cruelty will be made clear. Smasher MAC book because you're upset with Siri and the only one suffering is you since those things cost over a thousand dollars. In fact, anything we currently call artificial intelligence. It's far more like the software on our laptops. Then one of the host from west world as will likely be true for the indefinite future. So a better question to be asking is not what will we be doing to artificial intelligence? But instead, what will the A I we create due to us, it was this question that prompted a recent statement released by the ethics and religious liberty commission of the southern Baptist convention. There was entitled artificial intelligence and Evan Jellicoe statement of principles, the statement offers necessary guidelines to engage the challenges of AI before the technology becomes a fait accompli. I quickly signed my name to the statement while none of us know with any certainty. What direction this technology is gonna take, we do know what ethical principles should govern our creation and implementation of technologies like a I. Verson foremost. No technology should be assigned a level of human identity worth dignity or moral agency, only humans are created in the image of God, and we should never permit technology to subvert that exalted status machines will never be people. Now, you might be rolling your eyes that I'd even think it necessary to say that we must say it out loud and to each other for at least two reasons, I, there's much talk of a and other technology. Merging with human biology to create a new kind of species while that's definitely still the stuff of science fiction. Even discussing the possibility is the kind of subversion, the statement warns against and second on a personal level a I already threatens to replace real people in many of our lives artificial world artificial conversations, artificial friends, too often, distract us from real once and for some can even become replacements for real ones. It's worth repeating the damage. Our technology can do to us is far graver than anything. We can do. It and it's worth repeating machines are not people for breakpoint. I'm John Stonestreet.

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Shangela, Bob the Drag Queen and Eureka OHara

The Big Ticket with Marc Malkin

34:42 min | 9 months ago

Shangela, Bob the Drag Queen and Eureka OHara

"Hey there welcome to the variety and Iheart podcast the big ticket. I'm your host Mark Malcolm before we start today. Show I just WANNA. Thank everyone out there for listening because this week. It's happy birthday to the big ticket with Marc Malkin. We launched just a year ago and it has been quite a ride. It all started with I. Guess Scarlett Johansson Empty. Larsen and it's been an amazingly fun journey ever since without said. Let's get on with today's show. We have not one not two but three drag Queens. I've got Shangila. Eurico Hara and Bob the drag Queen, the three or co hosts of we're here. Here HBO's new. Reality Show which they traveled to small towns across the US to give drag makeovers to local residents. If you're anything like me, you'll not only be smiling, but also crying. My husband and I rushed the first three episodes, and we definitely shed some tears. Each had a lot to say about transforming lies with the power of drag what happened? Locals call the cops on them and how they feel about Cherry Pie being disqualified from this year's Ru Paul's drag race. After it was revealed, she was catfish, young men by pretending to be a casting director. It's all coming up after the break. Stick around. An it career at ddat means owning the opportunity to play a crucial role in transforming how agencies operate, join Gd it for challenging and impactful work that advances your career apply now at Gd, it dot com slash careers. Opportunity. Welcome back to the big ticket years. Shangila! Law. How are you love looking at a beautiful boats? Our have to still wear the bow ties even if How are you? Bobbing in the Times of Corona Yeah. How are you surviving? What are you doing? Good actually I'm okay I'm in. I'm in Paris Texas at my family's House here, so I fourteen again because I'm in the house, my mom and my grandmother. But it's cool. 'cause at the House that I actually surprised for. My Grandma bought her last August and I never. Live it yet, it was really sweet, but I've never gotten to limit it, so I'm like Oh. Cool so I actually just well. I can't claim if my mom helped me to paint this room. As you can see these walls, hunting there now used to be wider now keepsake rose. Wow. So even doing some core. Truly. Yeah Painted garage and I'm changing into fitness gym because I have not done anything fit since I got here on March eighteen, so. Was it was it a quick decision for you once you saw like we had to go into quarantine to Texas. Yeah I never made it back to Los Angeles after We'd last. We were going to try and film at episode in Spartanburg South Carolina for the show. For Way here, but when the corona pandemic started to really take arms HBO, a good decision that we should halt production and so I. I was going to go down to Puerto Vallarta to show that I was going to do Dan. They closed the Canadian border and I was like you know it's probably not a good idea to go to Mexico because it was just starting, the news was just starting to pick up about nine. What this was and how serious it was, and so I ended up hopping off the connection fly in Dallas which is our mom lives and I haven't left Texas. So. Tell me about the show. How did you get involved? I? Just have to tell you my husband. And I every. We've seen the first three episodes and just cry. We just hold onto each other and cry. Yeah it. Is You know all the fields? I think that the audience is GonNa, get where all the feels that we went through filming the show. Originally Win Johnny. Ingram and Steve Wariner creators brought the show to me and Bob and Eureka I immediately was like yes, because the concept about thirty three a bus travelling to small towns across America you know partnering with people who have these unique it amazing lgbtq stories, and then equipping them with the. The tools I. Never say it's. It's definitely not makeover show as you can say, it's moving them with the tools getting in their lives at working with them to be the best versions of themselves to reach gold, or during the wanted to do and do it through the power of drags, so that's when they said that I was like. Oh, I'm in because you know I grew up at a spots why I'm back here I'm in Paris. Right now where I grew up and it. Sorry. That's my mom trying to. She's trying to call you again. Sorry about that, thank you. That's okay, so you're from a small town, so know how these these people are dealing with. You know some big issues in those small towns. Yeah I'm very I'm not a stranger to send the challenges that are unique to people who are gay and living in a small town where you don't think that there is. Will you know that there not a visible community of support around you and sometimes you feel all alone, so that was I was a stranger to that. However, this show definitely reconnected me with the experiences of people today living in small town because what we found. Found were that sometimes the stereotypes that you have about a small town are not always accurate right, and so we found pockets of communities that were there for the support that some people didn't even know existed while at the same time realizing that there's also places of you know challenging and definitely people who don't think the same way that we do and don't have that same level of love and acceptance for the Lgbtq community. What do. Do you want people to get from? The show? ooh Well if he ever been a six flags side, you know to pull that bar tight and hold on when the rollercoaster start because this truly is a roller coaster of emotions, and what I really want people to take away from. This is something that I. Think Everyone I would hope needs right now. especially with all that we're going through in the world, that is the spirit of. Of humanity, compassion, kindness, and finding out that we're all not as different sometimes think we are, people may go. This is how it is in slots. How's that good? I'm outside or looking at, but what you find is that we all have those same sometimes feelings of you know I. Don't have as big of a community of support around me. I would love to dreams. I've always wanted to do this on stage, but I've never. Empowered or knew exactly how to do it. All those things I think people identify with I really just hope that people watch this with an open mind and get ready to go on the roller coaster. And as I mentioned, my husband and I cried a lot. Did you cry a lot? While you're making it all mark, you know. I'm not really a crier, but yes. I turned out to be Boohoo, fish okay. We think about the second episode and you know I. I know what I shot and I know what we shot together but I don't get to see what my other co hosts a work yard until we see a cut of the show right so when I saw Bob's relationship in with his drag daughters in episode to end the grandfather when I saw your Rica with. With her drag daughter in the first episode, and then even when I looked and saw some of the things I shall with mind that I didn't even remember moments I, was like it just starts. You swell with emotion, and then the next thing you know you've got all my gosh. Go let me just know and you start wiping tears because I think that. We all as humans have. A Lot, of, common! Feelings that connect us like a relationship with a grandparent or the lack thereof wishing you had a grandparent that was this in a way you know is just very special and yeah. I did cry. Were you ever scared? Though these are some small towns? Standing with Bob and you re. AM? Standing with Bob and Eureka. I have no reason when he's scared. We we liked Charlie's angels. Three of us together. Okay, what do you think when you hear people? I sort a lot on twitter, but people describe where here's HBO's answer to Queer Eye. I mean. I Love Queer Eye. I watched the show I'm friends with know job, Ted and Karama you know I know a lot of those guys over there to the Emmy Award. Winning Amazing Show I can't take nothing away from where I, but this is so not quit ride it. Let me tell you why. First of all I wanted to say this is not a makeover show at all. You've seen it. This is not a makeover show. This is US partnering with lgbtq people specifically who have queer or Queer Jason Stories who are in these small towns that want to be the best versions of themselves, and we have to partner with them to help them get there. That's one element. That's an emotional element of it in addition to that, we've got to produce a one night. Only drag show in sometimes places. That never had drag shows in places where people go hunting. It's not bull riding football I'm not into. And we have to combat. Come back that stigma about our. About our lives, really about who we are as professional drag Queens, and hopefully unearth a community of support in a place that might never had it before, or it's not been seen visibly, so that's I mean that's the true difference in this store in this show I. Don't mind being compared to queer eye, but we have. We are so not rewrite. So what's it like seeing? These local folks come out and crowd these these little auditorium and are just so excited to see your grand show. I was shot. Okay now. I can understand it was coming. You know the name was Shangila on the door. A BOB or you re right, but. Because I've traveled all over the world. You know I've done every continent except that article at this point in that might be next at the pingers book. But. Let me just tell you. Honestly it it was. It. was shocking to me because I felt you know. Walking around Gettysburg. Confederate flags, you know sometimes it felt. Almost like a goes China in some places. Didn't Latino Black people are high amounts of diversity so I'm like. Okay, nobody's coming to the show. I was like I was telling Bob at one point. We should put a lot of chairs. You know so that we have everyone right here and he's like well. They're gonNA block you know, the people are gonNA come up. They're going to be what about the people that are gonNa cry the side of the station chip as a Bob Baby. Sweet of you, but we don't people crowding the side of the studies a girl we're not in. and Lo and behold they proved for while wrong hunted, so I have to ask you about the new season of drag. Race. Cherry Pie. Do you think she can recover from this? Well, you know what the biggest thing about that is i. I mean I. Don't know Sherry never met her before but I will say that. The show, itself is a show that's all about. Joy laughter. You know it's a fun show. That's all we watch reports. Drag race, so I think that you know the producers. Everyone kind of did the right thing and how they've been able to to respond to everything that was going on, but I always believe in the spirit of inequality. You know I've always been a person with forgiveness in my heart and I again I. Don't know all the particulars of this particular situation. I never met cheery, but I will say that I I just know the resilience of the power of Drag Chow I hope that in a good effort that everyone takes ownership does the right thing and at the end of the day we continue to lead with love. Your Amazing Shangila thank you all your your mom and your grandma for me, I will. That wish Angela coming up after this break Eureka O'Hara. Find out what she has to say about feeling quite at home in Small Town USA plus she offers advice. First sparring drag Queens. I'll be right back. 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The amazing class of twenty twenty so choose firmly choose willfully and choose confidently listen to iheartradio new podcast commencement now on the iheartradio APP or wherever you get podcasts with a special Doritos Valedictorian episode where Doritos takes graduation speeches to another level by naming five Victorians, giving them each fifty thousand dollars in tuition assistance and sharing their speeches with the world. You are the ones that's GonNa make a difference. Welcome back to the big ticket. Here's Rika, O'Hara. How are you? Doing in quarantine. To make the days go by. Upgrading My, backyard. Out. Good for you man. So. Let's talk about where here. At such a great show, my husband and I watched the first thing episodes. We Cry Multiple Times. Burgers. It's. Because, it's really good it really. It's not contrived it's. It's really real it really is. Going to be. So, so tell me. How did it happen for you? Who called you? How did it all come together whoa honestly. There's this. Day Don't. It wasn't what I thought. You're. Like Hey guys that I know the industry numbers I. Give it to them. And I was like I'm. Steven Company Stephen, warn and I. was very out of about needing. signed. That was in for lives at Roosevelt. And I ran into. Zachary's things on my way in right away. I worked with him before. And it was weird. Needed language of. Wiring warrant I was like. He just wanted to meet with the show idea like he said whatever he wants to do, do it. The man doesn't do anything half ass. He's like. He's very influential. Industry Bob off, and so just 'cause like my friend was like. Hey, trust this guy. I loved the story of idea. I was kind of went with it with them. You know I was like well. Let's do it for all. Going to these small towns where whereas there were there any towns that you were really scared of going to? Because these are some small small towns. Yeah, you know honestly for me. I grew up in a very small town of in East Tennessee so and I actually like also went to school like ambig- Saga Virginia even smaller than Rabbi from Prime. You know so, I guess. For me. I wasn't really nervous about going to the small towns like anyone in particular, I never really got nervous until things happens. And person and there was. Pretty uncomfortable like people to call the COPS on as You know being. And very header normative environment See as heavy master. And Absentee. Let's say. When I went to. The. The Party of clipped like friends and family that performing up you know it was a lot of like people drinking and it was like backwards a lot me and you know the the some of them were very excited. That I was there, but there was also like a lot of people that were very supportive, so although I was nervous at first showing up. I was actually treated. Really Rally may have five which drink with them and everything. They kind of like Christians me, and it's like this one of the one of their people. You know so. It was the scariest moment probably ended up being one of the more exciting to so tell me about your favorite moments from the show. What what's the one moment that sticks out? RB honestly with probably being. My Favorite Mall I. Honestly think it's probably. It, probably just have to be December. You know working with her. She was just such a gem to work with Christopher's daughter and dislike the excitement that this young child had worked rag in general folks already because of white watching drags, and the fact that she was aware aware of what was and the culture and just like. How. How she was taught and ranked minded by her mother. You know it's things like that. That really warmed my heart because you know I truly believe in. The idea that discrimination can be fought by exposure. People fear what they gotta understand so right now. So it was just it was super. Super, slash not. Talk about also making over the gender, straight men or women for that matter. Why was that essential in this show? In the show, because dragons for everyone I think that kind of the message to, but it's also more about versus the drag are. It's more about involving everyone in the community. Basically showing how we're all related in our issues and the way we process them right, and how it doesn't matter your sexuality, you still just want to belong. You still want to find out who drop it as you still want to. You know, be yourself and be happy. Live your life without restriction from oil code. We've taught ourselves at the society that we have to live by riot so. If. Anyone has those strict rules as People more than anybody you know so. There's a struggle there that people forget, and they're also I think as is out to be teach you people as well look over one. We're thinking of allies things the the efforts that they really are taking. There's a much more strict of roles in place for people that aren't Hetero. Normative or straight, or you know whatever you WANNA call them, so it's nice to see Diab showing ally yet, but also exposing mix clearances bego through. Or so beautiful, working with Erica just because being the former angelic. You know very bigoted Christian type minded person whom blamed her commission on her religion and. Her uncomfortable on her religion. She used as a scapegoat it was it was nice to work with her at a point where she was passed out I'm but was also still trying to figure out that it was. It was more than just religion. You know what I mean. It was also just about state of mind and her being able to believe or accept it had nothing to do. With Dodd you know people people want to find things to blame the way they think or the way they feel on other things. You know what I mean. When in reality that might influence you, but the truth is, is we all make our own decisions on what we think how we act, and so on and so forth so you can try to say oh well. I was raised that way. I was raised that way to. You know I'm I'm raised baptist, but that doesn't mean. Walk around here, telling everybody to get baptized. How much did you cry during during the filming of the series? Oh my goodness. I am honestly across baby. Anyway. I was sensitive person. So Anytime anyone else cries. Extremely empathic so I cry. A Lot. Anyone her like their town. For Sweet Story I have to tear up. I just can't help. What your advice to a young person who wants to get into drag? What do? My advice is runaway. Stop what you're doing right now. Your nose in a book and get your ass clap. That's my advice. And then my other advice would be if you're wanting to get in drag for the right reasons that I'm all for. If it's because you want to be creative, or you know, you WanNa try to like, bring out aside yourself. You never saw just because you love it then. Yes, if it's because you wanna make money, or you want the attention Joa, you know. You're making so much money, aren't you? What you know, honestly I'm very blessed at this point in my career that now I can actually call it a career, but before drag race. It was it was a it was a a hobby that occasionally paid the wheels. but it took a lot of my time with money, so it's definitely something that like it takes time Ted, occasion, and Master your craft to really get. To the point of being able to make it a career. but as possible. You know what I'm saying, but it's just. It's not the easiest filled to work in. Fun. Question what's the One TV. Show you watch all the time and you never get bored of it. I'll my God. The one TV show honestly supernatural. I don't know. About them boys. And, fight all the mark or something plus I just loved. I also, it's kind of like for me. It's like supernatural and charmed and true blood, and like anything Kinda mystically magically lost girl. Supernatural and charms are very relatedness answer. I like those shows because every episode is kind of like. A different antagonist you know there's always like a new creature someone that they're fighting, so it's not something that you have to like necessarily watch corrupt, so you can kind of jump out and still enjoy. But also it changes it announced that keeps me interested and I love anything magical and. Now Awesome Eureka you're amazing. Thank you so much. That was Eurico. O'hara next up Bob the drag queen. He would cause what happened after the cops were called, Queens responded walking down the street in Branson Missouri plus he weighs in on Sheri Pie. Controversy will be right back. IHEART radio in state farm know that the graduation stage is the first of many, and while grads may not be walking across one this year. 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Here's Bob the drag queen. Are you. I'm great. How are you I'm GonNa you in Brooklyn? Where are you? I think I live in Brooklyn I. Have never lived in Brooklyn I live in Manhattan. Other Washington Heights okay. Okay, I'm mother Queens, but it's a common sense. Everyone goes. How's Brooklyn and I was like what is it? What is everyone thinks Brooklyn? I live in I. Live in Manhattan, but I used to live in Queens when I first moved here I lived in Queens. Actually okay, so let's talk about this fantastic show. We're here. We're here. We're here. You guys made us cry my goal I literally every episode. We'd be sitting on the couch and literally hold onto each other watch. I love making queer couples. Cry For me was probably. Before I got there scares. We were there I mean we got? The cops call called a three times in Branson. And I mean that's a slow week for me, but for seriously rica that must have been really scared by the way. What people call nine months Derek drag queens come on. You. Just like? This. Huge drag Queens there on the street and they just they just call the cops enough. I mean we got. We got the call for just standing in front of a store one-time. Got The cops called what we were looking for venues to perform. We got the cops called when we showed up to look for a venue we got the cops called us one. Time it twice when looking for venues. Yeah they? They just didn't like they were there, and they just call the cops on us. And we we. We beat him for the COP. Show we. We're on dirty. We didn't stick around long enough to see what would happen quite frankly so i. don't know what the cops were thing there. But Yeah? That's so Branson had that experience and I would love. Nervous engages burke to because there's just so many confederate flag everywhere and I'm not saying everyone who has a competitor flag is a danger, but when you're a black person, is not a comforting signed to see right and I saw in Branson to I. Think you went past like a looks like a t shirt shop, yeah! It, it wasn't that prevalent in Branson. When I tell you. They were everywhere in Gettysburg I want her to. SIT DOWN WITH MY, drag! And Gettysburg and you're a burger and there was a confederate flag in the Burger. I mean like. It is like they really which is weird because they're actually as far as the with Oh, the civil war goes there in the union, so I don't know why they're so obsessed with the confederate flags down there. They're like obsessed. What was one of your favorite moments from shooting was our particular episode or particular person you mad or worked with I? Think for me on SC was working with members of the Navajo Nation of ship, rock. That was really. That was in the episode about Farmington. Which you which? I don't think you've seen that one, but that that. This is one of my. It was one of the most rewarding experiences of my life when it comes to like helping someone curator performance that meant a lot to them and tell us a little bit about what can you tell us about? I can tell you that you know I. I was speaking to people from the Navajo nation in some people and they. Would you know we? We got together and I wanted to make sure that the performance for authentic to the performer, and also to the Navajo nation and we just. Because, there were so many the people helping our so hands on in helping like this number was not created by me by me in on. You know drag queens like indigenous drag queens and indigenous queers. All getting together to make this performance is so powerful. I can't wait to see and talk about in each episode. At least that I've seen. There's always assist gender straight person well. No one's perfect. No one's perfect. It was that an essential part. Is that an essential part of this? I. Don't know it's a syndrome in Burma. I don't work in casting but I mean what I'm most proud of this show is that is not a show. Go around and make straight people over like most of the people we work with our queer, and that really means a lot to me. You know what I mean. Why is that? I think we there are a lot of shows out there where we're queers, go around and make straight people's lives better. Which is what we've been doing for years. We're cutting. Your hair were teaching. Your kids were planning? Your weddings were teaching how to dance your theater teachers. You know what I mean. And this is more so a documentary that highlights where people in small towns which is important, because sometimes people forget that that are people small towns. What do you want people to get from the show P viewers? Where do you want viewers? Well, I. Just hope that they to be honest I. Hope that they. Get a chance to to genuinely see and hear these stories of the people that were working with. I don't know there's an over lining like everyone learns to love themselves. I mean everyone's GonNa. Get something different from this show. You're going to get what you need from this. What was it like also seeing? The people come out for the drag shows. Like these people into what it wasn't a big shock to me, I mean I've been traveling around doing drag because everywhere from here, it said. You know to Australia so it's not a shock for me to see people. Come out and see a drag show in a small community. But it certainly rewarding. and which episodes did you cry the most at? Which I, literally cried an episode to Onscreen. Cry Always makes me cry. Right look at sad clown of their crowns. A, sad sad. It's good. You GotTa motion. You gotTa feel it. I listened drag Queens or a lot like human beings I have a lot of emotions that normal people have a lot of not all of them. So. What's your advice to someone who wants to start doing drag? What do you tell them Oh just do it? If you wanted to drag, do it I mean I. I didn't have a drag mom I started to drag I just looked on YouTube. You can learn you learn how to build a grandfather clock on Youtube, so you can certainly learn how to do drag you know in the scheme of your life. Where does being crowned? America's not stop huge drag world drag queen. Where does that fall in the scheme of Your Life I? mean is pivotal I mean like imagine. Imagine! You're on Google insular sharp right turn. That's how pivotal it is. It's like. My life completely changed. It catapulted me into an on an international stage, and they gave me a much larger voice so I would say is one of biggest moment of my life for sure. Do you still have one of the proudest? Do you still have one hundred thousand dollars? I mean I. Put it this way. I'm very good at saving money. and I never I got one hundred dollars but I. Immediately gave forty thousand to taxes, so. I never fully had the full one. Hundred had had the four hundred a couple of months, and then when taxes came around I gave up forty percent of it because I am a law abiding citizen. So. What do you think about the host? Cherry? Pie thing should sherry by not take part in the finale. Call disqualifying her was the right call and I feel really deeply for the Queen's. Who are on the season because they'll always be associated with that right, do you think is redemption for the well that's for? That's for individuals to decide. I mean. Maybe there's redemption for some people, but for some people probably won't be I. I don't think she'll be able to recover from this as far as drag I think. In my opinion, her records probably not going to recover from this. Wow. and. What are you doing when you're in quarantine? I've been making a lot of content with all the things. Like the phase where I was like I'm working on my body. I'm working out. I'm stretching then went. The is the apartment I'M GONNA clean. Clean clean clean that I went to the face while like. It's my job I gonNA. Make make content I'm going to start a new show off. Thank you so much. This is wonderful. It's my pleasure. Thanks for having me awesome. She assumed take care of. Bat was Bob to drag Queen. We're here premiers on HBO Tonight April Twenty Third Thanks for listening the big ticket. I'll be back next week with another star studded lineup including Rose Byrne talking about her work. Gloria Steinem, the new fx series and Mrs America be safe. Be well. I'll see you next time. Here's something. Good is a new show from the Seneca Women podcast network and iheartradio. Each day. We aspire to bring you the good news. The silver lining the glass half full because there is good happening the world everywhere every day. We just need to look for and share it. Here's something good? A short daily show that offers positive stories, helpful suggestions and shared experiences to inform and inspire you every day. 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Midge Costin Is 'Making Waves'

The Frame

16:47 min | 1 year ago

Midge Costin Is 'Making Waves'

"Henze rebel Wilson Stephen Merchant Alfie Allen now playing in select feeders from the broadcast center at KP podcasting supported by Fox searchlight presenting Joe Joe Rabbit an antiwar satire directed by Tyco YTD starring Scarlett Johansson Sam Rockwell Thomas in me I sense gets plugged in six months seven months into the womb. It's hearing the mother's heartbeat it's hearing her breathing is hearing dad shouting from the garage it's making sense of the world shade we can say all that stuff but when it comes to sound if I it's like lizard brain before we were worn you're looking at darkness sound is the first film scoring is that you know when it's wrong but if you and your colleagues have done their job right we may not really notice what you've done correct unsound music and score all come together to make you feel something when you're out the movies the documentary directed by Midge Causton she got her start fifth grade for Christmas so you were always listening to things in a different way one of the things that I think is true about sound design and sometimes now I have no idea what's being done if it's really really great or really really bad I might I've got go back and listen because here's the deal if it's it's not sound like the effects and ambience you're hearing now from the first matrix movie making waves the art of cinematic sound explores the way that affects dialogue Ambi Oy in some ways it's invisible but in many ways it's not and do you think most people understand or appreciate outside of the business ordinary movie goers what is that it's easy to think of film as a visual art form but a new documentary employers you not to forget about the importance of sound Walter Merger talks about this that it's it's how we perceive sowed we don't for some reason we know vision like we know that we're being affected like we call her lights inventive and did a lot with sound because he came from radio I now the other the other reason why people don't know is it an it's how we start the movie how on design can bring to a film no that's why I did the movie because when I got into sound I realized how much we're bringing to it now I worked on the big action adventure movies it allowed us in it's like it's killing us but it works against us in the sense that were invisible to people and they don't know how how important sound is but it works in our favor for because we get to do all these things it sounds negative to say manipulate but to affect the audience and you don't like I go to movies and people say oh it must ruined movies for you on sake it sound with picture and even here this is different what we're doing with the Rio it sound it's all sound ness by Orson Welles like legit was real in filmmaking as a picture editor but after a couple of jobs in sound editing she was hooked man I was just into it and I love to and then I realize after because all these people that I interviewed for the film a lot of them got reel to reel tape recorders and played with that when they were young in the fifth grade I got a reel to reel tape recorder

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Paul Dechant on Lost in Translation

Movie Crush

1:11:51 hr | 2 years ago

Paul Dechant on Lost in Translation

"Hey, everyone. It's finally over and complete all ten episodes of the addictive eye opening mind-bending podcast series, the end of the world with my buddy. Josh clark. I just throw in my buddy. It's ready for you to binge everyone. It's all out there in the world. Alternate episodes, really deep Hetty stuff. I'm very proud of my my partner in crime writ stuff, you should know for creating and really pulling off this podcast all on his lonesome. He did a great job everyone. It's called the end of the world with Josh Clark. And check it out benge all ten episodes right now. Listen and subscribe at apple podcast or on the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hey, everybody. Welcome to movie crush Friday interview edition, Chuck here, and I'm singing so that means I enjoyed this episode quite a bit. Actually, that's not what that means. Because never sing. And I've loved all the episodes. But just trust me. This is a good one. I had Paul from the office in Paul Deccan is one of the great editor ingineers producers here that works with us. He's been around this for a long time back when we were still doing videos what Paul did because he's a filmmaker at heart and works than the visual, medium more. But like the rest of the crew they saw the writing on the wall and started doing podcasts. So they could keep their job and the policy filmmaker he's actually finishing up his movie right now that he's been making for awhile. On the sly in guerrilla style. As an indie filmmaker a lot of respect for Paul for doing that, very very cool to see Paul and the rest of the staff who I used to think of is just kids. But honestly, they're all big grownups now. And it's happened right before my very eyes and policies the nicest guy, someone who's taste. I really think a lot of. And that's why Essen to be on the show and he picked lost in. Translation, the Sofia Coppola dare I say new classic, which is also one of my favorite movies. So it was a great pleasure to talk to Paul, and I think you're gonna enjoy yourselves. So here we go with Paul deck and on lost in translation. I watched this last night for the. Like tenth time, maybe more. Yeah. Fucking love this movie me too. I've I've probably seen it about ten or twelve times. Yeah. It had been a minute for me, though is when Emily's favorites do so she was all in last night. She had watched it more recently than me. But it occurred to me that I don't think I've seen this since I had my kid because got really like moved when he was. And we'll, you know, this is jumping way ahead, but like in that scene where they're laying in bed together. And he's talking about having children. And how they grow up, you know, all of a sudden, they're the most alight full people you've ever met or whatever. Now, I like fucking broke down. It's like, wait a minute. I haven't seen this since I have ruby. Yeah. And that that's probably one of the best scenes in the so good. Well, it's it's interesting to the that very for shot of the movie of Scarlett Johansson, but. What a way to open this movie. Yeah. It's so I do wanna talk about that shot actually because. Yeah, it's it's a very bold way to open a movie, and yet it's also a very subtle shot. I think. Uh-huh. And in doing some research on it. I read that Sofia Coppola director Coppola was inspired by this artist named John case air who paints. If you Google basically all the images that come up are paintings of of women the butts in lingerie. But it's interesting because those images are very sexualize d- his intentionally whereas the the shot that opens the movie. Yeah, is somehow I don't know if it's completely de sexualize. But it doesn't feel that. That's the intent it feels much more like intimate and just like you're seeing just somebody laying in their underwear yet. And she's also kind of it's a beautiful shot. And then sounds so creepy, but has nothing to do with the, but she's also setting up sort of a color palette there. I think yes. Because that same pink kinda comes in a lot throughout the movie most notably that I can remember when she's built those Mobile's in her room. Yeah. Hotel room, zinc. Yeah. Yeah. Because everything is so. Cold in sort of stark in that hotel. Like there's been to a couple of high end hotels that are just so unwelcoming and feel like that really served this movie to have them sort of in this expensive prison almost that's a good way to and she's doing everything she can Scarlett Johansson or Charlotte. I guess to try and bring a little color into that like white room. Yeah. I think one of my favorite things about Sephiha Coppola this movie in her others is her use of color and color, palettes visual aesthetics, and she has a great I for, but one other interesting sort of anecdote about that shot of Scarlett Johansson, but in interviews Sofia Coppola said when they were shooting that that Scarlett Johansson was very apprehensive about doing that shot and Sufia Coppola said to her I'm going to try these under this pair of underwear and kind of lay there. And afterwards if you still feel uncomfortable. We we won't do the shot. Yeah. So Sephiha Coppola tried them on in model them in front of scars Hanson, and after that Scarlett was like, okay, I'll do it. And that's just I think points to something about this being a movie from directed by woman. Right. Who if obviously if the man directed at you probably wouldn't have that sort of via it would certainly probably, you know, get crushed released today. Absolutely. We'll talk about some of that stuff to obviously. And you know, it goes, right? Her use of music. You know, we'll talk about for sure. But that very first music Hugh of death in Vegas when he's is such an efficient setup. I've talked a lot on the show about efficiency of setup of character. And plot in motivations. And this is one of the best Mike almost dialogue, or at least exposition free setups in that I like five or six minutes, you know, everything you need to know about both of them. Yeah. Because he's bored in this cab stranger in a strange land. He's getting it feels like almost assaulted by all these people welcoming him, and he's being very kind, but you can tell these men out of place he's taller than everyone the showers too low and then her with with Giovanni Ribisi, aka spike Jones, supposedly, I, and I think Giovanni bees may be the unsung. And the this movie. He's good so good. It's kind of that. He's not a rose. He's not a total asshole. But he's just kind of the. Yeah. I don't know. What is it? My brother used to call those guys LA guys. There was a name that used to to save for something that they used to say a lot like how you doing or something like that? I can't remember. But he's one of those guys and the way he's and we'll get to the scenes where he's just like Pauling all over her and just and she's grossed out by him. And and then the way he's like, I gotta go go like scattered like, the scattered artists ever totally. But you know, everything about both of them like she's lost. They're both lost. And I was really hit me last night. Even though seeing this movie so many times to when I watch them for these shows, you really study it. It's interesting how they're the same. They're the same place in life at different stages in life, like she's young and doesn't know what she wants to do. And he is hit that point where he's been through his whole career. And now he feels stuck in doesn't know what to do. Absolutely. And I think watching it this time for me every time I watched this. I always sort of. I get nervous. And I'm like is this going to hold up is this going to be as good as I always remembered it is. Yeah. But what what stood out to me watching it? This time was how one of the big themes of this movie is just being stuck in a marriage for both of them. Like, you said at different points in how they kind of both can relate to that. And they kind of get something from each other in their brief week in Tokyo. Yeah. And I like to think that maybe after their time together, they kind of go back to their lives. And maybe it's like they've recharge their batteries a little bit. Yeah. And maybe things will be a little bit better in their marriage. I don't know maybe a little too often mystic. But well, we'll certainly unpack. Like what happens after they embrace at the end is this is one of those movies where it's not just like, oh, well that's over like you can't help. But think about these characters and they're stuck nece. And she even says literally in that in that same scene at the end. She literally says out loud. I'm. I'm stuck. Yeah. And I remember her saying that last night it was like my God. That's the whole movie right there. Yeah. If she stuck and Emily, I had a great not debate. But just discussion over whether. Like how much she loves her husband or like does she want to leave him in her contention? Is that like, yes, she does love him. But it feels like all of a sudden she doesn't know who he is. Yeah. I I would agree with that. And I think. She's hoping to sort of. Get something more from him. Especially in this time in Tokyo. And he's not giving it then, of course, when Anna fair is ditsy movie star interested picture AKA. Cameron Diaz right? Yes. Yes. That just pulls her pulls him further away from her, and you can see there's a great scene where he's about to run out of the hotel room to go to work where he gives her this kiss kinda just like meant to be just like later, babe. But the way she sort of latches on and just wants that intimacy ah, you can tell she's really at a crossroads with not knowing where she's gonna go with this marriage. Yeah. In marriage in feel like. So what does she have a philosophy degree? We like, what do we actually know about her? She has a philosophy degree and she's not working. She's not working. She says she grew up in New York. Okay. And that she moved to LA when they heard John her husband got married. Okay. On how she feels when she's laying in the bed with Bill Murray. Right. He asks. Where'd you grow up and always so much happens in that scene? A lot of a lot of actually exposition. You don't even think about because it's done so. Well, but yeah. So she lives in L A now, and she's not really an L A person. Like, her husband is right. She's much more of that sort of east Coast's academic. Maybe is the way I kinda read saying, well, she went to Yale, right? Yeah. She went to yell because he takes a dig at her. Not everybody went to Yale. You know? Yeah. Like, everyone feel so stupid and in that scene. Like, he he actually kind of has a point. Now, he totally like, you know, we're not totally on her side there. Right. She is kind of sort of turning up her nose at the at somebody who's not as smart as her yet. But she also you also sort of get it. Oh, yeah. It's a very subtle film. I think in like there are many ways to read it in a loved that. She doesn't I just think so FIA Copeland. Great. I know she gets a lot of shit from people, and I'd never have quite gotten that. Because I've of love dollar movies. Loved virgin suicides. Yes. Loved this loved marie-antoinette. Yeah. Loved somewhere me to liked blinkering allot. That's probably my least favorite. But I've only seen it. Once. I want to revisit it because we were saying that last night we need to see that movie. Again. Did you see the beguiled? I did that's probably my least favorite. I like what she did there. But I know that movie is problematic for lotteries too. Right. Yeah. So it's hard to bring that in there. I don't know, man. I think she's great. She went a best screenplay award for this. Yeah. It was nominated for director in picture too. And yes and Bill Murray. At the Oscars nominated for best actor, right? Didn't win on that. You're actually look this up. It was Sean Penn for cold mountain. I think cold mountain is that right or no sorry. Mystic river. I it's either cold mountain or Mr. over, which I I haven't seen. So I don't have you Mr. rivers. Great, and Sean Penn's, always great. I don't know the Bill Murray. So good in that this is the role of his career in a career. That's had many great role yet. It feels like this is him in a lot of ways. Like, especially in that, you know, again that bedroom scene where he's talking about his marriage now used to be fun. And then the kids came and she doesn't come around to set any more. And like, I know the Bill Murray has had a lot of regrets in real life as like a working father. That's been away for too long. And it's hard not to think. But it's probably some Soviet in there too. You know? Yeah. He's definitely bring a lot of himself to that to the role into that scene in particular. Yeah. And the choice to make the choice to make the reason. He's there a big actor doing Japanese commercial is just perfect. So we know what that means. Yeah. It's it's great. I I was just reading about this about the idea of American celebrities or actors doing ad- advertisements in other countries. Japan and other countries in Asia, it's huge it's huge. And especially back in the day. You'd see this a lot because they didn't want to do these campaigns in America because they were worried about it would hurt their image or the it'd be seen as selling out, but they could go to Japan and do it. Nobody would ever see it people in Japan. And so it's so great, you know, loonies done at red bits pits done it. So I've been Japan a couple of times last time. I was there. I saw Tommy Lee Jones his face everywhere. No way. And he was doing this ad campaign for it was called boss, and it was the sort of canned coffee that you would see in vending machines and stuff. And you see just see Tommy Lee Jones face on all these vending machines. And it was just like what millions of dollars for that. And also the budgets for these ad campaigns Japan, huge when when Bill Murray says in the movie, I'm getting paid two million dollars Dorsey whiskey. That's not unrealistic pay him that much no shit that might be on the low side. Yeah. Yeah. Totally where did you go in Japan? So I've been to Japan three times, actually. And that's great. The main reason is because my older brother lived there for five years. And so he he was teaching English in Japan. And so I went and visited him couple times. And so I've I've kind of been all over I've been to Tokyo Kyoto hero, Shema Asaka Nagasaki amazing. It's great. I love. I would go back in a heartbeat. Yeah. It's interesting toke. Keo is great. But I actually love all the other areas of Japan. More Kyoto's awesome iota is beautiful. It was the ancient capital of Japan before Tokyo and Tokyo is great. But it's also kind of just like another gigantic city that being said though in Los in translation, I love the way. She shoots Tokyo. Yeah. Just that probably seeing that movie when I was younger made me want to go to Japan more than anything. Yeah. I mean, there's so many beautiful shots of the city. And it's interesting that feel like he he's in that hotel. He's hotel bound until he meets her. He's not going out. He's going to the pool he's going to the bar every night doing various obligations, but when he meets her the world literally opens up, and they go out, and they have the big fun night. Yeah. Which we'll go over in detail for sure later, but she's out in about she's going on her adventures. She is making an effort to sort of. Yes. See city a little bit. It's her journey. I feel like though, I feel like she. She's she's not just sight seeing you know, it feels bigger than that. Absolutely. And she even says, you know, I went to this shrine today. And there's the amongst chanting, and I didn't feel anything. And I think she's is that when she breaks down and cries on the phone with her from home. Yeah. It's a great scene. But she's definitely trying to get something out of this trip. Yeah. For herself. Yeah. Absolutely. And then, you know, it's just such a funny movie to like it's easy to overlook twenty scenes like within Tory commercial in this in Tori, photo shoot. I'm just so funny, man. Yeah. So great that director when he's go off for like a minute straight. And she'll be like, you know, the translator will say like, you know, more intensity. And he's like what is that? All he said because it feels like he sang a lot more than that. Yeah. It's the way calls action and camera rolling everything screaming at this is so good. It's great because you know, if you can look online what the translation of what the directors really hangs people have. Translated it and. But basically, it's a very real situation. Because the there's the interpreter who's translating for for Bill Murray, and for the director, and the way she sort of asking Bill Murray's questions to director is in this, very polite, very formal way. Which is why the sentences get sound five times as long and so Bill Murray's question might be shy turn from the left or to the right. All she's probably asking the director. You know, Mr. Bob Harris has a question for you. Like to know if you think it would be better for him to turn for the left or from the right? And what do you think is the best something like that just draw, you know, just Murray so funny in that scene like so much. I didn't I didn't do a ton of research on this on the background. But about what was improv, and what wasn't you sort of feel it when it's happening? I think in the movie, yes, obviously, the the hospital waiting room scene. Yeah. You know, our improv. Oh, totally. But Emily last night was like cheap her foot in real life. She's like a bitch anything she got really got hurt and they decided to shoot all this hospital stuff. And it was like I bet that was an all made up that. So I can speak to this a little bit. I've read the script actually. You can find it online. Yeah. Google it. The script is a very loose script compared to most film scripts. The toll thing where she hurts her tail is in the script. Okay. But many of the scenes in the script there might be one or two scripted lines of dialogue. And then in the in the actual movie, you can tell Bill Murray, especially just riffing. Yeah. But there's other scenes where it's great. We're in the script like when they go eat, they go eat sushi and the line in the scripture says the sushi he makes her laugh, right? And then Bill Murray why script too much like him and a write jokes for him. Yeah. And and Sophy Coppola said she wrote the part for Bill Murray. Yeah. And she wouldn't have made the movie if he wasn't going to agree to do it right, which I mean. Yeah. You can't imagine anyone else in this role. No. Of course, not for those of you listening that don't know this. It's I'm sure you know, this but Bill Murray, very famously does not have an agent. And the way he works is. There is a phone number. I don't even know what to cell phone number. I get landline. I read somewhere it's like an eight hundred number. It is some some phone number, and it's not even widely distributed. So I to even get this phone number. It's tough. And then you call this number, and you leave a message saying what you who you are. And what the project this is. And Bill Murray, here's that and makes a decision whether or not to call you back, and that is how he fucking works. And that's a very how great is that north docks way of working like how great is that? Yeah. And and so for this movie, I read that Sofia Coppola tried to track him down. She called the number couldn't track him down. Eventually, she enlisted. And this is granted this was back, then, but it still for instance. We're couples daughter, right. Yeah. She's connected. Yeah. Exactly. Eventually, she enlisted Wes Anderson to help her Wes who had at this point directed Murray and Rushmore Tenenbaum. Yeah. So they they would probably. Good friends and eventually through this through him through something. She tracked him down. Right. She met him. She pitched him on the movie. Yeah. And he agreed to do the movie, but he never signed a contract. So he just gave her like, I think I heard a gentlemen's agreement saying I'll do it will be there. And in fact, they didn't know if he was gonna show up. He like landed in Tokyo, and I I read somewhere that Coppola was freaking out about this. And she talked to Anderson and west basically calmed down and said, he'll be they'll says, he'll do it, man. Which is just great. Yeah. That's pretty great, man. Most serial killers don't make any effort to involve the media or investigators. They're very secretive. They don't want tension. They almost want their crimes to go unnoticed, but the idea of committing a crime, and then calling the police and bragging about it. That's a whole 'nother level of terror. 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Stationary, Lydia Harrison has a picture of that optical illusion of the old lady young lady of like, which is it and that's her stationary, which so let's such a beautiful little minute touch like art direction on this movie have created. But anyway, he's getting these these carpet samples and shit or tile samples in the mail in these decisions he has to make and it really just sort of for some reason makes that disconnec-. Act so much more real and mundane. And then you know, he, and I have Emily Shire superconducting, but like when I was in Australia. It's hard to not feel like you feel further away. Absolutely. Especially the time different times it profitable to really communicate because he comes home like drunk from that night out. And she very specifically mentioned breakfast. Yeah. She's feeding the kid breakfast. And I've been there and known that like fuck, man. I'm having a hard time connecting with Emily from Australia. Yeah. Because I'm having this big adventure. She's at home with with ruby. And we're tight, and it was still like something we had to overcome in, you know, it's just for a week and a half. But like, you really felt that in this marriage that you know, he has talk when he's drunk about the tile. It's so like, it's a satisfied in the movie. I think yeah. You know, the burgundy win you're just so right? Like wouldn't even close. He's. Like falling asleep wrong. It's so sad. He's like, I was listening to the great music. I gotta find out what that music was when I was out tonight. I wanna start eating more like Japanese. And then she's just like the glad you're having a good time. Yeah. Such a sad scene. And you know, I in some respects were meant to sort of empathize with with Bob journo. And she's just like he couldn't care less about the color of the tile and other stuff. But it doesn't put us in tireless on his side. Because like you get why his wife is. Yeah. Is feeling that way. Like, you're off. I have to I have to stay here and do the work. Yeah. And you get to go off gallivanting to another country and talk about how it's changing you and you want to eat healthier. And it's he's going out with this young girl. Yeah. Like, we'll we'll get into the sexuality or lack of. Yeah. Well, fuck let's talk about it. Now. I talked a lot about it. Yeah. And I think that maybe what the movie's about and wanna ways. So for me, rewatching it the other night. The biggest thing that's out to me. Maybe was it's a lot less platonic than I remembered in the sense that the lot of I think a lot of sexual tension there, obviously, they don't act on it. What do you think? Man. I was going back and forth. Like we. I think we both agreed that their friendship was what mattered to them. Sure. Yeah. And like, I don't think anyone in the audience was like, oh like they're gonna bone right? Yeah. It's grossed even think about I think because they they seem like they needed each other as friends. But watching it agree like watching it last night. It was way more flirty than I remember. I don't know man it landed somewhere between like father daughter, and it never felt predatory. No, he's always very respectful. Yeah. But in two thousand eighteen it's a different lens than two thousand four. Yes. Sure of a man in power. I don't know, man. I think the kissed yet a kiss. I think for me. It's there they they seem to both realize that there's a little unspoken tension, but they both sort of have made this decision that they're not going to. Yeah. To let it go any further than that. I agree and the movie and the relationship is all the better for it. And I think they probably feel better as people for it. Yeah. There. We're not going to be like everyone else who might be in the situation. Yeah. It took a change like it's feels very platonic until he sleeps with the lounge singer. Right. And then from that moment on she's clearly little jealous and treats him a little differently, and they had that horrible lunch together. But then it was almost like their first little fight. And then later that day they see each other. Oh, no at the fire alarm fire alarm goes off, and she's just like that lunch bad lunch. Which is a great way to reconcile. They both kind of silly. It seemed like there was an understanding their of like, yeah, you were kind of jealous and he was a bit embarrassed. I think sure having into shamed of having slept with that. Alerts flunking wakes up and he hears her singing midnight at the. Spring perfume and shit. It's so great. But just just to one other thought on that is after they sort of reconcile and they're hanging out at the bar that night, and they say they don't want the night to end. And then they're in the elevator together. And he's gonna go to his room. She's gonna go to her room and the elevator stops the doors open. And they give each other that sort of polite kiss. Yes. To be on the cheek, but it's very close to the lip, and you both you can very much sense that they are very aware of what's like of how that kiss is going down. And of course, they take so long that the door shut and MRs floor, right? And then they opened for her floor, and they kind of repeat the polite kiss. So yeah, I would I would I would argue that there's definitely some tension there yet. And it's even if that is what it's about like that that's real and those sexual politics palpable in real life. The age disparity is what makes it a thing. I don't know, man. I it's it's a movie that and that's what I love about. It is every time you see it. You can kind of think something different about it. Yeah. And I think it kind of it lives and some of those ambiguities for sure of not just if their sexual tension or not, but just everything about the movie kind of losing that and big use area where you can you can read into it. What you want? Yeah. Based on what you're bringing to the film. Yeah. But even even with the mcginnity, there's even seen it again last night. There was never a feeling of like, oh, well, this is a Hollywood star. That is looking to move on this young girl. No, no, I agree. And you know, especially the way they. Sort of I have a real conversation down at the bar where he's their drinking. He can't sleep. She comes down. And she sits next to him when they first meet when they first have their first convert thirty minutes in men that I yeah. Plot point love the that three extra. Sure. So great always look at my watch. I'm like. Yep. Thirty minutes, but it's great to because that's their first conversation, and it never feels this. Specially there there's nothing beyond just sort of them commiserating about feeling out of place in non able to sleep and that way, you can sort of especially when you're traveling. I feel like it's easy to really connect with a stranger because you're both for sure situation you're not used to and it's easy to sort of open up to somebody. Don't know. Yeah. Yeah. And especially with them being in Japan like this would have been a different movie than if they were LA people just in New York for the week. I've -solutely the the setting was so key and Sophy Coppola to me. So like. She's one of the masters at voting a tone feeling of a place without dialogue in Edison. And I think a lot of her. I think a lot of talents as a filmmaker. I think she's not very obvious. No. Yeah. It's it's really funny. The way you said that because in my little notes here. I wrote Coppola is a master at capturing a mood. That's exactly what I wrote. Well, hey, we're both right then. Yes. Well, we talk about funny scenes, a little more another great scene, and these funny scenes don't advance a story. I think they're just in there to sort of again stranger in a strange land when they when that I guess, she's a sex worker or a masseuse. Yes. She was sitting there by somebody to please him. Yeah. I cheat. His find him. I think she was sent there by maybe one of the the the client. I think so. Yeah. It's meant I I don't know how that experience is meant to play out. If it's I don't know if she's actually meant to sleep with the guy sort of give him a sort of sensual massage and flirt with him or what? And that was such a weirdly specific thing that made me think that that Sophie coupla heard that story or maybe Bill Murray told a story about it or something. Yeah. There were a couple of scenes like that. It was like this is probably happened. Yeah. A lot of it. Feels like it's based on real experience your severe Coppola or stuff. She heard or right or maybe stuff from her dad because sure there I I've I've read that some of this stuff was based on we'll even just going to Japan to shoot some Tory whiskey at I believe Francis Ford Coppola, maybe did that really. Yeah. But that seen it makes me laugh, but it is one of those scenes where. It's a little uncomfortable the whole my socking thing. Yeah. In and we'll get into this as well. But sort of bullets talk about it. Now. Let's talk about. Yeah. The this movie is problematic in some ways, it is problematic and it when it came out. It was a pretty big hit with American critics a lot of the Japanese critics did not like the movie because of the way portrayed the Japanese characters in that they argued that, you know, very stereotype maybe at best stereotypical and at worst flat out racist. Yeah. I mean, there is a thing of like the far east being weird and exotic and crazy, and they're like, no, it's just us in the way, we live, right? And you shouldn't look at everything through western is. We're not weird because we eat these things that you think are strange like that's an American way of looking at things absolutely yet. And and other writers critics in the year sense have written American critics to have written about how about these. Problematic aspects. So it's it's very much there. I would never sort of disagree with somebody who. Yeah, brought this up think it's valid criticism criticism of the movie. Yeah. And I think, you know, in some sense, the film is from the point of view of Bob and Charlotte and their experience. And so there is some truth to the idea the culture shock that they're experiencing where everything feels so different. Yeah. And I think that's a very valid thing. Especially going to a country. That's so different like Japan. But where I think the movie may be falters a little bit is that it never sort of critiques that worldview, and it never sort of separates it self from that, very specific point of view. Yeah. Where it never sort of relatives. There the way that the fact that they're looking at this country through western eyes on and maybe you know, how do the Japanese feel about these westerners coming the Cup? Right. You know? Yeah. But also like now that I think about it. It's not like she goes off on all these adventures to all these beautiful, peaceful places in such first of all just such a great contrast as filmmaker between that in the city, the gorgeous, slow, quiet, peaceful things that she does. But she never comes back in like this thing so fucked up it was so weird. And they were like like feel like she's there's a lot of reverence on her part sharia and genuine interest. So it doesn't feel like she's. Doesn't feel like she's like this this place is so strange. I feel like she kinda loves it in some ways. Yeah. And I would I would argue that there's nothing sort of militias in the film. Yeah. From agree. So few COPA like it's clear that you know, Coppola had had been Japan many times in a lot of this was based on her experiences in Japan parts of the field love letter to Japan. Absolutely. Yeah. But it is true. That you know, these two characters are only in Tokyo for a week, and they're never gonna get more than sort of tourists impression of Tokyo and Japan ever surface level. Yeah. But I would also argue that, you know, the criticisms about the way the the movie portrays the Japanese people again valid criticisms. But I also think it's important to remember that film. It's a visual medium, and so much of the argument Coppola is making here is through visuals. And and so the movie. Shoots Tokyo and such a loving way. And I think especially the those scenes where they have their night out. Yeah. Where they go to the party with a sing karaoke sucre. And suddenly, the city seems transformed because suddenly Bob and Charlotte are opening themselves up to the city. Yeah. Yeah. And for the first time together, and it's so vital in like, energetic and real. Yeah. And so, you know, it's the movie sort of opens itself up then because the characters are opening themselves up to Tokyo, right? And so suddenly, the the city that felt co cold and oppressive feels warm and welcoming, and yeah, a place they kind of fall in love with. Yeah. And if you think about it the only way that happens is through the locals, Mike she meets up with their friends in her husband's friends. Yeah. And have like this great experience in anyone who's ever had a one of those great long nights out. Yes. In a city that you've never been to with people. So you've never hung out with like have had those nights where you go to fuck and five bars. Yeah. And you end up at someone's apartment at four in the morning on the roof smoking pot and like made these great new best friends, and they get separated at through a lot of this inner doing their own thing. And I've had those moments, and it's like that's the best kind of travel experience you can have. And they could only feel like he could only get that through her. Because again, he was he was swimming in the pool and going to the bar. She was getting out and about, but they're also so many shots of the isolation. Yeah. For both of them that one I mean, maybe my favorite shot in the movie, though, there's like two or three that are competing for that. But when she sitting in the window. Yes. And the hand held cameras just sort of quietly moving around her as she's just staring at that, just miles and miles and miles of city. Yeah. It's great gorgeous gorgeous. And yeah, it's. Sim- tiger Fay's beautiful. What was your favorite shot? This one jump out. That's a good question. I do love because there are multiple shots of her sitting in the window during the day and at night, probably all of those shots kind of together. Are are some of my favorites? I forgot how young she was too. Because she's such a big star. Now, he was seventeen when they filmed this. Really? Yes, she seventeen awhile weird because usually go like older plays younger and she's playing probably somebody in their mid twenties. Yeah. I felt like she was probably twenty three twenty four. Yeah. Somewhere in there. Yes. If you Coppola caster after I don't know seeing something. Well, head to have been either ghost ruled or men who knew too little. Yeah. Probably a couple of things she had done at that point. Yeah. But it's it's crazy to because she feels I think, you know, part of it is Scarlett Johansson has kind of a deeper voice. Yeah. And she definitely uses that in this movie too. And she just feels a little bit older. You know? Yeah. And she's just. Like, it's easy to get a crush on her even as like, a friend crush. Yeah. In this movie because she's sweet and friendly and for him like it contracts. Well, with the great scene in the beginning with the the Dick's at the bar, the business Dick's that are like, oh, you're Bob Harris, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And we're we're here on whatever fucking convention or something he's dislike he can't get out of there. Fast enough. Yeah. But he sees an ally in her from the beginning. There's this unspoken connection before they've made the bar. Remember, they lock is in elevator. A we'll know they lock eyes across the bar that is right is sort of like. Yeah. That's right. Acknowledge one another inefficiently way. Yeah. And it's great to that. But in the elevators well. Yeah. It's funny too. I always forget that aside from the opening shot of Scarlata Hanson's. But yes, the movie for the first probably ten minutes or so just as with Bill Murray, and you don't really come back to her. Yeah. For a little while in the movie, and again, they don't mean. Eat until yet. Like you said earlier about thirty minutes in. Yeah. Well, you love those stories to where I've seen so many times. Now, it's hard to remember the first time, but I do kinda remember when you're watching the story play out in parallel knowing that they're going to meet Anna love that though. Because his dislike here's this guy. Here's this young woman. They're both in the same place and they're converging. And what is that? Once I can look like. Gonna jump in bed together. Now because I don't think they need that they need something more than that. This is all it was almost like an emotional affair. Yeah. That makes sense. Which is the thing. Like, I've heard other people say stuff like that. Like, I had an emotional affair like never got physical. But I it's just as deep of a of achieved almost than having sex with someone. Yeah. Maybe more. So. Yeah, you could you could say that, you know. You know, if somebody cheated and had sex with somebody you could sort of like, oh, it meant nothing to me. It was just one little thing. But where if you meet somebody and really heavily can connect it's much more complicated. Because you it's your emotions are much more tied up in. Yeah. Yeah. I also get the one great scene in the middle of the night when Scarlett Johansson, waking g b in their mouth breathing half snoring and she wakes him up, and he again, just sort of grapples are. Yeah. And you know, almost puts her in a chokehold and immediately back asleep. And she just you know, she's to wrangle out of that. And that's just so emblematic of where they are. You know? Yeah. She needs his connection with him and e- even in the middle of the night. He doesn't know what to do except us like hold her tight. Yeah. He can't talk to her about anything. It's very sad. He's always talking about himself. Yeah. He so narcissistic. Yeah. Man, it's kinda depressing. It's very depressing. Yeah. But also he's so funny to like, he's such a character. I love him. And I think you mentioned earlier, but based on spike Jones, right supposedly, supposedly who spike Jones, the filmmaker who was married to few cope lat time, right? That's right. They were married just were together they married, and I I just like this up. They divorced in two thousand three shortly after the movie came out. And so I think many people have said that his characters based on spike Jones. And I think there's probably a lot of truth to that. Yeah. An an affair assist. So funny. Yeah. I mean, she just nails that Hurson that that person. That's like oh my God. I have be oh, it think so bad. And everyone says anorexic, I'm like, thank you, eat so much junk food, and then later when she's singing the piano bars. Just so such a character like such a real person. And if it is Cameron d is. I wonder how she feels about that. It's pretty big potshot. I know, you know, also when she's doing the press conference about her fake action movie night velocity. It's an action movie with Keanu Reeves is that what she says. She's yeah. She said I love working with. That's right. If you watched the closing credits of the movie in the special things Kiana gets a special really just like that little joke. Yeah. I'm sure she probably Coppola probably like set Hayes it. Okay. If I mentioned you and he's showing he's supposedly really cool guy. Actually, I have heard that I had a friend that worked with him. And he said it was actually kind of sad because how hard he was on himself on set with his acting. Really? Yeah. He was like kind of beaten himself up or how good of a job. He was doing. Yeah. But it just very great guy with cast and crew like super generous, and despite accounts of great, dude, I makes me happy to hear about that. Another one of my favorite shots is on their long night out when she has the pink wig and just puts her head. She smoking cigarette and puts her head on his shoulder. And then my bloody Valentine kicks in such a great music you and they're in the cab again. Yeah. Going through the fluorescent streets. So gorgeous. Well, yeah. So my bloody Valentine one of my favorite bands. Yeah. And Kevin shields of my bloody Valentine did a few songs for the movie. And then that my bloody Valentine Samis in there as well. But pretty awesome to be able to get Kevin shields to some of the music for your movie will her soundtracks are. Always great music is just you know, music user, also is probably my favorite soundtrack of hers. Yeah. For sure yeah. For sure. The other favorite shot is the the Gulf seen so gorgeous. So every time I watched that scene. I'm like that has to be like some fake screen of Mount Fuji about it looks. So it's so perfect that it looks fake. It looks like a like a top Gulf thing where they digitally project thing. You're playing Mount Fuji. It's a great shot. And obviously Bill Murray in real life is an avid golfer. Yeah. I think he might have this might not be true. But he might have said like, please let me do some golfing in the movie really could see that. I could see that. Yeah. And so he does that. And then you see him in his hotel room at one point just putting like a Cup. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the those like again, it's another scene that doesn't really advance anything. But it just evokes a feeling again out in this. Great wide open place all by himself. He's not playing golf with three other people like usually do. Yeah. See nothing but him in this quiet nature around him. Yes. Really lovely. We'll maybe let's talk some more about the bed room scene. So it's it's well first of all they're big night out is great. And that felt like a the paint gun thing. Yeah. Dealt felt something that had happened before. Because that would be a weird thing to make up and right? Very oddly specific. Yeah. You know way like she wasn't. Like oh. And then these guys come in with paint guns and start shooting and they run down the street. And I I don't quite understand. If that's was that in the script. No way. I think it is. Actually, I want to say it is it's like some kind of like fluorescent BB gun or something. Okay. But I don't know if I don't know what the the context if that's like a thing of it's meant to just be like having fun. And we're just I don't know how threatening that situation is meant to be no never really clear to me. Yeah. I think that that had to have happened to someone that she knew I think it feels like a strange thing to make up. Yeah. Absolute of whole cloth, but they had their big night out. And then they end up, you know, back at the hotel. He carries her to bed. And that's when they like that next six minutes is sort of the movie when they're talking about being stuck in the relationships and he's talking about marriage in. He has a great line the more. You know, who you are what you want the less, you let things upset you. Yeah. And that's such a thing that can only come. With age, and that I again, going back to the script some some of the lines. They say in that scene are directly from the script. But that line and a lot of the other ones are not in the script. Clearly just Bill that line was not that line was not or maybe some variation of rice. But a an actually in some interview, they said that that scene in particular took a long time to get right? They shot it. They're trying to shoot it one night. And they just couldn't nail it and actually came back on a different night. And we're able to work it out. Well, yeah. But yeah. And the line about, you know, kids being the most delightful thing in the world, and you wanna be with him. It's so beautiful in ticket. But at the same time it's weird because he says that and yet he's also willfully not being with his family. And so it's it's it's kind of sad. It's sort of like he's having this realization. But he's also not doing the thing. He should be doing in. Yes. And his wife. I mean, she's just seeing the most brutal brutal things like to wound him because he's mad. She's lashing out. The you know, he they're used to you not being around any way or something like that. Yeah. Tough stuff. Yeah. It is interesting that like it is you love this character is so great and everything. But like how can you not feel for his wife? Yeah. You never see. And you only hear this voice. Like kind of the way she pops up throughout the script. So strategic. I'd be interested to go back and look at like what? Immediately precedes each moment where you hear from her. You know? Yeah. One probably my favorite of the conversations. He has is when he's in the the songs are the pool or the sauna. And that's where he's saying the lines about he wants to eat Japanese food, and she stayed there. You can every day, right? And then he sort of hangs up and then he just lowers himself lower. Into the hot tub. I love the just such a great visuals visual symbolism of how he's feeling in that moment. Yeah. Totally that same thing down. I it sort of evokes the the Rushmore scene where at the pool party when he's just like gets up, and does the cannonball just kind of sinks down influence down to similar character in some ways. Yeah, I think so kind of that midlife crisis. The third act is when the third act is when things get really depressing that as with the the hot tub, I think it sort of that last half hour everything just sort of starts to close in the reality. Mike the trip is winding down for both of them. And it just that's when he sleeps with the lounge singer like all the bad things start to kind of happen in that last half hour. Yeah. And you know, you say third act, but I think that's in this movie, very loose. Yes. Her because it's it's a really a in some ways somewhat plot. Yeah. Yeah. Loose film that doesn't it here to what we think of is like sure three x structure, but yeah. Everything it's kind of e slowly feel reality starting to set back in with you know, I'm leaving tomorrow. Bill Murray's leaving the next day and Scarlett Johansson is presumably staying a little bit longer husband in in Japan. And so it's just yeah. It's very melancholy. Yeah. Think everyone's had that feeling that that whether it's a vacation or summer camp or something like you're so in it when you're in it, and then like the saddest day or like his like those last couple of days like the last full day. Yeah. Is always the saddest day. Not even the departure day, right because you're trying to have fun. But you're like this is all going to end. Yeah. Like soon, and I think that's also what's great about the movie is sort of the awareness and acceptance of the fact. That our time together is ending. And let's be okay with that. Yeah. Let's not exchange phone numbers to keep this thing going. Yeah. We came together. We both really got something out of this. And now we're going back to our lives. And that's okay. And it's okay to sort of have something hold a tightly, and then be be willing to let it go. If you love something set, it free this true. Very true. Yes. So tried and corny. On a poster everywhere, but it is true. Yeah. You can't hold something too tightly like that. You will choke the life out of it. Absolutely. And in the end, he has there's that great part where he's going to leave and that American woman. Yeah. Comes up like oh. And what are you doing here? And he's just like he's looking right through her Joe and the background, and he basically just like, you know, I gotta go or whatever. Yeah. And this this this attractive American woman he could sleep with her show fast. If you wanted to clearly into him. Yeah. But he's just not on his. Yeah, he sees right through her heard like he just heard want want want one. And he wants to go talk to her any does. And then, you know, you get that great ending which is sort of a variation of trope like stop the car. Yeah. You know? And he, you know, but he doesn't run after he walks like everything is slightly different than the usual trope of that scene. And then they you know what? Here we go. What does he say? Let's talk. Let's talk. My notes has a section about the whisper. Yeah. Let's let's talk about that. Because it's there are a lot of theories people have slowed it down on the internet and try to isolate those. Yeah. And it kinda was almost like I don't even know if I want to hear the theories. Yeah. I mean, I like the mystery of it. I'll preface my response by saying that I don't think we need to hear it. And I think that's sort of like the wrong way to approach a movie as a puzzle to be solved, and that it's whatever you want it to be let let them have their moment. I love Roger Ebert review of the movie. He had a great line. About that whisper at the end, he said. Quote, we shouldn't be allowed to hear it. It's between them. And by this point in the movie, they've become real enough to deserve their privacy. Which is a really nice way to put it. Yeah. All that being said though, right? It is fun to speculate. All right. So if you don't want to hear any of this go ahead and just turn it off. It's the Ron burgundy podcast. It's the Ron burgundy podcast. Guess what? I got up, and you don't guess what? I got up podcast, and you don't Ron burgundy. Puck cast. This is Ron burgundy from the Ron burgundy podcast brought to you by fair is a totally new way to get a car with the flexibility to turn it in anytime. Don't buy a car. Don't get alone. Get a car on your phone fair. The new way to get Gars. So let's let's talk. What is the leading? I think I know what it is. But what did you see is the leading theory, deleting feary, especially based on a YouTube video where I slowed it down and just into sound mixing stuff is that he's he's whispering. Something like. I might be wrong. But I have to go right now. But I'm not going to let that come between us K RIA. That's what I saw which is great fitting and beautiful. I disagree with that. Okay. Great and beautiful. I disagree with that. That that's what he's saying. Okay. If I'm actually listening closely and trying to interpret based on the little sounds. You can hear what I'm hearing is Paul is dead. The walrus was Paul. I can't make out the first half of the sentence. But the ending to me the last kind of part of the sentence to me sounds something. Like he's saying. I want you to go back up there and tell him that you love him. Okay. Oh, and so to me gets which fits to me that what he's telling her is go back up there. Tell him meaning her husband. He sort of giving her vice on saying don't give up on your marriage. Right. Try to make it work as best. You can which I think like almost like it's too late for me. Yeah. Because I feel like it is if we're if we're going to talk about the next week after this. Like, he may go home and get a divorce. Yeah. But she will try harder at her marriage. Yeah. I don't feel like they do the same thing. I agree after this. So again, that's just me sort of trying to listen closely. What I hear people? You may disagree with me. People may disagree. But I do like the sentiment that he's not telling her something of like. You know, let's find a way to keep in touch your. Let's try to keep our thing going, but he from vice on how to maybe fixed for marriage. Wow. Which I think is a nice sentiment. Yeah. But and there is a bit of a mentor quality to their relationship in some ways. Like, he gives her little bits of advice here, and they're like father daughter. That's why the whole sexuality of it is is. A big part of the movie. I think yeah. Yeah. You know touches her foot. He kisses her so much in one little on the lips. Yeah. They had that that kiss. But again, it wasn't like some sexually charged kiss at almost just feels like they in this sounds so creepy. I dunno function say. It almost feels like they just wanted to see what each other. Like what their lips felt like on each other's mouths? And maybe it's just like no we need to give some gesture of acknowledgment. Yeah. That's more than just like, a polite. Handshake. Yeah. When you shared so much with somebody. I know it's it's so like, I think that's speaks to how great the movie is if you can sit down and have a really good conversation with someone about the sexual politics of this movie. Yeah. And what it means? And what's going on there? That means she wasn't just like will this is pretty black and white dot go digested easily. Yeah. You know, there's a movie that you gotta think about. Yeah. And I so great. You know, the fact that if this movie were directed by a man, it would feel very different and Sofia Coppola, I think a lot of her films. Come from what I would call something like a very feminine point of view. There's just something unique you. Get from ah director, who's a woman, basically. Yeah. But especially sufi a couple who such an artist and such a. The master of subtlety. Yeah. Virgin suicides one of my favorites. Yeah. I I actually I watched marie-antoinette recently. I love them of that. When I first saw it. I was kinda like I don't know how I feel about this. The more time goes on the more. I love it ballsy. It's so ballsy it almost begs begs you to hate it sorta. But you just can't. And it's so great, and it's the chronicity soundtrack just get so works. Yeah. You know, surely. Well, that's another one like to see again. Yeah. It's great holds up and speaking of soundtrack, you know, they have that moment. And then just like Honey cakes in Jesus, Mary, Jane, what a great she's just like speaking, our language here with my buddy, Ballantyne, Jesus and Mary chain the sort of drone distorted thing. It's just so appropriate for this movie kind of dreamy. Yeah. It continues that sort of feeling that dreaming, and it's just such a perfect sound key. I wish I could. I wish I had more. To say other than it's perfect. I know. Yeah. Feel like a dummy. Sometimes like a man that's fucking great. But it kind of just was. Yeah. It was so perfect. Yeah. And that's just when when a movie can neyla music, you that just elevates everything. And that's what I love about movies is it's so many art forms combined. You know, like the visual aesthetics of this movie is so beautiful, and the acting is so great and the dialogue is so subtle. I think in can interpret it in many ways, and then you have this great soundtrack just kind of all came together. I think yeah. What what's great about Sofia Coppola is I think for her the in some ways, the style is the substance, you know, some people say a movie is all style and no substance. Sometimes it's valid criticism of of movies. Yeah. For Coppola like they're so intertwined that. You can't separate the two. It's sort of like, Wes Anderson. Yeah. Some people knock Wes Anderson for his very jers unique visual esthetic hits. Right. But for me for most of his movies, and I feel like that aesthetic is inextricably linked to the substance of the movie like he's making an argument through the visuals just as much as is the writing or the performances or the characters or whatever. Does that as well? Yeah. I mean, I know Wes Anderson gets knocked to for not breaking out of that. But I hope he does reese'll movie of his entire career. I hope is a Wes Anderson Wes Anderson movie, I mean, I don't want to do anything different. They're great say what you will. But you can always tell us Anderson movie from the first from any shot in a few these shots to our framed in such a way to that sort of oaks him. But he I mean, he didn't invent the perfectly symmetrical wide angle shot. No, he's he's made it his own. But it's it would be unfair for me to say. Like, she's doing Anderson shot. No. I I would say she's doing a Coppola. Yeah. Shot in exactly that does remind me. I do want to just briefly touch on the the visuals director photography was Lance accord. Yes, she's worked with a lot. Right. She's worked with him. She worked with him on a marie-antoinette. And then he's shot actually, some spike Jones movies. So he did being John Malkovich adaptation where the wild things are. Wow. Very love his stuff. And this this is maybe my favorite of his movies. But the movie is shot in in some ways, a very sort of documentary style, and they didn't use a lot of film lighting in the movie, it was sort of a minimal lighting setup. Yeah. And in fact, almost all the exteriors. Even the nighttime exteriors. They didn't use any lighting, which is you know, that's something. You don't really do in movies, right? But they wanted to sort of be a crew with a small footprint and also because Tokyo is such a bright city with all the neon. You can film in the middle of the night. And have plenty of light to get a good exposure on your camera. Yeah. I don't think the camera like I don't remember there any Dali shots in this movie. I don't think so feels like it's either lockdown or hand held. Yeah. But I don't remember seeing any tracking shots. There may not be any. I don't think. So that'd be pretty ballsy to be like, no, there's not going to be a dollar on this Zet. Yeah. A friend who worked on it. No way. Yeah. Wardrobe? Wow. Yeah. That's awesome. I've got some stories. Maybe I'll tell you off. Okay. But mike. Yeah. So that's interesting. The crew was mostly Japanese crew aside from a lot of the key positions. And so that kind of made the production difficult because Sufia Coppola would say something. And then she'd have somebody translated to the crew. And so is kind of a slower way of working. Yeah. But let's see what else about the visuals. Oh, this is interesting. So if you have the DVD or the Blu Ray, there's a great behind the scenes documentary now, so it's called Lawson lost on location. It was filmed by spike Jones. Her husband time, he was there. Yeah. She was working, and it's just shot on like it looks like just like a DV camera. Many interviews like man Giovanni. Great guys, hysterical gear. Yeah. But it's one of my favorite behind the scenes documentaries because it's not the usual behind the scenes where it's just everybody being like, oh, it's so great to work on this movie Safiya, so great. It's very fly on the wall just capturing moments of the production. And so some of the things you see is that they actually. Shoot in a lot of the locations without permits, which you know, like. It's somewhere you have to get permission from the restaurant owner or but a lot of the exteriors of Tokyo. They would just go out running gun right in particular, the shabu crossing, which is that gigantic intersection where you see that dinosaur projected on the video screen and a great Scarlett Johansson crosses the square, and they just took the camera out didn't get a permit. We're hoping not to get caught by the police, and they would film with the small film camera capture their shots. And they also at one point went up to a Starbucks and like pretended to order coffee, and then stuck the camera and like the window sill to get like a high point of view show. Really? Yeah. And they they got it. And I wonder about the arc aid to because felt very much like let's just get a camera and walk around it could have been and also take a handful of releases. See we can get these kids to sign sign off. And also on the subway when Scarlett Hanson's on the subway those they didn't get permits for. Yeah. And they were very nervous. They talk about about the police coming and for the most part they pulled it off which is. Something that, you know, especially on on movies that aren't sort of micro budget films. Yeah. You know, this movie was made for I think four million dollars, which is a small budget. Yeah. But it's it's a legit production to just be willing to sort of be ballsy and say, we're capture this and not worry about permits or anything. It's really bold move yet in bold in that. I think that carries over to the to to the work like that sort of Indy gorilla spirit of running gunning and getting what you can like. That's you've done stuff. Like that. Listen, exciting feeling. Yeah. It's scary filmmaker Gary, but exciting that adrenalin infuses itself though through the the work. I think. Yeah. Like in a a while back. I I did something similar on Marta. Uh-huh. For those who don't live in Atlanta, martyrs are subway. Yeah. Here in Atlanta where we took a little Cameron tried to steal some shots. And we got him at one point some mardi guard asked us, right? What are you guys are filming are you? And we were like, no, we're just we're we're taking our equipment somewhere. Right. It used to be a lot easier. Oh, yeah. I mean when I was in my late twenties. We shut stuff all over town. And you could just go into a restaurant and be like, hey, man. We're we're doing this cool little project you mind, if we didn't have lights and stuff it was just like a Cameron and dry pod. And we shut in restaurants shut all over the place. It's just people are way more savvy now now that there's a lot of film work going on. Yeah. About like having their hand out. You know, sure, you can shoot here for five grand per day. Yeah. Minimum. I've had this conversation trying to film because you're making a movie, right? I am. Yeah. You wanna talk about that? I will briefly. Okay. Only actually only as it relates to lost in translation because so few COPA is a big inspiration from me. And in the movie I'm making which is in post production right now. It's a feature spear, but a lot there's a lot of things that were inspired by severe Coppola in particular lost in translation, especially Visu. Uh-huh. I have one scene where it's two characters sitting at a kitchen table two characters who don't know each other very well, and they're sort of having a meal together. Right. The first time, and they're having this sort of conversation where they're just getting to know each other. And I basically copied the scene from lost in translation at the at the bar where Bob and Charlotte have their first conversation. So it's like a straight onto shot of them that a love that shot to in that movie. It's great because you can see Tokyo out the window distance between them. Yeah. A very noticeable both on the edges of the frame. And then at some point it cuts into sort of over the shoulder close up, right? Very shallow focus for sort of intimate as their kind of there. There's a connection being made. And I totally copied that structure for the scene in my moods straight on shot and my bar. Yeah. The good ones bar the gate when steel exactly know she'd probably bar that from someone else. That's part of it the cinematic language. Yeah. Open to everyone. Yeah. That's all say about my. How's it looking good? I'm happy with it. It's in June, the final sound mixing color picture now. So awesome. And should be done imminently. Can't wait queue. You got anything else on this? No. I think we covered everything I wanted to cover the woman we're going to do this again, you didn't you nervous about this? I was you did great. Thank you. So maybe we'll make this part of the ongoing filmmaker series you in case a Yellowstone roommates. Right. We are. Yeah. The superstars of this show. Now, Casey is I think the master though, I hope I can be as good because it's so much fun to sit and talk movies with you guys. So we'll we'll do this again. Maybe you and I should go through. So please filmography that'd be fun. Should we do that? Yeah. I'd be down to do that. All right done. Let's do it. We'll do virgin suicides. Who I haven't watched it in a long time. We'll go back to the beginning. At least going to be so mad like I wanted to be yourself. Couple of person. We're doing Emily. We're gonna do Alexsandr pain though. Oh nice. We're going to go through his his career. Yeah. One at a time. Yeah. I'm a fan. I'm a big fan of yet. While I talk about one hundred percent club. And he's in it and Sofia couples in it to me just movies. You love everyone thing they done movies. Like, they've never made a bad movie. Right. Cohen brothers are almost there. The lady killers just edges them out there. The ninety five percent, there's still bad pretty well know, Trump sitting how many they've made their out there but brothers it'd be fun to do as well. Yeah. And the show is Morrison become it's sort of on thing where we can just kind of play around do fun stuff like this. So cool awesome. Thanks, buddy. Thank you. All right, everybody. I hope you enjoyed that. I sure did that was another good movie talk. 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ICYMI - Mark Ruffalo on Supporting Kenosha, WI, and the 2020 Election

The Daily Show with Trevor Noah: Ears Edition

09:37 min | 4 months ago

ICYMI - Mark Ruffalo on Supporting Kenosha, WI, and the 2020 Election

"You're listening to comedy central. I spoke with Academy, award nominated actor Mark Ruffalo we talked about what's been happening in his hometown of Kenosha and so much more check it out. Thank you so much for joining me on the show. Thank you for coming back not in person but like you know the way we do everything now. It was just it feels like it was yesterday that we right in a thousand years ago both at the same time that we were just sitting like we would never thought we would be like this. I would I should have an would've enjoyed those moments more. Hugged you for longer I would have talked to you for long I would have I feel like there's so many interactions that I didn't fully appreciate because I didn't know that I would not be having them for like seven months of my life body. Exactly what you mean maybe that's part of what this is all about for us is just a is just appreciate. Take for granted like hugging people are being next to people without. Gone or being around people who don't have masks on and not wanting to hit them. are becoming berate them or asked what is your? What's the big deal man? This is I feel like this is the part where Scarlett Johansson starts talking to you very softly and it brings you down and just like. You're. One of the most versatile actors that like about generation you know I feel like in many ways, you know what we see of you in the movies is who you are in real life because Mark Ruffalo in real life is somebody who's been outspoken for a long time and it's different right now you know Kenosha. is in the news. Jacob. Blake. Kyle. Rittenhouse you know the the protests, the shootings, the racial tension, and you wrote a really powerful piece that speaks to Kenosha because you speak from your heart as somebody who's from Kenosha what you wish more people would understand about what's going on there. Were you know. It was shocking first of all to to seek notion the news at all I mean, it's just not a place that you hear about other than you know factory closings and And my family's there and you know I I it was devastating to see what happened there, and then what followed of have to see Jacob Lake shot like that in front of his family An INNOC-. All, these people. Go Out in protest for black lives you know, which is what we're doing you know, and that's the truth of the small and I and I feel bad for anyone who doesn't join US especially for the people who say all lives matter because if you're truly believe all is mad than you should be on the streets right now if you're black and Brown and white. Brothers are all fighting for one of the races were obviously it doesn't appear like there are being considered the same way the rest of our right. So that's what all lives matters really means is that all I do matter and that black lives gotta be lifted up the be out. You should be the first one out on the street you know, but these protests have been. Predominantly peaceful. We don't hear about that. You know we only see the guys like in Kenosha. Wisconsin they made a hundred and seventy arrests. Over those days of protests and one hundred, twenty of them were from out of town. And they were provocateurs and they were you know trashing a town that they're not even from that was what broke my heart because that's not what I know about Kenosha Wisconsin as is. Despair as the it is economically as much as people struggle there there is there is a community that. That being said. That community is also facing. You know generations of of racial injustice and inequality. But what the news I was seeing coming on their didn't feel honest to me insult salacious it felt you know of course, they're gonna go for the worst things and then of course you have What you know the kid was seventeen year old isn't a fifteen. Being called from out of state. to come and be a vigilante in basically shoot people all this heartbreaking and I was honestly trevor I was paralyzed there. Didn't I didn't know how to respond to an unusually I I get some sort of message lake. This is your time to go. This is your time to be there this. In Kobe, I couldn't go Taking care of my family here And And then something opened up. I was reaching out to the community heard about this black B. L., A. K. Black Lives Activists Kenosha. and. saw reached out through them and did that Instagram g live? To counter this kind of story that was coming out of the Kenosha News, the time that was coming out of the media that was coming out of the trump campaign that Kenosha Wisconsin was some kind of hellhole where of a black terrorists were were terrorizing the community, which is an utter bullshit as we all know I think a lot of people would appreciate the fact that you don't just speak out, but you also advocate for action. This election is one of the most important that America will ever face and you've gotten out there and people have known for a long time that you are huge. Bernie Sanders supportive and now you've been going out seeing people we have to get behind Joe Biden and we have to vote you know. For. Longtime. It felt like the Bernie faction of the party would never. Coalesce behind a Joe Biden feels like this election is different. Would you say? Yes, we we learned a big lesson from two thousand sixteen the propaganda of of the United States, elections and election cycle is. that. The presidential election is going to solve everything. But an election really is only comma on a movement. And so we have to look at who is who are the candidates and how do they align to what this movement is about which. is going to bring us closer to racial parity which candidate is going to bring us closer to a green new deal which candidate is going to bring us closer to debt student debt reform which candidate is going to bring us closer to universal healthcare. If you have any sense of long-term movement building, then you have to say that Joe Biden, we're not gonna get that from trump. We all know that now. Okay. And so at this point, if you're an activist, if you really care about the movement and the things that you say you care about the low sustain, you're GONNA have to coming to making that happen is Joe, Biden, and when Joe Biden is in office. We're not gonNA stay on the white. House, long like we did with Obama we are going to keep coming. We are going to keep demanding and we are going to make sure that we have movement on this thing because you WanNa know what we put you in office this time you know like when I was in Kenosha And I. I wanted to know what was happening there. That was right happening there they were having a block party trevor and they were dancing and they were doing covert testing and they were doing haircuts and they were feeding people and they were registering people and they were having people sign up for the census. Now that's what community does. And and that's what's beautiful about what's happening in this moment the the gold in the silver lining of trump. Is that all of these organizers who've been doing this work for years are all coming together from whether it's from the environmental movement to the racial justice moving to the criminal justice reform move. It were all interconnected now and we'd never been that way the there's so much to be hopeful about right now and I think that's the message that were missing you know while. I I hope that you'll optimism is rewarded and it's great to see that you still have the passion that you've had for so many years. Thank you so much for joining me on the show and good luck when you get back out in the streets buddy, we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA make a plan for voting. We got I mean make a plan check your registration call free take. Ak Grandmother Making a party, make a plan and that's how we'll win. Mark, Ruffalo so much joining me. Love you man you're the best. Thank you trevor. Colonel Here's ears addition Watson the show weeknights at eleven ten central on comedy Central and comedy central? Watch full episodes and videos at the daily show dot com. On facebook, twitter and Instagram, and subscribe to the daily show on youtube exclusive content and more. This has been a comedy central podcast.

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"<music> and we're back it's still here. This is sort of an election night feel because nominations rolling up the second scrolling through a feeds like screaming things that interns to get me coffee as I learned that Catherine O'Hara was nominated is the same thing as when the boys are waiting for election results to come right but the urgency the same random people crying mocking around the room yes yeah and we are joined by Brooke Taba Hi Hi. I'm so glad to be here. I'm so psyched you're here. I'm glad to be came in you. Walk Right in the room and I was immediately filled with life I did that you had to keep it. No one has to believe me on this briefly up you our journalist at the young Turks. I am hysteria yes and now you're on keeping stormy away. We did we did well. I think these abby knobs are finally Ed so let's get into the biggest news which is Shits Creek. Oh yeah the fans win. I guess I doubt Shits Creek got nominated for best comedy. Okay and Eugene Levy and Catherine O'Hara got acting MOMS which is awesome for one reason specific. I mean I love Catherine Hair but obviously we think Julia drive is going to win but in that category it's just nice to see fresh fresh faces that are competitive with her because if it was sort of the same people who are always up against jail we it would be a foregone conclusion that but she's up against Christina applegate. She's them against Natasha Leone lots of people who are really good at smoking onscreen. There are also people who like you said they're not fresh faces right. They're not like someone nominated for their first year and a Sitcom right he's or people who are we know. Julia Louis Drivers's caliber because they've been in the game as longer are correct yeah. There's a chance to she might not get it because people also really get NAM's for their last season's on shows a right right. They usually fall off etc but I mean it does seem like she's going to win. She'd be cancer this year. I'm not saying like when you're watching the T._v.. You think like well you can tell she cancer and this season but I'm just like there's so much goodwill towards her and she it's such a legendary performance. She's one every other time. She's been eligible to be nominated so I mean it'd be weird if she lost right right where you excited about any bombs you know I'm looking through and not really you watch television ever a ton of these show so I was looking like outstanding drama. I like that <hes> game of thrones is probably not going to win which I like game of thrones but we were talking about it. It's it's competitive. Usually it's throw away I would think because game of thrones has been such a massive hit and this season was like all right. You'd be hard to find somebody who's like it needs to win this year. Yeah exactly and I like post. Nothing else makes me it used to be this is the first season I'm crying at the end of every single episode and now it's pose that was posed because associates and you know spoiler killing people and having them dance on their caskets right. I'll always see something on twitter like everyone's saying they're crying and so I get to the point where I think it's going to be. That's the sad point clean and I'm like Oh. No I made it through its part after the ghost. That's the part I need more dramas that bring in Sandra Bernhardt as a no-nonsense doctor okay. This might be the first one to achieve that is sad. We're behind. I'm shocked. She wasn't unlike nurse Jackie or something. In the eighties we had hot brothers who murdered and I do miss it. <hes> yeah love <hes> we had it in the forties to that's right. Oh Leopold in lab wait where they brothers. That's way before that no they were like friends. That's who may be hooked up one time crush on the other we can talk about dashing murder but lovers maybe also pose was nominated and Billy Porter got lead actor drama and no one else from pose got nominated which stating well billy porter is like a a peacock to the person. I'm glad out and doing it and unforgettable as always is there air by the way I just found the craziest nomination on this list. Are you ready reality show host some some of these are familiar. Got Your Rupaul. God share James Corden for the world's best. That's not something I've Seen Ellen. Degeneres Amy Poehler Nick Offerman Marie Condo guys the woman shows up for three minutes anything she looks at you. Smiles Neal's figure it out Jeff probst used to win that right and then here and then we got sick of winning awards so what's interesting is it's twenty nineteen and there's seven thousand T._V.. Shows on the air so I honestly couldn't tell you what I think was snubbed sure right because what's on the what what what am I missing and for. I forgot and also the categories have expanded so much I mean there's one two three four eight nominees and outstanding comedy alone wing imagine needing to watch eight comedies in a year guys. Laughing is exhausted. The amount of nominees like an actress comedy to acting nominees. There's so many people also guest actors in a drama before we wrap this Laverne Cox think think makes history as the first trans person nominated for an acting category in drama and she has previously nominated in comedy comedies she made history and then twenty fourteen she needs to move onto variety talk. Show hosts we need to get into the black next year might be nominated variety okay because he's been nominated for the same sharply she nominated for ores new block which was a comedy and twenty four categories starring actress Tracinda drama gotTa Oh yes I was looking at comedy because now it's a drama which I guess because there's been prison riots and people dying right. No it shifted and anyway I think I'm just GONNA end on saying my biggest SNOB is Charlie Barnet for Russian doll. Oh Yeah just busy so hot. Okay well deserves an award. I mean he's really good actor to. I'm always reading for Natasha's something about her is just a genuine article lover Yeah Yeah we've got a big show today. We're GONNA talk about Scarlett Johansson and her recent comments about pulling out of the movie rubbing tug thought that was over last year but she's back uh-huh then we will feed joined by Justin Simeon creator of deer white people. We're going to talk about the upcoming season three the real housewives Potomac <hes> Tyler Perry and better aerobic announcing that he is descended ended from slave owners. They're going to wrap things up with the drama on the set of big little lies and I'm not talking about Meryl Streep and her teeth and the way to stick with us. Keep it point. If you recall an episode from last year we talked about Scarlett Johansson dropping out of the film rubbing tug where she I play a trans man. Dante Techs Gill remember. She initially pushed back on criticism from the L._G._B._T._Q.. Community which you know said that maybe assist woman shouldn't be playing a trans a man and a film. We were out of line. Yes it was listen. It was pre pose fair share now. She was said in response to her critics. Tell tell them that they can be directed to Jeffrey tambor jared leto and Felicity Huffman's reps for comments. Well let me tell you still have reps best that out of the three of those jared Leto it would be by far the most noble wow thirty seconds to dignity anyway recently after we thought that blew over Scar Joe is back take a recently released interview with as if which is not a sequel to the Renee Zellweger Netflix trauma nor is it a magazine Spinoff of clueless Scarlett Johansson said you know now as an actor I should be allowed to play any person or any tree or any animal because that is my job and the requirements of my job. I feel like it's a trend in my business and it needs to happen for various social reasons yet there are times it does get uncomfortable when it affects the art because I feel art should be free of restrictions and then she later said that her comments were Click Bait <hes> and said that they were widely lightly taken out of context and that she was actually answering a question in a conversation with contemporary artists David Sal who was asking about the confrontation between political correctness and art and she said that she feels personally that in an ideal world any actress should be able to play anybody any art form but of course there's widespread discrepancy amongst her industry that favorites Caucasian since gendered actors not every actor has been given the same opportunities that she's been privileged to. She brought a whole statement to say. I said what I was reading that way. There's something different in here right. It's you did say what you said girl. I have to say this is kind of weird opinion to have about this when celebrity something like oh I was actually talking about this in regards to whatever question was as a lot of the times with these things. You actually don't know what question was asked so I I actually could be without the proper context for what you said so I initially occasionally occasionally too sympathetic in situations like this that said when getting back to the point of in an ideal world anybody could play anybody at just like who cares like it's like when people say things like funniest funny that doesn't mean everybody should be saying the same jokes just because we think it's funny it also in an ideal world. Where's this world exists? I know we're not getting their ideal. You who you play on a movies right. We're not talking about it obviously not talking about an the ideal world and neither are you and you know you're not you are still salty because you still believe that you should continue to be given everything <hes> shell this question. Did anybody see goes to the shell. No I don't even have a sense of it among like my friends who watch everything what that movie is just based on the reaction to it. I feel like it's her like in a Geisha outfit lip synching turning Japanese for two hours better I may be yes I mean she's talking about the battle between political correctness and are at my cou car scar Winston. When's the last time you were making a movie for art? Say I Miss Lucy girl with the Pearl earring was quite a few minutes ago. Scoop go to be calling people saying hey we never get these opportunities and now you're talking about us more and still refused to give us these opportunities. I don't know if that should be described as political correctness that's kind of offensive to me in general right because it's it's how we talk about basic humanity and giving all humans the same civil liberties and we call that politics. I don't know if that works for me. I don't know if I think the phrase political correctness is corny anyway <hes>. I also think that in an ideal world we we don't have everyone playing any role you know like I don't think an ideal role. Is You know where I see. <hes> you know a white woman saying they call me Mr Tibbs you know I'd like to see them. Try and I think that we have more roles for marginalized communities and I think that's the ideal world yeah we have people representing themselves and their cultures and writers director's also representing themselves. There's also some implication of like meritocracy is the ideal world but only when certain people get the opportunities to play certain characters cycle. You're just valuing whiteness again anyway. Sorry in an ideal world. These stories don't exist because these human beings that you want to steal world from the art dying tragically exists in an ideal world seems true stories of people fighting to be considered human. They don't exist because it's an ideal world I do. I think you should be sentenced to play a tree. Though you know what's interesting about Scarlett Johansson is I do feel like in some ways. She is like we just talked about Dallas Buyers Club Matthew mcconaughey and one year in like she's just going to decide to win an Oscar and then we're gonNA give it to her so I feel like we should we are going to ramp up to some your which she's going to give a ton of interviews and I want to see how many of them she lands because I am worried listen I mean Estrella joins impress stores sounds like a nightmare. She also mentions chance in her statement that you know I always have continued to support diversity in every industry and we'll continue to fight for projects where everyone is included I say to that aren't GonNa wait and right because like what she pulled out of rubbing tug didn't that mean that it wasn't going to be made because she was the star being attached to it right right right now. It's like linear starpower then to the movie he still and just hopefully the trans role. <hes> you know that was her trying to get that Oscar by the way right that is really a shame that that project seemingly went nowhere after that you're telling me like a fell to me like a got enough press they could have done something cool after that and cast somebody appropriate appropriate <hes> it's exhausting when someone you could just turns out to be so awful the you on the street and in you know not spit on you if you were on fire this doesn't it's just doesn't sound good talk about Scarlett. Johansson Hawk from survivor gross. I don't know I liked her yeah. I like black widow limited. I like she was in her lost in translation. Ah where we all used to really rock with scarlet Johann and then she started talking Yup. I think the moral of this is celebrities. Don't don't don't give interview well. Do you know what I think. The problem is too is I think people underestimate that generally speaking most celebrities have gotten smarter and so when somebody falls behind it's like look we have people out here who actually do know what to say and who do represent you know the the ideals of Hollywood et Cetera. There are people you know what I mean so onset when somebody messes up it sticks out like a sore thumb it's not it's not that the younger generation is to woken these other people can't catch up. It's that a lot of people fucking get it you know and then also can take criticism. Well you know Walleye smart enough to just not say the trash parts of their personality personality not bring them public in some people are just so awful yeah that they hate that those things that they believe are considered awful and they just have to say three Patricia Unions growing around telling people. She's a Republican alter no right. She wants that money. She hides it yeah but it's also the thing that not just that people have gotten smarter right. It's also the fact that now that we have other actors like a Viola Davis you know <hes> or <hes> Octavia Spencer you know or like other people who are diverse and not just like the same white actors we've been seeing for years in Hollywood now that they have roles and they're doing junkets and they're giving interviews. They have better things to say right out. They've been experiencing this you know and <hes> if you're one of the actors was just sort of coasting buying nut ever really having to think about any of that then of course you're not going to have anything smart to say on the subject right right right but anyway anyway so. We're not getting redmond tug now. Okay well sadly i. I I mean I if it can't go on with somebody else I I don't know what to keep the movie not get her. It does seem obvious right when we're back <hes> which joined by Justin simion creator of deer white people this episode of Keep It is brought to you by Sun Basket it just picture big old basket full of Sun. It's a good image I was going to say it's a basket full of just like hot magma right pointed to people and their faces no matter your lifestyle sun basket caters to your kind of healthy with delicious meal plans like Paleo No carb conscious gluten-free Mediterranean diabetes friendly and Vegan Plus Quick and easy recipes. 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So how is that for your shows on Netflix and literally something drops every day on that flex there are fifty netflix shows that I have not said it has has ruined my viewing habits because while you're making a netflix series like literally the last thing I want to do is come home and watch like thinking television like this is why stay in the housewives Potomac so hard because like when I might cry Oh my God candidates okay okay. We're GONNA get there okay. The point is cannot wait. I think it's like housewives and then like Chernobyl or something the show right at this point I think he needs real house. Topa yeah that seems like a daring choice fourth season and the seasons older. It's four just really woke up plastics and yeah the seasons are very short. Let me tell you some things that have had okay shark tank it to me. Karen Hugo her husband's charged with tax evasion glamorous old school problem to have missed tax evasion nothing thing glamorous about it as it unfold. That's the best part because the thing about the house is a Potomac is it's the best of Atlanta and the best of Beverly Hills in the rich and they have real serious rich bitch problems but there's this Patina on top of of just fabulous black people on a lot of also broke say it's cheaper Ro Robin. Robin has no damn robbing because robin her money Robin One. We're swindled out of their money. Anybody's business partners when the first season so she actually went broke and I also feel because you know everyone has their side parties on the housewives so like Giselle is like I have a new beauty line and target. It's amazing and they cut to Robert. I'm still working on this house. I bought like it's always like a little bus robin but identify with her. Wow I feel like I'm Robin. Most in life like just like Gras Botha's hammer today. Everybody else is like I just like re renovated like back the W Hotel Hotel now and she's like grog got a screw but because right so Karen because the house a very big new house all the women were investigating 'cause they weren't so she was actually living in it was just for show real quick. People's husbands might be gay the rally this season's drama is Ashley Darby Her husband Michael who is Australian and they used to own a restaurant John how it closed to try. We always WanNa go to that kangaroo. We it's closed so a year ago and stuff. There were rumors and leaks that her husband was on Grindr. Soliciting like men on has God. This is the Australian man because there's no sexual orientation rules in Australia eating out right as we're finding out this season yeah everybody identifies as cross fit there so the season opens opens up. They're trying to have a baby okay. The season opens with apparently while he didn't remember he was might or he was drunk. He said aloud and some other housewives hurted. I would suck his dick talking about one of their husbands. We don't no no we don't know who was probably one because also the way robin denies giving the name of who is my favorite because we know it's want okay we know is Robbins do but the way too I just I just out of respect. I can't say Robin I love you so so everyone is having fights about this. It finally came out at Dinner Party. The woman who has okay the greatest actually attacked her with a knife beverage. Yes her reasoning for why it was okay as she gave her. A beverage invited her into my home. I gave her a beverage therapists now this week but they're trying to save game. Katie's like not paying attention. Oh is he no wait. Katie's response to the whole thing was literally me. There's someone that's you in every scene right. Yes this this whole blow. It happens your husband's gay. How all this they're mad at her? For some reason I don't I never could understand why it's like like Ashley is probably the problem with real housewives shows yeah unfortunately obsessed. There's always a husband or someone that they think might be always happened on every and it always veers into this weird almost yeah. Don't you think they are so aware of that like the way they're all. Parsing is kind of brilliant on. It's a story line to talk about it gets into you know like peanuts. I just can't at the penis belongs one of our husband this disclaimer. It's okay but you should not say what you're saying. They say we're listening and it's so good anyway. What I like about Potomac is that like Beverly Hills and like New York and sometimes sometimes Atlanta? Everyone's aware that they have a job to do. They are playing characters and a soap. Opera Reality Means and their job is to get as much camera time as possible and to be as interesting as possible but also to deal with their real shit wind possible right they just get the late into authenticity. Yes they get the job of being on the show in everyone gets it like I don't feel sorry. There's like house was where I feel. Sorry for a couple of cast members like they don't know the jokes on well well. I don't know that Lewellen fully understand where everyone's coming for. That was degree to voicing good. Look I literally think is our living Florence. Foster Jenkins show up wave a cabaret. Yes scree tied plan your roles Segue Segue to the current drama that were living in which is the twenty twenty into 'em raise. We're talking about Beto Aurora <hes> announcing that he was descended from slave owners <hes> his paternal Great Great Great Grandfather Andrew Collin Jasper apparently <hes> two women in eighteen fifty s rose and Elisa and he revealed his personal connection in a medium post where he outlined his new plans to offer black people a significant amount of fundraising in areas where we've been systematically overlooked. Oh wow honestly what are your thoughts thoughts. One white people say racist queered shit. I thought that came out with the fact that he in an from slave owners. That was never is yeah. I know bitch. I worked so attention seeking. It's stressful. I thought it very funny. Some people were like it's not that funny oh trying the to do a lot of things for the black community in his policies at when he announced it. I'm like Oh okay so you're not going to be president. Honestly if he was trying to do things for the black community he would be focused on in Texas and in Tex- Vanity presidential campaign until you some Shit I am from Houston Texas Oklahoma Okay well those are different places but yes <music> but when beddoe was dying from Wisconsin would like he was great for Texas because like Houston in Austin and like there's black people in Texas there are people who make sense intex swear to God. There are not all of them by family. It's fine. There are liberals Texas Progressive People. There's creative people all all over and I thought that that's where he was needed. It is needed that is to try to win there again because like the P Like I've never grown up really in Texas where the the state was like controlled by the people that I actually interface with all the time and every day and and him possibly getting seat there was like really exciting like there's like somebody who makes sense just makes sense doesn't even have to be Brian. Just you just make basics as sense running something into this like since it's an richards. We've been waiting okay so you know I I hope that he finds a way back at some point doesn't get this nominee. I just feel like every reason you would like him is covered by in some van diagram formation the people who are ahead ahead of him and that's that's the problem right. It's like one I was like who has descended from slave owners. If you're white and if you aren't you are descended from people who benefit from slave yes three three when he was talking about policies and things it's like that's great you know but my same thing is with you know like what's the policy going. Do you get cable. It's like there are so many people ahead of you at the bottom of the second tier. Yeah people and you lost money and fundraising in this recent quarter. Here's a home as it felt like a star as a professional. Try hard okay. I try way to fuck it hard. That's the problem is that it comes off very try hard like when he spoke Spanish at the debate it's like he's. He wants you to see how he's down and that makes them not down. You know what I mean like Malaysia so hungrily but it's okay. It's just not his time I'm living from Area Williams and everything she does says talk about a white woman who definitely wears a turban. Sometimes I'm just into in general is Haji. I have a love hey relation with twitter on an office and when I'm on it and I've been on it this past week got on what happened. I've been on this past week so I see the shave all the candidates but I haven't really been keeping score like that. I know like I'm kind of like down for whoever can win twenty twenty yes I literally don't care who that is not bite and sorry. I'm not into bite it. That's the one emotion I actually have is and I'm not really for that. We didn't know he could have been uncle Joe forever. Nobody had to know nobody to know nobody know what was in emperor. He is nothing has close is just like he's missing like a shirt unexpected missing a bell. It's not outfits but child. Whatever sorry where we go so what is happening in season three of your show and you know with Secret Society grits you know Giancarlo esposito's and whatnot joining the narrative to my love one of the great supporting performances in recent years breaking bad and he's just who you want him to be in real life? Oh yeah gracious gracious thoughtful kind generous like he isn't wonderful human being like truly and you learn so much just from working with him so there's more him this season <hes> arrows on the my dirty laundry <hes> a little bit this season season. I play a character named Jerry Schuyler. This is my acting debut. Oh Wow <hes> which is a lot of ways because you know my career begins with the words Fuck Tyler Perry. That's where my career starts in the near White people concept trailer and a strange loop off Broadway way. You Hate Tyler I don't I don't actually and he called me up one day which was odd because I didn't give them a number. He has the phone number yeah. He's like black person got it and I was like. Oh Shit this is this is happening now my car while I like wait outside of McDonald's for like my extra crispy hashbrowns anyway I think that's where I was. The point is that he called and he was like Yo so do we have beef or not and I was like no we were gonNA were like running into each other at some like event coming up or whatever and he <hes> just called to like see what was up and I was like here's the thing okay when I was brand new. Maybe a little bit. Maybe I felt that crabs in a barrel and I felt like I had to aim at you to give my ass out the barrel because nobody was checking for black shit that wasn't like Tyler Perry in twenty thirteen twenty fourteen when I was trying to make this damn movie and but since I've made the movie and been on the other side of that Q._N._A.. Lie Okay being asked about like why he why she you know what the White Dude how how come Lionel eight more gay and I'll come out like I've been on that side of it. I was like I get I get it and I'm sorry if you ever felt aggression from me because the truth is you're talking to your audience and I'm I'm burying my shame by attacking hacking you because you can speak so an audience and I haven't discovered yet. I haven't found my audience yet because I can't get in the door so I had that moment with tyler and I wanted to. I really wanted to get across that mind. Fuck of growing up black with heroes I become become problematic and antagonist become heroes and trying to navigate than shit was that what did he say. Oh Gosh she said well. I just wanted to call he was so gracious personal funny. I mean he's like the coolest. He's like a really cool chat. We just had for a little bit he poured into me. He says I'm really kind things about my cinema. He like you know offered some advice in a few areas in my business and start to give one of your characters aids yes no. He suggested that or any small <hes> I know but you know what he did say. He was like you guys are doing things that I'm not doing like you. Guys are going places in narrative that I'm not going into because you know I wanna serve a particular audience but I also WanNa make black people rich and I was like okay I can fuck with that can do all by yourself but the point but trying to reconcile that real sort of twenty thirteen me like everybody anger trying to reconcile that <hes> because now like now the show is in his third season it's already established in the minds of people and the shows brands attacking the status quo but we're the status quo now like you know so we have to Kinda WANNA start to turn in on ourselves and go okay well. What I unpack a lot of shit this season? I Make Fun of myself. I Make Fun of our show one of the shows within a show. There's a very dear white people black people arguing to jazz moment but we also like yeah we talk about Tyler Island we talk about spike and we talk about like what do we do with these heroes and these influences when we're trying to actually be something greater and more than the people that came before us in a in a world that's still doesn't get as is worse than ever just as racist as always has been but now like the truth of our heroes is starting to come to light. It's starting to be a part of that cultural conversation with the hell. Do you do when the only reason you're even there is because somebody made you feel like you could do it because they have the same skin color as you and you finally get there and there are hot mess us. What do you do? That's kind of that's what the kids are struggling with this. These that's what I was struggling with this season just about personal life and <hes> the this the mind fuck of Tyler Perry going from antagonists like mentor in my head. I was like oh I got capture that appealing somehow and I think that that's what we did this season IRA. I love that. What are you saying what Tyler Perry flowers time yeah I mean look? You Ain't got to this little girl. Did you. Every how the thing is like Tyler Perry Shit is supposed to sit alongside a bunch of other shit too and the problem is for awhile white people who are in charge of it. Just wouldn't let anything anything else through like that was the real issue and you know what I said to him. It was like look we may not be of the same audience. We may be speaking design but the fact is like it's not your fault Tyler Perry that I couldn't get seen like that wasn't your fault and the trick. This industry was to make me think it was your fault and to blame you for it and to say fuck you because I can't get on that was that was not the right way to think about it and having been on the other side of that from other black filmmakers or from black audience in general it was like oh I got this. I have to be an after disrupt this pattern I will I will say that like I really do recommend a strange luke off Broadway Owens. It's amazing in it. Along is still playing. It's closing some what's in it also named after a Liz Fair son which I had guests mentioned mentioned in the play but what's interesting. Is that like Michael Jackson and the writer he is very focused on God Tyler Perry his main characters focus on like hating Tyler Perry moment where you know some ancestors come they tell him you know like taxpayers giving black people good jobs etc.. You know you need to focus on that way. Ancestors are in the movie ancestors. There's something in the way I already take Brendan. What's Great? Is that conversation sort of brings up the fact that you know like he is giving black people jobs but I was saying that feeling of we were forced to think that you know it's either him or us. Yes I was revisiting that because like the the hardest part about stage plays right is is the audience is the broader audience. It's always going to be largely white making Tyler Perry jokes and its way people laughing at them right and it's sort of like it's uncomfortable bit sitting in that audience and watching it and I guess it somewhat different because for T._v.. T._V. Show you can just watch a black person right talk with black people online with whoever you you're not if people were watching your white people you're not necessarily always getting their reactions the way that you would get like if you're going to see Jimmy Oh Harrison sleigh way play on Broadway sitting there with audience and that's going to be hard <hes> and it's you know we have an different benefit yeah of being able to but you know what it is to would also thought about it is like the attack of Tyler. Perry is an attack on us because our family members love that Shit family members you love it. People love it all levels as the movies. I love those shows on own yeah and it's like who am I fucking. Tell other black people where they can't see themselves. Who am I to like? Get on my high horse because we all here. I'm about to do it now. I'm sorry because he at the crib you know I'm watching documentaries and old shit and Potomac. That's solid middle ground stuff like I don't know why but I've been watching. I've been watching a lot of black people documentaries recently and one of the one one of the things I'm real. It's all mischievously like we are in this country and weavings opportunities because of Minstrel C. which which is fucked up <hes> okay but that's just it is what it is though all of our traditions came out of Mitchell see everything from jazz to hip hop has a link to this tradition character and season two. Hey lutely absolutely and and that is the thing that is hard for a black artist to acknowledge but I think we have to acknowledge that like we are someplace because of this great tradition and the tradition cut both ways it was fucked up for black people people but it also was like the only thing black people had so we used it and made something amazing out of it and create characters and you get ethel waters out of like literally like we use that as kind of like a little doorway to get into the culture and to deny people and black people loved minstrel shows back in the day. They're minstrel shows for black people that were mystery shows for white people white people playing black people back people playing white people it was very complicated Victor Victoria yes but with race shame and and but the thing like gag of it all all is Vivica Fox to God's okay so we can. We just pause because I want something to happen. Loretta Devine Jennifer Lewis already there Shirley Ralph move golden girls reboot. Oh my God. Can we make it happen. Can we collect Betty Betty. I think is the landlord okay. I think is how yeah I think so. There've been pitches for the about designing women okay. I'm just GonNa talk about what I'll go ahead. Ah My boyfriend loves his point. Is the golden girls. I don't know how Tennessee Williams Sitcom is without having inhaling disease. That's what designing women okay so but like I don't know who plays the Sophia. It could be a Sicily Tyson. It could be like Marla Gibbs. It could be a jacket like that and it's not all original idea by the way we saw. Jackie's back was <hes> Eh Lewis at a screening of it and all three of them were there and cutting up and <hes> people started talking about it and I was talking about it too and I thought on two hundred zero. Oh my God like this is could be a fucking thing guys. Let's do it so I just WanNa make it a thing. I remember where we were came from this tangent but by the way to live on the family in the live Jefferson's I mean like I feel like live. Golden Girl hates back-door pilot. I'm I'm seeing here for it in sector produced by me. I don't want anything to do with automakers bothering me. I really think there's you've got an answer. That's coming to me right now. To Sicily Tyson is sort of in the area but that's not jobs and Marley sure that you want brilliant brilliant like comedic timing timing and great writing. That's all you need for girls and like they're all right as all the rights like it's would be amazing higher tyler. Let's do beef any we ain't got. We never had beef by the way but the idea of my phone ringing not knowing WHO's calling. I know my this is there was some beef. There was a moment for the biscuit sandwich to come. I didn't want him to know enough but I was like like you know. I don't like a moment that I wanted to have with him though because I wanted him to know where my heart was and and this idea of Sam Sam who like hates Tyler Perry in the world of white people meeting Tyler Perry on campus and Duke Kanat out I just I had this like this fan fiction fantasy of that and I got I got to do it as Jerry Schuyler this sort of character that comes to campus to teach black film but that Sam does not respect the two of them going it added over the images on screen while Sam other things going down so <hes> but that was like the nexus that was like that that story idea and using that to Kinda navigate how complicated this shit is once you've announced arrival. I think all of going through this like the black lives all of the movements are now entering their like their next phase like we're all kind of having to mature and take it from like that initial bursts of outrage and turn it into something and but that's not an obvious thing they do is really hard is difficult and so I wanted to give the kids that kind of a struggle this season great well. Tell us when season three draw August motherfucking second is going to be the blackest day ever because what's going to happen August seconds. You're going to get all episodes missile dear white people then you're GonNa get Robin the-these Black Lady Sketch show which looks amazing race on him yeah just literally like just take the day like just like some candles okay play. Just give your let the ancestors pour into you on that day. Take on the whole guy hang onto your love me. Oh you pick smooth operator operator all right. We'll be right back. Are you a morning person you know I am not yeah. 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I purchase half off you what had regret it. You've always loved the kindness of wandering yeah this drama on the set of big little lies. Can you imagine Nicolette Sheridan showed up and with slapping. Everybody thought of I would like to join season three. I think this is the correct answer Vanessa Williams <hes>. I think she would contend well. There's a new house reference out like yeah. She's just just joining soap operas with <hes> predominantly white women right. It's a multi verse now yeah so anyway I don't want and big little lies these three by the way uh-huh please keep that far away for <hes> anyway. ruas are surfaced now that the current season two director Andrea Arnold <hes> she who directed withering hides American honey being which I loved <hes> was basically hire to direct season two for Shell. She directed season two because John Mark Valet couldn't commit to the project because it conflicted with him doing sharp objects <hes> so Andrew directed directed the show apparently and then John Mark Valet came back at the end and edited the show himself and even did some new shooting that is very crazy. Well what's weird is like so when I think of Andrea Arnold American honey is very distinct directorial experience to to give the show to her is a gigantic move and up bold move when you watch season to the feel of the show is the exact same season one so if in fact her like footprint is on the show in some way like I can't can't really guess what that is it this India why article it does feel accurate to me in that I feel like I am just seeing more of him of yeah. Yeah he also ordered seventeen additional days of photography as well so even if there weren't shots <hes> that they could salvage from her to make it look like him. They went in and shot footage that looks like what he did last year as well so essentially she was a hired gun and show does look like him. You know it. It doesn't look anything like what you would expect from Andrew Arnold having seen her films and it's a shame too because I felt like last year they really sort of were promoting the idea that she was wearing. That'd be the director I thought season two completely different look and feel so they made this huge deal out of hiring a woman only to erase her in favor of the style of a man got it is exactly okay all right. We'll also and it appears. There is some editing trauma with the show because there's weird episodes that are short. There's it just doesn't seem to be as medias the previous year and it feels like something that is patchwork. Let's work together a little bit more so than before. There are a lot of flashbacks this season yeah to. How many times do we need to see Perry being shoved down the stairs Ri- right and at the beginning of every episode to it's also worth noting we had Adam Scott here last week and we adore? I assume this has nothing to do with him. But of course broke yes right. He got rid of Andrew Arnold himself. Oh you think so right that is trying to is up to it. Andrew Arnold someone who followed him on yeah. This is like a weird disturbing story. I saw a I remember this Jacksonville writers name but I saw tweet saying the idea of women controlled stories as often just an artificial feeling like you don't know how much they're actually contributing to a vision or if the the men see secretly in charge your valuing that vision or whatever right because this show is John Mark Valley's look and feel right and Davey Kelly's the writer <hes> so we're the within behind the scenes around besides like reese and Laura dirt and Nicole Kidman you know etc you know they're not a soup son of Liane Moriarty right you know and so it really is just sort of this idea that so many shows like this soaps like this because this yeah. This is David Kelly has right again. It's been this season feels very David. Kelly <hes> it's we keep getting these shows and they're mostly created by men you know and it's I just thought that we would have something different. This season and it really is returning to a lot of season. Ones you know like greatest hits. That'd be good. It does feel a lot like not much his happened or like I it's. It's all very foreboding like all better. Come out in this episode. All of these storylines better like amp up. You know what I mean <hes> but <hes> yeah I the now I don't know if they can possibly move towards the season three based on this fallout. I'm just watching because I really like all the characters I know and the performances coming rate and so I I like that and I do but I do. I watch you for you every Sunday and then I'm like Oh. I guess I do have this other. Show there. Let me just and it's I don't know but I really liked the characters but the first couple episodes that's not what I expected. <hes> does remind me of again. Desperate housewives like season two was notoriously messy Alfre woodard joins and she was <hes> keeping her son hostage on a basement chained up <hes> <hes> is that is that worse than Bonnie's mom showing up and being a witch and also the way this story line is concluding with her. I mean she's obviously gonNA come out. She came out of that income or whatever and not to spoil anything. But how on Earth are they going to tie that up in some reasonable way my the only thing that's coming to minds became Nicole Kidman. Is You ever seen the movie birth wearing it's a movie that seems paranormal and then there's a logical explanation for what occurs or is that actually punks it even deeper into real life. I hope they find out they figure out something like that. You know so that it's not just and and Voodoo is the fifth girl a big little spell that would sell in the room. You could get and there's also been this idea that listen television is not a director's medium right. I would not have been shot shots to see the show looking exactly the same <hes> because when you hire a director for television show their spouse to fit the mold of what the pilot looked like you know it's supposed to be Iraq or there to shoot the show and keep it moving but yes there was very much this idea that we were supposed to get something different for season to <hes> and I think we've seen story wise beat wise look wise is it's been the same as season one so it just really feels sort of like Andrew Arnold's name was used for Promo <hes> and clout and now we don't get any of her and it's sad and it makes sense to because you know Mike where she bins you in the beginning interviews thinking of where's The soundbite I wanna hear it yeah. It's like sources close to her said that she is devastated by the experience of having valley take over the show according to vulture a yeah well I mean we did get six straight episodes Kravitz looking like she had the worst migraine ever which I guess I value yeah. I just find myself staring then I'm zoning out and don't know what what happened is a lot of silence anyway so so it's fine screams Laura I love I think she deserves the emmy over Merrill I for me because they're going to get great recess weirdly moved into supporting this year is she. I feel like in the south trail. She's not driving the story like she was last year and her storyline feels like a B.. Story you know <hes> performances are really great. Oh no there are so addictive. <hes> you know I I would compare it to sharp objects. I don't know if I love the narrative of sharp objects but like you can really meditate in the like <hes> the severity of of those performances and in the serenity of the surroundings verity serenity the one thing as we are managed to do right you know it's like if this is David Kelly show it's busily primetime soap opera <hes> actresses of this caliber and like Meryl Streep would never have signed on to do like died AC- or like a desperate housewives or even even like the practice right on network T._v. but because it's H._B._O.. You can tell that same story but when you put like you know art house directing and like crashing waves and like music over it. It seems like it's more elevated than other T._v.. Shows that they would maybe ignore totally. No I mean you're right this is this is sort of a show that is vamp te into something then it probably would be hard to get away with murder doing amazingly and it's fun to watch but that show is what it is right you know like if it were as we or something they would try to address it up to make it seem like cinematic not just a soapy legal procedural cereal yeah correct yeah wow season three who hired a direct yeah I know but I want the cavs newcast we're big three and then once it's done trimark valet will have ah the actresses comeback and just reshoot was the way they interviewed the townspeople in the first season except it's just the cast. It's just the crew of big little lies talking about their experience. What happened to Andrea Arnold Tuck? He pushed her. We're back keep it and we're back with our favorite second episode. It is keep it. Louis jaw is a gate jar. It's I just haven't under bite. It's unintentional. Ah My keep it. This week is as basic as they come. It's too that face APP old man old face filter guys I. I want you to have your fun. I want you to enjoy the telephones that you own. I want you to share fun on things with your friends. I also want those things to stay with your friends. My entire twitter timeline my entire instant. Timeline is filled with just gross out Rick Baker looking photos of are you at age one hundred seventy five. I'm not saying I don't think it's eight just to say you look so gross. It disturbs the Zen of my time mine which is filled with you know things we all love such as very symmetrical nipples apples of good looking men <hes> the occasional food item that I will enjoy Glenn close with blueberries in her is to be all see that picture looking like she was in the balcony yeah what she looked like with a wallison gromit. You'd have to see this picture on clothes she she kinda plays instagram for me but some point is the point is that people well don't know how to use instagram feed versus stories right it yeah using the story but it in your story. I don't need to see it in my time line right especially since people rarely have like a a good caption to go with you need to give me actual content. I'm here for the wit terrible at caption. Oh my God you're so many posts. You're picking go so I'm not I can't give you a Bible verse. This is just so I'm just GONNA Smiley face. 'cause I just want you to focus my photos. Go with Psalms Twenty three. It's always like a booty pick and a Bible like Ma'am so I'm just saying control your content. Don't post a picture of yourself off looking like one of the zombies from the Thriller Video. I just don't not not only do not want to see it. Think about who wants to see it ultimately. Is it anybody if the answer is now consider not doing you can go people not wanting to see things on instagram <hes> <hes> you were at San Diego Pride this week and you missed the crooked summer party second year in a row. I'm going to say that one of the host of America said that <hes> jarring to scroll through their instagram feed and all of a sudden Lewis's naked we all have a great time at San Diego Pride. What are you supposed to do in San Diego Close <music> skateboarding resort? You have to find something fun to do. Are you in San Diego every weekend. Are you making every week or not be curtain. Okay eleven girl. It's like the emperor has no clue girl until the age twenty nine. I had the body of tapeworm okay. That's a little pride allowing. I feel you thank you okay all right Brooke. What is your Mike Keep? It is stop asking Serena Williams stupid questions in those post-game press conferences like over the weekend everyone was talking about she was asked if she should stop focusing on equality eighty and activism and focused on tennis what King right so really just leave her alone. It should just be not even just press conferences leave Serena. Does she not do enough for us. There was also I I still nope. I read kings exact quote. I still don't know what she was saying. She kind of clarified that she wasn't saying. She didn't want her to stop focusing on activism shoes. You're saying she has a lot of stuff with the stuff. She named was activism <unk> her child her business. I was confused. What do I have just I watched the movie about Billie Jean Kings activism what Billy Jus just mad that they weren't sticking lesbians on weeds boxes in one thousand nine hundred seventy three weird three nail who gets asked that you would never has that to anyone else? You know what's interesting is always I'm always so thankful for athletes who can give smart interesting responses to questions just period because you know what is there to say the sport presents itself you one you lost whatever but actually what I need to be more impressed with journalists who as interesting question of these athletes because you need to set them up like the part of the job of being an interviewer viewer is giving these great people who do a lot for us. You know reason to say something cool. There was one where someone said during the congratulations on the win but it was a little scrappy <hes> and she was like that was a nice you should apologize the worst member of the do family scrappy as the height alone and yet no one liners gum slapping clapping. I also think part of that problem is that Serena sort of is the only one doing it right. I mean tennis isn't really a sport with a lot of black people or <hes> you know non nine straight people as well who are very visible so there aren't that many people who can really make sort of political statements all the time while they're playing tennis as opposed to basketball or football. You know it's like they are constantly making political statements. I mean people don't like to either but you expected more issues a bunch of black men plant more like the W._n._B._A.. Or even the women's soccer team you know like they're making comments about L._G._B._T._Q.. He writes in America and equal. Pay You know and it's <hes> Serena really is just out there and so loud because just doing when you say Andy Murray pipes up every once in a while but you're right. He's sort of like. Should it be okay. I guess it's me that's like the young black women who are coming up in some of them are still girls and like cocoa who beat Venus and note Serena they they're only playing because of three and in Venus and I think that's so cool that we're to that point now. Three uh-huh are still playing sometimes. I know this is like elementary but sometimes it's think about. I bought my first CD when I was twelve and it was natalie. IMBRUGLIA has left at the middle specifically. Remember listening to that and watching Venus Williams play. She is still playing so crazy I was wondering during how are you going to get from from torn. Watch me you did it. I trusted me. Six degrees of Louis always go from some White Woman C._D.. So the topic and I love what the we're not much where where we go it came back around. I use it. It does not cover yes I when the Internet found that out I was so disappointed in the Internet Swab nineteen ninety-three the Internet links to discover things years later anyway my keep it. This week is to the Internet <hes> so apparently there's a lot of drama happening at area fifty. One one of them are popular areas. Get listen. I love aliens but I feel like I had no idea that area fifty thirty one was trending because there was a facebook group of people who wanted to storm area fifty one correct in September to get the secrets to get if you run really fast at area fifty one they have no choice. Let's go to find Dana scully so there were so many alien means happening on the Internet and it was a lot of non sets because I thought this was actually fucking happening at area fifty one. I thought that trump had accidentally revealed something. I thought that there was actually attack there. <hes> I thought that there was something going on that had anything to do with reality and not just I a group of crazy people wanting to storm era fifty one and you had that reaction like when whatever betty white is trending and yeah I thought she was dead. I made a joke about how I hate when people do that and then Padma Watch me on followed me because I think she had just done that and I didn't see it Padma comeback. I'm such a nice person followed. I think about constantly I talked about it with Adam Scott last week. Oh God he's somebody on followed him to. He really commiserated well hilarious but do we leave him noticed. I know it's thank no good good observation Brooke but yeah do we think pacman is running that Akao yes yes does she. Does she tweet every tweet though yes. What do you mean I mean I feel like some of the tweets tweets are very right there workshops in the way that like Madonna every once in a while we'll have perfect punctuation? It's like Oh Warner brothers like that. You know or like you know like sometimes they seem like a writer's room joke. Oh Eh she's interested enough in comedy. That would be surprised if she didn't true yes well. Maybe we'll get Padma on the show and confront her about following you burst into tears in front of her or maybe so never come on now because because you you shame to her and she's now it's now. They're my actual. Keep it is to lose retell keeping back from can forgive you cheese forgiven for the whole tap chef episode on the plantation plantation. She can forgive Oh. Wow completely forgot about that. Yes Wow yes. We're talking about now. One Yeah shutout to weekly World News. I miss when aliens were just fully on display play at checkout. Whenever you went jazz yes flyer it would be like betty white kid up alien right now or whoever's popular at the time L. Laws July can bury well? She twenties right. Yes I think betty white spin on national enquirer every decade PROBAB- all I want to check out that stat literally older than sliced bread. That's that's true issue. Yes she's born nineteen twenty two year after my grandma's boy sliced bread is later in the twenties Romans were sliced bread. That's crazy. Julius Caesar's nickname was bred though so technically they were slice and Brad what the fuck is that jared Woosley stabbed him and that has done with breath. We need to get you to an Improv class well. You're supposed to yes Ann Lewis I know and what the fuck also acceptable in this case. I believe <hes> well anyway. The federal government is has warned people not disturb area fifty one because they will be ready so maybe in September. We'll talk about a bunch of dead people that area fifty one. That'd be fun now all right. What is that show? We'll see you next week. Keep it as a product of crooked media. Caroline restaurant is our producer our editor.

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Trump and Biden head to the Midwest

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Marriage Story

Pop Culture Happy Hour

16:27 min | 1 year ago

Marriage Story

"Hey before we start the show. The guys aren't even in here yet. Stephen and Glenn have not arrived. I need to talk to you about what we're doing right now. Which is asking for your support for your local all station to help support our show? And you may know there's me there's Glamour Stephen There are producers but you know we talk about the fourth chair you you know who the fifth chair is. The fifth chair is the fifth chair. Is You and when you give your support to your station. You see them they can help. NPR and NPR takes care of us. And then you get to continue to listen to the show and so even though you might listen to us on your phone or in your car and not on your regular radio. That is how you support us and help us. That's what pays for production. That's what pays for all of the cost of making the show and it makes it possible for us to bring you all of the episodes and all of the the TV conversations and movie conversations that we brought to you this year and that we hope to bring to you next year so to you. Our Fifth Chair are great. Thanks go to donate donate dot. NPR DOT org slash. Happy and support your local station. What's The opposite of a love story? It might be the new Noah Baumbach Film Marriage Story starring Adam driver and Scarlett Johansson as a couple. We meet when they're just starting their divorce for the next two few hours we watch them argue and negotiate over how to separate and had a CO parent their young son marriage story also stars Laura dern Ray Liotta as aggressive divorce lawyers and Alan alda as a gentler hand who tries to give less combative representation bombeck wrote and directed the film which is now streaming on Netflix and the film. Recently we picked up six golden globe. Nominations I'm Stephen Thompson and I'm Linda Holmes. We're talking about marriage story today on pop culture happy hour from NPR. So don't go away support for pop. Culture happy hour and the following message come from green from Amex always on the lookout for the latest trends from your local bubble tea joints off the beaten in path brewery tours green from AMEX can help you discover more with three times points on restaurants and travel including transit like taxis ride shares very derides and subway swipes. It's built around your lifestyle so you can keep doing you with an extra boost of confidence. Learn more at American Express Dot com uh-huh slash green from AMEX terms apply. Welcome back you just met. NPR Music Stephen Thompson. Also with us is Glen Weldon of the NPR arts dusk. Hi Glen in Portland and in our fourth chair. Today we're happy to welcome back below Karachi blow reports and produces cultural coverage for NPR. Blow everyone or so delighted needed to have you back so I want to go to you first Glenn because I've spoken quite a bit about marriage story I've written about it. You can read my review at NPR dot. Org talked to me about how you you feel about this film Well I think it does exactly what it sets out to do which might be a little bit surprising because you have to believe that they would be a couple. We'd have to believe these people would be together and you also have to believe that they would be incompatible four. The reasons specified that each complain about. They can't just assert that their incredible edible and then go from there. We have to see their complaints. Dramatized inaction we have to recognize that they are right about each other in that they just don't belong together another other way film like this could fall into a trap is if it felt like score-settling if it felt like it could be titled. I was right along and certainly a lot of break-up dramatization feel that way this doesn't from You know people are talking a lot about whether or not it's even handed. I just think by it. And what's interesting about the film for me. Is that It is so at kind of a cool all emotional temperature for so much of it and gets kind of legally and processing and you start to wonder. Well this is good. I'm really enjoying this. But where's the Oscar real moment. Where's their big and it happens? And all all of that you understand that the film has been kind of avoiding that big emotional conflict because they have a boarding that big emotional conflict and when it comes it pays off in a in a huge way. So yeah I dug it. How thank you law? Well I have to confess that I saw this within six months of getting married and I found it absolutely terrifying haunted by it ever seen yet At Toronto at the same time. I think that you did that. And I think part of it was that as much as it's also portrait of divorce also seems to be very beautifully observed portrait of marriage ars itself like the daily quotidien things that they do. Whether it's how people you know eat or drink or what they what. Their habits are really going to nerves. All of those details are so finally catch. Watch that I found the radical domesticity of it also partly really terrifying But I I I think the thing that I really left move buys the writing because I mean I think the screenplay of this film is just extraordinary from the opening to the way an ends and how it all started through. And you're a novelist and I'd be curious to know to how you felt about this because it feels like all the right details are underscored in our line to to build the cumulative effect that it has so I I thought it was amazing. They're also both like icons of kind of my generation nation. I feel the millennial star so to see them. Scarlett Johansson and Adam driver as a married couple as a thirty something couple. I imagine I don't know this felt closer to like people who have recently been married and our generation which is partly why it's I think terrifying is on my friends to watch it or not to watch it. Yeah I've said it was terrifying and it is I mean my reaction to it was very similar to that. I think I think it's a beautifully constructed film. And I think that there have been a lot of people going back and forth as Glenn mentioned about sort of is even-handed and people who don't like him and people who don't like her and people who don't like him but think the movie is on his side that to me is kind of reductive has been kind of productive argument about this movie. Because you know I do think that there are some differences in how much kind of emotional weight you get from the two of them. But without spoiling anything I'll just say I think that's because of how it's going for them. I think you're always going GonNa see somebody for whom the process is a little easier and somebody for whom it's a little harder and a little more challenging. Stephen below watched this as someone who was recently married. You're divorced I think people know you're divorced. Tell me how you felt about this film. Well I got divorced from the years. Twenty tend to two thousand twelve and watching this kind of like if they made a movie about the Green Bay packers losing the Super Bowl in nineteen ninety eight. It happened a long time ago. I'm basically over it but I'm still not ready to relive it at the same time. I absolutely loved this movie and Blah. You mentioned the writing and this script is so incredibly important and key to this movie movie because it manages to be really realistic about how a lot of this stuff plays out. I think it's fair to both characters and it is ultimately in and really interesting and I think very true as it is critiquing the system that leaches of these people at their most vulnerable moments. The portrayal of the divorce lawyers in this movie made me just sit there hating divorce lawyers and but at the same time. I think it's kind of fair to them too. But you see how this process is plays out where everybody gets so emotionally invested the lawyers who are kind of treating this as sport and you're just sitting there like Oh man get a mediator her you just see like sacks of money with flapping wings you right but at the same time Steven one of the things you and I talked about. Was I also understand when I watched this movie. Why the Scarlett Johansson character who was the first one to go out and sort of higher? This aggressive lawyer played by Laura dern. I understand why she does. Is that because the the atom driver character. Charlie is more kind of verbal and kind of more arguing than she is. She feels uncomfortable after bill. He's a theater guy she thinks of herself as you know. I'm an actress and he's a director and it feels you can tell in her head. He's sort of the smart smart one or had there's a power imbalance in our hat right and in her head when they argue she's at a disadvantage. So you understood. I understood why she wanted to go out and get a lawyer who is aggressive. And there's a really interesting piece in slate where an actual divorce lawyer talks about this. This film and how realistic a lot of it is and also kind of talks about how. It's sort of difficult for her her to watch it because she feels like. Do we really come across like that. narrator yeah so what she didn't but what she didn't say was nothing would ever get this different recall. What struck me about Laura dern character whose skull Johnson's Lawyer is that when they first meet. She says to her after sitting on the couch and kind of throwing off your shoes and kind of getting getting really cozy like which is going to have a time to talk. She says you know part of what we're going to do here. Tell your story and I thought that was a really interesting idea to send so much of what we've we've been talking about. It seems to me more broadly culturally especially when it comes to gender dynamics is like when do women's stories get heard. Do they tell their story. And their this element went of this macarthur genius grant. Winning Feeder director actor played by Adam driver already a large tall figure. You know I think that moment is really moving that of course she wants to finally feel heard and that idea of like who's heard and who's not I think is conveyed while yes it's weaponized by the divorce lawyers. I also thought it was really beautifully. Beautifully articulated by that idea. I'd argue that. It felt like a little bit more interesting. If we weren't clear that Adam drivers character was good at what what he does. But getting that Macarthur Genius Grant kind of tells us what the movie wants us to think about his art. Also it would be interesting if maybe Scarlett Johansson isn't a great actress. I mean like there's something something about that that I i. I like a little bit more ambiguity in that I think would be enjoyable but we keep saying you know devastating terrifying. There's humor in this movie. You don't cast merit weaver for like a blink and you'll miss her one scene charlatan. Hanson joins insist cast Julie Hagerty as as Scarlett Johansson mother without knowing okay. We need to step step off the gas every so often and just allow this. Allow these people to breathe as this relationship is dying. I think it's really important to note like you said Gun. You don't WanNa get too caught up in how wrenching this movie is because I ultimately found it enormously Cathartic and enormously in a strange way enjoyable to the point where yeah. I've been sitting here you know it's on Netflix. Already Netflix and I'm so glad it's on Netflix. Because everybody can see it at once and talk about it. I'm actually thinking about seeing it again. Like just like sitting down on and watching it again. See that one coming right like you would think so. Triggering it's painting some painful spots but it ultimately is a very very entertaining movie with a lot of really wise thoughts on a subject That is Not Dear to me but close. It's also just really I find it. Visually just very warm. I think it has this grainy film star quality to it. It looks kind. Anybody else felt about this as well. But I mean the way that it it is both also severely a pleasing film to watch and additionally I love the way that you mentioned Glenn it has a lot of fun. It has a lot of fun with New York versus La sure which I have to say that is like an ongoing constant discussion in some. You know whatever people always talk about that comparison but I felt this movie had the most fun with it and did a lot with it because that's one of the central questions as one one character wants to move to La. The other has wanted to stay in New York. And so there's theater and there's TV and it's you know people on glasses as soon as they're in La. And then. Clint people all. I have like lots as and it's just an interesting way that it plays with that. This film is also exceptionally well. Cast because when you cast Laura dern and apart there's already some momentum we already they kind of know who that character is same thing with Ray Liotta just the minute you see him and Allen all of course there's so much that's going on where it's taking our preconceived notions and not exploiting them but sort of using them to produce the story. They don't dwell on it a lot. But there's a scene where you the competing divorce lawyers are kind of chumming it up in the hallway because they know each other because they're constantly going to battle with each other and you get how it becomes a sport to them one of the things that the real divorce lawyer and the sleep peace talks about an answer. A question about is what about this part where the lawyers are all having this very intense battle all and then they break for lunch and it's kind of like okay. So what does everybody wanted to have for lunch. And the lawyer basically said like that made my blood run cold because that is sort of what happens. It'll be like everybody fighting and then kind of are we going to get pizza for lines often. Just say that scene is one of the scenes in watching it a second time because I did watch it a second time which I find. You know it's it's it's a really powerful film and it's equally powerful to me at. I felt the second time the scene that Linda you just mentioned. It's the scene where the lawyers are going to just very generically. have their orders orders and talking to very but the couple like Adam drivers confused about what to order has now to be ex wife who turns and two picks up the menu and says I'm GonNa Order for because I know what he likes and I felt like the way that the film to me left the ambiguous is that if the divorce industrial complex had not intervened with this couple have stayed together. Some how would this would. These arguments have been less weaponized. I felt like that's the thing that the film also does a really smart job of leaving open ended Showing us this and yet also showing there are very legitimate grievances that they needed to resolve and address one of the things that I find most heartbreaking about the story and one of the reasons. I think it's so difficult is that I think a lot of the reason why they are. Separating is just they want to do different things that are not compatible. It's not necessarily early and I think you'd get this by the end of the film. It's not necessarily that. He is bad or she is bad but she wants to live in. La For her acting career. He wants to live in New York for his theater career. That's where his theater company is. They have a child who cannot simultaneously live in both places. That's going to end badly for somebody if if not for everybody and so. I like the fact that that's kind of where the the biggest incompatibility lands. I also really admire and appreciate the fact that they start this film with the two montages that were in the trailers which are her talking about the things she loves about him and him talking talking about the things he loves about her. which kind of steep sue in the understanding that these are decent human beings who have loved each other? I think that's a very smart script and direct to`real decision to begin with those very sweet. You know where you see. These flashes of a marriage that was successful judges so those are that a seven and a half minutes of the first seven minutes of the film. Are Those love letters. Essentially to each other about what they love which is amazing in the sense that like a film about divorce as you said the steep Syrian that for the first almost eight minutes is quite amazing direct decision to I think and then it comes back to those letters in some way I found. I'm an amazing. Actually Yeah and of course I always appreciate a film that has a little Stephen Sondheim and this one does And you can read more about that in any number of places places after you've seen the movie but But we won't spoil that right this minute. All right well let us know what you think of marriage store is on Netflix. Now and you can find it. There and then find us on facebook at facebook dot com slash P. 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Ep 212: Megan Foxs Comment, Beyonc for Vogue, Scarlett & Colin, Bieber Doc, Addison & Bryce, + A Kardashian Recap & More

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1:05:08 hr | 2 months ago

Ep 212: Megan Foxs Comment, Beyonc for Vogue, Scarlett & Colin, Bieber Doc, Addison & Bryce, + A Kardashian Recap & More

"Hi guys i'm emma. I'm julie and we're the girls line comments isolates and welcome back to another episode age rule. I have you guys. Today's julie's birthday. Are you mad at me for saying that. Well of course thing is julie not the. She hates her birthday. But it's definitely not her thing she doesn't like to be celebrated and i love to celebrate her so i get a lot of enjoyment out of it and i think that you secretly probably do on some level on some level. I'm happy get him out of it. That gives me enjoyment. We also have birthday energy today. It's monday morning. We rarely do monday morning recording. So i just think it's going to be a good one. Yeah i think so too. I'm excited about this effort. So as you guys know every week or highlighting black owned business and last week. I had such you. Is you know we're really looking to highlight our listeners. Businesses or their friends. So if you go to our website and you go to the contact us page. You're just your suggestions. Thank god we said that because we have gotten the most epic submissions and this one honestly. I haven't gotten yet. I literally just ordered it after this person submitted it. But you sound brilliant. So it was a company called in booze and it was founded by this woman. Ashley evans jettisoned. Eighteen and her whole thing was that she wanted an easier and healthier way for people to enjoy cocktails at home. So she sells these alcohol and future kits and they're basically like little teabags they've different flavors there. Lavender lemonade margarita. Excetera and they infuse fruits spices and herbs. So one you know in also. It's kind of like you're having this very fancy bar like experience in your house. Even if you don't know how to make a drink they kind of take the hardware out of it for you. I just think it's absolutely brilliant concept and the websites. Inbox dot com. The se shop is at in boos. Instagram is at in goose kits. So thank you whoever's admitted that and definitely check this out okay jewel. Let's do sally. Let's do it so we're going to start with news that broke last night. Julian i just casually sitting down. And all of a sudden we get in this meghan fox comment which. I'm sure you've seen my now. Let me just take you through it. All so brian austin green posts a photo of himself from halloween. And in the photo you can see two of his children one is kind of cropped out and one you can see and meghan comments. Why does journey have to be in. This picture is not hard to crop them out or choose. Photos aren't in. I had a great halloween within yesterday and yet notice how apps they are for my social media. I know you love your kids. But i don't know why you can't stop using them to posture via instagram. You're so intoxicated. With feeding the pervasive narrative. That i'm an absent mother and you are the perennial eternally dedicated out of the year. You have them half of the time. Congratulations you truly are A remarkable human. Why do you need the internet to echo back to you should be in exhaustively evident in the way that your children love you. Okay that happens. Obviously we freak and we post it. I just want to clarify something really quickly. This was not a child anonymity issue. both brian. Meghan have repeatedly posted their children on their accounts. Her point was much more about the fact of him posting it especially when the child was in the focus and her point that he was feeding into some sort of a narrative so before even continue. I just want to make that point because there have been plenty of times when there have been good comments on top rossi photos of kristen bell. Dax shepard's kids blake lively and ryan reynolds and we have never and would never post those because the celebrities have made it unbelievably evident that they don't want their kids faces out there. We also anytime there's something even remotely relating to children that could come across off. We specifically asked the celebrity. So i just wanna make it clear. This was not an anonymity issue because they both have repeatedly posted their children. Okay that an hour. Or so later he deletes the post and re uploads it without the kidde. Then his ex wife vanessa. Marcel posted a photo on instagram. That said like. I said the truth always comes out in the end dot dot dot and the caption is hashtag sister. Just a refresher on their relationship. Him and vanessa started dating in nineteen ninety nine. They met on the set of nine. Oh two one. Oh and they got engaged. July two thousand one. They had their kid one year later. They were supposed to get married but they ended up ending it so they got engaged but never got married. There's been some things previously where she's kind of spoken out in support meghan because i think that her and brian relationship isn't that good either but that is kind of the most recent update to all of this something really funny. Yeah when that when his ex's comment or instagram came in and somebody sends us they sent it i Any contact obviously didn't know who she was. I didn't rise. That was his ex wife. And when i saw the hashtag with usa sister i thought that it was something referring to james. Charles tweeted out hugging up with a tiktok way and then the girl walking at at i was trying to figure out based on her instagram. How it possibly could relate to james charles. That's the funny. You didn't tell me that. In the moment. I was like oh this is like this obviously couldn't have less to do with james charles. I just saw the word sister to sue. That is hilarious. No so listen. This comment came in and people have so many different opinions. I think there's a lot here. What i want to mention because i think it's important in order to fully understand the picture here in august on august fifth right after megan fox and machine gun. Kelly's start getting more serious. She posted a mirror selfie with him and she captioned it achingly beautiful boy. My heart is yours immediately after. Brian posted a picture of their three kids. And his kid with vanessa and wrote achingly beautiful boys. My heart is yours as kind of a direct. Fuck you which again in her defense plays into that exact narrative jay talking about him trying to create her being this absent mother. That was kind of very clearly a fuck you and you saw when we posted at our common section was really slip people taking different sides. I personally don't have that much emotional investment in this. But i will just say. I think it's very interesting that the same people that thought it was funny and applauded him for that move are now criticizing her for that comment. I think it would be wrong of us. Do not at least acknowledged hypocrisy there because there's something about her speaking of the people don't want to deal with versus when he does it so. I think that that's worth mentioning. Yeah absolutely and also a lot of people are commenting on our posts. And i think we've got some dams about it to saying like why couldn't meghan have just dmt him or texted him or call him like it was a ridiculous thing to post publicly but her point in posting publicly was so that everyone was aware of the narrative that he was trying to create not just trying to get it to stop on his end but trying to let the public see like. This is what he's doing. This is how i feel about it. You can only do that in somewhat of a public comment exactly. This is not a kathy hilton situation. She accidentally did it thinking that it was a dm. I mean this is like clearly a very intentional move which is why personally we felt totally comfortable posting it. Because she wanted that out there we ended. I think we posted an hour or two after she had made the original comment so it wasn't like she posted immediately deleted it. She knew exactly what she was doing. She wanted that message known. And i understand that like in theory. This entire thing should have happened privately. Ideally but that's just not how their divorce has gone down and it is upsetting to the kids. I totally agree. It's not how it should be for the kids. But i think at a certain point she just had it in felt like she needed to kind of defend herself. Yeah and that's what we said. When he opposed that originally we were like we understand the kind of joking nature in him using the same caption and posting a picture of their sons. But they what he was insinuating by doing. This was fact that she couldn't be in a relationship with somebody else in couldn't have love life in a life of her own without sacrificing her love for our kids. And that's not the case. And i think that she kind of just hit her breaking point with this where she was. I have to say something to us. I think as the public was like okay. What's the big deal here. Like you guys posted the kids before. It was a halloween costume like etc. All of those things. I think on horrendous carried a much different message and it was clearly something that bothered her and she just couldn't hold it anymore. Yeah exactly. I don't think you can fault someone for that. Because i do agree. In an ideal world this entire thing would have happened privately. All of their issues. But it just hasn't been the case. And i think she's sick and tired of this this story. That's being kind of painted about her. Because you're right what you said about the fact that his post was insinuating. His initial post was insinuating that she can't be unhappy relationship also being loving mother. That's not just an issue. That's isolated to her. That is something that women deal with constantly. They're not allowed to have joy separate from their children. And i think she probably just felt frustrated by it so like yeah it sucks that this is also messy but also is just reality and we had to update you guys that because that was some wild shit while And this is what we talk about all the time. Also just mcmahon perspective leaving them out of the equation at all. We talked about the difference between reality star comments celebrity hamas and how celebrity comments are usually more calculated in tamed and reality star comments tend to play out like a reality. Show the reason that this was so crazy. Aside from megan fox being famous The comment being crazy as it was just because you don't see celebrities regularly comment things close to this. Yes definitely the reality television element of it. But also i think the fact that megan fox is not an active commodore by any means so just the fact that she was speaking out publicly in the comments section to me at least was very kind of unique yet. That was the first megan fox comment. We posted right ever. I mean remember after machine gun. Kelly's post all those things. We so badly just wanted to comment from her and we never got it and you know it's funny is like i was just thinking like maybe she'll start commenting more. There's no way there's no way that league. This is going to be the comment. That prompts her wanna comment more. Oh no i think this was like i hit my breaking point. I wanna tell the world how i feel and then i'm gonna go back to kind of being inactive and they never saw megan fox comment again honestly wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't either. I i i don't. We've ones like this caliber. I just want to see her commenting on machine. Gun kelly's stove. I literally could not be more obsessed with a couple. No obviously same. But i don't think we'll see i think maybe maybe right. Maybe this kinda put it in the other direction. I don't know i feel like we. Aren't that emotionally invested in this. All those people really are on the people in our comments section and so we just wanted to kind of present. This is that people are talking about. And i don't know we'll keep you updated if anything else. Anything else transpires. I know that a couple of outlets had reached out to him for comment. He hasn't gone back to them yet. So we'll see and by the way just in terms of being emotionally invested like i'm personally emotionally invested but i think during quarantine you could become emotionally invested in pretty much anything if you wanted to. Oh my god. I mean yes. As evidenced by the way we feel about the two couples which will get into at the end talk about emotionally invested. Oh god literacy episode so we can get there okay so next thing. We wanted to quickly talk about. As i'm sure most of you saw scarlett johansson colin jost got married this weekend and it was announced the the meals on wheels instagram account and they posted or through break the news at scarlett johansson and colin jones remarried over the weekend in an intimate ceremony with our media family and loved ones following cova nineteen safety precautions as directed by the cdc. Their wedding wishes to help make a difference. We're vulnerable older adults during this difficult time by supporting meals on wheels america please consider donating to celebrate the happy couple by clicking. The lincoln are bio. Okay i shop before we get into the details kind of crazy that it was announced via meals on wheels post. What a move. I loved it because a lot of people have done that. They've announced then directed somewhere else to have this. Be the place where broke. The announcement was so genius and so like great. It was very unique. Don't you think yes so. It was kind of confirmed on this. Weekend's snl because michael j. said. I don't know what this world's gonna be after tuesday. I may never see again colin. I mean we might get drafted in the racehorse. It's not fair. You just marry scarlett. Johansson just bought an electric bike. We're both doing equally. Great colin also was wearing the ring just to give you guys a little bit of a time line. They first met in two thousand ten when she hosted. Snl then in march two thousand seventeen. She hosted it for the fifth time and this was right after. She had filed for divorce from her second husband. Just a reminder because i feel like people forget about this. She was married to ryan reynolds from two thousand eight. Two thousand eleven so she was on her first. Snl appearance she was married to ryan reynolds at that time. So crazy We forget about that so often every single time we talk about it. I forget that it ever happened me to. I don't know why it was definitely a big deal. At the time. I remember and i remember their divorce being kind of shocking to people but i feel like with a lot of x.'s and really major a list celebrities that have gotten divorced anytime. They're like remotely brought up in the same sentence if they're at the same award show like there's always some sort of article about their interactions and i just feel you never ever see that with ryan and scarlett. I completely agree. I mean probably just speaks to the like civil nature in which their divorce happened and also how happy they are in their current relationships navy. I don't know. I'll tell you one thing i'd reynolds definitely has a type definitely definitely so later on that march like a week after she was on. Snl for the fifth time they were seen getting closed at a cast party then made their first public appearance together. November two thousand seventeen at the american museum of natural history gala and then may of last year. They were engaged. He proposes with his eleven carat ring estimated to be around four hundred and fifty thousand and then just recently there save the dates went viral because it was literally on an index card and save dates. Garland colin are getting married. Prince sees trying to save money for the wedding with me. Yeah i just shows. She must not only gap but also celebrate his sense of humor. Because i can't think of a lot of other A-listers that would be down for that type of display. Oh absolutely absolutely. I like me too. I really do i. I've always been a fan of theirs. I think that the most we get out of them is kind of glimpses of him talking about her on s sinologist always great. I remember when oriented. Pete were dating. There was that whole thing about. Snl guys really hot wives or girlfriends and that was always really funny to me. That's the kind of stuff that happens when when a couple like this happens. Is all these very backhanded. Compliments to the guy was in these types of relationships. Wile colin never thought she could get it. He's he's spoken about that. How they're all these like. Pete was saying when he was on fallon or can. How ugly did you think. I was not aware of Not ugly at all iron. Colin is a handsome guy to actually nouri. Yeah i mean listen. Good for them. I love to see it. So i've spoken to you guys about core psalter before but they are launching the world's easiest volunteer program so whatever you're doing just by opening a can of course seltzer. You're volunteering so as we know. Our waterways are risk. Eighty percent of america's rivers are drying up so through their partnership would change. the course. cour- seltzer is helping to protect and restore america's rivers and the way that it works. is that each twelve. 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Dot com for every twelve packs sold through august thirty first two thousand twenty one causal purchase services from change the course to restore five hundred gallons of fresh river water detail of course dot com celebrate responsibly. Cores brewing company forth worth texas. So moving onto beyond say. Which is julie's favorite sentence. Probably in the entire in wish language Definitely my favorite sentence in the english language. She was on the cover of the december issue of british vogue. She had three separate covers and they were photographed by this twenty one year. Old young woman. kennedy carter. She is the youngest photographer to shoot a cover for british vogue in its entire hundred four year history. Which is pretty fucking believable. Oh my god it's so insane especially when you put it like that. that's crazy. yeah. I mean beyond say has been known to always want you know when she's has covered like this to be photographed by block photographers offers. She spoke about this actually in her interview. She always wants to create the diversity so lacking but the age of this woman is just unbelievable. I'm at twenty one years old and you were photographing three separate. Vote covers for beyond. Say like where do you go up from there. No i don't know that's that's a crazy thought. Where do you go from there. I don't know. I mean that's that's the equivalent. Vogue is probably one of the most prominent publications of our time. And if you're not doing beyond saying it's like michelle obama how else. How much higher could you get the queen of england. I guess i guess anyway. So we're not gonna go through this entire article. But i just want to read you guys the beginning from The author 'cause i loved how he started it so it was called. I've decided to give myself permission to focus on my joy. How beyond say tackle twenty twenty and was i edward. Nfl and he starts by saying it was always going to be special. How could it not be and yet. I'm not sure. I could have predicted how having beyond say an icon of fashion and culture for more than twenty years on british vogue cover. This month would finally come to pass as log onto my laptop one evening and early autumn to oversee the twelve hour. Shoot more than three thousand miles away in new york. I felt the thrill of the new. It was the culmination of months of preparation quote. It takes enormous patients to rock with me beyond say riley notes in our interview on the following pages in a rare and rounded glimpse at our world. Lemme tell you this. Rocking with fiance is electric. Although beyond prefers to let her work do the talking as she has the summer with extraordinary. Visual album block is king. She knew this was a moment to speak and speak. She does everything from the recent racial and social justice movements to her personal legacy fascinating creative process and much loved fashion label. Ib ivy park as well as life at home with husband. Jay z and children blue ivy eight and three year old twins. Surin roomy throughout it all beyond saito me. She had a very important goal. She wanted to have fun. Fun can radical act at the moment but at thirty nine. She's a woman in her prime happy and herself. Happy in her body and able to claim the power of that in the middle of the man is that has been twenty twenty. You'll see above all beyond say wants us to remember the rebelliousness and impact of a simple concept joy. I love that loved. I already in my head was like planning some sort of after longshore art. That had rocking with beyond as electric written on it. I mean that is just such an excellent sentence and i will say when she says rocky with me takes a lot of patients that is theme that we have constantly seen because of how much of perfection she is you know for example that is twelve hours not every cover shoot is twelve hours but she is so unbelievably specific and everything that she does. Which is the reason success. But i just loved that. Little element throws stormy in their. Let her let her have some beyond save patients. That's we need. So i'm just gonna read a couple of the questions. There was a bunch but you know she speaks a lot just in general about how she finds these different types of people and how they get on her radar and he says why is finding undiscovered talent. So important you she says not. Everyone has the opportunity to be higher to work at vogue or direct film or to create a clothing line and that is attributed to the lack of diversity in the room. I've been focused on changing that mentality with my projects. I've invested one hundred percent of my earnings into naked shirley the best people in production on the film because i know that the level of quality any production needs can be found in a diverse crew. You and i know it exists. I'm hoping this film will show that. We have to make a conscious decision to look into talent in multiple and diverse communities. She is the example. Though of somebody who doesn't just talk the talk. She walks the walk because she then hires those people to be in her productions. Sound like she's just saying that it should be the case. She is then the bond giving opportunity. I mean you saw it in black as king. Obviously you saw it so much. Homecoming there were a lot of stories about when she was expanding park and looking at different sneaker brands to go with that she walked out of a meeting because she didn't think that there was enough diversity on the team that they had set up for her like she walks that walk and she does it. So unapologetically in. That's that's why she's beyond say they also spoke about just the last couple of months and he asked her have these month perhaps also change you as a parent. How do you talk to belie the about current events. And what's your advice to parents in the same position trying to impart the hard realities of our children. She said become a better listener. Blue is very smart. And she's aware that there is a shift but it's my job as a parent to do my best to keep her world as positive and save his can be for an eight year old by the way holy shit levies eight. I can't believe she's eight. I had not believe it. My best advice to love them harder than ever. I let my daughter. no she's never too young to contribute to changing the world and never underestimate her thoughts and feelings and i check in with her to understand houses affecting her. She saw some of the reaction to the brown skinned girl video as well. Some of the videos from philanthropic work. I've done this year when i tell her. I'm proud of her. She tells me that she's proud of me and that i'm doing a good job. It's too much sweetness. She mostly my heart. I believe the best way to teach them to be the example. Can you have a better example. That's what i'm saying like. She is the most excellent example she could ever want her daughter to strive for. I think and you know you see that in blue ivy from the rare glimpses that you gotta remember at the beginning of quarantine. Tina had posted a video of of blue showing a germ with the soap. Trying to explain why you have to keep washing your hands. You saw her leg little glimpses of her being so adorable during the on the run tour when she was like five or six at the time when you can just see she has such a big personality and you can see where she gets it from and those rare glimpses of her just comes through. Saw much totally totally. She spoke about it in the interview later on. She was saying how you know. It really clicked for her after she gave birth to blue the importance of elevating 'black and african voices. She was like when. I gave birth to my daughter. Something to shifted inside of me. She's like and then. When i gave birth my twins and you know my son like i am raising a young black man. She kind of spoke about that and he said beyond say we all believe you can do everything. Is there anything you cannot do. She said. I'm always losing my phone in my house or office and i never know where my keys are. Iphones always dead. Days and days confused all the time. The guaranteed remember every detail of conversation. What you were wearing. How your hair style. It's absolutely ridiculous. Yeah i i love the idea of losing her keys because it makes her like one percent mortal freight also who knew that she drove herself. Like i also. I always views. I mean we've spoken about this with kylie because since she has so many cars. I don't view celebrities as like coming home certain celebrities right coming home and like throwing their keys on the island to meet like this very organized thing in the garage. That has every single one for beyonce. There's a driver at all times so the concept that she would even have accused lose was honestly embarrassingly. Surprising for me. I i so agree with you. Like that is such a good point bright like how does viansa even lose her keys. I know and losing her phone. I just it's so crazy so you don't think these people are people but there's just a certain level where you feel like things are handled for them differently. Which a lot of ways they are. But i guess we're all human fiance's on human human beyond say has human tendencies but she's not a by an lastly said what's something i would find surprising about you. She said i know it's random. But i have to be hives real ones. I've had my house for a while. now. I have around eighty thousand bees. We make hundreds of jars of honey a year. I started the behind. Because my daughter's blue and romy both have terrible allergies and hunting has countless healing properties. Who knew magin being the queanbeyan. Clean bees beehive. She does not know the honor that has been bestowed upon her. She has no fucking idea. I wish i could tell her. I know we have to tell her. That's crazy like i don't know when she said that i was just like. Wow this feels very meta a does it does. It's very mad at that. Beat doesn't even know about it. Oh no the be has no idea that the power in the legacy that it holds. Also i love that kind of holistic according kardashian vibe of honey being hailing at very much is but who knew that. The her kids allergies was her reason for doing that. And it wasn't some sort of symbolic. I had no idea i mean i guess it makes sense of the type of i that would get bees to be symbolic be more like there's a purpose behind them but i'm just glad she has them and i'm glad i know about it. That's what i was going to say. I'm just glad we know about it. That was a little piece of information that has elevated my monday. So thank beyond saying. Thank you folk. 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There's nothing really to say there other than we've been updating you guys so case you're wondering that's where she is right now okay. Justin bieber dropped this kind of mini documentary on youtube. It was only twenty five minutes. You could kind of think of it as almost a continuation of seasons. I know that we could talk about this forever. So i promised were not. We're going to keep this really short because he just get repetitive. But i really just have to say when he's sitting there talking about watching the music video for lonely of jacob tremblay and he's crying and he's speaking about what it was like in that moment when he had the entire world cheering for him but he felt so alone and that he was feeling suicidal because it was better to feel nothing to feel what he was feeling and then to look at that contrast with how he is now. I just thought was really beautiful. The craziest part for me of the whole thing. Because i mean. I love this. Twenty five minute documentary. Earth shattering or anything that we didn't really know kind of a continuation of his feelings and checkup and seeing that he's such a better place now and and really in that but the craziest part for me was when they're talking and scooter says if i were to do things differently i would have had you in therapy day. One talking to people who weren't us and scooter does. But i was twenty five and i was like holy shit scooter. Braun was twenty five when he said that. My jaw dropped. And i think it's because you don't think about the teams around these people that start so young like when you think about it. I think you assume oh well. He was immediately just thrown in with the best manager. The best agent he was given these people have been doing it forever. It's like his entire team grew with him and that doesn't always happen because the fame doesn't normally start that young so when he said that it was kind of this. Check like yeah. I mean i always knew. Obviously that scooters career grew with justin grew because of justin in that was his start as well. But i guess because of our age when he said that it just hit me and i was like i could not imagine having the responsibility and the ability at all to be twenty five years old and grow one of the largest pop stars in the history of music to what he was. That is an incredible incredible accomplishment. Anybody who says otherwise you know doesn't oh they're talking about because that is insane while you're right when you put it in perspective of our ages i mean personally i'm twenty six and i don't think i can even conceptualize what it would be like managing and being on the sole emotional provider in a lot of ways for somebody who's career is taking off. As much of a rocket ship is justin bieber was also just watching him and chance. Yeah it was a lot right. I understand ice cream. I was expecting chance at all. As i'm used as their i screamed. It was like i literally like wait what it goes a surprise party for me also. Did you know that. When at the end when he showing eddie benjamin and he wants to be his mentor. I want yes them. I did it. But sydney debut. She's obsessive maddie ziegler and we were watching it and all of us roy. Who is this guy in cities like mattias boyfriend and we were like. How did you know that. And then once she said i was like. Oh yeah that's bad exhibitors boyfriends for anybody who doesn't know matt ziegler was one of the stars dance moms but it's just so crazy. When i saw that i was like okay. My worlds are really climbing by just to go off your chance point a second. Listen by no means. Am i as much of a chance fan as you are like. I like him but he doesn't do to me what he does to you but when they walked on there and they were practising. I was just like this heaven. I could watch hours and hours of this. There are the ways that they interact and the swaggie they both have and it was just a lot to handle. And they're both just great people like the conversations that they have caught on camera them talking them talking about their wives in their appreciation for. It's just it's too much for me to handle to the halley element. I know not. Everyone's a fan of them. And i and i get it. I just i personally. I mean i don't personally like respected but i just i think there's i think there's such a fucking hot couple. I think i don't know you know some people say. Oh she's his babysitter. I don't think so. I think that she providing him a sense of stability. And i think they work really well together. Yeah i think they both provide each other with exactly what the both them are looking for. I i just listen. I am not going to get into it because i've said it as so many times but being could once i start going on stop but i just love them together at every time i watch them interact That feeling only stronger completely agree completely agree okay quickly. Let's just mention blake and gwen. We wanna get into some tiktok stuff. So i'm sure you all saw by now. Blake shelton and gwen stefani got engaged. The ring was estimated between eight and ten carrots and between seven hundred. Eight hundred thousand. Apparently he asked her father for permission. Which was something that she really appreciate it. Because i think according to the source she appreciates that kind of traditional element. I have to just say we weren't planning on posting this because at a certain point is how many congratulations comments can post but do elite ahead. A kind of a funny one. We ended up doing the second. Slide is a video from the interview. I really have to tell you julie. I was very surprised by the comments because yes the majority of people were just shocked. They weren't already engaged already married. But i'll have people really really dislike them as a couple which. I don't think i was fully aware of how their relationship started. Yes i think there's definitely the miranda lambert protection element absolutely. maybe also. I was not a voice watcher. But i think some people will were annoyed by their display on the voice. I don't know it. You know it's i don't think the miranda lambert argument though is one hundred percent like the only reason because you see a lot of couples where that's not the case right but i imagine that maybe if you're a big country fan you feel kind of differently than about like other couples. I don't know i. I watched a couple of episodes of the voice. My mom watches. Why would always watch with her. And i don't and i'm somebody who gets annoyed very easily by couples who are annoying like that's just a fault i have i guess Remember them being annoying or like finding it to be anything that bothered me. I don't know i. I was kind of hypothesizing. Because i wasn't surprised i was. I was surprised on the level of. I'm not gonna say discussed that's really. That's really a harsh word. But the dislike though. A lot of people showed so snow interesting. I don't know if you guys feel the same way but just wanted to mention. I'm personally excited for them. And i obviously can't wait to see the wedding. Yeah me too okay. The time has commie ready. Thank god thank. God i just wanna say. Don't talk person. Do not fast forward yet. Because i just want to start out with a little bit of a fleet. You guys feared somebody who cares about tiktok. We're gonna spend. I don't know five to eight minutes talking about the stuff that happened this week. But if you're somebody who really doesn't care about this and you want to fast forward that's fine. I will just say though. I think it's important that we occasionally talk about this stuff on the podcast. Because even if you think that it's really kind of like low brow unintelligent discussion or subjects i can understand that however whether or not we like it. These people are making their way into mainstream. If you go to your snapchat discover. It's not just like the teen vogue. It's also the elite dailies of the world. That are posting the drama between addison and bryce and so if you listen to this podcast because you wanna be informed and you want to have like a general understanding of what goes on. We got a lot of emails from bombs. They want to know what their kids are talking about. Like i think you're doing yourself a disservice by completely glazing over this. Because i listen. I'm not saying it's the best thing ever but it's it's coming into mainstream. These people are getting big. You just charlie demilio doing a whole how to with a rod on tiktok. Massive celebrities are coming to these tiktokers. And so i dunno i urge you to maybe lean in a little and if you really hate it when he can fast forward but there's something here yeah listen. I think that drama of any kind when it's somebody you're washing carrying about you. Consider to be a celebrity or a celebrity sent is always somewhat interesting to watch it. Play out the way it does. And what's so interesting that we always say about tiktok is that it really plays out like friend group drama like in high school or like you're in college. It's like fraternity and sorority suffering. I just find that if you're paying attention it has a lot more to do with your own feelings that you get out of watching this play out than the people itself for a lot of people i mean for me. It's kind of a mix. But i think that if you can get into it and not take it too seriously. You have a lot of fun with it. I totally agree. I totally agree so without being side it. Let's quickly talk about it. It was halloween. Of course the parties were just ridiculous which we will get into more in the crashing recap but for this particular element. Let's just talk about the couple's so addison and brace which are arguably one of the most toxic on and off couples that we've seen in young hollywood were back together. They dressed up as harlequin the joker and that video of them together julie. I know that he is not the right person for her. I know that her career is skyrocketing and that if she wants to align herself with people. She wants to align herself with braces. Probably not the call. I would be fucking lying with every single thing inside of me if i said i did not love watching their content together. Oh my god. I love it anytime. They pose together anytime they do. Anything i love it. Put this particular one. Him grabbed her face in that video them kissing from the paparazzi shots. I just physically can't get enough. I can't and it's funny because we were talking about this. The element of courtney kardashian and how i've actually saw a lot on tiktok. How people are saying like guys wonder what they're talking about listen. They're both in the most toxic relationships ever in terms of reminiscent accordion. Scott and addison embrace in not not a bad point. No i mean listen. There's definitely more toxic but yeah there are definitely kind of the poster child of somewhat toxic relationships. The kalman cracks me up solely. Because all i can think about the fact of mason scrolling through tectonic and only wanting to get his parents back together because he keeps seeing. Ted talks about them being a great couple ever care but all of a sudden user two zero seven three six posted toxic couples. I know are soulmates. In mason city. You're like you know this guy's got a point that is so it's actually just a funny idea in general to mason things when he scrolls through because there is so much stuff about his parents. They're also you know that based on the algorithm he must be getting fed so much of it of course. Of course. I mean if still trust me. Mason still on. So there's there's that addison rights. I also have to say you know. We saw jaden hustler and mads. We saw ness josh dressing up together. And i think for a lot of people because these are couples that have been together and then broken up gone back together. Broken up even recently on joshua's podcast him s that they weren't together but i think there's something yes of course. It just like relate ability element about this. These kids are like between eighteen and twenty. And so it's understandable. They're gonna have these relationships. That i also think to be honest. There's something about the fact that they have skyrocketed to ridiculous fame in such a short amount of time. And i think it can get really lonely there so i think that there's probably an element where they find comfort in latching onto these people that were with them before they had this. And so i think that's why you see a lot of these couples that were together in the beginning. Maybe going back because like they fame can be really lonely and isolating. Yeah oh that's an amazing point. I totally agree and also specifically this kind of fame. Where unless you're in a you don't really know it and there's always gonna be. People are incredibly judgmental of this type of fame and how you got famous as opposed to like if you were a billie eilish or justin bieber who got famous young singing and that fame is really lonely as just so famously put. But it's an understandable fame. I think for a lot of people. There is a lot of in terms of tiktok fame and a lot of lack of understanding in terms of it. And i think that manifest in a way that is probably incredibly incredibly isolated so to have somebody who not only understand it but is right there in it with you. That's probably the most comforting thing. I totally totally agree. Also you know. It was marked demilio. Charlie's dad's birthday and we got a lot of messages about this. They had a birthday did aren't from what we saw. It was just mark. Heidi his wife the kids. Charlie and dixie. And then noah and huddy and noah and dixie have been dating for a couple of months now charlie huddy are broken up apparently not back together. But this was interesting. Because i think when noah and dixie i started dating myself included i thought it was total. Bullshit i thought it was completely just you know a relationship setup to amplify the project both had going on. He appeared in her music video. We see these setups all the time. That's what i thought it was and even if it is even if that's not the case and it's a real relationship i will just say i do think something. About noah n chase have some. There's something about no end chase. The charlie's parents feel like they're good people like i feel like there is there. Is this connection between the four of them. Yeah i think so too. The demilio is always struck me as parents who were involved in all the right ways and i think that they've done a really good job with their girls in raising them right and i just can't imagine that they'd let people be this close to the family. If they didn't think they were good people at heart. Yeah i think so too. I mean listen chase got a lot of shit after you know it was that he was cheating on charlie and all that kind of stuff and i think they've worked passed it and i really think that what i said before is true for charlie. I think she must find a sense of comfort and chase. They were friends before all of this and now she's about two hundred million followers. He's still there. And so. I think there's a relationship there which to be honest with you. I was surprised about to like. I thought it was total bullshit but whether or not dixie no are actually like sexually involved. I definitely think there's a very real friendship there. Yeah definitely and the other line make. Was i think these tiktokers must find a lot of comfort in the parents. That are there. I think that will hoodie. And noah probably feel very comforted by having the demilio is in their lives. Because i think when you're young and you're in hollywood whether you want to admit it or not. You crave some sort of parental warmth. And if your parents can't be there it's very natural to find surrogates for that and the meals and also addison's parents who moved there with them are incredibly involved. I'm sure all of those ticks offers find a lot of comfort in their presence. Totally amount people have a lot to say that addison's parents involvement a lot of people think that they're profiting off of their daughter. A lot of people have a lot of negativity rounded. I guess my personal thing is doesn't seem to care. Addison loves it so they were living a completely different lifestyle a couple of months ago and yes because of her they have now gotten into his totally new world. But i think addison likes it and i think she wants her family to be as successful physically possible. So maybe it's not how we would want our parents to behave like it works for them. So who gives a shit. We'll addison also started on tiktok by her parents being involved mom and dad being in her videos and specifically her mom being like this hot young mom that did videos with so. It's not like addison got famous in all of a sudden her parents we want in on this too. They kind of started together. And i think her parents found a lotta fun youth in tech talks with their daughter and they've only continued to do that. I totally agree anything else to talk. Wise you want to mention that. I love when we get to do a good tiktok discussion. I get it out of my system. It's like the just breath fresh air. I feel like okay. We can go to the rest now. Yeah that was like the best birthday gift ever. I know that. In general hiring people for new positions is challenging but specifically now when there's so much going on and there's a place you can go. We're hiring is simple fast and smart. It's really where growing businesses can connect with qualified candidates and called at ziprecruiter dot com slash. Approach i'm sure a lot of you have heard about ziprecruiter but if you haven't used i would really highly recommend doing so because the thing is they do the work for you. So they have a matching technology. 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Because we were alerted by dave cohen on twitter and then we did a little additional investigating ourselves. We found out that. Sharon stone is an obsessive commodore on people magazine's instagram really. Kind of nice loving warm comments where she is speaking directly to the celebrity involved. Whether it's matthew mcconnahey or robin williams williams or whoever it is and so sharon stone. Keep doing what you're doing. I don't know if you know that these are public but either way it's just bringing good to the world so we wanted to dislike that absolutely. Okay we're gonna move onto the kardashian. Recap the first thing that i want to say. Is i know that everybody who listens to this. Podcast doesn't necessarily listen to the bonus show however if you're interested in kim's fortieth we spent probably thirty five minutes on thursday's episode talking all about that we spoke. All the details spoke. All the controversy spoke the backlash our opinions on it. All of that stuff. So if you're interested in that i would recommend listening but let's start out with kendall's birthday. Her is on november third so she always has a party around halloween. Trust me we have a lot of thoughts on this. We're going to cover the controversy around it as well. But i i just wanna give you guys the details so it was at harry's rooftop in west hollywood roughly one hundred people of course the entire family but also the bieber's jaden smith paris hilton. The weekend cuevas sweetie etc and there was this sign that was posted on social. And it said no social media. Take all the photos you want but please do not post on social media of any kind and if you look at the pictures from the photo booth it's the same exact fallen as wasn't the photo. I'm fully believing that this was a legitimate picture. There clearly that did not Last by any means there was social posts everywhere. I don't know at what time in the night. They decided to change that rule because it was like it was just cut a couple of guests that slipped. It was kylie the entire family that were posting as well. I just wanna i say like clearly. This party shouldn't have happened right but clearly that was wrong. We're in the middle of a global pandemic. There's a hundred people in a room together. Yes i'm sure. They went through some screening. I'm sure that there was. They were as safe as one can be considering however they would have never been able to have those luxuries if it wasn't for the type of kind of amenities at their afforded to so clearly. That party should have never happened. And i think if you're anything like us you can't even imagine being in a room with a hundred maskless people like to me. Even if i could the anxiety that would bring me as somebody who is terrified to leave my house in fear of killing. My dad just makes me like shiver. So we're living in two different worlds. Clearly i can't even imagine it but my thought on it is like i can't tell what to do and to be honest with you. If i'm being a hundred percent truthful. I enjoy seeing the content. I do view it as a form of escapism. I completely completely disagree with them. Ever doing the party. It was the wrong thing to do that. Being said i would be lying to every single one of you if i said i didn't enjoy looking at the photos because for me. It's a form of escapism. And i view. It is almost like a television. Show the iphone. However the point that i wanna make and just to be very clear. This is the exact same conversation julie is on. I had in our group chat. This is not like saying it for the purpose of a podcast. I really think when you're posting something like this. There's just something so off about it because let me remind you are the same people that when kylie jenner posted her thirst trap about voting the registration to vote saw a fifteen hundred percent surge. Their influence is undeniable. And when you're going to use your influence for things that benefit you meaning all of your products that you endorse all of the things that we want to support you on because we are fans. I also think you can't pretend like you don't have an influence when you're doing something that is so damaging to our country right now and like yes. I'm sure that they were as safe as they could. Be in the scheme of things. But it's not about that too needs about the optics of it to me. It's about the sixteen year old girls that are watching those thinking. Oh if kendall and kylie did it. I can do it too. And then they go out and kill their parents to put that type of blame on them. But i really just think there's something very off about it and that's coming from me. Who is like the most supportive of the kardashian family. Yeah i think that's an amazing point. They have an immense amount of responsibility and the fact of the matter is also. They're not the only ones doing this. It's it's so many people you saw million halloween parties. You tiktokers at saddle ranch every night. And it's an issue and the kardashians knowing the influence they have and you're one hundred percent rate using not always to their advantage should not be able to then turn around and be like well. It's not to be dealt with through. This is just for our people like no. You know the influence you have and you have to be aware of that. It's about the optics. It's also about the fact that you have workers there that are in obviously of course protective gear for your party in working at your party. But then you're blowing a cake and essentially spitting on them like there's just a lot of things wrong with what happened but again going back to your original point. You can think that the party was wrong. You can think it should never have happened. You think that you can think that it should have never been posted but also be obsessed with the content. You're getting because those two things aren't mutually exclusive. You can enjoy and be disappointed all at the same time totally totally and i know it's a weird thing to kind of struggle with because it's almost like you feel guilty for enjoying it when you disapprove of the idea in general but i guess my thing i don't know of course it shouldn't have happened. Obviously but you. We can't control what people do. I just think it's like i don't know it it. It really comes his incredibly Marvan tone-deaf though julie it's like it's like living in another element and it's not just them. It's everyone else who was so freely posting that type of stuff there and and other parties. It's like do not realize what's going on in the rest of the world. You don't always weird to me like he's being less careful than the public like a celebrity. Aren't you like more concerned with your life. Don't you know what i mean. Yeah but i bet the for them. They did everybody every person to go through a rapid screening. But somebody made a good point. That was so why not show that then. Of course the argument to that is like well because then you're just showing off your resources because most people can't even get access to such a rapid tests. I don't know you you can't win. There's a million different arguments. I understand that all. They should have showed the testing. Yeah i'm just. I'm just listing all the arguments that people gave. I just wanna make it like very very clear from our perspective. I genuinely like love and support the kardashians. But i wanna make it clear. We're not saying this because we feel like we have a responsibility to say. These are genuinely our opinions. We were talking about this when we were talking about a privately. Like it's fucked up. It's fucking bizarre. It's one halloween. I get that it was your birthday. Do you know how many people's can have their wedding. Their engagements are a million things. And if you're gonna do it just don't make such a spectacle and make it look like this cool thing that should be happening is if you live in this world war. Kobe doesn't exist. I think it's really really wrong. I genuinely do. i agree with you. A million percent. I would've loved to see the behind the scenes of what happened when people started posting. And also how did that happen like was it just. They've got a little bit drunk and they were just like fuck it. I don't know. I think what probably happened. Is that one person posted it was. What have you been kylie. Where one person posted and it was big enough for everybody. Well if they're posting. It's fine if we do and then it just got out of hand then you couldn't control it. Yeah also by the way you saw arianna grant in her interview about her album and she was like you just go to fucking saddle ranch so badly. Like arianna. 'grande is as famous as they come. So what's your excuse. You don't mean right but that's also the whole point is that it's not just the kardashians doing this utah. Hardy having a party you. Jeffrey star had a party where he was testing every before they game in. A tech talkers wrote a saddle ranch every single night. There were all these other parties. Yes the kardashians need to lead by example and they have an undeniable influence. Probably more than any of the other people that are listed but they are not the only guilty parties here. Yeah no of course. They are in the horse they are. It's just it's it's hard. It's frustrating when it happens to someone that you really like you know. Of course it's it's yeah and especially when you're somebody like we are where the idea of is so unfathomable to us like it just seems like such a foreign concept his wife harder. Wrap our heads around But it is. It's just it's it was not a good look. It was not a good situation agenda. Falvin completely. I also just want to make one more point before we talk about the details. Aka the ameliorate helen's of the world in terms of that's got groomer but jordan woods posted a photo on her story with her boyfriend. Karl anthony towns at it was them just. Is harry potter. And she was like. We're staying in to be safe but had to dress up in honor of us finishing harry potter or something like that and so many people were like. Oh my god. This is so petty towards the kardashians. Guys karl anthony towns. Mom died of covid at the beginning of the pandemic. Not every single thing. That jordan does is in order to spite the kardashians. Like maybe there was a little bit of that element there as a kind of funky but also probably not like i just feel like. I really feel like we're doing her a disservice by having to view every single thing. She does through the lens of them. It's not fair it's not fair. I couldn't agree more. You know what. I mean like this is a. We're talking about a global pandemic year that affected someone to her very closely. I think the last thing on her mind is thinking that she's gonna screw the kardashians by virtue of doing that exactly. I couldn't agree more. Okay in terms of the costumes. Yes kendall look fucking insane channeling pamela anderson in saint she worked. Oh my god so hot. She's just it's just ridiculous. Also came as carol baskin trying to know the words to the song in north teacher. Telling her she doesn't know it that whole thing. Just send me any. north tiktok. Interaction is too good for me. Kendall and kylie dressing up as their younger selves in that infamous picture with the blue and pink wigs. Like you have to see it. I loved it. What can i say. I also had also had of all years. I would not have expected them to a duo costume. But i i i celebrated it. Obviously it makes me feel like they're in a better place. I'm so happy. You said that. Because i wanted to bring up this point. It's about kylie kendall. Did you see that. Somebody posted the ticks at on tiktok the clip from life of kylie when kylie and kendall or how different they are in jordan saying she hated kendall for the first couple of years that she was friends with kylie because kylie and kendall were always fighting and she felt kendall was so cold. Yes yes staying. I completely forgot about that. I completely but i don't even remember. I wash life calling. I don't remember that scene once. I saw it again. I remembered it. But i was like. Wow that is so fucking timely. I know because you think of their relationship. I feel like totally different than that. I feel like we've always viewed them as so close as we were so shocked by this fight but then for that to happen to be like wait. That's not what was going on here. Totally added another element so crazy. Yeah also. I'm sure you all saw this. The daily mail posted a headline scott disick thirty-seven channels a censure tropical shirt. While amelia hamlin nineteen ops for a tiny candy bra as they arrive at halloween bash together. So amelia gray. Hamlin is lisa. Renan harry hamlin's daughter. She's also an up and coming model people saw this and were freaking out that they're dating. I'm telling you honestly. I really think this was just a case of them walking at the same time she to the best of my knowledge is still with her boyfriend. Mercer wieder horn. He is related to kim richards because he is a family of kim. Richards is daughter's husband and very recently. Amelia was on a podcast. Top about their relationship they seemingly are very close. So i really really think this was click bay like i genuinely genuinely genuinely think so By it kind of does say something to be honest. I love scott as much as the next guy. It does say a little something about scott. That people were so quick to believe it. Yeah especially with that age difference. Nineteen hundred people. Were very quick to believe they. You're right right yeah. i agree with you there. Also speaking of scott a completely unrelated just copied. It just made me think of it. So fear richie. Oh my god no no no shoot nope now. She is to me a whole other like level. She's a whole other league. I so agree with you. I agree with you also just point about sophia that i've noticed the woman does her hair i think our interests like at kathleen underscore hair and she is a couple of other like people in inner circle. She's very very closely now. They all are with like their glam teams but she is like a very close core inner circle. That's different than a lot of other people's that i've seen in hollywood and i think it's probably been integral in terms of her dealing with the break up with scott like she seems to have really good people around her my hope so she deserves a good people around her completely agree. Okay sri talk. Noah and stacey thank you thank you. I've been waiting to i. What do you think okay. Well let me. I catch everyone up to speed so there were pictures of no one scenario and stop us kissing not a kennel party at another halloween party and kind of confirming. Were there together. Remember this is coming off the rumor from about a month ago. That said that they did a secret marriage in vegas. They elope that i happen. We kind of dismissed it. But like are they a couple julie. I think they're definitely a couple. The question is what the hell happened in vegas. Did anything happen. I don't know. I have to like wonder if i would care as much about this couple. I really don't think i would. If it didn't start off with the rumor that they were married in vegas But wow do. I have a lot of questions seeing them. Kissing was like crazy for me. Because i was like maybe it is true. Why was it so crazy. 'cause it was for me too i i think also i needed the rumor what i think it has to be because of the marriage rumor probably probably i don't know i just i don't really see them as a couple. They're both young in hot. Obviously but there's something about it that doesn't really click for me but then again i don't know either them personally. I don't know it just. I can't really imagine. Noah centenario like these kardashian parties. I can't either. And also i mean this like as as most feminists sex positive anything. I could say this then. Stock got quite the roster my friend. Oh no she really has. It's almost impressive. It's incredibly impressive. Yeah you know. I always wonder if she hooked up with drake. I think she did. I think she did too. I oh that. I think so i would. I would actually put money on that. Yeah i don't know it's such a bizarre one. It really is i Excited to watch. Continue to play out if we get to see any more of it. Yeah i know me too. I mean then. I wonder like what kendall has spoken openly about. How you know. All of her siblings have kids. That's not really where she's going right now. But i wonder if any of kylie's friends that have been so close to kylie stormy have now been influenced in terms of their journey of motherhood like is has dasa opinions change at all based on seeing how much kylie loves having stormy like. I don't know these are all things that i wonder. It's always possible. I know i know okay. Last thing we just briefly talk about the hologram briefly. Okay very briefly. So as i'm sure you all saw for kim's fortieth connie got her a hologram of robert kardashian. She posted the video and wrote hologram from heaven for my birthday. Kinda got me the most thoughtful gift of a lifetime. A special surprise from heaven hologram. My dad it's so lifelike and we washed over and over filled with lots of tears and emotion. I can't even describe with this. Meant to me and my sister. My brother my mom and my closest friends to experience together. They key so much connie for this memory. That will last a lifetime so when this happens we got into a million times. Everybody was asking opinions. I think people also a lot of people were specifically asking me. I think they feel. Maybe 'cause i've lost a parent. Also that i would have a better sense on it but honest to god. My thought and this is literally what i said to julie. I just don't feel comfortable commenting on it because like even if it's not something that maybe we would want immed- kim happy and for that moment of time. Kim felt connected to her father. And so i'm i just have to remove any of my thoughts of connie out of the equation. I have to remove the fact that in it he put you married the most most most genius man in the world. Connie wesley comes across as totally just distasteful but also maybe he knew that that was going to add a moment of levity to the situation like i i don't know when it comes to dead parents. It's really really delicate line. And i just don't feel comfortable commenting on this gift because clearly for her. It was comforting. And like yeah. I don't know if i would want that for myself. But also when i go to bed at night every single time i go to before i go to sleep. I pray that my mom's gonna come to my dream because it's the most. It's the most realistic form of her. They able to experience anymore. And it's when i feel the most connected to and so every single night before i go to bed. I pray that she's gonna come to so many nights she does. And i wake up and i feel like i just had a night with her and it's the most special so maybe this is how kim felt in that moment. I don't know. I just personally do not feel comfortable commenting on it because it doesn't matter what any of us think it. It was special. Kim so like yeah. We can't stand connie personally. I can't stand connie but you know what is it. Made can happy good for her. Yeah i mean. I have obviously nothing else to add. I agree with you hundred percent. I think that gifts are entirely receiver oriented and if the person who's receiving the gift finds this to be a beautiful gesture on something that they love and something that they got without even knowing how badly they wanted it. That's all that should matter completely agree completely agree anything else. You want to add about anything. i think. That's it kiddo. I think so too. Well we love you guys again. If you wanna hear thoughts. On kim's fortieth we did an entire breakdown on that on the bonus show and the sentiment that i always want to act about. The kardashians is like just because we are such big fans of them. It doesn't mean we can acknowledge when they do something fucked up and candles. Party was as much as i enjoyed the content fucked up. It just was. It's a factor in the middle of the pandemic. You don't party with one hundred people. Sorry yup anyway okay. We love you guys so much. I will see you on wednesday for a robert shaw angelina. Thursday for ashes auto show vs.

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Weekend: Adam Driver; "Joker" music; Liz Phair; "South Park" v. China; "Parasite" director & more...

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Weekend: Adam Driver; "Joker" music; Liz Phair; "South Park" v. China; "Parasite" director & more...

"PODCASTING supported by Fox searchlight presenting Joe Joe Rabbit an antiwar satire directed by tyco YTD starring Scarlett Johansson Sam Rockwell Thomas and Mackenzie rebel Wilson Stephen Merchant and Alfie Allen in select theaters Friday I knew that it would be provocative for a woman to sing so say it one of the finest if not the finest of his generation thank you off movies work when you read something and you hear the character speak to you and then you get on set and maybe directors hearing the character speak in a different way is that hard to divorce yourself from how you have heard that voice speaking to you yeah you quit you quit what you see before you a great actor a great screen presence truly understand the character but I trust that maybe over time hopefully before we start shooting that something will come to me but there is definitely a moment and different in every movie when either be the first time I read it or sadly sometimes when it's over where figure it out a little later the Icelandic composer joker talks about writing creepy music for a creepy character we're going to start with a conversation I had with why show up and kind of wing it Adam drivers character might have killed off Han Solo in Star Wars but in his next movie he's got a more important battle categorize them but I'm wondering if there's a common denominator even though the roles are really different when you see a script or hear an idea and how it strikes you and if there's a Adam driver at the telluride film festival coming to the stage Adam driver he was at the festival for Noah Baumbach new movie marriage story if we you know sit shows a week and suddenly the last performance always like oh if I could do it now I feel like I have a better understanding obviously you don't you know that's not that's not saving his marriage and why has China declared war on this series South Park the frame weekend from the Broadcast Center at KABC I'm John Horn lose fair set the record straight on the frame weekend and we find out the secret Tatham drivers short but prolific acting career. I just don't take it for inquiry right back welcome to the frame weekend I'm John Horn have succeeded we have a special guest he was presented with a career honor a medallion if you want to be exact by this guy director Martin Scorsese on this show we talk with creative people about how and why they do what they do and about how there are is impacted by the wider world. The I don't know how we follow Mardi we're GONNA try looking at these selected roles that we saw in your real it's impossible is leave Marty no absolutely I feel like I've learned to not have a right answer about going on common reaction you have when you know this is something you want to do well it's a director's medium so mostly the director is what I kind of I think of because sometimes I don't question because it involves with every person some directors are so they're such visual storytellers that it's really hard for them to articulate what it is set like I've learned to try to do as much research as you can and I try not to have an idea that I impose on set because I always feel that that when the directors and maybe your fellow actors have different ways of working how do you find the ground on which you're most comfortable and where you think you can act the most competently that's actors in the scene and often I feel like the scene finds it out like it's not all one thing I guess to answer your question how do you navigate your way as an actor who might have a certain way of working my journey it's not my job to have a feeling all the time it's the audience's job to have a feeling so a why limit yourself by coming in with an idea that you're trying to impose on A. and then going into film television what are the things that you might miss but retain as an actor who's doing a show in front of a different audience every night when you're not out of control something that's uncontrollable than than the the more it's less fund you were recently doing burn this I'm wondering when you're doing it they want from you and that's fine it's it's it's just a different way like soda bird for example well shoot things incredibly fast and one or two takes to do this take it for granted that we're making a movie and someone's paying a lot of money for us to be here right now for this amount of time to do this thing you've regret of like you can't help go home and imagined I had all these ideas that now but then again maybe those were bad ideas right where you kind of under when you get that and that made sense to me to also look at because I came from a theater background and you play for five months and says me off to other choices you do your homework do your research but then show up and then have to be prepared that six months is down the drain because the it goes incredibly fast and then there's other people that will shoot fourteen sixteen hours a day you know they're they're just learned to adjust it's kind of similar to what I was just saying the more play because it's like a whole run of a rehearsal truncated into a day which is I think rare with someone like no and you're also rehearsing no our Jim Jarmusch what does that give you in terms of familiarity obviously you like the way they work as filmmakers but what does it mean practically in terms of what you do the conversation is totally fine until they start counting down ten nine of the money in time that would we'd lose if they'd gone wrong really starts to enter into your minded than and that's it we did it once and that was the only but all of this kind of like that and by the time you break for lunch shot everything for the day so not able to replicate that on a film that yeah it's a totally different thing it's working with Nola for example he likes to do a lot of takes and that actually feels more familiar to working on it I mean the topic is was something that I you know embarrassingly didn't know anything about and I mean the original report is over six thousand pages the redacted version is so I don't know anything the tribute is a sham couple last things when you work with with directors that you work before or someone has a better idea and you you you have to take ego out of and be like the most important thing is the thing overall not my just over five hundred and our script was one hundred and thirty how do you how do you tell that story as economically as possible but not without leaving the humanity out of it so that all of those things just seemed an opportunity to bring a topic to light that has been in the dark and that I was inspired four times this this is the fourth time at there's there's something that we are way of working work ethic is similar in that they just don't just brought theater initially it was just theater to a military audience to kind of show the commonality between the military and artistic community in there by that you hope there's people like that in a room alone toiling away for six years with no support Uh nonprofit when we were second year students at juilliard because I come from the Marine Corps and I had noticed change in myself that suddenly I was able to through theater in this movie called Logan Lucky where the drive a car into a convenience store and he's like they WanNa do it and my yeah he's like well do it but we're only get to do at once so then you start to get like Assyrian relevant and when they don't it feels like a waste of time and dangerous and you're forced to be intimate with people short amount of time we anyway we just we take a play I'm GonNa ask you a quick question without spoiling either film I want to ask you about Dan Jones and post nine eleven detention and interrogation program since you have how does it evolve when you're somebody that you've done multiple films with I can answer that for a long time especially about those two people Jim Jarmusch and Noah worked with base and we read it and then we talk about it afterwards no sets or costumes and our lights and the responses is pretty incredible you know it's like you're at the forefront of watching someone you know if you can be as much as you can before you start just being prepared to give yourself time to explore all the options when you don't do that with like a soderbergh than I tend to have in which a lot of people would call torture they call it extreme rendition other things what would you say about that film going into it without giving it away about why that movie spoke to you and why you thought it was something you wanted to do isn't such a divide you have a group of people trying to accomplish a mission bigger than any one person you have someone who's leading it and when they know what they're doing if feels like what you're doing hub of the world so but that's still not some so we decided to create a project where we south three time show of hands how many people are in telluride for the atom driver double feature marriage story and the report wow okay that's about half a house that will last forever why take that for granted why show up and kind of wing it and finding people have your same work ethic it's a rare thing I think I just repeated of can transition and how that can be violent set not physically violent an internal violent thing of you know some you've never took into consideration that door opens out or that or that your partner's drunk or that you know I mean that doesn't happen often but her articulate a feeling that I didn't have the language because it wasn't really part of my growing up in Indian to Indiana but it just wasn't wasn't the theatrics it's hard to hard to talk about because it's very personal it was personal to all the people who made it collectively and we talked about Saturday night live has gotten a lot of attention for weekly rose to Donald Trump and his administration but Washington Post pop culture and exploring stereotypes and sort of our inherent biases and expectations when it comes to race you know I wrote in one kinetically you know it's everything you're what you were in a room where you are together a second nature then suddenly divorce that from yourself hitters next month you're listening to the frame weekend I'm John Horn and experience a new art form they're like Oh this is what play is a play I'd never could afford it before it was then accessible to me I didn't know theatre was like that I I didn't either trying to trying to make a difference and all those reasons I liked wanted to do it here's something where you can make a difference and it is arts armed forces there could be painful but but maybe it's just transitioning into something different and I thought that was a beautiful idea Adam thank you ovechkin reporter Bethany Butler highlighted a different subject that's been getting the SNL treatment I think that the show is being a little bit daring and edgy and that conversation with Adam driver was recorded in front of a live audience at the telluride film festival his movies Mirrored Story and report both open and the rented the making of a movie and someone's paying a lot of money for us to be here right now to do this thing that will last forever in a white take that for granted thanks different people will take away from marriage story what was the thing that you treasure about making this film knowing scarlet again that could be a long answer that I know I should keep short I mean this in daytime TV news anchors and they find themselves in a competition about what raise some perpetrators of crimes might be so what was it about that sketch that you thank was so effective and worked so well for SNL. I think to start when the sketch started didn't really know what it was going to be it's you know a couple of years before we started making those conversations of what's out or what will retry are still happening but how killer about a sketch called midday news and welcome back to Wfan new midday news coming down I ask you about that skit so it's kind of this fun twist you know it's when phoebe Waller Bridge is reading this first crime report and it's about someone who robbed a gas station and audibly celebrate and they're really excited perfect described as a white male love it and then eventually the white anchors also get into this game I wanna ask you about hiring it does feel like this show is hiring more people of color and women not only performers but also as writers city both back stage and on screen you know a lot of the conversation about SNL diversity and I think it's probably happened more in the shows you know of trying to anticipate what race these criminals will be and usually they have their expectations subverted is said to have been operating a decade plus history but recently it was in two thousand fourteen when people started talking about how the show did not have any black and do you think that is changing the kinds of comedy the show is doing I deal I think it's really apparent when you watch the show now that there is diverse the people in the skit or the guest host phoebe Waller Bridge and SNL CAST members Kenan Thompson a go Chris read and Alex Buffet and they're yeah thanks for the organization that you join Tucker people don't know why does it and why does it matter Tucker my wife and I started this and when she starts talking about the perpetrator who police believe is a white man Keenan Thompson and Wadham the two black anchor members of Asian American descent and people were really excited about his hiring I I think that there is a lesson in into our express that and now I can anyway that's that's what we doing question I think this is the frame weekend I'm it to hire a black woman to be a member of the cast and Lorne Michaels the show's longtime executive producer pledged to hire a black woman comedian women comedians on I think it had been about seven years since Maya Rudolph left the show that you know they had even made a concerted effort expectations and kind of caught us out a little bit it makes us thank in to Larry US we're talking with Bethany Butler a pop culture TV reporter at the Washington Post Best SNL sketches in the trump era aren't about politics they're about race Bethany thanks so much for coming on the show thanks so much for having me coming up Indie rocker Liz fair was misunderstood because of her sex positive lyrics now a specific racial group you can't use racial slurs just you know it seems kind of for the sake of it I think you have to be really thoughtful and you have to know what your she's setting the record straight with a new memoir I have never found it served anyone to answer the question what is the song about every single time your goal is in the scheduler routine that you're doing Bethany Butler is a pop culture and TV reporter The Washington Post She's the author of the column the some of SNL's racial comedy that you can do really insightful humor around race but it can't you know target hundred percent that trade body she's a future player and the show has very visibly had very few I look at that he's black really what you know smart about this because it also subverts viewers and they hired so shears the Mata but certainly the conversations about SNL and its overall lack of diversity have not stopped so this year they hired Bowen Yang. Yeah well I'm running paragraphs so this is my time I'm having my moment I'm basically the lives of China right now yourself following the death of prince I'm wondering how that call served as a catalyst for writing what you wrote it was very funny phone conversation stories and it was released this week we reach Liz Fair in a studio in New York you talk in the prologue to horror stories about a phone call between your manager in Horn it's safe to say that a lot of us were rattled by the deaths of Prince and David Bowie in two thousand and sixteen but not everyone was so moved to face our own mortality and put down what they wanted to say before they were no longer alive well not all of us are less fair the Indie rocker burst the unique conversation where he kind of challenged me in a way I wasn't expecting you know I didn't think of myself as old but he was like Liz none of us know how long we've got you know you don't know are you going to be here tomorrow you don't know is what you're making right now what you'd WanNa leave behind if it was the last thing you ever did you think you can be more honest as a writer than you are asking musician in a way obviously you have more room a multibillion dollar Ponzi scheme that kind of money he was arrested this morning in Boca Raton doc to explain a situation get more granular with it and really sort of muse about the unanswered questions I think that was made mm-hmm I explain what I think about it disappoints never speaking with Liz fair coming up next on the frame weekend we'll be right back 'cause very early in the book you wrote and I'm quoting yourself back to yourself you say I'm trusting you with my deepest self and I'm wondering if the scene in one thousand nine hundred ninety three with her debut album exile in guy veiled and now she has a new memoir hi John How are you it's titled Horror I mean I have never found it served anyone to answer the question that is commonly asked me what is the song about and it just shook me up because suddenly thought like no I have more to say I have more to say that I would like to say in this sort of when I started writing the most fun thing about the pros writing is that I can russell with a problem that I can't find a solution to and I can wrestle with it page after page long has been recorded properly it ceases to be mine it can be created by me but it belongs to everybody at that point sees his or her songs and the way an audience does and where they align and when they don't and what that's like that occasional disconnect out these moments when real connection feeling is abandoned in favor of self preservation and it got me thinking about the way an artist on the same page they can't make you an object I reasoned if you're adamantly and vociferously the subject of your own sexuality invited that kind of interest after I published sexually frank lyrics you'd have gotten the cause and effect flipped and then you're right every single time I explain what I think about it disappoints speaking with really sad I'm setting up here's what's happening here's what your takeaways I'm GonNa play a bit of a song from your first record this song is called bright being female in the entertainment industry can sometimes feel like running a never ending gauntlet of Horny dudes if you think line and sort of amplified I thought of it as rightfully a part of my personality and there was a lot and it's interesting but it doesn't resolve and I think with a song you kind of have to resolve that and kind of say like do here's here's a here's what whole idea of what they want it to be about and for them if that is what it is about that is what it is about it really isn't mine anymore and I know that's a cliche people interpreted what you're trying to say that's a very good question I think that that never quite resolved certainly I did not realize how the sexual aspects would eclipse any discussion of anything else or how that would be picked up in a head for me I saw it I knew what I was doing I knew that it would be provocative for a woman to sing so explicitly about sex so I intended that they may have dynamics that involve that but they're not like explicitly sexual and I think again why is this culture so comfortable so that's what you believed but then other people saw you in a different light based on what you were singing about so what is your take away from how you wanted to be seen and in a weird way there's a chapter in this book called Hashtag and there's a lot going on it but I'm going to ask you about a couple of things and one is that with violence and so uncomfortable with sexuality why is that it's weird it doesn't seem healthy to me psychologically you're basically fair game and that hurts that feels bad that's not a positive thing and I think I think I wrote that chapter you write in the book everybody thinks this song about sex and on one level it is but it's also has it always send it off into the world they're like my children but I let them go I don't think of my songs is my children but I also don't think of them as mine once they're completed once into a lot of hip hop and I'm curious when you hear teenage kids maybe your own listening to music that is maybe it's complicated I'm sorry to tell you but that's the truth like this is what seems so weird to me is how many men are unaware of what women's lives are like a special I'm guarding my sexuality behind like Defensive Wall just to grow up and be mature and have sexual relationships I would like a world in which in the end to kind of just say the point is not all the separate things that happened the point is I don't WanNa have to feel like I make twice that amount and yet it seems so casual it seems like this is the thing that any woman has to deal with on a daily basis Lee and most particularly if you step out of your lane if you dare to live a life that isn't one of the prescribed and approved of roles for women way about the propositions that you got mostly from record label executives including somebody who's like I'll pay you five thousand dollars a month to be my living concubine you like I explicitly about sex so I intended that I did not realize how the sexual aspects would eclipse any discussion of anything else indie rock I can do both I can be intelligent and safe and still have sachs that's pretty much all I want I'm GonNa ask you one last question I think you have a teenage son so I mean there were eighteen songs exellent Guy Ville and I would say at least fifteen aren't really about sex per se is that right now he's twenty two okay so have you have a young son I have a nineteen year old son I will tell you he's not listening to Liz Fair right now but he's listening why we need just back right in almost kind of an offhand was I just the fair about her new book horror stories phew boy but maybe it's ultimately a little misogynistic what are the conversations that you have a parent about musical tastes because it's really tricky for me and I'm wondering how you navigate that where it came up in our household because my son he's into pretty his stuff is more like synth wave he's into that kind of like eighties again and join us back here for the daily version of the frame on Monday it's such a magical process I thought it was really important to feel like we were like in frame weekend I'm John Horn the Joaquin Phoenix movie joker has been polarizing for its portrayal of mental illness and gun violence but it's also you're listening to clearly drawing audiences to the multiplex the film has grossed nearly three hundred million dollars worldwide among the parts that make the film so compelling stopping it so I just tried to work on the on the character and the brain I think I did okay he's I pretty great experience music very physically as I read the script I I have a physical reaction to the story and it was kind of very car I did spend some time explaining the difference and 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Somebody know just ended up up at dinner with Delta Burke and said she was delightful. Hey can we get more of her just in life missing her. She's still with what's his name Gerald mcrainey well. I did just start designing women for the first time. Oh enjoying it. Yes I'd seen like random clips and everyone seemed the night. The lights went out in Georgia monologue. The law performed every drag queen in New York at some point It's good it's good. The first few episodes are very a weird and low budget because it's only on Oh totally I think I think the episodes I've seen like they expand. Obviously two other sets once it becomes popular but the first one it just seems like a short one act play. That's how I feel like. All those shows are if you watch the first couple of seasons of cheers. It feels feels to me like you're watching almost at PBS staged drama something it doesn't feel like a multicolored we as they evolved at least cheers has more characters actors. This is just the four women and it's very much is this pre golden girls around the same time yeah. It's you know it's the end of Golden Girls Yeah. Oh okay yeah so the same sort of archetypes that people are used to from golden girls and also just I mean the melodrama of the monologues. This show was actually developed for that person. The woman who uh-huh developed at Linda bloodworth-thomason that she wanted to show where people would monologue like women did in the south just randomly. I need Dixie. Carter gives you at least three monologues the pilot all right I love that crimes of the heart yes ver- wow good reference one one of three Pulitzer Winners Pulitzer for drama by women in the eighties by that's by Beth Henley. Can you name any of the either two others. Louis quizzing me the semi looking at my producer face I know one of them was Paul Vokes. Not that's the nineties for how I learned to drive. Ah Yes well answers are Wendy Wasserstein for the Heidi Chronicles Marcin Norman for night mother which is a very dramatic play about a woman threatening to kill ourself and then she doing yes. It's very boring point yeah yard. We've seen the movie with Bancroft and says he space and the people think of her as Mrs Robinson. This woman wasn't Zany from time to time to run around the largest facial reactions like Kabuki style large reactions and what did I say about an on the real conversation I've seen night mother and I just I don't have an aptitude aptitude for remembering award so you'd better get get to it but if we're talking about awards officially using this episode to launch my campaign okay for Jennifer Lopez being nominated for an Oscar for Hustler's well I mean I think the Internet is behind you. We only have a couple more days till that's out correct. Yes it comes out at this week. Go see it. She's great. She's iconic. Obviously we can talk about it right yeah but it's our best roll it is. I think it is definitely her best performance formats. I'm an unleash conspiracy theory about this but the are you ready. Madonna's two best performances are both with lady directors news and settlement settlement for desperately seeking Susan and Penny Marshall for a League of their own. This I believe is Jennifer Lopez first movie with a female director and screenwriter Marines Ghaffari and the host cast is when it's almost a shame we had to wait this long to get an All lady movie for Jennifer Lopez but for it's the most comfortable she's fell and yet explosive yeah. I was talking about this after the movie that I think that her best roles comes when people's confidence. She's a Leo for one oh like us but out of sight the last half of enough the cell and Selena those those are confident rolls when she's not playing a maid in Manhattan shrinking violet for or someone's wife who's being terrorized like in the boy next door or or something. I think that this is really what she does best and yeah I mean male actors always win with male directors because they vibe together the most right so. I hope Marine I duNno fluorine would get a nomination for Hustler's. I don't know if it would cross over the way that Jaylo. Hello well deserves at least a writing one. It feels to me like a bridesmaid situation. Where if this movie blows up enough the Academy will have no choice but to award in some way nominate Jaylo our makes a ton of money human rhapsody correct I I just saw the statistic that a US I would have a Latin x woman has not been nominated since Rosie Perez for fearless which is twenty five years ago so I mean just statistically or owed something? That's gotta the happen Who's your favorite other cast number at it by the way constitute is a really good job to the movies mainly about J. Lo and count yeah she do she had to I would say that Cardi Cardi is the second best hardy she only has a couple of moments but it's so natural the humor and it's so her like what you know of her as a personality translates well in the big screen way yeah. I think she just needs a sitcom yeah. She can play that role. You know God yes fresh prince two you want her to be a fish out of water some the greenacres. That's what I want. Yeah Greenacres were party. yellow acres sorry. I vote. Act Johnson voted to Obote. What's your function anyway. What's this episode of Kiki. Palmer also graded hours because you Palmer's farmers great Mercedes Ruehl appears who popped it and I was like what are you doing this movie. She is a best supporting actress winner of your and she is back and sort sort of the the mother of the Hustler's mother Hustler speaking of own just save not seen Lorraine's Raines movie the medlar do it. I know it has Susan Serandon in it which can be difficult now but she's very good you get past the fact that that it's Susan Sarandon who wants Tulsi Gabbard on the debate stage right right right also get rose Byrne as a protagonist who is just relatable not zany character in any way we we usually. We tend to get those from her. She's got great all right our show. WE'RE GONNA get into it. We are going talk about everyone's favourite foliage scarlet. She's defended Woody Allen. I Love How sub celebrity liberty decides. It's time to defend Woody Allen. Every season I guess yeah no time for fall right and we we will also be talking about crazy. Rich Asians or crazy broke Asia. How about that yeah it broke. That's a rooted so you but Adele Lamb the CO writer of the First Crazy Rich Asians movie is out out of the sequel over pay disparity which is the gentlest way saying she was paid one ninth of what her collaborator was going to be bad and then we are going to have a rousing conversation which Chelsea handler. I don't think she's ever been unrevised so I think you're right. It's a safe assumption. We will be right back to the IRA Lewis Variety hour which will surely be more than our the last one was urban our it's going to be Super Young Frankenstein here with us and canes doing the putting on the restaurant's start of Milan Scarlett Johansson added again she she must have no publicists or she's just super defiant of a publicist in a way that a very Ayla celebrity could she if she wanted to be but you rarely see I think our friend Kim booster had the best tweet about this Scarlett Johansson defending reading Woody Allen situation and that it's now starting starting to turn into a situation where he's embarrassed for Colin. Jost God got that is too bad turned. She's a mass. You've also stepped on the joke. I was GonNa make which was Scarlett. Johansson has had many conversations nations with him and she is confident that Colin Jost is funny. You see how it's a SWITCHEROO IS GONNA be about Allen Anyway. Okay well Scarlett Johansson had had an interview with the Hollywood report last week and in it she decided that she wanted to lay down the gauntlet and publicly defend and woody allen the articles notes that a lot of Hollywood's a list actors have publicly expressed regret about working with him since the Metoo movement which includes Michael Caine Timothy Shallow May and Greta Gerwig Ellen page yeah however Scarlett Johansson who starred starred in matchpoint scoot and Vicky Cristina Barcelona says at I love Witty. I believed him and I work with him anytime. I see woody whenever I can and I have had a lot of conversations with him about it. I have been very direct with him and he's been very Direct with me. He maintains his innocence and I believe him see Woody Allen whenever you can by the way is like when she has time minutes she starts up to the part time like he's like a slice of pie from her favorite bakery. GotTa go get Woody Allen's. I just gotTa gotTa cancers yet right right a show. I will say though that match point and Vicky Cristina I've seen the Barcelona are my two favorite would say Vicky Barcelona in particular. I don't WANNA call it under rated because it was something of a head at the time and Penelope Cruz won an Oscar but it's definitely the best of that decade. Rebecca Hall is very underrated in that movie just love her. She was so amazing and Christine. That's also she said fuck with the two right right. Yeah I think what's interesting. If we'll just get into the hall Woody Allen Defense thing a lot of the issue she always comes from people wanting to defend him because they think that we are tarnishing the memory of his old movies and I will say say that you can still enjoy movies by people like Woody Allen and not defend him publicly not constantly give him awards etc I actually think I am different in the Woody Allen situation than a Polanski though because I I didn't really discover woody Allen Movies until later so I've been attachment I've seen any hall but I haven't seen Manhattan and I've seen the movies that were in the two thousand so that's why match point and and Vicky Cristina are my favorite movies because I really don't have anything prior to compare it to I mean I've seen Hollywood ending and Hannah and her sister while Hollywood ending. You really just woke me how so I just don't have that sort of nostalgia for him on the flip side. If we're talking what about Polinsky movies I fucking Rosemary's baby and death in a maiden and Chinatown right right right well first of all. Let's let's just say about the Woody Allen Situation in general it remains a complete anomaly in terms of celebrity based scandals because one we're talking about a horrifying being charged child abuse where there are famous people on both sides of it and also the like there are people on both sides who believe this sternly then they're not letting up and you're never. GonNa get like secret videotape of how it all went down so you're never going to actually find out whatever what actually happened happen. We're like somebody will always be lying. Somebody will always be telling the truth. That's a strange part of the story so Scarlett Johansson jumping so vehemently on one inside is crazy creepy but also there are other actresses who have worked with woody and then kind of defend him without going as hard as she did but I dan Diane Keaton's most specifically but even like during the Blue Jasmine press store not that Kate Blanchett defended him or anything but she was sorta she treated the whole thing the bit gingerly and you know what I mean so it feels like there are two sides to the situation. I will now say something glib. She loves Woody Allen. Her Gaze Yeah right circulating. Sh- Kate Blanchett did this junk interview with journalist named Andrew from a friend of mine and he's a person that exist. That's exactly right. It said the word gays she was talking about her character's gays and she thought he meant gays G. S. which was funny to me because we just had that that makes up with Robin. Yes right re brought up the black gays and she thought that she would say gays g right right right anyway. Cate Blanchett made a gesture that was a liberal. I'll say it was funny. I'll say I thought it was funny to. She is a real wicked sense of humor about her. It's we're somewhat underrated. I would say take most gays found it funny too by the way I only saw one person be like she made like Ras Joke Br Alex cusack right well also. It's like not to be a twitter stereotype adjust Cate Blanchett step on my neck. I'm sorry you're one of those people that the one of those et Cetera et Cetera but to be Glib in a bit patty about this situation you would think to Cape this much for Woody Allen. He would have gotten a new one Oscar nomination. I mean Scarlett. Johansson was somebody who who her job really before. The Superhero Franchises kicked Dan was to star in Prestige Movies and get Oscar nominations and she kinda didn't so you know it's like woody. Allen has this history I mean the one in arguably kind of rat brad thing about his legacy is how many women got signature unforgettable roles from him whatever you kind of forget that about her specifically because there's been so much awards chatter about her in a marriage story and Joe Joe Rabbit thing which I feel like isn't going to go down well but allow like I prefer the velveteen anyway you forget that she used to be that kind of actress wrote the Pearl earring and those kind of but direction got nominations so I feel like at certain points. She was like Marvel Movies Luke Basan. Let me make some fucking money yeah right right right so in a way she somebody where I wonder. How much does she have to lose from being this upfront about defending woody Allen being nothing because she's always like she's not. She's on blacklist -able at this point. I feel like this people in Hollywood who are exhausted by what they consider. PC culture right you know every time a Dalit comes out for Hollywood reporter one one of those secret ballots. You know someone's like brutally honest with talking anonymously about who they're voting for. I just feel like there's always a set of people in Hollywood who are like fuck people mad at Coa Johannesen for wanting to play an Asian woman. This movie fuck those people for being mad that she he wanted to play a trans man and now whatever it's woody Allen who cares. I like his movies. There's a big contingent apparently Ed of film lovers who are sick of being told what to think that people who voted for green book you know what I mean the Sasha Zone. Yes why no people don't know who Sasha's donuts honest. You may have explained that. Sasha is a alleged awards blogger out here. Yes that's also the very funny part of her job to. She's not a film critic correct. She does not critique films Geraci the prognosticator prognosticator about awards that film aware the Oscars which is why I never take anything. She says seriously about film. You're not critiquing it. You're not offering any sort of insights into the film. You're just talking about whether or not it's GonNa fucking war the optics on whether or not something looks good for award season and I'm remiss to even mention this girl Saturday sure girl Saturday why uh-huh but she also has some weird vendetta against me. She does yeah well. I kind of knew that a lot of people are still mad about the article that I wrote about Lala land where I critiqued the White Jazz jazz narrative in the film never mind the fact that the rest of that essay was very positive about La La la La Land Hater a film that I enjoy a film that I have re watched a film that it was easy to make jokes about during that award Caesar so a lot of people did but I never ever explicitly said I hate this movie she was mad about that and then the next year would sub tweet wheat. May and her pieces about Green Book being you know people don't want this movie to win because PC etc cetera etc so it's also just wasn't that good well reviewed mall also upset also because I hated three billboards next year. Oh Oh right the car that was such an awkwardly bad movie but still got universal acclaim very so she has become the patron saint of movies that she it feels like a PC culture. I remember last year. She was so adamant that I man deserves a lot of Oscars but it wouldn't because a man a white man made it about a white man because that never wins Oscars. Don't look at the history of the award we've also I would a strange movie. It was static for me though technologically logically impressive but I'm going to say about Scarlett Johansson to get back to that I apologize for upending your beautiful random awards blogger. Don't don't you feel like now. She's almost obligated to star in a Woody Allen movie who the hell else is going to do it and he because he chronically rights movies he will keep doing it clean. You need somebody to star in them so it was going to be like a one woman show starring Scarlett Johansson now and it's not the flipside like Roman Polanski who has evaded his justice and is living in Europe and we'll always always get random European actors to be his movies and the occasional American you had Americans. Oh jodie foster was in carnage and then Christoph stuff watson who was that John C reilly. Kim Control was in the ghost writer. What the Hell do you remember the ghostwriter no even McGregor movie. I don't think so so I actually Kinda liked it. I see it's a mess but I like the movie neither saw for Criterion Channel Kim Cottrell today in interview where she goes to the criterion channel closet and talks about all the old movie. She likes sometimes forget that we don't actually know. Kim controls person at all and I have thirty ideas about who she is anyway anyway. Apparently she's an old movie lower. Look it up so while I will but I think him like clancy's latest movie an officer in spy has people like John Dujardin in it MHM like because I feel like Europeans are always defending people like with you and Polanski anyway right right. I like Oh who cares seventies. Everyone everyone that was actually by the way what prompted my recent argument with staunchest out because speaking of decay thing for Woody Allen and she went on twitter and in her full throated defense of Polanski decided to list the definition a a pedophile. Oh good be like Oh. The girl was too old so she he's not a pedophile. We're not talking about pedophilia here. We're talking about about the rape yeah. He convicted yes so it's always hiding from the start. I feel like it's crazier. When people defend Polanski because because that is there was an actual rate verified story and then the subject of it like I it's come to the point where she says. Please just let this go. I can't stand dealing with it anymore. Yes yes so that one is more shocking when people do that. I agree with you. Woody Allen is at this point you just expect people are going to be like I like them and and when people like Scarlett Johansson come out and have this big defensive him. I feel like that makes it easier for other people to say you. You know what I believe them right now please. I've been on the other end of longtime fans of Woody Allen Friends of mine. Who've been who've been fans of his you know since they were born basically basically telling me. I have to watch the early ninety s sixty minutes that base that quote unquote exonerates him are makes me crazy or whatever so there is this sometimes silent sometimes mouthy defensive woody Allen still lingering out there. I also just want to say that I find it particularly cowardly though that someone like Scarlett uh-huh handsome would speak out about how she believes Woody Allen because what you're really saying is that you don't believe Dylan Farrow and if you are getting around talking about how how you can justify that that is yellow and that is not fair to her as she has been so explicit and articulate about her experience. Y- take time and time again so did not put her as part of the equation of what in your defensive Woody Allen is revolting to me right no one ever addresses. This is the fact that to defend him you believe. Dylan is like yeah right and they always sort of equated in Mia. Farrow's maybe yeah but MIA farrow is not the one making account correct yeah. No you can read Dylan Farrow's pacifica account I also WANNA say in to go back to what you said about losing losing affection for Woody Allen Films. I feel like it is I guess a particular gene but I have the gene where any movie that actually has woody Allen in it feels exactly the the same to me. There are a lot of people that always just find him kind of consummately fascinating in his movies and super funding like the epitome of funny whereas I feel like seen it one time yeah yeah if I've seen it. I've seen him do at one time. He just the exact same thing in all the other movies yes. He's not an actor in the sense that you want them playing in the same role each time you know I mean that's basically what actors do anyway. You know they play a different variation of something that they do really well but for him. He's just sort of there yeah. There's nothing interesting about him. There's nothing exciting about watching him on screen yeah and he get off. You're ruining this move and occasionally go with the most beautiful women alive. I want to draw everybody's attention to the movie Stardust memories where he makes out with Charlotte motherfucking rambling Lauren Bacall Lavar time anyway concerns about finally that this also just made me remember that we miss someone else defending in hand to recently Joel Schumacher. Oh right in that crazy profile where he's like. I have thought five hundred thousand men by the way. How old were you when you come back? It was it was way later on. It's easy to forget yeah. I mean it makes sense watching Batman and Robin and other movies but it was a movie about Nipples yes but in that interview in vulture he talks about how he still friends with me. Mia and woody which I feel like is a weird thing of people from that era. There's a lot of them who probably are still friends with them and so it just feels weird to think as mia you have to just sort of disassociate the fact that this person who I'm friends with is also friend and with Woody Allen which means that they believe him but also they still want to be around me right. It's trying to stay outside of that drama while saying the right things about both sides which is impossible but the grossest thing that he said in the interview about this is how sometimes men were like leave the receipt for like a hotel and their jacket unconsciously because they just it's better for the wife to find doubt about their fair and confront then then had to sit down and be like I'm having an affair so he suggested that woody left those photos out on purpose because it would have been an easy easier for me to discover it than him having to tell her what the shit like theater. That's so Agatha Christie yeah anyway yeah. I thought that was an ice and odd anecdote in an interview with a lot of insane anecdotes and Volker is really on a roll lately again. This is apparently what they do. You want to hear from dish it out anyway. Speaking speaking of people we want to hear dish it out here we go Chelsea. Handler is next are. Are you struggling to sleep these days well. 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Now there was one of the election was very confusing time for a lot of us for me and afterward you know before the election my biggest you know most stressful decision was deciding whether or not to have a waterside installed from my bathroom balcony into my pool for adults and then the movie blank check after the election. I was running around and Bel Air where I live in my white community passing out waters to all the Mexican guys that were working in our neighborhood thinking. I'm being woke meanwhile. They're like funky. Were citizens. Okay Mike. I'm I'm sorry about the president. Oh where we're going to protect you. They're like we live here. We I'm like okay I need to get I like my head out of my ass and find out what the situation is and why I was so blind sided and why was reacting in such a kind of you know outraged way which is an inappropriate reaction to food like Donald Trump but it was taking over my life in a way that I was just so angry and I was so outraged I thought we had like kicked racism to the curb with Barack Obama and that was my white naive tae and my own experience and I thought we we're GONNA kick sick sexism to the curb to and then like you know smack your face and then we have to revisit both of these things in ways that you know people of color have been dealing with this entire time and you know white people who are living in their bubbles think is like oh we were making progress so I wanted to do a deeper dive and learn more to be a better advocate advocate better ally kind of re think about everything I'm putting out into the world and doing it in a responsible way rather than just cashing cashing a cheque because I can say in this movie you talk to 'em activists. You Talk to other comedians. How much of a priority was it for for you to get like the discomfort on tape of both asking say black people what they thought and your reaction to. I mean there's an interesting part in the movie where someone says you can cut this out but I think it's weird that you're here in a room. Full of black people basically taking from us. You know so. Was it important for you to get bat discomfort on tape. Yeah I mean I. I'm pretty comfortable with discomfort. That's kind of my comfort zone and I like to have uncomfortable conversations and a sense responsibility because I have been so fortunate and I who knows if I really deserve any of that that's arguable so you but I think those uncomfortable comfortable conversations you know I used to go into conversations wanting to change people's opinions and then I charge to learn how to have be a better listener to have my opinion change to hear the whole story to hear about why people do feel racism. You know why they do act on racism what what are their motivations why and why are people so unwilling to admit that there is the white privilege and why did they get so defensive about it. You know there was a person we interviewed who said that. They're not racist because they watch the cosby show so there's that you know basic those those kind of conversations where you're like well that's just this is a dead end a lot in the next verse. Did you think as a person of color watching the film. I'm curious. You know I was very interested in how you went to that situation where there were a lot of black people who could ask you questions because I was already thinking about. What questions am I gonNA ask Chelsea when she comes here and someone immediately at brought. Ah You know the book you gotTa. Be Kidding me and I remember before you've talked about how you never want it to apologize. Apologize for things you've done in the past so I just wanted to know how you felt in that situation talking about the book or even with a situation where you know it's like I remember the Lupita Nyongo tweets after the Oscars you know about like Angelina just filed her adoption papers after Lupita hadn't won for twelve years of slavelike revaluate now and maybe not necessarily want to apologize for but you feel like you get now where people were coming from yeah. I think it's important a I mean I went. You know I had a kind of come to Jesus moment for myself. After the election because I stopped everything I was doing I went deep into therapy and I went deep into activism and he was trying to figure out you know what the meaning of all was and what the meaning of my life is and Blah Blah Blah Blah but through that you realize that anytime time your defensive about anything you're wrong. You don't need to be right is wrong. You know so anytime I'd be like well. It made fun of anybody. I've everybody I'm an egalitarian and Jews Christians Catholics but black Muslim yeah now you have to understand and this is something that happened on the documentary. You know you have to understand how people are receiving not not not what your intention is. Even though my intention wasn't bad it was being received bad. It was hurtful to people with histories that were unlike my own so it is really much about so so much about getting out of your own lane and understanding what other people are dealing with and for a long time that just never occurred to me. It didn't occur to me to have to think about that. I thought Ooh I'm doing great everything in my life. I have you know I have people on my life. I have black people on my show. I don't think I act that way so nothing nothing to see here instead of taking a deeper dive and going. Are you really being mindful of that. Are you really being mindful of what it's like to be the only black writer in a room are you being mindful of what what that feels like and you know instead of necessarily this kind of entitlement that comes with it and so it was it was one thing to identify defy it and then there was an the next move was to do something about it and you know the documentary became very personal experience for me because it was about my own. I wanted to talk about my own privilege tillage and and through that you know we visit my ex boyfriend from high school who I hadn't seen or spoken to in so many years and that that experience you know I dated a black guy in high school. I was sixteen years old and I- rammed into his life and had fun and I was ready to leave. I took off but I was in his culture sure in his neighborhood I lived with his mom and his house half the time. You know I was in that community because I thought it was fun. It was like something I had never been around before and and you know that is privilege. He wasn't able to walk into my neighborhood and act like that and hang out with me and my family like that. So when I spoke spoke to my director she was taking me through all of my history and my you know when I told her that story she was like we need to go see that guy. I don't make please with the ex-boyfriends ends in my documentaries. It's not my favorite thing to do to revisit an ex-boyfriend especially one who was incarcerated for fourteen years we came to find out but during that time when I did to date him and we were sixteen years I was ecksteen. He was older He. We got caught with Google. We'd like two or three times. I think three times and each time he was arrested any time I was like. Oh and at the time I thought that was because of my personality or because of the way I looked. I didn't ever equate that. People were discriminating. Can you know against by people. I just thought Oh. I'm killing it. I win win again. Also I think one of the big points in this movie is that you talk talk about how just white people need to have conversations among themselves way more often than they need to interrupt black spaces and and post questions to other people since you know white people benefit from white privilege and then they face no consequences. It's the consequences go to others. How in your own life have you started uncomfortable conversations with other white white people like what are the circumstances that have provided you with. You know a rat opportunity to talk about this. All the documentary was the first place because you know white. People people are very resistant to talking about this. You probably saw those conservative women for Orange County talking. You know we wanted more of those people but people would come on and then there would I would it. They wouldn't sign the release if they had said something because people are so nervous about how they're how they're discussing. It and I think that you know my message of this documentary because it's there's not some huge solution that I come to at the end. It's more about okay if you can be more aware and if you could be more mindful and you can think about it on a daily basis. You're doing a better job you know as long as you're not part you don't continue to be part of the problem and instead trying to be part of the solution and by pressing people people to say hey. There's no reason to be defensive. Okay racism is stomach. It's been happening for hundreds of years in this country and thousands of years elsewhere so so don't deny it. Let's just start talking about it and move forward and figure out Oh God yeah. I have these prejudices. This is what I think of this group of people have ever ever acted on them. It doesn't matter it's not about people being guilty. It's about saying Oh yeah I could see why this is unfair. And what is my partner and you know I think the one one-sentence I read that made me really think was like too many people equality feels like a loss to white people who are benefiting from the privilege every person of color getting an equal opportunity can feel like a loss like men and women becoming equal feels like the party's over for men so you see how this dynamic works in many different constructs so it's really important to be a voice for the for the groups that I don't have enough support from the people that are benefiting so that's how I feel about that. I think I answered probably not not I mean you. You know it's one thing to talk about you know jokes and this and that that people may want to re evaluate but I always think about actionable things that we can and do as well and I'm just wondering like did you then start to think about. Maybe even your previous late night show maybe even your Sitcom on that. You had to think like wow were there. A lot of white writers in this room on my projects are their future things that I like to to do I could add other voices because I feel like when we talk about things that we can do with white privilege a lot of it starts within our own community. You know we're in art with your own. The US the answer to all of those are yes. You know all of those things. It's like you just now. We're living in a different world. Everyone has to be mindful of what's happening right now. So it's that's important and people who are. Noy By. It are the problem you know. The resistance to that acceptance is the problem so yeah you have to to be mindful of all of that and you know just doing little things within your community makes a difference you know. I thought I was woke and then I was like wait. I moved from a white neighborhood in New Jersey to Brentwood which is the whitest neighborhood possibly in America ever since the beginning and then Santa Monica and then and I moved Belair and the thing I learned the most in therapy is like once you're able to identify an issue that you have or a behavior that you have that is half the battle because the next stuff is actionable things that you can do to kind of deprogrammed yourself of those emotions and that's pretty much the message that I'm trying to get across you know and you know I've done it in my life. I've done it in my community. Canal gave me great advice about helping you know he's great in the movie schools yeah he's Great and everything I love him. you know he's like why don't you some you can do something actionable because people are always asking me what to do and it's like well. You can start anywhere you can start at your public doc libraries. You can start in your public school systems so many public school systems that need your help that need money for school trips or field trips. They need money for computer programming the next they can't afford. I'm you can help charter schools. You can help all different kinds of ways in your own community so it's not just like Oh. What are you supposed to do. If you have millions of dollars. It's like what reese was to do on a day to day basis. You know learn more befriend people. That aren't like you learn more about different cultures and understand how this all works together so for me. It's been a huge growth experience and a huge learning experience so I hope what people get to take away from. That film is like I hope a that thought provoking and that it makes people think like Oh because you know I I I get so many messages that say well. I'm not a member. You know I'm not wipe. I'm white privilege. I have three jobs and and it's like that's not what it doesn't mean you're going to be wealthy or there won't be obstacles. Yes it's like it's it's the difference between going to a grocery store and being able to meander through a for hours. If you feel like it versus being stared at like your shoplifting I want to ask you to just about the way in which you think comedy may be shifting in you know our culture too because do you think that jokes aside. It is important for us to be calling out comedians. What are the most interesting things in the documentary was the professor who talked about how comedians media help us sort of self criticize and I was just thinking about the fact that you you opened with Kevin Hart and I assume that this was filmed before for his Oscar situation. and I don't know if you feel like comedians what's the best way to deal with something things like that when the public is mad about something that you said and you need to respond to it. I mean going forward. I like what Kevin did because I think it was important because you can't move back. You know what are we going to do. On Earth. Everybody's jokes from two thousand ten years ago or whenever it was all you can do is to know no better and do better to Cobra but you know like you seriously. You have to get better at being yourself and I think that's everybody's you not to use the word journey 'cause I can't stand that word or the bachelor ruin that so many years ago but you know it's really important about just not making the same mistakes twice like now I can I now. I have enough perspective. Have now montour again doing stand up again. I just added a whole bunch of dates I'm not doing jokes about that stuff anymore and it's the easiest thing in the world. You don't have to make fun of People's races and if it's if it's a tricky subject and people's feelings are hurt than we have to take into account why and how and the history behind it and it's really very simple. It's like guys who CEOS phoney anymore. You can't joke about anything you can. You can't just you can't joke about sexually assaulting women or are discriminating against Muslims like sorry pick another topic so that's good challenge. I think for anybody with a fucking brain to work a little bit harder at being funny so you feel the same way in the debate about I guess like jokes about whether or not like Lindsey Graham is gay yeah. That's funny 'cause it's conflicting and it will be always you know I think the evolution of any person myself especially is learning more you know and not reacting in the same way as I would have before and being mature about it and it kind of is a nice space to be in so I'm Mike enjoying mature. I've never been able to say that in my life. You know I I do feel mature. There's footage of you in the opening of this movie where you say you say it's an it's an old stand up routine of yours and say I came here to be a movie star and that actually got me thinking once upon a time. I actually associated with act. I remember you were in a thing called in the motherhood that I thought you were great and I was wondering if you missed acting it off. That feels like a loss life for you in in some way. I don't really feel like an actress. You know or an act horror. I don't feel like that. I mean I do it for fun. I've been in movies and I would still do it like if it was a great role for all but I'm not. That's not my forte really. I think I'm just a communicator. I've learned that through my last book all my books and my stand up tours and now being back on on on tour doing doing stand up by myself on stage something I never thought I'd do. I realized that I'm a storyteller and I'm just sharing my experience with everybody and hoping you know to you kind of move people and inspire them. I mean that's what is really. The best thing is to be able to inspire people and yeah so I'm not really an actor. I just never have been when you were making the documentary. was there any people that you reached out to. Who maybe you were surprised. Who didn't want to be on it? I'm not talking about like conservatives in like Orange County right like well known people who comedians you might have wanted in it alongside Kevin Hart and like tiffany show now. I just asked if some people I knew to be in it like you know friends of mine. I there was no one famous that I asked to be. I didn't want I want a ton of famous people in it because that's not what the point is but I wanted their perspective active about because we all came up together you know doing stand up and they were on my they were on my show. Chelsea lately years ago and we so I know them. Both so I just kinda wanted to see what their thoughts lots were about me performing because I used to always perform in this comedy club that was considered a black comedy club mixed nuts on Pico and and you know I was always like the only white person and for a long time so yeah you know. It was just all kind of like you to think about those moments while you're going through them would be more advantageous than having to you. Revisit them. Ten fifteen twenty years later. I also think a specific part of your also journey is that you really really came to extreme prominence via your books in a way that I feel like most comedians don't and I also I can tell that you really wrote them for example and are like they're from your your experience do you do you feel like you're running away from books and now don't like this kind of documentary nature is taking over that part of your life or do you feel like you'll always write books too. Now I mean I just had a book come out in May and it was number one on the New York Times. I hate to say that about myself but I know I just have to have to because you didn't know that book was has called life will be the death of me and it was all about my self discovery and self awareness and learning how to be calm and not reactive and trump got elected. I fucking went batch it. I was going into airport lounges into the Fox News Lounge looking for people to fuck and scream at within the veins throbbing Outta my net going how could you vote for this motherfucker and it became unmanageable like I was too angry and I knew I wasn't going to be able to get anything done for the midterms in that state and I wanted to cross the country and I wanted to unfold and I wanted to talk talk to people get them registered and I partnered with Emily's list to get progressive women elected and so that we could get women and people of Color to match what this country looks. It's like in government and we made it because so many people dropped everything and did just that we did make so much progress and so hopefully we can keep that going until the next election. Are there any people sort of in the race right now. You're really excited about I would live Elizabeth Warren and Stacey Abrams to tie the knot or yeah right. That's undeniable. I just discovered on the Internet yesterday to that Stacey Aram's a huge buffy the vampire slayer fan. Oh Oh wow I did not know and she talked about it like so eloquently and compared it to how we need to find other people to find their potential in politics. Uh Kiki on a serious level yeah congrats congrats to Sarah Michelle Gellar. I'm so glad you're a Elizabeth Turin founded. I just find her. Continuing the day I posted on Instagram that I was leaving my Netflix show. She actually called me on the phone and was like wow she goes because I was like. I'm so upset by the situation. I want to do everything I can for the midterms and she called me and was like I'm so impressed by what you did. I can't believe that you're going to do this. Please let me know how could help you in any way. A. And I've interviewed her. I've read her book. She is the one candidate I believe that has the most coherent plan and policy and I and she ak she's not out for herself. You Know Connell is a little too slick for me a little too political. I've seen I've seen her in situations where I wasn't that. You know I didn't like what I aw. I love Beto but what what's going to happen with that Joe Biden. It should shut the fuck up already. I mean honestly every time he fucking nightmare. It's like shut op string sentence together. I mean we already have a baboon doing that on the other side now now that you've done this documentary. You're back on the road again. what do you think is next for you well. I am I have my yeah. This documenta comes out this Friday right. NFL then I'm GonNa Start my touring Australia. I'm doing a stand up tour but I'm doing twenty cities so and I'm adding more date so if your city is sold out I'm coming to cities like Oklahoma. Must City Kansas City Milwaukee and if your date is sold out we will be adding a couple of extra shows the country that needs to see your documentary yea yeah oh so then I'll probably stand up special when I'm done with this tour when I feel ready also and then I think you know universal just bought the rights rights to my book my last book and I think develop that to star in that I would act in that if play myself I'm into that and then I'll do more documentaries or Docu you series. Maybe I'll do one where I take a bunch of drugs like new drugs that are coming out like ketamine or they're doing all these kind of studies in you know research studies for Mushrooms uh-huh and acid and MD and I'm really interested in all that stuff so I would love to get into one of those studies and film that I recommend them all at once. Make sure you got eight ball yeah. I'm a tank so much experience with drugs and alcohol that you could probably put anything in my system and I would still be able to get home. Oh and I'm coming out with my own cannabis line just in time for the holidays. It's just such a helpful tool in life for me. It's become you know I used it. I is to sleep then to you know wake up and then like Oh. This is so much better than alcohol like my whole. Life is different because of cannabis in particular you know I'm very interested in black women having a lot of room in that space to Spritz particularly since you know is easy for white people to partner with cannabis industries and black people are famously in prison for those things you sort of barred from entering that that industry is that right well. That's good to know. Do you know black women that want the Anat space. Yes I know a woman. Her name is Mary prior and she created Kanter can't occlusive which was created to facilitate fair representation of minorities in cannabis consumers and I could probably connect you to connect us. That would be a good partnership possibly down. The line is also secretly from me by the way I I go to pat on on a to not work but it's it's more of an interest. It's like an entry level branding so that I can tell women like here this helps this will help if you have anxiety if you're dealing with this. 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This is not representative culture at all. You would never find any other examples that are in a statement to the Hollywood reporter. Del emphasized that she felt obliged to reject the deal on behalf of other writers of color and the initial the report written by Rebecca Son who I adore cites unnamed sources who said Peter stood to make eight hundred thousand to one million from the two movies compared to the one hundred and ten thousand plus that Adele was offered and just to be clear. Both these people worked on the previous previous movie. Yes so apparently the initial negotiations with Warner Brothers were made last fall into early twenty nineteen and Adele actually rejected a deal to split her Co.. Kerr writers fee with him hoping to make something close to that fee herself so it is worth know that when Peter found out about he was like just split the money with me and it's also worth noting that I'm glad she rejected it. Yes she should have rejected it because she should have been paid that same amount getting paid that much less than him. I mean the message of that is they. Clearly didn't even care to have involved with production. I almost wonder in a way I'm I'm more bitter that she's not a part of it because it feels. I was like that's what they wanted. you know if they're going to pay him that much more and you know feel kosher about it right at it brings into mind the idea the people who were hired to add diversity to add some flavor as it were she was added after he had done a couple of drafts of the film already and that's when I believe John Shoe who's been on the POD and who also released a statement yesterday in defense of her are the smallest font imaginable. It did her any judge. It was very painful to read John next time just used a fucking notes APP like everybody. Everybody else does with multiple slides. It's a common thing though sort of adding somewhat in for diversity purposes you know it's like we already already have the film that we want but now here's someone who can make it authentically Asian or at least have the appearance appearance of that so that the Internet can be like. Oh Wow Chris Asia female Asian writer involved basin males erector cool. Let's let's go yeah right right right. it also speaks to me. It feels like they they just don't think there needed to be in Asian writer behind it which is so crazy easy because I feel like what I cherish about the movie beyond you know the sort of the Zany plot is is the amount of detail in it not just within the families like physical details things. I would have never thought thought about another movie. She was involved in interview with John. Shoe for I I believe vulture to were they broke down the Mahjong scene in that film which is the best thing in the movie. It's deeply empowering. It is Gatorade as the scene shell yo every facial expression and her defeat at the end is really I will also point out that that another element of the story is the pay disparity can also partly be attributed to where Peter and Adult do most host of their work out either wrote the proposal. I'm GonNa can I say something about the proposal that really gave Sandra bullock a serious boost at a at at a time in her career. That's about two thousand eight right and also that's where the betty white renaissance happened the movies note that good. I don't like the proposal that much I will say that I could undeniable. I will say I have not seen the proposal since it came out which probably speaks too high felt about it in retrospect right because I love wrong com- terms if I really enjoyed the proposal. I'd probably re-watch it all the time. like I can quote twenty. Seven trust is more than I can grow up the proposal. That's a syndrome you have a problem. I mean don't you. WanNa dance danced with James Marsden the jets but I- Judy greer top-five Judy greer and Adele all her credits are all television and then we all hate I know right and so that is sort of the idea yeah that TV writers are Lesser Than Film Writers. You know it's it's a thing that when ATV riders was a jump into family. It's like they will be offered less because it oh you were just writing TV right. I do you know how to write a film. Well part of the statement. The studio release also said something like well. It's just standard based on blink blink. What about this situation strikes. US Standard Right. She held crazy rich Asians. She has been a writer co executive producer on lethal weapon rain star-crossed private practice missing life unexpected life on Mars one one tree hill fucking pepper Danette variety even wrote on Las Vegas fucking Fox's John Del okay. It's just a career going back to two thousand and two writing in this industry also my the question is did they just think she would never find out about the pay disparity yeah. That's really weird right because it's it's also her agents. People would have known you know ah her lawyer would have down and it really just is very disappointing on a lot especially since I mean who isn't looking forward to that sequel intern I mean you can enjoy it on every level if you are deeply invested in the characters or you just want something to Czanka with a glass of red wine on a plane. It's perfect you know what I mean. I can't imagine anybody being like I wouldn't watch the sequel to that now. It's stained She told the Hollywood reporter that her voice as a writer like many other women writers of colors is also seen as has quote unquote soy sauce and she said Pete has been nothing but incredibly gracious but what I make shouldn't be dependent on the generosity of the White Guy Writer. If I couldn't get pay hey equity after crazy rich Asians. I can't imagine what it would be like for anyone else. Given that the standard for how much you're worth is having established quotes from previous movies which women are caller would never have I've been hired for. There's no realistic way to achieve true equity that way and I mean that sort of reminds me a bit of Chelsea's documentary right the black people were interviewed you in it specifically talking about the fact that there was systematic oppression redlining housing issues in pay disparity for black people in America and you can't just sort of fix that with some laws that were signs that say that everyone's supposed to be equal right right and you can't really fix a system in Hollywood that says this amount of experience gets you this million for a movie right eight win historically only been white men who've been given that experience early then it means that it's only Whiteman. We're going to keep making that money and everyone else is trying to play catch up. Yeah also talk about the amount of money itself something around one hundred ten thousand dollars. If you write a basic cable TV series for one season and you're a staff writer the lowest position I mean I think you're still making somewhere around seventy five eighty thousand dollars a sequel to a gigantic blockbuster sister and she's making that little money is not not just how much she made in comparison to him. That's gross. It's the actual amount itself. That makes no sense. Yes for a movie that is going to make shit ton of money yeah and that is also what she was going to be paid for. Both movies both movies I I. I don't understand it from any angle. I'm sorry I wish I could be more authoritative on it. It is so obviously gross and it is what it is. You're there's no x-factor. We're not computing. It is so bad yeah it's depressing story but I think Rebecca was he tweeted out talked about how she's upset that it happened but glad that she was able to the report this story because it is a way for us to have this conversation and maybe other studios now will be more reticent of this. I mean it's sort of reminds me of that. Insane situation where Octavia Spencer discovered she was making so much less than Jessica chastain movie. Jessica chastain had to step up herself and make it happen yeah it had to step out of her and then she went made molly's alleys game with Aaron Sorkin which we all lost Molly's game. Everyone lost even molly one one good scene. I always say about that movie. It should have been a TV show but I didn't like the movie itself so maybe it shouldn't have been a TV show or anything I think it would've been fun as a TV show because the best part of a movie was her running the illegal game right if she was doing that for nine episodes then it's like okay we'll go to jail right. It also has maybe one of the worst things. I've ever seen in the movie. Oh wait the ice skating scene with Kavakaz ice skating scene. We're her where she has run away. Her father is looking for her magically finds her at the ice skating rink and he's he doesn't live in New York and they're at Rockefeller Plaza Yeah and then they have that speech on the park bench horrible about like her skiing past yeah and then he what chases her her on the ice for a long time guys. It sounds like I'm describing Telenovela or something. I was like you wrote this. West Wing wrote this right right right. Dro- zero go by an eight gram and get something better yeah. This is a post newsroom. Sirkin yes but anyway it reminds me of that situation where we started talking about inclusion riders and actresses of Color and actors of color making making the same as their counterpart right right right so maybe it's something that will change but you know it's. It seems easier to change things involving saving money somewhat in Hollywood when you make a big fuss about it as opposed to you know hiring and other another thing. Oh yeah unimportant things like that yeah I mean John. Chew basically said as much in his statement but in this sounds so trite but I actually do think this is a progressive grasset moment. Yeah I do think there's no going back element to how disgusting this looks and how bad the studio looks. Can we also talk about the fact I love John. had a great time and he was on the show right. He named his son Heights to H. E. T. S. yes jazz because he's directing the in the heights movie we his son is named heights. Yes that might not even be among the words in that title what I would name my in a little cuter virtue heights chair. Wow I mean gwyneth jumped out yeah yeah well. The AH Ashley Simpson jumped out Bronx Moakley. I believe that we're comes from Sanskrit affect your Ashley. I Simpson the fact that moberly is his middle name right and not even the first one Bronx Moseley. Mike also Pete Wentz isn't he from is he from Chicago. Yes once from women yeah. That's what I thought of will met rich Liz fair country. That's like that's among the richest places at Bronx. You need to be directly related to. I believe Jaylo in order to call yourself do Pete Wentz and fall out boy. I right right not my brand in particular in the year of two thousand six. What am I listening to The answer is the Veronica's. Okay yeah all right. I think I've told you this before but leaving along with my favorite Veronica saw it is a good one also leave me alone also a very underrated who's ready for this Natalie Imbruglia song offer first album but we're not supposed to say yeah but a very good Michael Jackson. Oh well you know what it is actually an amazing video. Yes what he's on the roller coaster and it's like going going through all the tabloid headlines and stuff perfect video. You know what let's just say it. I believe Michael. His Ghost told me yesterday yesterday inspirational Dave Chapelle. Can you imagine if after all we talked about this episode episode. I was like fuck it Michael Jackson. I'm saying it now stormed out yeah and I would win so go ahead and do it get out of. They are well. That's our topic. I did it yeah. You're I forgot what we were talking about. In the first place we'll be right back with keep it and we're back with keep it our favorite segment of the still the only segment with the name. We have got to name these other other things. We have intro true thrilling. I can't wait for Info. I feel like we've had other random segment in the past. Ask we should bring some back yeah. We just forget them. Is The problem remember when we stall okay. Stop from love at first star is born. We should do that a good episode for us to that again. Yeah find a trailer and just do it again because he doesn't do movie trailers he always does it was Laura Ingraham interview. I know also he ain't listening to US steel. What we want yeah my my. I keep it because Oh you're going. I I feel like we enjoy. I feel like we have a few okay. Keep it to this president of ours. tweeting celebrities like Chrissy Teigen John Legend Deborah thing when we have a white cloth shortage. I know I know the irresponsibility you something be the presidential also how is it possible that we have a white cloth shortage. They strike me as readily available ingredients. They don't have them in many the of the stores that had been to run away and I don't know if they never had them at like pavilions but I haven't found any well. I'll tell you what I find disturbing yeah about. Why Claw is straight men getting to drink it because a spiked seltzer just something about it speaks to gay men. It speaks two women. It's like smoking. Only gay men and women should be able to do. It looks cool when we do it. It's oppressive. When a straight man does it right. It's weird thinking of straight eight men ever drinking Zima or clearly Canadian. No exactly that's also for us. Yeah I will say that another reason. Jon favreau will never be on this show. He prefers truly he prefers that petrified Capri Sun that they call truly. I was in Chicago. Go ahead a sip of truly. I truly feel allergic to most things now. After having said that it was radioactive Marie Curie felt like she had kicked me and you know that feeling when I think of radioactive I think of the reorder signal. Oh of course who doesn't doesn't here's the thing about truth is that the one that zero calories and then innocent and then Whitelaw is one hundred calories or something like that. Take the head go for one hundred calories. You're enjoying your night. Ruby grapefruit at all truly is absolutely disgusting. I earthquake. Law Has the better flavors if I had to rank them yeah you're also again is better than truly. I do enjoy the shape of the can though the Danish that I can hold like this the way I would hold. You know a sub man by his neck yeah. That's what I want all right well. What are we get teaser Sir Kiefer so we get out of here. Mikey this will be a little bit of a repeat for me. I feel like once a year. I'm allowed to rant against the rock and Roll Hall of fame which I hate. This is a segment within a segment right right. Louis Pro Lewis Inefficiency. I it's way brings up the rock and Roll Hall of fame again. Mike keep it is to the fact that Tina Turner is still not in the rock and Roll Hall of fame as a solo artist. She is only in there with somebody named Ike Turner. I know nothing about nothing credits. He is dead famously dead. I know that about him best thing he ever did. Keep going with that more death. Yes yes Turner could die again right read. I enjoy it. How can you be debtor do that for us. Dead and loving yes yes. I'LL LA DRACULA my concern is that there is an amazing profile. The fact that Tina Turner is retired and doing it very well. She lives the way you ever read a John Grisham Book and he doesn't know how to tie it up so the protagonist just flies to an island and lives happily ever after she's doing that. She's like Darby and the Pelican brief and so afterwards naturally I went and looked through her. What's up Tina Turner her credits her history. She is still not in the rock and Roll Hall of fame as a Solo artist and she is the definitive female rock and roll performer. It is bizarre to me how few women one still aren't in the rock and Roll Hall of fame movies. Are we talking about carly. Simon Not in the rock and Roll Hall of fame and James Taylor got in like thirty years ago. What's the math on that. What did James Taylor Carly Simon did not. I want not now. Also there's just the fact that at this point I get it up proud Mary but multiple Tina Turner songs are better than proud Mary up your to God's ears. Every single she's made veteran. Good host is better than the songs he did with him and also private dancer which was her breakout solo album. Just general one of the great eighties albums period and also talk to Smith. We feel so slinky right it kind of outside as shoddy which I never thought I would say but it's also that album to me is such a great acting performance. You really feel like you know her. After she's just performing songs written by other people people it really is acting certain extent so it kills me that she's not in you know who else is in as a solo artist. Carol fucking king the definitive. A songwriter turned superstar. We have a Broadway musical about her but she's not in the rock and Roll Hall of fame. It kills me how few women get in when they're supposed to get N. Even Joni Mitchell who got into the mid nineties was a few years late. Perhaps the definitive folk singer songwriter of all time you know right up there with a Bob Dylan et Cetera Cetera Pete seeger whatever only Madonna and Janice Joplin have gotten in as women solo artist on their first year of eligibility. Well you know what I I'm pretty sure that the aluminum body will get beyond say okay sure so we've got the early win is the eligibility by the way you have to. It has to be twenty five years after your first solo album okay so Madonna got in two thousand and eight her first solo album was nineteen eighty-three you know but for instance sense still waiting for Bjork maybe the definitive nineties two thousand artists period to get into the rock and Roll Hall of fame. You know for example Janet Jackson the only got in somewhat recently as you Janet Jackson started recording solo stuff at the beginning of the eighties it just feels at the rock and Roll Hall of fame exists to solidify solidify the idea that rock and roll is a definitive mail art form that we like it when it comes for men that we remember it best when it came from men and that women get in I think one fifth of the time as men literally there's never been a year where more women got into the rock and Roll Hall of fame as men as you know there are two main genders. Male and female male keeps winning five times to one in the rock music. It was linen so it continues tends to be. I can't wait to see that Linda Ronstadt documentary that just came out the sound of my voice. I'm also very glad my boys are in the hall of fame by the way they're not women but doc hall notes how sure they have feminine energy calls hair alone. Oh God bless we were talking about yacht rock recently. They're the definitive Senate of yacht rockers but I'm so obsessed recently with what a fool believes by Doobie brothers. Does that sound do anything for you. I loved the Doobie brothers Michael McDonald his voice goes beyond donned male beauty and enters a realm of almost dog like symphonic sound Michael. McDonald is God yeah anyway that song is both really Dorky and also sacks. I can't explain it explain why the song is so good to me weirdly enough. I feel like the only time white men were sexy was eighties. You think so yeah you're not a BG's a hair apologised. You know I love Andy. Give more than the beaches sh he was deeply hot and his song shadow dancing and his albums. We're largely out in the eighties. That's true that's true yeah anyway. So I'm right. finally my last keep it going back to you. We don't even get into it fully because I feel like we've talked about how much Kevin Hart Sucks Yeah but I really hate it. Ex being subjected to his his idiocy how yeah in in the shot that as we all show which supposedly has black men having hard conversations nations and I think it really puts a lot of onus maybe too much pomp and circumstance on the idea that the best conversations are happening in the barber shop. I hear a lot of conspiracy theories as a kid and and a lot of things like what Kevin Hart and Sarah you know. It's like asking Nas. Why is it so important that he came out as gay? I mean and that's dumb. He also to me. He sounded like he was trying to say the progressive thing like it doesn't matter if you're gay we're all just people yeah which is of course not progressive and able to be as Guile ously yourself as possible which means announcing. You're gay every second if you want to. The Secret Password today is guy. Oh Yeah I do say that a lot of it was so revealing seeing Kevin show up in Chelsea's documentary where he's talking and about race and then knowing that he doesn't get how that works when it comes to Black Queer people as we talked about last week when Dave Chapelle like it completely goes over his head and the fact that he was so uncomfortable when she made a joke about him. Oh right right right like has anyone ever died inside if you and he was like what and he seemed to be fuming about that joke still while Chelsea and Tiffany haddish were joking working about it and high fiving later well to have had an uncomfortable confrontation with Kevin Hart about homophobia so I relate anyway away. That's our show yeah. I think we did it. I love it. We do this once a year apart. Do Yeah yeah a pass. Obey by the way is that season of dancing with the stars happening as Kerama up and dancing it a he's in rehearsal in rehearsal. He released a instagram video where he said Dat as he stepped into rehearsal he was thinking about. I don't know what God put him on the Earth for his purpose and spreading positively and you know won't let the haters get him down and Tom. Brady runs looking his fingers and it's like just another sucker. I hope he loses the Spicer. Oh Mike Right. That's possible this could actually it happened. Sean Spicer will lose really quickly. I'm not worried about that but anyway show get Shabunda on next season dancing with the stars. I miss her. Thank you for joining us. We'll see you next week. Keep it as a product of crooked media. Carolina Reston is our producer. Our editor is Sarah Barrett and Kyle Seguin is our sound engineer thanks to our digital team logic and not a name. Melconian for filming and editing video content aww every week.

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